From rotigel at me.com  Thu Nov  1 12:19:26 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 15:19:26 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Zolfo 2013 Dates
Message-ID: <417DCD02-DF80-45EF-8A74-D571D0FA8BFB@me.com>

Just talked to Latisha about the Pioneer Park Show (FL) dates for 2013. The dates are Feb. 27-March 3, 2013.
	Dave



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Nov  3 03:29:16 2012
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 10:29:16 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Stolen Engines - Dave Croft - Warrington UK
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00KZGrsiv0LgJRNN9gT8MNpDKfTwa2mp-DxyGoQ7R4H3RQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dave emailed me this morning to say that his outside shed was broken
into and three engines stolen, two of which are probably Danish
engines that are quite rare in the UK.

I have asked Dave for pictures to post here and on the stationary
engine forum, and with the Enstone bring and buy sale coming up next
weekend, there is a chance that these might turn up there on someone's
stall.

I have posted a brief warning on the Forum as many members will be
going to Enstone.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Nov  3 04:15:53 2012
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 11:15:53 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Stolen Engines - Dave Croft - Warrington UK
In-Reply-To: <CAMEZ00KZGrsiv0LgJRNN9gT8MNpDKfTwa2mp-DxyGoQ7R4H3RQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEZ00KZGrsiv0LgJRNN9gT8MNpDKfTwa2mp-DxyGoQ7R4H3RQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00LWUm2h4NBi_7qASLcE55q+uxT+1i_uOkni2cMd9oyrDQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 3 November 2012 10:29, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dave emailed me this morning to say that his outside shed was broken
> into and three engines stolen, two of which are probably Danish
> engines that are quite rare in the UK.

Here are pictures from Dave Croft, first one is the storage building,
second two are the engines:

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded6/Sam_0697Red.jpg

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded6/Old FF 3 HP.jpg

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded6/BLA Vertical 1.5 HP.jpg

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Nov  3 04:17:37 2012
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 11:17:37 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Stolen Engines - Dave Croft - Warrington UK
In-Reply-To: <CAMEZ00LWUm2h4NBi_7qASLcE55q+uxT+1i_uOkni2cMd9oyrDQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEZ00KZGrsiv0LgJRNN9gT8MNpDKfTwa2mp-DxyGoQ7R4H3RQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMEZ00LWUm2h4NBi_7qASLcE55q+uxT+1i_uOkni2cMd9oyrDQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00Jytw937gQAJWwT+okqrzpWcLAmpPxFScT7uX5e2J25NA@mail.gmail.com>

On 3 November 2012 11:15, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> Here are pictures from Dave Croft, first one is the storage building,
> second two are the engines:
>
> http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded6/Sam_0697Red.jpg
>
> http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded6/Old FF 3 HP.jpg
>
> http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded6/BLA Vertical 1.5 HP.jpg

Watch out for the gaps in the picture names, some browsers won't pick
that whole line up.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Nov  3 11:22:00 2012
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:22:00 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Theft of my Engines
In-Reply-To: <355816670.8346391351962564799.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
References: <3544c.68d64db0.3dc6a075@aol.com>
	<355816670.8346391351962564799.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00J4SNgViw5=NtjP5ExpMYcJZLcXnnKjCmDfDB=VrEUUaw@mail.gmail.com>

On 3 November 2012 17:09,  <cgandree at mchsi.com> wrote:
> Ok guys here is a direct send on Dave Crofts loss. Hopefully you engine men in the UK will go to work and give him a hand retrieving his prized possesions, not to mention keel-hauling the culprits that
> took from my good friend Dave.
> Curt Andree

The big problem appears to be that Dave hasn't got a handle on WHEN
the break-in occurred, the building is remote from his home, and
presumably he was informed by a neighbour or a friend about the
building being broken into.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Mon Nov  5 03:13:35 2012
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 22:13:35 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith 100th rally
Message-ID: <CCBDEA8F.F5F6%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

It was a fantastic weekend. I caught up with a lot of people from all over
Australia. It was great to put faces to names of people I had only spoken to
on the phone or via email or forums. Sadly I did not have time to catch up
with everyone, but there is always next time.
The array of exhibits was amazing and just when I thought I had seen
everything I would discover another shed or compound I had missed.
I would not have minded staying another day but I had to get home to babysit
a slightly unwell little engine man. This morning I left early and drove
from Ballarat home to Sydney in 10 hours. Austral No.182/755 is safely
stowed back in its shed after a great weekend visiting its family ;)
Some pics on my site at:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/lg100th/index.htm
No captions as yet but I should get them done by the weekend.
Enjoy!
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk  Mon Nov  5 11:09:04 2012
From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (Craig Morrison)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 19:09:04 -0000
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith 100th rally
References: <CCBDEA8F.F5F6%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AD2B4ED8D7C247759D263145597A34D8@craig8b4f43368>

Patrick,  Thanks for taking the time to firstly take all these photos and 
then to post them for all of us to see. I really liked the pictures of the 
Angus engine as it took me 10 years (I didn't realise OZ was such a big 
place) to track down the owner of it so that he could help with photos of 
the Angus engine that I have, incidentally as far as we can ascertain this 
is the only 2 Angus engines to exist. What really weird about this is that 
one is in Australia and the other is in Scotland where it has been all of 
it's life.

Thanks, Craig

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 11:13 AM
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith 100th rally


> It was a fantastic weekend. I caught up with a lot of people from all over
> Australia. It was great to put faces to names of people I had only spoken 
> to
> on the phone or via email or forums. Sadly I did not have time to catch up
> with everyone, but there is always next time.
> The array of exhibits was amazing and just when I thought I had seen
> everything I would discover another shed or compound I had missed.
> I would not have minded staying another day but I had to get home to 
> babysit
> a slightly unwell little engine man. This morning I left early and drove
> from Ballarat home to Sydney in 10 hours. Austral No.182/755 is safely
> stowed back in its shed after a great weekend visiting its family ;)
> Some pics on my site at:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/lg100th/index.htm
> No captions as yet but I should get them done by the weekend.
> Enjoy!
> Patrick
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> 0418 692013
> Earlwood NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  6 14:31:49 2012
From: frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com (Lyndsay Frazer)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:31:49 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith 100th rally
In-Reply-To: <AD2B4ED8D7C247759D263145597A34D8@craig8b4f43368>
References: <CCBDEA8F.F5F6%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>,
	<AD2B4ED8D7C247759D263145597A34D8@craig8b4f43368>
Message-ID: <SNT144-W5064AFD02F911BFC84EE82A36B0@phx.gbl>


Thanks for the great photos Patrick. Sorry I missed you at the Rally but must have been off talking as usual. It certainly was a big event with some very rare engines present.
Regards
Lyndsay 
 


> From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 19:09:04 +0000
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith 100th rally
> 
> Patrick, Thanks for taking the time to firstly take all these photos and 
> then to post them for all of us to see. I really liked the pictures of the 
> Angus engine as it took me 10 years (I didn't realise OZ was such a big 
> place) to track down the owner of it so that he could help with photos of 
> the Angus engine that I have, incidentally as far as we can ascertain this 
> is the only 2 Angus engines to exist. What really weird about this is that 
> one is in Australia and the other is in Scotland where it has been all of 
> it's life.
> 
> Thanks, Craig
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
> To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine" 
> <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 11:13 AM
> Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith 100th rally
> 
> 
> > It was a fantastic weekend. I caught up with a lot of people from all over
> > Australia. It was great to put faces to names of people I had only spoken 
> > to
> > on the phone or via email or forums. Sadly I did not have time to catch up
> > with everyone, but there is always next time.
> > The array of exhibits was amazing and just when I thought I had seen
> > everything I would discover another shed or compound I had missed.
> > I would not have minded staying another day but I had to get home to 
> > babysit
> > a slightly unwell little engine man. This morning I left early and drove
> > from Ballarat home to Sydney in 10 hours. Austral No.182/755 is safely
> > stowed back in its shed after a great weekend visiting its family ;)
> > Some pics on my site at:
> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/lg100th/index.htm
> > No captions as yet but I should get them done by the weekend.
> > Enjoy!
> > Patrick
> >
> > Patrick M Livingstone
> > 0418 692013
> > Earlwood NSW
> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From gop4evr at lsol.net  Thu Nov  8 10:41:24 2012
From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 12:41:24 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo 2013
Message-ID: <92E33CE6-4641-4AA2-ABFC-AC741E09AC1D@lsol.net>

For those attending Next summer's show in Baraboo, WI --
I am starting to reserve vacation days for next year, and I have set aside the Baraboo weekend in August.  We will be calling this week to make motel reservations.  Is there a preferred lodging for the group, or should I just take pot luck?

There always seems to be something coming up to keep me away from that show, so I am determined to get there this year.  Add to that the fact that I was not feeling very good the last time I did get there.  I need to plan ahead and enjoy!


Nels Johnsrud
Manitowoc WI
gop4evr at lsol.net








From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Nov  8 12:42:55 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 15:42:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo 2013
In-Reply-To: <92E33CE6-4641-4AA2-ABFC-AC741E09AC1D@lsol.net>
References: <92E33CE6-4641-4AA2-ABFC-AC741E09AC1D@lsol.net>
Message-ID: <8098a2c08e28ac3d25929ed7c31425f2.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

Nels,

You should really plan on being there for Fri-Sun.
The last few years a number of us have been staying at the Motel 6.
http://www.motel6.com/reservations/motel_detail.aspx?num=4281
It's cheap and very close to the showgrounds.

See ya,  Arnie

On Thu, November 8, 2012 1:41 pm, Nelson Johnsrud wrote:
> For those attending Next summer's show in Baraboo, WI --
> I am starting to reserve vacation days for next year, and I have set aside
> the Baraboo weekend in August.  We will be calling this week to make motel
> reservations.  Is there a preferred lodging for the group, or should I
> just take pot luck?
>
> There always seems to be something coming up to keep me away from that
> show, so I am determined to get there this year.  Add to that the fact
> that I was not feeling very good the last time I did get there.  I need to
> plan ahead and enjoy!
>
>
> Nels Johnsrud
> Manitowoc WI
> gop4evr at lsol.net




From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Fri Nov  9 03:56:44 2012
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 22:56:44 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Some video taken at the 100th Lake Goldsmith Rally
Message-ID: <CCC33AAC.F681%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

Austral Oil Engine No.226. The only known flyball governed Austral
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CRr41jNGHY

1903 10hp Coulson "Simplex" Oil Engine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IfKvNTnPKM

Excelsior built by Philip Rayson Melbourne.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsUcTKZ_Ehw

Harris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxyk59r6TD0

T. Melvin & Son, Glasgow. 2.5hp c1896
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEqPs3EBRVk

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From gop4evr at lsol.net  Fri Nov  9 08:22:37 2012
From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 10:22:37 -0600
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2 hp Hercules E parts
Message-ID: <0300CA23-117C-4524-8AD4-A14A8DE71D77@lsol.net>

I was rooting around in my garage yesterday and I found an interesting package.  In it are a brand new set of rings, head gasket, igniter gasket, and "Hercules" decals for a 1-1/2 hp model E Hercules engine.  There is even a new set of 'spring hook' roller bushings for the Webster mag.  I have the brass engine I.D. tag (with pins) too.  The engine I bought these for has long since disappeared in an engine trade gone bad involving a collector from Maine.  If someone is rebuilding a baby Herc, and needs these parts, I will let them go cheap.  Contact me off list.


Nels Johnsrud
Manitowoc WI
gop4evr at lsol.net








From gop4evr at lsol.net  Fri Nov  9 08:51:27 2012
From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 08:51:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo 2013
In-Reply-To: <8098a2c08e28ac3d25929ed7c31425f2.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <92E33CE6-4641-4AA2-ABFC-AC741E09AC1D@lsol.net>
	<8098a2c08e28ac3d25929ed7c31425f2.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <1352479887.92026.YahooMailNeo@web142704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Thanks Arnie. ?I took Vacation for that Thursday and Friday, and we plan to do just as you say - Friday through Sunday. ?I'll look into the Motel 6 to see if there is a vacancy.

?
Nels



>________________________________
> From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> 
>Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 2:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Baraboo 2013
> 
>Nels,
>
>You should really plan on being there for Fri-Sun.
>The last few years a number of us have been staying at the Motel 6.
>http://www.motel6.com/reservations/motel_detail.aspx?num=4281
>It's cheap and very close to the showgrounds.
>
>See ya,? Arnie
>
>On Thu, November 8, 2012 1:41 pm, Nelson Johnsrud wrote:
>> For those attending Next summer's show in Baraboo, WI --
>> I am starting to reserve vacation days for next year, and I have set aside
>> the Baraboo weekend in August.? We will be calling this week to make motel
>> reservations.? Is there a preferred lodging for the group, or should I
>> just take pot luck?
>>
>> There always seems to be something coming up to keep me away from that
>> show, so I am determined to get there this year.? Add to that the fact
>> that I was not feeling very good the last time I did get there.? I need to
>> plan ahead and enjoy!
>>
>>
>> Nels Johnsrud
>> Manitowoc WI
>> gop4evr at lsol.net
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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>
>
>

From bboyce at swat.coop  Fri Nov  9 12:07:41 2012
From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 14:07:41 -0600
Subject: [SEL] 7 inch rod journal bearing
Message-ID: <7996C07B62DE4AF1AEDBABA7729163E1@billPC>

hello all,,
i'm looking for some suggestions for a bearing repair. i need to have a connecting rod bearing re-babbitted,,, the appx size is about 7 inches on the crank pin dia. and appx 7 inches in width.  there are brass shells the babbitt will be poured onto,,,,,
has anyone had a repair like this done lately? and where is a good place to send it for repair?
any ideas would be appreciated,,,
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Nov  9 13:22:36 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 16:22:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] 7 inch rod journal bearing
In-Reply-To: <7996C07B62DE4AF1AEDBABA7729163E1@billPC>
References: <7996C07B62DE4AF1AEDBABA7729163E1@billPC>
Message-ID: <f2f238e317bcc1699264bcdce1f9e28f.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

Hi Bill,

You may have better luck posting this question to the OFES.
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=43

They typically need to pour the larger bearings.

Have you totally ruled out pouring the bearing yourself?
Craig Prucha did a series of BIG engine restoration videos
that included details on pouring LARGE bearings.  You may
be able to purchase them on DVD from Coolspring.

The Magnolia Metal Bearing Book is another awesome resource
for anyone pouring their own bearings.
http://www.metalwebnews.org/ftp/bearing-book.pdf

Good luck.  Be sure to take loads of pictures and post the
results here.

See ya,  Arnie

On Fri, November 9, 2012 3:07 pm, bill boyce wrote:
> hello all,,
> i'm looking for some suggestions for a bearing repair. i need to have a
> connecting rod bearing re-babbitted,,, the appx size is about 7 inches on
> the crank pin dia. and appx 7 inches in width.  there are brass shells the
> babbitt will be poured onto,,,,,
> has anyone had a repair like this done lately? and where is a good place
> to send it for repair?
> any ideas would be appreciated,,,
> bill boyce
> lost prairie, arkansas




From rob at rustyiron.com  Fri Nov  9 13:55:03 2012
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:55:03 -0800
Subject: [SEL] 7 inch rod journal bearing
In-Reply-To: <7996C07B62DE4AF1AEDBABA7729163E1@billPC>
References: <7996C07B62DE4AF1AEDBABA7729163E1@billPC>
Message-ID: <48AA9DE1-8295-482E-80DA-7C853F5711BB@rustyiron.com>


On Nov 9, 2012, at 12:07 PM, bill boyce <bboyce at swat.coop> wrote:

> hello all,,
> i'm looking for some suggestions for a bearing repair. i need to have a connecting rod bearing re-babbitted,,, the appx size is about 7 inches on the crank pin dia. and appx 7 inches in width.  there are brass shells the babbitt will be poured onto,,,,,
> has anyone had a repair like this done lately? and where is a good place to send it for repair?
> any ideas would be appreciated,,,
> 

Arnie?s right. You should do it yourself. I?ve never done anything that big, but it?s not brain surgery. 





From camanedwina at hotmail.com  Fri Nov  9 15:05:27 2012
From: camanedwina at hotmail.com (cameron_edwina grundy)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 10:05:27 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Some video taken at the 100th Lake Goldsmith Rally
In-Reply-To: <CCC33AAC.F681%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CCC33AAC.F681%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT120-DS1438D75B7D260BDA51C5C6BF680@phx.gbl>

Brilliant Mate.
Cam

-----Original Message----- 
From: Patrick Livingstone 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:56 PM 
To: ATIS ; Oldengine 
Subject: [SEL] Some video taken at the 100th Lake Goldsmith Rally 

Austral Oil Engine No.226. The only known flyball governed Austral
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CRr41jNGHY

1903 10hp Coulson "Simplex" Oil Engine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IfKvNTnPKM

Excelsior built by Philip Rayson Melbourne.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsUcTKZ_Ehw

Harris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxyk59r6TD0

T. Melvin & Son, Glasgow. 2.5hp c1896
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEqPs3EBRVk

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html



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Cam Grundy
camaned at hotmail.com
Mob 0409250803


From jbcast at charter.net  Fri Nov  9 16:02:10 2012
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 19:02:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] 7 inch rod journal bearing
Message-ID: <35edc1c3.11c7fa.13ae79fa5d9.Webtop.47@charter.net>

When the local sugar mill was open I would stop by and see what was 
going on in the machine shop. The mill bearings were on 18" shafts. They 
would tin them with acid core solder paste and re babbitt them with a 
babbitt wire, looked like solder. He would use a torch and melt it on 
like you would with a brazing rod, they would mount it in the big 
Cincinati Mill and bore them. When the mill closed I picked up a roll of 
the babbitt, if you want to try it I can send you some.
J.B. Castagnos


On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM, bill boyce wrote:

> hello all,,
> i'm looking for some suggestions for a bearing repair. i need to have 
> a connecting rod bearing re-babbitted,,, the appx size is about 7 
> inches on the crank pin dia. and appx 7 inches in width.  there are 
> brass shells the babbitt will be poured onto,,,,,
> has anyone had a repair like this done lately? and where is a good 
> place to send it for repair?
> any ideas would be appreciated,,,
> bill boyce
> lost prairie, arkansas
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com  Sat Nov 10 00:49:53 2012
From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:49:53 +0000
Subject: [SEL] 7 inch rod journal bearing
In-Reply-To: <35edc1c3.11c7fa.13ae79fa5d9.Webtop.47@charter.net>
References: <35edc1c3.11c7fa.13ae79fa5d9.Webtop.47@charter.net>
Message-ID: <SNT107-W187ABF9356E70E0E429761D06F0@phx.gbl>


Totally agree it's not rocket science!  The last one I did needed 15 thou so I tinned the shells and wiped the babbit on . Very pleased with result.  John

> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 19:02:10 -0500
> From: jbcast at charter.net
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] 7 inch rod journal bearing
> 
> When the local sugar mill was open I would stop by and see what was 
> going on in the machine shop. The mill bearings were on 18" shafts. They 
> would tin them with acid core solder paste and re babbitt them with a 
> babbitt wire, looked like solder. He would use a torch and melt it on 
> like you would with a brazing rod, they would mount it in the big 
> Cincinati Mill and bore them. When the mill closed I picked up a roll of 
> the babbitt, if you want to try it I can send you some.
> J.B. Castagnos
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM, bill boyce wrote:
> 
> > hello all,,
> > i'm looking for some suggestions for a bearing repair. i need to have 
> > a connecting rod bearing re-babbitted,,, the appx size is about 7 
> > inches on the crank pin dia. and appx 7 inches in width.  there are 
> > brass shells the babbitt will be poured onto,,,,,
> > has anyone had a repair like this done lately? and where is a good 
> > place to send it for repair?
> > any ideas would be appreciated,,,
> > bill boyce
> > lost prairie, arkansas
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From gop4evr at lsol.net  Sat Nov 10 04:56:06 2012
From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 06:56:06 -0600
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2 hp Hercules E parts
In-Reply-To: <0300CA23-117C-4524-8AD4-A14A8DE71D77@lsol.net>
References: <0300CA23-117C-4524-8AD4-A14A8DE71D77@lsol.net>
Message-ID: <B6423C56-3CF0-41D0-AA4F-B51D7C851DBE@lsol.net>

I've had several responses to this, but unfortunately I only have the one set, and it has been sold.  Thanks!


Nels Johnsrud
Manitowoc WI
gop4evr at lsol.net




On Nov 9, 2012, at 10:22 AM, Nelson Johnsrud <gop4evr at lsol.net> wrote:

> I was rooting around in my garage yesterday and I found an interesting package.  In it are a brand new set of rings, head gasket, igniter gasket, and "Hercules" decals for a 1-1/2 hp model E Hercules engine.  There is even a new set of 'spring hook' roller bushings for the Webster mag.  I have the brass engine I.D. tag (with pins) too.  The engine I bought these for has long since disappeared in an engine trade gone bad involving a collector from Maine.  If someone is rebuilding a baby Herc, and needs these parts, I will let them go cheap.  Contact me off list.
> 
> 
> Nels Johnsrud
> Manitowoc WI
> gop4evr at lsol.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From avanti_64 at juno.com  Sat Nov 10 04:59:09 2012
From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:59:09 GMT
Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Re=3A__Some_video_taken_at_the_100th?=
	=?iso-8859-1?q?_Lake_Goldsmith_Rally?=
Message-ID: <20121110.075909.18439.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com>

Thanks Patrick, nice stuff!
Joe
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From maytagtwin at aol.com  Sat Nov 10 12:39:04 2012
From: maytagtwin at aol.com (maytagtwin at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 15:39:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2 hp Hercules E parts
In-Reply-To: <B6423C56-3CF0-41D0-AA4F-B51D7C851DBE@lsol.net>
References: <0300CA23-117C-4524-8AD4-A14A8DE71D77@lsol.net>
	<B6423C56-3CF0-41D0-AA4F-B51D7C851DBE@lsol.net>
Message-ID: <8CF8D9A8EE283C6-7B4-34AD2@webmail-m015.sysops.aol.com>


Thanks.  I am not surprised that it is gone as I was late in responding. 
Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: Nelson Johnsrud <gop4evr at lsol.net>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:00 am
Subject: Re: [SEL] 1-1/2 hp Hercules E parts


I've had several responses to this, but unfortunately I only have the one set, 
and it has been sold.  Thanks!


Nels Johnsrud
Manitowoc WI
gop4evr at lsol.net




On Nov 9, 2012, at 10:22 AM, Nelson Johnsrud <gop4evr at lsol.net> wrote:

> I was rooting around in my garage yesterday and I found an interesting 
package.  In it are a brand new set of rings, head gasket, igniter gasket, and 
"Hercules" decals for a 1-1/2 hp model E Hercules engine.  There is even a new 
set of 'spring hook' roller bushings for the Webster mag.  I have the brass 
engine I.D. tag (with pins) too.  The engine I bought these for has long since 
disappeared in an engine trade gone bad involving a collector from Maine.  If 
someone is rebuilding a baby Herc, and needs these parts, I will let them go 
cheap.  Contact me off list.
> 
> 
> Nels Johnsrud
> Manitowoc WI
> gop4evr at lsol.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sat Nov 10 16:33:43 2012
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:33:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Is the underground railroad still alive and working? Need
	transportation
Message-ID: <1352594023.77179.YahooMailRC@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Folks due to illness, raising two grandsons, and lack of funds to pay bills I 
had to sell off all my old engines for income. My good friend, Larry Kastens, 
who lives in in Hereford, AZ has offered to give me a Hercules 1-1/2 engine and 
a Fairbanks Morse Eclipse if I can find transportation to get them to Arkansas. 
Is anyone going to be going or coming from anywhere close to Larry to help me 
get these closer to Arkansas.

Thanks for the help folks, I sure appreciate it.

Paul


From cgandree at mchsi.com  Sun Nov 11 06:49:52 2012
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:49:52 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo 2013
In-Reply-To: <1352479887.92026.YahooMailNeo@web142704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <547433965.733711352645392866.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

Hi Nels,
Just in case you didn't know our ATIS sel engine group has a designed spot of which I personally rope off every year just behind the main craft building.  My wife and I will be there late wednesday and be glad to help you unload your engines.  Also keep in mind on Saturday night we all meet at a local resturant to eat and drink together so plan on joining the group.  If you have any questions or need any help finding a motel nearby feel free to contact me directly.
Looking forward to seeing you,
Curt Andree









----- Original Message -----
From: "Nelson Johnsrud" <gop4evr at lsol.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 10:51:27 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [SEL] Baraboo 2013

Thanks Arnie. ?I took Vacation for that Thursday and Friday, and we plan to do just as you say - Friday through Sunday. ?I'll look into the Motel 6 to see if there is a vacancy.

?
Nels



>________________________________
> From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> 
>Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 2:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Baraboo 2013
> 
>Nels,
>
>You should really plan on being there for Fri-Sun.
>The last few years a number of us have been staying at the Motel 6.
>http://www.motel6.com/reservations/motel_detail.aspx?num=4281
>It's cheap and very close to the showgrounds.
>
>See ya,? Arnie
>
>On Thu, November 8, 2012 1:41 pm, Nelson Johnsrud wrote:
>> For those attending Next summer's show in Baraboo, WI --
>> I am starting to reserve vacation days for next year, and I have set aside
>> the Baraboo weekend in August.? We will be calling this week to make motel
>> reservations.? Is there a preferred lodging for the group, or should I
>> just take pot luck?
>>
>> There always seems to be something coming up to keep me away from that
>> show, so I am determined to get there this year.? Add to that the fact
>> that I was not feeling very good the last time I did get there.? I need to
>> plan ahead and enjoy!
>>
>>
>> Nels Johnsrud
>> Manitowoc WI
>> gop4evr at lsol.net
>
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From curt at rustyiron.com  Sun Nov 11 19:59:20 2012
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 22:59:20 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 7 inch rod journal bearing
In-Reply-To: <48AA9DE1-8295-482E-80DA-7C853F5711BB@rustyiron.com>
References: <7996C07B62DE4AF1AEDBABA7729163E1@billPC>
	<48AA9DE1-8295-482E-80DA-7C853F5711BB@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <94e7e3b91bd863a77e9a9e898499483e.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>


Bill,
Ditto on Arnie and Rob. You can do this.

Here is a small one we did a while back. Scroll down to the 6/24/05 date
for the babbitt and rod work. Same principles apply.

<http://oldengine.org/members/holland/images/DevinsBakerMonitorRebuild/Thumbnails.html>

Curt Holland
Bessemer City, NC

>
> On Nov 9, 2012, at 12:07 PM, bill boyce <bboyce at swat.coop> wrote:
>
>> hello all,,
>> i'm looking for some suggestions for a bearing repair. i need to have a
>> connecting rod bearing re-babbitted,,, the appx size is about 7 inches
>> on the crank pin dia. and appx 7 inches in width.  there are brass
>> shells the babbitt will be poured onto,,,,,
>> has anyone had a repair like this done lately? and where is a good place
>> to send it for repair?
>> any ideas would be appreciated,,,
>>
>
> Arnie?s right. You should do it yourself. I?ve never done anything that
> big, but it?s not brain surgery.
>
>
>
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From jlb94 at juno.com  Mon Nov 19 12:02:30 2012
From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:02:30 GMT
Subject: [SEL] Fw: Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
Message-ID: <20121119.150230.28463.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>

This shit really pisses me off - - - Every time I try to send to the SEL , it's the SAME SHIT !!!


Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
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 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/       If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.
 (_0_)            "In memory of Bre-Dog"  
                                                          

                                



---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
To: jlb94 at juno.com
Subject: Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:52:18 -0500

Your mail to 'SEL' with the subject

   FW: Blown glass steam engine.

Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

The reason it is being held:

   Message has implicit destination

Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
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From wilson at stny.rr.com  Mon Nov 19 12:29:12 2012
From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:29:12 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Fw: Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
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References: <20121119.150230.28463.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <2C96CD0A-9C3D-4066-BEBE-DA294E784E14@stny.rr.com>



Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 19, 2012, at 8:02 PM, "jlb94 at juno.com" <jlb94 at juno.com> wrote:

This shit really pisses me off - - - Every time I try to send to the SEL , it's the SAME SHIT !!!


Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
\/)"(\/       If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.
(_0_)            "In memory of Bre-Dog"  






---------- Forwarded Message ----------
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To: jlb94 at juno.com
Subject: Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:52:18 -0500

Your mail to 'SEL' with the subject

  FW: Blown glass steam engine.

Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

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From rob at rustyiron.com  Mon Nov 19 20:07:42 2012
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:07:42 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
In-Reply-To: <20121119.150230.28463.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20121119.150230.28463.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <D8970413-1088-403B-8EA8-D5641D43E936@rustyiron.com>


On Nov 19, 2012, at 12:02 PM, jlb94 at juno.com wrote:

> This shit really pisses me off - - - Every time I try to send to the SEL , it's the SAME SHIT !!!

> 

>> The reason it is being held:
>> 
>>   Message has implicit destination




I wonder if the list moderator gets as pissed off because you keep doing the same thing wrong, time and time again. 








From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Mon Nov 19 21:35:55 2012
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 16:35:55 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
References: <20121119.150230.28463.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>
	<D8970413-1088-403B-8EA8-D5641D43E936@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <431B2AB57773429FAA2FFAA5756A87B9@regpc>

Rob. Perhaps, as YOU understand it, you should be a helper to "us old farts 
who are struggling" ?
The 'net' to a lot of us, is a "fog" that we see through now and then.
I, when I stayed with you and Kellie, was blown away by how far ahead of me, 
you were with computers.
I struggle with what you might regard as 'Basics'.
A lot of the time, I just dump stuff cos it "WONT GO"
(Thoughts of an "OLD FART") Grin.
Reg.
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Skinner" <rob at rustyiron.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -


>
> On Nov 19, 2012, at 12:02 PM, jlb94 at juno.com wrote:
>
>> This shit really pisses me off - - - Every time I try to send to the SEL 
>> , it's the SAME SHIT !!!
>
>>
>
>>> The reason it is being held:
>>>
>>>   Message has implicit destination
>
>
>
>
> I wonder if the list moderator gets as pissed off because you keep doing 
> the same thing wrong, time and time again.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Nov 20 08:08:02 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:08:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
In-Reply-To: <D8970413-1088-403B-8EA8-D5641D43E936@rustyiron.com>
References: <20121119.150230.28463.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>
	<D8970413-1088-403B-8EA8-D5641D43E936@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <2b61af5da7051dd1c2732b3e997b11d4.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

It is well known that SEL email cannot have ANY attachments
and OldEngine email cannot have ANY large attachments.

On Mon, November 19, 2012 11:07 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:
>
> On Nov 19, 2012, at 12:02 PM, jlb94 at juno.com wrote:
>
>> This shit really pisses me off - - - Every time I try to send to the SEL
>> , it's the SAME SHIT !!!
>
>
> I wonder if the list moderator gets as pissed off because you keep doing
> the same thing wrong, time and time again.
>




From rob at rustyiron.com  Tue Nov 20 08:45:47 2012
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 08:45:47 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
In-Reply-To: <431B2AB57773429FAA2FFAA5756A87B9@regpc>
References: <20121119.150230.28463.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>
	<D8970413-1088-403B-8EA8-D5641D43E936@rustyiron.com>
	<431B2AB57773429FAA2FFAA5756A87B9@regpc>
Message-ID: <3D9A931B-BB40-4300-BE12-828073E788FB@rustyiron.com>


On Nov 19, 2012, at 9:35 PM, "Reg Ingold"  wrote:

>  you should be a helper to "us old farts who are struggling? ?


No problem, mate. All you gotta do is ask.

http://bit.ly/10n49xl





















From yostsw at atis.net  Tue Nov 20 10:24:38 2012
From: yostsw at atis.net (Spencer Yost)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:24:38 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
In-Reply-To: <431B2AB57773429FAA2FFAA5756A87B9@regpc>
References: <20121119.150230.28463.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>
	<D8970413-1088-403B-8EA8-D5641D43E936@rustyiron.com>
	<431B2AB57773429FAA2FFAA5756A87B9@regpc>
Message-ID: <7849565F-B31F-4B7F-B871-1C78BB29F64A@atis.net>

Your messages are often rejected because they have an "implicit destination".  All that means is your messages are not explicitly addressed to the list.   This can happen when you send the message to the list as a blind carbon copy(e.g. "BCC") or you asked your email package to "hide all recipients".  Often messages forwarded to the list from others will end up using "undisclosed recipients".   This rule was created to catch spam created viruses on members computers.  It is actually one of the most important in preventing spam to the list(besides requiring membership)

I hope this helps, 

Spencer



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From jlb94 at juno.com  Tue Nov 20 12:24:28 2012
From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:24:28 GMT
Subject: [SEL] Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
Message-ID: <20121120.152428.22136.1@webmail05.vgs.untd.com>

Thanks, Spencer for your reply.
The next time I want to share something with the list, I'll send it to someone you know !!!



Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
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 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/       If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.
 (_0_)            "In memory of Bre-Dog"  
                                                          

                                



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Spencer Yost <yostsw at atis.net>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:24:38 -0500

Your messages are often rejected because they have an "implicit destination".  All that means is your messages are not explicitly addressed to the list.   This can happen when you send the message to the list as a blind carbon copy(e.g. "BCC") or you asked your email package to "hide all recipients".  Often messages forwarded to the list from others will end up using "undisclosed recipients".   This rule was created to catch spam created viruses on members computers.  It is actually one of the most important in preventing spam to the list(besides requiring membership)

I hope this helps, 

Spencer



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From jlb94 at juno.com  Tue Nov 20 12:27:35 2012
From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:27:35 GMT
Subject: [SEL] Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
Message-ID: <20121120.152735.22136.2@webmail05.vgs.untd.com>

Thanks Arnie,  
Then no one will be able to see that because of some bullshit rule.



Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/       If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.
 (_0_)            "In memory of Bre-Dog"  
                                                          

                                



---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:08:02 -0500 (EST)

It is well known that SEL email cannot have ANY attachments
and OldEngine email cannot have ANY large attachments.

On Mon, November 19, 2012 11:07 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:
>
> On Nov 19, 2012, at 12:02 PM, jlb94 at juno.com wrote:
>
>> This shit really pisses me off - - - Every time I try to send to the SEL
>> , it's the SAME SHIT !!!
>
>
> I wonder if the list moderator gets as pissed off because you keep doing
> the same thing wrong, time and time again.
>


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From rustyiron1 at bigpond.com  Tue Nov 20 23:49:39 2012
From: rustyiron1 at bigpond.com (Andy Nicholson)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:49:39 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Decal's
Message-ID: <BF3E495E301645E8AC4A1AEE6F4507AD@owner916e4fa44>

Hello, Hope some one can help, I'm looking for a McCormick-deering Decal.
It has to be Diamond shaped, about 7" long 2 1/2" high.
I've only seen pictures, and they wer'nt any good, so I can't use them as a template.
Has any one any idea's?

Andy.....
Qld Aust

From enginepaul at gmail.com  Wed Nov 21 14:02:43 2012
From: enginepaul at gmail.com (STRAIGHT from SanFran)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:02:43 -0800
Subject: [SEL] For Arnie and any energy and/or tax buffs
Message-ID: <CAMuKiUDFZCXPeSp6zuVJQAtRk+iRspq3s7g2u3D5QfK654zR+w@mail.gmail.com>

Arnie:

I went to hear a speaker talk about the Lawrence Livermore fusion
program. He told us how we were months away from the big breakthrough.
A guy in the audience said we were always just near the end - for the
last 50 years.

These future generating plants will have to be very large; they can't
be made small like some of the nuke plants. That seems to me that we
will need more and longer power lines that are forbidden here in
California. I forgot to ask if the electricity will be laser delivered
too, so we can solve that problem.

They just finished a 3+ $Billion building and things are all ready to
go. They couldn't give us any idea about how much was already spent to
get to this stage; but they only need money for a while longer. (I'm
guessing the money will last until they need some more; but I'm not a
scientist, just a tax-payer.)

A guy pointed out how Government dollars are well spent because we
wouldn't have gotten this far without those tax dollars being plowed
in. But the speaker said private industry was where they got the
needed laser developments to be this far along. One of the industries
was the hair removal industry.

So someday you will hit the light switch and the fusion generated
light will allow you to see your hairless mate without getting grossed
out. Worth several $Billion. I guess.

Paul - Generating a headache


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Nov 21 14:39:40 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:39:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] For Arnie and any energy and/or tax buffs
In-Reply-To: <CAMuKiUDFZCXPeSp6zuVJQAtRk+iRspq3s7g2u3D5QfK654zR+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMuKiUDFZCXPeSp6zuVJQAtRk+iRspq3s7g2u3D5QfK654zR+w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9e554da6c5e7d9a9b3f3baf7dcfbf02e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

Whew.  You had me worried for a minute there Paul.
I was afraid you were going to tell me that I'd flip that
light switch and all my hair would fall out.  8-))

BTW, the ol' transmission line NIMBY issue isn't unique
to Kalifornia.  Germany probably has the most ambitious
wind power program in Europe.  Heavily government
subsidized.

The problem is that the wind power is in the north.
The heavy industrial demand for electricity is in the south.
The region in the middle are all the touristy bits where
NO ONE dares to put transmission lines.

Anyone see a problem there?

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, November 21, 2012 5:02 pm, STRAIGHT from SanFran wrote:
> Arnie:
>
> I went to hear a speaker talk about the Lawrence Livermore fusion
> program. He told us how we were months away from the big breakthrough.
> A guy in the audience said we were always just near the end - for the
> last 50 years.
>
> These future generating plants will have to be very large; they can't
> be made small like some of the nuke plants. That seems to me that we
> will need more and longer power lines that are forbidden here in
> California. I forgot to ask if the electricity will be laser delivered
> too, so we can solve that problem.
>
> They just finished a 3+ $Billion building and things are all ready to
> go. They couldn't give us any idea about how much was already spent to
> get to this stage; but they only need money for a while longer. (I'm
> guessing the money will last until they need some more; but I'm not a
> scientist, just a tax-payer.)
>
> A guy pointed out how Government dollars are well spent because we
> wouldn't have gotten this far without those tax dollars being plowed
> in. But the speaker said private industry was where they got the
> needed laser developments to be this far along. One of the industries
> was the hair removal industry.
>
> So someday you will hit the light switch and the fusion generated
> light will allow you to see your hairless mate without getting grossed
> out. Worth several $Billion. I guess.
>
> Paul - Generating a headache
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>




From enginepaul at gmail.com  Wed Nov 21 18:51:53 2012
From: enginepaul at gmail.com (STRAIGHT from SanFran)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:51:53 -0800
Subject: [SEL] For Arnie and any energy and/or tax buffs
In-Reply-To: <9e554da6c5e7d9a9b3f3baf7dcfbf02e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <CAMuKiUDFZCXPeSp6zuVJQAtRk+iRspq3s7g2u3D5QfK654zR+w@mail.gmail.com>
	<9e554da6c5e7d9a9b3f3baf7dcfbf02e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <CAMuKiUCODKsydRjBm=bLyOGHvVk2+M0swEXTsvx0q2+2gU3cKA@mail.gmail.com>

Forgot about the solar stuff that was discussed by another informal group there.

More than one physicist says solar power generation is limited and
will never drop enough in price to be worthwhile.

The SanFran Bay Area may be the roof mounted solar capital of the
world and some items brought up are:

Most owners that can afford solar, even with subsidies, will never
live long enough for the pay back, They usually find this out well
after they buy. It seems that "pays for itself" means that the buyer
pays and waits.

Solar is heavy and roofs usually need reinforcement to support the weight.

An architect pointed out - here in earthquake country - that a heavier
roof would require stronger framing and anchors and bracing for
seismic reinforcing. Nobody there knew if they did that.

Paul - still buying electricity.



On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
> Whew.  You had me worried for a minute there Paul.
> I was afraid you were going to tell me that I'd flip that
> light switch and all my hair would fall out.  8-))
>
> BTW, the ol' transmission line NIMBY issue isn't unique
> to Kalifornia.  Germany probably has the most ambitious
> wind power program in Europe.  Heavily government
> subsidized.
>
> The problem is that the wind power is in the north.
> The heavy industrial demand for electricity is in the south.
> The region in the middle are all the touristy bits where
> NO ONE dares to put transmission lines.
>
> Anyone see a problem there?
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> On Wed, November 21, 2012 5:02 pm, STRAIGHT from SanFran wrote:
>> Arnie:
>>
>> I went to hear a speaker talk about the Lawrence Livermore fusion
>> program. He told us how we were months away from the big breakthrough.
>> A guy in the audience said we were always just near the end - for the
>> last 50 years.
>>
>> These future generating plants will have to be very large; they can't
>> be made small like some of the nuke plants. That seems to me that we
>> will need more and longer power lines that are forbidden here in
>> California. I forgot to ask if the electricity will be laser delivered
>> too, so we can solve that problem.
>>
>> They just finished a 3+ $Billion building and things are all ready to
>> go. They couldn't give us any idea about how much was already spent to
>> get to this stage; but they only need money for a while longer. (I'm
>> guessing the money will last until they need some more; but I'm not a
>> scientist, just a tax-payer.)
>>
>> A guy pointed out how Government dollars are well spent because we
>> wouldn't have gotten this far without those tax dollars being plowed
>> in. But the speaker said private industry was where they got the
>> needed laser developments to be this far along. One of the industries
>> was the hair removal industry.
>>
>> So someday you will hit the light switch and the fusion generated
>> light will allow you to see your hairless mate without getting grossed
>> out. Worth several $Billion. I guess.
>>
>> Paul - Generating a headache
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
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From rotigel at me.com  Thu Nov 22 18:54:25 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 21:54:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] =?windows-1252?q?This_Event=85=2E?=
Message-ID: <56510B51-A14E-4BB8-8C8C-CCCBE1FA9BF9@me.com>

?. brought to you by? the chiropractors association of Sweden. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=mqxuEpgQ_FE&NR=1
	Dave



From rotigel at me.com  Thu Nov 22 18:56:28 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 21:56:28 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Mid-life Tractor Crisis
References: <001d01cdc908$f8241cd0$e86c5670$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F2973840-85B9-4893-8E75-9548DC19F973@me.com>

> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9yHl24QynOM
	Dave



From russell at ncable.com.au  Thu Nov 22 20:33:56 2012
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 15:33:56 +1100
Subject: [SEL] =?windows-1252?q?This_Event=85=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <56510B51-A14E-4BB8-8C8C-CCCBE1FA9BF9@me.com>
References: <56510B51-A14E-4BB8-8C8C-CCCBE1FA9BF9@me.com>
Message-ID: <761EE895-ED1F-43FD-AC15-DAECD7AEBE2A@ncable.com.au>

a very dangerous job that cooking job; as one can tell due to the Hi Vizz jackets they have on. 

Russ


On 23/11/2012, at 1:54 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:

> ?. brought to you by? the chiropractors association of Sweden. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=mqxuEpgQ_FE&NR=1
> 	Dave
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Nov 22 20:49:28 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:49:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Mid-life Tractor Crisis
In-Reply-To: <F2973840-85B9-4893-8E75-9548DC19F973@me.com>
References: <001d01cdc908$f8241cd0$e86c5670$@gmail.com>
	<F2973840-85B9-4893-8E75-9548DC19F973@me.com>
Message-ID: <b592c456d7d8cd26fe203ae93e91e78b.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com>

I think he needs to tighten his exhaust pipe mountings...

On Thu, November 22, 2012 9:56 pm, Dave Rotigel wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9yHl24QynOM





From rotigel at me.com  Thu Nov 22 21:02:10 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 00:02:10 -0500
Subject: [SEL] =?windows-1252?q?This_Event=85=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <761EE895-ED1F-43FD-AC15-DAECD7AEBE2A@ncable.com.au>
References: <56510B51-A14E-4BB8-8C8C-CCCBE1FA9BF9@me.com>
	<761EE895-ED1F-43FD-AC15-DAECD7AEBE2A@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <3343348C-B334-45B0-A74E-66B798493DC1@me.com>

I was MOST impressed by the use of a thermo-gun to measure the "wellness" of the burgers! Did those cooks work for you at one time?
	Dave


On Nov 22, 2012, at 11:33 PM, Russell wrote:

> a very dangerous job that cooking job; as one can tell due to the Hi Vizz jackets they have on. 
> 
> Russ
> 
> 
> On 23/11/2012, at 1:54 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:
> 
>> ?. brought to you by? the chiropractors association of Sweden. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=mqxuEpgQ_FE&NR=1
>> 	Dave
>> 
>> __



From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 23 07:20:47 2012
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 07:20:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] =?utf-8?b?VGhpcyBFdmVudOKApi4=?=
In-Reply-To: <761EE895-ED1F-43FD-AC15-DAECD7AEBE2A@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <1353684047.1724.YahooMailClassic@web111710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

At 1:18 is that Dave arriving in the pink limo?????
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Thu, 11/22/12, Russell <russell at ncable.com.au> wrote:


From: Russell <russell at ncable.com.au>
Subject: Re: [SEL] This Event?.
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Thursday, November 22, 2012, 11:33 PM


a very dangerous job that cooking job; as one can tell due to the Hi Vizz jackets they have on. 

Russ


On 23/11/2012, at 1:54 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:

> ?. brought to you by? the chiropractors association of Sweden. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=mqxuEpgQ_FE&NR=1
> ??? Dave
> 
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Nov 23 18:02:06 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 21:02:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?This_Event=E2=80=A6=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <1353684047.1724.YahooMailClassic@web111710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1353684047.1724.YahooMailClassic@web111710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6c8136f1f2deabff446c6b5dd531243e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

If it is, he's riding with Bambi & Nitro...

On Fri, November 23, 2012 10:20 am, Alan wrote:
> At 1:18 is that Dave arriving in the pink limo?????
> ??
> Alan in Michigan
>
> --- On Thu, 11/22/12, Russell <russell at ncable.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> From: Russell <russell at ncable.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [SEL] This Event???.
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: Thursday, November 22, 2012, 11:33 PM
>
>
> a very dangerous job that cooking job; as one can tell due to the Hi Vizz
> jackets they have on.
>
> Russ
>
>
> On 23/11/2012, at 1:54 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:
>
>> ???. brought to you by??? the chiropractors association of Sweden. See:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=mqxuEpgQ_FE&NR=1
>> ?????? Dave
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>




From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Nov 23 18:42:10 2012
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:42:10 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Prices on ebay
Message-ID: <8FD75254EF3E4B3484B66B1EACBCB556@clientsbfbec0d>

I have a few manuals and books on Ebay, one item it still available from Plough Book Sales here in Oz for $11, the bids at the moment are $67. Must be a hobby newbie.
It is a repro ROSEBERY TYPE C - 2,3,4,6HP INSTRUCTION BOOK, nothing special. 

Peter

From russell at ncable.com.au  Fri Nov 23 19:27:01 2012
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:27:01 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Prices on ebay
In-Reply-To: <8FD75254EF3E4B3484B66B1EACBCB556@clientsbfbec0d>
References: <8FD75254EF3E4B3484B66B1EACBCB556@clientsbfbec0d>
Message-ID: <9D935CC1-7E8E-41DB-B097-AF64E138C6B2@ncable.com.au>

Peter around 4 months ago I saw a 1905 Hornsby booklet; (36 page, original with great hi quality photos and good info) on ebay. I am a keen hornsby collector and did not have anything like that. I had an idea on value for this being around $75 to $85.00 Well I thought it would go at a hi price but I really wanted it so I had a proper crack at it and won it. I paid $180 dollars for it. Well above my idea on price which within a few engine mates cop plenty of slack and sledging for my behaviour. Well bugger me if the same booklet has just been completed again on ebay -  see below

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/281020933536?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_620wt_1167

$1009.00 dollars .................. WOW WEEE .......

My wife has suggested I put mine back up with a $750 by it now. 
You just never know whats going to happen on ebay I tell you.
regards Russell

PS: I'll keep my copy .........



On 24/11/2012, at 1:42 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:

> I have a few manuals and books on Ebay, one item it still available from Plough Book Sales here in Oz for $11, the bids at the moment are $67. Must be a hobby newbie.
> It is a repro ROSEBERY TYPE C - 2,3,4,6HP INSTRUCTION BOOK, nothing special. 
> 
> Peter
> _______________________________________________
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Nov 23 20:01:05 2012
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:01:05 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Prices on ebay
References: <8FD75254EF3E4B3484B66B1EACBCB556@clientsbfbec0d>
	<9D935CC1-7E8E-41DB-B097-AF64E138C6B2@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <F5557F0E3EFA426DB92D999850FDD39B@clientsbfbec0d>

Hi Russell
Yes it can go crazy, we bought an R&V catalog for $800, had if 
proffessionaly re-printed, sold 50 copies, the guy that bankrolled the deal 
got the original and we got copies at $50ea. Hard to tell the copies from 
the original except that it had re-printed and the date inside to cover. 
Curt Andree and others helped with this deal.
There were a few of us bidding agianst each other, so rather than just 
jacking the price we still got copies, I only wanted the R&V info, not the 
original.
Peter


> Peter around 4 months ago I saw a 1905 Hornsby booklet; (36 page, original 
> with great hi quality photos and good info) on ebay. I am a keen hornsby 
> collector and did not have anything like that. I had an idea on value for 
> this being around $75 to $85.00 Well I thought it would go at a hi price 
> but I really wanted it so I had a proper crack at it and won it. I paid 
> $180 dollars for it. Well above my idea on price which within a few engine 
> mates cop plenty of slack and sledging for my behaviour. Well bugger me if 
> the same booklet has just been completed again on ebay -  see below
>
> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/281020933536?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_620wt_1167
>
> $1009.00 dollars .................. WOW WEEE .......
>
> My wife has suggested I put mine back up with a $750 by it now.
> You just never know whats going to happen on ebay I tell you.
> regards Russell
>
> PS: I'll keep my copy .........
>
>
>
> On 24/11/2012, at 1:42 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>
>> I have a few manuals and books on Ebay, one item it still available from 
>> Plough Book Sales here in Oz for $11, the bids at the moment are $67. 
>> Must be a hobby newbie.
>> It is a repro ROSEBERY TYPE C - 2,3,4,6HP INSTRUCTION BOOK, nothing 
>> special.
>>
>> Peter
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sat Nov 24 17:40:32 2012
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 17:40:32 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Feed grinder cutters
Message-ID: <20121124.174128.1555.21330@mailpop04.vgs.untd.com>

Hi all.
I have an old feed grinder that I have had for over 25 years.  When I got
it one cutter was missing and the other was broken with just one section
there.  I finally decided to get it going.  It appears to be a Dempster
No 1 feed grinder.  Where can I get some new cutters for it?  Thanks.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
____________________________________________________________
Woman is 53 But Looks 25
Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50b17781a1a4b77811eb7st03vuc

From rdi at rochester.rr.com  Sun Nov 25 06:05:57 2012
From: rdi at rochester.rr.com (Rick I.)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:05:57 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Prices on ebay
Message-ID: <D25381A5C8264A64A42422F2A875BFDB@marlin>

Russell writes:

>1905 Hornsby booklet...I had an idea on value for this being around $75 to 
>$85.00...I paid $180 dollars for it. Well above my idea on price... the 
>same booklet has just been completed again on ebay ...$1009.00 dollars

Wow!!  You never know what price stuff like that will go for; that seller 
just happened to hit it on the right day it seems, when 6 or 7 people all 
happened to be looking at the same time!  I have a Taylor Vacuum engine, and 
there's very little in the way of literature.  There is one rare single-page 
folded pamphlet printed yellow/green, and in about 7 years of looking, I've 
found this one for sale only 3 times, once in person, and twice on eBay.  In 
all cases it was between $35 and $38, way more than I wanted to spend for a 
single page flyer; like someone mentioned, I just wanted a copy of the info, 
not necessarily the historic pamphlet.  Well, this summer, I stumbled on 
another one on eBay- I got it for only $6.20 !!!  I guess nobody was looking 
for it when I bought it (end of May), maybe too busy working on their 
engines for the summer show season?

-Rick I.
http://www.oldengine.org/members/inzero/





From gop4evr at lsol.net  Tue Nov 27 13:46:48 2012
From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:46:48 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Auger?
Message-ID: <6E741201-77BB-464D-B472-6C092BB7DA13@lsol.net>

I have a project going that "may" be engine-related, and I need help finding something --

I need a section of about 4" diameter auger about 12-15" long.  Like what is used in grain augers.  I'm sitting here wondering what type of old iron related equipment I could procure this from.  Any ideas?  Anyone have something like this?  Off list . . . .


Nels Johnsrud
Manitowoc WI
gop4evr at lsol.net








From rdhaskell at juno.com  Tue Nov 27 19:11:04 2012
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:11:04 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Feed grinder cutters
Message-ID: <20121127.191112.1560.26405@mailpop17.vgs.untd.com>

Hi all.
Still looking for the cast iron cutting discs for my Dempster #1 feed
grinder.  Any ideas?

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
____________________________________________________________
Woman is 53 But Looks 25
Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50b58109c1df21093f84st04vuc


From curt at rustyiron.com  Tue Nov 27 19:18:26 2012
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:18:26 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Auger?
In-Reply-To: <6E741201-77BB-464D-B472-6C092BB7DA13@lsol.net>
References: <6E741201-77BB-464D-B472-6C092BB7DA13@lsol.net>
Message-ID: <2e96a678dddfa10ac291dfa2fc464f7a.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>


Nels,
Not sure what you'll be conveying, but if you don't find something ready
made, consider making your own. A round bar or pipe and a hand full of
doughnut rings of sheetmetal. Cut them 4" OD and the ID to match the round
bar or pipe's OD. Then a single radial cut in each ring. Slide the rings
on the bar or pipe and stretch axially. Tack weld. Then stretch the next
and attach to the first, and so on.

I was studying how the screw conveyor under our Pangborn shot blast
machine at work was made, and this is the method they used.
Wouldn't take much to just make the short auger you are after.

Curt Holland
Bessemer City, NC

> I have a project going that "may" be engine-related, and I need help
> finding something --
>
> I need a section of about 4" diameter auger about 12-15" long.  Like what
> is used in grain augers.  I'm sitting here wondering what type of old iron
> related equipment I could procure this from.  Any ideas?  Anyone have
> something like this?  Off list . . . .
>
>
> Nels Johnsrud
> Manitowoc WI
> gop4evr at lsol.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>




From rotigel at me.com  Tue Nov 27 21:37:40 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:37:40 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Auger?
In-Reply-To: <2e96a678dddfa10ac291dfa2fc464f7a.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
References: <6E741201-77BB-464D-B472-6C092BB7DA13@lsol.net>
	<2e96a678dddfa10ac291dfa2fc464f7a.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
Message-ID: <6D8CC1BE-448D-4550-A023-739A5BB5FEC3@me.com>

Would this not start WWll all over again?
	Dave

On Nov 27, 2012, at 10:18 PM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote:

> 
>  Slide the rings on the bar or pipe and stretch axially. 


From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Tue Nov 27 22:17:37 2012
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 17:17:37 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Auger?
References: <6E741201-77BB-464D-B472-6C092BB7DA13@lsol.net><2e96a678dddfa10ac291dfa2fc464f7a.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
	<6D8CC1BE-448D-4550-A023-739A5BB5FEC3@me.com>
Message-ID: <B1CD5C5D93494F79BE984FC974EC4A8A@regpc>

Aw, Dave, mate,.................
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Auger?


> Would this not start WWll all over again?
> Dave
> 
> On Nov 27, 2012, at 10:18 PM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote:
> 
>> 
>>  Slide the rings on the bar or pipe and stretch axially. 
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From gop4evr at lsol.net  Wed Nov 28 09:51:53 2012
From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:51:53 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Auger?
In-Reply-To: <2e96a678dddfa10ac291dfa2fc464f7a.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
References: <6E741201-77BB-464D-B472-6C092BB7DA13@lsol.net>
	<2e96a678dddfa10ac291dfa2fc464f7a.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
Message-ID: <59B25C04-EC5D-4396-9F82-1B51FB7C439A@lsol.net>

Thanks Curt.  I suppose that could be done, especially since in the place I work, part of the manufacturing process begins in the machines as a round blank cut from a spool of sheet stock.  It would be a simple matter to acquire a few round blanks of an appropriate size.

I'm actually building a finished cabinet in our rear entry as a bin for storage of the wood pellets we use for heating.  Instead of a sliding door at the bottom to dump into the scuttle pail, I hit on the idea of using an auger, which has the advantage of halting the flow the moment you stop turning.  I thought there would be less opportunity for a spill.  If turning it with a crank is too time consuming or labor intensive, I have a small gear motor here that could be adapted for the purpose.  I don't want to go all Willie Wonka on this though.  A simple auger in a piece of PVC with a hand crank is simple enough, but a microprocessor controlled servo motor is probably above and beyond the call.  ;-)

And for Dave, we'll just call it my little "Manhattan Project."  ;-)


Nels Johnsrud
Manitowoc WI
gop4evr at lsol.net




On Nov 27, 2012, at 9:18 PM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote:

> 
> Nels,
> Not sure what you'll be conveying, but if you don't find something ready
> made, consider making your own. A round bar or pipe and a hand full of
> doughnut rings of sheetmetal. Cut them 4" OD and the ID to match the round
> bar or pipe's OD. Then a single radial cut in each ring. Slide the rings
> on the bar or pipe and stretch axially. Tack weld. Then stretch the next
> and attach to the first, and so on.
> 
> I was studying how the screw conveyor under our Pangborn shot blast
> machine at work was made, and this is the method they used.
> Wouldn't take much to just make the short auger you are after.
> 
> Curt Holland
> Bessemer City, NC
> 
>> I have a project going that "may" be engine-related, and I need help
>> finding something --
>> 
>> I need a section of about 4" diameter auger about 12-15" long.  Like what
>> is used in grain augers.  I'm sitting here wondering what type of old iron
>> related equipment I could procure this from.  Any ideas?  Anyone have
>> something like this?  Off list . . . .
>> 
>> 
>> Nels Johnsrud
>> Manitowoc WI
>> gop4evr at lsol.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> 
> 
> 
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From b2 at chooka.net  Wed Nov 28 12:17:49 2012
From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:17:49 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Auger?
In-Reply-To: <59B25C04-EC5D-4396-9F82-1B51FB7C439A@lsol.net>
References: <6E741201-77BB-464D-B472-6C092BB7DA13@lsol.net>	<2e96a678dddfa10ac291dfa2fc464f7a.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
	<59B25C04-EC5D-4396-9F82-1B51FB7C439A@lsol.net>
Message-ID: <002d01cdcda5$6fd9b910$4f8d2b30$@net>

Nels, small augers are a give-away at farm auctions...nobody wants them.
You'd have the whole works, including drive mechanism, all worked out that
way.  We just sold a longer version, an 8 incher and on wheels that would
reach bins, at a family estate sale.  A little patched up but still worked.
The scrap buyer got it.

Around these parts every major auction company has periodic consignment
sales, some twice a year, some every couple of months.  Seldom is there a
sale without at least one auger on it.

Bill Brueck
   Pine Island, MN USA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Nelson
Johnsrud
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 11:52 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Auger?

Thanks Curt.  I suppose that could be done, especially since in the place I
work, part of the manufacturing process begins in the machines as a round
blank cut from a spool of sheet stock.  It would be a simple matter to
acquire a few round blanks of an appropriate size.

I'm actually building a finished cabinet in our rear entry as a bin for
storage of the wood pellets we use for heating.  Instead of a sliding door
at the bottom to dump into the scuttle pail, I hit on the idea of using an
auger, which has the advantage of halting the flow the moment you stop
turning.  I thought there would be less opportunity for a spill.  If turning
it with a crank is too time consuming or labor intensive, I have a small
gear motor here that could be adapted for the purpose.  I don't want to go
all Willie Wonka on this though.  A simple auger in a piece of PVC with a
hand crank is simple enough, but a microprocessor controlled servo motor is
probably above and beyond the call.  ;-)

And for Dave, we'll just call it my little "Manhattan Project."  ;-)


Nels Johnsrud
Manitowoc WI
gop4evr at lsol.net




On Nov 27, 2012, at 9:18 PM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote:

> 
> Nels,
> Not sure what you'll be conveying, but if you don't find something 
> ready made, consider making your own. A round bar or pipe and a hand 
> full of doughnut rings of sheetmetal. Cut them 4" OD and the ID to 
> match the round bar or pipe's OD. Then a single radial cut in each 
> ring. Slide the rings on the bar or pipe and stretch axially. Tack 
> weld. Then stretch the next and attach to the first, and so on.
> 
> I was studying how the screw conveyor under our Pangborn shot blast 
> machine at work was made, and this is the method they used.
> Wouldn't take much to just make the short auger you are after.
> 
> Curt Holland
> Bessemer City, NC
> 
>> I have a project going that "may" be engine-related, and I need help 
>> finding something --
>> 
>> I need a section of about 4" diameter auger about 12-15" long.  Like 
>> what is used in grain augers.  I'm sitting here wondering what type 
>> of old iron related equipment I could procure this from.  Any ideas?  
>> Anyone have something like this?  Off list . . . .
>> 
>> 
>> Nels Johnsrud
>> Manitowoc WI
>> gop4evr at lsol.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> 
> 
> 
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From rotigel at me.com  Wed Nov 28 17:36:31 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:36:31 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Auger?
In-Reply-To: <B1CD5C5D93494F79BE984FC974EC4A8A@regpc>
References: <6E741201-77BB-464D-B472-6C092BB7DA13@lsol.net>
	<2e96a678dddfa10ac291dfa2fc464f7a.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
	<6D8CC1BE-448D-4550-A023-739A5BB5FEC3@me.com>
	<B1CD5C5D93494F79BE984FC974EC4A8A@regpc>
Message-ID: <C94C73C2-D149-4B08-BEC9-5EE4C8A2EBBE@me.com>

It's hell Reg when you and I are the only ones old enough to understand!
	Dave

On Nov 28, 2012, at 1:17 AM, Reg Ingold wrote:

> Aw, Dave, mate,.................
> Reg & Marg Ingold
> Newcastle NSW Australia
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 4:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Auger?
> 
> 
>> Would this not start WWll all over again?
>> Dave
>> 
>> On Nov 27, 2012, at 10:18 PM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Slide the rings on the bar or pipe and stretch axially. 
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From obise at moscow.com  Wed Nov 28 23:09:10 2012
From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 23:09:10 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Oldengine.org server down?
Message-ID: <50B70A16.10400@moscow.com>

I just went to take a look at some pictures that are stored on 
oldengine.org and they come up blank. Then, I tried Web sites that are 
hosted there and couldn't reach them.  Does anyone know what is wrong?

Orrin

-- 
Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.



From levans44 at roadrunner.com  Thu Nov 29 08:31:47 2012
From: levans44 at roadrunner.com (Larry Evans)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:31:47 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Oldengine.org server down?
In-Reply-To: <50B70A16.10400@moscow.com>
References: <50B70A16.10400@moscow.com>
Message-ID: <50B78DF3.1010207@roadrunner.com>

Orrin, it seems to be up and working fine now.  It probably was down for 
maintenance for awhile.

Larry

On 11/28/2012 11:09 PM, Orrin Iseminger wrote:
> I just went to take a look at some pictures that are stored on
> oldengine.org and they come up blank. Then, I tried Web sites that are
> hosted there and couldn't reach them.  Does anyone know what is wrong?
>
> Orrin
>
>    

-- 
Larry Evans
MailTo:LEVANS44 at roadrunner.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/



From obise at moscow.com  Thu Nov 29 09:17:13 2012
From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:17:13 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Oldengine.org server down?
In-Reply-To: <50B78DF3.1010207@roadrunner.com>
References: <50B70A16.10400@moscow.com> <50B78DF3.1010207@roadrunner.com>
Message-ID: <50B79899.3080600@moscow.com>

Thank you for the feedback, Larry.  It is working for me, too, this 
morning. Last night, I wasn't able to access our antique power club's 
Web site and it threw me into a panic.  I'm responsible for its upkeep.
     Best regards,
     Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.

On 11/29/2012 8:31 AM, Larry Evans wrote:
> Orrin, it seems to be up and working fine now.  It probably was down for
> maintenance for awhile.
>
> Larry
>
> On 11/28/2012 11:09 PM, Orrin Iseminger wrote:
>> I just went to take a look at some pictures that are stored on
>> oldengine.org and they come up blank. Then, I tried Web sites that are
>> hosted there and couldn't reach them.  Does anyone know what is wrong?
>>
>> Orrin
>>
>>     



From rotigel at me.com  Thu Nov  1 12:19:26 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 15:19:26 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Zolfo 2013 Dates
Message-ID: <417DCD02-DF80-45EF-8A74-D571D0FA8BFB@me.com>

Just talked to Latisha about the Pioneer Park Show (FL) dates for 2013. The dates are Feb. 27-March 3, 2013.
	Dave



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Nov  3 03:29:16 2012
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 10:29:16 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Stolen Engines - Dave Croft - Warrington UK
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00KZGrsiv0LgJRNN9gT8MNpDKfTwa2mp-DxyGoQ7R4H3RQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dave emailed me this morning to say that his outside shed was broken
into and three engines stolen, two of which are probably Danish
engines that are quite rare in the UK.

I have asked Dave for pictures to post here and on the stationary
engine forum, and with the Enstone bring and buy sale coming up next
weekend, there is a chance that these might turn up there on someone's
stall.

I have posted a brief warning on the Forum as many members will be
going to Enstone.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Nov  3 04:15:53 2012
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 11:15:53 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Stolen Engines - Dave Croft - Warrington UK
In-Reply-To: <CAMEZ00KZGrsiv0LgJRNN9gT8MNpDKfTwa2mp-DxyGoQ7R4H3RQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEZ00KZGrsiv0LgJRNN9gT8MNpDKfTwa2mp-DxyGoQ7R4H3RQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00LWUm2h4NBi_7qASLcE55q+uxT+1i_uOkni2cMd9oyrDQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 3 November 2012 10:29, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dave emailed me this morning to say that his outside shed was broken
> into and three engines stolen, two of which are probably Danish
> engines that are quite rare in the UK.

Here are pictures from Dave Croft, first one is the storage building,
second two are the engines:

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded6/Sam_0697Red.jpg

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded6/Old FF 3 HP.jpg

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded6/BLA Vertical 1.5 HP.jpg

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Nov  3 04:17:37 2012
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 11:17:37 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Stolen Engines - Dave Croft - Warrington UK
In-Reply-To: <CAMEZ00LWUm2h4NBi_7qASLcE55q+uxT+1i_uOkni2cMd9oyrDQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEZ00KZGrsiv0LgJRNN9gT8MNpDKfTwa2mp-DxyGoQ7R4H3RQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMEZ00LWUm2h4NBi_7qASLcE55q+uxT+1i_uOkni2cMd9oyrDQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00Jytw937gQAJWwT+okqrzpWcLAmpPxFScT7uX5e2J25NA@mail.gmail.com>

On 3 November 2012 11:15, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> Here are pictures from Dave Croft, first one is the storage building,
> second two are the engines:
>
> http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded6/Sam_0697Red.jpg
>
> http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded6/Old FF 3 HP.jpg
>
> http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded6/BLA Vertical 1.5 HP.jpg

Watch out for the gaps in the picture names, some browsers won't pick
that whole line up.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Nov  3 11:22:00 2012
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:22:00 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Theft of my Engines
In-Reply-To: <355816670.8346391351962564799.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
References: <3544c.68d64db0.3dc6a075@aol.com>
	<355816670.8346391351962564799.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00J4SNgViw5=NtjP5ExpMYcJZLcXnnKjCmDfDB=VrEUUaw@mail.gmail.com>

On 3 November 2012 17:09,  <cgandree at mchsi.com> wrote:
> Ok guys here is a direct send on Dave Crofts loss. Hopefully you engine men in the UK will go to work and give him a hand retrieving his prized possesions, not to mention keel-hauling the culprits that
> took from my good friend Dave.
> Curt Andree

The big problem appears to be that Dave hasn't got a handle on WHEN
the break-in occurred, the building is remote from his home, and
presumably he was informed by a neighbour or a friend about the
building being broken into.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Mon Nov  5 03:13:35 2012
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 22:13:35 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith 100th rally
Message-ID: <CCBDEA8F.F5F6%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

It was a fantastic weekend. I caught up with a lot of people from all over
Australia. It was great to put faces to names of people I had only spoken to
on the phone or via email or forums. Sadly I did not have time to catch up
with everyone, but there is always next time.
The array of exhibits was amazing and just when I thought I had seen
everything I would discover another shed or compound I had missed.
I would not have minded staying another day but I had to get home to babysit
a slightly unwell little engine man. This morning I left early and drove
from Ballarat home to Sydney in 10 hours. Austral No.182/755 is safely
stowed back in its shed after a great weekend visiting its family ;)
Some pics on my site at:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/lg100th/index.htm
No captions as yet but I should get them done by the weekend.
Enjoy!
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk  Mon Nov  5 11:09:04 2012
From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (Craig Morrison)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 19:09:04 -0000
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith 100th rally
References: <CCBDEA8F.F5F6%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AD2B4ED8D7C247759D263145597A34D8@craig8b4f43368>

Patrick,  Thanks for taking the time to firstly take all these photos and 
then to post them for all of us to see. I really liked the pictures of the 
Angus engine as it took me 10 years (I didn't realise OZ was such a big 
place) to track down the owner of it so that he could help with photos of 
the Angus engine that I have, incidentally as far as we can ascertain this 
is the only 2 Angus engines to exist. What really weird about this is that 
one is in Australia and the other is in Scotland where it has been all of 
it's life.

Thanks, Craig

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 11:13 AM
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith 100th rally


> It was a fantastic weekend. I caught up with a lot of people from all over
> Australia. It was great to put faces to names of people I had only spoken 
> to
> on the phone or via email or forums. Sadly I did not have time to catch up
> with everyone, but there is always next time.
> The array of exhibits was amazing and just when I thought I had seen
> everything I would discover another shed or compound I had missed.
> I would not have minded staying another day but I had to get home to 
> babysit
> a slightly unwell little engine man. This morning I left early and drove
> from Ballarat home to Sydney in 10 hours. Austral No.182/755 is safely
> stowed back in its shed after a great weekend visiting its family ;)
> Some pics on my site at:
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/lg100th/index.htm
> No captions as yet but I should get them done by the weekend.
> Enjoy!
> Patrick
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> 0418 692013
> Earlwood NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  6 14:31:49 2012
From: frazerlyndsay at hotmail.com (Lyndsay Frazer)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:31:49 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith 100th rally
In-Reply-To: <AD2B4ED8D7C247759D263145597A34D8@craig8b4f43368>
References: <CCBDEA8F.F5F6%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>,
	<AD2B4ED8D7C247759D263145597A34D8@craig8b4f43368>
Message-ID: <SNT144-W5064AFD02F911BFC84EE82A36B0@phx.gbl>


Thanks for the great photos Patrick. Sorry I missed you at the Rally but must have been off talking as usual. It certainly was a big event with some very rare engines present.
Regards
Lyndsay 
 


> From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 19:09:04 +0000
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith 100th rally
> 
> Patrick, Thanks for taking the time to firstly take all these photos and 
> then to post them for all of us to see. I really liked the pictures of the 
> Angus engine as it took me 10 years (I didn't realise OZ was such a big 
> place) to track down the owner of it so that he could help with photos of 
> the Angus engine that I have, incidentally as far as we can ascertain this 
> is the only 2 Angus engines to exist. What really weird about this is that 
> one is in Australia and the other is in Scotland where it has been all of 
> it's life.
> 
> Thanks, Craig
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
> To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine" 
> <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 11:13 AM
> Subject: [SEL] Lake Goldsmith 100th rally
> 
> 
> > It was a fantastic weekend. I caught up with a lot of people from all over
> > Australia. It was great to put faces to names of people I had only spoken 
> > to
> > on the phone or via email or forums. Sadly I did not have time to catch up
> > with everyone, but there is always next time.
> > The array of exhibits was amazing and just when I thought I had seen
> > everything I would discover another shed or compound I had missed.
> > I would not have minded staying another day but I had to get home to 
> > babysit
> > a slightly unwell little engine man. This morning I left early and drove
> > from Ballarat home to Sydney in 10 hours. Austral No.182/755 is safely
> > stowed back in its shed after a great weekend visiting its family ;)
> > Some pics on my site at:
> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/lg100th/index.htm
> > No captions as yet but I should get them done by the weekend.
> > Enjoy!
> > Patrick
> >
> > Patrick M Livingstone
> > 0418 692013
> > Earlwood NSW
> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> >
> >
> >
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> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 
> 
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From gop4evr at lsol.net  Thu Nov  8 10:41:24 2012
From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 12:41:24 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo 2013
Message-ID: <92E33CE6-4641-4AA2-ABFC-AC741E09AC1D@lsol.net>

For those attending Next summer's show in Baraboo, WI --
I am starting to reserve vacation days for next year, and I have set aside the Baraboo weekend in August.  We will be calling this week to make motel reservations.  Is there a preferred lodging for the group, or should I just take pot luck?

There always seems to be something coming up to keep me away from that show, so I am determined to get there this year.  Add to that the fact that I was not feeling very good the last time I did get there.  I need to plan ahead and enjoy!


Nels Johnsrud
Manitowoc WI
gop4evr at lsol.net








From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Nov  8 12:42:55 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 15:42:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo 2013
In-Reply-To: <92E33CE6-4641-4AA2-ABFC-AC741E09AC1D@lsol.net>
References: <92E33CE6-4641-4AA2-ABFC-AC741E09AC1D@lsol.net>
Message-ID: <8098a2c08e28ac3d25929ed7c31425f2.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

Nels,

You should really plan on being there for Fri-Sun.
The last few years a number of us have been staying at the Motel 6.
http://www.motel6.com/reservations/motel_detail.aspx?num=4281
It's cheap and very close to the showgrounds.

See ya,  Arnie

On Thu, November 8, 2012 1:41 pm, Nelson Johnsrud wrote:
> For those attending Next summer's show in Baraboo, WI --
> I am starting to reserve vacation days for next year, and I have set aside
> the Baraboo weekend in August.  We will be calling this week to make motel
> reservations.  Is there a preferred lodging for the group, or should I
> just take pot luck?
>
> There always seems to be something coming up to keep me away from that
> show, so I am determined to get there this year.  Add to that the fact
> that I was not feeling very good the last time I did get there.  I need to
> plan ahead and enjoy!
>
>
> Nels Johnsrud
> Manitowoc WI
> gop4evr at lsol.net




From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Fri Nov  9 03:56:44 2012
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 22:56:44 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Some video taken at the 100th Lake Goldsmith Rally
Message-ID: <CCC33AAC.F681%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

Austral Oil Engine No.226. The only known flyball governed Austral
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CRr41jNGHY

1903 10hp Coulson "Simplex" Oil Engine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IfKvNTnPKM

Excelsior built by Philip Rayson Melbourne.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsUcTKZ_Ehw

Harris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxyk59r6TD0

T. Melvin & Son, Glasgow. 2.5hp c1896
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEqPs3EBRVk

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From gop4evr at lsol.net  Fri Nov  9 08:22:37 2012
From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 10:22:37 -0600
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2 hp Hercules E parts
Message-ID: <0300CA23-117C-4524-8AD4-A14A8DE71D77@lsol.net>

I was rooting around in my garage yesterday and I found an interesting package.  In it are a brand new set of rings, head gasket, igniter gasket, and "Hercules" decals for a 1-1/2 hp model E Hercules engine.  There is even a new set of 'spring hook' roller bushings for the Webster mag.  I have the brass engine I.D. tag (with pins) too.  The engine I bought these for has long since disappeared in an engine trade gone bad involving a collector from Maine.  If someone is rebuilding a baby Herc, and needs these parts, I will let them go cheap.  Contact me off list.


Nels Johnsrud
Manitowoc WI
gop4evr at lsol.net








From gop4evr at lsol.net  Fri Nov  9 08:51:27 2012
From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 08:51:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo 2013
In-Reply-To: <8098a2c08e28ac3d25929ed7c31425f2.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <92E33CE6-4641-4AA2-ABFC-AC741E09AC1D@lsol.net>
	<8098a2c08e28ac3d25929ed7c31425f2.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <1352479887.92026.YahooMailNeo@web142704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Thanks Arnie. ?I took Vacation for that Thursday and Friday, and we plan to do just as you say - Friday through Sunday. ?I'll look into the Motel 6 to see if there is a vacancy.

?
Nels



>________________________________
> From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> 
>Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 2:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Baraboo 2013
> 
>Nels,
>
>You should really plan on being there for Fri-Sun.
>The last few years a number of us have been staying at the Motel 6.
>http://www.motel6.com/reservations/motel_detail.aspx?num=4281
>It's cheap and very close to the showgrounds.
>
>See ya,? Arnie
>
>On Thu, November 8, 2012 1:41 pm, Nelson Johnsrud wrote:
>> For those attending Next summer's show in Baraboo, WI --
>> I am starting to reserve vacation days for next year, and I have set aside
>> the Baraboo weekend in August.? We will be calling this week to make motel
>> reservations.? Is there a preferred lodging for the group, or should I
>> just take pot luck?
>>
>> There always seems to be something coming up to keep me away from that
>> show, so I am determined to get there this year.? Add to that the fact
>> that I was not feeling very good the last time I did get there.? I need to
>> plan ahead and enjoy!
>>
>>
>> Nels Johnsrud
>> Manitowoc WI
>> gop4evr at lsol.net
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
>

From bboyce at swat.coop  Fri Nov  9 12:07:41 2012
From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 14:07:41 -0600
Subject: [SEL] 7 inch rod journal bearing
Message-ID: <7996C07B62DE4AF1AEDBABA7729163E1@billPC>

hello all,,
i'm looking for some suggestions for a bearing repair. i need to have a connecting rod bearing re-babbitted,,, the appx size is about 7 inches on the crank pin dia. and appx 7 inches in width.  there are brass shells the babbitt will be poured onto,,,,,
has anyone had a repair like this done lately? and where is a good place to send it for repair?
any ideas would be appreciated,,,
bill boyce
lost prairie, arkansas

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Nov  9 13:22:36 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 16:22:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] 7 inch rod journal bearing
In-Reply-To: <7996C07B62DE4AF1AEDBABA7729163E1@billPC>
References: <7996C07B62DE4AF1AEDBABA7729163E1@billPC>
Message-ID: <f2f238e317bcc1699264bcdce1f9e28f.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

Hi Bill,

You may have better luck posting this question to the OFES.
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=43

They typically need to pour the larger bearings.

Have you totally ruled out pouring the bearing yourself?
Craig Prucha did a series of BIG engine restoration videos
that included details on pouring LARGE bearings.  You may
be able to purchase them on DVD from Coolspring.

The Magnolia Metal Bearing Book is another awesome resource
for anyone pouring their own bearings.
http://www.metalwebnews.org/ftp/bearing-book.pdf

Good luck.  Be sure to take loads of pictures and post the
results here.

See ya,  Arnie

On Fri, November 9, 2012 3:07 pm, bill boyce wrote:
> hello all,,
> i'm looking for some suggestions for a bearing repair. i need to have a
> connecting rod bearing re-babbitted,,, the appx size is about 7 inches on
> the crank pin dia. and appx 7 inches in width.  there are brass shells the
> babbitt will be poured onto,,,,,
> has anyone had a repair like this done lately? and where is a good place
> to send it for repair?
> any ideas would be appreciated,,,
> bill boyce
> lost prairie, arkansas




From rob at rustyiron.com  Fri Nov  9 13:55:03 2012
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:55:03 -0800
Subject: [SEL] 7 inch rod journal bearing
In-Reply-To: <7996C07B62DE4AF1AEDBABA7729163E1@billPC>
References: <7996C07B62DE4AF1AEDBABA7729163E1@billPC>
Message-ID: <48AA9DE1-8295-482E-80DA-7C853F5711BB@rustyiron.com>


On Nov 9, 2012, at 12:07 PM, bill boyce <bboyce at swat.coop> wrote:

> hello all,,
> i'm looking for some suggestions for a bearing repair. i need to have a connecting rod bearing re-babbitted,,, the appx size is about 7 inches on the crank pin dia. and appx 7 inches in width.  there are brass shells the babbitt will be poured onto,,,,,
> has anyone had a repair like this done lately? and where is a good place to send it for repair?
> any ideas would be appreciated,,,
> 

Arnie?s right. You should do it yourself. I?ve never done anything that big, but it?s not brain surgery. 





From camanedwina at hotmail.com  Fri Nov  9 15:05:27 2012
From: camanedwina at hotmail.com (cameron_edwina grundy)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 10:05:27 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Some video taken at the 100th Lake Goldsmith Rally
In-Reply-To: <CCC33AAC.F681%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CCC33AAC.F681%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT120-DS1438D75B7D260BDA51C5C6BF680@phx.gbl>

Brilliant Mate.
Cam

-----Original Message----- 
From: Patrick Livingstone 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:56 PM 
To: ATIS ; Oldengine 
Subject: [SEL] Some video taken at the 100th Lake Goldsmith Rally 

Austral Oil Engine No.226. The only known flyball governed Austral
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CRr41jNGHY

1903 10hp Coulson "Simplex" Oil Engine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IfKvNTnPKM

Excelsior built by Philip Rayson Melbourne.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsUcTKZ_Ehw

Harris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxyk59r6TD0

T. Melvin & Son, Glasgow. 2.5hp c1896
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEqPs3EBRVk

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html



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Cam Grundy
camaned at hotmail.com
Mob 0409250803


From jbcast at charter.net  Fri Nov  9 16:02:10 2012
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 19:02:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] 7 inch rod journal bearing
Message-ID: <35edc1c3.11c7fa.13ae79fa5d9.Webtop.47@charter.net>

When the local sugar mill was open I would stop by and see what was 
going on in the machine shop. The mill bearings were on 18" shafts. They 
would tin them with acid core solder paste and re babbitt them with a 
babbitt wire, looked like solder. He would use a torch and melt it on 
like you would with a brazing rod, they would mount it in the big 
Cincinati Mill and bore them. When the mill closed I picked up a roll of 
the babbitt, if you want to try it I can send you some.
J.B. Castagnos


On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM, bill boyce wrote:

> hello all,,
> i'm looking for some suggestions for a bearing repair. i need to have 
> a connecting rod bearing re-babbitted,,, the appx size is about 7 
> inches on the crank pin dia. and appx 7 inches in width.  there are 
> brass shells the babbitt will be poured onto,,,,,
> has anyone had a repair like this done lately? and where is a good 
> place to send it for repair?
> any ideas would be appreciated,,,
> bill boyce
> lost prairie, arkansas
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com  Sat Nov 10 00:49:53 2012
From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:49:53 +0000
Subject: [SEL] 7 inch rod journal bearing
In-Reply-To: <35edc1c3.11c7fa.13ae79fa5d9.Webtop.47@charter.net>
References: <35edc1c3.11c7fa.13ae79fa5d9.Webtop.47@charter.net>
Message-ID: <SNT107-W187ABF9356E70E0E429761D06F0@phx.gbl>


Totally agree it's not rocket science!  The last one I did needed 15 thou so I tinned the shells and wiped the babbit on . Very pleased with result.  John

> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 19:02:10 -0500
> From: jbcast at charter.net
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] 7 inch rod journal bearing
> 
> When the local sugar mill was open I would stop by and see what was 
> going on in the machine shop. The mill bearings were on 18" shafts. They 
> would tin them with acid core solder paste and re babbitt them with a 
> babbitt wire, looked like solder. He would use a torch and melt it on 
> like you would with a brazing rod, they would mount it in the big 
> Cincinati Mill and bore them. When the mill closed I picked up a roll of 
> the babbitt, if you want to try it I can send you some.
> J.B. Castagnos
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM, bill boyce wrote:
> 
> > hello all,,
> > i'm looking for some suggestions for a bearing repair. i need to have 
> > a connecting rod bearing re-babbitted,,, the appx size is about 7 
> > inches on the crank pin dia. and appx 7 inches in width.  there are 
> > brass shells the babbitt will be poured onto,,,,,
> > has anyone had a repair like this done lately? and where is a good 
> > place to send it for repair?
> > any ideas would be appreciated,,,
> > bill boyce
> > lost prairie, arkansas
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> _______________________________________________
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From gop4evr at lsol.net  Sat Nov 10 04:56:06 2012
From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 06:56:06 -0600
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2 hp Hercules E parts
In-Reply-To: <0300CA23-117C-4524-8AD4-A14A8DE71D77@lsol.net>
References: <0300CA23-117C-4524-8AD4-A14A8DE71D77@lsol.net>
Message-ID: <B6423C56-3CF0-41D0-AA4F-B51D7C851DBE@lsol.net>

I've had several responses to this, but unfortunately I only have the one set, and it has been sold.  Thanks!


Nels Johnsrud
Manitowoc WI
gop4evr at lsol.net




On Nov 9, 2012, at 10:22 AM, Nelson Johnsrud <gop4evr at lsol.net> wrote:

> I was rooting around in my garage yesterday and I found an interesting package.  In it are a brand new set of rings, head gasket, igniter gasket, and "Hercules" decals for a 1-1/2 hp model E Hercules engine.  There is even a new set of 'spring hook' roller bushings for the Webster mag.  I have the brass engine I.D. tag (with pins) too.  The engine I bought these for has long since disappeared in an engine trade gone bad involving a collector from Maine.  If someone is rebuilding a baby Herc, and needs these parts, I will let them go cheap.  Contact me off list.
> 
> 
> Nels Johnsrud
> Manitowoc WI
> gop4evr at lsol.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel





From avanti_64 at juno.com  Sat Nov 10 04:59:09 2012
From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:59:09 GMT
Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Re=3A__Some_video_taken_at_the_100th?=
	=?iso-8859-1?q?_Lake_Goldsmith_Rally?=
Message-ID: <20121110.075909.18439.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com>

Thanks Patrick, nice stuff!
Joe
____________________________________________________________
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Stores Across U.S. Sold Out of This New &#39;Miracle&#39; Weight Loss Pill.
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From maytagtwin at aol.com  Sat Nov 10 12:39:04 2012
From: maytagtwin at aol.com (maytagtwin at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 15:39:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] 1-1/2 hp Hercules E parts
In-Reply-To: <B6423C56-3CF0-41D0-AA4F-B51D7C851DBE@lsol.net>
References: <0300CA23-117C-4524-8AD4-A14A8DE71D77@lsol.net>
	<B6423C56-3CF0-41D0-AA4F-B51D7C851DBE@lsol.net>
Message-ID: <8CF8D9A8EE283C6-7B4-34AD2@webmail-m015.sysops.aol.com>


Thanks.  I am not surprised that it is gone as I was late in responding. 
Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: Nelson Johnsrud <gop4evr at lsol.net>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:00 am
Subject: Re: [SEL] 1-1/2 hp Hercules E parts


I've had several responses to this, but unfortunately I only have the one set, 
and it has been sold.  Thanks!


Nels Johnsrud
Manitowoc WI
gop4evr at lsol.net




On Nov 9, 2012, at 10:22 AM, Nelson Johnsrud <gop4evr at lsol.net> wrote:

> I was rooting around in my garage yesterday and I found an interesting 
package.  In it are a brand new set of rings, head gasket, igniter gasket, and 
"Hercules" decals for a 1-1/2 hp model E Hercules engine.  There is even a new 
set of 'spring hook' roller bushings for the Webster mag.  I have the brass 
engine I.D. tag (with pins) too.  The engine I bought these for has long since 
disappeared in an engine trade gone bad involving a collector from Maine.  If 
someone is rebuilding a baby Herc, and needs these parts, I will let them go 
cheap.  Contact me off list.
> 
> 
> Nels Johnsrud
> Manitowoc WI
> gop4evr at lsol.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



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From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sat Nov 10 16:33:43 2012
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (Paul Maples)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:33:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Is the underground railroad still alive and working? Need
	transportation
Message-ID: <1352594023.77179.YahooMailRC@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Folks due to illness, raising two grandsons, and lack of funds to pay bills I 
had to sell off all my old engines for income. My good friend, Larry Kastens, 
who lives in in Hereford, AZ has offered to give me a Hercules 1-1/2 engine and 
a Fairbanks Morse Eclipse if I can find transportation to get them to Arkansas. 
Is anyone going to be going or coming from anywhere close to Larry to help me 
get these closer to Arkansas.

Thanks for the help folks, I sure appreciate it.

Paul


From cgandree at mchsi.com  Sun Nov 11 06:49:52 2012
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:49:52 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo 2013
In-Reply-To: <1352479887.92026.YahooMailNeo@web142704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <547433965.733711352645392866.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

Hi Nels,
Just in case you didn't know our ATIS sel engine group has a designed spot of which I personally rope off every year just behind the main craft building.  My wife and I will be there late wednesday and be glad to help you unload your engines.  Also keep in mind on Saturday night we all meet at a local resturant to eat and drink together so plan on joining the group.  If you have any questions or need any help finding a motel nearby feel free to contact me directly.
Looking forward to seeing you,
Curt Andree









----- Original Message -----
From: "Nelson Johnsrud" <gop4evr at lsol.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 10:51:27 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [SEL] Baraboo 2013

Thanks Arnie. ?I took Vacation for that Thursday and Friday, and we plan to do just as you say - Friday through Sunday. ?I'll look into the Motel 6 to see if there is a vacancy.

?
Nels



>________________________________
> From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> 
>Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 2:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Baraboo 2013
> 
>Nels,
>
>You should really plan on being there for Fri-Sun.
>The last few years a number of us have been staying at the Motel 6.
>http://www.motel6.com/reservations/motel_detail.aspx?num=4281
>It's cheap and very close to the showgrounds.
>
>See ya,? Arnie
>
>On Thu, November 8, 2012 1:41 pm, Nelson Johnsrud wrote:
>> For those attending Next summer's show in Baraboo, WI --
>> I am starting to reserve vacation days for next year, and I have set aside
>> the Baraboo weekend in August.? We will be calling this week to make motel
>> reservations.? Is there a preferred lodging for the group, or should I
>> just take pot luck?
>>
>> There always seems to be something coming up to keep me away from that
>> show, so I am determined to get there this year.? Add to that the fact
>> that I was not feeling very good the last time I did get there.? I need to
>> plan ahead and enjoy!
>>
>>
>> Nels Johnsrud
>> Manitowoc WI
>> gop4evr at lsol.net
>
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From curt at rustyiron.com  Sun Nov 11 19:59:20 2012
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 22:59:20 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 7 inch rod journal bearing
In-Reply-To: <48AA9DE1-8295-482E-80DA-7C853F5711BB@rustyiron.com>
References: <7996C07B62DE4AF1AEDBABA7729163E1@billPC>
	<48AA9DE1-8295-482E-80DA-7C853F5711BB@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <94e7e3b91bd863a77e9a9e898499483e.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>


Bill,
Ditto on Arnie and Rob. You can do this.

Here is a small one we did a while back. Scroll down to the 6/24/05 date
for the babbitt and rod work. Same principles apply.

<http://oldengine.org/members/holland/images/DevinsBakerMonitorRebuild/Thumbnails.html>

Curt Holland
Bessemer City, NC

>
> On Nov 9, 2012, at 12:07 PM, bill boyce <bboyce at swat.coop> wrote:
>
>> hello all,,
>> i'm looking for some suggestions for a bearing repair. i need to have a
>> connecting rod bearing re-babbitted,,, the appx size is about 7 inches
>> on the crank pin dia. and appx 7 inches in width.  there are brass
>> shells the babbitt will be poured onto,,,,,
>> has anyone had a repair like this done lately? and where is a good place
>> to send it for repair?
>> any ideas would be appreciated,,,
>>
>
> Arnie?s right. You should do it yourself. I?ve never done anything that
> big, but it?s not brain surgery.
>
>
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From jlb94 at juno.com  Mon Nov 19 12:02:30 2012
From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:02:30 GMT
Subject: [SEL] Fw: Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
Message-ID: <20121119.150230.28463.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>

This shit really pisses me off - - - Every time I try to send to the SEL , it's the SAME SHIT !!!


Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/       If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.
 (_0_)            "In memory of Bre-Dog"  
                                                          

                                



---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
To: jlb94 at juno.com
Subject: Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:52:18 -0500

Your mail to 'SEL' with the subject

   FW: Blown glass steam engine.

Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

The reason it is being held:

   Message has implicit destination

Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
notification of the moderator's decision.  If you would like to cancel
this posting, please visit the following URL:

   http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/confirm/sel/30e4bdd7fc28d26437dccde2b22722f9e45a97d1


From wilson at stny.rr.com  Mon Nov 19 12:29:12 2012
From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:29:12 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Fw: Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
In-Reply-To: <20121119.150230.28463.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20121119.150230.28463.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <2C96CD0A-9C3D-4066-BEBE-DA294E784E14@stny.rr.com>



Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 19, 2012, at 8:02 PM, "jlb94 at juno.com" <jlb94 at juno.com> wrote:

This shit really pisses me off - - - Every time I try to send to the SEL , it's the SAME SHIT !!!


Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
\/)"(\/       If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.
(_0_)            "In memory of Bre-Dog"  






---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
To: jlb94 at juno.com
Subject: Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:52:18 -0500

Your mail to 'SEL' with the subject

  FW: Blown glass steam engine.

Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

The reason it is being held:

  Message has implicit destination

Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
notification of the moderator's decision.  If you would like to cancel
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From rob at rustyiron.com  Mon Nov 19 20:07:42 2012
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:07:42 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
In-Reply-To: <20121119.150230.28463.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20121119.150230.28463.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <D8970413-1088-403B-8EA8-D5641D43E936@rustyiron.com>


On Nov 19, 2012, at 12:02 PM, jlb94 at juno.com wrote:

> This shit really pisses me off - - - Every time I try to send to the SEL , it's the SAME SHIT !!!

> 

>> The reason it is being held:
>> 
>>   Message has implicit destination




I wonder if the list moderator gets as pissed off because you keep doing the same thing wrong, time and time again. 








From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Mon Nov 19 21:35:55 2012
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 16:35:55 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
References: <20121119.150230.28463.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>
	<D8970413-1088-403B-8EA8-D5641D43E936@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <431B2AB57773429FAA2FFAA5756A87B9@regpc>

Rob. Perhaps, as YOU understand it, you should be a helper to "us old farts 
who are struggling" ?
The 'net' to a lot of us, is a "fog" that we see through now and then.
I, when I stayed with you and Kellie, was blown away by how far ahead of me, 
you were with computers.
I struggle with what you might regard as 'Basics'.
A lot of the time, I just dump stuff cos it "WONT GO"
(Thoughts of an "OLD FART") Grin.
Reg.
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Skinner" <rob at rustyiron.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -


>
> On Nov 19, 2012, at 12:02 PM, jlb94 at juno.com wrote:
>
>> This shit really pisses me off - - - Every time I try to send to the SEL 
>> , it's the SAME SHIT !!!
>
>>
>
>>> The reason it is being held:
>>>
>>>   Message has implicit destination
>
>
>
>
> I wonder if the list moderator gets as pissed off because you keep doing 
> the same thing wrong, time and time again.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Nov 20 08:08:02 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:08:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
In-Reply-To: <D8970413-1088-403B-8EA8-D5641D43E936@rustyiron.com>
References: <20121119.150230.28463.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>
	<D8970413-1088-403B-8EA8-D5641D43E936@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <2b61af5da7051dd1c2732b3e997b11d4.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

It is well known that SEL email cannot have ANY attachments
and OldEngine email cannot have ANY large attachments.

On Mon, November 19, 2012 11:07 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:
>
> On Nov 19, 2012, at 12:02 PM, jlb94 at juno.com wrote:
>
>> This shit really pisses me off - - - Every time I try to send to the SEL
>> , it's the SAME SHIT !!!
>
>
> I wonder if the list moderator gets as pissed off because you keep doing
> the same thing wrong, time and time again.
>




From rob at rustyiron.com  Tue Nov 20 08:45:47 2012
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 08:45:47 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
In-Reply-To: <431B2AB57773429FAA2FFAA5756A87B9@regpc>
References: <20121119.150230.28463.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>
	<D8970413-1088-403B-8EA8-D5641D43E936@rustyiron.com>
	<431B2AB57773429FAA2FFAA5756A87B9@regpc>
Message-ID: <3D9A931B-BB40-4300-BE12-828073E788FB@rustyiron.com>


On Nov 19, 2012, at 9:35 PM, "Reg Ingold"  wrote:

>  you should be a helper to "us old farts who are struggling? ?


No problem, mate. All you gotta do is ask.

http://bit.ly/10n49xl





















From yostsw at atis.net  Tue Nov 20 10:24:38 2012
From: yostsw at atis.net (Spencer Yost)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:24:38 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
In-Reply-To: <431B2AB57773429FAA2FFAA5756A87B9@regpc>
References: <20121119.150230.28463.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>
	<D8970413-1088-403B-8EA8-D5641D43E936@rustyiron.com>
	<431B2AB57773429FAA2FFAA5756A87B9@regpc>
Message-ID: <7849565F-B31F-4B7F-B871-1C78BB29F64A@atis.net>

Your messages are often rejected because they have an "implicit destination".  All that means is your messages are not explicitly addressed to the list.   This can happen when you send the message to the list as a blind carbon copy(e.g. "BCC") or you asked your email package to "hide all recipients".  Often messages forwarded to the list from others will end up using "undisclosed recipients".   This rule was created to catch spam created viruses on members computers.  It is actually one of the most important in preventing spam to the list(besides requiring membership)

I hope this helps, 

Spencer



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From jlb94 at juno.com  Tue Nov 20 12:24:28 2012
From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:24:28 GMT
Subject: [SEL] Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
Message-ID: <20121120.152428.22136.1@webmail05.vgs.untd.com>

Thanks, Spencer for your reply.
The next time I want to share something with the list, I'll send it to someone you know !!!



Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/       If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.
 (_0_)            "In memory of Bre-Dog"  
                                                          

                                



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Spencer Yost <yostsw at atis.net>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:24:38 -0500

Your messages are often rejected because they have an "implicit destination".  All that means is your messages are not explicitly addressed to the list.   This can happen when you send the message to the list as a blind carbon copy(e.g. "BCC") or you asked your email package to "hide all recipients".  Often messages forwarded to the list from others will end up using "undisclosed recipients".   This rule was created to catch spam created viruses on members computers.  It is actually one of the most important in preventing spam to the list(besides requiring membership)

I hope this helps, 

Spencer



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From jlb94 at juno.com  Tue Nov 20 12:27:35 2012
From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:27:35 GMT
Subject: [SEL] Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
Message-ID: <20121120.152735.22136.2@webmail05.vgs.untd.com>

Thanks Arnie,  
Then no one will be able to see that because of some bullshit rule.



Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/       If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.
 (_0_)            "In memory of Bre-Dog"  
                                                          

                                



---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Your message to SEL awaits moderator approval -
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:08:02 -0500 (EST)

It is well known that SEL email cannot have ANY attachments
and OldEngine email cannot have ANY large attachments.

On Mon, November 19, 2012 11:07 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:
>
> On Nov 19, 2012, at 12:02 PM, jlb94 at juno.com wrote:
>
>> This shit really pisses me off - - - Every time I try to send to the SEL
>> , it's the SAME SHIT !!!
>
>
> I wonder if the list moderator gets as pissed off because you keep doing
> the same thing wrong, time and time again.
>


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From rustyiron1 at bigpond.com  Tue Nov 20 23:49:39 2012
From: rustyiron1 at bigpond.com (Andy Nicholson)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:49:39 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Decal's
Message-ID: <BF3E495E301645E8AC4A1AEE6F4507AD@owner916e4fa44>

Hello, Hope some one can help, I'm looking for a McCormick-deering Decal.
It has to be Diamond shaped, about 7" long 2 1/2" high.
I've only seen pictures, and they wer'nt any good, so I can't use them as a template.
Has any one any idea's?

Andy.....
Qld Aust

From enginepaul at gmail.com  Wed Nov 21 14:02:43 2012
From: enginepaul at gmail.com (STRAIGHT from SanFran)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:02:43 -0800
Subject: [SEL] For Arnie and any energy and/or tax buffs
Message-ID: <CAMuKiUDFZCXPeSp6zuVJQAtRk+iRspq3s7g2u3D5QfK654zR+w@mail.gmail.com>

Arnie:

I went to hear a speaker talk about the Lawrence Livermore fusion
program. He told us how we were months away from the big breakthrough.
A guy in the audience said we were always just near the end - for the
last 50 years.

These future generating plants will have to be very large; they can't
be made small like some of the nuke plants. That seems to me that we
will need more and longer power lines that are forbidden here in
California. I forgot to ask if the electricity will be laser delivered
too, so we can solve that problem.

They just finished a 3+ $Billion building and things are all ready to
go. They couldn't give us any idea about how much was already spent to
get to this stage; but they only need money for a while longer. (I'm
guessing the money will last until they need some more; but I'm not a
scientist, just a tax-payer.)

A guy pointed out how Government dollars are well spent because we
wouldn't have gotten this far without those tax dollars being plowed
in. But the speaker said private industry was where they got the
needed laser developments to be this far along. One of the industries
was the hair removal industry.

So someday you will hit the light switch and the fusion generated
light will allow you to see your hairless mate without getting grossed
out. Worth several $Billion. I guess.

Paul - Generating a headache


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Nov 21 14:39:40 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:39:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] For Arnie and any energy and/or tax buffs
In-Reply-To: <CAMuKiUDFZCXPeSp6zuVJQAtRk+iRspq3s7g2u3D5QfK654zR+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMuKiUDFZCXPeSp6zuVJQAtRk+iRspq3s7g2u3D5QfK654zR+w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9e554da6c5e7d9a9b3f3baf7dcfbf02e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

Whew.  You had me worried for a minute there Paul.
I was afraid you were going to tell me that I'd flip that
light switch and all my hair would fall out.  8-))

BTW, the ol' transmission line NIMBY issue isn't unique
to Kalifornia.  Germany probably has the most ambitious
wind power program in Europe.  Heavily government
subsidized.

The problem is that the wind power is in the north.
The heavy industrial demand for electricity is in the south.
The region in the middle are all the touristy bits where
NO ONE dares to put transmission lines.

Anyone see a problem there?

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, November 21, 2012 5:02 pm, STRAIGHT from SanFran wrote:
> Arnie:
>
> I went to hear a speaker talk about the Lawrence Livermore fusion
> program. He told us how we were months away from the big breakthrough.
> A guy in the audience said we were always just near the end - for the
> last 50 years.
>
> These future generating plants will have to be very large; they can't
> be made small like some of the nuke plants. That seems to me that we
> will need more and longer power lines that are forbidden here in
> California. I forgot to ask if the electricity will be laser delivered
> too, so we can solve that problem.
>
> They just finished a 3+ $Billion building and things are all ready to
> go. They couldn't give us any idea about how much was already spent to
> get to this stage; but they only need money for a while longer. (I'm
> guessing the money will last until they need some more; but I'm not a
> scientist, just a tax-payer.)
>
> A guy pointed out how Government dollars are well spent because we
> wouldn't have gotten this far without those tax dollars being plowed
> in. But the speaker said private industry was where they got the
> needed laser developments to be this far along. One of the industries
> was the hair removal industry.
>
> So someday you will hit the light switch and the fusion generated
> light will allow you to see your hairless mate without getting grossed
> out. Worth several $Billion. I guess.
>
> Paul - Generating a headache
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>




From enginepaul at gmail.com  Wed Nov 21 18:51:53 2012
From: enginepaul at gmail.com (STRAIGHT from SanFran)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:51:53 -0800
Subject: [SEL] For Arnie and any energy and/or tax buffs
In-Reply-To: <9e554da6c5e7d9a9b3f3baf7dcfbf02e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <CAMuKiUDFZCXPeSp6zuVJQAtRk+iRspq3s7g2u3D5QfK654zR+w@mail.gmail.com>
	<9e554da6c5e7d9a9b3f3baf7dcfbf02e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <CAMuKiUCODKsydRjBm=bLyOGHvVk2+M0swEXTsvx0q2+2gU3cKA@mail.gmail.com>

Forgot about the solar stuff that was discussed by another informal group there.

More than one physicist says solar power generation is limited and
will never drop enough in price to be worthwhile.

The SanFran Bay Area may be the roof mounted solar capital of the
world and some items brought up are:

Most owners that can afford solar, even with subsidies, will never
live long enough for the pay back, They usually find this out well
after they buy. It seems that "pays for itself" means that the buyer
pays and waits.

Solar is heavy and roofs usually need reinforcement to support the weight.

An architect pointed out - here in earthquake country - that a heavier
roof would require stronger framing and anchors and bracing for
seismic reinforcing. Nobody there knew if they did that.

Paul - still buying electricity.



On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
> Whew.  You had me worried for a minute there Paul.
> I was afraid you were going to tell me that I'd flip that
> light switch and all my hair would fall out.  8-))
>
> BTW, the ol' transmission line NIMBY issue isn't unique
> to Kalifornia.  Germany probably has the most ambitious
> wind power program in Europe.  Heavily government
> subsidized.
>
> The problem is that the wind power is in the north.
> The heavy industrial demand for electricity is in the south.
> The region in the middle are all the touristy bits where
> NO ONE dares to put transmission lines.
>
> Anyone see a problem there?
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> On Wed, November 21, 2012 5:02 pm, STRAIGHT from SanFran wrote:
>> Arnie:
>>
>> I went to hear a speaker talk about the Lawrence Livermore fusion
>> program. He told us how we were months away from the big breakthrough.
>> A guy in the audience said we were always just near the end - for the
>> last 50 years.
>>
>> These future generating plants will have to be very large; they can't
>> be made small like some of the nuke plants. That seems to me that we
>> will need more and longer power lines that are forbidden here in
>> California. I forgot to ask if the electricity will be laser delivered
>> too, so we can solve that problem.
>>
>> They just finished a 3+ $Billion building and things are all ready to
>> go. They couldn't give us any idea about how much was already spent to
>> get to this stage; but they only need money for a while longer. (I'm
>> guessing the money will last until they need some more; but I'm not a
>> scientist, just a tax-payer.)
>>
>> A guy pointed out how Government dollars are well spent because we
>> wouldn't have gotten this far without those tax dollars being plowed
>> in. But the speaker said private industry was where they got the
>> needed laser developments to be this far along. One of the industries
>> was the hair removal industry.
>>
>> So someday you will hit the light switch and the fusion generated
>> light will allow you to see your hairless mate without getting grossed
>> out. Worth several $Billion. I guess.
>>
>> Paul - Generating a headache
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
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From rotigel at me.com  Thu Nov 22 18:54:25 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 21:54:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] =?windows-1252?q?This_Event=85=2E?=
Message-ID: <56510B51-A14E-4BB8-8C8C-CCCBE1FA9BF9@me.com>

?. brought to you by? the chiropractors association of Sweden. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=mqxuEpgQ_FE&NR=1
	Dave



From rotigel at me.com  Thu Nov 22 18:56:28 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 21:56:28 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Mid-life Tractor Crisis
References: <001d01cdc908$f8241cd0$e86c5670$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F2973840-85B9-4893-8E75-9548DC19F973@me.com>

> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9yHl24QynOM
	Dave



From russell at ncable.com.au  Thu Nov 22 20:33:56 2012
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 15:33:56 +1100
Subject: [SEL] =?windows-1252?q?This_Event=85=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <56510B51-A14E-4BB8-8C8C-CCCBE1FA9BF9@me.com>
References: <56510B51-A14E-4BB8-8C8C-CCCBE1FA9BF9@me.com>
Message-ID: <761EE895-ED1F-43FD-AC15-DAECD7AEBE2A@ncable.com.au>

a very dangerous job that cooking job; as one can tell due to the Hi Vizz jackets they have on. 

Russ


On 23/11/2012, at 1:54 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:

> ?. brought to you by? the chiropractors association of Sweden. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=mqxuEpgQ_FE&NR=1
> 	Dave
> 
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Nov 22 20:49:28 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:49:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Mid-life Tractor Crisis
In-Reply-To: <F2973840-85B9-4893-8E75-9548DC19F973@me.com>
References: <001d01cdc908$f8241cd0$e86c5670$@gmail.com>
	<F2973840-85B9-4893-8E75-9548DC19F973@me.com>
Message-ID: <b592c456d7d8cd26fe203ae93e91e78b.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com>

I think he needs to tighten his exhaust pipe mountings...

On Thu, November 22, 2012 9:56 pm, Dave Rotigel wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9yHl24QynOM





From rotigel at me.com  Thu Nov 22 21:02:10 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 00:02:10 -0500
Subject: [SEL] =?windows-1252?q?This_Event=85=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <761EE895-ED1F-43FD-AC15-DAECD7AEBE2A@ncable.com.au>
References: <56510B51-A14E-4BB8-8C8C-CCCBE1FA9BF9@me.com>
	<761EE895-ED1F-43FD-AC15-DAECD7AEBE2A@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <3343348C-B334-45B0-A74E-66B798493DC1@me.com>

I was MOST impressed by the use of a thermo-gun to measure the "wellness" of the burgers! Did those cooks work for you at one time?
	Dave


On Nov 22, 2012, at 11:33 PM, Russell wrote:

> a very dangerous job that cooking job; as one can tell due to the Hi Vizz jackets they have on. 
> 
> Russ
> 
> 
> On 23/11/2012, at 1:54 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:
> 
>> ?. brought to you by? the chiropractors association of Sweden. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=mqxuEpgQ_FE&NR=1
>> 	Dave
>> 
>> __



From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 23 07:20:47 2012
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 07:20:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] =?utf-8?b?VGhpcyBFdmVudOKApi4=?=
In-Reply-To: <761EE895-ED1F-43FD-AC15-DAECD7AEBE2A@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <1353684047.1724.YahooMailClassic@web111710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

At 1:18 is that Dave arriving in the pink limo?????
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Thu, 11/22/12, Russell <russell at ncable.com.au> wrote:


From: Russell <russell at ncable.com.au>
Subject: Re: [SEL] This Event?.
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Thursday, November 22, 2012, 11:33 PM


a very dangerous job that cooking job; as one can tell due to the Hi Vizz jackets they have on. 

Russ


On 23/11/2012, at 1:54 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:

> ?. brought to you by? the chiropractors association of Sweden. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=mqxuEpgQ_FE&NR=1
> ??? Dave
> 
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Nov 23 18:02:06 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 21:02:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?This_Event=E2=80=A6=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <1353684047.1724.YahooMailClassic@web111710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1353684047.1724.YahooMailClassic@web111710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6c8136f1f2deabff446c6b5dd531243e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

If it is, he's riding with Bambi & Nitro...

On Fri, November 23, 2012 10:20 am, Alan wrote:
> At 1:18 is that Dave arriving in the pink limo?????
> ??
> Alan in Michigan
>
> --- On Thu, 11/22/12, Russell <russell at ncable.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> From: Russell <russell at ncable.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [SEL] This Event???.
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: Thursday, November 22, 2012, 11:33 PM
>
>
> a very dangerous job that cooking job; as one can tell due to the Hi Vizz
> jackets they have on.
>
> Russ
>
>
> On 23/11/2012, at 1:54 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:
>
>> ???. brought to you by??? the chiropractors association of Sweden. See:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=mqxuEpgQ_FE&NR=1
>> ?????? Dave
>>
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>
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Nov 23 18:42:10 2012
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:42:10 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Prices on ebay
Message-ID: <8FD75254EF3E4B3484B66B1EACBCB556@clientsbfbec0d>

I have a few manuals and books on Ebay, one item it still available from Plough Book Sales here in Oz for $11, the bids at the moment are $67. Must be a hobby newbie.
It is a repro ROSEBERY TYPE C - 2,3,4,6HP INSTRUCTION BOOK, nothing special. 

Peter

From russell at ncable.com.au  Fri Nov 23 19:27:01 2012
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:27:01 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Prices on ebay
In-Reply-To: <8FD75254EF3E4B3484B66B1EACBCB556@clientsbfbec0d>
References: <8FD75254EF3E4B3484B66B1EACBCB556@clientsbfbec0d>
Message-ID: <9D935CC1-7E8E-41DB-B097-AF64E138C6B2@ncable.com.au>

Peter around 4 months ago I saw a 1905 Hornsby booklet; (36 page, original with great hi quality photos and good info) on ebay. I am a keen hornsby collector and did not have anything like that. I had an idea on value for this being around $75 to $85.00 Well I thought it would go at a hi price but I really wanted it so I had a proper crack at it and won it. I paid $180 dollars for it. Well above my idea on price which within a few engine mates cop plenty of slack and sledging for my behaviour. Well bugger me if the same booklet has just been completed again on ebay -  see below

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/281020933536?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_620wt_1167

$1009.00 dollars .................. WOW WEEE .......

My wife has suggested I put mine back up with a $750 by it now. 
You just never know whats going to happen on ebay I tell you.
regards Russell

PS: I'll keep my copy .........



On 24/11/2012, at 1:42 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:

> I have a few manuals and books on Ebay, one item it still available from Plough Book Sales here in Oz for $11, the bids at the moment are $67. Must be a hobby newbie.
> It is a repro ROSEBERY TYPE C - 2,3,4,6HP INSTRUCTION BOOK, nothing special. 
> 
> Peter
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Nov 23 20:01:05 2012
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:01:05 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Prices on ebay
References: <8FD75254EF3E4B3484B66B1EACBCB556@clientsbfbec0d>
	<9D935CC1-7E8E-41DB-B097-AF64E138C6B2@ncable.com.au>
Message-ID: <F5557F0E3EFA426DB92D999850FDD39B@clientsbfbec0d>

Hi Russell
Yes it can go crazy, we bought an R&V catalog for $800, had if 
proffessionaly re-printed, sold 50 copies, the guy that bankrolled the deal 
got the original and we got copies at $50ea. Hard to tell the copies from 
the original except that it had re-printed and the date inside to cover. 
Curt Andree and others helped with this deal.
There were a few of us bidding agianst each other, so rather than just 
jacking the price we still got copies, I only wanted the R&V info, not the 
original.
Peter


> Peter around 4 months ago I saw a 1905 Hornsby booklet; (36 page, original 
> with great hi quality photos and good info) on ebay. I am a keen hornsby 
> collector and did not have anything like that. I had an idea on value for 
> this being around $75 to $85.00 Well I thought it would go at a hi price 
> but I really wanted it so I had a proper crack at it and won it. I paid 
> $180 dollars for it. Well above my idea on price which within a few engine 
> mates cop plenty of slack and sledging for my behaviour. Well bugger me if 
> the same booklet has just been completed again on ebay -  see below
>
> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/281020933536?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_620wt_1167
>
> $1009.00 dollars .................. WOW WEEE .......
>
> My wife has suggested I put mine back up with a $750 by it now.
> You just never know whats going to happen on ebay I tell you.
> regards Russell
>
> PS: I'll keep my copy .........
>
>
>
> On 24/11/2012, at 1:42 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:
>
>> I have a few manuals and books on Ebay, one item it still available from 
>> Plough Book Sales here in Oz for $11, the bids at the moment are $67. 
>> Must be a hobby newbie.
>> It is a repro ROSEBERY TYPE C - 2,3,4,6HP INSTRUCTION BOOK, nothing 
>> special.
>>
>> Peter
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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sat Nov 24 17:40:32 2012
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 17:40:32 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Feed grinder cutters
Message-ID: <20121124.174128.1555.21330@mailpop04.vgs.untd.com>

Hi all.
I have an old feed grinder that I have had for over 25 years.  When I got
it one cutter was missing and the other was broken with just one section
there.  I finally decided to get it going.  It appears to be a Dempster
No 1 feed grinder.  Where can I get some new cutters for it?  Thanks.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
____________________________________________________________
Woman is 53 But Looks 25
Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50b17781a1a4b77811eb7st03vuc

From rdi at rochester.rr.com  Sun Nov 25 06:05:57 2012
From: rdi at rochester.rr.com (Rick I.)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:05:57 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Prices on ebay
Message-ID: <D25381A5C8264A64A42422F2A875BFDB@marlin>

Russell writes:

>1905 Hornsby booklet...I had an idea on value for this being around $75 to 
>$85.00...I paid $180 dollars for it. Well above my idea on price... the 
>same booklet has just been completed again on ebay ...$1009.00 dollars

Wow!!  You never know what price stuff like that will go for; that seller 
just happened to hit it on the right day it seems, when 6 or 7 people all 
happened to be looking at the same time!  I have a Taylor Vacuum engine, and 
there's very little in the way of literature.  There is one rare single-page 
folded pamphlet printed yellow/green, and in about 7 years of looking, I've 
found this one for sale only 3 times, once in person, and twice on eBay.  In 
all cases it was between $35 and $38, way more than I wanted to spend for a 
single page flyer; like someone mentioned, I just wanted a copy of the info, 
not necessarily the historic pamphlet.  Well, this summer, I stumbled on 
another one on eBay- I got it for only $6.20 !!!  I guess nobody was looking 
for it when I bought it (end of May), maybe too busy working on their 
engines for the summer show season?

-Rick I.
http://www.oldengine.org/members/inzero/





From gop4evr at lsol.net  Tue Nov 27 13:46:48 2012
From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:46:48 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Auger?
Message-ID: <6E741201-77BB-464D-B472-6C092BB7DA13@lsol.net>

I have a project going that "may" be engine-related, and I need help finding something --

I need a section of about 4" diameter auger about 12-15" long.  Like what is used in grain augers.  I'm sitting here wondering what type of old iron related equipment I could procure this from.  Any ideas?  Anyone have something like this?  Off list . . . .


Nels Johnsrud
Manitowoc WI
gop4evr at lsol.net








From rdhaskell at juno.com  Tue Nov 27 19:11:04 2012
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:11:04 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Feed grinder cutters
Message-ID: <20121127.191112.1560.26405@mailpop17.vgs.untd.com>

Hi all.
Still looking for the cast iron cutting discs for my Dempster #1 feed
grinder.  Any ideas?

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
____________________________________________________________
Woman is 53 But Looks 25
Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50b58109c1df21093f84st04vuc


From curt at rustyiron.com  Tue Nov 27 19:18:26 2012
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:18:26 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Auger?
In-Reply-To: <6E741201-77BB-464D-B472-6C092BB7DA13@lsol.net>
References: <6E741201-77BB-464D-B472-6C092BB7DA13@lsol.net>
Message-ID: <2e96a678dddfa10ac291dfa2fc464f7a.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>


Nels,
Not sure what you'll be conveying, but if you don't find something ready
made, consider making your own. A round bar or pipe and a hand full of
doughnut rings of sheetmetal. Cut them 4" OD and the ID to match the round
bar or pipe's OD. Then a single radial cut in each ring. Slide the rings
on the bar or pipe and stretch axially. Tack weld. Then stretch the next
and attach to the first, and so on.

I was studying how the screw conveyor under our Pangborn shot blast
machine at work was made, and this is the method they used.
Wouldn't take much to just make the short auger you are after.

Curt Holland
Bessemer City, NC

> I have a project going that "may" be engine-related, and I need help
> finding something --
>
> I need a section of about 4" diameter auger about 12-15" long.  Like what
> is used in grain augers.  I'm sitting here wondering what type of old iron
> related equipment I could procure this from.  Any ideas?  Anyone have
> something like this?  Off list . . . .
>
>
> Nels Johnsrud
> Manitowoc WI
> gop4evr at lsol.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From rotigel at me.com  Tue Nov 27 21:37:40 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:37:40 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Auger?
In-Reply-To: <2e96a678dddfa10ac291dfa2fc464f7a.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
References: <6E741201-77BB-464D-B472-6C092BB7DA13@lsol.net>
	<2e96a678dddfa10ac291dfa2fc464f7a.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
Message-ID: <6D8CC1BE-448D-4550-A023-739A5BB5FEC3@me.com>

Would this not start WWll all over again?
	Dave

On Nov 27, 2012, at 10:18 PM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote:

> 
>  Slide the rings on the bar or pipe and stretch axially. 


From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Tue Nov 27 22:17:37 2012
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 17:17:37 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Auger?
References: <6E741201-77BB-464D-B472-6C092BB7DA13@lsol.net><2e96a678dddfa10ac291dfa2fc464f7a.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
	<6D8CC1BE-448D-4550-A023-739A5BB5FEC3@me.com>
Message-ID: <B1CD5C5D93494F79BE984FC974EC4A8A@regpc>

Aw, Dave, mate,.................
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Auger?


> Would this not start WWll all over again?
> Dave
> 
> On Nov 27, 2012, at 10:18 PM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote:
> 
>> 
>>  Slide the rings on the bar or pipe and stretch axially. 
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From gop4evr at lsol.net  Wed Nov 28 09:51:53 2012
From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:51:53 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Auger?
In-Reply-To: <2e96a678dddfa10ac291dfa2fc464f7a.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
References: <6E741201-77BB-464D-B472-6C092BB7DA13@lsol.net>
	<2e96a678dddfa10ac291dfa2fc464f7a.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
Message-ID: <59B25C04-EC5D-4396-9F82-1B51FB7C439A@lsol.net>

Thanks Curt.  I suppose that could be done, especially since in the place I work, part of the manufacturing process begins in the machines as a round blank cut from a spool of sheet stock.  It would be a simple matter to acquire a few round blanks of an appropriate size.

I'm actually building a finished cabinet in our rear entry as a bin for storage of the wood pellets we use for heating.  Instead of a sliding door at the bottom to dump into the scuttle pail, I hit on the idea of using an auger, which has the advantage of halting the flow the moment you stop turning.  I thought there would be less opportunity for a spill.  If turning it with a crank is too time consuming or labor intensive, I have a small gear motor here that could be adapted for the purpose.  I don't want to go all Willie Wonka on this though.  A simple auger in a piece of PVC with a hand crank is simple enough, but a microprocessor controlled servo motor is probably above and beyond the call.  ;-)

And for Dave, we'll just call it my little "Manhattan Project."  ;-)


Nels Johnsrud
Manitowoc WI
gop4evr at lsol.net




On Nov 27, 2012, at 9:18 PM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote:

> 
> Nels,
> Not sure what you'll be conveying, but if you don't find something ready
> made, consider making your own. A round bar or pipe and a hand full of
> doughnut rings of sheetmetal. Cut them 4" OD and the ID to match the round
> bar or pipe's OD. Then a single radial cut in each ring. Slide the rings
> on the bar or pipe and stretch axially. Tack weld. Then stretch the next
> and attach to the first, and so on.
> 
> I was studying how the screw conveyor under our Pangborn shot blast
> machine at work was made, and this is the method they used.
> Wouldn't take much to just make the short auger you are after.
> 
> Curt Holland
> Bessemer City, NC
> 
>> I have a project going that "may" be engine-related, and I need help
>> finding something --
>> 
>> I need a section of about 4" diameter auger about 12-15" long.  Like what
>> is used in grain augers.  I'm sitting here wondering what type of old iron
>> related equipment I could procure this from.  Any ideas?  Anyone have
>> something like this?  Off list . . . .
>> 
>> 
>> Nels Johnsrud
>> Manitowoc WI
>> gop4evr at lsol.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
> 
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From b2 at chooka.net  Wed Nov 28 12:17:49 2012
From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:17:49 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Auger?
In-Reply-To: <59B25C04-EC5D-4396-9F82-1B51FB7C439A@lsol.net>
References: <6E741201-77BB-464D-B472-6C092BB7DA13@lsol.net>	<2e96a678dddfa10ac291dfa2fc464f7a.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
	<59B25C04-EC5D-4396-9F82-1B51FB7C439A@lsol.net>
Message-ID: <002d01cdcda5$6fd9b910$4f8d2b30$@net>

Nels, small augers are a give-away at farm auctions...nobody wants them.
You'd have the whole works, including drive mechanism, all worked out that
way.  We just sold a longer version, an 8 incher and on wheels that would
reach bins, at a family estate sale.  A little patched up but still worked.
The scrap buyer got it.

Around these parts every major auction company has periodic consignment
sales, some twice a year, some every couple of months.  Seldom is there a
sale without at least one auger on it.

Bill Brueck
   Pine Island, MN USA

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Nelson
Johnsrud
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 11:52 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Auger?

Thanks Curt.  I suppose that could be done, especially since in the place I
work, part of the manufacturing process begins in the machines as a round
blank cut from a spool of sheet stock.  It would be a simple matter to
acquire a few round blanks of an appropriate size.

I'm actually building a finished cabinet in our rear entry as a bin for
storage of the wood pellets we use for heating.  Instead of a sliding door
at the bottom to dump into the scuttle pail, I hit on the idea of using an
auger, which has the advantage of halting the flow the moment you stop
turning.  I thought there would be less opportunity for a spill.  If turning
it with a crank is too time consuming or labor intensive, I have a small
gear motor here that could be adapted for the purpose.  I don't want to go
all Willie Wonka on this though.  A simple auger in a piece of PVC with a
hand crank is simple enough, but a microprocessor controlled servo motor is
probably above and beyond the call.  ;-)

And for Dave, we'll just call it my little "Manhattan Project."  ;-)


Nels Johnsrud
Manitowoc WI
gop4evr at lsol.net




On Nov 27, 2012, at 9:18 PM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote:

> 
> Nels,
> Not sure what you'll be conveying, but if you don't find something 
> ready made, consider making your own. A round bar or pipe and a hand 
> full of doughnut rings of sheetmetal. Cut them 4" OD and the ID to 
> match the round bar or pipe's OD. Then a single radial cut in each 
> ring. Slide the rings on the bar or pipe and stretch axially. Tack 
> weld. Then stretch the next and attach to the first, and so on.
> 
> I was studying how the screw conveyor under our Pangborn shot blast 
> machine at work was made, and this is the method they used.
> Wouldn't take much to just make the short auger you are after.
> 
> Curt Holland
> Bessemer City, NC
> 
>> I have a project going that "may" be engine-related, and I need help 
>> finding something --
>> 
>> I need a section of about 4" diameter auger about 12-15" long.  Like 
>> what is used in grain augers.  I'm sitting here wondering what type 
>> of old iron related equipment I could procure this from.  Any ideas?  
>> Anyone have something like this?  Off list . . . .
>> 
>> 
>> Nels Johnsrud
>> Manitowoc WI
>> gop4evr at lsol.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From rotigel at me.com  Wed Nov 28 17:36:31 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:36:31 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Auger?
In-Reply-To: <B1CD5C5D93494F79BE984FC974EC4A8A@regpc>
References: <6E741201-77BB-464D-B472-6C092BB7DA13@lsol.net>
	<2e96a678dddfa10ac291dfa2fc464f7a.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
	<6D8CC1BE-448D-4550-A023-739A5BB5FEC3@me.com>
	<B1CD5C5D93494F79BE984FC974EC4A8A@regpc>
Message-ID: <C94C73C2-D149-4B08-BEC9-5EE4C8A2EBBE@me.com>

It's hell Reg when you and I are the only ones old enough to understand!
	Dave

On Nov 28, 2012, at 1:17 AM, Reg Ingold wrote:

> Aw, Dave, mate,.................
> Reg & Marg Ingold
> Newcastle NSW Australia
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 4:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Auger?
> 
> 
>> Would this not start WWll all over again?
>> Dave
>> 
>> On Nov 27, 2012, at 10:18 PM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Slide the rings on the bar or pipe and stretch axially. 
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From obise at moscow.com  Wed Nov 28 23:09:10 2012
From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 23:09:10 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Oldengine.org server down?
Message-ID: <50B70A16.10400@moscow.com>

I just went to take a look at some pictures that are stored on 
oldengine.org and they come up blank. Then, I tried Web sites that are 
hosted there and couldn't reach them.  Does anyone know what is wrong?

Orrin

-- 
Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.



From levans44 at roadrunner.com  Thu Nov 29 08:31:47 2012
From: levans44 at roadrunner.com (Larry Evans)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:31:47 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Oldengine.org server down?
In-Reply-To: <50B70A16.10400@moscow.com>
References: <50B70A16.10400@moscow.com>
Message-ID: <50B78DF3.1010207@roadrunner.com>

Orrin, it seems to be up and working fine now.  It probably was down for 
maintenance for awhile.

Larry

On 11/28/2012 11:09 PM, Orrin Iseminger wrote:
> I just went to take a look at some pictures that are stored on
> oldengine.org and they come up blank. Then, I tried Web sites that are
> hosted there and couldn't reach them.  Does anyone know what is wrong?
>
> Orrin
>
>    

-- 
Larry Evans
MailTo:LEVANS44 at roadrunner.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/



From obise at moscow.com  Thu Nov 29 09:17:13 2012
From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:17:13 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Oldengine.org server down?
In-Reply-To: <50B78DF3.1010207@roadrunner.com>
References: <50B70A16.10400@moscow.com> <50B78DF3.1010207@roadrunner.com>
Message-ID: <50B79899.3080600@moscow.com>

Thank you for the feedback, Larry.  It is working for me, too, this 
morning. Last night, I wasn't able to access our antique power club's 
Web site and it threw me into a panic.  I'm responsible for its upkeep.
     Best regards,
     Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.

On 11/29/2012 8:31 AM, Larry Evans wrote:
> Orrin, it seems to be up and working fine now.  It probably was down for
> maintenance for awhile.
>
> Larry
>
> On 11/28/2012 11:09 PM, Orrin Iseminger wrote:
>> I just went to take a look at some pictures that are stored on
>> oldengine.org and they come up blank. Then, I tried Web sites that are
>> hosted there and couldn't reach them.  Does anyone know what is wrong?
>>
>> Orrin
>>
>>