[SEL] Engineers/now POLITICAL and OT!
Dave Rotigel
rotigel at alltel.net
Mon Sep 5 22:03:06 PDT 2005
Good doG, when you choose to live in a bathtub you are going to get wet
once in a while!
Dave
PS, Not that it matters much, but the COE determined some time ago that the
levy that burst was the most likely NOT to.
At 09:37 PM 9/5/2005, you wrote:
>Steve, I agree that if the state and locals saw a problem then they should
>fix it. However, when dealing with running waterways, they have no
>jurisdiction. All mapped and flowing (used to be called navigable)
>waterways are under the total jurisdiction and control of the Corps of
>Engineers, a Federal agency that turns its nose to any state or local
>suggestion that they know how something should be "fixed". I'm very
>familar with how they work. We have a local city that has a river running
>through the middle of town. The stream began eroding a bank, due to a log
>jam, and it was getting close to one of the city water treatment holding
>tanks. The city decided to "fix it". They did the logical thing by
>removing the log jam and placing large rock on the eroded bank. They then
>had the opposite side dredged to help open the stream. The Corps heard
>about it and the City and contractor ended up in Federal Court. The last
>I heard about it the city had to pay some sort of restitution and is under
>an Agreed Order to prevent it from trying to do such a thing again. The
>contractor ended up not having to pay any restitution but he told me he
>spent about $5000 on attorney's fees. So, when the state and locals cry
>"the Feds didn't fix it" they're exactly right. I agree with your
>statement that NO shouldn't have been built where it was. But, you have
>to remember that this situation has been ongoing over time and whoever
>picked out the location to construct NO 225 or so years ago didn't have
>good flood plain maps.
>
>Tommy Turner
>Magnolia, KY
>
>
>
>Steve W. wrote:
>
>>The big thing that I see as a citizen is a State blaming the Federal
>>government for things that were there own fault. The state was warned
>>repeatedly about the problems and failed to correct them. Now the state
>>is saying that it was because the Feds wouldn't give them the money.
>>BFD. If they KNEW there was a problem FIX IT, then bitch about it later.
>>
>>
>>
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