[SEL] John Deere 1 1/2hp E ignitor

Thu Aug 10 17:54:13 PDT 2017

Curt,
	Just get an unsuspecting kid in the neighborhood to hold the wire and then spin the flywheels. (Younger kids are better and can be used several times. Older kids can only be used once! The same is true for woman—I learned that from my X-wife!)  No need to even look for a spark, you will know if the mag is working. I used to use this method to test my mags, but the kid next door (and my X) finally moved away!
	Dave

> On Aug 10, 2017, at 8:17 PM, Dave Otto <ddotto at cableone.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Curt
> 
> A couple things maybe you haven't tried. While cranking the engine as fast
> as you can rub the mag wire over the springs on the ignitor and you should
> get some nice sparks, as long as they're not covered with paint. Also the
> timing of the ignitor trip to the position of the armature is very
> important. At the point your ignitor trips the little rivet in the rear mag
> cover needs to drop into the detent of the armature. Even the slop in the
> bolt holes of the ignitor can mess up the timing if you remove and
> re-install the ignitor. 
> 
> Many years ago I struggled with my JD and two things caused me problems; I
> added too much oil in the rear cup and fouled the collector ring, which
> someone has already mentioned. And the timing between the mag and ignitor.
> 
> I hope this may help,
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
> cgandree at mchsi.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 7:28 AM
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> Subject: Re: [SEL] John Deere 1 1/2hp E ignitor
> 
> Not yet John, but that's an idea I hadn't tried.  However, there is small
> engine show this weekend nearby and many of my engine goroos will be there
> so plan to take the old girl and seek help.
> Thanks,
> Curt
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jbcast at charter.net
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> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 6:18:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] John Deere 1 1/2hp E ignitor
> 
> Have you tried battery and coil to be sure everything else is OK?
> J.B.
> 
> 	-----------------------------------------From: cgandree at mchsi.com
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> Sent: 06-Aug-2017 10:47:07 +0000
> Subject: Re: [SEL] John Deere 1 1/2hp E ignitor
> 
> Jim I purchased a complete new housing that had new bearings, etc.
> Then re-assembled and charged the magnets.
> I am leaning towards my timing is off and need to make those adjustments.
> Hopefully get it running again soon.
> Thanks,
> Curt
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Ritenour" 
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 6:21:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] John Deere 1 1/2hp E ignitor
> 
> I saw you rebuilt the mag what exactly did you do? Did you have the
> bushings replaced? This can be tricky if your machine is not set up
> correctly.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 1, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Judge Tommy Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> Tom is correct. If using a mag the points should stay closed and only
> open  > when the ignitor snaps. If using a battery and coil the points
> should  > always remain open and only close when the ignitor is tripped.
>> 
>> Tommy Turner
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tom Winland
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 2:23 PM  > To: The SEL email discussion
> list  > Subject: Re: [SEL] John Deere 1 1/2hp E ignitor  >  > The point stay
> closed when using the mag and open when using a battery and  > coil  >  >
> Tom Winland  > Aka GasEngineTom  > Sent from my iPhone  >  >> On Aug 1,
> 2017, at 1:13 PM, Ed Herreid  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Curt,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pretty sure the points should be open. When the igniter is tripped it  >
> closes quickly and then stays open. Possibly one of the springs in  >
> reversed? If it is closed all the time the coil/mag is going to get hot.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Also common is the wiper on the mag part getting oily and slicked up and
>> not making good contact. Every once in a while I have to remove the little
>> screw cap on top and take a pencil eraser with a rag covering and clean it
>> up. Check the little contact on the end of the spring and clean it up if
>> needed too.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ed Herreid
>>> 
>>> 
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> email discussion list  >> Cc: cgandree at aol.com  >> Subject: [SEL] John Deere
> 1 1/2hp E ignitor  >>  >> Ok guys I just rebuilt my magnito on my JD 1 1/2 E
> and charged it  >> properly. After putting it back on the engine and making
> sure that
> 
>>> the gears were at the marks as before I attempted to start the engine
>>> but no go. I removed the ignitor and cleaned and oiled everything so the
>> it would trip properly. Tried to turn it over but still no go. My question
>> is, should the points on this ignitor be open or closed? Mine are closed.
>> Sure would likes some words of wisdom from the group.
>>> Thank you in advance.
>>> Curt Andree
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