[SEL] Re: Literature on Old Engine - Ethics Question

Jeff Allen transteck at earthlink.net
Sat Feb 26 12:51:05 PST 2005


Hi Arnie,

Where do we draw the line? Should I pull the Maytag manual? How about 
the Fairbanks Z manual? Reprints of both are sold on E-bay. Will some 
child go without dinner tonight because I am giving away the public 
domain information that they sell?

I won't buy a reprint and put it online. I don't think that is ethical 
because I didn't do the work. I will buy original material and put it 
online if it is public domain. I have as much right to use it as anyone. 
I made a choice to share whatever information I can as opposed to trying 
to sell it.

I did remove the links on the index page, but only because they are dead 
links now.

Jeff Allen

PS. What about the Maytag restoration? Someone is now selling a book on 
E-bay covering that.

Arnie Fero wrote:

>Hi Folks,
>
>I've got a problem with two of the items that are listed in this handy
>dandy collection of literature.
>
>Specifically, the Bessemer Oilfield Engine manual and the Wico EK manual.
>In my opinion we have no business putting those on the web or keeping
>them there.
>http://www.oldengine.org/docs/Bessemer_Ox_OM.pdf
>http://www.oldengine.org/docs/Wico_EK_OM.pdf
>
>The reason that I strongly object is that these are items that Ed Deis
>sells at Hit & Miss Enterprises.  Notice the "L03" and the "L43" in the
>upper right hand corner of the cover pages?  Those are Ed's "Catalog
>Numbers."  http://www.hitnmiss.com/22.htm
>He lists L03 for sale for $15 and L43 for $3.
>
>Do we REALLY need to rip someone off who provides so many parts and so
>much literature to the hobby?  Come on, if you want a copy of those
>manuals, send Hit & Miss $15 or $3.  If you're in this hobby to any
>extent, even $15 isn't gonna break the bank.  Hell, I spill beer worth
>more than that on a typical engine show weekend!
>
>How about it folks?  Take those off the web.  Let's not cut the hobby
>suppliers who do so much for us.  In fact, why not add a link to Hit &
>Miss's Literature page and push some business Ed's way?
>
>See ya,  Arnie
>
>PS - PLEASE don't go into a long song & dance about where the scans came
>from or how long they've been on the web.  Frankly, I don't care.  I think
>keeping them on the web now is the wrong thing to do.
>
>Arnie Fero
>Pittsburgh, PA
>fero_ah at city-net.com
>
>On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Listerdiesel wrote:
>
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>>OK, I have rewritten the menu page for the document section to reflect
>>the overall pictorial changes that we made to the Oldengine site a few
>>years ago. The direct URL for the documents section is :
>>
>>http://www.oldengine.org/docs/Docs.htm
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