[SEL] Re: Secure Pictures and Manuals

[lightningrod]

Wow! That "Ripped" JPEG is revealing. The guy in front of the engine 
really looks as if he's "Ripped"! What a buzz!Hahaha


Jeff Allen wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I cleaned this up a bit, but here are a couple examples. First one is 
> text on a picture.
>
> http://frapa.us/Genny3.jpg
>
> It that doesn't work, this will do the trick. :-)
>
> http://frapa.us/Ripped.jpg
>
> It's not hard to do, and offers about the best protection we can have. 
> Go for it and remove what I have added. Not an easy task.
>
> Jeff
>
> Bill Dickerson wrote:
>
>> Jeff is right. I have a whole collection of password hacking 
>> applications,
>> ways to bypass Microsoft office and Windows installation protection 
>> schemes,
>> as well as for several other applications, abilities to copy DVDs and 
>> CDs,
>> etc. Not that I actually do, but it's my hobby to see what I can hack 
>> or get
>> into.
>> It's also part of my job to know what can be done and how easily. I'm 
>> on a
>> security team at work.
>> Part of the way to keep ahead in security is to know the foe - you 
>> have to
>> play devil's advocate.
>>
>> PDFs are protected only when the displaying application agrees to not 
>> let
>> you print, save etc - what if you had a viewer that simply ignored 
>> that plea
>> inside the PDF? Well, such apps are free for the downloading, meaning 
>> I can
>> display and print any PDF - even with the printing disabled.
>> There are also hacking apps that break passwords in PDFs - I have a 
>> couple
>> of those as well.
>>
>> I'm with Jeff and Jerry.............
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Allen
>> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 7:33 PM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Re: Secure Pictures and Manuals
>>
>> Peter,
>>
>> I hate to say it, but I think you are destined to failure on this. I 
>> can rip
>> a dual layer 7.5 Gig commercial movie, and burn it to my single layer 
>> DVD.
>> In the process I strip all copy protection and region codes. The 
>> program I use is free. If I can beat that copy protection, I doubt we
>> will ever come up with anything that will prevent the dishonest from 
>> using
>> our data as they wish.
>>
>> Jerry probably has the best solution.
>>
>>  
>>
>>> What I plan on doing is to add the words "Downloaded free from 
>>> www.oldengine.org - not for resale" on to every page as well as 
>>> superimposing it onto all illustrations (of course, in such a way 
>>> that it does not cover any important part of the illustration).
>>>
>>>   
>>
>> It won't prevent copies, but will make them work for their money. Most
>> thiefs are lazy, so this should work to some extent. I'll link to an 
>> example
>> in a bit, and you guys can play with cleanup.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>> Listerdiesel wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 15:44:18 -0700, Jeff Allen 
>>> <transteck at earthlink.net>
>>>   
>>
>> wrote:
>>  
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>> Peter,
>>>>
>>>> I don't think you can prevent a screen capture. It would take on 
>>>> helluva code writer to do it, and if it was done for a 
>>>> PC..............
>>>>
>>>> I would switch to the Mac and snag it.
>>>>
>>>> I have just decided I will share information that I have. I really 
>>>> don't care if people download it for their own use. As I said the 
>>>> last time this came up, if I see my stuff on e-bay I do have an 
>>>> option. Point the bidders to the free version on my web pages. That 
>>>> should kill the auction and provide me with some entertainment. :-))
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Allen
>>>>  
>>>>     
>>>
>>> Hi Jeff:
>>>
>>> I am all for people downloading for their OWN use, it's those that 
>>> go on from there and start to market the stuff that I am after 
>>> stopping.
>>>
>>> We have something like 10,000 pages of stuff here including the old 
>>> UK Patents going back to the 1800's that I would like to put up 
>>> online, but as soon as the first pages became available they were 
>>> pirated almost within hours of appearing, and that was without me 
>>> even mentioning the fact that they were there!
>>>
>>> I know that Paul Evans tried password protecting the access, but 
>>> that becomes an administrative nightmare and takes up time, so I 
>>> think he dropped it eventually.
>>>
>>> I don't want to get into a commercial vending operation, this is 
>>> supposed to be a hobby, I am just trying to find a way that works 
>>> for us all.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>
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