Hi Jim Have you look at Curt Holland's site ? http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/Cardcatalog.htm There is a section about winding your own springs. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Plan ahead - (_o_) it wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.