In a message dated 11/17/2005 11:30:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com writes: << only to discover a stud was used for key and then the gib was driven in....Luv this stuff!!! >> Rick, Don't you just love the repairs made by others! Guess he used what ever he had on hand to get going again! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. USA Germoamer at aol.com