From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Aug 5 04:51:54 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 21:51:54 +1000 Subject: [SEL] portable hornsby In-Reply-To: <45250cdc86ef12631cc58bc7aad7cec4.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7>, <18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus>, <002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7>, <4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com>, , <20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com> <45250cdc86ef12631cc58bc7aad7cec4.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: <8D2B935E-6755-48EA-A5F9-D4D0BB3DCFFE@ncable.com.au> G'day all, I posted some pic's of my 3.5hp portable Hornsby a little while back, well I have the hubs for the wheel fitted, cooling tower shower cast and fitted, fuel system all done, adjustments to the sprayer, oiler wicks in the oil wells, ...... so the plan is to try and start it on Sunday! Well my good friend Greg and I just could not help ourselves. Hat to put some heat onto it today between work shifts. Let me just say she is a bloody ripper. Started real easy. Made a slight adjustment to the exhaust timing and away it went real nice. YeeeeHAAArrrrr ! We only had a short time to play. Looking forward to Sunday afternoon, will fill the water tank and give it a real good run. I will try my hand at vidoeing it and putting it on you tube? Russell From obise at moscow.com Sat Aug 6 22:12:03 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 22:12:03 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video Message-ID: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator would walk past. Ring a bell? I've found several similar videos on YouTube; but, not this particular one; I'm guessing it must reside on some other host site. Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start Field Marshal tractor) Every little bit of help is welcome. Best regards, Orrin In the unlikely case someone has not seen such a performance, here's a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbN-jO11vKg&feature=related -- Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com Sat Aug 6 23:32:24 2011 From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 06:32:24 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> Message-ID: Bottleneck John ? > Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 22:12:03 -0700 > From: obise at moscow.com > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video > > I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. > I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. > > This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the > melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were > standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator > would walk past. Ring a bell? > > I've found several similar videos on YouTube; but, not this particular > one; I'm guessing it must reside on some other host site. > > Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty > such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine > doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. > (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start > Field Marshal tractor) > > Every little bit of help is welcome. > > Best regards, > > Orrin > In the unlikely case someone has not seen such a performance, here's a link: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbN-jO11vKg&feature=related > > -- > Orrin Iseminger > Colton, Washington, USA > http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm > So many projects. So little time. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From obise at moscow.com Sun Aug 7 06:44:58 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 06:44:58 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> Message-ID: <4E3E96DA.8040701@moscow.com> Thank you for the suggestion, John. I followed up on it, but didn't find what I'm looking for. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 8/6/2011 11:32 PM, john palmer wrote: > Bottleneck John From jerrye at databak.co.za Sun Aug 7 10:00:46 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 19:00:46 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 89, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110807185558.01fd20b0@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 07/08/2011, you wrote: >Message: 1 >Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 22:12:03 -0700 >From: Orrin Iseminger >Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video > >I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. >I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. > >This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the >melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were >standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator >would walk past. Ring a bell? > >I've found several similar videos on YouTube; but, not this particular >one; I'm guessing it must reside on some other host site. > >Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty >such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine >doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. >(besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start >Field Marshal tractor) > >Every little bit of help is welcome. > >Best regards, > >Orrin >In the unlikely case someone has not seen such a performance, here's a link: >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbN-jO11vKg&feature=related Hi Orrin, My immediate thought was to the one you supplied a link to. I have that saved. I cannot help with your request but would also suggest that you search for : Eaglesmith - Small Motors" a really great song which we could all identify with. I hope that they play it at my funeral one day (hopefully not too soon) :-) Keep well friend, Jerry From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Aug 7 14:42:11 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 17:42:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> Message-ID: Hi Orrin, I know exactly the piece you're referring to. The engine was a heavy-thumping semi-diesel, and one of the musicians was playing a squeezebox. It was a GREAT video; unfortunately I don't appear to have it bookmarked either. If you do recover the link, please post it. See ya, Arnie On Sun, August 7, 2011 1:12 am, Orrin Iseminger wrote: > I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. > I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. > > This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the > melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were > standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator > would walk past. Ring a bell? From fbi at insulate.co.uk Sun Aug 7 14:51:26 2011 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 22:51:26 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> Message-ID: <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> Not this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 Dolly > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel- > bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Orrin Iseminger > > I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. > I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. > > This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the > melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were > standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator > would walk past. Ring a bell? > > I've found several similar videos on YouTube; but, not this particular > one; I'm guessing it must reside on some other host site. > > Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty > such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine > doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. > (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start > Field Marshal tractor) > > Every little bit of help is welcome. > > Best regards, > > Orrin > In the unlikely case someone has not seen such a performance, here's a link: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbN-jO11vKg&feature=related From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 7 15:21:12 2011 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 15:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> Message-ID: <1312755672.5093.YahooMailClassic@web111723.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> On that one I just wish they had shut up for a bit so we could hear the engine better. ? Alan in Michigan --- On Sun, 8/7/11, Jim French wrote: From: Jim French Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Date: Sunday, August 7, 2011, 5:51 PM Not this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 Dolly > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel- > bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Orrin Iseminger > > I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. > I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. > > This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the > melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion.? They were > standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator > would walk past.? Ring a bell? > > I've found several similar videos on YouTube; but, not this particular > one; I'm guessing it must reside on some other host site. > > Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty > such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine > doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. > (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start > Field Marshal tractor) > > Every little bit of help is welcome. > > Best regards, > > Orrin > In the unlikely case someone has not seen such a performance, here's a link: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbN-jO11vKg&feature=related _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Sun Aug 7 15:45:51 2011 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 15:45:51 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video Message-ID: <20110807.154615.967.1161004@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> This is the one I remember. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ThSi1wbqU&feature=bf_prev&list=FLFibTsuT h5B4&index=59 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 3000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e3f15cb623244856d1st01vuc From oldengin1 at gmail.com Sun Aug 7 15:58:11 2011 From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 18:58:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Findlay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Annie and Dave, guess what it did in findlay again this afternoon... We pulled up camp and left around 3:00 and am soaked. Leroy On Aug 7, 2011 6:27 PM, "Alan" wrote: On that one I just wish they had shut up for a bit so we could hear the engine better. Alan in Michigan --- On Sun, 8/7/11, Jim French wrote: From: Jim French Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Date: Sunday, August 7, 2011, 5:51 PM Not this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 Dolly > ---... From skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com Sun Aug 7 16:22:27 2011 From: skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com (SKIP CLEVELAND) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 19:22:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video References: <1312755672.5093.YahooMailClassic@web111723.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <03BB04362D01411996A4A5253AF7CC43@YOURDA6F5028CB> Here you go. Google "guys playing music to the beat of a tractor" and you get it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXyNKxjkLls Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video On that one I just wish they had shut up for a bit so we could hear the engine better. Alan in Michigan --- On Sun, 8/7/11, Jim French wrote: From: Jim French Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Date: Sunday, August 7, 2011, 5:51 PM Not this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 Dolly > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel- > bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Orrin Iseminger > > I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. > I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. > > This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the > melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were > standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator > would walk past. Ring a bell? > > I've found several similar videos on YouTube; but, not this particular > one; I'm guessing it must reside on some other host site. > > Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty > such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine > doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. > (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start > Field Marshal tractor) > > Every little bit of help is welcome. > > Best regards, > > Orrin > In the unlikely case someone has not seen such a performance, here's a link: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbN-jO11vKg&feature=related _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From oldengin1 at gmail.com Sun Aug 7 16:27:44 2011 From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 19:27:44 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Findlay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dave. Archie, guess what happened in findlay this afternoon. We watched as melons flowed down the river, and it rose over the road again. Leroy On Aug 5, 2011 7:58 AM, "Russell" wrote: G'day all, I posted some pic's of my 3.5hp portable Hornsby a little while back, well I have the hubs for the wheel fitted, cooling tower shower cast and fitted, fuel system all done, adjustments to the sprayer, oiler wicks in the oil wells, ...... so the plan is to try and start it on Sunday! Well my good friend Greg and I just could not help ourselves. Hat to put some heat onto it today between work shifts. Let me just say she is a bloody ripper. Started real easy. Made a slight adjustment to the exhaust timing and away it went real nice. YeeeeHAAArrrrr ! We only had a short time to play. Looking forward to Sunday afternoon, will fill the water tank and give it a real good run. I will try my hand at vidoeing it and putting it on you tube? Russell _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com Sun Aug 7 16:35:30 2011 From: skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com (SKIP CLEVELAND) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 19:35:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> Message-ID: <47DDFAC3C4754586942BC993E296F8DC@YOURDA6F5028CB> This is the name of the video of three guys playing guitar to the beat of a tractor "3 Guitars and a Tractor" This is the link to what someone was looking for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG5Z25ker0A Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim French" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video > Not this one? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 > > Dolly > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel- >> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Orrin Iseminger >> >> I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. >> I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. >> >> This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the >> melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were >> standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator >> would walk past. Ring a bell? >> >> I've found several similar videos on YouTube; but, not this particular >> one; I'm guessing it must reside on some other host site. >> >> Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty >> such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine >> doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. >> (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start >> Field Marshal tractor) >> >> Every little bit of help is welcome. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Orrin >> In the unlikely case someone has not seen such a performance, here's a > link: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbN-jO11vKg&feature=related > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Aug 7 17:07:15 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 20:07:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Dolly, Nope, that's close, but not the one I'm thinking of. There was no singing, just instrumental. And definitely an engine, not a tractor. Someone has it bookmarked... See ya, Arnie On Sun, August 7, 2011 5:51 pm, Jim French wrote: > Not this one? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 > > Dolly From djohn2 at bigpond.net.au Sun Aug 7 20:37:33 2011 From: djohn2 at bigpond.net.au (derek) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 13:07:33 +0930 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> Message-ID: <000001cc557c$82801700$87804500$@net.au> http://guitarsquid.com/Latest/do-tractors-and-washing-machines-keep-better-t ime-than-a-drummer-10-videos-for-your-consideration.html http://www.bottleneckjohn.com/BJengines.htm -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Monday, 8 August 2011 09:37 To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video Hi Dolly, From service.ka at edwardsmotors.com.au Sun Aug 7 21:20:33 2011 From: service.ka at edwardsmotors.com.au (Chester Smith) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 12:20:33 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com><002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> Message-ID: <017501cc5582$84bc8ac0$210110ac@Chester> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Fero" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video > Hi Dolly, > > Nope, that's close, but not the one I'm thinking of. There was no > singing, just instrumental. And definitely an engine, not a tractor. > > Someone has it bookmarked... > > See ya, Arnie > > On Sun, August 7, 2011 5:51 pm, Jim French wrote: >> Not this one? >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 >> >> Dolly > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From service.ka at edwardsmotors.com.au Sun Aug 7 21:23:26 2011 From: service.ka at edwardsmotors.com.au (Chester Smith) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 12:23:26 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com><002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> Message-ID: <017901cc5582$ebad14c0$210110ac@Chester> I reckon you are thinking of this one Arnie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn7hMMo_FvQ&feature=related Cheers, Chester. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Fero" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video > Hi Dolly, > > Nope, that's close, but not the one I'm thinking of. There was no > singing, just instrumental. And definitely an engine, not a tractor. > > Someone has it bookmarked... > > See ya, Arnie > > On Sun, August 7, 2011 5:51 pm, Jim French wrote: >> Not this one? >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 >> >> Dolly > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From obise at moscow.com Sun Aug 7 21:40:08 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 21:40:08 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20110807185558.01fd20b0@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110807185558.01fd20b0@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: <4E3F68A8.7090408@moscow.com> On 8/7/2011 10:00 AM, Jerry Evans wrote: > At 06:00 PM 07/08/2011, you wrote: >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 22:12:03 -0700 >> From: Orrin Iseminger >> Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video >> >> I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. >> I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. >> >> This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the >> melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were >> standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator >> would walk past. Ring a bell? >> >> I've found several similar videos on YouTube; but, not this particular >> one; I'm guessing it must reside on some other host site. >> >> Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty >> such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine >> doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. >> (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start >> Field Marshal tractor) >> >> Every little bit of help is welcome. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Orrin >> In the unlikely case someone has not seen such a performance, here's a link: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbN-jO11vKg&feature=related > Hi Orrin, > My immediate thought was to the one you supplied a link to. I have > that saved. > > I cannot help with your request but would also suggest that you > search for : Eaglesmith - Small Motors" a really great song which we could > all identify with. > > I hope that they play it at my funeral one day (hopefully not too > soon) :-) > > Keep well friend, > Jerry > Jerry, I may have sent out the link; but, now it is nowhere to be found. That sort of thing happens to me every so often, like three or four times a minute. :-) I watched and listened to Fred Eaglesmith's "Small Motors." It's appropriate, all right. When it finished, the "Up Next" pane flashed "My Last Six Dollars." That's the one I'm picking for my funeral. It describes my wild-oat years, perfectly. We're well, here, and hoping you, yours and your lady friend are the same. Is she all healed up from her injuries, yet? Last night my power lineman son stopped by and said he's considering taking a job in SA. I told him some of the things you've told about the country; but, he'd still like to give it a try, just to be able to say he's been there. Some of his acquaintances are already there, so they've filled him in on what it is like. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. From obise at moscow.com Sun Aug 7 21:42:47 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 21:42:47 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> Message-ID: <4E3F6947.9010309@moscow.com> Arnie, you nailed it. That's the one. Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 8/7/2011 2:42 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Hi Orrin, > > I know exactly the piece you're referring to. The engine was a > heavy-thumping semi-diesel, and one of the musicians was playing a > squeezebox. It was a GREAT video; unfortunately I don't appear to have it > bookmarked either. > > If you do recover the link, please post it. > > See ya, Arnie > > On Sun, August 7, 2011 1:12 am, Orrin Iseminger wrote: >> I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. >> I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. >> >> This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the >> melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were >> standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator >> would walk past. Ring a bell? > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From obise at moscow.com Sun Aug 7 21:45:44 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 21:45:44 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> Message-ID: <4E3F69F8.4080107@moscow.com> Thank you for helping, Dolly; but, that's not it. The one that Arnie and I have in mind is a little more upbeat, IIRC. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 8/7/2011 2:51 PM, Jim French wrote: > Not this one? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 > > Dolly > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel- >> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Orrin Iseminger >> >> I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. >> I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. >> >> This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the >> melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were >> standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator >> would walk past. Ring a bell? >> >> I've found several similar videos on YouTube; but, not this particular >> one; I'm guessing it must reside on some other host site. >> >> Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty >> such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine >> doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. >> (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start >> Field Marshal tractor) >> >> Every little bit of help is welcome. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Orrin >> In the unlikely case someone has not seen such a performance, here's a > link: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbN-jO11vKg&feature=related > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From obise at moscow.com Sun Aug 7 21:50:54 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 21:50:54 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <20110807.154615.967.1161004@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110807.154615.967.1161004@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <4E3F6B2E.6010500@moscow.com> That's a good one, Ron, and the one I used to sell the idea. That may have been a tactical mistake, however. Now, everybody is expecting a performance just as good. :-) Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 8/7/2011 3:45 PM, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote: > This is the one I remember. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ThSi1wbqU&feature=bf_prev&list=FLFibTsuT > h5B4&index=59 > > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > From obise at moscow.com Sun Aug 7 21:53:56 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 21:53:56 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <03BB04362D01411996A4A5253AF7CC43@YOURDA6F5028CB> References: <1312755672.5093.YahooMailClassic@web111723.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <03BB04362D01411996A4A5253AF7CC43@YOURDA6F5028CB> Message-ID: <4E3F6BE4.9050509@moscow.com> That's a good one, Skip, however I'm still looking for that elusive engine one. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 8/7/2011 4:22 PM, SKIP CLEVELAND wrote: > Here you go. Google "guys playing music to the beat of a tractor" and you get it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXyNKxjkLls > > Skip > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 6:21 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video > > > On that one I just wish they had shut up for a bit so we could hear the engine better. > > Alan in Michigan > > --- On Sun, 8/7/11, Jim French wrote: > > > From: Jim French > Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video > To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" > Date: Sunday, August 7, 2011, 5:51 PM > > > Not this one? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 > > Dolly > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel- >> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Orrin Iseminger >> >> I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. >> I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. >> >> This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the >> melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were >> standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator >> would walk past. Ring a bell? >> >> I've found several similar videos on YouTube; but, not this particular >> one; I'm guessing it must reside on some other host site. >> >> Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty >> such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine >> doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. >> (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start >> Field Marshal tractor) >> >> Every little bit of help is welcome. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Orrin >> In the unlikely case someone has not seen such a performance, here's a > link: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbN-jO11vKg&feature=related > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From obise at moscow.com Sun Aug 7 22:02:22 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 22:02:22 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <000001cc557c$82801700$87804500$@net.au> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> <000001cc557c$82801700$87804500$@net.au> Message-ID: <4E3F6DDE.2040407@moscow.com> Thank you for that, Derek. #6, the Oompa Band, is a hoot. :-) Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 8/7/2011 8:37 PM, derek wrote: > http://guitarsquid.com/Latest/do-tractors-and-washing-machines-keep-better-t > ime-than-a-drummer-10-videos-for-your-consideration.html > http://www.bottleneckjohn.com/BJengines.htm > > > From obise at moscow.com Sun Aug 7 22:14:19 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 22:14:19 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <017901cc5582$ebad14c0$210110ac@Chester> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com><002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> <017901cc5582$ebad14c0$210110ac@Chester> Message-ID: <4E3F70AB.8070502@moscow.com> That's it, Chester! That's the one! Teusen tuck! (thousand thanks) Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 8/7/2011 9:23 PM, Chester Smith wrote: > I reckon you are thinking of this one Arnie. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn7hMMo_FvQ&feature=related > > Cheers, Chester. From oldengin1 at gmail.com Mon Aug 8 03:06:55 2011 From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 06:06:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Findlay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Annie. Dave guess what it did sunday the river never did get out of her banks. We had a great show. From oldengin1 at gmail.com Mon Aug 8 03:03:28 2011 From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 06:03:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> <017901cc5582$ebad14c0$210110ac@Chester> <4E3F70AB.8070502@moscow.com> Message-ID: Annie yours had the squeeze box and a fellow that danced a little . On Aug 8, 2011 1:27 AM, "Orrin Iseminger" wrote: That's it, Chester! That's the one! Teusen tuck! (thousand thanks) Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many ... On 8/7/2011 9:23 PM, Chester Smith wrote: > I reckon you are thinking of this one Arnie. > > http://... _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com htt... From jnyost at yahoo.com Mon Aug 8 03:35:28 2011 From: jnyost at yahoo.com (James Yost) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 03:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Findlay Message-ID: <1312799728.75897.yint-ygo-j2me@web112604.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> This show is always great. It was great seeing all that showed up. Without saying the corn and melon was "SUPER GOOD". Hope all made it home safe. See ya at Portland. Jim and Janna Yost On Mon Aug 8th, 2011 6:06 AM EDT Leroy Clark wrote: >Annie. Dave guess what it did sunday the river never did get out of her >banks. We had a great show. >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Mon Aug 8 07:33:36 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George (DS)) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 09:33:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCED665C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> FIVE bucks!? Someone is ripping you off if you're charged $5 a shell. Never figured the cost on mine, but I'm sure it was well under an $1 a shell. Empty 12 gauge casings shouldn't cost you anything as your hunting or shooting friends can supply them for nothing. Basically, the primer and the powder are your only cost. I admit I haven't had to buy primers or powder for many years, but would still think it shouldn't cost much to reload starting shells. I've had a Field Marshall for over 15 years, and reload starting shells work fine. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Orrin Iseminger Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start Field Marshal tractor) Every little bit of help is welcome. Best regards, Orrin This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Aug 8 10:02:12 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 13:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Innovation in the Obamanation Message-ID: This is so incredibly perfect!! Innovation in the Obamanation is all about Hope & Change. Nothing actually needs to work. 8-)) http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/ideas/2011/07/welcome-to-the-department-of-innovation/ PS - Just in case the ol' brain is sluggish this morning, check the gear train in the logo. Priceless... From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Aug 8 11:00:06 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 20:00:06 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110808194419.01aac2e8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 08/08/2011, you wrote: >Message: 14 >Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 21:40:08 -0700 >From: Orrin Iseminger > >On 8/7/2011 10:00 AM, Jerry Evans wrote: > > At 06:00 PM 07/08/2011, you wrote: > >> Message: 1 > > >Jerry, I may have sent out the link; but, now it is nowhere to be >found. That sort >of thing happens to me every so often, like three or four times a >minute. :-) > >I watched and listened to Fred Eaglesmith's "Small Motors." It's >appropriate, >all right. When it finished, the "Up Next" pane flashed "My Last Six >Dollars." >That's the one I'm picking for my funeral. It describes my wild-oat years, >perfectly. > >We're well, here, and hoping you, yours and your lady friend are the same. >Is she all healed up from her injuries, yet? > >Last night my power lineman son stopped by and said he's considering taking >a job in SA. I told him some of the things you've told about the >country; but, >he'd still like to give it a try, just to be able to say he's been >there. Some of his >acquaintances are already there, so they've filled him in on what it is >like. > >Best regards, > >Orrin Hi Orrin, I checked out the YouTube videos of "Small Motors" by Fred Eaglesmith and was a bit disappointed. I have an .mp3 file (sound- no video) which is really great and has a lot more than the videos. For anyone interested, I've put a copy here: Stephanie is doing well - still in a wheelchair but doing a bit on crutches every day. Seems that crushed feet and ankle bones need some time to heal before putting all your weight on to them (she's not very "heavy" but still needs to be careful) :-) Let us know what happens re your son and we will give any assistance that we can. It's not too bad here if you are careful. I'd rather be here than New York or Chicago :-) (Tell him that Jacqui is taken but she's got friends :-)) Keep well, Jerry From obise at moscow.com Mon Aug 8 12:08:55 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 12:08:55 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCED665C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCED665C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <4E403447.1030103@moscow.com> George, I thought the number was a bit inflated; but, I'm not about to tell the most important member of this musical gig that he's wrong. :-) I'm equipped to to the reloading, so after the dust clears I'll fix him up with as many blanks as he'll ever need. You can be sure I'll lend the guy a helping hand if that is what he is actually paying. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 8/8/2011 7:33 AM, Best, George (DS) wrote: > FIVE bucks!? > > Someone is ripping you off if you're charged $5 a shell. > > Never figured the cost on mine, but I'm sure it was well under an $1 a shell. > Empty 12 gauge casings shouldn't cost you anything as your hunting or shooting friends can supply them for nothing. > Basically, the primer and the powder are your only cost. > I admit I haven't had to buy primers or powder for many years, but would still think it shouldn't cost much to reload starting shells. > > I've had a Field Marshall for over 15 years, and reload starting shells work fine. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Orrin Iseminger > > > Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty > such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine > doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. > (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start > Field Marshal tractor) > > Every little bit of help is welcome. > > Best regards, > > Orrin > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Mon Aug 8 12:45:32 2011 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 15:45:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Latest big haul of engines :) In-Reply-To: <4E403447.1030103@moscow.com> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCED665C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>, <4E403447.1030103@moscow.com> Message-ID: Here is a link to pictures from my latest big haul of engines :) http://gasenginetom.com/buying_NY_collection.html Tom Winland Ohio From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Aug 8 14:50:45 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 17:50:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Latest big haul of engines :) In-Reply-To: References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCED665C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>, <4E403447.1030103@moscow.com> Message-ID: <18b3befbbefec99e68238c70e9ee0b21.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Tom, That's a SERIOUS load of Olde Iron!! Arnie On Mon, August 8, 2011 3:45 pm, Tom Winland wrote: > > Here is a link to pictures from my latest big haul of engines :) > http://gasenginetom.com/buying_NY_collection.html From George_Best at adp.com Mon Aug 8 15:24:15 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George (DS)) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 17:24:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Latest big haul of engines :) In-Reply-To: <18b3befbbefec99e68238c70e9ee0b21.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCED665C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>, <4E403447.1030103@moscow.com> <18b3befbbefec99e68238c70e9ee0b21.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCFA064E@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> With both Jon and Tom buying so much, Ohio has become a serious importer of old iron! On a state by state basis probably more iron is going into Ohio than any other state. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 2:51 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Latest big haul of engines :) Tom, That's a SERIOUS load of Olde Iron!! Arnie On Mon, August 8, 2011 3:45 pm, Tom Winland wrote: > > Here is a link to pictures from my latest big haul of engines :) > http://gasenginetom.com/buying_NY_collection.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Mon Aug 8 16:11:14 2011 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 16:11:14 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Innovation in the Obamanation In-Reply-To: <8f97f12338beeadfcfe30fb2813b272d.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <8f97f12338beeadfcfe30fb2813b272d.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: <9E561BBF7FBD42E89665DA69CC28331F@JandDHP> Somebody must have been told that the gears won't turn. If you click on the link you will see that the right hand gear has been moved upward so as to clear the others. In spite of that the tooth spacing is out to lunch and tooth shape is right along with it. -----Original Message----- From: Arnie Fero Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 9:46 AM To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org ; slick at toltbbs.com ; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Innovation in the Obamanation This is so incredibly perfect!! Innovation in the Obamanation is all about Hope & Change. Nothing actually needs to work. 8-)) http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/ideas/2011/07/welcome-to-the-department-of-innovation/ PS - Just in case the ol' brain is sluggish this morning, check the gear train in the logo. Priceless... ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1391 / Virus Database: 1520/3821 - Release Date: 08/08/11 From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Mon Aug 8 19:18:01 2011 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 22:18:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Latest big haul of engines :) In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCFA064E@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com>, , <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCED665C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>, , <4E403447.1030103@moscow.com> , <18b3befbbefec99e68238c70e9ee0b21.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCFA064E@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: LOL maybe George, but we do our share of exporting too Tom > From: George_Best at adp.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 17:24:15 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Latest big haul of engines :) > > With both Jon and Tom buying so much, Ohio has become a serious importer of old iron! > > On a state by state basis probably more iron is going into Ohio than any other state. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 2:51 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Latest big haul of engines :) > > Tom, That's a SERIOUS load of Olde Iron!! Arnie > > On Mon, August 8, 2011 3:45 pm, Tom Winland wrote: > > > > Here is a link to pictures from my latest big haul of engines :) > > http://gasenginetom.com/buying_NY_collection.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Mon Aug 8 20:18:06 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:18:06 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Bringing the toys home Message-ID: I am finally getting some time to organise the new workshop. So far two loads of engines have made it home. On the first batch to make it home was the Fairbanks-Morse No.1 Eclipse and my flywheel governed 1hp R&V. The next trip consisted of the 3.5hp Austral Oil Engine portable and the flyball governed 1hp R&V. Last weekend I hauled home the 2hp R&V, Baker 'Little Monitor' and 4hp Challenge. Some of these engines have been in storage for a long time so need a little TLC. So far I have had the Eclipse, Austral and one of the R&Vs running. I now have to finish sorting out the workshop and make some room for a couple more to come home. I did manage to get a couple of fires out of the Challenge last night but it has not been touched since 2003 so needs a little work. It blew a heap of crap out of the priming cup as I was rolling it over (with the buzz coil connected) and drew quite a bit of blood from my forehead. Stupid me not disconnecting the coil. Patrick Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Aug 8 20:58:09 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 23:58:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <017901cc5582$ebad14c0$210110ac@Chester> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com><002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> <017901cc5582$ebad14c0$210110ac@Chester> Message-ID: <3229a8abe1f55f19dfb627fa0c9c94c5.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> Chester, THAT'S IT!!! Thanks!! See ya, Arnie On Mon, August 8, 2011 12:23 am, Chester Smith wrote: > I reckon you are thinking of this one Arnie. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn7hMMo_FvQ&feature=related > > Cheers, Chester. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arnie Fero" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 8:07 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video > > >> Hi Dolly, >> >> Nope, that's close, but not the one I'm thinking of. There was no >> singing, just instrumental. And definitely an engine, not a tractor. >> >> Someone has it bookmarked... >> >> See ya, Arnie >> >> On Sun, August 7, 2011 5:51 pm, Jim French wrote: >>> Not this one? >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 >>> >>> Dolly >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From elidas at aol.com Tue Aug 9 19:48:11 2011 From: elidas at aol.com (Elida Semanoff) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 22:48:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Latest big haul of engines :) In-Reply-To: References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCED665C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>, <4E403447.1030103@moscow.com> Message-ID: <8CE251F139465EF-1A6C-7D6D@webmail-m024.sysops.aol.com> -----Original Message----- From: Tom Winland To: SEL list Sent: Mon, Aug 8, 2011 2:56 pm Subject: [SEL] Latest big haul of engines :) ere is a link to pictures from my latest big haul of engines :) http://gasenginetom.com/buying_NY_collection.html om Winland hio I see a nice Coldwell with a Fuller and Johnson on it. Good haul! ______________________________________________ EL mailing list EL at lists.stationary-engine.com ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Wed Aug 10 18:01:46 2011 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:01:46 -0600 Subject: [SEL] 5hp Ottawa Drag Saw Message-ID: G'day all...life is good' Buddy of mine who doesn't do cyberspace has a 5hp Ottawa Dragsaw, TG, EK Fired, both valves mechanically actuated and runs around 500 rpm. It will boil water in a matter of minutes and he's wondering what the timing should be. Says he can't find any reference on the newer engine with both valves mechanically actuated. Said he'd sure appreciate some help so told him I'd post on here. Any ideas?? RickinMt. From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Aug 10 21:24:25 2011 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:24:25 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 5hp Ottawa Drag Saw Message-ID: <20110810.212507.962.1617709@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com> Hi Rick. The generic timing for the old engines is 5 degrees of advance for each 100 rpm. So 25 degrees of advance at 500. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:01:46 -0600 "Richard Strobel" writes: > G'day all...life is good' > Buddy of mine who doesn't do cyberspace has a 5hp Ottawa Dragsaw, > TG, EK > Fired, both valves mechanically actuated and runs around 500 rpm. > It will > boil water in a matter of minutes and he's wondering what the timing > should > be. Says he can't find any reference on the newer engine with both > valves > mechanically actuated. > > Said he'd sure appreciate some help so told him I'd post on here. > > Any ideas?? > > RickinMt. ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 3000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e4359cd8f78c554793st04vuc From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Aug 10 21:26:27 2011 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:26:27 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 5hp Ottawa Drag Saw Message-ID: <20110810.212708.962.1617717@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com> Correction Rick. It is 5 degrees for low tension ignition, and 3 for high tension. So it should be 15 degrees for his engine. Ron. On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:01:46 -0600 "Richard Strobel" writes: > G'day all...life is good' > Buddy of mine who doesn't do cyberspace has a 5hp Ottawa Dragsaw, > TG, EK > Fired, both valves mechanically actuated and runs around 500 rpm. > It will > boil water in a matter of minutes and he's wondering what the timing > should > be. Says he can't find any reference on the newer engine with both > valves > mechanically actuated. > > Said he'd sure appreciate some help so told him I'd post on here. > > Any ideas?? > > RickinMt. ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 3000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e435a47a66ea554982st06vuc From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Thu Aug 11 19:17:51 2011 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 20:17:51 -0600 Subject: [SEL] 5hp Ottawa Drag Saw In-Reply-To: <20110810.212708.962.1617717@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110810.212708.962.1617717@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Thanks Ron..after playing with it, he's says it runs much better. Regards, RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] 5hp Ottawa Drag Saw > Correction Rick. It is 5 degrees for low tension ignition, and 3 for > high tension. So it should be 15 degrees for his engine. > Ron. > > On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:01:46 -0600 "Richard Strobel" > writes: > > G'day all...life is good' > > Buddy of mine who doesn't do cyberspace has a 5hp Ottawa Dragsaw, > > TG, EK > > Fired, both valves mechanically actuated and runs around 500 rpm. > > It will > > boil water in a matter of minutes and he's wondering what the timing > > should > > be. Says he can't find any reference on the newer engine with both > > valves > > mechanically actuated. > > > > Said he'd sure appreciate some help so told him I'd post on here. > > > > Any ideas?? > > > > RickinMt. > ____________________________________________________________ > Penny Stock Jumping 3000% > Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e435a47a66ea554982st06vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From cgandree at mchsi.com Sat Aug 13 03:46:58 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 05:46:58 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed Message-ID: <761017488.9677391313232417916.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Hi all, Trying to set the timing on a older 3hp Witte with a EK mag. I could use a detailed pic of how to set the timing for where the trip arm and mag should be set to fire correctly. I am not sure if all the parts are there as some one prior have stuck some flat washers in with the trip arm spring, trying to compensate or something. Any and all help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance, Curt Andree From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Aug 13 07:10:15 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 10:10:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed In-Reply-To: <761017488.9677391313232417916.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: <761017488.9677391313232417916.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <66b76e6bf01fb4e801190d2600f7d131.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> Hi Curt, Download a manual for the EK mag from one of the sites like Internal Fire or Jerry Evans. It has great directions and sketches for all of the different types of EK trip. Also if you download a manual for the Witte it will show you how to use a stick (or other straightedge) to line-up the timing marks on the flywheel rim with the top of the water hopper. One other comment... Sometimes I've found that when I've had EK mag trouble, it's helped to replace the springs in the trip. If you tell any of the "mag guys" which type of trip you have they can send you the correct springs. See ya, Arnie On Sat, August 13, 2011 6:46 am, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > Hi all, > Trying to set the timing on a older 3hp Witte with a EK mag. I could use > a detailed pic of how to set the timing for where the trip arm and mag > should be set to fire correctly. I am not sure if all the parts are there > as some one prior have stuck some flat washers in with the trip arm > spring, trying to compensate or something. From Germoamer at aol.com Sat Aug 13 08:13:09 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:13:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed Message-ID: <37ea3.51a3ada5.3b77ee85@aol.com> In a message dated 8/13/2011 6:57:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cgandree at mchsi.com writes: I am not sure if all the parts are there as someone prior have stuck some flat washers in with the trip arm spring, Curt, Lots of times you will find washers with the trip arm springs. For some reason the springs were made short and the washers were used to take all the slack out of the spring, or even to slightly compress it. I asked someone who had been in this business for for a long time how come this was, and he had no answer other than that is the way it was done years ago. Most all of mine are shimmed tight with the washers. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at aol.com From russell at ncable.com.au Mon Aug 15 15:25:08 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:25:08 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland show In-Reply-To: <39118a132e1b270f8ad00dc56fa62f3c.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>, <2753ba566910ac2b49e1a7d376d7042e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>, , <0ecbae87eea67dc31488d94b14f5b06f.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> <1ff4a512e3c53a5e2b1a5f19d5e6138a.squirrel@webmail2.web.com> <39118a132e1b270f8ad00dc56fa62f3c.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: <43C5AB41-1AB8-4AB5-B7BA-2E522D9E332B@ncable.com.au> G'day all you lucky folk going to Portland again this year. There will be another Aussie poking about (not me unfortunately) whom I have said to find the SEL area and say hi. His name is John Rutherford; If any of you guys get the TOMM (aussie engine mag) you have read the stories of some of his engine restorations. Very cluey with casting and machining. He has done some great work for me over the time. I mentioned Dave, Arnie and the Royster boys to him. He may have some questions on how to get some stuff brought home. If you are able to give him some humble advice that would be great. regards Russell From rdi at rochester.rr.com Mon Aug 15 16:26:13 2011 From: rdi at rochester.rr.com (Rick I.) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:26:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed References: Message-ID: <4C986D26BB6A4C1098EEBE6BA1391C51@marlin> > In a message dated 8/13/2011 6:57:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > cgandree at mchsi.com writes: > > I am not sure if all the parts are there as someone prior have stuck some > flat washers in with the trip arm spring, On a "Type #2" drive (if that's what you find you have), there is also a long bolt that is hidden inside the center of the drive spring (that drives the trip finger forward). If this bolt backs out a little, everything with the trip will LOOK like it's working just dandy when you spin the flywheels, but it will in fact not snap forward fast enough to produce a spark. -Rick I. From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Aug 15 17:30:38 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:30:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland show In-Reply-To: <43C5AB41-1AB8-4AB5-B7BA-2E522D9E332B@ncable.com.au> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>, <2753ba566910ac2b49e1a7d376d7042e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>, , <0ecbae87eea67dc31488d94b14f5b06f.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com><1ff4a512e3c53a5e2b1a5f19d5e6138a.squirrel@webmail2.web.com><39118a132e1b270f8ad00dc56fa62f3c.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> <43C5AB41-1AB8-4AB5-B7BA-2E522D9E332B@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Russell: You know we will do our best to make John feel at home, we have all the comforts of home and the medicine to cure any ills. Plus, you know how I love to import export. Tell him to look for the good Royster stand by the bad Royster! MR -----Original Message----- From: Russell Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:25 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Portland show G'day all you lucky folk going to Portland again this year. There will be another Aussie poking about (not me unfortunately) whom I have said to find the SEL area and say hi. His name is John Rutherford; If any of you guys get the TOMM (aussie engine mag) you have read the stories of some of his engine restorations. Very cluey with casting and machining. He has done some great work for me over the time. I mentioned Dave, Arnie and the Royster boys to him. He may have some questions on how to get some stuff brought home. If you are able to give him some humble advice that would be great. regards Russell _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From cgandree at mchsi.com Mon Aug 15 17:43:33 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:43:33 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed In-Reply-To: <4C986D26BB6A4C1098EEBE6BA1391C51@marlin> Message-ID: <331740475.10012211313455413479.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Rick, Not sure what exactly your talking about as far as a hidden bolt. I check for that and don't see one. thanks, Curt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick I." To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:26:13 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed > In a message dated 8/13/2011 6:57:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > cgandree at mchsi.com writes: > > I am not sure if all the parts are there as someone prior have stuck some > flat washers in with the trip arm spring, On a "Type #2" drive (if that's what you find you have), there is also a long bolt that is hidden inside the center of the drive spring (that drives the trip finger forward). If this bolt backs out a little, everything with the trip will LOOK like it's working just dandy when you spin the flywheels, but it will in fact not snap forward fast enough to produce a spark. -Rick I. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From asouth42 at embarqmail.com Mon Aug 15 17:55:59 2011 From: asouth42 at embarqmail.com (Arthur&Deana Southwell) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:55:59 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <000001cc557c$82801700$87804500$@net.au> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> <000001cc557c$82801700$87804500$@net.au> Message-ID: Is this any where near what you are looking for? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDHzK3Xe7Yw -------------------------------------------------- From: "derek" Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 11:37 PM To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video > http://guitarsquid.com/Latest/do-tractors-and-washing-machines-keep-better-t > ime-than-a-drummer-10-videos-for-your-consideration.html > http://www.bottleneckjohn.com/BJengines.htm > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero > Sent: Monday, 8 August 2011 09:37 > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video > > Hi Dolly, > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1391 / Virus Database: 1520/3820 - Release Date: 08/07/11 > From rotigel at me.com Mon Aug 15 17:59:42 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:59:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed In-Reply-To: <331740475.10012211313455413479.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: <331740475.10012211313455413479.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <67A78210-325E-41A9-BD99-E43F616D3F1A@me.com> That's why it's called "hidden" curt! Dave On Aug 15, 2011, at 8:43 PM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > Rick, > Not sure what exactly your talking about as far as a hidden bolt. I > check for that and don't see one. > thanks, > Curt > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick I." > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:26:13 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed > >> In a message dated 8/13/2011 6:57:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> cgandree at mchsi.com writes: >> >> I am not sure if all the parts are there as someone prior have >> stuck some >> flat washers in with the trip arm spring, > > On a "Type #2" drive (if that's what you find you have), there is > also a > long bolt that is hidden inside the center of the drive spring (that > drives > the trip finger forward). If this bolt backs out a little, > everything with > the trip will LOOK like it's working just dandy when you spin the > flywheels, > but it will in fact not snap forward fast enough to produce a spark. > > -Rick I. From tchristoff at earthlink.net Mon Aug 15 19:30:25 2011 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:30:25 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [SEL] Portland show Message-ID: <32720420.1313461825884.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> -----Original Message----- >From: Mike Royster Tell him to look for the good Royster stand by the >bad Royster! > >MR > The Good Royster????????????????????????????????? Tim Tim Christoff From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Aug 15 20:11:57 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:11:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland show In-Reply-To: <32720420.1313461825884.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <32720420.1313461825884.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Ain't that a puzzle????? -----Original Message----- From: Tim Christoff Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 10:30 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show -----Original Message----- >From: Mike Royster Tell him to look for the good Royster stand by the >bad Royster! > >MR > The Good Royster????????????????????????????????? Tim Tim Christoff _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From obise at moscow.com Mon Aug 15 21:03:02 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:03:02 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> <000001cc557c$82801700$87804500$@net.au> Message-ID: <4E49EBF6.6060502@moscow.com> Chester found it for us. This is it: Gunnar, Ronny og Rapp IC 17 hk semidiesel 1946 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn7hMMo_FvQ&feature=related I got out my Cushman, today, and was able to match the oil engine's beat and even go slower, if need be; hopefully, the musicians can use it as their percussion section. Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 8/15/2011 5:55 PM, Arthur&Deana Southwell wrote: > Is this any where near what you are looking for? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDHzK3Xe7Yw From cgandree at mchsi.com Tue Aug 16 04:28:10 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 06:28:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed In-Reply-To: <67A78210-325E-41A9-BD99-E43F616D3F1A@me.com> Message-ID: <1628902626.10052231313494090754.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Ok, Ok Mr. Dave good come back. I will let you show me where the heck its hiding at, at Baraboo this week! Curt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:59:42 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed That's why it's called "hidden" curt! Dave On Aug 15, 2011, at 8:43 PM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > Rick, > Not sure what exactly your talking about as far as a hidden bolt. I > check for that and don't see one. > thanks, > Curt > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick I." > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:26:13 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed > >> In a message dated 8/13/2011 6:57:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> cgandree at mchsi.com writes: >> >> I am not sure if all the parts are there as someone prior have >> stuck some >> flat washers in with the trip arm spring, > > On a "Type #2" drive (if that's what you find you have), there is > also a > long bolt that is hidden inside the center of the drive spring (that > drives > the trip finger forward). If this bolt backs out a little, > everything with > the trip will LOOK like it's working just dandy when you spin the > flywheels, > but it will in fact not snap forward fast enough to produce a spark. > > -Rick I. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Tue Aug 16 05:45:51 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:45:51 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed In-Reply-To: <1628902626.10052231313494090754.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: <1628902626.10052231313494090754.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <412AF1E1-AD97-4C20-BCB0-21F42930DE63@me.com> Looking forward to seeing you Curt! Arnie and I will meet for breakfast at 5:00 a.m. and be on the road by 6:00! Dave On Aug 16, 2011, at 7:28 AM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > Ok, Ok Mr. Dave good come back. I will let you show me where the > heck its hiding at, at Baraboo this week! > Curt > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Rotigel" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:59:42 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed > > That's why it's called "hidden" curt! > Dave > > On Aug 15, 2011, at 8:43 PM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > >> Rick, >> Not sure what exactly your talking about as far as a hidden bolt. I >> check for that and don't see one. >> thanks, >> Curt >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rick I." >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:26:13 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed >> >>> In a message dated 8/13/2011 6:57:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> cgandree at mchsi.com writes: >>> >>> I am not sure if all the parts are there as someone prior have >>> stuck some >>> flat washers in with the trip arm spring, >> >> On a "Type #2" drive (if that's what you find you have), there is >> also a >> long bolt that is hidden inside the center of the drive spring (that >> drives >> the trip finger forward). If this bolt backs out a little, >> everything with >> the trip will LOOK like it's working just dandy when you spin the >> flywheels, >> but it will in fact not snap forward fast enough to produce a spark. >> >> -Rick I. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From cgandree at mchsi.com Tue Aug 16 06:21:50 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:21:50 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed In-Reply-To: <412AF1E1-AD97-4C20-BCB0-21F42930DE63@me.com> Message-ID: <2084575945.10067761313500910441.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Same here Dave. I will be there tomorrow am to set up and if you guys need anything give me a shout. DRIVE SAFE! Curt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:45:51 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed Looking forward to seeing you Curt! Arnie and I will meet for breakfast at 5:00 a.m. and be on the road by 6:00! Dave On Aug 16, 2011, at 7:28 AM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > Ok, Ok Mr. Dave good come back. I will let you show me where the > heck its hiding at, at Baraboo this week! > Curt > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Rotigel" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:59:42 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed > > That's why it's called "hidden" curt! > Dave > > On Aug 15, 2011, at 8:43 PM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > >> Rick, >> Not sure what exactly your talking about as far as a hidden bolt. I >> check for that and don't see one. >> thanks, >> Curt >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rick I." >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:26:13 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed >> >>> In a message dated 8/13/2011 6:57:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> cgandree at mchsi.com writes: >>> >>> I am not sure if all the parts are there as someone prior have >>> stuck some >>> flat washers in with the trip arm spring, >> >> On a "Type #2" drive (if that's what you find you have), there is >> also a >> long bolt that is hidden inside the center of the drive spring (that >> drives >> the trip finger forward). If this bolt backs out a little, >> everything with >> the trip will LOOK like it's working just dandy when you spin the >> flywheels, >> but it will in fact not snap forward fast enough to produce a spark. >> >> -Rick I. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From langer5 at xplornet.ca Tue Aug 16 07:00:00 2011 From: langer5 at xplornet.ca (Larry Anger) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:00:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" Message-ID: Just wondering if there is a traditional gathering this year at the "Back 40 Junction" on Thursday night during the Portland show? Larry Anger From Jim at hardmanfamily.net Tue Aug 16 07:37:06 2011 From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net (Jim Hardman) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:37:06 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Model A Ford Engine Message-ID: <1384E04F6EFC4BE08F683E79AFE5D00B@JamesDesktop> Interesting video, a junk engine resurrected to teach youngsters... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2LWwZI1LM&feature=youtu.be From steve_royster at hotmail.com Tue Aug 16 08:30:55 2011 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:30:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland show In-Reply-To: References: <32720420.1313461825884.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>, Message-ID: I forgot, Which one of us is the good Royster?? Steve > From: mr at carolina.rr.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:11:57 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show > > Ain't that a puzzle????? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Christoff > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 10:30 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show > > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Mike Royster > Tell him to look for the good Royster stand by the > >bad Royster! > > > >MR > > > The Good Royster????????????????????????????????? > > Tim > > Tim Christoff > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Aug 16 09:15:42 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:15:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland show In-Reply-To: <43C5AB41-1AB8-4AB5-B7BA-2E522D9E332B@ncable.com.au> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>, <2753ba566910ac2b49e1a7d376d7042e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>, , <0ecbae87eea67dc31488d94b14f5b06f.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> <1ff4a512e3c53a5e2b1a5f19d5e6138a.squirrel@webmail2.web.com> <39118a132e1b270f8ad00dc56fa62f3c.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> <43C5AB41-1AB8-4AB5-B7BA-2E522D9E332B@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <4dd8199bf7c44667c534a0ff07827aaa.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> G'day Russell, Getting stuff back home? Bloody hell mate, who has more experience than you do? You've shipped engines, bits and bobs, and a whole bloody Corvette back to Oz. What could we possibly add to your vast and successful experience? The other option is Reggie's "overweight luggage." 8-)) See ya, Arnie On Mon, August 15, 2011 6:25 pm, Russell wrote: > G'day all you lucky folk going to Portland again this year. There will be > another Aussie poking about (not me unfortunately) whom I have said to > find the SEL area and say hi. His name is John Rutherford; If any of you > guys get the TOMM (aussie engine mag) you have read the stories of some of > his engine restorations. Very cluey with casting and machining. He has > done some great work for me over the time. I mentioned Dave, Arnie and the > Royster boys to him. He may have some questions on how to get some stuff > brought home. If you are able to give him some humble advice that would be > great. > > regards Russell > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Tue Aug 16 09:31:18 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:31:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland show In-Reply-To: <4dd8199bf7c44667c534a0ff07827aaa.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> <2753ba566910ac2b49e1a7d376d7042e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> <0ecbae87eea67dc31488d94b14f5b06f.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> <1ff4a512e3c53a5e2b1a5f19d5e6138a.squirrel@webmail2.web.com> <39118a132e1b270f8ad00dc56fa62f3c.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> <43C5AB41-1AB8-4AB5-B7BA-2E522D9E332B@ncable.com.au> <4dd8199bf7c44667c534a0ff07827aaa.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: <395C04E5-C797-457F-8952-65796AEE023F@me.com> And we should all remember the illegal fly swatter that Reg tried to smuggle into OZ as well! Dave On Aug 16, 2011, at 12:15 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > G'day Russell, > > Getting stuff back home? Bloody hell mate, who has more experience > than > you do? You've shipped engines, bits and bobs, and a whole bloody > Corvette back to Oz. > What could we possibly add to your vast and successful experience? > > The other option is Reggie's "overweight luggage." 8-)) > > See ya, Arnie > > On Mon, August 15, 2011 6:25 pm, Russell wrote: >> G'day all you lucky folk going to Portland again this year. There >> will be >> another Aussie poking about (not me unfortunately) whom I have said >> to >> find the SEL area and say hi. His name is John Rutherford; If any >> of you >> guys get the TOMM (aussie engine mag) you have read the stories of >> some of >> his engine restorations. Very cluey with casting and machining. He >> has >> done some great work for me over the time. I mentioned Dave, Arnie >> and the >> Royster boys to him. He may have some questions on how to get some >> stuff >> brought home. If you are able to give him some humble advice that >> would be >> great. >> >> regards Russell >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Aug 16 10:22:31 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:22:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Larry, AFAIK, there is no official gathering at the Back Forty this year. I think folks are planning on some sort of Cajun feast at the showgrounds in the SEL area on Thursday night. See ya, Arnie On Tue, August 16, 2011 10:00 am, Larry Anger wrote: > Just wondering if there is a traditional gathering this year at the "Back > 40 Junction" on Thursday night during the Portland show? From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Aug 16 11:54:10 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:54:10 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110816205158.01f9a250@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 16/08/2011, you wrote: >Message: 15 >Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:30:55 -0400 >From: Steve Royster >Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show >To: The SEL email discussion list >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >I forgot, Which one of us is the good Royster?? Steve Sometimes it's you Steve - Sometimes it's Him !!! (Mostly it's you !!!) Keep well and enjoy the show Jerry From langer5 at xplornet.ca Tue Aug 16 12:07:58 2011 From: langer5 at xplornet.ca (Larry Anger) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:07:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> Thanks Arnie - We, (my wife, Roberto, & I) Plan on attending again this year and actually displaying a Czech engine in the SEL area. That is if the Royster lads make it with my engine!! Larry -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:23 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" Hi Larry, AFAIK, there is no official gathering at the Back Forty this year. I think folks are planning on some sort of Cajun feast at the showgrounds in the SEL area on Thursday night. See ya, Arnie On Tue, August 16, 2011 10:00 am, Larry Anger wrote: > Just wondering if there is a traditional gathering this year at the "Back > 40 Junction" on Thursday night during the Portland show? _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Aug 16 12:55:38 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:55:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" In-Reply-To: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> Message-ID: EXCELLENT!! I'm bringing my Lorenz this year as well. Now if we can just get Mike to bring ALL of his Lorenz & Benz engines... On Tue, August 16, 2011 3:07 pm, Larry Anger wrote: > Thanks Arnie - We, (my wife, Roberto, & I) Plan on attending again this > year > and actually displaying a Czech engine in the SEL area. That is if the > Royster lads make it with my engine!! From steve_royster at hotmail.com Tue Aug 16 13:02:27 2011 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 16:02:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20110816205158.01f9a250@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: Jerry, Thanks for settimg me straight, I needed to know how to act at Portland! Steve >> > > >I forgot, Which one of us is the good Royster?? Steve > > > Sometimes it's you Steve - Sometimes it's Him !!! (Mostly it's you !!!) > Keep well and enjoy the show > Jerry > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Tue Aug 16 13:35:01 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:35:01 -0500 Subject: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" In-Reply-To: References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDD60D5F3@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Arnie, Does that mean they'll be added to the Czech registry??? ;-) Sure wish it wasn't so far to Portland (the other one). About this time of year I miss not going there. At least I made it to Coolspring this year!!! George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:56 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" EXCELLENT!! I'm bringing my Lorenz this year as well. Now if we can just get Mike to bring ALL of his Lorenz & Benz engines... On Tue, August 16, 2011 3:07 pm, Larry Anger wrote: > Thanks Arnie - We, (my wife, Roberto, & I) Plan on attending again this > year > and actually displaying a Czech engine in the SEL area. That is if the > Royster lads make it with my engine!! _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From mr at carolina.rr.com Tue Aug 16 18:02:16 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:02:16 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20110816205158.01f9a250@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110816205158.01f9a250@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: <154D6FA3AEC943A3A3589EA365D8DA14@RoysterPC> OUCH! That hurts coming from you Jerry! According to the calendar I was supposed to be the good Royster at Portland, Steve was the good Royster at Coolspring! MR -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Evans Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:54 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10 At 06:00 PM 16/08/2011, you wrote: >Message: 15 >Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:30:55 -0400 >From: Steve Royster >Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show >To: The SEL email discussion list >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >I forgot, Which one of us is the good Royster?? Steve Sometimes it's you Steve - Sometimes it's Him !!! (Mostly it's you !!!) Keep well and enjoy the show Jerry _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Tue Aug 16 18:04:07 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:04:07 -0400 Subject: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" In-Reply-To: References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> Message-ID: I think the scale is tipping in Larry's favor as "keeper of the Lorenz". MR -----Original Message----- From: Arnie Fero Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:55 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" EXCELLENT!! I'm bringing my Lorenz this year as well. Now if we can just get Mike to bring ALL of his Lorenz & Benz engines... On Tue, August 16, 2011 3:07 pm, Larry Anger wrote: > Thanks Arnie - We, (my wife, Roberto, & I) Plan on attending again this > year > and actually displaying a Czech engine in the SEL area. That is if the > Royster lads make it with my engine!! _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From oldironnut at windstream.net Wed Aug 17 05:07:41 2011 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 08:07:41 -0400 Subject: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" In-Reply-To: References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> Message-ID: <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> On Aug 16, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Now if we can just get Mike to bring ALL of his Lorenz & Benz engines... So how high would the stack of folded tarps be if that happened? ______________________ Michael Tucker oldironnut at windstream.net Versailles, Kentucky, USA ______________________ From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Aug 17 07:57:56 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 10:57:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: <154D6FA3AEC943A3A3589EA365D8DA14@RoysterPC> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110816205158.01f9a250@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> <154D6FA3AEC943A3A3589EA365D8DA14@RoysterPC> Message-ID: <51557336d365d3669ccbf7c394c5c269.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Yeah, but... You weren't planning on being influenced by Dolly French (aka the SEL Flamemistress) at Portland. Y'all are doomed.... On Tue, August 16, 2011 9:02 pm, Mike Royster wrote: > OUCH! That hurts coming from you Jerry! According to the calendar I was > supposed to be the good Royster at Portland, Steve was the good Royster at > Coolspring! From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 17 09:40:49 2011 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (=?utf-8?B?c2x1Z2dvNTRAaG90bWFpbC5jb20=?=) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 10:40:49 -0600 Subject: [SEL] =?utf-8?q?Reg=27s_fly_shatter?= Message-ID: "And we should all remember the illegal fly swatter that Reg tried to ? smuggle into OZ as well! Dave" On reflection, that was possibly a case of mis-packaging. How about buying a badminton set, removing the rackets, replacing them with two of those heinous fly shatters, and shipping them to Reg that way? I'm pretty sure he doesn't really need them all that badly - now its a matter of proving it can be done. Bruce Younger There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter. E. Hemingway From rotigel at me.com Wed Aug 17 09:49:19 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 12:49:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: <51557336d365d3669ccbf7c394c5c269.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110816205158.01f9a250@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> <154D6FA3AEC943A3A3589EA365D8DA14@RoysterPC> <51557336d365d3669ccbf7c394c5c269.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: <0A44624A-3F9B-4522-B055-6EB52368D32B@me.com> My understanding is that Little Lisa plans to be at Portland as well. Remember what BOTH of them did to her last time she was at Portland! I just hope that they have matured a bit since that night! Dave On Aug 17, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Yeah, but... You weren't planning on being influenced by Dolly French > (aka the SEL Flamemistress) at Portland. Y'all are doomed.... > > On Tue, August 16, 2011 9:02 pm, Mike Royster wrote: >> OUCH! That hurts coming from you Jerry! According to the calendar >> I was >> supposed to be the good Royster at Portland, Steve was the good >> Royster at >> Coolspring! > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Wed Aug 17 09:53:27 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 12:53:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Reg's fly shatter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bruce, Are you aware of the time someone snailed 3 boxes of 12ga shotgun shells to a List member in OZ? Dave On Aug 17, 2011, at 12:40 PM, sluggo54 at hotmail.com wrote: > > "And we should all remember the illegal fly swatter that Reg tried to > smuggle into OZ as well! > Dave" > > On reflection, that was possibly a case of mis-packaging. How about > buying a badminton set, removing the rackets, replacing them with > two of those heinous fly shatters, and shipping them to Reg that > way? I'm pretty sure he doesn't really need them all that badly - > now its a matter of proving it can be done. > > Bruce Younger > > There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have > hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything > else thereafter. > E. Hemingway > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Aug 17 10:09:21 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Little Lisa and Jim & Dolly In-Reply-To: <0A44624A-3F9B-4522-B055-6EB52368D32B@me.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110816205158.01f9a250@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> <154D6FA3AEC943A3A3589EA365D8DA14@RoysterPC> <51557336d365d3669ccbf7c394c5c269.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> <0A44624A-3F9B-4522-B055-6EB52368D32B@me.com> Message-ID: Dave, I think we have a real opportunity here. Since Tom & Chris have gotten all grown up, poor Jim and Dolly must be experiencing "empty nest syndrome." And since it looks like grandchildren are still a ways off, they NEED to take Little Lisa home with them to England. heh-heh-heh (evil laugh) See ya, Arnie On Wed, August 17, 2011 12:49 pm, Dave Rotigel wrote: > My understanding is that Little Lisa plans to be at Portland as well. > Remember what BOTH of them did to her last time she was at Portland! I > just hope that they have matured a bit since that night! > Dave From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Aug 17 12:13:01 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 21:13:01 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Good or Bad Royster ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110817205711.00e082f8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 17/08/2011, you wrote: >Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:02:16 -0400 >From: "Mike Royster" >Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10 > >OUCH! That hurts coming from you Jerry! According to the calendar I was >supposed to be the good Royster at Portland, Steve was the good Royster at >Coolspring! >MR >-----Original Message----- >From: Jerry Evans >Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:54 PM >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10 > >At 06:00 PM 16/08/2011, you wrote: > >Message: 15 > >Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:30:55 -0400 > >From: Steve Royster > >Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show > >To: The SEL email discussion list > >Message-ID: > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > >I forgot, Which one of us is the good Royster?? Steve > > >Sometimes it's you Steve - Sometimes it's Him !!! (Mostly it's you !!!) >Keep well and enjoy the show >Jerry Hi Mike/Steve, Darn, now I'm also confused. Which one of you is the "Good Royster". I did not realise that you "took turns". I used to have a cat (or maybe it was my ex wife - I can't quite remember right now) whose mood changed with the phases of the moon - is that how you guys do things ?????? I seem to remember that my ex wife's mood changed once a month and not necessarily with the moon phases so it must have been the cat !! Jerry. P.S. You are both great guys - I love you both !! P.P.S. There !! Am I forgiven now??? From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Aug 17 15:51:38 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:51:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Good or Bad Royster ? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20110817205711.00e082f8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110817205711.00e082f8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: <26003B9C-8503-4876-8AEB-D2E279BAC855@ncable.com.au> > P.S. You are both great guys : well Jerry I would really think you best re-consider that. You can tell in their giggling that there is some real sinister guys hidden inside the great Southern exterior! Russ > > > Jerry. > P.S. You are both great guys - I love you both !! > P.P.S. There !! Am I forgiven now??? > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From steve_royster at hotmail.com Wed Aug 17 17:46:33 2011 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:46:33 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Good or Bad Royster ? In-Reply-To: <26003B9C-8503-4876-8AEB-D2E279BAC855@ncable.com.au> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110817205711.00e082f8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>, <26003B9C-8503-4876-8AEB-D2E279BAC855@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Look out Russell, you are from the DEEP SOUTH, No telling what's hiding under that real southern exterior of yours! Steve > From: russell at ncable.com.au > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:51:38 +1000 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Good or Bad Royster ? > > > P.S. You are both great guys : well Jerry I would really think you best re-consider that. You can tell in their giggling that there is some real sinister guys hidden inside the great Southern exterior! > Russ > > > > > > > > > Jerry. > > P.S. You are both great guys - I love you both !! > > P.P.S. There !! Am I forgiven now??? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Aug 17 19:10:40 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:10:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" In-Reply-To: <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> Message-ID: <6448E03531E04DAAB8900A0A4B936C78@RoysterPC> OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Michael Tucker Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:07 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" On Aug 16, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Now if we can just get Mike to bring ALL of his Lorenz & Benz engines... So how high would the stack of folded tarps be if that happened? ______________________ Michael Tucker oldironnut at windstream.net Versailles, Kentucky, USA ______________________ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Aug 17 19:24:01 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:24:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Good or Bad Royster ? In-Reply-To: <26003B9C-8503-4876-8AEB-D2E279BAC855@ncable.com.au> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110817205711.00e082f8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> <26003B9C-8503-4876-8AEB-D2E279BAC855@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <3D05BD303CEF4F8F8102032EBB5A9B11@RoysterPC> Why of course you are forgiven, it's easy to forgive when you are the good Royster!!!!! MR -----Original Message----- From: Russell Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 6:51 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Good or Bad Royster ? > P.S. You are both great guys : well Jerry I would really think you best > re-consider that. You can tell in their giggling that there is some real > sinister guys hidden inside the great Southern exterior! Russ > > > Jerry. > P.S. You are both great guys - I love you both !! > P.P.S. There !! Am I forgiven now??? > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Thu Aug 18 09:37:11 2011 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (=?utf-8?B?c2x1Z2dvNTRAaG90bWFpbC5jb20=?=) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:37:11 -0600 Subject: [SEL] =?utf-8?q?Reg=27s_fly_swatter/badminton_game?= Message-ID: "Bruce, Are you aware of the time someone snailed 3 boxes of 12ga ? shotgun shells to a List member in OZ? Dave" Nope. What was the fallout from that? Bruce Younger There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter. E. Hemingway From curt at rustyiron.com Thu Aug 18 11:38:39 2011 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 12:38:39 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Reg's fly swatter/badminton game In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The engine started! Those are SO kewl. Curt H > > "Bruce, Are you aware of the time someone snailed 3 boxes of 12ga ?? > shotgun shells to a List member in OZ? > Dave" > > Nope. What was the fallout from that? > > Bruce Younger > > There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted > armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else > thereafter. > E. Hemingway > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Aug 18 13:10:27 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 22:10:27 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Good or Bad Royster ?2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110818220913.02955e50@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 18/08/2011, you wrote: >Message: 9 >Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:24:01 -0400 >From: "Mike Royster" > >Why of course you are forgiven, it's easy to forgive when you are the good >Royster!!!!! > >MR Whew !!!! Jerry From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Aug 18 16:19:36 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:19:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] One Portland Super 8 Room Available Message-ID: <43254b6d6f5694c4cd4a03f3633e34b7.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Folks, We have one extra room reserved at the Portland Super 8. The reservation is for Monday night through Saturday night. The room has two queen size beds. If you want to take the room, let me know. See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero fero_ah at city-net.com From rdhaskell at juno.com Fri Aug 19 10:11:36 2011 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 10:11:36 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Blackstone question Message-ID: <20110819.101235.946.916643@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> Hi all. I am finally starting work on my 6 hp JSI engine. I will be making new studs and nuts, what are the threads? Some seem to be SAE, and some are not. Also how does the governor shaft come out of the housing? It has the spiral gear on one end and the flange that holds the weights on the other, and there is no obvious way to remove one. Thanks Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 3000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e4e998e459b7659dbst02vuc From steve_royster at hotmail.com Fri Aug 19 11:14:38 2011 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:14:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] One Portland Super 8 Room Available In-Reply-To: <43254b6d6f5694c4cd4a03f3633e34b7.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <43254b6d6f5694c4cd4a03f3633e34b7.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: Better save it for the Evil Royster and Little Lisa or maybe Nitro and Bambi! Steve > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:19:36 -0400 > From: fero_ah at city-net.com > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] One Portland Super 8 Room Available > > Folks, > > We have one extra room reserved at the Portland Super 8. > The reservation is for Monday night through Saturday night. > The room has two queen size beds. > > If you want to take the room, let me know. > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bigtime64 at hotmail.com Sat Aug 20 06:03:48 2011 From: bigtime64 at hotmail.com (Ed Herreid) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 13:03:48 +0000 Subject: [SEL] One Portland Super 8 Room Available In-Reply-To: <43254b6d6f5694c4cd4a03f3633e34b7.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <43254b6d6f5694c4cd4a03f3633e34b7.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: Arnie, Please contact me about the room. I sent info off list yesterday morning. Ed Herreid > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:19:36 -0400 > From: fero_ah at city-net.com > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] One Portland Super 8 Room Available > > Folks, > > We have one extra room reserved at the Portland Super 8. > The reservation is for Monday night through Saturday night. > The room has two queen size beds. > > If you want to take the room, let me know. > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Sat Aug 20 17:23:09 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 10:23:09 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Good or Bad Royster ? In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110817205711.00e082f8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>, <26003B9C-8503-4876-8AEB-D2E279BAC855@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: mmmm maybe you have a good point there On 18/08/2011, at 10:46 AM, Steve Royster wrote: > > Look out Russell, you are from the DEEP SOUTH, No telling what's hiding under that real southern exterior of yours! Steve > > >> From: russell at ncable.com.au >> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:51:38 +1000 >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Good or Bad Royster ? >> >>> P.S. You are both great guys : well Jerry I would really think you best re-consider that. You can tell in their giggling that there is some real sinister guys hidden inside the great Southern exterior! >> Russ >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> Jerry. >>> P.S. You are both great guys - I love you both !! >>> P.P.S. There !! Am I forgiven now??? >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Sat Aug 20 17:43:34 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 10:43:34 +1000 Subject: [SEL] European Dates Message-ID: Does anyone have the dates for the 2012 Nuenen and 1000 Engine Rallies? Thanks, Patrick Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From h.terpstra at wxs.nl Sat Aug 20 23:44:41 2011 From: h.terpstra at wxs.nl (Harry Terpstra) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 08:44:41 +0200 Subject: [SEL] European Dates References: Message-ID: <4719C5E865434152B09DACEFEC9EE849@packard971eb80> Patrick Nuenen 2012 is May 27-28 (Sunday-Monday) Actually the Saturday is a very good day to be there too. I'm not sure about the 1000 engine rally. Ar you planning to be there? Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Livingstone" To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine" Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:43 AM Subject: [SEL] European Dates > Does anyone have the dates for the 2012 Nuenen and 1000 Engine Rallies? > Thanks, > Patrick > > Patrick M Livingstone > 0418 692013 > Earlwood NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Sun Aug 21 00:53:05 2011 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 08:53:05 +0100 Subject: [SEL] European Dates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <780D0E4366354448A2EC4346E763131C@BTDAVEPC> Hi Patrick, The date for Nuenen is a bit early next year as Easter a bit Early. The date for Nuenen is Sun 27th & Mon 28th of May and the 1000 Engine is June the 23rd and 24th. Dave Croft http://oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv -------------------------------------------------- > Does anyone have the dates for the 2012 Nuenen and 1000 Engine Rallies? > Thanks, > Patrick > Patrick M Livingstone > 0418 692013 > Earlwood NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Sun Aug 21 02:32:03 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 19:32:03 +1000 Subject: [SEL] European Dates In-Reply-To: <4719C5E865434152B09DACEFEC9EE849@packard971eb80> Message-ID: Thanks for the dates. We are looking at possible side trips if we decide to take Samuel to see his grandparents next year. We also have to avoid the Olympics in London which will make the flights more expensive. Patrick On 21/8/11 4:44 PM, "Harry Terpstra" wrote: > Patrick Nuenen 2012 is May 27-28 (Sunday-Monday) Actually the Saturday is a > very good day to be there too. > I'm not sure about the 1000 engine rally. > Ar you planning to be there? > > Harry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick Livingstone" > To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine" > > Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:43 AM > Subject: [SEL] European Dates > > >> Does anyone have the dates for the 2012 Nuenen and 1000 Engine Rallies? >> Thanks, >> Patrick >> >> Patrick M Livingstone >> 0418 692013 >> Earlwood NSW >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Sun Aug 21 02:32:21 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 19:32:21 +1000 Subject: [SEL] European Dates In-Reply-To: <780D0E4366354448A2EC4346E763131C@BTDAVEPC> Message-ID: Thanks Dave. Patrick On 21/8/11 5:53 PM, "Dave Croft" wrote: > Hi Patrick, The date for Nuenen is a bit early next year as Easter a bit > Early. > The date for Nuenen is Sun 27th & Mon 28th of May and the 1000 Engine > is June the 23rd and 24th. > > Dave Croft > http://oldengine.org/members/croft/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > > > -------------------------------------------------- >> Does anyone have the dates for the 2012 Nuenen and 1000 Engine Rallies? >> Thanks, >> Patrick >> Patrick M Livingstone >> 0418 692013 >> Earlwood NSW >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Aug 21 18:59:30 2011 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 21:59:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland --- SOON In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <33CD4EDC726641BD87EAAA3C9A88C252@ckcsdb40cdd57a> Just curious, will most of the same gang be at Portland in a few days? The Hollands, Roysters, Arnie, Dave, Keith, etc.?? Me and Steve will be there on Wed. morning around 9:00 am. Hopefully we can park the trailer in the same location as prior years. See everyone soon!! Tommy Turner PS: Don't let the Royster Boys scout out all the deals in the sales area! From tchristoff at earthlink.net Sun Aug 21 19:22:44 2011 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 21:22:44 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [SEL] Portland --- SOON Message-ID: <31311437.1313979764997.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Any suggestions on how to do that Tommy? Tim Christoff -----Original Message----- >From: Judge Tommy Turner >Sent: Aug 21, 2011 8:59 PM >To: 'The SEL email discussion list' >Subject: [SEL] Portland --- SOON >Tommy Turner > >PS: Don't let the Royster Boys scout out all the deals in the sales area! > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Aug 21 19:37:40 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 22:37:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland --- SOON In-Reply-To: <33CD4EDC726641BD87EAAA3C9A88C252@ckcsdb40cdd57a> References: <33CD4EDC726641BD87EAAA3C9A88C252@ckcsdb40cdd57a> Message-ID: <71AAB038854E45C4B1D55A0EEFD27077@RoysterPC> Judge: Me, Steve and Miles will be rolling in on Wed about noon. Not to worry, we have pre=bought and will be picking up all the goodies at our leisure. Feel free to wander the sale area and see all those SOLD signs! MR -----Original Message----- From: Judge Tommy Turner Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:59 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] Portland --- SOON Just curious, will most of the same gang be at Portland in a few days? The Hollands, Roysters, Arnie, Dave, Keith, etc.?? Me and Steve will be there on Wed. morning around 9:00 am. Hopefully we can park the trailer in the same location as prior years. See everyone soon!! Tommy Turner PS: Don't let the Royster Boys scout out all the deals in the sales area! _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Aug 21 19:40:12 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 22:40:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland --- SOON In-Reply-To: <33CD4EDC726641BD87EAAA3C9A88C252@ckcsdb40cdd57a> References: <33CD4EDC726641BD87EAAA3C9A88C252@ckcsdb40cdd57a> Message-ID: <7830ca813f87f66da6bdfbdc23f3488a.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Yep, plus some surprises... On Sun, August 21, 2011 9:59 pm, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > > Just curious, will most of the same gang be at Portland in a few days? > The > Hollands, Roysters, Arnie, Dave, Keith, etc.?? Me and Steve will be there > on Wed. morning around 9:00 am. Hopefully we can park the trailer in the > same location as prior years. See everyone soon!! > > Tommy Turner > > PS: Don't let the Royster Boys scout out all the deals in the sales area! > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Aug 21 20:54:28 2011 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 23:54:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland --- SOON In-Reply-To: <71AAB038854E45C4B1D55A0EEFD27077@RoysterPC> References: <33CD4EDC726641BD87EAAA3C9A88C252@ckcsdb40cdd57a> <71AAB038854E45C4B1D55A0EEFD27077@RoysterPC> Message-ID: Darn, we'll all be sucking hind t-- again! TT Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2011, at 10:37 PM, "Mike Royster" wrote: > Judge: > > Me, Steve and Miles will be rolling in on Wed about noon. Not to worry, > we have pre=bought and will be picking up all the goodies at our leisure. > Feel free to wander the sale area and see all those SOLD signs! > > MR > > From cgandree at mchsi.com Mon Aug 22 05:26:07 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 07:26:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] Baraboo Show Message-ID: <1882757177.10971841314015967125.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Would like to thank all my American and International Friends for making the Baraboo Show top notch! Hopefully you all had as good a time as Becky and I did and looking forward to it again next year. Becky said it had been many years since she had a large group of friends sing happy birthday to her and that ment something very special to her. THANK YOU FOR MAKING HER DAY! Regretfully due to my work schedule can not attend Portland this year. Have a safe trip and good time. Best Regards. Curt & Becky From George_Best at adp.com Tue Aug 23 09:53:51 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:53:51 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - Custom headers leaking In-Reply-To: <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Since the list gets quiet during the Portland show I thought I'd post something for those stuck at home like myself;-) This isn't totally off topic as it does deal with an engine, but just a different type of engine than most of you deal with. My 64 Falcon has a custom set of Dawson Racing headers and I recently noticed some bad leaks at the slip joints for #3 and #4 cylinders on the passenger side. In the past I've had other vehicles with headers, but they were always one piece headers made at a header factory. This is the first time I've had something that was truly custom fabricated just for my car and engine combo. Also the first time I've had headers that needed slip joints to be installed. FYI.... These headers were already on the car when I bought it and unfortunately Tom Dawson died in 2009 so I believe Dawson Racing Headers died at the same time. After reading on the internet it seems that some people have good luck sealing the slip joints with high copper content RTV silicone. Which is what I'm planning on trying. First thing I discovered last night is I couldn't get a socket on any of the header flange bolts, and could only get a box end wrench on one of the bolts. Luckily and open end wrench was sufficient to undo the others although movement was very limited. I'll probably check a tool store and see if a thin-wall socket will work. Also considered modifying a box-end wrench by heating it up and bending it some, plus grinding off excess metal around the box-end. Maybe a modified wrench is what I need. I did get the #3 slip joint tube removed easy enough, but the #4 tube is still in place as I need to also remove the valve cover so the slip tube can slip up past the exhaust port. The cast valve covers are larger than most and the extra overhang is just enough to keep the #4 slip tube from sliding up far enough to separate from the rest of the header pipe. So.... have any of you experience with slip joint connections on header pipes? George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From George_Best at adp.com Tue Aug 23 10:17:18 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:17:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall sockets, I'm wondering about making my own. Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down on my lathe? Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From jdohagan at comcast.net Tue Aug 23 10:25:32 2011 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (James OHAGAN) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:25:32 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <000301cc61b9$b18d4010$14a7c030$@net> George, Call me. Jimmy -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:17 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall sockets, I'm wondering about making my own. Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down on my lathe? Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jdohagan at comcast.net Tue Aug 23 10:26:10 2011 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (James OHAGAN) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:26:10 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <000401cc61b9$c68e7290$53ab57b0$@net> Oops! 415 892 0236 -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:17 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall sockets, I'm wondering about making my own. Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down on my lathe? Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bigtime64 at hotmail.com Tue Aug 23 10:43:12 2011 From: bigtime64 at hotmail.com (Ed Herreid) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:43:12 +0000 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: , , <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205>, , <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: A cheap socket is going to be weak to start with. Thinning it will make it weaker. If it is a low enough torque you can get away with it. I have done it before but not on a lathe. A socket is going to be pretty hard tool steel. I have done it on a grinder. Put it on an extension and spin it against a grinder or better yet a sanding belt. Remove as little as possible and then polish it as good as you can by hand to reduce places for cracks to start. Go slow and dont overheat it. If it starts turning straw or blue color you have lost the heat treat and it will be weaker yet. If nothing else fits it is worth a shot. Ed Herreid Leaving for Portland later today > From: George_Best at adp.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:17:18 -0500 > Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket > > After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall sockets, I'm wondering about making my own. > > Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down on my lathe? > > Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Tue Aug 23 11:15:44 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:15:44 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: References: , , <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205>, , <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB57251@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Jimmy also recommended that using a grinder is a quick and simple way to make a thin wall socket. Also recommended using a higher quality socket. However, he had a better solution that eliminates the problem. Replace the bolts with socket head cap screws! George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Ed Herreid Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:43 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket A cheap socket is going to be weak to start with. Thinning it will make it weaker. If it is a low enough torque you can get away with it. I have done it before but not on a lathe. A socket is going to be pretty hard tool steel. I have done it on a grinder. Put it on an extension and spin it against a grinder or better yet a sanding belt. Remove as little as possible and then polish it as good as you can by hand to reduce places for cracks to start. Go slow and dont overheat it. If it starts turning straw or blue color you have lost the heat treat and it will be weaker yet. If nothing else fits it is worth a shot. Ed Herreid Leaving for Portland later today This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From swilliams268 at frontier.com Tue Aug 23 11:22:02 2011 From: swilliams268 at frontier.com (Steve W.) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:22:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <4E53EFCA.1070804@frontier.com> Best, George wrote: > After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall > sockets, I'm wondering about making my own. > > Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down > on my lathe? > > Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? > Both Snap-On and SK have thin wall sockets for headers. -- Steve W. From swilliams268 at frontier.com Tue Aug 23 11:21:04 2011 From: swilliams268 at frontier.com (Steve W.) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:21:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - Custom headers leaking In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <4E53EF90.6070801@frontier.com> Best, George wrote: > Since the list gets quiet during the Portland show I thought I'd post > something for those stuck at home like myself;-) > > This isn't totally off topic as it does deal with an engine, but just > a different type of engine than most of you deal with. > > My 64 Falcon has a custom set of Dawson Racing headers and I recently > noticed some bad leaks at the slip joints for #3 and #4 cylinders on > the passenger side. > > In the past I've had other vehicles with headers, but they were > always one piece headers made at a header factory. This is the first > time I've had something that was truly custom fabricated just for my > car and engine combo. Also the first time I've had headers that > needed slip joints to be installed. > > FYI.... These headers were already on the car when I bought it and > unfortunately Tom Dawson died in 2009 so I believe Dawson Racing > Headers died at the same time. > > After reading on the internet it seems that some people have good > luck sealing the slip joints with high copper content RTV silicone. > Which is what I'm planning on trying. > > First thing I discovered last night is I couldn't get a socket on any > of the header flange bolts, and could only get a box end wrench on > one of the bolts. Luckily and open end wrench was sufficient to undo > the others although movement was very limited. I'll probably check a > tool store and see if a thin-wall socket will work. Also considered > modifying a box-end wrench by heating it up and bending it some, plus > grinding off excess metal around the box-end. Maybe a modified > wrench is what I need. > > I did get the #3 slip joint tube removed easy enough, but the #4 tube > is still in place as I need to also remove the valve cover so the > slip tube can slip up past the exhaust port. The cast valve covers > are larger than most and the extra overhang is just enough to keep > the #4 slip tube from sliding up far enough to separate from the rest > of the header pipe. > > So.... have any of you experience with slip joint connections on > header pipes? > > George > The slip joint style can be a PIA. However I have used a couple items in the past to seal them. One being a high temp silicone like you are talking about. The other was a dedicated high silica exhaust pipe sealant. You can buy both at most auto parts places. As for the thin wall socket, S&K, and Snap-on both sell header sockets for this use OR you can get special header bolts that have a smaller head with an external torx or spline drive. Those allow you to tighten them down good and use a smaller socket. -- Steve W. From gop4evr at lsol.net Tue Aug 23 11:31:34 2011 From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:31:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: References: , , <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205>, , <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <4E3321BA-122D-4F2F-94CE-A8F9A2B5D106@lsol.net> A ceramic or CBN toolbit will make a nice cut in a lathe. We turn hardened steels regularly at work. As stated before, wall strength will suffer . . . . Nels On Aug 23, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Ed Herreid wrote: > >> From: George_Best at adp.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:17:18 -0500 >> Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket >> >> After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall sockets, I'm wondering about making my own. >> >> Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down on my lathe? >> >> Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? From bill at antique-engines.com Tue Aug 23 11:37:43 2011 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:37:43 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB57251@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: , , <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205>, , <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB57251@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <3f2a9539122246dbff7b9a268ceeb5a8.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> They make special header bolts with smaller 8 point heads than standard....the heads are also just a bit taller. They grip very well. Any other header issues - http://theamcforum.com/forum join and check out the engine sections. (it's a small forum I run) > Jimmy also recommended that using a grinder is a quick and simple way to > make a thin wall socket. > Also recommended using a higher quality socket. > > However, he had a better solution that eliminates the problem. > > Replace the bolts with socket head cap screws! > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Ed Herreid > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:43 AM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket > > > A cheap socket is going to be weak to start with. Thinning it will make > it weaker. If it is a low enough torque you can get away with it. > > I have done it before but not on a lathe. A socket is going to be pretty > hard tool steel. I have done it on a grinder. Put it on an extension and > spin it against a grinder or better yet a sanding belt. Remove as little > as possible and then polish it as good as you can by hand to reduce places > for cracks to start. Go slow and dont overheat it. If it starts turning > straw or blue color you have lost the heat treat and it will be weaker > yet. If nothing else fits it is worth a shot. > > Ed Herreid > Leaving for Portland later today > > > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments > from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rob at rustyiron.com Tue Aug 23 15:42:51 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 15:42:51 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <84B06553-8A91-4F50-9CF5-B06F073ED808@rustyiron.com> On Aug 23, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Best, George wrote: > After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall sockets, I'm wondering about making my own. > > Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down on my lathe? > > Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? Hi, George. You can machine sockets using a carbide tool and lots of cutting oil. Keep it cool. Rob From langer5 at xplornet.ca Tue Aug 23 19:04:52 2011 From: langer5 at xplornet.ca (langer5 xplornet.ca) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:04:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <84B06553-8A91-4F50-9CF5-B06F073ED808@rustyiron.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <84B06553-8A91-4F50-9CF5-B06F073ED808@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > On Aug 23, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Best, George wrote: > > > After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall sockets, > I'm wondering about making my own. > > > > Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down on my > lathe? > > > > Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? > > > Hi, George. > You can machine sockets using a carbide tool and lots of cutting oil. Keep > it cool. > > Rob > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > George - the best way to go is with socket head capscrews as previously mentioned or twelve point hex head capscrews which have a lot smaller head than 6 point capscrews. If the capscrews are 3/8" the socket for them in 12 point is 3/8 if memory serves me correctly. Use a good grade of socket. Larry. From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Aug 24 03:19:47 2011 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:19:47 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Rusty iron Rally Message-ID: <7C905BD8CE8F4ADB8AD8B8670A2DFA76@PeterPC> Who is going to the Rusty Iron Rally? Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Australia From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 24 06:07:53 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:07:53 +0100 Subject: [SEL] OT - Custom headers leaking In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: On 23 August 2011 17:53, Best, George wrote: > Since the list gets quiet during the Portland show I thought I'd post something for those stuck at home like myself;-) > > This isn't totally off topic as it does deal with an engine, but just a different type of engine than most of you deal with. > > My 64 Falcon has a custom set of Dawson Racing headers and I recently noticed some bad leaks at the slip joints for #3 and #4 cylinders on the passenger side. George: The big engines like Scania and Volvo use 'piston ring' type rings to seal the header joints. The in-line 6's and the V8's all use those joints to allow for expansion/contraction without stressing the face joints at the heads. The engines were/are pretty long and there was one centre piece and two outside pieces. Diameter was about 1.75" or so. As far as you own unit goes, these run pretty hot at full power, so I'd guess you need something that stays flexible at very high temperatures, I don't know if even silicon joiner paste will be that good. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Wed Aug 24 06:31:56 2011 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:31:56 +0800 Subject: [SEL] OT - Custom headers leaking In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205><12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <826843A76B37493382505D836B06A223@KerryPC> George you can buy a new one http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/Satellite?c=DFYPage&cid=1248884753507&pagename=FOA%2Fcontroller&site=FOA Kerry > Since the list gets quiet during the Portland show I thought I'd post > something for those stuck at home like myself;-) > > This isn't totally off topic as it does deal with an engine, but just a > different type of engine than most of you deal with. > > My 64 Falcon has a custom set of Dawson Racing headers and I recently > noticed some bad leaks at the slip joints for #3 and #4 cylinders on the > passenger side. > > In the past I've had other vehicles with headers, but they were always one > piece headers made at a header factory. This is the first time I've had > something that was truly custom fabricated just for my car and engine > combo. Also the first time I've had headers that needed slip joints to be > installed. > > FYI.... These headers were already on the car when I bought it and > unfortunately Tom Dawson died in 2009 so I believe Dawson Racing Headers > died at the same time. > > After reading on the internet it seems that some people have good luck > sealing the slip joints with high copper content RTV silicone. Which is > what I'm planning on trying. > > First thing I discovered last night is I couldn't get a socket on any of > the header flange bolts, and could only get a box end wrench on one of the > bolts. Luckily and open end wrench was sufficient to undo the others > although movement was very limited. I'll probably check a tool store and > see if a thin-wall socket will work. Also considered modifying a box-end > wrench by heating it up and bending it some, plus grinding off excess > metal around the box-end. Maybe a modified wrench is what I need. > > I did get the #3 slip joint tube removed easy enough, but the #4 tube is > still in place as I need to also remove the valve cover so the slip tube > can slip up past the exhaust port. The cast valve covers are larger than > most and the extra overhang is just enough to keep the #4 slip tube from > sliding up far enough to separate from the rest of the header pipe. > > So.... have any of you experience with slip joint connections on header > pipes? > > George From jlb94 at juno.com Wed Aug 24 07:31:32 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:31:32 GMT Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket Message-ID: <20110824.103132.13704.1@webmail57.vgs.untd.com> Hi George, I don't have a lathe but I've ground them down with a 4?" grinder before. Keep it cool !!! Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Keep Pennsylvania Beautiful - (_0_) Ban large pumpkin colored "buckle-up" signs. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "langer5 xplornet.ca" To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:04:52 -0400 On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > On Aug 23, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Best, George wrote: > > > After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall sockets, > I'm wondering about making my own. > > > > Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down on my > lathe? > > > > Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? > > > Hi, George. > You can machine sockets using a carbide tool and lots of cutting oil. Keep > it cool. > > Rob > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > George - the best way to go is with socket head capscrews as previously mentioned or twelve point hex head capscrews which have a lot smaller head than 6 point capscrews. If the capscrews are 3/8" the socket for them in 12 point is 3/8 if memory serves me correctly. Use a good grade of socket. Larry. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 From George_Best at adp.com Wed Aug 24 07:34:53 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:34:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <84B06553-8A91-4F50-9CF5-B06F073ED808@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDC295DB@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Decided to give up on the thin wall socket, unless I need to remove other header bolts in the future. Will replace the bolts I took out with socket head ones. George Ps. Suppose if I replace some with socket head, I should go ahead and replace all of them. Keeps it looking nicer plus in the future I'd curse the idiot that used different types of fasteners. ;-) -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of langer5 xplornet.ca Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:05 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > On Aug 23, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Best, George wrote: > > > After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall sockets, > I'm wondering about making my own. > > > > Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down on my > lathe? > > > > Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? > > > Hi, George. > You can machine sockets using a carbide tool and lots of cutting oil. Keep > it cool. > > Rob > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > George - the best way to go is with socket head capscrews as previously mentioned or twelve point hex head capscrews which have a lot smaller head than 6 point capscrews. If the capscrews are 3/8" the socket for them in 12 point is 3/8 if memory serves me correctly. Use a good grade of socket. Larry. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. 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From George_Best at adp.com Wed Aug 24 07:49:06 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:49:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - Custom headers leaking In-Reply-To: <826843A76B37493382505D836B06A223@KerryPC> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205><12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <826843A76B37493382505D836B06A223@KerryPC> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDC296C8@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Kerry, I always thought that Australia has some pretty nice vehicles, not shared with the rest of the world. The new Falcon looks pretty nice although my old 64 is probably more fun ;-) George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:32 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - Custom headers leaking George you can buy a new one http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/Satellite?c=DFYPage&cid=1248884753507&pagename=FOA%2Fcontroller&site=FOA Kerry > Since the list gets quiet during the Portland show I thought I'd post > something for those stuck at home like myself;-) > > This isn't totally off topic as it does deal with an engine, but just a > different type of engine than most of you deal with. > > My 64 Falcon has a custom set of Dawson Racing headers and I recently > noticed some bad leaks at the slip joints for #3 and #4 cylinders on the > passenger side. > > In the past I've had other vehicles with headers, but they were always one > piece headers made at a header factory. This is the first time I've had > something that was truly custom fabricated just for my car and engine > combo. Also the first time I've had headers that needed slip joints to be > installed. > > FYI.... These headers were already on the car when I bought it and > unfortunately Tom Dawson died in 2009 so I believe Dawson Racing Headers > died at the same time. > > After reading on the internet it seems that some people have good luck > sealing the slip joints with high copper content RTV silicone. Which is > what I'm planning on trying. > > First thing I discovered last night is I couldn't get a socket on any of > the header flange bolts, and could only get a box end wrench on one of the > bolts. Luckily and open end wrench was sufficient to undo the others > although movement was very limited. I'll probably check a tool store and > see if a thin-wall socket will work. Also considered modifying a box-end > wrench by heating it up and bending it some, plus grinding off excess > metal around the box-end. Maybe a modified wrench is what I need. > > I did get the #3 slip joint tube removed easy enough, but the #4 tube is > still in place as I need to also remove the valve cover so the slip tube > can slip up past the exhaust port. The cast valve covers are larger than > most and the extra overhang is just enough to keep the #4 slip tube from > sliding up far enough to separate from the rest of the header pipe. > > So.... have any of you experience with slip joint connections on header > pipes? > > George _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From kosh at ncweb.com Wed Aug 24 14:38:28 2011 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:38:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Saturday + Sunday Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20110824173627.0ca83ac0@ncweb.com> We are thinking about heading to Portland for the weekend. The question is, will there still be anyone / anything there Sat + Sun? Dave Merchant kosh at ncweb.com kosh at nesys.com dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Aug 24 19:51:18 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Saturday + Sunday In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20110824173627.0ca83ac0@ncweb.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20110824173627.0ca83ac0@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <6a3b76b8655875833325416a490167da.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Dave, Things are going full bore now. By Saturday a lot of folks have loaded up and left. We load up Sunday morning and it's pretty open then. See ya, Arnie On Wed, August 24, 2011 5:38 pm, Dave Merchant wrote: > We are thinking about heading to Portland for the weekend. > > The question is, will there still be anyone / anything there Sat + Sun? > > > Dave Merchant > kosh at ncweb.com > kosh at nesys.com > dmerchant at layerzero.com > > http://www.nesys.com > http://www.nesys.org > YouTube: SteamCrane > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bakermonitor1932 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 24 20:30:49 2011 From: bakermonitor1932 at hotmail.com (Devin Holland) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 23:30:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Custom headers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would suggest going by harbor freight and getting a impact socket (thicker and its a 6point so its stronger) and useing a lathe on a slow speed with a grinder so that u can get a nice even grind. Devin Holland Wish i was a in Portland but sadly im in my dorm is their a collector on here near uah? > First thing I discovered last night is I couldn't get a socket on any of the header flange bolts, and could only get a box end wrench on one of the bolts. Luckily and open end wrench was sufficient to undo the others although movement was very limited. I'll probably check a tool store and see if a thin-wall socket will work. Also considered modifying a box-end wrench by heating it up and bending it some, plus grinding off excess metal around the box-end. Maybe a modified wrench is what I need. From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Aug 25 00:58:47 2011 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:58:47 +1000 Subject: [SEL] OT - Custom headers leaking In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDC296C8@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205><12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><826843A76B37493382505D836B06A223@KerryPC> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDC296C8@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: George Forget about the ugly blue oval This is the make you want, GM http://www.holden.com.au/latestoffers/commodore-offers/bonus-sunroof-on-ss,-ssv,-calais-andcalaisv-sedans?region=National Peter Kerry, I always thought that Australia has some pretty nice vehicles, not shared with the rest of the world. The new Falcon looks pretty nice although my old 64 is probably more fun ;-) George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:32 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - Custom headers leaking George you can buy a new one http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/Satellite?c=DFYPage&cid=1248884753507&pagename=FOA%2Fcontroller&site=FOA Kerry > Since the list gets quiet during the Portland show I thought I'd post > something for those stuck at home like myself;-) > > This isn't totally off topic as it does deal with an engine, but just a > different type of engine than most of you deal with. > > My 64 Falcon has a custom set of Dawson Racing headers and I recently > noticed some bad leaks at the slip joints for #3 and #4 cylinders on the > passenger side. > > In the past I've had other vehicles with headers, but they were always one > piece headers made at a header factory. This is the first time I've had > something that was truly custom fabricated just for my car and engine > combo. Also the first time I've had headers that needed slip joints to be > installed. > > FYI.... These headers were already on the car when I bought it and > unfortunately Tom Dawson died in 2009 so I believe Dawson Racing Headers > died at the same time. > > After reading on the internet it seems that some people have good luck > sealing the slip joints with high copper content RTV silicone. Which is > what I'm planning on trying. > > First thing I discovered last night is I couldn't get a socket on any of > the header flange bolts, and could only get a box end wrench on one of the > bolts. Luckily and open end wrench was sufficient to undo the others > although movement was very limited. I'll probably check a tool store and > see if a thin-wall socket will work. Also considered modifying a box-end > wrench by heating it up and bending it some, plus grinding off excess > metal around the box-end. Maybe a modified wrench is what I need. > > I did get the #3 slip joint tube removed easy enough, but the #4 tube is > still in place as I need to also remove the valve cover so the slip tube > can slip up past the exhaust port. The cast valve covers are larger than > most and the extra overhang is just enough to keep the #4 slip tube from > sliding up far enough to separate from the rest of the header pipe. > > So.... have any of you experience with slip joint connections on header > pipes? > > George _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. 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Yes, going from the correct email :-) Was just trying to post an update on the Hall 5 for those who had supported the venture:- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "A number of people on the lists have supported this project over the last couple of years. Has taken some time but the building is now weatherproof and we have finally taken the sheets off the engines. There is a news item on the museum website at http://www.internalfire.com/news.php?ssid=1464 All the large engines have now run although the Ruston 6VE and Allen S47 have plenty of pipework left to do. Everything should be complete by the End of Season Crankup in October. Thanks again to everybody who has supported the build, just over ?28k was raised! 100% donations. Paul, Hazel and the Trustees -- Internal Fire Museum of Power Castell Pridd, Tanygroes, Ceredigion, Wales, UK SA43 2JS http://www.internalfire.com Tel: 01239 811212 MLA Accredited Museum Registered Charity number 1134971 A member of the Association of Independent Museums." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you it worth posting on ATIS as well then it would be appreciated. Have not posted about progress much due to flack from Wieser etc, got enough to deal with! Cheers Paul -- Internal Fire Museum of Power Castell Pridd, Tanygroes, Ceredigion, Wales, UK SA43 2JS http://www.internalfire.com Tel: 01239 811212 MLA Accredited Museum Registered Charity number 1134971 A member of the Association of Independent Museums. From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Aug 25 06:35:18 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 06:35:18 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDC295DB@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <84B06553-8A91-4F50-9CF5-B06F073ED808@rustyiron.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDC295DB@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <0D76D3D1-5F3A-4701-AF0D-AA1B51F9EA3B@rustyiron.com> On Aug 24, 2011, at 7:34 AM, Best, George wrote: > > Ps. Suppose if I replace some with socket head, I should go ahead and replace all of them. > Keeps it looking nicer plus in the future I'd curse the idiot that used different types of fasteners. ;-) If you're going through all the trouble of replacing them, George, it might be a good idea to consider stainless with a Torx head. Rob From George_Best at adp.com Thu Aug 25 07:35:45 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:35:45 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - Custom headers leaking In-Reply-To: References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205><12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><826843A76B37493382505D836B06A223@KerryPC> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDC296C8@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDCDFAE4@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Sorry, but for fun or racing I'm 100% FORD! However, I do support all three of the Detroit companies. I've got a Dodge Ram pickup, Chevy HHR for a commuter, Mercury Montego, and of course the Falcon for fun ;-) I think the Australian Fords look a lot better than the Holdens. The older Holdens are butt ugly, but must admit the newer ones look better. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:59 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] OT - Custom headers leaking George Forget about the ugly blue oval This is the make you want, GM http://www.holden.com.au/latestoffers/commodore-offers/bonus-sunroof-on-ss,-ssv,-calais-andcalaisv-sedans?region=National Peter Kerry, I always thought that Australia has some pretty nice vehicles, not shared with the rest of the world. The new Falcon looks pretty nice although my old 64 is probably more fun ;-) George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Aug 25 07:35:03 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:35:03 +0100 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <3f2a9539122246dbff7b9a268ceeb5a8.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB57251@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <3f2a9539122246dbff7b9a268ceeb5a8.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: On 23 August 2011 19:37, wrote: > They make special header bolts with smaller 8 point heads than > standard....the heads are also just a bit taller. > They grip very well. > Land Rover use these on the exhaust headers for the V8 engine, being ex-Buick, the threads should still be NC. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Thu Aug 25 09:45:02 2011 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (=?utf-8?B?c2x1Z2dvNTRAaG90bWFpbC5jb20=?=) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 10:45:02 -0600 Subject: [SEL] =?utf-8?q?OT_-_Thin_Wall_Socket?= Message-ID: "If you're going through all the trouble of replacing them, George, it might be a good idea to consider stainless with a Torx head. Rob" I second the motion, and suggest adding a large dollop of a good anti-seize. Bruce Younger A serious writer is not to be confounded with a solemn writer. A serious writer may be a hawk or a buzzard or even a popinjay, but a solemn writer is always a bloody owl. E. Hemingway From George_Best at adp.com Thu Aug 25 09:55:43 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 11:55:43 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin Wall Socket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDD5D4EB@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Since the engine has aluminum heads I was planning on using some anti-seize. I was glad the old bolts came out as easy as they did. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of sluggo54 at hotmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 9:45 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin Wall Socket "If you're going through all the trouble of replacing them, George, it might be a good idea to consider stainless with a Torx head. Rob" I second the motion, and suggest adding a large dollop of a good anti-seize. Bruce Younger A serious writer is not to be confounded with a solemn writer. A serious writer may be a hawk or a buzzard or even a popinjay, but a solemn writer is always a bloody owl. E. Hemingway _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Aug 25 12:39:31 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 21:39:31 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Internal Fire Hall 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110825203206.00da55d8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 25/08/2011, you wrote: Message: 5 Subject: Internal Fire Hall 5 From: "Paul Evans" Hi Arnie, Getting emails from Oldengine but it will not allow me to post. Yes, going from the correct email :-) Was just trying to post an update on the Hall 5 for those who had supported the venture:- "A number of people on the lists have supported this project over the last couple of years. Has taken some time but the building is now weatherproof and we have finally taken the sheets off the engines. There is a news item on the museum website at [1]http://www.internalfire.com/news.php?ssid=1464 All the large engines have now run although the Ruston 6VE and Allen S47 have plenty of pipework left to do. Everything should be complete by the End of Season Crankup in October. Thanks again to everybody who has supported the build, just over ?28k was raised! 100% donations. If you (think) it worth posting on ATIS as well then it would be appreciated. Have not posted about progress much due to flack from Wieser etc, got enough to deal with! Cheers Paul Hi Paul, I looked at the website and Hall 5 is looking good. That first startup of the Allen was awesome -(We've never met so I need to ask - was that you on the ladder ??). I feel privileged and honoured that, in a very small way, I was able to add to those donations. When I auctioned those few plates almost everyone mentioned that they had already donated but "went for it again - anyway". Don't we have fantastic people in this hobby ?? Don't be concerned with the odd person who for some reason is not happy about you and what you do - "**it" happens in whatever "walk of life" you are in irrespective of the fact that your intentions are completely honourable. The other 99.99% of collectors make up for that odd one. In my little "engine plates" business I've been very lucky to have mostly "happy customers" but there have been 3 exceptions ! The one was an English collector who wanted a special plate for a Stuart pump (US$ 20,00's worth) but expected me to answer almost daily e-mails from him (immediately) about the EXACT price it was going to cost in spite of the fact that I pointed him to my webpage which has the prices published as well as a link to a currency converter to get to GBP - on the page I also mention that currencies fluctuate daily and I invoice according to the going rate on the day that I post the plates. He said that the "currency converter did not work for him" (?????). Eventually I wrote back to him that I did not have the time to answer his daily e-mails for a paltry US$ 20.00. His reply was that my attitude stank and that I should cancel his order and he would get the plate made by someone else who did not have "my bad attitude". I replied that it would be a pleasure and that I'd work on correcting "my attitude" :-) The other 2 were motor car collectors - I do not think that I want to do any more work for car collectors !! In the last 6 or 7 years that I have been making these plates (as a hobby - not a business ) I have met many really good people and their patience has been fantastic (I DO NOT offer quick service). SO, do not be intimidated by the odd person who is hard to please. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: <[2]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> References 1. http://www.internalfire.com/news.php?ssid=1464 2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From jneth3 at mac.com Thu Aug 25 12:51:37 2011 From: jneth3 at mac.com (John Neth) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:51:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Message-ID: My wife and I just entered Berne. Anything going on this afternoon or this evening with the SEL group? Sent from my iPhone From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Aug 25 19:03:19 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 22:03:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9c7d8b7a0a03811aa459b38b2bc6d0d4.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Yep, we had a Cajun pastalaya and engine made ice cream. BURP... On Thu, August 25, 2011 3:51 pm, John Neth wrote: > My wife and I just entered Berne. Anything going on this afternoon or > this evening with the SEL group? From rotigel at me.com Mon Aug 29 13:26:11 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:26:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <5F8BAE09-B0F6-4A9B-B433-CEE0197EEAC1@me.com> I picked up a very nice set of thin wall sockets at Portland this past week. The 1" is missing from the set , but it goes from 3" down to 7/8" Dave On Aug 23, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Best, George wrote: > After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall > sockets, I'm wondering about making my own. > > Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down > on my lathe? > > Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? From George_Best at adp.com Mon Aug 29 14:35:03 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:35:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <5F8BAE09-B0F6-4A9B-B433-CEE0197EEAC1@me.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <5F8BAE09-B0F6-4A9B-B433-CEE0197EEAC1@me.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDE01B152@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Dave, Glad you were able to find thin wall sockets for your 1" drive set. :-) Although at your age, you should probably be sticking to projects that you can use your 1/4" or 3/8" drive. Of course if you replace all your sockets with lighter thin wall versions, you may extend the time you'll be able to get your nuts off. ;-) George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave Rotigel Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 1:26 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket I picked up a very nice set of thin wall sockets at Portland this past week. The 1" is missing from the set , but it goes from 3" down to 7/8" Dave This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From rotigel at me.com Mon Aug 29 18:41:43 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:41:43 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Custom headers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: DEVIN, CALL YOUR MOTHER!!!!!!!!!! Dave On Aug 24, 2011, at 11:30 PM, Devin Holland wrote: > > I would suggest going by harbor freight and getting a impact socket > (thicker and its a 6point so its stronger) and useing a lathe on a > slow speed with a grinder so that u can get a nice even grind. > > > Devin Holland > Wish i was a in Portland but sadly im in my dorm is their a > collector on here near uah? > > > > > >> First thing I discovered last night is I couldn't get a socket on >> any of the header flange bolts, and could only get a box end wrench >> on one of the bolts. Luckily and open end wrench was sufficient to >> undo the others although movement was very limited. I'll probably >> check a tool store and see if a thin-wall socket will work. Also >> considered modifying a box-end wrench by heating it up and bending >> it some, plus grinding off excess metal around the box-end. Maybe >> a modified wrench is what I need. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Aug 30 09:01:39 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:01:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Cheap Shipping to Hungary? Message-ID: <2a5f19a1c06bdb40dda8e555b125ffb1.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Hi Folks, Does anyone have any suggestions regarding cheap shipping sources for some packages of old engine parts going to Hungary? I need to ship some Bessemer parts (intake valve assembly, governor, hot tube chimney, etc.) to a friend there. So the packages won't be large or heavy. Not like shipping an engine anyway. Thanks. See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com From kosh at ncweb.com Tue Aug 30 11:15:05 2011 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:15:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Cheap Shipping to Hungary? In-Reply-To: <2a5f19a1c06bdb40dda8e555b125ffb1.squirrel@webmail.realprod ata.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20110830141432.035c4140@ncweb.com> Is that in Lagos, Nigeria-Hungary? Dave Merchant At 12:01 PM 8/30/2011, you wrote: >Hi Folks, > >Does anyone have any suggestions regarding cheap shipping sources for some >packages of old engine parts going to Hungary? > >I need to ship some Bessemer parts (intake valve assembly, governor, hot >tube chimney, etc.) to a friend there. So the packages won't be large or >heavy. Not like shipping an engine anyway. > >Thanks. > >See ya, Arnie > >Arnie Fero >Pittsburgh, PA >fero_ah at city-net.com > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at ncweb.com kosh at nesys.com dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Aug 30 13:23:06 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:23:06 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Cheap Shipping to Hungary? In-Reply-To: <2a5f19a1c06bdb40dda8e555b125ffb1.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <2a5f19a1c06bdb40dda8e555b125ffb1.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: On 30 August 2011 17:01, Arnie Fero wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Does anyone have any suggestions regarding cheap shipping sources for some > packages of old engine parts going to Hungary? > > I need to ship some Bessemer parts (intake valve assembly, governor, hot > tube chimney, etc.) to a friend there. ?So the packages won't be large or > heavy. ?Not like shipping an engine anyway. > > Thanks. > > See ya, ?Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA > fero_ah at city-net.com I think USPS has discontinued surface shipping now? One of the specialist carriers might be worth a try, Fedex and UPS would be horribly expensive, but we have a couple of parcel carriers here that offer better rates, so you must have them over there also. We just took a load of Crossley J type gas engine castings over to Holland, they came from Australia to the UK and we picked them up and took them over to the Juffer Family open day last weekend. Or, ship them to us or Dolly & Jim and we can maybe get them on a returning truck, Hungary ships a lot of stuff to the UK by road, so we could probably find a place back out there. Bert Juffer's young lady may also be worth contacting through Bert, she is Hungarian and would be aware of such things. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jbcast at charter.net Tue Aug 30 19:42:35 2011 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Cheap Shipping to Hungary? Message-ID: <6f60f283.15534e.1321db77894.Webtop.49@charter.net> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Listerdiesel wrote: > On 30 August 2011 17:01, Arnie Fero wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> >> Does anyone have any suggestions regarding cheap shipping sources for >> some >> packages of old engine parts going to Hungary? >> >> I need to ship some Bessemer parts (intake valve assembly, governor, >> hot >> tube chimney, etc.) to a friend there. ?So the packages won't be >> large or >> heavy. ?Not like shipping an engine anyway. >> >> Thanks. >> >> See ya, ?Arnie >> >> Arnie Fero Has the engine left for the U.K. yet? Could you include them with the engine and have them shipped from over there? J.B. Castagnos From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 31 09:35:31 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:35:31 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Juffer Family Open Day Message-ID: We travelled over to Holland last Friday to be at the Juffer Family home for their open day. Lots of nice machinery, only one heavy shower and the hospitality was excellent. A video of some of the engines is on YouTube, it is about 18 minutes long. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tafJSIjLcaI Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Aug 31 10:51:20 2011 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 10:51:20 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Juffer Family Open Day Message-ID: <20110831.105209.989.1642610@mailpop09.vgs.untd.com> Great video Peter, thanks. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ 57-Year-Old Mom Looks 25 Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e5e74fe5aa616bd9est02vuc From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Aug 31 13:32:37 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:32:37 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Brass plates, Springtime 'n stuff Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110831223210.029e2720@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi Everybody, I did it, I survived the worst winter we have had in many years ! In less than 2 hours time Spring officially starts here - You Northerners can have your winter back (and preferably keep it there forever )!!! :-) Now to brass plates. I've just spent the last 2 days applying etch masks to all my outstanding orders and will start etching tomorrow. That means that approximately 50 old engines worldwide will soon be sporting a brand new replica brass spec. plate made by "yours truly" :-) Thank you all for your support over the last few years - I derive a lot of pleasure from knowing that my plates adorn engines on most continents - (I'm not too sure if we have any members in Antarctica but it would be nice to make a plate for there !!). (Did you know that a little grey Ferguson made it to the South Pole many years ago ?) See: <[1]http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/media/photo/dash-pole-tractors> and <[2]http://www.flickr.com/photos/electropod/2909945767/> and <[3]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson_TE20> The etching goes quite fast - it's the preparation and artwork that take the time. These days I take months to do all the artwork and only etch a batch of plates when I have enough to make it worthwhile to set up the whole caboodle. It seems that I only etch about every 4 or 5 months (I've never offered "lightning fast service"). Thanks again to all you guys (my customers) for being so patient. O.K. enough rambling - happy "Spring Day" to all the Southern Hemisphere members. Keep well, Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: <[4]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> References 1. http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/media/photo/dash-pole-tractors 2. http://www.flickr.com/photos/electropod/2909945767/ 3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson_TE20 4. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Aug 31 14:11:40 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:11:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Brass plates, Springtime 'n stuff Message-ID: So Jerry, We all know that when the various solstices and equinoxes (that mark the seasons) occur in England, that our Flame Mistress, Dolly, dons her black leather and frolics in the moonlight. May we assume that the same practices are used in SA to herald the Spring? If so, please forward the pics of Jacqui frolicking in the moonlight in her black leather. 8->> See ya, Arnie PS - Happy Spring Day! On Wed, August 31, 2011 4:32 pm, Jerry Evans wrote: > In less than 2 hours time Spring officially starts here > > O.K. enough rambling - happy Spring Day to all the > Southern Hemisphere members. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 31 21:05:22 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 05:05:22 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Juffer Family Open Day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 31 August 2011 17:35, Listerdiesel wrote: > We travelled over to Holland last Friday to be at the Juffer Family > home for their open day. The original appears to have a duplicated index, so we have re-processed the file to give a new, smaller item: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PZHyEhB-Xk The old one will remain for a few days then we will delete it. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Aug 5 04:51:54 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 21:51:54 +1000 Subject: [SEL] portable hornsby In-Reply-To: <45250cdc86ef12631cc58bc7aad7cec4.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <002101cc228e$abd0f3c0$0201010a@x6d7p7>, <18A2E33CFEE1418AAAB3B274660D9D24@morpheus>, <002f01cc22ff$edb3f320$0201010a@x6d7p7>, <4DEAAD10.1080208@internalfire.com>, , <20110728140321.6325897D1@smtp.wcoil.com> <45250cdc86ef12631cc58bc7aad7cec4.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: <8D2B935E-6755-48EA-A5F9-D4D0BB3DCFFE@ncable.com.au> G'day all, I posted some pic's of my 3.5hp portable Hornsby a little while back, well I have the hubs for the wheel fitted, cooling tower shower cast and fitted, fuel system all done, adjustments to the sprayer, oiler wicks in the oil wells, ...... so the plan is to try and start it on Sunday! Well my good friend Greg and I just could not help ourselves. Hat to put some heat onto it today between work shifts. Let me just say she is a bloody ripper. Started real easy. Made a slight adjustment to the exhaust timing and away it went real nice. YeeeeHAAArrrrr ! We only had a short time to play. Looking forward to Sunday afternoon, will fill the water tank and give it a real good run. I will try my hand at vidoeing it and putting it on you tube? Russell From obise at moscow.com Sat Aug 6 22:12:03 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 22:12:03 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video Message-ID: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator would walk past. Ring a bell? I've found several similar videos on YouTube; but, not this particular one; I'm guessing it must reside on some other host site. Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start Field Marshal tractor) Every little bit of help is welcome. Best regards, Orrin In the unlikely case someone has not seen such a performance, here's a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbN-jO11vKg&feature=related -- Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com Sat Aug 6 23:32:24 2011 From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 06:32:24 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> Message-ID: Bottleneck John ? > Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 22:12:03 -0700 > From: obise at moscow.com > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video > > I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. > I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. > > This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the > melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were > standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator > would walk past. Ring a bell? > > I've found several similar videos on YouTube; but, not this particular > one; I'm guessing it must reside on some other host site. > > Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty > such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine > doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. > (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start > Field Marshal tractor) > > Every little bit of help is welcome. > > Best regards, > > Orrin > In the unlikely case someone has not seen such a performance, here's a link: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbN-jO11vKg&feature=related > > -- > Orrin Iseminger > Colton, Washington, USA > http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm > So many projects. So little time. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From obise at moscow.com Sun Aug 7 06:44:58 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 06:44:58 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> Message-ID: <4E3E96DA.8040701@moscow.com> Thank you for the suggestion, John. I followed up on it, but didn't find what I'm looking for. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 8/6/2011 11:32 PM, john palmer wrote: > Bottleneck John From jerrye at databak.co.za Sun Aug 7 10:00:46 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 19:00:46 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 89, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110807185558.01fd20b0@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 07/08/2011, you wrote: >Message: 1 >Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 22:12:03 -0700 >From: Orrin Iseminger >Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video > >I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. >I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. > >This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the >melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were >standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator >would walk past. Ring a bell? > >I've found several similar videos on YouTube; but, not this particular >one; I'm guessing it must reside on some other host site. > >Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty >such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine >doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. >(besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start >Field Marshal tractor) > >Every little bit of help is welcome. > >Best regards, > >Orrin >In the unlikely case someone has not seen such a performance, here's a link: >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbN-jO11vKg&feature=related Hi Orrin, My immediate thought was to the one you supplied a link to. I have that saved. I cannot help with your request but would also suggest that you search for : Eaglesmith - Small Motors" a really great song which we could all identify with. I hope that they play it at my funeral one day (hopefully not too soon) :-) Keep well friend, Jerry From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Aug 7 14:42:11 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 17:42:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> Message-ID: Hi Orrin, I know exactly the piece you're referring to. The engine was a heavy-thumping semi-diesel, and one of the musicians was playing a squeezebox. It was a GREAT video; unfortunately I don't appear to have it bookmarked either. If you do recover the link, please post it. See ya, Arnie On Sun, August 7, 2011 1:12 am, Orrin Iseminger wrote: > I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. > I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. > > This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the > melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were > standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator > would walk past. Ring a bell? From fbi at insulate.co.uk Sun Aug 7 14:51:26 2011 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 22:51:26 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> Message-ID: <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> Not this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 Dolly > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel- > bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Orrin Iseminger > > I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. > I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. > > This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the > melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were > standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator > would walk past. Ring a bell? > > I've found several similar videos on YouTube; but, not this particular > one; I'm guessing it must reside on some other host site. > > Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty > such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine > doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. > (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start > Field Marshal tractor) > > Every little bit of help is welcome. > > Best regards, > > Orrin > In the unlikely case someone has not seen such a performance, here's a link: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbN-jO11vKg&feature=related From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 7 15:21:12 2011 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 15:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> Message-ID: <1312755672.5093.YahooMailClassic@web111723.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> On that one I just wish they had shut up for a bit so we could hear the engine better. ? Alan in Michigan --- On Sun, 8/7/11, Jim French wrote: From: Jim French Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Date: Sunday, August 7, 2011, 5:51 PM Not this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 Dolly > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel- > bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Orrin Iseminger > > I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. > I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. > > This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the > melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion.? They were > standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator > would walk past.? Ring a bell? > > I've found several similar videos on YouTube; but, not this particular > one; I'm guessing it must reside on some other host site. > > Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty > such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine > doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. > (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start > Field Marshal tractor) > > Every little bit of help is welcome. > > Best regards, > > Orrin > In the unlikely case someone has not seen such a performance, here's a link: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbN-jO11vKg&feature=related _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Sun Aug 7 15:45:51 2011 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 15:45:51 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video Message-ID: <20110807.154615.967.1161004@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> This is the one I remember. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ThSi1wbqU&feature=bf_prev&list=FLFibTsuT h5B4&index=59 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 3000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e3f15cb623244856d1st01vuc From oldengin1 at gmail.com Sun Aug 7 15:58:11 2011 From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 18:58:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Findlay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Annie and Dave, guess what it did in findlay again this afternoon... We pulled up camp and left around 3:00 and am soaked. Leroy On Aug 7, 2011 6:27 PM, "Alan" wrote: On that one I just wish they had shut up for a bit so we could hear the engine better. Alan in Michigan --- On Sun, 8/7/11, Jim French wrote: From: Jim French Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Date: Sunday, August 7, 2011, 5:51 PM Not this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 Dolly > ---... From skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com Sun Aug 7 16:22:27 2011 From: skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com (SKIP CLEVELAND) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 19:22:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video References: <1312755672.5093.YahooMailClassic@web111723.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <03BB04362D01411996A4A5253AF7CC43@YOURDA6F5028CB> Here you go. Google "guys playing music to the beat of a tractor" and you get it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXyNKxjkLls Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video On that one I just wish they had shut up for a bit so we could hear the engine better. Alan in Michigan --- On Sun, 8/7/11, Jim French wrote: From: Jim French Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Date: Sunday, August 7, 2011, 5:51 PM Not this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 Dolly > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel- > bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Orrin Iseminger > > I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. > I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. > > This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the > melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were > standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator > would walk past. Ring a bell? > > I've found several similar videos on YouTube; but, not this particular > one; I'm guessing it must reside on some other host site. > > Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty > such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine > doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. > (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start > Field Marshal tractor) > > Every little bit of help is welcome. > > Best regards, > > Orrin > In the unlikely case someone has not seen such a performance, here's a link: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbN-jO11vKg&feature=related _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From oldengin1 at gmail.com Sun Aug 7 16:27:44 2011 From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 19:27:44 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Findlay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dave. Archie, guess what happened in findlay this afternoon. We watched as melons flowed down the river, and it rose over the road again. Leroy On Aug 5, 2011 7:58 AM, "Russell" wrote: G'day all, I posted some pic's of my 3.5hp portable Hornsby a little while back, well I have the hubs for the wheel fitted, cooling tower shower cast and fitted, fuel system all done, adjustments to the sprayer, oiler wicks in the oil wells, ...... so the plan is to try and start it on Sunday! Well my good friend Greg and I just could not help ourselves. Hat to put some heat onto it today between work shifts. Let me just say she is a bloody ripper. Started real easy. Made a slight adjustment to the exhaust timing and away it went real nice. YeeeeHAAArrrrr ! We only had a short time to play. Looking forward to Sunday afternoon, will fill the water tank and give it a real good run. I will try my hand at vidoeing it and putting it on you tube? Russell _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com Sun Aug 7 16:35:30 2011 From: skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com (SKIP CLEVELAND) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 19:35:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> Message-ID: <47DDFAC3C4754586942BC993E296F8DC@YOURDA6F5028CB> This is the name of the video of three guys playing guitar to the beat of a tractor "3 Guitars and a Tractor" This is the link to what someone was looking for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG5Z25ker0A Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim French" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video > Not this one? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 > > Dolly > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel- >> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Orrin Iseminger >> >> I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. >> I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. >> >> This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the >> melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were >> standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator >> would walk past. Ring a bell? >> >> I've found several similar videos on YouTube; but, not this particular >> one; I'm guessing it must reside on some other host site. >> >> Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty >> such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine >> doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. >> (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start >> Field Marshal tractor) >> >> Every little bit of help is welcome. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Orrin >> In the unlikely case someone has not seen such a performance, here's a > link: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbN-jO11vKg&feature=related > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Aug 7 17:07:15 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 20:07:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Dolly, Nope, that's close, but not the one I'm thinking of. There was no singing, just instrumental. And definitely an engine, not a tractor. Someone has it bookmarked... See ya, Arnie On Sun, August 7, 2011 5:51 pm, Jim French wrote: > Not this one? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 > > Dolly From djohn2 at bigpond.net.au Sun Aug 7 20:37:33 2011 From: djohn2 at bigpond.net.au (derek) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 13:07:33 +0930 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> Message-ID: <000001cc557c$82801700$87804500$@net.au> http://guitarsquid.com/Latest/do-tractors-and-washing-machines-keep-better-t ime-than-a-drummer-10-videos-for-your-consideration.html http://www.bottleneckjohn.com/BJengines.htm -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Monday, 8 August 2011 09:37 To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video Hi Dolly, From service.ka at edwardsmotors.com.au Sun Aug 7 21:20:33 2011 From: service.ka at edwardsmotors.com.au (Chester Smith) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 12:20:33 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com><002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> Message-ID: <017501cc5582$84bc8ac0$210110ac@Chester> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Fero" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video > Hi Dolly, > > Nope, that's close, but not the one I'm thinking of. There was no > singing, just instrumental. And definitely an engine, not a tractor. > > Someone has it bookmarked... > > See ya, Arnie > > On Sun, August 7, 2011 5:51 pm, Jim French wrote: >> Not this one? >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 >> >> Dolly > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From service.ka at edwardsmotors.com.au Sun Aug 7 21:23:26 2011 From: service.ka at edwardsmotors.com.au (Chester Smith) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 12:23:26 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com><002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> Message-ID: <017901cc5582$ebad14c0$210110ac@Chester> I reckon you are thinking of this one Arnie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn7hMMo_FvQ&feature=related Cheers, Chester. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Fero" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video > Hi Dolly, > > Nope, that's close, but not the one I'm thinking of. There was no > singing, just instrumental. And definitely an engine, not a tractor. > > Someone has it bookmarked... > > See ya, Arnie > > On Sun, August 7, 2011 5:51 pm, Jim French wrote: >> Not this one? >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 >> >> Dolly > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From obise at moscow.com Sun Aug 7 21:40:08 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 21:40:08 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20110807185558.01fd20b0@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110807185558.01fd20b0@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: <4E3F68A8.7090408@moscow.com> On 8/7/2011 10:00 AM, Jerry Evans wrote: > At 06:00 PM 07/08/2011, you wrote: >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 22:12:03 -0700 >> From: Orrin Iseminger >> Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video >> >> I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. >> I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. >> >> This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the >> melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were >> standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator >> would walk past. Ring a bell? >> >> I've found several similar videos on YouTube; but, not this particular >> one; I'm guessing it must reside on some other host site. >> >> Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty >> such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine >> doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. >> (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start >> Field Marshal tractor) >> >> Every little bit of help is welcome. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Orrin >> In the unlikely case someone has not seen such a performance, here's a link: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbN-jO11vKg&feature=related > Hi Orrin, > My immediate thought was to the one you supplied a link to. I have > that saved. > > I cannot help with your request but would also suggest that you > search for : Eaglesmith - Small Motors" a really great song which we could > all identify with. > > I hope that they play it at my funeral one day (hopefully not too > soon) :-) > > Keep well friend, > Jerry > Jerry, I may have sent out the link; but, now it is nowhere to be found. That sort of thing happens to me every so often, like three or four times a minute. :-) I watched and listened to Fred Eaglesmith's "Small Motors." It's appropriate, all right. When it finished, the "Up Next" pane flashed "My Last Six Dollars." That's the one I'm picking for my funeral. It describes my wild-oat years, perfectly. We're well, here, and hoping you, yours and your lady friend are the same. Is she all healed up from her injuries, yet? Last night my power lineman son stopped by and said he's considering taking a job in SA. I told him some of the things you've told about the country; but, he'd still like to give it a try, just to be able to say he's been there. Some of his acquaintances are already there, so they've filled him in on what it is like. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. From obise at moscow.com Sun Aug 7 21:42:47 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 21:42:47 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> Message-ID: <4E3F6947.9010309@moscow.com> Arnie, you nailed it. That's the one. Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 8/7/2011 2:42 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Hi Orrin, > > I know exactly the piece you're referring to. The engine was a > heavy-thumping semi-diesel, and one of the musicians was playing a > squeezebox. It was a GREAT video; unfortunately I don't appear to have it > bookmarked either. > > If you do recover the link, please post it. > > See ya, Arnie > > On Sun, August 7, 2011 1:12 am, Orrin Iseminger wrote: >> I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. >> I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. >> >> This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the >> melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were >> standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator >> would walk past. Ring a bell? > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From obise at moscow.com Sun Aug 7 21:45:44 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 21:45:44 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> Message-ID: <4E3F69F8.4080107@moscow.com> Thank you for helping, Dolly; but, that's not it. The one that Arnie and I have in mind is a little more upbeat, IIRC. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 8/7/2011 2:51 PM, Jim French wrote: > Not this one? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 > > Dolly > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel- >> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Orrin Iseminger >> >> I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. >> I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. >> >> This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the >> melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were >> standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator >> would walk past. Ring a bell? >> >> I've found several similar videos on YouTube; but, not this particular >> one; I'm guessing it must reside on some other host site. >> >> Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty >> such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine >> doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. >> (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start >> Field Marshal tractor) >> >> Every little bit of help is welcome. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Orrin >> In the unlikely case someone has not seen such a performance, here's a > link: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbN-jO11vKg&feature=related > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From obise at moscow.com Sun Aug 7 21:50:54 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 21:50:54 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <20110807.154615.967.1161004@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110807.154615.967.1161004@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <4E3F6B2E.6010500@moscow.com> That's a good one, Ron, and the one I used to sell the idea. That may have been a tactical mistake, however. Now, everybody is expecting a performance just as good. :-) Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 8/7/2011 3:45 PM, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote: > This is the one I remember. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ThSi1wbqU&feature=bf_prev&list=FLFibTsuT > h5B4&index=59 > > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > From obise at moscow.com Sun Aug 7 21:53:56 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 21:53:56 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <03BB04362D01411996A4A5253AF7CC43@YOURDA6F5028CB> References: <1312755672.5093.YahooMailClassic@web111723.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <03BB04362D01411996A4A5253AF7CC43@YOURDA6F5028CB> Message-ID: <4E3F6BE4.9050509@moscow.com> That's a good one, Skip, however I'm still looking for that elusive engine one. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 8/7/2011 4:22 PM, SKIP CLEVELAND wrote: > Here you go. Google "guys playing music to the beat of a tractor" and you get it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXyNKxjkLls > > Skip > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 6:21 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video > > > On that one I just wish they had shut up for a bit so we could hear the engine better. > > Alan in Michigan > > --- On Sun, 8/7/11, Jim French wrote: > > > From: Jim French > Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video > To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" > Date: Sunday, August 7, 2011, 5:51 PM > > > Not this one? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 > > Dolly > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel- >> bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Orrin Iseminger >> >> I'm looking for a certain music video that was recorded in Sweden. >> I've lost the link to it and am wondering if someone might have it. >> >> This particular video showed two (perhaps three) fellows playing the >> melody with a one-cylinder engine doing the percussion. They were >> standing very close to the machine and from time to time a spectator >> would walk past. Ring a bell? >> >> I've found several similar videos on YouTube; but, not this particular >> one; I'm guessing it must reside on some other host site. >> >> Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty >> such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine >> doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. >> (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start >> Field Marshal tractor) >> >> Every little bit of help is welcome. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Orrin >> In the unlikely case someone has not seen such a performance, here's a > link: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbN-jO11vKg&feature=related > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From obise at moscow.com Sun Aug 7 22:02:22 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 22:02:22 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <000001cc557c$82801700$87804500$@net.au> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> <000001cc557c$82801700$87804500$@net.au> Message-ID: <4E3F6DDE.2040407@moscow.com> Thank you for that, Derek. #6, the Oompa Band, is a hoot. :-) Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 8/7/2011 8:37 PM, derek wrote: > http://guitarsquid.com/Latest/do-tractors-and-washing-machines-keep-better-t > ime-than-a-drummer-10-videos-for-your-consideration.html > http://www.bottleneckjohn.com/BJengines.htm > > > From obise at moscow.com Sun Aug 7 22:14:19 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 22:14:19 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <017901cc5582$ebad14c0$210110ac@Chester> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com><002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> <017901cc5582$ebad14c0$210110ac@Chester> Message-ID: <4E3F70AB.8070502@moscow.com> That's it, Chester! That's the one! Teusen tuck! (thousand thanks) Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 8/7/2011 9:23 PM, Chester Smith wrote: > I reckon you are thinking of this one Arnie. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn7hMMo_FvQ&feature=related > > Cheers, Chester. From oldengin1 at gmail.com Mon Aug 8 03:06:55 2011 From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 06:06:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Findlay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Annie. Dave guess what it did sunday the river never did get out of her banks. We had a great show. From oldengin1 at gmail.com Mon Aug 8 03:03:28 2011 From: oldengin1 at gmail.com (Leroy Clark) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 06:03:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> <017901cc5582$ebad14c0$210110ac@Chester> <4E3F70AB.8070502@moscow.com> Message-ID: Annie yours had the squeeze box and a fellow that danced a little . On Aug 8, 2011 1:27 AM, "Orrin Iseminger" wrote: That's it, Chester! That's the one! Teusen tuck! (thousand thanks) Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many ... On 8/7/2011 9:23 PM, Chester Smith wrote: > I reckon you are thinking of this one Arnie. > > http://... _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com htt... From jnyost at yahoo.com Mon Aug 8 03:35:28 2011 From: jnyost at yahoo.com (James Yost) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 03:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Findlay Message-ID: <1312799728.75897.yint-ygo-j2me@web112604.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> This show is always great. It was great seeing all that showed up. Without saying the corn and melon was "SUPER GOOD". Hope all made it home safe. See ya at Portland. Jim and Janna Yost On Mon Aug 8th, 2011 6:06 AM EDT Leroy Clark wrote: >Annie. Dave guess what it did sunday the river never did get out of her >banks. We had a great show. >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Mon Aug 8 07:33:36 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George (DS)) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 09:33:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCED665C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> FIVE bucks!? Someone is ripping you off if you're charged $5 a shell. Never figured the cost on mine, but I'm sure it was well under an $1 a shell. Empty 12 gauge casings shouldn't cost you anything as your hunting or shooting friends can supply them for nothing. Basically, the primer and the powder are your only cost. I admit I haven't had to buy primers or powder for many years, but would still think it shouldn't cost much to reload starting shells. I've had a Field Marshall for over 15 years, and reload starting shells work fine. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Orrin Iseminger Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start Field Marshal tractor) Every little bit of help is welcome. Best regards, Orrin This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Aug 8 10:02:12 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 13:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Innovation in the Obamanation Message-ID: This is so incredibly perfect!! Innovation in the Obamanation is all about Hope & Change. Nothing actually needs to work. 8-)) http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/ideas/2011/07/welcome-to-the-department-of-innovation/ PS - Just in case the ol' brain is sluggish this morning, check the gear train in the logo. Priceless... From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Aug 8 11:00:06 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 20:00:06 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110808194419.01aac2e8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 08/08/2011, you wrote: >Message: 14 >Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 21:40:08 -0700 >From: Orrin Iseminger > >On 8/7/2011 10:00 AM, Jerry Evans wrote: > > At 06:00 PM 07/08/2011, you wrote: > >> Message: 1 > > >Jerry, I may have sent out the link; but, now it is nowhere to be >found. That sort >of thing happens to me every so often, like three or four times a >minute. :-) > >I watched and listened to Fred Eaglesmith's "Small Motors." It's >appropriate, >all right. When it finished, the "Up Next" pane flashed "My Last Six >Dollars." >That's the one I'm picking for my funeral. It describes my wild-oat years, >perfectly. > >We're well, here, and hoping you, yours and your lady friend are the same. >Is she all healed up from her injuries, yet? > >Last night my power lineman son stopped by and said he's considering taking >a job in SA. I told him some of the things you've told about the >country; but, >he'd still like to give it a try, just to be able to say he's been >there. Some of his >acquaintances are already there, so they've filled him in on what it is >like. > >Best regards, > >Orrin Hi Orrin, I checked out the YouTube videos of "Small Motors" by Fred Eaglesmith and was a bit disappointed. I have an .mp3 file (sound- no video) which is really great and has a lot more than the videos. For anyone interested, I've put a copy here: Stephanie is doing well - still in a wheelchair but doing a bit on crutches every day. Seems that crushed feet and ankle bones need some time to heal before putting all your weight on to them (she's not very "heavy" but still needs to be careful) :-) Let us know what happens re your son and we will give any assistance that we can. It's not too bad here if you are careful. I'd rather be here than New York or Chicago :-) (Tell him that Jacqui is taken but she's got friends :-)) Keep well, Jerry From obise at moscow.com Mon Aug 8 12:08:55 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 12:08:55 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCED665C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCED665C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <4E403447.1030103@moscow.com> George, I thought the number was a bit inflated; but, I'm not about to tell the most important member of this musical gig that he's wrong. :-) I'm equipped to to the reloading, so after the dust clears I'll fix him up with as many blanks as he'll ever need. You can be sure I'll lend the guy a helping hand if that is what he is actually paying. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 8/8/2011 7:33 AM, Best, George (DS) wrote: > FIVE bucks!? > > Someone is ripping you off if you're charged $5 a shell. > > Never figured the cost on mine, but I'm sure it was well under an $1 a shell. > Empty 12 gauge casings shouldn't cost you anything as your hunting or shooting friends can supply them for nothing. > Basically, the primer and the powder are your only cost. > I admit I haven't had to buy primers or powder for many years, but would still think it shouldn't cost much to reload starting shells. > > I've had a Field Marshall for over 15 years, and reload starting shells work fine. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Orrin Iseminger > > > Our club is trying to put together a tractor/combo act (there are plenty > such videos on YouTube) and if we could add some variety with an engine > doing percussion it ought to provide an extra bit of interest. > (besides, it costs five bucks every time we fire up the cartridge-start > Field Marshal tractor) > > Every little bit of help is welcome. > > Best regards, > > Orrin > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Mon Aug 8 12:45:32 2011 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 15:45:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Latest big haul of engines :) In-Reply-To: <4E403447.1030103@moscow.com> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCED665C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>, <4E403447.1030103@moscow.com> Message-ID: Here is a link to pictures from my latest big haul of engines :) http://gasenginetom.com/buying_NY_collection.html Tom Winland Ohio From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Aug 8 14:50:45 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 17:50:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Latest big haul of engines :) In-Reply-To: References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCED665C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>, <4E403447.1030103@moscow.com> Message-ID: <18b3befbbefec99e68238c70e9ee0b21.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Tom, That's a SERIOUS load of Olde Iron!! Arnie On Mon, August 8, 2011 3:45 pm, Tom Winland wrote: > > Here is a link to pictures from my latest big haul of engines :) > http://gasenginetom.com/buying_NY_collection.html From George_Best at adp.com Mon Aug 8 15:24:15 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George (DS)) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 17:24:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Latest big haul of engines :) In-Reply-To: <18b3befbbefec99e68238c70e9ee0b21.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCED665C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>, <4E403447.1030103@moscow.com> <18b3befbbefec99e68238c70e9ee0b21.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCFA064E@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> With both Jon and Tom buying so much, Ohio has become a serious importer of old iron! On a state by state basis probably more iron is going into Ohio than any other state. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 2:51 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Latest big haul of engines :) Tom, That's a SERIOUS load of Olde Iron!! Arnie On Mon, August 8, 2011 3:45 pm, Tom Winland wrote: > > Here is a link to pictures from my latest big haul of engines :) > http://gasenginetom.com/buying_NY_collection.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Mon Aug 8 16:11:14 2011 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 16:11:14 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Innovation in the Obamanation In-Reply-To: <8f97f12338beeadfcfe30fb2813b272d.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <8f97f12338beeadfcfe30fb2813b272d.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: <9E561BBF7FBD42E89665DA69CC28331F@JandDHP> Somebody must have been told that the gears won't turn. If you click on the link you will see that the right hand gear has been moved upward so as to clear the others. In spite of that the tooth spacing is out to lunch and tooth shape is right along with it. -----Original Message----- From: Arnie Fero Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 9:46 AM To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org ; slick at toltbbs.com ; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Innovation in the Obamanation This is so incredibly perfect!! Innovation in the Obamanation is all about Hope & Change. Nothing actually needs to work. 8-)) http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/ideas/2011/07/welcome-to-the-department-of-innovation/ PS - Just in case the ol' brain is sluggish this morning, check the gear train in the logo. Priceless... ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1391 / Virus Database: 1520/3821 - Release Date: 08/08/11 From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Mon Aug 8 19:18:01 2011 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 22:18:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Latest big haul of engines :) In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCFA064E@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com>, , <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCED665C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>, , <4E403447.1030103@moscow.com> , <18b3befbbefec99e68238c70e9ee0b21.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCFA064E@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: LOL maybe George, but we do our share of exporting too Tom > From: George_Best at adp.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 17:24:15 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Latest big haul of engines :) > > With both Jon and Tom buying so much, Ohio has become a serious importer of old iron! > > On a state by state basis probably more iron is going into Ohio than any other state. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 2:51 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Latest big haul of engines :) > > Tom, That's a SERIOUS load of Olde Iron!! Arnie > > On Mon, August 8, 2011 3:45 pm, Tom Winland wrote: > > > > Here is a link to pictures from my latest big haul of engines :) > > http://gasenginetom.com/buying_NY_collection.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Mon Aug 8 20:18:06 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:18:06 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Bringing the toys home Message-ID: I am finally getting some time to organise the new workshop. So far two loads of engines have made it home. On the first batch to make it home was the Fairbanks-Morse No.1 Eclipse and my flywheel governed 1hp R&V. The next trip consisted of the 3.5hp Austral Oil Engine portable and the flyball governed 1hp R&V. Last weekend I hauled home the 2hp R&V, Baker 'Little Monitor' and 4hp Challenge. Some of these engines have been in storage for a long time so need a little TLC. So far I have had the Eclipse, Austral and one of the R&Vs running. I now have to finish sorting out the workshop and make some room for a couple more to come home. I did manage to get a couple of fires out of the Challenge last night but it has not been touched since 2003 so needs a little work. It blew a heap of crap out of the priming cup as I was rolling it over (with the buzz coil connected) and drew quite a bit of blood from my forehead. Stupid me not disconnecting the coil. Patrick Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Aug 8 20:58:09 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 23:58:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <017901cc5582$ebad14c0$210110ac@Chester> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com><002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> <017901cc5582$ebad14c0$210110ac@Chester> Message-ID: <3229a8abe1f55f19dfb627fa0c9c94c5.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> Chester, THAT'S IT!!! Thanks!! See ya, Arnie On Mon, August 8, 2011 12:23 am, Chester Smith wrote: > I reckon you are thinking of this one Arnie. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn7hMMo_FvQ&feature=related > > Cheers, Chester. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arnie Fero" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 8:07 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video > > >> Hi Dolly, >> >> Nope, that's close, but not the one I'm thinking of. There was no >> singing, just instrumental. And definitely an engine, not a tractor. >> >> Someone has it bookmarked... >> >> See ya, Arnie >> >> On Sun, August 7, 2011 5:51 pm, Jim French wrote: >>> Not this one? >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmRypjAUcU&list=FLFibTsuTh5B4&index=60 >>> >>> Dolly >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From elidas at aol.com Tue Aug 9 19:48:11 2011 From: elidas at aol.com (Elida Semanoff) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 22:48:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Latest big haul of engines :) In-Reply-To: References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDCED665C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>, <4E403447.1030103@moscow.com> Message-ID: <8CE251F139465EF-1A6C-7D6D@webmail-m024.sysops.aol.com> -----Original Message----- From: Tom Winland To: SEL list Sent: Mon, Aug 8, 2011 2:56 pm Subject: [SEL] Latest big haul of engines :) ere is a link to pictures from my latest big haul of engines :) http://gasenginetom.com/buying_NY_collection.html om Winland hio I see a nice Coldwell with a Fuller and Johnson on it. Good haul! ______________________________________________ EL mailing list EL at lists.stationary-engine.com ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Wed Aug 10 18:01:46 2011 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:01:46 -0600 Subject: [SEL] 5hp Ottawa Drag Saw Message-ID: G'day all...life is good' Buddy of mine who doesn't do cyberspace has a 5hp Ottawa Dragsaw, TG, EK Fired, both valves mechanically actuated and runs around 500 rpm. It will boil water in a matter of minutes and he's wondering what the timing should be. Says he can't find any reference on the newer engine with both valves mechanically actuated. Said he'd sure appreciate some help so told him I'd post on here. Any ideas?? RickinMt. From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Aug 10 21:24:25 2011 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:24:25 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 5hp Ottawa Drag Saw Message-ID: <20110810.212507.962.1617709@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com> Hi Rick. The generic timing for the old engines is 5 degrees of advance for each 100 rpm. So 25 degrees of advance at 500. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:01:46 -0600 "Richard Strobel" writes: > G'day all...life is good' > Buddy of mine who doesn't do cyberspace has a 5hp Ottawa Dragsaw, > TG, EK > Fired, both valves mechanically actuated and runs around 500 rpm. > It will > boil water in a matter of minutes and he's wondering what the timing > should > be. Says he can't find any reference on the newer engine with both > valves > mechanically actuated. > > Said he'd sure appreciate some help so told him I'd post on here. > > Any ideas?? > > RickinMt. ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 3000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e4359cd8f78c554793st04vuc From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Aug 10 21:26:27 2011 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:26:27 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 5hp Ottawa Drag Saw Message-ID: <20110810.212708.962.1617717@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com> Correction Rick. It is 5 degrees for low tension ignition, and 3 for high tension. So it should be 15 degrees for his engine. Ron. On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:01:46 -0600 "Richard Strobel" writes: > G'day all...life is good' > Buddy of mine who doesn't do cyberspace has a 5hp Ottawa Dragsaw, > TG, EK > Fired, both valves mechanically actuated and runs around 500 rpm. > It will > boil water in a matter of minutes and he's wondering what the timing > should > be. Says he can't find any reference on the newer engine with both > valves > mechanically actuated. > > Said he'd sure appreciate some help so told him I'd post on here. > > Any ideas?? > > RickinMt. ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 3000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e435a47a66ea554982st06vuc From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Thu Aug 11 19:17:51 2011 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 20:17:51 -0600 Subject: [SEL] 5hp Ottawa Drag Saw In-Reply-To: <20110810.212708.962.1617717@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110810.212708.962.1617717@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Thanks Ron..after playing with it, he's says it runs much better. Regards, RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] 5hp Ottawa Drag Saw > Correction Rick. It is 5 degrees for low tension ignition, and 3 for > high tension. So it should be 15 degrees for his engine. > Ron. > > On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:01:46 -0600 "Richard Strobel" > writes: > > G'day all...life is good' > > Buddy of mine who doesn't do cyberspace has a 5hp Ottawa Dragsaw, > > TG, EK > > Fired, both valves mechanically actuated and runs around 500 rpm. > > It will > > boil water in a matter of minutes and he's wondering what the timing > > should > > be. Says he can't find any reference on the newer engine with both > > valves > > mechanically actuated. > > > > Said he'd sure appreciate some help so told him I'd post on here. > > > > Any ideas?? > > > > RickinMt. > ____________________________________________________________ > Penny Stock Jumping 3000% > Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e435a47a66ea554982st06vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From cgandree at mchsi.com Sat Aug 13 03:46:58 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 05:46:58 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed Message-ID: <761017488.9677391313232417916.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Hi all, Trying to set the timing on a older 3hp Witte with a EK mag. I could use a detailed pic of how to set the timing for where the trip arm and mag should be set to fire correctly. I am not sure if all the parts are there as some one prior have stuck some flat washers in with the trip arm spring, trying to compensate or something. Any and all help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance, Curt Andree From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Aug 13 07:10:15 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 10:10:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed In-Reply-To: <761017488.9677391313232417916.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: <761017488.9677391313232417916.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <66b76e6bf01fb4e801190d2600f7d131.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> Hi Curt, Download a manual for the EK mag from one of the sites like Internal Fire or Jerry Evans. It has great directions and sketches for all of the different types of EK trip. Also if you download a manual for the Witte it will show you how to use a stick (or other straightedge) to line-up the timing marks on the flywheel rim with the top of the water hopper. One other comment... Sometimes I've found that when I've had EK mag trouble, it's helped to replace the springs in the trip. If you tell any of the "mag guys" which type of trip you have they can send you the correct springs. See ya, Arnie On Sat, August 13, 2011 6:46 am, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > Hi all, > Trying to set the timing on a older 3hp Witte with a EK mag. I could use > a detailed pic of how to set the timing for where the trip arm and mag > should be set to fire correctly. I am not sure if all the parts are there > as some one prior have stuck some flat washers in with the trip arm > spring, trying to compensate or something. From Germoamer at aol.com Sat Aug 13 08:13:09 2011 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:13:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed Message-ID: <37ea3.51a3ada5.3b77ee85@aol.com> In a message dated 8/13/2011 6:57:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cgandree at mchsi.com writes: I am not sure if all the parts are there as someone prior have stuck some flat washers in with the trip arm spring, Curt, Lots of times you will find washers with the trip arm springs. For some reason the springs were made short and the washers were used to take all the slack out of the spring, or even to slightly compress it. I asked someone who had been in this business for for a long time how come this was, and he had no answer other than that is the way it was done years ago. Most all of mine are shimmed tight with the washers. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at aol.com From russell at ncable.com.au Mon Aug 15 15:25:08 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:25:08 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland show In-Reply-To: <39118a132e1b270f8ad00dc56fa62f3c.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>, <2753ba566910ac2b49e1a7d376d7042e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>, , <0ecbae87eea67dc31488d94b14f5b06f.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> <1ff4a512e3c53a5e2b1a5f19d5e6138a.squirrel@webmail2.web.com> <39118a132e1b270f8ad00dc56fa62f3c.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: <43C5AB41-1AB8-4AB5-B7BA-2E522D9E332B@ncable.com.au> G'day all you lucky folk going to Portland again this year. There will be another Aussie poking about (not me unfortunately) whom I have said to find the SEL area and say hi. His name is John Rutherford; If any of you guys get the TOMM (aussie engine mag) you have read the stories of some of his engine restorations. Very cluey with casting and machining. He has done some great work for me over the time. I mentioned Dave, Arnie and the Royster boys to him. He may have some questions on how to get some stuff brought home. If you are able to give him some humble advice that would be great. regards Russell From rdi at rochester.rr.com Mon Aug 15 16:26:13 2011 From: rdi at rochester.rr.com (Rick I.) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:26:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed References: Message-ID: <4C986D26BB6A4C1098EEBE6BA1391C51@marlin> > In a message dated 8/13/2011 6:57:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > cgandree at mchsi.com writes: > > I am not sure if all the parts are there as someone prior have stuck some > flat washers in with the trip arm spring, On a "Type #2" drive (if that's what you find you have), there is also a long bolt that is hidden inside the center of the drive spring (that drives the trip finger forward). If this bolt backs out a little, everything with the trip will LOOK like it's working just dandy when you spin the flywheels, but it will in fact not snap forward fast enough to produce a spark. -Rick I. From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Aug 15 17:30:38 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:30:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland show In-Reply-To: <43C5AB41-1AB8-4AB5-B7BA-2E522D9E332B@ncable.com.au> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>, <2753ba566910ac2b49e1a7d376d7042e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>, , <0ecbae87eea67dc31488d94b14f5b06f.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com><1ff4a512e3c53a5e2b1a5f19d5e6138a.squirrel@webmail2.web.com><39118a132e1b270f8ad00dc56fa62f3c.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> <43C5AB41-1AB8-4AB5-B7BA-2E522D9E332B@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Russell: You know we will do our best to make John feel at home, we have all the comforts of home and the medicine to cure any ills. Plus, you know how I love to import export. Tell him to look for the good Royster stand by the bad Royster! MR -----Original Message----- From: Russell Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:25 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Portland show G'day all you lucky folk going to Portland again this year. There will be another Aussie poking about (not me unfortunately) whom I have said to find the SEL area and say hi. His name is John Rutherford; If any of you guys get the TOMM (aussie engine mag) you have read the stories of some of his engine restorations. Very cluey with casting and machining. He has done some great work for me over the time. I mentioned Dave, Arnie and the Royster boys to him. He may have some questions on how to get some stuff brought home. If you are able to give him some humble advice that would be great. regards Russell _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From cgandree at mchsi.com Mon Aug 15 17:43:33 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:43:33 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed In-Reply-To: <4C986D26BB6A4C1098EEBE6BA1391C51@marlin> Message-ID: <331740475.10012211313455413479.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Rick, Not sure what exactly your talking about as far as a hidden bolt. I check for that and don't see one. thanks, Curt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick I." To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:26:13 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed > In a message dated 8/13/2011 6:57:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > cgandree at mchsi.com writes: > > I am not sure if all the parts are there as someone prior have stuck some > flat washers in with the trip arm spring, On a "Type #2" drive (if that's what you find you have), there is also a long bolt that is hidden inside the center of the drive spring (that drives the trip finger forward). If this bolt backs out a little, everything with the trip will LOOK like it's working just dandy when you spin the flywheels, but it will in fact not snap forward fast enough to produce a spark. -Rick I. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From asouth42 at embarqmail.com Mon Aug 15 17:55:59 2011 From: asouth42 at embarqmail.com (Arthur&Deana Southwell) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:55:59 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: <000001cc557c$82801700$87804500$@net.au> References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> <000001cc557c$82801700$87804500$@net.au> Message-ID: Is this any where near what you are looking for? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDHzK3Xe7Yw -------------------------------------------------- From: "derek" Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 11:37 PM To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video > http://guitarsquid.com/Latest/do-tractors-and-washing-machines-keep-better-t > ime-than-a-drummer-10-videos-for-your-consideration.html > http://www.bottleneckjohn.com/BJengines.htm > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero > Sent: Monday, 8 August 2011 09:37 > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video > > Hi Dolly, > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1391 / Virus Database: 1520/3820 - Release Date: 08/07/11 > From rotigel at me.com Mon Aug 15 17:59:42 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:59:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed In-Reply-To: <331740475.10012211313455413479.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: <331740475.10012211313455413479.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <67A78210-325E-41A9-BD99-E43F616D3F1A@me.com> That's why it's called "hidden" curt! Dave On Aug 15, 2011, at 8:43 PM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > Rick, > Not sure what exactly your talking about as far as a hidden bolt. I > check for that and don't see one. > thanks, > Curt > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick I." > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:26:13 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed > >> In a message dated 8/13/2011 6:57:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> cgandree at mchsi.com writes: >> >> I am not sure if all the parts are there as someone prior have >> stuck some >> flat washers in with the trip arm spring, > > On a "Type #2" drive (if that's what you find you have), there is > also a > long bolt that is hidden inside the center of the drive spring (that > drives > the trip finger forward). If this bolt backs out a little, > everything with > the trip will LOOK like it's working just dandy when you spin the > flywheels, > but it will in fact not snap forward fast enough to produce a spark. > > -Rick I. From tchristoff at earthlink.net Mon Aug 15 19:30:25 2011 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:30:25 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [SEL] Portland show Message-ID: <32720420.1313461825884.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> -----Original Message----- >From: Mike Royster Tell him to look for the good Royster stand by the >bad Royster! > >MR > The Good Royster????????????????????????????????? Tim Tim Christoff From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Aug 15 20:11:57 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:11:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland show In-Reply-To: <32720420.1313461825884.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <32720420.1313461825884.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Ain't that a puzzle????? -----Original Message----- From: Tim Christoff Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 10:30 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show -----Original Message----- >From: Mike Royster Tell him to look for the good Royster stand by the >bad Royster! > >MR > The Good Royster????????????????????????????????? Tim Tim Christoff _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From obise at moscow.com Mon Aug 15 21:03:02 2011 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin Iseminger) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:03:02 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Looking for an engine-music video In-Reply-To: References: <4E3E1EA3.5000404@moscow.com> <002d01cc554c$2b0a6a00$811f3e00$@co.uk> <000001cc557c$82801700$87804500$@net.au> Message-ID: <4E49EBF6.6060502@moscow.com> Chester found it for us. This is it: Gunnar, Ronny og Rapp IC 17 hk semidiesel 1946 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn7hMMo_FvQ&feature=related I got out my Cushman, today, and was able to match the oil engine's beat and even go slower, if need be; hopefully, the musicians can use it as their percussion section. Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. On 8/15/2011 5:55 PM, Arthur&Deana Southwell wrote: > Is this any where near what you are looking for? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDHzK3Xe7Yw From cgandree at mchsi.com Tue Aug 16 04:28:10 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 06:28:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed In-Reply-To: <67A78210-325E-41A9-BD99-E43F616D3F1A@me.com> Message-ID: <1628902626.10052231313494090754.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Ok, Ok Mr. Dave good come back. I will let you show me where the heck its hiding at, at Baraboo this week! Curt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:59:42 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed That's why it's called "hidden" curt! Dave On Aug 15, 2011, at 8:43 PM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > Rick, > Not sure what exactly your talking about as far as a hidden bolt. I > check for that and don't see one. > thanks, > Curt > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick I." > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:26:13 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed > >> In a message dated 8/13/2011 6:57:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> cgandree at mchsi.com writes: >> >> I am not sure if all the parts are there as someone prior have >> stuck some >> flat washers in with the trip arm spring, > > On a "Type #2" drive (if that's what you find you have), there is > also a > long bolt that is hidden inside the center of the drive spring (that > drives > the trip finger forward). If this bolt backs out a little, > everything with > the trip will LOOK like it's working just dandy when you spin the > flywheels, > but it will in fact not snap forward fast enough to produce a spark. > > -Rick I. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Tue Aug 16 05:45:51 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:45:51 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed In-Reply-To: <1628902626.10052231313494090754.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: <1628902626.10052231313494090754.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <412AF1E1-AD97-4C20-BCB0-21F42930DE63@me.com> Looking forward to seeing you Curt! Arnie and I will meet for breakfast at 5:00 a.m. and be on the road by 6:00! Dave On Aug 16, 2011, at 7:28 AM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > Ok, Ok Mr. Dave good come back. I will let you show me where the > heck its hiding at, at Baraboo this week! > Curt > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Rotigel" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:59:42 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed > > That's why it's called "hidden" curt! > Dave > > On Aug 15, 2011, at 8:43 PM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > >> Rick, >> Not sure what exactly your talking about as far as a hidden bolt. I >> check for that and don't see one. >> thanks, >> Curt >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rick I." >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:26:13 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed >> >>> In a message dated 8/13/2011 6:57:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> cgandree at mchsi.com writes: >>> >>> I am not sure if all the parts are there as someone prior have >>> stuck some >>> flat washers in with the trip arm spring, >> >> On a "Type #2" drive (if that's what you find you have), there is >> also a >> long bolt that is hidden inside the center of the drive spring (that >> drives >> the trip finger forward). If this bolt backs out a little, >> everything with >> the trip will LOOK like it's working just dandy when you spin the >> flywheels, >> but it will in fact not snap forward fast enough to produce a spark. >> >> -Rick I. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From cgandree at mchsi.com Tue Aug 16 06:21:50 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:21:50 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed In-Reply-To: <412AF1E1-AD97-4C20-BCB0-21F42930DE63@me.com> Message-ID: <2084575945.10067761313500910441.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Same here Dave. I will be there tomorrow am to set up and if you guys need anything give me a shout. DRIVE SAFE! Curt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:45:51 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed Looking forward to seeing you Curt! Arnie and I will meet for breakfast at 5:00 a.m. and be on the road by 6:00! Dave On Aug 16, 2011, at 7:28 AM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > Ok, Ok Mr. Dave good come back. I will let you show me where the > heck its hiding at, at Baraboo this week! > Curt > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Rotigel" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:59:42 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed > > That's why it's called "hidden" curt! > Dave > > On Aug 15, 2011, at 8:43 PM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > >> Rick, >> Not sure what exactly your talking about as far as a hidden bolt. I >> check for that and don't see one. >> thanks, >> Curt >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rick I." >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 6:26:13 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Witte Eng help needed >> >>> In a message dated 8/13/2011 6:57:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> cgandree at mchsi.com writes: >>> >>> I am not sure if all the parts are there as someone prior have >>> stuck some >>> flat washers in with the trip arm spring, >> >> On a "Type #2" drive (if that's what you find you have), there is >> also a >> long bolt that is hidden inside the center of the drive spring (that >> drives >> the trip finger forward). If this bolt backs out a little, >> everything with >> the trip will LOOK like it's working just dandy when you spin the >> flywheels, >> but it will in fact not snap forward fast enough to produce a spark. >> >> -Rick I. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From langer5 at xplornet.ca Tue Aug 16 07:00:00 2011 From: langer5 at xplornet.ca (Larry Anger) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:00:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" Message-ID: Just wondering if there is a traditional gathering this year at the "Back 40 Junction" on Thursday night during the Portland show? Larry Anger From Jim at hardmanfamily.net Tue Aug 16 07:37:06 2011 From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net (Jim Hardman) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:37:06 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Model A Ford Engine Message-ID: <1384E04F6EFC4BE08F683E79AFE5D00B@JamesDesktop> Interesting video, a junk engine resurrected to teach youngsters... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2LWwZI1LM&feature=youtu.be From steve_royster at hotmail.com Tue Aug 16 08:30:55 2011 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:30:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland show In-Reply-To: References: <32720420.1313461825884.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>, Message-ID: I forgot, Which one of us is the good Royster?? Steve > From: mr at carolina.rr.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:11:57 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show > > Ain't that a puzzle????? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Christoff > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 10:30 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show > > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Mike Royster > Tell him to look for the good Royster stand by the > >bad Royster! > > > >MR > > > The Good Royster????????????????????????????????? > > Tim > > Tim Christoff > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Aug 16 09:15:42 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:15:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland show In-Reply-To: <43C5AB41-1AB8-4AB5-B7BA-2E522D9E332B@ncable.com.au> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>, <2753ba566910ac2b49e1a7d376d7042e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com>, , <0ecbae87eea67dc31488d94b14f5b06f.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> <1ff4a512e3c53a5e2b1a5f19d5e6138a.squirrel@webmail2.web.com> <39118a132e1b270f8ad00dc56fa62f3c.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> <43C5AB41-1AB8-4AB5-B7BA-2E522D9E332B@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <4dd8199bf7c44667c534a0ff07827aaa.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> G'day Russell, Getting stuff back home? Bloody hell mate, who has more experience than you do? You've shipped engines, bits and bobs, and a whole bloody Corvette back to Oz. What could we possibly add to your vast and successful experience? The other option is Reggie's "overweight luggage." 8-)) See ya, Arnie On Mon, August 15, 2011 6:25 pm, Russell wrote: > G'day all you lucky folk going to Portland again this year. There will be > another Aussie poking about (not me unfortunately) whom I have said to > find the SEL area and say hi. His name is John Rutherford; If any of you > guys get the TOMM (aussie engine mag) you have read the stories of some of > his engine restorations. Very cluey with casting and machining. He has > done some great work for me over the time. I mentioned Dave, Arnie and the > Royster boys to him. He may have some questions on how to get some stuff > brought home. If you are able to give him some humble advice that would be > great. > > regards Russell > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Tue Aug 16 09:31:18 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:31:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland show In-Reply-To: <4dd8199bf7c44667c534a0ff07827aaa.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110719200903.01a65c60@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> <2753ba566910ac2b49e1a7d376d7042e.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> <0ecbae87eea67dc31488d94b14f5b06f.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> <1ff4a512e3c53a5e2b1a5f19d5e6138a.squirrel@webmail2.web.com> <39118a132e1b270f8ad00dc56fa62f3c.squirrel@mail.realprodata.com> <43C5AB41-1AB8-4AB5-B7BA-2E522D9E332B@ncable.com.au> <4dd8199bf7c44667c534a0ff07827aaa.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: <395C04E5-C797-457F-8952-65796AEE023F@me.com> And we should all remember the illegal fly swatter that Reg tried to smuggle into OZ as well! Dave On Aug 16, 2011, at 12:15 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > G'day Russell, > > Getting stuff back home? Bloody hell mate, who has more experience > than > you do? You've shipped engines, bits and bobs, and a whole bloody > Corvette back to Oz. > What could we possibly add to your vast and successful experience? > > The other option is Reggie's "overweight luggage." 8-)) > > See ya, Arnie > > On Mon, August 15, 2011 6:25 pm, Russell wrote: >> G'day all you lucky folk going to Portland again this year. There >> will be >> another Aussie poking about (not me unfortunately) whom I have said >> to >> find the SEL area and say hi. His name is John Rutherford; If any >> of you >> guys get the TOMM (aussie engine mag) you have read the stories of >> some of >> his engine restorations. Very cluey with casting and machining. He >> has >> done some great work for me over the time. I mentioned Dave, Arnie >> and the >> Royster boys to him. He may have some questions on how to get some >> stuff >> brought home. If you are able to give him some humble advice that >> would be >> great. >> >> regards Russell >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Aug 16 10:22:31 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:22:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Larry, AFAIK, there is no official gathering at the Back Forty this year. I think folks are planning on some sort of Cajun feast at the showgrounds in the SEL area on Thursday night. See ya, Arnie On Tue, August 16, 2011 10:00 am, Larry Anger wrote: > Just wondering if there is a traditional gathering this year at the "Back > 40 Junction" on Thursday night during the Portland show? From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Aug 16 11:54:10 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:54:10 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110816205158.01f9a250@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 16/08/2011, you wrote: >Message: 15 >Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:30:55 -0400 >From: Steve Royster >Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show >To: The SEL email discussion list >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >I forgot, Which one of us is the good Royster?? Steve Sometimes it's you Steve - Sometimes it's Him !!! (Mostly it's you !!!) Keep well and enjoy the show Jerry From langer5 at xplornet.ca Tue Aug 16 12:07:58 2011 From: langer5 at xplornet.ca (Larry Anger) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:07:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> Thanks Arnie - We, (my wife, Roberto, & I) Plan on attending again this year and actually displaying a Czech engine in the SEL area. That is if the Royster lads make it with my engine!! Larry -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:23 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" Hi Larry, AFAIK, there is no official gathering at the Back Forty this year. I think folks are planning on some sort of Cajun feast at the showgrounds in the SEL area on Thursday night. See ya, Arnie On Tue, August 16, 2011 10:00 am, Larry Anger wrote: > Just wondering if there is a traditional gathering this year at the "Back > 40 Junction" on Thursday night during the Portland show? _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Aug 16 12:55:38 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:55:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" In-Reply-To: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> Message-ID: EXCELLENT!! I'm bringing my Lorenz this year as well. Now if we can just get Mike to bring ALL of his Lorenz & Benz engines... On Tue, August 16, 2011 3:07 pm, Larry Anger wrote: > Thanks Arnie - We, (my wife, Roberto, & I) Plan on attending again this > year > and actually displaying a Czech engine in the SEL area. That is if the > Royster lads make it with my engine!! From steve_royster at hotmail.com Tue Aug 16 13:02:27 2011 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 16:02:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20110816205158.01f9a250@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: Jerry, Thanks for settimg me straight, I needed to know how to act at Portland! Steve >> > > >I forgot, Which one of us is the good Royster?? Steve > > > Sometimes it's you Steve - Sometimes it's Him !!! (Mostly it's you !!!) > Keep well and enjoy the show > Jerry > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Tue Aug 16 13:35:01 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:35:01 -0500 Subject: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" In-Reply-To: References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDD60D5F3@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Arnie, Does that mean they'll be added to the Czech registry??? ;-) Sure wish it wasn't so far to Portland (the other one). About this time of year I miss not going there. At least I made it to Coolspring this year!!! George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:56 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" EXCELLENT!! I'm bringing my Lorenz this year as well. Now if we can just get Mike to bring ALL of his Lorenz & Benz engines... On Tue, August 16, 2011 3:07 pm, Larry Anger wrote: > Thanks Arnie - We, (my wife, Roberto, & I) Plan on attending again this > year > and actually displaying a Czech engine in the SEL area. That is if the > Royster lads make it with my engine!! _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From mr at carolina.rr.com Tue Aug 16 18:02:16 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:02:16 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20110816205158.01f9a250@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110816205158.01f9a250@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: <154D6FA3AEC943A3A3589EA365D8DA14@RoysterPC> OUCH! That hurts coming from you Jerry! According to the calendar I was supposed to be the good Royster at Portland, Steve was the good Royster at Coolspring! MR -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Evans Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:54 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10 At 06:00 PM 16/08/2011, you wrote: >Message: 15 >Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:30:55 -0400 >From: Steve Royster >Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show >To: The SEL email discussion list >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >I forgot, Which one of us is the good Royster?? Steve Sometimes it's you Steve - Sometimes it's Him !!! (Mostly it's you !!!) Keep well and enjoy the show Jerry _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Tue Aug 16 18:04:07 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:04:07 -0400 Subject: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" In-Reply-To: References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> Message-ID: I think the scale is tipping in Larry's favor as "keeper of the Lorenz". MR -----Original Message----- From: Arnie Fero Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:55 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" EXCELLENT!! I'm bringing my Lorenz this year as well. Now if we can just get Mike to bring ALL of his Lorenz & Benz engines... On Tue, August 16, 2011 3:07 pm, Larry Anger wrote: > Thanks Arnie - We, (my wife, Roberto, & I) Plan on attending again this > year > and actually displaying a Czech engine in the SEL area. That is if the > Royster lads make it with my engine!! _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From oldironnut at windstream.net Wed Aug 17 05:07:41 2011 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 08:07:41 -0400 Subject: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" In-Reply-To: References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> Message-ID: <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> On Aug 16, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Now if we can just get Mike to bring ALL of his Lorenz & Benz engines... So how high would the stack of folded tarps be if that happened? ______________________ Michael Tucker oldironnut at windstream.net Versailles, Kentucky, USA ______________________ From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Aug 17 07:57:56 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 10:57:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: <154D6FA3AEC943A3A3589EA365D8DA14@RoysterPC> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110816205158.01f9a250@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> <154D6FA3AEC943A3A3589EA365D8DA14@RoysterPC> Message-ID: <51557336d365d3669ccbf7c394c5c269.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Yeah, but... You weren't planning on being influenced by Dolly French (aka the SEL Flamemistress) at Portland. Y'all are doomed.... On Tue, August 16, 2011 9:02 pm, Mike Royster wrote: > OUCH! That hurts coming from you Jerry! According to the calendar I was > supposed to be the good Royster at Portland, Steve was the good Royster at > Coolspring! From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 17 09:40:49 2011 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (=?utf-8?B?c2x1Z2dvNTRAaG90bWFpbC5jb20=?=) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 10:40:49 -0600 Subject: [SEL] =?utf-8?q?Reg=27s_fly_shatter?= Message-ID: "And we should all remember the illegal fly swatter that Reg tried to ? smuggle into OZ as well! Dave" On reflection, that was possibly a case of mis-packaging. How about buying a badminton set, removing the rackets, replacing them with two of those heinous fly shatters, and shipping them to Reg that way? I'm pretty sure he doesn't really need them all that badly - now its a matter of proving it can be done. Bruce Younger There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter. E. Hemingway From rotigel at me.com Wed Aug 17 09:49:19 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 12:49:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: <51557336d365d3669ccbf7c394c5c269.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110816205158.01f9a250@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> <154D6FA3AEC943A3A3589EA365D8DA14@RoysterPC> <51557336d365d3669ccbf7c394c5c269.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: <0A44624A-3F9B-4522-B055-6EB52368D32B@me.com> My understanding is that Little Lisa plans to be at Portland as well. Remember what BOTH of them did to her last time she was at Portland! I just hope that they have matured a bit since that night! Dave On Aug 17, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Yeah, but... You weren't planning on being influenced by Dolly French > (aka the SEL Flamemistress) at Portland. Y'all are doomed.... > > On Tue, August 16, 2011 9:02 pm, Mike Royster wrote: >> OUCH! That hurts coming from you Jerry! According to the calendar >> I was >> supposed to be the good Royster at Portland, Steve was the good >> Royster at >> Coolspring! > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Wed Aug 17 09:53:27 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 12:53:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Reg's fly shatter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bruce, Are you aware of the time someone snailed 3 boxes of 12ga shotgun shells to a List member in OZ? Dave On Aug 17, 2011, at 12:40 PM, sluggo54 at hotmail.com wrote: > > "And we should all remember the illegal fly swatter that Reg tried to > smuggle into OZ as well! > Dave" > > On reflection, that was possibly a case of mis-packaging. How about > buying a badminton set, removing the rackets, replacing them with > two of those heinous fly shatters, and shipping them to Reg that > way? I'm pretty sure he doesn't really need them all that badly - > now its a matter of proving it can be done. > > Bruce Younger > > There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have > hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything > else thereafter. > E. Hemingway > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Aug 17 10:09:21 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Little Lisa and Jim & Dolly In-Reply-To: <0A44624A-3F9B-4522-B055-6EB52368D32B@me.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110816205158.01f9a250@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> <154D6FA3AEC943A3A3589EA365D8DA14@RoysterPC> <51557336d365d3669ccbf7c394c5c269.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> <0A44624A-3F9B-4522-B055-6EB52368D32B@me.com> Message-ID: Dave, I think we have a real opportunity here. Since Tom & Chris have gotten all grown up, poor Jim and Dolly must be experiencing "empty nest syndrome." And since it looks like grandchildren are still a ways off, they NEED to take Little Lisa home with them to England. heh-heh-heh (evil laugh) See ya, Arnie On Wed, August 17, 2011 12:49 pm, Dave Rotigel wrote: > My understanding is that Little Lisa plans to be at Portland as well. > Remember what BOTH of them did to her last time she was at Portland! I > just hope that they have matured a bit since that night! > Dave From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Aug 17 12:13:01 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 21:13:01 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Good or Bad Royster ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110817205711.00e082f8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 17/08/2011, you wrote: >Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:02:16 -0400 >From: "Mike Royster" >Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10 > >OUCH! That hurts coming from you Jerry! According to the calendar I was >supposed to be the good Royster at Portland, Steve was the good Royster at >Coolspring! >MR >-----Original Message----- >From: Jerry Evans >Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:54 PM >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 89, Issue 10 > >At 06:00 PM 16/08/2011, you wrote: > >Message: 15 > >Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:30:55 -0400 > >From: Steve Royster > >Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland show > >To: The SEL email discussion list > >Message-ID: > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > >I forgot, Which one of us is the good Royster?? Steve > > >Sometimes it's you Steve - Sometimes it's Him !!! (Mostly it's you !!!) >Keep well and enjoy the show >Jerry Hi Mike/Steve, Darn, now I'm also confused. Which one of you is the "Good Royster". I did not realise that you "took turns". I used to have a cat (or maybe it was my ex wife - I can't quite remember right now) whose mood changed with the phases of the moon - is that how you guys do things ?????? I seem to remember that my ex wife's mood changed once a month and not necessarily with the moon phases so it must have been the cat !! Jerry. P.S. You are both great guys - I love you both !! P.P.S. There !! Am I forgiven now??? From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Aug 17 15:51:38 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:51:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Good or Bad Royster ? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20110817205711.00e082f8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110817205711.00e082f8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: <26003B9C-8503-4876-8AEB-D2E279BAC855@ncable.com.au> > P.S. You are both great guys : well Jerry I would really think you best re-consider that. You can tell in their giggling that there is some real sinister guys hidden inside the great Southern exterior! Russ > > > Jerry. > P.S. You are both great guys - I love you both !! > P.P.S. There !! Am I forgiven now??? > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From steve_royster at hotmail.com Wed Aug 17 17:46:33 2011 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:46:33 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Good or Bad Royster ? In-Reply-To: <26003B9C-8503-4876-8AEB-D2E279BAC855@ncable.com.au> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110817205711.00e082f8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>, <26003B9C-8503-4876-8AEB-D2E279BAC855@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Look out Russell, you are from the DEEP SOUTH, No telling what's hiding under that real southern exterior of yours! Steve > From: russell at ncable.com.au > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:51:38 +1000 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Good or Bad Royster ? > > > P.S. You are both great guys : well Jerry I would really think you best re-consider that. You can tell in their giggling that there is some real sinister guys hidden inside the great Southern exterior! > Russ > > > > > > > > > Jerry. > > P.S. You are both great guys - I love you both !! > > P.P.S. There !! Am I forgiven now??? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Aug 17 19:10:40 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:10:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" In-Reply-To: <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> Message-ID: <6448E03531E04DAAB8900A0A4B936C78@RoysterPC> OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Michael Tucker Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:07 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] "Is there a Back 40Junction gathering" On Aug 16, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Now if we can just get Mike to bring ALL of his Lorenz & Benz engines... So how high would the stack of folded tarps be if that happened? ______________________ Michael Tucker oldironnut at windstream.net Versailles, Kentucky, USA ______________________ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Aug 17 19:24:01 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:24:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Good or Bad Royster ? In-Reply-To: <26003B9C-8503-4876-8AEB-D2E279BAC855@ncable.com.au> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110817205711.00e082f8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> <26003B9C-8503-4876-8AEB-D2E279BAC855@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <3D05BD303CEF4F8F8102032EBB5A9B11@RoysterPC> Why of course you are forgiven, it's easy to forgive when you are the good Royster!!!!! MR -----Original Message----- From: Russell Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 6:51 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Good or Bad Royster ? > P.S. You are both great guys : well Jerry I would really think you best > re-consider that. You can tell in their giggling that there is some real > sinister guys hidden inside the great Southern exterior! Russ > > > Jerry. > P.S. You are both great guys - I love you both !! > P.P.S. There !! Am I forgiven now??? > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Thu Aug 18 09:37:11 2011 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (=?utf-8?B?c2x1Z2dvNTRAaG90bWFpbC5jb20=?=) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:37:11 -0600 Subject: [SEL] =?utf-8?q?Reg=27s_fly_swatter/badminton_game?= Message-ID: "Bruce, Are you aware of the time someone snailed 3 boxes of 12ga ? shotgun shells to a List member in OZ? Dave" Nope. What was the fallout from that? Bruce Younger There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter. E. Hemingway From curt at rustyiron.com Thu Aug 18 11:38:39 2011 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 12:38:39 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Reg's fly swatter/badminton game In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The engine started! Those are SO kewl. Curt H > > "Bruce, Are you aware of the time someone snailed 3 boxes of 12ga ?? > shotgun shells to a List member in OZ? > Dave" > > Nope. What was the fallout from that? > > Bruce Younger > > There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted > armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else > thereafter. > E. Hemingway > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Aug 18 13:10:27 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 22:10:27 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Good or Bad Royster ?2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110818220913.02955e50@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 18/08/2011, you wrote: >Message: 9 >Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:24:01 -0400 >From: "Mike Royster" > >Why of course you are forgiven, it's easy to forgive when you are the good >Royster!!!!! > >MR Whew !!!! Jerry From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Aug 18 16:19:36 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:19:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] One Portland Super 8 Room Available Message-ID: <43254b6d6f5694c4cd4a03f3633e34b7.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Folks, We have one extra room reserved at the Portland Super 8. The reservation is for Monday night through Saturday night. The room has two queen size beds. If you want to take the room, let me know. See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero fero_ah at city-net.com From rdhaskell at juno.com Fri Aug 19 10:11:36 2011 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 10:11:36 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Blackstone question Message-ID: <20110819.101235.946.916643@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> Hi all. I am finally starting work on my 6 hp JSI engine. I will be making new studs and nuts, what are the threads? Some seem to be SAE, and some are not. Also how does the governor shaft come out of the housing? It has the spiral gear on one end and the flange that holds the weights on the other, and there is no obvious way to remove one. Thanks Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 3000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e4e998e459b7659dbst02vuc From steve_royster at hotmail.com Fri Aug 19 11:14:38 2011 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:14:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] One Portland Super 8 Room Available In-Reply-To: <43254b6d6f5694c4cd4a03f3633e34b7.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <43254b6d6f5694c4cd4a03f3633e34b7.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: Better save it for the Evil Royster and Little Lisa or maybe Nitro and Bambi! Steve > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:19:36 -0400 > From: fero_ah at city-net.com > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] One Portland Super 8 Room Available > > Folks, > > We have one extra room reserved at the Portland Super 8. > The reservation is for Monday night through Saturday night. > The room has two queen size beds. > > If you want to take the room, let me know. > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bigtime64 at hotmail.com Sat Aug 20 06:03:48 2011 From: bigtime64 at hotmail.com (Ed Herreid) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 13:03:48 +0000 Subject: [SEL] One Portland Super 8 Room Available In-Reply-To: <43254b6d6f5694c4cd4a03f3633e34b7.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <43254b6d6f5694c4cd4a03f3633e34b7.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: Arnie, Please contact me about the room. I sent info off list yesterday morning. Ed Herreid > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:19:36 -0400 > From: fero_ah at city-net.com > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] One Portland Super 8 Room Available > > Folks, > > We have one extra room reserved at the Portland Super 8. > The reservation is for Monday night through Saturday night. > The room has two queen size beds. > > If you want to take the room, let me know. > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Sat Aug 20 17:23:09 2011 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 10:23:09 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Good or Bad Royster ? In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.2.20110817205711.00e082f8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>, <26003B9C-8503-4876-8AEB-D2E279BAC855@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: mmmm maybe you have a good point there On 18/08/2011, at 10:46 AM, Steve Royster wrote: > > Look out Russell, you are from the DEEP SOUTH, No telling what's hiding under that real southern exterior of yours! Steve > > >> From: russell at ncable.com.au >> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:51:38 +1000 >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Good or Bad Royster ? >> >>> P.S. You are both great guys : well Jerry I would really think you best re-consider that. You can tell in their giggling that there is some real sinister guys hidden inside the great Southern exterior! >> Russ >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> Jerry. >>> P.S. You are both great guys - I love you both !! >>> P.P.S. There !! Am I forgiven now??? >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Sat Aug 20 17:43:34 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 10:43:34 +1000 Subject: [SEL] European Dates Message-ID: Does anyone have the dates for the 2012 Nuenen and 1000 Engine Rallies? Thanks, Patrick Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From h.terpstra at wxs.nl Sat Aug 20 23:44:41 2011 From: h.terpstra at wxs.nl (Harry Terpstra) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 08:44:41 +0200 Subject: [SEL] European Dates References: Message-ID: <4719C5E865434152B09DACEFEC9EE849@packard971eb80> Patrick Nuenen 2012 is May 27-28 (Sunday-Monday) Actually the Saturday is a very good day to be there too. I'm not sure about the 1000 engine rally. Ar you planning to be there? Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Livingstone" To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine" Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:43 AM Subject: [SEL] European Dates > Does anyone have the dates for the 2012 Nuenen and 1000 Engine Rallies? > Thanks, > Patrick > > Patrick M Livingstone > 0418 692013 > Earlwood NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Sun Aug 21 00:53:05 2011 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 08:53:05 +0100 Subject: [SEL] European Dates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <780D0E4366354448A2EC4346E763131C@BTDAVEPC> Hi Patrick, The date for Nuenen is a bit early next year as Easter a bit Early. The date for Nuenen is Sun 27th & Mon 28th of May and the 1000 Engine is June the 23rd and 24th. Dave Croft http://oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv -------------------------------------------------- > Does anyone have the dates for the 2012 Nuenen and 1000 Engine Rallies? > Thanks, > Patrick > Patrick M Livingstone > 0418 692013 > Earlwood NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Sun Aug 21 02:32:03 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 19:32:03 +1000 Subject: [SEL] European Dates In-Reply-To: <4719C5E865434152B09DACEFEC9EE849@packard971eb80> Message-ID: Thanks for the dates. We are looking at possible side trips if we decide to take Samuel to see his grandparents next year. We also have to avoid the Olympics in London which will make the flights more expensive. Patrick On 21/8/11 4:44 PM, "Harry Terpstra" wrote: > Patrick Nuenen 2012 is May 27-28 (Sunday-Monday) Actually the Saturday is a > very good day to be there too. > I'm not sure about the 1000 engine rally. > Ar you planning to be there? > > Harry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick Livingstone" > To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine" > > Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:43 AM > Subject: [SEL] European Dates > > >> Does anyone have the dates for the 2012 Nuenen and 1000 Engine Rallies? >> Thanks, >> Patrick >> >> Patrick M Livingstone >> 0418 692013 >> Earlwood NSW >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Sun Aug 21 02:32:21 2011 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 19:32:21 +1000 Subject: [SEL] European Dates In-Reply-To: <780D0E4366354448A2EC4346E763131C@BTDAVEPC> Message-ID: Thanks Dave. Patrick On 21/8/11 5:53 PM, "Dave Croft" wrote: > Hi Patrick, The date for Nuenen is a bit early next year as Easter a bit > Early. > The date for Nuenen is Sun 27th & Mon 28th of May and the 1000 Engine > is June the 23rd and 24th. > > Dave Croft > http://oldengine.org/members/croft/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > > > -------------------------------------------------- >> Does anyone have the dates for the 2012 Nuenen and 1000 Engine Rallies? >> Thanks, >> Patrick >> Patrick M Livingstone >> 0418 692013 >> Earlwood NSW >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone 0418 692013 Earlwood NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Aug 21 18:59:30 2011 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 21:59:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland --- SOON In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <33CD4EDC726641BD87EAAA3C9A88C252@ckcsdb40cdd57a> Just curious, will most of the same gang be at Portland in a few days? The Hollands, Roysters, Arnie, Dave, Keith, etc.?? Me and Steve will be there on Wed. morning around 9:00 am. Hopefully we can park the trailer in the same location as prior years. See everyone soon!! Tommy Turner PS: Don't let the Royster Boys scout out all the deals in the sales area! From tchristoff at earthlink.net Sun Aug 21 19:22:44 2011 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 21:22:44 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [SEL] Portland --- SOON Message-ID: <31311437.1313979764997.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Any suggestions on how to do that Tommy? Tim Christoff -----Original Message----- >From: Judge Tommy Turner >Sent: Aug 21, 2011 8:59 PM >To: 'The SEL email discussion list' >Subject: [SEL] Portland --- SOON >Tommy Turner > >PS: Don't let the Royster Boys scout out all the deals in the sales area! > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Aug 21 19:37:40 2011 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 22:37:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland --- SOON In-Reply-To: <33CD4EDC726641BD87EAAA3C9A88C252@ckcsdb40cdd57a> References: <33CD4EDC726641BD87EAAA3C9A88C252@ckcsdb40cdd57a> Message-ID: <71AAB038854E45C4B1D55A0EEFD27077@RoysterPC> Judge: Me, Steve and Miles will be rolling in on Wed about noon. Not to worry, we have pre=bought and will be picking up all the goodies at our leisure. Feel free to wander the sale area and see all those SOLD signs! MR -----Original Message----- From: Judge Tommy Turner Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:59 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] Portland --- SOON Just curious, will most of the same gang be at Portland in a few days? The Hollands, Roysters, Arnie, Dave, Keith, etc.?? Me and Steve will be there on Wed. morning around 9:00 am. Hopefully we can park the trailer in the same location as prior years. See everyone soon!! Tommy Turner PS: Don't let the Royster Boys scout out all the deals in the sales area! _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Aug 21 19:40:12 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 22:40:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland --- SOON In-Reply-To: <33CD4EDC726641BD87EAAA3C9A88C252@ckcsdb40cdd57a> References: <33CD4EDC726641BD87EAAA3C9A88C252@ckcsdb40cdd57a> Message-ID: <7830ca813f87f66da6bdfbdc23f3488a.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Yep, plus some surprises... On Sun, August 21, 2011 9:59 pm, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > > Just curious, will most of the same gang be at Portland in a few days? > The > Hollands, Roysters, Arnie, Dave, Keith, etc.?? Me and Steve will be there > on Wed. morning around 9:00 am. Hopefully we can park the trailer in the > same location as prior years. See everyone soon!! > > Tommy Turner > > PS: Don't let the Royster Boys scout out all the deals in the sales area! > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Aug 21 20:54:28 2011 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 23:54:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland --- SOON In-Reply-To: <71AAB038854E45C4B1D55A0EEFD27077@RoysterPC> References: <33CD4EDC726641BD87EAAA3C9A88C252@ckcsdb40cdd57a> <71AAB038854E45C4B1D55A0EEFD27077@RoysterPC> Message-ID: Darn, we'll all be sucking hind t-- again! TT Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2011, at 10:37 PM, "Mike Royster" wrote: > Judge: > > Me, Steve and Miles will be rolling in on Wed about noon. Not to worry, > we have pre=bought and will be picking up all the goodies at our leisure. > Feel free to wander the sale area and see all those SOLD signs! > > MR > > From cgandree at mchsi.com Mon Aug 22 05:26:07 2011 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 07:26:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] Baraboo Show Message-ID: <1882757177.10971841314015967125.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Would like to thank all my American and International Friends for making the Baraboo Show top notch! Hopefully you all had as good a time as Becky and I did and looking forward to it again next year. Becky said it had been many years since she had a large group of friends sing happy birthday to her and that ment something very special to her. THANK YOU FOR MAKING HER DAY! Regretfully due to my work schedule can not attend Portland this year. Have a safe trip and good time. Best Regards. Curt & Becky From George_Best at adp.com Tue Aug 23 09:53:51 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:53:51 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - Custom headers leaking In-Reply-To: <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Since the list gets quiet during the Portland show I thought I'd post something for those stuck at home like myself;-) This isn't totally off topic as it does deal with an engine, but just a different type of engine than most of you deal with. My 64 Falcon has a custom set of Dawson Racing headers and I recently noticed some bad leaks at the slip joints for #3 and #4 cylinders on the passenger side. In the past I've had other vehicles with headers, but they were always one piece headers made at a header factory. This is the first time I've had something that was truly custom fabricated just for my car and engine combo. Also the first time I've had headers that needed slip joints to be installed. FYI.... These headers were already on the car when I bought it and unfortunately Tom Dawson died in 2009 so I believe Dawson Racing Headers died at the same time. After reading on the internet it seems that some people have good luck sealing the slip joints with high copper content RTV silicone. Which is what I'm planning on trying. First thing I discovered last night is I couldn't get a socket on any of the header flange bolts, and could only get a box end wrench on one of the bolts. Luckily and open end wrench was sufficient to undo the others although movement was very limited. I'll probably check a tool store and see if a thin-wall socket will work. Also considered modifying a box-end wrench by heating it up and bending it some, plus grinding off excess metal around the box-end. Maybe a modified wrench is what I need. I did get the #3 slip joint tube removed easy enough, but the #4 tube is still in place as I need to also remove the valve cover so the slip tube can slip up past the exhaust port. The cast valve covers are larger than most and the extra overhang is just enough to keep the #4 slip tube from sliding up far enough to separate from the rest of the header pipe. So.... have any of you experience with slip joint connections on header pipes? George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From George_Best at adp.com Tue Aug 23 10:17:18 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:17:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall sockets, I'm wondering about making my own. Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down on my lathe? Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From jdohagan at comcast.net Tue Aug 23 10:25:32 2011 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (James OHAGAN) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:25:32 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <000301cc61b9$b18d4010$14a7c030$@net> George, Call me. Jimmy -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:17 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall sockets, I'm wondering about making my own. Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down on my lathe? Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jdohagan at comcast.net Tue Aug 23 10:26:10 2011 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (James OHAGAN) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:26:10 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <000401cc61b9$c68e7290$53ab57b0$@net> Oops! 415 892 0236 -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:17 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall sockets, I'm wondering about making my own. Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down on my lathe? Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bigtime64 at hotmail.com Tue Aug 23 10:43:12 2011 From: bigtime64 at hotmail.com (Ed Herreid) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:43:12 +0000 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: , , <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205>, , <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: A cheap socket is going to be weak to start with. Thinning it will make it weaker. If it is a low enough torque you can get away with it. I have done it before but not on a lathe. A socket is going to be pretty hard tool steel. I have done it on a grinder. Put it on an extension and spin it against a grinder or better yet a sanding belt. Remove as little as possible and then polish it as good as you can by hand to reduce places for cracks to start. Go slow and dont overheat it. If it starts turning straw or blue color you have lost the heat treat and it will be weaker yet. If nothing else fits it is worth a shot. Ed Herreid Leaving for Portland later today > From: George_Best at adp.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:17:18 -0500 > Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket > > After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall sockets, I'm wondering about making my own. > > Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down on my lathe? > > Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Tue Aug 23 11:15:44 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:15:44 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: References: , , <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205>, , <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB57251@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Jimmy also recommended that using a grinder is a quick and simple way to make a thin wall socket. Also recommended using a higher quality socket. However, he had a better solution that eliminates the problem. Replace the bolts with socket head cap screws! George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Ed Herreid Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:43 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket A cheap socket is going to be weak to start with. Thinning it will make it weaker. If it is a low enough torque you can get away with it. I have done it before but not on a lathe. A socket is going to be pretty hard tool steel. I have done it on a grinder. Put it on an extension and spin it against a grinder or better yet a sanding belt. Remove as little as possible and then polish it as good as you can by hand to reduce places for cracks to start. Go slow and dont overheat it. If it starts turning straw or blue color you have lost the heat treat and it will be weaker yet. If nothing else fits it is worth a shot. Ed Herreid Leaving for Portland later today This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From swilliams268 at frontier.com Tue Aug 23 11:22:02 2011 From: swilliams268 at frontier.com (Steve W.) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:22:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <4E53EFCA.1070804@frontier.com> Best, George wrote: > After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall > sockets, I'm wondering about making my own. > > Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down > on my lathe? > > Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? > Both Snap-On and SK have thin wall sockets for headers. -- Steve W. From swilliams268 at frontier.com Tue Aug 23 11:21:04 2011 From: swilliams268 at frontier.com (Steve W.) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:21:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - Custom headers leaking In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <4E53EF90.6070801@frontier.com> Best, George wrote: > Since the list gets quiet during the Portland show I thought I'd post > something for those stuck at home like myself;-) > > This isn't totally off topic as it does deal with an engine, but just > a different type of engine than most of you deal with. > > My 64 Falcon has a custom set of Dawson Racing headers and I recently > noticed some bad leaks at the slip joints for #3 and #4 cylinders on > the passenger side. > > In the past I've had other vehicles with headers, but they were > always one piece headers made at a header factory. This is the first > time I've had something that was truly custom fabricated just for my > car and engine combo. Also the first time I've had headers that > needed slip joints to be installed. > > FYI.... These headers were already on the car when I bought it and > unfortunately Tom Dawson died in 2009 so I believe Dawson Racing > Headers died at the same time. > > After reading on the internet it seems that some people have good > luck sealing the slip joints with high copper content RTV silicone. > Which is what I'm planning on trying. > > First thing I discovered last night is I couldn't get a socket on any > of the header flange bolts, and could only get a box end wrench on > one of the bolts. Luckily and open end wrench was sufficient to undo > the others although movement was very limited. I'll probably check a > tool store and see if a thin-wall socket will work. Also considered > modifying a box-end wrench by heating it up and bending it some, plus > grinding off excess metal around the box-end. Maybe a modified > wrench is what I need. > > I did get the #3 slip joint tube removed easy enough, but the #4 tube > is still in place as I need to also remove the valve cover so the > slip tube can slip up past the exhaust port. The cast valve covers > are larger than most and the extra overhang is just enough to keep > the #4 slip tube from sliding up far enough to separate from the rest > of the header pipe. > > So.... have any of you experience with slip joint connections on > header pipes? > > George > The slip joint style can be a PIA. However I have used a couple items in the past to seal them. One being a high temp silicone like you are talking about. The other was a dedicated high silica exhaust pipe sealant. You can buy both at most auto parts places. As for the thin wall socket, S&K, and Snap-on both sell header sockets for this use OR you can get special header bolts that have a smaller head with an external torx or spline drive. Those allow you to tighten them down good and use a smaller socket. -- Steve W. From gop4evr at lsol.net Tue Aug 23 11:31:34 2011 From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:31:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: References: , , <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205>, , <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <4E3321BA-122D-4F2F-94CE-A8F9A2B5D106@lsol.net> A ceramic or CBN toolbit will make a nice cut in a lathe. We turn hardened steels regularly at work. As stated before, wall strength will suffer . . . . Nels On Aug 23, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Ed Herreid wrote: > >> From: George_Best at adp.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:17:18 -0500 >> Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket >> >> After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall sockets, I'm wondering about making my own. >> >> Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down on my lathe? >> >> Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? From bill at antique-engines.com Tue Aug 23 11:37:43 2011 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:37:43 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB57251@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: , , <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205>, , <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>, <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB57251@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <3f2a9539122246dbff7b9a268ceeb5a8.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> They make special header bolts with smaller 8 point heads than standard....the heads are also just a bit taller. They grip very well. Any other header issues - http://theamcforum.com/forum join and check out the engine sections. (it's a small forum I run) > Jimmy also recommended that using a grinder is a quick and simple way to > make a thin wall socket. > Also recommended using a higher quality socket. > > However, he had a better solution that eliminates the problem. > > Replace the bolts with socket head cap screws! > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Ed Herreid > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:43 AM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket > > > A cheap socket is going to be weak to start with. Thinning it will make > it weaker. If it is a low enough torque you can get away with it. > > I have done it before but not on a lathe. A socket is going to be pretty > hard tool steel. I have done it on a grinder. Put it on an extension and > spin it against a grinder or better yet a sanding belt. Remove as little > as possible and then polish it as good as you can by hand to reduce places > for cracks to start. Go slow and dont overheat it. If it starts turning > straw or blue color you have lost the heat treat and it will be weaker > yet. If nothing else fits it is worth a shot. > > Ed Herreid > Leaving for Portland later today > > > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments > from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rob at rustyiron.com Tue Aug 23 15:42:51 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 15:42:51 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <84B06553-8A91-4F50-9CF5-B06F073ED808@rustyiron.com> On Aug 23, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Best, George wrote: > After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall sockets, I'm wondering about making my own. > > Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down on my lathe? > > Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? Hi, George. You can machine sockets using a carbide tool and lots of cutting oil. Keep it cool. Rob From langer5 at xplornet.ca Tue Aug 23 19:04:52 2011 From: langer5 at xplornet.ca (langer5 xplornet.ca) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:04:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <84B06553-8A91-4F50-9CF5-B06F073ED808@rustyiron.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <84B06553-8A91-4F50-9CF5-B06F073ED808@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > On Aug 23, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Best, George wrote: > > > After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall sockets, > I'm wondering about making my own. > > > > Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down on my > lathe? > > > > Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? > > > Hi, George. > You can machine sockets using a carbide tool and lots of cutting oil. Keep > it cool. > > Rob > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > George - the best way to go is with socket head capscrews as previously mentioned or twelve point hex head capscrews which have a lot smaller head than 6 point capscrews. If the capscrews are 3/8" the socket for them in 12 point is 3/8 if memory serves me correctly. Use a good grade of socket. Larry. From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Aug 24 03:19:47 2011 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:19:47 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Rusty iron Rally Message-ID: <7C905BD8CE8F4ADB8AD8B8670A2DFA76@PeterPC> Who is going to the Rusty Iron Rally? Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Australia From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 24 06:07:53 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:07:53 +0100 Subject: [SEL] OT - Custom headers leaking In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: On 23 August 2011 17:53, Best, George wrote: > Since the list gets quiet during the Portland show I thought I'd post something for those stuck at home like myself;-) > > This isn't totally off topic as it does deal with an engine, but just a different type of engine than most of you deal with. > > My 64 Falcon has a custom set of Dawson Racing headers and I recently noticed some bad leaks at the slip joints for #3 and #4 cylinders on the passenger side. George: The big engines like Scania and Volvo use 'piston ring' type rings to seal the header joints. The in-line 6's and the V8's all use those joints to allow for expansion/contraction without stressing the face joints at the heads. The engines were/are pretty long and there was one centre piece and two outside pieces. Diameter was about 1.75" or so. As far as you own unit goes, these run pretty hot at full power, so I'd guess you need something that stays flexible at very high temperatures, I don't know if even silicon joiner paste will be that good. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Wed Aug 24 06:31:56 2011 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:31:56 +0800 Subject: [SEL] OT - Custom headers leaking In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205><12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <826843A76B37493382505D836B06A223@KerryPC> George you can buy a new one http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/Satellite?c=DFYPage&cid=1248884753507&pagename=FOA%2Fcontroller&site=FOA Kerry > Since the list gets quiet during the Portland show I thought I'd post > something for those stuck at home like myself;-) > > This isn't totally off topic as it does deal with an engine, but just a > different type of engine than most of you deal with. > > My 64 Falcon has a custom set of Dawson Racing headers and I recently > noticed some bad leaks at the slip joints for #3 and #4 cylinders on the > passenger side. > > In the past I've had other vehicles with headers, but they were always one > piece headers made at a header factory. This is the first time I've had > something that was truly custom fabricated just for my car and engine > combo. Also the first time I've had headers that needed slip joints to be > installed. > > FYI.... These headers were already on the car when I bought it and > unfortunately Tom Dawson died in 2009 so I believe Dawson Racing Headers > died at the same time. > > After reading on the internet it seems that some people have good luck > sealing the slip joints with high copper content RTV silicone. Which is > what I'm planning on trying. > > First thing I discovered last night is I couldn't get a socket on any of > the header flange bolts, and could only get a box end wrench on one of the > bolts. Luckily and open end wrench was sufficient to undo the others > although movement was very limited. I'll probably check a tool store and > see if a thin-wall socket will work. Also considered modifying a box-end > wrench by heating it up and bending it some, plus grinding off excess > metal around the box-end. Maybe a modified wrench is what I need. > > I did get the #3 slip joint tube removed easy enough, but the #4 tube is > still in place as I need to also remove the valve cover so the slip tube > can slip up past the exhaust port. The cast valve covers are larger than > most and the extra overhang is just enough to keep the #4 slip tube from > sliding up far enough to separate from the rest of the header pipe. > > So.... have any of you experience with slip joint connections on header > pipes? > > George From jlb94 at juno.com Wed Aug 24 07:31:32 2011 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:31:32 GMT Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket Message-ID: <20110824.103132.13704.1@webmail57.vgs.untd.com> Hi George, I don't have a lathe but I've ground them down with a 4?" grinder before. Keep it cool !!! Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Keep Pennsylvania Beautiful - (_0_) Ban large pumpkin colored "buckle-up" signs. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "langer5 xplornet.ca" To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:04:52 -0400 On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > On Aug 23, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Best, George wrote: > > > After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall sockets, > I'm wondering about making my own. > > > > Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down on my > lathe? > > > > Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? > > > Hi, George. > You can machine sockets using a carbide tool and lots of cutting oil. Keep > it cool. > > Rob > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > George - the best way to go is with socket head capscrews as previously mentioned or twelve point hex head capscrews which have a lot smaller head than 6 point capscrews. If the capscrews are 3/8" the socket for them in 12 point is 3/8 if memory serves me correctly. Use a good grade of socket. Larry. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 From George_Best at adp.com Wed Aug 24 07:34:53 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:34:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <84B06553-8A91-4F50-9CF5-B06F073ED808@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDC295DB@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Decided to give up on the thin wall socket, unless I need to remove other header bolts in the future. Will replace the bolts I took out with socket head ones. George Ps. Suppose if I replace some with socket head, I should go ahead and replace all of them. Keeps it looking nicer plus in the future I'd curse the idiot that used different types of fasteners. ;-) -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of langer5 xplornet.ca Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:05 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > On Aug 23, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Best, George wrote: > > > After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall sockets, > I'm wondering about making my own. > > > > Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down on my > lathe? > > > > Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? > > > Hi, George. > You can machine sockets using a carbide tool and lots of cutting oil. Keep > it cool. > > Rob > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > George - the best way to go is with socket head capscrews as previously mentioned or twelve point hex head capscrews which have a lot smaller head than 6 point capscrews. If the capscrews are 3/8" the socket for them in 12 point is 3/8 if memory serves me correctly. Use a good grade of socket. Larry. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. 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From George_Best at adp.com Wed Aug 24 07:49:06 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:49:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - Custom headers leaking In-Reply-To: <826843A76B37493382505D836B06A223@KerryPC> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205><12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <826843A76B37493382505D836B06A223@KerryPC> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDC296C8@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Kerry, I always thought that Australia has some pretty nice vehicles, not shared with the rest of the world. The new Falcon looks pretty nice although my old 64 is probably more fun ;-) George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:32 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - Custom headers leaking George you can buy a new one http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/Satellite?c=DFYPage&cid=1248884753507&pagename=FOA%2Fcontroller&site=FOA Kerry > Since the list gets quiet during the Portland show I thought I'd post > something for those stuck at home like myself;-) > > This isn't totally off topic as it does deal with an engine, but just a > different type of engine than most of you deal with. > > My 64 Falcon has a custom set of Dawson Racing headers and I recently > noticed some bad leaks at the slip joints for #3 and #4 cylinders on the > passenger side. > > In the past I've had other vehicles with headers, but they were always one > piece headers made at a header factory. This is the first time I've had > something that was truly custom fabricated just for my car and engine > combo. Also the first time I've had headers that needed slip joints to be > installed. > > FYI.... These headers were already on the car when I bought it and > unfortunately Tom Dawson died in 2009 so I believe Dawson Racing Headers > died at the same time. > > After reading on the internet it seems that some people have good luck > sealing the slip joints with high copper content RTV silicone. Which is > what I'm planning on trying. > > First thing I discovered last night is I couldn't get a socket on any of > the header flange bolts, and could only get a box end wrench on one of the > bolts. Luckily and open end wrench was sufficient to undo the others > although movement was very limited. I'll probably check a tool store and > see if a thin-wall socket will work. Also considered modifying a box-end > wrench by heating it up and bending it some, plus grinding off excess > metal around the box-end. Maybe a modified wrench is what I need. > > I did get the #3 slip joint tube removed easy enough, but the #4 tube is > still in place as I need to also remove the valve cover so the slip tube > can slip up past the exhaust port. The cast valve covers are larger than > most and the extra overhang is just enough to keep the #4 slip tube from > sliding up far enough to separate from the rest of the header pipe. > > So.... have any of you experience with slip joint connections on header > pipes? > > George _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From kosh at ncweb.com Wed Aug 24 14:38:28 2011 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:38:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Saturday + Sunday Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20110824173627.0ca83ac0@ncweb.com> We are thinking about heading to Portland for the weekend. The question is, will there still be anyone / anything there Sat + Sun? Dave Merchant kosh at ncweb.com kosh at nesys.com dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Aug 24 19:51:18 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Saturday + Sunday In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20110824173627.0ca83ac0@ncweb.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20110824173627.0ca83ac0@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <6a3b76b8655875833325416a490167da.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Dave, Things are going full bore now. By Saturday a lot of folks have loaded up and left. We load up Sunday morning and it's pretty open then. See ya, Arnie On Wed, August 24, 2011 5:38 pm, Dave Merchant wrote: > We are thinking about heading to Portland for the weekend. > > The question is, will there still be anyone / anything there Sat + Sun? > > > Dave Merchant > kosh at ncweb.com > kosh at nesys.com > dmerchant at layerzero.com > > http://www.nesys.com > http://www.nesys.org > YouTube: SteamCrane > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bakermonitor1932 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 24 20:30:49 2011 From: bakermonitor1932 at hotmail.com (Devin Holland) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 23:30:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Custom headers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would suggest going by harbor freight and getting a impact socket (thicker and its a 6point so its stronger) and useing a lathe on a slow speed with a grinder so that u can get a nice even grind. Devin Holland Wish i was a in Portland but sadly im in my dorm is their a collector on here near uah? > First thing I discovered last night is I couldn't get a socket on any of the header flange bolts, and could only get a box end wrench on one of the bolts. Luckily and open end wrench was sufficient to undo the others although movement was very limited. I'll probably check a tool store and see if a thin-wall socket will work. Also considered modifying a box-end wrench by heating it up and bending it some, plus grinding off excess metal around the box-end. Maybe a modified wrench is what I need. From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Aug 25 00:58:47 2011 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:58:47 +1000 Subject: [SEL] OT - Custom headers leaking In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDC296C8@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205><12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><826843A76B37493382505D836B06A223@KerryPC> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDC296C8@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: George Forget about the ugly blue oval This is the make you want, GM http://www.holden.com.au/latestoffers/commodore-offers/bonus-sunroof-on-ss,-ssv,-calais-andcalaisv-sedans?region=National Peter Kerry, I always thought that Australia has some pretty nice vehicles, not shared with the rest of the world. The new Falcon looks pretty nice although my old 64 is probably more fun ;-) George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:32 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - Custom headers leaking George you can buy a new one http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/Satellite?c=DFYPage&cid=1248884753507&pagename=FOA%2Fcontroller&site=FOA Kerry > Since the list gets quiet during the Portland show I thought I'd post > something for those stuck at home like myself;-) > > This isn't totally off topic as it does deal with an engine, but just a > different type of engine than most of you deal with. > > My 64 Falcon has a custom set of Dawson Racing headers and I recently > noticed some bad leaks at the slip joints for #3 and #4 cylinders on the > passenger side. > > In the past I've had other vehicles with headers, but they were always one > piece headers made at a header factory. This is the first time I've had > something that was truly custom fabricated just for my car and engine > combo. Also the first time I've had headers that needed slip joints to be > installed. > > FYI.... These headers were already on the car when I bought it and > unfortunately Tom Dawson died in 2009 so I believe Dawson Racing Headers > died at the same time. > > After reading on the internet it seems that some people have good luck > sealing the slip joints with high copper content RTV silicone. Which is > what I'm planning on trying. > > First thing I discovered last night is I couldn't get a socket on any of > the header flange bolts, and could only get a box end wrench on one of the > bolts. Luckily and open end wrench was sufficient to undo the others > although movement was very limited. I'll probably check a tool store and > see if a thin-wall socket will work. Also considered modifying a box-end > wrench by heating it up and bending it some, plus grinding off excess > metal around the box-end. Maybe a modified wrench is what I need. > > I did get the #3 slip joint tube removed easy enough, but the #4 tube is > still in place as I need to also remove the valve cover so the slip tube > can slip up past the exhaust port. The cast valve covers are larger than > most and the extra overhang is just enough to keep the #4 slip tube from > sliding up far enough to separate from the rest of the header pipe. > > So.... have any of you experience with slip joint connections on header > pipes? > > George _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. 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Yes, going from the correct email :-) Was just trying to post an update on the Hall 5 for those who had supported the venture:- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "A number of people on the lists have supported this project over the last couple of years. Has taken some time but the building is now weatherproof and we have finally taken the sheets off the engines. There is a news item on the museum website at http://www.internalfire.com/news.php?ssid=1464 All the large engines have now run although the Ruston 6VE and Allen S47 have plenty of pipework left to do. Everything should be complete by the End of Season Crankup in October. Thanks again to everybody who has supported the build, just over ?28k was raised! 100% donations. Paul, Hazel and the Trustees -- Internal Fire Museum of Power Castell Pridd, Tanygroes, Ceredigion, Wales, UK SA43 2JS http://www.internalfire.com Tel: 01239 811212 MLA Accredited Museum Registered Charity number 1134971 A member of the Association of Independent Museums." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you it worth posting on ATIS as well then it would be appreciated. Have not posted about progress much due to flack from Wieser etc, got enough to deal with! Cheers Paul -- Internal Fire Museum of Power Castell Pridd, Tanygroes, Ceredigion, Wales, UK SA43 2JS http://www.internalfire.com Tel: 01239 811212 MLA Accredited Museum Registered Charity number 1134971 A member of the Association of Independent Museums. From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Aug 25 06:35:18 2011 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 06:35:18 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDC295DB@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <84B06553-8A91-4F50-9CF5-B06F073ED808@rustyiron.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDC295DB@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <0D76D3D1-5F3A-4701-AF0D-AA1B51F9EA3B@rustyiron.com> On Aug 24, 2011, at 7:34 AM, Best, George wrote: > > Ps. Suppose if I replace some with socket head, I should go ahead and replace all of them. > Keeps it looking nicer plus in the future I'd curse the idiot that used different types of fasteners. ;-) If you're going through all the trouble of replacing them, George, it might be a good idea to consider stainless with a Torx head. Rob From George_Best at adp.com Thu Aug 25 07:35:45 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:35:45 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - Custom headers leaking In-Reply-To: References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205><12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><826843A76B37493382505D836B06A223@KerryPC> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDC296C8@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDCDFAE4@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Sorry, but for fun or racing I'm 100% FORD! However, I do support all three of the Detroit companies. I've got a Dodge Ram pickup, Chevy HHR for a commuter, Mercury Montego, and of course the Falcon for fun ;-) I think the Australian Fords look a lot better than the Holdens. The older Holdens are butt ugly, but must admit the newer ones look better. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:59 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] OT - Custom headers leaking George Forget about the ugly blue oval This is the make you want, GM http://www.holden.com.au/latestoffers/commodore-offers/bonus-sunroof-on-ss,-ssv,-calais-andcalaisv-sedans?region=National Peter Kerry, I always thought that Australia has some pretty nice vehicles, not shared with the rest of the world. The new Falcon looks pretty nice although my old 64 is probably more fun ;-) George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Aug 25 07:35:03 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:35:03 +0100 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <3f2a9539122246dbff7b9a268ceeb5a8.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB57251@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <3f2a9539122246dbff7b9a268ceeb5a8.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: On 23 August 2011 19:37, wrote: > They make special header bolts with smaller 8 point heads than > standard....the heads are also just a bit taller. > They grip very well. > Land Rover use these on the exhaust headers for the V8 engine, being ex-Buick, the threads should still be NC. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Thu Aug 25 09:45:02 2011 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (=?utf-8?B?c2x1Z2dvNTRAaG90bWFpbC5jb20=?=) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 10:45:02 -0600 Subject: [SEL] =?utf-8?q?OT_-_Thin_Wall_Socket?= Message-ID: "If you're going through all the trouble of replacing them, George, it might be a good idea to consider stainless with a Torx head. Rob" I second the motion, and suggest adding a large dollop of a good anti-seize. Bruce Younger A serious writer is not to be confounded with a solemn writer. A serious writer may be a hawk or a buzzard or even a popinjay, but a solemn writer is always a bloody owl. E. Hemingway From George_Best at adp.com Thu Aug 25 09:55:43 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 11:55:43 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin Wall Socket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDD5D4EB@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Since the engine has aluminum heads I was planning on using some anti-seize. I was glad the old bolts came out as easy as they did. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of sluggo54 at hotmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 9:45 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin Wall Socket "If you're going through all the trouble of replacing them, George, it might be a good idea to consider stainless with a Torx head. Rob" I second the motion, and suggest adding a large dollop of a good anti-seize. Bruce Younger A serious writer is not to be confounded with a solemn writer. A serious writer may be a hawk or a buzzard or even a popinjay, but a solemn writer is always a bloody owl. E. Hemingway _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Aug 25 12:39:31 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 21:39:31 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Internal Fire Hall 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110825203206.00da55d8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 25/08/2011, you wrote: Message: 5 Subject: Internal Fire Hall 5 From: "Paul Evans" Hi Arnie, Getting emails from Oldengine but it will not allow me to post. Yes, going from the correct email :-) Was just trying to post an update on the Hall 5 for those who had supported the venture:- "A number of people on the lists have supported this project over the last couple of years. Has taken some time but the building is now weatherproof and we have finally taken the sheets off the engines. There is a news item on the museum website at [1]http://www.internalfire.com/news.php?ssid=1464 All the large engines have now run although the Ruston 6VE and Allen S47 have plenty of pipework left to do. Everything should be complete by the End of Season Crankup in October. Thanks again to everybody who has supported the build, just over ?28k was raised! 100% donations. If you (think) it worth posting on ATIS as well then it would be appreciated. Have not posted about progress much due to flack from Wieser etc, got enough to deal with! Cheers Paul Hi Paul, I looked at the website and Hall 5 is looking good. That first startup of the Allen was awesome -(We've never met so I need to ask - was that you on the ladder ??). I feel privileged and honoured that, in a very small way, I was able to add to those donations. When I auctioned those few plates almost everyone mentioned that they had already donated but "went for it again - anyway". Don't we have fantastic people in this hobby ?? Don't be concerned with the odd person who for some reason is not happy about you and what you do - "**it" happens in whatever "walk of life" you are in irrespective of the fact that your intentions are completely honourable. The other 99.99% of collectors make up for that odd one. In my little "engine plates" business I've been very lucky to have mostly "happy customers" but there have been 3 exceptions ! The one was an English collector who wanted a special plate for a Stuart pump (US$ 20,00's worth) but expected me to answer almost daily e-mails from him (immediately) about the EXACT price it was going to cost in spite of the fact that I pointed him to my webpage which has the prices published as well as a link to a currency converter to get to GBP - on the page I also mention that currencies fluctuate daily and I invoice according to the going rate on the day that I post the plates. He said that the "currency converter did not work for him" (?????). Eventually I wrote back to him that I did not have the time to answer his daily e-mails for a paltry US$ 20.00. His reply was that my attitude stank and that I should cancel his order and he would get the plate made by someone else who did not have "my bad attitude". I replied that it would be a pleasure and that I'd work on correcting "my attitude" :-) The other 2 were motor car collectors - I do not think that I want to do any more work for car collectors !! In the last 6 or 7 years that I have been making these plates (as a hobby - not a business ) I have met many really good people and their patience has been fantastic (I DO NOT offer quick service). SO, do not be intimidated by the odd person who is hard to please. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: <[2]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> References 1. http://www.internalfire.com/news.php?ssid=1464 2. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From jneth3 at mac.com Thu Aug 25 12:51:37 2011 From: jneth3 at mac.com (John Neth) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:51:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Message-ID: My wife and I just entered Berne. Anything going on this afternoon or this evening with the SEL group? Sent from my iPhone From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Aug 25 19:03:19 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 22:03:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9c7d8b7a0a03811aa459b38b2bc6d0d4.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Yep, we had a Cajun pastalaya and engine made ice cream. BURP... On Thu, August 25, 2011 3:51 pm, John Neth wrote: > My wife and I just entered Berne. Anything going on this afternoon or > this evening with the SEL group? From rotigel at me.com Mon Aug 29 13:26:11 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:26:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <5F8BAE09-B0F6-4A9B-B433-CEE0197EEAC1@me.com> I picked up a very nice set of thin wall sockets at Portland this past week. The 1" is missing from the set , but it goes from 3" down to 7/8" Dave On Aug 23, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Best, George wrote: > After checking a couple likely stores and finding no thin wall > sockets, I'm wondering about making my own. > > Would it work to take an old cheap socket and turn the outside down > on my lathe? > > Anyone try turning down a socket diameter before? From George_Best at adp.com Mon Aug 29 14:35:03 2011 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:35:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket In-Reply-To: <5F8BAE09-B0F6-4A9B-B433-CEE0197EEAC1@me.com> References: <70DC29C402054CFCBF197320052F2AE0@larryf92159205> <12A5CCED-948F-47F0-AF40-F72B7702CD52@windstream.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56D43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDDB56EB5@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <5F8BAE09-B0F6-4A9B-B433-CEE0197EEAC1@me.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40FDE01B152@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Dave, Glad you were able to find thin wall sockets for your 1" drive set. :-) Although at your age, you should probably be sticking to projects that you can use your 1/4" or 3/8" drive. Of course if you replace all your sockets with lighter thin wall versions, you may extend the time you'll be able to get your nuts off. ;-) George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave Rotigel Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 1:26 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - Thin wall socket I picked up a very nice set of thin wall sockets at Portland this past week. The 1" is missing from the set , but it goes from 3" down to 7/8" Dave This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From rotigel at me.com Mon Aug 29 18:41:43 2011 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:41:43 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Custom headers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: DEVIN, CALL YOUR MOTHER!!!!!!!!!! Dave On Aug 24, 2011, at 11:30 PM, Devin Holland wrote: > > I would suggest going by harbor freight and getting a impact socket > (thicker and its a 6point so its stronger) and useing a lathe on a > slow speed with a grinder so that u can get a nice even grind. > > > Devin Holland > Wish i was a in Portland but sadly im in my dorm is their a > collector on here near uah? > > > > > >> First thing I discovered last night is I couldn't get a socket on >> any of the header flange bolts, and could only get a box end wrench >> on one of the bolts. Luckily and open end wrench was sufficient to >> undo the others although movement was very limited. I'll probably >> check a tool store and see if a thin-wall socket will work. Also >> considered modifying a box-end wrench by heating it up and bending >> it some, plus grinding off excess metal around the box-end. Maybe >> a modified wrench is what I need. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Aug 30 09:01:39 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:01:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Cheap Shipping to Hungary? Message-ID: <2a5f19a1c06bdb40dda8e555b125ffb1.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Hi Folks, Does anyone have any suggestions regarding cheap shipping sources for some packages of old engine parts going to Hungary? I need to ship some Bessemer parts (intake valve assembly, governor, hot tube chimney, etc.) to a friend there. So the packages won't be large or heavy. Not like shipping an engine anyway. Thanks. See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com From kosh at ncweb.com Tue Aug 30 11:15:05 2011 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:15:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Cheap Shipping to Hungary? In-Reply-To: <2a5f19a1c06bdb40dda8e555b125ffb1.squirrel@webmail.realprod ata.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20110830141432.035c4140@ncweb.com> Is that in Lagos, Nigeria-Hungary? Dave Merchant At 12:01 PM 8/30/2011, you wrote: >Hi Folks, > >Does anyone have any suggestions regarding cheap shipping sources for some >packages of old engine parts going to Hungary? > >I need to ship some Bessemer parts (intake valve assembly, governor, hot >tube chimney, etc.) to a friend there. So the packages won't be large or >heavy. Not like shipping an engine anyway. > >Thanks. > >See ya, Arnie > >Arnie Fero >Pittsburgh, PA >fero_ah at city-net.com > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at ncweb.com kosh at nesys.com dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Aug 30 13:23:06 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:23:06 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Cheap Shipping to Hungary? In-Reply-To: <2a5f19a1c06bdb40dda8e555b125ffb1.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> References: <2a5f19a1c06bdb40dda8e555b125ffb1.squirrel@webmail.realprodata.com> Message-ID: On 30 August 2011 17:01, Arnie Fero wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Does anyone have any suggestions regarding cheap shipping sources for some > packages of old engine parts going to Hungary? > > I need to ship some Bessemer parts (intake valve assembly, governor, hot > tube chimney, etc.) to a friend there. ?So the packages won't be large or > heavy. ?Not like shipping an engine anyway. > > Thanks. > > See ya, ?Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA > fero_ah at city-net.com I think USPS has discontinued surface shipping now? One of the specialist carriers might be worth a try, Fedex and UPS would be horribly expensive, but we have a couple of parcel carriers here that offer better rates, so you must have them over there also. We just took a load of Crossley J type gas engine castings over to Holland, they came from Australia to the UK and we picked them up and took them over to the Juffer Family open day last weekend. Or, ship them to us or Dolly & Jim and we can maybe get them on a returning truck, Hungary ships a lot of stuff to the UK by road, so we could probably find a place back out there. Bert Juffer's young lady may also be worth contacting through Bert, she is Hungarian and would be aware of such things. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jbcast at charter.net Tue Aug 30 19:42:35 2011 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Cheap Shipping to Hungary? Message-ID: <6f60f283.15534e.1321db77894.Webtop.49@charter.net> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Listerdiesel wrote: > On 30 August 2011 17:01, Arnie Fero wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> >> Does anyone have any suggestions regarding cheap shipping sources for >> some >> packages of old engine parts going to Hungary? >> >> I need to ship some Bessemer parts (intake valve assembly, governor, >> hot >> tube chimney, etc.) to a friend there. ?So the packages won't be >> large or >> heavy. ?Not like shipping an engine anyway. >> >> Thanks. >> >> See ya, ?Arnie >> >> Arnie Fero Has the engine left for the U.K. yet? Could you include them with the engine and have them shipped from over there? J.B. Castagnos From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 31 09:35:31 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:35:31 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Juffer Family Open Day Message-ID: We travelled over to Holland last Friday to be at the Juffer Family home for their open day. Lots of nice machinery, only one heavy shower and the hospitality was excellent. A video of some of the engines is on YouTube, it is about 18 minutes long. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tafJSIjLcaI Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Aug 31 10:51:20 2011 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 10:51:20 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Juffer Family Open Day Message-ID: <20110831.105209.989.1642610@mailpop09.vgs.untd.com> Great video Peter, thanks. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ 57-Year-Old Mom Looks 25 Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e5e74fe5aa616bd9est02vuc From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Aug 31 13:32:37 2011 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:32:37 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Brass plates, Springtime 'n stuff Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110831223210.029e2720@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi Everybody, I did it, I survived the worst winter we have had in many years ! In less than 2 hours time Spring officially starts here - You Northerners can have your winter back (and preferably keep it there forever )!!! :-) Now to brass plates. I've just spent the last 2 days applying etch masks to all my outstanding orders and will start etching tomorrow. That means that approximately 50 old engines worldwide will soon be sporting a brand new replica brass spec. plate made by "yours truly" :-) Thank you all for your support over the last few years - I derive a lot of pleasure from knowing that my plates adorn engines on most continents - (I'm not too sure if we have any members in Antarctica but it would be nice to make a plate for there !!). (Did you know that a little grey Ferguson made it to the South Pole many years ago ?) See: <[1]http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/media/photo/dash-pole-tractors> and <[2]http://www.flickr.com/photos/electropod/2909945767/> and <[3]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson_TE20> The etching goes quite fast - it's the preparation and artwork that take the time. These days I take months to do all the artwork and only etch a batch of plates when I have enough to make it worthwhile to set up the whole caboodle. It seems that I only etch about every 4 or 5 months (I've never offered "lightning fast service"). Thanks again to all you guys (my customers) for being so patient. O.K. enough rambling - happy "Spring Day" to all the Southern Hemisphere members. Keep well, Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: <[4]www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm> References 1. http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/media/photo/dash-pole-tractors 2. http://www.flickr.com/photos/electropod/2909945767/ 3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson_TE20 4. http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Aug 31 14:11:40 2011 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:11:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Brass plates, Springtime 'n stuff Message-ID: So Jerry, We all know that when the various solstices and equinoxes (that mark the seasons) occur in England, that our Flame Mistress, Dolly, dons her black leather and frolics in the moonlight. May we assume that the same practices are used in SA to herald the Spring? If so, please forward the pics of Jacqui frolicking in the moonlight in her black leather. 8->> See ya, Arnie PS - Happy Spring Day! On Wed, August 31, 2011 4:32 pm, Jerry Evans wrote: > In less than 2 hours time Spring officially starts here > > O.K. enough rambling - happy Spring Day to all the > Southern Hemisphere members. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Aug 31 21:05:22 2011 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 05:05:22 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Juffer Family Open Day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 31 August 2011 17:35, Listerdiesel wrote: > We travelled over to Holland last Friday to be at the Juffer Family > home for their open day. The original appears to have a duplicated index, so we have re-processed the file to give a new, smaller item: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PZHyEhB-Xk The old one will remain for a few days then we will delete it. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk