From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sun May 18 17:26:46 2014
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 10:26:46 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Campbelltown Steam Museum
Message-ID: <CF9F8CE6.6156%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

Some pics from the rally on the weekend. Engine numbers were down a bit but
the weather was great. Some pics at:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/cammay14/index.htm


Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From rob at rustyiron.com  Sun May 18 18:04:08 2014
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 18:04:08 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Campbelltown Steam Museum
In-Reply-To: <CF9F8CE6.6156%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CF9F8CE6.6156%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <61F1F0C1-91E1-4914-8EB2-A593CAFCEF35@rustyiron.com>


On May 18, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Patrick Livingstone <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com> wrote:

> Some pics from the rally on the weekend. Engine numbers were down a bit but
> the weather was great. Some pics at:



Nice, Patrick. Is that your Orion? It looks like it?s set up next to a big R&V. I?m not familiar with Orion. Aussie? 




From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sun May 18 21:00:48 2014
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 14:00:48 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Campbelltown Steam Museum
In-Reply-To: <61F1F0C1-91E1-4914-8EB2-A593CAFCEF35@rustyiron.com>
References: <CF9F8CE6.6156%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
	<61F1F0C1-91E1-4914-8EB2-A593CAFCEF35@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <CF9FBEDA.6160%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

Hi Rob,
The Orion is a marine engine made in New Zealand. The one at the rally
belongs to a fellow club member and he has done a great job with it.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





On 19/05/14 11:04 AM, "Rob Skinner" <rob at rustyiron.com> wrote:

>
>On May 18, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Patrick Livingstone
><patrick.livingstone at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Some pics from the rally on the weekend. Engine numbers were down a bit
>>but
>> the weather was great. Some pics at:
>
>
>
>Nice, Patrick. Is that your Orion? It looks like it?s set up next to a
>big R&V. I?m not familiar with Orion. Aussie?
>
>
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From Frank at lbpinc.com  Mon May 19 06:35:55 2014
From: Frank at lbpinc.com (Frank DeWitt LBP)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 09:35:55 -0400
Subject: [SEL] National Pike May show. - Brownsville PA
In-Reply-To: <1395286031_93687@mail2>
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	<1395286031_93687@mail2>
Message-ID: <537A08BB.4010001@lbpinc.com>

I just returned from a visit to National Pike. Good show. As advertised, 
the emphases is on digging equipment. This included a steam shovel and 
some mining equipment that was interesting as I don't see them in my 
part of the country . Also, it was a delight to see the big 3 cylinder 
Fairbanks generator running. I last saw it In Long Lake NY in 1999.

BTW National Pike was part of a 6 state trip breaking in our new car. 
Fun trip.

Frank



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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Mon May 19 20:26:22 2014
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 20:26:22 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold engine show.
Message-ID: <AABKZXU6XAVR75HJ@smtpout01.vgs.untd.com>

This past weekend was the annual California Gold engine show. 47
California built engines, with names like; Samson, Lorimer, Morton,
Union, Western, FriscoStandard, Atlas Imperial, West Coast, Daniel Best,
Gade/Pacific, Holt, Golden Gate (the featured engine), Oriental,
Schilling & Sons, Sterling, J.L. Hicks, Hicks marine, Stearns,
Commercial, and Zenith.
Pictures at:  http://tinyurl.com/lfb7pjw

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
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From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com  Mon May 19 22:13:51 2014
From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 05:13:51 +0000
Subject: [SEL] California Gold engine show.
In-Reply-To: <AABKZXU6XAVR75HJ@smtpout01.vgs.untd.com>
References: <AABKZXU6XAVR75HJ@smtpout01.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <DUB126-W742022A050B4277C2B34AFD03D0@phx.gbl>

Thanks for the lovely photos, some really different engines there.  John
 
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
> Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 20:26:22 -0700
> From: rdhaskell at juno.com
> Subject: [SEL] California Gold engine show.
> 
> This past weekend was the annual California Gold engine show. 47
> California built engines, with names like; Samson, Lorimer, Morton,
> Union, Western, FriscoStandard, Atlas Imperial, West Coast, Daniel Best,
> Gade/Pacific, Holt, Golden Gate (the featured engine), Oriental,
> Schilling & Sons, Sterling, J.L. Hicks, Hicks marine, Stearns,
> Commercial, and Zenith.
> Pictures at:  http://tinyurl.com/lfb7pjw
> 
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California USA
> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
> ____________________________________________________________
> Do THIS before eating carbs &#40;every time&#41;
> 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sun May 25 05:44:40 2014
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 22:44:40 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
Message-ID: <1BBD0C19758048C59A95EC06A8708BB8@PeterPC>

Can anyone State side tell me why eBay is pushing sellers to post internationally via their Kentucky distribution center??
I have had three sellers on radios I want to buy forcing me to go ?Priority International Post? via their Kentucky Center, this is sometimes thre to four times to price of ?First Class International Post? and takes the same time to get to Australia.
Is eBay is cahoots with USPS ??? $$$$$
What is happening.
The seller will not just pack and send to direct to me, someone is jerking their chain.
Peter

From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sun May 25 06:32:03 2014
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 23:32:03 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
References: <1BBD0C19758048C59A95EC06A8708BB8@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <DEEF8AB4C1AA42A8B9F432305B00E22A@Edd>

http://pages.ebay.com/shipping/globalshipping/buyer-tnc.html#paymentsplit
Have a look here mate.This is what they call global shipping and if it is 
offered in the sellers description you are trapped by ebay to use this.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; "ATIS" 
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:44 PM
Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs


> Can anyone State side tell me why eBay is pushing sellers to post 
> internationally via their Kentucky distribution center??
> I have had three sellers on radios I want to buy forcing me to go 
> ?Priority International Post? via their Kentucky Center, this is sometimes 
> thre to four times to price of ?First Class International Post? and takes 
> the same time to get to Australia.
> Is eBay is cahoots with USPS ??? $$$$$
> What is happening.
> The seller will not just pack and send to direct to me, someone is jerking 
> their chain.
> Peter
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sun May 25 06:52:29 2014
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 23:52:29 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
In-Reply-To: <DEEF8AB4C1AA42A8B9F432305B00E22A@Edd>
References: <1BBD0C19758048C59A95EC06A8708BB8@PeterPC>
	<DEEF8AB4C1AA42A8B9F432305B00E22A@Edd>
Message-ID: <101EFF14E4324999BC81CA386BB0DF25@PeterPC>

Hi Eddy
They are just introducing a middle so they can skim from the top, the parcel 
still arrives via USPS, gives you the shits. There is a way the sellers can 
opt out, but it is all too hard for them.
Peter

http://pages.ebay.com/shipping/globalshipping/buyer-tnc.html#paymentsplit
Have a look here mate.This is what they call global shipping and if it is
offered in the sellers description you are trapped by ebay to use this.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; "ATIS"
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:44 PM
Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs


> Can anyone State side tell me why eBay is pushing sellers to post
> internationally via their Kentucky distribution center??
> I have had three sellers on radios I want to buy forcing me to go
> ?Priority International Post? via their Kentucky Center, this is sometimes
> thre to four times to price of ?First Class International Post? and takes
> the same time to get to Australia.
> Is eBay is cahoots with USPS ??? $$$$$
> What is happening.
> The seller will not just pack and send to direct to me, someone is jerking
> their chain.
> Peter
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From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sun May 25 07:11:17 2014
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 00:11:17 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
References: <1BBD0C19758048C59A95EC06A8708BB8@PeterPC><DEEF8AB4C1AA42A8B9F432305B00E22A@Edd>
	<101EFF14E4324999BC81CA386BB0DF25@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <37E2A6C6E6BE4418BD03705C762891A5@Edd>

The only way I have got around it is to get the seller to send me his email 
address and then pay direct to there paypal account after they tell you a 
total with a new postal rate but ebay stops them from sending you an 
invoice.Not real safe but has worked for me.I have had to use the global 
shipping many times now and having a po box they wont accept it and have to 
give a street address and the parcel comes by courier not by post.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs


> Hi Eddy
> They are just introducing a middle so they can skim from the top, the 
> parcel
> still arrives via USPS, gives you the shits. There is a way the sellers 
> can
> opt out, but it is all too hard for them.
> Peter
>
> http://pages.ebay.com/shipping/globalshipping/buyer-tnc.html#paymentsplit
> Have a look here mate.This is what they call global shipping and if it is
> offered in the sellers description you are trapped by ebay to use this.
> EDD PAYNE
> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
> Australia
> 2852
> Phone:0263742387
> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
> edsengns
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
> To: "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; "ATIS"
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:44 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
>
>
>> Can anyone State side tell me why eBay is pushing sellers to post
>> internationally via their Kentucky distribution center??
>> I have had three sellers on radios I want to buy forcing me to go
>> ?Priority International Post? via their Kentucky Center, this is 
>> sometimes
>> thre to four times to price of ?First Class International Post? and takes
>> the same time to get to Australia.
>> Is eBay is cahoots with USPS ??? $$$$$
>> What is happening.
>> The seller will not just pack and send to direct to me, someone is 
>> jerking
>> their chain.
>> Peter
>> _______________________________________________
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>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
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From b2 at chooka.net  Sun May 25 09:35:42 2014
From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 16:35:42 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
In-Reply-To: <37E2A6C6E6BE4418BD03705C762891A5@Edd>
References: <1BBD0C19758048C59A95EC06A8708BB8@PeterPC><DEEF8AB4C1AA42A8B9F432305B00E22A@Edd>
	<101EFF14E4324999BC81CA386BB0DF25@PeterPC>
	<37E2A6C6E6BE4418BD03705C762891A5@Edd>
Message-ID: <75206fb35c2945c28e4795954069a61c@BL2PR08MB178.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>

As an active USA seller I can say it's overly complicated and intimidating to ship to a foreign address, thanks to some combination of our own postal system and international customs requirements.  But if you stick with it for a bit it becomes manageable.  

I, too, saw these eBay offers to manage my international shipments and hadn't checked the offer out yet.  Sounds like it's not a good deal for anybody but eBay.  But they've got a ready market of folks out there who don't want the hassle of international shipping, presumably folks who without the eBay service wouldn't offer their goods for international sale.

When I first started eBay selling the USPS international rates were reasonable and I had a fair percentage of international sales.  About 5 years ago USPS restructured their rates and the international ones took a big increase.  That pretty much killed my international sales.  We are concerned about our balance of trade and then make it impossible for small exporters to do business...typical government logic.

Edd has the right answer.  I'll work with guys like you anytime to get around the system.  Even when I do get burned occasionally with a crooked seller or buyer.

Bill Brueck
Pine Island, MN, USA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Edd Payne
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 9:11 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs

The only way I have got around it is to get the seller to send me his email address and then pay direct to there paypal account after they tell you a total with a new postal rate but ebay stops them from sending you an invoice.Not real safe but has worked for me.I have had to use the global shipping many times now and having a po box they wont accept it and have to give a street address and the parcel comes by courier not by post.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs


> Hi Eddy
> They are just introducing a middle so they can skim from the top, the 
> parcel still arrives via USPS, gives you the shits. There is a way the 
> sellers can opt out, but it is all too hard for them.
> Peter
>
> http://pages.ebay.com/shipping/globalshipping/buyer-tnc.html#paymentsp
> lit Have a look here mate.This is what they call global shipping and 
> if it is offered in the sellers description you are trapped by ebay to 
> use this.
> EDD PAYNE
> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
> Australia
> 2852
> Phone:0263742387
> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
> edsengns
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
> To: "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; "ATIS"
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:44 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
>
>
>> Can anyone State side tell me why eBay is pushing sellers to post 
>> internationally via their Kentucky distribution center??
>> I have had three sellers on radios I want to buy forcing me to go 
>> ?Priority International Post? via their Kentucky Center, this is 
>> sometimes thre to four times to price of ?First Class International 
>> Post? and takes the same time to get to Australia.
>> Is eBay is cahoots with USPS ??? $$$$$ What is happening.
>> The seller will not just pack and send to direct to me, someone is 
>> jerking their chain.
>> Peter
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
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From Jim at hardmanfamily.net  Sun May 25 12:25:37 2014
From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net (Jim Hardman)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 15:25:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
In-Reply-To: <75206fb35c2945c28e4795954069a61c@BL2PR08MB178.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1BBD0C19758048C59A95EC06A8708BB8@PeterPC><DEEF8AB4C1AA42A8B9F432305B00E22A@Edd><101EFF14E4324999BC81CA386BB0DF25@PeterPC><37E2A6C6E6BE4418BD03705C762891A5@Edd>
	<75206fb35c2945c28e4795954069a61c@BL2PR08MB178.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <9277341739E44E28BB58BC6421129595@JamesDesktop>

Our family occasionally "unloads" extra stuff on eBay and dealing with 
international shipping can be a hassle.  "How much to ship to Italy?"... 
"How much to ship to Singapore?"

I go to the Post Office to get a quote especially when insurance is desired. 
Then I write the guy and often get a reply like "That's too much, how much 
First Class International?"

The final packing and filling out customs forms is almost the easy part. 
But for a $35 item, it's not worth the trouble.  And PayPal gets into the 
act... it's 3% for receipts in dollars and normally 4% for other currencies.

When an international bidder wins an item, upon notification of payment, the 
seller ships to the Pitney-Bowes hub in Erlanger, KY.  And the seller is NOT 
told what the "Global Shipping Program" costs the buyer.  The seller just 
gets reimbursed the postage to Kentucky.

>From a seller's standpoint, this is a good program.  The buyer ponies up a 
lot extra for the re-sending.

If I know the buyer, if I have dealt with him before or if he's a brother in 
bronze bearings and hot oil, I ship directly.  But not all the animals in 
the forest are cuddly.  Friends have shared horror stories.

And so I sell "US only" and let eBay take care of the occasional 
international buyer.

By the way... eBay has again upped their fees, the combined "take" by eBay 
and PayPal is now about 14 percent of the hammer price.  If we can't make 
$40 to $50 on an item, it would be better to put the thing in somebody's 
yard sale.  Or give it away.

eBay takes time.  Photographing, uploading to web storage space (we like 
eBay's new uploading system, but self-hosted pictures have greater impact), 
writing descriptions, pre-weighing packages, answering questions, packing up 
for shipment and keeping records for taxes owed Uncle Sam... well, I can 
understand why some friends no longer choose to sell on eBay.  It's still 
the best for us, but don't write it off as "easy and no-hassle".  That is 
just not so.

Like everything else, there's a learning curve and efficiency improves with 
experience.  We don't do enough to become efficient, but it's a blessing to 
move stuff out and make room.

Hope to see some of you at Coolspring... and on this Memorial Day, we all 
owe a debt of thanks to those who serve in uniform.

Jim in Vermont


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Brueck" <b2 at chooka.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs


> As an active USA seller I can say it's overly complicated and intimidating 
> to ship to a foreign address, thanks to some combination of our own postal 
> system and international customs requirements.  But if you stick with it 
> for a bit it becomes manageable.
>
> I, too, saw these eBay offers to manage my international shipments and 
> hadn't checked the offer out yet.  Sounds like it's not a good deal for 
> anybody but eBay.  But they've got a ready market of folks out there who 
> don't want the hassle of international shipping, presumably folks who 
> without the eBay service wouldn't offer their goods for international 
> sale.
>
> When I first started eBay selling the USPS international rates were 
> reasonable and I had a fair percentage of international sales.  About 5 
> years ago USPS restructured their rates and the international ones took a 
> big increase.  That pretty much killed my international sales.  We are 
> concerned about our balance of trade and then make it impossible for small 
> exporters to do business...typical government logic.
>
> Edd has the right answer.  I'll work with guys like you anytime to get 
> around the system.  Even when I do get burned occasionally with a crooked 
> seller or buyer.
>
> Bill Brueck
> Pine Island, MN, USA



From 1oldengin at gmail.com  Sun May 25 18:03:49 2014
From: 1oldengin at gmail.com (Leroy Clark)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 21:03:49 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
Message-ID: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>

I need some Good stuff for my igniter in the Sparta. Any help here? Leroy
Clark


From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sun May 25 18:50:17 2014
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 11:50:17 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2FD55C7BE8E143A5A670CCCA7BF49046@regpc>

I assume you are referring to the working parts of the unit?
I have used white teflon with success in the past.
A number of my engines, now with new owners, were repaired this way, along 
with a lot of model units that I have built.
I replaced the mica tubes and insulating washers, etc. with it and it never 
gave any trouble from heat or 'current leak'.
To my knowledge, they are all still running ok.
I hope this helps
Reg
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leroy Clark" <1oldengin at gmail.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:03 AM
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material


>I need some Good stuff for my igniter in the Sparta. Any help here? Leroy
> Clark
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From rotigel at me.com  Sun May 25 19:08:41 2014
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 22:08:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
In-Reply-To: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <06B3B7FC-6693-476A-890B-21636B4B401F@me.com>

What HP Leroy? What is the OD of the gasket you need?
	Dave

On May 25, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Leroy Clark wrote:

> I need some Good stuff for my igniter in the Sparta. Any help here? Leroy
> Clark
> _______________________________________________SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From 1oldengin at gmail.com  Sun May 25 19:48:27 2014
From: 1oldengin at gmail.com (Leroy Clark)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 22:48:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
In-Reply-To: <06B3B7FC-6693-476A-890B-21636B4B401F@me.com>
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<06B3B7FC-6693-476A-890B-21636B4B401F@me.com>
Message-ID: <CA+B8urTCK20xqLLN1r-8fy_BotB1WyKO_kuPb9+Pn30miTMXiA@mail.gmail.com>

4.5 inch it goes on my 4hp that I just got running. Going to mount her on a
transport and show her off. Before I lost,blew it out, the gasket I slowed
her to 20- to 22 revs between fires.
On May 25, 2014 10:21 PM, "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com> wrote:

> What HP Leroy? What is the OD of the gasket you need?
>         Dave
>
> On May 25, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Leroy Clark wrote:
>
> > I need some Good stuff for my igniter in the Sparta. Any help here? Leroy
> > Clark
> > _______________________________________________SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sun May 25 19:54:52 2014
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 12:54:52 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
In-Reply-To: <2FD55C7BE8E143A5A670CCCA7BF49046@regpc>
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<2FD55C7BE8E143A5A670CCCA7BF49046@regpc>
Message-ID: <CFA8E9B9.6201%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

I sadly have to back Reg here :)
A few of my engines have teflon in the ignitors and they have given no
trouble. Some of the engines have been running for over 10 years using
teflon in the ignitors.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html



On 26/05/14 11:50 AM, "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au> wrote:

>I assume you are referring to the working parts of the unit?
>I have used white teflon with success in the past.
>A number of my engines, now with new owners, were repaired this way,
>along 
>with a lot of model units that I have built.
>I replaced the mica tubes and insulating washers, etc. with it and it
>never 
>gave any trouble from heat or 'current leak'.
>To my knowledge, they are all still running ok.
>I hope this helps
>Reg
>Reg & Marg Ingold
>Newcastle NSW Australia
>randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Leroy Clark" <1oldengin at gmail.com>
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:03 AM
>Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
>
>
>>I need some Good stuff for my igniter in the Sparta. Any help here? Leroy
>> Clark
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sun May 25 20:10:05 2014
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 13:10:05 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
In-Reply-To: <CA+B8urTCK20xqLLN1r-8fy_BotB1WyKO_kuPb9+Pn30miTMXiA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<06B3B7FC-6693-476A-890B-21636B4B401F@me.com>
	<CA+B8urTCK20xqLLN1r-8fy_BotB1WyKO_kuPb9+Pn30miTMXiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CFA8ED5B.6207%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

For the gasket that goes under the ignitor where it goes into the engine I
have had some success with rubber O rings.
They usually last for about 4 to 5 years.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





On 26/05/14 12:48 PM, "Leroy Clark" <1oldengin at gmail.com> wrote:

>4.5 inch it goes on my 4hp that I just got running. Going to mount her on
>a
>transport and show her off. Before I lost,blew it out, the gasket I slowed
>her to 20- to 22 revs between fires.
>On May 25, 2014 10:21 PM, "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com> wrote:
>
>> What HP Leroy? What is the OD of the gasket you need?
>>         Dave
>>
>> On May 25, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Leroy Clark wrote:
>>
>> > I need some Good stuff for my igniter in the Sparta. Any help here?
>>Leroy
>> > Clark
>> > _______________________________________________SEL mailing list
>> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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From rotigel at me.com  Sun May 25 20:19:13 2014
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 23:19:13 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
In-Reply-To: <CFA8E9B9.6201%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<2FD55C7BE8E143A5A670CCCA7BF49046@regpc>
	<CFA8E9B9.6201%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <72FCA624-A798-48C3-B304-19C6FC702AC5@me.com>

I have never heard that part of an ignitor (mica or teflon) referred to as a "gasket" before. Is that what it is normally called in OZ?
	Dave

On May 25, 2014, at 10:54 PM, Patrick Livingstone wrote:

> I sadly have to back Reg here :)
> A few of my engines have teflon in the ignitors and they have given no
> trouble. Some of the engines have been running for over 10 years using
> teflon in the ignitors.
> Patrick
> 
> Patrick M Livingstone
> 0418 692013
> Earlwood NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> 
> 
> 
> On 26/05/14 11:50 AM, "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au> wrote:
> 
>> I assume you are referring to the working parts of the unit?
>> I have used white teflon with success in the past.
>> A number of my engines, now with new owners, were repaired this way,
>> along 
>> with a lot of model units that I have built.
>> I replaced the mica tubes and insulating washers, etc. with it and it
>> never 
>> gave any trouble from heat or 'current leak'.
>> To my knowledge, they are all still running ok.
>> I hope this helps
>> Reg
>> Reg & Marg Ingold
>> Newcastle NSW Australia
>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Leroy Clark" <1oldengin at gmail.com>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:03 AM
>> Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
>> 
>> 
>>> I need some Good stuff for my igniter in the Sparta. Any help here? Leroy
>>> Clark
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> 
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From ozengine at iinet.net.au  Sun May 25 21:39:51 2014
From: ozengine at iinet.net.au (Kerry)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 14:39:51 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
In-Reply-To: <72FCA624-A798-48C3-B304-19C6FC702AC5@me.com>
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>	<2FD55C7BE8E143A5A670CCCA7BF49046@regpc>	<CFA8E9B9.6201%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
	<72FCA624-A798-48C3-B304-19C6FC702AC5@me.com>
Message-ID: <5382C597.6000407@iinet.net.au>

G'Day Dave
NO
The old bloke and all that

Kerry
On 26/05/2014 1:19 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:
> I have never heard that part of an ignitor (mica or teflon) referred to as a "gasket" before. Is that what it is normally called in OZ?
> 	Dave
>
> On May 25, 2014, at 10:54 PM, Patrick Livingstone wrote:
>
>>
>> On 26/05/14 11:50 AM, "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>> I assume you are referring to the working parts of the unit?
>>> I have used white teflon with success in the past.
>>> A number of my engines, now with new owners, were repaired this way,
>>> along
>>>

-- 
Kerry Morris
Tangye Engine Registrar
0400421133
Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/



From rob at rustyiron.com  Sun May 25 23:36:38 2014
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 23:36:38 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
In-Reply-To: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DC2CC63C-AD3A-4174-9447-3C80E29F6EE7@rustyiron.com>


On May 25, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Leroy Clark <1oldengin at gmail.com> wrote:

> I need some Good stuff for my igniter in the Sparta. Any help here? Leroy
> Clark




http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Gasket-9614-Compressed-Material/dp/B000BW8W5W

Order today, have it tomorrow. 




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sun May 25 23:58:52 2014
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 16:58:52 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com><2FD55C7BE8E143A5A670CCCA7BF49046@regpc>
	<CFA8E9B9.6201%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <269736990EE642F0B48553FA9876E69F@regpc>

Why 'sadly'??
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Igniter gasket material


>I sadly have to back Reg here :)
> A few of my engines have teflon in the ignitors and they have given no
> trouble. Some of the engines have been running for over 10 years using
> teflon in the ignitors.
> Patrick
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> 0418 692013
> Earlwood NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
>
> On 26/05/14 11:50 AM, "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au> wrote:
>
>>I assume you are referring to the working parts of the unit?
>>I have used white teflon with success in the past.
>>A number of my engines, now with new owners, were repaired this way,
>>along
>>with a lot of model units that I have built.
>>I replaced the mica tubes and insulating washers, etc. with it and it
>>never
>>gave any trouble from heat or 'current leak'.
>>To my knowledge, they are all still running ok.
>>I hope this helps
>>Reg
>>Reg & Marg Ingold
>>Newcastle NSW Australia
>>randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Leroy Clark" <1oldengin at gmail.com>
>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:03 AM
>>Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
>>
>>
>>>I need some Good stuff for my igniter in the Sparta. Any help here? Leroy
>>> Clark
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Mon May 26 00:02:31 2014
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 17:02:31 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>	<2FD55C7BE8E143A5A670CCCA7BF49046@regpc>	<CFA8E9B9.6201%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com><72FCA624-A798-48C3-B304-19C6FC702AC5@me.com>
	<5382C597.6000407@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <9D4262547226427880DC3017780EA981@regpc>

OK.
I will return to dribbling in the corner.
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry" <ozengine at iinet.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Igniter gasket material


> G'Day Dave
> NO
> The old bloke and all that
>
> Kerry
> On 26/05/2014 1:19 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:
>> I have never heard that part of an ignitor (mica or teflon) referred to 
>> as a "gasket" before. Is that what it is normally called in OZ?
>> Dave
>>
>> On May 25, 2014, at 10:54 PM, Patrick Livingstone wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 26/05/14 11:50 AM, "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I assume you are referring to the working parts of the unit?
>>>> I have used white teflon with success in the past.
>>>> A number of my engines, now with new owners, were repaired this way,
>>>> along
>>>>
>
> -- 
> Kerry Morris
> Tangye Engine Registrar
> 0400421133
> Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From plowe at exemail.com.au  Mon May 26 02:39:32 2014
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 19:39:32 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
In-Reply-To: <75206fb35c2945c28e4795954069a61c@BL2PR08MB178.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1BBD0C19758048C59A95EC06A8708BB8@PeterPC><DEEF8AB4C1AA42A8B9F432305B00E22A@Edd><101EFF14E4324999BC81CA386BB0DF25@PeterPC><37E2A6C6E6BE4418BD03705C762891A5@Edd>
	<75206fb35c2945c28e4795954069a61c@BL2PR08MB178.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <544D2577FCD643F49BC4FCB623573291@PeterPC>

There is a way to stop the auto Global Shipping Program.
(My eBay summary page)
account > site preferences > shipping preferences > Offer the Global Shipping Program > edit > no

This then frees up the postage section to allow First Class International Post.
Why would you guys want to get slugged more by a darn middle man, Pitney Bowes. 
I wanted an item recently from the USA, the cost of the item was $20, they wanted $87 postage via Priority International, it would have gone into a flat post bag. Something is seriously wrong.
I guess I will be taking up the offer of friends here to purchase a few items on the odd occasion. 
Peter, Oz







As an active USA seller I can say it's overly complicated and intimidating to ship to a foreign address, thanks to some combination of our own postal system and international customs requirements.  But if you stick with it for a bit it becomes manageable.  

I, too, saw these eBay offers to manage my international shipments and hadn't checked the offer out yet.  Sounds like it's not a good deal for anybody but eBay.  But they've got a ready market of folks out there who don't want the hassle of international shipping, presumably folks who without the eBay service wouldn't offer their goods for international sale.

When I first started eBay selling the USPS international rates were reasonable and I had a fair percentage of international sales.  About 5 years ago USPS restructured their rates and the international ones took a big increase.  That pretty much killed my international sales.  We are concerned about our balance of trade and then make it impossible for small exporters to do business...typical government logic.

Edd has the right answer.  I'll work with guys like you anytime to get around the system.  Even when I do get burned occasionally with a crooked seller or buyer.

Bill Brueck
Pine Island, MN, USA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Edd Payne
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 9:11 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs

The only way I have got around it is to get the seller to send me his email address and then pay direct to there paypal account after they tell you a total with a new postal rate but ebay stops them from sending you an invoice.Not real safe but has worked for me.I have had to use the global shipping many times now and having a po box they wont accept it and have to give a street address and the parcel comes by courier not by post.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs


> Hi Eddy
> They are just introducing a middle so they can skim from the top, the 
> parcel still arrives via USPS, gives you the shits. There is a way the 
> sellers can opt out, but it is all too hard for them.
> Peter
>
> http://pages.ebay.com/shipping/globalshipping/buyer-tnc.html#paymentsp
> lit Have a look here mate.This is what they call global shipping and 
> if it is offered in the sellers description you are trapped by ebay to 
> use this.
> EDD PAYNE
> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
> Australia
> 2852
> Phone:0263742387
> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
> edsengns
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
> To: "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; "ATIS"
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:44 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
>
>
>> Can anyone State side tell me why eBay is pushing sellers to post 
>> internationally via their Kentucky distribution center??
>> I have had three sellers on radios I want to buy forcing me to go 
>> ?Priority International Post? via their Kentucky Center, this is 
>> sometimes thre to four times to price of ?First Class International 
>> Post? and takes the same time to get to Australia.
>> Is eBay is cahoots with USPS ??? $$$$$ What is happening.
>> The seller will not just pack and send to direct to me, someone is 
>> jerking their chain.
>> Peter
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
>
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From solarrog at pacbell.net  Mon May 26 08:25:27 2014
From: solarrog at pacbell.net (ROGER DIRUSCIO)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 08:25:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
In-Reply-To: <544D2577FCD643F49BC4FCB623573291@PeterPC>
References: <1BBD0C19758048C59A95EC06A8708BB8@PeterPC><DEEF8AB4C1AA42A8B9F432305B00E22A@Edd><101EFF14E4324999BC81CA386BB0DF25@PeterPC><37E2A6C6E6BE4418BD03705C762891A5@Edd>	<75206fb35c2945c28e4795954069a61c@BL2PR08MB178.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
	<544D2577FCD643F49BC4FCB623573291@PeterPC> 
Message-ID: <1401117927.51261.YahooMailNeo@web185403.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I sell on Ebay, When you list an item you just remove the check that activates this program, If you use eBays label printing program it prints the customs labels for you. The only difference to the seller is you need to use the plastic pouch that you stick on the box with 2 copies. I just stick them in my mail box and away they go. 16 years on ebay
?
Roger DiRuscio, Real Estate Broker. GRI. Sales since 1977
The Realty Experts 510-226-2414  Fremont, California 94539
DRE #00615513


On Monday, May 26, 2014 3:00 AM, Peter Lowe <plowe at exemail.com.au> wrote:
 

>
>
>There is a way to stop the auto Global Shipping Program.
>(My eBay summary page)
>account > site preferences > shipping preferences > Offer the Global Shipping Program > edit > no
>
>This then frees up the postage section to allow First Class International Post.
>Why would you guys want to get slugged more by a
 darn middle man, Pitney Bowes. 
>I wanted an item recently from the USA, the cost of the item was $20, they wanted $87 postage via Priority International, it would have gone into a flat post bag. Something is seriously wrong.
>I guess I will be taking up the offer of friends here to purchase a few items on the odd occasion. 
>Peter, Oz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>As an active USA seller I can say it's overly complicated and intimidating to ship to a foreign address, thanks to some combination of our own postal system and international customs requirements.? But if you stick with it for a bit it becomes manageable.? 
>
>I, too, saw these eBay offers to manage my international shipments and hadn't checked the offer out yet.? Sounds like it's not a good deal for anybody but eBay.? But they've got a ready market of folks out there who don't want the hassle of international shipping, presumably folks who without the eBay
 service wouldn't offer their goods for international sale.
>
>When I first started eBay selling the USPS international rates were reasonable and I had a fair percentage of international sales.? About 5 years ago USPS restructured their rates and the international ones took a big increase.? That pretty much killed my international sales.? We are concerned about our balance of trade and then make it impossible for small exporters to do business...typical government logic.
>
>Edd has the right answer.? I'll work with guys like you anytime to get around the system.? Even when I do get burned occasionally with a crooked seller or buyer.
>
>Bill Brueck
>Pine Island, MN, USA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Edd Payne
>Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 9:11 AM
>To: The SEL email discussion list
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
>
>The only way I have got around it is to get the seller to send me his email address and then pay direct to there paypal account after they tell you a total with a new postal rate but ebay stops them from sending you an invoice.Not real safe but has worked for me.I have had to use the global shipping many times now and having a po box they wont accept it and have to give a street address and the parcel comes by courier not by post.
>EDD PAYNE
>PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
>Australia
>2852
>Phone:0263742387
>edsengns at optusnet.com.au
>edsengns
>----- Original
 Message -----
>From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 11:52 PM
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
>
>
>> Hi Eddy
>> They are just introducing a middle so they can skim from the top, the 
>> parcel still arrives via USPS, gives you the shits. There is a way the 
>> sellers can opt out, but it is all too hard for them.
>> Peter
>>
>> http://pages.ebay.com/shipping/globalshipping/buyer-tnc.html#paymentsp
>> lit Have a look here mate.This is what they call global shipping and 
>> if it is offered in the
 sellers description you are trapped by ebay to 
>> use this.
>> EDD PAYNE
>> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
>> Australia
>> 2852
>> Phone:0263742387
>> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
>> edsengns
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
>> To: "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; "ATIS"
>> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:44 PM
>> Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
>>
>>
>>> Can anyone State side tell me why eBay
 is pushing sellers to post 
>>> internationally via their Kentucky distribution center??
>>> I have had three sellers on radios I want to buy forcing me to go 
>>> ?Priority International Post? via their Kentucky Center, this is 
>>> sometimes thre to four times to price of ?First Class International 
>>> Post? and takes the same time to get to Australia.
>>> Is eBay is cahoots with USPS ??? $$$$$ What is happening.
>>> The seller will not just pack and send to direct to me, someone is 
>>> jerking their chain.
>>> Peter
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>
>>
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Mon May 26 20:30:49 2014
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 13:30:49 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
In-Reply-To: <269736990EE642F0B48553FA9876E69F@regpc>
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<2FD55C7BE8E143A5A670CCCA7BF49046@regpc>
	<CFA8E9B9.6201%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
	<269736990EE642F0B48553FA9876E69F@regpc>
Message-ID: <CFAA43E0.621C%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

Think how bored you would be if we suddenly all agreed with you Reg?  :)

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





On 26/05/14 4:58 PM, "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au> wrote:

>Why 'sadly'??
>Reg & Marg Ingold
>Newcastle NSW Australia
>randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Mon May 26 22:08:37 2014
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 15:08:37 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com><2FD55C7BE8E143A5A670CCCA7BF49046@regpc><CFA8E9B9.6201%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com><269736990EE642F0B48553FA9876E69F@regpc>
	<CFAA43E0.621C%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <113677700C8D4877B01826A6F57E6F45@regpc>

Dunno! It aint ever happened yet!!
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Igniter gasket material


> Think how bored you would be if we suddenly all agreed with you Reg?  :)
> 
> Patrick M Livingstone
> 0418 692013
> Earlwood NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 26/05/14 4:58 PM, "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au> wrote:
> 
>>Why 'sadly'??
>>Reg & Marg Ingold
>>Newcastle NSW Australia
>>randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> 
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sun May 18 17:26:46 2014
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 10:26:46 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Campbelltown Steam Museum
Message-ID: <CF9F8CE6.6156%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

Some pics from the rally on the weekend. Engine numbers were down a bit but
the weather was great. Some pics at:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/cammay14/index.htm


Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From rob at rustyiron.com  Sun May 18 18:04:08 2014
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 18:04:08 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Campbelltown Steam Museum
In-Reply-To: <CF9F8CE6.6156%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CF9F8CE6.6156%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <61F1F0C1-91E1-4914-8EB2-A593CAFCEF35@rustyiron.com>


On May 18, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Patrick Livingstone <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com> wrote:

> Some pics from the rally on the weekend. Engine numbers were down a bit but
> the weather was great. Some pics at:



Nice, Patrick. Is that your Orion? It looks like it?s set up next to a big R&V. I?m not familiar with Orion. Aussie? 




From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sun May 18 21:00:48 2014
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 14:00:48 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Campbelltown Steam Museum
In-Reply-To: <61F1F0C1-91E1-4914-8EB2-A593CAFCEF35@rustyiron.com>
References: <CF9F8CE6.6156%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
	<61F1F0C1-91E1-4914-8EB2-A593CAFCEF35@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <CF9FBEDA.6160%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

Hi Rob,
The Orion is a marine engine made in New Zealand. The one at the rally
belongs to a fellow club member and he has done a great job with it.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





On 19/05/14 11:04 AM, "Rob Skinner" <rob at rustyiron.com> wrote:

>
>On May 18, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Patrick Livingstone
><patrick.livingstone at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Some pics from the rally on the weekend. Engine numbers were down a bit
>>but
>> the weather was great. Some pics at:
>
>
>
>Nice, Patrick. Is that your Orion? It looks like it?s set up next to a
>big R&V. I?m not familiar with Orion. Aussie?
>
>
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From Frank at lbpinc.com  Mon May 19 06:35:55 2014
From: Frank at lbpinc.com (Frank DeWitt LBP)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 09:35:55 -0400
Subject: [SEL] National Pike May show. - Brownsville PA
In-Reply-To: <1395286031_93687@mail2>
References: <215A372B0F534D6AB4199DD7A31862B7@edlaptop>	<532A4101.3020706@lbpinc.com>
	<1395286031_93687@mail2>
Message-ID: <537A08BB.4010001@lbpinc.com>

I just returned from a visit to National Pike. Good show. As advertised, 
the emphases is on digging equipment. This included a steam shovel and 
some mining equipment that was interesting as I don't see them in my 
part of the country . Also, it was a delight to see the big 3 cylinder 
Fairbanks generator running. I last saw it In Long Lake NY in 1999.

BTW National Pike was part of a 6 state trip breaking in our new car. 
Fun trip.

Frank



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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Mon May 19 20:26:22 2014
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 20:26:22 -0700
Subject: [SEL] California Gold engine show.
Message-ID: <AABKZXU6XAVR75HJ@smtpout01.vgs.untd.com>

This past weekend was the annual California Gold engine show. 47
California built engines, with names like; Samson, Lorimer, Morton,
Union, Western, FriscoStandard, Atlas Imperial, West Coast, Daniel Best,
Gade/Pacific, Holt, Golden Gate (the featured engine), Oriental,
Schilling & Sons, Sterling, J.L. Hicks, Hicks marine, Stearns,
Commercial, and Zenith.
Pictures at:  http://tinyurl.com/lfb7pjw

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
____________________________________________________________
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From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com  Mon May 19 22:13:51 2014
From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 05:13:51 +0000
Subject: [SEL] California Gold engine show.
In-Reply-To: <AABKZXU6XAVR75HJ@smtpout01.vgs.untd.com>
References: <AABKZXU6XAVR75HJ@smtpout01.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <DUB126-W742022A050B4277C2B34AFD03D0@phx.gbl>

Thanks for the lovely photos, some really different engines there.  John
 
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
> Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 20:26:22 -0700
> From: rdhaskell at juno.com
> Subject: [SEL] California Gold engine show.
> 
> This past weekend was the annual California Gold engine show. 47
> California built engines, with names like; Samson, Lorimer, Morton,
> Union, Western, FriscoStandard, Atlas Imperial, West Coast, Daniel Best,
> Gade/Pacific, Holt, Golden Gate (the featured engine), Oriental,
> Schilling & Sons, Sterling, J.L. Hicks, Hicks marine, Stearns,
> Commercial, and Zenith.
> Pictures at:  http://tinyurl.com/lfb7pjw
> 
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California USA
> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
> ____________________________________________________________
> Do THIS before eating carbs &#40;every time&#41;
> 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/537acb96b6014b957d14st01vuc
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sun May 25 05:44:40 2014
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 22:44:40 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
Message-ID: <1BBD0C19758048C59A95EC06A8708BB8@PeterPC>

Can anyone State side tell me why eBay is pushing sellers to post internationally via their Kentucky distribution center??
I have had three sellers on radios I want to buy forcing me to go ?Priority International Post? via their Kentucky Center, this is sometimes thre to four times to price of ?First Class International Post? and takes the same time to get to Australia.
Is eBay is cahoots with USPS ??? $$$$$
What is happening.
The seller will not just pack and send to direct to me, someone is jerking their chain.
Peter

From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sun May 25 06:32:03 2014
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 23:32:03 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
References: <1BBD0C19758048C59A95EC06A8708BB8@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <DEEF8AB4C1AA42A8B9F432305B00E22A@Edd>

http://pages.ebay.com/shipping/globalshipping/buyer-tnc.html#paymentsplit
Have a look here mate.This is what they call global shipping and if it is 
offered in the sellers description you are trapped by ebay to use this.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; "ATIS" 
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:44 PM
Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs


> Can anyone State side tell me why eBay is pushing sellers to post 
> internationally via their Kentucky distribution center??
> I have had three sellers on radios I want to buy forcing me to go 
> ?Priority International Post? via their Kentucky Center, this is sometimes 
> thre to four times to price of ?First Class International Post? and takes 
> the same time to get to Australia.
> Is eBay is cahoots with USPS ??? $$$$$
> What is happening.
> The seller will not just pack and send to direct to me, someone is jerking 
> their chain.
> Peter
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sun May 25 06:52:29 2014
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 23:52:29 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
In-Reply-To: <DEEF8AB4C1AA42A8B9F432305B00E22A@Edd>
References: <1BBD0C19758048C59A95EC06A8708BB8@PeterPC>
	<DEEF8AB4C1AA42A8B9F432305B00E22A@Edd>
Message-ID: <101EFF14E4324999BC81CA386BB0DF25@PeterPC>

Hi Eddy
They are just introducing a middle so they can skim from the top, the parcel 
still arrives via USPS, gives you the shits. There is a way the sellers can 
opt out, but it is all too hard for them.
Peter

http://pages.ebay.com/shipping/globalshipping/buyer-tnc.html#paymentsplit
Have a look here mate.This is what they call global shipping and if it is
offered in the sellers description you are trapped by ebay to use this.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; "ATIS"
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:44 PM
Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs


> Can anyone State side tell me why eBay is pushing sellers to post
> internationally via their Kentucky distribution center??
> I have had three sellers on radios I want to buy forcing me to go
> ?Priority International Post? via their Kentucky Center, this is sometimes
> thre to four times to price of ?First Class International Post? and takes
> the same time to get to Australia.
> Is eBay is cahoots with USPS ??? $$$$$
> What is happening.
> The seller will not just pack and send to direct to me, someone is jerking
> their chain.
> Peter
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From edsengns at optusnet.com.au  Sun May 25 07:11:17 2014
From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 00:11:17 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
References: <1BBD0C19758048C59A95EC06A8708BB8@PeterPC><DEEF8AB4C1AA42A8B9F432305B00E22A@Edd>
	<101EFF14E4324999BC81CA386BB0DF25@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <37E2A6C6E6BE4418BD03705C762891A5@Edd>

The only way I have got around it is to get the seller to send me his email 
address and then pay direct to there paypal account after they tell you a 
total with a new postal rate but ebay stops them from sending you an 
invoice.Not real safe but has worked for me.I have had to use the global 
shipping many times now and having a po box they wont accept it and have to 
give a street address and the parcel comes by courier not by post.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs


> Hi Eddy
> They are just introducing a middle so they can skim from the top, the 
> parcel
> still arrives via USPS, gives you the shits. There is a way the sellers 
> can
> opt out, but it is all too hard for them.
> Peter
>
> http://pages.ebay.com/shipping/globalshipping/buyer-tnc.html#paymentsplit
> Have a look here mate.This is what they call global shipping and if it is
> offered in the sellers description you are trapped by ebay to use this.
> EDD PAYNE
> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
> Australia
> 2852
> Phone:0263742387
> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
> edsengns
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
> To: "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; "ATIS"
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:44 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
>
>
>> Can anyone State side tell me why eBay is pushing sellers to post
>> internationally via their Kentucky distribution center??
>> I have had three sellers on radios I want to buy forcing me to go
>> ?Priority International Post? via their Kentucky Center, this is 
>> sometimes
>> thre to four times to price of ?First Class International Post? and takes
>> the same time to get to Australia.
>> Is eBay is cahoots with USPS ??? $$$$$
>> What is happening.
>> The seller will not just pack and send to direct to me, someone is 
>> jerking
>> their chain.
>> Peter
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
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From b2 at chooka.net  Sun May 25 09:35:42 2014
From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 16:35:42 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
In-Reply-To: <37E2A6C6E6BE4418BD03705C762891A5@Edd>
References: <1BBD0C19758048C59A95EC06A8708BB8@PeterPC><DEEF8AB4C1AA42A8B9F432305B00E22A@Edd>
	<101EFF14E4324999BC81CA386BB0DF25@PeterPC>
	<37E2A6C6E6BE4418BD03705C762891A5@Edd>
Message-ID: <75206fb35c2945c28e4795954069a61c@BL2PR08MB178.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>

As an active USA seller I can say it's overly complicated and intimidating to ship to a foreign address, thanks to some combination of our own postal system and international customs requirements.  But if you stick with it for a bit it becomes manageable.  

I, too, saw these eBay offers to manage my international shipments and hadn't checked the offer out yet.  Sounds like it's not a good deal for anybody but eBay.  But they've got a ready market of folks out there who don't want the hassle of international shipping, presumably folks who without the eBay service wouldn't offer their goods for international sale.

When I first started eBay selling the USPS international rates were reasonable and I had a fair percentage of international sales.  About 5 years ago USPS restructured their rates and the international ones took a big increase.  That pretty much killed my international sales.  We are concerned about our balance of trade and then make it impossible for small exporters to do business...typical government logic.

Edd has the right answer.  I'll work with guys like you anytime to get around the system.  Even when I do get burned occasionally with a crooked seller or buyer.

Bill Brueck
Pine Island, MN, USA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Edd Payne
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 9:11 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs

The only way I have got around it is to get the seller to send me his email address and then pay direct to there paypal account after they tell you a total with a new postal rate but ebay stops them from sending you an invoice.Not real safe but has worked for me.I have had to use the global shipping many times now and having a po box they wont accept it and have to give a street address and the parcel comes by courier not by post.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs


> Hi Eddy
> They are just introducing a middle so they can skim from the top, the 
> parcel still arrives via USPS, gives you the shits. There is a way the 
> sellers can opt out, but it is all too hard for them.
> Peter
>
> http://pages.ebay.com/shipping/globalshipping/buyer-tnc.html#paymentsp
> lit Have a look here mate.This is what they call global shipping and 
> if it is offered in the sellers description you are trapped by ebay to 
> use this.
> EDD PAYNE
> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
> Australia
> 2852
> Phone:0263742387
> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
> edsengns
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
> To: "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; "ATIS"
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:44 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
>
>
>> Can anyone State side tell me why eBay is pushing sellers to post 
>> internationally via their Kentucky distribution center??
>> I have had three sellers on radios I want to buy forcing me to go 
>> ?Priority International Post? via their Kentucky Center, this is 
>> sometimes thre to four times to price of ?First Class International 
>> Post? and takes the same time to get to Australia.
>> Is eBay is cahoots with USPS ??? $$$$$ What is happening.
>> The seller will not just pack and send to direct to me, someone is 
>> jerking their chain.
>> Peter
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From Jim at hardmanfamily.net  Sun May 25 12:25:37 2014
From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net (Jim Hardman)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 15:25:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
In-Reply-To: <75206fb35c2945c28e4795954069a61c@BL2PR08MB178.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1BBD0C19758048C59A95EC06A8708BB8@PeterPC><DEEF8AB4C1AA42A8B9F432305B00E22A@Edd><101EFF14E4324999BC81CA386BB0DF25@PeterPC><37E2A6C6E6BE4418BD03705C762891A5@Edd>
	<75206fb35c2945c28e4795954069a61c@BL2PR08MB178.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <9277341739E44E28BB58BC6421129595@JamesDesktop>

Our family occasionally "unloads" extra stuff on eBay and dealing with 
international shipping can be a hassle.  "How much to ship to Italy?"... 
"How much to ship to Singapore?"

I go to the Post Office to get a quote especially when insurance is desired. 
Then I write the guy and often get a reply like "That's too much, how much 
First Class International?"

The final packing and filling out customs forms is almost the easy part. 
But for a $35 item, it's not worth the trouble.  And PayPal gets into the 
act... it's 3% for receipts in dollars and normally 4% for other currencies.

When an international bidder wins an item, upon notification of payment, the 
seller ships to the Pitney-Bowes hub in Erlanger, KY.  And the seller is NOT 
told what the "Global Shipping Program" costs the buyer.  The seller just 
gets reimbursed the postage to Kentucky.

>From a seller's standpoint, this is a good program.  The buyer ponies up a 
lot extra for the re-sending.

If I know the buyer, if I have dealt with him before or if he's a brother in 
bronze bearings and hot oil, I ship directly.  But not all the animals in 
the forest are cuddly.  Friends have shared horror stories.

And so I sell "US only" and let eBay take care of the occasional 
international buyer.

By the way... eBay has again upped their fees, the combined "take" by eBay 
and PayPal is now about 14 percent of the hammer price.  If we can't make 
$40 to $50 on an item, it would be better to put the thing in somebody's 
yard sale.  Or give it away.

eBay takes time.  Photographing, uploading to web storage space (we like 
eBay's new uploading system, but self-hosted pictures have greater impact), 
writing descriptions, pre-weighing packages, answering questions, packing up 
for shipment and keeping records for taxes owed Uncle Sam... well, I can 
understand why some friends no longer choose to sell on eBay.  It's still 
the best for us, but don't write it off as "easy and no-hassle".  That is 
just not so.

Like everything else, there's a learning curve and efficiency improves with 
experience.  We don't do enough to become efficient, but it's a blessing to 
move stuff out and make room.

Hope to see some of you at Coolspring... and on this Memorial Day, we all 
owe a debt of thanks to those who serve in uniform.

Jim in Vermont


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Brueck" <b2 at chooka.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs


> As an active USA seller I can say it's overly complicated and intimidating 
> to ship to a foreign address, thanks to some combination of our own postal 
> system and international customs requirements.  But if you stick with it 
> for a bit it becomes manageable.
>
> I, too, saw these eBay offers to manage my international shipments and 
> hadn't checked the offer out yet.  Sounds like it's not a good deal for 
> anybody but eBay.  But they've got a ready market of folks out there who 
> don't want the hassle of international shipping, presumably folks who 
> without the eBay service wouldn't offer their goods for international 
> sale.
>
> When I first started eBay selling the USPS international rates were 
> reasonable and I had a fair percentage of international sales.  About 5 
> years ago USPS restructured their rates and the international ones took a 
> big increase.  That pretty much killed my international sales.  We are 
> concerned about our balance of trade and then make it impossible for small 
> exporters to do business...typical government logic.
>
> Edd has the right answer.  I'll work with guys like you anytime to get 
> around the system.  Even when I do get burned occasionally with a crooked 
> seller or buyer.
>
> Bill Brueck
> Pine Island, MN, USA



From 1oldengin at gmail.com  Sun May 25 18:03:49 2014
From: 1oldengin at gmail.com (Leroy Clark)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 21:03:49 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
Message-ID: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>

I need some Good stuff for my igniter in the Sparta. Any help here? Leroy
Clark


From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sun May 25 18:50:17 2014
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 11:50:17 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2FD55C7BE8E143A5A670CCCA7BF49046@regpc>

I assume you are referring to the working parts of the unit?
I have used white teflon with success in the past.
A number of my engines, now with new owners, were repaired this way, along 
with a lot of model units that I have built.
I replaced the mica tubes and insulating washers, etc. with it and it never 
gave any trouble from heat or 'current leak'.
To my knowledge, they are all still running ok.
I hope this helps
Reg
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leroy Clark" <1oldengin at gmail.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:03 AM
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material


>I need some Good stuff for my igniter in the Sparta. Any help here? Leroy
> Clark
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From rotigel at me.com  Sun May 25 19:08:41 2014
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 22:08:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
In-Reply-To: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <06B3B7FC-6693-476A-890B-21636B4B401F@me.com>

What HP Leroy? What is the OD of the gasket you need?
	Dave

On May 25, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Leroy Clark wrote:

> I need some Good stuff for my igniter in the Sparta. Any help here? Leroy
> Clark
> _______________________________________________SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From 1oldengin at gmail.com  Sun May 25 19:48:27 2014
From: 1oldengin at gmail.com (Leroy Clark)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 22:48:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
In-Reply-To: <06B3B7FC-6693-476A-890B-21636B4B401F@me.com>
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<06B3B7FC-6693-476A-890B-21636B4B401F@me.com>
Message-ID: <CA+B8urTCK20xqLLN1r-8fy_BotB1WyKO_kuPb9+Pn30miTMXiA@mail.gmail.com>

4.5 inch it goes on my 4hp that I just got running. Going to mount her on a
transport and show her off. Before I lost,blew it out, the gasket I slowed
her to 20- to 22 revs between fires.
On May 25, 2014 10:21 PM, "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com> wrote:

> What HP Leroy? What is the OD of the gasket you need?
>         Dave
>
> On May 25, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Leroy Clark wrote:
>
> > I need some Good stuff for my igniter in the Sparta. Any help here? Leroy
> > Clark
> > _______________________________________________SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>


From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sun May 25 19:54:52 2014
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 12:54:52 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
In-Reply-To: <2FD55C7BE8E143A5A670CCCA7BF49046@regpc>
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<2FD55C7BE8E143A5A670CCCA7BF49046@regpc>
Message-ID: <CFA8E9B9.6201%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

I sadly have to back Reg here :)
A few of my engines have teflon in the ignitors and they have given no
trouble. Some of the engines have been running for over 10 years using
teflon in the ignitors.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html



On 26/05/14 11:50 AM, "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au> wrote:

>I assume you are referring to the working parts of the unit?
>I have used white teflon with success in the past.
>A number of my engines, now with new owners, were repaired this way,
>along 
>with a lot of model units that I have built.
>I replaced the mica tubes and insulating washers, etc. with it and it
>never 
>gave any trouble from heat or 'current leak'.
>To my knowledge, they are all still running ok.
>I hope this helps
>Reg
>Reg & Marg Ingold
>Newcastle NSW Australia
>randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Leroy Clark" <1oldengin at gmail.com>
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:03 AM
>Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
>
>
>>I need some Good stuff for my igniter in the Sparta. Any help here? Leroy
>> Clark
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sun May 25 20:10:05 2014
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 13:10:05 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
In-Reply-To: <CA+B8urTCK20xqLLN1r-8fy_BotB1WyKO_kuPb9+Pn30miTMXiA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<06B3B7FC-6693-476A-890B-21636B4B401F@me.com>
	<CA+B8urTCK20xqLLN1r-8fy_BotB1WyKO_kuPb9+Pn30miTMXiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CFA8ED5B.6207%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

For the gasket that goes under the ignitor where it goes into the engine I
have had some success with rubber O rings.
They usually last for about 4 to 5 years.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





On 26/05/14 12:48 PM, "Leroy Clark" <1oldengin at gmail.com> wrote:

>4.5 inch it goes on my 4hp that I just got running. Going to mount her on
>a
>transport and show her off. Before I lost,blew it out, the gasket I slowed
>her to 20- to 22 revs between fires.
>On May 25, 2014 10:21 PM, "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com> wrote:
>
>> What HP Leroy? What is the OD of the gasket you need?
>>         Dave
>>
>> On May 25, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Leroy Clark wrote:
>>
>> > I need some Good stuff for my igniter in the Sparta. Any help here?
>>Leroy
>> > Clark
>> > _______________________________________________SEL mailing list
>> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
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From rotigel at me.com  Sun May 25 20:19:13 2014
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 23:19:13 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
In-Reply-To: <CFA8E9B9.6201%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<2FD55C7BE8E143A5A670CCCA7BF49046@regpc>
	<CFA8E9B9.6201%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <72FCA624-A798-48C3-B304-19C6FC702AC5@me.com>

I have never heard that part of an ignitor (mica or teflon) referred to as a "gasket" before. Is that what it is normally called in OZ?
	Dave

On May 25, 2014, at 10:54 PM, Patrick Livingstone wrote:

> I sadly have to back Reg here :)
> A few of my engines have teflon in the ignitors and they have given no
> trouble. Some of the engines have been running for over 10 years using
> teflon in the ignitors.
> Patrick
> 
> Patrick M Livingstone
> 0418 692013
> Earlwood NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> 
> 
> 
> On 26/05/14 11:50 AM, "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au> wrote:
> 
>> I assume you are referring to the working parts of the unit?
>> I have used white teflon with success in the past.
>> A number of my engines, now with new owners, were repaired this way,
>> along 
>> with a lot of model units that I have built.
>> I replaced the mica tubes and insulating washers, etc. with it and it
>> never 
>> gave any trouble from heat or 'current leak'.
>> To my knowledge, they are all still running ok.
>> I hope this helps
>> Reg
>> Reg & Marg Ingold
>> Newcastle NSW Australia
>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Leroy Clark" <1oldengin at gmail.com>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:03 AM
>> Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
>> 
>> 
>>> I need some Good stuff for my igniter in the Sparta. Any help here? Leroy
>>> Clark
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> 
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From ozengine at iinet.net.au  Sun May 25 21:39:51 2014
From: ozengine at iinet.net.au (Kerry)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 14:39:51 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
In-Reply-To: <72FCA624-A798-48C3-B304-19C6FC702AC5@me.com>
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>	<2FD55C7BE8E143A5A670CCCA7BF49046@regpc>	<CFA8E9B9.6201%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
	<72FCA624-A798-48C3-B304-19C6FC702AC5@me.com>
Message-ID: <5382C597.6000407@iinet.net.au>

G'Day Dave
NO
The old bloke and all that

Kerry
On 26/05/2014 1:19 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:
> I have never heard that part of an ignitor (mica or teflon) referred to as a "gasket" before. Is that what it is normally called in OZ?
> 	Dave
>
> On May 25, 2014, at 10:54 PM, Patrick Livingstone wrote:
>
>>
>> On 26/05/14 11:50 AM, "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>> I assume you are referring to the working parts of the unit?
>>> I have used white teflon with success in the past.
>>> A number of my engines, now with new owners, were repaired this way,
>>> along
>>>

-- 
Kerry Morris
Tangye Engine Registrar
0400421133
Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/



From rob at rustyiron.com  Sun May 25 23:36:38 2014
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 23:36:38 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
In-Reply-To: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DC2CC63C-AD3A-4174-9447-3C80E29F6EE7@rustyiron.com>


On May 25, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Leroy Clark <1oldengin at gmail.com> wrote:

> I need some Good stuff for my igniter in the Sparta. Any help here? Leroy
> Clark




http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Gasket-9614-Compressed-Material/dp/B000BW8W5W

Order today, have it tomorrow. 




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sun May 25 23:58:52 2014
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 16:58:52 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com><2FD55C7BE8E143A5A670CCCA7BF49046@regpc>
	<CFA8E9B9.6201%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <269736990EE642F0B48553FA9876E69F@regpc>

Why 'sadly'??
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Igniter gasket material


>I sadly have to back Reg here :)
> A few of my engines have teflon in the ignitors and they have given no
> trouble. Some of the engines have been running for over 10 years using
> teflon in the ignitors.
> Patrick
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> 0418 692013
> Earlwood NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
>
> On 26/05/14 11:50 AM, "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au> wrote:
>
>>I assume you are referring to the working parts of the unit?
>>I have used white teflon with success in the past.
>>A number of my engines, now with new owners, were repaired this way,
>>along
>>with a lot of model units that I have built.
>>I replaced the mica tubes and insulating washers, etc. with it and it
>>never
>>gave any trouble from heat or 'current leak'.
>>To my knowledge, they are all still running ok.
>>I hope this helps
>>Reg
>>Reg & Marg Ingold
>>Newcastle NSW Australia
>>randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Leroy Clark" <1oldengin at gmail.com>
>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:03 AM
>>Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
>>
>>
>>>I need some Good stuff for my igniter in the Sparta. Any help here? Leroy
>>> Clark
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Mon May 26 00:02:31 2014
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 17:02:31 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>	<2FD55C7BE8E143A5A670CCCA7BF49046@regpc>	<CFA8E9B9.6201%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com><72FCA624-A798-48C3-B304-19C6FC702AC5@me.com>
	<5382C597.6000407@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <9D4262547226427880DC3017780EA981@regpc>

OK.
I will return to dribbling in the corner.
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry" <ozengine at iinet.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Igniter gasket material


> G'Day Dave
> NO
> The old bloke and all that
>
> Kerry
> On 26/05/2014 1:19 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:
>> I have never heard that part of an ignitor (mica or teflon) referred to 
>> as a "gasket" before. Is that what it is normally called in OZ?
>> Dave
>>
>> On May 25, 2014, at 10:54 PM, Patrick Livingstone wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 26/05/14 11:50 AM, "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I assume you are referring to the working parts of the unit?
>>>> I have used white teflon with success in the past.
>>>> A number of my engines, now with new owners, were repaired this way,
>>>> along
>>>>
>
> -- 
> Kerry Morris
> Tangye Engine Registrar
> 0400421133
> Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From plowe at exemail.com.au  Mon May 26 02:39:32 2014
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 19:39:32 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
In-Reply-To: <75206fb35c2945c28e4795954069a61c@BL2PR08MB178.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1BBD0C19758048C59A95EC06A8708BB8@PeterPC><DEEF8AB4C1AA42A8B9F432305B00E22A@Edd><101EFF14E4324999BC81CA386BB0DF25@PeterPC><37E2A6C6E6BE4418BD03705C762891A5@Edd>
	<75206fb35c2945c28e4795954069a61c@BL2PR08MB178.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <544D2577FCD643F49BC4FCB623573291@PeterPC>

There is a way to stop the auto Global Shipping Program.
(My eBay summary page)
account > site preferences > shipping preferences > Offer the Global Shipping Program > edit > no

This then frees up the postage section to allow First Class International Post.
Why would you guys want to get slugged more by a darn middle man, Pitney Bowes. 
I wanted an item recently from the USA, the cost of the item was $20, they wanted $87 postage via Priority International, it would have gone into a flat post bag. Something is seriously wrong.
I guess I will be taking up the offer of friends here to purchase a few items on the odd occasion. 
Peter, Oz







As an active USA seller I can say it's overly complicated and intimidating to ship to a foreign address, thanks to some combination of our own postal system and international customs requirements.  But if you stick with it for a bit it becomes manageable.  

I, too, saw these eBay offers to manage my international shipments and hadn't checked the offer out yet.  Sounds like it's not a good deal for anybody but eBay.  But they've got a ready market of folks out there who don't want the hassle of international shipping, presumably folks who without the eBay service wouldn't offer their goods for international sale.

When I first started eBay selling the USPS international rates were reasonable and I had a fair percentage of international sales.  About 5 years ago USPS restructured their rates and the international ones took a big increase.  That pretty much killed my international sales.  We are concerned about our balance of trade and then make it impossible for small exporters to do business...typical government logic.

Edd has the right answer.  I'll work with guys like you anytime to get around the system.  Even when I do get burned occasionally with a crooked seller or buyer.

Bill Brueck
Pine Island, MN, USA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Edd Payne
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 9:11 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs

The only way I have got around it is to get the seller to send me his email address and then pay direct to there paypal account after they tell you a total with a new postal rate but ebay stops them from sending you an invoice.Not real safe but has worked for me.I have had to use the global shipping many times now and having a po box they wont accept it and have to give a street address and the parcel comes by courier not by post.
EDD PAYNE
PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
Australia
2852
Phone:0263742387
edsengns at optusnet.com.au
edsengns
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs


> Hi Eddy
> They are just introducing a middle so they can skim from the top, the 
> parcel still arrives via USPS, gives you the shits. There is a way the 
> sellers can opt out, but it is all too hard for them.
> Peter
>
> http://pages.ebay.com/shipping/globalshipping/buyer-tnc.html#paymentsp
> lit Have a look here mate.This is what they call global shipping and 
> if it is offered in the sellers description you are trapped by ebay to 
> use this.
> EDD PAYNE
> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
> Australia
> 2852
> Phone:0263742387
> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
> edsengns
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
> To: "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; "ATIS"
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:44 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
>
>
>> Can anyone State side tell me why eBay is pushing sellers to post 
>> internationally via their Kentucky distribution center??
>> I have had three sellers on radios I want to buy forcing me to go 
>> ?Priority International Post? via their Kentucky Center, this is 
>> sometimes thre to four times to price of ?First Class International 
>> Post? and takes the same time to get to Australia.
>> Is eBay is cahoots with USPS ??? $$$$$ What is happening.
>> The seller will not just pack and send to direct to me, someone is 
>> jerking their chain.
>> Peter
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From solarrog at pacbell.net  Mon May 26 08:25:27 2014
From: solarrog at pacbell.net (ROGER DIRUSCIO)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 08:25:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
In-Reply-To: <544D2577FCD643F49BC4FCB623573291@PeterPC>
References: <1BBD0C19758048C59A95EC06A8708BB8@PeterPC><DEEF8AB4C1AA42A8B9F432305B00E22A@Edd><101EFF14E4324999BC81CA386BB0DF25@PeterPC><37E2A6C6E6BE4418BD03705C762891A5@Edd>	<75206fb35c2945c28e4795954069a61c@BL2PR08MB178.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
	<544D2577FCD643F49BC4FCB623573291@PeterPC> 
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I sell on Ebay, When you list an item you just remove the check that activates this program, If you use eBays label printing program it prints the customs labels for you. The only difference to the seller is you need to use the plastic pouch that you stick on the box with 2 copies. I just stick them in my mail box and away they go. 16 years on ebay
?
Roger DiRuscio, Real Estate Broker. GRI. Sales since 1977
The Realty Experts 510-226-2414  Fremont, California 94539
DRE #00615513


On Monday, May 26, 2014 3:00 AM, Peter Lowe <plowe at exemail.com.au> wrote:
 

>
>
>There is a way to stop the auto Global Shipping Program.
>(My eBay summary page)
>account > site preferences > shipping preferences > Offer the Global Shipping Program > edit > no
>
>This then frees up the postage section to allow First Class International Post.
>Why would you guys want to get slugged more by a
 darn middle man, Pitney Bowes. 
>I wanted an item recently from the USA, the cost of the item was $20, they wanted $87 postage via Priority International, it would have gone into a flat post bag. Something is seriously wrong.
>I guess I will be taking up the offer of friends here to purchase a few items on the odd occasion. 
>Peter, Oz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>As an active USA seller I can say it's overly complicated and intimidating to ship to a foreign address, thanks to some combination of our own postal system and international customs requirements.? But if you stick with it for a bit it becomes manageable.? 
>
>I, too, saw these eBay offers to manage my international shipments and hadn't checked the offer out yet.? Sounds like it's not a good deal for anybody but eBay.? But they've got a ready market of folks out there who don't want the hassle of international shipping, presumably folks who without the eBay
 service wouldn't offer their goods for international sale.
>
>When I first started eBay selling the USPS international rates were reasonable and I had a fair percentage of international sales.? About 5 years ago USPS restructured their rates and the international ones took a big increase.? That pretty much killed my international sales.? We are concerned about our balance of trade and then make it impossible for small exporters to do business...typical government logic.
>
>Edd has the right answer.? I'll work with guys like you anytime to get around the system.? Even when I do get burned occasionally with a crooked seller or buyer.
>
>Bill Brueck
>Pine Island, MN, USA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Edd Payne
>Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 9:11 AM
>To: The SEL email discussion list
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
>
>The only way I have got around it is to get the seller to send me his email address and then pay direct to there paypal account after they tell you a total with a new postal rate but ebay stops them from sending you an invoice.Not real safe but has worked for me.I have had to use the global shipping many times now and having a po box they wont accept it and have to give a street address and the parcel comes by courier not by post.
>EDD PAYNE
>PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
>Australia
>2852
>Phone:0263742387
>edsengns at optusnet.com.au
>edsengns
>----- Original
 Message -----
>From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 11:52 PM
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
>
>
>> Hi Eddy
>> They are just introducing a middle so they can skim from the top, the 
>> parcel still arrives via USPS, gives you the shits. There is a way the 
>> sellers can opt out, but it is all too hard for them.
>> Peter
>>
>> http://pages.ebay.com/shipping/globalshipping/buyer-tnc.html#paymentsp
>> lit Have a look here mate.This is what they call global shipping and 
>> if it is offered in the
 sellers description you are trapped by ebay to 
>> use this.
>> EDD PAYNE
>> PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W
>> Australia
>> 2852
>> Phone:0263742387
>> edsengns at optusnet.com.au
>> edsengns
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
>> To: "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; "ATIS"
>> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:44 PM
>> Subject: [SEL] Ebay shipping costs
>>
>>
>>> Can anyone State side tell me why eBay
 is pushing sellers to post 
>>> internationally via their Kentucky distribution center??
>>> I have had three sellers on radios I want to buy forcing me to go 
>>> ?Priority International Post? via their Kentucky Center, this is 
>>> sometimes thre to four times to price of ?First Class International 
>>> Post? and takes the same time to get to Australia.
>>> Is eBay is cahoots with USPS ??? $$$$$ What is happening.
>>> The seller will not just pack and send to direct to me, someone is 
>>> jerking their chain.
>>> Peter
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>
>>
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Mon May 26 20:30:49 2014
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 13:30:49 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
In-Reply-To: <269736990EE642F0B48553FA9876E69F@regpc>
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<2FD55C7BE8E143A5A670CCCA7BF49046@regpc>
	<CFA8E9B9.6201%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
	<269736990EE642F0B48553FA9876E69F@regpc>
Message-ID: <CFAA43E0.621C%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

Think how bored you would be if we suddenly all agreed with you Reg?  :)

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





On 26/05/14 4:58 PM, "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au> wrote:

>Why 'sadly'??
>Reg & Marg Ingold
>Newcastle NSW Australia
>randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Mon May 26 22:08:37 2014
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 15:08:37 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Igniter gasket material
References: <CA+B8urQMbY84E9BeMVJajXfXGNrb3s-nrfCjpjq353Qt0ct=2g@mail.gmail.com><2FD55C7BE8E143A5A670CCCA7BF49046@regpc><CFA8E9B9.6201%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com><269736990EE642F0B48553FA9876E69F@regpc>
	<CFAA43E0.621C%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <113677700C8D4877B01826A6F57E6F45@regpc>

Dunno! It aint ever happened yet!!
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Igniter gasket material


> Think how bored you would be if we suddenly all agreed with you Reg?  :)
> 
> Patrick M Livingstone
> 0418 692013
> Earlwood NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 26/05/14 4:58 PM, "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au> wrote:
> 
>>Why 'sadly'??
>>Reg & Marg Ingold
>>Newcastle NSW Australia
>>randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> 
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