From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 10:48:19 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:48:19 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Models at Nuenen
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=V3RPu-KNRc7i+RW4+0sWMt+79HQ@mail.gmail.com>

Here is a selection of a few of the very nice models at the show:

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Nuenen2011Mod1.jpg

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Nuenen2011Mod2.jpg

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Nuenen2011Mod3.jpg

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Nuenen2011Mod4.jpg

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Nuenen2011Mod5.jpg

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Nuenen2011Mod6.jpg

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Nuenen2011Mod7.jpg

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Nuenen2011Mod9.jpg


Peter

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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 12:37:36 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 20:37:36 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Models at Nuenen
In-Reply-To: <AJEFJOBJBOCDALIDIPGHGEMBCHAA.edurand@fairpoint.net>
References: <BANLkTi=V3RPu-KNRc7i+RW4+0sWMt+79HQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AJEFJOBJBOCDALIDIPGHGEMBCHAA.edurand@fairpoint.net>
Message-ID: <BANLkTikLFXbgkN2XT-RiSxUDM-ehS-BFtg@mail.gmail.com>

On 1 July 2011 20:33, Elden <edurand at fairpoint.net> wrote:
> Peter:
>
> Does the Diesel Patent engine run? ?Does it use air blast
> injection?
>
> Take care - Elden

Elden:

I did not see it run at the show, it seems to have everything needed
for it to run though.

I will ask Anton to see if he can find out more about it.

Peter
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From avanti_64 at juno.com  Fri Jul  1 16:35:11 2011
From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 23:35:11 GMT
Subject: [SEL] Models at Nuenen
Message-ID: <20110701.193511.22601.0@webmail21.vgs.untd.com>

Thanks, those are superb models!
Joe


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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 22:40:42 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 06:40:42 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Models at Nuenen
In-Reply-To: <AJEFJOBJBOCDALIDIPGHGEMBCHAA.edurand@fairpoint.net>
References: <BANLkTi=V3RPu-KNRc7i+RW4+0sWMt+79HQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AJEFJOBJBOCDALIDIPGHGEMBCHAA.edurand@fairpoint.net>
Message-ID: <BANLkTik9PfZEwhhckmeGnOW+3fqa9byVHA@mail.gmail.com>

On 1 July 2011 20:33, Elden <edurand at fairpoint.net> wrote:
> Peter:
>
> Does the Diesel Patent engine run? ?Does it use air blast
> injection?
>
> Take care - Elden

Had this reply back from Anton:

"The Diesel model engine is a running engine, I must ask Johan van der
Zanten, the modelmaker, if he use air-blast, I have no idea."

Peter
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From Germoamer at aol.com  Sat Jul  2 06:46:42 2011
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 09:46:42 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Models at Nuenen
Message-ID: <99114.5b6bba1f.3b407b42@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/1/11 1:57:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
listerdiesel at gmail.com writes:

<< Here is a selection of a few of the very nice models at the show: >>

Peter,

Sure are a lot of very talented people in the world.

Thanks,

Tom Schmutz</HTML>


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Jul  2 14:32:15 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 22:32:15 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Models at Nuenen
In-Reply-To: <AJEFJOBJBOCDALIDIPGHGEMBCHAA.edurand@fairpoint.net>
References: <BANLkTi=V3RPu-KNRc7i+RW4+0sWMt+79HQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AJEFJOBJBOCDALIDIPGHGEMBCHAA.edurand@fairpoint.net>
Message-ID: <BANLkTinC4JG-dDasPgGE_WKUApVmGLt0Pg@mail.gmail.com>

On 1 July 2011 20:33, Elden <edurand at fairpoint.net> wrote:
> Peter:
>
> Does the Diesel Patent engine run? ?Does it use air blast
> injection?
>
> Take care - Elden

Here is the reply from the engine maker:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi Peter,

Thanks for visiting my table at the Nuenen show.
I understood you have some questions about my Diesel replica.
It is a running engine indeed and it's a pity you did not actually see it
running because I demonstrated the engine several times during the day.
I have experimented with air blast injection but found it impossible to keep
the air pump in good condition.
Due leaking valves it exploded 2 times.  I use now solid injection. I
actuate the plunger with a solenoid. This gives a very fast injection. I use
the engine driven compressor to fill a small bottle with 10 Bar of air
pressure to start the engine.
This only works with a warm engine. When cold I have to crank.
A few years ago I wrote a small article fot the Model-Engineer magazine.
Perhaps it's of interest to you.

Kind regards,

Johan van Zanten.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Peter
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sun Jul  3 03:18:10 2011
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 20:18:10 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Fw: R-and-V-Engine-Information
Message-ID: <3746920042AA48B8ABC97C504DB079BD@PeterPC>

While I tighten the chain on Dave, Arnie, Rob and others, this guy below has 
asked me a question. Honest answers please guys.
Peter

I was going to use a Maytag 92 for mixing ice cream and didn't want all the 
smoke
either.  How do you think it would work to use a synthetic 2 cycle oil in
the 92.  I know in jet skis and the like they smoke less than regular 2
cycle. But the bottom line is I don't want to hurt my engine it is in good
shape. Any recommendations on type and ratio for what I am doing would be
helpful I will be turning a 2 gallon freezer.

Thanks so much
Bill Bramley
Cylinder, Ia







From rotigel at me.com  Sun Jul  3 04:31:32 2011
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 07:31:32 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Fw: R-and-V-Engine-Information
In-Reply-To: <3746920042AA48B8ABC97C504DB079BD@PeterPC>
References: <3746920042AA48B8ABC97C504DB079BD@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <CA1DAFE4-D286-4FA6-8457-38BD9E7F5130@me.com>

Now the MAYTAG 92 is an R-and V engine????? In any event, I've found that if you simply keep thinning the amt. of oil you use there will come s point where you know you have reached the "proper" mixture!
	Dave
PS, I sure hope that Bill has a VERY strong right leg if he likes ice cream!
PPS, Please tell Bill it's NOT an engine--it's a MOTOR!

On Jul 3, 2011, at 6:18 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:

> While I tighten the chain on Dave, Arnie, Rob and others, this guy below has 
> asked me a question. Honest answers please guys.
> Peter
> 
> I was going to use a Maytag 92 for mixing ice cream and didn't want all the 
> smoke
> either.  How do you think it would work to use a synthetic 2 cycle oil in
> the 92.  I know in jet skis and the like they smoke less than regular 2
> cycle. But the bottom line is I don't want to hurt my engine it is in good
> shape. Any recommendations on type and ratio for what I am doing would be
> helpful I will be turning a 2 gallon freezer.
> 
> Thanks so much
> Bill Bramley
> Cylinder, Ia


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sun Jul  3 07:39:04 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 10:39:04 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Fw: R-and-V-Engine-Information
In-Reply-To: <3746920042AA48B8ABC97C504DB079BD@PeterPC>
References: <3746920042AA48B8ABC97C504DB079BD@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <cb2cdc61923954baf893f8b9e1e3d647.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Awwww, that's just TOO easy...  8-))

On Sun, July 3, 2011 6:18 am, Peter Lowe wrote:
> While I tighten the chain on Dave, Arnie, Rob and others, this guy below has
> asked me a question. Honest answers please guys.
> Peter
>
> I was going to use a Maytag 92 for mixing ice cream and didn't want all the
> smoke
> either.  How do you think it would work to use a synthetic 2 cycle oil in
> the 92.  I know in jet skis and the like they smoke less than regular 2
> cycle. But the bottom line is I don't want to hurt my engine it is in good
> shape. Any recommendations on type and ratio for what I am doing would be
> helpful I will be turning a 2 gallon freezer.





From swebre at hotmail.com  Sun Jul  3 10:05:35 2011
From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 17:05:35 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Maytag Oil/fuel ratio
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1309708802.29374.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
References: <mailman.0.1309708802.29374.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <SNT125-W1826269E6A9FAE70C2FBA8DB5D0@phx.gbl>


Bill,  Based on my experience w/ older 2-cycles, I think a Maytag 92 should be able to safely run above 100:1 and perhaps 150+:1 ratios w/ modern high grade oils.    Keep in mind when talking about jet skis and modern outboards, you are talking about water cooled engines that need protection at WOT ranges of 6000 rpm+.  Thus the conservative ratios of 25-50:1 ratios when batch mixing.  These oil rich ratios are basically cheap insurance for sustained high speed, full load operation knowing that they will smoke like crazy at slow speeds.   But going slowly is not their mission.... And modern oil injected outboards are reported to be programed for 200-250:1 ratios @ idle speeds and richen up towards 50:1 at WOT above 4000 rpm.     Since your 92 is turning at roughly idle speeds compared to a modern 2 cycle and under much less stress, I'd pick a name brand (Yamaha, Honda, etc) oil for a 2-cycle air-cooled motorcycle and start at 100:1 ratio.  If still too smokey, I'd try 150:1 and so on.  A hand held infrared temp gauge shot towards the cylinders and main bearings will be very helpful to watch trends.   Just remember that leaning the mixture will raise the temp much more than small changes in the oil ratio so try to be consistant as you experiment.   Good luck! 
-Steve- 
  
I was going to use a Maytag 92 for mixing ice cream and didn't want all the 
smoke
either.  How do you think it would work to use a synthetic 2 cycle oil in
the 92.  I know in jet skis and the like they smoke less than regular 2
cycle. But the bottom line is I don't want to hurt my engine it is in good
shape. Any recommendations on type and ratio for what I am doing would be
helpful I will be turning a 2 gallon freezer.
 
Thanks so much
Bill Bramley
Cylinder, Ia
 
 		 	   		  

From plowe at exemail.com.au  Mon Jul  4 04:06:59 2011
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 21:06:59 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aust Post price increase
Message-ID: <C572B87F694947B0ABF56DC9DED9786E@PeterPC>

Hi guys in Oz

Australia Post has increased parcel postage as from today, Monday, so be aware if selling on Ebay etc.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia

From russell at ncable.com.au  Mon Jul  4 05:31:54 2011
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:31:54 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aust Post price increase
In-Reply-To: <C572B87F694947B0ABF56DC9DED9786E@PeterPC>
References: <C572B87F694947B0ABF56DC9DED9786E@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <4D73CE48-5253-422C-AF3E-19D3FA4B8CA9@ncable.com.au>

I just sent some parts I had cast to New Zealand. 3kg box cost over 50 bucks! Bull shit really but what do you do!


On 04/07/2011, at 9:06 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:

> Hi guys in Oz
> 
> Australia Post has increased parcel postage as from today, Monday, so be aware if selling on Ebay etc.
> 
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 05:47:55 2011
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 22:47:55 +1000
Subject: [SEL] OT New Home
Message-ID: <CA3A969B.8665%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

We are finally in our new home which is in Earlwood (still in Sydney). We
made the big move last weekend and are now busily unpacking. I plan to bring
some engines home soon to cure the chronic engine withdrawal I have been
suffering.
It is nice to have a lot more room for the family and to have an all weather
workshop rather than being exposed to the weather like my old place.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 05:47:55 2011
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 22:47:55 +1000
Subject: [SEL] OT New Home
Message-ID: <CA3A969B.8665%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

We are finally in our new home which is in Earlwood (still in Sydney). We
made the big move last weekend and are now busily unpacking. I plan to bring
some engines home soon to cure the chronic engine withdrawal I have been
suffering.
It is nice to have a lot more room for the family and to have an all weather
workshop rather than being exposed to the weather like my old place.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 06:10:16 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:10:16 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/suffolk_gas_engine_deception_case_opened_1_954052

Peter
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Jul  6 07:04:02 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 10:04:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
In-Reply-To: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8f2087cfb099465aae1b76abafa4b40b.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

VERY interesting article Peter.  There is one prominent name (a colleague
of Mr. Green's), however, that is quite conspicuous by its absence.  Any
thoughts on that?

See ya,  Arnie

> http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/suffolk_gas_engine_deception_case_opened_1_954052
>
> Peter A Forbes




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 08:16:43 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 16:16:43 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
In-Reply-To: <8f2087cfb099465aae1b76abafa4b40b.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<8f2087cfb099465aae1b76abafa4b40b.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00JSu4_9u7L21rV_Pu-HxeBpVz0jhQUff7W0jwjiiePrqQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 6 July 2011 15:04,  <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
> VERY interesting article Peter. ?There is one prominent name (a colleague
> of Mr. Green's), however, that is quite conspicuous by its absence. ?Any
> thoughts on that?
>
> See ya, ?Arnie

John Delay?

No idea, I haven't heard his name mentioned in a while.

Peter
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From grookus2 at comcast.net  Wed Jul  6 13:31:44 2011
From: grookus2 at comcast.net (grookus2 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 20:31:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SEL] OT New Home
In-Reply-To: <CA3A969B.8665%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <383286338.273050.1309984304169.JavaMail.root@sz0072a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

congats on new home , may you have many great years. garyn and nancy rookus 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com> 
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>, "Oldengine" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 8:47:55 AM 
Subject: [SEL] OT New Home 

We are finally in our new home which is in Earlwood (still in Sydney). We 
made the big move last weekend and are now busily unpacking. I plan to bring 
some engines home soon to cure the chronic engine withdrawal I have been 
suffering. 
It is nice to have a lot more room for the family and to have an all weather 
workshop rather than being exposed to the weather like my old place. 
Patrick 

Patrick M Livingstone 
0418 692013 
Earlwood NSW 
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html 



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From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com  Wed Jul  6 19:14:41 2011
From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 22:14:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
Message-ID: <3e55b.6a5706ba.3b467091@aol.com>

Arnie
 
Please enlighten myself why one would post John Delays name on  this form? 
You can email me in private If you wish. 
 
Thank you
Kevin K 
 
_BIGFLYWHEEL at AOL.COM_ (mailto:BIGFLYWHEEL at AOL.COM) 
 
 
In a message dated 7/6/2011 11:27:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
listerdiesel at gmail.com writes:

On 6  July 2011 15:04,  <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
> VERY  interesting article Peter.  There is one prominent name (a  
colleague
> of Mr. Green's), however, that is quite conspicuous by its  absence.  Any
> thoughts on that?
>
> See ya,  Arnie

John Delay?

No idea, I haven't heard his name  mentioned in a while.

Peter
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From frappi at wcoil.com  Sun Jul 10 13:35:17 2011
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:35:17 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Coolsprings 2011 and a Mill
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20110708105721.01a9d9a0@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110708105721.01a9d9a0@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
Message-ID: <20110710203513.E4B3B94D1@smtp.wcoil.com>


At this 2011 June Coolspring Event a mill was purchased.  It was left 
by the buyer at the spot for pick up later that day. The buyer never 
returned for it by Sunday morning when we left. If you were the 
purchaser of this mill who forgot to pick it up we have it in safe 
keeping for you. Unfortunately we do not know your name. Identify the 
mill you purchased to our satisfaction so that we know you were the 
buyer and if you attend the listed events we can bring it to Plain 
City Ohio this week. Findlay Ohio first week of August, Portland Show 
in late August or back to Coolspring in October. Or what ever can be 
worked out.
  If you forgot a mill at Coolspring Identify the mill to get it.
                                               Mark



Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com  



From oldengin1 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 10 17:35:54 2011
From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:35:54 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <CAJ0UjP=8Ag69LDSPjbCjwEk2Zn5o+B_weBxgj+8B-FPHCAHtsg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ0UjP=8Ag69LDSPjbCjwEk2Zn5o+B_weBxgj+8B-FPHCAHtsg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ0UjP=Dj2efpm99kQH5MAgyChMPwerydHoH8tfgusvEfKWx=w@mail.gmail.com>

I am back. Leroy


From sewell at ohio.edu  Sun Jul 10 17:58:53 2011
From: sewell at ohio.edu (Sewell, Steven)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:58:53 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <CAJ0UjP=Dj2efpm99kQH5MAgyChMPwerydHoH8tfgusvEfKWx=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ0UjP=8Ag69LDSPjbCjwEk2Zn5o+B_weBxgj+8B-FPHCAHtsg@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAJ0UjP=Dj2efpm99kQH5MAgyChMPwerydHoH8tfgusvEfKWx=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0F8674EFA3209748AC63E990A6F64CED616A03C4EF@EXMAIL2.ohio.edu>

I see reports about you were exaggerated! =;-)  Going to Portland??


Steve Sewell
Albany, Ohio USA
sewell at ohio.edu
sewell at atis.net
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From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Leroy Clark [oldengin1 at gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:35 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Test

I am back. Leroy
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From oldengin1 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 10 18:09:33 2011
From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:09:33 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <CAJ0UjPmjf5d8TDw8d_NOYZ2L6t9BgprQfW_sTUfOdajvPzoxdg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ0UjP=8Ag69LDSPjbCjwEk2Zn5o+B_weBxgj+8B-FPHCAHtsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ0UjP=Dj2efpm99kQH5MAgyChMPwerydHoH8tfgusvEfKWx=w@mail.gmail.com>
	<0F8674EFA3209748AC63E990A6F64CED616A03C4EF@EXMAIL2.ohio.edu>
	<CAJ0UjPmjf5d8TDw8d_NOYZ2L6t9BgprQfW_sTUfOdajvPzoxdg@mail.gmail.com>
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Going to try

On Jul 10, 2011 9:07 PM, "Sewell, Steven" <sewell at ohio.edu> wrote:

I see reports about you were exaggerated! =;-)  Going to Portland??


Steve Sewell
Albany, Ohio USA
sewell at ohio.edu
sewell at atis.net
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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sun Jul 10 22:03:28 2011
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 22:03:28 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Old DC motors as generators
Message-ID: <20110710.220339.950.753141@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>

Hi all.  Over the years there have been very few questions that the lists
haven't come up with an answer to.  So here is mine:  it seems that if
you belt up an old DC brush motor it will charge.  I have even taken an
auto windshield wiper motor and put it in an aluminum case so it looked
like an old motor and it charged 6V or 12V depending on whether I tapped
the slow or fast speed.  Now, yesterday I picked up an old 24V DC motor,
nice brass tag says:  Elwell-Parker Electric Co. Cleveland Ohio, Class G,
size 16, #3443, 24V.
I looked this company up on Google, says they started making motors in
1893, and they supplied motors for Baker electric cars until 1915.
I would like to power this with one of my old engines and light up a
giant light bulb, doesn't need to be bright, just glow.
Do you think this will do what I want?  What are your thoughts that this
might be more valuable as the engine for an early Baker electric car?
Thanks.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Jul 11 00:00:54 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:00:54 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Old DC motors as generators
In-Reply-To: <20110710.220339.950.753141@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20110710.220339.950.753141@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00LKy5_6krJonbBR7SxEDh=fceNCZrz=1qOuU06EpdzxnA@mail.gmail.com>

On 11 July 2011 06:03,  <rdhaskell at juno.com> wrote:
> Hi all. ?Over the years there have been very few questions that the lists
> haven't come up with an answer to. ?So here is mine: ?it seems that if
> you belt up an old DC brush motor it will charge. ?I have even taken an
> auto windshield wiper motor and put it in an aluminum case so it looked
> like an old motor and it charged 6V or 12V depending on whether I tapped
> the slow or fast speed. ?Now, yesterday I picked up an old 24V DC motor,
> nice brass tag says: ?Elwell-Parker Electric Co. Cleveland Ohio, Class G,
> size 16, #3443, 24V.
> I looked this company up on Google, says they started making motors in
> 1893, and they supplied motors for Baker electric cars until 1915.
> I would like to power this with one of my old engines and light up a
> giant light bulb, doesn't need to be bright, just glow.
> Do you think this will do what I want? ?What are your thoughts that this
> might be more valuable as the engine for an early Baker electric car?
> Thanks.
>
> Ron Haskell

Ron:

The machine will run as either a generator or a motor, but you will
need to sort out how the brushes and the field windings are connected.

I'd expect it to be shunt-wound, where the field windings are directly
across the brushes, but it could possibly be series wound, the field
is in series with one of the brushes, or compound-wound which is a
series-shunt combination.

Can't comment on the value ref the baker car, but it is always nice to
have something to load an engine.

Peter
-- 
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
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From doubled.66 at verizon.net  Mon Jul 11 02:29:25 2011
From: doubled.66 at verizon.net (doubled.66 at verizon.net)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 04:29:25 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <26982901.31197.1310376565319.JavaMail.root@vms170035>

   Welcome back Leroy


   On 07/10/11, Leroy Clark<oldengin1 at gmail.com> wrote:
   I am back. Leroy
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From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Mon Jul 11 04:46:19 2011
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:46:19 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Old DC motors as generators
In-Reply-To: <20110710.220339.950.753141@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20110710.220339.950.753141@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <001201cc3fc0$26bd6980$74383c80$@com>

DC motors and DC generators are in principle identical machines.  Truthfully
the biggest difference between a motor and generator is that a motor says
"motor" on the tag and a generator says "generator" on the tag!  There are
different types of motors, shunt, series, compound, which will affect the
voltage and current generated, but all will generate.

Rick


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
rdhaskell at juno.com
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 1:03 AM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: [SEL] Old DC motors as generators

Hi all.  Over the years there have been very few questions that the lists
haven't come up with an answer to.  So here is mine:  it seems that if
you belt up an old DC brush motor it will charge.  I have even taken an
auto windshield wiper motor and put it in an aluminum case so it looked
like an old motor and it charged 6V or 12V depending on whether I tapped
the slow or fast speed.  Now, yesterday I picked up an old 24V DC motor,
nice brass tag says:  Elwell-Parker Electric Co. Cleveland Ohio, Class G,
size 16, #3443, 24V.
I looked this company up on Google, says they started making motors in
1893, and they supplied motors for Baker electric cars until 1915.
I would like to power this with one of my old engines and light up a
giant light bulb, doesn't need to be bright, just glow.
Do you think this will do what I want?  What are your thoughts that this
might be more valuable as the engine for an early Baker electric car?
Thanks.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
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From walking_tractor at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 06:05:30 2011
From: walking_tractor at yahoo.com (David Myers)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 06:05:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Old DC motors as generators
In-Reply-To: <001201cc3fc0$26bd6980$74383c80$@com>
References: <20110710.220339.950.753141@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
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Elwell-Parker was still in business last I knew.? Makers of very large (up to 250,000#) fork lift trucks.? 
Yes, DC will work both ways but depending on construction will work better one way or the other.? Starter-generators used on small engines are one example of this (they aren't really good at either but they're better than nothing).
Incadescent light bulbs don't care if it is AC or DC, they just want voltage.? Have fun with this, should make for a good display.
I am a fan of having engines doing SOMETHING.? That's what they were designed for.? I think it makes them happier.
David

From: Rick Rowlands <rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com>
To: 'The SEL email discussion list' <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Old DC motors as generators

DC motors and DC generators are in principle identical machines.? Truthfully
the biggest difference between a motor and generator is that a motor says
"motor" on the tag and a generator says "generator" on the tag!? There are
different types of motors, shunt, series, compound, which will affect the
voltage and current generated, but all will generate.

Rick


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
rdhaskell at juno.com
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 1:03 AM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: [SEL] Old DC motors as generators

Hi all.? Over the years there have been very few questions that the lists
haven't come up with an answer to.? So here is mine:? it seems that if
you belt up an old DC brush motor it will charge.? I have even taken an
auto windshield wiper motor and put it in an aluminum case so it looked
like an old motor and it charged 6V or 12V depending on whether I tapped
the slow or fast speed.? Now, yesterday I picked up an old 24V DC motor,
nice brass tag says:? Elwell-Parker Electric Co. Cleveland Ohio, Class G,
size 16, #3443, 24V.
I looked this company up on Google, says they started making motors in
1893, and they supplied motors for Baker electric cars until 1915.
I would like to power this with one of my old engines and light up a
giant light bulb, doesn't need to be bright, just glow.
Do you think this will do what I want?? What are your thoughts that this
might be more valuable as the engine for an early Baker electric car?
Thanks.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
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size 16, #3443, 24V.
I looked this company up on Google, says they started making motors in
1893, and they supplied motors for Baker electric cars until 1915.
I would like to power this with one of my old engines and light up a
giant light bulb, doesn't need to be bright, just glow.
Do you think this will do what I want?? What are your thoughts that this
might be more valuable as the engine for an early Baker electric car?
Thanks.

Ron Haskell
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Riverside, California USA
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From jlb94 at juno.com  Mon Jul 11 07:12:40 2011
From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:12:40 GMT
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <20110711.101240.8431.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com>


Welcome back, Leroy

Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/       
(_0_)      So - - - Just how clean is a whistle ??

              

                                



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To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Test
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:35:54 -0400

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From gasenginetom at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 11 07:47:42 2011
From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:47:42 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Engine get together at the Winland's this weekend  :)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ0UjP=Dj2efpm99kQH5MAgyChMPwerydHoH8tfgusvEfKWx=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ0UjP=8Ag69LDSPjbCjwEk2Zn5o+B_weBxgj+8B-FPHCAHtsg@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAJ0UjP=Dj2efpm99kQH5MAgyChMPwerydHoH8tfgusvEfKWx=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT131-w544031C6E6B3C818C0E10AC2450@phx.gbl>



 

I would like to personally invite you to the annual Winland engine get together on Saturday, July 16th at our house.  We will be having smoked pulled pork and baked beans cooking on the smoker and homemade ice cream.  It is a bring your own refreshment (Beer) party and last year we were up running engine till 4 AM.    This is the same weekend as last year with the Plain City show going on also, so I will be attending Plain City show Saturday morning till about 1 and heading to my house to get ready, so anytime in the afternoon or evening that anyone wants to come is fine.  Anyone that wants to bring an engine to show is encouraged to bring them to show.    Anyone wanting to camp again this year your more than welcome also.
 
If you think your going to make it drop me a line so we can get an idea of how many to expect. 
 
Here are some pictures from last years show
 
http://gasenginetom.com/Engine_Get_Together_2010.html
 
Location
 
7825 Snyder Rd.
Orient, OH  43146
 
my cell # if you need to reach me is 614-306-0908
 
Hope to see you all 
 
Tom & Heather Winland
 
http://gasenginetom.com/index.html 		 	   		  

From swebre at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 11 09:20:11 2011
From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:20:11 +0000
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 88, Issue 6
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1310400001.24011.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
References: <mailman.0.1310400001.24011.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <SNT125-W1608A11EC05CA05598781DDB450@phx.gbl>


Welcome home Leroy.  :) 

-Steve- 
  		 	   		  

From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk  Mon Jul 11 12:23:58 2011
From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (Craig Morrison)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:23:58 +0100
Subject: [SEL] The anual Redneck Games
Message-ID: <41626BE099154EEC8BB41B700202CD99@craig8b4f43368>

    I read in the paper today that it was the 16th annual Red Neck Games at the weekend in Georgia, and was wondering if any of you  guys or gals took part and if so in which event. This is purely out of curiosity of course.

Craig

From christison at coastalnet.com  Mon Jul 11 13:01:02 2011
From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:01:02 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique engine show
Message-ID: <4E1B567E.4090305@coastalnet.com>

   Passing this on.  Perhaps the Royster Bros. can tell us more about it.
   Ken
   -------- Original Message --------

   Subject: Antique engine show
      Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 06:37:42 -0700 (PDT)
      From: Coty Houser [1]<cotyhouser at yahoo.com>
        To: [2]christison at coastalnet.com

   Hey! Im Coty and I am from Vale, NC.  I am having a Farm and Machinery
   Show and Tractor pull at the Cleveland County Fairgrounds in a couple
   weeks.  It is in memory of my father who passed away earlier this
   year.  I am short on exhibitors and I was wondering if your club could
   help out in any way.  If anyone could bring something I will give them
   free tickets to the pull and I will donate money to your club.  The
   event is called the The Shelby Southern Thunder National Truck and
   Tractor pull.  It is on Facebook and the website is
   [3]www.southernthunder.us.  Please contact me if you can help in any
   way.  My cell number is 704-530-0163.  Thank you !

   Coty

References

   1. mailto:cotyhouser at yahoo.com
   2. mailto:christison at coastalnet.com
   3. http://www.southernthunder.us/


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Jul 11 13:29:40 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:29:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <CAJ0UjP=Dj2efpm99kQH5MAgyChMPwerydHoH8tfgusvEfKWx=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ0UjP=8Ag69LDSPjbCjwEk2Zn5o+B_weBxgj+8B-FPHCAHtsg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <bf21e35bd46887ae75ee1f798875f7b7.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

EXCELLENT!!  Just in time for Findley!!

See ya,  Arnie

Leroy Clark wrote:
> I am back. Leroy




From curt at rustyiron.com  Mon Jul 11 14:18:53 2011
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:18:53 -0600
Subject: [SEL] The anual Redneck Games
In-Reply-To: <41626BE099154EEC8BB41B700202CD99@craig8b4f43368>
References: <41626BE099154EEC8BB41B700202CD99@craig8b4f43368>
Message-ID: <9508d69b80f7354fbb703e45686a9b7a.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com>

Craig,
I'm sad to say that the Roysters are no longer allowed to represent the
SEL at the annual Redneck Games in Georgia. Their behavior was SO
deplorable there last year, they have been banned forever. It really is
quite embarrassing.
As always, it's a pleasure defending Royster honour. :-)
Curt Holland



>     I read in the paper today that it was the 16th annual Red Neck Games
> at the weekend in Georgia, and was wondering if any of you  guys or
> gals took part and if so in which event. This is purely out of
> curiosity of course.
>
> Craig
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>




From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Jul 11 14:45:37 2011
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (mr at carolina.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:45:37 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique engine show
In-Reply-To: <4E1B567E.4090305@coastalnet.com>
Message-ID: <20110711214537.H3UJU.85820.root@hrndva-web06-z01>

I have not heard of this before but will certainly check it out as it is only 10 minutes from the house!

Mike



---- Ken Christison <christison at coastalnet.com> wrote: 



From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com  Mon Jul 11 16:40:30 2011
From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:40:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique engine show
Message-ID: <8bfca.10c4a1.3b4ce3ee@aol.com>

Looks like the Royster boys will fit right in at these  games.
 
_http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3687065/Redneck-Games-are-a-real-
flop.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News_ 
(http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3687065/Redneck-Games-are-a-real-flop.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News) 
 
Check it out. 
 
KK
 
 
In a message dated 7/11/2011 5:56:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mr at carolina.rr.com writes:

I have  not heard of this before but will certainly check it out as it is 
only 10  minutes from the house!

Mike



---- Ken Christison  <christison at coastalnet.com> wrote:  

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From eric at facspro.com  Mon Jul 11 16:51:39 2011
From: eric at facspro.com (Eric Walter)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:51:39 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Witte Dieselectric
Message-ID: <F3D3C2D0687D403DBFABCE1B6E127374@Office>

I am looking for a starting crank for a Witte Dieselectric MD 12Hp engine. Also looking for information on how to date one of these engines s/n on mine is D17013.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Eric Walter


From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 11 19:42:35 2011
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:42:35 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique engine show
In-Reply-To: <8bfca.10c4a1.3b4ce3ee@aol.com>
References: <8bfca.10c4a1.3b4ce3ee@aol.com>
Message-ID: <col112-w18959856B0241E0C4F338395440@phx.gbl>


Yep, thats my brother in the first picture, bless his heart!
 

 

> From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com
> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:40:30 -0400
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Fwd: Antique engine show
> 
> Looks like the Royster boys will fit right in at these games.
> 
> _http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3687065/Redneck-Games-are-a-real-
> flop.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News_ 
> (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3687065/Redneck-Games-are-a-real-flop.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News) 
> 
> Check it out. 
> 
> KK
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/11/2011 5:56:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> mr at carolina.rr.com writes:
> 
> I have not heard of this before but will certainly check it out as it is 
> only 10 minutes from the house!
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> ---- Ken Christison <christison at coastalnet.com> wrote: 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From gasenginetom at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 12 07:36:38 2011
From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:36:38 -0400
Subject: [SEL] screen cooled Mogul
In-Reply-To: <col112-w18959856B0241E0C4F338395440@phx.gbl>
References: <8bfca.10c4a1.3b4ce3ee@aol.com>,
	<col112-w18959856B0241E0C4F338395440@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <SNT131-w63EA05F6AF587E45987A8AC2440@phx.gbl>


Check out my newest addition to the engine barn  :)
 
6 HP Mogul, screen cooled, all original
 
http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Mogul_screen_cooled.html 		 	   		  

From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue Jul 12 07:58:57 2011
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:58:57 EDT
Subject: [SEL] screen cooled Mogul
Message-ID: <1b2fe.5ad337e7.3b4dbb31@aol.com>



 
In a message dated 7/12/2011 10:50:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
gasenginetom at hotmail.com writes:


Check out my newest addition to the engine barn  :)

6 HP  Mogul, screen cooled, all original
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------
 
A great looking engine!

Tom  Schmutz
Concord, Va.  
germoamer at aol.com




From George_Best at adp.com  Tue Jul 12 08:15:37 2011
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George (DS))
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:15:37 -0500
Subject: [SEL] screen cooled Mogul
In-Reply-To: <1b2fe.5ad337e7.3b4dbb31@aol.com>
References: <1b2fe.5ad337e7.3b4dbb31@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FD84543EE@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Great find Tom!

You guys in the eastern states certainly are in the right area for finding nice engines.
We have a few in the western states, but certainly not in the quantity that they are found in the eastern part of the country.

Enjoyed seeing your collection and sorry I can't be at your open house that is coming up.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Germoamer at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:59 AM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: Re: [SEL] screen cooled Mogul



 
In a message dated 7/12/2011 10:50:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
gasenginetom at hotmail.com writes:


Check out my newest addition to the engine barn  :)

6 HP  Mogul, screen cooled, all original
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------
 
A great looking engine!

Tom  Schmutz
Concord, Va.  
germoamer at aol.com


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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Jul 12 09:23:34 2011
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:23:34 +0200
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 88, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1310486401.10850.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110712181854.01fa9e10@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>

   At 06:00 PM 12/07/2011, you wrote:

     Message: 8
     Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:51:39 -0500
     From: "Eric Walter" <eric at facspro.com>
     Subject: [SEL] Witte Dieselectric
     I am looking for a starting crank for a Witte Dieselectric MD 12Hp
     engine. Also looking for information on how to date one of these
     engines s/n on mine is D17013.
     Any help would be appreciated.
     Thanks
     Eric Walter

   Hi Eric,
           I tried to date my Witte CD without luck. David Johnson
   <wittemania at cox.net> (on SMOKSTAK) seems to be the Fundi and may be
   able to help you.

   Keep the revs up (or down)
   Jerry Evans
   Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
   Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
   <[1]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>

References

   1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm


From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Jul 12 09:55:13 2011
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:55:13 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Spark Plugs are becoming Obsolete
In-Reply-To: <SNT131-w63EA05F6AF587E45987A8AC2440@phx.gbl>
References: <8bfca.10c4a1.3b4ce3ee@aol.com>
	<col112-w18959856B0241E0C4F338395440@phx.gbl>
	<SNT131-w63EA05F6AF587E45987A8AC2440@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20110712165514.861F994F9@smtp.wcoil.com>

Read an interesting article today in one of the 
newsletters I get. This idea has been around for 
a while but they are finally getting it near 
practical for automotive use. My bet is this idea 
originated here and we as usual did not pursue 
the research as it was deemed practicality was 
too distant in the future to be of immediate 
value to stock holders.  But this should interest 
this group. See the article below with credits.     Mark




Laser Sparks Revolution in Internal Combustion Engines

New laser system may lead to reduced auto emissions, enhanced fuel efficiency

WASHINGTON, April 20?For more than 150 years, 
spark plugs have powered internal combustion 
engines. Automakers are now one step closer to 
being able to replace this long-standing 
technology with laser igniters, which will enable 
cleaner, more efficient, and more economical vehicles.

In the past, lasers strong enough to ignite an 
engine?s air-fuel mixtures were too large to fit 
under an automobile's hood. At this year's 
Conference on Lasers and Electro Optics 
(<http://www.cleoconference.org/>CLEO: 2011), to 
be held in Baltimore May 1 - 6, researchers from 
Japan will describe the first multibeam laser 
system small enough to screw into an engine's cylinder head.
Laser Sparks



A standard spark plug (left) and the micro-laser 
with three-beam output for multi-point ignition 
(right). Photo courtesy Takunori Taira, National 
Institutes of Natural Sciences, Japan.

Equally significant, the new laser system is made 
from ceramics, and could be produced 
inexpensively in large volumes, according to one 
of the presentation's authors, Takunori Taira of 
Japan's National Institutes of Natural Sciences.

According to Taira, conventional spark plugs pose 
a barrier to improving fuel economy and reducing 
emissions of nitrogen oxides (NOx), a key component of smog.

Spark plugs work by sending small, high-voltage 
electrical sparks across a gap between two metal 
electrodes. The spark ignites the air-fuel 
mixture in the engine's cylinder?producing a 
controlled explosion that forces the piston down 
to the bottom of the cylinder, generating the 
horsepower needed to move the vehicle.

Engines make NOx as a byproduct of combustion. If 
engines ran leaner ? burnt more air and less fuel 
? they would produce significantly smaller NOx emissions.

Spark plugs can ignite leaner fuel mixtures, but 
only by increasing spark energy. Unfortunately, 
these high voltages erode spark plug electrodes 
so fast, the solution is not economical. By 
contrast, lasers, which ignite the air-fuel 
mixture with concentrated optical energy, have no 
electrodes and are not affected.

Lasers also improve efficiency. Conventional 
spark plugs sit on top of the cylinder and only 
ignite the air-fuel mixture close to them. The 
relatively cold metal of nearby electrodes and 
cylinder walls absorbs heat from the explosion, 
quenching the flame front just as it starts to expand.

Lasers, Taira explains, can focus their beams 
directly into the center of the mixture. Without 
quenching, the flame front expands more 
symmetrically and up to three times faster than those produced by spark plugs.

Equally important, he says, lasers inject their 
energy within nanoseconds, compared with 
milliseconds for spark plugs. ?Timing ? quick 
combustion ? is very important. The more precise 
the timing, the more efficient the combustion and 
the better the fuel economy,? he says.

Lasers promise less pollution and greater fuel 
efficiency, but making small, powerful lasers 
has, until now, proven hard. To ignite 
combustion, a laser must focus light to 
approximately 100 gigawatts per square centimeter 
with short pulses of more than 10 millijoules each.

?In the past, lasers that could meet those 
requirements were limited to basic research 
because they were big, inefficient, and 
unstable,? Taira says. Nor could they be located 
away from the engine, because their powerful 
beams would destroy any optical fibers that delivered light to the cylinders.

Taira?s research team overcame this problem by 
making composite lasers from ceramic powders. The 
team heats the powders to fuse them into 
optically transparent solids and embeds metal 
ions in them to tune their properties.

Ceramics are easier to tune optically than 
conventional crystals. They are also much 
stronger, more durable, and thermally conductive, 
so they can dissipate the heat from an engine without breaking down.

Taira?s team built its laser from two 
yttrium-aluminum-gallium (YAG) segments, one 
doped with neodymium, the other with chromium. 
They bonded the two sections together to form a 
powerful laser only 9 millimeters in diameter and 
11 millimeters long (a bit less than half an inch).

The composite generates two laser beams that can 
ignite fuel in two separate locations at the same 
time. This would produce a flame wall that grows 
faster and more uniformly than one lit by a single laser.

The laser is not strong enough to light the 
leanest fuel mixtures with a single pulse. By 
using several 800-picosecond-long pulses, 
however, they can inject enough energy to ignite the mixture completely.

A commercial automotive engine will require 60 Hz 
(or pulse trains per second), Taira says. He has 
already tested the new dual-beam laser at 100 Hz. 
The team is also at work on a three-beam laser 
that will enable even faster and more uniform combustion.

The laser-ignition system, although highly 
promising, is not yet being installed into actual 
automobiles made in a factory. Taira?s team is, 
however, working with a large spark-plug company 
and with DENSO Corporation, a member of the Toyota Group.

This work is supported by the Japan Science and Technical Agency (JST).

CLEO: 2011 presentation 
<http://cleo2011.abstractcentral.com/planner?NEXT_PAGE=ITINERARY_ABS_DET_POP&SESSION_ABSTRACT_ID=797739&ABSTRACT_ID=1042779&SESSION_ID=83094&PROGRAM_ID=2916>CMP1, 
?Composite All-Ceramics, Passively Q-switched 
Nd:YAG/Cr4+:YAG Monolithic Micro-Laser with 
Two-Beam Output for Multi-Point Ignition,? by 
Nicolaie Pavel of Romania?s National Institute 
for Laser, Plasma and Radiation Physics; Takunore 
Taira and Masaki Tsunekane of Japan?s Institute 
for Molecular Science; and Kenji Kanehara of 
Nippon Soken, Inc., Japan, is at 1:30 p.m. 
Monday, May 2 in the Baltimore Convention Center.

About CLEO
With a distinguished history as the industry's 
leading event on laser science, the Conference on 
Lasers and Electro-Optics (CLEO) and the Quantum 
Electronics Laser Science Conference (QELS) is 
where laser technology was first introduced. 
CLEO: 2011 will unite the field of lasers and 
electro-optics by bringing together all aspects 
of laser technology, with content stemming from 
basic research to industry application. Sponsored 
by the American Physical Society's (APS) Laser 
Science Division, the Institute of Electronic 
Engineers (IEEE) Photonics Society and the 
Optical Society (OSA), CLEO: 2011 provides the 
full range of critical developments in the field, 
showcasing the most significant milestones from 
laboratory to marketplace. With an unparalleled 
breadth and depth of coverage, CLEO: 2011 
connects all of the critical vertical markets in 
lasers and electro-optics. For more information, 
visit the conference's website at 
<http://www.cleoconference.org>www.cleoconference.org.

###







From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Jul 12 10:03:07 2011
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:03:07 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Emailing: LaserSparksRevolution
Message-ID: <20110712170307.249BF9519@smtp.wcoil.com>



Heres the pic of the device from the article.



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Tue Jul 12 11:29:14 2011
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:29:14 -0700
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 88, Issue 7
Message-ID: <20110712.112953.950.760730@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>

Doesn't Wendel's notebook say Witte Diesels from 14,677-18,831 were made
in 1947?  That's how I read it.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:23:34 +0200 Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za>
writes:
>    At 06:00 PM 12/07/2011, you wrote:
> 
>      Message: 8
>      Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:51:39 -0500
>      From: "Eric Walter" <eric at facspro.com>
>      Subject: [SEL] Witte Dieselectric
>      I am looking for a starting crank for a Witte Dieselectric MD 
> 12Hp
>      engine. Also looking for information on how to date one of 
> these
>      engines s/n on mine is D17013.
>      Any help would be appreciated.
>      Thanks
>      Eric Walter
> 
>    Hi Eric,
>            I tried to date my Witte CD without luck. David Johnson
>    <wittemania at cox.net> (on SMOKSTAK) seems to be the Fundi and may 
> be
>    able to help you.
> 
>    Keep the revs up (or down)
>    Jerry Evans
>    Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
>    Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
>    <[1]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>
____________________________________________________________
57 Year Old Mom Looks 27!
Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors!
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e1c92a395998347e1ast02vuc


From mr at carolina.rr.com  Tue Jul 12 13:47:07 2011
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (mr at carolina.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:47:07 -0400
Subject: [SEL] screen cooled Mogul
In-Reply-To: <SNT131-w63EA05F6AF587E45987A8AC2440@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20110712204708.1VAX3.25846.root@cdptpa-web11-z02>

GORGEOUS!!!!!!!


---- Tom Winland <gasenginetom at hotmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> Check out my newest addition to the engine barn  :)
>  
> 6 HP Mogul, screen cooled, all original
>  
> http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Mogul_screen_cooled.html 		 	   		  
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From eric at facspro.com  Tue Jul 12 16:21:41 2011
From: eric at facspro.com (Eric Walter)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:21:41 -0500
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 88, Issue 7
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110712181854.01fa9e10@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
Message-ID: <0B1B0CF35F664083A99E74D2C286C674@Office>

Jerry,
 Thanks for the info. I've already got a manual on CD for my MD from David 
and he is looking for a crank for me also. I wasn't sure if he was on this 
list so I thought I would shoot it out here for others to ponder. Can't have 
enough people looking for stuff these days.

Thanks
Eric




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 88, Issue 7


>   At 06:00 PM 12/07/2011, you wrote:
>
>     Message: 8
>     Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:51:39 -0500
>     From: "Eric Walter" <eric at facspro.com>
>     Subject: [SEL] Witte Dieselectric
>     I am looking for a starting crank for a Witte Dieselectric MD 12Hp
>     engine. Also looking for information on how to date one of these
>     engines s/n on mine is D17013.
>     Any help would be appreciated.
>     Thanks
>     Eric Walter
>
>   Hi Eric,
>           I tried to date my Witte CD without luck. David Johnson
>   <wittemania at cox.net> (on SMOKSTAK) seems to be the Fundi and may be
>   able to help you.
>
>   Keep the revs up (or down)
>   Jerry Evans
>   Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
>   Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
>   <[1]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>
>
> References
>
>   1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From eric at facspro.com  Tue Jul 12 16:22:57 2011
From: eric at facspro.com (Eric Walter)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:22:57 -0500
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 88, Issue 7
References: <20110712.112953.950.760730@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <FD8D01E4181645DFB8BEB5D5FF263BCA@Office>

Ron,
Being a newbie in the Stationary engine department I'm not familiar with the 
book you are referring to.

Eric


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <rdhaskell at juno.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 88, Issue 7


> Doesn't Wendel's notebook say Witte Diesels from 14,677-18,831 were made
> in 1947?  That's how I read it.
>
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California USA
> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
>
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:23:34 +0200 Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za>
> writes:
>>    At 06:00 PM 12/07/2011, you wrote:
>>
>>      Message: 8
>>      Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:51:39 -0500
>>      From: "Eric Walter" <eric at facspro.com>
>>      Subject: [SEL] Witte Dieselectric
>>      I am looking for a starting crank for a Witte Dieselectric MD
>> 12Hp
>>      engine. Also looking for information on how to date one of
>> these
>>      engines s/n on mine is D17013.
>>      Any help would be appreciated.
>>      Thanks
>>      Eric Walter
>>
>>    Hi Eric,
>>            I tried to date my Witte CD without luck. David Johnson
>>    <wittemania at cox.net> (on SMOKSTAK) seems to be the Fundi and may
>> be
>>    able to help you.
>>
>>    Keep the revs up (or down)
>>    Jerry Evans
>>    Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
>>    Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
>>    <[1]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>
> ____________________________________________________________
> 57 Year Old Mom Looks 27!
> Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors!
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e1c92a395998347e1ast02vuc
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue Jul 12 16:43:27 2011
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:43:27 EDT
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 88, Issue 7
Message-ID: <286ab.4461f4b7.3b4e361f@aol.com>



 
In a message dated 7/12/2011 7:36:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
eric at facspro.com writes:

Ron,
Being a newbie in the Stationary engine department I'm not  familiar with 
the 
book you are referring to.

Eric

Check here  for information on Wendel's notebook.  Handy booklet to  have.


_http://www.farmcollector.com/shopping/detail.aspx?itemnumber=3573_ 
(http://www.farmcollector.com/shopping/detail.aspx?itemnumber=3573) 

Tom  Schmutz
Concord, Va.  
germoamer at aol.com




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Jul 12 18:52:43 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:52:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Dolly's Nuenen Pics are up
Message-ID: <bd285a29a75568ea15d88cdcfd854c23.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

PS can you post my Nuenen link to ATIS?  Nothing ever appears that I post,
but we still get all the mail!
http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen11/nuenen1.htm

Thanks,
Dolly
x






From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 20:59:31 2011
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:59:31 +1000
Subject: [SEL] screen cooled Mogul
In-Reply-To: <SNT131-w63EA05F6AF587E45987A8AC2440@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CA435543.8712%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

Nice engine. It certainly runs sweet.
Patrick


On 13/7/11 12:36 AM, "Tom Winland" <gasenginetom at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Check out my newest addition to the engine barn  :)
>  
> 6 HP Mogul, screen cooled, all original
>  
> http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Mogul_screen_cooled.html          
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From obise at moscow.com  Tue Jul 12 21:55:58 2011
From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:55:58 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Dolly's Nuenen Pics are up
In-Reply-To: <bd285a29a75568ea15d88cdcfd854c23.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <bd285a29a75568ea15d88cdcfd854c23.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <4E1D255E.3070703@moscow.com>

Dolly, as usual you did an A++++ job.  Thank you for posting.  The pix 
are beautiful!
     Best regards,
     Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.


On 7/12/2011 6:52 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:
> PS can you post my Nuenen link to ATIS?  Nothing ever appears that I post,
> but we still get all the mail!
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen11/nuenen1.htm
>
> Thanks,
> Dolly
> x
>


From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Thu Jul 14 18:06:44 2011
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:06:44 +1000
Subject: [SEL] It's just like starting over
Message-ID: <CA45CFC4.87A1%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

I have finally made a start on the new home for my engines. Last weekend I
pulled two engines out of storage and brought them home. It is just like
starting collecting again and bringing things home.
The first two engines home were my F-M No.1 Eclipse (my first and favourite
engine) and one of the 1hp R&Vs. Hopefully I will get them unloaded from the
trailer this weekend and even give them a run!
It is nice to be able to work on engines in all weather conditions and being
able to leave them sitting on the trailer in the garage.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sat Jul 16 03:26:24 2011
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:26:24 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Progress in the new workshop
Message-ID: <CA47A470.880C%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

I finally have a couple of engines in the new workshop and I fired both up
today. It has been many months since either was running so it was nice to
finally have something running at home.
The first engine to be fired up was (appropriately) my Fairbanks-Morse No.1
Eclipse. It was my first engine and I have owned it for over 30 years. There
is a clip of it running at:
http://youtu.be/tDoDTCiGA1Q
Second engine to be fired up was my flywheel governed Root & VanDervoort
'Triumph Line' 1hp engine. It was a bit reluctant to fire up on stale fuel
but some fresh stuff soon had it running. The next step is to bring one of
the bigger engines home...
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From cgandree at mchsi.com  Sat Jul 16 05:29:11 2011
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 07:29:11 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] Progress in the new workshop
In-Reply-To: <CA47A470.880C%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1782174232.5400271310819351534.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

Real nice Patrick.  Bet you are really going to enjoy the home and especially the shop being close by now.  Get a chance send some pics of your house and shop.
thanks for sharing.
Curt



----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>, "Oldengine" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 5:26:24 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [SEL] Progress in the new workshop

I finally have a couple of engines in the new workshop and I fired both up
today. It has been many months since either was running so it was nice to
finally have something running at home.
The first engine to be fired up was (appropriately) my Fairbanks-Morse No.1
Eclipse. It was my first engine and I have owned it for over 30 years. There
is a clip of it running at:
http://youtu.be/tDoDTCiGA1Q
Second engine to be fired up was my flywheel governed Root & VanDervoort
'Triumph Line' 1hp engine. It was a bit reluctant to fire up on stale fuel
but some fresh stuff soon had it running. The next step is to bring one of
the bigger engines home...
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
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From oldengin1 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 16 12:03:31 2011
From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:03:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SandY 7-17
In-Reply-To: <CAJ0UjPmjCB0tSrNWwo1GBMZBFn5mVQGmkGVv_4yH4HbDdhr55w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ0UjPmjCB0tSrNWwo1GBMZBFn5mVQGmkGVv_4yH4HbDdhr55w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ0UjPkYfpjwm=Zd--Ak3fkBddrW+RFvT22AXs6saXSZ=5h9GA@mail.gmail.com>

Tom , when and where is your engine gathering  at tomorrow. Leroy

On Jul 16, 2011 8:37 AM, <cgandree at mchsi.com> wrote:

Real nice Patrick.  Bet you are really going to enjoy the home and
especially the shop being close by now.  Get a chance send some pics of your
house and shop.
thanks for sharing.
Curt




----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: "ATI...


From dombros2 at clearmail.com.au  Sat Jul 16 16:27:42 2011
From: dombros2 at clearmail.com.au (Domeney Brothers)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 09:27:42 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2011, some thanks.
Message-ID: <DC2C9110E9944B2EB8187DF0A71FC359@shed>

G'day all
I'm just back home, way down in the (freezing cold) state of Tasmania, Australia after an extended trip to Europe, the engine highlight of which was the Nuenen Rally. 

My compliments and congratulations to Anton and his colleagues who put this Rally together every year. I was told before going that it was a Rally every engineman should see in his lifetime, and I can now endorse that. Thank you Anton for the Rally, and for your help, courtesy, kindness and generosity during our stay.

And also Peter Forbes, whom I have emailed for help several times in the past. It was really good to put a face to the name, and thank you too for your kindness to me on the Saturday. (Peter gave me a bottle of water when I was quite dehydrated and the hospitality tent was not yet on site.) Your generosity was quite timely and very much appreciated. 

I have heard from Anton that Coolspring was very good, he was urging me to go to it too, after Nuenen. It was impossible this year with plans locked in place for various visits in Europe. But look out, its on my shortlist for the future.

Regards to all
Teddy

From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Jul 17 03:15:43 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:15:43 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2011, some thanks.
In-Reply-To: <DC2C9110E9944B2EB8187DF0A71FC359@shed>
References: <DC2C9110E9944B2EB8187DF0A71FC359@shed>
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00Jdb3dvKbJr351C2QDRHxiq8TpA8WXboXqpDHFr3K9qgw@mail.gmail.com>

On 17 July 2011 00:27, Domeney Brothers <dombros2 at clearmail.com.au> wrote:
> G'day all
> I'm just back home, way down in the (freezing cold) state of Tasmania, Australia after an extended trip to Europe, the engine highlight of which was the Nuenen Rally.
>

Good to see you, Ted, glad to hear that the trip worked out OK, look
forward to seeing you again. I believe that there is going to be a big
gathering of slide-valve engines at the 25th show, that's 2013, put
that down in your book.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From gasenginetom at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 17 06:52:15 2011
From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (gasenginetom at hotmail.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 09:52:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SandY 7-17
In-Reply-To: <CAJ0UjPkYfpjwm=Zd--Ak3fkBddrW+RFvT22AXs6saXSZ=5h9GA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ0UjPmjCB0tSrNWwo1GBMZBFn5mVQGmkGVv_4yH4HbDdhr55w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ0UjPkYfpjwm=Zd--Ak3fkBddrW+RFvT22AXs6saXSZ=5h9GA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP17714EC4EE54B076BC78548C24B0@phx.gbl>

Leroy

 My engine gathering was on the 16th

Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless

-----Original message-----
From: Leroy Clark <oldengin1 at gmail.com>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sat, Jul 16, 2011 19:03:31 GMT+00:00
Subject: [SEL] SandY 7-17

Tom , when and where is your engine gathering  at tomorrow. Leroy

On Jul 16, 2011 8:37 AM, <cgandree at mchsi.com> wrote:

Real nice Patrick.  Bet you are really going to enjoy the home and
especially the shop being close by now.  Get a chance send some pics of your
house and shop.
thanks for sharing.
Curt




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From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Tue Jul 19 07:26:35 2011
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:26:35 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>

Hi folks

 

Just seeing if I can get messages to appear on the list now I've done a few
tweaks to the email system.

 

Dolly

 

 



From gasenginetom at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 19 07:40:49 2011
From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:40:49 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <SNT131-W615290FF2DB3200D989180C24D0@phx.gbl>


came thru here  :)
 

> From: fbi at insulate.co.uk
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:26:35 +0100
> Subject: [SEL] Test
> 
> Hi folks
> 
> 
> 
> Just seeing if I can get messages to appear on the list now I've done a few
> tweaks to the email system.
> 
> 
> 
> Dolly
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From Vivas1993 at aol.com  Tue Jul 19 07:46:42 2011
From: Vivas1993 at aol.com (Vivas1993 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:46:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <7578e.414995d3.3b56f2d2@aol.com>

Came through just fine here in VA.
Dwight
 
 
In a message dated 7/19/2011 10:37:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
fbi at insulate.co.uk writes:

Hi  folks



Just seeing if I can get messages to appear on the list  now I've done a few
tweaks to the email  system.



Dolly





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From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Tue Jul 19 07:52:12 2011
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:52:12 +0100
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport
Message-ID: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>

Excellent!  Now I can repost to the list, FINALLY, after about a year of
only being able to read messages or post via Arnie, I'm here with a request
for help.

Jim and I will be coming to Portland this year and we've already purchased
an engine.  Is there any chance of the Olde Iron Express getting this baby
from Ann Arbor in Michigan down to Portland?  It weighs approx 2,400lbs,
7'5" long and 3'8" wide on a pallet.

If not, the seller can get it to Coolspring in October for us.

Thanks for any help!

Dolly

 

--

Jim French

fbi at insulate.co.uk

FBI Sig

http://www.insulate.co.uk

http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm

 

 


From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Jul 19 07:55:36 2011
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:55:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <20110719145541.473B693B6@smtp.wcoil.com>

Nope didn't get through, try again. LOL,     Mark


At 10:26 AM 7/19/2011, you wrote:
>Hi folks
>
>
>
>Just seeing if I can get messages to appear on the list now I've done a few
>tweaks to the email system.
>
>
>
>Dolly
>
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


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454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com  



From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Tue Jul 19 08:06:53 2011
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:06:53 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <20110719145541.473B693B6@smtp.wcoil.com>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
	<20110719145541.473B693B6@smtp.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <00ad01cc4625$7e8261f0$7b8725d0$@co.uk>

How I've missed you all ....

Dolly

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> 
> Nope didn't get through, try again. LOL,     Mark



From rob at rustyiron.com  Tue Jul 19 08:33:33 2011
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:33:33 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <0A4BBEAA-7720-4B25-A9C2-8973D2991733@rustyiron.com>


On Jul 19, 2011, at 7:26 AM, Jim French wrote:
> 
> Just seeing if I can get messages to appear on the list now I've done a few
> tweaks to the email system.

What did you do, buy a Mac?





From rob at rustyiron.com  Tue Jul 19 08:39:32 2011
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:39:32 -0700
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport
In-Reply-To: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>
References: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <A3ED092A-5A30-4850-9DC0-15D414D5D640@rustyiron.com>


On Jul 19, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Jim French wrote:

> Excellent!  Now I can repost to the list, FINALLY, after about a year of
> only being able to read messages or post via Arnie, I'm here with a request
> for help.
> 
> Jim and I will be coming to Portland this year and we've already purchased
> an engine.  Is there any chance of the Olde Iron Express getting this baby
> from Ann Arbor in Michigan down to Portland?  It weighs approx 2,400lbs,
> 7'5" long and 3'8" wide on a pallet.
> 
> If not, the seller can get it to Coolspring in October for us.
> 
> Thanks for any help!
> 
> Dolly

WHAT baby from Ann Arbor? 



From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Tue Jul 19 08:48:10 2011
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:48:10 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <0A4BBEAA-7720-4B25-A9C2-8973D2991733@rustyiron.com>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
	<0A4BBEAA-7720-4B25-A9C2-8973D2991733@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <00b201cc462b$42d5d5f0$c88181d0$@co.uk>

Not rich enough to buy expensive gadgets just because they've got a cute
logo on them.

Dolly

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner


> On Jul 19, 2011, at 7:26 AM, Jim French wrote:
> >
> > Just seeing if I can get messages to appear on the list now I've done a
few
> > tweaks to the email system.
> 
> What did you do, buy a Mac?





From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Tue Jul 19 09:00:04 2011
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:00:04 +0100
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport
In-Reply-To: <A3ED092A-5A30-4850-9DC0-15D414D5D640@rustyiron.com>
References: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>
	<A3ED092A-5A30-4850-9DC0-15D414D5D640@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <00b301cc462c$ec4e46c0$c4ead440$@co.uk>

Hi Rob

A Spence, Smith & Kootz (off eBay.)

Dolly

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner


> WHAT baby from Ann Arbor?



From oldengin1 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 19 10:11:04 2011
From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:11:04 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <00b201cc462b$42d5d5f0$c88181d0$@co.uk>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
	<0A4BBEAA-7720-4B25-A9C2-8973D2991733@rustyiron.com>
	<00b201cc462b$42d5d5f0$c88181d0$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <CAJ0UjPkiM10A3xMq+0DaqTey5K1q6UFF5AKNVOC_b=_CFHJR4A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi dolly

On Jul 19, 2011 11:57 AM, "Jim French" <fbi at insulate.co.uk> wrote:

Not rich enough to buy expensive gadgets just because they've got a cute
logo on them.


Dolly

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner



> On Jul 19, 2011, at 7:26 AM, Jim French wrote:
> >
> > Just seeing if I can get messages to appe...


From gasenginetom at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 19 10:34:39 2011
From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:34:39 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Winland engine party pictures
In-Reply-To: <CAJ0UjPkiM10A3xMq+0DaqTey5K1q6UFF5AKNVOC_b=_CFHJR4A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>,
	<0A4BBEAA-7720-4B25-A9C2-8973D2991733@rustyiron.com>,
	<00b201cc462b$42d5d5f0$c88181d0$@co.uk>,
	<CAJ0UjPkiM10A3xMq+0DaqTey5K1q6UFF5AKNVOC_b=_CFHJR4A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT131-W28EC5187FF3B952AE2AD37C24D0@phx.gbl>



Here is a link to some pictures of my engine party over the weekend.
 
http://gasenginetom.com/Engine_Get_Together_2011.html
 
Tom Winland
Ohio 		 	   		  

From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Jul 19 10:49:08 2011
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:49:08 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <00ad01cc4625$7e8261f0$7b8725d0$@co.uk>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
	<20110719145541.473B693B6@smtp.wcoil.com>
	<00ad01cc4625$7e8261f0$7b8725d0$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <20110719174912.4B9C99359@smtp.wcoil.com>


Welcome back!!!   We have missed the FBI too.


At 11:06 AM 7/19/2011, you wrote:
>How I've missed you all ....
>
>Dolly
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> >
> > Nope didn't get through, try again. LOL,     Mark
>
>_______________________________________________
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>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com  



From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Tue Jul 19 11:28:58 2011
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (kkinney at herculesengines.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:28:58 -0400
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport
In-Reply-To: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>
References: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <8b8f740c2374df44cdbcbd74217d01d0.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>



Great to have you back on the list.
If nothing else works out maybe
we can pick it up on our way from Baraboo to Portland.?
Keith

> Excellent! Now I can repost to the list, FINALLY, after about
a year of 
> only being able to read messages or post via Arnie,
I'm here with a 
> request 
> for help. 
> 
> Jim and I will be coming to Portland this year and we've already
purchased 
> an engine. Is there any chance of the Olde Iron
Express getting this baby 
> from Ann Arbor in Michigan down to
Portland? It weighs approx 2,400lbs, 
> 7'5" long and
3'8" wide on a pallet. 
> 
> If not, the seller can
get it to Coolspring in October for us. 
> 
> Thanks for
any help! 
> 
> Dolly 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Jim French 
> 
>
fbi at insulate.co.uk 
> 
> FBI Sig 
> 
>
http://www.insulate.co.uk 
> 
>
http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
_______________________________________________ 
> SEL mailing
list 
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com 
>
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 
> 



From rob at rustyiron.com  Tue Jul 19 12:25:54 2011
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:25:54 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <00b201cc462b$42d5d5f0$c88181d0$@co.uk>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
	<0A4BBEAA-7720-4B25-A9C2-8973D2991733@rustyiron.com>
	<00b201cc462b$42d5d5f0$c88181d0$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <2E66C041-E919-4386-8C3C-07637F56E03C@rustyiron.com>

On Jul 19, 2011,  "Jim French" wrote:

> Not rich enough to buy expensive gadgets just because they've got a cute
> logo on them.
> 
> Dolly

The Flame Mistress is BACK!





From yostsw at atis.net  Tue Jul 19 12:38:28 2011
From: yostsw at atis.net (Spencer Yost)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:38:28 -0400
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport
In-Reply-To: <8b8f740c2374df44cdbcbd74217d01d0.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>
References: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>
	<8b8f740c2374df44cdbcbd74217d01d0.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>
Message-ID: <D692BA2C-0DC2-4F83-8E6F-CDBAD21AC4AF@atis.net>

It's not even 400 miles round trip from Portland to Ann Arbor.  So if you can't line up someone to pick it up on their way into Portland, I'll bet someone would be more than happy to make a day trip from Portland for gas/beer (hopefully in that order).

Spencer

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 19, 2011, at 14:28, kkinney at herculesengines.com wrote:

> 
> 
> Great to have you back on the list.
> If nothing else works out maybe
> we can pick it up on our way from Baraboo to Portland. 
> Keith
> 
>> Excellent! Now I can repost to the list, FINALLY, after about
> a year of 
>> only being able to read messages or post via Arnie,
> I'm here with a 
>> request 
>> for help. 
>> 
>> Jim and I will be coming to Portland this year and we've already
> purchased 
>> an engine. Is there any chance of the Olde Iron
> Express getting this baby 
>> from Ann Arbor in Michigan down to
> Portland? It weighs approx 2,400lbs, 
>> 7'5" long and
> 3'8" wide on a pallet. 
>> 
>> If not, the seller can
> get it to Coolspring in October for us. 
>> 
>> Thanks for
> any help! 
>> 
>> Dolly 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> Jim French 
>> 
>> 
> fbi at insulate.co.uk 
>> 
>> FBI Sig 
>> 
>> 
> http://www.insulate.co.uk 
>> 
>> 
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> _______________________________________________ 
>> SEL mailing
> list 
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com 
>> 
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 
>> 
> 
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Jul 19 11:11:48 2011
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:11:48 +0200
Subject: [SEL]  ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1311091201.32734.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 19/07/2011, you wrote:
>Message: 4
>Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:52:12 +0100
>From: "Jim French" <fbi at insulate.co.uk>
>Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport
>To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>

>Excellent!  Now I can repost to the list, FINALLY, after about a year of
>only being able to read messages or post via Arnie, I'm here with a request
>for help.
>
>Jim and I will be coming to Portland this year and we've already purchased
>an engine.  Is there any chance of the Olde Iron Express getting this baby
>from Ann Arbor in Michigan down to Portland?  It weighs approx 2,400lbs,
>7'5" long and 3'8" wide on a pallet.
>If not, the seller can get it to Coolspring in October for us.
>Thanks for any help!
>Dolly

Hi Helen,
         Great to have you back - the lists have been very quiet of late - 
maybe you can inject some life into them again :-)

         ALSO, we need someone to keep Arnie in check :-)
Luv ya,
Jerry 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Jul 19 13:09:10 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:09:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
Message-ID: <f18f391580f39e86aa18b0b225972917.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

Good luck with THAT one mate.
Dolly no longer has direct control of my food & beer supplies.
She is POWERLESS to control me.  Bwahahahahahaha......

On Tue, July 19, 2011 2:11 pm, Jerry Evans wrote:
> Hi Helen,
> Great to have you back - the lists have been very quiet of late -
> maybe you can inject some life into them again :-)
>
> ALSO, we need someone to keep Arnie in check :-)





From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Tue Jul 19 13:13:02 2011
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:13:02 +0100
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport
In-Reply-To: <D692BA2C-0DC2-4F83-8E6F-CDBAD21AC4AF@atis.net>
References: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>	<8b8f740c2374df44cdbcbd74217d01d0.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>
	<D692BA2C-0DC2-4F83-8E6F-CDBAD21AC4AF@atis.net>
Message-ID: <00dc01cc4650$432a5ec0$c97f1c40$@co.uk>

Hi Spencer

I know it's not too far, but I was hoping no-one would have to go too far
out of their way.  I don't think we'd be able to fit it in a hire car!
And the seller CAN deliver it to Coolspring for free, but we wouldn't get
to see it then!!!
Of course, we'd be happy to reimburse any transport in the preferred
currency.

Dolly

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Spencer Yost
> 
> It's not even 400 miles round trip from Portland to Ann Arbor.  So if you
> can't line up someone to pick it up on their way into Portland, I'll bet
> someone would be more than happy to make a day trip from Portland for
gas/beer
> (hopefully in that order).
> 
> Spencer



From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Tue Jul 19 13:13:49 2011
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:13:49 +0100
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
References: <mailman.1.1311091201.32734.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com >
	<5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
Message-ID: <00dd01cc4650$5f85bd30$1e913790$@co.uk>

Oh please!
Jerry, I'm good, but not THAT good.

Dolly


> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Evans


> Hi Helen,
>          Great to have you back - the lists have been very quiet of late -
> maybe you can inject some life into them again :-)
> 
>          ALSO, we need someone to keep Arnie in check :-)
> Luv ya,
> Jerry



From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk  Tue Jul 19 14:00:09 2011
From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (Craig Morrison)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:00:09 +0100
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
	<f18f391580f39e86aa18b0b225972917.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <A4BE5A50BBF743B6B63AE5B8AF7DEB86@craig8b4f43368>

Atleast Dolly may be  able to control your Beer and Char supplies at 
Portland this year!! AAAAARRRRRHHHHHH!!!!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)


> Good luck with THAT one mate.
> Dolly no longer has direct control of my food & beer supplies.
> She is POWERLESS to control me.  Bwahahahahahaha......
>
> On Tue, July 19, 2011 2:11 pm, Jerry Evans wrote:
>> Hi Helen,
>> Great to have you back - the lists have been very quiet of late -
>> maybe you can inject some life into them again :-)
>>
>> ALSO, we need someone to keep Arnie in check :-)
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Jul 19 14:10:11 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:10:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
In-Reply-To: <A4BE5A50BBF743B6B63AE5B8AF7DEB86@craig8b4f43368>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
	<f18f391580f39e86aa18b0b225972917.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
	<A4BE5A50BBF743B6B63AE5B8AF7DEB86@craig8b4f43368>
Message-ID: <2753ba566910ac2b49e1a7d376d7042e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

HAH!!  Once Dolly gets outside of a couple of jars of that fine NC char,
she won't be in control of anything.  Least of all her legs.  8-))

On Tue, July 19, 2011 5:00 pm, Craig Morrison wrote:
> Atleast Dolly may be  able to control your Beer and Char supplies at
> Portland this year!! AAAAARRRRRHHHHHH!!!!





From rotigel at me.com  Tue Jul 19 14:21:16 2011
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:21:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport
In-Reply-To: <8b8f740c2374df44cdbcbd74217d01d0.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>
References: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>
	<8b8f740c2374df44cdbcbd74217d01d0.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>
Message-ID: <66D7A1C4-3021-4488-97D1-9EDE9AE2F007@me.com>

That would be about 500+ miles out of your way!
	Dave

On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:28 PM, kkinney at herculesengines.com wrote:

>
>
> Great to have you back on the list.
> If nothing else works out maybe
> we can pick it up on our way from Baraboo to Portland.
> Keith
>
>> Excellent! Now I can repost to the list, FINALLY, after about
> a year of
>> only being able to read messages or post via Arnie,
> I'm here with a
>> request
>> for help.
>>
>> Jim and I will be coming to Portland this year and we've already
> purchased
>> an engine. Is there any chance of the Olde Iron
> Express getting this baby
>> from Ann Arbor in Michigan down to
> Portland? It weighs approx 2,400lbs,
>> 7'5" long and
> 3'8" wide on a pallet.
>>
>> If not, the seller can
> get it to Coolspring in October for us.
>>
>> Thanks for
> any help!
>>
>> Dolly
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Jim French
>>
>>
> fbi at insulate.co.uk
>>
>> FBI Sig
>>
>>
> http://www.insulate.co.uk
>>
>>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing
> list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk  Tue Jul 19 14:25:15 2011
From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (Craig Morrison)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:25:15 +0100
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za><f18f391580f39e86aa18b0b225972917.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com><A4BE5A50BBF743B6B63AE5B8AF7DEB86@craig8b4f43368>
	<2753ba566910ac2b49e1a7d376d7042e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <D125BFAD9FBC4C8FAFB6CCDAC011BA65@craig8b4f43368>

As I remember you weren't in control of tour legs either.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)


> HAH!!  Once Dolly gets outside of a couple of jars of that fine NC char,
> she won't be in control of anything.  Least of all her legs.  8-))
> 
> On Tue, July 19, 2011 5:00 pm, Craig Morrison wrote:
>> Atleast Dolly may be  able to control your Beer and Char supplies at
>> Portland this year!! AAAAARRRRRHHHHHH!!!!
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Jul 19 14:43:56 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:43:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
In-Reply-To: <D125BFAD9FBC4C8FAFB6CCDAC011BA65@craig8b4f43368>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za><f18f391580f39e86aa18b0b225972917.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com><A4BE5A50BBF743B6B63AE5B8AF7DEB86@craig8b4f43368>
	<2753ba566910ac2b49e1a7d376d7042e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
	<D125BFAD9FBC4C8FAFB6CCDAC011BA65@craig8b4f43368>
Message-ID: <0ecbae87eea67dc31488d94b14f5b06f.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

It's called The Voice of Experience.  8-))

On Tue, July 19, 2011 5:25 pm, Craig Morrison wrote:
> As I remember you weren't in control of your legs either.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
>
>> HAH!!  Once Dolly gets outside of a couple of jars of that fine NC char,
>> she won't be in control of anything.  Least of all her legs.  8-))
>>
>> On Tue, July 19, 2011 5:00 pm, Craig Morrison wrote:
>>> Atleast Dolly may be  able to control your Beer and Char supplies at
>>> Portland this year!! AAAAARRRRRHHHHHH!!!!




From rotigel at me.com  Tue Jul 19 15:15:16 2011
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:15:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Arnie......
References: <E1QjBoS-00053a-HV@mail.oldengine.net>
Message-ID: <14C83E38-C601-4699-A0D5-7EB6CC57833F@me.com>

......this one has YOU written all over it!
	Dave


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From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Tue Jul 19 16:07:55 2011
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (kkinney at herculesengines.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:07:55 -0400
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport
In-Reply-To: <66D7A1C4-3021-4488-97D1-9EDE9AE2F007@me.com>
References: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>
	<8b8f740c2374df44cdbcbd74217d01d0.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>
	<66D7A1C4-3021-4488-97D1-9EDE9AE2F007@me.com>
Message-ID: <d649e3e7ca36f88b4b9ddd2c8e857aa9.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>

True, it would be out of the way.  But, to help a friend, why not,
everybody needs an engine to play with at Portland.

As I see it from Baraboo to Portland via the Southern route is 452 miles.
Baraboo to Ann Arbor is 429 miles.
Ann Arbor to Portland is 187 miles.
So it would really be only 225~ miles extra.
Keith


> That would be about 500+ miles out of your way!
> 	Dave
>
> On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:28 PM, kkinney at herculesengines.com wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Great to have you back on the list.
>> If nothing else works out maybe
>> we can pick it up on our way from Baraboo to Portland.
>> Keith
>>
>>> Excellent! Now I can repost to the list, FINALLY, after about
>> a year of
>>> only being able to read messages or post via Arnie,
>> I'm here with a
>>> request
>>> for help.
>>>
>>> Jim and I will be coming to Portland this year and we've already
>> purchased
>>> an engine. Is there any chance of the Olde Iron
>> Express getting this baby
>>> from Ann Arbor in Michigan down to
>> Portland? It weighs approx 2,400lbs,
>>> 7'5" long and
>> 3'8" wide on a pallet.
>>>
>>> If not, the seller can
>> get it to Coolspring in October for us.
>>>
>>> Thanks for
>> any help!
>>>
>>> Dolly
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Jim French
>>>
>>>
>> fbi at insulate.co.uk
>>>
>>> FBI Sig
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.insulate.co.uk
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing
>> list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
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>




From oldengin1 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 19 18:15:23 2011
From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:15:23 -0400
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport
In-Reply-To: <CAJ0UjPnZs0fmSpRVA-xj_C=mM+0gz=3jp2PCvgpMuniA1kYT+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>
	<8b8f740c2374df44cdbcbd74217d01d0.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>
	<66D7A1C4-3021-4488-97D1-9EDE9AE2F007@me.com>
	<d649e3e7ca36f88b4b9ddd2c8e857aa9.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>
	<CAJ0UjP=HKVW+tZ33zsBFwY3mk566yMBYQ5=qN0TFEhBrW3Hibw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ0UjPnwaSoHjiP1nQRiTEh-q1vMgmVt91gVTnTc6+_ySZAOBw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ0UjPnZs0fmSpRVA-xj_C=mM+0gz=3jp2PCvgpMuniA1kYT+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ0UjP=hnWGeWpyKsxCUHyRy_jwKJhOcgR-rF254OXAC5wfM0A@mail.gmail.com>

Jim contact me off list about your engine move. I have a friend in battle
creek. Leroy

On Jul 19, 2011 7:17 PM, <kkinney at herculesengines.com> wrote:

True, it would be out of the way.  But, to help a friend, why not,
everybody needs an engine to play with at Portland.

As I see it from Baraboo to Portland via the Southern route is 452 miles.
Baraboo to Ann Arbor is 429 miles.
Ann Arbor to Portland is 187 miles.
So it would really be only 225~ miles extra.
Keith



> That would be about 500+ miles out of your way!
> Dave
>
> On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:28 PM, kkinney...


From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 19 18:23:34 2011
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:23:34 -0400
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
In-Reply-To: <0ecbae87eea67dc31488d94b14f5b06f.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za><f18f391580f39e86aa18b0b225972917.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com><A4BE5A50BBF743B6B63AE5B8AF7DEB86@craig8b4f43368>,
	<2753ba566910ac2b49e1a7d376d7042e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>,
	<D125BFAD9FBC4C8FAFB6CCDAC011BA65@craig8b4f43368>,
	<0ecbae87eea67dc31488d94b14f5b06f.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <col112-w454211403DBD1F940D065E954C0@phx.gbl>


We are well stocked with ample CHAR for Portland's finest!
See you all there  under the tent,  get ready!

 

> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:43:56 -0400
> From: fero_ah at city-net.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
> 
> It's called The Voice of Experience. 8-))
> 
> On Tue, July 19, 2011 5:25 pm, Craig Morrison wrote:
> > As I remember you weren't in control of your legs either.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> >
> >> HAH!! Once Dolly gets outside of a couple of jars of that fine NC char,
> >> she won't be in control of anything. Least of all her legs. 8-))
> >>
> >> On Tue, July 19, 2011 5:00 pm, Craig Morrison wrote:
> >>> Atleast Dolly may be able to control your Beer and Char supplies at
> >>> Portland this year!! AAAAARRRRRHHHHHH!!!!
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Tue Jul 19 19:54:10 2011
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (kkinney at herculesengines.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:54:10 -0400
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
In-Reply-To: <col112-w454211403DBD1F940D065E954C0@phx.gbl>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za><f18f391580f39e86aa18b0b225972917.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com><A4BE5A50BBF743B6B63AE5B8AF7DEB86@craig8b4f43368>,
	<2753ba566910ac2b49e1a7d376d7042e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>,
	<D125BFAD9FBC4C8FAFB6CCDAC011BA65@craig8b4f43368>,
	<0ecbae87eea67dc31488d94b14f5b06f.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
	<col112-w454211403DBD1F940D065E954C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1ff4a512e3c53a5e2b1a5f19d5e6138a.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>

Just when my liver thought it was save to come out......
Keith


>
> We are well stocked with ample CHAR for Portland's finest!
> See you all there  under the tent,  get ready!
>
>
>
>> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:43:56 -0400
>> From: fero_ah at city-net.com
>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
>>
>> It's called The Voice of Experience. 8-))
>>
>> On Tue, July 19, 2011 5:25 pm, Craig Morrison wrote:
>> > As I remember you weren't in control of your legs either.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
>> >
>> >> HAH!! Once Dolly gets outside of a couple of jars of that fine NC
>> char,
>> >> she won't be in control of anything. Least of all her legs. 8-))
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, July 19, 2011 5:00 pm, Craig Morrison wrote:
>> >>> Atleast Dolly may be able to control your Beer and Char supplies at
>> >>> Portland this year!! AAAAARRRRRHHHHHH!!!!
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Jul 19 21:42:27 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 00:42:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
In-Reply-To: <1ff4a512e3c53a5e2b1a5f19d5e6138a.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za><f18f391580f39e86aa18b0b225972917.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com><A4BE5A50BBF743B6B63AE5B8AF7DEB86@craig8b4f43368>,
	<2753ba566910ac2b49e1a7d376d7042e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>,
	<D125BFAD9FBC4C8FAFB6CCDAC011BA65@craig8b4f43368>,
	<0ecbae87eea67dc31488d94b14f5b06f.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
	<col112-w454211403DBD1F940D065E954C0@phx.gbl>
	<1ff4a512e3c53a5e2b1a5f19d5e6138a.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>
Message-ID: <39118a132e1b270f8ad00dc56fa62f3c.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com>

Liver is EVIL and must be punished!

On Tue, July 19, 2011 10:54 pm, kkinney at herculesengines.com wrote:
> Just when my liver thought it was save to come out......
> Keith




From cgandree at mchsi.com  Wed Jul 20 06:31:49 2011
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:31:49 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <2063941533.6019031311168709634.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

Hi ya Dolly,
Good to see you back on the lists.
Regards,
Curt Andree


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim French" <fbi at insulate.co.uk>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 9:26:35 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [SEL] Test

Hi folks

 

Just seeing if I can get messages to appear on the list now I've done a few
tweaks to the email system.

 

Dolly

 

 

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From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Wed Jul 20 06:42:23 2011
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:42:23 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <2063941533.6019031311168709634.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
	<2063941533.6019031311168709634.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
Message-ID: <005201cc46e2$db438410$91ca8c30$@co.uk>

We've been here all the time, Curt - just relegated to lurking by
technology!

Dolly

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of cgandree at mchsi.com
> 
> Hi ya Dolly,
> Good to see you back on the lists.
> Regards,
> Curt Andree



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Thu Jul 21 10:49:44 2011
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:49:44 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <005201cc46e2$db438410$91ca8c30$@co.uk>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>	<2063941533.6019031311168709634.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
	<005201cc46e2$db438410$91ca8c30$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <005f01cc47ce$96c85c10$c4591430$@com>

Dolly,
	Welcome back!  I sure wished you and the gang could make it to
Portland!

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim French
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:42 AM
To: 'The SEL email discussion list'
Subject: Re: [SEL] Test

We've been here all the time, Curt - just relegated to lurking by
technology!

Dolly




From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Thu Jul 21 14:36:04 2011
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:36:04 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <005f01cc47ce$96c85c10$c4591430$@com>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>	<2063941533.6019031311168709634.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>	<005201cc46e2$db438410$91ca8c30$@co.uk>
	<005f01cc47ce$96c85c10$c4591430$@com>
Message-ID: <00f801cc47ee$31eb1420$95c13c60$@co.uk>

See you there, Tommy - just looking at flights!

Dolly

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Judge Tommy Turner


> Dolly,
> 	Welcome back!  I sure wished you and the gang could make it to
> Portland!
> 
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY





From blcksmth at wcnet.org  Sat Jul 23 17:39:01 2011
From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 20:39:01 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <B7F51B15741247D2862AE2A7677DD9D7@Eagle>



Bob Willman
The Eagle's Anvil
WB8NQW
Bowling Green, Ohio

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government
from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of
them.

Thomas Jefferson




From blcksmth at wcnet.org  Sat Jul 23 17:40:47 2011
From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 20:40:47 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <005f01cc47ce$96c85c10$c4591430$@com>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>	<2063941533.6019031311168709634.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11><005201cc46e2$db438410$91ca8c30$@co.uk>
	<005f01cc47ce$96c85c10$c4591430$@com>
Message-ID: <EFFEB61AC6DC4E6DAD1D298D2A95E5EE@Eagle>

 


Bob Willman
The Eagle's Anvil
WB8NQW
Bowling Green, Ohio

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government
from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of
them.

Thomas Jefferson




From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Sat Jul 23 18:12:30 2011
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 11:12:30 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <EFFEB61AC6DC4E6DAD1D298D2A95E5EE@Eagle>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>	<2063941533.6019031311168709634.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11><005201cc46e2$db438410$91ca8c30$@co.uk>
	<005f01cc47ce$96c85c10$c4591430$@com>
	<EFFEB61AC6DC4E6DAD1D298D2A95E5EE@Eagle>
Message-ID: <4E2B717E.5070201@optusnet.com.au>

On 24/07/2011 10:40 AM, Bob Willman wrote:
>
>
>
> Bob Willman
> The Eagle's Anvil
> WB8NQW
> Bowling Green, Ohio
>
> I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government
> from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of
> them.
>
> Thomas Jefferson
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
Bob you arrived twice in Oz

Kerry


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Jul 24 22:07:14 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 06:07:14 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
In-Reply-To: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00JcocTM6aJs=Cjd1SS++Lp5sfSh_NKqqvGo_byy6emHiw@mail.gmail.com>

On 6 July 2011 14:10, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/suffolk_gas_engine_deception_case_opened_1_954052

There may be more activity in this matter, apparently the Police are
seeking information on other transactions/thefts and are asking for
others who may have dealt with the accused to come forward.

I'll post more info as soon as we hear back from the Police or the
others involved in the prosecution.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 24 23:55:33 2011
From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 06:55:33 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
In-Reply-To: <CAMEZ00JcocTM6aJs=Cjd1SS++Lp5sfSh_NKqqvGo_byy6emHiw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAMEZ00JcocTM6aJs=Cjd1SS++Lp5sfSh_NKqqvGo_byy6emHiw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT107-W36F3D72E3ACE74FC238484D0330@phx.gbl>


Thanks Peter,there may be more fake engines out there.   John

> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 06:07:14 +0100
> From: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> CC: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
> 
> On 6 July 2011 14:10, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> > http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/suffolk_gas_engine_deception_case_opened_1_954052
> 
> There may be more activity in this matter, apparently the Police are
> seeking information on other transactions/thefts and are asking for
> others who may have dealt with the accused to come forward.
> 
> I'll post more info as soon as we hear back from the Police or the
> others involved in the prosecution.
> 
> Peter
> -- 
> Peter A Forbes
> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
> http://stationary-engine.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.co.uk
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Jul 25 06:41:57 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:41:57 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
In-Reply-To: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00LQ=Wud1xnLYQ8R5EGQRr47MF2uw3NB9QbgTRxOQy+9Dg@mail.gmail.com>

On 6 July 2011 14:10, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/suffolk_gas_engine_deception_case_opened_1_954052

The following was posted by Geoff Challinor on the UK Stationary
Engine Forum today:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hi all
You will no doubt have noticed that I have kept off the various engine
news/forum sites for many years now.

Since the theft 11 years ago and the arson attack on my home, I
decided that it would be best not to get drawn on various comments and
criticisms about me, as I knew, that if the culprits of some of the
crimes should ever be bought to court, they would use any tactics to
get off. This proved to be so as this forum was mentioned in court.

I will in due course explain things in full but I am at the moment
trying to come to terms with 11 years of hell.

The Rotary valve Crossley will now be returned to the owner who kindly
loaned it to us many years ago. Some of the other stolen engines were
mentioned in court specifically that Green claimed to have collected
the O type Gardner gas engine for a friend (who was named in court)
and shipped it to him. This friend?s home is also where the Gardner
was recovered from in 2001. This friend also had some of our
lubricators, a magneto, a photo taken outside his back door of one of
the stolen models and he had sold the stolen Robinson to a very honest
collector who got suspicious of it, and that started some more police
investigations. I must point out that the ?friend? wasn't present in
court to defend himself against any implied or expressed allegations
that were made. Their name was also mentioned as being the buyer of
the National engine serial number 5469 in Australia.

A big thank you to all those who have stayed loyal and supported me
and the museum over the last few years, I hope now to be able to
contribute again to this and other sites.

 Geoff
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Jul 25 09:46:08 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:46:08 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
In-Reply-To: <CAMEZ00LQ=Wud1xnLYQ8R5EGQRr47MF2uw3NB9QbgTRxOQy+9Dg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMEZ00LQ=Wud1xnLYQ8R5EGQRr47MF2uw3NB9QbgTRxOQy+9Dg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00KxO07VaUgA_2C=W2AnZ9+CeRvAzfBN5A3RVOGEHxHLMQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 25 July 2011 14:41, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> The following was posted by Geoff Challinor on the UK Stationary
> Engine Forum today:

More from Geoff:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
More from Geoff Challinor on the still missing engines:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Judge did ask me what engines have still not been recovered. I
told him and would appreciate any information that might be out there
that would help us track them down. So just in case you know anything
they are}

 ? Gardner O type petrol engine No 24803

 But I doubt it will have that number, has anyone seen one with no
number on it or part of a number?

 The recovered Gardner had been re stamped and all that could be seen
was the first 3 digits 145 the last 2 digits were not readable, but a
piece of paper found in the workshop where the Gardner was recovered
from said 14576 Gardner O type. I think someone must have realised
that may not be a correct number and filed the rest off again hoping
it could not be traced. Having checked the Gardner records No O types
were built starting with 145.

It has been suggested that the arson attack on my house was to destroy
Gardner and Crossley records but as they weren?t I'm not sure, also
the Arson only happened after the first engines where recovered. But I
suppose only I really knew that the records where safe elsewhere and
it was only fairly recently that the fake Crossleys came to light with
an incorrect serial number.

 ? Hartop S type the one with the rotary side shaft

 Does anyone have any photos of it in the museum as the ones we have
do not show certain details?

 ? Half scale Robinson gas engine

 ? Half scale Gardner gas engine

 ? Model table steam engine

 ? Model horizontal steam engine

 ? Crossley, Hornsby and various other lubricators.

Please contact me via private message on this website or via
[email]enquiry at enginemuseum.org[/email] or tel 01625 874426 (+44 1625
874426 for overseas users)

Or phone UK Crime Stoppers on 0800 555 111 anonymously. (+44 800 555
111) There is an online form as well:

https://secure.crimestoppers-uk.org/ams.form.anonymous.asp

 Many thanks, Geoff
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk



From enquiry at enginemuseum.org  Thu Jul 28 02:58:52 2011
From: enquiry at enginemuseum.org (Anson Engine Museum)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:58:52 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
References: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMEZ00LQ=Wud1xnLYQ8R5EGQRr47MF2uw3NB9QbgTRxOQy+9Dg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5FC4CE656C74452DACDD269EBE98AA2C@ANSON2>

thanks Peter, I have signed up for the list but cannot seem to figure a way 
to get into it and read what is posted.

Any tips?

thanks, Margaret
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Listerdiesel" <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Cc: "Stationary-Engine" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines


On 6 July 2011 14:10, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/suffolk_gas_engine_deception_case_opened_1_954052

The following was posted by Geoff Challinor on the UK Stationary
Engine Forum today:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hi all
You will no doubt have noticed that I have kept off the various engine
news/forum sites for many years now.

Since the theft 11 years ago and the arson attack on my home, I
decided that it would be best not to get drawn on various comments and
criticisms about me, as I knew, that if the culprits of some of the
crimes should ever be bought to court, they would use any tactics to
get off. This proved to be so as this forum was mentioned in court.

I will in due course explain things in full but I am at the moment
trying to come to terms with 11 years of hell.

The Rotary valve Crossley will now be returned to the owner who kindly
loaned it to us many years ago. Some of the other stolen engines were
mentioned in court specifically that Green claimed to have collected
the O type Gardner gas engine for a friend (who was named in court)
and shipped it to him. This friend?s home is also where the Gardner
was recovered from in 2001. This friend also had some of our
lubricators, a magneto, a photo taken outside his back door of one of
the stolen models and he had sold the stolen Robinson to a very honest
collector who got suspicious of it, and that started some more police
investigations. I must point out that the ?friend? wasn't present in
court to defend himself against any implied or expressed allegations
that were made. Their name was also mentioned as being the buyer of
the National engine serial number 5469 in Australia.

A big thank you to all those who have stayed loyal and supported me
and the museum over the last few years, I hope now to be able to
contribute again to this and other sites.

 Geoff
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk

_______________________________________________
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http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Thu Jul 28 03:14:07 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 11:14:07 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
In-Reply-To: <5FC4CE656C74452DACDD269EBE98AA2C@ANSON2>
References: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMEZ00LQ=Wud1xnLYQ8R5EGQRr47MF2uw3NB9QbgTRxOQy+9Dg@mail.gmail.com>
	<5FC4CE656C74452DACDD269EBE98AA2C@ANSON2>
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00KHoEP4DoaEvB2djajjCVc+tsuTKnQC-2Rw-OM9oEKgwQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 28 July 2011 10:58, Anson Engine Museum <enquiry at enginemuseum.org> wrote:
> thanks Peter, I have signed up for the list but cannot seem to figure a way
> to get into it and read what is posted.
>
> Any tips?
>
> thanks, Margaret

You've done it already, your post to SEL is repeated out to all members.

It's very quiet at present, so don't worry, and you can also sign up
for the Digest, which is sent weekly or monthly by memory.

It isn't like the Forum where your posts are always there, the SEL and
Oldengine lists are just email repeaters, they re-bradcast what has
been sent to them.

Hope this helps!

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From frappi at wcoil.com  Thu Jul 28 07:03:20 2011
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:03:20 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7>
	<18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus>
	<002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7>
	<4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com>
	<A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER>
Message-ID: <20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>

Hi All,          Looking forward to seeing you all. Preparations at 
the Hancock County Fairgrounds start this Sunday so time at the 
keyboard for me is going to get slimmer then usual.
Folks can come and start speaking for their display spot Monday 
afternoon at 5 pm and exhibit set up can start Tuesday at noon. We 
will put your name on a display spot for you at your request but you 
must be present to speak for the spot. Or have a buddy speak for a 
spot for you. The spot is to be occupied by Thursday morning opening 
day of the show as by noon if you are not using it and someone comes 
that will we will give the spot away.
We usually do a corn roast for exhibitors on Friday evening. But 
considering the temps of late we are not going to decide for sure on 
that till the day, Will play that one by ear. Our fearless leader 
Jack W. is getting grumpy with the combination of heat and old age, 
LOL Don't tell him I said that GRINN. So give him words of 
encouragement through the week.
We still plan to have a splash of fuel for exhibit engines.
  This year we are encouraging the display of  LANTERNS, from barn to 
rail or firemans to camping lanterns, road and construction warning 
flares.  Any kind of vintage light fueled by a combustible fluid. One 
would normally think Kerosene lanterns but there are other fuels for 
lanterns. Pressure lanterns like the Coleman are a prime example. And 
there are more types of vintage lights then lanterns. Yellow Dogs as 
a example that comes to mind.  Larry Swartz has lead the way with 
encouraging that at a couple other shows in the area and its been a 
big success. So even if you do not plan to light it bring it. Don't 
care to keep what you got bring it to sell. Got spare parts going to 
no good use bring them to sell.
   There is no official organization of this aspect of the show we 
are just encouraging people to bring lanterns to add to their 
displays.  Last year one display had over 50 lanterns.

Looking forward to seeing everyone again!.  As usual if you have a 
few engine related items to sell bring it along with your 
display.   If all you want to do is sell engines come too we have a 
area just for engine parts venders by donation.
  Any questions call me at home 419.358.5206  or by cell 419.516.2996
Check out the web site too and see if that will answer your 
questions. http://www.nwoantiquemachinery.com/

Mark



Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com  



From gasenginetom at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 28 07:26:10 2011
From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:26:10 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7>,
	<18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus>,
	<002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7>,
	<4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com>,
	<A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER>,
	<20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <SNT131-W58D5C60086C27B1821C37BC2340@phx.gbl>


Thanks for the invite but I won't be able to attend this year due to picking up several trailers full of engines that I purchased and need to get home before Portland to sell hopefully alot of them.  :)
 
thanks
Tom Winland
Ohio
 

> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:03:20 -0400
> To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
> From: frappi at wcoil.com
> CC: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
> 
> Hi All, Looking forward to seeing you all. Preparations at 
> the Hancock County Fairgrounds start this Sunday so time at the 
> keyboard for me is going to get slimmer then usual.
> Folks can come and start speaking for their display spot Monday 
> afternoon at 5 pm and exhibit set up can start Tuesday at noon. We 
> will put your name on a display spot for you at your request but you 
> must be present to speak for the spot. Or have a buddy speak for a 
> spot for you. The spot is to be occupied by Thursday morning opening 
> day of the show as by noon if you are not using it and someone comes 
> that will we will give the spot away.
> We usually do a corn roast for exhibitors on Friday evening. But 
> considering the temps of late we are not going to decide for sure on 
> that till the day, Will play that one by ear. Our fearless leader 
> Jack W. is getting grumpy with the combination of heat and old age, 
> LOL Don't tell him I said that GRINN. So give him words of 
> encouragement through the week.
> We still plan to have a splash of fuel for exhibit engines.
> This year we are encouraging the display of LANTERNS, from barn to 
> rail or firemans to camping lanterns, road and construction warning 
> flares. Any kind of vintage light fueled by a combustible fluid. One 
> would normally think Kerosene lanterns but there are other fuels for 
> lanterns. Pressure lanterns like the Coleman are a prime example. And 
> there are more types of vintage lights then lanterns. Yellow Dogs as 
> a example that comes to mind. Larry Swartz has lead the way with 
> encouraging that at a couple other shows in the area and its been a 
> big success. So even if you do not plan to light it bring it. Don't 
> care to keep what you got bring it to sell. Got spare parts going to 
> no good use bring them to sell.
> There is no official organization of this aspect of the show we 
> are just encouraging people to bring lanterns to add to their 
> displays. Last year one display had over 50 lanterns.
> 
> Looking forward to seeing everyone again!. As usual if you have a 
> few engine related items to sell bring it along with your 
> display. If all you want to do is sell engines come too we have a 
> area just for engine parts venders by donation.
> Any questions call me at home 419.358.5206 or by cell 419.516.2996
> Check out the web site too and see if that will answer your 
> questions. http://www.nwoantiquemachinery.com/
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Shulaw
> 454 County Road 33
> Bluffton, OH. 45817
> USA
> 
> Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
> Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
> VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From don.h at wcoil.com  Thu Jul 28 10:32:51 2011
From: don.h at wcoil.com (don.h at wcoil.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:32:51 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7><18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus><002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7><4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com><A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER>
	<20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <313197BEE33B49DFB7DB42F9CDCFE1F0@DonPC>

also Mark  tell everbody   Friday night we are going to have our own country 
music jam at the mini park starting at 730 PM    singing old 50 60 style 
country music    NO ELECTRIC INSTRUMENTS   please you will be asked not to 
plug them in This way we wont have any hard hearing old foggie like me 
cranking it up drowing the rest out.
Ought to be fun I have a gang coming from our area that go to my jam coming 
there just to play .
Please pass the word to our fellow engine guys and gals .Everbody gets to do 
3 numbers if you sing tell jokes or play the spoons then we go to the next 
person around the room then start over will play till we run out of steam I 
hope to make this a big event for everbody on friday night after the corn 
roast Sorry I cant pay anybody or even get them in free come early and enjoy 
the show then top it off with good old music and maybe even a square dance 
or to We have a  man who has been calling for over 45 yrs and still playing 
every week he just celebrated his 82 birthday
Thanks   Don


-----Original Message----- 
From: Mark Shulaw
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 10:03 AM
To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Cc: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show

Hi All,          Looking forward to seeing you all. Preparations at
the Hancock County Fairgrounds start this Sunday so time at the
keyboard for me is going to get slimmer then usual.
Folks can come and start speaking for their display spot Monday
afternoon at 5 pm and exhibit set up can start Tuesday at noon. We
will put your name on a display spot for you at your request but you
must be present to speak for the spot. Or have a buddy speak for a
spot for you. The spot is to be occupied by Thursday morning opening
day of the show as by noon if you are not using it and someone comes
that will we will give the spot away.
We usually do a corn roast for exhibitors on Friday evening. But
considering the temps of late we are not going to decide for sure on
that till the day, Will play that one by ear. Our fearless leader
Jack W. is getting grumpy with the combination of heat and old age,
LOL Don't tell him I said that GRINN. So give him words of
encouragement through the week.
We still plan to have a splash of fuel for exhibit engines.
  This year we are encouraging the display of  LANTERNS, from barn to
rail or firemans to camping lanterns, road and construction warning
flares.  Any kind of vintage light fueled by a combustible fluid. One
would normally think Kerosene lanterns but there are other fuels for
lanterns. Pressure lanterns like the Coleman are a prime example. And
there are more types of vintage lights then lanterns. Yellow Dogs as
a example that comes to mind.  Larry Swartz has lead the way with
encouraging that at a couple other shows in the area and its been a
big success. So even if you do not plan to light it bring it. Don't
care to keep what you got bring it to sell. Got spare parts going to
no good use bring them to sell.
   There is no official organization of this aspect of the show we
are just encouraging people to bring lanterns to add to their
displays.  Last year one display had over 50 lanterns.

Looking forward to seeing everyone again!.  As usual if you have a
few engine related items to sell bring it along with your
display.   If all you want to do is sell engines come too we have a
area just for engine parts venders by donation.
  Any questions call me at home 419.358.5206  or by cell 419.516.2996
Check out the web site too and see if that will answer your
questions. http://www.nwoantiquemachinery.com/

Mark



Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com

_______________________________________________
SEL mailing list
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Jul 28 12:39:06 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:39:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <SNT131-W58D5C60086C27B1821C37BC2340@phx.gbl>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7>,
	<18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus>,
	<002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7>,
	<4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com>,
	<A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER>,
	<20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>
	<SNT131-W58D5C60086C27B1821C37BC2340@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <45250cdc86ef12631cc58bc7aad7cec4.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

Hi Tom,

Why not post a list and a link to pics?  Maybe get some pre-sold before
Portland?

See ya,  Arnie

On Thu, July 28, 2011 10:26 am, Tom Winland wrote:
>
> Thanks for the invite but I won't be able to attend this year due to
> picking up several trailers full of engines that I purchased and need to
> get home before Portland to sell hopefully alot of them.  :)
>
> thanks
> Tom Winland
> Ohio




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Jul 28 12:43:58 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:43:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <313197BEE33B49DFB7DB42F9CDCFE1F0@DonPC>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7><18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus><002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7><4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com><A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER>
	<20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>
	<313197BEE33B49DFB7DB42F9CDCFE1F0@DonPC>
Message-ID: <9945bc191817cef37e17dc4ca453e002.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

Don, that sounds like fun.  Where is the "mini park"?

See ya there,  Arnie

On Thu, July 28, 2011 1:32 pm, don.h at wcoil.com wrote:
> also Mark  tell everbody   Friday night we are going to have our own
> country
> music jam at the mini park starting at 730 PM    singing old 50 60 style
> country music    NO ELECTRIC INSTRUMENTS   please you will be asked not to
> plug them in This way we wont have any hard hearing old foggie like me
> cranking it up drowing the rest out.
> Ought to be fun I have a gang coming from our area that go to my jam
> coming
> there just to play .
> Please pass the word to our fellow engine guys and gals .Everbody gets to
> do
> 3 numbers if you sing tell jokes or play the spoons then we go to the next
> person around the room then start over will play till we run out of steam
> I
> hope to make this a big event for everbody on friday night after the corn
> roast Sorry I cant pay anybody or even get them in free come early and
> enjoy
> the show then top it off with good old music and maybe even a square dance
> or to We have a  man who has been calling for over 45 yrs and still
> playing
> every week he just celebrated his 82 birthday
> Thanks   Don




From gasenginetom at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 28 12:53:15 2011
From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:53:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <45250cdc86ef12631cc58bc7aad7cec4.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7>, ,
	<18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus>, ,
	<002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7>, ,
	<4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com>, ,
	<A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER>, ,
	<20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>,
	<SNT131-W58D5C60086C27B1821C37BC2340@phx.gbl>,
	<45250cdc86ef12631cc58bc7aad7cec4.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <SNT131-W8359BCF4A7859E5B30A29C2340@phx.gbl>


Good idea Arnie,
 
I'll try to do that once I get them home next weekend.  I'm not sure what all I got in this bunch.  I know there is about 100 hit miss engines, alot of aircooled engines, and several old steel wheeled walk behind garden tractors.
 
Tom
 

> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:39:06 -0400
> From: fero_ah at city-net.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
> 
> Hi Tom,
> 
> Why not post a list and a link to pics? Maybe get some pre-sold before
> Portland?
> 
> See ya, Arnie
> 
> On Thu, July 28, 2011 10:26 am, Tom Winland wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the invite but I won't be able to attend this year due to
> > picking up several trailers full of engines that I purchased and need to
> > get home before Portland to sell hopefully alot of them. :)
> >
> > thanks
> > Tom Winland
> > Ohio
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Jul 28 13:01:24 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:01:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <SNT131-W8359BCF4A7859E5B30A29C2340@phx.gbl>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7>, ,
	<18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus>,
	<002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7>,
	<4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com>,
	<A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER>,
	<20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>,
	<SNT131-W58D5C60086C27B1821C37BC2340@phx.gbl>,
	<45250cdc86ef12631cc58bc7aad7cec4.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
	<SNT131-W8359BCF4A7859E5B30A29C2340@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <ff3c2ddad55a8926090d271786599553.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

Hi Tom,

I saw a YouTube video of a previous trailer load arriving at your place.
You've got a seriously righteous olde iron hauler there!  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

On Thu, July 28, 2011 3:53 pm, Tom Winland wrote:
>
> I'll try to do that once I get them home next weekend.  I'm not sure what
> all I got in this bunch.  I know there is about 100 hit miss engines, alot
> of aircooled engines, and several old steel wheeled walk behind garden
> tractors.





From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Jul 28 13:16:01 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:16:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7>
	<18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus>
	<002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7>
	<4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com>
	<A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER>
	<20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <934db8abe4c5278dca81231a69ae8aa5.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

Hi Mark,

Leroy's got Dave and I setup down in the Low Rent District in the flood
plain alongside the river.  We are SOOO looking forward to it.

IMHO, the Findlay show is one of the top shows; right up there with
Portland and Coolspring.  And in terms of how exhibitors are treated by
the club sponsoring the show, Findlay is clearly #1.

I REALLY hope that folks don't decide to cancel the Friday evening corn
roast.  It's the one thing that I look forward to all year
(...B_U_R_P...).

If you've never been to Findlay, why not give it a try this year?  It's
also a good place to tune-up your Portland exhibit.

See ya,  Arnie

On Thu, July 28, 2011 10:03 am, Mark Shulaw wrote:
> Hi All,          Looking forward to seeing you all. Preparations at
> the Hancock County Fairgrounds start this Sunday so time at the
> keyboard for me is going to get slimmer then usual.
> Folks can come and start speaking for their display spot Monday
> afternoon at 5 pm and exhibit set up can start Tuesday at noon. We
> will put your name on a display spot for you at your request but you
> must be present to speak for the spot. Or have a buddy speak for a
> spot for you. The spot is to be occupied by Thursday morning opening
> day of the show as by noon if you are not using it and someone comes
> that will we will give the spot away.
> We usually do a corn roast for exhibitors on Friday evening. But
> considering the temps of late we are not going to decide for sure on
> that till the day, Will play that one by ear. Our fearless leader
> Jack W. is getting grumpy with the combination of heat and old age,
> LOL Don't tell him I said that GRINN. So give him words of
> encouragement through the week.
> We still plan to have a splash of fuel for exhibit engines.
>   This year we are encouraging the display of  LANTERNS, from barn to
> rail or firemans to camping lanterns, road and construction warning
> flares.  Any kind of vintage light fueled by a combustible fluid. One
> would normally think Kerosene lanterns but there are other fuels for
> lanterns. Pressure lanterns like the Coleman are a prime example. And
> there are more types of vintage lights then lanterns. Yellow Dogs as
> a example that comes to mind.  Larry Swartz has lead the way with
> encouraging that at a couple other shows in the area and its been a
> big success. So even if you do not plan to light it bring it. Don't
> care to keep what you got bring it to sell. Got spare parts going to
> no good use bring them to sell.
>    There is no official organization of this aspect of the show we
> are just encouraging people to bring lanterns to add to their
> displays.  Last year one display had over 50 lanterns.
>
> Looking forward to seeing everyone again!.  As usual if you have a
> few engine related items to sell bring it along with your
> display.   If all you want to do is sell engines come too we have a
> area just for engine parts venders by donation.
>   Any questions call me at home 419.358.5206  or by cell 419.516.2996
> Check out the web site too and see if that will answer your
> questions. http://www.nwoantiquemachinery.com/




From rotigel at me.com  Thu Jul 28 13:37:38 2011
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:37:38 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <934db8abe4c5278dca81231a69ae8aa5.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7>
	<18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus>
	<002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7>
	<4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com>
	<A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER>
	<20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>
	<934db8abe4c5278dca81231a69ae8aa5.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <3DA858CC-E921-4AC6-8885-06D5232B9D4E@me.com>

Hell Arnie, You start looking forward to next years corn roast about  
9:30 every Friday night we are at the Findlay show! What's new?
	Dave

On Jul 28, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
>
> I REALLY hope that folks don't decide to cancel the Friday evening  
> corn
> roast.  It's the one thing that I look forward to all year
> (...B_U_R_P...).
>
> See ya,  Arnie



From frappi at wcoil.com  Thu Jul 28 14:41:29 2011
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 17:41:29 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <313197BEE33B49DFB7DB42F9CDCFE1F0@DonPC>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7>
	<18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus>
	<002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7>
	<4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com>
	<A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER>
	<20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>
	<313197BEE33B49DFB7DB42F9CDCFE1F0@DonPC>
Message-ID: <20110728214129.817A597E3@smtp.wcoil.com>

I think you just did tell everyone Don ;-) besides there so much to 
talk about at this show theres literally not enough room here to do 
it. And I don't have the time to write it, LOL    Mark


At 01:32 PM 7/28/2011, you wrote:
>also Mark  tell everbody   Friday night we are going to have our own country
>music jam at the mini park starting at 730 PM    singing old 50 60 style
>country music    NO ELECTRIC INSTRUMENTS   please you will be asked not to
>plug them in This way we wont have any hard hearing old foggie like me
>cranking it up drowing the rest out.
>Ought to be fun I have a gang coming from our area that go to my jam coming
>there just to play .
>Please pass the word to our fellow engine guys and gals .Everbody gets to do
>3 numbers if you sing tell jokes or play the spoons then we go to the next
>person around the room then start over will play till we run out of steam I
>hope to make this a big event for everbody on friday night after the corn
>roast Sorry I cant pay anybody or even get them in free come early and enjoy
>the show then top it off with good old music and maybe even a square dance
>or to We have a  man who has been calling for over 45 yrs and still playing
>every week he just celebrated his 82 birthday
>Thanks   Don
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Shulaw
>Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 10:03 AM
>To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
>Cc: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
>
>Hi All,          Looking forward to seeing you all. Preparations at
>the Hancock County Fairgrounds start this Sunday so time at the
>keyboard for me is going to get slimmer then usual.
>Folks can come and start speaking for their display spot Monday
>afternoon at 5 pm and exhibit set up can start Tuesday at noon. We
>will put your name on a display spot for you at your request but you
>must be present to speak for the spot. Or have a buddy speak for a
>spot for you. The spot is to be occupied by Thursday morning opening
>day of the show as by noon if you are not using it and someone comes
>that will we will give the spot away.
>We usually do a corn roast for exhibitors on Friday evening. But
>considering the temps of late we are not going to decide for sure on
>that till the day, Will play that one by ear. Our fearless leader
>Jack W. is getting grumpy with the combination of heat and old age,
>LOL Don't tell him I said that GRINN. So give him words of
>encouragement through the week.
>We still plan to have a splash of fuel for exhibit engines.
>   This year we are encouraging the display of  LANTERNS, from barn to
>rail or firemans to camping lanterns, road and construction warning
>flares.  Any kind of vintage light fueled by a combustible fluid. One
>would normally think Kerosene lanterns but there are other fuels for
>lanterns. Pressure lanterns like the Coleman are a prime example. And
>there are more types of vintage lights then lanterns. Yellow Dogs as
>a example that comes to mind.  Larry Swartz has lead the way with
>encouraging that at a couple other shows in the area and its been a
>big success. So even if you do not plan to light it bring it. Don't
>care to keep what you got bring it to sell. Got spare parts going to
>no good use bring them to sell.
>    There is no official organization of this aspect of the show we
>are just encouraging people to bring lanterns to add to their
>displays.  Last year one display had over 50 lanterns.
>
>Looking forward to seeing everyone again!.  As usual if you have a
>few engine related items to sell bring it along with your
>display.   If all you want to do is sell engines come too we have a
>area just for engine parts venders by donation.
>   Any questions call me at home 419.358.5206  or by cell 419.516.2996
>Check out the web site too and see if that will answer your
>questions. http://www.nwoantiquemachinery.com/
>
>Mark
>
>
>
>Mark Shulaw
>454 County Road 33
>Bluffton, OH. 45817
>USA
>
>Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
>Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
>VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com  



From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Thu Jul 28 15:16:08 2011
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:16:08 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
In-Reply-To: <5FC4CE656C74452DACDD269EBE98AA2C@ANSON2>
References: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMEZ00LQ=Wud1xnLYQ8R5EGQRr47MF2uw3NB9QbgTRxOQy+9Dg@mail.gmail.com>
	<5FC4CE656C74452DACDD269EBE98AA2C@ANSON2>
Message-ID: <4E31DFA8.4040406@optusnet.com.au>

Welcome to the list Margaret & Geoff, I hope the recent case can finally 
bring some closure to the whole sorry event.
The Anson is a fantastic museum and totally enjoyed my time there a few 
years ago with Geoff, well done

Kerry Morris
Lithgow NSW Oz


On 28/07/2011 7:58 PM, Anson Engine Museum wrote:
> thanks Peter, I have signed up for the list but cannot seem to figure a way
> to get into it and read what is posted.
>
> Any tips?
>
> thanks, Margaret
>



From don.h at wcoil.com  Thu Jul 28 19:16:11 2011
From: don.h at wcoil.com (don.h at wcoil.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 22:16:11 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <9945bc191817cef37e17dc4ca453e002.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7><18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus><002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7><4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com><A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER><20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com><313197BEE33B49DFB7DB42F9CDCFE1F0@DonPC>
	<9945bc191817cef37e17dc4ca453e002.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <94867D5038D2406A958D585119E2E01D@DonPC>

Hi Arnie  Mini park is just on the right when you coming in the entrance up 
front its next to the old Potties just right of the first building s
cu there   Don

-----Original Message----- 
From: Arnie Fero
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 3:43 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show

Don, that sounds like fun.  Where is the "mini park"?

See ya there,  Arnie

On Thu, July 28, 2011 1:32 pm, don.h at wcoil.com wrote:
> also Mark  tell everbody   Friday night we are going to have our own
> country
> music jam at the mini park starting at 730 PM    singing old 50 60 style
> country music    NO ELECTRIC INSTRUMENTS   please you will be asked not to
> plug them in This way we wont have any hard hearing old foggie like me
> cranking it up drowing the rest out.
> Ought to be fun I have a gang coming from our area that go to my jam
> coming
> there just to play .
> Please pass the word to our fellow engine guys and gals .Everbody gets to
> do
> 3 numbers if you sing tell jokes or play the spoons then we go to the next
> person around the room then start over will play till we run out of steam
> I
> hope to make this a big event for everbody on friday night after the corn
> roast Sorry I cant pay anybody or even get them in free come early and
> enjoy
> the show then top it off with good old music and maybe even a square dance
> or to We have a  man who has been calling for over 45 yrs and still
> playing
> every week he just celebrated his 82 birthday
> Thanks   Don


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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat Jul 30 12:16:10 2011
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:16:10 +0200
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Please identify this modern US made engine (motor)
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110730211437.01a3ecd8@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

   Hi All,
           Someone dumped this small modern USA made aircooled motor on my
   doorstep. Can anyone identify it for me please? (Dave, when answering
   "Yes" please give details :-))
   [1]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
           It's not a "Hit 'n Miss" but, if someone threw it at me and I
   took a swipe at it with a baseball bat and missed would that qualify as
   a "Hit 'n Miss" :-)
           Thanks in advance.

   Keep the revs up (or down)
   Jerry Evans
   Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
   Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
   <[2]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>

References

   1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
   2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat Jul 30 12:26:41 2011
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:26:41 +0200
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Please identify this modern US made engine (motor)/More
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110730212449.01a844d8@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

   I just noticed the casting mark on this pic:
   <[1]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/AC2.jpg>
   looks like the Briggs & Stratton logo to me - do they make anything
   this small ?
   Jerry
   Hi All,
           Someone dumped this small modern USA made aircooled motor on my
   doorstep. Can anyone identify it for me please? (Dave, when answering
   "Yes" please give details :-))
   [2]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
           It's not a "Hit 'n Miss" but, if someone threw it at me and I
   took a swipe at it with a baseball bat and missed would that qualify as
   a "Hit 'n Miss" :-)
           Thanks in advance.

   Keep the revs up (or down)
   Jerry Evans
   Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
   Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
   <[3]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>

References

   1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/AC2.jpg
   2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
   3. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm


From amkimmell at gmail.com  Sat Jul 30 12:37:39 2011
From: amkimmell at gmail.com (Tony Kimmell)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:37:39 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Please identify this modern US made engine (motor)
Message-ID: <p30r9vd6t0nrhnmctdquvqte.1312054568813@email.android.com>

Jerry,
Judging by the square inset in the end of the crankshaft, I'd guess that it's probably a weed trimmer motor.  Other than that, I got nothing  :-)

-Tony

Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za> wrote:

>   Hi All,
>           Someone dumped this small modern USA made aircooled motor on my
>   doorstep. Can anyone identify it for me please? (Dave, when answering
>   "Yes" please give details :-))
>   [1]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
>           It's not a "Hit 'n Miss" but, if someone threw it at me and I
>   took a swipe at it with a baseball bat and missed would that qualify as
>   a "Hit 'n Miss" :-)
>           Thanks in advance.
>
>   Keep the revs up (or down)
>   Jerry Evans
>   Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
>   Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
>   <[2]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>
>
>References
>
>   1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
>   2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm
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From jlb94 at juno.com  Sat Jul 30 12:46:19 2011
From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 19:46:19 GMT
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Please identify this modern US made engine
	(motor)/More
Message-ID: <20110730.154619.1038.2@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>

Hi Jerry,
That square hole on the front shaft would indicate it ran a cable - probably a weed whacker.


 
Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/       
(_0_)      So - - - Just how clean is a whistle ??

              

                                



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: SEL List <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Please identify this modern US made engine (motor)/More
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:26:41 +0200

  I just noticed the casting mark on this pic:
  <[1]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/AC2.jpg>
  looks like the Briggs & Stratton logo to me - do they make anything
  this small ?
  Jerry
  Hi All,
          Someone dumped this small modern USA made aircooled motor on my
  doorstep. Can anyone identify it for me please? (Dave, when answering
  "Yes" please give details :-))
  [2]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
          It's not a "Hit 'n Miss" but, if someone threw it at me and I
  took a swipe at it with a baseball bat and missed would that qualify as
  a "Hit 'n Miss" :-)
          Thanks in advance.

  Keep the revs up (or down)
  Jerry Evans
  Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
  Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
  <[3]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>

References

  1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/AC2.jpg
  2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
  3. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm
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From amkimmell at gmail.com  Sat Jul 30 12:49:10 2011
From: amkimmell at gmail.com (Tony Kimmell)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:49:10 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Please identify this modern US made engine
 (motor)/More
Message-ID: <6o2amux9ynwpw4ag52lromh8.1312055255466@email.android.com>

Now that you mention it, that oil fill plug is the same style that Briggs has used on lawnmower engines for the last 50 years.  I don't know much about newer Briggs engines, but it's definitely a possibility.

-Tony

Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za> wrote:

>   I just noticed the casting mark on this pic:
>   <[1]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/AC2.jpg>
>   looks like the Briggs & Stratton logo to me - do they make anything
>   this small ?
>   Jerry
>   Hi All,
>           Someone dumped this small modern USA made aircooled motor on my
>   doorstep. Can anyone identify it for me please? (Dave, when answering
>   "Yes" please give details :-))
>   [2]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
>           It's not a "Hit 'n Miss" but, if someone threw it at me and I
>   took a swipe at it with a baseball bat and missed would that qualify as
>   a "Hit 'n Miss" :-)
>           Thanks in advance.
>
>   Keep the revs up (or down)
>   Jerry Evans
>   Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
>   Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
>   <[3]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>
>
>References
>
>   1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/AC2.jpg
>   2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
>   3. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm
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From swilliams268 at frontier.com  Sat Jul 30 14:34:28 2011
From: swilliams268 at frontier.com (Steve W.)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:34:28 -0400
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Please identify this modern US made engine (motor)
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20110730211437.01a3ecd8@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110730211437.01a3ecd8@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <4E3478E4.9040107@frontier.com>

Jerry Evans wrote:
>    Hi All,
>            Someone dumped this small modern USA made aircooled motor on my
>    doorstep. Can anyone identify it for me please? (Dave, when answering
>    "Yes" please give details :-))
>    [1]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
>            It's not a "Hit 'n Miss" but, if someone threw it at me and I
>    took a swipe at it with a baseball bat and missed would that qualify as
>    a "Hit 'n Miss" :-)
>            Thanks in advance.
> 
>    Keep the revs up (or down)
>    Jerry Evans
>    Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
>    Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
>    <[2]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>
> 
> References
> 
>    1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
>    2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm
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> 

Briggs and Stratton Micro engine direct drive version.
4 stroke, air cooled, 1HP
Most of the direct drive ones were used on small pumps and such. The 
same engine in a clutch drive was used on string trimmers.


-- 
Steve W.



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sun Jul 31 10:19:30 2011
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:19:30 +0200
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 88, Issue 20
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1312128002.11871.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110731190901.020e16d8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>

   At 06:00 PM 31/07/2011, Steve W wrote:

     ------------------------------
     Message: 6
     Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:34:28 -0400
     From: "Steve W." <swilliams268 at frontier.com>
     Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Please identify this modern US made engine
             (motor)

     <Big Snip>

   Briggs and Stratton Micro engine direct drive version.
   4 stroke, air cooled, 1HP
   Most of the direct drive ones were used on small pumps and such. The
   same engine in a clutch drive was used on string trimmers.
   Steve W.
   Thanks Steve (and other replies),
           It was identified on the "other list" by Steve Gray as follows:
   "HI Jerry -
     That's indeed a Briggs weedwacker engine sold by Sears about 4 years
   ago. 40cc. Have one still in use. With a few screws removed, I can get
   a decent picture of it tomorrow if you'd like. Mine has the same
   muffler and carb on it. Can also supply the numbers if needed.
   - Steve"
           NOW, can anyone tell me the Model, etc. so that I can search
   the Briggs site for a manual - maybe I'll do something with it yet.
           Dave and Arnie, it's too light for a boat anchor but I'm sure
   it would annoy other exhibitors at shows as much as a Maytag :-)

   Keep the revs up (or down)
   Jerry Evans
   Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
   Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
   <[1]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>

References

   1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sun Jul 31 10:25:25 2011
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:25:25 +0200
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Please identify this modern US made engine/more
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110731192224.020da360@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>

   Hi All,
           After my last reply I got this from Steve Gray:
   "Mornin' Jerry -
     Check out [1]http://www.oldengineshed.com/wacker.html. Just some
   quick pics I took this A.M.
   Model # 021132, Type # 0599 E1, Code # 0603172A.
   The pic of the "Family #" tag probably just relates to this tree hugger
   state of 'Kalifornia'.
   -Steve".
   Thanks again to all for the replies.
   Jerry
   At 06:00 PM 31/07/2011, Steve W wrote:

     ------------------------------
     Message: 6
     Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:34:28 -0400
     From: "Steve W." <swilliams268 at frontier.com>
     Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Please identify this modern US made engine
             (motor)

     <Big Snip>

   Briggs and Stratton Micro engine direct drive version.
   4 stroke, air cooled, 1HP
   Most of the direct drive ones were used on small pumps and such. The
   same engine in a clutch drive was used on string trimmers.
   Steve W.
   Thanks Steve (and other replies),
           It was identified on the "other list" by Steve Gray as follows:
   "HI Jerry -
     That's indeed a Briggs weedwacker engine sold by Sears about 4 years
   ago. 40cc. Have one still in use. With a few screws removed, I can get
   a decent picture of it tomorrow if you'd like. Mine has the same
   muffler and carb on it. Can also supply the numbers if needed.
   - Steve"
           NOW, can anyone tell me the Model, etc. so that I can search
   the Briggs site for a manual - maybe I'll do something with it yet.
           Dave and Arnie, it's too light for a boat anchor but I'm sure
   it would annoy other exhibitors at shows as much as a Maytag :-)

   Keep the revs up (or down)
   Jerry Evans
   Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
   Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
   <[2]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>

References

   1. http://www.oldengineshed.com/wacker.html
   2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 10:48:19 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:48:19 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Models at Nuenen
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=V3RPu-KNRc7i+RW4+0sWMt+79HQ@mail.gmail.com>

Here is a selection of a few of the very nice models at the show:

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Nuenen2011Mod1.jpg

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Nuenen2011Mod2.jpg

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Nuenen2011Mod3.jpg

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Nuenen2011Mod4.jpg

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Nuenen2011Mod5.jpg

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Nuenen2011Mod6.jpg

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Nuenen2011Mod7.jpg

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Nuenen2011Mod9.jpg


Peter

-- 
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 12:37:36 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 20:37:36 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Models at Nuenen
In-Reply-To: <AJEFJOBJBOCDALIDIPGHGEMBCHAA.edurand@fairpoint.net>
References: <BANLkTi=V3RPu-KNRc7i+RW4+0sWMt+79HQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AJEFJOBJBOCDALIDIPGHGEMBCHAA.edurand@fairpoint.net>
Message-ID: <BANLkTikLFXbgkN2XT-RiSxUDM-ehS-BFtg@mail.gmail.com>

On 1 July 2011 20:33, Elden <edurand at fairpoint.net> wrote:
> Peter:
>
> Does the Diesel Patent engine run? ?Does it use air blast
> injection?
>
> Take care - Elden

Elden:

I did not see it run at the show, it seems to have everything needed
for it to run though.

I will ask Anton to see if he can find out more about it.

Peter
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk



From avanti_64 at juno.com  Fri Jul  1 16:35:11 2011
From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 23:35:11 GMT
Subject: [SEL] Models at Nuenen
Message-ID: <20110701.193511.22601.0@webmail21.vgs.untd.com>

Thanks, those are superb models!
Joe


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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 22:40:42 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 06:40:42 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Models at Nuenen
In-Reply-To: <AJEFJOBJBOCDALIDIPGHGEMBCHAA.edurand@fairpoint.net>
References: <BANLkTi=V3RPu-KNRc7i+RW4+0sWMt+79HQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AJEFJOBJBOCDALIDIPGHGEMBCHAA.edurand@fairpoint.net>
Message-ID: <BANLkTik9PfZEwhhckmeGnOW+3fqa9byVHA@mail.gmail.com>

On 1 July 2011 20:33, Elden <edurand at fairpoint.net> wrote:
> Peter:
>
> Does the Diesel Patent engine run? ?Does it use air blast
> injection?
>
> Take care - Elden

Had this reply back from Anton:

"The Diesel model engine is a running engine, I must ask Johan van der
Zanten, the modelmaker, if he use air-blast, I have no idea."

Peter
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From Germoamer at aol.com  Sat Jul  2 06:46:42 2011
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 09:46:42 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Models at Nuenen
Message-ID: <99114.5b6bba1f.3b407b42@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/1/11 1:57:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
listerdiesel at gmail.com writes:

<< Here is a selection of a few of the very nice models at the show: >>

Peter,

Sure are a lot of very talented people in the world.

Thanks,

Tom Schmutz</HTML>


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Jul  2 14:32:15 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 22:32:15 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Models at Nuenen
In-Reply-To: <AJEFJOBJBOCDALIDIPGHGEMBCHAA.edurand@fairpoint.net>
References: <BANLkTi=V3RPu-KNRc7i+RW4+0sWMt+79HQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AJEFJOBJBOCDALIDIPGHGEMBCHAA.edurand@fairpoint.net>
Message-ID: <BANLkTinC4JG-dDasPgGE_WKUApVmGLt0Pg@mail.gmail.com>

On 1 July 2011 20:33, Elden <edurand at fairpoint.net> wrote:
> Peter:
>
> Does the Diesel Patent engine run? ?Does it use air blast
> injection?
>
> Take care - Elden

Here is the reply from the engine maker:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi Peter,

Thanks for visiting my table at the Nuenen show.
I understood you have some questions about my Diesel replica.
It is a running engine indeed and it's a pity you did not actually see it
running because I demonstrated the engine several times during the day.
I have experimented with air blast injection but found it impossible to keep
the air pump in good condition.
Due leaking valves it exploded 2 times.  I use now solid injection. I
actuate the plunger with a solenoid. This gives a very fast injection. I use
the engine driven compressor to fill a small bottle with 10 Bar of air
pressure to start the engine.
This only works with a warm engine. When cold I have to crank.
A few years ago I wrote a small article fot the Model-Engineer magazine.
Perhaps it's of interest to you.

Kind regards,

Johan van Zanten.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Peter
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk



From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sun Jul  3 03:18:10 2011
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 20:18:10 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Fw: R-and-V-Engine-Information
Message-ID: <3746920042AA48B8ABC97C504DB079BD@PeterPC>

While I tighten the chain on Dave, Arnie, Rob and others, this guy below has 
asked me a question. Honest answers please guys.
Peter

I was going to use a Maytag 92 for mixing ice cream and didn't want all the 
smoke
either.  How do you think it would work to use a synthetic 2 cycle oil in
the 92.  I know in jet skis and the like they smoke less than regular 2
cycle. But the bottom line is I don't want to hurt my engine it is in good
shape. Any recommendations on type and ratio for what I am doing would be
helpful I will be turning a 2 gallon freezer.

Thanks so much
Bill Bramley
Cylinder, Ia







From rotigel at me.com  Sun Jul  3 04:31:32 2011
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 07:31:32 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Fw: R-and-V-Engine-Information
In-Reply-To: <3746920042AA48B8ABC97C504DB079BD@PeterPC>
References: <3746920042AA48B8ABC97C504DB079BD@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <CA1DAFE4-D286-4FA6-8457-38BD9E7F5130@me.com>

Now the MAYTAG 92 is an R-and V engine????? In any event, I've found that if you simply keep thinning the amt. of oil you use there will come s point where you know you have reached the "proper" mixture!
	Dave
PS, I sure hope that Bill has a VERY strong right leg if he likes ice cream!
PPS, Please tell Bill it's NOT an engine--it's a MOTOR!

On Jul 3, 2011, at 6:18 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:

> While I tighten the chain on Dave, Arnie, Rob and others, this guy below has 
> asked me a question. Honest answers please guys.
> Peter
> 
> I was going to use a Maytag 92 for mixing ice cream and didn't want all the 
> smoke
> either.  How do you think it would work to use a synthetic 2 cycle oil in
> the 92.  I know in jet skis and the like they smoke less than regular 2
> cycle. But the bottom line is I don't want to hurt my engine it is in good
> shape. Any recommendations on type and ratio for what I am doing would be
> helpful I will be turning a 2 gallon freezer.
> 
> Thanks so much
> Bill Bramley
> Cylinder, Ia


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sun Jul  3 07:39:04 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 10:39:04 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Fw: R-and-V-Engine-Information
In-Reply-To: <3746920042AA48B8ABC97C504DB079BD@PeterPC>
References: <3746920042AA48B8ABC97C504DB079BD@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <cb2cdc61923954baf893f8b9e1e3d647.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Awwww, that's just TOO easy...  8-))

On Sun, July 3, 2011 6:18 am, Peter Lowe wrote:
> While I tighten the chain on Dave, Arnie, Rob and others, this guy below has
> asked me a question. Honest answers please guys.
> Peter
>
> I was going to use a Maytag 92 for mixing ice cream and didn't want all the
> smoke
> either.  How do you think it would work to use a synthetic 2 cycle oil in
> the 92.  I know in jet skis and the like they smoke less than regular 2
> cycle. But the bottom line is I don't want to hurt my engine it is in good
> shape. Any recommendations on type and ratio for what I am doing would be
> helpful I will be turning a 2 gallon freezer.





From swebre at hotmail.com  Sun Jul  3 10:05:35 2011
From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 17:05:35 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Maytag Oil/fuel ratio
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1309708802.29374.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
References: <mailman.0.1309708802.29374.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <SNT125-W1826269E6A9FAE70C2FBA8DB5D0@phx.gbl>


Bill,  Based on my experience w/ older 2-cycles, I think a Maytag 92 should be able to safely run above 100:1 and perhaps 150+:1 ratios w/ modern high grade oils.    Keep in mind when talking about jet skis and modern outboards, you are talking about water cooled engines that need protection at WOT ranges of 6000 rpm+.  Thus the conservative ratios of 25-50:1 ratios when batch mixing.  These oil rich ratios are basically cheap insurance for sustained high speed, full load operation knowing that they will smoke like crazy at slow speeds.   But going slowly is not their mission.... And modern oil injected outboards are reported to be programed for 200-250:1 ratios @ idle speeds and richen up towards 50:1 at WOT above 4000 rpm.     Since your 92 is turning at roughly idle speeds compared to a modern 2 cycle and under much less stress, I'd pick a name brand (Yamaha, Honda, etc) oil for a 2-cycle air-cooled motorcycle and start at 100:1 ratio.  If still too smokey, I'd try 150:1 and so on.  A hand held infrared temp gauge shot towards the cylinders and main bearings will be very helpful to watch trends.   Just remember that leaning the mixture will raise the temp much more than small changes in the oil ratio so try to be consistant as you experiment.   Good luck! 
-Steve- 
  
I was going to use a Maytag 92 for mixing ice cream and didn't want all the 
smoke
either.  How do you think it would work to use a synthetic 2 cycle oil in
the 92.  I know in jet skis and the like they smoke less than regular 2
cycle. But the bottom line is I don't want to hurt my engine it is in good
shape. Any recommendations on type and ratio for what I am doing would be
helpful I will be turning a 2 gallon freezer.
 
Thanks so much
Bill Bramley
Cylinder, Ia
 
 		 	   		  

From plowe at exemail.com.au  Mon Jul  4 04:06:59 2011
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 21:06:59 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aust Post price increase
Message-ID: <C572B87F694947B0ABF56DC9DED9786E@PeterPC>

Hi guys in Oz

Australia Post has increased parcel postage as from today, Monday, so be aware if selling on Ebay etc.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia

From russell at ncable.com.au  Mon Jul  4 05:31:54 2011
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:31:54 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aust Post price increase
In-Reply-To: <C572B87F694947B0ABF56DC9DED9786E@PeterPC>
References: <C572B87F694947B0ABF56DC9DED9786E@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <4D73CE48-5253-422C-AF3E-19D3FA4B8CA9@ncable.com.au>

I just sent some parts I had cast to New Zealand. 3kg box cost over 50 bucks! Bull shit really but what do you do!


On 04/07/2011, at 9:06 PM, Peter Lowe wrote:

> Hi guys in Oz
> 
> Australia Post has increased parcel postage as from today, Monday, so be aware if selling on Ebay etc.
> 
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
> Australia
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 05:47:55 2011
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 22:47:55 +1000
Subject: [SEL] OT New Home
Message-ID: <CA3A969B.8665%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

We are finally in our new home which is in Earlwood (still in Sydney). We
made the big move last weekend and are now busily unpacking. I plan to bring
some engines home soon to cure the chronic engine withdrawal I have been
suffering.
It is nice to have a lot more room for the family and to have an all weather
workshop rather than being exposed to the weather like my old place.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 05:47:55 2011
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 22:47:55 +1000
Subject: [SEL] OT New Home
Message-ID: <CA3A969B.8665%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

We are finally in our new home which is in Earlwood (still in Sydney). We
made the big move last weekend and are now busily unpacking. I plan to bring
some engines home soon to cure the chronic engine withdrawal I have been
suffering.
It is nice to have a lot more room for the family and to have an all weather
workshop rather than being exposed to the weather like my old place.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 06:10:16 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:10:16 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/suffolk_gas_engine_deception_case_opened_1_954052

Peter
-- 
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Jul  6 07:04:02 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (fero_ah at city-net.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 10:04:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
In-Reply-To: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8f2087cfb099465aae1b76abafa4b40b.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

VERY interesting article Peter.  There is one prominent name (a colleague
of Mr. Green's), however, that is quite conspicuous by its absence.  Any
thoughts on that?

See ya,  Arnie

> http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/suffolk_gas_engine_deception_case_opened_1_954052
>
> Peter A Forbes




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 08:16:43 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 16:16:43 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
In-Reply-To: <8f2087cfb099465aae1b76abafa4b40b.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<8f2087cfb099465aae1b76abafa4b40b.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00JSu4_9u7L21rV_Pu-HxeBpVz0jhQUff7W0jwjiiePrqQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 6 July 2011 15:04,  <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
> VERY interesting article Peter. ?There is one prominent name (a colleague
> of Mr. Green's), however, that is quite conspicuous by its absence. ?Any
> thoughts on that?
>
> See ya, ?Arnie

John Delay?

No idea, I haven't heard his name mentioned in a while.

Peter
-- 
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk



From grookus2 at comcast.net  Wed Jul  6 13:31:44 2011
From: grookus2 at comcast.net (grookus2 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 20:31:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SEL] OT New Home
In-Reply-To: <CA3A969B.8665%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <383286338.273050.1309984304169.JavaMail.root@sz0072a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

congats on new home , may you have many great years. garyn and nancy rookus 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com> 
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>, "Oldengine" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 8:47:55 AM 
Subject: [SEL] OT New Home 

We are finally in our new home which is in Earlwood (still in Sydney). We 
made the big move last weekend and are now busily unpacking. I plan to bring 
some engines home soon to cure the chronic engine withdrawal I have been 
suffering. 
It is nice to have a lot more room for the family and to have an all weather 
workshop rather than being exposed to the weather like my old place. 
Patrick 

Patrick M Livingstone 
0418 692013 
Earlwood NSW 
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html 



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From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com  Wed Jul  6 19:14:41 2011
From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 22:14:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
Message-ID: <3e55b.6a5706ba.3b467091@aol.com>

Arnie
 
Please enlighten myself why one would post John Delays name on  this form? 
You can email me in private If you wish. 
 
Thank you
Kevin K 
 
_BIGFLYWHEEL at AOL.COM_ (mailto:BIGFLYWHEEL at AOL.COM) 
 
 
In a message dated 7/6/2011 11:27:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
listerdiesel at gmail.com writes:

On 6  July 2011 15:04,  <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
> VERY  interesting article Peter.  There is one prominent name (a  
colleague
> of Mr. Green's), however, that is quite conspicuous by its  absence.  Any
> thoughts on that?
>
> See ya,  Arnie

John Delay?

No idea, I haven't heard his name  mentioned in a while.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email:  listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk

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From frappi at wcoil.com  Sun Jul 10 13:35:17 2011
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:35:17 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Coolsprings 2011 and a Mill
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20110708105721.01a9d9a0@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110708105721.01a9d9a0@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
Message-ID: <20110710203513.E4B3B94D1@smtp.wcoil.com>


At this 2011 June Coolspring Event a mill was purchased.  It was left 
by the buyer at the spot for pick up later that day. The buyer never 
returned for it by Sunday morning when we left. If you were the 
purchaser of this mill who forgot to pick it up we have it in safe 
keeping for you. Unfortunately we do not know your name. Identify the 
mill you purchased to our satisfaction so that we know you were the 
buyer and if you attend the listed events we can bring it to Plain 
City Ohio this week. Findlay Ohio first week of August, Portland Show 
in late August or back to Coolspring in October. Or what ever can be 
worked out.
  If you forgot a mill at Coolspring Identify the mill to get it.
                                               Mark



Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com  



From oldengin1 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 10 17:35:54 2011
From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:35:54 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <CAJ0UjP=8Ag69LDSPjbCjwEk2Zn5o+B_weBxgj+8B-FPHCAHtsg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ0UjP=8Ag69LDSPjbCjwEk2Zn5o+B_weBxgj+8B-FPHCAHtsg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ0UjP=Dj2efpm99kQH5MAgyChMPwerydHoH8tfgusvEfKWx=w@mail.gmail.com>

I am back. Leroy


From sewell at ohio.edu  Sun Jul 10 17:58:53 2011
From: sewell at ohio.edu (Sewell, Steven)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:58:53 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <CAJ0UjP=Dj2efpm99kQH5MAgyChMPwerydHoH8tfgusvEfKWx=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ0UjP=8Ag69LDSPjbCjwEk2Zn5o+B_weBxgj+8B-FPHCAHtsg@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAJ0UjP=Dj2efpm99kQH5MAgyChMPwerydHoH8tfgusvEfKWx=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0F8674EFA3209748AC63E990A6F64CED616A03C4EF@EXMAIL2.ohio.edu>

I see reports about you were exaggerated! =;-)  Going to Portland??


Steve Sewell
Albany, Ohio USA
sewell at ohio.edu
sewell at atis.net
________________________________________
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Leroy Clark [oldengin1 at gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:35 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Test

I am back. Leroy
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From oldengin1 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 10 18:09:33 2011
From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:09:33 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <CAJ0UjPmjf5d8TDw8d_NOYZ2L6t9BgprQfW_sTUfOdajvPzoxdg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ0UjP=8Ag69LDSPjbCjwEk2Zn5o+B_weBxgj+8B-FPHCAHtsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ0UjP=Dj2efpm99kQH5MAgyChMPwerydHoH8tfgusvEfKWx=w@mail.gmail.com>
	<0F8674EFA3209748AC63E990A6F64CED616A03C4EF@EXMAIL2.ohio.edu>
	<CAJ0UjPmjf5d8TDw8d_NOYZ2L6t9BgprQfW_sTUfOdajvPzoxdg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ0UjPnVgxVoj=sVKN3QAjd1dnsAQFoZc78jWV_uPOyJJs7RXA@mail.gmail.com>

Going to try

On Jul 10, 2011 9:07 PM, "Sewell, Steven" <sewell at ohio.edu> wrote:

I see reports about you were exaggerated! =;-)  Going to Portland??


Steve Sewell
Albany, Ohio USA
sewell at ohio.edu
sewell at atis.net
________________________________________
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [
sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Leroy Clark [
oldengin1 at gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:35 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Test

I am back. Leroy
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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Sun Jul 10 22:03:28 2011
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 22:03:28 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Old DC motors as generators
Message-ID: <20110710.220339.950.753141@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>

Hi all.  Over the years there have been very few questions that the lists
haven't come up with an answer to.  So here is mine:  it seems that if
you belt up an old DC brush motor it will charge.  I have even taken an
auto windshield wiper motor and put it in an aluminum case so it looked
like an old motor and it charged 6V or 12V depending on whether I tapped
the slow or fast speed.  Now, yesterday I picked up an old 24V DC motor,
nice brass tag says:  Elwell-Parker Electric Co. Cleveland Ohio, Class G,
size 16, #3443, 24V.
I looked this company up on Google, says they started making motors in
1893, and they supplied motors for Baker electric cars until 1915.
I would like to power this with one of my old engines and light up a
giant light bulb, doesn't need to be bright, just glow.
Do you think this will do what I want?  What are your thoughts that this
might be more valuable as the engine for an early Baker electric car?
Thanks.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Jul 11 00:00:54 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:00:54 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Old DC motors as generators
In-Reply-To: <20110710.220339.950.753141@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20110710.220339.950.753141@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00LKy5_6krJonbBR7SxEDh=fceNCZrz=1qOuU06EpdzxnA@mail.gmail.com>

On 11 July 2011 06:03,  <rdhaskell at juno.com> wrote:
> Hi all. ?Over the years there have been very few questions that the lists
> haven't come up with an answer to. ?So here is mine: ?it seems that if
> you belt up an old DC brush motor it will charge. ?I have even taken an
> auto windshield wiper motor and put it in an aluminum case so it looked
> like an old motor and it charged 6V or 12V depending on whether I tapped
> the slow or fast speed. ?Now, yesterday I picked up an old 24V DC motor,
> nice brass tag says: ?Elwell-Parker Electric Co. Cleveland Ohio, Class G,
> size 16, #3443, 24V.
> I looked this company up on Google, says they started making motors in
> 1893, and they supplied motors for Baker electric cars until 1915.
> I would like to power this with one of my old engines and light up a
> giant light bulb, doesn't need to be bright, just glow.
> Do you think this will do what I want? ?What are your thoughts that this
> might be more valuable as the engine for an early Baker electric car?
> Thanks.
>
> Ron Haskell

Ron:

The machine will run as either a generator or a motor, but you will
need to sort out how the brushes and the field windings are connected.

I'd expect it to be shunt-wound, where the field windings are directly
across the brushes, but it could possibly be series wound, the field
is in series with one of the brushes, or compound-wound which is a
series-shunt combination.

Can't comment on the value ref the baker car, but it is always nice to
have something to load an engine.

Peter
-- 
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk



From doubled.66 at verizon.net  Mon Jul 11 02:29:25 2011
From: doubled.66 at verizon.net (doubled.66 at verizon.net)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 04:29:25 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <26982901.31197.1310376565319.JavaMail.root@vms170035>

   Welcome back Leroy


   On 07/10/11, Leroy Clark<oldengin1 at gmail.com> wrote:
   I am back. Leroy
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From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Mon Jul 11 04:46:19 2011
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:46:19 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Old DC motors as generators
In-Reply-To: <20110710.220339.950.753141@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20110710.220339.950.753141@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <001201cc3fc0$26bd6980$74383c80$@com>

DC motors and DC generators are in principle identical machines.  Truthfully
the biggest difference between a motor and generator is that a motor says
"motor" on the tag and a generator says "generator" on the tag!  There are
different types of motors, shunt, series, compound, which will affect the
voltage and current generated, but all will generate.

Rick


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
rdhaskell at juno.com
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 1:03 AM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: [SEL] Old DC motors as generators

Hi all.  Over the years there have been very few questions that the lists
haven't come up with an answer to.  So here is mine:  it seems that if
you belt up an old DC brush motor it will charge.  I have even taken an
auto windshield wiper motor and put it in an aluminum case so it looked
like an old motor and it charged 6V or 12V depending on whether I tapped
the slow or fast speed.  Now, yesterday I picked up an old 24V DC motor,
nice brass tag says:  Elwell-Parker Electric Co. Cleveland Ohio, Class G,
size 16, #3443, 24V.
I looked this company up on Google, says they started making motors in
1893, and they supplied motors for Baker electric cars until 1915.
I would like to power this with one of my old engines and light up a
giant light bulb, doesn't need to be bright, just glow.
Do you think this will do what I want?  What are your thoughts that this
might be more valuable as the engine for an early Baker electric car?
Thanks.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
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From walking_tractor at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 06:05:30 2011
From: walking_tractor at yahoo.com (David Myers)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 06:05:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Old DC motors as generators
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Elwell-Parker was still in business last I knew.? Makers of very large (up to 250,000#) fork lift trucks.? 
Yes, DC will work both ways but depending on construction will work better one way or the other.? Starter-generators used on small engines are one example of this (they aren't really good at either but they're better than nothing).
Incadescent light bulbs don't care if it is AC or DC, they just want voltage.? Have fun with this, should make for a good display.
I am a fan of having engines doing SOMETHING.? That's what they were designed for.? I think it makes them happier.
David

From: Rick Rowlands <rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com>
To: 'The SEL email discussion list' <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Old DC motors as generators

DC motors and DC generators are in principle identical machines.? Truthfully
the biggest difference between a motor and generator is that a motor says
"motor" on the tag and a generator says "generator" on the tag!? There are
different types of motors, shunt, series, compound, which will affect the
voltage and current generated, but all will generate.

Rick


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rdhaskell at juno.com
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 1:03 AM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: [SEL] Old DC motors as generators

Hi all.? Over the years there have been very few questions that the lists
haven't come up with an answer to.? So here is mine:? it seems that if
you belt up an old DC brush motor it will charge.? I have even taken an
auto windshield wiper motor and put it in an aluminum case so it looked
like an old motor and it charged 6V or 12V depending on whether I tapped
the slow or fast speed.? Now, yesterday I picked up an old 24V DC motor,
nice brass tag says:? Elwell-Parker Electric Co. Cleveland Ohio, Class G,
size 16, #3443, 24V.
I looked this company up on Google, says they started making motors in
1893, and they supplied motors for Baker electric cars until 1915.
I would like to power this with one of my old engines and light up a
giant light bulb, doesn't need to be bright, just glow.
Do you think this will do what I want?? What are your thoughts that this
might be more valuable as the engine for an early Baker electric car?
Thanks.

Ron Haskell
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Riverside, California USA
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1893, and they supplied motors for Baker electric cars until 1915.
I would like to power this with one of my old engines and light up a
giant light bulb, doesn't need to be bright, just glow.
Do you think this will do what I want?? What are your thoughts that this
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From jlb94 at juno.com  Mon Jul 11 07:12:40 2011
From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:12:40 GMT
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <20110711.101240.8431.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com>


Welcome back, Leroy

Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
 \/)"(\/       
(_0_)      So - - - Just how clean is a whistle ??

              

                                



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From: Leroy Clark <oldengin1 at gmail.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Test
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:35:54 -0400

I am back. Leroy
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From gasenginetom at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 11 07:47:42 2011
From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:47:42 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Engine get together at the Winland's this weekend  :)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ0UjP=Dj2efpm99kQH5MAgyChMPwerydHoH8tfgusvEfKWx=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ0UjP=8Ag69LDSPjbCjwEk2Zn5o+B_weBxgj+8B-FPHCAHtsg@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAJ0UjP=Dj2efpm99kQH5MAgyChMPwerydHoH8tfgusvEfKWx=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT131-w544031C6E6B3C818C0E10AC2450@phx.gbl>



 

I would like to personally invite you to the annual Winland engine get together on Saturday, July 16th at our house.  We will be having smoked pulled pork and baked beans cooking on the smoker and homemade ice cream.  It is a bring your own refreshment (Beer) party and last year we were up running engine till 4 AM.    This is the same weekend as last year with the Plain City show going on also, so I will be attending Plain City show Saturday morning till about 1 and heading to my house to get ready, so anytime in the afternoon or evening that anyone wants to come is fine.  Anyone that wants to bring an engine to show is encouraged to bring them to show.    Anyone wanting to camp again this year your more than welcome also.
 
If you think your going to make it drop me a line so we can get an idea of how many to expect. 
 
Here are some pictures from last years show
 
http://gasenginetom.com/Engine_Get_Together_2010.html
 
Location
 
7825 Snyder Rd.
Orient, OH  43146
 
my cell # if you need to reach me is 614-306-0908
 
Hope to see you all 
 
Tom & Heather Winland
 
http://gasenginetom.com/index.html 		 	   		  

From swebre at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 11 09:20:11 2011
From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:20:11 +0000
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 88, Issue 6
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1310400001.24011.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
References: <mailman.0.1310400001.24011.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <SNT125-W1608A11EC05CA05598781DDB450@phx.gbl>


Welcome home Leroy.  :) 

-Steve- 
  		 	   		  

From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk  Mon Jul 11 12:23:58 2011
From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (Craig Morrison)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:23:58 +0100
Subject: [SEL] The anual Redneck Games
Message-ID: <41626BE099154EEC8BB41B700202CD99@craig8b4f43368>

    I read in the paper today that it was the 16th annual Red Neck Games at the weekend in Georgia, and was wondering if any of you  guys or gals took part and if so in which event. This is purely out of curiosity of course.

Craig

From christison at coastalnet.com  Mon Jul 11 13:01:02 2011
From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:01:02 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique engine show
Message-ID: <4E1B567E.4090305@coastalnet.com>

   Passing this on.  Perhaps the Royster Bros. can tell us more about it.
   Ken
   -------- Original Message --------

   Subject: Antique engine show
      Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 06:37:42 -0700 (PDT)
      From: Coty Houser [1]<cotyhouser at yahoo.com>
        To: [2]christison at coastalnet.com

   Hey! Im Coty and I am from Vale, NC.  I am having a Farm and Machinery
   Show and Tractor pull at the Cleveland County Fairgrounds in a couple
   weeks.  It is in memory of my father who passed away earlier this
   year.  I am short on exhibitors and I was wondering if your club could
   help out in any way.  If anyone could bring something I will give them
   free tickets to the pull and I will donate money to your club.  The
   event is called the The Shelby Southern Thunder National Truck and
   Tractor pull.  It is on Facebook and the website is
   [3]www.southernthunder.us.  Please contact me if you can help in any
   way.  My cell number is 704-530-0163.  Thank you !

   Coty

References

   1. mailto:cotyhouser at yahoo.com
   2. mailto:christison at coastalnet.com
   3. http://www.southernthunder.us/


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Jul 11 13:29:40 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:29:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <CAJ0UjP=Dj2efpm99kQH5MAgyChMPwerydHoH8tfgusvEfKWx=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ0UjP=8Ag69LDSPjbCjwEk2Zn5o+B_weBxgj+8B-FPHCAHtsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ0UjP=Dj2efpm99kQH5MAgyChMPwerydHoH8tfgusvEfKWx=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bf21e35bd46887ae75ee1f798875f7b7.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

EXCELLENT!!  Just in time for Findley!!

See ya,  Arnie

Leroy Clark wrote:
> I am back. Leroy




From curt at rustyiron.com  Mon Jul 11 14:18:53 2011
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:18:53 -0600
Subject: [SEL] The anual Redneck Games
In-Reply-To: <41626BE099154EEC8BB41B700202CD99@craig8b4f43368>
References: <41626BE099154EEC8BB41B700202CD99@craig8b4f43368>
Message-ID: <9508d69b80f7354fbb703e45686a9b7a.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com>

Craig,
I'm sad to say that the Roysters are no longer allowed to represent the
SEL at the annual Redneck Games in Georgia. Their behavior was SO
deplorable there last year, they have been banned forever. It really is
quite embarrassing.
As always, it's a pleasure defending Royster honour. :-)
Curt Holland



>     I read in the paper today that it was the 16th annual Red Neck Games
> at the weekend in Georgia, and was wondering if any of you  guys or
> gals took part and if so in which event. This is purely out of
> curiosity of course.
>
> Craig
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Jul 11 14:45:37 2011
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (mr at carolina.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:45:37 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique engine show
In-Reply-To: <4E1B567E.4090305@coastalnet.com>
Message-ID: <20110711214537.H3UJU.85820.root@hrndva-web06-z01>

I have not heard of this before but will certainly check it out as it is only 10 minutes from the house!

Mike



---- Ken Christison <christison at coastalnet.com> wrote: 



From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com  Mon Jul 11 16:40:30 2011
From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:40:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique engine show
Message-ID: <8bfca.10c4a1.3b4ce3ee@aol.com>

Looks like the Royster boys will fit right in at these  games.
 
_http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3687065/Redneck-Games-are-a-real-
flop.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News_ 
(http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3687065/Redneck-Games-are-a-real-flop.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News) 
 
Check it out. 
 
KK
 
 
In a message dated 7/11/2011 5:56:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mr at carolina.rr.com writes:

I have  not heard of this before but will certainly check it out as it is 
only 10  minutes from the house!

Mike



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From eric at facspro.com  Mon Jul 11 16:51:39 2011
From: eric at facspro.com (Eric Walter)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:51:39 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Witte Dieselectric
Message-ID: <F3D3C2D0687D403DBFABCE1B6E127374@Office>

I am looking for a starting crank for a Witte Dieselectric MD 12Hp engine. Also looking for information on how to date one of these engines s/n on mine is D17013.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Eric Walter


From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 11 19:42:35 2011
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:42:35 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique engine show
In-Reply-To: <8bfca.10c4a1.3b4ce3ee@aol.com>
References: <8bfca.10c4a1.3b4ce3ee@aol.com>
Message-ID: <col112-w18959856B0241E0C4F338395440@phx.gbl>


Yep, thats my brother in the first picture, bless his heart!
 

 

> From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com
> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:40:30 -0400
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Fwd: Antique engine show
> 
> Looks like the Royster boys will fit right in at these games.
> 
> _http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3687065/Redneck-Games-are-a-real-
> flop.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News_ 
> (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3687065/Redneck-Games-are-a-real-flop.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News) 
> 
> Check it out. 
> 
> KK
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/11/2011 5:56:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> mr at carolina.rr.com writes:
> 
> I have not heard of this before but will certainly check it out as it is 
> only 10 minutes from the house!
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> ---- Ken Christison <christison at coastalnet.com> wrote: 
> 
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From gasenginetom at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 12 07:36:38 2011
From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:36:38 -0400
Subject: [SEL] screen cooled Mogul
In-Reply-To: <col112-w18959856B0241E0C4F338395440@phx.gbl>
References: <8bfca.10c4a1.3b4ce3ee@aol.com>,
	<col112-w18959856B0241E0C4F338395440@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <SNT131-w63EA05F6AF587E45987A8AC2440@phx.gbl>


Check out my newest addition to the engine barn  :)
 
6 HP Mogul, screen cooled, all original
 
http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Mogul_screen_cooled.html 		 	   		  

From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue Jul 12 07:58:57 2011
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:58:57 EDT
Subject: [SEL] screen cooled Mogul
Message-ID: <1b2fe.5ad337e7.3b4dbb31@aol.com>



 
In a message dated 7/12/2011 10:50:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
gasenginetom at hotmail.com writes:


Check out my newest addition to the engine barn  :)

6 HP  Mogul, screen cooled, all original
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------
 
A great looking engine!

Tom  Schmutz
Concord, Va.  
germoamer at aol.com




From George_Best at adp.com  Tue Jul 12 08:15:37 2011
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George (DS))
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:15:37 -0500
Subject: [SEL] screen cooled Mogul
In-Reply-To: <1b2fe.5ad337e7.3b4dbb31@aol.com>
References: <1b2fe.5ad337e7.3b4dbb31@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FD84543EE@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Great find Tom!

You guys in the eastern states certainly are in the right area for finding nice engines.
We have a few in the western states, but certainly not in the quantity that they are found in the eastern part of the country.

Enjoyed seeing your collection and sorry I can't be at your open house that is coming up.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Germoamer at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:59 AM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: Re: [SEL] screen cooled Mogul



 
In a message dated 7/12/2011 10:50:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
gasenginetom at hotmail.com writes:


Check out my newest addition to the engine barn  :)

6 HP  Mogul, screen cooled, all original
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------
 
A great looking engine!

Tom  Schmutz
Concord, Va.  
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Jul 12 09:23:34 2011
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:23:34 +0200
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 88, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1310486401.10850.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110712181854.01fa9e10@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>

   At 06:00 PM 12/07/2011, you wrote:

     Message: 8
     Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:51:39 -0500
     From: "Eric Walter" <eric at facspro.com>
     Subject: [SEL] Witte Dieselectric
     I am looking for a starting crank for a Witte Dieselectric MD 12Hp
     engine. Also looking for information on how to date one of these
     engines s/n on mine is D17013.
     Any help would be appreciated.
     Thanks
     Eric Walter

   Hi Eric,
           I tried to date my Witte CD without luck. David Johnson
   <wittemania at cox.net> (on SMOKSTAK) seems to be the Fundi and may be
   able to help you.

   Keep the revs up (or down)
   Jerry Evans
   Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
   Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
   <[1]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>

References

   1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm


From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Jul 12 09:55:13 2011
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:55:13 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Spark Plugs are becoming Obsolete
In-Reply-To: <SNT131-w63EA05F6AF587E45987A8AC2440@phx.gbl>
References: <8bfca.10c4a1.3b4ce3ee@aol.com>
	<col112-w18959856B0241E0C4F338395440@phx.gbl>
	<SNT131-w63EA05F6AF587E45987A8AC2440@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20110712165514.861F994F9@smtp.wcoil.com>

Read an interesting article today in one of the 
newsletters I get. This idea has been around for 
a while but they are finally getting it near 
practical for automotive use. My bet is this idea 
originated here and we as usual did not pursue 
the research as it was deemed practicality was 
too distant in the future to be of immediate 
value to stock holders.  But this should interest 
this group. See the article below with credits.     Mark




Laser Sparks Revolution in Internal Combustion Engines

New laser system may lead to reduced auto emissions, enhanced fuel efficiency

WASHINGTON, April 20?For more than 150 years, 
spark plugs have powered internal combustion 
engines. Automakers are now one step closer to 
being able to replace this long-standing 
technology with laser igniters, which will enable 
cleaner, more efficient, and more economical vehicles.

In the past, lasers strong enough to ignite an 
engine?s air-fuel mixtures were too large to fit 
under an automobile's hood. At this year's 
Conference on Lasers and Electro Optics 
(<http://www.cleoconference.org/>CLEO: 2011), to 
be held in Baltimore May 1 - 6, researchers from 
Japan will describe the first multibeam laser 
system small enough to screw into an engine's cylinder head.
Laser Sparks



A standard spark plug (left) and the micro-laser 
with three-beam output for multi-point ignition 
(right). Photo courtesy Takunori Taira, National 
Institutes of Natural Sciences, Japan.

Equally significant, the new laser system is made 
from ceramics, and could be produced 
inexpensively in large volumes, according to one 
of the presentation's authors, Takunori Taira of 
Japan's National Institutes of Natural Sciences.

According to Taira, conventional spark plugs pose 
a barrier to improving fuel economy and reducing 
emissions of nitrogen oxides (NOx), a key component of smog.

Spark plugs work by sending small, high-voltage 
electrical sparks across a gap between two metal 
electrodes. The spark ignites the air-fuel 
mixture in the engine's cylinder?producing a 
controlled explosion that forces the piston down 
to the bottom of the cylinder, generating the 
horsepower needed to move the vehicle.

Engines make NOx as a byproduct of combustion. If 
engines ran leaner ? burnt more air and less fuel 
? they would produce significantly smaller NOx emissions.

Spark plugs can ignite leaner fuel mixtures, but 
only by increasing spark energy. Unfortunately, 
these high voltages erode spark plug electrodes 
so fast, the solution is not economical. By 
contrast, lasers, which ignite the air-fuel 
mixture with concentrated optical energy, have no 
electrodes and are not affected.

Lasers also improve efficiency. Conventional 
spark plugs sit on top of the cylinder and only 
ignite the air-fuel mixture close to them. The 
relatively cold metal of nearby electrodes and 
cylinder walls absorbs heat from the explosion, 
quenching the flame front just as it starts to expand.

Lasers, Taira explains, can focus their beams 
directly into the center of the mixture. Without 
quenching, the flame front expands more 
symmetrically and up to three times faster than those produced by spark plugs.

Equally important, he says, lasers inject their 
energy within nanoseconds, compared with 
milliseconds for spark plugs. ?Timing ? quick 
combustion ? is very important. The more precise 
the timing, the more efficient the combustion and 
the better the fuel economy,? he says.

Lasers promise less pollution and greater fuel 
efficiency, but making small, powerful lasers 
has, until now, proven hard. To ignite 
combustion, a laser must focus light to 
approximately 100 gigawatts per square centimeter 
with short pulses of more than 10 millijoules each.

?In the past, lasers that could meet those 
requirements were limited to basic research 
because they were big, inefficient, and 
unstable,? Taira says. Nor could they be located 
away from the engine, because their powerful 
beams would destroy any optical fibers that delivered light to the cylinders.

Taira?s research team overcame this problem by 
making composite lasers from ceramic powders. The 
team heats the powders to fuse them into 
optically transparent solids and embeds metal 
ions in them to tune their properties.

Ceramics are easier to tune optically than 
conventional crystals. They are also much 
stronger, more durable, and thermally conductive, 
so they can dissipate the heat from an engine without breaking down.

Taira?s team built its laser from two 
yttrium-aluminum-gallium (YAG) segments, one 
doped with neodymium, the other with chromium. 
They bonded the two sections together to form a 
powerful laser only 9 millimeters in diameter and 
11 millimeters long (a bit less than half an inch).

The composite generates two laser beams that can 
ignite fuel in two separate locations at the same 
time. This would produce a flame wall that grows 
faster and more uniformly than one lit by a single laser.

The laser is not strong enough to light the 
leanest fuel mixtures with a single pulse. By 
using several 800-picosecond-long pulses, 
however, they can inject enough energy to ignite the mixture completely.

A commercial automotive engine will require 60 Hz 
(or pulse trains per second), Taira says. He has 
already tested the new dual-beam laser at 100 Hz. 
The team is also at work on a three-beam laser 
that will enable even faster and more uniform combustion.

The laser-ignition system, although highly 
promising, is not yet being installed into actual 
automobiles made in a factory. Taira?s team is, 
however, working with a large spark-plug company 
and with DENSO Corporation, a member of the Toyota Group.

This work is supported by the Japan Science and Technical Agency (JST).

CLEO: 2011 presentation 
<http://cleo2011.abstractcentral.com/planner?NEXT_PAGE=ITINERARY_ABS_DET_POP&SESSION_ABSTRACT_ID=797739&ABSTRACT_ID=1042779&SESSION_ID=83094&PROGRAM_ID=2916>CMP1, 
?Composite All-Ceramics, Passively Q-switched 
Nd:YAG/Cr4+:YAG Monolithic Micro-Laser with 
Two-Beam Output for Multi-Point Ignition,? by 
Nicolaie Pavel of Romania?s National Institute 
for Laser, Plasma and Radiation Physics; Takunore 
Taira and Masaki Tsunekane of Japan?s Institute 
for Molecular Science; and Kenji Kanehara of 
Nippon Soken, Inc., Japan, is at 1:30 p.m. 
Monday, May 2 in the Baltimore Convention Center.

About CLEO
With a distinguished history as the industry's 
leading event on laser science, the Conference on 
Lasers and Electro-Optics (CLEO) and the Quantum 
Electronics Laser Science Conference (QELS) is 
where laser technology was first introduced. 
CLEO: 2011 will unite the field of lasers and 
electro-optics by bringing together all aspects 
of laser technology, with content stemming from 
basic research to industry application. Sponsored 
by the American Physical Society's (APS) Laser 
Science Division, the Institute of Electronic 
Engineers (IEEE) Photonics Society and the 
Optical Society (OSA), CLEO: 2011 provides the 
full range of critical developments in the field, 
showcasing the most significant milestones from 
laboratory to marketplace. With an unparalleled 
breadth and depth of coverage, CLEO: 2011 
connects all of the critical vertical markets in 
lasers and electro-optics. For more information, 
visit the conference's website at 
<http://www.cleoconference.org>www.cleoconference.org.

###







From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Jul 12 10:03:07 2011
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:03:07 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Emailing: LaserSparksRevolution
Message-ID: <20110712170307.249BF9519@smtp.wcoil.com>



Heres the pic of the device from the article.



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Tue Jul 12 11:29:14 2011
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:29:14 -0700
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 88, Issue 7
Message-ID: <20110712.112953.950.760730@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>

Doesn't Wendel's notebook say Witte Diesels from 14,677-18,831 were made
in 1947?  That's how I read it.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:23:34 +0200 Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za>
writes:
>    At 06:00 PM 12/07/2011, you wrote:
> 
>      Message: 8
>      Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:51:39 -0500
>      From: "Eric Walter" <eric at facspro.com>
>      Subject: [SEL] Witte Dieselectric
>      I am looking for a starting crank for a Witte Dieselectric MD 
> 12Hp
>      engine. Also looking for information on how to date one of 
> these
>      engines s/n on mine is D17013.
>      Any help would be appreciated.
>      Thanks
>      Eric Walter
> 
>    Hi Eric,
>            I tried to date my Witte CD without luck. David Johnson
>    <wittemania at cox.net> (on SMOKSTAK) seems to be the Fundi and may 
> be
>    able to help you.
> 
>    Keep the revs up (or down)
>    Jerry Evans
>    Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
>    Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
>    <[1]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>
____________________________________________________________
57 Year Old Mom Looks 27!
Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors!
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e1c92a395998347e1ast02vuc


From mr at carolina.rr.com  Tue Jul 12 13:47:07 2011
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (mr at carolina.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:47:07 -0400
Subject: [SEL] screen cooled Mogul
In-Reply-To: <SNT131-w63EA05F6AF587E45987A8AC2440@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20110712204708.1VAX3.25846.root@cdptpa-web11-z02>

GORGEOUS!!!!!!!


---- Tom Winland <gasenginetom at hotmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> Check out my newest addition to the engine barn  :)
>  
> 6 HP Mogul, screen cooled, all original
>  
> http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Mogul_screen_cooled.html 		 	   		  
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From eric at facspro.com  Tue Jul 12 16:21:41 2011
From: eric at facspro.com (Eric Walter)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:21:41 -0500
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 88, Issue 7
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110712181854.01fa9e10@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
Message-ID: <0B1B0CF35F664083A99E74D2C286C674@Office>

Jerry,
 Thanks for the info. I've already got a manual on CD for my MD from David 
and he is looking for a crank for me also. I wasn't sure if he was on this 
list so I thought I would shoot it out here for others to ponder. Can't have 
enough people looking for stuff these days.

Thanks
Eric




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 88, Issue 7


>   At 06:00 PM 12/07/2011, you wrote:
>
>     Message: 8
>     Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:51:39 -0500
>     From: "Eric Walter" <eric at facspro.com>
>     Subject: [SEL] Witte Dieselectric
>     I am looking for a starting crank for a Witte Dieselectric MD 12Hp
>     engine. Also looking for information on how to date one of these
>     engines s/n on mine is D17013.
>     Any help would be appreciated.
>     Thanks
>     Eric Walter
>
>   Hi Eric,
>           I tried to date my Witte CD without luck. David Johnson
>   <wittemania at cox.net> (on SMOKSTAK) seems to be the Fundi and may be
>   able to help you.
>
>   Keep the revs up (or down)
>   Jerry Evans
>   Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
>   Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
>   <[1]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>
>
> References
>
>   1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From eric at facspro.com  Tue Jul 12 16:22:57 2011
From: eric at facspro.com (Eric Walter)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:22:57 -0500
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 88, Issue 7
References: <20110712.112953.950.760730@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <FD8D01E4181645DFB8BEB5D5FF263BCA@Office>

Ron,
Being a newbie in the Stationary engine department I'm not familiar with the 
book you are referring to.

Eric


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <rdhaskell at juno.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 88, Issue 7


> Doesn't Wendel's notebook say Witte Diesels from 14,677-18,831 were made
> in 1947?  That's how I read it.
>
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California USA
> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
>
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:23:34 +0200 Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za>
> writes:
>>    At 06:00 PM 12/07/2011, you wrote:
>>
>>      Message: 8
>>      Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:51:39 -0500
>>      From: "Eric Walter" <eric at facspro.com>
>>      Subject: [SEL] Witte Dieselectric
>>      I am looking for a starting crank for a Witte Dieselectric MD
>> 12Hp
>>      engine. Also looking for information on how to date one of
>> these
>>      engines s/n on mine is D17013.
>>      Any help would be appreciated.
>>      Thanks
>>      Eric Walter
>>
>>    Hi Eric,
>>            I tried to date my Witte CD without luck. David Johnson
>>    <wittemania at cox.net> (on SMOKSTAK) seems to be the Fundi and may
>> be
>>    able to help you.
>>
>>    Keep the revs up (or down)
>>    Jerry Evans
>>    Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
>>    Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
>>    <[1]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>
> ____________________________________________________________
> 57 Year Old Mom Looks 27!
> Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors!
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e1c92a395998347e1ast02vuc
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue Jul 12 16:43:27 2011
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:43:27 EDT
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 88, Issue 7
Message-ID: <286ab.4461f4b7.3b4e361f@aol.com>



 
In a message dated 7/12/2011 7:36:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
eric at facspro.com writes:

Ron,
Being a newbie in the Stationary engine department I'm not  familiar with 
the 
book you are referring to.

Eric

Check here  for information on Wendel's notebook.  Handy booklet to  have.


_http://www.farmcollector.com/shopping/detail.aspx?itemnumber=3573_ 
(http://www.farmcollector.com/shopping/detail.aspx?itemnumber=3573) 

Tom  Schmutz
Concord, Va.  
germoamer at aol.com




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Jul 12 18:52:43 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:52:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Dolly's Nuenen Pics are up
Message-ID: <bd285a29a75568ea15d88cdcfd854c23.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

PS can you post my Nuenen link to ATIS?  Nothing ever appears that I post,
but we still get all the mail!
http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen11/nuenen1.htm

Thanks,
Dolly
x






From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 20:59:31 2011
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:59:31 +1000
Subject: [SEL] screen cooled Mogul
In-Reply-To: <SNT131-w63EA05F6AF587E45987A8AC2440@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CA435543.8712%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

Nice engine. It certainly runs sweet.
Patrick


On 13/7/11 12:36 AM, "Tom Winland" <gasenginetom at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Check out my newest addition to the engine barn  :)
>  
> 6 HP Mogul, screen cooled, all original
>  
> http://gasenginetom.com/6_HP_Mogul_screen_cooled.html          
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From obise at moscow.com  Tue Jul 12 21:55:58 2011
From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:55:58 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Dolly's Nuenen Pics are up
In-Reply-To: <bd285a29a75568ea15d88cdcfd854c23.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <bd285a29a75568ea15d88cdcfd854c23.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <4E1D255E.3070703@moscow.com>

Dolly, as usual you did an A++++ job.  Thank you for posting.  The pix 
are beautiful!
     Best regards,
     Orrin

Orrin Iseminger
Colton, Washington, USA
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm
So many projects.  So little time.


On 7/12/2011 6:52 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:
> PS can you post my Nuenen link to ATIS?  Nothing ever appears that I post,
> but we still get all the mail!
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen11/nuenen1.htm
>
> Thanks,
> Dolly
> x
>


From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Thu Jul 14 18:06:44 2011
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:06:44 +1000
Subject: [SEL] It's just like starting over
Message-ID: <CA45CFC4.87A1%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

I have finally made a start on the new home for my engines. Last weekend I
pulled two engines out of storage and brought them home. It is just like
starting collecting again and bringing things home.
The first two engines home were my F-M No.1 Eclipse (my first and favourite
engine) and one of the 1hp R&Vs. Hopefully I will get them unloaded from the
trailer this weekend and even give them a run!
It is nice to be able to work on engines in all weather conditions and being
able to leave them sitting on the trailer in the garage.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sat Jul 16 03:26:24 2011
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:26:24 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Progress in the new workshop
Message-ID: <CA47A470.880C%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

I finally have a couple of engines in the new workshop and I fired both up
today. It has been many months since either was running so it was nice to
finally have something running at home.
The first engine to be fired up was (appropriately) my Fairbanks-Morse No.1
Eclipse. It was my first engine and I have owned it for over 30 years. There
is a clip of it running at:
http://youtu.be/tDoDTCiGA1Q
Second engine to be fired up was my flywheel governed Root & VanDervoort
'Triumph Line' 1hp engine. It was a bit reluctant to fire up on stale fuel
but some fresh stuff soon had it running. The next step is to bring one of
the bigger engines home...
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From cgandree at mchsi.com  Sat Jul 16 05:29:11 2011
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 07:29:11 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] Progress in the new workshop
In-Reply-To: <CA47A470.880C%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1782174232.5400271310819351534.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

Real nice Patrick.  Bet you are really going to enjoy the home and especially the shop being close by now.  Get a chance send some pics of your house and shop.
thanks for sharing.
Curt



----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>, "Oldengine" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 5:26:24 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [SEL] Progress in the new workshop

I finally have a couple of engines in the new workshop and I fired both up
today. It has been many months since either was running so it was nice to
finally have something running at home.
The first engine to be fired up was (appropriately) my Fairbanks-Morse No.1
Eclipse. It was my first engine and I have owned it for over 30 years. There
is a clip of it running at:
http://youtu.be/tDoDTCiGA1Q
Second engine to be fired up was my flywheel governed Root & VanDervoort
'Triumph Line' 1hp engine. It was a bit reluctant to fire up on stale fuel
but some fresh stuff soon had it running. The next step is to bring one of
the bigger engines home...
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
0418 692013
Earlwood NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html



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From oldengin1 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 16 12:03:31 2011
From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:03:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SandY 7-17
In-Reply-To: <CAJ0UjPmjCB0tSrNWwo1GBMZBFn5mVQGmkGVv_4yH4HbDdhr55w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ0UjPmjCB0tSrNWwo1GBMZBFn5mVQGmkGVv_4yH4HbDdhr55w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ0UjPkYfpjwm=Zd--Ak3fkBddrW+RFvT22AXs6saXSZ=5h9GA@mail.gmail.com>

Tom , when and where is your engine gathering  at tomorrow. Leroy

On Jul 16, 2011 8:37 AM, <cgandree at mchsi.com> wrote:

Real nice Patrick.  Bet you are really going to enjoy the home and
especially the shop being close by now.  Get a chance send some pics of your
house and shop.
thanks for sharing.
Curt




----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: "ATI...


From dombros2 at clearmail.com.au  Sat Jul 16 16:27:42 2011
From: dombros2 at clearmail.com.au (Domeney Brothers)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 09:27:42 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2011, some thanks.
Message-ID: <DC2C9110E9944B2EB8187DF0A71FC359@shed>

G'day all
I'm just back home, way down in the (freezing cold) state of Tasmania, Australia after an extended trip to Europe, the engine highlight of which was the Nuenen Rally. 

My compliments and congratulations to Anton and his colleagues who put this Rally together every year. I was told before going that it was a Rally every engineman should see in his lifetime, and I can now endorse that. Thank you Anton for the Rally, and for your help, courtesy, kindness and generosity during our stay.

And also Peter Forbes, whom I have emailed for help several times in the past. It was really good to put a face to the name, and thank you too for your kindness to me on the Saturday. (Peter gave me a bottle of water when I was quite dehydrated and the hospitality tent was not yet on site.) Your generosity was quite timely and very much appreciated. 

I have heard from Anton that Coolspring was very good, he was urging me to go to it too, after Nuenen. It was impossible this year with plans locked in place for various visits in Europe. But look out, its on my shortlist for the future.

Regards to all
Teddy

From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Jul 17 03:15:43 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:15:43 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2011, some thanks.
In-Reply-To: <DC2C9110E9944B2EB8187DF0A71FC359@shed>
References: <DC2C9110E9944B2EB8187DF0A71FC359@shed>
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00Jdb3dvKbJr351C2QDRHxiq8TpA8WXboXqpDHFr3K9qgw@mail.gmail.com>

On 17 July 2011 00:27, Domeney Brothers <dombros2 at clearmail.com.au> wrote:
> G'day all
> I'm just back home, way down in the (freezing cold) state of Tasmania, Australia after an extended trip to Europe, the engine highlight of which was the Nuenen Rally.
>

Good to see you, Ted, glad to hear that the trip worked out OK, look
forward to seeing you again. I believe that there is going to be a big
gathering of slide-valve engines at the 25th show, that's 2013, put
that down in your book.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From gasenginetom at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 17 06:52:15 2011
From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (gasenginetom at hotmail.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 09:52:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] SandY 7-17
In-Reply-To: <CAJ0UjPkYfpjwm=Zd--Ak3fkBddrW+RFvT22AXs6saXSZ=5h9GA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ0UjPmjCB0tSrNWwo1GBMZBFn5mVQGmkGVv_4yH4HbDdhr55w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ0UjPkYfpjwm=Zd--Ak3fkBddrW+RFvT22AXs6saXSZ=5h9GA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP17714EC4EE54B076BC78548C24B0@phx.gbl>

Leroy

 My engine gathering was on the 16th

Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless

-----Original message-----
From: Leroy Clark <oldengin1 at gmail.com>
To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sat, Jul 16, 2011 19:03:31 GMT+00:00
Subject: [SEL] SandY 7-17

Tom , when and where is your engine gathering  at tomorrow. Leroy

On Jul 16, 2011 8:37 AM, <cgandree at mchsi.com> wrote:

Real nice Patrick.  Bet you are really going to enjoy the home and
especially the shop being close by now.  Get a chance send some pics of your
house and shop.
thanks for sharing.
Curt




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To: "ATI...
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From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Tue Jul 19 07:26:35 2011
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:26:35 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>

Hi folks

 

Just seeing if I can get messages to appear on the list now I've done a few
tweaks to the email system.

 

Dolly

 

 



From gasenginetom at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 19 07:40:49 2011
From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:40:49 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <SNT131-W615290FF2DB3200D989180C24D0@phx.gbl>


came thru here  :)
 

> From: fbi at insulate.co.uk
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:26:35 +0100
> Subject: [SEL] Test
> 
> Hi folks
> 
> 
> 
> Just seeing if I can get messages to appear on the list now I've done a few
> tweaks to the email system.
> 
> 
> 
> Dolly
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From Vivas1993 at aol.com  Tue Jul 19 07:46:42 2011
From: Vivas1993 at aol.com (Vivas1993 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:46:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <7578e.414995d3.3b56f2d2@aol.com>

Came through just fine here in VA.
Dwight
 
 
In a message dated 7/19/2011 10:37:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
fbi at insulate.co.uk writes:

Hi  folks



Just seeing if I can get messages to appear on the list  now I've done a few
tweaks to the email  system.



Dolly





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From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Tue Jul 19 07:52:12 2011
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:52:12 +0100
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport
Message-ID: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>

Excellent!  Now I can repost to the list, FINALLY, after about a year of
only being able to read messages or post via Arnie, I'm here with a request
for help.

Jim and I will be coming to Portland this year and we've already purchased
an engine.  Is there any chance of the Olde Iron Express getting this baby
from Ann Arbor in Michigan down to Portland?  It weighs approx 2,400lbs,
7'5" long and 3'8" wide on a pallet.

If not, the seller can get it to Coolspring in October for us.

Thanks for any help!

Dolly

 

--

Jim French

fbi at insulate.co.uk

FBI Sig

http://www.insulate.co.uk

http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm

 

 


From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Jul 19 07:55:36 2011
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:55:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <20110719145541.473B693B6@smtp.wcoil.com>

Nope didn't get through, try again. LOL,     Mark


At 10:26 AM 7/19/2011, you wrote:
>Hi folks
>
>
>
>Just seeing if I can get messages to appear on the list now I've done a few
>tweaks to the email system.
>
>
>
>Dolly
>
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com  



From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Tue Jul 19 08:06:53 2011
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:06:53 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <20110719145541.473B693B6@smtp.wcoil.com>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
	<20110719145541.473B693B6@smtp.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <00ad01cc4625$7e8261f0$7b8725d0$@co.uk>

How I've missed you all ....

Dolly

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> 
> Nope didn't get through, try again. LOL,     Mark



From rob at rustyiron.com  Tue Jul 19 08:33:33 2011
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:33:33 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <0A4BBEAA-7720-4B25-A9C2-8973D2991733@rustyiron.com>


On Jul 19, 2011, at 7:26 AM, Jim French wrote:
> 
> Just seeing if I can get messages to appear on the list now I've done a few
> tweaks to the email system.

What did you do, buy a Mac?





From rob at rustyiron.com  Tue Jul 19 08:39:32 2011
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:39:32 -0700
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport
In-Reply-To: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>
References: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <A3ED092A-5A30-4850-9DC0-15D414D5D640@rustyiron.com>


On Jul 19, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Jim French wrote:

> Excellent!  Now I can repost to the list, FINALLY, after about a year of
> only being able to read messages or post via Arnie, I'm here with a request
> for help.
> 
> Jim and I will be coming to Portland this year and we've already purchased
> an engine.  Is there any chance of the Olde Iron Express getting this baby
> from Ann Arbor in Michigan down to Portland?  It weighs approx 2,400lbs,
> 7'5" long and 3'8" wide on a pallet.
> 
> If not, the seller can get it to Coolspring in October for us.
> 
> Thanks for any help!
> 
> Dolly

WHAT baby from Ann Arbor? 



From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Tue Jul 19 08:48:10 2011
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:48:10 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <0A4BBEAA-7720-4B25-A9C2-8973D2991733@rustyiron.com>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
	<0A4BBEAA-7720-4B25-A9C2-8973D2991733@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <00b201cc462b$42d5d5f0$c88181d0$@co.uk>

Not rich enough to buy expensive gadgets just because they've got a cute
logo on them.

Dolly

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner


> On Jul 19, 2011, at 7:26 AM, Jim French wrote:
> >
> > Just seeing if I can get messages to appear on the list now I've done a
few
> > tweaks to the email system.
> 
> What did you do, buy a Mac?





From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Tue Jul 19 09:00:04 2011
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:00:04 +0100
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport
In-Reply-To: <A3ED092A-5A30-4850-9DC0-15D414D5D640@rustyiron.com>
References: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>
	<A3ED092A-5A30-4850-9DC0-15D414D5D640@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <00b301cc462c$ec4e46c0$c4ead440$@co.uk>

Hi Rob

A Spence, Smith & Kootz (off eBay.)

Dolly

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner


> WHAT baby from Ann Arbor?



From oldengin1 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 19 10:11:04 2011
From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:11:04 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <00b201cc462b$42d5d5f0$c88181d0$@co.uk>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
	<0A4BBEAA-7720-4B25-A9C2-8973D2991733@rustyiron.com>
	<00b201cc462b$42d5d5f0$c88181d0$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <CAJ0UjPkiM10A3xMq+0DaqTey5K1q6UFF5AKNVOC_b=_CFHJR4A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi dolly

On Jul 19, 2011 11:57 AM, "Jim French" <fbi at insulate.co.uk> wrote:

Not rich enough to buy expensive gadgets just because they've got a cute
logo on them.


Dolly

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner



> On Jul 19, 2011, at 7:26 AM, Jim French wrote:
> >
> > Just seeing if I can get messages to appe...


From gasenginetom at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 19 10:34:39 2011
From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:34:39 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Winland engine party pictures
In-Reply-To: <CAJ0UjPkiM10A3xMq+0DaqTey5K1q6UFF5AKNVOC_b=_CFHJR4A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>,
	<0A4BBEAA-7720-4B25-A9C2-8973D2991733@rustyiron.com>,
	<00b201cc462b$42d5d5f0$c88181d0$@co.uk>,
	<CAJ0UjPkiM10A3xMq+0DaqTey5K1q6UFF5AKNVOC_b=_CFHJR4A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT131-W28EC5187FF3B952AE2AD37C24D0@phx.gbl>



Here is a link to some pictures of my engine party over the weekend.
 
http://gasenginetom.com/Engine_Get_Together_2011.html
 
Tom Winland
Ohio 		 	   		  

From frappi at wcoil.com  Tue Jul 19 10:49:08 2011
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:49:08 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <00ad01cc4625$7e8261f0$7b8725d0$@co.uk>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
	<20110719145541.473B693B6@smtp.wcoil.com>
	<00ad01cc4625$7e8261f0$7b8725d0$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <20110719174912.4B9C99359@smtp.wcoil.com>


Welcome back!!!   We have missed the FBI too.


At 11:06 AM 7/19/2011, you wrote:
>How I've missed you all ....
>
>Dolly
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> >
> > Nope didn't get through, try again. LOL,     Mark
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com  



From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Tue Jul 19 11:28:58 2011
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (kkinney at herculesengines.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:28:58 -0400
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport
In-Reply-To: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>
References: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <8b8f740c2374df44cdbcbd74217d01d0.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>



Great to have you back on the list.
If nothing else works out maybe
we can pick it up on our way from Baraboo to Portland.?
Keith

> Excellent! Now I can repost to the list, FINALLY, after about
a year of 
> only being able to read messages or post via Arnie,
I'm here with a 
> request 
> for help. 
> 
> Jim and I will be coming to Portland this year and we've already
purchased 
> an engine. Is there any chance of the Olde Iron
Express getting this baby 
> from Ann Arbor in Michigan down to
Portland? It weighs approx 2,400lbs, 
> 7'5" long and
3'8" wide on a pallet. 
> 
> If not, the seller can
get it to Coolspring in October for us. 
> 
> Thanks for
any help! 
> 
> Dolly 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Jim French 
> 
>
fbi at insulate.co.uk 
> 
> FBI Sig 
> 
>
http://www.insulate.co.uk 
> 
>
http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
_______________________________________________ 
> SEL mailing
list 
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com 
>
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 
> 



From rob at rustyiron.com  Tue Jul 19 12:25:54 2011
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:25:54 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <00b201cc462b$42d5d5f0$c88181d0$@co.uk>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
	<0A4BBEAA-7720-4B25-A9C2-8973D2991733@rustyiron.com>
	<00b201cc462b$42d5d5f0$c88181d0$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <2E66C041-E919-4386-8C3C-07637F56E03C@rustyiron.com>

On Jul 19, 2011,  "Jim French" wrote:

> Not rich enough to buy expensive gadgets just because they've got a cute
> logo on them.
> 
> Dolly

The Flame Mistress is BACK!





From yostsw at atis.net  Tue Jul 19 12:38:28 2011
From: yostsw at atis.net (Spencer Yost)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:38:28 -0400
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport
In-Reply-To: <8b8f740c2374df44cdbcbd74217d01d0.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>
References: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>
	<8b8f740c2374df44cdbcbd74217d01d0.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>
Message-ID: <D692BA2C-0DC2-4F83-8E6F-CDBAD21AC4AF@atis.net>

It's not even 400 miles round trip from Portland to Ann Arbor.  So if you can't line up someone to pick it up on their way into Portland, I'll bet someone would be more than happy to make a day trip from Portland for gas/beer (hopefully in that order).

Spencer

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 19, 2011, at 14:28, kkinney at herculesengines.com wrote:

> 
> 
> Great to have you back on the list.
> If nothing else works out maybe
> we can pick it up on our way from Baraboo to Portland. 
> Keith
> 
>> Excellent! Now I can repost to the list, FINALLY, after about
> a year of 
>> only being able to read messages or post via Arnie,
> I'm here with a 
>> request 
>> for help. 
>> 
>> Jim and I will be coming to Portland this year and we've already
> purchased 
>> an engine. Is there any chance of the Olde Iron
> Express getting this baby 
>> from Ann Arbor in Michigan down to
> Portland? It weighs approx 2,400lbs, 
>> 7'5" long and
> 3'8" wide on a pallet. 
>> 
>> If not, the seller can
> get it to Coolspring in October for us. 
>> 
>> Thanks for
> any help! 
>> 
>> Dolly 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> Jim French 
>> 
>> 
> fbi at insulate.co.uk 
>> 
>> FBI Sig 
>> 
>> 
> http://www.insulate.co.uk 
>> 
>> 
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> _______________________________________________ 
>> SEL mailing
> list 
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com 
>> 
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Jul 19 11:11:48 2011
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:11:48 +0200
Subject: [SEL]  ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1311091201.32734.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 19/07/2011, you wrote:
>Message: 4
>Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:52:12 +0100
>From: "Jim French" <fbi at insulate.co.uk>
>Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport
>To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>

>Excellent!  Now I can repost to the list, FINALLY, after about a year of
>only being able to read messages or post via Arnie, I'm here with a request
>for help.
>
>Jim and I will be coming to Portland this year and we've already purchased
>an engine.  Is there any chance of the Olde Iron Express getting this baby
>from Ann Arbor in Michigan down to Portland?  It weighs approx 2,400lbs,
>7'5" long and 3'8" wide on a pallet.
>If not, the seller can get it to Coolspring in October for us.
>Thanks for any help!
>Dolly

Hi Helen,
         Great to have you back - the lists have been very quiet of late - 
maybe you can inject some life into them again :-)

         ALSO, we need someone to keep Arnie in check :-)
Luv ya,
Jerry 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Jul 19 13:09:10 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:09:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
Message-ID: <f18f391580f39e86aa18b0b225972917.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

Good luck with THAT one mate.
Dolly no longer has direct control of my food & beer supplies.
She is POWERLESS to control me.  Bwahahahahahaha......

On Tue, July 19, 2011 2:11 pm, Jerry Evans wrote:
> Hi Helen,
> Great to have you back - the lists have been very quiet of late -
> maybe you can inject some life into them again :-)
>
> ALSO, we need someone to keep Arnie in check :-)





From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Tue Jul 19 13:13:02 2011
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:13:02 +0100
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport
In-Reply-To: <D692BA2C-0DC2-4F83-8E6F-CDBAD21AC4AF@atis.net>
References: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>	<8b8f740c2374df44cdbcbd74217d01d0.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>
	<D692BA2C-0DC2-4F83-8E6F-CDBAD21AC4AF@atis.net>
Message-ID: <00dc01cc4650$432a5ec0$c97f1c40$@co.uk>

Hi Spencer

I know it's not too far, but I was hoping no-one would have to go too far
out of their way.  I don't think we'd be able to fit it in a hire car!
And the seller CAN deliver it to Coolspring for free, but we wouldn't get
to see it then!!!
Of course, we'd be happy to reimburse any transport in the preferred
currency.

Dolly

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Spencer Yost
> 
> It's not even 400 miles round trip from Portland to Ann Arbor.  So if you
> can't line up someone to pick it up on their way into Portland, I'll bet
> someone would be more than happy to make a day trip from Portland for
gas/beer
> (hopefully in that order).
> 
> Spencer



From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Tue Jul 19 13:13:49 2011
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:13:49 +0100
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
References: <mailman.1.1311091201.32734.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com >
	<5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
Message-ID: <00dd01cc4650$5f85bd30$1e913790$@co.uk>

Oh please!
Jerry, I'm good, but not THAT good.

Dolly


> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Evans


> Hi Helen,
>          Great to have you back - the lists have been very quiet of late -
> maybe you can inject some life into them again :-)
> 
>          ALSO, we need someone to keep Arnie in check :-)
> Luv ya,
> Jerry



From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk  Tue Jul 19 14:00:09 2011
From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (Craig Morrison)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:00:09 +0100
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
	<f18f391580f39e86aa18b0b225972917.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <A4BE5A50BBF743B6B63AE5B8AF7DEB86@craig8b4f43368>

Atleast Dolly may be  able to control your Beer and Char supplies at 
Portland this year!! AAAAARRRRRHHHHHH!!!!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)


> Good luck with THAT one mate.
> Dolly no longer has direct control of my food & beer supplies.
> She is POWERLESS to control me.  Bwahahahahahaha......
>
> On Tue, July 19, 2011 2:11 pm, Jerry Evans wrote:
>> Hi Helen,
>> Great to have you back - the lists have been very quiet of late -
>> maybe you can inject some life into them again :-)
>>
>> ALSO, we need someone to keep Arnie in check :-)
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Jul 19 14:10:11 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:10:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
In-Reply-To: <A4BE5A50BBF743B6B63AE5B8AF7DEB86@craig8b4f43368>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
	<f18f391580f39e86aa18b0b225972917.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
	<A4BE5A50BBF743B6B63AE5B8AF7DEB86@craig8b4f43368>
Message-ID: <2753ba566910ac2b49e1a7d376d7042e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

HAH!!  Once Dolly gets outside of a couple of jars of that fine NC char,
she won't be in control of anything.  Least of all her legs.  8-))

On Tue, July 19, 2011 5:00 pm, Craig Morrison wrote:
> Atleast Dolly may be  able to control your Beer and Char supplies at
> Portland this year!! AAAAARRRRRHHHHHH!!!!





From rotigel at me.com  Tue Jul 19 14:21:16 2011
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:21:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport
In-Reply-To: <8b8f740c2374df44cdbcbd74217d01d0.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>
References: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>
	<8b8f740c2374df44cdbcbd74217d01d0.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>
Message-ID: <66D7A1C4-3021-4488-97D1-9EDE9AE2F007@me.com>

That would be about 500+ miles out of your way!
	Dave

On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:28 PM, kkinney at herculesengines.com wrote:

>
>
> Great to have you back on the list.
> If nothing else works out maybe
> we can pick it up on our way from Baraboo to Portland.
> Keith
>
>> Excellent! Now I can repost to the list, FINALLY, after about
> a year of
>> only being able to read messages or post via Arnie,
> I'm here with a
>> request
>> for help.
>>
>> Jim and I will be coming to Portland this year and we've already
> purchased
>> an engine. Is there any chance of the Olde Iron
> Express getting this baby
>> from Ann Arbor in Michigan down to
> Portland? It weighs approx 2,400lbs,
>> 7'5" long and
> 3'8" wide on a pallet.
>>
>> If not, the seller can
> get it to Coolspring in October for us.
>>
>> Thanks for
> any help!
>>
>> Dolly
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Jim French
>>
>>
> fbi at insulate.co.uk
>>
>> FBI Sig
>>
>>
> http://www.insulate.co.uk
>>
>>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk  Tue Jul 19 14:25:15 2011
From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (Craig Morrison)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:25:15 +0100
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za><f18f391580f39e86aa18b0b225972917.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com><A4BE5A50BBF743B6B63AE5B8AF7DEB86@craig8b4f43368>
	<2753ba566910ac2b49e1a7d376d7042e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <D125BFAD9FBC4C8FAFB6CCDAC011BA65@craig8b4f43368>

As I remember you weren't in control of tour legs either.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)


> HAH!!  Once Dolly gets outside of a couple of jars of that fine NC char,
> she won't be in control of anything.  Least of all her legs.  8-))
> 
> On Tue, July 19, 2011 5:00 pm, Craig Morrison wrote:
>> Atleast Dolly may be  able to control your Beer and Char supplies at
>> Portland this year!! AAAAARRRRRHHHHHH!!!!
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Jul 19 14:43:56 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:43:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
In-Reply-To: <D125BFAD9FBC4C8FAFB6CCDAC011BA65@craig8b4f43368>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za><f18f391580f39e86aa18b0b225972917.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com><A4BE5A50BBF743B6B63AE5B8AF7DEB86@craig8b4f43368>
	<2753ba566910ac2b49e1a7d376d7042e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
	<D125BFAD9FBC4C8FAFB6CCDAC011BA65@craig8b4f43368>
Message-ID: <0ecbae87eea67dc31488d94b14f5b06f.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

It's called The Voice of Experience.  8-))

On Tue, July 19, 2011 5:25 pm, Craig Morrison wrote:
> As I remember you weren't in control of your legs either.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
>
>> HAH!!  Once Dolly gets outside of a couple of jars of that fine NC char,
>> she won't be in control of anything.  Least of all her legs.  8-))
>>
>> On Tue, July 19, 2011 5:00 pm, Craig Morrison wrote:
>>> Atleast Dolly may be  able to control your Beer and Char supplies at
>>> Portland this year!! AAAAARRRRRHHHHHH!!!!




From rotigel at me.com  Tue Jul 19 15:15:16 2011
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:15:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Arnie......
References: <E1QjBoS-00053a-HV@mail.oldengine.net>
Message-ID: <14C83E38-C601-4699-A0D5-7EB6CC57833F@me.com>

......this one has YOU written all over it!
	Dave


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> To: rotigel at me.com
> Subject: Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Ad upload  
> notification
>
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>
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>
> I\'m asking ?50,000 ono for this real gem, I\'m starting to play  
> with steam and need the finances for another project.
> I can help with shipping at your expense.
> My phone number is; 0044 1984 623198.
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>
> Link to the ad: http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=54187
>
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From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Tue Jul 19 16:07:55 2011
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (kkinney at herculesengines.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:07:55 -0400
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport
In-Reply-To: <66D7A1C4-3021-4488-97D1-9EDE9AE2F007@me.com>
References: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>
	<8b8f740c2374df44cdbcbd74217d01d0.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>
	<66D7A1C4-3021-4488-97D1-9EDE9AE2F007@me.com>
Message-ID: <d649e3e7ca36f88b4b9ddd2c8e857aa9.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>

True, it would be out of the way.  But, to help a friend, why not,
everybody needs an engine to play with at Portland.

As I see it from Baraboo to Portland via the Southern route is 452 miles.
Baraboo to Ann Arbor is 429 miles.
Ann Arbor to Portland is 187 miles.
So it would really be only 225~ miles extra.
Keith


> That would be about 500+ miles out of your way!
> 	Dave
>
> On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:28 PM, kkinney at herculesengines.com wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Great to have you back on the list.
>> If nothing else works out maybe
>> we can pick it up on our way from Baraboo to Portland.
>> Keith
>>
>>> Excellent! Now I can repost to the list, FINALLY, after about
>> a year of
>>> only being able to read messages or post via Arnie,
>> I'm here with a
>>> request
>>> for help.
>>>
>>> Jim and I will be coming to Portland this year and we've already
>> purchased
>>> an engine. Is there any chance of the Olde Iron
>> Express getting this baby
>>> from Ann Arbor in Michigan down to
>> Portland? It weighs approx 2,400lbs,
>>> 7'5" long and
>> 3'8" wide on a pallet.
>>>
>>> If not, the seller can
>> get it to Coolspring in October for us.
>>>
>>> Thanks for
>> any help!
>>>
>>> Dolly
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Jim French
>>>
>>>
>> fbi at insulate.co.uk
>>>
>>> FBI Sig
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.insulate.co.uk
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing
>> list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
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>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>




From oldengin1 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 19 18:15:23 2011
From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:15:23 -0400
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport
In-Reply-To: <CAJ0UjPnZs0fmSpRVA-xj_C=mM+0gz=3jp2PCvgpMuniA1kYT+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00a101cc4623$7167ced0$54376c70$@co.uk>
	<8b8f740c2374df44cdbcbd74217d01d0.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>
	<66D7A1C4-3021-4488-97D1-9EDE9AE2F007@me.com>
	<d649e3e7ca36f88b4b9ddd2c8e857aa9.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>
	<CAJ0UjP=HKVW+tZ33zsBFwY3mk566yMBYQ5=qN0TFEhBrW3Hibw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ0UjPnwaSoHjiP1nQRiTEh-q1vMgmVt91gVTnTc6+_ySZAOBw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ0UjPnZs0fmSpRVA-xj_C=mM+0gz=3jp2PCvgpMuniA1kYT+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ0UjP=hnWGeWpyKsxCUHyRy_jwKJhOcgR-rF254OXAC5wfM0A@mail.gmail.com>

Jim contact me off list about your engine move. I have a friend in battle
creek. Leroy

On Jul 19, 2011 7:17 PM, <kkinney at herculesengines.com> wrote:

True, it would be out of the way.  But, to help a friend, why not,
everybody needs an engine to play with at Portland.

As I see it from Baraboo to Portland via the Southern route is 452 miles.
Baraboo to Ann Arbor is 429 miles.
Ann Arbor to Portland is 187 miles.
So it would really be only 225~ miles extra.
Keith



> That would be about 500+ miles out of your way!
> Dave
>
> On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:28 PM, kkinney...


From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 19 18:23:34 2011
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:23:34 -0400
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
In-Reply-To: <0ecbae87eea67dc31488d94b14f5b06f.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za><f18f391580f39e86aa18b0b225972917.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com><A4BE5A50BBF743B6B63AE5B8AF7DEB86@craig8b4f43368>,
	<2753ba566910ac2b49e1a7d376d7042e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>,
	<D125BFAD9FBC4C8FAFB6CCDAC011BA65@craig8b4f43368>,
	<0ecbae87eea67dc31488d94b14f5b06f.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <col112-w454211403DBD1F940D065E954C0@phx.gbl>


We are well stocked with ample CHAR for Portland's finest!
See you all there  under the tent,  get ready!

 

> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:43:56 -0400
> From: fero_ah at city-net.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
> 
> It's called The Voice of Experience. 8-))
> 
> On Tue, July 19, 2011 5:25 pm, Craig Morrison wrote:
> > As I remember you weren't in control of your legs either.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> >
> >> HAH!! Once Dolly gets outside of a couple of jars of that fine NC char,
> >> she won't be in control of anything. Least of all her legs. 8-))
> >>
> >> On Tue, July 19, 2011 5:00 pm, Craig Morrison wrote:
> >>> Atleast Dolly may be able to control your Beer and Char supplies at
> >>> Portland this year!! AAAAARRRRRHHHHHH!!!!
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Tue Jul 19 19:54:10 2011
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (kkinney at herculesengines.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:54:10 -0400
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
In-Reply-To: <col112-w454211403DBD1F940D065E954C0@phx.gbl>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za><f18f391580f39e86aa18b0b225972917.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com><A4BE5A50BBF743B6B63AE5B8AF7DEB86@craig8b4f43368>,
	<2753ba566910ac2b49e1a7d376d7042e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>,
	<D125BFAD9FBC4C8FAFB6CCDAC011BA65@craig8b4f43368>,
	<0ecbae87eea67dc31488d94b14f5b06f.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
	<col112-w454211403DBD1F940D065E954C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1ff4a512e3c53a5e2b1a5f19d5e6138a.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>

Just when my liver thought it was save to come out......
Keith


>
> We are well stocked with ample CHAR for Portland's finest!
> See you all there  under the tent,  get ready!
>
>
>
>> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:43:56 -0400
>> From: fero_ah at city-net.com
>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
>>
>> It's called The Voice of Experience. 8-))
>>
>> On Tue, July 19, 2011 5:25 pm, Craig Morrison wrote:
>> > As I remember you weren't in control of your legs either.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
>> >
>> >> HAH!! Once Dolly gets outside of a couple of jars of that fine NC
>> char,
>> >> she won't be in control of anything. Least of all her legs. 8-))
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, July 19, 2011 5:00 pm, Craig Morrison wrote:
>> >>> Atleast Dolly may be able to control your Beer and Char supplies at
>> >>> Portland this year!! AAAAARRRRRHHHHHH!!!!
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Jul 19 21:42:27 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 00:42:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] ATIS Engine Transport (and Test)
In-Reply-To: <1ff4a512e3c53a5e2b1a5f19d5e6138a.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za><f18f391580f39e86aa18b0b225972917.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com><A4BE5A50BBF743B6B63AE5B8AF7DEB86@craig8b4f43368>,
	<2753ba566910ac2b49e1a7d376d7042e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>,
	<D125BFAD9FBC4C8FAFB6CCDAC011BA65@craig8b4f43368>,
	<0ecbae87eea67dc31488d94b14f5b06f.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
	<col112-w454211403DBD1F940D065E954C0@phx.gbl>
	<1ff4a512e3c53a5e2b1a5f19d5e6138a.squirrel@webmail2.web.com>
Message-ID: <39118a132e1b270f8ad00dc56fa62f3c.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com>

Liver is EVIL and must be punished!

On Tue, July 19, 2011 10:54 pm, kkinney at herculesengines.com wrote:
> Just when my liver thought it was save to come out......
> Keith




From cgandree at mchsi.com  Wed Jul 20 06:31:49 2011
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:31:49 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <2063941533.6019031311168709634.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

Hi ya Dolly,
Good to see you back on the lists.
Regards,
Curt Andree


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim French" <fbi at insulate.co.uk>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 9:26:35 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [SEL] Test

Hi folks

 

Just seeing if I can get messages to appear on the list now I've done a few
tweaks to the email system.

 

Dolly

 

 

_______________________________________________
SEL mailing list
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Wed Jul 20 06:42:23 2011
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:42:23 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <2063941533.6019031311168709634.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>
	<2063941533.6019031311168709634.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
Message-ID: <005201cc46e2$db438410$91ca8c30$@co.uk>

We've been here all the time, Curt - just relegated to lurking by
technology!

Dolly

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of cgandree at mchsi.com
> 
> Hi ya Dolly,
> Good to see you back on the lists.
> Regards,
> Curt Andree



From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Thu Jul 21 10:49:44 2011
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:49:44 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <005201cc46e2$db438410$91ca8c30$@co.uk>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>	<2063941533.6019031311168709634.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
	<005201cc46e2$db438410$91ca8c30$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <005f01cc47ce$96c85c10$c4591430$@com>

Dolly,
	Welcome back!  I sure wished you and the gang could make it to
Portland!

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim French
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:42 AM
To: 'The SEL email discussion list'
Subject: Re: [SEL] Test

We've been here all the time, Curt - just relegated to lurking by
technology!

Dolly




From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Thu Jul 21 14:36:04 2011
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:36:04 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <005f01cc47ce$96c85c10$c4591430$@com>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>	<2063941533.6019031311168709634.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>	<005201cc46e2$db438410$91ca8c30$@co.uk>
	<005f01cc47ce$96c85c10$c4591430$@com>
Message-ID: <00f801cc47ee$31eb1420$95c13c60$@co.uk>

See you there, Tommy - just looking at flights!

Dolly

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-
> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Judge Tommy Turner


> Dolly,
> 	Welcome back!  I sure wished you and the gang could make it to
> Portland!
> 
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY





From blcksmth at wcnet.org  Sat Jul 23 17:39:01 2011
From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 20:39:01 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <B7F51B15741247D2862AE2A7677DD9D7@Eagle>



Bob Willman
The Eagle's Anvil
WB8NQW
Bowling Green, Ohio

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government
from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of
them.

Thomas Jefferson




From blcksmth at wcnet.org  Sat Jul 23 17:40:47 2011
From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 20:40:47 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <005f01cc47ce$96c85c10$c4591430$@com>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>	<2063941533.6019031311168709634.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11><005201cc46e2$db438410$91ca8c30$@co.uk>
	<005f01cc47ce$96c85c10$c4591430$@com>
Message-ID: <EFFEB61AC6DC4E6DAD1D298D2A95E5EE@Eagle>

 


Bob Willman
The Eagle's Anvil
WB8NQW
Bowling Green, Ohio

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government
from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of
them.

Thomas Jefferson




From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Sat Jul 23 18:12:30 2011
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 11:12:30 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Test
In-Reply-To: <EFFEB61AC6DC4E6DAD1D298D2A95E5EE@Eagle>
References: <008c01cc461f$dd3859d0$97a90d70$@co.uk>	<2063941533.6019031311168709634.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11><005201cc46e2$db438410$91ca8c30$@co.uk>
	<005f01cc47ce$96c85c10$c4591430$@com>
	<EFFEB61AC6DC4E6DAD1D298D2A95E5EE@Eagle>
Message-ID: <4E2B717E.5070201@optusnet.com.au>

On 24/07/2011 10:40 AM, Bob Willman wrote:
>
>
>
> Bob Willman
> The Eagle's Anvil
> WB8NQW
> Bowling Green, Ohio
>
> I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government
> from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of
> them.
>
> Thomas Jefferson
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
Bob you arrived twice in Oz

Kerry


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Jul 24 22:07:14 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 06:07:14 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
In-Reply-To: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00JcocTM6aJs=Cjd1SS++Lp5sfSh_NKqqvGo_byy6emHiw@mail.gmail.com>

On 6 July 2011 14:10, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/suffolk_gas_engine_deception_case_opened_1_954052

There may be more activity in this matter, apparently the Police are
seeking information on other transactions/thefts and are asking for
others who may have dealt with the accused to come forward.

I'll post more info as soon as we hear back from the Police or the
others involved in the prosecution.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 24 23:55:33 2011
From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 06:55:33 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
In-Reply-To: <CAMEZ00JcocTM6aJs=Cjd1SS++Lp5sfSh_NKqqvGo_byy6emHiw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAMEZ00JcocTM6aJs=Cjd1SS++Lp5sfSh_NKqqvGo_byy6emHiw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT107-W36F3D72E3ACE74FC238484D0330@phx.gbl>


Thanks Peter,there may be more fake engines out there.   John

> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 06:07:14 +0100
> From: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> CC: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
> 
> On 6 July 2011 14:10, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> > http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/suffolk_gas_engine_deception_case_opened_1_954052
> 
> There may be more activity in this matter, apparently the Police are
> seeking information on other transactions/thefts and are asking for
> others who may have dealt with the accused to come forward.
> 
> I'll post more info as soon as we hear back from the Police or the
> others involved in the prosecution.
> 
> Peter
> -- 
> Peter A Forbes
> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
> http://stationary-engine.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.co.uk
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Jul 25 06:41:57 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:41:57 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
In-Reply-To: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00LQ=Wud1xnLYQ8R5EGQRr47MF2uw3NB9QbgTRxOQy+9Dg@mail.gmail.com>

On 6 July 2011 14:10, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/suffolk_gas_engine_deception_case_opened_1_954052

The following was posted by Geoff Challinor on the UK Stationary
Engine Forum today:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hi all
You will no doubt have noticed that I have kept off the various engine
news/forum sites for many years now.

Since the theft 11 years ago and the arson attack on my home, I
decided that it would be best not to get drawn on various comments and
criticisms about me, as I knew, that if the culprits of some of the
crimes should ever be bought to court, they would use any tactics to
get off. This proved to be so as this forum was mentioned in court.

I will in due course explain things in full but I am at the moment
trying to come to terms with 11 years of hell.

The Rotary valve Crossley will now be returned to the owner who kindly
loaned it to us many years ago. Some of the other stolen engines were
mentioned in court specifically that Green claimed to have collected
the O type Gardner gas engine for a friend (who was named in court)
and shipped it to him. This friend?s home is also where the Gardner
was recovered from in 2001. This friend also had some of our
lubricators, a magneto, a photo taken outside his back door of one of
the stolen models and he had sold the stolen Robinson to a very honest
collector who got suspicious of it, and that started some more police
investigations. I must point out that the ?friend? wasn't present in
court to defend himself against any implied or expressed allegations
that were made. Their name was also mentioned as being the buyer of
the National engine serial number 5469 in Australia.

A big thank you to all those who have stayed loyal and supported me
and the museum over the last few years, I hope now to be able to
contribute again to this and other sites.

 Geoff
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Jul 25 09:46:08 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:46:08 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
In-Reply-To: <CAMEZ00LQ=Wud1xnLYQ8R5EGQRr47MF2uw3NB9QbgTRxOQy+9Dg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMEZ00LQ=Wud1xnLYQ8R5EGQRr47MF2uw3NB9QbgTRxOQy+9Dg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00KxO07VaUgA_2C=W2AnZ9+CeRvAzfBN5A3RVOGEHxHLMQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 25 July 2011 14:41, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> The following was posted by Geoff Challinor on the UK Stationary
> Engine Forum today:

More from Geoff:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
More from Geoff Challinor on the still missing engines:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Judge did ask me what engines have still not been recovered. I
told him and would appreciate any information that might be out there
that would help us track them down. So just in case you know anything
they are}

 ? Gardner O type petrol engine No 24803

 But I doubt it will have that number, has anyone seen one with no
number on it or part of a number?

 The recovered Gardner had been re stamped and all that could be seen
was the first 3 digits 145 the last 2 digits were not readable, but a
piece of paper found in the workshop where the Gardner was recovered
from said 14576 Gardner O type. I think someone must have realised
that may not be a correct number and filed the rest off again hoping
it could not be traced. Having checked the Gardner records No O types
were built starting with 145.

It has been suggested that the arson attack on my house was to destroy
Gardner and Crossley records but as they weren?t I'm not sure, also
the Arson only happened after the first engines where recovered. But I
suppose only I really knew that the records where safe elsewhere and
it was only fairly recently that the fake Crossleys came to light with
an incorrect serial number.

 ? Hartop S type the one with the rotary side shaft

 Does anyone have any photos of it in the museum as the ones we have
do not show certain details?

 ? Half scale Robinson gas engine

 ? Half scale Gardner gas engine

 ? Model table steam engine

 ? Model horizontal steam engine

 ? Crossley, Hornsby and various other lubricators.

Please contact me via private message on this website or via
[email]enquiry at enginemuseum.org[/email] or tel 01625 874426 (+44 1625
874426 for overseas users)

Or phone UK Crime Stoppers on 0800 555 111 anonymously. (+44 800 555
111) There is an online form as well:

https://secure.crimestoppers-uk.org/ams.form.anonymous.asp

 Many thanks, Geoff
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk



From enquiry at enginemuseum.org  Thu Jul 28 02:58:52 2011
From: enquiry at enginemuseum.org (Anson Engine Museum)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:58:52 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
References: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMEZ00LQ=Wud1xnLYQ8R5EGQRr47MF2uw3NB9QbgTRxOQy+9Dg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5FC4CE656C74452DACDD269EBE98AA2C@ANSON2>

thanks Peter, I have signed up for the list but cannot seem to figure a way 
to get into it and read what is posted.

Any tips?

thanks, Margaret
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Listerdiesel" <listerdiesel at gmail.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Cc: "Stationary-Engine" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines


On 6 July 2011 14:10, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/suffolk_gas_engine_deception_case_opened_1_954052

The following was posted by Geoff Challinor on the UK Stationary
Engine Forum today:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hi all
You will no doubt have noticed that I have kept off the various engine
news/forum sites for many years now.

Since the theft 11 years ago and the arson attack on my home, I
decided that it would be best not to get drawn on various comments and
criticisms about me, as I knew, that if the culprits of some of the
crimes should ever be bought to court, they would use any tactics to
get off. This proved to be so as this forum was mentioned in court.

I will in due course explain things in full but I am at the moment
trying to come to terms with 11 years of hell.

The Rotary valve Crossley will now be returned to the owner who kindly
loaned it to us many years ago. Some of the other stolen engines were
mentioned in court specifically that Green claimed to have collected
the O type Gardner gas engine for a friend (who was named in court)
and shipped it to him. This friend?s home is also where the Gardner
was recovered from in 2001. This friend also had some of our
lubricators, a magneto, a photo taken outside his back door of one of
the stolen models and he had sold the stolen Robinson to a very honest
collector who got suspicious of it, and that started some more police
investigations. I must point out that the ?friend? wasn't present in
court to defend himself against any implied or expressed allegations
that were made. Their name was also mentioned as being the buyer of
the National engine serial number 5469 in Australia.

A big thank you to all those who have stayed loyal and supported me
and the museum over the last few years, I hope now to be able to
contribute again to this and other sites.

 Geoff
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk

_______________________________________________
SEL mailing list
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http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Thu Jul 28 03:14:07 2011
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 11:14:07 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
In-Reply-To: <5FC4CE656C74452DACDD269EBE98AA2C@ANSON2>
References: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMEZ00LQ=Wud1xnLYQ8R5EGQRr47MF2uw3NB9QbgTRxOQy+9Dg@mail.gmail.com>
	<5FC4CE656C74452DACDD269EBE98AA2C@ANSON2>
Message-ID: <CAMEZ00KHoEP4DoaEvB2djajjCVc+tsuTKnQC-2Rw-OM9oEKgwQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 28 July 2011 10:58, Anson Engine Museum <enquiry at enginemuseum.org> wrote:
> thanks Peter, I have signed up for the list but cannot seem to figure a way
> to get into it and read what is posted.
>
> Any tips?
>
> thanks, Margaret

You've done it already, your post to SEL is repeated out to all members.

It's very quiet at present, so don't worry, and you can also sign up
for the Digest, which is sent weekly or monthly by memory.

It isn't like the Forum where your posts are always there, the SEL and
Oldengine lists are just email repeaters, they re-bradcast what has
been sent to them.

Hope this helps!

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From frappi at wcoil.com  Thu Jul 28 07:03:20 2011
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:03:20 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7>
	<18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus>
	<002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7>
	<4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com>
	<A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER>
Message-ID: <20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>

Hi All,          Looking forward to seeing you all. Preparations at 
the Hancock County Fairgrounds start this Sunday so time at the 
keyboard for me is going to get slimmer then usual.
Folks can come and start speaking for their display spot Monday 
afternoon at 5 pm and exhibit set up can start Tuesday at noon. We 
will put your name on a display spot for you at your request but you 
must be present to speak for the spot. Or have a buddy speak for a 
spot for you. The spot is to be occupied by Thursday morning opening 
day of the show as by noon if you are not using it and someone comes 
that will we will give the spot away.
We usually do a corn roast for exhibitors on Friday evening. But 
considering the temps of late we are not going to decide for sure on 
that till the day, Will play that one by ear. Our fearless leader 
Jack W. is getting grumpy with the combination of heat and old age, 
LOL Don't tell him I said that GRINN. So give him words of 
encouragement through the week.
We still plan to have a splash of fuel for exhibit engines.
  This year we are encouraging the display of  LANTERNS, from barn to 
rail or firemans to camping lanterns, road and construction warning 
flares.  Any kind of vintage light fueled by a combustible fluid. One 
would normally think Kerosene lanterns but there are other fuels for 
lanterns. Pressure lanterns like the Coleman are a prime example. And 
there are more types of vintage lights then lanterns. Yellow Dogs as 
a example that comes to mind.  Larry Swartz has lead the way with 
encouraging that at a couple other shows in the area and its been a 
big success. So even if you do not plan to light it bring it. Don't 
care to keep what you got bring it to sell. Got spare parts going to 
no good use bring them to sell.
   There is no official organization of this aspect of the show we 
are just encouraging people to bring lanterns to add to their 
displays.  Last year one display had over 50 lanterns.

Looking forward to seeing everyone again!.  As usual if you have a 
few engine related items to sell bring it along with your 
display.   If all you want to do is sell engines come too we have a 
area just for engine parts venders by donation.
  Any questions call me at home 419.358.5206  or by cell 419.516.2996
Check out the web site too and see if that will answer your 
questions. http://www.nwoantiquemachinery.com/

Mark



Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com  



From gasenginetom at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 28 07:26:10 2011
From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:26:10 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7>,
	<18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus>,
	<002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7>,
	<4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com>,
	<A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER>,
	<20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <SNT131-W58D5C60086C27B1821C37BC2340@phx.gbl>


Thanks for the invite but I won't be able to attend this year due to picking up several trailers full of engines that I purchased and need to get home before Portland to sell hopefully alot of them.  :)
 
thanks
Tom Winland
Ohio
 

> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:03:20 -0400
> To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
> From: frappi at wcoil.com
> CC: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
> 
> Hi All, Looking forward to seeing you all. Preparations at 
> the Hancock County Fairgrounds start this Sunday so time at the 
> keyboard for me is going to get slimmer then usual.
> Folks can come and start speaking for their display spot Monday 
> afternoon at 5 pm and exhibit set up can start Tuesday at noon. We 
> will put your name on a display spot for you at your request but you 
> must be present to speak for the spot. Or have a buddy speak for a 
> spot for you. The spot is to be occupied by Thursday morning opening 
> day of the show as by noon if you are not using it and someone comes 
> that will we will give the spot away.
> We usually do a corn roast for exhibitors on Friday evening. But 
> considering the temps of late we are not going to decide for sure on 
> that till the day, Will play that one by ear. Our fearless leader 
> Jack W. is getting grumpy with the combination of heat and old age, 
> LOL Don't tell him I said that GRINN. So give him words of 
> encouragement through the week.
> We still plan to have a splash of fuel for exhibit engines.
> This year we are encouraging the display of LANTERNS, from barn to 
> rail or firemans to camping lanterns, road and construction warning 
> flares. Any kind of vintage light fueled by a combustible fluid. One 
> would normally think Kerosene lanterns but there are other fuels for 
> lanterns. Pressure lanterns like the Coleman are a prime example. And 
> there are more types of vintage lights then lanterns. Yellow Dogs as 
> a example that comes to mind. Larry Swartz has lead the way with 
> encouraging that at a couple other shows in the area and its been a 
> big success. So even if you do not plan to light it bring it. Don't 
> care to keep what you got bring it to sell. Got spare parts going to 
> no good use bring them to sell.
> There is no official organization of this aspect of the show we 
> are just encouraging people to bring lanterns to add to their 
> displays. Last year one display had over 50 lanterns.
> 
> Looking forward to seeing everyone again!. As usual if you have a 
> few engine related items to sell bring it along with your 
> display. If all you want to do is sell engines come too we have a 
> area just for engine parts venders by donation.
> Any questions call me at home 419.358.5206 or by cell 419.516.2996
> Check out the web site too and see if that will answer your 
> questions. http://www.nwoantiquemachinery.com/
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Shulaw
> 454 County Road 33
> Bluffton, OH. 45817
> USA
> 
> Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
> Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
> VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From don.h at wcoil.com  Thu Jul 28 10:32:51 2011
From: don.h at wcoil.com (don.h at wcoil.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:32:51 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7><18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus><002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7><4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com><A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER>
	<20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <313197BEE33B49DFB7DB42F9CDCFE1F0@DonPC>

also Mark  tell everbody   Friday night we are going to have our own country 
music jam at the mini park starting at 730 PM    singing old 50 60 style 
country music    NO ELECTRIC INSTRUMENTS   please you will be asked not to 
plug them in This way we wont have any hard hearing old foggie like me 
cranking it up drowing the rest out.
Ought to be fun I have a gang coming from our area that go to my jam coming 
there just to play .
Please pass the word to our fellow engine guys and gals .Everbody gets to do 
3 numbers if you sing tell jokes or play the spoons then we go to the next 
person around the room then start over will play till we run out of steam I 
hope to make this a big event for everbody on friday night after the corn 
roast Sorry I cant pay anybody or even get them in free come early and enjoy 
the show then top it off with good old music and maybe even a square dance 
or to We have a  man who has been calling for over 45 yrs and still playing 
every week he just celebrated his 82 birthday
Thanks   Don


-----Original Message----- 
From: Mark Shulaw
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 10:03 AM
To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Cc: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show

Hi All,          Looking forward to seeing you all. Preparations at
the Hancock County Fairgrounds start this Sunday so time at the
keyboard for me is going to get slimmer then usual.
Folks can come and start speaking for their display spot Monday
afternoon at 5 pm and exhibit set up can start Tuesday at noon. We
will put your name on a display spot for you at your request but you
must be present to speak for the spot. Or have a buddy speak for a
spot for you. The spot is to be occupied by Thursday morning opening
day of the show as by noon if you are not using it and someone comes
that will we will give the spot away.
We usually do a corn roast for exhibitors on Friday evening. But
considering the temps of late we are not going to decide for sure on
that till the day, Will play that one by ear. Our fearless leader
Jack W. is getting grumpy with the combination of heat and old age,
LOL Don't tell him I said that GRINN. So give him words of
encouragement through the week.
We still plan to have a splash of fuel for exhibit engines.
  This year we are encouraging the display of  LANTERNS, from barn to
rail or firemans to camping lanterns, road and construction warning
flares.  Any kind of vintage light fueled by a combustible fluid. One
would normally think Kerosene lanterns but there are other fuels for
lanterns. Pressure lanterns like the Coleman are a prime example. And
there are more types of vintage lights then lanterns. Yellow Dogs as
a example that comes to mind.  Larry Swartz has lead the way with
encouraging that at a couple other shows in the area and its been a
big success. So even if you do not plan to light it bring it. Don't
care to keep what you got bring it to sell. Got spare parts going to
no good use bring them to sell.
   There is no official organization of this aspect of the show we
are just encouraging people to bring lanterns to add to their
displays.  Last year one display had over 50 lanterns.

Looking forward to seeing everyone again!.  As usual if you have a
few engine related items to sell bring it along with your
display.   If all you want to do is sell engines come too we have a
area just for engine parts venders by donation.
  Any questions call me at home 419.358.5206  or by cell 419.516.2996
Check out the web site too and see if that will answer your
questions. http://www.nwoantiquemachinery.com/

Mark



Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com

_______________________________________________
SEL mailing list
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Jul 28 12:39:06 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:39:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <SNT131-W58D5C60086C27B1821C37BC2340@phx.gbl>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7>,
	<18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus>,
	<002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7>,
	<4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com>,
	<A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER>,
	<20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>
	<SNT131-W58D5C60086C27B1821C37BC2340@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <45250cdc86ef12631cc58bc7aad7cec4.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

Hi Tom,

Why not post a list and a link to pics?  Maybe get some pre-sold before
Portland?

See ya,  Arnie

On Thu, July 28, 2011 10:26 am, Tom Winland wrote:
>
> Thanks for the invite but I won't be able to attend this year due to
> picking up several trailers full of engines that I purchased and need to
> get home before Portland to sell hopefully alot of them.  :)
>
> thanks
> Tom Winland
> Ohio




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Jul 28 12:43:58 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:43:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <313197BEE33B49DFB7DB42F9CDCFE1F0@DonPC>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7><18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus><002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7><4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com><A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER>
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Don, that sounds like fun.  Where is the "mini park"?

See ya there,  Arnie

On Thu, July 28, 2011 1:32 pm, don.h at wcoil.com wrote:
> also Mark  tell everbody   Friday night we are going to have our own
> country
> music jam at the mini park starting at 730 PM    singing old 50 60 style
> country music    NO ELECTRIC INSTRUMENTS   please you will be asked not to
> plug them in This way we wont have any hard hearing old foggie like me
> cranking it up drowing the rest out.
> Ought to be fun I have a gang coming from our area that go to my jam
> coming
> there just to play .
> Please pass the word to our fellow engine guys and gals .Everbody gets to
> do
> 3 numbers if you sing tell jokes or play the spoons then we go to the next
> person around the room then start over will play till we run out of steam
> I
> hope to make this a big event for everbody on friday night after the corn
> roast Sorry I cant pay anybody or even get them in free come early and
> enjoy
> the show then top it off with good old music and maybe even a square dance
> or to We have a  man who has been calling for over 45 yrs and still
> playing
> every week he just celebrated his 82 birthday
> Thanks   Don




From gasenginetom at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 28 12:53:15 2011
From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:53:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <45250cdc86ef12631cc58bc7aad7cec4.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7>, ,
	<18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus>, ,
	<002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7>, ,
	<4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com>, ,
	<A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER>, ,
	<20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>,
	<SNT131-W58D5C60086C27B1821C37BC2340@phx.gbl>,
	<45250cdc86ef12631cc58bc7aad7cec4.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <SNT131-W8359BCF4A7859E5B30A29C2340@phx.gbl>


Good idea Arnie,
 
I'll try to do that once I get them home next weekend.  I'm not sure what all I got in this bunch.  I know there is about 100 hit miss engines, alot of aircooled engines, and several old steel wheeled walk behind garden tractors.
 
Tom
 

> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:39:06 -0400
> From: fero_ah at city-net.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
> 
> Hi Tom,
> 
> Why not post a list and a link to pics? Maybe get some pre-sold before
> Portland?
> 
> See ya, Arnie
> 
> On Thu, July 28, 2011 10:26 am, Tom Winland wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the invite but I won't be able to attend this year due to
> > picking up several trailers full of engines that I purchased and need to
> > get home before Portland to sell hopefully alot of them. :)
> >
> > thanks
> > Tom Winland
> > Ohio
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Jul 28 13:01:24 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:01:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <SNT131-W8359BCF4A7859E5B30A29C2340@phx.gbl>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7>, ,
	<18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus>,
	<002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7>,
	<4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com>,
	<A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER>,
	<20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>,
	<SNT131-W58D5C60086C27B1821C37BC2340@phx.gbl>,
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Hi Tom,

I saw a YouTube video of a previous trailer load arriving at your place.
You've got a seriously righteous olde iron hauler there!  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

On Thu, July 28, 2011 3:53 pm, Tom Winland wrote:
>
> I'll try to do that once I get them home next weekend.  I'm not sure what
> all I got in this bunch.  I know there is about 100 hit miss engines, alot
> of aircooled engines, and several old steel wheeled walk behind garden
> tractors.





From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Jul 28 13:16:01 2011
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:16:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7>
	<18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus>
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	<4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com>
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	<20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <934db8abe4c5278dca81231a69ae8aa5.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>

Hi Mark,

Leroy's got Dave and I setup down in the Low Rent District in the flood
plain alongside the river.  We are SOOO looking forward to it.

IMHO, the Findlay show is one of the top shows; right up there with
Portland and Coolspring.  And in terms of how exhibitors are treated by
the club sponsoring the show, Findlay is clearly #1.

I REALLY hope that folks don't decide to cancel the Friday evening corn
roast.  It's the one thing that I look forward to all year
(...B_U_R_P...).

If you've never been to Findlay, why not give it a try this year?  It's
also a good place to tune-up your Portland exhibit.

See ya,  Arnie

On Thu, July 28, 2011 10:03 am, Mark Shulaw wrote:
> Hi All,          Looking forward to seeing you all. Preparations at
> the Hancock County Fairgrounds start this Sunday so time at the
> keyboard for me is going to get slimmer then usual.
> Folks can come and start speaking for their display spot Monday
> afternoon at 5 pm and exhibit set up can start Tuesday at noon. We
> will put your name on a display spot for you at your request but you
> must be present to speak for the spot. Or have a buddy speak for a
> spot for you. The spot is to be occupied by Thursday morning opening
> day of the show as by noon if you are not using it and someone comes
> that will we will give the spot away.
> We usually do a corn roast for exhibitors on Friday evening. But
> considering the temps of late we are not going to decide for sure on
> that till the day, Will play that one by ear. Our fearless leader
> Jack W. is getting grumpy with the combination of heat and old age,
> LOL Don't tell him I said that GRINN. So give him words of
> encouragement through the week.
> We still plan to have a splash of fuel for exhibit engines.
>   This year we are encouraging the display of  LANTERNS, from barn to
> rail or firemans to camping lanterns, road and construction warning
> flares.  Any kind of vintage light fueled by a combustible fluid. One
> would normally think Kerosene lanterns but there are other fuels for
> lanterns. Pressure lanterns like the Coleman are a prime example. And
> there are more types of vintage lights then lanterns. Yellow Dogs as
> a example that comes to mind.  Larry Swartz has lead the way with
> encouraging that at a couple other shows in the area and its been a
> big success. So even if you do not plan to light it bring it. Don't
> care to keep what you got bring it to sell. Got spare parts going to
> no good use bring them to sell.
>    There is no official organization of this aspect of the show we
> are just encouraging people to bring lanterns to add to their
> displays.  Last year one display had over 50 lanterns.
>
> Looking forward to seeing everyone again!.  As usual if you have a
> few engine related items to sell bring it along with your
> display.   If all you want to do is sell engines come too we have a
> area just for engine parts venders by donation.
>   Any questions call me at home 419.358.5206  or by cell 419.516.2996
> Check out the web site too and see if that will answer your
> questions. http://www.nwoantiquemachinery.com/




From rotigel at me.com  Thu Jul 28 13:37:38 2011
From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:37:38 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <934db8abe4c5278dca81231a69ae8aa5.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7>
	<18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus>
	<002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7>
	<4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com>
	<A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER>
	<20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>
	<934db8abe4c5278dca81231a69ae8aa5.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <3DA858CC-E921-4AC6-8885-06D5232B9D4E@me.com>

Hell Arnie, You start looking forward to next years corn roast about  
9:30 every Friday night we are at the Findlay show! What's new?
	Dave

On Jul 28, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
>
> I REALLY hope that folks don't decide to cancel the Friday evening  
> corn
> roast.  It's the one thing that I look forward to all year
> (...B_U_R_P...).
>
> See ya,  Arnie



From frappi at wcoil.com  Thu Jul 28 14:41:29 2011
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 17:41:29 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <313197BEE33B49DFB7DB42F9CDCFE1F0@DonPC>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7>
	<18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus>
	<002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7>
	<4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com>
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	<20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com>
	<313197BEE33B49DFB7DB42F9CDCFE1F0@DonPC>
Message-ID: <20110728214129.817A597E3@smtp.wcoil.com>

I think you just did tell everyone Don ;-) besides there so much to 
talk about at this show theres literally not enough room here to do 
it. And I don't have the time to write it, LOL    Mark


At 01:32 PM 7/28/2011, you wrote:
>also Mark  tell everbody   Friday night we are going to have our own country
>music jam at the mini park starting at 730 PM    singing old 50 60 style
>country music    NO ELECTRIC INSTRUMENTS   please you will be asked not to
>plug them in This way we wont have any hard hearing old foggie like me
>cranking it up drowing the rest out.
>Ought to be fun I have a gang coming from our area that go to my jam coming
>there just to play .
>Please pass the word to our fellow engine guys and gals .Everbody gets to do
>3 numbers if you sing tell jokes or play the spoons then we go to the next
>person around the room then start over will play till we run out of steam I
>hope to make this a big event for everbody on friday night after the corn
>roast Sorry I cant pay anybody or even get them in free come early and enjoy
>the show then top it off with good old music and maybe even a square dance
>or to We have a  man who has been calling for over 45 yrs and still playing
>every week he just celebrated his 82 birthday
>Thanks   Don
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Shulaw
>Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 10:03 AM
>To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
>Cc: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
>
>Hi All,          Looking forward to seeing you all. Preparations at
>the Hancock County Fairgrounds start this Sunday so time at the
>keyboard for me is going to get slimmer then usual.
>Folks can come and start speaking for their display spot Monday
>afternoon at 5 pm and exhibit set up can start Tuesday at noon. We
>will put your name on a display spot for you at your request but you
>must be present to speak for the spot. Or have a buddy speak for a
>spot for you. The spot is to be occupied by Thursday morning opening
>day of the show as by noon if you are not using it and someone comes
>that will we will give the spot away.
>We usually do a corn roast for exhibitors on Friday evening. But
>considering the temps of late we are not going to decide for sure on
>that till the day, Will play that one by ear. Our fearless leader
>Jack W. is getting grumpy with the combination of heat and old age,
>LOL Don't tell him I said that GRINN. So give him words of
>encouragement through the week.
>We still plan to have a splash of fuel for exhibit engines.
>   This year we are encouraging the display of  LANTERNS, from barn to
>rail or firemans to camping lanterns, road and construction warning
>flares.  Any kind of vintage light fueled by a combustible fluid. One
>would normally think Kerosene lanterns but there are other fuels for
>lanterns. Pressure lanterns like the Coleman are a prime example. And
>there are more types of vintage lights then lanterns. Yellow Dogs as
>a example that comes to mind.  Larry Swartz has lead the way with
>encouraging that at a couple other shows in the area and its been a
>big success. So even if you do not plan to light it bring it. Don't
>care to keep what you got bring it to sell. Got spare parts going to
>no good use bring them to sell.
>    There is no official organization of this aspect of the show we
>are just encouraging people to bring lanterns to add to their
>displays.  Last year one display had over 50 lanterns.
>
>Looking forward to seeing everyone again!.  As usual if you have a
>few engine related items to sell bring it along with your
>display.   If all you want to do is sell engines come too we have a
>area just for engine parts venders by donation.
>   Any questions call me at home 419.358.5206  or by cell 419.516.2996
>Check out the web site too and see if that will answer your
>questions. http://www.nwoantiquemachinery.com/
>
>Mark
>
>
>
>Mark Shulaw
>454 County Road 33
>Bluffton, OH. 45817
>USA
>
>Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
>Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
>VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com
>
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Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com  



From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Thu Jul 28 15:16:08 2011
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:16:08 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Court Case over Stolen/Fake engines
In-Reply-To: <5FC4CE656C74452DACDD269EBE98AA2C@ANSON2>
References: <CAMEZ00JkbmWDeLx2jfVmOKZEKvqp7P9L6bfucHscbBcYR2iD6Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMEZ00LQ=Wud1xnLYQ8R5EGQRr47MF2uw3NB9QbgTRxOQy+9Dg@mail.gmail.com>
	<5FC4CE656C74452DACDD269EBE98AA2C@ANSON2>
Message-ID: <4E31DFA8.4040406@optusnet.com.au>

Welcome to the list Margaret & Geoff, I hope the recent case can finally 
bring some closure to the whole sorry event.
The Anson is a fantastic museum and totally enjoyed my time there a few 
years ago with Geoff, well done

Kerry Morris
Lithgow NSW Oz


On 28/07/2011 7:58 PM, Anson Engine Museum wrote:
> thanks Peter, I have signed up for the list but cannot seem to figure a way
> to get into it and read what is posted.
>
> Any tips?
>
> thanks, Margaret
>



From don.h at wcoil.com  Thu Jul 28 19:16:11 2011
From: don.h at wcoil.com (don.h at wcoil.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 22:16:11 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show
In-Reply-To: <9945bc191817cef37e17dc4ca453e002.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7><18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus><002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7><4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com><A22FEB532CF54BF2A8CADD168DBC3E9E@JIMDUNMYER><20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com><313197BEE33B49DFB7DB42F9CDCFE1F0@DonPC>
	<9945bc191817cef37e17dc4ca453e002.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>
Message-ID: <94867D5038D2406A958D585119E2E01D@DonPC>

Hi Arnie  Mini park is just on the right when you coming in the entrance up 
front its next to the old Potties just right of the first building s
cu there   Don

-----Original Message----- 
From: Arnie Fero
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 3:43 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Findlay Ohio Aug 4-7 Engine and Tractor Show

Don, that sounds like fun.  Where is the "mini park"?

See ya there,  Arnie

On Thu, July 28, 2011 1:32 pm, don.h at wcoil.com wrote:
> also Mark  tell everbody   Friday night we are going to have our own
> country
> music jam at the mini park starting at 730 PM    singing old 50 60 style
> country music    NO ELECTRIC INSTRUMENTS   please you will be asked not to
> plug them in This way we wont have any hard hearing old foggie like me
> cranking it up drowing the rest out.
> Ought to be fun I have a gang coming from our area that go to my jam
> coming
> there just to play .
> Please pass the word to our fellow engine guys and gals .Everbody gets to
> do
> 3 numbers if you sing tell jokes or play the spoons then we go to the next
> person around the room then start over will play till we run out of steam
> I
> hope to make this a big event for everbody on friday night after the corn
> roast Sorry I cant pay anybody or even get them in free come early and
> enjoy
> the show then top it off with good old music and maybe even a square dance
> or to We have a  man who has been calling for over 45 yrs and still
> playing
> every week he just celebrated his 82 birthday
> Thanks   Don


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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat Jul 30 12:16:10 2011
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:16:10 +0200
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Please identify this modern US made engine (motor)
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110730211437.01a3ecd8@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

   Hi All,
           Someone dumped this small modern USA made aircooled motor on my
   doorstep. Can anyone identify it for me please? (Dave, when answering
   "Yes" please give details :-))
   [1]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
           It's not a "Hit 'n Miss" but, if someone threw it at me and I
   took a swipe at it with a baseball bat and missed would that qualify as
   a "Hit 'n Miss" :-)
           Thanks in advance.

   Keep the revs up (or down)
   Jerry Evans
   Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
   Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
   <[2]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>

References

   1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
   2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat Jul 30 12:26:41 2011
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:26:41 +0200
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Please identify this modern US made engine (motor)/More
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110730212449.01a844d8@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

   I just noticed the casting mark on this pic:
   <[1]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/AC2.jpg>
   looks like the Briggs & Stratton logo to me - do they make anything
   this small ?
   Jerry
   Hi All,
           Someone dumped this small modern USA made aircooled motor on my
   doorstep. Can anyone identify it for me please? (Dave, when answering
   "Yes" please give details :-))
   [2]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
           It's not a "Hit 'n Miss" but, if someone threw it at me and I
   took a swipe at it with a baseball bat and missed would that qualify as
   a "Hit 'n Miss" :-)
           Thanks in advance.

   Keep the revs up (or down)
   Jerry Evans
   Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
   Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
   <[3]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>

References

   1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/AC2.jpg
   2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
   3. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm


From amkimmell at gmail.com  Sat Jul 30 12:37:39 2011
From: amkimmell at gmail.com (Tony Kimmell)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:37:39 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Please identify this modern US made engine (motor)
Message-ID: <p30r9vd6t0nrhnmctdquvqte.1312054568813@email.android.com>

Jerry,
Judging by the square inset in the end of the crankshaft, I'd guess that it's probably a weed trimmer motor.  Other than that, I got nothing  :-)

-Tony

Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za> wrote:

>   Hi All,
>           Someone dumped this small modern USA made aircooled motor on my
>   doorstep. Can anyone identify it for me please? (Dave, when answering
>   "Yes" please give details :-))
>   [1]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
>           It's not a "Hit 'n Miss" but, if someone threw it at me and I
>   took a swipe at it with a baseball bat and missed would that qualify as
>   a "Hit 'n Miss" :-)
>           Thanks in advance.
>
>   Keep the revs up (or down)
>   Jerry Evans
>   Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
>   Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
>   <[2]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>
>
>References
>
>   1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
>   2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From jlb94 at juno.com  Sat Jul 30 12:46:19 2011
From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 19:46:19 GMT
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Please identify this modern US made engine
	(motor)/More
Message-ID: <20110730.154619.1038.2@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>

Hi Jerry,
That square hole on the front shaft would indicate it ran a cable - probably a weed whacker.


 
Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
 ,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
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---------- Original Message ----------
From: Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: SEL List <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Please identify this modern US made engine (motor)/More
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:26:41 +0200

  I just noticed the casting mark on this pic:
  <[1]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/AC2.jpg>
  looks like the Briggs & Stratton logo to me - do they make anything
  this small ?
  Jerry
  Hi All,
          Someone dumped this small modern USA made aircooled motor on my
  doorstep. Can anyone identify it for me please? (Dave, when answering
  "Yes" please give details :-))
  [2]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
          It's not a "Hit 'n Miss" but, if someone threw it at me and I
  took a swipe at it with a baseball bat and missed would that qualify as
  a "Hit 'n Miss" :-)
          Thanks in advance.

  Keep the revs up (or down)
  Jerry Evans
  Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
  Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
  <[3]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>

References

  1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/AC2.jpg
  2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
  3. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm
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From amkimmell at gmail.com  Sat Jul 30 12:49:10 2011
From: amkimmell at gmail.com (Tony Kimmell)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:49:10 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Please identify this modern US made engine
 (motor)/More
Message-ID: <6o2amux9ynwpw4ag52lromh8.1312055255466@email.android.com>

Now that you mention it, that oil fill plug is the same style that Briggs has used on lawnmower engines for the last 50 years.  I don't know much about newer Briggs engines, but it's definitely a possibility.

-Tony

Jerry Evans <jerrye at databak.co.za> wrote:

>   I just noticed the casting mark on this pic:
>   <[1]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/AC2.jpg>
>   looks like the Briggs & Stratton logo to me - do they make anything
>   this small ?
>   Jerry
>   Hi All,
>           Someone dumped this small modern USA made aircooled motor on my
>   doorstep. Can anyone identify it for me please? (Dave, when answering
>   "Yes" please give details :-))
>   [2]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
>           It's not a "Hit 'n Miss" but, if someone threw it at me and I
>   took a swipe at it with a baseball bat and missed would that qualify as
>   a "Hit 'n Miss" :-)
>           Thanks in advance.
>
>   Keep the revs up (or down)
>   Jerry Evans
>   Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
>   Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
>   <[3]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>
>
>References
>
>   1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/AC2.jpg
>   2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
>   3. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm
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From swilliams268 at frontier.com  Sat Jul 30 14:34:28 2011
From: swilliams268 at frontier.com (Steve W.)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:34:28 -0400
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Please identify this modern US made engine (motor)
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20110730211437.01a3ecd8@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110730211437.01a3ecd8@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <4E3478E4.9040107@frontier.com>

Jerry Evans wrote:
>    Hi All,
>            Someone dumped this small modern USA made aircooled motor on my
>    doorstep. Can anyone identify it for me please? (Dave, when answering
>    "Yes" please give details :-))
>    [1]http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
>            It's not a "Hit 'n Miss" but, if someone threw it at me and I
>    took a swipe at it with a baseball bat and missed would that qualify as
>    a "Hit 'n Miss" :-)
>            Thanks in advance.
> 
>    Keep the revs up (or down)
>    Jerry Evans
>    Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
>    Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
>    <[2]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>
> 
> References
> 
>    1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/aircool/index.html
>    2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm
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Briggs and Stratton Micro engine direct drive version.
4 stroke, air cooled, 1HP
Most of the direct drive ones were used on small pumps and such. The 
same engine in a clutch drive was used on string trimmers.


-- 
Steve W.



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sun Jul 31 10:19:30 2011
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:19:30 +0200
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 88, Issue 20
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1312128002.11871.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110731190901.020e16d8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>

   At 06:00 PM 31/07/2011, Steve W wrote:

     ------------------------------
     Message: 6
     Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:34:28 -0400
     From: "Steve W." <swilliams268 at frontier.com>
     Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Please identify this modern US made engine
             (motor)

     <Big Snip>

   Briggs and Stratton Micro engine direct drive version.
   4 stroke, air cooled, 1HP
   Most of the direct drive ones were used on small pumps and such. The
   same engine in a clutch drive was used on string trimmers.
   Steve W.
   Thanks Steve (and other replies),
           It was identified on the "other list" by Steve Gray as follows:
   "HI Jerry -
     That's indeed a Briggs weedwacker engine sold by Sears about 4 years
   ago. 40cc. Have one still in use. With a few screws removed, I can get
   a decent picture of it tomorrow if you'd like. Mine has the same
   muffler and carb on it. Can also supply the numbers if needed.
   - Steve"
           NOW, can anyone tell me the Model, etc. so that I can search
   the Briggs site for a manual - maybe I'll do something with it yet.
           Dave and Arnie, it's too light for a boat anchor but I'm sure
   it would annoy other exhibitors at shows as much as a Maytag :-)

   Keep the revs up (or down)
   Jerry Evans
   Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
   Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
   <[1]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>

References

   1. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sun Jul 31 10:25:25 2011
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:25:25 +0200
Subject: [SEL] O.T. Please identify this modern US made engine/more
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110731192224.020da360@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>

   Hi All,
           After my last reply I got this from Steve Gray:
   "Mornin' Jerry -
     Check out [1]http://www.oldengineshed.com/wacker.html. Just some
   quick pics I took this A.M.
   Model # 021132, Type # 0599 E1, Code # 0603172A.
   The pic of the "Family #" tag probably just relates to this tree hugger
   state of 'Kalifornia'.
   -Steve".
   Thanks again to all for the replies.
   Jerry
   At 06:00 PM 31/07/2011, Steve W wrote:

     ------------------------------
     Message: 6
     Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:34:28 -0400
     From: "Steve W." <swilliams268 at frontier.com>
     Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Please identify this modern US made engine
             (motor)

     <Big Snip>

   Briggs and Stratton Micro engine direct drive version.
   4 stroke, air cooled, 1HP
   Most of the direct drive ones were used on small pumps and such. The
   same engine in a clutch drive was used on string trimmers.
   Steve W.
   Thanks Steve (and other replies),
           It was identified on the "other list" by Steve Gray as follows:
   "HI Jerry -
     That's indeed a Briggs weedwacker engine sold by Sears about 4 years
   ago. 40cc. Have one still in use. With a few screws removed, I can get
   a decent picture of it tomorrow if you'd like. Mine has the same
   muffler and carb on it. Can also supply the numbers if needed.
   - Steve"
           NOW, can anyone tell me the Model, etc. so that I can search
   the Briggs site for a manual - maybe I'll do something with it yet.
           Dave and Arnie, it's too light for a boat anchor but I'm sure
   it would annoy other exhibitors at shows as much as a Maytag :-)

   Keep the revs up (or down)
   Jerry Evans
   Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
   Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
   <[2]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>

References

   1. http://www.oldengineshed.com/wacker.html
   2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm