[SEL] Galloway 5hp Saw Outfit..finally done

[Richard Strobel]

Thanks Curt..means a lot.

Here's a picture from an old flyer that I used as a guide line for the 
pinstriping.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/88886243/138407159kActEa

Take Care pard
Rick


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Galloway 5hp Saw Outfit..finally done


> Rick,
> Wow what a beauty! I am pleased to hear you say you plan on cutting a
> bit of wood on the Galloway saw. It really would be a shame to spend all
> the time and effort restoring and painting a saw rig and never have it
> see any real use again. Right Dave, Arnie???
>
> As for the weight of the tensioner, the IHC "recommendation" is
> excessive at 150#, unless they are speaking of 150# of tension within
> the belt itself.
> The idler pulley on my Herc saw rig weighs about 30# and is heavier that
> the original since I turned it from a solid piece.
> Running a few numbers determined the internal belt tension is about 53#
> at the amount of belt deflection I currently have. With a 30# roller and
> 53# of internal belt tension I have never been able to slip the belt on
> this saw rig even when really loaded up. I'm certain the original idler
> was lighter and would have resulted in less belt tension.
>
> The idler on the Famous saw rig is considerable lighter. Without
> weighing it I would guess in the neighborhood of 15#. It is supposed to
> have a spring and handwheel assembly that provides down load to the
> idler to increase belt tension, but I don't have those parts made yet. I
> have been running this saw at shows for a couple of years now and the
> belt does not slip under load. I'll venture a guess that there is less
> belt tension on the Famous than on the Hercules.
>
> That said, I would not make any attempt to impose 150# on your belt
> tensioner, the arbor babbitt bearings, or the engine bearings. These
> parts might just give up! If you have 25# of tensioner weight, be
> assured that should be plenty. If you have a bouncing problem with the
> idler (so does my Famous), either ignore it or focus on adding some
> damping. Create some friction at the pivot point by clamping some dished
> washers or using rubber washers, etc. Basically you want to make a
> torsional shock absorber.
> Curt
> P.S. Would you post a couple of closeup photos of the pinstriping details?
>
> Richard Strobel wrote:
>
> >Thanks John!  I still need to fix a few problems and then I'll shoot some
> >closeups.  Plus it needs a good cleanup.  It was such a beautiful 
> >morning, I
> >couldn't resist.
> >
> >   Could you possibly guess how much pull down force on your belt 
> > tensioner?
> >I guess the only way would be to swag it in lbs.  Mine really flops up 
> >and
> >down and I would guess it has ~ 25 pounds of pull down force...maybe 
> >less.
> >
> >  and you'r right.  Galloways are cold blooded.  I heat the mixer and 
> > have
> >much better luck.
> >
> >  Just saw this is going to the list so maybe Curt or someothers could
> >recommend the pull down force of the belt tensioner.  Corky saw somewhere
> >that IHC recommends ~150 pounds of force on the belt 
> >tensioner.......whew!!!
> >
> >  I guess a guy could use a bathroom scale.
> >
> >
> >
>
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