[SEL] Engineers/now POLITICAL and OT!

Dave Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net
Mon Sep 5 22:03:06 PDT 2005


Good doG, when you choose to live in a bathtub you are going to get wet 
once in a while!
         Dave
PS, Not that it matters much, but the COE determined some time ago that the 
levy that burst was the most likely NOT to.

At 09:37 PM 9/5/2005, you wrote:
>Steve, I agree that if the state and locals saw a problem then they should 
>fix it.  However, when dealing with running waterways, they have no 
>jurisdiction.  All mapped and flowing (used to be called navigable) 
>waterways are under the total jurisdiction and control of the Corps of 
>Engineers, a Federal agency that turns its nose to any state or local 
>suggestion that they know how something should be "fixed".  I'm very 
>familar with how they work.  We have a local city that has a river running 
>through the middle of town.  The stream began eroding a bank, due to a log 
>jam, and it was getting close to one of the city water treatment holding 
>tanks.  The city decided to "fix it".  They did the logical thing by 
>removing the log jam and placing large rock on the eroded bank.  They then 
>had the opposite side dredged to help open the stream.  The Corps heard 
>about it and the City and contractor ended up in Federal Court.  The last 
>I heard about it the city had to pay some sort of restitution and is under 
>an Agreed Order to prevent it from trying to do such a thing again.  The 
>contractor ended up not having to pay any restitution but he told me he 
>spent about $5000 on attorney's fees.  So, when the state and locals cry 
>"the Feds didn't fix it" they're exactly right.  I agree with your 
>statement that NO shouldn't have been built where it was.  But, you have 
>to remember that this situation has been ongoing over time and whoever 
>picked out the location to construct NO 225  or so years ago didn't have 
>good flood plain maps.
>
>Tommy Turner
>Magnolia, KY
>
>
>
>Steve W. wrote:
>
>>The big thing that I see as a citizen is a State blaming the Federal
>>government for things that were there own fault. The state was warned
>>repeatedly about the problems and failed to correct them. Now the state
>>is saying that it was because the Feds wouldn't give them the money.
>>BFD. If they KNEW there was a problem FIX IT, then bitch about it later.
>>
>>
>>
>
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