From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Wed Aug  1 03:57:43 2012
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 20:57:43 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Brooks pictures
In-Reply-To: <20120731.175839.1659.24226@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <CC3F48C7.EDA9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

Thanks for the pics. Some very, very nice engines there.
Patrick


On 1/8/12 10:58 AM, "rdhaskell at juno.com" <rdhaskell at juno.com> wrote:

> Hi all.
> Last weekend I visited the show in Brooks Oregon.  Beautiful weather and
> engines, display area is top notch.  Pictures at:
> https://picasaweb.google.com/104862591013550196821/Brooks2012#
> 
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California USA
> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Aug  1 09:41:23 2012
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 17:41:23 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2013 Is Now A 3-Day Show
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On 31 July 2012 18:05, Best, George <George.Best at adp.com> wrote:
> I'm planning on being there!
>
> I've always thought of the show is the past as basically a 3 day show since Saturday was already pretty much a full blown show.  Guess that just means everyone needs to arrive on Friday now.

The first year we went, on a Friday pm arrival,  there wasn't a lot on
the field, but quite a few folks were there. Saturday was when most
arrived, as they were probably unable to get time off on the Friday,
and Sunday/Monday were the show days proper.

That was at the old site.

Now, with more camping and display space, Friday has become more of a
build-up day and Saturday is almost a full show day, which is why
Anton has decided to make it permanent.

We have left our options open for travelling on Wednesday's night boat
instead of Thursday's morning boat, just in case it starts getting too
busy too quickly.

Don't forget that this is a national holiday weekend for the Dutch,
with Monday being a Bank Holiday, with most places closed. Many of the
Germans have to be at work on the Monday so they often leave on the
Sunday.

Peter
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From George.Best at adp.com  Wed Aug  1 08:27:16 2012
From: George.Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 10:27:16 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Brooks pictures
In-Reply-To: <20120731.175839.1659.24226@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20120731.175839.1659.24226@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>
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The 3hp Gade in the photos is mine and was my 9v battery experiment during the show.
I ran the Gade non-stop for 8 hours on Saturday and non-stop for 9 hours on Sunday running on a disposable 9 volt battery.
I had previously run the engine 1.5 hours on the same battery and at the end of the show it still had 8 volts!

I'm sure that a little 9v battery is sufficient to run a hit&miss ignitor fired engine that is not working for several engine shows.
Especially if you don't run your engine non-stop like I was doing.

The red 4hp tank cooled Stover with the embossed cylinder is also my engine.  It is a 1903 engine, while the two square push rod engines at the show are probably 1902.
The square pushrod engines do not have serial numbers or Stover tags and are most likely prototype engines that Stover tested at a ranch in Oregon.  Both engines were found on the same ranch.
So I didn't have the oldest Stover at the show, but I did have the oldest one with a serial number (1887) and brass tag at the show.

Ron didn't include a photo of it, but I also had my 3hp tank cooled Stover W at the show.  The tank cooled W engines where custom made by Stover and were all shipped to Australia.  There are only about a dozen of these tank cooled engines in the Cooper registry.  I had the engine shipped from Australia, so most likely it is the only one in North America.

George


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rdhaskell at juno.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 5:58 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Brooks pictures

Hi all.
Last weekend I visited the show in Brooks Oregon.  Beautiful weather and engines, display area is top notch.  Pictures at:
https://picasaweb.google.com/104862591013550196821/Brooks2012#

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell



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From jbcast at charter.net  Wed Aug  1 14:44:01 2012
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 17:44:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Brooks pictures
Message-ID: <5ac7d61e.1fff26.138e4253bf8.Webtop.45@charter.net>

An ignitor for a battery ignition is usually closed only at firing time. 
Magneto ignitors may be closed all of the time except when firing, this 
will make a sinificnt
difference in battery draw.
J.B. Castagnos

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Best, George wrote:

> The 3hp Gade in the photos is mine and was my 9v battery experiment 
> during the show.
> I ran the Gade non-stop for 8 hours on Saturday and non-stop for 9 
> hours on Sunday running on a disposable 9 volt battery.
> I had previously run the engine 1.5 hours on the same battery and at 
> the end of the show it still had 8 volts!
>
> I'm sure that a little 9v battery is sufficient to run a hit&miss 
> ignitor fired engine that is not working for several engine shows.
> Especially if you don't run your engine non-stop like I was doing.
>
> The red 4hp tank cooled Stover with the embossed cylinder is also my 
> engine.  It is a 1903 engine, while the two square push rod engines at 
> the show are probably 1902.
> The square pushrod engines do not have serial numbers or Stover tags 
> and are most likely prototype engines that Stover tested at a ranch in 
> Oregon.  Both engines were found on the same ranch.
> So I didn't have the oldest Stover at the show, but I did have the 
> oldest one with a serial number (1887) and brass tag at the show.
>
> Ron didn't include a photo of it, but I also had my 3hp tank cooled 
> Stover W at the show.  The tank cooled W engines where custom made by 
> Stover and were all shipped to Australia.  There are only about a 
> dozen of these tank cooled engines in the Cooper registry.  I had the 
> engine shipped from Australia, so most likely it is the only one in 
> North America.
>
> George
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com 
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of 
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 5:58 PM
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] Brooks pictures
>
> Hi all.
> Last weekend I visited the show in Brooks Oregon.  Beautiful weather 
> and engines, display area is top notch.  Pictures at:
> https://picasaweb.google.com/104862591013550196821/Brooks2012#
>
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California USA
> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
>
>
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From George.Best at adp.com  Wed Aug  1 14:58:54 2012
From: George.Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 16:58:54 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Brooks pictures
In-Reply-To: <5ac7d61e.1fff26.138e4253bf8.Webtop.45@charter.net>
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Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD4148C1E1A1F@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Correct!
There is no draw on the battery except for the moment the ignitor trips.
A big reason why the little battery can last so long.

Wouldn't last long at all if trying to power a buzz coil on a throttle governed engine!

George

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of jbcast at charter.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 2:44 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Brooks pictures

An ignitor for a battery ignition is usually closed only at firing time. 
Magneto ignitors may be closed all of the time except when firing, this will make a sinificnt difference in battery draw.
J.B. Castagnos

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Best, George wrote:

> The 3hp Gade in the photos is mine and was my 9v battery experiment 
> during the show.
> I ran the Gade non-stop for 8 hours on Saturday and non-stop for 9 
> hours on Sunday running on a disposable 9 volt battery.
> I had previously run the engine 1.5 hours on the same battery and at 
> the end of the show it still had 8 volts!
>
> I'm sure that a little 9v battery is sufficient to run a hit&miss 
> ignitor fired engine that is not working for several engine shows.
> Especially if you don't run your engine non-stop like I was doing.
>
> The red 4hp tank cooled Stover with the embossed cylinder is also my 
> engine.  It is a 1903 engine, while the two square push rod engines at 
> the show are probably 1902.
> The square pushrod engines do not have serial numbers or Stover tags 
> and are most likely prototype engines that Stover tested at a ranch in 
> Oregon.  Both engines were found on the same ranch.
> So I didn't have the oldest Stover at the show, but I did have the 
> oldest one with a serial number (1887) and brass tag at the show.
>
> Ron didn't include a photo of it, but I also had my 3hp tank cooled 
> Stover W at the show.  The tank cooled W engines where custom made by 
> Stover and were all shipped to Australia.  There are only about a 
> dozen of these tank cooled engines in the Cooper registry.  I had the 
> engine shipped from Australia, so most likely it is the only one in 
> North America.
>
> George
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of 
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 5:58 PM
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] Brooks pictures
>
> Hi all.
> Last weekend I visited the show in Brooks Oregon.  Beautiful weather 
> and engines, display area is top notch.  Pictures at:
> https://picasaweb.google.com/104862591013550196821/Brooks2012#
>
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California USA
> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
>
>
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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Wed Aug  1 15:45:51 2012
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 15:45:51 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Brooks pictures
Message-ID: <20120801.154627.1559.5003@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>

I was on Stover overload George.  Michael Christie asked about the 3hp. 
Great show.


Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell

On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 10:27:16 -0500 "Best, George" <George.Best at adp.com>
writes:
> The 3hp Gade in the photos is mine and was my 9v battery experiment 
> during the show.
> I ran the Gade non-stop for 8 hours on Saturday and non-stop for 9 
> hours on Sunday running on a disposable 9 volt battery.
> I had previously run the engine 1.5 hours on the same battery and at 
> the end of the show it still had 8 volts!
> 
> I'm sure that a little 9v battery is sufficient to run a hit&miss 
> ignitor fired engine that is not working for several engine shows.
> Especially if you don't run your engine non-stop like I was doing.
> 
> The red 4hp tank cooled Stover with the embossed cylinder is also my 
> engine.  It is a 1903 engine, while the two square push rod engines 
> at the show are probably 1902.
> The square pushrod engines do not have serial numbers or Stover tags 
> and are most likely prototype engines that Stover tested at a ranch 
> in Oregon.  Both engines were found on the same ranch.
> So I didn't have the oldest Stover at the show, but I did have the 
> oldest one with a serial number (1887) and brass tag at the show.
> 
> Ron didn't include a photo of it, but I also had my 3hp tank cooled 
> Stover W at the show.  The tank cooled W engines where custom made 
> by Stover and were all shipped to Australia.  There are only about a 
> dozen of these tank cooled engines in the Cooper registry.  I had 
> the engine shipped from Australia, so most likely it is the only one 
> in North America.
> 
> George
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From rotigel at me.com  Wed Aug  1 19:04:32 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 22:04:32 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Tri-State / Portland show NEW info for this year
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Hi Roger,
On Jul 30, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Roger DiRuscio wrote:

> Do the people showing also pay a fee?
NO.
> I have never been to this show.
> wouldn't be better to charge a few bucks more in the show area and let folks 
> sell?
Your question shows that you have never been to the show! Why not join us this year and see what the BIGGEST engine show in the world is all sbout?
> I go to shows looking for my next treasure and spend very little time 
> looking at other peoples stuff.
If ~10a. of engine related "stuff" in the sale area is not enough for you then you walk a hell of a lot faster than I do--and you are walking so fast that you are missing a lot!
> Guess I selfish also
Every human action that has ever been taken is based in selfishness. (Also, if you understand logic then remember that if everything is black then nothing is black!)
	Dave
PS, You should also try Coolspring next year!

> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 6:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Tri-State / Portland show NEW info for this year
> 
> 
>> 
>> On Jul 28, 2012, at 7:59 AM, Doug Tallman wrote:
>> 
>>> I knew the directors quit after last year but
>>> aren't directors voted in by the members?
>> I believe that is the case
>>> If you were to run for a
>>> director's position, shouldn't you be ready to accept any of the
>>> thankless jobs required?
>> Have you ever worked with volunteers Doug? I would think not!
>>> If nobody volunteered, why wasn't someone
>>> chosen or delegated?
>> I'm not sure it would be a good idea to have someone in gharge who did not 
>> want the job.
>>> The flip side is that there were a lot of people
>>> that depended on the trading post for some additional cash during the
>>> show and as a way to sell a few small items without having to rent a
>>> vendor's space.
>> I'm a life member of Tri-State and it never crossed my mind to volunteer 
>> for the job. Thinking about it now I guess I'm simply too selfish of my 
>> time to give up that much of it for others. Have you thought about 
>> volunteering for the job Doug?
>>> Letting people sell a few items from their display would
>>> increase the traffic in the display area but where would they draw the
>>> line there?
>> Good point. I think it would simply get the venders who paid REALLY 
>> PISSED!
>>> A consignment auction won't be a bad thing but it will need
>>> to be held before the last day to work out. I still think its going to
>>> be an interesting year. Doug T
>> It's ALWAYS a GREAT show!
>> Dave
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> jnyost at yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> Are the butt buggy fees increasing? If so how much?
>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Saw that in the newsletter. Do you suppose the butt buggy fees are
>>>> covering the loss of revenue? Will we see the east end vendors area
>>>> expand some more? It's going to be interesting seeing how this will work
>>>> out. Doug T
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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From sewell at ohio.edu  Thu Aug  2 13:07:15 2012
From: sewell at ohio.edu (Sewell, Steven)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 16:07:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] [AT] George Willer Auction
Message-ID: <8F21D1084E187F4EAE2C050F483B839A093A1301@EXMAIL2.ohio.edu>

http://www.bakerbonnigson.com/auctions.php


Auctions are listed by date. Oct. 6, 2012
 This is the first of two auctions that Marilyn is going to have.

Steve Sewell
Albany, Ohio USA
sewell at ohio.edu
sewell at atis.net


From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Thu Aug  2 15:10:33 2012
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 16:10:33 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Brooks pictures
In-Reply-To: <20120731.175839.1659.24226@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20120731.175839.1659.24226@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <SNT143-ds12404FFE86957F21C74C43BBCB0@phx.gbl>

Thanks much Ron!!!  Hopefully one of these days.

RickinMt.





----- Original Message ----- 
From: <rdhaskell at juno.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:58 PM
Subject: [SEL] Brooks pictures


> Hi all.
> Last weekend I visited the show in Brooks Oregon.  Beautiful weather and
> engines, display area is top notch.  Pictures at:
> https://picasaweb.google.com/104862591013550196821/Brooks2012#
> 
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California USA
> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
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From jbcast at charter.net  Sun Aug  5 03:47:34 2012
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 06:47:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Lost a friend
Message-ID: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>


Dickie Gibbens died yesterday a 3PM at his home. He fell Monday and 
fractured his skull, never recovered. He was on the list years ago, 
attended Portland with us many times. He got me started in the old 
engine hobby and I can say my life is better for having met him, I'll 
miss him.
J.B. Castagnos


From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sun Aug  5 04:03:26 2012
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 21:03:26 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Lost a friend
In-Reply-To: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>
References: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>
Message-ID: <E6BC3A582C7D45BAA99AC470BA5E7566@PeterPC>

Hi JB
Sorry to here that and my condolences to the family. I have corresponded 
with Dick in the past.
Nice guy.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia


Dickie Gibbens died yesterday a 3PM at his home. He fell Monday and
fractured his skull, never recovered. He was on the list years ago,
attended Portland with us many times. He got me started in the old
engine hobby and I can say my life is better for having met him, I'll
miss him.
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From wilson at stny.rr.com  Sun Aug  5 05:45:43 2012
From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 08:45:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 60HP Fairbanks Semi-Diesel $1,000
Message-ID: <86A868CC-F390-4FEA-8798-856F9F78394A@stny.rr.com>

Life changes over time. As most of you know, my father and I drove to Arkansas to pick this engine up. It is now in Endicott, NY horizontal on a 12 ton trailer. The piston if froze (rusted) bottom dead center. I never tried to free it. The engine is missing unknown parts to make it run. I have a good grand into it. I think it weighs about 10 tons but not sure. Locally iron scraps fro 10 cents. I would rather see it go to an engine gut than the scrap yard. I'd let the trailer go for another $500. It is a 1972 8 wheel with a registration. I have no way to pick the engine up. In AR, I hired a crane. There are cranes around but I don't know what they charge. 

Sad to see it go but I am facing reality. 

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone


From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com  Sun Aug  5 06:20:24 2012
From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 09:20:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] 60HP Fairbanks Semi-Diesel $1,000
Message-ID: <b2d0.61086e61.3d4fcd17@aol.com>

Glenn
 
Do you have any photos of the engine?
 
Kevin K 
 
 
In a message dated 8/5/2012 8:50:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
wilson at stny.rr.com writes:

Life  changes over time. As most of you know, my father and I drove to 
Arkansas to  pick this engine up. It is now in Endicott, NY horizontal on a 12 
ton trailer.  The piston if froze (rusted) bottom dead center. I never tried 
to free it. The  engine is missing unknown parts to make it run. I have a 
good grand into it. I  think it weighs about 10 tons but not sure. Locally 
iron scraps fro 10 cents.  I would rather see it go to an engine gut than the 
scrap yard. I'd let the  trailer go for another $500. It is a 1972 8 wheel 
with a registration. I have  no way to pick the engine up. In AR, I hired a 
crane. There are cranes around  but I don't know what they charge. 

Sad to see it go but I am facing  reality. 

Glenn Wilson
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From wilson at stny.rr.com  Sun Aug  5 06:52:18 2012
From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 09:52:18 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 60HP Fairbanks Semi-Diesel $1,000
In-Reply-To: <b2d0.61086e61.3d4fcd17@aol.com>
References: <b2d0.61086e61.3d4fcd17@aol.com>
Message-ID: <FEF42FB8-2F39-4E18-907A-8368D60EF7BB@stny.rr.com>

Yes. Let me find them and I'll put them on the net. The trailer, by the way, is a 1970 General". About 15 years ago, I completely fixed it up with re-greasing the bearings new lights and paint but since then it has sat here. It dies have a registration. 

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:20 AM, BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote:

Glenn

Do you have any photos of the engine?

Kevin K 


In a message dated 8/5/2012 8:50:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
wilson at stny.rr.com writes:

Life  changes over time. As most of you know, my father and I drove to 
Arkansas to  pick this engine up. It is now in Endicott, NY horizontal on a 12 
ton trailer.  The piston if froze (rusted) bottom dead center. I never tried 
to free it. The  engine is missing unknown parts to make it run. I have a 
good grand into it. I  think it weighs about 10 tons but not sure. Locally 
iron scraps fro 10 cents.  I would rather see it go to an engine gut than the 
scrap yard. I'd let the  trailer go for another $500. It is a 1972 8 wheel 
with a registration. I have  no way to pick the engine up. In AR, I hired a 
crane. There are cranes around  but I don't know what they charge. 

Sad to see it go but I am facing  reality. 

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my  iPhone
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From asouth42 at embarqmail.com  Sun Aug  5 08:26:24 2012
From: asouth42 at embarqmail.com (Arthur Southwell)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 11:26:24 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Lost a friend
In-Reply-To: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>
References: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>
Message-ID: <99DCFB47CE1A4B39987D00D932A2C26E@ArthurHP2>

JB,

I'm sorry to learn of Dick's passing. I always enjoyed talking with him when 
ever we would meet, be it at The Fla. Flywheelers show in Fla. or the 
Portland show in IN.

I'm sorry I didn't get to any of the LA shows while he was alive. My 
condolences to his family and many friends.

R.I.P. Dick.

Arthur Southwell
Arcadia, FL

-----Original Message----- 
From: jbcast at charter.net
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 6:47 AM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Lost a friend


Dickie Gibbens died yesterday a 3PM at his home. He fell Monday and
fractured his skull, never recovered. He was on the list years ago,
attended Portland with us many times. He got me started in the old
engine hobby and I can say my life is better for having met him, I'll
miss him.
J.B. Castagnos
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From rob at rustyiron.com  Sun Aug  5 08:26:47 2012
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 08:26:47 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Lost a friend
In-Reply-To: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>
References: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>
Message-ID: <2DABC4CC-C840-482F-A04C-73E7555948C9@rustyiron.com>

That?s quite a shock, JB.
I wish his family and friends well at a challenging time.
For those of us who remain, enjoy every sandwich.

Rob














From wilson at stny.rr.com  Sun Aug  5 09:15:25 2012
From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 12:15:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 60HP pictures
In-Reply-To: <FEF42FB8-2F39-4E18-907A-8368D60EF7BB@stny.rr.com>
References: <b2d0.61086e61.3d4fcd17@aol.com>
	<FEF42FB8-2F39-4E18-907A-8368D60EF7BB@stny.rr.com>
Message-ID: <3F8B6B33-CA5E-4626-973C-1E544989D8C8@stny.rr.com>

http://www.wilsonswarbler.com/60hp-fairbanks.html?m

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Glenn Wilson <wilson at stny.rr.com> wrote:

Yes. Let me find them and I'll put them on the net. The trailer, by the way, is a 1970 General". About 15 years ago, I completely fixed it up with re-greasing the bearings new lights and paint but since then it has sat here. It dies have a registration. 

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:20 AM, BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote:

Glenn

Do you have any photos of the engine?

Kevin K 


In a message dated 8/5/2012 8:50:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
wilson at stny.rr.com writes:

Life  changes over time. As most of you know, my father and I drove to 
Arkansas to  pick this engine up. It is now in Endicott, NY horizontal on a 12 
ton trailer.  The piston if froze (rusted) bottom dead center. I never tried 
to free it. The  engine is missing unknown parts to make it run. I have a 
good grand into it. I  think it weighs about 10 tons but not sure. Locally 
iron scraps fro 10 cents.  I would rather see it go to an engine gut than the 
scrap yard. I'd let the  trailer go for another $500. It is a 1972 8 wheel 
with a registration. I have  no way to pick the engine up. In AR, I hired a 
crane. There are cranes around  but I don't know what they charge. 

Sad to see it go but I am facing  reality. 

Glenn Wilson
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From wilson at stny.rr.com  Sun Aug  5 11:47:43 2012
From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 14:47:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 60HP pictures
In-Reply-To: <3F8B6B33-CA5E-4626-973C-1E544989D8C8@stny.rr.com>
References: <b2d0.61086e61.3d4fcd17@aol.com>
	<FEF42FB8-2F39-4E18-907A-8368D60EF7BB@stny.rr.com>
	<3F8B6B33-CA5E-4626-973C-1E544989D8C8@stny.rr.com>
Message-ID: <33A8E45D-4A30-45AE-9F81-8A7FBB346AAC@stny.rr.com>

The 1970 trailer was completly gone through in 2002 in preparation for the AR trip so it was 10 years ago, not 15. 

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Glenn Wilson <wilson at stny.rr.com> wrote:

http://www.wilsonswarbler.com/60hp-fairbanks.html?m

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Glenn Wilson <wilson at stny.rr.com> wrote:

Yes. Let me find them and I'll put them on the net. The trailer, by the way, is a 1970 General". About 15 years ago, I completely fixed it up with re-greasing the bearings new lights and paint but since then it has sat here. It dies have a registration. 

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:20 AM, BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote:

Glenn

Do you have any photos of the engine?

Kevin K 


In a message dated 8/5/2012 8:50:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
wilson at stny.rr.com writes:

Life  changes over time. As most of you know, my father and I drove to 
Arkansas to  pick this engine up. It is now in Endicott, NY horizontal on a 12 
ton trailer.  The piston if froze (rusted) bottom dead center. I never tried 
to free it. The  engine is missing unknown parts to make it run. I have a 
good grand into it. I  think it weighs about 10 tons but not sure. Locally 
iron scraps fro 10 cents.  I would rather see it go to an engine gut than the 
scrap yard. I'd let the  trailer go for another $500. It is a 1972 8 wheel 
with a registration. I have  no way to pick the engine up. In AR, I hired a 
crane. There are cranes around  but I don't know what they charge. 

Sad to see it go but I am facing  reality. 

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my  iPhone
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From FRM8198 at aol.com  Sun Aug  5 13:14:18 2012
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 16:14:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] 60HP pictures
Message-ID: <166bf.4283a98c.3d502e1a@aol.com>

Thanks.
 
Francis Maciel
 
 
In a message dated 8/5/2012 9:20:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
wilson at stny.rr.com writes:

http://www.wilsonswarbler.com/60hp-fairbanks.html


From jbcast at charter.net  Sun Aug  5 18:25:51 2012
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 21:25:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] 60HP pictures
Message-ID: <31dd364f.2274b7.138f989c162.Webtop.45@charter.net>

There was an engine like this in an old pump shed, saw it about 15 years 
ago. It was torn apart, rod bearing was burnt, injection system was 
missing. My guess is it's still there, if parts are needed I'll try to 
get there again.
J.B. Castagnos

On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Glenn Wilson wrote:

> The 1970 trailer was completly gone through in 2002 in preparation for 
> the AR trip so it was 10 years ago, not 15.
> Glenn Wilson
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 5, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Glenn Wilson <wilson at stny.rr.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.wilsonswarbler.com/60hp-fairbanks.html?m
>
> Glenn Wilson
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Glenn Wilson <wilson at stny.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Yes. Let me find them and I'll put them on the net. The trailer, by 
> the way, is a 1970 General". About 15 years ago, I completely fixed it 
> up with re-greasing the bearings new lights and paint but since then 
> it has sat here. It dies have a registration.
> Glenn Wilson
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:20 AM, BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote:
>
> Glenn
>
> Do you have any photos of the engine?
>
> Kevin K
>
> In a message dated 8/5/2012 8:50:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> wilson at stny.rr.com writes:
>
> Life  changes over time. As most of you know, my father and I drove to 
> Arkansas to  pick this engine up. It is now in Endicott, NY horizontal 
> on a 12 ton trailer.  The piston if froze (rusted) bottom dead center. 
> I never tried to free it. The  engine is missing unknown parts to make 
> it run. I have a good grand into it. I  think it weighs about 10 tons 
> but not sure. Locally iron scraps fro 10 cents.  I would rather see it 
> go to an engine gut than the scrap yard. I'd let the  trailer go for 
> another $500. It is a 1972 8 wheel with a registration. I have  no way 
> to pick the engine up. In AR, I hired a crane. There are cranes around 
> but I don't know what they charge.
> Sad to see it go but I am facing  reality.
> Glenn Wilson
> Sent from my  iPhone
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From curt at rustyiron.com  Sun Aug  5 19:06:05 2012
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 22:06:05 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Lost a friend
In-Reply-To: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>
References: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>
Message-ID: <59e46b31516e7a89277b098b4666b478.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>

JB,
SO sorry to hear this. Dick was one of the first people I met in the
hobby, long before knowing anything about the SEL. I used to see and talk
with him at the Portland swap meet in the spring, long before the
Parkinson's began to take it's toll.
When our little group toured engine collections two years ago, I am
thankful you included Dick's place in the stops. He enjoyed having us all
there as much as we enjoying being there. Would never have guessed this
would be the last time many of us would see him. His wife was such a
wonderful host to us all, and breakfast on that gorgeous porch, surrounded
with wonderful friends is a wonderful memory I'll carry forever. Indeed we
will miss him.
Curt Holland



>
> Dickie Gibbens died yesterday a 3PM at his home. He fell Monday and
> fractured his skull, never recovered. He was on the list years ago,
> attended Portland with us many times. He got me started in the old
> engine hobby and I can say my life is better for having met him, I'll
> miss him.
> J.B. Castagnos
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>




From wilson at stny.rr.com  Sun Aug  5 19:07:41 2012
From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 22:07:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 60HP pictures
In-Reply-To: <31dd364f.2274b7.138f989c162.Webtop.45@charter.net>
References: <31dd364f.2274b7.138f989c162.Webtop.45@charter.net>
Message-ID: <351332AC-F358-4B11-B1FC-548A2A666E10@stny.rr.com>

That engine would sure help whomever ends up putting this one back together. 
Thank you. 

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:25 PM, jbcast at charter.net wrote:

There was an engine like this in an old pump shed, saw it about 15 years 
ago. It was torn apart, rod bearing was burnt, injection system was 
missing. My guess is it's still there, if parts are needed I'll try to 
get there again.
J.B. Castagnos

On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Glenn Wilson wrote:

> The 1970 trailer was completly gone through in 2002 in preparation for 
> the AR trip so it was 10 years ago, not 15.
> Glenn Wilson
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 5, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Glenn Wilson <wilson at stny.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> http://www.wilsonswarbler.com/60hp-fairbanks.html?m
> 
> Glenn Wilson
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Glenn Wilson <wilson at stny.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes. Let me find them and I'll put them on the net. The trailer, by 
> the way, is a 1970 General". About 15 years ago, I completely fixed it 
> up with re-greasing the bearings new lights and paint but since then 
> it has sat here. It dies have a registration.
> Glenn Wilson
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:20 AM, BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote:
> 
> Glenn
> 
> Do you have any photos of the engine?
> 
> Kevin K
> 
> In a message dated 8/5/2012 8:50:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> wilson at stny.rr.com writes:
> 
> Life  changes over time. As most of you know, my father and I drove to 
> Arkansas to  pick this engine up. It is now in Endicott, NY horizontal 
> on a 12 ton trailer.  The piston if froze (rusted) bottom dead center. 
> I never tried to free it. The  engine is missing unknown parts to make 
> it run. I have a good grand into it. I  think it weighs about 10 tons 
> but not sure. Locally iron scraps fro 10 cents.  I would rather see it 
> go to an engine gut than the scrap yard. I'd let the  trailer go for 
> another $500. It is a 1972 8 wheel with a registration. I have  no way 
> to pick the engine up. In AR, I hired a crane. There are cranes around 
> but I don't know what they charge.
> Sad to see it go but I am facing  reality.
> Glenn Wilson
> Sent from my  iPhone
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From rotigel at me.com  Mon Aug  6 05:17:39 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 08:17:39 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Lost a friend
In-Reply-To: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>
References: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>
Message-ID: <B21F3214-0617-4FC2-98D4-1469CA446A3A@me.com>

Dickie was a good man. HE WILL BE MISSED!
	Dave

On Aug 5, 2012, at 6:47 AM, jbcast at charter.net wrote:

> 
> Dickie Gibbens died yesterday a 3PM at his home. He fell Monday and 
> fractured his skull, never recovered. He was on the list years ago, 
> attended Portland with us many times. He got me started in the old 
> engine hobby and I can say my life is better for having met him, I'll 
> miss him.
> J.B. Castagnos


From frappi at wcoil.com  Mon Aug  6 06:04:57 2012
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 09:04:57 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Magneto Application
In-Reply-To: <282E0DC5-94C7-429D-866B-4D08DB613111@me.com>
References: <8F21D1084E187F4EAE2C050F483B839A093A12FA@EXMAIL2.ohio.edu>
	<5013653E.5050105@accnorwalk.com>
	<604942240-1343471012-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-396895150-@b27.c17.bise6.blackberry>
	<5013D406.7070905@accnorwalk.com>
	<0244723E-B2B7-420A-A18D-B9F720F0EA75@me.com>
	<087471EB2AE94FF7B04320350B3C84EC@RogerDiRusciPC>
	<282E0DC5-94C7-429D-866B-4D08DB613111@me.com>
Message-ID: <20120806130454.6B04A9DE4@smtp.wcoil.com>



Hi All, I have a Webster SE3 Magneto and I would like to hear about 
what these were used on. Thanks,  Mark




Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home
Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere
and Hercules Engines.
Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com  



From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Tue Aug  7 06:25:19 2012
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 07:25:19 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Rod end babbitt in 3hp Galloway
Message-ID: <SNT143-ds1EED620E2904B0F415121BBCE0@phx.gbl>


  G'day all;
  Well I finally got a rod and piston for the "Bulldog" Galloway and it has 
no babbitt on either side.  I'm at a loss here as I've never started from 
scratch so going to need some help.  I have poured mains and such but never 
done a rod.

  Any help would greatly be appreciated.

Best regards,
RickinMt. 



From curt at rustyiron.com  Tue Aug  7 18:45:29 2012
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 21:45:29 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Rod end babbitt in 3hp Galloway
In-Reply-To: <SNT143-ds1EED620E2904B0F415121BBCE0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT143-ds1EED620E2904B0F415121BBCE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <ee8fc423cd8f0ef9e366364c11c563ee.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>


Rick,
On this link scroll down to the 6/24/05 date. There are 8 photos of
pouring the Babbitt in the big end. It's still running great.

<http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/DevinsBakerMonitorRebuild/Thumbnails.html>

Curt Holland
Bessemer City, NC


>
>   G'day all;
>   Well I finally got a rod and piston for the "Bulldog" Galloway and it
> has
> no babbitt on either side.  I'm at a loss here as I've never started from
> scratch so going to need some help.  I have poured mains and such but
> never
> done a rod.
>
>   Any help would greatly be appreciated.
>
> Best regards,
> RickinMt.
>
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From kast13iron at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  9 18:21:13 2012
From: kast13iron at yahoo.com (J)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 18:21:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Magneto Application
In-Reply-To: <20120806130454.6B04A9DE4@smtp.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <1344561673.37703.YahooMailClassic@web140701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Mark, Can you send or post some pics of this mag ? Is it rotary or oscillating ??? Low or high tension ??? Want to see pic from base bottom, how it mounts & other sides also.? I may have an educated guess for you if can see pic, another collector & I were just discussing a probably similar mag last Sat & our versions differ due to mounting ???
?
John
?
?
?
?
--- On Mon, 8/6/12, Mark Shulaw <frappi at wcoil.com> wrote:


From: Mark Shulaw <frappi at wcoil.com>
Subject: [SEL] Magneto Application
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Monday, August 6, 2012, 1:04 PM




Hi All, I have a Webster SE3 Magneto and I would like to hear about 
what these were used on. Thanks,? Mark




Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206? Home
Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere
and Hercules Engines.
Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at? www.Maytagclub.com? 

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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Thu Aug  9 20:00:29 2012
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 21:00:29 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Rod end babbitt in 3hp Galloway
In-Reply-To: <SNT143-ds1EED620E2904B0F415121BBCE0@phx.gbl>
	<ee8fc423cd8f0ef9e366364c11c563ee.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
References: <SNT143-ds1EED620E2904B0F415121BBCE0@phx.gbl>
	<ee8fc423cd8f0ef9e366364c11c563ee.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
Message-ID: <SNT143-ds217A915F28B579D075D609BBB30@phx.gbl>

Thanks Curt...gear mesh was something I would have not considered.

Rick


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <curt at rustyiron.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Rod end babbitt in 3hp Galloway


>
> Rick,
> On this link scroll down to the 6/24/05 date. There are 8 photos of
> pouring the Babbitt in the big end. It's still running great.
>
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/DevinsBakerMonitorRebuild/Thumbnails.html>
>
> Curt Holland
> Bessemer City, NC
>
>
> >
> >   G'day all;
> >   Well I finally got a rod and piston for the "Bulldog" Galloway and it
> > has
> > no babbitt on either side.  I'm at a loss here as I've never started 
> > from
> > scratch so going to need some help.  I have poured mains and such but
> > never
> > done a rod.
> >
> >   Any help would greatly be appreciated.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > RickinMt.
> >
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From Germoamer at aol.com  Fri Aug 10 08:23:04 2012
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:23:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] steam engine for sale
Message-ID: <3fa84.783a3724.3d568158@aol.com>

_http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/atq/3195806750.html_ 
(http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/atq/3195806750.html) 
 
Anybody interested in a steam engine?  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord, Va.  
germoamer at aol.com


From edstoller at earthlink.net  Fri Aug 10 08:46:50 2012
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed Stoller)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:46:50 -0400
Subject: [SEL] steam engine for sale
References: <3fa84.783a3724.3d568158@aol.com>
Message-ID: <9A9683830ED14D678950E9F7CCB05EAA@edlaptop>

I have a little steam engine I plan to bring to Portland, Ind and need an 
air source to run it. I can send the details off list.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield,  CT,   USA
www.enginesandmagnets.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Germoamer at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 11:23 AM
Subject: [SEL] steam engine for sale


> _http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/atq/3195806750.html_
> (http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/atq/3195806750.html)
>
> Anybody interested in a steam engine?
>
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord, Va.
> germoamer at aol.com
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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sat Aug 11 10:09:51 2012
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:09:51 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Innovative hybrid technology
Message-ID: <20120811.100956.1558.28572@mailpop09.vgs.untd.com>








Be sure and watch the video too.

On the plus side.

Affordable
Can retrofit to existing cars.
Separate system from existing drive train.

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/06/student-hybrid-car-project-coul
d-bring-millions-to-tennessee-university/?intcmp=features
____________________________________________________________
Woman is 57 But Looks 27
Mom publishes simple facelift trick that angered doctors...
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5026921249316121229b0st01vuc

From rotigel at me.com  Sat Aug 11 12:08:36 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:08:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Innovative hybrid technology
In-Reply-To: <20120811.100956.1558.28572@mailpop09.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20120811.100956.1558.28572@mailpop09.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <DEF52E84-5EAE-44A6-AEA1-5B6CACEDD1E7@me.com>

WOW Ron and a "range of 30 to 35 miles per charge."
	Dave
PS, Please contact me off list. I have a bridge for sale!
PPS, I'll pass on the electric motor add on but could well be interested in the 57 year old women who looks 27. Please send pictures.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/06/student-hybrid-car-project-could-bring-millions-to-tennessee-university/?intcmp=features#ixzz23GXVGbfV
On Aug 11, 2012, at 1:09 PM, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Be sure and watch the video too.
> 
> On the plus side.
> 
> Affordable
> Can retrofit to existing cars.
> Separate system from existing drive train.
> 
> http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/06/student-hybrid-car-project-coul
> d-bring-millions-to-tennessee-university/?intcmp=features
> ____________________________________________________________
> Woman is 57 But Looks 27
> Mom publishes simple facelift trick that angered doctors...
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5026921249316121229b0st01vuc



From rotigel at me.com  Sun Aug 12 05:21:19 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 08:21:19 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Room
Message-ID: <AC25E9D8-3B03-4570-8008-C400323E3B70@me.com>

Hi Gang,
	 It appears that I have reservations for an extra room at Portland at the Super 8 for August 20th (Mon.) through August 25th (leaving Sunday morning.) If anyone needs this room let me know ASAP. If I hear nothing by tomorrow evening I will call Rag and tell him that the room is no longer needed. You can contact me off list at: rotigel at me.com



From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 12 05:34:56 2012
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 05:34:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Innovative hybrid technology
In-Reply-To: <DEF52E84-5EAE-44A6-AEA1-5B6CACEDD1E7@me.com>
Message-ID: <1344774896.94103.YahooMailClassic@web111720.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

What put it in the trash can for me was the, "speeds below 45 mph".
Sure if you live in a large city and only use it there,,,,,,,,
Speed limit between here and town is 55 MPH but my F-150 would get run over if I drove that speed. Just driving with the pack I hit 70 to 75 MPH every morning.
?
Alan in Michigan
?

--- On Sat, 8/11/12, Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:


From: Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Innovative hybrid technology
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, August 11, 2012, 3:08 PM


WOW Ron and a "range of 30 to 35 miles per charge."
??? Dave
PS, Please contact me off list. I have a bridge for sale!
PPS, I'll pass on the electric motor add on but could well be interested in the 57 year old women who looks 27. Please send pictures.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/06/student-hybrid-car-project-could-bring-millions-to-tennessee-university/?intcmp=features#ixzz23GXVGbfV
On Aug 11, 2012, at 1:09 PM, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Be sure and watch the video too.
> 
> On the plus side.
> 
> Affordable
> Can retrofit to existing cars.
> Separate system from existing drive train.
> 
> http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/06/student-hybrid-car-project-coul
> d-bring-millions-to-tennessee-university/?intcmp=features
> ____________________________________________________________
> Woman is 57 But Looks 27
> Mom publishes simple facelift trick that angered doctors...
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5026921249316121229b0st01vuc

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From rotigel at me.com  Sun Aug 12 13:37:27 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:37:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] guns welcome sign
In-Reply-To: <FA0DD6AD-2051-48B4-8E45-2033444C33B5@me.com>
References: <2ED9ABA1577C4B1E86F509E7EA1AD398@JIMDUNMYER>
	<FA0DD6AD-2051-48B4-8E45-2033444C33B5@me.com>
Message-ID: <14D35542-4D7E-45FE-A2E3-2D40D962D244@me.com>

I will have laminated copies for anyone who wants them at Baraboo and Portland!
	Dave

On Jul 31, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote:

> Decided that I wanted one and BINGO I found it. And not that expensive either! See: http://www.compliancesigns.com/NHE-16347.shtml THANKS Jim!
> 	Dave
> 
> On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Jim Dunmyer wrote:
> 
>> see: http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2012/07/a_nice_welcomin.php
>>  
>>  
> 



From Germoamer at aol.com  Mon Aug 13 04:51:19 2012
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 07:51:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] olympics OT
Message-ID: <a5c25.72f3cbe0.3d5a4436@aol.com>

Congratulations to the Britts on the fantastic Olympic  games.  Such great 
talented people from the "flying squirrel" from Virginia  to the "blade 
runner" from South Africa and all others from all over the world  showing off 
their years of training and dedication to the sports.  Must be  a tremendous 
feeling to be the top persons/groups in the world with the winning  of the 
medals.  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord, Va.  
germoamer at aol.com


From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Mon Aug 13 06:04:53 2012
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:04:53 +0100
Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Re=3A__olympics_OT?=
In-Reply-To: <a5c25.72f3cbe0.3d5a4436@aol.com>
References: <a5c25.72f3cbe0.3d5a4436@aol.com>
Message-ID: <7B54C84082BC4B058F18D908C61B3C71@BTDAVEPC>

Hi Tom, We English have hoped for a secure event & think we managed it!
(I hope the start & finish shows didn't cause too much mental damage).
The main effect seems to have people using strange arm waving in the street,
See
http://media.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/selections/mo-and-usains-doubletribute-3551620.html

--------------------------------------------------
From: <Germoamer at aol.com>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 12:51 PM
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: [SEL] olympics OT

> Congratulations to the Britts on the fantastic Olympic  games.  Such great
> talented people from the "flying squirrel" from Virginia  to the "blade
> runner" from South Africa and all others from all over the world  showing
> off
> their years of training and dedication to the sports.  Must be  a
> tremendous
> feeling to be the top persons/groups in the world with the winning  of the
> medals.
>
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord, Va.
> germoamer at aol.com
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 13 06:43:28 2012
From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:43:28 +0000
Subject: [SEL] olympics OT
In-Reply-To: <a5c25.72f3cbe0.3d5a4436@aol.com>
References: <a5c25.72f3cbe0.3d5a4436@aol.com>
Message-ID: <SNT107-W34631C1160FECBF14C14BBD0B00@phx.gbl>


There is a lot of feeling that it was an elitist affair considering the ticket charges and allotment.  It has plunged our country into further Ziodept and the promised financial profits have been so far negative.   John

> From: Germoamer at aol.com
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 07:51:19 -0400
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] olympics OT
> 
> Congratulations to the Britts on the fantastic Olympic  games.  Such great 
> talented people from the "flying squirrel" from Virginia  to the "blade 
> runner" from South Africa and all others from all over the world  showing off 
> their years of training and dedication to the sports.  Must be  a tremendous 
> feeling to be the top persons/groups in the world with the winning  of the 
> medals.  
> 
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord, Va.  
> germoamer at aol.com
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From frappi at wcoil.com  Mon Aug 13 08:13:43 2012
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:13:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Magneto Application
In-Reply-To: <1344561673.37703.YahooMailClassic@web140701.mail.bf1.yahoo .com>
References: <20120806130454.6B04A9DE4@smtp.wcoil.com>
	<1344561673.37703.YahooMailClassic@web140701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20120813151340.96E76A05F@smtp.wcoil.com>


Its been said to be a Mag for the Ignitor fired two cylinder Edwards 
Engine Springfield Ohio


At 09:21 PM 8/9/2012, you wrote:
>Mark, Can you send or post some pics of this mag ? Is it rotary or 
>oscillating ?   Low or high tension ?   Want to see pic from base 
>bottom, how it mounts & other sides also.  I may have an educated 
>guess for you if can see pic, another collector & I were just 
>discussing a probably similar mag last Sat & our versions differ due 
>to mounting ???
>
>John
>
>
>
>
>--- On Mon, 8/6/12, Mark Shulaw <frappi at wcoil.com> wrote:
>
>
>From: Mark Shulaw <frappi at wcoil.com>
>Subject: [SEL] Magneto Application
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Date: Monday, August 6, 2012, 1:04 PM
>
>
>
>
>Hi All, I have a Webster SE3 Magneto and I would like to hear about
>what these were used on. Thanks,  Mark
>
>
>
>
>Mark Shulaw
>454 County Road 33
>Bluffton, OH. 45817
>USA
>
>Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home
>Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere
>and Hercules Engines.
>Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
>VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home
Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere
and Hercules Engines.
Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com  



From rob at rustyiron.com  Mon Aug 13 09:30:14 2012
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:30:14 -0700
Subject: [SEL] It's HOT out!
Message-ID: <6BD57660-2000-462E-BEA0-20A47255DCBB@rustyiron.com>

We?re in the middle of summer. The lawn needs mowing, the house needs painting, and the engines need cleaning. Are you taking care of yourself when you?re out there in the blazing sun? The vast majority of people live their lives in a perpetual state of under-hydration, which can lead to a long list of medical maladies and can become deadly in the heat of summer. 

A person working or playing in the heat can require a quart of water per hour. Many people don?t consume a quart of water per DAY, which makes them extremely susceptible to heat related illness. 

Maintaining optimum health during periods of high temperatures requires more than common sense. It requires proper planning, attention to physical symptoms, and intelligent response to those symptoms. 

Here is a little more on the subject:
http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/enviromentalissues/a/Exercise_Heat.htm

Let?s all enjoy our summer, our engine shows, our play time, and let?s do it in good health. 

--
Rob Skinner
www.rustyiron.com







From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Aug 13 11:03:18 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:03:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] It's HOT out!
In-Reply-To: <6BD57660-2000-462E-BEA0-20A47255DCBB@rustyiron.com>
References: <6BD57660-2000-462E-BEA0-20A47255DCBB@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <44b705383de986316b52ad3ac35aa8d1.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

Rob,

As we're coming up on two major engine shows; Baraboo & Portland, this is
VERY timely advice.  I'd like to share some of the tips that Dave and
I have developed over the years of attending engine shows.

Rule 1:  Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate.  We typically bring LARGE coolers
that will hold at least two cases of beer.  There is nothing worse than
running out and risking dehydration.

Rule 2:  Avoid Hyponatremia by drinking beer instead of water.  To insure
an adequate intake of sodium be sure to eat lots of chips (crisps for the
Brits & Ozzies).
http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/hydrationandfluid/a/Hyponatremia.htm

Rule 3:  Minimize physical activity.  When going to a series of long
engine shows, bring your most reliable engines.  That way you do the
strenuous starting work early in the morning while it's cool.  The
engines then run all day and you can sit in the shade, hydrate, and
watch the pretty young women walking by.  Also plan to walk the sales
area during the morning when it's cooler.

With proper attention to these details, one can enjoy the engine shows
and not run the risks of under-hydration.

See ya,  Arnie

On Mon, August 13, 2012 12:30 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:
> We?re in the middle of summer. The lawn needs mowing, the house needs
> painting, and the engines need cleaning. Are you taking care of yourself
> when you?re out there in the blazing sun? The vast majority of people live
> their lives in a perpetual state of under-hydration, which can lead to a
> long list of medical maladies and can become deadly in the heat of summer.
>
> A person working or playing in the heat can require a quart of water per
> hour. Many people don?t consume a quart of water per DAY, which makes them
> extremely susceptible to heat related illness.
>
> Maintaining optimum health during periods of high temperatures requires
> more than common sense. It requires proper planning, attention to physical
> symptoms, and intelligent response to those symptoms.
>
> Here is a little more on the subject:
> http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/enviromentalissues/a/Exercise_Heat.htm
>
> Let?s all enjoy our summer, our engine shows, our play time, and let?s do
> it in good health.




From rob at rustyiron.com  Mon Aug 13 12:30:27 2012
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:30:27 -0700
Subject: [SEL] It's HOT out!
In-Reply-To: <44b705383de986316b52ad3ac35aa8d1.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <6BD57660-2000-462E-BEA0-20A47255DCBB@rustyiron.com>
	<44b705383de986316b52ad3ac35aa8d1.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <ECECDA80-9B0B-4772-B639-561145E54FA5@rustyiron.com>


On Aug 13, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
> The engines then run all day and you can sit in the shade, hydrate, and
> watch the pretty young women walking by. 


Arnie, Arnie, Arnie? Have you forgotten everything that I taught you?

Here in SoCal, we believe that sharing is caring. We would NEVER sit idle as the pretty young women walked by. We would invite them into our display area and offer them cool beverages from our beer coolers to keep them hydrated. And if they need further cooling by dampening their t-shirts, we would assist in that area, as well. It?s the gentlemanly thing to do. 







From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Aug 13 13:23:51 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:23:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] It's HOT out!
In-Reply-To: <ECECDA80-9B0B-4772-B639-561145E54FA5@rustyiron.com>
References: <6BD57660-2000-462E-BEA0-20A47255DCBB@rustyiron.com>
	<44b705383de986316b52ad3ac35aa8d1.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
	<ECECDA80-9B0B-4772-B639-561145E54FA5@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <7dbfa382d8d0d3336df54155d16e9111.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

Rob, Rob, Rob,

OF COURSE we do all that stuff.  What do you think we are, cretins?
I just didn't want to mention it thereby causing all of the OTHER engine
folk out there to begin to do the same.

Thanks for crushing our monopoly....

See ya,  Arnie

On Mon, August 13, 2012 3:30 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:
>
> On Aug 13, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
>> The engines then run all day and you can sit in the shade, hydrate, and
>> watch the pretty young women walking by.
>
>
> Arnie, Arnie, Arnie
 Have you forgotten everything that I taught you?
>
> Here in SoCal, we believe that sharing is caring. We would NEVER sit idle
> as the pretty young women walked by. We would invite them into our display
> area and offer them cool beverages from our beer coolers to keep them
> hydrated. And if they need further cooling by dampening their t-shirts, we
> would assist in that area, as well. It?s the gentlemanly thing to do.




From rob at rustyiron.com  Mon Aug 13 13:37:31 2012
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:37:31 -0700
Subject: [SEL] It's HOT out!
In-Reply-To: <7dbfa382d8d0d3336df54155d16e9111.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <6BD57660-2000-462E-BEA0-20A47255DCBB@rustyiron.com>
	<44b705383de986316b52ad3ac35aa8d1.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
	<ECECDA80-9B0B-4772-B639-561145E54FA5@rustyiron.com>
	<7dbfa382d8d0d3336df54155d16e9111.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <14AE2D81-A3AB-4A29-A3D7-197C864B3272@rustyiron.com>


On Aug 13, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
> 
> OF COURSE we do all that stuff.  What do you think we are, cretins?
> I just didn't want to mention it thereby causing all of the OTHER engine
> folk out there to begin to do the same.
> 
> Thanks for crushing our monopoly....


Don?t sweat it, bro. When you possess savoir faire and good looks, as we do, those other guys don?t stand a chance.





From Frank at lbpinc.com  Tue Aug 14 09:06:24 2012
From: Frank at lbpinc.com (Frank DeWitt LBP)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:06:24 -0400
Subject: [SEL] olympics OT
In-Reply-To: <SNT107-W34631C1160FECBF14C14BBD0B00@phx.gbl>
References: <a5c25.72f3cbe0.3d5a4436@aol.com>
	<SNT107-W34631C1160FECBF14C14BBD0B00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <502A7780.102@lbpinc.com>

Has any country ever made money by hosting the Olympics?

Frank

On 8/13/2012 9:43 AM, john palmer wrote:
> There is a lot of feeling that it was an elitist affair considering the ticket charges and allotment.  It has plunged our country into further Ziodept and the promised financial profits have been so far negative.   John
>
>    
>> From: Germoamer at aol.com
>> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 07:51:19 -0400
>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> Subject: [SEL] olympics OT
>>
>> Congratulations to the Britts on the fantastic Olympic  games.  Such great
>> talented people from the "flying squirrel" from Virginia  to the "blade
>> runner" from South Africa and all others from all over the world  showing off
>> their years of training and dedication to the sports.  Must be  a tremendous
>> feeling to be the top persons/groups in the world with the winning  of the
>> medals.
>>
>> Tom  Schmutz
>> Concord, Va.
>> germoamer at aol.com
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From George.Best at adp.com  Tue Aug 14 09:43:17 2012
From: George.Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:43:17 -0500
Subject: [SEL] olympics OT
In-Reply-To: <502A7780.102@lbpinc.com>
References: <a5c25.72f3cbe0.3d5a4436@aol.com>
	<SNT107-W34631C1160FECBF14C14BBD0B00@phx.gbl> <502A7780.102@lbpinc.com>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD4148CDBE692@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Don't know that the country makes any money, but you can be sure that many businesses and people associated with the Olympics make a lot of money from it.

George


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Frank DeWitt LBP
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:06 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] olympics OT

Has any country ever made money by hosting the Olympics?

Frank

On 8/13/2012 9:43 AM, john palmer wrote:
> There is a lot of feeling that it was an elitist affair considering the ticket charges and allotment.  It has plunged our country into further Ziodept and the promised financial profits have been so far negative.   John
>
>    
>> From: Germoamer at aol.com
>> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 07:51:19 -0400
>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> Subject: [SEL] olympics OT
>>
>> Congratulations to the Britts on the fantastic Olympic  games.  Such 
>> great talented people from the "flying squirrel" from Virginia  to 
>> the "blade runner" from South Africa and all others from all over the 
>> world  showing off their years of training and dedication to the 
>> sports.  Must be  a tremendous feeling to be the top persons/groups 
>> in the world with the winning  of the medals.
>>
>> Tom  Schmutz
>> Concord, Va.
>> germoamer at aol.com
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From swebre at hotmail.com  Tue Aug 14 11:14:38 2012
From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:14:38 +0000
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 101, Issue 11
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2.1344960001.7314.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
References: <mailman.2.1344960001.7314.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <SNT125-W30E88F314094F106879FF7DBB70@phx.gbl>


Arnie, > Rule 3:  Minimize physical activity.  When going to a series of long engine shows, bring your most reliable engines.After watching you at the SIAM show, what are you babbling about?   You can't be talking about the Novo.   Remember what those two cute girls asked you? Go on.  Tell the group...  -Steve- 
  On Aug 13, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
> 
> OF COURSE we do all that stuff.  What do you think we are, cretins?
> I just didn't want to mention it thereby causing all of the OTHER engine
> folk out there to begin to do the same.
> 
> Thanks for crushing our monopoly....
 
 
Don?t sweat it, bro. When you possess savoir faire and good looks, as we do, those other guys don?t stand a chance.
 
 
 
 
 		 	   		  

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Aug 14 20:03:53 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 23:03:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 101, Issue 11
In-Reply-To: <SNT125-W30E88F314094F106879FF7DBB70@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.2.1344960001.7314.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
	<SNT125-W30E88F314094F106879FF7DBB70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <39989a3607eff4565ae6e14226eed230.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com>

SETUP!!  Pure SETUP!!

Simpering sweet young thing sidles up to the Novo and asks
ever so sweetly...  "Mister, do ANY of your engines run?"

While I'm up to my elbows in grease trying to get the fuel
pump check balls unstuck...

And that sound in the background you ask?
My best friends (back by the beer coolers).
Fortunately, caught on tape...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uSTOHa4Im4

See ya,  Arnie

On Tue, August 14, 2012 2:14 pm, Steve Webre wrote:
>
>> Arnie, > Rule 3:  Minimize physical activity.
>>  When going to a series of long engine shows,
>>  bring your most reliable engines.

> After watching you at the SIAM show, what are
> you babbling about?   You can't be talking about
> the Novo.  Remember what those two cute girls
> asked you? Go on.  Tell the group...  -Steve-





From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Wed Aug 15 06:57:43 2012
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:57:43 -0600
Subject: [SEL] New belting
Message-ID: <SNT143-ds168F42EB29EB958D49CEC2BBB60@phx.gbl>


 Howdee all;
   Need some belting for our Galloway Sawrig and we have no close supplier 
to our knowledge that's within reason.  Is there a supplier west of the big 
river that caters to our hobby?  H&M doesn't do too bad with $5.50 a foot 
for 6 inch.

  Just thought I'd ask first.

Regards,
RickinMt. 



From oldironnut at windstream.net  Wed Aug 15 12:55:56 2012
From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:55:56 -0400
Subject: [SEL] New belting
In-Reply-To: <SNT143-ds168F42EB29EB958D49CEC2BBB60@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT143-ds168F42EB29EB958D49CEC2BBB60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <73BE4D8A-9384-42B0-A65F-CF2FADD6AE64@windstream.net>

Rick,

If you want something that works great (but is not original equipment) go to a Tractor Supply and get the 6" wide flat belting for a round baler. It's the black rubber stuff that they sell by the foot.

Mike

On Aug 15, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Richard Strobel <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com> wrote:

> 
> Howdee all;
>   Need some belting for our Galloway Sawrig and we have no close supplier 
> to our knowledge that's within reason.  Is there a supplier west of the big 
> river that caters to our hobby?  H&M doesn't do too bad with $5.50 a foot 
> for 6 inch.
> 
>  Just thought I'd ask first.
> 
> Regards,
> RickinMt. 
> 
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From blcksmth at wcnet.org  Wed Aug 15 13:11:02 2012
From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:11:02 -0400
Subject: [SEL] New belting
In-Reply-To: <73BE4D8A-9384-42B0-A65F-CF2FADD6AE64@windstream.net>
References: <SNT143-ds168F42EB29EB958D49CEC2BBB60@phx.gbl>
	<73BE4D8A-9384-42B0-A65F-CF2FADD6AE64@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <502C0256.7060904@wcnet.org>

Our local Tractor Supply has discontinued the bulk baler belting in 7 
inch and 10 inch widths. They now have pre-cut lengths in both widths. 
I'm not sure what the fixed lengths are. The remaining bulk rolls were 
discounted last time I was there.

Bob Willman
The Eagle?s Anvil
Bowling Green, Ohio
WB8NQW

Before any man can be considered as a member of civil society,
he must be considered as a subject of the Governor of the Universe.

James Madison

On 8/15/2012 3:55 PM, Michael Tucker wrote:
> Rick,
>
> If you want something that works great (but is not original equipment) go to a Tractor Supply and get the 6" wide flat belting for a round baler. It's the black rubber stuff that they sell by the foot.
>
> Mike
>
> On Aug 15, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Richard Strobel <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com> wrote:
>
>> Howdee all;
>>    Need some belting for our Galloway Sawrig and we have no close supplier
>> to our knowledge that's within reason.  Is there a supplier west of the big
>> river that caters to our hobby?  H&M doesn't do too bad with $5.50 a foot
>> for 6 inch.
>>
>>   Just thought I'd ask first.
>>
>> Regards,
>> RickinMt.
>>
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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Thu Aug 16 07:52:35 2012
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 08:52:35 -0600
Subject: [SEL] New belting
In-Reply-To: <SNT143-ds168F42EB29EB958D49CEC2BBB60@phx.gbl>
	<502BAC01.1060004@fairpoint.net>
	<EB63FB5E-B124-4B5D-A75E-C53CDCA010A6@rustyiron.com>
References: <SNT143-ds168F42EB29EB958D49CEC2BBB60@phx.gbl>
	<502BAC01.1060004@fairpoint.net>
	<EB63FB5E-B124-4B5D-A75E-C53CDCA010A6@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <SNT143-ds20E3B8CAF4C27CE3FB188DBBB50@phx.gbl>

Thanks for the replies guys...very cool !!

Rob, thanks but I need 6"

Elden, I have no clue what SBR rubber is and leather stretch's something 
fierce.  I use McMaster all the time as their shipping to my door is less 
than I can drive to town and back.   Thanks much.

Rupert...I surely appreciate your offer...very nice.

  I went ahead and ordered from HitnMiss as I like catering to those 
suppliers who support our hobby.  Put past experiences to the wind and 
hopefully will get the belt in a timely matter.

Take care ya'll....life is good.

RickinMt.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Skinner" <rob at rustyiron.com>
To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: New belting


If you act fast?
http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=71346 



From George.Best at adp.com  Thu Aug 16 08:09:23 2012
From: George.Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:09:23 -0500
Subject: [SEL] National show - was   New belting
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD4148CFD66F1@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Rick,

Are you going to be at the EDGETA National show near Billings this weekend?

I'm leaving at 3am Friday morning to make the 915 mile trip as a straight shot.  Would have preferred making it a two day trip, but the guy going with me couldn't get today off from work.

I'll have my W.A.I.T. booth, plus (boo, hiss) will have my Empire tractor their too.
Not taking a flywheel engine along on this trip.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard Strobel
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 7:53 AM
To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] New belting

Thanks for the replies guys...very cool !!

Rob, thanks but I need 6"




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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Fri Aug 17 05:27:53 2012
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 06:27:53 -0600
Subject: [SEL] National show - was   New belting
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No..can't make it George.  Friend Corky Harris and Gary Yaeger will be 
there.

Drats,
Rick


----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:09 AM
Subject: [SEL] National show - was New belting


> Rick,
>
> Are you going to be at the EDGETA National show near Billings this 
> weekend?
>
> I'm leaving at 3am Friday morning to make the 915 mile trip as a straight 
> shot.  Would have preferred making it a two day trip, but the guy going 
> with me couldn't get today off from work.
>
> I'll have my W.A.I.T. booth, plus (boo, hiss) will have my Empire tractor 
> their too.
> Not taking a flywheel engine along on this trip.
>
> George
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard 
> Strobel
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 7:53 AM
> To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] New belting
>
> Thanks for the replies guys...very cool !!
>
> Rob, thanks but I need 6"
>
>
>
>
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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Fri Aug 17 07:15:39 2012
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:15:39 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Friction clutch pulley on Dave's Galloway 16
Message-ID: <SNT143-ds15F949F6C4AF15DF169462BBB40@phx.gbl>


  Thought I'd put this on the list Dave just in case someone else can help.

  Have you plans for a recast cover and hand wheel for the 16's friction 
clutch pulley?

http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/trailer/16_GallowayTrailer/MVC-455X.JPG

  We need both for our 9hp Gal.

  RickinMt.

 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Aug 18 16:13:03 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 19:13:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Friction clutch pulley on Dave's Galloway 16
Message-ID: <f5f1dad877870b6d1701e90b30d49d4b.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

Dave sez he doesn't have either the cover or the hand wheel, but would like
to buy one of each if someone does do castings.

See ya,  Arnie

On Fri, August 17, 2012 10:15 am, Richard Strobel wrote:
>
>   Thought I'd put this on the list Dave just in case someone else can
> help.
>
>   Have you plans for a recast cover and hand wheel for the 16's friction
> clutch pulley?
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/trailer/16_GallowayTrailer/MVC-455X.JPG
>
>   We need both for our 9hp Gal.
>
>   RickinMt.
>
>
>
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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Sun Aug 19 07:21:56 2012
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 08:21:56 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Friction clutch pulley on Dave's Galloway 16
In-Reply-To: <f5f1dad877870b6d1701e90b30d49d4b.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <f5f1dad877870b6d1701e90b30d49d4b.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <SNT143-ds10E993F4DFA2D0A5BDCC9BBBBA0@phx.gbl>

Arnie, have him measure the largest and smallest diameter where the cover 
would bolt on.  The smallest would be where the cover slides over the 
collar.  We have one cover and handwheel on our 6hp but looks like it'll fit 
on the 9hp which is missing both.

  I'll try to get some pictures up.


Rick






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Friction clutch pulley on Dave's Galloway 16


> Dave sez he doesn't have either the cover or the hand wheel, but would 
> like
> to buy one of each if someone does do castings.
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> On Fri, August 17, 2012 10:15 am, Richard Strobel wrote:
> >
> >   Thought I'd put this on the list Dave just in case someone else can
> > help.
> >
> >   Have you plans for a recast cover and hand wheel for the 16's friction
> > clutch pulley?
> >
> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/trailer/16_GallowayTrailer/MVC-455X.JPG
> >
> >   We need both for our 9hp Gal.
> >
> >   RickinMt.
> >
> >
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From eric at facspro.com  Tue Aug 21 22:35:54 2012
From: eric at facspro.com (Eric Walter)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:35:54 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Saving Ag History
Message-ID: <B9E2EE9F798C48EC920F3DA3208595F5@Office>

An opportunity to help Save Ag History from the Scrap Yard.
http://youtu.be/N6TD0T3LqcU

If you can, please pass the link on to others that may be interested in saving Tired Iron.

Thanks,
Eric Walter
Brady NE

From floydandbobee at copper.net  Sun Aug 26 09:54:06 2012
From: floydandbobee at copper.net (Floyd and Bobee Boyett)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:54:06 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
Message-ID: <51B4CE8F8852410989E0E9D4424300F2@BoyettOffice>

I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.  I thought I would get a conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.  I have had a 5 HP, throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for sell or found it in an engine book.  (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)  I am sure it is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in books or mags.  Do you have one or have you seen one?  Looking forward to some input.

Floyd Boyett
Lumberton, Texas  

From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 26 11:32:48 2012
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:32:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
In-Reply-To: <51B4CE8F8852410989E0E9D4424300F2@BoyettOffice>
Message-ID: <1346005968.37703.YahooMailClassic@web111710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Do you have a picture or two on-line anywhere?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sun, 8/26/12, Floyd and Bobee Boyett <floydandbobee at copper.net> wrote:


From: Floyd and Bobee Boyett <floydandbobee at copper.net>
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Date: Sunday, August 26, 2012, 12:54 PM


I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.? I thought I would get a conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.? I have had a 5 HP, throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for sell or found it in an engine book.? (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)? I am sure it is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in books or mags.? Do you have one or have you seen one?? Looking forward to some input.

Floyd Boyett
Lumberton, Texas? 
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From christison at coastalnet.com  Sun Aug 26 13:26:18 2012
From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 16:26:18 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
In-Reply-To: <51B4CE8F8852410989E0E9D4424300F2@BoyettOffice>
References: <51B4CE8F8852410989E0E9D4424300F2@BoyettOffice>
Message-ID: <503A866A.9060005@coastalnet.com>

Welcome to the list, Floyd.

Is the hopper tapered a bit vertically, or is squarish with rounded corners?
Jacob Haisch built the early Rock Island and the later ones were built by
Alamo.  I have a 7HP Alamo.

Take care.

Ken

On 8/26/2012 12:54 PM, Floyd and Bobee Boyett wrote:
> I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.  I thought I would get a conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.  I have had a 5 HP, throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for sell or found it in an engine book.  (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)  I am sure it is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in books or mags.  Do you have one or have you seen one?  Looking forward to some input.
>
> Floyd Boyett
> Lumberton, Texas
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From christison at coastalnet.com  Sun Aug 26 13:37:55 2012
From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 16:37:55 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
In-Reply-To: <51B4CE8F8852410989E0E9D4424300F2@BoyettOffice>
References: <51B4CE8F8852410989E0E9D4424300F2@BoyettOffice>
Message-ID: <503A8923.9070202@coastalnet.com>


Floyd,

Does this page help any:

http://www.rockislandplowco.com/index_files/alamo.htm

Ken

On 8/26/2012 12:54 PM, Floyd and Bobee Boyett wrote:
> I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.  I thought I would get a conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.  I have had a 5 HP, throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for sell or found it in an engine book.  (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)  I am sure it is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in books or mags.  Do you have one or have you seen one?  Looking forward to some input.
>
> Floyd Boyett
> Lumberton, Texas
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From christison at coastalnet.com  Sun Aug 26 13:47:59 2012
From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 16:47:59 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
In-Reply-To: <503A8923.9070202@coastalnet.com>
References: <51B4CE8F8852410989E0E9D4424300F2@BoyettOffice>
	<503A8923.9070202@coastalnet.com>
Message-ID: <503A8B7F.9070708@coastalnet.com>

Floyd,

Be sure to check out the link to Denis Rouleau's page.  He has a
registry of Alamo built engines.  My 7HP is the latest one he has
recorded so far.  I don't know if he is keeping the registry up since
I haven't heard much from him is a couple years.

Ken

On 8/26/2012 4:37 PM, Ken Christison wrote:
> Floyd,
>
> Does this page help any:
>
> http://www.rockislandplowco.com/index_files/alamo.htm
>
> Ken
>
> On 8/26/2012 12:54 PM, Floyd and Bobee Boyett wrote:
>> I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.  I thought I would get a conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.  I have had a 5 HP, throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for sell or found it in an engine book.  (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)  I am sure it is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in books or mags.  Do you have one or have you seen one?  Looking forward to some input.
>>
>> Floyd Boyett
>> Lumberton, Texas
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From asouth42 at embarqmail.com  Sun Aug 26 15:55:15 2012
From: asouth42 at embarqmail.com (Arthur Southwell)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:55:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Hurricane Isaac
Message-ID: <DCBA6F2B16764E08AF2B5F234D5CE8B7@ArthurHP2>

I hope all of our list friends stay safe and damage free as Isaac comes bearing down on the upper gulf coast.

C?ya,

Arthur Southwell
Arcadia, FL 34266 USA

asouth42 at embarqmail.com


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From jbcast at charter.net  Sun Aug 26 20:06:58 2012
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:06:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Hurricane Isaac
Message-ID: <469a91e8.31cef0.139660be34b.Webtop.49@charter.net>

Thanks Arthur, looks like it's headd our way, not too bad yet, hope it 
doesn't gain much strength.
J.B. Catagnos
Belle Rose, LA


On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Arthur Southwell wrote:

> I hope all of our list friends stay safe and damage free as Isaac 
> comes bearing down on the upper gulf coast.
>
> C?ya,
>
> Arthur Southwell
> Arcadia, FL 34266 USA
>
> asouth42 at embarqmail.com
>
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From mcanady at lilleyinternational.com  Mon Aug 27 06:15:33 2012
From: mcanady at lilleyinternational.com (Merton Canady)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:15:33 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Salt Lake City
Message-ID: <013d01cd8456$0a14c680$1e3e5380$@lilleyinternational.com>

I will be traveling to Salt Lake City the second weekend in September and
wanted to know if any old iron collectors in the area. 

 

Merton D. Canady

Truck Salesman

 

Lilley International, Inc.

103 East Blvd

Williamston, NC  27892

 

252-799-6688  cell

252-792-4192  store

252-792-3442  fax

 



From Germoamer at aol.com  Mon Aug 27 09:12:17 2012
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:12:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
Message-ID: <24d6e.67ffac85.3d6cf661@aol.com>



 
In a message dated 8/27/2012 11:44:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
christison at coastalnet.com writes:

Does this page help any:

_http://www.rockislandplowco.com/index_files/alamo.htm_ 
(http://www.rockislandplowco.com/index_files/alamo.htm) 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------
Ken
 
Looks like there ought to be a picture of one  with some  sorghum growing 
in the background some where!


Tom  Schmutz
Concord, Va.  
germoamer at aol.com




From rdhaskell at juno.com  Mon Aug 27 13:11:00 2012
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 13:11:00 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Small show in Chino CA.
Message-ID: <20120827.131142.1558.81768@mailpop10.vgs.untd.com>

Hi all.
While most of the list was at Portland, my local club put on a display at
the Chino Corn Feed Run.  A car show to raise money for the local service
organizations.
Perfect weather and crowd made for a fun day.  Pictures at:
https://plus.google.com/photos/104862591013550196821/albums/5781439665933
960641?authkey=CKTio6Xl1ZbaQQ

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell

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From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Mon Aug 27 14:13:17 2012
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 22:13:17 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Small show in Chino CA.
In-Reply-To: <20120827.131142.1558.81768@mailpop10.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20120827.131142.1558.81768@mailpop10.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <6163A965CE54441B9099BCCD94E59B26@BTDAVEPC>

Hi Ron, Lovely Quality Engines. Picture No 9 seems to be a Sterling Cycle
Engine very Similar to my English KY-KO Fan.
See http://www.stirlingengines.org.uk/manufact/manf/gb/mod.html.
I own both models of the KY-KO shown. The one in your picture looks similar 
to an
American Lake Breeze. I have more pictures on my websites below.
Dave Croft
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv

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Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 9:11 PM
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Subject: Small show in Chino CA.

> Hi all.
> While most of the list was at Portland, my local club put on a display at
> the Chino Corn Feed Run.  A car show to raise money for the local service
> organizations.
> Perfect weather and crowd made for a fun day.  Pictures at:
> https://plus.google.com/photos/104862591013550196821/albums/5781439665933960641?authkey=CKTio6Xl1ZbaQQ
>
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California USA
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From jnyost at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 27 16:54:09 2012
From: jnyost at yahoo.com (James Yost)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:54:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] question on Myrick Eclips
Message-ID: <1346111649.69932.YahooMailNeo@web112616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hey SEL,
????? 
Had a great time at Portland. Good to see you all. Really enjoyed the marine engine paint shaker. (ha ha)
I bought a Eclips and it is missing the oring/belt that drives the fan. I know i could use a oring but whart was the original material they used? Also do you know where i can buy some?
?
Thanks in advance, Jim

Jim and Janna Yost
Utica, Ohio
USA
jnyost at yahoo.com

From rotigel at me.com  Mon Aug 27 17:13:51 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:13:51 -0400
Subject: [SEL] question on Myrick Eclips
In-Reply-To: <1346111649.69932.YahooMailNeo@web112616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1346111649.69932.YahooMailNeo@web112616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6BB9ED8F-85A2-44D7-97B3-25C827D29B08@me.com>


On Aug 27, 2012, at 7:54 PM, James Yost wrote:

> Hey SEL,
>       
> Had a great time at Portland. Good to see you all. Really enjoyed the marine engine paint shaker. (ha ha)
> I bought a Eclips and it is missing the oring/belt that drives the fan. I know i could use a oring but whart was the original material they used?
I believe it was leather Jim
> Also do you know where i can buy some?
Hit and Miss should be able to help you.
>  
> Thanks in advance, Jim
> 
> Jim and Janna Yost
	Dave


From floydandbobee at copper.net  Mon Aug 27 18:17:25 2012
From: floydandbobee at copper.net (Floyd and Bobee Boyett)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:17:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
In-Reply-To: <1346005968.37703.YahooMailClassic@web111710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1346005968.37703.YahooMailClassic@web111710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5CB14378139644A0BE9D6FF1E505BEE9@BoyettOffice>

I'll answer Ken's question first.  The water hopper has straight sides, not 
angled with the typical flared lip.  And to answer Alan's question I do not 
have pictures on the net at this time.  I have just gotten a new computer 
going and do not have a photo program installed yet.  I will get a picture 
to you all later.  I will tell you that it looks like the average typical 
Rock Island engine although it is red.  I will have to check closely to 
determine if it has every been repainted.

Ken, none of the list I have looked at have a 5 HP RIP engine with this RPM. 
Perhaps that is due to mine being throttle governed where as most RIP 
engines seem to be Hit and Miss.

Thanks for the input.

Floyd

-----Original Message----- 
From: Alan
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 1:32 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.

Do you have a picture or two on-line anywhere?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sun, 8/26/12, Floyd and Bobee Boyett <floydandbobee at copper.net> 
wrote:


From: Floyd and Bobee Boyett <floydandbobee at copper.net>
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Date: Sunday, August 26, 2012, 12:54 PM


I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.  I thought I would get a 
conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.  I have had a 5 HP, 
throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for 
sell or found it in an engine book.  (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)  I am sure it 
is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in 
books or mags.  Do you have one or have you seen one?  Looking forward to 
some input.

Floyd Boyett
Lumberton, Texas
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From floydandbobee at copper.net  Mon Aug 27 18:21:16 2012
From: floydandbobee at copper.net (Floyd and Bobee Boyett)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:21:16 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
In-Reply-To: <503A8923.9070202@coastalnet.com>
References: <51B4CE8F8852410989E0E9D4424300F2@BoyettOffice>
	<503A8923.9070202@coastalnet.com>
Message-ID: <BD5E6E767DD2476BB070819D0FAB4659@BoyettOffice>

Ken,

The corners of the hopper are rounded.

Floyd

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ken Christison
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:37 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.


Floyd,

Does this page help any:

http://www.rockislandplowco.com/index_files/alamo.htm

Ken

On 8/26/2012 12:54 PM, Floyd and Bobee Boyett wrote:
> I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.  I thought I would get a 
> conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.  I have had a 5 
> HP, throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come 
> up for sell or found it in an engine book.  (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)  I 
> am sure it is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or 
> pictures in books or mags.  Do you have one or have you seen one?  Looking 
> forward to some input.
>
> Floyd Boyett
> Lumberton, Texas
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From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Mon Aug 27 18:31:48 2012
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:31:48 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [SEL] question on Myrick Eclips
Message-ID: <14485165.1346117508478.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I bought my leather belts for engines from McMaster Carr.  They carry many sizes and ship it with in a couple of days.

Tim Christoff

-----Original Message-----
>From: Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
>Sent: Aug 27, 2012 7:13 PM
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] question on Myrick Eclips
>
>
>On Aug 27, 2012, at 7:54 PM, James Yost wrote:
>
>> Hey SEL,
>>       
>> Had a great time at Portland. Good to see you all. Really enjoyed the marine engine paint shaker. (ha ha)
>> I bought a Eclips and it is missing the oring/belt that drives the fan. I know i could use a oring but whart was the original material they used?
>I believe it was leather Jim
>> Also do you know where i can buy some?
>Hit and Miss should be able to help you.
>>  
>> Thanks in advance, Jim
>> 
>> Jim and Janna Yost
>	Dave
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Tim Christoff


From jbcast at charter.net  Mon Aug 27 19:14:43 2012
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 22:14:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] question on Myrick Eclips
Message-ID: <2ca5c9fa.32bd25.1396b026710.Webtop.45@charter.net>

It was fun, I enjoyed meeting with friends, running engines, and helping 
others get theirs running. The oscillating cylinder "paint shaker" drew 
a lot of interest, glad I got to display it, it's for a friend. I took 
it home last year to get it running, he told me to keep it and display 
it for a while. Waiting for the storm now, so far it doesn't look bad, 
tornado would be the worst thing.
J.B. Castagnos


On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 6:54 PM, James Yost wrote:

> Hey SEL,
> ????? Had a great time at Portland. Good to see you all. Really 
> enjoyed the marine engine paint shaker. (ha ha)
> I bought a Eclips and it is missing the oring/belt that drives the 
> fan. I know i could use a oring but whart was the original material 
> they used? Also do you know where i can buy some?
> ?
> Thanks in advance, Jim
>
> Jim and Janna Yost
> Utica, Ohio
> USA
> jnyost at yahoo.com
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From christison at coastalnet.com  Mon Aug 27 21:02:04 2012
From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 00:02:04 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
In-Reply-To: <24d6e.67ffac85.3d6cf661@aol.com>
References: <24d6e.67ffac85.3d6cf661@aol.com>
Message-ID: <503C42BC.8000604@coastalnet.com>

Hey Tom,

Here is the pic you are talking about:
http://buzzcoil.brinkster.net/alamo/115468b.jpg

It is the last entry on Denis's page.

Ken

On 8/27/2012 12:12 PM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote:
>
>   
> In a message dated 8/27/2012 11:44:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> christison at coastalnet.com writes:
>
> Does this page help any:
>
> _http://www.rockislandplowco.com/index_files/alamo.htm_
> (http://www.rockislandplowco.com/index_files/alamo.htm)
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Ken
>   
> Looks like there ought to be a picture of one  with some  sorghum growing
> in the background some where!
>
>
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord, Va.
> germoamer at aol.com
>
>
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From mcanady at lilleyinternational.com  Tue Aug 28 08:05:21 2012
From: mcanady at lilleyinternational.com (Merton Canady)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:05:21 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 101, Issue 17
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1346083201.32114.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
References: <mailman.3.1346083201.32114.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <001e01cd852e$8b5ab5a0$a21020e0$@lilleyinternational.com>

David
What address do you want us to mail docs. to?
Thanks

Merton D. Canady
Truck Salesman

Lilley International, Inc.
103 East Blvd
Williamston, NC  27892

252-799-6688  cell
252-792-4192  store
252-792-3442  fax



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   1. Rock Island Plow Co. (Floyd and Bobee Boyett)
   2. Re: Rock Island Plow Co. (Alan)
   3. Re: Rock Island Plow Co. (Ken Christison)
   4. Re: Rock Island Plow Co. (Ken Christison)
   5. Re: Rock Island Plow Co. (Ken Christison)
   6. O.T. Hurricane Isaac (Arthur Southwell)
   7. Re: O.T. Hurricane Isaac (jbcast at charter.net)
   8. Salt Lake City (Merton Canady)


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message: 1
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:54:06 -0500
From: "Floyd and Bobee Boyett" <floydandbobee at copper.net>
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
To: <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <51B4CE8F8852410989E0E9D4424300F2 at BoyettOffice>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.  I thought I would get a
conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.  I have had a 5 HP,
throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for
sell or found it in an engine book.  (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)  I am sure it
is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in
books or mags.  Do you have one or have you seen one?  Looking forward to
some input.

Floyd Boyett
Lumberton, Texas  

------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:32:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID:
	<1346005968.37703.YahooMailClassic at web111710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Do you have a picture or two on-line anywhere?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sun, 8/26/12, Floyd and Bobee Boyett <floydandbobee at copper.net>
wrote:


From: Floyd and Bobee Boyett <floydandbobee at copper.net>
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Date: Sunday, August 26, 2012, 12:54 PM


I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.? I thought I would get a
conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.? I have had a 5 HP,
throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for
sell or found it in an engine book.? (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)? I am sure it
is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in
books or mags.? Do you have one or have you seen one?? Looking forward to
some input.

Floyd Boyett
Lumberton, Texas? 
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------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 16:26:18 -0400
From: Ken Christison <christison at coastalnet.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <503A866A.9060005 at coastalnet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Welcome to the list, Floyd.

Is the hopper tapered a bit vertically, or is squarish with rounded corners?
Jacob Haisch built the early Rock Island and the later ones were built by
Alamo.  I have a 7HP Alamo.

Take care.

Ken

On 8/26/2012 12:54 PM, Floyd and Bobee Boyett wrote:
> I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.  I thought I would get a
conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.  I have had a 5 HP,
throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for
sell or found it in an engine book.  (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)  I am sure it
is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in
books or mags.  Do you have one or have you seen one?  Looking forward to
some input.
>
> Floyd Boyett
> Lumberton, Texas
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 16:37:55 -0400
From: Ken Christison <christison at coastalnet.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
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Floyd,

Does this page help any:

http://www.rockislandplowco.com/index_files/alamo.htm

Ken

On 8/26/2012 12:54 PM, Floyd and Bobee Boyett wrote:
> I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.  I thought I would get a
conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.  I have had a 5 HP,
throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for
sell or found it in an engine book.  (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)  I am sure it
is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in
books or mags.  Do you have one or have you seen one?  Looking forward to
some input.
>
> Floyd Boyett
> Lumberton, Texas
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 16:47:59 -0400
From: Ken Christison <christison at coastalnet.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <503A8B7F.9070708 at coastalnet.com>
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Floyd,

Be sure to check out the link to Denis Rouleau's page.  He has a
registry of Alamo built engines.  My 7HP is the latest one he has
recorded so far.  I don't know if he is keeping the registry up since
I haven't heard much from him is a couple years.

Ken

On 8/26/2012 4:37 PM, Ken Christison wrote:
> Floyd,
>
> Does this page help any:
>
> http://www.rockislandplowco.com/index_files/alamo.htm
>
> Ken
>
> On 8/26/2012 12:54 PM, Floyd and Bobee Boyett wrote:
>> I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.  I thought I would get a
conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.  I have had a 5 HP,
throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for
sell or found it in an engine book.  (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)  I am sure it
is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in
books or mags.  Do you have one or have you seen one?  Looking forward to
some input.
>>
>> Floyd Boyett
>> Lumberton, Texas
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:55:15 -0400
From: "Arthur Southwell" <asouth42 at embarqmail.com>
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Hurricane Isaac
To: "ATIS-SEL" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>,	"oldengine.org"
	<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>,	"Slick Willy"
<slick at toltbbs.com>
Message-ID: <DCBA6F2B16764E08AF2B5F234D5CE8B7 at ArthurHP2>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I hope all of our list friends stay safe and damage free as Isaac comes
bearing down on the upper gulf coast.

C?ya,

Arthur Southwell
Arcadia, FL 34266 USA

asouth42 at embarqmail.com


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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:06:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: jbcast at charter.net
Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Hurricane Isaac
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
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Thanks Arthur, looks like it's headd our way, not too bad yet, hope it 
doesn't gain much strength.
J.B. Catagnos
Belle Rose, LA


On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Arthur Southwell wrote:

> I hope all of our list friends stay safe and damage free as Isaac 
> comes bearing down on the upper gulf coast.
>
> C?ya,
>
> Arthur Southwell
> Arcadia, FL 34266 USA
>
> asouth42 at embarqmail.com
>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:15:33 -0400
From: "Merton Canady" <mcanady at lilleyinternational.com>
Subject: [SEL] Salt Lake City
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <013d01cd8456$0a14c680$1e3e5380$@lilleyinternational.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

I will be traveling to Salt Lake City the second weekend in September and
wanted to know if any old iron collectors in the area. 

 

Merton D. Canady

Truck Salesman

 

Lilley International, Inc.

103 East Blvd

Williamston, NC  27892

 

252-799-6688  cell

252-792-4192  store

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From toadhill at aeroinc.net  Tue Aug 28 09:26:00 2012
From: toadhill at aeroinc.net (Joe Maurer)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:26:00 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Paint Shaker Engine
Message-ID: <FCAA6FD9A2AA4EBAAFE45D25C0130E90@toadhill>

JB,

Thanks for starting the paint shaker and my new Buffalo engine.  Saw your picture running engines in Maine.  A long way from home.  Also saw the movie of your 30 mile boat trip.  Didn't know you were that famous.

Best Regards,
Joe

From curt at rustyiron.com  Tue Aug 28 19:59:09 2012
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:59:09 -0400
Subject: [SEL] question on Myrick Eclips
In-Reply-To: <1346111649.69932.YahooMailNeo@web112616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1346111649.69932.YahooMailNeo@web112616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <72fc857de7491dcb0627bbbcc0c53e71.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>


Jim,
Most used round leather belting. Just bought some for Missy's New Way from
McMaster Carr. Hers required 5/16" as I recall. 1/4, 5/16, 3/8" and other
sizes are available from McM, as are the "hog ring" staples for joining.
Curt Holland
Bessemer City, NC

> Hey SEL,
> ?????
> Had a great time at Portland. Good to see you all. Really enjoyed the
> marine engine paint shaker. (ha ha)
> I bought a Eclips and it is missing the oring/belt that drives the fan. I
> know i could use a oring but whart was the original material they used?
> Also do you know where i can buy some?
> ?
> Thanks in advance, Jim
>
> Jim and Janna Yost
> Utica, Ohio
> USA
> jnyost at yahoo.com
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From jnyost at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 29 02:44:21 2012
From: jnyost at yahoo.com (Jim Yost)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 05:44:21 -0400
Subject: [SEL] question on Myrick Eclips
In-Reply-To: <72fc857de7491dcb0627bbbcc0c53e71.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
References: <1346111649.69932.YahooMailNeo@web112616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<72fc857de7491dcb0627bbbcc0c53e71.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
Message-ID: <C0D91A6A-2F7C-4DED-A20F-6DDB646706D3@yahoo.com>

Thanks I thought about looking in McMaster Carr and just haven't had a chance thanks for the info

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 28, 2012, at 10:59 PM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote:

> 
> Jim,
> Most used round leather belting. Just bought some for Missy's New Way from
> McMaster Carr. Hers required 5/16" as I recall. 1/4, 5/16, 3/8" and other
> sizes are available from McM, as are the "hog ring" staples for joining.
> Curt Holland
> Bessemer City, NC
> 
>> Hey SEL,
>>      
>> Had a great time at Portland. Good to see you all. Really enjoyed the
>> marine engine paint shaker. (ha ha)
>> I bought a Eclips and it is missing the oring/belt that drives the fan. I
>> know i could use a oring but whart was the original material they used?
>> Also do you know where i can buy some?
>>  
>> Thanks in advance, Jim
>> 
>> Jim and Janna Yost
>> Utica, Ohio
>> USA
>> jnyost at yahoo.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> 
> 
> 
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Thu Aug 30 18:55:32 2012
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:55:32 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
Message-ID: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle. Last
weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give the
2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to retard
the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is at
the age where he repeats everything).
My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all loaded
ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
weeks time.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From curt at rustyiron.com  Thu Aug 30 19:18:29 2012
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:18:29 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f13c50c8596d7c54e2fa62e5c8cc26b1.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>


Photos Patrick?

If John Hammink could post photos of himself de-clothed and pummeled by
his IHC-M, you can post a photo of what a crank handle can do to your hand
and wrist.

Seeing your hand would be a good reminder to all of us the damage these
engines, even small ones, can inflict on us.

'Least you didn't take one in the chin like Kerry did a while back.

Curt



> For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle.
> Last
> weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give
> the
> 2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to
> retard
> the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
> and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
> did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is
> at
> the age where he repeats everything).
> My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
> Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all
> loaded
> ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
> I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
> weeks time.
> Patrick
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> 0418 692013
> Earlwood NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
>
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>




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Aug 30 19:28:58 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:28:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7f1353031424db9d11caa802215b7772.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com>

G'day Patrick,

I'm glad to hear that you're not seriously injured.

It is worth while to post these "cautionary tales" lest we grow complacent
and forget that this olde iron can indeed bite us.

Years ago I had my 5 hp Petter "M" at a local show.  It was late in the
day and I had grown complacent.  For those of you who are not familiar
with the engine, it has a hand crank that looks like a disemboweling hook.
 And when the engine fires, the hook flies off the crankshaft quite
smartly.  The normal starting position is to have the engine backed up
onto compression, fit the crank, and WLF.  (Clarification of "WLF"
provided off-list.)  The body position is parallel to the engine so that
when the crank flies off the crankshaft, no body parts are in the flight
path.

When complacent, however, the body position ends up facing the engine with
the face looking down at the crank.  This results in the forehead getting
a really good SMACK when the crank flies off.  Fortunately there were no
little ones about, so I was free to vent my frustration!

See ya,  Arnie

On Thu, August 30, 2012 9:55 pm, Patrick Livingstone wrote:
> For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle.
> Last
> weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give
> the
> 2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to
> retard
> the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
> and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
> did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is
> at
> the age where he repeats everything).
> My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
> Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all
> loaded
> ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
> I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
> weeks time.
> Patrick




From al.harris at rustic-engines.com  Thu Aug 30 19:38:53 2012
From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:38:53 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <f13c50c8596d7c54e2fa62e5c8cc26b1.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
References: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
	<f13c50c8596d7c54e2fa62e5c8cc26b1.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
Message-ID: <504023BD.1080207@rustic-engines.com>

Hmmm.

I broke the lens in my glasses and imbedded about twenty pieces into the 
area around my eye. Missed the eye completely. It took four operations 
to get all but one piece out. It's staying there as it would be possible 
to damage a muscle that controls the eye if an attempt was made to 
remove it.

Thumbs and wrists - kids play. :-( Done that twice also.

Al Harris
Northern Rivers NSW OZ.


On 31/08/2012 12:18 PM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote:
> Photos Patrick?
>
> If John Hammink could post photos of himself de-clothed and pummeled by
> his IHC-M, you can post a photo of what a crank handle can do to your hand
> and wrist.
>
> Seeing your hand would be a good reminder to all of us the damage these
> engines, even small ones, can inflict on us.
>
> 'Least you didn't take one in the chin like Kerry did a while back.
>
> Curt
>
>
>
>> For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle.
>> Last
>> weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give
>> the
>> 2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to
>> retard
>> the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
>> and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
>> did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is
>> at
>> the age where he repeats everything).
>> My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
>> Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all
>> loaded
>> ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
>> I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
>> weeks time.
>> Patrick
>>
>> Patrick M Livingstone
>> 0418 692013
>> Earlwood NSW
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>>
>>
>>



From jnyost at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 31 03:52:10 2012
From: jnyost at yahoo.com (Jim Yost)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 06:52:10 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <7f1353031424db9d11caa802215b7772.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com>
References: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
	<7f1353031424db9d11caa802215b7772.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <5099CC2C-1DBC-4DB0-B8C7-569E475F304C@yahoo.com>

Arnie I'm stupid. Send me off list what WLF means. Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 30, 2012, at 10:28 PM, "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:

> G'day Patrick,
> 
> I'm glad to hear that you're not seriously injured.
> 
> It is worth while to post these "cautionary tales" lest we grow complacent
> and forget that this olde iron can indeed bite us.
> 
> Years ago I had my 5 hp Petter "M" at a local show.  It was late in the
> day and I had grown complacent.  For those of you who are not familiar
> with the engine, it has a hand crank that looks like a disemboweling hook.
> And when the engine fires, the hook flies off the crankshaft quite
> smartly.  The normal starting position is to have the engine backed up
> onto compression, fit the crank, and WLF.  (Clarification of "WLF"
> provided off-list.)  The body position is parallel to the engine so that
> when the crank flies off the crankshaft, no body parts are in the flight
> path.
> 
> When complacent, however, the body position ends up facing the engine with
> the face looking down at the crank.  This results in the forehead getting
> a really good SMACK when the crank flies off.  Fortunately there were no
> little ones about, so I was free to vent my frustration!
> 
> See ya,  Arnie
> 
> On Thu, August 30, 2012 9:55 pm, Patrick Livingstone wrote:
>> For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle.
>> Last
>> weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give
>> the
>> 2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to
>> retard
>> the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
>> and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
>> did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is
>> at
>> the age where he repeats everything).
>> My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
>> Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all
>> loaded
>> ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
>> I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
>> weeks time.
>> Patrick
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From rotigel at me.com  Fri Aug 31 04:37:30 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:37:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <5099CC2C-1DBC-4DB0-B8C7-569E475F304C@yahoo.com>
References: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
	<7f1353031424db9d11caa802215b7772.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com>
	<5099CC2C-1DBC-4DB0-B8C7-569E475F304C@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DE4BAE94-4373-417C-9FE5-2DB9E5C3F63C@me.com>

Hi Jim, It's the opposite of FLW.
	Dave

On Aug 31, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Jim Yost wrote:

> Arnie I'm stupid. Send me off list what WLF means. Thanks
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 30, 2012, at 10:28 PM, "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
> 
>> G'day Patrick,
>> 
>> I'm glad to hear that you're not seriously injured.
>> 
>> It is worth while to post these "cautionary tales" lest we grow complacent
>> and forget that this olde iron can indeed bite us.
>> 
>> Years ago I had my 5 hp Petter "M" at a local show.  It was late in the
>> day and I had grown complacent.  For those of you who are not familiar
>> with the engine, it has a hand crank that looks like a disemboweling hook.
>> And when the engine fires, the hook flies off the crankshaft quite
>> smartly.  The normal starting position is to have the engine backed up
>> onto compression, fit the crank, and WLF.  (Clarification of "WLF"
>> provided off-list.)  The body position is parallel to the engine so that
>> when the crank flies off the crankshaft, no body parts are in the flight
>> path.
>> 
>> When complacent, however, the body position ends up facing the engine with
>> the face looking down at the crank.  This results in the forehead getting
>> a really good SMACK when the crank flies off.  Fortunately there were no
>> little ones about, so I was free to vent my frustration!
>> 
>> See ya,  Arnie
>> 
>> On Thu, August 30, 2012 9:55 pm, Patrick Livingstone wrote:
>>> For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle.
>>> Last
>>> weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give
>>> the
>>> 2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to
>>> retard
>>> the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
>>> and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
>>> did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is
>>> at
>>> the age where he repeats everything).
>>> My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
>>> Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all
>>> loaded
>>> ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
>>> I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
>>> weeks time.
>>> Patrick
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Fri Aug 31 05:06:11 2012
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 22:06:11 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <f13c50c8596d7c54e2fa62e5c8cc26b1.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
Message-ID: <CC66E5D3.EFF1%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

The photos would not be very interesting. It was pretty swollen after I did
it but now it is just annoyingly sore :(
Patrick


On 31/8/12 12:18 PM, "curt at rustyiron.com" <curt at rustyiron.com> wrote:

> 
> Photos Patrick?
> 
> If John Hammink could post photos of himself de-clothed and pummeled by
> his IHC-M, you can post a photo of what a crank handle can do to your hand
> and wrist.
> 
> Seeing your hand would be a good reminder to all of us the damage these
> engines, even small ones, can inflict on us.
> 
> 'Least you didn't take one in the chin like Kerry did a while back.
> 
> Curt
> 
> 
> 
>> For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle.
>> Last
>> weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give
>> the
>> 2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to
>> retard
>> the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
>> and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
>> did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is
>> at
>> the age where he repeats everything).
>> My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
>> Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all
>> loaded
>> ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
>> I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
>> weeks time.
>> Patrick
>> 
>> Patrick M Livingstone
>> 0418 692013
>> Earlwood NSW
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From walking_tractor at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 31 05:26:31 2012
From: walking_tractor at yahoo.com (David Myers)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 05:26:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1346415991.56573.YahooMailNeo@web121501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

If it applies to your engine situation, my method of attack on my Hercules is this.? 
Hold the intake valve open with my left hand, crank with my right.?? While engine spins REMOVE CRANK, then let intake valve close, momentum starts engine.? Has saved ouchies more than once.
David


________________________________
From: Patrick Livingstone <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: ATIS <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; Oldengine <stationary-engine at oldengine.org> 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:55 PM
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack

For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle. Last
weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give the
2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to retard
the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is at
the age where he repeats everything).
My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all loaded
ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
weeks time.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Aug 31 06:30:31 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:30:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <1346415991.56573.YahooMailNeo@web121501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
	<1346415991.56573.YahooMailNeo@web121501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ab82018b66a6589b5bc71ccfacc36db2.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

I use the same process on my Novo and my Bamford.  It works REALLY well.

On Fri, August 31, 2012 8:26 am, David Myers wrote:
> If it applies to your engine situation, my method of attack on my Hercules
> is this.?
> Hold the intake valve open with my left hand, crank with my right.?? While
> engine spins REMOVE CRANK, then let intake valve close, momentum starts
> engine.? Has saved ouchies more than once.
> David




From jlb94 at juno.com  Fri Aug 31 06:44:54 2012
From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:44:54 GMT
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
Message-ID: <20120831.094454.20119.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>

I didn't catch this thread from the beginning - But - Sounds like the proper way to use a handcrank to start an engine.
But - There are times when the engine won't start and you get more & more aggrivated and the timing betweem the left and right hand gets outta synk and the next thing you know, you got hit in the jaw and you're on the way to the hospital.

I was lucky, it only knocked my glasses off.


Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/       If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.
 (_0_)            "In memory of Bre-Dog"  
                                                          

                                



---------- Original Message ----------
From: David Myers <walking_tractor at yahoo.com>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>,        Oldengine <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Crank handle attack
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 05:26:31 -0700 (PDT)

If it applies to your engine situation, my method of attack on my Hercules is this.  
Hold the intake valve open with my left hand, crank with my right.   While engine spins REMOVE CRANK, then let intake valve close, momentum starts engine.  Has saved ouchies more than once.
David


________________________________
From: Patrick Livingstone <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: ATIS <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; Oldengine <stationary-engine at oldengine.org> 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:55 PM
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack

For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle. Last
weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give the
2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to retard
the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is at
the age where he repeats everything).
My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all loaded
ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
weeks time.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html



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From walking_tractor at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 31 07:21:08 2012
From: walking_tractor at yahoo.com (David Myers)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:21:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <20120831.094454.20119.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20120831.094454.20119.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <1346422868.31507.YahooMailNeo@web121501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I admit to having been rapped a few times myself.
My biggest worry has always been a stuck crank.? Saw it happen when I was a kid and the fellow actually was successful at knocking it off while running.
I've NEVER been that coordinated (and mostly have been a chicken) to have tried it.
Old proverb:? "Better to be live chicken than dead duck".
Have started this engine so long this way I don't rightly remember if I thunk of it myself or an old-timer taught me.
Have always listened to experience, sometimes I even paid attention.
David


________________________________
From: "jlb94 at juno.com" <jlb94 at juno.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Crank handle attack

I didn't catch this thread from the beginning - But - Sounds like the proper way to use a handcrank to start an engine.
But - There are times when the engine won't start and you get more & more aggrivated and the timing betweem the left and right hand gets outta synk and the next thing you know, you got hit in the jaw and you're on the way to the hospital.

I was lucky, it only knocked my glasses off.


Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
,-._,-.? ? ? http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
\/)"(\/? ? ? If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.
(_0_)? ? ? ? ? ? "In memory of Bre-Dog"? 
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 



---------- Original Message ----------
From: David Myers <walking_tractor at yahoo.com>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>,? ? ? ? Oldengine <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Crank handle attack
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 05:26:31 -0700 (PDT)

If it applies to your engine situation, my method of attack on my Hercules is this.? 
Hold the intake valve open with my left hand, crank with my right.? While engine spins REMOVE CRANK, then let intake valve close, momentum starts engine.? Has saved ouchies more than once.
David


________________________________
From: Patrick Livingstone <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: ATIS <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; Oldengine <stationary-engine at oldengine.org> 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:55 PM
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack

For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle. Last
weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give the
2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to retard
the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is at
the age where he repeats everything).
My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all loaded
ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
weeks time.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html



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From wilson at stny.rr.com  Fri Aug 31 08:03:05 2012
From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:03:05 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <1346422868.31507.YahooMailNeo@web121501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <20120831.094454.20119.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>
	<1346422868.31507.YahooMailNeo@web121501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6E91141B-0807-4082-BD8B-2FB12F39DA7C@stny.rr.com>

I had one crank handle stay on. It scared the begeebers out of me. I yelled for people to get out of the path then found a stick. By then it had come off the tang and was sliding off the shaft. Eventually it just fell on the ground. I gained even more respect than I had previously!  

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2012, at 10:21 AM, David Myers <walking_tractor at yahoo.com> wrote:

I admit to having been rapped a few times myself.
My biggest worry has always been a stuck crank.  Saw it happen when I was a kid and the fellow actually was successful at knocking it off while running.
I've NEVER been that coordinated (and mostly have been a chicken) to have tried it.
Old proverb:  "Better to be live chicken than dead duck".
Have started this engine so long this way I don't rightly remember if I thunk of it myself or an old-timer taught me.
Have always listened to experience, sometimes I even paid attention.
David


________________________________
From: "jlb94 at juno.com" <jlb94 at juno.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Crank handle attack

I didn't catch this thread from the beginning - But - Sounds like the proper way to use a handcrank to start an engine.
But - There are times when the engine won't start and you get more & more aggrivated and the timing betweem the left and right hand gets outta synk and the next thing you know, you got hit in the jaw and you're on the way to the hospital.

I was lucky, it only knocked my glasses off.


Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
\/)"(\/      If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.
(_0_)            "In memory of Bre-Dog"  
                                                          

                                



---------- Original Message ----------
From: David Myers <walking_tractor at yahoo.com>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>,        Oldengine <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Crank handle attack
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 05:26:31 -0700 (PDT)

If it applies to your engine situation, my method of attack on my Hercules is this.  
Hold the intake valve open with my left hand, crank with my right.  While engine spins REMOVE CRANK, then let intake valve close, momentum starts engine.  Has saved ouchies more than once.
David


________________________________
From: Patrick Livingstone <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: ATIS <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; Oldengine <stationary-engine at oldengine.org> 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:55 PM
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack

For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle. Last
weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give the
2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to retard
the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is at
the age where he repeats everything).
My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all loaded
ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
weeks time.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html



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From walking_tractor at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 31 09:31:38 2012
From: walking_tractor at yahoo.com (David Myers)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:31:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <6E91141B-0807-4082-BD8B-2FB12F39DA7C@stny.rr.com>
References: <20120831.094454.20119.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>
	<1346422868.31507.YahooMailNeo@web121501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<6E91141B-0807-4082-BD8B-2FB12F39DA7C@stny.rr.com>
Message-ID: <1346430698.74426.YahooMailNeo@web121502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Question for those that have full cranks, do you lube them (or shaft) or are they supposed to be a loose dry fit?
Oh, just remembered, I do have a couple of Wisconsins with full cranks.?? 
I keep my thumb out of the way on those and it's been a few years since running them.
David


________________________________
From: Glenn Wilson <wilson at stny.rr.com>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Crank handle attack

I had one crank handle stay on. It scared the begeebers out of me. I yelled for people to get out of the path then found a stick. By then it had come off the tang and was sliding off the shaft. Eventually it just fell on the ground. I gained even more respect than I had previously!? 

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2012, at 10:21 AM, David Myers <walking_tractor at yahoo.com> wrote:

I admit to having been rapped a few times myself.
My biggest worry has always been a stuck crank.? Saw it happen when I was a kid and the fellow actually was successful at knocking it off while running.
I've NEVER been that coordinated (and mostly have been a chicken) to have tried it.
Old proverb:? "Better to be live chicken than dead duck".
Have started this engine so long this way I don't rightly remember if I thunk of it myself or an old-timer taught me.
Have always listened to experience, sometimes I even paid attention.
David


________________________________
From: "jlb94 at juno.com" <jlb94 at juno.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Crank handle attack

I didn't catch this thread from the beginning - But - Sounds like the proper way to use a handcrank to start an engine.
But - There are times when the engine won't start and you get more & more aggrivated and the timing betweem the left and right hand gets outta synk and the next thing you know, you got hit in the jaw and you're on the way to the hospital.

I was lucky, it only knocked my glasses off.


Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
,-._,-.? ? ? http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
\/)"(\/? ? ? If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.
(_0_)? ? ? ? ? ? "In memory of Bre-Dog"? 
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 



---------- Original Message ----------
From: David Myers <walking_tractor at yahoo.com>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>,? ? ? ? Oldengine <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Crank handle attack
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 05:26:31 -0700 (PDT)

If it applies to your engine situation, my method of attack on my Hercules is this.? 
Hold the intake valve open with my left hand, crank with my right.? While engine spins REMOVE CRANK, then let intake valve close, momentum starts engine.? Has saved ouchies more than once.
David


________________________________
From: Patrick Livingstone <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: ATIS <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; Oldengine <stationary-engine at oldengine.org> 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:55 PM
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack

For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle. Last
weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give the
2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to retard
the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is at
the age where he repeats everything).
My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all loaded
ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
weeks time.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html



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From rotigel at me.com  Fri Aug 31 10:24:43 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:24:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <1346430698.74426.YahooMailNeo@web121502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <20120831.094454.20119.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>
	<1346422868.31507.YahooMailNeo@web121501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<6E91141B-0807-4082-BD8B-2FB12F39DA7C@stny.rr.com>
	<1346430698.74426.YahooMailNeo@web121502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <15F3A19E-C5D4-44D5-86CB-5622EAF986DA@me.com>

David, In the future, please keep in mind that this is a FAMILY FRIENDLY list
	Dave
PS, Goodness gracious, what is this world coming to?

On Aug 31, 2012, at 12:31 PM, David Myers wrote:

> Question for those that have full cranks, do you lube them (or shaft) or are they supposed to be a loose dry fit?
> 
> David
> 



From walking_tractor at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 31 10:50:45 2012
From: walking_tractor at yahoo.com (David Myers)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:50:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <15F3A19E-C5D4-44D5-86CB-5622EAF986DA@me.com>
References: <20120831.094454.20119.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>
	<1346422868.31507.YahooMailNeo@web121501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<6E91141B-0807-4082-BD8B-2FB12F39DA7C@stny.rr.com>
	<1346430698.74426.YahooMailNeo@web121502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<15F3A19E-C5D4-44D5-86CB-5622EAF986DA@me.com>
Message-ID: <1346435445.1666.YahooMailNeo@web121502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Oh man!? David, I really got carried away there.? So sorry, can the list ever forgive me?
By the way, which way do you lean??? On the matter of lube.? Er, uh, oops I did it again!?? ;-)
David


________________________________
From: Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Crank handle attack

David, In the future, please keep in mind that this is a FAMILY FRIENDLY list
??? Dave
PS, Goodness gracious, what is this world coming to?

On Aug 31, 2012, at 12:31 PM, David Myers wrote:

> Question for those that have full cranks, do you lube them (or shaft) or are they supposed to be a loose dry fit?
> 
> David
> 

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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Wed Aug  1 03:57:43 2012
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 20:57:43 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Brooks pictures
In-Reply-To: <20120731.175839.1659.24226@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <CC3F48C7.EDA9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

Thanks for the pics. Some very, very nice engines there.
Patrick


On 1/8/12 10:58 AM, "rdhaskell at juno.com" <rdhaskell at juno.com> wrote:

> Hi all.
> Last weekend I visited the show in Brooks Oregon.  Beautiful weather and
> engines, display area is top notch.  Pictures at:
> https://picasaweb.google.com/104862591013550196821/Brooks2012#
> 
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California USA
> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Aug  1 09:41:23 2012
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 17:41:23 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2013 Is Now A 3-Day Show
In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD4148C02D42C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
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On 31 July 2012 18:05, Best, George <George.Best at adp.com> wrote:
> I'm planning on being there!
>
> I've always thought of the show is the past as basically a 3 day show since Saturday was already pretty much a full blown show.  Guess that just means everyone needs to arrive on Friday now.

The first year we went, on a Friday pm arrival,  there wasn't a lot on
the field, but quite a few folks were there. Saturday was when most
arrived, as they were probably unable to get time off on the Friday,
and Sunday/Monday were the show days proper.

That was at the old site.

Now, with more camping and display space, Friday has become more of a
build-up day and Saturday is almost a full show day, which is why
Anton has decided to make it permanent.

We have left our options open for travelling on Wednesday's night boat
instead of Thursday's morning boat, just in case it starts getting too
busy too quickly.

Don't forget that this is a national holiday weekend for the Dutch,
with Monday being a Bank Holiday, with most places closed. Many of the
Germans have to be at work on the Monday so they often leave on the
Sunday.

Peter
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From George.Best at adp.com  Wed Aug  1 08:27:16 2012
From: George.Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 10:27:16 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Brooks pictures
In-Reply-To: <20120731.175839.1659.24226@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20120731.175839.1659.24226@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD4148C0F8A48@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

The 3hp Gade in the photos is mine and was my 9v battery experiment during the show.
I ran the Gade non-stop for 8 hours on Saturday and non-stop for 9 hours on Sunday running on a disposable 9 volt battery.
I had previously run the engine 1.5 hours on the same battery and at the end of the show it still had 8 volts!

I'm sure that a little 9v battery is sufficient to run a hit&miss ignitor fired engine that is not working for several engine shows.
Especially if you don't run your engine non-stop like I was doing.

The red 4hp tank cooled Stover with the embossed cylinder is also my engine.  It is a 1903 engine, while the two square push rod engines at the show are probably 1902.
The square pushrod engines do not have serial numbers or Stover tags and are most likely prototype engines that Stover tested at a ranch in Oregon.  Both engines were found on the same ranch.
So I didn't have the oldest Stover at the show, but I did have the oldest one with a serial number (1887) and brass tag at the show.

Ron didn't include a photo of it, but I also had my 3hp tank cooled Stover W at the show.  The tank cooled W engines where custom made by Stover and were all shipped to Australia.  There are only about a dozen of these tank cooled engines in the Cooper registry.  I had the engine shipped from Australia, so most likely it is the only one in North America.

George


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From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rdhaskell at juno.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 5:58 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Brooks pictures

Hi all.
Last weekend I visited the show in Brooks Oregon.  Beautiful weather and engines, display area is top notch.  Pictures at:
https://picasaweb.google.com/104862591013550196821/Brooks2012#

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
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From jbcast at charter.net  Wed Aug  1 14:44:01 2012
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 17:44:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Brooks pictures
Message-ID: <5ac7d61e.1fff26.138e4253bf8.Webtop.45@charter.net>

An ignitor for a battery ignition is usually closed only at firing time. 
Magneto ignitors may be closed all of the time except when firing, this 
will make a sinificnt
difference in battery draw.
J.B. Castagnos

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Best, George wrote:

> The 3hp Gade in the photos is mine and was my 9v battery experiment 
> during the show.
> I ran the Gade non-stop for 8 hours on Saturday and non-stop for 9 
> hours on Sunday running on a disposable 9 volt battery.
> I had previously run the engine 1.5 hours on the same battery and at 
> the end of the show it still had 8 volts!
>
> I'm sure that a little 9v battery is sufficient to run a hit&miss 
> ignitor fired engine that is not working for several engine shows.
> Especially if you don't run your engine non-stop like I was doing.
>
> The red 4hp tank cooled Stover with the embossed cylinder is also my 
> engine.  It is a 1903 engine, while the two square push rod engines at 
> the show are probably 1902.
> The square pushrod engines do not have serial numbers or Stover tags 
> and are most likely prototype engines that Stover tested at a ranch in 
> Oregon.  Both engines were found on the same ranch.
> So I didn't have the oldest Stover at the show, but I did have the 
> oldest one with a serial number (1887) and brass tag at the show.
>
> Ron didn't include a photo of it, but I also had my 3hp tank cooled 
> Stover W at the show.  The tank cooled W engines where custom made by 
> Stover and were all shipped to Australia.  There are only about a 
> dozen of these tank cooled engines in the Cooper registry.  I had the 
> engine shipped from Australia, so most likely it is the only one in 
> North America.
>
> George
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com 
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of 
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 5:58 PM
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] Brooks pictures
>
> Hi all.
> Last weekend I visited the show in Brooks Oregon.  Beautiful weather 
> and engines, display area is top notch.  Pictures at:
> https://picasaweb.google.com/104862591013550196821/Brooks2012#
>
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California USA
> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
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From George.Best at adp.com  Wed Aug  1 14:58:54 2012
From: George.Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 16:58:54 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Brooks pictures
In-Reply-To: <5ac7d61e.1fff26.138e4253bf8.Webtop.45@charter.net>
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Correct!
There is no draw on the battery except for the moment the ignitor trips.
A big reason why the little battery can last so long.

Wouldn't last long at all if trying to power a buzz coil on a throttle governed engine!

George

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of jbcast at charter.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 2:44 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Brooks pictures

An ignitor for a battery ignition is usually closed only at firing time. 
Magneto ignitors may be closed all of the time except when firing, this will make a sinificnt difference in battery draw.
J.B. Castagnos

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Best, George wrote:

> The 3hp Gade in the photos is mine and was my 9v battery experiment 
> during the show.
> I ran the Gade non-stop for 8 hours on Saturday and non-stop for 9 
> hours on Sunday running on a disposable 9 volt battery.
> I had previously run the engine 1.5 hours on the same battery and at 
> the end of the show it still had 8 volts!
>
> I'm sure that a little 9v battery is sufficient to run a hit&miss 
> ignitor fired engine that is not working for several engine shows.
> Especially if you don't run your engine non-stop like I was doing.
>
> The red 4hp tank cooled Stover with the embossed cylinder is also my 
> engine.  It is a 1903 engine, while the two square push rod engines at 
> the show are probably 1902.
> The square pushrod engines do not have serial numbers or Stover tags 
> and are most likely prototype engines that Stover tested at a ranch in 
> Oregon.  Both engines were found on the same ranch.
> So I didn't have the oldest Stover at the show, but I did have the 
> oldest one with a serial number (1887) and brass tag at the show.
>
> Ron didn't include a photo of it, but I also had my 3hp tank cooled 
> Stover W at the show.  The tank cooled W engines where custom made by 
> Stover and were all shipped to Australia.  There are only about a 
> dozen of these tank cooled engines in the Cooper registry.  I had the 
> engine shipped from Australia, so most likely it is the only one in 
> North America.
>
> George
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of 
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 5:58 PM
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] Brooks pictures
>
> Hi all.
> Last weekend I visited the show in Brooks Oregon.  Beautiful weather 
> and engines, display area is top notch.  Pictures at:
> https://picasaweb.google.com/104862591013550196821/Brooks2012#
>
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California USA
> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Wed Aug  1 15:45:51 2012
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 15:45:51 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Brooks pictures
Message-ID: <20120801.154627.1559.5003@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>

I was on Stover overload George.  Michael Christie asked about the 3hp. 
Great show.


Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell

On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 10:27:16 -0500 "Best, George" <George.Best at adp.com>
writes:
> The 3hp Gade in the photos is mine and was my 9v battery experiment 
> during the show.
> I ran the Gade non-stop for 8 hours on Saturday and non-stop for 9 
> hours on Sunday running on a disposable 9 volt battery.
> I had previously run the engine 1.5 hours on the same battery and at 
> the end of the show it still had 8 volts!
> 
> I'm sure that a little 9v battery is sufficient to run a hit&miss 
> ignitor fired engine that is not working for several engine shows.
> Especially if you don't run your engine non-stop like I was doing.
> 
> The red 4hp tank cooled Stover with the embossed cylinder is also my 
> engine.  It is a 1903 engine, while the two square push rod engines 
> at the show are probably 1902.
> The square pushrod engines do not have serial numbers or Stover tags 
> and are most likely prototype engines that Stover tested at a ranch 
> in Oregon.  Both engines were found on the same ranch.
> So I didn't have the oldest Stover at the show, but I did have the 
> oldest one with a serial number (1887) and brass tag at the show.
> 
> Ron didn't include a photo of it, but I also had my 3hp tank cooled 
> Stover W at the show.  The tank cooled W engines where custom made 
> by Stover and were all shipped to Australia.  There are only about a 
> dozen of these tank cooled engines in the Cooper registry.  I had 
> the engine shipped from Australia, so most likely it is the only one 
> in North America.
> 
> George
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From rotigel at me.com  Wed Aug  1 19:04:32 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 22:04:32 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Tri-State / Portland show NEW info for this year
In-Reply-To: <087471EB2AE94FF7B04320350B3C84EC@RogerDiRusciPC>
References: <8F21D1084E187F4EAE2C050F483B839A093A12FA@EXMAIL2.ohio.edu>
	<5013653E.5050105@accnorwalk.com>
	<604942240-1343471012-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-396895150-@b27.c17.bise6.blackberry>
	<5013D406.7070905@accnorwalk.com>
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	<087471EB2AE94FF7B04320350B3C84EC@RogerDiRusciPC>
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Hi Roger,
On Jul 30, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Roger DiRuscio wrote:

> Do the people showing also pay a fee?
NO.
> I have never been to this show.
> wouldn't be better to charge a few bucks more in the show area and let folks 
> sell?
Your question shows that you have never been to the show! Why not join us this year and see what the BIGGEST engine show in the world is all sbout?
> I go to shows looking for my next treasure and spend very little time 
> looking at other peoples stuff.
If ~10a. of engine related "stuff" in the sale area is not enough for you then you walk a hell of a lot faster than I do--and you are walking so fast that you are missing a lot!
> Guess I selfish also
Every human action that has ever been taken is based in selfishness. (Also, if you understand logic then remember that if everything is black then nothing is black!)
	Dave
PS, You should also try Coolspring next year!

> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 6:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Tri-State / Portland show NEW info for this year
> 
> 
>> 
>> On Jul 28, 2012, at 7:59 AM, Doug Tallman wrote:
>> 
>>> I knew the directors quit after last year but
>>> aren't directors voted in by the members?
>> I believe that is the case
>>> If you were to run for a
>>> director's position, shouldn't you be ready to accept any of the
>>> thankless jobs required?
>> Have you ever worked with volunteers Doug? I would think not!
>>> If nobody volunteered, why wasn't someone
>>> chosen or delegated?
>> I'm not sure it would be a good idea to have someone in gharge who did not 
>> want the job.
>>> The flip side is that there were a lot of people
>>> that depended on the trading post for some additional cash during the
>>> show and as a way to sell a few small items without having to rent a
>>> vendor's space.
>> I'm a life member of Tri-State and it never crossed my mind to volunteer 
>> for the job. Thinking about it now I guess I'm simply too selfish of my 
>> time to give up that much of it for others. Have you thought about 
>> volunteering for the job Doug?
>>> Letting people sell a few items from their display would
>>> increase the traffic in the display area but where would they draw the
>>> line there?
>> Good point. I think it would simply get the venders who paid REALLY 
>> PISSED!
>>> A consignment auction won't be a bad thing but it will need
>>> to be held before the last day to work out. I still think its going to
>>> be an interesting year. Doug T
>> It's ALWAYS a GREAT show!
>> Dave
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> jnyost at yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> Are the butt buggy fees increasing? If so how much?
>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Saw that in the newsletter. Do you suppose the butt buggy fees are
>>>> covering the loss of revenue? Will we see the east end vendors area
>>>> expand some more? It's going to be interesting seeing how this will work
>>>> out. Doug T
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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From sewell at ohio.edu  Thu Aug  2 13:07:15 2012
From: sewell at ohio.edu (Sewell, Steven)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 16:07:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] [AT] George Willer Auction
Message-ID: <8F21D1084E187F4EAE2C050F483B839A093A1301@EXMAIL2.ohio.edu>

http://www.bakerbonnigson.com/auctions.php


Auctions are listed by date. Oct. 6, 2012
 This is the first of two auctions that Marilyn is going to have.

Steve Sewell
Albany, Ohio USA
sewell at ohio.edu
sewell at atis.net


From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Thu Aug  2 15:10:33 2012
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 16:10:33 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Brooks pictures
In-Reply-To: <20120731.175839.1659.24226@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20120731.175839.1659.24226@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <SNT143-ds12404FFE86957F21C74C43BBCB0@phx.gbl>

Thanks much Ron!!!  Hopefully one of these days.

RickinMt.





----- Original Message ----- 
From: <rdhaskell at juno.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:58 PM
Subject: [SEL] Brooks pictures


> Hi all.
> Last weekend I visited the show in Brooks Oregon.  Beautiful weather and
> engines, display area is top notch.  Pictures at:
> https://picasaweb.google.com/104862591013550196821/Brooks2012#
> 
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California USA
> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
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From jbcast at charter.net  Sun Aug  5 03:47:34 2012
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 06:47:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Lost a friend
Message-ID: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>


Dickie Gibbens died yesterday a 3PM at his home. He fell Monday and 
fractured his skull, never recovered. He was on the list years ago, 
attended Portland with us many times. He got me started in the old 
engine hobby and I can say my life is better for having met him, I'll 
miss him.
J.B. Castagnos


From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sun Aug  5 04:03:26 2012
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 21:03:26 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Lost a friend
In-Reply-To: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>
References: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>
Message-ID: <E6BC3A582C7D45BAA99AC470BA5E7566@PeterPC>

Hi JB
Sorry to here that and my condolences to the family. I have corresponded 
with Dick in the past.
Nice guy.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia


Dickie Gibbens died yesterday a 3PM at his home. He fell Monday and
fractured his skull, never recovered. He was on the list years ago,
attended Portland with us many times. He got me started in the old
engine hobby and I can say my life is better for having met him, I'll
miss him.
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From wilson at stny.rr.com  Sun Aug  5 05:45:43 2012
From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 08:45:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 60HP Fairbanks Semi-Diesel $1,000
Message-ID: <86A868CC-F390-4FEA-8798-856F9F78394A@stny.rr.com>

Life changes over time. As most of you know, my father and I drove to Arkansas to pick this engine up. It is now in Endicott, NY horizontal on a 12 ton trailer. The piston if froze (rusted) bottom dead center. I never tried to free it. The engine is missing unknown parts to make it run. I have a good grand into it. I think it weighs about 10 tons but not sure. Locally iron scraps fro 10 cents. I would rather see it go to an engine gut than the scrap yard. I'd let the trailer go for another $500. It is a 1972 8 wheel with a registration. I have no way to pick the engine up. In AR, I hired a crane. There are cranes around but I don't know what they charge. 

Sad to see it go but I am facing reality. 

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone


From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com  Sun Aug  5 06:20:24 2012
From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 09:20:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] 60HP Fairbanks Semi-Diesel $1,000
Message-ID: <b2d0.61086e61.3d4fcd17@aol.com>

Glenn
 
Do you have any photos of the engine?
 
Kevin K 
 
 
In a message dated 8/5/2012 8:50:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
wilson at stny.rr.com writes:

Life  changes over time. As most of you know, my father and I drove to 
Arkansas to  pick this engine up. It is now in Endicott, NY horizontal on a 12 
ton trailer.  The piston if froze (rusted) bottom dead center. I never tried 
to free it. The  engine is missing unknown parts to make it run. I have a 
good grand into it. I  think it weighs about 10 tons but not sure. Locally 
iron scraps fro 10 cents.  I would rather see it go to an engine gut than the 
scrap yard. I'd let the  trailer go for another $500. It is a 1972 8 wheel 
with a registration. I have  no way to pick the engine up. In AR, I hired a 
crane. There are cranes around  but I don't know what they charge. 

Sad to see it go but I am facing  reality. 

Glenn Wilson
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From wilson at stny.rr.com  Sun Aug  5 06:52:18 2012
From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 09:52:18 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 60HP Fairbanks Semi-Diesel $1,000
In-Reply-To: <b2d0.61086e61.3d4fcd17@aol.com>
References: <b2d0.61086e61.3d4fcd17@aol.com>
Message-ID: <FEF42FB8-2F39-4E18-907A-8368D60EF7BB@stny.rr.com>

Yes. Let me find them and I'll put them on the net. The trailer, by the way, is a 1970 General". About 15 years ago, I completely fixed it up with re-greasing the bearings new lights and paint but since then it has sat here. It dies have a registration. 

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:20 AM, BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote:

Glenn

Do you have any photos of the engine?

Kevin K 


In a message dated 8/5/2012 8:50:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
wilson at stny.rr.com writes:

Life  changes over time. As most of you know, my father and I drove to 
Arkansas to  pick this engine up. It is now in Endicott, NY horizontal on a 12 
ton trailer.  The piston if froze (rusted) bottom dead center. I never tried 
to free it. The  engine is missing unknown parts to make it run. I have a 
good grand into it. I  think it weighs about 10 tons but not sure. Locally 
iron scraps fro 10 cents.  I would rather see it go to an engine gut than the 
scrap yard. I'd let the  trailer go for another $500. It is a 1972 8 wheel 
with a registration. I have  no way to pick the engine up. In AR, I hired a 
crane. There are cranes around  but I don't know what they charge. 

Sad to see it go but I am facing  reality. 

Glenn Wilson
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From asouth42 at embarqmail.com  Sun Aug  5 08:26:24 2012
From: asouth42 at embarqmail.com (Arthur Southwell)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 11:26:24 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Lost a friend
In-Reply-To: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>
References: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>
Message-ID: <99DCFB47CE1A4B39987D00D932A2C26E@ArthurHP2>

JB,

I'm sorry to learn of Dick's passing. I always enjoyed talking with him when 
ever we would meet, be it at The Fla. Flywheelers show in Fla. or the 
Portland show in IN.

I'm sorry I didn't get to any of the LA shows while he was alive. My 
condolences to his family and many friends.

R.I.P. Dick.

Arthur Southwell
Arcadia, FL

-----Original Message----- 
From: jbcast at charter.net
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 6:47 AM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Lost a friend


Dickie Gibbens died yesterday a 3PM at his home. He fell Monday and
fractured his skull, never recovered. He was on the list years ago,
attended Portland with us many times. He got me started in the old
engine hobby and I can say my life is better for having met him, I'll
miss him.
J.B. Castagnos
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From rob at rustyiron.com  Sun Aug  5 08:26:47 2012
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 08:26:47 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Lost a friend
In-Reply-To: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>
References: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>
Message-ID: <2DABC4CC-C840-482F-A04C-73E7555948C9@rustyiron.com>

That?s quite a shock, JB.
I wish his family and friends well at a challenging time.
For those of us who remain, enjoy every sandwich.

Rob














From wilson at stny.rr.com  Sun Aug  5 09:15:25 2012
From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 12:15:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 60HP pictures
In-Reply-To: <FEF42FB8-2F39-4E18-907A-8368D60EF7BB@stny.rr.com>
References: <b2d0.61086e61.3d4fcd17@aol.com>
	<FEF42FB8-2F39-4E18-907A-8368D60EF7BB@stny.rr.com>
Message-ID: <3F8B6B33-CA5E-4626-973C-1E544989D8C8@stny.rr.com>

http://www.wilsonswarbler.com/60hp-fairbanks.html?m

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Glenn Wilson <wilson at stny.rr.com> wrote:

Yes. Let me find them and I'll put them on the net. The trailer, by the way, is a 1970 General". About 15 years ago, I completely fixed it up with re-greasing the bearings new lights and paint but since then it has sat here. It dies have a registration. 

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:20 AM, BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote:

Glenn

Do you have any photos of the engine?

Kevin K 


In a message dated 8/5/2012 8:50:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
wilson at stny.rr.com writes:

Life  changes over time. As most of you know, my father and I drove to 
Arkansas to  pick this engine up. It is now in Endicott, NY horizontal on a 12 
ton trailer.  The piston if froze (rusted) bottom dead center. I never tried 
to free it. The  engine is missing unknown parts to make it run. I have a 
good grand into it. I  think it weighs about 10 tons but not sure. Locally 
iron scraps fro 10 cents.  I would rather see it go to an engine gut than the 
scrap yard. I'd let the  trailer go for another $500. It is a 1972 8 wheel 
with a registration. I have  no way to pick the engine up. In AR, I hired a 
crane. There are cranes around  but I don't know what they charge. 

Sad to see it go but I am facing  reality. 

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my  iPhone
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From wilson at stny.rr.com  Sun Aug  5 11:47:43 2012
From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 14:47:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 60HP pictures
In-Reply-To: <3F8B6B33-CA5E-4626-973C-1E544989D8C8@stny.rr.com>
References: <b2d0.61086e61.3d4fcd17@aol.com>
	<FEF42FB8-2F39-4E18-907A-8368D60EF7BB@stny.rr.com>
	<3F8B6B33-CA5E-4626-973C-1E544989D8C8@stny.rr.com>
Message-ID: <33A8E45D-4A30-45AE-9F81-8A7FBB346AAC@stny.rr.com>

The 1970 trailer was completly gone through in 2002 in preparation for the AR trip so it was 10 years ago, not 15. 

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Glenn Wilson <wilson at stny.rr.com> wrote:

http://www.wilsonswarbler.com/60hp-fairbanks.html?m

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Glenn Wilson <wilson at stny.rr.com> wrote:

Yes. Let me find them and I'll put them on the net. The trailer, by the way, is a 1970 General". About 15 years ago, I completely fixed it up with re-greasing the bearings new lights and paint but since then it has sat here. It dies have a registration. 

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:20 AM, BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote:

Glenn

Do you have any photos of the engine?

Kevin K 


In a message dated 8/5/2012 8:50:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
wilson at stny.rr.com writes:

Life  changes over time. As most of you know, my father and I drove to 
Arkansas to  pick this engine up. It is now in Endicott, NY horizontal on a 12 
ton trailer.  The piston if froze (rusted) bottom dead center. I never tried 
to free it. The  engine is missing unknown parts to make it run. I have a 
good grand into it. I  think it weighs about 10 tons but not sure. Locally 
iron scraps fro 10 cents.  I would rather see it go to an engine gut than the 
scrap yard. I'd let the  trailer go for another $500. It is a 1972 8 wheel 
with a registration. I have  no way to pick the engine up. In AR, I hired a 
crane. There are cranes around  but I don't know what they charge. 

Sad to see it go but I am facing  reality. 

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my  iPhone
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From FRM8198 at aol.com  Sun Aug  5 13:14:18 2012
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 16:14:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] 60HP pictures
Message-ID: <166bf.4283a98c.3d502e1a@aol.com>

Thanks.
 
Francis Maciel
 
 
In a message dated 8/5/2012 9:20:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
wilson at stny.rr.com writes:

http://www.wilsonswarbler.com/60hp-fairbanks.html


From jbcast at charter.net  Sun Aug  5 18:25:51 2012
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 21:25:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] 60HP pictures
Message-ID: <31dd364f.2274b7.138f989c162.Webtop.45@charter.net>

There was an engine like this in an old pump shed, saw it about 15 years 
ago. It was torn apart, rod bearing was burnt, injection system was 
missing. My guess is it's still there, if parts are needed I'll try to 
get there again.
J.B. Castagnos

On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Glenn Wilson wrote:

> The 1970 trailer was completly gone through in 2002 in preparation for 
> the AR trip so it was 10 years ago, not 15.
> Glenn Wilson
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 5, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Glenn Wilson <wilson at stny.rr.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.wilsonswarbler.com/60hp-fairbanks.html?m
>
> Glenn Wilson
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Glenn Wilson <wilson at stny.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Yes. Let me find them and I'll put them on the net. The trailer, by 
> the way, is a 1970 General". About 15 years ago, I completely fixed it 
> up with re-greasing the bearings new lights and paint but since then 
> it has sat here. It dies have a registration.
> Glenn Wilson
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:20 AM, BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote:
>
> Glenn
>
> Do you have any photos of the engine?
>
> Kevin K
>
> In a message dated 8/5/2012 8:50:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> wilson at stny.rr.com writes:
>
> Life  changes over time. As most of you know, my father and I drove to 
> Arkansas to  pick this engine up. It is now in Endicott, NY horizontal 
> on a 12 ton trailer.  The piston if froze (rusted) bottom dead center. 
> I never tried to free it. The  engine is missing unknown parts to make 
> it run. I have a good grand into it. I  think it weighs about 10 tons 
> but not sure. Locally iron scraps fro 10 cents.  I would rather see it 
> go to an engine gut than the scrap yard. I'd let the  trailer go for 
> another $500. It is a 1972 8 wheel with a registration. I have  no way 
> to pick the engine up. In AR, I hired a crane. There are cranes around 
> but I don't know what they charge.
> Sad to see it go but I am facing  reality.
> Glenn Wilson
> Sent from my  iPhone
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From curt at rustyiron.com  Sun Aug  5 19:06:05 2012
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 22:06:05 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Lost a friend
In-Reply-To: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>
References: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>
Message-ID: <59e46b31516e7a89277b098b4666b478.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>

JB,
SO sorry to hear this. Dick was one of the first people I met in the
hobby, long before knowing anything about the SEL. I used to see and talk
with him at the Portland swap meet in the spring, long before the
Parkinson's began to take it's toll.
When our little group toured engine collections two years ago, I am
thankful you included Dick's place in the stops. He enjoyed having us all
there as much as we enjoying being there. Would never have guessed this
would be the last time many of us would see him. His wife was such a
wonderful host to us all, and breakfast on that gorgeous porch, surrounded
with wonderful friends is a wonderful memory I'll carry forever. Indeed we
will miss him.
Curt Holland



>
> Dickie Gibbens died yesterday a 3PM at his home. He fell Monday and
> fractured his skull, never recovered. He was on the list years ago,
> attended Portland with us many times. He got me started in the old
> engine hobby and I can say my life is better for having met him, I'll
> miss him.
> J.B. Castagnos
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>




From wilson at stny.rr.com  Sun Aug  5 19:07:41 2012
From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 22:07:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 60HP pictures
In-Reply-To: <31dd364f.2274b7.138f989c162.Webtop.45@charter.net>
References: <31dd364f.2274b7.138f989c162.Webtop.45@charter.net>
Message-ID: <351332AC-F358-4B11-B1FC-548A2A666E10@stny.rr.com>

That engine would sure help whomever ends up putting this one back together. 
Thank you. 

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:25 PM, jbcast at charter.net wrote:

There was an engine like this in an old pump shed, saw it about 15 years 
ago. It was torn apart, rod bearing was burnt, injection system was 
missing. My guess is it's still there, if parts are needed I'll try to 
get there again.
J.B. Castagnos

On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Glenn Wilson wrote:

> The 1970 trailer was completly gone through in 2002 in preparation for 
> the AR trip so it was 10 years ago, not 15.
> Glenn Wilson
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 5, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Glenn Wilson <wilson at stny.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> http://www.wilsonswarbler.com/60hp-fairbanks.html?m
> 
> Glenn Wilson
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Glenn Wilson <wilson at stny.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes. Let me find them and I'll put them on the net. The trailer, by 
> the way, is a 1970 General". About 15 years ago, I completely fixed it 
> up with re-greasing the bearings new lights and paint but since then 
> it has sat here. It dies have a registration.
> Glenn Wilson
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:20 AM, BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote:
> 
> Glenn
> 
> Do you have any photos of the engine?
> 
> Kevin K
> 
> In a message dated 8/5/2012 8:50:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> wilson at stny.rr.com writes:
> 
> Life  changes over time. As most of you know, my father and I drove to 
> Arkansas to  pick this engine up. It is now in Endicott, NY horizontal 
> on a 12 ton trailer.  The piston if froze (rusted) bottom dead center. 
> I never tried to free it. The  engine is missing unknown parts to make 
> it run. I have a good grand into it. I  think it weighs about 10 tons 
> but not sure. Locally iron scraps fro 10 cents.  I would rather see it 
> go to an engine gut than the scrap yard. I'd let the  trailer go for 
> another $500. It is a 1972 8 wheel with a registration. I have  no way 
> to pick the engine up. In AR, I hired a crane. There are cranes around 
> but I don't know what they charge.
> Sad to see it go but I am facing  reality.
> Glenn Wilson
> Sent from my  iPhone
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
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From rotigel at me.com  Mon Aug  6 05:17:39 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 08:17:39 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Lost a friend
In-Reply-To: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>
References: <42e659dd.21cd6b.138f665ac3f.Webtop.47@charter.net>
Message-ID: <B21F3214-0617-4FC2-98D4-1469CA446A3A@me.com>

Dickie was a good man. HE WILL BE MISSED!
	Dave

On Aug 5, 2012, at 6:47 AM, jbcast at charter.net wrote:

> 
> Dickie Gibbens died yesterday a 3PM at his home. He fell Monday and 
> fractured his skull, never recovered. He was on the list years ago, 
> attended Portland with us many times. He got me started in the old 
> engine hobby and I can say my life is better for having met him, I'll 
> miss him.
> J.B. Castagnos


From frappi at wcoil.com  Mon Aug  6 06:04:57 2012
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 09:04:57 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Magneto Application
In-Reply-To: <282E0DC5-94C7-429D-866B-4D08DB613111@me.com>
References: <8F21D1084E187F4EAE2C050F483B839A093A12FA@EXMAIL2.ohio.edu>
	<5013653E.5050105@accnorwalk.com>
	<604942240-1343471012-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-396895150-@b27.c17.bise6.blackberry>
	<5013D406.7070905@accnorwalk.com>
	<0244723E-B2B7-420A-A18D-B9F720F0EA75@me.com>
	<087471EB2AE94FF7B04320350B3C84EC@RogerDiRusciPC>
	<282E0DC5-94C7-429D-866B-4D08DB613111@me.com>
Message-ID: <20120806130454.6B04A9DE4@smtp.wcoil.com>



Hi All, I have a Webster SE3 Magneto and I would like to hear about 
what these were used on. Thanks,  Mark




Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home
Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere
and Hercules Engines.
Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com  



From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Tue Aug  7 06:25:19 2012
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 07:25:19 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Rod end babbitt in 3hp Galloway
Message-ID: <SNT143-ds1EED620E2904B0F415121BBCE0@phx.gbl>


  G'day all;
  Well I finally got a rod and piston for the "Bulldog" Galloway and it has 
no babbitt on either side.  I'm at a loss here as I've never started from 
scratch so going to need some help.  I have poured mains and such but never 
done a rod.

  Any help would greatly be appreciated.

Best regards,
RickinMt. 



From curt at rustyiron.com  Tue Aug  7 18:45:29 2012
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 21:45:29 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Rod end babbitt in 3hp Galloway
In-Reply-To: <SNT143-ds1EED620E2904B0F415121BBCE0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT143-ds1EED620E2904B0F415121BBCE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <ee8fc423cd8f0ef9e366364c11c563ee.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>


Rick,
On this link scroll down to the 6/24/05 date. There are 8 photos of
pouring the Babbitt in the big end. It's still running great.

<http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/DevinsBakerMonitorRebuild/Thumbnails.html>

Curt Holland
Bessemer City, NC


>
>   G'day all;
>   Well I finally got a rod and piston for the "Bulldog" Galloway and it
> has
> no babbitt on either side.  I'm at a loss here as I've never started from
> scratch so going to need some help.  I have poured mains and such but
> never
> done a rod.
>
>   Any help would greatly be appreciated.
>
> Best regards,
> RickinMt.
>
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From kast13iron at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  9 18:21:13 2012
From: kast13iron at yahoo.com (J)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 18:21:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Magneto Application
In-Reply-To: <20120806130454.6B04A9DE4@smtp.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <1344561673.37703.YahooMailClassic@web140701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Mark, Can you send or post some pics of this mag ? Is it rotary or oscillating ??? Low or high tension ??? Want to see pic from base bottom, how it mounts & other sides also.? I may have an educated guess for you if can see pic, another collector & I were just discussing a probably similar mag last Sat & our versions differ due to mounting ???
?
John
?
?
?
?
--- On Mon, 8/6/12, Mark Shulaw <frappi at wcoil.com> wrote:


From: Mark Shulaw <frappi at wcoil.com>
Subject: [SEL] Magneto Application
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Monday, August 6, 2012, 1:04 PM




Hi All, I have a Webster SE3 Magneto and I would like to hear about 
what these were used on. Thanks,? Mark




Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206? Home
Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere
and Hercules Engines.
Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at? www.Maytagclub.com? 

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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Thu Aug  9 20:00:29 2012
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 21:00:29 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Rod end babbitt in 3hp Galloway
In-Reply-To: <SNT143-ds1EED620E2904B0F415121BBCE0@phx.gbl>
	<ee8fc423cd8f0ef9e366364c11c563ee.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
References: <SNT143-ds1EED620E2904B0F415121BBCE0@phx.gbl>
	<ee8fc423cd8f0ef9e366364c11c563ee.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
Message-ID: <SNT143-ds217A915F28B579D075D609BBB30@phx.gbl>

Thanks Curt...gear mesh was something I would have not considered.

Rick


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <curt at rustyiron.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Rod end babbitt in 3hp Galloway


>
> Rick,
> On this link scroll down to the 6/24/05 date. There are 8 photos of
> pouring the Babbitt in the big end. It's still running great.
>
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/holland/images/DevinsBakerMonitorRebuild/Thumbnails.html>
>
> Curt Holland
> Bessemer City, NC
>
>
> >
> >   G'day all;
> >   Well I finally got a rod and piston for the "Bulldog" Galloway and it
> > has
> > no babbitt on either side.  I'm at a loss here as I've never started 
> > from
> > scratch so going to need some help.  I have poured mains and such but
> > never
> > done a rod.
> >
> >   Any help would greatly be appreciated.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > RickinMt.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> >
>
>
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> 


From Germoamer at aol.com  Fri Aug 10 08:23:04 2012
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:23:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] steam engine for sale
Message-ID: <3fa84.783a3724.3d568158@aol.com>

_http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/atq/3195806750.html_ 
(http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/atq/3195806750.html) 
 
Anybody interested in a steam engine?  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord, Va.  
germoamer at aol.com


From edstoller at earthlink.net  Fri Aug 10 08:46:50 2012
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed Stoller)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:46:50 -0400
Subject: [SEL] steam engine for sale
References: <3fa84.783a3724.3d568158@aol.com>
Message-ID: <9A9683830ED14D678950E9F7CCB05EAA@edlaptop>

I have a little steam engine I plan to bring to Portland, Ind and need an 
air source to run it. I can send the details off list.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield,  CT,   USA
www.enginesandmagnets.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Germoamer at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 11:23 AM
Subject: [SEL] steam engine for sale


> _http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/atq/3195806750.html_
> (http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/atq/3195806750.html)
>
> Anybody interested in a steam engine?
>
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord, Va.
> germoamer at aol.com
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sat Aug 11 10:09:51 2012
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:09:51 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Innovative hybrid technology
Message-ID: <20120811.100956.1558.28572@mailpop09.vgs.untd.com>








Be sure and watch the video too.

On the plus side.

Affordable
Can retrofit to existing cars.
Separate system from existing drive train.

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/06/student-hybrid-car-project-coul
d-bring-millions-to-tennessee-university/?intcmp=features
____________________________________________________________
Woman is 57 But Looks 27
Mom publishes simple facelift trick that angered doctors...
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5026921249316121229b0st01vuc

From rotigel at me.com  Sat Aug 11 12:08:36 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:08:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Innovative hybrid technology
In-Reply-To: <20120811.100956.1558.28572@mailpop09.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20120811.100956.1558.28572@mailpop09.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <DEF52E84-5EAE-44A6-AEA1-5B6CACEDD1E7@me.com>

WOW Ron and a "range of 30 to 35 miles per charge."
	Dave
PS, Please contact me off list. I have a bridge for sale!
PPS, I'll pass on the electric motor add on but could well be interested in the 57 year old women who looks 27. Please send pictures.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/06/student-hybrid-car-project-could-bring-millions-to-tennessee-university/?intcmp=features#ixzz23GXVGbfV
On Aug 11, 2012, at 1:09 PM, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Be sure and watch the video too.
> 
> On the plus side.
> 
> Affordable
> Can retrofit to existing cars.
> Separate system from existing drive train.
> 
> http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/06/student-hybrid-car-project-coul
> d-bring-millions-to-tennessee-university/?intcmp=features
> ____________________________________________________________
> Woman is 57 But Looks 27
> Mom publishes simple facelift trick that angered doctors...
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5026921249316121229b0st01vuc



From rotigel at me.com  Sun Aug 12 05:21:19 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 08:21:19 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Room
Message-ID: <AC25E9D8-3B03-4570-8008-C400323E3B70@me.com>

Hi Gang,
	 It appears that I have reservations for an extra room at Portland at the Super 8 for August 20th (Mon.) through August 25th (leaving Sunday morning.) If anyone needs this room let me know ASAP. If I hear nothing by tomorrow evening I will call Rag and tell him that the room is no longer needed. You can contact me off list at: rotigel at me.com



From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 12 05:34:56 2012
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 05:34:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Innovative hybrid technology
In-Reply-To: <DEF52E84-5EAE-44A6-AEA1-5B6CACEDD1E7@me.com>
Message-ID: <1344774896.94103.YahooMailClassic@web111720.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

What put it in the trash can for me was the, "speeds below 45 mph".
Sure if you live in a large city and only use it there,,,,,,,,
Speed limit between here and town is 55 MPH but my F-150 would get run over if I drove that speed. Just driving with the pack I hit 70 to 75 MPH every morning.
?
Alan in Michigan
?

--- On Sat, 8/11/12, Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:


From: Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Innovative hybrid technology
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, August 11, 2012, 3:08 PM


WOW Ron and a "range of 30 to 35 miles per charge."
??? Dave
PS, Please contact me off list. I have a bridge for sale!
PPS, I'll pass on the electric motor add on but could well be interested in the 57 year old women who looks 27. Please send pictures.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/06/student-hybrid-car-project-could-bring-millions-to-tennessee-university/?intcmp=features#ixzz23GXVGbfV
On Aug 11, 2012, at 1:09 PM, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Be sure and watch the video too.
> 
> On the plus side.
> 
> Affordable
> Can retrofit to existing cars.
> Separate system from existing drive train.
> 
> http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/06/student-hybrid-car-project-coul
> d-bring-millions-to-tennessee-university/?intcmp=features
> ____________________________________________________________
> Woman is 57 But Looks 27
> Mom publishes simple facelift trick that angered doctors...
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5026921249316121229b0st01vuc

_______________________________________________
SEL mailing list
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From rotigel at me.com  Sun Aug 12 13:37:27 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:37:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] guns welcome sign
In-Reply-To: <FA0DD6AD-2051-48B4-8E45-2033444C33B5@me.com>
References: <2ED9ABA1577C4B1E86F509E7EA1AD398@JIMDUNMYER>
	<FA0DD6AD-2051-48B4-8E45-2033444C33B5@me.com>
Message-ID: <14D35542-4D7E-45FE-A2E3-2D40D962D244@me.com>

I will have laminated copies for anyone who wants them at Baraboo and Portland!
	Dave

On Jul 31, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote:

> Decided that I wanted one and BINGO I found it. And not that expensive either! See: http://www.compliancesigns.com/NHE-16347.shtml THANKS Jim!
> 	Dave
> 
> On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Jim Dunmyer wrote:
> 
>> see: http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2012/07/a_nice_welcomin.php
>>  
>>  
> 



From Germoamer at aol.com  Mon Aug 13 04:51:19 2012
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 07:51:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] olympics OT
Message-ID: <a5c25.72f3cbe0.3d5a4436@aol.com>

Congratulations to the Britts on the fantastic Olympic  games.  Such great 
talented people from the "flying squirrel" from Virginia  to the "blade 
runner" from South Africa and all others from all over the world  showing off 
their years of training and dedication to the sports.  Must be  a tremendous 
feeling to be the top persons/groups in the world with the winning  of the 
medals.  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord, Va.  
germoamer at aol.com


From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Mon Aug 13 06:04:53 2012
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:04:53 +0100
Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Re=3A__olympics_OT?=
In-Reply-To: <a5c25.72f3cbe0.3d5a4436@aol.com>
References: <a5c25.72f3cbe0.3d5a4436@aol.com>
Message-ID: <7B54C84082BC4B058F18D908C61B3C71@BTDAVEPC>

Hi Tom, We English have hoped for a secure event & think we managed it!
(I hope the start & finish shows didn't cause too much mental damage).
The main effect seems to have people using strange arm waving in the street,
See
http://media.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/selections/mo-and-usains-doubletribute-3551620.html

--------------------------------------------------
From: <Germoamer at aol.com>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 12:51 PM
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: [SEL] olympics OT

> Congratulations to the Britts on the fantastic Olympic  games.  Such great
> talented people from the "flying squirrel" from Virginia  to the "blade
> runner" from South Africa and all others from all over the world  showing
> off
> their years of training and dedication to the sports.  Must be  a
> tremendous
> feeling to be the top persons/groups in the world with the winning  of the
> medals.
>
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord, Va.
> germoamer at aol.com
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 13 06:43:28 2012
From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:43:28 +0000
Subject: [SEL] olympics OT
In-Reply-To: <a5c25.72f3cbe0.3d5a4436@aol.com>
References: <a5c25.72f3cbe0.3d5a4436@aol.com>
Message-ID: <SNT107-W34631C1160FECBF14C14BBD0B00@phx.gbl>


There is a lot of feeling that it was an elitist affair considering the ticket charges and allotment.  It has plunged our country into further Ziodept and the promised financial profits have been so far negative.   John

> From: Germoamer at aol.com
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 07:51:19 -0400
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] olympics OT
> 
> Congratulations to the Britts on the fantastic Olympic  games.  Such great 
> talented people from the "flying squirrel" from Virginia  to the "blade 
> runner" from South Africa and all others from all over the world  showing off 
> their years of training and dedication to the sports.  Must be  a tremendous 
> feeling to be the top persons/groups in the world with the winning  of the 
> medals.  
> 
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord, Va.  
> germoamer at aol.com
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From frappi at wcoil.com  Mon Aug 13 08:13:43 2012
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:13:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Magneto Application
In-Reply-To: <1344561673.37703.YahooMailClassic@web140701.mail.bf1.yahoo .com>
References: <20120806130454.6B04A9DE4@smtp.wcoil.com>
	<1344561673.37703.YahooMailClassic@web140701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20120813151340.96E76A05F@smtp.wcoil.com>


Its been said to be a Mag for the Ignitor fired two cylinder Edwards 
Engine Springfield Ohio


At 09:21 PM 8/9/2012, you wrote:
>Mark, Can you send or post some pics of this mag ? Is it rotary or 
>oscillating ?   Low or high tension ?   Want to see pic from base 
>bottom, how it mounts & other sides also.  I may have an educated 
>guess for you if can see pic, another collector & I were just 
>discussing a probably similar mag last Sat & our versions differ due 
>to mounting ???
>
>John
>
>
>
>
>--- On Mon, 8/6/12, Mark Shulaw <frappi at wcoil.com> wrote:
>
>
>From: Mark Shulaw <frappi at wcoil.com>
>Subject: [SEL] Magneto Application
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Date: Monday, August 6, 2012, 1:04 PM
>
>
>
>
>Hi All, I have a Webster SE3 Magneto and I would like to hear about
>what these were used on. Thanks,  Mark
>
>
>
>
>Mark Shulaw
>454 County Road 33
>Bluffton, OH. 45817
>USA
>
>Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home
>Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere
>and Hercules Engines.
>Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
>VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com
>
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Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home
Hobby Collector and Dealer in John Deere
and Hercules Engines.
Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com  



From rob at rustyiron.com  Mon Aug 13 09:30:14 2012
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:30:14 -0700
Subject: [SEL] It's HOT out!
Message-ID: <6BD57660-2000-462E-BEA0-20A47255DCBB@rustyiron.com>

We?re in the middle of summer. The lawn needs mowing, the house needs painting, and the engines need cleaning. Are you taking care of yourself when you?re out there in the blazing sun? The vast majority of people live their lives in a perpetual state of under-hydration, which can lead to a long list of medical maladies and can become deadly in the heat of summer. 

A person working or playing in the heat can require a quart of water per hour. Many people don?t consume a quart of water per DAY, which makes them extremely susceptible to heat related illness. 

Maintaining optimum health during periods of high temperatures requires more than common sense. It requires proper planning, attention to physical symptoms, and intelligent response to those symptoms. 

Here is a little more on the subject:
http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/enviromentalissues/a/Exercise_Heat.htm

Let?s all enjoy our summer, our engine shows, our play time, and let?s do it in good health. 

--
Rob Skinner
www.rustyiron.com







From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Aug 13 11:03:18 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:03:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] It's HOT out!
In-Reply-To: <6BD57660-2000-462E-BEA0-20A47255DCBB@rustyiron.com>
References: <6BD57660-2000-462E-BEA0-20A47255DCBB@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <44b705383de986316b52ad3ac35aa8d1.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

Rob,

As we're coming up on two major engine shows; Baraboo & Portland, this is
VERY timely advice.  I'd like to share some of the tips that Dave and
I have developed over the years of attending engine shows.

Rule 1:  Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate.  We typically bring LARGE coolers
that will hold at least two cases of beer.  There is nothing worse than
running out and risking dehydration.

Rule 2:  Avoid Hyponatremia by drinking beer instead of water.  To insure
an adequate intake of sodium be sure to eat lots of chips (crisps for the
Brits & Ozzies).
http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/hydrationandfluid/a/Hyponatremia.htm

Rule 3:  Minimize physical activity.  When going to a series of long
engine shows, bring your most reliable engines.  That way you do the
strenuous starting work early in the morning while it's cool.  The
engines then run all day and you can sit in the shade, hydrate, and
watch the pretty young women walking by.  Also plan to walk the sales
area during the morning when it's cooler.

With proper attention to these details, one can enjoy the engine shows
and not run the risks of under-hydration.

See ya,  Arnie

On Mon, August 13, 2012 12:30 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:
> We?re in the middle of summer. The lawn needs mowing, the house needs
> painting, and the engines need cleaning. Are you taking care of yourself
> when you?re out there in the blazing sun? The vast majority of people live
> their lives in a perpetual state of under-hydration, which can lead to a
> long list of medical maladies and can become deadly in the heat of summer.
>
> A person working or playing in the heat can require a quart of water per
> hour. Many people don?t consume a quart of water per DAY, which makes them
> extremely susceptible to heat related illness.
>
> Maintaining optimum health during periods of high temperatures requires
> more than common sense. It requires proper planning, attention to physical
> symptoms, and intelligent response to those symptoms.
>
> Here is a little more on the subject:
> http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/enviromentalissues/a/Exercise_Heat.htm
>
> Let?s all enjoy our summer, our engine shows, our play time, and let?s do
> it in good health.




From rob at rustyiron.com  Mon Aug 13 12:30:27 2012
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:30:27 -0700
Subject: [SEL] It's HOT out!
In-Reply-To: <44b705383de986316b52ad3ac35aa8d1.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <6BD57660-2000-462E-BEA0-20A47255DCBB@rustyiron.com>
	<44b705383de986316b52ad3ac35aa8d1.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <ECECDA80-9B0B-4772-B639-561145E54FA5@rustyiron.com>


On Aug 13, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
> The engines then run all day and you can sit in the shade, hydrate, and
> watch the pretty young women walking by. 


Arnie, Arnie, Arnie? Have you forgotten everything that I taught you?

Here in SoCal, we believe that sharing is caring. We would NEVER sit idle as the pretty young women walked by. We would invite them into our display area and offer them cool beverages from our beer coolers to keep them hydrated. And if they need further cooling by dampening their t-shirts, we would assist in that area, as well. It?s the gentlemanly thing to do. 







From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Aug 13 13:23:51 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:23:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] It's HOT out!
In-Reply-To: <ECECDA80-9B0B-4772-B639-561145E54FA5@rustyiron.com>
References: <6BD57660-2000-462E-BEA0-20A47255DCBB@rustyiron.com>
	<44b705383de986316b52ad3ac35aa8d1.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
	<ECECDA80-9B0B-4772-B639-561145E54FA5@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <7dbfa382d8d0d3336df54155d16e9111.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

Rob, Rob, Rob,

OF COURSE we do all that stuff.  What do you think we are, cretins?
I just didn't want to mention it thereby causing all of the OTHER engine
folk out there to begin to do the same.

Thanks for crushing our monopoly....

See ya,  Arnie

On Mon, August 13, 2012 3:30 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:
>
> On Aug 13, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
>> The engines then run all day and you can sit in the shade, hydrate, and
>> watch the pretty young women walking by.
>
>
> Arnie, Arnie, Arnie
 Have you forgotten everything that I taught you?
>
> Here in SoCal, we believe that sharing is caring. We would NEVER sit idle
> as the pretty young women walked by. We would invite them into our display
> area and offer them cool beverages from our beer coolers to keep them
> hydrated. And if they need further cooling by dampening their t-shirts, we
> would assist in that area, as well. It?s the gentlemanly thing to do.




From rob at rustyiron.com  Mon Aug 13 13:37:31 2012
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:37:31 -0700
Subject: [SEL] It's HOT out!
In-Reply-To: <7dbfa382d8d0d3336df54155d16e9111.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <6BD57660-2000-462E-BEA0-20A47255DCBB@rustyiron.com>
	<44b705383de986316b52ad3ac35aa8d1.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
	<ECECDA80-9B0B-4772-B639-561145E54FA5@rustyiron.com>
	<7dbfa382d8d0d3336df54155d16e9111.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <14AE2D81-A3AB-4A29-A3D7-197C864B3272@rustyiron.com>


On Aug 13, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
> 
> OF COURSE we do all that stuff.  What do you think we are, cretins?
> I just didn't want to mention it thereby causing all of the OTHER engine
> folk out there to begin to do the same.
> 
> Thanks for crushing our monopoly....


Don?t sweat it, bro. When you possess savoir faire and good looks, as we do, those other guys don?t stand a chance.





From Frank at lbpinc.com  Tue Aug 14 09:06:24 2012
From: Frank at lbpinc.com (Frank DeWitt LBP)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:06:24 -0400
Subject: [SEL] olympics OT
In-Reply-To: <SNT107-W34631C1160FECBF14C14BBD0B00@phx.gbl>
References: <a5c25.72f3cbe0.3d5a4436@aol.com>
	<SNT107-W34631C1160FECBF14C14BBD0B00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <502A7780.102@lbpinc.com>

Has any country ever made money by hosting the Olympics?

Frank

On 8/13/2012 9:43 AM, john palmer wrote:
> There is a lot of feeling that it was an elitist affair considering the ticket charges and allotment.  It has plunged our country into further Ziodept and the promised financial profits have been so far negative.   John
>
>    
>> From: Germoamer at aol.com
>> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 07:51:19 -0400
>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> Subject: [SEL] olympics OT
>>
>> Congratulations to the Britts on the fantastic Olympic  games.  Such great
>> talented people from the "flying squirrel" from Virginia  to the "blade
>> runner" from South Africa and all others from all over the world  showing off
>> their years of training and dedication to the sports.  Must be  a tremendous
>> feeling to be the top persons/groups in the world with the winning  of the
>> medals.
>>
>> Tom  Schmutz
>> Concord, Va.
>> germoamer at aol.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>      
>   		 	   		
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>    

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From George.Best at adp.com  Tue Aug 14 09:43:17 2012
From: George.Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:43:17 -0500
Subject: [SEL] olympics OT
In-Reply-To: <502A7780.102@lbpinc.com>
References: <a5c25.72f3cbe0.3d5a4436@aol.com>
	<SNT107-W34631C1160FECBF14C14BBD0B00@phx.gbl> <502A7780.102@lbpinc.com>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD4148CDBE692@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Don't know that the country makes any money, but you can be sure that many businesses and people associated with the Olympics make a lot of money from it.

George


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Frank DeWitt LBP
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:06 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] olympics OT

Has any country ever made money by hosting the Olympics?

Frank

On 8/13/2012 9:43 AM, john palmer wrote:
> There is a lot of feeling that it was an elitist affair considering the ticket charges and allotment.  It has plunged our country into further Ziodept and the promised financial profits have been so far negative.   John
>
>    
>> From: Germoamer at aol.com
>> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 07:51:19 -0400
>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> Subject: [SEL] olympics OT
>>
>> Congratulations to the Britts on the fantastic Olympic  games.  Such 
>> great talented people from the "flying squirrel" from Virginia  to 
>> the "blade runner" from South Africa and all others from all over the 
>> world  showing off their years of training and dedication to the 
>> sports.  Must be  a tremendous feeling to be the top persons/groups 
>> in the world with the winning  of the medals.
>>
>> Tom  Schmutz
>> Concord, Va.
>> germoamer at aol.com
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From swebre at hotmail.com  Tue Aug 14 11:14:38 2012
From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:14:38 +0000
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 101, Issue 11
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2.1344960001.7314.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
References: <mailman.2.1344960001.7314.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <SNT125-W30E88F314094F106879FF7DBB70@phx.gbl>


Arnie, > Rule 3:  Minimize physical activity.  When going to a series of long engine shows, bring your most reliable engines.After watching you at the SIAM show, what are you babbling about?   You can't be talking about the Novo.   Remember what those two cute girls asked you? Go on.  Tell the group...  -Steve- 
  On Aug 13, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
> 
> OF COURSE we do all that stuff.  What do you think we are, cretins?
> I just didn't want to mention it thereby causing all of the OTHER engine
> folk out there to begin to do the same.
> 
> Thanks for crushing our monopoly....
 
 
Don?t sweat it, bro. When you possess savoir faire and good looks, as we do, those other guys don?t stand a chance.
 
 
 
 
 		 	   		  

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Aug 14 20:03:53 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 23:03:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 101, Issue 11
In-Reply-To: <SNT125-W30E88F314094F106879FF7DBB70@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.2.1344960001.7314.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
	<SNT125-W30E88F314094F106879FF7DBB70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <39989a3607eff4565ae6e14226eed230.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com>

SETUP!!  Pure SETUP!!

Simpering sweet young thing sidles up to the Novo and asks
ever so sweetly...  "Mister, do ANY of your engines run?"

While I'm up to my elbows in grease trying to get the fuel
pump check balls unstuck...

And that sound in the background you ask?
My best friends (back by the beer coolers).
Fortunately, caught on tape...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uSTOHa4Im4

See ya,  Arnie

On Tue, August 14, 2012 2:14 pm, Steve Webre wrote:
>
>> Arnie, > Rule 3:  Minimize physical activity.
>>  When going to a series of long engine shows,
>>  bring your most reliable engines.

> After watching you at the SIAM show, what are
> you babbling about?   You can't be talking about
> the Novo.  Remember what those two cute girls
> asked you? Go on.  Tell the group...  -Steve-





From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Wed Aug 15 06:57:43 2012
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:57:43 -0600
Subject: [SEL] New belting
Message-ID: <SNT143-ds168F42EB29EB958D49CEC2BBB60@phx.gbl>


 Howdee all;
   Need some belting for our Galloway Sawrig and we have no close supplier 
to our knowledge that's within reason.  Is there a supplier west of the big 
river that caters to our hobby?  H&M doesn't do too bad with $5.50 a foot 
for 6 inch.

  Just thought I'd ask first.

Regards,
RickinMt. 



From oldironnut at windstream.net  Wed Aug 15 12:55:56 2012
From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:55:56 -0400
Subject: [SEL] New belting
In-Reply-To: <SNT143-ds168F42EB29EB958D49CEC2BBB60@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT143-ds168F42EB29EB958D49CEC2BBB60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <73BE4D8A-9384-42B0-A65F-CF2FADD6AE64@windstream.net>

Rick,

If you want something that works great (but is not original equipment) go to a Tractor Supply and get the 6" wide flat belting for a round baler. It's the black rubber stuff that they sell by the foot.

Mike

On Aug 15, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Richard Strobel <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com> wrote:

> 
> Howdee all;
>   Need some belting for our Galloway Sawrig and we have no close supplier 
> to our knowledge that's within reason.  Is there a supplier west of the big 
> river that caters to our hobby?  H&M doesn't do too bad with $5.50 a foot 
> for 6 inch.
> 
>  Just thought I'd ask first.
> 
> Regards,
> RickinMt. 
> 
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From blcksmth at wcnet.org  Wed Aug 15 13:11:02 2012
From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:11:02 -0400
Subject: [SEL] New belting
In-Reply-To: <73BE4D8A-9384-42B0-A65F-CF2FADD6AE64@windstream.net>
References: <SNT143-ds168F42EB29EB958D49CEC2BBB60@phx.gbl>
	<73BE4D8A-9384-42B0-A65F-CF2FADD6AE64@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <502C0256.7060904@wcnet.org>

Our local Tractor Supply has discontinued the bulk baler belting in 7 
inch and 10 inch widths. They now have pre-cut lengths in both widths. 
I'm not sure what the fixed lengths are. The remaining bulk rolls were 
discounted last time I was there.

Bob Willman
The Eagle?s Anvil
Bowling Green, Ohio
WB8NQW

Before any man can be considered as a member of civil society,
he must be considered as a subject of the Governor of the Universe.

James Madison

On 8/15/2012 3:55 PM, Michael Tucker wrote:
> Rick,
>
> If you want something that works great (but is not original equipment) go to a Tractor Supply and get the 6" wide flat belting for a round baler. It's the black rubber stuff that they sell by the foot.
>
> Mike
>
> On Aug 15, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Richard Strobel <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com> wrote:
>
>> Howdee all;
>>    Need some belting for our Galloway Sawrig and we have no close supplier
>> to our knowledge that's within reason.  Is there a supplier west of the big
>> river that caters to our hobby?  H&M doesn't do too bad with $5.50 a foot
>> for 6 inch.
>>
>>   Just thought I'd ask first.
>>
>> Regards,
>> RickinMt.
>>
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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Thu Aug 16 07:52:35 2012
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 08:52:35 -0600
Subject: [SEL] New belting
In-Reply-To: <SNT143-ds168F42EB29EB958D49CEC2BBB60@phx.gbl>
	<502BAC01.1060004@fairpoint.net>
	<EB63FB5E-B124-4B5D-A75E-C53CDCA010A6@rustyiron.com>
References: <SNT143-ds168F42EB29EB958D49CEC2BBB60@phx.gbl>
	<502BAC01.1060004@fairpoint.net>
	<EB63FB5E-B124-4B5D-A75E-C53CDCA010A6@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <SNT143-ds20E3B8CAF4C27CE3FB188DBBB50@phx.gbl>

Thanks for the replies guys...very cool !!

Rob, thanks but I need 6"

Elden, I have no clue what SBR rubber is and leather stretch's something 
fierce.  I use McMaster all the time as their shipping to my door is less 
than I can drive to town and back.   Thanks much.

Rupert...I surely appreciate your offer...very nice.

  I went ahead and ordered from HitnMiss as I like catering to those 
suppliers who support our hobby.  Put past experiences to the wind and 
hopefully will get the belt in a timely matter.

Take care ya'll....life is good.

RickinMt.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Skinner" <rob at rustyiron.com>
To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: New belting


If you act fast?
http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=71346 



From George.Best at adp.com  Thu Aug 16 08:09:23 2012
From: George.Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:09:23 -0500
Subject: [SEL] National show - was   New belting
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD4148CFD66F1@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Rick,

Are you going to be at the EDGETA National show near Billings this weekend?

I'm leaving at 3am Friday morning to make the 915 mile trip as a straight shot.  Would have preferred making it a two day trip, but the guy going with me couldn't get today off from work.

I'll have my W.A.I.T. booth, plus (boo, hiss) will have my Empire tractor their too.
Not taking a flywheel engine along on this trip.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard Strobel
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 7:53 AM
To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] New belting

Thanks for the replies guys...very cool !!

Rob, thanks but I need 6"




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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Fri Aug 17 05:27:53 2012
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 06:27:53 -0600
Subject: [SEL] National show - was   New belting
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No..can't make it George.  Friend Corky Harris and Gary Yaeger will be 
there.

Drats,
Rick


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Best, George" <George.Best at adp.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:09 AM
Subject: [SEL] National show - was New belting


> Rick,
>
> Are you going to be at the EDGETA National show near Billings this 
> weekend?
>
> I'm leaving at 3am Friday morning to make the 915 mile trip as a straight 
> shot.  Would have preferred making it a two day trip, but the guy going 
> with me couldn't get today off from work.
>
> I'll have my W.A.I.T. booth, plus (boo, hiss) will have my Empire tractor 
> their too.
> Not taking a flywheel engine along on this trip.
>
> George
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com 
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard 
> Strobel
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 7:53 AM
> To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] New belting
>
> Thanks for the replies guys...very cool !!
>
> Rob, thanks but I need 6"
>
>
>
>
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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Fri Aug 17 07:15:39 2012
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:15:39 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Friction clutch pulley on Dave's Galloway 16
Message-ID: <SNT143-ds15F949F6C4AF15DF169462BBB40@phx.gbl>


  Thought I'd put this on the list Dave just in case someone else can help.

  Have you plans for a recast cover and hand wheel for the 16's friction 
clutch pulley?

http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/trailer/16_GallowayTrailer/MVC-455X.JPG

  We need both for our 9hp Gal.

  RickinMt.

 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Aug 18 16:13:03 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 19:13:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Friction clutch pulley on Dave's Galloway 16
Message-ID: <f5f1dad877870b6d1701e90b30d49d4b.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

Dave sez he doesn't have either the cover or the hand wheel, but would like
to buy one of each if someone does do castings.

See ya,  Arnie

On Fri, August 17, 2012 10:15 am, Richard Strobel wrote:
>
>   Thought I'd put this on the list Dave just in case someone else can
> help.
>
>   Have you plans for a recast cover and hand wheel for the 16's friction
> clutch pulley?
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/trailer/16_GallowayTrailer/MVC-455X.JPG
>
>   We need both for our 9hp Gal.
>
>   RickinMt.
>
>
>
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From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Sun Aug 19 07:21:56 2012
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 08:21:56 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Friction clutch pulley on Dave's Galloway 16
In-Reply-To: <f5f1dad877870b6d1701e90b30d49d4b.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <f5f1dad877870b6d1701e90b30d49d4b.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <SNT143-ds10E993F4DFA2D0A5BDCC9BBBBA0@phx.gbl>

Arnie, have him measure the largest and smallest diameter where the cover 
would bolt on.  The smallest would be where the cover slides over the 
collar.  We have one cover and handwheel on our 6hp but looks like it'll fit 
on the 9hp which is missing both.

  I'll try to get some pictures up.


Rick






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Friction clutch pulley on Dave's Galloway 16


> Dave sez he doesn't have either the cover or the hand wheel, but would 
> like
> to buy one of each if someone does do castings.
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> On Fri, August 17, 2012 10:15 am, Richard Strobel wrote:
> >
> >   Thought I'd put this on the list Dave just in case someone else can
> > help.
> >
> >   Have you plans for a recast cover and hand wheel for the 16's friction
> > clutch pulley?
> >
> > http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/trailer/16_GallowayTrailer/MVC-455X.JPG
> >
> >   We need both for our 9hp Gal.
> >
> >   RickinMt.
> >
> >
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From eric at facspro.com  Tue Aug 21 22:35:54 2012
From: eric at facspro.com (Eric Walter)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:35:54 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Saving Ag History
Message-ID: <B9E2EE9F798C48EC920F3DA3208595F5@Office>

An opportunity to help Save Ag History from the Scrap Yard.
http://youtu.be/N6TD0T3LqcU

If you can, please pass the link on to others that may be interested in saving Tired Iron.

Thanks,
Eric Walter
Brady NE

From floydandbobee at copper.net  Sun Aug 26 09:54:06 2012
From: floydandbobee at copper.net (Floyd and Bobee Boyett)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:54:06 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
Message-ID: <51B4CE8F8852410989E0E9D4424300F2@BoyettOffice>

I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.  I thought I would get a conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.  I have had a 5 HP, throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for sell or found it in an engine book.  (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)  I am sure it is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in books or mags.  Do you have one or have you seen one?  Looking forward to some input.

Floyd Boyett
Lumberton, Texas  

From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 26 11:32:48 2012
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:32:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
In-Reply-To: <51B4CE8F8852410989E0E9D4424300F2@BoyettOffice>
Message-ID: <1346005968.37703.YahooMailClassic@web111710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Do you have a picture or two on-line anywhere?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sun, 8/26/12, Floyd and Bobee Boyett <floydandbobee at copper.net> wrote:


From: Floyd and Bobee Boyett <floydandbobee at copper.net>
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Date: Sunday, August 26, 2012, 12:54 PM


I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.? I thought I would get a conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.? I have had a 5 HP, throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for sell or found it in an engine book.? (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)? I am sure it is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in books or mags.? Do you have one or have you seen one?? Looking forward to some input.

Floyd Boyett
Lumberton, Texas? 
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From christison at coastalnet.com  Sun Aug 26 13:26:18 2012
From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 16:26:18 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
In-Reply-To: <51B4CE8F8852410989E0E9D4424300F2@BoyettOffice>
References: <51B4CE8F8852410989E0E9D4424300F2@BoyettOffice>
Message-ID: <503A866A.9060005@coastalnet.com>

Welcome to the list, Floyd.

Is the hopper tapered a bit vertically, or is squarish with rounded corners?
Jacob Haisch built the early Rock Island and the later ones were built by
Alamo.  I have a 7HP Alamo.

Take care.

Ken

On 8/26/2012 12:54 PM, Floyd and Bobee Boyett wrote:
> I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.  I thought I would get a conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.  I have had a 5 HP, throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for sell or found it in an engine book.  (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)  I am sure it is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in books or mags.  Do you have one or have you seen one?  Looking forward to some input.
>
> Floyd Boyett
> Lumberton, Texas
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From christison at coastalnet.com  Sun Aug 26 13:37:55 2012
From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 16:37:55 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
In-Reply-To: <51B4CE8F8852410989E0E9D4424300F2@BoyettOffice>
References: <51B4CE8F8852410989E0E9D4424300F2@BoyettOffice>
Message-ID: <503A8923.9070202@coastalnet.com>


Floyd,

Does this page help any:

http://www.rockislandplowco.com/index_files/alamo.htm

Ken

On 8/26/2012 12:54 PM, Floyd and Bobee Boyett wrote:
> I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.  I thought I would get a conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.  I have had a 5 HP, throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for sell or found it in an engine book.  (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)  I am sure it is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in books or mags.  Do you have one or have you seen one?  Looking forward to some input.
>
> Floyd Boyett
> Lumberton, Texas
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From christison at coastalnet.com  Sun Aug 26 13:47:59 2012
From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 16:47:59 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
In-Reply-To: <503A8923.9070202@coastalnet.com>
References: <51B4CE8F8852410989E0E9D4424300F2@BoyettOffice>
	<503A8923.9070202@coastalnet.com>
Message-ID: <503A8B7F.9070708@coastalnet.com>

Floyd,

Be sure to check out the link to Denis Rouleau's page.  He has a
registry of Alamo built engines.  My 7HP is the latest one he has
recorded so far.  I don't know if he is keeping the registry up since
I haven't heard much from him is a couple years.

Ken

On 8/26/2012 4:37 PM, Ken Christison wrote:
> Floyd,
>
> Does this page help any:
>
> http://www.rockislandplowco.com/index_files/alamo.htm
>
> Ken
>
> On 8/26/2012 12:54 PM, Floyd and Bobee Boyett wrote:
>> I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.  I thought I would get a conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.  I have had a 5 HP, throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for sell or found it in an engine book.  (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)  I am sure it is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in books or mags.  Do you have one or have you seen one?  Looking forward to some input.
>>
>> Floyd Boyett
>> Lumberton, Texas
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From asouth42 at embarqmail.com  Sun Aug 26 15:55:15 2012
From: asouth42 at embarqmail.com (Arthur Southwell)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:55:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Hurricane Isaac
Message-ID: <DCBA6F2B16764E08AF2B5F234D5CE8B7@ArthurHP2>

I hope all of our list friends stay safe and damage free as Isaac comes bearing down on the upper gulf coast.

C?ya,

Arthur Southwell
Arcadia, FL 34266 USA

asouth42 at embarqmail.com


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From jbcast at charter.net  Sun Aug 26 20:06:58 2012
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:06:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Hurricane Isaac
Message-ID: <469a91e8.31cef0.139660be34b.Webtop.49@charter.net>

Thanks Arthur, looks like it's headd our way, not too bad yet, hope it 
doesn't gain much strength.
J.B. Catagnos
Belle Rose, LA


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> I hope all of our list friends stay safe and damage free as Isaac 
> comes bearing down on the upper gulf coast.
>
> C?ya,
>
> Arthur Southwell
> Arcadia, FL 34266 USA
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From mcanady at lilleyinternational.com  Mon Aug 27 06:15:33 2012
From: mcanady at lilleyinternational.com (Merton Canady)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:15:33 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Salt Lake City
Message-ID: <013d01cd8456$0a14c680$1e3e5380$@lilleyinternational.com>

I will be traveling to Salt Lake City the second weekend in September and
wanted to know if any old iron collectors in the area. 

 

Merton D. Canady

Truck Salesman

 

Lilley International, Inc.

103 East Blvd

Williamston, NC  27892

 

252-799-6688  cell

252-792-4192  store

252-792-3442  fax

 



From Germoamer at aol.com  Mon Aug 27 09:12:17 2012
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:12:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
Message-ID: <24d6e.67ffac85.3d6cf661@aol.com>



 
In a message dated 8/27/2012 11:44:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
christison at coastalnet.com writes:

Does this page help any:

_http://www.rockislandplowco.com/index_files/alamo.htm_ 
(http://www.rockislandplowco.com/index_files/alamo.htm) 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------
Ken
 
Looks like there ought to be a picture of one  with some  sorghum growing 
in the background some where!


Tom  Schmutz
Concord, Va.  
germoamer at aol.com




From rdhaskell at juno.com  Mon Aug 27 13:11:00 2012
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 13:11:00 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Small show in Chino CA.
Message-ID: <20120827.131142.1558.81768@mailpop10.vgs.untd.com>

Hi all.
While most of the list was at Portland, my local club put on a display at
the Chino Corn Feed Run.  A car show to raise money for the local service
organizations.
Perfect weather and crowd made for a fun day.  Pictures at:
https://plus.google.com/photos/104862591013550196821/albums/5781439665933
960641?authkey=CKTio6Xl1ZbaQQ

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell

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From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Mon Aug 27 14:13:17 2012
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 22:13:17 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Small show in Chino CA.
In-Reply-To: <20120827.131142.1558.81768@mailpop10.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20120827.131142.1558.81768@mailpop10.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <6163A965CE54441B9099BCCD94E59B26@BTDAVEPC>

Hi Ron, Lovely Quality Engines. Picture No 9 seems to be a Sterling Cycle
Engine very Similar to my English KY-KO Fan.
See http://www.stirlingengines.org.uk/manufact/manf/gb/mod.html.
I own both models of the KY-KO shown. The one in your picture looks similar 
to an
American Lake Breeze. I have more pictures on my websites below.
Dave Croft
http://oldengine.org/members/croft/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv

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Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 9:11 PM
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Subject: Small show in Chino CA.

> Hi all.
> While most of the list was at Portland, my local club put on a display at
> the Chino Corn Feed Run.  A car show to raise money for the local service
> organizations.
> Perfect weather and crowd made for a fun day.  Pictures at:
> https://plus.google.com/photos/104862591013550196821/albums/5781439665933960641?authkey=CKTio6Xl1ZbaQQ
>
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> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California USA
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From jnyost at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 27 16:54:09 2012
From: jnyost at yahoo.com (James Yost)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:54:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] question on Myrick Eclips
Message-ID: <1346111649.69932.YahooMailNeo@web112616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hey SEL,
????? 
Had a great time at Portland. Good to see you all. Really enjoyed the marine engine paint shaker. (ha ha)
I bought a Eclips and it is missing the oring/belt that drives the fan. I know i could use a oring but whart was the original material they used? Also do you know where i can buy some?
?
Thanks in advance, Jim

Jim and Janna Yost
Utica, Ohio
USA
jnyost at yahoo.com

From rotigel at me.com  Mon Aug 27 17:13:51 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:13:51 -0400
Subject: [SEL] question on Myrick Eclips
In-Reply-To: <1346111649.69932.YahooMailNeo@web112616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1346111649.69932.YahooMailNeo@web112616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6BB9ED8F-85A2-44D7-97B3-25C827D29B08@me.com>


On Aug 27, 2012, at 7:54 PM, James Yost wrote:

> Hey SEL,
>       
> Had a great time at Portland. Good to see you all. Really enjoyed the marine engine paint shaker. (ha ha)
> I bought a Eclips and it is missing the oring/belt that drives the fan. I know i could use a oring but whart was the original material they used?
I believe it was leather Jim
> Also do you know where i can buy some?
Hit and Miss should be able to help you.
>  
> Thanks in advance, Jim
> 
> Jim and Janna Yost
	Dave


From floydandbobee at copper.net  Mon Aug 27 18:17:25 2012
From: floydandbobee at copper.net (Floyd and Bobee Boyett)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:17:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
In-Reply-To: <1346005968.37703.YahooMailClassic@web111710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1346005968.37703.YahooMailClassic@web111710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5CB14378139644A0BE9D6FF1E505BEE9@BoyettOffice>

I'll answer Ken's question first.  The water hopper has straight sides, not 
angled with the typical flared lip.  And to answer Alan's question I do not 
have pictures on the net at this time.  I have just gotten a new computer 
going and do not have a photo program installed yet.  I will get a picture 
to you all later.  I will tell you that it looks like the average typical 
Rock Island engine although it is red.  I will have to check closely to 
determine if it has every been repainted.

Ken, none of the list I have looked at have a 5 HP RIP engine with this RPM. 
Perhaps that is due to mine being throttle governed where as most RIP 
engines seem to be Hit and Miss.

Thanks for the input.

Floyd

-----Original Message----- 
From: Alan
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 1:32 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.

Do you have a picture or two on-line anywhere?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sun, 8/26/12, Floyd and Bobee Boyett <floydandbobee at copper.net> 
wrote:


From: Floyd and Bobee Boyett <floydandbobee at copper.net>
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Date: Sunday, August 26, 2012, 12:54 PM


I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.  I thought I would get a 
conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.  I have had a 5 HP, 
throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for 
sell or found it in an engine book.  (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)  I am sure it 
is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in 
books or mags.  Do you have one or have you seen one?  Looking forward to 
some input.

Floyd Boyett
Lumberton, Texas
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From floydandbobee at copper.net  Mon Aug 27 18:21:16 2012
From: floydandbobee at copper.net (Floyd and Bobee Boyett)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:21:16 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
In-Reply-To: <503A8923.9070202@coastalnet.com>
References: <51B4CE8F8852410989E0E9D4424300F2@BoyettOffice>
	<503A8923.9070202@coastalnet.com>
Message-ID: <BD5E6E767DD2476BB070819D0FAB4659@BoyettOffice>

Ken,

The corners of the hopper are rounded.

Floyd

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ken Christison
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:37 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.


Floyd,

Does this page help any:

http://www.rockislandplowco.com/index_files/alamo.htm

Ken

On 8/26/2012 12:54 PM, Floyd and Bobee Boyett wrote:
> I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.  I thought I would get a 
> conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.  I have had a 5 
> HP, throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come 
> up for sell or found it in an engine book.  (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)  I 
> am sure it is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or 
> pictures in books or mags.  Do you have one or have you seen one?  Looking 
> forward to some input.
>
> Floyd Boyett
> Lumberton, Texas
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From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Mon Aug 27 18:31:48 2012
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:31:48 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [SEL] question on Myrick Eclips
Message-ID: <14485165.1346117508478.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I bought my leather belts for engines from McMaster Carr.  They carry many sizes and ship it with in a couple of days.

Tim Christoff

-----Original Message-----
>From: Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
>Sent: Aug 27, 2012 7:13 PM
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] question on Myrick Eclips
>
>
>On Aug 27, 2012, at 7:54 PM, James Yost wrote:
>
>> Hey SEL,
>>       
>> Had a great time at Portland. Good to see you all. Really enjoyed the marine engine paint shaker. (ha ha)
>> I bought a Eclips and it is missing the oring/belt that drives the fan. I know i could use a oring but whart was the original material they used?
>I believe it was leather Jim
>> Also do you know where i can buy some?
>Hit and Miss should be able to help you.
>>  
>> Thanks in advance, Jim
>> 
>> Jim and Janna Yost
>	Dave
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Tim Christoff


From jbcast at charter.net  Mon Aug 27 19:14:43 2012
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 22:14:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] question on Myrick Eclips
Message-ID: <2ca5c9fa.32bd25.1396b026710.Webtop.45@charter.net>

It was fun, I enjoyed meeting with friends, running engines, and helping 
others get theirs running. The oscillating cylinder "paint shaker" drew 
a lot of interest, glad I got to display it, it's for a friend. I took 
it home last year to get it running, he told me to keep it and display 
it for a while. Waiting for the storm now, so far it doesn't look bad, 
tornado would be the worst thing.
J.B. Castagnos


On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 6:54 PM, James Yost wrote:

> Hey SEL,
> ????? Had a great time at Portland. Good to see you all. Really 
> enjoyed the marine engine paint shaker. (ha ha)
> I bought a Eclips and it is missing the oring/belt that drives the 
> fan. I know i could use a oring but whart was the original material 
> they used? Also do you know where i can buy some?
> ?
> Thanks in advance, Jim
>
> Jim and Janna Yost
> Utica, Ohio
> USA
> jnyost at yahoo.com
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From christison at coastalnet.com  Mon Aug 27 21:02:04 2012
From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 00:02:04 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
In-Reply-To: <24d6e.67ffac85.3d6cf661@aol.com>
References: <24d6e.67ffac85.3d6cf661@aol.com>
Message-ID: <503C42BC.8000604@coastalnet.com>

Hey Tom,

Here is the pic you are talking about:
http://buzzcoil.brinkster.net/alamo/115468b.jpg

It is the last entry on Denis's page.

Ken

On 8/27/2012 12:12 PM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote:
>
>   
> In a message dated 8/27/2012 11:44:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> christison at coastalnet.com writes:
>
> Does this page help any:
>
> _http://www.rockislandplowco.com/index_files/alamo.htm_
> (http://www.rockislandplowco.com/index_files/alamo.htm)
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Ken
>   
> Looks like there ought to be a picture of one  with some  sorghum growing
> in the background some where!
>
>
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord, Va.
> germoamer at aol.com
>
>
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From mcanady at lilleyinternational.com  Tue Aug 28 08:05:21 2012
From: mcanady at lilleyinternational.com (Merton Canady)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:05:21 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 101, Issue 17
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1346083201.32114.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
References: <mailman.3.1346083201.32114.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <001e01cd852e$8b5ab5a0$a21020e0$@lilleyinternational.com>

David
What address do you want us to mail docs. to?
Thanks

Merton D. Canady
Truck Salesman

Lilley International, Inc.
103 East Blvd
Williamston, NC  27892

252-799-6688  cell
252-792-4192  store
252-792-3442  fax



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Today's Topics:

   1. Rock Island Plow Co. (Floyd and Bobee Boyett)
   2. Re: Rock Island Plow Co. (Alan)
   3. Re: Rock Island Plow Co. (Ken Christison)
   4. Re: Rock Island Plow Co. (Ken Christison)
   5. Re: Rock Island Plow Co. (Ken Christison)
   6. O.T. Hurricane Isaac (Arthur Southwell)
   7. Re: O.T. Hurricane Isaac (jbcast at charter.net)
   8. Salt Lake City (Merton Canady)


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message: 1
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:54:06 -0500
From: "Floyd and Bobee Boyett" <floydandbobee at copper.net>
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
To: <SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <51B4CE8F8852410989E0E9D4424300F2 at BoyettOffice>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.  I thought I would get a
conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.  I have had a 5 HP,
throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for
sell or found it in an engine book.  (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)  I am sure it
is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in
books or mags.  Do you have one or have you seen one?  Looking forward to
some input.

Floyd Boyett
Lumberton, Texas  

------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:32:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID:
	<1346005968.37703.YahooMailClassic at web111710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Do you have a picture or two on-line anywhere?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sun, 8/26/12, Floyd and Bobee Boyett <floydandbobee at copper.net>
wrote:


From: Floyd and Bobee Boyett <floydandbobee at copper.net>
Subject: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Date: Sunday, August 26, 2012, 12:54 PM


I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.? I thought I would get a
conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.? I have had a 5 HP,
throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for
sell or found it in an engine book.? (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)? I am sure it
is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in
books or mags.? Do you have one or have you seen one?? Looking forward to
some input.

Floyd Boyett
Lumberton, Texas? 
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------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 16:26:18 -0400
From: Ken Christison <christison at coastalnet.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <503A866A.9060005 at coastalnet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Welcome to the list, Floyd.

Is the hopper tapered a bit vertically, or is squarish with rounded corners?
Jacob Haisch built the early Rock Island and the later ones were built by
Alamo.  I have a 7HP Alamo.

Take care.

Ken

On 8/26/2012 12:54 PM, Floyd and Bobee Boyett wrote:
> I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.  I thought I would get a
conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.  I have had a 5 HP,
throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for
sell or found it in an engine book.  (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)  I am sure it
is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in
books or mags.  Do you have one or have you seen one?  Looking forward to
some input.
>
> Floyd Boyett
> Lumberton, Texas
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 16:37:55 -0400
From: Ken Christison <christison at coastalnet.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <503A8923.9070202 at coastalnet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed


Floyd,

Does this page help any:

http://www.rockislandplowco.com/index_files/alamo.htm

Ken

On 8/26/2012 12:54 PM, Floyd and Bobee Boyett wrote:
> I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.  I thought I would get a
conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.  I have had a 5 HP,
throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for
sell or found it in an engine book.  (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)  I am sure it
is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in
books or mags.  Do you have one or have you seen one?  Looking forward to
some input.
>
> Floyd Boyett
> Lumberton, Texas
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 16:47:59 -0400
From: Ken Christison <christison at coastalnet.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Rock Island Plow Co.
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <503A8B7F.9070708 at coastalnet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Floyd,

Be sure to check out the link to Denis Rouleau's page.  He has a
registry of Alamo built engines.  My 7HP is the latest one he has
recorded so far.  I don't know if he is keeping the registry up since
I haven't heard much from him is a couple years.

Ken

On 8/26/2012 4:37 PM, Ken Christison wrote:
> Floyd,
>
> Does this page help any:
>
> http://www.rockislandplowco.com/index_files/alamo.htm
>
> Ken
>
> On 8/26/2012 12:54 PM, Floyd and Bobee Boyett wrote:
>> I am Floyd Boyett and new to this list.  I thought I would get a
conversation started so I can meet some of you on line.  I have had a 5 HP,
throttle governed engine for many years and have never seen one come up for
sell or found it in an engine book.  (Tag No. A61856, 420 RPM)  I am sure it
is not rare, it?s just that I have not seen others at shows or pictures in
books or mags.  Do you have one or have you seen one?  Looking forward to
some input.
>>
>> Floyd Boyett
>> Lumberton, Texas
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:55:15 -0400
From: "Arthur Southwell" <asouth42 at embarqmail.com>
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Hurricane Isaac
To: "ATIS-SEL" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>,	"oldengine.org"
	<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>,	"Slick Willy"
<slick at toltbbs.com>
Message-ID: <DCBA6F2B16764E08AF2B5F234D5CE8B7 at ArthurHP2>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I hope all of our list friends stay safe and damage free as Isaac comes
bearing down on the upper gulf coast.

C?ya,

Arthur Southwell
Arcadia, FL 34266 USA

asouth42 at embarqmail.com


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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:06:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: jbcast at charter.net
Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Hurricane Isaac
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
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Thanks Arthur, looks like it's headd our way, not too bad yet, hope it 
doesn't gain much strength.
J.B. Catagnos
Belle Rose, LA


On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Arthur Southwell wrote:

> I hope all of our list friends stay safe and damage free as Isaac 
> comes bearing down on the upper gulf coast.
>
> C?ya,
>
> Arthur Southwell
> Arcadia, FL 34266 USA
>
> asouth42 at embarqmail.com
>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:15:33 -0400
From: "Merton Canady" <mcanady at lilleyinternational.com>
Subject: [SEL] Salt Lake City
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <013d01cd8456$0a14c680$1e3e5380$@lilleyinternational.com>
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I will be traveling to Salt Lake City the second weekend in September and
wanted to know if any old iron collectors in the area. 

 

Merton D. Canady

Truck Salesman

 

Lilley International, Inc.

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From toadhill at aeroinc.net  Tue Aug 28 09:26:00 2012
From: toadhill at aeroinc.net (Joe Maurer)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:26:00 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Paint Shaker Engine
Message-ID: <FCAA6FD9A2AA4EBAAFE45D25C0130E90@toadhill>

JB,

Thanks for starting the paint shaker and my new Buffalo engine.  Saw your picture running engines in Maine.  A long way from home.  Also saw the movie of your 30 mile boat trip.  Didn't know you were that famous.

Best Regards,
Joe

From curt at rustyiron.com  Tue Aug 28 19:59:09 2012
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:59:09 -0400
Subject: [SEL] question on Myrick Eclips
In-Reply-To: <1346111649.69932.YahooMailNeo@web112616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1346111649.69932.YahooMailNeo@web112616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <72fc857de7491dcb0627bbbcc0c53e71.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>


Jim,
Most used round leather belting. Just bought some for Missy's New Way from
McMaster Carr. Hers required 5/16" as I recall. 1/4, 5/16, 3/8" and other
sizes are available from McM, as are the "hog ring" staples for joining.
Curt Holland
Bessemer City, NC

> Hey SEL,
> ?????
> Had a great time at Portland. Good to see you all. Really enjoyed the
> marine engine paint shaker. (ha ha)
> I bought a Eclips and it is missing the oring/belt that drives the fan. I
> know i could use a oring but whart was the original material they used?
> Also do you know where i can buy some?
> ?
> Thanks in advance, Jim
>
> Jim and Janna Yost
> Utica, Ohio
> USA
> jnyost at yahoo.com
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From jnyost at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 29 02:44:21 2012
From: jnyost at yahoo.com (Jim Yost)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 05:44:21 -0400
Subject: [SEL] question on Myrick Eclips
In-Reply-To: <72fc857de7491dcb0627bbbcc0c53e71.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
References: <1346111649.69932.YahooMailNeo@web112616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<72fc857de7491dcb0627bbbcc0c53e71.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
Message-ID: <C0D91A6A-2F7C-4DED-A20F-6DDB646706D3@yahoo.com>

Thanks I thought about looking in McMaster Carr and just haven't had a chance thanks for the info

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 28, 2012, at 10:59 PM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote:

> 
> Jim,
> Most used round leather belting. Just bought some for Missy's New Way from
> McMaster Carr. Hers required 5/16" as I recall. 1/4, 5/16, 3/8" and other
> sizes are available from McM, as are the "hog ring" staples for joining.
> Curt Holland
> Bessemer City, NC
> 
>> Hey SEL,
>>      
>> Had a great time at Portland. Good to see you all. Really enjoyed the
>> marine engine paint shaker. (ha ha)
>> I bought a Eclips and it is missing the oring/belt that drives the fan. I
>> know i could use a oring but whart was the original material they used?
>> Also do you know where i can buy some?
>>  
>> Thanks in advance, Jim
>> 
>> Jim and Janna Yost
>> Utica, Ohio
>> USA
>> jnyost at yahoo.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
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> 
> 
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Thu Aug 30 18:55:32 2012
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:55:32 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
Message-ID: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle. Last
weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give the
2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to retard
the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is at
the age where he repeats everything).
My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all loaded
ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
weeks time.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From curt at rustyiron.com  Thu Aug 30 19:18:29 2012
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:18:29 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f13c50c8596d7c54e2fa62e5c8cc26b1.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>


Photos Patrick?

If John Hammink could post photos of himself de-clothed and pummeled by
his IHC-M, you can post a photo of what a crank handle can do to your hand
and wrist.

Seeing your hand would be a good reminder to all of us the damage these
engines, even small ones, can inflict on us.

'Least you didn't take one in the chin like Kerry did a while back.

Curt



> For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle.
> Last
> weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give
> the
> 2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to
> retard
> the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
> and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
> did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is
> at
> the age where he repeats everything).
> My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
> Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all
> loaded
> ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
> I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
> weeks time.
> Patrick
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> 0418 692013
> Earlwood NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Aug 30 19:28:58 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:28:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7f1353031424db9d11caa802215b7772.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com>

G'day Patrick,

I'm glad to hear that you're not seriously injured.

It is worth while to post these "cautionary tales" lest we grow complacent
and forget that this olde iron can indeed bite us.

Years ago I had my 5 hp Petter "M" at a local show.  It was late in the
day and I had grown complacent.  For those of you who are not familiar
with the engine, it has a hand crank that looks like a disemboweling hook.
 And when the engine fires, the hook flies off the crankshaft quite
smartly.  The normal starting position is to have the engine backed up
onto compression, fit the crank, and WLF.  (Clarification of "WLF"
provided off-list.)  The body position is parallel to the engine so that
when the crank flies off the crankshaft, no body parts are in the flight
path.

When complacent, however, the body position ends up facing the engine with
the face looking down at the crank.  This results in the forehead getting
a really good SMACK when the crank flies off.  Fortunately there were no
little ones about, so I was free to vent my frustration!

See ya,  Arnie

On Thu, August 30, 2012 9:55 pm, Patrick Livingstone wrote:
> For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle.
> Last
> weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give
> the
> 2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to
> retard
> the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
> and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
> did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is
> at
> the age where he repeats everything).
> My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
> Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all
> loaded
> ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
> I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
> weeks time.
> Patrick




From al.harris at rustic-engines.com  Thu Aug 30 19:38:53 2012
From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:38:53 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <f13c50c8596d7c54e2fa62e5c8cc26b1.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
References: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
	<f13c50c8596d7c54e2fa62e5c8cc26b1.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
Message-ID: <504023BD.1080207@rustic-engines.com>

Hmmm.

I broke the lens in my glasses and imbedded about twenty pieces into the 
area around my eye. Missed the eye completely. It took four operations 
to get all but one piece out. It's staying there as it would be possible 
to damage a muscle that controls the eye if an attempt was made to 
remove it.

Thumbs and wrists - kids play. :-( Done that twice also.

Al Harris
Northern Rivers NSW OZ.


On 31/08/2012 12:18 PM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote:
> Photos Patrick?
>
> If John Hammink could post photos of himself de-clothed and pummeled by
> his IHC-M, you can post a photo of what a crank handle can do to your hand
> and wrist.
>
> Seeing your hand would be a good reminder to all of us the damage these
> engines, even small ones, can inflict on us.
>
> 'Least you didn't take one in the chin like Kerry did a while back.
>
> Curt
>
>
>
>> For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle.
>> Last
>> weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give
>> the
>> 2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to
>> retard
>> the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
>> and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
>> did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is
>> at
>> the age where he repeats everything).
>> My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
>> Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all
>> loaded
>> ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
>> I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
>> weeks time.
>> Patrick
>>
>> Patrick M Livingstone
>> 0418 692013
>> Earlwood NSW
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>>
>>
>>



From jnyost at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 31 03:52:10 2012
From: jnyost at yahoo.com (Jim Yost)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 06:52:10 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <7f1353031424db9d11caa802215b7772.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com>
References: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
	<7f1353031424db9d11caa802215b7772.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <5099CC2C-1DBC-4DB0-B8C7-569E475F304C@yahoo.com>

Arnie I'm stupid. Send me off list what WLF means. Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 30, 2012, at 10:28 PM, "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:

> G'day Patrick,
> 
> I'm glad to hear that you're not seriously injured.
> 
> It is worth while to post these "cautionary tales" lest we grow complacent
> and forget that this olde iron can indeed bite us.
> 
> Years ago I had my 5 hp Petter "M" at a local show.  It was late in the
> day and I had grown complacent.  For those of you who are not familiar
> with the engine, it has a hand crank that looks like a disemboweling hook.
> And when the engine fires, the hook flies off the crankshaft quite
> smartly.  The normal starting position is to have the engine backed up
> onto compression, fit the crank, and WLF.  (Clarification of "WLF"
> provided off-list.)  The body position is parallel to the engine so that
> when the crank flies off the crankshaft, no body parts are in the flight
> path.
> 
> When complacent, however, the body position ends up facing the engine with
> the face looking down at the crank.  This results in the forehead getting
> a really good SMACK when the crank flies off.  Fortunately there were no
> little ones about, so I was free to vent my frustration!
> 
> See ya,  Arnie
> 
> On Thu, August 30, 2012 9:55 pm, Patrick Livingstone wrote:
>> For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle.
>> Last
>> weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give
>> the
>> 2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to
>> retard
>> the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
>> and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
>> did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is
>> at
>> the age where he repeats everything).
>> My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
>> Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all
>> loaded
>> ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
>> I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
>> weeks time.
>> Patrick
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From rotigel at me.com  Fri Aug 31 04:37:30 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:37:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <5099CC2C-1DBC-4DB0-B8C7-569E475F304C@yahoo.com>
References: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
	<7f1353031424db9d11caa802215b7772.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com>
	<5099CC2C-1DBC-4DB0-B8C7-569E475F304C@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DE4BAE94-4373-417C-9FE5-2DB9E5C3F63C@me.com>

Hi Jim, It's the opposite of FLW.
	Dave

On Aug 31, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Jim Yost wrote:

> Arnie I'm stupid. Send me off list what WLF means. Thanks
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 30, 2012, at 10:28 PM, "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
> 
>> G'day Patrick,
>> 
>> I'm glad to hear that you're not seriously injured.
>> 
>> It is worth while to post these "cautionary tales" lest we grow complacent
>> and forget that this olde iron can indeed bite us.
>> 
>> Years ago I had my 5 hp Petter "M" at a local show.  It was late in the
>> day and I had grown complacent.  For those of you who are not familiar
>> with the engine, it has a hand crank that looks like a disemboweling hook.
>> And when the engine fires, the hook flies off the crankshaft quite
>> smartly.  The normal starting position is to have the engine backed up
>> onto compression, fit the crank, and WLF.  (Clarification of "WLF"
>> provided off-list.)  The body position is parallel to the engine so that
>> when the crank flies off the crankshaft, no body parts are in the flight
>> path.
>> 
>> When complacent, however, the body position ends up facing the engine with
>> the face looking down at the crank.  This results in the forehead getting
>> a really good SMACK when the crank flies off.  Fortunately there were no
>> little ones about, so I was free to vent my frustration!
>> 
>> See ya,  Arnie
>> 
>> On Thu, August 30, 2012 9:55 pm, Patrick Livingstone wrote:
>>> For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle.
>>> Last
>>> weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give
>>> the
>>> 2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to
>>> retard
>>> the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
>>> and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
>>> did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is
>>> at
>>> the age where he repeats everything).
>>> My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
>>> Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all
>>> loaded
>>> ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
>>> I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
>>> weeks time.
>>> Patrick
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Fri Aug 31 05:06:11 2012
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 22:06:11 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <f13c50c8596d7c54e2fa62e5c8cc26b1.squirrel@elara.lunarservers.com>
Message-ID: <CC66E5D3.EFF1%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

The photos would not be very interesting. It was pretty swollen after I did
it but now it is just annoyingly sore :(
Patrick


On 31/8/12 12:18 PM, "curt at rustyiron.com" <curt at rustyiron.com> wrote:

> 
> Photos Patrick?
> 
> If John Hammink could post photos of himself de-clothed and pummeled by
> his IHC-M, you can post a photo of what a crank handle can do to your hand
> and wrist.
> 
> Seeing your hand would be a good reminder to all of us the damage these
> engines, even small ones, can inflict on us.
> 
> 'Least you didn't take one in the chin like Kerry did a while back.
> 
> Curt
> 
> 
> 
>> For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle.
>> Last
>> weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give
>> the
>> 2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to
>> retard
>> the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
>> and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
>> did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is
>> at
>> the age where he repeats everything).
>> My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
>> Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all
>> loaded
>> ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
>> I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
>> weeks time.
>> Patrick
>> 
>> Patrick M Livingstone
>> 0418 692013
>> Earlwood NSW
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>> 
> 
> 
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From walking_tractor at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 31 05:26:31 2012
From: walking_tractor at yahoo.com (David Myers)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 05:26:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1346415991.56573.YahooMailNeo@web121501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

If it applies to your engine situation, my method of attack on my Hercules is this.? 
Hold the intake valve open with my left hand, crank with my right.?? While engine spins REMOVE CRANK, then let intake valve close, momentum starts engine.? Has saved ouchies more than once.
David


________________________________
From: Patrick Livingstone <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: ATIS <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; Oldengine <stationary-engine at oldengine.org> 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:55 PM
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack

For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle. Last
weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give the
2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to retard
the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is at
the age where he repeats everything).
My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all loaded
ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
weeks time.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html



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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Aug 31 06:30:31 2012
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:30:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <1346415991.56573.YahooMailNeo@web121501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <CC6656B4.EFD9%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
	<1346415991.56573.YahooMailNeo@web121501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ab82018b66a6589b5bc71ccfacc36db2.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

I use the same process on my Novo and my Bamford.  It works REALLY well.

On Fri, August 31, 2012 8:26 am, David Myers wrote:
> If it applies to your engine situation, my method of attack on my Hercules
> is this.?
> Hold the intake valve open with my left hand, crank with my right.?? While
> engine spins REMOVE CRANK, then let intake valve close, momentum starts
> engine.? Has saved ouchies more than once.
> David




From jlb94 at juno.com  Fri Aug 31 06:44:54 2012
From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:44:54 GMT
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
Message-ID: <20120831.094454.20119.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>

I didn't catch this thread from the beginning - But - Sounds like the proper way to use a handcrank to start an engine.
But - There are times when the engine won't start and you get more & more aggrivated and the timing betweem the left and right hand gets outta synk and the next thing you know, you got hit in the jaw and you're on the way to the hospital.

I was lucky, it only knocked my glasses off.


Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/       If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.
 (_0_)            "In memory of Bre-Dog"  
                                                          

                                



---------- Original Message ----------
From: David Myers <walking_tractor at yahoo.com>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>,        Oldengine <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Crank handle attack
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 05:26:31 -0700 (PDT)

If it applies to your engine situation, my method of attack on my Hercules is this.  
Hold the intake valve open with my left hand, crank with my right.   While engine spins REMOVE CRANK, then let intake valve close, momentum starts engine.  Has saved ouchies more than once.
David


________________________________
From: Patrick Livingstone <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: ATIS <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; Oldengine <stationary-engine at oldengine.org> 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:55 PM
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack

For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle. Last
weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give the
2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to retard
the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is at
the age where he repeats everything).
My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all loaded
ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
weeks time.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html



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From walking_tractor at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 31 07:21:08 2012
From: walking_tractor at yahoo.com (David Myers)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:21:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <20120831.094454.20119.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20120831.094454.20119.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <1346422868.31507.YahooMailNeo@web121501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I admit to having been rapped a few times myself.
My biggest worry has always been a stuck crank.? Saw it happen when I was a kid and the fellow actually was successful at knocking it off while running.
I've NEVER been that coordinated (and mostly have been a chicken) to have tried it.
Old proverb:? "Better to be live chicken than dead duck".
Have started this engine so long this way I don't rightly remember if I thunk of it myself or an old-timer taught me.
Have always listened to experience, sometimes I even paid attention.
David


________________________________
From: "jlb94 at juno.com" <jlb94 at juno.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Crank handle attack

I didn't catch this thread from the beginning - But - Sounds like the proper way to use a handcrank to start an engine.
But - There are times when the engine won't start and you get more & more aggrivated and the timing betweem the left and right hand gets outta synk and the next thing you know, you got hit in the jaw and you're on the way to the hospital.

I was lucky, it only knocked my glasses off.


Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
,-._,-.? ? ? http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
\/)"(\/? ? ? If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.
(_0_)? ? ? ? ? ? "In memory of Bre-Dog"? 
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 



---------- Original Message ----------
From: David Myers <walking_tractor at yahoo.com>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>,? ? ? ? Oldengine <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Crank handle attack
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 05:26:31 -0700 (PDT)

If it applies to your engine situation, my method of attack on my Hercules is this.? 
Hold the intake valve open with my left hand, crank with my right.? While engine spins REMOVE CRANK, then let intake valve close, momentum starts engine.? Has saved ouchies more than once.
David


________________________________
From: Patrick Livingstone <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: ATIS <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; Oldengine <stationary-engine at oldengine.org> 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:55 PM
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack

For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle. Last
weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give the
2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to retard
the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is at
the age where he repeats everything).
My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all loaded
ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
weeks time.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html



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From wilson at stny.rr.com  Fri Aug 31 08:03:05 2012
From: wilson at stny.rr.com (Glenn Wilson)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:03:05 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <1346422868.31507.YahooMailNeo@web121501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <20120831.094454.20119.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>
	<1346422868.31507.YahooMailNeo@web121501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6E91141B-0807-4082-BD8B-2FB12F39DA7C@stny.rr.com>

I had one crank handle stay on. It scared the begeebers out of me. I yelled for people to get out of the path then found a stick. By then it had come off the tang and was sliding off the shaft. Eventually it just fell on the ground. I gained even more respect than I had previously!  

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2012, at 10:21 AM, David Myers <walking_tractor at yahoo.com> wrote:

I admit to having been rapped a few times myself.
My biggest worry has always been a stuck crank.  Saw it happen when I was a kid and the fellow actually was successful at knocking it off while running.
I've NEVER been that coordinated (and mostly have been a chicken) to have tried it.
Old proverb:  "Better to be live chicken than dead duck".
Have started this engine so long this way I don't rightly remember if I thunk of it myself or an old-timer taught me.
Have always listened to experience, sometimes I even paid attention.
David


________________________________
From: "jlb94 at juno.com" <jlb94 at juno.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Crank handle attack

I didn't catch this thread from the beginning - But - Sounds like the proper way to use a handcrank to start an engine.
But - There are times when the engine won't start and you get more & more aggrivated and the timing betweem the left and right hand gets outta synk and the next thing you know, you got hit in the jaw and you're on the way to the hospital.

I was lucky, it only knocked my glasses off.


Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
\/)"(\/      If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.
(_0_)            "In memory of Bre-Dog"  
                                                          

                                



---------- Original Message ----------
From: David Myers <walking_tractor at yahoo.com>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>,        Oldengine <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Crank handle attack
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 05:26:31 -0700 (PDT)

If it applies to your engine situation, my method of attack on my Hercules is this.  
Hold the intake valve open with my left hand, crank with my right.  While engine spins REMOVE CRANK, then let intake valve close, momentum starts engine.  Has saved ouchies more than once.
David


________________________________
From: Patrick Livingstone <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: ATIS <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; Oldengine <stationary-engine at oldengine.org> 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:55 PM
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack

For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle. Last
weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give the
2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to retard
the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is at
the age where he repeats everything).
My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all loaded
ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
weeks time.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html



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From walking_tractor at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 31 09:31:38 2012
From: walking_tractor at yahoo.com (David Myers)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:31:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <6E91141B-0807-4082-BD8B-2FB12F39DA7C@stny.rr.com>
References: <20120831.094454.20119.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>
	<1346422868.31507.YahooMailNeo@web121501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<6E91141B-0807-4082-BD8B-2FB12F39DA7C@stny.rr.com>
Message-ID: <1346430698.74426.YahooMailNeo@web121502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Question for those that have full cranks, do you lube them (or shaft) or are they supposed to be a loose dry fit?
Oh, just remembered, I do have a couple of Wisconsins with full cranks.?? 
I keep my thumb out of the way on those and it's been a few years since running them.
David


________________________________
From: Glenn Wilson <wilson at stny.rr.com>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Crank handle attack

I had one crank handle stay on. It scared the begeebers out of me. I yelled for people to get out of the path then found a stick. By then it had come off the tang and was sliding off the shaft. Eventually it just fell on the ground. I gained even more respect than I had previously!? 

Glenn Wilson
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2012, at 10:21 AM, David Myers <walking_tractor at yahoo.com> wrote:

I admit to having been rapped a few times myself.
My biggest worry has always been a stuck crank.? Saw it happen when I was a kid and the fellow actually was successful at knocking it off while running.
I've NEVER been that coordinated (and mostly have been a chicken) to have tried it.
Old proverb:? "Better to be live chicken than dead duck".
Have started this engine so long this way I don't rightly remember if I thunk of it myself or an old-timer taught me.
Have always listened to experience, sometimes I even paid attention.
David


________________________________
From: "jlb94 at juno.com" <jlb94 at juno.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Crank handle attack

I didn't catch this thread from the beginning - But - Sounds like the proper way to use a handcrank to start an engine.
But - There are times when the engine won't start and you get more & more aggrivated and the timing betweem the left and right hand gets outta synk and the next thing you know, you got hit in the jaw and you're on the way to the hospital.

I was lucky, it only knocked my glasses off.


Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
,-._,-.? ? ? http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
\/)"(\/? ? ? If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.
(_0_)? ? ? ? ? ? "In memory of Bre-Dog"? 
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 



---------- Original Message ----------
From: David Myers <walking_tractor at yahoo.com>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>,? ? ? ? Oldengine <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Crank handle attack
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 05:26:31 -0700 (PDT)

If it applies to your engine situation, my method of attack on my Hercules is this.? 
Hold the intake valve open with my left hand, crank with my right.? While engine spins REMOVE CRANK, then let intake valve close, momentum starts engine.? Has saved ouchies more than once.
David


________________________________
From: Patrick Livingstone <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: ATIS <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; Oldengine <stationary-engine at oldengine.org> 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:55 PM
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack

For the second time in 30 years I have been injured by a crank handle. Last
weekend Samuel wanted me to start an engine for him so I decided to give the
2hp R&V a run. It has been a while since I started it and I forgot to retard
the magneto. It fired up easily and the built in crank handle gave my hand
and wrist a good whack. I am pretty impressed with my self control that I
did not swear in front of the little one (which is a good thing as he is at
the age where he repeats everything).
My little mishap means that I am not up for the 6 hour drive to the Rusty
Iron Rally this weekend which I am sad to miss. The Challenge is all loaded
ready to go but it is not going anywhere :(
I now have to rest up ready to take the big Austral to our rally in two
weeks time.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html



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From rotigel at me.com  Fri Aug 31 10:24:43 2012
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:24:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <1346430698.74426.YahooMailNeo@web121502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <20120831.094454.20119.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>
	<1346422868.31507.YahooMailNeo@web121501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<6E91141B-0807-4082-BD8B-2FB12F39DA7C@stny.rr.com>
	<1346430698.74426.YahooMailNeo@web121502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <15F3A19E-C5D4-44D5-86CB-5622EAF986DA@me.com>

David, In the future, please keep in mind that this is a FAMILY FRIENDLY list
	Dave
PS, Goodness gracious, what is this world coming to?

On Aug 31, 2012, at 12:31 PM, David Myers wrote:

> Question for those that have full cranks, do you lube them (or shaft) or are they supposed to be a loose dry fit?
> 
> David
> 



From walking_tractor at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 31 10:50:45 2012
From: walking_tractor at yahoo.com (David Myers)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:50:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Crank handle attack
In-Reply-To: <15F3A19E-C5D4-44D5-86CB-5622EAF986DA@me.com>
References: <20120831.094454.20119.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>
	<1346422868.31507.YahooMailNeo@web121501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<6E91141B-0807-4082-BD8B-2FB12F39DA7C@stny.rr.com>
	<1346430698.74426.YahooMailNeo@web121502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<15F3A19E-C5D4-44D5-86CB-5622EAF986DA@me.com>
Message-ID: <1346435445.1666.YahooMailNeo@web121502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Oh man!? David, I really got carried away there.? So sorry, can the list ever forgive me?
By the way, which way do you lean??? On the matter of lube.? Er, uh, oops I did it again!?? ;-)
David


________________________________
From: Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Crank handle attack

David, In the future, please keep in mind that this is a FAMILY FRIENDLY list
??? Dave
PS, Goodness gracious, what is this world coming to?

On Aug 31, 2012, at 12:31 PM, David Myers wrote:

> Question for those that have full cranks, do you lube them (or shaft) or are they supposed to be a loose dry fit?
> 
> David
> 

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