[SEL] O.T. Need Computer Advice

Wed Jul 7 12:40:42 PDT 2004

Hmmm, I thought I said "updates on CD", guess I must have said "updates on
TV" instead.

:-)

And - it's FREE (aw, com'on, something FREE from Bill the Gates? You're
joshing, right?
Nope, it's true, and part of their great plot for world domination.

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve W.
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 12:28 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need Computer Advice

Or even better go to

http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/cd/order.asp

and get a FREE CD with all the updates up to February on it. Did I mention
it was FREE. It covers XP, ME, 2000, 98 and 98 SE.  Includes media player 9
and IE 6 SP1

Oh and it's FREE in case I forgot that....

Steve Williams
Near Cooperstown NY

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Dickerson" <bill at antique-engines.com>
To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 12:54 PM
Subject: RE: [SEL] O.T. Need Computer Advice

> Updates on CD...............
> There are apps that will pick what you want then run a script to apply
them.
> And for my personal stuff - you go choose what you want and let it run
while
> you go mow the yard.
>
> As for second question - ask John F. Kerry - I hear he's a great
shooter!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
Allen
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 12:00 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need Computer Advice
>
>
> Hells bells Bill,
>
> >snip
> And I'm a lot cheaper than a couple hundred bucks - I can clean them
up in a
> > couple of hours, $35/hour.
>
> I mentioned that I would charge a couple hundred to clean and update.
Tell
> us all how to do a 25 Meg upgrade on dialup in this time frame, and
then
> tell us the best time to hunt bacon with a shotgun.
>
> Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Dickerson" <bill at antique-engines.com>
> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'"
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 8:56 PM
> Subject: RE: [SEL] O.T. Need Computer Advice
>
>
> > It CAN shut down a computer - but only certain operating systems,
not
> > all. And, it has nothing to do with dial-up connections. It's a root 
> > service that it affects and the end result is a complete
> Windows
> > shutdown.
> > (which you can PREVENT, by the way, with a simple command) However, 
> > that is NOT the intent of BLASTER - that is a SIDE EFFECT only,
> not
> > by design.
> > So I still maintain, the virus does not attempt to disconnect from
the
> > Internet. And my statement still stands - NAV will catch the virus - 
> > you mention
> "out
> > of date" - that is the fault of the operator, not the product, so
the
> > product will indeed catch it, however, it's like a gun - a gun will 
> > only
> hit
> > what the operator aims at, operator error equals missed target. 
> > Failure to load gun, missed target. BLASTER is quite old, so unless 
> > they have not updated this year at all,
> NAV
> > will find the "original" BLASTER. Do watch for VARIANTS, however.
> >
> > Yes, I'm aware of what "blaster" does, and doesn't do - I've written 
> > articles on computer viruses, including FAQs used by
> Symantec...............
> > I've even disassembled them - and ( just turned down a chance to be
an
> > engineer at Symantec, working on their corporate products. Their 
> > engineers called me and wanted to fly me out to Santa Monica but we 
> > refuse to live
> in
> > CA)
> > And I'm a lot cheaper than a couple hundred bucks - I can clean them 
> > up in
> a
> > couple of hours, $35/hour. I've cleaned up entire corporate 
> > networks..............
> >
> > I still stick with my original contention that about 90% of computer 
> > woes blamed on "viruses" are NOT viruses. Yes, viruses DO infect 
> > computers and cause problems, but in my experience (over 14 years 
> > worth of computer
> virus
> > fighting) MOST issues are not virus related at all - and everyone 
> > seems to like to cry "VIRUS!" at the first sign of computer
problems -
> > the result
> is
> > that they learn NOTHING about the REAL cause, and simply go in and 
> > blast things away and do a resintall!
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jeff 
> > Allen
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 8:07 PM
> > To: The SEL email discussion list
> > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Need Computer Advice
> >
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > The Blaster Worm will shut down a computer. Not a true virus, but a 
> > worm.
> An
> > anti virus that is out of date won't catch it, and that is Paul's 
> > problem. The Microsoft patch, and the virus definition have been out 
> > for almost a year now. I just cleaned a system a couple weeks ago
with
> > the worm. I
> spent
> > about four hours cleaning and updating the computer, and that was on 
> > DSL. There were over 25 Meg of Microsoft updates, and about the same 
> > for the
> anti
> > virus. There really is no excuse for this. So to you and all on the
> > list:
> >
> > Install all Microsoft critical updates weekly, and update your anti 
> > virus
> at
> > least once a week. Run a virus scan weekly, and most can be
automated,
> > so there is no excuse. Install a firewall, or at least use the one 
> > that came with XP. It's better than nothing. Also use Lavasoft
Adaware
> > for spyware. It's free.
> >
> > There is also another option. Pay someone like me or my buddy a
couple
> > hundred bucks to clean up your mess. The system I did was for my 
> > cousin
> and
> > she was informed the next one won't be free. For more info on the
worm
> check
> > out:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/security/incident/blast.mspx
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jeff Allen
> > Arvada, Colorado USA
> >
> > http://oldengine.org/members/allen/
> > http://frapa.us/
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bill Dickerson" <bill at antique-engines.com>
> > To: "'The SEL email discussion list'"
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 1:32 PM
> > Subject: RE: [SEL] O.T. Need Computer Advice
> >
> >
> > > Paul, without a little time I can't tell you what it IS, but can 
> > > tell you it's pretty much NOT a virus. It's amazing how many 
> > > computer woes get blamed on viruses now days. It's usually easier 
> > > than finding the real cause. Most computer ills are due to file 
> > > corruption, file conflicts, ill-behaved software, spyware or 
> > > hardware malfunctions. A real computer virus doesn't typically 
> > > "disconnect". If NAV says you don't have a virus, you don't have 
> > > one. They aren't
> magic
> > > and don't escape detection that easily.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > > (former anti-virus administrator for a very large financial
company,
> > > and former Symantec support volunteer who just turned down a 
> > > Symantec position in California)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Paul 
> > > Maples
> > > Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 8:58 PM
> > > To: Stationary Engine List
> > > Subject: [SEL] O.T. Need Computer Advice
> > >
> > >
> > > Folks I am having a problem again that I had about a month ago and 
> > > it is really frustrating. I connect to my ISP and check my e-mail 
> > > but the minute
> > I
> > > try to use Internet Explorer it will disconnect my computer from
the
> > > ISP
> > and
> > > I have to dial back up to get on line again. The last time I 
> > > completely
> > done
> > > a Complete System Recovery, reformatted my hard drive and it has 
> > > worked until now and it is starting it all over. I have Norton 
> > > Internet Security
> > > (Professional) and I ran it and there are no virus's indicated. I 
> > > have dumped every program on the PC except the absolute ones I
have
> > > to have.
> I
> > > don't even want to think that I have to do another system recovery 
> > > and
> > start
> > > all over again.
> > >
> > > Any ides from you computer guru's? I am on dial up, not DSL. I am
> > wondering
> > > if DSL would help solve some of these issues.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
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