What Rob said. I just don't have quite as much time to spend on the hobby as work is busy and so is family life. Patrick Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html I still belong to SEL, I still go to shows, I still have fun. <http://www.rustyiron.com/> <http://www.rustyiron.com/PhoneRob.html>