From rotigel at me.com Wed Jun 1 05:18:04 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 08:18:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Show In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2D9CD7F1-7962-4E41-BC8F-20D08934921A@me.com> It was a GOOD TIME Mate! We will miss you and your dad! Dave On Jun 1, 2011, at 2:04 AM, Russell wrote: > Gee how quick has this come around. Already 12 months since I had a > nice feed of porter house steak and fresh corn compliments of Dave > and co. I will be thinking of you guys having way to much fun. > Coolspring is just something else. > Russell > > > > > > On 01/06/2011, at 3:59 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > >> Hi Gang, >> I talked to Jake about the SEL space for the June Coolspring Show >> (June 16, 17, and 18) several days ago. He will allot us the same >> space we have had for the past 10 years--2nd row at the end by the >> trees. Steve and Mel Weber and I will be posting signs as to the >> boundaries of our area the morning of June 15th. >> Jake has asked that we fill in the area starting at the trees and >> moving toward the entrance in order that we can "give back" any >> unused >> area as of Friday evening. This is because there will be about 30 >> LESS >> spaces this year due to an oil/gas well that has recently been put >> in. >> Hope to see LOTS of LIST members at Coolspring this year! >> Dave >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Wed Jun 1 15:11:23 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George (DS)) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:11:23 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any engine buying by me for awhile. Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold the car and went into the Air Force instead. Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, which was the fastest car of my youth. I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been calling my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the past. This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has been modified to handle the engine. So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild my money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines and tractors. George Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From langer5 at xplornet.ca Wed Jun 1 15:44:14 2011 From: langer5 at xplornet.ca (Larry Anger) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 18:44:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <43D9C180FFCB41A7B11974E9C4D7C7C4@larryf92159205> George - I had a similar experience just yesterday. I wouldn't be able to afford the car I had before I was married, so I bought something a little older. I had a 1957 Ford convertible before I was married but to get another one would be a little pricey so yesterday I bought a 1928 Model A Ford. It is fully restored to original specs and quality and in museum condition. So there goes my slush fund probably for the rest of my days. O well at least my wife approves. That's more than I can say for her love of rusty old engines. Larry Anger. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George (DS) Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any engine buying by me for awhile. Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold the car and went into the Air Force instead. Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, which was the fastest car of my youth. I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been calling my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the past. This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has been modified to handle the engine. So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild my money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines and tractors. George Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? 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Good luck to you Russell On 02/06/2011, at 8:11 AM, Best, George (DS) wrote: > On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any engine buying by me for awhile. > > Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. > > Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. > > Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold the car and went into the Air Force instead. > > Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, which was the fastest car of my youth. > > I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been calling my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. > > Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the past. > > This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has been modified to handle the engine. > > So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild my money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines and tractors. > > George > > Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jun 1 15:48:09 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 08:48:09 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Show In-Reply-To: <2D9CD7F1-7962-4E41-BC8F-20D08934921A@me.com> References: <2D9CD7F1-7962-4E41-BC8F-20D08934921A@me.com> Message-ID: <5936E048-0699-4711-9321-DA4E3BB4D887@ncable.com.au> It was good indeed. Are you stopping by the diner in the mornings for breaky? Watch out for them ground hogs Russ On 01/06/2011, at 10:18 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > It was a GOOD TIME Mate! We will miss you and your dad! > Dave > > On Jun 1, 2011, at 2:04 AM, Russell wrote: > >> Gee how quick has this come around. Already 12 months since I had a >> nice feed of porter house steak and fresh corn compliments of Dave >> and co. I will be thinking of you guys having way to much fun. >> Coolspring is just something else. >> Russell >> >> >> >> >> >> On 01/06/2011, at 3:59 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote: >> >>> Hi Gang, >>> I talked to Jake about the SEL space for the June Coolspring Show >>> (June 16, 17, and 18) several days ago. He will allot us the same >>> space we have had for the past 10 years--2nd row at the end by the >>> trees. Steve and Mel Weber and I will be posting signs as to the >>> boundaries of our area the morning of June 15th. >>> Jake has asked that we fill in the area starting at the trees and >>> moving toward the entrance in order that we can "give back" any >>> unused >>> area as of Friday evening. This is because there will be about 30 >>> LESS >>> spaces this year due to an oil/gas well that has recently been put >>> in. >>> Hope to see LOTS of LIST members at Coolspring this year! >>> Dave >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Wed Jun 1 15:49:36 2011 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (gasenginetom at hotmail.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 18:49:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: George Nice car Now what engines do you wanna sell :-) lol Tom Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: "Best, George (DS)" To: The SEL email discussion list Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2011 22:11:23 GMT+00:00 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any engine buying by me for awhile. Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold the car and went into the Air Force instead. Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, which was the fastest car of my youth. I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been calling my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the past. This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has been modified to handle the engine. So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild my money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines and tractors. George Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? 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MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Best, George (DS)" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any > engine buying by me for awhile. > > Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. > > Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. > > Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon > Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam > wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold the > car and went into the Air Force instead. > > Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, which > was the fastest car of my youth. > > I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been calling > my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. > > Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the > past. > > This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has > been modified to handle the engine. > > So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild my > money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines and > tractors. > > George > > Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments > from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Jun 1 17:22:05 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 20:22:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <43D9C180FFCB41A7B11974E9C4D7C7C4@larryf92159205> Message-ID: Larry, bring your engines too! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Anger" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > George - I had a similar experience just yesterday. I wouldn't be able to > afford the car I had before I was married, so I bought something a little > older. I had a 1957 Ford convertible before I was married but to get > another > one would be a little pricey so yesterday I bought a 1928 Model A Ford. It > is fully restored to original specs and quality and in museum condition. > So > there goes my slush fund probably for the rest of my days. O well at least > my wife approves. That's more than I can say for her love of rusty old > engines. > > Larry Anger. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George > (DS) > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > > On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any > engine > buying by me for awhile. > > Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. > > Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. > > Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon > Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam > wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold the > car and went into the Air Force instead. > > Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, which > was the fastest car of my youth. > > I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been calling > my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. > > Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the > past. > > This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has > been > modified to handle the engine. > > So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild my > money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines and > tractors. > > George > > Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized > representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by > e-mail > and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From langer5 at xplornet.ca Wed Jun 1 17:39:41 2011 From: langer5 at xplornet.ca (Larry Anger) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 20:39:41 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><43D9C180FFCB41A7B11974E9C4D7C7C4@larryf92159205> Message-ID: Mike - My wife would like to see my barn cleaned out. She and I have a difference of opinion regarding rusty iron. The car she admits is OK. Larry. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mike Royster Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:22 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side Larry, bring your engines too! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Anger" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > George - I had a similar experience just yesterday. I wouldn't be able to > afford the car I had before I was married, so I bought something a little > older. I had a 1957 Ford convertible before I was married but to get > another > one would be a little pricey so yesterday I bought a 1928 Model A Ford. It > is fully restored to original specs and quality and in museum condition. > So > there goes my slush fund probably for the rest of my days. O well at least > my wife approves. That's more than I can say for her love of rusty old > engines. > > Larry Anger. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George > (DS) > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > > On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any > engine > buying by me for awhile. > > Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. > > Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. > > Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon > Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam > wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold the > car and went into the Air Force instead. > > Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, which > was the fastest car of my youth. > > I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been calling > my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. > > Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the > past. > > This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has > been > modified to handle the engine. > > So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild my > money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines and > tractors. > > George > > Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized > representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by > e-mail > and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lew at lewslittlefarm.com Wed Jun 1 18:33:41 2011 From: lew at lewslittlefarm.com (Lew Best) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 20:33:41 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <006801cc20c5$23320ab0$69962010$@com> Well back in my high school days I always wanted an MG Midget. Couldn't afford one until just before I got married & I knew that one would be impractical then (bride didn't drive; no room in it to even carry groceries home; much less travel). I was at a "country auction" about a year & a half ago & there was one there! No one knew whether it had an engine or not; couldn't get the bonnet up to see. Had no shift lever & the radiator, a pair of carburetors, etc. were in the boot. I bought it cheap; got it home, got the bonnet open & the engine was there. Had to put points in it & it fired right up; runs good! It even had the title! I think it's really neat to be able to find a "car from your childhood days (though this is a 72 & I was dreaming about one back in the early 60's; body style on this one is the same) I haven't messed with it further; broke my hip in October & now too much catching up to do since I've recovered (full hip replacement at the VA hospital in Houston) There are pix of the car on my website lewslittlefarm.com Lew near Waco, TX -----Original Message----- On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any engine buying by me for awhile. Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold the car and went into the Air Force instead. Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, which was the fastest car of my youth. I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been calling my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the past. This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has been modified to handle the engine. So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild my money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines and tractors. George Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Jun 1 18:55:21 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 18:55:21 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><43D9C180FFCB41A7B11974E9C4D7C7C4@larryf92159205> Message-ID: <20F25BC4-E95C-42E4-9D5C-A01C9992E505@rustyiron.com> On Jun 1, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Larry Anger wrote: > Mike - My wife would like to see my barn cleaned out. She and I have a > difference of opinion regarding rusty iron. The car she admits is OK. Someone please send me Larry's wife's cell phone number. From tchristoff at earthlink.net Wed Jun 1 19:52:38 2011 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:52:38 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side Message-ID: <4239021.1306983158438.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Isn't there a law on how many blue tarps your allowed to have Mike? -----Original Message----- >From: Mike Royster >Sent: Jun 1, 2011 7:21 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > >Bring a trailer full to Coolspring George, I'll help you out!!!!! > >MR >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Best, George (DS)" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM >Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > > >> On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any >> engine buying by me for awhile. >> >> Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. >> >> Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. >> >> Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon >> Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam >> wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold the >> car and went into the Air Force instead. >> >> Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, which >> was the fastest car of my youth. >> >> I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been calling >> my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. >> >> Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the >> past. >> >> This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has >> been modified to handle the engine. >> >> So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild my >> money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines and >> tractors. >> >> George >> >> Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? >> >> >> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >> addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. >> If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an >> authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby >> notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly >> prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please >> notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments >> from your system. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Jun 1 20:07:40 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 23:07:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><43D9C180FFCB41A7B11974E9C4D7C7C4@larryf92159205> <20F25BC4-E95C-42E4-9D5C-A01C9992E505@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Sorry, it can only be dialed from NC. California blocking and all that...... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > > On Jun 1, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Larry Anger wrote: > >> Mike - My wife would like to see my barn cleaned out. She and I have a >> difference of opinion regarding rusty iron. The car she admits is OK. > > Someone please send me Larry's wife's cell phone number. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From george at irontrader.com Wed Jun 1 20:57:15 2011 From: george at irontrader.com (=?utf-8?B?Z2VvcmdlQGlyb250cmFkZXIuY29t?=) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 20:57:15 -0700 Subject: [SEL] =?utf-8?q?OT=3A__Joined_The_Dark_Side?= Message-ID: <20110602035703.D888E65B444@in02.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Sorry Mike but I already have my plane tickets. Plus I have to drive the tour van. You and Steve could always make a west Coast road trip. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Mike Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side Date: Wed, Jun 1, 2011 5:21 pm Bring a trailer full to Coolspring George, I'll help you out!!!!! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Best, George (DS)" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any > engine buying by me for awhile. > > Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. > > Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. > > Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon > Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam > wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold the > car and went into the Air Force instead. > > Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, which > was the fastest car of my youth. > > I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been calling > my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. > > Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the > past. > > This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has > been modified to handle the engine. > > So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild my > money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines and > tractors. > > George > > Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments > from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 01:27:16 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 09:27:16 +0100 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: On 1 June 2011 23:11, Best, George (DS) wrote: > On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any engine buying by me for awhile. > > Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. > > Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. Always liked the Buick straight-8 cars, late 40-'s to early 50's. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rustyiron1 at bigpond.com Thu Jun 2 02:29:16 2011 From: rustyiron1 at bigpond.com (Andy Nicholson) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:29:16 +1000 Subject: [SEL] International M 1.5hp Message-ID: <533D203EA9CC485A8F1DC8313414E9A1@owner916e4fa44> Can some one out there help me. I need some information to finish off my 1925 Inter M 1.5hp. Where do the Decal's go??? Yes I know on the hopper, but which side and what sort?? Can any one put on the right track? Andy Nicholson N/Queensland Aust From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Jun 2 03:39:32 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 06:39:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side References: <4239021.1306983158438.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Yes Tim, current zoning allows me 15 tarps and I only have 4 at present. Load your trailer and come on down! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Christoff" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > Isn't there a law on how many blue tarps your allowed to have Mike? > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Mike Royster >>Sent: Jun 1, 2011 7:21 PM >>To: The SEL email discussion list >>Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side >> >>Bring a trailer full to Coolspring George, I'll help you out!!!!! >> >>MR >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Best, George (DS)" >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM >>Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side >> >> >>> On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any >>> engine buying by me for awhile. >>> >>> Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. >>> >>> Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. >>> >>> Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon >>> Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam >>> wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold >>> the >>> car and went into the Air Force instead. >>> >>> Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, >>> which >>> was the fastest car of my youth. >>> >>> I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been >>> calling >>> my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. >>> >>> Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the >>> past. >>> >>> This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has >>> been modified to handle the engine. >>> >>> So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild >>> my >>> money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines >>> and >>> tractors. >>> >>> George >>> >>> Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >>> addressee and may contain information that is privileged and >>> confidential. >>> If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an >>> authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby >>> notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly >>> prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please >>> notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any >>> attachments >>> from your system. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Tim Christoff > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jlb94 at juno.com Thu Jun 2 11:16:52 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:16:52 GMT Subject: [SEL] International M 1.5hp Message-ID: <20110602.141652.11780.1@webmail21.vgs.untd.com> Hi Andy, I just purchased a 1929 Int'l "M" a few weeks ago. On the right side of the hopper (looking from behind the flywheels) there is a decal approx. 2?" x 6?" that would say McCormick Deering. On the left side of the hopper there is a decal approx 2?" x 2" that I cannot read. It looks like four circles crammed together (like an expanded world globe or something). I have no idea what the printing on this one might be. I am pretty sure my 1? Int'l "M" is original as there is one leg of the skid (starting/working side) that still has "1? HP McCormick Deering" printed on it. Hope this helps. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Andy Nicholson" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: [SEL] International M 1.5hp Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:29:16 +1000 Can some one out there help me. I need some information to finish off my 1925 Inter M 1.5hp. Where do the Decal's go??? Yes I know on the hopper, but which side and what sort?? Can any one put on the right track? Andy Nicholson N/Queensland Aust _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Groupon.com Official Site 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4de7d3c01c820280680st01vuc From jlb94 at juno.com Thu Jun 2 11:20:07 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:20:07 GMT Subject: [SEL] International M 1.5hp Message-ID: <20110602.142007.11780.2@webmail21.vgs.untd.com> Hi Andy - - - I forgot to mention that the decals are centered on the sides of the hopper. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Andy Nicholson" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: [SEL] International M 1.5hp Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:29:16 +1000 Can some one out there help me. I need some information to finish off my 1925 Inter M 1.5hp. Where do the Decal's go??? Yes I know on the hopper, but which side and what sort?? Can any one put on the right track? Andy Nicholson N/Queensland Aust _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Groupon.com Official Site 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4de7d4776c1761a8d2est06vuc From rotigel at me.com Thu Jun 2 14:02:12 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:02:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Show In-Reply-To: <5936E048-0699-4711-9321-DA4E3BB4D887@ncable.com.au> References: <2D9CD7F1-7962-4E41-BC8F-20D08934921A@me.com> <5936E048-0699-4711-9321-DA4E3BB4D887@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <976D0B37-0B1A-42C0-BA07-C6B5145A8E19@me.com> Yup, 7:00 am. Can you and the girls join us? I'll buy! Dave On Jun 1, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Russell wrote: > It was good indeed. Are you stopping by the diner in the mornings > for breaky? Watch out for them ground hogs > Russ > > > On 01/06/2011, at 10:18 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > >> It was a GOOD TIME Mate! We will miss you and your dad! >> Dave >> >> On Jun 1, 2011, at 2:04 AM, Russell wrote: >> >>> Gee how quick has this come around. Already 12 months since I had a >>> nice feed of porter house steak and fresh corn compliments of Dave >>> and co. I will be thinking of you guys having way to much fun. >>> Coolspring is just something else. >>> Russell >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 01/06/2011, at 3:59 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Gang, >>>> I talked to Jake about the SEL space for the June Coolspring Show >>>> (June 16, 17, and 18) several days ago. He will allot us the same >>>> space we have had for the past 10 years--2nd row at the end by the >>>> trees. Steve and Mel Weber and I will be posting signs as to the >>>> boundaries of our area the morning of June 15th. >>>> Jake has asked that we fill in the area starting at the trees and >>>> moving toward the entrance in order that we can "give back" any >>>> unused >>>> area as of Friday evening. This is because there will be about 30 >>>> LESS >>>> spaces this year due to an oil/gas well that has recently been put >>>> in. >>>> Hope to see LOTS of LIST members at Coolspring this year! >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Thu Jun 2 16:06:19 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:06:19 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Show In-Reply-To: <976D0B37-0B1A-42C0-BA07-C6B5145A8E19@me.com> References: <2D9CD7F1-7962-4E41-BC8F-20D08934921A@me.com> <5936E048-0699-4711-9321-DA4E3BB4D887@ncable.com.au> <976D0B37-0B1A-42C0-BA07-C6B5145A8E19@me.com> Message-ID: <9C856B25-FBF1-4B2D-8976-261F8DA681C2@ncable.com.au> Temping thats for sure. The girls say hi Dave. Have a great week. PS: how that hot chick going your married too! Say hi from us also. On 03/06/2011, at 7:02 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > Yup, 7:00 am. Can you and the girls join us? I'll buy! > Dave > > On Jun 1, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Russell wrote: > >> It was good indeed. Are you stopping by the diner in the mornings >> for breaky? Watch out for them ground hogs >> Russ >> >> >> On 01/06/2011, at 10:18 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote: >> >>> It was a GOOD TIME Mate! We will miss you and your dad! >>> Dave >>> >>> On Jun 1, 2011, at 2:04 AM, Russell wrote: >>> >>>> Gee how quick has this come around. Already 12 months since I had a >>>> nice feed of porter house steak and fresh corn compliments of Dave >>>> and co. I will be thinking of you guys having way to much fun. >>>> Coolspring is just something else. >>>> Russell >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 01/06/2011, at 3:59 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Gang, >>>>> I talked to Jake about the SEL space for the June Coolspring Show >>>>> (June 16, 17, and 18) several days ago. He will allot us the same >>>>> space we have had for the past 10 years--2nd row at the end by the >>>>> trees. Steve and Mel Weber and I will be posting signs as to the >>>>> boundaries of our area the morning of June 15th. >>>>> Jake has asked that we fill in the area starting at the trees and >>>>> moving toward the entrance in order that we can "give back" any >>>>> unused >>>>> area as of Friday evening. This is because there will be about 30 >>>>> LESS >>>>> spaces this year due to an oil/gas well that has recently been put >>>>> in. >>>>> Hope to see LOTS of LIST members at Coolspring this year! >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SEL mailing list >>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From tchristoff at earthlink.net Thu Jun 2 18:51:55 2011 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:51:55 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side Message-ID: <7185866.1307065916380.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >> >> Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. Always wanted one of those George. > >Always liked the Buick straight-8 cars, late 40-'s to early 50's. > >Peter >-- I had one of these Peter, it needed a complete rework. I sold it to a guy who was going to turn it into a Hot Rod. Part of the deal was I get to keep the straight-8 (which was all there and in decent condition) engine. Have no plans for the engine but thought it would be neat to save it. Tim Tim Christoff From rustyiron1 at bigpond.com Fri Jun 3 01:08:35 2011 From: rustyiron1 at bigpond.com (Andy Nicholson) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 18:08:35 +1000 Subject: [SEL] International M 1.5hp References: <20110602.141652.11780.1@webmail21.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <285DB057ACC344D6A1AD16E893DBF056@owner916e4fa44> Thanks Joe, The "World Globe" is it coloured, Green H, Red I, or is just a gold colour. There are two listed from a parts suppier here, and I don't know which to get. Knowing my luck I'll stick the wrong one on, and be told by every man and his dog it's wrong. Andy....... ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 4:16 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] International M 1.5hp Hi Andy, I just purchased a 1929 Int'l "M" a few weeks ago. On the right side of the hopper (looking from behind the flywheels) there is a decal approx. 2?" x 6?" that would say McCormick Deering. On the left side of the hopper there is a decal approx 2?" x 2" that I cannot read. It looks like four circles crammed together (like an expanded world globe or something). I have no idea what the printing on this one might be. I am pretty sure my 1? Int'l "M" is original as there is one leg of the skid (starting/working side) that still has "1? HP McCormick Deering" printed on it. Hope this helps. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Andy Nicholson" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: [SEL] International M 1.5hp Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:29:16 +1000 Can some one out there help me. I need some information to finish off my 1925 Inter M 1.5hp. Where do the Decal's go??? Yes I know on the hopper, but which side and what sort?? Can any one put on the right track? Andy Nicholson N/Queensland Aust _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Groupon.com Official Site 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4de7d3c01c820280680st01vuc _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Jun 3 11:20:47 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 20:20:47 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Subject: Re: International M 1.5hp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110603200637.01b2a260@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 03/06/2011, you wrote: Message: 1 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:16:52 GMT From: "jlb94 at juno.com" Subject: Re: [SEL] International M 1.5hp Hi Andy, I just purchased a 1929 Int'l "M" a few weeks ago. On the right side of the hopper (looking from behind the flywheels) there is a decal approx. 2?" x 6?" that would say McCormick Deering. On the left side of the hopper there is a decal approx 2?" x 2" that I cannot read. It looks like four circles crammed together (like an expanded world globe or something). I have no idea what the printing on this one might be. I am pretty sure my 1? Int'l "M" is original as there is one leg of the skid (starting/working side) that still has "1? HP McCormick Deering" printed on it. Hope this helps. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. Hi Joe & Andy, I have redrawn that "Double Globe" decal for reproduction here in South Africa. The one I have done has the world map etc. in shades of blue and grey and all else in Gold with a black outline. There was another "colour scheme" used as well but I would need to go through backups to find that. Bear in mind also that exported models had different markings - many e-mails passed between myself and the late John Hammink on this subject! I have put a pic on my site here: <[1]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/Internat%20Harvesternew%20lo go.jpg> of the one that I have redrawn, it includes the correct size. I unfortunately cannot say which years had this particular decal or which years had the other colour scheme. I think the other colour scheme was just gold with a black outline but would not put my "cock on a block" as to that information. I trust that this info is helpful and does not just add to your confusion !! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: <[2]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> References 1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/Internat%20Harvesternew%20logo.jpg 2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From jlb94 at juno.com Fri Jun 3 13:02:50 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 20:02:50 GMT Subject: [SEL] Subject: Re: International M 1.5hp Message-ID: <20110603.160250.9854.0@webmail15.vgs.untd.com> Hi Jerry, Thanks for the info. That should clear up a lot of confusion. I now know what should be on the left side of the hopper. Right now I have nothing but a yellowish background of a decal. I have no intentions of restoring this engine other than getting it running right, but will keep you in mind if I ever do. The engine starts fine and runs great (considering the fuel pump isn't working right) but the problems come after a run and then trying to restart. Once it's hot, it doesn't want to start. It could be a combination of things. Fuel pump, Sticky valves, Maybe too much carbon in the head, Compression, etc. I'm pretty sure it is a Well Worn Engine. First thing I'll work on is the fuel pump. At first, it was all gummed up and I gave it a "quick clean" just to get the engine running for Nat'l Pike Steam, Gas & Horse Show. It runs fine but - once hot, no run. Thanks again for the sketch of the decal. It is much help. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Jerry Evans To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Subject: Re: International M 1.5hp Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 20:20:47 +0200 At 06:00 PM 03/06/2011, you wrote: Message: 1 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:16:52 GMT From: "jlb94 at juno.com" Subject: Re: [SEL] International M 1.5hp Hi Andy, I just purchased a 1929 Int'l "M" a few weeks ago. On the right side of the hopper (looking from behind the flywheels) there is a decal approx. 2?" x 6?" that would say McCormick Deering. On the left side of the hopper there is a decal approx 2?" x 2" that I cannot read. It looks like four circles crammed together (like an expanded world globe or something). I have no idea what the printing on this one might be. I am pretty sure my 1? Int'l "M" is original as there is one leg of the skid (starting/working side) that still has "1? HP McCormick Deering" printed on it. Hope this helps. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. Hi Joe & Andy, I have redrawn that "Double Globe" decal for reproduction here in South Africa. The one I have done has the world map etc. in shades of blue and grey and all else in Gold with a black outline. There was another "colour scheme" used as well but I would need to go through backups to find that. Bear in mind also that exported models had different markings - many e-mails passed between myself and the late John Hammink on this subject! I have put a pic on my site here: <[1]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/Internat%20Harvesternew%20lo go.jpg> of the one that I have redrawn, it includes the correct size. I unfortunately cannot say which years had this particular decal or which years had the other colour scheme. I think the other colour scheme was just gold with a black outline but would not put my "cock on a block" as to that information. I trust that this info is helpful and does not just add to your confusion !! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: <[2]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> References 1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/Internat%20Harvesternew%20logo.jpg 2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4de93e252a06b2bd92cst02vuc From k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com Sat Jun 4 17:27:20 2011 From: k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com (k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:27:20 +0800 Subject: [SEL] museum out of los angels Message-ID: Hello Members, I am going to the usa next Wednesday and will be stopping in LA for 2 nights 3 days and would like to visit the observatory/museum out side of LA can anyone advise me of the name and how far it is from the LA International airport. we then go to Chicago. Regards Kevin Armstrong From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 23:19:05 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 07:19:05 +0100 Subject: [SEL] museum out of los angels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 5 June 2011 01:27, wrote: > Hello Members, > > I am going to the usa next Wednesday and will be stopping in LA for 2 nights 3 days and would like to visit the observatory/museum out side of LA can anyone advise me of the name and how far it is from the LA International airport. we then go to Chicago. > > Regards > > Kevin Armstrong Mount Wilson Observatory? Larry and Ken Evans are the people to contact, they will have local information and times to go. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jeffchattin at msn.com Sun Jun 5 02:41:52 2011 From: jeffchattin at msn.com (jeff chattin) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 05:41:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] museum out of los angels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://nethercuttcollection.org/ Jeff > From: k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:27:20 +0800 > Subject: [SEL] museum out of los angels > > Hello Members, > > I am going to the usa next Wednesday and will be stopping in LA for 2 nights 3 days and would like to visit the observatory/museum out side of LA can anyone advise me of the name and how far it is from the LA International airport. we then go to Chicago. > > Regards > > Kevin Armstrong > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com Sun Jun 5 19:05:01 2011 From: k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com (kevin armstrong) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:05:01 +0800 Subject: [SEL] museum out of los angels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001801cc23ee$252ff3f0$6f8fdbd0$@com> Thanks jeff, looks a good collection to see, that is not far away from the airport we just have to work out how to get there. Kevin armstrong -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of jeff chattin Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2011 5:42 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] museum out of los angels http://nethercuttcollection.org/ Jeff > From: k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:27:20 +0800 > Subject: [SEL] museum out of los angels > > Hello Members, > > I am going to the usa next Wednesday and will be stopping in LA for 2 nights 3 days and would like to visit the observatory/museum out side of LA can anyone advise me of the name and how far it is from the LA International airport. we then go to Chicago. > > Regards > > Kevin Armstrong > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Sun Jun 5 21:43:14 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 21:43:14 -0700 Subject: [SEL] museum out of los angels In-Reply-To: <001801cc23ee$252ff3f0$6f8fdbd0$@com> References: <001801cc23ee$252ff3f0$6f8fdbd0$@com> Message-ID: On Jun 5, 2011, at 7:05 PM, kevin armstrong wrote: > Thanks jeff, looks a good collection to see, that is not far away from the > airport we just have to work out how to get there. > > Kevin armstrong Hey, Kevin. If you give Nethercutt a call, perhaps you can get in on the tour. You'll get to see stuff that is not open to wandering tourists; it's well worth it. I think the days of the tours are Thursday and Friday. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 13:32:53 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:32:53 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 18 May 2011 20:16, Listerdiesel wrote: Lots of work going on, we are almost ready to roll, albeit without all the 'nice' bits, but we have wheels and a roof over our head, the engine section is completed and the winch is operational. Windows went in today, cushions etc are to be collected tomorrow after the backing material was renewed. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis151.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis152.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis153.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis154.jpg The series of pictures runs from DBChassis1.jpg to DBChassis154.jpg, all are available if you modify the URLs above Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From bobpaton at exemail.com.au Mon Jun 6 14:01:55 2011 From: bobpaton at exemail.com.au (Bob paton) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 07:01:55 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001cc248c$f77f2cb0$e67d8610$@com.au> Peter That's looking very nice indeed. A very professional piece of work all the way through. Even that nice touch of a built-in hook on the front outside wall to hang up an outdoor shower. Looks like you could move in soon! Bob Paton in Leura NSW Oz -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2011 6:33 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Cc: Stationary-Engine Subject: Re: [SEL] Trailer Update On 18 May 2011 20:16, Listerdiesel wrote: Lots of work going on, we are almost ready to roll, albeit without all the 'nice' bits, but we have wheels and a roof over our head, the engine section is completed and the winch is operational. Windows went in today, cushions etc are to be collected tomorrow after the backing material was renewed. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis151.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis152.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis153.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis154.jpg The series of pictures runs from DBChassis1.jpg to DBChassis154.jpg, all are available if you modify the URLs above Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From kosh at ncweb.com Mon Jun 6 15:36:56 2011 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 18:36:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: <000001cc248c$f77f2cb0$e67d8610$@com.au> References: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20110606183619.037a4180@ncweb.com> Are you going to bother with a shower curtain? Dave Merchant At 05:01 PM 6/6/2011, you wrote: >Peter >That's looking very nice indeed. A very professional piece of work all the >way through. Even that nice touch of a built-in hook on the front outside >wall to hang up an outdoor shower. Looks like you could move in soon! >Bob Paton in Leura NSW Oz > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel >Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2011 6:33 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Cc: Stationary-Engine >Subject: Re: [SEL] Trailer Update > >On 18 May 2011 20:16, Listerdiesel wrote: > >Lots of work going on, we are almost ready to roll, albeit without all >the 'nice' bits, but we have wheels and a roof over our head, the >engine section is completed and the winch is operational. Windows went >in today, cushions etc are to be collected tomorrow after the backing >material was renewed. > >http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis151.jpg > >http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis152.jpg > >http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis153.jpg > >http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis154.jpg > >The series of pictures runs from DBChassis1.jpg to DBChassis154.jpg, >all are available if you modify the URLs above > >Peter >-- >Peter A Forbes >Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com >http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel >http://stationary-engine.co.uk >http://www.oldengine.co.uk >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at ncweb.com kosh at nesys.com dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 23:46:45 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 07:46:45 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20110606183619.037a4180@ncweb.com> References: <000001cc248c$f77f2cb0$e67d8610$@com.au> <5.2.0.9.0.20110606183619.037a4180@ncweb.com> Message-ID: On 6 June 2011 23:36, Dave Merchant wrote: > Are you going to bother with a shower curtain? > > Dave Merchant There is a complete bathroom unit to go in, we just won't have time before Nuenen, and they have mobile showers on the site, one of the very few that do. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Jun 7 12:42:50 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:42:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15290c6a181c80c73346d582abb68c1a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Peter, Sounds like you'll have the rig at Nuenen then? Looking forward to seeing you there!! See ya, Arnie On Mon, June 6, 2011 4:32 pm, Listerdiesel wrote: > On 18 May 2011 20:16, Listerdiesel wrote: > > Lots of work going on, we are almost ready to roll, albeit without all > the 'nice' bits, but we have wheels and a roof over our head, the > engine section is completed and the winch is operational. Windows went > in today, cushions etc are to be collected tomorrow after the backing > material was renewed. > > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis151.jpg > > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis152.jpg > > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis153.jpg > > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis154.jpg > > The series of pictures runs from DBChassis1.jpg to DBChassis154.jpg, > all are available if you modify the URLs above > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > From cwja at telus.net Tue Jun 7 14:07:12 2011 From: cwja at telus.net (C. W. Jefferys Allen) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 15:07:12 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Subject: Re: International M 1.5hp In-Reply-To: <20110603.160250.9854.0@webmail15.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110603.160250.9854.0@webmail15.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <4DEE9300.8080309@telus.net> Hi Joe; I have found a very successful way of repairing and improving the action of International fuel pumps . I first make up a brass washer (or steel if you keep oil on the pump plunger) that is a smooth fit of the inside bore of the packing cavity and a smooth fit on the plunger shaft. Take out all the worn out graphite packing string. Wrap the shaft with about 1/16 " thick of teflon thread tape for the entire length of the shaft that is inside the packing cavity. Then replace the graphite string with plumbers teflon packing string to mostly fill the cavity and then wrap agin with teflon thread tape to keep the whole thing together while you put this newly pack plunger back into the plunger cavity. Make sure you have put the plunger spring and new brass washer in place before putting on the packing. Reassemble the pump and put on the engine. As the pump works, the spring pressure slowly compresses the teflon tape and string to make a solid packing of pure teflon. The lubricating property of the teflon makes it work inspite of gas which with the graphite packing ofter washed out the graphite and makes your pump leak. The teflon plug gets tighter and tighter on the shaft and acts as a liquid tight seal like nothing else in the world and my pumps have never leaked or been inoperative again over many years of doing this repair. A squirt of oil once in a while on the plunger shafts keeps everything working well. Make sure your check balls are clean and working when you have the pump apart and the pump will work flawlessly. Hope this is of some help. Jeff Allen, Edmonton, Alberta Canada jlb94 at juno.com wrote: >Hi Jerry, >Thanks for the info. That should clear up a lot of confusion. I now know what should be on the left side of the hopper. Right now I have nothing but a yellowish background of a decal. >I have no intentions of restoring this engine other than getting it running right, but will keep you in mind if I ever do. >The engine starts fine and runs great (considering the fuel pump isn't working right) but the problems come after a run and then trying to restart. Once it's hot, it doesn't want to start. >It could be a combination of things. Fuel pump, Sticky valves, Maybe too much carbon in the head, Compression, etc. I'm pretty sure it is a Well Worn Engine. First thing I'll work on is the fuel pump. At first, it was all gummed up and I gave it a "quick clean" just to get the engine running for Nat'l Pike Steam, Gas & Horse Show. >It runs fine but - once hot, no run. >Thanks again for the sketch of the decal. It is much help. > > > >Joe "Pip" Betz said that. >jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time > (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. > > > > > > >---------- Original Message ---------- >From: Jerry Evans >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Subject: [SEL] Subject: Re: International M 1.5hp >Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 20:20:47 +0200 > > At 06:00 PM 03/06/2011, you wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:16:52 GMT > From: "jlb94 at juno.com" > Subject: Re: [SEL] International M 1.5hp > Hi Andy, > I just purchased a 1929 Int'l "M" a few weeks ago. > On the right side of the hopper (looking from behind the flywheels) > there is a decal > approx. 2?" x 6?" that would say McCormick Deering. > On the left side of the hopper there is a decal approx 2?" x 2" that > I cannot read. > It looks like four circles crammed together (like an expanded world > globe or something). > I have no idea what the printing on this one might be. > I am pretty sure my 1? Int'l "M" is original as there is one leg of > the skid > (starting/working side) that still has "1? HP McCormick Deering" > printed on it. > Hope this helps. > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > > Hi Joe & Andy, > I have redrawn that "Double Globe" decal for reproduction here > in South Africa. The one I have done has the world map etc. in shades > of blue and grey and all else in Gold with a black outline. There was > another "colour scheme" used as well but I would need to go through > backups to find that. Bear in mind also that exported models had > different markings - many e-mails passed between myself and the late > John Hammink on this subject! > I have put a pic on my site here: > <[1]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/Internat%20Harvesternew%20lo > go.jpg> > of the one that I have redrawn, it includes the correct size. > I unfortunately cannot say which years had this particular > decal or which years had the other colour scheme. I think the other > colour scheme was just gold with a black outline but would not put my > "cock on a block" as to that information. > I trust that this info is helpful and does not just add to your > confusion !! > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > <[2]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> > >References > > 1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/Internat%20Harvesternew%20logo.jpg > 2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >____________________________________________________________ >Groupon™ Official Site >1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4de93e252a06b2bd92cst02vuc >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 15:02:04 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 23:02:04 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: <2048688183.78831307447377279.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: <2048688183.78831307447377279.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: On 7 June 2011 12:49, wrote: > Hi Peter, > Have been watching the progress on your master piece trailer and was wondering what the ball hitch thingy is on the upper back end of the unit??? > Curt That's the parking point for the drawbar, Curt: http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis147.jpg The drawbar is about 6ft long and extends out in front, but when parked at our place, it overhangs the pavement and the road, so we swivel the coupling head 180 degrees and hook it up to that ball. It has a lock in the head so pretty thief-proof as well. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 14:57:50 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 22:57:50 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: <15290c6a181c80c73346d582abb68c1a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <15290c6a181c80c73346d582abb68c1a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: On 7 June 2011 20:42, Arnie Fero wrote: > Peter, > > Sounds like you'll have the rig at Nuenen then? ?Looking forward to seeing you there!! > > See ya, ?Arnie Still got things to do, worked up until 10.30pm tonight, laying in lighting and low voltage cabling. Brake linkage has been an issue but noiw almost sorted. Hope to have it at Nuenen, would be gutted if we couldn't make it, even if some of the fitting out isn't completed. Bl**dy engine compartment is all finished! :-)) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Jun 8 00:39:34 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 03:39:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: <15290c6a181c80c73346d582abb68c1a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <90b0b057bc4f681a455a9d0ee508d25a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Brakes? Don't need no steenkin' brakes. It's all flat between England and Nuenen. Besides, you have the most important bits done; engine compartment and roof. 8-)) See ya in a couple... Arnie On Tue, June 7, 2011 5:57 pm, Listerdiesel wrote: > Still got things to do, worked up until 10.30pm tonight, laying in > lighting and low voltage cabling. Brake linkage has been an issue but > noiw almost sorted. > > Hope to have it at Nuenen, would be gutted if we couldn't make it, > even if some of the fitting out isn't completed. > > Bl**dy engine compartment is all finished! :-)) From cgandree at mchsi.com Wed Jun 8 03:39:32 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 05:39:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1167409713.280481307529572742.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Wow Peter you thought of everything. Never saw a front hitch set up like that over here. Thanks for the explaination. Curt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org Cc: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 5:02:04 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [SEL] Trailer Update On 7 June 2011 12:49, wrote: > Hi Peter, > Have been watching the progress on your master piece trailer and was wondering what the ball hitch thingy is on the upper back end of the unit??? > Curt That's the parking point for the drawbar, Curt: http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis147.jpg The drawbar is about 6ft long and extends out in front, but when parked at our place, it overhangs the pavement and the road, so we swivel the coupling head 180 degrees and hook it up to that ball. It has a lock in the head so pretty thief-proof as well. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Jun 8 04:50:43 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 07:50:43 EDT Subject: [SEL] Subject: Re: International M 1.5hp Message-ID: <8b489.37092209.3b20bc13@aol.com> In a message dated 6/7/2011 5:14:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cwja at telus.net writes: with plumbers teflon packing string Jeff, I have used the packing string also, but never thought about wrapping the shaft and outside of the string with Teflon tape. Sounds like a great idea to file away for the future. Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From cgandree at mchsi.com Wed Jun 8 06:43:33 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 08:43:33 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] Dave Croft Message-ID: <216875856.302961307540613267.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Hi All, Our good friend Dave Croft has experienced a complete PC melt down and loss of all files, addresses,etc. He just got a new PC with Windows 7 and having great difficulty getting on to the lists and emails. If you could give him some support by emailing your contact info to he would greatly appreciate it. Thank you, Curt Andree From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Wed Jun 8 07:27:18 2011 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 10:27:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] H.M. Spence start up movie In-Reply-To: <216875856.302961307540613267.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: <216875856.302961307540613267.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: Here's another new toy I just got around to starting up for the first time last night http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hld8Pnhxm1o Tom Winland Ohio From lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Jun 8 08:19:52 2011 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:19:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] H.M. Spence start up movie In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You've got that baby sounding good Tom. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tom Winland Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:27 AM To: SEL list Subject: [SEL] H.M. Spence start up movie Here's another new toy I just got around to starting up for the first time last night http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hld8Pnhxm1o Tom Winland Ohio _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 10:49:05 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:49:05 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: <90b0b057bc4f681a455a9d0ee508d25a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <15290c6a181c80c73346d582abb68c1a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <90b0b057bc4f681a455a9d0ee508d25a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: On 8 June 2011 08:39, Arnie Fero wrote: > Brakes? ?Don't need no steenkin' brakes. ?It's all flat between England and Nuenen. > Besides, you have the most important bits done; engine compartment and roof. ?8-)) > > See ya in a couple... ?Arnie We now have fully operational brakes.... Working on the lights tonight, loading tomorrow after a trip to the weighbridge. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 11:05:29 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 19:05:29 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 8 June 2011 18:55, Elden wrote: > Peter: > > You're a little like me, I think. > > In the early '80's, a week after putting the new Perkins 4.154 > engine in my 1950 Chevrolet, Elaine and I went on a several > thousand mile trip to the Colorado Rocky Mountains. ?Just a > little "test run" to seat the rings. ?:-) > > Have fun at Nuenen! ?I wish I could go once in my lifetime but I > don't think it's gonna happen. > > Take care - Elden It's a great show, as Arnie and the others can confirm. Try and make it, If we can get to Zolfo, you 'should' be able to make Nuenen. Most of the trailer has already been run in terms of the chassis etc as we did 300 miles running about before it came back painted, so I'm not expecting anything major :-)) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From George_Best at adp.com Wed Jun 8 12:50:03 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George (DS)) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 14:50:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Shows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F574D305B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Elden, As Peter, Arnie, and many others can confirm, the Nuenen show is one every serious engine collector should attend at least once in their life. I don't have a bucket list, but if I had a bucket list of engine shows, Nuenen would definitely be on it. Next week I get to be at another bucket list level of show by going to Coolspring for the first time. Just curious as to what other shows people think of as being world class and worth the expense to travel to? "World Class" to me are shows where you can see slide valve engines and other pre-1900 engines. I'd also include the Portland Indiana show as a world class engine show. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From rotigel at me.com Wed Jun 8 13:22:40 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:22:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Ford's Model T Factory at Dearborn, MI References: <3138BA4469BE4F80A13B4F6D3E168711@yourf1codsr2i9> Message-ID: <0DFE33C4-860D-4D1B-A2FE-540093551C75@me.com> > > Impressive footage of Ford's construction of the Model T at > Dearborn, MI. Really shows that first assembly line process at work > and all the risks implicit in it too. Later portions show Model T's > on the road and the almost incredible conditions they could rather > readily surmount. In all, a great primary historical source > document. It only takes 5 minutes and 16 seconds; but, is sure well > worth it! > > http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=S4KrIMZpwCY From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Jun 8 14:53:38 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 17:53:38 EDT Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Shows Message-ID: <4fe8e.991050.3b214962@aol.com> In a message dated 6/8/2011 3:54:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, George_Best at adp.com writes: Just curious as to what other shows people think of as being world class and worth the expense to travel to? Southeast Old Threshers Reunion, Denton, North Carolina, 5 days around the 4th of July. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From George_Best at adp.com Wed Jun 8 15:22:59 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George (DS)) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 17:22:59 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Shows In-Reply-To: <4fe8e.991050.3b214962@aol.com> References: <4fe8e.991050.3b214962@aol.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F574D386A@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Tom, I'm sure it's a fine show, but do people from other countries come to this show as their primary reason for being in this country? I've heard of the show, but really don't know anything about it. Of course Bucket List shows don't have to be world class, just being a great show is okay for people with smaller buckets ;-) I know that Nuenen, Coolspring, Portland all are destination shows where people travel great distances just to attend those shows. I think the National Rally or whatever the Aussie's call their big show would rate as a bucket list level show. I hope to visit it some year, just don't know when yet. The Rollag show is also a show that I think people should attend at least once. Although it isn't primarily an engine show, it is so big and has so much to see that you need to be there at least once. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Germoamer at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:54 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] Bucket List Shows In a message dated 6/8/2011 3:54:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, George_Best at adp.com writes: Just curious as to what other shows people think of as being world class and worth the expense to travel to? Southeast Old Threshers Reunion, Denton, North Carolina, 5 days around the 4th of July. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Jun 8 15:58:55 2011 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:58:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Shows In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F574D386A@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <80E1E4FBAA8C434ABDE61DA1BA3A741A@ckcsdb40cdd57a> George and Tom, I attend Denton every year. As far as engine shows go, there are others that are bigger, where people display more oddball stuff, etc. But, the reason my family goes there every year is because it has something for everyone. My daughter likes trains and there is a full size steam locomotive there and there is a couple miles of rail circling the show. They have steam shovels and steam cranes showing how work was done 100 years ago. They have plowing with steam traction engines and the large gas tractors. My wife loves music and there are country, gospel and other music shows with big name acts. And, there is a LOT of good food on the grounds (you can tell by looking at me that I kind of like that part of it too!). I don't know that I'd travel to Europe to see an engine show just like it. But, I don't mind driving 9 hours to attend Denton. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George (DS) Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:23 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Bucket List Shows Tom, I'm sure it's a fine show, but do people from other countries come to this show as their primary reason for being in this country? I've heard of the show, but really don't know anything about it. Of course Bucket List shows don't have to be world class, just being a great show is okay for people with smaller buckets ;-) I know that Nuenen, Coolspring, Portland all are destination shows where people travel great distances just to attend those shows. I think the National Rally or whatever the Aussie's call their big show would rate as a bucket list level show. I hope to visit it some year, just don't know when yet. The Rollag show is also a show that I think people should attend at least once. Although it isn't primarily an engine show, it is so big and has so much to see that you need to be there at least once. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Germoamer at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:54 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] Bucket List Shows In a message dated 6/8/2011 3:54:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, George_Best at adp.com writes: Just curious as to what other shows people think of as being world class and worth the expense to travel to? Southeast Old Threshers Reunion, Denton, North Carolina, 5 days around the 4th of July. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 16:49:46 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 09:49:46 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Shows In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F574D305B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: For the bucket list I would consider Nuenen, Coolsprings, Portland, 1000 Engine Rally, & an Eastern states Australian National Rally (no offense to those in the west but there are a lot more engines and collectors in the eastern states). Patrick On 9/6/11 5:50 AM, "Best, George (DS)" wrote: > Elden, > > As Peter, Arnie, and many others can confirm, the Nuenen show is one every > serious engine collector should attend at least once in their life. > > I don't have a bucket list, but if I had a bucket list of engine shows, Nuenen > would definitely be on it. > > Next week I get to be at another bucket list level of show by going to > Coolspring for the first time. > > Just curious as to what other shows people think of as being world class and > worth the expense to travel to? > > "World Class" to me are shows where you can see slide valve engines and other > pre-1900 engines. > > I'd also include the Portland Indiana show as a world class engine show. > > George > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If > the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized > representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail > and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From Jim at hardmanfamily.net Wed Jun 8 17:35:47 2011 From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net (Jim Hardman) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 20:35:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Ford's Model T Factory ... and Coolspring In-Reply-To: <0DFE33C4-860D-4D1B-A2FE-540093551C75@me.com> References: <3138BA4469BE4F80A13B4F6D3E168711@yourf1codsr2i9> <0DFE33C4-860D-4D1B-A2FE-540093551C75@me.com> Message-ID: Dave, This is a great presentation. It has been circulating, but it sure is worth watching again. What a great era. We look forward to seeing everyone at Coolspring! Tom and I will be arriving early and will check in to say hello. For anyone "on the fence", waffling about whether or not to attend, just DO IT. This is one great show, with as good a display of engines as you are likely to find. Bring your camera. Warm regards to all, Jim in Vermont ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" To: ; "Antique tractor email discussion group" ; "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:22 PM Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Ford's Model T Factory at Dearborn, MI >> Impressive footage of Ford's construction of the Model T at >> Dearborn, MI. Really shows that first assembly line process at work >> and all the risks implicit in it too. Later portions show Model T's >> on the road and the almost incredible conditions they could rather >> readily surmount. In all, a great primary historical source >> document. It only takes 5 minutes and 16 seconds; but, is sure well >> worth it! >> >> http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=S4KrIMZpwCY > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Jun 8 18:02:04 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 21:02:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] H.M. Spence start up movie References: <216875856.302961307540613267.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: That's a killer Tom! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Winland" To: "SEL list" Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:27 AM Subject: [SEL] H.M. Spence start up movie > > Here's another new toy I just got around to starting up for the first time > last night > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hld8Pnhxm1o > > Tom Winland > Ohio > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From andyglines at hotmail.com Wed Jun 8 20:46:26 2011 From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 23:46:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SIAM show Message-ID: We are looking forward to seeing everyone at the SIAM show this weekend. http://siam-club.hypermart.net/siam_013.htm Its always great to visit with old friends and make a few new ones. From frappi at wcoil.com Wed Jun 8 21:12:22 2011 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 00:12:22 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Shows In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F574D305B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad .adp.com> References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F574D305B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <20110609041239.E6C0D95FC@smtp.wcoil.com> Myself having been to both Denton NC and to Mt Pleasent IA which are similar type of shows if I had to choose just one I would go to Mt Pleasant. Not a lot of rare engines like Coolsprings but a very well rounded show but strong on Steam. Museum buildings, Full size trains, trollys and the like. Definitely a bucket list show for its type of event. But I remember the term Slide Valve Engines and the like being one of the major criteria spoken of, so Coolsprings hands down. Theres just nothing quite like Coolsprings. After that I hear Rollag is a must see from people I would trust to make that determination. I also hear Berryville W V. is a good one but have never been there myself. In my neck of the woods Findlay Ohio is a good one. Mark Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From cwja at telus.net Thu Jun 9 08:51:41 2011 From: cwja at telus.net (C. W. Jefferys Allen) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 09:51:41 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Message-ID: <4DF0EC0D.8080708@telus.net> Just to throw my two bits into the fray... I have not been able to get to Nuenen but I have been to the Panningen show near Venlo in south Holland at least fout times because of available holiday times. This show is the largest show in Europe and is a must see. Panningen takes up in Canadian measure over a section of land, three huge beer tents, sometimes up to 1200 engines and tractors, all sorts of other displays for wives and children, lots of food, ample parking, and large swap and sale area. The Pannigen show usually is the last weekend in July. Go on to the http://www.hmtklep.nl/en/ihf/ website for information. I have a Dutch wife and we come regularly to Holland to see her relatives. Jeff Allen, Alberta, Canada From George_Best at adp.com Thu Jun 9 09:06:50 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George (DS)) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:06:50 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Bucket List In-Reply-To: <4DF0EC0D.8080708@telus.net> References: <4DF0EC0D.8080708@telus.net> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F5755E42F@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> I've been to the HMT (Pannigen show) one time and agree that it is a nice show. Although given the choice between Nuenen and Pannigen, I would choose Nuenen. But then my primary interest is engines. I would like to go to the HMT show again sometime as there was a lot to see there. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of C. W. Jefferys Allen Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:52 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Just to throw my two bits into the fray... I have not been able to get to Nuenen but I have been to the Panningen show near Venlo in south Holland at least fout times because of available holiday times. This show is the largest show in Europe and is a must see. Panningen takes up in Canadian measure over a section of land, three huge beer tents, sometimes up to 1200 engines and tractors, all sorts of other displays for wives and children, lots of food, ample parking, and large swap and sale area. The Pannigen show usually is the last weekend in July. Go on to the http://www.hmtklep.nl/en/ihf/ website for information. I have a Dutch wife and we come regularly to Holland to see her relatives. Jeff Allen, Alberta, Canada _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From curt at rustyiron.com Thu Jun 9 11:30:59 2011 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:30:59 -0600 Subject: [SEL] SIAM show In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7244f43aea2b8683fb9f40f1e988bf74.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Andy, We will miss SIAM this year, as son Devin will be graduating from High School on Saturday. Devin likes SIAM so much he even suggested skipping his graduation! He will miss blacksmith CJ this year and the next 4, due to college attendance, but we will be back next year. Give our best to all and we'll be thinking of ya'll this weekend. Curt, Missy, and Devin Holland > > We are looking forward to seeing everyone at the SIAM show this weekend. > http://siam-club.hypermart.net/siam_013.htm Its always great to visit > with old friends and make a few new ones. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From curt at rustyiron.com Thu Jun 9 11:50:16 2011 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:50:16 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Shows In-Reply-To: <20110609041239.E6C0D95FC@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F574D305B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <20110609041239.E6C0D95FC@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <3edc9657c1232a095cf5c80cd905d1c2.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Mark, I echo your preference of Mt. Pleasant for several reasons. There is SO much more to see at Mt. Pleasant, especially in the way if steam. We also really enjoyed all the horse (4 legged) powered thrashing, grinding, milling demo's set up there. The car museum was phenomenal also. Lastly, at Mt. Pleasant you don't have to put up with the owner's problematic wife, who's attitude is nothing short of bi%&h. I'll never step foot in Denton again, and that sentiment is echoed by a lot of local engine folks who now refuse to attend Denton. If anyone is on the fence concerning these two show, by all means choose Mt. Pleasant. Curt Holland > > > Myself having been to both Denton NC and to Mt Pleasent IA which are > similar type of shows if I had to choose just one I would go to Mt > Pleasant. Not a lot of rare engines like Coolsprings but a very well > rounded show but strong on Steam. Museum buildings, Full size trains, > trollys and the like. Definitely a bucket list show for its type of > event. But I remember the term Slide Valve Engines and the like > being one of the major criteria spoken of, so Coolsprings hands > down. Theres just nothing quite like Coolsprings. > After that I hear Rollag is a must see from people I would trust to > make that determination. I also hear Berryville W V. is a good one > but have never been there myself. > In my neck of the woods Findlay Ohio is a good > one. Mark > > > > > > Mark Shulaw > 454 County Road 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From curt at rustyiron.com Thu Jun 9 12:35:05 2011 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:35:05 -0600 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: <4239021.1306983158438.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <4239021.1306983158438.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: > Isn't there a law on how many blue tarps your allowed to have Mike? Tim, There is indeed an ordinance in Shelby on the number of blue tarps allowed on a given property. However, given that Mike is a politician/councilman he just conveniently raises the maximum allowable number when his count of blue tarps approaches the previous maximum. Truth is, control of this ordinance was the primary reason for his entry into politics. It wasn't bad enough that there is a sea of blue tarps in the back yard, but due to his never ending devotion to engine hobby work and neglect of house maintenance, he's had to resort to a patchwork of blue tarps on various locations of his house roof. It wasn't so bad when the tarps were on the back side of the house protecting the Model T and the kitchen cabinets from drips, but when he began draping them over the top of the roof making them visible to the rest of the neighborhood the complaining began. Lately I've noticed that Mike is perfecting the art of "shingling" blue tarps, allowing him to purchase the less expensive 10 x 10 Walmart tarps, yet he can cover VERY large portions of the roof with this method. I read in the local paper that Mike's latest city council proposal to standardize the roof color of all Shelby homes to blue has not been met with much enthusiasm. Most see it as his thinly disguised attempt to avoid house work. No doubt his wife Ann is quite pleased that his roof color proposal was dead on arrival. And speaking of Ann, sadly she is the victim in the blue tarp saga. She can no longer take a shower if it is raining outside, because no amount of hot water will offset the cold rain than comes thru the roof directly over the shower. Mike keeps promising to install a blue tarp over that area too, but so far is neglecting her needs (poor choice of words-but applicable). So now you know the whole saga. Really quite sad isn't it. Curt Holland > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Mike Royster >>Sent: Jun 1, 2011 7:21 PM >>To: The SEL email discussion list >>Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side >> >>Bring a trailer full to Coolspring George, I'll help you out!!!!! >> >>MR >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Best, George (DS)" >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM >>Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side >> >> >>> On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any >>> engine buying by me for awhile. >>> >>> Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. >>> >>> Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. >>> >>> Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon >>> Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle >>> Sam >>> wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold >>> the >>> car and went into the Air Force instead. >>> >>> Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, >>> which >>> was the fastest car of my youth. >>> >>> I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been >>> calling >>> my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. >>> >>> Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the >>> past. >>> >>> This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has >>> been modified to handle the engine. >>> >>> So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild >>> my >>> money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines >>> and >>> tractors. >>> >>> George >>> >>> Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >>> addressee and may contain information that is privileged and >>> confidential. >>> If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an >>> authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby >>> notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly >>> prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please >>> notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any >>> attachments >>> from your system. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Tim Christoff > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 9 12:51:09 2011 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Shows In-Reply-To: <3edc9657c1232a095cf5c80cd905d1c2.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F574D305B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <20110609041239.E6C0D95FC@smtp.wcoil.com> <3edc9657c1232a095cf5c80cd905d1c2.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <312302.55305.qm@web112608.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I can't say anything one way or the other about the European shows, since I have not been to any but the American shows that I think that every collector should visit at least once are, in order of importance: Cool Spring, no need to say more Portland, both quality and quantity Mount Pleasant, lots of steam and gas engines Rollag, lots of Prairie tractors and the Withers Otto collection The Little Log House show at Hastings, MN, lots of permanent displays, lots of gas engines and a nice grounds. ? Of course, there are a lot of other great shows. I like Sandwich, Rock River, Freeport, Marshalltown, IA and (of course) Baraboo. For me, the best show is the one that I see the most friends at.... Joe ? Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan From George_Best at adp.com Thu Jun 9 13:06:52 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George (DS)) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 15:06:52 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: References: <4239021.1306983158438.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F575BBB29@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Curt, I thought you were going to say that Ann couldn't take showers anymore because Mike had taken the blue tarp they had been using for a shower curtain to cover one of his engines! George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of curt at rustyiron.com Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 12:35 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > Isn't there a law on how many blue tarps your allowed to have Mike? Tim, There is indeed an ordinance in Shelby on the number of blue tarps allowed on a given property. However, given that Mike is a politician/councilman he just conveniently raises the maximum allowable number when his count of blue tarps approaches the previous maximum. Truth is, control of this ordinance was the primary reason for his entry into politics. It wasn't bad enough that there is a sea of blue tarps in the back yard, but due to his never ending devotion to engine hobby work and neglect of house maintenance, he's had to resort to a patchwork of blue tarps on various locations of his house roof. It wasn't so bad when the tarps were on the back side of the house protecting the Model T and the kitchen cabinets from drips, but when he began draping them over the top of the roof making them visible to the rest of the neighborhood the complaining began. Lately I've noticed that Mike is perfecting the art of "shingling" blue tarps, allowing him to purchase the less expensive 10 x 10 Walmart tarps, yet he can cover VERY large portions of the roof with this method. I read in the local paper that Mike's latest city council proposal to standardize the roof color of all Shelby homes to blue has not been met with much enthusiasm. Most see it as his thinly disguised attempt to avoid house work. No doubt his wife Ann is quite pleased that his roof color proposal was dead on arrival. And speaking of Ann, sadly she is the victim in the blue tarp saga. She can no longer take a shower if it is raining outside, because no amount of hot water will offset the cold rain than comes thru the roof directly over the shower. Mike keeps promising to install a blue tarp over that area too, but so far is neglecting her needs (poor choice of words-but applicable). So now you know the whole saga. Really quite sad isn't it. Curt Holland > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Mike Royster >>Sent: Jun 1, 2011 7:21 PM >>To: The SEL email discussion list >>Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side >> >>Bring a trailer full to Coolspring George, I'll help you out!!!!! >> >>MR >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Best, George (DS)" >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM >>Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side >> >> >>> On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any >>> engine buying by me for awhile. >>> >>> Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. >>> >>> Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. >>> >>> Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon >>> Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle >>> Sam >>> wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold >>> the >>> car and went into the Air Force instead. >>> >>> Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, >>> which >>> was the fastest car of my youth. >>> >>> I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been >>> calling >>> my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. >>> >>> Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the >>> past. >>> >>> This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has >>> been modified to handle the engine. >>> >>> So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild >>> my >>> money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines >>> and >>> tractors. >>> >>> George >>> >>> Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >>> addressee and may contain information that is privileged and >>> confidential. >>> If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an >>> authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby >>> notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly >>> prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please >>> notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any >>> attachments >>> from your system. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Tim Christoff > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Jun 9 13:06:12 2011 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:06:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Shows In-Reply-To: <3edc9657c1232a095cf5c80cd905d1c2.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <5B016F8DD05F4892B79A42DDFF299FFC@laruecounty.courthouse> Curt, I've been to Mt. Pleasant once and I have to agree, it's a dandy show. You won't hear me disagree with you about the Brown's wife....she's something. She railed at me once, I turned and railed twice as much back at her. I've not had a problem with her since. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of curt at rustyiron.com Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 2:50 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Bucket List Shows Mark, I echo your preference of Mt. Pleasant for several reasons. There is SO much more to see at Mt. Pleasant, especially in the way if steam. We also really enjoyed all the horse (4 legged) powered thrashing, grinding, milling demo's set up there. The car museum was phenomenal also. Lastly, at Mt. Pleasant you don't have to put up with the owner's problematic wife, who's attitude is nothing short of bi%&h. I'll never step foot in Denton again, and that sentiment is echoed by a lot of local engine folks who now refuse to attend Denton. If anyone is on the fence concerning these two show, by all means choose Mt. Pleasant. Curt Holland From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 15:28:56 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 23:28:56 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 15 April 2011 17:24, Listerdiesel wrote: Here are a few images of the beast parked outside the factory: http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished1.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished2.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished3.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished4.jpg The Ruston is loaded in the back, you can see the trolley drawbar in the picture of the back with the drawbridge hanging open on the safety chains. We leave at 5am tomorrow, will be in Holland by about 5pm local time. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From George_Best at adp.com Thu Jun 9 15:39:58 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George (DS)) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:39:58 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F575BC29D@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Peter, I must say it has been interesting watching the progress on your trailer project. I've been quite impressed with the quality of the workmanship and design. Have a great time at Nuenen! Wish I could be there. Maybe next year. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 3:29 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Cc: Stationary-Engine Subject: Re: [SEL] Trailer Update On 15 April 2011 17:24, Listerdiesel wrote: Here are a few images of the beast parked outside the factory: http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished1.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished2.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished3.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished4.jpg The Ruston is loaded in the back, you can see the trolley drawbar in the picture of the back with the drawbridge hanging open on the safety chains. We leave at 5am tomorrow, will be in Holland by about 5pm local time. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From tchristoff at earthlink.net Thu Jun 9 15:41:07 2011 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:41:07 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side Message-ID: <18667971.1307659268233.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Wow! Thanks Curt, I had no idea that it was that bad. Mike has a very serious problem and I for one am willing to help him out with this. I have plenty of good dry barn space to store many of those rusted engines thus minimizing the amount of blue tarps in his yard. Since he won't need to be buying up more walmart tarps to cover engines than he could put that money to good use on a new roof. That just might help with Ann's problem of taking a shower thus making life for Mike much more enjoyable. I shall go and see my neighbor about his 40' goose neck trailer and head out for Shelby first light. If you would like to meet up with me at his place I am sure there will be plenty of room on the trailer for a load to go to your place. Thank you for the informing us of Mike serious situation Curt. Tim -----Original Message----- >From: curt at rustyiron.com >Sent: Jun 9, 2011 2:35 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > >> Isn't there a law on how many blue tarps your allowed to have Mike? > >Tim, >There is indeed an ordinance in Shelby on the number of blue tarps allowed >on a given property. However, given that Mike is a politician/councilman >he just conveniently raises the maximum allowable number when his count of >blue tarps approaches the previous maximum. >Truth is, control of this ordinance was the primary reason for his entry >into politics. It wasn't bad enough that there is a sea of blue tarps in >the back yard, but due to his never ending devotion to engine hobby work >and neglect of house maintenance, he's had to resort to a patchwork of >blue tarps on various locations of his house roof. It wasn't so bad when >the tarps were on the back side of the house protecting the Model T and >the kitchen cabinets from drips, but when he began draping them over the >top of the roof making them visible to the rest of the neighborhood the >complaining began. Lately I've noticed that Mike is perfecting the art of >"shingling" blue tarps, allowing him to purchase the less expensive 10 x >10 Walmart tarps, yet he can cover VERY large portions of the roof with >this method. >I read in the local paper that Mike's latest city council proposal to >standardize the roof color of all Shelby homes to blue has not been met >with much enthusiasm. Most see it as his thinly disguised attempt to avoid >house work. No doubt his wife Ann is quite pleased that his roof color >proposal was dead on arrival. >And speaking of Ann, sadly she is the victim in the blue tarp saga. She >can no longer take a shower if it is raining outside, because no amount of >hot water will offset the cold rain than comes thru the roof directly over >the shower. Mike keeps promising to install a blue tarp over that area >too, but so far is neglecting her needs (poor choice of words-but >applicable). >So now you know the whole saga. Really quite sad isn't it. >Curt Holland > > > > > > > >> >> -----Original Message----- >>>From: Mike Royster >>>Sent: Jun 1, 2011 7:21 PM >>>To: The SEL email discussion list >>>Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side >>> >>>Bring a trailer full to Coolspring George, I'll help you out!!!!! >>> >>>MR >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Best, George (DS)" >>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM >>>Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side >>> >>> >>>> On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any >>>> engine buying by me for awhile. >>>> >>>> Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. >>>> >>>> Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. >>>> >>>> Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon >>>> Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle >>>> Sam >>>> wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold >>>> the >>>> car and went into the Air Force instead. >>>> >>>> Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, >>>> which >>>> was the fastest car of my youth. >>>> >>>> I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been >>>> calling >>>> my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. >>>> >>>> Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the >>>> past. >>>> >>>> This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has >>>> been modified to handle the engine. >>>> >>>> So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild >>>> my >>>> money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines >>>> and >>>> tractors. >>>> >>>> George >>>> >>>> Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? >>>> >>>> >>>> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >>>> addressee and may contain information that is privileged and >>>> confidential. >>>> If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an >>>> authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby >>>> notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly >>>> prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please >>>> notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any >>>> attachments >>>> from your system. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> Tim Christoff >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Jun 9 15:59:11 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 15:59:11 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: References: <4239021.1306983158438.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8DF4F243-2709-4A4E-A128-944A88D8EE05@rustyiron.com> On Jun 9, 2011, at 12:35 PM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote: >> Isn't there a law on how many blue tarps your allowed to have Mike? > > Tim, > There is indeed an ordinance in Shelby on the number of blue tarps allowed > on a given property. However, given that Mike is a politician/councilman > he just conveniently raises the maximum allowable number when his count of > blue tarps approaches the previous maximum. I just checked out the Casa de Royster on Google Earth. His neighbor to the east must not be a politician, but he must have one hell of an engine collection. He has only one tarp, but it's the biggest blue tarp I've ever seen. From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Jun 9 16:22:47 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:22:47 EDT Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update Message-ID: In a message dated 6/9/2011 6:34:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, listerdiesel at gmail.com writes: We leave at 5am tomorrow, will be in Holland by about 5pm local time. Have a great maiden trip Peter! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Jun 9 18:04:47 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:04:47 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: <18667971.1307659268233.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <18667971.1307659268233.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <257B3875-F76A-404D-BA55-0F7389243ECE@rustyiron.com> On Jun 9, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Tim Christoff wrote: > I have plenty of good dry barn space to store many of those rusted engines Golly, Tim. Good ol' Mike is going to have ALL his problems solved with you willing to store his engines, and me helping Ann shower. From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Jun 9 18:28:30 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 21:28:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side References: <18667971.1307659268233.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <257B3875-F76A-404D-BA55-0F7389243ECE@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: I like this thread, and even though it's my neighbor to the west with the gigantic tarp, this is very entertaining. Let's see where this goes! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > > On Jun 9, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Tim Christoff wrote: > >> I have plenty of good dry barn space to store many of those rusted >> engines > > > Golly, Tim. > Good ol' Mike is going to have ALL his problems solved with you willing to > store his engines, and me helping Ann shower. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Jun 9 22:06:39 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 22:06:39 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: References: <18667971.1307659268233.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <257B3875-F76A-404D-BA55-0F7389243ECE@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <987F083D-3A93-4181-BF5B-85599D59A1B2@rustyiron.com> On Jun 9, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Mike Royster wrote: > I like this thread, and even though it's my neighbor to the west with the > gigantic tarp, this is very entertaining. Let's see where this goes! WHAT? Your neighbor's wife also needs help in the shower? Considering the size of her tarp, we'll let Tim handle this one. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 04:16:48 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:16:48 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: <33507ED4B9D049DDAEBCD27AF8896F84@mikecomp> References: <33507ED4B9D049DDAEBCD27AF8896F84@mikecomp> Message-ID: On 10 June 2011 02:17, Mike Royster wrote: > Extremely impressive. > > MR We are about 3 hours out of Harwich, crossing the North Sea. Trailer towed fine, no big issues with handling, but we are overweight by a bit. Tracks fine behind the Discovery, only really notice the weight on hills and long inclines, but only had to drop a gear a few times. Holland should be flatter :-)) Good satellite Wi-Fi on the boat, bit slow but it's free.... Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From oldironnut at windstream.net Fri Jun 10 06:19:06 2011 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:19:06 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DF219CA.8070904@windstream.net> On 6/9/11 6:28 PM, Listerdiesel wrote: > On 15 April 2011 17:24, Listerdiesel wrote: > > Here are a few images of the beast parked outside the factory: Congrats on a beautiful job with the trailer, Peter! Enjoy! Mike From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Fri Jun 10 06:53:26 2011 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:53:26 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up In-Reply-To: <4DF219CA.8070904@windstream.net> References: <4DF219CA.8070904@windstream.net> Message-ID: G'day from saturated Montana; On our 6hp Galloway, when looking thru the flywheel spokes, they don't line up with each other. Both flywheels run fairly true and keyways and keysets line up. I'd sure hate to think I have a twisted crankshaft. Any ideas? RickinMt. From George_Best at adp.com Fri Jun 10 07:56:34 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George (DS)) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:56:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up In-Reply-To: References: <4DF219CA.8070904@windstream.net> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F57622B0A@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Several engines came from the manufacturer that way. I don't remember which ones now, but I know that on some engines that came that way. People in the know sometimes point it out to unsuspecting people and tell them they've got a twisted crankshaft as a joke. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard Strobel Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 6:53 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up G'day from saturated Montana; On our 6hp Galloway, when looking thru the flywheel spokes, they don't line up with each other. Both flywheels run fairly true and keyways and keysets line up. I'd sure hate to think I have a twisted crankshaft. Any ideas? RickinMt. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Jun 10 08:32:03 2011 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:32:03 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F57622B0A@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: Your crankshaft is definitely twisted Rick. Since its basically scrap now, I'll take it off your hands, free of charge of course. Seriously, George is right. I've seen several of the earlier makes (mostly 1910 and prior) that have misaligned spokes. I had an Otto that was way off and it was totally original. I wouldn't worry a bit if I were you. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George (DS) Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 10:57 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up Several engines came from the manufacturer that way. I don't remember which ones now, but I know that on some engines that came that way. People in the know sometimes point it out to unsuspecting people and tell them they've got a twisted crankshaft as a joke. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard Strobel Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 6:53 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up G'day from saturated Montana; On our 6hp Galloway, when looking thru the flywheel spokes, they don't line up with each other. Both flywheels run fairly true and keyways and keysets line up. I'd sure hate to think I have a twisted crankshaft. Any ideas? RickinMt. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Jun 10 09:56:18 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:56:18 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 87, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110610185327.01e60e00@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 10/06/2011, you wrote: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:51:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe Prindle Subject: Re: [SEL] Bucket List Shows For me, the best show is the one that I see the most friends at.... Joe Prindle Joe, I agree 100%. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: <[1]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> References 1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Jun 10 10:08:22 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:08:22 +0200 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110610190131.01e64d78@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 10/06/2011, you wrote: >Message: 15 >Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 22:06:39 -0700 >From: Rob Skinner >Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > > >On Jun 9, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Mike Royster wrote: > > > I like this thread, and even though it's my neighbor to the west with the > > gigantic tarp, this is very entertaining. Let's see where this goes! > > > >WHAT? Your neighbor's wife also needs help in the shower? >Considering the size of her tarp, we'll let Tim handle this one. Hi Mike, Now I'm beginning to enjoy the thread as well - I always imagined Rob (with Kelley watching over him) as being a decent, upright, clean living young citizen only interested in cycling and old iron. Just shows that you cannot believe everything you see (or read) on the Internet !! Jerry. From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Jun 10 12:05:27 2011 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:05:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up In-Reply-To: References: <4DF219CA.8070904@windstream.net> Message-ID: <20110610190526.00C679BCE@smtp.wcoil.com> Hi Rich, Not unusual for some misalignment of spokes. Just think, in this case if the spokes line up then the key ways would not if the crank were twisted. LOL. Mark At 09:53 AM 6/10/2011, you wrote: >G'day from saturated Montana; > > On our 6hp Galloway, when looking thru the flywheel spokes, they don't >line up with each other. Both flywheels run fairly true and keyways and >keysets line up. > > I'd sure hate to think I have a twisted crankshaft. > >Any ideas? > >RickinMt. > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Jun 10 12:43:01 2011 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:43:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up In-Reply-To: <20110610190526.00C679BCE@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <6080EF3F95B5405AA3F7F0A01CA2BF48@laruecounty.courthouse> You bring up and interesting idea Mark. If the spokes don't line up then we could just twist the crankshaft so they would..... Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark Shulaw Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 3:05 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up Hi Rich, Not unusual for some misalignment of spokes. Just think, in this case if the spokes line up then the key ways would not if the crank were twisted. LOL. Mark From mr at carolina.rr.com Fri Jun 10 14:59:55 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:59:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up References: <4DF219CA.8070904@windstream.net> Message-ID: <2DAC15E5D4D247B68C0E168D8518699B@mikecomp> My 6 hp Galloway is exactly the same as yours, and original. MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Strobel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 9:53 AM Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up > G'day from saturated Montana; > > On our 6hp Galloway, when looking thru the flywheel spokes, they don't > line up with each other. Both flywheels run fairly true and keyways and > keysets line up. > > I'd sure hate to think I have a twisted crankshaft. > > Any ideas? > > RickinMt. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From tchristoff at earthlink.net Fri Jun 10 15:24:45 2011 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:24:45 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side Message-ID: <25037476.1307744685303.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Who said anything about taking care of anyones wife(s). I have one already and at times thats more than I need. My only interest is in helping poor Mike out so he can afford to fix his roof. I didn't know that Mike needed help in other areas but I'm sure he can get pills for that. Tim -----Original Message----- >From: Rob Skinner >Sent: Jun 10, 2011 12:06 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > > >On Jun 9, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Mike Royster wrote: > >> I like this thread, and even though it's my neighbor to the west with the >> gigantic tarp, this is very entertaining. Let's see where this goes! > > > >WHAT? Your neighbor's wife also needs help in the shower? >Considering the size of her tarp, we'll let Tim handle this one. >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Jun 10 15:46:28 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:46:28 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up In-Reply-To: References: <4DF219CA.8070904@windstream.net> Message-ID: <7D13157F-2BD5-40E0-8A10-25C230AF171D@ncable.com.au> I'd say you have stuffed it right up Rick, best send it over to Oz, we could get away with it here and only you and I would know :-) Russell On 10/06/2011, at 11:53 PM, Richard Strobel wrote: > G'day from saturated Montana; > > On our 6hp Galloway, when looking thru the flywheel spokes, they don't > line up with each other. Both flywheels run fairly true and keyways and > keysets line up. > > I'd sure hate to think I have a twisted crankshaft. > > Any ideas? > > RickinMt. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Jun 10 15:47:46 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:47:46 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up In-Reply-To: <2DAC15E5D4D247B68C0E168D8518699B@mikecomp> References: <4DF219CA.8070904@windstream.net> <2DAC15E5D4D247B68C0E168D8518699B@mikecomp> Message-ID: Maybe I should have 2 of them! On 11/06/2011, at 7:59 AM, Mike Royster wrote: > My 6 hp Galloway is exactly the same as yours, and original. > > MR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Strobel" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 9:53 AM > Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up > > >> G'day from saturated Montana; >> >> On our 6hp Galloway, when looking thru the flywheel spokes, they don't >> line up with each other. Both flywheels run fairly true and keyways and >> keysets line up. >> >> I'd sure hate to think I have a twisted crankshaft. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> RickinMt. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 00:11:37 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 17:11:37 +1000 Subject: [SEL] The Austral Register June 2011 Message-ID: I have finally had a chance to update the register page with the latest numbers. It can be seen at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austreg/australreg0611web.htm Patrick Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Sun Jun 12 08:12:49 2011 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 09:12:49 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up In-Reply-To: <4DF219CA.8070904@windstream.net> <7D13157F-2BD5-40E0-8A10-25C230AF171D@ncable.com.au> References: <4DF219CA.8070904@windstream.net> <7D13157F-2BD5-40E0-8A10-25C230AF171D@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Many thanks to all who replied and I can rest easier now. The keyways on the cs are very shallow and I can see how something could get twisted. Best Regards, RickinMt. > From rotigel at me.com Sun Jun 12 18:32:33 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:32:33 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: CERTAINLY looking GOOD Peter! Dave On Jun 9, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Listerdiesel wrote: > On 15 April 2011 17:24, Listerdiesel wrote: > > Here are a few images of the beast parked outside the factory: > > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished1.jpg > > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished2.jpg > > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished3.jpg > > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished4.jpg > > The Ruston is loaded in the back, you can see the trolley drawbar in > the picture of the back with the drawbridge hanging open on the safety > chains. > > We leave at 5am tomorrow, will be in Holland by about 5pm local time. > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 05:32:20 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:32:20 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 13 June 2011 02:32, Dave Rotigel wrote: > CERTAINLY looking GOOD Peter! > ? ? ? ?Dave We are on the Ferry, just turning out from the dock, the ship turns 360 degrees in the sealane to head out across the North Sea. The trailer was fine, no mechanical issues, nothing broke, the Ruston ran for both days all day with 1kW of load. Saw Arnie there, had a couple of chats with him and also saw Jim, Andy and Helen. Takes us about 8 hours to get to the UK and another 2 hours driving to get home. I'll post some more stuff later in the week. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 04:44:57 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:44:57 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Stolen Engine Base Message-ID: Posted on "Fozzers Forum" Over the week end, 11/12 June,Stolen from Alexander Higgins and Sons,Lye near Stourbridge, The base of an Otto slide valve , Half Horse Power Gas Engine. The base has Crossley Brothers,Manchester cast into it and is finished in original green with red lining. The base was at these works for repair to broken flange /cross head guide. A substantial reward is offered for info leading to it's return. Contact John on 01935862245 or ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com. Have a look in your local scrap yard,please. John Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Jun 15 10:57:47 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:57:47 +0200 Subject: [SEL] "Off Topic" Stephanie update- good news Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110615195139.01a58d00@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi All my friends on the list, Many of you sent good wishes when Stephanie was involved in a bad car accident on the 20th May. Just an update for those of you who I have not contacted "Off List". She has had operations on both feet and ankles as well as having a steel plate inserted in her leg. That was two weeks ago and she has been confined to hospital since but today received the good news that she could go home. She will be in a wheelchair for at least 6 weeks but will be very happy to be home with her dogs. (She breeds White Swiss Shepherds (Berger Blanc Suisse) - formerly known as White German Shepherds) and has at least 20 of them. There is going to be a stampede when she arrives home :-) Her webpage, for anyone interested is <[1]www.top-dog.co.za/main.htm> She has bred more champions than any other breeder in South Africa and was on the way to another "Dog Show" when she had the accident. Thanks again to all who sent wishes and prayers - she will reply as soon as she is up to it. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: <[2]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> References 1. http://www.top-dog.co.za/main.htm 2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From andyglines at hotmail.com Thu Jun 16 03:46:09 2011 From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 06:46:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SIAM show In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > 2. Re: SIAM show (curt at rustyiron.com) > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:30:59 -0600 > From: curt at rustyiron.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] SIAM show > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Message-ID: > <7244f43aea2b8683fb9f40f1e988bf74.squirrel at www.rustyiron.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > Andy, > We will miss SIAM this year, as son Devin will be graduating from High > School on Saturday. Devin likes SIAM so much he even suggested skipping > his graduation! He will miss blacksmith CJ this year and the next 4, due > to college attendance, but we will be back next year. > Give our best to all and we'll be thinking of ya'll this weekend. > Curt, Missy, and Devin Holland I kept an eye out for you folks and was wondering where you were. Tell Devin congratulations from his friends at SIAM. Of course Arnie was missing as well with yet another weak excuse. We had a great although slightly wet weekend but it is always better when old friends can come. Doesn't Devin have summer break from college? If not He just needs to not take a Friday class in the spring term so that frees up a long weekend. We have to get this boy's priorities right! (grin) From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 05:35:20 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:35:20 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 14 June 2011 13:32, Listerdiesel wrote: > On 13 June 2011 02:32, Dave Rotigel wrote: >> CERTAINLY looking GOOD Peter! >> ? ? ? ?Dave Having had a few days to get organised, we can reflect on the show itself. Star of the show was the big Thomassen gas engine, on show in the open outside Delft University it took a year to restore and get running. Lots of other stuff as well, we took about 300 shots which we will get edited and up on the website as soon as we can. Work continues on the trailer, we have removed the shower and toilet components from the donor caravan, and will start work on installing them this coming week. We had a surprising amount of interest in the trailer, especially for the Europeans at the show who have restrictions on self-building such things. Neither of us had realised just how long it was, we had been all round it while building, but only when other people commented did we step back and have a look, and it IS a big trailer! :-)) Here's the last shot we took, at the Ferry Port in Hoeck Van Holland: http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerHook.jpg Thanks for everyone's kind comments and suggestions, much appreciated. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jerrye at databak.co.za Sat Jun 18 11:05:11 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:05:11 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110618200008.01a3d748@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:35:20 +0100 From: Listerdiesel Subject: Re: [SEL] Trailer Update Having had a few days to get organised, we can reflect on the show itself. Work continues on the trailer, we have removed the shower and toilet components from the donor caravan, and will start work on installing them this coming week. Peter it really looks good, well done, I'm a bit concerned about the shower etc. does this mean that you and Rita just stayed "dirty" for the duration! :-) (Just Joking!!) Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: <[1]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> References 1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 11:51:31 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:51:31 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20110618200008.01a3d748@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110618200008.01a3d748@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: On 18 June 2011 19:05, Jerry Evans wrote: > ? Peter it really looks good, well done, > ? I'm a bit concerned about the shower etc. does this mean that you and > ? Rita just stayed "dirty" for the duration! :-) (Just Joking!!) > LOL! Nuenen is one of the very rare shows that provides decent facilities for the exhibitors, including hot showers. One of the reasons behind the building of the trailer was the need for such facilities while at rallies etc. We have camped before now at other rallies/shows and had a sponge down, but it ain't the same! Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From cgandree at mchsi.com Wed Jun 22 03:34:16 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 05:34:16 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator In-Reply-To: <1512203040.1951391308738758382.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <415413544.1951481308738856447.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Hi All, I have an older Briggs & Stratton Elite 5550 watt generator which starts and runs very well. Orginally purchased for power outages but now want to use it to run the power on a RV motor home. Have been told it may be too loud at some campgrounds so am looking for a way to reduce the noise level while running it. thank you in advance, Curt Andree From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Wed Jun 22 03:54:40 2011 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:54:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator References: <415413544.1951481308738856447.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <010601cc30ca$c995b360$0301a8c0@PC179134136174> Long extension cords. You won't hear it running if its a 1/4 mile away. Where is the noise coming from? Is it exhaust noise or does the engine itself generate additional noise? A quieter muffler will help the exhaust noise. For engine noise, maybe put it into a sound insulated box and use a bit of your power to drive a fan to keep the engine cool. Third option- Buy a Honda. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; "Old eng list" Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 6:34 AM Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator > Hi All, > I have an older Briggs & Stratton Elite 5550 watt generator which starts > and runs very well. Orginally purchased for power outages but now want to > use it to run the power on a RV motor home. Have been told it may be too > loud at some campgrounds so am looking for a way to reduce the noise level > while running it. > thank you in advance, > Curt Andree > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17750) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17750) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 03:58:55 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:58:55 +1000 Subject: [SEL] OT Busy Busy Message-ID: I have been a little busy of late to pay as much attention to the engine stuff as I used to. It has been a little nuts getting our house ready for sale, then a crazy few weeks during the campaign leading up to the auction. Then looking for a new house and all the craziness that goes with that (as well as wrangling a 6 month old baby). We are on the final leg of this little voyage and move into our new home at the end of next week. Then we can unpack and get back to our lives. I will finally have a proper workshop to play with engines and even have room to keep some of them at home and still be able to move. It will be great to have some engines at home again as I have been suffering withdrawal symptoms. Hopefully I will have everything out of storage and sorted out in time for the Macksville and Sydney rallies in September. See you all there :) Patrick (& Ann and Samuel) Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From cgandree at mchsi.com Wed Jun 22 04:25:31 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:25:31 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator In-Reply-To: <010601cc30ca$c995b360$0301a8c0@PC179134136174> Message-ID: <1415064871.1954551308741931044.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Rick, Thanks, I think! Honda out of the question as to available $$$$. Yes, different muffler. Looking for a source if you know? Curt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Rowlands" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:54:40 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator Long extension cords. You won't hear it running if its a 1/4 mile away. Where is the noise coming from? Is it exhaust noise or does the engine itself generate additional noise? A quieter muffler will help the exhaust noise. For engine noise, maybe put it into a sound insulated box and use a bit of your power to drive a fan to keep the engine cool. Third option- Buy a Honda. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; "Old eng list" Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 6:34 AM Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator > Hi All, > I have an older Briggs & Stratton Elite 5550 watt generator which starts > and runs very well. Orginally purchased for power outages but now want to > use it to run the power on a RV motor home. Have been told it may be too > loud at some campgrounds so am looking for a way to reduce the noise level > while running it. > thank you in advance, > Curt Andree > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17750) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17750) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Jun 22 05:44:04 2011 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 05:44:04 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Looking into getting a new truck to replace my current 1995 F250 4x4 that has 81,000 miles, and a VERY wimpy 351 that can't pull itself against a head-wind. What will not happen: NO diesel - no way, can't afford the initial cost, can't afford the maintenance, and besides, I don't pull a heavy load often or far enough to justify. Nothing against diesel, but all things being checked into, it's just not for me. otherwise, my needs/desires/wants: extended cab (not crew cab, not standard) 4x4 Gas 6 speed auto ability to tow 20' camper, self-contained (small, but still generates wind resistance and weight) ability to tow a 20' flat bed that weighs 2,000 pounds with a 3,000 or 3,400 pound car on it, and perhaps a couple engines tossed in the bed of the truck ability to tow same flatbed with 4 or 5 1/5-3hp engines loaded on. What do you guys and gals have - keeping in mind that with all the changes in trucks lately, you can't compare even a 2005 to a 2011 - things have changed in engines, HP ratings, brakes, and capacity. For example, some of the new 1/2 ton trucks will tow 10,000 pounds, 5500 with a non-load leveling hitch. For now, due to dealers, selection, price, etc I'm concentrating on Ford and Chevrolet, with the leaning on Chevrolet due to more options, warranty, etc. Thoughts????? Thanks **(price range in the 45-47K area after discounts, rebates, etc.)** From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Jun 22 06:07:39 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:07:39 EDT Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question Message-ID: <7f63.6ab5ac73.3b33431b@aol.com> In a message dated 6/22/2011 8:57:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bill at antique-engines.com writes: I'm concentrating on Ford and Chevrolet, with the leaning on Chevrolet due to more options, warranty, etc. Bill, I think they are both good vehicles and depends on whether you are a Chevy or Ford person. I lean to the Chevy and have a 2007, extended cab, 1500 series, Z71, with lots of options. Bought it second hand when 2 years old and the young woman took it back to dealer with 20,000 miles asking the dealer to purchase it back. Said her husband did not like to work and it was either work or get rid of the truck. Truck went and I understand the husband went a short time later too. It pulls the trailer great and a very nice riding vehicle. Computer says I average 16 mpg. But it also says I get 95 mpg going down hills. I just love that! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From jlb94 at juno.com Wed Jun 22 06:24:57 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:24:57 GMT Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question Message-ID: <20110622.092457.8341.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Hi Bill, This is not to be smart - but - I have a 1972 Ford F-250 with a 1977 Cab and Front-end that's rotting away again. If I could find someone to put a newer body on that ol' 72 frame and running gear, I would never give up that ol' truck. Last year I bought a 1998 Ford E-250 Yellow Box Van (Ryder Truck with 170K on it) and, although it has more room in the box, runs good (a little lame on hills and yaws a bit) and is a smoother ride - It still don't compare to the old 1972. I don't think I would ever buy a NEW (dealer fresh) truck. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: bill at antique-engines.com To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 05:44:04 -0700 Looking into getting a new truck to replace my current 1995 F250 4x4 that has 81,000 miles, and a VERY wimpy 351 that can't pull itself against a head-wind. What will not happen: NO diesel - no way, can't afford the initial cost, can't afford the maintenance, and besides, I don't pull a heavy load often or far enough to justify. Nothing against diesel, but all things being checked into, it's just not for me. otherwise, my needs/desires/wants: extended cab (not crew cab, not standard) 4x4 Gas 6 speed auto ability to tow 20' camper, self-contained (small, but still generates wind resistance and weight) ability to tow a 20' flat bed that weighs 2,000 pounds with a 3,000 or 3,400 pound car on it, and perhaps a couple engines tossed in the bed of the truck ability to tow same flatbed with 4 or 5 1/5-3hp engines loaded on. What do you guys and gals have - keeping in mind that with all the changes in trucks lately, you can't compare even a 2005 to a 2011 - things have changed in engines, HP ratings, brakes, and capacity. For example, some of the new 1/2 ton trucks will tow 10,000 pounds, 5500 with a non-load leveling hitch. For now, due to dealers, selection, price, etc I'm concentrating on Ford and Chevrolet, with the leaning on Chevrolet due to more options, warranty, etc. Thoughts????? Thanks **(price range in the 45-47K area after discounts, rebates, etc.)** _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ 57 Year Old Mom Looks 27! Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e01ed71807993055st04vuc From jlb94 at juno.com Wed Jun 22 06:27:57 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:27:57 GMT Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator Message-ID: <20110622.092757.8341.1@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Build a big wooden box, insulate it and cover the generator with it. Most campgrounds allow you to run till around 11:00 PM. But they are an annoying lot. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Rick Rowlands" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:54:40 -0400 Long extension cords. You won't hear it running if its a 1/4 mile away. Where is the noise coming from? Is it exhaust noise or does the engine itself generate additional noise? A quieter muffler will help the exhaust noise. For engine noise, maybe put it into a sound insulated box and use a bit of your power to drive a fan to keep the engine cool. Third option- Buy a Honda. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; "Old eng list" Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 6:34 AM Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator > Hi All, > I have an older Briggs & Stratton Elite 5550 watt generator which starts > and runs very well. Orginally purchased for power outages but now want to > use it to run the power on a RV motor home. Have been told it may be too > loud at some campgrounds so am looking for a way to reduce the noise level > while running it. > thank you in advance, > Curt Andree > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17750) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17750) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ President Lowers Rates Mortgage Rates Hit 2.75%. As Seen On Good Morning America http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e01ee28eb1c232d4st03vuc From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Jun 22 06:29:51 2011 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:29:51 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question In-Reply-To: <7f63.6ab5ac73.3b33431b@aol.com> References: <7f63.6ab5ac73.3b33431b@aol.com> Message-ID: <70b21ef58d83fcad3da3436531a80a43.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> I won't get into the Chevy vs. Ford thing - until I bought this 95 F250 4x4, I had only owned Chevy and Jeep trucks. It's been an ok truck save for the 2K spent on suspension and steering and brakes trying to get a brake shake out of it, and the wimp engine. Sounds like the gal should have traded her husband for the truck! ;-) Which engines is in your truck? (again, they've changed since then, but for comparison purposes) I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle and a 6.x liter engine, 6 speed auto. I've looked at the 2500 as well, am torn, but not sure I need the 2500 as you are not the first person who has said they've hauled their classic cars or old engines with a 1500 just fine. My Ford gets 10 loaded, 12-13 unloaded if that. Push it past 60-65 and watch the gas gauge drop. > > In a message dated 6/22/2011 8:57:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > bill at antique-engines.com writes: > > I'm concentrating on Ford > and Chevrolet, with the leaning on Chevrolet due to more options, > warranty, etc. > > > > Bill, > > I think they are both good vehicles and depends on whether you are a Chevy > or Ford person. I lean to the Chevy and have a 2007, extended cab, 1500 > series, Z71, with lots of options. Bought it second hand when 2 years old > and the young woman took it back to dealer with 20,000 miles asking the > dealer to purchase it back. Said her husband did not like to work and it > was > either work or get rid of the truck. Truck went and I understand the > husband > went a short time later too. It pulls the trailer great and a very nice > riding vehicle. Computer says I average 16 mpg. But it also says I get > 95 > mpg going down hills. I just love that! > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From swilliams268 at frontier.com Wed Jun 22 06:43:18 2011 From: swilliams268 at frontier.com (Steve W.) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:43:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator In-Reply-To: <415413544.1951481308738856447.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: <415413544.1951481308738856447.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <4E01F176.2060409@frontier.com> cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > Hi All, I have an older Briggs & Stratton Elite 5550 watt generator > which starts and runs very well. Orginally purchased for power > outages but now want to use it to run the power on a RV motor home. > Have been told it may be too loud at some campgrounds so am looking > for a way to reduce the noise level while running it. thank you in > advance, Curt Andree Visit a farm supply store and grab a tractor muffler for something like an 8N. Connect it up with a section of flex tubing. If that isn't quiet enough take a 5 gallon bucket and stick the exhaust into it, then add enough water to cover the pipe 3-4 inches. -- Steve W. From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Jun 22 06:49:03 2011 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:49:03 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question In-Reply-To: <20110622.092457.8341.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110622.092457.8341.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: I understand, but last year I spent on repairs only a little bit more than payments would be on new. The mileage - 10-12 is horrible compared to new, so some of the money would be made up to an extent. Safety - Ford's better idea of rear-only anti-lock brakes is just plain stupid - and dangerous. The truck can't stop a straight line. There's a shake in it that several thousand dollars could not repair - light braking is ok, moderate to heavy she'll shake your lunch out of you. A dealer and an independent shop spent a lot of time and money, thought they had it, but it's still there. Gutless 351 - it's a pain to pull my trailer with it on the hills in Eastern Iowa. Can barely keep up 65. When I went to PA, I had trouble keeping up 50-55 with it. It's rated at what, 280 some horse, where the new are closer to 400. The rust termites have finally found it - not bad really for a 16 y.o. truck of that era. You have to look to find/see it. 81,000 miles. Need the extended cab........ and look forward to better braking systems and stability. > Hi Bill, > This is not to be smart - but - I have a 1972 Ford F-250 with a 1977 Cab > and Front-end that's rotting away again. If I could find someone to put a > newer body on that ol' 72 frame and running gear, I would never give up > that ol' truck. > Last year I bought a 1998 Ford E-250 Yellow Box Van (Ryder Truck with 170K > on it) and, although it has more room in the box, runs good (a little lame > on hills and yaws a bit) and is a smoother ride - It still don't compare > to the old 1972. > I don't think I would ever buy a NEW (dealer fresh) truck. > > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time > (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. > > > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: bill at antique-engines.com > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 05:44:04 -0700 > > Looking into getting a new truck to replace my current 1995 F250 4x4 that > has 81,000 miles, and a VERY wimpy 351 that can't pull itself against a > head-wind. > > What will not happen: > NO diesel - no way, can't afford the initial cost, can't afford the > maintenance, and besides, I don't pull a heavy load often or far enough to > justify. Nothing against diesel, but all things being checked into, it's > just not for me. > > otherwise, my needs/desires/wants: > extended cab (not crew cab, not standard) > 4x4 > Gas > 6 speed auto > ability to tow 20' camper, self-contained (small, but still generates wind > resistance and weight) > ability to tow a 20' flat bed that weighs 2,000 pounds with a 3,000 or > 3,400 pound car on it, and perhaps a couple engines tossed in the bed of > the truck > ability to tow same flatbed with 4 or 5 1/5-3hp engines loaded on. > > What do you guys and gals have - keeping in mind that with all the changes > in trucks lately, you can't compare even a 2005 to a 2011 - things have > changed in engines, HP ratings, brakes, and capacity. For example, some of > the new 1/2 ton trucks will tow 10,000 pounds, 5500 with a non-load > leveling hitch. > > For now, due to dealers, selection, price, etc I'm concentrating on Ford > and Chevrolet, with the leaning on Chevrolet due to more options, > warranty, etc. > > Thoughts????? > > Thanks > > **(price range in the 45-47K area after discounts, rebates, etc.)** > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________ > 57 Year Old Mom Looks 27! > Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e01ed71807993055st04vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jlb94 at juno.com Wed Jun 22 06:49:36 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:49:36 GMT Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question Message-ID: <20110622.094936.8341.4@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Which engines is in your truck? In the 1972 there is a 360 ci. - It gets around 13 mpg In the 1998 there is a 4.2L - It gets around 13 mpg In the 1995 Buick Park Ave. there is a 3.8L Supercharged - It gets around 13 mpg. Seems 13 is my lucky number. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: bill at antique-engines.com To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:29:51 -0700 I won't get into the Chevy vs. Ford thing - until I bought this 95 F250 4x4, I had only owned Chevy and Jeep trucks. It's been an ok truck save for the 2K spent on suspension and steering and brakes trying to get a brake shake out of it, and the wimp engine. Sounds like the gal should have traded her husband for the truck! ;-) Which engines is in your truck? (again, they've changed since then, but for comparison purposes) I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle and a 6.x liter engine, 6 speed auto. I've looked at the 2500 as well, am torn, but not sure I need the 2500 as you are not the first person who has said they've hauled their classic cars or old engines with a 1500 just fine. My Ford gets 10 loaded, 12-13 unloaded if that. Push it past 60-65 and watch the gas gauge drop. > > In a message dated 6/22/2011 8:57:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > bill at antique-engines.com writes: > > I'm concentrating on Ford > and Chevrolet, with the leaning on Chevrolet due to more options, > warranty, etc. > > > > Bill, > > I think they are both good vehicles and depends on whether you are a Chevy > or Ford person. I lean to the Chevy and have a 2007, extended cab, 1500 > series, Z71, with lots of options. Bought it second hand when 2 years old > and the young woman took it back to dealer with 20,000 miles asking the > dealer to purchase it back. Said her husband did not like to work and it > was > either work or get rid of the truck. Truck went and I understand the > husband > went a short time later too. It pulls the trailer great and a very nice > riding vehicle. Computer says I average 16 mpg. But it also says I get > 95 > mpg going down hills. I just love that! > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Official Obama Website President Obama needs your help. Join his 2012 campaign now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e01f32c23bb593fst04vuc From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Jun 22 07:03:54 2011 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:03:54 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question In-Reply-To: <20110622.094936.8341.4@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110622.094936.8341.4@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <16e4842c5a0f52a1507960dea884b74a.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Mine has the 351 - I think that's about 5.7? > Which engines is in your truck? > In the 1972 there is a 360 ci. - It gets around 13 mpg > In the 1998 there is a 4.2L - It gets around 13 mpg > In the 1995 Buick Park Ave. there is a 3.8L Supercharged - It gets around > 13 mpg. > Seems 13 is my lucky number. > > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time > (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. > > > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: bill at antique-engines.com > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:29:51 -0700 > > I won't get into the Chevy vs. Ford thing - until I bought this 95 F250 > 4x4, I had only owned Chevy and Jeep trucks. It's been an ok truck save > for the 2K spent on suspension and steering and brakes trying to get a > brake shake out of it, and the wimp engine. > > Sounds like the gal should have traded her husband for the truck! ;-) > > Which engines is in your truck? (again, they've changed since then, but > for comparison purposes) > > I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle and > a 6.x liter engine, 6 speed auto. I've looked at the 2500 as well, am > torn, but not sure I need the 2500 as you are not the first person who has > said they've hauled their classic cars or old engines with a 1500 just > fine. > > My Ford gets 10 loaded, 12-13 unloaded if that. Push it past 60-65 and > watch the gas gauge drop. > >> >> In a message dated 6/22/2011 8:57:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >> bill at antique-engines.com writes: >> >> I'm concentrating on Ford >> and Chevrolet, with the leaning on Chevrolet due to more options, >> warranty, etc. >> >> >> >> Bill, >> >> I think they are both good vehicles and depends on whether you are a >> Chevy >> or Ford person. I lean to the Chevy and have a 2007, extended cab, 1500 >> series, Z71, with lots of options. Bought it second hand when 2 years >> old >> and the young woman took it back to dealer with 20,000 miles asking the >> dealer to purchase it back. Said her husband did not like to work and >> it >> was >> either work or get rid of the truck. Truck went and I understand the >> husband >> went a short time later too. It pulls the trailer great and a very >> nice >> riding vehicle. Computer says I average 16 mpg. But it also says I >> get >> 95 >> mpg going down hills. I just love that! >> >> Tom Schmutz >> Concord, Va. >> germoamer at AOL.com >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________ > Official Obama Website > President Obama needs your help. Join his 2012 campaign now. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e01f32c23bb593fst04vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From curt at rustyiron.com Wed Jun 22 08:15:12 2011 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:15:12 -0600 Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator In-Reply-To: <1415064871.1954551308741931044.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: <1415064871.1954551308741931044.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <357765621f2d09c44fd425a93f6e2a96.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Curt, I'd go to NAPA or Sears and get the least expensive oval automotive muffler you can find. I've toned down single cylinder engines this way. Maybe you could even find a decent used one being thrown away at a local muffler shop. Curt > Rick, > Thanks, I think! > Honda out of the question as to available $$$$. > Yes, different muffler. Looking for a source if you know? > Curt > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Rowlands" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:54:40 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator > > Long extension cords. You won't hear it running if its a 1/4 mile away. > > Where is the noise coming from? Is it exhaust noise or does the engine > itself generate additional noise? A quieter muffler will help the exhaust > noise. For engine noise, maybe put it into a sound insulated box and use > a > bit of your power to drive a fan to keep the engine cool. > > Third option- Buy a Honda. > > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; "Old eng list" > > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 6:34 AM > Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator > > >> Hi All, >> I have an older Briggs & Stratton Elite 5550 watt generator which starts >> and runs very well. Orginally purchased for power outages but now want >> to >> use it to run the power on a RV motor home. Have been told it may be >> too >> loud at some campgrounds so am looking for a way to reduce the noise >> level >> while running it. >> thank you in advance, >> Curt Andree >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> >> >> ======= >> Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >> (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17750) >> http://www.pctools.com/ >> ======= > > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17750) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jbcast at charter.net Wed Jun 22 11:15:17 2011 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator Message-ID: <406734d4.e6ab0.130b890395b.Webtop.49@charter.net> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Steve W. wrote: > cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: >> Hi All, I have an older Briggs & Stratton Elite 5550 watt generator >> which starts and runs very well. Orginally purchased for power >> outages but now want to use it to run the power on a RV motor home. >> Have been told it may be too loud at some campgrounds so am looking >> for a way to reduce the noise level while running it. thank you in >> advance, Curt Andree > > Check out this company below, I think they only sell to dealers, look at the $9.95 muffler. I think anyone with a tax ID # can buy. If you house the engine in a box, duct the air inlet to fresh air, hot air will be exhausted. J.B. Castagnos http://www.smallenginedistributors.net/mufflers.html From swilliams268 at frontier.com Wed Jun 22 12:11:37 2011 From: swilliams268 at frontier.com (Steve W.) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:11:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question In-Reply-To: <16e4842c5a0f52a1507960dea884b74a.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> References: <20110622.094936.8341.4@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> <16e4842c5a0f52a1507960dea884b74a.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <4E023E69.9020202@frontier.com> bill at antique-engines.com wrote: > Mine has the 351 - I think that's about 5.7? > 4.3 = 262 4.7 = 287 5.0 = 302, 305 5.3 = 324, 327 5.7 = 350, 351 6.0 = 358, 360 6.2 = 383 6.5 = 396, 400, 402, 407 7.0 = 427, 429 7.3 = 454, 460 8.1 = 490 -- Steve W. From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Jun 22 12:33:08 2011 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:33:08 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question In-Reply-To: <4E023E69.9020202@frontier.com> References: <20110622.094936.8341.4@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> <16e4842c5a0f52a1507960dea884b74a.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> <4E023E69.9020202@frontier.com> Message-ID: <8be5b18a84452ff4fd3d14d5d6e8bbd3.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Makes sense as my Javelin is a 390 (is now more like 397), my SX/4 was a 4.2 and is now a 4.0 Now I have a better handle on it when they say a truck has a 6.0 or 6.3 etc > bill at antique-engines.com wrote: >> Mine has the 351 - I think that's about 5.7? >> > > 4.3 = 262 > 4.7 = 287 > 5.0 = 302, 305 > 5.3 = 324, 327 > 5.7 = 350, 351 > 6.0 = 358, 360 > 6.2 = 383 > 6.5 = 396, 400, 402, 407 > 7.0 = 427, 429 > 7.3 = 454, 460 > 8.1 = 490 > > > -- > Steve W. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From obise at moscow.com Wed Jun 22 12:45:51 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:45:51 -0700 Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator In-Reply-To: <415413544.1951481308738856447.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: <1512203040.1951391308738758382.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> <415413544.1951481308738856447.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <3B4DD984755E44A1902863E8AFA1F105@CathyComp> -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of cgandree at mchsi.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 3:34 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; Old eng list Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator Hi All, I have an older Briggs & Stratton Elite 5550 watt generator which starts and runs very well. Orginally purchased for power outages but now want to use it to run the power on a RV motor home. Have been told it may be too loud at some campgrounds so am looking for a way to reduce the noise level while running it. thank you in advance, Curt Andree _______________________________________________ Where will the gen set be while you are running it? Out in the open? In a cargo compartment? If the latter, try lining the enclosure with glass fiber insulation, fuzzy side facing the gen set. You may want to ensure it stays in place by securing it with chicken wire, or similar. I had to do this to muffle the furnace in a rental house. It reduced the noise from an almost-unbearable roar to a barely noticeable background noise. As for exhaust noise, experiment with oversize mufflers, series, parallel, whatever. I understand about the cost of a new unit being a bit too much; but, if you can afford a Honda 2000, or similar, it would be the way to go. They can be paralleled to run A/C units; however, our 2000 can pull the smallish A/C in our RV, providing we don't have the unit idling in "Eco Mode" when we turn it on. Good luck. Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Jun 22 13:02:16 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:02:16 EDT Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question Message-ID: <3f04c.62d18669.3b33a448@aol.com> In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bill at antique-engines.com writes: I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle and a 6.x liter engine I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing button on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when engaged. I never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy load. If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want it to shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The transmissions are made to pull! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Jun 22 14:53:37 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:53:37 -0700 Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator In-Reply-To: <357765621f2d09c44fd425a93f6e2a96.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> References: <1415064871.1954551308741931044.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> <357765621f2d09c44fd425a93f6e2a96.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <6D494233-D17B-47B8-A560-F41FD82F08E0@rustyiron.com> On Jun 22, 2011, at 8:15 AM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote: > Curt, > I'd go to NAPA or Sears and get the least expensive oval automotive > muffler you can find. I've toned down single cylinder engines this way. > Maybe you could even find a decent used one being thrown away at a local > muffler shop. > Curt Every time I hear one of those screaming lawnmower engines polluting the serenity of the wilderness, it crosses my mind that the thing could be quieted with a single round from my Glock 20. From bill at antique-engines.com Thu Jun 23 10:46:50 2011 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:46:50 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question In-Reply-To: <3f04c.62d18669.3b33a448@aol.com> References: <3f04c.62d18669.3b33a448@aol.com> Message-ID: <08583c27f99a453a2fb49b3ea830e86a.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Thanks to all who replied. From what I'm seeing and hearing, a 1/2 ton truck with the right engine and the newer 6 sp automatic, about a 3.7x ratio or so should pull a trailer load of engines, or the trailer with car loaded on. (5000-5500 pounds typical) Bill > In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > bill at antique-engines.com writes: > > I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle and > a 6.x liter engine > > > I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing button > on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when engaged. > I > never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy load. > If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want it > to > shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The > transmissions are made to pull! > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Thu Jun 23 11:09:23 2011 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (=?utf-8?B?c2x1Z2dvNTRAaG90bWFpbC5jb20=?=) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 12:09:23 -0600 Subject: [SEL] =?utf-8?q?Quieting_a_utility_generator?= Message-ID: I'm with Rob on this one. I have never seen an effective effort, though I have seen a lot of tries. I have spent more of the last five years in campgrounds than not. A big (or even small) utility generator in a campground will garner a lot of hostility. Bruce Younger Back oon my mountain... Sweet, sweet air From jlb94 at juno.com Thu Jun 23 11:08:42 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:08:42 GMT Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question Message-ID: <20110623.140842.20490.1@webmail08.vgs.untd.com> I won't get into the Ford v/s Chevy thing - but - If I EVER buy another GM product, I hope GOD strikes me dead ! Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: bill at antique-engines.com To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:46:50 -0700 Thanks to all who replied. From what I'm seeing and hearing, a 1/2 ton truck with the right engine and the newer 6 sp automatic, about a 3.7x ratio or so should pull a trailer load of engines, or the trailer with car loaded on. (5000-5500 pounds typical) Bill > In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > bill at antique-engines.com writes: > > I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle and > a 6.x liter engine > > > I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing button > on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when engaged. > I > never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy load. > If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want it > to > shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The > transmissions are made to pull! > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0381863d795ac62st06vuc From amkimmell at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 11:30:18 2011 From: amkimmell at gmail.com (Tony Kimmell) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:30:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator Message-ID: "sluggo54 at hotmail.com" wrote: >I'm with Rob on this one. I have never seen an effective effort, though I have seen a lot of tries. I have spent more of the last five years in campgrounds than not. A big (or even small) utility generator in a campground will garner a lot of hostility. > > > >Bruce Younger >Back oon my mountain... >Sweet, sweet air >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jbcast at charter.net Thu Jun 23 12:13:14 2011 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:13:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator Message-ID: <88e5fdd.f3ab5.130bdeba361.Webtop.47@charter.net> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:09 PM, sluggo54 at hotmail.com wrote: > I'm with Rob on this one. I have never seen an effective effort, > though I have seen a lot of tries. I have spent more of the last five > years in campgrounds than not. A big (or even small) utility > generator in a campground will garner a lot of hostility. > > > > Bruce Younger I find 3600 rpm machines more than twice as irritating as 1800 rpm generators. J.B. Castagnos From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Thu Jun 23 13:06:18 2011 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 16:06:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator References: <88e5fdd.f3ab5.130bdeba361.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: <000601cc31e1$045b32b0$0201a8c0@PC179134136174> This is the stationary engine list. Why not use a stationary engine to flat belt drive your generator? Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator > > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:09 PM, sluggo54 at hotmail.com wrote: > >> I'm with Rob on this one. I have never seen an effective effort, >> though I have seen a lot of tries. I have spent more of the last five >> years in campgrounds than not. A big (or even small) utility >> generator in a campground will garner a lot of hostility. >> >> >> >> Bruce Younger > > I find 3600 rpm machines more than twice as irritating as 1800 rpm > generators. > J.B. Castagnos > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17750) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17780) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Jun 23 13:20:24 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:20:24 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator In-Reply-To: <88e5fdd.f3ab5.130bdeba361.Webtop.47@charter.net> References: <88e5fdd.f3ab5.130bdeba361.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: <691E85FF-048E-49E4-8738-DD078400C4DF@rustyiron.com> On Jun 23, 2011, at 12:13 PM, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > I find 3600 rpm machines more than twice as irritating as 1800 rpm > generators. That's how I feel about my bench grinders. From marinesurveys at msn.com Thu Jun 23 14:12:46 2011 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 17:12:46 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question In-Reply-To: <20110623.140842.20490.1@webmail08.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110623.140842.20490.1@webmail08.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Amen, brother Betz I love my 2001 F-250 with the 7.3 & I get 23 MPG on the road 18 pulling a trailer Best Regards Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: jlb94 at juno.com > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:08:42 +0000 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > > I won't get into the Ford v/s Chevy thing - but - If I EVER buy another GM product, I hope GOD strikes me dead ! > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time > (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. > > > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: bill at antique-engines.com > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:46:50 -0700 > > > > Thanks to all who replied. From what I'm seeing and hearing, a 1/2 ton > truck with the right engine and the newer 6 sp automatic, about a 3.7x > ratio or so should pull a trailer load of engines, or the trailer with car > loaded on. (5000-5500 pounds typical) > > > Bill > > > > In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > bill at antique-engines.com writes: > > > > I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle and > > a 6.x liter engine > > > > > > I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing button > > on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when engaged. > > I > > never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy load. > > If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want it > > to > > shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The > > transmissions are made to pull! > > > > Tom Schmutz > > Concord, Va. > > germoamer at AOL.com > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon™ Official Site > 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0381863d795ac62st06vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From marinesurveys at msn.com Thu Jun 23 14:16:05 2011 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 17:16:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator In-Reply-To: <88e5fdd.f3ab5.130bdeba361.Webtop.47@charter.net> References: <88e5fdd.f3ab5.130bdeba361.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: The answer to a noisy gen-set, is a propane frig, candles or kerosene lights Best Regards Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:13:14 -0400 > From: jbcast at charter.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator > > > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:09 PM, sluggo54 at hotmail.com wrote: > > > I'm with Rob on this one. I have never seen an effective effort, > > though I have seen a lot of tries. I have spent more of the last five > > years in campgrounds than not. A big (or even small) utility > > generator in a campground will garner a lot of hostility. > > > > > > > > Bruce Younger > > I find 3600 rpm machines more than twice as irritating as 1800 rpm > generators. > J.B. Castagnos > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rfinksr at verizon.net Thu Jun 23 15:35:13 2011 From: rfinksr at verizon.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:35:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question References: <20110623.140842.20490.1@webmail08.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <209D9614BE394AD0885C57FA1346F6B5@computer> Joe just get a new ford and you will change your mind. I have not heard anything good about them in last 3 years. R Fink ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >I won't get into the Ford v/s Chevy thing - but - If I EVER buy another GM >product, I hope GOD strikes me dead ! > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time > (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. > > > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: bill at antique-engines.com > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:46:50 -0700 > > > > Thanks to all who replied. From what I'm seeing and hearing, a 1/2 ton > truck with the right engine and the newer 6 sp automatic, about a 3.7x > ratio or so should pull a trailer load of engines, or the trailer with car > loaded on. (5000-5500 pounds typical) > > > Bill > > >> In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >> bill at antique-engines.com writes: >> >> I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle >> and >> a 6.x liter engine >> >> >> I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing >> button >> on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when engaged. >> I >> never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy load. >> If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want it >> to >> shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The >> transmissions are made to pull! >> >> Tom Schmutz >> Concord, Va. >> germoamer at AOL.com >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon™ Official Site > 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0381863d795ac62st06vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From solarrog at pacbell.net Thu Jun 23 15:51:37 2011 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:51:37 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question In-Reply-To: <209D9614BE394AD0885C57FA1346F6B5@computer> References: <20110623.140842.20490.1@webmail08.vgs.untd.com> <209D9614BE394AD0885C57FA1346F6B5@computer> Message-ID: I have always had good luck with ford's. Now you have heard something good about them. Truth is I have all three Chevy, Ford, and Dodge Roger DiRuscio 510-226-2414 office R.E. Realty Experts 41051 Mission Blvd Fremont, Ca. 94539. NABPOP MEMBER Broker Associate # 615513 510-676-3122 cell 510-623-6979 fax REO-PRO, RDC-PRO, Equator, Resnet, & Equi-trak certified. GRI, RSD. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Fink Sr" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > > Joe just get a new ford and you will change your mind. I have not heard > anything good about them in last 3 years. > R Fink > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:08 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > > >>I won't get into the Ford v/s Chevy thing - but - If I EVER buy another >>GM >>product, I hope GOD strikes me dead ! >> >> >> Joe "Pip" Betz said that. >> jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz >> ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz >> \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time >> (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: bill at antique-engines.com >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:46:50 -0700 >> >> >> >> Thanks to all who replied. From what I'm seeing and hearing, a 1/2 ton >> truck with the right engine and the newer 6 sp automatic, about a 3.7x >> ratio or so should pull a trailer load of engines, or the trailer with >> car >> loaded on. (5000-5500 pounds typical) >> >> >> Bill >> >> >>> In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >>> bill at antique-engines.com writes: >>> >>> I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle >>> and >>> a 6.x liter engine >>> >>> >>> I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing >>> button >>> on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when >>> engaged. >>> I >>> never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy >>> load. >>> If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want >>> it >>> to >>> shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The >>> transmissions are made to pull! >>> >>> Tom Schmutz >>> Concord, Va. >>> germoamer at AOL.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Groupon™ Official Site >> 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0381863d795ac62st06vuc >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From amkimmell at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 16:05:33 2011 From: amkimmell at gmail.com (Tony Kimmell) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:05:33 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question Message-ID: They all have their good and bad points. I've had all three and have loved and hated things about each. Personally I don't think anything made in the last decade has been worth a shit. That's just my humble opinion though... -Tony Roger DiRuscio wrote: >I have always had good luck with ford's. Now you have heard something good >about them. >Truth is I have all three Chevy, Ford, and Dodge > >Roger DiRuscio 510-226-2414 office >R.E. Realty Experts 41051 Mission Blvd >Fremont, Ca. 94539. NABPOP MEMBER >Broker Associate # 615513 >510-676-3122 cell 510-623-6979 fax >REO-PRO, RDC-PRO, Equator, Resnet, >& Equi-trak certified. GRI, RSD. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Richard Fink Sr" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 3:35 PM >Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > > >> >> Joe just get a new ford and you will change your mind. I have not heard >> anything good about them in last 3 years. >> R Fink >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >> >> >>>I won't get into the Ford v/s Chevy thing - but - If I EVER buy another >>>GM >>>product, I hope GOD strikes me dead ! >>> >>> >>> Joe "Pip" Betz said that. >>> jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz >>> ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz >>> \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time >>> (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Original Message ---------- >>> From: bill at antique-engines.com >>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:46:50 -0700 >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks to all who replied. From what I'm seeing and hearing, a 1/2 ton >>> truck with the right engine and the newer 6 sp automatic, about a 3.7x >>> ratio or so should pull a trailer load of engines, or the trailer with >>> car >>> loaded on. (5000-5500 pounds typical) >>> >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>>> In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >>>> bill at antique-engines.com writes: >>>> >>>> I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle >>>> and >>>> a 6.x liter engine >>>> >>>> >>>> I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing >>>> button >>>> on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when >>>> engaged. >>>> I >>>> never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy >>>> load. >>>> If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want >>>> it >>>> to >>>> shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The >>>> transmissions are made to pull! >>>> >>>> Tom Schmutz >>>> Concord, Va. >>>> germoamer at AOL.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Groupon™ Official Site >>> 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! >>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0381863d795ac62st06vuc >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jbcast at charter.net Thu Jun 23 16:26:10 2011 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:26:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question Message-ID: <485d984d.f6b43.130bed33354.Webtop.47@charter.net> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Tony Kimmell wrote: > They all have their good and bad points. I've had all three and have > loved and hated things about each. Personally I don't think anything > made in the last decade has been worth a shit. That's just my humble > opinion though... > > -Tony > The Ford 6.0 Diesel was trouble, we had two of them fail on one trip, the first one wouldn't start in Alabama, dealer said it would take a week to fix it, borrowed a second one from a friend, blew a head gasket on the way home. Picked up the first one at the dealer, wouldn't start the next morning, had to borrow a Dodge to go get the trailer. The year before the no start 6.0 blew a turbo hose off in the mountains, reinstalled it blew off again. Made it to a dealer in NY, said he couldn't repair it for 4 days, there wa a recall with new hoses and clamps. I wrapped the silicon hose with a piece of sand paper and placed the clamp over it, gave it enough bite to make the trip. I looked up the recall when I got home, gave .6 of an hour to repair, 36 minutes. J.B. Castagnos From amkimmell at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 16:55:17 2011 From: amkimmell at gmail.com (Tony Kimmell) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:55:17 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question Message-ID: Anytime they try to improve on something that has worked fine for years,i am automatically leery. If I were buying a diesel pickup truck, I would not consider ANYTHING other than a Cummins. Medium duty engine vs light duty. Simple logic. -Tony jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > > >On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Tony Kimmell wrote: > >> They all have their good and bad points. I've had all three and have >> loved and hated things about each. Personally I don't think anything >> made in the last decade has been worth a shit. That's just my humble >> opinion though... >> >> -Tony >> > >The Ford 6.0 Diesel was trouble, we had two of them fail on one trip, >the first one wouldn't start in Alabama, dealer said it would take a >week to fix it, borrowed a second one from a friend, blew a head gasket >on the way home. Picked up the first one at the dealer, wouldn't start >the next morning, had to borrow a Dodge to go get the trailer. The year >before the no start 6.0 blew a turbo hose off in the mountains, >reinstalled it blew off again. Made it to a dealer in NY, said he >couldn't repair it for 4 days, there wa a recall with new hoses and >clamps. I wrapped the silicon hose with a piece of sand paper and placed >the clamp over it, gave it enough bite to make the trip. I looked up >the recall when I got home, gave .6 of an hour to repair, 36 minutes. >J.B. Castagnos >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From marinesurveys at msn.com Fri Jun 24 01:04:40 2011 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 04:04:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator In-Reply-To: <88e5fdd.f3ab5.130bdeba361.Webtop.47@charter.net> References: <88e5fdd.f3ab5.130bdeba361.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: The answer to a noisy gen-set, is a propane frig, candles or kerosene lights Best Regards Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:13:14 -0400 > From: jbcast at charter.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator > > > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:09 PM, sluggo54 at hotmail.com wrote: > > > I'm with Rob on this one. I have never seen an effective effort, > > though I have seen a lot of tries. I have spent more of the last five > > years in campgrounds than not. A big (or even small) utility > > generator in a campground will garner a lot of hostility. > > > > > > > > Bruce Younger > > I find 3600 rpm machines more than twice as irritating as 1800 rpm > generators. > J.B. Castagnos > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rfinksr at verizon.net Fri Jun 24 03:24:47 2011 From: rfinksr at verizon.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 06:24:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question References: <20110623.140842.20490.1@webmail08.vgs.untd.com> <209D9614BE394AD0885C57FA1346F6B5@computer> Message-ID: Right you are Rodger. I am not a newer truck owner. My old stand by a 83 F350 gave up the goast last fall. I now have a 91 f250 4x4 and am putting together a 94 F350 4x4 diesel hope to have it done for Christmas of 2012. lol R Fink ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger DiRuscio" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >I have always had good luck with ford's. Now you have heard something good > about them. > Truth is I have all three Chevy, Ford, and Dodge > > Roger DiRuscio 510-226-2414 office > R.E. Realty Experts 41051 Mission Blvd > Fremont, Ca. 94539. NABPOP MEMBER > Broker Associate # 615513 > 510-676-3122 cell 510-623-6979 fax > REO-PRO, RDC-PRO, Equator, Resnet, > & Equi-trak certified. GRI, RSD. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Fink Sr" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 3:35 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > > >> >> Joe just get a new ford and you will change your mind. I have not heard >> anything good about them in last 3 years. >> R Fink >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >> >> >>>I won't get into the Ford v/s Chevy thing - but - If I EVER buy another >>>GM >>>product, I hope GOD strikes me dead ! >>> >>> >>> Joe "Pip" Betz said that. >>> jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz >>> ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz >>> \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time >>> (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Original Message ---------- >>> From: bill at antique-engines.com >>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:46:50 -0700 >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks to all who replied. From what I'm seeing and hearing, a 1/2 ton >>> truck with the right engine and the newer 6 sp automatic, about a 3.7x >>> ratio or so should pull a trailer load of engines, or the trailer with >>> car >>> loaded on. (5000-5500 pounds typical) >>> >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>>> In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >>>> bill at antique-engines.com writes: >>>> >>>> I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle >>>> and >>>> a 6.x liter engine >>>> >>>> >>>> I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing >>>> button >>>> on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when >>>> engaged. >>>> I >>>> never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy >>>> load. >>>> If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want >>>> it >>>> to >>>> shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The >>>> transmissions are made to pull! >>>> >>>> Tom Schmutz >>>> Concord, Va. >>>> germoamer at AOL.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Groupon™ Official Site >>> 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! >>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0381863d795ac62st06vuc >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rfinksr at verizon.net Fri Jun 24 03:28:05 2011 From: rfinksr at verizon.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 06:28:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question References: Message-ID: Boy Tony i must agree with that. All the trucks that were trucks now are cars with a 5 foot box in the back.and to make it worse they are new and improved. R Fink ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Kimmell" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > They all have their good and bad points. I've had all three and have > loved and hated things about each. Personally I don't think anything made > in the last decade has been worth a shit. That's just my humble opinion > though... > > -Tony > > Roger DiRuscio wrote: > >>I have always had good luck with ford's. Now you have heard something good >>about them. >>Truth is I have all three Chevy, Ford, and Dodge >> >>Roger DiRuscio 510-226-2414 office >>R.E. Realty Experts 41051 Mission Blvd >>Fremont, Ca. 94539. NABPOP MEMBER >>Broker Associate # 615513 >>510-676-3122 cell 510-623-6979 fax >>REO-PRO, RDC-PRO, Equator, Resnet, >>& Equi-trak certified. GRI, RSD. >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Richard Fink Sr" >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 3:35 PM >>Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >> >> >>> >>> Joe just get a new ford and you will change your mind. I have not heard >>> anything good about them in last 3 years. >>> R Fink >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: >>> To: >>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:08 PM >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >>> >>> >>>>I won't get into the Ford v/s Chevy thing - but - If I EVER buy another >>>>GM >>>>product, I hope GOD strikes me dead ! >>>> >>>> >>>> Joe "Pip" Betz said that. >>>> jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz >>>> ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz >>>> \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time >>>> (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Original Message ---------- >>>> From: bill at antique-engines.com >>>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:46:50 -0700 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks to all who replied. From what I'm seeing and hearing, a 1/2 ton >>>> truck with the right engine and the newer 6 sp automatic, about a 3.7x >>>> ratio or so should pull a trailer load of engines, or the trailer with >>>> car >>>> loaded on. (5000-5500 pounds typical) >>>> >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> >>>> >>>>> In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >>>>> bill at antique-engines.com writes: >>>>> >>>>> I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle >>>>> and >>>>> a 6.x liter engine >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing >>>>> button >>>>> on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when >>>>> engaged. >>>>> I >>>>> never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy >>>>> load. >>>>> If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want >>>>> it >>>>> to >>>>> shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The >>>>> transmissions are made to pull! >>>>> >>>>> Tom Schmutz >>>>> Concord, Va. >>>>> germoamer at AOL.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SEL mailing list >>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> Groupon™ Official Site >>>> 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! >>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0381863d795ac62st06vuc >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From wboldrusty70 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 14:23:43 2011 From: wboldrusty70 at gmail.com (William Burg) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 07:23:43 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator In-Reply-To: References: <88e5fdd.f3ab5.130bdeba361.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: But how do I run my television? Willie. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:04 PM, frank skinner wrote: > > > > The answer to a noisy gen-set, is a propane frig, candles or kerosene > lights > > Best Regards > > Franklin S. Skinner > Marine Surveyor & Consultant > 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 > 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West > PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:13:14 -0400 > > From: jbcast at charter.net > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:09 PM, sluggo54 at hotmail.com wrote: > > > > > I'm with Rob on this one. I have never seen an effective effort, > > > though I have seen a lot of tries. I have spent more of the last five > > > years in campgrounds than not. A big (or even small) utility > > > generator in a campground will garner a lot of hostility. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce Younger > > > > I find 3600 rpm machines more than twice as irritating as 1800 rpm > > generators. > > J.B. Castagnos > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jlb94 at juno.com Sat Jun 25 18:59:11 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 01:59:11 GMT Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question Message-ID: <20110625.215911.24023.2@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> I'm sure you're right, Rich. I don't believe I will ever buy a new truck. The last "new" truck I bought was in 1972. I ordered it with "No Power Options" - No power steering - power windows - Brakes - nothing power. And - I would do it again if I were to buy a new truck. But, probably wouldn't be able to. On the subject of trucks - - - I was coming home tonight from Moundsville, WV using I-70. Coming East, out of WV, there is this long hill with a truck lane to the right. I was in that lane and hit a terribly deep pothole. It got me swearing like a drunk sailor. Not bad enough, I hit another as I passed Cabellas' entrance. Then - - - I smelled burning clutch? - Transmission?. Then my steering started getting stiff. Oh no ! It was ME BURNING !!! I stopped to check, opened the hood and there was power steering fluid ALL OVER the engine compartment !!! Further exam revealed a broken Power Steering Cooler just behind the grill. I can only guess that the slam of the pothole on the steering, caused enough force to break this little radiator. If anyone travels I-70 - Be Aware ! Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Richard Fink Sr" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:35:13 -0400 Joe just get a new ford and you will change your mind. I have not heard anything good about them in last 3 years. R Fink ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >I won't get into the Ford v/s Chevy thing - but - If I EVER buy another GM >product, I hope GOD strikes me dead ! > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time > (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. > > > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: bill at antique-engines.com > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:46:50 -0700 > > > > Thanks to all who replied. From what I'm seeing and hearing, a 1/2 ton > truck with the right engine and the newer 6 sp automatic, about a 3.7x > ratio or so should pull a trailer load of engines, or the trailer with car > loaded on. (5000-5500 pounds typical) > > > Bill > > >> In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >> bill at antique-engines.com writes: >> >> I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle >> and >> a 6.x liter engine >> >> >> I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing >> button >> on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when engaged. >> I >> never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy load. >> If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want it >> to >> shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The >> transmissions are made to pull! >> >> Tom Schmutz >> Concord, Va. >> germoamer at AOL.com >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon™ Official Site > 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0381863d795ac62st06vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jlb94 at juno.com Sat Jun 25 19:01:25 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:01:25 GMT Subject: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator Message-ID: <20110625.220125.24023.3@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> I find 3600 rpm machines more than twice as irritating as 1800 rpm generators. = = = = = = = = = How about those "oiless air compressors" ? They have to be the most annoying thing ever. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Rob Skinner To: The SEL email discussion list Cc: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:20:24 -0700 On Jun 23, 2011, at 12:13 PM, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > I find 3600 rpm machines more than twice as irritating as 1800 rpm > generators. That's how I feel about my bench grinders. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e069345500447bb09st01vuc From plowe at exemail.com.au Sat Jun 25 23:32:14 2011 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 16:32:14 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Belliss & Morcom and Parker Steam Engines Message-ID: <811E1920E75F4396BE294B531D9E9A80@peterlowe> Hi Guys Are there any steam museums in Oz, UK or USA that have Belliss & Morcom and Parker steam engines on display. I have a number of books and drawings from Harwood Sugar Mill that were going to be thrown out, I have had these for many years but they are of no real use to me. I thought about giving it to one of the small museums in Brisbane until I saw all their literature piled into an old wardrobe full of silver fish. I thought about selling them on Ebay, but a generous streak appeared in my nature today and I would like them to go to a good home that will have a use for them and look after them. SO, those who are genuinely interested, (not just those literature bowerbirds (if you want to know what a bowerbird is, GOOGLE it ;-))) and would like them, contact me OFF LIST that means you click here on my email address if you do not know how to reply to me OFF LIST. plowe at exemail.com.au replies to the LISTS will not be answered. I also have some photos of the various book covers. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines From marinesurveys at msn.com Sat Jun 25 23:48:24 2011 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:48:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator In-Reply-To: <20110625.220125.24023.3@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110625.220125.24023.3@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: And the worst part of the "oiless air compressors" , at least what the Devilbitch guy told me was the service life of the piston, teflon ring, and cylinder is 75 hours. Best Regards Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: jlb94 at juno.com > Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:01:25 +0000 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator > > I find 3600 rpm machines more than twice as irritating as 1800 rpm > generators. > = = = = = = = = = > How about those "oiless air compressors" ? They have to be the most annoying thing ever. > > > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time > (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. > > > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Rob Skinner > To: The SEL email discussion list > Cc: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:20:24 -0700 > > On Jun 23, 2011, at 12:13 PM, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > I find 3600 rpm machines more than twice as irritating as 1800 rpm > > generators. > > That's how I feel about my bench grinders. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon™ Official Site > 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e069345500447bb09st01vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Sun Jun 26 04:48:37 2011 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:48:37 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Items for sale Message-ID: <7F5D7FBB4BBA426B80DF8E58C43C237F@PeterPC> Hi guys More for our local Aussies, I have some gear for sale and more to come. http://shop.ebay.com.au/oz-engines/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Australia From jneth3 at mac.com Sun Jun 26 12:44:49 2011 From: jneth3 at mac.com (John Neth) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 15:44:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question In-Reply-To: <20110625.215911.24023.2@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110625.215911.24023.2@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <95CFF34D-9CC9-443B-91ED-0670387C1FE4@mac.com> To Tom Tow switch helps in hilly areas, not so much for pulling but shifting between gears. In upper east Tennessee the hills and 35 to 45 mph speeds have the truck shifting all the time. Just replaced the transmission in my dads 1992 F150. He was not gentle with it and the shifting klunked when it down shifted. Highway I use the overdrive. 2002 Suburban has 240000 on it and same trans. Lot of heavy pulling but at highway speeds , little shifting. Just my experience. If I lived in flat land would never shift into tow/haul. John Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2011, at 9:59 PM, "jlb94 at juno.com" wrote: > I'm sure you're right, Rich. > I don't believe I will ever buy a new truck. > The last "new" truck I bought was in 1972. I ordered it with "No Power Options" - No power steering - power windows - Brakes - nothing power. And - I would do it again if I were to buy a new truck. But, probably wouldn't be able to. > On the subject of trucks - - - I was coming home tonight from Moundsville, WV using I-70. > Coming East, out of WV, there is this long hill with a truck lane to the right. I was in that lane and hit a terribly deep pothole. It got me swearing like a drunk sailor. Not bad enough, I hit another as I passed Cabellas' entrance. Then - - - I smelled burning clutch? - Transmission?. Then my steering started getting stiff. Oh no ! It was ME BURNING !!! I stopped to check, opened the hood and there was power steering fluid ALL OVER the engine compartment !!! > Further exam revealed a broken Power Steering Cooler just behind the grill. I can only guess that the slam of the pothole on the steering, caused enough force to break this little radiator. > If anyone travels I-70 - Be Aware ! > > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time > (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. > > > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: "Richard Fink Sr" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:35:13 -0400 > > > > Joe just get a new ford and you will change your mind. I have not heard > anything good about them in last 3 years. > R Fink > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:08 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > > >> I won't get into the Ford v/s Chevy thing - but - If I EVER buy another GM >> product, I hope GOD strikes me dead ! >> >> >> Joe "Pip" Betz said that. >> jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz >> ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz >> \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time >> (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: bill at antique-engines.com >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:46:50 -0700 >> >> >> >> Thanks to all who replied. From what I'm seeing and hearing, a 1/2 ton >> truck with the right engine and the newer 6 sp automatic, about a 3.7x >> ratio or so should pull a trailer load of engines, or the trailer with car >> loaded on. (5000-5500 pounds typical) >> >> >> Bill >> >> >>> In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >>> bill at antique-engines.com writes: >>> >>> I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle >>> and >>> a 6.x liter engine >>> >>> >>> I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing >>> button >>> on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when engaged. >>> I >>> never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy load. >>> If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want it >>> to >>> shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The >>> transmissions are made to pull! >>> >>> Tom Schmutz >>> Concord, Va. >>> germoamer at AOL.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Groupon™ Official Site >> 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0381863d795ac62st06vuc >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 13:22:54 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:22:54 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2011 Show Pictures Message-ID: Sorry we are bit late with these, but had to sort out captions and check serial numbers and ratings: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2011/Nuenen2011Menu1.htm or: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2011/Nuenen2011Menu1.htm There are 204 pictures with 7 menu pages, they are all interlinked at the bottom of each menu page as usual, but there is NO main menu link yet, I'll get that done in the week. Let me know of any errors or omissions please. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 23:40:41 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:40:41 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2011 Show Pictures In-Reply-To: <2B96011DE62447EA94464FFCD5A1144B@CathyComp> References: <2B96011DE62447EA94464FFCD5A1144B@CathyComp> Message-ID: On 27 June 2011 00:36, Orrin B Iseminger wrote: > Outstanding, Peter! ?Excellent photography. ?Thank you for posting your > travelogue and photographs. ?They were the next best thing to being there. > > I encountered a couple of 404 Not Found links on the middle of page 4. > > Best regards, > > Orrin Thanks, Orrin, looks like Oldengine had some missing pages, but all corrected now. It's always worth checking the mirror sire at stationary-engine.co.uk as they both should carry the same information. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue Jun 28 07:41:12 2011 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:41:12 +0100 Subject: [SEL] 1000 Engine Rally 2011 Photo,s Message-ID: <54CD3207DB2243A5B15A73326A31A754@BTDAVEPC> I didn't have the time to record the details but here is about 100 pictures of the engines that interested me. Saturday was cloudy with showers but Sunday was roasting! See http://good-times.webshots.com/album/580393198ZtwNta Dave Croft http://oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Jun 28 08:00:10 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:00:10 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 1000 Engine Rally 2011 Photo,s In-Reply-To: <54CD3207DB2243A5B15A73326A31A754@BTDAVEPC> References: <54CD3207DB2243A5B15A73326A31A754@BTDAVEPC> Message-ID: <6ab9b4872468997d0466ae83e100f925.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Nice job Dave. Thanks!! On Tue, June 28, 2011 10:41 am, Dave Croft wrote: > I didn't have the time to record the details but here is about 100 pictures of the > engines that interested me. > Saturday was cloudy with showers but Sunday was roasting! > See http://good-times.webshots.com/album/580393198ZtwNta From oldironnut at windstream.net Tue Jun 28 09:27:11 2011 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:27:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 1000 Engine Rally 2011 Photo,s In-Reply-To: <54CD3207DB2243A5B15A73326A31A754@BTDAVEPC> References: <54CD3207DB2243A5B15A73326A31A754@BTDAVEPC> Message-ID: <7F939389-34B9-4A78-A6EA-FADE0725826B@windstream.net> Thanks, Dave, great photos! I especially liked the engine in SAM_0229 (page 8)... what's the brand name and HP for that critter? Thanks, Mike On Jun 28, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Dave Croft wrote: > I didn't have the time to record the details but here is about 100 pictures of the engines that interested me. > Saturday was cloudy with showers but Sunday was roasting! > See http://good-times.webshots.com/album/580393198ZtwNta > Dave Croft > http://oldengine.org/members/croft/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ______________________ Michael Tucker oldironnut at windstream.net Versailles, Kentucky, USA ______________________ From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue Jun 28 14:19:27 2011 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:19:27 +0100 Subject: [SEL] 1000 Engine Rally 2011 Photo,s In-Reply-To: <7F939389-34B9-4A78-A6EA-FADE0725826B@windstream.net> References: <54CD3207DB2243A5B15A73326A31A754@BTDAVEPC> <7F939389-34B9-4A78-A6EA-FADE0725826B@windstream.net> Message-ID: From: "Michael Tucker" Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 5:27 PM To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] 1000 Engine Rally 2011 Photo,s > Thanks, Dave, great photos! I especially liked the engine in SAM_0229 > (page 8)... what's the brand name and HP for that critter? > > Thanks, > Mike > > On Jun 28, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Dave Croft wrote: > >> I didn't have the time to record the details but here is about 100 >> pictures of the engines that interested me. >> Saturday was cloudy with showers but Sunday was roasting! >> See http://good-times.webshots.com/album/580393198ZtwNta >> Dave Croft >> http://oldengine.org/members/croft/ >> http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > Michael Tucker > oldironnut at windstream.net > Versailles, Kentucky, USA Hi Michael, The engine is a Dutch Engine Brouhot & Co owned by a friend of 25 years, Kees Fitters... A web page about Kees and Dutch shows are at the address below. http://home.kpn.nl/antonvandercruijsen/expl.kees.htm The later years seem to have disappeared but good rare engines are shown! see http://image90.webshots.com/90/0/15/69/2692015690028520097mYUZxo_fs.jpg Dave Croft From obise at moscow.com Tue Jun 28 16:48:35 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:48:35 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Spam> RE: 1000 Engine Rally 2011 Photo,s In-Reply-To: <54CD3207DB2243A5B15A73326A31A754@BTDAVEPC> References: <54CD3207DB2243A5B15A73326A31A754@BTDAVEPC> Message-ID: <460D0B9DE33A4F06BD46C3CDFF5E2402@CathyComp> -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave Croft Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:41 AM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] 1000 Engine Rally 2011 Photo,s I didn't have the time to record the details but here is about 100 pictures of the engines that interested me. Saturday was cloudy with showers but Sunday was roasting! See http://good-times.webshots.com/album/580393198ZtwNta Dave Croft http://oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thank you, Dave! The pictures are great. I especially enjoy your rally pictures because you make sure to include the hot air engines. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 23:54:29 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 07:54:29 +0100 Subject: [SEL] 1000 Engine Rally 2011 Photo,s In-Reply-To: References: <54CD3207DB2243A5B15A73326A31A754@BTDAVEPC> <7F939389-34B9-4A78-A6EA-FADE0725826B@windstream.net> Message-ID: On 28 June 2011 22:19, Dave Croft wrote: > The later years seem to have disappeared > > Dave Croft Dave: Look here: http://home.kpn.nl/antonvandercruijsen/jaren.htm Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From eric at facspro.com Wed Jun 29 06:57:01 2011 From: eric at facspro.com (Eric Walter) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 08:57:01 -0500 Subject: [SEL] My quest continues Message-ID: If anyone comes across or knows of a JD Type E that is fired with a Buzz coil / Spark plug setup please take a picture of the timing mechanism for me. I have been unable to find anything on this type setup and would dearly like to get it running. I've rigged it up with several different configurations but just cant seem to get it to fire at the right time. Thanks Eric Walter From frappi at wcoil.com Wed Jun 29 10:06:45 2011 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:06:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] My quest continues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20110629170620.AE50C9498@smtp.wcoil.com> Eric, Give me a call, worked on a few of these. Theres not much to see "externally" on a factory original set up just a contact clamped on the push rod and a insulated contact off a bracket bolted to where the mag would normally set. As for timing just make the contacts connect at about 1/4" Before Top Dead Center of the compression stroke. Thats all there really is to it. Now if you are converting a magneto engine to spark plug ignition there are several changes that needs to be made. The most important being the cam. Thats to make it run right, without building specific pieces to work in certain ways. Mark At 09:57 AM 6/29/2011, you wrote: > If anyone comes across or knows of a JD Type E that is fired with > a Buzz coil / Spark plug setup please take a picture of the timing > mechanism for me. > I have been unable to find anything on this type setup and would > dearly like to get it running. I've rigged it up with several > different configurations but just cant seem to get it to fire at > the right time. > > >Thanks >Eric Walter > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From rotigel at me.com Wed Jun 1 05:18:04 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 08:18:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Show In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2D9CD7F1-7962-4E41-BC8F-20D08934921A@me.com> It was a GOOD TIME Mate! We will miss you and your dad! Dave On Jun 1, 2011, at 2:04 AM, Russell wrote: > Gee how quick has this come around. Already 12 months since I had a > nice feed of porter house steak and fresh corn compliments of Dave > and co. I will be thinking of you guys having way to much fun. > Coolspring is just something else. > Russell > > > > > > On 01/06/2011, at 3:59 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > >> Hi Gang, >> I talked to Jake about the SEL space for the June Coolspring Show >> (June 16, 17, and 18) several days ago. He will allot us the same >> space we have had for the past 10 years--2nd row at the end by the >> trees. Steve and Mel Weber and I will be posting signs as to the >> boundaries of our area the morning of June 15th. >> Jake has asked that we fill in the area starting at the trees and >> moving toward the entrance in order that we can "give back" any >> unused >> area as of Friday evening. This is because there will be about 30 >> LESS >> spaces this year due to an oil/gas well that has recently been put >> in. >> Hope to see LOTS of LIST members at Coolspring this year! >> Dave >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Wed Jun 1 15:11:23 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George (DS)) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:11:23 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any engine buying by me for awhile. Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold the car and went into the Air Force instead. Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, which was the fastest car of my youth. I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been calling my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the past. This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has been modified to handle the engine. So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild my money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines and tractors. George Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From langer5 at xplornet.ca Wed Jun 1 15:44:14 2011 From: langer5 at xplornet.ca (Larry Anger) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 18:44:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <43D9C180FFCB41A7B11974E9C4D7C7C4@larryf92159205> George - I had a similar experience just yesterday. I wouldn't be able to afford the car I had before I was married, so I bought something a little older. I had a 1957 Ford convertible before I was married but to get another one would be a little pricey so yesterday I bought a 1928 Model A Ford. It is fully restored to original specs and quality and in museum condition. So there goes my slush fund probably for the rest of my days. O well at least my wife approves. That's more than I can say for her love of rusty old engines. Larry Anger. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George (DS) Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any engine buying by me for awhile. Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold the car and went into the Air Force instead. Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, which was the fastest car of my youth. I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been calling my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the past. This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has been modified to handle the engine. So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild my money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines and tractors. George Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jun 1 15:46:05 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 08:46:05 +1000 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <8B67A29F-40F5-4EB0-8F11-CF050F1FBE6A@ncable.com.au> George the only thing Dark about your new toy is the flavour! Now if you came home with a 64 Chev you would really win the prize. Your are one of many on this list who owns a car just because you/they can. Good luck to you Russell On 02/06/2011, at 8:11 AM, Best, George (DS) wrote: > On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any engine buying by me for awhile. > > Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. > > Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. > > Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold the car and went into the Air Force instead. > > Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, which was the fastest car of my youth. > > I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been calling my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. > > Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the past. > > This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has been modified to handle the engine. > > So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild my money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines and tractors. > > George > > Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jun 1 15:48:09 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 08:48:09 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Show In-Reply-To: <2D9CD7F1-7962-4E41-BC8F-20D08934921A@me.com> References: <2D9CD7F1-7962-4E41-BC8F-20D08934921A@me.com> Message-ID: <5936E048-0699-4711-9321-DA4E3BB4D887@ncable.com.au> It was good indeed. Are you stopping by the diner in the mornings for breaky? Watch out for them ground hogs Russ On 01/06/2011, at 10:18 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > It was a GOOD TIME Mate! We will miss you and your dad! > Dave > > On Jun 1, 2011, at 2:04 AM, Russell wrote: > >> Gee how quick has this come around. Already 12 months since I had a >> nice feed of porter house steak and fresh corn compliments of Dave >> and co. I will be thinking of you guys having way to much fun. >> Coolspring is just something else. >> Russell >> >> >> >> >> >> On 01/06/2011, at 3:59 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote: >> >>> Hi Gang, >>> I talked to Jake about the SEL space for the June Coolspring Show >>> (June 16, 17, and 18) several days ago. He will allot us the same >>> space we have had for the past 10 years--2nd row at the end by the >>> trees. Steve and Mel Weber and I will be posting signs as to the >>> boundaries of our area the morning of June 15th. >>> Jake has asked that we fill in the area starting at the trees and >>> moving toward the entrance in order that we can "give back" any >>> unused >>> area as of Friday evening. This is because there will be about 30 >>> LESS >>> spaces this year due to an oil/gas well that has recently been put >>> in. >>> Hope to see LOTS of LIST members at Coolspring this year! >>> Dave >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Wed Jun 1 15:49:36 2011 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (gasenginetom at hotmail.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 18:49:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: George Nice car Now what engines do you wanna sell :-) lol Tom Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: "Best, George (DS)" To: The SEL email discussion list Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2011 22:11:23 GMT+00:00 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any engine buying by me for awhile. Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold the car and went into the Air Force instead. Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, which was the fastest car of my youth. I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been calling my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the past. This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has been modified to handle the engine. So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild my money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines and tractors. George Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Jun 1 17:21:13 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 20:21:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <544EF2AE67E94ACC824B86C3D9C23445@mikecomp> Bring a trailer full to Coolspring George, I'll help you out!!!!! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Best, George (DS)" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any > engine buying by me for awhile. > > Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. > > Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. > > Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon > Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam > wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold the > car and went into the Air Force instead. > > Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, which > was the fastest car of my youth. > > I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been calling > my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. > > Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the > past. > > This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has > been modified to handle the engine. > > So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild my > money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines and > tractors. > > George > > Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments > from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Jun 1 17:22:05 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 20:22:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <43D9C180FFCB41A7B11974E9C4D7C7C4@larryf92159205> Message-ID: Larry, bring your engines too! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Anger" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > George - I had a similar experience just yesterday. I wouldn't be able to > afford the car I had before I was married, so I bought something a little > older. I had a 1957 Ford convertible before I was married but to get > another > one would be a little pricey so yesterday I bought a 1928 Model A Ford. It > is fully restored to original specs and quality and in museum condition. > So > there goes my slush fund probably for the rest of my days. O well at least > my wife approves. That's more than I can say for her love of rusty old > engines. > > Larry Anger. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George > (DS) > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > > On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any > engine > buying by me for awhile. > > Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. > > Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. > > Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon > Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam > wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold the > car and went into the Air Force instead. > > Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, which > was the fastest car of my youth. > > I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been calling > my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. > > Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the > past. > > This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has > been > modified to handle the engine. > > So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild my > money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines and > tractors. > > George > > Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized > representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by > e-mail > and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From langer5 at xplornet.ca Wed Jun 1 17:39:41 2011 From: langer5 at xplornet.ca (Larry Anger) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 20:39:41 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><43D9C180FFCB41A7B11974E9C4D7C7C4@larryf92159205> Message-ID: Mike - My wife would like to see my barn cleaned out. She and I have a difference of opinion regarding rusty iron. The car she admits is OK. Larry. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mike Royster Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:22 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side Larry, bring your engines too! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Anger" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > George - I had a similar experience just yesterday. I wouldn't be able to > afford the car I had before I was married, so I bought something a little > older. I had a 1957 Ford convertible before I was married but to get > another > one would be a little pricey so yesterday I bought a 1928 Model A Ford. It > is fully restored to original specs and quality and in museum condition. > So > there goes my slush fund probably for the rest of my days. O well at least > my wife approves. That's more than I can say for her love of rusty old > engines. > > Larry Anger. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George > (DS) > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > > On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any > engine > buying by me for awhile. > > Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. > > Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. > > Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon > Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam > wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold the > car and went into the Air Force instead. > > Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, which > was the fastest car of my youth. > > I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been calling > my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. > > Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the > past. > > This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has > been > modified to handle the engine. > > So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild my > money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines and > tractors. > > George > > Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized > representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by > e-mail > and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lew at lewslittlefarm.com Wed Jun 1 18:33:41 2011 From: lew at lewslittlefarm.com (Lew Best) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 20:33:41 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <006801cc20c5$23320ab0$69962010$@com> Well back in my high school days I always wanted an MG Midget. Couldn't afford one until just before I got married & I knew that one would be impractical then (bride didn't drive; no room in it to even carry groceries home; much less travel). I was at a "country auction" about a year & a half ago & there was one there! No one knew whether it had an engine or not; couldn't get the bonnet up to see. Had no shift lever & the radiator, a pair of carburetors, etc. were in the boot. I bought it cheap; got it home, got the bonnet open & the engine was there. Had to put points in it & it fired right up; runs good! It even had the title! I think it's really neat to be able to find a "car from your childhood days (though this is a 72 & I was dreaming about one back in the early 60's; body style on this one is the same) I haven't messed with it further; broke my hip in October & now too much catching up to do since I've recovered (full hip replacement at the VA hospital in Houston) There are pix of the car on my website lewslittlefarm.com Lew near Waco, TX -----Original Message----- On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any engine buying by me for awhile. Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold the car and went into the Air Force instead. Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, which was the fastest car of my youth. I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been calling my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the past. This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has been modified to handle the engine. So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild my money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines and tractors. George Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Jun 1 18:55:21 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 18:55:21 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><43D9C180FFCB41A7B11974E9C4D7C7C4@larryf92159205> Message-ID: <20F25BC4-E95C-42E4-9D5C-A01C9992E505@rustyiron.com> On Jun 1, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Larry Anger wrote: > Mike - My wife would like to see my barn cleaned out. She and I have a > difference of opinion regarding rusty iron. The car she admits is OK. Someone please send me Larry's wife's cell phone number. From tchristoff at earthlink.net Wed Jun 1 19:52:38 2011 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:52:38 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side Message-ID: <4239021.1306983158438.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Isn't there a law on how many blue tarps your allowed to have Mike? -----Original Message----- >From: Mike Royster >Sent: Jun 1, 2011 7:21 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > >Bring a trailer full to Coolspring George, I'll help you out!!!!! > >MR >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Best, George (DS)" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM >Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > > >> On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any >> engine buying by me for awhile. >> >> Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. >> >> Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. >> >> Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon >> Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam >> wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold the >> car and went into the Air Force instead. >> >> Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, which >> was the fastest car of my youth. >> >> I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been calling >> my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. >> >> Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the >> past. >> >> This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has >> been modified to handle the engine. >> >> So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild my >> money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines and >> tractors. >> >> George >> >> Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? >> >> >> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >> addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. >> If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an >> authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby >> notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly >> prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please >> notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments >> from your system. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Jun 1 20:07:40 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 23:07:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><43D9C180FFCB41A7B11974E9C4D7C7C4@larryf92159205> <20F25BC4-E95C-42E4-9D5C-A01C9992E505@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Sorry, it can only be dialed from NC. California blocking and all that...... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > > On Jun 1, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Larry Anger wrote: > >> Mike - My wife would like to see my barn cleaned out. She and I have a >> difference of opinion regarding rusty iron. The car she admits is OK. > > Someone please send me Larry's wife's cell phone number. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From george at irontrader.com Wed Jun 1 20:57:15 2011 From: george at irontrader.com (=?utf-8?B?Z2VvcmdlQGlyb250cmFkZXIuY29t?=) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 20:57:15 -0700 Subject: [SEL] =?utf-8?q?OT=3A__Joined_The_Dark_Side?= Message-ID: <20110602035703.D888E65B444@in02.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Sorry Mike but I already have my plane tickets. Plus I have to drive the tour van. You and Steve could always make a west Coast road trip. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Mike Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side Date: Wed, Jun 1, 2011 5:21 pm Bring a trailer full to Coolspring George, I'll help you out!!!!! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Best, George (DS)" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any > engine buying by me for awhile. > > Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. > > Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. > > Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon > Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam > wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold the > car and went into the Air Force instead. > > Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, which > was the fastest car of my youth. > > I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been calling > my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. > > Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the > past. > > This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has > been modified to handle the engine. > > So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild my > money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines and > tractors. > > George > > Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments > from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 01:27:16 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 09:27:16 +0100 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F56F31883@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: On 1 June 2011 23:11, Best, George (DS) wrote: > On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any engine buying by me for awhile. > > Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. > > Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. Always liked the Buick straight-8 cars, late 40-'s to early 50's. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rustyiron1 at bigpond.com Thu Jun 2 02:29:16 2011 From: rustyiron1 at bigpond.com (Andy Nicholson) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:29:16 +1000 Subject: [SEL] International M 1.5hp Message-ID: <533D203EA9CC485A8F1DC8313414E9A1@owner916e4fa44> Can some one out there help me. I need some information to finish off my 1925 Inter M 1.5hp. Where do the Decal's go??? Yes I know on the hopper, but which side and what sort?? Can any one put on the right track? Andy Nicholson N/Queensland Aust From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Jun 2 03:39:32 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 06:39:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side References: <4239021.1306983158438.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Yes Tim, current zoning allows me 15 tarps and I only have 4 at present. Load your trailer and come on down! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Christoff" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > Isn't there a law on how many blue tarps your allowed to have Mike? > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Mike Royster >>Sent: Jun 1, 2011 7:21 PM >>To: The SEL email discussion list >>Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side >> >>Bring a trailer full to Coolspring George, I'll help you out!!!!! >> >>MR >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Best, George (DS)" >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM >>Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side >> >> >>> On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any >>> engine buying by me for awhile. >>> >>> Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. >>> >>> Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. >>> >>> Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon >>> Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle Sam >>> wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold >>> the >>> car and went into the Air Force instead. >>> >>> Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, >>> which >>> was the fastest car of my youth. >>> >>> I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been >>> calling >>> my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. >>> >>> Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the >>> past. >>> >>> This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has >>> been modified to handle the engine. >>> >>> So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild >>> my >>> money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines >>> and >>> tractors. >>> >>> George >>> >>> Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >>> addressee and may contain information that is privileged and >>> confidential. >>> If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an >>> authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby >>> notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly >>> prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please >>> notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any >>> attachments >>> from your system. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Tim Christoff > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jlb94 at juno.com Thu Jun 2 11:16:52 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:16:52 GMT Subject: [SEL] International M 1.5hp Message-ID: <20110602.141652.11780.1@webmail21.vgs.untd.com> Hi Andy, I just purchased a 1929 Int'l "M" a few weeks ago. On the right side of the hopper (looking from behind the flywheels) there is a decal approx. 2?" x 6?" that would say McCormick Deering. On the left side of the hopper there is a decal approx 2?" x 2" that I cannot read. It looks like four circles crammed together (like an expanded world globe or something). I have no idea what the printing on this one might be. I am pretty sure my 1? Int'l "M" is original as there is one leg of the skid (starting/working side) that still has "1? HP McCormick Deering" printed on it. Hope this helps. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Andy Nicholson" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: [SEL] International M 1.5hp Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:29:16 +1000 Can some one out there help me. I need some information to finish off my 1925 Inter M 1.5hp. Where do the Decal's go??? Yes I know on the hopper, but which side and what sort?? Can any one put on the right track? Andy Nicholson N/Queensland Aust _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Groupon.com Official Site 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4de7d3c01c820280680st01vuc From jlb94 at juno.com Thu Jun 2 11:20:07 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:20:07 GMT Subject: [SEL] International M 1.5hp Message-ID: <20110602.142007.11780.2@webmail21.vgs.untd.com> Hi Andy - - - I forgot to mention that the decals are centered on the sides of the hopper. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Andy Nicholson" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: [SEL] International M 1.5hp Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:29:16 +1000 Can some one out there help me. I need some information to finish off my 1925 Inter M 1.5hp. Where do the Decal's go??? Yes I know on the hopper, but which side and what sort?? Can any one put on the right track? Andy Nicholson N/Queensland Aust _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Groupon.com Official Site 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4de7d4776c1761a8d2est06vuc From rotigel at me.com Thu Jun 2 14:02:12 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:02:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Show In-Reply-To: <5936E048-0699-4711-9321-DA4E3BB4D887@ncable.com.au> References: <2D9CD7F1-7962-4E41-BC8F-20D08934921A@me.com> <5936E048-0699-4711-9321-DA4E3BB4D887@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <976D0B37-0B1A-42C0-BA07-C6B5145A8E19@me.com> Yup, 7:00 am. Can you and the girls join us? I'll buy! Dave On Jun 1, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Russell wrote: > It was good indeed. Are you stopping by the diner in the mornings > for breaky? Watch out for them ground hogs > Russ > > > On 01/06/2011, at 10:18 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > >> It was a GOOD TIME Mate! We will miss you and your dad! >> Dave >> >> On Jun 1, 2011, at 2:04 AM, Russell wrote: >> >>> Gee how quick has this come around. Already 12 months since I had a >>> nice feed of porter house steak and fresh corn compliments of Dave >>> and co. I will be thinking of you guys having way to much fun. >>> Coolspring is just something else. >>> Russell >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 01/06/2011, at 3:59 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Gang, >>>> I talked to Jake about the SEL space for the June Coolspring Show >>>> (June 16, 17, and 18) several days ago. He will allot us the same >>>> space we have had for the past 10 years--2nd row at the end by the >>>> trees. Steve and Mel Weber and I will be posting signs as to the >>>> boundaries of our area the morning of June 15th. >>>> Jake has asked that we fill in the area starting at the trees and >>>> moving toward the entrance in order that we can "give back" any >>>> unused >>>> area as of Friday evening. This is because there will be about 30 >>>> LESS >>>> spaces this year due to an oil/gas well that has recently been put >>>> in. >>>> Hope to see LOTS of LIST members at Coolspring this year! >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Thu Jun 2 16:06:19 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:06:19 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Show In-Reply-To: <976D0B37-0B1A-42C0-BA07-C6B5145A8E19@me.com> References: <2D9CD7F1-7962-4E41-BC8F-20D08934921A@me.com> <5936E048-0699-4711-9321-DA4E3BB4D887@ncable.com.au> <976D0B37-0B1A-42C0-BA07-C6B5145A8E19@me.com> Message-ID: <9C856B25-FBF1-4B2D-8976-261F8DA681C2@ncable.com.au> Temping thats for sure. The girls say hi Dave. Have a great week. PS: how that hot chick going your married too! Say hi from us also. On 03/06/2011, at 7:02 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > Yup, 7:00 am. Can you and the girls join us? I'll buy! > Dave > > On Jun 1, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Russell wrote: > >> It was good indeed. Are you stopping by the diner in the mornings >> for breaky? Watch out for them ground hogs >> Russ >> >> >> On 01/06/2011, at 10:18 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote: >> >>> It was a GOOD TIME Mate! We will miss you and your dad! >>> Dave >>> >>> On Jun 1, 2011, at 2:04 AM, Russell wrote: >>> >>>> Gee how quick has this come around. Already 12 months since I had a >>>> nice feed of porter house steak and fresh corn compliments of Dave >>>> and co. I will be thinking of you guys having way to much fun. >>>> Coolspring is just something else. >>>> Russell >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 01/06/2011, at 3:59 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Gang, >>>>> I talked to Jake about the SEL space for the June Coolspring Show >>>>> (June 16, 17, and 18) several days ago. He will allot us the same >>>>> space we have had for the past 10 years--2nd row at the end by the >>>>> trees. Steve and Mel Weber and I will be posting signs as to the >>>>> boundaries of our area the morning of June 15th. >>>>> Jake has asked that we fill in the area starting at the trees and >>>>> moving toward the entrance in order that we can "give back" any >>>>> unused >>>>> area as of Friday evening. This is because there will be about 30 >>>>> LESS >>>>> spaces this year due to an oil/gas well that has recently been put >>>>> in. >>>>> Hope to see LOTS of LIST members at Coolspring this year! >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SEL mailing list >>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From tchristoff at earthlink.net Thu Jun 2 18:51:55 2011 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:51:55 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side Message-ID: <7185866.1307065916380.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >> >> Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. Always wanted one of those George. > >Always liked the Buick straight-8 cars, late 40-'s to early 50's. > >Peter >-- I had one of these Peter, it needed a complete rework. I sold it to a guy who was going to turn it into a Hot Rod. Part of the deal was I get to keep the straight-8 (which was all there and in decent condition) engine. Have no plans for the engine but thought it would be neat to save it. Tim Tim Christoff From rustyiron1 at bigpond.com Fri Jun 3 01:08:35 2011 From: rustyiron1 at bigpond.com (Andy Nicholson) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 18:08:35 +1000 Subject: [SEL] International M 1.5hp References: <20110602.141652.11780.1@webmail21.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <285DB057ACC344D6A1AD16E893DBF056@owner916e4fa44> Thanks Joe, The "World Globe" is it coloured, Green H, Red I, or is just a gold colour. There are two listed from a parts suppier here, and I don't know which to get. Knowing my luck I'll stick the wrong one on, and be told by every man and his dog it's wrong. Andy....... ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 4:16 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] International M 1.5hp Hi Andy, I just purchased a 1929 Int'l "M" a few weeks ago. On the right side of the hopper (looking from behind the flywheels) there is a decal approx. 2?" x 6?" that would say McCormick Deering. On the left side of the hopper there is a decal approx 2?" x 2" that I cannot read. It looks like four circles crammed together (like an expanded world globe or something). I have no idea what the printing on this one might be. I am pretty sure my 1? Int'l "M" is original as there is one leg of the skid (starting/working side) that still has "1? HP McCormick Deering" printed on it. Hope this helps. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Andy Nicholson" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: [SEL] International M 1.5hp Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:29:16 +1000 Can some one out there help me. I need some information to finish off my 1925 Inter M 1.5hp. Where do the Decal's go??? Yes I know on the hopper, but which side and what sort?? Can any one put on the right track? Andy Nicholson N/Queensland Aust _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Groupon.com Official Site 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4de7d3c01c820280680st01vuc _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Jun 3 11:20:47 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 20:20:47 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Subject: Re: International M 1.5hp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110603200637.01b2a260@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 03/06/2011, you wrote: Message: 1 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:16:52 GMT From: "jlb94 at juno.com" Subject: Re: [SEL] International M 1.5hp Hi Andy, I just purchased a 1929 Int'l "M" a few weeks ago. On the right side of the hopper (looking from behind the flywheels) there is a decal approx. 2?" x 6?" that would say McCormick Deering. On the left side of the hopper there is a decal approx 2?" x 2" that I cannot read. It looks like four circles crammed together (like an expanded world globe or something). I have no idea what the printing on this one might be. I am pretty sure my 1? Int'l "M" is original as there is one leg of the skid (starting/working side) that still has "1? HP McCormick Deering" printed on it. Hope this helps. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. Hi Joe & Andy, I have redrawn that "Double Globe" decal for reproduction here in South Africa. The one I have done has the world map etc. in shades of blue and grey and all else in Gold with a black outline. There was another "colour scheme" used as well but I would need to go through backups to find that. Bear in mind also that exported models had different markings - many e-mails passed between myself and the late John Hammink on this subject! I have put a pic on my site here: <[1]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/Internat%20Harvesternew%20lo go.jpg> of the one that I have redrawn, it includes the correct size. I unfortunately cannot say which years had this particular decal or which years had the other colour scheme. I think the other colour scheme was just gold with a black outline but would not put my "cock on a block" as to that information. I trust that this info is helpful and does not just add to your confusion !! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: <[2]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> References 1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/Internat%20Harvesternew%20logo.jpg 2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From jlb94 at juno.com Fri Jun 3 13:02:50 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 20:02:50 GMT Subject: [SEL] Subject: Re: International M 1.5hp Message-ID: <20110603.160250.9854.0@webmail15.vgs.untd.com> Hi Jerry, Thanks for the info. That should clear up a lot of confusion. I now know what should be on the left side of the hopper. Right now I have nothing but a yellowish background of a decal. I have no intentions of restoring this engine other than getting it running right, but will keep you in mind if I ever do. The engine starts fine and runs great (considering the fuel pump isn't working right) but the problems come after a run and then trying to restart. Once it's hot, it doesn't want to start. It could be a combination of things. Fuel pump, Sticky valves, Maybe too much carbon in the head, Compression, etc. I'm pretty sure it is a Well Worn Engine. First thing I'll work on is the fuel pump. At first, it was all gummed up and I gave it a "quick clean" just to get the engine running for Nat'l Pike Steam, Gas & Horse Show. It runs fine but - once hot, no run. Thanks again for the sketch of the decal. It is much help. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Jerry Evans To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Subject: Re: International M 1.5hp Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 20:20:47 +0200 At 06:00 PM 03/06/2011, you wrote: Message: 1 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:16:52 GMT From: "jlb94 at juno.com" Subject: Re: [SEL] International M 1.5hp Hi Andy, I just purchased a 1929 Int'l "M" a few weeks ago. On the right side of the hopper (looking from behind the flywheels) there is a decal approx. 2?" x 6?" that would say McCormick Deering. On the left side of the hopper there is a decal approx 2?" x 2" that I cannot read. It looks like four circles crammed together (like an expanded world globe or something). I have no idea what the printing on this one might be. I am pretty sure my 1? Int'l "M" is original as there is one leg of the skid (starting/working side) that still has "1? HP McCormick Deering" printed on it. Hope this helps. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. Hi Joe & Andy, I have redrawn that "Double Globe" decal for reproduction here in South Africa. The one I have done has the world map etc. in shades of blue and grey and all else in Gold with a black outline. There was another "colour scheme" used as well but I would need to go through backups to find that. Bear in mind also that exported models had different markings - many e-mails passed between myself and the late John Hammink on this subject! I have put a pic on my site here: <[1]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/Internat%20Harvesternew%20lo go.jpg> of the one that I have redrawn, it includes the correct size. I unfortunately cannot say which years had this particular decal or which years had the other colour scheme. I think the other colour scheme was just gold with a black outline but would not put my "cock on a block" as to that information. I trust that this info is helpful and does not just add to your confusion !! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: <[2]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> References 1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/Internat%20Harvesternew%20logo.jpg 2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4de93e252a06b2bd92cst02vuc From k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com Sat Jun 4 17:27:20 2011 From: k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com (k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:27:20 +0800 Subject: [SEL] museum out of los angels Message-ID: Hello Members, I am going to the usa next Wednesday and will be stopping in LA for 2 nights 3 days and would like to visit the observatory/museum out side of LA can anyone advise me of the name and how far it is from the LA International airport. we then go to Chicago. Regards Kevin Armstrong From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 23:19:05 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 07:19:05 +0100 Subject: [SEL] museum out of los angels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 5 June 2011 01:27, wrote: > Hello Members, > > I am going to the usa next Wednesday and will be stopping in LA for 2 nights 3 days and would like to visit the observatory/museum out side of LA can anyone advise me of the name and how far it is from the LA International airport. we then go to Chicago. > > Regards > > Kevin Armstrong Mount Wilson Observatory? Larry and Ken Evans are the people to contact, they will have local information and times to go. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jeffchattin at msn.com Sun Jun 5 02:41:52 2011 From: jeffchattin at msn.com (jeff chattin) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 05:41:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] museum out of los angels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://nethercuttcollection.org/ Jeff > From: k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:27:20 +0800 > Subject: [SEL] museum out of los angels > > Hello Members, > > I am going to the usa next Wednesday and will be stopping in LA for 2 nights 3 days and would like to visit the observatory/museum out side of LA can anyone advise me of the name and how far it is from the LA International airport. we then go to Chicago. > > Regards > > Kevin Armstrong > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com Sun Jun 5 19:05:01 2011 From: k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com (kevin armstrong) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:05:01 +0800 Subject: [SEL] museum out of los angels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001801cc23ee$252ff3f0$6f8fdbd0$@com> Thanks jeff, looks a good collection to see, that is not far away from the airport we just have to work out how to get there. Kevin armstrong -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of jeff chattin Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2011 5:42 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] museum out of los angels http://nethercuttcollection.org/ Jeff > From: k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:27:20 +0800 > Subject: [SEL] museum out of los angels > > Hello Members, > > I am going to the usa next Wednesday and will be stopping in LA for 2 nights 3 days and would like to visit the observatory/museum out side of LA can anyone advise me of the name and how far it is from the LA International airport. we then go to Chicago. > > Regards > > Kevin Armstrong > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Sun Jun 5 21:43:14 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 21:43:14 -0700 Subject: [SEL] museum out of los angels In-Reply-To: <001801cc23ee$252ff3f0$6f8fdbd0$@com> References: <001801cc23ee$252ff3f0$6f8fdbd0$@com> Message-ID: On Jun 5, 2011, at 7:05 PM, kevin armstrong wrote: > Thanks jeff, looks a good collection to see, that is not far away from the > airport we just have to work out how to get there. > > Kevin armstrong Hey, Kevin. If you give Nethercutt a call, perhaps you can get in on the tour. You'll get to see stuff that is not open to wandering tourists; it's well worth it. I think the days of the tours are Thursday and Friday. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 13:32:53 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:32:53 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 18 May 2011 20:16, Listerdiesel wrote: Lots of work going on, we are almost ready to roll, albeit without all the 'nice' bits, but we have wheels and a roof over our head, the engine section is completed and the winch is operational. Windows went in today, cushions etc are to be collected tomorrow after the backing material was renewed. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis151.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis152.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis153.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis154.jpg The series of pictures runs from DBChassis1.jpg to DBChassis154.jpg, all are available if you modify the URLs above Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From bobpaton at exemail.com.au Mon Jun 6 14:01:55 2011 From: bobpaton at exemail.com.au (Bob paton) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 07:01:55 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001cc248c$f77f2cb0$e67d8610$@com.au> Peter That's looking very nice indeed. A very professional piece of work all the way through. Even that nice touch of a built-in hook on the front outside wall to hang up an outdoor shower. Looks like you could move in soon! Bob Paton in Leura NSW Oz -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2011 6:33 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Cc: Stationary-Engine Subject: Re: [SEL] Trailer Update On 18 May 2011 20:16, Listerdiesel wrote: Lots of work going on, we are almost ready to roll, albeit without all the 'nice' bits, but we have wheels and a roof over our head, the engine section is completed and the winch is operational. Windows went in today, cushions etc are to be collected tomorrow after the backing material was renewed. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis151.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis152.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis153.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis154.jpg The series of pictures runs from DBChassis1.jpg to DBChassis154.jpg, all are available if you modify the URLs above Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From kosh at ncweb.com Mon Jun 6 15:36:56 2011 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 18:36:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: <000001cc248c$f77f2cb0$e67d8610$@com.au> References: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20110606183619.037a4180@ncweb.com> Are you going to bother with a shower curtain? Dave Merchant At 05:01 PM 6/6/2011, you wrote: >Peter >That's looking very nice indeed. A very professional piece of work all the >way through. Even that nice touch of a built-in hook on the front outside >wall to hang up an outdoor shower. Looks like you could move in soon! >Bob Paton in Leura NSW Oz > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel >Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2011 6:33 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Cc: Stationary-Engine >Subject: Re: [SEL] Trailer Update > >On 18 May 2011 20:16, Listerdiesel wrote: > >Lots of work going on, we are almost ready to roll, albeit without all >the 'nice' bits, but we have wheels and a roof over our head, the >engine section is completed and the winch is operational. Windows went >in today, cushions etc are to be collected tomorrow after the backing >material was renewed. > >http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis151.jpg > >http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis152.jpg > >http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis153.jpg > >http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis154.jpg > >The series of pictures runs from DBChassis1.jpg to DBChassis154.jpg, >all are available if you modify the URLs above > >Peter >-- >Peter A Forbes >Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com >http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel >http://stationary-engine.co.uk >http://www.oldengine.co.uk >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at ncweb.com kosh at nesys.com dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 23:46:45 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 07:46:45 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20110606183619.037a4180@ncweb.com> References: <000001cc248c$f77f2cb0$e67d8610$@com.au> <5.2.0.9.0.20110606183619.037a4180@ncweb.com> Message-ID: On 6 June 2011 23:36, Dave Merchant wrote: > Are you going to bother with a shower curtain? > > Dave Merchant There is a complete bathroom unit to go in, we just won't have time before Nuenen, and they have mobile showers on the site, one of the very few that do. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Jun 7 12:42:50 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:42:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15290c6a181c80c73346d582abb68c1a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Peter, Sounds like you'll have the rig at Nuenen then? Looking forward to seeing you there!! See ya, Arnie On Mon, June 6, 2011 4:32 pm, Listerdiesel wrote: > On 18 May 2011 20:16, Listerdiesel wrote: > > Lots of work going on, we are almost ready to roll, albeit without all > the 'nice' bits, but we have wheels and a roof over our head, the > engine section is completed and the winch is operational. Windows went > in today, cushions etc are to be collected tomorrow after the backing > material was renewed. > > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis151.jpg > > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis152.jpg > > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis153.jpg > > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis154.jpg > > The series of pictures runs from DBChassis1.jpg to DBChassis154.jpg, > all are available if you modify the URLs above > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > From cwja at telus.net Tue Jun 7 14:07:12 2011 From: cwja at telus.net (C. W. Jefferys Allen) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 15:07:12 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Subject: Re: International M 1.5hp In-Reply-To: <20110603.160250.9854.0@webmail15.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110603.160250.9854.0@webmail15.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <4DEE9300.8080309@telus.net> Hi Joe; I have found a very successful way of repairing and improving the action of International fuel pumps . I first make up a brass washer (or steel if you keep oil on the pump plunger) that is a smooth fit of the inside bore of the packing cavity and a smooth fit on the plunger shaft. Take out all the worn out graphite packing string. Wrap the shaft with about 1/16 " thick of teflon thread tape for the entire length of the shaft that is inside the packing cavity. Then replace the graphite string with plumbers teflon packing string to mostly fill the cavity and then wrap agin with teflon thread tape to keep the whole thing together while you put this newly pack plunger back into the plunger cavity. Make sure you have put the plunger spring and new brass washer in place before putting on the packing. Reassemble the pump and put on the engine. As the pump works, the spring pressure slowly compresses the teflon tape and string to make a solid packing of pure teflon. The lubricating property of the teflon makes it work inspite of gas which with the graphite packing ofter washed out the graphite and makes your pump leak. The teflon plug gets tighter and tighter on the shaft and acts as a liquid tight seal like nothing else in the world and my pumps have never leaked or been inoperative again over many years of doing this repair. A squirt of oil once in a while on the plunger shafts keeps everything working well. Make sure your check balls are clean and working when you have the pump apart and the pump will work flawlessly. Hope this is of some help. Jeff Allen, Edmonton, Alberta Canada jlb94 at juno.com wrote: >Hi Jerry, >Thanks for the info. That should clear up a lot of confusion. I now know what should be on the left side of the hopper. Right now I have nothing but a yellowish background of a decal. >I have no intentions of restoring this engine other than getting it running right, but will keep you in mind if I ever do. >The engine starts fine and runs great (considering the fuel pump isn't working right) but the problems come after a run and then trying to restart. Once it's hot, it doesn't want to start. >It could be a combination of things. Fuel pump, Sticky valves, Maybe too much carbon in the head, Compression, etc. I'm pretty sure it is a Well Worn Engine. First thing I'll work on is the fuel pump. At first, it was all gummed up and I gave it a "quick clean" just to get the engine running for Nat'l Pike Steam, Gas & Horse Show. >It runs fine but - once hot, no run. >Thanks again for the sketch of the decal. It is much help. > > > >Joe "Pip" Betz said that. >jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time > (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. > > > > > > >---------- Original Message ---------- >From: Jerry Evans >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Subject: [SEL] Subject: Re: International M 1.5hp >Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 20:20:47 +0200 > > At 06:00 PM 03/06/2011, you wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 18:16:52 GMT > From: "jlb94 at juno.com" > Subject: Re: [SEL] International M 1.5hp > Hi Andy, > I just purchased a 1929 Int'l "M" a few weeks ago. > On the right side of the hopper (looking from behind the flywheels) > there is a decal > approx. 2?" x 6?" that would say McCormick Deering. > On the left side of the hopper there is a decal approx 2?" x 2" that > I cannot read. > It looks like four circles crammed together (like an expanded world > globe or something). > I have no idea what the printing on this one might be. > I am pretty sure my 1? Int'l "M" is original as there is one leg of > the skid > (starting/working side) that still has "1? HP McCormick Deering" > printed on it. > Hope this helps. > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > > Hi Joe & Andy, > I have redrawn that "Double Globe" decal for reproduction here > in South Africa. The one I have done has the world map etc. in shades > of blue and grey and all else in Gold with a black outline. There was > another "colour scheme" used as well but I would need to go through > backups to find that. Bear in mind also that exported models had > different markings - many e-mails passed between myself and the late > John Hammink on this subject! > I have put a pic on my site here: > <[1]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/Internat%20Harvesternew%20lo > go.jpg> > of the one that I have redrawn, it includes the correct size. > I unfortunately cannot say which years had this particular > decal or which years had the other colour scheme. I think the other > colour scheme was just gold with a black outline but would not put my > "cock on a block" as to that information. > I trust that this info is helpful and does not just add to your > confusion !! > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > <[2]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> > >References > > 1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/Internat%20Harvesternew%20logo.jpg > 2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >____________________________________________________________ >Groupon™ Official Site >1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4de93e252a06b2bd92cst02vuc >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 15:02:04 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 23:02:04 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: <2048688183.78831307447377279.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: <2048688183.78831307447377279.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: On 7 June 2011 12:49, wrote: > Hi Peter, > Have been watching the progress on your master piece trailer and was wondering what the ball hitch thingy is on the upper back end of the unit??? > Curt That's the parking point for the drawbar, Curt: http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis147.jpg The drawbar is about 6ft long and extends out in front, but when parked at our place, it overhangs the pavement and the road, so we swivel the coupling head 180 degrees and hook it up to that ball. It has a lock in the head so pretty thief-proof as well. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 14:57:50 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 22:57:50 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: <15290c6a181c80c73346d582abb68c1a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <15290c6a181c80c73346d582abb68c1a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: On 7 June 2011 20:42, Arnie Fero wrote: > Peter, > > Sounds like you'll have the rig at Nuenen then? ?Looking forward to seeing you there!! > > See ya, ?Arnie Still got things to do, worked up until 10.30pm tonight, laying in lighting and low voltage cabling. Brake linkage has been an issue but noiw almost sorted. Hope to have it at Nuenen, would be gutted if we couldn't make it, even if some of the fitting out isn't completed. Bl**dy engine compartment is all finished! :-)) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Jun 8 00:39:34 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 03:39:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: <15290c6a181c80c73346d582abb68c1a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <90b0b057bc4f681a455a9d0ee508d25a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Brakes? Don't need no steenkin' brakes. It's all flat between England and Nuenen. Besides, you have the most important bits done; engine compartment and roof. 8-)) See ya in a couple... Arnie On Tue, June 7, 2011 5:57 pm, Listerdiesel wrote: > Still got things to do, worked up until 10.30pm tonight, laying in > lighting and low voltage cabling. Brake linkage has been an issue but > noiw almost sorted. > > Hope to have it at Nuenen, would be gutted if we couldn't make it, > even if some of the fitting out isn't completed. > > Bl**dy engine compartment is all finished! :-)) From cgandree at mchsi.com Wed Jun 8 03:39:32 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 05:39:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1167409713.280481307529572742.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Wow Peter you thought of everything. Never saw a front hitch set up like that over here. Thanks for the explaination. Curt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org Cc: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 5:02:04 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [SEL] Trailer Update On 7 June 2011 12:49, wrote: > Hi Peter, > Have been watching the progress on your master piece trailer and was wondering what the ball hitch thingy is on the upper back end of the unit??? > Curt That's the parking point for the drawbar, Curt: http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBChassis147.jpg The drawbar is about 6ft long and extends out in front, but when parked at our place, it overhangs the pavement and the road, so we swivel the coupling head 180 degrees and hook it up to that ball. It has a lock in the head so pretty thief-proof as well. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Jun 8 04:50:43 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 07:50:43 EDT Subject: [SEL] Subject: Re: International M 1.5hp Message-ID: <8b489.37092209.3b20bc13@aol.com> In a message dated 6/7/2011 5:14:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cwja at telus.net writes: with plumbers teflon packing string Jeff, I have used the packing string also, but never thought about wrapping the shaft and outside of the string with Teflon tape. Sounds like a great idea to file away for the future. Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From cgandree at mchsi.com Wed Jun 8 06:43:33 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 08:43:33 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] Dave Croft Message-ID: <216875856.302961307540613267.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Hi All, Our good friend Dave Croft has experienced a complete PC melt down and loss of all files, addresses,etc. He just got a new PC with Windows 7 and having great difficulty getting on to the lists and emails. If you could give him some support by emailing your contact info to he would greatly appreciate it. Thank you, Curt Andree From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Wed Jun 8 07:27:18 2011 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 10:27:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] H.M. Spence start up movie In-Reply-To: <216875856.302961307540613267.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: <216875856.302961307540613267.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: Here's another new toy I just got around to starting up for the first time last night http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hld8Pnhxm1o Tom Winland Ohio From lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Jun 8 08:19:52 2011 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:19:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] H.M. Spence start up movie In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You've got that baby sounding good Tom. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tom Winland Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:27 AM To: SEL list Subject: [SEL] H.M. Spence start up movie Here's another new toy I just got around to starting up for the first time last night http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hld8Pnhxm1o Tom Winland Ohio _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 10:49:05 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:49:05 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: <90b0b057bc4f681a455a9d0ee508d25a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <15290c6a181c80c73346d582abb68c1a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <90b0b057bc4f681a455a9d0ee508d25a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: On 8 June 2011 08:39, Arnie Fero wrote: > Brakes? ?Don't need no steenkin' brakes. ?It's all flat between England and Nuenen. > Besides, you have the most important bits done; engine compartment and roof. ?8-)) > > See ya in a couple... ?Arnie We now have fully operational brakes.... Working on the lights tonight, loading tomorrow after a trip to the weighbridge. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 11:05:29 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 19:05:29 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 8 June 2011 18:55, Elden wrote: > Peter: > > You're a little like me, I think. > > In the early '80's, a week after putting the new Perkins 4.154 > engine in my 1950 Chevrolet, Elaine and I went on a several > thousand mile trip to the Colorado Rocky Mountains. ?Just a > little "test run" to seat the rings. ?:-) > > Have fun at Nuenen! ?I wish I could go once in my lifetime but I > don't think it's gonna happen. > > Take care - Elden It's a great show, as Arnie and the others can confirm. Try and make it, If we can get to Zolfo, you 'should' be able to make Nuenen. Most of the trailer has already been run in terms of the chassis etc as we did 300 miles running about before it came back painted, so I'm not expecting anything major :-)) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From George_Best at adp.com Wed Jun 8 12:50:03 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George (DS)) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 14:50:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Shows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F574D305B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Elden, As Peter, Arnie, and many others can confirm, the Nuenen show is one every serious engine collector should attend at least once in their life. I don't have a bucket list, but if I had a bucket list of engine shows, Nuenen would definitely be on it. Next week I get to be at another bucket list level of show by going to Coolspring for the first time. Just curious as to what other shows people think of as being world class and worth the expense to travel to? "World Class" to me are shows where you can see slide valve engines and other pre-1900 engines. I'd also include the Portland Indiana show as a world class engine show. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From rotigel at me.com Wed Jun 8 13:22:40 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:22:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Ford's Model T Factory at Dearborn, MI References: <3138BA4469BE4F80A13B4F6D3E168711@yourf1codsr2i9> Message-ID: <0DFE33C4-860D-4D1B-A2FE-540093551C75@me.com> > > Impressive footage of Ford's construction of the Model T at > Dearborn, MI. Really shows that first assembly line process at work > and all the risks implicit in it too. Later portions show Model T's > on the road and the almost incredible conditions they could rather > readily surmount. In all, a great primary historical source > document. It only takes 5 minutes and 16 seconds; but, is sure well > worth it! > > http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=S4KrIMZpwCY From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Jun 8 14:53:38 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 17:53:38 EDT Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Shows Message-ID: <4fe8e.991050.3b214962@aol.com> In a message dated 6/8/2011 3:54:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, George_Best at adp.com writes: Just curious as to what other shows people think of as being world class and worth the expense to travel to? Southeast Old Threshers Reunion, Denton, North Carolina, 5 days around the 4th of July. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From George_Best at adp.com Wed Jun 8 15:22:59 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George (DS)) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 17:22:59 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Shows In-Reply-To: <4fe8e.991050.3b214962@aol.com> References: <4fe8e.991050.3b214962@aol.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F574D386A@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Tom, I'm sure it's a fine show, but do people from other countries come to this show as their primary reason for being in this country? I've heard of the show, but really don't know anything about it. Of course Bucket List shows don't have to be world class, just being a great show is okay for people with smaller buckets ;-) I know that Nuenen, Coolspring, Portland all are destination shows where people travel great distances just to attend those shows. I think the National Rally or whatever the Aussie's call their big show would rate as a bucket list level show. I hope to visit it some year, just don't know when yet. The Rollag show is also a show that I think people should attend at least once. Although it isn't primarily an engine show, it is so big and has so much to see that you need to be there at least once. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Germoamer at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:54 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] Bucket List Shows In a message dated 6/8/2011 3:54:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, George_Best at adp.com writes: Just curious as to what other shows people think of as being world class and worth the expense to travel to? Southeast Old Threshers Reunion, Denton, North Carolina, 5 days around the 4th of July. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Jun 8 15:58:55 2011 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:58:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Shows In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F574D386A@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <80E1E4FBAA8C434ABDE61DA1BA3A741A@ckcsdb40cdd57a> George and Tom, I attend Denton every year. As far as engine shows go, there are others that are bigger, where people display more oddball stuff, etc. But, the reason my family goes there every year is because it has something for everyone. My daughter likes trains and there is a full size steam locomotive there and there is a couple miles of rail circling the show. They have steam shovels and steam cranes showing how work was done 100 years ago. They have plowing with steam traction engines and the large gas tractors. My wife loves music and there are country, gospel and other music shows with big name acts. And, there is a LOT of good food on the grounds (you can tell by looking at me that I kind of like that part of it too!). I don't know that I'd travel to Europe to see an engine show just like it. But, I don't mind driving 9 hours to attend Denton. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George (DS) Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:23 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Bucket List Shows Tom, I'm sure it's a fine show, but do people from other countries come to this show as their primary reason for being in this country? I've heard of the show, but really don't know anything about it. Of course Bucket List shows don't have to be world class, just being a great show is okay for people with smaller buckets ;-) I know that Nuenen, Coolspring, Portland all are destination shows where people travel great distances just to attend those shows. I think the National Rally or whatever the Aussie's call their big show would rate as a bucket list level show. I hope to visit it some year, just don't know when yet. The Rollag show is also a show that I think people should attend at least once. Although it isn't primarily an engine show, it is so big and has so much to see that you need to be there at least once. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Germoamer at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:54 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] Bucket List Shows In a message dated 6/8/2011 3:54:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, George_Best at adp.com writes: Just curious as to what other shows people think of as being world class and worth the expense to travel to? Southeast Old Threshers Reunion, Denton, North Carolina, 5 days around the 4th of July. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 16:49:46 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 09:49:46 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Shows In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F574D305B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: For the bucket list I would consider Nuenen, Coolsprings, Portland, 1000 Engine Rally, & an Eastern states Australian National Rally (no offense to those in the west but there are a lot more engines and collectors in the eastern states). Patrick On 9/6/11 5:50 AM, "Best, George (DS)" wrote: > Elden, > > As Peter, Arnie, and many others can confirm, the Nuenen show is one every > serious engine collector should attend at least once in their life. > > I don't have a bucket list, but if I had a bucket list of engine shows, Nuenen > would definitely be on it. > > Next week I get to be at another bucket list level of show by going to > Coolspring for the first time. > > Just curious as to what other shows people think of as being world class and > worth the expense to travel to? > > "World Class" to me are shows where you can see slide valve engines and other > pre-1900 engines. > > I'd also include the Portland Indiana show as a world class engine show. > > George > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If > the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized > representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail > and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From Jim at hardmanfamily.net Wed Jun 8 17:35:47 2011 From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net (Jim Hardman) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 20:35:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Ford's Model T Factory ... and Coolspring In-Reply-To: <0DFE33C4-860D-4D1B-A2FE-540093551C75@me.com> References: <3138BA4469BE4F80A13B4F6D3E168711@yourf1codsr2i9> <0DFE33C4-860D-4D1B-A2FE-540093551C75@me.com> Message-ID: Dave, This is a great presentation. It has been circulating, but it sure is worth watching again. What a great era. We look forward to seeing everyone at Coolspring! Tom and I will be arriving early and will check in to say hello. For anyone "on the fence", waffling about whether or not to attend, just DO IT. This is one great show, with as good a display of engines as you are likely to find. Bring your camera. Warm regards to all, Jim in Vermont ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" To: ; "Antique tractor email discussion group" ; "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:22 PM Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Ford's Model T Factory at Dearborn, MI >> Impressive footage of Ford's construction of the Model T at >> Dearborn, MI. Really shows that first assembly line process at work >> and all the risks implicit in it too. Later portions show Model T's >> on the road and the almost incredible conditions they could rather >> readily surmount. In all, a great primary historical source >> document. It only takes 5 minutes and 16 seconds; but, is sure well >> worth it! >> >> http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=S4KrIMZpwCY > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Jun 8 18:02:04 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 21:02:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] H.M. Spence start up movie References: <216875856.302961307540613267.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: That's a killer Tom! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Winland" To: "SEL list" Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:27 AM Subject: [SEL] H.M. Spence start up movie > > Here's another new toy I just got around to starting up for the first time > last night > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hld8Pnhxm1o > > Tom Winland > Ohio > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From andyglines at hotmail.com Wed Jun 8 20:46:26 2011 From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 23:46:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SIAM show Message-ID: We are looking forward to seeing everyone at the SIAM show this weekend. http://siam-club.hypermart.net/siam_013.htm Its always great to visit with old friends and make a few new ones. From frappi at wcoil.com Wed Jun 8 21:12:22 2011 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 00:12:22 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Shows In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F574D305B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad .adp.com> References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F574D305B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <20110609041239.E6C0D95FC@smtp.wcoil.com> Myself having been to both Denton NC and to Mt Pleasent IA which are similar type of shows if I had to choose just one I would go to Mt Pleasant. Not a lot of rare engines like Coolsprings but a very well rounded show but strong on Steam. Museum buildings, Full size trains, trollys and the like. Definitely a bucket list show for its type of event. But I remember the term Slide Valve Engines and the like being one of the major criteria spoken of, so Coolsprings hands down. Theres just nothing quite like Coolsprings. After that I hear Rollag is a must see from people I would trust to make that determination. I also hear Berryville W V. is a good one but have never been there myself. In my neck of the woods Findlay Ohio is a good one. Mark Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From cwja at telus.net Thu Jun 9 08:51:41 2011 From: cwja at telus.net (C. W. Jefferys Allen) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 09:51:41 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Message-ID: <4DF0EC0D.8080708@telus.net> Just to throw my two bits into the fray... I have not been able to get to Nuenen but I have been to the Panningen show near Venlo in south Holland at least fout times because of available holiday times. This show is the largest show in Europe and is a must see. Panningen takes up in Canadian measure over a section of land, three huge beer tents, sometimes up to 1200 engines and tractors, all sorts of other displays for wives and children, lots of food, ample parking, and large swap and sale area. The Pannigen show usually is the last weekend in July. Go on to the http://www.hmtklep.nl/en/ihf/ website for information. I have a Dutch wife and we come regularly to Holland to see her relatives. Jeff Allen, Alberta, Canada From George_Best at adp.com Thu Jun 9 09:06:50 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George (DS)) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:06:50 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Bucket List In-Reply-To: <4DF0EC0D.8080708@telus.net> References: <4DF0EC0D.8080708@telus.net> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F5755E42F@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> I've been to the HMT (Pannigen show) one time and agree that it is a nice show. Although given the choice between Nuenen and Pannigen, I would choose Nuenen. But then my primary interest is engines. I would like to go to the HMT show again sometime as there was a lot to see there. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of C. W. Jefferys Allen Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:52 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Just to throw my two bits into the fray... I have not been able to get to Nuenen but I have been to the Panningen show near Venlo in south Holland at least fout times because of available holiday times. This show is the largest show in Europe and is a must see. Panningen takes up in Canadian measure over a section of land, three huge beer tents, sometimes up to 1200 engines and tractors, all sorts of other displays for wives and children, lots of food, ample parking, and large swap and sale area. The Pannigen show usually is the last weekend in July. Go on to the http://www.hmtklep.nl/en/ihf/ website for information. I have a Dutch wife and we come regularly to Holland to see her relatives. Jeff Allen, Alberta, Canada _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From curt at rustyiron.com Thu Jun 9 11:30:59 2011 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:30:59 -0600 Subject: [SEL] SIAM show In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7244f43aea2b8683fb9f40f1e988bf74.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Andy, We will miss SIAM this year, as son Devin will be graduating from High School on Saturday. Devin likes SIAM so much he even suggested skipping his graduation! He will miss blacksmith CJ this year and the next 4, due to college attendance, but we will be back next year. Give our best to all and we'll be thinking of ya'll this weekend. Curt, Missy, and Devin Holland > > We are looking forward to seeing everyone at the SIAM show this weekend. > http://siam-club.hypermart.net/siam_013.htm Its always great to visit > with old friends and make a few new ones. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From curt at rustyiron.com Thu Jun 9 11:50:16 2011 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:50:16 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Shows In-Reply-To: <20110609041239.E6C0D95FC@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F574D305B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <20110609041239.E6C0D95FC@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <3edc9657c1232a095cf5c80cd905d1c2.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Mark, I echo your preference of Mt. Pleasant for several reasons. There is SO much more to see at Mt. Pleasant, especially in the way if steam. We also really enjoyed all the horse (4 legged) powered thrashing, grinding, milling demo's set up there. The car museum was phenomenal also. Lastly, at Mt. Pleasant you don't have to put up with the owner's problematic wife, who's attitude is nothing short of bi%&h. I'll never step foot in Denton again, and that sentiment is echoed by a lot of local engine folks who now refuse to attend Denton. If anyone is on the fence concerning these two show, by all means choose Mt. Pleasant. Curt Holland > > > Myself having been to both Denton NC and to Mt Pleasent IA which are > similar type of shows if I had to choose just one I would go to Mt > Pleasant. Not a lot of rare engines like Coolsprings but a very well > rounded show but strong on Steam. Museum buildings, Full size trains, > trollys and the like. Definitely a bucket list show for its type of > event. But I remember the term Slide Valve Engines and the like > being one of the major criteria spoken of, so Coolsprings hands > down. Theres just nothing quite like Coolsprings. > After that I hear Rollag is a must see from people I would trust to > make that determination. I also hear Berryville W V. is a good one > but have never been there myself. > In my neck of the woods Findlay Ohio is a good > one. Mark > > > > > > Mark Shulaw > 454 County Road 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From curt at rustyiron.com Thu Jun 9 12:35:05 2011 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:35:05 -0600 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: <4239021.1306983158438.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <4239021.1306983158438.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: > Isn't there a law on how many blue tarps your allowed to have Mike? Tim, There is indeed an ordinance in Shelby on the number of blue tarps allowed on a given property. However, given that Mike is a politician/councilman he just conveniently raises the maximum allowable number when his count of blue tarps approaches the previous maximum. Truth is, control of this ordinance was the primary reason for his entry into politics. It wasn't bad enough that there is a sea of blue tarps in the back yard, but due to his never ending devotion to engine hobby work and neglect of house maintenance, he's had to resort to a patchwork of blue tarps on various locations of his house roof. It wasn't so bad when the tarps were on the back side of the house protecting the Model T and the kitchen cabinets from drips, but when he began draping them over the top of the roof making them visible to the rest of the neighborhood the complaining began. Lately I've noticed that Mike is perfecting the art of "shingling" blue tarps, allowing him to purchase the less expensive 10 x 10 Walmart tarps, yet he can cover VERY large portions of the roof with this method. I read in the local paper that Mike's latest city council proposal to standardize the roof color of all Shelby homes to blue has not been met with much enthusiasm. Most see it as his thinly disguised attempt to avoid house work. No doubt his wife Ann is quite pleased that his roof color proposal was dead on arrival. And speaking of Ann, sadly she is the victim in the blue tarp saga. She can no longer take a shower if it is raining outside, because no amount of hot water will offset the cold rain than comes thru the roof directly over the shower. Mike keeps promising to install a blue tarp over that area too, but so far is neglecting her needs (poor choice of words-but applicable). So now you know the whole saga. Really quite sad isn't it. Curt Holland > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Mike Royster >>Sent: Jun 1, 2011 7:21 PM >>To: The SEL email discussion list >>Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side >> >>Bring a trailer full to Coolspring George, I'll help you out!!!!! >> >>MR >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Best, George (DS)" >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM >>Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side >> >> >>> On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any >>> engine buying by me for awhile. >>> >>> Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. >>> >>> Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. >>> >>> Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon >>> Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle >>> Sam >>> wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold >>> the >>> car and went into the Air Force instead. >>> >>> Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, >>> which >>> was the fastest car of my youth. >>> >>> I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been >>> calling >>> my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. >>> >>> Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the >>> past. >>> >>> This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has >>> been modified to handle the engine. >>> >>> So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild >>> my >>> money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines >>> and >>> tractors. >>> >>> George >>> >>> Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >>> addressee and may contain information that is privileged and >>> confidential. >>> If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an >>> authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby >>> notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly >>> prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please >>> notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any >>> attachments >>> from your system. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Tim Christoff > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 9 12:51:09 2011 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Shows In-Reply-To: <3edc9657c1232a095cf5c80cd905d1c2.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F574D305B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <20110609041239.E6C0D95FC@smtp.wcoil.com> <3edc9657c1232a095cf5c80cd905d1c2.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <312302.55305.qm@web112608.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I can't say anything one way or the other about the European shows, since I have not been to any but the American shows that I think that every collector should visit at least once are, in order of importance: Cool Spring, no need to say more Portland, both quality and quantity Mount Pleasant, lots of steam and gas engines Rollag, lots of Prairie tractors and the Withers Otto collection The Little Log House show at Hastings, MN, lots of permanent displays, lots of gas engines and a nice grounds. ? Of course, there are a lot of other great shows. I like Sandwich, Rock River, Freeport, Marshalltown, IA and (of course) Baraboo. For me, the best show is the one that I see the most friends at.... Joe ? Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan From George_Best at adp.com Thu Jun 9 13:06:52 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George (DS)) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 15:06:52 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: References: <4239021.1306983158438.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F575BBB29@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Curt, I thought you were going to say that Ann couldn't take showers anymore because Mike had taken the blue tarp they had been using for a shower curtain to cover one of his engines! George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of curt at rustyiron.com Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 12:35 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > Isn't there a law on how many blue tarps your allowed to have Mike? Tim, There is indeed an ordinance in Shelby on the number of blue tarps allowed on a given property. However, given that Mike is a politician/councilman he just conveniently raises the maximum allowable number when his count of blue tarps approaches the previous maximum. Truth is, control of this ordinance was the primary reason for his entry into politics. It wasn't bad enough that there is a sea of blue tarps in the back yard, but due to his never ending devotion to engine hobby work and neglect of house maintenance, he's had to resort to a patchwork of blue tarps on various locations of his house roof. It wasn't so bad when the tarps were on the back side of the house protecting the Model T and the kitchen cabinets from drips, but when he began draping them over the top of the roof making them visible to the rest of the neighborhood the complaining began. Lately I've noticed that Mike is perfecting the art of "shingling" blue tarps, allowing him to purchase the less expensive 10 x 10 Walmart tarps, yet he can cover VERY large portions of the roof with this method. I read in the local paper that Mike's latest city council proposal to standardize the roof color of all Shelby homes to blue has not been met with much enthusiasm. Most see it as his thinly disguised attempt to avoid house work. No doubt his wife Ann is quite pleased that his roof color proposal was dead on arrival. And speaking of Ann, sadly she is the victim in the blue tarp saga. She can no longer take a shower if it is raining outside, because no amount of hot water will offset the cold rain than comes thru the roof directly over the shower. Mike keeps promising to install a blue tarp over that area too, but so far is neglecting her needs (poor choice of words-but applicable). So now you know the whole saga. Really quite sad isn't it. Curt Holland > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Mike Royster >>Sent: Jun 1, 2011 7:21 PM >>To: The SEL email discussion list >>Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side >> >>Bring a trailer full to Coolspring George, I'll help you out!!!!! >> >>MR >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Best, George (DS)" >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM >>Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side >> >> >>> On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any >>> engine buying by me for awhile. >>> >>> Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. >>> >>> Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. >>> >>> Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon >>> Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle >>> Sam >>> wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold >>> the >>> car and went into the Air Force instead. >>> >>> Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, >>> which >>> was the fastest car of my youth. >>> >>> I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been >>> calling >>> my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. >>> >>> Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the >>> past. >>> >>> This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has >>> been modified to handle the engine. >>> >>> So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild >>> my >>> money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines >>> and >>> tractors. >>> >>> George >>> >>> Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >>> addressee and may contain information that is privileged and >>> confidential. >>> If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an >>> authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby >>> notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly >>> prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please >>> notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any >>> attachments >>> from your system. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Tim Christoff > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Jun 9 13:06:12 2011 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:06:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Bucket List Shows In-Reply-To: <3edc9657c1232a095cf5c80cd905d1c2.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <5B016F8DD05F4892B79A42DDFF299FFC@laruecounty.courthouse> Curt, I've been to Mt. Pleasant once and I have to agree, it's a dandy show. You won't hear me disagree with you about the Brown's wife....she's something. She railed at me once, I turned and railed twice as much back at her. I've not had a problem with her since. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of curt at rustyiron.com Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 2:50 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Bucket List Shows Mark, I echo your preference of Mt. Pleasant for several reasons. There is SO much more to see at Mt. Pleasant, especially in the way if steam. We also really enjoyed all the horse (4 legged) powered thrashing, grinding, milling demo's set up there. The car museum was phenomenal also. Lastly, at Mt. Pleasant you don't have to put up with the owner's problematic wife, who's attitude is nothing short of bi%&h. I'll never step foot in Denton again, and that sentiment is echoed by a lot of local engine folks who now refuse to attend Denton. If anyone is on the fence concerning these two show, by all means choose Mt. Pleasant. Curt Holland From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 15:28:56 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 23:28:56 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 15 April 2011 17:24, Listerdiesel wrote: Here are a few images of the beast parked outside the factory: http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished1.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished2.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished3.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished4.jpg The Ruston is loaded in the back, you can see the trolley drawbar in the picture of the back with the drawbridge hanging open on the safety chains. We leave at 5am tomorrow, will be in Holland by about 5pm local time. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From George_Best at adp.com Thu Jun 9 15:39:58 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George (DS)) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:39:58 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F575BC29D@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Peter, I must say it has been interesting watching the progress on your trailer project. I've been quite impressed with the quality of the workmanship and design. Have a great time at Nuenen! Wish I could be there. Maybe next year. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 3:29 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Cc: Stationary-Engine Subject: Re: [SEL] Trailer Update On 15 April 2011 17:24, Listerdiesel wrote: Here are a few images of the beast parked outside the factory: http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished1.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished2.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished3.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished4.jpg The Ruston is loaded in the back, you can see the trolley drawbar in the picture of the back with the drawbridge hanging open on the safety chains. We leave at 5am tomorrow, will be in Holland by about 5pm local time. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From tchristoff at earthlink.net Thu Jun 9 15:41:07 2011 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:41:07 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side Message-ID: <18667971.1307659268233.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Wow! Thanks Curt, I had no idea that it was that bad. Mike has a very serious problem and I for one am willing to help him out with this. I have plenty of good dry barn space to store many of those rusted engines thus minimizing the amount of blue tarps in his yard. Since he won't need to be buying up more walmart tarps to cover engines than he could put that money to good use on a new roof. That just might help with Ann's problem of taking a shower thus making life for Mike much more enjoyable. I shall go and see my neighbor about his 40' goose neck trailer and head out for Shelby first light. If you would like to meet up with me at his place I am sure there will be plenty of room on the trailer for a load to go to your place. Thank you for the informing us of Mike serious situation Curt. Tim -----Original Message----- >From: curt at rustyiron.com >Sent: Jun 9, 2011 2:35 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > >> Isn't there a law on how many blue tarps your allowed to have Mike? > >Tim, >There is indeed an ordinance in Shelby on the number of blue tarps allowed >on a given property. However, given that Mike is a politician/councilman >he just conveniently raises the maximum allowable number when his count of >blue tarps approaches the previous maximum. >Truth is, control of this ordinance was the primary reason for his entry >into politics. It wasn't bad enough that there is a sea of blue tarps in >the back yard, but due to his never ending devotion to engine hobby work >and neglect of house maintenance, he's had to resort to a patchwork of >blue tarps on various locations of his house roof. It wasn't so bad when >the tarps were on the back side of the house protecting the Model T and >the kitchen cabinets from drips, but when he began draping them over the >top of the roof making them visible to the rest of the neighborhood the >complaining began. Lately I've noticed that Mike is perfecting the art of >"shingling" blue tarps, allowing him to purchase the less expensive 10 x >10 Walmart tarps, yet he can cover VERY large portions of the roof with >this method. >I read in the local paper that Mike's latest city council proposal to >standardize the roof color of all Shelby homes to blue has not been met >with much enthusiasm. Most see it as his thinly disguised attempt to avoid >house work. No doubt his wife Ann is quite pleased that his roof color >proposal was dead on arrival. >And speaking of Ann, sadly she is the victim in the blue tarp saga. She >can no longer take a shower if it is raining outside, because no amount of >hot water will offset the cold rain than comes thru the roof directly over >the shower. Mike keeps promising to install a blue tarp over that area >too, but so far is neglecting her needs (poor choice of words-but >applicable). >So now you know the whole saga. Really quite sad isn't it. >Curt Holland > > > > > > > >> >> -----Original Message----- >>>From: Mike Royster >>>Sent: Jun 1, 2011 7:21 PM >>>To: The SEL email discussion list >>>Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side >>> >>>Bring a trailer full to Coolspring George, I'll help you out!!!!! >>> >>>MR >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Best, George (DS)" >>>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM >>>Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side >>> >>> >>>> On Saturday I bought something that will seriously put a stop to any >>>> engine buying by me for awhile. >>>> >>>> Didn't buy a tractor, but did buy a car. >>>> >>>> Bought a 1964 Ford Falcon. >>>> >>>> Many many years ago, back when I was in high school, I had a 64 Falcon >>>> Sprint 260V8 and 4speed. Had that car for several years until Uncle >>>> Sam >>>> wanted to give me a free trip to southeast Asia, at which time I sold >>>> the >>>> car and went into the Air Force instead. >>>> >>>> Back in my pre-married days I also had a modified 65 Comet Cyclone, >>>> which >>>> was the fastest car of my youth. >>>> >>>> I've been married 40 years now, and the cars of my youth have been >>>> calling >>>> my name and I couldn't resist buying another 64 Falcon. >>>> >>>> Although this one is much more modified than anything I've had in the >>>> past. >>>> >>>> This one has a 351V8 that has been dynoed at 425hp, and rest of car has >>>> been modified to handle the engine. >>>> >>>> So after buying this toy, it will take a looooonnnngggg time to rebuild >>>> my >>>> money account for new toys, unless I sell a few of my current engines >>>> and >>>> tractors. >>>> >>>> George >>>> >>>> Ps.... anyone want to buy an engine or two???? >>>> >>>> >>>> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >>>> addressee and may contain information that is privileged and >>>> confidential. >>>> If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an >>>> authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby >>>> notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly >>>> prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please >>>> notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any >>>> attachments >>>> from your system. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SEL mailing list >>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> Tim Christoff >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Jun 9 15:59:11 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 15:59:11 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: References: <4239021.1306983158438.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8DF4F243-2709-4A4E-A128-944A88D8EE05@rustyiron.com> On Jun 9, 2011, at 12:35 PM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote: >> Isn't there a law on how many blue tarps your allowed to have Mike? > > Tim, > There is indeed an ordinance in Shelby on the number of blue tarps allowed > on a given property. However, given that Mike is a politician/councilman > he just conveniently raises the maximum allowable number when his count of > blue tarps approaches the previous maximum. I just checked out the Casa de Royster on Google Earth. His neighbor to the east must not be a politician, but he must have one hell of an engine collection. He has only one tarp, but it's the biggest blue tarp I've ever seen. From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Jun 9 16:22:47 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:22:47 EDT Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update Message-ID: In a message dated 6/9/2011 6:34:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, listerdiesel at gmail.com writes: We leave at 5am tomorrow, will be in Holland by about 5pm local time. Have a great maiden trip Peter! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Jun 9 18:04:47 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:04:47 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: <18667971.1307659268233.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <18667971.1307659268233.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <257B3875-F76A-404D-BA55-0F7389243ECE@rustyiron.com> On Jun 9, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Tim Christoff wrote: > I have plenty of good dry barn space to store many of those rusted engines Golly, Tim. Good ol' Mike is going to have ALL his problems solved with you willing to store his engines, and me helping Ann shower. From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Jun 9 18:28:30 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 21:28:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side References: <18667971.1307659268233.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <257B3875-F76A-404D-BA55-0F7389243ECE@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: I like this thread, and even though it's my neighbor to the west with the gigantic tarp, this is very entertaining. Let's see where this goes! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > > On Jun 9, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Tim Christoff wrote: > >> I have plenty of good dry barn space to store many of those rusted >> engines > > > Golly, Tim. > Good ol' Mike is going to have ALL his problems solved with you willing to > store his engines, and me helping Ann shower. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Jun 9 22:06:39 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 22:06:39 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: References: <18667971.1307659268233.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <257B3875-F76A-404D-BA55-0F7389243ECE@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <987F083D-3A93-4181-BF5B-85599D59A1B2@rustyiron.com> On Jun 9, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Mike Royster wrote: > I like this thread, and even though it's my neighbor to the west with the > gigantic tarp, this is very entertaining. Let's see where this goes! WHAT? Your neighbor's wife also needs help in the shower? Considering the size of her tarp, we'll let Tim handle this one. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 04:16:48 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:16:48 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: <33507ED4B9D049DDAEBCD27AF8896F84@mikecomp> References: <33507ED4B9D049DDAEBCD27AF8896F84@mikecomp> Message-ID: On 10 June 2011 02:17, Mike Royster wrote: > Extremely impressive. > > MR We are about 3 hours out of Harwich, crossing the North Sea. Trailer towed fine, no big issues with handling, but we are overweight by a bit. Tracks fine behind the Discovery, only really notice the weight on hills and long inclines, but only had to drop a gear a few times. Holland should be flatter :-)) Good satellite Wi-Fi on the boat, bit slow but it's free.... Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From oldironnut at windstream.net Fri Jun 10 06:19:06 2011 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:19:06 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DF219CA.8070904@windstream.net> On 6/9/11 6:28 PM, Listerdiesel wrote: > On 15 April 2011 17:24, Listerdiesel wrote: > > Here are a few images of the beast parked outside the factory: Congrats on a beautiful job with the trailer, Peter! Enjoy! Mike From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Fri Jun 10 06:53:26 2011 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:53:26 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up In-Reply-To: <4DF219CA.8070904@windstream.net> References: <4DF219CA.8070904@windstream.net> Message-ID: G'day from saturated Montana; On our 6hp Galloway, when looking thru the flywheel spokes, they don't line up with each other. Both flywheels run fairly true and keyways and keysets line up. I'd sure hate to think I have a twisted crankshaft. Any ideas? RickinMt. From George_Best at adp.com Fri Jun 10 07:56:34 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George (DS)) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:56:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up In-Reply-To: References: <4DF219CA.8070904@windstream.net> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F57622B0A@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Several engines came from the manufacturer that way. I don't remember which ones now, but I know that on some engines that came that way. People in the know sometimes point it out to unsuspecting people and tell them they've got a twisted crankshaft as a joke. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard Strobel Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 6:53 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up G'day from saturated Montana; On our 6hp Galloway, when looking thru the flywheel spokes, they don't line up with each other. Both flywheels run fairly true and keyways and keysets line up. I'd sure hate to think I have a twisted crankshaft. Any ideas? RickinMt. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Jun 10 08:32:03 2011 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:32:03 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F57622B0A@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: Your crankshaft is definitely twisted Rick. Since its basically scrap now, I'll take it off your hands, free of charge of course. Seriously, George is right. I've seen several of the earlier makes (mostly 1910 and prior) that have misaligned spokes. I had an Otto that was way off and it was totally original. I wouldn't worry a bit if I were you. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George (DS) Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 10:57 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up Several engines came from the manufacturer that way. I don't remember which ones now, but I know that on some engines that came that way. People in the know sometimes point it out to unsuspecting people and tell them they've got a twisted crankshaft as a joke. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard Strobel Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 6:53 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up G'day from saturated Montana; On our 6hp Galloway, when looking thru the flywheel spokes, they don't line up with each other. Both flywheels run fairly true and keyways and keysets line up. I'd sure hate to think I have a twisted crankshaft. Any ideas? RickinMt. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Jun 10 09:56:18 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:56:18 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 87, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110610185327.01e60e00@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 10/06/2011, you wrote: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:51:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe Prindle Subject: Re: [SEL] Bucket List Shows For me, the best show is the one that I see the most friends at.... Joe Prindle Joe, I agree 100%. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: <[1]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> References 1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Jun 10 10:08:22 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:08:22 +0200 Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110610190131.01e64d78@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 10/06/2011, you wrote: >Message: 15 >Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 22:06:39 -0700 >From: Rob Skinner >Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > > >On Jun 9, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Mike Royster wrote: > > > I like this thread, and even though it's my neighbor to the west with the > > gigantic tarp, this is very entertaining. Let's see where this goes! > > > >WHAT? Your neighbor's wife also needs help in the shower? >Considering the size of her tarp, we'll let Tim handle this one. Hi Mike, Now I'm beginning to enjoy the thread as well - I always imagined Rob (with Kelley watching over him) as being a decent, upright, clean living young citizen only interested in cycling and old iron. Just shows that you cannot believe everything you see (or read) on the Internet !! Jerry. From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Jun 10 12:05:27 2011 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:05:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up In-Reply-To: References: <4DF219CA.8070904@windstream.net> Message-ID: <20110610190526.00C679BCE@smtp.wcoil.com> Hi Rich, Not unusual for some misalignment of spokes. Just think, in this case if the spokes line up then the key ways would not if the crank were twisted. LOL. Mark At 09:53 AM 6/10/2011, you wrote: >G'day from saturated Montana; > > On our 6hp Galloway, when looking thru the flywheel spokes, they don't >line up with each other. Both flywheels run fairly true and keyways and >keysets line up. > > I'd sure hate to think I have a twisted crankshaft. > >Any ideas? > >RickinMt. > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Jun 10 12:43:01 2011 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:43:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up In-Reply-To: <20110610190526.00C679BCE@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <6080EF3F95B5405AA3F7F0A01CA2BF48@laruecounty.courthouse> You bring up and interesting idea Mark. If the spokes don't line up then we could just twist the crankshaft so they would..... Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark Shulaw Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 3:05 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up Hi Rich, Not unusual for some misalignment of spokes. Just think, in this case if the spokes line up then the key ways would not if the crank were twisted. LOL. Mark From mr at carolina.rr.com Fri Jun 10 14:59:55 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:59:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up References: <4DF219CA.8070904@windstream.net> Message-ID: <2DAC15E5D4D247B68C0E168D8518699B@mikecomp> My 6 hp Galloway is exactly the same as yours, and original. MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Strobel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 9:53 AM Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up > G'day from saturated Montana; > > On our 6hp Galloway, when looking thru the flywheel spokes, they don't > line up with each other. Both flywheels run fairly true and keyways and > keysets line up. > > I'd sure hate to think I have a twisted crankshaft. > > Any ideas? > > RickinMt. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From tchristoff at earthlink.net Fri Jun 10 15:24:45 2011 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:24:45 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side Message-ID: <25037476.1307744685303.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Who said anything about taking care of anyones wife(s). I have one already and at times thats more than I need. My only interest is in helping poor Mike out so he can afford to fix his roof. I didn't know that Mike needed help in other areas but I'm sure he can get pills for that. Tim -----Original Message----- >From: Rob Skinner >Sent: Jun 10, 2011 12:06 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Joined The Dark Side > > >On Jun 9, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Mike Royster wrote: > >> I like this thread, and even though it's my neighbor to the west with the >> gigantic tarp, this is very entertaining. Let's see where this goes! > > > >WHAT? Your neighbor's wife also needs help in the shower? >Considering the size of her tarp, we'll let Tim handle this one. >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Jun 10 15:46:28 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:46:28 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up In-Reply-To: References: <4DF219CA.8070904@windstream.net> Message-ID: <7D13157F-2BD5-40E0-8A10-25C230AF171D@ncable.com.au> I'd say you have stuffed it right up Rick, best send it over to Oz, we could get away with it here and only you and I would know :-) Russell On 10/06/2011, at 11:53 PM, Richard Strobel wrote: > G'day from saturated Montana; > > On our 6hp Galloway, when looking thru the flywheel spokes, they don't > line up with each other. Both flywheels run fairly true and keyways and > keysets line up. > > I'd sure hate to think I have a twisted crankshaft. > > Any ideas? > > RickinMt. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Jun 10 15:47:46 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:47:46 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up In-Reply-To: <2DAC15E5D4D247B68C0E168D8518699B@mikecomp> References: <4DF219CA.8070904@windstream.net> <2DAC15E5D4D247B68C0E168D8518699B@mikecomp> Message-ID: Maybe I should have 2 of them! On 11/06/2011, at 7:59 AM, Mike Royster wrote: > My 6 hp Galloway is exactly the same as yours, and original. > > MR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Strobel" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 9:53 AM > Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up > > >> G'day from saturated Montana; >> >> On our 6hp Galloway, when looking thru the flywheel spokes, they don't >> line up with each other. Both flywheels run fairly true and keyways and >> keysets line up. >> >> I'd sure hate to think I have a twisted crankshaft. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> RickinMt. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 00:11:37 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 17:11:37 +1000 Subject: [SEL] The Austral Register June 2011 Message-ID: I have finally had a chance to update the register page with the latest numbers. It can be seen at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austreg/australreg0611web.htm Patrick Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Sun Jun 12 08:12:49 2011 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 09:12:49 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Flywheel spoke(s) line-up In-Reply-To: <4DF219CA.8070904@windstream.net> <7D13157F-2BD5-40E0-8A10-25C230AF171D@ncable.com.au> References: <4DF219CA.8070904@windstream.net> <7D13157F-2BD5-40E0-8A10-25C230AF171D@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Many thanks to all who replied and I can rest easier now. The keyways on the cs are very shallow and I can see how something could get twisted. Best Regards, RickinMt. > From rotigel at me.com Sun Jun 12 18:32:33 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:32:33 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: CERTAINLY looking GOOD Peter! Dave On Jun 9, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Listerdiesel wrote: > On 15 April 2011 17:24, Listerdiesel wrote: > > Here are a few images of the beast parked outside the factory: > > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished1.jpg > > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished2.jpg > > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished3.jpg > > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerFinished4.jpg > > The Ruston is loaded in the back, you can see the trolley drawbar in > the picture of the back with the drawbridge hanging open on the safety > chains. > > We leave at 5am tomorrow, will be in Holland by about 5pm local time. > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 05:32:20 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:32:20 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 13 June 2011 02:32, Dave Rotigel wrote: > CERTAINLY looking GOOD Peter! > ? ? ? ?Dave We are on the Ferry, just turning out from the dock, the ship turns 360 degrees in the sealane to head out across the North Sea. The trailer was fine, no mechanical issues, nothing broke, the Ruston ran for both days all day with 1kW of load. Saw Arnie there, had a couple of chats with him and also saw Jim, Andy and Helen. Takes us about 8 hours to get to the UK and another 2 hours driving to get home. I'll post some more stuff later in the week. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 04:44:57 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:44:57 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Stolen Engine Base Message-ID: Posted on "Fozzers Forum" Over the week end, 11/12 June,Stolen from Alexander Higgins and Sons,Lye near Stourbridge, The base of an Otto slide valve , Half Horse Power Gas Engine. The base has Crossley Brothers,Manchester cast into it and is finished in original green with red lining. The base was at these works for repair to broken flange /cross head guide. A substantial reward is offered for info leading to it's return. Contact John on 01935862245 or ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com. Have a look in your local scrap yard,please. John Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Jun 15 10:57:47 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:57:47 +0200 Subject: [SEL] "Off Topic" Stephanie update- good news Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110615195139.01a58d00@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi All my friends on the list, Many of you sent good wishes when Stephanie was involved in a bad car accident on the 20th May. Just an update for those of you who I have not contacted "Off List". She has had operations on both feet and ankles as well as having a steel plate inserted in her leg. That was two weeks ago and she has been confined to hospital since but today received the good news that she could go home. She will be in a wheelchair for at least 6 weeks but will be very happy to be home with her dogs. (She breeds White Swiss Shepherds (Berger Blanc Suisse) - formerly known as White German Shepherds) and has at least 20 of them. There is going to be a stampede when she arrives home :-) Her webpage, for anyone interested is <[1]www.top-dog.co.za/main.htm> She has bred more champions than any other breeder in South Africa and was on the way to another "Dog Show" when she had the accident. Thanks again to all who sent wishes and prayers - she will reply as soon as she is up to it. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: <[2]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> References 1. http://www.top-dog.co.za/main.htm 2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From andyglines at hotmail.com Thu Jun 16 03:46:09 2011 From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 06:46:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SIAM show In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > 2. Re: SIAM show (curt at rustyiron.com) > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:30:59 -0600 > From: curt at rustyiron.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] SIAM show > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Message-ID: > <7244f43aea2b8683fb9f40f1e988bf74.squirrel at www.rustyiron.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > Andy, > We will miss SIAM this year, as son Devin will be graduating from High > School on Saturday. Devin likes SIAM so much he even suggested skipping > his graduation! He will miss blacksmith CJ this year and the next 4, due > to college attendance, but we will be back next year. > Give our best to all and we'll be thinking of ya'll this weekend. > Curt, Missy, and Devin Holland I kept an eye out for you folks and was wondering where you were. Tell Devin congratulations from his friends at SIAM. Of course Arnie was missing as well with yet another weak excuse. We had a great although slightly wet weekend but it is always better when old friends can come. Doesn't Devin have summer break from college? If not He just needs to not take a Friday class in the spring term so that frees up a long weekend. We have to get this boy's priorities right! (grin) From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 05:35:20 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:35:20 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 14 June 2011 13:32, Listerdiesel wrote: > On 13 June 2011 02:32, Dave Rotigel wrote: >> CERTAINLY looking GOOD Peter! >> ? ? ? ?Dave Having had a few days to get organised, we can reflect on the show itself. Star of the show was the big Thomassen gas engine, on show in the open outside Delft University it took a year to restore and get running. Lots of other stuff as well, we took about 300 shots which we will get edited and up on the website as soon as we can. Work continues on the trailer, we have removed the shower and toilet components from the donor caravan, and will start work on installing them this coming week. We had a surprising amount of interest in the trailer, especially for the Europeans at the show who have restrictions on self-building such things. Neither of us had realised just how long it was, we had been all round it while building, but only when other people commented did we step back and have a look, and it IS a big trailer! :-)) Here's the last shot we took, at the Ferry Port in Hoeck Van Holland: http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailerHook.jpg Thanks for everyone's kind comments and suggestions, much appreciated. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jerrye at databak.co.za Sat Jun 18 11:05:11 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:05:11 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110618200008.01a3d748@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:35:20 +0100 From: Listerdiesel Subject: Re: [SEL] Trailer Update Having had a few days to get organised, we can reflect on the show itself. Work continues on the trailer, we have removed the shower and toilet components from the donor caravan, and will start work on installing them this coming week. Peter it really looks good, well done, I'm a bit concerned about the shower etc. does this mean that you and Rita just stayed "dirty" for the duration! :-) (Just Joking!!) Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: <[1]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> References 1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 11:51:31 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:51:31 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Update In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20110618200008.01a3d748@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110618200008.01a3d748@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: On 18 June 2011 19:05, Jerry Evans wrote: > ? Peter it really looks good, well done, > ? I'm a bit concerned about the shower etc. does this mean that you and > ? Rita just stayed "dirty" for the duration! :-) (Just Joking!!) > LOL! Nuenen is one of the very rare shows that provides decent facilities for the exhibitors, including hot showers. One of the reasons behind the building of the trailer was the need for such facilities while at rallies etc. We have camped before now at other rallies/shows and had a sponge down, but it ain't the same! Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From cgandree at mchsi.com Wed Jun 22 03:34:16 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 05:34:16 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator In-Reply-To: <1512203040.1951391308738758382.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <415413544.1951481308738856447.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Hi All, I have an older Briggs & Stratton Elite 5550 watt generator which starts and runs very well. Orginally purchased for power outages but now want to use it to run the power on a RV motor home. Have been told it may be too loud at some campgrounds so am looking for a way to reduce the noise level while running it. thank you in advance, Curt Andree From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Wed Jun 22 03:54:40 2011 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:54:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator References: <415413544.1951481308738856447.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <010601cc30ca$c995b360$0301a8c0@PC179134136174> Long extension cords. You won't hear it running if its a 1/4 mile away. Where is the noise coming from? Is it exhaust noise or does the engine itself generate additional noise? A quieter muffler will help the exhaust noise. For engine noise, maybe put it into a sound insulated box and use a bit of your power to drive a fan to keep the engine cool. Third option- Buy a Honda. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; "Old eng list" Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 6:34 AM Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator > Hi All, > I have an older Briggs & Stratton Elite 5550 watt generator which starts > and runs very well. Orginally purchased for power outages but now want to > use it to run the power on a RV motor home. Have been told it may be too > loud at some campgrounds so am looking for a way to reduce the noise level > while running it. > thank you in advance, > Curt Andree > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17750) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17750) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 03:58:55 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:58:55 +1000 Subject: [SEL] OT Busy Busy Message-ID: I have been a little busy of late to pay as much attention to the engine stuff as I used to. It has been a little nuts getting our house ready for sale, then a crazy few weeks during the campaign leading up to the auction. Then looking for a new house and all the craziness that goes with that (as well as wrangling a 6 month old baby). We are on the final leg of this little voyage and move into our new home at the end of next week. Then we can unpack and get back to our lives. I will finally have a proper workshop to play with engines and even have room to keep some of them at home and still be able to move. It will be great to have some engines at home again as I have been suffering withdrawal symptoms. Hopefully I will have everything out of storage and sorted out in time for the Macksville and Sydney rallies in September. See you all there :) Patrick (& Ann and Samuel) Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From cgandree at mchsi.com Wed Jun 22 04:25:31 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:25:31 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator In-Reply-To: <010601cc30ca$c995b360$0301a8c0@PC179134136174> Message-ID: <1415064871.1954551308741931044.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Rick, Thanks, I think! Honda out of the question as to available $$$$. Yes, different muffler. Looking for a source if you know? Curt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Rowlands" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:54:40 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator Long extension cords. You won't hear it running if its a 1/4 mile away. Where is the noise coming from? Is it exhaust noise or does the engine itself generate additional noise? A quieter muffler will help the exhaust noise. For engine noise, maybe put it into a sound insulated box and use a bit of your power to drive a fan to keep the engine cool. Third option- Buy a Honda. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; "Old eng list" Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 6:34 AM Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator > Hi All, > I have an older Briggs & Stratton Elite 5550 watt generator which starts > and runs very well. Orginally purchased for power outages but now want to > use it to run the power on a RV motor home. Have been told it may be too > loud at some campgrounds so am looking for a way to reduce the noise level > while running it. > thank you in advance, > Curt Andree > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17750) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17750) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Jun 22 05:44:04 2011 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 05:44:04 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Looking into getting a new truck to replace my current 1995 F250 4x4 that has 81,000 miles, and a VERY wimpy 351 that can't pull itself against a head-wind. What will not happen: NO diesel - no way, can't afford the initial cost, can't afford the maintenance, and besides, I don't pull a heavy load often or far enough to justify. Nothing against diesel, but all things being checked into, it's just not for me. otherwise, my needs/desires/wants: extended cab (not crew cab, not standard) 4x4 Gas 6 speed auto ability to tow 20' camper, self-contained (small, but still generates wind resistance and weight) ability to tow a 20' flat bed that weighs 2,000 pounds with a 3,000 or 3,400 pound car on it, and perhaps a couple engines tossed in the bed of the truck ability to tow same flatbed with 4 or 5 1/5-3hp engines loaded on. What do you guys and gals have - keeping in mind that with all the changes in trucks lately, you can't compare even a 2005 to a 2011 - things have changed in engines, HP ratings, brakes, and capacity. For example, some of the new 1/2 ton trucks will tow 10,000 pounds, 5500 with a non-load leveling hitch. For now, due to dealers, selection, price, etc I'm concentrating on Ford and Chevrolet, with the leaning on Chevrolet due to more options, warranty, etc. Thoughts????? Thanks **(price range in the 45-47K area after discounts, rebates, etc.)** From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Jun 22 06:07:39 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:07:39 EDT Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question Message-ID: <7f63.6ab5ac73.3b33431b@aol.com> In a message dated 6/22/2011 8:57:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bill at antique-engines.com writes: I'm concentrating on Ford and Chevrolet, with the leaning on Chevrolet due to more options, warranty, etc. Bill, I think they are both good vehicles and depends on whether you are a Chevy or Ford person. I lean to the Chevy and have a 2007, extended cab, 1500 series, Z71, with lots of options. Bought it second hand when 2 years old and the young woman took it back to dealer with 20,000 miles asking the dealer to purchase it back. Said her husband did not like to work and it was either work or get rid of the truck. Truck went and I understand the husband went a short time later too. It pulls the trailer great and a very nice riding vehicle. Computer says I average 16 mpg. But it also says I get 95 mpg going down hills. I just love that! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From jlb94 at juno.com Wed Jun 22 06:24:57 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:24:57 GMT Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question Message-ID: <20110622.092457.8341.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Hi Bill, This is not to be smart - but - I have a 1972 Ford F-250 with a 1977 Cab and Front-end that's rotting away again. If I could find someone to put a newer body on that ol' 72 frame and running gear, I would never give up that ol' truck. Last year I bought a 1998 Ford E-250 Yellow Box Van (Ryder Truck with 170K on it) and, although it has more room in the box, runs good (a little lame on hills and yaws a bit) and is a smoother ride - It still don't compare to the old 1972. I don't think I would ever buy a NEW (dealer fresh) truck. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: bill at antique-engines.com To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 05:44:04 -0700 Looking into getting a new truck to replace my current 1995 F250 4x4 that has 81,000 miles, and a VERY wimpy 351 that can't pull itself against a head-wind. What will not happen: NO diesel - no way, can't afford the initial cost, can't afford the maintenance, and besides, I don't pull a heavy load often or far enough to justify. Nothing against diesel, but all things being checked into, it's just not for me. otherwise, my needs/desires/wants: extended cab (not crew cab, not standard) 4x4 Gas 6 speed auto ability to tow 20' camper, self-contained (small, but still generates wind resistance and weight) ability to tow a 20' flat bed that weighs 2,000 pounds with a 3,000 or 3,400 pound car on it, and perhaps a couple engines tossed in the bed of the truck ability to tow same flatbed with 4 or 5 1/5-3hp engines loaded on. What do you guys and gals have - keeping in mind that with all the changes in trucks lately, you can't compare even a 2005 to a 2011 - things have changed in engines, HP ratings, brakes, and capacity. For example, some of the new 1/2 ton trucks will tow 10,000 pounds, 5500 with a non-load leveling hitch. For now, due to dealers, selection, price, etc I'm concentrating on Ford and Chevrolet, with the leaning on Chevrolet due to more options, warranty, etc. Thoughts????? Thanks **(price range in the 45-47K area after discounts, rebates, etc.)** _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ 57 Year Old Mom Looks 27! Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e01ed71807993055st04vuc From jlb94 at juno.com Wed Jun 22 06:27:57 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:27:57 GMT Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator Message-ID: <20110622.092757.8341.1@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Build a big wooden box, insulate it and cover the generator with it. Most campgrounds allow you to run till around 11:00 PM. But they are an annoying lot. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Rick Rowlands" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:54:40 -0400 Long extension cords. You won't hear it running if its a 1/4 mile away. Where is the noise coming from? Is it exhaust noise or does the engine itself generate additional noise? A quieter muffler will help the exhaust noise. For engine noise, maybe put it into a sound insulated box and use a bit of your power to drive a fan to keep the engine cool. Third option- Buy a Honda. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; "Old eng list" Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 6:34 AM Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator > Hi All, > I have an older Briggs & Stratton Elite 5550 watt generator which starts > and runs very well. Orginally purchased for power outages but now want to > use it to run the power on a RV motor home. Have been told it may be too > loud at some campgrounds so am looking for a way to reduce the noise level > while running it. > thank you in advance, > Curt Andree > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17750) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17750) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ President Lowers Rates Mortgage Rates Hit 2.75%. As Seen On Good Morning America http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e01ee28eb1c232d4st03vuc From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Jun 22 06:29:51 2011 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:29:51 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question In-Reply-To: <7f63.6ab5ac73.3b33431b@aol.com> References: <7f63.6ab5ac73.3b33431b@aol.com> Message-ID: <70b21ef58d83fcad3da3436531a80a43.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> I won't get into the Chevy vs. Ford thing - until I bought this 95 F250 4x4, I had only owned Chevy and Jeep trucks. It's been an ok truck save for the 2K spent on suspension and steering and brakes trying to get a brake shake out of it, and the wimp engine. Sounds like the gal should have traded her husband for the truck! ;-) Which engines is in your truck? (again, they've changed since then, but for comparison purposes) I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle and a 6.x liter engine, 6 speed auto. I've looked at the 2500 as well, am torn, but not sure I need the 2500 as you are not the first person who has said they've hauled their classic cars or old engines with a 1500 just fine. My Ford gets 10 loaded, 12-13 unloaded if that. Push it past 60-65 and watch the gas gauge drop. > > In a message dated 6/22/2011 8:57:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > bill at antique-engines.com writes: > > I'm concentrating on Ford > and Chevrolet, with the leaning on Chevrolet due to more options, > warranty, etc. > > > > Bill, > > I think they are both good vehicles and depends on whether you are a Chevy > or Ford person. I lean to the Chevy and have a 2007, extended cab, 1500 > series, Z71, with lots of options. Bought it second hand when 2 years old > and the young woman took it back to dealer with 20,000 miles asking the > dealer to purchase it back. Said her husband did not like to work and it > was > either work or get rid of the truck. Truck went and I understand the > husband > went a short time later too. It pulls the trailer great and a very nice > riding vehicle. Computer says I average 16 mpg. But it also says I get > 95 > mpg going down hills. I just love that! > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From swilliams268 at frontier.com Wed Jun 22 06:43:18 2011 From: swilliams268 at frontier.com (Steve W.) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:43:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator In-Reply-To: <415413544.1951481308738856447.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: <415413544.1951481308738856447.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <4E01F176.2060409@frontier.com> cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > Hi All, I have an older Briggs & Stratton Elite 5550 watt generator > which starts and runs very well. Orginally purchased for power > outages but now want to use it to run the power on a RV motor home. > Have been told it may be too loud at some campgrounds so am looking > for a way to reduce the noise level while running it. thank you in > advance, Curt Andree Visit a farm supply store and grab a tractor muffler for something like an 8N. Connect it up with a section of flex tubing. If that isn't quiet enough take a 5 gallon bucket and stick the exhaust into it, then add enough water to cover the pipe 3-4 inches. -- Steve W. From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Jun 22 06:49:03 2011 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:49:03 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question In-Reply-To: <20110622.092457.8341.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110622.092457.8341.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: I understand, but last year I spent on repairs only a little bit more than payments would be on new. The mileage - 10-12 is horrible compared to new, so some of the money would be made up to an extent. Safety - Ford's better idea of rear-only anti-lock brakes is just plain stupid - and dangerous. The truck can't stop a straight line. There's a shake in it that several thousand dollars could not repair - light braking is ok, moderate to heavy she'll shake your lunch out of you. A dealer and an independent shop spent a lot of time and money, thought they had it, but it's still there. Gutless 351 - it's a pain to pull my trailer with it on the hills in Eastern Iowa. Can barely keep up 65. When I went to PA, I had trouble keeping up 50-55 with it. It's rated at what, 280 some horse, where the new are closer to 400. The rust termites have finally found it - not bad really for a 16 y.o. truck of that era. You have to look to find/see it. 81,000 miles. Need the extended cab........ and look forward to better braking systems and stability. > Hi Bill, > This is not to be smart - but - I have a 1972 Ford F-250 with a 1977 Cab > and Front-end that's rotting away again. If I could find someone to put a > newer body on that ol' 72 frame and running gear, I would never give up > that ol' truck. > Last year I bought a 1998 Ford E-250 Yellow Box Van (Ryder Truck with 170K > on it) and, although it has more room in the box, runs good (a little lame > on hills and yaws a bit) and is a smoother ride - It still don't compare > to the old 1972. > I don't think I would ever buy a NEW (dealer fresh) truck. > > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time > (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. > > > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: bill at antique-engines.com > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 05:44:04 -0700 > > Looking into getting a new truck to replace my current 1995 F250 4x4 that > has 81,000 miles, and a VERY wimpy 351 that can't pull itself against a > head-wind. > > What will not happen: > NO diesel - no way, can't afford the initial cost, can't afford the > maintenance, and besides, I don't pull a heavy load often or far enough to > justify. Nothing against diesel, but all things being checked into, it's > just not for me. > > otherwise, my needs/desires/wants: > extended cab (not crew cab, not standard) > 4x4 > Gas > 6 speed auto > ability to tow 20' camper, self-contained (small, but still generates wind > resistance and weight) > ability to tow a 20' flat bed that weighs 2,000 pounds with a 3,000 or > 3,400 pound car on it, and perhaps a couple engines tossed in the bed of > the truck > ability to tow same flatbed with 4 or 5 1/5-3hp engines loaded on. > > What do you guys and gals have - keeping in mind that with all the changes > in trucks lately, you can't compare even a 2005 to a 2011 - things have > changed in engines, HP ratings, brakes, and capacity. For example, some of > the new 1/2 ton trucks will tow 10,000 pounds, 5500 with a non-load > leveling hitch. > > For now, due to dealers, selection, price, etc I'm concentrating on Ford > and Chevrolet, with the leaning on Chevrolet due to more options, > warranty, etc. > > Thoughts????? > > Thanks > > **(price range in the 45-47K area after discounts, rebates, etc.)** > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________ > 57 Year Old Mom Looks 27! > Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e01ed71807993055st04vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jlb94 at juno.com Wed Jun 22 06:49:36 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:49:36 GMT Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question Message-ID: <20110622.094936.8341.4@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Which engines is in your truck? In the 1972 there is a 360 ci. - It gets around 13 mpg In the 1998 there is a 4.2L - It gets around 13 mpg In the 1995 Buick Park Ave. there is a 3.8L Supercharged - It gets around 13 mpg. Seems 13 is my lucky number. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: bill at antique-engines.com To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:29:51 -0700 I won't get into the Chevy vs. Ford thing - until I bought this 95 F250 4x4, I had only owned Chevy and Jeep trucks. It's been an ok truck save for the 2K spent on suspension and steering and brakes trying to get a brake shake out of it, and the wimp engine. Sounds like the gal should have traded her husband for the truck! ;-) Which engines is in your truck? (again, they've changed since then, but for comparison purposes) I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle and a 6.x liter engine, 6 speed auto. I've looked at the 2500 as well, am torn, but not sure I need the 2500 as you are not the first person who has said they've hauled their classic cars or old engines with a 1500 just fine. My Ford gets 10 loaded, 12-13 unloaded if that. Push it past 60-65 and watch the gas gauge drop. > > In a message dated 6/22/2011 8:57:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > bill at antique-engines.com writes: > > I'm concentrating on Ford > and Chevrolet, with the leaning on Chevrolet due to more options, > warranty, etc. > > > > Bill, > > I think they are both good vehicles and depends on whether you are a Chevy > or Ford person. I lean to the Chevy and have a 2007, extended cab, 1500 > series, Z71, with lots of options. Bought it second hand when 2 years old > and the young woman took it back to dealer with 20,000 miles asking the > dealer to purchase it back. Said her husband did not like to work and it > was > either work or get rid of the truck. Truck went and I understand the > husband > went a short time later too. It pulls the trailer great and a very nice > riding vehicle. Computer says I average 16 mpg. But it also says I get > 95 > mpg going down hills. I just love that! > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Official Obama Website President Obama needs your help. Join his 2012 campaign now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e01f32c23bb593fst04vuc From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Jun 22 07:03:54 2011 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:03:54 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question In-Reply-To: <20110622.094936.8341.4@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110622.094936.8341.4@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <16e4842c5a0f52a1507960dea884b74a.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Mine has the 351 - I think that's about 5.7? > Which engines is in your truck? > In the 1972 there is a 360 ci. - It gets around 13 mpg > In the 1998 there is a 4.2L - It gets around 13 mpg > In the 1995 Buick Park Ave. there is a 3.8L Supercharged - It gets around > 13 mpg. > Seems 13 is my lucky number. > > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time > (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. > > > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: bill at antique-engines.com > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:29:51 -0700 > > I won't get into the Chevy vs. Ford thing - until I bought this 95 F250 > 4x4, I had only owned Chevy and Jeep trucks. It's been an ok truck save > for the 2K spent on suspension and steering and brakes trying to get a > brake shake out of it, and the wimp engine. > > Sounds like the gal should have traded her husband for the truck! ;-) > > Which engines is in your truck? (again, they've changed since then, but > for comparison purposes) > > I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle and > a 6.x liter engine, 6 speed auto. I've looked at the 2500 as well, am > torn, but not sure I need the 2500 as you are not the first person who has > said they've hauled their classic cars or old engines with a 1500 just > fine. > > My Ford gets 10 loaded, 12-13 unloaded if that. Push it past 60-65 and > watch the gas gauge drop. > >> >> In a message dated 6/22/2011 8:57:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >> bill at antique-engines.com writes: >> >> I'm concentrating on Ford >> and Chevrolet, with the leaning on Chevrolet due to more options, >> warranty, etc. >> >> >> >> Bill, >> >> I think they are both good vehicles and depends on whether you are a >> Chevy >> or Ford person. I lean to the Chevy and have a 2007, extended cab, 1500 >> series, Z71, with lots of options. Bought it second hand when 2 years >> old >> and the young woman took it back to dealer with 20,000 miles asking the >> dealer to purchase it back. Said her husband did not like to work and >> it >> was >> either work or get rid of the truck. Truck went and I understand the >> husband >> went a short time later too. It pulls the trailer great and a very >> nice >> riding vehicle. Computer says I average 16 mpg. But it also says I >> get >> 95 >> mpg going down hills. I just love that! >> >> Tom Schmutz >> Concord, Va. >> germoamer at AOL.com >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________ > Official Obama Website > President Obama needs your help. Join his 2012 campaign now. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e01f32c23bb593fst04vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From curt at rustyiron.com Wed Jun 22 08:15:12 2011 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:15:12 -0600 Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator In-Reply-To: <1415064871.1954551308741931044.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: <1415064871.1954551308741931044.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <357765621f2d09c44fd425a93f6e2a96.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Curt, I'd go to NAPA or Sears and get the least expensive oval automotive muffler you can find. I've toned down single cylinder engines this way. Maybe you could even find a decent used one being thrown away at a local muffler shop. Curt > Rick, > Thanks, I think! > Honda out of the question as to available $$$$. > Yes, different muffler. Looking for a source if you know? > Curt > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Rowlands" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:54:40 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator > > Long extension cords. You won't hear it running if its a 1/4 mile away. > > Where is the noise coming from? Is it exhaust noise or does the engine > itself generate additional noise? A quieter muffler will help the exhaust > noise. For engine noise, maybe put it into a sound insulated box and use > a > bit of your power to drive a fan to keep the engine cool. > > Third option- Buy a Honda. > > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; "Old eng list" > > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 6:34 AM > Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator > > >> Hi All, >> I have an older Briggs & Stratton Elite 5550 watt generator which starts >> and runs very well. Orginally purchased for power outages but now want >> to >> use it to run the power on a RV motor home. Have been told it may be >> too >> loud at some campgrounds so am looking for a way to reduce the noise >> level >> while running it. >> thank you in advance, >> Curt Andree >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> >> >> ======= >> Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >> (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17750) >> http://www.pctools.com/ >> ======= > > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17750) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jbcast at charter.net Wed Jun 22 11:15:17 2011 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator Message-ID: <406734d4.e6ab0.130b890395b.Webtop.49@charter.net> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Steve W. wrote: > cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: >> Hi All, I have an older Briggs & Stratton Elite 5550 watt generator >> which starts and runs very well. Orginally purchased for power >> outages but now want to use it to run the power on a RV motor home. >> Have been told it may be too loud at some campgrounds so am looking >> for a way to reduce the noise level while running it. thank you in >> advance, Curt Andree > > Check out this company below, I think they only sell to dealers, look at the $9.95 muffler. I think anyone with a tax ID # can buy. If you house the engine in a box, duct the air inlet to fresh air, hot air will be exhausted. J.B. Castagnos http://www.smallenginedistributors.net/mufflers.html From swilliams268 at frontier.com Wed Jun 22 12:11:37 2011 From: swilliams268 at frontier.com (Steve W.) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:11:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question In-Reply-To: <16e4842c5a0f52a1507960dea884b74a.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> References: <20110622.094936.8341.4@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> <16e4842c5a0f52a1507960dea884b74a.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <4E023E69.9020202@frontier.com> bill at antique-engines.com wrote: > Mine has the 351 - I think that's about 5.7? > 4.3 = 262 4.7 = 287 5.0 = 302, 305 5.3 = 324, 327 5.7 = 350, 351 6.0 = 358, 360 6.2 = 383 6.5 = 396, 400, 402, 407 7.0 = 427, 429 7.3 = 454, 460 8.1 = 490 -- Steve W. From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Jun 22 12:33:08 2011 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:33:08 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question In-Reply-To: <4E023E69.9020202@frontier.com> References: <20110622.094936.8341.4@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> <16e4842c5a0f52a1507960dea884b74a.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> <4E023E69.9020202@frontier.com> Message-ID: <8be5b18a84452ff4fd3d14d5d6e8bbd3.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Makes sense as my Javelin is a 390 (is now more like 397), my SX/4 was a 4.2 and is now a 4.0 Now I have a better handle on it when they say a truck has a 6.0 or 6.3 etc > bill at antique-engines.com wrote: >> Mine has the 351 - I think that's about 5.7? >> > > 4.3 = 262 > 4.7 = 287 > 5.0 = 302, 305 > 5.3 = 324, 327 > 5.7 = 350, 351 > 6.0 = 358, 360 > 6.2 = 383 > 6.5 = 396, 400, 402, 407 > 7.0 = 427, 429 > 7.3 = 454, 460 > 8.1 = 490 > > > -- > Steve W. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From obise at moscow.com Wed Jun 22 12:45:51 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:45:51 -0700 Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator In-Reply-To: <415413544.1951481308738856447.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: <1512203040.1951391308738758382.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> <415413544.1951481308738856447.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <3B4DD984755E44A1902863E8AFA1F105@CathyComp> -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of cgandree at mchsi.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 3:34 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; Old eng list Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator Hi All, I have an older Briggs & Stratton Elite 5550 watt generator which starts and runs very well. Orginally purchased for power outages but now want to use it to run the power on a RV motor home. Have been told it may be too loud at some campgrounds so am looking for a way to reduce the noise level while running it. thank you in advance, Curt Andree _______________________________________________ Where will the gen set be while you are running it? Out in the open? In a cargo compartment? If the latter, try lining the enclosure with glass fiber insulation, fuzzy side facing the gen set. You may want to ensure it stays in place by securing it with chicken wire, or similar. I had to do this to muffle the furnace in a rental house. It reduced the noise from an almost-unbearable roar to a barely noticeable background noise. As for exhaust noise, experiment with oversize mufflers, series, parallel, whatever. I understand about the cost of a new unit being a bit too much; but, if you can afford a Honda 2000, or similar, it would be the way to go. They can be paralleled to run A/C units; however, our 2000 can pull the smallish A/C in our RV, providing we don't have the unit idling in "Eco Mode" when we turn it on. Good luck. Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Jun 22 13:02:16 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:02:16 EDT Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question Message-ID: <3f04c.62d18669.3b33a448@aol.com> In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bill at antique-engines.com writes: I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle and a 6.x liter engine I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing button on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when engaged. I never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy load. If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want it to shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The transmissions are made to pull! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Jun 22 14:53:37 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:53:37 -0700 Subject: [SEL] How to quiet down a loud generator In-Reply-To: <357765621f2d09c44fd425a93f6e2a96.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> References: <1415064871.1954551308741931044.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> <357765621f2d09c44fd425a93f6e2a96.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <6D494233-D17B-47B8-A560-F41FD82F08E0@rustyiron.com> On Jun 22, 2011, at 8:15 AM, curt at rustyiron.com wrote: > Curt, > I'd go to NAPA or Sears and get the least expensive oval automotive > muffler you can find. I've toned down single cylinder engines this way. > Maybe you could even find a decent used one being thrown away at a local > muffler shop. > Curt Every time I hear one of those screaming lawnmower engines polluting the serenity of the wilderness, it crosses my mind that the thing could be quieted with a single round from my Glock 20. From bill at antique-engines.com Thu Jun 23 10:46:50 2011 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:46:50 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question In-Reply-To: <3f04c.62d18669.3b33a448@aol.com> References: <3f04c.62d18669.3b33a448@aol.com> Message-ID: <08583c27f99a453a2fb49b3ea830e86a.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Thanks to all who replied. From what I'm seeing and hearing, a 1/2 ton truck with the right engine and the newer 6 sp automatic, about a 3.7x ratio or so should pull a trailer load of engines, or the trailer with car loaded on. (5000-5500 pounds typical) Bill > In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > bill at antique-engines.com writes: > > I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle and > a 6.x liter engine > > > I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing button > on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when engaged. > I > never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy load. > If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want it > to > shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The > transmissions are made to pull! > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Thu Jun 23 11:09:23 2011 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (=?utf-8?B?c2x1Z2dvNTRAaG90bWFpbC5jb20=?=) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 12:09:23 -0600 Subject: [SEL] =?utf-8?q?Quieting_a_utility_generator?= Message-ID: I'm with Rob on this one. I have never seen an effective effort, though I have seen a lot of tries. I have spent more of the last five years in campgrounds than not. A big (or even small) utility generator in a campground will garner a lot of hostility. Bruce Younger Back oon my mountain... Sweet, sweet air From jlb94 at juno.com Thu Jun 23 11:08:42 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:08:42 GMT Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question Message-ID: <20110623.140842.20490.1@webmail08.vgs.untd.com> I won't get into the Ford v/s Chevy thing - but - If I EVER buy another GM product, I hope GOD strikes me dead ! Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: bill at antique-engines.com To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:46:50 -0700 Thanks to all who replied. From what I'm seeing and hearing, a 1/2 ton truck with the right engine and the newer 6 sp automatic, about a 3.7x ratio or so should pull a trailer load of engines, or the trailer with car loaded on. (5000-5500 pounds typical) Bill > In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > bill at antique-engines.com writes: > > I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle and > a 6.x liter engine > > > I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing button > on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when engaged. > I > never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy load. > If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want it > to > shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The > transmissions are made to pull! > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0381863d795ac62st06vuc From amkimmell at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 11:30:18 2011 From: amkimmell at gmail.com (Tony Kimmell) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:30:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator Message-ID: "sluggo54 at hotmail.com" wrote: >I'm with Rob on this one. I have never seen an effective effort, though I have seen a lot of tries. I have spent more of the last five years in campgrounds than not. A big (or even small) utility generator in a campground will garner a lot of hostility. > > > >Bruce Younger >Back oon my mountain... >Sweet, sweet air >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jbcast at charter.net Thu Jun 23 12:13:14 2011 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:13:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator Message-ID: <88e5fdd.f3ab5.130bdeba361.Webtop.47@charter.net> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:09 PM, sluggo54 at hotmail.com wrote: > I'm with Rob on this one. I have never seen an effective effort, > though I have seen a lot of tries. I have spent more of the last five > years in campgrounds than not. A big (or even small) utility > generator in a campground will garner a lot of hostility. > > > > Bruce Younger I find 3600 rpm machines more than twice as irritating as 1800 rpm generators. J.B. Castagnos From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Thu Jun 23 13:06:18 2011 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 16:06:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator References: <88e5fdd.f3ab5.130bdeba361.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: <000601cc31e1$045b32b0$0201a8c0@PC179134136174> This is the stationary engine list. Why not use a stationary engine to flat belt drive your generator? Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator > > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:09 PM, sluggo54 at hotmail.com wrote: > >> I'm with Rob on this one. I have never seen an effective effort, >> though I have seen a lot of tries. I have spent more of the last five >> years in campgrounds than not. A big (or even small) utility >> generator in a campground will garner a lot of hostility. >> >> >> >> Bruce Younger > > I find 3600 rpm machines more than twice as irritating as 1800 rpm > generators. > J.B. Castagnos > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17750) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17780) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Jun 23 13:20:24 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:20:24 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator In-Reply-To: <88e5fdd.f3ab5.130bdeba361.Webtop.47@charter.net> References: <88e5fdd.f3ab5.130bdeba361.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: <691E85FF-048E-49E4-8738-DD078400C4DF@rustyiron.com> On Jun 23, 2011, at 12:13 PM, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > I find 3600 rpm machines more than twice as irritating as 1800 rpm > generators. That's how I feel about my bench grinders. From marinesurveys at msn.com Thu Jun 23 14:12:46 2011 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 17:12:46 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question In-Reply-To: <20110623.140842.20490.1@webmail08.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110623.140842.20490.1@webmail08.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Amen, brother Betz I love my 2001 F-250 with the 7.3 & I get 23 MPG on the road 18 pulling a trailer Best Regards Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: jlb94 at juno.com > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:08:42 +0000 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > > I won't get into the Ford v/s Chevy thing - but - If I EVER buy another GM product, I hope GOD strikes me dead ! > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time > (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. > > > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: bill at antique-engines.com > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:46:50 -0700 > > > > Thanks to all who replied. From what I'm seeing and hearing, a 1/2 ton > truck with the right engine and the newer 6 sp automatic, about a 3.7x > ratio or so should pull a trailer load of engines, or the trailer with car > loaded on. (5000-5500 pounds typical) > > > Bill > > > > In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > bill at antique-engines.com writes: > > > > I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle and > > a 6.x liter engine > > > > > > I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing button > > on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when engaged. > > I > > never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy load. > > If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want it > > to > > shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The > > transmissions are made to pull! > > > > Tom Schmutz > > Concord, Va. > > germoamer at AOL.com > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon™ Official Site > 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0381863d795ac62st06vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From marinesurveys at msn.com Thu Jun 23 14:16:05 2011 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 17:16:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator In-Reply-To: <88e5fdd.f3ab5.130bdeba361.Webtop.47@charter.net> References: <88e5fdd.f3ab5.130bdeba361.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: The answer to a noisy gen-set, is a propane frig, candles or kerosene lights Best Regards Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:13:14 -0400 > From: jbcast at charter.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator > > > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:09 PM, sluggo54 at hotmail.com wrote: > > > I'm with Rob on this one. I have never seen an effective effort, > > though I have seen a lot of tries. I have spent more of the last five > > years in campgrounds than not. A big (or even small) utility > > generator in a campground will garner a lot of hostility. > > > > > > > > Bruce Younger > > I find 3600 rpm machines more than twice as irritating as 1800 rpm > generators. > J.B. Castagnos > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rfinksr at verizon.net Thu Jun 23 15:35:13 2011 From: rfinksr at verizon.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:35:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question References: <20110623.140842.20490.1@webmail08.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <209D9614BE394AD0885C57FA1346F6B5@computer> Joe just get a new ford and you will change your mind. I have not heard anything good about them in last 3 years. R Fink ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >I won't get into the Ford v/s Chevy thing - but - If I EVER buy another GM >product, I hope GOD strikes me dead ! > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time > (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. > > > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: bill at antique-engines.com > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:46:50 -0700 > > > > Thanks to all who replied. From what I'm seeing and hearing, a 1/2 ton > truck with the right engine and the newer 6 sp automatic, about a 3.7x > ratio or so should pull a trailer load of engines, or the trailer with car > loaded on. (5000-5500 pounds typical) > > > Bill > > >> In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >> bill at antique-engines.com writes: >> >> I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle >> and >> a 6.x liter engine >> >> >> I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing >> button >> on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when engaged. >> I >> never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy load. >> If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want it >> to >> shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The >> transmissions are made to pull! >> >> Tom Schmutz >> Concord, Va. >> germoamer at AOL.com >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon™ Official Site > 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0381863d795ac62st06vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From solarrog at pacbell.net Thu Jun 23 15:51:37 2011 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:51:37 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question In-Reply-To: <209D9614BE394AD0885C57FA1346F6B5@computer> References: <20110623.140842.20490.1@webmail08.vgs.untd.com> <209D9614BE394AD0885C57FA1346F6B5@computer> Message-ID: I have always had good luck with ford's. Now you have heard something good about them. Truth is I have all three Chevy, Ford, and Dodge Roger DiRuscio 510-226-2414 office R.E. Realty Experts 41051 Mission Blvd Fremont, Ca. 94539. NABPOP MEMBER Broker Associate # 615513 510-676-3122 cell 510-623-6979 fax REO-PRO, RDC-PRO, Equator, Resnet, & Equi-trak certified. GRI, RSD. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Fink Sr" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > > Joe just get a new ford and you will change your mind. I have not heard > anything good about them in last 3 years. > R Fink > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:08 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > > >>I won't get into the Ford v/s Chevy thing - but - If I EVER buy another >>GM >>product, I hope GOD strikes me dead ! >> >> >> Joe "Pip" Betz said that. >> jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz >> ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz >> \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time >> (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: bill at antique-engines.com >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:46:50 -0700 >> >> >> >> Thanks to all who replied. From what I'm seeing and hearing, a 1/2 ton >> truck with the right engine and the newer 6 sp automatic, about a 3.7x >> ratio or so should pull a trailer load of engines, or the trailer with >> car >> loaded on. (5000-5500 pounds typical) >> >> >> Bill >> >> >>> In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >>> bill at antique-engines.com writes: >>> >>> I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle >>> and >>> a 6.x liter engine >>> >>> >>> I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing >>> button >>> on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when >>> engaged. >>> I >>> never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy >>> load. >>> If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want >>> it >>> to >>> shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The >>> transmissions are made to pull! >>> >>> Tom Schmutz >>> Concord, Va. >>> germoamer at AOL.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Groupon™ Official Site >> 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0381863d795ac62st06vuc >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From amkimmell at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 16:05:33 2011 From: amkimmell at gmail.com (Tony Kimmell) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:05:33 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question Message-ID: They all have their good and bad points. I've had all three and have loved and hated things about each. Personally I don't think anything made in the last decade has been worth a shit. That's just my humble opinion though... -Tony Roger DiRuscio wrote: >I have always had good luck with ford's. Now you have heard something good >about them. >Truth is I have all three Chevy, Ford, and Dodge > >Roger DiRuscio 510-226-2414 office >R.E. Realty Experts 41051 Mission Blvd >Fremont, Ca. 94539. NABPOP MEMBER >Broker Associate # 615513 >510-676-3122 cell 510-623-6979 fax >REO-PRO, RDC-PRO, Equator, Resnet, >& Equi-trak certified. GRI, RSD. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Richard Fink Sr" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 3:35 PM >Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > > >> >> Joe just get a new ford and you will change your mind. I have not heard >> anything good about them in last 3 years. >> R Fink >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >> >> >>>I won't get into the Ford v/s Chevy thing - but - If I EVER buy another >>>GM >>>product, I hope GOD strikes me dead ! >>> >>> >>> Joe "Pip" Betz said that. >>> jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz >>> ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz >>> \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time >>> (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Original Message ---------- >>> From: bill at antique-engines.com >>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:46:50 -0700 >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks to all who replied. From what I'm seeing and hearing, a 1/2 ton >>> truck with the right engine and the newer 6 sp automatic, about a 3.7x >>> ratio or so should pull a trailer load of engines, or the trailer with >>> car >>> loaded on. (5000-5500 pounds typical) >>> >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>>> In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >>>> bill at antique-engines.com writes: >>>> >>>> I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle >>>> and >>>> a 6.x liter engine >>>> >>>> >>>> I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing >>>> button >>>> on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when >>>> engaged. >>>> I >>>> never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy >>>> load. >>>> If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want >>>> it >>>> to >>>> shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The >>>> transmissions are made to pull! >>>> >>>> Tom Schmutz >>>> Concord, Va. >>>> germoamer at AOL.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Groupon™ Official Site >>> 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! >>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0381863d795ac62st06vuc >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jbcast at charter.net Thu Jun 23 16:26:10 2011 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:26:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question Message-ID: <485d984d.f6b43.130bed33354.Webtop.47@charter.net> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Tony Kimmell wrote: > They all have their good and bad points. I've had all three and have > loved and hated things about each. Personally I don't think anything > made in the last decade has been worth a shit. That's just my humble > opinion though... > > -Tony > The Ford 6.0 Diesel was trouble, we had two of them fail on one trip, the first one wouldn't start in Alabama, dealer said it would take a week to fix it, borrowed a second one from a friend, blew a head gasket on the way home. Picked up the first one at the dealer, wouldn't start the next morning, had to borrow a Dodge to go get the trailer. The year before the no start 6.0 blew a turbo hose off in the mountains, reinstalled it blew off again. Made it to a dealer in NY, said he couldn't repair it for 4 days, there wa a recall with new hoses and clamps. I wrapped the silicon hose with a piece of sand paper and placed the clamp over it, gave it enough bite to make the trip. I looked up the recall when I got home, gave .6 of an hour to repair, 36 minutes. J.B. Castagnos From amkimmell at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 16:55:17 2011 From: amkimmell at gmail.com (Tony Kimmell) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:55:17 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question Message-ID: Anytime they try to improve on something that has worked fine for years,i am automatically leery. If I were buying a diesel pickup truck, I would not consider ANYTHING other than a Cummins. Medium duty engine vs light duty. Simple logic. -Tony jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > > >On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Tony Kimmell wrote: > >> They all have their good and bad points. I've had all three and have >> loved and hated things about each. Personally I don't think anything >> made in the last decade has been worth a shit. That's just my humble >> opinion though... >> >> -Tony >> > >The Ford 6.0 Diesel was trouble, we had two of them fail on one trip, >the first one wouldn't start in Alabama, dealer said it would take a >week to fix it, borrowed a second one from a friend, blew a head gasket >on the way home. Picked up the first one at the dealer, wouldn't start >the next morning, had to borrow a Dodge to go get the trailer. The year >before the no start 6.0 blew a turbo hose off in the mountains, >reinstalled it blew off again. Made it to a dealer in NY, said he >couldn't repair it for 4 days, there wa a recall with new hoses and >clamps. I wrapped the silicon hose with a piece of sand paper and placed >the clamp over it, gave it enough bite to make the trip. I looked up >the recall when I got home, gave .6 of an hour to repair, 36 minutes. >J.B. Castagnos >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From marinesurveys at msn.com Fri Jun 24 01:04:40 2011 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 04:04:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator In-Reply-To: <88e5fdd.f3ab5.130bdeba361.Webtop.47@charter.net> References: <88e5fdd.f3ab5.130bdeba361.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: The answer to a noisy gen-set, is a propane frig, candles or kerosene lights Best Regards Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:13:14 -0400 > From: jbcast at charter.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator > > > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:09 PM, sluggo54 at hotmail.com wrote: > > > I'm with Rob on this one. I have never seen an effective effort, > > though I have seen a lot of tries. I have spent more of the last five > > years in campgrounds than not. A big (or even small) utility > > generator in a campground will garner a lot of hostility. > > > > > > > > Bruce Younger > > I find 3600 rpm machines more than twice as irritating as 1800 rpm > generators. > J.B. Castagnos > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rfinksr at verizon.net Fri Jun 24 03:24:47 2011 From: rfinksr at verizon.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 06:24:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question References: <20110623.140842.20490.1@webmail08.vgs.untd.com> <209D9614BE394AD0885C57FA1346F6B5@computer> Message-ID: Right you are Rodger. I am not a newer truck owner. My old stand by a 83 F350 gave up the goast last fall. I now have a 91 f250 4x4 and am putting together a 94 F350 4x4 diesel hope to have it done for Christmas of 2012. lol R Fink ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger DiRuscio" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >I have always had good luck with ford's. Now you have heard something good > about them. > Truth is I have all three Chevy, Ford, and Dodge > > Roger DiRuscio 510-226-2414 office > R.E. Realty Experts 41051 Mission Blvd > Fremont, Ca. 94539. NABPOP MEMBER > Broker Associate # 615513 > 510-676-3122 cell 510-623-6979 fax > REO-PRO, RDC-PRO, Equator, Resnet, > & Equi-trak certified. GRI, RSD. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Fink Sr" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 3:35 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > > >> >> Joe just get a new ford and you will change your mind. I have not heard >> anything good about them in last 3 years. >> R Fink >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >> >> >>>I won't get into the Ford v/s Chevy thing - but - If I EVER buy another >>>GM >>>product, I hope GOD strikes me dead ! >>> >>> >>> Joe "Pip" Betz said that. >>> jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz >>> ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz >>> \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time >>> (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Original Message ---------- >>> From: bill at antique-engines.com >>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:46:50 -0700 >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks to all who replied. From what I'm seeing and hearing, a 1/2 ton >>> truck with the right engine and the newer 6 sp automatic, about a 3.7x >>> ratio or so should pull a trailer load of engines, or the trailer with >>> car >>> loaded on. (5000-5500 pounds typical) >>> >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>>> In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >>>> bill at antique-engines.com writes: >>>> >>>> I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle >>>> and >>>> a 6.x liter engine >>>> >>>> >>>> I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing >>>> button >>>> on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when >>>> engaged. >>>> I >>>> never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy >>>> load. >>>> If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want >>>> it >>>> to >>>> shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The >>>> transmissions are made to pull! >>>> >>>> Tom Schmutz >>>> Concord, Va. >>>> germoamer at AOL.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Groupon™ Official Site >>> 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! >>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0381863d795ac62st06vuc >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rfinksr at verizon.net Fri Jun 24 03:28:05 2011 From: rfinksr at verizon.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 06:28:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question References: Message-ID: Boy Tony i must agree with that. All the trucks that were trucks now are cars with a 5 foot box in the back.and to make it worse they are new and improved. R Fink ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Kimmell" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > They all have their good and bad points. I've had all three and have > loved and hated things about each. Personally I don't think anything made > in the last decade has been worth a shit. That's just my humble opinion > though... > > -Tony > > Roger DiRuscio wrote: > >>I have always had good luck with ford's. Now you have heard something good >>about them. >>Truth is I have all three Chevy, Ford, and Dodge >> >>Roger DiRuscio 510-226-2414 office >>R.E. Realty Experts 41051 Mission Blvd >>Fremont, Ca. 94539. NABPOP MEMBER >>Broker Associate # 615513 >>510-676-3122 cell 510-623-6979 fax >>REO-PRO, RDC-PRO, Equator, Resnet, >>& Equi-trak certified. GRI, RSD. >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Richard Fink Sr" >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 3:35 PM >>Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >> >> >>> >>> Joe just get a new ford and you will change your mind. I have not heard >>> anything good about them in last 3 years. >>> R Fink >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: >>> To: >>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:08 PM >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >>> >>> >>>>I won't get into the Ford v/s Chevy thing - but - If I EVER buy another >>>>GM >>>>product, I hope GOD strikes me dead ! >>>> >>>> >>>> Joe "Pip" Betz said that. >>>> jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz >>>> ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz >>>> \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time >>>> (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Original Message ---------- >>>> From: bill at antique-engines.com >>>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:46:50 -0700 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks to all who replied. From what I'm seeing and hearing, a 1/2 ton >>>> truck with the right engine and the newer 6 sp automatic, about a 3.7x >>>> ratio or so should pull a trailer load of engines, or the trailer with >>>> car >>>> loaded on. (5000-5500 pounds typical) >>>> >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> >>>> >>>>> In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >>>>> bill at antique-engines.com writes: >>>>> >>>>> I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle >>>>> and >>>>> a 6.x liter engine >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing >>>>> button >>>>> on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when >>>>> engaged. >>>>> I >>>>> never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy >>>>> load. >>>>> If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want >>>>> it >>>>> to >>>>> shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The >>>>> transmissions are made to pull! >>>>> >>>>> Tom Schmutz >>>>> Concord, Va. >>>>> germoamer at AOL.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SEL mailing list >>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> Groupon™ Official Site >>>> 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! >>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0381863d795ac62st06vuc >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From wboldrusty70 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 14:23:43 2011 From: wboldrusty70 at gmail.com (William Burg) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 07:23:43 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator In-Reply-To: References: <88e5fdd.f3ab5.130bdeba361.Webtop.47@charter.net> Message-ID: But how do I run my television? Willie. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:04 PM, frank skinner wrote: > > > > The answer to a noisy gen-set, is a propane frig, candles or kerosene > lights > > Best Regards > > Franklin S. Skinner > Marine Surveyor & Consultant > 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 > 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West > PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:13:14 -0400 > > From: jbcast at charter.net > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:09 PM, sluggo54 at hotmail.com wrote: > > > > > I'm with Rob on this one. I have never seen an effective effort, > > > though I have seen a lot of tries. I have spent more of the last five > > > years in campgrounds than not. A big (or even small) utility > > > generator in a campground will garner a lot of hostility. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce Younger > > > > I find 3600 rpm machines more than twice as irritating as 1800 rpm > > generators. > > J.B. Castagnos > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jlb94 at juno.com Sat Jun 25 18:59:11 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 01:59:11 GMT Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question Message-ID: <20110625.215911.24023.2@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> I'm sure you're right, Rich. I don't believe I will ever buy a new truck. The last "new" truck I bought was in 1972. I ordered it with "No Power Options" - No power steering - power windows - Brakes - nothing power. And - I would do it again if I were to buy a new truck. But, probably wouldn't be able to. On the subject of trucks - - - I was coming home tonight from Moundsville, WV using I-70. Coming East, out of WV, there is this long hill with a truck lane to the right. I was in that lane and hit a terribly deep pothole. It got me swearing like a drunk sailor. Not bad enough, I hit another as I passed Cabellas' entrance. Then - - - I smelled burning clutch? - Transmission?. Then my steering started getting stiff. Oh no ! It was ME BURNING !!! I stopped to check, opened the hood and there was power steering fluid ALL OVER the engine compartment !!! Further exam revealed a broken Power Steering Cooler just behind the grill. I can only guess that the slam of the pothole on the steering, caused enough force to break this little radiator. If anyone travels I-70 - Be Aware ! Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Richard Fink Sr" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:35:13 -0400 Joe just get a new ford and you will change your mind. I have not heard anything good about them in last 3 years. R Fink ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >I won't get into the Ford v/s Chevy thing - but - If I EVER buy another GM >product, I hope GOD strikes me dead ! > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time > (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. > > > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: bill at antique-engines.com > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:46:50 -0700 > > > > Thanks to all who replied. From what I'm seeing and hearing, a 1/2 ton > truck with the right engine and the newer 6 sp automatic, about a 3.7x > ratio or so should pull a trailer load of engines, or the trailer with car > loaded on. (5000-5500 pounds typical) > > > Bill > > >> In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >> bill at antique-engines.com writes: >> >> I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle >> and >> a 6.x liter engine >> >> >> I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing >> button >> on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when engaged. >> I >> never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy load. >> If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want it >> to >> shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The >> transmissions are made to pull! >> >> Tom Schmutz >> Concord, Va. >> germoamer at AOL.com >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon™ Official Site > 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0381863d795ac62st06vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jlb94 at juno.com Sat Jun 25 19:01:25 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:01:25 GMT Subject: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator Message-ID: <20110625.220125.24023.3@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> I find 3600 rpm machines more than twice as irritating as 1800 rpm generators. = = = = = = = = = How about those "oiless air compressors" ? They have to be the most annoying thing ever. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Rob Skinner To: The SEL email discussion list Cc: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:20:24 -0700 On Jun 23, 2011, at 12:13 PM, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > I find 3600 rpm machines more than twice as irritating as 1800 rpm > generators. That's how I feel about my bench grinders. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e069345500447bb09st01vuc From plowe at exemail.com.au Sat Jun 25 23:32:14 2011 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 16:32:14 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Belliss & Morcom and Parker Steam Engines Message-ID: <811E1920E75F4396BE294B531D9E9A80@peterlowe> Hi Guys Are there any steam museums in Oz, UK or USA that have Belliss & Morcom and Parker steam engines on display. I have a number of books and drawings from Harwood Sugar Mill that were going to be thrown out, I have had these for many years but they are of no real use to me. I thought about giving it to one of the small museums in Brisbane until I saw all their literature piled into an old wardrobe full of silver fish. I thought about selling them on Ebay, but a generous streak appeared in my nature today and I would like them to go to a good home that will have a use for them and look after them. SO, those who are genuinely interested, (not just those literature bowerbirds (if you want to know what a bowerbird is, GOOGLE it ;-))) and would like them, contact me OFF LIST that means you click here on my email address if you do not know how to reply to me OFF LIST. plowe at exemail.com.au replies to the LISTS will not be answered. I also have some photos of the various book covers. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines From marinesurveys at msn.com Sat Jun 25 23:48:24 2011 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:48:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator In-Reply-To: <20110625.220125.24023.3@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110625.220125.24023.3@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: And the worst part of the "oiless air compressors" , at least what the Devilbitch guy told me was the service life of the piston, teflon ring, and cylinder is 75 hours. Best Regards Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: jlb94 at juno.com > Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:01:25 +0000 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator > > I find 3600 rpm machines more than twice as irritating as 1800 rpm > generators. > = = = = = = = = = > How about those "oiless air compressors" ? They have to be the most annoying thing ever. > > > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time > (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. > > > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Rob Skinner > To: The SEL email discussion list > Cc: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Quieting a utility generator > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:20:24 -0700 > > On Jun 23, 2011, at 12:13 PM, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > I find 3600 rpm machines more than twice as irritating as 1800 rpm > > generators. > > That's how I feel about my bench grinders. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon™ Official Site > 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e069345500447bb09st01vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Sun Jun 26 04:48:37 2011 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:48:37 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Items for sale Message-ID: <7F5D7FBB4BBA426B80DF8E58C43C237F@PeterPC> Hi guys More for our local Aussies, I have some gear for sale and more to come. http://shop.ebay.com.au/oz-engines/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Australia From jneth3 at mac.com Sun Jun 26 12:44:49 2011 From: jneth3 at mac.com (John Neth) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 15:44:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - truck question In-Reply-To: <20110625.215911.24023.2@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110625.215911.24023.2@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <95CFF34D-9CC9-443B-91ED-0670387C1FE4@mac.com> To Tom Tow switch helps in hilly areas, not so much for pulling but shifting between gears. In upper east Tennessee the hills and 35 to 45 mph speeds have the truck shifting all the time. Just replaced the transmission in my dads 1992 F150. He was not gentle with it and the shifting klunked when it down shifted. Highway I use the overdrive. 2002 Suburban has 240000 on it and same trans. Lot of heavy pulling but at highway speeds , little shifting. Just my experience. If I lived in flat land would never shift into tow/haul. John Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2011, at 9:59 PM, "jlb94 at juno.com" wrote: > I'm sure you're right, Rich. > I don't believe I will ever buy a new truck. > The last "new" truck I bought was in 1972. I ordered it with "No Power Options" - No power steering - power windows - Brakes - nothing power. And - I would do it again if I were to buy a new truck. But, probably wouldn't be able to. > On the subject of trucks - - - I was coming home tonight from Moundsville, WV using I-70. > Coming East, out of WV, there is this long hill with a truck lane to the right. I was in that lane and hit a terribly deep pothole. It got me swearing like a drunk sailor. Not bad enough, I hit another as I passed Cabellas' entrance. Then - - - I smelled burning clutch? - Transmission?. Then my steering started getting stiff. Oh no ! It was ME BURNING !!! I stopped to check, opened the hood and there was power steering fluid ALL OVER the engine compartment !!! > Further exam revealed a broken Power Steering Cooler just behind the grill. I can only guess that the slam of the pothole on the steering, caused enough force to break this little radiator. > If anyone travels I-70 - Be Aware ! > > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time > (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. > > > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: "Richard Fink Sr" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:35:13 -0400 > > > > Joe just get a new ford and you will change your mind. I have not heard > anything good about them in last 3 years. > R Fink > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:08 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question > > >> I won't get into the Ford v/s Chevy thing - but - If I EVER buy another GM >> product, I hope GOD strikes me dead ! >> >> >> Joe "Pip" Betz said that. >> jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz >> ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz >> \/)"(\/ Pittsburgh - Half the time it's cold - Half the time >> (_0_) it's hot - And the other half, It's just miserable. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: bill at antique-engines.com >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - truck question >> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:46:50 -0700 >> >> >> >> Thanks to all who replied. From what I'm seeing and hearing, a 1/2 ton >> truck with the right engine and the newer 6 sp automatic, about a 3.7x >> ratio or so should pull a trailer load of engines, or the trailer with car >> loaded on. (5000-5500 pounds typical) >> >> >> Bill >> >> >>> In a message dated 6/22/2011 9:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >>> bill at antique-engines.com writes: >>> >>> I'm looking at a Chevrolet 1500, pretty loaded with heavy towing axle >>> and >>> a 6.x liter engine >>> >>> >>> I think that is what mine is. Came with towing package and towing >>> button >>> on the end of turn signal stem. Keeps it out of overdrive when engaged. >>> I >>> never use it and think it is only useful when having a great heavy load. >>> If I am traveling down the main highways and not a heavy load, I want it >>> to >>> shift into overdrive. Transmission buddy said to not use it. The >>> transmissions are made to pull! >>> >>> Tom Schmutz >>> Concord, Va. >>> germoamer at AOL.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Groupon™ Official Site >> 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e0381863d795ac62st06vuc >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 13:22:54 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:22:54 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2011 Show Pictures Message-ID: Sorry we are bit late with these, but had to sort out captions and check serial numbers and ratings: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2011/Nuenen2011Menu1.htm or: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2011/Nuenen2011Menu1.htm There are 204 pictures with 7 menu pages, they are all interlinked at the bottom of each menu page as usual, but there is NO main menu link yet, I'll get that done in the week. Let me know of any errors or omissions please. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 23:40:41 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:40:41 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2011 Show Pictures In-Reply-To: <2B96011DE62447EA94464FFCD5A1144B@CathyComp> References: <2B96011DE62447EA94464FFCD5A1144B@CathyComp> Message-ID: On 27 June 2011 00:36, Orrin B Iseminger wrote: > Outstanding, Peter! ?Excellent photography. ?Thank you for posting your > travelogue and photographs. ?They were the next best thing to being there. > > I encountered a couple of 404 Not Found links on the middle of page 4. > > Best regards, > > Orrin Thanks, Orrin, looks like Oldengine had some missing pages, but all corrected now. It's always worth checking the mirror sire at stationary-engine.co.uk as they both should carry the same information. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue Jun 28 07:41:12 2011 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:41:12 +0100 Subject: [SEL] 1000 Engine Rally 2011 Photo,s Message-ID: <54CD3207DB2243A5B15A73326A31A754@BTDAVEPC> I didn't have the time to record the details but here is about 100 pictures of the engines that interested me. Saturday was cloudy with showers but Sunday was roasting! See http://good-times.webshots.com/album/580393198ZtwNta Dave Croft http://oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Jun 28 08:00:10 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:00:10 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 1000 Engine Rally 2011 Photo,s In-Reply-To: <54CD3207DB2243A5B15A73326A31A754@BTDAVEPC> References: <54CD3207DB2243A5B15A73326A31A754@BTDAVEPC> Message-ID: <6ab9b4872468997d0466ae83e100f925.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Nice job Dave. Thanks!! On Tue, June 28, 2011 10:41 am, Dave Croft wrote: > I didn't have the time to record the details but here is about 100 pictures of the > engines that interested me. > Saturday was cloudy with showers but Sunday was roasting! > See http://good-times.webshots.com/album/580393198ZtwNta From oldironnut at windstream.net Tue Jun 28 09:27:11 2011 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:27:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 1000 Engine Rally 2011 Photo,s In-Reply-To: <54CD3207DB2243A5B15A73326A31A754@BTDAVEPC> References: <54CD3207DB2243A5B15A73326A31A754@BTDAVEPC> Message-ID: <7F939389-34B9-4A78-A6EA-FADE0725826B@windstream.net> Thanks, Dave, great photos! I especially liked the engine in SAM_0229 (page 8)... what's the brand name and HP for that critter? Thanks, Mike On Jun 28, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Dave Croft wrote: > I didn't have the time to record the details but here is about 100 pictures of the engines that interested me. > Saturday was cloudy with showers but Sunday was roasting! > See http://good-times.webshots.com/album/580393198ZtwNta > Dave Croft > http://oldengine.org/members/croft/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ______________________ Michael Tucker oldironnut at windstream.net Versailles, Kentucky, USA ______________________ From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue Jun 28 14:19:27 2011 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:19:27 +0100 Subject: [SEL] 1000 Engine Rally 2011 Photo,s In-Reply-To: <7F939389-34B9-4A78-A6EA-FADE0725826B@windstream.net> References: <54CD3207DB2243A5B15A73326A31A754@BTDAVEPC> <7F939389-34B9-4A78-A6EA-FADE0725826B@windstream.net> Message-ID: From: "Michael Tucker" Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 5:27 PM To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] 1000 Engine Rally 2011 Photo,s > Thanks, Dave, great photos! I especially liked the engine in SAM_0229 > (page 8)... what's the brand name and HP for that critter? > > Thanks, > Mike > > On Jun 28, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Dave Croft wrote: > >> I didn't have the time to record the details but here is about 100 >> pictures of the engines that interested me. >> Saturday was cloudy with showers but Sunday was roasting! >> See http://good-times.webshots.com/album/580393198ZtwNta >> Dave Croft >> http://oldengine.org/members/croft/ >> http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > Michael Tucker > oldironnut at windstream.net > Versailles, Kentucky, USA Hi Michael, The engine is a Dutch Engine Brouhot & Co owned by a friend of 25 years, Kees Fitters... A web page about Kees and Dutch shows are at the address below. http://home.kpn.nl/antonvandercruijsen/expl.kees.htm The later years seem to have disappeared but good rare engines are shown! see http://image90.webshots.com/90/0/15/69/2692015690028520097mYUZxo_fs.jpg Dave Croft From obise at moscow.com Tue Jun 28 16:48:35 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:48:35 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Spam> RE: 1000 Engine Rally 2011 Photo,s In-Reply-To: <54CD3207DB2243A5B15A73326A31A754@BTDAVEPC> References: <54CD3207DB2243A5B15A73326A31A754@BTDAVEPC> Message-ID: <460D0B9DE33A4F06BD46C3CDFF5E2402@CathyComp> -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave Croft Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:41 AM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] 1000 Engine Rally 2011 Photo,s I didn't have the time to record the details but here is about 100 pictures of the engines that interested me. Saturday was cloudy with showers but Sunday was roasting! See http://good-times.webshots.com/album/580393198ZtwNta Dave Croft http://oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thank you, Dave! The pictures are great. I especially enjoy your rally pictures because you make sure to include the hot air engines. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 23:54:29 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 07:54:29 +0100 Subject: [SEL] 1000 Engine Rally 2011 Photo,s In-Reply-To: References: <54CD3207DB2243A5B15A73326A31A754@BTDAVEPC> <7F939389-34B9-4A78-A6EA-FADE0725826B@windstream.net> Message-ID: On 28 June 2011 22:19, Dave Croft wrote: > The later years seem to have disappeared > > Dave Croft Dave: Look here: http://home.kpn.nl/antonvandercruijsen/jaren.htm Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From eric at facspro.com Wed Jun 29 06:57:01 2011 From: eric at facspro.com (Eric Walter) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 08:57:01 -0500 Subject: [SEL] My quest continues Message-ID: If anyone comes across or knows of a JD Type E that is fired with a Buzz coil / Spark plug setup please take a picture of the timing mechanism for me. I have been unable to find anything on this type setup and would dearly like to get it running. I've rigged it up with several different configurations but just cant seem to get it to fire at the right time. Thanks Eric Walter From frappi at wcoil.com Wed Jun 29 10:06:45 2011 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:06:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] My quest continues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20110629170620.AE50C9498@smtp.wcoil.com> Eric, Give me a call, worked on a few of these. Theres not much to see "externally" on a factory original set up just a contact clamped on the push rod and a insulated contact off a bracket bolted to where the mag would normally set. As for timing just make the contacts connect at about 1/4" Before Top Dead Center of the compression stroke. Thats all there really is to it. Now if you are converting a magneto engine to spark plug ignition there are several changes that needs to be made. The most important being the cam. Thats to make it run right, without building specific pieces to work in certain ways. Mark At 09:57 AM 6/29/2011, you wrote: > If anyone comes across or knows of a JD Type E that is fired with > a Buzz coil / Spark plug setup please take a picture of the timing > mechanism for me. > I have been unable to find anything on this type setup and would > dearly like to get it running. I've rigged it up with several > different configurations but just cant seem to get it to fire at > the right time. > > >Thanks >Eric Walter > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com