From brian.watts6 at bigpond.com  Thu Apr  4 14:53:45 2013
From: brian.watts6 at bigpond.com (Brian Watts)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:53:45 +1100
Subject: [SEL] FW: Engines For Sale
Message-ID: <003901ce317e$e1692dd0$a43b8970$@watts6@bigpond.com>



 

 

From: Brian Watts [mailto:brian.watts6 at bigpond.com] 
Sent: 05 April 2013 08:16
To: 'stationary-engine at oldengine.org'
Subject: Engines For Sale

 

There are 5 Blackstone Engines for sale from our collection.

We have retired from collecting and all engines are for genuine sale.

 

Contact David Watts for details.

damewatt at bigpond.com

 


From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Fri Apr  5 07:06:38 2013
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:06:38 -0600
Subject: [SEL] FW: Engines For Sale
In-Reply-To: <003901ce317e$e1692dd0$a43b8970$@watts6@bigpond.com>
References: <003901ce317e$e1692dd0$a43b8970$@watts6@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <SNT143-ds1471074316CC171198BB95BBDA0@phx.gbl>

Brian, I've forwarded this to the pres. of the EDGE&TA Club in Huntley 
Project, Montana. They are looking for a project engine.

Regards,
RickinMt.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Watts" <brian.watts6 at bigpond.com>
To: "'Staqtionary Engine List '" <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 3:53 PM
Subject: [SEL] FW: Engines For Sale


>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Brian Watts [mailto:brian.watts6 at bigpond.com]
> Sent: 05 April 2013 08:16
> To: 'stationary-engine at oldengine.org'
> Subject: Engines For Sale
>
>
>
> There are 5 Blackstone Engines for sale from our collection.
>
> We have retired from collecting and all engines are for genuine sale.
>
>
>
> Contact David Watts for details.
>
> damewatt at bigpond.com
>
>
>
> > _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From brian.watts6 at bigpond.com  Fri Apr  5 13:43:56 2013
From: brian.watts6 at bigpond.com (Brian Watts)
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 07:43:56 +1100
Subject: [SEL] : Engines For Sale
Message-ID: <000601ce323e$4b23c680$e16b5380$@watts6@bigpond.com>



There are 5 Blackstone Engines for sale from our collection.

We have retired from collecting and all engines are for genuine sale.

Engines are  on utube,link is below

 

Contact David Watts for details.

damewatt at bigpond.com

 
http://www.youtube.com/user/brianvwatts



 


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From rob at rustyiron.com  Fri Apr  5 15:11:05 2013
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 15:11:05 -0700
Subject: [SEL] : Engines For Sale
In-Reply-To: <000601ce323e$4b23c680$e16b5380$@watts6@bigpond.com>
References: <000601ce323e$4b23c680$e16b5380$@watts6@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <9718E525-7C77-4E83-8288-9DDC206C38A1@rustyiron.com>


On Apr 5, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Brian Watts <brian.watts6 at bigpond.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> There are 5 Blackstone Engines for sale from our collection.
> 
> We have retired from collecting and all engines are for genuine sale.
> 
> Engines are  on utube,link is below
> 
> 
> 
> Contact David Watts for details.
> 
> damewatt at bigpond.com
> 



The last time you announced the sale, all my emails went unanswered, as did emails from another friend. Email glitch?






From rotigel at me.com  Fri Apr  5 18:35:43 2013
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 21:35:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] : Engines For Sale
In-Reply-To: <9718E525-7C77-4E83-8288-9DDC206C38A1@rustyiron.com>
References: <000601ce323e$4b23c680$e16b5380$%watts6@bigpond.com>
	<9718E525-7C77-4E83-8288-9DDC206C38A1@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <CBA77136-6324-4A56-8DFF-237F881C6216@me.com>

Hi Rob, I'm looking for a Blackstone that is for UN-GENUINE sale. Can you help me?
	Dave

On Apr 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Rob Skinner wrote:

> 
> On Apr 5, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Brian Watts <brian.watts6 at bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> There are 5 Blackstone Engines for sale from our collection.
>> 
>> We have retired from collecting and all engines are for genuine sale.
>> 
>> Engines are  on utube,link is below
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Contact David Watts for details.
>> 
>> damewatt at bigpond.com
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> The last time you announced the sale, all my emails went unanswered, as did emails from another friend. Email glitch?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From rob at rustyiron.com  Fri Apr  5 19:34:56 2013
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 19:34:56 -0700
Subject: [SEL] : Engines For Sale
In-Reply-To: <CBA77136-6324-4A56-8DFF-237F881C6216@me.com>
References: <000601ce323e$4b23c680$e16b5380$%watts6@bigpond.com>
	<9718E525-7C77-4E83-8288-9DDC206C38A1@rustyiron.com>
	<CBA77136-6324-4A56-8DFF-237F881C6216@me.com>
Message-ID: <954FC731-74AA-4065-A779-37256B5832AC@rustyiron.com>


On Apr 5, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:

> Hi Rob, I'm looking for a Blackstone that is for UN-GENUINE sale. Can you help me?
> 	Dave




Yes, Dave. 
Please send GENUINE cash. 
The more, the better.
 
Rob






From brian.watts6 at bigpond.com  Sat Apr  6 02:21:47 2013
From: brian.watts6 at bigpond.com (Brian Watts)
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 20:21:47 +1100
Subject: [SEL] : Engines For Sale
In-Reply-To: <9718E525-7C77-4E83-8288-9DDC206C38A1@rustyiron.com>
References: <000601ce323e$4b23c680$e16b5380$@watts6@bigpond.com>
	<9718E525-7C77-4E83-8288-9DDC206C38A1@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <001201ce32a8$29f09410$7dd1bc30$@watts6@bigpond.com>

Email should have read "For Sale ONLY to genuine buyers"

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner
Sent: 06 April 2013 09:11
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] : Engines For Sale


On Apr 5, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Brian Watts <brian.watts6 at bigpond.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> There are 5 Blackstone Engines for sale from our collection.
> 
> We have retired from collecting and all engines are for genuine sale.
> 
> Engines are  on utube,link is below
> 
> 
> 
> Contact David Watts for details.
> 
> damewatt at bigpond.com
> 



The last time you announced the sale, all my emails went unanswered, as did
emails from another friend. Email glitch?




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From frappi at wcoil.com  Mon Apr  8 06:09:43 2013
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2013 09:09:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Condolences
In-Reply-To: <DF2CC143-1CEB-4A5A-90E2-C34FD9650264@eldensengines.com>
References: <515B496E.4000301@eldensengines.com>
	<CEB243F9-F9C2-40FE-8674-67298CA1B243@eldensengines.com>
	<5446C7F7-2DCD-4194-A1C1-5643B34D270B@eldensengines.com>
	<C7D71CCE5A2B4A79A2F63D2E2CC4DB82@regpc>
	<5C8F2D61-DE2D-48AE-A091-161B605BCB38@eldensengines.com>
	<3DEA313A4B224B998E8FCE18E959AFF5@regpc>
	<DF2CC143-1CEB-4A5A-90E2-C34FD9650264@eldensengines.com>
Message-ID: <20130408130943.483CDA934@smtp.wcoil.com>


Condolences to our British Allies on the loss of a Great Leader 
Margaret Thatcher, One of the last of the Great Cold War Allied leaders.


Mark Shulaw



Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home
Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere
and Hercules Engines.
Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com

CAPITALISM Is the backbone of America and Freedom, Not Government or 
socialism!    



From swebre at hotmail.com  Mon Apr  8 09:38:26 2013
From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 16:38:26 +0000
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 109, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2.1365436801.23080.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
References: <mailman.2.1365436801.23080.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W1161697633A938DF420AADBC50@phx.gbl>

Here!  Here! 

-Steve- 

 
Condolences to our British Allies on the loss of a Great Leader 
Margaret Thatcher, One of the last of the Great Cold War Allied leaders.
 
Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA
 

 		 	   		  

From jneth3 at mac.com  Mon Apr  8 11:33:45 2013
From: jneth3 at mac.com (John Neth)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2013 14:33:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 109, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W1161697633A938DF420AADBC50@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.2.1365436801.23080.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
	<BLU172-W1161697633A938DF420AADBC50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9D5BFA04-F263-4B3E-A6ED-71548D39E4C3@mac.com>

RR and the Iron Lady were the right people at the right time and right place in History.  Let us hope their legacy will live on.  Hats off to a wonderful Lady.

John

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Steve Webre <swebre at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Here!  Here! 
> 
> -Steve- 
> 
> 
> Condolences to our British Allies on the loss of a Great Leader 
> Margaret Thatcher, One of the last of the Great Cold War Allied leaders.
> 
> Mark Shulaw
> 454 County Road 33
> Bluffton, OH. 45817
> USA
> 
> 
>                         
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com  Mon Apr  8 13:56:27 2013
From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 20:56:27 +0000
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 109, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <9D5BFA04-F263-4B3E-A6ED-71548D39E4C3@mac.com>
References: <mailman.2.1365436801.23080.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>,
	<BLU172-W1161697633A938DF420AADBC50@phx.gbl>,
	<9D5BFA04-F263-4B3E-A6ED-71548D39E4C3@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BAY172-W2B8D292EA78ED038C08DFD0C50@phx.gbl>

The British remember her for selling off all our nationally owned utilities at the behest of the Rothschilds . We are now at the mercy of global companies.

> From: jneth3 at mac.com
> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 14:33:45 -0400
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 109, Issue 3
> 
> RR and the Iron Lady were the right people at the right time and right place in History.  Let us hope their legacy will live on.  Hats off to a wonderful Lady.
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Steve Webre <swebre at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Here!  Here! 
> > 
> > -Steve- 
> > 
> > 
> > Condolences to our British Allies on the loss of a Great Leader 
> > Margaret Thatcher, One of the last of the Great Cold War Allied leaders.
> > 
> > Mark Shulaw
> > 454 County Road 33
> > Bluffton, OH. 45817
> > USA
> > 
> > 
> >                         
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From russell at ncable.com.au  Mon Apr  8 14:12:31 2013
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 07:12:31 +1000
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 109, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <BAY172-W2B8D292EA78ED038C08DFD0C50@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.2.1365436801.23080.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>,
	<BLU172-W1161697633A938DF420AADBC50@phx.gbl>,
	<9D5BFA04-F263-4B3E-A6ED-71548D39E4C3@mac.com>
	<BAY172-W2B8D292EA78ED038C08DFD0C50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9FADAAE9-4167-4C83-8A47-6ACE409205D4@ncable.com.au>

John she must have stopped by here during her time as well!



On 09/04/2013, at 6:56 AM, john palmer wrote:

> The British remember her for selling off all our nationally owned utilities at the behest of the Rothschilds . We are now at the mercy of global companies.
> 
>> From: jneth3 at mac.com
>> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 14:33:45 -0400
>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 109, Issue 3
>> 
>> RR and the Iron Lady were the right people at the right time and right place in History.  Let us hope their legacy will live on.  Hats off to a wonderful Lady.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Steve Webre <swebre at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Here!  Here! 
>>> 
>>> -Steve- 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Condolences to our British Allies on the loss of a Great Leader 
>>> Margaret Thatcher, One of the last of the Great Cold War Allied leaders.
>>> 
>>> Mark Shulaw
>>> 454 County Road 33
>>> Bluffton, OH. 45817
>>> USA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 		 	   		  
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com  Tue Apr  9 00:11:03 2013
From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 07:11:03 +0000
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 109, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <9FADAAE9-4167-4C83-8A47-6ACE409205D4@ncable.com.au>
References: <mailman.2.1365436801.23080.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>, ,
	<BLU172-W1161697633A938DF420AADBC50@phx.gbl>, ,
	<9D5BFA04-F263-4B3E-A6ED-71548D39E4C3@mac.com>,
	<BAY172-W2B8D292EA78ED038C08DFD0C50@phx.gbl>,
	<9FADAAE9-4167-4C83-8A47-6ACE409205D4@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <BAY172-W48B351549584A1D803B8EDD0C60@phx.gbl>

Hello Russell,global conspiracy? Lost your industry as well?

> From: russell at ncable.com.au
> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 07:12:31 +1000
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 109, Issue 3
> 
> John she must have stopped by here during her time as well!
> 
> 
> 
> On 09/04/2013, at 6:56 AM, john palmer wrote:
> 
> > The British remember her for selling off all our nationally owned utilities at the behest of the Rothschilds . We are now at the mercy of global companies.
> > 
> >> From: jneth3 at mac.com
> >> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 14:33:45 -0400
> >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >> Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 109, Issue 3
> >> 
> >> RR and the Iron Lady were the right people at the right time and right place in History.  Let us hope their legacy will live on.  Hats off to a wonderful Lady.
> >> 
> >> John
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >> On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Steve Webre <swebre at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Here!  Here! 
> >>> 
> >>> -Steve- 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Condolences to our British Allies on the loss of a Great Leader 
> >>> Margaret Thatcher, One of the last of the Great Cold War Allied leaders.
> >>> 
> >>> Mark Shulaw
> >>> 454 County Road 33
> >>> Bluffton, OH. 45817
> >>> USA
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> SEL mailing list
> >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> >> 
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> SEL mailing list
> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> > 		 	   		  
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Apr 12 03:00:15 2013
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:00:15 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
Message-ID: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC>

Hi Guys

Who is going to the National?
If I can get away from work, being the only the person at the hospital and on call 24/7, I will leave at lunch time Friday. Google maps say 8 hours 15 minutes but probably only 7 1/2 hours.
Looking for somewhere to camp, probably in the back of my car, what is everyone doing. I will only be there for the Saturday and head back home Sunday. ;-((
What is happening Saturday night, where will Steve and Arnie be ??

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia


From ozengine at iinet.net.au  Fri Apr 12 03:25:26 2013
From: ozengine at iinet.net.au (Kerry)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:25:26 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
In-Reply-To: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC>
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au>

G'Day Peter
The two lost Yanks will be camping with me in the camping area on site.
Saturday night will be a camp oven cook up so we will be there with Beers

Kerry


On 12/04/2013 8:00 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> Who is going to the National?
> If I can get away from work, being the only the person at the hospital and on call 24/7, I will leave at lunch time Friday. Google maps say 8 hours 15 minutes but probably only 7 1/2 hours.
> Looking for somewhere to camp, probably in the back of my car, what is everyone doing. I will only be there for the Saturday and head back home Sunday. ;-((
> What is happening Saturday night, where will Steve and Arnie be ??
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> _

-- 
Kerry Morris
Tangye Engine Registrar
0400421133
Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/



From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Apr 12 05:02:18 2013
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 22:02:18 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
Message-ID: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>

Hi Guys
What is the best US source for piston rings.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia

From mr at carolina.rr.com  Fri Apr 12 14:37:59 2013
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:37:59 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
In-Reply-To: <5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au>
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC>
	<5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <D016DC398EBE4111B0F629F6401AF08A@RoysterPC>

Pictures, take lots of pictures!!!!!

MR

-----Original Message----- 
From: Kerry
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:25 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Aussie National Rally

G'Day Peter
The two lost Yanks will be camping with me in the camping area on site.
Saturday night will be a camp oven cook up so we will be there with Beers

Kerry


On 12/04/2013 8:00 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> Who is going to the National?
> If I can get away from work, being the only the person at the hospital and 
> on call 24/7, I will leave at lunch time Friday. Google maps say 8 hours 
> 15 minutes but probably only 7 1/2 hours.
> Looking for somewhere to camp, probably in the back of my car, what is 
> everyone doing. I will only be there for the Saturday and head back home 
> Sunday. ;-((
> What is happening Saturday night, where will Steve and Arnie be ??
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> _

-- 
Kerry Morris
Tangye Engine Registrar
0400421133
Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/

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From al.harris at rustic-engines.com  Fri Apr 12 14:56:58 2013
From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 07:56:58 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <5168832A.2030502@rustic-engines.com>

Why go OS Pete?

I get mine from SA,

Al


On 12/04/2013 10:02 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
> Hi Guys
> What is the best US source for piston rings.
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From russell at ncable.com.au  Fri Apr 12 15:18:44 2013
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 08:18:44 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
In-Reply-To: <D016DC398EBE4111B0F629F6401AF08A@RoysterPC>
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC>
	<5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au>
	<D016DC398EBE4111B0F629F6401AF08A@RoysterPC>
Message-ID: <45EE5FAF-2599-490D-8600-7B47E50D8B26@ncable.com.au>

Mike it's a shame you could not make it. The other boys will have to play hard to make up for your absents.



On 13/04/2013, at 7:37 AM, Mike Royster wrote:

> Pictures, take lots of pictures!!!!!
> 
> MR
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Kerry
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:25 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
> 
> G'Day Peter
> The two lost Yanks will be camping with me in the camping area on site.
> Saturday night will be a camp oven cook up so we will be there with Beers
> 
> Kerry
> 
> 
> On 12/04/2013 8:00 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>> Hi Guys
>> 
>> Who is going to the National?
>> If I can get away from work, being the only the person at the hospital and 
>> on call 24/7, I will leave at lunch time Friday. Google maps say 8 hours 
>> 15 minutes but probably only 7 1/2 hours.
>> Looking for somewhere to camp, probably in the back of my car, what is 
>> everyone doing. I will only be there for the Saturday and head back home 
>> Sunday. ;-((
>> What is happening Saturday night, where will Steve and Arnie be ??
>> 
>> Regards
>> Peter Lowe
>> R&V Engine Registrar
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>> Australia
>> _
> 
> -- 
> Kerry Morris
> Tangye Engine Registrar
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> Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
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From bst41474 at bigpond.net.au  Fri Apr 12 15:55:46 2013
From: bst41474 at bigpond.net.au (Barry & Tanya Stait)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 08:55:46 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
In-Reply-To: <5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au>
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC>
	<5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <6794931C2DB246B88F8ADCC8DD00461E@Stait>

G'Day all,
National Rally is looking to be a very big event. There is over 1000 
regersted exhibitors and 740 booked for the dinner on Saturday night. People 
are turning up already to camp. Spent last Sunday putting up about 2km of 
fence. Glad that we don't have to fence off the display tractors.
All in all its looking like a huge rally.

Barry & Tanya Stait.
Mudgee. NSW.
bst41474 at bigpond.net.au.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry" <ozengine at iinet.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Aussie National Rally


> G'Day Peter
> The two lost Yanks will be camping with me in the camping area on site.
> Saturday night will be a camp oven cook up so we will be there with Beers
>
> Kerry
>
>
> On 12/04/2013 8:00 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>> Hi Guys
>>
>> Who is going to the National?
>> If I can get away from work, being the only the person at the hospital 
>> and on call 24/7, I will leave at lunch time Friday. Google maps say 8 
>> hours 15 minutes but probably only 7 1/2 hours.
>> Looking for somewhere to camp, probably in the back of my car, what is 
>> everyone doing. I will only be there for the Saturday and head back home 
>> Sunday. ;-((
>> What is happening Saturday night, where will Steve and Arnie be ??
>>
>> Regards
>> Peter Lowe
>> R&V Engine Registrar
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>> Australia
>> _
>
> -- 
> Kerry Morris
> Tangye Engine Registrar
> 0400421133
> Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
>
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From rotigel at me.com  Fri Apr 12 15:58:48 2013
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 18:58:48 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>

For what kind of engine Peter? Or at least tell us what size.
	Dave
PS, The black ones from SA do not work!

On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:

> Hi Guys
> What is the best US source for piston rings.
> 
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From al.harris at rustic-engines.com  Fri Apr 12 16:19:35 2013
From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 09:19:35 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
	<49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
Message-ID: <51689687.9060109@rustic-engines.com>

Mine weren't black mate...and they are still all working. :-P

JP Pistons can source almost anything Pete.

> http://www.jp.com.au/JPPistons.html

Al

ps: look for a 2HP Sunshine at Mudgee :-)



On 13/04/2013 8:58 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote:
> For what kind of engine Peter? Or at least tell us what size.
> 	Dave
> PS, The black ones from SA do not work!
>
> On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys
>> What is the best US source for piston rings.
>>
>> Regards
>> Peter Lowe
>> R&V Engine Registrar
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>> Australia
>>



From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Apr 12 16:22:31 2013
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 09:22:31 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
	<49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
Message-ID: <3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>

Well Dave, seeing they are for a Stationary Engine, it does not matter if it 
works or not ;-))

Al, they are for an R&V guy in the USA.
5.25 + 10 thousand over .25 wide rings. Piston groove is 3/16.
I am just passing on suppliers to him.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia


For what kind of engine Peter? Or at least tell us what size.
Dave
PS, The black ones from SA do not work!

On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:

> Hi Guys
> What is the best US source for piston rings.
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> _______________________________________________
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From al.harris at rustic-engines.com  Fri Apr 12 16:26:23 2013
From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 09:26:23 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
In-Reply-To: <6794931C2DB246B88F8ADCC8DD00461E@Stait>
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC>
	<5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au>
	<6794931C2DB246B88F8ADCC8DD00461E@Stait>
Message-ID: <5168981F.5030008@rustic-engines.com>

Here's hoping the weather is better than Allora Barry. It's horrid here 
on the North Coast ATM.

Fingers crossed,

Al


On 13/04/2013 8:55 AM, Barry & Tanya Stait wrote:
> G'Day all,
> National Rally is looking to be a very big event. There is over 1000
> regersted exhibitors and 740 booked for the dinner on Saturday night. People
> are turning up already to camp. Spent last Sunday putting up about 2km of
> fence. Glad that we don't have to fence off the display tractors.
> All in all its looking like a huge rally.
>
> Barry & Tanya Stait.
> Mudgee. NSW.
> bst41474 at bigpond.net.au.
>
>



From rotigel at me.com  Fri Apr 12 16:30:38 2013
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:30:38 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
	<49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
	<3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <0131167F-573C-4203-9E4C-7E28357E99F1@me.com>

Are you looking for rings for a MAYTAG, or your Bentley?
	Dave

On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:

> Well Dave, seeing they are for a Stationary Engine, it does not matter if it 
> works or not ;-))
> 
> Al, they are for an R&V guy in the USA.
> 5.25 + 10 thousand over .25 wide rings. Piston groove is 3/16.
> I am just passing on suppliers to him.
> 
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> 
> 
> For what kind of engine Peter? Or at least tell us what size.
> Dave
> PS, The black ones from SA do not work!
> 
> On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:
> 
>> Hi Guys
>> What is the best US source for piston rings.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Peter Lowe
>> R&V Engine Registrar
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>> Australia
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From al.harris at rustic-engines.com  Fri Apr 12 16:56:12 2013
From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 09:56:12 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
	<49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
	<3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <51689F1C.7060200@rustic-engines.com>

Fair enough Peter.

Go another mile and get them from JP and post them to him. ;-)

You can't go too far for an R&V bloke eh?

Al


On 13/04/2013 9:22 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:
> Well Dave, seeing they are for a Stationary Engine, it does not matter if it
> works or not ;-))
>
> Al, they are for an R&V guy in the USA.
> 5.25 + 10 thousand over .25 wide rings. Piston groove is 3/16.
> I am just passing on suppliers to him.
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
>
>
> For what kind of engine Peter? Or at least tell us what size.
> Dave
> PS, The black ones from SA do not work!
>
> On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys
>> What is the best US source for piston rings.
>>
>> Regards
>> Peter Lowe
>> R&V Engine Registrar
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>> Australia
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> _______________________________________________
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From rotigel at me.com  Fri Apr 12 17:07:25 2013
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:07:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
	<49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
	<3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <A0C833B4-AE09-46B7-9311-1B3DE2253643@me.com>

Hi Peter, Good luck putting .25 wide rings into a 3/16 groove!
	Dave
PS, You most be a LIBERAL?

On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:

> Well Dave, seeing they are for a Stationary Engine, it does not matter if it 
> works or not ;-))
> 
> Al, they are for an R&V guy in the USA.
> 5.25 + 10 thousand over .25 wide rings. Piston groove is 3/16.
> I am just passing on suppliers to him.
> 
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> 
> 
> For what kind of engine Peter? Or at least tell us what size.
> Dave
> PS, The black ones from SA do not work!
> 
> On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:
> 
>> Hi Guys
>> What is the best US source for piston rings.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Peter Lowe
>> R&V Engine Registrar
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>> Australia
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Apr 12 17:17:29 2013
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:17:29 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
In-Reply-To: <5168981F.5030008@rustic-engines.com>
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC><5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au><6794931C2DB246B88F8ADCC8DD00461E@Stait>
	<5168981F.5030008@rustic-engines.com>
Message-ID: <36232537FDA740C28995B878B91556BE@PeterPC>

Pouring rain here again with more local flooding predicted.
So wet here since the floods a few months ago that it is affecting the local 
economy.
Peter

Here's hoping the weather is better than Allora Barry. It's horrid here
on the North Coast ATM.

Fingers crossed,

Al


On 13/04/2013 8:55 AM, Barry & Tanya Stait wrote:
> G'Day all,
> National Rally is looking to be a very big event. There is over 1000
> regersted exhibitors and 740 booked for the dinner on Saturday night. 
> People
> are turning up already to camp. Spent last Sunday putting up about 2km of
> fence. Glad that we don't have to fence off the display tractors.
> All in all its looking like a huge rally.
>
> Barry & Tanya Stait.
> Mudgee. NSW.
> bst41474 at bigpond.net.au.
>
>

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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Apr 12 17:19:11 2013
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:19:11 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <0131167F-573C-4203-9E4C-7E28357E99F1@me.com>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC><49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com><3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
	<0131167F-573C-4203-9E4C-7E28357E99F1@me.com>
Message-ID: <F5EC55D39ACF4B7FA688E31CA8939F17@PeterPC>

Dave, the Bentley is ticking like a clock and as you well know, Maytags 
never wear our rings :-)



Are you looking for rings for a MAYTAG, or your Bentley?
Dave

On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:





From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Apr 12 17:23:43 2013
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:23:43 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <A0C833B4-AE09-46B7-9311-1B3DE2253643@me.com>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC><49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com><3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
	<A0C833B4-AE09-46B7-9311-1B3DE2253643@me.com>
Message-ID: <D4EF3E1516FF4C69BE520E60435D28E9@PeterPC>

Think he meant groove depth DAVE, but he can chase these himself I am just 
passing on a supplier.
I spend a lot of time chasing parts for R&V members but that goes with the 
job of register custodian I guess.
I now have 1036 surviving engines on the register.
Pete



Hi Peter, Good luck putting .25 wide rings into a 3/16 groove!
Dave
PS, You most be a LIBERAL?

On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:

> Well Dave, seeing they are for a Stationary Engine, it does not matter if 
> it
> works or not ;-))
>
> Al, they are for an R&V guy in the USA.
> 5.25 + 10 thousand over .25 wide rings. Piston groove is 3/16.
> I am just passing on suppliers to him.
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
>
>
> For what kind of engine Peter? Or at least tell us what size.
> Dave
> PS, The black ones from SA do not work!
>
> On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys
>> What is the best US source for piston rings.
>>
>> Regards
>> Peter Lowe
>> R&V Engine Registrar
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>> Australia
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> _______________________________________________
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From 1oldengin at gmail.com  Fri Apr 12 17:29:11 2013
From: 1oldengin at gmail.com (Leroy Clark)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:29:11 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <A0C833B4-AE09-46B7-9311-1B3DE2253643@me.com>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
	<49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
	<3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
	<A0C833B4-AE09-46B7-9311-1B3DE2253643@me.com>
Message-ID: <CA+B8urRDf=MeDzZfnfMYW455VXPb57jC2iWYSULCNiNoH2Rsqg@mail.gmail.com>

Metric Dave.... leroy
On Apr 12, 2013 8:18 PM, "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com> wrote:

> Hi Peter, Good luck putting .25 wide rings into a 3/16 groove!
>         Dave
> PS, You most be a LIBERAL?
>
> On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>
> > Well Dave, seeing they are for a Stationary Engine, it does not matter
> if it
> > works or not ;-))
> >
> > Al, they are for an R&V guy in the USA.
> > 5.25 + 10 thousand over .25 wide rings. Piston groove is 3/16.
> > I am just passing on suppliers to him.
> >
> > Regards
> > Peter Lowe
> > R&V Engine Registrar
> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> > Australia
> >
> >
> > For what kind of engine Peter? Or at least tell us what size.
> > Dave
> > PS, The black ones from SA do not work!
> >
> > On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Guys
> >> What is the best US source for piston rings.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Peter Lowe
> >> R&V Engine Registrar
> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> >> Australia
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> SEL mailing list
> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
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From rotigel at me.com  Fri Apr 12 17:35:41 2013
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:35:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <F5EC55D39ACF4B7FA688E31CA8939F17@PeterPC>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
	<49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
	<3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
	<0131167F-573C-4203-9E4C-7E28357E99F1@me.com>
	<F5EC55D39ACF4B7FA688E31CA8939F17@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <8E8CE704-C188-4FC6-BBD7-FEB050D9BF01@me.com>

I knew that--and know why!
	Dave

On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>  Maytags 
> never wear our rings :-)
> 



From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Fri Apr 12 17:45:28 2013
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:45:28 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <CA+B8urRDf=MeDzZfnfMYW455VXPb57jC2iWYSULCNiNoH2Rsqg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
	<49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
	<3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
	<A0C833B4-AE09-46B7-9311-1B3DE2253643@me.com>
	<CA+B8urRDf=MeDzZfnfMYW455VXPb57jC2iWYSULCNiNoH2Rsqg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9EFB831A-8FC7-4DEF-8AB5-51667829E9BC@gmail.com>

Dave is still measuring in cubits.
Patrick

Sent from my iPhone

On 13/04/2013, at 10:29, Leroy Clark <1oldengin at gmail.com> wrote:

> Metric Dave.... leroy
> On Apr 12, 2013 8:18 PM, "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Peter, Good luck putting .25 wide rings into a 3/16 groove!
>>        Dave
>> PS, You most be a LIBERAL?
>> 


From rotigel at me.com  Fri Apr 12 18:20:27 2013
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 21:20:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <9EFB831A-8FC7-4DEF-8AB5-51667829E9BC@gmail.com>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
	<49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
	<3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
	<A0C833B4-AE09-46B7-9311-1B3DE2253643@me.com>
	<CA+B8urRDf=MeDzZfnfMYW455VXPb57jC2iWYSULCNiNoH2Rsqg@mail.gmail.com>
	<9EFB831A-8FC7-4DEF-8AB5-51667829E9BC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <860E1B0A-9326-4B94-90CE-852BC33FA78F@me.com>

Hi Patrick, Do you know the definition of a cubit? We all know that you will have to look it up, so go to it!
	Dave
PS, If you didn't have to look it up please don't respond. If you are so dumb that you had to look it up please respond so that we will all know. THANKS!
PPS, Anyone else who is so dumb that you had to look it up please also respond.
PPPS, Those from NZ need not respond--we all know about you!
PPPPS, Love and KISSES!

On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Patrick Livingstone wrote:

> Dave is still measuring in cubits.
> Patrick
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 13/04/2013, at 10:29, Leroy Clark <1oldengin at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Metric Dave.... leroy
>> On Apr 12, 2013 8:18 PM, "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Peter, Good luck putting .25 wide rings into a 3/16 groove!
>>>       Dave
>>> PS, You most be a LIBERAL?
>>> 
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Sat Apr 13 07:10:23 2013
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:10:23 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
In-Reply-To: <45EE5FAF-2599-490D-8600-7B47E50D8B26@ncable.com.au>
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC><5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au><D016DC398EBE4111B0F629F6401AF08A@RoysterPC>
	<45EE5FAF-2599-490D-8600-7B47E50D8B26@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <08936594682F4215A575F7CC8BD168B1@RoysterPC>

True, but knowing that you are there to guide them gives me peace of mind 
you will aid them in the great adventure down under!  I don't think Arnie 
has ever been in an Aussie jail, but I know he needs to experience it!

MR

-----Original Message----- 
From: Russell
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:18 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Aussie National Rally

Mike it's a shame you could not make it. The other boys will have to play 
hard to make up for your absents.



On 13/04/2013, at 7:37 AM, Mike Royster wrote:

> Pictures, take lots of pictures!!!!!
>
> MR
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Kerry
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:25 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
>
> G'Day Peter
> The two lost Yanks will be camping with me in the camping area on site.
> Saturday night will be a camp oven cook up so we will be there with Beers
>
> Kerry
>
>
> On 12/04/2013 8:00 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>> Hi Guys
>>
>> Who is going to the National?
>> If I can get away from work, being the only the person at the hospital 
>> and
>> on call 24/7, I will leave at lunch time Friday. Google maps say 8 hours
>> 15 minutes but probably only 7 1/2 hours.
>> Looking for somewhere to camp, probably in the back of my car, what is
>> everyone doing. I will only be there for the Saturday and head back home
>> Sunday. ;-((
>> What is happening Saturday night, where will Steve and Arnie be ??
>>
>> Regards
>> Peter Lowe
>> R&V Engine Registrar
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>> Australia
>> _
>
> -- 
> Kerry Morris
> Tangye Engine Registrar
> 0400421133
> Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
>
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From russell at ncable.com.au  Sat Apr 13 13:34:46 2013
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 06:34:46 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
In-Reply-To: <08936594682F4215A575F7CC8BD168B1@RoysterPC>
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC><5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au><D016DC398EBE4111B0F629F6401AF08A@RoysterPC>
	<45EE5FAF-2599-490D-8600-7B47E50D8B26@ncable.com.au>
	<08936594682F4215A575F7CC8BD168B1@RoysterPC>
Message-ID: <B85B3C18-6A70-4744-8213-2C7F7DF4A04A@ncable.com.au>

Mike I recon theres a nice Cell in Lightgow waiting for him !



On 14/04/2013, at 12:10 AM, Mike Royster wrote:

> True, but knowing that you are there to guide them gives me peace of mind 
> you will aid them in the great adventure down under!  I don't think Arnie 
> has ever been in an Aussie jail, but I know he needs to experience it!
> 
> MR
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Russell
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:18 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
> 
> Mike it's a shame you could not make it. The other boys will have to play 
> hard to make up for your absents.
> 
> 
> 
> On 13/04/2013, at 7:37 AM, Mike Royster wrote:
> 
>> Pictures, take lots of pictures!!!!!
>> 
>> MR
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Kerry
>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:25 AM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
>> 
>> G'Day Peter
>> The two lost Yanks will be camping with me in the camping area on site.
>> Saturday night will be a camp oven cook up so we will be there with Beers
>> 
>> Kerry
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/04/2013 8:00 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>>> Hi Guys
>>> 
>>> Who is going to the National?
>>> If I can get away from work, being the only the person at the hospital 
>>> and
>>> on call 24/7, I will leave at lunch time Friday. Google maps say 8 hours
>>> 15 minutes but probably only 7 1/2 hours.
>>> Looking for somewhere to camp, probably in the back of my car, what is
>>> everyone doing. I will only be there for the Saturday and head back home
>>> Sunday. ;-((
>>> What is happening Saturday night, where will Steve and Arnie be ??
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Peter Lowe
>>> R&V Engine Registrar
>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>>> Australia
>>> _
>> 
>> -- 
>> Kerry Morris
>> Tangye Engine Registrar
>> 0400421133
>> Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> 
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> 
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From ozengine at iinet.net.au  Sat Apr 13 13:42:51 2013
From: ozengine at iinet.net.au (Kerry)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 06:42:51 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
In-Reply-To: <B85B3C18-6A70-4744-8213-2C7F7DF4A04A@ncable.com.au>
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC><5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au><D016DC398EBE4111B0F629F6401AF08A@RoysterPC>
	<45EE5FAF-2599-490D-8600-7B47E50D8B26@ncable.com.au>
	<08936594682F4215A575F7CC8BD168B1@RoysterPC>
	<B85B3C18-6A70-4744-8213-2C7F7DF4A04A@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <5169C34B.3090504@iinet.net.au>

Oh dear I have to live here, one problem will be Tuesday night when your 
here Russell, Make sure you organise some ice, you have had two years 
you know.

Kerry


On 14/04/2013 6:34 AM, Russell wrote:
> Mike I recon theres a nice Cell in Lightgow waiting for him !
>
>
>
> On 14/04/2013, at 12:10 AM, Mike Royster wrote:
>
>> True, but knowing that you are there to guide them gives me peace of mind
>> you will aid them in the great adventure down under!  I don't think Arnie
>> has ever been in an Aussie jail, but I know he needs to experience it!
>>
>>

-- 
Kerry Morris
Tangye Engine Registrar
0400421133
Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/



From rotigel at me.com  Sat Apr 13 15:31:51 2013
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 18:31:51 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
In-Reply-To: <B85B3C18-6A70-4744-8213-2C7F7DF4A04A@ncable.com.au>
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC>
	<5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au>
	<D016DC398EBE4111B0F629F6401AF08A@RoysterPC>
	<45EE5FAF-2599-490D-8600-7B47E50D8B26@ncable.com.au>
	<08936594682F4215A575F7CC8BD168B1@RoysterPC>
	<B85B3C18-6A70-4744-8213-2C7F7DF4A04A@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <39CB49E6-C124-4B87-9A8E-DF56F24963EA@me.com>

Hi Russ, If bail is necessary I KNOW that Arnie is good for a loan for the full amount.
	Dave
PS, If you need to know HOW I know this please contact me off list

On Apr 13, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Russell wrote:

> Mike I recon theres a nice Cell in Lightgow waiting for him !
> 
> 
> 
> On 14/04/2013, at 12:10 AM, Mike Royster wrote:
> 
>> True, but knowing that you are there to guide them gives me peace of mind 
>> you will aid them in the great adventure down under!  I don't think Arnie 
>> has ever been in an Aussie jail, but I know he needs to experience it!
>> 
>> MR
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Russell
>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:18 PM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
>> 
>> Mike it's a shame you could not make it. The other boys will have to play 
>> hard to make up for your absents.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 13/04/2013, at 7:37 AM, Mike Royster wrote:
>> 
>>> Pictures, take lots of pictures!!!!!
>>> 
>>> MR
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Kerry
>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:25 AM
>>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
>>> 
>>> G'Day Peter
>>> The two lost Yanks will be camping with me in the camping area on site.
>>> Saturday night will be a camp oven cook up so we will be there with Beers
>>> 
>>> Kerry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/04/2013 8:00 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>>>> Hi Guys
>>>> 
>>>> Who is going to the National?
>>>> If I can get away from work, being the only the person at the hospital 
>>>> and
>>>> on call 24/7, I will leave at lunch time Friday. Google maps say 8 hours
>>>> 15 minutes but probably only 7 1/2 hours.
>>>> Looking for somewhere to camp, probably in the back of my car, what is
>>>> everyone doing. I will only be there for the Saturday and head back home
>>>> Sunday. ;-((
>>>> What is happening Saturday night, where will Steve and Arnie be ??
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> Peter Lowe
>>>> R&V Engine Registrar
>>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>>>> Australia
>>>> _
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Kerry Morris
>>> Tangye Engine Registrar
>>> 0400421133
>>> Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
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>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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>> 
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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sat Apr 13 16:10:19 2013
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:10:19 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC><5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au><D016DC398EBE4111B0F629F6401AF08A@RoysterPC><45EE5FAF-2599-490D-8600-7B47E50D8B26@ncable.com.au><08936594682F4215A575F7CC8BD168B1@RoysterPC><B85B3C18-6A70-4744-8213-2C7F7DF4A04A@ncable.com.au>
	<5169C34B.3090504@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <E430E7C84F794C23BE8C1B9FDB90527F@regpc>

Years  back, they used to say, "There are two things in Lithgow worth 
seeing. The grass growing in the cemetary and the waitress in the Chinese 
restaurant!"
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry" <ozengine at iinet.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Aussie National Rally


> Oh dear I have to live here, one problem will be Tuesday night when your
> here Russell, Make sure you organise some ice, you have had two years
> you know.
>
> Kerry
>
>
> On 14/04/2013 6:34 AM, Russell wrote:
>> Mike I recon theres a nice Cell in Lightgow waiting for him !
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14/04/2013, at 12:10 AM, Mike Royster wrote:
>>
>>> True, but knowing that you are there to guide them gives me peace of 
>>> mind
>>> you will aid them in the great adventure down under!  I don't think 
>>> Arnie
>>> has ever been in an Aussie jail, but I know he needs to experience it!
>>>
>>>
>
> -- 
> Kerry Morris
> Tangye Engine Registrar
> 0400421133
> Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
>
> _______________________________________________
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From rustyiron1 at bigpond.com  Sat Apr 13 17:36:34 2013
From: rustyiron1 at bigpond.com (Andy Nicholson)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 10:36:34 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC><49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
	<51689687.9060109@rustic-engines.com>
Message-ID: <97FB322D5D3C438BB355555048A5086E@owner916e4fa44>

Hi Peter, I've used rings from this bloke in S.A. 
Easy to talk to and not a bad price.
Andy
Brandon Qld

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Harris" <al.harris at rustic-engines.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Piston rings


> Mine weren't black mate...and they are still all working. :-P
> 
> JP Pistons can source almost anything Pete.
> 
>> http://www.jp.com.au/JPPistons.html
> 
> Al
> 
> ps: look for a 2HP Sunshine at Mudgee :-)
> 
> 
> 
> On 13/04/2013 8:58 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote:
>> For what kind of engine Peter? Or at least tell us what size.
>> Dave
>> PS, The black ones from SA do not work!
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Guys
>>> What is the best US source for piston rings.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Peter Lowe
>>> R&V Engine Registrar
>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>>> Australia
>>>
> 
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From Germoamer at aol.com  Sun Apr 21 07:18:27 2013
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:18:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] engine auction
Message-ID: <e2464.24097b7d.3ea54f33@aol.com>

http://www.auctionzip.com/cgi-bin/auctionview.cgi?lid=1674711
 
Nice auction coming up  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord, Va.  
germoamer at aol.com


From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sun Apr 21 19:33:34 2013
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 19:33:34 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Fun with engines
Message-ID: <20130421.193427.1565.34299@mailpop10.vgs.untd.com>

Hi all.  Went to a small steam up/ engine show today.  I think a lot of
you will guess who the host was.  First time using tinyurl, hope it works

http://tinyurl.com/d8sev89 


Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
____________________________________________________________
How to Sleep Like a Rock
Obey this one natural trick to fall asleep and stay asleep all night.
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5174a1c6b9d6721c658b2st03vuc

From plowe at exemail.com.au  Mon Apr 22 04:36:38 2013
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:36:38 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons
Message-ID: <0DB956429BD04200BBFAE6BE4D191858@PeterPC>

Do we have any members who have a web site that shows the steps for machining blank pistons and making rings?


Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia

From Germoamer at aol.com  Mon Apr 22 04:41:51 2013
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:41:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Fun with engines
Message-ID: <6fae5.59ff4596.3ea67bff@aol.com>



 
In a message dated 4/21/2013 10:37:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rdhaskell at juno.com writes:

Went to a small steam up/ engine show today. 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------
 
Great bunch of engines!
 
Thanks,
 


 
Tom  Schmutz
Concord, Va. 
germoamer at aol.com

From edstoller at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 22 05:53:25 2013
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed Stoller)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 08:53:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons
References: <0DB956429BD04200BBFAE6BE4D191858@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <B08E3E24D677457A8807BEBD7A6D2F2E@edlaptop>

How about this. 
D:\EDS2010\Blacksmith_Mch\TurningPiston_files\TurningPiston.htm.  I think I 
lost the link for it.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield,  CT,   USA
www.enginesandmagnets.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine.org" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 7:36 AM
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons


> Do we have any members who have a web site that shows the steps for 
> machining blank pistons and making rings?
>
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
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From edstoller at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 22 05:59:05 2013
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed Stoller)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 08:59:05 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons
References: <0DB956429BD04200BBFAE6BE4D191858@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <987AF0AFB5A14107B71B9D8DC50C0729@edlaptop>

It says this 'Old Threshing and Plowing days at Mike Burn.' at the top of my 
screne but it is not an active link.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield,  CT,   USA
www.enginesandmagnets.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine.org" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 7:36 AM
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons


> Do we have any members who have a web site that shows the steps for 
> machining blank pistons and making rings?
>
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From edstoller at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 22 06:04:12 2013
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed Stoller)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:04:12 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons
References: <0DB956429BD04200BBFAE6BE4D191858@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <14D13D1E17AC4596B64C36E4ECB679EF@edlaptop>

Peter.I have more pictures if you can use them.


PistonRings..

I have made quite a few rings for my engines as well as for friends using

the heat treat method and so far have not had a failure. If you have access

to a lathe its one of the easiest parts of a restoration.

Heres how I do it. Chuck up a bit of good cast in your 3 jaw. Bore it to the

fitted ring I.D. Machine the O.D to your bore diameter. Part them off. Split

the rings. ( I use a bit of pressure with some bolt cutters and they

fracture cleanly) Make up a wedge out of a bit of keysteel or whatever is

laying around and stack the rings together with the wedge in the gap holding

them open. Wrap some fireproof cloth to keep the direct flame off them. Put

the stack of rings between two plates with a 3/8 bolt holding them together.

I make up a little firebrick furnace on the shed floor and stick in a LP

torch and keep them to a dull red for a couple of hours. Pull them out when

cool and gap them.So far the rings I have made have gone into new bores and

there is no leakage past the rings and seem to work perfectly.

Ray Freeman

.......>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..

http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/MakingPistonRings/Thumbnail

s.html



Ed Stoller
New Fairfield,  CT,   USA
www.enginesandmagnets.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 7:36 AM
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons


> Do we have any members who have a web site that shows the steps for machining blank pistons and making rings?
> 
> 
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Mon Apr 22 05:58:34 2013
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:58:34 +1000
Subject: [SEL] NHMA National Rally
Message-ID: <CD9B711A.10422%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

My first batch of pics from the National:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_1/index.htm
Big could hardly describe this one. There was just to much to see and too
many people to chat to.
I did run into a couple of bewildered looking American's but they seemed to
having a good time.
Now I need some sleep. Such a big event, with two engines of my own, as well
as chasing around a 2 year old is hard work.
Patrick




From obise at moscow.com  Mon Apr 22 07:08:45 2013
From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:08:45 -0700
Subject: [SEL] NHMA National Rally
In-Reply-To: <CD9B711A.10422%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CD9B711A.10422%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5175446D.4030008@moscow.com>

Patrick, as usual your pictures are fantastic!  Thank you for all the 
hard work you put into making them available for all of us to enjoy.
     Best regards,
     Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.

On 4/22/2013 5:58 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote:
> My first batch of pics from the National:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_1/index.htm
> Big could hardly describe this one. There was just to much to see and too
> many people to chat to.
> I did run into a couple of bewildered looking American's but they seemed to
> having a good time.
> Now I need some sleep. Such a big event, with two engines of my own, as well
> as chasing around a 2 year old is hard work.
> Patrick



From obise at moscow.com  Mon Apr 22 07:09:30 2013
From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:09:30 -0700
Subject: [SEL] NHMA National Rally
In-Reply-To: <CD9B711A.10422%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CD9B711A.10422%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5175449A.3030005@moscow.com>

Patrick, as usual your pictures are fantastic!  Thank you for all the 
hard work you put into making them available for all of us to enjoy.
     Best regards,
     Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.

On 4/22/2013 5:58 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote:
> My first batch of pics from the National:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_1/index.htm
> Big could hardly describe this one. There was just to much to see and too
> many people to chat to.
> I did run into a couple of bewildered looking American's but they seemed to
> having a good time.
> Now I need some sleep. Such a big event, with two engines of my own, as well
> as chasing around a 2 year old is hard work.
> Patrick



From jbcast at charter.net  Mon Apr 22 08:21:20 2013
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:21:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons
Message-ID: <55776893.73d24b.13e3255be60.Webtop.43@charter.net>

This link should get you to a good article.

 
http://wewilliams.net/docs/1925%20-%20The%20Correct%20Way%20to%20Machine%20Oversize%20Pistons%20-%20Bulletin%20No%2085.pdf

J.B.







On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:

> Do we have any members who have a web site that shows the steps for 
> machining blank pistons and making rings?
>
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From frappi at wcoil.com  Mon Apr 22 13:38:37 2013
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:38:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <20130422203836.B38F4AC0E@smtp.wcoil.com>

I sent a note to the lists a few minutes ago and nothing is coming in. Mark






Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home
Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere
and Hercules Engines.
Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com

CAPITALISM Is the backbone of America and Freedom, Not Government or 
socialism!    



From jneth3 at mac.com  Mon Apr 22 13:55:43 2013
From: jneth3 at mac.com (John Neth)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:55:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <20130422203836.B38F4AC0E@smtp.wcoil.com>
References: <20130422203836.B38F4AC0E@smtp.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <52073E26-B29A-40A7-AE1E-ECE77BDFCAAD@mac.com>

Got you here.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 22, 2013, at 4:38 PM, Mark Shulaw <frappi at wcoil.com> wrote:

> I sent a note to the lists a few minutes ago and nothing is coming in. Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Shulaw
> 454 County Road 33
> Bluffton, OH. 45817
> USA
> 
> Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home
> Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere
> and Hercules Engines.
> Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
> VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com
> 
> CAPITALISM Is the backbone of America and Freedom, Not Government or 
> socialism!    
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From frappi at wcoil.com  Mon Apr 22 13:59:52 2013
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:59:52 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Big Muffler
Message-ID: <20130422205951.8D572ABA1@smtp.wcoil.com>


I tried sending this message a while ago with a link to a picture but 
it never came through, will try it without and see what happens. Mark

Hi All,
Anyone have an idea what this muffler is for? Its 27" long 11" 
diameter approx and has 3"  threaded openings. Weighs about 190 pounds.
The only markings on it are 1X23  H   the second digit represented by 
the X is a bad casting but might be a 2 .
Sure would silence a Maytag wouldn't it.  Mark




Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home
Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere
and Hercules Engines.
Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com

CAPITALISM Is the backbone of America and Freedom, Not Government or 
socialism!    



From david.carroll at talk21.com  Mon Apr 22 14:38:09 2013
From: david.carroll at talk21.com (david.carroll at talk21.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:38:09 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [SEL] Tractor and Engine sale UK
Message-ID: <1366666689.34534.YahooMailNeo@web186103.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>

Hi Gents,

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With best regards

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From bst41474 at bigpond.net.au  Mon Apr 22 16:50:01 2013
From: bst41474 at bigpond.net.au (Barry & Tanya Stait)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:50:01 +1000
Subject: [SEL] NHMA National Rally
In-Reply-To: <5175446D.4030008@moscow.com>
References: <CD9B711A.10422%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
	<5175446D.4030008@moscow.com>
Message-ID: <2BAF9ED588FD41BB9CEFED2ACB0222D0@Stait>

Patrick, what great photos again. I get to see the things I missed out on 
seeing.
And what a great rally. I would like to thank all of you for coming along 
and making it a truly great rally.
Barry

Barry & Tanya Stait.
Mudgee. NSW.
bst41474 at bigpond.net.au

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Orrin Iseminger" <obise at moscow.com>
To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Cc: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Patrick Livingstone" 
<patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] NHMA National Rally


> Patrick, as usual your pictures are fantastic!  Thank you for all the
> hard work you put into making them available for all of us to enjoy.
>     Best regards,
>     Orrin
>
> Orrin Iseminger
> Colton, Washington, USA
> http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
> So many projects.  So little time.
>
> On 4/22/2013 5:58 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote:
>> My first batch of pics from the National:
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_1/index.htm
>> Big could hardly describe this one. There was just to much to see and too
>> many people to chat to.
>> I did run into a couple of bewildered looking American's but they seemed 
>> to
>> having a good time.
>> Now I need some sleep. Such a big event, with two engines of my own, as 
>> well
>> as chasing around a 2 year old is hard work.
>> Patrick
>
> _______________________________________________
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From curt at rustyiron.com  Mon Apr 22 20:05:04 2013
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:05:04 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons
In-Reply-To: <0DB956429BD04200BBFAE6BE4D191858@PeterPC>
References: <0DB956429BD04200BBFAE6BE4D191858@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <378174f4dad0c32752bbd349f58e75ae.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>


Peter,
I did this a few years back on the rings.
<http://oldengine.org/members/holland/images/MakingPistonRings/Thumbnails.html>

Curt Holland
Bessemer City, NC


> Do we have any members who have a web site that shows the steps for
> machining blank pistons and making rings?
>
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>




From curt at rustyiron.com  Mon Apr 22 20:11:21 2013
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:11:21 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons
In-Reply-To: <0DB956429BD04200BBFAE6BE4D191858@PeterPC>
References: <0DB956429BD04200BBFAE6BE4D191858@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <26d0fb6452caf2948be189fd18d743da.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>


Peter,
Here are the machining steps I include with the piston blanks I sell for
Hercules & Economy engines. This might be useful.
<http://oldengine.org/members/holland/images/PistonMachiningSteps/Thumbnails.html>

Curt Holland
Bessemer City, NC

> Do we have any members who have a web site that shows the steps for
> machining blank pistons and making rings?
>
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>




From curt at rustyiron.com  Mon Apr 22 20:18:27 2013
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:18:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons
In-Reply-To: <55776893.73d24b.13e3255be60.Webtop.43@charter.net>
References: <55776893.73d24b.13e3255be60.Webtop.43@charter.net>
Message-ID: <c8bcec33ab50546731232f032821d6ad.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>

J.B.
The method described works well if (and that's a big if) the core didn't
shift in molding/pouring operations! My experience is some shift of the
core mold does occur. Especially on horizontally cast pistons.
The vertical patterns you use are a nice improvement.
Curt Holland
Bessemer City, NC



> This link should get you to a good article.
>
>
> http://wewilliams.net/docs/1925%20-%20The%20Correct%20Way%20to%20Machine%20Oversize%20Pistons%20-%20Bulletin%20No%2085.pdf
>
> J.B.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>
>> Do we have any members who have a web site that shows the steps for
>> machining blank pistons and making rings?
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Peter Lowe
>> R&V Engine Registrar
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>> Australia
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> _______________________________________________
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Mon Apr 22 20:24:20 2013
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (plowe at exemail.com.au)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:24:20 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <380-22013422332420607@M2W103.mail2web.com>

All fine here in Sunny Oz
Peter


I sent a note to the lists a few minutes ago and nothing is coming in. Mark






Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home
Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere
and Hercules Engines.
Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com

CAPITALISM Is the backbone of America and Freedom, Not Government or 
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Mon Apr 22 20:30:42 2013
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (plowe at exemail.com.au)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:30:42 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons
Message-ID: <380-22013422333042538@M2W121.mail2web.com>


Hi Curt
Thanks for the link to your web site, is there one for step by step
machining of pistons?
Peter


Peter,
I did this a few years back on the rings.
<http://oldengine.org/members/holland/images/MakingPistonRings/Thumbnails.ht
ml>

Curt Holland
Bessemer City, NC


> Do we have any members who have a web site that shows the steps for
> machining blank pistons and making rings?
>
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Mon Apr 22 21:37:20 2013
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:37:20 +1000
Subject: [SEL] NHMA National Rally
In-Reply-To: <2BAF9ED588FD41BB9CEFED2ACB0222D0@Stait>
Message-ID: <CD9C4D20.1043E%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

I have now uploaded the second batch of pictures at:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_2/index.htm


Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From rob at rustyiron.com  Tue Apr 23 14:18:55 2013
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:18:55 -0700
Subject: [SEL] NHMA National Rally - Crossley OE
In-Reply-To: <CD9C4D20.1043E%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CD9C4D20.1043E%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AF441E1B-A11C-44B5-812F-5F6408CFBEFD@rustyiron.com>


On Apr 22, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Patrick Livingstone <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have now uploaded the second batch of pictures at:
> 
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_2/index.htm
> 



Nice pictures, Patrick. Thanks.

 
 



From jbcast at charter.net  Tue Apr 23 19:06:34 2013
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:06:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons
Message-ID: <1d9c6c22.74e13c.13e39cad51f.Webtop.43@charter.net>

Curt, we had 70 of them cast, three different patterns, all came out 
good. I'm doing another patern-core box for a three cylinder St Lawrence 
marine engine, will see how it works out.
J.B.







Apr 22, 2013 at 10:18 PM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote:

> J.B.
> The method described works well if (and that's a big if) the core 
> didn't
> shift in molding/pouring operations! My experience is some shift of 
> the
> core mold does occur. Especially on horizontally cast pistons.
> The vertical patterns you use are a nice improvement.
> Curt Holland
> Bessemer City, NC
>
>
>
>> This link should get you to a good article.
>>
>>
>> 
>> http://wewilliams.net/docs/1925%20-%20The%20Correct%20Way%20to%20Machine%20Oversize%20Pistons%20-%20Bulletin%20No%2085.pdf
>>
>> J.B.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>>
>>> Do we have any members who have a web site that shows the steps for
>>> machining blank pistons and making rings?
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Peter Lowe
>>> R&V Engine Registrar
>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>>> Australia
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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From rdi at rochester.rr.com  Wed Apr 24 08:25:46 2013
From: rdi at rochester.rr.com (Rick I.)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:25:46 -0400
Subject: [SEL] NHMA National Rally
References: <mailman.5.1366646401.7924.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <A82079F22696417AAD0F6A7A08F27C3A@marlin>

> From: Patrick Livingstone <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
> Subject: [SEL] NHMA National Rally
>
> My first batch of pics from the National:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_1/index.htm

Thanks, Patrick!  Great batch of photos!

The guy with all the Cooper sheep shearing machinery put in a LOT of 
artistry into his fold-out display, very impressive. (pics 073-075)

Other favorites:
That giant Crossley OE, pic 107
The *eggbeater* display??  pic 116  (I shouldn't laugh- I collect glass 
percolator tops...)
The giant suit-of-armor sheep, pic 224
The really big Blackstone- very amusing because it was on a hand-pull cart, 
pic 507
All those early rare engines shown inside, pics 522-549

-Rick I.



From rob at rustyiron.com  Wed Apr 24 10:10:54 2013
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:10:54 -0700
Subject: [SEL] NHMA National Rally
In-Reply-To: <A82079F22696417AAD0F6A7A08F27C3A@marlin>
References: <mailman.5.1366646401.7924.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
	<A82079F22696417AAD0F6A7A08F27C3A@marlin>
Message-ID: <821B1427-1BD4-4A90-AAF9-26F5A9BE5621@rustyiron.com>


On Apr 24, 2013, at 8:25 AM, Rick I. <rdi at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Patrick!  Great batch of photos!
> 
> The guy with all the Cooper sheep shearing machinery put in a LOT of 
> artistry into his fold-out display, very impressive. (pics 073-075)
> 
> Other favorites:
> That giant Crossley OE, pic 107
> The *eggbeater* display??  pic 116  (I shouldn't laugh- I collect glass 
> percolator tops...)
> The giant suit-of-armor sheep, pic 224
> The really big Blackstone- very amusing because it was on a hand-pull cart, 
> pic 507
> All those early rare engines shown inside, pics 522-549


Right on, Rick. 
Besides the mega-cool indoors engines, the OE was one of my favorites. 





From jbcast at charter.net  Wed Apr 24 19:01:41 2013
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:01:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo
Message-ID: <ae28580.71b904.13e3eecbb5d.Webtop.45@charter.net>


I may be in the Baraboo area for the May swap meet, is it a big meet, 
what days would be best to attend?
J.B. Castagnos


From dleis at centurytel.net  Wed Apr 24 19:15:54 2013
From: dleis at centurytel.net (Stacy Leis)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:15:54 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo
In-Reply-To: <ae28580.71b904.13e3eecbb5d.Webtop.45@charter.net>
References: <ae28580.71b904.13e3eecbb5d.Webtop.45@charter.net>
Message-ID: <9504E2EEC2EF4433B6DC3F2A40382920@StacyHP>

Saturday is the best day they have a auction

-----Original Message----- 
From: jbcast at charter.net 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:01 PM 
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com 
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo 


I may be in the Baraboo area for the May swap meet, is it a big meet, 
what days would be best to attend?
J.B. Castagnos
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From curt at rustyiron.com  Thu Apr 25 04:56:35 2013
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:56:35 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Recycled designs
In-Reply-To: <52073E26-B29A-40A7-AE1E-ECE77BDFCAAD@mac.com>
References: <20130422203836.B38F4AC0E@smtp.wcoil.com>
	<52073E26-B29A-40A7-AE1E-ECE77BDFCAAD@mac.com>
Message-ID: <2499d7da3d06643a2bbdcfe776ace36d.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>


Saw this today. Hailed as latest and greatest engine design, yet they fail
to acknowledge this was done a 100 years ago!
Tommy Turner, look familiar?
<http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/04/24/america-new-engine-future-to-be-made-in-china/>

Curt Holland
Bessemer City, NC



From rob at rustyiron.com  Thu Apr 25 08:32:10 2013
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:32:10 -0700
Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Re=3A__Recycled_designs?=
In-Reply-To: <2499d7da3d06643a2bbdcfe776ace36d.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
References: <20130422203836.B38F4AC0E@smtp.wcoil.com>
	<52073E26-B29A-40A7-AE1E-ECE77BDFCAAD@mac.com>
	<2499d7da3d06643a2bbdcfe776ace36d.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
Message-ID: <426733D4-A50C-479C-A8A7-12B85CEA3515@rustyiron.com>


On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:56 AM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote:

> 
> Saw this today. Hailed as latest and greatest engine design, yet they fail
> to acknowledge this was done a 100 years ago!
> Tommy Turner, look familiar?
> <http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/04/24/america-new-engine-future-to-be-made-in-china/>





Gobron-Brille was building an opposed piston engine long before Kansas City Haypress. 
Tommy, you would look good behind the wheel of one. 

http://www.nethercuttcollection.org/Cars.aspx?era=antique

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobron-Brilli?





From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Thu Apr 25 12:27:33 2013
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 15:27:33 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Re:  Recycled designs
In-Reply-To: <426733D4-A50C-479C-A8A7-12B85CEA3515@rustyiron.com>
References: <20130422203836.B38F4AC0E@smtp.wcoil.com>	<52073E26-B29A-40A7-AE1E-ECE77BDFCAAD@mac.com>	<2499d7da3d06643a2bbdcfe776ace36d.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
	<426733D4-A50C-479C-A8A7-12B85CEA3515@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <006601ce41ea$f03438b0$d09caa10$@scrtc.com>

Rob,
                Hey, technology has allowed great advancements!  Technology
of 100 years ago that is.  I wonder if these folks looked up ?Kansas City
Hay Press? and thought, ?I wonder if that would work now??.  Marv Hedberg is
working on my big KC, it?s the largest one out there.  One of these days
I?ll bring it to Portland and we?ll play with it.

Tommy Turner



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 11:32 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Re: Recycled designs


On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:56 AM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote:

> 
> Saw this today. Hailed as latest and greatest engine design, yet they 
> fail to acknowledge this was done a 100 years ago!
> Tommy Turner, look familiar?
> <http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/04/24/america-new-engine-future-t
> o-be-made-in-china/>





Gobron-Brille was building an opposed piston engine long before Kansas City
Haypress. 
Tommy, you would look good behind the wheel of one. 

http://www.nethercuttcollection.org/Cars.aspx?era=antique

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobron-Brilli?



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From jbcast at charter.net  Fri Apr 26 18:47:59 2013
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 21:47:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo
Message-ID: <7715c136.7330c4.13e492ce6cf.Webtop.46@charter.net>

Thanks Stacy and J, I had the wrong date for the meet, I thought it was 
on the 17th.
J.B.


On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Stacy Leis wrote:

> Saturday is the best day they have a auction
>
> -----Original Message----- From: jbcast at charter.net Sent: Wednesday, 
> April 24, 2013 7:01 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: 
> [SEL] Baraboo
>
> I may be in the Baraboo area for the May swap meet, is it a big meet, 
> what days would be best to attend?
> J.B. Castagnos
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sat Apr 27 04:56:58 2013
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 21:56:58 +1000
Subject: [SEL] 2013 National Pics
Message-ID: <CDA1FA2A.1049D%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

It has taken a few days but I have now tidied up the pictures a bit and
added captions to the engines (when known). Now for some rest and
relaxation.
Tomorrows job will be to re-arrange the engines in the garage. The 1908
Austral has done quite a few rallies now and is due for a rest (before
everyone gets sick of the sight of it). It will get moved to the back corner
of the garage and something else will get moved to the rally ready position.

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_1/index.htm
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_2/index.htm
Patrick


Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From cgandree at mchsi.com  Sat Apr 27 05:15:03 2013
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:15:03 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo
In-Reply-To: <7715c136.7330c4.13e492ce6cf.Webtop.46@charter.net>
Message-ID: <1678499849.10042501367064903242.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

JB,
Just so you know the SEL ATis folks have designated set up area directly behind the craft building in the timber.  Please join us if you make it. Also I set up a banquet dinner for all of us on saturday night if you wish to join.
Hope to meet and see you there.
Curt Andree




----- Original Message -----
From: jbcast at charter.net
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:47:59 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [SEL] Baraboo

Thanks Stacy and J, I had the wrong date for the meet, I thought it was 
on the 17th.
J.B.


On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Stacy Leis wrote:

> Saturday is the best day they have a auction
>
> -----Original Message----- From: jbcast at charter.net Sent: Wednesday, 
> April 24, 2013 7:01 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: 
> [SEL] Baraboo
>
> I may be in the Baraboo area for the May swap meet, is it a big meet, 
> what days would be best to attend?
> J.B. Castagnos
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From cgandree at mchsi.com  Sat Apr 27 05:25:36 2013
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:25:36 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo
In-Reply-To: <1678499849.10042501367064903242.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
Message-ID: <1369008177.10043161367065536037.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

JB,
Spoke before I read your original msg request.  I was talking about the annual show in August not the swap meet.  However, I will be at the swap meet this weekend too.  Look for my red Dodge 2500RAM truck with a red topper and trailer (Illinois plates). Normally set up just to the right of the gate about 3 - 4 rows in towards the south end. Wouldn't mind meeting you.
Curt

----- Original Message -----
From: cgandree at mchsi.com
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 7:15:03 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [SEL] Baraboo

JB,
Just so you know the SEL ATis folks have designated set up area directly behind the craft building in the timber.  Please join us if you make it. Also I set up a banquet dinner for all of us on saturday night if you wish to join.
Hope to meet and see you there.
Curt Andree




----- Original Message -----
From: jbcast at charter.net
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:47:59 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [SEL] Baraboo

Thanks Stacy and J, I had the wrong date for the meet, I thought it was 
on the 17th.
J.B.


On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Stacy Leis wrote:

> Saturday is the best day they have a auction
>
> -----Original Message----- From: jbcast at charter.net Sent: Wednesday, 
> April 24, 2013 7:01 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: 
> [SEL] Baraboo
>
> I may be in the Baraboo area for the May swap meet, is it a big meet, 
> what days would be best to attend?
> J.B. Castagnos
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From obise at moscow.com  Sat Apr 27 15:50:09 2013
From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:50:09 -0700
Subject: [SEL] 2013 National Pics
In-Reply-To: <CDA1FA2A.1049D%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CDA1FA2A.1049D%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <517C5621.3060902@moscow.com>

Patrick, I'm amazed at the number of pictures you took and even more 
amazed at your total effort.  Wow!

Thank you for all your hard work and for posting them.

     Best regards,
     Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.

On 4/27/2013 4:56 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote:
> It has taken a few days but I have now tidied up the pictures a bit and
> added captions to the engines (when known). Now for some rest and
> relaxation.
> Snip.
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_1/index.htm
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_2/index.htm
> Patrick
>
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> 0418 692013
> Earlwood NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>


From rotigel at me.com  Sat Apr 27 18:31:05 2013
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 21:31:05 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo
In-Reply-To: <1678499849.10042501367064903242.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
References: <1678499849.10042501367064903242.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
Message-ID: <0938D97B-EFA1-45E4-8827-95E7158C5704@me.com>

Hi Curt, I hope that you will pick a different place for the dinner this year. I no longer feel safe at the place we have eaten in past years. 
	Dave
PS, This is off list.

On Apr 27, 2013, at 8:15 AM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote:

> JB,
> Just so you know the SEL ATis folks have designated set up area directly behind the craft building in the timber.  Please join us if you make it. Also I set up a banquet dinner for all of us on saturday night if you wish to join.
> Hope to meet and see you there.
> Curt Andree
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jbcast at charter.net
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:47:59 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Baraboo
> 
> Thanks Stacy and J, I had the wrong date for the meet, I thought it was 
> on the 17th.
> J.B.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Stacy Leis wrote:
> 
>> Saturday is the best day they have a auction
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: jbcast at charter.net Sent: Wednesday, 
>> April 24, 2013 7:01 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: 
>> [SEL] Baraboo
>> 
>> I may be in the Baraboo area for the May swap meet, is it a big meet, 
>> what days would be best to attend?
>> J.B. Castagnos
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From jbcast at charter.net  Sat Apr 27 19:36:19 2013
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 22:36:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo
Message-ID: <61175c88.7391ab.13e4e7f83b5.Webtop.46@charter.net>

I won't be able to make the Baraboo swap meet Curt, I was invited to 
attend a workshop to write the test for the ASE (Automotive Service 
Excellence) will be in Leesburg, VA that week. A local friend bought a 
motor on Ebay and it was picked up by a friend in Roscoe, IL. We thought 
we could make the meet the same weekend, had the wrong date, will try to 
find another event on the way to make the trip more interesting.
J.B.



On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:

> Hi Curt, I hope that you will pick a different place for the dinner 
> this year. I no longer feel safe at the place we have eaten in past 
> years. 	Dave
> PS, This is off list.
>
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 8:15 AM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote:
>
>> JB,
>> Just so you know the SEL ATis folks have designated set up area 
>> directly behind the craft building in the timber.  Please join us if 
>> you make it. Also I set up a banquet dinner for all of us on saturday 
>> night if you wish to join.
>> Hope to meet and see you there.
>> Curt Andree
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: jbcast at charter.net
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:47:59 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Baraboo
>>
>> Thanks Stacy and J, I had the wrong date for the meet, I thought it 
>> was on the 17th.
>> J.B.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Stacy Leis wrote:
>>
>>> Saturday is the best day they have a auction
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: jbcast at charter.net Sent: Wednesday, 
>>> April 24, 2013 7:01 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: 
>>> [SEL] Baraboo
>>>
>>> I may be in the Baraboo area for the May swap meet, is it a big 
>>> meet, what days would be best to attend?
>>> J.B. Castagnos
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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>> SEL mailing list
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>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
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From rotigel at me.com  Sun Apr 28 04:10:36 2013
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 07:10:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo
In-Reply-To: <0938D97B-EFA1-45E4-8827-95E7158C5704@me.com>
References: <1678499849.10042501367064903242.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
	<0938D97B-EFA1-45E4-8827-95E7158C5704@me.com>
Message-ID: <9628C55C-1918-4194-9CCA-FEFD306C6A78@me.com>

Sorry (Curt, and) ALL--that was to go to Curt ONLY! My BAD!
	Dave

On Apr 27, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:

> Hi Curt, I hope that you will pick a different place for the dinner this year. I no longer feel safe at the place we have eaten in past years. 
> 	Dave
> PS, This is off list.
> 
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 8:15 AM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote:
> 
>> JB,
>> Just so you know the SEL ATis folks have designated set up area directly behind the craft building in the timber.  Please join us if you make it. Also I set up a banquet dinner for all of us on saturday night if you wish to join.
>> Hope to meet and see you there.
>> Curt Andree
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: jbcast at charter.net
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:47:59 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Baraboo
>> 
>> Thanks Stacy and J, I had the wrong date for the meet, I thought it was 
>> on the 17th.
>> J.B.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Stacy Leis wrote:
>> 
>>> Saturday is the best day they have a auction
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: jbcast at charter.net Sent: Wednesday, 
>>> April 24, 2013 7:01 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: 
>>> [SEL] Baraboo
>>> 
>>> I may be in the Baraboo area for the May swap meet, is it a big meet, 
>>> what days would be best to attend?
>>> J.B. Castagnos
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
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>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> 
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From rotigel at me.com  Sun Apr 28 11:58:27 2013
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:58:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Drag saw Blade Sharpening
Message-ID: <A3F37AF0-25FB-4CAD-9ADF-3AA65E686698@me.com>

Hi All,
	Some of you know that I've been interested in drag saws for a good bit of time now, and further that (after buying a Hercules drag saw at Portland last year) and sawing up a 16' (30 " popular) log into many 3" pieces the Zolfo Show in Feb. of this year, I became interested in learning how to sharpen the drag saw blades. I've yet to find anything much on the net re: the sharpening of drag saw blades, but much of what is "out there" re: sharpening crosscut saws applies also to drag saws. (See: http://www.bchw.org/Tech%20tips/Crosscut%20Sharpening.htm      one of the best is: http://www.bchw.org/Tech%20tips/FilerDVD.htm  ) 
	There are many tools available on e-bay for sharpening a crosscut (and therefore a drag) saw blade. One of then is for setting the teeth and was manufactured by Buller. I located this one ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/290868176663?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 ) in March and am very pleased with the way it works, and the fact that it is adjustable. Three of them showed up on ebay in early March. I'm sure that more will show up! If you decide to buy tools for sharpening drag (crosscut) saw blades be sure it (they) are combination tools--i.e. jointer, raker and pin gage tools. Disston and Simonds are two of the most common. (Atkins is also a common brand, but many of the Atkins were early and did not have the pin gage on them.) Don't worry about buying a "long" raker. (You don't need one UNLESS you are sharpening a crosscut saw for competition--and if so, you already know one hell of a lot more than I do about all this and probably already own a long raker!)
	The most important thing I have learned in the last month about sharpening drag saw blades is that the difference in height between the cutting teeth and the raker teeth IS CRITICAL! My first attempt at sharpening a blade was to have the rakers about .030 (~1/32) below the cutting teeth. (The Disston literature says 1/64-1/32. The Ottawa log saw literature says the same.) I figured that MORE had to be better than LESS, right? NOT! Both my Hercules and a friend's Witte log saw would jam and make the clutch slip with the rakers at that depth. (The set on the cutting teeth did not seem to batter very much.) I changed the depth of the rakers to ~.012 (just a bit less than 1/64) and both the Hercules and the Witte cut just fine! (I think the Ottawa may be able to push the blade with a .030 difference, but the Ottawa is a 5 HP.)
	I also found that two good saw vises help a lot when sharpening a blade. (BIG "C" clamps and 4X4's will work as well, but the vices I bought on ebay (See: http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-ANTIQUE-HENRY-DISSTON-SONS-SAW-VISE-CLAMP-FILER-TOOL-CROSSCUT-SAW-LOGGING-/380591710610?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=TcdmMwgeit4h96MYIViSffpllGc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc  ) help because you are able to tilt them when sharpening the cutting teeth. A REAL saw vice would really be nice to have--but I don't think I will be going into production with this project soon! If I can help anyone with the little bit of knowledge I've accumulated over the past 6 weeks, or so please feel free to contact me!
	Dave


From Germoamer at aol.com  Sun Apr 28 13:12:19 2013
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 16:12:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Drag saw Blade Sharpening
Message-ID: <110a81.7d44967d.3eaedca2@aol.com>



 
In a message dated 4/28/2013 3:07:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rotigel at me.com writes:

The most important thing I have learned in the last month about  sharpening 
drag saw blades is that the difference in height between the  cutting teeth 
and the raker teeth IS CRITICAL! 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
 
Yep, that is true and easily screwed up on chain saws too.  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord, Va.  
germoamer at aol.com




From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 28 13:43:52 2013
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:43:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Drag saw Blade Sharpening
In-Reply-To: <A3F37AF0-25FB-4CAD-9ADF-3AA65E686698@me.com>
Message-ID: <1367181832.95179.YahooMailClassic@web126102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I have been sharpening saws and drill bits?for a long time.
I was taught by an old guy that was a great hand filer.
For the two man or one man cross cut saws I have the?saw that my father and step-father used years ago to saw firewood for a living. I also have the tools they used to sharpen them with. 
My step-father spent more time with my dad and grand-father than he did with his own family. He told me that he and my dad made more money with the firewood than any two guys working in a shop in town even though half of what they cut had to stay with the guy that owned the land. 
Dad was born in 1915 and my step-father was born in 1916.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sun, 4/28/13, Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:


From: Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
Subject: [SEL] Drag saw Blade Sharpening
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>, "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Date: Sunday, April 28, 2013, 2:58 PM


Hi All,
??? Some of you know that I've been interested in drag saws for a good bit of time now, and further that (after buying a Hercules drag saw at Portland last year) and sawing up a 16' (30 " popular) log into many 3" pieces the Zolfo Show in Feb. of this year, I became interested in learning how to sharpen the drag saw blades. I've yet to find anything much on the net re: the sharpening of drag saw blades, but much of what is "out there" re: sharpening crosscut saws applies also to drag saws. (See: http://www.bchw.org/Tech%20tips/Crosscut%20Sharpening.htm? ? ? one of the best is: http://www.bchw.org/Tech%20tips/FilerDVD.htm? ) 
??? There are many tools available on e-bay for sharpening a crosscut (and therefore a drag) saw blade. One of then is for setting the teeth and was manufactured by Buller. I located this one ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/290868176663?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 ) in March and am very pleased with the way it works, and the fact that it is adjustable. Three of them showed up on ebay in early March. I'm sure that more will show up! If you decide to buy tools for sharpening drag (crosscut) saw blades be sure it (they) are combination tools--i.e. jointer, raker and pin gage tools. Disston and Simonds are two of the most common. (Atkins is also a common brand, but many of the Atkins were early and did not have the pin gage on them.) Don't worry about buying a "long" raker. (You don't need one UNLESS you are sharpening a crosscut saw for competition--and if so, you already know one hell of a lot more than I do about all this and probably
 already own a long raker!)
??? The most important thing I have learned in the last month about sharpening drag saw blades is that the difference in height between the cutting teeth and the raker teeth IS CRITICAL! My first attempt at sharpening a blade was to have the rakers about .030 (~1/32) below the cutting teeth. (The Disston literature says 1/64-1/32. The Ottawa log saw literature says the same.) I figured that MORE had to be better than LESS, right? NOT! Both my Hercules and a friend's Witte log saw would jam and make the clutch slip with the rakers at that depth. (The set on the cutting teeth did not seem to batter very much.) I changed the depth of the rakers to ~.012 (just a bit less than 1/64) and both the Hercules and the Witte cut just fine! (I think the Ottawa may be able to push the blade with a .030 difference, but the Ottawa is a 5 HP.)
??? I also found that two good saw vises help a lot when sharpening a blade. (BIG "C" clamps and 4X4's will work as well, but the vices I bought on ebay (See: http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-ANTIQUE-HENRY-DISSTON-SONS-SAW-VISE-CLAMP-FILER-TOOL-CROSSCUT-SAW-LOGGING-/380591710610?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=TcdmMwgeit4h96MYIViSffpllGc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc? ) help because you are able to tilt them when sharpening the cutting teeth. A REAL saw vice would really be nice to have--but I don't think I will be going into production with this project soon! If I can help anyone with the little bit of knowledge I've accumulated over the past 6 weeks, or so please feel free to contact me!
??? Dave
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From jbcast at charter.net  Sun Apr 28 15:31:08 2013
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 18:31:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Drag saw Blade Sharpening
Message-ID: <58286c1c.775c97.13e52c566d9.Webtop.43@charter.net>

Good info Dave, I'll pass it along to a friend with a drag saw. Reminds 
me of my early years in the hobby, Dickie Gibbens bought an Ottawa drag 
saw, after watching it operate for a few minutes I told him "aint 
nothing on there can't hurt you".
J.B. Castagnos


On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:

> Hi All,
> 	Some of you know that I've been interested in drag saws for a good 
> bit of time now, and further that (after buying a Hercules drag saw at 
> Portland last year) and sawing up a 16' (30 " popular) log into many 
> 3" pieces the Zolfo Show in Feb. of this year, I became interested in 
> learning how to sharpen the drag saw blades. I've yet to find anything 
> much on the net re: the sharpening of drag saw blades, but much of 
> what is "out there" re: sharpening crosscut saws applies also to drag 
> saws. (See: http://www.bchw.org/Tech%20tips/Crosscut%20Sharpening.htm 
> one of the best is: http://www.bchw.org/Tech%20tips/FilerDVD.htm  ) 	 
> There are many tools available on e-bay for sharpening a crosscut (and 
> therefore a drag) saw blade. One of then is for setting the teeth and 
> was manufactured by Buller. I located this one ( 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/290868176663?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 
> ) in March and am very pleased with the way it works, and the fact 
> that it is adjustable. Three of them showed up on ebay in early March. 
> I'm sure that more will show up! If you decide to buy tools for 
> sharpening drag (crosscut) saw blades be sure it (they) are 
> combination tools--i.e. jointer, raker and pin gage tools. Disston and 
> Simonds are two of the most common. (Atkins is also a common brand, 
> but many of the Atkins were early and did not have the pin gage on 
> them.) Don't worry about buying a "long" raker. (You don't need one 
> UNLESS you are sharpening a crosscut saw for competition--and if so, 
> you already know one hell of a lot more than I do about all this and 
> probably already own a long raker!)
> 	The most important thing I have learned in the last month about 
> sharpening drag saw blades is that the difference in height between 
> the cutting teeth and the raker teeth IS CRITICAL! My first attempt at 
> sharpening a blade was to have the rakers about .030 (~1/32) below the 
> cutting teeth. (The Disston literature says 1/64-1/32. The Ottawa log 
> saw literature says the same.) I figured that MORE had to be better 
> than LESS, right? NOT! Both my Hercules and a friend's Witte log saw 
> would jam and make the clutch slip with the rakers at that depth. (The 
> set on the cutting teeth did not seem to batter very much.) I changed 
> the depth of the rakers to ~.012 (just a bit less than 1/64) and both 
> the Hercules and the Witte cut just fine! (I think the Ottawa may be 
> able to push the blade with a .030 difference, but the Ottawa is a 5 
> HP.)
> 	I also found that two good saw vises help a lot when sharpening a 
> blade. (BIG "C" clamps and 4X4's will work as well, but the vices I 
> bought on ebay (See: 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-ANTIQUE-HENRY-DISSTON-SONS-SAW-VISE-CLAMP-FILER-TOOL-CROSSCUT-SAW-LOGGING-/380591710610?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=TcdmMwgeit4h96MYIViSffpllGc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc 
> ) help because you are able to tilt them when sharpening the cutting 
> teeth. A REAL saw vice would really be nice to have--but I don't think 
> I will be going into production with this project soon! If I can help 
> anyone with the little bit of knowledge I've accumulated over the past 
> 6 weeks, or so please feel free to contact me!
> 	Dave
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From bst41474 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Apr 30 05:33:34 2013
From: bst41474 at bigpond.net.au (Barry & Tanya Stait)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 22:33:34 +1000
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
Message-ID: <3D74DA53A4DF4FF784D0EB753506EE7A@Stait>

Hi everyone,
Here is a link to some more photos of the national rally taken by the manger of the AREC site.
http://www.mudgeebusiness.com/antique-machinery-rally.html
Still doing the final figures, but it appears we had over 13,000 people through the gate.
Thanks again to everyone who came along and made a great rally.
Barry.
Barry & Tanya Stait.
Mudgee. NSW. Aust.
bst41474 at bigpond.net.au

From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 30 11:16:26 2013
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 11:16:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
In-Reply-To: <3D74DA53A4DF4FF784D0EB753506EE7A@Stait>
Message-ID: <1367345786.88767.YahooMailClassic@web126105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

13,000 through the gate?
How many days?
Is that a total for the whole show?
I thought the National would be a larger show.
I still would love to make it down there for your engine season some time.
?
At just our local show we have seen up to 40,000 just on a Saturday.
http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Tue, 4/30/13, Barry & Tanya Stait <bst41474 at bigpond.net.au> wrote:


From: Barry & Tanya Stait <bst41474 at bigpond.net.au>
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 8:33 AM


Hi everyone,
Here is a link to some more photos of the national rally taken by the manger of the AREC site.
http://www.mudgeebusiness.com/antique-machinery-rally.html
Still doing the final figures, but it appears we had over 13,000 people through the gate.
Thanks again to everyone who came along and made a great rally.
Barry.
Barry & Tanya Stait.
Mudgee. NSW. Aust.
bst41474 at bigpond.net.au
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From brian.watts6 at bigpond.com  Tue Apr 30 15:44:00 2013
From: brian.watts6 at bigpond.com (Brian Watts)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 08:44:00 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Not much mail
Message-ID: <000001ce45f4$35ca24e0$a15e6ea0$@watts6@bigpond.com>



Is everyone asleep or is my computer ?

I am not getting any mail


From langer5 at xplornet.ca  Tue Apr 30 16:40:57 2013
From: langer5 at xplornet.ca (Larry Anger)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 19:40:57 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Not much mail
In-Reply-To: <51804a1b.6148ec0a.6c63.7bd1SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
References: <51804a1b.6148ec0a.6c63.7bd1SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <46BABCC1-B38E-4BC9-A971-536CDB7F8CA5@xplornet.ca>

I'm still awake here!!!! For a little while!!

Larry Anger

On 2013-04-30, at 6:44 PM, "Brian Watts" <brian.watts6 at bigpond.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Is everyone asleep or is my computer ?
> 
> I am not getting any mail
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From rob at rustyiron.com  Tue Apr 30 16:52:13 2013
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 16:52:13 -0700
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
In-Reply-To: <1367345786.88767.YahooMailClassic@web126105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1367345786.88767.YahooMailClassic@web126105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0A92B41B-9AA5-450C-9EC6-B371612CAF48@rustyiron.com>


On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 13,000 through the gate?
> How many days?
> Is that a total for the whole show?
> I thought the National would be a larger show.
> I still would love to make it down there for your engine season some time.
>  
> At just our local show we have seen up to 40,000 just on a Saturday.
> http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/


What the Australians might have lacked in gross attendance, 
they more than made up for in QUALITY engines. 









From al.harris at rustic-engines.com  Tue Apr 30 17:05:23 2013
From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 10:05:23 +1000
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
In-Reply-To: <0A92B41B-9AA5-450C-9EC6-B371612CAF48@rustyiron.com>
References: <1367345786.88767.YahooMailClassic@web126105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<0A92B41B-9AA5-450C-9EC6-B371612CAF48@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <51805C43.2050008@rustic-engines.com>

I wonder how USA v Oz would compare on a "per population" percentage basis?


On 1/05/2013 9:52 AM, Rob Skinner wrote:
> On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> 13,000 through the gate?
>> How many days?
>> Is that a total for the whole show?
>> I thought the National would be a larger show.
>> I still would love to make it down there for your engine season some time.
>>   
>> At just our local show we have seen up to 40,000 just on a Saturday.
>> http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/
>
> What the Australians might have lacked in gross attendance,
> they more than made up for in QUALITY engines.
>
>



From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 30 17:47:48 2013
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 17:47:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
In-Reply-To: <0A92B41B-9AA5-450C-9EC6-B371612CAF48@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <1367369268.35125.YahooMailClassic@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I sure KNOW that. 
With all of those beautiful engines there it seems more people would show up.
Alan in Michigan

--- On Tue, 4/30/13, Rob Skinner <rob at rustyiron.com> wrote:


From: Rob Skinner <rob at rustyiron.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 7:52 PM



On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 13,000 through the gate?
> How many days?
> Is that a total for the whole show?
> I thought the National would be a larger show.
> I still would love to make it down there for your engine season some time.
>? 
> At just our local show we have seen up to 40,000 just on a Saturday.
> http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/


What the Australians might have lacked in gross attendance, 
they more than made up for in QUALITY engines. 







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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 30 17:52:27 2013
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 17:52:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
In-Reply-To: <51805C43.2050008@rustic-engines.com>
Message-ID: <1367369547.66127.YahooMailClassic@web126102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Or it could be because we have a lot of ground that belongs to the club and there is a lot for the whole family to do. 
I also can invite just anyone under my canopy to have a seat while my engines are running.
All I can do is set here and drool over those pictures from down there.
?
Alan
--- On Tue, 4/30/13, Al Harris <al.harris at rustic-engines.com> wrote:


From: Al Harris <al.harris at rustic-engines.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 8:05 PM


I wonder how USA v Oz would compare on a "per population" percentage basis?


On 1/05/2013 9:52 AM, Rob Skinner wrote:
> On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> 13,000 through the gate?
>> How many days?
>> Is that a total for the whole show?
>> I thought the National would be a larger show.
>> I still would love to make it down there for your engine season some time.
>>???
>> At just our local show we have seen up to 40,000 just on a Saturday.
>> http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/
>
> What the Australians might have lacked in gross attendance,
> they more than made up for in QUALITY engines.
>
>

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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Tue Apr 30 17:53:27 2013
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 10:53:27 +1000
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
In-Reply-To: <51805C43.2050008@rustic-engines.com>
Message-ID: <CDA6A433.4073%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

There is quite a big difference in population. USA is at approximately 311
million while Australia is at around 23 million (covering a similar land
size). So percentage wise it was not a bad crowd. Saying that, I thought
there would have been more through the gate for such a great event.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





On 1/05/13 10:05 AM, "Al Harris" <al.harris at rustic-engines.com> wrote:

>I wonder how USA v Oz would compare on a "per population" percentage
>basis?
>
>
>On 1/05/2013 9:52 AM, Rob Skinner wrote:
>> On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 13,000 through the gate?
>>> How many days?
>>> Is that a total for the whole show?
>>> I thought the National would be a larger show.
>>> I still would love to make it down there for your engine season some
>>>time.
>>>   
>>> At just our local show we have seen up to 40,000 just on a Saturday.
>>> http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/
>>
>> What the Australians might have lacked in gross attendance,
>> they more than made up for in QUALITY engines.
>>
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue Apr 30 17:40:57 2013
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 20:40:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
Message-ID: <3399c.6761b039.3eb1be99@aol.com>



 
In a message dated 4/30/2013 7:57:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rob at rustyiron.com writes:

What the Australians might have lacked in gross attendance,  
they more than made up for in QUALITY engines. 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------


I will agree with that 100%!  I sure have enjoyed looking at  all the great 
pictures of a great show!
 
 
 
Tom  Schmutz
Concord, Va.  
germoamer at aol.com




From al.harris at rustic-engines.com  Tue Apr 30 18:33:40 2013
From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 11:33:40 +1000
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
In-Reply-To: <CDA6A433.4073%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CDA6A433.4073%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <518070F4.4090306@rustic-engines.com>

That is exactly what I was eluding to Patrick. Saturday was by far the 
biggest day and that has to be seen in the context that Mudgee is not a 
huge town and there are no close dense cities to draw folk from. I think 
the local club performed magnificently.
Don't know about that gruff old bloke on the PA though. ;-)

BTW that's a nice shot of that old, bright yellow Sunshine Type B - 2HP 
- No.275.  :-)

Al
Formerly of Earlwood.
Currently of Ashby.


On 1/05/2013 10:53 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote:
> There is quite a big difference in population. USA is at approximately 311
> million while Australia is at around 23 million (covering a similar land
> size). So percentage wise it was not a bad crowd. Saying that, I thought
> there would have been more through the gate for such a great event.
> Patrick
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> 0418 692013
> Earlwood NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/05/13 10:05 AM, "Al Harris" <al.harris at rustic-engines.com> wrote:
>
>> I wonder how USA v Oz would compare on a "per population" percentage
>> basis?
>>
>>
>> On 1/05/2013 9:52 AM, Rob Skinner wrote:
>>> On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 13,000 through the gate?
>>>> How many days?
>>>> Is that a total for the whole show?
>>>> I thought the National would be a larger show.
>>>> I still would love to make it down there for your engine season some
>>>> time.
>>>>    
>>>> At just our local show we have seen up to 40,000 just on a Saturday.
>>>> http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/
>>> What the Australians might have lacked in gross attendance,
>>> they more than made up for in QUALITY engines.
>>>
>>>
>>



From bst41474 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Apr 30 23:06:59 2013
From: bst41474 at bigpond.net.au (Barry & Tanya Stait)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 16:06:59 +1000
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
In-Reply-To: <1367345786.88767.YahooMailClassic@web126105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1367345786.88767.YahooMailClassic@web126105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <EFFE2A7C54DD4C07813A8AEF3D2213EB@Stait>

The rally was over 3 days. 13,000 was the general public through the gate. 
Had over 1,200 items on display.
Barry.
Barry & Tanya Stait.
Mudgee. NSW. Aust.
bst41474 at bigpond.net.au

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan" <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 4:16 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.


13,000 through the gate?
How many days?
Is that a total for the whole show?
I thought the National would be a larger show.
I still would love to make it down there for your engine season some time.

At just our local show we have seen up to 40,000 just on a Saturday.
http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/

Alan in Michigan

--- On Tue, 4/30/13, Barry & Tanya Stait <bst41474 at bigpond.net.au> wrote:


From: Barry & Tanya Stait <bst41474 at bigpond.net.au>
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 8:33 AM


Hi everyone,
Here is a link to some more photos of the national rally taken by the manger 
of the AREC site.
http://www.mudgeebusiness.com/antique-machinery-rally.html
Still doing the final figures, but it appears we had over 13,000 people 
through the gate.
Thanks again to everyone who came along and made a great rally.
Barry.
Barry & Tanya Stait.
Mudgee. NSW. Aust.
bst41474 at bigpond.net.au
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From brian.watts6 at bigpond.com  Thu Apr  4 14:53:45 2013
From: brian.watts6 at bigpond.com (Brian Watts)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:53:45 +1100
Subject: [SEL] FW: Engines For Sale
Message-ID: <003901ce317e$e1692dd0$a43b8970$@watts6@bigpond.com>



 

 

From: Brian Watts [mailto:brian.watts6 at bigpond.com] 
Sent: 05 April 2013 08:16
To: 'stationary-engine at oldengine.org'
Subject: Engines For Sale

 

There are 5 Blackstone Engines for sale from our collection.

We have retired from collecting and all engines are for genuine sale.

 

Contact David Watts for details.

damewatt at bigpond.com

 


From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Fri Apr  5 07:06:38 2013
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:06:38 -0600
Subject: [SEL] FW: Engines For Sale
In-Reply-To: <003901ce317e$e1692dd0$a43b8970$@watts6@bigpond.com>
References: <003901ce317e$e1692dd0$a43b8970$@watts6@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <SNT143-ds1471074316CC171198BB95BBDA0@phx.gbl>

Brian, I've forwarded this to the pres. of the EDGE&TA Club in Huntley 
Project, Montana. They are looking for a project engine.

Regards,
RickinMt.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Watts" <brian.watts6 at bigpond.com>
To: "'Staqtionary Engine List '" <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 3:53 PM
Subject: [SEL] FW: Engines For Sale


>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Brian Watts [mailto:brian.watts6 at bigpond.com]
> Sent: 05 April 2013 08:16
> To: 'stationary-engine at oldengine.org'
> Subject: Engines For Sale
>
>
>
> There are 5 Blackstone Engines for sale from our collection.
>
> We have retired from collecting and all engines are for genuine sale.
>
>
>
> Contact David Watts for details.
>
> damewatt at bigpond.com
>
>
>
> > _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 


From brian.watts6 at bigpond.com  Fri Apr  5 13:43:56 2013
From: brian.watts6 at bigpond.com (Brian Watts)
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 07:43:56 +1100
Subject: [SEL] : Engines For Sale
Message-ID: <000601ce323e$4b23c680$e16b5380$@watts6@bigpond.com>



There are 5 Blackstone Engines for sale from our collection.

We have retired from collecting and all engines are for genuine sale.

Engines are  on utube,link is below

 

Contact David Watts for details.

damewatt at bigpond.com

 
http://www.youtube.com/user/brianvwatts



 


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From rob at rustyiron.com  Fri Apr  5 15:11:05 2013
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 15:11:05 -0700
Subject: [SEL] : Engines For Sale
In-Reply-To: <000601ce323e$4b23c680$e16b5380$@watts6@bigpond.com>
References: <000601ce323e$4b23c680$e16b5380$@watts6@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <9718E525-7C77-4E83-8288-9DDC206C38A1@rustyiron.com>


On Apr 5, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Brian Watts <brian.watts6 at bigpond.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> There are 5 Blackstone Engines for sale from our collection.
> 
> We have retired from collecting and all engines are for genuine sale.
> 
> Engines are  on utube,link is below
> 
> 
> 
> Contact David Watts for details.
> 
> damewatt at bigpond.com
> 



The last time you announced the sale, all my emails went unanswered, as did emails from another friend. Email glitch?






From rotigel at me.com  Fri Apr  5 18:35:43 2013
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 21:35:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] : Engines For Sale
In-Reply-To: <9718E525-7C77-4E83-8288-9DDC206C38A1@rustyiron.com>
References: <000601ce323e$4b23c680$e16b5380$%watts6@bigpond.com>
	<9718E525-7C77-4E83-8288-9DDC206C38A1@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <CBA77136-6324-4A56-8DFF-237F881C6216@me.com>

Hi Rob, I'm looking for a Blackstone that is for UN-GENUINE sale. Can you help me?
	Dave

On Apr 5, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Rob Skinner wrote:

> 
> On Apr 5, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Brian Watts <brian.watts6 at bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> There are 5 Blackstone Engines for sale from our collection.
>> 
>> We have retired from collecting and all engines are for genuine sale.
>> 
>> Engines are  on utube,link is below
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Contact David Watts for details.
>> 
>> damewatt at bigpond.com
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> The last time you announced the sale, all my emails went unanswered, as did emails from another friend. Email glitch?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From rob at rustyiron.com  Fri Apr  5 19:34:56 2013
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 19:34:56 -0700
Subject: [SEL] : Engines For Sale
In-Reply-To: <CBA77136-6324-4A56-8DFF-237F881C6216@me.com>
References: <000601ce323e$4b23c680$e16b5380$%watts6@bigpond.com>
	<9718E525-7C77-4E83-8288-9DDC206C38A1@rustyiron.com>
	<CBA77136-6324-4A56-8DFF-237F881C6216@me.com>
Message-ID: <954FC731-74AA-4065-A779-37256B5832AC@rustyiron.com>


On Apr 5, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:

> Hi Rob, I'm looking for a Blackstone that is for UN-GENUINE sale. Can you help me?
> 	Dave




Yes, Dave. 
Please send GENUINE cash. 
The more, the better.
 
Rob






From brian.watts6 at bigpond.com  Sat Apr  6 02:21:47 2013
From: brian.watts6 at bigpond.com (Brian Watts)
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 20:21:47 +1100
Subject: [SEL] : Engines For Sale
In-Reply-To: <9718E525-7C77-4E83-8288-9DDC206C38A1@rustyiron.com>
References: <000601ce323e$4b23c680$e16b5380$@watts6@bigpond.com>
	<9718E525-7C77-4E83-8288-9DDC206C38A1@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <001201ce32a8$29f09410$7dd1bc30$@watts6@bigpond.com>

Email should have read "For Sale ONLY to genuine buyers"

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner
Sent: 06 April 2013 09:11
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] : Engines For Sale


On Apr 5, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Brian Watts <brian.watts6 at bigpond.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> There are 5 Blackstone Engines for sale from our collection.
> 
> We have retired from collecting and all engines are for genuine sale.
> 
> Engines are  on utube,link is below
> 
> 
> 
> Contact David Watts for details.
> 
> damewatt at bigpond.com
> 



The last time you announced the sale, all my emails went unanswered, as did
emails from another friend. Email glitch?




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From frappi at wcoil.com  Mon Apr  8 06:09:43 2013
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2013 09:09:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Condolences
In-Reply-To: <DF2CC143-1CEB-4A5A-90E2-C34FD9650264@eldensengines.com>
References: <515B496E.4000301@eldensengines.com>
	<CEB243F9-F9C2-40FE-8674-67298CA1B243@eldensengines.com>
	<5446C7F7-2DCD-4194-A1C1-5643B34D270B@eldensengines.com>
	<C7D71CCE5A2B4A79A2F63D2E2CC4DB82@regpc>
	<5C8F2D61-DE2D-48AE-A091-161B605BCB38@eldensengines.com>
	<3DEA313A4B224B998E8FCE18E959AFF5@regpc>
	<DF2CC143-1CEB-4A5A-90E2-C34FD9650264@eldensengines.com>
Message-ID: <20130408130943.483CDA934@smtp.wcoil.com>


Condolences to our British Allies on the loss of a Great Leader 
Margaret Thatcher, One of the last of the Great Cold War Allied leaders.


Mark Shulaw



Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home
Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere
and Hercules Engines.
Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com

CAPITALISM Is the backbone of America and Freedom, Not Government or 
socialism!    



From swebre at hotmail.com  Mon Apr  8 09:38:26 2013
From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 16:38:26 +0000
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 109, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2.1365436801.23080.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
References: <mailman.2.1365436801.23080.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W1161697633A938DF420AADBC50@phx.gbl>

Here!  Here! 

-Steve- 

 
Condolences to our British Allies on the loss of a Great Leader 
Margaret Thatcher, One of the last of the Great Cold War Allied leaders.
 
Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA
 

 		 	   		  

From jneth3 at mac.com  Mon Apr  8 11:33:45 2013
From: jneth3 at mac.com (John Neth)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2013 14:33:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 109, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W1161697633A938DF420AADBC50@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.2.1365436801.23080.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
	<BLU172-W1161697633A938DF420AADBC50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9D5BFA04-F263-4B3E-A6ED-71548D39E4C3@mac.com>

RR and the Iron Lady were the right people at the right time and right place in History.  Let us hope their legacy will live on.  Hats off to a wonderful Lady.

John

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Steve Webre <swebre at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Here!  Here! 
> 
> -Steve- 
> 
> 
> Condolences to our British Allies on the loss of a Great Leader 
> Margaret Thatcher, One of the last of the Great Cold War Allied leaders.
> 
> Mark Shulaw
> 454 County Road 33
> Bluffton, OH. 45817
> USA
> 
> 
>                         
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com  Mon Apr  8 13:56:27 2013
From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 20:56:27 +0000
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 109, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <9D5BFA04-F263-4B3E-A6ED-71548D39E4C3@mac.com>
References: <mailman.2.1365436801.23080.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>,
	<BLU172-W1161697633A938DF420AADBC50@phx.gbl>,
	<9D5BFA04-F263-4B3E-A6ED-71548D39E4C3@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BAY172-W2B8D292EA78ED038C08DFD0C50@phx.gbl>

The British remember her for selling off all our nationally owned utilities at the behest of the Rothschilds . We are now at the mercy of global companies.

> From: jneth3 at mac.com
> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 14:33:45 -0400
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 109, Issue 3
> 
> RR and the Iron Lady were the right people at the right time and right place in History.  Let us hope their legacy will live on.  Hats off to a wonderful Lady.
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Steve Webre <swebre at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Here!  Here! 
> > 
> > -Steve- 
> > 
> > 
> > Condolences to our British Allies on the loss of a Great Leader 
> > Margaret Thatcher, One of the last of the Great Cold War Allied leaders.
> > 
> > Mark Shulaw
> > 454 County Road 33
> > Bluffton, OH. 45817
> > USA
> > 
> > 
> >                         
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From russell at ncable.com.au  Mon Apr  8 14:12:31 2013
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 07:12:31 +1000
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 109, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <BAY172-W2B8D292EA78ED038C08DFD0C50@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.2.1365436801.23080.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>,
	<BLU172-W1161697633A938DF420AADBC50@phx.gbl>,
	<9D5BFA04-F263-4B3E-A6ED-71548D39E4C3@mac.com>
	<BAY172-W2B8D292EA78ED038C08DFD0C50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9FADAAE9-4167-4C83-8A47-6ACE409205D4@ncable.com.au>

John she must have stopped by here during her time as well!



On 09/04/2013, at 6:56 AM, john palmer wrote:

> The British remember her for selling off all our nationally owned utilities at the behest of the Rothschilds . We are now at the mercy of global companies.
> 
>> From: jneth3 at mac.com
>> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 14:33:45 -0400
>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 109, Issue 3
>> 
>> RR and the Iron Lady were the right people at the right time and right place in History.  Let us hope their legacy will live on.  Hats off to a wonderful Lady.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Steve Webre <swebre at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Here!  Here! 
>>> 
>>> -Steve- 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Condolences to our British Allies on the loss of a Great Leader 
>>> Margaret Thatcher, One of the last of the Great Cold War Allied leaders.
>>> 
>>> Mark Shulaw
>>> 454 County Road 33
>>> Bluffton, OH. 45817
>>> USA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 		 	   		  
> _______________________________________________
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From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com  Tue Apr  9 00:11:03 2013
From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 07:11:03 +0000
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 109, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <9FADAAE9-4167-4C83-8A47-6ACE409205D4@ncable.com.au>
References: <mailman.2.1365436801.23080.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>, ,
	<BLU172-W1161697633A938DF420AADBC50@phx.gbl>, ,
	<9D5BFA04-F263-4B3E-A6ED-71548D39E4C3@mac.com>,
	<BAY172-W2B8D292EA78ED038C08DFD0C50@phx.gbl>,
	<9FADAAE9-4167-4C83-8A47-6ACE409205D4@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <BAY172-W48B351549584A1D803B8EDD0C60@phx.gbl>

Hello Russell,global conspiracy? Lost your industry as well?

> From: russell at ncable.com.au
> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 07:12:31 +1000
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 109, Issue 3
> 
> John she must have stopped by here during her time as well!
> 
> 
> 
> On 09/04/2013, at 6:56 AM, john palmer wrote:
> 
> > The British remember her for selling off all our nationally owned utilities at the behest of the Rothschilds . We are now at the mercy of global companies.
> > 
> >> From: jneth3 at mac.com
> >> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 14:33:45 -0400
> >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >> Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 109, Issue 3
> >> 
> >> RR and the Iron Lady were the right people at the right time and right place in History.  Let us hope their legacy will live on.  Hats off to a wonderful Lady.
> >> 
> >> John
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >> On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Steve Webre <swebre at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Here!  Here! 
> >>> 
> >>> -Steve- 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Condolences to our British Allies on the loss of a Great Leader 
> >>> Margaret Thatcher, One of the last of the Great Cold War Allied leaders.
> >>> 
> >>> Mark Shulaw
> >>> 454 County Road 33
> >>> Bluffton, OH. 45817
> >>> USA
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> SEL mailing list
> >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> >> 
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> SEL mailing list
> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> > 		 	   		  
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Apr 12 03:00:15 2013
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:00:15 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
Message-ID: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC>

Hi Guys

Who is going to the National?
If I can get away from work, being the only the person at the hospital and on call 24/7, I will leave at lunch time Friday. Google maps say 8 hours 15 minutes but probably only 7 1/2 hours.
Looking for somewhere to camp, probably in the back of my car, what is everyone doing. I will only be there for the Saturday and head back home Sunday. ;-((
What is happening Saturday night, where will Steve and Arnie be ??

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia


From ozengine at iinet.net.au  Fri Apr 12 03:25:26 2013
From: ozengine at iinet.net.au (Kerry)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:25:26 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
In-Reply-To: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC>
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au>

G'Day Peter
The two lost Yanks will be camping with me in the camping area on site.
Saturday night will be a camp oven cook up so we will be there with Beers

Kerry


On 12/04/2013 8:00 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> Who is going to the National?
> If I can get away from work, being the only the person at the hospital and on call 24/7, I will leave at lunch time Friday. Google maps say 8 hours 15 minutes but probably only 7 1/2 hours.
> Looking for somewhere to camp, probably in the back of my car, what is everyone doing. I will only be there for the Saturday and head back home Sunday. ;-((
> What is happening Saturday night, where will Steve and Arnie be ??
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> _

-- 
Kerry Morris
Tangye Engine Registrar
0400421133
Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/



From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Apr 12 05:02:18 2013
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 22:02:18 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
Message-ID: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>

Hi Guys
What is the best US source for piston rings.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia

From mr at carolina.rr.com  Fri Apr 12 14:37:59 2013
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:37:59 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
In-Reply-To: <5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au>
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC>
	<5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <D016DC398EBE4111B0F629F6401AF08A@RoysterPC>

Pictures, take lots of pictures!!!!!

MR

-----Original Message----- 
From: Kerry
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:25 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Aussie National Rally

G'Day Peter
The two lost Yanks will be camping with me in the camping area on site.
Saturday night will be a camp oven cook up so we will be there with Beers

Kerry


On 12/04/2013 8:00 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> Who is going to the National?
> If I can get away from work, being the only the person at the hospital and 
> on call 24/7, I will leave at lunch time Friday. Google maps say 8 hours 
> 15 minutes but probably only 7 1/2 hours.
> Looking for somewhere to camp, probably in the back of my car, what is 
> everyone doing. I will only be there for the Saturday and head back home 
> Sunday. ;-((
> What is happening Saturday night, where will Steve and Arnie be ??
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> _

-- 
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Tangye Engine Registrar
0400421133
Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/

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From al.harris at rustic-engines.com  Fri Apr 12 14:56:58 2013
From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 07:56:58 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <5168832A.2030502@rustic-engines.com>

Why go OS Pete?

I get mine from SA,

Al


On 12/04/2013 10:02 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
> Hi Guys
> What is the best US source for piston rings.
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From russell at ncable.com.au  Fri Apr 12 15:18:44 2013
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 08:18:44 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
In-Reply-To: <D016DC398EBE4111B0F629F6401AF08A@RoysterPC>
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC>
	<5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au>
	<D016DC398EBE4111B0F629F6401AF08A@RoysterPC>
Message-ID: <45EE5FAF-2599-490D-8600-7B47E50D8B26@ncable.com.au>

Mike it's a shame you could not make it. The other boys will have to play hard to make up for your absents.



On 13/04/2013, at 7:37 AM, Mike Royster wrote:

> Pictures, take lots of pictures!!!!!
> 
> MR
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Kerry
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:25 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
> 
> G'Day Peter
> The two lost Yanks will be camping with me in the camping area on site.
> Saturday night will be a camp oven cook up so we will be there with Beers
> 
> Kerry
> 
> 
> On 12/04/2013 8:00 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>> Hi Guys
>> 
>> Who is going to the National?
>> If I can get away from work, being the only the person at the hospital and 
>> on call 24/7, I will leave at lunch time Friday. Google maps say 8 hours 
>> 15 minutes but probably only 7 1/2 hours.
>> Looking for somewhere to camp, probably in the back of my car, what is 
>> everyone doing. I will only be there for the Saturday and head back home 
>> Sunday. ;-((
>> What is happening Saturday night, where will Steve and Arnie be ??
>> 
>> Regards
>> Peter Lowe
>> R&V Engine Registrar
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>> Australia
>> _
> 
> -- 
> Kerry Morris
> Tangye Engine Registrar
> 0400421133
> Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 
> 
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From bst41474 at bigpond.net.au  Fri Apr 12 15:55:46 2013
From: bst41474 at bigpond.net.au (Barry & Tanya Stait)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 08:55:46 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
In-Reply-To: <5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au>
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC>
	<5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <6794931C2DB246B88F8ADCC8DD00461E@Stait>

G'Day all,
National Rally is looking to be a very big event. There is over 1000 
regersted exhibitors and 740 booked for the dinner on Saturday night. People 
are turning up already to camp. Spent last Sunday putting up about 2km of 
fence. Glad that we don't have to fence off the display tractors.
All in all its looking like a huge rally.

Barry & Tanya Stait.
Mudgee. NSW.
bst41474 at bigpond.net.au.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry" <ozengine at iinet.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Aussie National Rally


> G'Day Peter
> The two lost Yanks will be camping with me in the camping area on site.
> Saturday night will be a camp oven cook up so we will be there with Beers
>
> Kerry
>
>
> On 12/04/2013 8:00 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>> Hi Guys
>>
>> Who is going to the National?
>> If I can get away from work, being the only the person at the hospital 
>> and on call 24/7, I will leave at lunch time Friday. Google maps say 8 
>> hours 15 minutes but probably only 7 1/2 hours.
>> Looking for somewhere to camp, probably in the back of my car, what is 
>> everyone doing. I will only be there for the Saturday and head back home 
>> Sunday. ;-((
>> What is happening Saturday night, where will Steve and Arnie be ??
>>
>> Regards
>> Peter Lowe
>> R&V Engine Registrar
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>> Australia
>> _
>
> -- 
> Kerry Morris
> Tangye Engine Registrar
> 0400421133
> Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
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From rotigel at me.com  Fri Apr 12 15:58:48 2013
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 18:58:48 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>

For what kind of engine Peter? Or at least tell us what size.
	Dave
PS, The black ones from SA do not work!

On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:

> Hi Guys
> What is the best US source for piston rings.
> 
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From al.harris at rustic-engines.com  Fri Apr 12 16:19:35 2013
From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 09:19:35 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
	<49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
Message-ID: <51689687.9060109@rustic-engines.com>

Mine weren't black mate...and they are still all working. :-P

JP Pistons can source almost anything Pete.

> http://www.jp.com.au/JPPistons.html

Al

ps: look for a 2HP Sunshine at Mudgee :-)



On 13/04/2013 8:58 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote:
> For what kind of engine Peter? Or at least tell us what size.
> 	Dave
> PS, The black ones from SA do not work!
>
> On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys
>> What is the best US source for piston rings.
>>
>> Regards
>> Peter Lowe
>> R&V Engine Registrar
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>> Australia
>>



From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Apr 12 16:22:31 2013
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 09:22:31 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
	<49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
Message-ID: <3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>

Well Dave, seeing they are for a Stationary Engine, it does not matter if it 
works or not ;-))

Al, they are for an R&V guy in the USA.
5.25 + 10 thousand over .25 wide rings. Piston groove is 3/16.
I am just passing on suppliers to him.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia


For what kind of engine Peter? Or at least tell us what size.
Dave
PS, The black ones from SA do not work!

On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:

> Hi Guys
> What is the best US source for piston rings.
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> _______________________________________________
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From al.harris at rustic-engines.com  Fri Apr 12 16:26:23 2013
From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 09:26:23 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
In-Reply-To: <6794931C2DB246B88F8ADCC8DD00461E@Stait>
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC>
	<5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au>
	<6794931C2DB246B88F8ADCC8DD00461E@Stait>
Message-ID: <5168981F.5030008@rustic-engines.com>

Here's hoping the weather is better than Allora Barry. It's horrid here 
on the North Coast ATM.

Fingers crossed,

Al


On 13/04/2013 8:55 AM, Barry & Tanya Stait wrote:
> G'Day all,
> National Rally is looking to be a very big event. There is over 1000
> regersted exhibitors and 740 booked for the dinner on Saturday night. People
> are turning up already to camp. Spent last Sunday putting up about 2km of
> fence. Glad that we don't have to fence off the display tractors.
> All in all its looking like a huge rally.
>
> Barry & Tanya Stait.
> Mudgee. NSW.
> bst41474 at bigpond.net.au.
>
>



From rotigel at me.com  Fri Apr 12 16:30:38 2013
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:30:38 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
	<49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
	<3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <0131167F-573C-4203-9E4C-7E28357E99F1@me.com>

Are you looking for rings for a MAYTAG, or your Bentley?
	Dave

On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:

> Well Dave, seeing they are for a Stationary Engine, it does not matter if it 
> works or not ;-))
> 
> Al, they are for an R&V guy in the USA.
> 5.25 + 10 thousand over .25 wide rings. Piston groove is 3/16.
> I am just passing on suppliers to him.
> 
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> 
> 
> For what kind of engine Peter? Or at least tell us what size.
> Dave
> PS, The black ones from SA do not work!
> 
> On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:
> 
>> Hi Guys
>> What is the best US source for piston rings.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Peter Lowe
>> R&V Engine Registrar
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>> Australia
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 
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From al.harris at rustic-engines.com  Fri Apr 12 16:56:12 2013
From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 09:56:12 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
	<49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
	<3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <51689F1C.7060200@rustic-engines.com>

Fair enough Peter.

Go another mile and get them from JP and post them to him. ;-)

You can't go too far for an R&V bloke eh?

Al


On 13/04/2013 9:22 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:
> Well Dave, seeing they are for a Stationary Engine, it does not matter if it
> works or not ;-))
>
> Al, they are for an R&V guy in the USA.
> 5.25 + 10 thousand over .25 wide rings. Piston groove is 3/16.
> I am just passing on suppliers to him.
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
>
>
> For what kind of engine Peter? Or at least tell us what size.
> Dave
> PS, The black ones from SA do not work!
>
> On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys
>> What is the best US source for piston rings.
>>
>> Regards
>> Peter Lowe
>> R&V Engine Registrar
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>> Australia
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
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>



From rotigel at me.com  Fri Apr 12 17:07:25 2013
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:07:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
	<49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
	<3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <A0C833B4-AE09-46B7-9311-1B3DE2253643@me.com>

Hi Peter, Good luck putting .25 wide rings into a 3/16 groove!
	Dave
PS, You most be a LIBERAL?

On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:

> Well Dave, seeing they are for a Stationary Engine, it does not matter if it 
> works or not ;-))
> 
> Al, they are for an R&V guy in the USA.
> 5.25 + 10 thousand over .25 wide rings. Piston groove is 3/16.
> I am just passing on suppliers to him.
> 
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> 
> 
> For what kind of engine Peter? Or at least tell us what size.
> Dave
> PS, The black ones from SA do not work!
> 
> On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:
> 
>> Hi Guys
>> What is the best US source for piston rings.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Peter Lowe
>> R&V Engine Registrar
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>> Australia
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Apr 12 17:17:29 2013
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:17:29 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
In-Reply-To: <5168981F.5030008@rustic-engines.com>
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC><5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au><6794931C2DB246B88F8ADCC8DD00461E@Stait>
	<5168981F.5030008@rustic-engines.com>
Message-ID: <36232537FDA740C28995B878B91556BE@PeterPC>

Pouring rain here again with more local flooding predicted.
So wet here since the floods a few months ago that it is affecting the local 
economy.
Peter

Here's hoping the weather is better than Allora Barry. It's horrid here
on the North Coast ATM.

Fingers crossed,

Al


On 13/04/2013 8:55 AM, Barry & Tanya Stait wrote:
> G'Day all,
> National Rally is looking to be a very big event. There is over 1000
> regersted exhibitors and 740 booked for the dinner on Saturday night. 
> People
> are turning up already to camp. Spent last Sunday putting up about 2km of
> fence. Glad that we don't have to fence off the display tractors.
> All in all its looking like a huge rally.
>
> Barry & Tanya Stait.
> Mudgee. NSW.
> bst41474 at bigpond.net.au.
>
>

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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Apr 12 17:19:11 2013
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:19:11 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <0131167F-573C-4203-9E4C-7E28357E99F1@me.com>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC><49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com><3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
	<0131167F-573C-4203-9E4C-7E28357E99F1@me.com>
Message-ID: <F5EC55D39ACF4B7FA688E31CA8939F17@PeterPC>

Dave, the Bentley is ticking like a clock and as you well know, Maytags 
never wear our rings :-)



Are you looking for rings for a MAYTAG, or your Bentley?
Dave

On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:





From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Apr 12 17:23:43 2013
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:23:43 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <A0C833B4-AE09-46B7-9311-1B3DE2253643@me.com>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC><49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com><3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
	<A0C833B4-AE09-46B7-9311-1B3DE2253643@me.com>
Message-ID: <D4EF3E1516FF4C69BE520E60435D28E9@PeterPC>

Think he meant groove depth DAVE, but he can chase these himself I am just 
passing on a supplier.
I spend a lot of time chasing parts for R&V members but that goes with the 
job of register custodian I guess.
I now have 1036 surviving engines on the register.
Pete



Hi Peter, Good luck putting .25 wide rings into a 3/16 groove!
Dave
PS, You most be a LIBERAL?

On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:

> Well Dave, seeing they are for a Stationary Engine, it does not matter if 
> it
> works or not ;-))
>
> Al, they are for an R&V guy in the USA.
> 5.25 + 10 thousand over .25 wide rings. Piston groove is 3/16.
> I am just passing on suppliers to him.
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
>
>
> For what kind of engine Peter? Or at least tell us what size.
> Dave
> PS, The black ones from SA do not work!
>
> On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys
>> What is the best US source for piston rings.
>>
>> Regards
>> Peter Lowe
>> R&V Engine Registrar
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>> Australia
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
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From 1oldengin at gmail.com  Fri Apr 12 17:29:11 2013
From: 1oldengin at gmail.com (Leroy Clark)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:29:11 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <A0C833B4-AE09-46B7-9311-1B3DE2253643@me.com>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
	<49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
	<3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
	<A0C833B4-AE09-46B7-9311-1B3DE2253643@me.com>
Message-ID: <CA+B8urRDf=MeDzZfnfMYW455VXPb57jC2iWYSULCNiNoH2Rsqg@mail.gmail.com>

Metric Dave.... leroy
On Apr 12, 2013 8:18 PM, "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com> wrote:

> Hi Peter, Good luck putting .25 wide rings into a 3/16 groove!
>         Dave
> PS, You most be a LIBERAL?
>
> On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>
> > Well Dave, seeing they are for a Stationary Engine, it does not matter
> if it
> > works or not ;-))
> >
> > Al, they are for an R&V guy in the USA.
> > 5.25 + 10 thousand over .25 wide rings. Piston groove is 3/16.
> > I am just passing on suppliers to him.
> >
> > Regards
> > Peter Lowe
> > R&V Engine Registrar
> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> > Australia
> >
> >
> > For what kind of engine Peter? Or at least tell us what size.
> > Dave
> > PS, The black ones from SA do not work!
> >
> > On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Guys
> >> What is the best US source for piston rings.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Peter Lowe
> >> R&V Engine Registrar
> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> >> Australia
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> SEL mailing list
> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> >
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From rotigel at me.com  Fri Apr 12 17:35:41 2013
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:35:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <F5EC55D39ACF4B7FA688E31CA8939F17@PeterPC>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
	<49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
	<3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
	<0131167F-573C-4203-9E4C-7E28357E99F1@me.com>
	<F5EC55D39ACF4B7FA688E31CA8939F17@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <8E8CE704-C188-4FC6-BBD7-FEB050D9BF01@me.com>

I knew that--and know why!
	Dave

On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>  Maytags 
> never wear our rings :-)
> 



From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Fri Apr 12 17:45:28 2013
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:45:28 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <CA+B8urRDf=MeDzZfnfMYW455VXPb57jC2iWYSULCNiNoH2Rsqg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
	<49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
	<3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
	<A0C833B4-AE09-46B7-9311-1B3DE2253643@me.com>
	<CA+B8urRDf=MeDzZfnfMYW455VXPb57jC2iWYSULCNiNoH2Rsqg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9EFB831A-8FC7-4DEF-8AB5-51667829E9BC@gmail.com>

Dave is still measuring in cubits.
Patrick

Sent from my iPhone

On 13/04/2013, at 10:29, Leroy Clark <1oldengin at gmail.com> wrote:

> Metric Dave.... leroy
> On Apr 12, 2013 8:18 PM, "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Peter, Good luck putting .25 wide rings into a 3/16 groove!
>>        Dave
>> PS, You most be a LIBERAL?
>> 


From rotigel at me.com  Fri Apr 12 18:20:27 2013
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 21:20:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
In-Reply-To: <9EFB831A-8FC7-4DEF-8AB5-51667829E9BC@gmail.com>
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC>
	<49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
	<3CB873C7FB26429C825E3309E3E314AF@PeterPC>
	<A0C833B4-AE09-46B7-9311-1B3DE2253643@me.com>
	<CA+B8urRDf=MeDzZfnfMYW455VXPb57jC2iWYSULCNiNoH2Rsqg@mail.gmail.com>
	<9EFB831A-8FC7-4DEF-8AB5-51667829E9BC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <860E1B0A-9326-4B94-90CE-852BC33FA78F@me.com>

Hi Patrick, Do you know the definition of a cubit? We all know that you will have to look it up, so go to it!
	Dave
PS, If you didn't have to look it up please don't respond. If you are so dumb that you had to look it up please respond so that we will all know. THANKS!
PPS, Anyone else who is so dumb that you had to look it up please also respond.
PPPS, Those from NZ need not respond--we all know about you!
PPPPS, Love and KISSES!

On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Patrick Livingstone wrote:

> Dave is still measuring in cubits.
> Patrick
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 13/04/2013, at 10:29, Leroy Clark <1oldengin at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Metric Dave.... leroy
>> On Apr 12, 2013 8:18 PM, "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Peter, Good luck putting .25 wide rings into a 3/16 groove!
>>>       Dave
>>> PS, You most be a LIBERAL?
>>> 
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Sat Apr 13 07:10:23 2013
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:10:23 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
In-Reply-To: <45EE5FAF-2599-490D-8600-7B47E50D8B26@ncable.com.au>
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC><5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au><D016DC398EBE4111B0F629F6401AF08A@RoysterPC>
	<45EE5FAF-2599-490D-8600-7B47E50D8B26@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <08936594682F4215A575F7CC8BD168B1@RoysterPC>

True, but knowing that you are there to guide them gives me peace of mind 
you will aid them in the great adventure down under!  I don't think Arnie 
has ever been in an Aussie jail, but I know he needs to experience it!

MR

-----Original Message----- 
From: Russell
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:18 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Aussie National Rally

Mike it's a shame you could not make it. The other boys will have to play 
hard to make up for your absents.



On 13/04/2013, at 7:37 AM, Mike Royster wrote:

> Pictures, take lots of pictures!!!!!
>
> MR
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Kerry
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:25 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
>
> G'Day Peter
> The two lost Yanks will be camping with me in the camping area on site.
> Saturday night will be a camp oven cook up so we will be there with Beers
>
> Kerry
>
>
> On 12/04/2013 8:00 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>> Hi Guys
>>
>> Who is going to the National?
>> If I can get away from work, being the only the person at the hospital 
>> and
>> on call 24/7, I will leave at lunch time Friday. Google maps say 8 hours
>> 15 minutes but probably only 7 1/2 hours.
>> Looking for somewhere to camp, probably in the back of my car, what is
>> everyone doing. I will only be there for the Saturday and head back home
>> Sunday. ;-((
>> What is happening Saturday night, where will Steve and Arnie be ??
>>
>> Regards
>> Peter Lowe
>> R&V Engine Registrar
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>> Australia
>> _
>
> -- 
> Kerry Morris
> Tangye Engine Registrar
> 0400421133
> Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
>
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From russell at ncable.com.au  Sat Apr 13 13:34:46 2013
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 06:34:46 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
In-Reply-To: <08936594682F4215A575F7CC8BD168B1@RoysterPC>
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC><5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au><D016DC398EBE4111B0F629F6401AF08A@RoysterPC>
	<45EE5FAF-2599-490D-8600-7B47E50D8B26@ncable.com.au>
	<08936594682F4215A575F7CC8BD168B1@RoysterPC>
Message-ID: <B85B3C18-6A70-4744-8213-2C7F7DF4A04A@ncable.com.au>

Mike I recon theres a nice Cell in Lightgow waiting for him !



On 14/04/2013, at 12:10 AM, Mike Royster wrote:

> True, but knowing that you are there to guide them gives me peace of mind 
> you will aid them in the great adventure down under!  I don't think Arnie 
> has ever been in an Aussie jail, but I know he needs to experience it!
> 
> MR
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Russell
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:18 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
> 
> Mike it's a shame you could not make it. The other boys will have to play 
> hard to make up for your absents.
> 
> 
> 
> On 13/04/2013, at 7:37 AM, Mike Royster wrote:
> 
>> Pictures, take lots of pictures!!!!!
>> 
>> MR
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Kerry
>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:25 AM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
>> 
>> G'Day Peter
>> The two lost Yanks will be camping with me in the camping area on site.
>> Saturday night will be a camp oven cook up so we will be there with Beers
>> 
>> Kerry
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/04/2013 8:00 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>>> Hi Guys
>>> 
>>> Who is going to the National?
>>> If I can get away from work, being the only the person at the hospital 
>>> and
>>> on call 24/7, I will leave at lunch time Friday. Google maps say 8 hours
>>> 15 minutes but probably only 7 1/2 hours.
>>> Looking for somewhere to camp, probably in the back of my car, what is
>>> everyone doing. I will only be there for the Saturday and head back home
>>> Sunday. ;-((
>>> What is happening Saturday night, where will Steve and Arnie be ??
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Peter Lowe
>>> R&V Engine Registrar
>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>>> Australia
>>> _
>> 
>> -- 
>> Kerry Morris
>> Tangye Engine Registrar
>> 0400421133
>> Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> 
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From ozengine at iinet.net.au  Sat Apr 13 13:42:51 2013
From: ozengine at iinet.net.au (Kerry)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 06:42:51 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
In-Reply-To: <B85B3C18-6A70-4744-8213-2C7F7DF4A04A@ncable.com.au>
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC><5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au><D016DC398EBE4111B0F629F6401AF08A@RoysterPC>
	<45EE5FAF-2599-490D-8600-7B47E50D8B26@ncable.com.au>
	<08936594682F4215A575F7CC8BD168B1@RoysterPC>
	<B85B3C18-6A70-4744-8213-2C7F7DF4A04A@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <5169C34B.3090504@iinet.net.au>

Oh dear I have to live here, one problem will be Tuesday night when your 
here Russell, Make sure you organise some ice, you have had two years 
you know.

Kerry


On 14/04/2013 6:34 AM, Russell wrote:
> Mike I recon theres a nice Cell in Lightgow waiting for him !
>
>
>
> On 14/04/2013, at 12:10 AM, Mike Royster wrote:
>
>> True, but knowing that you are there to guide them gives me peace of mind
>> you will aid them in the great adventure down under!  I don't think Arnie
>> has ever been in an Aussie jail, but I know he needs to experience it!
>>
>>

-- 
Kerry Morris
Tangye Engine Registrar
0400421133
Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/



From rotigel at me.com  Sat Apr 13 15:31:51 2013
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 18:31:51 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
In-Reply-To: <B85B3C18-6A70-4744-8213-2C7F7DF4A04A@ncable.com.au>
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC>
	<5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au>
	<D016DC398EBE4111B0F629F6401AF08A@RoysterPC>
	<45EE5FAF-2599-490D-8600-7B47E50D8B26@ncable.com.au>
	<08936594682F4215A575F7CC8BD168B1@RoysterPC>
	<B85B3C18-6A70-4744-8213-2C7F7DF4A04A@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <39CB49E6-C124-4B87-9A8E-DF56F24963EA@me.com>

Hi Russ, If bail is necessary I KNOW that Arnie is good for a loan for the full amount.
	Dave
PS, If you need to know HOW I know this please contact me off list

On Apr 13, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Russell wrote:

> Mike I recon theres a nice Cell in Lightgow waiting for him !
> 
> 
> 
> On 14/04/2013, at 12:10 AM, Mike Royster wrote:
> 
>> True, but knowing that you are there to guide them gives me peace of mind 
>> you will aid them in the great adventure down under!  I don't think Arnie 
>> has ever been in an Aussie jail, but I know he needs to experience it!
>> 
>> MR
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Russell
>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:18 PM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
>> 
>> Mike it's a shame you could not make it. The other boys will have to play 
>> hard to make up for your absents.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 13/04/2013, at 7:37 AM, Mike Royster wrote:
>> 
>>> Pictures, take lots of pictures!!!!!
>>> 
>>> MR
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Kerry
>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:25 AM
>>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
>>> 
>>> G'Day Peter
>>> The two lost Yanks will be camping with me in the camping area on site.
>>> Saturday night will be a camp oven cook up so we will be there with Beers
>>> 
>>> Kerry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/04/2013 8:00 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>>>> Hi Guys
>>>> 
>>>> Who is going to the National?
>>>> If I can get away from work, being the only the person at the hospital 
>>>> and
>>>> on call 24/7, I will leave at lunch time Friday. Google maps say 8 hours
>>>> 15 minutes but probably only 7 1/2 hours.
>>>> Looking for somewhere to camp, probably in the back of my car, what is
>>>> everyone doing. I will only be there for the Saturday and head back home
>>>> Sunday. ;-((
>>>> What is happening Saturday night, where will Steve and Arnie be ??
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> Peter Lowe
>>>> R&V Engine Registrar
>>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>>>> Australia
>>>> _
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Kerry Morris
>>> Tangye Engine Registrar
>>> 0400421133
>>> Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sat Apr 13 16:10:19 2013
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:10:19 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aussie National Rally
References: <4C56E21DEA924858A14125181C446254@PeterPC><5167E116.8040900@iinet.net.au><D016DC398EBE4111B0F629F6401AF08A@RoysterPC><45EE5FAF-2599-490D-8600-7B47E50D8B26@ncable.com.au><08936594682F4215A575F7CC8BD168B1@RoysterPC><B85B3C18-6A70-4744-8213-2C7F7DF4A04A@ncable.com.au>
	<5169C34B.3090504@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <E430E7C84F794C23BE8C1B9FDB90527F@regpc>

Years  back, they used to say, "There are two things in Lithgow worth 
seeing. The grass growing in the cemetary and the waitress in the Chinese 
restaurant!"
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry" <ozengine at iinet.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Aussie National Rally


> Oh dear I have to live here, one problem will be Tuesday night when your
> here Russell, Make sure you organise some ice, you have had two years
> you know.
>
> Kerry
>
>
> On 14/04/2013 6:34 AM, Russell wrote:
>> Mike I recon theres a nice Cell in Lightgow waiting for him !
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14/04/2013, at 12:10 AM, Mike Royster wrote:
>>
>>> True, but knowing that you are there to guide them gives me peace of 
>>> mind
>>> you will aid them in the great adventure down under!  I don't think 
>>> Arnie
>>> has ever been in an Aussie jail, but I know he needs to experience it!
>>>
>>>
>
> -- 
> Kerry Morris
> Tangye Engine Registrar
> 0400421133
> Web Page.   www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From rustyiron1 at bigpond.com  Sat Apr 13 17:36:34 2013
From: rustyiron1 at bigpond.com (Andy Nicholson)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 10:36:34 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Piston rings
References: <AC6E8CE318104BCDA6077C12E98F4188@PeterPC><49C38E60-3F2A-400C-8C66-79667FF9F295@me.com>
	<51689687.9060109@rustic-engines.com>
Message-ID: <97FB322D5D3C438BB355555048A5086E@owner916e4fa44>

Hi Peter, I've used rings from this bloke in S.A. 
Easy to talk to and not a bad price.
Andy
Brandon Qld

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Harris" <al.harris at rustic-engines.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Piston rings


> Mine weren't black mate...and they are still all working. :-P
> 
> JP Pistons can source almost anything Pete.
> 
>> http://www.jp.com.au/JPPistons.html
> 
> Al
> 
> ps: look for a 2HP Sunshine at Mudgee :-)
> 
> 
> 
> On 13/04/2013 8:58 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote:
>> For what kind of engine Peter? Or at least tell us what size.
>> Dave
>> PS, The black ones from SA do not work!
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Guys
>>> What is the best US source for piston rings.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Peter Lowe
>>> R&V Engine Registrar
>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>>> Australia
>>>
> 
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From Germoamer at aol.com  Sun Apr 21 07:18:27 2013
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:18:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] engine auction
Message-ID: <e2464.24097b7d.3ea54f33@aol.com>

http://www.auctionzip.com/cgi-bin/auctionview.cgi?lid=1674711
 
Nice auction coming up  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord, Va.  
germoamer at aol.com


From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sun Apr 21 19:33:34 2013
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 19:33:34 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Fun with engines
Message-ID: <20130421.193427.1565.34299@mailpop10.vgs.untd.com>

Hi all.  Went to a small steam up/ engine show today.  I think a lot of
you will guess who the host was.  First time using tinyurl, hope it works

http://tinyurl.com/d8sev89 


Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
____________________________________________________________
How to Sleep Like a Rock
Obey this one natural trick to fall asleep and stay asleep all night.
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5174a1c6b9d6721c658b2st03vuc

From plowe at exemail.com.au  Mon Apr 22 04:36:38 2013
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:36:38 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons
Message-ID: <0DB956429BD04200BBFAE6BE4D191858@PeterPC>

Do we have any members who have a web site that shows the steps for machining blank pistons and making rings?


Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia

From Germoamer at aol.com  Mon Apr 22 04:41:51 2013
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:41:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Fun with engines
Message-ID: <6fae5.59ff4596.3ea67bff@aol.com>



 
In a message dated 4/21/2013 10:37:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rdhaskell at juno.com writes:

Went to a small steam up/ engine show today. 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------
 
Great bunch of engines!
 
Thanks,
 


 
Tom  Schmutz
Concord, Va. 
germoamer at aol.com

From edstoller at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 22 05:53:25 2013
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed Stoller)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 08:53:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons
References: <0DB956429BD04200BBFAE6BE4D191858@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <B08E3E24D677457A8807BEBD7A6D2F2E@edlaptop>

How about this. 
D:\EDS2010\Blacksmith_Mch\TurningPiston_files\TurningPiston.htm.  I think I 
lost the link for it.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield,  CT,   USA
www.enginesandmagnets.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine.org" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 7:36 AM
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons


> Do we have any members who have a web site that shows the steps for 
> machining blank pistons and making rings?
>
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
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> 
-------------- next part --------------
  Piston machining sequence for the 1 1/2HP (3-1/4" bore) Herc/Econ piston
                                  castings

                  Click on thumbnails to see larger images

   Step #1. Using a grinder remove the core flashing from the inside
   bottom edge of the piston skirt.

   Step #2, mount a 4 jaw chuck in your lathe and loosely chuck up the
   piston blank. Rough center the ID of the skirt using a large cone
   center in the tail stock.

   Step #3, fabricate an "L" shaped piece from 5/16" or 3/8" round stock.
   The leg on the "L" should be about an  1" to an 1 1/4 long. This will
   be used to indicate the inside of the casting up behind the bosses, in
   the ring groove area. Hold the "L" tool in a tool holder in the
   carriage.

    [1] [P3230001_small.jpg] Here the 4 jaw chuck is seen holding the
   piston casting. Leave about a 1/2" of space between the chuck jaws and
   the edge of the casting (for later step).

   Step #4, run the carriage & tool into the area between the top of the
   boss and underside of the crown, being sure to avoid the rib over the
   boss. At this point it is a matter of running the carriage out until
   you hear the tool just make contact with the inside of the casting
   (lathe in neutral rocking the chuck). Run the carriage in (so not to
   hit the rib with the "L" tool) and rotate the chuck 180??. Run the
   carriage back out until you just hear contact. Make adjustments to the
   chuck jaws until that set of jaws is within a few thou of being
   centered. Do the exact same with the other set of jaws.

   Step #5, bring the carriage out to the skirt area of the piston about
   3/4" in. Repeat Step #4 , but instead of moving the chuck jaws just tap
   the piston to get this area "dialed" in.

   Step #6, repeat Step #4 until the ID of the piston under the ring
   groove area is running concentric within a few thou. These first steps
   will be time consuming but ultimately will assure your cast part is not
   ruined due to an off center core. This is the nature of casting. Cores
   will always be off center from the pattern due to the huge floating
   loads imposed by the combination of dense molten metal and light core
   sand. I've seen the cores rise as little as .025 and as much as .180
   off center. The patterns are correct, but core float is simply a fact
   of foundry work. It is the hobbyist's responsibility to "dial" the ID
   in true to prevent cut thru by the ring grooves. Credit will not be
   issued for ring grooves that are cut thru that are the result of
   failure to "dial" in the ID of the core area.
     __________________________________________________________________


   [2][P3230002_small.jpg] Here the OD has been rough turned just to make
   the cast surface smooth.

   Step #7 is to turn the bottom edge of the skirt to be exactly 4" away
   from the crown. You can see the scale used to determine the 4" mark.
   Make sure your scale is on the bottom of the flat crown and not on the
   rib under the crown or in the radius transitioning to the rib. A scaled
   4" like you see here is good enough.
     __________________________________________________________________

   [3][P3230004_small.jpg] Turning the inside diameter of the skirt.

   Step #8 is to bore the ID of the skirt ring to 2.875 diameter.
     __________________________________________________________________

   [4][P3230005_small.jpg] The chamfer is being turned to provide for
   clearance for the swing of the connecting rod.

   Step #9 is to add the 1/8" x 45?? chamfer.
     __________________________________________________________________

   [5][P3230007_small.jpg] The piston has been turned to the final
   diameter. (.003 less than the bore of the engine)

   Step #10, turn the OD of the piston to the final diameter. Do not turn
   the diameter steps that compensate for crown swell. That will be done
   later. In this step the entire length of the piston will be turned to
   the correct clearance for the bore at the skirt diameter. See the chart
   for the correct skirt clearance.
     __________________________________________________________________

   [6][P3230003_small.jpg] Establishing the top of the piston.

   Step #11, touching off the right side (bottom of skirt), and accounting
   for parting tool width, bring the tool over to make the piston over all
   length 4.234". Bring the parting tool in at least a 1/2" to establish
   the top of the piston. Don't cut into the chucking button yet.
     __________________________________________________________________

   [7][P3230008_small.jpg] The 3 ring grooves are being turned. The are to
   be cut 5/32 deep (.156). Piston rings are to be .125 thick.

   Step #12, is cutting the piston ring grooves. Using a parting tool (.20
   wide) touch the right side of the piston (bottom of skirt) and set your
   DRO. Bring the carriage left until the 3.875 mark. This is the location
   of the left side of the top ring groove. Turn slow and plunge carefully
   and slowly to cut the first ring groove. Zero your DRO just as you
   touch the surface and go in .156 per side. (.3125 diameter read out)

   Now move the tool right to the 3.437 location and cut the second ring
   groove.

   And finally move the tool right to the 3.000 location and cut the
   bottom ring groove.
     __________________________________________________________________

   (No picture)

   Step #13, consulting the chart, cut the ring land between the oil ring
   and the middle ring (-.007 less than diameter of skirt)

   Then cut the ring land between the middle ring and the top ring (-.009
   less than diameter of skirt)

   And finally cut the ring land at the top. (-.013 less than diameter of
   skirt)
     __________________________________________________________________

   Step #14

   Remove the piston and cut the chucking button off with a hack saw or
   power abrasive saw about an 1/8" away from the crown.
     __________________________________________________________________

   [8][P3230009_small.jpg] Facing the crown after removing the chucking
   button.

   Step #15, chuck the piston the other direction and carefully turn the
   remains of the chucking button with the portion of the piston already
   faced in Step #11.'

   You have finished the turning operation!
     __________________________________________________________________

References

   1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/PistonMachiningSteps/P3230001.jpg
   2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/PistonMachiningSteps/P3230002.jpg
   3. http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/PistonMachiningSteps/P3230004.jpg
   4. http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/PistonMachiningSteps/P3230005.jpg
   5. http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/PistonMachiningSteps/P3230007.jpg
   6. http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/PistonMachiningSteps/P3230003.jpg
   7. http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/PistonMachiningSteps/P3230008.jpg
   8. http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/PistonMachiningSteps/P3230009.jpg

From edstoller at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 22 05:59:05 2013
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed Stoller)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 08:59:05 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons
References: <0DB956429BD04200BBFAE6BE4D191858@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <987AF0AFB5A14107B71B9D8DC50C0729@edlaptop>

It says this 'Old Threshing and Plowing days at Mike Burn.' at the top of my 
screne but it is not an active link.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield,  CT,   USA
www.enginesandmagnets.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine.org" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 7:36 AM
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons


> Do we have any members who have a web site that shows the steps for 
> machining blank pistons and making rings?
>
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> _______________________________________________
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From edstoller at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 22 06:04:12 2013
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed Stoller)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:04:12 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons
References: <0DB956429BD04200BBFAE6BE4D191858@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <14D13D1E17AC4596B64C36E4ECB679EF@edlaptop>

Peter.I have more pictures if you can use them.


PistonRings..

I have made quite a few rings for my engines as well as for friends using

the heat treat method and so far have not had a failure. If you have access

to a lathe its one of the easiest parts of a restoration.

Heres how I do it. Chuck up a bit of good cast in your 3 jaw. Bore it to the

fitted ring I.D. Machine the O.D to your bore diameter. Part them off. Split

the rings. ( I use a bit of pressure with some bolt cutters and they

fracture cleanly) Make up a wedge out of a bit of keysteel or whatever is

laying around and stack the rings together with the wedge in the gap holding

them open. Wrap some fireproof cloth to keep the direct flame off them. Put

the stack of rings between two plates with a 3/8 bolt holding them together.

I make up a little firebrick furnace on the shed floor and stick in a LP

torch and keep them to a dull red for a couple of hours. Pull them out when

cool and gap them.So far the rings I have made have gone into new bores and

there is no leakage past the rings and seem to work perfectly.

Ray Freeman

.......>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..

http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/MakingPistonRings/Thumbnail

s.html



Ed Stoller
New Fairfield,  CT,   USA
www.enginesandmagnets.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 7:36 AM
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons


> Do we have any members who have a web site that shows the steps for machining blank pistons and making rings?
> 
> 
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Mon Apr 22 05:58:34 2013
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:58:34 +1000
Subject: [SEL] NHMA National Rally
Message-ID: <CD9B711A.10422%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

My first batch of pics from the National:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_1/index.htm
Big could hardly describe this one. There was just to much to see and too
many people to chat to.
I did run into a couple of bewildered looking American's but they seemed to
having a good time.
Now I need some sleep. Such a big event, with two engines of my own, as well
as chasing around a 2 year old is hard work.
Patrick




From obise at moscow.com  Mon Apr 22 07:08:45 2013
From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:08:45 -0700
Subject: [SEL] NHMA National Rally
In-Reply-To: <CD9B711A.10422%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CD9B711A.10422%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5175446D.4030008@moscow.com>

Patrick, as usual your pictures are fantastic!  Thank you for all the 
hard work you put into making them available for all of us to enjoy.
     Best regards,
     Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.

On 4/22/2013 5:58 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote:
> My first batch of pics from the National:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_1/index.htm
> Big could hardly describe this one. There was just to much to see and too
> many people to chat to.
> I did run into a couple of bewildered looking American's but they seemed to
> having a good time.
> Now I need some sleep. Such a big event, with two engines of my own, as well
> as chasing around a 2 year old is hard work.
> Patrick



From obise at moscow.com  Mon Apr 22 07:09:30 2013
From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:09:30 -0700
Subject: [SEL] NHMA National Rally
In-Reply-To: <CD9B711A.10422%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CD9B711A.10422%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5175449A.3030005@moscow.com>

Patrick, as usual your pictures are fantastic!  Thank you for all the 
hard work you put into making them available for all of us to enjoy.
     Best regards,
     Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.

On 4/22/2013 5:58 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote:
> My first batch of pics from the National:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_1/index.htm
> Big could hardly describe this one. There was just to much to see and too
> many people to chat to.
> I did run into a couple of bewildered looking American's but they seemed to
> having a good time.
> Now I need some sleep. Such a big event, with two engines of my own, as well
> as chasing around a 2 year old is hard work.
> Patrick



From jbcast at charter.net  Mon Apr 22 08:21:20 2013
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:21:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons
Message-ID: <55776893.73d24b.13e3255be60.Webtop.43@charter.net>

This link should get you to a good article.

 
http://wewilliams.net/docs/1925%20-%20The%20Correct%20Way%20to%20Machine%20Oversize%20Pistons%20-%20Bulletin%20No%2085.pdf

J.B.







On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:

> Do we have any members who have a web site that shows the steps for 
> machining blank pistons and making rings?
>
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From frappi at wcoil.com  Mon Apr 22 13:38:37 2013
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:38:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <20130422203836.B38F4AC0E@smtp.wcoil.com>

I sent a note to the lists a few minutes ago and nothing is coming in. Mark






Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home
Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere
and Hercules Engines.
Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com

CAPITALISM Is the backbone of America and Freedom, Not Government or 
socialism!    



From jneth3 at mac.com  Mon Apr 22 13:55:43 2013
From: jneth3 at mac.com (John Neth)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:55:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <20130422203836.B38F4AC0E@smtp.wcoil.com>
References: <20130422203836.B38F4AC0E@smtp.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <52073E26-B29A-40A7-AE1E-ECE77BDFCAAD@mac.com>

Got you here.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 22, 2013, at 4:38 PM, Mark Shulaw <frappi at wcoil.com> wrote:

> I sent a note to the lists a few minutes ago and nothing is coming in. Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Shulaw
> 454 County Road 33
> Bluffton, OH. 45817
> USA
> 
> Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home
> Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere
> and Hercules Engines.
> Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
> VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com
> 
> CAPITALISM Is the backbone of America and Freedom, Not Government or 
> socialism!    
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From frappi at wcoil.com  Mon Apr 22 13:59:52 2013
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:59:52 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Big Muffler
Message-ID: <20130422205951.8D572ABA1@smtp.wcoil.com>


I tried sending this message a while ago with a link to a picture but 
it never came through, will try it without and see what happens. Mark

Hi All,
Anyone have an idea what this muffler is for? Its 27" long 11" 
diameter approx and has 3"  threaded openings. Weighs about 190 pounds.
The only markings on it are 1X23  H   the second digit represented by 
the X is a bad casting but might be a 2 .
Sure would silence a Maytag wouldn't it.  Mark




Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home
Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere
and Hercules Engines.
Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com

CAPITALISM Is the backbone of America and Freedom, Not Government or 
socialism!    



From david.carroll at talk21.com  Mon Apr 22 14:38:09 2013
From: david.carroll at talk21.com (david.carroll at talk21.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:38:09 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [SEL] Tractor and Engine sale UK
Message-ID: <1366666689.34534.YahooMailNeo@web186103.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>

Hi Gents,

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With best regards

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From bst41474 at bigpond.net.au  Mon Apr 22 16:50:01 2013
From: bst41474 at bigpond.net.au (Barry & Tanya Stait)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:50:01 +1000
Subject: [SEL] NHMA National Rally
In-Reply-To: <5175446D.4030008@moscow.com>
References: <CD9B711A.10422%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
	<5175446D.4030008@moscow.com>
Message-ID: <2BAF9ED588FD41BB9CEFED2ACB0222D0@Stait>

Patrick, what great photos again. I get to see the things I missed out on 
seeing.
And what a great rally. I would like to thank all of you for coming along 
and making it a truly great rally.
Barry

Barry & Tanya Stait.
Mudgee. NSW.
bst41474 at bigpond.net.au

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Orrin Iseminger" <obise at moscow.com>
To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Cc: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Patrick Livingstone" 
<patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] NHMA National Rally


> Patrick, as usual your pictures are fantastic!  Thank you for all the
> hard work you put into making them available for all of us to enjoy.
>     Best regards,
>     Orrin
>
> Orrin Iseminger
> Colton, Washington, USA
> http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
> So many projects.  So little time.
>
> On 4/22/2013 5:58 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote:
>> My first batch of pics from the National:
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_1/index.htm
>> Big could hardly describe this one. There was just to much to see and too
>> many people to chat to.
>> I did run into a couple of bewildered looking American's but they seemed 
>> to
>> having a good time.
>> Now I need some sleep. Such a big event, with two engines of my own, as 
>> well
>> as chasing around a 2 year old is hard work.
>> Patrick
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
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From curt at rustyiron.com  Mon Apr 22 20:05:04 2013
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:05:04 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons
In-Reply-To: <0DB956429BD04200BBFAE6BE4D191858@PeterPC>
References: <0DB956429BD04200BBFAE6BE4D191858@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <378174f4dad0c32752bbd349f58e75ae.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>


Peter,
I did this a few years back on the rings.
<http://oldengine.org/members/holland/images/MakingPistonRings/Thumbnails.html>

Curt Holland
Bessemer City, NC


> Do we have any members who have a web site that shows the steps for
> machining blank pistons and making rings?
>
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>




From curt at rustyiron.com  Mon Apr 22 20:11:21 2013
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:11:21 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons
In-Reply-To: <0DB956429BD04200BBFAE6BE4D191858@PeterPC>
References: <0DB956429BD04200BBFAE6BE4D191858@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <26d0fb6452caf2948be189fd18d743da.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>


Peter,
Here are the machining steps I include with the piston blanks I sell for
Hercules & Economy engines. This might be useful.
<http://oldengine.org/members/holland/images/PistonMachiningSteps/Thumbnails.html>

Curt Holland
Bessemer City, NC

> Do we have any members who have a web site that shows the steps for
> machining blank pistons and making rings?
>
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>




From curt at rustyiron.com  Mon Apr 22 20:18:27 2013
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:18:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons
In-Reply-To: <55776893.73d24b.13e3255be60.Webtop.43@charter.net>
References: <55776893.73d24b.13e3255be60.Webtop.43@charter.net>
Message-ID: <c8bcec33ab50546731232f032821d6ad.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>

J.B.
The method described works well if (and that's a big if) the core didn't
shift in molding/pouring operations! My experience is some shift of the
core mold does occur. Especially on horizontally cast pistons.
The vertical patterns you use are a nice improvement.
Curt Holland
Bessemer City, NC



> This link should get you to a good article.
>
>
> http://wewilliams.net/docs/1925%20-%20The%20Correct%20Way%20to%20Machine%20Oversize%20Pistons%20-%20Bulletin%20No%2085.pdf
>
> J.B.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>
>> Do we have any members who have a web site that shows the steps for
>> machining blank pistons and making rings?
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Peter Lowe
>> R&V Engine Registrar
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Mon Apr 22 20:24:20 2013
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (plowe at exemail.com.au)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:24:20 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <380-22013422332420607@M2W103.mail2web.com>

All fine here in Sunny Oz
Peter


I sent a note to the lists a few minutes ago and nothing is coming in. Mark






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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Mon Apr 22 20:30:42 2013
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (plowe at exemail.com.au)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:30:42 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons
Message-ID: <380-22013422333042538@M2W121.mail2web.com>


Hi Curt
Thanks for the link to your web site, is there one for step by step
machining of pistons?
Peter


Peter,
I did this a few years back on the rings.
<http://oldengine.org/members/holland/images/MakingPistonRings/Thumbnails.ht
ml>

Curt Holland
Bessemer City, NC


> Do we have any members who have a web site that shows the steps for
> machining blank pistons and making rings?
>
>
> Regards
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Mon Apr 22 21:37:20 2013
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:37:20 +1000
Subject: [SEL] NHMA National Rally
In-Reply-To: <2BAF9ED588FD41BB9CEFED2ACB0222D0@Stait>
Message-ID: <CD9C4D20.1043E%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

I have now uploaded the second batch of pictures at:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_2/index.htm


Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
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From rob at rustyiron.com  Tue Apr 23 14:18:55 2013
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:18:55 -0700
Subject: [SEL] NHMA National Rally - Crossley OE
In-Reply-To: <CD9C4D20.1043E%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CD9C4D20.1043E%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AF441E1B-A11C-44B5-812F-5F6408CFBEFD@rustyiron.com>


On Apr 22, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Patrick Livingstone <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have now uploaded the second batch of pictures at:
> 
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_2/index.htm
> 



Nice pictures, Patrick. Thanks.

 
 



From jbcast at charter.net  Tue Apr 23 19:06:34 2013
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:06:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Maching blank pistons
Message-ID: <1d9c6c22.74e13c.13e39cad51f.Webtop.43@charter.net>

Curt, we had 70 of them cast, three different patterns, all came out 
good. I'm doing another patern-core box for a three cylinder St Lawrence 
marine engine, will see how it works out.
J.B.







Apr 22, 2013 at 10:18 PM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote:

> J.B.
> The method described works well if (and that's a big if) the core 
> didn't
> shift in molding/pouring operations! My experience is some shift of 
> the
> core mold does occur. Especially on horizontally cast pistons.
> The vertical patterns you use are a nice improvement.
> Curt Holland
> Bessemer City, NC
>
>
>
>> This link should get you to a good article.
>>
>>
>> 
>> http://wewilliams.net/docs/1925%20-%20The%20Correct%20Way%20to%20Machine%20Oversize%20Pistons%20-%20Bulletin%20No%2085.pdf
>>
>> J.B.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>>
>>> Do we have any members who have a web site that shows the steps for
>>> machining blank pistons and making rings?
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Peter Lowe
>>> R&V Engine Registrar
>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
>>> Australia
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>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From rdi at rochester.rr.com  Wed Apr 24 08:25:46 2013
From: rdi at rochester.rr.com (Rick I.)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:25:46 -0400
Subject: [SEL] NHMA National Rally
References: <mailman.5.1366646401.7924.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <A82079F22696417AAD0F6A7A08F27C3A@marlin>

> From: Patrick Livingstone <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
> Subject: [SEL] NHMA National Rally
>
> My first batch of pics from the National:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_1/index.htm

Thanks, Patrick!  Great batch of photos!

The guy with all the Cooper sheep shearing machinery put in a LOT of 
artistry into his fold-out display, very impressive. (pics 073-075)

Other favorites:
That giant Crossley OE, pic 107
The *eggbeater* display??  pic 116  (I shouldn't laugh- I collect glass 
percolator tops...)
The giant suit-of-armor sheep, pic 224
The really big Blackstone- very amusing because it was on a hand-pull cart, 
pic 507
All those early rare engines shown inside, pics 522-549

-Rick I.



From rob at rustyiron.com  Wed Apr 24 10:10:54 2013
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:10:54 -0700
Subject: [SEL] NHMA National Rally
In-Reply-To: <A82079F22696417AAD0F6A7A08F27C3A@marlin>
References: <mailman.5.1366646401.7924.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
	<A82079F22696417AAD0F6A7A08F27C3A@marlin>
Message-ID: <821B1427-1BD4-4A90-AAF9-26F5A9BE5621@rustyiron.com>


On Apr 24, 2013, at 8:25 AM, Rick I. <rdi at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Patrick!  Great batch of photos!
> 
> The guy with all the Cooper sheep shearing machinery put in a LOT of 
> artistry into his fold-out display, very impressive. (pics 073-075)
> 
> Other favorites:
> That giant Crossley OE, pic 107
> The *eggbeater* display??  pic 116  (I shouldn't laugh- I collect glass 
> percolator tops...)
> The giant suit-of-armor sheep, pic 224
> The really big Blackstone- very amusing because it was on a hand-pull cart, 
> pic 507
> All those early rare engines shown inside, pics 522-549


Right on, Rick. 
Besides the mega-cool indoors engines, the OE was one of my favorites. 





From jbcast at charter.net  Wed Apr 24 19:01:41 2013
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:01:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo
Message-ID: <ae28580.71b904.13e3eecbb5d.Webtop.45@charter.net>


I may be in the Baraboo area for the May swap meet, is it a big meet, 
what days would be best to attend?
J.B. Castagnos


From dleis at centurytel.net  Wed Apr 24 19:15:54 2013
From: dleis at centurytel.net (Stacy Leis)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:15:54 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo
In-Reply-To: <ae28580.71b904.13e3eecbb5d.Webtop.45@charter.net>
References: <ae28580.71b904.13e3eecbb5d.Webtop.45@charter.net>
Message-ID: <9504E2EEC2EF4433B6DC3F2A40382920@StacyHP>

Saturday is the best day they have a auction

-----Original Message----- 
From: jbcast at charter.net 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:01 PM 
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com 
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo 


I may be in the Baraboo area for the May swap meet, is it a big meet, 
what days would be best to attend?
J.B. Castagnos
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From curt at rustyiron.com  Thu Apr 25 04:56:35 2013
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:56:35 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Recycled designs
In-Reply-To: <52073E26-B29A-40A7-AE1E-ECE77BDFCAAD@mac.com>
References: <20130422203836.B38F4AC0E@smtp.wcoil.com>
	<52073E26-B29A-40A7-AE1E-ECE77BDFCAAD@mac.com>
Message-ID: <2499d7da3d06643a2bbdcfe776ace36d.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>


Saw this today. Hailed as latest and greatest engine design, yet they fail
to acknowledge this was done a 100 years ago!
Tommy Turner, look familiar?
<http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/04/24/america-new-engine-future-to-be-made-in-china/>

Curt Holland
Bessemer City, NC



From rob at rustyiron.com  Thu Apr 25 08:32:10 2013
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:32:10 -0700
Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Re=3A__Recycled_designs?=
In-Reply-To: <2499d7da3d06643a2bbdcfe776ace36d.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
References: <20130422203836.B38F4AC0E@smtp.wcoil.com>
	<52073E26-B29A-40A7-AE1E-ECE77BDFCAAD@mac.com>
	<2499d7da3d06643a2bbdcfe776ace36d.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
Message-ID: <426733D4-A50C-479C-A8A7-12B85CEA3515@rustyiron.com>


On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:56 AM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote:

> 
> Saw this today. Hailed as latest and greatest engine design, yet they fail
> to acknowledge this was done a 100 years ago!
> Tommy Turner, look familiar?
> <http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/04/24/america-new-engine-future-to-be-made-in-china/>





Gobron-Brille was building an opposed piston engine long before Kansas City Haypress. 
Tommy, you would look good behind the wheel of one. 

http://www.nethercuttcollection.org/Cars.aspx?era=antique

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobron-Brilli?





From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Thu Apr 25 12:27:33 2013
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 15:27:33 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Re:  Recycled designs
In-Reply-To: <426733D4-A50C-479C-A8A7-12B85CEA3515@rustyiron.com>
References: <20130422203836.B38F4AC0E@smtp.wcoil.com>	<52073E26-B29A-40A7-AE1E-ECE77BDFCAAD@mac.com>	<2499d7da3d06643a2bbdcfe776ace36d.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
	<426733D4-A50C-479C-A8A7-12B85CEA3515@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <006601ce41ea$f03438b0$d09caa10$@scrtc.com>

Rob,
                Hey, technology has allowed great advancements!  Technology
of 100 years ago that is.  I wonder if these folks looked up ?Kansas City
Hay Press? and thought, ?I wonder if that would work now??.  Marv Hedberg is
working on my big KC, it?s the largest one out there.  One of these days
I?ll bring it to Portland and we?ll play with it.

Tommy Turner



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 11:32 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Re: Recycled designs


On Apr 25, 2013, at 4:56 AM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote:

> 
> Saw this today. Hailed as latest and greatest engine design, yet they 
> fail to acknowledge this was done a 100 years ago!
> Tommy Turner, look familiar?
> <http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/04/24/america-new-engine-future-t
> o-be-made-in-china/>





Gobron-Brille was building an opposed piston engine long before Kansas City
Haypress. 
Tommy, you would look good behind the wheel of one. 

http://www.nethercuttcollection.org/Cars.aspx?era=antique

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobron-Brilli?



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From jbcast at charter.net  Fri Apr 26 18:47:59 2013
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 21:47:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo
Message-ID: <7715c136.7330c4.13e492ce6cf.Webtop.46@charter.net>

Thanks Stacy and J, I had the wrong date for the meet, I thought it was 
on the 17th.
J.B.


On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Stacy Leis wrote:

> Saturday is the best day they have a auction
>
> -----Original Message----- From: jbcast at charter.net Sent: Wednesday, 
> April 24, 2013 7:01 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: 
> [SEL] Baraboo
>
> I may be in the Baraboo area for the May swap meet, is it a big meet, 
> what days would be best to attend?
> J.B. Castagnos
> _______________________________________________
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sat Apr 27 04:56:58 2013
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 21:56:58 +1000
Subject: [SEL] 2013 National Pics
Message-ID: <CDA1FA2A.1049D%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

It has taken a few days but I have now tidied up the pictures a bit and
added captions to the engines (when known). Now for some rest and
relaxation.
Tomorrows job will be to re-arrange the engines in the garage. The 1908
Austral has done quite a few rallies now and is due for a rest (before
everyone gets sick of the sight of it). It will get moved to the back corner
of the garage and something else will get moved to the rally ready position.

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_1/index.htm
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_2/index.htm
Patrick


Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From cgandree at mchsi.com  Sat Apr 27 05:15:03 2013
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:15:03 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo
In-Reply-To: <7715c136.7330c4.13e492ce6cf.Webtop.46@charter.net>
Message-ID: <1678499849.10042501367064903242.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

JB,
Just so you know the SEL ATis folks have designated set up area directly behind the craft building in the timber.  Please join us if you make it. Also I set up a banquet dinner for all of us on saturday night if you wish to join.
Hope to meet and see you there.
Curt Andree




----- Original Message -----
From: jbcast at charter.net
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:47:59 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [SEL] Baraboo

Thanks Stacy and J, I had the wrong date for the meet, I thought it was 
on the 17th.
J.B.


On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Stacy Leis wrote:

> Saturday is the best day they have a auction
>
> -----Original Message----- From: jbcast at charter.net Sent: Wednesday, 
> April 24, 2013 7:01 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: 
> [SEL] Baraboo
>
> I may be in the Baraboo area for the May swap meet, is it a big meet, 
> what days would be best to attend?
> J.B. Castagnos
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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>
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From cgandree at mchsi.com  Sat Apr 27 05:25:36 2013
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:25:36 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo
In-Reply-To: <1678499849.10042501367064903242.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
Message-ID: <1369008177.10043161367065536037.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

JB,
Spoke before I read your original msg request.  I was talking about the annual show in August not the swap meet.  However, I will be at the swap meet this weekend too.  Look for my red Dodge 2500RAM truck with a red topper and trailer (Illinois plates). Normally set up just to the right of the gate about 3 - 4 rows in towards the south end. Wouldn't mind meeting you.
Curt

----- Original Message -----
From: cgandree at mchsi.com
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 7:15:03 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [SEL] Baraboo

JB,
Just so you know the SEL ATis folks have designated set up area directly behind the craft building in the timber.  Please join us if you make it. Also I set up a banquet dinner for all of us on saturday night if you wish to join.
Hope to meet and see you there.
Curt Andree




----- Original Message -----
From: jbcast at charter.net
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:47:59 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [SEL] Baraboo

Thanks Stacy and J, I had the wrong date for the meet, I thought it was 
on the 17th.
J.B.


On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Stacy Leis wrote:

> Saturday is the best day they have a auction
>
> -----Original Message----- From: jbcast at charter.net Sent: Wednesday, 
> April 24, 2013 7:01 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: 
> [SEL] Baraboo
>
> I may be in the Baraboo area for the May swap meet, is it a big meet, 
> what days would be best to attend?
> J.B. Castagnos
> _______________________________________________
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From obise at moscow.com  Sat Apr 27 15:50:09 2013
From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:50:09 -0700
Subject: [SEL] 2013 National Pics
In-Reply-To: <CDA1FA2A.1049D%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CDA1FA2A.1049D%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <517C5621.3060902@moscow.com>

Patrick, I'm amazed at the number of pictures you took and even more 
amazed at your total effort.  Wow!

Thank you for all your hard work and for posting them.

     Best regards,
     Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.

On 4/27/2013 4:56 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote:
> It has taken a few days but I have now tidied up the pictures a bit and
> added captions to the engines (when known). Now for some rest and
> relaxation.
> Snip.
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_1/index.htm
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/nat_mudgee_2/index.htm
> Patrick
>
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> 0418 692013
> Earlwood NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>


From rotigel at me.com  Sat Apr 27 18:31:05 2013
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 21:31:05 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo
In-Reply-To: <1678499849.10042501367064903242.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
References: <1678499849.10042501367064903242.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
Message-ID: <0938D97B-EFA1-45E4-8827-95E7158C5704@me.com>

Hi Curt, I hope that you will pick a different place for the dinner this year. I no longer feel safe at the place we have eaten in past years. 
	Dave
PS, This is off list.

On Apr 27, 2013, at 8:15 AM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote:

> JB,
> Just so you know the SEL ATis folks have designated set up area directly behind the craft building in the timber.  Please join us if you make it. Also I set up a banquet dinner for all of us on saturday night if you wish to join.
> Hope to meet and see you there.
> Curt Andree
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jbcast at charter.net
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:47:59 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Baraboo
> 
> Thanks Stacy and J, I had the wrong date for the meet, I thought it was 
> on the 17th.
> J.B.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Stacy Leis wrote:
> 
>> Saturday is the best day they have a auction
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: jbcast at charter.net Sent: Wednesday, 
>> April 24, 2013 7:01 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: 
>> [SEL] Baraboo
>> 
>> I may be in the Baraboo area for the May swap meet, is it a big meet, 
>> what days would be best to attend?
>> J.B. Castagnos
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
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From jbcast at charter.net  Sat Apr 27 19:36:19 2013
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 22:36:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo
Message-ID: <61175c88.7391ab.13e4e7f83b5.Webtop.46@charter.net>

I won't be able to make the Baraboo swap meet Curt, I was invited to 
attend a workshop to write the test for the ASE (Automotive Service 
Excellence) will be in Leesburg, VA that week. A local friend bought a 
motor on Ebay and it was picked up by a friend in Roscoe, IL. We thought 
we could make the meet the same weekend, had the wrong date, will try to 
find another event on the way to make the trip more interesting.
J.B.



On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:

> Hi Curt, I hope that you will pick a different place for the dinner 
> this year. I no longer feel safe at the place we have eaten in past 
> years. 	Dave
> PS, This is off list.
>
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 8:15 AM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote:
>
>> JB,
>> Just so you know the SEL ATis folks have designated set up area 
>> directly behind the craft building in the timber.  Please join us if 
>> you make it. Also I set up a banquet dinner for all of us on saturday 
>> night if you wish to join.
>> Hope to meet and see you there.
>> Curt Andree
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: jbcast at charter.net
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:47:59 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Baraboo
>>
>> Thanks Stacy and J, I had the wrong date for the meet, I thought it 
>> was on the 17th.
>> J.B.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Stacy Leis wrote:
>>
>>> Saturday is the best day they have a auction
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: jbcast at charter.net Sent: Wednesday, 
>>> April 24, 2013 7:01 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: 
>>> [SEL] Baraboo
>>>
>>> I may be in the Baraboo area for the May swap meet, is it a big 
>>> meet, what days would be best to attend?
>>> J.B. Castagnos
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From rotigel at me.com  Sun Apr 28 04:10:36 2013
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 07:10:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo
In-Reply-To: <0938D97B-EFA1-45E4-8827-95E7158C5704@me.com>
References: <1678499849.10042501367064903242.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
	<0938D97B-EFA1-45E4-8827-95E7158C5704@me.com>
Message-ID: <9628C55C-1918-4194-9CCA-FEFD306C6A78@me.com>

Sorry (Curt, and) ALL--that was to go to Curt ONLY! My BAD!
	Dave

On Apr 27, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:

> Hi Curt, I hope that you will pick a different place for the dinner this year. I no longer feel safe at the place we have eaten in past years. 
> 	Dave
> PS, This is off list.
> 
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 8:15 AM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote:
> 
>> JB,
>> Just so you know the SEL ATis folks have designated set up area directly behind the craft building in the timber.  Please join us if you make it. Also I set up a banquet dinner for all of us on saturday night if you wish to join.
>> Hope to meet and see you there.
>> Curt Andree
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: jbcast at charter.net
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:47:59 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Baraboo
>> 
>> Thanks Stacy and J, I had the wrong date for the meet, I thought it was 
>> on the 17th.
>> J.B.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Stacy Leis wrote:
>> 
>>> Saturday is the best day they have a auction
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: jbcast at charter.net Sent: Wednesday, 
>>> April 24, 2013 7:01 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: 
>>> [SEL] Baraboo
>>> 
>>> I may be in the Baraboo area for the May swap meet, is it a big meet, 
>>> what days would be best to attend?
>>> J.B. Castagnos
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>> 
>>> 
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From rotigel at me.com  Sun Apr 28 11:58:27 2013
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:58:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Drag saw Blade Sharpening
Message-ID: <A3F37AF0-25FB-4CAD-9ADF-3AA65E686698@me.com>

Hi All,
	Some of you know that I've been interested in drag saws for a good bit of time now, and further that (after buying a Hercules drag saw at Portland last year) and sawing up a 16' (30 " popular) log into many 3" pieces the Zolfo Show in Feb. of this year, I became interested in learning how to sharpen the drag saw blades. I've yet to find anything much on the net re: the sharpening of drag saw blades, but much of what is "out there" re: sharpening crosscut saws applies also to drag saws. (See: http://www.bchw.org/Tech%20tips/Crosscut%20Sharpening.htm      one of the best is: http://www.bchw.org/Tech%20tips/FilerDVD.htm  ) 
	There are many tools available on e-bay for sharpening a crosscut (and therefore a drag) saw blade. One of then is for setting the teeth and was manufactured by Buller. I located this one ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/290868176663?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 ) in March and am very pleased with the way it works, and the fact that it is adjustable. Three of them showed up on ebay in early March. I'm sure that more will show up! If you decide to buy tools for sharpening drag (crosscut) saw blades be sure it (they) are combination tools--i.e. jointer, raker and pin gage tools. Disston and Simonds are two of the most common. (Atkins is also a common brand, but many of the Atkins were early and did not have the pin gage on them.) Don't worry about buying a "long" raker. (You don't need one UNLESS you are sharpening a crosscut saw for competition--and if so, you already know one hell of a lot more than I do about all this and probably already own a long raker!)
	The most important thing I have learned in the last month about sharpening drag saw blades is that the difference in height between the cutting teeth and the raker teeth IS CRITICAL! My first attempt at sharpening a blade was to have the rakers about .030 (~1/32) below the cutting teeth. (The Disston literature says 1/64-1/32. The Ottawa log saw literature says the same.) I figured that MORE had to be better than LESS, right? NOT! Both my Hercules and a friend's Witte log saw would jam and make the clutch slip with the rakers at that depth. (The set on the cutting teeth did not seem to batter very much.) I changed the depth of the rakers to ~.012 (just a bit less than 1/64) and both the Hercules and the Witte cut just fine! (I think the Ottawa may be able to push the blade with a .030 difference, but the Ottawa is a 5 HP.)
	I also found that two good saw vises help a lot when sharpening a blade. (BIG "C" clamps and 4X4's will work as well, but the vices I bought on ebay (See: http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-ANTIQUE-HENRY-DISSTON-SONS-SAW-VISE-CLAMP-FILER-TOOL-CROSSCUT-SAW-LOGGING-/380591710610?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=TcdmMwgeit4h96MYIViSffpllGc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc  ) help because you are able to tilt them when sharpening the cutting teeth. A REAL saw vice would really be nice to have--but I don't think I will be going into production with this project soon! If I can help anyone with the little bit of knowledge I've accumulated over the past 6 weeks, or so please feel free to contact me!
	Dave


From Germoamer at aol.com  Sun Apr 28 13:12:19 2013
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 16:12:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Drag saw Blade Sharpening
Message-ID: <110a81.7d44967d.3eaedca2@aol.com>



 
In a message dated 4/28/2013 3:07:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rotigel at me.com writes:

The most important thing I have learned in the last month about  sharpening 
drag saw blades is that the difference in height between the  cutting teeth 
and the raker teeth IS CRITICAL! 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
 
Yep, that is true and easily screwed up on chain saws too.  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord, Va.  
germoamer at aol.com




From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 28 13:43:52 2013
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:43:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Drag saw Blade Sharpening
In-Reply-To: <A3F37AF0-25FB-4CAD-9ADF-3AA65E686698@me.com>
Message-ID: <1367181832.95179.YahooMailClassic@web126102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I have been sharpening saws and drill bits?for a long time.
I was taught by an old guy that was a great hand filer.
For the two man or one man cross cut saws I have the?saw that my father and step-father used years ago to saw firewood for a living. I also have the tools they used to sharpen them with. 
My step-father spent more time with my dad and grand-father than he did with his own family. He told me that he and my dad made more money with the firewood than any two guys working in a shop in town even though half of what they cut had to stay with the guy that owned the land. 
Dad was born in 1915 and my step-father was born in 1916.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sun, 4/28/13, Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:


From: Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
Subject: [SEL] Drag saw Blade Sharpening
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>, "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Date: Sunday, April 28, 2013, 2:58 PM


Hi All,
??? Some of you know that I've been interested in drag saws for a good bit of time now, and further that (after buying a Hercules drag saw at Portland last year) and sawing up a 16' (30 " popular) log into many 3" pieces the Zolfo Show in Feb. of this year, I became interested in learning how to sharpen the drag saw blades. I've yet to find anything much on the net re: the sharpening of drag saw blades, but much of what is "out there" re: sharpening crosscut saws applies also to drag saws. (See: http://www.bchw.org/Tech%20tips/Crosscut%20Sharpening.htm? ? ? one of the best is: http://www.bchw.org/Tech%20tips/FilerDVD.htm? ) 
??? There are many tools available on e-bay for sharpening a crosscut (and therefore a drag) saw blade. One of then is for setting the teeth and was manufactured by Buller. I located this one ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/290868176663?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 ) in March and am very pleased with the way it works, and the fact that it is adjustable. Three of them showed up on ebay in early March. I'm sure that more will show up! If you decide to buy tools for sharpening drag (crosscut) saw blades be sure it (they) are combination tools--i.e. jointer, raker and pin gage tools. Disston and Simonds are two of the most common. (Atkins is also a common brand, but many of the Atkins were early and did not have the pin gage on them.) Don't worry about buying a "long" raker. (You don't need one UNLESS you are sharpening a crosscut saw for competition--and if so, you already know one hell of a lot more than I do about all this and probably
 already own a long raker!)
??? The most important thing I have learned in the last month about sharpening drag saw blades is that the difference in height between the cutting teeth and the raker teeth IS CRITICAL! My first attempt at sharpening a blade was to have the rakers about .030 (~1/32) below the cutting teeth. (The Disston literature says 1/64-1/32. The Ottawa log saw literature says the same.) I figured that MORE had to be better than LESS, right? NOT! Both my Hercules and a friend's Witte log saw would jam and make the clutch slip with the rakers at that depth. (The set on the cutting teeth did not seem to batter very much.) I changed the depth of the rakers to ~.012 (just a bit less than 1/64) and both the Hercules and the Witte cut just fine! (I think the Ottawa may be able to push the blade with a .030 difference, but the Ottawa is a 5 HP.)
??? I also found that two good saw vises help a lot when sharpening a blade. (BIG "C" clamps and 4X4's will work as well, but the vices I bought on ebay (See: http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-ANTIQUE-HENRY-DISSTON-SONS-SAW-VISE-CLAMP-FILER-TOOL-CROSSCUT-SAW-LOGGING-/380591710610?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=TcdmMwgeit4h96MYIViSffpllGc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc? ) help because you are able to tilt them when sharpening the cutting teeth. A REAL saw vice would really be nice to have--but I don't think I will be going into production with this project soon! If I can help anyone with the little bit of knowledge I've accumulated over the past 6 weeks, or so please feel free to contact me!
??? Dave
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From jbcast at charter.net  Sun Apr 28 15:31:08 2013
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 18:31:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Drag saw Blade Sharpening
Message-ID: <58286c1c.775c97.13e52c566d9.Webtop.43@charter.net>

Good info Dave, I'll pass it along to a friend with a drag saw. Reminds 
me of my early years in the hobby, Dickie Gibbens bought an Ottawa drag 
saw, after watching it operate for a few minutes I told him "aint 
nothing on there can't hurt you".
J.B. Castagnos


On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:

> Hi All,
> 	Some of you know that I've been interested in drag saws for a good 
> bit of time now, and further that (after buying a Hercules drag saw at 
> Portland last year) and sawing up a 16' (30 " popular) log into many 
> 3" pieces the Zolfo Show in Feb. of this year, I became interested in 
> learning how to sharpen the drag saw blades. I've yet to find anything 
> much on the net re: the sharpening of drag saw blades, but much of 
> what is "out there" re: sharpening crosscut saws applies also to drag 
> saws. (See: http://www.bchw.org/Tech%20tips/Crosscut%20Sharpening.htm 
> one of the best is: http://www.bchw.org/Tech%20tips/FilerDVD.htm  ) 	 
> There are many tools available on e-bay for sharpening a crosscut (and 
> therefore a drag) saw blade. One of then is for setting the teeth and 
> was manufactured by Buller. I located this one ( 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/290868176663?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 
> ) in March and am very pleased with the way it works, and the fact 
> that it is adjustable. Three of them showed up on ebay in early March. 
> I'm sure that more will show up! If you decide to buy tools for 
> sharpening drag (crosscut) saw blades be sure it (they) are 
> combination tools--i.e. jointer, raker and pin gage tools. Disston and 
> Simonds are two of the most common. (Atkins is also a common brand, 
> but many of the Atkins were early and did not have the pin gage on 
> them.) Don't worry about buying a "long" raker. (You don't need one 
> UNLESS you are sharpening a crosscut saw for competition--and if so, 
> you already know one hell of a lot more than I do about all this and 
> probably already own a long raker!)
> 	The most important thing I have learned in the last month about 
> sharpening drag saw blades is that the difference in height between 
> the cutting teeth and the raker teeth IS CRITICAL! My first attempt at 
> sharpening a blade was to have the rakers about .030 (~1/32) below the 
> cutting teeth. (The Disston literature says 1/64-1/32. The Ottawa log 
> saw literature says the same.) I figured that MORE had to be better 
> than LESS, right? NOT! Both my Hercules and a friend's Witte log saw 
> would jam and make the clutch slip with the rakers at that depth. (The 
> set on the cutting teeth did not seem to batter very much.) I changed 
> the depth of the rakers to ~.012 (just a bit less than 1/64) and both 
> the Hercules and the Witte cut just fine! (I think the Ottawa may be 
> able to push the blade with a .030 difference, but the Ottawa is a 5 
> HP.)
> 	I also found that two good saw vises help a lot when sharpening a 
> blade. (BIG "C" clamps and 4X4's will work as well, but the vices I 
> bought on ebay (See: 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-ANTIQUE-HENRY-DISSTON-SONS-SAW-VISE-CLAMP-FILER-TOOL-CROSSCUT-SAW-LOGGING-/380591710610?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=TcdmMwgeit4h96MYIViSffpllGc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc 
> ) help because you are able to tilt them when sharpening the cutting 
> teeth. A REAL saw vice would really be nice to have--but I don't think 
> I will be going into production with this project soon! If I can help 
> anyone with the little bit of knowledge I've accumulated over the past 
> 6 weeks, or so please feel free to contact me!
> 	Dave
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From bst41474 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Apr 30 05:33:34 2013
From: bst41474 at bigpond.net.au (Barry & Tanya Stait)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 22:33:34 +1000
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
Message-ID: <3D74DA53A4DF4FF784D0EB753506EE7A@Stait>

Hi everyone,
Here is a link to some more photos of the national rally taken by the manger of the AREC site.
http://www.mudgeebusiness.com/antique-machinery-rally.html
Still doing the final figures, but it appears we had over 13,000 people through the gate.
Thanks again to everyone who came along and made a great rally.
Barry.
Barry & Tanya Stait.
Mudgee. NSW. Aust.
bst41474 at bigpond.net.au

From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 30 11:16:26 2013
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 11:16:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
In-Reply-To: <3D74DA53A4DF4FF784D0EB753506EE7A@Stait>
Message-ID: <1367345786.88767.YahooMailClassic@web126105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

13,000 through the gate?
How many days?
Is that a total for the whole show?
I thought the National would be a larger show.
I still would love to make it down there for your engine season some time.
?
At just our local show we have seen up to 40,000 just on a Saturday.
http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Tue, 4/30/13, Barry & Tanya Stait <bst41474 at bigpond.net.au> wrote:


From: Barry & Tanya Stait <bst41474 at bigpond.net.au>
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 8:33 AM


Hi everyone,
Here is a link to some more photos of the national rally taken by the manger of the AREC site.
http://www.mudgeebusiness.com/antique-machinery-rally.html
Still doing the final figures, but it appears we had over 13,000 people through the gate.
Thanks again to everyone who came along and made a great rally.
Barry.
Barry & Tanya Stait.
Mudgee. NSW. Aust.
bst41474 at bigpond.net.au
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From brian.watts6 at bigpond.com  Tue Apr 30 15:44:00 2013
From: brian.watts6 at bigpond.com (Brian Watts)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 08:44:00 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Not much mail
Message-ID: <000001ce45f4$35ca24e0$a15e6ea0$@watts6@bigpond.com>



Is everyone asleep or is my computer ?

I am not getting any mail


From langer5 at xplornet.ca  Tue Apr 30 16:40:57 2013
From: langer5 at xplornet.ca (Larry Anger)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 19:40:57 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Not much mail
In-Reply-To: <51804a1b.6148ec0a.6c63.7bd1SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
References: <51804a1b.6148ec0a.6c63.7bd1SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <46BABCC1-B38E-4BC9-A971-536CDB7F8CA5@xplornet.ca>

I'm still awake here!!!! For a little while!!

Larry Anger

On 2013-04-30, at 6:44 PM, "Brian Watts" <brian.watts6 at bigpond.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Is everyone asleep or is my computer ?
> 
> I am not getting any mail
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From rob at rustyiron.com  Tue Apr 30 16:52:13 2013
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 16:52:13 -0700
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
In-Reply-To: <1367345786.88767.YahooMailClassic@web126105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1367345786.88767.YahooMailClassic@web126105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0A92B41B-9AA5-450C-9EC6-B371612CAF48@rustyiron.com>


On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 13,000 through the gate?
> How many days?
> Is that a total for the whole show?
> I thought the National would be a larger show.
> I still would love to make it down there for your engine season some time.
>  
> At just our local show we have seen up to 40,000 just on a Saturday.
> http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/


What the Australians might have lacked in gross attendance, 
they more than made up for in QUALITY engines. 









From al.harris at rustic-engines.com  Tue Apr 30 17:05:23 2013
From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 10:05:23 +1000
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
In-Reply-To: <0A92B41B-9AA5-450C-9EC6-B371612CAF48@rustyiron.com>
References: <1367345786.88767.YahooMailClassic@web126105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<0A92B41B-9AA5-450C-9EC6-B371612CAF48@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <51805C43.2050008@rustic-engines.com>

I wonder how USA v Oz would compare on a "per population" percentage basis?


On 1/05/2013 9:52 AM, Rob Skinner wrote:
> On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> 13,000 through the gate?
>> How many days?
>> Is that a total for the whole show?
>> I thought the National would be a larger show.
>> I still would love to make it down there for your engine season some time.
>>   
>> At just our local show we have seen up to 40,000 just on a Saturday.
>> http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/
>
> What the Australians might have lacked in gross attendance,
> they more than made up for in QUALITY engines.
>
>



From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 30 17:47:48 2013
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 17:47:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
In-Reply-To: <0A92B41B-9AA5-450C-9EC6-B371612CAF48@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <1367369268.35125.YahooMailClassic@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I sure KNOW that. 
With all of those beautiful engines there it seems more people would show up.
Alan in Michigan

--- On Tue, 4/30/13, Rob Skinner <rob at rustyiron.com> wrote:


From: Rob Skinner <rob at rustyiron.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 7:52 PM



On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 13,000 through the gate?
> How many days?
> Is that a total for the whole show?
> I thought the National would be a larger show.
> I still would love to make it down there for your engine season some time.
>? 
> At just our local show we have seen up to 40,000 just on a Saturday.
> http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/


What the Australians might have lacked in gross attendance, 
they more than made up for in QUALITY engines. 







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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 30 17:52:27 2013
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 17:52:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
In-Reply-To: <51805C43.2050008@rustic-engines.com>
Message-ID: <1367369547.66127.YahooMailClassic@web126102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Or it could be because we have a lot of ground that belongs to the club and there is a lot for the whole family to do. 
I also can invite just anyone under my canopy to have a seat while my engines are running.
All I can do is set here and drool over those pictures from down there.
?
Alan
--- On Tue, 4/30/13, Al Harris <al.harris at rustic-engines.com> wrote:


From: Al Harris <al.harris at rustic-engines.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 8:05 PM


I wonder how USA v Oz would compare on a "per population" percentage basis?


On 1/05/2013 9:52 AM, Rob Skinner wrote:
> On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> 13,000 through the gate?
>> How many days?
>> Is that a total for the whole show?
>> I thought the National would be a larger show.
>> I still would love to make it down there for your engine season some time.
>>???
>> At just our local show we have seen up to 40,000 just on a Saturday.
>> http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/
>
> What the Australians might have lacked in gross attendance,
> they more than made up for in QUALITY engines.
>
>

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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Tue Apr 30 17:53:27 2013
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 10:53:27 +1000
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
In-Reply-To: <51805C43.2050008@rustic-engines.com>
Message-ID: <CDA6A433.4073%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

There is quite a big difference in population. USA is at approximately 311
million while Australia is at around 23 million (covering a similar land
size). So percentage wise it was not a bad crowd. Saying that, I thought
there would have been more through the gate for such a great event.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





On 1/05/13 10:05 AM, "Al Harris" <al.harris at rustic-engines.com> wrote:

>I wonder how USA v Oz would compare on a "per population" percentage
>basis?
>
>
>On 1/05/2013 9:52 AM, Rob Skinner wrote:
>> On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 13,000 through the gate?
>>> How many days?
>>> Is that a total for the whole show?
>>> I thought the National would be a larger show.
>>> I still would love to make it down there for your engine season some
>>>time.
>>>   
>>> At just our local show we have seen up to 40,000 just on a Saturday.
>>> http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/
>>
>> What the Australians might have lacked in gross attendance,
>> they more than made up for in QUALITY engines.
>>
>>
>
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From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue Apr 30 17:40:57 2013
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 20:40:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
Message-ID: <3399c.6761b039.3eb1be99@aol.com>



 
In a message dated 4/30/2013 7:57:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rob at rustyiron.com writes:

What the Australians might have lacked in gross attendance,  
they more than made up for in QUALITY engines. 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------


I will agree with that 100%!  I sure have enjoyed looking at  all the great 
pictures of a great show!
 
 
 
Tom  Schmutz
Concord, Va.  
germoamer at aol.com




From al.harris at rustic-engines.com  Tue Apr 30 18:33:40 2013
From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 11:33:40 +1000
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
In-Reply-To: <CDA6A433.4073%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CDA6A433.4073%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <518070F4.4090306@rustic-engines.com>

That is exactly what I was eluding to Patrick. Saturday was by far the 
biggest day and that has to be seen in the context that Mudgee is not a 
huge town and there are no close dense cities to draw folk from. I think 
the local club performed magnificently.
Don't know about that gruff old bloke on the PA though. ;-)

BTW that's a nice shot of that old, bright yellow Sunshine Type B - 2HP 
- No.275.  :-)

Al
Formerly of Earlwood.
Currently of Ashby.


On 1/05/2013 10:53 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote:
> There is quite a big difference in population. USA is at approximately 311
> million while Australia is at around 23 million (covering a similar land
> size). So percentage wise it was not a bad crowd. Saying that, I thought
> there would have been more through the gate for such a great event.
> Patrick
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> 0418 692013
> Earlwood NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/05/13 10:05 AM, "Al Harris" <al.harris at rustic-engines.com> wrote:
>
>> I wonder how USA v Oz would compare on a "per population" percentage
>> basis?
>>
>>
>> On 1/05/2013 9:52 AM, Rob Skinner wrote:
>>> On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 13,000 through the gate?
>>>> How many days?
>>>> Is that a total for the whole show?
>>>> I thought the National would be a larger show.
>>>> I still would love to make it down there for your engine season some
>>>> time.
>>>>    
>>>> At just our local show we have seen up to 40,000 just on a Saturday.
>>>> http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/
>>> What the Australians might have lacked in gross attendance,
>>> they more than made up for in QUALITY engines.
>>>
>>>
>>



From bst41474 at bigpond.net.au  Tue Apr 30 23:06:59 2013
From: bst41474 at bigpond.net.au (Barry & Tanya Stait)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 16:06:59 +1000
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
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The rally was over 3 days. 13,000 was the general public through the gate. 
Had over 1,200 items on display.
Barry.
Barry & Tanya Stait.
Mudgee. NSW. Aust.
bst41474 at bigpond.net.au

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan" <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 4:16 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.


13,000 through the gate?
How many days?
Is that a total for the whole show?
I thought the National would be a larger show.
I still would love to make it down there for your engine season some time.

At just our local show we have seen up to 40,000 just on a Saturday.
http://www.buckleyoldengineshow.org/

Alan in Michigan

--- On Tue, 4/30/13, Barry & Tanya Stait <bst41474 at bigpond.net.au> wrote:


From: Barry & Tanya Stait <bst41474 at bigpond.net.au>
Subject: [SEL] More National Rally Photos.
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 8:33 AM


Hi everyone,
Here is a link to some more photos of the national rally taken by the manger 
of the AREC site.
http://www.mudgeebusiness.com/antique-machinery-rally.html
Still doing the final figures, but it appears we had over 13,000 people 
through the gate.
Thanks again to everyone who came along and made a great rally.
Barry.
Barry & Tanya Stait.
Mudgee. NSW. Aust.
bst41474 at bigpond.net.au
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