[SEL] Springfield models

[Curt]

Dave,
As promised....from Grayson's book:

"As the fast moving 1870's drew to its close, those wishing to enter the 
manufacture of IC engines found themselves scrambling either to invent a 
machine that would not run afoul of existing patents or sales 
territories or else acquire the rights to an existing engine. That is 
the position in which an instrument maker in Magdeburg, Germany, founds 
itself in in 1878. When it failed to procure a license to manufacture 
Deutz engines, the firm of Buss and Sombart turned instead to de 
Bisschop. Little is known today about the firm's principals other than 
Buss was the financier while Charles M. Sombart was the more technically 
minder partner. Apparently, however, the men acquired rights to make and 
sell the engine in the United States, where the patent was registered in 
Buss's name. US operation was established at 215 Centre St in New York 
City. Production, however, seems to have taken place in Hartford, 
Connecticut, where the company was listed during 1884 and again in 
1886-1888. Mr. Sombart was a highly capable engineer. He made some 
important  improvements to the engine including a patented throttle that 
mixed illuminating gas and air. Also, as the de Bisschop operating 
principle limited the engine to its modest outputs, Sombart developed a 
new two-cycle engine in 1882....."

Hope this is useful and it does seem to answer your question if the 
Sombart engine was an American made Bisschop engine.
Curt Holland
Gastonia, NC

Curt wrote:

> Dave,
> I really can't answer any questions about this engine. The base does 
> have Hartford, Conn cast into it and that is a city in our state of 
> Connecticut. Someone there told me this was the engine featured in 
> Greyson's Beautiful Engines book.
> I could look up some information about it this evening to see if it 
> was a Bischop made under license......something about that sound 
> familiar.....
> Curt
>
> Dave Croft wrote:
>
>> Hi Curt, Was the Sombart an American made Bischop?
>> I know of only one privately owned Bischop & a few in
>> Museums,
>> Dave Croft
>> Warrington
>> England
>> http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curt" <curt at imc-group.com>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 3:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Springfield models
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>>  
>>
>>> Tim, Don,
>>> Here are a couple of pictures of the one brought to Coolsprings this 
>>> summer. One of those opportunities of a life time to get to see one!
>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Coolsprings2004/P6180130.JPG 
>>>
>>> and 
>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/Coolsprings2004/P6180131.JPG 
>>>
>>> Curt Holland
>>> Gastonia, NC
>>>
>>> SIEFKER, DONALD L wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>> TIm,
>>>> Sombart (Bisschop).
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     
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