[SEL] NHMA stuff my thoughts

[Ron Page]

If the people are under your control then I would not expect an accident let
alone a claim.  As you say you are a capable man.  And therefore would be
responsible enough to ensure nothing happened and care for your equipment at
same time.

Ron


----- Original Message -----
From: "R & M Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] NHMA stuff my thoughts


> Ok Adam. Lets come to the bottom line.
> As an exhibitor, am I, or am I not, a capable person?
> If I am, allow me the right to show my stuff  as I choose. This includes
> allowing people in the engine area under my 'control'
> If I am not, then kick me off the site.
> Insurance doesnt come in to it.
> I still want to see the number of claims  for the public in the compounds
> under the guidance of exhibitors.
> Reg & Marg Ingold.
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Cottrill" <adamcottrill at bigpond.com>
> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:43 PM
> Subject: [SEL] NHMA stuff my thoughts
>
>
> > Hi Jeff,
> >           thanks again for taking the time to write. I am the first to
> > admit the guidelines are perfect but I think you miss my point........
> > unfortunately we need insurance "Just in case" this is not limited to
> > engine rallys or shows it also applys to cars and house and I said
> > previously and to get these policys we need to do certain things.
> >
> > "The show was the 52nd annual show and they have a good safety record.
> > Young teens drive in the tractor pull and the tractor parade. Always
> > with supervision and training."
> >
> > This is fantastic!! but would it be fair to say that because of the
> > "supervision and training" the 52nd annual show has had a good safety
> > record....... Now this is where it gets sticky and im my opinion worse
> > than the NHMA Guidelines now you have to find a "competant person" to
not
> > only train but operate the equipment and I would suspect there would be
> > guidelines pray tell how these are different in context to the NHMA
> > guidelines. In effect a risk management policy!!!
> >
> >
> > I have kept cattle in lesser fencing than you have for an engine show.
> > It's insane. I watched the tug of war with the steam tractor and the
> > children. They lost three times and all fell down. No harm except for a
> > skinned knee or two. Right back up to give it another go. "Papa, we
> > finally won" and that's what it's all about. Family friendly, kid
> > friendly, and people friendly should be the goal.
> >
> > Again this is fantastic, I would love to do this at our rally, but how
do
> > we stop "oppertunists" those that "Sue" for a skinned knee or two from
> > financially breaking our hobby???
> >
> > Don't fence me in!!......... I think you are more fenced in than you
know
> >
> > And Reg we have spoken on this many times and forged a good
realationship
> > and a huge amount of respect and friendship from it, and you recall I
> > agreed with your thoughts on how it should be. And as I think I
suggested
> > to you the reasons for what you mentioned happened in your the club,
they
> > where "personal" and not the NHMA ringing up and saying "Reg Ingold is a
> > idiot can him" (not that they would or could do this anyway) sadly the
> > NHMA was used as a lever, means or motivation to achieve someone elses
> > personal goal..... to have you removed from the club.
> >
> > And this comes back to what one of the other guys said about the
> > personalitys of others!!!
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >                      Adam
> >
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