[SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt)

Fri Nov 7 21:03:43 PST 2008

Rick,
    I've never gotten the statement from you for the 100 lbs of babbitt that 
I donated to the Tod Engine Foundation.  I need this to give to my tax man. 
Thanks.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


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Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt)


>I just got a quote on genuine Babbitt at $12.58 per lb. delivered.   I know
> I'll have to repour the big ends of the Tod Engine's connecting rods
> someday, and each one takes 325 lbs. of the stuff. Everything I've read 
> says
> to use no more than 50% old Babbitt when repouring, meaning I will need
> several hundred pounds of new Babbitt.
>
> I just wish we could spare the money to buy all of what you have 
> remaining,
> but every penny we have has to go into putting our new engine house 
> building
> up, and I don't even have enough to do that yet. ;-(
>
> Maybe if you still have it next year...
>
> Rick Rowlands
> Executive Director
> Tod Engine Foundation
> "Preserving Youngstown's Steel Industry Heritage"
> 2261 Hubbard Road
> Youngstown, OH  44505
> 330-272-4089
> www.todengine.org
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Judge Tommy Turnere" <Lcjudge at scrtc.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt)
>
>
>> Peter,
>>    I wished I had some way to get babbitt to you.  I have some NOS 
>> Jackson
>> Wheeler high speed nickel babbitt in about 3 lb ingots.  I'd sell it to
>> you
>> for $5 / lb.  Its probably worth more than that for scrap.  I bought 
>> about
>> a
>> ton of the stuff several years ago (didn't aim to buy it but I made the
>> guy
>> an offer and he said "its yours".) I've sold it to a lot of folks for one
>> cylinders, Model T's and other applications.  All that have used it are
>> very
>> pleased with it.  Here's what it looks like:
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/Misc/photo#5160269484786225074
>>
>> Tommy Turner
>> Magnolia, KY
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
>> To: "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; "ATIS"
>> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:27 PM
>> Subject: [SEL] white metal for bearings (Babbitt)
>>
>>
>>> Hi All
>>> I know we have been through this before, but I just want to clarify a 
>>> few
>>> points.
>>>
>>> 1. What is the tolerance between the crankshaft and the bearing ID. The
>>> crankshaft is 1 1/2" dia. and the bearing is about 4 1/2" long. How many
>>> thou. do I allow.?
>>> 2.  The oil groove in the bearing, should it be on top of the bearing
>>> where
>>> the oil comes through and is there a need for one on the bottom. The
>>> bearings I took out of my vertical R&V also have a groove around the 
>>> end,
>>> I
>>> guess to hold the oil before it finally comes out, if it does. Would you
>>> try
>>> and direct oil that comes to the bottom back into the engine via a 
>>> spiral
>>> directional groove at the bottom of the bearing. You might say, who 
>>> cares
>>> it
>>> will not be run that often, but it is an exercise for me in machining
>>> also.
>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/my_main_bearings.htm
>>> There will eventually be a complete restoration guide for the vertical
>>> R&V
>>> when I finally think of the format I want to use at:
>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/my_vertical_restoration.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> The email reply below was from a bearing company in Victoria, Oz, I bit
>>> pricy on their metal or am I out of touch $$$$?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Peter Lowe
>>> R&V Engine Registrar
>>> Australia
>>> Ph: 61-266453455
>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rv-register.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Hi Peter
>>>>
>>>> Our recommended white metal is a stock line called DSL, This is most
>>>> suitable for high & low speed applications & high load factors.
>>>> Composition:
>>>> SN - Tin           88.20%
>>>> AG - Silver       0.10%
>>>> CD - Cadmium 1.00%
>>>> CU - Copper    3.05%
>>>> NI -  Nickel      0 .15%
>>>> SB  - Antimony 7.50%
>>>>
>>>> More important is that the oilways and clearance are correct.
>>>> If the finished bush is 1KG I would suggest you make allowance for OD,
>>>> ID
>>>> & length finish machining.
>>>> Price per Kilo is $42.50 plus postage.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Ian Hill.
>>>
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