[SEL] Let's have some fun for a good cause ! Let's NOT do this again!

[Jerry Evans]

Hi Jeff,
         I'm sorry that you feel that way but please do not be upset. Allow 
me to explain a few things first.

         1) I know I said I would write to the bidders personally within 24 
hours BUT, I was not counting on having the type of day I had yesterday - 
it was just one of those days where everything went wrong and needed my 
immediate attention and I could not find the time to write those letters. 
Then I had a lot  of paperwork etc. to do and I had to do it last night. I 
eventually started writing the letters after midnight last night but only 
got 2 of them done and I pressed "send" at about 2:30 am this morning - I 
still had some other paperwork to do and was was just too tired to do any 
more letters -I eventually got to bed at 4:45 am and thought that I would 
send the others out today. I did get an e-mail from Paul at Internal Fire 
and he mentioned that you and one other bidder had already paid (but he did 
not say how much)and those were the two letters I still needed to write but 
thought that, seeing as that you had paid already you were happy. It's now 
4:30 pm Wednesday here and I only got in to the office and downloaded my 
mail about 3/4 hour ago and found this mail from you.

         2) Re updating the bids, I saw your original mail in this regard 
but both Luke Tonneberger and George Best sent in regular updates to both 
lists on status of the bidding so I did not bother to duplicate their 
posts. Did you not see these ??

         3) Regarding the fact that I said the highest bidders could choose 
how many they wanted - the rules never changed !! I did realise that this 
may have caused a bit of confusion but allowed for it in a letter (Off 
List) to Paul a day before closing - I'll "cut and paste" part of my letter 
to Paul here:
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"Also, I did say that the highest bidder could choose how many he wants and 
then the second highest etc. It may end up a bit confusing - but I could 
always throw in a few extra if necessary to placate anyone "
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         So you see Jeff, I had made allowance for that and you as the 
second highest bidder can choose to take 3 plates (or even 4  if you wish) 
I have no problem with that and the next 2 lower bids will still get their 
plates and more if they so wish  - after all, it just means that Internal 
Fire will get more money in which makes me very happy.

         4) The closing time was 8:00 pm (GMT) (or ZULU time if you prefer 
the military version) as I stated right from the beginning. The the last 2 
bids  were from David Carter (which came in almost an hour before closing 
time) and Alan in Michigan which came into my computer about 2 hours before 
closing time. I'll paste the headers from their mails below. Both of these 
went to the Oldengine List so you should have seen them.:
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From: David Carter <no1djc at hotmail.com>
To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Subject: RE: Let's have some fun for a good cause !
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:08:51 +0000
Importance: Normal
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From: Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Let's have some fun for a good cause !
To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Reply-To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Sender: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org
X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.96.5/12562/Sun Jan 23 19:55:06 2011)
(Note from Jerry - we are 2 hours ahead of Zulu)
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         Jeff please let me know how many plates you want and the details - 
it will be a pleasure to make them for you. I apologise for any confusion 
and hope that everything is now cleared up .

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>










At 04:50 AM 26/01/2011, you wrote:
>Howdy all,
>
>Perhaps a good idea and a generous offer, but it didn't work out well. The 
>bids should have been updated several times so all would know how bidding 
>was going. Considering it was on two lists, and I am only on one of them, 
>I had no idea of the bidding on the other. Perhaps there were no bids on 
>the SEL cause of past problems with this sort of thing. As I understood 
>the original terms the high bidder could take one or all of the plates for 
>the bid on each, as in high bid times four. Seems the terms changed 
>somewhere along the line. Terms and conditions should not change after the 
>start of the auction.
>
>I appreciate what Jerry tried to do, but let's not do it again. I still 
>haven't heard back. 24 hours must be longer in SA. I've made my donation 
>and will call it good. I think some bids came in after 20 hours Zulu time, 
>and that was supposed to be the end. Backup bidder can have my plate. My 
>moneys in.
>
>Jeff Allen
>
>From: <mailto:jerrye at databak.co.za>Jerry Evans
>Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 4:39 AM
>To: 
><mailto:stationary-engine at oldengine.org>stationary-engine at oldengine.org ; 
><mailto:sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>SEL List
>Subject: RE: Let's have some fun for a good cause ! Results
>
>Hi Guys,
>         Thanks to all for participating. At this stage it looks like the 
> high bids were:
>
>a) Alan in Michigan - $ 100.00
>b) Jeff Allen - $ 75.00
>c) Mike Royster - $ 50.00
>d) Dave Carter - $ 50.00
>
>         If there are any queries or maybe I missed a bid please contact 
> me immediately. Failing that I'll ask Paul if he is in agreement and then 
> contact the high bidders personally within the next 24 hours.
>
>         It looks like you've raised $ 275.00 for the roof at Internal 
> Fire shed 5. Thanks guys your generosity is fantastic - I knew that I 
> could rely on the good folk of old engine land.
>
>Keep the revs up (or down)
>Jerry Evans
>Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
>Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
><www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>
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