Guess they (whoever mounted the ball) figured all weight is on the down. And - Yes - You are lucky. Looks like they filled the hole with a nut ? Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com ,-._,-. Is it my imagination - \/)"(\/ or do buffalo wings taste like chicken? (_o_) http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz