[SEL] Blacksmithing / Anvils
Steve W.
falcon at telenet.net
Thu May 4 06:10:47 PDT 2006
Tom has a good pattern you could copy... The picture he linked has a
pretty good line-up of different designs.
Basically it needs to be stable and have the steel under the areas that
you use for working the steel. While the Nimba is an UGLY looking anvil
it is a great working piece. Then at the other end of the spectrum are
the newer farriers anvils, they don't have enough iron in the heel or
horn to be used effectively as a heavy anvil. Then if you toss in the
old Japanese designs (simple block shapes) or some of the German or
Greek armorers anvils (they had cast in curves and divots to form arm
and leg armor) easier, it gets a bit confusing.
Personally I like either the Peddinghaus style or the Vaughn/Brooks. The
old Mouse Hole anvils are good workers but that short horn means you
need to have a few stake anvils to form smaller items (which isn't a bad
thing) You might consider making a few accessories as well. Things like
forming cones and stakes and hardie tools are getting very hard to find
because of all the folks "collecting" them.
http://www.blackiron.us/anvil-types.html shows many of the styles.
Now for the 100 dollar question, What will you be using for your
trademark on the anvil? Maybe a cast in image of the Tod?
Steve Williams
Near Cooperstown, New York
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Rowlands" <jrrowlands at neo.rr.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Blacksmithing / Anvils
> It won't be a huge money maker for me but apparently there is a need
for a
> moderately priced American made anvil. Anyways 100 years from now
they
> will become collectors items.
>
> The question now seems to be to pick a design for the anvil. Anyone
have
> any thoughts as to what the best design would be? I don't know
anything
> about blacksmithing and wouldn't know what or what not to include in
it.
>
> Rick Rowlands
> Tod Engine Works
> Makers of Quality iron, steel, ductile iron
> and nonferrous castings
> 249 North Water Avenue
> Sharon, PA 16146
> 330-728-2799
> Fax 330-759-1524
> www.todengine.org/engineworks.html
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 7:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Blacksmithing / Anvils
>
>
> > If you can turn out a 250 for $2.00 a pound you WILL sell a BUNCH of
> > them. That is just about what used old anvils are bringing in price.
> >
> > Steve Williams
> > Near Cooperstown, New York
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick Rowlands" <jrrowlands at neo.rr.com>
> > To: "The SEL email discussion list"
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 10:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: [SEL] Blacksmithing / Anvils
> >
> >
> >> I did some research and there is a fellow in the US making steel
> > anvils,
> >> however I think his prices are a bit on the high side. How many
> > hobbyist
> >> blacksmiths can afford to spend $1,450 on a 260 pound anvil, even
if
> > it is a
> >> beautiful piece?
> >>
> >> http://www.anvils.nimbaforge.com/
> >>
> >> According to his website he has them poured out of 8640 steel and
heat
> >> treated to rockwell 50. I've made 8640 before and a local heat
> > treater
> >> will have no problem doing the correct treatment. We could
probably
> > sell a
> >> comparable anvil at a profit for around $500. However the anvil
would
> > have
> >> the as cast finish except for the face which I could plane on our
> > 1880s
> >> Putnam planer or 20" G&E shaper.
> >>
> >> I think Curt is interested in making the pattern for this one. I
can't
> > pour
> >> these with my current furnace however I'm agressively looking for a
> > 300
> >> pound furnace which would be able to handle this size anvil.
> >>
> >> Rick Rowlands
> >> Tod Engine Works
> >> Makers of Quality iron, steel, ductile iron
> >> and nonferrous castings
> >> 249 North Water Avenue
> >> Sharon, PA 16146
> >> 330-728-2799
> >> Fax 330-759-1524
> >> www.todengine.org/engineworks.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
> >> To: "The SEL email discussion list"
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 9:55 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Blacksmithing (a tad OT) bringing the next
> > generation
> >> along.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Not sure what steel it is but it runs about .40 points of carbon
> >> > content. The main problem is that the face isn't heat treated
evenly
> > so
> >> > some have soft areas. What kind of money would you be talking and
> > how
> >> > large could you pour? There is actually a LARGE market for a good
> > steel
> >> > anvil made in the US.
> >> >
> >> > Steve Williams
> >> > Near Cooperstown, New York
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Rick Rowlands" <jrrowlands at neo.rr.com>
> >> > To: "The SEL email discussion list"
> > <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 6:23 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [SEL] Blacksmithing (a tad OT) bringing the next
> > generation
> >> > along.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> I'll make you one out of real steel (8630 heat treated) once I
get
> > the
> >> >> larger furnace installed. Who knows what that russian stuff is.
> >> >>
> >> >> Rick
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
> >> >> To: "The SEL email discussion list"
> > <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 4:05 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Blacksmithing (a tad OT) bringing the next
> >> > generation
> >> >> along.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Want a decent anvil for a GOOD price? Wander into Harbor
Freight
> > and
> >> > buy
> >> >> > the 110 pound RUSSIAN imported steel anvil they sell. I have
two
> > of
> >> > them
> >> >> > and they work well once you reshape the nose and clean up the
> > face.
> >> > I
> >> >> > do blade smithing on mine and use the other to make "iron"
items
> > for
> >> >> > other folks.
> >> >> > I also have a 200 pounder that I found cheap.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Steve Williams
> >> >> > Near Cooperstown, New York
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Pacifism - The theory that if they'd fed
> >> >> > Jeffrey Dahmer enough human flesh,
> >> >> > he'd have become a vegan.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> > From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
> >> >> > To: "SEL" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "SEL
> > (Oldengine.org)"
> >> >> > <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 2:49 PM
> >> >> > Subject: [SEL] Blacksmithing (a tad OT) bringing the next
> > generation
> >> >> > along.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> We've attended the SIAM show for quite a few years and this
is a
> >> > show
> >> >> >> Devin particularly enjoys in large part because of the
> > blacksmith
> >> >> > there.
> >> >> >> He has been very patient with Devin thru the years as he hung
> >> > around
> >> >> >> poking the fire and cranking the blower. In time the fellow
has
> > let
> >> >> > him
> >> >> >> do more and more and Devin seems to be picking up a strong
> > interest
> >> > in
> >> >> >> this part of the old iron hobby.
> >> >> >> For those at Portland in the SEL area last fall, you may
recall
> >> > Devin
> >> >> >> picked up a forge blower. For his birthday last weekend (now
a
> >> >> > teenager)
> >> >> >> we picked up a forge pan from Clayton Ballard that was
missing
> > all
> >> > the
> >> >> >> built in blower parts. This was perfect as Devin had a stand
> > alone
> >> >> >> blower. I made a air entrance and elbow to attach the
temporary
> >> > hose
> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> (shop vac hose) and Devin gave it a whirl on Sunday evening.
> > Missy
> >> > and
> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> sat and had our afternoon drink (her Scotch, my beer) and
> > enjoyed
> >> > the
> >> >> >> entertainment Devin provided. I took a couple of pictures and
> > they
> >> > are
> >> >> > here:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >
<http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/BlacksmithDevin/Thumbna
> >> >> > ils.html>
> >> >> >> The little anvil he is using is a tad small, so we may be on
the
> >> >> > lookout
> >> >> >> for a decent sized anvil. Believe we will also set up a
little
> > area
> >> > in
> >> >> >> the backyard with a roof for him to 'smith in. He definitely
> > needs
> >> > to
> >> >> > be
> >> >> >> further away from the house as the coal smoke will soon soot
up
> > the
> >> >> > side
> >> >> >> of the house!
> >> >> >> Missy and I are quite encouraged that he is showing interest
in
> >> > this
> >> >> >> even as the teen years are beginning. Kids need something
> >> > productive
> >> >> >> that keeps them challenged and interested in contrast to all
the
> >> > other
> >> >> >> temptations available to them at this age.
> >> >> >> Not many pictures to look at on the link yet, but we hope you
> > enjoy
> >> >> > them.
> >> >> >> Curt & Missy Holland
> >> >> >> Gastonia, NC
> >> >> >>
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