From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 00:54:58 2014
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 08:54:58 +0000
Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Dave_Reed=3F_=28Otto_Engine_Works=29?=
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00+wunymeznhFy66Pxmvv8FHXVgO1tAsf-ZJbbP3gCOcjA@mail.gmail.com>

Has anyone been in touch with Dave Reed recently?  A friend is trying to
contact Dave but not having any response.

Thanks,

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sun Mar  9 01:13:50 2014
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 20:13:50 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Dave Reed? (Otto Engine Works)
References: <CAMEZ00+wunymeznhFy66Pxmvv8FHXVgO1tAsf-ZJbbP3gCOcjA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C76F3E6E78CC40BEA282B1AE9BD9217A@regpc>

I got rings from him a few months back and all was ok then.
I aint heard anything that could be bad.
Here is the info I use.
Reed, Dave
E-mail Address(es):
  dave.reed at ringspacers.com
Personal Information:
  Address:
    2167 Blue Ball Rd
    Elkton Maryland 21921-3330
    USA
  Phone: 410-398-7340
  Web Page: http://www.ringspacers.com


Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Listerdiesel" <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
To: "Stationary-Engine" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Cc: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:54 PM
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Dave Reed? (Otto Engine Works)


> Has anyone been in touch with Dave Reed recently?  A friend is trying to
> contact Dave but not having any response.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Peter
> -- 
> Peter A Forbes
> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
> http://stationary-engine.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.co.uk
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From jbcast at charter.net  Sun Mar  9 04:34:21 2014
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 07:34:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Dave Reed? (Otto Engine Works)
Message-ID: <44e6c7f2.bc2de.144a69f4c06.Webtop.49@charter.net>

He sent rings two weeks ago. He can be hard to contact, usually answers 
his emails.
J.B. Castagnos


On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Reg Ingold wrote:

> I got rings from him a few months back and all was ok then.
> I aint heard anything that could be bad.
> Here is the info I use.
> Reed, Dave
> E-mail Address(es):
>   dave.reed at ringspacers.com
> Personal Information:
>   Address:
>     2167 Blue Ball Rd
>     Elkton Maryland 21921-3330
>     USA
>   Phone: 410-398-7340
>   Web Page: http://www.ringspacers.com
>
>
> Reg & Marg Ingold
> Newcastle NSW Australia
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" 
> <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
> To: "Stationary-Engine" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Cc: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:54 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Spam> Dave Reed? (Otto Engine Works)
>
>
>> Has anyone been in touch with Dave Reed recently?  A friend is trying 
>> to
>> contact Dave but not having any response.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Peter
>> -- 
>> Peter A Forbes
>> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
>> http://stationary-engine.co.uk
>> http://www.oldengine.co.uk
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From djohn2 at bigpond.net.au  Sun Mar  9 16:23:28 2014
From: djohn2 at bigpond.net.au (derek)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 09:53:28 +1030
Subject: [SEL] vehicle auction Aust.
In-Reply-To: <44e6c7f2.bc2de.144a69f4c06.Webtop.49@charter.net>
References: <44e6c7f2.bc2de.144a69f4c06.Webtop.49@charter.net>
Message-ID: <000001cf3bee$941e4260$bc5ac720$@net.au>

50 years collecting auction in Australia.
http://www.martinevansauctions.com/vehicles--parts-photo-gallery.html



From edstoller at earthlink.net  Tue Mar 11 11:33:29 2014
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed Stoller)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 14:33:29 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Fw: Resistance
Message-ID: <215A372B0F534D6AB4199DD7A31862B7@edlaptop>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Herb Gundy 
To: Ed Stoller 
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: Resistance


And this;


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-1-Cyl-Rotary-Oil-Field-Oilfield-Drill-Gas-Wankel-Engine-Hit-Miss-Era/400671747421?_trksid=p2047675.c100012.m1985&_trkparms=aid%3D444000%26algo%3DSOI.DEFAULT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20477%26meid%3D5411648568560837866%26pid%3D100012%26prg%3D9141%26rk%3D0%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D400670207145




On Mar 10, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Ed Stoller <edstoller at earthlink.net> wrote:


  Attached is what I was doing today.  Be on the look out for old generators and hit miss engines .

  Ed Stoller
  New Fairfield,  CT,   USA
  www.enginesandmagnets.com
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Herb Gundy
    To: Ed Stoller
    Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 8:49 PM
    Subject: Re: Resistance


    Thanks for that explanation.
    Your help has been greatly appreciated.
    How may I repay you for your expertise?


    Herb Gundy




    On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:44 PM, Ed Stoller <edstoller at earthlink.net> wrote:


      If the battery is over charged, it will be damaged. The regulator reduces the output as the limit , 14.7 Volts ,is approached. You could use a volt meter to monitor the battery voltage and a switch to disconnect the charging circuit when the Voltage gets above 14 Volts.

      Output maybe 4 Amps, maybe 6.  The Voltage rating is a break down voltage so you do not want any spikes exceeding it.

      Ed Stoller
      New Fairfield,  CT,   USA
      www.enginesandmagnets.com

      ----- Original Message -----
        From: Herb Gundy
        To: Ed Stoller
        Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 8:23 PM
        Subject: Re: Resistance


        Hi Ed,


        Well, "you da man". Told me exactly what I need to know. Thank you, thank you, thank you.


        I have one more question, Under what conditions would AC (or DC for that matter) need to pass thru a regulator. What are the limits; generally speaking, for a given battery/bulb? I do know that bulbs will blow and batteries will overcharge.


        Do you have a guess as to the output of this little system? I am assuming it?s not more than 200v/8 amp as per your rectifier recommendation.




        "Having fun?


        Herb G.




        On Mar 10, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Ed Stoller <edstoller at earthlink.net> wrote:


          Morning Herb,

          There are two ways to use the AC to charge a battery; Half Wave rectifier and a Full wave rectifier.  The second delivers twice the charge to the battery but the first is simpler.

          Reference: http://www.radioshack.com/home/index.jsp ,

          For a half wave rectifier, ground one end of the winding and connect the un-banded end of the diode to the other.

          <1N5404.jpg>

          For the full wave you need a bridge rectifier which has four diodes in it in a diamond arrangement.  See   ,NTE5300 - R-Bridge 200V 8 Amp Single Phase  or http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12708890    .

          <RS-Bridge.jpg>

          Note that the AC connections are in the center.  The - connection would go to the ground and the + off to the battery thru an ammeter, which should tell you how much charging current you have. They may have a bridge 50 Volts or over and 8 Amps or over at your local radio shack. If the meter is installed backwards, it will show a discharge instead of a charge.

          Have Fun,

          Ed Stoller
          New Fairfield,  CT,   USA
          www.enginesandmagnets.com


            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Herb Gundy
            To: Ed Stoller
            Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 9:51 PM
            Subject: Re: Resistance


            Thank you Ed,


            Yes, A and B describe the same wire.


            This motor was not installed in a tractor since coming into my possession. There is no diode pack. I know that it is putting out AC current when I spin the engine with a drill but don?t know the correct way to proceed from here.
            Can you tell, based on your experience, how many amp system this is? And, what a diode set up should look like for this application.
            If you could tell me how to go about installing a diode so that this motor would charge a battery as well as power a headlight I would be so grateful.


            hg


            On Mar 9, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Ed Stoller <edstoller at earthlink.net> wrote:


              <71-H70..jpg>

              I am trying to make sure I know what wire goes where.


              Looking at the picture a little closer, are A and B the same wire? and I understand D and E are the ignition.

              Measure the resistance between B and C in both directions. It is probably Zero. This would be the AC output most likely to charge the battery. Was there a little box inside the blower housing?  The voltage regulator is usually part of the tractor or machine wiring. Your measurements would indicate that it winding is good. I do not know what else to do here.


              Ed Stoller
              New Fairfield,  CT,   USA
              www.enginesandmagnets.com
              ----- Original Message -----
                From: Herb Gundy
                To: Ed Stoller
                Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:45 PM
                Subject: Re: Resistance


                Hi Ed,


                In your picture, C and B are the wires I tested. 
                They go to the copper windings on the stator. Both infinite, in either direction. I did not test the ignition wire (D ) and kill wire (E) as I am sure that they are working OK. D passes out a nice blue spark when I spin the flywheel with a power drill and E stops the spark when I ground it to the block.
                BTW I am sure there is no diode in the circuit. The wires on the stator were clipped right at the windings. I attached the brown and red leads you see in the picture.
                If you need more info I?m at your service.


                hg


                On Mar 9, 2014, at 7:08 PM, Ed Stoller <edstoller at earthlink.net> wrote:


                  Looking at the picture I sent you, what wires are you tlaking about.  All of them?

                  Ed Stoller
                  New Fairfield,  CT,   USA
                  www.enginesandmagnets.com
                    ----- Original Message -----
                    From: Herb Gundy
                    To: Ed Stoller
                    Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:45 PM
                    Subject: Fwd: Resistance


                    Hi Ed,


                    Am back from trip. In case you did not hear, resistance was infinite both ends and both ways.


                    herb g.



                    Begin forwarded message:


                      From: "Ed Stoller" <edstoller at earthlink.net>

                      Subject: Re: Resistance

                      Date: March 7, 2014 at 8:38:59 AM EST

                      To: "Herb Gundy" <nhgccc1 at windstream.net>



                      No problem. When you measure the resistance, reverse you RED and Black meter leads incase there is a diode in the line.

                      Ed Stoller
                      New Fairfield,  CT,   USA
                      www.enginesandmagnets.com
                      ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herb Gundy" <nhgccc1 at windstream.net>
                      To: "Ed Stoller" <edstoller at earthlink.net>
                      Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 9:24 PM
                      Subject: Resistance


                      Almost forgot;

                      Ed, I will be away for a couple of days. I will measure the resistance tomorrow if I have the chance. Otherwise will get back to you on Sunday/Monday if that?s OK.

                      Best,

                      hg





















  <W3MnewIgnition.pdf>



From kosh at ncweb.com  Sat Mar 15 20:54:20 2014
From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 23:54:20 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Engine id on Shorpy
Message-ID: <1394942068_85008@mail2>


Anybody have an id on this engine in NZ?

http://www.shorpy.com/node/17140?size=_original#caption

http://www.shorpy.com/node/17140

One commentor suggested a Tangye.

Dave Merchant




From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com  Sat Mar 15 23:07:02 2014
From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 06:07:02 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Engine id on Shorpy
In-Reply-To: <1394942068_85008@mail2>
References: <1394942068_85008@mail2>
Message-ID: <DUB126-W67B947F668C5E6B662F397D0720@phx.gbl>

To me it has a Fielding look about it but have never seen anything quite like it. Really nice looking engine,thanks Dave,very interesting.  John

> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 23:54:20 -0400
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> From: kosh at ncweb.com
> Subject: [SEL] Engine id on Shorpy
> 
> 
> Anybody have an id on this engine in NZ?
> 
> http://www.shorpy.com/node/17140?size=_original#caption
> 
> http://www.shorpy.com/node/17140
> 
> One commentor suggested a Tangye.
> 
> Dave Merchant
> 
> 
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From Frank at lbpinc.com  Wed Mar 19 18:14:41 2014
From: Frank at lbpinc.com (Frank DeWitt LBP)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 21:14:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] National Pike May show.
In-Reply-To: <215A372B0F534D6AB4199DD7A31862B7@edlaptop>
References: <215A372B0F534D6AB4199DD7A31862B7@edlaptop>
Message-ID: <532A4101.3020706@lbpinc.com>

Hi  I have a chance to attend the National Pike May show this spring and 
I would like to know a little about it.  I assume the main show is in 
the fall, so how big is the may show?   Is there much steam?  Much 
diging equipment?

Other comments, thoughts, recommendations?

Thanks

Frank

-- 
?Entrepreneurs and their small enterprises are responsible for
almost all economic growth in the United States,?

President Reagan.


HONOR GOD
SERVE PEOPLE
DEVELOP EXCELLENCE
GROW PROFITABLE
FOLLOWING BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES

    Frank DeWitt           |  mailto:frank at lbpinc.com
    Mechanical Design      |  Phone:  585 624 3052
    LBP  INC.              |  Fax     585 624 1038
    2365 Cox Rd.           |
    Bloomfield NY 14469    |Web  http://www.lbpinc.com/



From kosh at ncweb.com  Wed Mar 19 20:26:27 2014
From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 23:26:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] National Pike May show. - Brownsville PA
In-Reply-To: <532A4101.3020706@lbpinc.com>
References: <215A372B0F534D6AB4199DD7A31862B7@edlaptop>
	<532A4101.3020706@lbpinc.com>
Message-ID: <1395286031_93687@mail2>

The May show is busy.  All of the big machines are there permanently.

Summer show is a bit busier, but crowded.

http://youtu.be/WwCPpijl7_s
http://youtu.be/aLwgkgCcHqQ
http://youtu.be/gkCNQxzMTE8
http://youtu.be/WUIqFdyqkBU
http://youtu.be/mwVuoPAkJtM
http://youtu.be/XqsJEEFMMCk
http://youtu.be/If5FkJDIqvo
http://youtu.be/ZdZXeXbq_yU
http://youtu.be/0Juaj9PLo8g
http://youtu.be/dY-5rhSXD20
http://youtu.be/inFdVu-XMnM
http://youtu.be/nkzpAjS8gvE
http://youtu.be/kkm5_hAmHIo
http://youtu.be/5h4p2Z2mGnU
http://youtu.be/TWLMWGvYODA
http://youtu.be/AxwAAni6nV4
http://youtu.be/zdCNek1AWxM
http://youtu.be/YjZoC6-OomQ
http://youtu.be/uXzkueRIQPs
http://youtu.be/3jHhTpiy1U8
http://youtu.be/z-q9vd8oO1c
http://youtu.be/pTSercjO31o

Erie steamer...

http://youtu.be/erzrUEKh4eA
http://youtu.be/T1iOZu7et64
http://youtu.be/pDOjUS7SwWY

...etc...

There are 2 steam shovels there, but the Erie has been down for 
boiler work, hope to have it going this year.

There is a fairly large turnout of wheel tractors, a couple steam 
traction engines (not always running), a big Bessemer, a 3 cylinder 
Fairbanks generator, and a decent number of stationary engines.

I rate shows by miles I'd be willing drive to get there.  This is a 
1000 mile show.

Some guys from Oz usually show up.

Dave Merchant


At 09:14 PM 3/19/2014, Frank DeWitt LBP wrote:
>Hi  I have a chance to attend the National Pike May show this spring and
>I would like to know a little about it.  I assume the main show is in
>the fall, so how big is the may show?   Is there much steam?  Much
>diging equipment?
>
>Other comments, thoughts, recommendations?
>
>Thanks
>
>Frank
>
>--
>"Entrepreneurs and their small enterprises are responsible for
>almost all economic growth in the United States,"
>
>President Reagan.
>
>
>HONOR GOD
>SERVE PEOPLE
>DEVELOP EXCELLENCE
>GROW PROFITABLE
>FOLLOWING BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES
>
>     Frank DeWitt           |  mailto:frank at lbpinc.com
>     Mechanical Design      |  Phone:  585 624 3052
>     LBP  INC.              |  Fax     585 624 1038
>     2365 Cox Rd.           |
>     Bloomfield NY 14469    |Web  http://www.lbpinc.com/
>
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 00:54:58 2014
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 08:54:58 +0000
Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Dave_Reed=3F_=28Otto_Engine_Works=29?=
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00+wunymeznhFy66Pxmvv8FHXVgO1tAsf-ZJbbP3gCOcjA@mail.gmail.com>

Has anyone been in touch with Dave Reed recently?  A friend is trying to
contact Dave but not having any response.

Thanks,

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sun Mar  9 01:13:50 2014
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 20:13:50 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Dave Reed? (Otto Engine Works)
References: <CAMEZ00+wunymeznhFy66Pxmvv8FHXVgO1tAsf-ZJbbP3gCOcjA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C76F3E6E78CC40BEA282B1AE9BD9217A@regpc>

I got rings from him a few months back and all was ok then.
I aint heard anything that could be bad.
Here is the info I use.
Reed, Dave
E-mail Address(es):
  dave.reed at ringspacers.com
Personal Information:
  Address:
    2167 Blue Ball Rd
    Elkton Maryland 21921-3330
    USA
  Phone: 410-398-7340
  Web Page: http://www.ringspacers.com


Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Listerdiesel" <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
To: "Stationary-Engine" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Cc: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:54 PM
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Dave Reed? (Otto Engine Works)


> Has anyone been in touch with Dave Reed recently?  A friend is trying to
> contact Dave but not having any response.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Peter
> -- 
> Peter A Forbes
> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
> http://stationary-engine.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.co.uk
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From jbcast at charter.net  Sun Mar  9 04:34:21 2014
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 07:34:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Dave Reed? (Otto Engine Works)
Message-ID: <44e6c7f2.bc2de.144a69f4c06.Webtop.49@charter.net>

He sent rings two weeks ago. He can be hard to contact, usually answers 
his emails.
J.B. Castagnos


On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Reg Ingold wrote:

> I got rings from him a few months back and all was ok then.
> I aint heard anything that could be bad.
> Here is the info I use.
> Reed, Dave
> E-mail Address(es):
>   dave.reed at ringspacers.com
> Personal Information:
>   Address:
>     2167 Blue Ball Rd
>     Elkton Maryland 21921-3330
>     USA
>   Phone: 410-398-7340
>   Web Page: http://www.ringspacers.com
>
>
> Reg & Marg Ingold
> Newcastle NSW Australia
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" 
> <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
> To: "Stationary-Engine" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Cc: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:54 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Spam> Dave Reed? (Otto Engine Works)
>
>
>> Has anyone been in touch with Dave Reed recently?  A friend is trying 
>> to
>> contact Dave but not having any response.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Peter
>> -- 
>> Peter A Forbes
>> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
>> http://stationary-engine.co.uk
>> http://www.oldengine.co.uk
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>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From djohn2 at bigpond.net.au  Sun Mar  9 16:23:28 2014
From: djohn2 at bigpond.net.au (derek)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 09:53:28 +1030
Subject: [SEL] vehicle auction Aust.
In-Reply-To: <44e6c7f2.bc2de.144a69f4c06.Webtop.49@charter.net>
References: <44e6c7f2.bc2de.144a69f4c06.Webtop.49@charter.net>
Message-ID: <000001cf3bee$941e4260$bc5ac720$@net.au>

50 years collecting auction in Australia.
http://www.martinevansauctions.com/vehicles--parts-photo-gallery.html



From edstoller at earthlink.net  Tue Mar 11 11:33:29 2014
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed Stoller)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 14:33:29 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Fw: Resistance
Message-ID: <215A372B0F534D6AB4199DD7A31862B7@edlaptop>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Herb Gundy 
To: Ed Stoller 
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: Resistance


And this;


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-1-Cyl-Rotary-Oil-Field-Oilfield-Drill-Gas-Wankel-Engine-Hit-Miss-Era/400671747421?_trksid=p2047675.c100012.m1985&_trkparms=aid%3D444000%26algo%3DSOI.DEFAULT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20477%26meid%3D5411648568560837866%26pid%3D100012%26prg%3D9141%26rk%3D0%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D400670207145




On Mar 10, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Ed Stoller <edstoller at earthlink.net> wrote:


  Attached is what I was doing today.  Be on the look out for old generators and hit miss engines .

  Ed Stoller
  New Fairfield,  CT,   USA
  www.enginesandmagnets.com
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Herb Gundy
    To: Ed Stoller
    Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 8:49 PM
    Subject: Re: Resistance


    Thanks for that explanation.
    Your help has been greatly appreciated.
    How may I repay you for your expertise?


    Herb Gundy




    On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:44 PM, Ed Stoller <edstoller at earthlink.net> wrote:


      If the battery is over charged, it will be damaged. The regulator reduces the output as the limit , 14.7 Volts ,is approached. You could use a volt meter to monitor the battery voltage and a switch to disconnect the charging circuit when the Voltage gets above 14 Volts.

      Output maybe 4 Amps, maybe 6.  The Voltage rating is a break down voltage so you do not want any spikes exceeding it.

      Ed Stoller
      New Fairfield,  CT,   USA
      www.enginesandmagnets.com

      ----- Original Message -----
        From: Herb Gundy
        To: Ed Stoller
        Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 8:23 PM
        Subject: Re: Resistance


        Hi Ed,


        Well, "you da man". Told me exactly what I need to know. Thank you, thank you, thank you.


        I have one more question, Under what conditions would AC (or DC for that matter) need to pass thru a regulator. What are the limits; generally speaking, for a given battery/bulb? I do know that bulbs will blow and batteries will overcharge.


        Do you have a guess as to the output of this little system? I am assuming it?s not more than 200v/8 amp as per your rectifier recommendation.




        "Having fun?


        Herb G.




        On Mar 10, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Ed Stoller <edstoller at earthlink.net> wrote:


          Morning Herb,

          There are two ways to use the AC to charge a battery; Half Wave rectifier and a Full wave rectifier.  The second delivers twice the charge to the battery but the first is simpler.

          Reference: http://www.radioshack.com/home/index.jsp ,

          For a half wave rectifier, ground one end of the winding and connect the un-banded end of the diode to the other.

          <1N5404.jpg>

          For the full wave you need a bridge rectifier which has four diodes in it in a diamond arrangement.  See   ,NTE5300 - R-Bridge 200V 8 Amp Single Phase  or http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12708890    .

          <RS-Bridge.jpg>

          Note that the AC connections are in the center.  The - connection would go to the ground and the + off to the battery thru an ammeter, which should tell you how much charging current you have. They may have a bridge 50 Volts or over and 8 Amps or over at your local radio shack. If the meter is installed backwards, it will show a discharge instead of a charge.

          Have Fun,

          Ed Stoller
          New Fairfield,  CT,   USA
          www.enginesandmagnets.com


            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Herb Gundy
            To: Ed Stoller
            Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 9:51 PM
            Subject: Re: Resistance


            Thank you Ed,


            Yes, A and B describe the same wire.


            This motor was not installed in a tractor since coming into my possession. There is no diode pack. I know that it is putting out AC current when I spin the engine with a drill but don?t know the correct way to proceed from here.
            Can you tell, based on your experience, how many amp system this is? And, what a diode set up should look like for this application.
            If you could tell me how to go about installing a diode so that this motor would charge a battery as well as power a headlight I would be so grateful.


            hg


            On Mar 9, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Ed Stoller <edstoller at earthlink.net> wrote:


              <71-H70..jpg>

              I am trying to make sure I know what wire goes where.


              Looking at the picture a little closer, are A and B the same wire? and I understand D and E are the ignition.

              Measure the resistance between B and C in both directions. It is probably Zero. This would be the AC output most likely to charge the battery. Was there a little box inside the blower housing?  The voltage regulator is usually part of the tractor or machine wiring. Your measurements would indicate that it winding is good. I do not know what else to do here.


              Ed Stoller
              New Fairfield,  CT,   USA
              www.enginesandmagnets.com
              ----- Original Message -----
                From: Herb Gundy
                To: Ed Stoller
                Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:45 PM
                Subject: Re: Resistance


                Hi Ed,


                In your picture, C and B are the wires I tested. 
                They go to the copper windings on the stator. Both infinite, in either direction. I did not test the ignition wire (D ) and kill wire (E) as I am sure that they are working OK. D passes out a nice blue spark when I spin the flywheel with a power drill and E stops the spark when I ground it to the block.
                BTW I am sure there is no diode in the circuit. The wires on the stator were clipped right at the windings. I attached the brown and red leads you see in the picture.
                If you need more info I?m at your service.


                hg


                On Mar 9, 2014, at 7:08 PM, Ed Stoller <edstoller at earthlink.net> wrote:


                  Looking at the picture I sent you, what wires are you tlaking about.  All of them?

                  Ed Stoller
                  New Fairfield,  CT,   USA
                  www.enginesandmagnets.com
                    ----- Original Message -----
                    From: Herb Gundy
                    To: Ed Stoller
                    Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:45 PM
                    Subject: Fwd: Resistance


                    Hi Ed,


                    Am back from trip. In case you did not hear, resistance was infinite both ends and both ways.


                    herb g.



                    Begin forwarded message:


                      From: "Ed Stoller" <edstoller at earthlink.net>

                      Subject: Re: Resistance

                      Date: March 7, 2014 at 8:38:59 AM EST

                      To: "Herb Gundy" <nhgccc1 at windstream.net>



                      No problem. When you measure the resistance, reverse you RED and Black meter leads incase there is a diode in the line.

                      Ed Stoller
                      New Fairfield,  CT,   USA
                      www.enginesandmagnets.com
                      ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herb Gundy" <nhgccc1 at windstream.net>
                      To: "Ed Stoller" <edstoller at earthlink.net>
                      Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 9:24 PM
                      Subject: Resistance


                      Almost forgot;

                      Ed, I will be away for a couple of days. I will measure the resistance tomorrow if I have the chance. Otherwise will get back to you on Sunday/Monday if that?s OK.

                      Best,

                      hg





















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From kosh at ncweb.com  Sat Mar 15 20:54:20 2014
From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 23:54:20 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Engine id on Shorpy
Message-ID: <1394942068_85008@mail2>


Anybody have an id on this engine in NZ?

http://www.shorpy.com/node/17140?size=_original#caption

http://www.shorpy.com/node/17140

One commentor suggested a Tangye.

Dave Merchant




From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com  Sat Mar 15 23:07:02 2014
From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 06:07:02 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Engine id on Shorpy
In-Reply-To: <1394942068_85008@mail2>
References: <1394942068_85008@mail2>
Message-ID: <DUB126-W67B947F668C5E6B662F397D0720@phx.gbl>

To me it has a Fielding look about it but have never seen anything quite like it. Really nice looking engine,thanks Dave,very interesting.  John

> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 23:54:20 -0400
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> From: kosh at ncweb.com
> Subject: [SEL] Engine id on Shorpy
> 
> 
> Anybody have an id on this engine in NZ?
> 
> http://www.shorpy.com/node/17140?size=_original#caption
> 
> http://www.shorpy.com/node/17140
> 
> One commentor suggested a Tangye.
> 
> Dave Merchant
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From Frank at lbpinc.com  Wed Mar 19 18:14:41 2014
From: Frank at lbpinc.com (Frank DeWitt LBP)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 21:14:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] National Pike May show.
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Hi  I have a chance to attend the National Pike May show this spring and 
I would like to know a little about it.  I assume the main show is in 
the fall, so how big is the may show?   Is there much steam?  Much 
diging equipment?

Other comments, thoughts, recommendations?

Thanks

Frank

-- 
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almost all economic growth in the United States,?

President Reagan.


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From kosh at ncweb.com  Wed Mar 19 20:26:27 2014
From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 23:26:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] National Pike May show. - Brownsville PA
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References: <215A372B0F534D6AB4199DD7A31862B7@edlaptop>
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The May show is busy.  All of the big machines are there permanently.

Summer show is a bit busier, but crowded.

http://youtu.be/WwCPpijl7_s
http://youtu.be/aLwgkgCcHqQ
http://youtu.be/gkCNQxzMTE8
http://youtu.be/WUIqFdyqkBU
http://youtu.be/mwVuoPAkJtM
http://youtu.be/XqsJEEFMMCk
http://youtu.be/If5FkJDIqvo
http://youtu.be/ZdZXeXbq_yU
http://youtu.be/0Juaj9PLo8g
http://youtu.be/dY-5rhSXD20
http://youtu.be/inFdVu-XMnM
http://youtu.be/nkzpAjS8gvE
http://youtu.be/kkm5_hAmHIo
http://youtu.be/5h4p2Z2mGnU
http://youtu.be/TWLMWGvYODA
http://youtu.be/AxwAAni6nV4
http://youtu.be/zdCNek1AWxM
http://youtu.be/YjZoC6-OomQ
http://youtu.be/uXzkueRIQPs
http://youtu.be/3jHhTpiy1U8
http://youtu.be/z-q9vd8oO1c
http://youtu.be/pTSercjO31o

Erie steamer...

http://youtu.be/erzrUEKh4eA
http://youtu.be/T1iOZu7et64
http://youtu.be/pDOjUS7SwWY

...etc...

There are 2 steam shovels there, but the Erie has been down for 
boiler work, hope to have it going this year.

There is a fairly large turnout of wheel tractors, a couple steam 
traction engines (not always running), a big Bessemer, a 3 cylinder 
Fairbanks generator, and a decent number of stationary engines.

I rate shows by miles I'd be willing drive to get there.  This is a 
1000 mile show.

Some guys from Oz usually show up.

Dave Merchant


At 09:14 PM 3/19/2014, Frank DeWitt LBP wrote:
>Hi  I have a chance to attend the National Pike May show this spring and
>I would like to know a little about it.  I assume the main show is in
>the fall, so how big is the may show?   Is there much steam?  Much
>diging equipment?
>
>Other comments, thoughts, recommendations?
>
>Thanks
>
>Frank
>
>--
>"Entrepreneurs and their small enterprises are responsible for
>almost all economic growth in the United States,"
>
>President Reagan.
>
>
>HONOR GOD
>SERVE PEOPLE
>DEVELOP EXCELLENCE
>GROW PROFITABLE
>FOLLOWING BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES
>
>     Frank DeWitt           |  mailto:frank at lbpinc.com
>     Mechanical Design      |  Phone:  585 624 3052
>     LBP  INC.              |  Fax     585 624 1038
>     2365 Cox Rd.           |
>     Bloomfield NY 14469    |Web  http://www.lbpinc.com/
>
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