From jrwright at adam.com.au Sun Jan 1 03:14:53 2012 From: jrwright at adam.com.au (John Wright) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 21:44:53 +1030 Subject: [SEL] Restoration Request for Information Message-ID: <007301ccc876$96155ba0$c24012e0$@com.au> Hi to all on the list. I have been a silent member a little over 12 months, and enjoy the discussion on the list. It has now come to the time where I am seeking assistance from the group on a number of restoration issues. Olds Type 4A 6hp circa 1904 (Approx as best as I can work out.) Can anyone advise me of the clearance required between the bore and the piston. The bore is scored and needs to be sleeved likewise the piston will need to be ground. I intend to have the piston ground removing enough material to remove the score marks. Hopefully I will get away with removing about 0.02" (20 thou) of the piston. That will make the piston 20 thou undersize. The original size bore is 5.5" Mostinger Auto Sparker I am in the process of restoring a Motsinger Auto Sparker which I intend to put on the Olds. Unfortunately it needs a complete electrical rebuild. (i.e. new coils and the armature rewound) As well as a new governor being required. Can anyone assist with coil winding information. (i.e. number of turns, turns per layer, coil start and finish, direction of winding and connection details) Ronaldson & Tippet 3hp type N Hopper Cooled (one for the Oz boys) What is the correct colour for the engine? Is there a correct name for the green? Being tapered roller bearings on the crankshaft how is the end float set up? Is there any pre load required on the bearings? The cylinder needs to be sleeved due to rust pits in the bore. The bore is 3.5" and the piston which is serviceable is 5 thou under 3.5" i.e. 3.495" Likewise as for the Olds what is the clearance require between the piston and the cylinder. Many Thanks Regards John W Greenhill South Australia From jbcast at charter.net Sun Jan 1 03:50:16 2012 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 06:50:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Restoration Request for Information Message-ID: <51c78a05.bbd98.134991b1868.Webtop.48@charter.net> The sleeves I use come .030" under standard bore, this is to give you some room for error when setting up and doing the final bore. I usually machine .010" off the piston and leave the bore.010 under to have a like new fit. I never machine a piston untill I make sure the bore clears. If I were to go .020 under I would hone the .010 out of the new sleeve, little chance for error. .001 per inch clearance, .0055" in your case should be OK. I don't think it's necessary to grind the pistons, they usually machine very well, remember to remove the same amount all the way up on each ring land. The top land is usually .020-.030" smaller than the bore. J.B. Castagnos On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:14 AM, John Wright wrote: > Hi to all on the list. > > > I have been a silent member a little over 12 months, and enjoy the > discussion on the list. > > It has now come to the time where I am seeking assistance from the > group on > a number of restoration issues. > > > Olds Type 4A 6hp circa 1904 (Approx as best as I can work out.) > > Can anyone advise me of the clearance required between the bore and > the > piston. > > The bore is scored and needs to be sleeved likewise the piston will > need to > be ground. > I intend to have the piston ground removing enough material to remove > the > score marks. > > Hopefully I will get away with removing about 0.02" (20 thou) of the > piston. > That will make the piston 20 thou undersize. > > The original size bore is 5.5" > > Mostinger Auto Sparker > > I am in the process of restoring a Motsinger Auto Sparker which I > intend to > put on the Olds. > > Unfortunately it needs a complete electrical rebuild. (i.e. new coils > and > the armature rewound) As well as a new governor being required. > > Can anyone assist with coil winding information. > (i.e. number of turns, turns per layer, coil start and finish, > direction of > winding and connection details) > > Ronaldson & Tippet 3hp type N Hopper Cooled (one for the Oz boys) > > What is the correct colour for the engine? Is there a correct name > for the > green? > > Being tapered roller bearings on the crankshaft how is the end float > set up? > > Is there any pre load required on the bearings? > > The cylinder needs to be sleeved due to rust pits in the bore. > > The bore is 3.5" and the piston which is serviceable is 5 thou under > 3.5" > i.e. 3.495" > > Likewise as for the Olds what is the clearance require between the > piston > and the cylinder. > > > Many Thanks > > Regards > > John W > > Greenhill > > South Australia > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From asouth42 at embarqmail.com Sun Jan 1 06:43:28 2012 From: asouth42 at embarqmail.com (Arthur Southwell) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 09:43:28 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. 1-1-2012 Message-ID: <8C3D923BF8AC4CC1976061D65D40F20B@ArthurHP2> HAPPY NEW YEAR SEL LIST. Arthur Southwell Arcadia, FL 34266 USA asouth42 at embarqmail.com From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jan 1 09:25:02 2012 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 12:25:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Restoration Request for Information In-Reply-To: <007301ccc876$96155ba0$c24012e0$@com.au> References: <007301ccc876$96155ba0$c24012e0$@com.au> Message-ID: <6b7ef0d1b022be0b9846a3da85422d4b.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Hi John, Welcome to an active role on the list!! 8-)) Rather than bore / sleeve the cylinder and grinding down the piston, why not consider just boring the cylinder and building up the piston by flame spraying? This was the process that Craig Prucha used on my Bessemer half-breed. It worked REALLY well. See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA USA fero_ah at city-net.com On Sun, January 1, 2012 6:14 am, John Wright wrote: > > Olds Type 4A 6hp circa 1904 (Approx as best as I can work out.) > > Can anyone advise me of the clearance required between the bore and the > piston. > > The bore is scored and needs to be sleeved likewise the piston will need > to be ground. > > I intend to have the piston ground removing enough material to remove the > score marks. > > Hopefully I will get away with removing about 0.02" (20 thou) of the > piston. That will make the piston 20 thou undersize. > > The original size bore is 5.5" From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Sun Jan 1 12:51:51 2012 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (Craig Morrison) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 20:51:51 -0000 Subject: [SEL] Happy New Year & Wingate University Message-ID: <75E8A01422C640128E308ED2809A5D2E@craig8b4f43368> Hi Everyone, I sure hope that everyone has enjoyed celebrating the new year by drinking and eat to excess as well as running that all important engine as close to the appointed time as possible. Well tonight whilst watching tv I stumbled across the final of the worlds strongest man ,where is this leading I can here yourself ask, well it was held in the grounds of Wingate University NC ( not all that unusual) but the thing that surprised me the most was that "neither of the ROYSTER brothers were amongst the competitors.Being as it was in there area I would have thought they would have been there to represent the SEL and show those guys who was the mightiest. Best wishes, Craig P.S; May everyone have happy and safe enjoyable shows again this year From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jan 1 14:17:09 2012 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 17:17:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Happy New Year & Wingate University In-Reply-To: <75E8A01422C640128E308ED2809A5D2E@craig8b4f43368> References: <75E8A01422C640128E308ED2809A5D2E@craig8b4f43368> Message-ID: <2910FCB24DD94E85811581DC1E88CA3B@RoysterPC> Hi Craig and all: Yes it was quite the contest and we usually place pretty well in it, since Steve provides the judges with arthritis medicine while there. But this year Steve was in Florida and I had business to address so we were unable to attend. Perhaps there is a similar event in Scotland that you frequent and would like to regale us with your win/loss record? Happy New Year to you all! Mike (the good brother for today) Royster From: Craig Morrison Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 3:51 PM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com Cc: Steve Royster ; Mike Royster Subject: Happy New Year & Wingate University Hi Everyone, I sure hope that everyone has enjoyed celebrating the new year by drinking and eat to excess as well as running that all important engine as close to the appointed time as possible. Well tonight whilst watching tv I stumbled across the final of the worlds strongest man ,where is this leading I can here yourself ask, well it was held in the grounds of Wingate University NC ( not all that unusual) but the thing that surprised me the most was that "neither of the ROYSTER brothers were amongst the competitors.Being as it was in there area I would have thought they would have been there to represent the SEL and show those guys who was the mightiest. Best wishes, Craig P.S; May everyone have happy and safe enjoyable shows again this year From kkinney at herculesengines.com Sun Jan 1 14:30:12 2012 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (kkinney at herculesengines.com) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 16:30:12 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Happy New Year & Wingate University In-Reply-To: <75E8A01422C640128E308ED2809A5D2E@craig8b4f43368> References: <75E8A01422C640128E308ED2809A5D2E@craig8b4f43368> Message-ID: <8690D484-0156-4A24-9170-F274F6F4E546@herculesengines.com> Craig I'm sure if they had a contest for the strongest mouth they would have won hands down. Keith On Jan 1, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Craig Morrison wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I sure hope that everyone has enjoyed celebrating the new year by drinking and eat to excess as well as running that all important engine as close to the appointed time as possible. > Well tonight whilst watching tv I stumbled across the final of the worlds strongest man ,where is this leading I can here yourself ask, well it was held in the grounds of Wingate University NC ( not all that unusual) but the thing that surprised me the most was that "neither of the ROYSTER brothers were amongst the competitors.Being as it was in there area I would have thought they would have been there to represent the SEL and show those guys who was the mightiest. > > Best wishes, Craig > > P.S; May everyone have happy and safe enjoyable shows again this year > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From tchristoff at earthlink.net Sun Jan 1 15:52:02 2012 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 17:52:02 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [SEL] Happy New Year & Wingate University Message-ID: <17573599.1325461923039.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net> No doubt having a blue tarp issue. Tim Christoff -----Original Message----- >From: Mike Royster >Sent: Jan 1, 2012 4:17 PM >To: Craig Morrison , SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >Subject: Re: [SEL] Happy New Year & Wingate University > > >and I had business to address so we were unable to attend. < >Mike (the good brother for today) Royster > Tim Christoff From curt at rustyiron.com Sun Jan 1 19:59:38 2012 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 19:59:38 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Happy New Year & Wingate University In-Reply-To: <8690D484-0156-4A24-9170-F274F6F4E546@herculesengines.com> References: <75E8A01422C640128E308ED2809A5D2E@craig8b4f43368> <8690D484-0156-4A24-9170-F274F6F4E546@herculesengines.com> Message-ID: <8e6a79eecfd4aaa67412e6916eb6716d.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> > Craig > I'm sure if they had a contest for the strongest mouth .... > Keith Keith, I thought this was a family list! :-) Curt H From curt at rustyiron.com Sun Jan 1 21:55:57 2012 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 21:55:57 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Restoration Request for Information In-Reply-To: <6b7ef0d1b022be0b9846a3da85422d4b.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <007301ccc876$96155ba0$c24012e0$@com.au> <6b7ef0d1b022be0b9846a3da85422d4b.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: <258f604e17c1f2c87dd510a24aeecfa9.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> Welcome John, I'll echo what Arnie said. It's a shame to bore out precious cylinder wall thickness, weakening the cylinder wall. Flame spray as Arnie mentioned or even better, venture into the world of pattern making and cast a new oversize piston. It's really a fairly painless process. Here is one of several I've done. Curt Holland Bessemer City, NC USA > Hi John, > > Welcome to an active role on the list!! 8-)) > > Rather than bore / sleeve the cylinder and grinding > down the piston, why not consider just boring the cylinder > and building up the piston by flame spraying? This was the > process that Craig Prucha used on my Bessemer half-breed. > > It worked REALLY well. > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA USA > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > On Sun, January 1, 2012 6:14 am, John Wright wrote: >> >> Olds Type 4A 6hp circa 1904 (Approx as best as I can work out.) >> >> Can anyone advise me of the clearance required between the bore and the >> piston. >> >> The bore is scored and needs to be sleeved likewise the piston will need >> to be ground. >> >> I intend to have the piston ground removing enough material to remove >> the >> score marks. >> >> Hopefully I will get away with removing about 0.02" (20 thou) of the >> piston. That will make the piston 20 thou undersize. >> >> The original size bore is 5.5" > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From marinesurveys at msn.com Sun Jan 1 23:11:48 2012 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 02:11:48 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Restoration Request for Information In-Reply-To: <258f604e17c1f2c87dd510a24aeecfa9.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> References: <007301ccc876$96155ba0$c24012e0$@com.au>, <6b7ef0d1b022be0b9846a3da85422d4b.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>, <258f604e17c1f2c87dd510a24aeecfa9.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> Message-ID: Curt; Thats great looking work, congrats. What foundry did you use? and do they cast brass / bronze ? Best Regards Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 21:55:57 -0800 > From: curt at rustyiron.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Restoration Request for Information > > > Welcome John, > I'll echo what Arnie said. It's a shame to bore out precious cylinder wall > thickness, weakening the cylinder wall. Flame spray as Arnie mentioned or > even better, venture into the world of pattern making and cast a new > oversize piston. It's really a fairly painless process. Here is one of > several I've done. > > Curt Holland > Bessemer City, NC USA > > > > Hi John, > > > > Welcome to an active role on the list!! 8-)) > > > > Rather than bore / sleeve the cylinder and grinding > > down the piston, why not consider just boring the cylinder > > and building up the piston by flame spraying? This was the > > process that Craig Prucha used on my Bessemer half-breed. > > > > It worked REALLY well. > > > > See ya, Arnie > > > > Arnie Fero > > Pittsburgh, PA USA > > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > > > On Sun, January 1, 2012 6:14 am, John Wright wrote: > >> > >> Olds Type 4A 6hp circa 1904 (Approx as best as I can work out.) > >> > >> Can anyone advise me of the clearance required between the bore and the > >> piston. > >> > >> The bore is scored and needs to be sleeved likewise the piston will need > >> to be ground. > >> > >> I intend to have the piston ground removing enough material to remove > >> the > >> score marks. > >> > >> Hopefully I will get away with removing about 0.02" (20 thou) of the > >> piston. That will make the piston 20 thou undersize. > >> > >> The original size bore is 5.5" > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Jan 2 12:37:10 2012 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 22:37:10 +0200 Subject: [SEL] New Year startup video Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20120102220709.00c564f0@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Hi Everyone, It's a bit late but I've put a video of our New Year 2012 startup here: It's 7.7 MBytes and about the lowest resolution I could get to for the web so, I apologise for the low res. but have to consider those of us who do not have the quickest connections. Instead of clicking on the above link it is best to right click and choose to save the file to your computer for viewing later - resolution gets even worse when viewed in a browser. On the same subject, if my voice sounds a bit slurred, it's only because of the low resolution file and has nothing whatsoever to do with the amount of alcohol consumed at the time. (If you believe that, I'd love to hear from you "off list" as I also have a bridge for sale! :-)) Keep well everyone and belated "HAPPY NEW YEAR" With love from Jerry and Jacqui From ddotto at cableone.net Mon Jan 2 12:59:41 2012 From: ddotto at cableone.net (Dave Otto) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 13:59:41 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New Year startup video In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20120102220709.00c564f0@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20120102220709.00c564f0@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: <561B267BD56748BDA76F92B0FBCC5323@shop> Hi Jerry & Jacqui Great video! And happy new year to you also. Best regards, Dave Dave Otto Boise, Idaho USA -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 1:37 PM To: SEL List Subject: [SEL] New Year startup video Hi Everyone, It's a bit late but I've put a video of our New Year 2012 startup here: It's 7.7 MBytes and about the lowest resolution I could get to for the web so, I apologise for the low res. but have to consider those of us who do not have the quickest connections. Instead of clicking on the above link it is best to right click and choose to save the file to your computer for viewing later - resolution gets even worse when viewed in a browser. On the same subject, if my voice sounds a bit slurred, it's only because of the low resolution file and has nothing whatsoever to do with the amount of alcohol consumed at the time. (If you believe that, I'd love to hear from you "off list" as I also have a bridge for sale! :-)) Keep well everyone and belated "HAPPY NEW YEAR" With love from Jerry and Jacqui _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Tue Jan 3 08:10:49 2012 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:10:49 -0600 Subject: [SEL] New Year's Crankup In-Reply-To: <4EFD19A8.8040509@telus.net> References: <4EFD19A8.8040509@telus.net> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD410FE05C6A3@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Didn't crank up any of my old engines, but did manage to run my 351w a bit. It had a Holley 780 double pumper with mechanical secondaries which had been professionally modified to flow a LOT of gas. Made a lot of HP, but sucked gas bad enough to give me single digit mileage when I took it out for drives. So yesterday I swapped a smaller Holley Street Avenger with vacuum secondaries on it to detune it a bit and maybe at least get double digit mileage. Sounded great but couldn't take it out for a test drive as one of the flare fittings didn't seat right and is dripping a bit of gas. Got to fix the leak and wait for a dry day to take it out for a test. Did have someone stop by yesterday to look at a Vaughan Flex-tred I have advertised. They also have about 50 flywheel engines, but they didn't have anything they were willing to sell or trade. One of those collectors that when they get something it never leaves their collection. I did get to show them some of my flywheel engines in the shed although none were setup to run at the moment. Don't know which engine yet, but I do think I'll seriously try this year to get one of the engines that hasn't run in many years running again. Got several of those to choose from ;-) Someone remind me later this year to follow through on this statement. :-) George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Jan 3 11:05:05 2012 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 21:05:05 +0200 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Totally "off topic"/UPDATE Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20120103205630.01f99320@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Hi All, In December I posted about my mother riding on the Oribi Gorge "Zip Line". There is an article about her ride here: <[1]http://www.fever-blue.co.za/11757/news/article/39my-91st-birthday-w ish39> Jerry Hi All, My mother turned 91 today and she celebrated by going for a ride on this: <[2]http://www.encounter.co.za/what-to-do/adventure/zip-line/> My Mom is the 94 year old (they got the age wrong - poetic licence ??) mentioned in this article: <[3]http://www.iol.co.za/travel/south-africa/kwazulu-natal/zip-zapped-1 .1202206> On Youtube <[4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEdIGORNYAc> but they only show the first part of the ride on this video- it goes a lot further. She absolutely loved the experience - now I'm worried that she may plan a parachute jump next year :-) because both my elder brother and I were paratroopers in the good ole South Africa !!!!!! All for now. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: <[5]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> References 1. http://www.fever-blue.co.za/11757/news/article/39my-91st-birthday-wish39 2. http://www.encounter.co.za/what-to-do/adventure/zip-line/ 3. http://www.iol.co.za/travel/south-africa/kwazulu-natal/zip-zapped-1.1202206 4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEdIGORNYAc 5. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From obise at moscow.com Tue Jan 3 17:01:10 2012 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 17:01:10 -0800 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Totally "off topic"/UPDATE In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20120103205630.01f99320@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20120103205630.01f99320@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: <4F03A4D6.4040106@moscow.com> My word, Jerry! You mom has seen more than her share of hardship. Her spirit must be made of steel. Thank you for sharing the link to her remarkable story. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 1/3/2012 11:05 AM, Jerry Evans wrote: > Hi All, > In December I posted about my mother riding on the Oribi Gorge > "Zip Line". > There is an article about her ride here: > <[1]http://www.fever-blue.co.za/11757/news/article/39my-91st-birthday-w > ish39> > Jerry > Hi All, > My mother turned 91 today and she celebrated by going for a > ride on this: > <[2]http://www.encounter.co.za/what-to-do/adventure/zip-line/> > My Mom is the 94 year old (they got the age wrong - poetic > licence ??) mentioned in this article: > <[3]http://www.iol.co.za/travel/south-africa/kwazulu-natal/zip-zapped-1 > .1202206> > On Youtube<[4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEdIGORNYAc> but > they only show the first part of the ride on this video- it goes a lot > further. > She absolutely loved the experience - now I'm worried that she > may plan a parachute jump next year :-) because both my elder brother > and I were paratroopers in the good ole South Africa !!!!!! > All for now. > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > <[5]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> > > References > > 1. http://www.fever-blue.co.za/11757/news/article/39my-91st-birthday-wish39 > 2. http://www.encounter.co.za/what-to-do/adventure/zip-line/ > 3. http://www.iol.co.za/travel/south-africa/kwazulu-natal/zip-zapped-1.1202206 > 4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEdIGORNYAc > 5. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From swilliams268 at frontier.com Wed Jan 4 03:44:21 2012 From: swilliams268 at frontier.com (Steve W.) Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 06:44:21 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Hello??? Message-ID: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> Anyone out there??? -- Steve W. From cgandree at mchsi.com Wed Jan 4 04:23:03 2012 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 06:23:03 -0600 (CST) Subject: [SEL] Hello??? In-Reply-To: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> Message-ID: <1042438351.13282861325679783674.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Hey Steve whats matter too much New Years Cheer????? Yes, I hear you loud and clear. Curt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve W." To: "ATIS LIST" , "Engine list" Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 5:44:21 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [SEL] Hello??? Anyone out there??? -- Steve W. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From n8vqe at frontier.com Wed Jan 4 07:15:24 2012 From: n8vqe at frontier.com (Carl Casdorph) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:15:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Hello??? In-Reply-To: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> Message-ID: <5519116B-2184-47A3-BA4F-9B72C863F30A@frontier.com> Just nod if you can hear me. Sorry couldn't resist the Pink Floyd comment. I'm at the hospital with Carmen for her surgery, they just took her back to the OR. Have you got the 20 HP running yet? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:44 AM, "Steve W." wrote: > Anyone out there??? > > -- > Steve W. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From n8vqe at frontier.com Wed Jan 4 07:20:37 2012 From: n8vqe at frontier.com (Carl Casdorph) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:20:37 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Hello??? In-Reply-To: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> Message-ID: Oops sorry I didn't realize that went to the list. I have a buddy that goes by Steve W and I thought that was him. But he is working on a 20 HP Reid so it is kinda engine related. Later, CarlC On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:44 AM, "Steve W." wrote: > Anyone out there??? > > -- > Steve W. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Thu Jan 5 15:12:47 2012 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (Craig Morrison) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 23:12:47 -0000 Subject: [SEL] hot tube chimneys Message-ID: Guys, What type of material should we be using for lining a hot tube chimney, as I have a buddy that has a few that have no linings in them and he feels that he is losing a lot of heat because of this, bearing in mind that it is quite a bit colder here in the U.K even in our so called summer. Thanks, craig From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Thu Jan 5 15:35:04 2012 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (gasenginetom at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 18:35:04 -0500 Subject: [SEL] hot tube chimneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Asbestos Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Craig Morrison To: Stationary Engine List Sent: Thu, Jan 5, 2012 23:12:47 GMT+00:00 Subject: [SEL] hot tube chimneys Guys, What type of material should we be using for lining a hot tube chimney, as I have a buddy that has a few that have no linings in them and he feels that he is losing a lot of heat because of this, bearing in mind that it is quite a bit colder here in the U.K even in our so called summer. Thanks, craig _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Jan 5 16:44:10 2012 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 16:44:10 -0800 Subject: [SEL] hot tube chimneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jan 5, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Craig Morrison wrote: > Guys, > > What type of material should we be using for lining a hot tube chimney, as I have a buddy that has a few that have no linings in them and he feels that he is losing a lot of heat because of this, bearing in mind that it is quite a bit colder here in the U.K even in our so called summer. Hi, Craig. I?ve used some ceramic insulation sheets. It looks like felt, but it?s white. I?ve found that the insulation doesn?t make much difference at all here in SoCal. What makes a big difference for me is the wind. I have a couple engines, that when running at slow speed and not very hot, even a slight breeze on a warm day can kill them. Wind barriers, or a tractor guy standing on the windward side, might do the most good. Tractor guys produce a lot of wind on their own, so you have to be careful around an open flame. Rob From bakermonitor1932 at hotmail.com Fri Jan 6 02:07:21 2012 From: bakermonitor1932 at hotmail.com (Devin Holland) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 10:07:21 +0000 Subject: [SEL] hello sel@lists.stationary-engine.com Message-ID: hey sel at lists.stationary-engine.com I cant imagine doing anything else http://www.newsonthefly10.com From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 6 17:05:37 2012 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 17:05:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] McCormick Deering LA engine color decision Message-ID: <1325898337.2660.YahooMailClassic@web111712.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Here is the document ? http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/libraryarchives/ihc/paint/display.asp?pageurl=115_01.gif ? Alan in Michigan From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 7 15:16:23 2012 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (=?utf-8?B?c2x1Z2dvNTRAaG90bWFpbC5jb20=?=) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:16:23 -0600 Subject: [SEL] =?utf-8?q?_McCormick_Deering_LA_engine_color_decision?= Message-ID: Did you notice the name of the third member of the paint committee? Great name for an engine guy - Babbit... Bruce Younger Sluggo54 at hotmail.com Oh, look at the cute kitty! From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sat Jan 7 16:29:30 2012 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 16:29:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] McCormick Deering LA engine color decision In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1325982570.33975.YahooMailClassic@web111706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Are you ADD? --- On Sat, 1/7/12, sluggo54 at hotmail.com wrote: Oh, look at the cute kitty! _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Sat Jan 7 18:58:39 2012 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 21:58:39 -0500 Subject: [SEL] McCormick Deering LA engine color decision In-Reply-To: <1325982570.33975.YahooMailClassic@web111706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1325982570.33975.YahooMailClassic@web111706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8ECEF964-A024-47E7-A1A5-D995B35926CE@me.com> It wasn't ADD, it was Bruce! Dave On Jan 7, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Alan wrote: > Are you ADD? > > > --- On Sat, 1/7/12, sluggo54 at hotmail.com wrote: > > > Oh, look at the cute kitty! > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Sun Jan 8 11:17:48 2012 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 13:17:48 -0600 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 94, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > It wasn't ADD, it was Bruce! > Dave > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Alan wrote: > > > Are you ADD? > > > > > > --- On Sat, 1/7/12, sluggo54 at hotmail.com wrote: > > > > > > Oh, look at the cute kitty! Not usually, Alan. That sig is a response to a bunch of pussies (having nothing to do with females, in particular) on another list that manage to offend themselves by reading my usual sig. At times it has gotten downright hilarious. Now and then I try to point out, without being completely direct, that they are - well, pussies. There is another habitue of that list on the SEL, if we are lucky, we will draw out his input. I have been working on alternatives... I am accepting suggestions. I practice the ancient art of Klik Pao. Battle Plan (n) - a list of things that aren't going to happen if you are attacked. Ignorance is a long way from stupid, but left unchecked, can get there real fast. ?The things that will destroy America are peace at any price, prosperity at any cost, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.? Theodore Roosevelt ?Independence is declared; it must be maintained.? Sam Houston-3/2/1836 If I was in a hurry, I would have come yesterday. "If you can't get rid of the skeleton in your closet, you'd best teach it to dance." - George Bernard ShawNever let it be said that I left unsaid that which goes without saying. Sometimes I just sit and think. Sometimes I just sit. Great minds like a think. Thanks, Dave! Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jan 8 11:37:12 2012 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 14:37:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 94, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds like fun... On Sun, January 8, 2012 2:17 pm, Bruce Younger wrote: >> > Oh, look at the cute kitty! > > Not usually, Alan. That sig is a response to a bunch of pussies (having > nothing to do with females, in particular) on another list that manage to > offend themselves by reading my usual sig. At times it has gotten > downright hilarious. Now and then I try to point out, without being > completely direct, that they are - well, pussies. > There is another habitue of that list on the SEL, if we are lucky, we will > draw out his input. I have been working on alternatives... I am > accepting suggestions. From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Jan 9 21:09:33 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:09:33 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Saskatchewan Collector Needs Help Message-ID: <20120110050930.46D949863@smtp.wcoil.com> Hi All, I have been handed a letter sent to the Maytag Collectors Club by a Collector in Saskatchewan, Robert Hoglund needing help in finding parts for some engines like a KE Stover T Eaton 1.5 HP / Fairbanks Morse Eclipse / Macleod's 1 3/4 hp / Massey Harris Type 2 / This fellow does not use the internet and does not seem to like to use the phone. He is a letter writer. If you would like to start a correspondence with this fellow give me your snail mail address and I will forward it to the gentleman. Mark S. Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jan 11 17:26:31 2012 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 12:26:31 +1100 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> Message-ID: <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> Some time back early in 2011 I posted a request for anyone with info to contact me in my hunt for a pre 1900 engine. ?? remember ........ lol. Yes you guest it the response was overwhelming. Well thats not quite true I had emailed a couple of chaps of list with some possibilities of people to ring. I did make a few calls. Quite a learning experience when one asks about the real early stuff. Well after much contemplation and the moving out of some other hard ware I have found some space to include this engine to my collection. http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/582151034yacoJF My engine is an Atlas Oil engine made by E Humphries & Co Ld Engineers Pershore, number 153. It is currently the only known example. I is going to need some work for sure but I great project none the less. Picture supplied by Patrick Knight of engine 158 show the missing parts from my engine. How ever everyone who I have spoken to are at a loss to how the engine fires; it's correct ignition and pre heating set up. Documents read the engine is preheated to a point where the engine would run of the hot built heat. It has all the hormarks of a fuel system the same as a Hornsby Akroyd. Yet this engine has an ignitor (which I feel is not correct) that may possibly supposed to be there? Any ideas and thoughts are welcome. I am thinking perhaps some kind of hot tube assembly where it could be heated prior to starting. But the pic of engine 158 does not conclude this either. Maybe the front plate on mine may be non original? regards Russ From lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Jan 11 19:41:17 2012 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 22:41:17 -0500 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: That's going to be one beautiful hunk of iron when you get done! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY USA -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:27 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine Some time back early in 2011 I posted a request for anyone with info to contact me in my hunt for a pre 1900 engine. ?? remember ........ lol. Yes you guest it the response was overwhelming. Well thats not quite true I had emailed a couple of chaps of list with some possibilities of people to ring. I did make a few calls. Quite a learning experience when one asks about the real early stuff. Well after much contemplation and the moving out of some other hard ware I have found some space to include this engine to my collection. http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/582151034yacoJF My engine is an Atlas Oil engine made by E Humphries & Co Ld Engineers Pershore, number 153. It is currently the only known example. I is going to need some work for sure but I great project none the less. Picture supplied by Patrick Knight of engine 158 show the missing parts from my engine. How ever everyone who I have spoken to are at a loss to how the engine fires; it's correct ignition and pre heating set up. Documents read the engine is preheated to a point where the engine would run of the hot built heat. It has all the hormarks of a fuel system the same as a Hornsby Akroyd. Yet this engine has an ignitor (which I feel is not correct) that may possibly supposed to be there? Any ideas and thoughts are welcome. I am thinking perhaps some kind of hot tube assembly where it could be heated prior to starting. But the pic of engine 158 does not conclude this either. Maybe the front plate on mine may be non original? regards Russ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.454 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4133 - Release Date: 01/09/12 19:34:00 From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Jan 11 21:00:10 2012 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 00:00:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <67cb9230d724f2238619e358e78b662d.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> AWESOME Russ!! On Wed, January 11, 2012 8:26 pm, Russell wrote: > Some time back early in 2011 I posted a request for anyone with info to > contact me in my hunt for a pre 1900 engine. From gop4evr at lsol.net Wed Jan 11 23:07:54 2012 From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 01:07:54 -0600 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <24D0D3D6-B856-407D-827D-AB4AC6D5A0E4@lsol.net> I love the look of an old curved spoke flywheel. Very nice! Nels Johnsrud Manitowoc WI gop4evr at lsol.net On Jan 11, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Russell wrote: > Some time back early in 2011 I posted a request for anyone with info to contact me in my hunt for a pre 1900 engine. ?? remember ........ lol. Yes you guest it the response was overwhelming. > > Well thats not quite true I had emailed a couple of chaps of list with some possibilities of people to ring. I did make a few calls. Quite a learning experience when one asks about the real early stuff. > Well after much contemplation and the moving out of some other hard ware I have found some space to include this engine to my collection. > > http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/582151034yacoJF > > My engine is an Atlas Oil engine made by E Humphries & Co Ld Engineers Pershore, number 153. It is currently the only known example. I is going to need some work for sure but I great project none the less. Picture supplied by Patrick Knight of engine 158 show the missing parts from my engine. How ever everyone who I have spoken to are at a loss to how the engine fires; it's correct ignition and pre heating set up. Documents read the engine is preheated to a point where the engine would run of the hot built heat. It has all the hormarks of a fuel system the same as a Hornsby Akroyd. Yet this engine has an ignitor (which I feel is not correct) that may possibly supposed to be there? Any ideas and thoughts are welcome. I am thinking perhaps some kind of hot tube assembly where it could be heated prior to starting. But the pic of engine 158 does not conclude this either. Maybe the front plate on mine may be non original? > > regards Russ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Thu Jan 12 06:09:43 2012 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:09:43 -0500 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <03ECBD5B-8BBD-476E-ACAE-430C7E8D1F87@me.com> BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!! Dave On Jan 11, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Russell wrote: > Some time back early in 2011 I posted a request for anyone with info to contact me in my hunt for a pre 1900 engine. ?? remember ........ lol. Yes you guest it the response was overwhelming. > > Well thats not quite true I had emailed a couple of chaps of list with some possibilities of people to ring. I did make a few calls. Quite a learning experience when one asks about the real early stuff. > Well after much contemplation and the moving out of some other hard ware I have found some space to include this engine to my collection. > > http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/582151034yacoJF > > My engine is an Atlas Oil engine made by E Humphries & Co Ld Engineers Pershore, number 153. It is currently the only known example. I is going to need some work for sure but I great project none the less. Picture supplied by Patrick Knight of engine 158 show the missing parts from my engine. How ever everyone who I have spoken to are at a loss to how the engine fires; it's correct ignition and pre heating set up. Documents read the engine is preheated to a point where the engine would run of the hot built heat. It has all the hormarks of a fuel system the same as a Hornsby Akroyd. Yet this engine has an ignitor (which I feel is not correct) that may possibly supposed to be there? Any ideas and thoughts are welcome. I am thinking perhaps some kind of hot tube assembly where it could be heated prior to starting. But the pic of engine 158 does not conclude this either. Maybe the front plate on mine may be non original? > > regards Russ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Jan 12 07:31:41 2012 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 07:31:41 -0800 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <3F60C32E-83AE-410D-810A-E7FD6973FC5A@rustyiron.com> On Jan 11, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Russell wrote: > Some time back early in 2011 I posted a request for anyone with info to contact me in my hunt for a pre 1900 engine. ?? remember ........ lol. Yes you guest it the response was overwhelming. > > Well thats not quite true I had emailed a couple of chaps of list with some possibilities of people to ring. I did make a few calls. Quite a learning experience when one asks about the real early stuff. > Well after much contemplation and the moving out of some other hard ware I have found some space to include this engine to my collection. > > http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/582151034yacoJF > > My engine is an Atlas Oil engine made by E Humphries & Co Ld Engineers Pershore, number 153. It is currently the only known example. I is going to need some work for sure but I great project none the less. Picture supplied by Patrick Knight of engine 158 show the missing parts from my engine. How ever everyone who I have spoken to are at a loss to how the engine fires; it's correct ignition and pre heating set up. Documents read the engine is preheated to a point where the engine would run of the hot built heat. It has all the hormarks of a fuel system the same as a Hornsby Akroyd. Yet this engine has an ignitor (which I feel is not correct) that may possibly supposed to be there? Any ideas and thoughts are welcome. I am thinking perhaps some kind of hot tube assembly where it could be heated prior to starting. But the pic of engine 158 does not conclude this either. Maybe the front plate on mine may be non original? > > regards Russ Beautiful, Russ. She looks a bit Hornsbyesque, but I don?t understand the ignition, either. I?ll have to get out the books later. Adios, mate. From oldengin1 at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 09:13:01 2012 From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 12:13:01 -0500 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <03ECBD5B-8BBD-476E-ACAE-430C7E8D1F87@me.com> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> <03ECBD5B-8BBD-476E-ACAE-430C7E8D1F87@me.com> Message-ID: 2 rockers on her but only one flywheel. Super nice... On Jan 12, 2012 9:19 AM, "Dave Rotigel" wrote: BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!! Dave On Jan 11, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Russell wrote: > Some time back early in 2011 I posted a request for ... From steve_royster at hotmail.com Thu Jan 12 12:16:46 2012 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:16:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com>, <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Great find Russ, Keep us updated with progress pics! Steve > From: russell at ncable.com.au > Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 12:26:31 +1100 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine > > Some time back early in 2011 I posted a request for anyone with info to contact me in my hunt for a pre 1900 engine. ?? remember ........ lol. Yes you guest it the response was overwhelming. > > Well thats not quite true I had emailed a couple of chaps of list with some possibilities of people to ring. I did make a few calls. Quite a learning experience when one asks about the real early stuff. > Well after much contemplation and the moving out of some other hard ware I have found some space to include this engine to my collection. > > http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/582151034yacoJF > > My engine is an Atlas Oil engine made by E Humphries & Co Ld Engineers Pershore, number 153. It is currently the only known example. I is going to need some work for sure but I great project none the less. Picture supplied by Patrick Knight of engine 158 show the missing parts from my engine. How ever everyone who I have spoken to are at a loss to how the engine fires; it's correct ignition and pre heating set up. Documents read the engine is preheated to a point where the engine would run of the hot built heat. It has all the hormarks of a fuel system the same as a Hornsby Akroyd. Yet this engine has an ignitor (which I feel is not correct) that may possibly supposed to be there? Any ideas and thoughts are welcome. I am thinking perhaps some kind of hot tube assembly where it could be heated prior to starting. But the pic of engine 158 does not conclude this either. Maybe the front plate on mine may be non original? > > regards Russ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Thu Jan 12 15:18:12 2012 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 10:18:12 +1100 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com>, <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <1BB5A8DC-3B6E-450A-BA65-A19F6AA4388E@ncable.com.au> Thanks guys, It will be a slow process with this one. Plenty of research and a few patterns made etc. Should be fun though. Russ PS: to the other bad oyster, my e-mails still wont get to you? On 13/01/2012, at 7:16 AM, Steve Royster wrote: > > Great find Russ, Keep us updated with progress pics! Steve > > From russell at ncable.com.au Thu Jan 12 16:12:26 2012 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:12:26 +1100 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <1BB5A8DC-3B6E-450A-BA65-A19F6AA4388E@ncable.com.au> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com>, <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> <1BB5A8DC-3B6E-450A-BA65-A19F6AA4388E@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <9E7D1C1D-58A3-4F10-A6C2-0B0A07B58125@ncable.com.au> I have added a few pictures of the ignitor; maybe some one could identify it ? Would be interesting and would help eliminate it from the ignition system? Russ On 13/01/2012, at 10:18 AM, Russell wrote: > Thanks guys, It will be a slow process with this one. Plenty of research and a few patterns made etc. Should be fun though. > Russ > > PS: to the other bad oyster, my e-mails still wont get to you? > > > On 13/01/2012, at 7:16 AM, Steve Royster wrote: > >> >> Great find Russ, Keep us updated with progress pics! Steve >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 16:19:19 2012 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:19:19 +1100 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Great looking engine Russel. Will we see it at the Mudgee National in 2013? Patrick On 12/1/12 12:26 PM, "Russell" wrote: > Some time back early in 2011 I posted a request for anyone with info to > contact me in my hunt for a pre 1900 engine. ?? remember ........ lol. Yes you > guest it the response was overwhelming. > > Well thats not quite true I had emailed a couple of chaps of list with some > possibilities of people to ring. I did make a few calls. Quite a learning > experience when one asks about the real early stuff. > Well after much contemplation and the moving out of some other hard ware I > have found some space to include this engine to my collection. > > http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/582151034yacoJF > > My engine is an Atlas Oil engine made by E Humphries & Co Ld Engineers > Pershore, number 153. It is currently the only known example. I is going to > need some work for sure but I great project none the less. Picture supplied by > Patrick Knight of engine 158 show the missing parts from my engine. How ever > everyone who I have spoken to are at a loss to how the engine fires; it's > correct ignition and pre heating set up. Documents read the engine is > preheated to a point where the engine would run of the hot built heat. It has > all the hormarks of a fuel system the same as a Hornsby Akroyd. Yet this > engine has an ignitor (which I feel is not correct) that may possibly supposed > to be there? Any ideas and thoughts are welcome. I am thinking perhaps some > kind of hot tube assembly where it could be heated prior to starting. But the > pic of engine 158 does not conclude this either. Maybe the front plate on mine > may be non original? > > regards Russ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu Jan 12 16:44:36 2012 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:44:36 +1100 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <9E7D1C1D-58A3-4F10-A6C2-0B0A07B58125@ncable.com.au> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com>, <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au><1BB5A8DC-3B6E-450A-BA65-A19F6AA4388E@ncable.com.au> <9E7D1C1D-58A3-4F10-A6C2-0B0A07B58125@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Well done mate, In stead of an igniter you should be able to rig up a portable gas burner and one of your dads holders to heat her up, seen it done somewhere before, Heh, Heh, Heh ( a big evil laugh) Kerry >I have added a few pictures of the ignitor; maybe some one could identify >it ? Would be interesting and would help eliminate it from the ignition >system? Russ > From christison at coastalnet.com Thu Jan 12 18:39:24 2012 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 21:39:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <9E7D1C1D-58A3-4F10-A6C2-0B0A07B58125@ncable.com.au> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com>, <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> <1BB5A8DC-3B6E-450A-BA65-A19F6AA4388E@ncable.com.au> <9E7D1C1D-58A3-4F10-A6C2-0B0A07B58125@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <4F0F995C.7030409@coastalnet.com> Russell, Here are some links to pages in google books that mention the Atlas. http://books.google.com/books?id=mepQAAAAYAAJ&dq=atlas%20oil%20engine&pg=PA797#v=onepage&q&f=false http://books.google.com/books?id=t0rOAAAAMAAJ&dq=atlas%20oil%20engine&pg=PA168#v=onepage&q=atlas%20oil%20engine&f=false http://books.google.com/books?id=30xDAAAAIAAJ&dq=atlas%20oil%20engine%20humphries&pg=PA357#v=onepage&q=atlas%20oil%20engine%20humphries&f=false http://books.google.com/books?id=UdBFAAAAYAAJ&dq=atlas%20oil%20engine%20humphries&pg=PA457#v=onepage&q=atlas%20oil%20engine%20humphries&f=false Ken On 1/12/2012 7:12 PM, Russell wrote: > I have added a few pictures of the ignitor; maybe some one could identify it ? Would be interesting and would help eliminate it from the ignition system? Russ > > > On 13/01/2012, at 10:18 AM, Russell wrote: > >> Thanks guys, It will be a slow process with this one. Plenty of research and a few patterns made etc. Should be fun though. >> Russ >> >> PS: to the other bad oyster, my e-mails still wont get to you? >> >> >> On 13/01/2012, at 7:16 AM, Steve Royster wrote: >> >>> Great find Russ, Keep us updated with progress pics! Steve >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Jan 13 11:10:25 2012 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:10:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] February / March GEM - Portland Show Report Message-ID: <6721c624bf61daca7348e0b99e506b94.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> Steve Webre's 12 hp Reid and Larry Anger's 4-5 hp Lorenz are looking good in the article! From Germoamer at aol.com Fri Jan 13 11:41:26 2012 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:41:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] February / March GEM - Portland Show Report Message-ID: <174d1.1a91b67e.3c41e2e6@aol.com> In a message dated 1/13/2012 2:20:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, fero_ah at city-net.com writes: Steve Webre's 12 hp Reid and Larry Anger's 4-5 hp Lorenz are looking good in the article! Arnie, Speaking of that issue of GEM, that is a neat propane ( I assume) convers ion on the 6 hp M on the front page! A nicely restored engine too. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at aol.com From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Jan 14 17:00:58 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:00:58 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art Message-ID: <20120115010058.9B2FC98AB@smtp.wcoil.com> Hi All, Been meaning to share this for a while. Sorry the picture quality is not better, took them with my cell phone. This is my idea of Modern Art. Or American Folk Art. This is my father inlaw's tool box that he built back in the 60s and used all his working career. It was decorated at a whim with stickers and emblems that he come across that he liked. To me this is something that belongs in a museum. Or kept cherished by the family. I never asked him if he went by a set of plans. Call me stupid but I would not trade it for the biggest best Snap-On they sell. Mark S. Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Jan 14 19:01:17 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:01:17 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: <20120115010058.9B2FC98AB@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20120115010058.9B2FC98AB@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <20120115030118.D953E9887@smtp.wcoil.com> Not sure where the pic went will try again. Mark At 08:00 PM 1/14/2012, you wrote: >Hi All, Been meaning to share this for a while. Sorry the picture >quality is not better, took them with my cell phone. >This is my idea of Modern Art. Or American Folk Art. This is my >father inlaw's tool box that he built back in the 60s and used all >his working career. It was decorated at a whim with stickers and >emblems that he come across that he liked. To me this is something >that belongs in a museum. Or kept cherished by the family. I never >asked him if he went by a set of plans. Call me stupid but I would >not trade it for the biggest best Snap-On they sell. > >Mark S. > > > > >Mark Shulaw >454 County Road 33 >Bluffton, OH. 45817 >USA > >Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home > >VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Jan 14 19:05:48 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:05:48 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: Tool Box My Type Of American Folk Art Message-ID: <20120115030548.7FE75989E@smtp.wcoil.com> Shortcut to: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\qualcomm\eudora\attach\0619111755a1.jpg Shortcut to: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\qualcomm\eudora\attach\0619111755.jpg Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Jan 14 19:17:53 2012 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:17:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: <20120115030118.D953E9887@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Mark, if you're trying to attach a photo SEL won't accept attachments. You'd have to post the photo on a site somewhere and send the link. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark Shulaw Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:01 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art Not sure where the pic went will try again. Mark At 08:00 PM 1/14/2012, you wrote: >Hi All, Been meaning to share this for a while. Sorry the picture >quality is not better, took them with my cell phone. >This is my idea of Modern Art. Or American Folk Art. This is my >father inlaw's tool box that he built back in the 60s and used all >his working career. It was decorated at a whim with stickers and >emblems that he come across that he liked. To me this is something >that belongs in a museum. Or kept cherished by the family. I never >asked him if he went by a set of plans. Call me stupid but I would >not trade it for the biggest best Snap-On they sell. > >Mark S. > > > > >Mark Shulaw >454 County Road 33 >Bluffton, OH. 45817 >USA > >Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home > >VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.454 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4137 - Release Date: 01/11/12 19:34:00 From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Jan 14 19:37:03 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:37:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art Message-ID: <20120115033703.2BB0E98A2@smtp.wcoil.com> Ok lets try this again, Mark S. Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Jan 14 19:39:39 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:39:39 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: References: <20120115030118.D953E9887@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <20120115033939.988C098A5@smtp.wcoil.com> Just did that thanks. Marek At 10:17 PM 1/14/2012, you wrote: >Mark, if you're trying to attach a photo SEL won't accept attachments. >You'd have to post the photo on a site somewhere and send the link. > >Tommy Turner >Magnolia, KY > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark >Shulaw >Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:01 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art > > >Not sure where the pic went will try again. Mark > > >At 08:00 PM 1/14/2012, you wrote: > > >Hi All, Been meaning to share this for a while. Sorry the picture > >quality is not better, took them with my cell phone. > >This is my idea of Modern Art. Or American Folk Art. This is my > >father inlaw's tool box that he built back in the 60s and used all > >his working career. It was decorated at a whim with stickers and > >emblems that he come across that he liked. To me this is something > >that belongs in a museum. Or kept cherished by the family. I never > >asked him if he went by a set of plans. Call me stupid but I would > >not trade it for the biggest best Snap-On they sell. > > > >Mark S. > > > > > > > > > >Mark Shulaw > >454 County Road 33 > >Bluffton, OH. 45817 > >USA > > > >Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home > > > >VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >Mark Shulaw >454 County Road 33 >Bluffton, OH. 45817 >USA > >Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home >Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere >and Hercules Engines. >Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. >VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.454 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4137 - Release Date: 01/11/12 >19:34:00 > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Jan 14 19:42:53 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:42:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art Message-ID: <20120115034253.5170898A5@smtp.wcoil.com> I will get this right or else. Ok lets try this again, Mark S. Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Jan 14 20:28:36 2012 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 23:28:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: <20120115033703.2BB0E98A2@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Very neat tool box Mark. It certainly has a lot of character and you can tell the person who owned it was a bit of a character as well. I agree, its better than a Snap On box any day! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark Shulaw Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:37 PM To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org Cc: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art Ok lets try this again, Mark S. Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.454 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4137 - Release Date: 01/11/12 19:34:00 From Germoamer at aol.com Sun Jan 15 06:22:25 2012 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 09:22:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art Message-ID: In a message dated 1/14/2012 8:09:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, frappi at wcoil.com writes: Call me stupid but I would not trade it for the biggest best Snap-On they sell. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------ Not stupid! Beautiful family treasure! Just hope the next care taker has as much love for it as you do! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at aol.com From Germoamer at aol.com Sun Jan 15 06:35:53 2012 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 09:35:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art Message-ID: In a message dated 1/14/2012 8:09:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, frappi at wcoil.com writes: This is my idea of Modern Art. Or American Folk Art. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- Mark, Who else but us junk collectors treasure our "stuff"? Photo of a sign hanging in my room that was removed from an old water mill that was in a very dilapidated condition. _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/Booker%20mill.jpg _ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/Booker%20mill.jpg) Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at aol.com From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jan 15 06:57:58 2012 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 09:57:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <314053beb0ad462cf7f264a7887fb054.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> Mark, I totally agree with Tom. Family history items like this are priceless! It's good to know that it's in good hands. See ya, Arnie On Sun, January 15, 2012 9:22 am, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/14/2012 8:09:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > frappi at wcoil.com writes: > > Call me stupid but I would > not trade it for the biggest best Snap-On they sell. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Not stupid! Beautiful family treasure! Just hope the next care taker > has as much love for it as you do! > Tom Schmutz From frappi at wcoil.com Sun Jan 15 07:44:15 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:44:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: References: <20120115033703.2BB0E98A2@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <20120115154416.0B9AC9949@smtp.wcoil.com> Oh Bill was Quite the character. He had his own Sohio Station in the 70s then went to work for the City of Akron in Road Vehicle Maintenance and worked up to Foreman of the Department. Then in the early 2000s transferred to Police and Emergency Vehicles Maintenance Serving as foreman there till retirement. Reason he retired was a good story too. Not to be told here. His work history is rather mundane. He and his cousin bought an airplane and repaired it to fly. Mind you neither one was a pilot. The closest either one was to pilot was Bill. He was Crew Chief of a Huey Gun Ship. LOL. And that was not till well after this happened! Anyways he and his cousin got the plane operational and fueled it and yep took her up. Neither one of them had the nerve to land it so they flew into PA. Kept going till the fuel run out crash landed in a pasture abandoned the plane and hitch hiked back to Ohio. Never went back for it. That was in the early 60s. And the stories continued for many years. Mark At 11:28 PM 1/14/2012, you wrote: >Very neat tool box Mark. It certainly has a lot of character and you >can tell the person who owned it was a bit of a character as well. I >agree, its better than a Snap On box any day! > >Tommy Turner >Magnolia, KY > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark >Shulaw >Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:37 PM >To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org >Cc: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art > > > >Ok lets try this again, Mark S. > > > > > > > > > >Mark Shulaw >454 County Road 33 >Bluffton, OH. 45817 >USA > >Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home > >VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.454 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4137 - Release Date: 01/11/12 >19:34:00 > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Sun Jan 15 07:45:44 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:45:44 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120115154544.94A8D960A@smtp.wcoil.com> Hand Painted signs on wood. Thats a great Sign!! Mark At 09:35 AM 1/15/2012, you wrote: > >In a message dated 1/14/2012 8:09:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >frappi at wcoil.com writes: > >This is my idea of Modern Art. Or American Folk Art. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >----------------------------------------------- > >Mark, > >Who else but us junk collectors treasure our "stuff"? > >Photo of a sign hanging in my room that was removed from an old water mill >that was in a very dilapidated condition. > > > > >_http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/Booker%20mill.jpg > >_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/Booker%20mill.jpg) > > > > >Tom Schmutz >Concord, Va. >germoamer at aol.com >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Sun Jan 15 07:47:49 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:47:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: <314053beb0ad462cf7f264a7887fb054.squirrel@mail.realprodata .com> References: <314053beb0ad462cf7f264a7887fb054.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: <20120115154757.8FB739949@smtp.wcoil.com> Family history not withstanding this is a forum where something like this is appreciated no matter who made it. Mark At 09:57 AM 1/15/2012, you wrote: >Mark, > >I totally agree with Tom. Family history items like this are priceless! >It's good to know that it's in good hands. > >See ya, Arnie > >On Sun, January 15, 2012 9:22 am, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/14/2012 8:09:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > frappi at wcoil.com writes: > > > > Call me stupid but I would > > not trade it for the biggest best Snap-On they sell. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Not stupid! Beautiful family treasure! Just hope the next care taker > > has as much love for it as you do! > > Tom Schmutz > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From dtallman at accnorwalk.com Sun Jan 15 08:13:46 2012 From: dtallman at accnorwalk.com (Doug Tallman) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 11:13:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F12FB3A.4010500@accnorwalk.com> I'd say the guy that has it now is a bit of a character himself!! :-) Doug T Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Very neat tool box Mark. It certainly has a lot of character and you > can tell the person who owned it was a bit of a character as well. I > agree, its better than a Snap On box any day! > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > From frappi at wcoil.com Sun Jan 15 08:42:11 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 11:42:11 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: <4F12FB3A.4010500@accnorwalk.com> References: <4F12FB3A.4010500@accnorwalk.com> Message-ID: <20120115164211.081A498BB@smtp.wcoil.com> No not mine. :-( I wish. Its still setting in Bills Garage. Probably will go to his boy which is where it belongs as long as he appreciates it. And he seems to appreciate it. Mark At 11:13 AM 1/15/2012, you wrote: >I'd say the guy that has it now is a bit of a character himself!! :-) Doug T > > > >Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > > Very neat tool box Mark. It certainly has a lot of character and you > > can tell the person who owned it was a bit of a character as well. I > > agree, its better than a Snap On box any day! > > > > Tommy Turner > > Magnolia, KY > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jan 15 08:51:06 2012 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 11:51:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <374DCD6D209248B68C26DD0D069897C1@RoysterPC> I LIKE! -----Original Message----- From: Germoamer at aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:35 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In a message dated 1/14/2012 8:09:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, frappi at wcoil.com writes: This is my idea of Modern Art. Or American Folk Art. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- Mark, Who else but us junk collectors treasure our "stuff"? Photo of a sign hanging in my room that was removed from an old water mill that was in a very dilapidated condition. _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/Booker%20mill.jpg _ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/Booker%20mill.jpg) Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at aol.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Sun Jan 15 18:19:01 2012 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:19:01 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran In-Reply-To: <374DCD6D209248B68C26DD0D069897C1@RoysterPC> References: , <374DCD6D209248B68C26DD0D069897C1@RoysterPC> Message-ID: Check out my 6 HP Brown & Cochran now that I've stripped down to original paint and done some polishing and some tuning Tom Winland Ohio http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Brown.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7eUi5roND4 From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Jan 15 18:42:25 2012 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:42:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey Tom, it sure looks better than it did painted red! Nice hunk of iron that I need to trade you out of. Tommy Turner -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tom Winland Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:19 PM To: SEL list Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran Check out my 6 HP Brown & Cochran now that I've stripped down to original paint and done some polishing and some tuning Tom Winland Ohio http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Brown.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7eUi5roND4 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jan 15 18:46:46 2012 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:46:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran In-Reply-To: References: , <374DCD6D209248B68C26DD0D069897C1@RoysterPC> Message-ID: <980232E78A5F4AD99CA7817722BB730E@RoysterPC> Tom: I have coveted many things in my life, and now added another to the list! Drop dead gorgeous! Love that engine! Mike -----Original Message----- From: Tom Winland Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:19 PM To: SEL list Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran Check out my 6 HP Brown & Cochran now that I've stripped down to original paint and done some polishing and some tuning Tom Winland Ohio http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Brown.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7eUi5roND4 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From curt at rustyiron.com Sun Jan 15 18:49:08 2012 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:49:08 -0800 Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran In-Reply-To: References: , <374DCD6D209248B68C26DD0D069897C1@RoysterPC> Message-ID: Tom, That's a GORGEOUS engine! Very very nice. Ohio really cranked out some beautiful engines! Curt H Bessemer City, NC > > > Check out my 6 HP Brown & Cochran now that I've stripped down to original > paint and done some polishing and some tuning > > Tom Winland > Ohio > > http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Brown.html > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7eUi5roND4 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Sun Jan 15 18:52:02 2012 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:52:02 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: What ya got that would make me let go of the Brown, I really like it alot. > From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:42:25 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran > > Hey Tom, it sure looks better than it did painted red! Nice hunk of iron > that I need to trade you out of. > > Tommy Turner > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tom Winland > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:19 PM > To: SEL list > Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran > > > > Check out my 6 HP Brown & Cochran now that I've stripped down to original > paint and done some polishing and some tuning > > Tom Winland > Ohio > > http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Brown.html > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7eUi5roND4 > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From tchristoff at earthlink.net Sun Jan 15 19:04:24 2012 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:04:24 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran Message-ID: <30337257.1326683064853.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net> That is super nice Tom. Be careful though, now that a Royster has seen the pictures and said "love that engine" he's going to try to aquire it in ways that are just not right. Tim Christoff PS. I was held hostage between both the Royster boys in the front of a truck being worked over for an hour. I managed to hold them off but it wasn't easy. -----Original Message----- >From: Mike Royster >Sent: Jan 15, 2012 8:46 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran > >Tom: > > I have coveted many things in my life, and now added another to the list! >Drop dead gorgeous! Love that engine! > >Mike > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tom Winland >Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:19 PM >To: SEL list >Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran > > > >Check out my 6 HP Brown & Cochran now that I've stripped down to original >paint and done some polishing and some tuning > >Tom Winland >Ohio > >http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Brown.html > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7eUi5roND4 >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Jan 15 19:18:33 2012 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:18:33 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <82971310A8E74C5D9F3216FE548DAAB7@D2JYVHJ1> What ya got that would make me let go of the Brown, I really like it alot. Hey Tom, I know what that means.....big $$$$. I remember Paul Cox having a person ask about an engine he had. Paul said "oh, I really like that engine and its not for sale.......and if it was it would be high". The guy left Paul's place about 2 hours later with it in the back of his truck and his billfold a lot smaller. Oh, you never know Tom, there may be something I have that you and I can do some swappin' on. Tommy Turner From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Jan 15 19:20:45 2012 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:20:45 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran In-Reply-To: <30337257.1326683064853.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: You got that right Tim. Every time they've rolled into my place they've left with a nice hunk of iron in the back of their truck. I think last time I gave it to them to get it out of my way. They can be very persuasive! Tommy Turner -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tim Christoff Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:04 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran That is super nice Tom. Be careful though, now that a Royster has seen the pictures and said "love that engine" he's going to try to aquire it in ways that are just not right. Tim Christoff PS. I was held hostage between both the Royster boys in the front of a truck being worked over for an hour. I managed to hold them off but it wasn't easy. From curt at rustyiron.com Sun Jan 15 19:37:36 2012 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:37:36 -0800 Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran In-Reply-To: <30337257.1326683064853.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <30337257.1326683064853.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <7076b2a68dd26d70f8f48dda165241a1.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> Tim, You got that right! Whenever I put new padlocks on my engine shed, I always ask the locksmith if they are "Roysterproof". Enginefolk in these parts have gotten word of these shenanigans and everyone has big ol padlocks on their engine sheds now. Lately the Roysters have resorted to a new scheme. Since most of the nice engines are already in Royster possession anyway, they've resorted to "midnight acquisitions" of each other's stuff. Mike will load up Steve's stuff when Steve is off closing a deal on another McMansion, and when Mike is out of town doing a remediation job, Steve goes to Mike's and loads up his stuff and helps himself to some of Mike's too. It's really blurred the line knowing which is the good or bad Royster now. Curt H Bessemer City, NC > That is super nice Tom. Be careful though, now that a Royster has seen > the pictures and said "love that engine" he's going to try to aquire it in > ways that are just not right. > > Tim Christoff > > PS. I was held hostage between both the Royster boys in the front of a > truck being worked over for an hour. I managed to hold them off but it > wasn't easy. > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Mike Royster >>Sent: Jan 15, 2012 8:46 PM >>To: The SEL email discussion list >>Subject: Re: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran >> >>Tom: >> >> I have coveted many things in my life, and now added another to the >> list! >>Drop dead gorgeous! Love that engine! >> >>Mike >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Tom Winland >>Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:19 PM >>To: SEL list >>Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran >> >> >> >>Check out my 6 HP Brown & Cochran now that I've stripped down to original >>paint and done some polishing and some tuning >> >>Tom Winland >>Ohio >> >>http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Brown.html >> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7eUi5roND4 >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Tim Christoff > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jan 15 19:43:09 2012 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:43:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran In-Reply-To: <30337257.1326683064853.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <30337257.1326683064853.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Now Tim, you know we were just helping you change that tire on your truck, and you were so grateful you sold us that New Way twin for a bargain. You are the appreciative type! MR -----Original Message----- From: Tim Christoff Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:04 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran That is super nice Tom. Be careful though, now that a Royster has seen the pictures and said "love that engine" he's going to try to aquire it in ways that are just not right. Tim Christoff PS. I was held hostage between both the Royster boys in the front of a truck being worked over for an hour. I managed to hold them off but it wasn't easy. -----Original Message----- >From: Mike Royster >Sent: Jan 15, 2012 8:46 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran > >Tom: > > I have coveted many things in my life, and now added another to the list! >Drop dead gorgeous! Love that engine! > >Mike > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tom Winland >Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:19 PM >To: SEL list >Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran > > > >Check out my 6 HP Brown & Cochran now that I've stripped down to original >paint and done some polishing and some tuning > >Tom Winland >Ohio > >http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Brown.html > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7eUi5roND4 >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jan 15 19:44:29 2012 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:44:29 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6FE295532B204274BDE1AD50E9BB1E57@RoysterPC> Careful Tommy, you know how light headed you get when you drink those Diet Pepsis my brother makes, er gives to you! MR -----Original Message----- From: Judge Tommy Turner Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:20 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: Re: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran You got that right Tim. Every time they've rolled into my place they've left with a nice hunk of iron in the back of their truck. I think last time I gave it to them to get it out of my way. They can be very persuasive! Tommy Turner -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tim Christoff Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:04 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran That is super nice Tom. Be careful though, now that a Royster has seen the pictures and said "love that engine" he's going to try to aquire it in ways that are just not right. Tim Christoff PS. I was held hostage between both the Royster boys in the front of a truck being worked over for an hour. I managed to hold them off but it wasn't easy. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Mon Jan 16 03:16:20 2012 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 22:16:20 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Stolen Australian Vinco marine engine In-Reply-To: <7076b2a68dd26d70f8f48dda165241a1.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> References: <30337257.1326683064853.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <7076b2a68dd26d70f8f48dda165241a1.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> Message-ID: <11C54FE5298B4FAF8D3FAD87D7BA4173@KerryPC> In 2006 a Vinco was stolen from an exhibitor at the Canberra Rally (not at the rally itself) see http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Vinco.html Does any one remember the owner who had a few marine engines and a boat on display as I seem to have lost the details and may have some info on the engine. Please send any name to me direct not the list Thanks for any help Kerry Lithgow NSW Oz From Germoamer at aol.com Tue Jan 17 16:19:47 2012 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:19:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] International M help Message-ID: <94ae5.237ac0e.3c476a23@aol.com> I think I must be headed to the old folks home. Mind does not remember stuff like it used to. Friend called and needed help with a 1 1/2 hp M and I cannot remember how everything worked. I have two 6 hp's and do not feel like tearing one apart to get his answer. All the books I have do not help me. Here is the question. The fuel pump has a check ball on the discharge side to carb.This is located in the "Y" part of the pump. Where is the check ball on the incoming side of the pump? Is it down in the fuel tank. Its got to have one somewhere or else the fuel would be pushed back to the tank rather than carb. Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at aol.com From frappi at wcoil.com Tue Jan 17 16:51:03 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:51:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] International M help In-Reply-To: <94ae5.237ac0e.3c476a23@aol.com> References: <94ae5.237ac0e.3c476a23@aol.com> Message-ID: <20120118005101.E46839926@smtp.wcoil.com> The ones I worked on have two check valves at the pump. Both valves were at the inlet and outlet of the pump. Both were the early style cast iron fuel pump. The check valve assembly threaded into the pump. Mark At 07:19 PM 1/17/2012, you wrote: >I think I must be headed to the old folks home. Mind does not remember >stuff like it used to. Friend called and needed help with a 1 >1/2 hp M and I >cannot remember how everything worked. I have two 6 hp's and do not feel >like tearing one apart to get his answer. All the books I have do not help >me. Here is the question. > >The fuel pump has a check ball on the discharge side to carb.This is >located in the "Y" part of the pump. Where is the check ball on >the incoming >side of the pump? Is it down in the fuel tank. Its got to have one >somewhere or else the fuel would be pushed back to the tank rather than carb. > >Thanks, > >Tom Schmutz >Concord, Va. >germoamer at aol.com >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From rotigel at me.com Fri Jan 20 17:03:08 2012 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:03:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] From The Seat Of A Tractor Message-ID: > Life from the seat of a tractor. An old Farmer's Words of Wisdom we could all live by....... > > > > ?Your fences need to be horse-high, pig-tight and bull-strong.? > > > ?Keep skunks and bankers at a distance.? > > > ?Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.? > > > ?A bumble bee is considerably faster than a John Deere tractor.? > > > ?Words that soak into your ears are whispered?....not yelled.? > > > ?Meanness don't just happen overnight.? > > > ?Forgive your enemies; it messes up their heads.? > > > ?Do not corner something that you know is meaner than you.? > > > ?It don't take a very big person to carry a grudge.? > > > ?You cannot unsay a cruel word.? > > > ?Every path has a few puddles.? > > > ?When you wallow with pigs, expect to get dirty.? > > > ?The best sermons are lived, not preached.? > > > ?Most of the stuff people worry about, ain't never gonna happen anyway.? > > > ?Don't judge folks by their relatives. > > > ?Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer.? > > > ?Live a good and honorable life, then when you get older and think back, you'll enjoy it a second time.? > > > ?Don't interfere with somethin' that ain't bothering you none.? > > > ?Timin' has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.? > > > ?If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop diggin'.? > > > ?Sometimes you get, and sometimes you get got. > > > ?The biggest troublemaker you'll probably ever have to deal with, watches you from the mirror every mornin'.? > > > ?Always drink upstream from the herd.? > > > ?Good judgment comes from experience, and a lotta that comes from bad judgment.? > > > ?Lettin' the cat outta the bag is a whole lot easier than puttin' it back in.? > > > ?If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' somebody else's dog around.? > > > ?Live simply, love generously, care deeply, > Speak kindly, and leave the rest to God.? > ?Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.? > > > > From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Jan 20 20:16:10 2012 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:16:10 +1100 Subject: [SEL] From The Seat Of A Tractor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1EFFD207-9B9C-4C13-A891-8055C7EFFD45@ncable.com.au> Dave what are you going on the seat of a tractor! On 21/01/2012, at 12:03 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote: >> Life from the seat of a tractor. An old Farmer's Words of Wisdom we could all live by....... >> >> >> >> ?Your fences need to be horse-high, pig-tight and bull-strong.? >> >> >> ?Keep skunks and bankers at a distance.? >> >> >> ?Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.? >> >> >> ?A bumble bee is considerably faster than a John Deere tractor.? >> >> >> ?Words that soak into your ears are whispered?....not yelled.? >> >> >> ?Meanness don't just happen overnight.? >> >> >> ?Forgive your enemies; it messes up their heads.? >> >> >> ?Do not corner something that you know is meaner than you.? >> >> >> ?It don't take a very big person to carry a grudge.? >> >> >> ?You cannot unsay a cruel word.? >> >> >> ?Every path has a few puddles.? >> >> >> ?When you wallow with pigs, expect to get dirty.? >> >> >> ?The best sermons are lived, not preached.? >> >> >> ?Most of the stuff people worry about, ain't never gonna happen anyway.? >> >> >> ?Don't judge folks by their relatives. >> >> >> ?Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer.? >> >> >> ?Live a good and honorable life, then when you get older and think back, you'll enjoy it a second time.? >> >> >> ?Don't interfere with somethin' that ain't bothering you none.? >> >> >> ?Timin' has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.? >> >> >> ?If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop diggin'.? >> >> >> ?Sometimes you get, and sometimes you get got. >> >> >> ?The biggest troublemaker you'll probably ever have to deal with, watches you from the mirror every mornin'.? >> >> >> ?Always drink upstream from the herd.? >> >> >> ?Good judgment comes from experience, and a lotta that comes from bad judgment.? >> >> >> ?Lettin' the cat outta the bag is a whole lot easier than puttin' it back in.? >> >> >> ?If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' somebody else's dog around.? >> >> >> ?Live simply, love generously, care deeply, >> Speak kindly, and leave the rest to God.? >> ?Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.? >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bboyce at swat.coop Tue Jan 24 08:59:32 2012 From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:59:32 -0600 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed Message-ID: <51B02F83E5B149C0A7B673A93FB9C850@billPC> i need to replace the plunger in fuel pump on the 22 hp stover due to wear. the plunger is of brass material and travels in a cast iron bore of the pump body,,,,,,,, in checking some catalogues i found several different kinds of brass alloy material,,,,, maybe one of you experts could suggest which type of brass would work best in this application,,,,,, ? thanks in advance for any help, bill boyce lost prairie, arkansas From wackyvorlon at gmail.com Tue Jan 24 09:31:30 2012 From: wackyvorlon at gmail.com (Paul Anderson) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 12:31:30 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed In-Reply-To: <51B02F83E5B149C0A7B673A93FB9C850@billPC> References: <51B02F83E5B149C0A7B673A93FB9C850@billPC> Message-ID: I'd probably go for a phosphor bronze. More durable under abrasion. I think the alloy is 330? Sent from my iPad On 2012-01-24, at 11:59 AM, "bill boyce" wrote: > i need to replace the plunger in fuel pump on the 22 hp stover due to wear. the plunger is of brass material and > travels in a cast iron bore of the pump body,,,,,,,, in checking some catalogues i found several different kinds of > brass alloy material,,,,, maybe one of you experts could suggest which type of brass would work best in this > application,,,,,, ? > thanks in advance for any help, > bill boyce > lost prairie, arkansas > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bakermonitor1932 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 24 11:38:02 2012 From: bakermonitor1932 at hotmail.com (Devin Holland) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 14:38:02 -0500 Subject: [SEL] re. 22hp stover fuel pump In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you a pice of brass that is the right size to make one thats what you should use as its not going to see enough wear for it to matter as this engine is no longer going to be doing a full days work every day. Its also worth mentioning that the brass they used was probably not as refined as what can be found today. Devin H > Today's Topics: > > 1. 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed (bill boyce) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:59:32 -0600 > From: "bill boyce" > Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Message-ID: <51B02F83E5B149C0A7B673A93FB9C850 at billPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > i need to replace the plunger in fuel pump on the 22 hp stover due to wear. the plunger is of brass material and > travels in a cast iron bore of the pump body,,,,,,,, in checking some catalogues i found several different kinds of > brass alloy material,,,,, maybe one of you experts could suggest which type of brass would work best in this > application,,,,,, ? > thanks in advance for any help, > bill boyce > lost prairie, arkansas > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > End of SEL Digest, Vol 94, Issue 17 > *********************************** From cgandree at mchsi.com Wed Jan 25 05:00:17 2012 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 07:00:17 -0600 (CST) Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed In-Reply-To: <51B02F83E5B149C0A7B673A93FB9C850@billPC> Message-ID: <467180199.16692701327496417404.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Bill, My thoughts are that the orginal plunger was made of bronze not brass as after restoring one of my large Stovers and helping several other collectors on theirs they were all bronze. Its possible that sometime ago some one replaced the plunger with brass stock as he didn't have any bronze. Not sure if Joe Mauer is tuning in to our list anymore but since he is the custody for Stover records and has several large hp Stovers you might contact him to confirm. regards, Curt Andree ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill boyce" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:59:32 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed i need to replace the plunger in fuel pump on the 22 hp stover due to wear. the plunger is of brass material and travels in a cast iron bore of the pump body,,,,,,,, in checking some catalogues i found several different kinds of brass alloy material,,,,, maybe one of you experts could suggest which type of brass would work best in this application,,,,,, ? thanks in advance for any help, bill boyce lost prairie, arkansas _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Jan 25 14:02:19 2012 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:02:19 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Ken Meeks Email Address In-Reply-To: <374DCD6D209248B68C26DD0D069897C1@RoysterPC> References: <374DCD6D209248B68C26DD0D069897C1@RoysterPC> Message-ID: <1E91076C-BFE3-41B5-A21C-5248D6AC3C4F@scrtc.com> Does anyone have Ken Meeks email address? Thanks. Tommy Turnet From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Wed Jan 25 14:37:54 2012 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:37:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Ken Meeks Email Address Message-ID: Tommy if you look through the adds on Harry's he did have some items listed could get him that way. KK In a message dated 1/25/2012 5:06:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: Does anyone have Ken Meeks email address? Thanks. Tommy Turnet _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Jan 25 16:38:24 2012 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:38:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Ken Meeks Email Address In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Kevin. Before I posted the not on the SEL I glanced over some ads and Harry's sponsor page but didn't see his name. I'll give it a closer look. I had a friend contact me today as they had noticed our discussion about the Otto diesel engine. He said that Paul Cox got the engine from Ted Cantrell and that Paul sold it to Emory Mansker (or that's the name he thought). Just thought I would pass this on to you in case you were trying to hunt it down. TT -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 5:38 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] Ken Meeks Email Address Tommy if you look through the adds on Harry's he did have some items listed could get him that way. KK In a message dated 1/25/2012 5:06:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: Does anyone have Ken Meeks email address? Thanks. Tommy Turnet _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.454 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4164 - Release Date: 01/24/12 19:34:00 From curt at rustyiron.com Wed Jan 25 16:57:46 2012 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:57:46 -0800 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed In-Reply-To: <467180199.16692701327496417404.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: <467180199.16692701327496417404.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> Bill, Funny this should come up, as Tony Leonard and I were just discussing this earlier in the week. I'm going to echo Curt Andree's comments on bronze being the better choice. Brass is simply copper and zinc, not a very "slick" product. Bronze has the additional elements of lead and tin, making it a better material for things to slide against it. The lead and tin are slicker metals and aid in making bronze a better bearing material. The common 660 bronze material will be perfect for your application. There is a CDA number for this same material CDA 93200, maybe???, but any metal supplier will know the 660 bronze nomenclature. Curt Holland Bessemer City, NC > Bill, > My thoughts are that the orginal plunger was made of bronze not brass as > after restoring one of my large Stovers and helping several other > collectors on theirs they were all bronze. Its possible that sometime ago > some one replaced the plunger with brass stock as he didn't have any > bronze. Not sure if Joe Mauer is tuning in to our list anymore but since > he is the custody for Stover records and has several large hp Stovers you > might contact him to confirm. > regards, > Curt Andree > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bill boyce" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:59:32 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > > i need to replace the plunger in fuel pump on the 22 hp stover due to > wear. the plunger is of brass material and > travels in a cast iron bore of the pump body,,,,,,,, in checking some > catalogues i found several different kinds of > brass alloy material,,,,, maybe one of you experts could suggest which > type of brass would work best in this > application,,,,,, ? > thanks in advance for any help, > bill boyce > lost prairie, arkansas > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Wed Jan 25 17:19:39 2012 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 20:19:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Ken Meeks Email Address Message-ID: <126a1.6c294ad3.3c52042a@aol.com> Tommy thank you. I will look tonight and see what I can find on Kenny M. KK In a message dated 1/25/2012 7:46:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: Thanks Kevin. Before I posted the not on the SEL I glanced over some ads and Harry's sponsor page but didn't see his name. I'll give it a closer look. I had a friend contact me today as they had noticed our discussion about the Otto diesel engine. He said that Paul Cox got the engine from Ted Cantrell and that Paul sold it to Emory Mansker (or that's the name he thought). Just thought I would pass this on to you in case you were trying to hunt it down. TT -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 5:38 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] Ken Meeks Email Address Tommy if you look through the adds on Harry's he did have some items listed could get him that way. KK In a message dated 1/25/2012 5:06:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: Does anyone have Ken Meeks email address? Thanks. Tommy Turnet _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.454 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4164 - Release Date: 01/24/12 19:34:00 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Jan 25 17:38:28 2012 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:38:28 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Ken Meeks Email Address Message-ID: <20120125.173902.1667.40672@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> Hi Tommy. This is the address I have been using in correspondence with him. kenmeeks at rogers.com Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f20aec1793f53bcd54st06vuc From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Wed Jan 25 18:16:08 2012 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:16:08 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Ken Meeks Email Address In-Reply-To: <20120125.173902.1667.40672@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> References: <20120125.173902.1667.40672@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: And Tommy..I believe he's on facebook ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Ken Meeks Email Address > Hi Tommy. This is the address I have been using in correspondence with > him. kenmeeks at rogers.com > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > ____________________________________________________________ > 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 > The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f20aec1793f53bcd54st06vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Jan 25 19:40:04 2012 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:40:04 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Ken Meeks Email Address In-Reply-To: <20120125.173902.1667.40672@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <317B8905D0124D2DAD031058FFC2E96E@D2JYVHJ1> Thanks Ron. Tommy Turner Hi Tommy. This is the address I have been using in correspondence with him. kenmeeks at rogers.com Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell From bboyce at swat.coop Thu Jan 26 16:54:08 2012 From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:54:08 -0600 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed In-Reply-To: <6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> References: <467180199.16692701327496417404.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> <6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> Message-ID: Curt H, Curt A, and Paul,,,,, thanks for all the input on the fuel pump plunger,,,,, i decided to use a bronze-aluminum alloy, 954,,,,,,,,, it arrived today, a solid round, 1 x 13 inches, so tomorrow its sharpen the tool bits and make some chips,,,, thanks again bill boyce lost prairie, arkansas ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > > Bill, > Funny this should come up, as Tony Leonard and I were just discussing this > earlier in the week. > I'm going to echo Curt Andree's comments on bronze being the better > choice. > Brass is simply copper and zinc, not a very "slick" product. > Bronze has the additional elements of lead and tin, making it a better > material for things to slide against it. The lead and tin are slicker > metals and aid in making bronze a better bearing material. The common 660 > bronze material will be perfect for your application. There is a CDA > number for this same material CDA 93200, maybe???, but any metal supplier > will know the 660 bronze nomenclature. > Curt Holland > Bessemer City, NC > > >> Bill, >> My thoughts are that the orginal plunger was made of bronze not brass as >> after restoring one of my large Stovers and helping several other >> collectors on theirs they were all bronze. Its possible that sometime >> ago >> some one replaced the plunger with brass stock as he didn't have any >> bronze. Not sure if Joe Mauer is tuning in to our list anymore but since >> he is the custody for Stover records and has several large hp Stovers you >> might contact him to confirm. >> regards, >> Curt Andree >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "bill boyce" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:59:32 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central >> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed >> >> i need to replace the plunger in fuel pump on the 22 hp stover due to >> wear. the plunger is of brass material and >> travels in a cast iron bore of the pump body,,,,,,,, in checking some >> catalogues i found several different kinds of >> brass alloy material,,,,, maybe one of you experts could suggest which >> type of brass would work best in this >> application,,,,,, ? >> thanks in advance for any help, >> bill boyce >> lost prairie, arkansas >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From kosh at ncweb.com Thu Jan 26 23:58:25 2012 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 02:58:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed In-Reply-To: References: <6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> <467180199.16692701327496417404.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> <6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20120127025750.03f8b980@ncweb.com> Where did you order it from? Dave Merchant At 07:54 PM 1/26/2012, you wrote: >Curt H, Curt A, and Paul,,,,, thanks for all the input on the fuel pump >plunger,,,,, i decided to use >a bronze-aluminum alloy, 954,,,,,,,,, it arrived today, a solid round, 1 x >13 inches, so tomorrow >its sharpen the tool bits and make some chips,,,, thanks again >bill boyce >lost prairie, arkansas > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:57 PM >Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > > > > > > Bill, > > Funny this should come up, as Tony Leonard and I were just discussing this > > earlier in the week. > > I'm going to echo Curt Andree's comments on bronze being the better > > choice. > > Brass is simply copper and zinc, not a very "slick" product. > > Bronze has the additional elements of lead and tin, making it a better > > material for things to slide against it. The lead and tin are slicker > > metals and aid in making bronze a better bearing material. The common 660 > > bronze material will be perfect for your application. There is a CDA > > number for this same material CDA 93200, maybe???, but any metal supplier > > will know the 660 bronze nomenclature. > > Curt Holland > > Bessemer City, NC > > > > > >> Bill, > >> My thoughts are that the orginal plunger was made of bronze not brass as > >> after restoring one of my large Stovers and helping several other > >> collectors on theirs they were all bronze. Its possible that sometime > >> ago > >> some one replaced the plunger with brass stock as he didn't have any > >> bronze. Not sure if Joe Mauer is tuning in to our list anymore but since > >> he is the custody for Stover records and has several large hp Stovers you > >> might contact him to confirm. > >> regards, > >> Curt Andree > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "bill boyce" > >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:59:32 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > >> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > >> > >> i need to replace the plunger in fuel pump on the 22 hp stover due to > >> wear. the plunger is of brass material and > >> travels in a cast iron bore of the pump body,,,,,,,, in checking some > >> catalogues i found several different kinds of > >> brass alloy material,,,,, maybe one of you experts could suggest which > >> type of brass would work best in this > >> application,,,,,, ? > >> thanks in advance for any help, > >> bill boyce > >> lost prairie, arkansas > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at ncweb.com kosh at nesys.com dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From marinesurveys at msn.com Fri Jan 27 00:13:34 2012 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:13:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20120127025750.03f8b980@ncweb.com> References: <6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>, <467180199.16692701327496417404.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>, <6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>, <5.2.0.9.0.20120127025750.03f8b980@ncweb.com> Message-ID: 954 Bronze is one hard to machine bronze, me thinks that it may not be a god choice for this project. Just saying Frank Skinner Best Regards Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 02:58:25 -0500 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > From: kosh at ncweb.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > > Where did you order it from? > > Dave Merchant > > At 07:54 PM 1/26/2012, you wrote: > >Curt H, Curt A, and Paul,,,,, thanks for all the input on the fuel pump > >plunger,,,,, i decided to use > >a bronze-aluminum alloy, 954,,,,,,,,, it arrived today, a solid round, 1 x > >13 inches, so tomorrow > >its sharpen the tool bits and make some chips,,,, thanks again > >bill boyce > >lost prairie, arkansas > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: > >To: "The SEL email discussion list" > >Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:57 PM > >Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > > Funny this should come up, as Tony Leonard and I were just discussing this > > > earlier in the week. > > > I'm going to echo Curt Andree's comments on bronze being the better > > > choice. > > > Brass is simply copper and zinc, not a very "slick" product. > > > Bronze has the additional elements of lead and tin, making it a better > > > material for things to slide against it. The lead and tin are slicker > > > metals and aid in making bronze a better bearing material. The common 660 > > > bronze material will be perfect for your application. There is a CDA > > > number for this same material CDA 93200, maybe???, but any metal supplier > > > will know the 660 bronze nomenclature. > > > Curt Holland > > > Bessemer City, NC > > > > > > > > >> Bill, > > >> My thoughts are that the orginal plunger was made of bronze not brass as > > >> after restoring one of my large Stovers and helping several other > > >> collectors on theirs they were all bronze. Its possible that sometime > > >> ago > > >> some one replaced the plunger with brass stock as he didn't have any > > >> bronze. Not sure if Joe Mauer is tuning in to our list anymore but since > > >> he is the custody for Stover records and has several large hp Stovers you > > >> might contact him to confirm. > > >> regards, > > >> Curt Andree > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "bill boyce" > > >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:59:32 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > > >> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > > >> > > >> i need to replace the plunger in fuel pump on the 22 hp stover due to > > >> wear. the plunger is of brass material and > > >> travels in a cast iron bore of the pump body,,,,,,,, in checking some > > >> catalogues i found several different kinds of > > >> brass alloy material,,,,, maybe one of you experts could suggest which > > >> type of brass would work best in this > > >> application,,,,,, ? > > >> thanks in advance for any help, > > >> bill boyce > > >> lost prairie, arkansas > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> SEL mailing list > > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> SEL mailing list > > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SEL mailing list > > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Dave Merchant > kosh at ncweb.com > kosh at nesys.com > dmerchant at layerzero.com > > http://www.nesys.com > http://www.nesys.org > YouTube: SteamCrane > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bboyce at swat.coop Fri Jan 27 06:01:13 2012 From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 08:01:13 -0600 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20120127025750.03f8b980@ncweb.com> References: <6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com><467180199.16692701327496417404.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11><6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20120127025750.03f8b980@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <62DD62B9CC9F46BB8C21EA6144AEDD2C@billPC> dave, i got it from mcmaster carr bb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Merchant" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > Where did you order it from? > > Dave Merchant > > At 07:54 PM 1/26/2012, you wrote: >>Curt H, Curt A, and Paul,,,,, thanks for all the input on the fuel pump >>plunger,,,,, i decided to use >>a bronze-aluminum alloy, 954,,,,,,,,, it arrived today, a solid round, 1 x >>13 inches, so tomorrow >>its sharpen the tool bits and make some chips,,,, thanks again >>bill boyce >>lost prairie, arkansas >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:57 PM >>Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed >> >> >> > >> > Bill, >> > Funny this should come up, as Tony Leonard and I were just discussing >> > this >> > earlier in the week. >> > I'm going to echo Curt Andree's comments on bronze being the better >> > choice. >> > Brass is simply copper and zinc, not a very "slick" product. >> > Bronze has the additional elements of lead and tin, making it a better >> > material for things to slide against it. The lead and tin are slicker >> > metals and aid in making bronze a better bearing material. The common >> > 660 >> > bronze material will be perfect for your application. There is a CDA >> > number for this same material CDA 93200, maybe???, but any metal >> > supplier >> > will know the 660 bronze nomenclature. >> > Curt Holland >> > Bessemer City, NC >> > >> > >> >> Bill, >> >> My thoughts are that the orginal plunger was made of bronze not brass >> >> as >> >> after restoring one of my large Stovers and helping several other >> >> collectors on theirs they were all bronze. Its possible that sometime >> >> ago >> >> some one replaced the plunger with brass stock as he didn't have any >> >> bronze. Not sure if Joe Mauer is tuning in to our list anymore but >> >> since >> >> he is the custody for Stover records and has several large hp Stovers >> >> you >> >> might contact him to confirm. >> >> regards, >> >> Curt Andree >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "bill boyce" >> >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:59:32 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada >> >> Central >> >> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed >> >> >> >> i need to replace the plunger in fuel pump on the 22 hp stover due to >> >> wear. the plunger is of brass material and >> >> travels in a cast iron bore of the pump body,,,,,,,, in checking some >> >> catalogues i found several different kinds of >> >> brass alloy material,,,,, maybe one of you experts could suggest which >> >> type of brass would work best in this >> >> application,,,,,, ? >> >> thanks in advance for any help, >> >> bill boyce >> >> lost prairie, arkansas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SEL mailing list >> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SEL mailing list >> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SEL mailing list >> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > >> > >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Dave Merchant > kosh at ncweb.com > kosh at nesys.com > dmerchant at layerzero.com > > http://www.nesys.com > http://www.nesys.org > YouTube: SteamCrane > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From kosh at ncweb.com Fri Jan 27 10:34:49 2012 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:34:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed In-Reply-To: <62DD62B9CC9F46BB8C21EA6144AEDD2C@billPC> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20120127025750.03f8b980@ncweb.com> <6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> <467180199.16692701327496417404.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> <6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20120127025750.03f8b980@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20120127133146.029fc8c0@ncweb.com> Thanks, I had assumed it would have been from obscure guy working out of his garage that doesn't have a website and never answers his phone. Dave Merchant At 09:01 AM 1/27/2012, you wrote: >dave, i got it from mcmaster carr >bb >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dave Merchant" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:58 AM >Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > > > > Where did you order it from? > > > > Dave Merchant > > > > At 07:54 PM 1/26/2012, you wrote: > >>Curt H, Curt A, and Paul,,,,, thanks for all the input on the fuel pump > >>plunger,,,,, i decided to use > >>a bronze-aluminum alloy, 954,,,,,,,,, it arrived today, a solid round, 1 x > >>13 inches, so tomorrow > >>its sharpen the tool bits and make some chips,,,, thanks again > >>bill boyce > >>lost prairie, arkansas > >> > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: > >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" > >>Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:57 PM > >>Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > >> > >> > >> > > >> > Bill, > >> > Funny this should come up, as Tony Leonard and I were just discussing > >> > this > >> > earlier in the week. > >> > I'm going to echo Curt Andree's comments on bronze being the better > >> > choice. > >> > Brass is simply copper and zinc, not a very "slick" product. > >> > Bronze has the additional elements of lead and tin, making it a better > >> > material for things to slide against it. The lead and tin are slicker > >> > metals and aid in making bronze a better bearing material. The common > >> > 660 > >> > bronze material will be perfect for your application. There is a CDA > >> > number for this same material CDA 93200, maybe???, but any metal > >> > supplier > >> > will know the 660 bronze nomenclature. > >> > Curt Holland > >> > Bessemer City, NC > >> > > >> > > >> >> Bill, > >> >> My thoughts are that the orginal plunger was made of bronze not brass > >> >> as > >> >> after restoring one of my large Stovers and helping several other > >> >> collectors on theirs they were all bronze. Its possible that sometime > >> >> ago > >> >> some one replaced the plunger with brass stock as he didn't have any > >> >> bronze. Not sure if Joe Mauer is tuning in to our list anymore but > >> >> since > >> >> he is the custody for Stover records and has several large hp Stovers > >> >> you > >> >> might contact him to confirm. > >> >> regards, > >> >> Curt Andree > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "bill boyce" > >> >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:59:32 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada > >> >> Central > >> >> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > >> >> > >> >> i need to replace the plunger in fuel pump on the 22 hp stover due to > >> >> wear. the plunger is of brass material and > >> >> travels in a cast iron bore of the pump body,,,,,,,, in checking some > >> >> catalogues i found several different kinds of > >> >> brass alloy material,,,,, maybe one of you experts could suggest which > >> >> type of brass would work best in this > >> >> application,,,,,, ? > >> >> thanks in advance for any help, > >> >> bill boyce > >> >> lost prairie, arkansas > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> SEL mailing list > >> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> SEL mailing list > >> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > SEL mailing list > >> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>SEL mailing list > >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > Dave Merchant > > kosh at ncweb.com > > kosh at nesys.com > > dmerchant at layerzero.com > > > > http://www.nesys.com > > http://www.nesys.org > > YouTube: SteamCrane > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at ncweb.com kosh at nesys.com dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Fri Jan 27 14:09:17 2012 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:09:17 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Oldengine Message-ID: Hi everyone, Is anyone else having trouble viewing pages at oldengine.org? Patrick Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From jrwright at adam.com.au Fri Jan 27 14:18:13 2012 From: jrwright at adam.com.au (John Wright) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:48:13 +1030 Subject: [SEL] Oldengine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000601ccdd41$8f85dff0$ae919fd0$@com.au> No issues in Adelaide. Has been OK all week. Regards John W -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Livingstone Sent: Saturday, 28 January 2012 8:39 AM To: ATIS; Oldengine Subject: [SEL] Oldengine Hi everyone, Is anyone else having trouble viewing pages at oldengine.org? Patrick Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From amkimmell at gmail.com Fri Jan 27 14:23:59 2012 From: amkimmell at gmail.com (Tony Kimmell) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:23:59 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Oldengine Message-ID: Looks like the whole site is down. -Tony From blcksmth at wcnet.org Fri Jan 27 14:46:53 2012 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:46:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Oldengine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F23295D.1000204@wcnet.org> It does not work from here either. Bob Willman The Eagle's Anvil Bowling Green, Ohio WB8NQW The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground. Thomas Jefferson in a letter to E. Carrington, May 27,1788 On 1/27/2012 5:09 PM, Patrick Livingstone wrote: > Hi everyone, > Is anyone else having trouble viewing pages at oldengine.org? > Patrick > > Patrick M Livingstone > 0418 692013 > Earlwood NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From mathjr at optusnet.com.au Fri Jan 27 15:02:48 2012 From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au (John Mathieson) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 10:02:48 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Oldengine References: Message-ID: <9D15BD537B6147519B42D99AFBA50B52@jackospc> Hi patrick, I looked at the site on Thursday no worries but can't connect today. Regards John Mathieson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Livingstone" To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine" Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 9:09 AM Subject: [SEL] Oldengine > Hi everyone, > Is anyone else having trouble viewing pages at oldengine.org? > Patrick > > Patrick M Livingstone > 0418 692013 > Earlwood NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4768 - Release Date: 01/26/12 > From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Jan 27 18:16:15 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:16:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> Hi All, I had a rather bad day Wednesday. Spend the next day in the hospital for observation and testing. Spent today cleaning out the Van of what all was shoveled back into it at the scene. I am not allowed to lift at all so family and friends did the work for me as I made the sorting decisions. I am on at least a week of restricted (NO) lifting due to some internal bleeds that had clotted off. I have to give the internal injuries time to heal. I am not complaining, I am just happy to be alive. I have no right to be. I run a stop sign and got T-Boned. The guy in the other car is ok. Airbags and belts saved him. God saved me. The van rolled at least one and a half times. I was thrown out in the rolling. God has a plan for me or else he would not have seen me out of that as cleanly as I was. Other then the internal bleeds only minor scrapes and bruising. No cuts no broken bones. Sore as heck all over. Happy to be alive. In the back of the van was three Upright Maytags a Johnson Utili-Motor. A Kohler light plant a smaller Kohler engine and a lot of miscellaneous. Still have to evaluate the damage to them. Mark >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van1.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van2.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van3.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van4.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van5.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van6.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van7.jpg Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From amkimmell at gmail.com Fri Jan 27 18:41:36 2012 From: amkimmell at gmail.com (Tony Kimmell) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:41:36 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Accident Message-ID: Holy hell, you're lucky to be alive man. Sending prayers your way for both you and the Maytags. I think the van is past the point of prayer though lol -Tony From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Jan 27 18:52:56 2012 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:52:56 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: DUDE! I?m grateful that we get to read your post, rather than someone else posting that you were dead. Y?know, no matter how old we get, there are always good lessons to be learned. Party on, Garth. From obise at moscow.com Fri Jan 27 22:32:50 2012 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:32:50 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <4F239692.8080101@moscow.com> Mark, I'm terribly sorry to hear of your mishap, but mighty glad you are still in one piece. I feel a bit of kinship to your van, seeing as how our Jaeger took a ride in it, once, thanks to your goodhearted generosity. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 1/27/2012 6:16 PM, Mark Shulaw wrote: > Hi All, I had a rather bad day Wednesday. Spend the next day in the > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From oldengin1 at gmail.com Sat Jan 28 02:48:06 2012 From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 05:48:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: References: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Let me know if I can help in some way. Where did this happen? Leroy On Jan 27, 2012 9:59 PM, "Rob Skinner" wrote: DUDE! I?m grateful that we get to read your post, rather than someone else posting that you were dead. Y?know, no matter how old we get, there are always good lessons to be learned. Party on, Garth. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engi... From mr at carolina.rr.com Sat Jan 28 05:11:30 2012 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:11:30 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Close call Mark! I bet you don't run any more stop signs! Take it easy and get well. Mike Royster -----Original Message----- From: Mark Shulaw Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 9:16 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Accident Hi All, I had a rather bad day Wednesday. Spend the next day in the hospital for observation and testing. Spent today cleaning out the Van of what all was shoveled back into it at the scene. I am not allowed to lift at all so family and friends did the work for me as I made the sorting decisions. I am on at least a week of restricted (NO) lifting due to some internal bleeds that had clotted off. I have to give the internal injuries time to heal. I am not complaining, I am just happy to be alive. I have no right to be. I run a stop sign and got T-Boned. The guy in the other car is ok. Airbags and belts saved him. God saved me. The van rolled at least one and a half times. I was thrown out in the rolling. God has a plan for me or else he would not have seen me out of that as cleanly as I was. Other then the internal bleeds only minor scrapes and bruising. No cuts no broken bones. Sore as heck all over. Happy to be alive. In the back of the van was three Upright Maytags a Johnson Utili-Motor. A Kohler light plant a smaller Kohler engine and a lot of miscellaneous. Still have to evaluate the damage to them. Mark >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van1.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van2.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van3.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van4.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van5.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van6.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van7.jpg Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From donreneau at netzero.net Fri Jan 27 22:48:07 2012 From: donreneau at netzero.net (donreneau at netzero.net) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 06:48:07 GMT Subject: [SEL] Accident Message-ID: <20120128.004807.23189.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Mark, Bless you. You are very lucky to be alive & kicking. Yes you have a purpse in this life. I too am pleased to hear of the accident from you insteadof from a family member.Bless you, our prayers go out for you and the family buddy.Always,Don Reneau ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4f239a62b12848bbd4st05vuc From cuz904_99 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 27 20:36:30 2012 From: cuz904_99 at yahoo.com (John E. Hart) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:36:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] Spam> Message-ID: <1327725390.63877.yint-ygo-j2me@web114709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> ... http://mariarosanaldjian.com.ar/work.link.php?elfortune=71n4 From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Jan 28 06:22:19 2012 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:22:19 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <14051CC7D6244BE191B178C6CD09401B@D2JYVHJ1> Mark, You're a lucky guy. Its rare that an accident with that much damage occurs without serious injury or even death. God was certainly watching over you. Tommy Turner -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark Shulaw Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 9:16 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Accident Hi All, I had a rather bad day Wednesday. Spend the next day in the hospital for observation and testing. Spent today cleaning out the Van of what all was shoveled back into it at the scene. I am not allowed to lift at all so family and friends did the work for me as I made the sorting decisions. I am on at least a week of restricted (NO) lifting due to some internal bleeds that had clotted off. I have to give the internal injuries time to heal. I am not complaining, I am just happy to be alive. I have no right to be. I run a stop sign and got T-Boned. The guy in the other car is ok. Airbags and belts saved him. God saved me. The van rolled at least one and a half times. I was thrown out in the rolling. God has a plan for me or else he would not have seen me out of that as cleanly as I was. Other then the internal bleeds only minor scrapes and bruising. No cuts no broken bones. Sore as heck all over. Happy to be alive. In the back of the van was three Upright Maytags a Johnson Utili-Motor. A Kohler light plant a smaller Kohler engine and a lot of miscellaneous. Still have to evaluate the damage to them. Mark >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van1.jpg From kkinney at herculesengines.com Fri Jan 27 21:07:43 2012 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (kkinney at herculesengines.com) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 23:07:43 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Wow Mark! Looks like you are one blessed man. Keith On Jan 27, 2012, at 8:16 PM, Mark Shulaw wrote: > Hi All, I had a rather bad day Wednesday. Spend the next day in the > hospital for observation and testing. Spent today cleaning out the > Van of what all was shoveled back into it at the scene. I am not > allowed to lift at all so family and friends did the work for me as I > made the sorting decisions. I am on at least a week of restricted > (NO) lifting due to some internal bleeds that had clotted off. I have > to give the internal injuries time to heal. I am not complaining, I > am just happy to be alive. I have no right to be. I run a stop sign > and got T-Boned. The guy in the other car is ok. Airbags and belts > saved him. God saved me. The van rolled at least one and a half > times. I was thrown out in the rolling. God has a plan for me or > else he would not have seen me out of that as cleanly as I was. Other > then the internal bleeds only minor scrapes and bruising. No cuts no > broken bones. Sore as heck all over. Happy to be alive. > > In the back of the van was three Upright Maytags a Johnson > Utili-Motor. A Kohler light plant a smaller Kohler engine and a lot > of miscellaneous. Still have to evaluate the damage to them. Mark > > >> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van1.jpg >> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van2.jpg >> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van3.jpg >> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van4.jpg >> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van5.jpg >> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van6.jpg >> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van7.jpg > > > Mark Shulaw > 454 County Road 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home > Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere > and Hercules Engines. > Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jlb94 at juno.com Sat Jan 28 07:03:05 2012 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:03:05 GMT Subject: [SEL] Accident Message-ID: <20120128.100305.30443.1@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> Glad you're still with us Mark. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ ?There?s no doubt about it, (_0_) Dogs are nicer than people.? Andy Rooney ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Mark Shulaw To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Accident Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:16:15 -0500 Hi All, I had a rather bad day Wednesday. Spend the next day in the hospital for observation and testing. Spent today cleaning out the Van of what all was shoveled back into it at the scene. I am not allowed to lift at all so family and friends did the work for me as I made the sorting decisions. I am on at least a week of restricted (NO) lifting due to some internal bleeds that had clotted off. I have to give the internal injuries time to heal. I am not complaining, I am just happy to be alive. I have no right to be. I run a stop sign and got T-Boned. The guy in the other car is ok. Airbags and belts saved him. God saved me. The van rolled at least one and a half times. I was thrown out in the rolling. God has a plan for me or else he would not have seen me out of that as cleanly as I was. Other then the internal bleeds only minor scrapes and bruising. No cuts no broken bones. Sore as heck all over. Happy to be alive. In the back of the van was three Upright Maytags a Johnson Utili-Motor. A Kohler light plant a smaller Kohler engine and a lot of miscellaneous. Still have to evaluate the damage to them. Mark >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van1.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van2.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van3.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van4.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van5.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van6.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van7.jpg Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f240e673adec4acdf1st06vuc From maytagtwin at aol.com Fri Jan 27 20:36:21 2012 From: maytagtwin at aol.com (maytagtwin at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 23:36:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <8CEAB8D84DB5AC8-1B50-8614@angweb-usm005.sysops.aol.com> Hi Mark, Surely glad to hear you made it through in as good a shape as you did. I look forward to your progress reports, and, to learning about the condition of your passengers. Ron -----Original Message----- From: Mark Shulaw To: The SEL email discussion list Sent: Fri, Jan 27, 2012 8:28 pm Subject: [SEL] Accident Hi All, I had a rather bad day Wednesday. Spend the next day in the ospital for observation and testing. Spent today cleaning out the an of what all was shoveled back into it at the scene. I am not llowed to lift at all so family and friends did the work for me as I ade the sorting decisions. I am on at least a week of restricted NO) lifting due to some internal bleeds that had clotted off. I have o give the internal injuries time to heal. I am not complaining, I m just happy to be alive. I have no right to be. I run a stop sign nd got T-Boned. The guy in the other car is ok. Airbags and belts aved him. God saved me. The van rolled at least one and a half imes. I was thrown out in the rolling. God has a plan for me or lse he would not have seen me out of that as cleanly as I was. Other hen the internal bleeds only minor scrapes and bruising. No cuts no roken bones. Sore as heck all over. Happy to be alive. In the back of the van was three Upright Maytags a Johnson tili-Motor. A Kohler light plant a smaller Kohler engine and a lot f miscellaneous. Still have to evaluate the damage to them. Mark http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van1.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van2.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van3.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van4.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van5.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van6.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van7.jpg ark Shulaw 54 County Road 33 luffton, OH. 45817 SA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home obby Collector and Dealer in John Deere nd Hercules Engines. aytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. ISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com _______________________________________________ EL mailing list EL at lists.stationary-engine.com ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From yostsw at atis.net Sun Jan 29 16:26:49 2012 From: yostsw at atis.net (Spencer Yost) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 19:26:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Test Message-ID: <56D7CCC5-CA65-4191-956F-345C902D8E53@atis.net> Just a test after hardware repair. Spencer Sent from my iPhone From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Sun Jan 29 19:58:11 2012 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (pjp08 at steamengine.com.au) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:58:11 +1100 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <50559.203.39.62.50.1327895891.squirrel@mail.steamengine.com.au> Not much left of that van Mark - probably a good thing you were thrown out. Hope you recover fully and can get back into the hobby with the upcoming re-restoration of your passengers. Regards Paul > Hi All, I had a rather bad day Wednesday. Spend the next day in the > hospital for observation and testing. From enginepaul at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 06:23:19 2012 From: enginepaul at gmail.com (STRAIGHT from SanFran) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 06:23:19 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: <50559.203.39.62.50.1327895891.squirrel@mail.steamengine.com.au> References: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> <50559.203.39.62.50.1327895891.squirrel@mail.steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: Mark: I hope you realize how lucky you were. Those are scary pictures - except for the one with the crutch against the van; that will make a good reminder. Good luck, and a speedy recovery. Paul in California From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Jan 30 10:34:34 2012 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:34:34 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20120130201345.01f4f1e8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 07:00 PM 30/01/12, you wrote: Message: 7 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:16:15 -0500 From: Mark Shulaw Subject: [SEL] Accident Hi All, I had a rather bad day Wednesday. Spend the next day in the hospital for observation and testing. Spent today cleaning out the Van of what all was shoveled back into it at the scene. I am not allowed to lift at all so family and friends did the work for me as I made the sorting decisions. I am on at least a week of restricted (NO) lifting due to some internal bleeds that had clotted off. I have to give the internal injuries time to heal. I am not complaining, I am just happy to be alive. I have no right to be. I run a stop sign and got T-Boned. The guy in the other car is ok. Airbags and belts saved him. God saved me. The van rolled at least one and a half times. I was thrown out in the rolling. God has a plan for me or else he would not have seen me out of that as cleanly as I was. Other then the internal bleeds only minor scrapes and bruising. No cuts no broken bones. Sore as heck all over. Happy to be alive. In the back of the van was three Upright Maytags a Johnson Utili-Motor. A Kohler light plant a smaller Kohler engine and a lot of miscellaneous. Still have to evaluate the damage to them. Mark Hi Mark (and Christine), Dammit man that looks bad - you gotta be more careful -we still need you - where else are we going to buy Maytag parts and get information if you go and write yourself off !! :-) (For those amongst us who happen to be humorously challenged - I'm joking !! - it never works if you have to explain it !!) Mark mate, it's good to know you escaped that lot with what appears to be only minor injuries. Yes, God was looking after you and you will be in my prayers again but, thankfully, this time it will be because you were protected that I will give thanks and also pray for a full and fast recovery for you. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: <[1]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> References 1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Mon Jan 30 11:26:16 2012 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:26:16 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 9 hp Galloway setback Message-ID: Howdee all; Well after pressure washing out the gunk behind the piston, it now shows ~1" x 2" chunk out of the piston skirt. So we are looking for one...6-1/2" dia. bore and piston is ~8-1/2" long. Piston is still stuck so we can't get exact measurements. If all else fails we will have to have one made so are there any recommendations out there for having one made? Thanks much!! RickinMt. From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon Jan 30 11:33:06 2012 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:33:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 9 hp Galloway setback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00b401ccdf85$fe287350$fa7959f0$@com> Fooling with skirts has gotten guys in a lot of trouble through the years. I think you'll be OK in this case though. 6 1/2" should be a fairly easy to find size. I'd bet Ken Meeks would have one. No telling what it may be out of but if its 6 1/2 x 8 or so, you could make a go of it. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard Strobel Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 2:26 PM To: The SEL email discussion list; stationary-engine Subject: [SEL] 9 hp Galloway setback Howdee all; Well after pressure washing out the gunk behind the piston, it now shows ~1" x 2" chunk out of the piston skirt. So we are looking for one...6-1/2" dia. bore and piston is ~8-1/2" long. Piston is still stuck so we can't get exact measurements. If all else fails we will have to have one made so are there any recommendations out there for having one made? Thanks much!! RickinMt. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From skipl130 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 30 11:47:37 2012 From: skipl130 at yahoo.com (Skip Landis) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:47:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] 9 hp Galloway setback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1327952857.75411.YahooMailNeo@web112410.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Rick, why not fit a piece in it?? skip ________________________________ From: Richard Strobel To: The SEL email discussion list ; stationary-engine Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: [SEL] 9 hp Galloway setback Howdee all; ? Well after pressure washing out the gunk behind the piston, it now shows ~1" x 2" chunk out of the piston skirt.? So we are looking for one...6-1/2" dia. bore and piston is ~8-1/2" long.? Piston is still stuck so we can't get exact measurements. ? If all else fails we will have to have one made so are there any recommendations out there for having one made? Thanks much!! RickinMt. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 14:44:52 2012 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 09:44:52 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Glad to hear you are ok. Your van certainly took a big hit. Patrick Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From yostsw at atis.net Mon Jan 30 18:08:36 2012 From: yostsw at atis.net (Spencer Yost) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:08:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] ATIS outage In-Reply-To: <151f82570a6699b42d141e92a3f30ede.squirrel@www.sundance-consulting.com> References: <151f82570a6699b42d141e92a3f30ede.squirrel@www.sundance-consulting.com> Message-ID: <4F274D23.9010203@atis.net> Just a quick update: - Late Friday night the ATIS server went down. A disk had went bad. Fortunately I had anticipated the outage because some of the disk parameters were beginning to look bad(What did we do before SMART parameters???). So I already had the disks in hand (got them Wednesday) - just hadn't installed them yet though. Unfortunately I __HAD__ to go out of town Saturday morning. There was no re-scheduling that trip. I tried to finish the job before I had to leave Saturday morning but I only got 50% finished. So I finished fixing it late Sunday when I returned. Sorry for the outage and the delay in repairing. Let me know if you see any hiccups or issues, but I think everything should be exactly as it was late Friday before the outage. Spencer From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Mon Jan 30 18:15:31 2012 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:15:31 +1100 Subject: [SEL] ATIS outage In-Reply-To: <4F274D23.9010203@atis.net> References: <151f82570a6699b42d141e92a3f30ede.squirrel@www.sundance-consulting.com> <4F274D23.9010203@atis.net> Message-ID: <4F274EC3.7050207@optusnet.com.au> Thank you Spencer for your time and effort in giving us the list that we value, well done again Kerry Sorry for the outage and the delay in repairing. Let me know if you see any hiccups or issues, but I think everything should be exactly as it was late Friday before the outage. Spencer -- Kerry Morris Tangye Engine Registrar 0400421133 Web Page. www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/ From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon Jan 30 18:23:27 2012 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:23:27 -0500 Subject: [SEL] ATIS outage In-Reply-To: <4F274D23.9010203@atis.net> Message-ID: <0FC8190AE9354606870B59F094E38B65@ckcsdb40cdd57a> Thanks Spencer for all you do for us and helping keep the old iron world connected. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Spencer Yost Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 9:09 PM To: Antique tractor email discussion group; The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] ATIS outage Just a quick update: - Late Friday night the ATIS server went down. A disk had went bad. Fortunately I had anticipated the outage because some of the disk parameters were beginning to look bad(What did we do before SMART parameters???). So I already had the disks in hand (got them Wednesday) - just hadn't installed them yet though. Unfortunately I __HAD__ to go out of town Saturday morning. There was no re-scheduling that trip. I tried to finish the job before I had to leave Saturday morning but I only got 50% finished. So I finished fixing it late Sunday when I returned. Sorry for the outage and the delay in repairing. Let me know if you see any hiccups or issues, but I think everything should be exactly as it was late Friday before the outage. Spencer _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From curt at rustyiron.com Mon Jan 30 18:40:45 2012 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:40:45 -0800 Subject: [SEL] ATIS outage In-Reply-To: <4F274D23.9010203@atis.net> References: <151f82570a6699b42d141e92a3f30ede.squirrel@www.sundance-consulting.com> <4F274D23.9010203@atis.net> Message-ID: <1660152800f154245e4afb60fe8ba02a.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> > Sorry for the outage and the delay in repairing. Let me know if you see > any hiccups or issues, but I think everything should be exactly as it > was late Friday before the outage. > > Spencer Spencer, If only a certain piece of old oil field iron could receive as prompt a TLC as the server did :-) Made any progress this winter? Just funnin with ya. Thanks for all you do for the lists. Curt Holland Bessemer City, NC From jrwright at adam.com.au Sun Jan 1 03:14:53 2012 From: jrwright at adam.com.au (John Wright) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 21:44:53 +1030 Subject: [SEL] Restoration Request for Information Message-ID: <007301ccc876$96155ba0$c24012e0$@com.au> Hi to all on the list. I have been a silent member a little over 12 months, and enjoy the discussion on the list. It has now come to the time where I am seeking assistance from the group on a number of restoration issues. Olds Type 4A 6hp circa 1904 (Approx as best as I can work out.) Can anyone advise me of the clearance required between the bore and the piston. The bore is scored and needs to be sleeved likewise the piston will need to be ground. I intend to have the piston ground removing enough material to remove the score marks. Hopefully I will get away with removing about 0.02" (20 thou) of the piston. That will make the piston 20 thou undersize. The original size bore is 5.5" Mostinger Auto Sparker I am in the process of restoring a Motsinger Auto Sparker which I intend to put on the Olds. Unfortunately it needs a complete electrical rebuild. (i.e. new coils and the armature rewound) As well as a new governor being required. Can anyone assist with coil winding information. (i.e. number of turns, turns per layer, coil start and finish, direction of winding and connection details) Ronaldson & Tippet 3hp type N Hopper Cooled (one for the Oz boys) What is the correct colour for the engine? Is there a correct name for the green? Being tapered roller bearings on the crankshaft how is the end float set up? Is there any pre load required on the bearings? The cylinder needs to be sleeved due to rust pits in the bore. The bore is 3.5" and the piston which is serviceable is 5 thou under 3.5" i.e. 3.495" Likewise as for the Olds what is the clearance require between the piston and the cylinder. Many Thanks Regards John W Greenhill South Australia From jbcast at charter.net Sun Jan 1 03:50:16 2012 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 06:50:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Restoration Request for Information Message-ID: <51c78a05.bbd98.134991b1868.Webtop.48@charter.net> The sleeves I use come .030" under standard bore, this is to give you some room for error when setting up and doing the final bore. I usually machine .010" off the piston and leave the bore.010 under to have a like new fit. I never machine a piston untill I make sure the bore clears. If I were to go .020 under I would hone the .010 out of the new sleeve, little chance for error. .001 per inch clearance, .0055" in your case should be OK. I don't think it's necessary to grind the pistons, they usually machine very well, remember to remove the same amount all the way up on each ring land. The top land is usually .020-.030" smaller than the bore. J.B. Castagnos On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:14 AM, John Wright wrote: > Hi to all on the list. > > > I have been a silent member a little over 12 months, and enjoy the > discussion on the list. > > It has now come to the time where I am seeking assistance from the > group on > a number of restoration issues. > > > Olds Type 4A 6hp circa 1904 (Approx as best as I can work out.) > > Can anyone advise me of the clearance required between the bore and > the > piston. > > The bore is scored and needs to be sleeved likewise the piston will > need to > be ground. > I intend to have the piston ground removing enough material to remove > the > score marks. > > Hopefully I will get away with removing about 0.02" (20 thou) of the > piston. > That will make the piston 20 thou undersize. > > The original size bore is 5.5" > > Mostinger Auto Sparker > > I am in the process of restoring a Motsinger Auto Sparker which I > intend to > put on the Olds. > > Unfortunately it needs a complete electrical rebuild. (i.e. new coils > and > the armature rewound) As well as a new governor being required. > > Can anyone assist with coil winding information. > (i.e. number of turns, turns per layer, coil start and finish, > direction of > winding and connection details) > > Ronaldson & Tippet 3hp type N Hopper Cooled (one for the Oz boys) > > What is the correct colour for the engine? Is there a correct name > for the > green? > > Being tapered roller bearings on the crankshaft how is the end float > set up? > > Is there any pre load required on the bearings? > > The cylinder needs to be sleeved due to rust pits in the bore. > > The bore is 3.5" and the piston which is serviceable is 5 thou under > 3.5" > i.e. 3.495" > > Likewise as for the Olds what is the clearance require between the > piston > and the cylinder. > > > Many Thanks > > Regards > > John W > > Greenhill > > South Australia > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From asouth42 at embarqmail.com Sun Jan 1 06:43:28 2012 From: asouth42 at embarqmail.com (Arthur Southwell) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 09:43:28 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. 1-1-2012 Message-ID: <8C3D923BF8AC4CC1976061D65D40F20B@ArthurHP2> HAPPY NEW YEAR SEL LIST. Arthur Southwell Arcadia, FL 34266 USA asouth42 at embarqmail.com From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jan 1 09:25:02 2012 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 12:25:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Restoration Request for Information In-Reply-To: <007301ccc876$96155ba0$c24012e0$@com.au> References: <007301ccc876$96155ba0$c24012e0$@com.au> Message-ID: <6b7ef0d1b022be0b9846a3da85422d4b.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Hi John, Welcome to an active role on the list!! 8-)) Rather than bore / sleeve the cylinder and grinding down the piston, why not consider just boring the cylinder and building up the piston by flame spraying? This was the process that Craig Prucha used on my Bessemer half-breed. It worked REALLY well. See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA USA fero_ah at city-net.com On Sun, January 1, 2012 6:14 am, John Wright wrote: > > Olds Type 4A 6hp circa 1904 (Approx as best as I can work out.) > > Can anyone advise me of the clearance required between the bore and the > piston. > > The bore is scored and needs to be sleeved likewise the piston will need > to be ground. > > I intend to have the piston ground removing enough material to remove the > score marks. > > Hopefully I will get away with removing about 0.02" (20 thou) of the > piston. That will make the piston 20 thou undersize. > > The original size bore is 5.5" From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Sun Jan 1 12:51:51 2012 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (Craig Morrison) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 20:51:51 -0000 Subject: [SEL] Happy New Year & Wingate University Message-ID: <75E8A01422C640128E308ED2809A5D2E@craig8b4f43368> Hi Everyone, I sure hope that everyone has enjoyed celebrating the new year by drinking and eat to excess as well as running that all important engine as close to the appointed time as possible. Well tonight whilst watching tv I stumbled across the final of the worlds strongest man ,where is this leading I can here yourself ask, well it was held in the grounds of Wingate University NC ( not all that unusual) but the thing that surprised me the most was that "neither of the ROYSTER brothers were amongst the competitors.Being as it was in there area I would have thought they would have been there to represent the SEL and show those guys who was the mightiest. Best wishes, Craig P.S; May everyone have happy and safe enjoyable shows again this year From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jan 1 14:17:09 2012 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 17:17:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Happy New Year & Wingate University In-Reply-To: <75E8A01422C640128E308ED2809A5D2E@craig8b4f43368> References: <75E8A01422C640128E308ED2809A5D2E@craig8b4f43368> Message-ID: <2910FCB24DD94E85811581DC1E88CA3B@RoysterPC> Hi Craig and all: Yes it was quite the contest and we usually place pretty well in it, since Steve provides the judges with arthritis medicine while there. But this year Steve was in Florida and I had business to address so we were unable to attend. Perhaps there is a similar event in Scotland that you frequent and would like to regale us with your win/loss record? Happy New Year to you all! Mike (the good brother for today) Royster From: Craig Morrison Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 3:51 PM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com Cc: Steve Royster ; Mike Royster Subject: Happy New Year & Wingate University Hi Everyone, I sure hope that everyone has enjoyed celebrating the new year by drinking and eat to excess as well as running that all important engine as close to the appointed time as possible. Well tonight whilst watching tv I stumbled across the final of the worlds strongest man ,where is this leading I can here yourself ask, well it was held in the grounds of Wingate University NC ( not all that unusual) but the thing that surprised me the most was that "neither of the ROYSTER brothers were amongst the competitors.Being as it was in there area I would have thought they would have been there to represent the SEL and show those guys who was the mightiest. Best wishes, Craig P.S; May everyone have happy and safe enjoyable shows again this year From kkinney at herculesengines.com Sun Jan 1 14:30:12 2012 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (kkinney at herculesengines.com) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 16:30:12 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Happy New Year & Wingate University In-Reply-To: <75E8A01422C640128E308ED2809A5D2E@craig8b4f43368> References: <75E8A01422C640128E308ED2809A5D2E@craig8b4f43368> Message-ID: <8690D484-0156-4A24-9170-F274F6F4E546@herculesengines.com> Craig I'm sure if they had a contest for the strongest mouth they would have won hands down. Keith On Jan 1, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Craig Morrison wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I sure hope that everyone has enjoyed celebrating the new year by drinking and eat to excess as well as running that all important engine as close to the appointed time as possible. > Well tonight whilst watching tv I stumbled across the final of the worlds strongest man ,where is this leading I can here yourself ask, well it was held in the grounds of Wingate University NC ( not all that unusual) but the thing that surprised me the most was that "neither of the ROYSTER brothers were amongst the competitors.Being as it was in there area I would have thought they would have been there to represent the SEL and show those guys who was the mightiest. > > Best wishes, Craig > > P.S; May everyone have happy and safe enjoyable shows again this year > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From tchristoff at earthlink.net Sun Jan 1 15:52:02 2012 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 17:52:02 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [SEL] Happy New Year & Wingate University Message-ID: <17573599.1325461923039.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net> No doubt having a blue tarp issue. Tim Christoff -----Original Message----- >From: Mike Royster >Sent: Jan 1, 2012 4:17 PM >To: Craig Morrison , SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >Subject: Re: [SEL] Happy New Year & Wingate University > > >and I had business to address so we were unable to attend. < >Mike (the good brother for today) Royster > Tim Christoff From curt at rustyiron.com Sun Jan 1 19:59:38 2012 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 19:59:38 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Happy New Year & Wingate University In-Reply-To: <8690D484-0156-4A24-9170-F274F6F4E546@herculesengines.com> References: <75E8A01422C640128E308ED2809A5D2E@craig8b4f43368> <8690D484-0156-4A24-9170-F274F6F4E546@herculesengines.com> Message-ID: <8e6a79eecfd4aaa67412e6916eb6716d.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> > Craig > I'm sure if they had a contest for the strongest mouth .... > Keith Keith, I thought this was a family list! :-) Curt H From curt at rustyiron.com Sun Jan 1 21:55:57 2012 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 21:55:57 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Restoration Request for Information In-Reply-To: <6b7ef0d1b022be0b9846a3da85422d4b.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <007301ccc876$96155ba0$c24012e0$@com.au> <6b7ef0d1b022be0b9846a3da85422d4b.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: <258f604e17c1f2c87dd510a24aeecfa9.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> Welcome John, I'll echo what Arnie said. It's a shame to bore out precious cylinder wall thickness, weakening the cylinder wall. Flame spray as Arnie mentioned or even better, venture into the world of pattern making and cast a new oversize piston. It's really a fairly painless process. Here is one of several I've done. Curt Holland Bessemer City, NC USA > Hi John, > > Welcome to an active role on the list!! 8-)) > > Rather than bore / sleeve the cylinder and grinding > down the piston, why not consider just boring the cylinder > and building up the piston by flame spraying? This was the > process that Craig Prucha used on my Bessemer half-breed. > > It worked REALLY well. > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA USA > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > On Sun, January 1, 2012 6:14 am, John Wright wrote: >> >> Olds Type 4A 6hp circa 1904 (Approx as best as I can work out.) >> >> Can anyone advise me of the clearance required between the bore and the >> piston. >> >> The bore is scored and needs to be sleeved likewise the piston will need >> to be ground. >> >> I intend to have the piston ground removing enough material to remove >> the >> score marks. >> >> Hopefully I will get away with removing about 0.02" (20 thou) of the >> piston. That will make the piston 20 thou undersize. >> >> The original size bore is 5.5" > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From marinesurveys at msn.com Sun Jan 1 23:11:48 2012 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 02:11:48 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Restoration Request for Information In-Reply-To: <258f604e17c1f2c87dd510a24aeecfa9.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> References: <007301ccc876$96155ba0$c24012e0$@com.au>, <6b7ef0d1b022be0b9846a3da85422d4b.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>, <258f604e17c1f2c87dd510a24aeecfa9.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> Message-ID: Curt; Thats great looking work, congrats. What foundry did you use? and do they cast brass / bronze ? Best Regards Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 21:55:57 -0800 > From: curt at rustyiron.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Restoration Request for Information > > > Welcome John, > I'll echo what Arnie said. It's a shame to bore out precious cylinder wall > thickness, weakening the cylinder wall. Flame spray as Arnie mentioned or > even better, venture into the world of pattern making and cast a new > oversize piston. It's really a fairly painless process. Here is one of > several I've done. > > Curt Holland > Bessemer City, NC USA > > > > Hi John, > > > > Welcome to an active role on the list!! 8-)) > > > > Rather than bore / sleeve the cylinder and grinding > > down the piston, why not consider just boring the cylinder > > and building up the piston by flame spraying? This was the > > process that Craig Prucha used on my Bessemer half-breed. > > > > It worked REALLY well. > > > > See ya, Arnie > > > > Arnie Fero > > Pittsburgh, PA USA > > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > > > On Sun, January 1, 2012 6:14 am, John Wright wrote: > >> > >> Olds Type 4A 6hp circa 1904 (Approx as best as I can work out.) > >> > >> Can anyone advise me of the clearance required between the bore and the > >> piston. > >> > >> The bore is scored and needs to be sleeved likewise the piston will need > >> to be ground. > >> > >> I intend to have the piston ground removing enough material to remove > >> the > >> score marks. > >> > >> Hopefully I will get away with removing about 0.02" (20 thou) of the > >> piston. That will make the piston 20 thou undersize. > >> > >> The original size bore is 5.5" > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Jan 2 12:37:10 2012 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 22:37:10 +0200 Subject: [SEL] New Year startup video Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20120102220709.00c564f0@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Hi Everyone, It's a bit late but I've put a video of our New Year 2012 startup here: It's 7.7 MBytes and about the lowest resolution I could get to for the web so, I apologise for the low res. but have to consider those of us who do not have the quickest connections. Instead of clicking on the above link it is best to right click and choose to save the file to your computer for viewing later - resolution gets even worse when viewed in a browser. On the same subject, if my voice sounds a bit slurred, it's only because of the low resolution file and has nothing whatsoever to do with the amount of alcohol consumed at the time. (If you believe that, I'd love to hear from you "off list" as I also have a bridge for sale! :-)) Keep well everyone and belated "HAPPY NEW YEAR" With love from Jerry and Jacqui From ddotto at cableone.net Mon Jan 2 12:59:41 2012 From: ddotto at cableone.net (Dave Otto) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 13:59:41 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New Year startup video In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20120102220709.00c564f0@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20120102220709.00c564f0@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: <561B267BD56748BDA76F92B0FBCC5323@shop> Hi Jerry & Jacqui Great video! And happy new year to you also. Best regards, Dave Dave Otto Boise, Idaho USA -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 1:37 PM To: SEL List Subject: [SEL] New Year startup video Hi Everyone, It's a bit late but I've put a video of our New Year 2012 startup here: It's 7.7 MBytes and about the lowest resolution I could get to for the web so, I apologise for the low res. but have to consider those of us who do not have the quickest connections. Instead of clicking on the above link it is best to right click and choose to save the file to your computer for viewing later - resolution gets even worse when viewed in a browser. On the same subject, if my voice sounds a bit slurred, it's only because of the low resolution file and has nothing whatsoever to do with the amount of alcohol consumed at the time. (If you believe that, I'd love to hear from you "off list" as I also have a bridge for sale! :-)) Keep well everyone and belated "HAPPY NEW YEAR" With love from Jerry and Jacqui _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Tue Jan 3 08:10:49 2012 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:10:49 -0600 Subject: [SEL] New Year's Crankup In-Reply-To: <4EFD19A8.8040509@telus.net> References: <4EFD19A8.8040509@telus.net> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD410FE05C6A3@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Didn't crank up any of my old engines, but did manage to run my 351w a bit. It had a Holley 780 double pumper with mechanical secondaries which had been professionally modified to flow a LOT of gas. Made a lot of HP, but sucked gas bad enough to give me single digit mileage when I took it out for drives. So yesterday I swapped a smaller Holley Street Avenger with vacuum secondaries on it to detune it a bit and maybe at least get double digit mileage. Sounded great but couldn't take it out for a test drive as one of the flare fittings didn't seat right and is dripping a bit of gas. Got to fix the leak and wait for a dry day to take it out for a test. Did have someone stop by yesterday to look at a Vaughan Flex-tred I have advertised. They also have about 50 flywheel engines, but they didn't have anything they were willing to sell or trade. One of those collectors that when they get something it never leaves their collection. I did get to show them some of my flywheel engines in the shed although none were setup to run at the moment. Don't know which engine yet, but I do think I'll seriously try this year to get one of the engines that hasn't run in many years running again. Got several of those to choose from ;-) Someone remind me later this year to follow through on this statement. :-) George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Jan 3 11:05:05 2012 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 21:05:05 +0200 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Totally "off topic"/UPDATE Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20120103205630.01f99320@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Hi All, In December I posted about my mother riding on the Oribi Gorge "Zip Line". There is an article about her ride here: <[1]http://www.fever-blue.co.za/11757/news/article/39my-91st-birthday-w ish39> Jerry Hi All, My mother turned 91 today and she celebrated by going for a ride on this: <[2]http://www.encounter.co.za/what-to-do/adventure/zip-line/> My Mom is the 94 year old (they got the age wrong - poetic licence ??) mentioned in this article: <[3]http://www.iol.co.za/travel/south-africa/kwazulu-natal/zip-zapped-1 .1202206> On Youtube <[4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEdIGORNYAc> but they only show the first part of the ride on this video- it goes a lot further. She absolutely loved the experience - now I'm worried that she may plan a parachute jump next year :-) because both my elder brother and I were paratroopers in the good ole South Africa !!!!!! All for now. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: <[5]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> References 1. http://www.fever-blue.co.za/11757/news/article/39my-91st-birthday-wish39 2. http://www.encounter.co.za/what-to-do/adventure/zip-line/ 3. http://www.iol.co.za/travel/south-africa/kwazulu-natal/zip-zapped-1.1202206 4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEdIGORNYAc 5. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From obise at moscow.com Tue Jan 3 17:01:10 2012 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 17:01:10 -0800 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Totally "off topic"/UPDATE In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20120103205630.01f99320@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20120103205630.01f99320@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: <4F03A4D6.4040106@moscow.com> My word, Jerry! You mom has seen more than her share of hardship. Her spirit must be made of steel. Thank you for sharing the link to her remarkable story. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 1/3/2012 11:05 AM, Jerry Evans wrote: > Hi All, > In December I posted about my mother riding on the Oribi Gorge > "Zip Line". > There is an article about her ride here: > <[1]http://www.fever-blue.co.za/11757/news/article/39my-91st-birthday-w > ish39> > Jerry > Hi All, > My mother turned 91 today and she celebrated by going for a > ride on this: > <[2]http://www.encounter.co.za/what-to-do/adventure/zip-line/> > My Mom is the 94 year old (they got the age wrong - poetic > licence ??) mentioned in this article: > <[3]http://www.iol.co.za/travel/south-africa/kwazulu-natal/zip-zapped-1 > .1202206> > On Youtube<[4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEdIGORNYAc> but > they only show the first part of the ride on this video- it goes a lot > further. > She absolutely loved the experience - now I'm worried that she > may plan a parachute jump next year :-) because both my elder brother > and I were paratroopers in the good ole South Africa !!!!!! > All for now. > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > <[5]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> > > References > > 1. http://www.fever-blue.co.za/11757/news/article/39my-91st-birthday-wish39 > 2. http://www.encounter.co.za/what-to-do/adventure/zip-line/ > 3. http://www.iol.co.za/travel/south-africa/kwazulu-natal/zip-zapped-1.1202206 > 4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEdIGORNYAc > 5. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From swilliams268 at frontier.com Wed Jan 4 03:44:21 2012 From: swilliams268 at frontier.com (Steve W.) Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 06:44:21 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Hello??? Message-ID: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> Anyone out there??? -- Steve W. From cgandree at mchsi.com Wed Jan 4 04:23:03 2012 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 06:23:03 -0600 (CST) Subject: [SEL] Hello??? In-Reply-To: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> Message-ID: <1042438351.13282861325679783674.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Hey Steve whats matter too much New Years Cheer????? Yes, I hear you loud and clear. Curt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve W." To: "ATIS LIST" , "Engine list" Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 5:44:21 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [SEL] Hello??? Anyone out there??? -- Steve W. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From n8vqe at frontier.com Wed Jan 4 07:15:24 2012 From: n8vqe at frontier.com (Carl Casdorph) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:15:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Hello??? In-Reply-To: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> Message-ID: <5519116B-2184-47A3-BA4F-9B72C863F30A@frontier.com> Just nod if you can hear me. Sorry couldn't resist the Pink Floyd comment. I'm at the hospital with Carmen for her surgery, they just took her back to the OR. Have you got the 20 HP running yet? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:44 AM, "Steve W." wrote: > Anyone out there??? > > -- > Steve W. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From n8vqe at frontier.com Wed Jan 4 07:20:37 2012 From: n8vqe at frontier.com (Carl Casdorph) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:20:37 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Hello??? In-Reply-To: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> Message-ID: Oops sorry I didn't realize that went to the list. I have a buddy that goes by Steve W and I thought that was him. But he is working on a 20 HP Reid so it is kinda engine related. Later, CarlC On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:44 AM, "Steve W." wrote: > Anyone out there??? > > -- > Steve W. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Thu Jan 5 15:12:47 2012 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (Craig Morrison) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 23:12:47 -0000 Subject: [SEL] hot tube chimneys Message-ID: Guys, What type of material should we be using for lining a hot tube chimney, as I have a buddy that has a few that have no linings in them and he feels that he is losing a lot of heat because of this, bearing in mind that it is quite a bit colder here in the U.K even in our so called summer. Thanks, craig From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Thu Jan 5 15:35:04 2012 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (gasenginetom at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 18:35:04 -0500 Subject: [SEL] hot tube chimneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Asbestos Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Craig Morrison To: Stationary Engine List Sent: Thu, Jan 5, 2012 23:12:47 GMT+00:00 Subject: [SEL] hot tube chimneys Guys, What type of material should we be using for lining a hot tube chimney, as I have a buddy that has a few that have no linings in them and he feels that he is losing a lot of heat because of this, bearing in mind that it is quite a bit colder here in the U.K even in our so called summer. Thanks, craig _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Jan 5 16:44:10 2012 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 16:44:10 -0800 Subject: [SEL] hot tube chimneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jan 5, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Craig Morrison wrote: > Guys, > > What type of material should we be using for lining a hot tube chimney, as I have a buddy that has a few that have no linings in them and he feels that he is losing a lot of heat because of this, bearing in mind that it is quite a bit colder here in the U.K even in our so called summer. Hi, Craig. I?ve used some ceramic insulation sheets. It looks like felt, but it?s white. I?ve found that the insulation doesn?t make much difference at all here in SoCal. What makes a big difference for me is the wind. I have a couple engines, that when running at slow speed and not very hot, even a slight breeze on a warm day can kill them. Wind barriers, or a tractor guy standing on the windward side, might do the most good. Tractor guys produce a lot of wind on their own, so you have to be careful around an open flame. Rob From bakermonitor1932 at hotmail.com Fri Jan 6 02:07:21 2012 From: bakermonitor1932 at hotmail.com (Devin Holland) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 10:07:21 +0000 Subject: [SEL] hello sel@lists.stationary-engine.com Message-ID: hey sel at lists.stationary-engine.com I cant imagine doing anything else http://www.newsonthefly10.com From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 6 17:05:37 2012 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 17:05:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] McCormick Deering LA engine color decision Message-ID: <1325898337.2660.YahooMailClassic@web111712.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Here is the document ? http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/libraryarchives/ihc/paint/display.asp?pageurl=115_01.gif ? Alan in Michigan From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 7 15:16:23 2012 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (=?utf-8?B?c2x1Z2dvNTRAaG90bWFpbC5jb20=?=) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:16:23 -0600 Subject: [SEL] =?utf-8?q?_McCormick_Deering_LA_engine_color_decision?= Message-ID: Did you notice the name of the third member of the paint committee? Great name for an engine guy - Babbit... Bruce Younger Sluggo54 at hotmail.com Oh, look at the cute kitty! From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sat Jan 7 16:29:30 2012 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 16:29:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] McCormick Deering LA engine color decision In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1325982570.33975.YahooMailClassic@web111706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Are you ADD? --- On Sat, 1/7/12, sluggo54 at hotmail.com wrote: Oh, look at the cute kitty! _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Sat Jan 7 18:58:39 2012 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 21:58:39 -0500 Subject: [SEL] McCormick Deering LA engine color decision In-Reply-To: <1325982570.33975.YahooMailClassic@web111706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1325982570.33975.YahooMailClassic@web111706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8ECEF964-A024-47E7-A1A5-D995B35926CE@me.com> It wasn't ADD, it was Bruce! Dave On Jan 7, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Alan wrote: > Are you ADD? > > > --- On Sat, 1/7/12, sluggo54 at hotmail.com wrote: > > > Oh, look at the cute kitty! > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Sun Jan 8 11:17:48 2012 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 13:17:48 -0600 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 94, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > It wasn't ADD, it was Bruce! > Dave > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Alan wrote: > > > Are you ADD? > > > > > > --- On Sat, 1/7/12, sluggo54 at hotmail.com wrote: > > > > > > Oh, look at the cute kitty! Not usually, Alan. That sig is a response to a bunch of pussies (having nothing to do with females, in particular) on another list that manage to offend themselves by reading my usual sig. At times it has gotten downright hilarious. Now and then I try to point out, without being completely direct, that they are - well, pussies. There is another habitue of that list on the SEL, if we are lucky, we will draw out his input. I have been working on alternatives... I am accepting suggestions. I practice the ancient art of Klik Pao. Battle Plan (n) - a list of things that aren't going to happen if you are attacked. Ignorance is a long way from stupid, but left unchecked, can get there real fast. ?The things that will destroy America are peace at any price, prosperity at any cost, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.? Theodore Roosevelt ?Independence is declared; it must be maintained.? Sam Houston-3/2/1836 If I was in a hurry, I would have come yesterday. "If you can't get rid of the skeleton in your closet, you'd best teach it to dance." - George Bernard ShawNever let it be said that I left unsaid that which goes without saying. Sometimes I just sit and think. Sometimes I just sit. Great minds like a think. Thanks, Dave! Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jan 8 11:37:12 2012 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 14:37:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 94, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds like fun... On Sun, January 8, 2012 2:17 pm, Bruce Younger wrote: >> > Oh, look at the cute kitty! > > Not usually, Alan. That sig is a response to a bunch of pussies (having > nothing to do with females, in particular) on another list that manage to > offend themselves by reading my usual sig. At times it has gotten > downright hilarious. Now and then I try to point out, without being > completely direct, that they are - well, pussies. > There is another habitue of that list on the SEL, if we are lucky, we will > draw out his input. I have been working on alternatives... I am > accepting suggestions. From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Jan 9 21:09:33 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:09:33 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Saskatchewan Collector Needs Help Message-ID: <20120110050930.46D949863@smtp.wcoil.com> Hi All, I have been handed a letter sent to the Maytag Collectors Club by a Collector in Saskatchewan, Robert Hoglund needing help in finding parts for some engines like a KE Stover T Eaton 1.5 HP / Fairbanks Morse Eclipse / Macleod's 1 3/4 hp / Massey Harris Type 2 / This fellow does not use the internet and does not seem to like to use the phone. He is a letter writer. If you would like to start a correspondence with this fellow give me your snail mail address and I will forward it to the gentleman. Mark S. Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jan 11 17:26:31 2012 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 12:26:31 +1100 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> Message-ID: <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> Some time back early in 2011 I posted a request for anyone with info to contact me in my hunt for a pre 1900 engine. ?? remember ........ lol. Yes you guest it the response was overwhelming. Well thats not quite true I had emailed a couple of chaps of list with some possibilities of people to ring. I did make a few calls. Quite a learning experience when one asks about the real early stuff. Well after much contemplation and the moving out of some other hard ware I have found some space to include this engine to my collection. http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/582151034yacoJF My engine is an Atlas Oil engine made by E Humphries & Co Ld Engineers Pershore, number 153. It is currently the only known example. I is going to need some work for sure but I great project none the less. Picture supplied by Patrick Knight of engine 158 show the missing parts from my engine. How ever everyone who I have spoken to are at a loss to how the engine fires; it's correct ignition and pre heating set up. Documents read the engine is preheated to a point where the engine would run of the hot built heat. It has all the hormarks of a fuel system the same as a Hornsby Akroyd. Yet this engine has an ignitor (which I feel is not correct) that may possibly supposed to be there? Any ideas and thoughts are welcome. I am thinking perhaps some kind of hot tube assembly where it could be heated prior to starting. But the pic of engine 158 does not conclude this either. Maybe the front plate on mine may be non original? regards Russ From lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Jan 11 19:41:17 2012 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 22:41:17 -0500 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: That's going to be one beautiful hunk of iron when you get done! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY USA -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:27 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine Some time back early in 2011 I posted a request for anyone with info to contact me in my hunt for a pre 1900 engine. ?? remember ........ lol. Yes you guest it the response was overwhelming. Well thats not quite true I had emailed a couple of chaps of list with some possibilities of people to ring. I did make a few calls. Quite a learning experience when one asks about the real early stuff. Well after much contemplation and the moving out of some other hard ware I have found some space to include this engine to my collection. http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/582151034yacoJF My engine is an Atlas Oil engine made by E Humphries & Co Ld Engineers Pershore, number 153. It is currently the only known example. I is going to need some work for sure but I great project none the less. Picture supplied by Patrick Knight of engine 158 show the missing parts from my engine. How ever everyone who I have spoken to are at a loss to how the engine fires; it's correct ignition and pre heating set up. Documents read the engine is preheated to a point where the engine would run of the hot built heat. It has all the hormarks of a fuel system the same as a Hornsby Akroyd. Yet this engine has an ignitor (which I feel is not correct) that may possibly supposed to be there? Any ideas and thoughts are welcome. I am thinking perhaps some kind of hot tube assembly where it could be heated prior to starting. But the pic of engine 158 does not conclude this either. Maybe the front plate on mine may be non original? regards Russ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.454 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4133 - Release Date: 01/09/12 19:34:00 From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Jan 11 21:00:10 2012 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 00:00:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <67cb9230d724f2238619e358e78b662d.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> AWESOME Russ!! On Wed, January 11, 2012 8:26 pm, Russell wrote: > Some time back early in 2011 I posted a request for anyone with info to > contact me in my hunt for a pre 1900 engine. From gop4evr at lsol.net Wed Jan 11 23:07:54 2012 From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 01:07:54 -0600 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <24D0D3D6-B856-407D-827D-AB4AC6D5A0E4@lsol.net> I love the look of an old curved spoke flywheel. Very nice! Nels Johnsrud Manitowoc WI gop4evr at lsol.net On Jan 11, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Russell wrote: > Some time back early in 2011 I posted a request for anyone with info to contact me in my hunt for a pre 1900 engine. ?? remember ........ lol. Yes you guest it the response was overwhelming. > > Well thats not quite true I had emailed a couple of chaps of list with some possibilities of people to ring. I did make a few calls. Quite a learning experience when one asks about the real early stuff. > Well after much contemplation and the moving out of some other hard ware I have found some space to include this engine to my collection. > > http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/582151034yacoJF > > My engine is an Atlas Oil engine made by E Humphries & Co Ld Engineers Pershore, number 153. It is currently the only known example. I is going to need some work for sure but I great project none the less. Picture supplied by Patrick Knight of engine 158 show the missing parts from my engine. How ever everyone who I have spoken to are at a loss to how the engine fires; it's correct ignition and pre heating set up. Documents read the engine is preheated to a point where the engine would run of the hot built heat. It has all the hormarks of a fuel system the same as a Hornsby Akroyd. Yet this engine has an ignitor (which I feel is not correct) that may possibly supposed to be there? Any ideas and thoughts are welcome. I am thinking perhaps some kind of hot tube assembly where it could be heated prior to starting. But the pic of engine 158 does not conclude this either. Maybe the front plate on mine may be non original? > > regards Russ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Thu Jan 12 06:09:43 2012 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:09:43 -0500 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <03ECBD5B-8BBD-476E-ACAE-430C7E8D1F87@me.com> BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!! Dave On Jan 11, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Russell wrote: > Some time back early in 2011 I posted a request for anyone with info to contact me in my hunt for a pre 1900 engine. ?? remember ........ lol. Yes you guest it the response was overwhelming. > > Well thats not quite true I had emailed a couple of chaps of list with some possibilities of people to ring. I did make a few calls. Quite a learning experience when one asks about the real early stuff. > Well after much contemplation and the moving out of some other hard ware I have found some space to include this engine to my collection. > > http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/582151034yacoJF > > My engine is an Atlas Oil engine made by E Humphries & Co Ld Engineers Pershore, number 153. It is currently the only known example. I is going to need some work for sure but I great project none the less. Picture supplied by Patrick Knight of engine 158 show the missing parts from my engine. How ever everyone who I have spoken to are at a loss to how the engine fires; it's correct ignition and pre heating set up. Documents read the engine is preheated to a point where the engine would run of the hot built heat. It has all the hormarks of a fuel system the same as a Hornsby Akroyd. Yet this engine has an ignitor (which I feel is not correct) that may possibly supposed to be there? Any ideas and thoughts are welcome. I am thinking perhaps some kind of hot tube assembly where it could be heated prior to starting. But the pic of engine 158 does not conclude this either. Maybe the front plate on mine may be non original? > > regards Russ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Jan 12 07:31:41 2012 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 07:31:41 -0800 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <3F60C32E-83AE-410D-810A-E7FD6973FC5A@rustyiron.com> On Jan 11, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Russell wrote: > Some time back early in 2011 I posted a request for anyone with info to contact me in my hunt for a pre 1900 engine. ?? remember ........ lol. Yes you guest it the response was overwhelming. > > Well thats not quite true I had emailed a couple of chaps of list with some possibilities of people to ring. I did make a few calls. Quite a learning experience when one asks about the real early stuff. > Well after much contemplation and the moving out of some other hard ware I have found some space to include this engine to my collection. > > http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/582151034yacoJF > > My engine is an Atlas Oil engine made by E Humphries & Co Ld Engineers Pershore, number 153. It is currently the only known example. I is going to need some work for sure but I great project none the less. Picture supplied by Patrick Knight of engine 158 show the missing parts from my engine. How ever everyone who I have spoken to are at a loss to how the engine fires; it's correct ignition and pre heating set up. Documents read the engine is preheated to a point where the engine would run of the hot built heat. It has all the hormarks of a fuel system the same as a Hornsby Akroyd. Yet this engine has an ignitor (which I feel is not correct) that may possibly supposed to be there? Any ideas and thoughts are welcome. I am thinking perhaps some kind of hot tube assembly where it could be heated prior to starting. But the pic of engine 158 does not conclude this either. Maybe the front plate on mine may be non original? > > regards Russ Beautiful, Russ. She looks a bit Hornsbyesque, but I don?t understand the ignition, either. I?ll have to get out the books later. Adios, mate. From oldengin1 at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 09:13:01 2012 From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 12:13:01 -0500 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <03ECBD5B-8BBD-476E-ACAE-430C7E8D1F87@me.com> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com> <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> <03ECBD5B-8BBD-476E-ACAE-430C7E8D1F87@me.com> Message-ID: 2 rockers on her but only one flywheel. Super nice... On Jan 12, 2012 9:19 AM, "Dave Rotigel" wrote: BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!! Dave On Jan 11, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Russell wrote: > Some time back early in 2011 I posted a request for ... From steve_royster at hotmail.com Thu Jan 12 12:16:46 2012 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:16:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com>, <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Great find Russ, Keep us updated with progress pics! Steve > From: russell at ncable.com.au > Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 12:26:31 +1100 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine > > Some time back early in 2011 I posted a request for anyone with info to contact me in my hunt for a pre 1900 engine. ?? remember ........ lol. Yes you guest it the response was overwhelming. > > Well thats not quite true I had emailed a couple of chaps of list with some possibilities of people to ring. I did make a few calls. Quite a learning experience when one asks about the real early stuff. > Well after much contemplation and the moving out of some other hard ware I have found some space to include this engine to my collection. > > http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/582151034yacoJF > > My engine is an Atlas Oil engine made by E Humphries & Co Ld Engineers Pershore, number 153. It is currently the only known example. I is going to need some work for sure but I great project none the less. Picture supplied by Patrick Knight of engine 158 show the missing parts from my engine. How ever everyone who I have spoken to are at a loss to how the engine fires; it's correct ignition and pre heating set up. Documents read the engine is preheated to a point where the engine would run of the hot built heat. It has all the hormarks of a fuel system the same as a Hornsby Akroyd. Yet this engine has an ignitor (which I feel is not correct) that may possibly supposed to be there? Any ideas and thoughts are welcome. I am thinking perhaps some kind of hot tube assembly where it could be heated prior to starting. But the pic of engine 158 does not conclude this either. Maybe the front plate on mine may be non original? > > regards Russ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Thu Jan 12 15:18:12 2012 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 10:18:12 +1100 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com>, <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <1BB5A8DC-3B6E-450A-BA65-A19F6AA4388E@ncable.com.au> Thanks guys, It will be a slow process with this one. Plenty of research and a few patterns made etc. Should be fun though. Russ PS: to the other bad oyster, my e-mails still wont get to you? On 13/01/2012, at 7:16 AM, Steve Royster wrote: > > Great find Russ, Keep us updated with progress pics! Steve > > From russell at ncable.com.au Thu Jan 12 16:12:26 2012 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:12:26 +1100 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <1BB5A8DC-3B6E-450A-BA65-A19F6AA4388E@ncable.com.au> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com>, <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> <1BB5A8DC-3B6E-450A-BA65-A19F6AA4388E@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <9E7D1C1D-58A3-4F10-A6C2-0B0A07B58125@ncable.com.au> I have added a few pictures of the ignitor; maybe some one could identify it ? Would be interesting and would help eliminate it from the ignition system? Russ On 13/01/2012, at 10:18 AM, Russell wrote: > Thanks guys, It will be a slow process with this one. Plenty of research and a few patterns made etc. Should be fun though. > Russ > > PS: to the other bad oyster, my e-mails still wont get to you? > > > On 13/01/2012, at 7:16 AM, Steve Royster wrote: > >> >> Great find Russ, Keep us updated with progress pics! Steve >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 16:19:19 2012 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:19:19 +1100 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Great looking engine Russel. Will we see it at the Mudgee National in 2013? Patrick On 12/1/12 12:26 PM, "Russell" wrote: > Some time back early in 2011 I posted a request for anyone with info to > contact me in my hunt for a pre 1900 engine. ?? remember ........ lol. Yes you > guest it the response was overwhelming. > > Well thats not quite true I had emailed a couple of chaps of list with some > possibilities of people to ring. I did make a few calls. Quite a learning > experience when one asks about the real early stuff. > Well after much contemplation and the moving out of some other hard ware I > have found some space to include this engine to my collection. > > http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/582151034yacoJF > > My engine is an Atlas Oil engine made by E Humphries & Co Ld Engineers > Pershore, number 153. It is currently the only known example. I is going to > need some work for sure but I great project none the less. Picture supplied by > Patrick Knight of engine 158 show the missing parts from my engine. How ever > everyone who I have spoken to are at a loss to how the engine fires; it's > correct ignition and pre heating set up. Documents read the engine is > preheated to a point where the engine would run of the hot built heat. It has > all the hormarks of a fuel system the same as a Hornsby Akroyd. Yet this > engine has an ignitor (which I feel is not correct) that may possibly supposed > to be there? Any ideas and thoughts are welcome. I am thinking perhaps some > kind of hot tube assembly where it could be heated prior to starting. But the > pic of engine 158 does not conclude this either. Maybe the front plate on mine > may be non original? > > regards Russ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu Jan 12 16:44:36 2012 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:44:36 +1100 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <9E7D1C1D-58A3-4F10-A6C2-0B0A07B58125@ncable.com.au> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com>, <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au><1BB5A8DC-3B6E-450A-BA65-A19F6AA4388E@ncable.com.au> <9E7D1C1D-58A3-4F10-A6C2-0B0A07B58125@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Well done mate, In stead of an igniter you should be able to rig up a portable gas burner and one of your dads holders to heat her up, seen it done somewhere before, Heh, Heh, Heh ( a big evil laugh) Kerry >I have added a few pictures of the ignitor; maybe some one could identify >it ? Would be interesting and would help eliminate it from the ignition >system? Russ > From christison at coastalnet.com Thu Jan 12 18:39:24 2012 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 21:39:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] pre 1900 engine In-Reply-To: <9E7D1C1D-58A3-4F10-A6C2-0B0A07B58125@ncable.com.au> References: <4F043B95.6070208@frontier.com>, <3791BB61-A45A-40AC-8204-96CF4A3B6F64@ncable.com.au> <1BB5A8DC-3B6E-450A-BA65-A19F6AA4388E@ncable.com.au> <9E7D1C1D-58A3-4F10-A6C2-0B0A07B58125@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <4F0F995C.7030409@coastalnet.com> Russell, Here are some links to pages in google books that mention the Atlas. http://books.google.com/books?id=mepQAAAAYAAJ&dq=atlas%20oil%20engine&pg=PA797#v=onepage&q&f=false http://books.google.com/books?id=t0rOAAAAMAAJ&dq=atlas%20oil%20engine&pg=PA168#v=onepage&q=atlas%20oil%20engine&f=false http://books.google.com/books?id=30xDAAAAIAAJ&dq=atlas%20oil%20engine%20humphries&pg=PA357#v=onepage&q=atlas%20oil%20engine%20humphries&f=false http://books.google.com/books?id=UdBFAAAAYAAJ&dq=atlas%20oil%20engine%20humphries&pg=PA457#v=onepage&q=atlas%20oil%20engine%20humphries&f=false Ken On 1/12/2012 7:12 PM, Russell wrote: > I have added a few pictures of the ignitor; maybe some one could identify it ? Would be interesting and would help eliminate it from the ignition system? Russ > > > On 13/01/2012, at 10:18 AM, Russell wrote: > >> Thanks guys, It will be a slow process with this one. Plenty of research and a few patterns made etc. Should be fun though. >> Russ >> >> PS: to the other bad oyster, my e-mails still wont get to you? >> >> >> On 13/01/2012, at 7:16 AM, Steve Royster wrote: >> >>> Great find Russ, Keep us updated with progress pics! Steve >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Jan 13 11:10:25 2012 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:10:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] February / March GEM - Portland Show Report Message-ID: <6721c624bf61daca7348e0b99e506b94.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> Steve Webre's 12 hp Reid and Larry Anger's 4-5 hp Lorenz are looking good in the article! From Germoamer at aol.com Fri Jan 13 11:41:26 2012 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:41:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] February / March GEM - Portland Show Report Message-ID: <174d1.1a91b67e.3c41e2e6@aol.com> In a message dated 1/13/2012 2:20:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, fero_ah at city-net.com writes: Steve Webre's 12 hp Reid and Larry Anger's 4-5 hp Lorenz are looking good in the article! Arnie, Speaking of that issue of GEM, that is a neat propane ( I assume) convers ion on the 6 hp M on the front page! A nicely restored engine too. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at aol.com From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Jan 14 17:00:58 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:00:58 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art Message-ID: <20120115010058.9B2FC98AB@smtp.wcoil.com> Hi All, Been meaning to share this for a while. Sorry the picture quality is not better, took them with my cell phone. This is my idea of Modern Art. Or American Folk Art. This is my father inlaw's tool box that he built back in the 60s and used all his working career. It was decorated at a whim with stickers and emblems that he come across that he liked. To me this is something that belongs in a museum. Or kept cherished by the family. I never asked him if he went by a set of plans. Call me stupid but I would not trade it for the biggest best Snap-On they sell. Mark S. Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Jan 14 19:01:17 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:01:17 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: <20120115010058.9B2FC98AB@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20120115010058.9B2FC98AB@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <20120115030118.D953E9887@smtp.wcoil.com> Not sure where the pic went will try again. Mark At 08:00 PM 1/14/2012, you wrote: >Hi All, Been meaning to share this for a while. Sorry the picture >quality is not better, took them with my cell phone. >This is my idea of Modern Art. Or American Folk Art. This is my >father inlaw's tool box that he built back in the 60s and used all >his working career. It was decorated at a whim with stickers and >emblems that he come across that he liked. To me this is something >that belongs in a museum. Or kept cherished by the family. I never >asked him if he went by a set of plans. Call me stupid but I would >not trade it for the biggest best Snap-On they sell. > >Mark S. > > > > >Mark Shulaw >454 County Road 33 >Bluffton, OH. 45817 >USA > >Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home > >VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Jan 14 19:05:48 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:05:48 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: Tool Box My Type Of American Folk Art Message-ID: <20120115030548.7FE75989E@smtp.wcoil.com> Shortcut to: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\qualcomm\eudora\attach\0619111755a1.jpg Shortcut to: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\qualcomm\eudora\attach\0619111755.jpg Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Jan 14 19:17:53 2012 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:17:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: <20120115030118.D953E9887@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Mark, if you're trying to attach a photo SEL won't accept attachments. You'd have to post the photo on a site somewhere and send the link. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark Shulaw Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:01 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art Not sure where the pic went will try again. Mark At 08:00 PM 1/14/2012, you wrote: >Hi All, Been meaning to share this for a while. Sorry the picture >quality is not better, took them with my cell phone. >This is my idea of Modern Art. Or American Folk Art. This is my >father inlaw's tool box that he built back in the 60s and used all >his working career. It was decorated at a whim with stickers and >emblems that he come across that he liked. To me this is something >that belongs in a museum. Or kept cherished by the family. I never >asked him if he went by a set of plans. Call me stupid but I would >not trade it for the biggest best Snap-On they sell. > >Mark S. > > > > >Mark Shulaw >454 County Road 33 >Bluffton, OH. 45817 >USA > >Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home > >VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.454 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4137 - Release Date: 01/11/12 19:34:00 From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Jan 14 19:37:03 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:37:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art Message-ID: <20120115033703.2BB0E98A2@smtp.wcoil.com> Ok lets try this again, Mark S. Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Jan 14 19:39:39 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:39:39 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: References: <20120115030118.D953E9887@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <20120115033939.988C098A5@smtp.wcoil.com> Just did that thanks. Marek At 10:17 PM 1/14/2012, you wrote: >Mark, if you're trying to attach a photo SEL won't accept attachments. >You'd have to post the photo on a site somewhere and send the link. > >Tommy Turner >Magnolia, KY > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark >Shulaw >Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:01 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art > > >Not sure where the pic went will try again. Mark > > >At 08:00 PM 1/14/2012, you wrote: > > >Hi All, Been meaning to share this for a while. Sorry the picture > >quality is not better, took them with my cell phone. > >This is my idea of Modern Art. Or American Folk Art. This is my > >father inlaw's tool box that he built back in the 60s and used all > >his working career. It was decorated at a whim with stickers and > >emblems that he come across that he liked. To me this is something > >that belongs in a museum. Or kept cherished by the family. I never > >asked him if he went by a set of plans. Call me stupid but I would > >not trade it for the biggest best Snap-On they sell. > > > >Mark S. > > > > > > > > > >Mark Shulaw > >454 County Road 33 > >Bluffton, OH. 45817 > >USA > > > >Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home > > > >VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >Mark Shulaw >454 County Road 33 >Bluffton, OH. 45817 >USA > >Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home >Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere >and Hercules Engines. >Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. >VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.454 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4137 - Release Date: 01/11/12 >19:34:00 > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Jan 14 19:42:53 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:42:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art Message-ID: <20120115034253.5170898A5@smtp.wcoil.com> I will get this right or else. Ok lets try this again, Mark S. Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Jan 14 20:28:36 2012 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 23:28:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: <20120115033703.2BB0E98A2@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Very neat tool box Mark. It certainly has a lot of character and you can tell the person who owned it was a bit of a character as well. I agree, its better than a Snap On box any day! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark Shulaw Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:37 PM To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org Cc: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art Ok lets try this again, Mark S. Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.454 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4137 - Release Date: 01/11/12 19:34:00 From Germoamer at aol.com Sun Jan 15 06:22:25 2012 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 09:22:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art Message-ID: In a message dated 1/14/2012 8:09:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, frappi at wcoil.com writes: Call me stupid but I would not trade it for the biggest best Snap-On they sell. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------ Not stupid! Beautiful family treasure! Just hope the next care taker has as much love for it as you do! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at aol.com From Germoamer at aol.com Sun Jan 15 06:35:53 2012 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 09:35:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art Message-ID: In a message dated 1/14/2012 8:09:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, frappi at wcoil.com writes: This is my idea of Modern Art. Or American Folk Art. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- Mark, Who else but us junk collectors treasure our "stuff"? Photo of a sign hanging in my room that was removed from an old water mill that was in a very dilapidated condition. _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/Booker%20mill.jpg _ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/Booker%20mill.jpg) Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at aol.com From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jan 15 06:57:58 2012 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 09:57:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <314053beb0ad462cf7f264a7887fb054.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> Mark, I totally agree with Tom. Family history items like this are priceless! It's good to know that it's in good hands. See ya, Arnie On Sun, January 15, 2012 9:22 am, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/14/2012 8:09:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > frappi at wcoil.com writes: > > Call me stupid but I would > not trade it for the biggest best Snap-On they sell. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Not stupid! Beautiful family treasure! Just hope the next care taker > has as much love for it as you do! > Tom Schmutz From frappi at wcoil.com Sun Jan 15 07:44:15 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:44:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: References: <20120115033703.2BB0E98A2@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <20120115154416.0B9AC9949@smtp.wcoil.com> Oh Bill was Quite the character. He had his own Sohio Station in the 70s then went to work for the City of Akron in Road Vehicle Maintenance and worked up to Foreman of the Department. Then in the early 2000s transferred to Police and Emergency Vehicles Maintenance Serving as foreman there till retirement. Reason he retired was a good story too. Not to be told here. His work history is rather mundane. He and his cousin bought an airplane and repaired it to fly. Mind you neither one was a pilot. The closest either one was to pilot was Bill. He was Crew Chief of a Huey Gun Ship. LOL. And that was not till well after this happened! Anyways he and his cousin got the plane operational and fueled it and yep took her up. Neither one of them had the nerve to land it so they flew into PA. Kept going till the fuel run out crash landed in a pasture abandoned the plane and hitch hiked back to Ohio. Never went back for it. That was in the early 60s. And the stories continued for many years. Mark At 11:28 PM 1/14/2012, you wrote: >Very neat tool box Mark. It certainly has a lot of character and you >can tell the person who owned it was a bit of a character as well. I >agree, its better than a Snap On box any day! > >Tommy Turner >Magnolia, KY > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark >Shulaw >Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:37 PM >To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org >Cc: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art > > > >Ok lets try this again, Mark S. > > > > > > > > > >Mark Shulaw >454 County Road 33 >Bluffton, OH. 45817 >USA > >Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home > >VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.454 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4137 - Release Date: 01/11/12 >19:34:00 > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Sun Jan 15 07:45:44 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:45:44 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120115154544.94A8D960A@smtp.wcoil.com> Hand Painted signs on wood. Thats a great Sign!! Mark At 09:35 AM 1/15/2012, you wrote: > >In a message dated 1/14/2012 8:09:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >frappi at wcoil.com writes: > >This is my idea of Modern Art. Or American Folk Art. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >----------------------------------------------- > >Mark, > >Who else but us junk collectors treasure our "stuff"? > >Photo of a sign hanging in my room that was removed from an old water mill >that was in a very dilapidated condition. > > > > >_http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/Booker%20mill.jpg > >_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/Booker%20mill.jpg) > > > > >Tom Schmutz >Concord, Va. >germoamer at aol.com >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Sun Jan 15 07:47:49 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:47:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: <314053beb0ad462cf7f264a7887fb054.squirrel@mail.realprodata .com> References: <314053beb0ad462cf7f264a7887fb054.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: <20120115154757.8FB739949@smtp.wcoil.com> Family history not withstanding this is a forum where something like this is appreciated no matter who made it. Mark At 09:57 AM 1/15/2012, you wrote: >Mark, > >I totally agree with Tom. Family history items like this are priceless! >It's good to know that it's in good hands. > >See ya, Arnie > >On Sun, January 15, 2012 9:22 am, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/14/2012 8:09:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > frappi at wcoil.com writes: > > > > Call me stupid but I would > > not trade it for the biggest best Snap-On they sell. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Not stupid! Beautiful family treasure! Just hope the next care taker > > has as much love for it as you do! > > Tom Schmutz > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From dtallman at accnorwalk.com Sun Jan 15 08:13:46 2012 From: dtallman at accnorwalk.com (Doug Tallman) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 11:13:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F12FB3A.4010500@accnorwalk.com> I'd say the guy that has it now is a bit of a character himself!! :-) Doug T Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Very neat tool box Mark. It certainly has a lot of character and you > can tell the person who owned it was a bit of a character as well. I > agree, its better than a Snap On box any day! > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > From frappi at wcoil.com Sun Jan 15 08:42:11 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 11:42:11 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: <4F12FB3A.4010500@accnorwalk.com> References: <4F12FB3A.4010500@accnorwalk.com> Message-ID: <20120115164211.081A498BB@smtp.wcoil.com> No not mine. :-( I wish. Its still setting in Bills Garage. Probably will go to his boy which is where it belongs as long as he appreciates it. And he seems to appreciate it. Mark At 11:13 AM 1/15/2012, you wrote: >I'd say the guy that has it now is a bit of a character himself!! :-) Doug T > > > >Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > > Very neat tool box Mark. It certainly has a lot of character and you > > can tell the person who owned it was a bit of a character as well. I > > agree, its better than a Snap On box any day! > > > > Tommy Turner > > Magnolia, KY > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jan 15 08:51:06 2012 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 11:51:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <374DCD6D209248B68C26DD0D069897C1@RoysterPC> I LIKE! -----Original Message----- From: Germoamer at aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:35 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: TOOL BOX My Type Of American Folk Art In a message dated 1/14/2012 8:09:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, frappi at wcoil.com writes: This is my idea of Modern Art. Or American Folk Art. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- Mark, Who else but us junk collectors treasure our "stuff"? Photo of a sign hanging in my room that was removed from an old water mill that was in a very dilapidated condition. _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/Booker%20mill.jpg _ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/Booker%20mill.jpg) Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at aol.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Sun Jan 15 18:19:01 2012 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:19:01 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran In-Reply-To: <374DCD6D209248B68C26DD0D069897C1@RoysterPC> References: , <374DCD6D209248B68C26DD0D069897C1@RoysterPC> Message-ID: Check out my 6 HP Brown & Cochran now that I've stripped down to original paint and done some polishing and some tuning Tom Winland Ohio http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Brown.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7eUi5roND4 From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Jan 15 18:42:25 2012 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:42:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey Tom, it sure looks better than it did painted red! Nice hunk of iron that I need to trade you out of. Tommy Turner -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tom Winland Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:19 PM To: SEL list Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran Check out my 6 HP Brown & Cochran now that I've stripped down to original paint and done some polishing and some tuning Tom Winland Ohio http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Brown.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7eUi5roND4 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jan 15 18:46:46 2012 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:46:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran In-Reply-To: References: , <374DCD6D209248B68C26DD0D069897C1@RoysterPC> Message-ID: <980232E78A5F4AD99CA7817722BB730E@RoysterPC> Tom: I have coveted many things in my life, and now added another to the list! Drop dead gorgeous! Love that engine! Mike -----Original Message----- From: Tom Winland Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:19 PM To: SEL list Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran Check out my 6 HP Brown & Cochran now that I've stripped down to original paint and done some polishing and some tuning Tom Winland Ohio http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Brown.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7eUi5roND4 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From curt at rustyiron.com Sun Jan 15 18:49:08 2012 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:49:08 -0800 Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran In-Reply-To: References: , <374DCD6D209248B68C26DD0D069897C1@RoysterPC> Message-ID: Tom, That's a GORGEOUS engine! Very very nice. Ohio really cranked out some beautiful engines! Curt H Bessemer City, NC > > > Check out my 6 HP Brown & Cochran now that I've stripped down to original > paint and done some polishing and some tuning > > Tom Winland > Ohio > > http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Brown.html > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7eUi5roND4 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Sun Jan 15 18:52:02 2012 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:52:02 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: What ya got that would make me let go of the Brown, I really like it alot. > From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:42:25 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran > > Hey Tom, it sure looks better than it did painted red! Nice hunk of iron > that I need to trade you out of. > > Tommy Turner > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tom Winland > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:19 PM > To: SEL list > Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran > > > > Check out my 6 HP Brown & Cochran now that I've stripped down to original > paint and done some polishing and some tuning > > Tom Winland > Ohio > > http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Brown.html > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7eUi5roND4 > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From tchristoff at earthlink.net Sun Jan 15 19:04:24 2012 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:04:24 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran Message-ID: <30337257.1326683064853.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net> That is super nice Tom. Be careful though, now that a Royster has seen the pictures and said "love that engine" he's going to try to aquire it in ways that are just not right. Tim Christoff PS. I was held hostage between both the Royster boys in the front of a truck being worked over for an hour. I managed to hold them off but it wasn't easy. -----Original Message----- >From: Mike Royster >Sent: Jan 15, 2012 8:46 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran > >Tom: > > I have coveted many things in my life, and now added another to the list! >Drop dead gorgeous! Love that engine! > >Mike > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tom Winland >Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:19 PM >To: SEL list >Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran > > > >Check out my 6 HP Brown & Cochran now that I've stripped down to original >paint and done some polishing and some tuning > >Tom Winland >Ohio > >http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Brown.html > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7eUi5roND4 >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Jan 15 19:18:33 2012 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:18:33 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <82971310A8E74C5D9F3216FE548DAAB7@D2JYVHJ1> What ya got that would make me let go of the Brown, I really like it alot. Hey Tom, I know what that means.....big $$$$. I remember Paul Cox having a person ask about an engine he had. Paul said "oh, I really like that engine and its not for sale.......and if it was it would be high". The guy left Paul's place about 2 hours later with it in the back of his truck and his billfold a lot smaller. Oh, you never know Tom, there may be something I have that you and I can do some swappin' on. Tommy Turner From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Jan 15 19:20:45 2012 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:20:45 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran In-Reply-To: <30337257.1326683064853.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: You got that right Tim. Every time they've rolled into my place they've left with a nice hunk of iron in the back of their truck. I think last time I gave it to them to get it out of my way. They can be very persuasive! Tommy Turner -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tim Christoff Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:04 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran That is super nice Tom. Be careful though, now that a Royster has seen the pictures and said "love that engine" he's going to try to aquire it in ways that are just not right. Tim Christoff PS. I was held hostage between both the Royster boys in the front of a truck being worked over for an hour. I managed to hold them off but it wasn't easy. From curt at rustyiron.com Sun Jan 15 19:37:36 2012 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:37:36 -0800 Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran In-Reply-To: <30337257.1326683064853.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <30337257.1326683064853.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <7076b2a68dd26d70f8f48dda165241a1.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> Tim, You got that right! Whenever I put new padlocks on my engine shed, I always ask the locksmith if they are "Roysterproof". Enginefolk in these parts have gotten word of these shenanigans and everyone has big ol padlocks on their engine sheds now. Lately the Roysters have resorted to a new scheme. Since most of the nice engines are already in Royster possession anyway, they've resorted to "midnight acquisitions" of each other's stuff. Mike will load up Steve's stuff when Steve is off closing a deal on another McMansion, and when Mike is out of town doing a remediation job, Steve goes to Mike's and loads up his stuff and helps himself to some of Mike's too. It's really blurred the line knowing which is the good or bad Royster now. Curt H Bessemer City, NC > That is super nice Tom. Be careful though, now that a Royster has seen > the pictures and said "love that engine" he's going to try to aquire it in > ways that are just not right. > > Tim Christoff > > PS. I was held hostage between both the Royster boys in the front of a > truck being worked over for an hour. I managed to hold them off but it > wasn't easy. > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Mike Royster >>Sent: Jan 15, 2012 8:46 PM >>To: The SEL email discussion list >>Subject: Re: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran >> >>Tom: >> >> I have coveted many things in my life, and now added another to the >> list! >>Drop dead gorgeous! Love that engine! >> >>Mike >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Tom Winland >>Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:19 PM >>To: SEL list >>Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran >> >> >> >>Check out my 6 HP Brown & Cochran now that I've stripped down to original >>paint and done some polishing and some tuning >> >>Tom Winland >>Ohio >> >>http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Brown.html >> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7eUi5roND4 >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Tim Christoff > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jan 15 19:43:09 2012 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:43:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran In-Reply-To: <30337257.1326683064853.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <30337257.1326683064853.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Now Tim, you know we were just helping you change that tire on your truck, and you were so grateful you sold us that New Way twin for a bargain. You are the appreciative type! MR -----Original Message----- From: Tim Christoff Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:04 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran That is super nice Tom. Be careful though, now that a Royster has seen the pictures and said "love that engine" he's going to try to aquire it in ways that are just not right. Tim Christoff PS. I was held hostage between both the Royster boys in the front of a truck being worked over for an hour. I managed to hold them off but it wasn't easy. -----Original Message----- >From: Mike Royster >Sent: Jan 15, 2012 8:46 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran > >Tom: > > I have coveted many things in my life, and now added another to the list! >Drop dead gorgeous! Love that engine! > >Mike > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tom Winland >Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:19 PM >To: SEL list >Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran > > > >Check out my 6 HP Brown & Cochran now that I've stripped down to original >paint and done some polishing and some tuning > >Tom Winland >Ohio > >http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Brown.html > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7eUi5roND4 >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jan 15 19:44:29 2012 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:44:29 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6FE295532B204274BDE1AD50E9BB1E57@RoysterPC> Careful Tommy, you know how light headed you get when you drink those Diet Pepsis my brother makes, er gives to you! MR -----Original Message----- From: Judge Tommy Turner Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:20 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: Re: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran You got that right Tim. Every time they've rolled into my place they've left with a nice hunk of iron in the back of their truck. I think last time I gave it to them to get it out of my way. They can be very persuasive! Tommy Turner -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tim Christoff Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:04 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] 6 HP Brown & Cochran That is super nice Tom. Be careful though, now that a Royster has seen the pictures and said "love that engine" he's going to try to aquire it in ways that are just not right. Tim Christoff PS. I was held hostage between both the Royster boys in the front of a truck being worked over for an hour. I managed to hold them off but it wasn't easy. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Mon Jan 16 03:16:20 2012 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 22:16:20 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Stolen Australian Vinco marine engine In-Reply-To: <7076b2a68dd26d70f8f48dda165241a1.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> References: <30337257.1326683064853.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <7076b2a68dd26d70f8f48dda165241a1.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> Message-ID: <11C54FE5298B4FAF8D3FAD87D7BA4173@KerryPC> In 2006 a Vinco was stolen from an exhibitor at the Canberra Rally (not at the rally itself) see http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Vinco.html Does any one remember the owner who had a few marine engines and a boat on display as I seem to have lost the details and may have some info on the engine. Please send any name to me direct not the list Thanks for any help Kerry Lithgow NSW Oz From Germoamer at aol.com Tue Jan 17 16:19:47 2012 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:19:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] International M help Message-ID: <94ae5.237ac0e.3c476a23@aol.com> I think I must be headed to the old folks home. Mind does not remember stuff like it used to. Friend called and needed help with a 1 1/2 hp M and I cannot remember how everything worked. I have two 6 hp's and do not feel like tearing one apart to get his answer. All the books I have do not help me. Here is the question. The fuel pump has a check ball on the discharge side to carb.This is located in the "Y" part of the pump. Where is the check ball on the incoming side of the pump? Is it down in the fuel tank. Its got to have one somewhere or else the fuel would be pushed back to the tank rather than carb. Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at aol.com From frappi at wcoil.com Tue Jan 17 16:51:03 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:51:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] International M help In-Reply-To: <94ae5.237ac0e.3c476a23@aol.com> References: <94ae5.237ac0e.3c476a23@aol.com> Message-ID: <20120118005101.E46839926@smtp.wcoil.com> The ones I worked on have two check valves at the pump. Both valves were at the inlet and outlet of the pump. Both were the early style cast iron fuel pump. The check valve assembly threaded into the pump. Mark At 07:19 PM 1/17/2012, you wrote: >I think I must be headed to the old folks home. Mind does not remember >stuff like it used to. Friend called and needed help with a 1 >1/2 hp M and I >cannot remember how everything worked. I have two 6 hp's and do not feel >like tearing one apart to get his answer. All the books I have do not help >me. Here is the question. > >The fuel pump has a check ball on the discharge side to carb.This is >located in the "Y" part of the pump. Where is the check ball on >the incoming >side of the pump? Is it down in the fuel tank. Its got to have one >somewhere or else the fuel would be pushed back to the tank rather than carb. > >Thanks, > >Tom Schmutz >Concord, Va. >germoamer at aol.com >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From rotigel at me.com Fri Jan 20 17:03:08 2012 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:03:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] From The Seat Of A Tractor Message-ID: > Life from the seat of a tractor. An old Farmer's Words of Wisdom we could all live by....... > > > > ?Your fences need to be horse-high, pig-tight and bull-strong.? > > > ?Keep skunks and bankers at a distance.? > > > ?Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.? > > > ?A bumble bee is considerably faster than a John Deere tractor.? > > > ?Words that soak into your ears are whispered?....not yelled.? > > > ?Meanness don't just happen overnight.? > > > ?Forgive your enemies; it messes up their heads.? > > > ?Do not corner something that you know is meaner than you.? > > > ?It don't take a very big person to carry a grudge.? > > > ?You cannot unsay a cruel word.? > > > ?Every path has a few puddles.? > > > ?When you wallow with pigs, expect to get dirty.? > > > ?The best sermons are lived, not preached.? > > > ?Most of the stuff people worry about, ain't never gonna happen anyway.? > > > ?Don't judge folks by their relatives. > > > ?Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer.? > > > ?Live a good and honorable life, then when you get older and think back, you'll enjoy it a second time.? > > > ?Don't interfere with somethin' that ain't bothering you none.? > > > ?Timin' has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.? > > > ?If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop diggin'.? > > > ?Sometimes you get, and sometimes you get got. > > > ?The biggest troublemaker you'll probably ever have to deal with, watches you from the mirror every mornin'.? > > > ?Always drink upstream from the herd.? > > > ?Good judgment comes from experience, and a lotta that comes from bad judgment.? > > > ?Lettin' the cat outta the bag is a whole lot easier than puttin' it back in.? > > > ?If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' somebody else's dog around.? > > > ?Live simply, love generously, care deeply, > Speak kindly, and leave the rest to God.? > ?Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.? > > > > From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Jan 20 20:16:10 2012 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:16:10 +1100 Subject: [SEL] From The Seat Of A Tractor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1EFFD207-9B9C-4C13-A891-8055C7EFFD45@ncable.com.au> Dave what are you going on the seat of a tractor! On 21/01/2012, at 12:03 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote: >> Life from the seat of a tractor. An old Farmer's Words of Wisdom we could all live by....... >> >> >> >> ?Your fences need to be horse-high, pig-tight and bull-strong.? >> >> >> ?Keep skunks and bankers at a distance.? >> >> >> ?Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.? >> >> >> ?A bumble bee is considerably faster than a John Deere tractor.? >> >> >> ?Words that soak into your ears are whispered?....not yelled.? >> >> >> ?Meanness don't just happen overnight.? >> >> >> ?Forgive your enemies; it messes up their heads.? >> >> >> ?Do not corner something that you know is meaner than you.? >> >> >> ?It don't take a very big person to carry a grudge.? >> >> >> ?You cannot unsay a cruel word.? >> >> >> ?Every path has a few puddles.? >> >> >> ?When you wallow with pigs, expect to get dirty.? >> >> >> ?The best sermons are lived, not preached.? >> >> >> ?Most of the stuff people worry about, ain't never gonna happen anyway.? >> >> >> ?Don't judge folks by their relatives. >> >> >> ?Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer.? >> >> >> ?Live a good and honorable life, then when you get older and think back, you'll enjoy it a second time.? >> >> >> ?Don't interfere with somethin' that ain't bothering you none.? >> >> >> ?Timin' has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.? >> >> >> ?If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop diggin'.? >> >> >> ?Sometimes you get, and sometimes you get got. >> >> >> ?The biggest troublemaker you'll probably ever have to deal with, watches you from the mirror every mornin'.? >> >> >> ?Always drink upstream from the herd.? >> >> >> ?Good judgment comes from experience, and a lotta that comes from bad judgment.? >> >> >> ?Lettin' the cat outta the bag is a whole lot easier than puttin' it back in.? >> >> >> ?If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' somebody else's dog around.? >> >> >> ?Live simply, love generously, care deeply, >> Speak kindly, and leave the rest to God.? >> ?Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.? >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bboyce at swat.coop Tue Jan 24 08:59:32 2012 From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:59:32 -0600 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed Message-ID: <51B02F83E5B149C0A7B673A93FB9C850@billPC> i need to replace the plunger in fuel pump on the 22 hp stover due to wear. the plunger is of brass material and travels in a cast iron bore of the pump body,,,,,,,, in checking some catalogues i found several different kinds of brass alloy material,,,,, maybe one of you experts could suggest which type of brass would work best in this application,,,,,, ? thanks in advance for any help, bill boyce lost prairie, arkansas From wackyvorlon at gmail.com Tue Jan 24 09:31:30 2012 From: wackyvorlon at gmail.com (Paul Anderson) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 12:31:30 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed In-Reply-To: <51B02F83E5B149C0A7B673A93FB9C850@billPC> References: <51B02F83E5B149C0A7B673A93FB9C850@billPC> Message-ID: I'd probably go for a phosphor bronze. More durable under abrasion. I think the alloy is 330? Sent from my iPad On 2012-01-24, at 11:59 AM, "bill boyce" wrote: > i need to replace the plunger in fuel pump on the 22 hp stover due to wear. the plunger is of brass material and > travels in a cast iron bore of the pump body,,,,,,,, in checking some catalogues i found several different kinds of > brass alloy material,,,,, maybe one of you experts could suggest which type of brass would work best in this > application,,,,,, ? > thanks in advance for any help, > bill boyce > lost prairie, arkansas > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bakermonitor1932 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 24 11:38:02 2012 From: bakermonitor1932 at hotmail.com (Devin Holland) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 14:38:02 -0500 Subject: [SEL] re. 22hp stover fuel pump In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you a pice of brass that is the right size to make one thats what you should use as its not going to see enough wear for it to matter as this engine is no longer going to be doing a full days work every day. Its also worth mentioning that the brass they used was probably not as refined as what can be found today. Devin H > Today's Topics: > > 1. 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed (bill boyce) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:59:32 -0600 > From: "bill boyce" > Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Message-ID: <51B02F83E5B149C0A7B673A93FB9C850 at billPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > i need to replace the plunger in fuel pump on the 22 hp stover due to wear. the plunger is of brass material and > travels in a cast iron bore of the pump body,,,,,,,, in checking some catalogues i found several different kinds of > brass alloy material,,,,, maybe one of you experts could suggest which type of brass would work best in this > application,,,,,, ? > thanks in advance for any help, > bill boyce > lost prairie, arkansas > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > End of SEL Digest, Vol 94, Issue 17 > *********************************** From cgandree at mchsi.com Wed Jan 25 05:00:17 2012 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 07:00:17 -0600 (CST) Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed In-Reply-To: <51B02F83E5B149C0A7B673A93FB9C850@billPC> Message-ID: <467180199.16692701327496417404.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Bill, My thoughts are that the orginal plunger was made of bronze not brass as after restoring one of my large Stovers and helping several other collectors on theirs they were all bronze. Its possible that sometime ago some one replaced the plunger with brass stock as he didn't have any bronze. Not sure if Joe Mauer is tuning in to our list anymore but since he is the custody for Stover records and has several large hp Stovers you might contact him to confirm. regards, Curt Andree ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill boyce" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:59:32 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed i need to replace the plunger in fuel pump on the 22 hp stover due to wear. the plunger is of brass material and travels in a cast iron bore of the pump body,,,,,,,, in checking some catalogues i found several different kinds of brass alloy material,,,,, maybe one of you experts could suggest which type of brass would work best in this application,,,,,, ? thanks in advance for any help, bill boyce lost prairie, arkansas _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Jan 25 14:02:19 2012 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:02:19 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Ken Meeks Email Address In-Reply-To: <374DCD6D209248B68C26DD0D069897C1@RoysterPC> References: <374DCD6D209248B68C26DD0D069897C1@RoysterPC> Message-ID: <1E91076C-BFE3-41B5-A21C-5248D6AC3C4F@scrtc.com> Does anyone have Ken Meeks email address? Thanks. Tommy Turnet From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Wed Jan 25 14:37:54 2012 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:37:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Ken Meeks Email Address Message-ID: Tommy if you look through the adds on Harry's he did have some items listed could get him that way. KK In a message dated 1/25/2012 5:06:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: Does anyone have Ken Meeks email address? Thanks. Tommy Turnet _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Jan 25 16:38:24 2012 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:38:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Ken Meeks Email Address In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Kevin. Before I posted the not on the SEL I glanced over some ads and Harry's sponsor page but didn't see his name. I'll give it a closer look. I had a friend contact me today as they had noticed our discussion about the Otto diesel engine. He said that Paul Cox got the engine from Ted Cantrell and that Paul sold it to Emory Mansker (or that's the name he thought). Just thought I would pass this on to you in case you were trying to hunt it down. TT -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 5:38 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] Ken Meeks Email Address Tommy if you look through the adds on Harry's he did have some items listed could get him that way. KK In a message dated 1/25/2012 5:06:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: Does anyone have Ken Meeks email address? Thanks. Tommy Turnet _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.454 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4164 - Release Date: 01/24/12 19:34:00 From curt at rustyiron.com Wed Jan 25 16:57:46 2012 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:57:46 -0800 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed In-Reply-To: <467180199.16692701327496417404.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: <467180199.16692701327496417404.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> Bill, Funny this should come up, as Tony Leonard and I were just discussing this earlier in the week. I'm going to echo Curt Andree's comments on bronze being the better choice. Brass is simply copper and zinc, not a very "slick" product. Bronze has the additional elements of lead and tin, making it a better material for things to slide against it. The lead and tin are slicker metals and aid in making bronze a better bearing material. The common 660 bronze material will be perfect for your application. There is a CDA number for this same material CDA 93200, maybe???, but any metal supplier will know the 660 bronze nomenclature. Curt Holland Bessemer City, NC > Bill, > My thoughts are that the orginal plunger was made of bronze not brass as > after restoring one of my large Stovers and helping several other > collectors on theirs they were all bronze. Its possible that sometime ago > some one replaced the plunger with brass stock as he didn't have any > bronze. Not sure if Joe Mauer is tuning in to our list anymore but since > he is the custody for Stover records and has several large hp Stovers you > might contact him to confirm. > regards, > Curt Andree > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bill boyce" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:59:32 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > > i need to replace the plunger in fuel pump on the 22 hp stover due to > wear. the plunger is of brass material and > travels in a cast iron bore of the pump body,,,,,,,, in checking some > catalogues i found several different kinds of > brass alloy material,,,,, maybe one of you experts could suggest which > type of brass would work best in this > application,,,,,, ? > thanks in advance for any help, > bill boyce > lost prairie, arkansas > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Wed Jan 25 17:19:39 2012 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 20:19:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Ken Meeks Email Address Message-ID: <126a1.6c294ad3.3c52042a@aol.com> Tommy thank you. I will look tonight and see what I can find on Kenny M. KK In a message dated 1/25/2012 7:46:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: Thanks Kevin. Before I posted the not on the SEL I glanced over some ads and Harry's sponsor page but didn't see his name. I'll give it a closer look. I had a friend contact me today as they had noticed our discussion about the Otto diesel engine. He said that Paul Cox got the engine from Ted Cantrell and that Paul sold it to Emory Mansker (or that's the name he thought). Just thought I would pass this on to you in case you were trying to hunt it down. TT -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 5:38 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] Ken Meeks Email Address Tommy if you look through the adds on Harry's he did have some items listed could get him that way. KK In a message dated 1/25/2012 5:06:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: Does anyone have Ken Meeks email address? Thanks. Tommy Turnet _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.454 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4164 - Release Date: 01/24/12 19:34:00 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Jan 25 17:38:28 2012 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:38:28 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Ken Meeks Email Address Message-ID: <20120125.173902.1667.40672@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> Hi Tommy. This is the address I have been using in correspondence with him. kenmeeks at rogers.com Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f20aec1793f53bcd54st06vuc From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Wed Jan 25 18:16:08 2012 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:16:08 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Ken Meeks Email Address In-Reply-To: <20120125.173902.1667.40672@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> References: <20120125.173902.1667.40672@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: And Tommy..I believe he's on facebook ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Ken Meeks Email Address > Hi Tommy. This is the address I have been using in correspondence with > him. kenmeeks at rogers.com > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > ____________________________________________________________ > 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 > The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f20aec1793f53bcd54st06vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Jan 25 19:40:04 2012 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:40:04 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Ken Meeks Email Address In-Reply-To: <20120125.173902.1667.40672@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <317B8905D0124D2DAD031058FFC2E96E@D2JYVHJ1> Thanks Ron. Tommy Turner Hi Tommy. This is the address I have been using in correspondence with him. kenmeeks at rogers.com Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell From bboyce at swat.coop Thu Jan 26 16:54:08 2012 From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:54:08 -0600 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed In-Reply-To: <6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> References: <467180199.16692701327496417404.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> <6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> Message-ID: Curt H, Curt A, and Paul,,,,, thanks for all the input on the fuel pump plunger,,,,, i decided to use a bronze-aluminum alloy, 954,,,,,,,,, it arrived today, a solid round, 1 x 13 inches, so tomorrow its sharpen the tool bits and make some chips,,,, thanks again bill boyce lost prairie, arkansas ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > > Bill, > Funny this should come up, as Tony Leonard and I were just discussing this > earlier in the week. > I'm going to echo Curt Andree's comments on bronze being the better > choice. > Brass is simply copper and zinc, not a very "slick" product. > Bronze has the additional elements of lead and tin, making it a better > material for things to slide against it. The lead and tin are slicker > metals and aid in making bronze a better bearing material. The common 660 > bronze material will be perfect for your application. There is a CDA > number for this same material CDA 93200, maybe???, but any metal supplier > will know the 660 bronze nomenclature. > Curt Holland > Bessemer City, NC > > >> Bill, >> My thoughts are that the orginal plunger was made of bronze not brass as >> after restoring one of my large Stovers and helping several other >> collectors on theirs they were all bronze. Its possible that sometime >> ago >> some one replaced the plunger with brass stock as he didn't have any >> bronze. Not sure if Joe Mauer is tuning in to our list anymore but since >> he is the custody for Stover records and has several large hp Stovers you >> might contact him to confirm. >> regards, >> Curt Andree >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "bill boyce" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:59:32 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central >> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed >> >> i need to replace the plunger in fuel pump on the 22 hp stover due to >> wear. the plunger is of brass material and >> travels in a cast iron bore of the pump body,,,,,,,, in checking some >> catalogues i found several different kinds of >> brass alloy material,,,,, maybe one of you experts could suggest which >> type of brass would work best in this >> application,,,,,, ? >> thanks in advance for any help, >> bill boyce >> lost prairie, arkansas >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From kosh at ncweb.com Thu Jan 26 23:58:25 2012 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 02:58:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed In-Reply-To: References: <6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> <467180199.16692701327496417404.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> <6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20120127025750.03f8b980@ncweb.com> Where did you order it from? Dave Merchant At 07:54 PM 1/26/2012, you wrote: >Curt H, Curt A, and Paul,,,,, thanks for all the input on the fuel pump >plunger,,,,, i decided to use >a bronze-aluminum alloy, 954,,,,,,,,, it arrived today, a solid round, 1 x >13 inches, so tomorrow >its sharpen the tool bits and make some chips,,,, thanks again >bill boyce >lost prairie, arkansas > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:57 PM >Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > > > > > > Bill, > > Funny this should come up, as Tony Leonard and I were just discussing this > > earlier in the week. > > I'm going to echo Curt Andree's comments on bronze being the better > > choice. > > Brass is simply copper and zinc, not a very "slick" product. > > Bronze has the additional elements of lead and tin, making it a better > > material for things to slide against it. The lead and tin are slicker > > metals and aid in making bronze a better bearing material. The common 660 > > bronze material will be perfect for your application. There is a CDA > > number for this same material CDA 93200, maybe???, but any metal supplier > > will know the 660 bronze nomenclature. > > Curt Holland > > Bessemer City, NC > > > > > >> Bill, > >> My thoughts are that the orginal plunger was made of bronze not brass as > >> after restoring one of my large Stovers and helping several other > >> collectors on theirs they were all bronze. Its possible that sometime > >> ago > >> some one replaced the plunger with brass stock as he didn't have any > >> bronze. Not sure if Joe Mauer is tuning in to our list anymore but since > >> he is the custody for Stover records and has several large hp Stovers you > >> might contact him to confirm. > >> regards, > >> Curt Andree > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "bill boyce" > >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:59:32 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > >> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > >> > >> i need to replace the plunger in fuel pump on the 22 hp stover due to > >> wear. the plunger is of brass material and > >> travels in a cast iron bore of the pump body,,,,,,,, in checking some > >> catalogues i found several different kinds of > >> brass alloy material,,,,, maybe one of you experts could suggest which > >> type of brass would work best in this > >> application,,,,,, ? > >> thanks in advance for any help, > >> bill boyce > >> lost prairie, arkansas > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at ncweb.com kosh at nesys.com dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From marinesurveys at msn.com Fri Jan 27 00:13:34 2012 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:13:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20120127025750.03f8b980@ncweb.com> References: <6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>, <467180199.16692701327496417404.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>, <6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>, <5.2.0.9.0.20120127025750.03f8b980@ncweb.com> Message-ID: 954 Bronze is one hard to machine bronze, me thinks that it may not be a god choice for this project. Just saying Frank Skinner Best Regards Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 02:58:25 -0500 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > From: kosh at ncweb.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > > Where did you order it from? > > Dave Merchant > > At 07:54 PM 1/26/2012, you wrote: > >Curt H, Curt A, and Paul,,,,, thanks for all the input on the fuel pump > >plunger,,,,, i decided to use > >a bronze-aluminum alloy, 954,,,,,,,,, it arrived today, a solid round, 1 x > >13 inches, so tomorrow > >its sharpen the tool bits and make some chips,,,, thanks again > >bill boyce > >lost prairie, arkansas > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: > >To: "The SEL email discussion list" > >Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:57 PM > >Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > > Funny this should come up, as Tony Leonard and I were just discussing this > > > earlier in the week. > > > I'm going to echo Curt Andree's comments on bronze being the better > > > choice. > > > Brass is simply copper and zinc, not a very "slick" product. > > > Bronze has the additional elements of lead and tin, making it a better > > > material for things to slide against it. The lead and tin are slicker > > > metals and aid in making bronze a better bearing material. The common 660 > > > bronze material will be perfect for your application. There is a CDA > > > number for this same material CDA 93200, maybe???, but any metal supplier > > > will know the 660 bronze nomenclature. > > > Curt Holland > > > Bessemer City, NC > > > > > > > > >> Bill, > > >> My thoughts are that the orginal plunger was made of bronze not brass as > > >> after restoring one of my large Stovers and helping several other > > >> collectors on theirs they were all bronze. Its possible that sometime > > >> ago > > >> some one replaced the plunger with brass stock as he didn't have any > > >> bronze. Not sure if Joe Mauer is tuning in to our list anymore but since > > >> he is the custody for Stover records and has several large hp Stovers you > > >> might contact him to confirm. > > >> regards, > > >> Curt Andree > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "bill boyce" > > >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:59:32 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > > >> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > > >> > > >> i need to replace the plunger in fuel pump on the 22 hp stover due to > > >> wear. the plunger is of brass material and > > >> travels in a cast iron bore of the pump body,,,,,,,, in checking some > > >> catalogues i found several different kinds of > > >> brass alloy material,,,,, maybe one of you experts could suggest which > > >> type of brass would work best in this > > >> application,,,,,, ? > > >> thanks in advance for any help, > > >> bill boyce > > >> lost prairie, arkansas > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> SEL mailing list > > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> SEL mailing list > > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SEL mailing list > > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Dave Merchant > kosh at ncweb.com > kosh at nesys.com > dmerchant at layerzero.com > > http://www.nesys.com > http://www.nesys.org > YouTube: SteamCrane > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bboyce at swat.coop Fri Jan 27 06:01:13 2012 From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 08:01:13 -0600 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20120127025750.03f8b980@ncweb.com> References: <6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com><467180199.16692701327496417404.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11><6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20120127025750.03f8b980@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <62DD62B9CC9F46BB8C21EA6144AEDD2C@billPC> dave, i got it from mcmaster carr bb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Merchant" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > Where did you order it from? > > Dave Merchant > > At 07:54 PM 1/26/2012, you wrote: >>Curt H, Curt A, and Paul,,,,, thanks for all the input on the fuel pump >>plunger,,,,, i decided to use >>a bronze-aluminum alloy, 954,,,,,,,,, it arrived today, a solid round, 1 x >>13 inches, so tomorrow >>its sharpen the tool bits and make some chips,,,, thanks again >>bill boyce >>lost prairie, arkansas >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:57 PM >>Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed >> >> >> > >> > Bill, >> > Funny this should come up, as Tony Leonard and I were just discussing >> > this >> > earlier in the week. >> > I'm going to echo Curt Andree's comments on bronze being the better >> > choice. >> > Brass is simply copper and zinc, not a very "slick" product. >> > Bronze has the additional elements of lead and tin, making it a better >> > material for things to slide against it. The lead and tin are slicker >> > metals and aid in making bronze a better bearing material. The common >> > 660 >> > bronze material will be perfect for your application. There is a CDA >> > number for this same material CDA 93200, maybe???, but any metal >> > supplier >> > will know the 660 bronze nomenclature. >> > Curt Holland >> > Bessemer City, NC >> > >> > >> >> Bill, >> >> My thoughts are that the orginal plunger was made of bronze not brass >> >> as >> >> after restoring one of my large Stovers and helping several other >> >> collectors on theirs they were all bronze. Its possible that sometime >> >> ago >> >> some one replaced the plunger with brass stock as he didn't have any >> >> bronze. Not sure if Joe Mauer is tuning in to our list anymore but >> >> since >> >> he is the custody for Stover records and has several large hp Stovers >> >> you >> >> might contact him to confirm. >> >> regards, >> >> Curt Andree >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "bill boyce" >> >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:59:32 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada >> >> Central >> >> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed >> >> >> >> i need to replace the plunger in fuel pump on the 22 hp stover due to >> >> wear. the plunger is of brass material and >> >> travels in a cast iron bore of the pump body,,,,,,,, in checking some >> >> catalogues i found several different kinds of >> >> brass alloy material,,,,, maybe one of you experts could suggest which >> >> type of brass would work best in this >> >> application,,,,,, ? >> >> thanks in advance for any help, >> >> bill boyce >> >> lost prairie, arkansas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SEL mailing list >> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SEL mailing list >> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SEL mailing list >> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > >> > >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Dave Merchant > kosh at ncweb.com > kosh at nesys.com > dmerchant at layerzero.com > > http://www.nesys.com > http://www.nesys.org > YouTube: SteamCrane > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From kosh at ncweb.com Fri Jan 27 10:34:49 2012 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:34:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed In-Reply-To: <62DD62B9CC9F46BB8C21EA6144AEDD2C@billPC> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20120127025750.03f8b980@ncweb.com> <6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> <467180199.16692701327496417404.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> <6218b69109aea6fb5de59736bc24abec.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20120127025750.03f8b980@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20120127133146.029fc8c0@ncweb.com> Thanks, I had assumed it would have been from obscure guy working out of his garage that doesn't have a website and never answers his phone. Dave Merchant At 09:01 AM 1/27/2012, you wrote: >dave, i got it from mcmaster carr >bb >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dave Merchant" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:58 AM >Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > > > > Where did you order it from? > > > > Dave Merchant > > > > At 07:54 PM 1/26/2012, you wrote: > >>Curt H, Curt A, and Paul,,,,, thanks for all the input on the fuel pump > >>plunger,,,,, i decided to use > >>a bronze-aluminum alloy, 954,,,,,,,,, it arrived today, a solid round, 1 x > >>13 inches, so tomorrow > >>its sharpen the tool bits and make some chips,,,, thanks again > >>bill boyce > >>lost prairie, arkansas > >> > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: > >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" > >>Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:57 PM > >>Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > >> > >> > >> > > >> > Bill, > >> > Funny this should come up, as Tony Leonard and I were just discussing > >> > this > >> > earlier in the week. > >> > I'm going to echo Curt Andree's comments on bronze being the better > >> > choice. > >> > Brass is simply copper and zinc, not a very "slick" product. > >> > Bronze has the additional elements of lead and tin, making it a better > >> > material for things to slide against it. The lead and tin are slicker > >> > metals and aid in making bronze a better bearing material. The common > >> > 660 > >> > bronze material will be perfect for your application. There is a CDA > >> > number for this same material CDA 93200, maybe???, but any metal > >> > supplier > >> > will know the 660 bronze nomenclature. > >> > Curt Holland > >> > Bessemer City, NC > >> > > >> > > >> >> Bill, > >> >> My thoughts are that the orginal plunger was made of bronze not brass > >> >> as > >> >> after restoring one of my large Stovers and helping several other > >> >> collectors on theirs they were all bronze. Its possible that sometime > >> >> ago > >> >> some one replaced the plunger with brass stock as he didn't have any > >> >> bronze. Not sure if Joe Mauer is tuning in to our list anymore but > >> >> since > >> >> he is the custody for Stover records and has several large hp Stovers > >> >> you > >> >> might contact him to confirm. > >> >> regards, > >> >> Curt Andree > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "bill boyce" > >> >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:59:32 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada > >> >> Central > >> >> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover fuel pump,, brass advice needed > >> >> > >> >> i need to replace the plunger in fuel pump on the 22 hp stover due to > >> >> wear. the plunger is of brass material and > >> >> travels in a cast iron bore of the pump body,,,,,,,, in checking some > >> >> catalogues i found several different kinds of > >> >> brass alloy material,,,,, maybe one of you experts could suggest which > >> >> type of brass would work best in this > >> >> application,,,,,, ? > >> >> thanks in advance for any help, > >> >> bill boyce > >> >> lost prairie, arkansas > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> SEL mailing list > >> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> SEL mailing list > >> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > SEL mailing list > >> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>SEL mailing list > >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > Dave Merchant > > kosh at ncweb.com > > kosh at nesys.com > > dmerchant at layerzero.com > > > > http://www.nesys.com > > http://www.nesys.org > > YouTube: SteamCrane > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at ncweb.com kosh at nesys.com dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Fri Jan 27 14:09:17 2012 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:09:17 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Oldengine Message-ID: Hi everyone, Is anyone else having trouble viewing pages at oldengine.org? Patrick Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From jrwright at adam.com.au Fri Jan 27 14:18:13 2012 From: jrwright at adam.com.au (John Wright) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:48:13 +1030 Subject: [SEL] Oldengine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000601ccdd41$8f85dff0$ae919fd0$@com.au> No issues in Adelaide. Has been OK all week. Regards John W -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Livingstone Sent: Saturday, 28 January 2012 8:39 AM To: ATIS; Oldengine Subject: [SEL] Oldengine Hi everyone, Is anyone else having trouble viewing pages at oldengine.org? Patrick Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From amkimmell at gmail.com Fri Jan 27 14:23:59 2012 From: amkimmell at gmail.com (Tony Kimmell) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:23:59 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Oldengine Message-ID: Looks like the whole site is down. -Tony From blcksmth at wcnet.org Fri Jan 27 14:46:53 2012 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:46:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Oldengine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F23295D.1000204@wcnet.org> It does not work from here either. Bob Willman The Eagle's Anvil Bowling Green, Ohio WB8NQW The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground. Thomas Jefferson in a letter to E. Carrington, May 27,1788 On 1/27/2012 5:09 PM, Patrick Livingstone wrote: > Hi everyone, > Is anyone else having trouble viewing pages at oldengine.org? > Patrick > > Patrick M Livingstone > 0418 692013 > Earlwood NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From mathjr at optusnet.com.au Fri Jan 27 15:02:48 2012 From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au (John Mathieson) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 10:02:48 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Oldengine References: Message-ID: <9D15BD537B6147519B42D99AFBA50B52@jackospc> Hi patrick, I looked at the site on Thursday no worries but can't connect today. Regards John Mathieson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Livingstone" To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine" Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 9:09 AM Subject: [SEL] Oldengine > Hi everyone, > Is anyone else having trouble viewing pages at oldengine.org? > Patrick > > Patrick M Livingstone > 0418 692013 > Earlwood NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4768 - Release Date: 01/26/12 > From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Jan 27 18:16:15 2012 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:16:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> Hi All, I had a rather bad day Wednesday. Spend the next day in the hospital for observation and testing. Spent today cleaning out the Van of what all was shoveled back into it at the scene. I am not allowed to lift at all so family and friends did the work for me as I made the sorting decisions. I am on at least a week of restricted (NO) lifting due to some internal bleeds that had clotted off. I have to give the internal injuries time to heal. I am not complaining, I am just happy to be alive. I have no right to be. I run a stop sign and got T-Boned. The guy in the other car is ok. Airbags and belts saved him. God saved me. The van rolled at least one and a half times. I was thrown out in the rolling. God has a plan for me or else he would not have seen me out of that as cleanly as I was. Other then the internal bleeds only minor scrapes and bruising. No cuts no broken bones. Sore as heck all over. Happy to be alive. In the back of the van was three Upright Maytags a Johnson Utili-Motor. A Kohler light plant a smaller Kohler engine and a lot of miscellaneous. Still have to evaluate the damage to them. Mark >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van1.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van2.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van3.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van4.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van5.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van6.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van7.jpg Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From amkimmell at gmail.com Fri Jan 27 18:41:36 2012 From: amkimmell at gmail.com (Tony Kimmell) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:41:36 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Accident Message-ID: Holy hell, you're lucky to be alive man. Sending prayers your way for both you and the Maytags. I think the van is past the point of prayer though lol -Tony From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Jan 27 18:52:56 2012 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:52:56 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: DUDE! I?m grateful that we get to read your post, rather than someone else posting that you were dead. Y?know, no matter how old we get, there are always good lessons to be learned. Party on, Garth. From obise at moscow.com Fri Jan 27 22:32:50 2012 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:32:50 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <4F239692.8080101@moscow.com> Mark, I'm terribly sorry to hear of your mishap, but mighty glad you are still in one piece. I feel a bit of kinship to your van, seeing as how our Jaeger took a ride in it, once, thanks to your goodhearted generosity. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 1/27/2012 6:16 PM, Mark Shulaw wrote: > Hi All, I had a rather bad day Wednesday. Spend the next day in the > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From oldengin1 at gmail.com Sat Jan 28 02:48:06 2012 From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 05:48:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: References: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Let me know if I can help in some way. Where did this happen? Leroy On Jan 27, 2012 9:59 PM, "Rob Skinner" wrote: DUDE! I?m grateful that we get to read your post, rather than someone else posting that you were dead. Y?know, no matter how old we get, there are always good lessons to be learned. Party on, Garth. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engi... From mr at carolina.rr.com Sat Jan 28 05:11:30 2012 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:11:30 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Close call Mark! I bet you don't run any more stop signs! Take it easy and get well. Mike Royster -----Original Message----- From: Mark Shulaw Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 9:16 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Accident Hi All, I had a rather bad day Wednesday. Spend the next day in the hospital for observation and testing. Spent today cleaning out the Van of what all was shoveled back into it at the scene. I am not allowed to lift at all so family and friends did the work for me as I made the sorting decisions. I am on at least a week of restricted (NO) lifting due to some internal bleeds that had clotted off. I have to give the internal injuries time to heal. I am not complaining, I am just happy to be alive. I have no right to be. I run a stop sign and got T-Boned. The guy in the other car is ok. Airbags and belts saved him. God saved me. The van rolled at least one and a half times. I was thrown out in the rolling. God has a plan for me or else he would not have seen me out of that as cleanly as I was. Other then the internal bleeds only minor scrapes and bruising. No cuts no broken bones. Sore as heck all over. Happy to be alive. In the back of the van was three Upright Maytags a Johnson Utili-Motor. A Kohler light plant a smaller Kohler engine and a lot of miscellaneous. Still have to evaluate the damage to them. Mark >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van1.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van2.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van3.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van4.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van5.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van6.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van7.jpg Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From donreneau at netzero.net Fri Jan 27 22:48:07 2012 From: donreneau at netzero.net (donreneau at netzero.net) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 06:48:07 GMT Subject: [SEL] Accident Message-ID: <20120128.004807.23189.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Mark, Bless you. You are very lucky to be alive & kicking. Yes you have a purpse in this life. I too am pleased to hear of the accident from you insteadof from a family member.Bless you, our prayers go out for you and the family buddy.Always,Don Reneau ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4f239a62b12848bbd4st05vuc From cuz904_99 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 27 20:36:30 2012 From: cuz904_99 at yahoo.com (John E. Hart) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:36:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] Spam> Message-ID: <1327725390.63877.yint-ygo-j2me@web114709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> ... http://mariarosanaldjian.com.ar/work.link.php?elfortune=71n4 From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Jan 28 06:22:19 2012 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:22:19 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <14051CC7D6244BE191B178C6CD09401B@D2JYVHJ1> Mark, You're a lucky guy. Its rare that an accident with that much damage occurs without serious injury or even death. God was certainly watching over you. Tommy Turner -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark Shulaw Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 9:16 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Accident Hi All, I had a rather bad day Wednesday. Spend the next day in the hospital for observation and testing. Spent today cleaning out the Van of what all was shoveled back into it at the scene. I am not allowed to lift at all so family and friends did the work for me as I made the sorting decisions. I am on at least a week of restricted (NO) lifting due to some internal bleeds that had clotted off. I have to give the internal injuries time to heal. I am not complaining, I am just happy to be alive. I have no right to be. I run a stop sign and got T-Boned. The guy in the other car is ok. Airbags and belts saved him. God saved me. The van rolled at least one and a half times. I was thrown out in the rolling. God has a plan for me or else he would not have seen me out of that as cleanly as I was. Other then the internal bleeds only minor scrapes and bruising. No cuts no broken bones. Sore as heck all over. Happy to be alive. In the back of the van was three Upright Maytags a Johnson Utili-Motor. A Kohler light plant a smaller Kohler engine and a lot of miscellaneous. Still have to evaluate the damage to them. Mark >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van1.jpg From kkinney at herculesengines.com Fri Jan 27 21:07:43 2012 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (kkinney at herculesengines.com) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 23:07:43 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Wow Mark! Looks like you are one blessed man. Keith On Jan 27, 2012, at 8:16 PM, Mark Shulaw wrote: > Hi All, I had a rather bad day Wednesday. Spend the next day in the > hospital for observation and testing. Spent today cleaning out the > Van of what all was shoveled back into it at the scene. I am not > allowed to lift at all so family and friends did the work for me as I > made the sorting decisions. I am on at least a week of restricted > (NO) lifting due to some internal bleeds that had clotted off. I have > to give the internal injuries time to heal. I am not complaining, I > am just happy to be alive. I have no right to be. I run a stop sign > and got T-Boned. The guy in the other car is ok. Airbags and belts > saved him. God saved me. The van rolled at least one and a half > times. I was thrown out in the rolling. God has a plan for me or > else he would not have seen me out of that as cleanly as I was. Other > then the internal bleeds only minor scrapes and bruising. No cuts no > broken bones. Sore as heck all over. Happy to be alive. > > In the back of the van was three Upright Maytags a Johnson > Utili-Motor. A Kohler light plant a smaller Kohler engine and a lot > of miscellaneous. Still have to evaluate the damage to them. Mark > > >> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van1.jpg >> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van2.jpg >> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van3.jpg >> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van4.jpg >> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van5.jpg >> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van6.jpg >> http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van7.jpg > > > Mark Shulaw > 454 County Road 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home > Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere > and Hercules Engines. > Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jlb94 at juno.com Sat Jan 28 07:03:05 2012 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:03:05 GMT Subject: [SEL] Accident Message-ID: <20120128.100305.30443.1@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> Glad you're still with us Mark. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ ?There?s no doubt about it, (_0_) Dogs are nicer than people.? Andy Rooney ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Mark Shulaw To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Accident Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:16:15 -0500 Hi All, I had a rather bad day Wednesday. Spend the next day in the hospital for observation and testing. Spent today cleaning out the Van of what all was shoveled back into it at the scene. I am not allowed to lift at all so family and friends did the work for me as I made the sorting decisions. I am on at least a week of restricted (NO) lifting due to some internal bleeds that had clotted off. I have to give the internal injuries time to heal. I am not complaining, I am just happy to be alive. I have no right to be. I run a stop sign and got T-Boned. The guy in the other car is ok. Airbags and belts saved him. God saved me. The van rolled at least one and a half times. I was thrown out in the rolling. God has a plan for me or else he would not have seen me out of that as cleanly as I was. Other then the internal bleeds only minor scrapes and bruising. No cuts no broken bones. Sore as heck all over. Happy to be alive. In the back of the van was three Upright Maytags a Johnson Utili-Motor. A Kohler light plant a smaller Kohler engine and a lot of miscellaneous. Still have to evaluate the damage to them. Mark >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van1.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van2.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van3.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van4.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van5.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van6.jpg >http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van7.jpg Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere and Hercules Engines. Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f240e673adec4acdf1st06vuc From maytagtwin at aol.com Fri Jan 27 20:36:21 2012 From: maytagtwin at aol.com (maytagtwin at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 23:36:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <8CEAB8D84DB5AC8-1B50-8614@angweb-usm005.sysops.aol.com> Hi Mark, Surely glad to hear you made it through in as good a shape as you did. I look forward to your progress reports, and, to learning about the condition of your passengers. Ron -----Original Message----- From: Mark Shulaw To: The SEL email discussion list Sent: Fri, Jan 27, 2012 8:28 pm Subject: [SEL] Accident Hi All, I had a rather bad day Wednesday. Spend the next day in the ospital for observation and testing. Spent today cleaning out the an of what all was shoveled back into it at the scene. I am not llowed to lift at all so family and friends did the work for me as I ade the sorting decisions. I am on at least a week of restricted NO) lifting due to some internal bleeds that had clotted off. I have o give the internal injuries time to heal. I am not complaining, I m just happy to be alive. I have no right to be. I run a stop sign nd got T-Boned. The guy in the other car is ok. Airbags and belts aved him. God saved me. The van rolled at least one and a half imes. I was thrown out in the rolling. God has a plan for me or lse he would not have seen me out of that as cleanly as I was. Other hen the internal bleeds only minor scrapes and bruising. No cuts no roken bones. Sore as heck all over. Happy to be alive. In the back of the van was three Upright Maytags a Johnson tili-Motor. A Kohler light plant a smaller Kohler engine and a lot f miscellaneous. Still have to evaluate the damage to them. Mark http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van1.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van2.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van3.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van4.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van5.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van6.jpg http://www2.wcoil.com/~frappi/Van7.jpg ark Shulaw 54 County Road 33 luffton, OH. 45817 SA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home obby Collector and Dealer in John Deere nd Hercules Engines. aytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. ISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com _______________________________________________ EL mailing list EL at lists.stationary-engine.com ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From yostsw at atis.net Sun Jan 29 16:26:49 2012 From: yostsw at atis.net (Spencer Yost) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 19:26:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Test Message-ID: <56D7CCC5-CA65-4191-956F-345C902D8E53@atis.net> Just a test after hardware repair. Spencer Sent from my iPhone From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Sun Jan 29 19:58:11 2012 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (pjp08 at steamengine.com.au) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:58:11 +1100 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <50559.203.39.62.50.1327895891.squirrel@mail.steamengine.com.au> Not much left of that van Mark - probably a good thing you were thrown out. Hope you recover fully and can get back into the hobby with the upcoming re-restoration of your passengers. Regards Paul > Hi All, I had a rather bad day Wednesday. Spend the next day in the > hospital for observation and testing. From enginepaul at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 06:23:19 2012 From: enginepaul at gmail.com (STRAIGHT from SanFran) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 06:23:19 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: <50559.203.39.62.50.1327895891.squirrel@mail.steamengine.com.au> References: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> <50559.203.39.62.50.1327895891.squirrel@mail.steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: Mark: I hope you realize how lucky you were. Those are scary pictures - except for the one with the crutch against the van; that will make a good reminder. Good luck, and a speedy recovery. Paul in California From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Jan 30 10:34:34 2012 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:34:34 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20120130201345.01f4f1e8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 07:00 PM 30/01/12, you wrote: Message: 7 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:16:15 -0500 From: Mark Shulaw Subject: [SEL] Accident Hi All, I had a rather bad day Wednesday. Spend the next day in the hospital for observation and testing. Spent today cleaning out the Van of what all was shoveled back into it at the scene. I am not allowed to lift at all so family and friends did the work for me as I made the sorting decisions. I am on at least a week of restricted (NO) lifting due to some internal bleeds that had clotted off. I have to give the internal injuries time to heal. I am not complaining, I am just happy to be alive. I have no right to be. I run a stop sign and got T-Boned. The guy in the other car is ok. Airbags and belts saved him. God saved me. The van rolled at least one and a half times. I was thrown out in the rolling. God has a plan for me or else he would not have seen me out of that as cleanly as I was. Other then the internal bleeds only minor scrapes and bruising. No cuts no broken bones. Sore as heck all over. Happy to be alive. In the back of the van was three Upright Maytags a Johnson Utili-Motor. A Kohler light plant a smaller Kohler engine and a lot of miscellaneous. Still have to evaluate the damage to them. Mark Hi Mark (and Christine), Dammit man that looks bad - you gotta be more careful -we still need you - where else are we going to buy Maytag parts and get information if you go and write yourself off !! :-) (For those amongst us who happen to be humorously challenged - I'm joking !! - it never works if you have to explain it !!) Mark mate, it's good to know you escaped that lot with what appears to be only minor injuries. Yes, God was looking after you and you will be in my prayers again but, thankfully, this time it will be because you were protected that I will give thanks and also pray for a full and fast recovery for you. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: <[1]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> References 1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Mon Jan 30 11:26:16 2012 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:26:16 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 9 hp Galloway setback Message-ID: Howdee all; Well after pressure washing out the gunk behind the piston, it now shows ~1" x 2" chunk out of the piston skirt. So we are looking for one...6-1/2" dia. bore and piston is ~8-1/2" long. Piston is still stuck so we can't get exact measurements. If all else fails we will have to have one made so are there any recommendations out there for having one made? Thanks much!! RickinMt. From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon Jan 30 11:33:06 2012 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:33:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 9 hp Galloway setback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00b401ccdf85$fe287350$fa7959f0$@com> Fooling with skirts has gotten guys in a lot of trouble through the years. I think you'll be OK in this case though. 6 1/2" should be a fairly easy to find size. I'd bet Ken Meeks would have one. No telling what it may be out of but if its 6 1/2 x 8 or so, you could make a go of it. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard Strobel Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 2:26 PM To: The SEL email discussion list; stationary-engine Subject: [SEL] 9 hp Galloway setback Howdee all; Well after pressure washing out the gunk behind the piston, it now shows ~1" x 2" chunk out of the piston skirt. So we are looking for one...6-1/2" dia. bore and piston is ~8-1/2" long. Piston is still stuck so we can't get exact measurements. If all else fails we will have to have one made so are there any recommendations out there for having one made? Thanks much!! RickinMt. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From skipl130 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 30 11:47:37 2012 From: skipl130 at yahoo.com (Skip Landis) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:47:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] 9 hp Galloway setback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1327952857.75411.YahooMailNeo@web112410.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Rick, why not fit a piece in it?? skip ________________________________ From: Richard Strobel To: The SEL email discussion list ; stationary-engine Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: [SEL] 9 hp Galloway setback Howdee all; ? Well after pressure washing out the gunk behind the piston, it now shows ~1" x 2" chunk out of the piston skirt.? So we are looking for one...6-1/2" dia. bore and piston is ~8-1/2" long.? Piston is still stuck so we can't get exact measurements. ? If all else fails we will have to have one made so are there any recommendations out there for having one made? Thanks much!! RickinMt. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 14:44:52 2012 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 09:44:52 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Accident In-Reply-To: <20120128021615.C60D99810@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Glad to hear you are ok. Your van certainly took a big hit. Patrick Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From yostsw at atis.net Mon Jan 30 18:08:36 2012 From: yostsw at atis.net (Spencer Yost) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:08:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] ATIS outage In-Reply-To: <151f82570a6699b42d141e92a3f30ede.squirrel@www.sundance-consulting.com> References: <151f82570a6699b42d141e92a3f30ede.squirrel@www.sundance-consulting.com> Message-ID: <4F274D23.9010203@atis.net> Just a quick update: - Late Friday night the ATIS server went down. A disk had went bad. Fortunately I had anticipated the outage because some of the disk parameters were beginning to look bad(What did we do before SMART parameters???). So I already had the disks in hand (got them Wednesday) - just hadn't installed them yet though. Unfortunately I __HAD__ to go out of town Saturday morning. There was no re-scheduling that trip. I tried to finish the job before I had to leave Saturday morning but I only got 50% finished. So I finished fixing it late Sunday when I returned. Sorry for the outage and the delay in repairing. Let me know if you see any hiccups or issues, but I think everything should be exactly as it was late Friday before the outage. Spencer From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Mon Jan 30 18:15:31 2012 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:15:31 +1100 Subject: [SEL] ATIS outage In-Reply-To: <4F274D23.9010203@atis.net> References: <151f82570a6699b42d141e92a3f30ede.squirrel@www.sundance-consulting.com> <4F274D23.9010203@atis.net> Message-ID: <4F274EC3.7050207@optusnet.com.au> Thank you Spencer for your time and effort in giving us the list that we value, well done again Kerry Sorry for the outage and the delay in repairing. Let me know if you see any hiccups or issues, but I think everything should be exactly as it was late Friday before the outage. Spencer -- Kerry Morris Tangye Engine Registrar 0400421133 Web Page. www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/ From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon Jan 30 18:23:27 2012 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:23:27 -0500 Subject: [SEL] ATIS outage In-Reply-To: <4F274D23.9010203@atis.net> Message-ID: <0FC8190AE9354606870B59F094E38B65@ckcsdb40cdd57a> Thanks Spencer for all you do for us and helping keep the old iron world connected. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Spencer Yost Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 9:09 PM To: Antique tractor email discussion group; The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] ATIS outage Just a quick update: - Late Friday night the ATIS server went down. A disk had went bad. Fortunately I had anticipated the outage because some of the disk parameters were beginning to look bad(What did we do before SMART parameters???). So I already had the disks in hand (got them Wednesday) - just hadn't installed them yet though. Unfortunately I __HAD__ to go out of town Saturday morning. There was no re-scheduling that trip. I tried to finish the job before I had to leave Saturday morning but I only got 50% finished. So I finished fixing it late Sunday when I returned. Sorry for the outage and the delay in repairing. Let me know if you see any hiccups or issues, but I think everything should be exactly as it was late Friday before the outage. Spencer _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From curt at rustyiron.com Mon Jan 30 18:40:45 2012 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:40:45 -0800 Subject: [SEL] ATIS outage In-Reply-To: <4F274D23.9010203@atis.net> References: <151f82570a6699b42d141e92a3f30ede.squirrel@www.sundance-consulting.com> <4F274D23.9010203@atis.net> Message-ID: <1660152800f154245e4afb60fe8ba02a.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com> > Sorry for the outage and the delay in repairing. Let me know if you see > any hiccups or issues, but I think everything should be exactly as it > was late Friday before the outage. > > Spencer Spencer, If only a certain piece of old oil field iron could receive as prompt a TLC as the server did :-) Made any progress this winter? Just funnin with ya. Thanks for all you do for the lists. Curt Holland Bessemer City, NC