From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com Tue Jun 1 23:52:23 2010 From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 06:52:23 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Campbell Dating Message-ID: Good morning guys,some one from Australia sent me a list of Campbell engines to date and I mistakenly deleted the email.If you are on the list and see this please get back to. John _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/ We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Thu Jun 3 04:51:06 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 21:51:06 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Some more from the 1929 R-T Price List Message-ID: A rush of blood and I have scanned and put some more images up at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austcatrt_1929_4.html Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From steve_royster at hotmail.com Thu Jun 3 10:23:48 2010 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:23:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Lister Help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: HI All, I have a friend who is a veterinarian and is looking for a small Lister single cylinder diesel to pull a small mill. This mill has a subbase made for the engine which he believes was a 6-1 Lister. Someone stole the engine years ago but left the base and mill. He would like it to be as close to the original engine as possible. So, all you lister experts out there. We are looking to buy a replacement Lister to fit this mill and also any literature on it. He thinks also an 8-1 might fit? I appreciate any help. Thanks Steve Royster _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From plowe at exemail.com.au Fri Jun 4 00:59:47 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:59:47 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Ronnie Tippett bearing replacement size Message-ID: Hi all Someone emailed me about the metric bearings I fitted into my Ronnie Tippett N model. Please contact me again as I can't find your email !!! Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Jun 4 09:50:34 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:50:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? Message-ID: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Folks, I'm looking for a galvanized water trough maybe 3-4' long x 2' wide, perhaps 18" to 2' deep to use with my Bamford / Millars mud pump outfit. Searching the web wasn't very helpful. This seems like it should be a common type of farm item. Any suggestions on where I might find them for sale? Thanks!! See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com From b2 at chooka.net Fri Jun 4 10:08:49 2010 From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:08:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? In-Reply-To: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <000801cb0408$9994daf0$ccbe90d0$@net> Tractorsupply.com Livestock equipment Stock tanks Looks to me like just what you're looking for: 2x2x4 galvanized tank. Bill Brueck Pine Island, MN USA -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 11:51 AM To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? Folks, I'm looking for a galvanized water trough maybe 3-4' long x 2' wide, perhaps 18" to 2' deep to use with my Bamford / Millars mud pump outfit. Searching the web wasn't very helpful. This seems like it should be a common type of farm item. Any suggestions on where I might find them for sale? Thanks!! See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From oldironnut at windstream.net Fri Jun 4 10:30:41 2010 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 13:30:41 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? In-Reply-To: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <4C093841.9040700@windstream.net> Arnie, Is this what you're after? http://www.southernstates.com/catalog/p-2158-tarter-100gal-galvanized-oval-stock-tank.aspx Find a Southern States or Tractor Supply Center near you and they should have one for you. See ya', Mike On 6/4/10 12:50 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Folks, > > I'm looking for a galvanized water trough maybe 3-4' long x 2' wide, perhaps 18" to > 2' deep to use with my Bamford / Millars mud pump outfit. Searching the web wasn't > very helpful. > > This seems like it should be a common type of farm item. > > Any suggestions on where I might find them for sale? Thanks!! > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From bboyce at swat.coop Fri Jun 4 10:42:58 2010 From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:42:58 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? In-Reply-To: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <8BEA1533728E46A89C6B75FCD790AB33@billPC> common item around here, arnie,,,, yall have Tractor Supply Company stores there ? or check the local farmers supply coop,,,,even Lowes and Home Depot have em here,,, bill boyce lost prairie arkansas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Fero" To: ; Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 11:50 AM Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? > Folks, > > I'm looking for a galvanized water trough maybe 3-4' long x 2' wide, > perhaps 18" to > 2' deep to use with my Bamford / Millars mud pump outfit. Searching the > web wasn't > very helpful. > > This seems like it should be a common type of farm item. > > Any suggestions on where I might find them for sale? Thanks!! > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From obise at moscow.com Fri Jun 4 10:50:28 2010 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:50:28 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? In-Reply-To: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <01E9A0BF3EB448DCAA469AC6C6C94EC6@CathyComp> -----Original Message----- From: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org [mailto:stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:51 AM To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Galvanized Water Trough? Folks, I'm looking for a galvanized water trough maybe 3-4' long x 2' wide, perhaps 18" to 2' deep to use with my Bamford / Millars mud pump outfit. Searching the web wasn't very helpful. This seems like it should be a common type of farm item. Any suggestions on where I might find them for sale? Thanks!! See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com ******** Arnie, do you mean to say that your area is so urbanized that nobody keeps horses? Out here in God's Country every farm and ranch supply outfit keeps them in stock. Lacking galvanized troughs, perhaps you can find used whiskey aging barrels. The garden shops around here sell them for planters. Generally, they are cut in half; but, we can also buy them intact. Good luck! Orrin From don.h at wcoil.com Fri Jun 4 11:04:10 2010 From: don.h at wcoil.com (Don Heringhaus) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:04:10 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? In-Reply-To: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: I bet Lehman's country store in Amish land here in the great state of Ohio would have it I'm not napping, I'm just checking the inside of my eyelids." From steve_royster at hotmail.com Fri Jun 4 11:13:38 2010 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:13:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? In-Reply-To: <4C093841.9040700@windstream.net> References: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>, <4C093841.9040700@windstream.net> Message-ID: Around here we call them the "Poor Boys Hot Tub" , Steve > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 13:30:41 -0400 > From: oldironnut at windstream.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? > > Arnie, > > Is this what you're after? > http://www.southernstates.com/catalog/p-2158-tarter-100gal-galvanized-oval-stock-tank.aspx > > Find a Southern States or Tractor Supply Center near you and they should > have one for you. > > See ya', > Mike > > On 6/4/10 12:50 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > > Folks, > > > > I'm looking for a galvanized water trough maybe 3-4' long x 2' wide, perhaps 18" to > > 2' deep to use with my Bamford / Millars mud pump outfit. Searching the web wasn't > > very helpful. > > > > This seems like it should be a common type of farm item. > > > > Any suggestions on where I might find them for sale? Thanks!! > > > > See ya, Arnie > > > > Arnie Fero > > Pittsburgh, PA > > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From marinesurveys at msn.com Fri Jun 4 11:41:58 2010 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:41:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? In-Reply-To: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Arnie; What about an old claw footed bath tub ;-} Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:50:34 -0400 > From: fero_ah at city-net.com > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? > > Folks, > > I'm looking for a galvanized water trough maybe 3-4' long x 2' wide, perhaps 18" to > 2' deep to use with my Bamford / Millars mud pump outfit. Searching the web wasn't > very helpful. > > This seems like it should be a common type of farm item. > > Any suggestions on where I might find them for sale? Thanks!! > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Fri Jun 4 15:17:51 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 08:17:51 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? References: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <142A3BB70C534B08BDEEA713273655C7@peterlowe> Every man and his dog has one here in Oz Arnie ;-))) Common as dirt. Pete > Folks, > > I'm looking for a galvanized water trough maybe 3-4' long x 2' wide, > perhaps 18" to > 2' deep to use with my Bamford / Millars mud pump outfit. Searching the > web wasn't > very helpful. > > This seems like it should be a common type of farm item. > > Any suggestions on where I might find them for sale? Thanks!! > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Jun 4 16:59:29 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:59:29 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? In-Reply-To: <142A3BB70C534B08BDEEA713273655C7@peterlowe> References: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <142A3BB70C534B08BDEEA713273655C7@peterlowe> Message-ID: <5ECF174B-12B8-42E8-862C-8FA87B0E1CE6@rustyiron.com> Arnie Fero wrote: >> my Bamford / Millars mud pump outfit. Peter Lowe wrote: > Every man and his dog has one here in Oz Arnie ;-))) Common as dirt. That's not very nice, Pete. From rotigel at me.com Fri Jun 4 18:09:25 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 21:09:25 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? In-Reply-To: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: We should probably look in my barn! Dave On Jun 4, 2010, at 12:50 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Folks, > > I'm looking for a galvanized water trough maybe 3-4' long x 2' wide, > perhaps 18" to > 2' deep to use with my Bamford / Millars mud pump outfit. Searching > the web wasn't > very helpful. > > This seems like it should be a common type of farm item. > > Any suggestions on where I might find them for sale? Thanks!! > > See ya, Arnie From kkinney at herculesengines.com Sat Jun 5 21:38:03 2010 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 23:38:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] SIAM show In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I was wondering who will be attending the SIAM show next weekend? I will be roping off and area for us and just wondering how large an area to reserve. We also have reservations at the Log Inn for Friday evening for our usual dinner for those wanting to attend. Fill free to e-mail me off list if you like. Looking forward to seeing everyone. Keith Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Jun 6 06:41:34 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 08:41:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] SIAM show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Keith: Although I probably won't be attending the SIAM show again, I'd like to recommend it to anyone as a good show to make. Have fun and say hi from me to anyone who gives a hoot. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Keith > Kinney > Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 11:38 PM > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; The SEL > email discussion list > Subject: [SEL] SIAM show > > > I was wondering who will be attending the SIAM > show next weekend? I will be roping off and area > for us and just wondering how large an area to > reserve. We also have reservations at the Log > Inn for Friday evening for our usual dinner for > those wanting to attend. Fill free to e-mail me > off list if you like. > Looking forward to seeing everyone. > Keith > > Keith Kinney > kkinney at herculesengines.com > WWW.HerculesEngines.com From rotigel at me.com Mon Jun 7 06:18:55 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:18:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up Message-ID: <7AD8E616-18FF-4E0A-B95C-2C12A2810F89@me.com> Hi All, As all of you, I am sure, know the Coolspring show is June 17, 18, and 19 this year. I've spoken with Jake and the SEL will again have our space in the second row at the far end near the trees. Please try to fill in our space from the trees back toward the entrance in order that we can "give back" what we are not using by Friday afternoon. They are expecting a BIG crowd! I have two mates from OZ coming in to help me mark off the SEL area on Tuesday (June 15) so if some of the SEL Reserved signs are upside down, please understand. Hope to see a lot of you at Coolspring! Dave From jlb94 at juno.com Mon Jun 7 07:45:38 2010 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 14:45:38 GMT Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up Message-ID: <20100607.104538.7487.2@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> Hi Dave, If things go right, I plan on being at Coolspring this year. Probably arrive Thursday evening. Try to save me a spot. Thanks Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ (_o_) " When one teaches, two learn. " ---------- Original Message ---------- From: David Rotigel To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:18:55 -0400 Hi All, As all of you, I am sure, know the Coolspring show is June 17, 18, and 19 this year. I've spoken with Jake and the SEL will again have our space in the second row at the far end near the trees. Please try to fill in our space from the trees back toward the entrance in order that we can "give back" what we are not using by Friday afternoon. They are expecting a BIG crowd! I have two mates from OZ coming in to help me mark off the SEL area on Tuesday (June 15) so if some of the SEL Reserved signs are upside down, please understand. Hope to see a lot of you at Coolspring! Dave _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 From jbcast at charter.net Mon Jun 7 08:48:06 2010 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 8:48:06 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up In-Reply-To: <7AD8E616-18FF-4E0A-B95C-2C12A2810F89@me.com> Message-ID: <20100607114807.WUP6I.7309060.root@mp12> Dave, I'm planning to be there Thurs & Friday, If I go in the truck I'm going to bring two engines. Is there a forklift available or can you display from the truck? J.B. Castagnos From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Mon Jun 7 11:20:45 2010 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:20:45 -0000 Subject: [SEL] FM Y engine manual?? Message-ID: <703F8246E3454C8EB01955A58D97A892@Desktop> Does anybody know of a source for a Fairbanks Morse Y engine manual. This is the horizontal engine, probably 12 - 15 HP. I have looked everywhere on the net and drawn a blank. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes jd.kirkes at verizon.net From jdohagan at comcast.net Mon Jun 7 14:21:06 2010 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 14:21:06 -0700 Subject: [SEL] FM Y engine manual?? In-Reply-To: <703F8246E3454C8EB01955A58D97A892@Desktop> References: <703F8246E3454C8EB01955A58D97A892@Desktop> Message-ID: Hi Jim, copies of the manuals for FM."Y"s show up periodically on "E Bay". Cya, Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim Kirkes Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 11:20 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; OFES; Oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] FM Y engine manual?? Does anybody know of a source for a Fairbanks Morse Y engine manual. This is the horizontal engine, probably 12 - 15 HP. I have looked everywhere on the net and drawn a blank. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes jd.kirkes at verizon.net _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Jun 7 14:50:24 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:50:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up References: <7AD8E616-18FF-4E0A-B95C-2C12A2810F89@me.com> Message-ID: <001701cb068b$6f748880$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Steve and I will see you there!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:18 AM Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up > Hi All, > As all of you, I am sure, know the Coolspring show is June 17, 18, > and 19 this year. I've spoken with Jake and the SEL will again have > our space in the second row at the far end near the trees. Please try > to fill in our space from the trees back toward the entrance in order > that we can "give back" what we are not using by Friday afternoon. > They are expecting a BIG crowd! I have two mates from OZ coming in to > help me mark off the SEL area on Tuesday (June 15) so if some of the > SEL Reserved signs are upside down, please understand. Hope to see a > lot of you at Coolspring! > Dave > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Mon Jun 7 16:17:20 2010 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:17:20 -0000 Subject: [SEL] FM Y engine manual?? References: <703F8246E3454C8EB01955A58D97A892@Desktop> Message-ID: Thanks Jim, I will keep an eye out for one. Jim and Diane Kirkes jd.kirkes at verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim O'Hagan" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] FM Y engine manual?? Hi Jim, copies of the manuals for FM."Y"s show up periodically on "E Bay". Cya, Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim Kirkes Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 11:20 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; OFES; Oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] FM Y engine manual?? Does anybody know of a source for a Fairbanks Morse Y engine manual. This is the horizontal engine, probably 12 - 15 HP. I have looked everywhere on the net and drawn a blank. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes jd.kirkes at verizon.net _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Mon Jun 7 17:12:56 2010 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:12:56 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Replacing a belt pulley hub Message-ID: G'day all; The shingle mill projects has run over a year now and can see the light at the end of the tunnel. We did by chance happen to come upon an original(?) belt pulley w/inertia wheel...the hub is cracked ~ 75% along the keyway and right through the middle of the setscrews. Has anyone every milled off the bad section of hub and bolted on a new machined one? Never heard of it before but willing to take a stab at it. Thanks for reading, RickinMt. From jdohagan at comcast.net Mon Jun 7 17:16:44 2010 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:16:44 -0700 Subject: [SEL] FM Y engine manual?? In-Reply-To: References: <703F8246E3454C8EB01955A58D97A892@Desktop> Message-ID: <7EB3A1ED2CF84A40B99B04AD03FF4418@VALUED3253602F> Jim, 360243083168, Cya, Jimmy Ps, Going to the National? -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim Kirkes Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 4:17 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] FM Y engine manual?? Thanks Jim, I will keep an eye out for one. Jim and Diane Kirkes jd.kirkes at verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim O'Hagan" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] FM Y engine manual?? Hi Jim, copies of the manuals for FM."Y"s show up periodically on "E Bay". Cya, Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim Kirkes Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 11:20 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; OFES; Oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] FM Y engine manual?? Does anybody know of a source for a Fairbanks Morse Y engine manual. This is the horizontal engine, probably 12 - 15 HP. I have looked everywhere on the net and drawn a blank. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes jd.kirkes at verizon.net _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jdohagan at comcast.net Mon Jun 7 22:53:17 2010 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:53:17 -0700 Subject: [SEL] F,M. manual type "Y" Message-ID: <646B4B4EBB17422CB04860CA8346789C@VALUED3253602F> Jim, 360243083168 will work. Cya, Jimmy From nancydick at pennswoods.net Tue Jun 8 03:45:31 2010 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 06:45:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up In-Reply-To: <20100607.104538.7487.2@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100607.104538.7487.2@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <4c0e1f54.483fe70a.2386.ffffd9f9@mx.google.com> Hi Joe just wanted to say thanks again for setting me up with my first hit and miss engine. Although i done every thing wrong after i got it i learned a lot by my mistakes and people off this SEL. R Fink PA At 02:45 PM 6/7/2010 +0000, you wrote: >Hi Dave, >If things go right, I plan on being at Coolspring this year. >Probably arrive Thursday evening. >Try to save me a spot. >Thanks >Joe "Pip" Betz said that. >jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz >,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz >\/)"(\/ >(_o_) " When one teaches, two learn. " > > > >---------- Original Message ---------- >From: David Rotigel >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up >Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:18:55 -0400 > >Hi All, >As all of you, I am sure, know the Coolspring show is June 17, 18, >and 19 this year. I've spoken with Jake and the SEL will again have >our space in the second row at the far end near the trees. Please try >to fill in our space from the trees back toward the entrance in order >that we can "give back" what we are not using by Friday afternoon. >They are expecting a BIG crowd! I have two mates from OZ coming in to >help me mark off the SEL area on Tuesday (June 15) so if some of the >SEL Reserved signs are upside down, please understand. Hope to see a >lot of you at Coolspring! >Dave >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >____________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! >http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Tue Jun 8 05:10:41 2010 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 08:10:41 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up References: <7AD8E616-18FF-4E0A-B95C-2C12A2810F89@me.com> Message-ID: <12aa01cb0703$9d515300$6401a8c0@PC179134136174> I plan on coming on Thursday, and will bring some of the volunteers who are working with me on the Westinghouse engine project. I think it will be great for some of the original Wrecking Crew to meet the "new" Wrecking Crew! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:18 AM Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up > Hi All, > As all of you, I am sure, know the Coolspring show is June 17, 18, > and 19 this year. I've spoken with Jake and the SEL will again have > our space in the second row at the far end near the trees. Please try > to fill in our space from the trees back toward the entrance in order > that we can "give back" what we are not using by Friday afternoon. > They are expecting a BIG crowd! I have two mates from OZ coming in to > help me mark off the SEL area on Tuesday (June 15) so if some of the > SEL Reserved signs are upside down, please understand. Hope to see a > lot of you at Coolspring! > Dave > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Jun 8 16:26:54 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 09:26:54 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie Message-ID: <4634FD8E80994D46A5E6D8FF6B5E7C50@peterlowe> My Skype pop-up tells me that it is Arnie's Birthday, and he has turned 41 is that correct.??? computers do not lie do they ;-))) If so: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MATE Pete, Oz From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Tue Jun 8 16:54:09 2010 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie Message-ID: <10421.46af9626.39403221@aol.com> Arnie Oh your getting old. Happy B Day KK over the pond In a message dated 6/8/2010 7:29:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, plowe at exemail.com.au writes: My Skype pop-up tells me that it is Arnie's Birthday, and he has turned 41 is that correct.??? computers do not lie do they ;-))) If so: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MATE Pete, Oz From rotigel at me.com Tue Jun 8 17:43:29 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:43:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie In-Reply-To: <10421.46af9626.39403221@aol.com> References: <10421.46af9626.39403221@aol.com> Message-ID: Arnie told me only last week that it now takes him all night to do what he used to do all night! Dave On Jun 8, 2010, at 7:54 PM, BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote: > Arnie Oh your getting old. > Happy B Day > KK over the pond > > > In a message dated 6/8/2010 7:29:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > plowe at exemail.com.au writes: > > My Skype pop-up tells me that it is Arnie's Birthday, and he has > turned 41 > is that correct.??? computers do not lie do they ;-))) > > If so: > > HAPPY BIRTHDAY MATE > > > Pete, Oz From rob at rustyiron.com Tue Jun 8 17:51:48 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:51:48 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie In-Reply-To: <4634FD8E80994D46A5E6D8FF6B5E7C50@peterlowe> References: <4634FD8E80994D46A5E6D8FF6B5E7C50@peterlowe> Message-ID: On Jun 8, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Peter Lowe wrote: > My Skype pop-up tells me that it is Arnie's Birthday, Bloody Windows users... From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Jun 8 19:00:09 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 21:00:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie In-Reply-To: <10421.46af9626.39403221@aol.com> Message-ID: Arnie: At 41, you're still a kid to us grownups. Just ask Dave. :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 06:54 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Tue Jun 8 18:08:57 2010 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:08:57 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie In-Reply-To: <4634FD8E80994D46A5E6D8FF6B5E7C50@peterlowe> References: <4634FD8E80994D46A5E6D8FF6B5E7C50@peterlowe> Message-ID: <4AF4D96D4DF646679551CF8A2002DC94@KerryPC> 41 yeh, the stray nuke thingies have had a major effect. Fell for that one last year, the old mate put in any date as you have to be safe on Facebook and Skype there are some strange sex predators out there that only wants his body Kerry From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Tue Jun 8 18:16:10 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 11:16:10 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally Message-ID: Due to work commitments (working late Friday night and 7am start on Monday) I cannot make it to Manilla this year. It is dissapointing as it is one of the great little rallies. Hopefully we will make it next year and hopefully bring our new little engine collector ;) Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From frappi at wcoil.com Tue Jun 8 20:00:07 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 23:00:07 -0400 Subject: [SEL] FREE Decals Message-ID: <20100609030004.18750938C@smtp.wcoil.com> Hi All, Check out ebay Item number: 110537682660 He claims if you call he will give you a set of free decals!! Below is a copy of the text from the listing. Mark * These decals look just as nice and BETTER than the water decals! (Don't believe me? Call me and I will send you a FREE SAMPLE!!!) Questions? Call 712-490-5596. Thanks, Zach From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Jun 8 21:00:36 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:00:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie In-Reply-To: <4634FD8E80994D46A5E6D8FF6B5E7C50@peterlowe> References: <4634FD8E80994D46A5E6D8FF6B5E7C50@peterlowe> Message-ID: <6f51d1daa5e731b4b5cf8c710ac0b46b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> G'day Mate!! For info, I have T-shirts that are older than 41!! 8-)) PS - You must be running Skype on a Mac. 8-)) On Tue, June 8, 2010 7:26 pm, Peter Lowe wrote: > My Skype pop-up tells me that it is Arnie's Birthday, and he has turned 41 is that > correct.??? computers do not lie do they ;-))) > > If so: > > HAPPY BIRTHDAY MATE From camaned at iinet.net.au Wed Jun 9 01:13:07 2010 From: camaned at iinet.net.au (Cam Grundy) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 18:13:07 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie In-Reply-To: <4AF4D96D4DF646679551CF8A2002DC94@KerryPC> References: <4634FD8E80994D46A5E6D8FF6B5E7C50@peterlowe> <4AF4D96D4DF646679551CF8A2002DC94@KerryPC> Message-ID: <81B5D37CA0BB4821BA333CB04A86E860@CamPC> See ya next year Patrick. Cam. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" To: ; "ATIS" Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie > 41 yeh, the stray nuke thingies have had a major effect. > Fell for that one last year, the old mate put in any date as you have to > be safe on Facebook and Skype there are some strange sex > predators out there that only wants his body > > Kerry > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Jun 9 03:37:26 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 06:37:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie References: <4634FD8E80994D46A5E6D8FF6B5E7C50@peterlowe> <4AF4D96D4DF646679551CF8A2002DC94@KerryPC> Message-ID: <004b01cb07bf$c1255b70$0201a8c0@mikecomp> and in honor of Arnie's birthday.......... http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=7lSliucgygc From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jun 9 04:51:52 2010 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:51:52 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up In-Reply-To: <7AD8E616-18FF-4E0A-B95C-2C12A2810F89@me.com> References: <7AD8E616-18FF-4E0A-B95C-2C12A2810F89@me.com> Message-ID: <20100609115127.3164C3040F9@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> The real reason the old man has a couple of Ozzies helping is to hold the reserve signs steady so he can thread the wire through then to hang em on the rope. Tell the truth .... Russ At 11:18 PM 7/06/2010, you wrote: >Hi All, > As all of you, I am sure, know the Coolspring show is June 17, 18, >and 19 this year. I've spoken with Jake and the SEL will again have >our space in the second row at the far end near the trees. Please try >to fill in our space from the trees back toward the entrance in order >that we can "give back" what we are not using by Friday afternoon. >They are expecting a BIG crowd! I have two mates from OZ coming in to >help me mark off the SEL area on Tuesday (June 15) so if some of the >SEL Reserved signs are upside down, please understand. Hope to see a >lot of you at Coolspring! > Dave >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jun 9 04:51:52 2010 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:51:52 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up In-Reply-To: <7AD8E616-18FF-4E0A-B95C-2C12A2810F89@me.com> References: <7AD8E616-18FF-4E0A-B95C-2C12A2810F89@me.com> Message-ID: <20100609121015.E486831811D@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> The real reason the old man has a couple of Ozzies helping is to hold the reserve signs steady so he can thread the wire through then to hang em on the rope. Tell the truth .... Russ At 11:18 PM 7/06/2010, you wrote: >Hi All, > As all of you, I am sure, know the Coolspring show is June 17, 18, >and 19 this year. I've spoken with Jake and the SEL will again have >our space in the second row at the far end near the trees. Please try >to fill in our space from the trees back toward the entrance in order >that we can "give back" what we are not using by Friday afternoon. >They are expecting a BIG crowd! I have two mates from OZ coming in to >help me mark off the SEL area on Tuesday (June 15) so if some of the >SEL Reserved signs are upside down, please understand. Hope to see a >lot of you at Coolspring! > Dave >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Wed Jun 9 05:29:06 2010 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:29:06 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up References: <7AD8E616-18FF-4E0A-B95C-2C12A2810F89@me.com> Message-ID: <4CD81157455D4D75BE073DFDAD7742A3@morpheus> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 2:18 PM Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up > Hi All, > As all of you, I am sure, know the Coolspring show is June 17, 18, > and 19 this year. I've spoken with Jake and the SEL will again have > our space in the second row at the far end near the trees. Please try > to fill in our space from the trees back toward the entrance in order > that we can "give back" what we are not using by Friday afternoon. > They are expecting a BIG crowd! I have two mates from OZ coming in to > help me mark off the SEL area on Tuesday (June 15) so if some of the > SEL Reserved signs are upside down, please understand. Hope to see a > lot of you at Coolspring! > Dave Hi Dave, If your Aussie friends have sign problems feel free to use the one I did 4 years ago! see http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ullerman/Misc#5480748438231946690 Dave Croft Warrington. http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jun 9 15:48:11 2010 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 08:48:11 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up In-Reply-To: <4CD81157455D4D75BE073DFDAD7742A3@morpheus> References: <7AD8E616-18FF-4E0A-B95C-2C12A2810F89@me.com> <4CD81157455D4D75BE073DFDAD7742A3@morpheus> Message-ID: <20100609224745.37B983040D9@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> Hey Crofty, looks more like a long drop than a toilet! At 10:29 PM 9/06/2010, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Rotigel" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 2:18 PM >Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up > > > > Hi All, > > As all of you, I am sure, know the Coolspring show is June 17, 18, > > and 19 this year. I've spoken with Jake and the SEL will again have > > our space in the second row at the far end near the trees. Please try > > to fill in our space from the trees back toward the entrance in order > > that we can "give back" what we are not using by Friday afternoon. > > They are expecting a BIG crowd! I have two mates from OZ coming in to > > help me mark off the SEL area on Tuesday (June 15) so if some of the > > SEL Reserved signs are upside down, please understand. Hope to see a > > lot of you at Coolspring! > > Dave > >Hi Dave, If your Aussie friends have sign problems feel free to use the >one I did 4 years ago! see >http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ullerman/Misc#5480748438231946690 >Dave Croft >Warrington. >http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ >http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rwenig2 at xplornet.com Wed Jun 9 19:30:27 2010 From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:30:27 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: OT help Message-ID: <4C104E43.9050605@xplornet.com> Hi guys, This showed up in my inbox but I didn't see it come through on SEL. Reg needs some help. I've had similar troubles from the ISP's he mentions. Can anyone who used the mentioned ISP's forward this to respective ISP administrator. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: OT help Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:15:58 +1000 From: Reg Ingold Reply-To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org To: I am unable to send mail to comcast .net, ameritech.net.sbcglobal.net and a few others. Most have this or similar. 5.4.7 - Delivery expired (message too old) [Default] 451-'4.7.7 Excessive userid unknowns from 210.50.76.235' My server seems unable to sort it. Any clues from the gurus out there? It is bad as I cannot contact friends on those suppliers.. Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Attached Message Part URL: -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2927 - Release Date: 06/09/10 00:35:00 From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Thu Jun 10 03:25:11 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:25:11 +1000 Subject: [SEL] R&V CR paint Message-ID: Carefully stripping the red oxide paint of the hopper and the yellow off the head I found some numbers on the hopper. These appear to be under the original green paint. One lot are hand painted but the others are stencilled. There are also some hand painted numbers on the offside flywheels. Any ideas? My guess is that they are assembly or order numbers. http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/rvcr/4003t.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/rvcr/4004t.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/rvcr/4005t.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/rvcr/4001t.jpg Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From rotigel at me.com Sun Jun 13 16:48:42 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:48:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SIAM SHOW Message-ID: Hi All, I just returned from the SIAM Show. Those of you who missed it missed a GOOD one. Good food, good beer and most of all GOOD friends! pictures can be seen at: http://web.mac.com/rotigel/iWeb/Site/Library%202.html Dave PS, Thanks to everyone involved in the show! From rotigel at me.com Sun Jun 13 17:00:48 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:00:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SIAM SHOW 2010 Message-ID: <02236F04-F6EC-4833-AC01-BB2A63FD5D36@me.com> Hi All, I just returned from the SIAM Show. Those of you who missed it missed a GOOD one. Good food, good beer and most of all GOOD friends! pictures can be seen at:http://web.mac.com/rotigel/iWeb/Site/Library%202.html Dave PS, Thanks to everyone involved in the show! From gastzt at aol.com Sun Jun 13 17:52:40 2010 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:52:40 EDT Subject: [SEL] SIAM SHOW Message-ID: <3e156.2756f1e0.3946d758@aol.com> In a message dated 6/13/2010 6:59:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rotigel at me.com writes: http://web.mac.com/rotigel/iWeb/Site/Library%202.html WOW! GREAT pictures----and thanks! Stan Zettner old stovers!!! Pleasanton, Tex From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Sun Jun 13 18:54:59 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:54:59 +1000 Subject: [SEL] SIAM SHOW References: Message-ID: Thanks for the great pictures of friends. Nice engines too! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" ; Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:48 AM Subject: [SEL] SIAM SHOW > Hi All, > I just returned from the SIAM Show. Those of you who missed it > missed a GOOD one. Good food, good beer and most of all GOOD friends! > pictures can be seen at: > http://web.mac.com/rotigel/iWeb/Site/Library%202.html > Dave > PS, Thanks to everyone involved in the show! > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Jun 14 01:59:14 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:59:14 +0100 Subject: [SEL] New Reproduction Engine Trolley and Trolley Parts at Nuenen Message-ID: This might be of interest, there are new repro trolley parts that we saw at Nuenen, picture here: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2010/Nuenen2010045.htm or here: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2010/Nuenen2010045.htm I found the card with the prices this morning: Large wheel 520mm as cast Euro 80.00 each Large wheel 520mm machined Euro 95.00 each Medium wheel 370mm as cast Euro 50.00 each Medium wheel 370mm machined Euro 65.00 each Small wheel 210mm as cast Euro 20.00 Small wheel 210mm machined Euro 25.00 Frame castings, four wheels etc., no axles or frame channels Euro 420.00 Frame castings, four wheels etc., no axles or frame channels, machined Euro 580.00 Complete trolley, unpainted with side channels, axles and timber drawbar, Euro 980.00. All are ex-works prices. Contact email: vafe63 at gmail.com Carriage would be an issue, but if a few buyers clubbed together for a single shipment, it would ease the pain. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From plowe at exemail.com.au Mon Jun 14 02:39:25 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:39:25 +1000 Subject: [SEL] I am still alive ;-))) Message-ID: <0BF2FEC7D585490580F1FC430D8F64CF@peterlowe> Hi all Just a quick note to say I am still alive and well, there have been quite a few OFF LIST post to me asking whether I had given up the hobby. We moved house from 3 1/2 acres to town, our choice and less work for us as we get older. Kaye's dream is to open a B&B as the house we bought is a heritage house well over 100 years old. (Yes Helen, we know your house is older ;-))) I am hoping to setup our private museum over the next twelve months. We have taken over my parents private Museum in Newcastle also. My new workshop is progressing slowly, my Mill and Lathe should be running this week and I will get back into my R&V Vertical very soon. Another reason for me being a little quieter, my Mum is now in a nursing home and that is hard to take, I have been back and forward to Newcastle every second weekend or so (5 1/2 hour drive) to keep an eye on my Dad and help him pack up a life time of collecting and moving into a two bedroom unit. I also have been very busy on my R&V book and getting things ready for the R&V Expo at Mount Pleasant, Iowa in September. I will have two days at Portland which I am very much looking forward to and coming to the dinner at the Back Forty as well. Portland holds a special memory from 1999 and I very much want to meet all you guys again. I must admit though, the passion for old iron has waned a little, I have taken some of my Dad's Edison Phonographs and Gramophones and also his valve (tube) radios. I have tinkered with these over the years and my electrical/electronics back ground is helpful on the radios. I am enjoying this hobby as well. My Dad had hundreds or radios and many Edison Phonographs and Gramophones, most of which he has now sold or I have taken over. So I am still here and read all the posts and usually comment OFF LIST where it is needed. I also spend equal time on "The Talking Machine" and "Edison Phonograph" forums as well. Take care guys. Peter Lowe, Oz From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Jun 14 06:39:47 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:39:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] I am still alive ;-))) In-Reply-To: <0BF2FEC7D585490580F1FC430D8F64CF@peterlowe> Message-ID: Peter: Sorry to hear about your Mom and living situation. Keep on keeping-on. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Peter Lowe Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:39 AM To: Oldengine.org; ATIS Subject: [SEL] I am still alive ;-))) From flywheelin at hotmail.com Mon Jun 14 10:15:07 2010 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:15:07 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification Message-ID: I have several parts listed here and would like to indentify them. Can you help?? Looks like a fuel pump, what engine would it go on? http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-668F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG Looks like an IHC fuel pump, what engine would it go on? http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-676F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-677F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-674F.JPG What engine would this coil go to or on? http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-652F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-653F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-655F.JPG What in the world is this thing for? http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-660F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-661F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-662F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-664F.JPG Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Jun 14 11:02:08 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:02:08 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Luke: The last "Thing" is a part of a wind-up victrola or Edison phonograph motor. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Luke Tonneberger Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 1:15 PM To: Engine List Cc: stationary-engine at oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification ........................snip......................... What in the world is this thing for? http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-660F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-661F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-662F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-664F.JPG From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon Jun 14 11:23:00 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Luke, Not sure but could this possibly be off of a Mogul? Some of the IH guys will know for sure. Looks like a fuel pump, what engine would it go on? http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-668F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG You might have to give some additional dimensions although the IH guys can look it up on the parts listing and tell you. Its for an engine, could be the 4, 6, 8, 10 etc horizontals or if it?s a small pump for the 2 ? Famous. http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-676F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-677F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-674F.JPG Not sure on this could and could be a host of possibilities. http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-652F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-653F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-655F.JPG Elden called this a Victrola ?motor?. He?s close. It?s a Victrola governor. It works just like the governor on an engine and controls the speed on how fast the table rotates. I took one of those out of an old Victrola when I was about 12 and still have it. http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-660F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-661F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-662F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-664F.JPG Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Jun 14 12:12:24 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:12:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100614191217.5DE57939D@smtp.wcoil.com> Dittos to what Elden says on the last item. Definitely appears to be a record or roll player wind up piece. The coil is for an XH Wico Magneto. Thats an old number. Mark At 02:02 PM 6/14/2010, you wrote: >Luke: > >The last "Thing" is a part of a wind-up victrola or Edison phonograph motor. > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Luke >Tonneberger >Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 1:15 PM >To: Engine List >Cc: stationary-engine at oldengine.org >Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification > >........................snip......................... > >What in the world is this thing for? > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-660F.JPG >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-661F.JPG >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-662F.JPG >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-664F.JPG > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Jun 14 12:16:47 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:16:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification Message-ID: <20100614191640.552B79378@smtp.wcoil.com> The XH magneto and its variants went on many applications. The spec number on the mag tells the story on a particular mag. I think Gravelys were one that used a XH. Mark Dittos to what Elden says on the last item. Definitely appears to be a record or roll player wind up piece. The coil is for an XH Wico Magneto. Thats an old number. Mark At 02:02 PM 6/14/2010, you wrote: >Luke: > >The last "Thing" is a part of a wind-up victrola or Edison phonograph motor. > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Luke >Tonneberger >Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 1:15 PM >To: Engine List >Cc: stationary-engine at oldengine.org >Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification > >........................snip......................... > >What in the world is this thing for? > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-660F.JPG >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-661F.JPG >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-662F.JPG >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-664F.JPG > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Jun 14 12:33:43 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:33:43 +0200 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100614211306.02924520@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi All, The lists are a bit quiet so I do not feel too bad about another "Off Topic" post. A few months back a friend flew over my home and took this pic. To get back "On Topic" - if you look carefully you will notice 2 engines but they are under grey tarps (unlike the Roysters "blue" tarps). Then, if you look very carefully just to the bottom of my house, on a concrete slab next to a tree is a "pink" dot - well that's the Witte CD under a "Red tarp". Yes, that really is me standing in the centre of the pic with a camera - right there next to the cat :-) Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Jun 14 12:47:48 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:47:48 +0200 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100614214627.028a52c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Well, that was rather stupid was it not !! I forgot the link - here it is: Keep well jerry Hi All, The lists are a bit quiet so I do not feel too bad about another "Off Topic" post. A few months back a friend flew over my home and took this pic. To get back "On Topic" - if you look carefully you will notice 2 engines but they are under grey tarps (unlike the Roysters "blue" tarps). Then, if you look very carefully just to the bottom of my house, on a concrete slab next to a tree is a "pink" dot - well that's the Witte CD under a "Red tarp". Yes, that really is me standing in the centre of the pic with a camera - right there next to the cat :-) Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From rotigel at me.com Mon Jun 14 13:09:20 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:09:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100614214627.028a52c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100614214627.028a52c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <1B4FAAFE-5341-45C6-A031-EB3D678823EA@me.com> VERY NICE homestead Jerry! Dave PS, Are those two black guys under the trees down by the river your gardeners? On Jun 14, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Jerry Evans wrote: > Well, that was rather stupid was it not !! I forgot the link - here > it is: > > Keep well > jerry > > > Hi All, > The lists are a bit quiet so I do not feel too bad about > another > "Off Topic" post. > > A few months back a friend flew over my home and took this > pic. > > To get back "On Topic" - if you look carefully you will > notice 2 > engines but they are under grey tarps (unlike the Roysters "blue" > tarps). > Then, if you look very carefully just to the bottom of my house, on a > concrete slab next to a tree is a "pink" dot - well that's the Witte > CD > under a "Red tarp". > > Yes, that really is me standing in the centre of the pic > with a > camera - right there next to the cat :-) > > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Mon Jun 14 13:21:36 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:21:36 EDT Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. Message-ID: <4ecd6.6de8c84b.3947e950@aol.com> Nice photos of a nice place! What type business is across the road? Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From rotigel at me.com Mon Jun 14 15:03:58 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:03:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. In-Reply-To: <4ecd6.6de8c84b.3947e950@aol.com> References: <4ecd6.6de8c84b.3947e950@aol.com> Message-ID: <13F1C0F6-92C5-49DD-8E68-CFDB7F5BA22B@me.com> Hi Tom, Jerry owns that business as well. I've been told that it's a motel--that charges by the hour! It's a secret, so don't tell anyone, that's why I've sent this to you off LIST! Dave On Jun 14, 2010, at 4:21 PM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > Nice photos of a nice place! What type business is across the road? > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Jun 14 15:12:01 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:12:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100614214627.028a52c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: I especially like the bunker next to the engines. You know, the one with the .50 on the parapet. :-) Hmmm ...... Do I see shell craters in the street across from your entrance gate? Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:48 PM Hi All, The lists are a bit quiet so I do not feel too bad about another "Off Topic" post. From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Jun 14 16:52:29 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:52:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100614214627.028a52c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <00a401cb0c1c$a686a290$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Jerry, You must be related to us after all, I have both blue and gray tarps! Nice place you have there "cuzin." Mike (the fewer tarps than last year) Royster ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Evans" To: ; Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:47 PM Subject: O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > Well, that was rather stupid was it not !! I forgot the link - here it is: > > Keep well > jerry > > > Hi All, > The lists are a bit quiet so I do not feel too bad about another > "Off Topic" post. > > A few months back a friend flew over my home and took this pic. > > To get back "On Topic" - if you look carefully you will notice 2 > engines but they are under grey tarps (unlike the Roysters "blue" tarps). > Then, if you look very carefully just to the bottom of my house, on a > concrete slab next to a tree is a "pink" dot - well that's the Witte CD > under a "Red tarp". > > Yes, that really is me standing in the centre of the pic with a > camera - right there next to the cat :-) > > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > To UN-subscribe, send a message to: > > stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org > with: > unsubscribe > in the subject of the message. Nothing else, no SIGs, etc. From falcon at telenet.net Mon Jun 14 18:35:16 2010 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:35:16 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100614211306.02924520@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100614211306.02924520@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <4C16D8D4.9060800@telenet.net> Jerry Evans wrote: > Hi All, > The lists are a bit quiet so I do not feel too bad about another > "Off Topic" post. > > A few months back a friend flew over my home and took this pic. > > To get back "On Topic" - if you look carefully you will notice 2 > engines but they are under grey tarps (unlike the Roysters "blue" tarps). > Then, if you look very carefully just to the bottom of my house, on a > concrete slab next to a tree is a "pink" dot - well that's the Witte CD > under a "Red tarp". > > Yes, that really is me standing in the centre of the pic with a > camera - right there next to the cat :-) > > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Nice place. How much area do you own? Who's the blonde sunbathing topless next to the river ???? -- Steve W. From Germoamer at aol.com Tue Jun 15 04:30:59 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 07:30:59 EDT Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. Message-ID: <44a6a.2c639c45.3948be73@aol.com> In a message dated 6/14/2010 6:09:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rotigel at me.com writes: that's why I've sent this to you off LIST! Dave, Thanks for letting me know that was off list. Being computer illiterate, I have a hard time distinguishing what is on and off list. Sorry to miss the SIAM show this year. Went to Alaska instead! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From George_Best at adp.com Tue Jun 15 10:49:35 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:49:35 -0500 Subject: [SEL] I'm back In-Reply-To: References: , , <65c2cf3793d56103299b58b38affd693.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D5E237C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> I unsubscribed for a couple of weeks while I was on vacation. Resubscribed today and haven't seen a single message posted so far. Is SEL just really quiet now or am I not subscribed? George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Jun 15 11:12:01 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:12:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] I'm back In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D5E237C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: George: Since I didn't get the message below and you didn't get my reply (here), I guess you are a member in good standing of the Rusty Cyberspace Gang. Shhh ........ Nobody say a thing! I think we've got 'ol George fooled, heh, heh. :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:50 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] I'm back I unsubscribed for a couple of weeks while I was on vacation. Resubscribed today and haven't seen a single message posted so far. Is SEL just really quiet now or am I not subscribed? George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Tue Jun 15 11:35:53 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:35:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] I'm back In-Reply-To: References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D5E237C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D5E2545@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Elden, Since I did receive my own posting to SEL, I knew it was working ;-) But must say it certainly is quiet today. Prior to vacation it was also getting to be pretty quiet on the list. Seems like list participation is declining and you have to go to Smokstak to see any postings. I know that show season slows us down some as people are on the road or at the show, but you'd think there would be some discussion about what they thought of the shows or what they saw. I would have liked to been able to go to a show this coming weekend, but having just returned from a couple weeks in Italy and having 9hrs of time difference to adjust to, plus catching up on all the things that didn't get done the past couple of weeks, I'll have to skip this show. The 24th I will head to California (800+ miles each way) to attend the EDGE&TA National Show. Should be a really good show and I'm looking forward to being there although the 800+ plus mile drive isn't something I'm looking forward to since I have to do it in a straight one day shot each way. Don't have enough extra vacation time to make it a two day drive each way :-( George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Elden Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:12 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] I'm back George: Since I didn't get the message below and you didn't get my reply (here), I guess you are a member in good standing of the Rusty Cyberspace Gang. Shhh ........ Nobody say a thing! I think we've got 'ol George fooled, heh, heh. :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:50 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] I'm back I unsubscribed for a couple of weeks while I was on vacation. Resubscribed today and haven't seen a single message posted so far. Is SEL just really quiet now or am I not subscribed? George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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From langer5 at xplornet.ca Tue Jun 15 11:38:08 2010 From: langer5 at xplornet.ca (Larry Anger) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:38:08 -0400 Subject: [SEL] I'm back In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D5E237C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: , , <65c2cf3793d56103299b58b38affd693.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D5E237C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <835FED1FB05A4280BE1E301D05881017@larryf92159205> George - the list has been quite quiet lately. My son and I just got back from Europe a couple weeks ago. We had a good time. Went to the Nuenen show first then down into Germany, Luxembourg, Southern Holland, and Belgium. The last two nights we stayed in a hotel near the airport. On the Saturday we took the bus into Central Station and spent the entire day in Amsterdam and bought a ticket for the water bus so we could get on and off as we wanted in various areas of the city. It was my first time to Amsterdam and enjoyed the time there. We really got to do a lot of stuff in the 10 days we were in Europe. It was basically a EHOWT also because we had a car and tried to see as much as possible in the allowed time. We did get to Harry's place and ate Shwarma in the same little restaurant as last time. We got to Bert's place so my son could see his toys. We also went to visit Huub Van de Ven one night during the show. One thing I noticed George last week when I was in London, Ontario which is just 35 minutes from my house, that there are all kinds of little restaurants advertising that they have Shwarma. Until last year on the trip I had never heard of Shawarma before. In reality it is all around me. Larry. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:50 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] I'm back I unsubscribed for a couple of weeks while I was on vacation. Resubscribed today and haven't seen a single message posted so far. Is SEL just really quiet now or am I not subscribed? George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Tue Jun 15 11:46:37 2010 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:46:37 -0700 Subject: [SEL] I'm back References: , , <65c2cf3793d56103299b58b38affd693.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D5E237C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <7941E7D5DD0849199EE95AD2F3DF01E4@Desktop> You are subscribed fine, just quiet at the moment. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes jd.kirkes at verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Best, George" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: [SEL] I'm back I unsubscribed for a couple of weeks while I was on vacation. Resubscribed today and haven't seen a single message posted so far. Is SEL just really quiet now or am I not subscribed? George From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Jun 15 12:00:56 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:00:56 +0200 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615205635.00cd8900@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 15/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 8 >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:09:20 -0400 >From: David Rotigel >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. >To: The SEL email discussion list >Message-ID: <1B4FAAFE-5341-45C6-A031-EB3D678823EA at me.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > >VERY NICE homestead Jerry! > Dave >PS, Are those two black guys under the trees down by the river your >gardeners? Hi Dave, Thanks for your comment. If you are referring to the 2 (not so pale) guys, 1 who is sleeping on his shovel and the other who is siphoning petrol out of my tractor (to steal) - yes then they probably are my gardeners :-) Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Jun 15 12:04:47 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:04:47 +0200 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615210130.00cd9570@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 15/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 10 >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:03:58 -0400 >From: David Rotigel >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. >To: The SEL email discussion list >Message-ID: <13F1C0F6-92C5-49DD-8E68-CFDB7F5BA22B at me.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > >Hi Tom, Jerry owns that business as well. I've been told that it's a >motel--that charges by the hour! It's a secret, so don't tell anyone, >that's why I've sent this to you off LIST! > Dave > >On Jun 14, 2010, at 4:21 PM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > > > Nice photos of a nice place! What type business is across the road? Thanks Tom, Dave, damn, I told you that in confidence now you've blown everything!!!!! Daleside Home for Wayward Girls and Wanton Women, If you're "a wantin" we're "a givin" Chief Interviewer - Jerry Evans From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Jun 15 12:11:16 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:11:16 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 75, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615210507.00ce0f50@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 15/06/2010, you wrote: >From: "Elden" >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. >Jerry: > >I especially like the bunker next to the engines. You know, the one with >the .50 on the parapet. :-) > >Hmmm ...... Do I see shell craters in the street across from your entrance >gate? > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand Hi Elden, Thanks but now that this new govmunt has taken away our guns the best I have is a large catapult!! Those craters? Well, it's amazing what you can do with aerosol cans and Chinese fireworks :-) Keep well, Jerry From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Jun 15 12:13:58 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:13:58 +0200 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615211149.00cf2d00@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 15/06/2010, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:52:29 -0400 >From: "Mike Royster" >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > >Jerry, > > You must be related to us after all, I have both blue and gray tarps! >Nice place you have there "cuzin." > >Mike (the fewer tarps than last year) Royster Howdy Mike, Thanks, but do you have a red tarp? :-) keep well, Jerry From mr at carolina.rr.com Tue Jun 15 12:23:57 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:23:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] I'm back References: , , <65c2cf3793d56103299b58b38affd693.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D5E237C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <835FED1FB05A4280BE1E301D05881017@larryf92159205> Message-ID: <002201cb0cc0$4d6e00a0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Sounds like both you gents had a great time! Steve and I are leaving now for Coolspring so pictures to come! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Anger" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] I'm back > George - the list has been quite quiet lately. My son and I just got back > from Europe a couple weeks ago. We had a good time. Went to the Nuenen > show > first then down into Germany, Luxembourg, Southern Holland, and Belgium. > The > last two nights we stayed in a hotel near the airport. On the Saturday we > took the bus into Central Station and spent the entire day in Amsterdam > and > bought a ticket for the water bus so we could get on and off as we wanted > in > various areas of the city. It was my first time to Amsterdam and enjoyed > the > time there. We really got to do a lot of stuff in the 10 days we were in > Europe. It was basically a EHOWT also because we had a car and tried to > see > as much as possible in the allowed time. We did get to Harry's place and > ate > Shwarma in the same little restaurant as last time. We got to Bert's place > so my son could see his toys. We also went to visit Huub Van de Ven one > night during the show. One thing I noticed George last week when I was in > London, Ontario which is just 35 minutes from my house, that there are all > kinds of little restaurants advertising that they have Shwarma. Until last > year on the trip I had never heard of Shawarma before. In reality it is > all > around me. > > Larry. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:50 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: [SEL] I'm back > > I unsubscribed for a couple of weeks while I was on vacation. > Resubscribed > today and haven't seen a single message posted so far. > > Is SEL just really quiet now or am I not subscribed? > > George > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized > representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by > e-mail > and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Jun 15 12:23:33 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:23:33 +0200 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615211432.00cf9610@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 15/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 13 >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:35:16 -0400 >From: "Steve W." >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > >Nice place. How much area do you own? >Who's the blonde sunbathing topless next to the river ????-- >Steve W. Hi Gene, Thanks. Not soooooo big - just under 5 acres - a very common size here. The area in the photo covered by the trees and river takes up more than half of it but is very pretty and has it's own mini ecosystem. There is quite a steep drop (not really obvious in the pic) from the edge of the tree line to the river. My house is probably about 40' to 50' foot higher than the river. I'm not sure about the blonde but the redhead is my daughter Jacqui :-) keep well, Jerry From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Jun 15 13:07:19 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:07:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] I'm back In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D5E2545@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: George: Just remember to keep on a-havin' fun! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 2:36 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] I'm back From james.kangas at timken.com Tue Jun 15 14:39:11 2010 From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:39:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615211432.00cf9610@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry, Things always sound so bad there, why don't you pack up and move to a more civilized place? Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Jerry Evans Sent: Tue 6/15/2010 3:23 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. At 06:00 PM 15/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 13 >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:35:16 -0400 >From: "Steve W." >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > >Nice place. How much area do you own? >Who's the blonde sunbathing topless next to the river ????-- >Steve W. Hi Gene, Thanks. Not soooooo big - just under 5 acres - a very common size here. The area in the photo covered by the trees and river takes up more than half of it but is very pretty and has it's own mini ecosystem. There is quite a steep drop (not really obvious in the pic) from the edge of the tree line to the river. My house is probably about 40' to 50' foot higher than the river. I'm not sure about the blonde but the redhead is my daughter Jacqui :-) keep well, Jerry _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Tue Jun 15 15:14:12 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 08:14:12 +1000 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615211432.00cf9610@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: I can answer that. My bro was engineering manager of Haggy Rand. The mine cable makers in Joburg. When the govt changed and the Rand dropped to such a low value, he, having just retired, was caught in an economic trap. As such, if he leaves there, he will be a pauper, having had the value of his money and possessions reduced to just about zero in the rest of the western world.. Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kangas, James G." To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. Jerry, Things always sound so bad there, why don't you pack up and move to a more civilized place? Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Jerry Evans Sent: Tue 6/15/2010 3:23 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. At 06:00 PM 15/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 13 >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:35:16 -0400 >From: "Steve W." >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > >Nice place. How much area do you own? >Who's the blonde sunbathing topless next to the river ????-- >Steve W. Hi Gene, Thanks. Not soooooo big - just under 5 acres - a very common size here. The area in the photo covered by the trees and river takes up more than half of it but is very pretty and has it's own mini ecosystem. There is quite a steep drop (not really obvious in the pic) from the edge of the tree line to the river. My house is probably about 40' to 50' foot higher than the river. I'm not sure about the blonde but the redhead is my daughter Jacqui :-) keep well, Jerry _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Tue Jun 15 15:31:59 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 08:31:59 +1000 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615211432.00cf9610@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: Further to, the Rand is fetching 13 US cents today. It was, at least equal back in earlier times when SA was managed in a better manner. The poverty of the black people is a major reason for all the crime. Their govt has no idea on how to raise it. They are too concerned about lining their own pockets. You agree Jerry? Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reg Ingold" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. >I can answer that. > My bro was engineering manager of Haggy Rand. The mine cable makers in > Joburg. When the govt changed and the Rand dropped to such a low value, > he, > having just retired, was caught in an economic trap. As such, if he leaves > there, he will be a pauper, having had the value of his money and > possessions reduced to just about zero in the rest of the western world.. > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle.NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kangas, James G." > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:39 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > > > Jerry, > Things always sound so bad there, why don't you pack up and move to a > more civilized place? > Jim K. > > ________________________________ > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Jerry Evans > Sent: Tue 6/15/2010 3:23 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > > > > At 06:00 PM 15/06/2010, you wrote: >>Message: 13 >>Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:35:16 -0400 >>From: "Steve W." >>Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. >> > > > >>Nice place. How much area do you own? >>Who's the blonde sunbathing topless next to the river ????-- >>Steve W. > > Hi Gene, > Thanks. Not soooooo big - just under 5 acres - a very common size > here. The area in the photo covered by the trees and river takes up more > than half of it but is very pretty and has it's own mini ecosystem. There > is quite a steep drop (not really obvious in the pic) from the edge of the > tree line to the river. My house is probably about 40' to 50' foot higher > than the river. > > I'm not sure about the blonde but the redhead is my daughter > Jacqui :-) > keep well, > Jerry > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or > entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please > do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to > others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, > and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The > Timken Corporation > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From james.kangas at timken.com Tue Jun 15 15:30:46 2010 From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:30:46 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615211432.00cf9610@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: So he can live O.K. if he stays there or is he living in poverty?. I'm reminded of all the immigrants who came to America with little or nothing to start a new live, but I guess things were different back then. Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Reg Ingold Sent: Tue 6/15/2010 6:14 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. I can answer that. My bro was engineering manager of Haggy Rand. The mine cable makers in Joburg. When the govt changed and the Rand dropped to such a low value, he, having just retired, was caught in an economic trap. As such, if he leaves there, he will be a pauper, having had the value of his money and possessions reduced to just about zero in the rest of the western world.. Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kangas, James G." To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. Jerry, Things always sound so bad there, why don't you pack up and move to a more civilized place? Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Jerry Evans Sent: Tue 6/15/2010 3:23 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. At 06:00 PM 15/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 13 >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:35:16 -0400 >From: "Steve W." >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > >Nice place. How much area do you own? >Who's the blonde sunbathing topless next to the river ????-- >Steve W. Hi Gene, Thanks. Not soooooo big - just under 5 acres - a very common size here. The area in the photo covered by the trees and river takes up more than half of it but is very pretty and has it's own mini ecosystem. There is quite a steep drop (not really obvious in the pic) from the edge of the tree line to the river. My house is probably about 40' to 50' foot higher than the river. I'm not sure about the blonde but the redhead is my daughter Jacqui :-) keep well, Jerry _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From tchristoff at earthlink.net Tue Jun 15 15:41:27 2010 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:41:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. Message-ID: <5041221.1276641687850.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Mike doesn't need a red trap Jerry, it would clash with his pretty white tarp. Tim Christoff >> >>Mike (the fewer tarps than last year) Royster > > >Howdy Mike, > Thanks, but do you have a red tarp? :-) >keep well, >Jerry > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From jdohagan at comcast.net Wed Jun 16 09:23:26 2010 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:23:26 -0700 Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine Message-ID: <2A7F6F89D39541A2A5070E49F4488DE1@VALUED3253602F> Hello,hope someone is still home that can help me out. What's the recipe for the boiled linseed oil rub? How long does it take to dry? Thanks for any ideas, Jimmy O'Hagan From George_Best at adp.com Wed Jun 16 09:41:56 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:41:56 -0500 Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine In-Reply-To: <2A7F6F89D39541A2A5070E49F4488DE1@VALUED3253602F> References: <2A7F6F89D39541A2A5070E49F4488DE1@VALUED3253602F> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D643BEC@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Jimmy, Are you getting something ready for the National Show next week? George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:23 AM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine Hello,hope someone is still home that can help me out. What's the recipe for the boiled linseed oil rub? How long does it take to dry? Thanks for any ideas, Jimmy O'Hagan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From obise at moscow.com Wed Jun 16 09:50:25 2010 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:50:25 -0700 Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine In-Reply-To: <2A7F6F89D39541A2A5070E49F4488DE1@VALUED3253602F> References: <2A7F6F89D39541A2A5070E49F4488DE1@VALUED3253602F> Message-ID: <561833BCEB1F485CBE11E3D734CF58EE@CathyComp> Jimmy, there are probably as many recipes as there are people using the combination. I take a few glugs of boiled linseed oil and thin it down until it is very runny. I estimate it is about 25 to 50-percent linseed oil, probably the former. I wipe it on with a lint-free rag, much like a person would do when cleaning up their engine. In our climate it takes about a week to set up firmly. The linseed oil treatment brings life back to faded colors. I heartily recommend it, especially for un-restored engines. Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:23 AM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine Hello,hope someone is still home that can help me out. What's the recipe for the boiled linseed oil rub? How long does it take to dry? Thanks for any ideas, Jimmy O'Hagan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Wed Jun 16 09:57:25 2010 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:57:25 -0600 Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine In-Reply-To: <2A7F6F89D39541A2A5070E49F4488DE1@VALUED3253602F> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D643BEC@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <2A7F6F89D39541A2A5070E49F4488DE1@VALUED3253602F> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D643BEC@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: 50/50 BOILED Linseed Oil and Mineral spirits, Jimmy...maybe a day or so to dry..depending on your weather. RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Best, George" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] applied finish for engine > Jimmy, > > Are you getting something ready for the National Show next week? > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:23 AM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine > > Hello,hope someone is still home that can help me out. What's the recipe > for > the boiled linseed oil rub? How long does it take to dry? Thanks for any > ideas, Jimmy O'Hagan > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments > from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jdohagan at comcast.net Wed Jun 16 10:02:05 2010 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:02:05 -0700 Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D643BEC@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <2A7F6F89D39541A2A5070E49F4488DE1@VALUED3253602F> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D643BEC@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: Trying to ,George.It's got a Kansas "TAN" that I'd like to freshen up a little. Cya there! -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:42 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] applied finish for engine Jimmy, Are you getting something ready for the National Show next week? George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:23 AM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine Hello,hope someone is still home that can help me out. What's the recipe for the boiled linseed oil rub? How long does it take to dry? Thanks for any ideas, Jimmy O'Hagan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jdohagan at comcast.net Wed Jun 16 10:08:19 2010 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:08:19 -0700 Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine In-Reply-To: References: <2A7F6F89D39541A2A5070E49F4488DE1@VALUED3253602F><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D643BEC@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: Thanks Guys! Off to the hardware store. Sounds like ,it's better to get this stuff applied sooner than later. Cya, Jimmy -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard Strobel Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:57 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] applied finish for engine 50/50 BOILED Linseed Oil and Mineral spirits, Jimmy...maybe a day or so to dry..depending on your weather. RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Best, George" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] applied finish for engine > Jimmy, > > Are you getting something ready for the National Show next week? > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:23 AM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine > > Hello,hope someone is still home that can help me out. What's the recipe > for > the boiled linseed oil rub? How long does it take to dry? Thanks for any > ideas, Jimmy O'Hagan > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments > from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From marinesurveys at msn.com Wed Jun 16 11:37:57 2010 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:37:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Miller Falls Valve grinding Tool In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615161800.00cfb1c8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615130307.00cc2b40@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>, <5.2.1.1.2.20100615161800.00cfb1c8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: Hi Folks; A while back someone was looking for a Valve Grinding Tool. I spotted a nice one on E-Bay, same as one I have, they work well for what they are. The Item # is 220608136276 , with a day left & buy it now for $9.99 Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Jun 16 13:27:53 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 22:27:53 +0200 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100616213151.02356030@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 16/06/2010, you wrote: > >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > >I can answer that. >My bro was engineering manager of Haggy Rand. The mine cable makers in >Joburg. When the govt changed and the Rand dropped to such a low value, he, >having just retired, was caught in an economic trap. As such, if he leaves >there, he will be a pauper, having had the value of his money and >possessions reduced to just about zero in the rest of the western world.. >Reg & Marg Ingold >From: "Kangas, James G." > (I can actually spell) > >Jerry, > Things always sound so bad there, why don't you pack up and move to a >more civilized place? > Jim K. Hi James (and Reg), Reg has just answered your question better than I could have ever hoped to do. He is 100% accurate in his description of our situation. I never chose to be born into this situation but we used to have a tremendous country (and life), we were economically viable and self sufficient, we had great industries and were right up there at the top as far as "technology" was concerned. We had excellent hospitals, schools and universities, we had an excellent infrastructure (roads, railways, industry and government) until the rest of the western world decided that "Politically Correct" was the way to go. They chose to forget that the people who built this country (and many other African countries) were descended from great western nations (as was your country). They chose to be seen as "humanitarians" and "Politically Correct" arseholes and dropped us in the "brown stuff". This is an "engine list" so I think it's better that I stop here. (I could go on for pages). Suffice to say that we make the most of a bad situation because that is the only choice that we have. Thank goodness that we can appreciate something like collecting old engines and corresponding with great people worldwide with similar interests. Reg was one of the first members of this list to welcome me as a new member and I have always respected his knowledge and wisdom (and even his eccentricities). Reg has a brother who, as he mentioned, is caught in the same trap as I am (and lives less than 20 Km's. from me). Thanks Reg, you are a great mate. Yes, I probably do have a "chip on my shoulder" but it is definitely not aimed at any of the many (and great) people I have met on these lists, Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Jun 16 13:40:57 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:40:57 EDT Subject: [SEL] Miller Falls Valve grinding Tool Message-ID: <8cbbd.1c1a42df.394a90d9@aol.com> Frank, Here are a couple of pictures of my valve lapper. It is brass and steel. Works by reversing the meshing of the two gears on the vertical shaft and the 3 sets of teeth on the rotating handle gear. Sadly no name or markings anywhere. _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/valve1.jpg_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/valve1.jpg) _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/valve2.jpg_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/valve2.jpg) Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Jun 16 14:15:48 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 23:15:48 +0200 Subject: [SEL] "Aerial photo etc." Now getting VERY O.T. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100616222949.02362370@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 16/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 15 >Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 08:31:59 +1000 >From: "Reg Ingold" >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. >To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > >Further to, the Rand is fetching 13 US cents today. It was, at least equal >back in earlier times when SA was managed in a better manner. >The poverty of the black people is a major reason for all the crime. Their >govt has no idea on how to raise it. They are too concerned about lining >their own pockets. >You agree Jerry? >Reg Hi Reg, Thanks for your support - I appreciate it. Yes, in the "Old South Africa" our currency was much stronger and equal to the dollar. I also agree in part that the crime rate is to do with poverty but I think that today it has more to do with a total disregard for the "forces of law and order". Petty crime probably can be blamed on poverty but we are faced with far more serious (and violent) crime. Our South African Police force used to enjoy a lot of respect internationally as an "effective" force. You posted an article recently (albeit to Slick) about showing how this is no longer the case. That is just so true. The "masses" (and it's them who blindly carry the vote) are only interested in "false promises", "threats" and promises of Utopia. The "lot (or living standard)" of the majority of "native people" has probably got a lot worse in the last 19 years but they do realise this. Our University qualifications are no longer recognized universally. Our "Police Force" is a joke. Our "Defence Force" is also a joke (where in the world are "soldiers" allowed to go on strike and trash the capital city?). (Any list members who do not belive me are welcome to write to me and I will supply "links"). Reg, this is an engine list so I'm not going to go further. Again thanks for your support, I do appreciate a voice of reason. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Jun 16 14:22:29 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 23:22:29 +0200 Subject: [SEL] immigration In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100616231839.023536a0@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> >From: "Kangas, James G." >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > >So he can live O.K. if he stays there or is he living in poverty?. I'm >reminded of all the immigrants who came to America with little or nothing >to start a new live, but I guess things were different back then. > Jim K. James, Are you reminded of the immigrants about 200 years ago? Are you a democrat? Get with the programme - it is 2010! Jerry From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Jun 16 14:33:21 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 23:33:21 +0200 Subject: [SEL] My aerial pic Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100616232311.023b9970@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi all, Regarding my "Off Topic" post of an aerial pic of my home. Amazing how these "Off Topic" posts seem to generate so many posts! This one got a lot of replies and I apologise to all the guys and gals on the list who do not like "off topic" posts. The lists (both SEL and oldengine) were a bit quiet so it's always good to stir up something that brings up some controversy. Thanks for not complaining. My next post will be about engines I promise :-) Watch for it in a few hours!!!!!! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From obise at moscow.com Wed Jun 16 14:58:07 2010 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:58:07 -0700 Subject: [SEL] My aerial pic In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100616232311.023b9970@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100616232311.023b9970@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: There's no need for any apology, Jerry. It has been a fascinating thread. Thank goodness we're a circle of acquaintances who can be frank with one another and don't tremble in fear of the PC Police. Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 2:33 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] My aerial pic Hi all, Regarding my "Off Topic" post of an aerial pic of my home. Amazing how these "Off Topic" posts seem to generate so many posts! This one got a lot of replies and I apologise to all the guys and gals on the list who do not like "off topic" posts. The lists (both SEL and oldengine) were a bit quiet so it's always good to stir up something that brings up some controversy. Thanks for not complaining. My next post will be about engines I promise :-) Watch for it in a few hours!!!!!! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Jun 16 15:25:11 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:25:11 EDT Subject: [SEL] My aerial pic Message-ID: <3eac0.58a4e5dc.394aa947@aol.com> In a message dated 6/16/2010 6:09:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, obise at moscow.com writes: who can be frank with one another and don't tremble in fear of the PC Police. Sometimes I tremble in fear of Dave! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Jun 16 15:46:11 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 00:46:11 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Ruston HR1 pics Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100617003754.023b62a8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi all, I promised and "engine related" post within 2 hours (on the SEL List) so here it is. I was lucky enough to acquire a Ruston & Hornsby HR1 recently. Today I got a chance to take a few pics - here are the first 4. I'll update the page "as and when" - the engine has quite a few missing parts (one of those cases where a previous owner (not an engineman) decided to "fix it" but all the parts got put in boxes and ultimately got lost. For those who are interested click on this link: Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From james.kangas at timken.com Wed Jun 16 15:48:14 2010 From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:48:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] immigration References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100616231839.023536a0@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry, Not 200 years ago, maybe 100 years ago. I was thinking about my grandparents on both sides. Both came hear pretty much with the clothes on their backs. and with hard work did quite well for themselves. I work with a couple of Philippines' who scraped and saved to pay the fees to come here legally and they still work their butts off and are doing very well for themselves. I'm a conservative not a democrat. Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Jerry Evans Sent: Wed 6/16/2010 5:22 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] immigration >From: "Kangas, James G." >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > >So he can live O.K. if he stays there or is he living in poverty?. I'm >reminded of all the immigrants who came to America with little or nothing >to start a new live, but I guess things were different back then. > Jim K. James, Are you reminded of the immigrants about 200 years ago? Are you a democrat? Get with the programme - it is 2010! Jerry _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Jun 16 19:56:18 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 22:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] My aerial pic In-Reply-To: <3eac0.58a4e5dc.394aa947@aol.com> References: <3eac0.58a4e5dc.394aa947@aol.com> Message-ID: Hah. Dave's a pussycat. Just ask Dolly. 8-)) On Wed, June 16, 2010 6:25 pm, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > Sometimes I tremble in fear of Dave! From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Jun 16 20:25:05 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:25:05 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Witte headless parts wanted Message-ID: <20100616.202533.1097.177778@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> Hi all. my 12 hp headless Witte is missing the parts to change the speed. Do any of you have spare parts or parts I could borrow to have cast or make? I need the speeder fork, speeder bracket, nut, spring and stem. Thanks. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c1995e2dfe31477f82st01vuc From cgandree at mchsi.com Thu Jun 17 03:29:22 2010 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 05:29:22 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] SAD NEWS Message-ID: <1463260599.3758611276770562648.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Hi All, Just received word from Peter Lowe that his Mother passed away. Our Deepest sympathy to Peter and his family during this time of sorrow. Curt & Becky Andree From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu Jun 17 03:58:57 2010 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:58:57 +1000 Subject: [SEL] SAD NEWS In-Reply-To: <1463260599.3758611276770562648.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: <1463260599.3758611276770562648.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <7E5B373D72DD47A69FA5C0B86047A344@KerryPC> That is indeed sad news, thanks Curt Kerry From flywheelin at hotmail.com Thu Jun 17 04:36:58 2010 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:36:58 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Thanks Elden! I'm impressed. I never would have guessed that. Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ---------------------------------------- > From: edurand at mchsi.com > > Luke: > > The last "Thing" is a part of a wind-up victrola or Edison phonograph motor. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Luke > Tonneberger > > ........................snip......................... > > What in the world is this thing for? > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-660F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-661F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-662F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-664F.JPG > _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From flywheelin at hotmail.com Thu Jun 17 04:39:30 2010 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:39:30 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification In-Reply-To: <20100614191640.552B79378@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20100614191640.552B79378@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Thanks Mark. Now to find someone that needs these things...... Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ---------------------------------------- > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:16:47 -0400 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > From: frappi at wcoil.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification > > The XH magneto and its variants went on many applications. The spec > number on the mag tells the story on a particular mag. I think > Gravelys were one that used a XH. Mark > > > Dittos to what Elden says on the last item. Definitely appears to be > a record or roll player wind up piece. The coil is for an XH Wico > Magneto. Thats an old number. Mark > > > At 02:02 PM 6/14/2010, you wrote: >>Luke: >> >>The last "Thing" is a part of a wind-up victrola or Edison phonograph motor. >> >>Take care - Elden >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Luke >>Tonneberger >> >>........................snip......................... >> >>What in the world is this thing for? >> >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-660F.JPG >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-661F.JPG >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-662F.JPG >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-664F.JPG >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Mark Shulaw > 454 County Road 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From flywheelin at hotmail.com Thu Jun 17 04:45:48 2010 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:45:48 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification In-Reply-To: <58C53D7BAC244898A8F742F715EA8EDD@HomeDesktop2> References: , <58C53D7BAC244898A8F742F715EA8EDD@HomeDesktop2> Message-ID: Hi Les, The inlet and outlet have threaded holes on the second item with the IHC logo. I don't think rubber hoses hooked up to it. I was hoping someone would be able to look up the part number that is casted into it and be able to tell what engine it came off of. The governor looking thingy was identified as part of a Victrola or Edison phonograph wind up motor. Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ---------------------------------------- > From: spiveylk at gru.net > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Subject: Re: Need Help With Parts Identification > Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:52:17 -0400 > > The 2nd one looks more like a water pump. The connection ends look like > they are for rubber hose. The fourth one looks like some type of adjustable > governor. Must be fairly low speed as there isn't much bearing surface. > As to what either one is for, I have no idea. Les > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Luke Tonneberger" > > > Looks like a fuel pump, what engine would it go on? > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-668F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG > > > > > Looks like an IHC fuel pump, what engine would it go on? > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-676F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-677F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-674F.JPG > > > Luke Tonneberger > Rockford, Michigan > USA _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From flywheelin at hotmail.com Thu Jun 17 04:49:53 2010 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:49:53 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Hi Tommy, I didn't see an IH logo on the first item below. The size of the second one is quite substantial so it must be off of a larger engine. I'll have to do some searching online to see if I can find something..... Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ---------------------------------------- > From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:00 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification > > Luke, > Not sure but could this possibly be off of a Mogul? Some of the > IH guys will know for sure. > > Looks like a fuel pump, what engine would it go on? > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-668F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG > > > > You might have to give some additional dimensions although the IH guys > can look it up on the parts listing and tell you. Its for an engine, > could be the 4, 6, 8, 10 etc horizontals or if it?s a small pump for the > 2 ? Famous. > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-676F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-677F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-674F.JPG > > Luke Tonneberger > Rockford, Michigan > USA > _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From flywheelin at hotmail.com Thu Jun 17 08:30:16 2010 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:30:16 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2008 Show Pictures Message-ID: Catching up on creating web pages of show pictures. Here is what I have from Portland 2008. http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/port08/portland2008.html Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Jun 17 09:09:26 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:09:26 EDT Subject: [SEL] Portland 2008 Show Pictures Message-ID: <189f7.55bb9387.394ba2b6@aol.com> Luke, Some great photos of nice engines. Photo 502, Springfield, what is happening with the brass tube going into the vertical red pipe? Is that where gas is injected? Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Jun 17 14:46:17 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:46:17 EDT Subject: [SEL] gas tank help Message-ID: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> My kerosene tank under the Famous engine has 100 years of gunk in it. Probably a good 3/16 inch layer on the bottom side. The only access is thru a 1 1/2 inch pipe flange adapter on one side at one end. The tank is 9 tall x 13 wide x 40 long. About 1/3 from each end is a pipe going from top to bottom and is where the mounting bolts go thru the tank to hold in place. So, putting a chain in it and sloshing around does not work due to the thru pipes getting in the way. I can put a long scraper thru the pipe flange on the end and scrape lots of nice gunk! I can only scrape from one side to the other and for a distance down length of a few inches. The gunk is pretty dense and hard from all the years. What I am thinking about doing is to cut a hole on the top side in the middle about 3x3 to access the tank. I believe with this I can scrape the majority of the tank bottom and up the sides an inch or so. After doing that, then use gas/etc., and some rocks/nuts//chain, I can then rock it for a while and get most of the junk scraped out. Having this access hole would ensure getting all the cleaning parts out. Next make a new cover, JB Weld with pop rivets. Next put in tank sealer everywhere. Anyone ever done this or have a better idea? The gunk in the bottom is starting to give me running problems. Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Jun 17 15:22:07 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:22:07 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification Message-ID: Luke The phonograph casting is not Edison, Victor or Columbia. It looks like it could be a Thorens or Garrad motor. I will look around some more. The casting is worth nothing as they do not break or wear, I'd just keep the speed control assembly & the governor, and all the screws & bearings that go with it. These are often inter-changable between motors, and it's always good to have a matched set of 3 weights & springs on hand, as they would fit many other brands of motors too. Peter, Oz > I have several parts listed here and would like to indentify them. Can > you help?? > > > Looks like a fuel pump, what engine would it go on? > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-668F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG > > > > > Looks like an IHC fuel pump, what engine would it go on? > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-676F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-677F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-674F.JPG > > > > > What engine would this coil go to or on? > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-652F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-653F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-655F.JPG > > > > > > What in the world is this thing for? > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-660F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-661F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-662F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-664F.JPG > > > > Luke Tonneberger > Rockford, Michigan > USA > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your > inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 > To UN-subscribe, send a message to: > > stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org > with: > unsubscribe > in the subject of the message. Nothing else, no SIGs, etc. > > > > To UN-subscribe, send a message to: > > stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org > with: > unsubscribe > in the subject of the message. Nothing else, no SIGs, etc. > From r7734g at hotmail.com Thu Jun 17 15:54:32 2010 From: r7734g at hotmail.com (Ron Gerlach) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:54:32 -0700 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help In-Reply-To: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> References: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> Message-ID: Tom Put in some small pebbles and sand along with an entire can of kitchen cleanser and enough water to cover all the added abrasives; maybe 1/3 full. Agitate as best you can. You do something as simple as put it in the back of your truck or car trunk and drive around with the concoction for a week before dumping it out. A thorough cleaning with water and de-greaser after wards should leave you with a fairly clean tank. If not repeat, a second or third time. Ron > From: Germoamer at aol.com > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:46:17 -0400 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] gas tank help > > My kerosene tank under the Famous engine has 100 years of gunk in it. > Probably a good 3/16 inch layer on the bottom side. The only access is thru a > 1 1/2 inch pipe flange adapter on one side at one end. The tank is 9 tall > x 13 wide x 40 long. About 1/3 from each end is a pipe going from top to > bottom and is where the mounting bolts go thru the tank to hold in place. > So, putting a chain in it and sloshing around does not work due to the thru > pipes getting in the way. I can put a long scraper thru the pipe flange > on the end and scrape lots of nice gunk! I can only scrape from one side to > the other and for a distance down length of a few inches. The gunk is > pretty dense and hard from all the years. > > What I am thinking about doing is to cut a hole on the top side in the > middle about 3x3 to access the tank. I believe with this I can scrape the > majority of the tank bottom and up the sides an inch or so. After doing that, > then use gas/etc., and some rocks/nuts//chain, I can then rock it for a > while and get most of the junk scraped out. Having this access hole would > ensure getting all the cleaning parts out. > > Next make a new cover, JB Weld with pop rivets. Next put in tank sealer > everywhere. > > Anyone ever done this or have a better idea? The gunk in the bottom is > starting to give me running problems. > > Thanks, > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From nancydick at pennswoods.net Thu Jun 17 16:11:11 2010 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:11:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help In-Reply-To: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> References: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> Message-ID: <4c1aac16.8201df0a.10e1.ffff8214@mx.google.com> Tom did you try putting some lacquer thinner in it. I would try about a gallon and cover or close up as tite as you can let sit a day and see what you have. R Fink PA At 05:46 PM 6/17/2010 -0400, you wrote: >My kerosene tank under the Famous engine has 100 years of gunk in it. >Probably a good 3/16 inch layer on the bottom side. The only access >is thru a >1 1/2 inch pipe flange adapter on one side at one end. The tank is 9 tall >x 13 wide x 40 long. About 1/3 from each end is a pipe going from top to >bottom and is where the mounting bolts go thru the tank to hold in place. >So, putting a chain in it and sloshing around does not work due to the thru >pipes getting in the way. I can put a long scraper thru the pipe flange >on the end and scrape lots of nice gunk! I can only scrape from one side to >the other and for a distance down length of a few inches. The gunk is >pretty dense and hard from all the years. > >What I am thinking about doing is to cut a hole on the top side in the >middle about 3x3 to access the tank. I believe with this I can scrape the >majority of the tank bottom and up the sides an inch or so. After >doing that, >then use gas/etc., and some rocks/nuts//chain, I can then rock it for a >while and get most of the junk scraped out. Having this access hole would >ensure getting all the cleaning parts out. > >Next make a new cover, JB Weld with pop rivets. Next put in tank sealer >everywhere. > >Anyone ever done this or have a better idea? The gunk in the bottom is >starting to give me running problems. > >Thanks, > >Tom Schmutz >Concord, Va. >germoamer at AOL.com >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Jun 17 16:18:37 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:18:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help In-Reply-To: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> Message-ID: Tom: You can dissolve a lot of that stuff (and rust and your eyes and skin) by using sodium hydroxide, commonly known as lye or caustic soda. It can be found in the detergent section of some stores under the brand name "Red Devil". You can also get it at a chemical supply house. Use caution with this stuff. It will burn your skin something fierce if you get any of it on you. It is exothermic. In other words, when you mix the dry chemical with water, it will get HOT and boil until the reaction with the water is complete. What I've done is to (outside!!!!) put the tank on the ground and, while it is still dry of water, pour in a generous amount of the caustic soda. Then, with a hose, VERY CAREFULLY fill the tank (be ready to jump back if it starts spewing) about half full and then just let it sit for a day or two, giving it a careful slosh once in a while. The caustic soda will go after rust and most petroleum products like grease and paint but will not attack the clean metal after the rust is gone so you can just let it sit for a while. Remember hot dip tanks at radiator shops and engine rebuilders' places. They used caustic soda. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Germoamer at aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:46 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] gas tank help My kerosene tank under the Famous engine has 100 years of gunk in it. Probably a good 3/16 inch layer on the bottom side. The only access is thru a 1 1/2 inch pipe flange adapter on one side at one end. The tank is 9 tall x 13 wide x 40 long. About 1/3 from each end is a pipe going from top to bottom and is where the mounting bolts go thru the tank to hold in place. So, putting a chain in it and sloshing around does not work due to the thru pipes getting in the way. I can put a long scraper thru the pipe flange on the end and scrape lots of nice gunk! I can only scrape from one side to the other and for a distance down length of a few inches. The gunk is pretty dense and hard from all the years. What I am thinking about doing is to cut a hole on the top side in the middle about 3x3 to access the tank. I believe with this I can scrape the majority of the tank bottom and up the sides an inch or so. After doing that, then use gas/etc., and some rocks/nuts//chain, I can then rock it for a while and get most of the junk scraped out. Having this access hole would ensure getting all the cleaning parts out. Next make a new cover, JB Weld with pop rivets. Next put in tank sealer everywhere. Anyone ever done this or have a better idea? The gunk in the bottom is starting to give me running problems. Thanks, Tom Schmutz From don.h at wcoil.com Thu Jun 17 16:43:28 2010 From: don.h at wcoil.com (Don Heringhaus) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:43:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help In-Reply-To: References: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> Message-ID: <31FDB79A2E574CDB9AA1210835CE517A@gusPC> The only way to do it and the easy way put a handful of dry wall screws in the tank wrap the tank in a old blanket tie the blanket or duck tape it down Then take it to your local paint store and put in on the 5 gallon shaker it will make it just like new inside. You might have to move the tank upside down to get all the tank clean it really works good best of all you don't have any sand that will gum up your carb for years. I have done a lot of tanks this way ,Cushman's,lawn mowers,hit and miss engines then go get some sealer and seal the inside because your sure to open up a rust spot so fix it right.. Don in Ohio From bboyce at swat.coop Thu Jun 17 16:52:00 2010 From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:52:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help In-Reply-To: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> References: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> Message-ID: <73E8BF0C1CEE43E588301093BFF42EA5@billPC> acetone, or laquer thinner really works wonders on gas tank build up,,,that would be the least expensive and easiest first attempt at cleaning it,,,, bill boyce ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [SEL] gas tank help > My kerosene tank under the Famous engine has 100 years of gunk in it. > Probably a good 3/16 inch layer on the bottom side. The only access is > thru a > 1 1/2 inch pipe flange adapter on one side at one end. The tank is 9 > tall > x 13 wide x 40 long. About 1/3 from each end is a pipe going from top to > bottom and is where the mounting bolts go thru the tank to hold in place. > So, putting a chain in it and sloshing around does not work due to the > thru > pipes getting in the way. I can put a long scraper thru the pipe flange > on the end and scrape lots of nice gunk! I can only scrape from one side > to > the other and for a distance down length of a few inches. The gunk is > pretty dense and hard from all the years. > > What I am thinking about doing is to cut a hole on the top side in the > middle about 3x3 to access the tank. I believe with this I can scrape the > majority of the tank bottom and up the sides an inch or so. After doing > that, > then use gas/etc., and some rocks/nuts//chain, I can then rock it for a > while and get most of the junk scraped out. Having this access hole > would > ensure getting all the cleaning parts out. > > Next make a new cover, JB Weld with pop rivets. Next put in tank sealer > everywhere. > > Anyone ever done this or have a better idea? The gunk in the bottom is > starting to give me running problems. > > Thanks, > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rex002 at centurytel.net Thu Jun 17 17:20:52 2010 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:20:52 -0500 Subject: [SEL] My Hit Miss Engine Message-ID: <2841C5318B0D47488197D82B357743EA@homebase> Hey Everyone check out my Economy on You Tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkIOEU7yLMg From rex002 at centurytel.net Thu Jun 17 17:27:53 2010 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:27:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help References: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> Message-ID: Tom Do you have a radiator shop with an ultra sound cleaner near you , our local shop uses it to clean radiators and it removes all the gunk , Just a thought Rex Hinz ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [SEL] gas tank help > My kerosene tank under the Famous engine has 100 years of gunk in it. > Probably a good 3/16 inch layer on the bottom side. The only access is > thru a > > Anyone ever done this or have a better idea? The gunk in the bottom is > starting to give me running problems. > > Thanks, > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2944 - Release Date: 06/17/10 06:33:00 From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Jun 17 17:33:16 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:33:16 EDT Subject: [SEL] gas tank help Message-ID: <386c7.39e6023c.394c18cc@aol.com> Don, Being 40 inches long, and have not calculated it but probably close to 10 gallons, it might will not work on the paint shaker. I am going to try a number of ideas before I cut it open. Thanks Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Jun 17 17:34:47 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:34:47 EDT Subject: [SEL] gas tank help Message-ID: <387fa.33ec6d0a.394c1927@aol.com> Bill, Gallon lacquer thinner in it right now soaking for the night along with a dozen large steel nuts to shake up. Thanks Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Jun 17 17:36:32 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:36:32 EDT Subject: [SEL] gas tank help Message-ID: <38985.2aa8464e.394c1990@aol.com> In a message dated 6/17/2010 8:29:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rex002 at centurytel.net writes: Do you have a radiator shop with an ultra sound cleaner near you Rex, May do some calling around tomorrow and see. Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Jun 17 17:39:15 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:39:15 EDT Subject: [SEL] gas tank help Message-ID: <38b92.22123f3e.394c1a33@aol.com> In a message dated 6/17/2010 6:59:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, r7734g at hotmail.com writes: You do something as simple as put it in the back of your truck or car trunk and drive around with the concoction for a week before dumping it out Be a good idea to let the wife drive the truck with tank in back. My father used to say she drove like a "bat out of hell"! Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Jun 17 17:40:02 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:40:02 EDT Subject: [SEL] gas tank help Message-ID: <38c3a.2fa2c508.394c1a62@aol.com> In a message dated 6/17/2010 6:59:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, r7734g at hotmail.com writes: entire can of kitchen cleanser and Ron, What type of cleanser are you thinking about? Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Jun 17 17:46:43 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:46:43 -0400 Subject: [SEL] My Hit Miss Engine In-Reply-To: <2841C5318B0D47488197D82B357743EA@homebase> Message-ID: Nice! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Jun 17 17:51:33 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:51:33 -0400 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help In-Reply-To: <386c7.39e6023c.394c18cc@aol.com> Message-ID: Tom: I just had a thought. If you have a tractor that has rear wheels big enough, just fill the tank with the solvent of your choice and a handful of nuts and washers then duck tape the tank to one of the tractor wheels. After you mow the north forty, you should have a pretty good idea if it will work. By the way, depending on what mechanical shape your tractor is in, you may or may not be able to tell the difference between the sound of the junk rattling around inside the tank and the sound of the tractor. :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Germoamer at aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:33 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help Don, Being 40 inches long, and have not calculated it but probably close to 10 gallons, it might will not work on the paint shaker. I am going to try a number of ideas before I cut it open. From r7734g at hotmail.com Thu Jun 17 18:13:50 2010 From: r7734g at hotmail.com (Ron Gerlach) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:13:50 -0700 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help In-Reply-To: <38c3a.2fa2c508.394c1a62@aol.com> References: <38c3a.2fa2c508.394c1a62@aol.com> Message-ID: Tom I use Ajax scouring cleanser. http://www.hardwareandtools.com/Colgate-Palmolive-05361-Ajax-21-Ounce-Cleanser-6721468.html They also make "NON SCRATCHING" formulas which you do not want. You want the abrasive action. Ron > From: Germoamer at aol.com > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:40:02 -0400 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help > > > In a message dated 6/17/2010 6:59:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > r7734g at hotmail.com writes: > > entire can of kitchen cleanser and > > > Ron, > > What type of cleanser are you thinking about? > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From don.h at wcoil.com Thu Jun 17 20:11:11 2010 From: don.h at wcoil.com (Don) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:11:11 -0500 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help In-Reply-To: <386c7.39e6023c.394c18cc@aol.com> References: <386c7.39e6023c.394c18cc@aol.com> Message-ID: <1C96F70254254ED4BEEFB69D2407E4A6@DonPC> ok on the size I cleaned a tank out of a Cushman trickster that was bigger then that a 5 gal shaker is a big shaker that moves slowly not like a 1 gallon can shaker that go's 1000mph hi hi I let it shake about 30 minuets on a side.. don -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:33 PM To: Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help > Don, > > Being 40 inches long, and have not calculated it but probably close to 10 > gallons, it might will not work on the paint shaker. I am going to try a > number of ideas before I cut it open. > > > Thanks > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From camaned at iinet.net.au Fri Jun 18 03:25:38 2010 From: camaned at iinet.net.au (Cam Grundy) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 20:25:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT Message-ID: Hi, one for the Aussies. Well we finally got our new club up and running which is the Central Coast Machinery Club inc it all happened on Wed night, there was a great turn out ( 42 signed the book ) and we finished up with 28 members and more to come, So now we will have to start setting a show or two. More to come Later. Cam. Cam and Edwina Grundy Kariong NSW 2250 AUS From alanwh at iinet.net.au Fri Jun 18 03:36:26 2010 From: alanwh at iinet.net.au (Alan Wheaton) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 20:36:26 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5A6DDB02D86E4FBD82D30E869474265E@shack> Great Cam We will keep in touch Alan Subject: [SEL] New Club OT Hi, one for the Aussies. Well we finally got our new club up and running which is the Central Coast Machinery Club inc it all happened on Wed night, there was a great turn out ( 42 signed the book ) and we finished up with 28 members and more to come, So now we will have to start setting a show or two. More to come Later. Cam. Cam and Edwina Grundy Kariong NSW 2250 AUS _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From camaned at iinet.net.au Fri Jun 18 03:44:41 2010 From: camaned at iinet.net.au (Cam Grundy) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 20:44:41 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT In-Reply-To: <5A6DDB02D86E4FBD82D30E869474265E@shack> References: <5A6DDB02D86E4FBD82D30E869474265E@shack> Message-ID: <00B1E183DC004E589047F4BF2461778B@CamPC> Thanks Al, I will Mate. Cam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Wheaton" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] New Club OT > > Great Cam > We will keep in touch > > Alan > > > > Subject: [SEL] New Club OT > > Hi, one for the Aussies. Well we finally got our new club up and running > which is the Central Coast Machinery Club inc it all happened on Wed > night, > there was a great turn out ( 42 signed the book ) and we finished up with > 28 > > members and more to come, So now we will have to start setting a show or > two. More to come Later. > Cam. > > > Cam and Edwina Grundy > Kariong > NSW 2250 > AUS > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Fri Jun 18 03:48:12 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 20:48:12 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well done guys. I hope it all goes well. Patrick On 18/6/10 8:25 PM, "Cam Grundy" wrote: > Hi, one for the Aussies. Well we finally got our new club up and running > which is the Central Coast Machinery Club inc it all happened on Wed night, > there was a great turn out ( 42 signed the book ) and we finished up with 28 > members and more to come, So now we will have to start setting a show or > two. More to come Later. > Cam. > > > Cam and Edwina Grundy > Kariong > NSW 2250 > AUS > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From camaned at iinet.net.au Fri Jun 18 04:15:39 2010 From: camaned at iinet.net.au (Cam Grundy) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 21:15:39 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9B7DD01E81BA41B6B2C0718EB4B20511@CamPC> Hi Patrick Yes Mate we are more than happy with that on the first night, Howard joined but times are still tough, he's a great bloke. Catchya Cam. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Livingstone" To: "ATIS" Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] New Club OT > Well done guys. > I hope it all goes well. > Patrick > > > On 18/6/10 8:25 PM, "Cam Grundy" wrote: > >> Hi, one for the Aussies. Well we finally got our new club up and running >> which is the Central Coast Machinery Club inc it all happened on Wed >> night, >> there was a great turn out ( 42 signed the book ) and we finished up with >> 28 >> members and more to come, So now we will have to start setting a show or >> two. More to come Later. >> Cam. >> >> >> Cam and Edwina Grundy >> Kariong >> NSW 2250 >> AUS >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From flywheelin at hotmail.com Fri Jun 18 08:07:08 2010 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:07:08 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification In-Reply-To: References: , , , Message-ID: You're correct Tommy. Thanks. I found a couple online books that showed a fuel pump just like the one I have. http://www.archive.org/details/ihcvictorfamousg00inte http://www.archive.org/details/internationalhar00inte Now I just need to find out what this fuel pump goes to: http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-668F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ---------------------------------------- > From: flywheelin at hotmail.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:49:53 +0000 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification > > > Hi Tommy, > > I didn't see an IH logo on the first item below. The size of the second one is quite substantial so it must be off of a larger engine. I'll have to do some searching online to see if I can find something..... > > Luke Tonneberger > Rockford, Michigan > USA > > > ---------------------------------------- >> From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:00 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification >> >> Luke, >> Not sure but could this possibly be off of a Mogul? Some of the >> IH guys will know for sure. >> >> Looks like a fuel pump, what engine would it go on? >> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-668F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG >> >> >> >> You might have to give some additional dimensions although the IH guys >> can look it up on the parts listing and tell you. Its for an engine, >> could be the 4, 6, 8, 10 etc horizontals or if it?s a small pump for the >> 2 ? Famous. >> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-676F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-677F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-674F.JPG >> >> Luke Tonneberger >> Rockford, Michigan >> USA _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From oldironnut at windstream.net Fri Jun 18 08:29:57 2010 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:29:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Recognize any of these names? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C1B90F5.7060907@windstream.net> Howdy all, I was doing a quick Google search for release agents for JB Weld and I ran across this page . There are a lot of familiar names in that discussion from 1996! From flywheelin at hotmail.com Fri Jun 18 08:31:01 2010 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:31:01 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification In-Reply-To: References: , , , Message-ID: The other fuel pump I have here: http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG It looks like a mirror image to the one I found on a Mogul side shaft here, if you go to 30 seconds in it shows a good view of the fuel pump: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8DQIEAwdxw Does someone have a parts book for IH that they could check the casting numbers? Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ---------------------------------------- > From: flywheelin at hotmail.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:49:53 +0000 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification > > > Hi Tommy, > > I didn't see an IH logo on the first item below. The size of the second one is quite substantial so it must be off of a larger engine. I'll have to do some searching online to see if I can find something..... > > Luke Tonneberger > Rockford, Michigan > USA > > > ---------------------------------------- >> From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:00 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification >> >> Luke, >> Not sure but could this possibly be off of a Mogul? Some of the >> IH guys will know for sure. >> >> Looks like a fuel pump, what engine would it go on? >> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-668F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG >> >> >> >> You might have to give some additional dimensions although the IH guys >> can look it up on the parts listing and tell you. Its for an engine, >> could be the 4, 6, 8, 10 etc horizontals or if it?s a small pump for the >> 2 ? Famous. >> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-676F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-677F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-674F.JPG >> >> Luke Tonneberger >> Rockford, Michigan >> USA _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Jun 18 09:23:35 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:23:35 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Recognize any of these names? In-Reply-To: <4C1B90F5.7060907@windstream.net> References: <4C1B90F5.7060907@windstream.net> Message-ID: <766F12E2-AAA3-4FB5-9315-615EAD3BB581@rustyiron.com> On Jun 18, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Michael Tucker wrote: > Howdy all, > > I was doing a quick Google search for release agents for JB Weld and I > ran across this page > >. > There are a lot of familiar names in that discussion from 1996! That scurvy pirate Paul is gonna have to start paying us royalties. From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Jun 18 09:32:01 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:32:01 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Recognize any of these names? In-Reply-To: <4C1B90F5.7060907@windstream.net> References: <4C1B90F5.7060907@windstream.net> Message-ID: <28E8FF3D-B66E-4488-843F-E2F99A998C69@rustyiron.com> On Jun 18, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Michael Tucker wrote: > > I was doing a quick Google search for release agents for JB Weld If ya wanna talk about release agents, I have ideas along those lines. Call after 10:00... uh, 13:00. From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Jun 18 09:40:18 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:40:18 +0200 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100618183705.025bf440@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 18/06/2010, you wrote: >From: "Elden" >Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help >Tom: > >I just had a thought. If you have a tractor that has rear >wheels big enough, just fill the tank with the solvent of >your choice and a handful of nuts and washers then duck tape >the tank to one of the tractor wheels. > >After you mow the north forty, you should have a pretty good >idea if it will work. > >By the way, depending on what mechanical shape your tractor >is in, you may or may not be able to tell the difference >between the sound of the junk rattling around inside the >tank and the sound of the tractor. :-) > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand Hi Elden McGyver, I've gotta take my hat off to you - you really come up with some original (and workable) ideas. If you lived here you would have to be a farmer :-) Keep well, Jerry From edurand at mchsi.com Fri Jun 18 14:54:15 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 17:54:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100618183705.025bf440@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: >From you, I consider that a supreme compliment! Thanks! BTW, your plate with Homebrew Engine serial number 3 is now mounted on the McVickerish engine. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 12:40 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help At 06:00 PM 18/06/2010, you wrote: >From: "Elden" >Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help >Tom: > >I just had a thought. If you have a tractor that has rear >wheels big enough, just fill the tank with the solvent of >your choice and a handful of nuts and washers then duck tape >the tank to one of the tractor wheels. > >After you mow the north forty, you should have a pretty good >idea if it will work. > >By the way, depending on what mechanical shape your tractor >is in, you may or may not be able to tell the difference >between the sound of the junk rattling around inside the >tank and the sound of the tractor. :-) > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand Hi Elden McGyver, I've gotta take my hat off to you - you really come up with some original (and workable) ideas. If you lived here you would have to be a farmer :-) Keep well, Jerry From mathjr at optusnet.com.au Fri Jun 18 16:39:47 2010 From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au (John Mathieson) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:39:47 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT References: Message-ID: <508AFADE3A9D44ADAC95C90A3828EBB9@lightning> Great to hear Cam. Our club here seems to be dying. We have a majority of tractor folk and stationary engines have taken a real back seat. Luckily the Bombala club is only an hour away . John Mathieson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cam Grundy" To: "SEL" Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:25 PM Subject: [SEL] New Club OT > Hi, one for the Aussies. Well we finally got our new club up and running > which is the Central Coast Machinery Club inc it all happened on Wed > night, > there was a great turn out ( 42 signed the book ) and we finished up with > 28 > members and more to come, So now we will have to start setting a show or > two. More to come Later. > Cam. > > > Cam and Edwina Grundy > Kariong > NSW 2250 > AUS > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date: 06/11/10 18:35:00 -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date: 06/11/10 18:35:00 From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Fri Jun 18 16:55:41 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:55:41 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT References: <508AFADE3A9D44ADAC95C90A3828EBB9@lightning> Message-ID: <4DCAEE5583514722B703FD2840564C10@regpc> That appears the way the HVVMC has gone too. A lot of the earlier engine members are no longer bothering. So it goes. Apathy and politics happens in all organisations. Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Mathieson" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] New Club OT > Great to hear Cam. Our club here seems to be dying. We have a majority of > tractor folk and stationary engines have taken a real back seat. Luckily > the > Bombala club is only an hour away . John Mathieson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cam Grundy" > To: "SEL" > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:25 PM > Subject: [SEL] New Club OT > > >> Hi, one for the Aussies. Well we finally got our new club up and running >> which is the Central Coast Machinery Club inc it all happened on Wed >> night, >> there was a great turn out ( 42 signed the book ) and we finished up with >> 28 >> members and more to come, So now we will have to start setting a show or >> two. More to come Later. >> Cam. >> >> >> Cam and Edwina Grundy >> Kariong >> NSW 2250 >> AUS >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date: 06/11/10 > 18:35:00 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date: 06/11/10 18:35:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lfevans at pacbell.net Fri Jun 18 17:10:51 2010 From: lfevans at pacbell.net (Larry Evans) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 17:10:51 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Mt. Wilson Fairbanks Morse on TV - maybe Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20100618170903.039a3c90@pop.att.yahoo.com> Hi...... In the middle of April this year Huell Howser spent a day at the Mt. Wilson Observatory filming a one hour special for his "California's Gold" TV series. It will air on Public Television here in California according to the following schedule: KCET, Los Angeles Sunday, June 20 at 7 pm & Saturday, June 26 at 7 pm KVIE, Sacramento Thursday, July 1 at 8 pm KVPT, Fresno Thursday, July 1 at 8 pm & Sunday, July 18 at 7 pm KVCR, San Bernadino Thursday, July 1 at 8 pm Even though most of the program will concentrate on the history of the big telescopes he did spend about half an hour filming the line shaft machine shop and my brother and I running the 1911 50 hp Fairbanks Morse type RE. Hopefully some of that footage made it past the editing process and will be part of the program. Larry Larry Evans MailTo:LFEVANS at pacbell.net http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Jun 18 20:10:16 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 20:10:16 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT In-Reply-To: <4DCAEE5583514722B703FD2840564C10@regpc> References: <508AFADE3A9D44ADAC95C90A3828EBB9@lightning> <4DCAEE5583514722B703FD2840564C10@regpc> Message-ID: >> Great to hear Cam. Our club here seems to be dying. We have a >> majority of >> tractor folk and stationary engines have taken a real back seat. >> Luckily >> the Bombala club is only an hour away . John Mathieson Hi, John. Read the papers and keep an eye peeled for schools that are putting on carnivals, communities that are hosting heritage fairs, or car clubs that are doing charity fundraisers. Call the organizers, tell them about your historical and educational displays, and tell them you'd like to participate. Just be an eccentric guy bringing an engine to an event, perhaps with a couple of your mates, and forgo the formalities that accompany the activities clubs and organizations. Be a freelancer... a rogue... a renegade... a free spirit. All it takes to show an engine is the engine, a can of fuel, a squirt of oil, and a desire to be the center of attention. If none of the above are possible, hunt down an administrator from your local school and make them an offer. Over here, our schools are squeezed for cash, and welcome free additions to their curriculum. I'll bet you could do a song and dance that would keep the kids interested for 15-30 minutes. Multiply that by several classrooms full of kids, and you then have a captive audience for the better part of a morning or afternoon. Good luck. Rob From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Jun 18 20:15:50 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 20:15:50 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Mt. Wilson Fairbanks Morse on TV - maybe In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20100618170903.039a3c90@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20100618170903.039a3c90@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <944FBFC6-D919-4F8F-A2E2-DDD029CC1FA4@rustyiron.com> Thanks, Larry. It's now set to record. Incidentally, for us it's 6/20, 7 p.m., channel 28, KCET. On Jun 18, 2010, at 5:10 PM, Larry Evans wrote: > Hi...... > > In the middle of April this year Huell Howser spent a day at the Mt. > Wilson > Observatory filming a one hour special for his "California's Gold" TV > series. It will air on Public Television here in California > according to > the following schedule: > > KCET, Los Angeles > Sunday, June 20 at 7 pm & Saturday, June 26 at 7 pm KVIE, Sacramento > Thursday, July 1 at 8 pm KVPT, Fresno > Thursday, July 1 at 8 pm & Sunday, July 18 at 7 pm KVCR, San Bernadino > Thursday, July 1 at 8 pm > > Even though most of the program will concentrate on the history of > the big > telescopes he did spend about half an hour filming the line shaft > machine > shop and my brother and I running the 1911 50 hp Fairbanks Morse type > RE. Hopefully some of that footage made it past the editing process > and > will be part of the program. > > Larry > > Larry Evans > MailTo:LFEVANS at pacbell.net > http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ > From mathjr at optusnet.com.au Sat Jun 19 01:59:32 2010 From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au (John Mathieson) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 18:59:32 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT References: <508AFADE3A9D44ADAC95C90A3828EBB9@lightning><4DCAEE5583514722B703FD2840564C10@regpc> Message-ID: <48889801930D4BB18828B57BC3AB69E0@lightning> Hi Rob, thanks for the encouragement. You are right in what you say. I certainly will fly the flag high for the stationary engine folk. Cheers John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] New Club OT >>> Great to hear Cam. Our club here seems to be dying. We have a >>> majority of >>> tractor folk and stationary engines have taken a real back seat. >>> Luckily >>> the Bombala club is only an hour away . John Mathieson > > Hi, John. > Read the papers and keep an eye peeled for schools that are putting on > carnivals, communities that are hosting heritage fairs, or car clubs > that are doing charity fundraisers. Call the organizers, tell them > about your historical and educational displays, and tell them you'd > like to participate. > > Just be an eccentric guy bringing an engine to an event, perhaps with > a couple of your mates, and forgo the formalities that accompany the > activities clubs and organizations. Be a freelancer... a rogue... a > renegade... a free spirit. All it takes to show an engine is the > engine, a can of fuel, a squirt of oil, and a desire to be the center > of attention. > > If none of the above are possible, hunt down an administrator from > your local school and make them an offer. Over here, our schools are > squeezed for cash, and welcome free additions to their curriculum. > I'll bet you could do a song and dance that would keep the kids > interested for 15-30 minutes. Multiply that by several classrooms full > of kids, and you then have a captive audience for the better part of a > morning or afternoon. > > Good luck. > Rob > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date: 06/11/10 18:35:00 -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date: 06/11/10 18:35:00 From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Sat Jun 19 02:49:32 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:49:32 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT In-Reply-To: <508AFADE3A9D44ADAC95C90A3828EBB9@lightning> Message-ID: Most clubs seem to wax and wane. Some recover others do not. Some really good clubs have faded away over the years and others have almost gone and then made a remarkable recovery. A lot of engine rallies go through the same thing. There is always politics in a club and sadly people often forget it is a hobby. We are lucky that (at the moment) our club has enthusiastic members on both the tractor and engine sides and all can see that the club needs the engines, tractors, cars, trucks etc. to survive & thrive. If things change we have sufficient numbers of engine guys around here to form our own club but I cannot see that being needed for a long time. I can rarely get to club meetings (as it can almost be guaranteed that I will have to work on meeting nights) but I try and help out with our club when I can. Patrick On 19/6/10 9:39 AM, "John Mathieson" wrote: > Great to hear Cam. Our club here seems to be dying. We have a majority of > tractor folk and stationary engines have taken a real back seat. Luckily the > Bombala club is only an hour away . John Mathieson From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Jun 19 09:17:23 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:17:23 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I though that's what it was Luke and that's why I suggest it might be a Mogul. TT -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Luke Tonneberger Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 11:31 AM To: Engine List Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification The other fuel pump I have here: http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG It looks like a mirror image to the one I found on a Mogul side shaft here, if you go to 30 seconds in it shows a good view of the fuel pump: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8DQIEAwdxw Does someone have a parts book for IH that they could check the casting numbers? Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ---------------------------------------- > From: flywheelin at hotmail.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:49:53 +0000 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification > > > Hi Tommy, > > I didn't see an IH logo on the first item below. The size of the second one is quite substantial so it must be off of a larger engine. I'll have to do some searching online to see if I can find something..... > > Luke Tonneberger > Rockford, Michigan > USA > > > ---------------------------------------- >> From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:00 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification >> >> Luke, >> Not sure but could this possibly be off of a Mogul? Some of the >> IH guys will know for sure. >> >> Looks like a fuel pump, what engine would it go on? >> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-668F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG >> >> >> >> You might have to give some additional dimensions although the IH guys >> can look it up on the parts listing and tell you. Its for an engine, >> could be the 4, 6, 8, 10 etc horizontals or if it?s a small pump for the >> 2 ? Famous. >> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-676F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-677F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-674F.JPG >> >> Luke Tonneberger >> Rockford, Michigan >> USA _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=P ID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Sat Jun 19 10:13:58 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:13:58 +0200 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help/now Tractor back wheel tumbler. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100619184210.02d24d28@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 19/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 4 >Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 17:54:15 -0400 >From: "Elden" >Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Jerry: > > >From you, I consider that a supreme compliment! Thanks! > >BTW, your plate with Homebrew Engine serial number 3 is now >mounted on the McVickerish engine. > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand Hi Elden, Lest anyone thought I was joking, today I was cutting firewood and lugging it on the carrier I built for my Massey Fergusson 35. I actually examined the back hub and by taking off only 2 of the 8 nuts and fixing a "universal mounting bracket" across them (then replacing the nuts)(or I could fit longer wheel studs and have more fixing points) I could have a tumbler with infinite possibilities . With the type of light work I do with my tractor (no ploughing or really heavy traction work) this would work perfectly. I've often thought of building a tumbler for gemstones and suchlike. This could do the trick - even if I have to leave it attached for a few months (I don't use the tractor often) - but hey, who's in a hurry? Nice to hear about the McVickerish, thanks, that means you only have one plate left in stock. I look forward to your next order :-) Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From edurand at mchsi.com Sat Jun 19 11:47:00 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 14:47:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help/now Tractor back wheel tumbler. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100619184210.02d24d28@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: It may be sooner rather than later. I got discombobulated while stamping the plate and messed one of them up by putting a "3" in the "bore" box (Grrrrrr!). It's actually 2.5 so I now have a plate that can only be used for an engine that has a bore larger than I will most likely ever build. All of which means that I now have zero plates. I'll let you know in advance of when I'll need more. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 1:14 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help/now Tractor back wheel tumbler. .....................snip................................. Nice to hear about the McVickerish, thanks, that means you only have one plate left in stock. I look forward to your next order :-) Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: Hi all, I'm, once again, envious of you Northern Hemisphere members. It's damn cold here (but you guys just had a very cold winter so I should not complain). The Aussie and NZ members are in the same boat as I am. Although we do not have the snow and ice storms that some of you Yanks have it still gets darn cold for us (considering that my signature states that I'm from "Sunny South Africa" !!). Fortunately, our days are quite warm (if you can find a sheltered spot in the sun) but once the sun starts setting it's hell (without the heat!). Earlier this week it went down to -10.3 degrees overnight here (that's centigrade = approx. 13.5 degrees farenheit). Combined with an ice cold wind (wind chill factor) it was actually much colder. I imagine you guys in the north experience that all the time but it's cold for us. The water drain pipe on my airline burst (because of my stupidity - I'd forgotten to drain it and leave the tap open). Did anyone see the pics of a soccer team (it may have been the French but I'm not sure) in Bloemfontein (remember, it's the Soccer World Cup going on here). The reserve players were sitting huddled up in blankets. I've got 2 engines standing outdoors without anti freeze but fortunately I did remember to drain the water off. I hope they survive. My office is very cold but this year I built a fireplace into it and now it's quite pleasant. I spent today cutting firewood and working with a chainsaw does keep one a bit warmer. I've now got a pretty fair sized wood pile outside. I think that I should move a bed in here - it would sure save me the agony of walking to my house (only about 25 metres away) but I also have to carry the cat !! :-) Anyway, to anyone who has read this far, thanks and apologies for yet another "Off Topic" post. Good night (from a freezing South African) Jerry. From WurliTzerPgh at aol.com Sat Jun 19 15:38:08 2010 From: WurliTzerPgh at aol.com (WurliTzerPgh at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 18:38:08 EDT Subject: [SEL] Ignitor Question Message-ID: <9c427.7e05be36.394ea0d0@aol.com> Having just returned from a great day at Coolspring, I have a renewed interest in completing the restoration of my engines. One is a Novo and the other has a Reeves Pulley nameplate on it. Although it will run, the ignitor on the Reeves needs some attention and a person I met at Coolspring suggested that "Mark from Mark's Magnetos might be able to help." Does anybody on the list have information I can use to contact him? Jay Smith, Pittsburgh From mathjr at optusnet.com.au Sat Jun 19 15:45:15 2010 From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au (John Mathieson) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:45:15 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT References: Message-ID: <1B911D8695F34022988E72755454A511@lightning> Your right Patrick about there being a place for tractors as well as engines. It seems to me that most of the engines that I see at rallies date from aprox. 1910- 1940. The tractors that I see seem to date from about 1940 - 1980. I guess that is why I can't get wrapped up in them. The tractor folk in our club enjoy a lot of tractor treks, travelling up to 100 km per day. That must be great fun. Some tractor owners in our club also have engines but we are seeing less and less of them. Cheers John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Livingstone" To: "ATIS" Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] New Club OT > Most clubs seem to wax and wane. Some recover others do not. Some really > good clubs have faded away over the years and others have almost gone and > then made a remarkable recovery. A lot of engine rallies go through the > same > thing. > There is always politics in a club and sadly people often forget it is a > hobby. > We are lucky that (at the moment) our club has enthusiastic members on > both > the tractor and engine sides and all can see that the club needs the > engines, tractors, cars, trucks etc. to survive & thrive. If things change > we have sufficient numbers of engine guys around here to form our own club > but I cannot see that being needed for a long time. > I can rarely get to club meetings (as it can almost be guaranteed that I > will have to work on meeting nights) but I try and help out with our club > when I can. > Patrick > > > On 19/6/10 9:39 AM, "John Mathieson" wrote: > >> Great to hear Cam. Our club here seems to be dying. We have a majority of >> tractor folk and stationary engines have taken a real back seat. Luckily >> the >> Bombala club is only an hour away . John Mathieson > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date: 06/11/10 18:35:00 -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date: 06/11/10 18:35:00 From Germoamer at aol.com Sat Jun 19 16:17:52 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:17:52 EDT Subject: [SEL] Ignitor Question Message-ID: <9e949.7801bd8b.394eaa20@aol.com> There are a number of good magneto/ignitor rebuilders. Two that I have used are the following: Marks Magneto 321 McDonald Road Colchester, Ct 06451 860-537-0376 Lightening Magneto Mitch Malcolm 45685 Co. Road 54 Ottertail, Mn 56571 218-367-2819 _mitchmalcolm at hotmail.com Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com _ (mailto:mitchmalcolm at hotmail.com) From marinesurveys at msn.com Sat Jun 19 16:20:39 2010 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:20:39 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Ignitor Question In-Reply-To: <9c427.7e05be36.394ea0d0@aol.com> References: <9c427.7e05be36.394ea0d0@aol.com> Message-ID: Jay; try this, Mark's number is 1-860-537-0376 He is in Colchester, CT. Thats from a post on Smoak stack Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: WurliTzerPgh at aol.com > Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 18:38:08 -0400 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Ignitor Question > > Having just returned from a great day at Coolspring, I have a renewed > interest in completing the restoration of my engines. One is a Novo and the > other has a Reeves Pulley nameplate on it. Although it will run, the ignitor > on the Reeves needs some attention and a person I met at Coolspring > suggested that "Mark from Mark's Magnetos might be able to help." Does anybody > on the list have information I can use to contact him? > Jay Smith, Pittsburgh > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From gandr at slingshot.co.nz Sat Jun 19 17:02:31 2010 From: gandr at slingshot.co.nz (Graham and Ros) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:02:31 +1200 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help References: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> Message-ID: <512BB14449104461A764F5C024019B60@hagrid> you could shake it around with some small sharp edged rocks in it to loosen up the crud or maybe leave the crud in there if it is hard , then use the tank seal and slosh that around to seal it in. Of course you know what will happen if you clean it out all nice and shiney, it will leak. Cheers Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 9:46 AM Subject: [SEL] gas tank help > My kerosene tank under the Famous engine has 100 years of gunk in it. > Probably a good 3/16 inch layer on the bottom side. The only access is > thru a > 1 1/2 inch pipe flange adapter on one side at one end. The tank is 9 > tall > x 13 wide x 40 long. About 1/3 from each end is a pipe going from top to > bottom and is where the mounting bolts go thru the tank to hold in place. > So, putting a chain in it and sloshing around does not work due to the > thru > pipes getting in the way. I can put a long scraper thru the pipe flange > on the end and scrape lots of nice gunk! I can only scrape from one side > to > the other and for a distance down length of a few inches. The gunk is > pretty dense and hard from all the years. > > What I am thinking about doing is to cut a hole on the top side in the > middle about 3x3 to access the tank. I believe with this I can scrape the > majority of the tank bottom and up the sides an inch or so. After doing > that, > then use gas/etc., and some rocks/nuts//chain, I can then rock it for a > while and get most of the junk scraped out. Having this access hole > would > ensure getting all the cleaning parts out. > > Next make a new cover, JB Weld with pop rivets. Next put in tank sealer > everywhere. > > Anyone ever done this or have a better idea? The gunk in the bottom is > starting to give me running problems. > > Thanks, > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > > From gandr at slingshot.co.nz Sat Jun 19 17:18:02 2010 From: gandr at slingshot.co.nz (Graham and Ros) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:18:02 +1200 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT References: Message-ID: <37F52238D4B1445D80DA471DFD7F1835@hagrid> Hello there Cam, Good on you m8, its good to have local clubs in your local area as your local public gets to know and love the engine displays as much as you do, but that depends on how often you want to show them off. I can't wait for the web site and photo's ):-) Cheers Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cam Grundy" To: "SEL" Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:25 PM Subject: [SEL] New Club OT > Hi, one for the Aussies. Well we finally got our new club up and running > which is the Central Coast Machinery Club inc it all happened on Wed > night, there was a great turn out ( 42 signed the book ) and we finished > up with 28 members and more to come, So now we will have to start setting > a show or two. More to come Later. > Cam. > > > Cam and Edwina Grundy > Kariong > NSW 2250 > AUS > > From edurand at mchsi.com Sat Jun 19 17:50:03 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:50:03 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Again - Envious. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100619214223.02d26868@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Dang, Jerry! It's that pesky global warming stuff again! Maybe you can hire Algore to haul your firewood ....... No, I think he's too important for that. He invented fire, you know. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 4:35 PM To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] O.T. Again - Envious. Hi all, I'm, once again, envious of you Northern Hemisphere members. It's damn cold here ..................snip................. From camaned at iinet.net.au Sat Jun 19 17:56:34 2010 From: camaned at iinet.net.au (Cam Grundy) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 10:56:34 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT In-Reply-To: <37F52238D4B1445D80DA471DFD7F1835@hagrid> References: <37F52238D4B1445D80DA471DFD7F1835@hagrid> Message-ID: Thanx Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham and Ros" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] New Club OT > Hello there Cam, > Good on you m8, its good to have local clubs in > your > local area as your local public gets to know and love the engine displays > as > much as you do, but that depends on how often you want to show them off. > I can't wait for the web site and photo's ):-) > Cheers > Graham > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cam Grundy" > To: "SEL" > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:25 PM > Subject: [SEL] New Club OT > > >> Hi, one for the Aussies. Well we finally got our new club up and running >> which is the Central Coast Machinery Club inc it all happened on Wed >> night, there was a great turn out ( 42 signed the book ) and we finished >> up with 28 members and more to come, So now we will have to start setting >> a show or two. More to come Later. >> Cam. >> >> >> Cam and Edwina Grundy >> Kariong >> NSW 2250 >> AUS >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Jun 19 23:07:48 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (frappi at wcoil.com) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 02:07:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Ignitor Question In-Reply-To: <9c427.7e05be36.394ea0d0@aol.com> References: <9c427.7e05be36.394ea0d0@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi Jay, Call 860-537-0376 during regular business hours. You missed him by one day. They were set up till Friday. They pulled out for home in this AM. Maytag Mark > Having just returned from a great day at Coolspring, I have a renewed > interest in completing the restoration of my engines. One is a Novo and > the > other has a Reeves Pulley nameplate on it. Although it will run, the > ignitor > on the Reeves needs some attention and a person I met at Coolspring > suggested that "Mark from Mark's Magnetos might be able to help." Does > anybody > on the list have information I can use to contact him? > Jay Smith, Pittsburgh > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From camaned at iinet.net.au Sun Jun 20 00:41:18 2010 From: camaned at iinet.net.au (Cam Grundy) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:41:18 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5C134F7EDB6C4E1DB39C17D771C26AB8@CamPC> Hi to all those who congratulated me for our new club, it was Andy Moran that did all of the paper work, I take my hat off to him, he did a brilliant job. Cheers Cam. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cam Grundy" To: "SEL" Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:25 PM. Subject: [SEL] New Club OT > Hi, one for the Aussies. Well we finally got our new club up and running > which is the Central Coast Machinery Club inc it all happened on Wed > night, > there was a great turn out ( 42 signed the book ) and we finished up with > 28 > members and more to come, So now we will have to start setting a show or > two. More to come Later. > Cam. > > > Cam and Edwina Grundy > Kariong > NSW 2250 > AUS > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Germoamer at aol.com Sun Jun 20 05:28:36 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:28:36 EDT Subject: [SEL] gas tank help Message-ID: In a message dated 6/19/2010 8:09:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gandr at slingshot.co.nz writes: Of course you know what will happen if you clean it out all nice and shiney, it will leak. Yep, getting prepared for that with good sealer! Shaking going on now with lacer thinner/bunch of steel nuts. Second application. First one full of gunk. Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From jerrye at databak.co.za Sun Jun 20 10:24:53 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:24:53 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100620192141.029d3768@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 20/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 3 >Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 14:47:00 -0400 >From: "Elden" >Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help/now Tractor back wheel tumbler. > >Jerry: > >It may be sooner rather than later. I got discombobulated >while stamping the plate and messed one of them up by >putting a "3" in the "bore" box (Grrrrrr!). It's actually >2.5 so I now have a plate that can only be used for an >engine that has a bore larger than I will most likely ever >build. > >All of which means that I now have zero plates. I'll let >you know in advance of when I'll need more. > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand Hi Elden, Why not carefully braze the wrong number closed and start over. The brass is "engraving brass" and has some lead in it for lubrication - I don't know if this would be a problem when brazing. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Jun 20 11:55:50 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:55:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100620192141.029d3768@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: Great idea, Jerry but since I'm retired, worthless and bone-idle, that sounds like a lot of work. Maybe I'll just stamp over it! Perfect! :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 1:25 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair At 06:00 PM 20/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 3 >Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 14:47:00 -0400 >From: "Elden" >Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help/now Tractor back wheel tumbler. > >Jerry: > >It may be sooner rather than later. I got discombobulated >while stamping the plate and messed one of them up by >putting a "3" in the "bore" box (Grrrrrr!). It's actually >2.5 so I now have a plate that can only be used for an >engine that has a bore larger than I will most likely ever >build. > >All of which means that I now have zero plates. I'll let >you know in advance of when I'll need more. > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand Hi Elden, Why not carefully braze the wrong number closed and start over. The brass is "engraving brass" and has some lead in it for lubrication - I don't know if this would be a problem when brazing. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Sun Jun 20 12:53:29 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 15:53:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Why not sand off the numbers on a tape measure and print in new ones? If someone says "that's not 3 inches" hand them the tape and tell them to check it out. Dave PS, Having been a bit "short" all my live I've learned to overcome these "little" difficulties! On Jun 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Elden wrote: > Great idea, Jerry but since I'm retired, worthless and > bone-idle, that sounds like a lot of work. Maybe I'll just > stamp over it! Perfect! :-) > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of > Jerry Evans > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 1:25 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair > > > At 06:00 PM 20/06/2010, you wrote: >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 14:47:00 -0400 >> From: "Elden" >> Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help/now Tractor back wheel > tumbler. >> >> Jerry: >> >> It may be sooner rather than later. I got discombobulated >> while stamping the plate and messed one of them up by >> putting a "3" in the "bore" box (Grrrrrr!). It's actually >> 2.5 so I now have a plate that can only be used for an >> engine that has a bore larger than I will most likely ever >> build. >> >> All of which means that I now have zero plates. I'll let >> you know in advance of when I'll need more. >> >> Take care - Elden >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > Hi Elden, > Why not carefully braze the wrong number closed and > start over. > The brass is "engraving brass" and has some lead in it for > lubrication - I > don't know if this would be a problem when brazing. > > > > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Jun 20 13:11:56 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 16:11:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dave: Thanks! Sounds like a solution to me. I might just do that. It takes a guy with a Doctorate to be able to figger that stuff out. :-) Unfortunately (or fortunately, as the case may be), you're still the Evil Dave..... Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 3:53 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass plate repair Why not sand off the numbers on a tape measure and print in new ones? If someone says "that's not 3 inches" hand them the tape and tell them to check it out. Dave PS, Having been a bit "short" all my live I've learned to overcome these "little" difficulties! From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 20 13:50:29 2010 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 15:50:29 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair Message-ID: <437512.58305.qm@smtp116-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Your 2.5 inch bore is 6.35 cm, can you just go metric on your tag? Joe Sent from my U.S. Cellular? Windows? phone. -----Original Message----- From: David Rotigel Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:53 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass plate repair Why not sand off the numbers on a tape measure and print in new ones? If someone says "that's not 3 inches" hand them the tape and tell them to check it out. Dave PS, Having been a bit "short" all my live I've learned to overcome these "little" difficulties! On Jun 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Elden wrote: > Great idea, Jerry but since I'm retired, worthless and > bone-idle, that sounds like a lot of work. Maybe I'll just > stamp over it! Perfect! :-) > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of > Jerry Evans > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 1:25 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair > > > At 06:00 PM 20/06/2010, you wrote: >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 14:47:00 -0400 >> From: "Elden" >> Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help/now Tractor back wheel > tumbler. >> >> Jerry: >> >> It may be sooner rather than later. I got discombobulated >> while stamping the plate and messed one of them up by >> putting a "3" in the "bore" box (Grrrrrr!). It's actually >> 2.5 so I now have a plate that can only be used for an >> engine that has a bore larger than I will most likely ever >> build. >> >> All of which means that I now have zero plates. I'll let >> you know in advance of when I'll need more. >> >> Take care - Elden >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > Hi Elden, > Why not carefully braze the wrong number closed and > start over. > The brass is "engraving brass" and has some lead in it for > lubrication - I > don't know if this would be a problem when brazing. > > > > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL maili [The entire original message is not included] From rotigel at me.com Sun Jun 20 14:54:58 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:54:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85D9D858-6193-495E-AB6E-894A45005611@me.com> All my life I've collected a goodly amount of money for TOTAL BULL SHIT. Why should I stop now? Dave On Jun 20, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Elden wrote: > Dave: > > Thanks! Sounds like a solution to me. I might just do > that. > > It takes a guy with a Doctorate to be able to figger that > stuff out. :-) > > Unfortunately (or fortunately, as the case may be), you're > still the Evil Dave..... > > Take care - Elden From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Jun 20 15:08:32 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:08:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair In-Reply-To: <437512.58305.qm@smtp116-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Joe: Since there is a "3" now in the bore blank, I suppose I could make it 3 cm or 1.181102". That's more in my range of building. I'll simply save the tag until I decide to design an engine with a 3 cm bore. Thank you for your helpful suggestion. :-) Wow! Hoyt-Clagwell & Company will be right with the times ...... METRIC! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Joe Prindle Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 4:50 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass plate repair Your 2.5 inch bore is 6.35 cm, can you just go metric on your tag? Joe Sent from my U.S. Cellular? Windows? phone. -----Original Message----- From: David Rotigel Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:53 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass plate repair Why not sand off the numbers on a tape measure and print in new ones? If someone says "that's not 3 inches" hand them the tape and tell them to check it out. Dave PS, Having been a bit "short" all my live I've learned to overcome these "little" difficulties! On Jun 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Elden wrote: > Great idea, Jerry but since I'm retired, worthless and > bone-idle, that sounds like a lot of work. Maybe I'll just > stamp over it! Perfect! :-) > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of > Jerry Evans > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 1:25 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair > > > At 06:00 PM 20/06/2010, you wrote: >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 14:47:00 -0400 >> From: "Elden" >> Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help/now Tractor back wheel > tumbler. >> >> Jerry: >> >> It may be sooner rather than later. I got discombobulated >> while stamping the plate and messed one of them up by >> putting a "3" in the "bore" box (Grrrrrr!). It's actually >> 2.5 so I now have a plate that can only be used for an >> engine that has a bore larger than I will most likely ever >> build. From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Jun 20 16:53:27 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:53:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair In-Reply-To: <85D9D858-6193-495E-AB6E-894A45005611@me.com> Message-ID: Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 5:55 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass plate repair All my life I've collected a goodly amount of money for TOTAL BULL SHIT. Why should I stop now? Dave On Jun 20, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Elden wrote: > Dave: > > Thanks! Sounds like a solution to me. I might just do > that. > > It takes a guy with a Doctorate to be able to figger that > stuff out. :-) > > Unfortunately (or fortunately, as the case may be), you're > still the Evil Dave..... > > Take care - Elden _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Jun 20 16:53:35 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:53:35 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair In-Reply-To: <85D9D858-6193-495E-AB6E-894A45005611@me.com> Message-ID: Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 5:55 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass plate repair All my life I've collected a goodly amount of money for TOTAL BULL SHIT. Why should I stop now? Dave On Jun 20, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Elden wrote: > Dave: > > Thanks! Sounds like a solution to me. I might just do > that. > > It takes a guy with a Doctorate to be able to figger that > stuff out. :-) > > Unfortunately (or fortunately, as the case may be), you're > still the Evil Dave..... > > Take care - Elden _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Jun 20 16:54:43 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:54:43 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair In-Reply-To: <85D9D858-6193-495E-AB6E-894A45005611@me.com> Message-ID: Gee! Finally, I meet a PhD who knows the score! :-) Keep up the good work, Doc. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 5:55 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass plate repair All my life I've collected a goodly amount of money for TOTAL BULL SHIT. Why should I stop now? From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jun 20 19:35:32 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:35:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615211149.00cf2d00@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: <001401cb10ea$6c16db20$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Only one, canvas and inherited from my dad! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Evans" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > At 06:00 PM 15/06/2010, you wrote: >>Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:52:29 -0400 >>From: "Mike Royster" >>Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. >> >>Jerry, >> >> You must be related to us after all, I have both blue and gray tarps! >>Nice place you have there "cuzin." >> >>Mike (the fewer tarps than last year) Royster > > > Howdy Mike, > Thanks, but do you have a red tarp? :-) > keep well, > Jerry > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bboyce at swat.coop Mon Jun 21 10:47:06 2010 From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:47:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover Message-ID: <9278C01249AA402BA8D7359E14AC40E4@billPC> here are a couple of pics of the stover,,, piston being installed bill boyce lost prairie, arkansas http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416054367183 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/photo.php?pid=112875&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416191033836 From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Mon Jun 21 11:14:45 2010 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:14:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: <9278C01249AA402BA8D7359E14AC40E4@billPC> References: <9278C01249AA402BA8D7359E14AC40E4@billPC> Message-ID: Hi Bill, I'm going after a big Stover this weekend in the wild and I will probably be asking you some questions about yours. The one I'm going after has 54 or 55" flywheels that are 4" wide and it has a 9" bore. How does that compare to yours? Thanks Tom Winland Columbus, Ohio gasenginetom.com > From: bboyce at swat.coop > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:47:06 -0500 > Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover > > here are a couple of pics of the stover,,, piston being installed > bill boyce > lost prairie, arkansas > http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416054367183 > > http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/photo.php?pid=112875&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416191033836 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From rotigel at me.com Mon Jun 21 11:57:09 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:57:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: References: <9278C01249AA402BA8D7359E14AC40E4@billPC> Message-ID: Hi Bill, Be VERY careful of your wording in answering Tom's question! Dave On Jun 21, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Tom Winland wrote: > > Hi Bill, > > > > I'm going after a big Stover this weekend in the wild and I will > probably be asking you some questions about yours. The one I'm > going after has 54 or 55" flywheels that are 4" wide and it has a 9" > bore. How does that compare to yours? > > > > Thanks > Tom Winland > > Columbus, Ohio > > gasenginetom.com > >> From: bboyce at swat.coop >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:47:06 -0500 >> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover >> >> here are a couple of pics of the stover,,, piston being installed >> bill boyce >> lost prairie, arkansas >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/ >> photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416054367183 >> >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/ >> photo.php?pid=112875&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416191033836 >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your > inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Mon Jun 21 12:06:21 2010 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:06:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: References: <9278C01249AA402BA8D7359E14AC40E4@billPC>, , Message-ID: To clarify Bill, I'm not sure what HP mine is and trying to figure out what HP it is because there isn't a tag on it. :) I will post some pictures once it's out of the woods :) lol Thanks Tom > From: rotigel at me.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:57:09 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover > > Hi Bill, Be VERY careful of your wording in answering Tom's question! > Dave > > On Jun 21, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Tom Winland wrote: > > > > > Hi Bill, > > > > > > > > I'm going after a big Stover this weekend in the wild and I will > > probably be asking you some questions about yours. The one I'm > > going after has 54 or 55" flywheels that are 4" wide and it has a 9" > > bore. How does that compare to yours? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > Tom Winland > > > > Columbus, Ohio > > > > gasenginetom.com > > > >> From: bboyce at swat.coop > >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:47:06 -0500 > >> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover > >> > >> here are a couple of pics of the stover,,, piston being installed > >> bill boyce > >> lost prairie, arkansas > >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/ > >> photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416054367183 > >> > >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/ > >> photo.php?pid=112875&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416191033836 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your > > inbox. > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From gastzt at aol.com Mon Jun 21 13:41:38 2010 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 16:41:38 EDT Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover Message-ID: <133a3.664e4654.39512882@aol.com> OH MY GOSH! What a bore! S Zettner Old Stovers From marinesurveys at msn.com Mon Jun 21 14:30:28 2010 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:30:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: References: <9278C01249AA402BA8D7359E14AC40E4@billPC>, , Message-ID: Pix would be a lot better, some ppl dont use facebook Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: rotigel at me.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:57:09 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover > > Hi Bill, Be VERY careful of your wording in answering Tom's question! > Dave > > On Jun 21, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Tom Winland wrote: > > > > > Hi Bill, > > > > > > > > I'm going after a big Stover this weekend in the wild and I will > > probably be asking you some questions about yours. The one I'm > > going after has 54 or 55" flywheels that are 4" wide and it has a 9" > > bore. How does that compare to yours? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > Tom Winland > > > > Columbus, Ohio > > > > gasenginetom.com > > > >> From: bboyce at swat.coop > >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:47:06 -0500 > >> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover > >> > >> here are a couple of pics of the stover,,, piston being installed > >> bill boyce > >> lost prairie, arkansas > >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/ > >> photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416054367183 > >> > >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/ > >> photo.php?pid=112875&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416191033836 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your > > inbox. > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bboyce at swat.coop Mon Jun 21 14:42:53 2010 From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 16:42:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: References: <9278C01249AA402BA8D7359E14AC40E4@billPC>, , Message-ID: <8F3484188BA047E4B69BD1FDE3C98799@billPC> tom,, take pictures of the recovery and not just after you get it home,, those are always fun to see,,,,,, mine was picked up at a shop, so i had no exciting recovery pictures,,,,,,mine is without a tag also, just had to take the guy's word that it's a 22 hp model,,,,,, piston went in easy, bore is excellent and rings are all good,,, main brgs had been repoured and a new con ron brass brg had been built,, so lots of the hard work is already over with,,,, going to re-surface the head and build a few other parts,, bill boyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Winland" To: "SEL list" Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover > > To clarify Bill, I'm not sure what HP mine is and trying to figure out > what HP it is because there isn't a tag on it. :) > > > > I will post some pictures once it's out of the woods :) lol > > > > Thanks > Tom > >> From: rotigel at me.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:57:09 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover >> >> Hi Bill, Be VERY careful of your wording in answering Tom's question! >> Dave >> >> On Jun 21, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Tom Winland wrote: >> >> > >> > Hi Bill, >> > >> > >> > >> > I'm going after a big Stover this weekend in the wild and I will >> > probably be asking you some questions about yours. The one I'm >> > going after has 54 or 55" flywheels that are 4" wide and it has a 9" >> > bore. How does that compare to yours? >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks >> > Tom Winland >> > >> > Columbus, Ohio >> > >> > gasenginetom.com >> > >> >> From: bboyce at swat.coop >> >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:47:06 -0500 >> >> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover >> >> >> >> here are a couple of pics of the stover,,, piston being installed >> >> bill boyce >> >> lost prairie, arkansas >> >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/ >> >> photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416054367183 >> >> >> >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/ >> >> photo.php?pid=112875&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416191033836 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SEL mailing list >> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your >> > inbox. >> > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SEL mailing list >> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Mon Jun 21 15:33:21 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:33:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: References: <9278C01249AA402BA8D7359E14AC40E4@billPC> Message-ID: What is a facebook? Is that the place where you need to tell all your friends every time you use the toilet? Dave PS, Also, What's a ppl? On Jun 21, 2010, at 5:30 PM, frank skinner wrote: > > Pix would be a lot better, some ppl dont use facebook > > Franklin S. Skinner > Marine Surveyor & Consultant > 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 > 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West > PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > > > > >> From: rotigel at me.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:57:09 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover >> >> Hi Bill, Be VERY careful of your wording in answering Tom's question! >> Dave >> >> On Jun 21, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Tom Winland wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Bill, >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm going after a big Stover this weekend in the wild and I will >>> probably be asking you some questions about yours. The one I'm >>> going after has 54 or 55" flywheels that are 4" wide and it has a 9" >>> bore. How does that compare to yours? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> Tom Winland >>> >>> Columbus, Ohio >>> >>> gasenginetom.com >>> >>>> From: bboyce at swat.coop >>>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:47:06 -0500 >>>> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover >>>> >>>> here are a couple of pics of the stover,,, piston being installed >>>> bill boyce >>>> lost prairie, arkansas >>>> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/ >>>> photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416054367183 >>>> >>>> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/ >>>> photo.php?pid=112875&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416191033836 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your >>> inbox. >>> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Mon Jun 21 15:56:16 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 08:56:16 +1000 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Tom, According to the catalogue 54" flywheels would be a 18hp engine. Patrick On 22/6/10 4:14 AM, "Tom Winland" wrote: > > Hi Bill, > > > > I'm going after a big Stover this weekend in the wild and I will probably be > asking you some questions about yours. The one I'm going after has 54 or 55" > flywheels that are 4" wide and it has a 9" bore. How does that compare to > yours? > > > > Thanks > Tom Winland > > Columbus, Ohio > > gasenginetom.com Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From rotigel at me.com Mon Jun 21 17:47:34 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:47:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland ATIS Charity Dinner and Auction Message-ID: <3845FE46-BBD8-451C-AF66-42A20E7ADE9C@me.com> Hi All, Once again it's time to plan for the Annual ATIS Dinner and Charity Auction during the Portland Show in August! Again this year the dinner/ auction will be at the Back 40 Junction in Decatur. (See: http://back40junction.com/default.aspx) The Back 40 is at 1011 North 13th Street (that's Rt. 27) in Decatur, about 25 miles North of the show grounds. It's on the West side of Rt. 27 at the North end of town. As usual the dinner will be at 6:00 p.m. on Thursday, August the 26th, and the charity auction will follow. Although not necessary for attendance, I do wish you would let me know if you plan to attend so that I can give Ellen an approximate number. (Off list would be best. I'm at rotigel at me.com) We, once again, will have the back room to ourselves for the dinner and auction! Please start thinking about what you plan to donate to the auction and start saving your money in order to bid--early and often as well as against yourself when necessary. ATIS has raised a good amount of money for some very worthwhile causes over the years. Let's keep that tradition alive once again this year! Dave at rotigel at me.com PS, If you have already contacted me about the dinner please do so again. I have not kept "numbers" until now. From bboyce at swat.coop Mon Jun 21 20:06:56 2010 From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:06:56 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: References: <9278C01249AA402BA8D7359E14AC40E4@billPC> Message-ID: <67B404404ECA4CB08C1868D89CF69288@billPC> tom, i measured and found the bore to be 9 5/8 inches, flywheel diameter of 59 inches with a face of 4 inches,, stroke is 14 inches.....so maybe someone can confirm the hp,,,wish i knew the weight of it also bill boyce lost prairie, arkansas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Winland" To: "SEL list" Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover > > Hi Bill, > > > > I'm going after a big Stover this weekend in the wild and I will probably > be asking you some questions about yours. The one I'm going after has 54 > or 55" flywheels that are 4" wide and it has a 9" bore. How does that > compare to yours? > > > > Thanks > Tom Winland > > Columbus, Ohio > > gasenginetom.com > >> From: bboyce at swat.coop >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:47:06 -0500 >> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover >> >> here are a couple of pics of the stover,,, piston being installed >> bill boyce >> lost prairie, arkansas >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416054367183 >> >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/photo.php?pid=112875&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416191033836 >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Mon Jun 21 20:18:24 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:18:24 +1000 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: <67B404404ECA4CB08C1868D89CF69288@billPC> Message-ID: Hi Bill, I have the 22hp having 58" flywheels. The shipping weight is shown as 5100lbs. This is from Stover Catalogue No.20. Patrick : > tom, i measured and found the bore to be 9 5/8 inches, flywheel diameter of > 59 inches with a face of 4 inches,, stroke is 14 inches.....so maybe someone > can confirm the hp,,,wish i knew the weight of it also > bill boyce > lost prairie, arkansas > Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From bboyce at swat.coop Mon Jun 21 20:42:05 2010 From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:42:05 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <08D9E15146C94A91977F6CF4D4AB7164@billPC> patrick, what is the bore on your engine ? bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Livingstone" To: "ATIS" Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover > Hi Bill, > I have the 22hp having 58" flywheels. The shipping weight is shown as > 5100lbs. This is from Stover Catalogue No.20. > Patrick > > > : > >> tom, i measured and found the bore to be 9 5/8 inches, flywheel diameter >> of >> 59 inches with a face of 4 inches,, stroke is 14 inches.....so maybe >> someone >> can confirm the hp,,,wish i knew the weight of it also >> bill boyce >> lost prairie, arkansas >> > > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From pcgray at zoominternet.net Tue Jun 22 02:29:21 2010 From: pcgray at zoominternet.net (Paul + Colleen Gray) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 05:29:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed Portland, OR to Portland, IN summer show In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2502AB98-6389-47DC-B080-26082B0C7004@zoominternet.net> All- -Looking for a ride for an engine of about 400 lbs from the Portland, OR area to Portland, IN summer show. I'll be glad to pay the hauling party a generous amount for picking it up and delivering it to Portland, IN show. Might be a good way to defray your trip costs. Was good to see many of you at the Coolspring show this past week- there was a nice selection of engines and some unique iron on display. Let me know if you can/want to help out. All the best- Paul Gray pcgray at zoominternet.net From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Tue Jun 22 01:27:43 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:27:43 +1000 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: <08D9E15146C94A91977F6CF4D4AB7164@billPC> Message-ID: Hi Bill, I only have a DX 6hp & a YB 6hp. I think I have a couple of other catalogues with more info. Have you sent your engine number off to Joe Maurer? He can look it up in the factory records and add it to the Stover register. Patrick On 22/6/10 1:42 PM, "bill boyce" wrote: > patrick, what is the bore on your engine ? > bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick Livingstone" > To: "ATIS" > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:18 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover > > >> Hi Bill, >> I have the 22hp having 58" flywheels. The shipping weight is shown as >> 5100lbs. This is from Stover Catalogue No.20. >> Patrick >> >> >> : >> >>> tom, i measured and found the bore to be 9 5/8 inches, flywheel diameter >>> of >>> 59 inches with a face of 4 inches,, stroke is 14 inches.....so maybe >>> someone >>> can confirm the hp,,,wish i knew the weight of it also >>> bill boyce >>> lost prairie, arkansas >>> >> >> >> >> Patrick M Livingstone >> Leichhardt NSW >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Tue Jun 22 05:45:30 2010 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 08:45:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Thanks Patrick > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 08:56:16 +1000 > From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover > > Hi Tom, > According to the catalogue 54" flywheels would be a 18hp engine. > Patrick > > > On 22/6/10 4:14 AM, "Tom Winland" wrote: > > > > > Hi Bill, > > > > > > > > I'm going after a big Stover this weekend in the wild and I will probably be > > asking you some questions about yours. The one I'm going after has 54 or 55" > > flywheels that are 4" wide and it has a 9" bore. How does that compare to > > yours? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > Tom Winland > > > > Columbus, Ohio > > > > gasenginetom.com > > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From George_Best at adp.com Tue Jun 22 07:01:42 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:01:42 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D898FAE@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Tom, Finally got around last night to checking my 18hp Stover L. The flywheels on mine are just over 4" wide and somewhere between 54" to 55" flywheels. The piston is 8-3/4". If yours has a 9" bore, I would guess it might be a 20hp or 22hp size. I know they made 22hp, but not sure they made a 20hp one. I know the tag is missing from your engine, but if you could get the serial number then Joe could tell you exactly what you have. My engine has the serial number tag, but I also found the serial number stamped on the head. It was stamped about the 1 o'clock position on the side of the head close to the head gasket. Wasn't stamped real clearly, but it did match my serial tag. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From George_Best at adp.com Tue Jun 22 08:24:06 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:24:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D898FAE@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: , <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D898FAE@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D8992A1@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Tom, After reading Patrick's posting on the 22hp Stover, I'm sure that your engine must also be a 18hp like mine. I'm guessing the difference in bore diameter may be due to measuring differences and rounding to nearest inch. Will be interested in seeing pictures of your engine and comparing differences between our two engines. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 7:02 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover Tom, Finally got around last night to checking my 18hp Stover L. The flywheels on mine are just over 4" wide and somewhere between 54" to 55" flywheels. The piston is 8-3/4". If yours has a 9" bore, I would guess it might be a 20hp or 22hp size. I know they made 22hp, but not sure they made a 20hp one. I know the tag is missing from your engine, but if you could get the serial number then Joe could tell you exactly what you have. My engine has the serial number tag, but I also found the serial number stamped on the head. It was stamped about the 1 o'clock position on the side of the head close to the head gasket. Wasn't stamped real clearly, but it did match my serial tag. 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From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Jun 22 09:12:49 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 12:12:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed Portland, OR to Portland, IN summer show In-Reply-To: <2502AB98-6389-47DC-B080-26082B0C7004@zoominternet.net> References: <2502AB98-6389-47DC-B080-26082B0C7004@zoominternet.net> Message-ID: So Paul, didja score a nice Myrick Junior on the left coast after looking at that one at Coolspring? 8-)) See ya, Arnie On Tue, June 22, 2010 5:29 am, Paul + Colleen Gray wrote: > All- > -Looking for a ride for an engine of about 400 lbs from the Portland, > OR area to Portland, IN summer show. From George_Best at adp.com Tue Jun 22 09:41:13 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:41:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed Portland, OR to Portland, IN summer show In-Reply-To: References: <2502AB98-6389-47DC-B080-26082B0C7004@zoominternet.net> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D8995C6@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Paul, If you just need it stored on the left coast, I live near Portland Oregon and work in Portland. ;-) I'd love to haul it to the Portland show for you, but unfortunately I've used most of my vacation time this year and don't have enough left to do a road trip to Portland IN. I'd love to go to the Portland show again as it's been a few years since I've gone back there. Having to work and use vacation time really sucks some times :-( George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From rdhaskell at juno.com Tue Jun 22 13:19:49 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:19:49 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Spam> New FM at Vista Ca. Message-ID: <20100622.131955.1000.195201@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> Hi all. Just got back from the Steam and Gas Museum at Vista Ca. They got a BIG Fairbanks Morse engine delivered and set today. A donation from Southern California Edison. Provided power on Catalina Island. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/BigFM# Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Refinance Now 4.0% FIXED! $160,000 Mortgage for $633/mo. Free. No Obligation. Get 4 Quotes! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c211b1962f9a521591st02vuc From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Jun 22 14:22:46 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:22:46 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam> New FM at Vista Ca. In-Reply-To: <20100622.131955.1000.195201@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Ron: Now that's just the cutest l'il genset I done ever saw ....... 'Cept at the Paris, KY municipal generating plant. The Paris plant has two of those (or are they inline 8 cylinder??), two 10 cylinder O.P. sets, two of the later super/turbocharged O.P. sets and a smaller O.P. out of a Navy tin can for station use. All of the gensets run and the switchgear is all in place and operational. The Paris plant is kept ready for standby use and it is a feature of the engine show there each year. They have shuttle tours to the plant where they start-up one of the S.P. sets and put it on line then take it off, shut it down and start one of the O.P. sets and put it on line. Nice show. If I ever get back there for the show, I'm gonna take the camcorder and make a record of the runs. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of rdhaskell at juno.com Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:20 PM To: Wapa-members at rustyiron.com; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] Spam> New FM at Vista Ca. Hi all. Just got back from the Steam and Gas Museum at Vista Ca. They got a BIG Fairbanks Morse engine delivered and set today. A donation from Southern California Edison. Provided power on Catalina Island. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/BigFM# Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell From gastzt at aol.com Tue Jun 22 14:25:56 2010 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:25:56 EDT Subject: [SEL] Spam> New FM at Vista Ca. Message-ID: <6c74d.15285578.39528464@aol.com> In a message dated 6/22/2010 3:29:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rdhaskell at juno.com writes: http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/BigFM# Hey RON--- THANKS so much for the GREAT pictures---really GREAT! Stan Zettner, Pleasanton, Texas "Old Stovers" From page at velocitynet.com.au Wed Jun 23 01:33:59 2010 From: page at velocitynet.com.au (Ron Page) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:33:59 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Help required In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004501cb12ae$d439fa50$6c3bfea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> Hi all A friend of mine is in the process of restoring an old chain saw. It is a Whitehead chain saw powered by a Westbend engine of 95cc or 5.8 cubic inches made in 1962. He is wanting any info on this equipment and also what sort of paint to use that will not wash off when in contact with petrol/gas. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks Ron Canberra From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Wed Jun 23 11:43:34 2010 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:43:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] New FM at Vista Ca. Message-ID: Wait 'til you hear that sweetie run, Ron. They are so quiet - well, except for the stack music. If you have any influence in the matter, try to get them to start it up once before the exhaust system is hooked up! This gaggle of engines is in Lathrop, MO, salvaged from the old Pattonsburg, MO powerhouse. The old town of Pattonsburg was abandoned after the floods of '93, and moved to higher ground. Read the story in this GEM article of how the engines came to be where they are. No sweeter music anywhere. http://gasengine.farmcollector.com/gas-engines/Salute-to-a-Dream.aspx Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Wed Jun 23 12:23:14 2010 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:23:14 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New FM at Vista Ca. References: Message-ID: Hi Bruce, I am part of the team that will be getting it running. We have a lot to do before it becomes functional. some of the things are; Remove all of the grout from the leveling screw holes and clean out the threads. Level the engine with respect to the generator, this will take a while as both units total about 50 tons. Grout the engine and the generator mounts. Remake all of the nuts that go through the flange that connect the engine to the generator. These were torched off by the riggers that moved the machine. They also damaged the bolts these nuts go onto. Repairing these will be a big job. Make a new cooling system from scratch as Edison threw away the old one years ago. Plumb this up to air system. The existing air system nay need additional reservoir capacity in addition to what is already there. Probably be some other things that have not surfaced yet. I think it will take at least year of weekends to get the engine running and that may be optomistic. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes jd.kirkes at verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Younger" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:43 AM Subject: [SEL] New FM at Vista Ca. Wait 'til you hear that sweetie run, Ron. They are so quiet - well, except for the stack music. If you have any influence in the matter, try to get them to start it up once before the exhaust system is hooked up! This gaggle of engines is in Lathrop, MO, salvaged from the old Pattonsburg, MO powerhouse. The old town of Pattonsburg was abandoned after the floods of '93, and moved to higher ground. Read the story in this GEM article of how the engines came to be where they are. No sweeter music anywhere. http://gasengine.farmcollector.com/gas-engines/Salute-to-a-Dream.aspx Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From marinesurveys at msn.com Wed Jun 23 12:43:53 2010 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:43:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] New FM at Vista Ca. In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Jim; Those F/M's are easy to work on & run well, that engine probably needs little to make her fire up, I've re-activated them that were laid up 6 to 10 years with very little effort,starting air is 250 PSI btw Qiuncy 325's or 340's are the very best for the job, they will actuall pump close to 600 PSI. Quincy 325's & 340's are the standard of the tugboat industry. Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:23:14 -0700 > Subject: Re: [SEL] New FM at Vista Ca. > > Hi Bruce, > > I am part of the team that will be getting it running. We > have a lot to do before it becomes functional. some of the > things are; > > Remove all of the grout from the leveling screw holes and > clean out the threads. > Level the engine with respect to the generator, this will > take a while as both units total about 50 tons. > Grout the engine and the generator mounts. > Remake all of the nuts that go through the flange that > connect the engine to the generator. These were torched off > by the riggers that moved the machine. They also damaged > the bolts these nuts go onto. Repairing these will be a big > job. > Make a new cooling system from scratch as Edison threw away > the old one years ago. > Plumb this up to air system. The existing air system nay > need additional reservoir capacity in addition to what is > already there. > > Probably be some other things that have not surfaced yet. I > think it will take at least year of weekends to get the > engine running and that may be optomistic. > > Jim > > Jim and Diane Kirkes > jd.kirkes at verizon.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Younger" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:43 AM > Subject: [SEL] New FM at Vista Ca. > > > > Wait 'til you hear that sweetie run, Ron. They are so > quiet - well, except for the stack music. If you have any > influence in the matter, try to get them to start it up once > before the exhaust system is hooked up! > > This gaggle of engines is in Lathrop, MO, salvaged from the > old Pattonsburg, MO powerhouse. The old town of Pattonsburg > was abandoned after the floods of '93, and moved to higher > ground. Read the story in this GEM article of how the > engines came to be where they are. No sweeter music > anywhere. > > http://gasengine.farmcollector.com/gas-engines/Salute-to-a-Dream.aspx > > Bruce Younger > > 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 > > Madison, SD > > sluggo54 at hotmail.com > > > > "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those > that have hunted > armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything > else thereafter." > > E. Hemingway > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail > accounts with Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Jun 23 12:44:20 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:44:20 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New FM at Vista Ca. Message-ID: <20100623.124449.989.195154@mailpop09.vgs.untd.com> Very interesting article Bruce. Thanks Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:43:34 -0500 Bruce Younger writes: > > Wait 'til you hear that sweetie run, Ron. They are so quiet - well, > except for the stack music. If you have any influence in the > matter, try to get them to start it up once before the exhaust > system is hooked up! > > This gaggle of engines is in Lathrop, MO, salvaged from the old > Pattonsburg, MO powerhouse. The old town of Pattonsburg was > abandoned after the floods of '93, and moved to higher ground. Read > the story in this GEM article of how the engines came to be where > they are. No sweeter music anywhere. > > http://gasengine.farmcollector.com/gas-engines/Salute-to-a-Dream.aspx > > Bruce Younger > > 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 > > Madison, SD > > sluggo54 at hotmail.com ____________________________________________________________ TODAY: iPads for $123.74? Alert: iPads are being auctioned on SwipeBids.com for 95% off today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c22645877971143a2st02vuc From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Jun 23 12:49:54 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:49:54 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New FM at Vista Ca. Message-ID: <20100623.125051.989.195168@mailpop09.vgs.untd.com> Thanks for the report Jim. Before you start making nuts and bolts, put out a request on the lists. I have had over 400 hits on my pictures on Harry's page and several replies from web friends. There are some spare nuts out there somewhere. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:23:14 -0700 "Jim Kirkes" writes: > Hi Bruce, > > I am part of the team that will be getting it running. We > have a lot to do before it becomes functional. some of the > things are; > > Remove all of the grout from the leveling screw holes and > clean out the threads. > Level the engine with respect to the generator, this will > take a while as both units total about 50 tons. > Grout the engine and the generator mounts. > Remake all of the nuts that go through the flange that > connect the engine to the generator. These were torched off > by the riggers that moved the machine. They also damaged > the bolts these nuts go onto. Repairing these will be a big > job. > Make a new cooling system from scratch as Edison threw away > the old one years ago. > Plumb this up to air system. The existing air system nay > need additional reservoir capacity in addition to what is > already there. > > Probably be some other things that have not surfaced yet. I > think it will take at least year of weekends to get the > engine running and that may be optomistic. > > Jim > > Jim and Diane Kirkes > jd.kirkes at verizon.net ____________________________________________________________ TODAY: iPads for $123.74? Alert: iPads are being auctioned on SwipeBids.com for 95% off today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c2265c5878b74a31d6st03vuc From pcgray at zoominternet.net Wed Jun 23 14:19:48 2010 From: pcgray at zoominternet.net (Paul + Colleen Gray) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:19:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Engine hauling - it's a go! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fellow Ferrites- George Best graciously agreed to take possession of the engine for me at the Brooks, OR show. Yipeeee!!! No trip to Portland but we'll sort out getting it here over the next few months. Arnie- no it is not a Jr... it is a one-off or low production engine they made in the late teens/early 20's. She needs some work but some of you know I like challenges. All the best- Paul From tchristoff at earthlink.net Wed Jun 23 16:15:03 2010 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Engine hauling - it's a go! Message-ID: <22035780.1277334903242.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Paul, if it can make it's way to KS, I can haul it to Portland. Tim Christoff -----Original Message----- >From: Paul + Colleen Gray >Sent: Jun 23, 2010 5:19 PM >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Subject: [SEL] Engine hauling - it's a go! > >Fellow Ferrites- > >George Best graciously agreed to take possession of the engine for me >at the Brooks, OR show. Yipeeee!!! >No trip to Portland but we'll sort out getting it here over the next >few months. >Arnie- no it is not a Jr... it is a one-off or low production engine >they made in the late teens/early 20's. > >She needs some work but some of you know I like challenges. > >All the best- > >Paul >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From toadhill at aeroinc.net Wed Jun 23 17:28:09 2010 From: toadhill at aeroinc.net (toadhill at aeroinc.net) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:28:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine Message-ID: Tom, Some 20hp Stovers do show up in the records. Send me the serial number and I'll tell you what the factory says it is and where they shipped it. toadhill at aeroinc.net Best Regards, Joe From maytagtwin at aol.com Wed Jun 23 21:38:28 2010 From: maytagtwin at aol.com (maytagtwin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:38:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] need repair and or owner's manual for small John Deere lawnmower In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CCE16E38AEA02C-728-52C4@webmail-d079.sysops.aol.com> Hi Folks, I have received a request from a friend who has acquired a John Deere lawnmower and needs a repair and or operators manual(s). Please advise me if you have such, or have a good source. The identification tag on the mower reads: John Deere GX14SBF405108 14SB 2.6 KW JSD9410 45 KG Regards, Ron Carroll Clearmont, MO USA -----Original Message----- From: toadhill at aeroinc.net To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Wed, Jun 23, 2010 7:28 pm Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine Tom, Some 20hp Stovers do show up in the records. Send me he serial number and I'll tell you what the factory ays it is and where they shipped it. toadhill at aeroinc.net Best Regards, Joe _______________________________________________ EL mailing list EL at lists.stationary-engine.com ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Jun 23 22:04:30 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:04:30 -0700 Subject: [SEL] need repair and or owner's manual for small John Deere lawnmower Message-ID: <20100623.220445.22947.117439@mailpop04.vgs.untd.com> Call the John Deere Distribution Center at: 800-522-7448 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:38:28 -0400 maytagtwin at aol.com writes: > > Hi Folks, > I have received a request from a friend who has acquired a John > Deere lawnmower and needs a repair and or operators manual(s). > Please advise me if you have such, or have a good source. > > The identification tag on the mower reads: > > John Deere > GX14SBF405108 > 14SB 2.6 KW > JSD9410 45 KG > > Regards, > Ron Carroll > Clearmont, MO USA ____________________________________________________________ iPads for $23.48? Special Report: iPads & Laptops are being auctioned for an incredible 85% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c22e7a0ed996559c82st05vuc From maytagtwin at aol.com Wed Jun 23 22:14:59 2010 From: maytagtwin at aol.com (maytagtwin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 01:14:59 -0400 Subject: [SEL] need repair and or owner's manual for small John Deere lawnmower In-Reply-To: <20100623.220445.22947.117439@mailpop04.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100623.220445.22947.117439@mailpop04.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <8CCE1735372FB85-728-55B1@webmail-d079.sysops.aol.com> Hi Ron, Thank you. I'll pass your suggestion on. Ron -----Original Message----- From: rdhaskell at juno.com To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Thu, Jun 24, 2010 12:04 am Subject: Re: [SEL] need repair and or owner's manual for small John Deere lawnmower Call the John Deere Distribution Center at: 800-522-7448 Ron Haskell dhaskell at juno.com iverside, California USA ttp://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:38:28 -0400 maytagtwin at aol.com writes: Hi Folks, I have received a request from a friend who has acquired a John Deere lawnmower and needs a repair and or operators manual(s). Please advise me if you have such, or have a good source. The identification tag on the mower reads: John Deere GX14SBF405108 14SB 2.6 KW JSD9410 45 KG Regards, Ron Carroll Clearmont, MO USA ___________________________________________________________ Pads for $23.48? pecial Report: iPads & Laptops are being auctioned for an incredible 85% off! ttp://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c22e7a0ed996559c82st05vuc ______________________________________________ EL mailing list EL at lists.stationary-engine.com ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From DDK at Kahlers.net Wed Jun 23 22:20:39 2010 From: DDK at Kahlers.net (Darrell Kahler) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:20:39 -0700 Subject: [SEL] need repair and or owner's manual for small John Deere lawnmower In-Reply-To: <8CCE16E38AEA02C-728-52C4@webmail-d079.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCE16E38AEA02C-728-52C4@webmail-d079.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000a01cb135c$fdaf1560$f90d4020$@net> Try this.... Copy and paste it into your browser if it doesn't show as a link. http://www.deere.com/en_US/ProductCatalog/GC/servlet/servlet/com.deere.u9078 5.cce.productcatalog.view.servlets.PublicationsSearchServlet?userAction=publ icationsSearchResults&entryPoint=other&orderBy=pubType&tM=GC&searchCriteria= 14sb&submit=Search&language=english Here's how I got there...... go to JD's website(www.deere.com), click on commercial, click services and support, click the technical service publications button on the left side, click search for operators manuals(or parts manuals if you want one of those too). Th actual model number part of what's on that SN plate is 14sb. Just type that in and search. I use this quite a bit for work. So far it's worked for every machine I've come across. Hope it works! Darrell Kahler Portland, OR USA ddk at kahlers.net -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of maytagtwin at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:38 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] need repair and or owner's manual for small John Deere lawnmower Hi Folks, I have received a request from a friend who has acquired a John Deere lawnmower and needs a repair and or operators manual(s). Please advise me if you have such, or have a good source. The identification tag on the mower reads: John Deere GX14SBF405108 14SB 2.6 KW JSD9410 45 KG Regards, Ron Carroll Clearmont, MO USA -----Original Message----- From: toadhill at aeroinc.net To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Wed, Jun 23, 2010 7:28 pm Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine Tom, Some 20hp Stovers do show up in the records. Send me he serial number and I'll tell you what the factory ays it is and where they shipped it. toadhill at aeroinc.net Best Regards, Joe _______________________________________________ EL mailing list EL at lists.stationary-engine.com ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2598 - Release Date: 01/03/10 09:41:00 From maytagtwin at aol.com Wed Jun 23 22:43:13 2010 From: maytagtwin at aol.com (maytagtwin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 01:43:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] need repair and or owner's manual for small John Deere lawnmower In-Reply-To: <000a01cb135c$fdaf1560$f90d4020$@net> References: <8CCE16E38AEA02C-728-52C4@webmail-d079.sysops.aol.com> <000a01cb135c$fdaf1560$f90d4020$@net> Message-ID: <8CCE17745708C51-728-5776@webmail-d079.sysops.aol.com> Hi Darrell, Thank you. I'll tell my friend about this. Ron -----Original Message----- From: Darrell Kahler To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Sent: Thu, Jun 24, 2010 12:20 am Subject: Re: [SEL] need repair and or owner's manual for small John Deere lawnmower Try this.... Copy and paste it into your browser if it doesn't show as a ink. ttp://www.deere.com/en_US/ProductCatalog/GC/servlet/servlet/com.deere.u9078 .cce.productcatalog.view.servlets.PublicationsSearchServlet?userAction=publ cationsSearchResults&entryPoint=other&orderBy=pubType&tM=GC&searchCriteria= 4sb&submit=Search&language=english ere's how I got there...... go to JD's website(www.deere.com), click on ommercial, click services and support, click the technical service ublications button on the left side, click search for operators manuals(or arts manuals if you want one of those too). Th actual model number part of what's on that SN plate is 14sb. Just type that in and search. I use this quite a bit for work. So far it's worked for every machine I've ome across. Hope it works! Darrell Kahler ortland, OR USA dk at kahlers.net ----Original Message----- rom: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of aytagtwin at aol.com ent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:38 PM o: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com ubject: [SEL] need repair and or owner's manual for small John Deere awnmower i Folks, have received a request from a friend who has acquired a John Deere awnmower and needs a repair and or operators manual(s). Please advise me f you have such, or have a good source. The identification tag on the mower reads: John Deere X14SBF405108 4SB 2.6 KW SD9410 45 KG Regards, on Carroll learmont, MO USA ----Original Message----- rom: toadhill at aeroinc.net o: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com ent: Wed, Jun 23, 2010 7:28 pm ubject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine om, ome 20hp Stovers do show up in the records. Send me e serial number and I'll tell you what the factory ys it is and where they shipped it. oadhill at aeroinc.net est Regards, oe ______________________________________________ L mailing list L at lists.stationary-engine.com tp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ EL mailing list EL at lists.stationary-engine.com ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel nternal Virus Database is out of date. hecked by AVG - www.avg.com ersion: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2598 - Release Date: 01/03/10 9:41:00 _______________________________________________ EL mailing list EL at lists.stationary-engine.com ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Jun 24 03:39:02 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (plowe at exemail.com.au) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 06:39:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland ATIS Charity Dinner and Auction Message-ID: <380-2201064241039294@M2W108.mail2web.com> Surely if I can travel 10,000 miles to the dinner, everyone can drive the 25 miles from Portland to attend ;-))))))lets make it a great get together. Peter, Oz Hi All, Once again it's time to plan for the Annual ATIS Dinner and Charity Auction during the Portland Show in August! Again this year the dinner/ auction will be at the Back 40 Junction in Decatur. (See: http://back40junction.com/default.aspx) The Back 40 is at 1011 North 13th Street (that's Rt. 27) in Decatur, about 25 miles North of the show grounds. It's on the West side of Rt. 27 at the North end of town. As usual the dinner will be at 6:00 p.m. on Thursday, August the 26th, and the charity auction will follow. Although not necessary for attendance, I do wish you would let me know if you plan to attend so that I can give Ellen an approximate number. (Off list would be best. I'm at rotigel at me.com) We, once again, will have the back room to ourselves for the dinner and auction! Please start thinking about what you plan to donate to the auction and start saving your money in order to bid--early and often as well as against yourself when necessary. ATIS has raised a good amount of money for some very worthwhile causes over the years. Let's keep that tradition alive once again this year! Dave at rotigel at me.com PS, If you have already contacted me about the dinner please do so again. I have not kept "numbers" until now. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Thu Jun 24 08:18:21 2010 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 11:18:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Joe, I'm going to retrieve it Saturday and I'll take some pictures and get the serial # for you. Tom > From: toadhill at aeroinc.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:28:09 -0500 > Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine > > Tom, > > Some 20hp Stovers do show up in the records. Send me > the serial number and I'll tell you what the factory > says it is and where they shipped it. > > toadhill at aeroinc.net > > Best Regards, > > Joe > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Fri Jun 25 15:42:12 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:42:12 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland camping area Message-ID: Help. Is anyone doing the campsite saving this year? Tom Ball is bringing his motorhome as a base for us during the show and needs to have a spot saved for it. Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Sun Jun 27 16:37:45 2010 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:37:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Joe, I couldn't find any serial #'s on it. Now that I have it at home I could take better measurements and the bore is 8 1/2" with 54 1/2" X 4 1/4" flywheels Here is a link to some pictures http://gasenginetom.com/large_stover.html Any ideas what bolts on in front of the fuel pump. Thanks Tom Winland Ohio > From: toadhill at aeroinc.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:28:09 -0500 > Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine > > Tom, > > Some 20hp Stovers do show up in the records. Send me > the serial number and I'll tell you what the factory > says it is and where they shipped it. > > toadhill at aeroinc.net > > Best Regards, > > Joe > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From edsengns at optusnet.com.au Sun Jun 27 16:38:04 2010 From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:38:04 +1000 Subject: [SEL] non Message-ID: <789E8277EFA74E7098F2000FC6EB84D1@Edd> EDD PAYNE PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W Australia 2852 Phone:0263742387 edsengns at optusnet.com.au edsengns From kkinney at herculesengines.com Sun Jun 27 20:25:40 2010 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:25:40 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both Flywheels wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the hub. I've been watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a few months ago a set came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. and am in Evansville, IN. I was able to get them transported from Conn. to Coolspring show last weekend. Yesterday dad and I took the time to switch them out. One pleasant surprise is that the new flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This means they are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added weight should make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and after video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7z-hKIE_Y Keith Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Mon Jun 28 02:44:40 2010 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:44:40 +0100 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... References: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> Message-ID: <4AB50723A9A34AC1BE216F39C1C569D1@morpheus> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Kinney" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 4:25 AM Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... >I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both Flywheels wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the >hub. I've been watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a few months ago a set came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. >and am in Evansville, IN. I was able to get them transported from Conn. to Coolspring show last weekend. Yesterday dad and I took >the time to switch them out. One pleasant surprise is that the new flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This means they >are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added weight should make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and >after video. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7z-hKIE_Y > Keith Hi Keith, It comes up with the message "This Video is Private" Dave Croft Warrington. http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Mon Jun 28 02:58:20 2010 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 19:58:20 +1000 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... In-Reply-To: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> References: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> Message-ID: <9309CA2C2C3D43DEAAAB0D1CDCD1E35F@KerryPC> Well done Keith Kerry >I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both Flywheels >wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the hub. I've been >watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a few months ago a set >came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. and am in Evansville, IN. I was >able to get them transported from Conn. to Coolspring show last weekend. >Yesterday dad and I took the time to switch them out. One pleasant >surprise is that the new flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This >means they are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added >weight should make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and >after video. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7z-hKIE_Y > Keith > > > Keith Kinney From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Mon Jun 28 03:09:49 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:09:49 +1000 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... References: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> <4AB50723A9A34AC1BE216F39C1C569D1@morpheus> Message-ID: Ditto. the fight to see it made me not look. Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Croft" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Kinney" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 4:25 AM > Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... > > >>I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both Flywheels >>wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the >>hub. I've been watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a few >>months ago a set came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. >>and am in Evansville, IN. I was able to get them transported from Conn. >>to Coolspring show last weekend. Yesterday dad and I took >>the time to switch them out. One pleasant surprise is that the new >>flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This means they >>are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added weight should >>make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and >>after video. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7z-hKIE_Y >> Keith > > Hi Keith, It comes up with the message "This Video is Private" > Dave Croft > Warrington. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Mon Jun 28 03:29:31 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:29:31 +1000 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... In-Reply-To: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> Message-ID: I also get the error message " This video is private." Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From Germoamer at aol.com Mon Jun 28 05:06:48 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:06:48 EDT Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine Message-ID: <1aba4.18e458f5.3959ea58@aol.com> In a message dated 6/27/2010 7:40:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gasenginetom at hotmail.com writes: Here is a link to some pictures Nice find Tom! Is the extra long crankshaft on the other side so that you can install the clutch mechanism on either side? Was that extra long shaft a common practice? Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From George_Best at adp.com Mon Jun 28 07:32:33 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:32:33 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3DAD2F8D@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Tom, Recheck the cylinder head for a serial number. I've seen the serial number stamped on the cylinder head around the 12 o'clock to 1 o'clock area near the head gasket. Just a guess but the extra bolt holes in the engine base could have been for mounting an air starter pump. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tom Winland Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:38 PM To: SEL list Subject: Re: [SEL] Big Stover Engine Hi Joe, I couldn't find any serial #'s on it. Now that I have it at home I could take better measurements and the bore is 8 1/2" with 54 1/2" X 4 1/4" flywheels Here is a link to some pictures http://gasenginetom.com/large_stover.html Any ideas what bolts on in front of the fuel pump. Thanks Tom Winland Ohio This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From George_Best at adp.com Mon Jun 28 07:35:34 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:35:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine In-Reply-To: <1aba4.18e458f5.3959ea58@aol.com> References: <1aba4.18e458f5.3959ea58@aol.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3DAD2FB2@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> My 18hp Stover also has the very long crankshaft. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Germoamer at aol.com Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:07 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] Big Stover Engine In a message dated 6/27/2010 7:40:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gasenginetom at hotmail.com writes: Here is a link to some pictures Nice find Tom! Is the extra long crankshaft on the other side so that you can install the clutch mechanism on either side? Was that extra long shaft a common practice? Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From kkinney at herculesengines.com Mon Jun 28 08:26:05 2010 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:26:05 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... In-Reply-To: <4AB50723A9A34AC1BE216F39C1C569D1@morpheus> References: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> <4AB50723A9A34AC1BE216F39C1C569D1@morpheus> Message-ID: <71CC558F-091D-494A-92D9-53B250FACFB8@herculesengines.com> Sorry about that guys. It should work now. Keith On Jun 28, 2010, at 4:44 AM, Dave Croft wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Kinney" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 4:25 AM > Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... > > >> I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both Flywheels wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the >> hub. I've been watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a few months ago a set came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. >> and am in Evansville, IN. I was able to get them transported from Conn. to Coolspring show last weekend. Yesterday dad and I took >> the time to switch them out. One pleasant surprise is that the new flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This means they >> are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added weight should make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and >> after video. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7z-hKIE_Y >> Keith > > Hi Keith, It comes up with the message "This Video is Private" > Dave Croft > Warrington. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From r7734g at hotmail.com Mon Jun 28 09:17:45 2010 From: r7734g at hotmail.com (Ron Gerlach) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:17:45 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... In-Reply-To: <71CC558F-091D-494A-92D9-53B250FACFB8@herculesengines.com> References: , <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com>, <4AB50723A9A34AC1BE216F39C1C569D1@morpheus>, <71CC558F-091D-494A-92D9-53B250FACFB8@herculesengines.com> Message-ID: Thank you for fixing the link. That is a smooth runner!! > From: kkinney at herculesengines.com > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:26:05 -0500 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... > > Sorry about that guys. It should work now. > Keith > > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 4:44 AM, Dave Croft wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Keith Kinney" > > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 4:25 AM > > Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... > > > > > >> I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both Flywheels wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the > >> hub. I've been watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a few months ago a set came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. > >> and am in Evansville, IN. I was able to get them transported from Conn. to Coolspring show last weekend. Yesterday dad and I took > >> the time to switch them out. One pleasant surprise is that the new flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This means they > >> are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added weight should make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and > >> after video. > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7z-hKIE_Y > >> Keith > > > > Hi Keith, It comes up with the message "This Video is Private" > > Dave Croft > > Warrington. > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ > > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Keith Kinney > kkinney at herculesengines.com > WWW.HerculesEngines.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon Jun 28 09:13:32 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:13:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... In-Reply-To: <71CC558F-091D-494A-92D9-53B250FACFB8@herculesengines.com> Message-ID: Very nice Keith. The extra weight will make it coast and coast..... I didn't know the Thermoil flywheels were heavier than their gas engine brothers. Was this true for all Thermoils or just the later ones? Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Kinney" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 4:25 AM > Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... > > >> I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both Flywheels wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the >> hub. I've been watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a few months ago a set came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. >> and am in Evansville, IN. I was able to get them transported from Conn. to Coolspring show last weekend. Yesterday dad and I took >> the time to switch them out. One pleasant surprise is that the new flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This means they >> are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added weight should make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and >> after video. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7z-hKIE_Y >> Keith From kkinney at herculesengines.com Mon Jun 28 09:29:21 2010 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:29:21 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <77825B10-E285-480A-968F-8F1E0C59425A@herculesengines.com> Thanks Tommy and Ron. These are flywheels from a 7 HP, Model T, Thermoil. I know the flywheels on my 5 HP, Model T, Thermoil are also heavier than the gas engine 5 HP flywheels. Since the Model T engines were the first one's produced by Hercules I guess they were all heavier. In running it yesterday I noticed that the mag didn't always trip correctly. I think once I get that figured out it will be a real nice running engine Keith On Jun 28, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Very nice Keith. The extra weight will make it coast and coast..... I > didn't know the Thermoil flywheels were heavier than their gas engine > brothers. Was this true for all Thermoils or just the later ones? > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Keith Kinney" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 4:25 AM >> Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... >> >> >>> I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both > Flywheels wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the >>> hub. I've been watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a > few months ago a set came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. >>> and am in Evansville, IN. I was able to get them transported from > Conn. to Coolspring show last weekend. Yesterday dad and I took >>> the time to switch them out. One pleasant surprise is that the new > flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This means they >>> are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added weight > should make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and >>> after video. >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7z-hKIE_Y >>> Keith > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From oldironnut at windstream.net Mon Jun 28 10:38:28 2010 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:38:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... In-Reply-To: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> References: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> Message-ID: <28AA2662-DB98-456C-B22F-6649013D0553@windstream.net> Very nice Keith! I love the instructions barked out by your dad.... CHOKE IT! On Jun 27, 2010, at 11:25 PM, Keith Kinney wrote: > I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both Flywheels wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the hub. I've been watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a few months ago a set came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. and am in Evansville, IN. I was able to get them transported from Conn. to Coolspring show last weekend. Yesterday dad and I took the time to switch them out. One pleasant surprise is that the new flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This means they are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added weight should make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and after video. From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Jun 28 11:01:23 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:01:23 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100628195446.00ceae30@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 28/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:37:45 -0400 >From: Tom Winland >Subject: Re: [SEL] Big Stover Engine > >Here is a link to some pictures >http://gasenginetom.com/large_stover.html >Thanks >Tom Winland Very nice pics Tom, Thanks for sharing. Are you left handed ?? :-) (see ) :-) Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Mon Jun 28 11:17:01 2010 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:17:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100628195446.00ceae30@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: , <5.2.1.1.2.20100628195446.00ceae30@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: Thanks Jerry lol I'm right handed and the guy in that picture is who I bought it from and he was running the chain saw when I took that LOL Tom > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:01:23 +0200 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > From: jerrye at databak.co.za > Subject: Re: [SEL] Big Stover Engine > > At 06:00 PM 28/06/2010, you wrote: > >Message: 1 > >Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:37:45 -0400 > >From: Tom Winland > >Subject: Re: [SEL] Big Stover Engine > > > > >Here is a link to some pictures > >http://gasenginetom.com/large_stover.html > > > >Thanks > >Tom Winland > > > > > Very nice pics Tom, > Thanks for sharing. > > Are you left handed ?? :-) (see > ) :-) > > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From kkinney at herculesengines.com Mon Jun 28 12:01:43 2010 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:01:43 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... In-Reply-To: <28AA2662-DB98-456C-B22F-6649013D0553@windstream.net> References: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> <28AA2662-DB98-456C-B22F-6649013D0553@windstream.net> Message-ID: Thanks Mike. I was hoping that wouldn't come through on the video. :-) We finally figured out it was not a fuel issue but an ignition issue. For some reason the trip finger on the push rod was not returning far enough to drop in behind the trip lever of the mag. I didn't have time to fix it but once I do I think it will be a great runner. Keith On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Michael Tucker wrote: > Very nice Keith! I love the instructions barked out by your dad.... CHOKE IT! > > On Jun 27, 2010, at 11:25 PM, Keith Kinney wrote: > >> I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both Flywheels wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the hub. I've been watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a few months ago a set came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. and am in Evansville, IN. I was able to get them transported from Conn. to Coolspring show last weekend. Yesterday dad and I took the time to switch them out. One pleasant surprise is that the new flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This means they are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added weight should make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and after video. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From r7734g at hotmail.com Mon Jun 28 12:34:03 2010 From: r7734g at hotmail.com (Ron Gerlach) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:34:03 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Spam> New FM at Vista Ca. In-Reply-To: <20100622.131955.1000.195201@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100622.131955.1000.195201@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Ron Boy that FM is a beast. It will be fun seeing it run some day. I presume they are going to build a new cover for it and the Clark Brothers engine that will be in front of it. RonG > To: Wapa-members at rustyiron.com; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:19:49 -0700 > From: rdhaskell at juno.com > Subject: [SEL] Spam> New FM at Vista Ca. > > Hi all. > Just got back from the Steam and Gas Museum at Vista Ca. They got a BIG > Fairbanks Morse engine delivered and set today. A donation from Southern > California Edison. Provided power on Catalina Island. > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/BigFM# > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > ____________________________________________________________ > Refinance Now 4.0% FIXED! > $160,000 Mortgage for $633/mo. Free. No Obligation. Get 4 Quotes! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c211b1962f9a521591st02vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Jun 28 12:59:55 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:59:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... In-Reply-To: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> Message-ID: Keith: Hve you counted the revs between hits? Between the wobbling of the flywheels and the time between hits, I almost fell asleep. ...... Well - for me that's not to big of a deal. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Keith Kinney Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:26 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both Flywheels wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the hub. I've been watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a few months ago a set came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. and am in Evansville, IN. I was able to get them transported from Conn. to Coolspring show last weekend. Yesterday dad and I took the time to switch them out. One pleasant surprise is that the new flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This means they are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added weight should make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and after video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7z-hKIE_Y Keith Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Mon Jun 28 12:59:07 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:59:07 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New FM at Vista Ca. Message-ID: <20100628.130006.1009.200772@mailpop08.vgs.untd.com> Yes Ron, the plan is to put a roof over it, the Clark and the 200 hp side shaft Western. They have done a lot of work on closing up all the openings to keep the critters out. The aim is to have it running for the June show in 2011. The small compound steam engine is already partially apart to clean it up and get running. The guys on steam engine row really have their act together. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:34:03 -0700 Ron Gerlach writes: > > Ron > > Boy that FM is a beast. It will be fun seeing it run some day. I > presume they are going to build a new cover for it and the Clark > Brothers engine that will be in front of it. > > RonG ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c28ff6aefc0218880st05vuc From mathjr at optusnet.com.au Mon Jun 28 15:01:02 2010 From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au (John Mathieson) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 08:01:02 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine References: <1aba4.18e458f5.3959ea58@aol.com> Message-ID: <904EDBA0385347E69F9D63BFB5EA87D8@lightning> I see a lot of engines around rallies with bent crankshafts & I recon a lot of these are caused by attaching lifting slings to the flywheels. A spreader bar could be used to get a vertical pull on flywheels to avoid this happening. John Mathieson ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Big Stover Engine > > In a message dated 6/27/2010 7:40:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > gasenginetom at hotmail.com writes: > > Here is a link to some pictures > > > Nice find Tom! Is the extra long crankshaft on the other side so that > you > can install the clutch mechanism on either side? Was that extra long > shaft a common practice? > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2967 - Release Date: 06/27/10 18:35:00 -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2967 - Release Date: 06/27/10 18:35:00 From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Mon Jun 28 16:48:55 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 09:48:55 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Tom, As George says look around the cylinder and head for the number. My DX & YB have the numbers here. Also look around the face and rims of the flywheels as I have seen numbers there on earlier Stovers. Patrick Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From George_Best at adp.com Tue Jun 29 15:19:15 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:19:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3DC3C21E@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Tom, You need to hurry up and find that serial number! I'm curious as to how close it is to mine. Also curious if your engine has enough original paint left on it to tell how it was painted. Mine was repainted several previous owners ago and I haven't scraped on mine yet to see if I can find any original paint under the later paint. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Livingstone Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 4:49 PM To: ATIS Subject: Re: [SEL] Big Stover Engine Hi Tom, As George says look around the cylinder and head for the number. My DX & YB have the numbers here. Also look around the face and rims of the flywheels as I have seen numbers there on earlier Stovers. Patrick Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From frappi at wcoil.com Wed Jun 30 14:16:51 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:16:51 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Maytag Twin Coils In-Reply-To: References: <58C53D7BAC244898A8F742F715EA8EDD@HomeDesktop2> Message-ID: <20100630211651.A6D5D936F@smtp.wcoil.com> Hi All, I was wondering if anyone has a report on the new coils being sold by Zach N out in Iowa. How are they working out? Mark Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From rotigel at me.com Wed Jun 30 14:42:21 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:42:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Maytag Twin Coils In-Reply-To: <20100630211651.A6D5D936F@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <58C53D7BAC244898A8F742F715EA8EDD@HomeDesktop2> <20100630211651.A6D5D936F@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <273E9565-6F7C-4816-91D6-72BB61DB1F94@me.com> Hi Mark, The TWINS fail to run no matter what coils they have (or do not have) in them! Dave On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Mark Shulaw wrote: > > Hi All, I was wondering if anyone has a report on the new coils being > sold by Zach N out in Iowa. How are they working out? Mark > > > > > > > Mark Shulaw > 454 County Road 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frappi at wcoil.com Wed Jun 30 17:23:48 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:23:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Maytag Twin Coils In-Reply-To: <273E9565-6F7C-4816-91D6-72BB61DB1F94@me.com> References: <58C53D7BAC244898A8F742F715EA8EDD@HomeDesktop2> <20100630211651.A6D5D936F@smtp.wcoil.com> <273E9565-6F7C-4816-91D6-72BB61DB1F94@me.com> Message-ID: <20100701002349.078639361@smtp.wcoil.com> That seems to be the case here lately. Mark At 05:42 PM 6/30/2010, you wrote: >Hi Mark, The TWINS fail to run no matter what coils they have (or do >not have) in them! > Dave > >On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Mark Shulaw wrote: > > > > > Hi All, I was wondering if anyone has a report on the new coils being > > sold by Zach N out in Iowa. How are they working out? Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Shulaw > > 454 County Road 33 > > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > > USA > > > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com Tue Jun 1 23:52:23 2010 From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 06:52:23 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Campbell Dating Message-ID: Good morning guys,some one from Australia sent me a list of Campbell engines to date and I mistakenly deleted the email.If you are on the list and see this please get back to. John _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/ We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Thu Jun 3 04:51:06 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 21:51:06 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Some more from the 1929 R-T Price List Message-ID: A rush of blood and I have scanned and put some more images up at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austcatrt_1929_4.html Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From steve_royster at hotmail.com Thu Jun 3 10:23:48 2010 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:23:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Lister Help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: HI All, I have a friend who is a veterinarian and is looking for a small Lister single cylinder diesel to pull a small mill. This mill has a subbase made for the engine which he believes was a 6-1 Lister. Someone stole the engine years ago but left the base and mill. He would like it to be as close to the original engine as possible. So, all you lister experts out there. We are looking to buy a replacement Lister to fit this mill and also any literature on it. He thinks also an 8-1 might fit? I appreciate any help. Thanks Steve Royster _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From plowe at exemail.com.au Fri Jun 4 00:59:47 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:59:47 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Ronnie Tippett bearing replacement size Message-ID: Hi all Someone emailed me about the metric bearings I fitted into my Ronnie Tippett N model. Please contact me again as I can't find your email !!! Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Jun 4 09:50:34 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:50:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? Message-ID: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Folks, I'm looking for a galvanized water trough maybe 3-4' long x 2' wide, perhaps 18" to 2' deep to use with my Bamford / Millars mud pump outfit. Searching the web wasn't very helpful. This seems like it should be a common type of farm item. Any suggestions on where I might find them for sale? Thanks!! See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com From b2 at chooka.net Fri Jun 4 10:08:49 2010 From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:08:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? In-Reply-To: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <000801cb0408$9994daf0$ccbe90d0$@net> Tractorsupply.com Livestock equipment Stock tanks Looks to me like just what you're looking for: 2x2x4 galvanized tank. Bill Brueck Pine Island, MN USA -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 11:51 AM To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? Folks, I'm looking for a galvanized water trough maybe 3-4' long x 2' wide, perhaps 18" to 2' deep to use with my Bamford / Millars mud pump outfit. Searching the web wasn't very helpful. This seems like it should be a common type of farm item. Any suggestions on where I might find them for sale? Thanks!! See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From oldironnut at windstream.net Fri Jun 4 10:30:41 2010 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 13:30:41 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? In-Reply-To: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <4C093841.9040700@windstream.net> Arnie, Is this what you're after? http://www.southernstates.com/catalog/p-2158-tarter-100gal-galvanized-oval-stock-tank.aspx Find a Southern States or Tractor Supply Center near you and they should have one for you. See ya', Mike On 6/4/10 12:50 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Folks, > > I'm looking for a galvanized water trough maybe 3-4' long x 2' wide, perhaps 18" to > 2' deep to use with my Bamford / Millars mud pump outfit. Searching the web wasn't > very helpful. > > This seems like it should be a common type of farm item. > > Any suggestions on where I might find them for sale? Thanks!! > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From bboyce at swat.coop Fri Jun 4 10:42:58 2010 From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:42:58 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? In-Reply-To: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <8BEA1533728E46A89C6B75FCD790AB33@billPC> common item around here, arnie,,,, yall have Tractor Supply Company stores there ? or check the local farmers supply coop,,,,even Lowes and Home Depot have em here,,, bill boyce lost prairie arkansas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Fero" To: ; Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 11:50 AM Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? > Folks, > > I'm looking for a galvanized water trough maybe 3-4' long x 2' wide, > perhaps 18" to > 2' deep to use with my Bamford / Millars mud pump outfit. Searching the > web wasn't > very helpful. > > This seems like it should be a common type of farm item. > > Any suggestions on where I might find them for sale? Thanks!! > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From obise at moscow.com Fri Jun 4 10:50:28 2010 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:50:28 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? In-Reply-To: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <01E9A0BF3EB448DCAA469AC6C6C94EC6@CathyComp> -----Original Message----- From: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org [mailto:stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:51 AM To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Galvanized Water Trough? Folks, I'm looking for a galvanized water trough maybe 3-4' long x 2' wide, perhaps 18" to 2' deep to use with my Bamford / Millars mud pump outfit. Searching the web wasn't very helpful. This seems like it should be a common type of farm item. Any suggestions on where I might find them for sale? Thanks!! See ya, Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com ******** Arnie, do you mean to say that your area is so urbanized that nobody keeps horses? Out here in God's Country every farm and ranch supply outfit keeps them in stock. Lacking galvanized troughs, perhaps you can find used whiskey aging barrels. The garden shops around here sell them for planters. Generally, they are cut in half; but, we can also buy them intact. Good luck! Orrin From don.h at wcoil.com Fri Jun 4 11:04:10 2010 From: don.h at wcoil.com (Don Heringhaus) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:04:10 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? In-Reply-To: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: I bet Lehman's country store in Amish land here in the great state of Ohio would have it I'm not napping, I'm just checking the inside of my eyelids." From steve_royster at hotmail.com Fri Jun 4 11:13:38 2010 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:13:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? In-Reply-To: <4C093841.9040700@windstream.net> References: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>, <4C093841.9040700@windstream.net> Message-ID: Around here we call them the "Poor Boys Hot Tub" , Steve > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 13:30:41 -0400 > From: oldironnut at windstream.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? > > Arnie, > > Is this what you're after? > http://www.southernstates.com/catalog/p-2158-tarter-100gal-galvanized-oval-stock-tank.aspx > > Find a Southern States or Tractor Supply Center near you and they should > have one for you. > > See ya', > Mike > > On 6/4/10 12:50 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > > Folks, > > > > I'm looking for a galvanized water trough maybe 3-4' long x 2' wide, perhaps 18" to > > 2' deep to use with my Bamford / Millars mud pump outfit. Searching the web wasn't > > very helpful. > > > > This seems like it should be a common type of farm item. > > > > Any suggestions on where I might find them for sale? Thanks!! > > > > See ya, Arnie > > > > Arnie Fero > > Pittsburgh, PA > > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From marinesurveys at msn.com Fri Jun 4 11:41:58 2010 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:41:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? In-Reply-To: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Arnie; What about an old claw footed bath tub ;-} Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:50:34 -0400 > From: fero_ah at city-net.com > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? > > Folks, > > I'm looking for a galvanized water trough maybe 3-4' long x 2' wide, perhaps 18" to > 2' deep to use with my Bamford / Millars mud pump outfit. Searching the web wasn't > very helpful. > > This seems like it should be a common type of farm item. > > Any suggestions on where I might find them for sale? Thanks!! > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Fri Jun 4 15:17:51 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 08:17:51 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? References: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <142A3BB70C534B08BDEEA713273655C7@peterlowe> Every man and his dog has one here in Oz Arnie ;-))) Common as dirt. Pete > Folks, > > I'm looking for a galvanized water trough maybe 3-4' long x 2' wide, > perhaps 18" to > 2' deep to use with my Bamford / Millars mud pump outfit. Searching the > web wasn't > very helpful. > > This seems like it should be a common type of farm item. > > Any suggestions on where I might find them for sale? Thanks!! > > See ya, Arnie > > Arnie Fero > Pittsburgh, PA > fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Jun 4 16:59:29 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:59:29 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? In-Reply-To: <142A3BB70C534B08BDEEA713273655C7@peterlowe> References: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <142A3BB70C534B08BDEEA713273655C7@peterlowe> Message-ID: <5ECF174B-12B8-42E8-862C-8FA87B0E1CE6@rustyiron.com> Arnie Fero wrote: >> my Bamford / Millars mud pump outfit. Peter Lowe wrote: > Every man and his dog has one here in Oz Arnie ;-))) Common as dirt. That's not very nice, Pete. From rotigel at me.com Fri Jun 4 18:09:25 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 21:09:25 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Galvanized Water Trough? In-Reply-To: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <97bee7c543964105d0ee2f7d4bfbf477.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: We should probably look in my barn! Dave On Jun 4, 2010, at 12:50 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Folks, > > I'm looking for a galvanized water trough maybe 3-4' long x 2' wide, > perhaps 18" to > 2' deep to use with my Bamford / Millars mud pump outfit. Searching > the web wasn't > very helpful. > > This seems like it should be a common type of farm item. > > Any suggestions on where I might find them for sale? Thanks!! > > See ya, Arnie From kkinney at herculesengines.com Sat Jun 5 21:38:03 2010 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 23:38:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] SIAM show In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I was wondering who will be attending the SIAM show next weekend? I will be roping off and area for us and just wondering how large an area to reserve. We also have reservations at the Log Inn for Friday evening for our usual dinner for those wanting to attend. Fill free to e-mail me off list if you like. Looking forward to seeing everyone. Keith Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Jun 6 06:41:34 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 08:41:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] SIAM show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Keith: Although I probably won't be attending the SIAM show again, I'd like to recommend it to anyone as a good show to make. Have fun and say hi from me to anyone who gives a hoot. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Keith > Kinney > Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 11:38 PM > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; The SEL > email discussion list > Subject: [SEL] SIAM show > > > I was wondering who will be attending the SIAM > show next weekend? I will be roping off and area > for us and just wondering how large an area to > reserve. We also have reservations at the Log > Inn for Friday evening for our usual dinner for > those wanting to attend. Fill free to e-mail me > off list if you like. > Looking forward to seeing everyone. > Keith > > Keith Kinney > kkinney at herculesengines.com > WWW.HerculesEngines.com From rotigel at me.com Mon Jun 7 06:18:55 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:18:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up Message-ID: <7AD8E616-18FF-4E0A-B95C-2C12A2810F89@me.com> Hi All, As all of you, I am sure, know the Coolspring show is June 17, 18, and 19 this year. I've spoken with Jake and the SEL will again have our space in the second row at the far end near the trees. Please try to fill in our space from the trees back toward the entrance in order that we can "give back" what we are not using by Friday afternoon. They are expecting a BIG crowd! I have two mates from OZ coming in to help me mark off the SEL area on Tuesday (June 15) so if some of the SEL Reserved signs are upside down, please understand. Hope to see a lot of you at Coolspring! Dave From jlb94 at juno.com Mon Jun 7 07:45:38 2010 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 14:45:38 GMT Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up Message-ID: <20100607.104538.7487.2@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> Hi Dave, If things go right, I plan on being at Coolspring this year. Probably arrive Thursday evening. Try to save me a spot. Thanks Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ (_o_) " When one teaches, two learn. " ---------- Original Message ---------- From: David Rotigel To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:18:55 -0400 Hi All, As all of you, I am sure, know the Coolspring show is June 17, 18, and 19 this year. I've spoken with Jake and the SEL will again have our space in the second row at the far end near the trees. Please try to fill in our space from the trees back toward the entrance in order that we can "give back" what we are not using by Friday afternoon. They are expecting a BIG crowd! I have two mates from OZ coming in to help me mark off the SEL area on Tuesday (June 15) so if some of the SEL Reserved signs are upside down, please understand. Hope to see a lot of you at Coolspring! Dave _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 From jbcast at charter.net Mon Jun 7 08:48:06 2010 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 8:48:06 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up In-Reply-To: <7AD8E616-18FF-4E0A-B95C-2C12A2810F89@me.com> Message-ID: <20100607114807.WUP6I.7309060.root@mp12> Dave, I'm planning to be there Thurs & Friday, If I go in the truck I'm going to bring two engines. Is there a forklift available or can you display from the truck? J.B. Castagnos From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Mon Jun 7 11:20:45 2010 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:20:45 -0000 Subject: [SEL] FM Y engine manual?? Message-ID: <703F8246E3454C8EB01955A58D97A892@Desktop> Does anybody know of a source for a Fairbanks Morse Y engine manual. This is the horizontal engine, probably 12 - 15 HP. I have looked everywhere on the net and drawn a blank. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes jd.kirkes at verizon.net From jdohagan at comcast.net Mon Jun 7 14:21:06 2010 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 14:21:06 -0700 Subject: [SEL] FM Y engine manual?? In-Reply-To: <703F8246E3454C8EB01955A58D97A892@Desktop> References: <703F8246E3454C8EB01955A58D97A892@Desktop> Message-ID: Hi Jim, copies of the manuals for FM."Y"s show up periodically on "E Bay". Cya, Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim Kirkes Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 11:20 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; OFES; Oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] FM Y engine manual?? Does anybody know of a source for a Fairbanks Morse Y engine manual. This is the horizontal engine, probably 12 - 15 HP. I have looked everywhere on the net and drawn a blank. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes jd.kirkes at verizon.net _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Jun 7 14:50:24 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:50:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up References: <7AD8E616-18FF-4E0A-B95C-2C12A2810F89@me.com> Message-ID: <001701cb068b$6f748880$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Steve and I will see you there!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:18 AM Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up > Hi All, > As all of you, I am sure, know the Coolspring show is June 17, 18, > and 19 this year. I've spoken with Jake and the SEL will again have > our space in the second row at the far end near the trees. Please try > to fill in our space from the trees back toward the entrance in order > that we can "give back" what we are not using by Friday afternoon. > They are expecting a BIG crowd! I have two mates from OZ coming in to > help me mark off the SEL area on Tuesday (June 15) so if some of the > SEL Reserved signs are upside down, please understand. Hope to see a > lot of you at Coolspring! > Dave > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Mon Jun 7 16:17:20 2010 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:17:20 -0000 Subject: [SEL] FM Y engine manual?? References: <703F8246E3454C8EB01955A58D97A892@Desktop> Message-ID: Thanks Jim, I will keep an eye out for one. Jim and Diane Kirkes jd.kirkes at verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim O'Hagan" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] FM Y engine manual?? Hi Jim, copies of the manuals for FM."Y"s show up periodically on "E Bay". Cya, Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim Kirkes Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 11:20 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; OFES; Oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] FM Y engine manual?? Does anybody know of a source for a Fairbanks Morse Y engine manual. This is the horizontal engine, probably 12 - 15 HP. I have looked everywhere on the net and drawn a blank. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes jd.kirkes at verizon.net _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Mon Jun 7 17:12:56 2010 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:12:56 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Replacing a belt pulley hub Message-ID: G'day all; The shingle mill projects has run over a year now and can see the light at the end of the tunnel. We did by chance happen to come upon an original(?) belt pulley w/inertia wheel...the hub is cracked ~ 75% along the keyway and right through the middle of the setscrews. Has anyone every milled off the bad section of hub and bolted on a new machined one? Never heard of it before but willing to take a stab at it. Thanks for reading, RickinMt. From jdohagan at comcast.net Mon Jun 7 17:16:44 2010 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:16:44 -0700 Subject: [SEL] FM Y engine manual?? In-Reply-To: References: <703F8246E3454C8EB01955A58D97A892@Desktop> Message-ID: <7EB3A1ED2CF84A40B99B04AD03FF4418@VALUED3253602F> Jim, 360243083168, Cya, Jimmy Ps, Going to the National? -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim Kirkes Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 4:17 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] FM Y engine manual?? Thanks Jim, I will keep an eye out for one. Jim and Diane Kirkes jd.kirkes at verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim O'Hagan" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] FM Y engine manual?? Hi Jim, copies of the manuals for FM."Y"s show up periodically on "E Bay". Cya, Jimmy O'Hagan, Novato, Ca. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim Kirkes Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 11:20 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; OFES; Oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] FM Y engine manual?? Does anybody know of a source for a Fairbanks Morse Y engine manual. This is the horizontal engine, probably 12 - 15 HP. I have looked everywhere on the net and drawn a blank. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes jd.kirkes at verizon.net _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jdohagan at comcast.net Mon Jun 7 22:53:17 2010 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:53:17 -0700 Subject: [SEL] F,M. manual type "Y" Message-ID: <646B4B4EBB17422CB04860CA8346789C@VALUED3253602F> Jim, 360243083168 will work. Cya, Jimmy From nancydick at pennswoods.net Tue Jun 8 03:45:31 2010 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 06:45:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up In-Reply-To: <20100607.104538.7487.2@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100607.104538.7487.2@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <4c0e1f54.483fe70a.2386.ffffd9f9@mx.google.com> Hi Joe just wanted to say thanks again for setting me up with my first hit and miss engine. Although i done every thing wrong after i got it i learned a lot by my mistakes and people off this SEL. R Fink PA At 02:45 PM 6/7/2010 +0000, you wrote: >Hi Dave, >If things go right, I plan on being at Coolspring this year. >Probably arrive Thursday evening. >Try to save me a spot. >Thanks >Joe "Pip" Betz said that. >jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz >,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz >\/)"(\/ >(_o_) " When one teaches, two learn. " > > > >---------- Original Message ---------- >From: David Rotigel >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up >Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:18:55 -0400 > >Hi All, >As all of you, I am sure, know the Coolspring show is June 17, 18, >and 19 this year. I've spoken with Jake and the SEL will again have >our space in the second row at the far end near the trees. Please try >to fill in our space from the trees back toward the entrance in order >that we can "give back" what we are not using by Friday afternoon. >They are expecting a BIG crowd! I have two mates from OZ coming in to >help me mark off the SEL area on Tuesday (June 15) so if some of the >SEL Reserved signs are upside down, please understand. Hope to see a >lot of you at Coolspring! >Dave >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >____________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! >http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Tue Jun 8 05:10:41 2010 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 08:10:41 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up References: <7AD8E616-18FF-4E0A-B95C-2C12A2810F89@me.com> Message-ID: <12aa01cb0703$9d515300$6401a8c0@PC179134136174> I plan on coming on Thursday, and will bring some of the volunteers who are working with me on the Westinghouse engine project. I think it will be great for some of the original Wrecking Crew to meet the "new" Wrecking Crew! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:18 AM Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up > Hi All, > As all of you, I am sure, know the Coolspring show is June 17, 18, > and 19 this year. I've spoken with Jake and the SEL will again have > our space in the second row at the far end near the trees. Please try > to fill in our space from the trees back toward the entrance in order > that we can "give back" what we are not using by Friday afternoon. > They are expecting a BIG crowd! I have two mates from OZ coming in to > help me mark off the SEL area on Tuesday (June 15) so if some of the > SEL Reserved signs are upside down, please understand. Hope to see a > lot of you at Coolspring! > Dave > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Jun 8 16:26:54 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 09:26:54 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie Message-ID: <4634FD8E80994D46A5E6D8FF6B5E7C50@peterlowe> My Skype pop-up tells me that it is Arnie's Birthday, and he has turned 41 is that correct.??? computers do not lie do they ;-))) If so: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MATE Pete, Oz From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Tue Jun 8 16:54:09 2010 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie Message-ID: <10421.46af9626.39403221@aol.com> Arnie Oh your getting old. Happy B Day KK over the pond In a message dated 6/8/2010 7:29:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, plowe at exemail.com.au writes: My Skype pop-up tells me that it is Arnie's Birthday, and he has turned 41 is that correct.??? computers do not lie do they ;-))) If so: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MATE Pete, Oz From rotigel at me.com Tue Jun 8 17:43:29 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:43:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie In-Reply-To: <10421.46af9626.39403221@aol.com> References: <10421.46af9626.39403221@aol.com> Message-ID: Arnie told me only last week that it now takes him all night to do what he used to do all night! Dave On Jun 8, 2010, at 7:54 PM, BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote: > Arnie Oh your getting old. > Happy B Day > KK over the pond > > > In a message dated 6/8/2010 7:29:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > plowe at exemail.com.au writes: > > My Skype pop-up tells me that it is Arnie's Birthday, and he has > turned 41 > is that correct.??? computers do not lie do they ;-))) > > If so: > > HAPPY BIRTHDAY MATE > > > Pete, Oz From rob at rustyiron.com Tue Jun 8 17:51:48 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:51:48 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie In-Reply-To: <4634FD8E80994D46A5E6D8FF6B5E7C50@peterlowe> References: <4634FD8E80994D46A5E6D8FF6B5E7C50@peterlowe> Message-ID: On Jun 8, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Peter Lowe wrote: > My Skype pop-up tells me that it is Arnie's Birthday, Bloody Windows users... From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Jun 8 19:00:09 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 21:00:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie In-Reply-To: <10421.46af9626.39403221@aol.com> Message-ID: Arnie: At 41, you're still a kid to us grownups. Just ask Dave. :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 06:54 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Tue Jun 8 18:08:57 2010 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:08:57 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie In-Reply-To: <4634FD8E80994D46A5E6D8FF6B5E7C50@peterlowe> References: <4634FD8E80994D46A5E6D8FF6B5E7C50@peterlowe> Message-ID: <4AF4D96D4DF646679551CF8A2002DC94@KerryPC> 41 yeh, the stray nuke thingies have had a major effect. Fell for that one last year, the old mate put in any date as you have to be safe on Facebook and Skype there are some strange sex predators out there that only wants his body Kerry From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Tue Jun 8 18:16:10 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 11:16:10 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Manilla Rally Message-ID: Due to work commitments (working late Friday night and 7am start on Monday) I cannot make it to Manilla this year. It is dissapointing as it is one of the great little rallies. Hopefully we will make it next year and hopefully bring our new little engine collector ;) Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From frappi at wcoil.com Tue Jun 8 20:00:07 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 23:00:07 -0400 Subject: [SEL] FREE Decals Message-ID: <20100609030004.18750938C@smtp.wcoil.com> Hi All, Check out ebay Item number: 110537682660 He claims if you call he will give you a set of free decals!! Below is a copy of the text from the listing. Mark * These decals look just as nice and BETTER than the water decals! (Don't believe me? Call me and I will send you a FREE SAMPLE!!!) Questions? Call 712-490-5596. Thanks, Zach From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Jun 8 21:00:36 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:00:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie In-Reply-To: <4634FD8E80994D46A5E6D8FF6B5E7C50@peterlowe> References: <4634FD8E80994D46A5E6D8FF6B5E7C50@peterlowe> Message-ID: <6f51d1daa5e731b4b5cf8c710ac0b46b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> G'day Mate!! For info, I have T-shirts that are older than 41!! 8-)) PS - You must be running Skype on a Mac. 8-)) On Tue, June 8, 2010 7:26 pm, Peter Lowe wrote: > My Skype pop-up tells me that it is Arnie's Birthday, and he has turned 41 is that > correct.??? computers do not lie do they ;-))) > > If so: > > HAPPY BIRTHDAY MATE From camaned at iinet.net.au Wed Jun 9 01:13:07 2010 From: camaned at iinet.net.au (Cam Grundy) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 18:13:07 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie In-Reply-To: <4AF4D96D4DF646679551CF8A2002DC94@KerryPC> References: <4634FD8E80994D46A5E6D8FF6B5E7C50@peterlowe> <4AF4D96D4DF646679551CF8A2002DC94@KerryPC> Message-ID: <81B5D37CA0BB4821BA333CB04A86E860@CamPC> See ya next year Patrick. Cam. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" To: ; "ATIS" Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie > 41 yeh, the stray nuke thingies have had a major effect. > Fell for that one last year, the old mate put in any date as you have to > be safe on Facebook and Skype there are some strange sex > predators out there that only wants his body > > Kerry > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Jun 9 03:37:26 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 06:37:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Happy Birthday Arnie References: <4634FD8E80994D46A5E6D8FF6B5E7C50@peterlowe> <4AF4D96D4DF646679551CF8A2002DC94@KerryPC> Message-ID: <004b01cb07bf$c1255b70$0201a8c0@mikecomp> and in honor of Arnie's birthday.......... http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=7lSliucgygc From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jun 9 04:51:52 2010 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:51:52 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up In-Reply-To: <7AD8E616-18FF-4E0A-B95C-2C12A2810F89@me.com> References: <7AD8E616-18FF-4E0A-B95C-2C12A2810F89@me.com> Message-ID: <20100609115127.3164C3040F9@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> The real reason the old man has a couple of Ozzies helping is to hold the reserve signs steady so he can thread the wire through then to hang em on the rope. Tell the truth .... Russ At 11:18 PM 7/06/2010, you wrote: >Hi All, > As all of you, I am sure, know the Coolspring show is June 17, 18, >and 19 this year. I've spoken with Jake and the SEL will again have >our space in the second row at the far end near the trees. Please try >to fill in our space from the trees back toward the entrance in order >that we can "give back" what we are not using by Friday afternoon. >They are expecting a BIG crowd! I have two mates from OZ coming in to >help me mark off the SEL area on Tuesday (June 15) so if some of the >SEL Reserved signs are upside down, please understand. Hope to see a >lot of you at Coolspring! > Dave >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jun 9 04:51:52 2010 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:51:52 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up In-Reply-To: <7AD8E616-18FF-4E0A-B95C-2C12A2810F89@me.com> References: <7AD8E616-18FF-4E0A-B95C-2C12A2810F89@me.com> Message-ID: <20100609121015.E486831811D@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> The real reason the old man has a couple of Ozzies helping is to hold the reserve signs steady so he can thread the wire through then to hang em on the rope. Tell the truth .... Russ At 11:18 PM 7/06/2010, you wrote: >Hi All, > As all of you, I am sure, know the Coolspring show is June 17, 18, >and 19 this year. I've spoken with Jake and the SEL will again have >our space in the second row at the far end near the trees. Please try >to fill in our space from the trees back toward the entrance in order >that we can "give back" what we are not using by Friday afternoon. >They are expecting a BIG crowd! I have two mates from OZ coming in to >help me mark off the SEL area on Tuesday (June 15) so if some of the >SEL Reserved signs are upside down, please understand. Hope to see a >lot of you at Coolspring! > Dave >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Wed Jun 9 05:29:06 2010 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:29:06 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up References: <7AD8E616-18FF-4E0A-B95C-2C12A2810F89@me.com> Message-ID: <4CD81157455D4D75BE073DFDAD7742A3@morpheus> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 2:18 PM Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up > Hi All, > As all of you, I am sure, know the Coolspring show is June 17, 18, > and 19 this year. I've spoken with Jake and the SEL will again have > our space in the second row at the far end near the trees. Please try > to fill in our space from the trees back toward the entrance in order > that we can "give back" what we are not using by Friday afternoon. > They are expecting a BIG crowd! I have two mates from OZ coming in to > help me mark off the SEL area on Tuesday (June 15) so if some of the > SEL Reserved signs are upside down, please understand. Hope to see a > lot of you at Coolspring! > Dave Hi Dave, If your Aussie friends have sign problems feel free to use the one I did 4 years ago! see http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ullerman/Misc#5480748438231946690 Dave Croft Warrington. http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jun 9 15:48:11 2010 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 08:48:11 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up In-Reply-To: <4CD81157455D4D75BE073DFDAD7742A3@morpheus> References: <7AD8E616-18FF-4E0A-B95C-2C12A2810F89@me.com> <4CD81157455D4D75BE073DFDAD7742A3@morpheus> Message-ID: <20100609224745.37B983040D9@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> Hey Crofty, looks more like a long drop than a toilet! At 10:29 PM 9/06/2010, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Rotigel" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 2:18 PM >Subject: [SEL] Coolspring Set-up > > > > Hi All, > > As all of you, I am sure, know the Coolspring show is June 17, 18, > > and 19 this year. I've spoken with Jake and the SEL will again have > > our space in the second row at the far end near the trees. Please try > > to fill in our space from the trees back toward the entrance in order > > that we can "give back" what we are not using by Friday afternoon. > > They are expecting a BIG crowd! I have two mates from OZ coming in to > > help me mark off the SEL area on Tuesday (June 15) so if some of the > > SEL Reserved signs are upside down, please understand. Hope to see a > > lot of you at Coolspring! > > Dave > >Hi Dave, If your Aussie friends have sign problems feel free to use the >one I did 4 years ago! see >http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ullerman/Misc#5480748438231946690 >Dave Croft >Warrington. >http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ >http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rwenig2 at xplornet.com Wed Jun 9 19:30:27 2010 From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:30:27 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: OT help Message-ID: <4C104E43.9050605@xplornet.com> Hi guys, This showed up in my inbox but I didn't see it come through on SEL. Reg needs some help. I've had similar troubles from the ISP's he mentions. Can anyone who used the mentioned ISP's forward this to respective ISP administrator. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: OT help Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:15:58 +1000 From: Reg Ingold Reply-To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org To: I am unable to send mail to comcast .net, ameritech.net.sbcglobal.net and a few others. Most have this or similar. 5.4.7 - Delivery expired (message too old) [Default] 451-'4.7.7 Excessive userid unknowns from 210.50.76.235' My server seems unable to sort it. Any clues from the gurus out there? It is bad as I cannot contact friends on those suppliers.. Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2927 - Release Date: 06/09/10 00:35:00 -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2927 - Release Date: 06/09/10 00:35:00 From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Thu Jun 10 03:25:11 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:25:11 +1000 Subject: [SEL] R&V CR paint Message-ID: Carefully stripping the red oxide paint of the hopper and the yellow off the head I found some numbers on the hopper. These appear to be under the original green paint. One lot are hand painted but the others are stencilled. There are also some hand painted numbers on the offside flywheels. Any ideas? My guess is that they are assembly or order numbers. http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/rvcr/4003t.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/rvcr/4004t.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/rvcr/4005t.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/myengines/rvcr/4001t.jpg Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From rotigel at me.com Sun Jun 13 16:48:42 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:48:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SIAM SHOW Message-ID: Hi All, I just returned from the SIAM Show. Those of you who missed it missed a GOOD one. Good food, good beer and most of all GOOD friends! pictures can be seen at: http://web.mac.com/rotigel/iWeb/Site/Library%202.html Dave PS, Thanks to everyone involved in the show! From rotigel at me.com Sun Jun 13 17:00:48 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:00:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SIAM SHOW 2010 Message-ID: <02236F04-F6EC-4833-AC01-BB2A63FD5D36@me.com> Hi All, I just returned from the SIAM Show. Those of you who missed it missed a GOOD one. Good food, good beer and most of all GOOD friends! pictures can be seen at:http://web.mac.com/rotigel/iWeb/Site/Library%202.html Dave PS, Thanks to everyone involved in the show! From gastzt at aol.com Sun Jun 13 17:52:40 2010 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:52:40 EDT Subject: [SEL] SIAM SHOW Message-ID: <3e156.2756f1e0.3946d758@aol.com> In a message dated 6/13/2010 6:59:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rotigel at me.com writes: http://web.mac.com/rotigel/iWeb/Site/Library%202.html WOW! GREAT pictures----and thanks! Stan Zettner old stovers!!! Pleasanton, Tex From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Sun Jun 13 18:54:59 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:54:59 +1000 Subject: [SEL] SIAM SHOW References: Message-ID: Thanks for the great pictures of friends. Nice engines too! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" ; Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:48 AM Subject: [SEL] SIAM SHOW > Hi All, > I just returned from the SIAM Show. Those of you who missed it > missed a GOOD one. Good food, good beer and most of all GOOD friends! > pictures can be seen at: > http://web.mac.com/rotigel/iWeb/Site/Library%202.html > Dave > PS, Thanks to everyone involved in the show! > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Jun 14 01:59:14 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:59:14 +0100 Subject: [SEL] New Reproduction Engine Trolley and Trolley Parts at Nuenen Message-ID: This might be of interest, there are new repro trolley parts that we saw at Nuenen, picture here: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Nuenen2010/Nuenen2010045.htm or here: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Nuenen2010/Nuenen2010045.htm I found the card with the prices this morning: Large wheel 520mm as cast Euro 80.00 each Large wheel 520mm machined Euro 95.00 each Medium wheel 370mm as cast Euro 50.00 each Medium wheel 370mm machined Euro 65.00 each Small wheel 210mm as cast Euro 20.00 Small wheel 210mm machined Euro 25.00 Frame castings, four wheels etc., no axles or frame channels Euro 420.00 Frame castings, four wheels etc., no axles or frame channels, machined Euro 580.00 Complete trolley, unpainted with side channels, axles and timber drawbar, Euro 980.00. All are ex-works prices. Contact email: vafe63 at gmail.com Carriage would be an issue, but if a few buyers clubbed together for a single shipment, it would ease the pain. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From plowe at exemail.com.au Mon Jun 14 02:39:25 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:39:25 +1000 Subject: [SEL] I am still alive ;-))) Message-ID: <0BF2FEC7D585490580F1FC430D8F64CF@peterlowe> Hi all Just a quick note to say I am still alive and well, there have been quite a few OFF LIST post to me asking whether I had given up the hobby. We moved house from 3 1/2 acres to town, our choice and less work for us as we get older. Kaye's dream is to open a B&B as the house we bought is a heritage house well over 100 years old. (Yes Helen, we know your house is older ;-))) I am hoping to setup our private museum over the next twelve months. We have taken over my parents private Museum in Newcastle also. My new workshop is progressing slowly, my Mill and Lathe should be running this week and I will get back into my R&V Vertical very soon. Another reason for me being a little quieter, my Mum is now in a nursing home and that is hard to take, I have been back and forward to Newcastle every second weekend or so (5 1/2 hour drive) to keep an eye on my Dad and help him pack up a life time of collecting and moving into a two bedroom unit. I also have been very busy on my R&V book and getting things ready for the R&V Expo at Mount Pleasant, Iowa in September. I will have two days at Portland which I am very much looking forward to and coming to the dinner at the Back Forty as well. Portland holds a special memory from 1999 and I very much want to meet all you guys again. I must admit though, the passion for old iron has waned a little, I have taken some of my Dad's Edison Phonographs and Gramophones and also his valve (tube) radios. I have tinkered with these over the years and my electrical/electronics back ground is helpful on the radios. I am enjoying this hobby as well. My Dad had hundreds or radios and many Edison Phonographs and Gramophones, most of which he has now sold or I have taken over. So I am still here and read all the posts and usually comment OFF LIST where it is needed. I also spend equal time on "The Talking Machine" and "Edison Phonograph" forums as well. Take care guys. Peter Lowe, Oz From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Jun 14 06:39:47 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:39:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] I am still alive ;-))) In-Reply-To: <0BF2FEC7D585490580F1FC430D8F64CF@peterlowe> Message-ID: Peter: Sorry to hear about your Mom and living situation. Keep on keeping-on. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Peter Lowe Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:39 AM To: Oldengine.org; ATIS Subject: [SEL] I am still alive ;-))) From flywheelin at hotmail.com Mon Jun 14 10:15:07 2010 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:15:07 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification Message-ID: I have several parts listed here and would like to indentify them. Can you help?? Looks like a fuel pump, what engine would it go on? http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-668F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG Looks like an IHC fuel pump, what engine would it go on? http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-676F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-677F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-674F.JPG What engine would this coil go to or on? http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-652F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-653F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-655F.JPG What in the world is this thing for? http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-660F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-661F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-662F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-664F.JPG Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Jun 14 11:02:08 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:02:08 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Luke: The last "Thing" is a part of a wind-up victrola or Edison phonograph motor. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Luke Tonneberger Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 1:15 PM To: Engine List Cc: stationary-engine at oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification ........................snip......................... What in the world is this thing for? http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-660F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-661F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-662F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-664F.JPG From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon Jun 14 11:23:00 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Luke, Not sure but could this possibly be off of a Mogul? Some of the IH guys will know for sure. Looks like a fuel pump, what engine would it go on? http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-668F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG You might have to give some additional dimensions although the IH guys can look it up on the parts listing and tell you. Its for an engine, could be the 4, 6, 8, 10 etc horizontals or if it?s a small pump for the 2 ? Famous. http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-676F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-677F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-674F.JPG Not sure on this could and could be a host of possibilities. http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-652F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-653F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-655F.JPG Elden called this a Victrola ?motor?. He?s close. It?s a Victrola governor. It works just like the governor on an engine and controls the speed on how fast the table rotates. I took one of those out of an old Victrola when I was about 12 and still have it. http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-660F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-661F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-662F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-664F.JPG Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Jun 14 12:12:24 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:12:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100614191217.5DE57939D@smtp.wcoil.com> Dittos to what Elden says on the last item. Definitely appears to be a record or roll player wind up piece. The coil is for an XH Wico Magneto. Thats an old number. Mark At 02:02 PM 6/14/2010, you wrote: >Luke: > >The last "Thing" is a part of a wind-up victrola or Edison phonograph motor. > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Luke >Tonneberger >Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 1:15 PM >To: Engine List >Cc: stationary-engine at oldengine.org >Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification > >........................snip......................... > >What in the world is this thing for? > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-660F.JPG >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-661F.JPG >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-662F.JPG >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-664F.JPG > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Jun 14 12:16:47 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:16:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification Message-ID: <20100614191640.552B79378@smtp.wcoil.com> The XH magneto and its variants went on many applications. The spec number on the mag tells the story on a particular mag. I think Gravelys were one that used a XH. Mark Dittos to what Elden says on the last item. Definitely appears to be a record or roll player wind up piece. The coil is for an XH Wico Magneto. Thats an old number. Mark At 02:02 PM 6/14/2010, you wrote: >Luke: > >The last "Thing" is a part of a wind-up victrola or Edison phonograph motor. > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Luke >Tonneberger >Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 1:15 PM >To: Engine List >Cc: stationary-engine at oldengine.org >Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification > >........................snip......................... > >What in the world is this thing for? > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-660F.JPG >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-661F.JPG >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-662F.JPG >http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-664F.JPG > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Jun 14 12:33:43 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:33:43 +0200 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100614211306.02924520@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi All, The lists are a bit quiet so I do not feel too bad about another "Off Topic" post. A few months back a friend flew over my home and took this pic. To get back "On Topic" - if you look carefully you will notice 2 engines but they are under grey tarps (unlike the Roysters "blue" tarps). Then, if you look very carefully just to the bottom of my house, on a concrete slab next to a tree is a "pink" dot - well that's the Witte CD under a "Red tarp". Yes, that really is me standing in the centre of the pic with a camera - right there next to the cat :-) Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Jun 14 12:47:48 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:47:48 +0200 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100614214627.028a52c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Well, that was rather stupid was it not !! I forgot the link - here it is: Keep well jerry Hi All, The lists are a bit quiet so I do not feel too bad about another "Off Topic" post. A few months back a friend flew over my home and took this pic. To get back "On Topic" - if you look carefully you will notice 2 engines but they are under grey tarps (unlike the Roysters "blue" tarps). Then, if you look very carefully just to the bottom of my house, on a concrete slab next to a tree is a "pink" dot - well that's the Witte CD under a "Red tarp". Yes, that really is me standing in the centre of the pic with a camera - right there next to the cat :-) Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From rotigel at me.com Mon Jun 14 13:09:20 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:09:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100614214627.028a52c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100614214627.028a52c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <1B4FAAFE-5341-45C6-A031-EB3D678823EA@me.com> VERY NICE homestead Jerry! Dave PS, Are those two black guys under the trees down by the river your gardeners? On Jun 14, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Jerry Evans wrote: > Well, that was rather stupid was it not !! I forgot the link - here > it is: > > Keep well > jerry > > > Hi All, > The lists are a bit quiet so I do not feel too bad about > another > "Off Topic" post. > > A few months back a friend flew over my home and took this > pic. > > To get back "On Topic" - if you look carefully you will > notice 2 > engines but they are under grey tarps (unlike the Roysters "blue" > tarps). > Then, if you look very carefully just to the bottom of my house, on a > concrete slab next to a tree is a "pink" dot - well that's the Witte > CD > under a "Red tarp". > > Yes, that really is me standing in the centre of the pic > with a > camera - right there next to the cat :-) > > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Mon Jun 14 13:21:36 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:21:36 EDT Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. Message-ID: <4ecd6.6de8c84b.3947e950@aol.com> Nice photos of a nice place! What type business is across the road? Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From rotigel at me.com Mon Jun 14 15:03:58 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:03:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. In-Reply-To: <4ecd6.6de8c84b.3947e950@aol.com> References: <4ecd6.6de8c84b.3947e950@aol.com> Message-ID: <13F1C0F6-92C5-49DD-8E68-CFDB7F5BA22B@me.com> Hi Tom, Jerry owns that business as well. I've been told that it's a motel--that charges by the hour! It's a secret, so don't tell anyone, that's why I've sent this to you off LIST! Dave On Jun 14, 2010, at 4:21 PM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > Nice photos of a nice place! What type business is across the road? > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Jun 14 15:12:01 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:12:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100614214627.028a52c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: I especially like the bunker next to the engines. You know, the one with the .50 on the parapet. :-) Hmmm ...... Do I see shell craters in the street across from your entrance gate? Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:48 PM Hi All, The lists are a bit quiet so I do not feel too bad about another "Off Topic" post. From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Jun 14 16:52:29 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:52:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100614214627.028a52c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <00a401cb0c1c$a686a290$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Jerry, You must be related to us after all, I have both blue and gray tarps! Nice place you have there "cuzin." Mike (the fewer tarps than last year) Royster ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Evans" To: ; Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:47 PM Subject: O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > Well, that was rather stupid was it not !! I forgot the link - here it is: > > Keep well > jerry > > > Hi All, > The lists are a bit quiet so I do not feel too bad about another > "Off Topic" post. > > A few months back a friend flew over my home and took this pic. > > To get back "On Topic" - if you look carefully you will notice 2 > engines but they are under grey tarps (unlike the Roysters "blue" tarps). > Then, if you look very carefully just to the bottom of my house, on a > concrete slab next to a tree is a "pink" dot - well that's the Witte CD > under a "Red tarp". > > Yes, that really is me standing in the centre of the pic with a > camera - right there next to the cat :-) > > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > To UN-subscribe, send a message to: > > stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org > with: > unsubscribe > in the subject of the message. Nothing else, no SIGs, etc. From falcon at telenet.net Mon Jun 14 18:35:16 2010 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:35:16 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100614211306.02924520@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100614211306.02924520@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <4C16D8D4.9060800@telenet.net> Jerry Evans wrote: > Hi All, > The lists are a bit quiet so I do not feel too bad about another > "Off Topic" post. > > A few months back a friend flew over my home and took this pic. > > To get back "On Topic" - if you look carefully you will notice 2 > engines but they are under grey tarps (unlike the Roysters "blue" tarps). > Then, if you look very carefully just to the bottom of my house, on a > concrete slab next to a tree is a "pink" dot - well that's the Witte CD > under a "Red tarp". > > Yes, that really is me standing in the centre of the pic with a > camera - right there next to the cat :-) > > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Nice place. How much area do you own? Who's the blonde sunbathing topless next to the river ???? -- Steve W. From Germoamer at aol.com Tue Jun 15 04:30:59 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 07:30:59 EDT Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. Message-ID: <44a6a.2c639c45.3948be73@aol.com> In a message dated 6/14/2010 6:09:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rotigel at me.com writes: that's why I've sent this to you off LIST! Dave, Thanks for letting me know that was off list. Being computer illiterate, I have a hard time distinguishing what is on and off list. Sorry to miss the SIAM show this year. Went to Alaska instead! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From George_Best at adp.com Tue Jun 15 10:49:35 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:49:35 -0500 Subject: [SEL] I'm back In-Reply-To: References: , , <65c2cf3793d56103299b58b38affd693.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D5E237C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> I unsubscribed for a couple of weeks while I was on vacation. Resubscribed today and haven't seen a single message posted so far. Is SEL just really quiet now or am I not subscribed? George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Jun 15 11:12:01 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:12:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] I'm back In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D5E237C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: George: Since I didn't get the message below and you didn't get my reply (here), I guess you are a member in good standing of the Rusty Cyberspace Gang. Shhh ........ Nobody say a thing! I think we've got 'ol George fooled, heh, heh. :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:50 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] I'm back I unsubscribed for a couple of weeks while I was on vacation. Resubscribed today and haven't seen a single message posted so far. Is SEL just really quiet now or am I not subscribed? George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Tue Jun 15 11:35:53 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:35:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] I'm back In-Reply-To: References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D5E237C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D5E2545@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Elden, Since I did receive my own posting to SEL, I knew it was working ;-) But must say it certainly is quiet today. Prior to vacation it was also getting to be pretty quiet on the list. Seems like list participation is declining and you have to go to Smokstak to see any postings. I know that show season slows us down some as people are on the road or at the show, but you'd think there would be some discussion about what they thought of the shows or what they saw. I would have liked to been able to go to a show this coming weekend, but having just returned from a couple weeks in Italy and having 9hrs of time difference to adjust to, plus catching up on all the things that didn't get done the past couple of weeks, I'll have to skip this show. The 24th I will head to California (800+ miles each way) to attend the EDGE&TA National Show. Should be a really good show and I'm looking forward to being there although the 800+ plus mile drive isn't something I'm looking forward to since I have to do it in a straight one day shot each way. Don't have enough extra vacation time to make it a two day drive each way :-( George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Elden Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:12 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] I'm back George: Since I didn't get the message below and you didn't get my reply (here), I guess you are a member in good standing of the Rusty Cyberspace Gang. Shhh ........ Nobody say a thing! I think we've got 'ol George fooled, heh, heh. :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:50 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] I'm back I unsubscribed for a couple of weeks while I was on vacation. Resubscribed today and haven't seen a single message posted so far. Is SEL just really quiet now or am I not subscribed? George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From langer5 at xplornet.ca Tue Jun 15 11:38:08 2010 From: langer5 at xplornet.ca (Larry Anger) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:38:08 -0400 Subject: [SEL] I'm back In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D5E237C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: , , <65c2cf3793d56103299b58b38affd693.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D5E237C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <835FED1FB05A4280BE1E301D05881017@larryf92159205> George - the list has been quite quiet lately. My son and I just got back from Europe a couple weeks ago. We had a good time. Went to the Nuenen show first then down into Germany, Luxembourg, Southern Holland, and Belgium. The last two nights we stayed in a hotel near the airport. On the Saturday we took the bus into Central Station and spent the entire day in Amsterdam and bought a ticket for the water bus so we could get on and off as we wanted in various areas of the city. It was my first time to Amsterdam and enjoyed the time there. We really got to do a lot of stuff in the 10 days we were in Europe. It was basically a EHOWT also because we had a car and tried to see as much as possible in the allowed time. We did get to Harry's place and ate Shwarma in the same little restaurant as last time. We got to Bert's place so my son could see his toys. We also went to visit Huub Van de Ven one night during the show. One thing I noticed George last week when I was in London, Ontario which is just 35 minutes from my house, that there are all kinds of little restaurants advertising that they have Shwarma. Until last year on the trip I had never heard of Shawarma before. In reality it is all around me. Larry. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:50 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] I'm back I unsubscribed for a couple of weeks while I was on vacation. Resubscribed today and haven't seen a single message posted so far. Is SEL just really quiet now or am I not subscribed? George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Tue Jun 15 11:46:37 2010 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:46:37 -0700 Subject: [SEL] I'm back References: , , <65c2cf3793d56103299b58b38affd693.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D5E237C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <7941E7D5DD0849199EE95AD2F3DF01E4@Desktop> You are subscribed fine, just quiet at the moment. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes jd.kirkes at verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Best, George" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: [SEL] I'm back I unsubscribed for a couple of weeks while I was on vacation. Resubscribed today and haven't seen a single message posted so far. Is SEL just really quiet now or am I not subscribed? George From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Jun 15 12:00:56 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:00:56 +0200 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615205635.00cd8900@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 15/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 8 >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:09:20 -0400 >From: David Rotigel >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. >To: The SEL email discussion list >Message-ID: <1B4FAAFE-5341-45C6-A031-EB3D678823EA at me.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > >VERY NICE homestead Jerry! > Dave >PS, Are those two black guys under the trees down by the river your >gardeners? Hi Dave, Thanks for your comment. If you are referring to the 2 (not so pale) guys, 1 who is sleeping on his shovel and the other who is siphoning petrol out of my tractor (to steal) - yes then they probably are my gardeners :-) Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Jun 15 12:04:47 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:04:47 +0200 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615210130.00cd9570@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 15/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 10 >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:03:58 -0400 >From: David Rotigel >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. >To: The SEL email discussion list >Message-ID: <13F1C0F6-92C5-49DD-8E68-CFDB7F5BA22B at me.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > >Hi Tom, Jerry owns that business as well. I've been told that it's a >motel--that charges by the hour! It's a secret, so don't tell anyone, >that's why I've sent this to you off LIST! > Dave > >On Jun 14, 2010, at 4:21 PM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > > > Nice photos of a nice place! What type business is across the road? Thanks Tom, Dave, damn, I told you that in confidence now you've blown everything!!!!! Daleside Home for Wayward Girls and Wanton Women, If you're "a wantin" we're "a givin" Chief Interviewer - Jerry Evans From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Jun 15 12:11:16 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:11:16 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 75, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615210507.00ce0f50@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 15/06/2010, you wrote: >From: "Elden" >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. >Jerry: > >I especially like the bunker next to the engines. You know, the one with >the .50 on the parapet. :-) > >Hmmm ...... Do I see shell craters in the street across from your entrance >gate? > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand Hi Elden, Thanks but now that this new govmunt has taken away our guns the best I have is a large catapult!! Those craters? Well, it's amazing what you can do with aerosol cans and Chinese fireworks :-) Keep well, Jerry From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Jun 15 12:13:58 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:13:58 +0200 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615211149.00cf2d00@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 15/06/2010, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:52:29 -0400 >From: "Mike Royster" >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > >Jerry, > > You must be related to us after all, I have both blue and gray tarps! >Nice place you have there "cuzin." > >Mike (the fewer tarps than last year) Royster Howdy Mike, Thanks, but do you have a red tarp? :-) keep well, Jerry From mr at carolina.rr.com Tue Jun 15 12:23:57 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:23:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] I'm back References: , , <65c2cf3793d56103299b58b38affd693.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D5E237C@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <835FED1FB05A4280BE1E301D05881017@larryf92159205> Message-ID: <002201cb0cc0$4d6e00a0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Sounds like both you gents had a great time! Steve and I are leaving now for Coolspring so pictures to come! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Anger" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] I'm back > George - the list has been quite quiet lately. My son and I just got back > from Europe a couple weeks ago. We had a good time. Went to the Nuenen > show > first then down into Germany, Luxembourg, Southern Holland, and Belgium. > The > last two nights we stayed in a hotel near the airport. On the Saturday we > took the bus into Central Station and spent the entire day in Amsterdam > and > bought a ticket for the water bus so we could get on and off as we wanted > in > various areas of the city. It was my first time to Amsterdam and enjoyed > the > time there. We really got to do a lot of stuff in the 10 days we were in > Europe. It was basically a EHOWT also because we had a car and tried to > see > as much as possible in the allowed time. We did get to Harry's place and > ate > Shwarma in the same little restaurant as last time. We got to Bert's place > so my son could see his toys. We also went to visit Huub Van de Ven one > night during the show. One thing I noticed George last week when I was in > London, Ontario which is just 35 minutes from my house, that there are all > kinds of little restaurants advertising that they have Shwarma. Until last > year on the trip I had never heard of Shawarma before. In reality it is > all > around me. > > Larry. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:50 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: [SEL] I'm back > > I unsubscribed for a couple of weeks while I was on vacation. > Resubscribed > today and haven't seen a single message posted so far. > > Is SEL just really quiet now or am I not subscribed? > > George > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized > representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by > e-mail > and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Jun 15 12:23:33 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:23:33 +0200 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615211432.00cf9610@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 15/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 13 >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:35:16 -0400 >From: "Steve W." >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > >Nice place. How much area do you own? >Who's the blonde sunbathing topless next to the river ????-- >Steve W. Hi Gene, Thanks. Not soooooo big - just under 5 acres - a very common size here. The area in the photo covered by the trees and river takes up more than half of it but is very pretty and has it's own mini ecosystem. There is quite a steep drop (not really obvious in the pic) from the edge of the tree line to the river. My house is probably about 40' to 50' foot higher than the river. I'm not sure about the blonde but the redhead is my daughter Jacqui :-) keep well, Jerry From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Jun 15 13:07:19 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:07:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] I'm back In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D5E2545@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: George: Just remember to keep on a-havin' fun! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 2:36 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] I'm back From james.kangas at timken.com Tue Jun 15 14:39:11 2010 From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:39:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615211432.00cf9610@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry, Things always sound so bad there, why don't you pack up and move to a more civilized place? Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Jerry Evans Sent: Tue 6/15/2010 3:23 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. At 06:00 PM 15/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 13 >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:35:16 -0400 >From: "Steve W." >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > >Nice place. How much area do you own? >Who's the blonde sunbathing topless next to the river ????-- >Steve W. Hi Gene, Thanks. Not soooooo big - just under 5 acres - a very common size here. The area in the photo covered by the trees and river takes up more than half of it but is very pretty and has it's own mini ecosystem. There is quite a steep drop (not really obvious in the pic) from the edge of the tree line to the river. My house is probably about 40' to 50' foot higher than the river. I'm not sure about the blonde but the redhead is my daughter Jacqui :-) keep well, Jerry _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Tue Jun 15 15:14:12 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 08:14:12 +1000 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615211432.00cf9610@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: I can answer that. My bro was engineering manager of Haggy Rand. The mine cable makers in Joburg. When the govt changed and the Rand dropped to such a low value, he, having just retired, was caught in an economic trap. As such, if he leaves there, he will be a pauper, having had the value of his money and possessions reduced to just about zero in the rest of the western world.. Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kangas, James G." To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. Jerry, Things always sound so bad there, why don't you pack up and move to a more civilized place? Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Jerry Evans Sent: Tue 6/15/2010 3:23 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. At 06:00 PM 15/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 13 >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:35:16 -0400 >From: "Steve W." >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > >Nice place. How much area do you own? >Who's the blonde sunbathing topless next to the river ????-- >Steve W. Hi Gene, Thanks. Not soooooo big - just under 5 acres - a very common size here. The area in the photo covered by the trees and river takes up more than half of it but is very pretty and has it's own mini ecosystem. There is quite a steep drop (not really obvious in the pic) from the edge of the tree line to the river. My house is probably about 40' to 50' foot higher than the river. I'm not sure about the blonde but the redhead is my daughter Jacqui :-) keep well, Jerry _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Tue Jun 15 15:31:59 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 08:31:59 +1000 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615211432.00cf9610@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: Further to, the Rand is fetching 13 US cents today. It was, at least equal back in earlier times when SA was managed in a better manner. The poverty of the black people is a major reason for all the crime. Their govt has no idea on how to raise it. They are too concerned about lining their own pockets. You agree Jerry? Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reg Ingold" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. >I can answer that. > My bro was engineering manager of Haggy Rand. The mine cable makers in > Joburg. When the govt changed and the Rand dropped to such a low value, > he, > having just retired, was caught in an economic trap. As such, if he leaves > there, he will be a pauper, having had the value of his money and > possessions reduced to just about zero in the rest of the western world.. > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle.NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kangas, James G." > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:39 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > > > Jerry, > Things always sound so bad there, why don't you pack up and move to a > more civilized place? > Jim K. > > ________________________________ > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Jerry Evans > Sent: Tue 6/15/2010 3:23 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > > > > At 06:00 PM 15/06/2010, you wrote: >>Message: 13 >>Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:35:16 -0400 >>From: "Steve W." >>Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. >> > > > >>Nice place. How much area do you own? >>Who's the blonde sunbathing topless next to the river ????-- >>Steve W. > > Hi Gene, > Thanks. Not soooooo big - just under 5 acres - a very common size > here. The area in the photo covered by the trees and river takes up more > than half of it but is very pretty and has it's own mini ecosystem. There > is quite a steep drop (not really obvious in the pic) from the edge of the > tree line to the river. My house is probably about 40' to 50' foot higher > than the river. > > I'm not sure about the blonde but the redhead is my daughter > Jacqui :-) > keep well, > Jerry > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or > entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please > do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to > others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, > and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The > Timken Corporation > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From james.kangas at timken.com Tue Jun 15 15:30:46 2010 From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:30:46 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615211432.00cf9610@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: So he can live O.K. if he stays there or is he living in poverty?. I'm reminded of all the immigrants who came to America with little or nothing to start a new live, but I guess things were different back then. Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Reg Ingold Sent: Tue 6/15/2010 6:14 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. I can answer that. My bro was engineering manager of Haggy Rand. The mine cable makers in Joburg. When the govt changed and the Rand dropped to such a low value, he, having just retired, was caught in an economic trap. As such, if he leaves there, he will be a pauper, having had the value of his money and possessions reduced to just about zero in the rest of the western world.. Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kangas, James G." To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. Jerry, Things always sound so bad there, why don't you pack up and move to a more civilized place? Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Jerry Evans Sent: Tue 6/15/2010 3:23 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. At 06:00 PM 15/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 13 >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:35:16 -0400 >From: "Steve W." >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > >Nice place. How much area do you own? >Who's the blonde sunbathing topless next to the river ????-- >Steve W. Hi Gene, Thanks. Not soooooo big - just under 5 acres - a very common size here. The area in the photo covered by the trees and river takes up more than half of it but is very pretty and has it's own mini ecosystem. There is quite a steep drop (not really obvious in the pic) from the edge of the tree line to the river. My house is probably about 40' to 50' foot higher than the river. I'm not sure about the blonde but the redhead is my daughter Jacqui :-) keep well, Jerry _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From tchristoff at earthlink.net Tue Jun 15 15:41:27 2010 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:41:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. Message-ID: <5041221.1276641687850.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Mike doesn't need a red trap Jerry, it would clash with his pretty white tarp. Tim Christoff >> >>Mike (the fewer tarps than last year) Royster > > >Howdy Mike, > Thanks, but do you have a red tarp? :-) >keep well, >Jerry > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From jdohagan at comcast.net Wed Jun 16 09:23:26 2010 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:23:26 -0700 Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine Message-ID: <2A7F6F89D39541A2A5070E49F4488DE1@VALUED3253602F> Hello,hope someone is still home that can help me out. What's the recipe for the boiled linseed oil rub? How long does it take to dry? Thanks for any ideas, Jimmy O'Hagan From George_Best at adp.com Wed Jun 16 09:41:56 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:41:56 -0500 Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine In-Reply-To: <2A7F6F89D39541A2A5070E49F4488DE1@VALUED3253602F> References: <2A7F6F89D39541A2A5070E49F4488DE1@VALUED3253602F> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D643BEC@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Jimmy, Are you getting something ready for the National Show next week? George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:23 AM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine Hello,hope someone is still home that can help me out. What's the recipe for the boiled linseed oil rub? How long does it take to dry? Thanks for any ideas, Jimmy O'Hagan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From obise at moscow.com Wed Jun 16 09:50:25 2010 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:50:25 -0700 Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine In-Reply-To: <2A7F6F89D39541A2A5070E49F4488DE1@VALUED3253602F> References: <2A7F6F89D39541A2A5070E49F4488DE1@VALUED3253602F> Message-ID: <561833BCEB1F485CBE11E3D734CF58EE@CathyComp> Jimmy, there are probably as many recipes as there are people using the combination. I take a few glugs of boiled linseed oil and thin it down until it is very runny. I estimate it is about 25 to 50-percent linseed oil, probably the former. I wipe it on with a lint-free rag, much like a person would do when cleaning up their engine. In our climate it takes about a week to set up firmly. The linseed oil treatment brings life back to faded colors. I heartily recommend it, especially for un-restored engines. Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:23 AM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine Hello,hope someone is still home that can help me out. What's the recipe for the boiled linseed oil rub? How long does it take to dry? Thanks for any ideas, Jimmy O'Hagan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Wed Jun 16 09:57:25 2010 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:57:25 -0600 Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine In-Reply-To: <2A7F6F89D39541A2A5070E49F4488DE1@VALUED3253602F> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D643BEC@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <2A7F6F89D39541A2A5070E49F4488DE1@VALUED3253602F> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D643BEC@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: 50/50 BOILED Linseed Oil and Mineral spirits, Jimmy...maybe a day or so to dry..depending on your weather. RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Best, George" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] applied finish for engine > Jimmy, > > Are you getting something ready for the National Show next week? > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:23 AM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine > > Hello,hope someone is still home that can help me out. What's the recipe > for > the boiled linseed oil rub? How long does it take to dry? Thanks for any > ideas, Jimmy O'Hagan > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments > from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jdohagan at comcast.net Wed Jun 16 10:02:05 2010 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:02:05 -0700 Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D643BEC@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <2A7F6F89D39541A2A5070E49F4488DE1@VALUED3253602F> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D643BEC@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: Trying to ,George.It's got a Kansas "TAN" that I'd like to freshen up a little. Cya there! -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:42 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] applied finish for engine Jimmy, Are you getting something ready for the National Show next week? George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:23 AM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine Hello,hope someone is still home that can help me out. What's the recipe for the boiled linseed oil rub? How long does it take to dry? Thanks for any ideas, Jimmy O'Hagan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jdohagan at comcast.net Wed Jun 16 10:08:19 2010 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:08:19 -0700 Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine In-Reply-To: References: <2A7F6F89D39541A2A5070E49F4488DE1@VALUED3253602F><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D643BEC@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: Thanks Guys! Off to the hardware store. Sounds like ,it's better to get this stuff applied sooner than later. Cya, Jimmy -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard Strobel Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:57 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] applied finish for engine 50/50 BOILED Linseed Oil and Mineral spirits, Jimmy...maybe a day or so to dry..depending on your weather. RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Best, George" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] applied finish for engine > Jimmy, > > Are you getting something ready for the National Show next week? > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Hagan > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:23 AM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: [SEL] applied finish for engine > > Hello,hope someone is still home that can help me out. What's the recipe > for > the boiled linseed oil rub? How long does it take to dry? Thanks for any > ideas, Jimmy O'Hagan > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments > from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From marinesurveys at msn.com Wed Jun 16 11:37:57 2010 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:37:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Miller Falls Valve grinding Tool In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615161800.00cfb1c8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615130307.00cc2b40@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za>, <5.2.1.1.2.20100615161800.00cfb1c8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: Hi Folks; A while back someone was looking for a Valve Grinding Tool. I spotted a nice one on E-Bay, same as one I have, they work well for what they are. The Item # is 220608136276 , with a day left & buy it now for $9.99 Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Jun 16 13:27:53 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 22:27:53 +0200 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100616213151.02356030@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 16/06/2010, you wrote: > >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > >I can answer that. >My bro was engineering manager of Haggy Rand. The mine cable makers in >Joburg. When the govt changed and the Rand dropped to such a low value, he, >having just retired, was caught in an economic trap. As such, if he leaves >there, he will be a pauper, having had the value of his money and >possessions reduced to just about zero in the rest of the western world.. >Reg & Marg Ingold >From: "Kangas, James G." > (I can actually spell) > >Jerry, > Things always sound so bad there, why don't you pack up and move to a >more civilized place? > Jim K. Hi James (and Reg), Reg has just answered your question better than I could have ever hoped to do. He is 100% accurate in his description of our situation. I never chose to be born into this situation but we used to have a tremendous country (and life), we were economically viable and self sufficient, we had great industries and were right up there at the top as far as "technology" was concerned. We had excellent hospitals, schools and universities, we had an excellent infrastructure (roads, railways, industry and government) until the rest of the western world decided that "Politically Correct" was the way to go. They chose to forget that the people who built this country (and many other African countries) were descended from great western nations (as was your country). They chose to be seen as "humanitarians" and "Politically Correct" arseholes and dropped us in the "brown stuff". This is an "engine list" so I think it's better that I stop here. (I could go on for pages). Suffice to say that we make the most of a bad situation because that is the only choice that we have. Thank goodness that we can appreciate something like collecting old engines and corresponding with great people worldwide with similar interests. Reg was one of the first members of this list to welcome me as a new member and I have always respected his knowledge and wisdom (and even his eccentricities). Reg has a brother who, as he mentioned, is caught in the same trap as I am (and lives less than 20 Km's. from me). Thanks Reg, you are a great mate. Yes, I probably do have a "chip on my shoulder" but it is definitely not aimed at any of the many (and great) people I have met on these lists, Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Jun 16 13:40:57 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:40:57 EDT Subject: [SEL] Miller Falls Valve grinding Tool Message-ID: <8cbbd.1c1a42df.394a90d9@aol.com> Frank, Here are a couple of pictures of my valve lapper. It is brass and steel. Works by reversing the meshing of the two gears on the vertical shaft and the 3 sets of teeth on the rotating handle gear. Sadly no name or markings anywhere. _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/valve1.jpg_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/valve1.jpg) _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/valve2.jpg_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/valve2.jpg) Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Jun 16 14:15:48 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 23:15:48 +0200 Subject: [SEL] "Aerial photo etc." Now getting VERY O.T. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100616222949.02362370@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 16/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 15 >Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 08:31:59 +1000 >From: "Reg Ingold" >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. >To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > >Further to, the Rand is fetching 13 US cents today. It was, at least equal >back in earlier times when SA was managed in a better manner. >The poverty of the black people is a major reason for all the crime. Their >govt has no idea on how to raise it. They are too concerned about lining >their own pockets. >You agree Jerry? >Reg Hi Reg, Thanks for your support - I appreciate it. Yes, in the "Old South Africa" our currency was much stronger and equal to the dollar. I also agree in part that the crime rate is to do with poverty but I think that today it has more to do with a total disregard for the "forces of law and order". Petty crime probably can be blamed on poverty but we are faced with far more serious (and violent) crime. Our South African Police force used to enjoy a lot of respect internationally as an "effective" force. You posted an article recently (albeit to Slick) about showing how this is no longer the case. That is just so true. The "masses" (and it's them who blindly carry the vote) are only interested in "false promises", "threats" and promises of Utopia. The "lot (or living standard)" of the majority of "native people" has probably got a lot worse in the last 19 years but they do realise this. Our University qualifications are no longer recognized universally. Our "Police Force" is a joke. Our "Defence Force" is also a joke (where in the world are "soldiers" allowed to go on strike and trash the capital city?). (Any list members who do not belive me are welcome to write to me and I will supply "links"). Reg, this is an engine list so I'm not going to go further. Again thanks for your support, I do appreciate a voice of reason. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Jun 16 14:22:29 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 23:22:29 +0200 Subject: [SEL] immigration In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100616231839.023536a0@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> >From: "Kangas, James G." >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > >So he can live O.K. if he stays there or is he living in poverty?. I'm >reminded of all the immigrants who came to America with little or nothing >to start a new live, but I guess things were different back then. > Jim K. James, Are you reminded of the immigrants about 200 years ago? Are you a democrat? Get with the programme - it is 2010! Jerry From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Jun 16 14:33:21 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 23:33:21 +0200 Subject: [SEL] My aerial pic Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100616232311.023b9970@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi all, Regarding my "Off Topic" post of an aerial pic of my home. Amazing how these "Off Topic" posts seem to generate so many posts! This one got a lot of replies and I apologise to all the guys and gals on the list who do not like "off topic" posts. The lists (both SEL and oldengine) were a bit quiet so it's always good to stir up something that brings up some controversy. Thanks for not complaining. My next post will be about engines I promise :-) Watch for it in a few hours!!!!!! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From obise at moscow.com Wed Jun 16 14:58:07 2010 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:58:07 -0700 Subject: [SEL] My aerial pic In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100616232311.023b9970@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100616232311.023b9970@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: There's no need for any apology, Jerry. It has been a fascinating thread. Thank goodness we're a circle of acquaintances who can be frank with one another and don't tremble in fear of the PC Police. Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 2:33 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] My aerial pic Hi all, Regarding my "Off Topic" post of an aerial pic of my home. Amazing how these "Off Topic" posts seem to generate so many posts! This one got a lot of replies and I apologise to all the guys and gals on the list who do not like "off topic" posts. The lists (both SEL and oldengine) were a bit quiet so it's always good to stir up something that brings up some controversy. Thanks for not complaining. My next post will be about engines I promise :-) Watch for it in a few hours!!!!!! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Jun 16 15:25:11 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:25:11 EDT Subject: [SEL] My aerial pic Message-ID: <3eac0.58a4e5dc.394aa947@aol.com> In a message dated 6/16/2010 6:09:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, obise at moscow.com writes: who can be frank with one another and don't tremble in fear of the PC Police. Sometimes I tremble in fear of Dave! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Jun 16 15:46:11 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 00:46:11 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Ruston HR1 pics Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100617003754.023b62a8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi all, I promised and "engine related" post within 2 hours (on the SEL List) so here it is. I was lucky enough to acquire a Ruston & Hornsby HR1 recently. Today I got a chance to take a few pics - here are the first 4. I'll update the page "as and when" - the engine has quite a few missing parts (one of those cases where a previous owner (not an engineman) decided to "fix it" but all the parts got put in boxes and ultimately got lost. For those who are interested click on this link: Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From james.kangas at timken.com Wed Jun 16 15:48:14 2010 From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:48:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] immigration References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100616231839.023536a0@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry, Not 200 years ago, maybe 100 years ago. I was thinking about my grandparents on both sides. Both came hear pretty much with the clothes on their backs. and with hard work did quite well for themselves. I work with a couple of Philippines' who scraped and saved to pay the fees to come here legally and they still work their butts off and are doing very well for themselves. I'm a conservative not a democrat. Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Jerry Evans Sent: Wed 6/16/2010 5:22 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] immigration >From: "Kangas, James G." >Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > >So he can live O.K. if he stays there or is he living in poverty?. I'm >reminded of all the immigrants who came to America with little or nothing >to start a new live, but I guess things were different back then. > Jim K. James, Are you reminded of the immigrants about 200 years ago? Are you a democrat? Get with the programme - it is 2010! Jerry _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Jun 16 19:56:18 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 22:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] My aerial pic In-Reply-To: <3eac0.58a4e5dc.394aa947@aol.com> References: <3eac0.58a4e5dc.394aa947@aol.com> Message-ID: Hah. Dave's a pussycat. Just ask Dolly. 8-)) On Wed, June 16, 2010 6:25 pm, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > Sometimes I tremble in fear of Dave! From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Jun 16 20:25:05 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:25:05 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Witte headless parts wanted Message-ID: <20100616.202533.1097.177778@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> Hi all. my 12 hp headless Witte is missing the parts to change the speed. Do any of you have spare parts or parts I could borrow to have cast or make? I need the speeder fork, speeder bracket, nut, spring and stem. Thanks. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c1995e2dfe31477f82st01vuc From cgandree at mchsi.com Thu Jun 17 03:29:22 2010 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 05:29:22 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] SAD NEWS Message-ID: <1463260599.3758611276770562648.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Hi All, Just received word from Peter Lowe that his Mother passed away. Our Deepest sympathy to Peter and his family during this time of sorrow. Curt & Becky Andree From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu Jun 17 03:58:57 2010 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:58:57 +1000 Subject: [SEL] SAD NEWS In-Reply-To: <1463260599.3758611276770562648.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> References: <1463260599.3758611276770562648.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <7E5B373D72DD47A69FA5C0B86047A344@KerryPC> That is indeed sad news, thanks Curt Kerry From flywheelin at hotmail.com Thu Jun 17 04:36:58 2010 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:36:58 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Thanks Elden! I'm impressed. I never would have guessed that. Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ---------------------------------------- > From: edurand at mchsi.com > > Luke: > > The last "Thing" is a part of a wind-up victrola or Edison phonograph motor. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Luke > Tonneberger > > ........................snip......................... > > What in the world is this thing for? > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-660F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-661F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-662F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-664F.JPG > _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From flywheelin at hotmail.com Thu Jun 17 04:39:30 2010 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:39:30 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification In-Reply-To: <20100614191640.552B79378@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20100614191640.552B79378@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Thanks Mark. Now to find someone that needs these things...... Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ---------------------------------------- > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:16:47 -0400 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > From: frappi at wcoil.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification > > The XH magneto and its variants went on many applications. The spec > number on the mag tells the story on a particular mag. I think > Gravelys were one that used a XH. Mark > > > Dittos to what Elden says on the last item. Definitely appears to be > a record or roll player wind up piece. The coil is for an XH Wico > Magneto. Thats an old number. Mark > > > At 02:02 PM 6/14/2010, you wrote: >>Luke: >> >>The last "Thing" is a part of a wind-up victrola or Edison phonograph motor. >> >>Take care - Elden >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Luke >>Tonneberger >> >>........................snip......................... >> >>What in the world is this thing for? >> >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-660F.JPG >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-661F.JPG >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-662F.JPG >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-664F.JPG >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Mark Shulaw > 454 County Road 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From flywheelin at hotmail.com Thu Jun 17 04:45:48 2010 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:45:48 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification In-Reply-To: <58C53D7BAC244898A8F742F715EA8EDD@HomeDesktop2> References: , <58C53D7BAC244898A8F742F715EA8EDD@HomeDesktop2> Message-ID: Hi Les, The inlet and outlet have threaded holes on the second item with the IHC logo. I don't think rubber hoses hooked up to it. I was hoping someone would be able to look up the part number that is casted into it and be able to tell what engine it came off of. The governor looking thingy was identified as part of a Victrola or Edison phonograph wind up motor. Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ---------------------------------------- > From: spiveylk at gru.net > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Subject: Re: Need Help With Parts Identification > Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:52:17 -0400 > > The 2nd one looks more like a water pump. The connection ends look like > they are for rubber hose. The fourth one looks like some type of adjustable > governor. Must be fairly low speed as there isn't much bearing surface. > As to what either one is for, I have no idea. Les > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Luke Tonneberger" > > > Looks like a fuel pump, what engine would it go on? > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-668F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG > > > > > Looks like an IHC fuel pump, what engine would it go on? > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-676F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-677F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-674F.JPG > > > Luke Tonneberger > Rockford, Michigan > USA _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From flywheelin at hotmail.com Thu Jun 17 04:49:53 2010 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:49:53 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Hi Tommy, I didn't see an IH logo on the first item below. The size of the second one is quite substantial so it must be off of a larger engine. I'll have to do some searching online to see if I can find something..... Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ---------------------------------------- > From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:00 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification > > Luke, > Not sure but could this possibly be off of a Mogul? Some of the > IH guys will know for sure. > > Looks like a fuel pump, what engine would it go on? > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-668F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG > > > > You might have to give some additional dimensions although the IH guys > can look it up on the parts listing and tell you. Its for an engine, > could be the 4, 6, 8, 10 etc horizontals or if it?s a small pump for the > 2 ? Famous. > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-676F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-677F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-674F.JPG > > Luke Tonneberger > Rockford, Michigan > USA > _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From flywheelin at hotmail.com Thu Jun 17 08:30:16 2010 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:30:16 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2008 Show Pictures Message-ID: Catching up on creating web pages of show pictures. Here is what I have from Portland 2008. http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/port08/portland2008.html Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Jun 17 09:09:26 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:09:26 EDT Subject: [SEL] Portland 2008 Show Pictures Message-ID: <189f7.55bb9387.394ba2b6@aol.com> Luke, Some great photos of nice engines. Photo 502, Springfield, what is happening with the brass tube going into the vertical red pipe? Is that where gas is injected? Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Jun 17 14:46:17 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:46:17 EDT Subject: [SEL] gas tank help Message-ID: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> My kerosene tank under the Famous engine has 100 years of gunk in it. Probably a good 3/16 inch layer on the bottom side. The only access is thru a 1 1/2 inch pipe flange adapter on one side at one end. The tank is 9 tall x 13 wide x 40 long. About 1/3 from each end is a pipe going from top to bottom and is where the mounting bolts go thru the tank to hold in place. So, putting a chain in it and sloshing around does not work due to the thru pipes getting in the way. I can put a long scraper thru the pipe flange on the end and scrape lots of nice gunk! I can only scrape from one side to the other and for a distance down length of a few inches. The gunk is pretty dense and hard from all the years. What I am thinking about doing is to cut a hole on the top side in the middle about 3x3 to access the tank. I believe with this I can scrape the majority of the tank bottom and up the sides an inch or so. After doing that, then use gas/etc., and some rocks/nuts//chain, I can then rock it for a while and get most of the junk scraped out. Having this access hole would ensure getting all the cleaning parts out. Next make a new cover, JB Weld with pop rivets. Next put in tank sealer everywhere. Anyone ever done this or have a better idea? The gunk in the bottom is starting to give me running problems. Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Jun 17 15:22:07 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:22:07 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification Message-ID: Luke The phonograph casting is not Edison, Victor or Columbia. It looks like it could be a Thorens or Garrad motor. I will look around some more. The casting is worth nothing as they do not break or wear, I'd just keep the speed control assembly & the governor, and all the screws & bearings that go with it. These are often inter-changable between motors, and it's always good to have a matched set of 3 weights & springs on hand, as they would fit many other brands of motors too. Peter, Oz > I have several parts listed here and would like to indentify them. Can > you help?? > > > Looks like a fuel pump, what engine would it go on? > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-668F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG > > > > > Looks like an IHC fuel pump, what engine would it go on? > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-676F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-677F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-674F.JPG > > > > > What engine would this coil go to or on? > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-652F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-653F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-655F.JPG > > > > > > What in the world is this thing for? > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-660F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-661F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-662F.JPG > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-664F.JPG > > > > Luke Tonneberger > Rockford, Michigan > USA > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your > inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 > To UN-subscribe, send a message to: > > stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org > with: > unsubscribe > in the subject of the message. Nothing else, no SIGs, etc. > > > > To UN-subscribe, send a message to: > > stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org > with: > unsubscribe > in the subject of the message. Nothing else, no SIGs, etc. > From r7734g at hotmail.com Thu Jun 17 15:54:32 2010 From: r7734g at hotmail.com (Ron Gerlach) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:54:32 -0700 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help In-Reply-To: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> References: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> Message-ID: Tom Put in some small pebbles and sand along with an entire can of kitchen cleanser and enough water to cover all the added abrasives; maybe 1/3 full. Agitate as best you can. You do something as simple as put it in the back of your truck or car trunk and drive around with the concoction for a week before dumping it out. A thorough cleaning with water and de-greaser after wards should leave you with a fairly clean tank. If not repeat, a second or third time. Ron > From: Germoamer at aol.com > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:46:17 -0400 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] gas tank help > > My kerosene tank under the Famous engine has 100 years of gunk in it. > Probably a good 3/16 inch layer on the bottom side. The only access is thru a > 1 1/2 inch pipe flange adapter on one side at one end. The tank is 9 tall > x 13 wide x 40 long. About 1/3 from each end is a pipe going from top to > bottom and is where the mounting bolts go thru the tank to hold in place. > So, putting a chain in it and sloshing around does not work due to the thru > pipes getting in the way. I can put a long scraper thru the pipe flange > on the end and scrape lots of nice gunk! I can only scrape from one side to > the other and for a distance down length of a few inches. The gunk is > pretty dense and hard from all the years. > > What I am thinking about doing is to cut a hole on the top side in the > middle about 3x3 to access the tank. I believe with this I can scrape the > majority of the tank bottom and up the sides an inch or so. After doing that, > then use gas/etc., and some rocks/nuts//chain, I can then rock it for a > while and get most of the junk scraped out. Having this access hole would > ensure getting all the cleaning parts out. > > Next make a new cover, JB Weld with pop rivets. Next put in tank sealer > everywhere. > > Anyone ever done this or have a better idea? The gunk in the bottom is > starting to give me running problems. > > Thanks, > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From nancydick at pennswoods.net Thu Jun 17 16:11:11 2010 From: nancydick at pennswoods.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:11:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help In-Reply-To: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> References: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> Message-ID: <4c1aac16.8201df0a.10e1.ffff8214@mx.google.com> Tom did you try putting some lacquer thinner in it. I would try about a gallon and cover or close up as tite as you can let sit a day and see what you have. R Fink PA At 05:46 PM 6/17/2010 -0400, you wrote: >My kerosene tank under the Famous engine has 100 years of gunk in it. >Probably a good 3/16 inch layer on the bottom side. The only access >is thru a >1 1/2 inch pipe flange adapter on one side at one end. The tank is 9 tall >x 13 wide x 40 long. About 1/3 from each end is a pipe going from top to >bottom and is where the mounting bolts go thru the tank to hold in place. >So, putting a chain in it and sloshing around does not work due to the thru >pipes getting in the way. I can put a long scraper thru the pipe flange >on the end and scrape lots of nice gunk! I can only scrape from one side to >the other and for a distance down length of a few inches. The gunk is >pretty dense and hard from all the years. > >What I am thinking about doing is to cut a hole on the top side in the >middle about 3x3 to access the tank. I believe with this I can scrape the >majority of the tank bottom and up the sides an inch or so. After >doing that, >then use gas/etc., and some rocks/nuts//chain, I can then rock it for a >while and get most of the junk scraped out. Having this access hole would >ensure getting all the cleaning parts out. > >Next make a new cover, JB Weld with pop rivets. Next put in tank sealer >everywhere. > >Anyone ever done this or have a better idea? The gunk in the bottom is >starting to give me running problems. > >Thanks, > >Tom Schmutz >Concord, Va. >germoamer at AOL.com >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Jun 17 16:18:37 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:18:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help In-Reply-To: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> Message-ID: Tom: You can dissolve a lot of that stuff (and rust and your eyes and skin) by using sodium hydroxide, commonly known as lye or caustic soda. It can be found in the detergent section of some stores under the brand name "Red Devil". You can also get it at a chemical supply house. Use caution with this stuff. It will burn your skin something fierce if you get any of it on you. It is exothermic. In other words, when you mix the dry chemical with water, it will get HOT and boil until the reaction with the water is complete. What I've done is to (outside!!!!) put the tank on the ground and, while it is still dry of water, pour in a generous amount of the caustic soda. Then, with a hose, VERY CAREFULLY fill the tank (be ready to jump back if it starts spewing) about half full and then just let it sit for a day or two, giving it a careful slosh once in a while. The caustic soda will go after rust and most petroleum products like grease and paint but will not attack the clean metal after the rust is gone so you can just let it sit for a while. Remember hot dip tanks at radiator shops and engine rebuilders' places. They used caustic soda. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Germoamer at aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:46 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] gas tank help My kerosene tank under the Famous engine has 100 years of gunk in it. Probably a good 3/16 inch layer on the bottom side. The only access is thru a 1 1/2 inch pipe flange adapter on one side at one end. The tank is 9 tall x 13 wide x 40 long. About 1/3 from each end is a pipe going from top to bottom and is where the mounting bolts go thru the tank to hold in place. So, putting a chain in it and sloshing around does not work due to the thru pipes getting in the way. I can put a long scraper thru the pipe flange on the end and scrape lots of nice gunk! I can only scrape from one side to the other and for a distance down length of a few inches. The gunk is pretty dense and hard from all the years. What I am thinking about doing is to cut a hole on the top side in the middle about 3x3 to access the tank. I believe with this I can scrape the majority of the tank bottom and up the sides an inch or so. After doing that, then use gas/etc., and some rocks/nuts//chain, I can then rock it for a while and get most of the junk scraped out. Having this access hole would ensure getting all the cleaning parts out. Next make a new cover, JB Weld with pop rivets. Next put in tank sealer everywhere. Anyone ever done this or have a better idea? The gunk in the bottom is starting to give me running problems. Thanks, Tom Schmutz From don.h at wcoil.com Thu Jun 17 16:43:28 2010 From: don.h at wcoil.com (Don Heringhaus) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:43:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help In-Reply-To: References: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> Message-ID: <31FDB79A2E574CDB9AA1210835CE517A@gusPC> The only way to do it and the easy way put a handful of dry wall screws in the tank wrap the tank in a old blanket tie the blanket or duck tape it down Then take it to your local paint store and put in on the 5 gallon shaker it will make it just like new inside. You might have to move the tank upside down to get all the tank clean it really works good best of all you don't have any sand that will gum up your carb for years. I have done a lot of tanks this way ,Cushman's,lawn mowers,hit and miss engines then go get some sealer and seal the inside because your sure to open up a rust spot so fix it right.. Don in Ohio From bboyce at swat.coop Thu Jun 17 16:52:00 2010 From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:52:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help In-Reply-To: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> References: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> Message-ID: <73E8BF0C1CEE43E588301093BFF42EA5@billPC> acetone, or laquer thinner really works wonders on gas tank build up,,,that would be the least expensive and easiest first attempt at cleaning it,,,, bill boyce ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [SEL] gas tank help > My kerosene tank under the Famous engine has 100 years of gunk in it. > Probably a good 3/16 inch layer on the bottom side. The only access is > thru a > 1 1/2 inch pipe flange adapter on one side at one end. The tank is 9 > tall > x 13 wide x 40 long. About 1/3 from each end is a pipe going from top to > bottom and is where the mounting bolts go thru the tank to hold in place. > So, putting a chain in it and sloshing around does not work due to the > thru > pipes getting in the way. I can put a long scraper thru the pipe flange > on the end and scrape lots of nice gunk! I can only scrape from one side > to > the other and for a distance down length of a few inches. The gunk is > pretty dense and hard from all the years. > > What I am thinking about doing is to cut a hole on the top side in the > middle about 3x3 to access the tank. I believe with this I can scrape the > majority of the tank bottom and up the sides an inch or so. After doing > that, > then use gas/etc., and some rocks/nuts//chain, I can then rock it for a > while and get most of the junk scraped out. Having this access hole > would > ensure getting all the cleaning parts out. > > Next make a new cover, JB Weld with pop rivets. Next put in tank sealer > everywhere. > > Anyone ever done this or have a better idea? The gunk in the bottom is > starting to give me running problems. > > Thanks, > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rex002 at centurytel.net Thu Jun 17 17:20:52 2010 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:20:52 -0500 Subject: [SEL] My Hit Miss Engine Message-ID: <2841C5318B0D47488197D82B357743EA@homebase> Hey Everyone check out my Economy on You Tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkIOEU7yLMg From rex002 at centurytel.net Thu Jun 17 17:27:53 2010 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:27:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help References: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> Message-ID: Tom Do you have a radiator shop with an ultra sound cleaner near you , our local shop uses it to clean radiators and it removes all the gunk , Just a thought Rex Hinz ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [SEL] gas tank help > My kerosene tank under the Famous engine has 100 years of gunk in it. > Probably a good 3/16 inch layer on the bottom side. The only access is > thru a > > Anyone ever done this or have a better idea? The gunk in the bottom is > starting to give me running problems. > > Thanks, > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2944 - Release Date: 06/17/10 06:33:00 From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Jun 17 17:33:16 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:33:16 EDT Subject: [SEL] gas tank help Message-ID: <386c7.39e6023c.394c18cc@aol.com> Don, Being 40 inches long, and have not calculated it but probably close to 10 gallons, it might will not work on the paint shaker. I am going to try a number of ideas before I cut it open. Thanks Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Jun 17 17:34:47 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:34:47 EDT Subject: [SEL] gas tank help Message-ID: <387fa.33ec6d0a.394c1927@aol.com> Bill, Gallon lacquer thinner in it right now soaking for the night along with a dozen large steel nuts to shake up. Thanks Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Jun 17 17:36:32 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:36:32 EDT Subject: [SEL] gas tank help Message-ID: <38985.2aa8464e.394c1990@aol.com> In a message dated 6/17/2010 8:29:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rex002 at centurytel.net writes: Do you have a radiator shop with an ultra sound cleaner near you Rex, May do some calling around tomorrow and see. Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Jun 17 17:39:15 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:39:15 EDT Subject: [SEL] gas tank help Message-ID: <38b92.22123f3e.394c1a33@aol.com> In a message dated 6/17/2010 6:59:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, r7734g at hotmail.com writes: You do something as simple as put it in the back of your truck or car trunk and drive around with the concoction for a week before dumping it out Be a good idea to let the wife drive the truck with tank in back. My father used to say she drove like a "bat out of hell"! Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Jun 17 17:40:02 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:40:02 EDT Subject: [SEL] gas tank help Message-ID: <38c3a.2fa2c508.394c1a62@aol.com> In a message dated 6/17/2010 6:59:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, r7734g at hotmail.com writes: entire can of kitchen cleanser and Ron, What type of cleanser are you thinking about? Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Jun 17 17:46:43 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:46:43 -0400 Subject: [SEL] My Hit Miss Engine In-Reply-To: <2841C5318B0D47488197D82B357743EA@homebase> Message-ID: Nice! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Jun 17 17:51:33 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:51:33 -0400 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help In-Reply-To: <386c7.39e6023c.394c18cc@aol.com> Message-ID: Tom: I just had a thought. If you have a tractor that has rear wheels big enough, just fill the tank with the solvent of your choice and a handful of nuts and washers then duck tape the tank to one of the tractor wheels. After you mow the north forty, you should have a pretty good idea if it will work. By the way, depending on what mechanical shape your tractor is in, you may or may not be able to tell the difference between the sound of the junk rattling around inside the tank and the sound of the tractor. :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Germoamer at aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:33 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help Don, Being 40 inches long, and have not calculated it but probably close to 10 gallons, it might will not work on the paint shaker. I am going to try a number of ideas before I cut it open. From r7734g at hotmail.com Thu Jun 17 18:13:50 2010 From: r7734g at hotmail.com (Ron Gerlach) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:13:50 -0700 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help In-Reply-To: <38c3a.2fa2c508.394c1a62@aol.com> References: <38c3a.2fa2c508.394c1a62@aol.com> Message-ID: Tom I use Ajax scouring cleanser. http://www.hardwareandtools.com/Colgate-Palmolive-05361-Ajax-21-Ounce-Cleanser-6721468.html They also make "NON SCRATCHING" formulas which you do not want. You want the abrasive action. Ron > From: Germoamer at aol.com > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:40:02 -0400 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help > > > In a message dated 6/17/2010 6:59:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > r7734g at hotmail.com writes: > > entire can of kitchen cleanser and > > > Ron, > > What type of cleanser are you thinking about? > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From don.h at wcoil.com Thu Jun 17 20:11:11 2010 From: don.h at wcoil.com (Don) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:11:11 -0500 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help In-Reply-To: <386c7.39e6023c.394c18cc@aol.com> References: <386c7.39e6023c.394c18cc@aol.com> Message-ID: <1C96F70254254ED4BEEFB69D2407E4A6@DonPC> ok on the size I cleaned a tank out of a Cushman trickster that was bigger then that a 5 gal shaker is a big shaker that moves slowly not like a 1 gallon can shaker that go's 1000mph hi hi I let it shake about 30 minuets on a side.. don -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:33 PM To: Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help > Don, > > Being 40 inches long, and have not calculated it but probably close to 10 > gallons, it might will not work on the paint shaker. I am going to try a > number of ideas before I cut it open. > > > Thanks > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From camaned at iinet.net.au Fri Jun 18 03:25:38 2010 From: camaned at iinet.net.au (Cam Grundy) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 20:25:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT Message-ID: Hi, one for the Aussies. Well we finally got our new club up and running which is the Central Coast Machinery Club inc it all happened on Wed night, there was a great turn out ( 42 signed the book ) and we finished up with 28 members and more to come, So now we will have to start setting a show or two. More to come Later. Cam. Cam and Edwina Grundy Kariong NSW 2250 AUS From alanwh at iinet.net.au Fri Jun 18 03:36:26 2010 From: alanwh at iinet.net.au (Alan Wheaton) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 20:36:26 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5A6DDB02D86E4FBD82D30E869474265E@shack> Great Cam We will keep in touch Alan Subject: [SEL] New Club OT Hi, one for the Aussies. Well we finally got our new club up and running which is the Central Coast Machinery Club inc it all happened on Wed night, there was a great turn out ( 42 signed the book ) and we finished up with 28 members and more to come, So now we will have to start setting a show or two. More to come Later. Cam. Cam and Edwina Grundy Kariong NSW 2250 AUS _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From camaned at iinet.net.au Fri Jun 18 03:44:41 2010 From: camaned at iinet.net.au (Cam Grundy) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 20:44:41 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT In-Reply-To: <5A6DDB02D86E4FBD82D30E869474265E@shack> References: <5A6DDB02D86E4FBD82D30E869474265E@shack> Message-ID: <00B1E183DC004E589047F4BF2461778B@CamPC> Thanks Al, I will Mate. Cam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Wheaton" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] New Club OT > > Great Cam > We will keep in touch > > Alan > > > > Subject: [SEL] New Club OT > > Hi, one for the Aussies. Well we finally got our new club up and running > which is the Central Coast Machinery Club inc it all happened on Wed > night, > there was a great turn out ( 42 signed the book ) and we finished up with > 28 > > members and more to come, So now we will have to start setting a show or > two. More to come Later. > Cam. > > > Cam and Edwina Grundy > Kariong > NSW 2250 > AUS > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Fri Jun 18 03:48:12 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 20:48:12 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well done guys. I hope it all goes well. Patrick On 18/6/10 8:25 PM, "Cam Grundy" wrote: > Hi, one for the Aussies. Well we finally got our new club up and running > which is the Central Coast Machinery Club inc it all happened on Wed night, > there was a great turn out ( 42 signed the book ) and we finished up with 28 > members and more to come, So now we will have to start setting a show or > two. More to come Later. > Cam. > > > Cam and Edwina Grundy > Kariong > NSW 2250 > AUS > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From camaned at iinet.net.au Fri Jun 18 04:15:39 2010 From: camaned at iinet.net.au (Cam Grundy) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 21:15:39 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9B7DD01E81BA41B6B2C0718EB4B20511@CamPC> Hi Patrick Yes Mate we are more than happy with that on the first night, Howard joined but times are still tough, he's a great bloke. Catchya Cam. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Livingstone" To: "ATIS" Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] New Club OT > Well done guys. > I hope it all goes well. > Patrick > > > On 18/6/10 8:25 PM, "Cam Grundy" wrote: > >> Hi, one for the Aussies. Well we finally got our new club up and running >> which is the Central Coast Machinery Club inc it all happened on Wed >> night, >> there was a great turn out ( 42 signed the book ) and we finished up with >> 28 >> members and more to come, So now we will have to start setting a show or >> two. More to come Later. >> Cam. >> >> >> Cam and Edwina Grundy >> Kariong >> NSW 2250 >> AUS >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From flywheelin at hotmail.com Fri Jun 18 08:07:08 2010 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:07:08 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification In-Reply-To: References: , , , Message-ID: You're correct Tommy. Thanks. I found a couple online books that showed a fuel pump just like the one I have. http://www.archive.org/details/ihcvictorfamousg00inte http://www.archive.org/details/internationalhar00inte Now I just need to find out what this fuel pump goes to: http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-668F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ---------------------------------------- > From: flywheelin at hotmail.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:49:53 +0000 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification > > > Hi Tommy, > > I didn't see an IH logo on the first item below. The size of the second one is quite substantial so it must be off of a larger engine. I'll have to do some searching online to see if I can find something..... > > Luke Tonneberger > Rockford, Michigan > USA > > > ---------------------------------------- >> From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:00 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification >> >> Luke, >> Not sure but could this possibly be off of a Mogul? Some of the >> IH guys will know for sure. >> >> Looks like a fuel pump, what engine would it go on? >> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-668F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG >> >> >> >> You might have to give some additional dimensions although the IH guys >> can look it up on the parts listing and tell you. Its for an engine, >> could be the 4, 6, 8, 10 etc horizontals or if it?s a small pump for the >> 2 ? Famous. >> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-676F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-677F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-674F.JPG >> >> Luke Tonneberger >> Rockford, Michigan >> USA _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From oldironnut at windstream.net Fri Jun 18 08:29:57 2010 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:29:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Recognize any of these names? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C1B90F5.7060907@windstream.net> Howdy all, I was doing a quick Google search for release agents for JB Weld and I ran across this page . There are a lot of familiar names in that discussion from 1996! From flywheelin at hotmail.com Fri Jun 18 08:31:01 2010 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:31:01 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification In-Reply-To: References: , , , Message-ID: The other fuel pump I have here: http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG It looks like a mirror image to the one I found on a Mogul side shaft here, if you go to 30 seconds in it shows a good view of the fuel pump: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8DQIEAwdxw Does someone have a parts book for IH that they could check the casting numbers? Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ---------------------------------------- > From: flywheelin at hotmail.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:49:53 +0000 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification > > > Hi Tommy, > > I didn't see an IH logo on the first item below. The size of the second one is quite substantial so it must be off of a larger engine. I'll have to do some searching online to see if I can find something..... > > Luke Tonneberger > Rockford, Michigan > USA > > > ---------------------------------------- >> From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:00 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification >> >> Luke, >> Not sure but could this possibly be off of a Mogul? Some of the >> IH guys will know for sure. >> >> Looks like a fuel pump, what engine would it go on? >> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-668F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG >> >> >> >> You might have to give some additional dimensions although the IH guys >> can look it up on the parts listing and tell you. Its for an engine, >> could be the 4, 6, 8, 10 etc horizontals or if it?s a small pump for the >> 2 ? Famous. >> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-676F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-677F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-674F.JPG >> >> Luke Tonneberger >> Rockford, Michigan >> USA _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Jun 18 09:23:35 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:23:35 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Recognize any of these names? In-Reply-To: <4C1B90F5.7060907@windstream.net> References: <4C1B90F5.7060907@windstream.net> Message-ID: <766F12E2-AAA3-4FB5-9315-615EAD3BB581@rustyiron.com> On Jun 18, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Michael Tucker wrote: > Howdy all, > > I was doing a quick Google search for release agents for JB Weld and I > ran across this page > >. > There are a lot of familiar names in that discussion from 1996! That scurvy pirate Paul is gonna have to start paying us royalties. From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Jun 18 09:32:01 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:32:01 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Recognize any of these names? In-Reply-To: <4C1B90F5.7060907@windstream.net> References: <4C1B90F5.7060907@windstream.net> Message-ID: <28E8FF3D-B66E-4488-843F-E2F99A998C69@rustyiron.com> On Jun 18, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Michael Tucker wrote: > > I was doing a quick Google search for release agents for JB Weld If ya wanna talk about release agents, I have ideas along those lines. Call after 10:00... uh, 13:00. From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Jun 18 09:40:18 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:40:18 +0200 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100618183705.025bf440@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 18/06/2010, you wrote: >From: "Elden" >Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help >Tom: > >I just had a thought. If you have a tractor that has rear >wheels big enough, just fill the tank with the solvent of >your choice and a handful of nuts and washers then duck tape >the tank to one of the tractor wheels. > >After you mow the north forty, you should have a pretty good >idea if it will work. > >By the way, depending on what mechanical shape your tractor >is in, you may or may not be able to tell the difference >between the sound of the junk rattling around inside the >tank and the sound of the tractor. :-) > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand Hi Elden McGyver, I've gotta take my hat off to you - you really come up with some original (and workable) ideas. If you lived here you would have to be a farmer :-) Keep well, Jerry From edurand at mchsi.com Fri Jun 18 14:54:15 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 17:54:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100618183705.025bf440@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: >From you, I consider that a supreme compliment! Thanks! BTW, your plate with Homebrew Engine serial number 3 is now mounted on the McVickerish engine. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 12:40 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help At 06:00 PM 18/06/2010, you wrote: >From: "Elden" >Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help >Tom: > >I just had a thought. If you have a tractor that has rear >wheels big enough, just fill the tank with the solvent of >your choice and a handful of nuts and washers then duck tape >the tank to one of the tractor wheels. > >After you mow the north forty, you should have a pretty good >idea if it will work. > >By the way, depending on what mechanical shape your tractor >is in, you may or may not be able to tell the difference >between the sound of the junk rattling around inside the >tank and the sound of the tractor. :-) > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand Hi Elden McGyver, I've gotta take my hat off to you - you really come up with some original (and workable) ideas. If you lived here you would have to be a farmer :-) Keep well, Jerry From mathjr at optusnet.com.au Fri Jun 18 16:39:47 2010 From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au (John Mathieson) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:39:47 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT References: Message-ID: <508AFADE3A9D44ADAC95C90A3828EBB9@lightning> Great to hear Cam. Our club here seems to be dying. We have a majority of tractor folk and stationary engines have taken a real back seat. Luckily the Bombala club is only an hour away . John Mathieson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cam Grundy" To: "SEL" Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:25 PM Subject: [SEL] New Club OT > Hi, one for the Aussies. Well we finally got our new club up and running > which is the Central Coast Machinery Club inc it all happened on Wed > night, > there was a great turn out ( 42 signed the book ) and we finished up with > 28 > members and more to come, So now we will have to start setting a show or > two. More to come Later. > Cam. > > > Cam and Edwina Grundy > Kariong > NSW 2250 > AUS > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date: 06/11/10 18:35:00 -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date: 06/11/10 18:35:00 From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Fri Jun 18 16:55:41 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:55:41 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT References: <508AFADE3A9D44ADAC95C90A3828EBB9@lightning> Message-ID: <4DCAEE5583514722B703FD2840564C10@regpc> That appears the way the HVVMC has gone too. A lot of the earlier engine members are no longer bothering. So it goes. Apathy and politics happens in all organisations. Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Mathieson" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] New Club OT > Great to hear Cam. Our club here seems to be dying. We have a majority of > tractor folk and stationary engines have taken a real back seat. Luckily > the > Bombala club is only an hour away . John Mathieson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cam Grundy" > To: "SEL" > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:25 PM > Subject: [SEL] New Club OT > > >> Hi, one for the Aussies. Well we finally got our new club up and running >> which is the Central Coast Machinery Club inc it all happened on Wed >> night, >> there was a great turn out ( 42 signed the book ) and we finished up with >> 28 >> members and more to come, So now we will have to start setting a show or >> two. More to come Later. >> Cam. >> >> >> Cam and Edwina Grundy >> Kariong >> NSW 2250 >> AUS >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date: 06/11/10 > 18:35:00 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date: 06/11/10 18:35:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lfevans at pacbell.net Fri Jun 18 17:10:51 2010 From: lfevans at pacbell.net (Larry Evans) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 17:10:51 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Mt. Wilson Fairbanks Morse on TV - maybe Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20100618170903.039a3c90@pop.att.yahoo.com> Hi...... In the middle of April this year Huell Howser spent a day at the Mt. Wilson Observatory filming a one hour special for his "California's Gold" TV series. It will air on Public Television here in California according to the following schedule: KCET, Los Angeles Sunday, June 20 at 7 pm & Saturday, June 26 at 7 pm KVIE, Sacramento Thursday, July 1 at 8 pm KVPT, Fresno Thursday, July 1 at 8 pm & Sunday, July 18 at 7 pm KVCR, San Bernadino Thursday, July 1 at 8 pm Even though most of the program will concentrate on the history of the big telescopes he did spend about half an hour filming the line shaft machine shop and my brother and I running the 1911 50 hp Fairbanks Morse type RE. Hopefully some of that footage made it past the editing process and will be part of the program. Larry Larry Evans MailTo:LFEVANS at pacbell.net http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Jun 18 20:10:16 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 20:10:16 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT In-Reply-To: <4DCAEE5583514722B703FD2840564C10@regpc> References: <508AFADE3A9D44ADAC95C90A3828EBB9@lightning> <4DCAEE5583514722B703FD2840564C10@regpc> Message-ID: >> Great to hear Cam. Our club here seems to be dying. We have a >> majority of >> tractor folk and stationary engines have taken a real back seat. >> Luckily >> the Bombala club is only an hour away . John Mathieson Hi, John. Read the papers and keep an eye peeled for schools that are putting on carnivals, communities that are hosting heritage fairs, or car clubs that are doing charity fundraisers. Call the organizers, tell them about your historical and educational displays, and tell them you'd like to participate. Just be an eccentric guy bringing an engine to an event, perhaps with a couple of your mates, and forgo the formalities that accompany the activities clubs and organizations. Be a freelancer... a rogue... a renegade... a free spirit. All it takes to show an engine is the engine, a can of fuel, a squirt of oil, and a desire to be the center of attention. If none of the above are possible, hunt down an administrator from your local school and make them an offer. Over here, our schools are squeezed for cash, and welcome free additions to their curriculum. I'll bet you could do a song and dance that would keep the kids interested for 15-30 minutes. Multiply that by several classrooms full of kids, and you then have a captive audience for the better part of a morning or afternoon. Good luck. Rob From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Jun 18 20:15:50 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 20:15:50 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Mt. Wilson Fairbanks Morse on TV - maybe In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20100618170903.039a3c90@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20100618170903.039a3c90@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <944FBFC6-D919-4F8F-A2E2-DDD029CC1FA4@rustyiron.com> Thanks, Larry. It's now set to record. Incidentally, for us it's 6/20, 7 p.m., channel 28, KCET. On Jun 18, 2010, at 5:10 PM, Larry Evans wrote: > Hi...... > > In the middle of April this year Huell Howser spent a day at the Mt. > Wilson > Observatory filming a one hour special for his "California's Gold" TV > series. It will air on Public Television here in California > according to > the following schedule: > > KCET, Los Angeles > Sunday, June 20 at 7 pm & Saturday, June 26 at 7 pm KVIE, Sacramento > Thursday, July 1 at 8 pm KVPT, Fresno > Thursday, July 1 at 8 pm & Sunday, July 18 at 7 pm KVCR, San Bernadino > Thursday, July 1 at 8 pm > > Even though most of the program will concentrate on the history of > the big > telescopes he did spend about half an hour filming the line shaft > machine > shop and my brother and I running the 1911 50 hp Fairbanks Morse type > RE. Hopefully some of that footage made it past the editing process > and > will be part of the program. > > Larry > > Larry Evans > MailTo:LFEVANS at pacbell.net > http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ > From mathjr at optusnet.com.au Sat Jun 19 01:59:32 2010 From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au (John Mathieson) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 18:59:32 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT References: <508AFADE3A9D44ADAC95C90A3828EBB9@lightning><4DCAEE5583514722B703FD2840564C10@regpc> Message-ID: <48889801930D4BB18828B57BC3AB69E0@lightning> Hi Rob, thanks for the encouragement. You are right in what you say. I certainly will fly the flag high for the stationary engine folk. Cheers John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] New Club OT >>> Great to hear Cam. Our club here seems to be dying. We have a >>> majority of >>> tractor folk and stationary engines have taken a real back seat. >>> Luckily >>> the Bombala club is only an hour away . John Mathieson > > Hi, John. > Read the papers and keep an eye peeled for schools that are putting on > carnivals, communities that are hosting heritage fairs, or car clubs > that are doing charity fundraisers. Call the organizers, tell them > about your historical and educational displays, and tell them you'd > like to participate. > > Just be an eccentric guy bringing an engine to an event, perhaps with > a couple of your mates, and forgo the formalities that accompany the > activities clubs and organizations. Be a freelancer... a rogue... a > renegade... a free spirit. All it takes to show an engine is the > engine, a can of fuel, a squirt of oil, and a desire to be the center > of attention. > > If none of the above are possible, hunt down an administrator from > your local school and make them an offer. Over here, our schools are > squeezed for cash, and welcome free additions to their curriculum. > I'll bet you could do a song and dance that would keep the kids > interested for 15-30 minutes. Multiply that by several classrooms full > of kids, and you then have a captive audience for the better part of a > morning or afternoon. > > Good luck. > Rob > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date: 06/11/10 18:35:00 -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date: 06/11/10 18:35:00 From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Sat Jun 19 02:49:32 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:49:32 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT In-Reply-To: <508AFADE3A9D44ADAC95C90A3828EBB9@lightning> Message-ID: Most clubs seem to wax and wane. Some recover others do not. Some really good clubs have faded away over the years and others have almost gone and then made a remarkable recovery. A lot of engine rallies go through the same thing. There is always politics in a club and sadly people often forget it is a hobby. We are lucky that (at the moment) our club has enthusiastic members on both the tractor and engine sides and all can see that the club needs the engines, tractors, cars, trucks etc. to survive & thrive. If things change we have sufficient numbers of engine guys around here to form our own club but I cannot see that being needed for a long time. I can rarely get to club meetings (as it can almost be guaranteed that I will have to work on meeting nights) but I try and help out with our club when I can. Patrick On 19/6/10 9:39 AM, "John Mathieson" wrote: > Great to hear Cam. Our club here seems to be dying. We have a majority of > tractor folk and stationary engines have taken a real back seat. Luckily the > Bombala club is only an hour away . John Mathieson From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Jun 19 09:17:23 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:17:23 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I though that's what it was Luke and that's why I suggest it might be a Mogul. TT -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Luke Tonneberger Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 11:31 AM To: Engine List Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification The other fuel pump I have here: http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG It looks like a mirror image to the one I found on a Mogul side shaft here, if you go to 30 seconds in it shows a good view of the fuel pump: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8DQIEAwdxw Does someone have a parts book for IH that they could check the casting numbers? Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ---------------------------------------- > From: flywheelin at hotmail.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:49:53 +0000 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification > > > Hi Tommy, > > I didn't see an IH logo on the first item below. The size of the second one is quite substantial so it must be off of a larger engine. I'll have to do some searching online to see if I can find something..... > > Luke Tonneberger > Rockford, Michigan > USA > > > ---------------------------------------- >> From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:00 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help With Parts Identification >> >> Luke, >> Not sure but could this possibly be off of a Mogul? Some of the >> IH guys will know for sure. >> >> Looks like a fuel pump, what engine would it go on? >> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-666F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-668F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-670F.JPG >> >> >> >> You might have to give some additional dimensions although the IH guys >> can look it up on the parts listing and tell you. Its for an engine, >> could be the 4, 6, 8, 10 etc horizontals or if it?s a small pump for the >> 2 ? Famous. >> >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-676F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-677F.JPG >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/temp/MVC-674F.JPG >> >> Luke Tonneberger >> Rockford, Michigan >> USA _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=P ID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Sat Jun 19 10:13:58 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:13:58 +0200 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help/now Tractor back wheel tumbler. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100619184210.02d24d28@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 19/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 4 >Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 17:54:15 -0400 >From: "Elden" >Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Jerry: > > >From you, I consider that a supreme compliment! Thanks! > >BTW, your plate with Homebrew Engine serial number 3 is now >mounted on the McVickerish engine. > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand Hi Elden, Lest anyone thought I was joking, today I was cutting firewood and lugging it on the carrier I built for my Massey Fergusson 35. I actually examined the back hub and by taking off only 2 of the 8 nuts and fixing a "universal mounting bracket" across them (then replacing the nuts)(or I could fit longer wheel studs and have more fixing points) I could have a tumbler with infinite possibilities . With the type of light work I do with my tractor (no ploughing or really heavy traction work) this would work perfectly. I've often thought of building a tumbler for gemstones and suchlike. This could do the trick - even if I have to leave it attached for a few months (I don't use the tractor often) - but hey, who's in a hurry? Nice to hear about the McVickerish, thanks, that means you only have one plate left in stock. I look forward to your next order :-) Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From edurand at mchsi.com Sat Jun 19 11:47:00 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 14:47:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help/now Tractor back wheel tumbler. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100619184210.02d24d28@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: It may be sooner rather than later. I got discombobulated while stamping the plate and messed one of them up by putting a "3" in the "bore" box (Grrrrrr!). It's actually 2.5 so I now have a plate that can only be used for an engine that has a bore larger than I will most likely ever build. All of which means that I now have zero plates. I'll let you know in advance of when I'll need more. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 1:14 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help/now Tractor back wheel tumbler. .....................snip................................. Nice to hear about the McVickerish, thanks, that means you only have one plate left in stock. I look forward to your next order :-) Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: Hi all, I'm, once again, envious of you Northern Hemisphere members. It's damn cold here (but you guys just had a very cold winter so I should not complain). The Aussie and NZ members are in the same boat as I am. Although we do not have the snow and ice storms that some of you Yanks have it still gets darn cold for us (considering that my signature states that I'm from "Sunny South Africa" !!). Fortunately, our days are quite warm (if you can find a sheltered spot in the sun) but once the sun starts setting it's hell (without the heat!). Earlier this week it went down to -10.3 degrees overnight here (that's centigrade = approx. 13.5 degrees farenheit). Combined with an ice cold wind (wind chill factor) it was actually much colder. I imagine you guys in the north experience that all the time but it's cold for us. The water drain pipe on my airline burst (because of my stupidity - I'd forgotten to drain it and leave the tap open). Did anyone see the pics of a soccer team (it may have been the French but I'm not sure) in Bloemfontein (remember, it's the Soccer World Cup going on here). The reserve players were sitting huddled up in blankets. I've got 2 engines standing outdoors without anti freeze but fortunately I did remember to drain the water off. I hope they survive. My office is very cold but this year I built a fireplace into it and now it's quite pleasant. I spent today cutting firewood and working with a chainsaw does keep one a bit warmer. I've now got a pretty fair sized wood pile outside. I think that I should move a bed in here - it would sure save me the agony of walking to my house (only about 25 metres away) but I also have to carry the cat !! :-) Anyway, to anyone who has read this far, thanks and apologies for yet another "Off Topic" post. Good night (from a freezing South African) Jerry. From WurliTzerPgh at aol.com Sat Jun 19 15:38:08 2010 From: WurliTzerPgh at aol.com (WurliTzerPgh at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 18:38:08 EDT Subject: [SEL] Ignitor Question Message-ID: <9c427.7e05be36.394ea0d0@aol.com> Having just returned from a great day at Coolspring, I have a renewed interest in completing the restoration of my engines. One is a Novo and the other has a Reeves Pulley nameplate on it. Although it will run, the ignitor on the Reeves needs some attention and a person I met at Coolspring suggested that "Mark from Mark's Magnetos might be able to help." Does anybody on the list have information I can use to contact him? Jay Smith, Pittsburgh From mathjr at optusnet.com.au Sat Jun 19 15:45:15 2010 From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au (John Mathieson) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:45:15 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT References: Message-ID: <1B911D8695F34022988E72755454A511@lightning> Your right Patrick about there being a place for tractors as well as engines. It seems to me that most of the engines that I see at rallies date from aprox. 1910- 1940. The tractors that I see seem to date from about 1940 - 1980. I guess that is why I can't get wrapped up in them. The tractor folk in our club enjoy a lot of tractor treks, travelling up to 100 km per day. That must be great fun. Some tractor owners in our club also have engines but we are seeing less and less of them. Cheers John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Livingstone" To: "ATIS" Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] New Club OT > Most clubs seem to wax and wane. Some recover others do not. Some really > good clubs have faded away over the years and others have almost gone and > then made a remarkable recovery. A lot of engine rallies go through the > same > thing. > There is always politics in a club and sadly people often forget it is a > hobby. > We are lucky that (at the moment) our club has enthusiastic members on > both > the tractor and engine sides and all can see that the club needs the > engines, tractors, cars, trucks etc. to survive & thrive. If things change > we have sufficient numbers of engine guys around here to form our own club > but I cannot see that being needed for a long time. > I can rarely get to club meetings (as it can almost be guaranteed that I > will have to work on meeting nights) but I try and help out with our club > when I can. > Patrick > > > On 19/6/10 9:39 AM, "John Mathieson" wrote: > >> Great to hear Cam. Our club here seems to be dying. We have a majority of >> tractor folk and stationary engines have taken a real back seat. Luckily >> the >> Bombala club is only an hour away . John Mathieson > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date: 06/11/10 18:35:00 -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date: 06/11/10 18:35:00 From Germoamer at aol.com Sat Jun 19 16:17:52 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:17:52 EDT Subject: [SEL] Ignitor Question Message-ID: <9e949.7801bd8b.394eaa20@aol.com> There are a number of good magneto/ignitor rebuilders. Two that I have used are the following: Marks Magneto 321 McDonald Road Colchester, Ct 06451 860-537-0376 Lightening Magneto Mitch Malcolm 45685 Co. Road 54 Ottertail, Mn 56571 218-367-2819 _mitchmalcolm at hotmail.com Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com _ (mailto:mitchmalcolm at hotmail.com) From marinesurveys at msn.com Sat Jun 19 16:20:39 2010 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:20:39 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Ignitor Question In-Reply-To: <9c427.7e05be36.394ea0d0@aol.com> References: <9c427.7e05be36.394ea0d0@aol.com> Message-ID: Jay; try this, Mark's number is 1-860-537-0376 He is in Colchester, CT. Thats from a post on Smoak stack Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: WurliTzerPgh at aol.com > Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 18:38:08 -0400 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Ignitor Question > > Having just returned from a great day at Coolspring, I have a renewed > interest in completing the restoration of my engines. One is a Novo and the > other has a Reeves Pulley nameplate on it. Although it will run, the ignitor > on the Reeves needs some attention and a person I met at Coolspring > suggested that "Mark from Mark's Magnetos might be able to help." Does anybody > on the list have information I can use to contact him? > Jay Smith, Pittsburgh > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From gandr at slingshot.co.nz Sat Jun 19 17:02:31 2010 From: gandr at slingshot.co.nz (Graham and Ros) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:02:31 +1200 Subject: [SEL] gas tank help References: <2f237.7d4777aa.394bf1a9@aol.com> Message-ID: <512BB14449104461A764F5C024019B60@hagrid> you could shake it around with some small sharp edged rocks in it to loosen up the crud or maybe leave the crud in there if it is hard , then use the tank seal and slosh that around to seal it in. Of course you know what will happen if you clean it out all nice and shiney, it will leak. Cheers Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 9:46 AM Subject: [SEL] gas tank help > My kerosene tank under the Famous engine has 100 years of gunk in it. > Probably a good 3/16 inch layer on the bottom side. The only access is > thru a > 1 1/2 inch pipe flange adapter on one side at one end. The tank is 9 > tall > x 13 wide x 40 long. About 1/3 from each end is a pipe going from top to > bottom and is where the mounting bolts go thru the tank to hold in place. > So, putting a chain in it and sloshing around does not work due to the > thru > pipes getting in the way. I can put a long scraper thru the pipe flange > on the end and scrape lots of nice gunk! I can only scrape from one side > to > the other and for a distance down length of a few inches. The gunk is > pretty dense and hard from all the years. > > What I am thinking about doing is to cut a hole on the top side in the > middle about 3x3 to access the tank. I believe with this I can scrape the > majority of the tank bottom and up the sides an inch or so. After doing > that, > then use gas/etc., and some rocks/nuts//chain, I can then rock it for a > while and get most of the junk scraped out. Having this access hole > would > ensure getting all the cleaning parts out. > > Next make a new cover, JB Weld with pop rivets. Next put in tank sealer > everywhere. > > Anyone ever done this or have a better idea? The gunk in the bottom is > starting to give me running problems. > > Thanks, > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > > From gandr at slingshot.co.nz Sat Jun 19 17:18:02 2010 From: gandr at slingshot.co.nz (Graham and Ros) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:18:02 +1200 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT References: Message-ID: <37F52238D4B1445D80DA471DFD7F1835@hagrid> Hello there Cam, Good on you m8, its good to have local clubs in your local area as your local public gets to know and love the engine displays as much as you do, but that depends on how often you want to show them off. I can't wait for the web site and photo's ):-) Cheers Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cam Grundy" To: "SEL" Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:25 PM Subject: [SEL] New Club OT > Hi, one for the Aussies. Well we finally got our new club up and running > which is the Central Coast Machinery Club inc it all happened on Wed > night, there was a great turn out ( 42 signed the book ) and we finished > up with 28 members and more to come, So now we will have to start setting > a show or two. More to come Later. > Cam. > > > Cam and Edwina Grundy > Kariong > NSW 2250 > AUS > > From edurand at mchsi.com Sat Jun 19 17:50:03 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:50:03 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Again - Envious. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100619214223.02d26868@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Dang, Jerry! It's that pesky global warming stuff again! Maybe you can hire Algore to haul your firewood ....... No, I think he's too important for that. He invented fire, you know. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 4:35 PM To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] O.T. Again - Envious. Hi all, I'm, once again, envious of you Northern Hemisphere members. It's damn cold here ..................snip................. From camaned at iinet.net.au Sat Jun 19 17:56:34 2010 From: camaned at iinet.net.au (Cam Grundy) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 10:56:34 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT In-Reply-To: <37F52238D4B1445D80DA471DFD7F1835@hagrid> References: <37F52238D4B1445D80DA471DFD7F1835@hagrid> Message-ID: Thanx Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham and Ros" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] New Club OT > Hello there Cam, > Good on you m8, its good to have local clubs in > your > local area as your local public gets to know and love the engine displays > as > much as you do, but that depends on how often you want to show them off. > I can't wait for the web site and photo's ):-) > Cheers > Graham > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cam Grundy" > To: "SEL" > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:25 PM > Subject: [SEL] New Club OT > > >> Hi, one for the Aussies. Well we finally got our new club up and running >> which is the Central Coast Machinery Club inc it all happened on Wed >> night, there was a great turn out ( 42 signed the book ) and we finished >> up with 28 members and more to come, So now we will have to start setting >> a show or two. More to come Later. >> Cam. >> >> >> Cam and Edwina Grundy >> Kariong >> NSW 2250 >> AUS >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Jun 19 23:07:48 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (frappi at wcoil.com) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 02:07:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Ignitor Question In-Reply-To: <9c427.7e05be36.394ea0d0@aol.com> References: <9c427.7e05be36.394ea0d0@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi Jay, Call 860-537-0376 during regular business hours. You missed him by one day. They were set up till Friday. They pulled out for home in this AM. Maytag Mark > Having just returned from a great day at Coolspring, I have a renewed > interest in completing the restoration of my engines. One is a Novo and > the > other has a Reeves Pulley nameplate on it. Although it will run, the > ignitor > on the Reeves needs some attention and a person I met at Coolspring > suggested that "Mark from Mark's Magnetos might be able to help." Does > anybody > on the list have information I can use to contact him? > Jay Smith, Pittsburgh > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From camaned at iinet.net.au Sun Jun 20 00:41:18 2010 From: camaned at iinet.net.au (Cam Grundy) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:41:18 +1000 Subject: [SEL] New Club OT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5C134F7EDB6C4E1DB39C17D771C26AB8@CamPC> Hi to all those who congratulated me for our new club, it was Andy Moran that did all of the paper work, I take my hat off to him, he did a brilliant job. Cheers Cam. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cam Grundy" To: "SEL" Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:25 PM. Subject: [SEL] New Club OT > Hi, one for the Aussies. Well we finally got our new club up and running > which is the Central Coast Machinery Club inc it all happened on Wed > night, > there was a great turn out ( 42 signed the book ) and we finished up with > 28 > members and more to come, So now we will have to start setting a show or > two. More to come Later. > Cam. > > > Cam and Edwina Grundy > Kariong > NSW 2250 > AUS > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Germoamer at aol.com Sun Jun 20 05:28:36 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:28:36 EDT Subject: [SEL] gas tank help Message-ID: In a message dated 6/19/2010 8:09:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gandr at slingshot.co.nz writes: Of course you know what will happen if you clean it out all nice and shiney, it will leak. Yep, getting prepared for that with good sealer! Shaking going on now with lacer thinner/bunch of steel nuts. Second application. First one full of gunk. Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From jerrye at databak.co.za Sun Jun 20 10:24:53 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:24:53 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100620192141.029d3768@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 20/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 3 >Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 14:47:00 -0400 >From: "Elden" >Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help/now Tractor back wheel tumbler. > >Jerry: > >It may be sooner rather than later. I got discombobulated >while stamping the plate and messed one of them up by >putting a "3" in the "bore" box (Grrrrrr!). It's actually >2.5 so I now have a plate that can only be used for an >engine that has a bore larger than I will most likely ever >build. > >All of which means that I now have zero plates. I'll let >you know in advance of when I'll need more. > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand Hi Elden, Why not carefully braze the wrong number closed and start over. The brass is "engraving brass" and has some lead in it for lubrication - I don't know if this would be a problem when brazing. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Jun 20 11:55:50 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:55:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100620192141.029d3768@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: Great idea, Jerry but since I'm retired, worthless and bone-idle, that sounds like a lot of work. Maybe I'll just stamp over it! Perfect! :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 1:25 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair At 06:00 PM 20/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 3 >Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 14:47:00 -0400 >From: "Elden" >Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help/now Tractor back wheel tumbler. > >Jerry: > >It may be sooner rather than later. I got discombobulated >while stamping the plate and messed one of them up by >putting a "3" in the "bore" box (Grrrrrr!). It's actually >2.5 so I now have a plate that can only be used for an >engine that has a bore larger than I will most likely ever >build. > >All of which means that I now have zero plates. I'll let >you know in advance of when I'll need more. > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand Hi Elden, Why not carefully braze the wrong number closed and start over. The brass is "engraving brass" and has some lead in it for lubrication - I don't know if this would be a problem when brazing. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Sun Jun 20 12:53:29 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 15:53:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Why not sand off the numbers on a tape measure and print in new ones? If someone says "that's not 3 inches" hand them the tape and tell them to check it out. Dave PS, Having been a bit "short" all my live I've learned to overcome these "little" difficulties! On Jun 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Elden wrote: > Great idea, Jerry but since I'm retired, worthless and > bone-idle, that sounds like a lot of work. Maybe I'll just > stamp over it! Perfect! :-) > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of > Jerry Evans > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 1:25 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair > > > At 06:00 PM 20/06/2010, you wrote: >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 14:47:00 -0400 >> From: "Elden" >> Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help/now Tractor back wheel > tumbler. >> >> Jerry: >> >> It may be sooner rather than later. I got discombobulated >> while stamping the plate and messed one of them up by >> putting a "3" in the "bore" box (Grrrrrr!). It's actually >> 2.5 so I now have a plate that can only be used for an >> engine that has a bore larger than I will most likely ever >> build. >> >> All of which means that I now have zero plates. I'll let >> you know in advance of when I'll need more. >> >> Take care - Elden >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > Hi Elden, > Why not carefully braze the wrong number closed and > start over. > The brass is "engraving brass" and has some lead in it for > lubrication - I > don't know if this would be a problem when brazing. > > > > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Jun 20 13:11:56 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 16:11:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dave: Thanks! Sounds like a solution to me. I might just do that. It takes a guy with a Doctorate to be able to figger that stuff out. :-) Unfortunately (or fortunately, as the case may be), you're still the Evil Dave..... Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 3:53 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass plate repair Why not sand off the numbers on a tape measure and print in new ones? If someone says "that's not 3 inches" hand them the tape and tell them to check it out. Dave PS, Having been a bit "short" all my live I've learned to overcome these "little" difficulties! From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 20 13:50:29 2010 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 15:50:29 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair Message-ID: <437512.58305.qm@smtp116-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Your 2.5 inch bore is 6.35 cm, can you just go metric on your tag? Joe Sent from my U.S. Cellular? Windows? phone. -----Original Message----- From: David Rotigel Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:53 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass plate repair Why not sand off the numbers on a tape measure and print in new ones? If someone says "that's not 3 inches" hand them the tape and tell them to check it out. Dave PS, Having been a bit "short" all my live I've learned to overcome these "little" difficulties! On Jun 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Elden wrote: > Great idea, Jerry but since I'm retired, worthless and > bone-idle, that sounds like a lot of work. Maybe I'll just > stamp over it! Perfect! :-) > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of > Jerry Evans > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 1:25 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair > > > At 06:00 PM 20/06/2010, you wrote: >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 14:47:00 -0400 >> From: "Elden" >> Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help/now Tractor back wheel > tumbler. >> >> Jerry: >> >> It may be sooner rather than later. I got discombobulated >> while stamping the plate and messed one of them up by >> putting a "3" in the "bore" box (Grrrrrr!). It's actually >> 2.5 so I now have a plate that can only be used for an >> engine that has a bore larger than I will most likely ever >> build. >> >> All of which means that I now have zero plates. I'll let >> you know in advance of when I'll need more. >> >> Take care - Elden >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > Hi Elden, > Why not carefully braze the wrong number closed and > start over. > The brass is "engraving brass" and has some lead in it for > lubrication - I > don't know if this would be a problem when brazing. > > > > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL maili [The entire original message is not included] From rotigel at me.com Sun Jun 20 14:54:58 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:54:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85D9D858-6193-495E-AB6E-894A45005611@me.com> All my life I've collected a goodly amount of money for TOTAL BULL SHIT. Why should I stop now? Dave On Jun 20, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Elden wrote: > Dave: > > Thanks! Sounds like a solution to me. I might just do > that. > > It takes a guy with a Doctorate to be able to figger that > stuff out. :-) > > Unfortunately (or fortunately, as the case may be), you're > still the Evil Dave..... > > Take care - Elden From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Jun 20 15:08:32 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:08:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair In-Reply-To: <437512.58305.qm@smtp116-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Joe: Since there is a "3" now in the bore blank, I suppose I could make it 3 cm or 1.181102". That's more in my range of building. I'll simply save the tag until I decide to design an engine with a 3 cm bore. Thank you for your helpful suggestion. :-) Wow! Hoyt-Clagwell & Company will be right with the times ...... METRIC! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Joe Prindle Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 4:50 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass plate repair Your 2.5 inch bore is 6.35 cm, can you just go metric on your tag? Joe Sent from my U.S. Cellular? Windows? phone. -----Original Message----- From: David Rotigel Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:53 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass plate repair Why not sand off the numbers on a tape measure and print in new ones? If someone says "that's not 3 inches" hand them the tape and tell them to check it out. Dave PS, Having been a bit "short" all my live I've learned to overcome these "little" difficulties! On Jun 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Elden wrote: > Great idea, Jerry but since I'm retired, worthless and > bone-idle, that sounds like a lot of work. Maybe I'll just > stamp over it! Perfect! :-) > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of > Jerry Evans > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 1:25 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair > > > At 06:00 PM 20/06/2010, you wrote: >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 14:47:00 -0400 >> From: "Elden" >> Subject: Re: [SEL] gas tank help/now Tractor back wheel > tumbler. >> >> Jerry: >> >> It may be sooner rather than later. I got discombobulated >> while stamping the plate and messed one of them up by >> putting a "3" in the "bore" box (Grrrrrr!). It's actually >> 2.5 so I now have a plate that can only be used for an >> engine that has a bore larger than I will most likely ever >> build. From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Jun 20 16:53:27 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:53:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair In-Reply-To: <85D9D858-6193-495E-AB6E-894A45005611@me.com> Message-ID: Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 5:55 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass plate repair All my life I've collected a goodly amount of money for TOTAL BULL SHIT. Why should I stop now? Dave On Jun 20, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Elden wrote: > Dave: > > Thanks! Sounds like a solution to me. I might just do > that. > > It takes a guy with a Doctorate to be able to figger that > stuff out. :-) > > Unfortunately (or fortunately, as the case may be), you're > still the Evil Dave..... > > Take care - Elden _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Jun 20 16:53:35 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:53:35 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair In-Reply-To: <85D9D858-6193-495E-AB6E-894A45005611@me.com> Message-ID: Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 5:55 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass plate repair All my life I've collected a goodly amount of money for TOTAL BULL SHIT. Why should I stop now? Dave On Jun 20, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Elden wrote: > Dave: > > Thanks! Sounds like a solution to me. I might just do > that. > > It takes a guy with a Doctorate to be able to figger that > stuff out. :-) > > Unfortunately (or fortunately, as the case may be), you're > still the Evil Dave..... > > Take care - Elden _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Jun 20 16:54:43 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:54:43 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass plate repair In-Reply-To: <85D9D858-6193-495E-AB6E-894A45005611@me.com> Message-ID: Gee! Finally, I meet a PhD who knows the score! :-) Keep up the good work, Doc. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 5:55 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass plate repair All my life I've collected a goodly amount of money for TOTAL BULL SHIT. Why should I stop now? From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jun 20 19:35:32 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:35:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100615211149.00cf2d00@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: <001401cb10ea$6c16db20$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Only one, canvas and inherited from my dad! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Evans" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. > At 06:00 PM 15/06/2010, you wrote: >>Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:52:29 -0400 >>From: "Mike Royster" >>Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T. Aerial photo of my home. >> >>Jerry, >> >> You must be related to us after all, I have both blue and gray tarps! >>Nice place you have there "cuzin." >> >>Mike (the fewer tarps than last year) Royster > > > Howdy Mike, > Thanks, but do you have a red tarp? :-) > keep well, > Jerry > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bboyce at swat.coop Mon Jun 21 10:47:06 2010 From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:47:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover Message-ID: <9278C01249AA402BA8D7359E14AC40E4@billPC> here are a couple of pics of the stover,,, piston being installed bill boyce lost prairie, arkansas http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416054367183 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/photo.php?pid=112875&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416191033836 From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Mon Jun 21 11:14:45 2010 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:14:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: <9278C01249AA402BA8D7359E14AC40E4@billPC> References: <9278C01249AA402BA8D7359E14AC40E4@billPC> Message-ID: Hi Bill, I'm going after a big Stover this weekend in the wild and I will probably be asking you some questions about yours. The one I'm going after has 54 or 55" flywheels that are 4" wide and it has a 9" bore. How does that compare to yours? Thanks Tom Winland Columbus, Ohio gasenginetom.com > From: bboyce at swat.coop > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:47:06 -0500 > Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover > > here are a couple of pics of the stover,,, piston being installed > bill boyce > lost prairie, arkansas > http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416054367183 > > http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/photo.php?pid=112875&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416191033836 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From rotigel at me.com Mon Jun 21 11:57:09 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:57:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: References: <9278C01249AA402BA8D7359E14AC40E4@billPC> Message-ID: Hi Bill, Be VERY careful of your wording in answering Tom's question! Dave On Jun 21, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Tom Winland wrote: > > Hi Bill, > > > > I'm going after a big Stover this weekend in the wild and I will > probably be asking you some questions about yours. The one I'm > going after has 54 or 55" flywheels that are 4" wide and it has a 9" > bore. How does that compare to yours? > > > > Thanks > Tom Winland > > Columbus, Ohio > > gasenginetom.com > >> From: bboyce at swat.coop >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:47:06 -0500 >> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover >> >> here are a couple of pics of the stover,,, piston being installed >> bill boyce >> lost prairie, arkansas >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/ >> photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416054367183 >> >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/ >> photo.php?pid=112875&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416191033836 >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your > inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Mon Jun 21 12:06:21 2010 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:06:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: References: <9278C01249AA402BA8D7359E14AC40E4@billPC>, , Message-ID: To clarify Bill, I'm not sure what HP mine is and trying to figure out what HP it is because there isn't a tag on it. :) I will post some pictures once it's out of the woods :) lol Thanks Tom > From: rotigel at me.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:57:09 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover > > Hi Bill, Be VERY careful of your wording in answering Tom's question! > Dave > > On Jun 21, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Tom Winland wrote: > > > > > Hi Bill, > > > > > > > > I'm going after a big Stover this weekend in the wild and I will > > probably be asking you some questions about yours. The one I'm > > going after has 54 or 55" flywheels that are 4" wide and it has a 9" > > bore. How does that compare to yours? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > Tom Winland > > > > Columbus, Ohio > > > > gasenginetom.com > > > >> From: bboyce at swat.coop > >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:47:06 -0500 > >> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover > >> > >> here are a couple of pics of the stover,,, piston being installed > >> bill boyce > >> lost prairie, arkansas > >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/ > >> photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416054367183 > >> > >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/ > >> photo.php?pid=112875&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416191033836 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your > > inbox. > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From gastzt at aol.com Mon Jun 21 13:41:38 2010 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 16:41:38 EDT Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover Message-ID: <133a3.664e4654.39512882@aol.com> OH MY GOSH! What a bore! S Zettner Old Stovers From marinesurveys at msn.com Mon Jun 21 14:30:28 2010 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:30:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: References: <9278C01249AA402BA8D7359E14AC40E4@billPC>, , Message-ID: Pix would be a lot better, some ppl dont use facebook Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: rotigel at me.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:57:09 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover > > Hi Bill, Be VERY careful of your wording in answering Tom's question! > Dave > > On Jun 21, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Tom Winland wrote: > > > > > Hi Bill, > > > > > > > > I'm going after a big Stover this weekend in the wild and I will > > probably be asking you some questions about yours. The one I'm > > going after has 54 or 55" flywheels that are 4" wide and it has a 9" > > bore. How does that compare to yours? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > Tom Winland > > > > Columbus, Ohio > > > > gasenginetom.com > > > >> From: bboyce at swat.coop > >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:47:06 -0500 > >> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover > >> > >> here are a couple of pics of the stover,,, piston being installed > >> bill boyce > >> lost prairie, arkansas > >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/ > >> photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416054367183 > >> > >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/ > >> photo.php?pid=112875&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416191033836 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your > > inbox. > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bboyce at swat.coop Mon Jun 21 14:42:53 2010 From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 16:42:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: References: <9278C01249AA402BA8D7359E14AC40E4@billPC>, , Message-ID: <8F3484188BA047E4B69BD1FDE3C98799@billPC> tom,, take pictures of the recovery and not just after you get it home,, those are always fun to see,,,,,, mine was picked up at a shop, so i had no exciting recovery pictures,,,,,,mine is without a tag also, just had to take the guy's word that it's a 22 hp model,,,,,, piston went in easy, bore is excellent and rings are all good,,, main brgs had been repoured and a new con ron brass brg had been built,, so lots of the hard work is already over with,,,, going to re-surface the head and build a few other parts,, bill boyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Winland" To: "SEL list" Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover > > To clarify Bill, I'm not sure what HP mine is and trying to figure out > what HP it is because there isn't a tag on it. :) > > > > I will post some pictures once it's out of the woods :) lol > > > > Thanks > Tom > >> From: rotigel at me.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:57:09 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover >> >> Hi Bill, Be VERY careful of your wording in answering Tom's question! >> Dave >> >> On Jun 21, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Tom Winland wrote: >> >> > >> > Hi Bill, >> > >> > >> > >> > I'm going after a big Stover this weekend in the wild and I will >> > probably be asking you some questions about yours. The one I'm >> > going after has 54 or 55" flywheels that are 4" wide and it has a 9" >> > bore. How does that compare to yours? >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks >> > Tom Winland >> > >> > Columbus, Ohio >> > >> > gasenginetom.com >> > >> >> From: bboyce at swat.coop >> >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:47:06 -0500 >> >> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover >> >> >> >> here are a couple of pics of the stover,,, piston being installed >> >> bill boyce >> >> lost prairie, arkansas >> >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/ >> >> photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416054367183 >> >> >> >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/ >> >> photo.php?pid=112875&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416191033836 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SEL mailing list >> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your >> > inbox. >> > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SEL mailing list >> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Mon Jun 21 15:33:21 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:33:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: References: <9278C01249AA402BA8D7359E14AC40E4@billPC> Message-ID: What is a facebook? Is that the place where you need to tell all your friends every time you use the toilet? Dave PS, Also, What's a ppl? On Jun 21, 2010, at 5:30 PM, frank skinner wrote: > > Pix would be a lot better, some ppl dont use facebook > > Franklin S. Skinner > Marine Surveyor & Consultant > 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 > 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West > PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > > > > >> From: rotigel at me.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:57:09 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover >> >> Hi Bill, Be VERY careful of your wording in answering Tom's question! >> Dave >> >> On Jun 21, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Tom Winland wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Bill, >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm going after a big Stover this weekend in the wild and I will >>> probably be asking you some questions about yours. The one I'm >>> going after has 54 or 55" flywheels that are 4" wide and it has a 9" >>> bore. How does that compare to yours? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> Tom Winland >>> >>> Columbus, Ohio >>> >>> gasenginetom.com >>> >>>> From: bboyce at swat.coop >>>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:47:06 -0500 >>>> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover >>>> >>>> here are a couple of pics of the stover,,, piston being installed >>>> bill boyce >>>> lost prairie, arkansas >>>> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/ >>>> photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416054367183 >>>> >>>> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/ >>>> photo.php?pid=112875&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416191033836 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your >>> inbox. >>> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Mon Jun 21 15:56:16 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 08:56:16 +1000 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Tom, According to the catalogue 54" flywheels would be a 18hp engine. Patrick On 22/6/10 4:14 AM, "Tom Winland" wrote: > > Hi Bill, > > > > I'm going after a big Stover this weekend in the wild and I will probably be > asking you some questions about yours. The one I'm going after has 54 or 55" > flywheels that are 4" wide and it has a 9" bore. How does that compare to > yours? > > > > Thanks > Tom Winland > > Columbus, Ohio > > gasenginetom.com Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From rotigel at me.com Mon Jun 21 17:47:34 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:47:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland ATIS Charity Dinner and Auction Message-ID: <3845FE46-BBD8-451C-AF66-42A20E7ADE9C@me.com> Hi All, Once again it's time to plan for the Annual ATIS Dinner and Charity Auction during the Portland Show in August! Again this year the dinner/ auction will be at the Back 40 Junction in Decatur. (See: http://back40junction.com/default.aspx) The Back 40 is at 1011 North 13th Street (that's Rt. 27) in Decatur, about 25 miles North of the show grounds. It's on the West side of Rt. 27 at the North end of town. As usual the dinner will be at 6:00 p.m. on Thursday, August the 26th, and the charity auction will follow. Although not necessary for attendance, I do wish you would let me know if you plan to attend so that I can give Ellen an approximate number. (Off list would be best. I'm at rotigel at me.com) We, once again, will have the back room to ourselves for the dinner and auction! Please start thinking about what you plan to donate to the auction and start saving your money in order to bid--early and often as well as against yourself when necessary. ATIS has raised a good amount of money for some very worthwhile causes over the years. Let's keep that tradition alive once again this year! Dave at rotigel at me.com PS, If you have already contacted me about the dinner please do so again. I have not kept "numbers" until now. From bboyce at swat.coop Mon Jun 21 20:06:56 2010 From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:06:56 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: References: <9278C01249AA402BA8D7359E14AC40E4@billPC> Message-ID: <67B404404ECA4CB08C1868D89CF69288@billPC> tom, i measured and found the bore to be 9 5/8 inches, flywheel diameter of 59 inches with a face of 4 inches,, stroke is 14 inches.....so maybe someone can confirm the hp,,,wish i knew the weight of it also bill boyce lost prairie, arkansas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Winland" To: "SEL list" Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover > > Hi Bill, > > > > I'm going after a big Stover this weekend in the wild and I will probably > be asking you some questions about yours. The one I'm going after has 54 > or 55" flywheels that are 4" wide and it has a 9" bore. How does that > compare to yours? > > > > Thanks > Tom Winland > > Columbus, Ohio > > gasenginetom.com > >> From: bboyce at swat.coop >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:47:06 -0500 >> Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover >> >> here are a couple of pics of the stover,,, piston being installed >> bill boyce >> lost prairie, arkansas >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416054367183 >> >> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=112874&id=100000963672989#!/photo.php?pid=112875&id=100000963672989&fbid=123416191033836 >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Mon Jun 21 20:18:24 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:18:24 +1000 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: <67B404404ECA4CB08C1868D89CF69288@billPC> Message-ID: Hi Bill, I have the 22hp having 58" flywheels. The shipping weight is shown as 5100lbs. This is from Stover Catalogue No.20. Patrick : > tom, i measured and found the bore to be 9 5/8 inches, flywheel diameter of > 59 inches with a face of 4 inches,, stroke is 14 inches.....so maybe someone > can confirm the hp,,,wish i knew the weight of it also > bill boyce > lost prairie, arkansas > Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From bboyce at swat.coop Mon Jun 21 20:42:05 2010 From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:42:05 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <08D9E15146C94A91977F6CF4D4AB7164@billPC> patrick, what is the bore on your engine ? bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Livingstone" To: "ATIS" Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover > Hi Bill, > I have the 22hp having 58" flywheels. The shipping weight is shown as > 5100lbs. This is from Stover Catalogue No.20. > Patrick > > > : > >> tom, i measured and found the bore to be 9 5/8 inches, flywheel diameter >> of >> 59 inches with a face of 4 inches,, stroke is 14 inches.....so maybe >> someone >> can confirm the hp,,,wish i knew the weight of it also >> bill boyce >> lost prairie, arkansas >> > > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From pcgray at zoominternet.net Tue Jun 22 02:29:21 2010 From: pcgray at zoominternet.net (Paul + Colleen Gray) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 05:29:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed Portland, OR to Portland, IN summer show In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2502AB98-6389-47DC-B080-26082B0C7004@zoominternet.net> All- -Looking for a ride for an engine of about 400 lbs from the Portland, OR area to Portland, IN summer show. I'll be glad to pay the hauling party a generous amount for picking it up and delivering it to Portland, IN show. Might be a good way to defray your trip costs. Was good to see many of you at the Coolspring show this past week- there was a nice selection of engines and some unique iron on display. Let me know if you can/want to help out. All the best- Paul Gray pcgray at zoominternet.net From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Tue Jun 22 01:27:43 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:27:43 +1000 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: <08D9E15146C94A91977F6CF4D4AB7164@billPC> Message-ID: Hi Bill, I only have a DX 6hp & a YB 6hp. I think I have a couple of other catalogues with more info. Have you sent your engine number off to Joe Maurer? He can look it up in the factory records and add it to the Stover register. Patrick On 22/6/10 1:42 PM, "bill boyce" wrote: > patrick, what is the bore on your engine ? > bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick Livingstone" > To: "ATIS" > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:18 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover > > >> Hi Bill, >> I have the 22hp having 58" flywheels. The shipping weight is shown as >> 5100lbs. This is from Stover Catalogue No.20. >> Patrick >> >> >> : >> >>> tom, i measured and found the bore to be 9 5/8 inches, flywheel diameter >>> of >>> 59 inches with a face of 4 inches,, stroke is 14 inches.....so maybe >>> someone >>> can confirm the hp,,,wish i knew the weight of it also >>> bill boyce >>> lost prairie, arkansas >>> >> >> >> >> Patrick M Livingstone >> Leichhardt NSW >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Tue Jun 22 05:45:30 2010 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 08:45:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Thanks Patrick > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 08:56:16 +1000 > From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover > > Hi Tom, > According to the catalogue 54" flywheels would be a 18hp engine. > Patrick > > > On 22/6/10 4:14 AM, "Tom Winland" wrote: > > > > > Hi Bill, > > > > > > > > I'm going after a big Stover this weekend in the wild and I will probably be > > asking you some questions about yours. The one I'm going after has 54 or 55" > > flywheels that are 4" wide and it has a 9" bore. How does that compare to > > yours? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > Tom Winland > > > > Columbus, Ohio > > > > gasenginetom.com > > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From George_Best at adp.com Tue Jun 22 07:01:42 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:01:42 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D898FAE@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Tom, Finally got around last night to checking my 18hp Stover L. The flywheels on mine are just over 4" wide and somewhere between 54" to 55" flywheels. The piston is 8-3/4". If yours has a 9" bore, I would guess it might be a 20hp or 22hp size. I know they made 22hp, but not sure they made a 20hp one. I know the tag is missing from your engine, but if you could get the serial number then Joe could tell you exactly what you have. My engine has the serial number tag, but I also found the serial number stamped on the head. It was stamped about the 1 o'clock position on the side of the head close to the head gasket. Wasn't stamped real clearly, but it did match my serial tag. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From George_Best at adp.com Tue Jun 22 08:24:06 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:24:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 22 hp stover In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D898FAE@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: , <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D898FAE@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D8992A1@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Tom, After reading Patrick's posting on the 22hp Stover, I'm sure that your engine must also be a 18hp like mine. I'm guessing the difference in bore diameter may be due to measuring differences and rounding to nearest inch. Will be interested in seeing pictures of your engine and comparing differences between our two engines. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 7:02 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] 22 hp stover Tom, Finally got around last night to checking my 18hp Stover L. The flywheels on mine are just over 4" wide and somewhere between 54" to 55" flywheels. The piston is 8-3/4". If yours has a 9" bore, I would guess it might be a 20hp or 22hp size. I know they made 22hp, but not sure they made a 20hp one. I know the tag is missing from your engine, but if you could get the serial number then Joe could tell you exactly what you have. My engine has the serial number tag, but I also found the serial number stamped on the head. It was stamped about the 1 o'clock position on the side of the head close to the head gasket. Wasn't stamped real clearly, but it did match my serial tag. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Jun 22 09:12:49 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 12:12:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed Portland, OR to Portland, IN summer show In-Reply-To: <2502AB98-6389-47DC-B080-26082B0C7004@zoominternet.net> References: <2502AB98-6389-47DC-B080-26082B0C7004@zoominternet.net> Message-ID: So Paul, didja score a nice Myrick Junior on the left coast after looking at that one at Coolspring? 8-)) See ya, Arnie On Tue, June 22, 2010 5:29 am, Paul + Colleen Gray wrote: > All- > -Looking for a ride for an engine of about 400 lbs from the Portland, > OR area to Portland, IN summer show. From George_Best at adp.com Tue Jun 22 09:41:13 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:41:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Hauling needed Portland, OR to Portland, IN summer show In-Reply-To: References: <2502AB98-6389-47DC-B080-26082B0C7004@zoominternet.net> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3D8995C6@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Paul, If you just need it stored on the left coast, I live near Portland Oregon and work in Portland. ;-) I'd love to haul it to the Portland show for you, but unfortunately I've used most of my vacation time this year and don't have enough left to do a road trip to Portland IN. I'd love to go to the Portland show again as it's been a few years since I've gone back there. Having to work and use vacation time really sucks some times :-( George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From rdhaskell at juno.com Tue Jun 22 13:19:49 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:19:49 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Spam> New FM at Vista Ca. Message-ID: <20100622.131955.1000.195201@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> Hi all. Just got back from the Steam and Gas Museum at Vista Ca. They got a BIG Fairbanks Morse engine delivered and set today. A donation from Southern California Edison. Provided power on Catalina Island. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/BigFM# Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Refinance Now 4.0% FIXED! $160,000 Mortgage for $633/mo. Free. No Obligation. Get 4 Quotes! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c211b1962f9a521591st02vuc From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Jun 22 14:22:46 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:22:46 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam> New FM at Vista Ca. In-Reply-To: <20100622.131955.1000.195201@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Ron: Now that's just the cutest l'il genset I done ever saw ....... 'Cept at the Paris, KY municipal generating plant. The Paris plant has two of those (or are they inline 8 cylinder??), two 10 cylinder O.P. sets, two of the later super/turbocharged O.P. sets and a smaller O.P. out of a Navy tin can for station use. All of the gensets run and the switchgear is all in place and operational. The Paris plant is kept ready for standby use and it is a feature of the engine show there each year. They have shuttle tours to the plant where they start-up one of the S.P. sets and put it on line then take it off, shut it down and start one of the O.P. sets and put it on line. Nice show. If I ever get back there for the show, I'm gonna take the camcorder and make a record of the runs. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of rdhaskell at juno.com Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:20 PM To: Wapa-members at rustyiron.com; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] Spam> New FM at Vista Ca. Hi all. Just got back from the Steam and Gas Museum at Vista Ca. They got a BIG Fairbanks Morse engine delivered and set today. A donation from Southern California Edison. Provided power on Catalina Island. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/BigFM# Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell From gastzt at aol.com Tue Jun 22 14:25:56 2010 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:25:56 EDT Subject: [SEL] Spam> New FM at Vista Ca. Message-ID: <6c74d.15285578.39528464@aol.com> In a message dated 6/22/2010 3:29:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rdhaskell at juno.com writes: http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/BigFM# Hey RON--- THANKS so much for the GREAT pictures---really GREAT! Stan Zettner, Pleasanton, Texas "Old Stovers" From page at velocitynet.com.au Wed Jun 23 01:33:59 2010 From: page at velocitynet.com.au (Ron Page) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:33:59 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Help required In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004501cb12ae$d439fa50$6c3bfea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> Hi all A friend of mine is in the process of restoring an old chain saw. It is a Whitehead chain saw powered by a Westbend engine of 95cc or 5.8 cubic inches made in 1962. He is wanting any info on this equipment and also what sort of paint to use that will not wash off when in contact with petrol/gas. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks Ron Canberra From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Wed Jun 23 11:43:34 2010 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:43:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] New FM at Vista Ca. Message-ID: Wait 'til you hear that sweetie run, Ron. They are so quiet - well, except for the stack music. If you have any influence in the matter, try to get them to start it up once before the exhaust system is hooked up! This gaggle of engines is in Lathrop, MO, salvaged from the old Pattonsburg, MO powerhouse. The old town of Pattonsburg was abandoned after the floods of '93, and moved to higher ground. Read the story in this GEM article of how the engines came to be where they are. No sweeter music anywhere. http://gasengine.farmcollector.com/gas-engines/Salute-to-a-Dream.aspx Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Wed Jun 23 12:23:14 2010 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:23:14 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New FM at Vista Ca. References: Message-ID: Hi Bruce, I am part of the team that will be getting it running. We have a lot to do before it becomes functional. some of the things are; Remove all of the grout from the leveling screw holes and clean out the threads. Level the engine with respect to the generator, this will take a while as both units total about 50 tons. Grout the engine and the generator mounts. Remake all of the nuts that go through the flange that connect the engine to the generator. These were torched off by the riggers that moved the machine. They also damaged the bolts these nuts go onto. Repairing these will be a big job. Make a new cooling system from scratch as Edison threw away the old one years ago. Plumb this up to air system. The existing air system nay need additional reservoir capacity in addition to what is already there. Probably be some other things that have not surfaced yet. I think it will take at least year of weekends to get the engine running and that may be optomistic. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes jd.kirkes at verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Younger" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:43 AM Subject: [SEL] New FM at Vista Ca. Wait 'til you hear that sweetie run, Ron. They are so quiet - well, except for the stack music. If you have any influence in the matter, try to get them to start it up once before the exhaust system is hooked up! This gaggle of engines is in Lathrop, MO, salvaged from the old Pattonsburg, MO powerhouse. The old town of Pattonsburg was abandoned after the floods of '93, and moved to higher ground. Read the story in this GEM article of how the engines came to be where they are. No sweeter music anywhere. http://gasengine.farmcollector.com/gas-engines/Salute-to-a-Dream.aspx Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From marinesurveys at msn.com Wed Jun 23 12:43:53 2010 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:43:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] New FM at Vista Ca. In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Jim; Those F/M's are easy to work on & run well, that engine probably needs little to make her fire up, I've re-activated them that were laid up 6 to 10 years with very little effort,starting air is 250 PSI btw Qiuncy 325's or 340's are the very best for the job, they will actuall pump close to 600 PSI. Quincy 325's & 340's are the standard of the tugboat industry. Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:23:14 -0700 > Subject: Re: [SEL] New FM at Vista Ca. > > Hi Bruce, > > I am part of the team that will be getting it running. We > have a lot to do before it becomes functional. some of the > things are; > > Remove all of the grout from the leveling screw holes and > clean out the threads. > Level the engine with respect to the generator, this will > take a while as both units total about 50 tons. > Grout the engine and the generator mounts. > Remake all of the nuts that go through the flange that > connect the engine to the generator. These were torched off > by the riggers that moved the machine. They also damaged > the bolts these nuts go onto. Repairing these will be a big > job. > Make a new cooling system from scratch as Edison threw away > the old one years ago. > Plumb this up to air system. The existing air system nay > need additional reservoir capacity in addition to what is > already there. > > Probably be some other things that have not surfaced yet. I > think it will take at least year of weekends to get the > engine running and that may be optomistic. > > Jim > > Jim and Diane Kirkes > jd.kirkes at verizon.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Younger" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:43 AM > Subject: [SEL] New FM at Vista Ca. > > > > Wait 'til you hear that sweetie run, Ron. They are so > quiet - well, except for the stack music. If you have any > influence in the matter, try to get them to start it up once > before the exhaust system is hooked up! > > This gaggle of engines is in Lathrop, MO, salvaged from the > old Pattonsburg, MO powerhouse. The old town of Pattonsburg > was abandoned after the floods of '93, and moved to higher > ground. Read the story in this GEM article of how the > engines came to be where they are. No sweeter music > anywhere. > > http://gasengine.farmcollector.com/gas-engines/Salute-to-a-Dream.aspx > > Bruce Younger > > 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 > > Madison, SD > > sluggo54 at hotmail.com > > > > "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those > that have hunted > armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything > else thereafter." > > E. Hemingway > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail > accounts with Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Jun 23 12:44:20 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:44:20 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New FM at Vista Ca. Message-ID: <20100623.124449.989.195154@mailpop09.vgs.untd.com> Very interesting article Bruce. Thanks Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:43:34 -0500 Bruce Younger writes: > > Wait 'til you hear that sweetie run, Ron. They are so quiet - well, > except for the stack music. If you have any influence in the > matter, try to get them to start it up once before the exhaust > system is hooked up! > > This gaggle of engines is in Lathrop, MO, salvaged from the old > Pattonsburg, MO powerhouse. The old town of Pattonsburg was > abandoned after the floods of '93, and moved to higher ground. Read > the story in this GEM article of how the engines came to be where > they are. No sweeter music anywhere. > > http://gasengine.farmcollector.com/gas-engines/Salute-to-a-Dream.aspx > > Bruce Younger > > 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 > > Madison, SD > > sluggo54 at hotmail.com ____________________________________________________________ TODAY: iPads for $123.74? Alert: iPads are being auctioned on SwipeBids.com for 95% off today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c22645877971143a2st02vuc From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Jun 23 12:49:54 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:49:54 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New FM at Vista Ca. Message-ID: <20100623.125051.989.195168@mailpop09.vgs.untd.com> Thanks for the report Jim. Before you start making nuts and bolts, put out a request on the lists. I have had over 400 hits on my pictures on Harry's page and several replies from web friends. There are some spare nuts out there somewhere. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:23:14 -0700 "Jim Kirkes" writes: > Hi Bruce, > > I am part of the team that will be getting it running. We > have a lot to do before it becomes functional. some of the > things are; > > Remove all of the grout from the leveling screw holes and > clean out the threads. > Level the engine with respect to the generator, this will > take a while as both units total about 50 tons. > Grout the engine and the generator mounts. > Remake all of the nuts that go through the flange that > connect the engine to the generator. These were torched off > by the riggers that moved the machine. They also damaged > the bolts these nuts go onto. Repairing these will be a big > job. > Make a new cooling system from scratch as Edison threw away > the old one years ago. > Plumb this up to air system. The existing air system nay > need additional reservoir capacity in addition to what is > already there. > > Probably be some other things that have not surfaced yet. I > think it will take at least year of weekends to get the > engine running and that may be optomistic. > > Jim > > Jim and Diane Kirkes > jd.kirkes at verizon.net ____________________________________________________________ TODAY: iPads for $123.74? Alert: iPads are being auctioned on SwipeBids.com for 95% off today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c2265c5878b74a31d6st03vuc From pcgray at zoominternet.net Wed Jun 23 14:19:48 2010 From: pcgray at zoominternet.net (Paul + Colleen Gray) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:19:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Engine hauling - it's a go! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fellow Ferrites- George Best graciously agreed to take possession of the engine for me at the Brooks, OR show. Yipeeee!!! No trip to Portland but we'll sort out getting it here over the next few months. Arnie- no it is not a Jr... it is a one-off or low production engine they made in the late teens/early 20's. She needs some work but some of you know I like challenges. All the best- Paul From tchristoff at earthlink.net Wed Jun 23 16:15:03 2010 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Engine hauling - it's a go! Message-ID: <22035780.1277334903242.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Paul, if it can make it's way to KS, I can haul it to Portland. Tim Christoff -----Original Message----- >From: Paul + Colleen Gray >Sent: Jun 23, 2010 5:19 PM >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Subject: [SEL] Engine hauling - it's a go! > >Fellow Ferrites- > >George Best graciously agreed to take possession of the engine for me >at the Brooks, OR show. Yipeeee!!! >No trip to Portland but we'll sort out getting it here over the next >few months. >Arnie- no it is not a Jr... it is a one-off or low production engine >they made in the late teens/early 20's. > >She needs some work but some of you know I like challenges. > >All the best- > >Paul >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From toadhill at aeroinc.net Wed Jun 23 17:28:09 2010 From: toadhill at aeroinc.net (toadhill at aeroinc.net) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:28:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine Message-ID: Tom, Some 20hp Stovers do show up in the records. Send me the serial number and I'll tell you what the factory says it is and where they shipped it. toadhill at aeroinc.net Best Regards, Joe From maytagtwin at aol.com Wed Jun 23 21:38:28 2010 From: maytagtwin at aol.com (maytagtwin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:38:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] need repair and or owner's manual for small John Deere lawnmower In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CCE16E38AEA02C-728-52C4@webmail-d079.sysops.aol.com> Hi Folks, I have received a request from a friend who has acquired a John Deere lawnmower and needs a repair and or operators manual(s). Please advise me if you have such, or have a good source. The identification tag on the mower reads: John Deere GX14SBF405108 14SB 2.6 KW JSD9410 45 KG Regards, Ron Carroll Clearmont, MO USA -----Original Message----- From: toadhill at aeroinc.net To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Wed, Jun 23, 2010 7:28 pm Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine Tom, Some 20hp Stovers do show up in the records. Send me he serial number and I'll tell you what the factory ays it is and where they shipped it. toadhill at aeroinc.net Best Regards, Joe _______________________________________________ EL mailing list EL at lists.stationary-engine.com ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Jun 23 22:04:30 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:04:30 -0700 Subject: [SEL] need repair and or owner's manual for small John Deere lawnmower Message-ID: <20100623.220445.22947.117439@mailpop04.vgs.untd.com> Call the John Deere Distribution Center at: 800-522-7448 Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:38:28 -0400 maytagtwin at aol.com writes: > > Hi Folks, > I have received a request from a friend who has acquired a John > Deere lawnmower and needs a repair and or operators manual(s). > Please advise me if you have such, or have a good source. > > The identification tag on the mower reads: > > John Deere > GX14SBF405108 > 14SB 2.6 KW > JSD9410 45 KG > > Regards, > Ron Carroll > Clearmont, MO USA ____________________________________________________________ iPads for $23.48? Special Report: iPads & Laptops are being auctioned for an incredible 85% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c22e7a0ed996559c82st05vuc From maytagtwin at aol.com Wed Jun 23 22:14:59 2010 From: maytagtwin at aol.com (maytagtwin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 01:14:59 -0400 Subject: [SEL] need repair and or owner's manual for small John Deere lawnmower In-Reply-To: <20100623.220445.22947.117439@mailpop04.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100623.220445.22947.117439@mailpop04.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <8CCE1735372FB85-728-55B1@webmail-d079.sysops.aol.com> Hi Ron, Thank you. I'll pass your suggestion on. Ron -----Original Message----- From: rdhaskell at juno.com To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Thu, Jun 24, 2010 12:04 am Subject: Re: [SEL] need repair and or owner's manual for small John Deere lawnmower Call the John Deere Distribution Center at: 800-522-7448 Ron Haskell dhaskell at juno.com iverside, California USA ttp://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:38:28 -0400 maytagtwin at aol.com writes: Hi Folks, I have received a request from a friend who has acquired a John Deere lawnmower and needs a repair and or operators manual(s). Please advise me if you have such, or have a good source. The identification tag on the mower reads: John Deere GX14SBF405108 14SB 2.6 KW JSD9410 45 KG Regards, Ron Carroll Clearmont, MO USA ___________________________________________________________ Pads for $23.48? pecial Report: iPads & Laptops are being auctioned for an incredible 85% off! ttp://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c22e7a0ed996559c82st05vuc ______________________________________________ EL mailing list EL at lists.stationary-engine.com ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From DDK at Kahlers.net Wed Jun 23 22:20:39 2010 From: DDK at Kahlers.net (Darrell Kahler) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:20:39 -0700 Subject: [SEL] need repair and or owner's manual for small John Deere lawnmower In-Reply-To: <8CCE16E38AEA02C-728-52C4@webmail-d079.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCE16E38AEA02C-728-52C4@webmail-d079.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000a01cb135c$fdaf1560$f90d4020$@net> Try this.... Copy and paste it into your browser if it doesn't show as a link. http://www.deere.com/en_US/ProductCatalog/GC/servlet/servlet/com.deere.u9078 5.cce.productcatalog.view.servlets.PublicationsSearchServlet?userAction=publ icationsSearchResults&entryPoint=other&orderBy=pubType&tM=GC&searchCriteria= 14sb&submit=Search&language=english Here's how I got there...... go to JD's website(www.deere.com), click on commercial, click services and support, click the technical service publications button on the left side, click search for operators manuals(or parts manuals if you want one of those too). Th actual model number part of what's on that SN plate is 14sb. Just type that in and search. I use this quite a bit for work. So far it's worked for every machine I've come across. Hope it works! Darrell Kahler Portland, OR USA ddk at kahlers.net -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of maytagtwin at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:38 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] need repair and or owner's manual for small John Deere lawnmower Hi Folks, I have received a request from a friend who has acquired a John Deere lawnmower and needs a repair and or operators manual(s). Please advise me if you have such, or have a good source. The identification tag on the mower reads: John Deere GX14SBF405108 14SB 2.6 KW JSD9410 45 KG Regards, Ron Carroll Clearmont, MO USA -----Original Message----- From: toadhill at aeroinc.net To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Sent: Wed, Jun 23, 2010 7:28 pm Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine Tom, Some 20hp Stovers do show up in the records. Send me he serial number and I'll tell you what the factory ays it is and where they shipped it. toadhill at aeroinc.net Best Regards, Joe _______________________________________________ EL mailing list EL at lists.stationary-engine.com ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2598 - Release Date: 01/03/10 09:41:00 From maytagtwin at aol.com Wed Jun 23 22:43:13 2010 From: maytagtwin at aol.com (maytagtwin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 01:43:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] need repair and or owner's manual for small John Deere lawnmower In-Reply-To: <000a01cb135c$fdaf1560$f90d4020$@net> References: <8CCE16E38AEA02C-728-52C4@webmail-d079.sysops.aol.com> <000a01cb135c$fdaf1560$f90d4020$@net> Message-ID: <8CCE17745708C51-728-5776@webmail-d079.sysops.aol.com> Hi Darrell, Thank you. I'll tell my friend about this. Ron -----Original Message----- From: Darrell Kahler To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Sent: Thu, Jun 24, 2010 12:20 am Subject: Re: [SEL] need repair and or owner's manual for small John Deere lawnmower Try this.... Copy and paste it into your browser if it doesn't show as a ink. ttp://www.deere.com/en_US/ProductCatalog/GC/servlet/servlet/com.deere.u9078 .cce.productcatalog.view.servlets.PublicationsSearchServlet?userAction=publ cationsSearchResults&entryPoint=other&orderBy=pubType&tM=GC&searchCriteria= 4sb&submit=Search&language=english ere's how I got there...... go to JD's website(www.deere.com), click on ommercial, click services and support, click the technical service ublications button on the left side, click search for operators manuals(or arts manuals if you want one of those too). Th actual model number part of what's on that SN plate is 14sb. Just type that in and search. I use this quite a bit for work. So far it's worked for every machine I've ome across. Hope it works! Darrell Kahler ortland, OR USA dk at kahlers.net ----Original Message----- rom: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of aytagtwin at aol.com ent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:38 PM o: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com ubject: [SEL] need repair and or owner's manual for small John Deere awnmower i Folks, have received a request from a friend who has acquired a John Deere awnmower and needs a repair and or operators manual(s). Please advise me f you have such, or have a good source. The identification tag on the mower reads: John Deere X14SBF405108 4SB 2.6 KW SD9410 45 KG Regards, on Carroll learmont, MO USA ----Original Message----- rom: toadhill at aeroinc.net o: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com ent: Wed, Jun 23, 2010 7:28 pm ubject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine om, ome 20hp Stovers do show up in the records. Send me e serial number and I'll tell you what the factory ys it is and where they shipped it. oadhill at aeroinc.net est Regards, oe ______________________________________________ L mailing list L at lists.stationary-engine.com tp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ EL mailing list EL at lists.stationary-engine.com ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel nternal Virus Database is out of date. hecked by AVG - www.avg.com ersion: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2598 - Release Date: 01/03/10 9:41:00 _______________________________________________ EL mailing list EL at lists.stationary-engine.com ttp://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Jun 24 03:39:02 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (plowe at exemail.com.au) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 06:39:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland ATIS Charity Dinner and Auction Message-ID: <380-2201064241039294@M2W108.mail2web.com> Surely if I can travel 10,000 miles to the dinner, everyone can drive the 25 miles from Portland to attend ;-))))))lets make it a great get together. Peter, Oz Hi All, Once again it's time to plan for the Annual ATIS Dinner and Charity Auction during the Portland Show in August! Again this year the dinner/ auction will be at the Back 40 Junction in Decatur. (See: http://back40junction.com/default.aspx) The Back 40 is at 1011 North 13th Street (that's Rt. 27) in Decatur, about 25 miles North of the show grounds. It's on the West side of Rt. 27 at the North end of town. As usual the dinner will be at 6:00 p.m. on Thursday, August the 26th, and the charity auction will follow. Although not necessary for attendance, I do wish you would let me know if you plan to attend so that I can give Ellen an approximate number. (Off list would be best. I'm at rotigel at me.com) We, once again, will have the back room to ourselves for the dinner and auction! Please start thinking about what you plan to donate to the auction and start saving your money in order to bid--early and often as well as against yourself when necessary. ATIS has raised a good amount of money for some very worthwhile causes over the years. Let's keep that tradition alive once again this year! Dave at rotigel at me.com PS, If you have already contacted me about the dinner please do so again. I have not kept "numbers" until now. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Thu Jun 24 08:18:21 2010 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 11:18:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Joe, I'm going to retrieve it Saturday and I'll take some pictures and get the serial # for you. Tom > From: toadhill at aeroinc.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:28:09 -0500 > Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine > > Tom, > > Some 20hp Stovers do show up in the records. Send me > the serial number and I'll tell you what the factory > says it is and where they shipped it. > > toadhill at aeroinc.net > > Best Regards, > > Joe > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Fri Jun 25 15:42:12 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:42:12 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland camping area Message-ID: Help. Is anyone doing the campsite saving this year? Tom Ball is bringing his motorhome as a base for us during the show and needs to have a spot saved for it. Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Sun Jun 27 16:37:45 2010 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:37:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Joe, I couldn't find any serial #'s on it. Now that I have it at home I could take better measurements and the bore is 8 1/2" with 54 1/2" X 4 1/4" flywheels Here is a link to some pictures http://gasenginetom.com/large_stover.html Any ideas what bolts on in front of the fuel pump. Thanks Tom Winland Ohio > From: toadhill at aeroinc.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:28:09 -0500 > Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine > > Tom, > > Some 20hp Stovers do show up in the records. Send me > the serial number and I'll tell you what the factory > says it is and where they shipped it. > > toadhill at aeroinc.net > > Best Regards, > > Joe > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From edsengns at optusnet.com.au Sun Jun 27 16:38:04 2010 From: edsengns at optusnet.com.au (Edd Payne) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:38:04 +1000 Subject: [SEL] non Message-ID: <789E8277EFA74E7098F2000FC6EB84D1@Edd> EDD PAYNE PO Box 364 Gulgong N.S.W Australia 2852 Phone:0263742387 edsengns at optusnet.com.au edsengns From kkinney at herculesengines.com Sun Jun 27 20:25:40 2010 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:25:40 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both Flywheels wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the hub. I've been watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a few months ago a set came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. and am in Evansville, IN. I was able to get them transported from Conn. to Coolspring show last weekend. Yesterday dad and I took the time to switch them out. One pleasant surprise is that the new flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This means they are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added weight should make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and after video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7z-hKIE_Y Keith Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Mon Jun 28 02:44:40 2010 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:44:40 +0100 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... References: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> Message-ID: <4AB50723A9A34AC1BE216F39C1C569D1@morpheus> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Kinney" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 4:25 AM Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... >I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both Flywheels wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the >hub. I've been watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a few months ago a set came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. >and am in Evansville, IN. I was able to get them transported from Conn. to Coolspring show last weekend. Yesterday dad and I took >the time to switch them out. One pleasant surprise is that the new flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This means they >are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added weight should make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and >after video. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7z-hKIE_Y > Keith Hi Keith, It comes up with the message "This Video is Private" Dave Croft Warrington. http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Mon Jun 28 02:58:20 2010 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 19:58:20 +1000 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... In-Reply-To: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> References: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> Message-ID: <9309CA2C2C3D43DEAAAB0D1CDCD1E35F@KerryPC> Well done Keith Kerry >I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both Flywheels >wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the hub. I've been >watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a few months ago a set >came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. and am in Evansville, IN. I was >able to get them transported from Conn. to Coolspring show last weekend. >Yesterday dad and I took the time to switch them out. One pleasant >surprise is that the new flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This >means they are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added >weight should make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and >after video. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7z-hKIE_Y > Keith > > > Keith Kinney From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Mon Jun 28 03:09:49 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:09:49 +1000 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... References: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> <4AB50723A9A34AC1BE216F39C1C569D1@morpheus> Message-ID: Ditto. the fight to see it made me not look. Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Croft" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Kinney" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 4:25 AM > Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... > > >>I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both Flywheels >>wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the >>hub. I've been watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a few >>months ago a set came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. >>and am in Evansville, IN. I was able to get them transported from Conn. >>to Coolspring show last weekend. Yesterday dad and I took >>the time to switch them out. One pleasant surprise is that the new >>flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This means they >>are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added weight should >>make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and >>after video. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7z-hKIE_Y >> Keith > > Hi Keith, It comes up with the message "This Video is Private" > Dave Croft > Warrington. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Mon Jun 28 03:29:31 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:29:31 +1000 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... In-Reply-To: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> Message-ID: I also get the error message " This video is private." Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From Germoamer at aol.com Mon Jun 28 05:06:48 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:06:48 EDT Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine Message-ID: <1aba4.18e458f5.3959ea58@aol.com> In a message dated 6/27/2010 7:40:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gasenginetom at hotmail.com writes: Here is a link to some pictures Nice find Tom! Is the extra long crankshaft on the other side so that you can install the clutch mechanism on either side? Was that extra long shaft a common practice? Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From George_Best at adp.com Mon Jun 28 07:32:33 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:32:33 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3DAD2F8D@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Tom, Recheck the cylinder head for a serial number. I've seen the serial number stamped on the cylinder head around the 12 o'clock to 1 o'clock area near the head gasket. Just a guess but the extra bolt holes in the engine base could have been for mounting an air starter pump. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tom Winland Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:38 PM To: SEL list Subject: Re: [SEL] Big Stover Engine Hi Joe, I couldn't find any serial #'s on it. Now that I have it at home I could take better measurements and the bore is 8 1/2" with 54 1/2" X 4 1/4" flywheels Here is a link to some pictures http://gasenginetom.com/large_stover.html Any ideas what bolts on in front of the fuel pump. Thanks Tom Winland Ohio This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From George_Best at adp.com Mon Jun 28 07:35:34 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:35:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine In-Reply-To: <1aba4.18e458f5.3959ea58@aol.com> References: <1aba4.18e458f5.3959ea58@aol.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3DAD2FB2@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> My 18hp Stover also has the very long crankshaft. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Germoamer at aol.com Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:07 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] Big Stover Engine In a message dated 6/27/2010 7:40:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gasenginetom at hotmail.com writes: Here is a link to some pictures Nice find Tom! Is the extra long crankshaft on the other side so that you can install the clutch mechanism on either side? Was that extra long shaft a common practice? Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From kkinney at herculesengines.com Mon Jun 28 08:26:05 2010 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:26:05 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... In-Reply-To: <4AB50723A9A34AC1BE216F39C1C569D1@morpheus> References: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> <4AB50723A9A34AC1BE216F39C1C569D1@morpheus> Message-ID: <71CC558F-091D-494A-92D9-53B250FACFB8@herculesengines.com> Sorry about that guys. It should work now. Keith On Jun 28, 2010, at 4:44 AM, Dave Croft wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Kinney" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 4:25 AM > Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... > > >> I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both Flywheels wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the >> hub. I've been watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a few months ago a set came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. >> and am in Evansville, IN. I was able to get them transported from Conn. to Coolspring show last weekend. Yesterday dad and I took >> the time to switch them out. One pleasant surprise is that the new flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This means they >> are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added weight should make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and >> after video. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7z-hKIE_Y >> Keith > > Hi Keith, It comes up with the message "This Video is Private" > Dave Croft > Warrington. > http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From r7734g at hotmail.com Mon Jun 28 09:17:45 2010 From: r7734g at hotmail.com (Ron Gerlach) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:17:45 -0700 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... In-Reply-To: <71CC558F-091D-494A-92D9-53B250FACFB8@herculesengines.com> References: , <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com>, <4AB50723A9A34AC1BE216F39C1C569D1@morpheus>, <71CC558F-091D-494A-92D9-53B250FACFB8@herculesengines.com> Message-ID: Thank you for fixing the link. That is a smooth runner!! > From: kkinney at herculesengines.com > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:26:05 -0500 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... > > Sorry about that guys. It should work now. > Keith > > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 4:44 AM, Dave Croft wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Keith Kinney" > > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 4:25 AM > > Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... > > > > > >> I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both Flywheels wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the > >> hub. I've been watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a few months ago a set came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. > >> and am in Evansville, IN. I was able to get them transported from Conn. to Coolspring show last weekend. Yesterday dad and I took > >> the time to switch them out. One pleasant surprise is that the new flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This means they > >> are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added weight should make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and > >> after video. > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7z-hKIE_Y > >> Keith > > > > Hi Keith, It comes up with the message "This Video is Private" > > Dave Croft > > Warrington. > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ > > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Keith Kinney > kkinney at herculesengines.com > WWW.HerculesEngines.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon Jun 28 09:13:32 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:13:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... In-Reply-To: <71CC558F-091D-494A-92D9-53B250FACFB8@herculesengines.com> Message-ID: Very nice Keith. The extra weight will make it coast and coast..... I didn't know the Thermoil flywheels were heavier than their gas engine brothers. Was this true for all Thermoils or just the later ones? Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Kinney" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 4:25 AM > Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... > > >> I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both Flywheels wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the >> hub. I've been watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a few months ago a set came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. >> and am in Evansville, IN. I was able to get them transported from Conn. to Coolspring show last weekend. Yesterday dad and I took >> the time to switch them out. One pleasant surprise is that the new flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This means they >> are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added weight should make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and >> after video. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7z-hKIE_Y >> Keith From kkinney at herculesengines.com Mon Jun 28 09:29:21 2010 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:29:21 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <77825B10-E285-480A-968F-8F1E0C59425A@herculesengines.com> Thanks Tommy and Ron. These are flywheels from a 7 HP, Model T, Thermoil. I know the flywheels on my 5 HP, Model T, Thermoil are also heavier than the gas engine 5 HP flywheels. Since the Model T engines were the first one's produced by Hercules I guess they were all heavier. In running it yesterday I noticed that the mag didn't always trip correctly. I think once I get that figured out it will be a real nice running engine Keith On Jun 28, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Very nice Keith. The extra weight will make it coast and coast..... I > didn't know the Thermoil flywheels were heavier than their gas engine > brothers. Was this true for all Thermoils or just the later ones? > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Keith Kinney" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 4:25 AM >> Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... >> >> >>> I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both > Flywheels wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the >>> hub. I've been watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a > few months ago a set came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. >>> and am in Evansville, IN. I was able to get them transported from > Conn. to Coolspring show last weekend. Yesterday dad and I took >>> the time to switch them out. One pleasant surprise is that the new > flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This means they >>> are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added weight > should make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and >>> after video. >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7z-hKIE_Y >>> Keith > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From oldironnut at windstream.net Mon Jun 28 10:38:28 2010 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:38:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... In-Reply-To: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> References: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> Message-ID: <28AA2662-DB98-456C-B22F-6649013D0553@windstream.net> Very nice Keith! I love the instructions barked out by your dad.... CHOKE IT! On Jun 27, 2010, at 11:25 PM, Keith Kinney wrote: > I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both Flywheels wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the hub. I've been watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a few months ago a set came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. and am in Evansville, IN. I was able to get them transported from Conn. to Coolspring show last weekend. Yesterday dad and I took the time to switch them out. One pleasant surprise is that the new flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This means they are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added weight should make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and after video. From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Jun 28 11:01:23 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:01:23 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100628195446.00ceae30@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 06:00 PM 28/06/2010, you wrote: >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:37:45 -0400 >From: Tom Winland >Subject: Re: [SEL] Big Stover Engine > >Here is a link to some pictures >http://gasenginetom.com/large_stover.html >Thanks >Tom Winland Very nice pics Tom, Thanks for sharing. Are you left handed ?? :-) (see ) :-) Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From gasenginetom at hotmail.com Mon Jun 28 11:17:01 2010 From: gasenginetom at hotmail.com (Tom Winland) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:17:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100628195446.00ceae30@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: , <5.2.1.1.2.20100628195446.00ceae30@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: Thanks Jerry lol I'm right handed and the guy in that picture is who I bought it from and he was running the chain saw when I took that LOL Tom > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:01:23 +0200 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > From: jerrye at databak.co.za > Subject: Re: [SEL] Big Stover Engine > > At 06:00 PM 28/06/2010, you wrote: > >Message: 1 > >Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:37:45 -0400 > >From: Tom Winland > >Subject: Re: [SEL] Big Stover Engine > > > > >Here is a link to some pictures > >http://gasenginetom.com/large_stover.html > > > >Thanks > >Tom Winland > > > > > Very nice pics Tom, > Thanks for sharing. > > Are you left handed ?? :-) (see > ) :-) > > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From kkinney at herculesengines.com Mon Jun 28 12:01:43 2010 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:01:43 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... In-Reply-To: <28AA2662-DB98-456C-B22F-6649013D0553@windstream.net> References: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> <28AA2662-DB98-456C-B22F-6649013D0553@windstream.net> Message-ID: Thanks Mike. I was hoping that wouldn't come through on the video. :-) We finally figured out it was not a fuel issue but an ignition issue. For some reason the trip finger on the push rod was not returning far enough to drop in behind the trip lever of the mag. I didn't have time to fix it but once I do I think it will be a great runner. Keith On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Michael Tucker wrote: > Very nice Keith! I love the instructions barked out by your dad.... CHOKE IT! > > On Jun 27, 2010, at 11:25 PM, Keith Kinney wrote: > >> I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both Flywheels wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the hub. I've been watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a few months ago a set came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. and am in Evansville, IN. I was able to get them transported from Conn. to Coolspring show last weekend. Yesterday dad and I took the time to switch them out. One pleasant surprise is that the new flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This means they are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added weight should make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and after video. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From r7734g at hotmail.com Mon Jun 28 12:34:03 2010 From: r7734g at hotmail.com (Ron Gerlach) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:34:03 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Spam> New FM at Vista Ca. In-Reply-To: <20100622.131955.1000.195201@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100622.131955.1000.195201@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Ron Boy that FM is a beast. It will be fun seeing it run some day. I presume they are going to build a new cover for it and the Clark Brothers engine that will be in front of it. RonG > To: Wapa-members at rustyiron.com; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:19:49 -0700 > From: rdhaskell at juno.com > Subject: [SEL] Spam> New FM at Vista Ca. > > Hi all. > Just got back from the Steam and Gas Museum at Vista Ca. They got a BIG > Fairbanks Morse engine delivered and set today. A donation from Southern > California Edison. Provided power on Catalina Island. > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/BigFM# > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > ____________________________________________________________ > Refinance Now 4.0% FIXED! > $160,000 Mortgage for $633/mo. Free. No Obligation. Get 4 Quotes! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c211b1962f9a521591st02vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Jun 28 12:59:55 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:59:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... In-Reply-To: <4147F185-40D2-4FA1-9A6C-3E18B03D9322@herculesengines.com> Message-ID: Keith: Hve you counted the revs between hits? Between the wobbling of the flywheels and the time between hits, I almost fell asleep. ...... Well - for me that's not to big of a deal. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Keith Kinney Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:26 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] 7 HP Hercules Flywheel Wobble Fixed.... I have a 7 HP Hercules that had a badly bent crankshaft. Both Flywheels wobbled about 1/2 inch and one flywheel had a crack in the hub. I've been watching for a crankshaft and set of flywheels and a few months ago a set came up on Enginads. They were in Conn. and am in Evansville, IN. I was able to get them transported from Conn. to Coolspring show last weekend. Yesterday dad and I took the time to switch them out. One pleasant surprise is that the new flywheels are actually from a 7 HP Thermoil. This means they are 1/2 inch wider than the original flywheels. The added weight should make it a smooth runner. Here is a link to the before and after video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7z-hKIE_Y Keith Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Mon Jun 28 12:59:07 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:59:07 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New FM at Vista Ca. Message-ID: <20100628.130006.1009.200772@mailpop08.vgs.untd.com> Yes Ron, the plan is to put a roof over it, the Clark and the 200 hp side shaft Western. They have done a lot of work on closing up all the openings to keep the critters out. The aim is to have it running for the June show in 2011. The small compound steam engine is already partially apart to clean it up and get running. The guys on steam engine row really have their act together. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:34:03 -0700 Ron Gerlach writes: > > Ron > > Boy that FM is a beast. It will be fun seeing it run some day. I > presume they are going to build a new cover for it and the Clark > Brothers engine that will be in front of it. > > RonG ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c28ff6aefc0218880st05vuc From mathjr at optusnet.com.au Mon Jun 28 15:01:02 2010 From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au (John Mathieson) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 08:01:02 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine References: <1aba4.18e458f5.3959ea58@aol.com> Message-ID: <904EDBA0385347E69F9D63BFB5EA87D8@lightning> I see a lot of engines around rallies with bent crankshafts & I recon a lot of these are caused by attaching lifting slings to the flywheels. A spreader bar could be used to get a vertical pull on flywheels to avoid this happening. John Mathieson ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Big Stover Engine > > In a message dated 6/27/2010 7:40:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > gasenginetom at hotmail.com writes: > > Here is a link to some pictures > > > Nice find Tom! Is the extra long crankshaft on the other side so that > you > can install the clutch mechanism on either side? Was that extra long > shaft a common practice? > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2967 - Release Date: 06/27/10 18:35:00 -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.406 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2967 - Release Date: 06/27/10 18:35:00 From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Mon Jun 28 16:48:55 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 09:48:55 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Tom, As George says look around the cylinder and head for the number. My DX & YB have the numbers here. Also look around the face and rims of the flywheels as I have seen numbers there on earlier Stovers. Patrick Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From George_Best at adp.com Tue Jun 29 15:19:15 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:19:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Big Stover Engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3DC3C21E@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Tom, You need to hurry up and find that serial number! I'm curious as to how close it is to mine. Also curious if your engine has enough original paint left on it to tell how it was painted. Mine was repainted several previous owners ago and I haven't scraped on mine yet to see if I can find any original paint under the later paint. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Livingstone Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 4:49 PM To: ATIS Subject: Re: [SEL] Big Stover Engine Hi Tom, As George says look around the cylinder and head for the number. My DX & YB have the numbers here. Also look around the face and rims of the flywheels as I have seen numbers there on earlier Stovers. Patrick Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From frappi at wcoil.com Wed Jun 30 14:16:51 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:16:51 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Maytag Twin Coils In-Reply-To: References: <58C53D7BAC244898A8F742F715EA8EDD@HomeDesktop2> Message-ID: <20100630211651.A6D5D936F@smtp.wcoil.com> Hi All, I was wondering if anyone has a report on the new coils being sold by Zach N out in Iowa. How are they working out? Mark Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From rotigel at me.com Wed Jun 30 14:42:21 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:42:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Maytag Twin Coils In-Reply-To: <20100630211651.A6D5D936F@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <58C53D7BAC244898A8F742F715EA8EDD@HomeDesktop2> <20100630211651.A6D5D936F@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <273E9565-6F7C-4816-91D6-72BB61DB1F94@me.com> Hi Mark, The TWINS fail to run no matter what coils they have (or do not have) in them! Dave On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Mark Shulaw wrote: > > Hi All, I was wondering if anyone has a report on the new coils being > sold by Zach N out in Iowa. How are they working out? Mark > > > > > > > Mark Shulaw > 454 County Road 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frappi at wcoil.com Wed Jun 30 17:23:48 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:23:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Maytag Twin Coils In-Reply-To: <273E9565-6F7C-4816-91D6-72BB61DB1F94@me.com> References: <58C53D7BAC244898A8F742F715EA8EDD@HomeDesktop2> <20100630211651.A6D5D936F@smtp.wcoil.com> <273E9565-6F7C-4816-91D6-72BB61DB1F94@me.com> Message-ID: <20100701002349.078639361@smtp.wcoil.com> That seems to be the case here lately. Mark At 05:42 PM 6/30/2010, you wrote: >Hi Mark, The TWINS fail to run no matter what coils they have (or do >not have) in them! > Dave > >On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Mark Shulaw wrote: > > > > > Hi All, I was wondering if anyone has a report on the new coils being > > sold by Zach N out in Iowa. How are they working out? Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Shulaw > > 454 County Road 33 > > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > > USA > > > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com