It's fine with me if these go to the metal recycler but I want to make sure this message has made it to the SEL first. One is a 4 cylinder V Wisconsin that has been it ting outside for years and is in bad shape. The other is a 2 cylinder missing pistons. I think Wisconsin. If no one takes for free, I'll scrap em. Glenn Wilson Endicott, NY www.WilsonsWarbler.com