[SEL] Distasterous news for the historicalmachinerymovementinAustralia!!!

[peter ogborne]

You may be correct David ,I just feel that the proposed scale of Smorgons 
operation may be the problem .Also the older farmers possibly have an 
appreciation for the heritage / value of the items but the younger ones who 
see $$$$ in these difficult times may want to make money to buy that new 
piece of machinery ....and who can blame them for that.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Nicolson" <dnicolson40 at hotmail.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Distasterous news for the 
historicalmachinerymovementinAustralia!!!


> Hi Peter, in my opinion i dont think too many engines will end up in the 
> scrap heap as the two local srapies here drag any of that sort of stuff 
> out of the heaps.All i have been able to find out is they are going to 
> someone else ( wether they be dealers or collectors i dont know) Either 
> way they are being saved.As for the farmers around most of them go to 
> clearing sales so they would have seen the prices old engines bring which 
> is better than scrap prices. I'm not overly worried and this is my 
> opinion.   David.
>
>>From: "peter ogborne" <jopeter at omninet.net.au>
>>Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Distasterous news for the historical 
>>machinerymovementinAustralia!!!
>>Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:34:14 +0800
>>
>>And how do you propose that rare and significant machinery can be 
>>prevented from being sold as scrap . All this ''Scrap '' will be heaped up 
>>and loaded into ships . I can just imagine the "Heritage Police'' checking 
>>all this It will be manifested as scrap ....end of story!
>>All i am saying is that i hope the sellers put aside [ at the source,ie 
>>the farm ] what are considered rare and significant items.
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Best, George" <George_Best at adp.com>
>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 12:49 AM
>>Subject: RE: [SEL] Distasterous news for the historical machinery 
>>movementinAustralia!!!
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>Your Government put up a law banning exports of 'rare and significant'
>>>>machinery, so the good stuff should be protected?  Certainly
>>>>it cannot 'officially' be sold to overseas buyers without an
>>>>export licence as I understand it, and Oz and NZ are the only
>>>>countries that I am aware of that have these restrictions on old iron.
>>>
>>>>Peter A Forbes
>>>
>>>Peter,
>>>
>>>The Czech Republic also now requires paperwork to get an engine out of
>>>the country.
>>>
>>>When the Czech Republic first opened up, engine collectors flooded in
>>>and great quantities of Czech sideshafts and other engines were leaving
>>>the country.  Someone finally realized that these engines were leaving
>>>the country and they now have to okay any engines leaving the country.
>>>
>>>Of course as expected, that still doesn't stop good engines from leaving
>>>the country.  I got a "3hp Little" engine out of there and it's the only
>>>known water cooled Little to exist according to the Czech engine dealer.
>>>Just takes a little extra payment to get the proper paperwork.  It's the
>>>rarest Czech engine I have and also the only one that I have official
>>>paperwork on stating it could be exported.
>>>
>>>I believe Harry had to pay something at the border as well when he went
>>>to pick up the engines and bring them back to his place.
>>>
>>>Oz may work differently as officials there may not be use to making
>>>supplemental income as part of their job.
>>>
>>>George
>>>
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