From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Tue Feb 1 19:32:05 2011 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:32:05 +1100 Subject: [SEL] QLD Tropical Cyclone Warning: Cape Melville to Sarina & Inland In-Reply-To: <000301cbc1f5$6f7a85c0$4e6f9140$@net.au> References: <000301cbc1f5$6f7a85c0$4e6f9140$@net.au> Message-ID: <7AA12BAB3E774FC3BB8D7636550E1166@KerryPC> Check out the size of this baby compared to the map of USA. Button down Ian http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/floodrelief/how-cyclone-yasi-compares-around-the-world/story-fn7ik2te-1225998762870 Kerry Morris Lithgow NSW Oz www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/ From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Tue Feb 1 21:55:03 2011 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:55:03 +1100 Subject: [SEL] OT Want to watch the developing QLD cyclone? Message-ID: <018101cbc29d$bce1cdc0$36a56940$@steamengine.com.au> Hi all, I have my own weather station connected to weather underground. I've been watching things slowly unfold on weather stations that belong to people like me who live in the affected area (I don't - I'm 2500km south). If you want to watch the readings from all these weather stations take a look at this map: http://tinyurl.com/4lwlrq5 It's mostly fairly quiet at the moment but some places are getting winds steady around 50 - 60 km/h expecting up to 300 km/h. I imagine these weather stations will disappear as the power fails later tonight. If you want to watch the moment that the government Willis Island radar weather station was smashed see this one: http://www.theweatherchaser.com/radar-loop/IDR412-willis-island/2011-02-01-0 4/2011-02-02-04 Note if for some reason you don't like TinyURL then here is the original: http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/?lat=-21.08450 &lon=147.59033&zoom=6&type=hyb&units=metric&rad=1&rad.num=1&rad.spd=25&rad.o pa=70&rad.stm=0&rad.type=N0R&rad.type2=&rad.smo=1&rad.mrg=0&wxsn=1&wxsn.mode =tw&svr=0&cams=0&sat=0&riv=0&mm=0&hur=0&fire=0&tor=0&ndfd=0&pix=0&dir=0&ads= 0&ib=1&tfk=0&ski=0 Regards Paul From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Feb 2 03:47:30 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 06:47:30 EST Subject: [SEL] QLD Tropical Cyclone Warning: Cape Melville to Sarina & Inland Message-ID: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> In a message dated 2/1/2011 10:39:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, ozengine at optusnet.com.au writes: Check out the size of this baby compared to the map of USA. Wow Kerry, that is an impressive storm! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From curt at rustyiron.com Wed Feb 2 09:33:38 2011 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:33:38 -0700 Subject: [SEL] QLD Tropical Cyclone Warning: Cape Melville to Sarina & Inland In-Reply-To: <7AA12BAB3E774FC3BB8D7636550E1166@KerryPC> References: <000301cbc1f5$6f7a85c0$4e6f9140$@net.au> <7AA12BAB3E774FC3BB8D7636550E1166@KerryPC> Message-ID: Kerry, Looks like about the same size as the snow storm hitting the mid-west and NE right now :-) You guys expecting any rain in Lithgow from this? Curt > Check out the size of this baby compared to the map of USA. > > Button down Ian > > http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/floodrelief/how-cyclone-yasi-compares-around-the-world/story-fn7ik2te-1225998762870 From curt at rustyiron.com Wed Feb 2 10:11:07 2011 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:11:07 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Alfa DeLaval In-Reply-To: <20110120224446.ECF949519@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20110120224446.ECF949519@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <344979ab29cecf549fea733b85921654.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Thank you Mark. Yeah it's been a long time in replying, but I'm not checking the SEL email too often these days. Way too much going on here at work. Curt > Hi Curt, Most likely your engine was built by Lauson for DeLaval. > The Lauson Frost King and the Delaval are identical in most cases. Mark > > > At 03:59 PM 1/20/2011, you wrote: >>Guys, >>Been a while since I've posted anything on the SEL. >> >>Any Alfa DeLaval experts out there? I'm curious to know where their >>engines were made. Did Alfa DeLeval make their own engines, or were they >>rebadged engines of some other manufacturer? >> >>I'm working on a Alfa Laval heat exchanger and I'm curious about how the >>engine history fits into the company. The history posted on the company >>website completely omits the engine portion of the business. That history >>focuses on the milk separating equipment. >> >>Curt Holland >>Bessemer City, NC >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Mark Shulaw > 454 County Road 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Wed Feb 2 12:25:26 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 15:25:26 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: [AT] OT 1913 Harley References: <5.2.0.9.0.20110202125938.0bcb0980@ncweb.com> Message-ID: > > >> I figured some of you riding out the snow and ice would enjoy >> watching this. >> >> >> http://www.fark.com/cgi/vidplayer.pl?IDLink=5734912 >> >> Charlie From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Wed Feb 2 14:33:06 2011 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 09:33:06 +1100 Subject: [SEL] QLD Tropical Cyclone Warning: Cape Melville to Sarina & Inland In-Reply-To: References: <000301cbc1f5$6f7a85c0$4e6f9140$@net.au><7AA12BAB3E774FC3BB8D7636550E1166@KerryPC> Message-ID: <87979BACC21C4EE79EA97CB3F311E737@KerryPC> G'Day Curt Seen the new snow storm on TV, the USA are certainly coping it this year with snow. To far away but they are saying that the Cyclone that was a cat 5 (the largest) when it crossed the land is now a cat 2 and will travel at least 600miles inland. reports coming in that 90% of buildings have major damage at ground zero but at least no reported deaths at this stage Kerry > Looks like about the same size as the snow storm hitting the mid-west and > NE right now :-) > You guys expecting any rain in Lithgow from this? > Curt From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Wed Feb 2 15:40:17 2011 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:40:17 +1100 Subject: [SEL] OT. Allis Chalmers Tractor Age Message-ID: <83AF70F21E454AC8AFF2520D205E7128@BrianPC> OT. Allis Chalmers Tractor Age Can any list member help me to find out the age of my fathers B model tractor ,No. 3574 or direct me to a site that may help. My Dad bought the Allis in 1956, after his Death in 1971 the tractor went in to storage until my son David managed to buy it back in 2006 along with some of his Engines. 1956 photo show my Dad & Allis, Tractor is in still original condition. Brian Watts Melbourne Australia (03)97266147 http://www.youtube.com/user/brianvwatts From George_Best at adp.com Wed Feb 2 15:58:07 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:58:07 -0600 Subject: [SEL] OT. Allis Chalmers Tractor Age In-Reply-To: <83AF70F21E454AC8AFF2520D205E7128@BrianPC> References: <83AF70F21E454AC8AFF2520D205E7128@BrianPC> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4E21A644@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> 1939 -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Brian Watts Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 3:40 PM To: Staqtionary Engine List; Stationary Engine List Subject: [SEL] OT. Allis Chalmers Tractor Age OT. Allis Chalmers Tractor Age Can any list member help me to find out the age of my fathers B model tractor ,No. 3574 or direct me to a site that may help. My Dad bought the Allis in 1956, after his Death in 1971 the tractor went in to storage until my son David managed to buy it back in 2006 along with some of his Engines. 1956 photo show my Dad & Allis, Tractor is in still original condition. Brian Watts Melbourne Australia (03)97266147 http://www.youtube.com/user/brianvwatts This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From frappi at wcoil.com Wed Feb 2 15:59:35 2011 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 18:59:35 -0500 Subject: [SEL] QLD Tropical Cyclone Warning: Cape Melville to Sarina & Inland In-Reply-To: <87979BACC21C4EE79EA97CB3F311E737@KerryPC> References: <000301cbc1f5$6f7a85c0$4e6f9140$@net.au> <7AA12BAB3E774FC3BB8D7636550E1166@KerryPC> <87979BACC21C4EE79EA97CB3F311E737@KerryPC> Message-ID: <20110202235932.CEB3A9543@smtp.wcoil.com> I sure am glad we only have to cope with tornados and snow storms in this region. Not the wide spread devastation of a hurricane or cyclone. Bad as a snow storm is it does not tear everything up and spread it to the four corners of the world and drown you in the process. I'll take the snow storms. Mark At 05:33 PM 2/2/2011, you wrote: >G'Day Curt >Seen the new snow storm on TV, the USA are certainly coping it this year >with snow. > >To far away but they are saying that the Cyclone that was a cat 5 (the >largest) when it crossed the land is now a cat 2 and will travel at least >600miles inland. >reports coming in that 90% of buildings have major damage at ground zero but >at least no reported deaths at this stage > >Kerry > > > Looks like about the same size as the snow storm hitting the mid-west and > > NE right now :-) > > You guys expecting any rain in Lithgow from this? > > Curt Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From George_Best at adp.com Wed Feb 2 15:58:43 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:58:43 -0600 Subject: [SEL] OT. Allis Chalmers Tractor Age In-Reply-To: <83AF70F21E454AC8AFF2520D205E7128@BrianPC> References: <83AF70F21E454AC8AFF2520D205E7128@BrianPC> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4E21A649@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Oops! I meant 1938. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Brian Watts Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 3:40 PM To: Staqtionary Engine List; Stationary Engine List Subject: [SEL] OT. Allis Chalmers Tractor Age OT. Allis Chalmers Tractor Age Can any list member help me to find out the age of my fathers B model tractor ,No. 3574 or direct me to a site that may help. My Dad bought the Allis in 1956, after his Death in 1971 the tractor went in to storage until my son David managed to buy it back in 2006 along with some of his Engines. 1956 photo show my Dad & Allis, Tractor is in still original condition. 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From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Feb 3 03:38:23 2011 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 22:38:23 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Austin generator help please Message-ID: <9E96C532AC3941B096E117E4D849635D@PeterPC> Hi All Click on link below, can anyone shed some light on the little Austin generator set, the generator is being restore at the moment. http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/austin/index.htm Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Australia From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu Feb 3 12:48:57 2011 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:48:57 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Warning, Linseed oil Luck In-Reply-To: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> Message-ID: The subject of using Boiled Linseed Oil for a protection finish has been talked about before. Yesterday afternoon I oiled an engine transporter in the shed and later used a rag to wipe of excess Linseed, looked good and as it to hot in the shed that was it. About 11.50 last night the wife woke me to tell me she could smell something burning both at the back and front of the house, when the brain got into gear I tought THE RAG and rushed to the shed. The air outside was full of burning paint smell and opening the shed door the shed was totally full of smelly smoke, the rag was smoldering and the wooden bench top was to hot to touch, several inches away on the bench was a 4 liter plastic bottle of turps. The luck part, The wife was still up reading and had windows opened because of the heat, the breeze carried the smell into the house, I found the rag before it ignited and exploded the plastic bottle of turps. I would have lost the shed and machinery. I knew that on the bottle is "Safety Directions : Soak rags in water after use to prevent spontaneous combustion" but had forgotten that bit and must have just put the rag on the bench when finished. one very lucky day. Kerry Kerry Morris Lithgow NSW Oz www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/ From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Feb 3 13:41:32 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 16:41:32 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Warning, Linseed oil Luck In-Reply-To: References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> Message-ID: G'day Kerry, WOW!! Lucky indeed. I've read those warnings too and have been really good about spreading my rags outside to dry. But I've always wondered what would happen. I'm gonna have to conduct an experiment. What did it take; about six hours? See ya, Arnie PS - I think you need to buy a new engine to compensate for the ones you nearly lost. 8-)) On Thu, February 3, 2011 3:48 pm, Kerry wrote: > The subject of using Boiled Linseed Oil for a protection finish has been > talked about before. > Yesterday afternoon I oiled an engine transporter in the shed and later used > a rag to wipe of excess Linseed, looked good and as it to hot in the shed > that was it. > About 11.50 last night the wife woke me to tell me she could smell something > burning both at the back and front of the house, when the brain got into > gear I tought THE RAG and rushed to the shed. > The air outside was full of burning paint smell and opening the shed door > the shed was totally full of smelly smoke, the rag was smoldering and the > wooden bench top was to hot to touch, several inches away on the bench was a > 4 liter plastic bottle of turps. > The luck part, The wife was still up reading and had windows opened because > of the heat, the breeze carried the smell into the house, I found the rag > before it ignited and exploded the plastic bottle of turps. I would have > lost the shed and machinery. > I knew that on the bottle is "Safety Directions : Soak rags in water after > use to prevent spontaneous combustion" but had forgotten that bit and must > have just put the rag on the bench when finished. > one very lucky day. From russell at ncable.com.au Thu Feb 3 13:54:49 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:54:49 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Warning, Linseed oil Luck In-Reply-To: References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> Message-ID: <8467060E-0C85-4FBB-A386-BE3D5BF570B3@ncable.com.au> Very Lucky Kerry ...... So what are you working on? Arnie you forgot about one thing with your experiment! You need warmth my dear man, it's bloody way to cold at Pitburg to have a experiment in your shed. PS: Good luck with the football On 04/02/2011, at 8:41 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > G'day Kerry, > > WOW!! Lucky indeed. I've read those warnings too and have been really good about > spreading my rags outside to dry. But I've always wondered what would happen. I'm > gonna have to conduct an experiment. What did it take; about six hours? > > See ya, Arnie > > PS - I think you need to buy a new engine to compensate for the ones you nearly > lost. 8-)) > > On Thu, February 3, 2011 3:48 pm, Kerry wrote: >> The subject of using Boiled Linseed Oil for a protection finish has been >> talked about before. >> Yesterday afternoon I oiled an engine transporter in the shed and later used >> a rag to wipe of excess Linseed, looked good and as it to hot in the shed >> that was it. >> About 11.50 last night the wife woke me to tell me she could smell something >> burning both at the back and front of the house, when the brain got into >> gear I tought THE RAG and rushed to the shed. >> The air outside was full of burning paint smell and opening the shed door >> the shed was totally full of smelly smoke, the rag was smoldering and the >> wooden bench top was to hot to touch, several inches away on the bench was a >> 4 liter plastic bottle of turps. >> The luck part, The wife was still up reading and had windows opened because >> of the heat, the breeze carried the smell into the house, I found the rag >> before it ignited and exploded the plastic bottle of turps. I would have >> lost the shed and machinery. >> I knew that on the bottle is "Safety Directions : Soak rags in water after >> use to prevent spontaneous combustion" but had forgotten that bit and must >> have just put the rag on the bench when finished. >> one very lucky day. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Feb 3 15:05:15 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 18:05:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Warning, Linseed oil Luck In-Reply-To: <8467060E-0C85-4FBB-A386-BE3D5BF570B3@ncable.com.au> References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> <8467060E-0C85-4FBB-A386-BE3D5BF570B3@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <4343b2837c2edbdd73b1003e109c1c21.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Thanks mate!! GO STEELERS!! And you're right about the shed. It's too bloody cold to even go out there, let alone conduct any experiments!! On Thu, February 3, 2011 4:54 pm, Russell wrote: > Very Lucky Kerry ...... So what are you working on? > Arnie you forgot about one thing with your experiment! You need warmth my dear man, > it's bloody way to cold at Pitburg to have a experiment in your shed. > > PS: Good luck with the football From rotigel at me.com Thu Feb 3 15:03:21 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:03:21 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Warning, Linseed oil Luck In-Reply-To: <8467060E-0C85-4FBB-A386-BE3D5BF570B3@ncable.com.au> References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> <8467060E-0C85-4FBB-A386-BE3D5BF570B3@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <453A61BE-9505-445C-955B-C407DAA5A5C3@me.com> Thank you Russ, but we don't need "luck." If Big Ben does not rape anyone between now and Sunday WE WIN! Dave PS, Keep in mine (as with OJ) you CAN NOT convict a GREAT US football player of minor crimes! On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Russell wrote: > > PS: Good luck with the football From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Feb 3 15:57:03 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:57:03 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Warning, Linseed oil Luck In-Reply-To: <8467060E-0C85-4FBB-A386-BE3D5BF570B3@ncable.com.au> References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> <8467060E-0C85-4FBB-A386-BE3D5BF570B3@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <18CD8A08-24FC-4003-96C8-E457EE3BF63E@rustyiron.com> On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Russell wrote: > You need warmth my dear man, it's bloody way to cold at Pitburg to have a experiment in your shed. Arnie's plan is to oil himself up with linseed just to keep himself warm. I'll bet Kerry's engine is a darn sight prettier when covered in oil. From rotigel at me.com Thu Feb 3 16:49:16 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:49:16 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austin generator help please In-Reply-To: <9E96C532AC3941B096E117E4D849635D@PeterPC> References: <9E96C532AC3941B096E117E4D849635D@PeterPC> Message-ID: <1259FE3D-E5D9-490C-8CBA-DC79B4355DAA@me.com> Hi Peter, I think you need to put the two parts together before you will get any light. Dave PS, Arnie told me to say that! On Feb 3, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Peter Lowe wrote: > Hi All > > Click on link below, can anyone shed some light on the little Austin > generator set, the generator is being restore at the moment. > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/austin/index.htm > > > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > Australia > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Feb 3 17:47:12 2011 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:47:12 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Austin generator help please In-Reply-To: <1259FE3D-E5D9-490C-8CBA-DC79B4355DAA@me.com> References: <9E96C532AC3941B096E117E4D849635D@PeterPC> <1259FE3D-E5D9-490C-8CBA-DC79B4355DAA@me.com> Message-ID: Good to see you are still alive and kicking Dave, you do not need Arnie to pull your chain ;-)))) Peter Hi Peter, I think you need to put the two parts together before you will get any light. Dave PS, Arnie told me to say that! On Feb 3, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Peter Lowe wrote: > Hi All > > Click on link below, can anyone shed some light on the little Austin > generator set, the generator is being restore at the moment. > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/austin/index.htm > > > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > Australia > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mike17257 at gmail.com Fri Feb 4 01:15:30 2011 From: mike17257 at gmail.com (michael young) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 20:15:30 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Warning, Linseed oil Luck In-Reply-To: References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> Message-ID: Kerry, phew that was close! I hope you thanked your wife - roses, chocolates, be nice for a whole month - what ever it takes. etc. etc. I often have those nagging doubts when I'm back in the house. Y'know when you've been welding or whatever - is there something smoking away ready to go poof??!! So I trundle up the back at 11:00 or whenever to check it out. Michael On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Kerry wrote: > The subject of using Boiled Linseed Oil for a protection finish has been > talked about before. > Yesterday afternoon I oiled an engine transporter in the shed and later > used > a rag to wipe of excess Linseed, looked good and as it to hot in the shed > that was it. > About 11.50 last night the wife woke me to tell me she could smell > something > burning both at the back and front of the house, when the brain got into > gear I tought THE RAG and rushed to the shed. > The air outside was full of burning paint smell and opening the shed door > the shed was totally full of smelly smoke, the rag was smoldering and the > wooden bench top was to hot to touch, several inches away on the bench was > a > 4 liter plastic bottle of turps. > The luck part, The wife was still up reading and had windows opened because > of the heat, the breeze carried the smell into the house, I found the rag > before it ignited and exploded the plastic bottle of turps. I would have > lost the shed and machinery. > I knew that on the bottle is "Safety Directions : Soak rags in water after > use to prevent spontaneous combustion" but had forgotten that bit and must > have just put the rag on the bench when finished. > one very lucky day. > > Kerry > > Kerry Morris > Lithgow NSW Oz > www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/ > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Feb 4 06:23:08 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 09:23:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Warning, Linseed oil Luck In-Reply-To: References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> Message-ID: <4312c4eb8c682c46edb063f5246b6db6.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Kerry, Michael makes an EXCELLENT point here!! Do it!! In fact, do all four!! 8-)) See ya, Arnie On Fri, February 4, 2011 4:15 am, michael young wrote: > > phew that was close! I hope you thanked your wife - roses, chocolates, be > nice for a whole month - what ever it takes. etc. etc. I often have those > nagging doubts when I'm back in the house. Y'know when you've been welding > or whatever - is there something smoking away ready to go poof??!! So I > trundle up the back at 11:00 or whenever to check it out. > > Michael From jlb94 at juno.com Fri Feb 4 07:06:55 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:06:55 GMT Subject: [SEL] Pull your chain ? OT Message-ID: <20110204.100655.4925.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> Hi list - In reading this thread I saw the term, "Pull your chain". Who knows where the term "Pull Your Chain - or - Pull My Chain, came from ? Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "If Dog is man's best friend - (_o_) Man has betrayed his friend." ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] Austin generator help please Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:47:12 +1100 Good to see you are still alive and kicking Dave, you do not need Arnie to pull your chain ;-)))) Peter Hi Peter, I think you need to put the two parts together before you will get any light. Dave PS, Arnie told me to say that! On Feb 3, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Peter Lowe wrote: > Hi All > > Click on link below, can anyone shed some light on the little Austin > generator set, the generator is being restore at the moment. > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/austin/index.htm > > > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > Australia > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ When Banks Compete, You Win! Refi & lower payments today: $400,000 for only $1,687/mo. No SSN required. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d4c1649e90141ea91fst02vuc From kgarcia at rustyiron.com Fri Feb 4 07:13:01 2011 From: kgarcia at rustyiron.com (Kelley Garcia) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:13:01 -0800 Subject: [SEL] new toy Message-ID: hi all, Rob and I have a new addition. To see her in action, go here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCrgTDWPENY hope you enjoy. ******** See ya, Kelley From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Feb 4 08:02:04 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:02:04 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Pull your chain ? OT In-Reply-To: <20110204.100655.4925.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110204.100655.4925.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Here's one... Meaning: To take advantage of someone in an unfair way to do something to annoy someone; to tease or needle someone just to get a reaction from them. Origin: This North American slang originated in the 1980s as an expression for someone who is trying to annoy or get a reaction from someone else. Feisty, formidable Charlotte Whitton, the former mayor of Ottawa, was introduced to the mayor of London, England. He was bedecked in all the medals and chains of his office, while she had only a flower in her lapel. "There was something fitting, about this, wasn?t there," the London mayor asked. "After all, what was Ottawa, a city of 600,000, compared to London, twelve million?" He leaned forward and said most haughtily, ?If I sniff your rose, will you blush?? Charlotte replied, ?And if I pull your chain, will you flush?? On Fri, February 4, 2011 10:06 am, jlb94 at juno.com wrote: > Hi list - > In reading this thread I saw the term, "Pull your chain". > Who knows where the term "Pull Your Chain - or - Pull My Chain, came from ? From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Feb 4 13:45:00 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 08:45:00 +1100 Subject: [SEL] new toy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45A9D166-8400-48DA-98A8-B38C22B1FD2C@ncable.com.au> Kelly some great video work there. Very nice engine thats for sure. So question then; how does it all fit in the cave? It's gonna have to live on the trailer? PS: btw how hard was it for Rob to leave the Campbell in the cave and not the garage? Cheers Russell On 05/02/2011, at 2:13 AM, Kelley Garcia wrote: > hi all, > Rob and I have a new addition. To see her in action, go here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCrgTDWPENY > > hope you enjoy. > > ******** > See ya, > Kelley > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Feb 4 14:23:00 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 09:23:00 +1100 Subject: [SEL] a little on the wet side In-Reply-To: References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> Message-ID: <09DB8125-9333-4B43-9994-977E9DC8DE81@ncable.com.au> A little bit wet here yesterday and the outlook is worse for today:http://www.milduraindependent.com/news/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2268%3Astorms-hit-red-cliffs-203mm-mildura-111mm-of-rain&catid=1%3Anews&Itemid=2 Had 4 inches here in just under 2 hours. Have had another 2 inches over night (9pm to 9am). Not bad if you think our average anual rain fall for this area is 10inches for twelve months! Who would have thought that the local SES would be setting up an evacuation centre in Mildura for a rain event! Just checked my sheds and all the engines are nice and dry :-) Russell From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Fri Feb 4 14:51:23 2011 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:51:23 -0700 Subject: [SEL] a little on the wet side In-Reply-To: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> <09DB8125-9333-4B43-9994-977E9DC8DE81@ncable.com.au> References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> <09DB8125-9333-4B43-9994-977E9DC8DE81@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Wow...someone's gotta pull the plug!! First thing that came to mind, Russell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSz6X5NMXnM Good Luck!! RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 3:23 PM Subject: [SEL] a little on the wet side > A little bit wet here yesterday and the outlook is worse for > today:http://www.milduraindependent.com/news/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2268%3Astorms-hit-red-cliffs-203mm-mildura-111mm-of-rain&catid=1%3Anews&Itemid=2 > > Had 4 inches here in just under 2 hours. Have had another 2 inches over > night (9pm to 9am). Not bad if you think our average anual rain fall for > this area is 10inches for twelve months! Who would have thought that the > local SES would be setting up an evacuation centre in Mildura for a rain > event! Just checked my sheds and all the engines are nice and dry :-) > Russell > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Feb 4 15:01:32 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:01:32 +1100 Subject: [SEL] a little on the wet side In-Reply-To: References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> <09DB8125-9333-4B43-9994-977E9DC8DE81@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Nice Utube Touch there Rick On 05/02/2011, at 9:51 AM, Richard Strobel wrote: > Wow...someone's gotta pull the plug!! > First thing that came to mind, Russell > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSz6X5NMXnM > > > Good Luck!! > RickinMt. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Russell" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 3:23 PM > Subject: [SEL] a little on the wet side > > >> A little bit wet here yesterday and the outlook is worse for >> today:http://www.milduraindependent.com/news/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2268%3Astorms-hit-red-cliffs-203mm-mildura-111mm-of-rain&catid=1%3Anews&Itemid=2 >> >> Had 4 inches here in just under 2 hours. Have had another 2 inches over >> night (9pm to 9am). Not bad if you think our average anual rain fall for >> this area is 10inches for twelve months! Who would have thought that the >> local SES would be setting up an evacuation centre in Mildura for a rain >> event! Just checked my sheds and all the engines are nice and dry :-) >> Russell >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Fri Feb 4 15:25:25 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:25:25 +1100 Subject: [SEL] a little on the wet side In-Reply-To: <09DB8125-9333-4B43-9994-977E9DC8DE81@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: The weather is nuts everywhere at the moment. We are heading for the hottest week ever recorded in Sydney. I thought we might not make it but it is already 35c (95f) here near the coast at 10am. Patrick On 5/2/11 9:23 AM, "Russell" wrote: > A little bit wet here yesterday and the outlook is worse for > today:http://www.milduraindependent.com/news/index.php?option=com_content&view > =article&id=2268%3Astorms-hit-red-cliffs-203mm-mildura-111mm-of-rain&catid=1%3 > Anews&Itemid=2 > > Had 4 inches here in just under 2 hours. Have had another 2 inches over night > (9pm to 9am). Not bad if you think our average anual rain fall for this area > is 10inches for twelve months! Who would have thought that the local SES would > be setting up an evacuation centre in Mildura for a rain event! Just checked > my sheds and all the engines are nice and dry :-) > Russell > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From kgarcia at rustyiron.com Fri Feb 4 18:01:27 2011 From: kgarcia at rustyiron.com (Kelley Garcia) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 18:01:27 -0800 Subject: [SEL] new toy In-Reply-To: <45A9D166-8400-48DA-98A8-B38C22B1FD2C@ncable.com.au> References: <45A9D166-8400-48DA-98A8-B38C22B1FD2C@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: hi Russell, yep, it lives on the trailer in the engine cave for right now. That's OK tho' since she'll be going to most of the shows anyway. as for Rob and the Campbell, Rob's got a new mistress now and can't be bothered with that tired old hunk ;-) ******** See ya, Kelley On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:45 PM, Russell wrote: > Kelly some great video work there. Very nice engine thats for sure. So question then; how does it all fit in the cave? It's gonna have to live on the trailer? > PS: btw how hard was it for Rob to leave the Campbell in the cave and not the garage? > > Cheers Russell > > > > On 05/02/2011, at 2:13 AM, Kelley Garcia wrote: > >> hi all, >> Rob and I have a new addition. To see her in action, go here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCrgTDWPENY >> >> hope you enjoy. >> >> ******** >> See ya, >> Kelley >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From r7734g at hotmail.com Fri Feb 4 18:29:40 2011 From: r7734g at hotmail.com (Ron Gerlach) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 18:29:40 -0800 Subject: [SEL] new toy In-Reply-To: References: , <45A9D166-8400-48DA-98A8-B38C22B1FD2C@ncable.com.au>, Message-ID: Kelley Thanks for the video. It was a joy seeing that beast running. I never cease to be amazed at the quality of the engines in your and Rob's collection. Keep the videos coming. RonG > From: kgarcia at rustyiron.com > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 18:01:27 -0800 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] new toy > > hi Russell, > yep, it lives on the trailer in the engine cave for right now. That's OK tho' since she'll be going to most of the shows anyway. > > as for Rob and the Campbell, Rob's got a new mistress now and can't be bothered with that tired old hunk ;-) > > ******** > See ya, > Kelley > > On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:45 PM, Russell wrote: > > > Kelly some great video work there. Very nice engine thats for sure. So question then; how does it all fit in the cave? It's gonna have to live on the trailer? > > PS: btw how hard was it for Rob to leave the Campbell in the cave and not the garage? > > > > Cheers Russell > > > > > > > > On 05/02/2011, at 2:13 AM, Kelley Garcia wrote: > > > >> hi all, > >> Rob and I have a new addition. To see her in action, go here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCrgTDWPENY > >> > >> hope you enjoy. > >> > >> ******** > >> See ya, > >> Kelley > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Feb 4 18:50:13 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 18:50:13 -0800 Subject: [SEL] new toy In-Reply-To: <45A9D166-8400-48DA-98A8-B38C22B1FD2C@ncable.com.au> References: <45A9D166-8400-48DA-98A8-B38C22B1FD2C@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <29923679-F16C-4AAF-AA6D-F67A253B0F22@rustyiron.com> On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:45 PM, Russell wrote: > Kelly some great video work there. Yeah, that girl is becoming quite the talented videographer. > PS: btw how hard was it for Rob to leave the Campbell in the cave and not the garage? Psh... just another one o' them bum crack motors. It seems everyone down under has one... some folks have two. From russell at ncable.com.au Sat Feb 5 02:10:22 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 21:10:22 +1100 Subject: [SEL] new toy In-Reply-To: References: <45A9D166-8400-48DA-98A8-B38C22B1FD2C@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <1A05A169-09C2-4D82-B6EB-5E0132E5FD9F@ncable.com.au> Well send it back where it came from Kelly, Where it will be properly treasured. On 05/02/2011, at 1:01 PM, Kelley Garcia wrote: > hi Russell, > yep, it lives on the trailer in the engine cave for right now. That's OK tho' since she'll be going to most of the shows anyway. > > as for Rob and the Campbell, Rob's got a new mistress now and can't be bothered with that tired old hunk ;-) > > ******** > See ya, > Kelley > > On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:45 PM, Russell wrote: > >> Kelly some great video work there. Very nice engine thats for sure. So question then; how does it all fit in the cave? It's gonna have to live on the trailer? >> PS: btw how hard was it for Rob to leave the Campbell in the cave and not the garage? >> >> Cheers Russell >> >> >> >> On 05/02/2011, at 2:13 AM, Kelley Garcia wrote: >> >>> hi all, >>> Rob and I have a new addition. To see her in action, go here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCrgTDWPENY >>> >>> hope you enjoy. >>> >>> ******** >>> See ya, >>> Kelley >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From cgandree at mchsi.com Sat Feb 5 04:58:58 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 06:58:58 -0600 (CST) Subject: [SEL] new toy In-Reply-To: <1542020825.8616831296910698177.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <213750855.8616851296910738793.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Hi Kelley, Very nice engine. Will you and Rob be bringing her to Baraboo. Sure would be wonderful additon for the folks to look at! Thanks for sharing, Curt Andree ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelley Garcia" To: "SEL email discussion list" , "Stationary-Engine" Sent: Friday, February 4, 2011 9:13:01 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [SEL] new toy hi all, Rob and I have a new addition. To see her in action, go here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCrgTDWPENY hope you enjoy. ******** See ya, Kelley _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From cgandree at mchsi.com Sat Feb 5 05:09:51 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 07:09:51 -0600 (CST) Subject: [SEL] Fwd: [AT] OT 1913 Harley In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1042246134.8617481296911391627.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Hey, After seeing this very rare vintage cycle reminds of an old coot I know that has a similiar one in the back of his shed. Soon as the snow melts will be paying him a visit. Who knows it may be the same bike and could be bought. thanks for sharing! Curt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" , slick at toltbbs.com Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2011 2:25:26 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [SEL] Fwd: [AT] OT 1913 Harley > > >> I figured some of you riding out the snow and ice would enjoy >> watching this. >> >> >> http://www.fark.com/cgi/vidplayer.pl?IDLink=5734912 >> >> Charlie _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Sat Feb 5 11:05:33 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 14:05:33 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Moving a Barn.....The Nebraska way!!! References: <725471.15651.qm@web161611.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <97EDCE44-F1C9-4A38-B30D-BCF92CD7789A@me.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > Very Interesting to say the least. > > > > > > > > Those Nebraskans > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From jlb94 at juno.com Sat Feb 5 12:19:32 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 20:19:32 GMT Subject: [SEL] Pull your chain ? OT Message-ID: <20110205.151932.644.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> Thanks Arnie for the reply. But - The way I got it was from an old coal miner. They used to have a "Potty Car" in the coal mines similar to a "half-height Porta-John" where the miners could stand and pee or sit and do their business. Now understand that rail tracks are not level in the coal mines and the miners would carry a small length of chain which they laid on the track to stop the "Potty-Car" from rolling away as they did their business. Now - To be a jerk, somone would pull out the chain and his "buddy" would be rolling down the slope of the coal mine. And that's the rest of the story ! Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "If Dog is man's best friend - (_o_) Man has betrayed his friend." ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Arnie Fero" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] Pull your chain ? OT Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:02:04 -0500 Here's one... Meaning: To take advantage of someone in an unfair way to do something to annoy someone; to tease or needle someone just to get a reaction from them. Origin: This North American slang originated in the 1980s as an expression for someone who is trying to annoy or get a reaction from someone else. Feisty, formidable Charlotte Whitton, the former mayor of Ottawa, was introduced to the mayor of London, England. He was bedecked in all the medals and chains of his office, while she had only a flower in her lapel. "There was something fitting, about this, wasn?t there," the London mayor asked. "After all, what was Ottawa, a city of 600,000, compared to London, twelve million?" He leaned forward and said most haughtily, ?If I sniff your rose, will you blush?? Charlotte replied, ?And if I pull your chain, will you flush?? On Fri, February 4, 2011 10:06 am, jlb94 at juno.com wrote: > Hi list - > In reading this thread I saw the term, "Pull your chain". > Who knows where the term "Pull Your Chain - or - Pull My Chain, came from ? _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ $65/Hr Job - 25 Openings Part-Time job ($20-$65/hr). Requirements: Home Internet Access http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d4db12a4844110c08cst04vuc From George_Best at adp.com Mon Feb 7 09:06:58 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 11:06:58 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Warning, Linseed oil Luck In-Reply-To: References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4E465575@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Kerry, You were lucky! It's a good reminder for all of us and you can be sure I won't be leaving linseed oil soaked rags near anything combustible. You need to buy Ruth something nice as a reward for saving your shed from going up in flames! George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:49 PM To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Warning, Linseed oil Luck The subject of using Boiled Linseed Oil for a protection finish has been talked about before. Yesterday afternoon I oiled an engine transporter in the shed and later used a rag to wipe of excess Linseed, looked good and as it to hot in the shed that was it. About 11.50 last night the wife woke me to tell me she could smell something burning both at the back and front of the house, when the brain got into gear I tought THE RAG and rushed to the shed. The air outside was full of burning paint smell and opening the shed door the shed was totally full of smelly smoke, the rag was smoldering and the wooden bench top was too hot to touch, several inches away on the bench was a 4 liter plastic bottle of turps. The luck part, The wife was still up reading and had windows opened because of the heat, the breeze carried the smell into the house, I found the rag before it ignited and exploded the plastic bottle of turps. I would have lost the shed and machinery. I knew that on the bottle is "Safety Directions : Soak rags in water after use to prevent spontaneous combustion" but had forgotten that bit and must have just put the rag on the bench when finished. one very lucky day. Kerry Kerry Morris Lithgow NSW Oz www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Feb 7 09:25:00 2011 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 12:25:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Old Iron Man Passing In-Reply-To: <97EDCE44-F1C9-4A38-B30D-BCF92CD7789A@me.com> References: <725471.15651.qm@web161611.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <97EDCE44-F1C9-4A38-B30D-BCF92CD7789A@me.com> Message-ID: <20110207172455.0654F950B@smtp.wcoil.com> Although not a member of the engine list groups his passing should be noted, Steven Fischbach, 53, of Bluffton, died at 5:23 a.m. Sunday at Blanchard Valley Hospital. Arrangements are pending at Chiles-Laman Funeral Home, Bluffton. In leu of flowers memorials to the childrens education fund is requested. Steve was one of the Findlay shows long time behind the scenes workers. He was a dedicated husband to his sweetheart and wife Jacqueline and their three girls the oldest in her first year of College. Although Steve was a FATG he was one of the few that could take it all into the greater picture. He is missed. Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 USA 419.358.5206 From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 13:18:29 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:18:29 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Drawbar/Turntable Trailer Message-ID: A few of you may remember our questions regarding the brakes that we were going to use on the new trailer/RV that we are building. Well things have moved along a tad, we expect to start welding the 6.5 metre (21ft) step-frame chassis next week. Since last year-end we have got together all the bits and pieces that we need, 3 axles, 3.5ton coupling, wheels/tyres and so on. 3 sheets of 21mm (13/16") honeycomb sandwich was collected a few weeks ago for the floor and internal divider, heavy-duty checker plate for where the engine trolley sits and so on. We bought a damaged caravan last weekend to we can break it for the bits we need, shower, cooker/fridge etc etc. Tonight we collected a couple of hundredweight (1cwt = 112lbs) of new 304 and 316 stainless blanks for the front pivot pin and bearing support. Our little 5" lathe would probably baulk at that, especially in 6.75 diameter bar slices, but we were pleasantly surprised at how well it coped. We used a carbide tool, DCMT replaceable tip type, and some high-sulphur (sulfur) cutting oil for when we had to put a 20mm drill through the final 14mm thick blank. We had a fair bit of waste as the slice was 'wonky', but all in all we were pretty please. Pictures of tonight's activities are here: This is the next largest piece, this is for the safety retaining cap on top of the pivot pin. This is 304 stainless and 5.75" diameter. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer29.jpg The interrupted cutting didn't cause any problems, we had a used tip in the holder and it went well. The degree of out of true can be seen in the next two pictures as we gradually bring the face true. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer30.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer33.jpg The tool holder is only 10mm square and the tip is small, pictures following show the tool and tip. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer31.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer32.jpg Eventually it got to the point where we had only a small area left. and then it was gone. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer34.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer35.jpg Turned it over and started on the other side.... http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer36.jpg Had to put a 20mm hole in the centre, which was a bit scary, but a new 10mm pilot (after centre drilling) went through fine, we had some high-sulphur cutting oil to use and it certainly did the job. Even the 20mm drill went through with nice swarf coming out as we drilled. No trouble at all. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer37.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer38.jpg Then we put a bit of M20 studding into the 3-jaw chuck with a nut to hold it behind the jaws, and put the disc on to face the rim. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer39.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer40.jpg I'm going to have a go at one of the larger pieces tomorrow, now that I know the lathe and tooling can cope. Speed was the slowest it would go down to without engaging back gear, it is a 5" centre height Raglan Littlejohn lathe. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rotigel at me.com Thu Feb 10 15:01:52 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:01:52 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Drawbar/Turntable Trailer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39CB1D00-CDD4-43F8-A827-717DA55B92A2@me.com> Well documented Peter! Looking forward to more reports/pictures as progress continues! Dave On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:18 PM, Listerdiesel wrote: > A few of you may remember our questions regarding the brakes that we > were going to use on the new trailer/RV that we are building. > > Well things have moved along a tad, we expect to start welding the 6.5 > metre (21ft) step-frame chassis next week. > > Since last year-end we have got together all the bits and pieces that > we need, 3 axles, 3.5ton coupling, wheels/tyres and so on. > > 3 sheets of 21mm (13/16") honeycomb sandwich was collected a few weeks > ago for the floor and internal divider, heavy-duty checker plate for > where the engine trolley sits and so on. > > We bought a damaged caravan last weekend to we can break it for the > bits we need, shower, cooker/fridge etc etc. > > Tonight we collected a couple of hundredweight (1cwt = 112lbs) of new > 304 and 316 stainless blanks for the front pivot pin and bearing > support. > > Our little 5" lathe would probably baulk at that, especially in 6.75 > diameter bar slices, but we were pleasantly surprised at how well it > coped. We used a carbide tool, DCMT replaceable tip type, and some > high-sulphur (sulfur) cutting oil for when we had to put a 20mm drill > through the final 14mm thick blank. We had a fair bit of waste as the > slice was 'wonky', but all in all we were pretty please. > > Pictures of tonight's activities are here: > > This is the next largest piece, this is for the safety retaining cap > on top of the pivot pin. This is 304 stainless and 5.75" diameter. > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer29.jpg > > The interrupted cutting didn't cause any problems, we had a used tip > in the holder and it went well. The degree of out of true can be seen > in the next two pictures as we gradually bring the face true. > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer30.jpg > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer33.jpg > > The tool holder is only 10mm square and the tip is small, pictures > following show the tool and tip. > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer31.jpg > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer32.jpg > > Eventually it got to the point where we had only a small area left. > and then it was gone. > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer34.jpg > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer35.jpg > > Turned it over and started on the other side.... > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer36.jpg > > Had to put a 20mm hole in the centre, which was a bit scary, but a new > 10mm pilot (after centre drilling) went through fine, we had some > high-sulphur cutting oil to use and it certainly did the job. Even the > 20mm drill went through with nice swarf coming out as we drilled. No > trouble at all. > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer37.jpg > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer38.jpg > > Then we put a bit of M20 studding into the 3-jaw chuck with a nut to > hold it behind the jaws, and put the disc on to face the rim. > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer39.jpg > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer40.jpg > > I'm going to have a go at one of the larger pieces tomorrow, now that > I know the lathe and tooling can cope. Speed was the slowest it would > go down to without engaging back gear, it is a 5" centre height Raglan > Littlejohn lathe. > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Feb 10 15:26:04 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:26:04 EST Subject: [SEL] Drawbar/Turntable Trailer Message-ID: <680fa.4d8b9ee2.3a85ce0c@aol.com> In a message dated 2/10/2011 4:29:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, listerdiesel at gmail.com writes: http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer40.jpg Peter, That is putting the 5 inch lathe thru a good work out. The carbide tooling and good cutting oil sure helps the situation. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 00:25:33 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:25:33 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Drawbar/Turntable Trailer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10 February 2011 21:18, Listerdiesel wrote: > A few of you may remember our questions regarding the brakes that we > were going to use on the new trailer/RV that we are building. > > Well things have moved along a tad, we expect to start welding the 6.5 > metre (21ft) step-frame chassis next week. Here are the previous images with a brief description: New 3.5ton coupling http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer1.jpg Heavy box sections for the trailer front axle pivot, 250 X 100 X 10mm wall http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer2.jpg New 2.75kVA genny http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer3.jpg Refillable LPG cylinder, takes Autogas at regular filling stations, 28.8 litres net http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer4.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer5.jpg Main thrust bearing for the steering pivot, 75mm ID http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer8.jpg Honeycom sandwich sheets for the floor and internal divider, 3.5metre X 2.2metre http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer10.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer11.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer12.jpg Heavy checker plate for the engine trolley to stand on inside, nicely packaged http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer14.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer13.jpg Chassis end of the main steering pivot with one of the two radial bearings http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer15.jpg Looking inside the box section, those bolts are 3/4" UNF http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer16.jpg Both radial thrust bearings loosely assembled to the upper box section http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer17.jpg Upper box section, it is 400mm or 16" long http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer20.jpg Lower box section which forms part of the front axle support. The stainless disc I was turning last evening bolts onto the bottom of this part when finished. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer21.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer20.jpg Section of the drawing for the axle pivot http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer22.jpg Laser-cut stiffeners for the step in the chassis frame, they are 4mm steel http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer23.jpg Laser-cut drawbar hing plates http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer24.jpg Laser-cut gussets, those with holes in carry the engine lashing eyes http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer25.jpg Body support brackets, 40 pces http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer26.jpg M30 X 200 A2 stainless bolts, before being chopped to make the drawbar pivots http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer27.jpg Pivot bolts, waiting for the big 'R' clips so I can get them drilled to size. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer28.jpg That's all for now and brings it up to date as far as pictures go. Here is a pdf file with the main drawing, as of January: http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DRAWBAR1_Model_2.pdf Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jlb94 at juno.com Fri Feb 11 07:08:34 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:08:34 GMT Subject: [SEL] Drawbar/Turntable Trailer Message-ID: <20110211.100834.27655.0@webmail16.vgs.untd.com> Hi Peter, Nice explanation of what you're doing and great pics. Thanks Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "If Dog is man's best friend - (_o_) Man has betrayed his friend." ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Listerdiesel To: The SEL email discussion list Cc: Stationary-Engine Subject: [SEL] Drawbar/Turntable Trailer Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:18:29 +0000 A few of you may remember our questions regarding the brakes that we were going to use on the new trailer/RV that we are building. Well things have moved along a tad, we expect to start welding the 6.5 metre (21ft) step-frame chassis next week. Since last year-end we have got together all the bits and pieces that we need, 3 axles, 3.5ton coupling, wheels/tyres and so on. 3 sheets of 21mm (13/16") honeycomb sandwich was collected a few weeks ago for the floor and internal divider, heavy-duty checker plate for where the engine trolley sits and so on. We bought a damaged caravan last weekend to we can break it for the bits we need, shower, cooker/fridge etc etc. Tonight we collected a couple of hundredweight (1cwt = 112lbs) of new 304 and 316 stainless blanks for the front pivot pin and bearing support. Our little 5" lathe would probably baulk at that, especially in 6.75 diameter bar slices, but we were pleasantly surprised at how well it coped. We used a carbide tool, DCMT replaceable tip type, and some high-sulphur (sulfur) cutting oil for when we had to put a 20mm drill through the final 14mm thick blank. We had a fair bit of waste as the slice was 'wonky', but all in all we were pretty please. Pictures of tonight's activities are here: This is the next largest piece, this is for the safety retaining cap on top of the pivot pin. This is 304 stainless and 5.75" diameter. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer29.jpg The interrupted cutting didn't cause any problems, we had a used tip in the holder and it went well. The degree of out of true can be seen in the next two pictures as we gradually bring the face true. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer30.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer33.jpg The tool holder is only 10mm square and the tip is small, pictures following show the tool and tip. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer31.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer32.jpg Eventually it got to the point where we had only a small area left. and then it was gone. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer34.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer35.jpg Turned it over and started on the other side.... http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer36.jpg Had to put a 20mm hole in the centre, which was a bit scary, but a new 10mm pilot (after centre drilling) went through fine, we had some high-sulphur cutting oil to use and it certainly did the job. Even the 20mm drill went through with nice swarf coming out as we drilled. No trouble at all. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer37.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer38.jpg Then we put a bit of M20 studding into the 3-jaw chuck with a nut to hold it behind the jaws, and put the disc on to face the rim. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer39.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer40.jpg I'm going to have a go at one of the larger pieces tomorrow, now that I know the lathe and tooling can cope. Speed was the slowest it would go down to without engaging back gear, it is a 5" centre height Raglan Littlejohn lathe. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ $65/Hr Job - 25 Openings Part-Time job ($20-$65/hr). Requirements: Home Internet Access http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d55517dd94ac31c7e2st02vuc From mcanady at lilleyinternational.com Fri Feb 11 09:01:45 2011 From: mcanady at lilleyinternational.com (Merton Canady) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:01:45 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Quiet Message-ID: Is the list still alive? Merton From George_Best at adp.com Fri Feb 11 10:11:56 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:11:56 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Quiet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4E73E9AD@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Barely. Not many postings on a daily basis and the percentage of postings with an engine related topic is getting pretty low. Seems at this point it is just a group of people that share a common interest and occasionally post something engine related. I think most of the engine related messages have pretty well switched to SmokStak. The number of people posting to SEL has dwindled down as well. Around 20 people have posted something on SEL so far this year. Could be a bit higher as I've deleted some email messages, but in any case the number of people actually posting is pretty small compared to the lurkers. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Feb 12 03:20:11 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:20:11 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Stainless Bolts In-Reply-To: <276B3133-D95D-4024-90D9-11884933E17F@adam.com.au> References: <276B3133-D95D-4024-90D9-11884933E17F@adam.com.au> Message-ID: On 11 February 2011 22:53, Basson W D wrote: > Hi Peter > > If you are using stainless bolts in a load bearing way please be advised > that they are not High Tensile and you should check that they are going to > be strong enough for the job!!! > > Cheers for now > > Denis Thanks for the comments everyone, the 30mm diameter bolt shanks are used for the drawbar pivot, 2 of them, and are in shear not in tension. Looking at dynamic loadings we should have 300% or more safety factor. They are just pins now, we chopped the threaded bit off and are using 5mm diameter stainless R clips to hold them in place. There is a 30mm ID steel bush in the front axle frame on both sides to take the pin, each bush is 50mm (2") long with grease nipples. Each pin is prevented from rotating by a welded on block against of the the hexagon flats on the head. We use a lot of stainless fasteners at the factory, in fact we are nearly 100% stainless now and keep M2 up to M12 on the shelf. Regular stainless nuts and spring washers aren't a problem, it is Nylocs in stainless that cause most galling problems for us. Our old trailer has has M12 bolts holding the coupling and axles in place and we have not touched them in 12 years, other than the occasional tightness check. Thanks again for the interest. -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Mon Feb 14 20:38:31 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:38:31 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Quiet In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4E73E9AD@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: I am going to be a lot quieter for a while (but hopefully not too long). We have decided it is time to move from our little inner city house to something much more substantial in the suburbs. This will give us more room for our growing boy and finally allow me some space for a workshop. So for the next few months we will be busy getting our place for sale, finding something else, & moving. Patrick Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From service.ka at edwardsmotors.com.au Mon Feb 14 20:51:26 2011 From: service.ka at edwardsmotors.com.au (Chester Smith) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:51:26 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Quiet References: Message-ID: <004b01cbcccc$00cc1300$210110ac@Chester> Hi Patrick, we are in the process of doing this, i have moved from a 1/4 acre block to 10 acres, slowly setting up sheds & my private museum/collection, i still manage to sneak in a bit of engine work, it is also great for the kids, you wont regret it, cheers, Chester. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Livingstone" To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine" Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Quiet >I am going to be a lot quieter for a while (but hopefully not too long). We > have decided it is time to move from our little inner city house to > something much more substantial in the suburbs. This will give us more > room > for our growing boy and finally allow me some space for a workshop. > So for the next few months we will be busy getting our place for sale, > finding something else, & moving. > Patrick > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Tue Feb 15 04:13:48 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 23:13:48 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Quiet In-Reply-To: <004b01cbcccc$00cc1300$210110ac@Chester> Message-ID: Hi Chester, We are not going quite as big but it will be a big change from what we have now. We plan on going from out 2 bedroom place with a land area of about 170sq/m to something with 3 or 4 bedrooms on a 500-600sq/m block with at least a double garage. It will give more room for the little man and his dog and will allow me to keep a couple of big engines at home :) Patrick On 15/2/11 3:51 PM, "Chester Smith" wrote: > Hi Patrick, > we are in the process of doing this, i have moved from a 1/4 acre block to > 10 acres, > slowly setting up sheds & my private museum/collection, i still manage to > sneak in a bit of engine work, > it is also great for the kids, you wont regret it, cheers, > Chester. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick Livingstone" > To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine" > > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 12:38 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Quiet > > >> I am going to be a lot quieter for a while (but hopefully not too long). We >> have decided it is time to move from our little inner city house to >> something much more substantial in the suburbs. This will give us more >> room >> for our growing boy and finally allow me some space for a workshop. >> So for the next few months we will be busy getting our place for sale, >> finding something else, & moving. >> Patrick >> >> >> Patrick M Livingstone >> Leichhardt NSW >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From kelly_reynolds at rocketmail.com Tue Feb 15 19:02:31 2011 From: kelly_reynolds at rocketmail.com (Kelly Reynolds) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:02:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? Message-ID: <210817.45514.qm@web43404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hey gang! Long time no see! Just re-subscribed after a few years off of here! Found a few folks on facebook but need to catch up with some of the old timers! Kelly Reynolds Henderson, Kentucky From maytagtwin at aol.com Tue Feb 15 19:12:16 2011 From: maytagtwin at aol.com (maytagtwin at aol.com) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:12:16 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? In-Reply-To: <210817.45514.qm@web43404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <210817.45514.qm@web43404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CD9B9E72C9F2AB-810-388E2@webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com> Hi Kelly, Welcome back. Yes, it ia a little quiet but usually is this time of year UNLESS there are bouts of cabin fever and the guys are taking crankhandles to each other. I haven't seen the Flame Mistress put on her nomex (or, spandex, which?) suit in some time. Since you have been gone, what engines have you found? Regards, Ron Carroll Clearmont, Missouri -----Original Message----- From: Kelly Reynolds To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Tue, Feb 15, 2011 9:02 pm Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? Hey gang! ong time no see! Just re-subscribed after a few years off of here! Found a ew folks on facebook but need to catch up with some of the old timers! elly Reynolds enderson, Kentucky ______________________________________________ EL mailing list EL at lists.stationary-engine.com ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lew at lewslittlefarm.com Tue Feb 15 19:14:37 2011 From: lew at lewslittlefarm.com (Lew Best) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:14:37 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? In-Reply-To: <210817.45514.qm@web43404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <210817.45514.qm@web43404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00df01cbcd87$af43b440$0dcb1cc0$@com> I'm still here; not very active but I do read most of the posts. Welcome back. Lew near Waco, TX -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 9:03 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? Hey gang! Long time no see! Just re-subscribed after a few years off of here! Found a few folks on facebook but need to catch up with some of the old timers! Kelly Reynolds Henderson, Kentucky _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From service.ka at edwardsmotors.com.au Tue Feb 15 22:52:09 2011 From: service.ka at edwardsmotors.com.au (Chester Smith) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:52:09 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Quiet References: Message-ID: <002901cbcda6$088ec2b0$210110ac@Chester> Patrick, that will be a big change, you wont know what to do with yourself, good luck with the selling & buying, cheers, Chester. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Livingstone" To: "ATIS" Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Quiet > Hi Chester, > We are not going quite as big but it will be a big change from what we > have > now. We plan on going from out 2 bedroom place with a land area of about > 170sq/m to something with 3 or 4 bedrooms on a 500-600sq/m block with at > least a double garage. It will give more room for the little man and his > dog > and will allow me to keep a couple of big engines at home :) > Patrick > > > On 15/2/11 3:51 PM, "Chester Smith" > wrote: > >> Hi Patrick, >> we are in the process of doing this, i have moved from a 1/4 acre block >> to >> 10 acres, >> slowly setting up sheds & my private museum/collection, i still manage to >> sneak in a bit of engine work, >> it is also great for the kids, you wont regret it, cheers, >> Chester. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Patrick Livingstone" >> To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine" >> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 12:38 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Quiet >> >> >>> I am going to be a lot quieter for a while (but hopefully not too long). >>> We >>> have decided it is time to move from our little inner city house to >>> something much more substantial in the suburbs. This will give us more >>> room >>> for our growing boy and finally allow me some space for a workshop. >>> So for the next few months we will be busy getting our place for sale, >>> finding something else, & moving. >>> Patrick >>> >>> >>> Patrick M Livingstone >>> Leichhardt NSW >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Feb 16 03:17:26 2011 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:17:26 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Dave Croft's Birthday Message-ID: Hi all Today is Dave Croft?s Birthday so fill his inbox with birthday wishes, 70 today. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Australia From kelly_reynolds at rocketmail.com Wed Feb 16 04:08:30 2011 From: kelly_reynolds at rocketmail.com (Kelly Reynolds) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 04:08:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? In-Reply-To: <8CD9B9E72C9F2AB-810-388E2@webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com> References: <210817.45514.qm@web43404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8CD9B9E72C9F2AB-810-388E2@webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <329144.61123.qm@web43414.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Thanks Ron! I haven't acquired alot of new toys but do have a few baby ones. No room for flywheels right now but do have some air cooled toys. In fact, back in November a friend from church that works at the local landfill, found me an old tiller with a Clinton engine on it. I finally got it running yesterday. It is complete except for the fuel cap. Other than that there are a few other Clintons, Briggs, & Lausons along with Kimmy's Maytag! Kelly Reynolds Henderson, Kentucky ________________________________ From: "maytagtwin at aol.com" To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 9:12:16 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Is the List still around? Hi Kelly, Welcome back. Yes, it ia a little quiet but usually is this time of year UNLESS there are bouts of cabin fever and the guys are taking crankhandles to each other. I haven't seen the Flame Mistress put on her nomex (or, spandex, which?) suit in some time. Since you have been gone, what engines have you found? Regards, Ron Carroll Clearmont, Missouri -----Original Message----- From: Kelly Reynolds To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Tue, Feb 15, 2011 9:02 pm Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? Hey gang! ong time no see! Just re-subscribed after a few years off of here! Found a ew folks on facebook but need to catch up with some of the old timers! elly Reynolds enderson, Kentucky ______________________________________________ EL mailing list EL at lists.stationary-engine.com ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Wed Feb 16 04:18:55 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:18:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? In-Reply-To: <329144.61123.qm@web43414.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <210817.45514.qm@web43404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8CD9B9E72C9F2AB-810-388E2@webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com> <329144.61123.qm@web43414.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Can we, then, expect to see you at the SIAM Show this year? Dave On Feb 16, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Kelly Reynolds wrote: > Thanks Ron! > I haven't acquired alot of new toys but do have a few baby ones. > No room for > flywheels right now but do have some air cooled toys. In fact, > back in > November a friend from church that works at the local landfill, > found me an old > tiller with a Clinton engine on it. I finally got it running > yesterday. It is > complete except for the fuel cap. Other than that there are a few > other > Clintons, Briggs, & Lausons along with Kimmy's Maytag! > > > Kelly Reynolds > Henderson, Kentucky > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "maytagtwin at aol.com" > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 9:12:16 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Is the List still around? > > > Hi Kelly, > Welcome back. Yes, it ia a little quiet but usually is this time of > year UNLESS > there are bouts of cabin fever and the guys are taking crankhandles > to each > other. I haven't seen the Flame Mistress put on her nomex (or, > spandex, which?) > suit in some time. > > > Since you have been gone, what engines have you found? > > Regards, > Ron Carroll > Clearmont, Missouri > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kelly Reynolds > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Tue, Feb 15, 2011 9:02 pm > Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? > > > Hey gang! > ong time no see! Just re-subscribed after a few years off of > here! Found a > ew folks on facebook but need to catch up with some of the old timers! > elly Reynolds > enderson, Kentucky > > > ______________________________________________ > EL mailing list > EL at lists.stationary-engine.com > ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From kelly_reynolds at rocketmail.com Wed Feb 16 04:36:13 2011 From: kelly_reynolds at rocketmail.com (Kelly Reynolds) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 06:36:13 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? In-Reply-To: References: <210817.45514.qm@web43404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8CD9B9E72C9F2AB-810-388E2@webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com> <329144.61123.qm@web43414.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FD07E4F-4496-4648-88B4-380F47303E33@rocketmail.com> Friday is hopeful but I think we're leaving Saturday for Orlando! Scheduling was off a bit for the show but I'm ready for some Florida Sunshine! I'll be there if i can? Kelly Reynolds Henderson, Kentucky Sent from my iPhone On Feb 16, 2011, at 6:18 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > Can we, then, expect to see you at the SIAM Show this year? > Dave > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Kelly Reynolds wrote: > >> Thanks Ron! >> I haven't acquired alot of new toys but do have a few baby ones. >> No room for >> flywheels right now but do have some air cooled toys. In fact, >> back in >> November a friend from church that works at the local landfill, >> found me an old >> tiller with a Clinton engine on it. I finally got it running >> yesterday. It is >> complete except for the fuel cap. Other than that there are a few >> other >> Clintons, Briggs, & Lausons along with Kimmy's Maytag! >> >> >> Kelly Reynolds >> Henderson, Kentucky >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: "maytagtwin at aol.com" >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 9:12:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Is the List still around? >> >> >> Hi Kelly, >> Welcome back. Yes, it ia a little quiet but usually is this time of >> year UNLESS >> there are bouts of cabin fever and the guys are taking crankhandles >> to each >> other. I haven't seen the Flame Mistress put on her nomex (or, >> spandex, which?) >> suit in some time. >> >> >> Since you have been gone, what engines have you found? >> >> Regards, >> Ron Carroll >> Clearmont, Missouri >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kelly Reynolds >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Sent: Tue, Feb 15, 2011 9:02 pm >> Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? >> >> >> Hey gang! >> ong time no see! Just re-subscribed after a few years off of >> here! Found a >> ew folks on facebook but need to catch up with some of the old timers! >> elly Reynolds >> enderson, Kentucky >> >> >> ______________________________________________ >> EL mailing list >> EL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From cgandree at mchsi.com Wed Feb 16 05:08:11 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:08:11 -0600 (CST) Subject: [SEL] Happy Birthday Dave Croft Message-ID: <592926400.11321297861691232.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Happy Birthday Dave and many more! Curt Andree From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Feb 16 07:15:32 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:15:32 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Dave Croft's Birthday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1bebd6ba338bb6fa50812e474b7ac3a4.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hey Dave, Best wishes on the day!! I trust you'll sink a few pints of the "good stuff"? Just remember, 70 isn't old... If you're a stationary engine... Or a tree... 8-)) See ya, Arnie On Wed, February 16, 2011 6:17 am, Peter Lowe wrote: > Today is Dave Croft???s Birthday so fill his inbox with birthday wishes, 70 today. From obise at moscow.com Wed Feb 16 07:32:46 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:32:46 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Dave Croft's Birthday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2774FDCCE6E6464FB8AECB35E4469E8D@CathyComp> Happy birthday, Dave! Take it from someone who has been there and done that, life begins at 70! Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. _____ From: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org [mailto:stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 3:17 AM To: ATIS; Oldengine.org Subject: Dave Croft's Birthday Hi all Today is Dave Croft's Birthday so fill his inbox with birthday wishes, 70 today. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Australia From rotigel at me.com Wed Feb 16 14:34:55 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:34:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Many Have...... In-Reply-To: <726699.98262.qm@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <726699.98262.qm@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ......seen this, some may have not! See: http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,213971.0/topicseen.html From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Feb 16 15:31:27 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:31:27 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Many Have...... In-Reply-To: References: <726699.98262.qm@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1187813A-972A-4BD2-921F-7CFD2E2C3BDC@ncable.com.au> It must be a very clean tractor also as the driver never seemed to have any dirty marks on his tie or shirt! On 17/02/2011, at 9:34 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > ......seen this, some may have not! See: http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,213971.0/topicseen.html > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rfinksr at verizon.net Wed Feb 16 15:53:56 2011 From: rfinksr at verizon.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:53:56 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Many Have...... References: <726699.98262.qm@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <63D17072D2034062BE4FA097FF049F4B@computer> I have not. Have seen photos of fordson with them on but never in action. I would like to see them start one. The one my grand father had he would crank till tired then hook the horse to it. And get some one to pull till it started. R Fink PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" Cc: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 5:34 PM Subject: [SEL] Many Have...... > ......seen this, some may have not! See: > http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,213971.0/topicseen.html > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Wed Feb 16 15:51:04 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:51:04 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Many Have...... In-Reply-To: <1187813A-972A-4BD2-921F-7CFD2E2C3BDC@ncable.com.au> References: <726699.98262.qm@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <1187813A-972A-4BD2-921F-7CFD2E2C3BDC@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <47C4E33C-8DDC-49AE-8BEB-9EBC8812F9E7@me.com> In the teens and 20's men in the USA had class! Dave On Feb 16, 2011, at 6:31 PM, Russell wrote: > It must be a very clean tractor also as the driver never seemed to > have any dirty marks on his tie or shirt! > > > On 17/02/2011, at 9:34 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > >> ......seen this, some may have not! See: http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,213971.0/topicseen.html >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From kelly_reynolds at rocketmail.com Wed Feb 16 18:37:24 2011 From: kelly_reynolds at rocketmail.com (Kelly Reynolds) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:37:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] Many Have...... In-Reply-To: References: <726699.98262.qm@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <990868.66403.qm@web43402.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Thanks Dave! That is just plain tough! My grand pa would have loved that. He restored nearly 2 dozen Fordsons over the years. Kelly Reynolds Henderson, Kentucky ________________________________ From: Dave Rotigel To: Antique tractor email discussion group C ......seen this, some may have not! See: http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,213971.0/topicseen.html _______________________________________________ S From christison at coastalnet.com Wed Feb 16 19:17:09 2011 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:17:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Many Have...... In-Reply-To: References: <726699.98262.qm@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D5C9335.8010307@coastalnet.com> Here is a lot of info on these vehicles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw-propelled_vehicle Ken On 2/16/2011 5:34 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > ......seen this, some may have not! See: http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,213971.0/topicseen.html > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 00:23:30 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:23:30 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Many Have...... In-Reply-To: References: <726699.98262.qm@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 16 February 2011 22:34, Dave Rotigel wrote: > ......seen this, some may have not! See: http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,213971.0/topicseen.html There is/was one on display at the Heidrick Agricultural Museum at Woodland. Strange looking beast! Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Feb 17 05:00:22 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:00:22 EST Subject: [SEL] oldengine.org/members help Message-ID: _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/famous%20belted.jpg_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/famous%20belted.jpg) I am no longer able to upload any photos to oldengine.org. This may have happened when the server went down a while ago. Ken Christison had made a folder of "images" at the site for me to download to which has worked for years. I can no longer open this "image" folder. The photos I have previously posted are still there as noted above. I have this one squirreled away in my computer is the only reason I know it is still there. Others I have no way of knowing they are there as I cannot open the "images" folder to see what all I have put there over the years. Seems to me I remember a posting that there were some changes to the site, but not sure and may have dreamed it. Can anybody shed some light? WOW-70 degrees today! Thanks Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu Feb 17 00:46:52 2011 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:46:52 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Lister J Question In-Reply-To: References: <276B3133-D95D-4024-90D9-11884933E17F@adam.com.au> Message-ID: <581C723D1CCC4A7B8174F93561C106C7@KerryPC> G'Day Peter I have had a early lister J for many years No 5633 I think it was built 1912. Alway had other engines to restore so sat on the shelf, Started today on a quick rebuild for a rally end of March, (aways leave things to the last) Anyway the question. it has what is left of a piston water pump on the side, I can fabricate a new body but do you know how the non return valves worked? eg balls etc in the base. Thank you for any help Kerry From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 08:47:06 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:47:06 +0000 Subject: [SEL] oldengine.org/members help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 17 February 2011 13:00, wrote: > _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/famous%20belted.jpg_ > (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/famous%20belted.jpg) > > I am no longer able to upload any photos to oldengine.org. ?This may ?have > happened when the server went down a while ago. ?Ken Christison had ?made a > folder of "images" at the site for me to download to which has ?worked for > years. ?I can no longer open this "image" folder. ?The ?photos I have > previously posted are still there as noted above. ?I have ?this one squirreled away > in my computer is the only reason I know it is still ?there. ?Others I have > no way of knowing they are there as I cannot open the ?"images" folder to > see what all I have put there over the years. > > Seems to me I remember a posting that there were some changes to the site, > but not sure and may have dreamed it. > > Can anybody shed some light? Tom: I'll check when I get home, I think that there may have been some directory changes to the folder locations as far as FTP is concerned, but can't confirm until I have looked at the admin side of the site. I'll be home in about 30 minutes or so. Jim is en route to Florida so I can't ask him, should be able to sort something out. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From levans44 at roadrunner.com Thu Feb 17 09:31:46 2011 From: levans44 at roadrunner.com (Larry Evans) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 09:31:46 -0800 Subject: [SEL] oldengine.org/members help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D5D5B82.2070209@roadrunner.com> Peter, Another thing to consider is that he might be having the same problem that Ken Christison and I had that was solved by changing one setting on his FTP software. Here is a copy of what I found at that time: > I had the same problem until I changed the "Server Response Type" > setting in my FTP client software. Previously the default setting > worked o.k. I changed it to Microsoft FTP-v.5.0 which was one of the > other options offered. You might experiment with your settings and > find that all is well. Regards, Larry Evans On 2/17/2011 8:47 AM, Listerdiesel wrote: > On 17 February 2011 13:00, wrote: > >> _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/famous%20belted.jpg_ >> (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/famous%20belted.jpg) >> >> I am no longer able to upload any photos to oldengine.org. This may have >> happened when the server went down a while ago. Ken Christison had made a >> folder of "images" at the site for me to download to which has worked for >> years. I can no longer open this "image" folder. The photos I have >> previously posted are still there as noted above. I have this one squirreled away >> in my computer is the only reason I know it is still there. Others I have >> no way of knowing they are there as I cannot open the "images" folder to >> see what all I have put there over the years. >> >> Seems to me I remember a posting that there were some changes to the site, >> but not sure and may have dreamed it. >> >> Can anybody shed some light? >> > Tom: > > I'll check when I get home, I think that there may have been some > directory changes to the folder locations as far as FTP is concerned, > but can't confirm until I have looked at the admin side of the site. > I'll be home in about 30 minutes or so. > > Jim is en route to Florida so I can't ask him, should be able to sort > something out. > > Peter > -- Larry Evans MailTo:LEVANS44 at roadrunner.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 10:39:39 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:39:39 +0000 Subject: [SEL] oldengine.org/members help In-Reply-To: <4D5D5B82.2070209@roadrunner.com> References: <4D5D5B82.2070209@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: On 17 February 2011 17:31, Larry Evans wrote: > Peter, > > Another thing to consider is that he might be having the same problem > that Ken Christison and I had that was solved by changing one setting on > his FTP software. ?Here is a copy of what I found at that time: > >> I had the same problem until I changed the "Server Response Type" >> setting in my FTP client software. ?Previously the default setting >> worked o.k. ?I changed it to Microsoft FTP-v.5.0 which was one of the >> other options offered. ?You might experiment with your settings and >> find that all is well. > > Regards, > Larry Evans Thanks for that reminder, Larry, Tom might want to have a look at his settings. I can access the folder by FTP, and everything is there. I haven't changed any of my own FTP settings in 10 years or more, so not sure why it is needed now. Over to you, Tom. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From christison at coastalnet.com Thu Feb 17 10:57:57 2011 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:57:57 -0500 Subject: [SEL] oldengine.org/members help In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D5B82.2070209@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <4D5D6FB5.3040301@coastalnet.com> Hi Peter, I have never had to change any of my ftp settings before this, and I have 7 domains that have over the years been on probably 5 different servers. The fix that Larry mentioned worked for me and I passed that on to Tom this morning. I think he was going to be away from the computer for a while, so we won't know what he finds out until later. Take care. Ken On 2/17/2011 1:39 PM, Listerdiesel wrote: > On 17 February 2011 17:31, Larry Evans wrote: >> Peter, >> >> Another thing to consider is that he might be having the same problem >> that Ken Christison and I had that was solved by changing one setting on >> his FTP software. Here is a copy of what I found at that time: >> >>> I had the same problem until I changed the "Server Response Type" >>> setting in my FTP client software. Previously the default setting >>> worked o.k. I changed it to Microsoft FTP-v.5.0 which was one of the >>> other options offered. You might experiment with your settings and >>> find that all is well. >> Regards, >> Larry Evans > Thanks for that reminder, Larry, Tom might want to have a look at his settings. > > I can access the folder by FTP, and everything is there. > > I haven't changed any of my own FTP settings in 10 years or more, so > not sure why it is needed now. > > Over to you, Tom. > > Peter From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 12:00:39 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:00:39 +0000 Subject: [SEL] oldengine.org/members help In-Reply-To: <4D5D6FB5.3040301@coastalnet.com> References: <4D5D5B82.2070209@roadrunner.com> <4D5D6FB5.3040301@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: On 17 February 2011 18:57, Ken Christison wrote: > Hi Peter, > > I have never had to change any of my ftp settings before this, and I have > 7 domains that have over the years been on probably 5 different servers. > The fix that Larry mentioned worked for me and I passed that on to > Tom this morning. ?I think he was going to be away from the computer > for a while, so we won't know what he finds out until later. > > Take care. > > Ken Cheers, Ken, we'll wait until Tom gets back to us. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Feb 17 16:38:16 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:38:16 EST Subject: [SEL] oldengine.org/members help Message-ID: <52e7b.3ebc48c2.3a8f1978@aol.com> Ken, Peter, Larry, Changed the default setting to FTP V5.0 and saved it as suggested and did not help the matter. After changing, I closed and restarted FTP and it had in fact saved the 5.0 change, but as I said did not help. Tried V4.0 just for the heck of it and did not help. Previous to this, the "Images" folder that Ken put there was always at the top of the list when I got to the site. Now the "Images" folder is down the list in alphabetical order and will not open up. Maybe this has something to do with it. Just realized that every file I initially transferred many years ago before I had the "Images" folder has a date of 2-5-11, even the "Images" folder. Something occurred on that date to my files there. A knowledgeable computer person I am not! Thanks fellas! Tom From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Feb 17 16:48:39 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:48:39 EST Subject: [SEL] oldengine.org/members help Message-ID: <5358f.692785b4.3a8f1be7@aol.com> Peter, Ken, Larry, Hang on for a couple of days, seems it is working now. Closed everything down and restarted. Opened FTP. For some reason it had reset itself to "default". Changed to 5.0, saved, and then went to .org. Images folder is at top of page and I can open it. I will try to send something to it and see if that works. Hopefully everything is solved. Thanks, Tom From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Feb 17 16:55:48 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:55:48 EST Subject: [SEL] FTP test Message-ID: <53ae6.349948d2.3a8f1d94@aol.com> _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/box%20done.jpg_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/box%20done.jpg) Here is a photo of one of two jewelry boxes that I started many years ago and just now getting around to finishing. They are solid cherry. They second one needs about 3 more coats of finish. The cold winter helped to get them done! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From FRM8198 at aol.com Thu Feb 17 17:20:17 2011 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:20:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] FTP test Message-ID: <431d5.729bbe58.3a8f2351@aol.com> Very nice. Well worth the wait. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA In a message dated 2/17/2011 5:05:59 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Germoamer at aol.com writes: Here is a photo of one of two jewelry boxes that I started many years ago and just now getting around to finishing. They are solid cherry. They second one needs about 3 more coats of finish. The cold winter helped to get them done! From rwenig2 at xplornet.com Thu Feb 17 17:24:49 2011 From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:24:49 -0700 Subject: [SEL] FTP test In-Reply-To: <53ae6.349948d2.3a8f1d94@aol.com> References: <53ae6.349948d2.3a8f1d94@aol.com> Message-ID: <4D5DCA61.2050800@xplornet.com> Very nice Tom. Cherry is a fun wood to work with. I found it very hard. Rupert On 2/17/2011 5:55 PM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/box%20done.jpg_ > (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/box%20done.jpg) > > Here is a photo of one of two jewelry boxes that I started many years ago > and just now getting around to finishing. They are solid cherry. They > second one needs about 3 more coats of finish. The cold winter helped to get > them done! > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > -- yvt Rupert Wenig Camrose, Alberta, Canada. email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com http://users.xplornet.com/~rwenig/Home/ From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Feb 17 18:19:10 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:19:10 -0500 Subject: [SEL] FTP test References: <53ae6.349948d2.3a8f1d94@aol.com> Message-ID: <001801cbcf12$3a6c2d00$0201a8c0@mikecomp> SWEET!!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:55 PM Subject: [SEL] FTP test > _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/box%20done.jpg_ > (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/box%20done.jpg) > > Here is a photo of one of two jewelry boxes that I started many years ago > and just now getting around to finishing. They are solid cherry. They > second one needs about 3 more coats of finish. The cold winter helped to > get > them done! > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Thu Feb 17 19:35:10 2011 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:35:10 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Was,FTP test Message-ID: <20110217.193532.946.141089@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> Beautiful Tom. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ $65/Hr Job - 25 Openings Part-Time job ($20-$65/hr). Requirements: Home Internet Access http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d5de919a920b33528dst06vuc From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Feb 17 20:48:24 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 23:48:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] FTP test In-Reply-To: <53ae6.349948d2.3a8f1d94@aol.com> References: <53ae6.349948d2.3a8f1d94@aol.com> Message-ID: <7ed7e3bf4549568f577d047bf4dfe0f4.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Man, that's some gorgeous woodworking! On Thu, February 17, 2011 7:55 pm, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/box%20done.jpg_ > (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/box%20done.jpg) > > Here is a photo of one of two jewelry boxes that I started many years ago > and just now getting around to finishing. They are solid cherry. They > second one needs about 3 more coats of finish. The cold winter helped to get > them done! From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 21:18:45 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:18:45 +1100 Subject: [SEL] FTP test In-Reply-To: <53ae6.349948d2.3a8f1d94@aol.com> Message-ID: Really nice work Tom. On 18/2/11 11:55 AM, "Germoamer at aol.com" wrote: > _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/box%20done.jpg_ > (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/box%20done.jpg) > > Here is a photo of one of two jewelry boxes that I started many years ago > and just now getting around to finishing. They are solid cherry. They > second one needs about 3 more coats of finish. The cold winter helped to get > them done! > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From wboldrusty70 at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 21:44:55 2011 From: wboldrusty70 at gmail.com (William Burg) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:44:55 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Iron Horse mower engine. Message-ID: I have obtained a Morrison lawn mower which has an Iron Horse 2 stroke engine as the power supply. All looks good with the mechanicals, but I am after some help with the electrical side of this engine, particularly the governor system. It appears the governor actually shorts the ignition system, and some parts are missing, making it difficult to work it out. Does anyone have any information on this engine? Drawings would be very helpful. Bill from Australia. From rustyiron1 at bigpond.com Fri Feb 18 00:14:05 2011 From: rustyiron1 at bigpond.com (Andy Nicholson) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:14:05 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Lister J Question References: <276B3133-D95D-4024-90D9-11884933E17F@adam.com.au> <581C723D1CCC4A7B8174F93561C106C7@KerryPC> Message-ID: <01711872866040D7A7E0BB6CBFDD2A1C@owner916e4fa44> Hi Kerry. Are these Lister J's the same as the Southern Cross P's? I've seen a lot of parts on Ebay for J's, which I bet would fit onto the S/C P I'm putting together now. I don't know what you mean by "water pump" as my S/C P has only the Fuel & Oil pump on the side. Do you have any photo's? Andy Qld ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:46 PM Subject: [SEL] Lister J Question > G'Day Peter > > I have had a early lister J for many years No 5633 I think it was built > 1912. > Alway had other engines to restore so sat on the shelf, Started today on a > quick rebuild for a rally end of March, (aways leave things to the last) > Anyway the question. it has what is left of a piston water pump on the > side, > I can fabricate a new body but do you know how the non return valves > worked? > eg balls etc in the base. > Thank you for any help > > Kerry > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From cooperjb at aapt.net.au Fri Feb 18 03:11:52 2011 From: cooperjb at aapt.net.au (John & Beryl Cooper) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 22:11:52 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Lister J Question In-Reply-To: <581C723D1CCC4A7B8174F93561C106C7@KerryPC> Message-ID: <3BA52E6215B743B288AD2CBDBD1E128A@JBCooper> Hi Kerry, I think you may be looking at the remains of the piston fuel pump on the side. Some pictures would help. John Cooper Bega, Australia. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2011 7:47 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Lister J Question G'Day Peter I have had a early lister J for many years No 5633 I think it was built 1912. Alway had other engines to restore so sat on the shelf, Started today on a quick rebuild for a rally end of March, (aways leave things to the last) Anyway the question. it has what is left of a piston water pump on the side, I can fabricate a new body but do you know how the non return valves worked? eg balls etc in the base. Thank you for any help Kerry From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 14:25:01 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:25:01 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Lister J Question In-Reply-To: <581C723D1CCC4A7B8174F93561C106C7@KerryPC> Message-ID: Hi Kerry, I will try and find a better pic but this is the best I have found so far of an early Lister with a piston water pump: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/y09/images/DSCF4365_JPG.jpg Many have a rotary pump and I have only seen a couple with the piston pump fitted. I think they used check balls similar to an Austral water pump. Patrick On 17/2/11 7:46 PM, "Kerry" wrote: > G'Day Peter > > I have had a early lister J for many years No 5633 I think it was built > 1912. > Alway had other engines to restore so sat on the shelf, Started today on a > quick rebuild for a rally end of March, (aways leave things to the last) > Anyway the question. it has what is left of a piston water pump on the side, > I can fabricate a new body but do you know how the non return valves worked? > eg balls etc in the base. > Thank you for any help > > Kerry > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From rehot at msn.com Sat Feb 19 15:19:15 2011 From: rehot at msn.com (Ralph Holt) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:19:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Redneck GoCart In-Reply-To: References: <581C723D1CCC4A7B8174F93561C106C7@KerryPC>, Message-ID: One of a kind for sure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULQ6196Tfds&NR=1&feature=fvwp From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Sat Feb 19 16:15:41 2011 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:15:41 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Elden..you have a brother Message-ID: Very kewl..anyone know him? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULQ6196Tfds&feature=player_embedded From bakermonitor1932 at hotmail.com Sat Feb 19 17:36:25 2011 From: bakermonitor1932 at hotmail.com (Devin Holland) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:36:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Lister J Question (Patrick Livingstone) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kerry that looks like the one on our 8hp Famous we were able to put a wood dowel in the intake and use solder to build up the seats. To lap them we took a ball Bering, a nail and welded them together and used a drill to lap the new seats in.Devin Holland > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:25:01 +1100 > From: Patrick Livingstone > Subject: Re: [SEL] Lister J Question > To: ATIS > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi Kerry, > I will try and find a better pic but this is the best I have found so far of > an early Lister with a piston water pump: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/y09/images/DSCF4365_JPG.jpg > Many have a rotary pump and I have only seen a couple with the piston pump > fitted. I think they used check balls similar to an Austral water pump. > Patrick > > > On 17/2/11 7:46 PM, "Kerry" wrote: > > > G'Day Peter > > > > I have had a early lister J for many years No 5633 I think it was built > > 1912. > > Alway had other engines to restore so sat on the shelf, Started today on a > > quick rebuild for a rally end of March, (aways leave things to the last) > > Anyway the question. it has what is left of a piston water pump on the side, > > I can fabricate a new body but do you know how the non return valves worked? > > eg balls etc in the base. > > Thank you for any help > > > > Kerry From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Sat Feb 19 20:53:00 2011 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 15:53:00 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Lister J Question Message-ID: <935F255AD37C407D97E7ADDF23290074@KerryPC> G'Day Patrick, John & Andy Thanks for reply As seen in Patrick's photo some early J's had water piston pumps bolted to the engine frame under the fuel/oil pump, the piston was operated from a separate cam between the big end and the fly wheel, as can be seen on mine http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Temporary17.html. What is left of the pump shows no sign of any non return valve arrangement. Kerry From cgandree at mchsi.com Sun Feb 20 04:20:22 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 06:20:22 -0600 (CST) Subject: [SEL] Redneck GoCart In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1751716456.745501298204422561.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Ralph who owns this contraption? Am interested in knowing if the big engine is a Stover? thanks for sharing, Curt Andree ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Holt" To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 5:19:15 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [SEL] Redneck GoCart One of a kind for sure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULQ6196Tfds&NR=1&feature=fvwp _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rehot at msn.com Sun Feb 20 06:32:29 2011 From: rehot at msn.com (Ralph Holt) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:32:29 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Redneck GoCart In-Reply-To: <1751716456.745501298204422561.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: , <1751716456.745501298204422561.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: Hi Curt, I'm sorry but I do not know. I just stumbled across this video while checking out other cool redneck inventions and stuff on You Tube. In the description this is all it says about it: Builder/operator unknown. This was captured at the Santa Fe Trail Tired Iron Show west of Larned Ks. Oct 11, 2008 Ralph > Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 06:20:22 -0600 > From: cgandree at mchsi.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Redneck GoCart > > Ralph who owns this contraption? Am interested in knowing if the big engine is a Stover? > thanks for sharing, > Curt Andree > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ralph Holt" > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 5:19:15 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: [SEL] Redneck GoCart > > > One of a kind for sure. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULQ6196Tfds&NR=1&feature=fvwp > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Feb 20 08:35:20 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:35:20 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems Message-ID: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Folks, Dolly also has a FaceBook thread going on this topic if you're on FaceBook. --------------------------------- Original Message --------------------------------- Subject: Fwd: Crosshead Problems From: "Jim French" Date: Sun, February 20, 2011 10:00 am To: "Arnie Fero" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi Arnie Can you do me a favour and post this to the ATIS list? I've tried a couple of times and it doesn't appear. Thanks, Dolly -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Crosshead Problems Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:54:23 +0000 From: Jim French Organisation: French Brothers Insulation To: ATIS Stationary Engine List Hi Folks Remember Tillie, the half-breed oilfield engine I bought for Jim's 40th birthday? Well, guess what? That was 10 years ago! Now we're hoping to take her to Nuenen this year, but a problem has arisen. When we got Tillie, the babbitt on the crosshead was thin and worn, so going to Nuenen has inspired Jim to re-do the babbitt. Today, he stripped the crosshead down but when he started warming everything up, degreasing and drying it out before attempting pouring the molten babbitt, he spotted a tiny line of oil coming out of the main bearing as it warmed up, so the project has been halted. What now? Before going any further, advice and suggestions will be most welcome. And, just out of curiousity, how was this bearing machined when new, because it can't be rotated and it appears to be one single casting? Anyway, please take a look at the pictures http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/crosshead.htm Thanks for all and any input! Jim& Dolly -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From rwenig2 at xplornet.com Sun Feb 20 14:17:37 2011 From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 15:17:37 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems In-Reply-To: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <4D619301.9030209@xplornet.com> My guess is they placed a machined cast iron core (for the shaft) in place in the mold prior to closing the mold and then pouring the rest of the casting. The core would have to be hot when placed in the mold and the pour done before the core had time to cool down. All that would be needed to do after the pour is polish the shaft if the molding and casting process was done carefully. I've used steel cores for a similar purpose but the casting I poured was aluminum. Rupert On 2/20/2011 9:35 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Folks, Dolly also has a FaceBook thread going on this topic if you're on FaceBook. > > --------------------------------- Original Message --------------------------------- > Subject: Fwd: Crosshead Problems > From: "Jim French" > Date: Sun, February 20, 2011 10:00 am > To: "Arnie Fero" > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Hi Arnie > > Can you do me a favour and post this to the ATIS list? I've tried a > couple of times and it doesn't appear. > > Thanks, > Dolly > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Crosshead Problems > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:54:23 +0000 > From: Jim French > Organisation: French Brothers Insulation > To: ATIS Stationary Engine List > > Hi Folks > > Remember Tillie, the half-breed oilfield engine I bought for Jim's 40th > birthday? Well, guess what? That was 10 years ago! Now we're hoping > to take her to Nuenen this year, but a problem has arisen. > When we got Tillie, the babbitt on the crosshead was thin and worn, so > going to Nuenen has inspired Jim to re-do the babbitt. Today, he > stripped the crosshead down but when he started warming everything up, > degreasing and drying it out before attempting pouring the molten > babbitt, he spotted a tiny line of oil coming out of the main bearing as > it warmed up, so the project has been halted. What now? Before going > any further, advice and suggestions will be most welcome. > And, just out of curiousity, how was this bearing machined when new, > because it can't be rotated and it appears to be one single casting? > Anyway, please take a look at the pictures > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/crosshead.htm > Thanks for all and any input! > > Jim& Dolly > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -- yvt Rupert Wenig Camrose, Alberta, Canada. email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com http://users.xplornet.com/~rwenig/Home/ From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Feb 20 23:52:13 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:52:13 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems In-Reply-To: <4D619301.9030209@xplornet.com> References: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <4D619301.9030209@xplornet.com> Message-ID: On 20 February 2011 22:17, Rupert wrote: > ? ? ? ?My guess is they placed a machined cast iron core (for the shaft) in > place in the mold prior to closing the mold and then pouring the rest of the > casting. The core would have to be hot when placed in the mold and the pour > done before the core had time to cool down. All that would be needed to do > after the pour is polish the shaft if the molding and casting process was > done carefully. > ? ? ? ?I've used steel cores for a similar purpose but the casting I poured > was aluminum. > > Rupert That would be my guess as well. If Jim & Helen could check the material and grain of the pin, that would possibly help with working out if it is a separate pice cast in or not. They might be able to bore through and push a steel pin into the assembly to stiffen it up, but it looks like you'd be machining through some of the bearing areas, even with a 1.5" pin. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 03:06:43 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:06:43 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems In-Reply-To: <29BBAFB0C7B4439EBC1A29F2DCBA87BC@KitchenHP> References: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <4D619301.9030209@xplornet.com> <29BBAFB0C7B4439EBC1A29F2DCBA87BC@KitchenHP> Message-ID: On 21 February 2011 08:43, Gene's Wowway e-mail wrote: > I am an engine neophyte, and NOT a machinist, but I wondered about something > like Peter's suggestion below. > > Gene I spoke with Jim this morning, and we looked at putting a HT cap head screw through the centre of the assemby to pull the sides together, or at least to stop them moving apart. An M12 12.9 grade cap head screw could go in there with an ali plug pushed in aferwards to hide the hole that would be needed. We both also agreed that although it was 'unlikely' to fail any time soon, it was an unknown in terms of running and it would be better to try and do something in the way of support while the crosshead was off and the babbitting was being done. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 03:10:22 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:10:22 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Drawbar/Turntable Trailer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10 February 2011 21:18, Listerdiesel wrote: > A few of you may remember our questions regarding the brakes that we > were going to use on the new trailer/RV that we are building. The machining of the main pivot pin and associated pieces is almost finished, we drop two bits down to a friend for the holes to be milled tomorrow, pictures of the pin and other parts here: Main pivot pin at the top, bottom cup plate on the bottom L/H, safety cap mid bottom, thrust bearing housing right bottom. [img]http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer46.jpg[/img] Part-machined blank for the pin cup about to go back on the lathe. [img]http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer47.jpg[/img] Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 03:11:41 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:11:41 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Drawbar/Turntable Trailer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 21 February 2011 11:10, Listerdiesel wrote: > On 10 February 2011 21:18, Listerdiesel wrote: >> A few of you may remember our questions regarding the brakes that we >> were going to use on the new trailer/RV that we are building. > > The machining of the main pivot pin and associated pieces is almost > finished, we drop two bits down to a friend for the holes to be milled > tomorrow, pictures of the pin and other parts here: Try these links without the [img] tags Main pivot pin at the top, bottom cup plate on the bottom L/H, safety cap mid bottom, thrust bearing housing right bottom. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer46.jpg Part-machined blank for the pin cup about to go back on the lathe. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer47.jpg Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From cgandree at mchsi.com Mon Feb 21 04:48:18 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 06:48:18 -0600 (CST) Subject: [SEL] Redneck GoCart In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <906490066.860751298292498440.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Thanks for your response Ralph. Guess I will have do some further research. Curt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Holt" To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 8:32:29 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [SEL] Redneck GoCart Hi Curt, I'm sorry but I do not know. I just stumbled across this video while checking out other cool redneck inventions and stuff on You Tube. In the description this is all it says about it: Builder/operator unknown. This was captured at the Santa Fe Trail Tired Iron Show west of Larned Ks. Oct 11, 2008 Ralph > Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 06:20:22 -0600 > From: cgandree at mchsi.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Redneck GoCart > > Ralph who owns this contraption? Am interested in knowing if the big engine is a Stover? > thanks for sharing, > Curt Andree > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ralph Holt" > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 5:19:15 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: [SEL] Redneck GoCart > > > One of a kind for sure. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULQ6196Tfds&NR=1&feature=fvwp > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Mon Feb 21 19:04:20 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:04:20 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems In-Reply-To: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Good doG! It's been that way for 68 years, three months, 4 days,one hour, and 6 minutes ! Put the damn thing back together and run it! Dave PS, REALLY pisses me off when some young chick thinks that simply because my "cross head" has a wrinkle or two it will not FIRE! PPS, What's a FaceBook? On Feb 20, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Folks, Dolly also has a FaceBook thread going on this topic if > you're on FaceBook. > > --------------------------------- Original Message > --------------------------------- > Subject: Fwd: Crosshead Problems > From: "Jim French" > Date: Sun, February 20, 2011 10:00 am > To: "Arnie Fero" > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Hi Arnie > > Can you do me a favour and post this to the ATIS list? I've tried a > couple of times and it doesn't appear. > > Thanks, > Dolly > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Crosshead Problems > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:54:23 +0000 > From: Jim French > Organisation: French Brothers Insulation > To: ATIS Stationary Engine List > > Hi Folks > > Remember Tillie, the half-breed oilfield engine I bought for Jim's > 40th > birthday? Well, guess what? That was 10 years ago! Now we're hoping > to take her to Nuenen this year, but a problem has arisen. > When we got Tillie, the babbitt on the crosshead was thin and worn, so > going to Nuenen has inspired Jim to re-do the babbitt. Today, he > stripped the crosshead down but when he started warming everything up, > degreasing and drying it out before attempting pouring the molten > babbitt, he spotted a tiny line of oil coming out of the main > bearing as > it warmed up, so the project has been halted. What now? Before going > any further, advice and suggestions will be most welcome. > And, just out of curiousity, how was this bearing machined when new, > because it can't be rotated and it appears to be one single casting? > Anyway, please take a look at the pictures > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/crosshead.htm > Thanks for all and any input! > > Jim& Dolly > > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bakermonitortest at hotmail.com Tue Feb 22 13:41:49 2011 From: bakermonitortest at hotmail.com (Devin Holland) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:41:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems In-Reply-To: References: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>, Message-ID: Dave this is facebook at its best I think. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=75750620328 Devin Holland > From: rotigel at me.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:04:20 -0500 > CC: helen at insulate.co.uk > Subject: Re: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems > > Good doG! It's been that way for 68 years, three months, 4 days,one > hour, and 6 minutes ! Put the damn thing back together and run it! > Dave > PS, REALLY pisses me off when some young chick thinks that simply > because my "cross head" has a wrinkle or two it will not FIRE! > PPS, What's a FaceBook? > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Crosshead Problems > > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:54:23 +0000 > > From: Jim French > > Organisation: French Brothers Insulation > > To: ATIS Stationary Engine List > > > > Hi Folks > > > > Remember Tillie, the half-breed oilfield engine I bought for Jim's > > 40th > > birthday? Well, guess what? That was 10 years ago! Now we're hoping > > to take her to Nuenen this year, but a problem has arisen. > > When we got Tillie, the babbitt on the crosshead was thin and worn, so > > going to Nuenen has inspired Jim to re-do the babbitt. Today, he > > stripped the crosshead down but when he started warming everything up, > > degreasing and drying it out before attempting pouring the molten > > babbitt, he spotted a tiny line of oil coming out of the main > > bearing as > > it warmed up, so the project has been halted. What now? Before going > > any further, advice and suggestions will be most welcome. > > And, just out of curiousity, how was this bearing machined when new, > > because it can't be rotated and it appears to be one single casting? > > Anyway, please take a look at the pictures > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/crosshead.htm > > Thanks for all and any input! > > > > Jim& Dolly > > > > -- > > Jim French > > fbi at insulate.co.uk > > http://www.insulate.co.uk > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Tue Feb 22 19:39:10 2011 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:39:10 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Belated birthday Message-ID: <20110222.193931.946.159867@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> Just a little late but, happy birthday to Peter Forbes. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ $65/Hr Job - 25 Openings Part-Time job ($20-$65/hr). Requirements: Home Internet Access http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d6481b01313e4039e0st06vuc From oldironnut at windstream.net Tue Feb 22 05:57:30 2011 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 08:57:30 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems In-Reply-To: References: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <04036320-06EA-4C0D-9E34-ACA0A3768BBF@windstream.net> On Feb 21, 2011, at 10:04 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > Good doG! It's been that way for 68 years, three months, 4 days,one > hour, and 6 minutes ! Put the damn thing back together and run it! > Dave I thought it had been like that for 69 years, 6 months, 9 days, 6 hours and 9 minutes! Mike From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Feb 23 05:13:31 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:13:31 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems In-Reply-To: <04036320-06EA-4C0D-9E34-ACA0A3768BBF@windstream.net> References: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <04036320-06EA-4C0D-9E34-ACA0A3768BBF@windstream.net> Message-ID: On Feb 22, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Michael Tucker wrote > > > I thought it had been like that for 69 years, 6 months, 9 days, 6 hours and 9 minutes! > > Mike Jim now has the problem licked. From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Feb 23 08:08:30 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:08:30 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems In-Reply-To: References: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <04036320-06EA-4C0D-9E34-ACA0A3768BBF@windstream.net> Message-ID: <14de621a31a1cf9848df5395d6d7d4d4.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> GROAN..... On Wed, February 23, 2011 8:13 am, Rob Skinner wrote: > On Feb 22, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Michael Tucker wrote >> I thought it had been like that for 69 years, 6 months, 9 days, 6 hours and 9 >> minutes! >> > > Jim now has the problem licked. From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Feb 23 09:26:30 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:26:30 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 83, Issue 18 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110223192410.00e0bc70@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 07:00 PM 23/02/2011, you wrote: >Message: 5 >Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:08:30 -0500 >From: "Arnie Fero" >Subject: Re: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems >GROAN..... >On Wed, February 23, 2011 8:13 am, Rob Skinner wrote: > > On Feb 22, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Michael Tucker wrote > >> I thought it had been like that for 69 years, 6 months, 9 days, 6 > hours and 9 > >> minutes! > > Jim now has the problem licked. I bet that went over many heads !! :-) Jerry From andyglines at hotmail.com Wed Feb 23 19:34:25 2011 From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:34:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] crosshead problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dave might be right about the crack being old and not a big problem. I'm not so sure. If the wristpin were to fail it would probably be sudden and catastrophic. First have it magnafluxed (magnetic particle inspection) to determine the extent of the crack and to check for other cracks. I think that I would look into having the crack welded up then remachine the wristpin. From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Feb 24 17:08:13 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:08:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] it's true Message-ID: <02d601cbd488$7a8f17f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Yes fellow Listers, it's true. My much older, crabbier, geezerly brother Steve (aka, the bad cloistered oyster Royster) turns 60 tomorrow. Please feel free to remind himof it often in any way you feel appropriate. He may not thank you, but I sure will. Best to you always, Mike From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Thu Feb 24 17:43:52 2011 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:43:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] it's true Message-ID: <16f532.7ac36e1e.3a986358@aol.com> Happy 65th birthday Steve. If I would have known this I would have sent you some Viagra. Kevin K KK In a message dated 2/24/2011 8:16:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mr at carolina.rr.com writes: Yes fellow Listers, it's true. My much older, crabbier, geezerly brother Steve (aka, the bad cloistered oyster Royster) turns 60 tomorrow. Please feel free to remind himof it often in any way you feel appropriate. He may not thank you, but I sure will. Best to you always, Mike _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Feb 24 21:47:43 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 00:47:43 -0500 Subject: [SEL] it's true In-Reply-To: <02d601cbd488$7a8f17f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> References: <02d601cbd488$7a8f17f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: <3a948ebfef08e98dc7b6da9a70022158.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> HOLY CRAP!! Well THAT explains a lot. I knew he was a crusty ol' fart; but 60? JEEZE! That's OLD. I guess this means we'll need to get used to the clomp-clomp sound of his walker all summer at the shows. And he'll probably be loading up the trash cans with Depends instead of beer bottles. Ah well, it happens to all of us eventually. HAPPY BIRTHDAY STEVE!! On Thu, February 24, 2011 8:08 pm, Mike Royster wrote: > Yes fellow Listers, it's true. My much older, crabbier, geezerly brother Steve > (aka, the bad cloistered oyster Royster) turns 60 tomorrow. Please feel free to > remind himof it often in any way you feel appropriate. He may not thank you, but I > sure will. > > Best to you always, > > Mike From rotigel at me.com Fri Feb 25 08:12:50 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:12:50 -0500 Subject: [SEL] crosshead problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Come on Andy! Where the hell is your sense of adventure? Dave On Feb 23, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Andy Glines wrote: > > Dave might be right about the crack being old and not a big > problem. I'm not so sure. If the wristpin were to fail it would > probably be sudden and catastrophic. First have it magnafluxed > (magnetic particle inspection) to determine the extent of the crack > and to check for other cracks. I think that I would look into > having the crack welded up then remachine the wristpin. From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Feb 25 08:59:40 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:59:40 -0800 Subject: [SEL] crosshead problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The adventure would be machining the crosshead pin after it was welded. Rob > > Come on Andy! Where the hell is your sense of adventure? > Dave > On Feb 23, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Andy Glines wrote: > >> Dave might be right about the crack being old and not a big >> problem. I'm not so sure. If the wristpin were to fail it would >> probably be sudden and catastrophic. First have it magnafluxed >> (magnetic particle inspection) to determine the extent of the crack >> and to check for other cracks. I think that I would look into >> having the crack welded up then remachine the wristpin. From kosh at ncweb.com Fri Feb 25 08:59:43 2011 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:59:43 -0500 Subject: [SEL] crosshead problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20110225115727.0bf237c0@ncweb.com> How do you remachine a cast-in-place wristpin? Dave Merchant At 10:34 PM 2/23/2011, you wrote: >Dave might be right about the crack being old and not a big problem. I'm >not so sure. If the wristpin were to fail it would probably be sudden and >catastrophic. First have it magnafluxed (magnetic particle inspection) to >determine the extent of the crack and to check for other cracks. I think >that I would look into having the crack welded up then remachine the >wristpin. >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline." - Prof. Phil Jones - Director, Climatic Research Unit - School of Environmental Sciences - University of East Anglia - Norwich, UK - To: Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley, Malcolm Hughes From rwenig2 at xplornet.com Fri Feb 25 10:07:14 2011 From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:07:14 -0700 Subject: [SEL] crosshead problems In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20110225115727.0bf237c0@ncweb.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20110225115727.0bf237c0@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <4D67EFD2.8040907@xplornet.com> I'm sure there are enough machinists on the list who would have spoken up by now on how to machine a cast-in-place wristpin. A special cutter similar to the in block crankshaft cutter Roland posted a link to might work after the bulk of the weld bead is ground or filed down to size. I think that leaves only one method left. That is, to do it by hand with a file and emery cloth but that would be a very tedious process. Rupert On 2/25/2011 9:59 AM, Dave Merchant wrote: > How do you remachine a cast-in-place wristpin? > > Dave Merchant > > > At 10:34 PM 2/23/2011, you wrote: > >> Dave might be right about the crack being old and not a big problem. I'm >> not so sure. If the wristpin were to fail it would probably be sudden and >> catastrophic. First have it magnafluxed (magnetic particle inspection) to >> determine the extent of the crack and to check for other cracks. I think >> that I would look into having the crack welded up then remachine the >> wristpin. >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Dave Merchant > kosh at nesys.com > dmerchant at layerzero.com > > http://www.nesys.com > http://www.nesys.org > YouTube: SteamCrane > > "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps > to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) > and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline." > - Prof. Phil Jones > - Director, Climatic Research Unit > - School of Environmental Sciences > - University of East Anglia > - Norwich, UK > - To: Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley, Malcolm Hughes > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > -- yvt Rupert Wenig Camrose, Alberta, Canada. email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com http://users.xplornet.com/~rwenig/Home/ From rotigel at me.com Fri Feb 25 16:51:15 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:51:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems In-Reply-To: <04036320-06EA-4C0D-9E34-ACA0A3768BBF@windstream.net> References: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <04036320-06EA-4C0D-9E34-ACA0A3768BBF@windstream.net> Message-ID: <9EC79A79-13B6-465D-B0FF-CB6EF8525C48@me.com> Gollleeey! Time flys when you are having FUN! Dave On Feb 22, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Michael Tucker wrote: > On Feb 21, 2011, at 10:04 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > >> Good doG! It's been that way for 68 years, three months, 4 days,one >> hour, and 6 minutes ! Put the damn thing back together and run it! >> Dave > > I thought it had been like that for 69 years, 6 months, 9 days, 6 > hours and 9 minutes! > > Mike From tchristoff at earthlink.net Fri Feb 25 20:04:28 2011 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:04:28 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [SEL] it's true Message-ID: <14747854.1298693068218.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Happy Birthday Steve, the Good Brother. Tim -----Original Message----- >From: Arnie Fero >Sent: Feb 24, 2011 11:47 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] it's true > > >On Thu, February 24, 2011 8:08 pm, Mike Royster wrote: >> Yes fellow Listers, it's true. My much older, crabbier, geezerly brother Steve >> (aka, the bad cloistered oyster Royster) turns 60 tomorrow. Please feel free to >> remind himof it often in any way you feel appropriate. He may not thank you, but I >> sure will. >> >> Best to you always, >> >> Mike > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Feb 26 05:45:54 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:45:54 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Tillie Crosshead Babbitt Update (from Dolly) Message-ID: <9ea94c0ca164287d1a275231c7de7026.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> So, having had a lot of advice, for now Jim is going to re-do the babbitt. The journal has been mag tested (updated photos are here http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/crosshead.htm ), lots of photos for reference taken so when it's run for a while he can do another inspection and see if there are any changes. Thanks for all the input, it's been most useful. Dolly & Jim. -- Helen French helen at insulate.co.uk FBI Sig http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.dollyfrench.com/ http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm http://freespace.virgin.net/french.bros/ From steve_royster at hotmail.com Sat Feb 26 07:01:35 2011 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:01:35 -0500 Subject: [SEL] it's true In-Reply-To: <14747854.1298693068218.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <14747854.1298693068218.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Hi Tim, Thanks! glad you are the smart Christoff! Steve > Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:04:28 -0600 > From: tchristoff at earthlink.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] it's true > > Happy Birthday Steve, the Good Brother. > > Tim > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Arnie Fero > >Sent: Feb 24, 2011 11:47 PM > >To: The SEL email discussion list > >Subject: Re: [SEL] it's true > > > > > >On Thu, February 24, 2011 8:08 pm, Mike Royster wrote: > >> Yes fellow Listers, it's true. My much older, crabbier, geezerly brother Steve > >> (aka, the bad cloistered oyster Royster) turns 60 tomorrow. Please feel free to > >> remind himof it often in any way you feel appropriate. He may not thank you, but I > >> sure will. > >> > >> Best to you always, > >> > >> Mike > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Tim Christoff > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Sat Feb 26 08:19:14 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:19:14 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Tillie Crosshead Babbitt Update (from Dolly) In-Reply-To: <9ea94c0ca164287d1a275231c7de7026.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <9ea94c0ca164287d1a275231c7de7026.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <0BF9AA06-A9B2-4618-90B8-210AE4A86AE2@rustyiron.com> > So, having had a lot of advice, for now Jim is going to re-do the babbitt. > The journal has been mag tested (updated photos are here > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/crosshead.htm ), lots of photos for > reference taken so when it's run for a while he can do another inspection > and see if there are any changes. > > Thanks for all the input, it's been most useful. > > Dolly & Jim. Jim, Glad it worked out without any difficulties. Keep the pictures coming. There's one thing where I have to call you out. Pouring babbitt without even safety glasses? WTF? Dolly, Safety glasses can be had for two quid. Buy a case and charge 'em to and FBI job. From rob at rustyiron.com Sat Feb 26 10:01:23 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:01:23 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Tillie Crosshead Babbitt Update (from Dolly) In-Reply-To: <4D69316F.3030609@insulate.co.uk> References: <9ea94c0ca164287d1a275231c7de7026.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <0BF9AA06-A9B2-4618-90B8-210AE4A86AE2@rustyiron.com> <4D69316F.3030609@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: On Feb 26, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Jim French wrote: > Daresay this won't show up on the list but I'll give it a try! > > Er .... I'm not the safety officer, just the photographer. > And at least the other "top of the list" job wasn't being done, which is stripping out the Champ back axle which involves removing the petrol tank. Tom said he didn't want to start on that job while the torches were out! > > Dolly Well at least you have ONE smart worker in the shop. Give the lad an extra portion of porridge tonight. My life has been a serious of one explosion after another, and it was only after a babbitt incident that I decided that glasses were the bare minimum when handling molten metal. From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Feb 26 11:33:23 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:33:23 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Tillie Crosshead Babbitt Update (from Dolly) In-Reply-To: <0BF9AA06-A9B2-4618-90B8-210AE4A86AE2@rustyiron.com> References: <9ea94c0ca164287d1a275231c7de7026.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <0BF9AA06-A9B2-4618-90B8-210AE4A86AE2@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: GOOD GRIEF!! WTF indeed!! Definitely the safety glasses; and how 'bout a face shield and welding gloves? BTW, the finished product looks fantastic! On Sat, February 26, 2011 11:19 am, Rob Skinner wrote: > >> So, having had a lot of advice, for now Jim is going to re-do the babbitt. >> The journal has been mag tested (updated photos are here >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/crosshead.htm ), lots of photos for >> reference taken so when it's run for a while he can do another inspection >> and see if there are any changes. >> >> Thanks for all the input, it's been most useful. >> Dolly & Jim. > > Jim, > Glad it worked out without any difficulties. Keep the pictures coming. > There's one thing where I have to call you out. > Pouring babbitt without even safety glasses? WTF? > > Dolly, > Safety glasses can be had for two quid. Buy a case and charge 'em to and FBI job. From rotigel at me.com Sun Feb 27 18:36:47 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:36:47 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Tillie Crosshead Babbitt Update (from Dolly) In-Reply-To: <9ea94c0ca164287d1a275231c7de7026.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <9ea94c0ca164287d1a275231c7de7026.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <3C11C82A-29CA-4B53-9E4E-9958652BC311@me.com> The babbitt "redo" looks GREAT. I really liked the part of the description that said that Jim was going to put the jounal back on AS IS-- BECAUSE IT'S OK! Just too damn bad that someone didn't say that in the begining--sure as hell would have saved a LOT of trouble! Dave PS, BOOKS, SCHOOL,EAT! On Feb 26, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > So, having had a lot of advice, for now Jim is going to re-do the babbitt. > The journal has been mag tested (updated photos are here > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/crosshead.htm ), lots of photos for > reference taken so when it's run for a while he can do another inspection > and see if there are any changes. > > Thanks for all the input, it's been most useful. > > Dolly & Jim. > > > > -- > > Helen French > > helen at insulate.co.uk > > FBI Sig > > http://www.insulate.co.uk > > http://www.dollyfrench.com/ > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > > http://freespace.virgin.net/french.bros/ > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Feb 28 18:35:00 2011 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:35:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] it's true In-Reply-To: <16f532.7ac36e1e.3a986358@aol.com> References: <16f532.7ac36e1e.3a986358@aol.com> Message-ID: Kevin , Obviously my brother has filled your head with lies! I'm only 60 fer crying out loud, ps send the Viagra anyway. Thanks , Steve > From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com > Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:43:52 -0500 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] it's true > > Happy 65th birthday Steve. If I would have known this I would have sent > you some Viagra. > Kevin K > KK > > > In a message dated 2/24/2011 8:16:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > mr at carolina.rr.com writes: > > Yes fellow Listers, it's true. My much older, crabbier, geezerly brother > Steve (aka, the bad cloistered oyster Royster) turns 60 tomorrow. Please > feel free to remind himof it often in any way you feel appropriate. He may > not thank you, but I sure will. > > Best to you always, > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Mon Feb 28 18:51:10 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:51:10 -0500 Subject: [SEL] it's true In-Reply-To: References: <16f532.7ac36e1e.3a986358@aol.com> Message-ID: <2D998C93-A0FD-4AA1-89B6-0E62F7C55F7C@me.com> Merry X-mas Steve! Dave On Feb 28, 2011, at 9:35 PM, Steve Royster wrote: > > Kevin , Obviously my brother has filled your head with lies! I'm only 60 fer crying out loud, ps send the Viagra anyway. Thanks , Steve > >> From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com >> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:43:52 -0500 >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: Re: [SEL] it's true >> >> Happy 65th birthday Steve. If I would have known this I would have sent >> you some Viagra. >> Kevin K >> KK >> >> >> In a message dated 2/24/2011 8:16:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> mr at carolina.rr.com writes: >> >> Yes fellow Listers, it's true. My much older, crabbier, geezerly brother >> Steve (aka, the bad cloistered oyster Royster) turns 60 tomorrow. Please >> feel free to remind himof it often in any way you feel appropriate. He may >> not thank you, but I sure will. >> >> Best to you always, >> >> Mike >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From blcksmth at wcnet.org Mon Feb 28 19:02:21 2011 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:02:21 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Acme engine at auction in April In-Reply-To: References: <16f532.7ac36e1e.3a986358@aol.com> Message-ID: <619D48A8CD354AD1A4459B0AE0038195@Eagle> My brother-in-law is having an auction April 25 near Gibsonburg, Ohio. On the auction will be a 16hp Acme Sucker Rod engine - predecessor to S. M. Jones - Toledo, Ohio - serial #541. It is still in the power building and was last run about 1990 to pump oil. The connecting rod was disconnected and the flywheels belted to a modern engine for a while after that time. The cylinder/piston was lubricated at that time also. All the parts should be there. The sale bill will be listed at www.wcnet.org/~kbradley but it is not there yet. Bob Willman The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW Bowling Green, Ohio The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Tue Feb 1 19:32:05 2011 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:32:05 +1100 Subject: [SEL] QLD Tropical Cyclone Warning: Cape Melville to Sarina & Inland In-Reply-To: <000301cbc1f5$6f7a85c0$4e6f9140$@net.au> References: <000301cbc1f5$6f7a85c0$4e6f9140$@net.au> Message-ID: <7AA12BAB3E774FC3BB8D7636550E1166@KerryPC> Check out the size of this baby compared to the map of USA. Button down Ian http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/floodrelief/how-cyclone-yasi-compares-around-the-world/story-fn7ik2te-1225998762870 Kerry Morris Lithgow NSW Oz www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/ From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Tue Feb 1 21:55:03 2011 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:55:03 +1100 Subject: [SEL] OT Want to watch the developing QLD cyclone? Message-ID: <018101cbc29d$bce1cdc0$36a56940$@steamengine.com.au> Hi all, I have my own weather station connected to weather underground. I've been watching things slowly unfold on weather stations that belong to people like me who live in the affected area (I don't - I'm 2500km south). If you want to watch the readings from all these weather stations take a look at this map: http://tinyurl.com/4lwlrq5 It's mostly fairly quiet at the moment but some places are getting winds steady around 50 - 60 km/h expecting up to 300 km/h. I imagine these weather stations will disappear as the power fails later tonight. If you want to watch the moment that the government Willis Island radar weather station was smashed see this one: http://www.theweatherchaser.com/radar-loop/IDR412-willis-island/2011-02-01-0 4/2011-02-02-04 Note if for some reason you don't like TinyURL then here is the original: http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/?lat=-21.08450 &lon=147.59033&zoom=6&type=hyb&units=metric&rad=1&rad.num=1&rad.spd=25&rad.o pa=70&rad.stm=0&rad.type=N0R&rad.type2=&rad.smo=1&rad.mrg=0&wxsn=1&wxsn.mode =tw&svr=0&cams=0&sat=0&riv=0&mm=0&hur=0&fire=0&tor=0&ndfd=0&pix=0&dir=0&ads= 0&ib=1&tfk=0&ski=0 Regards Paul From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Feb 2 03:47:30 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 06:47:30 EST Subject: [SEL] QLD Tropical Cyclone Warning: Cape Melville to Sarina & Inland Message-ID: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> In a message dated 2/1/2011 10:39:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, ozengine at optusnet.com.au writes: Check out the size of this baby compared to the map of USA. Wow Kerry, that is an impressive storm! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From curt at rustyiron.com Wed Feb 2 09:33:38 2011 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:33:38 -0700 Subject: [SEL] QLD Tropical Cyclone Warning: Cape Melville to Sarina & Inland In-Reply-To: <7AA12BAB3E774FC3BB8D7636550E1166@KerryPC> References: <000301cbc1f5$6f7a85c0$4e6f9140$@net.au> <7AA12BAB3E774FC3BB8D7636550E1166@KerryPC> Message-ID: Kerry, Looks like about the same size as the snow storm hitting the mid-west and NE right now :-) You guys expecting any rain in Lithgow from this? Curt > Check out the size of this baby compared to the map of USA. > > Button down Ian > > http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/floodrelief/how-cyclone-yasi-compares-around-the-world/story-fn7ik2te-1225998762870 From curt at rustyiron.com Wed Feb 2 10:11:07 2011 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:11:07 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Alfa DeLaval In-Reply-To: <20110120224446.ECF949519@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20110120224446.ECF949519@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <344979ab29cecf549fea733b85921654.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Thank you Mark. Yeah it's been a long time in replying, but I'm not checking the SEL email too often these days. Way too much going on here at work. Curt > Hi Curt, Most likely your engine was built by Lauson for DeLaval. > The Lauson Frost King and the Delaval are identical in most cases. Mark > > > At 03:59 PM 1/20/2011, you wrote: >>Guys, >>Been a while since I've posted anything on the SEL. >> >>Any Alfa DeLaval experts out there? I'm curious to know where their >>engines were made. Did Alfa DeLeval make their own engines, or were they >>rebadged engines of some other manufacturer? >> >>I'm working on a Alfa Laval heat exchanger and I'm curious about how the >>engine history fits into the company. The history posted on the company >>website completely omits the engine portion of the business. That history >>focuses on the milk separating equipment. >> >>Curt Holland >>Bessemer City, NC >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Mark Shulaw > 454 County Road 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Wed Feb 2 12:25:26 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 15:25:26 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: [AT] OT 1913 Harley References: <5.2.0.9.0.20110202125938.0bcb0980@ncweb.com> Message-ID: > > >> I figured some of you riding out the snow and ice would enjoy >> watching this. >> >> >> http://www.fark.com/cgi/vidplayer.pl?IDLink=5734912 >> >> Charlie From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Wed Feb 2 14:33:06 2011 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 09:33:06 +1100 Subject: [SEL] QLD Tropical Cyclone Warning: Cape Melville to Sarina & Inland In-Reply-To: References: <000301cbc1f5$6f7a85c0$4e6f9140$@net.au><7AA12BAB3E774FC3BB8D7636550E1166@KerryPC> Message-ID: <87979BACC21C4EE79EA97CB3F311E737@KerryPC> G'Day Curt Seen the new snow storm on TV, the USA are certainly coping it this year with snow. To far away but they are saying that the Cyclone that was a cat 5 (the largest) when it crossed the land is now a cat 2 and will travel at least 600miles inland. reports coming in that 90% of buildings have major damage at ground zero but at least no reported deaths at this stage Kerry > Looks like about the same size as the snow storm hitting the mid-west and > NE right now :-) > You guys expecting any rain in Lithgow from this? > Curt From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Wed Feb 2 15:40:17 2011 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:40:17 +1100 Subject: [SEL] OT. Allis Chalmers Tractor Age Message-ID: <83AF70F21E454AC8AFF2520D205E7128@BrianPC> OT. Allis Chalmers Tractor Age Can any list member help me to find out the age of my fathers B model tractor ,No. 3574 or direct me to a site that may help. My Dad bought the Allis in 1956, after his Death in 1971 the tractor went in to storage until my son David managed to buy it back in 2006 along with some of his Engines. 1956 photo show my Dad & Allis, Tractor is in still original condition. Brian Watts Melbourne Australia (03)97266147 http://www.youtube.com/user/brianvwatts From George_Best at adp.com Wed Feb 2 15:58:07 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:58:07 -0600 Subject: [SEL] OT. Allis Chalmers Tractor Age In-Reply-To: <83AF70F21E454AC8AFF2520D205E7128@BrianPC> References: <83AF70F21E454AC8AFF2520D205E7128@BrianPC> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4E21A644@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> 1939 -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Brian Watts Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 3:40 PM To: Staqtionary Engine List; Stationary Engine List Subject: [SEL] OT. Allis Chalmers Tractor Age OT. Allis Chalmers Tractor Age Can any list member help me to find out the age of my fathers B model tractor ,No. 3574 or direct me to a site that may help. My Dad bought the Allis in 1956, after his Death in 1971 the tractor went in to storage until my son David managed to buy it back in 2006 along with some of his Engines. 1956 photo show my Dad & Allis, Tractor is in still original condition. Brian Watts Melbourne Australia (03)97266147 http://www.youtube.com/user/brianvwatts This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From frappi at wcoil.com Wed Feb 2 15:59:35 2011 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 18:59:35 -0500 Subject: [SEL] QLD Tropical Cyclone Warning: Cape Melville to Sarina & Inland In-Reply-To: <87979BACC21C4EE79EA97CB3F311E737@KerryPC> References: <000301cbc1f5$6f7a85c0$4e6f9140$@net.au> <7AA12BAB3E774FC3BB8D7636550E1166@KerryPC> <87979BACC21C4EE79EA97CB3F311E737@KerryPC> Message-ID: <20110202235932.CEB3A9543@smtp.wcoil.com> I sure am glad we only have to cope with tornados and snow storms in this region. Not the wide spread devastation of a hurricane or cyclone. Bad as a snow storm is it does not tear everything up and spread it to the four corners of the world and drown you in the process. I'll take the snow storms. Mark At 05:33 PM 2/2/2011, you wrote: >G'Day Curt >Seen the new snow storm on TV, the USA are certainly coping it this year >with snow. > >To far away but they are saying that the Cyclone that was a cat 5 (the >largest) when it crossed the land is now a cat 2 and will travel at least >600miles inland. >reports coming in that 90% of buildings have major damage at ground zero but >at least no reported deaths at this stage > >Kerry > > > Looks like about the same size as the snow storm hitting the mid-west and > > NE right now :-) > > You guys expecting any rain in Lithgow from this? > > Curt Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From George_Best at adp.com Wed Feb 2 15:58:43 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:58:43 -0600 Subject: [SEL] OT. Allis Chalmers Tractor Age In-Reply-To: <83AF70F21E454AC8AFF2520D205E7128@BrianPC> References: <83AF70F21E454AC8AFF2520D205E7128@BrianPC> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4E21A649@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Oops! I meant 1938. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Brian Watts Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 3:40 PM To: Staqtionary Engine List; Stationary Engine List Subject: [SEL] OT. Allis Chalmers Tractor Age OT. Allis Chalmers Tractor Age Can any list member help me to find out the age of my fathers B model tractor ,No. 3574 or direct me to a site that may help. My Dad bought the Allis in 1956, after his Death in 1971 the tractor went in to storage until my son David managed to buy it back in 2006 along with some of his Engines. 1956 photo show my Dad & Allis, Tractor is in still original condition. 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From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Feb 3 03:38:23 2011 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 22:38:23 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Austin generator help please Message-ID: <9E96C532AC3941B096E117E4D849635D@PeterPC> Hi All Click on link below, can anyone shed some light on the little Austin generator set, the generator is being restore at the moment. http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/austin/index.htm Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Australia From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu Feb 3 12:48:57 2011 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:48:57 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Warning, Linseed oil Luck In-Reply-To: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> Message-ID: The subject of using Boiled Linseed Oil for a protection finish has been talked about before. Yesterday afternoon I oiled an engine transporter in the shed and later used a rag to wipe of excess Linseed, looked good and as it to hot in the shed that was it. About 11.50 last night the wife woke me to tell me she could smell something burning both at the back and front of the house, when the brain got into gear I tought THE RAG and rushed to the shed. The air outside was full of burning paint smell and opening the shed door the shed was totally full of smelly smoke, the rag was smoldering and the wooden bench top was to hot to touch, several inches away on the bench was a 4 liter plastic bottle of turps. The luck part, The wife was still up reading and had windows opened because of the heat, the breeze carried the smell into the house, I found the rag before it ignited and exploded the plastic bottle of turps. I would have lost the shed and machinery. I knew that on the bottle is "Safety Directions : Soak rags in water after use to prevent spontaneous combustion" but had forgotten that bit and must have just put the rag on the bench when finished. one very lucky day. Kerry Kerry Morris Lithgow NSW Oz www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/ From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Feb 3 13:41:32 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 16:41:32 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Warning, Linseed oil Luck In-Reply-To: References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> Message-ID: G'day Kerry, WOW!! Lucky indeed. I've read those warnings too and have been really good about spreading my rags outside to dry. But I've always wondered what would happen. I'm gonna have to conduct an experiment. What did it take; about six hours? See ya, Arnie PS - I think you need to buy a new engine to compensate for the ones you nearly lost. 8-)) On Thu, February 3, 2011 3:48 pm, Kerry wrote: > The subject of using Boiled Linseed Oil for a protection finish has been > talked about before. > Yesterday afternoon I oiled an engine transporter in the shed and later used > a rag to wipe of excess Linseed, looked good and as it to hot in the shed > that was it. > About 11.50 last night the wife woke me to tell me she could smell something > burning both at the back and front of the house, when the brain got into > gear I tought THE RAG and rushed to the shed. > The air outside was full of burning paint smell and opening the shed door > the shed was totally full of smelly smoke, the rag was smoldering and the > wooden bench top was to hot to touch, several inches away on the bench was a > 4 liter plastic bottle of turps. > The luck part, The wife was still up reading and had windows opened because > of the heat, the breeze carried the smell into the house, I found the rag > before it ignited and exploded the plastic bottle of turps. I would have > lost the shed and machinery. > I knew that on the bottle is "Safety Directions : Soak rags in water after > use to prevent spontaneous combustion" but had forgotten that bit and must > have just put the rag on the bench when finished. > one very lucky day. From russell at ncable.com.au Thu Feb 3 13:54:49 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:54:49 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Warning, Linseed oil Luck In-Reply-To: References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> Message-ID: <8467060E-0C85-4FBB-A386-BE3D5BF570B3@ncable.com.au> Very Lucky Kerry ...... So what are you working on? Arnie you forgot about one thing with your experiment! You need warmth my dear man, it's bloody way to cold at Pitburg to have a experiment in your shed. PS: Good luck with the football On 04/02/2011, at 8:41 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > G'day Kerry, > > WOW!! Lucky indeed. I've read those warnings too and have been really good about > spreading my rags outside to dry. But I've always wondered what would happen. I'm > gonna have to conduct an experiment. What did it take; about six hours? > > See ya, Arnie > > PS - I think you need to buy a new engine to compensate for the ones you nearly > lost. 8-)) > > On Thu, February 3, 2011 3:48 pm, Kerry wrote: >> The subject of using Boiled Linseed Oil for a protection finish has been >> talked about before. >> Yesterday afternoon I oiled an engine transporter in the shed and later used >> a rag to wipe of excess Linseed, looked good and as it to hot in the shed >> that was it. >> About 11.50 last night the wife woke me to tell me she could smell something >> burning both at the back and front of the house, when the brain got into >> gear I tought THE RAG and rushed to the shed. >> The air outside was full of burning paint smell and opening the shed door >> the shed was totally full of smelly smoke, the rag was smoldering and the >> wooden bench top was to hot to touch, several inches away on the bench was a >> 4 liter plastic bottle of turps. >> The luck part, The wife was still up reading and had windows opened because >> of the heat, the breeze carried the smell into the house, I found the rag >> before it ignited and exploded the plastic bottle of turps. I would have >> lost the shed and machinery. >> I knew that on the bottle is "Safety Directions : Soak rags in water after >> use to prevent spontaneous combustion" but had forgotten that bit and must >> have just put the rag on the bench when finished. >> one very lucky day. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Feb 3 15:05:15 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 18:05:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Warning, Linseed oil Luck In-Reply-To: <8467060E-0C85-4FBB-A386-BE3D5BF570B3@ncable.com.au> References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> <8467060E-0C85-4FBB-A386-BE3D5BF570B3@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <4343b2837c2edbdd73b1003e109c1c21.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Thanks mate!! GO STEELERS!! And you're right about the shed. It's too bloody cold to even go out there, let alone conduct any experiments!! On Thu, February 3, 2011 4:54 pm, Russell wrote: > Very Lucky Kerry ...... So what are you working on? > Arnie you forgot about one thing with your experiment! You need warmth my dear man, > it's bloody way to cold at Pitburg to have a experiment in your shed. > > PS: Good luck with the football From rotigel at me.com Thu Feb 3 15:03:21 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:03:21 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Warning, Linseed oil Luck In-Reply-To: <8467060E-0C85-4FBB-A386-BE3D5BF570B3@ncable.com.au> References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> <8467060E-0C85-4FBB-A386-BE3D5BF570B3@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <453A61BE-9505-445C-955B-C407DAA5A5C3@me.com> Thank you Russ, but we don't need "luck." If Big Ben does not rape anyone between now and Sunday WE WIN! Dave PS, Keep in mine (as with OJ) you CAN NOT convict a GREAT US football player of minor crimes! On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Russell wrote: > > PS: Good luck with the football From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Feb 3 15:57:03 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:57:03 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Warning, Linseed oil Luck In-Reply-To: <8467060E-0C85-4FBB-A386-BE3D5BF570B3@ncable.com.au> References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> <8467060E-0C85-4FBB-A386-BE3D5BF570B3@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <18CD8A08-24FC-4003-96C8-E457EE3BF63E@rustyiron.com> On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Russell wrote: > You need warmth my dear man, it's bloody way to cold at Pitburg to have a experiment in your shed. Arnie's plan is to oil himself up with linseed just to keep himself warm. I'll bet Kerry's engine is a darn sight prettier when covered in oil. From rotigel at me.com Thu Feb 3 16:49:16 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:49:16 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austin generator help please In-Reply-To: <9E96C532AC3941B096E117E4D849635D@PeterPC> References: <9E96C532AC3941B096E117E4D849635D@PeterPC> Message-ID: <1259FE3D-E5D9-490C-8CBA-DC79B4355DAA@me.com> Hi Peter, I think you need to put the two parts together before you will get any light. Dave PS, Arnie told me to say that! On Feb 3, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Peter Lowe wrote: > Hi All > > Click on link below, can anyone shed some light on the little Austin > generator set, the generator is being restore at the moment. > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/austin/index.htm > > > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > Australia > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Feb 3 17:47:12 2011 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:47:12 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Austin generator help please In-Reply-To: <1259FE3D-E5D9-490C-8CBA-DC79B4355DAA@me.com> References: <9E96C532AC3941B096E117E4D849635D@PeterPC> <1259FE3D-E5D9-490C-8CBA-DC79B4355DAA@me.com> Message-ID: Good to see you are still alive and kicking Dave, you do not need Arnie to pull your chain ;-)))) Peter Hi Peter, I think you need to put the two parts together before you will get any light. Dave PS, Arnie told me to say that! On Feb 3, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Peter Lowe wrote: > Hi All > > Click on link below, can anyone shed some light on the little Austin > generator set, the generator is being restore at the moment. > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/austin/index.htm > > > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > Australia > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mike17257 at gmail.com Fri Feb 4 01:15:30 2011 From: mike17257 at gmail.com (michael young) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 20:15:30 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Warning, Linseed oil Luck In-Reply-To: References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> Message-ID: Kerry, phew that was close! I hope you thanked your wife - roses, chocolates, be nice for a whole month - what ever it takes. etc. etc. I often have those nagging doubts when I'm back in the house. Y'know when you've been welding or whatever - is there something smoking away ready to go poof??!! So I trundle up the back at 11:00 or whenever to check it out. Michael On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Kerry wrote: > The subject of using Boiled Linseed Oil for a protection finish has been > talked about before. > Yesterday afternoon I oiled an engine transporter in the shed and later > used > a rag to wipe of excess Linseed, looked good and as it to hot in the shed > that was it. > About 11.50 last night the wife woke me to tell me she could smell > something > burning both at the back and front of the house, when the brain got into > gear I tought THE RAG and rushed to the shed. > The air outside was full of burning paint smell and opening the shed door > the shed was totally full of smelly smoke, the rag was smoldering and the > wooden bench top was to hot to touch, several inches away on the bench was > a > 4 liter plastic bottle of turps. > The luck part, The wife was still up reading and had windows opened because > of the heat, the breeze carried the smell into the house, I found the rag > before it ignited and exploded the plastic bottle of turps. I would have > lost the shed and machinery. > I knew that on the bottle is "Safety Directions : Soak rags in water after > use to prevent spontaneous combustion" but had forgotten that bit and must > have just put the rag on the bench when finished. > one very lucky day. > > Kerry > > Kerry Morris > Lithgow NSW Oz > www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/ > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Feb 4 06:23:08 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 09:23:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Warning, Linseed oil Luck In-Reply-To: References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> Message-ID: <4312c4eb8c682c46edb063f5246b6db6.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Kerry, Michael makes an EXCELLENT point here!! Do it!! In fact, do all four!! 8-)) See ya, Arnie On Fri, February 4, 2011 4:15 am, michael young wrote: > > phew that was close! I hope you thanked your wife - roses, chocolates, be > nice for a whole month - what ever it takes. etc. etc. I often have those > nagging doubts when I'm back in the house. Y'know when you've been welding > or whatever - is there something smoking away ready to go poof??!! So I > trundle up the back at 11:00 or whenever to check it out. > > Michael From jlb94 at juno.com Fri Feb 4 07:06:55 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:06:55 GMT Subject: [SEL] Pull your chain ? OT Message-ID: <20110204.100655.4925.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> Hi list - In reading this thread I saw the term, "Pull your chain". Who knows where the term "Pull Your Chain - or - Pull My Chain, came from ? Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "If Dog is man's best friend - (_o_) Man has betrayed his friend." ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] Austin generator help please Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:47:12 +1100 Good to see you are still alive and kicking Dave, you do not need Arnie to pull your chain ;-)))) Peter Hi Peter, I think you need to put the two parts together before you will get any light. Dave PS, Arnie told me to say that! On Feb 3, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Peter Lowe wrote: > Hi All > > Click on link below, can anyone shed some light on the little Austin > generator set, the generator is being restore at the moment. > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/austin/index.htm > > > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > Australia > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ When Banks Compete, You Win! Refi & lower payments today: $400,000 for only $1,687/mo. No SSN required. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d4c1649e90141ea91fst02vuc From kgarcia at rustyiron.com Fri Feb 4 07:13:01 2011 From: kgarcia at rustyiron.com (Kelley Garcia) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:13:01 -0800 Subject: [SEL] new toy Message-ID: hi all, Rob and I have a new addition. To see her in action, go here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCrgTDWPENY hope you enjoy. ******** See ya, Kelley From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Feb 4 08:02:04 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:02:04 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Pull your chain ? OT In-Reply-To: <20110204.100655.4925.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110204.100655.4925.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Here's one... Meaning: To take advantage of someone in an unfair way to do something to annoy someone; to tease or needle someone just to get a reaction from them. Origin: This North American slang originated in the 1980s as an expression for someone who is trying to annoy or get a reaction from someone else. Feisty, formidable Charlotte Whitton, the former mayor of Ottawa, was introduced to the mayor of London, England. He was bedecked in all the medals and chains of his office, while she had only a flower in her lapel. "There was something fitting, about this, wasn?t there," the London mayor asked. "After all, what was Ottawa, a city of 600,000, compared to London, twelve million?" He leaned forward and said most haughtily, ?If I sniff your rose, will you blush?? Charlotte replied, ?And if I pull your chain, will you flush?? On Fri, February 4, 2011 10:06 am, jlb94 at juno.com wrote: > Hi list - > In reading this thread I saw the term, "Pull your chain". > Who knows where the term "Pull Your Chain - or - Pull My Chain, came from ? From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Feb 4 13:45:00 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 08:45:00 +1100 Subject: [SEL] new toy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45A9D166-8400-48DA-98A8-B38C22B1FD2C@ncable.com.au> Kelly some great video work there. Very nice engine thats for sure. So question then; how does it all fit in the cave? It's gonna have to live on the trailer? PS: btw how hard was it for Rob to leave the Campbell in the cave and not the garage? Cheers Russell On 05/02/2011, at 2:13 AM, Kelley Garcia wrote: > hi all, > Rob and I have a new addition. To see her in action, go here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCrgTDWPENY > > hope you enjoy. > > ******** > See ya, > Kelley > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Feb 4 14:23:00 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 09:23:00 +1100 Subject: [SEL] a little on the wet side In-Reply-To: References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> Message-ID: <09DB8125-9333-4B43-9994-977E9DC8DE81@ncable.com.au> A little bit wet here yesterday and the outlook is worse for today:http://www.milduraindependent.com/news/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2268%3Astorms-hit-red-cliffs-203mm-mildura-111mm-of-rain&catid=1%3Anews&Itemid=2 Had 4 inches here in just under 2 hours. Have had another 2 inches over night (9pm to 9am). Not bad if you think our average anual rain fall for this area is 10inches for twelve months! Who would have thought that the local SES would be setting up an evacuation centre in Mildura for a rain event! Just checked my sheds and all the engines are nice and dry :-) Russell From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Fri Feb 4 14:51:23 2011 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:51:23 -0700 Subject: [SEL] a little on the wet side In-Reply-To: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> <09DB8125-9333-4B43-9994-977E9DC8DE81@ncable.com.au> References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> <09DB8125-9333-4B43-9994-977E9DC8DE81@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Wow...someone's gotta pull the plug!! First thing that came to mind, Russell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSz6X5NMXnM Good Luck!! RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 3:23 PM Subject: [SEL] a little on the wet side > A little bit wet here yesterday and the outlook is worse for > today:http://www.milduraindependent.com/news/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2268%3Astorms-hit-red-cliffs-203mm-mildura-111mm-of-rain&catid=1%3Anews&Itemid=2 > > Had 4 inches here in just under 2 hours. Have had another 2 inches over > night (9pm to 9am). Not bad if you think our average anual rain fall for > this area is 10inches for twelve months! Who would have thought that the > local SES would be setting up an evacuation centre in Mildura for a rain > event! Just checked my sheds and all the engines are nice and dry :-) > Russell > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Feb 4 15:01:32 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:01:32 +1100 Subject: [SEL] a little on the wet side In-Reply-To: References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> <09DB8125-9333-4B43-9994-977E9DC8DE81@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Nice Utube Touch there Rick On 05/02/2011, at 9:51 AM, Richard Strobel wrote: > Wow...someone's gotta pull the plug!! > First thing that came to mind, Russell > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSz6X5NMXnM > > > Good Luck!! > RickinMt. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Russell" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 3:23 PM > Subject: [SEL] a little on the wet side > > >> A little bit wet here yesterday and the outlook is worse for >> today:http://www.milduraindependent.com/news/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2268%3Astorms-hit-red-cliffs-203mm-mildura-111mm-of-rain&catid=1%3Anews&Itemid=2 >> >> Had 4 inches here in just under 2 hours. Have had another 2 inches over >> night (9pm to 9am). Not bad if you think our average anual rain fall for >> this area is 10inches for twelve months! Who would have thought that the >> local SES would be setting up an evacuation centre in Mildura for a rain >> event! Just checked my sheds and all the engines are nice and dry :-) >> Russell >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Fri Feb 4 15:25:25 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:25:25 +1100 Subject: [SEL] a little on the wet side In-Reply-To: <09DB8125-9333-4B43-9994-977E9DC8DE81@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: The weather is nuts everywhere at the moment. We are heading for the hottest week ever recorded in Sydney. I thought we might not make it but it is already 35c (95f) here near the coast at 10am. Patrick On 5/2/11 9:23 AM, "Russell" wrote: > A little bit wet here yesterday and the outlook is worse for > today:http://www.milduraindependent.com/news/index.php?option=com_content&view > =article&id=2268%3Astorms-hit-red-cliffs-203mm-mildura-111mm-of-rain&catid=1%3 > Anews&Itemid=2 > > Had 4 inches here in just under 2 hours. Have had another 2 inches over night > (9pm to 9am). Not bad if you think our average anual rain fall for this area > is 10inches for twelve months! Who would have thought that the local SES would > be setting up an evacuation centre in Mildura for a rain event! Just checked > my sheds and all the engines are nice and dry :-) > Russell > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From kgarcia at rustyiron.com Fri Feb 4 18:01:27 2011 From: kgarcia at rustyiron.com (Kelley Garcia) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 18:01:27 -0800 Subject: [SEL] new toy In-Reply-To: <45A9D166-8400-48DA-98A8-B38C22B1FD2C@ncable.com.au> References: <45A9D166-8400-48DA-98A8-B38C22B1FD2C@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: hi Russell, yep, it lives on the trailer in the engine cave for right now. That's OK tho' since she'll be going to most of the shows anyway. as for Rob and the Campbell, Rob's got a new mistress now and can't be bothered with that tired old hunk ;-) ******** See ya, Kelley On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:45 PM, Russell wrote: > Kelly some great video work there. Very nice engine thats for sure. So question then; how does it all fit in the cave? It's gonna have to live on the trailer? > PS: btw how hard was it for Rob to leave the Campbell in the cave and not the garage? > > Cheers Russell > > > > On 05/02/2011, at 2:13 AM, Kelley Garcia wrote: > >> hi all, >> Rob and I have a new addition. To see her in action, go here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCrgTDWPENY >> >> hope you enjoy. >> >> ******** >> See ya, >> Kelley >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From r7734g at hotmail.com Fri Feb 4 18:29:40 2011 From: r7734g at hotmail.com (Ron Gerlach) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 18:29:40 -0800 Subject: [SEL] new toy In-Reply-To: References: , <45A9D166-8400-48DA-98A8-B38C22B1FD2C@ncable.com.au>, Message-ID: Kelley Thanks for the video. It was a joy seeing that beast running. I never cease to be amazed at the quality of the engines in your and Rob's collection. Keep the videos coming. RonG > From: kgarcia at rustyiron.com > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 18:01:27 -0800 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] new toy > > hi Russell, > yep, it lives on the trailer in the engine cave for right now. That's OK tho' since she'll be going to most of the shows anyway. > > as for Rob and the Campbell, Rob's got a new mistress now and can't be bothered with that tired old hunk ;-) > > ******** > See ya, > Kelley > > On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:45 PM, Russell wrote: > > > Kelly some great video work there. Very nice engine thats for sure. So question then; how does it all fit in the cave? It's gonna have to live on the trailer? > > PS: btw how hard was it for Rob to leave the Campbell in the cave and not the garage? > > > > Cheers Russell > > > > > > > > On 05/02/2011, at 2:13 AM, Kelley Garcia wrote: > > > >> hi all, > >> Rob and I have a new addition. To see her in action, go here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCrgTDWPENY > >> > >> hope you enjoy. > >> > >> ******** > >> See ya, > >> Kelley > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Feb 4 18:50:13 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 18:50:13 -0800 Subject: [SEL] new toy In-Reply-To: <45A9D166-8400-48DA-98A8-B38C22B1FD2C@ncable.com.au> References: <45A9D166-8400-48DA-98A8-B38C22B1FD2C@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <29923679-F16C-4AAF-AA6D-F67A253B0F22@rustyiron.com> On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:45 PM, Russell wrote: > Kelly some great video work there. Yeah, that girl is becoming quite the talented videographer. > PS: btw how hard was it for Rob to leave the Campbell in the cave and not the garage? Psh... just another one o' them bum crack motors. It seems everyone down under has one... some folks have two. From russell at ncable.com.au Sat Feb 5 02:10:22 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 21:10:22 +1100 Subject: [SEL] new toy In-Reply-To: References: <45A9D166-8400-48DA-98A8-B38C22B1FD2C@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <1A05A169-09C2-4D82-B6EB-5E0132E5FD9F@ncable.com.au> Well send it back where it came from Kelly, Where it will be properly treasured. On 05/02/2011, at 1:01 PM, Kelley Garcia wrote: > hi Russell, > yep, it lives on the trailer in the engine cave for right now. That's OK tho' since she'll be going to most of the shows anyway. > > as for Rob and the Campbell, Rob's got a new mistress now and can't be bothered with that tired old hunk ;-) > > ******** > See ya, > Kelley > > On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:45 PM, Russell wrote: > >> Kelly some great video work there. Very nice engine thats for sure. So question then; how does it all fit in the cave? It's gonna have to live on the trailer? >> PS: btw how hard was it for Rob to leave the Campbell in the cave and not the garage? >> >> Cheers Russell >> >> >> >> On 05/02/2011, at 2:13 AM, Kelley Garcia wrote: >> >>> hi all, >>> Rob and I have a new addition. To see her in action, go here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCrgTDWPENY >>> >>> hope you enjoy. >>> >>> ******** >>> See ya, >>> Kelley >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From cgandree at mchsi.com Sat Feb 5 04:58:58 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 06:58:58 -0600 (CST) Subject: [SEL] new toy In-Reply-To: <1542020825.8616831296910698177.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <213750855.8616851296910738793.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Hi Kelley, Very nice engine. Will you and Rob be bringing her to Baraboo. Sure would be wonderful additon for the folks to look at! Thanks for sharing, Curt Andree ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelley Garcia" To: "SEL email discussion list" , "Stationary-Engine" Sent: Friday, February 4, 2011 9:13:01 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [SEL] new toy hi all, Rob and I have a new addition. To see her in action, go here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCrgTDWPENY hope you enjoy. ******** See ya, Kelley _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From cgandree at mchsi.com Sat Feb 5 05:09:51 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 07:09:51 -0600 (CST) Subject: [SEL] Fwd: [AT] OT 1913 Harley In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1042246134.8617481296911391627.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Hey, After seeing this very rare vintage cycle reminds of an old coot I know that has a similiar one in the back of his shed. Soon as the snow melts will be paying him a visit. Who knows it may be the same bike and could be bought. thanks for sharing! Curt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" , slick at toltbbs.com Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2011 2:25:26 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [SEL] Fwd: [AT] OT 1913 Harley > > >> I figured some of you riding out the snow and ice would enjoy >> watching this. >> >> >> http://www.fark.com/cgi/vidplayer.pl?IDLink=5734912 >> >> Charlie _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Sat Feb 5 11:05:33 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 14:05:33 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Moving a Barn.....The Nebraska way!!! References: <725471.15651.qm@web161611.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <97EDCE44-F1C9-4A38-B30D-BCF92CD7789A@me.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > Very Interesting to say the least. > > > > > > > > Those Nebraskans > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From jlb94 at juno.com Sat Feb 5 12:19:32 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 20:19:32 GMT Subject: [SEL] Pull your chain ? OT Message-ID: <20110205.151932.644.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> Thanks Arnie for the reply. But - The way I got it was from an old coal miner. They used to have a "Potty Car" in the coal mines similar to a "half-height Porta-John" where the miners could stand and pee or sit and do their business. Now understand that rail tracks are not level in the coal mines and the miners would carry a small length of chain which they laid on the track to stop the "Potty-Car" from rolling away as they did their business. Now - To be a jerk, somone would pull out the chain and his "buddy" would be rolling down the slope of the coal mine. And that's the rest of the story ! Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "If Dog is man's best friend - (_o_) Man has betrayed his friend." ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Arnie Fero" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] Pull your chain ? OT Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:02:04 -0500 Here's one... Meaning: To take advantage of someone in an unfair way to do something to annoy someone; to tease or needle someone just to get a reaction from them. Origin: This North American slang originated in the 1980s as an expression for someone who is trying to annoy or get a reaction from someone else. Feisty, formidable Charlotte Whitton, the former mayor of Ottawa, was introduced to the mayor of London, England. He was bedecked in all the medals and chains of his office, while she had only a flower in her lapel. "There was something fitting, about this, wasn?t there," the London mayor asked. "After all, what was Ottawa, a city of 600,000, compared to London, twelve million?" He leaned forward and said most haughtily, ?If I sniff your rose, will you blush?? Charlotte replied, ?And if I pull your chain, will you flush?? On Fri, February 4, 2011 10:06 am, jlb94 at juno.com wrote: > Hi list - > In reading this thread I saw the term, "Pull your chain". > Who knows where the term "Pull Your Chain - or - Pull My Chain, came from ? _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ $65/Hr Job - 25 Openings Part-Time job ($20-$65/hr). Requirements: Home Internet Access http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d4db12a4844110c08cst04vuc From George_Best at adp.com Mon Feb 7 09:06:58 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 11:06:58 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Warning, Linseed oil Luck In-Reply-To: References: <7ce25.44201b83.3a7a9e52@aol.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4E465575@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Kerry, You were lucky! It's a good reminder for all of us and you can be sure I won't be leaving linseed oil soaked rags near anything combustible. You need to buy Ruth something nice as a reward for saving your shed from going up in flames! George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:49 PM To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Warning, Linseed oil Luck The subject of using Boiled Linseed Oil for a protection finish has been talked about before. Yesterday afternoon I oiled an engine transporter in the shed and later used a rag to wipe of excess Linseed, looked good and as it to hot in the shed that was it. About 11.50 last night the wife woke me to tell me she could smell something burning both at the back and front of the house, when the brain got into gear I tought THE RAG and rushed to the shed. The air outside was full of burning paint smell and opening the shed door the shed was totally full of smelly smoke, the rag was smoldering and the wooden bench top was too hot to touch, several inches away on the bench was a 4 liter plastic bottle of turps. The luck part, The wife was still up reading and had windows opened because of the heat, the breeze carried the smell into the house, I found the rag before it ignited and exploded the plastic bottle of turps. I would have lost the shed and machinery. I knew that on the bottle is "Safety Directions : Soak rags in water after use to prevent spontaneous combustion" but had forgotten that bit and must have just put the rag on the bench when finished. one very lucky day. Kerry Kerry Morris Lithgow NSW Oz www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Feb 7 09:25:00 2011 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 12:25:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Old Iron Man Passing In-Reply-To: <97EDCE44-F1C9-4A38-B30D-BCF92CD7789A@me.com> References: <725471.15651.qm@web161611.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <97EDCE44-F1C9-4A38-B30D-BCF92CD7789A@me.com> Message-ID: <20110207172455.0654F950B@smtp.wcoil.com> Although not a member of the engine list groups his passing should be noted, Steven Fischbach, 53, of Bluffton, died at 5:23 a.m. Sunday at Blanchard Valley Hospital. Arrangements are pending at Chiles-Laman Funeral Home, Bluffton. In leu of flowers memorials to the childrens education fund is requested. Steve was one of the Findlay shows long time behind the scenes workers. He was a dedicated husband to his sweetheart and wife Jacqueline and their three girls the oldest in her first year of College. Although Steve was a FATG he was one of the few that could take it all into the greater picture. He is missed. Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 USA 419.358.5206 From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 13:18:29 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:18:29 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Drawbar/Turntable Trailer Message-ID: A few of you may remember our questions regarding the brakes that we were going to use on the new trailer/RV that we are building. Well things have moved along a tad, we expect to start welding the 6.5 metre (21ft) step-frame chassis next week. Since last year-end we have got together all the bits and pieces that we need, 3 axles, 3.5ton coupling, wheels/tyres and so on. 3 sheets of 21mm (13/16") honeycomb sandwich was collected a few weeks ago for the floor and internal divider, heavy-duty checker plate for where the engine trolley sits and so on. We bought a damaged caravan last weekend to we can break it for the bits we need, shower, cooker/fridge etc etc. Tonight we collected a couple of hundredweight (1cwt = 112lbs) of new 304 and 316 stainless blanks for the front pivot pin and bearing support. Our little 5" lathe would probably baulk at that, especially in 6.75 diameter bar slices, but we were pleasantly surprised at how well it coped. We used a carbide tool, DCMT replaceable tip type, and some high-sulphur (sulfur) cutting oil for when we had to put a 20mm drill through the final 14mm thick blank. We had a fair bit of waste as the slice was 'wonky', but all in all we were pretty please. Pictures of tonight's activities are here: This is the next largest piece, this is for the safety retaining cap on top of the pivot pin. This is 304 stainless and 5.75" diameter. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer29.jpg The interrupted cutting didn't cause any problems, we had a used tip in the holder and it went well. The degree of out of true can be seen in the next two pictures as we gradually bring the face true. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer30.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer33.jpg The tool holder is only 10mm square and the tip is small, pictures following show the tool and tip. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer31.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer32.jpg Eventually it got to the point where we had only a small area left. and then it was gone. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer34.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer35.jpg Turned it over and started on the other side.... http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer36.jpg Had to put a 20mm hole in the centre, which was a bit scary, but a new 10mm pilot (after centre drilling) went through fine, we had some high-sulphur cutting oil to use and it certainly did the job. Even the 20mm drill went through with nice swarf coming out as we drilled. No trouble at all. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer37.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer38.jpg Then we put a bit of M20 studding into the 3-jaw chuck with a nut to hold it behind the jaws, and put the disc on to face the rim. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer39.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer40.jpg I'm going to have a go at one of the larger pieces tomorrow, now that I know the lathe and tooling can cope. Speed was the slowest it would go down to without engaging back gear, it is a 5" centre height Raglan Littlejohn lathe. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rotigel at me.com Thu Feb 10 15:01:52 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:01:52 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Drawbar/Turntable Trailer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39CB1D00-CDD4-43F8-A827-717DA55B92A2@me.com> Well documented Peter! Looking forward to more reports/pictures as progress continues! Dave On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:18 PM, Listerdiesel wrote: > A few of you may remember our questions regarding the brakes that we > were going to use on the new trailer/RV that we are building. > > Well things have moved along a tad, we expect to start welding the 6.5 > metre (21ft) step-frame chassis next week. > > Since last year-end we have got together all the bits and pieces that > we need, 3 axles, 3.5ton coupling, wheels/tyres and so on. > > 3 sheets of 21mm (13/16") honeycomb sandwich was collected a few weeks > ago for the floor and internal divider, heavy-duty checker plate for > where the engine trolley sits and so on. > > We bought a damaged caravan last weekend to we can break it for the > bits we need, shower, cooker/fridge etc etc. > > Tonight we collected a couple of hundredweight (1cwt = 112lbs) of new > 304 and 316 stainless blanks for the front pivot pin and bearing > support. > > Our little 5" lathe would probably baulk at that, especially in 6.75 > diameter bar slices, but we were pleasantly surprised at how well it > coped. We used a carbide tool, DCMT replaceable tip type, and some > high-sulphur (sulfur) cutting oil for when we had to put a 20mm drill > through the final 14mm thick blank. We had a fair bit of waste as the > slice was 'wonky', but all in all we were pretty please. > > Pictures of tonight's activities are here: > > This is the next largest piece, this is for the safety retaining cap > on top of the pivot pin. This is 304 stainless and 5.75" diameter. > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer29.jpg > > The interrupted cutting didn't cause any problems, we had a used tip > in the holder and it went well. The degree of out of true can be seen > in the next two pictures as we gradually bring the face true. > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer30.jpg > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer33.jpg > > The tool holder is only 10mm square and the tip is small, pictures > following show the tool and tip. > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer31.jpg > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer32.jpg > > Eventually it got to the point where we had only a small area left. > and then it was gone. > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer34.jpg > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer35.jpg > > Turned it over and started on the other side.... > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer36.jpg > > Had to put a 20mm hole in the centre, which was a bit scary, but a new > 10mm pilot (after centre drilling) went through fine, we had some > high-sulphur cutting oil to use and it certainly did the job. Even the > 20mm drill went through with nice swarf coming out as we drilled. No > trouble at all. > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer37.jpg > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer38.jpg > > Then we put a bit of M20 studding into the 3-jaw chuck with a nut to > hold it behind the jaws, and put the disc on to face the rim. > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer39.jpg > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer40.jpg > > I'm going to have a go at one of the larger pieces tomorrow, now that > I know the lathe and tooling can cope. Speed was the slowest it would > go down to without engaging back gear, it is a 5" centre height Raglan > Littlejohn lathe. > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Feb 10 15:26:04 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:26:04 EST Subject: [SEL] Drawbar/Turntable Trailer Message-ID: <680fa.4d8b9ee2.3a85ce0c@aol.com> In a message dated 2/10/2011 4:29:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, listerdiesel at gmail.com writes: http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer40.jpg Peter, That is putting the 5 inch lathe thru a good work out. The carbide tooling and good cutting oil sure helps the situation. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 00:25:33 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:25:33 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Drawbar/Turntable Trailer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10 February 2011 21:18, Listerdiesel wrote: > A few of you may remember our questions regarding the brakes that we > were going to use on the new trailer/RV that we are building. > > Well things have moved along a tad, we expect to start welding the 6.5 > metre (21ft) step-frame chassis next week. Here are the previous images with a brief description: New 3.5ton coupling http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer1.jpg Heavy box sections for the trailer front axle pivot, 250 X 100 X 10mm wall http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer2.jpg New 2.75kVA genny http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer3.jpg Refillable LPG cylinder, takes Autogas at regular filling stations, 28.8 litres net http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer4.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer5.jpg Main thrust bearing for the steering pivot, 75mm ID http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer8.jpg Honeycom sandwich sheets for the floor and internal divider, 3.5metre X 2.2metre http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer10.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer11.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer12.jpg Heavy checker plate for the engine trolley to stand on inside, nicely packaged http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer14.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer13.jpg Chassis end of the main steering pivot with one of the two radial bearings http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer15.jpg Looking inside the box section, those bolts are 3/4" UNF http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer16.jpg Both radial thrust bearings loosely assembled to the upper box section http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer17.jpg Upper box section, it is 400mm or 16" long http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer20.jpg Lower box section which forms part of the front axle support. The stainless disc I was turning last evening bolts onto the bottom of this part when finished. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer21.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer20.jpg Section of the drawing for the axle pivot http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer22.jpg Laser-cut stiffeners for the step in the chassis frame, they are 4mm steel http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer23.jpg Laser-cut drawbar hing plates http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer24.jpg Laser-cut gussets, those with holes in carry the engine lashing eyes http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer25.jpg Body support brackets, 40 pces http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer26.jpg M30 X 200 A2 stainless bolts, before being chopped to make the drawbar pivots http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer27.jpg Pivot bolts, waiting for the big 'R' clips so I can get them drilled to size. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer28.jpg That's all for now and brings it up to date as far as pictures go. Here is a pdf file with the main drawing, as of January: http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DRAWBAR1_Model_2.pdf Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jlb94 at juno.com Fri Feb 11 07:08:34 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:08:34 GMT Subject: [SEL] Drawbar/Turntable Trailer Message-ID: <20110211.100834.27655.0@webmail16.vgs.untd.com> Hi Peter, Nice explanation of what you're doing and great pics. Thanks Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "If Dog is man's best friend - (_o_) Man has betrayed his friend." ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Listerdiesel To: The SEL email discussion list Cc: Stationary-Engine Subject: [SEL] Drawbar/Turntable Trailer Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:18:29 +0000 A few of you may remember our questions regarding the brakes that we were going to use on the new trailer/RV that we are building. Well things have moved along a tad, we expect to start welding the 6.5 metre (21ft) step-frame chassis next week. Since last year-end we have got together all the bits and pieces that we need, 3 axles, 3.5ton coupling, wheels/tyres and so on. 3 sheets of 21mm (13/16") honeycomb sandwich was collected a few weeks ago for the floor and internal divider, heavy-duty checker plate for where the engine trolley sits and so on. We bought a damaged caravan last weekend to we can break it for the bits we need, shower, cooker/fridge etc etc. Tonight we collected a couple of hundredweight (1cwt = 112lbs) of new 304 and 316 stainless blanks for the front pivot pin and bearing support. Our little 5" lathe would probably baulk at that, especially in 6.75 diameter bar slices, but we were pleasantly surprised at how well it coped. We used a carbide tool, DCMT replaceable tip type, and some high-sulphur (sulfur) cutting oil for when we had to put a 20mm drill through the final 14mm thick blank. We had a fair bit of waste as the slice was 'wonky', but all in all we were pretty please. Pictures of tonight's activities are here: This is the next largest piece, this is for the safety retaining cap on top of the pivot pin. This is 304 stainless and 5.75" diameter. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer29.jpg The interrupted cutting didn't cause any problems, we had a used tip in the holder and it went well. The degree of out of true can be seen in the next two pictures as we gradually bring the face true. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer30.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer33.jpg The tool holder is only 10mm square and the tip is small, pictures following show the tool and tip. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer31.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer32.jpg Eventually it got to the point where we had only a small area left. and then it was gone. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer34.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer35.jpg Turned it over and started on the other side.... http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer36.jpg Had to put a 20mm hole in the centre, which was a bit scary, but a new 10mm pilot (after centre drilling) went through fine, we had some high-sulphur cutting oil to use and it certainly did the job. Even the 20mm drill went through with nice swarf coming out as we drilled. No trouble at all. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer37.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer38.jpg Then we put a bit of M20 studding into the 3-jaw chuck with a nut to hold it behind the jaws, and put the disc on to face the rim. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer39.jpg http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer40.jpg I'm going to have a go at one of the larger pieces tomorrow, now that I know the lathe and tooling can cope. Speed was the slowest it would go down to without engaging back gear, it is a 5" centre height Raglan Littlejohn lathe. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ $65/Hr Job - 25 Openings Part-Time job ($20-$65/hr). Requirements: Home Internet Access http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d55517dd94ac31c7e2st02vuc From mcanady at lilleyinternational.com Fri Feb 11 09:01:45 2011 From: mcanady at lilleyinternational.com (Merton Canady) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:01:45 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Quiet Message-ID: Is the list still alive? Merton From George_Best at adp.com Fri Feb 11 10:11:56 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:11:56 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Quiet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4E73E9AD@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Barely. Not many postings on a daily basis and the percentage of postings with an engine related topic is getting pretty low. Seems at this point it is just a group of people that share a common interest and occasionally post something engine related. I think most of the engine related messages have pretty well switched to SmokStak. The number of people posting to SEL has dwindled down as well. Around 20 people have posted something on SEL so far this year. Could be a bit higher as I've deleted some email messages, but in any case the number of people actually posting is pretty small compared to the lurkers. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Feb 12 03:20:11 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:20:11 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Stainless Bolts In-Reply-To: <276B3133-D95D-4024-90D9-11884933E17F@adam.com.au> References: <276B3133-D95D-4024-90D9-11884933E17F@adam.com.au> Message-ID: On 11 February 2011 22:53, Basson W D wrote: > Hi Peter > > If you are using stainless bolts in a load bearing way please be advised > that they are not High Tensile and you should check that they are going to > be strong enough for the job!!! > > Cheers for now > > Denis Thanks for the comments everyone, the 30mm diameter bolt shanks are used for the drawbar pivot, 2 of them, and are in shear not in tension. Looking at dynamic loadings we should have 300% or more safety factor. They are just pins now, we chopped the threaded bit off and are using 5mm diameter stainless R clips to hold them in place. There is a 30mm ID steel bush in the front axle frame on both sides to take the pin, each bush is 50mm (2") long with grease nipples. Each pin is prevented from rotating by a welded on block against of the the hexagon flats on the head. We use a lot of stainless fasteners at the factory, in fact we are nearly 100% stainless now and keep M2 up to M12 on the shelf. Regular stainless nuts and spring washers aren't a problem, it is Nylocs in stainless that cause most galling problems for us. Our old trailer has has M12 bolts holding the coupling and axles in place and we have not touched them in 12 years, other than the occasional tightness check. Thanks again for the interest. -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Mon Feb 14 20:38:31 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:38:31 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Quiet In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4E73E9AD@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: I am going to be a lot quieter for a while (but hopefully not too long). We have decided it is time to move from our little inner city house to something much more substantial in the suburbs. This will give us more room for our growing boy and finally allow me some space for a workshop. So for the next few months we will be busy getting our place for sale, finding something else, & moving. Patrick Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From service.ka at edwardsmotors.com.au Mon Feb 14 20:51:26 2011 From: service.ka at edwardsmotors.com.au (Chester Smith) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:51:26 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Quiet References: Message-ID: <004b01cbcccc$00cc1300$210110ac@Chester> Hi Patrick, we are in the process of doing this, i have moved from a 1/4 acre block to 10 acres, slowly setting up sheds & my private museum/collection, i still manage to sneak in a bit of engine work, it is also great for the kids, you wont regret it, cheers, Chester. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Livingstone" To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine" Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Quiet >I am going to be a lot quieter for a while (but hopefully not too long). We > have decided it is time to move from our little inner city house to > something much more substantial in the suburbs. This will give us more > room > for our growing boy and finally allow me some space for a workshop. > So for the next few months we will be busy getting our place for sale, > finding something else, & moving. > Patrick > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Tue Feb 15 04:13:48 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 23:13:48 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Quiet In-Reply-To: <004b01cbcccc$00cc1300$210110ac@Chester> Message-ID: Hi Chester, We are not going quite as big but it will be a big change from what we have now. We plan on going from out 2 bedroom place with a land area of about 170sq/m to something with 3 or 4 bedrooms on a 500-600sq/m block with at least a double garage. It will give more room for the little man and his dog and will allow me to keep a couple of big engines at home :) Patrick On 15/2/11 3:51 PM, "Chester Smith" wrote: > Hi Patrick, > we are in the process of doing this, i have moved from a 1/4 acre block to > 10 acres, > slowly setting up sheds & my private museum/collection, i still manage to > sneak in a bit of engine work, > it is also great for the kids, you wont regret it, cheers, > Chester. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick Livingstone" > To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine" > > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 12:38 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Quiet > > >> I am going to be a lot quieter for a while (but hopefully not too long). We >> have decided it is time to move from our little inner city house to >> something much more substantial in the suburbs. This will give us more >> room >> for our growing boy and finally allow me some space for a workshop. >> So for the next few months we will be busy getting our place for sale, >> finding something else, & moving. >> Patrick >> >> >> Patrick M Livingstone >> Leichhardt NSW >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From kelly_reynolds at rocketmail.com Tue Feb 15 19:02:31 2011 From: kelly_reynolds at rocketmail.com (Kelly Reynolds) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:02:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? Message-ID: <210817.45514.qm@web43404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hey gang! Long time no see! Just re-subscribed after a few years off of here! Found a few folks on facebook but need to catch up with some of the old timers! Kelly Reynolds Henderson, Kentucky From maytagtwin at aol.com Tue Feb 15 19:12:16 2011 From: maytagtwin at aol.com (maytagtwin at aol.com) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:12:16 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? In-Reply-To: <210817.45514.qm@web43404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <210817.45514.qm@web43404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CD9B9E72C9F2AB-810-388E2@webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com> Hi Kelly, Welcome back. Yes, it ia a little quiet but usually is this time of year UNLESS there are bouts of cabin fever and the guys are taking crankhandles to each other. I haven't seen the Flame Mistress put on her nomex (or, spandex, which?) suit in some time. Since you have been gone, what engines have you found? Regards, Ron Carroll Clearmont, Missouri -----Original Message----- From: Kelly Reynolds To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Tue, Feb 15, 2011 9:02 pm Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? Hey gang! ong time no see! Just re-subscribed after a few years off of here! Found a ew folks on facebook but need to catch up with some of the old timers! elly Reynolds enderson, Kentucky ______________________________________________ EL mailing list EL at lists.stationary-engine.com ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lew at lewslittlefarm.com Tue Feb 15 19:14:37 2011 From: lew at lewslittlefarm.com (Lew Best) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:14:37 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? In-Reply-To: <210817.45514.qm@web43404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <210817.45514.qm@web43404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00df01cbcd87$af43b440$0dcb1cc0$@com> I'm still here; not very active but I do read most of the posts. Welcome back. Lew near Waco, TX -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 9:03 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? Hey gang! Long time no see! Just re-subscribed after a few years off of here! Found a few folks on facebook but need to catch up with some of the old timers! Kelly Reynolds Henderson, Kentucky _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From service.ka at edwardsmotors.com.au Tue Feb 15 22:52:09 2011 From: service.ka at edwardsmotors.com.au (Chester Smith) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:52:09 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Quiet References: Message-ID: <002901cbcda6$088ec2b0$210110ac@Chester> Patrick, that will be a big change, you wont know what to do with yourself, good luck with the selling & buying, cheers, Chester. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Livingstone" To: "ATIS" Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Quiet > Hi Chester, > We are not going quite as big but it will be a big change from what we > have > now. We plan on going from out 2 bedroom place with a land area of about > 170sq/m to something with 3 or 4 bedrooms on a 500-600sq/m block with at > least a double garage. It will give more room for the little man and his > dog > and will allow me to keep a couple of big engines at home :) > Patrick > > > On 15/2/11 3:51 PM, "Chester Smith" > wrote: > >> Hi Patrick, >> we are in the process of doing this, i have moved from a 1/4 acre block >> to >> 10 acres, >> slowly setting up sheds & my private museum/collection, i still manage to >> sneak in a bit of engine work, >> it is also great for the kids, you wont regret it, cheers, >> Chester. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Patrick Livingstone" >> To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine" >> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 12:38 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Quiet >> >> >>> I am going to be a lot quieter for a while (but hopefully not too long). >>> We >>> have decided it is time to move from our little inner city house to >>> something much more substantial in the suburbs. This will give us more >>> room >>> for our growing boy and finally allow me some space for a workshop. >>> So for the next few months we will be busy getting our place for sale, >>> finding something else, & moving. >>> Patrick >>> >>> >>> Patrick M Livingstone >>> Leichhardt NSW >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Feb 16 03:17:26 2011 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:17:26 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Dave Croft's Birthday Message-ID: Hi all Today is Dave Croft?s Birthday so fill his inbox with birthday wishes, 70 today. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Australia From kelly_reynolds at rocketmail.com Wed Feb 16 04:08:30 2011 From: kelly_reynolds at rocketmail.com (Kelly Reynolds) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 04:08:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? In-Reply-To: <8CD9B9E72C9F2AB-810-388E2@webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com> References: <210817.45514.qm@web43404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8CD9B9E72C9F2AB-810-388E2@webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <329144.61123.qm@web43414.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Thanks Ron! I haven't acquired alot of new toys but do have a few baby ones. No room for flywheels right now but do have some air cooled toys. In fact, back in November a friend from church that works at the local landfill, found me an old tiller with a Clinton engine on it. I finally got it running yesterday. It is complete except for the fuel cap. Other than that there are a few other Clintons, Briggs, & Lausons along with Kimmy's Maytag! Kelly Reynolds Henderson, Kentucky ________________________________ From: "maytagtwin at aol.com" To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 9:12:16 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Is the List still around? Hi Kelly, Welcome back. Yes, it ia a little quiet but usually is this time of year UNLESS there are bouts of cabin fever and the guys are taking crankhandles to each other. I haven't seen the Flame Mistress put on her nomex (or, spandex, which?) suit in some time. Since you have been gone, what engines have you found? Regards, Ron Carroll Clearmont, Missouri -----Original Message----- From: Kelly Reynolds To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Tue, Feb 15, 2011 9:02 pm Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? Hey gang! ong time no see! Just re-subscribed after a few years off of here! Found a ew folks on facebook but need to catch up with some of the old timers! elly Reynolds enderson, Kentucky ______________________________________________ EL mailing list EL at lists.stationary-engine.com ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Wed Feb 16 04:18:55 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:18:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? In-Reply-To: <329144.61123.qm@web43414.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <210817.45514.qm@web43404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8CD9B9E72C9F2AB-810-388E2@webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com> <329144.61123.qm@web43414.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Can we, then, expect to see you at the SIAM Show this year? Dave On Feb 16, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Kelly Reynolds wrote: > Thanks Ron! > I haven't acquired alot of new toys but do have a few baby ones. > No room for > flywheels right now but do have some air cooled toys. In fact, > back in > November a friend from church that works at the local landfill, > found me an old > tiller with a Clinton engine on it. I finally got it running > yesterday. It is > complete except for the fuel cap. Other than that there are a few > other > Clintons, Briggs, & Lausons along with Kimmy's Maytag! > > > Kelly Reynolds > Henderson, Kentucky > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "maytagtwin at aol.com" > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 9:12:16 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Is the List still around? > > > Hi Kelly, > Welcome back. Yes, it ia a little quiet but usually is this time of > year UNLESS > there are bouts of cabin fever and the guys are taking crankhandles > to each > other. I haven't seen the Flame Mistress put on her nomex (or, > spandex, which?) > suit in some time. > > > Since you have been gone, what engines have you found? > > Regards, > Ron Carroll > Clearmont, Missouri > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kelly Reynolds > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Tue, Feb 15, 2011 9:02 pm > Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? > > > Hey gang! > ong time no see! Just re-subscribed after a few years off of > here! Found a > ew folks on facebook but need to catch up with some of the old timers! > elly Reynolds > enderson, Kentucky > > > ______________________________________________ > EL mailing list > EL at lists.stationary-engine.com > ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From kelly_reynolds at rocketmail.com Wed Feb 16 04:36:13 2011 From: kelly_reynolds at rocketmail.com (Kelly Reynolds) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 06:36:13 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? In-Reply-To: References: <210817.45514.qm@web43404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8CD9B9E72C9F2AB-810-388E2@webmail-m102.sysops.aol.com> <329144.61123.qm@web43414.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FD07E4F-4496-4648-88B4-380F47303E33@rocketmail.com> Friday is hopeful but I think we're leaving Saturday for Orlando! Scheduling was off a bit for the show but I'm ready for some Florida Sunshine! I'll be there if i can? Kelly Reynolds Henderson, Kentucky Sent from my iPhone On Feb 16, 2011, at 6:18 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > Can we, then, expect to see you at the SIAM Show this year? > Dave > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Kelly Reynolds wrote: > >> Thanks Ron! >> I haven't acquired alot of new toys but do have a few baby ones. >> No room for >> flywheels right now but do have some air cooled toys. In fact, >> back in >> November a friend from church that works at the local landfill, >> found me an old >> tiller with a Clinton engine on it. I finally got it running >> yesterday. It is >> complete except for the fuel cap. Other than that there are a few >> other >> Clintons, Briggs, & Lausons along with Kimmy's Maytag! >> >> >> Kelly Reynolds >> Henderson, Kentucky >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: "maytagtwin at aol.com" >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 9:12:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Is the List still around? >> >> >> Hi Kelly, >> Welcome back. Yes, it ia a little quiet but usually is this time of >> year UNLESS >> there are bouts of cabin fever and the guys are taking crankhandles >> to each >> other. I haven't seen the Flame Mistress put on her nomex (or, >> spandex, which?) >> suit in some time. >> >> >> Since you have been gone, what engines have you found? >> >> Regards, >> Ron Carroll >> Clearmont, Missouri >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kelly Reynolds >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Sent: Tue, Feb 15, 2011 9:02 pm >> Subject: [SEL] Is the List still around? >> >> >> Hey gang! >> ong time no see! Just re-subscribed after a few years off of >> here! Found a >> ew folks on facebook but need to catch up with some of the old timers! >> elly Reynolds >> enderson, Kentucky >> >> >> ______________________________________________ >> EL mailing list >> EL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From cgandree at mchsi.com Wed Feb 16 05:08:11 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:08:11 -0600 (CST) Subject: [SEL] Happy Birthday Dave Croft Message-ID: <592926400.11321297861691232.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Happy Birthday Dave and many more! Curt Andree From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Feb 16 07:15:32 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:15:32 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Dave Croft's Birthday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1bebd6ba338bb6fa50812e474b7ac3a4.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hey Dave, Best wishes on the day!! I trust you'll sink a few pints of the "good stuff"? Just remember, 70 isn't old... If you're a stationary engine... Or a tree... 8-)) See ya, Arnie On Wed, February 16, 2011 6:17 am, Peter Lowe wrote: > Today is Dave Croft???s Birthday so fill his inbox with birthday wishes, 70 today. From obise at moscow.com Wed Feb 16 07:32:46 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:32:46 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Dave Croft's Birthday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2774FDCCE6E6464FB8AECB35E4469E8D@CathyComp> Happy birthday, Dave! Take it from someone who has been there and done that, life begins at 70! Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. _____ From: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org [mailto:stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 3:17 AM To: ATIS; Oldengine.org Subject: Dave Croft's Birthday Hi all Today is Dave Croft's Birthday so fill his inbox with birthday wishes, 70 today. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Australia From rotigel at me.com Wed Feb 16 14:34:55 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:34:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Many Have...... In-Reply-To: <726699.98262.qm@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <726699.98262.qm@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ......seen this, some may have not! See: http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,213971.0/topicseen.html From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Feb 16 15:31:27 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:31:27 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Many Have...... In-Reply-To: References: <726699.98262.qm@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1187813A-972A-4BD2-921F-7CFD2E2C3BDC@ncable.com.au> It must be a very clean tractor also as the driver never seemed to have any dirty marks on his tie or shirt! On 17/02/2011, at 9:34 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > ......seen this, some may have not! See: http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,213971.0/topicseen.html > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rfinksr at verizon.net Wed Feb 16 15:53:56 2011 From: rfinksr at verizon.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:53:56 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Many Have...... References: <726699.98262.qm@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <63D17072D2034062BE4FA097FF049F4B@computer> I have not. Have seen photos of fordson with them on but never in action. I would like to see them start one. The one my grand father had he would crank till tired then hook the horse to it. And get some one to pull till it started. R Fink PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" Cc: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 5:34 PM Subject: [SEL] Many Have...... > ......seen this, some may have not! See: > http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,213971.0/topicseen.html > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Wed Feb 16 15:51:04 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:51:04 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Many Have...... In-Reply-To: <1187813A-972A-4BD2-921F-7CFD2E2C3BDC@ncable.com.au> References: <726699.98262.qm@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <1187813A-972A-4BD2-921F-7CFD2E2C3BDC@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <47C4E33C-8DDC-49AE-8BEB-9EBC8812F9E7@me.com> In the teens and 20's men in the USA had class! Dave On Feb 16, 2011, at 6:31 PM, Russell wrote: > It must be a very clean tractor also as the driver never seemed to > have any dirty marks on his tie or shirt! > > > On 17/02/2011, at 9:34 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > >> ......seen this, some may have not! See: http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,213971.0/topicseen.html >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From kelly_reynolds at rocketmail.com Wed Feb 16 18:37:24 2011 From: kelly_reynolds at rocketmail.com (Kelly Reynolds) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:37:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] Many Have...... In-Reply-To: References: <726699.98262.qm@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <990868.66403.qm@web43402.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Thanks Dave! That is just plain tough! My grand pa would have loved that. He restored nearly 2 dozen Fordsons over the years. Kelly Reynolds Henderson, Kentucky ________________________________ From: Dave Rotigel To: Antique tractor email discussion group C ......seen this, some may have not! See: http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,213971.0/topicseen.html _______________________________________________ S From christison at coastalnet.com Wed Feb 16 19:17:09 2011 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:17:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Many Have...... In-Reply-To: References: <726699.98262.qm@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D5C9335.8010307@coastalnet.com> Here is a lot of info on these vehicles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw-propelled_vehicle Ken On 2/16/2011 5:34 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > ......seen this, some may have not! See: http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,213971.0/topicseen.html > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 00:23:30 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:23:30 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Many Have...... In-Reply-To: References: <726699.98262.qm@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 16 February 2011 22:34, Dave Rotigel wrote: > ......seen this, some may have not! See: http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,213971.0/topicseen.html There is/was one on display at the Heidrick Agricultural Museum at Woodland. Strange looking beast! Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Feb 17 05:00:22 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:00:22 EST Subject: [SEL] oldengine.org/members help Message-ID: _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/famous%20belted.jpg_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/famous%20belted.jpg) I am no longer able to upload any photos to oldengine.org. This may have happened when the server went down a while ago. Ken Christison had made a folder of "images" at the site for me to download to which has worked for years. I can no longer open this "image" folder. The photos I have previously posted are still there as noted above. I have this one squirreled away in my computer is the only reason I know it is still there. Others I have no way of knowing they are there as I cannot open the "images" folder to see what all I have put there over the years. Seems to me I remember a posting that there were some changes to the site, but not sure and may have dreamed it. Can anybody shed some light? WOW-70 degrees today! Thanks Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu Feb 17 00:46:52 2011 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:46:52 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Lister J Question In-Reply-To: References: <276B3133-D95D-4024-90D9-11884933E17F@adam.com.au> Message-ID: <581C723D1CCC4A7B8174F93561C106C7@KerryPC> G'Day Peter I have had a early lister J for many years No 5633 I think it was built 1912. Alway had other engines to restore so sat on the shelf, Started today on a quick rebuild for a rally end of March, (aways leave things to the last) Anyway the question. it has what is left of a piston water pump on the side, I can fabricate a new body but do you know how the non return valves worked? eg balls etc in the base. Thank you for any help Kerry From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 08:47:06 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:47:06 +0000 Subject: [SEL] oldengine.org/members help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 17 February 2011 13:00, wrote: > _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/famous%20belted.jpg_ > (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/famous%20belted.jpg) > > I am no longer able to upload any photos to oldengine.org. ?This may ?have > happened when the server went down a while ago. ?Ken Christison had ?made a > folder of "images" at the site for me to download to which has ?worked for > years. ?I can no longer open this "image" folder. ?The ?photos I have > previously posted are still there as noted above. ?I have ?this one squirreled away > in my computer is the only reason I know it is still ?there. ?Others I have > no way of knowing they are there as I cannot open the ?"images" folder to > see what all I have put there over the years. > > Seems to me I remember a posting that there were some changes to the site, > but not sure and may have dreamed it. > > Can anybody shed some light? Tom: I'll check when I get home, I think that there may have been some directory changes to the folder locations as far as FTP is concerned, but can't confirm until I have looked at the admin side of the site. I'll be home in about 30 minutes or so. Jim is en route to Florida so I can't ask him, should be able to sort something out. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From levans44 at roadrunner.com Thu Feb 17 09:31:46 2011 From: levans44 at roadrunner.com (Larry Evans) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 09:31:46 -0800 Subject: [SEL] oldengine.org/members help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D5D5B82.2070209@roadrunner.com> Peter, Another thing to consider is that he might be having the same problem that Ken Christison and I had that was solved by changing one setting on his FTP software. Here is a copy of what I found at that time: > I had the same problem until I changed the "Server Response Type" > setting in my FTP client software. Previously the default setting > worked o.k. I changed it to Microsoft FTP-v.5.0 which was one of the > other options offered. You might experiment with your settings and > find that all is well. Regards, Larry Evans On 2/17/2011 8:47 AM, Listerdiesel wrote: > On 17 February 2011 13:00, wrote: > >> _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/famous%20belted.jpg_ >> (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/famous%20belted.jpg) >> >> I am no longer able to upload any photos to oldengine.org. This may have >> happened when the server went down a while ago. Ken Christison had made a >> folder of "images" at the site for me to download to which has worked for >> years. I can no longer open this "image" folder. The photos I have >> previously posted are still there as noted above. I have this one squirreled away >> in my computer is the only reason I know it is still there. Others I have >> no way of knowing they are there as I cannot open the "images" folder to >> see what all I have put there over the years. >> >> Seems to me I remember a posting that there were some changes to the site, >> but not sure and may have dreamed it. >> >> Can anybody shed some light? >> > Tom: > > I'll check when I get home, I think that there may have been some > directory changes to the folder locations as far as FTP is concerned, > but can't confirm until I have looked at the admin side of the site. > I'll be home in about 30 minutes or so. > > Jim is en route to Florida so I can't ask him, should be able to sort > something out. > > Peter > -- Larry Evans MailTo:LEVANS44 at roadrunner.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 10:39:39 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:39:39 +0000 Subject: [SEL] oldengine.org/members help In-Reply-To: <4D5D5B82.2070209@roadrunner.com> References: <4D5D5B82.2070209@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: On 17 February 2011 17:31, Larry Evans wrote: > Peter, > > Another thing to consider is that he might be having the same problem > that Ken Christison and I had that was solved by changing one setting on > his FTP software. ?Here is a copy of what I found at that time: > >> I had the same problem until I changed the "Server Response Type" >> setting in my FTP client software. ?Previously the default setting >> worked o.k. ?I changed it to Microsoft FTP-v.5.0 which was one of the >> other options offered. ?You might experiment with your settings and >> find that all is well. > > Regards, > Larry Evans Thanks for that reminder, Larry, Tom might want to have a look at his settings. I can access the folder by FTP, and everything is there. I haven't changed any of my own FTP settings in 10 years or more, so not sure why it is needed now. Over to you, Tom. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From christison at coastalnet.com Thu Feb 17 10:57:57 2011 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:57:57 -0500 Subject: [SEL] oldengine.org/members help In-Reply-To: References: <4D5D5B82.2070209@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <4D5D6FB5.3040301@coastalnet.com> Hi Peter, I have never had to change any of my ftp settings before this, and I have 7 domains that have over the years been on probably 5 different servers. The fix that Larry mentioned worked for me and I passed that on to Tom this morning. I think he was going to be away from the computer for a while, so we won't know what he finds out until later. Take care. Ken On 2/17/2011 1:39 PM, Listerdiesel wrote: > On 17 February 2011 17:31, Larry Evans wrote: >> Peter, >> >> Another thing to consider is that he might be having the same problem >> that Ken Christison and I had that was solved by changing one setting on >> his FTP software. Here is a copy of what I found at that time: >> >>> I had the same problem until I changed the "Server Response Type" >>> setting in my FTP client software. Previously the default setting >>> worked o.k. I changed it to Microsoft FTP-v.5.0 which was one of the >>> other options offered. You might experiment with your settings and >>> find that all is well. >> Regards, >> Larry Evans > Thanks for that reminder, Larry, Tom might want to have a look at his settings. > > I can access the folder by FTP, and everything is there. > > I haven't changed any of my own FTP settings in 10 years or more, so > not sure why it is needed now. > > Over to you, Tom. > > Peter From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 12:00:39 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:00:39 +0000 Subject: [SEL] oldengine.org/members help In-Reply-To: <4D5D6FB5.3040301@coastalnet.com> References: <4D5D5B82.2070209@roadrunner.com> <4D5D6FB5.3040301@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: On 17 February 2011 18:57, Ken Christison wrote: > Hi Peter, > > I have never had to change any of my ftp settings before this, and I have > 7 domains that have over the years been on probably 5 different servers. > The fix that Larry mentioned worked for me and I passed that on to > Tom this morning. ?I think he was going to be away from the computer > for a while, so we won't know what he finds out until later. > > Take care. > > Ken Cheers, Ken, we'll wait until Tom gets back to us. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Feb 17 16:38:16 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:38:16 EST Subject: [SEL] oldengine.org/members help Message-ID: <52e7b.3ebc48c2.3a8f1978@aol.com> Ken, Peter, Larry, Changed the default setting to FTP V5.0 and saved it as suggested and did not help the matter. After changing, I closed and restarted FTP and it had in fact saved the 5.0 change, but as I said did not help. Tried V4.0 just for the heck of it and did not help. Previous to this, the "Images" folder that Ken put there was always at the top of the list when I got to the site. Now the "Images" folder is down the list in alphabetical order and will not open up. Maybe this has something to do with it. Just realized that every file I initially transferred many years ago before I had the "Images" folder has a date of 2-5-11, even the "Images" folder. Something occurred on that date to my files there. A knowledgeable computer person I am not! Thanks fellas! Tom From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Feb 17 16:48:39 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:48:39 EST Subject: [SEL] oldengine.org/members help Message-ID: <5358f.692785b4.3a8f1be7@aol.com> Peter, Ken, Larry, Hang on for a couple of days, seems it is working now. Closed everything down and restarted. Opened FTP. For some reason it had reset itself to "default". Changed to 5.0, saved, and then went to .org. Images folder is at top of page and I can open it. I will try to send something to it and see if that works. Hopefully everything is solved. Thanks, Tom From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Feb 17 16:55:48 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:55:48 EST Subject: [SEL] FTP test Message-ID: <53ae6.349948d2.3a8f1d94@aol.com> _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/box%20done.jpg_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/box%20done.jpg) Here is a photo of one of two jewelry boxes that I started many years ago and just now getting around to finishing. They are solid cherry. They second one needs about 3 more coats of finish. The cold winter helped to get them done! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From FRM8198 at aol.com Thu Feb 17 17:20:17 2011 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:20:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] FTP test Message-ID: <431d5.729bbe58.3a8f2351@aol.com> Very nice. Well worth the wait. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA In a message dated 2/17/2011 5:05:59 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Germoamer at aol.com writes: Here is a photo of one of two jewelry boxes that I started many years ago and just now getting around to finishing. They are solid cherry. They second one needs about 3 more coats of finish. The cold winter helped to get them done! From rwenig2 at xplornet.com Thu Feb 17 17:24:49 2011 From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:24:49 -0700 Subject: [SEL] FTP test In-Reply-To: <53ae6.349948d2.3a8f1d94@aol.com> References: <53ae6.349948d2.3a8f1d94@aol.com> Message-ID: <4D5DCA61.2050800@xplornet.com> Very nice Tom. Cherry is a fun wood to work with. I found it very hard. Rupert On 2/17/2011 5:55 PM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/box%20done.jpg_ > (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/box%20done.jpg) > > Here is a photo of one of two jewelry boxes that I started many years ago > and just now getting around to finishing. They are solid cherry. They > second one needs about 3 more coats of finish. The cold winter helped to get > them done! > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > -- yvt Rupert Wenig Camrose, Alberta, Canada. email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com http://users.xplornet.com/~rwenig/Home/ From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Feb 17 18:19:10 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:19:10 -0500 Subject: [SEL] FTP test References: <53ae6.349948d2.3a8f1d94@aol.com> Message-ID: <001801cbcf12$3a6c2d00$0201a8c0@mikecomp> SWEET!!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:55 PM Subject: [SEL] FTP test > _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/box%20done.jpg_ > (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/box%20done.jpg) > > Here is a photo of one of two jewelry boxes that I started many years ago > and just now getting around to finishing. They are solid cherry. They > second one needs about 3 more coats of finish. The cold winter helped to > get > them done! > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Thu Feb 17 19:35:10 2011 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:35:10 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Was,FTP test Message-ID: <20110217.193532.946.141089@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> Beautiful Tom. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ $65/Hr Job - 25 Openings Part-Time job ($20-$65/hr). Requirements: Home Internet Access http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d5de919a920b33528dst06vuc From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Feb 17 20:48:24 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 23:48:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] FTP test In-Reply-To: <53ae6.349948d2.3a8f1d94@aol.com> References: <53ae6.349948d2.3a8f1d94@aol.com> Message-ID: <7ed7e3bf4549568f577d047bf4dfe0f4.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Man, that's some gorgeous woodworking! On Thu, February 17, 2011 7:55 pm, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/box%20done.jpg_ > (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/box%20done.jpg) > > Here is a photo of one of two jewelry boxes that I started many years ago > and just now getting around to finishing. They are solid cherry. They > second one needs about 3 more coats of finish. The cold winter helped to get > them done! From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 21:18:45 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:18:45 +1100 Subject: [SEL] FTP test In-Reply-To: <53ae6.349948d2.3a8f1d94@aol.com> Message-ID: Really nice work Tom. On 18/2/11 11:55 AM, "Germoamer at aol.com" wrote: > _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/box%20done.jpg_ > (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/box%20done.jpg) > > Here is a photo of one of two jewelry boxes that I started many years ago > and just now getting around to finishing. They are solid cherry. They > second one needs about 3 more coats of finish. The cold winter helped to get > them done! > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From wboldrusty70 at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 21:44:55 2011 From: wboldrusty70 at gmail.com (William Burg) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:44:55 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Iron Horse mower engine. Message-ID: I have obtained a Morrison lawn mower which has an Iron Horse 2 stroke engine as the power supply. All looks good with the mechanicals, but I am after some help with the electrical side of this engine, particularly the governor system. It appears the governor actually shorts the ignition system, and some parts are missing, making it difficult to work it out. Does anyone have any information on this engine? Drawings would be very helpful. Bill from Australia. From rustyiron1 at bigpond.com Fri Feb 18 00:14:05 2011 From: rustyiron1 at bigpond.com (Andy Nicholson) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:14:05 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Lister J Question References: <276B3133-D95D-4024-90D9-11884933E17F@adam.com.au> <581C723D1CCC4A7B8174F93561C106C7@KerryPC> Message-ID: <01711872866040D7A7E0BB6CBFDD2A1C@owner916e4fa44> Hi Kerry. Are these Lister J's the same as the Southern Cross P's? I've seen a lot of parts on Ebay for J's, which I bet would fit onto the S/C P I'm putting together now. I don't know what you mean by "water pump" as my S/C P has only the Fuel & Oil pump on the side. Do you have any photo's? Andy Qld ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:46 PM Subject: [SEL] Lister J Question > G'Day Peter > > I have had a early lister J for many years No 5633 I think it was built > 1912. > Alway had other engines to restore so sat on the shelf, Started today on a > quick rebuild for a rally end of March, (aways leave things to the last) > Anyway the question. it has what is left of a piston water pump on the > side, > I can fabricate a new body but do you know how the non return valves > worked? > eg balls etc in the base. > Thank you for any help > > Kerry > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From cooperjb at aapt.net.au Fri Feb 18 03:11:52 2011 From: cooperjb at aapt.net.au (John & Beryl Cooper) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 22:11:52 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Lister J Question In-Reply-To: <581C723D1CCC4A7B8174F93561C106C7@KerryPC> Message-ID: <3BA52E6215B743B288AD2CBDBD1E128A@JBCooper> Hi Kerry, I think you may be looking at the remains of the piston fuel pump on the side. Some pictures would help. John Cooper Bega, Australia. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2011 7:47 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Lister J Question G'Day Peter I have had a early lister J for many years No 5633 I think it was built 1912. Alway had other engines to restore so sat on the shelf, Started today on a quick rebuild for a rally end of March, (aways leave things to the last) Anyway the question. it has what is left of a piston water pump on the side, I can fabricate a new body but do you know how the non return valves worked? eg balls etc in the base. Thank you for any help Kerry From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 14:25:01 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:25:01 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Lister J Question In-Reply-To: <581C723D1CCC4A7B8174F93561C106C7@KerryPC> Message-ID: Hi Kerry, I will try and find a better pic but this is the best I have found so far of an early Lister with a piston water pump: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/y09/images/DSCF4365_JPG.jpg Many have a rotary pump and I have only seen a couple with the piston pump fitted. I think they used check balls similar to an Austral water pump. Patrick On 17/2/11 7:46 PM, "Kerry" wrote: > G'Day Peter > > I have had a early lister J for many years No 5633 I think it was built > 1912. > Alway had other engines to restore so sat on the shelf, Started today on a > quick rebuild for a rally end of March, (aways leave things to the last) > Anyway the question. it has what is left of a piston water pump on the side, > I can fabricate a new body but do you know how the non return valves worked? > eg balls etc in the base. > Thank you for any help > > Kerry > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From rehot at msn.com Sat Feb 19 15:19:15 2011 From: rehot at msn.com (Ralph Holt) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:19:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Redneck GoCart In-Reply-To: References: <581C723D1CCC4A7B8174F93561C106C7@KerryPC>, Message-ID: One of a kind for sure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULQ6196Tfds&NR=1&feature=fvwp From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Sat Feb 19 16:15:41 2011 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:15:41 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Elden..you have a brother Message-ID: Very kewl..anyone know him? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULQ6196Tfds&feature=player_embedded From bakermonitor1932 at hotmail.com Sat Feb 19 17:36:25 2011 From: bakermonitor1932 at hotmail.com (Devin Holland) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:36:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Lister J Question (Patrick Livingstone) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kerry that looks like the one on our 8hp Famous we were able to put a wood dowel in the intake and use solder to build up the seats. To lap them we took a ball Bering, a nail and welded them together and used a drill to lap the new seats in.Devin Holland > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:25:01 +1100 > From: Patrick Livingstone > Subject: Re: [SEL] Lister J Question > To: ATIS > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi Kerry, > I will try and find a better pic but this is the best I have found so far of > an early Lister with a piston water pump: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/y09/images/DSCF4365_JPG.jpg > Many have a rotary pump and I have only seen a couple with the piston pump > fitted. I think they used check balls similar to an Austral water pump. > Patrick > > > On 17/2/11 7:46 PM, "Kerry" wrote: > > > G'Day Peter > > > > I have had a early lister J for many years No 5633 I think it was built > > 1912. > > Alway had other engines to restore so sat on the shelf, Started today on a > > quick rebuild for a rally end of March, (aways leave things to the last) > > Anyway the question. it has what is left of a piston water pump on the side, > > I can fabricate a new body but do you know how the non return valves worked? > > eg balls etc in the base. > > Thank you for any help > > > > Kerry From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Sat Feb 19 20:53:00 2011 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 15:53:00 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Fw: Lister J Question Message-ID: <935F255AD37C407D97E7ADDF23290074@KerryPC> G'Day Patrick, John & Andy Thanks for reply As seen in Patrick's photo some early J's had water piston pumps bolted to the engine frame under the fuel/oil pump, the piston was operated from a separate cam between the big end and the fly wheel, as can be seen on mine http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Temporary17.html. What is left of the pump shows no sign of any non return valve arrangement. Kerry From cgandree at mchsi.com Sun Feb 20 04:20:22 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 06:20:22 -0600 (CST) Subject: [SEL] Redneck GoCart In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1751716456.745501298204422561.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Ralph who owns this contraption? Am interested in knowing if the big engine is a Stover? thanks for sharing, Curt Andree ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Holt" To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 5:19:15 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [SEL] Redneck GoCart One of a kind for sure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULQ6196Tfds&NR=1&feature=fvwp _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rehot at msn.com Sun Feb 20 06:32:29 2011 From: rehot at msn.com (Ralph Holt) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:32:29 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Redneck GoCart In-Reply-To: <1751716456.745501298204422561.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: , <1751716456.745501298204422561.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: Hi Curt, I'm sorry but I do not know. I just stumbled across this video while checking out other cool redneck inventions and stuff on You Tube. In the description this is all it says about it: Builder/operator unknown. This was captured at the Santa Fe Trail Tired Iron Show west of Larned Ks. Oct 11, 2008 Ralph > Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 06:20:22 -0600 > From: cgandree at mchsi.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Redneck GoCart > > Ralph who owns this contraption? Am interested in knowing if the big engine is a Stover? > thanks for sharing, > Curt Andree > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ralph Holt" > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 5:19:15 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: [SEL] Redneck GoCart > > > One of a kind for sure. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULQ6196Tfds&NR=1&feature=fvwp > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Feb 20 08:35:20 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:35:20 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems Message-ID: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Folks, Dolly also has a FaceBook thread going on this topic if you're on FaceBook. --------------------------------- Original Message --------------------------------- Subject: Fwd: Crosshead Problems From: "Jim French" Date: Sun, February 20, 2011 10:00 am To: "Arnie Fero" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi Arnie Can you do me a favour and post this to the ATIS list? I've tried a couple of times and it doesn't appear. Thanks, Dolly -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Crosshead Problems Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:54:23 +0000 From: Jim French Organisation: French Brothers Insulation To: ATIS Stationary Engine List Hi Folks Remember Tillie, the half-breed oilfield engine I bought for Jim's 40th birthday? Well, guess what? That was 10 years ago! Now we're hoping to take her to Nuenen this year, but a problem has arisen. When we got Tillie, the babbitt on the crosshead was thin and worn, so going to Nuenen has inspired Jim to re-do the babbitt. Today, he stripped the crosshead down but when he started warming everything up, degreasing and drying it out before attempting pouring the molten babbitt, he spotted a tiny line of oil coming out of the main bearing as it warmed up, so the project has been halted. What now? Before going any further, advice and suggestions will be most welcome. And, just out of curiousity, how was this bearing machined when new, because it can't be rotated and it appears to be one single casting? Anyway, please take a look at the pictures http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/crosshead.htm Thanks for all and any input! Jim& Dolly -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From rwenig2 at xplornet.com Sun Feb 20 14:17:37 2011 From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 15:17:37 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems In-Reply-To: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <4D619301.9030209@xplornet.com> My guess is they placed a machined cast iron core (for the shaft) in place in the mold prior to closing the mold and then pouring the rest of the casting. The core would have to be hot when placed in the mold and the pour done before the core had time to cool down. All that would be needed to do after the pour is polish the shaft if the molding and casting process was done carefully. I've used steel cores for a similar purpose but the casting I poured was aluminum. Rupert On 2/20/2011 9:35 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Folks, Dolly also has a FaceBook thread going on this topic if you're on FaceBook. > > --------------------------------- Original Message --------------------------------- > Subject: Fwd: Crosshead Problems > From: "Jim French" > Date: Sun, February 20, 2011 10:00 am > To: "Arnie Fero" > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Hi Arnie > > Can you do me a favour and post this to the ATIS list? I've tried a > couple of times and it doesn't appear. > > Thanks, > Dolly > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Crosshead Problems > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:54:23 +0000 > From: Jim French > Organisation: French Brothers Insulation > To: ATIS Stationary Engine List > > Hi Folks > > Remember Tillie, the half-breed oilfield engine I bought for Jim's 40th > birthday? Well, guess what? That was 10 years ago! Now we're hoping > to take her to Nuenen this year, but a problem has arisen. > When we got Tillie, the babbitt on the crosshead was thin and worn, so > going to Nuenen has inspired Jim to re-do the babbitt. Today, he > stripped the crosshead down but when he started warming everything up, > degreasing and drying it out before attempting pouring the molten > babbitt, he spotted a tiny line of oil coming out of the main bearing as > it warmed up, so the project has been halted. What now? Before going > any further, advice and suggestions will be most welcome. > And, just out of curiousity, how was this bearing machined when new, > because it can't be rotated and it appears to be one single casting? > Anyway, please take a look at the pictures > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/crosshead.htm > Thanks for all and any input! > > Jim& Dolly > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -- yvt Rupert Wenig Camrose, Alberta, Canada. email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com http://users.xplornet.com/~rwenig/Home/ From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Feb 20 23:52:13 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:52:13 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems In-Reply-To: <4D619301.9030209@xplornet.com> References: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <4D619301.9030209@xplornet.com> Message-ID: On 20 February 2011 22:17, Rupert wrote: > ? ? ? ?My guess is they placed a machined cast iron core (for the shaft) in > place in the mold prior to closing the mold and then pouring the rest of the > casting. The core would have to be hot when placed in the mold and the pour > done before the core had time to cool down. All that would be needed to do > after the pour is polish the shaft if the molding and casting process was > done carefully. > ? ? ? ?I've used steel cores for a similar purpose but the casting I poured > was aluminum. > > Rupert That would be my guess as well. If Jim & Helen could check the material and grain of the pin, that would possibly help with working out if it is a separate pice cast in or not. They might be able to bore through and push a steel pin into the assembly to stiffen it up, but it looks like you'd be machining through some of the bearing areas, even with a 1.5" pin. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 03:06:43 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:06:43 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems In-Reply-To: <29BBAFB0C7B4439EBC1A29F2DCBA87BC@KitchenHP> References: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <4D619301.9030209@xplornet.com> <29BBAFB0C7B4439EBC1A29F2DCBA87BC@KitchenHP> Message-ID: On 21 February 2011 08:43, Gene's Wowway e-mail wrote: > I am an engine neophyte, and NOT a machinist, but I wondered about something > like Peter's suggestion below. > > Gene I spoke with Jim this morning, and we looked at putting a HT cap head screw through the centre of the assemby to pull the sides together, or at least to stop them moving apart. An M12 12.9 grade cap head screw could go in there with an ali plug pushed in aferwards to hide the hole that would be needed. We both also agreed that although it was 'unlikely' to fail any time soon, it was an unknown in terms of running and it would be better to try and do something in the way of support while the crosshead was off and the babbitting was being done. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 03:10:22 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:10:22 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Drawbar/Turntable Trailer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10 February 2011 21:18, Listerdiesel wrote: > A few of you may remember our questions regarding the brakes that we > were going to use on the new trailer/RV that we are building. The machining of the main pivot pin and associated pieces is almost finished, we drop two bits down to a friend for the holes to be milled tomorrow, pictures of the pin and other parts here: Main pivot pin at the top, bottom cup plate on the bottom L/H, safety cap mid bottom, thrust bearing housing right bottom. [img]http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer46.jpg[/img] Part-machined blank for the pin cup about to go back on the lathe. [img]http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer47.jpg[/img] Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 03:11:41 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:11:41 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Drawbar/Turntable Trailer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 21 February 2011 11:10, Listerdiesel wrote: > On 10 February 2011 21:18, Listerdiesel wrote: >> A few of you may remember our questions regarding the brakes that we >> were going to use on the new trailer/RV that we are building. > > The machining of the main pivot pin and associated pieces is almost > finished, we drop two bits down to a friend for the holes to be milled > tomorrow, pictures of the pin and other parts here: Try these links without the [img] tags Main pivot pin at the top, bottom cup plate on the bottom L/H, safety cap mid bottom, thrust bearing housing right bottom. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer46.jpg Part-machined blank for the pin cup about to go back on the lathe. http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/DBTrailer47.jpg Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From cgandree at mchsi.com Mon Feb 21 04:48:18 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 06:48:18 -0600 (CST) Subject: [SEL] Redneck GoCart In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <906490066.860751298292498440.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Thanks for your response Ralph. Guess I will have do some further research. Curt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Holt" To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 8:32:29 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [SEL] Redneck GoCart Hi Curt, I'm sorry but I do not know. I just stumbled across this video while checking out other cool redneck inventions and stuff on You Tube. In the description this is all it says about it: Builder/operator unknown. This was captured at the Santa Fe Trail Tired Iron Show west of Larned Ks. Oct 11, 2008 Ralph > Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 06:20:22 -0600 > From: cgandree at mchsi.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Redneck GoCart > > Ralph who owns this contraption? Am interested in knowing if the big engine is a Stover? > thanks for sharing, > Curt Andree > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ralph Holt" > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 5:19:15 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: [SEL] Redneck GoCart > > > One of a kind for sure. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULQ6196Tfds&NR=1&feature=fvwp > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Mon Feb 21 19:04:20 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:04:20 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems In-Reply-To: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Good doG! It's been that way for 68 years, three months, 4 days,one hour, and 6 minutes ! Put the damn thing back together and run it! Dave PS, REALLY pisses me off when some young chick thinks that simply because my "cross head" has a wrinkle or two it will not FIRE! PPS, What's a FaceBook? On Feb 20, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Folks, Dolly also has a FaceBook thread going on this topic if > you're on FaceBook. > > --------------------------------- Original Message > --------------------------------- > Subject: Fwd: Crosshead Problems > From: "Jim French" > Date: Sun, February 20, 2011 10:00 am > To: "Arnie Fero" > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Hi Arnie > > Can you do me a favour and post this to the ATIS list? I've tried a > couple of times and it doesn't appear. > > Thanks, > Dolly > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Crosshead Problems > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:54:23 +0000 > From: Jim French > Organisation: French Brothers Insulation > To: ATIS Stationary Engine List > > Hi Folks > > Remember Tillie, the half-breed oilfield engine I bought for Jim's > 40th > birthday? Well, guess what? That was 10 years ago! Now we're hoping > to take her to Nuenen this year, but a problem has arisen. > When we got Tillie, the babbitt on the crosshead was thin and worn, so > going to Nuenen has inspired Jim to re-do the babbitt. Today, he > stripped the crosshead down but when he started warming everything up, > degreasing and drying it out before attempting pouring the molten > babbitt, he spotted a tiny line of oil coming out of the main > bearing as > it warmed up, so the project has been halted. What now? Before going > any further, advice and suggestions will be most welcome. > And, just out of curiousity, how was this bearing machined when new, > because it can't be rotated and it appears to be one single casting? > Anyway, please take a look at the pictures > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/crosshead.htm > Thanks for all and any input! > > Jim& Dolly > > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bakermonitortest at hotmail.com Tue Feb 22 13:41:49 2011 From: bakermonitortest at hotmail.com (Devin Holland) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:41:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems In-Reply-To: References: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>, Message-ID: Dave this is facebook at its best I think. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=75750620328 Devin Holland > From: rotigel at me.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:04:20 -0500 > CC: helen at insulate.co.uk > Subject: Re: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems > > Good doG! It's been that way for 68 years, three months, 4 days,one > hour, and 6 minutes ! Put the damn thing back together and run it! > Dave > PS, REALLY pisses me off when some young chick thinks that simply > because my "cross head" has a wrinkle or two it will not FIRE! > PPS, What's a FaceBook? > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Crosshead Problems > > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:54:23 +0000 > > From: Jim French > > Organisation: French Brothers Insulation > > To: ATIS Stationary Engine List > > > > Hi Folks > > > > Remember Tillie, the half-breed oilfield engine I bought for Jim's > > 40th > > birthday? Well, guess what? That was 10 years ago! Now we're hoping > > to take her to Nuenen this year, but a problem has arisen. > > When we got Tillie, the babbitt on the crosshead was thin and worn, so > > going to Nuenen has inspired Jim to re-do the babbitt. Today, he > > stripped the crosshead down but when he started warming everything up, > > degreasing and drying it out before attempting pouring the molten > > babbitt, he spotted a tiny line of oil coming out of the main > > bearing as > > it warmed up, so the project has been halted. What now? Before going > > any further, advice and suggestions will be most welcome. > > And, just out of curiousity, how was this bearing machined when new, > > because it can't be rotated and it appears to be one single casting? > > Anyway, please take a look at the pictures > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/crosshead.htm > > Thanks for all and any input! > > > > Jim& Dolly > > > > -- > > Jim French > > fbi at insulate.co.uk > > http://www.insulate.co.uk > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Tue Feb 22 19:39:10 2011 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:39:10 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Belated birthday Message-ID: <20110222.193931.946.159867@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> Just a little late but, happy birthday to Peter Forbes. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ $65/Hr Job - 25 Openings Part-Time job ($20-$65/hr). Requirements: Home Internet Access http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d6481b01313e4039e0st06vuc From oldironnut at windstream.net Tue Feb 22 05:57:30 2011 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 08:57:30 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems In-Reply-To: References: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <04036320-06EA-4C0D-9E34-ACA0A3768BBF@windstream.net> On Feb 21, 2011, at 10:04 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > Good doG! It's been that way for 68 years, three months, 4 days,one > hour, and 6 minutes ! Put the damn thing back together and run it! > Dave I thought it had been like that for 69 years, 6 months, 9 days, 6 hours and 9 minutes! Mike From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Feb 23 05:13:31 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:13:31 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems In-Reply-To: <04036320-06EA-4C0D-9E34-ACA0A3768BBF@windstream.net> References: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <04036320-06EA-4C0D-9E34-ACA0A3768BBF@windstream.net> Message-ID: On Feb 22, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Michael Tucker wrote > > > I thought it had been like that for 69 years, 6 months, 9 days, 6 hours and 9 minutes! > > Mike Jim now has the problem licked. From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Feb 23 08:08:30 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:08:30 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems In-Reply-To: References: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <04036320-06EA-4C0D-9E34-ACA0A3768BBF@windstream.net> Message-ID: <14de621a31a1cf9848df5395d6d7d4d4.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> GROAN..... On Wed, February 23, 2011 8:13 am, Rob Skinner wrote: > On Feb 22, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Michael Tucker wrote >> I thought it had been like that for 69 years, 6 months, 9 days, 6 hours and 9 >> minutes! >> > > Jim now has the problem licked. From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Feb 23 09:26:30 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:26:30 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 83, Issue 18 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110223192410.00e0bc70@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 07:00 PM 23/02/2011, you wrote: >Message: 5 >Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:08:30 -0500 >From: "Arnie Fero" >Subject: Re: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems >GROAN..... >On Wed, February 23, 2011 8:13 am, Rob Skinner wrote: > > On Feb 22, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Michael Tucker wrote > >> I thought it had been like that for 69 years, 6 months, 9 days, 6 > hours and 9 > >> minutes! > > Jim now has the problem licked. I bet that went over many heads !! :-) Jerry From andyglines at hotmail.com Wed Feb 23 19:34:25 2011 From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:34:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] crosshead problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dave might be right about the crack being old and not a big problem. I'm not so sure. If the wristpin were to fail it would probably be sudden and catastrophic. First have it magnafluxed (magnetic particle inspection) to determine the extent of the crack and to check for other cracks. I think that I would look into having the crack welded up then remachine the wristpin. From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Feb 24 17:08:13 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:08:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] it's true Message-ID: <02d601cbd488$7a8f17f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Yes fellow Listers, it's true. My much older, crabbier, geezerly brother Steve (aka, the bad cloistered oyster Royster) turns 60 tomorrow. Please feel free to remind himof it often in any way you feel appropriate. He may not thank you, but I sure will. Best to you always, Mike From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Thu Feb 24 17:43:52 2011 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:43:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] it's true Message-ID: <16f532.7ac36e1e.3a986358@aol.com> Happy 65th birthday Steve. If I would have known this I would have sent you some Viagra. Kevin K KK In a message dated 2/24/2011 8:16:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mr at carolina.rr.com writes: Yes fellow Listers, it's true. My much older, crabbier, geezerly brother Steve (aka, the bad cloistered oyster Royster) turns 60 tomorrow. Please feel free to remind himof it often in any way you feel appropriate. He may not thank you, but I sure will. Best to you always, Mike _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Feb 24 21:47:43 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 00:47:43 -0500 Subject: [SEL] it's true In-Reply-To: <02d601cbd488$7a8f17f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> References: <02d601cbd488$7a8f17f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: <3a948ebfef08e98dc7b6da9a70022158.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> HOLY CRAP!! Well THAT explains a lot. I knew he was a crusty ol' fart; but 60? JEEZE! That's OLD. I guess this means we'll need to get used to the clomp-clomp sound of his walker all summer at the shows. And he'll probably be loading up the trash cans with Depends instead of beer bottles. Ah well, it happens to all of us eventually. HAPPY BIRTHDAY STEVE!! On Thu, February 24, 2011 8:08 pm, Mike Royster wrote: > Yes fellow Listers, it's true. My much older, crabbier, geezerly brother Steve > (aka, the bad cloistered oyster Royster) turns 60 tomorrow. Please feel free to > remind himof it often in any way you feel appropriate. He may not thank you, but I > sure will. > > Best to you always, > > Mike From rotigel at me.com Fri Feb 25 08:12:50 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:12:50 -0500 Subject: [SEL] crosshead problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Come on Andy! Where the hell is your sense of adventure? Dave On Feb 23, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Andy Glines wrote: > > Dave might be right about the crack being old and not a big > problem. I'm not so sure. If the wristpin were to fail it would > probably be sudden and catastrophic. First have it magnafluxed > (magnetic particle inspection) to determine the extent of the crack > and to check for other cracks. I think that I would look into > having the crack welded up then remachine the wristpin. From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Feb 25 08:59:40 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:59:40 -0800 Subject: [SEL] crosshead problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The adventure would be machining the crosshead pin after it was welded. Rob > > Come on Andy! Where the hell is your sense of adventure? > Dave > On Feb 23, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Andy Glines wrote: > >> Dave might be right about the crack being old and not a big >> problem. I'm not so sure. If the wristpin were to fail it would >> probably be sudden and catastrophic. First have it magnafluxed >> (magnetic particle inspection) to determine the extent of the crack >> and to check for other cracks. I think that I would look into >> having the crack welded up then remachine the wristpin. From kosh at ncweb.com Fri Feb 25 08:59:43 2011 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:59:43 -0500 Subject: [SEL] crosshead problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20110225115727.0bf237c0@ncweb.com> How do you remachine a cast-in-place wristpin? Dave Merchant At 10:34 PM 2/23/2011, you wrote: >Dave might be right about the crack being old and not a big problem. I'm >not so sure. If the wristpin were to fail it would probably be sudden and >catastrophic. First have it magnafluxed (magnetic particle inspection) to >determine the extent of the crack and to check for other cracks. I think >that I would look into having the crack welded up then remachine the >wristpin. >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline." - Prof. Phil Jones - Director, Climatic Research Unit - School of Environmental Sciences - University of East Anglia - Norwich, UK - To: Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley, Malcolm Hughes From rwenig2 at xplornet.com Fri Feb 25 10:07:14 2011 From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:07:14 -0700 Subject: [SEL] crosshead problems In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20110225115727.0bf237c0@ncweb.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20110225115727.0bf237c0@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <4D67EFD2.8040907@xplornet.com> I'm sure there are enough machinists on the list who would have spoken up by now on how to machine a cast-in-place wristpin. A special cutter similar to the in block crankshaft cutter Roland posted a link to might work after the bulk of the weld bead is ground or filed down to size. I think that leaves only one method left. That is, to do it by hand with a file and emery cloth but that would be a very tedious process. Rupert On 2/25/2011 9:59 AM, Dave Merchant wrote: > How do you remachine a cast-in-place wristpin? > > Dave Merchant > > > At 10:34 PM 2/23/2011, you wrote: > >> Dave might be right about the crack being old and not a big problem. I'm >> not so sure. If the wristpin were to fail it would probably be sudden and >> catastrophic. First have it magnafluxed (magnetic particle inspection) to >> determine the extent of the crack and to check for other cracks. I think >> that I would look into having the crack welded up then remachine the >> wristpin. >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Dave Merchant > kosh at nesys.com > dmerchant at layerzero.com > > http://www.nesys.com > http://www.nesys.org > YouTube: SteamCrane > > "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps > to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) > and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline." > - Prof. Phil Jones > - Director, Climatic Research Unit > - School of Environmental Sciences > - University of East Anglia > - Norwich, UK > - To: Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley, Malcolm Hughes > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > -- yvt Rupert Wenig Camrose, Alberta, Canada. email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com http://users.xplornet.com/~rwenig/Home/ From rotigel at me.com Fri Feb 25 16:51:15 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:51:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Crosshead Problems In-Reply-To: <04036320-06EA-4C0D-9E34-ACA0A3768BBF@windstream.net> References: <4435b8fcba36836a021b4282e5f88960.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <04036320-06EA-4C0D-9E34-ACA0A3768BBF@windstream.net> Message-ID: <9EC79A79-13B6-465D-B0FF-CB6EF8525C48@me.com> Gollleeey! Time flys when you are having FUN! Dave On Feb 22, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Michael Tucker wrote: > On Feb 21, 2011, at 10:04 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > >> Good doG! It's been that way for 68 years, three months, 4 days,one >> hour, and 6 minutes ! Put the damn thing back together and run it! >> Dave > > I thought it had been like that for 69 years, 6 months, 9 days, 6 > hours and 9 minutes! > > Mike From tchristoff at earthlink.net Fri Feb 25 20:04:28 2011 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:04:28 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [SEL] it's true Message-ID: <14747854.1298693068218.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Happy Birthday Steve, the Good Brother. Tim -----Original Message----- >From: Arnie Fero >Sent: Feb 24, 2011 11:47 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] it's true > > >On Thu, February 24, 2011 8:08 pm, Mike Royster wrote: >> Yes fellow Listers, it's true. My much older, crabbier, geezerly brother Steve >> (aka, the bad cloistered oyster Royster) turns 60 tomorrow. Please feel free to >> remind himof it often in any way you feel appropriate. He may not thank you, but I >> sure will. >> >> Best to you always, >> >> Mike > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Feb 26 05:45:54 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:45:54 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Tillie Crosshead Babbitt Update (from Dolly) Message-ID: <9ea94c0ca164287d1a275231c7de7026.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> So, having had a lot of advice, for now Jim is going to re-do the babbitt. The journal has been mag tested (updated photos are here http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/crosshead.htm ), lots of photos for reference taken so when it's run for a while he can do another inspection and see if there are any changes. Thanks for all the input, it's been most useful. Dolly & Jim. -- Helen French helen at insulate.co.uk FBI Sig http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.dollyfrench.com/ http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm http://freespace.virgin.net/french.bros/ From steve_royster at hotmail.com Sat Feb 26 07:01:35 2011 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:01:35 -0500 Subject: [SEL] it's true In-Reply-To: <14747854.1298693068218.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <14747854.1298693068218.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Hi Tim, Thanks! glad you are the smart Christoff! Steve > Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:04:28 -0600 > From: tchristoff at earthlink.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] it's true > > Happy Birthday Steve, the Good Brother. > > Tim > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Arnie Fero > >Sent: Feb 24, 2011 11:47 PM > >To: The SEL email discussion list > >Subject: Re: [SEL] it's true > > > > > >On Thu, February 24, 2011 8:08 pm, Mike Royster wrote: > >> Yes fellow Listers, it's true. My much older, crabbier, geezerly brother Steve > >> (aka, the bad cloistered oyster Royster) turns 60 tomorrow. Please feel free to > >> remind himof it often in any way you feel appropriate. He may not thank you, but I > >> sure will. > >> > >> Best to you always, > >> > >> Mike > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Tim Christoff > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Sat Feb 26 08:19:14 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:19:14 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Tillie Crosshead Babbitt Update (from Dolly) In-Reply-To: <9ea94c0ca164287d1a275231c7de7026.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <9ea94c0ca164287d1a275231c7de7026.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <0BF9AA06-A9B2-4618-90B8-210AE4A86AE2@rustyiron.com> > So, having had a lot of advice, for now Jim is going to re-do the babbitt. > The journal has been mag tested (updated photos are here > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/crosshead.htm ), lots of photos for > reference taken so when it's run for a while he can do another inspection > and see if there are any changes. > > Thanks for all the input, it's been most useful. > > Dolly & Jim. Jim, Glad it worked out without any difficulties. Keep the pictures coming. There's one thing where I have to call you out. Pouring babbitt without even safety glasses? WTF? Dolly, Safety glasses can be had for two quid. Buy a case and charge 'em to and FBI job. From rob at rustyiron.com Sat Feb 26 10:01:23 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:01:23 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Tillie Crosshead Babbitt Update (from Dolly) In-Reply-To: <4D69316F.3030609@insulate.co.uk> References: <9ea94c0ca164287d1a275231c7de7026.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <0BF9AA06-A9B2-4618-90B8-210AE4A86AE2@rustyiron.com> <4D69316F.3030609@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: On Feb 26, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Jim French wrote: > Daresay this won't show up on the list but I'll give it a try! > > Er .... I'm not the safety officer, just the photographer. > And at least the other "top of the list" job wasn't being done, which is stripping out the Champ back axle which involves removing the petrol tank. Tom said he didn't want to start on that job while the torches were out! > > Dolly Well at least you have ONE smart worker in the shop. Give the lad an extra portion of porridge tonight. My life has been a serious of one explosion after another, and it was only after a babbitt incident that I decided that glasses were the bare minimum when handling molten metal. From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Feb 26 11:33:23 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:33:23 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Tillie Crosshead Babbitt Update (from Dolly) In-Reply-To: <0BF9AA06-A9B2-4618-90B8-210AE4A86AE2@rustyiron.com> References: <9ea94c0ca164287d1a275231c7de7026.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <0BF9AA06-A9B2-4618-90B8-210AE4A86AE2@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: GOOD GRIEF!! WTF indeed!! Definitely the safety glasses; and how 'bout a face shield and welding gloves? BTW, the finished product looks fantastic! On Sat, February 26, 2011 11:19 am, Rob Skinner wrote: > >> So, having had a lot of advice, for now Jim is going to re-do the babbitt. >> The journal has been mag tested (updated photos are here >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/crosshead.htm ), lots of photos for >> reference taken so when it's run for a while he can do another inspection >> and see if there are any changes. >> >> Thanks for all the input, it's been most useful. >> Dolly & Jim. > > Jim, > Glad it worked out without any difficulties. Keep the pictures coming. > There's one thing where I have to call you out. > Pouring babbitt without even safety glasses? WTF? > > Dolly, > Safety glasses can be had for two quid. Buy a case and charge 'em to and FBI job. From rotigel at me.com Sun Feb 27 18:36:47 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:36:47 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Tillie Crosshead Babbitt Update (from Dolly) In-Reply-To: <9ea94c0ca164287d1a275231c7de7026.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <9ea94c0ca164287d1a275231c7de7026.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <3C11C82A-29CA-4B53-9E4E-9958652BC311@me.com> The babbitt "redo" looks GREAT. I really liked the part of the description that said that Jim was going to put the jounal back on AS IS-- BECAUSE IT'S OK! Just too damn bad that someone didn't say that in the begining--sure as hell would have saved a LOT of trouble! Dave PS, BOOKS, SCHOOL,EAT! On Feb 26, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > So, having had a lot of advice, for now Jim is going to re-do the babbitt. > The journal has been mag tested (updated photos are here > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/crosshead.htm ), lots of photos for > reference taken so when it's run for a while he can do another inspection > and see if there are any changes. > > Thanks for all the input, it's been most useful. > > Dolly & Jim. > > > > -- > > Helen French > > helen at insulate.co.uk > > FBI Sig > > http://www.insulate.co.uk > > http://www.dollyfrench.com/ > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > > http://freespace.virgin.net/french.bros/ > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Feb 28 18:35:00 2011 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:35:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] it's true In-Reply-To: <16f532.7ac36e1e.3a986358@aol.com> References: <16f532.7ac36e1e.3a986358@aol.com> Message-ID: Kevin , Obviously my brother has filled your head with lies! I'm only 60 fer crying out loud, ps send the Viagra anyway. Thanks , Steve > From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com > Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:43:52 -0500 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] it's true > > Happy 65th birthday Steve. If I would have known this I would have sent > you some Viagra. > Kevin K > KK > > > In a message dated 2/24/2011 8:16:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > mr at carolina.rr.com writes: > > Yes fellow Listers, it's true. My much older, crabbier, geezerly brother > Steve (aka, the bad cloistered oyster Royster) turns 60 tomorrow. Please > feel free to remind himof it often in any way you feel appropriate. He may > not thank you, but I sure will. > > Best to you always, > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Mon Feb 28 18:51:10 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:51:10 -0500 Subject: [SEL] it's true In-Reply-To: References: <16f532.7ac36e1e.3a986358@aol.com> Message-ID: <2D998C93-A0FD-4AA1-89B6-0E62F7C55F7C@me.com> Merry X-mas Steve! Dave On Feb 28, 2011, at 9:35 PM, Steve Royster wrote: > > Kevin , Obviously my brother has filled your head with lies! I'm only 60 fer crying out loud, ps send the Viagra anyway. Thanks , Steve > >> From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com >> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:43:52 -0500 >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: Re: [SEL] it's true >> >> Happy 65th birthday Steve. If I would have known this I would have sent >> you some Viagra. >> Kevin K >> KK >> >> >> In a message dated 2/24/2011 8:16:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> mr at carolina.rr.com writes: >> >> Yes fellow Listers, it's true. My much older, crabbier, geezerly brother >> Steve (aka, the bad cloistered oyster Royster) turns 60 tomorrow. Please >> feel free to remind himof it often in any way you feel appropriate. He may >> not thank you, but I sure will. >> >> Best to you always, >> >> Mike >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From blcksmth at wcnet.org Mon Feb 28 19:02:21 2011 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:02:21 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Acme engine at auction in April In-Reply-To: References: <16f532.7ac36e1e.3a986358@aol.com> Message-ID: <619D48A8CD354AD1A4459B0AE0038195@Eagle> My brother-in-law is having an auction April 25 near Gibsonburg, Ohio. On the auction will be a 16hp Acme Sucker Rod engine - predecessor to S. M. Jones - Toledo, Ohio - serial #541. It is still in the power building and was last run about 1990 to pump oil. The connecting rod was disconnected and the flywheels belted to a modern engine for a while after that time. The cylinder/piston was lubricated at that time also. All the parts should be there. The sale bill will be listed at www.wcnet.org/~kbradley but it is not there yet. Bob Willman The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW Bowling Green, Ohio The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson