[SEL] NHMA stuff my thoughts

[R & M Ingold]

Ok Adam. Lets come to the bottom line.
As an exhibitor, am I, or am I not, a capable person?
If I am, allow me the right to show my stuff  as I choose. This includes 
allowing people in the engine area under my 'control'
If I am not, then kick me off the site.
Insurance doesnt come in to it.
I still want to see the number of claims  for the public in the compounds 
under the guidance of exhibitors.
Reg & Marg Ingold.
Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adam Cottrill" <adamcottrill at bigpond.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:43 PM
Subject: [SEL] NHMA stuff my thoughts


> Hi Jeff,
>           thanks again for taking the time to write. I am the first to 
> admit the guidelines are perfect but I think you miss my point........ 
> unfortunately we need insurance "Just in case" this is not limited to 
> engine rallys or shows it also applys to cars and house and I said 
> previously and to get these policys we need to do certain things.
>
> "The show was the 52nd annual show and they have a good safety record.
> Young teens drive in the tractor pull and the tractor parade. Always
> with supervision and training."
>
> This is fantastic!! but would it be fair to say that because of the 
> "supervision and training" the 52nd annual show has had a good safety 
> record....... Now this is where it gets sticky and im my opinion worse 
> than the NHMA Guidelines now you have to find a "competant person" to not 
> only train but operate the equipment and I would suspect there would be 
> guidelines pray tell how these are different in context to the NHMA 
> guidelines. In effect a risk management policy!!!
>
>
> I have kept cattle in lesser fencing than you have for an engine show.
> It's insane. I watched the tug of war with the steam tractor and the
> children. They lost three times and all fell down. No harm except for a
> skinned knee or two. Right back up to give it another go. "Papa, we
> finally won" and that's what it's all about. Family friendly, kid
> friendly, and people friendly should be the goal.
>
> Again this is fantastic, I would love to do this at our rally, but how do 
> we stop "oppertunists" those that "Sue" for a skinned knee or two from 
> financially breaking our hobby???
>
> Don't fence me in!!......... I think you are more fenced in than you know
>
> And Reg we have spoken on this many times and forged a good realationship 
> and a huge amount of respect and friendship from it, and you recall I 
> agreed with your thoughts on how it should be. And as I think I suggested 
> to you the reasons for what you mentioned happened in your the club, they 
> where "personal" and not the NHMA ringing up and saying "Reg Ingold is a 
> idiot can him" (not that they would or could do this anyway) sadly the 
> NHMA was used as a lever, means or motivation to achieve someone elses 
> personal goal..... to have you removed from the club.
>
> And this comes back to what one of the other guys said about the 
> personalitys of others!!!
>
> Kind Regards,
>                      Adam
>
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