In a message dated 6/8/2004 1:07:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, curt at imc-group.com writes: << What HP are you looking at? >> Curt, Both the 1 3/4 and 2 1/2 are the same, 3 holes with the split into one hole. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. USA Germoamer at aol.com