From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Mar 4 10:03:19 2013 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 13:03:19 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Keeping the kids keen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7250DC11D3A54F028CA56EC1549339CE@RoysterPC> You can't start them too young! -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Livingstone Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 10:57 PM To: ATIS ; Oldengine Subject: Keeping the kids keen Samuel is learning fast. He is already trying to get an engine going on his own. He has watched me carefully starting the model Eclipse and almost has it sorted ;) A quick video on youtube at: http://youtu.be/uV-P6gh7m-s Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html To UN-subscribe, send a message to: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org with: unsubscribe in the subject of the message. Nothing else, no SIGs, etc. From rdhaskell at juno.com Fri Mar 8 11:13:37 2013 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:13:37 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Knox engines Message-ID: <20130308.111406.1556.117541@mailpop02.vgs.untd.com> These are the engines remaining at Knox. The URL looks strange, can you open it? https://plus.google.com/photos/104862591013550196821/albums?banner=pwa&gp src=pwrd1#photos/104862591013550196821/albums/5853036812796330049 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2 From Vivas1993 at aol.com Fri Mar 8 11:36:45 2013 From: Vivas1993 at aol.com (Vivas1993 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 14:36:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Knox engines Message-ID: <6bdd.4d1f1f12.3e6b97cd@aol.com> Came through fine here Ron. Thanks, Dwight In a message dated 3/8/2013 2:19:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rdhaskell at juno.com writes: https://plus.google.com/photos/104862591013550196821/albums?banner=pwa&gp src=pwrd1#photos/104862591013550196821/albums/5853036812796330049 From rdhaskell at juno.com Fri Mar 8 11:42:45 2013 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:42:45 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Remaining engines at the Knox sale Message-ID: <20130308.114254.28750.188315@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com> Hi all. Here are some pictures of the remaining engines at the Knox property. The captions have the engine number and price. Some engines are already under consideration but no $ has changed hands yet. If you have an interest contact me and I will put you with the people who make the deals. I can probably help with shipping. The engines are 30 miles away from me, so be patient. https://picasaweb.google.com/104862591013550196821/Knox3# Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2 From mickc782 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 8 11:55:20 2013 From: mickc782 at hotmail.com (michael christie) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 06:55:20 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Knox engines Message-ID: gday ron thanks for the link. yes it does look.strange but opened up fine. yeah not many there left to go. still wouldnt mind the little green john deere but price would have to be a little cheaper though for me to take the punt. you gunna buy any more from there? the economeys look good cheers mick -----Original Message----- From: rdhaskell at juno.com Sent: 8 Mar 2013 19:20:37 GMT To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Knox engines These are the engines remaining at Knox. The URL looks strange, can you open it? https://plus.google.com/photos/104862591013550196821/albums?banner=pwa&gp src=pwrd1#photos/104862591013550196821/albums/5853036812796330049 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Mar 8 11:43:10 2013 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:43:10 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Knox engines In-Reply-To: <20130308.111406.1556.117541@mailpop02.vgs.untd.com> References: <20130308.111406.1556.117541@mailpop02.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: On Mar 8, 2013, at 11:13 AM, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote: > These are the engines remaining at Knox. The URL looks strange, can you > open it? > https://plus.google.com/photos/104862591013550196821/albums?banner=pwa&gp > src=pwrd1#photos/104862591013550196821/albums/5853036812796330049 Works for me, Ron, if I cut the WHOLE link and then paste it into the browser. Long URLs that come from you via SEL are always chopped in half. I don?t know why. If you want to fix it for those readers of your email who are not adept at cutting and pasting, there are plenty of services that will shorten a URL. You might want to try Google?s at http://goo.gl. Paste in your long URL, click, and it will give you a short URL, such as this: http://goo.gl/Fofpl. It looks like only a few engines are left. Perhaps they can go in the Hit & Miss. Rob From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Fri Mar 8 12:36:09 2013 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 07:36:09 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Knox engines References: <20130308.111406.1556.117541@mailpop02.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <3E4661A0FA5548A8886030D1EA3D3655@regpc> No! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 6:13 AM Subject: [SEL] Knox engines > These are the engines remaining at Knox. The URL looks strange, can you > open it? > https://plus.google.com/photos/104862591013550196821/albums?banner=pwa&gp > src=pwrd1#photos/104862591013550196821/albums/5853036812796330049 > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > ____________________________________________________________ > Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. > http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Fri Mar 8 16:40:39 2013 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 16:40:39 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Knox engines Message-ID: <20130308.164136.28661.25305@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> G'day Mick There are three 1 1/2 hp JD, which one would you like, and how much do you want to pay? Here they are double what they should be, just because they say John Deere on the side. No, I am maxed out on engines unless it is really cheap or calls my name very loudly. The 5 hp Economy is the closest to calling my name. Have a great weekend. Cheers Ron. On Sat, 9 Mar 2013 06:55:20 +1100 michael christie writes: > gday ron > thanks for the link. yes it does look.strange but opened up fine. > yeah not many there left to go. still wouldnt mind the little green > john deere but price would have to be a little cheaper though for me > to take the punt. you gunna buy any more from there? the economeys > look good > cheers > mick ____________________________________________________________ How to Sleep Like a Rock Obey this one natural trick to fall asleep and stay asleep all night. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/513a857a55aad57a3e7dst01vuc From jlb94 at juno.com Sat Mar 9 10:22:31 2013 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 18:22:31 GMT Subject: [SEL] Knox engines Message-ID: <20130309.132231.1749.5@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> I opened it - Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die I want to go where they went. (_0_) "In memory of Bre-Dog" ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Reg Ingold" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] Knox engines Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 07:36:09 +1100 No! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 6:13 AM Subject: [SEL] Knox engines > These are the engines remaining at Knox. The URL looks strange, can you > open it? > https://plus.google.com/photos/104862591013550196821/albums?banner=pwa&gp > src=pwrd1#photos/104862591013550196821/albums/5853036812796330049 > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > ____________________________________________________________ > Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. > http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From wboldrusty70 at gmail.com Sat Mar 9 11:55:35 2013 From: wboldrusty70 at gmail.com (William Burg) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 06:55:35 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Knox engines In-Reply-To: <3E4661A0FA5548A8886030D1EA3D3655@regpc> References: <20130308.111406.1556.117541@mailpop02.vgs.untd.com> <3E4661A0FA5548A8886030D1EA3D3655@regpc> Message-ID: Loaded OK for me. William in Newcastle. On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Reg Ingold wrote: > No! > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 6:13 AM > Subject: [SEL] Knox engines > > > > These are the engines remaining at Knox. The URL looks strange, can you > > open it? > > > https://plus.google.com/photos/104862591013550196821/albums?banner=pwa&gp > > src=pwrd1#photos/104862591013550196821/albums/5853036812796330049 > > > > Ron Haskell > > rdhaskell at juno.com > > Riverside, California USA > > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. > > http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2 > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Mar 11 05:24:58 2013 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:24:58 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Message For Reggie Message-ID: Getting emails bouncing back from your email, Reg: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MailEnable: Message Delivery Failure. Reason: ME-E0193: [DA2D97EA0EA541FAA9DA6A352479E94A.MAI] Message Delivery Failure. Your message addressed to the target domain (hotkey.net.au) could not be delivered because the mail server responsible for this domain returned a permanent error. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sent it twice but same result, and was too late to call you (past 10pm your time) New driver board is ordered, paid for and in stock at Hardinge-Bridgeport, should be here tomorrow, will send on via Registered Post. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From ozengine at yahoo.com.au Tue Mar 12 18:21:29 2013 From: ozengine at yahoo.com.au (Graham Harris) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Message For Reggie (Listerdiesel) Message-ID: <1363137689.71773.YahooMailNeo@web163402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Yeah, I still reckon he's kicked the bucket. Whoever replied last time saying I'm?still around couldve been a ghost. Reggies Ghost paranormal Reggie. Why won't my engine start. ? Graham From russell at ncable.com.au Tue Mar 12 21:18:53 2013 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:18:53 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Message For Reggie (Listerdiesel) In-Reply-To: <1363137689.71773.YahooMailNeo@web163402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1363137689.71773.YahooMailNeo@web163402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Reggie s PC has probably shit itself from all the bugs he collects when accidentally passing by titty sites? On 13/03/2013, at 12:21 PM, Graham Harris wrote: > Yeah, I still reckon he's kicked the bucket. Whoever replied last time saying I'm still around couldve been a ghost. Reggies Ghost paranormal Reggie. Why won't my engine start. > > Graham > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Mar 13 07:18:40 2013 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:18:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Message For Reggie (Listerdiesel) In-Reply-To: References: <1363137689.71773.YahooMailNeo@web163402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Accidentally??? Reggie??? Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!! On Wed, March 13, 2013 12:18 am, Russell wrote: > Reggie s PC has probably shit itself from all the bugs he collects when > accidentally passing by titty sites? From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 13 17:05:30 2013 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 20:05:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Baraboo 2013 Message-ID: <31FE14D4-7A45-4A1E-8044-603960C0E49E@me.com> Arnie, I've ordered two BLACK wristbands for us for Baraboo! (Or perhaps we should just stay home this year!) See: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/wisconsin-s-vista-program-encourages-volunteers-overcome-white-privilege Dave From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 13 21:40:28 2013 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (=?utf-8?B?c2x1Z2dvNTRAaG90bWFpbC5jb20=?=) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 22:40:28 -0600 Subject: [SEL] =?utf-8?q?Baraboo_2013?= Message-ID: "One ?diversity? document linked to DPI?s Web site suggests that white people ?wear a white wristband as a reminder about your privilege, and as a personal commitment to explain why you wear the wristband.? This will be at least as effective as tying a red ribbon on your truck to bring drunk driving to a sliding halt. Bruce Younger sluggo64 at hotmail.com I practice the art of Klik Pao ----- Reply message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" Date: Wed, Mar 13, 2013 18:05 Subject: Baraboo 2013 To: , "The SEL email discussion list" Arnie, I've ordered two BLACK wristbands for us for Baraboo! (Or perhaps we should just stay home this year!) See: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/wisconsin-s-vista-program-encourages-volunteers-overcome-white-privilege Dave From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Mar 14 05:19:40 2013 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:19:40 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Message For Reggie (Listerdiesel) In-Reply-To: References: <1363137689.71773.YahooMailNeo@web163402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 13 March 2013 14:18, Arnie Fero wrote: > Accidentally??? Reggie??? Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!! > > On Wed, March 13, 2013 12:18 am, Russell wrote: >> Reggie s PC has probably shit itself from all the bugs he collects when >> accidentally passing by titty sites? He is alive and well, I had a chat with him yesterday when his power supply arrived here. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From Germoamer at aol.com Fri Mar 15 05:47:51 2013 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:47:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] estate sale Message-ID: <5f96.f24b891.3e747277@aol.com> _http://www.estatesales.net/estate-sales/401379.aspx_ (http://www.estatesales.net/estate-sales/401379.aspx) Anyone around the Knoxville, Tn. area, there is an estate sale this weekend that says there are 4 H/M motors, only photos of two showing. One looks like maybe in original shape with Webster mag. Lots of other collectable items there listed. Wish I lived closer. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at aol.com From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Mon Mar 18 01:56:04 2013 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:56:04 +1100 Subject: [SEL] 2013 Canberra Rally Message-ID: Some pics from the 2013 Canberra Rally at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/can2013/index.htm Enjoy! Patrick Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From obise at moscow.com Mon Mar 18 07:49:17 2013 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:49:17 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 2013 Canberra Rally In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5147296D.5050602@moscow.com> As usual, Patrick, your pictures are superb. Thank you for posting. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 3/18/2013 1:56 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote: > Some pics from the 2013 Canberra Rally at: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/can2013/index.htm > Enjoy! > Patrick From rotigel at me.com Mon Mar 18 17:25:46 2013 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:25:46 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam> Crosscut Saw Sharpening Message-ID: <013ECA95-1D4E-4F65-A13E-BF4447303690@me.com> This is the BEST thing I've seen on how to sharpen a crosscut saw. The same information should be easily transferable to a drag saw! See: http://www.bchw.org/Tech%20tips/FilerDVD.htm Dave From jbcast at charter.net Tue Mar 19 02:37:06 2013 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 05:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft Message-ID: <30442b5c.4905d3.13d82025f64.Webtop.49@charter.net> SOme of you may have seen it on Smokstak, I'm making a new crank for my 3 cyl St Lawrence. Here's the link, http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117550 From rotigel at me.com Tue Mar 19 03:51:44 2013 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 06:51:44 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft In-Reply-To: <30442b5c.4905d3.13d82025f64.Webtop.49@charter.net> References: <30442b5c.4905d3.13d82025f64.Webtop.49@charter.net> Message-ID: WOW JB, You NEVER cease to amaze! Dave On Mar 19, 2013, at 5:37 AM, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > > > SOme of you may have seen it on Smokstak, I'm making a new crank for my > 3 cyl St Lawrence. Here's the link, > > http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117550 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jlb94 at juno.com Tue Mar 19 07:26:45 2013 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:26:45 GMT Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft Message-ID: <20130319.102645.23123.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> WOW !!!! JB, I would never even THINK of trying to make my own crank. U-R-The BEST !!! Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-, If there are no dogs in heaven, \/)"(\/ when I die I want to go where they went. (_0_) "In memory of Bre-Dog" ---------- Original Message ---------- From: jbcast at charter.net To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 05:37:06 -0400 (EDT) SOme of you may have seen it on Smokstak, I'm making a new crank for my 3 cyl St Lawrence. Here's the link, http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117550 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Tue Mar 19 07:39:22 2013 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:39:22 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft In-Reply-To: <30442b5c.4905d3.13d82025f64.Webtop.49@charter.net> References: <30442b5c.4905d3.13d82025f64.Webtop.49@charter.net> Message-ID: On Mar 19, 2013, at 2:37 AM, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > SOme of you may have seen it on Smokstak, I'm making a new crank for my > 3 cyl St Lawrence. Here's the link, > > http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117550 Twisting? Holy moly. I?ve heard of crankshafts twisting, but it?s never been in a good way. That?s good stuff, J.B. Thanks for posting it. Rob From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue Mar 19 08:33:01 2013 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:33:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft In-Reply-To: <20130319.102645.23123.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> References: <20130319.102645.23123.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <004001ce24b7$0b30dd90$219298b0$@scrtc.com> Beautiful work JB!! Tommy Turner SOme of you may have seen it on Smokstak, I'm making a new crank for my 3 cyl St Lawrence. Here's the link, http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117550 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com Tue Mar 19 09:17:29 2013 From: skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com (Skip) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:17:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft References: <30442b5c.4905d3.13d82025f64.Webtop.49@charter.net> Message-ID: <49C4765D00244A7FBB0B19449AFA6790@skipcc87290b37> Here is a nice article on the crank twist or not twist. Or you can Google it your self. Skip http://www.precisionenginetech.com/tech-explained/2009/06/02/forged-crankshaft-tech-part-2/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Making a crankshaft On Mar 19, 2013, at 2:37 AM, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > SOme of you may have seen it on Smokstak, I'm making a new crank for my > 3 cyl St Lawrence. Here's the link, > > http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117550 Twisting? Holy moly. I?ve heard of crankshafts twisting, but it?s never been in a good way. That?s good stuff, J.B. Thanks for posting it. Rob _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Mar 19 10:08:26 2013 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:08:26 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Tulare Show Message-ID: We will be in California April 6th to 23rd, and were planning to drive down to Tulare for the day. is the show still on? There was a fair bit of talk about the new arrangements etc? Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From George.Best at adp.com Tue Mar 19 10:58:37 2013 From: George.Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:58:37 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Tulare Show In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57B62@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Peter, Yes, the Tulare show aka California Antique Farm Equipment show is still on. I'll be there, but in the vendor area. Come by and say hello. There are a few exhibitors not going this year out of protest to the new fees, but the show will still go on. Remains to be seen though what the future will be for this show. The Agri-Center which puts on the show is a for profit business and supposedly they've lost money on this show the last couple of years, hence the new or higher fees this year. George Ps. See you at Nuenen in May! Should be a great show this year! (of course they are all great shows) -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:08 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Cc: Stationary-Engine Subject: [SEL] Tulare Show We will be in California April 6th to 23rd, and were planning to drive down to Tulare for the day. is the show still on? There was a fair bit of talk about the new arrangements etc? Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. 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From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Mar 19 11:33:40 2013 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:33:40 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Tulare Show In-Reply-To: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57B62@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57B62@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: On 19 March 2013 17:58, Best, George wrote: > Peter, > > Yes, the Tulare show aka California Antique Farm Equipment show is still on. > > I'll be there, but in the vendor area. > Come by and say hello. > > There are a few exhibitors not going this year out of protest to the new fees, but the show will still go on. > > Remains to be seen though what the future will be for this show. The Agri-Center which puts on the show is a for profit business and supposedly they've lost money on this show the last couple of years, hence the new or higher fees this year. > > George > > Ps. See you at Nuenen in May! Should be a great show this year! (of course they are all great shows) Cheers, George, we will look you out at Tulare, and you can return the complement at Nuenen :-)) Numbers at Nuenen are going to be very high this year, I know that the UK visitor/exhibitor numbers are double last years. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From George.Best at adp.com Tue Mar 19 11:45:10 2013 From: George.Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:45:10 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen was RE: Tulare Show Message-ID: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57C11@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> It appears that the number from North American attending the Nuenen show will also be a record this year! -----Original Message-----: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:34 AM > Ps. See you at Nuenen in May! Should be a great show this year! (of course they are all great shows) Cheers, George, we will look you out at Tulare, and you can return the complement at Nuenen :-)) Numbers at Nuenen are going to be very high this year, I know that the UK visitor/exhibitor numbers are double last years. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From rdi at rochester.rr.com Tue Mar 19 12:40:30 2013 From: rdi at rochester.rr.com (Rick I.) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:40:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Crosscut Saw Sharpening References: Message-ID: <4C30F89338A743B9B3FFE3703603BDCB@marlin> Dave R wrote: > This is the BEST thing I've seen on how to sharpen a crosscut saw. The > same information should be easily transferable to a drag saw! > See: > http://www.bchw.org/Tech%20tips/FilerDVD.htm Thanks, Dave! What a great link. This was incredibly interesting and educational; the guy really explains stuff very well and it gives you a good idea just how much work it is to keep a saw in top shape. There's a college nearby that is big into lumberjack competitions, and I have a whole new appreciation for their equipment now. -Rick I. From russell at ncable.com.au Tue Mar 19 15:59:14 2013 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:59:14 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft In-Reply-To: <30442b5c.4905d3.13d82025f64.Webtop.49@charter.net> References: <30442b5c.4905d3.13d82025f64.Webtop.49@charter.net> Message-ID: <9971D7F9-AA5A-4AEB-ACC4-583076280519@ncable.com.au> Wow, way past my skill set. I would never have thought you could twist steel like that either. (not deliberately anyway) Thanks for sharing JB. Russ On 19/03/2013, at 8:37 PM, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > > > SOme of you may have seen it on Smokstak, I'm making a new crank for my > 3 cyl St Lawrence. Here's the link, > > http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117550 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Tue Mar 19 16:30:14 2013 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:30:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft In-Reply-To: <30442b5c.4905d3.13d82025f64.Webtop.49@charter.net> References: <30442b5c.4905d3.13d82025f64.Webtop.49@charter.net> Message-ID: <7E20B5C2BF7C4203999BBB987B84C10B@RoysterPC> This shouldn't be amazing because it's JB, but it's still amazing to me. I never knew about twisting a crankshaft in a good way. Thanks for taking the time to document this JB, it is a great educational thread. No wonder they named that epoxy after you!!!!! Mike -----Original Message----- From: jbcast at charter.net Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 5:37 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft SOme of you may have seen it on Smokstak, I'm making a new crank for my 3 cyl St Lawrence. Here's the link, http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117550 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jbcast at charter.net Tue Mar 19 19:36:50 2013 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 22:36:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft Message-ID: <6de5c798.61be3e.13d85a7f79e.Webtop.43@charter.net> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > WOW JB, You NEVER cease to amaze! > Dave Thanks Dave, hell I amaze myself sometimes. J.B. From jbcast at charter.net Tue Mar 19 19:39:59 2013 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 22:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft Message-ID: <280a1332.61be7d.13d85aad8d4.Webtop.43@charter.net> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:26 AM, jlb94 at juno.com wrote: > WOW !!!! JB, > I would never even THINK of trying to make my own crank. > U-R-The BEST !!! > > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. Thanks Joe, it's not often I get to work on one of my projects, don't have enough sense to say no, but it's all fun. J.B. From jbcast at charter.net Tue Mar 19 20:24:34 2013 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:24:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > Twisting? Holy moly. I?ve heard of crankshafts twisting, but it?s > never been in a good way. > > That?s good stuff, J.B. Thanks for posting it. > Rob Thanks Rob, reminds me of a friend that makes gears, he was telling me about having some gears friction welded to the shaft. He asked if I had ever done any friction welding, I told him not on purpose. J.B. From jbcast at charter.net Tue Mar 19 20:27:12 2013 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:27:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft Message-ID: <3b77ca45.61c337.13d85d61832.Webtop.43@charter.net> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Beautiful work JB!! > > Tommy Turner > Thanks Tommy, I may not need to use the babbitt on this one, the rods were .050" under, on the mains I may leave the crank oversize and fit the bearings to it. J.B. From jbcast at charter.net Tue Mar 19 20:29:22 2013 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:29:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft Message-ID: <4ae2d108.61c365.13d85d81123.Webtop.43@charter.net> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Russell wrote: > Wow, way past my skill set. I would never have thought you could twist > steel like that either. (not deliberately anyway) > Thanks for sharing JB. > Russ Thanks Russ, I've been wanting to try since Mr. Comeaux told me about it. J.B. From jbcast at charter.net Tue Mar 19 20:31:03 2013 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft Message-ID: <711500ad.61c38e.13d85d99b89.Webtop.43@charter.net> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Mike Royster wrote: > This shouldn't be amazing because it's JB, but it's still amazing to > me. I never knew about twisting a crankshaft in a good way. Thanks > for taking the time to document this JB, it is a great educational > thread. No wonder they named that epoxy after you!!!!! > > Mike Thanks Mike, we have the cookout at my camp this weekend, headed to Seve Webre's Friday. J.B. From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Mar 20 10:30:17 2013 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Tulare Show In-Reply-To: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57B62@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57B62@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <9fdf568d22a8913d11b743686c88487d.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> George, Are they charging exhibitors to exhibit? See ya, Arnie On Tue, March 19, 2013 1:58 pm, Best, George wrote: > Peter, > > Yes, the Tulare show aka California Antique Farm Equipment show is still > on. > > I'll be there, but in the vendor area. > Come by and say hello. > > There are a few exhibitors not going this year out of protest to the new > fees, but the show will still go on. > > Remains to be seen though what the future will be for this show. The > Agri-Center which puts on the show is a for profit business and supposedly > they've lost money on this show the last couple of years, hence the new or > higher fees this year. > > George From George.Best at adp.com Wed Mar 20 10:45:07 2013 From: George.Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:45:07 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Tulare Show In-Reply-To: <9fdf568d22a8913d11b743686c88487d.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57B62@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <9fdf568d22a8913d11b743686c88487d.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57F18@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> There is a $10 registration fee this year, plus other fees for butt buggies, etc. What I don't know is if you don't register ahead of time as an exhibitor and just show up at the gate with your engines to show, will they charge the $10 or not. I'm guessing they'll still charge you the $10. I'll be at the show as a vendor and partly am going this year just to see how much their changes will impact the show. What happens this year may decide whether I go there next year or not. After all it is over 800 miles each way for me to make it to that show, so it isn't a cheap trip to make. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 10:30 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Tulare Show George, Are they charging exhibitors to exhibit? See ya, Arnie On Tue, March 19, 2013 1:58 pm, Best, George wrote: > Peter, > > Yes, the Tulare show aka California Antique Farm Equipment show is > still on. > > I'll be there, but in the vendor area. > Come by and say hello. > > There are a few exhibitors not going this year out of protest to the > new fees, but the show will still go on. > > Remains to be seen though what the future will be for this show. The > Agri-Center which puts on the show is a for profit business and > supposedly they've lost money on this show the last couple of years, > hence the new or higher fees this year. > > George _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Mar 20 11:09:57 2013 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:09:57 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Tulare Show In-Reply-To: <9fdf568d22a8913d11b743686c88487d.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57B62@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <9fdf568d22a8913d11b743686c88487d.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: <48831928-AC23-4964-BD25-ADFE97E6B365@rustyiron.com> On Mar 20, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > George, > > Are they charging exhibitors to exhibit? > > See ya, Arnie The processing fee for registration is $10. Camping inside the perimeter (RV or tent) is $80. Camping outside the perimeter is $30. Vehicles on the showgrounds are more $$$. They are adamant that the show will run until 3:00 p.m. on Sunday, and it?s unclear whether they will allow vehicles on the showgrounds before then. Those are the facts. I?ll leave it to you to interpret them as you will. From George.Best at adp.com Wed Mar 20 12:36:46 2013 From: George.Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:36:46 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Tulare Show In-Reply-To: <48831928-AC23-4964-BD25-ADFE97E6B365@rustyiron.com> References: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57B62@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <9fdf568d22a8913d11b743686c88487d.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> <48831928-AC23-4964-BD25-ADFE97E6B365@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57F8F@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> I've stayed until Sunday afternoon a few times, but for me to do so means taking Monday off as a vacation day. Most years and including this on too, I plan on loading up Saturday evening and heading home. With 800+ miles to go I need to leave early to so I can be at work at 7am on Monday. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:10 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Tulare Show On Mar 20, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > George, > > Are they charging exhibitors to exhibit? > > See ya, Arnie The processing fee for registration is $10. Camping inside the perimeter (RV or tent) is $80. Camping outside the perimeter is $30. Vehicles on the showgrounds are more $$$. They are adamant that the show will run until 3:00 p.m. on Sunday, and it's unclear whether they will allow vehicles on the showgrounds before then. Those are the facts. I'll leave it to you to interpret them as you will. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 20 17:01:19 2013 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:01:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Tulare Show In-Reply-To: <48831928-AC23-4964-BD25-ADFE97E6B365@rustyiron.com> References: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57B62@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <9fdf568d22a8913d11b743686c88487d.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> <48831928-AC23-4964-BD25-ADFE97E6B365@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <81B484F9-9FA3-4044-84F0-93D5C3E929C2@me.com> It's now a GOOD SHOW from which to STAY AWAY! Dave On Mar 20, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > On Mar 20, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > >> George, >> >> Are they charging exhibitors to exhibit? >> >> See ya, Arnie > > > The processing fee for registration is $10. > Camping inside the perimeter (RV or tent) is $80. > Camping outside the perimeter is $30. > Vehicles on the showgrounds are more $$$. > > They are adamant that the show will run until 3:00 p.m. on Sunday, and it?s unclear whether they will allow vehicles on the showgrounds before then. > > Those are the facts. I?ll leave it to you to interpret them as you will. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Wed Mar 27 01:12:16 2013 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 19:12:16 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Austral register update March 2013 Message-ID: I have finally had some time to update the online page of the register with more engines and a lot more photos: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austreg/australreg0313web.htm Enjoy! Patrick Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Mar 27 01:39:27 2013 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 19:39:27 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron welding Message-ID: Hi Guys I know this has been discussed before, but I guess unless you are interested at the time you don?t take it in. My friend has a tractor that has a cracked housing at the front, not sure exactly, but it is a load bearing part. OK, what is the best way to weld this here in Australia, type of rods, techniques, pre-heating, cooling etc. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Australia From wilson at stny.rr.com Wed Mar 27 03:00:47 2013 From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 06:00:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron welding In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6BE85BB0-AC49-4A0F-8670-12D36B9EA484@stny.rr.com> Nickel rod. Before welding grind down so you'll be able to weld most of the broken surface but not all the way to a point as you'll still need to be able to align the two parts and the bit of surface that you leave can help align. Weld Only where there is NO wind or people moving around! Preheat very well. Weld just a little bit then continue tapping the welded part with the point of your chipping hammer at the same time you are continuing to "preheat". The heat you are adding propane or butane. Acetylene could be used but keep it moving! After your weld and the parent metal have settled to the same temperature, you are ready to weld a little bit more. Continue until it is all welded. Adding extra weld larger than the original sometimes will make your end product stronger. Now that your piece seems exceedingly hot try your best to let it cool as slow as possible. No wind. No water. Blankets or sand etc can help unless you blanket catches fire - oops. Good luck. I've been pretty lucky using this procedure. Glenn Wilson www.WilsonsWarbler.com On Mar 27, 2013, at 4:39 AM, "Peter Lowe" wrote: Hi Guys I know this has been discussed before, but I guess unless you are interested at the time you don?t take it in. My friend has a tractor that has a cracked housing at the front, not sure exactly, but it is a load bearing part. OK, what is the best way to weld this here in Australia, type of rods, techniques, pre-heating, cooling etc. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Australia _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From cemsweller at frontier.com Wed Mar 27 03:31:11 2013 From: cemsweller at frontier.com (Chuck Emsweller) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 06:31:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OFES Meeting, all Welcome. (Win a Yellow Dog lamp!!) In-Reply-To: <1361924041.1799.5.camel@ubuntu> References: <1361924041.1799.5.camel@ubuntu> Message-ID: <000001ce2ad6$342ceb10$9c86c130$@com> Rusty, If you need a count for the OFES Dinner, put us down for 5 adults, 2 kids. Looking forward to a good season for playing with them greasy ol' toys! See you the 6th. Chuck Emsweller -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell Farmer Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 7:14 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] OFES Meeting, all Welcome. (Win a Yellow Dog lamp!!) The OFES Dinner Meeting Will be held at: The ?Hearthstone? Restaurant. In Metamora Indiana located on Route 52 west of Brookville Date and time: Saturday April 6th 2013 at 4 pm. This date coincides with the Swap meet held by the Franklin County Antique Machinery Club at Brookville Indiana. Swap meet hours are 9 am to 3 pm and admission to swap is $3; for more Swap info see. www.fcamc.org We do hope that you and your party will be able to join us this year at the dinner where our Honoree this year Baylin Neederman will be naming his successor and also our Grand Master Scott Corbin will be giving the Grand Masters address and will also be appointing the new Grand Master for 2013-2014. We also plan to have an initiation ceremonial for any whom you may bring who would like to join the society. Several members have already generously donated door prizes and among other prizes is a Yellow Dog lantern donated by Robert Hartman of ?Burns and Horner? engine parts company. Each attendee will have a chance to win. Please pass the word along to any who you think would like to come. Please RSVP with the number in your party by April 4th 2013 by calling 1-937-456-9387 or via email to oilengine at embarqmail.com __________________ R. Farmer No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Mar 27 03:54:19 2013 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:54:19 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron welding In-Reply-To: <6BE85BB0-AC49-4A0F-8670-12D36B9EA484@stny.rr.com> References: <6BE85BB0-AC49-4A0F-8670-12D36B9EA484@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: <99E705301320430F82C4E4BFD8C5412B@PeterPC> Thank you, will pass it on. Peter Nickel rod. Before welding grind down so you'll be able to weld most of the broken surface but not all the way to a point as you'll still need to be able to align the two parts and the bit of surface that you leave can help align. Weld Only where there is NO wind or people moving around! Preheat very well. Weld just a little bit then continue tapping the welded part with the point of your chipping hammer at the same time you are continuing to "preheat". The heat you are adding propane or butane. Acetylene could be used but keep it moving! After your weld and the parent metal have settled to the same temperature, you are ready to weld a little bit more. Continue until it is all welded. Adding extra weld larger than the original sometimes will make your end product stronger. Now that your piece seems exceedingly hot try your best to let it cool as slow as possible. No wind. No water. Blankets or sand etc can help unless you blanket catches fire - oops. Good luck. I've been pretty lucky using this procedure. Glenn Wilson www.WilsonsWarbler.com On Mar 27, 2013, at 4:39 AM, "Peter Lowe" wrote: Hi Guys I know this has been discussed before, but I guess unless you are interested at the time you don?t take it in. My friend has a tractor that has a cracked housing at the front, not sure exactly, but it is a load bearing part. OK, what is the best way to weld this here in Australia, type of rods, techniques, pre-heating, cooling etc. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Australia _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Wed Mar 27 04:07:25 2013 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 22:07:25 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron welding References: <6BE85BB0-AC49-4A0F-8670-12D36B9EA484@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: <77C352B0E57D45B2ADA58F08DDA6DF46@regpc> There are a lot of new type rods on the market for cast iron. Consult the experts for the best on your job. The new stuff allows better repairs, with more 'flex' on cooling, etc. Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Wilson" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Cast iron welding > > Hi Guys > I know this has been discussed before, but I guess unless you are > interested at the time you don?t take it in. > My friend has a tractor that has a cracked housing at the front, not sure > exactly, but it is a load bearing part. > OK, what is the best way to weld this here in Australia, type of rods, > techniques, pre-heating, cooling etc. From edstoller at earthlink.net Wed Mar 27 09:49:26 2013 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed Stoller) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:49:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron welding References: <6BE85BB0-AC49-4A0F-8670-12D36B9EA484@stny.rr.com> <77C352B0E57D45B2ADA58F08DDA6DF46@regpc> Message-ID: <25B6D212562C4B79A06A748358939D59@edlaptop> Life is temporary and I always wanted to learn how to weld. My first major project is about 18 inches of crack in a WWII Onan generator block from being dropped. I am using a MIG, Silicone Bronze wire and Aragon gas. I had planned to use Stainless Steel wire, but the Helium gas for it was much more expensive. I am also welding a crack in the CI muffler. I am doing short, less than and inch stitches and then letting it cool. So far, no new cracks. I think the MIG in not putting as much heat into the block as a stick welder would, but also think I am not getting much penetration, which I probably don't need any way. The main problem I have is that the weld seems to want to form large blobs. I am glad I started on the inside of the block where the weld will be out of site. The Bronze is easy to grind down and I expect to be able to drill it if I need to. My practice welds with flux core wire got much better with practice, But it looks like I have to live with the blobs of bronze. Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT, USA www.enginesandmagnets.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reg Ingold" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:07 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Cast iron welding > There are a lot of new type rods on the market for cast iron. Consult the > experts for the best on your job. > The new stuff allows better repairs, with more 'flex' on cooling, etc. > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenn Wilson" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:00 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Cast iron welding > > >> >> Hi Guys >> I know this has been discussed before, but I guess unless you are >> interested at the time you don?t take it in. >> My friend has a tractor that has a cracked housing at the front, not sure >> exactly, but it is a load bearing part. >> OK, what is the best way to weld this here in Australia, type of rods, >> techniques, pre-heating, cooling etc. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rfinksr at verizon.net Wed Mar 27 15:29:28 2013 From: rfinksr at verizon.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:29:28 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron welding References: <6BE85BB0-AC49-4A0F-8670-12D36B9EA484@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: <4AF48AE7E71F4FB39ACB97E09F68A870@COMPAQ> Glenn i learned something from an older welder after grinding take a torch and go over that area and hit the air on it. It will remove the grinding dust that can not be seen. It has always worked for me in seeing the end weld. R Fink ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Wilson" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 5:00 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Cast iron welding > Nickel rod. Before welding grind down so you'll be able to weld most of > the broken surface but not all the way to a point as you'll still need to > be able to align the two parts and the bit of surface that you leave can > help align. Weld Only where there is NO wind or people moving around! > Preheat very well. Weld just a little bit then continue tapping the welded > part with the point of your chipping hammer at the same time you are > continuing to "preheat". The heat you are adding propane or butane. > Acetylene could be used but keep it moving! After your weld and the parent > metal have settled to the same temperature, you are ready to weld a little > bit more. Continue until it is all welded. Adding extra weld larger than > the original sometimes will make your end product stronger. Now that your > piece seems exceedingly hot try your best to let it cool as slow as > possible. No wind. No water. Blankets or sand etc can help unless you > blanket catches fire - oops. Good luck. I've been pretty lucky using this > procedure. > > Glenn Wilson > www.WilsonsWarbler.com > > On Mar 27, 2013, at 4:39 AM, "Peter Lowe" wrote: > > Hi Guys > I know this has been discussed before, but I guess unless you are > interested at the time you don?t take it in. > My friend has a tractor that has a cracked housing at the front, not sure > exactly, but it is a load bearing part. > OK, what is the best way to weld this here in Australia, type of rods, > techniques, pre-heating, cooling etc. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > Australia > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rfinksr at verizon.net Wed Mar 27 15:34:15 2013 From: rfinksr at verizon.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:34:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron welding References: <6BE85BB0-AC49-4A0F-8670-12D36B9EA484@stny.rr.com> <77C352B0E57D45B2ADA58F08DDA6DF46@regpc> <25B6D212562C4B79A06A748358939D59@edlaptop> Message-ID: <78C89D83CC604E2FB1E3554DD797A4DE@COMPAQ> ED i am no welder but have welded some cast. I have welded it with mild steel on my mig with mix of argon and regular gas it was 60-40 mix. All to there own style. I have not kept up to date on new welding wire. R Fink ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Stoller" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Cast iron welding > Life is temporary and I always wanted to learn how to weld. My first major > project is about 18 inches of crack in a WWII Onan generator block from > being dropped. I am using a MIG, Silicone Bronze wire and Aragon gas. I > had planned to use Stainless Steel wire, but the Helium gas for it was > much more expensive. I am also welding a crack in the CI muffler. I am > doing short, less than and inch stitches and then letting it cool. So far, > no new cracks. I think the MIG in not putting as much heat into the block > as a stick welder would, but also think I am not getting much penetration, > which I probably don't need any way. The main problem I have is that the > weld seems to want to form large blobs. I am glad I started on the inside > of the block where the weld will be out of site. The Bronze is easy to > grind down and I expect to be able to drill it if I need to. My practice > welds with flux core wire got much better with practice, But it looks like > I have to live with the blobs of bronze. > > Ed Stoller > New Fairfield, CT, USA > www.enginesandmagnets.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Reg Ingold" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:07 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Cast iron welding > > >> There are a lot of new type rods on the market for cast iron. Consult >> the >> experts for the best on your job. >> The new stuff allows better repairs, with more 'flex' on cooling, etc. >> Reg & Marg Ingold >> Newcastle NSW Australia >> randmingold at hotkey.net.au >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Glenn Wilson" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Cast iron welding >> >> >>> >>> Hi Guys >>> I know this has been discussed before, but I guess unless you are >>> interested at the time you don?t take it in. >>> My friend has a tractor that has a cracked housing at the front, not >>> sure >>> exactly, but it is a load bearing part. >>> OK, what is the best way to weld this here in Australia, type of rods, >>> techniques, pre-heating, cooling etc. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Jim at hardmanfamily.net Thu Mar 28 10:49:19 2013 From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net (Jim Hardman) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 13:49:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] BIG Engines Message-ID: BIG engines: http://www.vincelewis.net/bigengine.html Difficult to tote to local engine shows. Have a good day! Jim in Vermont From rotigel at me.com Thu Mar 28 11:13:32 2013 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:13:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] BIG Engines In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I thought that some MAYTAGS were a PAIN to move around! See: http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/maytag/maytag_fun.html for a BIG MAYTAG. Click on "Craig and the 40 HP Maytag" Dave On Mar 28, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Jim Hardman wrote: > BIG engines: > > http://www.vincelewis.net/bigengine.html > > Difficult to tote to local engine shows. > > Have a good day! > > Jim in Vermont > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Mar 4 10:03:19 2013 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 13:03:19 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Keeping the kids keen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7250DC11D3A54F028CA56EC1549339CE@RoysterPC> You can't start them too young! -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Livingstone Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 10:57 PM To: ATIS ; Oldengine Subject: Keeping the kids keen Samuel is learning fast. He is already trying to get an engine going on his own. He has watched me carefully starting the model Eclipse and almost has it sorted ;) A quick video on youtube at: http://youtu.be/uV-P6gh7m-s Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html To UN-subscribe, send a message to: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org with: unsubscribe in the subject of the message. Nothing else, no SIGs, etc. From rdhaskell at juno.com Fri Mar 8 11:13:37 2013 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:13:37 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Knox engines Message-ID: <20130308.111406.1556.117541@mailpop02.vgs.untd.com> These are the engines remaining at Knox. The URL looks strange, can you open it? https://plus.google.com/photos/104862591013550196821/albums?banner=pwa&gp src=pwrd1#photos/104862591013550196821/albums/5853036812796330049 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2 From Vivas1993 at aol.com Fri Mar 8 11:36:45 2013 From: Vivas1993 at aol.com (Vivas1993 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 14:36:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Knox engines Message-ID: <6bdd.4d1f1f12.3e6b97cd@aol.com> Came through fine here Ron. Thanks, Dwight In a message dated 3/8/2013 2:19:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rdhaskell at juno.com writes: https://plus.google.com/photos/104862591013550196821/albums?banner=pwa&gp src=pwrd1#photos/104862591013550196821/albums/5853036812796330049 From rdhaskell at juno.com Fri Mar 8 11:42:45 2013 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:42:45 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Remaining engines at the Knox sale Message-ID: <20130308.114254.28750.188315@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com> Hi all. Here are some pictures of the remaining engines at the Knox property. The captions have the engine number and price. Some engines are already under consideration but no $ has changed hands yet. If you have an interest contact me and I will put you with the people who make the deals. I can probably help with shipping. The engines are 30 miles away from me, so be patient. https://picasaweb.google.com/104862591013550196821/Knox3# Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2 From mickc782 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 8 11:55:20 2013 From: mickc782 at hotmail.com (michael christie) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 06:55:20 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Knox engines Message-ID: gday ron thanks for the link. yes it does look.strange but opened up fine. yeah not many there left to go. still wouldnt mind the little green john deere but price would have to be a little cheaper though for me to take the punt. you gunna buy any more from there? the economeys look good cheers mick -----Original Message----- From: rdhaskell at juno.com Sent: 8 Mar 2013 19:20:37 GMT To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Knox engines These are the engines remaining at Knox. The URL looks strange, can you open it? https://plus.google.com/photos/104862591013550196821/albums?banner=pwa&gp src=pwrd1#photos/104862591013550196821/albums/5853036812796330049 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Mar 8 11:43:10 2013 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:43:10 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Knox engines In-Reply-To: <20130308.111406.1556.117541@mailpop02.vgs.untd.com> References: <20130308.111406.1556.117541@mailpop02.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: On Mar 8, 2013, at 11:13 AM, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote: > These are the engines remaining at Knox. The URL looks strange, can you > open it? > https://plus.google.com/photos/104862591013550196821/albums?banner=pwa&gp > src=pwrd1#photos/104862591013550196821/albums/5853036812796330049 Works for me, Ron, if I cut the WHOLE link and then paste it into the browser. Long URLs that come from you via SEL are always chopped in half. I don?t know why. If you want to fix it for those readers of your email who are not adept at cutting and pasting, there are plenty of services that will shorten a URL. You might want to try Google?s at http://goo.gl. Paste in your long URL, click, and it will give you a short URL, such as this: http://goo.gl/Fofpl. It looks like only a few engines are left. Perhaps they can go in the Hit & Miss. Rob From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Fri Mar 8 12:36:09 2013 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 07:36:09 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Knox engines References: <20130308.111406.1556.117541@mailpop02.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <3E4661A0FA5548A8886030D1EA3D3655@regpc> No! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 6:13 AM Subject: [SEL] Knox engines > These are the engines remaining at Knox. The URL looks strange, can you > open it? > https://plus.google.com/photos/104862591013550196821/albums?banner=pwa&gp > src=pwrd1#photos/104862591013550196821/albums/5853036812796330049 > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > ____________________________________________________________ > Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. > http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Fri Mar 8 16:40:39 2013 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 16:40:39 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Knox engines Message-ID: <20130308.164136.28661.25305@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> G'day Mick There are three 1 1/2 hp JD, which one would you like, and how much do you want to pay? Here they are double what they should be, just because they say John Deere on the side. No, I am maxed out on engines unless it is really cheap or calls my name very loudly. The 5 hp Economy is the closest to calling my name. Have a great weekend. Cheers Ron. On Sat, 9 Mar 2013 06:55:20 +1100 michael christie writes: > gday ron > thanks for the link. yes it does look.strange but opened up fine. > yeah not many there left to go. still wouldnt mind the little green > john deere but price would have to be a little cheaper though for me > to take the punt. you gunna buy any more from there? the economeys > look good > cheers > mick ____________________________________________________________ How to Sleep Like a Rock Obey this one natural trick to fall asleep and stay asleep all night. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/513a857a55aad57a3e7dst01vuc From jlb94 at juno.com Sat Mar 9 10:22:31 2013 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 18:22:31 GMT Subject: [SEL] Knox engines Message-ID: <20130309.132231.1749.5@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> I opened it - Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die I want to go where they went. (_0_) "In memory of Bre-Dog" ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Reg Ingold" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] Knox engines Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 07:36:09 +1100 No! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 6:13 AM Subject: [SEL] Knox engines > These are the engines remaining at Knox. The URL looks strange, can you > open it? > https://plus.google.com/photos/104862591013550196821/albums?banner=pwa&gp > src=pwrd1#photos/104862591013550196821/albums/5853036812796330049 > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > ____________________________________________________________ > Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. > http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From wboldrusty70 at gmail.com Sat Mar 9 11:55:35 2013 From: wboldrusty70 at gmail.com (William Burg) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 06:55:35 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Knox engines In-Reply-To: <3E4661A0FA5548A8886030D1EA3D3655@regpc> References: <20130308.111406.1556.117541@mailpop02.vgs.untd.com> <3E4661A0FA5548A8886030D1EA3D3655@regpc> Message-ID: Loaded OK for me. William in Newcastle. On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Reg Ingold wrote: > No! > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 6:13 AM > Subject: [SEL] Knox engines > > > > These are the engines remaining at Knox. The URL looks strange, can you > > open it? > > > https://plus.google.com/photos/104862591013550196821/albums?banner=pwa&gp > > src=pwrd1#photos/104862591013550196821/albums/5853036812796330049 > > > > Ron Haskell > > rdhaskell at juno.com > > Riverside, California USA > > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. > > http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2 > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Mar 11 05:24:58 2013 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:24:58 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Message For Reggie Message-ID: Getting emails bouncing back from your email, Reg: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MailEnable: Message Delivery Failure. Reason: ME-E0193: [DA2D97EA0EA541FAA9DA6A352479E94A.MAI] Message Delivery Failure. Your message addressed to the target domain (hotkey.net.au) could not be delivered because the mail server responsible for this domain returned a permanent error. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sent it twice but same result, and was too late to call you (past 10pm your time) New driver board is ordered, paid for and in stock at Hardinge-Bridgeport, should be here tomorrow, will send on via Registered Post. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From ozengine at yahoo.com.au Tue Mar 12 18:21:29 2013 From: ozengine at yahoo.com.au (Graham Harris) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Message For Reggie (Listerdiesel) Message-ID: <1363137689.71773.YahooMailNeo@web163402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Yeah, I still reckon he's kicked the bucket. Whoever replied last time saying I'm?still around couldve been a ghost. Reggies Ghost paranormal Reggie. Why won't my engine start. ? Graham From russell at ncable.com.au Tue Mar 12 21:18:53 2013 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:18:53 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Message For Reggie (Listerdiesel) In-Reply-To: <1363137689.71773.YahooMailNeo@web163402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1363137689.71773.YahooMailNeo@web163402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Reggie s PC has probably shit itself from all the bugs he collects when accidentally passing by titty sites? On 13/03/2013, at 12:21 PM, Graham Harris wrote: > Yeah, I still reckon he's kicked the bucket. Whoever replied last time saying I'm still around couldve been a ghost. Reggies Ghost paranormal Reggie. Why won't my engine start. > > Graham > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Mar 13 07:18:40 2013 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:18:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Message For Reggie (Listerdiesel) In-Reply-To: References: <1363137689.71773.YahooMailNeo@web163402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Accidentally??? Reggie??? Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!! On Wed, March 13, 2013 12:18 am, Russell wrote: > Reggie s PC has probably shit itself from all the bugs he collects when > accidentally passing by titty sites? From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 13 17:05:30 2013 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 20:05:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Baraboo 2013 Message-ID: <31FE14D4-7A45-4A1E-8044-603960C0E49E@me.com> Arnie, I've ordered two BLACK wristbands for us for Baraboo! (Or perhaps we should just stay home this year!) See: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/wisconsin-s-vista-program-encourages-volunteers-overcome-white-privilege Dave From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 13 21:40:28 2013 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (=?utf-8?B?c2x1Z2dvNTRAaG90bWFpbC5jb20=?=) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 22:40:28 -0600 Subject: [SEL] =?utf-8?q?Baraboo_2013?= Message-ID: "One ?diversity? document linked to DPI?s Web site suggests that white people ?wear a white wristband as a reminder about your privilege, and as a personal commitment to explain why you wear the wristband.? This will be at least as effective as tying a red ribbon on your truck to bring drunk driving to a sliding halt. Bruce Younger sluggo64 at hotmail.com I practice the art of Klik Pao ----- Reply message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" Date: Wed, Mar 13, 2013 18:05 Subject: Baraboo 2013 To: , "The SEL email discussion list" Arnie, I've ordered two BLACK wristbands for us for Baraboo! (Or perhaps we should just stay home this year!) See: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/wisconsin-s-vista-program-encourages-volunteers-overcome-white-privilege Dave From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Mar 14 05:19:40 2013 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:19:40 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Message For Reggie (Listerdiesel) In-Reply-To: References: <1363137689.71773.YahooMailNeo@web163402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 13 March 2013 14:18, Arnie Fero wrote: > Accidentally??? Reggie??? Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!! > > On Wed, March 13, 2013 12:18 am, Russell wrote: >> Reggie s PC has probably shit itself from all the bugs he collects when >> accidentally passing by titty sites? He is alive and well, I had a chat with him yesterday when his power supply arrived here. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From Germoamer at aol.com Fri Mar 15 05:47:51 2013 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:47:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] estate sale Message-ID: <5f96.f24b891.3e747277@aol.com> _http://www.estatesales.net/estate-sales/401379.aspx_ (http://www.estatesales.net/estate-sales/401379.aspx) Anyone around the Knoxville, Tn. area, there is an estate sale this weekend that says there are 4 H/M motors, only photos of two showing. One looks like maybe in original shape with Webster mag. Lots of other collectable items there listed. Wish I lived closer. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at aol.com From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Mon Mar 18 01:56:04 2013 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:56:04 +1100 Subject: [SEL] 2013 Canberra Rally Message-ID: Some pics from the 2013 Canberra Rally at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/can2013/index.htm Enjoy! Patrick Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From obise at moscow.com Mon Mar 18 07:49:17 2013 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:49:17 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 2013 Canberra Rally In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5147296D.5050602@moscow.com> As usual, Patrick, your pictures are superb. Thank you for posting. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 3/18/2013 1:56 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote: > Some pics from the 2013 Canberra Rally at: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/can2013/index.htm > Enjoy! > Patrick From rotigel at me.com Mon Mar 18 17:25:46 2013 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:25:46 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam> Crosscut Saw Sharpening Message-ID: <013ECA95-1D4E-4F65-A13E-BF4447303690@me.com> This is the BEST thing I've seen on how to sharpen a crosscut saw. The same information should be easily transferable to a drag saw! See: http://www.bchw.org/Tech%20tips/FilerDVD.htm Dave From jbcast at charter.net Tue Mar 19 02:37:06 2013 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 05:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft Message-ID: <30442b5c.4905d3.13d82025f64.Webtop.49@charter.net> SOme of you may have seen it on Smokstak, I'm making a new crank for my 3 cyl St Lawrence. Here's the link, http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117550 From rotigel at me.com Tue Mar 19 03:51:44 2013 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 06:51:44 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft In-Reply-To: <30442b5c.4905d3.13d82025f64.Webtop.49@charter.net> References: <30442b5c.4905d3.13d82025f64.Webtop.49@charter.net> Message-ID: WOW JB, You NEVER cease to amaze! Dave On Mar 19, 2013, at 5:37 AM, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > > > SOme of you may have seen it on Smokstak, I'm making a new crank for my > 3 cyl St Lawrence. Here's the link, > > http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117550 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jlb94 at juno.com Tue Mar 19 07:26:45 2013 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:26:45 GMT Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft Message-ID: <20130319.102645.23123.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> WOW !!!! JB, I would never even THINK of trying to make my own crank. U-R-The BEST !!! Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-, If there are no dogs in heaven, \/)"(\/ when I die I want to go where they went. (_0_) "In memory of Bre-Dog" ---------- Original Message ---------- From: jbcast at charter.net To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 05:37:06 -0400 (EDT) SOme of you may have seen it on Smokstak, I'm making a new crank for my 3 cyl St Lawrence. Here's the link, http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117550 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Tue Mar 19 07:39:22 2013 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:39:22 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft In-Reply-To: <30442b5c.4905d3.13d82025f64.Webtop.49@charter.net> References: <30442b5c.4905d3.13d82025f64.Webtop.49@charter.net> Message-ID: On Mar 19, 2013, at 2:37 AM, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > SOme of you may have seen it on Smokstak, I'm making a new crank for my > 3 cyl St Lawrence. Here's the link, > > http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117550 Twisting? Holy moly. I?ve heard of crankshafts twisting, but it?s never been in a good way. That?s good stuff, J.B. Thanks for posting it. Rob From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue Mar 19 08:33:01 2013 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:33:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft In-Reply-To: <20130319.102645.23123.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> References: <20130319.102645.23123.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <004001ce24b7$0b30dd90$219298b0$@scrtc.com> Beautiful work JB!! Tommy Turner SOme of you may have seen it on Smokstak, I'm making a new crank for my 3 cyl St Lawrence. Here's the link, http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117550 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com Tue Mar 19 09:17:29 2013 From: skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com (Skip) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:17:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft References: <30442b5c.4905d3.13d82025f64.Webtop.49@charter.net> Message-ID: <49C4765D00244A7FBB0B19449AFA6790@skipcc87290b37> Here is a nice article on the crank twist or not twist. Or you can Google it your self. Skip http://www.precisionenginetech.com/tech-explained/2009/06/02/forged-crankshaft-tech-part-2/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Making a crankshaft On Mar 19, 2013, at 2:37 AM, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > SOme of you may have seen it on Smokstak, I'm making a new crank for my > 3 cyl St Lawrence. Here's the link, > > http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117550 Twisting? Holy moly. I?ve heard of crankshafts twisting, but it?s never been in a good way. That?s good stuff, J.B. Thanks for posting it. Rob _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Mar 19 10:08:26 2013 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:08:26 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Tulare Show Message-ID: We will be in California April 6th to 23rd, and were planning to drive down to Tulare for the day. is the show still on? There was a fair bit of talk about the new arrangements etc? Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From George.Best at adp.com Tue Mar 19 10:58:37 2013 From: George.Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:58:37 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Tulare Show In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57B62@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Peter, Yes, the Tulare show aka California Antique Farm Equipment show is still on. I'll be there, but in the vendor area. Come by and say hello. There are a few exhibitors not going this year out of protest to the new fees, but the show will still go on. Remains to be seen though what the future will be for this show. The Agri-Center which puts on the show is a for profit business and supposedly they've lost money on this show the last couple of years, hence the new or higher fees this year. George Ps. See you at Nuenen in May! Should be a great show this year! (of course they are all great shows) -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:08 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Cc: Stationary-Engine Subject: [SEL] Tulare Show We will be in California April 6th to 23rd, and were planning to drive down to Tulare for the day. is the show still on? There was a fair bit of talk about the new arrangements etc? Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. 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From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Mar 19 11:33:40 2013 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:33:40 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Tulare Show In-Reply-To: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57B62@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57B62@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: On 19 March 2013 17:58, Best, George wrote: > Peter, > > Yes, the Tulare show aka California Antique Farm Equipment show is still on. > > I'll be there, but in the vendor area. > Come by and say hello. > > There are a few exhibitors not going this year out of protest to the new fees, but the show will still go on. > > Remains to be seen though what the future will be for this show. The Agri-Center which puts on the show is a for profit business and supposedly they've lost money on this show the last couple of years, hence the new or higher fees this year. > > George > > Ps. See you at Nuenen in May! Should be a great show this year! (of course they are all great shows) Cheers, George, we will look you out at Tulare, and you can return the complement at Nuenen :-)) Numbers at Nuenen are going to be very high this year, I know that the UK visitor/exhibitor numbers are double last years. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From George.Best at adp.com Tue Mar 19 11:45:10 2013 From: George.Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:45:10 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen was RE: Tulare Show Message-ID: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57C11@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> It appears that the number from North American attending the Nuenen show will also be a record this year! -----Original Message-----: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:34 AM > Ps. See you at Nuenen in May! Should be a great show this year! (of course they are all great shows) Cheers, George, we will look you out at Tulare, and you can return the complement at Nuenen :-)) Numbers at Nuenen are going to be very high this year, I know that the UK visitor/exhibitor numbers are double last years. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From rdi at rochester.rr.com Tue Mar 19 12:40:30 2013 From: rdi at rochester.rr.com (Rick I.) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:40:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Crosscut Saw Sharpening References: Message-ID: <4C30F89338A743B9B3FFE3703603BDCB@marlin> Dave R wrote: > This is the BEST thing I've seen on how to sharpen a crosscut saw. The > same information should be easily transferable to a drag saw! > See: > http://www.bchw.org/Tech%20tips/FilerDVD.htm Thanks, Dave! What a great link. This was incredibly interesting and educational; the guy really explains stuff very well and it gives you a good idea just how much work it is to keep a saw in top shape. There's a college nearby that is big into lumberjack competitions, and I have a whole new appreciation for their equipment now. -Rick I. From russell at ncable.com.au Tue Mar 19 15:59:14 2013 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:59:14 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft In-Reply-To: <30442b5c.4905d3.13d82025f64.Webtop.49@charter.net> References: <30442b5c.4905d3.13d82025f64.Webtop.49@charter.net> Message-ID: <9971D7F9-AA5A-4AEB-ACC4-583076280519@ncable.com.au> Wow, way past my skill set. I would never have thought you could twist steel like that either. (not deliberately anyway) Thanks for sharing JB. Russ On 19/03/2013, at 8:37 PM, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > > > SOme of you may have seen it on Smokstak, I'm making a new crank for my > 3 cyl St Lawrence. Here's the link, > > http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117550 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Tue Mar 19 16:30:14 2013 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:30:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft In-Reply-To: <30442b5c.4905d3.13d82025f64.Webtop.49@charter.net> References: <30442b5c.4905d3.13d82025f64.Webtop.49@charter.net> Message-ID: <7E20B5C2BF7C4203999BBB987B84C10B@RoysterPC> This shouldn't be amazing because it's JB, but it's still amazing to me. I never knew about twisting a crankshaft in a good way. Thanks for taking the time to document this JB, it is a great educational thread. No wonder they named that epoxy after you!!!!! Mike -----Original Message----- From: jbcast at charter.net Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 5:37 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft SOme of you may have seen it on Smokstak, I'm making a new crank for my 3 cyl St Lawrence. Here's the link, http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117550 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jbcast at charter.net Tue Mar 19 19:36:50 2013 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 22:36:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft Message-ID: <6de5c798.61be3e.13d85a7f79e.Webtop.43@charter.net> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > WOW JB, You NEVER cease to amaze! > Dave Thanks Dave, hell I amaze myself sometimes. J.B. From jbcast at charter.net Tue Mar 19 19:39:59 2013 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 22:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft Message-ID: <280a1332.61be7d.13d85aad8d4.Webtop.43@charter.net> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:26 AM, jlb94 at juno.com wrote: > WOW !!!! JB, > I would never even THINK of trying to make my own crank. > U-R-The BEST !!! > > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. Thanks Joe, it's not often I get to work on one of my projects, don't have enough sense to say no, but it's all fun. J.B. From jbcast at charter.net Tue Mar 19 20:24:34 2013 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:24:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > Twisting? Holy moly. I?ve heard of crankshafts twisting, but it?s > never been in a good way. > > That?s good stuff, J.B. Thanks for posting it. > Rob Thanks Rob, reminds me of a friend that makes gears, he was telling me about having some gears friction welded to the shaft. He asked if I had ever done any friction welding, I told him not on purpose. J.B. From jbcast at charter.net Tue Mar 19 20:27:12 2013 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:27:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft Message-ID: <3b77ca45.61c337.13d85d61832.Webtop.43@charter.net> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Beautiful work JB!! > > Tommy Turner > Thanks Tommy, I may not need to use the babbitt on this one, the rods were .050" under, on the mains I may leave the crank oversize and fit the bearings to it. J.B. From jbcast at charter.net Tue Mar 19 20:29:22 2013 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:29:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft Message-ID: <4ae2d108.61c365.13d85d81123.Webtop.43@charter.net> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Russell wrote: > Wow, way past my skill set. I would never have thought you could twist > steel like that either. (not deliberately anyway) > Thanks for sharing JB. > Russ Thanks Russ, I've been wanting to try since Mr. Comeaux told me about it. J.B. From jbcast at charter.net Tue Mar 19 20:31:03 2013 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Making a crankshaft Message-ID: <711500ad.61c38e.13d85d99b89.Webtop.43@charter.net> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Mike Royster wrote: > This shouldn't be amazing because it's JB, but it's still amazing to > me. I never knew about twisting a crankshaft in a good way. Thanks > for taking the time to document this JB, it is a great educational > thread. No wonder they named that epoxy after you!!!!! > > Mike Thanks Mike, we have the cookout at my camp this weekend, headed to Seve Webre's Friday. J.B. From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Mar 20 10:30:17 2013 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Tulare Show In-Reply-To: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57B62@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57B62@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <9fdf568d22a8913d11b743686c88487d.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> George, Are they charging exhibitors to exhibit? See ya, Arnie On Tue, March 19, 2013 1:58 pm, Best, George wrote: > Peter, > > Yes, the Tulare show aka California Antique Farm Equipment show is still > on. > > I'll be there, but in the vendor area. > Come by and say hello. > > There are a few exhibitors not going this year out of protest to the new > fees, but the show will still go on. > > Remains to be seen though what the future will be for this show. The > Agri-Center which puts on the show is a for profit business and supposedly > they've lost money on this show the last couple of years, hence the new or > higher fees this year. > > George From George.Best at adp.com Wed Mar 20 10:45:07 2013 From: George.Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:45:07 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Tulare Show In-Reply-To: <9fdf568d22a8913d11b743686c88487d.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57B62@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <9fdf568d22a8913d11b743686c88487d.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57F18@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> There is a $10 registration fee this year, plus other fees for butt buggies, etc. What I don't know is if you don't register ahead of time as an exhibitor and just show up at the gate with your engines to show, will they charge the $10 or not. I'm guessing they'll still charge you the $10. I'll be at the show as a vendor and partly am going this year just to see how much their changes will impact the show. What happens this year may decide whether I go there next year or not. After all it is over 800 miles each way for me to make it to that show, so it isn't a cheap trip to make. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 10:30 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Tulare Show George, Are they charging exhibitors to exhibit? See ya, Arnie On Tue, March 19, 2013 1:58 pm, Best, George wrote: > Peter, > > Yes, the Tulare show aka California Antique Farm Equipment show is > still on. > > I'll be there, but in the vendor area. > Come by and say hello. > > There are a few exhibitors not going this year out of protest to the > new fees, but the show will still go on. > > Remains to be seen though what the future will be for this show. The > Agri-Center which puts on the show is a for profit business and > supposedly they've lost money on this show the last couple of years, > hence the new or higher fees this year. > > George _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Mar 20 11:09:57 2013 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:09:57 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Tulare Show In-Reply-To: <9fdf568d22a8913d11b743686c88487d.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57B62@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <9fdf568d22a8913d11b743686c88487d.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: <48831928-AC23-4964-BD25-ADFE97E6B365@rustyiron.com> On Mar 20, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > George, > > Are they charging exhibitors to exhibit? > > See ya, Arnie The processing fee for registration is $10. Camping inside the perimeter (RV or tent) is $80. Camping outside the perimeter is $30. Vehicles on the showgrounds are more $$$. They are adamant that the show will run until 3:00 p.m. on Sunday, and it?s unclear whether they will allow vehicles on the showgrounds before then. Those are the facts. I?ll leave it to you to interpret them as you will. From George.Best at adp.com Wed Mar 20 12:36:46 2013 From: George.Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:36:46 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Tulare Show In-Reply-To: <48831928-AC23-4964-BD25-ADFE97E6B365@rustyiron.com> References: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57B62@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <9fdf568d22a8913d11b743686c88487d.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> <48831928-AC23-4964-BD25-ADFE97E6B365@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57F8F@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> I've stayed until Sunday afternoon a few times, but for me to do so means taking Monday off as a vacation day. Most years and including this on too, I plan on loading up Saturday evening and heading home. With 800+ miles to go I need to leave early to so I can be at work at 7am on Monday. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:10 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Tulare Show On Mar 20, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > George, > > Are they charging exhibitors to exhibit? > > See ya, Arnie The processing fee for registration is $10. Camping inside the perimeter (RV or tent) is $80. Camping outside the perimeter is $30. Vehicles on the showgrounds are more $$$. They are adamant that the show will run until 3:00 p.m. on Sunday, and it's unclear whether they will allow vehicles on the showgrounds before then. Those are the facts. I'll leave it to you to interpret them as you will. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 20 17:01:19 2013 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:01:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Tulare Show In-Reply-To: <48831928-AC23-4964-BD25-ADFE97E6B365@rustyiron.com> References: <8ED2A37CFAC7D942985D084BE65734550CF57B62@DSXMBX3HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <9fdf568d22a8913d11b743686c88487d.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> <48831928-AC23-4964-BD25-ADFE97E6B365@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <81B484F9-9FA3-4044-84F0-93D5C3E929C2@me.com> It's now a GOOD SHOW from which to STAY AWAY! Dave On Mar 20, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > On Mar 20, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > >> George, >> >> Are they charging exhibitors to exhibit? >> >> See ya, Arnie > > > The processing fee for registration is $10. > Camping inside the perimeter (RV or tent) is $80. > Camping outside the perimeter is $30. > Vehicles on the showgrounds are more $$$. > > They are adamant that the show will run until 3:00 p.m. on Sunday, and it?s unclear whether they will allow vehicles on the showgrounds before then. > > Those are the facts. I?ll leave it to you to interpret them as you will. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Wed Mar 27 01:12:16 2013 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 19:12:16 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Austral register update March 2013 Message-ID: I have finally had some time to update the online page of the register with more engines and a lot more photos: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austreg/australreg0313web.htm Enjoy! Patrick Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Mar 27 01:39:27 2013 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 19:39:27 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron welding Message-ID: Hi Guys I know this has been discussed before, but I guess unless you are interested at the time you don?t take it in. My friend has a tractor that has a cracked housing at the front, not sure exactly, but it is a load bearing part. OK, what is the best way to weld this here in Australia, type of rods, techniques, pre-heating, cooling etc. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Australia From wilson at stny.rr.com Wed Mar 27 03:00:47 2013 From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 06:00:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron welding In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6BE85BB0-AC49-4A0F-8670-12D36B9EA484@stny.rr.com> Nickel rod. Before welding grind down so you'll be able to weld most of the broken surface but not all the way to a point as you'll still need to be able to align the two parts and the bit of surface that you leave can help align. Weld Only where there is NO wind or people moving around! Preheat very well. Weld just a little bit then continue tapping the welded part with the point of your chipping hammer at the same time you are continuing to "preheat". The heat you are adding propane or butane. Acetylene could be used but keep it moving! After your weld and the parent metal have settled to the same temperature, you are ready to weld a little bit more. Continue until it is all welded. Adding extra weld larger than the original sometimes will make your end product stronger. Now that your piece seems exceedingly hot try your best to let it cool as slow as possible. No wind. No water. Blankets or sand etc can help unless you blanket catches fire - oops. Good luck. I've been pretty lucky using this procedure. Glenn Wilson www.WilsonsWarbler.com On Mar 27, 2013, at 4:39 AM, "Peter Lowe" wrote: Hi Guys I know this has been discussed before, but I guess unless you are interested at the time you don?t take it in. My friend has a tractor that has a cracked housing at the front, not sure exactly, but it is a load bearing part. OK, what is the best way to weld this here in Australia, type of rods, techniques, pre-heating, cooling etc. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Australia _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From cemsweller at frontier.com Wed Mar 27 03:31:11 2013 From: cemsweller at frontier.com (Chuck Emsweller) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 06:31:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OFES Meeting, all Welcome. (Win a Yellow Dog lamp!!) In-Reply-To: <1361924041.1799.5.camel@ubuntu> References: <1361924041.1799.5.camel@ubuntu> Message-ID: <000001ce2ad6$342ceb10$9c86c130$@com> Rusty, If you need a count for the OFES Dinner, put us down for 5 adults, 2 kids. Looking forward to a good season for playing with them greasy ol' toys! See you the 6th. Chuck Emsweller -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell Farmer Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 7:14 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] OFES Meeting, all Welcome. (Win a Yellow Dog lamp!!) The OFES Dinner Meeting Will be held at: The ?Hearthstone? Restaurant. In Metamora Indiana located on Route 52 west of Brookville Date and time: Saturday April 6th 2013 at 4 pm. This date coincides with the Swap meet held by the Franklin County Antique Machinery Club at Brookville Indiana. Swap meet hours are 9 am to 3 pm and admission to swap is $3; for more Swap info see. www.fcamc.org We do hope that you and your party will be able to join us this year at the dinner where our Honoree this year Baylin Neederman will be naming his successor and also our Grand Master Scott Corbin will be giving the Grand Masters address and will also be appointing the new Grand Master for 2013-2014. We also plan to have an initiation ceremonial for any whom you may bring who would like to join the society. Several members have already generously donated door prizes and among other prizes is a Yellow Dog lantern donated by Robert Hartman of ?Burns and Horner? engine parts company. Each attendee will have a chance to win. Please pass the word along to any who you think would like to come. Please RSVP with the number in your party by April 4th 2013 by calling 1-937-456-9387 or via email to oilengine at embarqmail.com __________________ R. Farmer No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Mar 27 03:54:19 2013 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:54:19 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron welding In-Reply-To: <6BE85BB0-AC49-4A0F-8670-12D36B9EA484@stny.rr.com> References: <6BE85BB0-AC49-4A0F-8670-12D36B9EA484@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: <99E705301320430F82C4E4BFD8C5412B@PeterPC> Thank you, will pass it on. Peter Nickel rod. Before welding grind down so you'll be able to weld most of the broken surface but not all the way to a point as you'll still need to be able to align the two parts and the bit of surface that you leave can help align. Weld Only where there is NO wind or people moving around! Preheat very well. Weld just a little bit then continue tapping the welded part with the point of your chipping hammer at the same time you are continuing to "preheat". The heat you are adding propane or butane. Acetylene could be used but keep it moving! After your weld and the parent metal have settled to the same temperature, you are ready to weld a little bit more. Continue until it is all welded. Adding extra weld larger than the original sometimes will make your end product stronger. Now that your piece seems exceedingly hot try your best to let it cool as slow as possible. No wind. No water. Blankets or sand etc can help unless you blanket catches fire - oops. Good luck. I've been pretty lucky using this procedure. Glenn Wilson www.WilsonsWarbler.com On Mar 27, 2013, at 4:39 AM, "Peter Lowe" wrote: Hi Guys I know this has been discussed before, but I guess unless you are interested at the time you don?t take it in. My friend has a tractor that has a cracked housing at the front, not sure exactly, but it is a load bearing part. OK, what is the best way to weld this here in Australia, type of rods, techniques, pre-heating, cooling etc. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Australia _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Wed Mar 27 04:07:25 2013 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 22:07:25 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron welding References: <6BE85BB0-AC49-4A0F-8670-12D36B9EA484@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: <77C352B0E57D45B2ADA58F08DDA6DF46@regpc> There are a lot of new type rods on the market for cast iron. Consult the experts for the best on your job. The new stuff allows better repairs, with more 'flex' on cooling, etc. Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Wilson" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Cast iron welding > > Hi Guys > I know this has been discussed before, but I guess unless you are > interested at the time you don?t take it in. > My friend has a tractor that has a cracked housing at the front, not sure > exactly, but it is a load bearing part. > OK, what is the best way to weld this here in Australia, type of rods, > techniques, pre-heating, cooling etc. From edstoller at earthlink.net Wed Mar 27 09:49:26 2013 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed Stoller) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:49:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron welding References: <6BE85BB0-AC49-4A0F-8670-12D36B9EA484@stny.rr.com> <77C352B0E57D45B2ADA58F08DDA6DF46@regpc> Message-ID: <25B6D212562C4B79A06A748358939D59@edlaptop> Life is temporary and I always wanted to learn how to weld. My first major project is about 18 inches of crack in a WWII Onan generator block from being dropped. I am using a MIG, Silicone Bronze wire and Aragon gas. I had planned to use Stainless Steel wire, but the Helium gas for it was much more expensive. I am also welding a crack in the CI muffler. I am doing short, less than and inch stitches and then letting it cool. So far, no new cracks. I think the MIG in not putting as much heat into the block as a stick welder would, but also think I am not getting much penetration, which I probably don't need any way. The main problem I have is that the weld seems to want to form large blobs. I am glad I started on the inside of the block where the weld will be out of site. The Bronze is easy to grind down and I expect to be able to drill it if I need to. My practice welds with flux core wire got much better with practice, But it looks like I have to live with the blobs of bronze. Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT, USA www.enginesandmagnets.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reg Ingold" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:07 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Cast iron welding > There are a lot of new type rods on the market for cast iron. Consult the > experts for the best on your job. > The new stuff allows better repairs, with more 'flex' on cooling, etc. > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenn Wilson" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:00 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Cast iron welding > > >> >> Hi Guys >> I know this has been discussed before, but I guess unless you are >> interested at the time you don?t take it in. >> My friend has a tractor that has a cracked housing at the front, not sure >> exactly, but it is a load bearing part. >> OK, what is the best way to weld this here in Australia, type of rods, >> techniques, pre-heating, cooling etc. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rfinksr at verizon.net Wed Mar 27 15:29:28 2013 From: rfinksr at verizon.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:29:28 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron welding References: <6BE85BB0-AC49-4A0F-8670-12D36B9EA484@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: <4AF48AE7E71F4FB39ACB97E09F68A870@COMPAQ> Glenn i learned something from an older welder after grinding take a torch and go over that area and hit the air on it. It will remove the grinding dust that can not be seen. It has always worked for me in seeing the end weld. R Fink ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Wilson" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 5:00 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Cast iron welding > Nickel rod. Before welding grind down so you'll be able to weld most of > the broken surface but not all the way to a point as you'll still need to > be able to align the two parts and the bit of surface that you leave can > help align. Weld Only where there is NO wind or people moving around! > Preheat very well. Weld just a little bit then continue tapping the welded > part with the point of your chipping hammer at the same time you are > continuing to "preheat". The heat you are adding propane or butane. > Acetylene could be used but keep it moving! After your weld and the parent > metal have settled to the same temperature, you are ready to weld a little > bit more. Continue until it is all welded. Adding extra weld larger than > the original sometimes will make your end product stronger. Now that your > piece seems exceedingly hot try your best to let it cool as slow as > possible. No wind. No water. Blankets or sand etc can help unless you > blanket catches fire - oops. Good luck. I've been pretty lucky using this > procedure. > > Glenn Wilson > www.WilsonsWarbler.com > > On Mar 27, 2013, at 4:39 AM, "Peter Lowe" wrote: > > Hi Guys > I know this has been discussed before, but I guess unless you are > interested at the time you don?t take it in. > My friend has a tractor that has a cracked housing at the front, not sure > exactly, but it is a load bearing part. > OK, what is the best way to weld this here in Australia, type of rods, > techniques, pre-heating, cooling etc. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > Australia > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rfinksr at verizon.net Wed Mar 27 15:34:15 2013 From: rfinksr at verizon.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:34:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Cast iron welding References: <6BE85BB0-AC49-4A0F-8670-12D36B9EA484@stny.rr.com> <77C352B0E57D45B2ADA58F08DDA6DF46@regpc> <25B6D212562C4B79A06A748358939D59@edlaptop> Message-ID: <78C89D83CC604E2FB1E3554DD797A4DE@COMPAQ> ED i am no welder but have welded some cast. I have welded it with mild steel on my mig with mix of argon and regular gas it was 60-40 mix. All to there own style. I have not kept up to date on new welding wire. R Fink ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Stoller" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Cast iron welding > Life is temporary and I always wanted to learn how to weld. My first major > project is about 18 inches of crack in a WWII Onan generator block from > being dropped. I am using a MIG, Silicone Bronze wire and Aragon gas. I > had planned to use Stainless Steel wire, but the Helium gas for it was > much more expensive. I am also welding a crack in the CI muffler. I am > doing short, less than and inch stitches and then letting it cool. So far, > no new cracks. I think the MIG in not putting as much heat into the block > as a stick welder would, but also think I am not getting much penetration, > which I probably don't need any way. The main problem I have is that the > weld seems to want to form large blobs. I am glad I started on the inside > of the block where the weld will be out of site. The Bronze is easy to > grind down and I expect to be able to drill it if I need to. My practice > welds with flux core wire got much better with practice, But it looks like > I have to live with the blobs of bronze. > > Ed Stoller > New Fairfield, CT, USA > www.enginesandmagnets.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Reg Ingold" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:07 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Cast iron welding > > >> There are a lot of new type rods on the market for cast iron. Consult >> the >> experts for the best on your job. >> The new stuff allows better repairs, with more 'flex' on cooling, etc. >> Reg & Marg Ingold >> Newcastle NSW Australia >> randmingold at hotkey.net.au >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Glenn Wilson" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Cast iron welding >> >> >>> >>> Hi Guys >>> I know this has been discussed before, but I guess unless you are >>> interested at the time you don?t take it in. >>> My friend has a tractor that has a cracked housing at the front, not >>> sure >>> exactly, but it is a load bearing part. >>> OK, what is the best way to weld this here in Australia, type of rods, >>> techniques, pre-heating, cooling etc. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Jim at hardmanfamily.net Thu Mar 28 10:49:19 2013 From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net (Jim Hardman) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 13:49:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] BIG Engines Message-ID: BIG engines: http://www.vincelewis.net/bigengine.html Difficult to tote to local engine shows. Have a good day! Jim in Vermont From rotigel at me.com Thu Mar 28 11:13:32 2013 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:13:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] BIG Engines In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I thought that some MAYTAGS were a PAIN to move around! See: http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/maytag/maytag_fun.html for a BIG MAYTAG. Click on "Craig and the 40 HP Maytag" Dave On Mar 28, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Jim Hardman wrote: > BIG engines: > > http://www.vincelewis.net/bigengine.html > > Difficult to tote to local engine shows. > > Have a good day! > > Jim in Vermont > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel