Hi Paul, The only idea I have is to wait till you get another Gibb Key Puller. Why start butchering a beautiful Gibb Key like that? Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Remember when TV bloopers were a rare mistake - (_o_) not the entire show?