[SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH

Tue Jun 20 13:41:05 PDT 2006

Hi Curt, Do I have your permission to forward this document to the board of 
directors at Arden? I think it might make a difference in attitude. Thanks, 
Steve

>From: Curt <curt at imc-group.com>
>Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org, SEL <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: [SEL] Re: Wauseon, OH
>Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:35:52 -0400
>
>Bingo Reg,  you hit the nail on the head! We can only vote by our 
>participation (or not) in these shows. Once a show transitions from a 
>mentality of 'not for profit' to 'for profit', the culture of that shows 
>fails to inspire me to attend again. Take Coolsprings for example. No doubt 
>one of the finest, if not _the_ finest gas engine show on the planet. No 
>charge for exhibiting, no charge for camping. What a great experience 
>Coolsprings is!
>On the other end of the spectrum are shows like Denton (NC) and now Arden 
>(NC). Unfortunately due to their money greedy ways they will not find me 
>exhibiting there again. I AM tempted to make my point by borrowing a Maytag 
>and setting up at Arden with a LARGE sign that reads something like:
>"Why didn't I bring my side shaft Abenaque, or my Stickney, or my Famous???
>Because this club, which has over $100,000 in the bank, has decided to 
>charge
>exhibitors to display engines/reserve slots. Nope, I won't bring another 
>nice
>engine in support of this show until this fee is revoked. Sorry guys the 
>Maytag
>is all you get."
>
>Probably won't affect a damned thing in a club that has a 'tractors only' 
>mentality, but a least I will have made my point loud and clear.
>Curt Holland
>Gastonia, NC
>P.S. At our Cotton Ginning Days show, we (the board of directors) and other 
>members, pay for all the show costs out of our pockets so that others may 
>enjoy our show free of charge. We even serve a free dinner on Saturday 
>night for exhibitors.
>
>
>
>R & M Ingold wrote:
>
>>This is a personal thing. If you are prepared to pay to show your toys, so 
>>be it.
>>I will NOT. My choice.
>>So, the shows will rise and fall on the choices of the exhibitors.
>>Reg & Marg Ingold.
>>Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
>>randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
>>To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:58 PM
>>Subject: Re: Wauseon, OH
>>
>>
>>>On 20/06/06, John DeBrular <debrular at charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>At Portland if you are exhibiting entrance and camping is free. They
>>>>will charge you a one time fee to cover some things. If you are not
>>>>exhibiting then it will cost you. One of the best deals there is the
>>>>Swap barn where you bring something in and they will sell if for you.
>>>>They charge you 10%
>>>>quite a bargain.
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>
>>>
>>>In the UK, exhibitors generally are allowed to camp/caravan free of
>>>charge but facilities are usually minimal as most shows are held in
>>>basic green field sites.
>>>
>>>Peter
>>>--
>>
>
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>Bingo Reg,  you hit the nail on the head! We can only vote by our
>participation (or not) in these shows. Once a show transitions from a
>mentality of 'not for profit' to 'for profit', the culture of that
>shows fails to inspire me to attend again. Take Coolsprings for
>example. No doubt one of the finest, if not <u>the</u> finest gas
>engine show on the planet. No charge for exhibiting, no charge for
>camping. What a great experience Coolsprings is!<br>
>On the other end of the spectrum are shows like Denton (NC) and now
>Arden (NC). Unfortunately due to their money greedy ways they will not
>find me exhibiting there again. I AM tempted to make my point by
>borrowing a Maytag and setting up at Arden with a LARGE sign that reads
>something like:<br>
>"Why didn't I bring my side shaft Abenaque, or my Stickney, or my
>Famous???<br>
>Because this club, which has over $100,000 in the bank, has decided to
>charge<br>
>exhibitors to display engines/reserve slots. Nope, I won't bring
>another nice<br>
>engine in support of this show until this fee is revoked. Sorry guys
>the Maytag <br>
>is all you get."<br>
><br>
>Probably won't affect a damned thing in a club that has a 'tractors
>only' mentality, but a least I will have made my point loud and clear. <br>
>Curt Holland<br>
>Gastonia, NC<br>
>P.S. At our Cotton Ginning Days show, we (the board of directors) and
>other members, pay for all the show costs out of our pockets so that
>others may enjoy our show free of charge. We even serve a free dinner
>on Saturday night for exhibitors. <br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>R & M Ingold wrote:
><blockquote cite="mid007d01c69447$2b4d4170$0401a8c0 at reg6db4351094b"
>type="cite">This is a personal thing. If you are prepared to pay to
>show your toys, so be it.
>  <br>
>I will NOT. My choice.
>  <br>
>So, the shows will rise and fall on the choices of the exhibitors.
>  <br>
>Reg & Marg Ingold.
>  <br>
>Newcastle, NSW, Australia.
>  <br>
><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
>href="mailto:randmingold at hotkey.net.au">randmingold at hotkey.net.au</a>
>  <br>
><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
>href="http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold">http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold</a>
>  <br>
>  <br>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel"
><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
>href="mailto:listerdiesel at gmail.com"><listerdiesel at gmail.com></a>
>  <br>
>To: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
>href="mailto:stationary-engine at oldengine.org"><stationary-engine at oldengine.org></a>
>  <br>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:58 PM
>  <br>
>Subject: Re: Wauseon, OH
>  <br>
>  <br>
>  <br>
>  <blockquote type="cite">On 20/06/06, John DeBrular
><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
>href="mailto:debrular at charter.net"><debrular at charter.net></a> wrote:
>    <br>
>    <blockquote type="cite">At Portland if you are exhibiting entrance
>and camping is free. They
>      <br>
>will charge you a one time fee to cover some things. If you are not
>      <br>
>exhibiting then it will cost you. One of the best deals there is the
>      <br>
>Swap barn where you bring something in and they will sell if for you.
>      <br>
>They charge you 10%
>      <br>
>quite a bargain.
>      <br>
>      <br>
>John
>      <br>
>    </blockquote>
>    <br>
>In the UK, exhibitors generally are allowed to camp/caravan free of
>    <br>
>charge but facilities are usually minimal as most shows are held in
>    <br>
>basic green field sites.
>    <br>
>    <br>
>Peter
>    <br>
>-- <br>
>  </blockquote>
></blockquote>
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