[SEL] John Deere 1 1/2hp E ignitor

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	I worked on a 3HP for friend a few weeks ago. The ignitor on this one
was mag fired, it was held open by the outer spring, the trip lever
pushed the catch which wound a closing spring and closed the points
until it tripped and then fired. On this ignitor the closing spring
would work while turning over slowly, at cranking speed the points
would never close, the closing spring had to be wound tighter. It
wouldn't pop turning it over with a drill before repairs, started
first pull after. I don't see how this ignitor would work if the
points were closed, it would fire as soon as the trip lever started to
open them.

	------------------------------------From: "Judge Tommy Turner" 
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Sent: 01-Aug-2017 18:47:34 +0000
Subject: Re: [SEL] John Deere 1 1/2hp E ignitor

 Tom is correct. If using a mag the points should stay closed and only
open
 when the ignitor snaps. If using a battery and coil the points should
 always remain open and only close when the ignitor is tripped.

 Tommy Turner

 -----Original Message-----
 From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
 [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Winland
 Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 2:23 PM
 To: The SEL email discussion list
 Subject: Re: [SEL] John Deere 1 1/2hp E ignitor

 The point stay closed when using the mag and open when using a
battery and
 coil

 Tom Winland
 Aka GasEngineTom
 Sent from my iPhone

 > On Aug 1, 2017, at 1:13 PM, Ed Herreid  wrote:
 > 
 > Curt,
 > 
 > 
 > Pretty sure the points should be open. When the igniter is tripped
it
 closes quickly and then stays open. Possibly one of the springs in
 reversed? If it is closed all the time the coil/mag is going to get
hot.
 > 
 > 
 > Also common is the wiper on the mag part getting oily and slicked
up and
 not making good contact. Every once in a while I have to remove the
little
 screw cap on top and take a pencil eraser with a rag covering and
clean it
 up. Check the little contact on the end of the spring and clean it up
if
 needed too.
 > 
 > 
 > Ed Herreid
 > 
 > 
 > ________________________________
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 >  on behalf of 
 > cgandree at mchsi.com 
 > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 10:51 PM
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 > Cc: cgandree at aol.com
 > Subject: [SEL] John Deere 1 1/2hp E ignitor
 > 
 > Ok guys I just rebuilt my magnito on my JD 1 1/2 E and charged it 
 > properly. After putting it back on the engine and making sure that 
 > the gears were at the marks as before I attempted to start the
engine 
 > but no go. I removed the ignitor and cleaned and oiled everything
so the
 it would trip properly. Tried to turn it over but still no go. My
question
 is, should the points on this ignitor be open or closed? Mine are
closed.
 Sure would likes some words of wisdom from the group.
 > Thank you in advance.
 > Curt Andree
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