[SEL] OT Another case of web site rip-off

[Steve Gray]

Hi Arnie -

   My thoughts exactly. As it turns out, though I did (cautiously) give 
them the go-ahead to use my stuff, they decided it better to pull 
everything down and to start over with a clean slate. After their reply 
to my original response, they have since emailed me again after 
obviously poring over my website. I kind of get the impression it 
surprised them. What is interesting is what I hear from my "informant" 
buddy who also owns an engine business, that these Andree people have 
never owned or even started a Lister/Listeroid. They allegedly have a 
very strong habit of "expanding" the truth about individual sales, in 
some cases those not even being brokered by their own firm. As a final 
note, both he and the wife have been permanently booted from Ebay for 
their past dealings. Sounds like a real Jeckle and Hyde syndrome to me. 
I think it's probably better to hold off putting any links to their site 
on my links page. ;-)

TTYL

-Steve

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Steve Gray
Member EDGE & TA, Br. 13, 27 & 49
Sonora, California USA
e-mail:   segray at mlode.com
Home page:   http://www.oldengineshed.com


Arnie Fero wrote:

>Hi Steve,
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>>You silver tongued devil, you! ;-) I just received this from the culprits:
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>heh-heh-heh.  I have been referred to as a cunning linguist a time or two.
>8-))
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>My feeling would be the same as Dolly's.  If someone asked if they could
>use my engine pics on their page with attribution, I'd say "Fine, have at
>it."  These folks do sell Caste Iron Currey Listers which are, in some
>cases, an "entry engine" into the hobby.  So, on the one hand, the
>pics of your beautiful restorations may help them sell engines.  On the
>other hand, those same pics, and the others on your website, and the links
>to other websites with engines may lead someone deep into our hobby when
>they didn't know that it even existed.
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>I think these guys responded appropriately and quickly to the negative
>feedback they received.  They took down the pics, they contacted you and
>apologized, and they've asked your permission to use your pics with
>attribution.  I'd call that a win all around.  The only other thing they
>could do would be to offer one of their Caste Iron Currey Listers as a
>donation to the SEL Charity Auction.  Maybe set it up as a running
>exhibit at Portland.  Couldn't hurt to mention it.  They would
>probably sell quite a few as a result.  8-))  And they probably don't even
>know that Portland exists.
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>My vote is to contact them and give permission to use your pics with
>attribution and a link to your website.  I think they should also put in a
>link to Peter Forbes' Lister diesel info.
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>See ya,  Arnie
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>Arnie Fero
>Pittsburgh, PA
>fero_ah at city-net.com
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