From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Sep  1 04:47:29 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 12:47:29 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo Videos
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikMa0_sk5HGdhXHzkdAkByaD17b5S18V4q-B1OS@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikMa0_sk5HGdhXHzkdAkByaD17b5S18V4q-B1OS@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimmDOe1R2ta_O-Nywk71nt6q9+q2oo39u5bkbkF@mail.gmail.com>

On 31 August 2010 23:53, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm slowly working through the five mini-DVD's of videos for the
> Baraboo and Portland Shows.

Today's output so far:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP0mqBEsZJg
Steam sawing No3, Baraboo 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrGbI9md81M
Davis Flat Twin Engines, Baraboo 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHNU6rJCnws
Mineapolis Engine on the woodshop sawbench, Baraboo 2010

More later, I can leave the netbook processing and uploading while I'm
in the workshop :-))

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From oilengine at embarqmail.com  Wed Sep  1 17:32:28 2010
From: oilengine at embarqmail.com (Russell Farmer)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 20:32:28 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
Message-ID: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>

Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to post to the list.
I got my e-mail addresses subscribed via the wrong one-(Must be for the outgoing, not an inbox server)
Greetings to all if it works this time.
R. Farmer
No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.


From clemsweller at etczone.com  Wed Sep  1 17:45:27 2010
From: clemsweller at etczone.com (Chuck Emsweller)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 20:45:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
In-Reply-To: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
References: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
Message-ID: <C6208AB48DF5475F965360187F8CDFB0@ChuckDesktopPC>

Rusty,

Welcome aboard!  Didn't get a chance to talk with you much in Portland.
Wanted to let you know that the engine bug has transcended another
generation.  My 3 year old Grandson started the Maytag by himself at the
Greensburg show.  Pretty good considering he had never seen one before.

I'm sure that it will be a passing thing once he can pull the flywheels of
grandpa's larger engines.

See you in Brookville

Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell Farmer
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:32 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!

Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to post to the
list.
I got my e-mail addresses subscribed via the wrong one-(Must be for the
outgoing, not an inbox server)
Greetings to all if it works this time.
R. Farmer
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep  1 17:54:41 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 20:54:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
In-Reply-To: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
References: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
Message-ID: <ccf222d5bdb15a6e101e5de624771d8e.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Mr. Farmer,  WELCOME to the List!!  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, September 1, 2010 8:32 pm, Russell Farmer wrote:
> Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to post to the list.
> I got my e-mail addresses subscribed via the wrong one-(Must be for the outgoing,
> not an inbox server)
> Greetings to all if it works this time.
> R. Farmer





From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  1 17:53:47 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 17:53:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
In-Reply-To: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
Message-ID: <453596.68881.qm@web111701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Looks like ya did it right, Russ.
Welcome back !!!!!
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Wed, 9/1/10, Russell Farmer <oilengine at embarqmail.com> wrote:


From: Russell Farmer <oilengine at embarqmail.com>
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 8:32 PM


Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to post to the list.
I got my e-mail addresses subscribed via the wrong one-(Must be for the outgoing, not an inbox server)
Greetings to all if it works this time.
R. Farmer
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Wed Sep  1 17:57:17 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 20:57:17 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
References: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
Message-ID: <001201cb4a39$ca9450a0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Russell:

  Contact me off list at:  mr at carolina.rr.com

Thanks,

Mike Royster


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Farmer" <oilengine at embarqmail.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:32 PM
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!


> Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to post to 
> the list.
> I got my e-mail addresses subscribed via the wrong one-(Must be for the 
> outgoing, not an inbox server)
> Greetings to all if it works this time.
> R. Farmer
> No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of 
> electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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From rotigel at me.com  Wed Sep  1 18:08:07 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 21:08:07 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
In-Reply-To: <001201cb4a39$ca9450a0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
	<001201cb4a39$ca9450a0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <9426E6DC-DC3D-4315-AD6B-889BD004B18C@me.com>

Be careful re: Mike's request Russ--Be VERY CAREFUL!
	Dave

On Sep 1, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Mike Royster wrote:

> Russell:
>
>  Contact me off list at:  mr at carolina.rr.com
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Royster
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russell Farmer" <oilengine at embarqmail.com>
> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:32 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
>
>
>> Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to  
>> post to
>> the list.
>> I got my e-mail addresses subscribed via the wrong one-(Must be for  
>> the
>> outgoing, not an inbox server)
>> Greetings to all if it works this time.
>> R. Farmer
>> No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large  
>> number of
>> electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep  1 18:15:42 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 21:15:42 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
In-Reply-To: <001201cb4a39$ca9450a0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
	<001201cb4a39$ca9450a0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <5d93ad4dec4c9e8bc20e39c9693ab894.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

DANGER Will Robinson, DANGER!!

The last time that Tommy Turner "contacted" the Cloistered Oyster Brothers off-list,
the plundering of his engine collection began.  Russ, you are doomed, DOOMED, I
say....

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, September 1, 2010 8:57 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> Russell:
>
>   Contact me off list at:  mr at carolina.rr.com
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Royster
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russell Farmer" <oilengine at embarqmail.com>
>
>> Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to post to
>> the list.




From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Wed Sep  1 18:34:23 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 21:34:23 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
In-Reply-To: <5d93ad4dec4c9e8bc20e39c9693ab894.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <B2A59D413822414680B2F0E16DB0CE12@tommydk7hxjr4h>

Russell,
	I agree with Arnie.  Beware!

Tommy Turner




-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:16 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!


DANGER Will Robinson, DANGER!!

The last time that Tommy Turner "contacted" the Cloistered Oyster
Brothers off-list, the plundering of his engine collection began.  Russ,
you are doomed, DOOMED, I say....

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, September 1, 2010 8:57 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> Russell:
>
>   Contact me off list at:  mr at carolina.rr.com
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Royster
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russell Farmer" <oilengine at embarqmail.com>
>
>> Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to post

>> to the list.


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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Wed Sep  1 18:37:17 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:37:17 +1000
Subject: [SEL] R&V show Mount Pleasant
Message-ID: <5241CFC3A9FC44D3B75D0225E8CB149E@PeterPC>

Hi Guys
The R&V show at Mount Pleasant is going to be a blast. Some nice engines rolling in.
Today we spent the day back in East Moline, Illinois at the original R&V factories. There were three R&V Knight and one Moline car there as well. We drove the cars into the original 1905 repair garage where we believe no R&V car has been for 86 years. Photos will appear on the R&V web site soon.

For the FATG's there are hundreds of JD tractors at Mt Pleasant as they are the feature tractor this year, and my son Chris stopped count at 60 steam traction engines as well as many other tractors. I will photograph as much as I can.

I went to the VanDervoort crypt on Monday in Moline, IL where William and his wife are placed, an absolutely wonderful place and as pristine as it was built in 1916. The VanDervoort family have their own room where also Orlando Root and his wife are placed. Photos soon.
This part of the trip and Mt Pleasant is what I came for and if nothing else was well worth the trip and expense.
Today once back at Mt Pleasant I started meeting many R&V Register member, some for the first time.
Hope to catch some LIST guys over the next few days, I know Curt Andree and Joe Prindle are coming.

More soon.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia

From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Wed Sep  1 19:14:17 2010
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 12:14:17 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
In-Reply-To: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
References: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
Message-ID: <2D6DA12D69B142DCBEEA1D61444E874D@KerryPC>

Welcome back Russell but beware of an Oyster bearing gifts

Kerry

Kerry Morris
Lithgow NSW Oz
www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/



> Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to post to 
> the list.
> I got my e-mail addresses subscribed via the wrong one-(Must be for the 
> outgoing, not an inbox server)
> Greetings to all if it works this time.
> R. Farmer
> No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of 
> electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Thu Sep  2 03:43:14 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 06:43:14 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
References: <B2A59D413822414680B2F0E16DB0CE12@tommydk7hxjr4h>
Message-ID: <003001cb4a8b$a57551f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Oh you guys are a riot!!!!!!   I was just wanting to give Russell the option 
on some engines my brother recently acquired out of Kentucky.  :)

MR


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <Lcjudge at scrtc.com>
To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!


> Russell,
> I agree with Arnie.  Beware!
>
> Tommy Turner
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:16 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
>
>
> DANGER Will Robinson, DANGER!!
>
> The last time that Tommy Turner "contacted" the Cloistered Oyster
> Brothers off-list, the plundering of his engine collection began.  Russ,
> you are doomed, DOOMED, I say....
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> On Wed, September 1, 2010 8:57 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
>> Russell:
>>
>>   Contact me off list at:  mr at carolina.rr.com
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike Royster
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Russell Farmer" <oilengine at embarqmail.com>
>>
>>> Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to post
>
>>> to the list.
>
>
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Thu Sep  2 03:45:05 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 06:45:05 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
References: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
	<2D6DA12D69B142DCBEEA1D61444E874D@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <004b01cb4a8b$e7a5bf60$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Oh great, you too!  Et tu, Brute?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry" <ozengine at optusnet.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!


> Welcome back Russell but beware of an Oyster bearing gifts
>
> Kerry
>
> Kerry Morris
> Lithgow NSW Oz
> www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
>
>
>
>> Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to post to
>> the list.
>> I got my e-mail addresses subscribed via the wrong one-(Must be for the
>> outgoing, not an inbox server)
>> Greetings to all if it works this time.
>> R. Farmer
>> No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number 
>> of
>> electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
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>
>
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Thu Sep  2 16:50:33 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 18:50:33 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Stewart Little Wonder manual wanted
Message-ID: <11BD939F3828443FBDAF0AEBEC3F084E@PeterPC>

Hi guys
Does anyone have a Stewart Little Wonder manual that I can down load, I have a guy (Yank) that approached me at Mt Pleasant who is looking for info.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia

From plowe at exemail.com.au  Thu Sep  2 16:57:44 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 18:57:44 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Hi From Mt Pleasant
Message-ID: <A08DBFF7760A4185AD3AFCCCF319D8F2@PeterPC>

    Hi Guys
Met some LIST guys today and huge crowds here. The big days are to come, Friday and Saturday.
I would rough guess at 1000+ tractors and hundreds of engines and over 60 steam traction engines, we have over 3000+ photos, so far, to go through when we get home. I am just too tired are the end of each day to care about uploading. Also some great video.
Huge storm went through this afternoon with light hail, the grounds will be a bog tomorrow. Hope non of the R&V guys pull out as I have only been through about half of them after 12 hours today. Dozens of new serial numbers and some seriously new information has come to light today. Well worth the trip.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia

From plowe at exemail.com.au  Thu Sep  2 18:04:34 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 20:04:34 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Video files
Message-ID: <F2C65C9D6CA042D3BA67D5D8BA823E2B@PeterPC>

Hi all
If you were stupid enough to take a good video movie and then realized  you had your camera on its side so the movie plays back sideways, can you turn that around as you would an image file??
yes I was stupid !!!!

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia

From skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com  Thu Sep  2 18:27:31 2010
From: skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com (SKIP CLEVELAND)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 21:27:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Video files
References: <F2C65C9D6CA042D3BA67D5D8BA823E2B@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <C21601B493514306B4F4481E0C9A02E2@YOURDA6F5028CB>

Quicktime Pro says you can. I would have to buy it to use it. I opened a video and clicked on window and it came up.
Skip
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Peter Lowe 
  To: Oldengine.org ; ATIS 
  Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 9:04 PM
  Subject: Video files


  Hi all
  If you were stupid enough to take a good video movie and then realized  you had your camera on its side so the movie plays back sideways, can you turn that around as you would an image file??
  yes I was stupid !!!!

  Regards
  Peter Lowe
  R&V Engine Registrar
  http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
  Australia

From FRM8198 at aol.com  Thu Sep  2 19:01:40 2010
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 22:01:40 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Video files
Message-ID: <4c210.5ab7af79.39b1b104@aol.com>

Peter,
I suggest you contact Kim Komando.  She has daily tip sheet on  
computers/electronics along with a weekly radio show on  Saturday.  Here is her email 
address - _http://www.komando.com/email-kim.aspx_ 
(http://www.komando.com/email-kim.aspx) 
 
Francis Maciel
Santa Maria, CA 93454
 
 
In a message dated 9/2/2010 6:47:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
plowe at exemail.com.au writes:

If you  were stupid enough to take a good video movie and then realized  
you had  your camera on its side so the movie plays back sideways, can you 
turn that  around as you would an image  file??



From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Thu Sep  2 19:11:25 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 22:11:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Video files
In-Reply-To: <C21601B493514306B4F4481E0C9A02E2@YOURDA6F5028CB>
Message-ID: <9287EFEB2802467DB0A8A7DE7085C833@tommydk7hxjr4h>



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of SKIP
CLEVELAND
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 9:28 PM
Peter,
     We could just play the videos back on a laptop and lay the laptop
its side.

Tommy Turner





  Hi all
  If you were stupid enough to take a good video movie and then realized
you had your camera on its side so the movie plays back sideways, can
you turn that around as you would an image file??
  yes I was stupid !!!!

  Regards
  Peter Lowe
  R&V Engine Registrar
  http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
  Australia
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From swilliams268 at frontier.com  Thu Sep  2 20:16:27 2010
From: swilliams268 at frontier.com (Steve W.)
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 23:16:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Video files
In-Reply-To: <F2C65C9D6CA042D3BA67D5D8BA823E2B@PeterPC>
References: <F2C65C9D6CA042D3BA67D5D8BA823E2B@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <4C80688B.9000707@frontier.com>

Peter Lowe wrote:
> Hi all If you were stupid enough to take a good video movie and then
> realized  you had your camera on its side so the movie plays back
> sideways, can you turn that around as you would an image file?? yes I
> was stupid !!!!
> 
> Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar 
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm 
> Australia _______________________________________________ SEL mailing
> list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com 
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 

http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/products/dvd/Free-Video-Flip-and-Rotate.htm

-- 
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(='.'=)
(")_(")


From rotigel at me.com  Fri Sep  3 09:40:44 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 12:40:44 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures
Message-ID: <EA4555A3-1C53-4DCC-992E-5CD1FE88B5CF@me.com>

Hi Gang, I need the site for Reg's FAT pictures. Any help would sure  
be appreciated! THANKS
	Dave


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri Sep  3 13:51:48 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 21:51:48 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland/Baraboo Videos
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=DSctbEKp1ha-U0WaxFMUFFU62XJ3bsRr9WBW7@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All:

There are now 14 or 15 (one is uploading now) videos available for the
Baraboo and Portland shows, go to:

http://www.youtube.com/listerdiesel

I will post again when they are all online, we are about 1/2 way there.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Fri Sep  3 14:48:57 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 07:48:57 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures
References: <EA4555A3-1C53-4DCC-992E-5CD1FE88B5CF@me.com>
Message-ID: <CF65A0357D424C378A656364A2D27884@regpc>

Reg with a fat?????   Send him home, NOW.   Marg
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
To: <slick at toltbbs.com>; "The SEL email discussion list" 
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 2:40 AM
Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures


> Hi Gang, I need the site for Reg's FAT pictures. Any help would sure
> be appreciated! THANKS
> Dave
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Sep  3 07:38:21 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 09:38:21 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Mount Pleasant
Message-ID: <3980BC75CC4C4FBEB99DA4EEB93310FB@PeterPC>

Hi all
Caught up with LIST guys Curt Andree, Joe Prindle and Joe Kelley today at Mount Pleasant R&V show.
Around 130 R&V engines, Moline tractors, Moline and R&V Knight cars and R&V memorabilia.
Lots of new serial numbers, lots of new and old faces.
The VanDervoort family arrived this afternoon and we drove around town in a 1924 R&V Knight car.

Off to the local steak house with Curt for supper.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia

From rotigel at me.com  Fri Sep  3 17:07:20 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 20:07:20 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures
In-Reply-To: <CF65A0357D424C378A656364A2D27884@regpc>
References: <EA4555A3-1C53-4DCC-992E-5CD1FE88B5CF@me.com>
	<CF65A0357D424C378A656364A2D27884@regpc>
Message-ID: <08FF5BCA-EBD1-49FC-9832-A5BB6BA82FDA@me.com>

Sorry Marg, I forgot the R. Reg is fine and not at all "fa(r)t." Hell  
216 lbs. on his frame is not all that much!
	Dave
PS, Can you find the pictures that I need?

On Sep 3, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Reg Ingold wrote:

> Reg with a fat?????   Send him home, NOW.   Marg
> Reg & Marg Ingold
> Newcastle NSW Australia
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
> To: <slick at toltbbs.com>; "The SEL email discussion list"
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 2:40 AM
> Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures
>
>
>> Hi Gang, I need the site for Reg's FAT pictures. Any help would sure
>> be appreciated! THANKS
>> Dave
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From rotigel at me.com  Fri Sep  3 18:01:45 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 21:01:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Mount Pleasant
In-Reply-To: <3980BC75CC4C4FBEB99DA4EEB93310FB@PeterPC>
References: <3980BC75CC4C4FBEB99DA4EEB93310FB@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <8615122F-D79C-4212-B6C5-7AF919F182FE@me.com>

Please send videos!
	Dave

On Sep 3, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:

> Hi all
> Caught up with LIST guys Curt Andree, Joe Prindle and Joe Kelley  
> today at Mount Pleasant R&V show.
> Around 130 R&V engines, Moline tractors, Moline and R&V Knight cars  
> and R&V memorabilia.
> Lots of new serial numbers, lots of new and old faces.
> The VanDervoort family arrived this afternoon and we drove around  
> town in a 1924 R&V Knight car.
>
> Off to the local steak house with Curt for supper.
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe


From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Fri Sep  3 18:49:17 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 11:49:17 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures
References: <EA4555A3-1C53-4DCC-992E-5CD1FE88B5CF@me.com><CF65A0357D424C378A656364A2D27884@regpc>
	<08FF5BCA-EBD1-49FC-9832-A5BB6BA82FDA@me.com>
Message-ID: <DD632405367A49B59C33EF4DF9CD4F49@regpc>

That went through to the keeper!!   I was being rude.   I haven,t opened any 
list pics, so can,t help.   Sorry.   Marg
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> On Sep 3, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Reg Ingold wrote:
>
>> Reg with a fat?????   Send him home, NOW.   Marg
>> Reg & Marg Ingold
>> Newcastle NSW Australia
>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
>> To: <slick at toltbbs.com>; "The SEL email discussion list"
>> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 2:40 AM
>> Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures
>>
>>
>>> Hi Gang, I need the site for Reg's FAT pictures. Any help would sure
>>> be appreciated! THANKS
>>> Dave
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From rotigel at me.com  Fri Sep  3 19:04:06 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 22:04:06 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures
In-Reply-To: <DD632405367A49B59C33EF4DF9CD4F49@regpc>
References: <EA4555A3-1C53-4DCC-992E-5CD1FE88B5CF@me.com>
	<CF65A0357D424C378A656364A2D27884@regpc>
	<08FF5BCA-EBD1-49FC-9832-A5BB6BA82FDA@me.com>
	<DD632405367A49B59C33EF4DF9CD4F49@regpc>
Message-ID: <C3DDCCEA-2980-49AF-A87C-EDB3C02F24D4@me.com>

Hi Marg,
	Reg left you at home with a "keeper?" Is a 'keeper" in OZ the same  
thing as a "pool boy" here in the USA? How old is he? What does he  
look like? SEND PICTURES!
		Dave
PS, You may be beautiful--but NEVER rude!

On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Reg Ingold wrote:

> That went through to the keeper!!   I was being rude.   I haven,t  
> opened any
> list pics, so can,t help.   Sorry.   Marg
> Reg & Marg Ingold
> Newcastle NSW Australia
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>> On Sep 3, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Reg Ingold wrote:
>>
>>> Reg with a fat?????   Send him home, NOW.   Marg
>>> Reg & Marg Ingold
>>> Newcastle NSW Australia
>>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
>>> To: <slick at toltbbs.com>; "The SEL email discussion list"
>>> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 2:40 AM
>>> Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Gang, I need the site for Reg's FAT pictures. Any help would  
>>>> sure
>>>> be appreciated! THANKS
>>>> Dave
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> SEL mailing list
>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Fri Sep  3 19:47:58 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 12:47:58 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures
References: <EA4555A3-1C53-4DCC-992E-5CD1FE88B5CF@me.com><CF65A0357D424C378A656364A2D27884@regpc><08FF5BCA-EBD1-49FC-9832-A5BB6BA82FDA@me.com><DD632405367A49B59C33EF4DF9CD4F49@regpc>
	<C3DDCCEA-2980-49AF-A87C-EDB3C02F24D4@me.com>
Message-ID: <0D09EFFE07CD4D3BBF0CCEAA6060C26F@regpc>

Reg left me with a keeper????   Does he mean my pussy.................oops, 
cat?   Only us 2 here.   Sigh.   M x
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures


> Hi Marg,
> Reg left you at home with a "keeper?" Is a 'keeper" in OZ the same
> thing as a "pool boy" here in the USA? How old is he? What does he
> look like? SEND PICTURES!
> Dave
> PS, You may be beautiful--but NEVER rude!
>




From rob at rustyiron.com  Fri Sep  3 20:24:39 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 20:24:39 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures
In-Reply-To: <DD632405367A49B59C33EF4DF9CD4F49@regpc>
References: <EA4555A3-1C53-4DCC-992E-5CD1FE88B5CF@me.com><CF65A0357D424C378A656364A2D27884@regpc>
	<08FF5BCA-EBD1-49FC-9832-A5BB6BA82FDA@me.com>
	<DD632405367A49B59C33EF4DF9CD4F49@regpc>
Message-ID: <58276ECC-4A80-40C7-B7AC-552CB71D0B74@rustyiron.com>


On Sep 3, 2010, at 6:49 PM, Reg Ingold wrote:

> That went through to the keeper!!   I was being rude.   I haven,t  
> opened any
> list pics, so can,t help.   Sorry.   Marg

Too late NOW.  We've already sent all the fat girls home... and they  
were QUITE disappointed.









From sluggo54 at hotmail.com  Sat Sep  4 10:24:12 2010
From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 12:24:12 -0500
Subject: [SEL] R&V Knight
Message-ID: <BAY127-W141044CC6B9E51CE086164CB8E0@phx.gbl>


"Hi all
Caught up with LIST guys Curt Andree, Joe Prindle and Joe Kelley today at Mount Pleasant R&V show.
Around 130 R&V engines, Moline tractors, Moline and R&V Knight cars and R&V memorabilia.
Lots of new serial numbers, lots of new and old faces.
The VanDervoort family arrived this afternoon and we drove around town in a 1924 R&V Knight car.
 
Off to the local steak house with Curt for supper.
 
Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar"

Hi, Peter,

Back in the late 30's, my grandfather bought a 1930 Willys-Knight Model 87 sedan with a sleeve-valve engine. 
The engine was very quiet, almost silent.  Is the R&V Knight also a sleeve-valve? 

He kept that car until he could no longer justify a vehicle for which no parts were available.


Bruce Younger   

05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68   

Madison, SD  

sluggo54 at hotmail.com   



"There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted   
armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter."   

E. Hemingway



 		 	   		  

From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sat Sep  4 04:54:26 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 06:54:26 -0500
Subject: [SEL] R&V Knight
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W141044CC6B9E51CE086164CB8E0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY127-W141044CC6B9E51CE086164CB8E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DEB576EFA5634767BA678AA31DCA7D0A@PeterPC>

Hi Bruce

Yes it was a sleeve valve engine.
When a car with zero parts availability is for sale it reduces its 
marketability I guess, unless you are a real fanatic.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia


>
> "Hi all
> Caught up with LIST guys Curt Andree, Joe Prindle and Joe Kelley today at 
> Mount Pleasant R&V show.
> Around 130 R&V engines, Moline tractors, Moline and R&V Knight cars and 
> R&V memorabilia.
> Lots of new serial numbers, lots of new and old faces.
> The VanDervoort family arrived this afternoon and we drove around town in 
> a 1924 R&V Knight car.
>
> Off to the local steak house with Curt for supper.
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar"
>
> Hi, Peter,
>
> Back in the late 30's, my grandfather bought a 1930 Willys-Knight Model 87 
> sedan with a sleeve-valve engine.
> The engine was very quiet, almost silent.  Is the R&V Knight also a 
> sleeve-valve?
>
> He kept that car until he could no longer justify a vehicle for which no 
> parts were available.
>
>
> Bruce Younger
>
> 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68
>
> Madison, SD
>
> sluggo54 at hotmail.com
>
>
>
> "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted
> armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else 
> thereafter."
>
> E. Hemingway
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Sep  4 14:30:10 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 22:30:10 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=i-a++p_grXAPhs5fY-TCkiruJKtiCQ1WmX8pH@mail.gmail.com>

The first 48 pictures and menu pages are up at:

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm

and on the US server:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm

Let me know of any missing pages or if you want to add any information.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From briwatt at optusnet.com.au  Sat Sep  4 14:43:42 2010
From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 07:43:42 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aust, Members
Message-ID: <A6FBAB7AD3CE4B1DA4D31CEFEDB99086@bd32d875216e74>

Can anyone give me Devon Amber`s Email address please?
Brian Watts
briwatt at optusnet.com.au
(03) 97266147

David Watts
damewatt at bigpond.com.au
(03) 87616332

videos..
http://www.youtube.com/user/brianvwatts

From k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com  Sat Sep  4 17:32:15 2010
From: k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com (k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 08:32:15 +0800
Subject: [SEL] date of crossley engine resend
Message-ID: <FB3C18AE333F4CF19A6990DDCA61F434@armstrong>

did anyone get my email re date of crossley engine

 
Hello all, 

Can some body advise me of the age of this Crossley engine So 119308 RPM 600 TYPE VOSE7 BHP 11-12
and where can I get information
can supply photos

regards
Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong
Collectors of old things
Perth 
WA
Australia
Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member
k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com
www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong

From rotigel at me.com  Sat Sep  4 17:34:18 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2010 20:34:18 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=i-a++p_grXAPhs5fY-TCkiruJKtiCQ1WmX8pH@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=i-a++p_grXAPhs5fY-TCkiruJKtiCQ1WmX8pH@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B638AA66-6769-405D-BB6A-5D9A8B8E9688@me.com>

VERY nice Peter. THANKS!
	Dave

On Sep 4, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Listerdiesel wrote:

> The first 48 pictures and menu pages are up at:
>
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm
>
> and on the US server:
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm
>
> Let me know of any missing pages or if you want to add any  
> information.
>
> Peter


From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Sat Sep  4 20:01:02 2010
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 13:01:02 +1000
Subject: [SEL] date of crossley engine resend
In-Reply-To: <FB3C18AE333F4CF19A6990DDCA61F434@armstrong>
References: <FB3C18AE333F4CF19A6990DDCA61F434@armstrong>
Message-ID: <3D5B4111A51548B0808EFD60DF4A1D79@KerryPC>

Yes, did you get my reply
Kerry




> did anyone get my email re date of crossley engine
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> Can some body advise me of the age of this Crossley engine So 119308 RPM 
> 600 TYPE VOSE7 BHP 11-12
> and where can I get information
> can supply photos



From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sat Sep  4 11:02:54 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 13:02:54 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Mount pleasant is over
Message-ID: <716F1F7EDF69448FAC63454634170143@PeterPC>

    Hi all
Well we finished off a great 4 days at Mount Pleasant, Iowa with the R&V engine seminars tonight and a wealth of information shared and gained. Talks on the car, engine, company and ordnance side of R&V Engineering Co.
This has been another major engine show that has been well worth coming all this way for and actually more close comradeship than the 2003 centenary reunion, I think time was the best factor.
Many thanks to Barry Tuller for hosting the show, Joe Prindle for his valued information, Joe Kelley, Curt Andree and all the others boys and gals who made it a great week.
The presence of the VanDervoort family made it all that much more special.
We are off to Chicago for three days R&R (not R&V) and then Los Angeles and then home next Friday.

Thanks to all those at Portland, Indiana and Mount Pleasant for an absolutely great time, as usual. Your are a top bunch.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia


From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sun Sep  5 04:23:19 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:23:19 +1000
Subject: [SEL] date of crossley engine resend
In-Reply-To: <FB3C18AE333F4CF19A6990DDCA61F434@armstrong>
Message-ID: <C8A9BAC7.59B8%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

I think I missed it as I have been busy with work and engine rallies. Have
you tried contacting the Anson Museum?
Patrick


On 5/9/10 10:32 AM, "k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com" <k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com>
wrote:

> did anyone get my email re date of crossley engine
> 
>  
> Hello all, 
> 
> Can some body advise me of the age of this Crossley engine So 119308 RPM 600
> TYPE VOSE7 BHP 11-12
> and where can I get information
> can supply photos
> 
> regards
> Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong
> Collectors of old things
> Perth 
> WA
> Australia
> Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member
> k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com
> www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sun Sep  5 04:31:17 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:31:17 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally 2010
Message-ID: <C8A9BCA5.59BB%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

Back from another weekend playing engines. Another excellent weekend at the
Rusty Iron Rally in Macksville. An impressive array of engines and a great
time was had by all. It is always good to catch up with engine people I have
not seen in a while. It is like catching up with family.
I took the 12hp R&V for the 6 hour drive up there and it ran well except for
the fact that it always sulks when it gets wet. It rained all the way up on
Friday and all Friday night. It was fine for Saturday (with big crowds
through the gates), poured Saturday night and was fine and sunny today. The
rain did make the ground very soft. I had to use low range 4WD to pull the
engine and trailer out.
I took lots of pics and will sort them out sometime this week.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From oilengine at embarqmail.com  Sun Sep  5 04:34:58 2010
From: oilengine at embarqmail.com (Russell Farmer)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 07:34:58 -0400
Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
Message-ID: <746C842773764FE4A7FE831B3C1C2FBA@FarmerPC>

Apparently Mr.Royster (Oyster's) Reputation has preceded himself on the list.  
Send me an e-mail anytime. But I really do not have room to store any more engines. (Trying to learn self control) 
R. Farmer
No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.


From Germoamer at aol.com  Sun Sep  5 05:52:58 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 08:52:58 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
Message-ID: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>

I do not believe I have ever seen an Economy like this.  Anybody know  what 
model it might be?
 
_http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10011.htm_ 
(http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10011.htm) 
 
Thanks for all the great pictures Peter!  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Sep  5 06:12:59 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 14:12:59 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>

On 5 September 2010 13:52,  <Germoamer at aol.com> wrote:
> I do not believe I have ever seen an Economy like this. ?Anybody know ?what
> model it might be?
>
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10011.htm
>
> Thanks for all the great pictures Peter!
>
> Tom ?Schmutz

Hi Tom:

I'll be happy to correct any of the captions to the pictures, in this
case I wasn't left with a lot of choice as to the name!

There are another 48 pictures added this morning, you can link between
the four menu pages. I'll get more on later today.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk



From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Sun Sep  5 07:16:22 2010
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 10:16:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
Message-ID: <14684187.1283696183066.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

You would not want any of Mike's engines anyway Russell, acording to his new engine cover they are just Girlie Engines.  Steve is the one you have to watch out for.  Mike is harmless only to be given a bad name by his brother.  Would a person who bought a toy for 2 little boys at the charity auction be someone you would have to be leary of?  

Tim Christoff

-----Original Message-----
>From: Russell Farmer <oilengine at embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 5, 2010 7:34 AM
>To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
>
>Apparently Mr.Royster (Oyster's) Reputation has preceded himself on the list.  
>Send me an e-mail anytime. But I really do not have room to store any more engines. (Trying to learn self control) 
>R. Farmer
>No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Tim Christoff


From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sun Sep  5 10:24:17 2010
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 13:24:17 -0400
Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
In-Reply-To: <14684187.1283696183066.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <E6CD85807ADE4FC3B869B4D49E8B66C7@D2JYVHJ1>

Tim,
	It all depends on whether those 2 little boys are named Mike and
Steve...  I know when those 2 little boys come to my place I lock all
the doors and keep the mags and oilers hid!

Tommy Turner





Would a person who bought a toy for 2 little boys at the charity auction
be someone you would have to be leary of?  

Tim Christoff





From mr at carolina.rr.com  Sun Sep  5 12:03:50 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 15:03:50 -0400
Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
References: <14684187.1283696183066.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <001d01cb4d2d$136081f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Thank you Tim, I'd write more but the eyes are all misty thinking of the joy 
brought to your boys via the Charity Auction!!!

MR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Christoff" <tchristoff at earthlink.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!


> You would not want any of Mike's engines anyway Russell, acording to his 
> new engine cover they are just Girlie Engines.  Steve is the one you have 
> to watch out for.  Mike is harmless only to be given a bad name by his 
> brother.  Would a person who bought a toy for 2 little boys at the charity 
> auction be someone you would have to be leary of?
>
> Tim Christoff
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Russell Farmer <oilengine at embarqmail.com>
>>Sent: Sep 5, 2010 7:34 AM
>>To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
>>
>>Apparently Mr.Royster (Oyster's) Reputation has preceded himself on the 
>>list.
>>Send me an e-mail anytime. But I really do not have room to store any more 
>>engines. (Trying to learn self control)
>>R. Farmer
>>No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of 
>>electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> Tim Christoff
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sun Sep  5 15:49:00 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 00:49:00 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Our annual show
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100905234726.00ddd3a0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi All,
	It's quite late here and I got back from our annual club show an hour or 
so back. Webpage and pics will follow in a few days, I'm not as organised 
as Patrick who has show reports up within 24
hours - this is Africa and things take a bit longer :-)

	The purpose of this mail is just to say what a great weekend I had. Since 
I joined this hobby a few years back I have never ceased to be amazed by 
the really great people I've met. Firstly, on the 2 lists that this mail 
goes to and then to the local guys I've met. I've often said "Engine guys 
are the greatest" and this weekend just proved my point once again. I met 
up with old friends again and met many new friends (the hobby is really 
growing here).

	Our show was fantastic but allow me first to explain that we do not have 
anywhere as many engines as in the USA, Britain or Aus., - we are "small 
fry" when it comes to "numbers" but the cameraderie and friendship shared 
and experienced is as great as any of you will ever experience.
	
	What a fantastic hobby !! I'm on a "HIGH" right now (which has very little 
to do with my consumption of "adult beverages" :-) - I have just had such a 
great time meeting up with "enginemen" and their ladies - what great people 
- real "salt of the earth" people.

	I would also like to say (again) thanks to all you friends on these lists 
(although I've never met you personally) you are all "the greatest". Thanks 
for all the friendship, all the help that is so readily given, the 
cameraderie and just for being what or who you are - "enginemen" (and of 
course your "engine" ladies).

	A message to my special list friend Reg, I hope one of our Yankee friends 
shows you this mail. "Reggie" the little "Alfa Laval" Ronnie "N" that you 
found for me was a STAR. Since I managed to sort out his flywheel problem 
he has behaved himself perfectly. He ran for PERFECTLY for both days  of 
the show - he never missed a beat (that distinctive Ronnie "N" sound). 
Spectators made all the right "OOh & AAgh" sounds. He even outperformed his 
buddy "Rusty" (my Ruston and Hornsby PT) who is my "flagship engine' but 
seems to have gathered some dirt in his carb which I will sort out next 
week. "Reggie" stole the show - and that's in spite of the fact that Arnie 
said that "If I name him "Reggie" I should expect trouble" :-)

	That's it for now.
Please all keep well,
Jerry



From rob at rustyiron.com  Sun Sep  5 16:09:54 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 16:09:54 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Our annual show
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100905234726.00ddd3a0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100905234726.00ddd3a0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <23D11ADE-5785-47AE-9D94-D47AC5F0448F@rustyiron.com>


On Sep 5, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Jerry Evans wrote:
> The purpose of this mail is just to say what a great weekend I had.  
> Since
> I joined this hobby a few years back I have never ceased to be  
> amazed by
> the really great people I've met.

Right on, brutha!






From rotigel at me.com  Sun Sep  5 18:20:12 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:20:12 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Our annual show
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100905234726.00ddd3a0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100905234726.00ddd3a0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <5A08C693-6A74-4D95-9C38-FD5821367EC5@me.com>

Some of you may not know, but Jerry was very much in evidence at  
Portland as well. The etched plaques (both on site and custom made)  
that he donated to the ATIS Charity Auction brought in a good bit of  
money! All in all we raised about $1,400.00 at the 2010 auction!
	Dave
PS, Thanks to everyone who participated and particularly to Joe for  
buying that cute outfit for his wife!
PPS, Joe, PICTURES?
PPPS, Tim, Did you find any BIG NUTS yet?
PPPPS, Terri, Keep in mind what happens at Portland stays in Portland-- 
mostly!
PPPPPS, Missy, are you taking good care of my King Dick?
PPPPPPS, That's all folks!


On Sep 5, 2010, at 6:49 PM, Jerry Evans wrote:

> Hi All,
> 	It's quite late here and I got back from our annual club show an  
> hour or
> so back. Webpage and pics will follow in a few days, I'm not as  
> organised
> as Patrick who has show reports up within 24
> hours - this is Africa and things take a bit longer :-)
>
> 	The purpose of this mail is just to say what a great weekend I had.  
> Since
> I joined this hobby a few years back I have never ceased to be  
> amazed by
> the really great people I've met. Firstly, on the 2 lists that this  
> mail
> goes to and then to the local guys I've met. I've often said "Engine  
> guys
> are the greatest" and this weekend just proved my point once again.  
> I met
> up with old friends again and met many new friends (the hobby is  
> really
> growing here).
>
> 	Our show was fantastic but allow me first to explain that we do not  
> have
> anywhere as many engines as in the USA, Britain or Aus., - we are  
> "small
> fry" when it comes to "numbers" but the cameraderie and friendship  
> shared
> and experienced is as great as any of you will ever experience.
> 	
> 	What a fantastic hobby !! I'm on a "HIGH" right now (which has very  
> little
> to do with my consumption of "adult beverages" :-) - I have just had  
> such a
> great time meeting up with "enginemen" and their ladies - what great  
> people
> - real "salt of the earth" people.
>
> 	I would also like to say (again) thanks to all you friends on these  
> lists
> (although I've never met you personally) you are all "the greatest".  
> Thanks
> for all the friendship, all the help that is so readily given, the
> cameraderie and just for being what or who you are -  
> "enginemen" (and of
> course your "engine" ladies).
>
> 	A message to my special list friend Reg, I hope one of our Yankee  
> friends
> shows you this mail. "Reggie" the little "Alfa Laval" Ronnie "N"  
> that you
> found for me was a STAR. Since I managed to sort out his flywheel  
> problem
> he has behaved himself perfectly. He ran for PERFECTLY for both  
> days  of
> the show - he never missed a beat (that distinctive Ronnie "N" sound).
> Spectators made all the right "OOh & AAgh" sounds. He even  
> outperformed his
> buddy "Rusty" (my Ruston and Hornsby PT) who is my "flagship engine'  
> but
> seems to have gathered some dirt in his carb which I will sort out  
> next
> week. "Reggie" stole the show - and that's in spite of the fact that  
> Arnie
> said that "If I name him "Reggie" I should expect trouble" :-)
>
> 	That's it for now.
> Please all keep well,
> Jerry
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From yostsw at atis.net  Sun Sep  5 18:35:16 2010
From: yostsw at atis.net (Spencer Yost)
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:35:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland report
Message-ID: <4C844554.5030906@atis.net>

  Where do I even start?   The show was great, the weather was great and 
most amazingly - THE BALL RUNS!   Between my ignorance and bum arm, I 
absolutely would not even have come close to getting this thing to start 
without the generous help of a bunch of people.   So let me start this 
message by thanking them:

Brice Adams - Stalwart friend and full-time Ball mechanic that did not 
let up for a minute helping me with the engine.  He literally spent 
hours every day helping me.

Devin Holland - Its great to have a teenager to help with the tough 
jobs(and he helped with that too), but Devin is more than that.   He is 
delightful bright young man that knows more about old engines than I 
do!(I hope I spelled your first name right???).  He helped for hours 
every day too.

Curtis Holland - He provided a lot of help and guidance, especially 
during bearing shimming.

Steve Weber - Oilfield engine engineer extraordinaire who was able to 
operate the engine so well the engine popped and ran almost immediately 
on its first firing and later taught me to run this engine.

Keith Kinney - Another engine guru that helped at every turn and 
provided all manner of help and guidance and starting assistance (and 
tool rental (-:  )

Steve Sewell and Tim Brown - Without these two guys letting me borrow 
their golf carts, I would have wasted hours walking to and fro in the 
swap area and to downtown Portland

SEL engine list members:   Just about everyone in the engine area helped 
in one way or another - Arnie provided tools, Dave gave me some supplies 
and advice, several lent strong arms to provide starting power (Luke 
Tonnenberger deserves special mention here) and more.   Thank you folks 
VERY MUCH.

AT tractor folks - Gene Dotson constantly checked in and provided moral 
support.   Several helped to locate items in the swap area and the rest 
provided generous and wise counsel (and beer!)

Tri-state:   For providing such a great show and the propane.

Ackers - Taylor Plumbing, Portland IN - They cheerfully and quickly 
ordered pipe and fittings and threaded custom length pipe for me.


In other words, this was a group effort and represents the best of what 
technology and the Internet can do.   I thank all of you from the bottom 
of my heart and hope to see all of you next year.   Here is a quick 
video of it running Friday night.   I am working on long video that 
Brice took, but the video is way too large for You-tube and my web site 
and will get that to you folks as soon as I can manage to figure out how 
to edit it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6Vw9OpXLNo


With very warm regards,

Spencer Yost



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sun Sep  5 21:07:16 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 00:07:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland report
In-Reply-To: <4C844554.5030906@atis.net>
References: <4C844554.5030906@atis.net>
Message-ID: <0b24b0a7d2438d1079177cadd42127c7.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

SWEEEET!!  And the two yellow dogs really set the engine off nicely!

As you described so well below, this sort of "group effort" at Portland is what
makes this group so bloody fantastic and makes Portland so magical.

Well done Spencer!!

See ya,  Arnie

On Sun, September 5, 2010 9:35 pm, Spencer Yost wrote:
>   Where do I even start?   The show was great, the weather was great and
> most amazingly - THE BALL RUNS!   Between my ignorance and bum arm, I
> absolutely would not even have come close to getting this thing to start
> without the generous help of a bunch of people.   So let me start this
> message by thanking them:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6Vw9OpXLNo





From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Sun Sep  5 21:00:56 2010
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 00:00:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
Message-ID: <8217540.1283745656759.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

It was a true Kodak moment Mike.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Royster <mr at carolina.rr.com>
>Sent: Sep 5, 2010 3:03 PM
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
>
>Thank you Tim, I'd write more but the eyes are all misty thinking of the joy 
>brought to your boys via the Charity Auction!!!
>
>MR
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Tim Christoff" <tchristoff at earthlink.net>
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 10:16 AM
>Subject: Re: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
>
>
>> You would not want any of Mike's engines anyway Russell, acording to his 
>> new engine cover they are just Girlie Engines.  Steve is the one you have 
>> to watch out for.  Mike is harmless only to be given a bad name by his 
>> brother.  Would a person who bought a toy for 2 little boys at the charity 
>> auction be someone you would have to be leary of?
>>
>> Tim Christoff
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: Russell Farmer <oilengine at embarqmail.com>
>>>Sent: Sep 5, 2010 7:34 AM
>>>To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
>>>
>>>Apparently Mr.Royster (Oyster's) Reputation has preceded himself on the 
>>>list.
>>>Send me an e-mail anytime. But I really do not have room to store any more 
>>>engines. (Trying to learn self control)
>>>R. Farmer
>>>No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of 
>>>electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>SEL mailing list
>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>> Tim Christoff
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Tim Christoff


From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Sun Sep  5 21:35:08 2010
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 23:35:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
In-Reply-To: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
Message-ID: <2413C69A-38B1-4352-AD86-DC8F1D8C3439@herculesengines.com>

It is a Waterloo built Economy, the predecessor of the Sparta Economy engines.  A pretty uncommon engine.
If you look at the Model A Sparta built engines you will see some similarities to the Waterloo.
Keith





On Sep 5, 2010, at 7:52 AM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote:

> I do not believe I have ever seen an Economy like this.  Anybody know  what 
> model it might be?
> 
> _http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10011.htm_ 
> (http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10011.htm) 
> 
> Thanks for all the great pictures Peter!  
> 
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord,  Va.
> germoamer at AOL.com
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Keith Kinney
kkinney at herculesengines.com
WWW.HerculesEngines.com






From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sun Sep  5 22:40:22 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:40:22 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally Pics
Message-ID: <C8AABBE6.59E1%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

A few pics at:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri2010/index.htm
Enjoy.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sun Sep  5 22:48:15 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:48:15 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Portland report
In-Reply-To: <4C844554.5030906@atis.net>
Message-ID: <C8AABDBF.59E6%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

Great stuff Spencer. It sounds as though you all had a great time and had
fun getting your engine sorted. What fantastic people there are in this
hobby.
Patrick




Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Sep  5 23:17:49 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 07:17:49 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
In-Reply-To: <2413C69A-38B1-4352-AD86-DC8F1D8C3439@herculesengines.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
	<2413C69A-38B1-4352-AD86-DC8F1D8C3439@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinCJ+Rz2+ADQP2mt_oCJxb+H4xWmhk5JKQWVod2@mail.gmail.com>

On 6 September 2010 05:35, Keith Kinney <kkinney at herculesengines.com> wrote:
> It is a Waterloo built Economy, the predecessor of the Sparta Economy engines. ?A pretty uncommon engine.
> If you look at the Model A Sparta built engines you will see some similarities to the Waterloo.
> Keith

Thanks, Keith:

There is a second one that looks similar on picture 108.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk



From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Sun Sep  5 21:04:33 2010
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 00:04:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
Message-ID: <26901315.1283745875926.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Come to think of it Tommy, one of the oilers on the Bessie was a bit loose Friday morning of the show but I just thought it might have worked itself loose.  Could it be that I have made a mistake in letting a Royster get to close?

Tim

-----Original Message-----
>From: Judge Tommy Turner <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>Sent: Sep 5, 2010 1:24 PM
>To: 'The SEL email discussion list' <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
>
>Tim,
>	It all depends on whether those 2 little boys are named Mike and
>Steve...  I know when those 2 little boys come to my place I lock all
>the doors and keep the mags and oilers hid!
>
>Tommy Turner
>
>
>
>
>
>Would a person who bought a toy for 2 little boys at the charity auction
>be someone you would have to be leary of?  
>
>Tim Christoff
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Tim Christoff


From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Mon Sep  6 04:35:24 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:35:24 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Videos
Message-ID: <C8AB0F1C.59F2%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

I took at a few short clips of various engines at the Rusty Iron Rally.
These are at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQuJci-Fsew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il7nsPI3KuM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi258rj9fFM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrBpKvZEAhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDAndh12XX0

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From Germoamer at aol.com  Mon Sep  6 07:19:00 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 10:19:00 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
Message-ID: <57fdf.73f05d55.39b65254@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 9/6/2010 12:45:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
kkinney at herculesengines.com writes:

It is a  Waterloo built Economy


I didn't know that Waterloo had built the early Economy's. 
 
Thanks to everyone.  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Sep  6 07:56:34 2010
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 10:56:34 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
In-Reply-To: <2413C69A-38B1-4352-AD86-DC8F1D8C3439@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <B934142152BC485ABDA56588AF5ED456@D2JYVHJ1>

Keith,

     Just curious, how long did Waterloo build for Economy?  I think
I've seen a few of these style Economy's in the past but they're
certainly few and far between.

Tommy Turner



It is a Waterloo built Economy, the predecessor of the Sparta Economy
engines.  A pretty uncommon engine.
If you look at the Model A Sparta built engines you will see some
similarities to the Waterloo.
Keith






From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Sep  6 08:00:39 2010
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:00:39 -0400
Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
In-Reply-To: <26901315.1283745875926.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <0B34C9B42F1E4C809BA52D31502AF128@D2JYVHJ1>

Exactly Tim!

Tommy Turner


PS:  Everyone (especially any new folks on the List), please know that
we are ribbing the Royster boys to the hilt.  I'd trust them with
anything I've got. (well, maybe I'm going a little overboard....grin).


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Christoff
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 12:05 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!

Come to think of it Tommy, one of the oilers on the Bessie was a bit
loose Friday morning of the show but I just thought it might have worked
itself loose.  Could it be that I have made a mistake in letting a
Royster get to close?

Tim





From rob at rustyiron.com  Mon Sep  6 08:45:36 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 08:45:36 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Portland report
In-Reply-To: <4C844554.5030906@atis.net>
References: <4C844554.5030906@atis.net>
Message-ID: <579CCB42-C817-46D7-82E0-277E84F98190@rustyiron.com>


On Sep 5, 2010, at 6:35 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:

>  Where do I even start?
>


Where do I click the "like" button?






From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  6 09:18:58 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 09:18:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Portland report
In-Reply-To: <579CCB42-C817-46D7-82E0-277E84F98190@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <859188.76224.qm@web111714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

On YouTube.
I was the FIRST.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Mon, 9/6/10, Rob Skinner <rob at rustyiron.com> wrote:


From: Rob Skinner <rob at rustyiron.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland report
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Monday, September 6, 2010, 11:45 AM



On Sep 5, 2010, at 6:35 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:

>? Where do I even start?
>


Where do I click the "like" button?




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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Sep  6 13:55:30 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 16:55:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
References: <0B34C9B42F1E4C809BA52D31502AF128@D2JYVHJ1>
Message-ID: <000601cb4e05$d7e0ad60$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

You boys are a riot!   You would be proud to know Steve stopped by today and 
I showed him the "Girlie engine tarp" and we decided to share it and 
alternate years and engines.  If Russell comes back over we will let him use 
it as well.  I can see this artwork traveling much like the blue handled 
fence pliers or the John Deere china.

MR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!


> Exactly Tim!
>
> Tommy Turner
>
>
> PS:  Everyone (especially any new folks on the List), please know that
> we are ribbing the Royster boys to the hilt.  I'd trust them with
> anything I've got. (well, maybe I'm going a little overboard....grin).
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tim
> Christoff
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 12:05 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
>
> Come to think of it Tommy, one of the oilers on the Bessie was a bit
> loose Friday morning of the show but I just thought it might have worked
> itself loose.  Could it be that I have made a mistake in letting a
> Royster get to close?
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From avanti_64 at juno.com  Mon Sep  6 18:59:16 2010
From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 01:59:16 GMT
Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Re=3A__Mount_pleasant_is_over?=
Message-ID: <20100906.215916.26616.0@webmail02.vgs.untd.com>

Peter, we had a ball! Great to see you again and meet your son! It was great sharing info and discussions with all the guys...
Can't wait till the next one!!! 
Joe Kelley

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From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Mon Sep  6 20:14:37 2010
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 22:14:37 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
In-Reply-To: <B934142152BC485ABDA56588AF5ED456@D2JYVHJ1>
References: <B934142152BC485ABDA56588AF5ED456@D2JYVHJ1>
Message-ID: <2EB58D0B-4EB7-4384-8626-D70CE9E4D972@herculesengines.com>

Tommy
They Waterloo built engines were advertised in the Fall 1908 and Spring 1909 Sear Catalogs.  Engines after that were built in Sparta, MI.
Keith

On Sep 6, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:

> Keith,
> 
>     Just curious, how long did Waterloo build for Economy?  I think
> I've seen a few of these style Economy's in the past but they're
> certainly few and far between.
> 
> Tommy Turner
> 
> 
> 
> It is a Waterloo built Economy, the predecessor of the Sparta Economy
> engines.  A pretty uncommon engine.
> If you look at the Model A Sparta built engines you will see some
> similarities to the Waterloo.
> Keith
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Keith Kinney
kkinney at herculesengines.com
WWW.HerculesEngines.com






From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Mon Sep  6 20:21:45 2010
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 22:21:45 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <B934142152BC485ABDA56588AF5ED456@D2JYVHJ1>
References: <B934142152BC485ABDA56588AF5ED456@D2JYVHJ1>
Message-ID: <68FE946C-D704-4726-A87D-CFB98D98ADBC@herculesengines.com>

Made a quick trip to Youngstown, Ohio this weekend to pick up a 12 HP Economy.  This makes a full set of Economy engines for us. It had a bastardized ignition system on it and upon getting it home we switched it out for an accurate Webster system.  It is a real horse of an engine with a huge amount of compression.  It runs real well with the new ignition system.  Here is a link to a video of it running.
 Economy 12 HP Hit and Miss Engine


Keith Kinney
kkinney at herculesengines.com
WWW.HerculesEngines.com





From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Mon Sep  6 20:29:56 2010
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 22:29:56 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <68FE946C-D704-4726-A87D-CFB98D98ADBC@herculesengines.com>
References: <B934142152BC485ABDA56588AF5ED456@D2JYVHJ1>
	<68FE946C-D704-4726-A87D-CFB98D98ADBC@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <888FAD4C-1DAD-4C7C-8C1F-016DB2A85F71@herculesengines.com>

OK, here's the link, sorry:
Economy 12 HP Hit and Miss Engine

On Sep 6, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Keith Kinney wrote:

> Made a quick trip to Youngstown, Ohio this weekend to pick up a 12 HP Economy.  This makes a full set of Economy engines for us. It had a bastardized ignition system on it and upon getting it home we switched it out for an accurate Webster system.  It is a real horse of an engine with a huge amount of compression.  It runs real well with the new ignition system.  Here is a link to a video of it running.
> Economy 12 HP Hit and Miss Engine
> 
> 
> Keith Kinney
> kkinney at herculesengines.com
> WWW.HerculesEngines.com
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Keith Kinney
kkinney at herculesengines.com
WWW.HerculesEngines.com





From plowe at exemail.com.au  Mon Sep  6 20:44:10 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:44:10 +1000
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <888FAD4C-1DAD-4C7C-8C1F-016DB2A85F71@herculesengines.com>
References: <B934142152BC485ABDA56588AF5ED456@D2JYVHJ1><68FE946C-D704-4726-A87D-CFB98D98ADBC@herculesengines.com>
	<888FAD4C-1DAD-4C7C-8C1F-016DB2A85F71@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <64839ED28EEB49DAAF7464EE7879DA7E@PeterPC>

You gonna try again Keith, nothing this end.
Peter

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Keith Kinney" <kkinney at herculesengines.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:29 PM
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] 12 HP Economy

> OK, here's the link, sorry:
> Economy 12 HP Hit and Miss Engine
>
> On Sep 6, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Keith Kinney wrote:
>
>> Made a quick trip to Youngstown, Ohio this weekend to pick up a 12 HP 
>> Economy.  This makes a full set of Economy engines for us. It had a 
>> bastardized ignition system on it and upon getting it home we switched it 
>> out for an accurate Webster system.  It is a real horse of an engine with 
>> a huge amount of compression.  It runs real well with the new ignition 
>> system.  Here is a link to a video of it running.
>> Economy 12 HP Hit and Miss Engine
>>
>>
>> Keith Kinney
>> kkinney at herculesengines.com
>> WWW.HerculesEngines.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> Keith Kinney
> kkinney at herculesengines.com
> WWW.HerculesEngines.com
>
>
>
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From christison at coastalnet.com  Mon Sep  6 20:51:24 2010
From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:51:24 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <888FAD4C-1DAD-4C7C-8C1F-016DB2A85F71@herculesengines.com>
References: <B934142152BC485ABDA56588AF5ED456@D2JYVHJ1>	<68FE946C-D704-4726-A87D-CFB98D98ADBC@herculesengines.com>
	<888FAD4C-1DAD-4C7C-8C1F-016DB2A85F71@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <4C85B6BC.3060107@coastalnet.com>

  Perhaps this is it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVi-DSaLtkM

On 9/6/2010 11:29 PM, Keith Kinney wrote:
> Economy 12 HP Hit and Miss Engine



From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Mon Sep  6 21:04:59 2010
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 23:04:59 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <4C85B6BC.3060107@coastalnet.com>
References: <B934142152BC485ABDA56588AF5ED456@D2JYVHJ1>	<68FE946C-D704-4726-A87D-CFB98D98ADBC@herculesengines.com>
	<888FAD4C-1DAD-4C7C-8C1F-016DB2A85F71@herculesengines.com>
	<4C85B6BC.3060107@coastalnet.com>
Message-ID: <7BE75A74-6BF6-4675-8246-77BC172F4CFC@herculesengines.com>

That's it, thanks Ken.  I don't know what I was doing wrong but it didn't include my link.    I've also uploaded some photos to Flickr.  Here's the link but if it doesn't work do a search for Economy 12 HP Hit and Miss Engine or user "HerculesEconomy".
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41076215 at N02/sets/72157624897281142/

Keith


On Sep 6, 2010, at 10:51 PM, Ken Christison wrote:

>  Perhaps this is it:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVi-DSaLtkM
> 
> On 9/6/2010 11:29 PM, Keith Kinney wrote:
>> Economy 12 HP Hit and Miss Engine
> 
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WWW.HerculesEngines.com






From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  7 03:24:09 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 03:24:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
In-Reply-To: <2EB58D0B-4EB7-4384-8626-D70CE9E4D972@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <177077.32511.qm@web111718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Really,
My reprint 1908 Sears catalog does not say Spring or Fall.
All it seems to have for Gasoline?Engines?are some marine engines.
Next is a page of steam engines and boilers.
This is a reprint but it seems to be complete.
Do you have a real 1908 Fall catalog?
I would like to know what page the Waterloo built Economy engines are on.
?
Alan

--- On Mon, 9/6/10, Keith Kinney <kkinney at herculesengines.com> wrote:


From: Keith Kinney <kkinney at herculesengines.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Monday, September 6, 2010, 11:14 PM


Tommy
They Waterloo built engines were advertised in the Fall 1908 and Spring 1909 Sear Catalogs.? Engines after that were built in Sparta, MI.
Keith

On Sep 6, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:

> Keith,
> 
>? ???Just curious, how long did Waterloo build for Economy?? I think
> I've seen a few of these style Economy's in the past but they're
> certainly few and far between.
> 
> Tommy Turner
> 
> 
> 
> It is a Waterloo built Economy, the predecessor of the Sparta Economy
> engines.? A pretty uncommon engine.
> If you look at the Model A Sparta built engines you will see some
> similarities to the Waterloo.
> Keith
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Keith Kinney
kkinney at herculesengines.com
WWW.HerculesEngines.com




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From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue Sep  7 04:47:14 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 07:47:14 EDT
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
Message-ID: <120131.32a37770.39b78042@aol.com>

Keith,
 
Congrats on the 12 hp Economy.  Great engine! Nice looking drip  oiler on 
top too!  I see it has a choke plug inside the carb to make it run  good 
without having to close the external choke plate.   

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Sep  7 07:35:16 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:35:16 +0200
Subject: [SEL] A great gift
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100907142246.01e8da58@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi All,
         Somewhere along the way I must have done something good because 
this weekend at our show I was given a tremendous gift.

         One of our oldest (not in age but in experience) collectors 
presented me with his almost complete collection of "Stationary Engine 
Magazine". He started buying them at issue 13 and stopped about 2 years ago.

         He was now looking for a new home for them and chose me. Wow what 
a treasure trove!!

         As you know, I'm still a newbie to the hobby so to get all those 
back issues is really fantastic.

         Just one more reason that I always say that "Enginemen (and their 
ladies) are the greatest"


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>  

From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Sep  7 08:14:16 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:14:16 +0200
Subject: [SEL] International LB mixer.
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100907170957.01e8c1e0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi All,
         A friend just found an International LB but the tank and mixer are 
missing. The tank is easy to fabricate locally but does anyone have a spare 
mixer (and maybe a few more parts) for sale?

         A suppliers name would also be a good.

Many thanks,


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>  

From mr at carolina.rr.com  Tue Sep  7 12:39:44 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 15:39:44 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
References: <120131.32a37770.39b78042@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000701cb4ec4$6c4244f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Can't wait to see it in person!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Germoamer at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] 12 HP Economy


> Keith,
>
> Congrats on the 12 hp Economy.  Great engine! Nice looking drip  oiler on
> top too!  I see it has a choke plug inside the carb to make it run  good
> without having to close the external choke plate.
>
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord,  Va.
> germoamer at AOL.com
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep  7 14:49:43 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:49:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <000701cb4ec4$6c4244f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <120131.32a37770.39b78042@aol.com>
	<000701cb4ec4$6c4244f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <260a4e277b2ea39ef2e4a8d0a26dfb92.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Mike, Even better, plan to be a part of the SEL Biggun Line-Up at Portland 2011.

The plan is to have a row with an example of the biggest engine in each engine line.
For example, Keith would bring a 12 hp Economy and a 12 hp Hercules.  Steve would
bring a 10 hp IHC "M", Dave would bring a 16 hp Galloway, etc.

Do you have any bigguns?  If so plan to bring 'em to Portland 2011.

See ya,  Arnie

On Tue, September 7, 2010 3:39 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> Can't wait to see it in person!
>




From George_Best at adp.com  Tue Sep  7 15:06:45 2010
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:06:45 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <260a4e277b2ea39ef2e4a8d0a26dfb92.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <120131.32a37770.39b78042@aol.com>
	<000701cb4ec4$6c4244f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
	<260a4e277b2ea39ef2e4a8d0a26dfb92.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F463DFE19@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Will the biggest Maytag be welcome in your lineup? ;-)

Maybe you'll want a minimum hp size for your lineup or you may have more small engines in your lineup than large engines.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:50 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] 12 HP Economy

Mike, Even better, plan to be a part of the SEL Biggun Line-Up at Portland 2011.

The plan is to have a row with an example of the biggest engine in each engine line.
For example, Keith would bring a 12 hp Economy and a 12 hp Hercules.  Steve would
bring a 10 hp IHC "M", Dave would bring a 16 hp Galloway, etc.

Do you have any bigguns?  If so plan to bring 'em to Portland 2011.

See ya,  Arnie

On Tue, September 7, 2010 3:39 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> Can't wait to see it in person!
>


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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  7 15:22:45 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 15:22:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <260a4e277b2ea39ef2e4a8d0a26dfb92.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <506459.24931.qm@web111721.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Sorry Arnie but I don't think I could convince the rest of the folks at The Buckley club to load up our Snow engine and take it anywhere.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Tue, 9/7/10, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:


From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 5:49 PM


Mike, Even better, plan to be a part of the SEL Biggun Line-Up at Portland 2011.

The plan is to have a row with an example of the biggest engine in each engine line.
For example, Keith would bring a 12 hp Economy and a 12 hp Hercules.? Steve would
bring a 10 hp IHC "M", Dave would bring a 16 hp Galloway, etc.

Do you have any bigguns?? If so plan to bring 'em to Portland 2011.

See ya,? Arnie

On Tue, September 7, 2010 3:39 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> Can't wait to see it in person!
>


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From George_Best at adp.com  Tue Sep  7 15:38:02 2010
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:38:02 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
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Alan,

Don't worry.  Your 1100hp Snow wouldn't qualify.  Snow made a couple 5000hp engines.

Remember this isn't a lineup of your biggest engine, it's a lineup of the biggest engines from each engine line.

Of course you could get technical and maybe Snow had different lines of engines and you could slip your little Snow in as the biggest in that specific line.

Which is why I'd prefer seeing the biggest engine from each manufacturer, not breaking it down to biggest of a line.  Of course biggest of a line does make it so more Maytags will qualify.  You know..... largest twin cylinder Maytag, largest single cylinder Maytag, largest vertical Maytag ;-)

George

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Alan
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:23 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] 12 HP Economy

Sorry Arnie but I don't think I could convince the rest of the folks at The Buckley club to load up our Snow engine and take it anywhere.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Tue, 9/7/10, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:


From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 5:49 PM


Mike, Even better, plan to be a part of the SEL Biggun Line-Up at Portland 2011.

The plan is to have a row with an example of the biggest engine in each engine line.
For example, Keith would bring a 12 hp Economy and a 12 hp Hercules.? Steve would
bring a 10 hp IHC "M", Dave would bring a 16 hp Galloway, etc.

Do you have any bigguns?? If so plan to bring 'em to Portland 2011.

See ya,? Arnie

On Tue, September 7, 2010 3:39 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> Can't wait to see it in person!
>


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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Tue Sep  7 15:56:49 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 08:56:49 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Re:  Mount pleasant is over
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Hi Joe
We had a ball mate, god to catch up with you again.
Pete

> Peter, we had a ball! Great to see you again and meet your son! It was 
> great sharing info and discussions with all the guys...
> Can't wait till the next one!!!
> Joe Kelley
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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  7 16:11:37 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:11:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F46433276@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
Message-ID: <103185.89408.qm@web111707.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Cool, Who has one of those 5000 HP Snow engines?
I want to see it.
?
Alan

--- On Tue, 9/7/10, Best, George <George_Best at adp.com> wrote:


From: Best, George <George_Best at adp.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 6:38 PM


Alan,

Don't worry.? Your 1100hp Snow wouldn't qualify.? Snow made a couple 5000hp engines.

Remember this isn't a lineup of your biggest engine, it's a lineup of the biggest engines from each engine line.

Of course you could get technical and maybe Snow had different lines of engines and you could slip your little Snow in as the biggest in that specific line.

Which is why I'd prefer seeing the biggest engine from each manufacturer, not breaking it down to biggest of a line.? Of course biggest of a line does make it so more Maytags will qualify.? You know..... largest twin cylinder Maytag, largest single cylinder Maytag, largest vertical Maytag ;-)

George

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Alan
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:23 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] 12 HP Economy

Sorry Arnie but I don't think I could convince the rest of the folks at The Buckley club to load up our Snow engine and take it anywhere.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Tue, 9/7/10, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:


From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 5:49 PM


Mike, Even better, plan to be a part of the SEL Biggun Line-Up at Portland 2011.

The plan is to have a row with an example of the biggest engine in each engine line.
For example, Keith would bring a 12 hp Economy and a 12 hp Hercules.? Steve would
bring a 10 hp IHC "M", Dave would bring a 16 hp Galloway, etc.

Do you have any bigguns?? If so plan to bring 'em to Portland 2011.

See ya,? Arnie

On Tue, September 7, 2010 3:39 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> Can't wait to see it in person!
>


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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Tue Sep  7 16:36:41 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 19:36:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
References: <120131.32a37770.39b78042@aol.com><000701cb4ec4$6c4244f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
	<260a4e277b2ea39ef2e4a8d0a26dfb92.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <001201cb4ee5$869d3c80$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Been trying to acquie a 10 and/or 16 horse Sta-Rite for years.  Who 
knows..........

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] 12 HP Economy


> Mike, Even better, plan to be a part of the SEL Biggun Line-Up at Portland 
> 2011.
>
> The plan is to have a row with an example of the biggest engine in each 
> engine line.
> For example, Keith would bring a 12 hp Economy and a 12 hp Hercules. 
> Steve would
> bring a 10 hp IHC "M", Dave would bring a 16 hp Galloway, etc.
>
> Do you have any bigguns?  If so plan to bring 'em to Portland 2011.
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> On Tue, September 7, 2010 3:39 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
>> Can't wait to see it in person!
>>
>
>
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From rob at rustyiron.com  Tue Sep  7 17:12:57 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:12:57 -0700
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
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On Sep 7, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Best, George wrote:
> Which is why I'd prefer seeing the biggest engine from each  
> manufacturer, not breaking it down to biggest of a line.  Of course  
> biggest of a line does make it so more Maytags will qualify.  You  
> know..... largest twin cylinder Maytag, largest single cylinder  
> Maytag, largest vertical Maytag ;-)

No Maytags need apply, as Arnie will be showing his Farrar & Trefts  
Maytag-cycle motor.





From rotigel at me.com  Tue Sep  7 19:42:02 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:42:02 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
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On Sep 7, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Rob Skinner wrote:

>
> On Sep 7, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Best, George wrote:
>> Which is why I'd prefer seeing the biggest engine from each
>> manufacturer, not breaking it down to biggest of a line.  Of course
>> biggest of a line does make it so more Maytags will qualify.  You
>> know..... largest twin cylinder Maytag, largest single cylinder
>> Maytag, largest vertical Maytag ;-)
>
> No Maytags need apply, as Arnie will be showing his Farrar & Trefts
> Maytag-cycle motor.

I'm hoping that Craig will be able to bring his ENGINE. It is indeed  
the LARGEST of all Maytags! See: http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/maytag/maytag_fun.html 
  for "Craig and his 40 HP Maytag!"
	Dave



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep  7 20:33:38 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:33:38 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F463DFE19@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
References: <120131.32a37770.39b78042@aol.com>
	<000701cb4ec4$6c4244f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
	<260a4e277b2ea39ef2e4a8d0a26dfb92.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F463DFE19@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
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You mean Craig Prucha's 40 hp oilfield Maytag?
http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/maytag/Big_maytag2.jpg

You bet it will be welcome "on the line."

See ya,  Arnie

PS - Biggest is biggest.  We don't discriminate.

On Tue, September 7, 2010 6:06 pm, Best, George wrote:
> Will the biggest Maytag be welcome in your lineup? ;-)
>
> Maybe you'll want a minimum hp size for your lineup or you may have more small
> engines in your lineup than large engines.




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep  7 20:44:37 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:44:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
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I didn't think it was the biggest in the Snow line...

On Tue, September 7, 2010 6:22 pm, Alan wrote:
> Sorry Arnie but I don't think I could convince the rest of the folks at The Buckley
> club to load up our Snow engine and take it anywhere.




From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Tue Sep  7 21:12:47 2010
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:12:47 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
In-Reply-To: <177077.32511.qm@web111718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <177077.32511.qm@web111718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <09B1D042-5E6C-429A-8176-A5A5AD23ED22@herculesengines.com>

Alan
I don't have the original catalog.  I'm getting my information from Glenn Karch's book on Sparta Economy engines.  He has a chapter devoted to the Waterloo built engines.  He does have a copy of one of the pages from the catalogue and it is from Catalogue No. 118 and is on page 480.
Keith


On Sep 7, 2010, at 5:24 AM, Alan wrote:

> Really,
> My reprint 1908 Sears catalog does not say Spring or Fall.
> All it seems to have for Gasoline Engines are some marine engines.
> Next is a page of steam engines and boilers.
> This is a reprint but it seems to be complete.
> Do you have a real 1908 Fall catalog?
> I would like to know what page the Waterloo built Economy engines are on.
>  
> Alan
> 
> --- On Mon, 9/6/10, Keith Kinney <kkinney at herculesengines.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Keith Kinney <kkinney at herculesengines.com>
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: Monday, September 6, 2010, 11:14 PM
> 
> 
> Tommy
> They Waterloo built engines were advertised in the Fall 1908 and Spring 1909 Sear Catalogs.  Engines after that were built in Sparta, MI.
> Keith
> 
> On Sep 6, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:
> 
>> Keith,
>> 
>>      Just curious, how long did Waterloo build for Economy?  I think
>> I've seen a few of these style Economy's in the past but they're
>> certainly few and far between.
>> 
>> Tommy Turner
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It is a Waterloo built Economy, the predecessor of the Sparta Economy
>> engines.  A pretty uncommon engine.
>> If you look at the Model A Sparta built engines you will see some
>> similarities to the Waterloo.
>> Keith
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> Keith Kinney
> kkinney at herculesengines.com
> WWW.HerculesEngines.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From rob at rustyiron.com  Tue Sep  7 23:11:35 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:11:35 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Reg Ingold
Message-ID: <C1287432-AF2E-4595-90DA-6BF686F070DA@rustyiron.com>

Anyone seen this Roo Eatin' Borsted?
If so, please ask him what flight he's going to be on.
I'd like to know what airport I'm supposed to drive to.

Thx.





From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Tue Sep  7 23:47:07 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 07:47:07 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
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On 5 September 2010 14:12, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5 September 2010 13:52, ?<Germoamer at aol.com> wrote:
>> I do not believe I have ever seen an Economy like this. ?Anybody know ?what
>> model it might be?
>>
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10011.htm
>>
>> Thanks for all the great pictures Peter!
>>
>> Tom ?Schmutz

We are still working through Portland Wednesday's captions and picture
pages, but there were some interesting items and engines at the show
this year.

The Doak Gas Engine, Grimm Woodworker Engine, Great Western Engine,
Puritan Engine etc were all new for me, and the Whore House Tokens
raised a laugh.

7 menu pages with 168 picture pages are now running on both sites:

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm

http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm

I'd appreciate some help with the items that have no ID on the pages, please.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
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http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk



From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  8 02:53:21 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 02:53:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
In-Reply-To: <09B1D042-5E6C-429A-8176-A5A5AD23ED22@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <629059.95311.qm@web111724.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Thanks, Keith.
Mine is Catalogue No. 117 and it is a 1908 so it must be the Spring one.
I bought it because a friend had one and it shows my Toy Electric Engine on page 208.
Page 480 in this one has Rope, Jacks, Block & Tackle and snatch blocks.
So far?I have not found anything with an Economy name in this catalog.
There are a lot of Kenwood named things.
?
Alan

--- On Wed, 9/8/10, Keith Kinney <kkinney at herculesengines.com> wrote:


From: Keith Kinney <kkinney at herculesengines.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2010, 12:12 AM


Alan
I don't have the original catalog.? I'm getting my information from Glenn Karch's book on Sparta Economy engines.? He has a chapter devoted to the Waterloo built engines.? He does have a copy of one of the pages from the catalogue and it is from Catalogue No. 118 and is on page 480.
Keith


On Sep 7, 2010, at 5:24 AM, Alan wrote:

> Really,
> My reprint 1908 Sears catalog does not say Spring or Fall.
> All it seems to have for Gasoline Engines are some marine engines.
> Next is a page of steam engines and boilers.
> This is a reprint but it seems to be complete.
> Do you have a real 1908 Fall catalog?
> I would like to know what page the Waterloo built Economy engines are on.
>? 
> Alan
> 
> --- On Mon, 9/6/10, Keith Kinney <kkinney at herculesengines.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Keith Kinney <kkinney at herculesengines.com>
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: Monday, September 6, 2010, 11:14 PM
> 
> 
> Tommy
> They Waterloo built engines were advertised in the Fall 1908 and Spring 1909 Sear Catalogs.? Engines after that were built in Sparta, MI.
> Keith
> 
> On Sep 6, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:
> 
>> Keith,
>> 
>>? ? ? Just curious, how long did Waterloo build for Economy?? I think
>> I've seen a few of these style Economy's in the past but they're
>> certainly few and far between.
>> 
>> Tommy Turner
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It is a Waterloo built Economy, the predecessor of the Sparta Economy
>> engines.? A pretty uncommon engine.
>> If you look at the Model A Sparta built engines you will see some
>> similarities to the Waterloo.
>> Keith
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> Keith Kinney
> kkinney at herculesengines.com
> WWW.HerculesEngines.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From dtallman at accnorwalk.com  Wed Sep  8 05:07:27 2010
From: dtallman at accnorwalk.com (Doug Tallman)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:07:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C877C7F.6060903@accnorwalk.com>

Peter, the thumbnail menu page 4 doesn't seem to work right on 
oldengine.org. Doug T
>
> We are still working through Portland Wednesday's captions and picture
> pages, but there were some interesting items and engines at the show
> this year.
>
> The Doak Gas Engine, Grimm Woodworker Engine, Great Western Engine,
> Puritan Engine etc were all new for me, and the Whore House Tokens
> raised a laugh.
>
> 7 menu pages with 168 picture pages are now running on both sites:
>
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm
>
> I'd appreciate some help with the items that have no ID on the pages, please.
>
> Peter
>   


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Sep  8 06:06:41 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:06:41 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <4C877C7F.6060903@accnorwalk.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C877C7F.6060903@accnorwalk.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=WDeb=1wX6M2i+f8Lpc7QzHctW0mM4P3Df_aTz@mail.gmail.com>

On 8 September 2010 13:07, Doug Tallman <dtallman at accnorwalk.com> wrote:
> Peter, the thumbnail menu page 4 doesn't seem to work right on
> oldengine.org. Doug T

Doug:

We have a batch of images missing, so use the UK server for now, I'll
upload a fresh set tonight from home to Oldengine.org/

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Sep  8 06:02:02 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:02:02 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <4C877C7F.6060903@accnorwalk.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C877C7F.6060903@accnorwalk.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinorTwwJgabf+R4F0X1MmLvQNG7sy53sNjF15LA@mail.gmail.com>

On 8 September 2010 13:07, Doug Tallman <dtallman at accnorwalk.com> wrote:
> Peter, the thumbnail menu page 4 doesn't seem to work right on
> oldengine.org. Doug T

Thanks, Doug, I'll check it when I get back home tonight.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Sep  8 06:21:22 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:21:22 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <4C877C7F.6060903@accnorwalk.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C877C7F.6060903@accnorwalk.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=nR6dqMpS-rKjxtrnHyHEffUXgF1ZzAoMO0sNv@mail.gmail.com>

On 8 September 2010 13:07, Doug Tallman <dtallman at accnorwalk.com> wrote:
> Peter, the thumbnail menu page 4 doesn't seem to work right on
> oldengine.org. Doug T

All sorted, I was able to copy from the UK server across to
Oldengine.org via my office PC which has an FTP programme on it.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From marinesurveys at msn.com  Wed Sep  8 06:42:28 2010
From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:42:28 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=WDeb=1wX6M2i+f8Lpc7QzHctW0mM4P3Df_aTz@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>,
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>,
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4C877C7F.6060903@accnorwalk.com>,
	<AANLkTi=WDeb=1wX6M2i+f8Lpc7QzHctW0mM4P3Df_aTz@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <COL106-W65B22DF8438DE5AE710441B4720@phx.gbl>




 Peter;
Just great pix of the Portland Show, I noticed that there were some engines for sale.
I have a friend thats looking for a 1 to 3 HP marine Hit & Miss engine, might you
have any ideas that come to mind, or Names & contact info in that regard ?
 
                  Best Regards
             
           Franklin S. Skinner 
      Marine Surveyor & Consultant 
3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 
       34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West 
PH 910-791-8870  Cell 910-612-7470





 
> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:06:41 +0100
> From: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures
> 
> On 8 September 2010 13:07, Doug Tallman <dtallman at accnorwalk.com> wrote:
> > Peter, the thumbnail menu page 4 doesn't seem to work right on
> > oldengine.org. Doug T
> 
> Doug:
> 
> We have a batch of images missing, so use the UK server for now, I'll
> upload a fresh set tonight from home to Oldengine.org/
> 
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm
> 
> Peter
> -- 
> Peter A Forbes
> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
> http://stationary-engine.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.co.uk
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep  8 08:19:45 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:19:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <COL106-W65B22DF8438DE5AE710441B4720@phx.gbl>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>,
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>,
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4C877C7F.6060903@accnorwalk.com>,
	<AANLkTi=WDeb=1wX6M2i+f8Lpc7QzHctW0mM4P3Df_aTz@mail.gmail.com>
	<COL106-W65B22DF8438DE5AE710441B4720@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <898890473568431a1e3559ecbc12827f.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Frank,

Your friend NEEDS to go to Portland.  That sale area is VAST!

If his interest is in marine engines, he should go to the show at Mystic Seaport in
Connecticut just before Portland.  That's all marine engines.  Just ask the Louisana
posse that attends both shows every year.

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, September 8, 2010 9:42 am, frank skinner wrote:
>  Peter;
> Just great pix of the Portland Show, I noticed that there were some engines for
> sale.
> I have a friend thats looking for a 1 to 3 HP marine Hit & Miss engine, might you
> have any ideas that come to mind, or Names & contact info in that regard ?




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Sep  8 09:16:27 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:16:27 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <COL106-W65B22DF8438DE5AE710441B4720@phx.gbl>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C877C7F.6060903@accnorwalk.com>
	<AANLkTi=WDeb=1wX6M2i+f8Lpc7QzHctW0mM4P3Df_aTz@mail.gmail.com>
	<COL106-W65B22DF8438DE5AE710441B4720@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinORs+-55bWrA6-7sA2QipG121QbpNYWZDNaAG6@mail.gmail.com>

On 8 September 2010 14:42, frank skinner <marinesurveys at msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> ?Peter;
> Just great pix of the Portland Show, I noticed that there were some engines for sale.
> I have a friend thats looking for a 1 to 3 HP marine Hit & Miss engine, might you
> have any ideas that come to mind, or Names & contact info in that regard ?
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Best Regards
>
> ? ? ? ? ? Franklin S. Skinner

J B Castagnos is a good contact for anything old and marine:

jbcast at charter.net

He is on the lists and may well pick up your request, but second what
Arnie says, there's nothing like actually being there and seeing for
yourself!

Peter
-- 
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk



From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Wed Sep  8 11:50:26 2010
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:50:26 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Reg Ingold
In-Reply-To: <C1287432-AF2E-4595-90DA-6BF686F070DA@rustyiron.com>
References: <C1287432-AF2E-4595-90DA-6BF686F070DA@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <COL112-W109E8B8E873C98A4F4F3BF95720@phx.gbl>


So Rob, You've lost our Roo Eater?   I hear Mike gave him a pocket full of those whorehouse  tokens so I'd check your local red light district!  Steve
 
> From: rob at rustyiron.com
> To: randmingold at hotkey.net.au; stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:11:35 -0700
> Subject: [SEL] Reg Ingold
> 
> Anyone seen this Roo Eatin' Borsted?
> If so, please ask him what flight he's going to be on.
> I'd like to know what airport I'm supposed to drive to.
> 
> Thx.
> 
> 
> 
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep  8 12:35:35 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:35:35 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Reg Ingold
In-Reply-To: <COL112-W109E8B8E873C98A4F4F3BF95720@phx.gbl>
References: <C1287432-AF2E-4595-90DA-6BF686F070DA@rustyiron.com>
	<COL112-W109E8B8E873C98A4F4F3BF95720@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0ba5562a1491ccd180fccca2fe095fde.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

ROFLMAO!!!  When we warned Reg at Portland that such "athletic" activity could be
fatal; his reply was:  "If she dies, she dies."  Said with his customary leer...

On Wed, September 8, 2010 2:50 pm, Steve Royster wrote:
>
> So Rob, You've lost our Roo Eater?   I hear Mike gave him a pocket full of those
> whorehouse  tokens so I'd check your local red light district!  Steve





From Germoamer at aol.com  Wed Sep  8 14:01:41 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:01:41 EDT
Subject: [SEL] M engine
Message-ID: <99e10.170e2186.39b953b5@aol.com>

1927 International M engine
 
Anyone know if the DuPont #84155 or the DIT (PPG) # 40496 are still good  
numbers for the IH-M green engine paint?  Numbers from Wendel's  Notebook.
 
Thanks,  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From ddotto at cableone.net  Wed Sep  8 17:47:40 2010
From: ddotto at cableone.net (Dave Otto)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 18:47:40 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com><AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>

Hi Peter

Thanks for sharing the great pictures from the Portland show.
By any chance do you have any more of the Falk on the 4th page #80? I would
like to see the other side of the engine.

It appears that the crank has been repaired or replaced; maybe this is the
engine Tommy purchased a few years ago in Canada with a broken crank?

Best regards,
Dave


Dave Otto
Boise, Idaho
USA



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:47 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures

On 5 September 2010 14:12, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5 September 2010 13:52, ?<Germoamer at aol.com> wrote:
>> I do not believe I have ever seen an Economy like this. ?Anybody know
?what
>> model it might be?
>>
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10011.htm
>>
>> Thanks for all the great pictures Peter!
>>
>> Tom ?Schmutz

We are still working through Portland Wednesday's captions and picture
pages, but there were some interesting items and engines at the show
this year.

The Doak Gas Engine, Grimm Woodworker Engine, Great Western Engine,
Puritan Engine etc were all new for me, and the Whore House Tokens
raised a laugh.

7 menu pages with 168 picture pages are now running on both sites:

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm

http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm

I'd appreciate some help with the items that have no ID on the pages,
please.

Peter
-- 
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Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
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From christison at coastalnet.com  Wed Sep  8 18:02:38 2010
From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:02:38 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Ads and trade cards
Message-ID: <4C88322E.4040807@coastalnet.com>

  I have been researching a company located at Springfield, Ohio, and just ran
into a great page of ads and trade cards that might be of interest.  Only a
few engine related, but still a neat collection.

http://www.springfieldohiohistory.net/adstradecards.htm

Take care.

Ken




From rotigel at me.com  Wed Sep  8 18:04:37 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:04:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
	<F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>
Message-ID: <C0CC57BE-3F19-46F2-8151-7107AFC4F089@me.com>


On Sep 8, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Dave Otto wrote:

> Hi Peter
>
> Thanks for sharing the great pictures from the Portland show.
> By any chance do you have any more of the Falk on the 4th page #80?  
> I would
> like to see the other side of the engine.

Hi Dave, If you rotate the picture 180 degrees that should do it!
	Dave


From rotigel at me.com  Wed Sep  8 18:19:02 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:19:02 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Ads and trade cards
In-Reply-To: <4C88322E.4040807@coastalnet.com>
References: <4C88322E.4040807@coastalnet.com>
Message-ID: <81C6DA39-6B07-45F3-8481-FA960DDF3D69@me.com>

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! THANKS Ken!
	Dave

On Sep 8, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Ken Christison wrote:

>  I have been researching a company located at Springfield, Ohio, and  
> just ran
> into a great page of ads and trade cards that might be of interest.   
> Only a
> few engine related, but still a neat collection.
>
> http://www.springfieldohiohistory.net/adstradecards.htm
>
> Take care.
>
> Ken


From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Wed Sep  8 18:17:20 2010
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 21:17:20 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Ads and trade cards
In-Reply-To: <4C88322E.4040807@coastalnet.com>
Message-ID: <E75A09A7A2414D83A502C54A6469D0BD@D2JYVHJ1>

Very neat Ken.

Tommy Turner



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Ken
Christison
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 9:03 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: [SEL] Ads and trade cards

  I have been researching a company located at Springfield, Ohio, and
just ran
into a great page of ads and trade cards that might be of interest.
Only a
few engine related, but still a neat collection.

http://www.springfieldohiohistory.net/adstradecards.htm

Take care.

Ken


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From ddotto at cableone.net  Wed Sep  8 18:35:11 2010
From: ddotto at cableone.net (Dave Otto)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:35:11 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <C0CC57BE-3F19-46F2-8151-7107AFC4F089@me.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com><AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com><F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>
	<C0CC57BE-3F19-46F2-8151-7107AFC4F089@me.com>
Message-ID: <5BDC36F979EF47629744090B3FFF1722@shop>

Dave

Thanks for the tip; I tried this and all the water ran out; I still could
not see the other side of the engine :-(


The other Dave


Dave Otto
Boise, Idaho
USA




-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 7:05 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures


On Sep 8, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Dave Otto wrote:

> Hi Peter
>
> Thanks for sharing the great pictures from the Portland show.
> By any chance do you have any more of the Falk on the 4th page #80?  
> I would
> like to see the other side of the engine.

Hi Dave, If you rotate the picture 180 degrees that should do it!
	Dave
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From rotigel at me.com  Wed Sep  8 18:41:31 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:41:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <5BDC36F979EF47629744090B3FFF1722@shop>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
	<F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>
	<C0CC57BE-3F19-46F2-8151-7107AFC4F089@me.com>
	<5BDC36F979EF47629744090B3FFF1722@shop>
Message-ID: <75D9B97D-056B-4BF6-A7BF-45F453200178@me.com>

DARN!!!!!
	Dave

On Sep 8, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Dave Otto wrote:

> Dave
>
> Thanks for the tip; I tried this and all the water ran out; I still  
> could
> not see the other side of the engine :-(
>
>
> The other Dave
>
>
> Dave Otto
> Boise, Idaho
> USA
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David  
> Rotigel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 7:05 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures
>
>
> On Sep 8, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Dave Otto wrote:
>
>> Hi Peter
>>
>> Thanks for sharing the great pictures from the Portland show.
>> By any chance do you have any more of the Falk on the 4th page #80?
>> I would
>> like to see the other side of the engine.
>
> Hi Dave, If you rotate the picture 180 degrees that should do it!
> 	Dave
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From frappi at wcoil.com  Wed Sep  8 19:07:09 2010
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:07:09 -0400
Subject: [SEL] M engine
In-Reply-To: <99e10.170e2186.39b953b5@aol.com>
References: <99e10.170e2186.39b953b5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20100909020709.8FFEC9388@smtp.wcoil.com>


Hi Tom,
I do not know for sure but I would not be afraid to bet yes. Try your 
local DuPont dealer first. If they say no don't stop, Call Speckman 
Auto Supply 419.394.2345   Ask for Bubba. I know they still mix 
Centari despite many dealers saying its no longer available. They 
just don't mix it themselves.  Speckman will UPS Paint anywhere in 
the US.  The other older systems are still available, DuPont still 
makes most of them, just gotta find a dealer who still mixes 
it.  Speckman would know who.    Mark



At 05:01 PM 9/8/2010, you wrote:
>1927 International M engine
>
>Anyone know if the DuPont #84155 or the DIT (PPG) # 40496 are still good
>numbers for the IH-M green engine paint?  Numbers from Wendel's  Notebook.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Tom  Schmutz
>Concord,  Va.
>germoamer at AOL.com
>_______________________________________________
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>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com  



From dleis at centurytel.net  Wed Sep  8 19:49:24 2010
From: dleis at centurytel.net (Stacy Leis)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 21:49:24 -0500
Subject: [SEL] M engine
In-Reply-To: <20100909020709.8FFEC9388@smtp.wcoil.com>
References: <99e10.170e2186.39b953b5@aol.com>
	<20100909020709.8FFEC9388@smtp.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <1B9650D2C88D4D3892691C9D1CEE578A@OwnerPC>

Hi Tom
Adirondack green -DuPont# 84155  I had some mixed up in spray cans from 
http://www.towerpaint.com/I it seames to be good paint

stacy 




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Thu Sep  9 00:24:07 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 08:24:07 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
	<F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinciG-wWVYMeh33D6Oo1dBs-RfLpw7qH83VorM7@mail.gmail.com>

On 9 September 2010 01:47, Dave Otto <ddotto at cableone.net> wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> Thanks for sharing the great pictures from the Portland show.
> By any chance do you have any more of the Falk on the 4th page #80? I would
> like to see the other side of the engine.
>
> It appears that the crank has been repaired or replaced; maybe this is the
> engine Tommy purchased a few years ago in Canada with a broken crank?
>
> Best regards,
> Dave

I'll check the other shots and see if there is anything else available, Dave.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From Germoamer at aol.com  Thu Sep  9 04:05:44 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:05:44 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Ads and trade cards
Message-ID: <4fad.4d10ecf2.39ba1988@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/8/2010 9:05:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
christison at coastalnet.com writes:

a great  page of ads and trade cards that might be of interest. 
 
Ken,
 

Really neat stuff.  Wonder if any "Thomas" engines still exist?
 
Thanks,  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Sep  9 06:49:25 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:49:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Ads and trade cards
In-Reply-To: <4fad.4d10ecf2.39ba1988@aol.com>
References: <4fad.4d10ecf2.39ba1988@aol.com>
Message-ID: <b42d26260789dfbb74045b4d2b3ab195.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Tom,

You must not have grandkids.  My grandson is "Thomas mad" and must have over 50
Thomas engines.  8-))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_the_Tank_Engine

See ya,  Arnie

On Thu, September 9, 2010 7:05 am, Germoamer at aol.com wrote:
>
> Really neat stuff.  Wonder if any "Thomas" engines still exist?





From Germoamer at aol.com  Thu Sep  9 06:55:12 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:55:12 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Ads and trade cards
Message-ID: <d1a3.34cf7ae.39ba4140@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 9/9/2010 9:46:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
fero_ah at city-net.com writes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_the_Tank_Engine


Its old age sinking in, I had forgotten about Thomas the train!
 
Thanks,  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From ddotto at cableone.net  Thu Sep  9 08:56:24 2010
From: ddotto at cableone.net (Dave Otto)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:56:24 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinciG-wWVYMeh33D6Oo1dBs-RfLpw7qH83VorM7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com><AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com><F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>
	<AANLkTinciG-wWVYMeh33D6Oo1dBs-RfLpw7qH83VorM7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FD0A8B9CC59A4A84B7792ADADA5D9414@shop>

Thanks Peter.

Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 1:24 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures

On 9 September 2010 01:47, Dave Otto <ddotto at cableone.net> wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> Thanks for sharing the great pictures from the Portland show.
> By any chance do you have any more of the Falk on the 4th page #80? I
would
> like to see the other side of the engine.
>
> It appears that the crank has been repaired or replaced; maybe this is the
> engine Tommy purchased a few years ago in Canada with a broken crank?
>
> Best regards,
> Dave

I'll check the other shots and see if there is anything else available,
Dave.

Peter
-- 
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Thu Sep  9 09:57:23 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:57:23 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1284048002.6431.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100909184954.01e27b68@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 09/09/2010, you wrote:
>Message: 10
>Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:35:11 -0600
>From: "Dave Otto" <ddotto at cableone.net>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures
>To: "'The SEL email discussion list'"
>         <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Dave
>
>Thanks for the tip; I tried this and all the water ran out; I still could
>not see the other side of the engine :-(
>The other Dave
>
>Dave Otto
>Boise, Idaho
>USA

Hi Dave(O),
         We all know Dave(R). It was late at night and his fingers did not 
actually type what his brain was saying !!

         I'm sure that he meant "mirror" - or "flip horizontal" and not 
"rotate". Try that and I'm sure the water will not run out !!! :-)

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>  

From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Thu Sep  9 14:19:55 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:19:55 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
	<F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=h7EYt5EqD3xNNHOV9WoRe2b23D7uv6guoK_=h@mail.gmail.com>

On 9 September 2010 01:47, Dave Otto <ddotto at cableone.net> wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> Thanks for sharing the great pictures from the Portland show.
> By any chance do you have any more of the Falk on the 4th page #80? I would
> like to see the other side of the engine.
>
> It appears that the crank has been repaired or replaced; maybe this is the
> engine Tommy purchased a few years ago in Canada with a broken crank?
>
> Best regards,
> Dave

Dave:

We took three shots, and used the one on the website, but they were
all from the same side.

Two things:

One: I don't think Tommy has had his hands on this one, it is not good
enough to have been Tommys work if you know what I mean.

Two:  The label on the cylinder head bears the following writing:

"Falk 3hp Engine, sleeved cylinder, re-done valves + seat, re-built
ignitor,  new gas tank, comes w/mag and bracket, $9850.00 B.O. or
trades"

Hope that is of some use to you.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From ddotto at cableone.net  Fri Sep 10 07:05:34 2010
From: ddotto at cableone.net (Dave Otto)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:05:34 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=h7EYt5EqD3xNNHOV9WoRe2b23D7uv6guoK_=h@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com><AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com><F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>
	<AANLkTi=h7EYt5EqD3xNNHOV9WoRe2b23D7uv6guoK_=h@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <789AF57D66F44E669699FC1907D99B24@shop>

Hi Peter 

Thanks for checking; Tommy did have a barn fresh 3hp Falk with a broken
crank. I think he did sell that engine before any work was done on it. I
thought this may have been that same engine but I guess not.

It seems that the crank is the weak link on these engines; I best be careful
with mine when I go to start it.

I have seen pictures of two or three of these engines with broken
crankshafts.

Best regards,
Dave





-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 3:20 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures

On 9 September 2010 01:47, Dave Otto <ddotto at cableone.net> wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> Thanks for sharing the great pictures from the Portland show.
> By any chance do you have any more of the Falk on the 4th page #80? I
would
> like to see the other side of the engine.
>
> It appears that the crank has been repaired or replaced; maybe this is the
> engine Tommy purchased a few years ago in Canada with a broken crank?
>
> Best regards,
> Dave

Dave:

We took three shots, and used the one on the website, but they were
all from the same side.

Two things:

One: I don't think Tommy has had his hands on this one, it is not good
enough to have been Tommys work if you know what I mean.

Two:  The label on the cylinder head bears the following writing:

"Falk 3hp Engine, sleeved cylinder, re-done valves + seat, re-built
ignitor,  new gas tank, comes w/mag and bracket, $9850.00 B.O. or
trades"

Hope that is of some use to you.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
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From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Fri Sep 10 10:49:42 2010
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:49:42 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland Engine Videos
Message-ID: <SNT118-W253AE6BD1972EFECE6F91AC8740@phx.gbl>


I have uploaded some of the engine videos I took while at Portland.   Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-r3JitF8d8
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsBCpzGWOZE
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5GrPP8voCo
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS__Gknl1A0
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q04DWoJnfo
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbCb0YVUlwE

Luke Tonneberger
Rockford, Michigan
USA 

 		 	   		  

From cgandree at mchsi.com  Sat Sep 11 05:31:01 2010
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 07:31:01 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
Message-ID: <473174890.1702481284208261457.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

Looking for some words of wisdom on my Delco Light Plant.  Trying to start the engine but seems like I am not getting gas to the carb.  On my model the gas tank is below the carb so after taking the fuel lines off to check for blockage of which there was none discovered that there was no check valve.  I cleaned out the old gas and thoughrly checked for some sort of check valve that might of fallen off into the tank but none to be found.  Last time I ran the plant was about a year ago and it started and ran soomthly. My question is were they supposed to have had a check valve or is gas sucked out of the tank by some sort of vacuum when the engine runs?  Any help would greatly be appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
Curt Andree


From edstoller at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 11 08:14:26 2010
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed Stoller)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:14:26 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Auction tuesday,Vestal NY
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com><AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com><F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop><AANLkTi=h7EYt5EqD3xNNHOV9WoRe2b23D7uv6guoK_=h@mail.gmail.com>
	<789AF57D66F44E669699FC1907D99B24@shop>
Message-ID: <00F9835F1A9C4FFBB356791A225CE2BE@edlaptop>


http://www.mapesauction.com/N9.14.10.htm




From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 11 10:21:33 2010
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 12:21:33 -0500
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
References: <473174890.1702481284208261457.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
Message-ID: <204A09F336F74A55BC10985352094D70@PAUL>

Curt send it to me and I will get it running and send it back to you.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <cgandree at mchsi.com>
To: "SEL Lists" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:31 AM
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED


> Looking for some words of wisdom on my Delco Light Plant.  Trying to start 
> the engine but seems like I am not getting gas to the carb.  On my model 
> the gas tank is below the carb so after taking the fuel lines off to check 
> for blockage of which there was none discovered that there was no check 
> valve.  I cleaned out the old gas and thoughrly checked for some sort of 
> check valve that might of fallen off into the tank but none to be found. 
> Last time I ran the plant was about a year ago and it started and ran 
> soomthly. My question is were they supposed to have had a check valve or 
> is gas sucked out of the tank by some sort of vacuum when the engine runs? 
> Any help would greatly be appreciated.
> Thank you in advance.
> Curt Andree
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 11 10:46:12 2010
From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 10:46:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <204A09F336F74A55BC10985352094D70@PAUL>
Message-ID: <728726.90949.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I've got a Delco 32 volt also and have never ran it. Concerned about the voltage and if its necessary to have 32 volts to run it. Any help along these lines will be much appreciated.

?Ron Perma Frost  ??http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos  ?  ?

--- On Sat, 9/11/10, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 1:21 PM

Curt send it to me and I will get it running and send it back to you.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <cgandree at mchsi.com>
To: "SEL Lists" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:31 AM
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED


> Looking for some words of wisdom on my Delco Light Plant.? Trying to start 
> the engine but seems like I am not getting gas to the carb.? On my model 
> the gas tank is below the carb so after taking the fuel lines off to check 
> for blockage of which there was none discovered that there was no check 
> valve.? I cleaned out the old gas and thoughrly checked for some sort of 
> check valve that might of fallen off into the tank but none to be found. 
> Last time I ran the plant was about a year ago and it started and ran 
> soomthly. My question is were they supposed to have had a check valve or 
> is gas sucked out of the tank by some sort of vacuum when the engine runs? 
> Any help would greatly be appreciated.
> Thank you in advance.
> Curt Andree
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From no1djc at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 11 12:18:17 2010
From: no1djc at hotmail.com (David Carter)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:18:17 +0000
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <473174890.1702481284208261457.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
References: <473174890.1702481284208261457.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
Message-ID: <BAY156-w1D47000CF60F5D00B4F0492750@phx.gbl>


Hello Curt,
       Sign up and ask here:-
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=dbeba0c893d08a88a3117357301a93e3&f=6
 Look for "Delco Don" Wiley, has all the records to date Delcos and has service and parts manuals.
When I had a 32v Delco, he was very helpful.
Regards, DJC.

 		 	   		  

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Sep 11 13:01:34 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:01:34 -0400
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <728726.90949.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <728726.90949.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f19dbfb6606dea08d08712b5f702d8f2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Ron,

My Delco light plant runs with three 12v automotive cooling fans in series as a 36v
load.  It works great.  The fans have really large fan blades and are mounted in
wooden box frames with hardware cloth over the openings.  With longish electrical
cords, the three fans can be spread out and provide a really nice breeze on hot show
days.  I don't know if it's necessary to have a load on a light plant or not.

See ya,  Arnie

On Sat, September 11, 2010 1:46 pm, Ron Frost wrote:
> I've got a Delco 32 volt also and have never ran it. Concerned about the voltage and
> if its necessary to have 32 volts to run it. Any help along these lines will be much
> appreciated.





From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 11 13:14:59 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:14:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <f19dbfb6606dea08d08712b5f702d8f2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <238925.7586.qm@web111714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

The one I have is an auto start Delco light plant.
You turn on the motor and the engine starts.
The friend that I bought it from says it must have a load to run it.
Back?in it's working days the load was a bank of batteries.
I got it with some 32 Volt light bulbs, a power hack saw with a 32 Volt motor plus another 32 Volt motor on an old pump and a small sink for the water.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sat, 9/11/10, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:


From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 4:01 PM


Hi Ron,

My Delco light plant runs with three 12v automotive cooling fans in series as a 36v
load.? It works great.? The fans have really large fan blades and are mounted in
wooden box frames with hardware cloth over the openings.? With longish electrical
cords, the three fans can be spread out and provide a really nice breeze on hot show
days.? I don't know if it's necessary to have a load on a light plant or not.

See ya,? Arnie

On Sat, September 11, 2010 1:46 pm, Ron Frost wrote:
> I've got a Delco 32 volt also and have never ran it. Concerned about the voltage and
> if its necessary to have 32 volts to run it. Any help along these lines will be much
> appreciated.



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From rotigel at me.com  Sat Sep 11 15:24:41 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:24:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <728726.90949.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <728726.90949.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D7C16EFC-9AE2-4E51-AAF8-1B4743C8FF55@me.com>

The light plant PRODUCES 32 volts Ron.
	Dave

On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Ron Frost wrote:

> I've got a Delco 32 volt also and have never ran it. Concerned about  
> the voltage and if its necessary to have 32 volts to run it. Any  
> help along these lines will be much appreciated.
>
>  Ron Perma Frost    http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos
>
> --- On Sat, 9/11/10, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net 
> > wrote:
>
> From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 1:21 PM
>
> Curt send it to me and I will get it running and send it back to you.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <cgandree at mchsi.com>
> To: "SEL Lists" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:31 AM
> Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
>
>
>> Looking for some words of wisdom on my Delco Light Plant.  Trying  
>> to start
>> the engine but seems like I am not getting gas to the carb.  On my  
>> model
>> the gas tank is below the carb so after taking the fuel lines off  
>> to check
>> for blockage of which there was none discovered that there was no  
>> check
>> valve.  I cleaned out the old gas and thoughrly checked for some  
>> sort of
>> check valve that might of fallen off into the tank but none to be  
>> found.
>> Last time I ran the plant was about a year ago and it started and ran
>> soomthly. My question is were they supposed to have had a check  
>> valve or
>> is gas sucked out of the tank by some sort of vacuum when the  
>> engine runs?
>> Any help would greatly be appreciated.
>> Thank you in advance.
>> Curt Andree
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
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>
>
>
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From cgandree at mchsi.com  Sat Sep 11 16:04:21 2010
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:04:21 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <BAY156-w1D47000CF60F5D00B4F0492750@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <172756138.1759521284246260973.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

Yes Dave C, I have tried to contact Delco Don but his phone number doesn't seem to work any more. Concerned that his bad health may of gotten worse.  He had orginally come out to my farm and helped me 5 yrs ago then we lost contact.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Carter" <no1djc at hotmail.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 2:18:17 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED


Hello Curt,
       Sign up and ask here:-
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=dbeba0c893d08a88a3117357301a93e3&f=6
 Look for "Delco Don" Wiley, has all the records to date Delcos and has service and parts manuals.
When I had a 32v Delco, he was very helpful.
Regards, DJC.

 		 	   		  
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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 11 17:09:52 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 17:09:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <D7C16EFC-9AE2-4E51-AAF8-1B4743C8FF55@me.com>
Message-ID: <926731.86310.qm@web111722.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Yes Dave, Mine uses a six Volt battery to start it.
I should have mentioned that.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sat, 9/11/10, David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:


From: David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 6:24 PM


The light plant PRODUCES 32 volts Ron.
??? Dave

On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Ron Frost wrote:

> I've got a Delco 32 volt also and have never ran it. Concerned about? 
> the voltage and if its necessary to have 32 volts to run it. Any? 
> help along these lines will be much appreciated.
>
>? Ron Perma Frost? ? http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos
>
> --- On Sat, 9/11/10, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net 
> > wrote:
>
> From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 1:21 PM
>
> Curt send it to me and I will get it running and send it back to you.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <cgandree at mchsi.com>
> To: "SEL Lists" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:31 AM
> Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
>
>
>> Looking for some words of wisdom on my Delco Light Plant.? Trying? 
>> to start
>> the engine but seems like I am not getting gas to the carb.? On my? 
>> model
>> the gas tank is below the carb so after taking the fuel lines off? 
>> to check
>> for blockage of which there was none discovered that there was no? 
>> check
>> valve.? I cleaned out the old gas and thoughrly checked for some? 
>> sort of
>> check valve that might of fallen off into the tank but none to be? 
>> found.
>> Last time I ran the plant was about a year ago and it started and ran
>> soomthly. My question is were they supposed to have had a check? 
>> valve or
>> is gas sucked out of the tank by some sort of vacuum when the? 
>> engine runs?
>> Any help would greatly be appreciated.
>> Thank you in advance.
>> Curt Andree
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From jbcast at charter.net  Sat Sep 11 19:18:44 2010
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:18:44 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Portland Engine Videos
In-Reply-To: <SNT118-W253AE6BD1972EFECE6F91AC8740@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20100911221844.F84CS.1262140.root@mp16>


---- Luke Tonneberger <flywheelin at hotmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> I have uploaded some of the engine videos I took while at Portland.   Enjoy!
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-r3JitF8d8
>  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsBCpzGWOZE
>  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5GrPP8voCo
>  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS__Gknl1A0
>  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q04DWoJnfo
>  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbCb0YVUlwE
> 
> Luke Tonneberger

Thanks for the videos Luke. It takes me a while to get co-ordination to reverse my Fisherman marine engine on the spark if I haven't run it recently, but it did OK in the video. This engine was manufactured by Domestic, the side shaft and face cam are similar, has two lobes on the cam for reversing.
J.B. Castagnos
Belle Rose, LA.


From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 12 04:11:03 2010
From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 04:11:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <926731.86310.qm@web111722.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <913786.83433.qm@web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Thanks folks. Now I'm going to have to dig it out and see about seeing if it will run.?? I've had it for quite a while and can't remember that much about it. 

?Ron Perma Frost  ??http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos  ?  ?

--- On Sat, 9/11/10, Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 8:09 PM

Yes Dave, Mine uses a six Volt battery to start it.
I should have mentioned that.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sat, 9/11/10, David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:


From: David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 6:24 PM


The light plant PRODUCES 32 volts Ron.
??? Dave

On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Ron Frost wrote:

> I've got a Delco 32 volt also and have never ran it. Concerned about? 
> the voltage and if its necessary to have 32 volts to run it. Any? 
> help along these lines will be much appreciated.
>
>? Ron Perma Frost? ? http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos
>
> --- On Sat, 9/11/10, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net 
> > wrote:
>
> From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 1:21 PM
>
> Curt send it to me and I will get it running and send it back to you.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <cgandree at mchsi.com>
> To: "SEL Lists" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:31 AM
> Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
>
>
>> Looking for some words of wisdom on my Delco Light Plant.? Trying? 
>> to start
>> the engine but seems like I am not getting gas to the carb.? On my? 
>> model
>> the gas tank is below the carb so after taking the fuel lines off? 
>> to check
>> for blockage of which there was none discovered that there was no? 
>> check
>> valve.? I cleaned out the old gas and thoughrly checked for some? 
>> sort of
>> check valve that might of fallen off into the tank but none to be? 
>> found.
>> Last time I ran the plant was about a year ago and it started and ran
>> soomthly. My question is were they supposed to have had a check? 
>> valve or
>> is gas sucked out of the tank by some sort of vacuum when the? 
>> engine runs?
>> Any help would greatly be appreciated.
>> Thank you in advance.
>> Curt Andree
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 12 05:16:47 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 05:16:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <913786.83433.qm@web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <755895.56942.qm@web111723.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I really hated to buy mine but my friend wanted to sell it.
It is just like the one he grew up with.
He had such a wonderful group of stories to tell folks.
If I hadn't bought it someone else surely would have.
?
Alan

--- On Sun, 9/12/10, Ron Frost <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Ron Frost <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 7:11 AM


Thanks folks. Now I'm going to have to dig it out and see about seeing if it will run.?? I've had it for quite a while and can't remember that much about it. 

?Ron Perma Frost? ??http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos? ?? ?

--- On Sat, 9/11/10, Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 8:09 PM

Yes Dave, Mine uses a six Volt battery to start it.
I should have mentioned that.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sat, 9/11/10, David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:


From: David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 6:24 PM


The light plant PRODUCES 32 volts Ron.
??? Dave

On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Ron Frost wrote:

> I've got a Delco 32 volt also and have never ran it. Concerned about? 
> the voltage and if its necessary to have 32 volts to run it. Any? 
> help along these lines will be much appreciated.
>
>? Ron Perma Frost? ? http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos
>
> --- On Sat, 9/11/10, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net 
> > wrote:
>
> From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 1:21 PM
>
> Curt send it to me and I will get it running and send it back to you.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <cgandree at mchsi.com>
> To: "SEL Lists" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:31 AM
> Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
>
>
>> Looking for some words of wisdom on my Delco Light Plant.? Trying? 
>> to start
>> the engine but seems like I am not getting gas to the carb.? On my? 
>> model
>> the gas tank is below the carb so after taking the fuel lines off? 
>> to check
>> for blockage of which there was none discovered that there was no? 
>> check
>> valve.? I cleaned out the old gas and thoughrly checked for some? 
>> sort of
>> check valve that might of fallen off into the tank but none to be? 
>> found.
>> Last time I ran the plant was about a year ago and it started and ran
>> soomthly. My question is were they supposed to have had a check? 
>> valve or
>> is gas sucked out of the tank by some sort of vacuum when the? 
>> engine runs?
>> Any help would greatly be appreciated.
>> Thank you in advance.
>> Curt Andree
>> _______________________________________________
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>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
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From cgandree at mchsi.com  Sun Sep 12 05:49:46 2010
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 07:49:46 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <755895.56942.qm@web111723.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1833517545.1793031284295785892.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

Alan,
If yours is a Model 850 could you please take a look at the fuel line going into the tank and see if there is supposed to be some sort of check valve.  Or any one else that has that model.
thanks,
Curt Andree
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan" <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:16:47 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED

I really hated to buy mine but my friend wanted to sell it.
It is just like the one he grew up with.
He had such a wonderful group of stories to tell folks.
If I hadn't bought it someone else surely would have.
?
Alan

--- On Sun, 9/12/10, Ron Frost <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Ron Frost <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 7:11 AM


Thanks folks. Now I'm going to have to dig it out and see about seeing if it will run.?? I've had it for quite a while and can't remember that much about it. 

?Ron Perma Frost? ??http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos? ?? ?

--- On Sat, 9/11/10, Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 8:09 PM

Yes Dave, Mine uses a six Volt battery to start it.
I should have mentioned that.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sat, 9/11/10, David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:


From: David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 6:24 PM


The light plant PRODUCES 32 volts Ron.
??? Dave

On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Ron Frost wrote:

> I've got a Delco 32 volt also and have never ran it. Concerned about? 
> the voltage and if its necessary to have 32 volts to run it. Any? 
> help along these lines will be much appreciated.
>
>? Ron Perma Frost? ? http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos
>
> --- On Sat, 9/11/10, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net 
> > wrote:
>
> From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 1:21 PM
>
> Curt send it to me and I will get it running and send it back to you.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <cgandree at mchsi.com>
> To: "SEL Lists" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:31 AM
> Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
>
>
>> Looking for some words of wisdom on my Delco Light Plant.? Trying? 
>> to start
>> the engine but seems like I am not getting gas to the carb.? On my? 
>> model
>> the gas tank is below the carb so after taking the fuel lines off? 
>> to check
>> for blockage of which there was none discovered that there was no? 
>> check
>> valve.? I cleaned out the old gas and thoughrly checked for some? 
>> sort of
>> check valve that might of fallen off into the tank but none to be? 
>> found.
>> Last time I ran the plant was about a year ago and it started and ran
>> soomthly. My question is were they supposed to have had a check? 
>> valve or
>> is gas sucked out of the tank by some sort of vacuum when the? 
>> engine runs?
>> Any help would greatly be appreciated.
>> Thank you in advance.
>> Curt Andree
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 12 11:16:29 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:16:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <1833517545.1793031284295785892.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
Message-ID: <461115.86969.qm@web111701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Wow, I have hardly looked at it after I found room for it in my engine trailer.
Will you please give me a hint where to look for a model number?
That would be great to know for future communication.
Alan

--- On Sun, 9/12/10, cgandree at mchsi.com <cgandree at mchsi.com> wrote:


From: cgandree at mchsi.com <cgandree at mchsi.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 8:49 AM


Alan,
If yours is a Model 850 could you please take a look at the fuel line going into the tank and see if there is supposed to be some sort of check valve.? Or any one else that has that model.
thanks,
Curt Andree

?
?

?

From no1djc at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 12 13:35:35 2010
From: no1djc at hotmail.com (David Carter)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 20:35:35 +0000
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <1833517545.1793031284295785892.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
References: <755895.56942.qm@web111723.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,
	<1833517545.1793031284295785892.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
Message-ID: <BAY156-w60DE862F035B21CF304BDD92760@phx.gbl>


Curt,
   No check valve is needed.  Vacuum, engine side of the rotating mixer slide, draws fuel up through the pipe and through a pre-drilled jet in the mixer casting. Check the slide is the correct way round. Closed at 10 o'clock, fully open at 2 o'clock, rotationally speaking.
Engine side of the slide, the mixer casting has a jet drilled in the bottom of the circular "reservoir". 
 
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2494317430054098493CNqulm

 This should have a felt pad in it. To start the engine, flood the felt pad with petrol, move the slide to start, and crank the engine.
The pad supplies fuel to the engine until fuel is drawn up the pipe from the tank. With petrol in the fuel tank the engine should run set at "1", and as it warms up move the slide clockwise to increase the intake of air increased revs. You may have to keep squirting petrol on to the pad several times until the engine warms up if you are using paraffin (Kerosine?) in the fuel tank.
To stop the engine, fully open the slide clockwise. When the engine stops, the fuel drains back to the tank. 

 

Fuel won't be drawn up if the slide is too far open. 

After a few starts you will get the hang of it.

 

Enjoy!

 

 

Regards, DJC 
 
 
 
 
 
> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 07:49:46 -0500
> From: cgandree at mchsi.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
> 
> Alan,
> If yours is a Model 850 could you please take a look at the fuel line going into the tank and see if there is supposed to be some sort of check valve. Or any one else that has that model.
> thanks,
> Curt Andree

 		 	   		  

From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Sep 13 01:32:13 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:32:13 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Ruston & Hornsby 1ZHR at Barleylands
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=tS78raUqkhz6qG4CsKvgekMYFJoq3tGP0AF7r@mail.gmail.com>

We took the Ruston the the Essex Country Show at Barleylands, near
Billericay, Essex at the weekend.

Had a fault in the alternator which stopped up from loading it for
much of the time, but it ran 8 hours non-stop on the Sunday, just
oiling and water topping up required, it was off load so didn't use as
much fuel as usual.

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Barleylands1.jpg

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Barleylands2.jpg

Got to pull the armature out today and see what has caused the Magic
Smoke to escape, it looks like a major connection as we lost the AC
output and the DC starting.

The control box was a little 'drunk' and leaning a bit!

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From cgandree at mchsi.com  Mon Sep 13 03:41:17 2010
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 05:41:17 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <BAY156-w60DE862F035B21CF304BDD92760@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <441750703.1897231284374477035.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

Dave,
I am not sure where that felt pad is supposed to go.  When I take out that plug it has a screen fastened to the bottom with no evidence of a pad. Can you send me a detailed pic of the felt pad and where it goes please.
thanks,
Curt



----- Original Message -----
From: "David Carter" <no1djc at hotmail.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:35:35 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED


Curt,
   No check valve is needed.  Vacuum, engine side of the rotating mixer slide, draws fuel up through the pipe and through a pre-drilled jet in the mixer casting. Check the slide is the correct way round. Closed at 10 o'clock, fully open at 2 o'clock, rotationally speaking.
Engine side of the slide, the mixer casting has a jet drilled in the bottom of the circular "reservoir". 
 
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2494317430054098493CNqulm

 This should have a felt pad in it. To start the engine, flood the felt pad with petrol, move the slide to start, and crank the engine.
The pad supplies fuel to the engine until fuel is drawn up the pipe from the tank. With petrol in the fuel tank the engine should run set at "1", and as it warms up move the slide clockwise to increase the intake of air increased revs. You may have to keep squirting petrol on to the pad several times until the engine warms up if you are using paraffin (Kerosine?) in the fuel tank.
To stop the engine, fully open the slide clockwise. When the engine stops, the fuel drains back to the tank. 

 

Fuel won't be drawn up if the slide is too far open. 

After a few starts you will get the hang of it.

 

Enjoy!

 

 

Regards, DJC 
 
 
 
 
 
> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 07:49:46 -0500
> From: cgandree at mchsi.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
> 
> Alan,
> If yours is a Model 850 could you please take a look at the fuel line going into the tank and see if there is supposed to be some sort of check valve. Or any one else that has that model.
> thanks,
> Curt Andree

 		 	   		  
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Mon Sep 13 10:44:38 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:44:38 +0200
Subject: [SEL] New manual added
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100913193351.00e0abc0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys 'n Gals,
         We picked up a 16 H.P. Campbell Horizontal this weekend (not mine, 
I'm not Rockafella I'm the "other Fella"). It came with its original 
Instruction booklet which I have scanned and added to my manuals page here:

<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/manuals/index.htm>

         This is for the Campbell OIL Engine made in Cardiff, Wales - not 
the one from Halifax, England (I think they were known as the Campbell GAS 
Engine).

         Pics and webpage of the engine will follow soon.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>  

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Sep 13 11:19:36 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:19:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Ruston & Hornsby 1ZHR at Barleylands
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=tS78raUqkhz6qG4CsKvgekMYFJoq3tGP0AF7r@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=tS78raUqkhz6qG4CsKvgekMYFJoq3tGP0AF7r@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <209aa83eed03c147e3b18627fc883e0a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

She's lookin' GOOD Peter!!

On Mon, September 13, 2010 4:32 am, Listerdiesel wrote:
> We took the Ruston the the Essex Country Show at Barleylands, near
> Billericay, Essex at the weekend.
>
> http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Barleylands1.jpg
> http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Barleylands2.jpg





From no1djc at hotmail.com  Mon Sep 13 13:05:23 2010
From: no1djc at hotmail.com (David Carter)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:05:23 +0000
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <441750703.1897231284374477035.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
References: <BAY156-w60DE862F035B21CF304BDD92760@phx.gbl>,
	<441750703.1897231284374477035.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
Message-ID: <BAY156-w63F697FC5C8A4C5497574B92770@phx.gbl>


  Curt,

     The felt pad fits in the circular recess positioned between the plugged filter/jet chamber and the rotating slide. I held mine in with a "C" clip.   ........ http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2327259350104310933efkZAb

 

Regards, Dave.

 

 
> Dave,
> I am not sure where that felt pad is supposed to go. When I take out that plug it has a screen fastened to the bottom with no evidence of a pad. Can you send me a detailed pic of the felt pad and where it goes please.
> thanks,
> Curt
 		 	   		  

From jerrye at databak.co.za  Mon Sep 13 13:40:14 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 22:40:14 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates
In-Reply-To: <69AA4DF9229E4343BAE9063292824311@HOUSE>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100913222326.00e1e918@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>

At 10:04 PM 13/09/2010, you wrote:
>Hi Jerry
>Are you the bloke (fella) (man) that does brass engine plates?
>I have a mate that needs one for a Pelapone PA.
>What is the process to get one made please? He doesn't have the original.
>And sorry, I apologise if I have got the wrong person.
>Best wishes
>Ted Domeney
>Tasmania, Australia.


Hi Ted,
         Yes, I assume that I'm that bloke/fella/guy/man !!!!!

         (We have corresponded previously). :-)

         I do need a pic to copy from (and do not have one!) but that's 
where these lists are so great. Someone (a member) is bound to be able to 
provide something that I can copy.

         (I've copied this to the 2 greatest engine lists on the .net so 
lets see what we get !!

         Please remember that I ONLY make "etched" plates - no chance of 
"Cast Plates" here.


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>  

From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Tue Sep 14 00:37:15 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:37:15 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
Message-ID: <C8B5634B.5AFD%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

I hope to catch up with a few list members at our rally this weekend. I
still have the big R&V loaded from Macksville but I am working on a couple
of little engines to accompany it this weekend.
See you all there,
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From camaned at iinet.net.au  Tue Sep 14 00:50:28 2010
From: camaned at iinet.net.au (Cam Grundy)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:50:28 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
In-Reply-To: <C8B5634B.5AFD%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <C8B5634B.5AFD%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44B56A1200D24F388A227939EA426AB8@CamPC>

See you there Patrick. Cam


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:37 PM
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally


>I hope to catch up with a few list members at our rally this weekend. I
> still have the big R&V loaded from Macksville but I am working on a couple
> of little engines to accompany it this weekend.
> See you all there,
> Patrick
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
>
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From mickc782 at hotmail.com  Tue Sep 14 01:54:53 2010
From: mickc782 at hotmail.com (michael christie)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:24:53 +1030
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
In-Reply-To: <C8B5634B.5AFD%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <C8B5634B.5AFD%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU129-W12250A80A6F6652760F0099D780@phx.gbl>


g'day patrick

my family will see you there too, first big road trip for the little one as well, should be exciting! should i bring an R&V?? or are you gunna flood the grounds with your family of R&V's!!

   cheers

         mick
 
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:37:15 +1000
> From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
> Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
> 
> I hope to catch up with a few list members at our rally this weekend. I
> still have the big R&V loaded from Macksville but I am working on a couple
> of little engines to accompany it this weekend.
> See you all there,
> Patrick
> 
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> 
> 
> 
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From brock at netspeed.com.au  Tue Sep 14 02:18:16 2010
From: brock at netspeed.com.au (Brock summerfield)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:18:16 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
In-Reply-To: <C8B5634B.5AFD%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <C8B5634B.5AFD%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A62406C4CA74402D985834DBF7C6A2B4@brockPC>

i ,ll be there going up friday cya,s there
Brock
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:37 PM
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally


>I hope to catch up with a few list members at our rally this weekend. I
> still have the big R&V loaded from Macksville but I am working on a couple
> of little engines to accompany it this weekend.
> See you all there,
> Patrick
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
>
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> 




From plowe at exemail.com.au  Tue Sep 14 04:10:21 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:10:21 +1000
Subject: [SEL] US Library contact wanted please
Message-ID: <2AF49D8D3E294A00B7E5A352F18A5F20@peterlowe>

Hi all
 I am after someone who is an avid library goer, studing at University in Illinois or working at Illinois university,  to help me.
I am trying to get some rare archived information from the rare books and manuscripts dept from the University of Illinois at Urbana - Champaign and on their web site I need to do the following:

To request an archived item through I-Share I need to profile a VuFind account.
1. It is asking for Borrower ID (Barcode Number)
2. The I-Share library with which you are affiliated, this can be any college or university in Illinois, see link below and look at th elist in the drop down menu.

https://vufind.carli.illinois.edu/vf-uiu/MyResearch/Account?followup=%2Fvf-uiu%2FRecord%2Fuiu_5960065%2FRequest%3FfollowupJS%3DshowTagForm%28%29

I only want those who can genuinely help to reply please at plowe at exemail.com.au OFF LIST. You have to know the Library system or be a member.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Skype name: ozengines

From cgandree at mchsi.com  Tue Sep 14 04:27:46 2010
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 06:27:46 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <BAY156-w63F697FC5C8A4C5497574B92770@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1900497948.2113691284463666624.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

Ok Dave, the felt did the trick. Will now put a c-clip in to retain it better. Engine getting fuel now.  Also having a problem with the starter switch not holding.  I have to hold on to the switch to keep it running.  Not sure if one of those contact levers are bent.  If you could take some detailed pics of your starter (with cover off) so I can better see if there is some sort of wear I sure would appreciate it or if you have some other suggestion.  Also what is your phone number so I can chat with you a bit.
Thanks again,
Curt





                                                                                                                                                       ----- Original Message -----
From: "David Carter" <no1djc at hotmail.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 3:05:23 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED


  Curt,

     The felt pad fits in the circular recess positioned between the plugged filter/jet chamber and the rotating slide. I held mine in with a "C" clip.   ........ http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2327259350104310933efkZAb

 

Regards, Dave.

 

 
> Dave,
> I am not sure where that felt pad is supposed to go. When I take out that plug it has a screen fastened to the bottom with no evidence of a pad. Can you send me a detailed pic of the felt pad and where it goes please.
> thanks,
> Curt
 		 	   		  
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From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Tue Sep 14 14:31:54 2010
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:31:54 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
Message-ID: <DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>

OK, we've done it before let's do it again.   A co-worker of mine has a nephew who is up for football player of the week from a local TV station.  Viewers are asked to log onto their web site and vote for their favorite player.  Here's the web site:
http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called "Player of the Week"  
The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds. Rushing, 3 TDs
Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".
It will allow one vote per computer.  I just voted and he has 38.5% of the vote.  Let's see if we can raise that number to over 50%.
Thanks.
Keith


Keith Kinney
kkinney at herculesengines.com
WWW.HerculesEngines.com





From mr at carolina.rr.com  Tue Sep 14 15:53:31 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:53:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <001c01cb545f$a79aafb0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

39.3
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Keith Kinney 
  To: The SEL email discussion list ; stationary-engine at oldengine.org ; t at mail45.atl.registeredsite.com 
  Cc: Antique tractor email discussion group 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:31 PM
  Subject: Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.


  OK, we've done it before let's do it again.   A co-worker of mine has a nephew who is up for football player of the week from a local TV station.  Viewers are asked to log onto their web site and vote for their favorite player.  Here's the web site:
  http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
  Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called "Player of the Week"  
  The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds. Rushing, 3 TDs
  Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".
  It will allow one vote per computer.  I just voted and he has 38.5% of the vote.  Let's see if we can raise that number to over 50%.
  Thanks.
  Keith




  Keith Kinney
  kkinney at herculesengines.com
  WWW.HerculesEngines.com







From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Tue Sep 14 16:06:45 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:06:45 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
In-Reply-To: <BLU129-W12250A80A6F6652760F0099D780@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C8B63D25.5B10%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

I am not sure what will be coming out with the big R&V yet. I will probably
load up the silver AL as it is always reliable. My other AL has a fuel
pickup issue that I may have time to fix this week and the BL keeps blowing
head gaskets. I may have fixed this and if I have it will go in the trailer.
If I give up on the little R&Vs I may put the old No.1 Eclipse on board as I
seem to have fixed its govenor problems (for now).
Looking forward to seeing everyone there. I will probably be out there
around lunchtime on Friday but will have to run away again as I am working
on Friday night :(
Patrick


On 14/9/10 6:54 PM, "michael christie" <mickc782 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> g'day patrick
> 
> my family will see you there too, first big road trip for the little one as
> well, should be exciting! should i bring an R&V?? or are you gunna flood the
> grounds with your family of R&V's!!
> 
>    cheers
> 
>          mick
>  
>> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:37:15 +1000
>> From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com
>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
>> Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
>> 
>> I hope to catch up with a few list members at our rally this weekend. I
>> still have the big R&V loaded from Macksville but I am working on a couple
>> of little engines to accompany it this weekend.
>> See you all there,
>> Patrick
>> 
>> Patrick M Livingstone
>> Leichhardt NSW
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>  
> _______________________________________________
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Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 14 17:07:54 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:07:54 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
Message-ID: <ab03115e3f39776deba8ab2c677a070e.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

I just made an interesting observation.

If you click on the website link as it appears in most of these reply emails, you
get to vote again.  From each of your computers.  So, go back into your trash folder
and vote each of these additional emails.

Gee, I feel just a Chicago Democrat ward heeler going out into the cemetery voting
the dead over and over.  As one infamous ward heeler once said:  "Bob was a faithful
party member; voted straight Democrat all his life.  Why should he stop now just
because he's dead?"  8-))

On Tue, September 14, 2010 6:53 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> 39.3
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Keith Kinney
>   To: The SEL email discussion list ; stationary-engine at oldengine.org ;
> t at mail45.atl.registeredsite.com
>   Cc: Antique tractor email discussion group
>   Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:31 PM
>   Subject: Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
>
>
>   OK, we've done it before let's do it again.   A co-worker of mine has a nephew who
> is up for football player of the week from a local TV station.  Viewers are asked
> to log onto their web site and vote for their favorite player.  Here's the web
> site:
>   http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
>   Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called "Player of the
> Week"
>   The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds. Rushing, 3 TDs
>   Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".
>   It will allow one vote per computer.  I just voted and he has 38.5% of the vote.
> Let's see if we can raise that number to over 50%.
>   Thanks.
>   Keith





From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Tue Sep 14 17:22:26 2010
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:22:26 -0500
Subject: [SEL] [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>
	<000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>
Message-ID: <720BAFF4-00E5-47C1-B229-1D7542ED90B5@herculesengines.com>

Dean
I respect your point of view. But, I think that the way these contests work is that people in them ask everyone they know to contact everyone they know to ask them to vote.  That's what happened here.  Logan's uncle ask everyone in our office to vote and tell their friends to vote too.  Just so happens that I know a lot of people all over the world. :-).
Keith
On Sep 14, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Dean VP wrote:

> Keith,
> 
> I'm not comfortable with this so I won't participate. Doesn't seem ethical to me. Aren't we supposed
> to be setting an example for the  next generations?
> 
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA
> "Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already
> have it." - Ronald Reagan
> "The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - Margaret
> Thatcher
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf
> Of Keith Kinney
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 2:32 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list; stationary-engine at oldengine.org; t at mail45.atl.registeredsite.com
> Cc: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
> 
> OK, we've done it before let's do it again.   A co-worker of mine has a nephew who is up for
> football player of the week from a local TV station.  Viewers are asked to log onto their web site
> and vote for their favorite player.  Here's the web site:
> http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
> Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called "Player of the Week"  
> The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds. Rushing, 3 TDs
> Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".
> It will allow one vote per computer.  I just voted and he has 38.5% of the vote.  Let's see if we
> can raise that number to over 50%.
> Thanks.
> Keith
> 
> 
> Keith Kinney
> kkinney at herculesengines.com
> WWW.HerculesEngines.com
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> AT mailing list
> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at
> 
> _______________________________________________
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Keith Kinney
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WWW.HerculesEngines.com






From rotigel at me.com  Tue Sep 14 20:29:00 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:29:00 -0700
Subject: [SEL] [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>
	<000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>
Message-ID: <006BE621-AD32-44FB-895B-DE24AF395053@me.com>

By Golly Darn DeanVP, This is the way that OBAMA was elected. What do  
you have against the kind of democracy that OBAMA stands for? Don't  
you like black people, or what?
	Dave

On Sep 14, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Dean VP wrote:

> Keith,
>
> I'm not comfortable with this so I won't participate. Doesn't seem  
> ethical to me. Aren't we supposed
> to be setting an example for the  next generations?
>
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA
> "Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it  
> and hell where they already
> have it." - Ronald Reagan
> "The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other  
> people's money." - Margaret
> Thatcher
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com 
> ] On Behalf
> Of Keith Kinney
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 2:32 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list; stationary-engine at oldengine.org; t at mail45.atl.registeredsite.com
> Cc: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
>
> OK, we've done it before let's do it again.   A co-worker of mine  
> has a nephew who is up for
> football player of the week from a local TV station.  Viewers are  
> asked to log onto their web site
> and vote for their favorite player.  Here's the web site:
> http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
> Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called  
> "Player of the Week"
> The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds.  
> Rushing, 3 TDs
> Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".
> It will allow one vote per computer.  I just voted and he has 38.5%  
> of the vote.  Let's see if we
> can raise that number to over 50%.
> Thanks.
> Keith
>
>
> Keith Kinney
> kkinney at herculesengines.com
> WWW.HerculesEngines.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> AT mailing list
> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at
>
> _______________________________________________
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From rotigel at me.com  Tue Sep 14 20:34:58 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:34:58 -0700
Subject: [SEL] [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <720BAFF4-00E5-47C1-B229-1D7542ED90B5@herculesengines.com>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>
	<000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>
	<720BAFF4-00E5-47C1-B229-1D7542ED90B5@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <9423FBC7-0C03-434F-A313-C0A7D192FFE9@me.com>

Hell, So far Logan only has three votes from SA and six from the UK.  
Hell, PORUS had more than that from Kenya alone!
	Dave
PS, The 18 votes from OZ should not count--everyone knows that those  
people CHEET!

On Sep 14, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Keith Kinney wrote:

> Dean
> I respect your point of view. But, I think that the way these  
> contests work is that people in them ask everyone they know to  
> contact everyone they know to ask them to vote.  That's what  
> happened here.  Logan's uncle ask everyone in our office to vote and  
> tell their friends to vote too.  Just so happens that I know a lot  
> of people all over the world. :-).
> Keith
> On Sep 14, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Dean VP wrote:
>
>> Keith,
>>
>> I'm not comfortable with this so I won't participate. Doesn't seem  
>> ethical to me. Aren't we supposed
>> to be setting an example for the  next generations?
>>
>> Dean VP
>> Snohomish, WA
>> "Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need  
>> it and hell where they already
>> have it." - Ronald Reagan
>> "The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other  
>> people's money." - Margaret
>> Thatcher
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com 
>> ] On Behalf
>> Of Keith Kinney
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 2:32 PM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list; stationary-engine at oldengine.org; t at mail45.atl.registeredsite.com
>> Cc: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
>>
>> OK, we've done it before let's do it again.   A co-worker of mine  
>> has a nephew who is up for
>> football player of the week from a local TV station.  Viewers are  
>> asked to log onto their web site
>> and vote for their favorite player.  Here's the web site:
>> http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
>> Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called  
>> "Player of the Week"
>> The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds.  
>> Rushing, 3 TDs
>> Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".
>> It will allow one vote per computer.  I just voted and he has 38.5%  
>> of the vote.  Let's see if we
>> can raise that number to over 50%.
>> Thanks.
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> Keith Kinney
>> kkinney at herculesengines.com
>> WWW.HerculesEngines.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> AT mailing list
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>>
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>
> Keith Kinney
> kkinney at herculesengines.com
> WWW.HerculesEngines.com
>
>
>
> To Unsubscribe, simply send a message to slick-request at toltbbs.com
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From enginepaul at gmail.com  Tue Sep 14 18:52:00 2010
From: enginepaul at gmail.com (P. Johns)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:52:00 -0700
Subject: [SEL] [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <006BE621-AD32-44FB-895B-DE24AF395053@me.com>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>
	<000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>
	<006BE621-AD32-44FB-895B-DE24AF395053@me.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinmGwEMn-OEwiOckS9DXZT5+UAoqDFQ46zXDOHq@mail.gmail.com>

"Doesn't seem ethical to me."

It isn't ethical - it's voting.

Paul in California - where I may be voting for the next 100 years


From rotigel at me.com  Tue Sep 14 21:58:09 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:58:09 -0700
Subject: [SEL] [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <000001cb5473$b9fb0880$2df11980$@net>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>
	<000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>
	<006BE621-AD32-44FB-895B-DE24AF395053@me.com>
	<000001cb5473$b9fb0880$2df11980$@net>
Message-ID: <EC7CB48D-CAB1-43ED-AD25-E455182B092A@me.com>

By Golly Darn Dean VP, I'm glad that you are ETHICAL and everyone that  
you disagree with is NOT!
	Dave
PS, Sorry 'bout your kids!
PPS, Do you have "buyers remorse" yet?

On Sep 14, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Dean VP wrote:

> Dave,
>
> I don't think it would be appropriate to rise to that kind of  
> bait. :-) I suspect politics is
> something that is banned on this list. From my perspective this is a  
> personal ethics issue. I always
> get reminded of the situation when you find out your kids are doing  
> drugs. Their(kids) excuse is
> everybody else is doing it too. So just because the other  
> contestants are getting votes from odd
> places doesn't mean to me that I should follow suit. I'm not telling  
> anyone what they should do. I'm
> just saying I have ethical issues with this so I'm not going to  
> participate.
>
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com 
> ] On Behalf
> Of David Rotigel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:29 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Cc: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
>
> By Golly Darn DeanVP, This is the way that OBAMA was elected. What do
> you have against the kind of democracy that OBAMA stands for? Don't
> you like black people, or what?
> 	Dave
>
> On Sep 14, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Dean VP wrote:
>
>> Keith,
>>
>> I'm not comfortable with this so I won't participate. Doesn't seem
>> ethical to me. Aren't we supposed
>> to be setting an example for the  next generations?
>>
>> Dean VP
>> Snohomish, WA
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> ] On Behalf
>> Of Keith Kinney
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 2:32 PM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list; stationary-engine at oldengine.org;
> t at mail45.atl.registeredsite.com
>> Cc: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
>>
>> OK, we've done it before let's do it again.   A co-worker of mine
>> has a nephew who is up for
>> football player of the week from a local TV station.  Viewers are
>> asked to log onto their web site
>> and vote for their favorite player.  Here's the web site:
>> http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
>> Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called
>> "Player of the Week"
>> The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds.
>> Rushing, 3 TDs
>> Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".
>> It will allow one vote per computer.  I just voted and he has 38.5%
>> of the vote.  Let's see if we
>> can raise that number to over 50%.
>> Thanks.
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> Keith Kinney
>> kkinney at herculesengines.com
>> WWW.HerculesEngines.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> AT mailing list
>> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> AT mailing list
>> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at
>
> _______________________________________________
> AT mailing list
> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at
>
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From rotigel at me.com  Tue Sep 14 22:43:44 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 22:43:44 -0700
Subject: [SEL] [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=36-9v1OtLTLOAsVJuqYCB7q2SLsj4hp=2HiW1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>
	<000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>
	<006BE621-AD32-44FB-895B-DE24AF395053@me.com>
	<000001cb5473$b9fb0880$2df11980$@net>
	<EC7CB48D-CAB1-43ED-AD25-E455182B092A@me.com>
	<AANLkTi=5Yoijqtb9B8nyMoXPotsT68GTO6=1O=00cXu3@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=36-9v1OtLTLOAsVJuqYCB7q2SLsj4hp=2HiW1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <538F575A-4952-45CF-8B29-A96070F661C9@me.com>

Hi Mogrtis, Do you realize how "unethical" you are?
	Dave
PS, GO BRIGGS!

On Sep 14, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Mogrits wrote:

> I clicked the link and voted. Even though two other kids had better
> performances I voted per my ATIS "brothers" request. After all, One
> kid played for a Catholic High School and the other for Tecumseh High.
> No self respecting Briggs & Stratton guy can vote for a Tecumseh
> anything...float bowls that clog and crappy points and all that mess.
>
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Mogrits <mogrits at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Good grief. Vote for the kid already.
>>
>> 220 yds and 3 TD's. Amazing.
>>
> _______________________________________________
> AT mailing list
> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at



From rotigel at me.com  Tue Sep 14 22:54:26 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 22:54:26 -0700
Subject: [SEL] [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinmGwEMn-OEwiOckS9DXZT5+UAoqDFQ46zXDOHq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>
	<000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>
	<006BE621-AD32-44FB-895B-DE24AF395053@me.com>
	<AANLkTinmGwEMn-OEwiOckS9DXZT5+UAoqDFQ46zXDOHq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E10B24FF-7E4D-4727-A6C1-A09852E99B39@me.com>

Some (who want to tell others how ETHICAL they are) do not understand  
the difference Paul!
	Dave

On Sep 14, 2010, at 6:52 PM, P. Johns wrote:

> "Doesn't seem ethical to me."
>
> It isn't ethical - it's voting.
>
> Paul in California - where I may be voting for the next 100 years


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 14 21:34:20 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:34:20 -0400
Subject: [SEL] [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <538F575A-4952-45CF-8B29-A96070F661C9@me.com>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>
	<000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>
	<006BE621-AD32-44FB-895B-DE24AF395053@me.com>
	<000001cb5473$b9fb0880$2df11980$@net>
	<EC7CB48D-CAB1-43ED-AD25-E455182B092A@me.com>
	<AANLkTi=5Yoijqtb9B8nyMoXPotsT68GTO6=1O=00cXu3@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=36-9v1OtLTLOAsVJuqYCB7q2SLsj4hp=2HiW1@mail.gmail.com>
	<538F575A-4952-45CF-8B29-A96070F661C9@me.com>
Message-ID: <12c404a14aa2c222ea8be831f9029e8a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

ROFLMAO!!!!!!

On Wed, September 15, 2010 1:43 am, David Rotigel wrote:
> Hi Mogrtis, Do you realize how "unethical" you are?
> 	Dave
> PS, GO BRIGGS!
>
> On Sep 14, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Mogrits wrote:
>
>> I clicked the link and voted. Even though two other kids had better
>> performances I voted per my ATIS "brothers" request. After all, One
>> kid played for a Catholic High School and the other for Tecumseh High.
>> No self respecting Briggs & Stratton guy can vote for a Tecumseh
>> anything...float bowls that clog and crappy points and all that mess.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Mogrits <mogrits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Good grief. Vote for the kid already.
>>>
>>> 220 yds and 3 TD's. Amazing.




From russell at ncable.com.au  Wed Sep 15 04:11:48 2010
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:11:48 +1000
Subject: [SEL] International LB mixer.
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100907170957.01e8c1e0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100907170957.01e8c1e0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <20100915111134.ADD1133881E@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au>

Hi Jerry I recon I might be able to help, send me a note off list, I 
will respond sometime next week, I have a bit on right now.
regards Russell

At 01:14 AM 8/09/2010, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>          A friend just found an International LB but the tank and mixer are
>missing. The tank is easy to fabricate locally but does anyone have a spare
>mixer (and maybe a few more parts) for sale?
>
>          A suppliers name would also be a good.
>
>Many thanks,
>
>
>Keep the revs up (or down)
>Jerry Evans
>Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
>Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
><www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From plowe at exemail.com.au  Wed Sep 15 05:20:49 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:20:49 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Cornell University help
Message-ID: <49165C3AC81743ED8841F0AC0164B487@peterlowe>

Hi all

The request I made yesterday on the University of Illinois has been cleared up, the two Thesis manuscripts I am after are very rare and actually the only copies in existance, so I am now dealing with the "Rare Books and Manuscripts Library at Illinois University as these two items cannot be lent out to other libraries because of their fragile nature.

I am now dealing with another Thesis manuscript from Cornell University, Ithaca, NY, looks like these can be lent out on microfilm to other major libraries in the USA only.
Is there anyone in our group that has time and is a regualr Library user that is prepared to go through this manuscript and copy it for me. I am assuming I can get it copied, need to ask futher as to how many pages also.

Yes this is Gas Engine related and to do with Root & VanDervoort Engineering Co.

I am prepared to pay for time involved if needed, reply back to this email address only and not to the LIST please, plowe at exemail.com.au
.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Skype name: ozengines

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 15 07:46:41 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:46:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cornell University help
In-Reply-To: <49165C3AC81743ED8841F0AC0164B487@peterlowe>
References: <49165C3AC81743ED8841F0AC0164B487@peterlowe>
Message-ID: <9a98765190e3381cb652b1e788c6aa0e.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

G'day Peter,

Sounds like a damn fine reason to cross the pond again.  8-))
Coolspring is October 14-16 and not too far from Cornell.

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, September 15, 2010 8:20 am, Peter Lowe wrote:
> I am now dealing with another Thesis manuscript from Cornell University, Ithaca, NY,
> looks like these can be lent out on microfilm to other major libraries in the USA
> only.





From mcanady at lilleyinternational.com  Wed Sep 15 08:03:02 2010
From: mcanady at lilleyinternational.com (Merton Canady)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:03:02 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC
Message-ID: <B9D545915CF543778B5D06F74DC42B19@merton>

I am in need of some help in moving a Hog OIler to the WNC Fall Harvest Days Show in Arden NC this year from Gastonia NC. Or somewhere nearer to Washington NC! Please let me know if you can help. Thanks Merton Canady

From jerrye at databak.co.za  Wed Sep 15 13:13:34 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:13:34 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi All,
	I've been wondering about that skinny Aussie guy since Portland. The lists 
have been awfully quiet about him lately!

	The last I saw was a pic of him with his tentacles wrapped around the 
delectable Debbie.

	Is he lost! Has he gone "walkabout" ?

	Arnie, have you heard from "Bambi and Nitro" lately or are they also 
"lost". ???

	Has anyone been in contact with Marg ?

Jerry,
(concerned in South Africa)



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 15 14:27:50 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:27:50 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Australia National Rally - 2012?
Message-ID: <beb86af6a4cfc86380b3dad4e2d9d535.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

When and where is the National Rally in 2012?

The Yanks are thinking about an invasion.  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

Arnie Fero
Pittsburgh, PA USA
fero_ah at city-net.com





From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Wed Sep 15 14:29:14 2010
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:29:14 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Australia National Rally - 2012?
In-Reply-To: <beb86af6a4cfc86380b3dad4e2d9d535.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <beb86af6a4cfc86380b3dad4e2d9d535.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <87903BA747074439AA4686EB47A7C2C0@KerryPC>

G,Day Arnie

2 Sep 2011 over 3 days in Western Australia, south of Perth

Kerry


> When and where is the National Rally in 2012?
> 
> The Yanks are thinking about an invasion.  8-))
> 
> See ya,  Arnie
> 



From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Wed Sep 15 14:34:50 2010
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:34:50 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Australia National Rally - 2012?
In-Reply-To: <beb86af6a4cfc86380b3dad4e2d9d535.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <beb86af6a4cfc86380b3dad4e2d9d535.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <A57F215E3E354383AF568202CE6A4629@KerryPC>

G'Day again

Arnie I think Russell's original suggestion was for the next one in the 
Eastern States where most of us on the list live. Nationals are held every 
two years so 2013, where and when will be decided next year at the Western 
Australia event

Kerry



> When and where is the National Rally in 2012?
>
> The Yanks are thinking about an invasion.  8-))
>
> See ya,  Arnie



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 15 14:47:21 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:47:21 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Australia National Rally - 2012?
In-Reply-To: <A57F215E3E354383AF568202CE6A4629@KerryPC>
References: <beb86af6a4cfc86380b3dad4e2d9d535.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<A57F215E3E354383AF568202CE6A4629@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <eb9863e959d9521739802304312ce662.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

YUP!  That's more like what I was thinking!
Plus that gives us more time to save up for the beer.

On Wed, September 15, 2010 5:34 pm, Kerry wrote:
> Arnie I think Russell's original suggestion was for the next one in the
> Eastern States where most of us on the list live. Nationals are held every
> two years so 2013, where and when will be decided next year at the Western
> Australia event





From George_Best at adp.com  Wed Sep 15 14:47:18 2010
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:47:18 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Australia National Rally - 2012?
In-Reply-To: <87903BA747074439AA4686EB47A7C2C0@KerryPC>
References: <beb86af6a4cfc86380b3dad4e2d9d535.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<87903BA747074439AA4686EB47A7C2C0@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4682575B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Which year did Arnie really mean?
2012 or 2011?

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:29 PM
To: Stationary Engine List
Subject: Re: [SEL] Australia National Rally - 2012?

G,Day Arnie

2 Sep 2011 over 3 days in Western Australia, south of Perth

Kerry


> When and where is the National Rally in 2012?
> 
> The Yanks are thinking about an invasion.  8-))
> 
> See ya,  Arnie
> 

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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Wed Sep 15 14:56:09 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:56:09 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC
References: <B9D545915CF543778B5D06F74DC42B19@merton>
Message-ID: <004701cb5520$ce08d1b0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Merton:

  Ray Medford, Tommy Berry, Bill Herndon and Curt Holland all live in the 
Gastonia vicinity and most go to Arden.  If they don't, I am in Shelby and I 
will be going.

Mike Royster

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Merton Canady" <mcanady at lilleyinternational.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:03 AM
Subject: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC


>I am in need of some help in moving a Hog OIler to the WNC Fall Harvest 
>Days Show in Arden NC this year from Gastonia NC. Or somewhere nearer to 
>Washington NC! Please let me know if you can help. Thanks Merton Canady
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From bst41474 at bigpond.net.au  Wed Sep 15 15:57:59 2010
From: bst41474 at bigpond.net.au (Barry & Tanya Stait)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:57:59 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Australia National Rally - 2012?
In-Reply-To: <eb9863e959d9521739802304312ce662.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <beb86af6a4cfc86380b3dad4e2d9d535.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><A57F215E3E354383AF568202CE6A4629@KerryPC>
	<eb9863e959d9521739802304312ce662.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <33D5ED1D5FB14D94B87E6988355C96E5@Stait>

Going by the state roster, it should be in NSW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Cc: "Stationary Engine List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Australia National Rally - 2012?


> YUP!  That's more like what I was thinking!
> Plus that gives us more time to save up for the beer.
>
> On Wed, September 15, 2010 5:34 pm, Kerry wrote:
>> Arnie I think Russell's original suggestion was for the next one in the
>> Eastern States where most of us on the list live. Nationals are held 
>> every
>> two years so 2013, where and when will be decided next year at the 
>> Western
>> Australia event
>
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Wed Sep 15 21:39:53 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (plowe at exemail.com.au)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:39:53 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cornell University help
Message-ID: <380-22010941643953910@M2W123.mail2web.com>

Damn you Arnie, you know how to stir a guy up, now how do I get around Kaye
on this trip.
Pete



G'day Peter,

Sounds like a damn fine reason to cross the pond again.  8-))
Coolspring is October 14-16 and not too far from Cornell.

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, September 15, 2010 8:20 am, Peter Lowe wrote:
> I am now dealing with another Thesis manuscript from Cornell University,
Ithaca, NY,
> looks like these can be lent out on microfilm to other major libraries in
the USA
> only.



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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 15 22:17:11 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:17:11 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cornell University help
In-Reply-To: <380-22010941643953910@M2W123.mail2web.com>
References: <380-22010941643953910@M2W123.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <f97272c9f475d0a95b916bad86582dab.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Tell her the musty old Cornell archives would upset her allergies?

On Thu, September 16, 2010 12:39 am, plowe at exemail.com.au wrote:
> Damn you Arnie, you know how to stir a guy up, now how do I get around Kaye
> on this trip.
>
> G'day Peter,
>
> Sounds like a damn fine reason to cross the pond again.  8-))
> Coolspring is October 14-16 and not too far from Cornell.





From mjhamric at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 16 05:52:20 2010
From: mjhamric at yahoo.com (Miles Hamrick)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 05:52:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC
Message-ID: <384006.16700.qm@web58502.mail.re3.yahoo.com>











Merton,
?
I too can help you with this.? I know that I am new to the "list" but the elders (primarily Arnie)?have welcomed me to this big family or that is what he referred to?it that night over a jar of?XXX.? Let me know if I can help out.
?
Miles?

--- On Wed, 9/15/10, Merton Canady <mcanady at lilleyinternational.com> wrote

From: Merton Canady <mcanady at lilleyinternational.com>
Subject: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 11:03 AM


I am in need of some help in moving a Hog OIler to the WNC Fall Harvest Days Show in Arden NC this year from Gastonia NC. Or somewhere nearer to Washington NC! Please let me know if you can help. Thanks Merton Canady
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From rob at rustyiron.com  Thu Sep 16 07:30:09 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:30:09 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC
In-Reply-To: <384006.16700.qm@web58502.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <384006.16700.qm@web58502.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <551AAD32-DC5A-496B-B255-63832EE13302@rustyiron.com>


On Sep 16, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Miles Hamrick wrote:
>
> the elders (primarily Arnie) have welcomed me

Despite this big black cloud hanging over your
reputation, Miles, I'm sure you're really a very nice fellow.

Rob




From no1djc at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 16 07:37:51 2010
From: no1djc at hotmail.com (David Carter)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:37:51 +0000
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <1900497948.2113691284463666624.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
References: <BAY156-w63F697FC5C8A4C5497574B92770@phx.gbl>,
	<1900497948.2113691284463666624.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
Message-ID: <BAY156-w16B7735E5FE83D582A5D62927A0@phx.gbl>


Curt,
   If I remember correctly, when you lift the lever (there are actually two, the lower lifts the smaller one above it) to start the set, the circuits are reconfigured to series from parallel(??). The lever makes and breaks several sets of contacts to do this. Once the engine fires and speeds up, the flow of electricity is reversed through the circuit and the larger of the two coils. When running and the lever is lowered, the upper lever(or flap) is held up in the charging position by the coils above it and the current flowing through them, holding contacts in place. As the start lever is lowered other contacts return to the charging configuration. The electromagnet has two windings, a large gauge winding and a small gauge winding. When I rebuilt mine I had to rewind the inner (small gauge) coil as the wire had burnt out at some point. When I rebuilt it I could not get it to hold in position, then I realised that I did not know which way the coil was originally connected to the terminals. I reversed the wires and it held in place. (They must have to work in unison). Through the charging circuit there is a circuit for the ignition coil which stops the engine if the upper lever drops though lack of charging current. This could be why yours stops when you let go of the levers.
 The set was designed to run at full charge i.e. always giving (almost full) power for lighting and/or charging batteries. If the engine speed, hence charge rate dropped, the levers dropped and all stopped. The only governing on the engine was the load and the fixed jet size in the mixer. According to the manual engine speed would be about 1200rpm.
 
I no longer have the wiring diagrams as I sold the set last year. But I should see the owner in next week at a show so I'll ask him for a photcopy of the wiring and send it to you. It may be quicker to try "Delco Don" on Smokstak's Sparks and Arcs.  
I have dug out two pics showing the two sides of the start control levers and the coil feed terminals. As the lever is raised contacts are broken and others made. You really need a wiring diagram to follow it through.  
 The outer coil terminals:-
 http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2061806560104310933EEoFPO

 

The two square inner coil terminals top left :-

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2083897180104310933oMqRzD

 

 As the original ignition coil had burnt out I rewired a car coil,(a Delco by co-incidence), and used a knife switch so it could be run from the batteries without any charging taking place.

 

 The contactor arms are slightly bent in places and they act as springs against the action of the lever.

 

As for phone number, well, I live on a little island just off your west coast .......called England.

 

Hope this helps you out. Let me know how you get on.

 

Regards, Dave.

 

> Ok Dave, the felt did the trick. Will now put a c-clip in to retain it better. Engine getting fuel now. Also having a problem with the starter switch not holding. I have to hold on to the switch to keep it running. Not sure if one of those contact levers are bent. If you could take some detailed pics of your starter (with cover off) so I can better see if there is some sort of wear I sure would appreciate it or if you have some other suggestion. Also what is your phone number so I can chat with you a bit.
> Thanks again,
> Curt

 		 	   		  

From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Sep 16 12:12:01 2010
From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:12:01 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC
References: <384006.16700.qm@web58502.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<551AAD32-DC5A-496B-B255-63832EE13302@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <A66BC01E7D7F4D0982A5064B5FDAD865@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>

Rob,
        It sure was the most memorable night at Portland that  I've had on 
any of my trips, you guys missed a good one!! (AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR!!, or 
should that be , CHAAAAARRRRRRRR!!).

Craig
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Skinner" <rob at rustyiron.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC


>
> On Sep 16, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Miles Hamrick wrote:
>>
>> the elders (primarily Arnie) have welcomed me
>
> Despite this big black cloud hanging over your
> reputation, Miles, I'm sure you're really a very nice fellow.
>
> Rob
>
>
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From rotigel at me.com  Thu Sep 16 17:32:10 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:32:10 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <001c01cb545f$a79aafb0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>
	<001c01cb545f$a79aafb0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <650F9637-3FC8-4B59-9843-F45380BCD0C6@me.com>

41.3% as of 5:25 PM, Thursday the 16th. (I think this Isaac kid is  
CHEETING!) When is the voting over?
	Dave

On Sep 14, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Mike Royster wrote:

> 39.3
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Keith Kinney
>  To: The SEL email discussion list ; stationary- 
> engine at oldengine.org ; t at mail45.atl.registeredsite.com
>  Cc: Antique tractor email discussion group
>  Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:31 PM
>  Subject: Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
>
>
>  OK, we've done it before let's do it again.   A co-worker of mine  
> has a nephew who is up for football player of the week from a local  
> TV station.  Viewers are asked to log onto their web site and vote  
> for their favorite player.  Here's the web site:
>  http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
>  Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called  
> "Player of the Week"
>  The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds.  
> Rushing, 3 TDs
>  Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".
>  It will allow one vote per computer.  I just voted and he has 38.5%  
> of the vote.  Let's see if we can raise that number to over 50%.
>  Thanks.
>  Keith
>
>
>
>
>  Keith Kinney
>  kkinney at herculesengines.com
>  WWW.HerculesEngines.com
>
>
>
>
>
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From rob at rustyiron.com  Thu Sep 16 17:34:05 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:34:05 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC
In-Reply-To: <A66BC01E7D7F4D0982A5064B5FDAD865@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>
References: <384006.16700.qm@web58502.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<551AAD32-DC5A-496B-B255-63832EE13302@rustyiron.com>
	<A66BC01E7D7F4D0982A5064B5FDAD865@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>
Message-ID: <A2967A87-66D0-4860-809A-F8E936DEDF95@rustyiron.com>


On Sep 16, 2010, at 12:12 PM, craig morrison wrote:
> It sure was the most memorable night at Portland that  I've had on
> any of my trips, you guys missed a good one!! (AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR!!,  
> or
> should that be , CHAAAAARRRRRRRR!!).


Hi, Craig.
Is this "Char" of which you write anything like the
Australian "BLUUUUUUUUUUNDY!" rum that was
served one year at Portland?





From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Thu Sep 16 19:17:19 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:17:19 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC
References: <384006.16700.qm@web58502.mail.re3.yahoo.com><551AAD32-DC5A-496B-B255-63832EE13302@rustyiron.com><A66BC01E7D7F4D0982A5064B5FDAD865@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>
	<A2967A87-66D0-4860-809A-F8E936DEDF95@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <40547B7DF981401886BC1406BACEB5B3@regpc>

The Royster bloke had a LOT to do with Arnie's sore head!  (It was meant for 
that Judge bloke prior to another shed raid!)
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Skinner" <rob at rustyiron.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC


>
> On Sep 16, 2010, at 12:12 PM, craig morrison wrote:
>> It sure was the most memorable night at Portland that  I've had on
>> any of my trips, you guys missed a good one!! (AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR!!,
>> or
>> should that be , CHAAAAARRRRRRRR!!).
>
>
> Hi, Craig.
> Is this "Char" of which you write anything like the
> Australian "BLUUUUUUUUUUNDY!" rum that was
> served one year at Portland?
>
>
>
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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Thu Sep 16 22:04:53 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:04:53 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>

Hi Jerry, I picked up the shed man on Tues. morning, as usual, a big grin on 
his face but looking a bit tired.   It is now Fri. afternoon, he has mowed 
the grass, whipper snipped, cleaned the pool, swept out the shed and almost 
caught up with things.   One thing is bothering me, I may contact Dave and 
see if he can tell me what is/has happened.   Two nights in a row Reg has 
woken me up yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!   He is still asleep, but has 
a stupid gooey look on his face, if it happens tonite, I may have to give 
him a clip under the ear!   Other than that, it is good to have him home.
Marg x
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold 




From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Sep 17 00:40:23 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:40:23 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Looking for gas engine owner
Message-ID: <1B34D783BD004C17BB952157ED6CA6E9@peterlowe>

Hi all
Does anyone know this guy, John Drumm, Manitowoc, WI ??

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Skype name: ozengines




From cgandree at mchsi.com  Fri Sep 17 03:15:32 2010
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:15:32 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] Looking for gas engine owner
In-Reply-To: <1B34D783BD004C17BB952157ED6CA6E9@peterlowe>
Message-ID: <1545173815.2763431284718532874.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

Met him at Jason Dahm's farm last fall. You might contact Jason directly Pete.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>, "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 2:40:23 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [SEL] Looking for gas engine owner

Hi all
Does anyone know this guy, John Drumm, Manitowoc, WI ??

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
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From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Fri Sep 17 04:11:35 2010
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:11:35 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <650F9637-3FC8-4B59-9843-F45380BCD0C6@me.com>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>,
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>,
	<001c01cb545f$a79aafb0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>,
	<650F9637-3FC8-4B59-9843-F45380BCD0C6@me.com>
Message-ID: <SNT118-W26CF9933F241724CF36F2AC87B0@phx.gbl>


41.9%   I was able to vote again this morning.

Luke Tonneberger
Rockford, Michigan
USA 

=========================
 
> From: rotigel at me.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:32:10 -0700
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
> 
> 41.3% as of 5:25 PM, Thursday the 16th. (I think this Isaac kid is 
> CHEETING!) When is the voting over?
> Dave
> 
> On Sep 14, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Mike Royster wrote:
> 
> > 39.3
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Keith Kinney
> > To: The SEL email discussion list ; stationary- 
> > engine at oldengine.org ; t at mail45.atl.registeredsite.com
> > Cc: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:31 PM
> > Subject: Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
> >
> >
> > OK, we've done it before let's do it again. A co-worker of mine 
> > has a nephew who is up for football player of the week from a local 
> > TV station. Viewers are asked to log onto their web site and vote 
> > for their favorite player. Here's the web site:
> > http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
> > Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called 
> > "Player of the Week"
> > The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds. 
> > Rushing, 3 TDs
> > Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".
> > It will allow one vote per computer. I just voted and he has 38.5% 
> > of the vote. Let's see if we can raise that number to over 50%.
> > Thanks.
> > Keith
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Keith Kinney
> > kkinney at herculesengines.com
> > WWW.HerculesEngines.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Fri Sep 17 05:13:20 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:13:20 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <650F9637-3FC8-4B59-9843-F45380BCD0C6@me.com>
Message-ID: <F1EC53CAE912480BBD9AD336E448149C@laruecounty.courthouse>

I just hit it from my office computer and its going to be hard for the
others to catch him.  The Owensboro Catholic kid (hey, that's a KY
school!) has some impressive stats.  5 touchdowns!  Wow, must have been
playing against the Middle School team.... 

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David
Rotigel
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:32 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.

41.3% as of 5:25 PM, Thursday the 16th. (I think this Isaac kid is  
CHEETING!) When is the voting over?
	Dave





From rotigel at me.com  Fri Sep 17 08:18:03 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:18:03 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>
Message-ID: <B1248CAE-6F6F-428A-93E8-24C59606500D@me.com>

Hi Marg,
	Please tell Reg that the Harbor Freight gal contacted me last week  
and asked me to tell Reg that "The tests came back negative." I have  
no idea what that means, but when he finishes his chores please pass  
that bit of information on to him!
	XXOO, Dave

On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:04 PM, Reg Ingold wrote:

> Hi Jerry, I picked up the shed man on Tues. morning, as usual, a big  
> grin on
> his face but looking a bit tired.   It is now Fri. afternoon, he has  
> mowed
> the grass, whipper snipped, cleaned the pool, swept out the shed and  
> almost
> caught up with things.   One thing is bothering me, I may contact  
> Dave and
> see if he can tell me what is/has happened.   Two nights in a row  
> Reg has
> woken me up yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!   He is still asleep,  
> but has
> a stupid gooey look on his face, if it happens tonite, I may have to  
> give
> him a clip under the ear!   Other than that, it is good to have him  
> home.
> Marg x


From rotigel at me.com  Fri Sep 17 08:40:24 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:40:24 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <F1EC53CAE912480BBD9AD336E448149C@laruecounty.courthouse>
References: <F1EC53CAE912480BBD9AD336E448149C@laruecounty.courthouse>
Message-ID: <370C9892-9A0E-47F6-B861-5D426EAA4B48@me.com>

That Catholic kid is CHEETING. His mother probably asked all her  
friends to vote for him. How UNETHICAL!!!!!!!!!
	Dave

On Sep 17, 2010, at 5:13 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:

> I just hit it from my office computer and its going to be hard for the
> others to catch him.  The Owensboro Catholic kid (hey, that's a KY
> school!) has some impressive stats.  5 touchdowns!  Wow, must have  
> been
> playing against the Middle School team....
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David
> Rotigel
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:32 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
>
> 41.3% as of 5:25 PM, Thursday the 16th. (I think this Isaac kid is
> CHEETING!) When is the voting over?
> 	Dave
>
>
>
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From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Fri Sep 17 05:38:10 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:38:10 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Engines on the Market
In-Reply-To: <B1248CAE-6F6F-428A-93E8-24C59606500D@me.com>
Message-ID: <967E8F7AB9E54A0D9CA4FB076F250A50@laruecounty.courthouse>

Just an FYI if anyone is interested.  I have purchased some antique car
parts from this guy and he's a pretty good fella.  He runs across some
engines from time to time and he's got a couple of Witte's with decent
prices on them if anyone's interested.  Both need EK's.  Many years ago
I had a friend who had a 6 HP Witte on a grist mill. It did the job
well.

http://www.modelthaven.com/cars1.html

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY





From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Fri Sep 17 05:59:25 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:59:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <370C9892-9A0E-47F6-B861-5D426EAA4B48@me.com>
Message-ID: <E1348AAAB62F4E638485E46FE9C85A81@laruecounty.courthouse>

Dave,
	If he's a good KY Catholic, he's got 15 brothers and sisters.
All they have to do is get all the family voting and they win!

Tommy Turner



That Catholic kid is CHEETING. His mother probably asked all her  
friends to vote for him. How UNETHICAL!!!!!!!!!
	Dave

On Sep 17, 2010, at 5:13 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:

> I just hit it from my office computer and its going to be hard for the
> others to catch him.  The Owensboro Catholic kid (hey, that's a KY
> school!) has some impressive stats.  5 touchdowns!  Wow, must have  
> been
> playing against the Middle School team....
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David
> Rotigel
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:32 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
>
> 41.3% as of 5:25 PM, Thursday the 16th. (I think this Isaac kid is
> CHEETING!) When is the voting over?
> 	Dave
>
>
>
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Sep 17 06:33:37 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:33:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>
Message-ID: <ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

ROFLMAO!!!!   OK, Marg, you OWE me for a new laptop!  This one has coffee snorted
all over it!!

Just remember one thing, what happens at Harbor Freight, stays at Harbor Freight.
8-))

See ya.  Love ya.  Arnie

On Fri, September 17, 2010 1:04 am, Reg Ingold wrote:
> Hi Jerry, I picked up the shed man on Tues. morning, as usual, a big grin on
> his face but looking a bit tired.   It is now Fri. afternoon, he has mowed
> the grass, whipper snipped, cleaned the pool, swept out the shed and almost
> caught up with things.   One thing is bothering me, I may contact Dave and
> see if he can tell me what is/has happened.   Two nights in a row Reg has
> woken me up yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!   He is still asleep, but has
> a stupid gooey look on his face, if it happens tonite, I may have to give
> him a clip under the ear!   Other than that, it is good to have him home.
> Marg x




From cgandree at mchsi.com  Fri Sep 17 06:30:25 2010
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:30:25 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <BAY156-w16B7735E5FE83D582A5D62927A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1081926330.2786401284730224862.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

David,
Are you on SKYPE?  If not send me your number any way please.
thanks,
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Carter" <no1djc at hotmail.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:37:51 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED


Curt,
   If I remember correctly, when you lift the lever (there are actually two, the lower lifts the smaller one above it) to start the set, the circuits are reconfigured to series from parallel(??). The lever makes and breaks several sets of contacts to do this. Once the engine fires and speeds up, the flow of electricity is reversed through the circuit and the larger of the two coils. When running and the lever is lowered, the upper lever(or flap) is held up in the charging position by the coils above it and the current flowing through them, holding contacts in place. As the start lever is lowered other contacts return to the charging configuration. The electromagnet has two windings, a large gauge winding and a small gauge winding. When I rebuilt mine I had to rewind the inner (small gauge) coil as the wire had burnt out at some point. When I rebuilt it I could not get it to hold in position, then I realised that I did not know which way the coil was originally connected to t!
 he terminals. I reversed the wires and it held in place. (They must have to work in unison). Through the charging circuit there is a circuit for the ignition coil which stops the engine if the upper lever drops though lack of charging current. This could be why yours stops when you let go of the levers.
 The set was designed to run at full charge i.e. always giving (almost full) power for lighting and/or charging batteries. If the engine speed, hence charge rate dropped, the levers dropped and all stopped. The only governing on the engine was the load and the fixed jet size in the mixer. According to the manual engine speed would be about 1200rpm.
 
I no longer have the wiring diagrams as I sold the set last year. But I should see the owner in next week at a show so I'll ask him for a photcopy of the wiring and send it to you. It may be quicker to try "Delco Don" on Smokstak's Sparks and Arcs.  
I have dug out two pics showing the two sides of the start control levers and the coil feed terminals. As the lever is raised contacts are broken and others made. You really need a wiring diagram to follow it through.  
 The outer coil terminals:-
 http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2061806560104310933EEoFPO

 

The two square inner coil terminals top left :-

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2083897180104310933oMqRzD

 

 As the original ignition coil had burnt out I rewired a car coil,(a Delco by co-incidence), and used a knife switch so it could be run from the batteries without any charging taking place.

 

 The contactor arms are slightly bent in places and they act as springs against the action of the lever.

 

As for phone number, well, I live on a little island just off your west coast .......called England.

 

Hope this helps you out. Let me know how you get on.

 

Regards, Dave.

 

> Ok Dave, the felt did the trick. Will now put a c-clip in to retain it better. Engine getting fuel now. Also having a problem with the starter switch not holding. I have to hold on to the switch to keep it running. Not sure if one of those contact levers are bent. If you could take some detailed pics of your starter (with cover off) so I can better see if there is some sort of wear I sure would appreciate it or if you have some other suggestion. Also what is your phone number so I can chat with you a bit.
> Thanks again,
> Curt

 		 	   		  
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Sep 17 06:49:33 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:49:33 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <SNT118-W26CF9933F241724CF36F2AC87B0@phx.gbl>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>,
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>,
	<001c01cb545f$a79aafb0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>,
	<650F9637-3FC8-4B59-9843-F45380BCD0C6@me.com>
	<SNT118-W26CF9933F241724CF36F2AC87B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9f6062900fe1b88247642cec25704f26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Me too...
On Fri, September 17, 2010 7:11 am, Luke Tonneberger wrote:
>
> 41.9%   I was able to vote again this morning.
>> > OK, we've done it before let's do it again. A co-worker of mine
>> > has a nephew who is up for football player of the week from a local
>> > TV station. Viewers are asked to log onto their web site and vote
>> > for their favorite player. Here's the web site:
>> > http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
>> > Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called
>> > "Player of the Week"
>> > The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds.
>> > Rushing, 3 TDs
>> > Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".




From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 17 07:13:25 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:13:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <9f6062900fe1b88247642cec25704f26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <408855.82739.qm@web111703.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Mr Three.
Actually three times today
Once each with IE, Opera and Firefox?several days now.
?
Alan

--- On Fri, 9/17/10, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:


From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Friday, September 17, 2010, 9:49 AM


Me too...
On Fri, September 17, 2010 7:11 am, Luke Tonneberger wrote:
>
> 41.9%???I was able to vote again this morning.
>> > OK, we've done it before let's do it again. A co-worker of mine
>> > has a nephew who is up for football player of the week from a local
>> > TV station. Viewers are asked to log onto their web site and vote
>> > for their favorite player. Here's the web site:
>> > http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
>> > Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called
>> > "Player of the Week"
>> > The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds.
>> > Rushing, 3 TDs
>> > Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".


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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Fri Sep 17 09:25:13 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:25:13 +0200
Subject: [SEL]  Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1284739202.30446.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100917181522.023da100@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 17/09/2010, you wrote:
>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:32:10 -0700
>From: David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
>
>41.3% as of 5:25 PM, Thursday the 16th. (I think this Isaac kid is
>CHEETING!) When is the voting over?
>         Dave

Hi  Dave,
         I also just managed another vote! Now 42.3% just on double the 
number of votes that the cheating Catholic has!! :-)
Jerry

(P.S. TO ALL HUMOURISTICALLY CHALLENGED CATHOLICS AND LIBERALS ON THE LIST 
- NO OFFENCE MEANT - IT'S JUST A JOKE !!!!)

P.P.S. Arnie did you ever get what you wanted from that Swedish broad that 
the engine men pushed to the top ??

P.P.S. Yes I know this should be on "Slick" and yes, it is there as well. 

From jerrye at databak.co.za  Fri Sep 17 09:54:19 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:54:19 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1284739202.30446.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100917182917.023d4878@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 17/09/2010, you wrote:
>Message: 5
>Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:04:53 +1000
>From: "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
>
>Hi Jerry, I picked up the shed man on Tues. morning, as usual, a big grin on
>his face but looking a bit tired.   It is now Fri. afternoon, he has mowed
>the grass, whipper snipped, cleaned the pool, swept out the shed and almost
>caught up with things.   One thing is bothering me, I may contact Dave and
>see if he can tell me what is/has happened.   Two nights in a row Reg has
>woken me up yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!   He is still asleep, but has
>a stupid gooey look on his face, if it happens tonite, I may have to give
>him a clip under the ear!   Other than that, it is good to have him home.
>Marg x
>Reg & Marg Ingold

Hi Marg,
         Thanks for the reply, I'm sooooooooooo relieved that he has got 
back safely. I was very worried that those naughty Yankee buggers would 
corrupt him, him being so innocent and all !!!

         Your reply has just explained a recurring nightmare I've had for 
the last few days. A big truck is approaching me at speed and I cannot get 
out of the way - All I remember is the letters signwritten on the 
truck  "RHFT". I've tried everything but they did not make sense until now!!

         "Reg, Harbour Freight Tits" !!  No need to contact Dave - I can 
explain it all.

         He must have ordered a gift for you from "Harbour Freight" and the 
silly "Tits" messed up the order and he did not get it in time to take back 
to you. It's now so clear - no wonder he's having nightmares about it :-)

         Treat him with tenderness and love, shame, the poor guy will 
probably take some time to recover from the disappointment. No wonder he's 
been doing all those chores about the place - he's obviously "trying to 
forget".

Love,
Jerry
          

From George_Best at adp.com  Fri Sep 17 13:29:28 2010
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:29:28 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Coolspring show lodging
In-Reply-To: <967E8F7AB9E54A0D9CA4FB076F250A50@laruecounty.courthouse>
References: <B1248CAE-6F6F-428A-93E8-24C59606500D@me.com>
	<967E8F7AB9E54A0D9CA4FB076F250A50@laruecounty.courthouse>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4694A3D2@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

When people attend the Coolspring engine show where are the motels to stay at?

I need to find some place I can book 4 rooms for 8 guys.

George


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From rotigel at me.com  Fri Sep 17 16:54:05 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:54:05 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Coolspring show lodging
In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4694A3D2@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
References: <B1248CAE-6F6F-428A-93E8-24C59606500D@me.com>
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There are a number of motels on I-80 near/in Brookville, PA George.  
Brookville is about 10 mi. north of Coolspring. See: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=Brookville+PA+motels&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
	Dave

On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Best, George wrote:

> When people attend the Coolspring engine show where are the motels  
> to stay at?
>
> I need to find some place I can book 4 rooms for 8 guys.
>
> George
>
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From blcksmth at wcnet.org  Fri Sep 17 13:54:46 2010
From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:54:46 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Coolspring show lodging
In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4694A3D2@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
References: <B1248CAE-6F6F-428A-93E8-24C59606500D@me.com><967E8F7AB9E54A0D9CA4FB076F250A50@laruecounty.courthouse>
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Message-ID: <1889AB44434F4244A2C69259DB8A0DB1@Eagle>


	Brookville is at I-80 exit 79 or 80 and Coolspring is about 8 miles
south of there. 


Bob Willman
The Eagle's Anvil
WB8NQW
Bowling Green, Ohio

Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government.

James Madison




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[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 4:29 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Coolspring show lodging

When people attend the Coolspring engine show where are the motels to stay
at?

I need to find some place I can book 4 rooms for 8 guys.

George


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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Sep 17 14:16:28 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:16:28 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Coolspring show lodging
In-Reply-To: <CE1327F2-5717-43FA-B06F-3156A76B3966@me.com>
References: <B1248CAE-6F6F-428A-93E8-24C59606500D@me.com>
	<967E8F7AB9E54A0D9CA4FB076F250A50@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4694A3D2@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<CE1327F2-5717-43FA-B06F-3156A76B3966@me.com>
Message-ID: <abca6c3f707dd7069a8dd5c1f3492130.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

George,

The other convenient option is to look at Punxsutawney hotels.
http://www.pantallhotel.com/ is one example.

Punxy is on Rt. 36 about 10 miles south of Coolspring.
That way you can get a little Punxsutawney Phil Groundhog Day flavor with your
engine show.  http://www.groundhog.org/

Ya definitely can't do THAT at Portland!  8-))

See ya.  Arnie

PS - Sounds like a HOWT in the making?

On Fri, September 17, 2010 7:54 pm, David Rotigel wrote:
> There are a number of motels on I-80 near/in Brookville, PA George.
> Brookville is about 10 mi. north of Coolspring. See:
> http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=Brookville+PA+motels&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
> 	Dave
>
> On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Best, George wrote:
>
>> When people attend the Coolspring engine show where are the motels
>> to stay at?
>>
>> I need to find some place I can book 4 rooms for 8 guys.
>>
>> George




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Fri Sep 17 15:28:43 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:28:43 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100917182917.023d4878@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
Message-ID: <8EBFF0FFA2024FA0ADAFE1EF9CCE091C@regpc>

Thankyou Jerry, I knew you would work it out!!   Poor Reggie, how he must 
have suffered!   NOT!   However, a nice little "bauble" for Christmas will 
surely make him feel better, I,ll start looking in all the local jewellers 
and see what I can come up with.
love Marg xx
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 2:54 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?


> At 06:00 PM 17/09/2010, you wrote:
>>Message: 5
>>Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:04:53 +1000
>>From: "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
>>
>>Hi Jerry, I picked up the shed man on Tues. morning, as usual, a big grin 
>>on
>>his face but looking a bit tired.   It is now Fri. afternoon, he has mowed
>>the grass, whipper snipped, cleaned the pool, swept out the shed and 
>>almost
>>caught up with things.   One thing is bothering me, I may contact Dave and
>>see if he can tell me what is/has happened.   Two nights in a row Reg has
>>woken me up yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!   He is still asleep, but 
>>has
>>a stupid gooey look on his face, if it happens tonite, I may have to give
>>him a clip under the ear!   Other than that, it is good to have him home.
>>Marg x
>>Reg & Marg Ingold
>
> Hi Marg,
>         Thanks for the reply, I'm sooooooooooo relieved that he has got
> back safely. I was very worried that those naughty Yankee buggers would
> corrupt him, him being so innocent and all !!!
>
>         Your reply has just explained a recurring nightmare I've had for
> the last few days. A big truck is approaching me at speed and I cannot get
> out of the way - All I remember is the letters signwritten on the
> truck  "RHFT". I've tried everything but they did not make sense until 
> now!!
>
>         "Reg, Harbour Freight Tits" !!  No need to contact Dave - I can
> explain it all.
>
>         He must have ordered a gift for you from "Harbour Freight" and the
> silly "Tits" messed up the order and he did not get it in time to take 
> back
> to you. It's now so clear - no wonder he's having nightmares about it :-)
>
>         Treat him with tenderness and love, shame, the poor guy will
> probably take some time to recover from the disappointment. No wonder he's
> been doing all those chores about the place - he's obviously "trying to
> forget".
>
> Love,
> Jerry
>
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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Fri Sep 17 16:14:52 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 09:14:52 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za><42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>
	<ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>

Sorry about your keyboard Arnie, hopefully it will dry out.   Problem 
solved, our lovely friend Jerry in Joburg explained it all to me!!   It also 
broke his nightmares too!!   I think Steve Royster is at the bottom of all 
this, he is very quiet just now!!   Maybe away somewhere?
Anyway, Jerry,s explanation is fine by me.
Marg x
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?


> ROFLMAO!!!!   OK, Marg, you OWE me for a new laptop!  This one has coffee 
> snorted
> all over it!!
>
> Just remember one thing, what happens at Harbor Freight, stays at Harbor 
> Freight.
> 8-))
>
> See ya.  Love ya.  Arnie
>
> On Fri, September 17, 2010 1:04 am, Reg Ingold wrote:
>> Hi Jerry, I picked up the shed man on Tues. morning, as usual, a big grin 
>> on
>> his face but looking a bit tired.   It is now Fri. afternoon, he has 
>> mowed
>> the grass, whipper snipped, cleaned the pool, swept out the shed and 
>> almost
>> caught up with things.   One thing is bothering me, I may contact Dave 
>> and
>> see if he can tell me what is/has happened.   Two nights in a row Reg has
>> woken me up yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!   He is still asleep, but 
>> has
>> a stupid gooey look on his face, if it happens tonite, I may have to give
>> him a clip under the ear!   Other than that, it is good to have him home.
>> Marg x
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Fri Sep 17 16:15:37 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 09:15:37 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za><42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>
	<B1248CAE-6F6F-428A-93E8-24C59606500D@me.com>
Message-ID: <E6ECE9D2C3A44BE49F1B04EFD7AF5385@regpc>

Dave you are one naughty man, I don,t believe a word you are saying.
Marg x
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?


> Hi Marg,
> Please tell Reg that the Harbor Freight gal contacted me last week  
> and asked me to tell Reg that "The tests came back negative." I have  
> no idea what that means, but when he finishes his chores please pass  
> that bit of information on to him!
> XXOO, Dave
> 
> On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:04 PM, Reg Ingold wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jerry, I picked up the shed man on Tues. morning, as usual, a big  
>> grin on
>> his face but looking a bit tired.   It is now Fri. afternoon, he has  
>> mowed
>> the grass, whipper snipped, cleaned the pool, swept out the shed and  
>> almost
>> caught up with things.   One thing is bothering me, I may contact  
>> Dave and
>> see if he can tell me what is/has happened.   Two nights in a row  
>> Reg has
>> woken me up yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!   He is still asleep,  
>> but has
>> a stupid gooey look on his face, if it happens tonite, I may have to  
>> give
>> him a clip under the ear!   Other than that, it is good to have him  
>> home.
>> Marg x
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From rotigel at me.com  Fri Sep 17 19:40:42 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:40:42 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <E6ECE9D2C3A44BE49F1B04EFD7AF5385@regpc>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>
	<B1248CAE-6F6F-428A-93E8-24C59606500D@me.com>
	<E6ECE9D2C3A44BE49F1B04EFD7AF5385@regpc>
Message-ID: <822988FF-5D06-4898-8B10-169470A7E9CA@me.com>

Hi Marg, How long will it be before you let Reg use the computer again?
	Dave

On Sep 17, 2010, at 4:15 PM, Reg Ingold wrote:

> Dave you are one naughty man, I don,t believe a word you are saying.
> Marg x
> Reg & Marg Ingold
> Newcastle NSW Australia
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
>
>
>> Hi Marg,
>> Please tell Reg that the Harbor Freight gal contacted me last week
>> and asked me to tell Reg that "The tests came back negative." I have
>> no idea what that means, but when he finishes his chores please pass
>> that bit of information on to him!
>> XXOO, Dave
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:04 PM, Reg Ingold wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jerry, I picked up the shed man on Tues. morning, as usual, a big
>>> grin on
>>> his face but looking a bit tired.   It is now Fri. afternoon, he has
>>> mowed
>>> the grass, whipper snipped, cleaned the pool, swept out the shed and
>>> almost
>>> caught up with things.   One thing is bothering me, I may contact
>>> Dave and
>>> see if he can tell me what is/has happened.   Two nights in a row
>>> Reg has
>>> woken me up yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!   He is still asleep,
>>> but has
>>> a stupid gooey look on his face, if it happens tonite, I may have to
>>> give
>>> him a clip under the ear!   Other than that, it is good to have him
>>> home.
>>> Marg x
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Fri Sep 17 18:59:45 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:59:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za><42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc><ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>
Message-ID: <001801cb56d5$2ae14420$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Marg:

  You are sooooo right about my brother!  Steve is too quiet, probably 
racked with guilt as he is the one that took poor innocent Reg to Tractor 
Supply and exposed him to that vixen.  My brother, bless his heart!

MR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?


> Sorry about your keyboard Arnie, hopefully it will dry out.   Problem
> solved, our lovely friend Jerry in Joburg explained it all to me!!   It 
> also
> broke his nightmares too!!   I think Steve Royster is at the bottom of all
> this, he is very quiet just now!!   Maybe away somewhere?
> Anyway, Jerry,s explanation is fine by me.
> Marg x
> Reg & Marg Ingold
> Newcastle NSW Australia
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
>
>
>> ROFLMAO!!!!   OK, Marg, you OWE me for a new laptop!  This one has coffee
>> snorted
>> all over it!!
>>
>> Just remember one thing, what happens at Harbor Freight, stays at Harbor
>> Freight.
>> 8-))
>>
>> See ya.  Love ya.  Arnie
>>
>> On Fri, September 17, 2010 1:04 am, Reg Ingold wrote:
>>> Hi Jerry, I picked up the shed man on Tues. morning, as usual, a big 
>>> grin
>>> on
>>> his face but looking a bit tired.   It is now Fri. afternoon, he has
>>> mowed
>>> the grass, whipper snipped, cleaned the pool, swept out the shed and
>>> almost
>>> caught up with things.   One thing is bothering me, I may contact Dave
>>> and
>>> see if he can tell me what is/has happened.   Two nights in a row Reg 
>>> has
>>> woken me up yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!   He is still asleep, but
>>> has
>>> a stupid gooey look on his face, if it happens tonite, I may have to 
>>> give
>>> him a clip under the ear!   Other than that, it is good to have him 
>>> home.
>>> Marg x
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Sep 17 19:13:04 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:13:04 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za><42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>
	<ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>
Message-ID: <90bfccd2a349b774321f662dee587769.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

G'day Marg,

No worries m'lady, got the keyboard & monitor sorted.  And I think you're on EXACTLY
the right track shopping the local jewelry stores for a suitable Christmas bauble to
help clear your mind of the HORROR of being awakened each night by Reg (the
barbarian) yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!

And you are SOOOO perceptive at recognizing straight away that the evil Cloistered
Oyster Steve was at the root of this evil.  He is a baddun'!!

See ya,  Arnie

On Fri, September 17, 2010 7:14 pm, Reg Ingold wrote:
> Sorry about your keyboard Arnie, hopefully it will dry out.   Problem
> solved, our lovely friend Jerry in Joburg explained it all to me!!   It also
> broke his nightmares too!!   I think Steve Royster is at the bottom of all
> this, he is very quiet just now!!   Maybe away somewhere?
> Anyway, Jerry,s explanation is fine by me.
> Marg x




From rotigel at me.com  Fri Sep 17 22:29:13 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:29:13 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <001801cb56d5$2ae14420$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>
	<ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>
	<001801cb56d5$2ae14420$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <623180D5-E928-493D-AF6E-F74B7146AFEE@me.com>

Holy S#!T--you mean there was one at Tractor Supply as well?
	Dave

On Sep 17, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Mike Royster wrote:

> Marg:
>
>  You are sooooo right about my brother!  Steve is too quiet, probably
> racked with guilt as he is the one that took poor innocent Reg to  
> Tractor
> Supply and exposed him to that vixen.  My brother, bless his heart!
>
> MR
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
>
>
>> Sorry about your keyboard Arnie, hopefully it will dry out.   Problem
>> solved, our lovely friend Jerry in Joburg explained it all to  
>> me!!   It
>> also
>> broke his nightmares too!!   I think Steve Royster is at the bottom  
>> of all
>> this, he is very quiet just now!!   Maybe away somewhere?
>> Anyway, Jerry,s explanation is fine by me.
>> Marg x
>> Reg & Marg Ingold
>> Newcastle NSW Australia
>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
>>
>>
>>> ROFLMAO!!!!   OK, Marg, you OWE me for a new laptop!  This one has  
>>> coffee
>>> snorted
>>> all over it!!
>>>
>>> Just remember one thing, what happens at Harbor Freight, stays at  
>>> Harbor
>>> Freight.
>>> 8-))
>>>
>>> See ya.  Love ya.  Arnie
>>>
>>> On Fri, September 17, 2010 1:04 am, Reg Ingold wrote:
>>>> Hi Jerry, I picked up the shed man on Tues. morning, as usual, a  
>>>> big
>>>> grin
>>>> on
>>>> his face but looking a bit tired.   It is now Fri. afternoon, he  
>>>> has
>>>> mowed
>>>> the grass, whipper snipped, cleaned the pool, swept out the shed  
>>>> and
>>>> almost
>>>> caught up with things.   One thing is bothering me, I may contact  
>>>> Dave
>>>> and
>>>> see if he can tell me what is/has happened.   Two nights in a row  
>>>> Reg
>>>> has
>>>> woken me up yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!   He is still  
>>>> asleep, but
>>>> has
>>>> a stupid gooey look on his face, if it happens tonite, I may have  
>>>> to
>>>> give
>>>> him a clip under the ear!   Other than that, it is good to have him
>>>> home.
>>>> Marg x
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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From marinesurveys at msn.com  Sat Sep 18 01:56:58 2010
From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 04:56:58 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wisconsin Model TF
In-Reply-To: <623180D5-E928-493D-AF6E-F74B7146AFEE@me.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za>,
	<42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>,
	<ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	<0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>,
	<001801cb56d5$2ae14420$0201a8c0@mikecomp>,
	<623180D5-E928-493D-AF6E-F74B7146AFEE@me.com>
Message-ID: <COL106-W598ED4991F307D2A78B338B47C0@phx.gbl>




 Hi Folks;
 
Does any of the list members know much about the Wisconsin 2 Cyl. 
engines like the Model TF ?

 
                  Best Regards
             
           Franklin S. Skinner 
      Marine Surveyor & Consultant 
3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 
       34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West 
PH 910-791-8870  Cell 910-612-7470





 		 	   		  

From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Sep 18 13:38:34 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:38:34 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Ruston & Hornsby 1ZHR at Barleylands
In-Reply-To: <209aa83eed03c147e3b18627fc883e0a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <AANLkTi=tS78raUqkhz6qG4CsKvgekMYFJoq3tGP0AF7r@mail.gmail.com>
	<209aa83eed03c147e3b18627fc883e0a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin-6ONwgBfwuC+4rAvgCdvQs5CdMkgQQkE0EXbY@mail.gmail.com>

On 13 September 2010 19:19, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
> She's lookin' GOOD Peter!!

Thanks, Arnie:

Sorted the electrickery problem out, we had an insulation sleeve
rubbed through against an internal through-bolt, that took out the
generating side of things, and when we tried to start up again, we had
clouds of the magic smoke, as that cable was energised with 28V from
two 105AH batteries..... Nice juicy DC arc! No major damage and it was
up and running fairly quickly after we got back home.

We have also translated the Stationary Engine Forum Ruston rebuild
thread into a website series of pages, taking out the extraneous items
and comments along the way.

There is coverage of about 2 years work, with associated pictures that
cover everything we did up to July this year.

The new section is at the bottom of the existing Ruston 1ZHR menu:

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Ruston1ZHR/RustonMenu.htm

It is only on Stationary-Engine.co.uk at present, I will copy it over
to the mirror site at Oldengine.org later.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sun Sep 19 02:08:40 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 19:08:40 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally 2010
Message-ID: <C8BC1038.5B92%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

I have not had time for captions yet but the pictures are up at:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc10/index.htm

It was a great weekend with lots of great engines and interesting people (or
visa versa).

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From walking_tractor at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 19 05:43:49 2010
From: walking_tractor at yahoo.com (David Myers)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:43:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Wisconsin Model TF
In-Reply-To: <COL106-W598ED4991F307D2A78B338B47C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <274920.71983.qm@web55901.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Frank,
What do you need?
I have a small stable of twins and might be able to help.
David


--- On Sat, 9/18/10, frank skinner <marinesurveys at msn.com> wrote:


From: frank skinner <marinesurveys at msn.com>
Subject: [SEL] Wisconsin Model TF
To: "AA_OLD ENGINE" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Cc: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Date: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 4:56 AM





Hi Folks;

Does any of the list members know much about the Wisconsin 2 Cyl. 
engines like the Model TF ?


? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Best Regards
? ? ? ? ? ???
? ? ? ? ???Franklin S. Skinner 
? ? ? Marine Surveyor & Consultant 
3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 
? ? ???34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West 
PH 910-791-8870? Cell 910-612-7470





??? ???????? ?????? ??? ? 
_______________________________________________
SEL mailing list
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Sep 19 12:18:44 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:18:44 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Guts or Balls
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=rMMhy1cDpDBaTCkWE2HaLz9awyy+j0FQ4gJ-G@mail.gmail.com>

Had this come in to my inbox tonight:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ever wondered about  | Guts or Balls...

There is a medical distinction.    We've all heard about people having
guts or balls, but do you really know the difference between them?
In an effort to keep you informed, the definitions are listed below:

                    GUTS - Is arriving home late after a night out
with the boys, being met by your wife with a broom,
                    and having the guts to ask: ''Are you still
cleaning, or are you flying somewhere?''

                    BALLS - Is coming home late after a night out with
the boys, smelling of perfume and beer,
                    lipstick on your collar, slapping your wife on the
arse and having the balls to say: ''You're next, fatty.''

                    I hope this clears up any confusion on the definitions.

                    Medically speaking, there is no difference in the
outcome, since both ultimately result in death.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From dombros2 at clearmail.com.au  Sun Sep 19 13:20:24 2010
From: dombros2 at clearmail.com.au (Ted & Sue Domeney)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 06:20:24 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally 2010
Message-ID: <82D8BDFE83FC4870B6748B07FCD0E2FC@HOUSE>

Excellent Patrick, Thank you
Teddy

From old_iron at msn.com  Sun Sep 19 13:55:08 2010
From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:55:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinmGwEMn-OEwiOckS9DXZT5+UAoqDFQ46zXDOHq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>,
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>,
	<000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>,
	<006BE621-AD32-44FB-895B-DE24AF395053@me.com>,
	<AANLkTinmGwEMn-OEwiOckS9DXZT5+UAoqDFQ46zXDOHq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU137-W10D60952EA637427CED137E77D0@phx.gbl>


Hear, Hear
 
Remember I vote in Cook County Illinois! This is more fun and it seems ALOT better than what we have ended up with in this state!
 
Peg Pfeiffer
 
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:52:00 -0700
> From: enginepaul at gmail.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
> 
> "Doesn't seem ethical to me."
> 
> It isn't ethical - it's voting.
> 
> Paul in California - where I may be voting for the next 100 years
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Mon Sep 20 04:33:41 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:33:41 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Some video from the Sydney Rally
Message-ID: <C8BD83B5.5BC8%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

A few short clips from our rally.
Olds 3hp 2AA Air Cooled gas engine 1908
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_7uCql8QI8

Root & VanDervoort engines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJbIq3ClWto

Blackstone Oil Engine 3hp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFU384f-NUk



Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Tue Sep 21 10:22:39 2010
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:22:39 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem
Message-ID: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>

I had a chance to perform a detailed inspection of the Cummins LI-600 diesel engines on our GE 80 ton locomotive. The front engine is stuck, most likely from water in one or more cylinders. One head is missing and the cylinder wall is a bit rusty so this may be the one that is stuck.

The rear engine does run, however the no. 2 connecting rod bearing disintegrated and apparently the engine was kept in service for a while longer probably until the knock became too much to listen to. The crankpin is now of course galled. I have not yet taken a mic to it to find out how much metal was lost. Actually only one liner was still somewhat intact, the other one was in the bottom of the pan in a million pieces.

I need to be able to move this locomotive under its own power to get it out of where it is at and into a new location for rebuilding, probably two miles total. So I am now thinking if there is a way that I can run the engine on five cylinders for long enough to get it where it needs to go.

Some of the issues with doing this would be whether it would be better to try to clean up the journal as much as possible, put in a new liner, disconnect the injector and engage the compression release on that cylinder, or to remove the connecting rod, tie the piston and rod out of the way and install a machined clamp that would provide some of the weight of the rod and seal off the oil hole.

Anyone ever have to do something like this on a diesel engine? Would such a temporary repair work?

For the uninitiated, the LI-600 is a six cylinder inline engine, generating 250 HP at 1000 RPM. 7" bore, 10" stroke. Crankpin is 4.25" dia. First produced in 1929, this engine was built in 1944. Parts are somewhat available. 

Rick Rowlands

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 21 11:49:00 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:49:00 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem
In-Reply-To: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
References: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
Message-ID: <ae2d5775046c163f7999fc45d21fc5e6.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Rick,

You do have the MOST interesting problems!!  8-))

On Tue, September 21, 2010 1:22 pm, Rick Rowlands wrote:

Plan B:
> Some of the issues with doing this would be whether it would be better to try to
> clean up the journal as much as possible, put in a new liner, disconnect the
> injector and engage the compression release on that cylinder,

Plan A:
> or to remove the
> connecting rod, tie the piston and rod out of the way and install a machined clamp
> that would provide some of the weight of the rod and seal off the oil hole.

If it was me with this problem and you didn't have access to anything that could
pull or push this loco two miles down the track; I think I'd do a modified Plan A. 
Pull the head and pull that piston & rod.  Then go for it.  Other wise, Plan B.

See ya,  Arnie

PS - It's only fair to remind you that I'm a professional nuclear engineer and I
have zero experience with big diesels.

PPS - OTOH, I did waive my normal consulting fee.  8-))



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Tue Sep 21 11:51:21 2010
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:51:21 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
Message-ID: <20100921.115152.965.9810@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>

Hi all.
Anyone on the list ever replaced the wood on an old tank for a spray rig?
 This one is about 4' long, 3' wide and 3' deep.  Round on the bottom and
held together with metal rods.  My question is about the long boards  on
the sides, the remaining boards are not tongue and groove they just butt
together and rely on the wood swelling up.  These boards have a slight
curve across their width, were them made that way or over the years of
being wet and clamped in place did they curve?
A lot of the original wood is there but saturated with arsenic and now
hazardous material and cannot be used.
Thanks for any suggestions.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 21 12:06:03 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:06:03 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <20100921.115152.965.9810@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100921.115152.965.9810@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <59aafdc8b360bd462c9cb8344e2daee6.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Ron,

I'll bet the curve that you observe is the result of a cooper's skill.
I think I'd look for a modern cooper and ask for a consultation.

See ya,  Arnie

On Tue, September 21, 2010 2:51 pm, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote:

> Anyone on the list ever replaced the wood on an old tank for a spray rig?
>  This one is about 4' long, 3' wide and 3' deep.  Round on the bottom and
> held together with metal rods.  My question is about the long boards  on
> the sides, the remaining boards are not tongue and groove they just butt
> together and rely on the wood swelling up.  These boards have a slight
> curve across their width, were them made that way or over the years of
> being wet and clamped in place did they curve?
> A lot of the original wood is there but saturated with arsenic and now
> hazardous material and cannot be used.




From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Tue Sep 21 13:05:03 2010
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:05:03 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <20100921.115152.965.9810@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100921.115152.965.9810@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <18CF3633-290E-44A6-AAC3-4D45735B9074@herculesengines.com>

Ron
Check out this link.  I'll bet it will be useful in your project.
Keith
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48397

On Sep 21, 2010, at 1:51 PM, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote:

> Hi all.
> Anyone on the list ever replaced the wood on an old tank for a spray rig?
> This one is about 4' long, 3' wide and 3' deep.  Round on the bottom and
> held together with metal rods.  My question is about the long boards  on
> the sides, the remaining boards are not tongue and groove they just butt
> together and rely on the wood swelling up.  These boards have a slight
> curve across their width, were them made that way or over the years of
> being wet and clamped in place did they curve?
> A lot of the original wood is there but saturated with arsenic and now
> hazardous material and cannot be used.
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California USA
> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
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From rotigel at me.com  Tue Sep 21 16:21:25 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:21:25 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <20100921.115152.965.9810@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100921.115152.965.9810@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <57BF07BB-9830-4227-8300-88DD1595862F@me.com>

Hi Ron,
	What are you using the tank for? What's the problem with a little bit  
of arsenic? Like DDT arsenic was used for years and did a VERY good  
job of doing what it was intended to do. If, on the other hand you  
intend to use the tank for drinking water I can see the problem.

On Sep 21, 2010, at 11:51 AM, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote:

> Hi all.
> Anyone on the list ever replaced the wood on an old tank for a spray  
> rig?
> This one is about 4' long, 3' wide and 3' deep.  Round on the bottom  
> and
> held together with metal rods.  My question is about the long  
> boards  on
> the sides, the remaining boards are not tongue and groove they just  
> butt
> together and rely on the wood swelling up.  These boards have a slight
> curve across their width, were them made that way or over the years of
> being wet and clamped in place did they curve?
> A lot of the original wood is there but saturated with arsenic and now
> hazardous material and cannot be used.
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> Ron Haskell


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 21 13:43:31 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:43:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <18CF3633-290E-44A6-AAC3-4D45735B9074@herculesengines.com>
References: <20100921.115152.965.9810@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
	<18CF3633-290E-44A6-AAC3-4D45735B9074@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <0ead630fc0d066309783f48c65a757db.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Keith,

Thanks so much for that link!!  What an amazing project that was.  I'm really glad
that he took the time to keep reporting on each season's experience with that tank.

See ya,  Arnie

On Tue, September 21, 2010 4:05 pm, Keith Kinney wrote:
> Check out this link.  I'll bet it will be useful in your project.
> http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48397





From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 21 14:41:57 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:41:57 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
Message-ID: <b3b38f44bbde06148caa289455e28641.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Keith,

I hear ya.  I've always been keen on the orchard spray rigs.  A nice half-round
wooden tank on a cart with a Novo or Leader engine driving a nice triplex pump. 
Plus driving the mixer paddles inside the tank.  Then using the spray rig to
hose-down the good looking gals strolling by...  Well, you get the idea.  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

PS - I wonder if the folks at Coolspring or at the Drake Well Museum in Titusville
have any experience with refurbishing old wooden oil storage tanks or the tanks used
to transport the oil?

On Tue, September 21, 2010 4:46 pm, Keith Kinney wrote:
> You're welcome.  I was really impressed with the craftsmanship in that project.
> I'd like to build a couple of wooden cooling tanks to use on oil field engines.
> Some day.




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 21 15:49:48 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:49:48 -0400
Subject: [SEL] WFITBHFP Sighting
Message-ID: <0483236250a92db2a8df8e577dd707db.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

If we do a Christmas Charity Auction (Spencer?) it might be fun to see how much they
bring.  8-))

On Tue, September 21, 2010 5:57 pm, Craig Mathews wrote:
> They go everywhere I go for the most part. I still have all the little trinkets,
> added a few badges from some shows. They continue to go to shows, and once in
> awhile they actually get used.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
>
> DAMN!!? They still live...
>
> On Tue, September 21, 2010 5:20 pm, Craig Mathews wrote:
>> WFITBHFP seen along a trail at Lower Echo Lake, CA 9/11/2010




From mr at carolina.rr.com  Tue Sep 21 16:16:34 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:16:34 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem
References: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
	<ae2d5775046c163f7999fc45d21fc5e6.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <004801cb59e3$08d18c30$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

I know a pulpwood logger that did this with a 6 cylinder GMC.  And he went 
for a while before he repaired it!  Just missing a piston.

MR
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem


> Hi Rick,
>
> You do have the MOST interesting problems!!  8-))
>
> On Tue, September 21, 2010 1:22 pm, Rick Rowlands wrote:
>
> Plan B:
>> Some of the issues with doing this would be whether it would be better to 
>> try to
>> clean up the journal as much as possible, put in a new liner, disconnect 
>> the
>> injector and engage the compression release on that cylinder,
>
> Plan A:
>> or to remove the
>> connecting rod, tie the piston and rod out of the way and install a 
>> machined clamp
>> that would provide some of the weight of the rod and seal off the oil 
>> hole.
>
> If it was me with this problem and you didn't have access to anything that 
> could
> pull or push this loco two miles down the track; I think I'd do a modified 
> Plan A.
> Pull the head and pull that piston & rod.  Then go for it.  Other wise, 
> Plan B.
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> PS - It's only fair to remind you that I'm a professional nuclear engineer 
> and I
> have zero experience with big diesels.
>
> PPS - OTOH, I did waive my normal consulting fee.  8-))
>
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From james.kangas at timken.com  Tue Sep 21 17:38:19 2010
From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:38:19 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question
References: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
Message-ID: <BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CE@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>

Is this Locomotive some type of "Switcher"?I've never heard of a Loco with that small an engine.The 80 tons is what's puzzling me.Seems heavy for a Switching Engine.
 Jim K

________________________________

From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Rick Rowlands
Sent: Tue 9/21/2010 1:22 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem



I had a chance to perform a detailed inspection of the Cummins LI-600 diesel engines on our GE 80 ton locomotive. The front engine is stuck, most likely from water in one or more cylinders. One head is missing and the cylinder wall is a bit rusty so this may be the one that is stuck.

The rear engine does run, however the no. 2 connecting rod bearing disintegrated and apparently the engine was kept in service for a while longer probably until the knock became too much to listen to. The crankpin is now of course galled. I have not yet taken a mic to it to find out how much metal was lost. Actually only one liner was still somewhat intact, the other one was in the bottom of the pan in a million pieces.

I need to be able to move this locomotive under its own power to get it out of where it is at and into a new location for rebuilding, probably two miles total. So I am now thinking if there is a way that I can run the engine on five cylinders for long enough to get it where it needs to go.

Some of the issues with doing this would be whether it would be better to try to clean up the journal as much as possible, put in a new liner, disconnect the injector and engage the compression release on that cylinder, or to remove the connecting rod, tie the piston and rod out of the way and install a machined clamp that would provide some of the weight of the rod and seal off the oil hole.

Anyone ever have to do something like this on a diesel engine? Would such a temporary repair work?

For the uninitiated, the LI-600 is a six cylinder inline engine, generating 250 HP at 1000 RPM. 7" bore, 10" stroke. Crankpin is 4.25" dia. First produced in 1929, this engine was built in 1944. Parts are somewhat available.

Rick Rowlands
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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Tue Sep 21 18:07:18 2010
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:07:18 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
Message-ID: <20100921.180816.1000.382749@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>

Hi again Dave.
This is a spray rig at Cal Poly Pomona.  Originally used by Kellogg
himself.  Our club (WAPA) is volunteering to restore the rig with Novo
engine and triplex pump to working condition.  It will probably be pulled
around behind an old tractor spraying water, during special events.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell


On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:21:25 -0700 David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> writes:
> Hi Ron,
>         What are you using the tank for? What's the problem with a 
> little bit  
> of arsenic? Like DDT arsenic was used for years and did a VERY good  
> 
> job of doing what it was intended to do. If, on the other hand you  
> 
> intend to use the tank for drinking water I can see the problem.
> 
> On Sep 21, 2010, at 11:51 AM, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote:
> 
> > Hi all.
> > Anyone on the list ever replaced the wood on an old tank for a 
> spray  
> > rig?
> > This one is about 4' long, 3' wide and 3' deep.  Round on the 
> bottom  
> > and
> > held together with metal rods.  My question is about the long  
> > boards  on
> > the sides, the remaining boards are not tongue and groove they 
> just  
> > butt
> > together and rely on the wood swelling up.  These boards have a 
> slight
> > curve across their width, were them made that way or over the 
> years of
> > being wet and clamped in place did they curve?
> > A lot of the original wood is there but saturated with arsenic and 
> now
> > hazardous material and cannot be used.
> > Thanks for any suggestions.
> >
> > Ron Haskell
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
 
 
Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
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From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Tue Sep 21 18:57:36 2010
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:57:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question
References: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
	<BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CE@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>
Message-ID: <02b201cb59f9$87dbd150$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>

Yes it is a switcher.  GE built switchers from 25 ton version powered with 
one Cummins truck engine up to 44, 45, 65, 80 and 110 ton versions powered 
by two engines.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kangas, James G." <james.kangas at timken.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question


Is this Locomotive some type of "Switcher"?I've never heard of a Loco with 
that small an engine.The 80 tons is what's puzzling me.Seems heavy for a 
Switching Engine.
 Jim K

________________________________

From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Rick Rowlands
Sent: Tue 9/21/2010 1:22 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem



I had a chance to perform a detailed inspection of the Cummins LI-600 diesel 
engines on our GE 80 ton locomotive. The front engine is stuck, most likely 
from water in one or more cylinders. One head is missing and the cylinder 
wall is a bit rusty so this may be the one that is stuck.

The rear engine does run, however the no. 2 connecting rod bearing 
disintegrated and apparently the engine was kept in service for a while 
longer probably until the knock became too much to listen to. The crankpin 
is now of course galled. I have not yet taken a mic to it to find out how 
much metal was lost. Actually only one liner was still somewhat intact, the 
other one was in the bottom of the pan in a million pieces.

I need to be able to move this locomotive under its own power to get it out 
of where it is at and into a new location for rebuilding, probably two miles 
total. So I am now thinking if there is a way that I can run the engine on 
five cylinders for long enough to get it where it needs to go.

Some of the issues with doing this would be whether it would be better to 
try to clean up the journal as much as possible, put in a new liner, 
disconnect the injector and engage the compression release on that cylinder, 
or to remove the connecting rod, tie the piston and rod out of the way and 
install a machined clamp that would provide some of the weight of the rod 
and seal off the oil hole.

Anyone ever have to do something like this on a diesel engine? Would such a 
temporary repair work?

For the uninitiated, the LI-600 is a six cylinder inline engine, generating 
250 HP at 1000 RPM. 7" bore, 10" stroke. Crankpin is 4.25" dia. First 
produced in 1929, this engine was built in 1944. Parts are somewhat 
available.

Rick Rowlands
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From jd.kirkes at verizon.net  Tue Sep 21 19:14:37 2010
From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:14:37 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question
References: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
	<BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CE@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>
	<02b201cb59f9$87dbd150$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
Message-ID: <515652C7983143E7B86EC452715C5F05@Desktop>

The ALCO SW-1 which was a 600 Hp switcher weighed 100 tons. 
The GE was a rather small switcher.

Jim

Jim and Diane Kirkes
jd.kirkes at verizon.net
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Rowlands" <rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" 
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question


Yes it is a switcher.  GE built switchers from 25 ton 
version powered with
one Cummins truck engine up to 44, 45, 65, 80 and 110 ton 
versions powered
by two engines.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kangas, James G." <james.kangas at timken.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" 
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question


Is this Locomotive some type of "Switcher"?I've never heard 
of a Loco with
that small an engine.The 80 tons is what's puzzling me.Seems 
heavy for a
Switching Engine.
 Jim K

________________________________

From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of 
Rick Rowlands
Sent: Tue 9/21/2010 1:22 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem



I had a chance to perform a detailed inspection of the 
Cummins LI-600 diesel
engines on our GE 80 ton locomotive. The front engine is 
stuck, most likely
from water in one or more cylinders. One head is missing and 
the cylinder
wall is a bit rusty so this may be the one that is stuck.

The rear engine does run, however the no. 2 connecting rod 
bearing
disintegrated and apparently the engine was kept in service 
for a while
longer probably until the knock became too much to listen 
to. The crankpin
is now of course galled. I have not yet taken a mic to it to 
find out how
much metal was lost. Actually only one liner was still 
somewhat intact, the
other one was in the bottom of the pan in a million pieces.

I need to be able to move this locomotive under its own 
power to get it out
of where it is at and into a new location for rebuilding, 
probably two miles
total. So I am now thinking if there is a way that I can run 
the engine on
five cylinders for long enough to get it where it needs to 
go.

Some of the issues with doing this would be whether it would 
be better to
try to clean up the journal as much as possible, put in a 
new liner,
disconnect the injector and engage the compression release 
on that cylinder,
or to remove the connecting rod, tie the piston and rod out 
of the way and
install a machined clamp that would provide some of the 
weight of the rod
and seal off the oil hole.

Anyone ever have to do something like this on a diesel 
engine? Would such a
temporary repair work?

For the uninitiated, the LI-600 is a six cylinder inline 
engine, generating
250 HP at 1000 RPM. 7" bore, 10" stroke. Crankpin is 4.25" 
dia. First
produced in 1929, this engine was built in 1944. Parts are 
somewhat
available.

Rick Rowlands
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From james.kangas at timken.com  Tue Sep 21 19:44:09 2010
From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:44:09 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question
References: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174><BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CE@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>
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Thank you for your reply Rick,
I didn't realize they made switchers as big as 80 and 110 ton, especially with such small engines. As to your original problem, is there a short line or independent rail operator in your area that could be convinced to send one of their engines over to push or pull yours the two miles.
  Jim K

________________________________

From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Rick Rowlands
Sent: Tue 9/21/2010 9:57 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question



Yes it is a switcher.  GE built switchers from 25 ton version powered with
one Cummins truck engine up to 44, 45, 65, 80 and 110 ton versions powered
by two engines.

Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kangas, James G." <james.kangas at timken.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question


Is this Locomotive some type of "Switcher"?I've never heard of a Loco with
that small an engine.The 80 tons is what's puzzling me.Seems heavy for a
Switching Engine.
 Jim K

________________________________

From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Rick Rowlands
Sent: Tue 9/21/2010 1:22 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem



I had a chance to perform a detailed inspection of the Cummins LI-600 diesel
engines on our GE 80 ton locomotive. The front engine is stuck, most likely
from water in one or more cylinders. One head is missing and the cylinder
wall is a bit rusty so this may be the one that is stuck.

The rear engine does run, however the no. 2 connecting rod bearing
disintegrated and apparently the engine was kept in service for a while
longer probably until the knock became too much to listen to. The crankpin
is now of course galled. I have not yet taken a mic to it to find out how
much metal was lost. Actually only one liner was still somewhat intact, the
other one was in the bottom of the pan in a million pieces.

I need to be able to move this locomotive under its own power to get it out
of where it is at and into a new location for rebuilding, probably two miles
total. So I am now thinking if there is a way that I can run the engine on
five cylinders for long enough to get it where it needs to go.

Some of the issues with doing this would be whether it would be better to
try to clean up the journal as much as possible, put in a new liner,
disconnect the injector and engage the compression release on that cylinder,
or to remove the connecting rod, tie the piston and rod out of the way and
install a machined clamp that would provide some of the weight of the rod
and seal off the oil hole.

Anyone ever have to do something like this on a diesel engine? Would such a
temporary repair work?

For the uninitiated, the LI-600 is a six cylinder inline engine, generating
250 HP at 1000 RPM. 7" bore, 10" stroke. Crankpin is 4.25" dia. First
produced in 1929, this engine was built in 1944. Parts are somewhat
available.

Rick Rowlands
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From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Tue Sep 21 20:39:23 2010
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:39:23 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <b3b38f44bbde06148caa289455e28641.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <b3b38f44bbde06148caa289455e28641.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <698DC190-F54A-405E-8703-1C566424FDBE@herculesengines.com>

Here's what you need Arnie:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220670614072#ht_645wt_1139
Keith





On Sep 21, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:

> Keith,
> 
> I hear ya.  I've always been keen on the orchard spray rigs.  A nice half-round
> wooden tank on a cart with a Novo or Leader engine driving a nice triplex pump. 
> Plus driving the mixer paddles inside the tank.  Then using the spray rig to
> hose-down the good looking gals strolling by...  Well, you get the idea.  8-))
> 
> See ya,  Arnie
> 
> PS - I wonder if the folks at Coolspring or at the Drake Well Museum in Titusville
> have any experience with refurbishing old wooden oil storage tanks or the tanks used
> to transport the oil?
> 
> On Tue, September 21, 2010 4:46 pm, Keith Kinney wrote:
>> You're welcome.  I was really impressed with the craftsmanship in that project.
>> I'd like to build a couple of wooden cooling tanks to use on oil field engines.
>> Some day.
> 
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From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Tue Sep 21 20:42:51 2010
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:42:51 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question
References: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174><BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CE@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com><02b201cb59f9$87dbd150$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
	<BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CF@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>
Message-ID: <02e501cb5a08$3bafdb50$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>

Thats not the issue, since it has to be moved about a mile to a loading site 
where it is placed on a flatcar, and then when it is unloaded at its new 
location has to move to its storage track under its own power.

I think that polishing the journal with emery and crocus cloth, putting it 
back together and running it at low speed I may be ok.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kangas, James G." <james.kangas at timken.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question


Thank you for your reply Rick,
I didn't realize they made switchers as big as 80 and 110 ton, especially 
with such small engines. As to your original problem, is there a short line 
or independent rail operator in your area that could be convinced to send 
one of their engines over to push or pull yours the two miles.
  Jim K

________________________________

From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Rick Rowlands
Sent: Tue 9/21/2010 9:57 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question



Yes it is a switcher.  GE built switchers from 25 ton version powered with
one Cummins truck engine up to 44, 45, 65, 80 and 110 ton versions powered
by two engines.

Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kangas, James G." <james.kangas at timken.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question


Is this Locomotive some type of "Switcher"?I've never heard of a Loco with
that small an engine.The 80 tons is what's puzzling me.Seems heavy for a
Switching Engine.
 Jim K

________________________________

From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Rick Rowlands
Sent: Tue 9/21/2010 1:22 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem



I had a chance to perform a detailed inspection of the Cummins LI-600 diesel
engines on our GE 80 ton locomotive. The front engine is stuck, most likely
from water in one or more cylinders. One head is missing and the cylinder
wall is a bit rusty so this may be the one that is stuck.

The rear engine does run, however the no. 2 connecting rod bearing
disintegrated and apparently the engine was kept in service for a while
longer probably until the knock became too much to listen to. The crankpin
is now of course galled. I have not yet taken a mic to it to find out how
much metal was lost. Actually only one liner was still somewhat intact, the
other one was in the bottom of the pan in a million pieces.

I need to be able to move this locomotive under its own power to get it out
of where it is at and into a new location for rebuilding, probably two miles
total. So I am now thinking if there is a way that I can run the engine on
five cylinders for long enough to get it where it needs to go.

Some of the issues with doing this would be whether it would be better to
try to clean up the journal as much as possible, put in a new liner,
disconnect the injector and engage the compression release on that cylinder,
or to remove the connecting rod, tie the piston and rod out of the way and
install a machined clamp that would provide some of the weight of the rod
and seal off the oil hole.

Anyone ever have to do something like this on a diesel engine? Would such a
temporary repair work?

For the uninitiated, the LI-600 is a six cylinder inline engine, generating
250 HP at 1000 RPM. 7" bore, 10" stroke. Crankpin is 4.25" dia. First
produced in 1929, this engine was built in 1944. Parts are somewhat
available.

Rick Rowlands
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From rob at rustyiron.com  Tue Sep 21 20:48:18 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:48:18 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <20100921.180816.1000.382749@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100921.180816.1000.382749@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <765333CC-6534-48B6-8101-AA129C2E3E09@rustyiron.com>


On Sep 21, 2010, at 6:07 PM, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote:

> Hi again Dave.
> This is a spray rig at Cal Poly Pomona.  Originally used by Kellogg
> himself.  Our club (WAPA) is volunteering to restore the rig with Novo
> engine and triplex pump to working condition.  It will probably be  
> pulled
> around behind an old tractor spraying water, during special events.


Just an idea, Ron... if the tank is in good shape, you could take a  
sample from the interior and drop it off at the chem lab for  
analysis.  It would probably make those students feel all warm and  
fuzzy to do something of immediate consequence.






From jdohagan at comcast.net  Tue Sep 21 21:18:34 2010
From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:18:34 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question
In-Reply-To: <02e501cb5a08$3bafdb50$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
References: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174><BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CE@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com><02b201cb59f9$87dbd150$0201a8c0@PC179134136174><BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CF@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>
	<02e501cb5a08$3bafdb50$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
Message-ID: <E40BE293DA5A41B3B90889C451FB0CF7@VALUED3253602F>

Hi Rick, I'm not Familiar with this type of engine, but is there room enough
to swing a portable crank-grinder under it  Cya, Jimmy 

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick Rowlands
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:43 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question

Thats not the issue, since it has to be moved about a mile to a loading site

where it is placed on a flatcar, and then when it is unloaded at its new 
location has to move to its storage track under its own power.

I think that polishing the journal with emery and crocus cloth, putting it 
back together and running it at low speed I may be ok.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kangas, James G." <james.kangas at timken.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question


Thank you for your reply Rick,
I didn't realize they made switchers as big as 80 and 110 ton, especially 
with such small engines. As to your original problem, is there a short line 
or independent rail operator in your area that could be convinced to send 
one of their engines over to push or pull yours the two miles.
  Jim K

________________________________

From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Rick Rowlands
Sent: Tue 9/21/2010 9:57 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question



Yes it is a switcher.  GE built switchers from 25 ton version powered with
one Cummins truck engine up to 44, 45, 65, 80 and 110 ton versions powered
by two engines.

Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kangas, James G." <james.kangas at timken.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question


Is this Locomotive some type of "Switcher"?I've never heard of a Loco with
that small an engine.The 80 tons is what's puzzling me.Seems heavy for a
Switching Engine.
 Jim K

________________________________

From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Rick Rowlands
Sent: Tue 9/21/2010 1:22 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem



I had a chance to perform a detailed inspection of the Cummins LI-600 diesel
engines on our GE 80 ton locomotive. The front engine is stuck, most likely
from water in one or more cylinders. One head is missing and the cylinder
wall is a bit rusty so this may be the one that is stuck.

The rear engine does run, however the no. 2 connecting rod bearing
disintegrated and apparently the engine was kept in service for a while
longer probably until the knock became too much to listen to. The crankpin
is now of course galled. I have not yet taken a mic to it to find out how
much metal was lost. Actually only one liner was still somewhat intact, the
other one was in the bottom of the pan in a million pieces.

I need to be able to move this locomotive under its own power to get it out
of where it is at and into a new location for rebuilding, probably two miles
total. So I am now thinking if there is a way that I can run the engine on
five cylinders for long enough to get it where it needs to go.

Some of the issues with doing this would be whether it would be better to
try to clean up the journal as much as possible, put in a new liner,
disconnect the injector and engage the compression release on that cylinder,
or to remove the connecting rod, tie the piston and rod out of the way and
install a machined clamp that would provide some of the weight of the rod
and seal off the oil hole.

Anyone ever have to do something like this on a diesel engine? Would such a
temporary repair work?

For the uninitiated, the LI-600 is a six cylinder inline engine, generating
250 HP at 1000 RPM. 7" bore, 10" stroke. Crankpin is 4.25" dia. First
produced in 1929, this engine was built in 1944. Parts are somewhat
available.

Rick Rowlands
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 22 07:58:30 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:58:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <698DC190-F54A-405E-8703-1C566424FDBE@herculesengines.com>
References: <b3b38f44bbde06148caa289455e28641.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<698DC190-F54A-405E-8703-1C566424FDBE@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <9a9842f9d933acf7d420fff489a1c11b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

That sure is a cutie allright.  No time and no space...
Someone should scarf it up though.

On Tue, September 21, 2010 11:39 pm, Keith Kinney wrote:
> Here's what you need Arnie:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220670614072#ht_645wt_1139





From oldironnut at windstream.net  Wed Sep 22 09:09:08 2010
From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:09:08 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <9a9842f9d933acf7d420fff489a1c11b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <b3b38f44bbde06148caa289455e28641.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<698DC190-F54A-405E-8703-1C566424FDBE@herculesengines.com>
	<9a9842f9d933acf7d420fff489a1c11b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <A75FD7E8-7E88-4427-B010-E41E7EFED85F@windstream.net>

Oh those are lame assed excuses! You told us what you would like to have and Keith pointed you to a great example of one that's at a pretty good price and is pretty close to you. Your reply is no time or space!!! You're going on a 7 day weekend at some point right and the Roysters have perfected and shown us all the instant white tarp storage shed so you just need to pony up the cash and go get that little cutie!

See ya',
Mike 

On Sep 22, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:

> That sure is a cutie allright.  No time and no space...
> Someone should scarf it up though.
> 
> On Tue, September 21, 2010 11:39 pm, Keith Kinney wrote:
>> Here's what you need Arnie:
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220670614072#ht_645wt_1139
> 
> 
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 22 10:03:36 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:03:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <A75FD7E8-7E88-4427-B010-E41E7EFED85F@windstream.net>
References: <b3b38f44bbde06148caa289455e28641.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<698DC190-F54A-405E-8703-1C566424FDBE@herculesengines.com>
	<9a9842f9d933acf7d420fff489a1c11b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<A75FD7E8-7E88-4427-B010-E41E7EFED85F@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <1d3803df5597dddd0037e50bfcb67afc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

GREAT pep talk Mike!!  Thanks.  Truly, I have too many "projects" in the shed now. 
What I need to do is to sell off some of the projects that I know in my heart that
I'll never finish and not take on another project that I know I'll not get finished.
Far better that the spray rig goes to some eager beaver who will restore it and take
it to Portland where I can enjoy it.  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

PS - It's still out there with just the one bid on it...

On Wed, September 22, 2010 12:09 pm, Michael Tucker wrote:
> Oh those are lame assed excuses! You told us what you would like to have and Keith
> pointed you to a great example of one that's at a pretty good price and is pretty
> close to you. Your reply is no time or space!!! You're going on a 7 day weekend at
> some point right and the Roysters have perfected and shown us all the instant white
> tarp storage shed so you just need to pony up the cash and go get that little cutie!
>
> On Sep 22, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220670614072




From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 22 11:19:39 2010
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:19:39 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <90bfccd2a349b774321f662dee587769.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za><42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>,
	<ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	<0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>,
	<90bfccd2a349b774321f662dee587769.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <COL112-W470EE426F3B526CFEBADB695600@phx.gbl>


Hi All, Just got back from my daily trip to Harbor Freight.   I had to pick up a new wench today!    Sorry Reg has gone home already, He would have enjoyed this trip!      Sure is getting expensive, but what a nice display they have there!    Their marketing staff is geally good! I've never wanted to shop so much in my life!   Steve

 
> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:13:04 -0400
> From: fero_ah at city-net.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
> 
> G'day Marg,
> 
> No worries m'lady, got the keyboard & monitor sorted. And I think you're on EXACTLY
> the right track shopping the local jewelry stores for a suitable Christmas bauble to
> help clear your mind of the HORROR of being awakened each night by Reg (the
> barbarian) yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!
> 
> And you are SOOOO perceptive at recognizing straight away that the evil Cloistered
> Oyster Steve was at the root of this evil. He is a baddun'!!
> 
> See ya, Arnie
> 
> On Fri, September 17, 2010 7:14 pm, Reg Ingold wrote:
> > Sorry about your keyboard Arnie, hopefully it will dry out. Problem
> > solved, our lovely friend Jerry in Joburg explained it all to me!! It also
> > broke his nightmares too!! I think Steve Royster is at the bottom of all
> > this, he is very quiet just now!! Maybe away somewhere?
> > Anyway, Jerry,s explanation is fine by me.
> > Marg x
> 
> 
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From Germoamer at aol.com  Wed Sep 22 11:33:40 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:33:40 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
Message-ID: <cd000.25da5dc6.39cba604@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 9/22/2010 2:26:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
steve_royster at hotmail.com writes:

Just got  back from my daily trip to Harbor Freight.


Steve,
 
Did you get your free flashlight too?  Got 3 more coupons to  use.  I think 
I have a dozen now and great to have in  cars/shops/etc.  I like free!  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From oldironnut at windstream.net  Wed Sep 22 11:34:51 2010
From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:34:51 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <COL112-W470EE426F3B526CFEBADB695600@phx.gbl>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za><42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>,
	<ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	<0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>,
	<90bfccd2a349b774321f662dee587769.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<COL112-W470EE426F3B526CFEBADB695600@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <019F0CBD-B853-4F6E-8B55-472193374CBC@windstream.net>


On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Steve Royster wrote:

> Hi All, Just got back from my daily trip to Harbor Freight.   I had to pick up a new wench today!    Sorry Reg has gone home already, He would have enjoyed this trip!      Sure is getting expensive, but what a nice display they have there!    Their marketing staff is geally good! I've never wanted to shop so much in my life!   Steve


I think we need a picture of the marketing staff's "display!"
______________________
Michael Tucker
oldironnut at windstream.net
Versailles, Kentucky, USA
______________________






From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 22 11:46:38 2010
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:46:38 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <cd000.25da5dc6.39cba604@aol.com>
References: <cd000.25da5dc6.39cba604@aol.com>
Message-ID: <COL112-W20ADE30B0F1104434B12195600@phx.gbl>


Yes, I have dozens of them as well,  When I see those high beam headlamps as I enter the store, free flashlighs are not in my thoughts!  Steve
 
> From: Germoamer at aol.com
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:33:40 -0400
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
> 
> 
> In a message dated 9/22/2010 2:26:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> steve_royster at hotmail.com writes:
> 
> Just got back from my daily trip to Harbor Freight.
> 
> 
> Steve,
> 
> Did you get your free flashlight too? Got 3 more coupons to use. I think 
> I have a dozen now and great to have in cars/shops/etc. I like free! 
> 
> Tom Schmutz
> Concord, Va.
> germoamer at AOL.com
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 22 11:47:30 2010
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:47:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <019F0CBD-B853-4F6E-8B55-472193374CBC@windstream.net>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za><42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>,
	, <ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	, <0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>, ,
	<90bfccd2a349b774321f662dee587769.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	<COL112-W470EE426F3B526CFEBADB695600@phx.gbl>,
	<019F0CBD-B853-4F6E-8B55-472193374CBC@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <COL112-W23B007D06205B0BD83710395600@phx.gbl>


Mike, I don't think I can hold the camera steady long enough for the exposure!  Steve
 
> From: oldironnut at windstream.net
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:34:51 -0400
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
> 
> 
> On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Steve Royster wrote:
> 
> > Hi All, Just got back from my daily trip to Harbor Freight. I had to pick up a new wench today! Sorry Reg has gone home already, He would have enjoyed this trip! Sure is getting expensive, but what a nice display they have there! Their marketing staff is geally good! I've never wanted to shop so much in my life! Steve
> 
> 
> I think we need a picture of the marketing staff's "display!"
> ______________________
> Michael Tucker
> oldironnut at windstream.net
> Versailles, Kentucky, USA
> ______________________
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 22 11:58:21 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:58:21 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <COL112-W470EE426F3B526CFEBADB695600@phx.gbl>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za><42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>,
	<ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	<0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>,
	<90bfccd2a349b774321f662dee587769.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<COL112-W470EE426F3B526CFEBADB695600@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6485378c245ca58bf4033e1290110cb6.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Steve,

If you need a new winch (in addition to the obvious well-endowed Harbor Freight
wench), be sure to talk to Keith to see how to get a free winch for life.

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, September 22, 2010 2:19 pm, Steve Royster wrote:
>
> Hi All, Just got back from my daily trip to Harbor Freight.
> I had to pick up a new wench today!
> Sorry Reg has gone home already, He would have enjoyed this trip!
> Sure is getting expensive, but what a nice display they have there!    Their
> marketing staff is geally good! I've never wanted to shop so much in my life!
> Steve
>
>> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:13:04 -0400
>> help clear your mind of the HORROR of being awakened each night by Reg (the
>> barbarian) yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!





From rdhaskell at juno.com  Wed Sep 22 12:19:05 2010
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:19:05 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
Message-ID: <20100922.121923.22947.303786@mailpop04.vgs.untd.com>

Thanks to everyone on both lists for their good suggestions, and links.
Next question of the day.  Where can I get a replacement drain hose for
my Maytag washer?  It is the square aluminum tub with water pump.  I have
replaced another on an earlier washer without the pump.  Got a very heavy
hose from Hose Man, it fit but was too stiff and is difficult to keep in
the fittings.  Would like to find a real replacement, remember seeing one
on Ebay years ago but didn't need it then.  Thanks.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
____________________________________________________________
Mortgage Rates Hit 3.25%
If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Obama's Refi Program
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c9a56d4366a42e42fst05vuc


From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk  Wed Sep 22 13:30:52 2010
From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:30:52 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za><42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>,
	, <ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	, <0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>, ,
	<90bfccd2a349b774321f662dee587769.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	<COL112-W470EE426F3B526CFEBADB695600@phx.gbl>,
	<019F0CBD-B853-4F6E-8B55-472193374CBC@windstream.net>
	<COL112-W23B007D06205B0BD83710395600@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <7A52ECD5A0CF458BAE810D3B17350562@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>

Steve ,

You sure could try and if it doesn't work first time keep on trying.

Craig
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Royster" <steve_royster at hotmail.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?


>
> Mike, I don't think I can hold the camera steady long enough for the 
> exposure!  Steve
>
>> From: oldironnut at windstream.net
>> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:34:51 -0400
>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
>>
>>
>> On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Steve Royster wrote:
>>
>> > Hi All, Just got back from my daily trip to Harbor Freight. I had to 
>> > pick up a new wench today! Sorry Reg has gone home already, He would 
>> > have enjoyed this trip! Sure is getting expensive, but what a nice 
>> > display they have there! Their marketing staff is geally good! I've 
>> > never wanted to shop so much in my life! Steve
>>
>>
>> I think we need a picture of the marketing staff's "display!"
>> ______________________
>> Michael Tucker
>> oldironnut at windstream.net
>> Versailles, Kentucky, USA
>> ______________________
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Wed Sep 22 15:02:15 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:02:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
References: <b3b38f44bbde06148caa289455e28641.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><698DC190-F54A-405E-8703-1C566424FDBE@herculesengines.com><9a9842f9d933acf7d420fff489a1c11b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<A75FD7E8-7E88-4427-B010-E41E7EFED85F@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <007601cb5aa1$d1974f60$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Oh don't worry about no empty space, you'll have plenty when you get back 
from Coolspring!!!   It seems Steve and I can't go this year, and he's 
banned in Kentucky,  so we were thinking about taking the empty trailer on a 
road trip........

MR (the good) Royster

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Tucker" <oldironnut at windstream.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.


> Oh those are lame assed excuses! You told us what you would like to have 
> and Keith pointed you to a great example of one that's at a pretty good 
> price and is pretty close to you. Your reply is no time or space!!! You're 
> going on a 7 day weekend at some point right and the Roysters have 
> perfected and shown us all the instant white tarp storage shed so you just 
> need to pony up the cash and go get that little cutie!
>
> See ya',
> Mike
>
> On Sep 22, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>
>> That sure is a cutie allright.  No time and no space...
>> Someone should scarf it up though.
>>
>> On Tue, September 21, 2010 11:39 pm, Keith Kinney wrote:
>>> Here's what you need Arnie:
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220670614072#ht_645wt_1139
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> ______________________
> Michael Tucker
> oldironnut at windstream.net
> Versailles, Kentucky, USA
> ______________________
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From swilliams268 at frontier.com  Wed Sep 22 18:25:42 2010
From: swilliams268 at frontier.com (Steve W.)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:25:42 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question
In-Reply-To: <BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CF@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>
References: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174><BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CE@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>	<02b201cb59f9$87dbd150$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
	<BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CF@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>
Message-ID: <4C9AAC96.7010305@frontier.com>

> I had a chance to perform a detailed inspection of the Cummins LI-600 diesel
> engines on our GE 80 ton locomotive. The front engine is stuck, most likely
> from water in one or more cylinders. One head is missing and the cylinder
> wall is a bit rusty so this may be the one that is stuck.

Sort of points that way.

You should be able to find a sleeve that would fit it. Piston will
likely be the hard part to find.

http://www.westcoastdiesel.com/ might have something around

> 
> The rear engine does run, however the no. 2 connecting rod bearing
> disintegrated and apparently the engine was kept in service for a while
> longer probably until the knock became too much to listen to. The crankpin
> is now of course galled. I have not yet taken a mic to it to find out how
> much metal was lost. Actually only one liner was still somewhat intact, the
> other one was in the bottom of the pan in a million pieces.
> 
> I need to be able to move this locomotive under its own power to get it out
> of where it is at and into a new location for rebuilding, probably two miles
> total. So I am now thinking if there is a way that I can run the engine on
> five cylinders for long enough to get it where it needs to go.
> 
> Some of the issues with doing this would be whether it would be better to
> try to clean up the journal as much as possible, put in a new liner,
> disconnect the injector and engage the compression release on that cylinder,
> or to remove the connecting rod, tie the piston and rod out of the way and
> install a machined clamp that would provide some of the weight of the rod
> and seal off the oil hole.
> 
> Anyone ever have to do something like this on a diesel engine? Would such a
> temporary repair work?

Easy way would be to disable the injector to that cylinder. Then pull
the rod up out of the way with a simple strap. Should run well enough to
move that far. To keep the oil hole closed the easiest way would be a
simple clamp like a muffler clamp with a chunk of strap over the oil
hole. Run it just above idle and it should be fine.

Done similar things with engines out in the field and rigged it enough
to get it loaded or back to the shop.

> 
> For the uninitiated, the LI-600 is a six cylinder inline engine, generating
> 250 HP at 1000 RPM. 7" bore, 10" stroke. Crankpin is 4.25" dia. First
> produced in 1929, this engine was built in 1944. Parts are somewhat
> available.
> 
> Rick Rowlands
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
Captain Steven Williams
Van Hornesville Fire Dept.


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 22 19:17:29 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:17:29 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <007601cb5aa1$d1974f60$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <b3b38f44bbde06148caa289455e28641.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><698DC190-F54A-405E-8703-1C566424FDBE@herculesengines.com><9a9842f9d933acf7d420fff489a1c11b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<A75FD7E8-7E88-4427-B010-E41E7EFED85F@windstream.net>
	<007601cb5aa1$d1974f60$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <6a0f4d3d8f66f92d99840d0da52c387f.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Don't pay ANY attention to those "Radioactive Material" signs.
It's just a rumor that I have a side business storing radioactive waste.
heh-heh-heh

PS - Leave that Geiger counter at home!

On Wed, September 22, 2010 6:02 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> Oh don't worry about no empty space, you'll have plenty when you get back
> from Coolspring!!!   It seems Steve and I can't go this year, and he's
> banned in Kentucky,  so we were thinking about taking the empty trailer on a
> road trip........
>
> MR (the good) Royster





From mr at carolina.rr.com  Wed Sep 22 19:38:54 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:38:54 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
References: <b3b38f44bbde06148caa289455e28641.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><698DC190-F54A-405E-8703-1C566424FDBE@herculesengines.com><9a9842f9d933acf7d420fff489a1c11b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><A75FD7E8-7E88-4427-B010-E41E7EFED85F@windstream.net><007601cb5aa1$d1974f60$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
	<6a0f4d3d8f66f92d99840d0da52c387f.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <001201cb5ac8$7758f9f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Don't you worry none, we cain't read...........


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.


> Don't pay ANY attention to those "Radioactive Material" signs.
> It's just a rumor that I have a side business storing radioactive waste.
> heh-heh-heh
>
> PS - Leave that Geiger counter at home!
>
> On Wed, September 22, 2010 6:02 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
>> Oh don't worry about no empty space, you'll have plenty when you get back
>> from Coolspring!!!   It seems Steve and I can't go this year, and he's
>> banned in Kentucky,  so we were thinking about taking the empty trailer 
>> on a
>> road trip........
>>
>> MR (the good) Royster
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From asouth42 at embarqmail.com  Wed Sep 22 21:18:10 2010
From: asouth42 at embarqmail.com (Arthur&Deana Southwell)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 00:18:10 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Oil Field Engines
Message-ID: <08AD4C3055CD48E18D6A50BAE62A6C1C@Arthurhplaptop>

I'm going to look at some oil field engines out west in Oct. If anyone is interested in purchasing a medium size oil field engine, 1000 to 2000 pounds I'm guessing, I will serve as your agent and possibly transport for expenses to TX, LA, MS, AL, GA, & FL. Other states will cost more. Call me for more info if interested. Dead line is Oct. 20th, 2010.
The engines can be viewed at the website below. If the site doesn't work for you, I can email the photos to you.

http://community.webshots.com/album/578623593tQXwwH

Arthur Southwell
Arcadia, FL, USA.

863-494-6813

asouth42 at embarqmail.com

From Germoamer at aol.com  Thu Sep 23 04:16:59 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 07:16:59 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
Message-ID: <5e58.27c1ee27.39cc912b@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 9/22/2010 6:09:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
mr at carolina.rr.com writes:

so we  were thinking about taking the empty trailer on a 
road  trip.


Be careful of coming thru Virginia.  There are some mean sob's that  live 
in the state!  
Kentucky follows the law, but Virginian's make their own lots of  times!
Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From jnyost at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 23 05:58:00 2010
From: jnyost at yahoo.com (James Yost)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 05:58:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <20100921.115152.965.9810@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100921.115152.965.9810@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <418525.47581.qm@web112603.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hey all

I found one of these in my neighbors barn about 6 to 8 years ago. Mine is a F.E. 
Meyers spray rig with a Stover engine like the one on Ebay. The wood is Cypress. 
I restored mine and bought?Cypress wood?from out of Florida and replaced the top 
and maybe a couple of boards on the bottom as I remember. 

?Jim and Janna Yost
Utica, Ohio
USA
jnyost at yahoo.com 




________________________________
From: "rdhaskell at juno.com" <rdhaskell at juno.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Sent: Tue, September 21, 2010 2:51:21 PM
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.

Hi all.
Anyone on the list ever replaced the wood on an old tank for a spray rig?
This one is about 4' long, 3' wide and 3' deep.? Round on the bottom and
held together with metal rods.? My question is about the long boards? on
the sides, the remaining boards are not tongue and groove they just butt
together and rely on the wood swelling up.? These boards have a slight
curve across their width, were them made that way or over the years of
being wet and clamped in place did they curve?
A lot of the original wood is there but saturated with arsenic and now
hazardous material and cannot be used.
Thanks for any suggestions.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
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From toadhill at aeroinc.net  Thu Sep 23 09:11:06 2010
From: toadhill at aeroinc.net (Joe Maurer)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:11:06 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Guts or Balls
Message-ID: <0A1F5CB6CED14373928A10E9C97DF6B9@toadhill>

Ever wondered about  | Guts or Balls...

There is a medical distinction.    We've all heard about people having
guts or balls, but do you really know the difference between them?
In an effort to keep you informed, the definitions are listed below:

                    GUTS - Is arriving home late after a night out
with the boys, being met by your wife with a broom,
                    and having the guts to ask: ''Are you still
cleaning, or are you flying somewhere?''

                    BALLS - Is coming home late after a night out with
the boys, smelling of perfume and beer,
                    lipstick on your collar, slapping your wife on the
arse and having the balls to say: ''You're next, fatty.''

I don't think I have either!!

Joe




From curt at rustyiron.com  Thu Sep 23 12:42:45 2010
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:42:45 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Mike Burn IHC Pioneer Farm Days
In-Reply-To: <0A1F5CB6CED14373928A10E9C97DF6B9@toadhill>
References: <0A1F5CB6CED14373928A10E9C97DF6B9@toadhill>
Message-ID: <b7acd6562cfef4687b41e27dd785823e.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com>


It's that time of year again! Mike Burns will be having his IHC prairie
tractor and threshing show, Pioneer Farm Days, on October 16th.

Mapquest can help guide you at:
<http://www.mapquest.com/maps?address=2715+east+georgia+rd&city=simpsonvill
e&state=sc&country=US>

Address is:
2715 East Georgia Rd.
Simpsonville, SC

If you have a steel wheeled IHC prairie tractor or early IHC engines
please bring them! Working displays welcomed, wood sawing, corn shelling,
grinding, etc.

Mike's cell number is 864-414-1996.

Hope to see ya'll there.

Curt Holland




From asouth42 at embarqmail.com  Thu Sep 23 13:01:19 2010
From: asouth42 at embarqmail.com (Arthur & Deana Southwell)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:01:19 -0400
Subject: [SEL] oil field engine pumping
Message-ID: <278381065066425BA06D36EB5E92BBB1@DELL>





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky0OWzjZCRs










Arthur & Deana Southwell
Arcadia, FL   USA
asouth42 at embarqmail.com



From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Thu Sep 23 15:34:44 2010
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:34:44 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [SEL] oil field engine pumping
Message-ID: <16786200.1285281284490.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

There's a bunch of these just 20 min North of me Arthur.  You can drive right up to them if you like.  

Tim Christoff
Basehor, KS.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Arthur & Deana Southwell <asouth42 at embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 23, 2010 3:01 PM
>To: SEL <stationary-engine at atis.net>, "Old Engine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>, OFES at lists.stationary-engine.com
>Cc: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: [SEL] oil field engine pumping
>
>
>
>
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky0OWzjZCRs
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Arthur & Deana Southwell
>Arcadia, FL   USA
>asouth42 at embarqmail.com
>
>_______________________________________________
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Sep 24 06:51:40 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:51:40 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Interesting "Tool" for Making Patterns
Message-ID: <50a1a178dd2cfb333df6f9cf558e1339.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Industrial parts replicator "printers" are fairly expensive.
This "open source" project attempts to explore the technology on a shoestring.

http://www.fabathome.org/?q=node/1

>From the FAQ...

What materials can you use?

The Fab at Home can build nearly anything out of any kind of liquid or paste that you
can imagine dispensing from a syringe. We have tried using household silicone rubber
caulk, epoxy, cheese, chocolate (with a small heater attached to the syringe tool),
cake frosting, ceramic clay (when mixed with sufficient water), PlayDoh, and gypsum
plaster.

Pretty neat...

So, for your next party build a detailed cheddar cheese Hercules.  8-))

See ya,  Arnie





From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Fri Sep 24 11:11:05 2010
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:11:05 -0400
Subject: [SEL] free winch for life ?
In-Reply-To: <6485378c245ca58bf4033e1290110cb6.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za><42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>,
	, <ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	, <0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>, ,
	<90bfccd2a349b774321f662dee587769.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	<COL112-W470EE426F3B526CFEBADB695600@phx.gbl>,
	<6485378c245ca58bf4033e1290110cb6.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <COL112-W156A702977210F933A9AB495620@phx.gbl>



 Ok Keith, lets have the scoop on the free winches, or did Arnie really mean Wenches?  Steve
 
 
>> Steve,
> 
> If you need a new winch (in addition to the obvious well-endowed Harbor Freight
> wench), be sure to talk to Keith to see how to get a free winch for life.
> 
> See ya, Arnie
> 
> 		 	   		  

From rob at rustyiron.com  Sun Sep 26 20:55:42 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 20:55:42 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Campbell Brochure
Message-ID: <CCAB7D69-E1B6-4C0F-976A-D37F312CF19F@rustyiron.com>

Long overdue:
http://www.rustyiron.com/literature/Campbell_Catalog.pdf
It's a 23 MB pdf file, suitable for printing.





From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 29 07:20:02 2010
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:20:02 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
Message-ID: <SNT118-W260AA079E0C7DD90840FDAC8670@phx.gbl>


Could someone give me the dates for the Portland 2011 show?   Any idea what the feature engine is?

Luke Tonneberger
Rockford, Michigan
USA 

 		 	   		  

From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 29 07:47:10 2010
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:47:10 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2010 Show Pictures and a Video
Message-ID: <SNT118-W34CFECBCE264780F3618D1C8670@phx.gbl>


Enjoy!
 
http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/port10/portland2010.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu6OlT5anVw

Luke Tonneberger
Rockford, Michigan
USA 

 		 	   		  

From frappi at wcoil.com  Wed Sep 29 08:00:17 2010
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:00:17 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
In-Reply-To: <SNT118-W260AA079E0C7DD90840FDAC8670@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT118-W260AA079E0C7DD90840FDAC8670@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20100929150016.310F593B7@smtp.wcoil.com>


August 24-28  is the date. No idea the feature.  You would think that 
this would be on their web site but if it is I can not find it. Had 
to dig out a magnet to get the date.   Mark


At 10:20 AM 9/29/2010, you wrote:

>Could someone give me the dates for the Portland 2011 show?   Any 
>idea what the feature engine is?
>
>Luke Tonneberger
>Rockford, Michigan
>USA
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com  



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 29 08:16:16 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:16:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
In-Reply-To: <SNT118-W260AA079E0C7DD90840FDAC8670@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT118-W260AA079E0C7DD90840FDAC8670@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8bd013a6a7e1b2e41f544f96baf97c86.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Luke,

Portland 2011 is May 18-21, 2011.  I don't know the feature.

Arnie

On Wed, September 29, 2010 10:20 am, Luke Tonneberger wrote:
>
> Could someone give me the dates for the Portland 2011 show?   Any idea what the
> feature engine is?




From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 29 08:08:52 2010
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:08:52 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
In-Reply-To: <20100929150016.310F593B7@smtp.wcoil.com>
References: <SNT118-W260AA079E0C7DD90840FDAC8670@phx.gbl>,
	<20100929150016.310F593B7@smtp.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <SNT118-W21AE5143F861C75BF556D3C8670@phx.gbl>


Thanks Mark. Yea, I looked on their web page also and could not find it. I couldn't find anything laying around with next years date on it either.

Luke Tonneberger
Rockford, Michigan
USA 


 
> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:00:17 -0400
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> From: frappi at wcoil.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
> 
> 
> August 24-28 is the date. No idea the feature. You would think that 
> this would be on their web site but if it is I can not find it. Had 
> to dig out a magnet to get the date. Mark
> 
> 
> At 10:20 AM 9/29/2010, you wrote:
> 
> >Could someone give me the dates for the Portland 2011 show? Any 
> >idea what the feature engine is?
> >
> >Luke Tonneberger
> >Rockford, Michigan
> >USA
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >SEL mailing list
> >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> 
> Mark Shulaw
> 454 County Road 33
> Bluffton, OH. 45817
> USA
> 
> Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
> Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
> VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 29 08:30:10 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:30:10 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
In-Reply-To: <8bd013a6a7e1b2e41f544f96baf97c86.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <SNT118-W260AA079E0C7DD90840FDAC8670@phx.gbl>
	<8bd013a6a7e1b2e41f544f96baf97c86.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <99a809263164308e27ea8673a6e21e4c.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Oops...  That's the swap meet.

On Wed, September 29, 2010 11:16 am, Arnie Fero wrote:
> Portland 2011 is May 18-21, 2011.  I don't know the feature.





From MBellar at aol.com  Wed Sep 29 08:23:19 2010
From: MBellar at aol.com (MBellar at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:23:19 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
Message-ID: <4dcd9.3044f5f6.39d4b3e7@aol.com>

Show date August 24-27 2011
Tractor:  Minneapolis Moline
Engine:: Illinois -Built Engines
As stated on the last page of the 2010 show book
 
Tom
 
In a message dated 9/29/2010 11:06:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
frappi at wcoil.com writes:


August 24-28  is the date. No idea the feature.  You  would think that 
this would be on their web site but if it is I can not  find it. Had 
to dig out a magnet to get the date.    Mark


At 10:20 AM 9/29/2010, you wrote:

>Could someone  give me the dates for the Portland 2011 show?   Any 
>idea  what the feature engine is?
>
>Luke Tonneberger
>Rockford,  Michigan
>USA
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL  mailing  list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Mark  Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH.  45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996  Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine  parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com   

_______________________________________________
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SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 29 08:26:39 2010
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:26:39 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
In-Reply-To: <8bd013a6a7e1b2e41f544f96baf97c86.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <SNT118-W260AA079E0C7DD90840FDAC8670@phx.gbl>,
	<8bd013a6a7e1b2e41f544f96baf97c86.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <SNT118-W47E1396CDFA89135E7DA41C8670@phx.gbl>


Arnie,
 
That's probably for the swap meet. I was looking for the show. Mark Shulaw got me the dates. Aug 24-28. I'm getting ready to make reservations.

Luke Tonneberger
Rockford, Michigan
USA 

===========================
 
> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:16:16 -0400
> From: fero_ah at city-net.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
> 
> Luke,
> 
> Portland 2011 is May 18-21, 2011. I don't know the feature.
> 
> Arnie
> 
> On Wed, September 29, 2010 10:20 am, Luke Tonneberger wrote:
> >
> > Could someone give me the dates for the Portland 2011 show? Any idea what the
> > feature engine is?
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 29 08:45:09 2010
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:45:09 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Videos from Portland 2010
Message-ID: <SNT118-W6523DC5C45EB1EE2C606ACC8670@phx.gbl>


I have uploaded some more videos from the Portland 2010 show.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS1VdF3BNQ8
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMcKBQ4K68g
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkDGtkE16cg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpt8RdmKmO0

Luke Tonneberger
Rockford, Michigan
USA 

 		 	   		  

From frappi at wcoil.com  Wed Sep 29 10:40:33 2010
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:40:33 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
In-Reply-To: <SNT118-W21AE5143F861C75BF556D3C8670@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT118-W260AA079E0C7DD90840FDAC8670@phx.gbl>
	<20100929150016.310F593B7@smtp.wcoil.com>
	<SNT118-W21AE5143F861C75BF556D3C8670@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20100929174029.7508D937A@smtp.wcoil.com>


Luke,
I've sent emails rattling a couple of cages to get the ball rolling 
to get 2011 info on the web site.      Mark


At 11:08 AM 9/29/2010, you wrote:

>Thanks Mark. Yea, I looked on their web page also and could not find 
>it. I couldn't find anything laying around with next years date on it either.
>
>Luke Tonneberger
>Rockford, Michigan
>USA
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:00:17 -0400
> > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > From: frappi at wcoil.com
> > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
> >
> >
> > August 24-28 is the date. No idea the feature. You would think that
> > this would be on their web site but if it is I can not find it. Had
> > to dig out a magnet to get the date. Mark
> >
> >
> > At 10:20 AM 9/29/2010, you wrote:
> >
> > >Could someone give me the dates for the Portland 2011 show? Any
> > >idea what the feature engine is?
> > >
> > >Luke Tonneberger
> > >Rockford, Michigan
> > >USA
> > >
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >SEL mailing list
> > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> >
> >
> > Mark Shulaw
> > 454 County Road 33
> > Bluffton, OH. 45817
> > USA
> >
> > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
> > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
> > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com  



From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Wed Sep 29 20:14:55 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:14:55 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Clear out of engines
Message-ID: <C8CA3DCF.5CF4%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

Sadly I am having to part with some engines. I have listed some on eBay but
if there are any list members interested I can do them a special deal :)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270642635966

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270640047991

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270642633074

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270642623878


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From plowe at exemail.com.au  Thu Sep 30 06:02:46 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 23:02:46 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Austin two cylinder engine
Message-ID: <5A3418C304B4417F8D95D96AF854BC84@peterlowe>

Hi all
A friend here is after information on an Austin two cylinder engine, double overhead cam shaft, water cooled this was driving a 32v generator.
Year is around 1926 - 27 we think.

Pictures and manual would be handy also.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Skype name: ozengines

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Sep 30 08:31:59 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:31:59 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Apple & Arts this Weekend
Message-ID: <f48b28d187ac118ac83b34f7596b6c0f.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Folks,

If you're near the Pittsburgh area and are looking for a fun little show, Apple &
Arts in Delmont, PA is this Saturday & Sunday.  Lots to see and do and the best
selection of apples and apple cider you could want.

See ya,  Arnie






From stevebarr at ameritech.net  Thu Sep 30 08:52:54 2010
From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 08:52:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Apple & Arts this Weekend
In-Reply-To: <f48b28d187ac118ac83b34f7596b6c0f.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <741438.96563.qm@web82001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

?
See ya there Arnie...? We leave this afternoon...
?
Steve


--- On Thu, 9/30/10, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:


From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
Subject: Apple & Arts this Weekend
To: "Old Engine List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>, "Stationary Engine List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Thursday, September 30, 2010, 10:31 AM


Folks,

If you're near the Pittsburgh area and are looking for a fun little show, Apple &
Arts in Delmont, PA is this Saturday & Sunday.? Lots to see and do and the best
selection of apples and apple cider you could want.

See ya,? Arnie



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Thu Sep 30 10:19:26 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 19:19:26 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Apple & Arts this Weekend
In-Reply-To: <f48b28d187ac118ac83b34f7596b6c0f.squirrel@webmail.city-net .com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100930191504.020bf290@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>

At 05:31 PM 30/09/2010, Arnie Fero wrote:
>Folks,
>
>If you're near the Pittsburgh area and are looking for a fun little show, 
>Apple &
>Arts in Delmont, PA is this Saturday & Sunday.  Lots to see and do and the 
>best
>selection of apples and apple cider you could want.
>
>See ya,  Arnie


Hi Arnie,
         Jacqui was sitting next to me when I opened this mail.

         Her comment, "Must be "Arnie"- the food and drink part gave it 
away" :-)

         Your reputation precedes you.

Keep well,
Jerry (and Jacqui). 

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Sep 30 12:45:31 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:45:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Apple & Arts this Weekend
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100930191504.020bf290@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100930191504.020bf290@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
Message-ID: <d8289ce84f56ed76a819fc61e9d249ae.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Jerry (and Jacqui),

I do love my food and drink at rallys!!  Now if we followed the English model, that
cider I referred to would be something really interesting like scrumpy.  8->>

Still and all the food at A&A is way above average.  They have one vendor with a hot
sausage sandwich that is to die for.  Lots of other good stuff to eat.  Two
highlights are home made apple pie and apple dumplings.

You two should come over.

See ya,  Arnie

On Thu, September 30, 2010 1:19 pm, Jerry Evans wrote:
> At 05:31 PM 30/09/2010, Arnie Fero wrote:
>> Apple & Arts in Delmont, PA is this Saturday & Sunday.
>> Lots to see and do and the best selection of apples and
>> apple cider you could want.
>>
> Jacqui was sitting next to me when I opened this mail.
> Her comment, "Must be "Arnie"- the food and drink part gave it
> away" :-)
>
> Your reputation precedes you.





From avanti_64 at juno.com  Thu Sep 30 16:34:26 2010
From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 23:34:26 GMT
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Re:  Apple & Arts this Weekend
Message-ID: <20100930.193426.14591.0@webmail24.vgs.untd.com>

Arnie, I remember it well. I think I had Dave Huling with me when we attended many years ago. Seems like it was later in the year! (After the CS Fall show?) I picked up some Halloween decorations for the wife and she is still using them.
Joe

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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 30 16:51:00 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:51:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] I need pickup help.
Message-ID: <293171.51441.qm@web111720.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Is anyone on these lists near Toms River, NJ?
There is a corn sheller on ebay I would like to bid on but that is too far away for the Local Pickup Only.
?
Alan in Michigan

From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Sep  1 04:47:29 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 12:47:29 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Baraboo Videos
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikMa0_sk5HGdhXHzkdAkByaD17b5S18V4q-B1OS@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikMa0_sk5HGdhXHzkdAkByaD17b5S18V4q-B1OS@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimmDOe1R2ta_O-Nywk71nt6q9+q2oo39u5bkbkF@mail.gmail.com>

On 31 August 2010 23:53, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm slowly working through the five mini-DVD's of videos for the
> Baraboo and Portland Shows.

Today's output so far:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP0mqBEsZJg
Steam sawing No3, Baraboo 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrGbI9md81M
Davis Flat Twin Engines, Baraboo 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHNU6rJCnws
Mineapolis Engine on the woodshop sawbench, Baraboo 2010

More later, I can leave the netbook processing and uploading while I'm
in the workshop :-))

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From oilengine at embarqmail.com  Wed Sep  1 17:32:28 2010
From: oilengine at embarqmail.com (Russell Farmer)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 20:32:28 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
Message-ID: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>

Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to post to the list.
I got my e-mail addresses subscribed via the wrong one-(Must be for the outgoing, not an inbox server)
Greetings to all if it works this time.
R. Farmer
No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.


From clemsweller at etczone.com  Wed Sep  1 17:45:27 2010
From: clemsweller at etczone.com (Chuck Emsweller)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 20:45:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
In-Reply-To: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
References: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
Message-ID: <C6208AB48DF5475F965360187F8CDFB0@ChuckDesktopPC>

Rusty,

Welcome aboard!  Didn't get a chance to talk with you much in Portland.
Wanted to let you know that the engine bug has transcended another
generation.  My 3 year old Grandson started the Maytag by himself at the
Greensburg show.  Pretty good considering he had never seen one before.

I'm sure that it will be a passing thing once he can pull the flywheels of
grandpa's larger engines.

See you in Brookville

Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell Farmer
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:32 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!

Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to post to the
list.
I got my e-mail addresses subscribed via the wrong one-(Must be for the
outgoing, not an inbox server)
Greetings to all if it works this time.
R. Farmer
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep  1 17:54:41 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 20:54:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
In-Reply-To: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
References: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
Message-ID: <ccf222d5bdb15a6e101e5de624771d8e.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Mr. Farmer,  WELCOME to the List!!  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, September 1, 2010 8:32 pm, Russell Farmer wrote:
> Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to post to the list.
> I got my e-mail addresses subscribed via the wrong one-(Must be for the outgoing,
> not an inbox server)
> Greetings to all if it works this time.
> R. Farmer





From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  1 17:53:47 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 17:53:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
In-Reply-To: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
Message-ID: <453596.68881.qm@web111701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Looks like ya did it right, Russ.
Welcome back !!!!!
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Wed, 9/1/10, Russell Farmer <oilengine at embarqmail.com> wrote:


From: Russell Farmer <oilengine at embarqmail.com>
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 8:32 PM


Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to post to the list.
I got my e-mail addresses subscribed via the wrong one-(Must be for the outgoing, not an inbox server)
Greetings to all if it works this time.
R. Farmer
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Wed Sep  1 17:57:17 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 20:57:17 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
References: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
Message-ID: <001201cb4a39$ca9450a0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Russell:

  Contact me off list at:  mr at carolina.rr.com

Thanks,

Mike Royster


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Farmer" <oilengine at embarqmail.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:32 PM
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!


> Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to post to 
> the list.
> I got my e-mail addresses subscribed via the wrong one-(Must be for the 
> outgoing, not an inbox server)
> Greetings to all if it works this time.
> R. Farmer
> No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of 
> electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From rotigel at me.com  Wed Sep  1 18:08:07 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 21:08:07 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
In-Reply-To: <001201cb4a39$ca9450a0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
	<001201cb4a39$ca9450a0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <9426E6DC-DC3D-4315-AD6B-889BD004B18C@me.com>

Be careful re: Mike's request Russ--Be VERY CAREFUL!
	Dave

On Sep 1, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Mike Royster wrote:

> Russell:
>
>  Contact me off list at:  mr at carolina.rr.com
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Royster
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russell Farmer" <oilengine at embarqmail.com>
> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:32 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
>
>
>> Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to  
>> post to
>> the list.
>> I got my e-mail addresses subscribed via the wrong one-(Must be for  
>> the
>> outgoing, not an inbox server)
>> Greetings to all if it works this time.
>> R. Farmer
>> No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large  
>> number of
>> electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep  1 18:15:42 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 21:15:42 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
In-Reply-To: <001201cb4a39$ca9450a0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
	<001201cb4a39$ca9450a0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <5d93ad4dec4c9e8bc20e39c9693ab894.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

DANGER Will Robinson, DANGER!!

The last time that Tommy Turner "contacted" the Cloistered Oyster Brothers off-list,
the plundering of his engine collection began.  Russ, you are doomed, DOOMED, I
say....

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, September 1, 2010 8:57 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> Russell:
>
>   Contact me off list at:  mr at carolina.rr.com
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Royster
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russell Farmer" <oilengine at embarqmail.com>
>
>> Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to post to
>> the list.




From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Wed Sep  1 18:34:23 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 21:34:23 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
In-Reply-To: <5d93ad4dec4c9e8bc20e39c9693ab894.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <B2A59D413822414680B2F0E16DB0CE12@tommydk7hxjr4h>

Russell,
	I agree with Arnie.  Beware!

Tommy Turner




-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:16 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!


DANGER Will Robinson, DANGER!!

The last time that Tommy Turner "contacted" the Cloistered Oyster
Brothers off-list, the plundering of his engine collection began.  Russ,
you are doomed, DOOMED, I say....

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, September 1, 2010 8:57 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> Russell:
>
>   Contact me off list at:  mr at carolina.rr.com
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Royster
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russell Farmer" <oilengine at embarqmail.com>
>
>> Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to post

>> to the list.


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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Wed Sep  1 18:37:17 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:37:17 +1000
Subject: [SEL] R&V show Mount Pleasant
Message-ID: <5241CFC3A9FC44D3B75D0225E8CB149E@PeterPC>

Hi Guys
The R&V show at Mount Pleasant is going to be a blast. Some nice engines rolling in.
Today we spent the day back in East Moline, Illinois at the original R&V factories. There were three R&V Knight and one Moline car there as well. We drove the cars into the original 1905 repair garage where we believe no R&V car has been for 86 years. Photos will appear on the R&V web site soon.

For the FATG's there are hundreds of JD tractors at Mt Pleasant as they are the feature tractor this year, and my son Chris stopped count at 60 steam traction engines as well as many other tractors. I will photograph as much as I can.

I went to the VanDervoort crypt on Monday in Moline, IL where William and his wife are placed, an absolutely wonderful place and as pristine as it was built in 1916. The VanDervoort family have their own room where also Orlando Root and his wife are placed. Photos soon.
This part of the trip and Mt Pleasant is what I came for and if nothing else was well worth the trip and expense.
Today once back at Mt Pleasant I started meeting many R&V Register member, some for the first time.
Hope to catch some LIST guys over the next few days, I know Curt Andree and Joe Prindle are coming.

More soon.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia

From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Wed Sep  1 19:14:17 2010
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 12:14:17 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
In-Reply-To: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
References: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
Message-ID: <2D6DA12D69B142DCBEEA1D61444E874D@KerryPC>

Welcome back Russell but beware of an Oyster bearing gifts

Kerry

Kerry Morris
Lithgow NSW Oz
www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/



> Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to post to 
> the list.
> I got my e-mail addresses subscribed via the wrong one-(Must be for the 
> outgoing, not an inbox server)
> Greetings to all if it works this time.
> R. Farmer
> No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of 
> electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Thu Sep  2 03:43:14 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 06:43:14 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
References: <B2A59D413822414680B2F0E16DB0CE12@tommydk7hxjr4h>
Message-ID: <003001cb4a8b$a57551f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Oh you guys are a riot!!!!!!   I was just wanting to give Russell the option 
on some engines my brother recently acquired out of Kentucky.  :)

MR


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <Lcjudge at scrtc.com>
To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!


> Russell,
> I agree with Arnie.  Beware!
>
> Tommy Turner
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:16 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
>
>
> DANGER Will Robinson, DANGER!!
>
> The last time that Tommy Turner "contacted" the Cloistered Oyster
> Brothers off-list, the plundering of his engine collection began.  Russ,
> you are doomed, DOOMED, I say....
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> On Wed, September 1, 2010 8:57 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
>> Russell:
>>
>>   Contact me off list at:  mr at carolina.rr.com
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike Royster
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Russell Farmer" <oilengine at embarqmail.com>
>>
>>> Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to post
>
>>> to the list.
>
>
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Thu Sep  2 03:45:05 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 06:45:05 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!
References: <E38582005E4C4F5C8DEDD13A915E8C9C@FarmerPC>
	<2D6DA12D69B142DCBEEA1D61444E874D@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <004b01cb4a8b$e7a5bf60$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Oh great, you too!  Et tu, Brute?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry" <ozengine at optusnet.com.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Well lets see if it works now!


> Welcome back Russell but beware of an Oyster bearing gifts
>
> Kerry
>
> Kerry Morris
> Lithgow NSW Oz
> www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/
>
>
>
>> Maybe if I have followed my instructions right I will be able to post to
>> the list.
>> I got my e-mail addresses subscribed via the wrong one-(Must be for the
>> outgoing, not an inbox server)
>> Greetings to all if it works this time.
>> R. Farmer
>> No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number 
>> of
>> electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>> _______________________________________________
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>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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>
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>
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Thu Sep  2 16:50:33 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 18:50:33 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Stewart Little Wonder manual wanted
Message-ID: <11BD939F3828443FBDAF0AEBEC3F084E@PeterPC>

Hi guys
Does anyone have a Stewart Little Wonder manual that I can down load, I have a guy (Yank) that approached me at Mt Pleasant who is looking for info.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia

From plowe at exemail.com.au  Thu Sep  2 16:57:44 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 18:57:44 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Hi From Mt Pleasant
Message-ID: <A08DBFF7760A4185AD3AFCCCF319D8F2@PeterPC>

    Hi Guys
Met some LIST guys today and huge crowds here. The big days are to come, Friday and Saturday.
I would rough guess at 1000+ tractors and hundreds of engines and over 60 steam traction engines, we have over 3000+ photos, so far, to go through when we get home. I am just too tired are the end of each day to care about uploading. Also some great video.
Huge storm went through this afternoon with light hail, the grounds will be a bog tomorrow. Hope non of the R&V guys pull out as I have only been through about half of them after 12 hours today. Dozens of new serial numbers and some seriously new information has come to light today. Well worth the trip.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia

From plowe at exemail.com.au  Thu Sep  2 18:04:34 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 20:04:34 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Video files
Message-ID: <F2C65C9D6CA042D3BA67D5D8BA823E2B@PeterPC>

Hi all
If you were stupid enough to take a good video movie and then realized  you had your camera on its side so the movie plays back sideways, can you turn that around as you would an image file??
yes I was stupid !!!!

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia

From skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com  Thu Sep  2 18:27:31 2010
From: skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com (SKIP CLEVELAND)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 21:27:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Video files
References: <F2C65C9D6CA042D3BA67D5D8BA823E2B@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <C21601B493514306B4F4481E0C9A02E2@YOURDA6F5028CB>

Quicktime Pro says you can. I would have to buy it to use it. I opened a video and clicked on window and it came up.
Skip
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Peter Lowe 
  To: Oldengine.org ; ATIS 
  Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 9:04 PM
  Subject: Video files


  Hi all
  If you were stupid enough to take a good video movie and then realized  you had your camera on its side so the movie plays back sideways, can you turn that around as you would an image file??
  yes I was stupid !!!!

  Regards
  Peter Lowe
  R&V Engine Registrar
  http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
  Australia

From FRM8198 at aol.com  Thu Sep  2 19:01:40 2010
From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 22:01:40 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Video files
Message-ID: <4c210.5ab7af79.39b1b104@aol.com>

Peter,
I suggest you contact Kim Komando.  She has daily tip sheet on  
computers/electronics along with a weekly radio show on  Saturday.  Here is her email 
address - _http://www.komando.com/email-kim.aspx_ 
(http://www.komando.com/email-kim.aspx) 
 
Francis Maciel
Santa Maria, CA 93454
 
 
In a message dated 9/2/2010 6:47:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
plowe at exemail.com.au writes:

If you  were stupid enough to take a good video movie and then realized  
you had  your camera on its side so the movie plays back sideways, can you 
turn that  around as you would an image  file??



From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Thu Sep  2 19:11:25 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 22:11:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Video files
In-Reply-To: <C21601B493514306B4F4481E0C9A02E2@YOURDA6F5028CB>
Message-ID: <9287EFEB2802467DB0A8A7DE7085C833@tommydk7hxjr4h>



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of SKIP
CLEVELAND
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 9:28 PM
Peter,
     We could just play the videos back on a laptop and lay the laptop
its side.

Tommy Turner





  Hi all
  If you were stupid enough to take a good video movie and then realized
you had your camera on its side so the movie plays back sideways, can
you turn that around as you would an image file??
  yes I was stupid !!!!

  Regards
  Peter Lowe
  R&V Engine Registrar
  http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
  Australia
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From swilliams268 at frontier.com  Thu Sep  2 20:16:27 2010
From: swilliams268 at frontier.com (Steve W.)
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 23:16:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Video files
In-Reply-To: <F2C65C9D6CA042D3BA67D5D8BA823E2B@PeterPC>
References: <F2C65C9D6CA042D3BA67D5D8BA823E2B@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <4C80688B.9000707@frontier.com>

Peter Lowe wrote:
> Hi all If you were stupid enough to take a good video movie and then
> realized  you had your camera on its side so the movie plays back
> sideways, can you turn that around as you would an image file?? yes I
> was stupid !!!!
> 
> Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar 
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm 
> Australia _______________________________________________ SEL mailing
> list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com 
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 

http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/products/dvd/Free-Video-Flip-and-Rotate.htm

-- 
Steve W.
(\___/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")


From rotigel at me.com  Fri Sep  3 09:40:44 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 12:40:44 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures
Message-ID: <EA4555A3-1C53-4DCC-992E-5CD1FE88B5CF@me.com>

Hi Gang, I need the site for Reg's FAT pictures. Any help would sure  
be appreciated! THANKS
	Dave


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Fri Sep  3 13:51:48 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 21:51:48 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland/Baraboo Videos
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=DSctbEKp1ha-U0WaxFMUFFU62XJ3bsRr9WBW7@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All:

There are now 14 or 15 (one is uploading now) videos available for the
Baraboo and Portland shows, go to:

http://www.youtube.com/listerdiesel

I will post again when they are all online, we are about 1/2 way there.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Fri Sep  3 14:48:57 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 07:48:57 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures
References: <EA4555A3-1C53-4DCC-992E-5CD1FE88B5CF@me.com>
Message-ID: <CF65A0357D424C378A656364A2D27884@regpc>

Reg with a fat?????   Send him home, NOW.   Marg
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
To: <slick at toltbbs.com>; "The SEL email discussion list" 
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 2:40 AM
Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures


> Hi Gang, I need the site for Reg's FAT pictures. Any help would sure
> be appreciated! THANKS
> Dave
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Sep  3 07:38:21 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 09:38:21 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Mount Pleasant
Message-ID: <3980BC75CC4C4FBEB99DA4EEB93310FB@PeterPC>

Hi all
Caught up with LIST guys Curt Andree, Joe Prindle and Joe Kelley today at Mount Pleasant R&V show.
Around 130 R&V engines, Moline tractors, Moline and R&V Knight cars and R&V memorabilia.
Lots of new serial numbers, lots of new and old faces.
The VanDervoort family arrived this afternoon and we drove around town in a 1924 R&V Knight car.

Off to the local steak house with Curt for supper.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia

From rotigel at me.com  Fri Sep  3 17:07:20 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 20:07:20 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures
In-Reply-To: <CF65A0357D424C378A656364A2D27884@regpc>
References: <EA4555A3-1C53-4DCC-992E-5CD1FE88B5CF@me.com>
	<CF65A0357D424C378A656364A2D27884@regpc>
Message-ID: <08FF5BCA-EBD1-49FC-9832-A5BB6BA82FDA@me.com>

Sorry Marg, I forgot the R. Reg is fine and not at all "fa(r)t." Hell  
216 lbs. on his frame is not all that much!
	Dave
PS, Can you find the pictures that I need?

On Sep 3, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Reg Ingold wrote:

> Reg with a fat?????   Send him home, NOW.   Marg
> Reg & Marg Ingold
> Newcastle NSW Australia
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
> To: <slick at toltbbs.com>; "The SEL email discussion list"
> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 2:40 AM
> Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures
>
>
>> Hi Gang, I need the site for Reg's FAT pictures. Any help would sure
>> be appreciated! THANKS
>> Dave
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
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From rotigel at me.com  Fri Sep  3 18:01:45 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 21:01:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Mount Pleasant
In-Reply-To: <3980BC75CC4C4FBEB99DA4EEB93310FB@PeterPC>
References: <3980BC75CC4C4FBEB99DA4EEB93310FB@PeterPC>
Message-ID: <8615122F-D79C-4212-B6C5-7AF919F182FE@me.com>

Please send videos!
	Dave

On Sep 3, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Peter Lowe wrote:

> Hi all
> Caught up with LIST guys Curt Andree, Joe Prindle and Joe Kelley  
> today at Mount Pleasant R&V show.
> Around 130 R&V engines, Moline tractors, Moline and R&V Knight cars  
> and R&V memorabilia.
> Lots of new serial numbers, lots of new and old faces.
> The VanDervoort family arrived this afternoon and we drove around  
> town in a 1924 R&V Knight car.
>
> Off to the local steak house with Curt for supper.
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe


From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Fri Sep  3 18:49:17 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 11:49:17 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures
References: <EA4555A3-1C53-4DCC-992E-5CD1FE88B5CF@me.com><CF65A0357D424C378A656364A2D27884@regpc>
	<08FF5BCA-EBD1-49FC-9832-A5BB6BA82FDA@me.com>
Message-ID: <DD632405367A49B59C33EF4DF9CD4F49@regpc>

That went through to the keeper!!   I was being rude.   I haven,t opened any 
list pics, so can,t help.   Sorry.   Marg
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> On Sep 3, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Reg Ingold wrote:
>
>> Reg with a fat?????   Send him home, NOW.   Marg
>> Reg & Marg Ingold
>> Newcastle NSW Australia
>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
>> To: <slick at toltbbs.com>; "The SEL email discussion list"
>> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 2:40 AM
>> Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures
>>
>>
>>> Hi Gang, I need the site for Reg's FAT pictures. Any help would sure
>>> be appreciated! THANKS
>>> Dave
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From rotigel at me.com  Fri Sep  3 19:04:06 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 22:04:06 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures
In-Reply-To: <DD632405367A49B59C33EF4DF9CD4F49@regpc>
References: <EA4555A3-1C53-4DCC-992E-5CD1FE88B5CF@me.com>
	<CF65A0357D424C378A656364A2D27884@regpc>
	<08FF5BCA-EBD1-49FC-9832-A5BB6BA82FDA@me.com>
	<DD632405367A49B59C33EF4DF9CD4F49@regpc>
Message-ID: <C3DDCCEA-2980-49AF-A87C-EDB3C02F24D4@me.com>

Hi Marg,
	Reg left you at home with a "keeper?" Is a 'keeper" in OZ the same  
thing as a "pool boy" here in the USA? How old is he? What does he  
look like? SEND PICTURES!
		Dave
PS, You may be beautiful--but NEVER rude!

On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Reg Ingold wrote:

> That went through to the keeper!!   I was being rude.   I haven,t  
> opened any
> list pics, so can,t help.   Sorry.   Marg
> Reg & Marg Ingold
> Newcastle NSW Australia
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>> On Sep 3, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Reg Ingold wrote:
>>
>>> Reg with a fat?????   Send him home, NOW.   Marg
>>> Reg & Marg Ingold
>>> Newcastle NSW Australia
>>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
>>> To: <slick at toltbbs.com>; "The SEL email discussion list"
>>> <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 2:40 AM
>>> Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Gang, I need the site for Reg's FAT pictures. Any help would  
>>>> sure
>>>> be appreciated! THANKS
>>>> Dave
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> SEL mailing list
>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Fri Sep  3 19:47:58 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 12:47:58 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures
References: <EA4555A3-1C53-4DCC-992E-5CD1FE88B5CF@me.com><CF65A0357D424C378A656364A2D27884@regpc><08FF5BCA-EBD1-49FC-9832-A5BB6BA82FDA@me.com><DD632405367A49B59C33EF4DF9CD4F49@regpc>
	<C3DDCCEA-2980-49AF-A87C-EDB3C02F24D4@me.com>
Message-ID: <0D09EFFE07CD4D3BBF0CCEAA6060C26F@regpc>

Reg left me with a keeper????   Does he mean my pussy.................oops, 
cat?   Only us 2 here.   Sigh.   M x
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures


> Hi Marg,
> Reg left you at home with a "keeper?" Is a 'keeper" in OZ the same
> thing as a "pool boy" here in the USA? How old is he? What does he
> look like? SEND PICTURES!
> Dave
> PS, You may be beautiful--but NEVER rude!
>




From rob at rustyiron.com  Fri Sep  3 20:24:39 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 20:24:39 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Reg's FAT Pictures
In-Reply-To: <DD632405367A49B59C33EF4DF9CD4F49@regpc>
References: <EA4555A3-1C53-4DCC-992E-5CD1FE88B5CF@me.com><CF65A0357D424C378A656364A2D27884@regpc>
	<08FF5BCA-EBD1-49FC-9832-A5BB6BA82FDA@me.com>
	<DD632405367A49B59C33EF4DF9CD4F49@regpc>
Message-ID: <58276ECC-4A80-40C7-B7AC-552CB71D0B74@rustyiron.com>


On Sep 3, 2010, at 6:49 PM, Reg Ingold wrote:

> That went through to the keeper!!   I was being rude.   I haven,t  
> opened any
> list pics, so can,t help.   Sorry.   Marg

Too late NOW.  We've already sent all the fat girls home... and they  
were QUITE disappointed.









From sluggo54 at hotmail.com  Sat Sep  4 10:24:12 2010
From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 12:24:12 -0500
Subject: [SEL] R&V Knight
Message-ID: <BAY127-W141044CC6B9E51CE086164CB8E0@phx.gbl>


"Hi all
Caught up with LIST guys Curt Andree, Joe Prindle and Joe Kelley today at Mount Pleasant R&V show.
Around 130 R&V engines, Moline tractors, Moline and R&V Knight cars and R&V memorabilia.
Lots of new serial numbers, lots of new and old faces.
The VanDervoort family arrived this afternoon and we drove around town in a 1924 R&V Knight car.
 
Off to the local steak house with Curt for supper.
 
Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar"

Hi, Peter,

Back in the late 30's, my grandfather bought a 1930 Willys-Knight Model 87 sedan with a sleeve-valve engine. 
The engine was very quiet, almost silent.  Is the R&V Knight also a sleeve-valve? 

He kept that car until he could no longer justify a vehicle for which no parts were available.


Bruce Younger   

05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68   

Madison, SD  

sluggo54 at hotmail.com   



"There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted   
armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter."   

E. Hemingway



 		 	   		  

From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sat Sep  4 04:54:26 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 06:54:26 -0500
Subject: [SEL] R&V Knight
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W141044CC6B9E51CE086164CB8E0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY127-W141044CC6B9E51CE086164CB8E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DEB576EFA5634767BA678AA31DCA7D0A@PeterPC>

Hi Bruce

Yes it was a sleeve valve engine.
When a car with zero parts availability is for sale it reduces its 
marketability I guess, unless you are a real fanatic.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia


>
> "Hi all
> Caught up with LIST guys Curt Andree, Joe Prindle and Joe Kelley today at 
> Mount Pleasant R&V show.
> Around 130 R&V engines, Moline tractors, Moline and R&V Knight cars and 
> R&V memorabilia.
> Lots of new serial numbers, lots of new and old faces.
> The VanDervoort family arrived this afternoon and we drove around town in 
> a 1924 R&V Knight car.
>
> Off to the local steak house with Curt for supper.
>
> Regards
> Peter Lowe
> R&V Engine Registrar"
>
> Hi, Peter,
>
> Back in the late 30's, my grandfather bought a 1930 Willys-Knight Model 87 
> sedan with a sleeve-valve engine.
> The engine was very quiet, almost silent.  Is the R&V Knight also a 
> sleeve-valve?
>
> He kept that car until he could no longer justify a vehicle for which no 
> parts were available.
>
>
> Bruce Younger
>
> 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68
>
> Madison, SD
>
> sluggo54 at hotmail.com
>
>
>
> "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted
> armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else 
> thereafter."
>
> E. Hemingway
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Sep  4 14:30:10 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 22:30:10 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=i-a++p_grXAPhs5fY-TCkiruJKtiCQ1WmX8pH@mail.gmail.com>

The first 48 pictures and menu pages are up at:

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm

and on the US server:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm

Let me know of any missing pages or if you want to add any information.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From briwatt at optusnet.com.au  Sat Sep  4 14:43:42 2010
From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 07:43:42 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Aust, Members
Message-ID: <A6FBAB7AD3CE4B1DA4D31CEFEDB99086@bd32d875216e74>

Can anyone give me Devon Amber`s Email address please?
Brian Watts
briwatt at optusnet.com.au
(03) 97266147

David Watts
damewatt at bigpond.com.au
(03) 87616332

videos..
http://www.youtube.com/user/brianvwatts

From k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com  Sat Sep  4 17:32:15 2010
From: k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com (k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 08:32:15 +0800
Subject: [SEL] date of crossley engine resend
Message-ID: <FB3C18AE333F4CF19A6990DDCA61F434@armstrong>

did anyone get my email re date of crossley engine

 
Hello all, 

Can some body advise me of the age of this Crossley engine So 119308 RPM 600 TYPE VOSE7 BHP 11-12
and where can I get information
can supply photos

regards
Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong
Collectors of old things
Perth 
WA
Australia
Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member
k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com
www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong

From rotigel at me.com  Sat Sep  4 17:34:18 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2010 20:34:18 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=i-a++p_grXAPhs5fY-TCkiruJKtiCQ1WmX8pH@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=i-a++p_grXAPhs5fY-TCkiruJKtiCQ1WmX8pH@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B638AA66-6769-405D-BB6A-5D9A8B8E9688@me.com>

VERY nice Peter. THANKS!
	Dave

On Sep 4, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Listerdiesel wrote:

> The first 48 pictures and menu pages are up at:
>
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm
>
> and on the US server:
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm
>
> Let me know of any missing pages or if you want to add any  
> information.
>
> Peter


From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Sat Sep  4 20:01:02 2010
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 13:01:02 +1000
Subject: [SEL] date of crossley engine resend
In-Reply-To: <FB3C18AE333F4CF19A6990DDCA61F434@armstrong>
References: <FB3C18AE333F4CF19A6990DDCA61F434@armstrong>
Message-ID: <3D5B4111A51548B0808EFD60DF4A1D79@KerryPC>

Yes, did you get my reply
Kerry




> did anyone get my email re date of crossley engine
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> Can some body advise me of the age of this Crossley engine So 119308 RPM 
> 600 TYPE VOSE7 BHP 11-12
> and where can I get information
> can supply photos



From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sat Sep  4 11:02:54 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 13:02:54 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Mount pleasant is over
Message-ID: <716F1F7EDF69448FAC63454634170143@PeterPC>

    Hi all
Well we finished off a great 4 days at Mount Pleasant, Iowa with the R&V engine seminars tonight and a wealth of information shared and gained. Talks on the car, engine, company and ordnance side of R&V Engineering Co.
This has been another major engine show that has been well worth coming all this way for and actually more close comradeship than the 2003 centenary reunion, I think time was the best factor.
Many thanks to Barry Tuller for hosting the show, Joe Prindle for his valued information, Joe Kelley, Curt Andree and all the others boys and gals who made it a great week.
The presence of the VanDervoort family made it all that much more special.
We are off to Chicago for three days R&R (not R&V) and then Los Angeles and then home next Friday.

Thanks to all those at Portland, Indiana and Mount Pleasant for an absolutely great time, as usual. Your are a top bunch.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Australia


From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sun Sep  5 04:23:19 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:23:19 +1000
Subject: [SEL] date of crossley engine resend
In-Reply-To: <FB3C18AE333F4CF19A6990DDCA61F434@armstrong>
Message-ID: <C8A9BAC7.59B8%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

I think I missed it as I have been busy with work and engine rallies. Have
you tried contacting the Anson Museum?
Patrick


On 5/9/10 10:32 AM, "k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com" <k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com>
wrote:

> did anyone get my email re date of crossley engine
> 
>  
> Hello all, 
> 
> Can some body advise me of the age of this Crossley engine So 119308 RPM 600
> TYPE VOSE7 BHP 11-12
> and where can I get information
> can supply photos
> 
> regards
> Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong
> Collectors of old things
> Perth 
> WA
> Australia
> Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member
> k_armstrong1 at bigpond.com
> www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sun Sep  5 04:31:17 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:31:17 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally 2010
Message-ID: <C8A9BCA5.59BB%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

Back from another weekend playing engines. Another excellent weekend at the
Rusty Iron Rally in Macksville. An impressive array of engines and a great
time was had by all. It is always good to catch up with engine people I have
not seen in a while. It is like catching up with family.
I took the 12hp R&V for the 6 hour drive up there and it ran well except for
the fact that it always sulks when it gets wet. It rained all the way up on
Friday and all Friday night. It was fine for Saturday (with big crowds
through the gates), poured Saturday night and was fine and sunny today. The
rain did make the ground very soft. I had to use low range 4WD to pull the
engine and trailer out.
I took lots of pics and will sort them out sometime this week.
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From oilengine at embarqmail.com  Sun Sep  5 04:34:58 2010
From: oilengine at embarqmail.com (Russell Farmer)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 07:34:58 -0400
Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
Message-ID: <746C842773764FE4A7FE831B3C1C2FBA@FarmerPC>

Apparently Mr.Royster (Oyster's) Reputation has preceded himself on the list.  
Send me an e-mail anytime. But I really do not have room to store any more engines. (Trying to learn self control) 
R. Farmer
No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.


From Germoamer at aol.com  Sun Sep  5 05:52:58 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 08:52:58 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
Message-ID: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>

I do not believe I have ever seen an Economy like this.  Anybody know  what 
model it might be?
 
_http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10011.htm_ 
(http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10011.htm) 
 
Thanks for all the great pictures Peter!  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Sep  5 06:12:59 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 14:12:59 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>

On 5 September 2010 13:52,  <Germoamer at aol.com> wrote:
> I do not believe I have ever seen an Economy like this. ?Anybody know ?what
> model it might be?
>
>http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10011.htm
>
> Thanks for all the great pictures Peter!
>
> Tom ?Schmutz

Hi Tom:

I'll be happy to correct any of the captions to the pictures, in this
case I wasn't left with a lot of choice as to the name!

There are another 48 pictures added this morning, you can link between
the four menu pages. I'll get more on later today.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk



From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Sun Sep  5 07:16:22 2010
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 10:16:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
Message-ID: <14684187.1283696183066.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

You would not want any of Mike's engines anyway Russell, acording to his new engine cover they are just Girlie Engines.  Steve is the one you have to watch out for.  Mike is harmless only to be given a bad name by his brother.  Would a person who bought a toy for 2 little boys at the charity auction be someone you would have to be leary of?  

Tim Christoff

-----Original Message-----
>From: Russell Farmer <oilengine at embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 5, 2010 7:34 AM
>To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
>
>Apparently Mr.Royster (Oyster's) Reputation has preceded himself on the list.  
>Send me an e-mail anytime. But I really do not have room to store any more engines. (Trying to learn self control) 
>R. Farmer
>No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Tim Christoff


From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sun Sep  5 10:24:17 2010
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 13:24:17 -0400
Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
In-Reply-To: <14684187.1283696183066.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <E6CD85807ADE4FC3B869B4D49E8B66C7@D2JYVHJ1>

Tim,
	It all depends on whether those 2 little boys are named Mike and
Steve...  I know when those 2 little boys come to my place I lock all
the doors and keep the mags and oilers hid!

Tommy Turner





Would a person who bought a toy for 2 little boys at the charity auction
be someone you would have to be leary of?  

Tim Christoff





From mr at carolina.rr.com  Sun Sep  5 12:03:50 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 15:03:50 -0400
Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
References: <14684187.1283696183066.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <001d01cb4d2d$136081f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Thank you Tim, I'd write more but the eyes are all misty thinking of the joy 
brought to your boys via the Charity Auction!!!

MR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Christoff" <tchristoff at earthlink.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!


> You would not want any of Mike's engines anyway Russell, acording to his 
> new engine cover they are just Girlie Engines.  Steve is the one you have 
> to watch out for.  Mike is harmless only to be given a bad name by his 
> brother.  Would a person who bought a toy for 2 little boys at the charity 
> auction be someone you would have to be leary of?
>
> Tim Christoff
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Russell Farmer <oilengine at embarqmail.com>
>>Sent: Sep 5, 2010 7:34 AM
>>To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
>>
>>Apparently Mr.Royster (Oyster's) Reputation has preceded himself on the 
>>list.
>>Send me an e-mail anytime. But I really do not have room to store any more 
>>engines. (Trying to learn self control)
>>R. Farmer
>>No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of 
>>electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> Tim Christoff
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sun Sep  5 15:49:00 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 00:49:00 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Our annual show
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100905234726.00ddd3a0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi All,
	It's quite late here and I got back from our annual club show an hour or 
so back. Webpage and pics will follow in a few days, I'm not as organised 
as Patrick who has show reports up within 24
hours - this is Africa and things take a bit longer :-)

	The purpose of this mail is just to say what a great weekend I had. Since 
I joined this hobby a few years back I have never ceased to be amazed by 
the really great people I've met. Firstly, on the 2 lists that this mail 
goes to and then to the local guys I've met. I've often said "Engine guys 
are the greatest" and this weekend just proved my point once again. I met 
up with old friends again and met many new friends (the hobby is really 
growing here).

	Our show was fantastic but allow me first to explain that we do not have 
anywhere as many engines as in the USA, Britain or Aus., - we are "small 
fry" when it comes to "numbers" but the cameraderie and friendship shared 
and experienced is as great as any of you will ever experience.
	
	What a fantastic hobby !! I'm on a "HIGH" right now (which has very little 
to do with my consumption of "adult beverages" :-) - I have just had such a 
great time meeting up with "enginemen" and their ladies - what great people 
- real "salt of the earth" people.

	I would also like to say (again) thanks to all you friends on these lists 
(although I've never met you personally) you are all "the greatest". Thanks 
for all the friendship, all the help that is so readily given, the 
cameraderie and just for being what or who you are - "enginemen" (and of 
course your "engine" ladies).

	A message to my special list friend Reg, I hope one of our Yankee friends 
shows you this mail. "Reggie" the little "Alfa Laval" Ronnie "N" that you 
found for me was a STAR. Since I managed to sort out his flywheel problem 
he has behaved himself perfectly. He ran for PERFECTLY for both days  of 
the show - he never missed a beat (that distinctive Ronnie "N" sound). 
Spectators made all the right "OOh & AAgh" sounds. He even outperformed his 
buddy "Rusty" (my Ruston and Hornsby PT) who is my "flagship engine' but 
seems to have gathered some dirt in his carb which I will sort out next 
week. "Reggie" stole the show - and that's in spite of the fact that Arnie 
said that "If I name him "Reggie" I should expect trouble" :-)

	That's it for now.
Please all keep well,
Jerry



From rob at rustyiron.com  Sun Sep  5 16:09:54 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 16:09:54 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Our annual show
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100905234726.00ddd3a0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100905234726.00ddd3a0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <23D11ADE-5785-47AE-9D94-D47AC5F0448F@rustyiron.com>


On Sep 5, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Jerry Evans wrote:
> The purpose of this mail is just to say what a great weekend I had.  
> Since
> I joined this hobby a few years back I have never ceased to be  
> amazed by
> the really great people I've met.

Right on, brutha!






From rotigel at me.com  Sun Sep  5 18:20:12 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:20:12 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Our annual show
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100905234726.00ddd3a0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100905234726.00ddd3a0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <5A08C693-6A74-4D95-9C38-FD5821367EC5@me.com>

Some of you may not know, but Jerry was very much in evidence at  
Portland as well. The etched plaques (both on site and custom made)  
that he donated to the ATIS Charity Auction brought in a good bit of  
money! All in all we raised about $1,400.00 at the 2010 auction!
	Dave
PS, Thanks to everyone who participated and particularly to Joe for  
buying that cute outfit for his wife!
PPS, Joe, PICTURES?
PPPS, Tim, Did you find any BIG NUTS yet?
PPPPS, Terri, Keep in mind what happens at Portland stays in Portland-- 
mostly!
PPPPPS, Missy, are you taking good care of my King Dick?
PPPPPPS, That's all folks!


On Sep 5, 2010, at 6:49 PM, Jerry Evans wrote:

> Hi All,
> 	It's quite late here and I got back from our annual club show an  
> hour or
> so back. Webpage and pics will follow in a few days, I'm not as  
> organised
> as Patrick who has show reports up within 24
> hours - this is Africa and things take a bit longer :-)
>
> 	The purpose of this mail is just to say what a great weekend I had.  
> Since
> I joined this hobby a few years back I have never ceased to be  
> amazed by
> the really great people I've met. Firstly, on the 2 lists that this  
> mail
> goes to and then to the local guys I've met. I've often said "Engine  
> guys
> are the greatest" and this weekend just proved my point once again.  
> I met
> up with old friends again and met many new friends (the hobby is  
> really
> growing here).
>
> 	Our show was fantastic but allow me first to explain that we do not  
> have
> anywhere as many engines as in the USA, Britain or Aus., - we are  
> "small
> fry" when it comes to "numbers" but the cameraderie and friendship  
> shared
> and experienced is as great as any of you will ever experience.
> 	
> 	What a fantastic hobby !! I'm on a "HIGH" right now (which has very  
> little
> to do with my consumption of "adult beverages" :-) - I have just had  
> such a
> great time meeting up with "enginemen" and their ladies - what great  
> people
> - real "salt of the earth" people.
>
> 	I would also like to say (again) thanks to all you friends on these  
> lists
> (although I've never met you personally) you are all "the greatest".  
> Thanks
> for all the friendship, all the help that is so readily given, the
> cameraderie and just for being what or who you are -  
> "enginemen" (and of
> course your "engine" ladies).
>
> 	A message to my special list friend Reg, I hope one of our Yankee  
> friends
> shows you this mail. "Reggie" the little "Alfa Laval" Ronnie "N"  
> that you
> found for me was a STAR. Since I managed to sort out his flywheel  
> problem
> he has behaved himself perfectly. He ran for PERFECTLY for both  
> days  of
> the show - he never missed a beat (that distinctive Ronnie "N" sound).
> Spectators made all the right "OOh & AAgh" sounds. He even  
> outperformed his
> buddy "Rusty" (my Ruston and Hornsby PT) who is my "flagship engine'  
> but
> seems to have gathered some dirt in his carb which I will sort out  
> next
> week. "Reggie" stole the show - and that's in spite of the fact that  
> Arnie
> said that "If I name him "Reggie" I should expect trouble" :-)
>
> 	That's it for now.
> Please all keep well,
> Jerry
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From yostsw at atis.net  Sun Sep  5 18:35:16 2010
From: yostsw at atis.net (Spencer Yost)
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:35:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland report
Message-ID: <4C844554.5030906@atis.net>

  Where do I even start?   The show was great, the weather was great and 
most amazingly - THE BALL RUNS!   Between my ignorance and bum arm, I 
absolutely would not even have come close to getting this thing to start 
without the generous help of a bunch of people.   So let me start this 
message by thanking them:

Brice Adams - Stalwart friend and full-time Ball mechanic that did not 
let up for a minute helping me with the engine.  He literally spent 
hours every day helping me.

Devin Holland - Its great to have a teenager to help with the tough 
jobs(and he helped with that too), but Devin is more than that.   He is 
delightful bright young man that knows more about old engines than I 
do!(I hope I spelled your first name right???).  He helped for hours 
every day too.

Curtis Holland - He provided a lot of help and guidance, especially 
during bearing shimming.

Steve Weber - Oilfield engine engineer extraordinaire who was able to 
operate the engine so well the engine popped and ran almost immediately 
on its first firing and later taught me to run this engine.

Keith Kinney - Another engine guru that helped at every turn and 
provided all manner of help and guidance and starting assistance (and 
tool rental (-:  )

Steve Sewell and Tim Brown - Without these two guys letting me borrow 
their golf carts, I would have wasted hours walking to and fro in the 
swap area and to downtown Portland

SEL engine list members:   Just about everyone in the engine area helped 
in one way or another - Arnie provided tools, Dave gave me some supplies 
and advice, several lent strong arms to provide starting power (Luke 
Tonnenberger deserves special mention here) and more.   Thank you folks 
VERY MUCH.

AT tractor folks - Gene Dotson constantly checked in and provided moral 
support.   Several helped to locate items in the swap area and the rest 
provided generous and wise counsel (and beer!)

Tri-state:   For providing such a great show and the propane.

Ackers - Taylor Plumbing, Portland IN - They cheerfully and quickly 
ordered pipe and fittings and threaded custom length pipe for me.


In other words, this was a group effort and represents the best of what 
technology and the Internet can do.   I thank all of you from the bottom 
of my heart and hope to see all of you next year.   Here is a quick 
video of it running Friday night.   I am working on long video that 
Brice took, but the video is way too large for You-tube and my web site 
and will get that to you folks as soon as I can manage to figure out how 
to edit it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6Vw9OpXLNo


With very warm regards,

Spencer Yost



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sun Sep  5 21:07:16 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 00:07:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland report
In-Reply-To: <4C844554.5030906@atis.net>
References: <4C844554.5030906@atis.net>
Message-ID: <0b24b0a7d2438d1079177cadd42127c7.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

SWEEEET!!  And the two yellow dogs really set the engine off nicely!

As you described so well below, this sort of "group effort" at Portland is what
makes this group so bloody fantastic and makes Portland so magical.

Well done Spencer!!

See ya,  Arnie

On Sun, September 5, 2010 9:35 pm, Spencer Yost wrote:
>   Where do I even start?   The show was great, the weather was great and
> most amazingly - THE BALL RUNS!   Between my ignorance and bum arm, I
> absolutely would not even have come close to getting this thing to start
> without the generous help of a bunch of people.   So let me start this
> message by thanking them:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6Vw9OpXLNo





From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Sun Sep  5 21:00:56 2010
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 00:00:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
Message-ID: <8217540.1283745656759.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

It was a true Kodak moment Mike.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Royster <mr at carolina.rr.com>
>Sent: Sep 5, 2010 3:03 PM
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
>
>Thank you Tim, I'd write more but the eyes are all misty thinking of the joy 
>brought to your boys via the Charity Auction!!!
>
>MR
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Tim Christoff" <tchristoff at earthlink.net>
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 10:16 AM
>Subject: Re: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
>
>
>> You would not want any of Mike's engines anyway Russell, acording to his 
>> new engine cover they are just Girlie Engines.  Steve is the one you have 
>> to watch out for.  Mike is harmless only to be given a bad name by his 
>> brother.  Would a person who bought a toy for 2 little boys at the charity 
>> auction be someone you would have to be leary of?
>>
>> Tim Christoff
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: Russell Farmer <oilengine at embarqmail.com>
>>>Sent: Sep 5, 2010 7:34 AM
>>>To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
>>>
>>>Apparently Mr.Royster (Oyster's) Reputation has preceded himself on the 
>>>list.
>>>Send me an e-mail anytime. But I really do not have room to store any more 
>>>engines. (Trying to learn self control)
>>>R. Farmer
>>>No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of 
>>>electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>SEL mailing list
>>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>> Tim Christoff
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Tim Christoff


From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Sun Sep  5 21:35:08 2010
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 23:35:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
In-Reply-To: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
Message-ID: <2413C69A-38B1-4352-AD86-DC8F1D8C3439@herculesengines.com>

It is a Waterloo built Economy, the predecessor of the Sparta Economy engines.  A pretty uncommon engine.
If you look at the Model A Sparta built engines you will see some similarities to the Waterloo.
Keith





On Sep 5, 2010, at 7:52 AM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote:

> I do not believe I have ever seen an Economy like this.  Anybody know  what 
> model it might be?
> 
> _http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10011.htm_ 
> (http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10011.htm) 
> 
> Thanks for all the great pictures Peter!  
> 
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord,  Va.
> germoamer at AOL.com
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Keith Kinney
kkinney at herculesengines.com
WWW.HerculesEngines.com






From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sun Sep  5 22:40:22 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:40:22 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Rally Pics
Message-ID: <C8AABBE6.59E1%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

A few pics at:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/ri2010/index.htm
Enjoy.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sun Sep  5 22:48:15 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:48:15 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Portland report
In-Reply-To: <4C844554.5030906@atis.net>
Message-ID: <C8AABDBF.59E6%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

Great stuff Spencer. It sounds as though you all had a great time and had
fun getting your engine sorted. What fantastic people there are in this
hobby.
Patrick




Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Sep  5 23:17:49 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 07:17:49 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
In-Reply-To: <2413C69A-38B1-4352-AD86-DC8F1D8C3439@herculesengines.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
	<2413C69A-38B1-4352-AD86-DC8F1D8C3439@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinCJ+Rz2+ADQP2mt_oCJxb+H4xWmhk5JKQWVod2@mail.gmail.com>

On 6 September 2010 05:35, Keith Kinney <kkinney at herculesengines.com> wrote:
> It is a Waterloo built Economy, the predecessor of the Sparta Economy engines. ?A pretty uncommon engine.
> If you look at the Model A Sparta built engines you will see some similarities to the Waterloo.
> Keith

Thanks, Keith:

There is a second one that looks similar on picture 108.

Peter
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From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Sun Sep  5 21:04:33 2010
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 00:04:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
Message-ID: <26901315.1283745875926.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Come to think of it Tommy, one of the oilers on the Bessie was a bit loose Friday morning of the show but I just thought it might have worked itself loose.  Could it be that I have made a mistake in letting a Royster get to close?

Tim

-----Original Message-----
>From: Judge Tommy Turner <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
>Sent: Sep 5, 2010 1:24 PM
>To: 'The SEL email discussion list' <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
>
>Tim,
>	It all depends on whether those 2 little boys are named Mike and
>Steve...  I know when those 2 little boys come to my place I lock all
>the doors and keep the mags and oilers hid!
>
>Tommy Turner
>
>
>
>
>
>Would a person who bought a toy for 2 little boys at the charity auction
>be someone you would have to be leary of?  
>
>Tim Christoff
>
>
>
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Mon Sep  6 04:35:24 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:35:24 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Rusty Iron Videos
Message-ID: <C8AB0F1C.59F2%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

I took at a few short clips of various engines at the Rusty Iron Rally.
These are at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQuJci-Fsew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il7nsPI3KuM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi258rj9fFM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrBpKvZEAhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDAndh12XX0

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From Germoamer at aol.com  Mon Sep  6 07:19:00 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 10:19:00 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
Message-ID: <57fdf.73f05d55.39b65254@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 9/6/2010 12:45:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
kkinney at herculesengines.com writes:

It is a  Waterloo built Economy


I didn't know that Waterloo had built the early Economy's. 
 
Thanks to everyone.  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Sep  6 07:56:34 2010
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 10:56:34 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
In-Reply-To: <2413C69A-38B1-4352-AD86-DC8F1D8C3439@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <B934142152BC485ABDA56588AF5ED456@D2JYVHJ1>

Keith,

     Just curious, how long did Waterloo build for Economy?  I think
I've seen a few of these style Economy's in the past but they're
certainly few and far between.

Tommy Turner



It is a Waterloo built Economy, the predecessor of the Sparta Economy
engines.  A pretty uncommon engine.
If you look at the Model A Sparta built engines you will see some
similarities to the Waterloo.
Keith






From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Mon Sep  6 08:00:39 2010
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:00:39 -0400
Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
In-Reply-To: <26901315.1283745875926.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <0B34C9B42F1E4C809BA52D31502AF128@D2JYVHJ1>

Exactly Tim!

Tommy Turner


PS:  Everyone (especially any new folks on the List), please know that
we are ribbing the Royster boys to the hilt.  I'd trust them with
anything I've got. (well, maybe I'm going a little overboard....grin).


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Christoff
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 12:05 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!

Come to think of it Tommy, one of the oilers on the Bessie was a bit
loose Friday morning of the show but I just thought it might have worked
itself loose.  Could it be that I have made a mistake in letting a
Royster get to close?

Tim





From rob at rustyiron.com  Mon Sep  6 08:45:36 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 08:45:36 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Portland report
In-Reply-To: <4C844554.5030906@atis.net>
References: <4C844554.5030906@atis.net>
Message-ID: <579CCB42-C817-46D7-82E0-277E84F98190@rustyiron.com>


On Sep 5, 2010, at 6:35 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:

>  Where do I even start?
>


Where do I click the "like" button?






From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  6 09:18:58 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 09:18:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Portland report
In-Reply-To: <579CCB42-C817-46D7-82E0-277E84F98190@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <859188.76224.qm@web111714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

On YouTube.
I was the FIRST.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Mon, 9/6/10, Rob Skinner <rob at rustyiron.com> wrote:


From: Rob Skinner <rob at rustyiron.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland report
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Monday, September 6, 2010, 11:45 AM



On Sep 5, 2010, at 6:35 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:

>? Where do I even start?
>


Where do I click the "like" button?




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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Sep  6 13:55:30 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 16:55:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
References: <0B34C9B42F1E4C809BA52D31502AF128@D2JYVHJ1>
Message-ID: <000601cb4e05$d7e0ad60$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

You boys are a riot!   You would be proud to know Steve stopped by today and 
I showed him the "Girlie engine tarp" and we decided to share it and 
alternate years and engines.  If Russell comes back over we will let him use 
it as well.  I can see this artwork traveling much like the blue handled 
fence pliers or the John Deere china.

MR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judge Tommy Turner" <lcjudge at scrtc.com>
To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!


> Exactly Tim!
>
> Tommy Turner
>
>
> PS:  Everyone (especially any new folks on the List), please know that
> we are ribbing the Royster boys to the hilt.  I'd trust them with
> anything I've got. (well, maybe I'm going a little overboard....grin).
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tim
> Christoff
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 12:05 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] DANGER Will Robinson !!
>
> Come to think of it Tommy, one of the oilers on the Bessie was a bit
> loose Friday morning of the show but I just thought it might have worked
> itself loose.  Could it be that I have made a mistake in letting a
> Royster get to close?
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From avanti_64 at juno.com  Mon Sep  6 18:59:16 2010
From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 01:59:16 GMT
Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Re=3A__Mount_pleasant_is_over?=
Message-ID: <20100906.215916.26616.0@webmail02.vgs.untd.com>

Peter, we had a ball! Great to see you again and meet your son! It was great sharing info and discussions with all the guys...
Can't wait till the next one!!! 
Joe Kelley

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From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Mon Sep  6 20:14:37 2010
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 22:14:37 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
In-Reply-To: <B934142152BC485ABDA56588AF5ED456@D2JYVHJ1>
References: <B934142152BC485ABDA56588AF5ED456@D2JYVHJ1>
Message-ID: <2EB58D0B-4EB7-4384-8626-D70CE9E4D972@herculesengines.com>

Tommy
They Waterloo built engines were advertised in the Fall 1908 and Spring 1909 Sear Catalogs.  Engines after that were built in Sparta, MI.
Keith

On Sep 6, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:

> Keith,
> 
>     Just curious, how long did Waterloo build for Economy?  I think
> I've seen a few of these style Economy's in the past but they're
> certainly few and far between.
> 
> Tommy Turner
> 
> 
> 
> It is a Waterloo built Economy, the predecessor of the Sparta Economy
> engines.  A pretty uncommon engine.
> If you look at the Model A Sparta built engines you will see some
> similarities to the Waterloo.
> Keith
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Keith Kinney
kkinney at herculesengines.com
WWW.HerculesEngines.com






From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Mon Sep  6 20:21:45 2010
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 22:21:45 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <B934142152BC485ABDA56588AF5ED456@D2JYVHJ1>
References: <B934142152BC485ABDA56588AF5ED456@D2JYVHJ1>
Message-ID: <68FE946C-D704-4726-A87D-CFB98D98ADBC@herculesengines.com>

Made a quick trip to Youngstown, Ohio this weekend to pick up a 12 HP Economy.  This makes a full set of Economy engines for us. It had a bastardized ignition system on it and upon getting it home we switched it out for an accurate Webster system.  It is a real horse of an engine with a huge amount of compression.  It runs real well with the new ignition system.  Here is a link to a video of it running.
 Economy 12 HP Hit and Miss Engine


Keith Kinney
kkinney at herculesengines.com
WWW.HerculesEngines.com





From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Mon Sep  6 20:29:56 2010
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 22:29:56 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <68FE946C-D704-4726-A87D-CFB98D98ADBC@herculesengines.com>
References: <B934142152BC485ABDA56588AF5ED456@D2JYVHJ1>
	<68FE946C-D704-4726-A87D-CFB98D98ADBC@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <888FAD4C-1DAD-4C7C-8C1F-016DB2A85F71@herculesengines.com>

OK, here's the link, sorry:
Economy 12 HP Hit and Miss Engine

On Sep 6, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Keith Kinney wrote:

> Made a quick trip to Youngstown, Ohio this weekend to pick up a 12 HP Economy.  This makes a full set of Economy engines for us. It had a bastardized ignition system on it and upon getting it home we switched it out for an accurate Webster system.  It is a real horse of an engine with a huge amount of compression.  It runs real well with the new ignition system.  Here is a link to a video of it running.
> Economy 12 HP Hit and Miss Engine
> 
> 
> Keith Kinney
> kkinney at herculesengines.com
> WWW.HerculesEngines.com
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Keith Kinney
kkinney at herculesengines.com
WWW.HerculesEngines.com





From plowe at exemail.com.au  Mon Sep  6 20:44:10 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:44:10 +1000
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <888FAD4C-1DAD-4C7C-8C1F-016DB2A85F71@herculesengines.com>
References: <B934142152BC485ABDA56588AF5ED456@D2JYVHJ1><68FE946C-D704-4726-A87D-CFB98D98ADBC@herculesengines.com>
	<888FAD4C-1DAD-4C7C-8C1F-016DB2A85F71@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <64839ED28EEB49DAAF7464EE7879DA7E@PeterPC>

You gonna try again Keith, nothing this end.
Peter

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Keith Kinney" <kkinney at herculesengines.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:29 PM
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] 12 HP Economy

> OK, here's the link, sorry:
> Economy 12 HP Hit and Miss Engine
>
> On Sep 6, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Keith Kinney wrote:
>
>> Made a quick trip to Youngstown, Ohio this weekend to pick up a 12 HP 
>> Economy.  This makes a full set of Economy engines for us. It had a 
>> bastardized ignition system on it and upon getting it home we switched it 
>> out for an accurate Webster system.  It is a real horse of an engine with 
>> a huge amount of compression.  It runs real well with the new ignition 
>> system.  Here is a link to a video of it running.
>> Economy 12 HP Hit and Miss Engine
>>
>>
>> Keith Kinney
>> kkinney at herculesengines.com
>> WWW.HerculesEngines.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> Keith Kinney
> kkinney at herculesengines.com
> WWW.HerculesEngines.com
>
>
>
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From christison at coastalnet.com  Mon Sep  6 20:51:24 2010
From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:51:24 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <888FAD4C-1DAD-4C7C-8C1F-016DB2A85F71@herculesengines.com>
References: <B934142152BC485ABDA56588AF5ED456@D2JYVHJ1>	<68FE946C-D704-4726-A87D-CFB98D98ADBC@herculesengines.com>
	<888FAD4C-1DAD-4C7C-8C1F-016DB2A85F71@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <4C85B6BC.3060107@coastalnet.com>

  Perhaps this is it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVi-DSaLtkM

On 9/6/2010 11:29 PM, Keith Kinney wrote:
> Economy 12 HP Hit and Miss Engine



From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Mon Sep  6 21:04:59 2010
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 23:04:59 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <4C85B6BC.3060107@coastalnet.com>
References: <B934142152BC485ABDA56588AF5ED456@D2JYVHJ1>	<68FE946C-D704-4726-A87D-CFB98D98ADBC@herculesengines.com>
	<888FAD4C-1DAD-4C7C-8C1F-016DB2A85F71@herculesengines.com>
	<4C85B6BC.3060107@coastalnet.com>
Message-ID: <7BE75A74-6BF6-4675-8246-77BC172F4CFC@herculesengines.com>

That's it, thanks Ken.  I don't know what I was doing wrong but it didn't include my link.    I've also uploaded some photos to Flickr.  Here's the link but if it doesn't work do a search for Economy 12 HP Hit and Miss Engine or user "HerculesEconomy".
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41076215 at N02/sets/72157624897281142/

Keith


On Sep 6, 2010, at 10:51 PM, Ken Christison wrote:

>  Perhaps this is it:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVi-DSaLtkM
> 
> On 9/6/2010 11:29 PM, Keith Kinney wrote:
>> Economy 12 HP Hit and Miss Engine
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Keith Kinney
kkinney at herculesengines.com
WWW.HerculesEngines.com






From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  7 03:24:09 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 03:24:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
In-Reply-To: <2EB58D0B-4EB7-4384-8626-D70CE9E4D972@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <177077.32511.qm@web111718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Really,
My reprint 1908 Sears catalog does not say Spring or Fall.
All it seems to have for Gasoline?Engines?are some marine engines.
Next is a page of steam engines and boilers.
This is a reprint but it seems to be complete.
Do you have a real 1908 Fall catalog?
I would like to know what page the Waterloo built Economy engines are on.
?
Alan

--- On Mon, 9/6/10, Keith Kinney <kkinney at herculesengines.com> wrote:


From: Keith Kinney <kkinney at herculesengines.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Monday, September 6, 2010, 11:14 PM


Tommy
They Waterloo built engines were advertised in the Fall 1908 and Spring 1909 Sear Catalogs.? Engines after that were built in Sparta, MI.
Keith

On Sep 6, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:

> Keith,
> 
>? ???Just curious, how long did Waterloo build for Economy?? I think
> I've seen a few of these style Economy's in the past but they're
> certainly few and far between.
> 
> Tommy Turner
> 
> 
> 
> It is a Waterloo built Economy, the predecessor of the Sparta Economy
> engines.? A pretty uncommon engine.
> If you look at the Model A Sparta built engines you will see some
> similarities to the Waterloo.
> Keith
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Keith Kinney
kkinney at herculesengines.com
WWW.HerculesEngines.com




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From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue Sep  7 04:47:14 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 07:47:14 EDT
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
Message-ID: <120131.32a37770.39b78042@aol.com>

Keith,
 
Congrats on the 12 hp Economy.  Great engine! Nice looking drip  oiler on 
top too!  I see it has a choke plug inside the carb to make it run  good 
without having to close the external choke plate.   

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Sep  7 07:35:16 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:35:16 +0200
Subject: [SEL] A great gift
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100907142246.01e8da58@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi All,
         Somewhere along the way I must have done something good because 
this weekend at our show I was given a tremendous gift.

         One of our oldest (not in age but in experience) collectors 
presented me with his almost complete collection of "Stationary Engine 
Magazine". He started buying them at issue 13 and stopped about 2 years ago.

         He was now looking for a new home for them and chose me. Wow what 
a treasure trove!!

         As you know, I'm still a newbie to the hobby so to get all those 
back issues is really fantastic.

         Just one more reason that I always say that "Enginemen (and their 
ladies) are the greatest"


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>  

From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Sep  7 08:14:16 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:14:16 +0200
Subject: [SEL] International LB mixer.
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100907170957.01e8c1e0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi All,
         A friend just found an International LB but the tank and mixer are 
missing. The tank is easy to fabricate locally but does anyone have a spare 
mixer (and maybe a few more parts) for sale?

         A suppliers name would also be a good.

Many thanks,


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>  

From mr at carolina.rr.com  Tue Sep  7 12:39:44 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 15:39:44 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
References: <120131.32a37770.39b78042@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000701cb4ec4$6c4244f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Can't wait to see it in person!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Germoamer at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] 12 HP Economy


> Keith,
>
> Congrats on the 12 hp Economy.  Great engine! Nice looking drip  oiler on
> top too!  I see it has a choke plug inside the carb to make it run  good
> without having to close the external choke plate.
>
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord,  Va.
> germoamer at AOL.com
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep  7 14:49:43 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:49:43 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <000701cb4ec4$6c4244f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <120131.32a37770.39b78042@aol.com>
	<000701cb4ec4$6c4244f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <260a4e277b2ea39ef2e4a8d0a26dfb92.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Mike, Even better, plan to be a part of the SEL Biggun Line-Up at Portland 2011.

The plan is to have a row with an example of the biggest engine in each engine line.
For example, Keith would bring a 12 hp Economy and a 12 hp Hercules.  Steve would
bring a 10 hp IHC "M", Dave would bring a 16 hp Galloway, etc.

Do you have any bigguns?  If so plan to bring 'em to Portland 2011.

See ya,  Arnie

On Tue, September 7, 2010 3:39 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> Can't wait to see it in person!
>




From George_Best at adp.com  Tue Sep  7 15:06:45 2010
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:06:45 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <260a4e277b2ea39ef2e4a8d0a26dfb92.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <120131.32a37770.39b78042@aol.com>
	<000701cb4ec4$6c4244f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
	<260a4e277b2ea39ef2e4a8d0a26dfb92.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F463DFE19@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Will the biggest Maytag be welcome in your lineup? ;-)

Maybe you'll want a minimum hp size for your lineup or you may have more small engines in your lineup than large engines.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:50 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] 12 HP Economy

Mike, Even better, plan to be a part of the SEL Biggun Line-Up at Portland 2011.

The plan is to have a row with an example of the biggest engine in each engine line.
For example, Keith would bring a 12 hp Economy and a 12 hp Hercules.  Steve would
bring a 10 hp IHC "M", Dave would bring a 16 hp Galloway, etc.

Do you have any bigguns?  If so plan to bring 'em to Portland 2011.

See ya,  Arnie

On Tue, September 7, 2010 3:39 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> Can't wait to see it in person!
>


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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  7 15:22:45 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 15:22:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <260a4e277b2ea39ef2e4a8d0a26dfb92.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
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Sorry Arnie but I don't think I could convince the rest of the folks at The Buckley club to load up our Snow engine and take it anywhere.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Tue, 9/7/10, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:


From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 5:49 PM


Mike, Even better, plan to be a part of the SEL Biggun Line-Up at Portland 2011.

The plan is to have a row with an example of the biggest engine in each engine line.
For example, Keith would bring a 12 hp Economy and a 12 hp Hercules.? Steve would
bring a 10 hp IHC "M", Dave would bring a 16 hp Galloway, etc.

Do you have any bigguns?? If so plan to bring 'em to Portland 2011.

See ya,? Arnie

On Tue, September 7, 2010 3:39 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> Can't wait to see it in person!
>


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From George_Best at adp.com  Tue Sep  7 15:38:02 2010
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:38:02 -0500
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <506459.24931.qm@web111721.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <260a4e277b2ea39ef2e4a8d0a26dfb92.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
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Alan,

Don't worry.  Your 1100hp Snow wouldn't qualify.  Snow made a couple 5000hp engines.

Remember this isn't a lineup of your biggest engine, it's a lineup of the biggest engines from each engine line.

Of course you could get technical and maybe Snow had different lines of engines and you could slip your little Snow in as the biggest in that specific line.

Which is why I'd prefer seeing the biggest engine from each manufacturer, not breaking it down to biggest of a line.  Of course biggest of a line does make it so more Maytags will qualify.  You know..... largest twin cylinder Maytag, largest single cylinder Maytag, largest vertical Maytag ;-)

George

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Alan
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:23 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] 12 HP Economy

Sorry Arnie but I don't think I could convince the rest of the folks at The Buckley club to load up our Snow engine and take it anywhere.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Tue, 9/7/10, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:


From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 5:49 PM


Mike, Even better, plan to be a part of the SEL Biggun Line-Up at Portland 2011.

The plan is to have a row with an example of the biggest engine in each engine line.
For example, Keith would bring a 12 hp Economy and a 12 hp Hercules.? Steve would
bring a 10 hp IHC "M", Dave would bring a 16 hp Galloway, etc.

Do you have any bigguns?? If so plan to bring 'em to Portland 2011.

See ya,? Arnie

On Tue, September 7, 2010 3:39 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> Can't wait to see it in person!
>


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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Tue Sep  7 15:56:49 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 08:56:49 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Re:  Mount pleasant is over
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Hi Joe
We had a ball mate, god to catch up with you again.
Pete

> Peter, we had a ball! Great to see you again and meet your son! It was 
> great sharing info and discussions with all the guys...
> Can't wait till the next one!!!
> Joe Kelley
>
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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  7 16:11:37 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:11:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F46433276@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
Message-ID: <103185.89408.qm@web111707.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Cool, Who has one of those 5000 HP Snow engines?
I want to see it.
?
Alan

--- On Tue, 9/7/10, Best, George <George_Best at adp.com> wrote:


From: Best, George <George_Best at adp.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 6:38 PM


Alan,

Don't worry.? Your 1100hp Snow wouldn't qualify.? Snow made a couple 5000hp engines.

Remember this isn't a lineup of your biggest engine, it's a lineup of the biggest engines from each engine line.

Of course you could get technical and maybe Snow had different lines of engines and you could slip your little Snow in as the biggest in that specific line.

Which is why I'd prefer seeing the biggest engine from each manufacturer, not breaking it down to biggest of a line.? Of course biggest of a line does make it so more Maytags will qualify.? You know..... largest twin cylinder Maytag, largest single cylinder Maytag, largest vertical Maytag ;-)

George

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Alan
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:23 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] 12 HP Economy

Sorry Arnie but I don't think I could convince the rest of the folks at The Buckley club to load up our Snow engine and take it anywhere.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Tue, 9/7/10, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:


From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 5:49 PM


Mike, Even better, plan to be a part of the SEL Biggun Line-Up at Portland 2011.

The plan is to have a row with an example of the biggest engine in each engine line.
For example, Keith would bring a 12 hp Economy and a 12 hp Hercules.? Steve would
bring a 10 hp IHC "M", Dave would bring a 16 hp Galloway, etc.

Do you have any bigguns?? If so plan to bring 'em to Portland 2011.

See ya,? Arnie

On Tue, September 7, 2010 3:39 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> Can't wait to see it in person!
>


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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Tue Sep  7 16:36:41 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 19:36:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
References: <120131.32a37770.39b78042@aol.com><000701cb4ec4$6c4244f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
	<260a4e277b2ea39ef2e4a8d0a26dfb92.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <001201cb4ee5$869d3c80$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Been trying to acquie a 10 and/or 16 horse Sta-Rite for years.  Who 
knows..........

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] 12 HP Economy


> Mike, Even better, plan to be a part of the SEL Biggun Line-Up at Portland 
> 2011.
>
> The plan is to have a row with an example of the biggest engine in each 
> engine line.
> For example, Keith would bring a 12 hp Economy and a 12 hp Hercules. 
> Steve would
> bring a 10 hp IHC "M", Dave would bring a 16 hp Galloway, etc.
>
> Do you have any bigguns?  If so plan to bring 'em to Portland 2011.
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> On Tue, September 7, 2010 3:39 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
>> Can't wait to see it in person!
>>
>
>
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From rob at rustyiron.com  Tue Sep  7 17:12:57 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:12:57 -0700
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F46433276@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
References: <260a4e277b2ea39ef2e4a8d0a26dfb92.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
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On Sep 7, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Best, George wrote:
> Which is why I'd prefer seeing the biggest engine from each  
> manufacturer, not breaking it down to biggest of a line.  Of course  
> biggest of a line does make it so more Maytags will qualify.  You  
> know..... largest twin cylinder Maytag, largest single cylinder  
> Maytag, largest vertical Maytag ;-)

No Maytags need apply, as Arnie will be showing his Farrar & Trefts  
Maytag-cycle motor.





From rotigel at me.com  Tue Sep  7 19:42:02 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:42:02 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <F60438D7-2C8B-47C3-9C94-DFC9FA3C3E60@rustyiron.com>
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On Sep 7, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Rob Skinner wrote:

>
> On Sep 7, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Best, George wrote:
>> Which is why I'd prefer seeing the biggest engine from each
>> manufacturer, not breaking it down to biggest of a line.  Of course
>> biggest of a line does make it so more Maytags will qualify.  You
>> know..... largest twin cylinder Maytag, largest single cylinder
>> Maytag, largest vertical Maytag ;-)
>
> No Maytags need apply, as Arnie will be showing his Farrar & Trefts
> Maytag-cycle motor.

I'm hoping that Craig will be able to bring his ENGINE. It is indeed  
the LARGEST of all Maytags! See: http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/maytag/maytag_fun.html 
  for "Craig and his 40 HP Maytag!"
	Dave



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep  7 20:33:38 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:33:38 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F463DFE19@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
References: <120131.32a37770.39b78042@aol.com>
	<000701cb4ec4$6c4244f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
	<260a4e277b2ea39ef2e4a8d0a26dfb92.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F463DFE19@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
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You mean Craig Prucha's 40 hp oilfield Maytag?
http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/maytag/Big_maytag2.jpg

You bet it will be welcome "on the line."

See ya,  Arnie

PS - Biggest is biggest.  We don't discriminate.

On Tue, September 7, 2010 6:06 pm, Best, George wrote:
> Will the biggest Maytag be welcome in your lineup? ;-)
>
> Maybe you'll want a minimum hp size for your lineup or you may have more small
> engines in your lineup than large engines.




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep  7 20:44:37 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:44:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] 12 HP Economy
In-Reply-To: <506459.24931.qm@web111721.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <506459.24931.qm@web111721.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <28ea4d4fce8c25bb8f8537f90635f7b4.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

I didn't think it was the biggest in the Snow line...

On Tue, September 7, 2010 6:22 pm, Alan wrote:
> Sorry Arnie but I don't think I could convince the rest of the folks at The Buckley
> club to load up our Snow engine and take it anywhere.




From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Tue Sep  7 21:12:47 2010
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:12:47 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
In-Reply-To: <177077.32511.qm@web111718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <177077.32511.qm@web111718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <09B1D042-5E6C-429A-8176-A5A5AD23ED22@herculesengines.com>

Alan
I don't have the original catalog.  I'm getting my information from Glenn Karch's book on Sparta Economy engines.  He has a chapter devoted to the Waterloo built engines.  He does have a copy of one of the pages from the catalogue and it is from Catalogue No. 118 and is on page 480.
Keith


On Sep 7, 2010, at 5:24 AM, Alan wrote:

> Really,
> My reprint 1908 Sears catalog does not say Spring or Fall.
> All it seems to have for Gasoline Engines are some marine engines.
> Next is a page of steam engines and boilers.
> This is a reprint but it seems to be complete.
> Do you have a real 1908 Fall catalog?
> I would like to know what page the Waterloo built Economy engines are on.
>  
> Alan
> 
> --- On Mon, 9/6/10, Keith Kinney <kkinney at herculesengines.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Keith Kinney <kkinney at herculesengines.com>
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: Monday, September 6, 2010, 11:14 PM
> 
> 
> Tommy
> They Waterloo built engines were advertised in the Fall 1908 and Spring 1909 Sear Catalogs.  Engines after that were built in Sparta, MI.
> Keith
> 
> On Sep 6, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:
> 
>> Keith,
>> 
>>      Just curious, how long did Waterloo build for Economy?  I think
>> I've seen a few of these style Economy's in the past but they're
>> certainly few and far between.
>> 
>> Tommy Turner
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It is a Waterloo built Economy, the predecessor of the Sparta Economy
>> engines.  A pretty uncommon engine.
>> If you look at the Model A Sparta built engines you will see some
>> similarities to the Waterloo.
>> Keith
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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> 
> Keith Kinney
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> 
> 
> 
> 
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WWW.HerculesEngines.com






From rob at rustyiron.com  Tue Sep  7 23:11:35 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:11:35 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Reg Ingold
Message-ID: <C1287432-AF2E-4595-90DA-6BF686F070DA@rustyiron.com>

Anyone seen this Roo Eatin' Borsted?
If so, please ask him what flight he's going to be on.
I'd like to know what airport I'm supposed to drive to.

Thx.





From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Tue Sep  7 23:47:07 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 07:47:07 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>

On 5 September 2010 14:12, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5 September 2010 13:52, ?<Germoamer at aol.com> wrote:
>> I do not believe I have ever seen an Economy like this. ?Anybody know ?what
>> model it might be?
>>
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10011.htm
>>
>> Thanks for all the great pictures Peter!
>>
>> Tom ?Schmutz

We are still working through Portland Wednesday's captions and picture
pages, but there were some interesting items and engines at the show
this year.

The Doak Gas Engine, Grimm Woodworker Engine, Great Western Engine,
Puritan Engine etc were all new for me, and the Whore House Tokens
raised a laugh.

7 menu pages with 168 picture pages are now running on both sites:

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm

http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm

I'd appreciate some help with the items that have no ID on the pages, please.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk



From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  8 02:53:21 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 02:53:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
In-Reply-To: <09B1D042-5E6C-429A-8176-A5A5AD23ED22@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <629059.95311.qm@web111724.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Thanks, Keith.
Mine is Catalogue No. 117 and it is a 1908 so it must be the Spring one.
I bought it because a friend had one and it shows my Toy Electric Engine on page 208.
Page 480 in this one has Rope, Jacks, Block & Tackle and snatch blocks.
So far?I have not found anything with an Economy name in this catalog.
There are a lot of Kenwood named things.
?
Alan

--- On Wed, 9/8/10, Keith Kinney <kkinney at herculesengines.com> wrote:


From: Keith Kinney <kkinney at herculesengines.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2010, 12:12 AM


Alan
I don't have the original catalog.? I'm getting my information from Glenn Karch's book on Sparta Economy engines.? He has a chapter devoted to the Waterloo built engines.? He does have a copy of one of the pages from the catalogue and it is from Catalogue No. 118 and is on page 480.
Keith


On Sep 7, 2010, at 5:24 AM, Alan wrote:

> Really,
> My reprint 1908 Sears catalog does not say Spring or Fall.
> All it seems to have for Gasoline Engines are some marine engines.
> Next is a page of steam engines and boilers.
> This is a reprint but it seems to be complete.
> Do you have a real 1908 Fall catalog?
> I would like to know what page the Waterloo built Economy engines are on.
>? 
> Alan
> 
> --- On Mon, 9/6/10, Keith Kinney <kkinney at herculesengines.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Keith Kinney <kkinney at herculesengines.com>
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures - Waterloo Economy
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: Monday, September 6, 2010, 11:14 PM
> 
> 
> Tommy
> They Waterloo built engines were advertised in the Fall 1908 and Spring 1909 Sear Catalogs.? Engines after that were built in Sparta, MI.
> Keith
> 
> On Sep 6, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:
> 
>> Keith,
>> 
>>? ? ? Just curious, how long did Waterloo build for Economy?? I think
>> I've seen a few of these style Economy's in the past but they're
>> certainly few and far between.
>> 
>> Tommy Turner
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It is a Waterloo built Economy, the predecessor of the Sparta Economy
>> engines.? A pretty uncommon engine.
>> If you look at the Model A Sparta built engines you will see some
>> similarities to the Waterloo.
>> Keith
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> Keith Kinney
> kkinney at herculesengines.com
> WWW.HerculesEngines.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From dtallman at accnorwalk.com  Wed Sep  8 05:07:27 2010
From: dtallman at accnorwalk.com (Doug Tallman)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:07:27 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C877C7F.6060903@accnorwalk.com>

Peter, the thumbnail menu page 4 doesn't seem to work right on 
oldengine.org. Doug T
>
> We are still working through Portland Wednesday's captions and picture
> pages, but there were some interesting items and engines at the show
> this year.
>
> The Doak Gas Engine, Grimm Woodworker Engine, Great Western Engine,
> Puritan Engine etc were all new for me, and the Whore House Tokens
> raised a laugh.
>
> 7 menu pages with 168 picture pages are now running on both sites:
>
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm
>
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm
>
> I'd appreciate some help with the items that have no ID on the pages, please.
>
> Peter
>   


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Sep  8 06:06:41 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:06:41 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <4C877C7F.6060903@accnorwalk.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C877C7F.6060903@accnorwalk.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=WDeb=1wX6M2i+f8Lpc7QzHctW0mM4P3Df_aTz@mail.gmail.com>

On 8 September 2010 13:07, Doug Tallman <dtallman at accnorwalk.com> wrote:
> Peter, the thumbnail menu page 4 doesn't seem to work right on
> oldengine.org. Doug T

Doug:

We have a batch of images missing, so use the UK server for now, I'll
upload a fresh set tonight from home to Oldengine.org/

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Sep  8 06:02:02 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:02:02 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <4C877C7F.6060903@accnorwalk.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C877C7F.6060903@accnorwalk.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinorTwwJgabf+R4F0X1MmLvQNG7sy53sNjF15LA@mail.gmail.com>

On 8 September 2010 13:07, Doug Tallman <dtallman at accnorwalk.com> wrote:
> Peter, the thumbnail menu page 4 doesn't seem to work right on
> oldengine.org. Doug T

Thanks, Doug, I'll check it when I get back home tonight.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Sep  8 06:21:22 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:21:22 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <4C877C7F.6060903@accnorwalk.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C877C7F.6060903@accnorwalk.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=nR6dqMpS-rKjxtrnHyHEffUXgF1ZzAoMO0sNv@mail.gmail.com>

On 8 September 2010 13:07, Doug Tallman <dtallman at accnorwalk.com> wrote:
> Peter, the thumbnail menu page 4 doesn't seem to work right on
> oldengine.org. Doug T

All sorted, I was able to copy from the UK server across to
Oldengine.org via my office PC which has an FTP programme on it.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From marinesurveys at msn.com  Wed Sep  8 06:42:28 2010
From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:42:28 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=WDeb=1wX6M2i+f8Lpc7QzHctW0mM4P3Df_aTz@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>,
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>,
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4C877C7F.6060903@accnorwalk.com>,
	<AANLkTi=WDeb=1wX6M2i+f8Lpc7QzHctW0mM4P3Df_aTz@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <COL106-W65B22DF8438DE5AE710441B4720@phx.gbl>




 Peter;
Just great pix of the Portland Show, I noticed that there were some engines for sale.
I have a friend thats looking for a 1 to 3 HP marine Hit & Miss engine, might you
have any ideas that come to mind, or Names & contact info in that regard ?
 
                  Best Regards
             
           Franklin S. Skinner 
      Marine Surveyor & Consultant 
3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 
       34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West 
PH 910-791-8870  Cell 910-612-7470





 
> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:06:41 +0100
> From: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures
> 
> On 8 September 2010 13:07, Doug Tallman <dtallman at accnorwalk.com> wrote:
> > Peter, the thumbnail menu page 4 doesn't seem to work right on
> > oldengine.org. Doug T
> 
> Doug:
> 
> We have a batch of images missing, so use the UK server for now, I'll
> upload a fresh set tonight from home to Oldengine.org/
> 
> http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm
> 
> Peter
> -- 
> Peter A Forbes
> Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
> http://stationary-engine.co.uk
> http://www.oldengine.co.uk
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep  8 08:19:45 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:19:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <COL106-W65B22DF8438DE5AE710441B4720@phx.gbl>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>,
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>,
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4C877C7F.6060903@accnorwalk.com>,
	<AANLkTi=WDeb=1wX6M2i+f8Lpc7QzHctW0mM4P3Df_aTz@mail.gmail.com>
	<COL106-W65B22DF8438DE5AE710441B4720@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <898890473568431a1e3559ecbc12827f.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Frank,

Your friend NEEDS to go to Portland.  That sale area is VAST!

If his interest is in marine engines, he should go to the show at Mystic Seaport in
Connecticut just before Portland.  That's all marine engines.  Just ask the Louisana
posse that attends both shows every year.

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, September 8, 2010 9:42 am, frank skinner wrote:
>  Peter;
> Just great pix of the Portland Show, I noticed that there were some engines for
> sale.
> I have a friend thats looking for a 1 to 3 HP marine Hit & Miss engine, might you
> have any ideas that come to mind, or Names & contact info in that regard ?




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Wed Sep  8 09:16:27 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:16:27 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <COL106-W65B22DF8438DE5AE710441B4720@phx.gbl>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C877C7F.6060903@accnorwalk.com>
	<AANLkTi=WDeb=1wX6M2i+f8Lpc7QzHctW0mM4P3Df_aTz@mail.gmail.com>
	<COL106-W65B22DF8438DE5AE710441B4720@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinORs+-55bWrA6-7sA2QipG121QbpNYWZDNaAG6@mail.gmail.com>

On 8 September 2010 14:42, frank skinner <marinesurveys at msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> ?Peter;
> Just great pix of the Portland Show, I noticed that there were some engines for sale.
> I have a friend thats looking for a 1 to 3 HP marine Hit & Miss engine, might you
> have any ideas that come to mind, or Names & contact info in that regard ?
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Best Regards
>
> ? ? ? ? ? Franklin S. Skinner

J B Castagnos is a good contact for anything old and marine:

jbcast at charter.net

He is on the lists and may well pick up your request, but second what
Arnie says, there's nothing like actually being there and seeing for
yourself!

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk



From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Wed Sep  8 11:50:26 2010
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:50:26 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Reg Ingold
In-Reply-To: <C1287432-AF2E-4595-90DA-6BF686F070DA@rustyiron.com>
References: <C1287432-AF2E-4595-90DA-6BF686F070DA@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <COL112-W109E8B8E873C98A4F4F3BF95720@phx.gbl>


So Rob, You've lost our Roo Eater?   I hear Mike gave him a pocket full of those whorehouse  tokens so I'd check your local red light district!  Steve
 
> From: rob at rustyiron.com
> To: randmingold at hotkey.net.au; stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:11:35 -0700
> Subject: [SEL] Reg Ingold
> 
> Anyone seen this Roo Eatin' Borsted?
> If so, please ask him what flight he's going to be on.
> I'd like to know what airport I'm supposed to drive to.
> 
> Thx.
> 
> 
> 
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep  8 12:35:35 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:35:35 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Reg Ingold
In-Reply-To: <COL112-W109E8B8E873C98A4F4F3BF95720@phx.gbl>
References: <C1287432-AF2E-4595-90DA-6BF686F070DA@rustyiron.com>
	<COL112-W109E8B8E873C98A4F4F3BF95720@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0ba5562a1491ccd180fccca2fe095fde.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

ROFLMAO!!!  When we warned Reg at Portland that such "athletic" activity could be
fatal; his reply was:  "If she dies, she dies."  Said with his customary leer...

On Wed, September 8, 2010 2:50 pm, Steve Royster wrote:
>
> So Rob, You've lost our Roo Eater?   I hear Mike gave him a pocket full of those
> whorehouse  tokens so I'd check your local red light district!  Steve





From Germoamer at aol.com  Wed Sep  8 14:01:41 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:01:41 EDT
Subject: [SEL] M engine
Message-ID: <99e10.170e2186.39b953b5@aol.com>

1927 International M engine
 
Anyone know if the DuPont #84155 or the DIT (PPG) # 40496 are still good  
numbers for the IH-M green engine paint?  Numbers from Wendel's  Notebook.
 
Thanks,  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From ddotto at cableone.net  Wed Sep  8 17:47:40 2010
From: ddotto at cableone.net (Dave Otto)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 18:47:40 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com><AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>

Hi Peter

Thanks for sharing the great pictures from the Portland show.
By any chance do you have any more of the Falk on the 4th page #80? I would
like to see the other side of the engine.

It appears that the crank has been repaired or replaced; maybe this is the
engine Tommy purchased a few years ago in Canada with a broken crank?

Best regards,
Dave


Dave Otto
Boise, Idaho
USA



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:47 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures

On 5 September 2010 14:12, Listerdiesel <listerdiesel at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5 September 2010 13:52, ?<Germoamer at aol.com> wrote:
>> I do not believe I have ever seen an Economy like this. ?Anybody know
?what
>> model it might be?
>>
>>http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10011.htm
>>
>> Thanks for all the great pictures Peter!
>>
>> Tom ?Schmutz

We are still working through Portland Wednesday's captions and picture
pages, but there were some interesting items and engines at the show
this year.

The Doak Gas Engine, Grimm Woodworker Engine, Great Western Engine,
Puritan Engine etc were all new for me, and the Whore House Tokens
raised a laugh.

7 menu pages with 168 picture pages are now running on both sites:

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm

http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Portland2010/Portland10Menu1.htm

I'd appreciate some help with the items that have no ID on the pages,
please.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
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From christison at coastalnet.com  Wed Sep  8 18:02:38 2010
From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:02:38 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Ads and trade cards
Message-ID: <4C88322E.4040807@coastalnet.com>

  I have been researching a company located at Springfield, Ohio, and just ran
into a great page of ads and trade cards that might be of interest.  Only a
few engine related, but still a neat collection.

http://www.springfieldohiohistory.net/adstradecards.htm

Take care.

Ken




From rotigel at me.com  Wed Sep  8 18:04:37 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:04:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
	<F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>
Message-ID: <C0CC57BE-3F19-46F2-8151-7107AFC4F089@me.com>


On Sep 8, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Dave Otto wrote:

> Hi Peter
>
> Thanks for sharing the great pictures from the Portland show.
> By any chance do you have any more of the Falk on the 4th page #80?  
> I would
> like to see the other side of the engine.

Hi Dave, If you rotate the picture 180 degrees that should do it!
	Dave


From rotigel at me.com  Wed Sep  8 18:19:02 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:19:02 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Ads and trade cards
In-Reply-To: <4C88322E.4040807@coastalnet.com>
References: <4C88322E.4040807@coastalnet.com>
Message-ID: <81C6DA39-6B07-45F3-8481-FA960DDF3D69@me.com>

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! THANKS Ken!
	Dave

On Sep 8, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Ken Christison wrote:

>  I have been researching a company located at Springfield, Ohio, and  
> just ran
> into a great page of ads and trade cards that might be of interest.   
> Only a
> few engine related, but still a neat collection.
>
> http://www.springfieldohiohistory.net/adstradecards.htm
>
> Take care.
>
> Ken


From lcjudge at scrtc.com  Wed Sep  8 18:17:20 2010
From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 21:17:20 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Ads and trade cards
In-Reply-To: <4C88322E.4040807@coastalnet.com>
Message-ID: <E75A09A7A2414D83A502C54A6469D0BD@D2JYVHJ1>

Very neat Ken.

Tommy Turner



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Ken
Christison
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 9:03 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: [SEL] Ads and trade cards

  I have been researching a company located at Springfield, Ohio, and
just ran
into a great page of ads and trade cards that might be of interest.
Only a
few engine related, but still a neat collection.

http://www.springfieldohiohistory.net/adstradecards.htm

Take care.

Ken


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From ddotto at cableone.net  Wed Sep  8 18:35:11 2010
From: ddotto at cableone.net (Dave Otto)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:35:11 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <C0CC57BE-3F19-46F2-8151-7107AFC4F089@me.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com><AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com><F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>
	<C0CC57BE-3F19-46F2-8151-7107AFC4F089@me.com>
Message-ID: <5BDC36F979EF47629744090B3FFF1722@shop>

Dave

Thanks for the tip; I tried this and all the water ran out; I still could
not see the other side of the engine :-(


The other Dave


Dave Otto
Boise, Idaho
USA




-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 7:05 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures


On Sep 8, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Dave Otto wrote:

> Hi Peter
>
> Thanks for sharing the great pictures from the Portland show.
> By any chance do you have any more of the Falk on the 4th page #80?  
> I would
> like to see the other side of the engine.

Hi Dave, If you rotate the picture 180 degrees that should do it!
	Dave
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From rotigel at me.com  Wed Sep  8 18:41:31 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:41:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <5BDC36F979EF47629744090B3FFF1722@shop>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
	<F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>
	<C0CC57BE-3F19-46F2-8151-7107AFC4F089@me.com>
	<5BDC36F979EF47629744090B3FFF1722@shop>
Message-ID: <75D9B97D-056B-4BF6-A7BF-45F453200178@me.com>

DARN!!!!!
	Dave

On Sep 8, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Dave Otto wrote:

> Dave
>
> Thanks for the tip; I tried this and all the water ran out; I still  
> could
> not see the other side of the engine :-(
>
>
> The other Dave
>
>
> Dave Otto
> Boise, Idaho
> USA
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David  
> Rotigel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 7:05 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures
>
>
> On Sep 8, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Dave Otto wrote:
>
>> Hi Peter
>>
>> Thanks for sharing the great pictures from the Portland show.
>> By any chance do you have any more of the Falk on the 4th page #80?
>> I would
>> like to see the other side of the engine.
>
> Hi Dave, If you rotate the picture 180 degrees that should do it!
> 	Dave
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From frappi at wcoil.com  Wed Sep  8 19:07:09 2010
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:07:09 -0400
Subject: [SEL] M engine
In-Reply-To: <99e10.170e2186.39b953b5@aol.com>
References: <99e10.170e2186.39b953b5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20100909020709.8FFEC9388@smtp.wcoil.com>


Hi Tom,
I do not know for sure but I would not be afraid to bet yes. Try your 
local DuPont dealer first. If they say no don't stop, Call Speckman 
Auto Supply 419.394.2345   Ask for Bubba. I know they still mix 
Centari despite many dealers saying its no longer available. They 
just don't mix it themselves.  Speckman will UPS Paint anywhere in 
the US.  The other older systems are still available, DuPont still 
makes most of them, just gotta find a dealer who still mixes 
it.  Speckman would know who.    Mark



At 05:01 PM 9/8/2010, you wrote:
>1927 International M engine
>
>Anyone know if the DuPont #84155 or the DIT (PPG) # 40496 are still good
>numbers for the IH-M green engine paint?  Numbers from Wendel's  Notebook.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Tom  Schmutz
>Concord,  Va.
>germoamer at AOL.com
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Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com  



From dleis at centurytel.net  Wed Sep  8 19:49:24 2010
From: dleis at centurytel.net (Stacy Leis)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 21:49:24 -0500
Subject: [SEL] M engine
In-Reply-To: <20100909020709.8FFEC9388@smtp.wcoil.com>
References: <99e10.170e2186.39b953b5@aol.com>
	<20100909020709.8FFEC9388@smtp.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <1B9650D2C88D4D3892691C9D1CEE578A@OwnerPC>

Hi Tom
Adirondack green -DuPont# 84155  I had some mixed up in spray cans from 
http://www.towerpaint.com/I it seames to be good paint

stacy 




From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Thu Sep  9 00:24:07 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 08:24:07 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
	<F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinciG-wWVYMeh33D6Oo1dBs-RfLpw7qH83VorM7@mail.gmail.com>

On 9 September 2010 01:47, Dave Otto <ddotto at cableone.net> wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> Thanks for sharing the great pictures from the Portland show.
> By any chance do you have any more of the Falk on the 4th page #80? I would
> like to see the other side of the engine.
>
> It appears that the crank has been repaired or replaced; maybe this is the
> engine Tommy purchased a few years ago in Canada with a broken crank?
>
> Best regards,
> Dave

I'll check the other shots and see if there is anything else available, Dave.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From Germoamer at aol.com  Thu Sep  9 04:05:44 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:05:44 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Ads and trade cards
Message-ID: <4fad.4d10ecf2.39ba1988@aol.com>

In a message dated 9/8/2010 9:05:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
christison at coastalnet.com writes:

a great  page of ads and trade cards that might be of interest. 
 
Ken,
 

Really neat stuff.  Wonder if any "Thomas" engines still exist?
 
Thanks,  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Sep  9 06:49:25 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:49:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Ads and trade cards
In-Reply-To: <4fad.4d10ecf2.39ba1988@aol.com>
References: <4fad.4d10ecf2.39ba1988@aol.com>
Message-ID: <b42d26260789dfbb74045b4d2b3ab195.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Tom,

You must not have grandkids.  My grandson is "Thomas mad" and must have over 50
Thomas engines.  8-))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_the_Tank_Engine

See ya,  Arnie

On Thu, September 9, 2010 7:05 am, Germoamer at aol.com wrote:
>
> Really neat stuff.  Wonder if any "Thomas" engines still exist?





From Germoamer at aol.com  Thu Sep  9 06:55:12 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:55:12 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Ads and trade cards
Message-ID: <d1a3.34cf7ae.39ba4140@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 9/9/2010 9:46:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
fero_ah at city-net.com writes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_the_Tank_Engine


Its old age sinking in, I had forgotten about Thomas the train!
 
Thanks,  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From ddotto at cableone.net  Thu Sep  9 08:56:24 2010
From: ddotto at cableone.net (Dave Otto)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:56:24 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinciG-wWVYMeh33D6Oo1dBs-RfLpw7qH83VorM7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com><AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com><F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>
	<AANLkTinciG-wWVYMeh33D6Oo1dBs-RfLpw7qH83VorM7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FD0A8B9CC59A4A84B7792ADADA5D9414@shop>

Thanks Peter.

Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 1:24 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures

On 9 September 2010 01:47, Dave Otto <ddotto at cableone.net> wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> Thanks for sharing the great pictures from the Portland show.
> By any chance do you have any more of the Falk on the 4th page #80? I
would
> like to see the other side of the engine.
>
> It appears that the crank has been repaired or replaced; maybe this is the
> engine Tommy purchased a few years ago in Canada with a broken crank?
>
> Best regards,
> Dave

I'll check the other shots and see if there is anything else available,
Dave.

Peter
-- 
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Thu Sep  9 09:57:23 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:57:23 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1284048002.6431.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100909184954.01e27b68@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 09/09/2010, you wrote:
>Message: 10
>Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:35:11 -0600
>From: "Dave Otto" <ddotto at cableone.net>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures
>To: "'The SEL email discussion list'"
>         <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Dave
>
>Thanks for the tip; I tried this and all the water ran out; I still could
>not see the other side of the engine :-(
>The other Dave
>
>Dave Otto
>Boise, Idaho
>USA

Hi Dave(O),
         We all know Dave(R). It was late at night and his fingers did not 
actually type what his brain was saying !!

         I'm sure that he meant "mirror" - or "flip horizontal" and not 
"rotate". Try that and I'm sure the water will not run out !!! :-)

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>  

From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Thu Sep  9 14:19:55 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:19:55 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com>
	<AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com>
	<F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=h7EYt5EqD3xNNHOV9WoRe2b23D7uv6guoK_=h@mail.gmail.com>

On 9 September 2010 01:47, Dave Otto <ddotto at cableone.net> wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> Thanks for sharing the great pictures from the Portland show.
> By any chance do you have any more of the Falk on the 4th page #80? I would
> like to see the other side of the engine.
>
> It appears that the crank has been repaired or replaced; maybe this is the
> engine Tommy purchased a few years ago in Canada with a broken crank?
>
> Best regards,
> Dave

Dave:

We took three shots, and used the one on the website, but they were
all from the same side.

Two things:

One: I don't think Tommy has had his hands on this one, it is not good
enough to have been Tommys work if you know what I mean.

Two:  The label on the cylinder head bears the following writing:

"Falk 3hp Engine, sleeved cylinder, re-done valves + seat, re-built
ignitor,  new gas tank, comes w/mag and bracket, $9850.00 B.O. or
trades"

Hope that is of some use to you.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From ddotto at cableone.net  Fri Sep 10 07:05:34 2010
From: ddotto at cableone.net (Dave Otto)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:05:34 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Portland Pictures
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=h7EYt5EqD3xNNHOV9WoRe2b23D7uv6guoK_=h@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com><AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com><F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop>
	<AANLkTi=h7EYt5EqD3xNNHOV9WoRe2b23D7uv6guoK_=h@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <789AF57D66F44E669699FC1907D99B24@shop>

Hi Peter 

Thanks for checking; Tommy did have a barn fresh 3hp Falk with a broken
crank. I think he did sell that engine before any work was done on it. I
thought this may have been that same engine but I guess not.

It seems that the crank is the weak link on these engines; I best be careful
with mine when I go to start it.

I have seen pictures of two or three of these engines with broken
crankshafts.

Best regards,
Dave





-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Listerdiesel
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 3:20 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Pictures

On 9 September 2010 01:47, Dave Otto <ddotto at cableone.net> wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> Thanks for sharing the great pictures from the Portland show.
> By any chance do you have any more of the Falk on the 4th page #80? I
would
> like to see the other side of the engine.
>
> It appears that the crank has been repaired or replaced; maybe this is the
> engine Tommy purchased a few years ago in Canada with a broken crank?
>
> Best regards,
> Dave

Dave:

We took three shots, and used the one on the website, but they were
all from the same side.

Two things:

One: I don't think Tommy has had his hands on this one, it is not good
enough to have been Tommys work if you know what I mean.

Two:  The label on the cylinder head bears the following writing:

"Falk 3hp Engine, sleeved cylinder, re-done valves + seat, re-built
ignitor,  new gas tank, comes w/mag and bracket, $9850.00 B.O. or
trades"

Hope that is of some use to you.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk
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From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Fri Sep 10 10:49:42 2010
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:49:42 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland Engine Videos
Message-ID: <SNT118-W253AE6BD1972EFECE6F91AC8740@phx.gbl>


I have uploaded some of the engine videos I took while at Portland.   Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-r3JitF8d8
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsBCpzGWOZE
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5GrPP8voCo
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS__Gknl1A0
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q04DWoJnfo
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbCb0YVUlwE

Luke Tonneberger
Rockford, Michigan
USA 

 		 	   		  

From cgandree at mchsi.com  Sat Sep 11 05:31:01 2010
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 07:31:01 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
Message-ID: <473174890.1702481284208261457.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

Looking for some words of wisdom on my Delco Light Plant.  Trying to start the engine but seems like I am not getting gas to the carb.  On my model the gas tank is below the carb so after taking the fuel lines off to check for blockage of which there was none discovered that there was no check valve.  I cleaned out the old gas and thoughrly checked for some sort of check valve that might of fallen off into the tank but none to be found.  Last time I ran the plant was about a year ago and it started and ran soomthly. My question is were they supposed to have had a check valve or is gas sucked out of the tank by some sort of vacuum when the engine runs?  Any help would greatly be appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
Curt Andree


From edstoller at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 11 08:14:26 2010
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed Stoller)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:14:26 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Auction tuesday,Vestal NY
References: <ba783.4a4c5111.39b4ecaa@aol.com><AANLkTinZOb=-VgzaJ=aTSsqtzGHK=wWb_R=n+FVgd+ii@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTimnpUuCe2W-e3BybysiG=vQO8G3fVj8LXFFdS6x@mail.gmail.com><F2732262581C417CA6B224ECB7B44026@shop><AANLkTi=h7EYt5EqD3xNNHOV9WoRe2b23D7uv6guoK_=h@mail.gmail.com>
	<789AF57D66F44E669699FC1907D99B24@shop>
Message-ID: <00F9835F1A9C4FFBB356791A225CE2BE@edlaptop>


http://www.mapesauction.com/N9.14.10.htm




From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 11 10:21:33 2010
From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 12:21:33 -0500
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
References: <473174890.1702481284208261457.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
Message-ID: <204A09F336F74A55BC10985352094D70@PAUL>

Curt send it to me and I will get it running and send it back to you.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <cgandree at mchsi.com>
To: "SEL Lists" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:31 AM
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED


> Looking for some words of wisdom on my Delco Light Plant.  Trying to start 
> the engine but seems like I am not getting gas to the carb.  On my model 
> the gas tank is below the carb so after taking the fuel lines off to check 
> for blockage of which there was none discovered that there was no check 
> valve.  I cleaned out the old gas and thoughrly checked for some sort of 
> check valve that might of fallen off into the tank but none to be found. 
> Last time I ran the plant was about a year ago and it started and ran 
> soomthly. My question is were they supposed to have had a check valve or 
> is gas sucked out of the tank by some sort of vacuum when the engine runs? 
> Any help would greatly be appreciated.
> Thank you in advance.
> Curt Andree
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 11 10:46:12 2010
From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 10:46:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <204A09F336F74A55BC10985352094D70@PAUL>
Message-ID: <728726.90949.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I've got a Delco 32 volt also and have never ran it. Concerned about the voltage and if its necessary to have 32 volts to run it. Any help along these lines will be much appreciated.

?Ron Perma Frost  ??http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos  ?  ?

--- On Sat, 9/11/10, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 1:21 PM

Curt send it to me and I will get it running and send it back to you.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <cgandree at mchsi.com>
To: "SEL Lists" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:31 AM
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED


> Looking for some words of wisdom on my Delco Light Plant.? Trying to start 
> the engine but seems like I am not getting gas to the carb.? On my model 
> the gas tank is below the carb so after taking the fuel lines off to check 
> for blockage of which there was none discovered that there was no check 
> valve.? I cleaned out the old gas and thoughrly checked for some sort of 
> check valve that might of fallen off into the tank but none to be found. 
> Last time I ran the plant was about a year ago and it started and ran 
> soomthly. My question is were they supposed to have had a check valve or 
> is gas sucked out of the tank by some sort of vacuum when the engine runs? 
> Any help would greatly be appreciated.
> Thank you in advance.
> Curt Andree
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From no1djc at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 11 12:18:17 2010
From: no1djc at hotmail.com (David Carter)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:18:17 +0000
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <473174890.1702481284208261457.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
References: <473174890.1702481284208261457.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
Message-ID: <BAY156-w1D47000CF60F5D00B4F0492750@phx.gbl>


Hello Curt,
       Sign up and ask here:-
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=dbeba0c893d08a88a3117357301a93e3&f=6
 Look for "Delco Don" Wiley, has all the records to date Delcos and has service and parts manuals.
When I had a 32v Delco, he was very helpful.
Regards, DJC.

 		 	   		  

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Sep 11 13:01:34 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:01:34 -0400
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <728726.90949.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <728726.90949.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f19dbfb6606dea08d08712b5f702d8f2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Ron,

My Delco light plant runs with three 12v automotive cooling fans in series as a 36v
load.  It works great.  The fans have really large fan blades and are mounted in
wooden box frames with hardware cloth over the openings.  With longish electrical
cords, the three fans can be spread out and provide a really nice breeze on hot show
days.  I don't know if it's necessary to have a load on a light plant or not.

See ya,  Arnie

On Sat, September 11, 2010 1:46 pm, Ron Frost wrote:
> I've got a Delco 32 volt also and have never ran it. Concerned about the voltage and
> if its necessary to have 32 volts to run it. Any help along these lines will be much
> appreciated.





From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 11 13:14:59 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:14:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <f19dbfb6606dea08d08712b5f702d8f2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <238925.7586.qm@web111714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

The one I have is an auto start Delco light plant.
You turn on the motor and the engine starts.
The friend that I bought it from says it must have a load to run it.
Back?in it's working days the load was a bank of batteries.
I got it with some 32 Volt light bulbs, a power hack saw with a 32 Volt motor plus another 32 Volt motor on an old pump and a small sink for the water.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sat, 9/11/10, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:


From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 4:01 PM


Hi Ron,

My Delco light plant runs with three 12v automotive cooling fans in series as a 36v
load.? It works great.? The fans have really large fan blades and are mounted in
wooden box frames with hardware cloth over the openings.? With longish electrical
cords, the three fans can be spread out and provide a really nice breeze on hot show
days.? I don't know if it's necessary to have a load on a light plant or not.

See ya,? Arnie

On Sat, September 11, 2010 1:46 pm, Ron Frost wrote:
> I've got a Delco 32 volt also and have never ran it. Concerned about the voltage and
> if its necessary to have 32 volts to run it. Any help along these lines will be much
> appreciated.



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From rotigel at me.com  Sat Sep 11 15:24:41 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:24:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <728726.90949.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <728726.90949.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D7C16EFC-9AE2-4E51-AAF8-1B4743C8FF55@me.com>

The light plant PRODUCES 32 volts Ron.
	Dave

On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Ron Frost wrote:

> I've got a Delco 32 volt also and have never ran it. Concerned about  
> the voltage and if its necessary to have 32 volts to run it. Any  
> help along these lines will be much appreciated.
>
>  Ron Perma Frost    http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos
>
> --- On Sat, 9/11/10, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net 
> > wrote:
>
> From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 1:21 PM
>
> Curt send it to me and I will get it running and send it back to you.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <cgandree at mchsi.com>
> To: "SEL Lists" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:31 AM
> Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
>
>
>> Looking for some words of wisdom on my Delco Light Plant.  Trying  
>> to start
>> the engine but seems like I am not getting gas to the carb.  On my  
>> model
>> the gas tank is below the carb so after taking the fuel lines off  
>> to check
>> for blockage of which there was none discovered that there was no  
>> check
>> valve.  I cleaned out the old gas and thoughrly checked for some  
>> sort of
>> check valve that might of fallen off into the tank but none to be  
>> found.
>> Last time I ran the plant was about a year ago and it started and ran
>> soomthly. My question is were they supposed to have had a check  
>> valve or
>> is gas sucked out of the tank by some sort of vacuum when the  
>> engine runs?
>> Any help would greatly be appreciated.
>> Thank you in advance.
>> Curt Andree
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From cgandree at mchsi.com  Sat Sep 11 16:04:21 2010
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:04:21 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <BAY156-w1D47000CF60F5D00B4F0492750@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <172756138.1759521284246260973.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

Yes Dave C, I have tried to contact Delco Don but his phone number doesn't seem to work any more. Concerned that his bad health may of gotten worse.  He had orginally come out to my farm and helped me 5 yrs ago then we lost contact.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Carter" <no1djc at hotmail.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 2:18:17 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED


Hello Curt,
       Sign up and ask here:-
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=dbeba0c893d08a88a3117357301a93e3&f=6
 Look for "Delco Don" Wiley, has all the records to date Delcos and has service and parts manuals.
When I had a 32v Delco, he was very helpful.
Regards, DJC.

 		 	   		  
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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 11 17:09:52 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 17:09:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <D7C16EFC-9AE2-4E51-AAF8-1B4743C8FF55@me.com>
Message-ID: <926731.86310.qm@web111722.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Yes Dave, Mine uses a six Volt battery to start it.
I should have mentioned that.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sat, 9/11/10, David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:


From: David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 6:24 PM


The light plant PRODUCES 32 volts Ron.
??? Dave

On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Ron Frost wrote:

> I've got a Delco 32 volt also and have never ran it. Concerned about? 
> the voltage and if its necessary to have 32 volts to run it. Any? 
> help along these lines will be much appreciated.
>
>? Ron Perma Frost? ? http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos
>
> --- On Sat, 9/11/10, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net 
> > wrote:
>
> From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 1:21 PM
>
> Curt send it to me and I will get it running and send it back to you.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <cgandree at mchsi.com>
> To: "SEL Lists" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:31 AM
> Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
>
>
>> Looking for some words of wisdom on my Delco Light Plant.? Trying? 
>> to start
>> the engine but seems like I am not getting gas to the carb.? On my? 
>> model
>> the gas tank is below the carb so after taking the fuel lines off? 
>> to check
>> for blockage of which there was none discovered that there was no? 
>> check
>> valve.? I cleaned out the old gas and thoughrly checked for some? 
>> sort of
>> check valve that might of fallen off into the tank but none to be? 
>> found.
>> Last time I ran the plant was about a year ago and it started and ran
>> soomthly. My question is were they supposed to have had a check? 
>> valve or
>> is gas sucked out of the tank by some sort of vacuum when the? 
>> engine runs?
>> Any help would greatly be appreciated.
>> Thank you in advance.
>> Curt Andree
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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From jbcast at charter.net  Sat Sep 11 19:18:44 2010
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:18:44 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Portland Engine Videos
In-Reply-To: <SNT118-W253AE6BD1972EFECE6F91AC8740@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20100911221844.F84CS.1262140.root@mp16>


---- Luke Tonneberger <flywheelin at hotmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> I have uploaded some of the engine videos I took while at Portland.   Enjoy!
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-r3JitF8d8
>  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsBCpzGWOZE
>  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5GrPP8voCo
>  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS__Gknl1A0
>  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q04DWoJnfo
>  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbCb0YVUlwE
> 
> Luke Tonneberger

Thanks for the videos Luke. It takes me a while to get co-ordination to reverse my Fisherman marine engine on the spark if I haven't run it recently, but it did OK in the video. This engine was manufactured by Domestic, the side shaft and face cam are similar, has two lobes on the cam for reversing.
J.B. Castagnos
Belle Rose, LA.


From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 12 04:11:03 2010
From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 04:11:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <926731.86310.qm@web111722.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <913786.83433.qm@web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Thanks folks. Now I'm going to have to dig it out and see about seeing if it will run.?? I've had it for quite a while and can't remember that much about it. 

?Ron Perma Frost  ??http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos  ?  ?

--- On Sat, 9/11/10, Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 8:09 PM

Yes Dave, Mine uses a six Volt battery to start it.
I should have mentioned that.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sat, 9/11/10, David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:


From: David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 6:24 PM


The light plant PRODUCES 32 volts Ron.
??? Dave

On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Ron Frost wrote:

> I've got a Delco 32 volt also and have never ran it. Concerned about? 
> the voltage and if its necessary to have 32 volts to run it. Any? 
> help along these lines will be much appreciated.
>
>? Ron Perma Frost? ? http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos
>
> --- On Sat, 9/11/10, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net 
> > wrote:
>
> From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 1:21 PM
>
> Curt send it to me and I will get it running and send it back to you.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <cgandree at mchsi.com>
> To: "SEL Lists" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:31 AM
> Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
>
>
>> Looking for some words of wisdom on my Delco Light Plant.? Trying? 
>> to start
>> the engine but seems like I am not getting gas to the carb.? On my? 
>> model
>> the gas tank is below the carb so after taking the fuel lines off? 
>> to check
>> for blockage of which there was none discovered that there was no? 
>> check
>> valve.? I cleaned out the old gas and thoughrly checked for some? 
>> sort of
>> check valve that might of fallen off into the tank but none to be? 
>> found.
>> Last time I ran the plant was about a year ago and it started and ran
>> soomthly. My question is were they supposed to have had a check? 
>> valve or
>> is gas sucked out of the tank by some sort of vacuum when the? 
>> engine runs?
>> Any help would greatly be appreciated.
>> Thank you in advance.
>> Curt Andree
>> _______________________________________________
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>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 12 05:16:47 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 05:16:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <913786.83433.qm@web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <755895.56942.qm@web111723.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I really hated to buy mine but my friend wanted to sell it.
It is just like the one he grew up with.
He had such a wonderful group of stories to tell folks.
If I hadn't bought it someone else surely would have.
?
Alan

--- On Sun, 9/12/10, Ron Frost <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Ron Frost <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 7:11 AM


Thanks folks. Now I'm going to have to dig it out and see about seeing if it will run.?? I've had it for quite a while and can't remember that much about it. 

?Ron Perma Frost? ??http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos? ?? ?

--- On Sat, 9/11/10, Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 8:09 PM

Yes Dave, Mine uses a six Volt battery to start it.
I should have mentioned that.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sat, 9/11/10, David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:


From: David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 6:24 PM


The light plant PRODUCES 32 volts Ron.
??? Dave

On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Ron Frost wrote:

> I've got a Delco 32 volt also and have never ran it. Concerned about? 
> the voltage and if its necessary to have 32 volts to run it. Any? 
> help along these lines will be much appreciated.
>
>? Ron Perma Frost? ? http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos
>
> --- On Sat, 9/11/10, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net 
> > wrote:
>
> From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 1:21 PM
>
> Curt send it to me and I will get it running and send it back to you.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <cgandree at mchsi.com>
> To: "SEL Lists" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:31 AM
> Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
>
>
>> Looking for some words of wisdom on my Delco Light Plant.? Trying? 
>> to start
>> the engine but seems like I am not getting gas to the carb.? On my? 
>> model
>> the gas tank is below the carb so after taking the fuel lines off? 
>> to check
>> for blockage of which there was none discovered that there was no? 
>> check
>> valve.? I cleaned out the old gas and thoughrly checked for some? 
>> sort of
>> check valve that might of fallen off into the tank but none to be? 
>> found.
>> Last time I ran the plant was about a year ago and it started and ran
>> soomthly. My question is were they supposed to have had a check? 
>> valve or
>> is gas sucked out of the tank by some sort of vacuum when the? 
>> engine runs?
>> Any help would greatly be appreciated.
>> Thank you in advance.
>> Curt Andree
>> _______________________________________________
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From cgandree at mchsi.com  Sun Sep 12 05:49:46 2010
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 07:49:46 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <755895.56942.qm@web111723.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1833517545.1793031284295785892.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

Alan,
If yours is a Model 850 could you please take a look at the fuel line going into the tank and see if there is supposed to be some sort of check valve.  Or any one else that has that model.
thanks,
Curt Andree
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan" <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:16:47 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED

I really hated to buy mine but my friend wanted to sell it.
It is just like the one he grew up with.
He had such a wonderful group of stories to tell folks.
If I hadn't bought it someone else surely would have.
?
Alan

--- On Sun, 9/12/10, Ron Frost <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Ron Frost <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 7:11 AM


Thanks folks. Now I'm going to have to dig it out and see about seeing if it will run.?? I've had it for quite a while and can't remember that much about it. 

?Ron Perma Frost? ??http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos? ?? ?

--- On Sat, 9/11/10, Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 8:09 PM

Yes Dave, Mine uses a six Volt battery to start it.
I should have mentioned that.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sat, 9/11/10, David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:


From: David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 6:24 PM


The light plant PRODUCES 32 volts Ron.
??? Dave

On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Ron Frost wrote:

> I've got a Delco 32 volt also and have never ran it. Concerned about? 
> the voltage and if its necessary to have 32 volts to run it. Any? 
> help along these lines will be much appreciated.
>
>? Ron Perma Frost? ? http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos
>
> --- On Sat, 9/11/10, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net 
> > wrote:
>
> From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net <paulmaples at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 1:21 PM
>
> Curt send it to me and I will get it running and send it back to you.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <cgandree at mchsi.com>
> To: "SEL Lists" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:31 AM
> Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
>
>
>> Looking for some words of wisdom on my Delco Light Plant.? Trying? 
>> to start
>> the engine but seems like I am not getting gas to the carb.? On my? 
>> model
>> the gas tank is below the carb so after taking the fuel lines off? 
>> to check
>> for blockage of which there was none discovered that there was no? 
>> check
>> valve.? I cleaned out the old gas and thoughrly checked for some? 
>> sort of
>> check valve that might of fallen off into the tank but none to be? 
>> found.
>> Last time I ran the plant was about a year ago and it started and ran
>> soomthly. My question is were they supposed to have had a check? 
>> valve or
>> is gas sucked out of the tank by some sort of vacuum when the? 
>> engine runs?
>> Any help would greatly be appreciated.
>> Thank you in advance.
>> Curt Andree
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 12 11:16:29 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:16:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <1833517545.1793031284295785892.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
Message-ID: <461115.86969.qm@web111701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Wow, I have hardly looked at it after I found room for it in my engine trailer.
Will you please give me a hint where to look for a model number?
That would be great to know for future communication.
Alan

--- On Sun, 9/12/10, cgandree at mchsi.com <cgandree at mchsi.com> wrote:


From: cgandree at mchsi.com <cgandree at mchsi.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 8:49 AM


Alan,
If yours is a Model 850 could you please take a look at the fuel line going into the tank and see if there is supposed to be some sort of check valve.? Or any one else that has that model.
thanks,
Curt Andree

?
?

?

From no1djc at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 12 13:35:35 2010
From: no1djc at hotmail.com (David Carter)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 20:35:35 +0000
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <1833517545.1793031284295785892.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
References: <755895.56942.qm@web111723.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,
	<1833517545.1793031284295785892.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
Message-ID: <BAY156-w60DE862F035B21CF304BDD92760@phx.gbl>


Curt,
   No check valve is needed.  Vacuum, engine side of the rotating mixer slide, draws fuel up through the pipe and through a pre-drilled jet in the mixer casting. Check the slide is the correct way round. Closed at 10 o'clock, fully open at 2 o'clock, rotationally speaking.
Engine side of the slide, the mixer casting has a jet drilled in the bottom of the circular "reservoir". 
 
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2494317430054098493CNqulm

 This should have a felt pad in it. To start the engine, flood the felt pad with petrol, move the slide to start, and crank the engine.
The pad supplies fuel to the engine until fuel is drawn up the pipe from the tank. With petrol in the fuel tank the engine should run set at "1", and as it warms up move the slide clockwise to increase the intake of air increased revs. You may have to keep squirting petrol on to the pad several times until the engine warms up if you are using paraffin (Kerosine?) in the fuel tank.
To stop the engine, fully open the slide clockwise. When the engine stops, the fuel drains back to the tank. 

 

Fuel won't be drawn up if the slide is too far open. 

After a few starts you will get the hang of it.

 

Enjoy!

 

 

Regards, DJC 
 
 
 
 
 
> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 07:49:46 -0500
> From: cgandree at mchsi.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
> 
> Alan,
> If yours is a Model 850 could you please take a look at the fuel line going into the tank and see if there is supposed to be some sort of check valve. Or any one else that has that model.
> thanks,
> Curt Andree

 		 	   		  

From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Mon Sep 13 01:32:13 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:32:13 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Ruston & Hornsby 1ZHR at Barleylands
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=tS78raUqkhz6qG4CsKvgekMYFJoq3tGP0AF7r@mail.gmail.com>

We took the Ruston the the Essex Country Show at Barleylands, near
Billericay, Essex at the weekend.

Had a fault in the alternator which stopped up from loading it for
much of the time, but it ran 8 hours non-stop on the Sunday, just
oiling and water topping up required, it was off load so didn't use as
much fuel as usual.

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Barleylands1.jpg

http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Barleylands2.jpg

Got to pull the armature out today and see what has caused the Magic
Smoke to escape, it looks like a major connection as we lost the AC
output and the DC starting.

The control box was a little 'drunk' and leaning a bit!

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From cgandree at mchsi.com  Mon Sep 13 03:41:17 2010
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 05:41:17 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <BAY156-w60DE862F035B21CF304BDD92760@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <441750703.1897231284374477035.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

Dave,
I am not sure where that felt pad is supposed to go.  When I take out that plug it has a screen fastened to the bottom with no evidence of a pad. Can you send me a detailed pic of the felt pad and where it goes please.
thanks,
Curt



----- Original Message -----
From: "David Carter" <no1djc at hotmail.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:35:35 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED


Curt,
   No check valve is needed.  Vacuum, engine side of the rotating mixer slide, draws fuel up through the pipe and through a pre-drilled jet in the mixer casting. Check the slide is the correct way round. Closed at 10 o'clock, fully open at 2 o'clock, rotationally speaking.
Engine side of the slide, the mixer casting has a jet drilled in the bottom of the circular "reservoir". 
 
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2494317430054098493CNqulm

 This should have a felt pad in it. To start the engine, flood the felt pad with petrol, move the slide to start, and crank the engine.
The pad supplies fuel to the engine until fuel is drawn up the pipe from the tank. With petrol in the fuel tank the engine should run set at "1", and as it warms up move the slide clockwise to increase the intake of air increased revs. You may have to keep squirting petrol on to the pad several times until the engine warms up if you are using paraffin (Kerosine?) in the fuel tank.
To stop the engine, fully open the slide clockwise. When the engine stops, the fuel drains back to the tank. 

 

Fuel won't be drawn up if the slide is too far open. 

After a few starts you will get the hang of it.

 

Enjoy!

 

 

Regards, DJC 
 
 
 
 
 
> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 07:49:46 -0500
> From: cgandree at mchsi.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
> 
> Alan,
> If yours is a Model 850 could you please take a look at the fuel line going into the tank and see if there is supposed to be some sort of check valve. Or any one else that has that model.
> thanks,
> Curt Andree

 		 	   		  
_______________________________________________
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SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Mon Sep 13 10:44:38 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:44:38 +0200
Subject: [SEL] New manual added
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100913193351.00e0abc0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys 'n Gals,
         We picked up a 16 H.P. Campbell Horizontal this weekend (not mine, 
I'm not Rockafella I'm the "other Fella"). It came with its original 
Instruction booklet which I have scanned and added to my manuals page here:

<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/manuals/index.htm>

         This is for the Campbell OIL Engine made in Cardiff, Wales - not 
the one from Halifax, England (I think they were known as the Campbell GAS 
Engine).

         Pics and webpage of the engine will follow soon.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>  

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Sep 13 11:19:36 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:19:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Ruston & Hornsby 1ZHR at Barleylands
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=tS78raUqkhz6qG4CsKvgekMYFJoq3tGP0AF7r@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=tS78raUqkhz6qG4CsKvgekMYFJoq3tGP0AF7r@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <209aa83eed03c147e3b18627fc883e0a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

She's lookin' GOOD Peter!!

On Mon, September 13, 2010 4:32 am, Listerdiesel wrote:
> We took the Ruston the the Essex Country Show at Barleylands, near
> Billericay, Essex at the weekend.
>
> http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Barleylands1.jpg
> http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Barleylands2.jpg





From no1djc at hotmail.com  Mon Sep 13 13:05:23 2010
From: no1djc at hotmail.com (David Carter)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:05:23 +0000
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <441750703.1897231284374477035.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
References: <BAY156-w60DE862F035B21CF304BDD92760@phx.gbl>,
	<441750703.1897231284374477035.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
Message-ID: <BAY156-w63F697FC5C8A4C5497574B92770@phx.gbl>


  Curt,

     The felt pad fits in the circular recess positioned between the plugged filter/jet chamber and the rotating slide. I held mine in with a "C" clip.   ........ http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2327259350104310933efkZAb

 

Regards, Dave.

 

 
> Dave,
> I am not sure where that felt pad is supposed to go. When I take out that plug it has a screen fastened to the bottom with no evidence of a pad. Can you send me a detailed pic of the felt pad and where it goes please.
> thanks,
> Curt
 		 	   		  

From jerrye at databak.co.za  Mon Sep 13 13:40:14 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 22:40:14 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates
In-Reply-To: <69AA4DF9229E4343BAE9063292824311@HOUSE>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100913222326.00e1e918@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>

At 10:04 PM 13/09/2010, you wrote:
>Hi Jerry
>Are you the bloke (fella) (man) that does brass engine plates?
>I have a mate that needs one for a Pelapone PA.
>What is the process to get one made please? He doesn't have the original.
>And sorry, I apologise if I have got the wrong person.
>Best wishes
>Ted Domeney
>Tasmania, Australia.


Hi Ted,
         Yes, I assume that I'm that bloke/fella/guy/man !!!!!

         (We have corresponded previously). :-)

         I do need a pic to copy from (and do not have one!) but that's 
where these lists are so great. Someone (a member) is bound to be able to 
provide something that I can copy.

         (I've copied this to the 2 greatest engine lists on the .net so 
lets see what we get !!

         Please remember that I ONLY make "etched" plates - no chance of 
"Cast Plates" here.


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>  

From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Tue Sep 14 00:37:15 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:37:15 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
Message-ID: <C8B5634B.5AFD%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

I hope to catch up with a few list members at our rally this weekend. I
still have the big R&V loaded from Macksville but I am working on a couple
of little engines to accompany it this weekend.
See you all there,
Patrick

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From camaned at iinet.net.au  Tue Sep 14 00:50:28 2010
From: camaned at iinet.net.au (Cam Grundy)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:50:28 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
In-Reply-To: <C8B5634B.5AFD%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <C8B5634B.5AFD%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44B56A1200D24F388A227939EA426AB8@CamPC>

See you there Patrick. Cam


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:37 PM
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally


>I hope to catch up with a few list members at our rally this weekend. I
> still have the big R&V loaded from Macksville but I am working on a couple
> of little engines to accompany it this weekend.
> See you all there,
> Patrick
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From mickc782 at hotmail.com  Tue Sep 14 01:54:53 2010
From: mickc782 at hotmail.com (michael christie)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:24:53 +1030
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
In-Reply-To: <C8B5634B.5AFD%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <C8B5634B.5AFD%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU129-W12250A80A6F6652760F0099D780@phx.gbl>


g'day patrick

my family will see you there too, first big road trip for the little one as well, should be exciting! should i bring an R&V?? or are you gunna flood the grounds with your family of R&V's!!

   cheers

         mick
 
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:37:15 +1000
> From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
> Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
> 
> I hope to catch up with a few list members at our rally this weekend. I
> still have the big R&V loaded from Macksville but I am working on a couple
> of little engines to accompany it this weekend.
> See you all there,
> Patrick
> 
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From brock at netspeed.com.au  Tue Sep 14 02:18:16 2010
From: brock at netspeed.com.au (Brock summerfield)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:18:16 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
In-Reply-To: <C8B5634B.5AFD%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <C8B5634B.5AFD%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A62406C4CA74402D985834DBF7C6A2B4@brockPC>

i ,ll be there going up friday cya,s there
Brock
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:37 PM
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally


>I hope to catch up with a few list members at our rally this weekend. I
> still have the big R&V loaded from Macksville but I am working on a couple
> of little engines to accompany it this weekend.
> See you all there,
> Patrick
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From plowe at exemail.com.au  Tue Sep 14 04:10:21 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:10:21 +1000
Subject: [SEL] US Library contact wanted please
Message-ID: <2AF49D8D3E294A00B7E5A352F18A5F20@peterlowe>

Hi all
 I am after someone who is an avid library goer, studing at University in Illinois or working at Illinois university,  to help me.
I am trying to get some rare archived information from the rare books and manuscripts dept from the University of Illinois at Urbana - Champaign and on their web site I need to do the following:

To request an archived item through I-Share I need to profile a VuFind account.
1. It is asking for Borrower ID (Barcode Number)
2. The I-Share library with which you are affiliated, this can be any college or university in Illinois, see link below and look at th elist in the drop down menu.

https://vufind.carli.illinois.edu/vf-uiu/MyResearch/Account?followup=%2Fvf-uiu%2FRecord%2Fuiu_5960065%2FRequest%3FfollowupJS%3DshowTagForm%28%29

I only want those who can genuinely help to reply please at plowe at exemail.com.au OFF LIST. You have to know the Library system or be a member.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Skype name: ozengines

From cgandree at mchsi.com  Tue Sep 14 04:27:46 2010
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 06:27:46 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <BAY156-w63F697FC5C8A4C5497574B92770@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1900497948.2113691284463666624.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

Ok Dave, the felt did the trick. Will now put a c-clip in to retain it better. Engine getting fuel now.  Also having a problem with the starter switch not holding.  I have to hold on to the switch to keep it running.  Not sure if one of those contact levers are bent.  If you could take some detailed pics of your starter (with cover off) so I can better see if there is some sort of wear I sure would appreciate it or if you have some other suggestion.  Also what is your phone number so I can chat with you a bit.
Thanks again,
Curt





                                                                                                                                                       ----- Original Message -----
From: "David Carter" <no1djc at hotmail.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 3:05:23 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED


  Curt,

     The felt pad fits in the circular recess positioned between the plugged filter/jet chamber and the rotating slide. I held mine in with a "C" clip.   ........ http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2327259350104310933efkZAb

 

Regards, Dave.

 

 
> Dave,
> I am not sure where that felt pad is supposed to go. When I take out that plug it has a screen fastened to the bottom with no evidence of a pad. Can you send me a detailed pic of the felt pad and where it goes please.
> thanks,
> Curt
 		 	   		  
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SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Tue Sep 14 14:31:54 2010
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:31:54 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
Message-ID: <DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>

OK, we've done it before let's do it again.   A co-worker of mine has a nephew who is up for football player of the week from a local TV station.  Viewers are asked to log onto their web site and vote for their favorite player.  Here's the web site:
http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called "Player of the Week"  
The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds. Rushing, 3 TDs
Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".
It will allow one vote per computer.  I just voted and he has 38.5% of the vote.  Let's see if we can raise that number to over 50%.
Thanks.
Keith


Keith Kinney
kkinney at herculesengines.com
WWW.HerculesEngines.com





From mr at carolina.rr.com  Tue Sep 14 15:53:31 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:53:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <001c01cb545f$a79aafb0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

39.3
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Keith Kinney 
  To: The SEL email discussion list ; stationary-engine at oldengine.org ; t at mail45.atl.registeredsite.com 
  Cc: Antique tractor email discussion group 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:31 PM
  Subject: Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.


  OK, we've done it before let's do it again.   A co-worker of mine has a nephew who is up for football player of the week from a local TV station.  Viewers are asked to log onto their web site and vote for their favorite player.  Here's the web site:
  http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
  Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called "Player of the Week"  
  The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds. Rushing, 3 TDs
  Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".
  It will allow one vote per computer.  I just voted and he has 38.5% of the vote.  Let's see if we can raise that number to over 50%.
  Thanks.
  Keith




  Keith Kinney
  kkinney at herculesengines.com
  WWW.HerculesEngines.com







From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Tue Sep 14 16:06:45 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:06:45 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
In-Reply-To: <BLU129-W12250A80A6F6652760F0099D780@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C8B63D25.5B10%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

I am not sure what will be coming out with the big R&V yet. I will probably
load up the silver AL as it is always reliable. My other AL has a fuel
pickup issue that I may have time to fix this week and the BL keeps blowing
head gaskets. I may have fixed this and if I have it will go in the trailer.
If I give up on the little R&Vs I may put the old No.1 Eclipse on board as I
seem to have fixed its govenor problems (for now).
Looking forward to seeing everyone there. I will probably be out there
around lunchtime on Friday but will have to run away again as I am working
on Friday night :(
Patrick


On 14/9/10 6:54 PM, "michael christie" <mickc782 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> g'day patrick
> 
> my family will see you there too, first big road trip for the little one as
> well, should be exciting! should i bring an R&V?? or are you gunna flood the
> grounds with your family of R&V's!!
> 
>    cheers
> 
>          mick
>  
>> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:37:15 +1000
>> From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com
>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
>> Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally
>> 
>> I hope to catch up with a few list members at our rally this weekend. I
>> still have the big R&V loaded from Macksville but I am working on a couple
>> of little engines to accompany it this weekend.
>> See you all there,
>> Patrick
>> 
>> Patrick M Livingstone
>> Leichhardt NSW
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>  
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 14 17:07:54 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:07:54 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
Message-ID: <ab03115e3f39776deba8ab2c677a070e.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

I just made an interesting observation.

If you click on the website link as it appears in most of these reply emails, you
get to vote again.  From each of your computers.  So, go back into your trash folder
and vote each of these additional emails.

Gee, I feel just a Chicago Democrat ward heeler going out into the cemetery voting
the dead over and over.  As one infamous ward heeler once said:  "Bob was a faithful
party member; voted straight Democrat all his life.  Why should he stop now just
because he's dead?"  8-))

On Tue, September 14, 2010 6:53 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> 39.3
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Keith Kinney
>   To: The SEL email discussion list ; stationary-engine at oldengine.org ;
> t at mail45.atl.registeredsite.com
>   Cc: Antique tractor email discussion group
>   Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:31 PM
>   Subject: Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
>
>
>   OK, we've done it before let's do it again.   A co-worker of mine has a nephew who
> is up for football player of the week from a local TV station.  Viewers are asked
> to log onto their web site and vote for their favorite player.  Here's the web
> site:
>   http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
>   Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called "Player of the
> Week"
>   The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds. Rushing, 3 TDs
>   Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".
>   It will allow one vote per computer.  I just voted and he has 38.5% of the vote.
> Let's see if we can raise that number to over 50%.
>   Thanks.
>   Keith





From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Tue Sep 14 17:22:26 2010
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:22:26 -0500
Subject: [SEL] [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>
	<000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>
Message-ID: <720BAFF4-00E5-47C1-B229-1D7542ED90B5@herculesengines.com>

Dean
I respect your point of view. But, I think that the way these contests work is that people in them ask everyone they know to contact everyone they know to ask them to vote.  That's what happened here.  Logan's uncle ask everyone in our office to vote and tell their friends to vote too.  Just so happens that I know a lot of people all over the world. :-).
Keith
On Sep 14, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Dean VP wrote:

> Keith,
> 
> I'm not comfortable with this so I won't participate. Doesn't seem ethical to me. Aren't we supposed
> to be setting an example for the  next generations?
> 
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA
> "Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already
> have it." - Ronald Reagan
> "The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - Margaret
> Thatcher
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf
> Of Keith Kinney
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 2:32 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list; stationary-engine at oldengine.org; t at mail45.atl.registeredsite.com
> Cc: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
> 
> OK, we've done it before let's do it again.   A co-worker of mine has a nephew who is up for
> football player of the week from a local TV station.  Viewers are asked to log onto their web site
> and vote for their favorite player.  Here's the web site:
> http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
> Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called "Player of the Week"  
> The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds. Rushing, 3 TDs
> Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".
> It will allow one vote per computer.  I just voted and he has 38.5% of the vote.  Let's see if we
> can raise that number to over 50%.
> Thanks.
> Keith
> 
> 
> Keith Kinney
> kkinney at herculesengines.com
> WWW.HerculesEngines.com
> 
> 
> 
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From rotigel at me.com  Tue Sep 14 20:29:00 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:29:00 -0700
Subject: [SEL] [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>
	<000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>
Message-ID: <006BE621-AD32-44FB-895B-DE24AF395053@me.com>

By Golly Darn DeanVP, This is the way that OBAMA was elected. What do  
you have against the kind of democracy that OBAMA stands for? Don't  
you like black people, or what?
	Dave

On Sep 14, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Dean VP wrote:

> Keith,
>
> I'm not comfortable with this so I won't participate. Doesn't seem  
> ethical to me. Aren't we supposed
> to be setting an example for the  next generations?
>
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA
> "Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it  
> and hell where they already
> have it." - Ronald Reagan
> "The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other  
> people's money." - Margaret
> Thatcher
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com 
> ] On Behalf
> Of Keith Kinney
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 2:32 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list; stationary-engine at oldengine.org; t at mail45.atl.registeredsite.com
> Cc: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
>
> OK, we've done it before let's do it again.   A co-worker of mine  
> has a nephew who is up for
> football player of the week from a local TV station.  Viewers are  
> asked to log onto their web site
> and vote for their favorite player.  Here's the web site:
> http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
> Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called  
> "Player of the Week"
> The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds.  
> Rushing, 3 TDs
> Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".
> It will allow one vote per computer.  I just voted and he has 38.5%  
> of the vote.  Let's see if we
> can raise that number to over 50%.
> Thanks.
> Keith
>
>
> Keith Kinney
> kkinney at herculesengines.com
> WWW.HerculesEngines.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> AT mailing list
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>
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From rotigel at me.com  Tue Sep 14 20:34:58 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:34:58 -0700
Subject: [SEL] [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <720BAFF4-00E5-47C1-B229-1D7542ED90B5@herculesengines.com>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>
	<000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>
	<720BAFF4-00E5-47C1-B229-1D7542ED90B5@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <9423FBC7-0C03-434F-A313-C0A7D192FFE9@me.com>

Hell, So far Logan only has three votes from SA and six from the UK.  
Hell, PORUS had more than that from Kenya alone!
	Dave
PS, The 18 votes from OZ should not count--everyone knows that those  
people CHEET!

On Sep 14, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Keith Kinney wrote:

> Dean
> I respect your point of view. But, I think that the way these  
> contests work is that people in them ask everyone they know to  
> contact everyone they know to ask them to vote.  That's what  
> happened here.  Logan's uncle ask everyone in our office to vote and  
> tell their friends to vote too.  Just so happens that I know a lot  
> of people all over the world. :-).
> Keith
> On Sep 14, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Dean VP wrote:
>
>> Keith,
>>
>> I'm not comfortable with this so I won't participate. Doesn't seem  
>> ethical to me. Aren't we supposed
>> to be setting an example for the  next generations?
>>
>> Dean VP
>> Snohomish, WA
>> "Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need  
>> it and hell where they already
>> have it." - Ronald Reagan
>> "The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other  
>> people's money." - Margaret
>> Thatcher
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com 
>> ] On Behalf
>> Of Keith Kinney
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 2:32 PM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list; stationary-engine at oldengine.org; t at mail45.atl.registeredsite.com
>> Cc: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
>>
>> OK, we've done it before let's do it again.   A co-worker of mine  
>> has a nephew who is up for
>> football player of the week from a local TV station.  Viewers are  
>> asked to log onto their web site
>> and vote for their favorite player.  Here's the web site:
>> http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
>> Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called  
>> "Player of the Week"
>> The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds.  
>> Rushing, 3 TDs
>> Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".
>> It will allow one vote per computer.  I just voted and he has 38.5%  
>> of the vote.  Let's see if we
>> can raise that number to over 50%.
>> Thanks.
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> Keith Kinney
>> kkinney at herculesengines.com
>> WWW.HerculesEngines.com
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>
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>
>
>
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From enginepaul at gmail.com  Tue Sep 14 18:52:00 2010
From: enginepaul at gmail.com (P. Johns)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:52:00 -0700
Subject: [SEL] [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <006BE621-AD32-44FB-895B-DE24AF395053@me.com>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>
	<000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>
	<006BE621-AD32-44FB-895B-DE24AF395053@me.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinmGwEMn-OEwiOckS9DXZT5+UAoqDFQ46zXDOHq@mail.gmail.com>

"Doesn't seem ethical to me."

It isn't ethical - it's voting.

Paul in California - where I may be voting for the next 100 years


From rotigel at me.com  Tue Sep 14 21:58:09 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:58:09 -0700
Subject: [SEL] [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <000001cb5473$b9fb0880$2df11980$@net>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>
	<000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>
	<006BE621-AD32-44FB-895B-DE24AF395053@me.com>
	<000001cb5473$b9fb0880$2df11980$@net>
Message-ID: <EC7CB48D-CAB1-43ED-AD25-E455182B092A@me.com>

By Golly Darn Dean VP, I'm glad that you are ETHICAL and everyone that  
you disagree with is NOT!
	Dave
PS, Sorry 'bout your kids!
PPS, Do you have "buyers remorse" yet?

On Sep 14, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Dean VP wrote:

> Dave,
>
> I don't think it would be appropriate to rise to that kind of  
> bait. :-) I suspect politics is
> something that is banned on this list. From my perspective this is a  
> personal ethics issue. I always
> get reminded of the situation when you find out your kids are doing  
> drugs. Their(kids) excuse is
> everybody else is doing it too. So just because the other  
> contestants are getting votes from odd
> places doesn't mean to me that I should follow suit. I'm not telling  
> anyone what they should do. I'm
> just saying I have ethical issues with this so I'm not going to  
> participate.
>
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com 
> ] On Behalf
> Of David Rotigel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:29 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Cc: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
>
> By Golly Darn DeanVP, This is the way that OBAMA was elected. What do
> you have against the kind of democracy that OBAMA stands for? Don't
> you like black people, or what?
> 	Dave
>
> On Sep 14, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Dean VP wrote:
>
>> Keith,
>>
>> I'm not comfortable with this so I won't participate. Doesn't seem
>> ethical to me. Aren't we supposed
>> to be setting an example for the  next generations?
>>
>> Dean VP
>> Snohomish, WA
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> ] On Behalf
>> Of Keith Kinney
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 2:32 PM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list; stationary-engine at oldengine.org;
> t at mail45.atl.registeredsite.com
>> Cc: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
>>
>> OK, we've done it before let's do it again.   A co-worker of mine
>> has a nephew who is up for
>> football player of the week from a local TV station.  Viewers are
>> asked to log onto their web site
>> and vote for their favorite player.  Here's the web site:
>> http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
>> Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called
>> "Player of the Week"
>> The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds.
>> Rushing, 3 TDs
>> Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".
>> It will allow one vote per computer.  I just voted and he has 38.5%
>> of the vote.  Let's see if we
>> can raise that number to over 50%.
>> Thanks.
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> Keith Kinney
>> kkinney at herculesengines.com
>> WWW.HerculesEngines.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> AT mailing list
>> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at
>>
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>
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From rotigel at me.com  Tue Sep 14 22:43:44 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 22:43:44 -0700
Subject: [SEL] [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=36-9v1OtLTLOAsVJuqYCB7q2SLsj4hp=2HiW1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>
	<000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>
	<006BE621-AD32-44FB-895B-DE24AF395053@me.com>
	<000001cb5473$b9fb0880$2df11980$@net>
	<EC7CB48D-CAB1-43ED-AD25-E455182B092A@me.com>
	<AANLkTi=5Yoijqtb9B8nyMoXPotsT68GTO6=1O=00cXu3@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=36-9v1OtLTLOAsVJuqYCB7q2SLsj4hp=2HiW1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <538F575A-4952-45CF-8B29-A96070F661C9@me.com>

Hi Mogrtis, Do you realize how "unethical" you are?
	Dave
PS, GO BRIGGS!

On Sep 14, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Mogrits wrote:

> I clicked the link and voted. Even though two other kids had better
> performances I voted per my ATIS "brothers" request. After all, One
> kid played for a Catholic High School and the other for Tecumseh High.
> No self respecting Briggs & Stratton guy can vote for a Tecumseh
> anything...float bowls that clog and crappy points and all that mess.
>
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Mogrits <mogrits at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Good grief. Vote for the kid already.
>>
>> 220 yds and 3 TD's. Amazing.
>>
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From rotigel at me.com  Tue Sep 14 22:54:26 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 22:54:26 -0700
Subject: [SEL] [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinmGwEMn-OEwiOckS9DXZT5+UAoqDFQ46zXDOHq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>
	<000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>
	<006BE621-AD32-44FB-895B-DE24AF395053@me.com>
	<AANLkTinmGwEMn-OEwiOckS9DXZT5+UAoqDFQ46zXDOHq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E10B24FF-7E4D-4727-A6C1-A09852E99B39@me.com>

Some (who want to tell others how ETHICAL they are) do not understand  
the difference Paul!
	Dave

On Sep 14, 2010, at 6:52 PM, P. Johns wrote:

> "Doesn't seem ethical to me."
>
> It isn't ethical - it's voting.
>
> Paul in California - where I may be voting for the next 100 years


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 14 21:34:20 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:34:20 -0400
Subject: [SEL] [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <538F575A-4952-45CF-8B29-A96070F661C9@me.com>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>
	<000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>
	<006BE621-AD32-44FB-895B-DE24AF395053@me.com>
	<000001cb5473$b9fb0880$2df11980$@net>
	<EC7CB48D-CAB1-43ED-AD25-E455182B092A@me.com>
	<AANLkTi=5Yoijqtb9B8nyMoXPotsT68GTO6=1O=00cXu3@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=36-9v1OtLTLOAsVJuqYCB7q2SLsj4hp=2HiW1@mail.gmail.com>
	<538F575A-4952-45CF-8B29-A96070F661C9@me.com>
Message-ID: <12c404a14aa2c222ea8be831f9029e8a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

ROFLMAO!!!!!!

On Wed, September 15, 2010 1:43 am, David Rotigel wrote:
> Hi Mogrtis, Do you realize how "unethical" you are?
> 	Dave
> PS, GO BRIGGS!
>
> On Sep 14, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Mogrits wrote:
>
>> I clicked the link and voted. Even though two other kids had better
>> performances I voted per my ATIS "brothers" request. After all, One
>> kid played for a Catholic High School and the other for Tecumseh High.
>> No self respecting Briggs & Stratton guy can vote for a Tecumseh
>> anything...float bowls that clog and crappy points and all that mess.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Mogrits <mogrits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Good grief. Vote for the kid already.
>>>
>>> 220 yds and 3 TD's. Amazing.




From russell at ncable.com.au  Wed Sep 15 04:11:48 2010
From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:11:48 +1000
Subject: [SEL] International LB mixer.
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100907170957.01e8c1e0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100907170957.01e8c1e0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <20100915111134.ADD1133881E@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au>

Hi Jerry I recon I might be able to help, send me a note off list, I 
will respond sometime next week, I have a bit on right now.
regards Russell

At 01:14 AM 8/09/2010, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>          A friend just found an International LB but the tank and mixer are
>missing. The tank is easy to fabricate locally but does anyone have a spare
>mixer (and maybe a few more parts) for sale?
>
>          A suppliers name would also be a good.
>
>Many thanks,
>
>
>Keep the revs up (or down)
>Jerry Evans
>Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
>Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
><www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Wed Sep 15 05:20:49 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:20:49 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Cornell University help
Message-ID: <49165C3AC81743ED8841F0AC0164B487@peterlowe>

Hi all

The request I made yesterday on the University of Illinois has been cleared up, the two Thesis manuscripts I am after are very rare and actually the only copies in existance, so I am now dealing with the "Rare Books and Manuscripts Library at Illinois University as these two items cannot be lent out to other libraries because of their fragile nature.

I am now dealing with another Thesis manuscript from Cornell University, Ithaca, NY, looks like these can be lent out on microfilm to other major libraries in the USA only.
Is there anyone in our group that has time and is a regualr Library user that is prepared to go through this manuscript and copy it for me. I am assuming I can get it copied, need to ask futher as to how many pages also.

Yes this is Gas Engine related and to do with Root & VanDervoort Engineering Co.

I am prepared to pay for time involved if needed, reply back to this email address only and not to the LIST please, plowe at exemail.com.au
.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Skype name: ozengines

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 15 07:46:41 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:46:41 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cornell University help
In-Reply-To: <49165C3AC81743ED8841F0AC0164B487@peterlowe>
References: <49165C3AC81743ED8841F0AC0164B487@peterlowe>
Message-ID: <9a98765190e3381cb652b1e788c6aa0e.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

G'day Peter,

Sounds like a damn fine reason to cross the pond again.  8-))
Coolspring is October 14-16 and not too far from Cornell.

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, September 15, 2010 8:20 am, Peter Lowe wrote:
> I am now dealing with another Thesis manuscript from Cornell University, Ithaca, NY,
> looks like these can be lent out on microfilm to other major libraries in the USA
> only.





From mcanady at lilleyinternational.com  Wed Sep 15 08:03:02 2010
From: mcanady at lilleyinternational.com (Merton Canady)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:03:02 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC
Message-ID: <B9D545915CF543778B5D06F74DC42B19@merton>

I am in need of some help in moving a Hog OIler to the WNC Fall Harvest Days Show in Arden NC this year from Gastonia NC. Or somewhere nearer to Washington NC! Please let me know if you can help. Thanks Merton Canady

From jerrye at databak.co.za  Wed Sep 15 13:13:34 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:13:34 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi All,
	I've been wondering about that skinny Aussie guy since Portland. The lists 
have been awfully quiet about him lately!

	The last I saw was a pic of him with his tentacles wrapped around the 
delectable Debbie.

	Is he lost! Has he gone "walkabout" ?

	Arnie, have you heard from "Bambi and Nitro" lately or are they also 
"lost". ???

	Has anyone been in contact with Marg ?

Jerry,
(concerned in South Africa)



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 15 14:27:50 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:27:50 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Australia National Rally - 2012?
Message-ID: <beb86af6a4cfc86380b3dad4e2d9d535.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

When and where is the National Rally in 2012?

The Yanks are thinking about an invasion.  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

Arnie Fero
Pittsburgh, PA USA
fero_ah at city-net.com





From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Wed Sep 15 14:29:14 2010
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:29:14 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Australia National Rally - 2012?
In-Reply-To: <beb86af6a4cfc86380b3dad4e2d9d535.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <beb86af6a4cfc86380b3dad4e2d9d535.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <87903BA747074439AA4686EB47A7C2C0@KerryPC>

G,Day Arnie

2 Sep 2011 over 3 days in Western Australia, south of Perth

Kerry


> When and where is the National Rally in 2012?
> 
> The Yanks are thinking about an invasion.  8-))
> 
> See ya,  Arnie
> 



From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Wed Sep 15 14:34:50 2010
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:34:50 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Australia National Rally - 2012?
In-Reply-To: <beb86af6a4cfc86380b3dad4e2d9d535.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <beb86af6a4cfc86380b3dad4e2d9d535.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <A57F215E3E354383AF568202CE6A4629@KerryPC>

G'Day again

Arnie I think Russell's original suggestion was for the next one in the 
Eastern States where most of us on the list live. Nationals are held every 
two years so 2013, where and when will be decided next year at the Western 
Australia event

Kerry



> When and where is the National Rally in 2012?
>
> The Yanks are thinking about an invasion.  8-))
>
> See ya,  Arnie



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 15 14:47:21 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:47:21 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Australia National Rally - 2012?
In-Reply-To: <A57F215E3E354383AF568202CE6A4629@KerryPC>
References: <beb86af6a4cfc86380b3dad4e2d9d535.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<A57F215E3E354383AF568202CE6A4629@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <eb9863e959d9521739802304312ce662.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

YUP!  That's more like what I was thinking!
Plus that gives us more time to save up for the beer.

On Wed, September 15, 2010 5:34 pm, Kerry wrote:
> Arnie I think Russell's original suggestion was for the next one in the
> Eastern States where most of us on the list live. Nationals are held every
> two years so 2013, where and when will be decided next year at the Western
> Australia event





From George_Best at adp.com  Wed Sep 15 14:47:18 2010
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:47:18 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Australia National Rally - 2012?
In-Reply-To: <87903BA747074439AA4686EB47A7C2C0@KerryPC>
References: <beb86af6a4cfc86380b3dad4e2d9d535.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<87903BA747074439AA4686EB47A7C2C0@KerryPC>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4682575B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Which year did Arnie really mean?
2012 or 2011?

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:29 PM
To: Stationary Engine List
Subject: Re: [SEL] Australia National Rally - 2012?

G,Day Arnie

2 Sep 2011 over 3 days in Western Australia, south of Perth

Kerry


> When and where is the National Rally in 2012?
> 
> The Yanks are thinking about an invasion.  8-))
> 
> See ya,  Arnie
> 

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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Wed Sep 15 14:56:09 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:56:09 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC
References: <B9D545915CF543778B5D06F74DC42B19@merton>
Message-ID: <004701cb5520$ce08d1b0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Merton:

  Ray Medford, Tommy Berry, Bill Herndon and Curt Holland all live in the 
Gastonia vicinity and most go to Arden.  If they don't, I am in Shelby and I 
will be going.

Mike Royster

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Merton Canady" <mcanady at lilleyinternational.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:03 AM
Subject: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC


>I am in need of some help in moving a Hog OIler to the WNC Fall Harvest 
>Days Show in Arden NC this year from Gastonia NC. Or somewhere nearer to 
>Washington NC! Please let me know if you can help. Thanks Merton Canady
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From bst41474 at bigpond.net.au  Wed Sep 15 15:57:59 2010
From: bst41474 at bigpond.net.au (Barry & Tanya Stait)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:57:59 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Australia National Rally - 2012?
In-Reply-To: <eb9863e959d9521739802304312ce662.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <beb86af6a4cfc86380b3dad4e2d9d535.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><A57F215E3E354383AF568202CE6A4629@KerryPC>
	<eb9863e959d9521739802304312ce662.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <33D5ED1D5FB14D94B87E6988355C96E5@Stait>

Going by the state roster, it should be in NSW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Cc: "Stationary Engine List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Australia National Rally - 2012?


> YUP!  That's more like what I was thinking!
> Plus that gives us more time to save up for the beer.
>
> On Wed, September 15, 2010 5:34 pm, Kerry wrote:
>> Arnie I think Russell's original suggestion was for the next one in the
>> Eastern States where most of us on the list live. Nationals are held 
>> every
>> two years so 2013, where and when will be decided next year at the 
>> Western
>> Australia event
>
>
>
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From plowe at exemail.com.au  Wed Sep 15 21:39:53 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (plowe at exemail.com.au)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:39:53 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cornell University help
Message-ID: <380-22010941643953910@M2W123.mail2web.com>

Damn you Arnie, you know how to stir a guy up, now how do I get around Kaye
on this trip.
Pete



G'day Peter,

Sounds like a damn fine reason to cross the pond again.  8-))
Coolspring is October 14-16 and not too far from Cornell.

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, September 15, 2010 8:20 am, Peter Lowe wrote:
> I am now dealing with another Thesis manuscript from Cornell University,
Ithaca, NY,
> looks like these can be lent out on microfilm to other major libraries in
the USA
> only.



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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 15 22:17:11 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:17:11 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cornell University help
In-Reply-To: <380-22010941643953910@M2W123.mail2web.com>
References: <380-22010941643953910@M2W123.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <f97272c9f475d0a95b916bad86582dab.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Tell her the musty old Cornell archives would upset her allergies?

On Thu, September 16, 2010 12:39 am, plowe at exemail.com.au wrote:
> Damn you Arnie, you know how to stir a guy up, now how do I get around Kaye
> on this trip.
>
> G'day Peter,
>
> Sounds like a damn fine reason to cross the pond again.  8-))
> Coolspring is October 14-16 and not too far from Cornell.





From mjhamric at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 16 05:52:20 2010
From: mjhamric at yahoo.com (Miles Hamrick)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 05:52:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC
Message-ID: <384006.16700.qm@web58502.mail.re3.yahoo.com>











Merton,
?
I too can help you with this.? I know that I am new to the "list" but the elders (primarily Arnie)?have welcomed me to this big family or that is what he referred to?it that night over a jar of?XXX.? Let me know if I can help out.
?
Miles?

--- On Wed, 9/15/10, Merton Canady <mcanady at lilleyinternational.com> wrote

From: Merton Canady <mcanady at lilleyinternational.com>
Subject: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 11:03 AM


I am in need of some help in moving a Hog OIler to the WNC Fall Harvest Days Show in Arden NC this year from Gastonia NC. Or somewhere nearer to Washington NC! Please let me know if you can help. Thanks Merton Canady
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From rob at rustyiron.com  Thu Sep 16 07:30:09 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:30:09 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC
In-Reply-To: <384006.16700.qm@web58502.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <384006.16700.qm@web58502.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <551AAD32-DC5A-496B-B255-63832EE13302@rustyiron.com>


On Sep 16, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Miles Hamrick wrote:
>
> the elders (primarily Arnie) have welcomed me

Despite this big black cloud hanging over your
reputation, Miles, I'm sure you're really a very nice fellow.

Rob




From no1djc at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 16 07:37:51 2010
From: no1djc at hotmail.com (David Carter)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:37:51 +0000
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <1900497948.2113691284463666624.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
References: <BAY156-w63F697FC5C8A4C5497574B92770@phx.gbl>,
	<1900497948.2113691284463666624.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>
Message-ID: <BAY156-w16B7735E5FE83D582A5D62927A0@phx.gbl>


Curt,
   If I remember correctly, when you lift the lever (there are actually two, the lower lifts the smaller one above it) to start the set, the circuits are reconfigured to series from parallel(??). The lever makes and breaks several sets of contacts to do this. Once the engine fires and speeds up, the flow of electricity is reversed through the circuit and the larger of the two coils. When running and the lever is lowered, the upper lever(or flap) is held up in the charging position by the coils above it and the current flowing through them, holding contacts in place. As the start lever is lowered other contacts return to the charging configuration. The electromagnet has two windings, a large gauge winding and a small gauge winding. When I rebuilt mine I had to rewind the inner (small gauge) coil as the wire had burnt out at some point. When I rebuilt it I could not get it to hold in position, then I realised that I did not know which way the coil was originally connected to the terminals. I reversed the wires and it held in place. (They must have to work in unison). Through the charging circuit there is a circuit for the ignition coil which stops the engine if the upper lever drops though lack of charging current. This could be why yours stops when you let go of the levers.
 The set was designed to run at full charge i.e. always giving (almost full) power for lighting and/or charging batteries. If the engine speed, hence charge rate dropped, the levers dropped and all stopped. The only governing on the engine was the load and the fixed jet size in the mixer. According to the manual engine speed would be about 1200rpm.
 
I no longer have the wiring diagrams as I sold the set last year. But I should see the owner in next week at a show so I'll ask him for a photcopy of the wiring and send it to you. It may be quicker to try "Delco Don" on Smokstak's Sparks and Arcs.  
I have dug out two pics showing the two sides of the start control levers and the coil feed terminals. As the lever is raised contacts are broken and others made. You really need a wiring diagram to follow it through.  
 The outer coil terminals:-
 http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2061806560104310933EEoFPO

 

The two square inner coil terminals top left :-

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2083897180104310933oMqRzD

 

 As the original ignition coil had burnt out I rewired a car coil,(a Delco by co-incidence), and used a knife switch so it could be run from the batteries without any charging taking place.

 

 The contactor arms are slightly bent in places and they act as springs against the action of the lever.

 

As for phone number, well, I live on a little island just off your west coast .......called England.

 

Hope this helps you out. Let me know how you get on.

 

Regards, Dave.

 

> Ok Dave, the felt did the trick. Will now put a c-clip in to retain it better. Engine getting fuel now. Also having a problem with the starter switch not holding. I have to hold on to the switch to keep it running. Not sure if one of those contact levers are bent. If you could take some detailed pics of your starter (with cover off) so I can better see if there is some sort of wear I sure would appreciate it or if you have some other suggestion. Also what is your phone number so I can chat with you a bit.
> Thanks again,
> Curt

 		 	   		  

From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Sep 16 12:12:01 2010
From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:12:01 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC
References: <384006.16700.qm@web58502.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<551AAD32-DC5A-496B-B255-63832EE13302@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <A66BC01E7D7F4D0982A5064B5FDAD865@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>

Rob,
        It sure was the most memorable night at Portland that  I've had on 
any of my trips, you guys missed a good one!! (AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR!!, or 
should that be , CHAAAAARRRRRRRR!!).

Craig
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Skinner" <rob at rustyiron.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC


>
> On Sep 16, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Miles Hamrick wrote:
>>
>> the elders (primarily Arnie) have welcomed me
>
> Despite this big black cloud hanging over your
> reputation, Miles, I'm sure you're really a very nice fellow.
>
> Rob
>
>
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From rotigel at me.com  Thu Sep 16 17:32:10 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:32:10 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <001c01cb545f$a79aafb0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>
	<001c01cb545f$a79aafb0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <650F9637-3FC8-4B59-9843-F45380BCD0C6@me.com>

41.3% as of 5:25 PM, Thursday the 16th. (I think this Isaac kid is  
CHEETING!) When is the voting over?
	Dave

On Sep 14, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Mike Royster wrote:

> 39.3
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Keith Kinney
>  To: The SEL email discussion list ; stationary- 
> engine at oldengine.org ; t at mail45.atl.registeredsite.com
>  Cc: Antique tractor email discussion group
>  Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:31 PM
>  Subject: Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
>
>
>  OK, we've done it before let's do it again.   A co-worker of mine  
> has a nephew who is up for football player of the week from a local  
> TV station.  Viewers are asked to log onto their web site and vote  
> for their favorite player.  Here's the web site:
>  http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
>  Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called  
> "Player of the Week"
>  The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds.  
> Rushing, 3 TDs
>  Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".
>  It will allow one vote per computer.  I just voted and he has 38.5%  
> of the vote.  Let's see if we can raise that number to over 50%.
>  Thanks.
>  Keith
>
>
>
>
>  Keith Kinney
>  kkinney at herculesengines.com
>  WWW.HerculesEngines.com
>
>
>
>
>
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From rob at rustyiron.com  Thu Sep 16 17:34:05 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:34:05 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC
In-Reply-To: <A66BC01E7D7F4D0982A5064B5FDAD865@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>
References: <384006.16700.qm@web58502.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<551AAD32-DC5A-496B-B255-63832EE13302@rustyiron.com>
	<A66BC01E7D7F4D0982A5064B5FDAD865@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>
Message-ID: <A2967A87-66D0-4860-809A-F8E936DEDF95@rustyiron.com>


On Sep 16, 2010, at 12:12 PM, craig morrison wrote:
> It sure was the most memorable night at Portland that  I've had on
> any of my trips, you guys missed a good one!! (AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR!!,  
> or
> should that be , CHAAAAARRRRRRRR!!).


Hi, Craig.
Is this "Char" of which you write anything like the
Australian "BLUUUUUUUUUUNDY!" rum that was
served one year at Portland?





From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Thu Sep 16 19:17:19 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:17:19 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC
References: <384006.16700.qm@web58502.mail.re3.yahoo.com><551AAD32-DC5A-496B-B255-63832EE13302@rustyiron.com><A66BC01E7D7F4D0982A5064B5FDAD865@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>
	<A2967A87-66D0-4860-809A-F8E936DEDF95@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <40547B7DF981401886BC1406BACEB5B3@regpc>

The Royster bloke had a LOT to do with Arnie's sore head!  (It was meant for 
that Judge bloke prior to another shed raid!)
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
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From: "Rob Skinner" <rob at rustyiron.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Transport to Arden NC


>
> On Sep 16, 2010, at 12:12 PM, craig morrison wrote:
>> It sure was the most memorable night at Portland that  I've had on
>> any of my trips, you guys missed a good one!! (AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR!!,
>> or
>> should that be , CHAAAAARRRRRRRR!!).
>
>
> Hi, Craig.
> Is this "Char" of which you write anything like the
> Australian "BLUUUUUUUUUUNDY!" rum that was
> served one year at Portland?
>
>
>
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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Thu Sep 16 22:04:53 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:04:53 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>

Hi Jerry, I picked up the shed man on Tues. morning, as usual, a big grin on 
his face but looking a bit tired.   It is now Fri. afternoon, he has mowed 
the grass, whipper snipped, cleaned the pool, swept out the shed and almost 
caught up with things.   One thing is bothering me, I may contact Dave and 
see if he can tell me what is/has happened.   Two nights in a row Reg has 
woken me up yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!   He is still asleep, but has 
a stupid gooey look on his face, if it happens tonite, I may have to give 
him a clip under the ear!   Other than that, it is good to have him home.
Marg x
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold 




From plowe at exemail.com.au  Fri Sep 17 00:40:23 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:40:23 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Looking for gas engine owner
Message-ID: <1B34D783BD004C17BB952157ED6CA6E9@peterlowe>

Hi all
Does anyone know this guy, John Drumm, Manitowoc, WI ??

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Skype name: ozengines




From cgandree at mchsi.com  Fri Sep 17 03:15:32 2010
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:15:32 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] Looking for gas engine owner
In-Reply-To: <1B34D783BD004C17BB952157ED6CA6E9@peterlowe>
Message-ID: <1545173815.2763431284718532874.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

Met him at Jason Dahm's farm last fall. You might contact Jason directly Pete.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Lowe" <plowe at exemail.com.au>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>, "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 2:40:23 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [SEL] Looking for gas engine owner

Hi all
Does anyone know this guy, John Drumm, Manitowoc, WI ??

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
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From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Fri Sep 17 04:11:35 2010
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:11:35 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <650F9637-3FC8-4B59-9843-F45380BCD0C6@me.com>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>,
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>,
	<001c01cb545f$a79aafb0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>,
	<650F9637-3FC8-4B59-9843-F45380BCD0C6@me.com>
Message-ID: <SNT118-W26CF9933F241724CF36F2AC87B0@phx.gbl>


41.9%   I was able to vote again this morning.

Luke Tonneberger
Rockford, Michigan
USA 

=========================
 
> From: rotigel at me.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:32:10 -0700
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
> 
> 41.3% as of 5:25 PM, Thursday the 16th. (I think this Isaac kid is 
> CHEETING!) When is the voting over?
> Dave
> 
> On Sep 14, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Mike Royster wrote:
> 
> > 39.3
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Keith Kinney
> > To: The SEL email discussion list ; stationary- 
> > engine at oldengine.org ; t at mail45.atl.registeredsite.com
> > Cc: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:31 PM
> > Subject: Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
> >
> >
> > OK, we've done it before let's do it again. A co-worker of mine 
> > has a nephew who is up for football player of the week from a local 
> > TV station. Viewers are asked to log onto their web site and vote 
> > for their favorite player. Here's the web site:
> > http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
> > Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called 
> > "Player of the Week"
> > The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds. 
> > Rushing, 3 TDs
> > Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".
> > It will allow one vote per computer. I just voted and he has 38.5% 
> > of the vote. Let's see if we can raise that number to over 50%.
> > Thanks.
> > Keith
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Keith Kinney
> > kkinney at herculesengines.com
> > WWW.HerculesEngines.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Fri Sep 17 05:13:20 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:13:20 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <650F9637-3FC8-4B59-9843-F45380BCD0C6@me.com>
Message-ID: <F1EC53CAE912480BBD9AD336E448149C@laruecounty.courthouse>

I just hit it from my office computer and its going to be hard for the
others to catch him.  The Owensboro Catholic kid (hey, that's a KY
school!) has some impressive stats.  5 touchdowns!  Wow, must have been
playing against the Middle School team.... 

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY


-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David
Rotigel
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:32 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.

41.3% as of 5:25 PM, Thursday the 16th. (I think this Isaac kid is  
CHEETING!) When is the voting over?
	Dave





From rotigel at me.com  Fri Sep 17 08:18:03 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:18:03 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>
Message-ID: <B1248CAE-6F6F-428A-93E8-24C59606500D@me.com>

Hi Marg,
	Please tell Reg that the Harbor Freight gal contacted me last week  
and asked me to tell Reg that "The tests came back negative." I have  
no idea what that means, but when he finishes his chores please pass  
that bit of information on to him!
	XXOO, Dave

On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:04 PM, Reg Ingold wrote:

> Hi Jerry, I picked up the shed man on Tues. morning, as usual, a big  
> grin on
> his face but looking a bit tired.   It is now Fri. afternoon, he has  
> mowed
> the grass, whipper snipped, cleaned the pool, swept out the shed and  
> almost
> caught up with things.   One thing is bothering me, I may contact  
> Dave and
> see if he can tell me what is/has happened.   Two nights in a row  
> Reg has
> woken me up yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!   He is still asleep,  
> but has
> a stupid gooey look on his face, if it happens tonite, I may have to  
> give
> him a clip under the ear!   Other than that, it is good to have him  
> home.
> Marg x


From rotigel at me.com  Fri Sep 17 08:40:24 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:40:24 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <F1EC53CAE912480BBD9AD336E448149C@laruecounty.courthouse>
References: <F1EC53CAE912480BBD9AD336E448149C@laruecounty.courthouse>
Message-ID: <370C9892-9A0E-47F6-B861-5D426EAA4B48@me.com>

That Catholic kid is CHEETING. His mother probably asked all her  
friends to vote for him. How UNETHICAL!!!!!!!!!
	Dave

On Sep 17, 2010, at 5:13 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:

> I just hit it from my office computer and its going to be hard for the
> others to catch him.  The Owensboro Catholic kid (hey, that's a KY
> school!) has some impressive stats.  5 touchdowns!  Wow, must have  
> been
> playing against the Middle School team....
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David
> Rotigel
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:32 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
>
> 41.3% as of 5:25 PM, Thursday the 16th. (I think this Isaac kid is
> CHEETING!) When is the voting over?
> 	Dave
>
>
>
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From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Fri Sep 17 05:38:10 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:38:10 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Engines on the Market
In-Reply-To: <B1248CAE-6F6F-428A-93E8-24C59606500D@me.com>
Message-ID: <967E8F7AB9E54A0D9CA4FB076F250A50@laruecounty.courthouse>

Just an FYI if anyone is interested.  I have purchased some antique car
parts from this guy and he's a pretty good fella.  He runs across some
engines from time to time and he's got a couple of Witte's with decent
prices on them if anyone's interested.  Both need EK's.  Many years ago
I had a friend who had a 6 HP Witte on a grist mill. It did the job
well.

http://www.modelthaven.com/cars1.html

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY





From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Fri Sep 17 05:59:25 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:59:25 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <370C9892-9A0E-47F6-B861-5D426EAA4B48@me.com>
Message-ID: <E1348AAAB62F4E638485E46FE9C85A81@laruecounty.courthouse>

Dave,
	If he's a good KY Catholic, he's got 15 brothers and sisters.
All they have to do is get all the family voting and they win!

Tommy Turner



That Catholic kid is CHEETING. His mother probably asked all her  
friends to vote for him. How UNETHICAL!!!!!!!!!
	Dave

On Sep 17, 2010, at 5:13 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:

> I just hit it from my office computer and its going to be hard for the
> others to catch him.  The Owensboro Catholic kid (hey, that's a KY
> school!) has some impressive stats.  5 touchdowns!  Wow, must have  
> been
> playing against the Middle School team....
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David
> Rotigel
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:32 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
>
> 41.3% as of 5:25 PM, Thursday the 16th. (I think this Isaac kid is
> CHEETING!) When is the voting over?
> 	Dave
>
>
>
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Sep 17 06:33:37 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:33:37 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>
Message-ID: <ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

ROFLMAO!!!!   OK, Marg, you OWE me for a new laptop!  This one has coffee snorted
all over it!!

Just remember one thing, what happens at Harbor Freight, stays at Harbor Freight.
8-))

See ya.  Love ya.  Arnie

On Fri, September 17, 2010 1:04 am, Reg Ingold wrote:
> Hi Jerry, I picked up the shed man on Tues. morning, as usual, a big grin on
> his face but looking a bit tired.   It is now Fri. afternoon, he has mowed
> the grass, whipper snipped, cleaned the pool, swept out the shed and almost
> caught up with things.   One thing is bothering me, I may contact Dave and
> see if he can tell me what is/has happened.   Two nights in a row Reg has
> woken me up yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!   He is still asleep, but has
> a stupid gooey look on his face, if it happens tonite, I may have to give
> him a clip under the ear!   Other than that, it is good to have him home.
> Marg x




From cgandree at mchsi.com  Fri Sep 17 06:30:25 2010
From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:30:25 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <BAY156-w16B7735E5FE83D582A5D62927A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1081926330.2786401284730224862.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11>

David,
Are you on SKYPE?  If not send me your number any way please.
thanks,
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Carter" <no1djc at hotmail.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:37:51 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [SEL] DELCO LIGHT PLANT HELP NEEDED


Curt,
   If I remember correctly, when you lift the lever (there are actually two, the lower lifts the smaller one above it) to start the set, the circuits are reconfigured to series from parallel(??). The lever makes and breaks several sets of contacts to do this. Once the engine fires and speeds up, the flow of electricity is reversed through the circuit and the larger of the two coils. When running and the lever is lowered, the upper lever(or flap) is held up in the charging position by the coils above it and the current flowing through them, holding contacts in place. As the start lever is lowered other contacts return to the charging configuration. The electromagnet has two windings, a large gauge winding and a small gauge winding. When I rebuilt mine I had to rewind the inner (small gauge) coil as the wire had burnt out at some point. When I rebuilt it I could not get it to hold in position, then I realised that I did not know which way the coil was originally connected to t!
 he terminals. I reversed the wires and it held in place. (They must have to work in unison). Through the charging circuit there is a circuit for the ignition coil which stops the engine if the upper lever drops though lack of charging current. This could be why yours stops when you let go of the levers.
 The set was designed to run at full charge i.e. always giving (almost full) power for lighting and/or charging batteries. If the engine speed, hence charge rate dropped, the levers dropped and all stopped. The only governing on the engine was the load and the fixed jet size in the mixer. According to the manual engine speed would be about 1200rpm.
 
I no longer have the wiring diagrams as I sold the set last year. But I should see the owner in next week at a show so I'll ask him for a photcopy of the wiring and send it to you. It may be quicker to try "Delco Don" on Smokstak's Sparks and Arcs.  
I have dug out two pics showing the two sides of the start control levers and the coil feed terminals. As the lever is raised contacts are broken and others made. You really need a wiring diagram to follow it through.  
 The outer coil terminals:-
 http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2061806560104310933EEoFPO

 

The two square inner coil terminals top left :-

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2083897180104310933oMqRzD

 

 As the original ignition coil had burnt out I rewired a car coil,(a Delco by co-incidence), and used a knife switch so it could be run from the batteries without any charging taking place.

 

 The contactor arms are slightly bent in places and they act as springs against the action of the lever.

 

As for phone number, well, I live on a little island just off your west coast .......called England.

 

Hope this helps you out. Let me know how you get on.

 

Regards, Dave.

 

> Ok Dave, the felt did the trick. Will now put a c-clip in to retain it better. Engine getting fuel now. Also having a problem with the starter switch not holding. I have to hold on to the switch to keep it running. Not sure if one of those contact levers are bent. If you could take some detailed pics of your starter (with cover off) so I can better see if there is some sort of wear I sure would appreciate it or if you have some other suggestion. Also what is your phone number so I can chat with you a bit.
> Thanks again,
> Curt

 		 	   		  
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Sep 17 06:49:33 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:49:33 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <SNT118-W26CF9933F241724CF36F2AC87B0@phx.gbl>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>,
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>,
	<001c01cb545f$a79aafb0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>,
	<650F9637-3FC8-4B59-9843-F45380BCD0C6@me.com>
	<SNT118-W26CF9933F241724CF36F2AC87B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9f6062900fe1b88247642cec25704f26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Me too...
On Fri, September 17, 2010 7:11 am, Luke Tonneberger wrote:
>
> 41.9%   I was able to vote again this morning.
>> > OK, we've done it before let's do it again. A co-worker of mine
>> > has a nephew who is up for football player of the week from a local
>> > TV station. Viewers are asked to log onto their web site and vote
>> > for their favorite player. Here's the web site:
>> > http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
>> > Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called
>> > "Player of the Week"
>> > The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds.
>> > Rushing, 3 TDs
>> > Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".




From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 17 07:13:25 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:13:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <9f6062900fe1b88247642cec25704f26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <408855.82739.qm@web111703.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Mr Three.
Actually three times today
Once each with IE, Opera and Firefox?several days now.
?
Alan

--- On Fri, 9/17/10, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:


From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Friday, September 17, 2010, 9:49 AM


Me too...
On Fri, September 17, 2010 7:11 am, Luke Tonneberger wrote:
>
> 41.9%???I was able to vote again this morning.
>> > OK, we've done it before let's do it again. A co-worker of mine
>> > has a nephew who is up for football player of the week from a local
>> > TV station. Viewers are asked to log onto their web site and vote
>> > for their favorite player. Here's the web site:
>> > http://tristatehomepage.com/sports/football-first
>> > Look on the left side of the screen and look for the section called
>> > "Player of the Week"
>> > The 5th player down is Carmi Running Back Logan Rogers: 220 Yds.
>> > Rushing, 3 TDs
>> > Click on the circle next to his name and hit "Vote".


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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Fri Sep 17 09:25:13 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:25:13 +0200
Subject: [SEL]  Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1284739202.30446.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100917181522.023da100@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 17/09/2010, you wrote:
>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:32:10 -0700
>From: David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
>
>41.3% as of 5:25 PM, Thursday the 16th. (I think this Isaac kid is
>CHEETING!) When is the voting over?
>         Dave

Hi  Dave,
         I also just managed another vote! Now 42.3% just on double the 
number of votes that the cheating Catholic has!! :-)
Jerry

(P.S. TO ALL HUMOURISTICALLY CHALLENGED CATHOLICS AND LIBERALS ON THE LIST 
- NO OFFENCE MEANT - IT'S JUST A JOKE !!!!)

P.P.S. Arnie did you ever get what you wanted from that Swedish broad that 
the engine men pushed to the top ??

P.P.S. Yes I know this should be on "Slick" and yes, it is there as well. 

From jerrye at databak.co.za  Fri Sep 17 09:54:19 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:54:19 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1284739202.30446.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100917182917.023d4878@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>

At 06:00 PM 17/09/2010, you wrote:
>Message: 5
>Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:04:53 +1000
>From: "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
>
>Hi Jerry, I picked up the shed man on Tues. morning, as usual, a big grin on
>his face but looking a bit tired.   It is now Fri. afternoon, he has mowed
>the grass, whipper snipped, cleaned the pool, swept out the shed and almost
>caught up with things.   One thing is bothering me, I may contact Dave and
>see if he can tell me what is/has happened.   Two nights in a row Reg has
>woken me up yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!   He is still asleep, but has
>a stupid gooey look on his face, if it happens tonite, I may have to give
>him a clip under the ear!   Other than that, it is good to have him home.
>Marg x
>Reg & Marg Ingold

Hi Marg,
         Thanks for the reply, I'm sooooooooooo relieved that he has got 
back safely. I was very worried that those naughty Yankee buggers would 
corrupt him, him being so innocent and all !!!

         Your reply has just explained a recurring nightmare I've had for 
the last few days. A big truck is approaching me at speed and I cannot get 
out of the way - All I remember is the letters signwritten on the 
truck  "RHFT". I've tried everything but they did not make sense until now!!

         "Reg, Harbour Freight Tits" !!  No need to contact Dave - I can 
explain it all.

         He must have ordered a gift for you from "Harbour Freight" and the 
silly "Tits" messed up the order and he did not get it in time to take back 
to you. It's now so clear - no wonder he's having nightmares about it :-)

         Treat him with tenderness and love, shame, the poor guy will 
probably take some time to recover from the disappointment. No wonder he's 
been doing all those chores about the place - he's obviously "trying to 
forget".

Love,
Jerry
          

From George_Best at adp.com  Fri Sep 17 13:29:28 2010
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:29:28 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Coolspring show lodging
In-Reply-To: <967E8F7AB9E54A0D9CA4FB076F250A50@laruecounty.courthouse>
References: <B1248CAE-6F6F-428A-93E8-24C59606500D@me.com>
	<967E8F7AB9E54A0D9CA4FB076F250A50@laruecounty.courthouse>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4694A3D2@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

When people attend the Coolspring engine show where are the motels to stay at?

I need to find some place I can book 4 rooms for 8 guys.

George


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From rotigel at me.com  Fri Sep 17 16:54:05 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:54:05 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Coolspring show lodging
In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4694A3D2@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
References: <B1248CAE-6F6F-428A-93E8-24C59606500D@me.com>
	<967E8F7AB9E54A0D9CA4FB076F250A50@laruecounty.courthouse>
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Message-ID: <CE1327F2-5717-43FA-B06F-3156A76B3966@me.com>

There are a number of motels on I-80 near/in Brookville, PA George.  
Brookville is about 10 mi. north of Coolspring. See: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=Brookville+PA+motels&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
	Dave

On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Best, George wrote:

> When people attend the Coolspring engine show where are the motels  
> to stay at?
>
> I need to find some place I can book 4 rooms for 8 guys.
>
> George
>
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From blcksmth at wcnet.org  Fri Sep 17 13:54:46 2010
From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:54:46 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Coolspring show lodging
In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4694A3D2@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
References: <B1248CAE-6F6F-428A-93E8-24C59606500D@me.com><967E8F7AB9E54A0D9CA4FB076F250A50@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4694A3D2@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
Message-ID: <1889AB44434F4244A2C69259DB8A0DB1@Eagle>


	Brookville is at I-80 exit 79 or 80 and Coolspring is about 8 miles
south of there. 


Bob Willman
The Eagle's Anvil
WB8NQW
Bowling Green, Ohio

Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government.

James Madison




-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 4:29 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Coolspring show lodging

When people attend the Coolspring engine show where are the motels to stay
at?

I need to find some place I can book 4 rooms for 8 guys.

George


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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Sep 17 14:16:28 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:16:28 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Coolspring show lodging
In-Reply-To: <CE1327F2-5717-43FA-B06F-3156A76B3966@me.com>
References: <B1248CAE-6F6F-428A-93E8-24C59606500D@me.com>
	<967E8F7AB9E54A0D9CA4FB076F250A50@laruecounty.courthouse>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F4694A3D2@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<CE1327F2-5717-43FA-B06F-3156A76B3966@me.com>
Message-ID: <abca6c3f707dd7069a8dd5c1f3492130.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

George,

The other convenient option is to look at Punxsutawney hotels.
http://www.pantallhotel.com/ is one example.

Punxy is on Rt. 36 about 10 miles south of Coolspring.
That way you can get a little Punxsutawney Phil Groundhog Day flavor with your
engine show.  http://www.groundhog.org/

Ya definitely can't do THAT at Portland!  8-))

See ya.  Arnie

PS - Sounds like a HOWT in the making?

On Fri, September 17, 2010 7:54 pm, David Rotigel wrote:
> There are a number of motels on I-80 near/in Brookville, PA George.
> Brookville is about 10 mi. north of Coolspring. See:
> http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=Brookville+PA+motels&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
> 	Dave
>
> On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Best, George wrote:
>
>> When people attend the Coolspring engine show where are the motels
>> to stay at?
>>
>> I need to find some place I can book 4 rooms for 8 guys.
>>
>> George




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Fri Sep 17 15:28:43 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:28:43 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100917182917.023d4878@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
Message-ID: <8EBFF0FFA2024FA0ADAFE1EF9CCE091C@regpc>

Thankyou Jerry, I knew you would work it out!!   Poor Reggie, how he must 
have suffered!   NOT!   However, a nice little "bauble" for Christmas will 
surely make him feel better, I,ll start looking in all the local jewellers 
and see what I can come up with.
love Marg xx
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 2:54 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?


> At 06:00 PM 17/09/2010, you wrote:
>>Message: 5
>>Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:04:53 +1000
>>From: "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
>>Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
>>
>>Hi Jerry, I picked up the shed man on Tues. morning, as usual, a big grin 
>>on
>>his face but looking a bit tired.   It is now Fri. afternoon, he has mowed
>>the grass, whipper snipped, cleaned the pool, swept out the shed and 
>>almost
>>caught up with things.   One thing is bothering me, I may contact Dave and
>>see if he can tell me what is/has happened.   Two nights in a row Reg has
>>woken me up yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!   He is still asleep, but 
>>has
>>a stupid gooey look on his face, if it happens tonite, I may have to give
>>him a clip under the ear!   Other than that, it is good to have him home.
>>Marg x
>>Reg & Marg Ingold
>
> Hi Marg,
>         Thanks for the reply, I'm sooooooooooo relieved that he has got
> back safely. I was very worried that those naughty Yankee buggers would
> corrupt him, him being so innocent and all !!!
>
>         Your reply has just explained a recurring nightmare I've had for
> the last few days. A big truck is approaching me at speed and I cannot get
> out of the way - All I remember is the letters signwritten on the
> truck  "RHFT". I've tried everything but they did not make sense until 
> now!!
>
>         "Reg, Harbour Freight Tits" !!  No need to contact Dave - I can
> explain it all.
>
>         He must have ordered a gift for you from "Harbour Freight" and the
> silly "Tits" messed up the order and he did not get it in time to take 
> back
> to you. It's now so clear - no wonder he's having nightmares about it :-)
>
>         Treat him with tenderness and love, shame, the poor guy will
> probably take some time to recover from the disappointment. No wonder he's
> been doing all those chores about the place - he's obviously "trying to
> forget".
>
> Love,
> Jerry
>
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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Fri Sep 17 16:14:52 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 09:14:52 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za><42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>
	<ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>

Sorry about your keyboard Arnie, hopefully it will dry out.   Problem 
solved, our lovely friend Jerry in Joburg explained it all to me!!   It also 
broke his nightmares too!!   I think Steve Royster is at the bottom of all 
this, he is very quiet just now!!   Maybe away somewhere?
Anyway, Jerry,s explanation is fine by me.
Marg x
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?


> ROFLMAO!!!!   OK, Marg, you OWE me for a new laptop!  This one has coffee 
> snorted
> all over it!!
>
> Just remember one thing, what happens at Harbor Freight, stays at Harbor 
> Freight.
> 8-))
>
> See ya.  Love ya.  Arnie
>
> On Fri, September 17, 2010 1:04 am, Reg Ingold wrote:
>> Hi Jerry, I picked up the shed man on Tues. morning, as usual, a big grin 
>> on
>> his face but looking a bit tired.   It is now Fri. afternoon, he has 
>> mowed
>> the grass, whipper snipped, cleaned the pool, swept out the shed and 
>> almost
>> caught up with things.   One thing is bothering me, I may contact Dave 
>> and
>> see if he can tell me what is/has happened.   Two nights in a row Reg has
>> woken me up yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!   He is still asleep, but 
>> has
>> a stupid gooey look on his face, if it happens tonite, I may have to give
>> him a clip under the ear!   Other than that, it is good to have him home.
>> Marg x
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Fri Sep 17 16:15:37 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 09:15:37 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za><42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>
	<B1248CAE-6F6F-428A-93E8-24C59606500D@me.com>
Message-ID: <E6ECE9D2C3A44BE49F1B04EFD7AF5385@regpc>

Dave you are one naughty man, I don,t believe a word you are saying.
Marg x
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle NSW Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?


> Hi Marg,
> Please tell Reg that the Harbor Freight gal contacted me last week  
> and asked me to tell Reg that "The tests came back negative." I have  
> no idea what that means, but when he finishes his chores please pass  
> that bit of information on to him!
> XXOO, Dave
> 
> On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:04 PM, Reg Ingold wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jerry, I picked up the shed man on Tues. morning, as usual, a big  
>> grin on
>> his face but looking a bit tired.   It is now Fri. afternoon, he has  
>> mowed
>> the grass, whipper snipped, cleaned the pool, swept out the shed and  
>> almost
>> caught up with things.   One thing is bothering me, I may contact  
>> Dave and
>> see if he can tell me what is/has happened.   Two nights in a row  
>> Reg has
>> woken me up yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!   He is still asleep,  
>> but has
>> a stupid gooey look on his face, if it happens tonite, I may have to  
>> give
>> him a clip under the ear!   Other than that, it is good to have him  
>> home.
>> Marg x
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From rotigel at me.com  Fri Sep 17 19:40:42 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:40:42 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <E6ECE9D2C3A44BE49F1B04EFD7AF5385@regpc>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>
	<B1248CAE-6F6F-428A-93E8-24C59606500D@me.com>
	<E6ECE9D2C3A44BE49F1B04EFD7AF5385@regpc>
Message-ID: <822988FF-5D06-4898-8B10-169470A7E9CA@me.com>

Hi Marg, How long will it be before you let Reg use the computer again?
	Dave

On Sep 17, 2010, at 4:15 PM, Reg Ingold wrote:

> Dave you are one naughty man, I don,t believe a word you are saying.
> Marg x
> Reg & Marg Ingold
> Newcastle NSW Australia
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
>
>
>> Hi Marg,
>> Please tell Reg that the Harbor Freight gal contacted me last week
>> and asked me to tell Reg that "The tests came back negative." I have
>> no idea what that means, but when he finishes his chores please pass
>> that bit of information on to him!
>> XXOO, Dave
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:04 PM, Reg Ingold wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jerry, I picked up the shed man on Tues. morning, as usual, a big
>>> grin on
>>> his face but looking a bit tired.   It is now Fri. afternoon, he has
>>> mowed
>>> the grass, whipper snipped, cleaned the pool, swept out the shed and
>>> almost
>>> caught up with things.   One thing is bothering me, I may contact
>>> Dave and
>>> see if he can tell me what is/has happened.   Two nights in a row
>>> Reg has
>>> woken me up yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!   He is still asleep,
>>> but has
>>> a stupid gooey look on his face, if it happens tonite, I may have to
>>> give
>>> him a clip under the ear!   Other than that, it is good to have him
>>> home.
>>> Marg x
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Fri Sep 17 18:59:45 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:59:45 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za><42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc><ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>
Message-ID: <001801cb56d5$2ae14420$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Marg:

  You are sooooo right about my brother!  Steve is too quiet, probably 
racked with guilt as he is the one that took poor innocent Reg to Tractor 
Supply and exposed him to that vixen.  My brother, bless his heart!

MR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?


> Sorry about your keyboard Arnie, hopefully it will dry out.   Problem
> solved, our lovely friend Jerry in Joburg explained it all to me!!   It 
> also
> broke his nightmares too!!   I think Steve Royster is at the bottom of all
> this, he is very quiet just now!!   Maybe away somewhere?
> Anyway, Jerry,s explanation is fine by me.
> Marg x
> Reg & Marg Ingold
> Newcastle NSW Australia
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
>
>
>> ROFLMAO!!!!   OK, Marg, you OWE me for a new laptop!  This one has coffee
>> snorted
>> all over it!!
>>
>> Just remember one thing, what happens at Harbor Freight, stays at Harbor
>> Freight.
>> 8-))
>>
>> See ya.  Love ya.  Arnie
>>
>> On Fri, September 17, 2010 1:04 am, Reg Ingold wrote:
>>> Hi Jerry, I picked up the shed man on Tues. morning, as usual, a big 
>>> grin
>>> on
>>> his face but looking a bit tired.   It is now Fri. afternoon, he has
>>> mowed
>>> the grass, whipper snipped, cleaned the pool, swept out the shed and
>>> almost
>>> caught up with things.   One thing is bothering me, I may contact Dave
>>> and
>>> see if he can tell me what is/has happened.   Two nights in a row Reg 
>>> has
>>> woken me up yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!   He is still asleep, but
>>> has
>>> a stupid gooey look on his face, if it happens tonite, I may have to 
>>> give
>>> him a clip under the ear!   Other than that, it is good to have him 
>>> home.
>>> Marg x
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
>
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Sep 17 19:13:04 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:13:04 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za><42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>
	<ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>
Message-ID: <90bfccd2a349b774321f662dee587769.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

G'day Marg,

No worries m'lady, got the keyboard & monitor sorted.  And I think you're on EXACTLY
the right track shopping the local jewelry stores for a suitable Christmas bauble to
help clear your mind of the HORROR of being awakened each night by Reg (the
barbarian) yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!

And you are SOOOO perceptive at recognizing straight away that the evil Cloistered
Oyster Steve was at the root of this evil.  He is a baddun'!!

See ya,  Arnie

On Fri, September 17, 2010 7:14 pm, Reg Ingold wrote:
> Sorry about your keyboard Arnie, hopefully it will dry out.   Problem
> solved, our lovely friend Jerry in Joburg explained it all to me!!   It also
> broke his nightmares too!!   I think Steve Royster is at the bottom of all
> this, he is very quiet just now!!   Maybe away somewhere?
> Anyway, Jerry,s explanation is fine by me.
> Marg x




From rotigel at me.com  Fri Sep 17 22:29:13 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:29:13 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <001801cb56d5$2ae14420$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>
	<ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>
	<001801cb56d5$2ae14420$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <623180D5-E928-493D-AF6E-F74B7146AFEE@me.com>

Holy S#!T--you mean there was one at Tractor Supply as well?
	Dave

On Sep 17, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Mike Royster wrote:

> Marg:
>
>  You are sooooo right about my brother!  Steve is too quiet, probably
> racked with guilt as he is the one that took poor innocent Reg to  
> Tractor
> Supply and exposed him to that vixen.  My brother, bless his heart!
>
> MR
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Reg Ingold" <randmingold at hotkey.net.au>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
>
>
>> Sorry about your keyboard Arnie, hopefully it will dry out.   Problem
>> solved, our lovely friend Jerry in Joburg explained it all to  
>> me!!   It
>> also
>> broke his nightmares too!!   I think Steve Royster is at the bottom  
>> of all
>> this, he is very quiet just now!!   Maybe away somewhere?
>> Anyway, Jerry,s explanation is fine by me.
>> Marg x
>> Reg & Marg Ingold
>> Newcastle NSW Australia
>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
>>
>>
>>> ROFLMAO!!!!   OK, Marg, you OWE me for a new laptop!  This one has  
>>> coffee
>>> snorted
>>> all over it!!
>>>
>>> Just remember one thing, what happens at Harbor Freight, stays at  
>>> Harbor
>>> Freight.
>>> 8-))
>>>
>>> See ya.  Love ya.  Arnie
>>>
>>> On Fri, September 17, 2010 1:04 am, Reg Ingold wrote:
>>>> Hi Jerry, I picked up the shed man on Tues. morning, as usual, a  
>>>> big
>>>> grin
>>>> on
>>>> his face but looking a bit tired.   It is now Fri. afternoon, he  
>>>> has
>>>> mowed
>>>> the grass, whipper snipped, cleaned the pool, swept out the shed  
>>>> and
>>>> almost
>>>> caught up with things.   One thing is bothering me, I may contact  
>>>> Dave
>>>> and
>>>> see if he can tell me what is/has happened.   Two nights in a row  
>>>> Reg
>>>> has
>>>> woken me up yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!   He is still  
>>>> asleep, but
>>>> has
>>>> a stupid gooey look on his face, if it happens tonite, I may have  
>>>> to
>>>> give
>>>> him a clip under the ear!   Other than that, it is good to have him
>>>> home.
>>>> Marg x
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SEL mailing list
>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>>
>>
>>
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From marinesurveys at msn.com  Sat Sep 18 01:56:58 2010
From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 04:56:58 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wisconsin Model TF
In-Reply-To: <623180D5-E928-493D-AF6E-F74B7146AFEE@me.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za>,
	<42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>,
	<ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	<0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>,
	<001801cb56d5$2ae14420$0201a8c0@mikecomp>,
	<623180D5-E928-493D-AF6E-F74B7146AFEE@me.com>
Message-ID: <COL106-W598ED4991F307D2A78B338B47C0@phx.gbl>




 Hi Folks;
 
Does any of the list members know much about the Wisconsin 2 Cyl. 
engines like the Model TF ?

 
                  Best Regards
             
           Franklin S. Skinner 
      Marine Surveyor & Consultant 
3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 
       34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West 
PH 910-791-8870  Cell 910-612-7470





 		 	   		  

From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sat Sep 18 13:38:34 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:38:34 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Ruston & Hornsby 1ZHR at Barleylands
In-Reply-To: <209aa83eed03c147e3b18627fc883e0a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <AANLkTi=tS78raUqkhz6qG4CsKvgekMYFJoq3tGP0AF7r@mail.gmail.com>
	<209aa83eed03c147e3b18627fc883e0a.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin-6ONwgBfwuC+4rAvgCdvQs5CdMkgQQkE0EXbY@mail.gmail.com>

On 13 September 2010 19:19, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
> She's lookin' GOOD Peter!!

Thanks, Arnie:

Sorted the electrickery problem out, we had an insulation sleeve
rubbed through against an internal through-bolt, that took out the
generating side of things, and when we tried to start up again, we had
clouds of the magic smoke, as that cable was energised with 28V from
two 105AH batteries..... Nice juicy DC arc! No major damage and it was
up and running fairly quickly after we got back home.

We have also translated the Stationary Engine Forum Ruston rebuild
thread into a website series of pages, taking out the extraneous items
and comments along the way.

There is coverage of about 2 years work, with associated pictures that
cover everything we did up to July this year.

The new section is at the bottom of the existing Ruston 1ZHR menu:

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Ruston1ZHR/RustonMenu.htm

It is only on Stationary-Engine.co.uk at present, I will copy it over
to the mirror site at Oldengine.org later.

Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sun Sep 19 02:08:40 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 19:08:40 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally 2010
Message-ID: <C8BC1038.5B92%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

I have not had time for captions yet but the pictures are up at:
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc10/index.htm

It was a great weekend with lots of great engines and interesting people (or
visa versa).

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
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From walking_tractor at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 19 05:43:49 2010
From: walking_tractor at yahoo.com (David Myers)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:43:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Wisconsin Model TF
In-Reply-To: <COL106-W598ED4991F307D2A78B338B47C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <274920.71983.qm@web55901.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Frank,
What do you need?
I have a small stable of twins and might be able to help.
David


--- On Sat, 9/18/10, frank skinner <marinesurveys at msn.com> wrote:


From: frank skinner <marinesurveys at msn.com>
Subject: [SEL] Wisconsin Model TF
To: "AA_OLD ENGINE" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Cc: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Date: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 4:56 AM





Hi Folks;

Does any of the list members know much about the Wisconsin 2 Cyl. 
engines like the Model TF ?


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From listerdiesel at gmail.com  Sun Sep 19 12:18:44 2010
From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:18:44 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Guts or Balls
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=rMMhy1cDpDBaTCkWE2HaLz9awyy+j0FQ4gJ-G@mail.gmail.com>

Had this come in to my inbox tonight:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ever wondered about  | Guts or Balls...

There is a medical distinction.    We've all heard about people having
guts or balls, but do you really know the difference between them?
In an effort to keep you informed, the definitions are listed below:

                    GUTS - Is arriving home late after a night out
with the boys, being met by your wife with a broom,
                    and having the guts to ask: ''Are you still
cleaning, or are you flying somewhere?''

                    BALLS - Is coming home late after a night out with
the boys, smelling of perfume and beer,
                    lipstick on your collar, slapping your wife on the
arse and having the balls to say: ''You're next, fatty.''

                    I hope this clears up any confusion on the definitions.

                    Medically speaking, there is no difference in the
outcome, since both ultimately result in death.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Peter
-- 
Peter A Forbes
Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel
http://stationary-engine.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.co.uk


From dombros2 at clearmail.com.au  Sun Sep 19 13:20:24 2010
From: dombros2 at clearmail.com.au (Ted & Sue Domeney)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 06:20:24 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Sydney Rally 2010
Message-ID: <82D8BDFE83FC4870B6748B07FCD0E2FC@HOUSE>

Excellent Patrick, Thank you
Teddy

From old_iron at msn.com  Sun Sep 19 13:55:08 2010
From: old_iron at msn.com (William J Pfeiffer Sr)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:55:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinmGwEMn-OEwiOckS9DXZT5+UAoqDFQ46zXDOHq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2D6464D90F244C8097BCD3942C628A94@laruecounty.courthouse>,
	<DF1B8ACF-C5B0-4DA3-A3A6-B9914EBAA74E@herculesengines.com>,
	<000001cb5467$2ae31180$80a93480$@net>,
	<006BE621-AD32-44FB-895B-DE24AF395053@me.com>,
	<AANLkTinmGwEMn-OEwiOckS9DXZT5+UAoqDFQ46zXDOHq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU137-W10D60952EA637427CED137E77D0@phx.gbl>


Hear, Hear
 
Remember I vote in Cook County Illinois! This is more fun and it seems ALOT better than what we have ended up with in this state!
 
Peg Pfeiffer
 
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:52:00 -0700
> From: enginepaul at gmail.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] [AT] Stuffing the ballot box - help needed.
> 
> "Doesn't seem ethical to me."
> 
> It isn't ethical - it's voting.
> 
> Paul in California - where I may be voting for the next 100 years
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Mon Sep 20 04:33:41 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:33:41 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Some video from the Sydney Rally
Message-ID: <C8BD83B5.5BC8%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

A few short clips from our rally.
Olds 3hp 2AA Air Cooled gas engine 1908
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_7uCql8QI8

Root & VanDervoort engines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJbIq3ClWto

Blackstone Oil Engine 3hp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFU384f-NUk



Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Tue Sep 21 10:22:39 2010
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:22:39 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem
Message-ID: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>

I had a chance to perform a detailed inspection of the Cummins LI-600 diesel engines on our GE 80 ton locomotive. The front engine is stuck, most likely from water in one or more cylinders. One head is missing and the cylinder wall is a bit rusty so this may be the one that is stuck.

The rear engine does run, however the no. 2 connecting rod bearing disintegrated and apparently the engine was kept in service for a while longer probably until the knock became too much to listen to. The crankpin is now of course galled. I have not yet taken a mic to it to find out how much metal was lost. Actually only one liner was still somewhat intact, the other one was in the bottom of the pan in a million pieces.

I need to be able to move this locomotive under its own power to get it out of where it is at and into a new location for rebuilding, probably two miles total. So I am now thinking if there is a way that I can run the engine on five cylinders for long enough to get it where it needs to go.

Some of the issues with doing this would be whether it would be better to try to clean up the journal as much as possible, put in a new liner, disconnect the injector and engage the compression release on that cylinder, or to remove the connecting rod, tie the piston and rod out of the way and install a machined clamp that would provide some of the weight of the rod and seal off the oil hole.

Anyone ever have to do something like this on a diesel engine? Would such a temporary repair work?

For the uninitiated, the LI-600 is a six cylinder inline engine, generating 250 HP at 1000 RPM. 7" bore, 10" stroke. Crankpin is 4.25" dia. First produced in 1929, this engine was built in 1944. Parts are somewhat available. 

Rick Rowlands

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 21 11:49:00 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:49:00 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem
In-Reply-To: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
References: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
Message-ID: <ae2d5775046c163f7999fc45d21fc5e6.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Rick,

You do have the MOST interesting problems!!  8-))

On Tue, September 21, 2010 1:22 pm, Rick Rowlands wrote:

Plan B:
> Some of the issues with doing this would be whether it would be better to try to
> clean up the journal as much as possible, put in a new liner, disconnect the
> injector and engage the compression release on that cylinder,

Plan A:
> or to remove the
> connecting rod, tie the piston and rod out of the way and install a machined clamp
> that would provide some of the weight of the rod and seal off the oil hole.

If it was me with this problem and you didn't have access to anything that could
pull or push this loco two miles down the track; I think I'd do a modified Plan A. 
Pull the head and pull that piston & rod.  Then go for it.  Other wise, Plan B.

See ya,  Arnie

PS - It's only fair to remind you that I'm a professional nuclear engineer and I
have zero experience with big diesels.

PPS - OTOH, I did waive my normal consulting fee.  8-))



From rdhaskell at juno.com  Tue Sep 21 11:51:21 2010
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:51:21 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
Message-ID: <20100921.115152.965.9810@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>

Hi all.
Anyone on the list ever replaced the wood on an old tank for a spray rig?
 This one is about 4' long, 3' wide and 3' deep.  Round on the bottom and
held together with metal rods.  My question is about the long boards  on
the sides, the remaining boards are not tongue and groove they just butt
together and rely on the wood swelling up.  These boards have a slight
curve across their width, were them made that way or over the years of
being wet and clamped in place did they curve?
A lot of the original wood is there but saturated with arsenic and now
hazardous material and cannot be used.
Thanks for any suggestions.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 21 12:06:03 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:06:03 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <20100921.115152.965.9810@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100921.115152.965.9810@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <59aafdc8b360bd462c9cb8344e2daee6.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Ron,

I'll bet the curve that you observe is the result of a cooper's skill.
I think I'd look for a modern cooper and ask for a consultation.

See ya,  Arnie

On Tue, September 21, 2010 2:51 pm, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote:

> Anyone on the list ever replaced the wood on an old tank for a spray rig?
>  This one is about 4' long, 3' wide and 3' deep.  Round on the bottom and
> held together with metal rods.  My question is about the long boards  on
> the sides, the remaining boards are not tongue and groove they just butt
> together and rely on the wood swelling up.  These boards have a slight
> curve across their width, were them made that way or over the years of
> being wet and clamped in place did they curve?
> A lot of the original wood is there but saturated with arsenic and now
> hazardous material and cannot be used.




From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Tue Sep 21 13:05:03 2010
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:05:03 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <20100921.115152.965.9810@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100921.115152.965.9810@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <18CF3633-290E-44A6-AAC3-4D45735B9074@herculesengines.com>

Ron
Check out this link.  I'll bet it will be useful in your project.
Keith
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48397

On Sep 21, 2010, at 1:51 PM, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote:

> Hi all.
> Anyone on the list ever replaced the wood on an old tank for a spray rig?
> This one is about 4' long, 3' wide and 3' deep.  Round on the bottom and
> held together with metal rods.  My question is about the long boards  on
> the sides, the remaining boards are not tongue and groove they just butt
> together and rely on the wood swelling up.  These boards have a slight
> curve across their width, were them made that way or over the years of
> being wet and clamped in place did they curve?
> A lot of the original wood is there but saturated with arsenic and now
> hazardous material and cannot be used.
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> Ron Haskell
> rdhaskell at juno.com
> Riverside, California USA
> http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
> ____________________________________________________________
> Mortgage Rates Hit 3.25%
> If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Obama's Refi Program
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From rotigel at me.com  Tue Sep 21 16:21:25 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:21:25 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <20100921.115152.965.9810@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100921.115152.965.9810@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <57BF07BB-9830-4227-8300-88DD1595862F@me.com>

Hi Ron,
	What are you using the tank for? What's the problem with a little bit  
of arsenic? Like DDT arsenic was used for years and did a VERY good  
job of doing what it was intended to do. If, on the other hand you  
intend to use the tank for drinking water I can see the problem.

On Sep 21, 2010, at 11:51 AM, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote:

> Hi all.
> Anyone on the list ever replaced the wood on an old tank for a spray  
> rig?
> This one is about 4' long, 3' wide and 3' deep.  Round on the bottom  
> and
> held together with metal rods.  My question is about the long  
> boards  on
> the sides, the remaining boards are not tongue and groove they just  
> butt
> together and rely on the wood swelling up.  These boards have a slight
> curve across their width, were them made that way or over the years of
> being wet and clamped in place did they curve?
> A lot of the original wood is there but saturated with arsenic and now
> hazardous material and cannot be used.
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> Ron Haskell


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 21 13:43:31 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:43:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <18CF3633-290E-44A6-AAC3-4D45735B9074@herculesengines.com>
References: <20100921.115152.965.9810@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
	<18CF3633-290E-44A6-AAC3-4D45735B9074@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <0ead630fc0d066309783f48c65a757db.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Keith,

Thanks so much for that link!!  What an amazing project that was.  I'm really glad
that he took the time to keep reporting on each season's experience with that tank.

See ya,  Arnie

On Tue, September 21, 2010 4:05 pm, Keith Kinney wrote:
> Check out this link.  I'll bet it will be useful in your project.
> http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48397





From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 21 14:41:57 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:41:57 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
Message-ID: <b3b38f44bbde06148caa289455e28641.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Keith,

I hear ya.  I've always been keen on the orchard spray rigs.  A nice half-round
wooden tank on a cart with a Novo or Leader engine driving a nice triplex pump. 
Plus driving the mixer paddles inside the tank.  Then using the spray rig to
hose-down the good looking gals strolling by...  Well, you get the idea.  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

PS - I wonder if the folks at Coolspring or at the Drake Well Museum in Titusville
have any experience with refurbishing old wooden oil storage tanks or the tanks used
to transport the oil?

On Tue, September 21, 2010 4:46 pm, Keith Kinney wrote:
> You're welcome.  I was really impressed with the craftsmanship in that project.
> I'd like to build a couple of wooden cooling tanks to use on oil field engines.
> Some day.




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Sep 21 15:49:48 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:49:48 -0400
Subject: [SEL] WFITBHFP Sighting
Message-ID: <0483236250a92db2a8df8e577dd707db.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

If we do a Christmas Charity Auction (Spencer?) it might be fun to see how much they
bring.  8-))

On Tue, September 21, 2010 5:57 pm, Craig Mathews wrote:
> They go everywhere I go for the most part. I still have all the little trinkets,
> added a few badges from some shows. They continue to go to shows, and once in
> awhile they actually get used.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
>
> DAMN!!? They still live...
>
> On Tue, September 21, 2010 5:20 pm, Craig Mathews wrote:
>> WFITBHFP seen along a trail at Lower Echo Lake, CA 9/11/2010




From mr at carolina.rr.com  Tue Sep 21 16:16:34 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:16:34 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem
References: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
	<ae2d5775046c163f7999fc45d21fc5e6.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <004801cb59e3$08d18c30$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

I know a pulpwood logger that did this with a 6 cylinder GMC.  And he went 
for a while before he repaired it!  Just missing a piston.

MR
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem


> Hi Rick,
>
> You do have the MOST interesting problems!!  8-))
>
> On Tue, September 21, 2010 1:22 pm, Rick Rowlands wrote:
>
> Plan B:
>> Some of the issues with doing this would be whether it would be better to 
>> try to
>> clean up the journal as much as possible, put in a new liner, disconnect 
>> the
>> injector and engage the compression release on that cylinder,
>
> Plan A:
>> or to remove the
>> connecting rod, tie the piston and rod out of the way and install a 
>> machined clamp
>> that would provide some of the weight of the rod and seal off the oil 
>> hole.
>
> If it was me with this problem and you didn't have access to anything that 
> could
> pull or push this loco two miles down the track; I think I'd do a modified 
> Plan A.
> Pull the head and pull that piston & rod.  Then go for it.  Other wise, 
> Plan B.
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> PS - It's only fair to remind you that I'm a professional nuclear engineer 
> and I
> have zero experience with big diesels.
>
> PPS - OTOH, I did waive my normal consulting fee.  8-))
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From james.kangas at timken.com  Tue Sep 21 17:38:19 2010
From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:38:19 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question
References: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
Message-ID: <BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CE@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>

Is this Locomotive some type of "Switcher"?I've never heard of a Loco with that small an engine.The 80 tons is what's puzzling me.Seems heavy for a Switching Engine.
 Jim K

________________________________

From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Rick Rowlands
Sent: Tue 9/21/2010 1:22 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem



I had a chance to perform a detailed inspection of the Cummins LI-600 diesel engines on our GE 80 ton locomotive. The front engine is stuck, most likely from water in one or more cylinders. One head is missing and the cylinder wall is a bit rusty so this may be the one that is stuck.

The rear engine does run, however the no. 2 connecting rod bearing disintegrated and apparently the engine was kept in service for a while longer probably until the knock became too much to listen to. The crankpin is now of course galled. I have not yet taken a mic to it to find out how much metal was lost. Actually only one liner was still somewhat intact, the other one was in the bottom of the pan in a million pieces.

I need to be able to move this locomotive under its own power to get it out of where it is at and into a new location for rebuilding, probably two miles total. So I am now thinking if there is a way that I can run the engine on five cylinders for long enough to get it where it needs to go.

Some of the issues with doing this would be whether it would be better to try to clean up the journal as much as possible, put in a new liner, disconnect the injector and engage the compression release on that cylinder, or to remove the connecting rod, tie the piston and rod out of the way and install a machined clamp that would provide some of the weight of the rod and seal off the oil hole.

Anyone ever have to do something like this on a diesel engine? Would such a temporary repair work?

For the uninitiated, the LI-600 is a six cylinder inline engine, generating 250 HP at 1000 RPM. 7" bore, 10" stroke. Crankpin is 4.25" dia. First produced in 1929, this engine was built in 1944. Parts are somewhat available.

Rick Rowlands
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From rdhaskell at juno.com  Tue Sep 21 18:07:18 2010
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:07:18 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
Message-ID: <20100921.180816.1000.382749@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>

Hi again Dave.
This is a spray rig at Cal Poly Pomona.  Originally used by Kellogg
himself.  Our club (WAPA) is volunteering to restore the rig with Novo
engine and triplex pump to working condition.  It will probably be pulled
around behind an old tractor spraying water, during special events.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell


On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:21:25 -0700 David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> writes:
> Hi Ron,
>         What are you using the tank for? What's the problem with a 
> little bit  
> of arsenic? Like DDT arsenic was used for years and did a VERY good  
> 
> job of doing what it was intended to do. If, on the other hand you  
> 
> intend to use the tank for drinking water I can see the problem.
> 
> On Sep 21, 2010, at 11:51 AM, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote:
> 
> > Hi all.
> > Anyone on the list ever replaced the wood on an old tank for a 
> spray  
> > rig?
> > This one is about 4' long, 3' wide and 3' deep.  Round on the 
> bottom  
> > and
> > held together with metal rods.  My question is about the long  
> > boards  on
> > the sides, the remaining boards are not tongue and groove they 
> just  
> > butt
> > together and rely on the wood swelling up.  These boards have a 
> slight
> > curve across their width, were them made that way or over the 
> years of
> > being wet and clamped in place did they curve?
> > A lot of the original wood is there but saturated with arsenic and 
> now
> > hazardous material and cannot be used.
> > Thanks for any suggestions.
> >
> > Ron Haskell
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
 
 
Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
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From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Tue Sep 21 18:57:36 2010
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:57:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question
References: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
	<BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CE@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>
Message-ID: <02b201cb59f9$87dbd150$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>

Yes it is a switcher.  GE built switchers from 25 ton version powered with 
one Cummins truck engine up to 44, 45, 65, 80 and 110 ton versions powered 
by two engines.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kangas, James G." <james.kangas at timken.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question


Is this Locomotive some type of "Switcher"?I've never heard of a Loco with 
that small an engine.The 80 tons is what's puzzling me.Seems heavy for a 
Switching Engine.
 Jim K

________________________________

From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Rick Rowlands
Sent: Tue 9/21/2010 1:22 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem



I had a chance to perform a detailed inspection of the Cummins LI-600 diesel 
engines on our GE 80 ton locomotive. The front engine is stuck, most likely 
from water in one or more cylinders. One head is missing and the cylinder 
wall is a bit rusty so this may be the one that is stuck.

The rear engine does run, however the no. 2 connecting rod bearing 
disintegrated and apparently the engine was kept in service for a while 
longer probably until the knock became too much to listen to. The crankpin 
is now of course galled. I have not yet taken a mic to it to find out how 
much metal was lost. Actually only one liner was still somewhat intact, the 
other one was in the bottom of the pan in a million pieces.

I need to be able to move this locomotive under its own power to get it out 
of where it is at and into a new location for rebuilding, probably two miles 
total. So I am now thinking if there is a way that I can run the engine on 
five cylinders for long enough to get it where it needs to go.

Some of the issues with doing this would be whether it would be better to 
try to clean up the journal as much as possible, put in a new liner, 
disconnect the injector and engage the compression release on that cylinder, 
or to remove the connecting rod, tie the piston and rod out of the way and 
install a machined clamp that would provide some of the weight of the rod 
and seal off the oil hole.

Anyone ever have to do something like this on a diesel engine? Would such a 
temporary repair work?

For the uninitiated, the LI-600 is a six cylinder inline engine, generating 
250 HP at 1000 RPM. 7" bore, 10" stroke. Crankpin is 4.25" dia. First 
produced in 1929, this engine was built in 1944. Parts are somewhat 
available.

Rick Rowlands
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From jd.kirkes at verizon.net  Tue Sep 21 19:14:37 2010
From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:14:37 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question
References: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
	<BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CE@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>
	<02b201cb59f9$87dbd150$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
Message-ID: <515652C7983143E7B86EC452715C5F05@Desktop>

The ALCO SW-1 which was a 600 Hp switcher weighed 100 tons. 
The GE was a rather small switcher.

Jim

Jim and Diane Kirkes
jd.kirkes at verizon.net
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Rowlands" <rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" 
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question


Yes it is a switcher.  GE built switchers from 25 ton 
version powered with
one Cummins truck engine up to 44, 45, 65, 80 and 110 ton 
versions powered
by two engines.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kangas, James G." <james.kangas at timken.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" 
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question


Is this Locomotive some type of "Switcher"?I've never heard 
of a Loco with
that small an engine.The 80 tons is what's puzzling me.Seems 
heavy for a
Switching Engine.
 Jim K

________________________________

From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of 
Rick Rowlands
Sent: Tue 9/21/2010 1:22 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem



I had a chance to perform a detailed inspection of the 
Cummins LI-600 diesel
engines on our GE 80 ton locomotive. The front engine is 
stuck, most likely
from water in one or more cylinders. One head is missing and 
the cylinder
wall is a bit rusty so this may be the one that is stuck.

The rear engine does run, however the no. 2 connecting rod 
bearing
disintegrated and apparently the engine was kept in service 
for a while
longer probably until the knock became too much to listen 
to. The crankpin
is now of course galled. I have not yet taken a mic to it to 
find out how
much metal was lost. Actually only one liner was still 
somewhat intact, the
other one was in the bottom of the pan in a million pieces.

I need to be able to move this locomotive under its own 
power to get it out
of where it is at and into a new location for rebuilding, 
probably two miles
total. So I am now thinking if there is a way that I can run 
the engine on
five cylinders for long enough to get it where it needs to 
go.

Some of the issues with doing this would be whether it would 
be better to
try to clean up the journal as much as possible, put in a 
new liner,
disconnect the injector and engage the compression release 
on that cylinder,
or to remove the connecting rod, tie the piston and rod out 
of the way and
install a machined clamp that would provide some of the 
weight of the rod
and seal off the oil hole.

Anyone ever have to do something like this on a diesel 
engine? Would such a
temporary repair work?

For the uninitiated, the LI-600 is a six cylinder inline 
engine, generating
250 HP at 1000 RPM. 7" bore, 10" stroke. Crankpin is 4.25" 
dia. First
produced in 1929, this engine was built in 1944. Parts are 
somewhat
available.

Rick Rowlands
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From james.kangas at timken.com  Tue Sep 21 19:44:09 2010
From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:44:09 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question
References: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174><BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CE@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>
	<02b201cb59f9$87dbd150$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
Message-ID: <BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CF@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>

Thank you for your reply Rick,
I didn't realize they made switchers as big as 80 and 110 ton, especially with such small engines. As to your original problem, is there a short line or independent rail operator in your area that could be convinced to send one of their engines over to push or pull yours the two miles.
  Jim K

________________________________

From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Rick Rowlands
Sent: Tue 9/21/2010 9:57 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question



Yes it is a switcher.  GE built switchers from 25 ton version powered with
one Cummins truck engine up to 44, 45, 65, 80 and 110 ton versions powered
by two engines.

Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kangas, James G." <james.kangas at timken.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question


Is this Locomotive some type of "Switcher"?I've never heard of a Loco with
that small an engine.The 80 tons is what's puzzling me.Seems heavy for a
Switching Engine.
 Jim K

________________________________

From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Rick Rowlands
Sent: Tue 9/21/2010 1:22 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem



I had a chance to perform a detailed inspection of the Cummins LI-600 diesel
engines on our GE 80 ton locomotive. The front engine is stuck, most likely
from water in one or more cylinders. One head is missing and the cylinder
wall is a bit rusty so this may be the one that is stuck.

The rear engine does run, however the no. 2 connecting rod bearing
disintegrated and apparently the engine was kept in service for a while
longer probably until the knock became too much to listen to. The crankpin
is now of course galled. I have not yet taken a mic to it to find out how
much metal was lost. Actually only one liner was still somewhat intact, the
other one was in the bottom of the pan in a million pieces.

I need to be able to move this locomotive under its own power to get it out
of where it is at and into a new location for rebuilding, probably two miles
total. So I am now thinking if there is a way that I can run the engine on
five cylinders for long enough to get it where it needs to go.

Some of the issues with doing this would be whether it would be better to
try to clean up the journal as much as possible, put in a new liner,
disconnect the injector and engage the compression release on that cylinder,
or to remove the connecting rod, tie the piston and rod out of the way and
install a machined clamp that would provide some of the weight of the rod
and seal off the oil hole.

Anyone ever have to do something like this on a diesel engine? Would such a
temporary repair work?

For the uninitiated, the LI-600 is a six cylinder inline engine, generating
250 HP at 1000 RPM. 7" bore, 10" stroke. Crankpin is 4.25" dia. First
produced in 1929, this engine was built in 1944. Parts are somewhat
available.

Rick Rowlands
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From kkinney at herculesengines.com  Tue Sep 21 20:39:23 2010
From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:39:23 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <b3b38f44bbde06148caa289455e28641.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <b3b38f44bbde06148caa289455e28641.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <698DC190-F54A-405E-8703-1C566424FDBE@herculesengines.com>

Here's what you need Arnie:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220670614072#ht_645wt_1139
Keith





On Sep 21, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:

> Keith,
> 
> I hear ya.  I've always been keen on the orchard spray rigs.  A nice half-round
> wooden tank on a cart with a Novo or Leader engine driving a nice triplex pump. 
> Plus driving the mixer paddles inside the tank.  Then using the spray rig to
> hose-down the good looking gals strolling by...  Well, you get the idea.  8-))
> 
> See ya,  Arnie
> 
> PS - I wonder if the folks at Coolspring or at the Drake Well Museum in Titusville
> have any experience with refurbishing old wooden oil storage tanks or the tanks used
> to transport the oil?
> 
> On Tue, September 21, 2010 4:46 pm, Keith Kinney wrote:
>> You're welcome.  I was really impressed with the craftsmanship in that project.
>> I'd like to build a couple of wooden cooling tanks to use on oil field engines.
>> Some day.
> 
> 
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From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Tue Sep 21 20:42:51 2010
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:42:51 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question
References: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174><BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CE@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com><02b201cb59f9$87dbd150$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
	<BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CF@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>
Message-ID: <02e501cb5a08$3bafdb50$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>

Thats not the issue, since it has to be moved about a mile to a loading site 
where it is placed on a flatcar, and then when it is unloaded at its new 
location has to move to its storage track under its own power.

I think that polishing the journal with emery and crocus cloth, putting it 
back together and running it at low speed I may be ok.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kangas, James G." <james.kangas at timken.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question


Thank you for your reply Rick,
I didn't realize they made switchers as big as 80 and 110 ton, especially 
with such small engines. As to your original problem, is there a short line 
or independent rail operator in your area that could be convinced to send 
one of their engines over to push or pull yours the two miles.
  Jim K

________________________________

From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Rick Rowlands
Sent: Tue 9/21/2010 9:57 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question



Yes it is a switcher.  GE built switchers from 25 ton version powered with
one Cummins truck engine up to 44, 45, 65, 80 and 110 ton versions powered
by two engines.

Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kangas, James G." <james.kangas at timken.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question


Is this Locomotive some type of "Switcher"?I've never heard of a Loco with
that small an engine.The 80 tons is what's puzzling me.Seems heavy for a
Switching Engine.
 Jim K

________________________________

From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Rick Rowlands
Sent: Tue 9/21/2010 1:22 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem



I had a chance to perform a detailed inspection of the Cummins LI-600 diesel
engines on our GE 80 ton locomotive. The front engine is stuck, most likely
from water in one or more cylinders. One head is missing and the cylinder
wall is a bit rusty so this may be the one that is stuck.

The rear engine does run, however the no. 2 connecting rod bearing
disintegrated and apparently the engine was kept in service for a while
longer probably until the knock became too much to listen to. The crankpin
is now of course galled. I have not yet taken a mic to it to find out how
much metal was lost. Actually only one liner was still somewhat intact, the
other one was in the bottom of the pan in a million pieces.

I need to be able to move this locomotive under its own power to get it out
of where it is at and into a new location for rebuilding, probably two miles
total. So I am now thinking if there is a way that I can run the engine on
five cylinders for long enough to get it where it needs to go.

Some of the issues with doing this would be whether it would be better to
try to clean up the journal as much as possible, put in a new liner,
disconnect the injector and engage the compression release on that cylinder,
or to remove the connecting rod, tie the piston and rod out of the way and
install a machined clamp that would provide some of the weight of the rod
and seal off the oil hole.

Anyone ever have to do something like this on a diesel engine? Would such a
temporary repair work?

For the uninitiated, the LI-600 is a six cylinder inline engine, generating
250 HP at 1000 RPM. 7" bore, 10" stroke. Crankpin is 4.25" dia. First
produced in 1929, this engine was built in 1944. Parts are somewhat
available.

Rick Rowlands
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From rob at rustyiron.com  Tue Sep 21 20:48:18 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:48:18 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <20100921.180816.1000.382749@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100921.180816.1000.382749@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <765333CC-6534-48B6-8101-AA129C2E3E09@rustyiron.com>


On Sep 21, 2010, at 6:07 PM, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote:

> Hi again Dave.
> This is a spray rig at Cal Poly Pomona.  Originally used by Kellogg
> himself.  Our club (WAPA) is volunteering to restore the rig with Novo
> engine and triplex pump to working condition.  It will probably be  
> pulled
> around behind an old tractor spraying water, during special events.


Just an idea, Ron... if the tank is in good shape, you could take a  
sample from the interior and drop it off at the chem lab for  
analysis.  It would probably make those students feel all warm and  
fuzzy to do something of immediate consequence.






From jdohagan at comcast.net  Tue Sep 21 21:18:34 2010
From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:18:34 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question
In-Reply-To: <02e501cb5a08$3bafdb50$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
References: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174><BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CE@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com><02b201cb59f9$87dbd150$0201a8c0@PC179134136174><BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CF@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>
	<02e501cb5a08$3bafdb50$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
Message-ID: <E40BE293DA5A41B3B90889C451FB0CF7@VALUED3253602F>

Hi Rick, I'm not Familiar with this type of engine, but is there room enough
to swing a portable crank-grinder under it  Cya, Jimmy 

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick Rowlands
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:43 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question

Thats not the issue, since it has to be moved about a mile to a loading site

where it is placed on a flatcar, and then when it is unloaded at its new 
location has to move to its storage track under its own power.

I think that polishing the journal with emery and crocus cloth, putting it 
back together and running it at low speed I may be ok.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kangas, James G." <james.kangas at timken.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question


Thank you for your reply Rick,
I didn't realize they made switchers as big as 80 and 110 ton, especially 
with such small engines. As to your original problem, is there a short line 
or independent rail operator in your area that could be convinced to send 
one of their engines over to push or pull yours the two miles.
  Jim K

________________________________

From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Rick Rowlands
Sent: Tue 9/21/2010 9:57 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question



Yes it is a switcher.  GE built switchers from 25 ton version powered with
one Cummins truck engine up to 44, 45, 65, 80 and 110 ton versions powered
by two engines.

Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kangas, James G." <james.kangas at timken.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question


Is this Locomotive some type of "Switcher"?I've never heard of a Loco with
that small an engine.The 80 tons is what's puzzling me.Seems heavy for a
Switching Engine.
 Jim K

________________________________

From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Rick Rowlands
Sent: Tue 9/21/2010 1:22 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem



I had a chance to perform a detailed inspection of the Cummins LI-600 diesel
engines on our GE 80 ton locomotive. The front engine is stuck, most likely
from water in one or more cylinders. One head is missing and the cylinder
wall is a bit rusty so this may be the one that is stuck.

The rear engine does run, however the no. 2 connecting rod bearing
disintegrated and apparently the engine was kept in service for a while
longer probably until the knock became too much to listen to. The crankpin
is now of course galled. I have not yet taken a mic to it to find out how
much metal was lost. Actually only one liner was still somewhat intact, the
other one was in the bottom of the pan in a million pieces.

I need to be able to move this locomotive under its own power to get it out
of where it is at and into a new location for rebuilding, probably two miles
total. So I am now thinking if there is a way that I can run the engine on
five cylinders for long enough to get it where it needs to go.

Some of the issues with doing this would be whether it would be better to
try to clean up the journal as much as possible, put in a new liner,
disconnect the injector and engage the compression release on that cylinder,
or to remove the connecting rod, tie the piston and rod out of the way and
install a machined clamp that would provide some of the weight of the rod
and seal off the oil hole.

Anyone ever have to do something like this on a diesel engine? Would such a
temporary repair work?

For the uninitiated, the LI-600 is a six cylinder inline engine, generating
250 HP at 1000 RPM. 7" bore, 10" stroke. Crankpin is 4.25" dia. First
produced in 1929, this engine was built in 1944. Parts are somewhat
available.

Rick Rowlands
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 22 07:58:30 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:58:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <698DC190-F54A-405E-8703-1C566424FDBE@herculesengines.com>
References: <b3b38f44bbde06148caa289455e28641.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<698DC190-F54A-405E-8703-1C566424FDBE@herculesengines.com>
Message-ID: <9a9842f9d933acf7d420fff489a1c11b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

That sure is a cutie allright.  No time and no space...
Someone should scarf it up though.

On Tue, September 21, 2010 11:39 pm, Keith Kinney wrote:
> Here's what you need Arnie:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220670614072#ht_645wt_1139





From oldironnut at windstream.net  Wed Sep 22 09:09:08 2010
From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:09:08 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <9a9842f9d933acf7d420fff489a1c11b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <b3b38f44bbde06148caa289455e28641.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<698DC190-F54A-405E-8703-1C566424FDBE@herculesengines.com>
	<9a9842f9d933acf7d420fff489a1c11b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <A75FD7E8-7E88-4427-B010-E41E7EFED85F@windstream.net>

Oh those are lame assed excuses! You told us what you would like to have and Keith pointed you to a great example of one that's at a pretty good price and is pretty close to you. Your reply is no time or space!!! You're going on a 7 day weekend at some point right and the Roysters have perfected and shown us all the instant white tarp storage shed so you just need to pony up the cash and go get that little cutie!

See ya',
Mike 

On Sep 22, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:

> That sure is a cutie allright.  No time and no space...
> Someone should scarf it up though.
> 
> On Tue, September 21, 2010 11:39 pm, Keith Kinney wrote:
>> Here's what you need Arnie:
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220670614072#ht_645wt_1139
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

______________________
Michael Tucker
oldironnut at windstream.net
Versailles, Kentucky, USA
______________________






From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 22 10:03:36 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:03:36 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <A75FD7E8-7E88-4427-B010-E41E7EFED85F@windstream.net>
References: <b3b38f44bbde06148caa289455e28641.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<698DC190-F54A-405E-8703-1C566424FDBE@herculesengines.com>
	<9a9842f9d933acf7d420fff489a1c11b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<A75FD7E8-7E88-4427-B010-E41E7EFED85F@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <1d3803df5597dddd0037e50bfcb67afc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

GREAT pep talk Mike!!  Thanks.  Truly, I have too many "projects" in the shed now. 
What I need to do is to sell off some of the projects that I know in my heart that
I'll never finish and not take on another project that I know I'll not get finished.
Far better that the spray rig goes to some eager beaver who will restore it and take
it to Portland where I can enjoy it.  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

PS - It's still out there with just the one bid on it...

On Wed, September 22, 2010 12:09 pm, Michael Tucker wrote:
> Oh those are lame assed excuses! You told us what you would like to have and Keith
> pointed you to a great example of one that's at a pretty good price and is pretty
> close to you. Your reply is no time or space!!! You're going on a 7 day weekend at
> some point right and the Roysters have perfected and shown us all the instant white
> tarp storage shed so you just need to pony up the cash and go get that little cutie!
>
> On Sep 22, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220670614072




From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 22 11:19:39 2010
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:19:39 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <90bfccd2a349b774321f662dee587769.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za><42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>,
	<ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	<0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>,
	<90bfccd2a349b774321f662dee587769.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <COL112-W470EE426F3B526CFEBADB695600@phx.gbl>


Hi All, Just got back from my daily trip to Harbor Freight.   I had to pick up a new wench today!    Sorry Reg has gone home already, He would have enjoyed this trip!      Sure is getting expensive, but what a nice display they have there!    Their marketing staff is geally good! I've never wanted to shop so much in my life!   Steve

 
> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:13:04 -0400
> From: fero_ah at city-net.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
> 
> G'day Marg,
> 
> No worries m'lady, got the keyboard & monitor sorted. And I think you're on EXACTLY
> the right track shopping the local jewelry stores for a suitable Christmas bauble to
> help clear your mind of the HORROR of being awakened each night by Reg (the
> barbarian) yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!
> 
> And you are SOOOO perceptive at recognizing straight away that the evil Cloistered
> Oyster Steve was at the root of this evil. He is a baddun'!!
> 
> See ya, Arnie
> 
> On Fri, September 17, 2010 7:14 pm, Reg Ingold wrote:
> > Sorry about your keyboard Arnie, hopefully it will dry out. Problem
> > solved, our lovely friend Jerry in Joburg explained it all to me!! It also
> > broke his nightmares too!! I think Steve Royster is at the bottom of all
> > this, he is very quiet just now!! Maybe away somewhere?
> > Anyway, Jerry,s explanation is fine by me.
> > Marg x
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From Germoamer at aol.com  Wed Sep 22 11:33:40 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:33:40 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
Message-ID: <cd000.25da5dc6.39cba604@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 9/22/2010 2:26:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
steve_royster at hotmail.com writes:

Just got  back from my daily trip to Harbor Freight.


Steve,
 
Did you get your free flashlight too?  Got 3 more coupons to  use.  I think 
I have a dozen now and great to have in  cars/shops/etc.  I like free!  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From oldironnut at windstream.net  Wed Sep 22 11:34:51 2010
From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:34:51 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <COL112-W470EE426F3B526CFEBADB695600@phx.gbl>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za><42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>,
	<ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	<0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>,
	<90bfccd2a349b774321f662dee587769.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<COL112-W470EE426F3B526CFEBADB695600@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <019F0CBD-B853-4F6E-8B55-472193374CBC@windstream.net>


On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Steve Royster wrote:

> Hi All, Just got back from my daily trip to Harbor Freight.   I had to pick up a new wench today!    Sorry Reg has gone home already, He would have enjoyed this trip!      Sure is getting expensive, but what a nice display they have there!    Their marketing staff is geally good! I've never wanted to shop so much in my life!   Steve


I think we need a picture of the marketing staff's "display!"
______________________
Michael Tucker
oldironnut at windstream.net
Versailles, Kentucky, USA
______________________






From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 22 11:46:38 2010
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:46:38 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <cd000.25da5dc6.39cba604@aol.com>
References: <cd000.25da5dc6.39cba604@aol.com>
Message-ID: <COL112-W20ADE30B0F1104434B12195600@phx.gbl>


Yes, I have dozens of them as well,  When I see those high beam headlamps as I enter the store, free flashlighs are not in my thoughts!  Steve
 
> From: Germoamer at aol.com
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:33:40 -0400
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
> 
> 
> In a message dated 9/22/2010 2:26:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> steve_royster at hotmail.com writes:
> 
> Just got back from my daily trip to Harbor Freight.
> 
> 
> Steve,
> 
> Did you get your free flashlight too? Got 3 more coupons to use. I think 
> I have a dozen now and great to have in cars/shops/etc. I like free! 
> 
> Tom Schmutz
> Concord, Va.
> germoamer at AOL.com
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 22 11:47:30 2010
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:47:30 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <019F0CBD-B853-4F6E-8B55-472193374CBC@windstream.net>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za><42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>,
	, <ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	, <0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>, ,
	<90bfccd2a349b774321f662dee587769.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	<COL112-W470EE426F3B526CFEBADB695600@phx.gbl>,
	<019F0CBD-B853-4F6E-8B55-472193374CBC@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <COL112-W23B007D06205B0BD83710395600@phx.gbl>


Mike, I don't think I can hold the camera steady long enough for the exposure!  Steve
 
> From: oldironnut at windstream.net
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:34:51 -0400
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
> 
> 
> On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Steve Royster wrote:
> 
> > Hi All, Just got back from my daily trip to Harbor Freight. I had to pick up a new wench today! Sorry Reg has gone home already, He would have enjoyed this trip! Sure is getting expensive, but what a nice display they have there! Their marketing staff is geally good! I've never wanted to shop so much in my life! Steve
> 
> 
> I think we need a picture of the marketing staff's "display!"
> ______________________
> Michael Tucker
> oldironnut at windstream.net
> Versailles, Kentucky, USA
> ______________________
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 22 11:58:21 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:58:21 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
In-Reply-To: <COL112-W470EE426F3B526CFEBADB695600@phx.gbl>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za><42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>,
	<ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	<0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>,
	<90bfccd2a349b774321f662dee587769.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<COL112-W470EE426F3B526CFEBADB695600@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6485378c245ca58bf4033e1290110cb6.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Steve,

If you need a new winch (in addition to the obvious well-endowed Harbor Freight
wench), be sure to talk to Keith to see how to get a free winch for life.

See ya,  Arnie

On Wed, September 22, 2010 2:19 pm, Steve Royster wrote:
>
> Hi All, Just got back from my daily trip to Harbor Freight.
> I had to pick up a new wench today!
> Sorry Reg has gone home already, He would have enjoyed this trip!
> Sure is getting expensive, but what a nice display they have there!    Their
> marketing staff is geally good! I've never wanted to shop so much in my life!
> Steve
>
>> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:13:04 -0400
>> help clear your mind of the HORROR of being awakened each night by Reg (the
>> barbarian) yelling "Harbour freight tits"!!!!





From rdhaskell at juno.com  Wed Sep 22 12:19:05 2010
From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:19:05 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
Message-ID: <20100922.121923.22947.303786@mailpop04.vgs.untd.com>

Thanks to everyone on both lists for their good suggestions, and links.
Next question of the day.  Where can I get a replacement drain hose for
my Maytag washer?  It is the square aluminum tub with water pump.  I have
replaced another on an earlier washer without the pump.  Got a very heavy
hose from Hose Man, it fit but was too stiff and is difficult to keep in
the fittings.  Would like to find a real replacement, remember seeing one
on Ebay years ago but didn't need it then.  Thanks.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
____________________________________________________________
Mortgage Rates Hit 3.25%
If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Obama's Refi Program
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c9a56d4366a42e42fst05vuc


From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk  Wed Sep 22 13:30:52 2010
From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:30:52 +0100
Subject: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za><42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>,
	, <ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	, <0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>, ,
	<90bfccd2a349b774321f662dee587769.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	<COL112-W470EE426F3B526CFEBADB695600@phx.gbl>,
	<019F0CBD-B853-4F6E-8B55-472193374CBC@windstream.net>
	<COL112-W23B007D06205B0BD83710395600@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <7A52ECD5A0CF458BAE810D3B17350562@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>

Steve ,

You sure could try and if it doesn't work first time keep on trying.

Craig
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Royster" <steve_royster at hotmail.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?


>
> Mike, I don't think I can hold the camera steady long enough for the 
> exposure!  Steve
>
>> From: oldironnut at windstream.net
>> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:34:51 -0400
>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Where is that Aussie ?
>>
>>
>> On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Steve Royster wrote:
>>
>> > Hi All, Just got back from my daily trip to Harbor Freight. I had to 
>> > pick up a new wench today! Sorry Reg has gone home already, He would 
>> > have enjoyed this trip! Sure is getting expensive, but what a nice 
>> > display they have there! Their marketing staff is geally good! I've 
>> > never wanted to shop so much in my life! Steve
>>
>>
>> I think we need a picture of the marketing staff's "display!"
>> ______________________
>> Michael Tucker
>> oldironnut at windstream.net
>> Versailles, Kentucky, USA
>> ______________________
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Wed Sep 22 15:02:15 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:02:15 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
References: <b3b38f44bbde06148caa289455e28641.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><698DC190-F54A-405E-8703-1C566424FDBE@herculesengines.com><9a9842f9d933acf7d420fff489a1c11b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<A75FD7E8-7E88-4427-B010-E41E7EFED85F@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <007601cb5aa1$d1974f60$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Oh don't worry about no empty space, you'll have plenty when you get back 
from Coolspring!!!   It seems Steve and I can't go this year, and he's 
banned in Kentucky,  so we were thinking about taking the empty trailer on a 
road trip........

MR (the good) Royster

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Tucker" <oldironnut at windstream.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.


> Oh those are lame assed excuses! You told us what you would like to have 
> and Keith pointed you to a great example of one that's at a pretty good 
> price and is pretty close to you. Your reply is no time or space!!! You're 
> going on a 7 day weekend at some point right and the Roysters have 
> perfected and shown us all the instant white tarp storage shed so you just 
> need to pony up the cash and go get that little cutie!
>
> See ya',
> Mike
>
> On Sep 22, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>
>> That sure is a cutie allright.  No time and no space...
>> Someone should scarf it up though.
>>
>> On Tue, September 21, 2010 11:39 pm, Keith Kinney wrote:
>>> Here's what you need Arnie:
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220670614072#ht_645wt_1139
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> ______________________
> Michael Tucker
> oldironnut at windstream.net
> Versailles, Kentucky, USA
> ______________________
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From swilliams268 at frontier.com  Wed Sep 22 18:25:42 2010
From: swilliams268 at frontier.com (Steve W.)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:25:42 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Cummins Engine Problem and a question
In-Reply-To: <BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CF@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>
References: <021b01cb59b1$9785c180$0201a8c0@PC179134136174><BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CE@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>	<02b201cb59f9$87dbd150$0201a8c0@PC179134136174>
	<BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A6879049C82CF@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>
Message-ID: <4C9AAC96.7010305@frontier.com>

> I had a chance to perform a detailed inspection of the Cummins LI-600 diesel
> engines on our GE 80 ton locomotive. The front engine is stuck, most likely
> from water in one or more cylinders. One head is missing and the cylinder
> wall is a bit rusty so this may be the one that is stuck.

Sort of points that way.

You should be able to find a sleeve that would fit it. Piston will
likely be the hard part to find.

http://www.westcoastdiesel.com/ might have something around

> 
> The rear engine does run, however the no. 2 connecting rod bearing
> disintegrated and apparently the engine was kept in service for a while
> longer probably until the knock became too much to listen to. The crankpin
> is now of course galled. I have not yet taken a mic to it to find out how
> much metal was lost. Actually only one liner was still somewhat intact, the
> other one was in the bottom of the pan in a million pieces.
> 
> I need to be able to move this locomotive under its own power to get it out
> of where it is at and into a new location for rebuilding, probably two miles
> total. So I am now thinking if there is a way that I can run the engine on
> five cylinders for long enough to get it where it needs to go.
> 
> Some of the issues with doing this would be whether it would be better to
> try to clean up the journal as much as possible, put in a new liner,
> disconnect the injector and engage the compression release on that cylinder,
> or to remove the connecting rod, tie the piston and rod out of the way and
> install a machined clamp that would provide some of the weight of the rod
> and seal off the oil hole.
> 
> Anyone ever have to do something like this on a diesel engine? Would such a
> temporary repair work?

Easy way would be to disable the injector to that cylinder. Then pull
the rod up out of the way with a simple strap. Should run well enough to
move that far. To keep the oil hole closed the easiest way would be a
simple clamp like a muffler clamp with a chunk of strap over the oil
hole. Run it just above idle and it should be fine.

Done similar things with engines out in the field and rigged it enough
to get it loaded or back to the shop.

> 
> For the uninitiated, the LI-600 is a six cylinder inline engine, generating
> 250 HP at 1000 RPM. 7" bore, 10" stroke. Crankpin is 4.25" dia. First
> produced in 1929, this engine was built in 1944. Parts are somewhat
> available.
> 
> Rick Rowlands
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

-- 
Captain Steven Williams
Van Hornesville Fire Dept.


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 22 19:17:29 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:17:29 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <007601cb5aa1$d1974f60$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <b3b38f44bbde06148caa289455e28641.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><698DC190-F54A-405E-8703-1C566424FDBE@herculesengines.com><9a9842f9d933acf7d420fff489a1c11b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<A75FD7E8-7E88-4427-B010-E41E7EFED85F@windstream.net>
	<007601cb5aa1$d1974f60$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <6a0f4d3d8f66f92d99840d0da52c387f.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Don't pay ANY attention to those "Radioactive Material" signs.
It's just a rumor that I have a side business storing radioactive waste.
heh-heh-heh

PS - Leave that Geiger counter at home!

On Wed, September 22, 2010 6:02 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> Oh don't worry about no empty space, you'll have plenty when you get back
> from Coolspring!!!   It seems Steve and I can't go this year, and he's
> banned in Kentucky,  so we were thinking about taking the empty trailer on a
> road trip........
>
> MR (the good) Royster





From mr at carolina.rr.com  Wed Sep 22 19:38:54 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:38:54 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
References: <b3b38f44bbde06148caa289455e28641.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><698DC190-F54A-405E-8703-1C566424FDBE@herculesengines.com><9a9842f9d933acf7d420fff489a1c11b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><A75FD7E8-7E88-4427-B010-E41E7EFED85F@windstream.net><007601cb5aa1$d1974f60$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
	<6a0f4d3d8f66f92d99840d0da52c387f.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <001201cb5ac8$7758f9f0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Don't you worry none, we cain't read...........


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.


> Don't pay ANY attention to those "Radioactive Material" signs.
> It's just a rumor that I have a side business storing radioactive waste.
> heh-heh-heh
>
> PS - Leave that Geiger counter at home!
>
> On Wed, September 22, 2010 6:02 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
>> Oh don't worry about no empty space, you'll have plenty when you get back
>> from Coolspring!!!   It seems Steve and I can't go this year, and he's
>> banned in Kentucky,  so we were thinking about taking the empty trailer 
>> on a
>> road trip........
>>
>> MR (the good) Royster
>
>
>
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From asouth42 at embarqmail.com  Wed Sep 22 21:18:10 2010
From: asouth42 at embarqmail.com (Arthur&Deana Southwell)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 00:18:10 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Oil Field Engines
Message-ID: <08AD4C3055CD48E18D6A50BAE62A6C1C@Arthurhplaptop>

I'm going to look at some oil field engines out west in Oct. If anyone is interested in purchasing a medium size oil field engine, 1000 to 2000 pounds I'm guessing, I will serve as your agent and possibly transport for expenses to TX, LA, MS, AL, GA, & FL. Other states will cost more. Call me for more info if interested. Dead line is Oct. 20th, 2010.
The engines can be viewed at the website below. If the site doesn't work for you, I can email the photos to you.

http://community.webshots.com/album/578623593tQXwwH

Arthur Southwell
Arcadia, FL, USA.

863-494-6813

asouth42 at embarqmail.com

From Germoamer at aol.com  Thu Sep 23 04:16:59 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 07:16:59 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
Message-ID: <5e58.27c1ee27.39cc912b@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 9/22/2010 6:09:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
mr at carolina.rr.com writes:

so we  were thinking about taking the empty trailer on a 
road  trip.


Be careful of coming thru Virginia.  There are some mean sob's that  live 
in the state!  
Kentucky follows the law, but Virginian's make their own lots of  times!
Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From jnyost at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 23 05:58:00 2010
From: jnyost at yahoo.com (James Yost)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 05:58:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.
In-Reply-To: <20100921.115152.965.9810@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100921.115152.965.9810@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <418525.47581.qm@web112603.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hey all

I found one of these in my neighbors barn about 6 to 8 years ago. Mine is a F.E. 
Meyers spray rig with a Stover engine like the one on Ebay. The wood is Cypress. 
I restored mine and bought?Cypress wood?from out of Florida and replaced the top 
and maybe a couple of boards on the bottom as I remember. 

?Jim and Janna Yost
Utica, Ohio
USA
jnyost at yahoo.com 




________________________________
From: "rdhaskell at juno.com" <rdhaskell at juno.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Sent: Tue, September 21, 2010 2:51:21 PM
Subject: [SEL] Wooden spray tank repair.

Hi all.
Anyone on the list ever replaced the wood on an old tank for a spray rig?
This one is about 4' long, 3' wide and 3' deep.? Round on the bottom and
held together with metal rods.? My question is about the long boards? on
the sides, the remaining boards are not tongue and groove they just butt
together and rely on the wood swelling up.? These boards have a slight
curve across their width, were them made that way or over the years of
being wet and clamped in place did they curve?
A lot of the original wood is there but saturated with arsenic and now
hazardous material and cannot be used.
Thanks for any suggestions.

Ron Haskell
rdhaskell at juno.com
Riverside, California USA
http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell
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From toadhill at aeroinc.net  Thu Sep 23 09:11:06 2010
From: toadhill at aeroinc.net (Joe Maurer)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:11:06 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Guts or Balls
Message-ID: <0A1F5CB6CED14373928A10E9C97DF6B9@toadhill>

Ever wondered about  | Guts or Balls...

There is a medical distinction.    We've all heard about people having
guts or balls, but do you really know the difference between them?
In an effort to keep you informed, the definitions are listed below:

                    GUTS - Is arriving home late after a night out
with the boys, being met by your wife with a broom,
                    and having the guts to ask: ''Are you still
cleaning, or are you flying somewhere?''

                    BALLS - Is coming home late after a night out with
the boys, smelling of perfume and beer,
                    lipstick on your collar, slapping your wife on the
arse and having the balls to say: ''You're next, fatty.''

I don't think I have either!!

Joe




From curt at rustyiron.com  Thu Sep 23 12:42:45 2010
From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:42:45 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Mike Burn IHC Pioneer Farm Days
In-Reply-To: <0A1F5CB6CED14373928A10E9C97DF6B9@toadhill>
References: <0A1F5CB6CED14373928A10E9C97DF6B9@toadhill>
Message-ID: <b7acd6562cfef4687b41e27dd785823e.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com>


It's that time of year again! Mike Burns will be having his IHC prairie
tractor and threshing show, Pioneer Farm Days, on October 16th.

Mapquest can help guide you at:
<http://www.mapquest.com/maps?address=2715+east+georgia+rd&city=simpsonvill
e&state=sc&country=US>

Address is:
2715 East Georgia Rd.
Simpsonville, SC

If you have a steel wheeled IHC prairie tractor or early IHC engines
please bring them! Working displays welcomed, wood sawing, corn shelling,
grinding, etc.

Mike's cell number is 864-414-1996.

Hope to see ya'll there.

Curt Holland




From asouth42 at embarqmail.com  Thu Sep 23 13:01:19 2010
From: asouth42 at embarqmail.com (Arthur & Deana Southwell)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:01:19 -0400
Subject: [SEL] oil field engine pumping
Message-ID: <278381065066425BA06D36EB5E92BBB1@DELL>





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky0OWzjZCRs










Arthur & Deana Southwell
Arcadia, FL   USA
asouth42 at embarqmail.com



From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Thu Sep 23 15:34:44 2010
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:34:44 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [SEL] oil field engine pumping
Message-ID: <16786200.1285281284490.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

There's a bunch of these just 20 min North of me Arthur.  You can drive right up to them if you like.  

Tim Christoff
Basehor, KS.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Arthur & Deana Southwell <asouth42 at embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 23, 2010 3:01 PM
>To: SEL <stationary-engine at atis.net>, "Old Engine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>, OFES at lists.stationary-engine.com
>Cc: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: [SEL] oil field engine pumping
>
>
>
>
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky0OWzjZCRs
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Arthur & Deana Southwell
>Arcadia, FL   USA
>asouth42 at embarqmail.com
>
>_______________________________________________
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Tim Christoff


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Sep 24 06:51:40 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:51:40 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Interesting "Tool" for Making Patterns
Message-ID: <50a1a178dd2cfb333df6f9cf558e1339.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Industrial parts replicator "printers" are fairly expensive.
This "open source" project attempts to explore the technology on a shoestring.

http://www.fabathome.org/?q=node/1

>From the FAQ...

What materials can you use?

The Fab at Home can build nearly anything out of any kind of liquid or paste that you
can imagine dispensing from a syringe. We have tried using household silicone rubber
caulk, epoxy, cheese, chocolate (with a small heater attached to the syringe tool),
cake frosting, ceramic clay (when mixed with sufficient water), PlayDoh, and gypsum
plaster.

Pretty neat...

So, for your next party build a detailed cheddar cheese Hercules.  8-))

See ya,  Arnie





From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Fri Sep 24 11:11:05 2010
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:11:05 -0400
Subject: [SEL] free winch for life ?
In-Reply-To: <6485378c245ca58bf4033e1290110cb6.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100915215935.01e3c930@mail.cyberserv.co.za><42F7DF71716542869043442E47959976@regpc>,
	, <ed23e9dfc2bd1911d06ee25899c0fd58.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	, <0AF9D4D21EED4771A91F65DB6D32FBFC@regpc>, ,
	<90bfccd2a349b774321f662dee587769.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	<COL112-W470EE426F3B526CFEBADB695600@phx.gbl>,
	<6485378c245ca58bf4033e1290110cb6.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <COL112-W156A702977210F933A9AB495620@phx.gbl>



 Ok Keith, lets have the scoop on the free winches, or did Arnie really mean Wenches?  Steve
 
 
>> Steve,
> 
> If you need a new winch (in addition to the obvious well-endowed Harbor Freight
> wench), be sure to talk to Keith to see how to get a free winch for life.
> 
> See ya, Arnie
> 
> 		 	   		  

From rob at rustyiron.com  Sun Sep 26 20:55:42 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 20:55:42 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Campbell Brochure
Message-ID: <CCAB7D69-E1B6-4C0F-976A-D37F312CF19F@rustyiron.com>

Long overdue:
http://www.rustyiron.com/literature/Campbell_Catalog.pdf
It's a 23 MB pdf file, suitable for printing.





From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 29 07:20:02 2010
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:20:02 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
Message-ID: <SNT118-W260AA079E0C7DD90840FDAC8670@phx.gbl>


Could someone give me the dates for the Portland 2011 show?   Any idea what the feature engine is?

Luke Tonneberger
Rockford, Michigan
USA 

 		 	   		  

From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 29 07:47:10 2010
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:47:10 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland 2010 Show Pictures and a Video
Message-ID: <SNT118-W34CFECBCE264780F3618D1C8670@phx.gbl>


Enjoy!
 
http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/port10/portland2010.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu6OlT5anVw

Luke Tonneberger
Rockford, Michigan
USA 

 		 	   		  

From frappi at wcoil.com  Wed Sep 29 08:00:17 2010
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:00:17 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
In-Reply-To: <SNT118-W260AA079E0C7DD90840FDAC8670@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT118-W260AA079E0C7DD90840FDAC8670@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20100929150016.310F593B7@smtp.wcoil.com>


August 24-28  is the date. No idea the feature.  You would think that 
this would be on their web site but if it is I can not find it. Had 
to dig out a magnet to get the date.   Mark


At 10:20 AM 9/29/2010, you wrote:

>Could someone give me the dates for the Portland 2011 show?   Any 
>idea what the feature engine is?
>
>Luke Tonneberger
>Rockford, Michigan
>USA
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com  



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 29 08:16:16 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:16:16 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
In-Reply-To: <SNT118-W260AA079E0C7DD90840FDAC8670@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT118-W260AA079E0C7DD90840FDAC8670@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8bd013a6a7e1b2e41f544f96baf97c86.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Luke,

Portland 2011 is May 18-21, 2011.  I don't know the feature.

Arnie

On Wed, September 29, 2010 10:20 am, Luke Tonneberger wrote:
>
> Could someone give me the dates for the Portland 2011 show?   Any idea what the
> feature engine is?




From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 29 08:08:52 2010
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:08:52 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
In-Reply-To: <20100929150016.310F593B7@smtp.wcoil.com>
References: <SNT118-W260AA079E0C7DD90840FDAC8670@phx.gbl>,
	<20100929150016.310F593B7@smtp.wcoil.com>
Message-ID: <SNT118-W21AE5143F861C75BF556D3C8670@phx.gbl>


Thanks Mark. Yea, I looked on their web page also and could not find it. I couldn't find anything laying around with next years date on it either.

Luke Tonneberger
Rockford, Michigan
USA 


 
> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:00:17 -0400
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> From: frappi at wcoil.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
> 
> 
> August 24-28 is the date. No idea the feature. You would think that 
> this would be on their web site but if it is I can not find it. Had 
> to dig out a magnet to get the date. Mark
> 
> 
> At 10:20 AM 9/29/2010, you wrote:
> 
> >Could someone give me the dates for the Portland 2011 show? Any 
> >idea what the feature engine is?
> >
> >Luke Tonneberger
> >Rockford, Michigan
> >USA
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >SEL mailing list
> >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> 
> Mark Shulaw
> 454 County Road 33
> Bluffton, OH. 45817
> USA
> 
> Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
> Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
> VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Wed Sep 29 08:30:10 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:30:10 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
In-Reply-To: <8bd013a6a7e1b2e41f544f96baf97c86.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <SNT118-W260AA079E0C7DD90840FDAC8670@phx.gbl>
	<8bd013a6a7e1b2e41f544f96baf97c86.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <99a809263164308e27ea8673a6e21e4c.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Oops...  That's the swap meet.

On Wed, September 29, 2010 11:16 am, Arnie Fero wrote:
> Portland 2011 is May 18-21, 2011.  I don't know the feature.





From MBellar at aol.com  Wed Sep 29 08:23:19 2010
From: MBellar at aol.com (MBellar at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:23:19 EDT
Subject: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
Message-ID: <4dcd9.3044f5f6.39d4b3e7@aol.com>

Show date August 24-27 2011
Tractor:  Minneapolis Moline
Engine:: Illinois -Built Engines
As stated on the last page of the 2010 show book
 
Tom
 
In a message dated 9/29/2010 11:06:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
frappi at wcoil.com writes:


August 24-28  is the date. No idea the feature.  You  would think that 
this would be on their web site but if it is I can not  find it. Had 
to dig out a magnet to get the date.    Mark


At 10:20 AM 9/29/2010, you wrote:

>Could someone  give me the dates for the Portland 2011 show?   Any 
>idea  what the feature engine is?
>
>Luke Tonneberger
>Rockford,  Michigan
>USA
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL  mailing  list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Mark  Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH.  45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996  Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine  parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com   

_______________________________________________
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SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 29 08:26:39 2010
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:26:39 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
In-Reply-To: <8bd013a6a7e1b2e41f544f96baf97c86.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <SNT118-W260AA079E0C7DD90840FDAC8670@phx.gbl>,
	<8bd013a6a7e1b2e41f544f96baf97c86.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <SNT118-W47E1396CDFA89135E7DA41C8670@phx.gbl>


Arnie,
 
That's probably for the swap meet. I was looking for the show. Mark Shulaw got me the dates. Aug 24-28. I'm getting ready to make reservations.

Luke Tonneberger
Rockford, Michigan
USA 

===========================
 
> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:16:16 -0400
> From: fero_ah at city-net.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
> 
> Luke,
> 
> Portland 2011 is May 18-21, 2011. I don't know the feature.
> 
> Arnie
> 
> On Wed, September 29, 2010 10:20 am, Luke Tonneberger wrote:
> >
> > Could someone give me the dates for the Portland 2011 show? Any idea what the
> > feature engine is?
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From flywheelin at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 29 08:45:09 2010
From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:45:09 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Videos from Portland 2010
Message-ID: <SNT118-W6523DC5C45EB1EE2C606ACC8670@phx.gbl>


I have uploaded some more videos from the Portland 2010 show.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS1VdF3BNQ8
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMcKBQ4K68g
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkDGtkE16cg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpt8RdmKmO0

Luke Tonneberger
Rockford, Michigan
USA 

 		 	   		  

From frappi at wcoil.com  Wed Sep 29 10:40:33 2010
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:40:33 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
In-Reply-To: <SNT118-W21AE5143F861C75BF556D3C8670@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT118-W260AA079E0C7DD90840FDAC8670@phx.gbl>
	<20100929150016.310F593B7@smtp.wcoil.com>
	<SNT118-W21AE5143F861C75BF556D3C8670@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20100929174029.7508D937A@smtp.wcoil.com>


Luke,
I've sent emails rattling a couple of cages to get the ball rolling 
to get 2011 info on the web site.      Mark


At 11:08 AM 9/29/2010, you wrote:

>Thanks Mark. Yea, I looked on their web page also and could not find 
>it. I couldn't find anything laying around with next years date on it either.
>
>Luke Tonneberger
>Rockford, Michigan
>USA
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:00:17 -0400
> > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > From: frappi at wcoil.com
> > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show 2011
> >
> >
> > August 24-28 is the date. No idea the feature. You would think that
> > this would be on their web site but if it is I can not find it. Had
> > to dig out a magnet to get the date. Mark
> >
> >
> > At 10:20 AM 9/29/2010, you wrote:
> >
> > >Could someone give me the dates for the Portland 2011 show? Any
> > >idea what the feature engine is?
> > >
> > >Luke Tonneberger
> > >Rockford, Michigan
> > >USA
> > >
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >SEL mailing list
> > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> >
> >
> > Mark Shulaw
> > 454 County Road 33
> > Bluffton, OH. 45817
> > USA
> >
> > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
> > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
> > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SEL mailing list
> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Mark Shulaw
454 County Road 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817
USA

Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206  Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at  www.Maytagclub.com  



From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Wed Sep 29 20:14:55 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:14:55 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Clear out of engines
Message-ID: <C8CA3DCF.5CF4%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

Sadly I am having to part with some engines. I have listed some on eBay but
if there are any list members interested I can do them a special deal :)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270642635966

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270640047991

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270642633074

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270642623878


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From plowe at exemail.com.au  Thu Sep 30 06:02:46 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 23:02:46 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Austin two cylinder engine
Message-ID: <5A3418C304B4417F8D95D96AF854BC84@peterlowe>

Hi all
A friend here is after information on an Austin two cylinder engine, double overhead cam shaft, water cooled this was driving a 32v generator.
Year is around 1926 - 27 we think.

Pictures and manual would be handy also.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Skype name: ozengines

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Sep 30 08:31:59 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:31:59 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Apple & Arts this Weekend
Message-ID: <f48b28d187ac118ac83b34f7596b6c0f.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Folks,

If you're near the Pittsburgh area and are looking for a fun little show, Apple &
Arts in Delmont, PA is this Saturday & Sunday.  Lots to see and do and the best
selection of apples and apple cider you could want.

See ya,  Arnie






From stevebarr at ameritech.net  Thu Sep 30 08:52:54 2010
From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 08:52:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] Apple & Arts this Weekend
In-Reply-To: <f48b28d187ac118ac83b34f7596b6c0f.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <741438.96563.qm@web82001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

?
See ya there Arnie...? We leave this afternoon...
?
Steve


--- On Thu, 9/30/10, Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:


From: Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com>
Subject: Apple & Arts this Weekend
To: "Old Engine List" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>, "Stationary Engine List" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Thursday, September 30, 2010, 10:31 AM


Folks,

If you're near the Pittsburgh area and are looking for a fun little show, Apple &
Arts in Delmont, PA is this Saturday & Sunday.? Lots to see and do and the best
selection of apples and apple cider you could want.

See ya,? Arnie



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Thu Sep 30 10:19:26 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 19:19:26 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Apple & Arts this Weekend
In-Reply-To: <f48b28d187ac118ac83b34f7596b6c0f.squirrel@webmail.city-net .com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100930191504.020bf290@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>

At 05:31 PM 30/09/2010, Arnie Fero wrote:
>Folks,
>
>If you're near the Pittsburgh area and are looking for a fun little show, 
>Apple &
>Arts in Delmont, PA is this Saturday & Sunday.  Lots to see and do and the 
>best
>selection of apples and apple cider you could want.
>
>See ya,  Arnie


Hi Arnie,
         Jacqui was sitting next to me when I opened this mail.

         Her comment, "Must be "Arnie"- the food and drink part gave it 
away" :-)

         Your reputation precedes you.

Keep well,
Jerry (and Jacqui). 

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Sep 30 12:45:31 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:45:31 -0400
Subject: [SEL] Apple & Arts this Weekend
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100930191504.020bf290@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100930191504.020bf290@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>
Message-ID: <d8289ce84f56ed76a819fc61e9d249ae.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Jerry (and Jacqui),

I do love my food and drink at rallys!!  Now if we followed the English model, that
cider I referred to would be something really interesting like scrumpy.  8->>

Still and all the food at A&A is way above average.  They have one vendor with a hot
sausage sandwich that is to die for.  Lots of other good stuff to eat.  Two
highlights are home made apple pie and apple dumplings.

You two should come over.

See ya,  Arnie

On Thu, September 30, 2010 1:19 pm, Jerry Evans wrote:
> At 05:31 PM 30/09/2010, Arnie Fero wrote:
>> Apple & Arts in Delmont, PA is this Saturday & Sunday.
>> Lots to see and do and the best selection of apples and
>> apple cider you could want.
>>
> Jacqui was sitting next to me when I opened this mail.
> Her comment, "Must be "Arnie"- the food and drink part gave it
> away" :-)
>
> Your reputation precedes you.





From avanti_64 at juno.com  Thu Sep 30 16:34:26 2010
From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 23:34:26 GMT
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Re:  Apple & Arts this Weekend
Message-ID: <20100930.193426.14591.0@webmail24.vgs.untd.com>

Arnie, I remember it well. I think I had Dave Huling with me when we attended many years ago. Seems like it was later in the year! (After the CS Fall show?) I picked up some Halloween decorations for the wife and she is still using them.
Joe

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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 30 16:51:00 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:51:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SEL] I need pickup help.
Message-ID: <293171.51441.qm@web111720.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Is anyone on these lists near Toms River, NJ?
There is a corn sheller on ebay I would like to bid on but that is too far away for the Local Pickup Only.
?
Alan in Michigan