And while on the subject of Abbos, Do you know why they are called Boongs? Thats the noise they make when ya hit em with a 4 wheel drive. Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>