[SEL] Quick question

ATIS yostsw at atis.net
Fri Nov 13 09:39:35 PST 2015


Thanks Arnie.  Your point is well taken on tort reform.  It has become abundantly clear to me that the system is designed to provide very few obstacles to full employment of lawyers.

Spencer Yost

> On Nov 13, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
>   Spencer,
> 
> 
> 
>   Man I feel your pain.  This use of the court system to abuse and
>   harass totally sucks.  Locally, we get that
> 
>   sort of abusive rubbish lawsuits from neighbors who have moved in or
>   built near our gun range.  Claims of
> 
>   noise pollution, safety, etc.  The gun range has been there for decades
>   before these crybabies came on
> 
>   the scene.
> 
> 
> 
>   Large corporations have used the same tactic against locals protesting
>   some aspect of their operation.
> 
>   Sue the little guy (the protester) to get him to shut up and go away or
>   bankrupt him with the same effect.
> 
> 
> 
>   Tort reform is the solution, wherein the loser in a lawsuit pays the
>   legal fees of the winner.  It would virtually
> 
>   eliminate the sort of bullshit lawsuits that are being filed against
>   you.
> 
> 
> 
>   Talk to your state and national legislators and see what is currently
>   happening with regard to tort reform.
> 
> 
> 
>   GOOD LUCK!  And when you get that pig operation up and running, I hope
>   the MacMansions are
> 
>   downwind.  Might also be nice to spread the pig manure on the fields
>   adjacent to the
> 
>   MacMansion properties.  Gotta keep those fields fertile.
> 
> 
> 
>   See ya,  Arnie
>   Nov 12, 2015 10:10:03 PM, sel at lists.stationary-engine.com wrote:
> 
>     Just a quick question: I have a completely legal farm: Properly
>     zoned, above the minimum size, and part of an agricultural district.
>     I am constantly getting sued by the mac-mansion neighbors around me.
>     They always lose and in fact the last time the judge dismissed "with
>     prejudice". I assumed that would keep anyone from suing but it
>     doesn't. It just means I win but I still have to spend money to
>     defend it. In fact, I was served yet again with a lawsuit early this
>     week.
>     In short: There does not seem to be a disincentive built into the
>     system to prevent suits - even if I keep winning. My legal team -
>     who keeps winning so I am biased towards listening - says filing a
>     suit against the neighbors for frivolous lawsuits would probably
>     fail. They say the court requires "malice and callous disregard for
>     the merits" for that to stick and it's a high bar to prove. The fact
>     they won't take that on contingency sort of proves to me they
>     believe what they say. A second opinion I sought supported their
>     position.
>     Anyone else who is farming on this list that is running up against
>     this? Just curious. The legal bills are becoming onerous and
>     everyone I talk to locally has not seen this.
>     Spencer Yost
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