[SEL] OHS gone mad

chuck emsweller clemsweller at earthlink.net
Wed Dec 21 19:46:00 PST 2005


Adam,

Thank you for your explanations.  I will admit (at the risk of being
flamed by many on this list as it seems to be a great hobby of theirs)
that I have not been to Australia and only know what I read here on the
list and other various media sources.  Your words have given me a better
understanding of your country.  

However, there still is a basic stigma that your freedoms and ultimately
ours, have been and will continue to be drained away by the many who
wish to control us and run our lives in the name of "safety" and
socialism. The two topics you touch on are ones near and dear to many of
us on this list.  

It is unfortunate that the 8000 you refer to are having an insurance
policy and dollars held over your heads forcing you to compromise this
great hobby of ours.  Yes, I fully agree with Reg on this front.  I have
been very vocal on this topic in the past on this list.  I think that we
should encourage hands on participation at our engine shows.  What
better way of getting more people interested than letting them touch,
feel, and heaven forbid "Start" one of our engines at a show.
Personally, I can say that by doing this I have been responsible for
getting at least 4 people to go out and find their own engine and begin
collecting and restoring old engines by allowing them to get up close
and personal with an engine I was showing.  The day that I have to put a
fence around my display will be the day I quit going to engine these so
called sanctioned shows.  This is my opinion and my freedom of choice to
exercise.  And yes, as you state, that is no different in your country.
The only difference if I were there is that I would be doing my own
shows in my back yard.  My bigger concern is that this; as referred to
in the USA (been flamed on this one once before as well), BLEEDING HEART
LIBERAL attitude carries over from your fine country to mine.  That my
friend I will fight against as long as I am able.  I also feel sorry for
the people of Australia knowing that there is a group of individuals
there that share the same belief about your "guidelines" that I do and
who don't display their engines at your sanctioned shows.  It's not
their loss as much as it is your spectators.

As for the guns, I am glad to hear that you can still hunt in Australia.
That is different than most articles I have read.  I applaud you on your
family's expertise and will say your Grandfather sounds like he was a
fine Gentleman.  

I live in the great state of Indiana and I feel it is my right to own as
many guns as I can afford.  It is also my right to use them for target
practice, hunting, and yes if need be personal protection.  This is
another right of mine (and yours) that I know here in the USA, is
constantly under attack by those same Liberals (again using the USA
definition) that are trying to protect us from living.  Yes, I own
rifles, handguns, shotguns, and a couple of Chinese SKS rifles.  The
only reason for the SKS is because the politicians threatened to ban
them at one time and I felt my rights were being violated.  Besides,
they are fun to shoot and can really reach out and do a job on ground
hogs and other vermin.  I guess in all actuality, the only good answer
to your question would be:

	Why in the great country of Australia, or the great state of
Texas or 
      Indiana should I own a dirty, filthy, noisy, greasy old hit-miss 
      Engine? I don't see a difference!

 
Chuck Emsweller
Rushville, IN
KA9ZOP

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[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Adam
Cottrill
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 8:56 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Cc: sel-request at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] OHS gone mad

Hi guys,
Further those of you who still have the stigma attached to the brain
that it is law that every engine compound has to be fenced and we dont
have guns here I think you need to look a little closer.

Ill explain... 

The fences around engine compounds, IS ONLY a "guideline" for the
current policy of which over 8000 members of the National Historical
Machinery Assocition are a member of.

Point 1. No one is forcing anyone to be a member, and if you wanted to
run a show in your back yard or any where and not be a member of the
association thats fine no one will stop you.

Point 2. As mentioned above this ruling is only a guideline to protect
the insurance policy of the association that is getting close to
$100,000 per year for coverage and for $13 a member for full coverage I
think its a good wicket.  


And finally guns, my family has been a hunting family for well since
they arrived here in the boat in 1788. My Mother was a state archery
champion and because of me (she was pregnaut at the time with me) missed
olympic final selection. My father has missed only 1 duck shooting
season in 55 years and my family has a swag of state and national clay
trap shooters to be proud of and have our own personal clay trap and a
line of goldern retreivers that are well know for there ability.

My grandfather said to me when he taught me to shoot, "Adam if you miss
on the second shot it deserves to live!" yes I am a gun owner and I have
his remington left handed side be side.

But what I cant understand is why in the state of Texas I would need to
own an anti tank gun? or and M16 full auto can someone please explain
this to me?

Best wishes for the festive season,
                                                 Adam

  


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