[SEL] Re: Secure Pictures and Manuals

[Jeff Allen]

Hi all,

I cleaned this up a bit, but here are a couple examples. First one is 
text on a picture.

http://frapa.us/Genny3.jpg

It that doesn't work, this will do the trick. :-)

http://frapa.us/Ripped.jpg

It's not hard to do, and offers about the best protection we can have. 
Go for it and remove what I have added. Not an easy task.

Jeff

Bill Dickerson wrote:

>Jeff is right. I have a whole collection of password hacking applications,
>ways to bypass Microsoft office and Windows installation protection schemes,
>as well as for several other applications, abilities to copy DVDs and CDs,
>etc. Not that I actually do, but it's my hobby to see what I can hack or get
>into.
>It's also part of my job to know what can be done and how easily. I'm on a
>security team at work.
>Part of the way to keep ahead in security is to know the foe - you have to
>play devil's advocate.
>
>PDFs are protected only when the displaying application agrees to not let
>you print, save etc - what if you had a viewer that simply ignored that plea
>inside the PDF? Well, such apps are free for the downloading, meaning I can
>display and print any PDF - even with the printing disabled.
>There are also hacking apps that break passwords in PDFs - I have a couple
>of those as well.
>
>I'm with Jeff and Jerry.............
>
>Bill
> 
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Allen
>Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 7:33 PM
>To: The SEL email discussion list
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Re: Secure Pictures and Manuals
>
>Peter,
>
>I hate to say it, but I think you are destined to failure on this. I can rip
>a dual layer 7.5 Gig commercial movie, and burn it to my single layer DVD.
>In the process I strip all copy protection and region codes. 
>The program I use is free. If I can beat that copy protection, I doubt we
>will ever come up with anything that will prevent the dishonest from using
>our data as they wish.
>
>Jerry probably has the best solution.
>
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>
>>What I plan on doing is to add the words "Downloaded free from 
>>www.oldengine.org - not for resale" on to every page as well as 
>>superimposing it onto all illustrations (of course, in such a way that 
>>it does not cover any important part of the illustration).
>>
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>It won't prevent copies, but will make them work for their money. Most
>thiefs are lazy, so this should work to some extent. I'll link to an example
>in a bit, and you guys can play with cleanup.
>
>Jeff
>
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>Listerdiesel wrote:
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>>On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 15:44:18 -0700, Jeff Allen <transteck at earthlink.net>
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>wrote:
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>>>Peter,
>>>
>>>I don't think you can prevent a screen capture. It would take on 
>>>helluva code writer to do it, and if it was done for a PC..............
>>>
>>>I would switch to the Mac and snag it.
>>>
>>>I have just decided I will share information that I have. I really 
>>>don't care if people download it for their own use. As I said the last 
>>>time this came up, if I see my stuff on e-bay I do have an option. 
>>>Point the bidders to the free version on my web pages. That should 
>>>kill the auction and provide me with some entertainment. :-))
>>>
>>>Jeff Allen
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Hi Jeff:
>>
>>I am all for people downloading for their OWN use, it's those that go 
>>on from there and start to market the stuff that I am after stopping.
>>
>>We have something like 10,000 pages of stuff here including the old UK 
>>Patents going back to the 1800's that I would like to put up online, 
>>but as soon as the first pages became available they were pirated 
>>almost within hours of appearing, and that was without me even 
>>mentioning the fact that they were there!
>>
>>I know that Paul Evans tried password protecting the access, but that 
>>becomes an administrative nightmare and takes up time, so I think he 
>>dropped it eventually.
>>
>>I don't want to get into a commercial vending operation, this is 
>>supposed to be a hobby, I am just trying to find a way that works for 
>>us all.
>>
>>Peter
>> 
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