[SEL] Need Stover Help!

[Paul Maples]

Hello Lyndsay,

You are right Lyndsay, this rocker arm came off of a horizontal engine, well
not really this one, but the original one that this was cast from came off
of a horizontal engine and this probably accounts for the slight difference
in the arms.

The fuel saver arm has a torsion spring on it that is suppose to move the
fuel saver arm over and under the intake valve keeper when the exhaust valve
is depressed thus locking out the intake valve during the exhaust stroke.
The pictures may be deceiving but as the rocker arm goes down it actually
allows for the fuel saver arm to advance forward under the Intake Valve
Keeper. The design of the rocker arm, with the actuating finger hanging down
from it, is such that as the rocker arm comes up it actually pushes the arm
away from the intake valve, as it goes down the spring drives the arm
towards the Intake valve.

Do you have any pictures of your friends YB fuel saver arm or your other
friend's type C horizontal fuel saver arm? I would love to see them.

Thanks,

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lyndsay Frazer" <frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 7:35 AM
Subject: RE: [SEL] Need Stover Help!


> Hi Paul.
>           I was helping a friend with his YB Stover recently (1917) and
the
> fuel saver was double ended and I am fairly sure it was positioned on the
> opossite side of the inlet valve to yours. I also have a friend with a
> horizontal and the fuel saver on it is more like the one in your photos.
Is
> it possible you have the wrong lever(perhaps off a type C horizontal).. I
> can't really see how yours could work as when the rocker moves downward it
> will push the lever away from the valve instead of towards it.
>          I could be entirely wrong here but it is just a thought.
>
> Regards,
> Lyndsay in OZ
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Paul Maples" <pmaples at anaxis.net>
> >Reply-To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> >To: "Stationary Engine List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> >Subject: [SEL] Need Stover Help!
> >Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:32:43 -0500
> >
> >Folks you all know that I have been trying for years to find the right
Fuel
> >Saver Arm for my 1905 Vertical Stover. I thought I had finally succeeded
> >when my good friend John Billings wrote me that he had purchased a Stover
> >and he thought it had the exact arm on it I needed. Not only did John
give
> >me this information but he immediately offered to take his arm off and
have
> >one cast for me and send it to me. John took the part off of his Stover,
> >had
> >one cast for me, and then machined it and sent it to me.......what a
> >friend......
> >
> >I got the parts in last Friday and excitedly ran out to the shop to
install
> >them. It became apparent immediately that this was not the right arm. I
am
> >enclosing pictures of my Stover Head without the rocker arm and fuel
saver
> >arm installed and then I show the head with the rocker arm and the new
fuel
> >saver arm that John made for me. The pictures will affirm the following:
> >
> >The bevel grind that John put on the arm (which was correct for his
engine)
> >is on the wrong side for my setup. Although this is wrong this would be
an
> >easy fix if this was all that was wrong.
> >
> >Also you will not that the arm will have to have a right hand bend in it
to
> >properly work as now it is as close as it can get the to contact plate on
> >the valve. I know that cast iron cannot be bent but I now have the basic
> >design of the arm and by having this part I can calculate the amount of
> >bend
> >I would need in a correct arm. I have confirmed, by looking at the wear
> >pattern on the rocker arm finger that the fuel saver arm did set on the
> >head
> >at this exact angle thus also confirming that the arm did originally have
a
> >bend in it in order to reach the valve contact plate. Here are pictures
of
> >my head and parts:
> >
> >http://community.webshots.com/photo/163076625/163077139KGQWJV
> >
> >I am searching for several things at this point. It is obvious to me that
> >Stover installed many different fuel saver arms on his engines as there
are
> >many configurations out in the engine world. I would love to find someone
> >who has my exact setup as this would make it easier for me to redesign
the
> >parts I have and make them work. I also need an understanding of just how
> >this fuel saver arm works and should be set up.
> >
> >I not only want to get my engine setup but, after all of the problems I
> >have
> >encountered, I want to put together a small booklet on Stover Fuel Saver
> >Arms and make this available to the engine public (free - only cost
postage
> >to mail to you). I would appreciate all of the pictures I could get of
> >Stover Fuel Saver Arms advising me of the following:
> >
> >Year and Model of Engine the Fuel Saver Arm is On.
> >Model Number and Serial Number of Engine
> >Horse of Engine
> >Your Name (if you want to give it)
> >
> >I will compile this information into a colored brochure, or booklet, and
> >make it available to anyone who would want one.
> >
> >Thanks and I am looking forward to hearing from all of you Stover Owners
> >who
> >have engines with Fuel Saver Arms on them.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Paul
> >
> >
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