[SEL] Engine ID needed.

[Alan]

Curt,
Have you iried Google patents?
http://www.google.com/patents

Just type in your number and go.

HTH,  Alan

--- curt at rustyiron.com wrote:

> Tommy, Elden,
> Odd duck is right! I initially thought this was a 2 cycle engine because
> of what looked like ported exhaust, and the fact that every time the
> piston heads toward TDC it is on compression. Makes sense eh? But I found
> the engine in the BYB and it claims it is a 4 cycle engine with a "special
> mechanism that allowed skipping of the exhaust valve push rod.
> 
> I'm trying to get the patents to load on my computer, but am having
> problems with viewing them. I'm getting only partial views at the moment,
> so I've got a computer issue to muddle thru before learning more.
> Patent number is 740,571 if you'd like to have a look. If someone happens
> to get the tif's to download in completion, I'd appreciate an offlist
> email with the tif's attached, so I can read them. I think there are 8
> pages.
> 
> Currently the engine is belted to a large 3 phase motor and that's how it
> is rotated and made to fire on occasion. Turn the power off and the poor
> engine barely chuffs and can't produce enough power to even sustain
> itself, so there is much to do to get it running well and making decent
> power.
> 
> As to the governor linkage, it leads me to believe it is a throttle
> governed engine. That's fairly unusual too considering the year of
> manufacture was 1902/3.
> Curt
> 
> 
> 
> > Elden,
> >     Kurt needs to answer this for sure but I think the 4 cycle mechanism
> > works similar to that on a McVicker (at least the same principle).  The
> > engine fires and the explosive pressure causes the small shaft
> > (connected to some sort of internal piston) to "kick out".  This engages
> > a latch that causes the push rod to engage with the exhaust valve.
> > Where this engine appears to be different than a McVicker is that is has
> > linkage connecting the gov to the carb.  On a McVicker the gov pulls the
> > electrical connection away from the timer causing the engine to miss.
> > But, its missing under compression.  During the miss cycle the cylinder
> > is constantly compressing the fuel, then backs off compression as the
> > piston travels toward the rear of the cylinder.  As long as you don't
> > have any blow by (or very minimal) this system works good.  If you have
> > blow by then the piston will, on each back stroke, suck in a little
> > fuel.  Then when the governor allows the electrical connection it fires
> > but floods.  The Carl Anderson has to work on a bit different
> > principle.  Possibly the gov system totally cuts off the fuel in some
> > way and it would be interesting to tear that baby apart and figure it
> > out.  Curt can do it though, I've got faith in him!
> >
> > Tommy Turner
> > Magnolia, KY
> >
> >
> >>Kurt:
> >>
> >>That is an odd duck of an engine.  I assume it is 4-cycle but if it's
> >> only got ported exhaust, how does that work?
> >>
> >>If the exhaust(?) cam turns at crankshaft speed, how can it be a 4-cycle?
> >>  I didn't see anything like a 2-to-1 gizmo on the pushrod.
> >>
> >>How does the governor work?  Is it hit and miss or volume governed?
> >>
> >>Lotsa questions!  Great oddball engine.  I hope it's in your shed.  If
> >> you want to get rid of it, I'll give you scrap price for it if you'll
> >> help load it into my trailer.  Nyuk, nyuk!
> >>
> >>Take care - Elden
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >>>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
> >>> Behalf Of
> >>>curt at rustyiron.com
> >>>Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 12:03 PM
> >>>To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org;
> >>>sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >>>Subject: [SEL] Engine ID needed.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Guys,
> >>>Could use a little help ID'ing an engine. I
> >>>believe it is a Carl Anderson
> >>>engine made in Chicago from perusing the BYB.
> >>>
> >>>If anyone has one please contact me as I need
> >>>some information to get it
> >>>running.
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>Curt Holland
> >>>Gastonia, NC
> >>>
> >>><http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/C
> >>>
> >>>
> >>arlAnderson/Thumbnails.html>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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