From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  1 12:02:29 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 12:02:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Webster Bracket Help Please
Message-ID: <32765.69841.qm@web37303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Greetings Folks and welcome to 2010.
?
Back in 2004 I spent a Saturday at the Portland engine show.
While there I picked up a Nelson Brothers built MacLeod with a Webster mag.
This is the Nelson Brothers 45 degree angled bracket.
?
It has always been a bad starter so I have not done anything with it until now.
For the Buckley show this year I need a couple more good running engines.
I pulled the Webster bracket off and the movable shaft has a bit of slop in it.
?
With the medical issues I have been through lately and the time missed at work I don't have much in the way of engine cash right now.
I can't afford what a shop here wants to charge for this.
I would like to send this to someone who would be willing and able to drill and bush the hole to take the slop out of it. I would be happy to pay a reasonable fee.
?
Alan in Michigan

From edurand at mchsi.com  Fri Jan  1 14:47:19 2010
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 16:47:19 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Webster Bracket Help Please
In-Reply-To: <32765.69841.qm@web37303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBKEKLIJAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Alan:

Do you have a photo of the bracket so I have some idea of whether I can do the job with my lathe and mill?

If I can, I'd do it for the cost of materials.

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Alan
> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 02:02 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Cc: Old Engine.Org List
> Subject: [SEL] Webster Bracket Help Please
> 
> 
> Greetings Folks and welcome to 2010.
> ?
> Back in 2004 I spent a Saturday at the Portland 
> engine show.
> While there I picked up a Nelson Brothers built 
> MacLeod with a Webster mag.
> This is the Nelson Brothers 45 degree angled bracket.
> ?
> It has always been a bad starter so I have not 
> done anything with it until now.
> For the Buckley show this year I need a couple 
> more good running engines.
> I pulled the Webster bracket off and the movable 
> shaft has a bit of slop in it.
> ?
> With the medical issues I have been through 
> lately and the time missed at work I don't have 
> much in the way of engine cash right now.
> I can't afford what a shop here wants to charge for this.
> I would like to send this to someone who would be 
> willing and able to drill and bush the hole to 
> take the slop out of it. I would be happy to pay 
> a reasonable fee.
> ?
> Alan in Michigan




From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Fri Jan  1 16:20:53 2010
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 19:20:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
Message-ID: <23201407.1262391653927.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I don't know where you all get your batteries but my NiCad's will eat them up all day long.  They will outlast them on run time, not die in a flash and will last longer overall.  I make my living by the life and death of cordless tools and will go side by side with any of the those POS Lithium's you can come up with.  If your a DIYer then they are probably great but on the job they are nothing but CRAP!  I agree that the NiCads will remember but if you would read the instructions that come with tools then you would know this and you can prevent this thus making the charge last longer.

Tim Christoff.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Pavlinovich <pjp08 at steamengine.com.au>
>Sent: Jan 1, 2010 1:15 AM
>To: 'The SEL email discussion list' <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
>
>Oh absolutely - Lithium over NiCd anytime! They last ages and charge quickly
>and most importantly do not have memory. If you repeatedly charge NiCd when
>they are not depleted they will start to "remember" this and fail much
>earlier than they should have. The Lithium will generally be a higher
>amp-hour battery for the same size (this means they work longer between
>charges).
>
>Regards
>Paul
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Alan
>Sent: Friday, 1 January 2010 12:15 PM
>To: The SEL email discussion list
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
>
>I will use them over ni-cads anytime.
>My lithiums recharge so fast it is crazy how long they will last.
>My 18 Volt drill has an auto shift that will kick it into low gear if it is
>needed.
>The only time I felt it kick in was when I was drilling through metal and
>when it penetrated the other side and bit off more than the bit could chew
>that drill jumped into low gear and kept going.
>?
>Alan in Michigan
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Tim Christoff



From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  1 16:32:10 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 16:32:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Webster Bracket Help Please
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBKEKLIJAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <561301.21982.qm@web37303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thank you for the offer, Elden.
Another member emailed me directly one hour and thirty four minutes ahead of you.
This list is great !!!!!!
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Fri, 1/1/10, Elden DuRand <edurand at mchsi.com> wrote:


From: Elden DuRand <edurand at mchsi.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Webster Bracket Help Please
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 5:47 PM


Alan:

Do you have a photo of the bracket so I have some idea of whether I can do the job with my lathe and mill?

If I can, I'd do it for the cost of materials.

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>? Behalf Of Alan
> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 02:02 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Cc: Old Engine.Org List
> Subject: [SEL] Webster Bracket Help Please
> 
> 
> Greetings Folks and welcome to 2010.
> ?
> Back in 2004 I spent a Saturday at the Portland 
> engine show.
> While there I picked up a Nelson Brothers built 
> MacLeod with a Webster mag.
> This is the Nelson Brothers 45 degree angled bracket.
> ?
> It has always been a bad starter so I have not 
> done anything with it until now.
> For the Buckley show this year I need a couple 
> more good running engines.
> I pulled the Webster bracket off and the movable 
> shaft has a bit of slop in it.
> ?
> With the medical issues I have been through 
> lately and the time missed at work I don't have 
> much in the way of engine cash right now.
> I can't afford what a shop here wants to charge for this.
> I would like to send this to someone who would be 
> willing and able to drill and bush the hole to 
> take the slop out of it. I would be happy to pay 
> a reasonable fee.
> ?
> Alan in Michigan


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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  1 16:48:46 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 16:48:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
In-Reply-To: <23201407.1262391653927.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <314126.89301.qm@web37306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Make all the claims you want to.
I have been in the trades since 1975.
I am not into full time building right now but?I have spent 2 1/2 days driving 2 1/2" and 3" screws before the battery died.
I grabbed the one from that little MP3 playing radio and put the dead one on the charger.
Twenty minutes later it was charged and I had my music back.
?
I have seen way too many NICads puke out.
That is why I bought this great kit with real batteries.
?
Yup, I could make an adapter and plug in a cord to run my dead NiCad tools but why???
I already have a bunch of plug in drills and circular saws.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Fri, 1/1/10, Tim Christoff <tchristoff at earthlink.net> wrote:


From: Tim Christoff <tchristoff at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 7:20 PM


I don't know where you all get your batteries but my NiCad's will eat them up all day long.? They will outlast them on run time, not die in a flash and will last longer overall.? I make my living by the life and death of cordless tools and will go side by side with any of the those POS Lithium's you can come up with.? If your a DIYer then they are probably great but on the job they are nothing but CRAP!? I agree that the NiCads will remember but if you would read the instructions that come with tools then you would know this and you can prevent this thus making the charge last longer.

Tim Christoff.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Pavlinovich <pjp08 at steamengine.com.au>
>Sent: Jan 1, 2010 1:15 AM
>To: 'The SEL email discussion list' <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
>
>Oh absolutely - Lithium over NiCd anytime! They last ages and charge quickly
>and most importantly do not have memory. If you repeatedly charge NiCd when
>they are not depleted they will start to "remember" this and fail much
>earlier than they should have. The Lithium will generally be a higher
>amp-hour battery for the same size (this means they work longer between
>charges).
>
>Regards
>Paul
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Alan
>Sent: Friday, 1 January 2010 12:15 PM
>To: The SEL email discussion list
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
>
>I will use them over ni-cads anytime.
>My lithiums recharge so fast it is crazy how long they will last.
>My 18 Volt drill has an auto shift that will kick it into low gear if it is
>needed.
>The only time I felt it kick in was when I was drilling through metal and
>when it penetrated the other side and bit off more than the bit could chew
>that drill jumped into low gear and kept going.
>?
>Alan in Michigan
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


Tim Christoff

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From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Fri Jan  1 21:03:14 2010
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 00:03:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
Message-ID: <8799372.1262408594105.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>



-----Original Message-----
>From: Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Jan 1, 2010 7:48 PM
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
>
>Make all the claims you want to.
>I have been in the trades since 1975.

They didn't have cordless tools in 75 (at least not what were talking about) so you can't use that as a basis for the batteries

>I am not into full time building right now but?I have spent 2 1/2 days driving 2 1/2" and 3" screws before the battery died.

Not saying your wrong because I do know how fast they charge but when you start putting in an average of 15,000 screws a week you will be tossing those light weight batteries away.  In all the years that we have been using the cordless drills we (Myself and crew and they supply their own) have found that the best drill for screwing on metal is either the 14.4 volt or 18 volt NiCad Dewalts.  I actually find the 14.4 XRP to be the best one even though I have more than a few of each.  The biggest thing you find out when putting in that many screws is the Lith batteries don't weigh enough to offset the recoil of the tool when the screw hits home causing your wrist to twist farther than with the heavier NiCad's with can assorb more of it.  The only way to avoid this with the Lith batteries is to use the new impact drivers but they also have the draw back of not running fast enough.  You can put in 2 screws to 1 with the regular drills.

Your quick charging time is offset by the quick run down time and it is more than 2 to 1 so your charging 2 plus batteries to my 1.

Still don't believe me, join me for a day on a barn roof and you will see.  Until you use the tool like I do don't tell me I can make all the claims I want to, there not claims, there the truth.  

Tim



Tim Christoff



From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  2 06:14:00 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 06:14:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
In-Reply-To: <8799372.1262408594105.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <612484.33641.qm@web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

You are cute, Tim.
I am not going to continue this.
Please don't fall off a barn roof.
I don't spend much time on roofs any longer.
You like what you have and I will like what I have.
These 18 Volt Lithiums last longer and charge quicker than the 14 Volt NiCads that I just retired to the scrap heap.
Play safe.
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sat, 1/2/10, Tim Christoff <tchristoff at earthlink.net> wrote:


From: Tim Christoff <tchristoff at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 12:03 AM




-----Original Message-----
>From: Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Jan 1, 2010 7:48 PM
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
>
>Make all the claims you want to.
>I have been in the trades since 1975.

They didn't have cordless tools in 75 (at least not what were talking about) so you can't use that as a basis for the batteries

>I am not into full time building right now but?I have spent 2 1/2 days driving 2 1/2" and 3" screws before the battery died.

Not saying your wrong because I do know how fast they charge but when you start putting in an average of 15,000 screws a week you will be tossing those light weight batteries away.? In all the years that we have been using the cordless drills we (Myself and crew and they supply their own) have found that the best drill for screwing on metal is either the 14.4 volt or 18 volt NiCad Dewalts.? I actually find the 14.4 XRP to be the best one even though I have more than a few of each.? The biggest thing you find out when putting in that many screws is the Lith batteries don't weigh enough to offset the recoil of the tool when the screw hits home causing your wrist to twist farther than with the heavier NiCad's with can assorb more of it.? The only way to avoid this with the Lith batteries is to use the new impact drivers but they also have the draw back of not running fast enough.? You can put in 2 screws to 1 with the regular drills.

Your quick charging time is offset by the quick run down time and it is more than 2 to 1 so your charging 2 plus batteries to my 1.

Still don't believe me, join me for a day on a barn roof and you will see.? Until you use the tool like I do don't tell me I can make all the claims I want to, there not claims, there the truth.? 

Tim



Tim Christoff

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From edurand at mchsi.com  Sat Jan  2 08:07:32 2010
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 10:07:32 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Webster Bracket Help Please
In-Reply-To: <561301.21982.qm@web37303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBGEKOIJAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Alan:

Great!  Go for it!

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Alan
> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 06:32 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Webster Bracket Help Please
> 
> 
> Thank you for the offer, Elden.
> Another member emailed me directly one hour and 
> thirty four minutes ahead of you.
> This list is great !!!!!!




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Jan  2 12:51:34 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:51:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Craig Mathews and the WFITBHFPFTMCOTKU
Message-ID: <13c76f3818b7950a29baee7292615903.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Chuck,

I think the full name is the "World Famous Internationally Traveled Blue-Handled
Fence Pliers From The Magnetic Center Of The Known Universe."  8-))

AKA...

The WFITBHFPFTMCOTKU.

Maybe they could make their way to Portland 2010?  That Charity Auction still seems
to be alive and well.  I'm just happy that they've surfaced again.  I was afraid
that they'd been lost.

See ya,  Arnie

PS - Perhaps for a suitable charitable donation, Jerry Evans could get the
WFITBHFPFTMCOTKU some exposure on the Dark Continent and thus further increase their
value prior to Portland 2010?

PPS - Does anyone recall just which countries the WFITBHFPFTMCOTKU have visited?  I
know that they've been to Holland and Oz (maybe more than once?).  Canada?  New
Zealand?  England?  Scotland?  Japan?  Craig, I think there's a logbook with the
WFITBHFPFTMCOTKU?

On Sat, January 2, 2010 3:28 pm, Labpoop at aol.com wrote:
> I forget, what does the WFIT stand for?
>
> Chuck
>
>
> In a message dated 1/2/2010 7:22:37 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> shop at cccomm.net writes:
>
> You must be referring to the infamous blue  handled fence pliers! If my old
> brain remembers correctly they were first  initiated into the auction by
> Farmer. Lot of the newer folks on this list  don't know they've been to Europe
> and Australia. It would be fun to get that  going again.
> Dave E
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:  _Craig Mathews_ (mailto:rustaholic at sbcglobal.net)
> To: _stationary-engine at oldengine.org_
> (mailto:stationary-engine at oldengine.org)
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 1:55  PM
> Subject: Re: New Years crankup ??
>
>
> I will drag my International 1-1/2 to 2-1/2 LB pumpjack outfit  out and
> fire it at midnight PST. Yeah, whatever happened to the  auction. I still have
> the WFITBHFP's! More traveled now......
>
> Craig M.
> Northridge, CA 91325
>
> --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Jerry Evans  <_jerrye at databak.co.za_
> (mailto:jerrye at databak.co.za) >  wrote:
>
> From:  Jerry Evans <_jerrye at databak.co.za_ (mailto:jerrye at databak.co.za) >
> Subject:  New Years crankup ??
> To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org,  sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Date: Thursday, December 31,  2009, 10:24 AM
>
> Hi all,
> There's  been no talk of a New Year crankup this year - anyone having  one?
>
> I will not be as I will be  fast asleep at midnight. I worked until 5:00 am
> this morning and I'm  "Bushed" (or should that now be "Obama'd).
>
> As an alternative, I'll start my pickup's engine just  now so that I can
> park it in the workshop. I hope that's  acceptable:-)
>
> On the subject of  things falling by the wayside - whatever happened to the
> SEL Charity  Xmas Auction. Has it now died officially? Last year's auction
> seemed  to herald it's demise.
>
> I've only  just made the Brass Plate from last years auction - but that's
> only  because the pics to copy only arrived a few weeks ago but that's not  a
> problem as the winner and I have been in constant touch about  them,
> (before someone again accuses me of taking a year or more to  deliver plates <big
> grin>). There is no "time limit". Then  again I'm still waiting for pics for
> some plates that were won on  the 2007 (or could it have been 2006) auction
> - also no problem the  winner and I are in touch.
>
> O.K.  that's enough rambling - Happy New Year (again) to you  all.
>




From jbcast at charter.net  Sat Jan  2 13:04:20 2010
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 13:04:20 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Craig Mathews and the WFITBHFPFTMCOTKU
In-Reply-To: <13c76f3818b7950a29baee7292615903.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <20100102160420.U4W4Y.1491085.root@mp16>


---- Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote: 
> Hi Chuck,
> 
> I think the full name is the "World Famous Internationally Traveled Blue-Handled
> Fence Pliers From The Magnetic Center Of The Known Universe."  8-))
> 
> AKA...
> 
> The WFITBHFPFTMCOTKU.
> 
> Maybe they could make their way to Portland 2010?  That Charity Auction still seems
> to be alive and well.  I'm just happy that they've surfaced again.  I was afraid
> that they'd been lost.
> 
> See ya,  Arnie
> 
> PS - Perhaps for a suitable charitable donation, Jerry Evans could get the
> WFITBHFPFTMCOTKU some exposure on the Dark Continent and thus further increase their
> value prior to Portland 2010?
> 
> PPS - Does anyone recall just which countries the WFITBHFPFTMCOTKU have visited?  I
> know that they've been to Holland and Oz (maybe more than once?).  Canada?  New
> Zealand?  England?  Scotland?  Japan?  Craig, I think there's a logbook with the
> WFITBHFPFTMCOTKU?
> 
> On Sat, January 2, 2010 3:28 pm, Labpoop at aol.com wrote:
> > I forget, what does the WFIT stand for?
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/2/2010 7:22:37 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> > shop at cccomm.net writes:
> >
> > You must be referring to the infamous blue  handled fence pliers! If my old
> > brain remembers correctly they were first  initiated into the auction by
> > Farmer. Lot of the newer folks on this list  don't know they've been to Europe
> > and Australia. It would be fun to get that  going again.
> > Dave E
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:  _Craig Mathews_ (mailto:rustaholic at sbcglobal.net)
> > To: _stationary-engine at oldengine.org_
> > (mailto:stationary-engine at oldengine.org)
> > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 1:55  PM
> > Subject: Re: New Years crankup ??
> >
> >
> > I will drag my International 1-1/2 to 2-1/2 LB pumpjack outfit  out and
> > fire it at midnight PST. Yeah, whatever happened to the  auction. I still have
> > the WFITBHFP's! More traveled now......
> >
> > Craig M.
> > Northridge, CA 91325
> >
> > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Jerry Evans  <_jerrye at databak.co.za_
> > (mailto:jerrye at databak.co.za) >  wrote:
> >
> > From:  Jerry Evans <_jerrye at databak.co.za_ (mailto:jerrye at databak.co.za) >
> > Subject:  New Years crankup ??
> > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org,  sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > Date: Thursday, December 31,  2009, 10:24 AM
> >
> > Hi all,
> > There's  been no talk of a New Year crankup this year - anyone having  one?
> >
> > I will not be as I will be  fast asleep at midnight. I worked until 5:00 am
> > this morning and I'm  "Bushed" (or should that now be "Obama'd).
> >
> > As an alternative, I'll start my pickup's engine just  now so that I can
> > park it in the workshop. I hope that's  acceptable:-)
> >
> > On the subject of  things falling by the wayside - whatever happened to the
> > SEL Charity  Xmas Auction. Has it now died officially? Last year's auction
> > seemed  to herald it's demise.
> >
> > I've only  just made the Brass Plate from last years auction - but that's
> > only  because the pics to copy only arrived a few weeks ago but that's not  a
> > problem as the winner and I have been in constant touch about  them,
> > (before someone again accuses me of taking a year or more to  deliver plates <big
> > grin>). There is no "time limit". Then  again I'm still waiting for pics for
> > some plates that were won on  the 2007 (or could it have been 2006) auction
> > - also no problem the  winner and I are in touch.
> >
> > O.K.  that's enough rambling - Happy New Year (again) to you  all.
> >
> 
> 
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From falcon at telenet.net  Sat Jan  2 18:47:52 2010
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:47:52 -0500
Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Engines_on_Craigslist?=
Message-ID: <4B400558.1010105@telenet.net>


Nothing to do with me but someone might be interested

http://utica.craigslist.org/tls/1533837789.html


approx 10 old stationary engines - $25 (rome)
Date: 2010-01-02, 10:53AM EST
Reply to: sale-s4j6e-1533837789 at craigslist.org [Errors when replying to
ads?]

Cleaning out garage have approx 10 to 15 old stationary engines some
running some not will sell 1 or all small engine man dream call
 315 533 7298 Bill



From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Sun Jan  3 07:21:49 2010
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 10:21:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
Message-ID: <2315739.1262532110043.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Sorry Alan, I like girls.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>

>You are cute, Tim.

>

Tim Christoff


From George_Best at adp.com  Mon Jan  4 08:59:01 2010
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 10:59:01 -0600
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
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I posted a message on the 1st, but it never showed up on SEL, so here it again.

I ran my 4hp (large version) Lorenz for a few minutes on the 1st.  It's the one engine I have where I can walk into the barn and within a few seconds have it running.  Almost always starts on the first pull of the flywheel which is to trip the magneto.

I've got other engines that would also start easy, but they all need batteries and coils hooked up and I don't keep batteries with the engines.  Plus they also would need some fuel as I don't keep gas in their tanks as well.

The old trusty Lorenz is the one I keep gas in just in case I want to run a engine for myself or to show to a visitor.

This is the second oldest Lorenz that I know of in the USA.
I'm sure Arnie could quickly confirm this or not with that Lorenz registry he maintains so well. ;-)

There is a youtube clip I posted 3 years ago of this engine running, just search for "4hp Lorenz".  Can't post the youtube link at the moment, since I'm at work and youtube is one of the many sites they block access to from work.  Wonder why?  ;-)

George


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From langer5 at sympatico.ca  Mon Jan  4 09:51:15 2010
From: langer5 at sympatico.ca (Larry Anger)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:15 -0500
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP330A36446E6A13EA2B776197740@phx.gbl>

George - that Lorenz of yours is sure a sweet running machine.   - -  As far 
as the well maintained Lorenz registry produced and published by that 
infamous European traveler Arnie, well I have searched high and low and have 
determined that he has written all those many pages in invisible ink. I did 
see with my own eyes, hour upon hour of dedicated time, to climbing over, 
around, under, and through all kinds of rusty memorabilia with pen and 
notebook in hand supposedly making known to the engine collectors of the 
world the long awaited information from the Data plates of these great Czech 
engines. But Alas, is the year 2010 going to be another year where we 
wait!!!!! and wait!!!!! and wait!!!! only to be disappointed yet again??????

Larry Anger
163926 Brownsville Rd.
R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario
Canada N4G 4G8
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Best, George" <George_Best at adp.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??


>I posted a message on the 1st, but it never showed up on SEL, so here it 
>again.
>
> I ran my 4hp (large version) Lorenz for a few minutes on the 1st.  It's 
> the one engine I have where I can walk into the barn and within a few 
> seconds have it running.  Almost always starts on the first pull of the 
> flywheel which is to trip the magneto.
>
> I've got other engines that would also start easy, but they all need 
> batteries and coils hooked up and I don't keep batteries with the engines. 
> Plus they also would need some fuel as I don't keep gas in their tanks as 
> well.
>
> The old trusty Lorenz is the one I keep gas in just in case I want to run 
> a engine for myself or to show to a visitor.
>
> This is the second oldest Lorenz that I know of in the USA.
> I'm sure Arnie could quickly confirm this or not with that Lorenz registry 
> he maintains so well. ;-)
>
> There is a youtube clip I posted 3 years ago of this engine running, just 
> search for "4hp Lorenz".  Can't post the youtube link at the moment, since 
> I'm at work and youtube is one of the many sites they block access to from 
> work.  Wonder why?  ;-)
>
> George
>
>
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Jan  4 10:28:40 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 13:28:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
Message-ID: <175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi George,

Aren't those Lorenz engines just the SWEETEST runners?

BTW, if any list members out there have Lorenz or Benz engines that are NOT in the
registry, please send me the details.  I need your name, city, state, and country,
engine HP & S/N, plus a listing of any unsual features and comments on overall
condition.  Pictures are a bonus.

Please get me that info.  You don't want to be left out of the SOON TO BE RELEASED
major 2010 updated release of the Lorenz & Benz Registry!!

See ya,  Arnie

Arnie Fero
Pittsburgh, PA
Keeper of the Lorenz & Benz Engine Registry
fero_ah at city-net.com



On Mon, January 4, 2010 11:59 am, Best, George wrote:
> I posted a message on the 1st, but it never showed up on SEL, so here it again.
>
> I ran my 4hp (large version) Lorenz for a few minutes on the 1st.  It's the one
> engine I have where I can walk into the barn and within a few seconds have it
> running.  Almost always starts on the first pull of the flywheel which is to trip
> the magneto.
>
> I've got other engines that would also start easy, but they all need batteries and
> coils hooked up and I don't keep batteries with the engines.  Plus they also would
> need some fuel as I don't keep gas in their tanks as well.
>
> The old trusty Lorenz is the one I keep gas in just in case I want to run a engine
> for myself or to show to a visitor.
>
> This is the second oldest Lorenz that I know of in the USA.
> I'm sure Arnie could quickly confirm this or not with that Lorenz registry he
> maintains so well. ;-)
>
> There is a youtube clip I posted 3 years ago of this engine running, just search for
> "4hp Lorenz".  Can't post the youtube link at the moment, since I'm at work and
> youtube is one of the many sites they block access to from work.  Wonder why?  ;-)





From George_Best at adp.com  Mon Jan  4 10:43:45 2010
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:43:45 -0600
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
In-Reply-To: <175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6941@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Arnie,

I must admit when I first got my Czech engines I thought the Benz engines were better than the Lorenz.  However, after years of having both I must say my early Lorenz is the favorite of the three Czech engines in my barn.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 10:29 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??

Hi George,

Aren't those Lorenz engines just the SWEETEST runners?

See ya,  Arnie


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From rob at rustyiron.com  Mon Jan  4 11:02:49 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 11:02:49 -0800
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
In-Reply-To: <175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com>

On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>
> Arnie Fero
> Pittsburgh, PA
> Keeper of the Secret Lorenz & Benz Engine Registry

Plan A:  OS X comes with iWeb, a fairly capable web page editor.
Plan B:  Bevmo accepts online orders and can ship Pimms to the UK.
Plan C:  Sell your Lorenz and start a Briggs & Stratton registry.

Rob

P.S.
You seem to be getting slow in your old age.
Youthful Arnie never would have poked his head
up long enough to allow for such a clean shot.




From edstoller at earthlink.net  Mon Jan  4 10:56:29 2010
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 13:56:29 -0500
Subject: [SEL] LEORI Engine
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <916586D23FD14BDAB2A9DB1DB672A475@Ed>

I have been ask to help finding a gear for a small 2 cylinder Leroi  engine 
ser. #  146740. The engine belongs to the Stephenson County Antique Engine 
Club in Vermont, but the engine is in Illinois.  The magneto gear is fine, 
but 4 or 5  teeth on the drive gear are missing. It's about a 4 inch gear. 
The numbers on the gear are: A13-398  and  26-2-4.

The name 'Leori' is strange to me, so I wonder if that is correct. I would 
think it would be "Leroy".  I don't know if the engine is gas or diesel.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/


 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Jan  4 11:30:09 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:30:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Re=3A__New_Years_crankup_=3F=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <90b8de78ba15ff304ef2a4680c1e36b3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Ever play Whac-A-Mole?  8-))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whac-A-Mole

On Mon, January 4, 2010 2:02 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:
> On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>> Keeper of the Secret Lorenz & Benz Engine Registry
>
> You seem to be getting slow in your old age.
> Youthful Arnie never would have poked his head
> up long enough to allow for such a clean shot.





From sluggo54 at hotmail.com  Mon Jan  4 12:06:08 2010
From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:06:08 -0600
Subject: [SEL] George Best
Message-ID: <BAY127-W198812C0B81A038702C4ACCB740@phx.gbl>


George, seeing your post on the 4 hp Lorenz reminded me of something.  Last week, on RFD's Classic Tractors, I saw a tour of the Mehmke Farm Museum.  The man giving the tour showed a 1917 Russell, then mentioned that it is only run when the man he bought it from George Best, stops by to run it.

http://steamtraction.farmcollector.com/Farm-Shows/Mehmke-Museum-In-Montana.aspx

Bruce Younger   

05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68   

Madison, SD  

sluggo54 at hotmail.com   



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armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter."   

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From jlb94 at juno.com  Mon Jan  4 12:04:01 2010
From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 20:04:01 GMT
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <20100104.150401.21058.4@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>

I am sending this out to see if I am still a subscriber to the SEL.
I have NOT received the regular, first of the month reminder, for the SEL but I HAVE received it for the OLD-IRON list.
I have tried to contact the owner-lists but get back e-mails that don't make a lot of sense to me.
So - This is an attempt to contact someone on the list other than responding to the usual threads.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
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From Germoamer at aol.com  Mon Jan  4 12:22:44 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 15:22:44 EST
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <ccc.650c65f1.3873a814@aol.com>

Joe,
 
I got my monthly reminder the other day with the below text:
 
This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about  your
lists.stationary-engine.com mailing list memberships.  It  includes
your subscription info and how to use it to change it or  unsubscribe
from a list.

<<You can visit the URLs to change your  membership status or
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In addition to the URL interfaces, you can also use  email to make such
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the list (for example,  mailman-request at lists.stationary-engine.com)
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If you have questions, problems, comments, etc, send them  to
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From George_Best at adp.com  Mon Jan  4 12:58:08 2010
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:58:08 -0600
Subject: [SEL] George Best
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W198812C0B81A038702C4ACCB740@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY127-W198812C0B81A038702C4ACCB740@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3400C71F@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Yep, most every time I visited Carl I'd start up that tractor.

Ran it last in September 2008.

Carl passed away last year and I don't know what will happen to his collection.  Haven't talked to his son yet to find out.

Sure wish I still had that Russell although I could never afford to buy it if was ever auctioned off.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Younger
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 12:06 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] George Best


George, seeing your post on the 4 hp Lorenz reminded me of something.  Last week, on RFD's Classic Tractors, I saw a tour of the Mehmke Farm Museum.  The man giving the tour showed a 1917 Russell, then mentioned that it is only run when the man he bought it from George Best, stops by to run it.

http://steamtraction.farmcollector.com/Farm-Shows/Mehmke-Museum-In-Montana.aspx

Bruce Younger   

05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68   

Madison, SD  

sluggo54 at hotmail.com   



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armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter."   

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From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Mon Jan  4 14:30:33 2010
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 22:30:33 -0000
Subject: [SEL] LEORI Engine
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
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Message-ID: <0C4431CB50A14CE7B6DAE4BF00976792@zen>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed stoller" <edstoller at earthlink.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Cc: <joekaelin at msn.com>; <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:56 PM
Subject: [SEL] LEORI Engine


>I have been ask to help finding a gear for a small 2 cylinder Leroi  engine 
> ser. #  146740. The engine belongs to the Stephenson County Antique Engine 
> Club in Vermont, but the engine is in Illinois.  The magneto gear is fine, 
> but 4 or 5  teeth on the drive gear are missing. It's about a 4 inch gear. 
> The numbers on the gear are: A13-398  and  26-2-4.
> 
> The name 'Leori' is strange to me, so I wonder if that is correct. I would 
> think it would be "Leroy".  I don't know if the engine is gas or diesel.
> 
> Ed Stoller
> New Fairfield, CT
> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/

Hi Edd, The correct engine name is Leroi  meaning "The King" in French.
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv



From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Jan  4 15:00:14 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 18:00:14 -0500
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
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Message-ID: <002a01ca8d91$ad26dca0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Soon to be released, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??


> Hi George,
>
> Aren't those Lorenz engines just the SWEETEST runners?
>
> BTW, if any list members out there have Lorenz or Benz engines that are 
> NOT in the
> registry, please send me the details.  I need your name, city, state, and 
> country,
> engine HP & S/N, plus a listing of any unsual features and comments on 
> overall
> condition.  Pictures are a bonus.
>
> Please get me that info.  You don't want to be left out of the SOON TO BE 
> RELEASED
> major 2010 updated release of the Lorenz & Benz Registry!!
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> Arnie Fero
> Pittsburgh, PA
> Keeper of the Lorenz & Benz Engine Registry
> fero_ah at city-net.com
>
>
>
> On Mon, January 4, 2010 11:59 am, Best, George wrote:
>> I posted a message on the 1st, but it never showed up on SEL, so here it 
>> again.
>>
>> I ran my 4hp (large version) Lorenz for a few minutes on the 1st.  It's 
>> the one
>> engine I have where I can walk into the barn and within a few seconds 
>> have it
>> running.  Almost always starts on the first pull of the flywheel which is 
>> to trip
>> the magneto.
>>
>> I've got other engines that would also start easy, but they all need 
>> batteries and
>> coils hooked up and I don't keep batteries with the engines.  Plus they 
>> also would
>> need some fuel as I don't keep gas in their tanks as well.
>>
>> The old trusty Lorenz is the one I keep gas in just in case I want to run 
>> a engine
>> for myself or to show to a visitor.
>>
>> This is the second oldest Lorenz that I know of in the USA.
>> I'm sure Arnie could quickly confirm this or not with that Lorenz 
>> registry he
>> maintains so well. ;-)
>>
>> There is a youtube clip I posted 3 years ago of this engine running, just 
>> search for
>> "4hp Lorenz".  Can't post the youtube link at the moment, since I'm at 
>> work and
>> youtube is one of the many sites they block access to from work.  Wonder 
>> why?  ;-)
>
>
>
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From rotigel at me.com  Mon Jan  4 18:27:48 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:27:48 -0800
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??/now L&B Registry
In-Reply-To: <002a01ca8d91$ad26dca0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
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	<002a01ca8d91$ad26dca0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
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What Arnie has not told many of you is that his L&B Registry List is  
NOT free. Please send me $50.00 and I'll forward your name and address  
to Arnie!
	Dave

On Jan 4, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Mike Royster wrote:

> Soon to be released, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
>
>
>> Hi George,
>>
>> Aren't those Lorenz engines just the SWEETEST runners?
>>
>> BTW, if any list members out there have Lorenz or Benz engines that  
>> are
>> NOT in the
>> registry, please send me the details.  I need your name, city,  
>> state, and
>> country,
>> engine HP & S/N, plus a listing of any unsual features and comments  
>> on
>> overall
>> condition.  Pictures are a bonus.
>>
>> Please get me that info.  You don't want to be left out of the SOON  
>> TO BE
>> RELEASED
>> major 2010 updated release of the Lorenz & Benz Registry!!
>>
>> See ya,  Arnie
>>
>> Arnie Fero
>> Pittsburgh, PA
>> Keeper of the Lorenz & Benz Engine Registry
>> fero_ah at city-net.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, January 4, 2010 11:59 am, Best, George wrote:
>>> I posted a message on the 1st, but it never showed up on SEL, so  
>>> here it
>>> again.
>>>
>>> I ran my 4hp (large version) Lorenz for a few minutes on the 1st.   
>>> It's
>>> the one
>>> engine I have where I can walk into the barn and within a few  
>>> seconds
>>> have it
>>> running.  Almost always starts on the first pull of the flywheel  
>>> which is
>>> to trip
>>> the magneto.
>>>
>>> I've got other engines that would also start easy, but they all need
>>> batteries and
>>> coils hooked up and I don't keep batteries with the engines.  Plus  
>>> they
>>> also would
>>> need some fuel as I don't keep gas in their tanks as well.
>>>
>>> The old trusty Lorenz is the one I keep gas in just in case I want  
>>> to run
>>> a engine
>>> for myself or to show to a visitor.
>>>
>>> This is the second oldest Lorenz that I know of in the USA.
>>> I'm sure Arnie could quickly confirm this or not with that Lorenz
>>> registry he
>>> maintains so well. ;-)
>>>
>>> There is a youtube clip I posted 3 years ago of this engine  
>>> running, just
>>> search for
>>> "4hp Lorenz".  Can't post the youtube link at the moment, since  
>>> I'm at
>>> work and
>>> youtube is one of the many sites they block access to from work.   
>>> Wonder
>>> why?  ;-)
>>
>>
>>
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From edstoller at earthlink.net  Mon Jan  4 15:28:02 2010
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 18:28:02 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Leroi Engine, corrected
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<916586D23FD14BDAB2A9DB1DB672A475@Ed>
	<0C4431CB50A14CE7B6DAE4BF00976792@zen>
Message-ID: <0B56B1FF45CE42DFBE5E375D1C5A8160@Ed>

I have been accused of being lecdistic, so it got me again.

Bob, any idea of what make of tractor?

Ed
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Croft" <dave.croft at ntlworld.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Cc: <joekaelin at msn.com>; <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] LEORI Engine


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ed stoller" <edstoller at earthlink.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Cc: <joekaelin at msn.com>; <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:56 PM
> Subject: [SEL] LEORI Engine
>
>
>>I have been ask to help finding a gear for a small 2 cylinder Leroi 
>>engine ser. #  146740. The engine belongs to the Stephenson County Antique 
>>Engine Club in Vermont, but the engine is in Illinois.  The magneto gear 
>>is fine, but 4 or 5  teeth on the drive gear are missing. It's about a 4 
>>inch gear. The numbers on the gear are: A13-398  and  26-2-4.
>>
>> The name 'Leori' is strange to me, so I wonder if that is correct. I 
>> would think it would be "Leroy".  I don't know if the engine is gas or 
>> diesel.
>>
>> Ed Stoller
>> New Fairfield, CT
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/
>
> Hi Edd, The correct engine name is Leroi  meaning "The King" in French.
> Dave Croft
> Warrington
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From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Mon Jan  4 16:24:52 2010
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 19:24:52 -0500
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP330A36446E6A13EA2B776197740@phx.gbl>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>,
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>,
	<BLU0-SMTP330A36446E6A13EA2B776197740@phx.gbl>
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Larry ,  the registry was once open for all to seen and enjoy, until one day I send in pics and numbers for my Lorenz........ At that point  the keeper of the registry realized my Lorenz was the fairest of them all, even prettier than Sophia....... then the registry disappeared into invisibleness so no longer could anyone see that grand registry or my beautiful engine.  so so sad.  Maybe we should start a counter list! My brother got a copy of Arnies notes that day he slept through Belgium and most of Holland.  ps keep this under your hat,  Steve
 
> From: langer5 at sympatico.ca
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:15 -0500
> Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
> 
> George - that Lorenz of yours is sure a sweet running machine. - - As far 
> as the well maintained Lorenz registry produced and published by that 
> infamous European traveler Arnie, well I have searched high and low and have 
> determined that he has written all those many pages in invisible ink. I did 
> see with my own eyes, hour upon hour of dedicated time, to climbing over, 
> around, under, and through all kinds of rusty memorabilia with pen and 
> notebook in hand supposedly making known to the engine collectors of the 
> world the long awaited information from the Data plates of these great Czech 
> engines. But Alas, is the year 2010 going to be another year where we 
> wait!!!!! and wait!!!!! and wait!!!! only to be disappointed yet again??????
> 
> Larry Anger
> 163926 Brownsville Rd.
> R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario
> Canada N4G 4G8
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Best, George" <George_Best at adp.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 11:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
> 
> 
> >I posted a message on the 1st, but it never showed up on SEL, so here it 
> >again.
> >
> > I ran my 4hp (large version) Lorenz for a few minutes on the 1st. It's 
> > the one engine I have where I can walk into the barn and within a few 
> > seconds have it running. Almost always starts on the first pull of the 
> > flywheel which is to trip the magneto.
> >
> > I've got other engines that would also start easy, but they all need 
> > batteries and coils hooked up and I don't keep batteries with the engines. 
> > Plus they also would need some fuel as I don't keep gas in their tanks as 
> > well.
> >
> > The old trusty Lorenz is the one I keep gas in just in case I want to run 
> > a engine for myself or to show to a visitor.
> >
> > This is the second oldest Lorenz that I know of in the USA.
> > I'm sure Arnie could quickly confirm this or not with that Lorenz registry 
> > he maintains so well. ;-)
> >
> > There is a youtube clip I posted 3 years ago of this engine running, just 
> > search for "4hp Lorenz". Can't post the youtube link at the moment, since 
> > I'm at work and youtube is one of the many sites they block access to from 
> > work. Wonder why? ;-)
> >
> > George
> >
> >
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From jlb94 at juno.com  Mon Jan  4 16:54:33 2010
From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 00:54:33 GMT
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <20100104.195433.25314.3@webmail14.vgs.untd.com>

Hi Tom,
Yes - THat's the one I didn't get.
I got the one from old-Iron though.
Plus - I tried to send out a thread about a week ago and got a message that I wasn't a subscriber.   I'm glad that message went out.  At least this time it didn't bounce back.


Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
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,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
\/)"(\/       
(_o_)    "Man will bury himself in plastic"
      
                


---------- Original Message ----------
From: Germoamer at aol.com
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: Re: [SEL] Test
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 15:22:44 EST

Joe,

I got my monthly reminder the other day with the below text:

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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Jan  4 17:59:09 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 20:59:09 -0500
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>,
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>,
	<BLU0-SMTP330A36446E6A13EA2B776197740@phx.gbl>
	<COL112-W2295A582BF4DDBC030DA0E95730@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <005b01ca8daa$ab7eefa0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

and oddly enough, the 4 Lorenz engines Harry and I just brought over are 
serial numbers 101,102,103 and 104.  Is this good that they are so old 
Arnie?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Royster" <steve_royster at hotmail.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??


>
> Larry ,  the registry was once open for all to seen and enjoy, until one 
> day I send in pics and numbers for my Lorenz........ At that point  the 
> keeper of the registry realized my Lorenz was the fairest of them all, 
> even prettier than Sophia....... then the registry disappeared into 
> invisibleness so no longer could anyone see that grand registry or my 
> beautiful engine.  so so sad.  Maybe we should start a counter list! My 
> brother got a copy of Arnies notes that day he slept through Belgium and 
> most of Holland.  ps keep this under your hat,  Steve
>
>> From: langer5 at sympatico.ca
>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:15 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
>>
>> George - that Lorenz of yours is sure a sweet running machine. - - As far
>> as the well maintained Lorenz registry produced and published by that
>> infamous European traveler Arnie, well I have searched high and low and 
>> have
>> determined that he has written all those many pages in invisible ink. I 
>> did
>> see with my own eyes, hour upon hour of dedicated time, to climbing over,
>> around, under, and through all kinds of rusty memorabilia with pen and
>> notebook in hand supposedly making known to the engine collectors of the
>> world the long awaited information from the Data plates of these great 
>> Czech
>> engines. But Alas, is the year 2010 going to be another year where we
>> wait!!!!! and wait!!!!! and wait!!!! only to be disappointed yet 
>> again??????
>>
>> Larry Anger
>> 163926 Brownsville Rd.
>> R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario
>> Canada N4G 4G8
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Best, George" <George_Best at adp.com>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 11:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
>>
>>
>> >I posted a message on the 1st, but it never showed up on SEL, so here it
>> >again.
>> >
>> > I ran my 4hp (large version) Lorenz for a few minutes on the 1st. It's
>> > the one engine I have where I can walk into the barn and within a few
>> > seconds have it running. Almost always starts on the first pull of the
>> > flywheel which is to trip the magneto.
>> >
>> > I've got other engines that would also start easy, but they all need
>> > batteries and coils hooked up and I don't keep batteries with the 
>> > engines.
>> > Plus they also would need some fuel as I don't keep gas in their tanks 
>> > as
>> > well.
>> >
>> > The old trusty Lorenz is the one I keep gas in just in case I want to 
>> > run
>> > a engine for myself or to show to a visitor.
>> >
>> > This is the second oldest Lorenz that I know of in the USA.
>> > I'm sure Arnie could quickly confirm this or not with that Lorenz 
>> > registry
>> > he maintains so well. ;-)
>> >
>> > There is a youtube clip I posted 3 years ago of this engine running, 
>> > just
>> > search for "4hp Lorenz". Can't post the youtube link at the moment, 
>> > since
>> > I'm at work and youtube is one of the many sites they block access to 
>> > from
>> > work. Wonder why? ;-)
>> >
>> > George
>> >
>> >
>> > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the
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>> > confidential.
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>> > notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly
>> > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please
>> > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any 
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>> > from your system.
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From jneth3 at mac.com  Mon Jan  4 18:16:49 2010
From: jneth3 at mac.com (John Neth)
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:16:49 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Re:  New Years crankup ??
In-Reply-To: <90b8de78ba15ff304ef2a4680c1e36b3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
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One of the few arcade games I was good at.  Took grandkids to Chucky Cheese in MD last week hoping to play a little.  All they had was an electronic version.  No fun at all.  Wacking that mole is a lot more fun than taping a lit button.  Got to find one of those that is still working.  Still need to make time to get one or two of my fathers engines cranking.  Wanted to have them all ready for this new years but didn't make it.  Maybe next year.

John

John W. Neth III

228 Old Milligan Highway
Johnson City, TN  37601
423-434-0978




 
On Monday, January 04, 2010, at 02:30PM, "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
>Ever play Whac-A-Mole?  8-))
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whac-A-Mole
>
>On Mon, January 4, 2010 2:02 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:
>> On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>>> Keeper of the Secret Lorenz & Benz Engine Registry
>>
>> You seem to be getting slow in your old age.
>> Youthful Arnie never would have poked his head
>> up long enough to allow for such a clean shot.
>
>
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Jan  4 19:04:03 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 22:04:03 -0500
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <002601ca8db3$bec5fff0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Now wait a minute, I think you guys are too hard on Arnie.  I like to think 
of him as my benchmark of "slackness."  Just the other day it occurred to me 
that I have had a very original 1.5hp Novo sitting on my workbench for 
several years and the last time I saw it run was when my brother Steve 
leaned into the spark plug as he was trying to crank it and it lit him up so 
good he danced around the shop cussing up a storm.  Then I'll be darned if 
he didn't lean into it again on the nest round and I thought he was 
reenacting the scene from "The Green Mile" where they lit up the prisoner in 
the electric chair.  I still see him dancing and shouting to this day.  Ahh, 
memories.  Oh, back to Arnie.  So anyway, last Fri I put it all back 
together, took it outside and ran it for the New Years day crank up in 
Arnie's honor.  After all, if I can have something in pieces for years and 
still beat, "The Yank Returns" or the restoration of the "Fero Compressor" 
or the "Lorenz Registry",  then I at least am "not as slack as Arnie." 
Isn't that the universal cry of engine men and women everywhere?  Every Sat 
morning all over the world we as a group are putting things together and 
making them run, and in the back of our minds you are repressing yelling 
out, "by Ned, at least I am not as slack as Arnie."  Once again cementing 
the common bond we all share, that no matter how bad it gets, when we run 
out of money, injure yourself on a cord or cordless drill, or you just put 
it off a bit, you always have the luxury of saying, "at least I'm not as 
slack as Arnie."  Well gentlemen and ladies, I don't take that luxury 
lightly or for granted.  So here's to you Arnie, a toast to the Potentate of 
Procrastinators, the Emperor of Excuses.  You my friend, make us all look 
just a little bit better and I for one say thank you, oh Sultan of 
Slackness!!!!

MR
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Skinner" <rob at rustyiron.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??


> On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>>
>> Arnie Fero
>> Pittsburgh, PA
>> Keeper of the Secret Lorenz & Benz Engine Registry
>
> Plan A:  OS X comes with iWeb, a fairly capable web page editor.
> Plan B:  Bevmo accepts online orders and can ship Pimms to the UK.
> Plan C:  Sell your Lorenz and start a Briggs & Stratton registry.
>
> Rob
>
> P.S.
> You seem to be getting slow in your old age.
> Youthful Arnie never would have poked his head
> up long enough to allow for such a clean shot.
>
>
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Jan  4 19:05:51 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 22:05:51 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Re:  New Years crankup ??
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com><90b8de78ba15ff304ef2a4680c1e36b3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<20441716316909560616508089142741822255-Webmail@me.com>
Message-ID: <002d01ca8db4$0032cf40$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Don't you worry John, you will still beat Arnie no matter when you finish! 
:)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Neth" <jneth3 at mac.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Spam> Re: New Years crankup ??


> One of the few arcade games I was good at.  Took grandkids to Chucky 
> Cheese in MD last week hoping to play a little.  All they had was an 
> electronic version.  No fun at all.  Wacking that mole is a lot more fun 
> than taping a lit button.  Got to find one of those that is still working. 
> Still need to make time to get one or two of my fathers engines cranking. 
> Wanted to have them all ready for this new years but didn't make it. 
> Maybe next year.
>
> John
>
> John W. Neth III
>
> 228 Old Milligan Highway
> Johnson City, TN  37601
> 423-434-0978
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 04, 2010, at 02:30PM, "Arnie Fero" 
> <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
>>Ever play Whac-A-Mole?  8-))
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whac-A-Mole
>>
>>On Mon, January 4, 2010 2:02 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:
>>> On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>>>> Keeper of the Secret Lorenz & Benz Engine Registry
>>>
>>> You seem to be getting slow in your old age.
>>> Youthful Arnie never would have poked his head
>>> up long enough to allow for such a clean shot.
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Mon Jan  4 20:08:29 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 15:08:29 +1100
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com>
	<002601ca8db3$bec5fff0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <0FFF63BBC70B4038A2673E9428EEF791@regpc>

Bugger you Mike! Another keyboard stuffed!!
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle. NSW. Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Royster" <mr at carolina.rr.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??


> Now wait a minute, I think you guys are too hard on Arnie.  I like to 
> think
> of him as my benchmark of "slackness."  Just the other day it occurred to 
> me
> that I have had a very original 1.5hp Novo sitting on my workbench for
> several years and the last time I saw it run was when my brother Steve
> leaned into the spark plug as he was trying to crank it and it lit him up 
> so
> good he danced around the shop cussing up a storm.  Then I'll be darned if
> he didn't lean into it again on the nest round and I thought he was
> reenacting the scene from "The Green Mile" where they lit up the prisoner 
> in
> the electric chair.  I still see him dancing and shouting to this day. 
> Ahh,
> memories.  Oh, back to Arnie.  So anyway, last Fri I put it all back
> together, took it outside and ran it for the New Years day crank up in
> Arnie's honor.  After all, if I can have something in pieces for years and
> still beat, "The Yank Returns" or the restoration of the "Fero Compressor"
> or the "Lorenz Registry",  then I at least am "not as slack as Arnie."
> Isn't that the universal cry of engine men and women everywhere?  Every 
> Sat
> morning all over the world we as a group are putting things together and
> making them run, and in the back of our minds you are repressing yelling
> out, "by Ned, at least I am not as slack as Arnie."  Once again cementing
> the common bond we all share, that no matter how bad it gets, when we run
> out of money, injure yourself on a cord or cordless drill, or you just put
> it off a bit, you always have the luxury of saying, "at least I'm not as
> slack as Arnie."  Well gentlemen and ladies, I don't take that luxury
> lightly or for granted.  So here's to you Arnie, a toast to the Potentate 
> of
> Procrastinators, the Emperor of Excuses.  You my friend, make us all look
> just a little bit better and I for one say thank you, oh Sultan of
> Slackness!!!!
>
> MR
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rob Skinner" <rob at rustyiron.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
>
>
>> On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>>>
>>> Arnie Fero
>>> Pittsburgh, PA
>>> Keeper of the Secret Lorenz & Benz Engine Registry
>>
>> Plan A:  OS X comes with iWeb, a fairly capable web page editor.
>> Plan B:  Bevmo accepts online orders and can ship Pimms to the UK.
>> Plan C:  Sell your Lorenz and start a Briggs & Stratton registry.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> P.S.
>> You seem to be getting slow in your old age.
>> Youthful Arnie never would have poked his head
>> up long enough to allow for such a clean shot.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue Jan  5 04:54:19 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 07:54:19 EST
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
Message-ID: <cf7.6c6267ee.3874907b@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 1/4/2010 10:07:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
mr at carolina.rr.com writes:

So  here's to you Arnie, a toast to the Potentate of 
Procrastinators, the  Emperor of Excuses.


Seems that the winter doldrums have arrived with gusto!  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com



From George_Best at adp.com  Tue Jan  5 10:00:43 2010
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 12:00:43 -0600
Subject: [SEL] OT: Sultan of Slackness
In-Reply-To: <002601ca8db3$bec5fff0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com>
	<002601ca8db3$bec5fff0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3407DEF0@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Mike,

We all appreciate Arnie's legendary procrastination skills. I even admit to having used him as an example to make my own procrastination look trivial.  I have unfinished projects in both engines and tractors that I seem to never find time to work on.  Thanks to Arnie, I don't feel the need to complete them.

Unfortunately, Arnie does find time to read these postings and most likely we have only encouraged him to seek even higher levels of procrastination.  The Lorenz Registry is surely doomed now.

George
  

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mike Royster
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 7:04 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??

Now wait a minute, I think you guys are too hard on Arnie.  I like to think 
of him as my benchmark of "slackness."  Just the other day it occurred to me 
that I have had a very original 1.5hp Novo sitting on my workbench for 
several years and the last time I saw it run was when my brother Steve 
leaned into the spark plug as he was trying to crank it and it lit him up so 
good he danced around the shop cussing up a storm.  Then I'll be darned if 
he didn't lean into it again on the nest round and I thought he was 
reenacting the scene from "The Green Mile" where they lit up the prisoner in 
the electric chair.  I still see him dancing and shouting to this day.  Ahh, 
memories.  Oh, back to Arnie.  So anyway, last Fri I put it all back 
together, took it outside and ran it for the New Years day crank up in 
Arnie's honor.  After all, if I can have something in pieces for years and 
still beat, "The Yank Returns" or the restoration of the "Fero Compressor" 
or the "Lorenz Registry",  then I at least am "not as slack as Arnie." 
Isn't that the universal cry of engine men and women everywhere?  Every Sat 
morning all over the world we as a group are putting things together and 
making them run, and in the back of our minds you are repressing yelling 
out, "by Ned, at least I am not as slack as Arnie."  Once again cementing 
the common bond we all share, that no matter how bad it gets, when we run 
out of money, injure yourself on a cord or cordless drill, or you just put 
it off a bit, you always have the luxury of saying, "at least I'm not as 
slack as Arnie."  Well gentlemen and ladies, I don't take that luxury 
lightly or for granted.  So here's to you Arnie, a toast to the Potentate of 
Procrastinators, the Emperor of Excuses.  You my friend, make us all look 
just a little bit better and I for one say thank you, oh Sultan of 
Slackness!!!!

MR


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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Jan  5 10:27:14 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:27:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] OT: Sultan of Slackness
In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3407DEF0@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com>
	<002601ca8db3$bec5fff0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3407DEF0@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
Message-ID: <a433d2d2579872df0215a2159e66af39.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

How did Mel Brooks put it?  "Its GOOD to be da king."

BTW, I like the sound of that; "Sultan of Slackness."
Does this mean I get a Portland harem of my own like Dave's?
http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/portland2001/people/davesharem.jpg
http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/portland03/sel/davesharem2.jpg
http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/usa05/portland/60.jpg

See ya,  Arnie

On Tue, January 5, 2010 1:00 pm, Best, George wrote:
> We all appreciate Arnie's legendary procrastination skills. I even admit to having
> used him as an example to make my own procrastination look trivial.  I have
> unfinished projects in both engines and tractors that I seem to never find time to
> work on.  Thanks to Arnie, I don't feel the need to complete them.
>
> Unfortunately, Arnie does find time to read these postings and most likely we have
> only encouraged him to seek even higher levels of procrastination.  The Lorenz
> Registry is surely doomed now.





From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  5 10:58:43 2010
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:58:43 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT: Sultan of Slackness
In-Reply-To: <a433d2d2579872df0215a2159e66af39.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	<F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com>,
	<002601ca8db3$bec5fff0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>,
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3407DEF0@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>,
	<a433d2d2579872df0215a2159e66af39.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <COL112-W227FE5F7CCBC8BFEE9466795730@phx.gbl>


Arnie, My Man, you'll get your harem at Portland allright, but you need to think more like the Ladies of Salamonia Diner  instead of the quality of Dave's ladies!  Sackness does have it's own rewards!  Steve

 

 


 
> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:27:14 -0500
> From: fero_ah at city-net.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Sultan of Slackness
> 
> How did Mel Brooks put it? "Its GOOD to be da king."
> 
> BTW, I like the sound of that; "Sultan of Slackness."
> Does this mean I get a Portland harem of my own like Dave's?
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/portland2001/people/davesharem.jpg
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/portland03/sel/davesharem2.jpg
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/usa05/portland/60.jpg
> 
> See ya, Arnie
> 
> On Tue, January 5, 2010 1:00 pm, Best, George wrote:
> > We all appreciate Arnie's legendary procrastination skills. I even admit to having
> > used him as an example to make my own procrastination look trivial. I have
> > unfinished projects in both engines and tractors that I seem to never find time to
> > work on. Thanks to Arnie, I don't feel the need to complete them.
> >
> > Unfortunately, Arnie does find time to read these postings and most likely we have
> > only encouraged him to seek even higher levels of procrastination. The Lorenz
> > Registry is surely doomed now.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  
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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Tue Jan  5 12:06:56 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 07:06:56 +1100
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
References: <cf7.6c6267ee.3874907b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <28E7523D995948FD8FA685988BCEC782@regpc>

Hey, ya still got the onset of Cabin Fever to come!
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle. NSW. Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Germoamer at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??


> 
> In a message dated 1/4/2010 10:07:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
> mr at carolina.rr.com writes:
> 
> So  here's to you Arnie, a toast to the Potentate of 
> Procrastinators, the  Emperor of Excuses.
> 
> 
> Seems that the winter doldrums have arrived with gusto!  
> 
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord,  Va.
> germoamer at AOL.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From mr at carolina.rr.com  Tue Jan  5 14:29:20 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 17:29:20 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT: Sultan of Slackness
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com><002601ca8db3$bec5fff0$0201a8c0@mikecomp><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3407DEF0@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<a433d2d2579872df0215a2159e66af39.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <001c01ca8e56$86967760$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Sure it does, as soon as you get around to organizing the sign up sheet!!!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Sultan of Slackness


> How did Mel Brooks put it?  "Its GOOD to be da king."
>
> BTW, I like the sound of that; "Sultan of Slackness."
> Does this mean I get a Portland harem of my own like Dave's?
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/portland2001/people/davesharem.jpg
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/portland03/sel/davesharem2.jpg
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/usa05/portland/60.jpg
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> On Tue, January 5, 2010 1:00 pm, Best, George wrote:
>> We all appreciate Arnie's legendary procrastination skills. I even admit 
>> to having
>> used him as an example to make my own procrastination look trivial.  I 
>> have
>> unfinished projects in both engines and tractors that I seem to never 
>> find time to
>> work on.  Thanks to Arnie, I don't feel the need to complete them.
>>
>> Unfortunately, Arnie does find time to read these postings and most 
>> likely we have
>> only encouraged him to seek even higher levels of procrastination.  The 
>> Lorenz
>> Registry is surely doomed now.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From swebre at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  5 17:48:17 2010
From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:48:17 +0000
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 70, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1262710802.2087.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
References: <mailman.0.1262710802.2087.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <SNT125-W60CB79477F2D40D9135AFDB720@phx.gbl>


Hey Arnie!! 

How much more can you take?  :)

-Steve- 



--Forwarded Message Attachment--
From: mr at carolina.rr.com
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 22:04:03 -0500
Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??

Now wait a minute, I think you guys are too hard on Arnie.  I like to think 
of him as my benchmark of "slackness."  Just the other day it occurred to me 
that I have had a very original 1.5hp Novo sitting on my workbench for 
several years and the last time I saw it run was when my brother Steve 
leaned into the spark plug as he was trying to crank it and it lit him up so 
good he danced around the shop cussing up a storm.  Then I'll be darned if 
he didn't lean into it again on the nest round and I thought he was 
reenacting the scene from "The Green Mile" where they lit up the prisoner in 
the electric chair.  I still see him dancing and shouting to this day.  Ahh, 
memories.  Oh, back to Arnie.  So anyway, last Fri I put it all back 
together, took it outside and ran it for the New Years day crank up in 
Arnie's honor.  After all, if I can have something in pieces for years and 
still beat, "The Yank Returns" or the restoration of the "Fero Compressor" 
or the "Lorenz Registry",  then I at least am "not as slack as Arnie." 
Isn't that the universal cry of engine men and women everywhere?  Every Sat 
morning all over the world we as a group are putting things together and 
making them run, and in the back of our minds you are repressing yelling 
out, "by Ned, at least I am not as slack as Arnie."  Once again cementing 
the common bond we all share, that no matter how bad it gets, when we run 
out of money, injure yourself on a cord or cordless drill, or you just put 
it off a bit, you always have the luxury of saying, "at least I'm not as 
slack as Arnie."  Well gentlemen and ladies, I don't take that luxury 
lightly or for granted.  So here's to you Arnie, a toast to the Potentate of 
Procrastinators, the Emperor of Excuses.  You my friend, make us all look 
just a little bit better and I for one say thank you, oh Sultan of 
Slackness!!!!
 
MR
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Skinner" <rob at rustyiron.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
 
 
> On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>>
>> Arnie Fero
>> Pittsburgh, PA
>> Keeper of the Secret Lorenz & Benz Engine Registry
>
> Plan A:  OS X comes with iWeb, a fairly capable web page editor.
> Plan B:  Bevmo accepts online orders and can ship Pimms to the UK.
> Plan C:  Sell your Lorenz and start a Briggs & Stratton registry.
>
> Rob
>
> P.S.
> You seem to be getting slow in your old age.
> Youthful Arnie never would have poked his head
> up long enough to allow for such a clean shot.
>
 
 		 	   		  

From jd.kirkes at verizon.net  Wed Jan  6 02:37:10 2010
From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes)
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:37:10 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Marv Hedburg
Message-ID: <FB4ECA04867A40EF94E6006BC6821A10@Desktop>

Does anybody have a current email address for Marv?

Jim 

Jim and Diane Kirkes
jd.kirkes at verizon.net


From asouth42 at embarqmail.com  Wed Jan  6 05:22:13 2010
From: asouth42 at embarqmail.com (Arthur Southwell)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 08:22:13 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T. 7.3L Ford Diesel
Message-ID: <PLEDKPBKJICPFJKIOMLFOEBFCGAA.asouth42@embarqmail.com>

Hello list(s)

Several folks on the list have Ford 7.3L Diesels and from time to time have
little problems and ask for opinions or help. Here's a money saving tip for
you who can do your known repairs.

Monday we had a little cold snap here in mid-Florida. Thirty-one degrees F.
I waited until things warmed up a bit, 36F, then drove three miles to the
Court House to turn in a lic. tag. When I returned to the parking lot, I
noticed a rather large puddle under my truck. I knew I hadn't been running
the A/C, so it couldn't be good news. And it wasn't; it was diesel fuel. I
sped back to the shop and popped the hood. Investigation lead to a leaking
drain valve on the fuel filter.

I called Ford Parts Dept. and was informed that it is common for the valve
to leak during a cold snap an the fix was a complete new valve assembly. I
asked the price and almost spit out my teeth. My cost was $51.75 with a list
of $75 and change. They told me they had sold 4 valves that morning and were
out of stock for a few days.

 That turned out to be good luck for me.

I had looked in the shop manual at an Illustration of the fuel filter body
assembly and knew there were two "O" rings tom seal the valve body to the
filter can. Of course F-O-R-D doesn't sell the "O" rings.

I removed the valve for a look-see. I noticed the "O" ring was thick and
almost a "square cut" outside and the inside hole was beveled on both sides.
I cleaned off the flaking yellow dye coating, turned the "O" rings over.
This made the "O" ring "stand" off a few thousandths and I knew it would
seal against the "ball" on the spool valve. I removed the "spool" valve,
removed the "O" ring and replaces it with a common xxx108 "O" ring and
reassembled the valve and re-installed the valve on the filter can. Walla,
no leaking fuel and I'm $51.00 better off.

I hope this little bit of information will help one of you some day if your
valve goes to leaking.

C'ya,

Arthur Southwell
Arthur Southwell Repair
Arthur Southwell Rebuilding
Arcadia, FL 34266 USA

Asouth42 at embarqmail.com



From edurand at mchsi.com  Wed Jan  6 07:00:53 2010
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 09:00:53 -0600
Subject: [SEL] O.T. 7.3L Ford Diesel
In-Reply-To: <PLEDKPBKJICPFJKIOMLFOEBFCGAA.asouth42@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBKEMBIJAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

'Ya done good, Art!

I always like it when I can repair something and "cheat the junk man".

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Arthur
> Southwell
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 07:22 AM
> To: 
> antique-johndeere-request at lists.antique-tractor.co
> m; ATIS-SEL;
> antique-tractor at atis.net; Antique Tractor List; 
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> Subject: [SEL] O.T. 7.3L Ford Diesel




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Wed Jan  6 11:59:45 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 06:59:45 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Marv Hedburg
References: <FB4ECA04867A40EF94E6006BC6821A10@Desktop>
Message-ID: <07C7A137FB4E4945A690DF8FFA892C56@regpc>

Here is what I have.
  marvhed at gmail.com


Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle. NSW. Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

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Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 9:37 PM
Subject: [SEL] Marv Hedburg


> Does anybody have a current email address for Marv?
>
> Jim
>
> Jim and Diane Kirkes
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From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Thu Jan  7 05:06:49 2010
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:06:49 -0000
Subject: [SEL] Tongue in cheek mechanical education
Message-ID: <46120880E65E4417BE3A13D30B502AFA@zen>

The Turbo-Encabulator
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXW0bx_Ooq4
For these cold days. 8^)
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv


From edurand at mchsi.com  Thu Jan  7 08:25:14 2010
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:25:14 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Tongue in cheek mechanical education
In-Reply-To: <46120880E65E4417BE3A13D30B502AFA@zen>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBKEMHIJAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Wow!  I need to get one of those Turbo-Encabulators for the 2009 Algore Edition Green Hybrid Hoyt-Clagwell!

I think, though, that I will include a transluctance bicromulator and indicating lamp (kerosene fueled) to make it more interesting to the user.

Ahhh.  Ain't science teriffic!

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
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>  Behalf Of Dave Croft
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 07:07 AM
> To: atis
> Cc: Oldengine.org
> Subject: [SEL] Tongue in cheek mechanical education
> 
> 
> The Turbo-Encabulator
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXW0bx_Ooq4
> For these cold days. 8^)
> Dave Croft




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Jan  9 08:42:41 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 11:42:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Sultan of Slackness
Message-ID: <a27a006481a9642173c270d6e7d3af81.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

George's post got me to thinking (as many of his posts do).

Now I'm guessing that I'm more like most of the folks on the
list in terms of having a "projects list" that will probably
outlast me.  And it has a couple of projects that can surely
be considered "vintage" as they've been "on the list" as long
as I've been in the hobby.

So, the thread topic for a cold winter day with the snow
drifting ever higher against the shed, what are the "vintage
projects" on YOUR projects list?  These are those projects that,
like fine wine or good cheese, just get better and better the
longer they sit.  I'll start out with a couple of mine...

I'd been a fan of old engines for years before I got my first
piece of rusty old iron.  That first project was a really sad
old two-cylinder duplex water pump that I got at auction for
$10 back in 1994.  That's what started the acquiring phase
of my participation in the hobby.

That ol' water pump is STILL on the list; but it is NEARLY done.
She's all restored, painted, and fully functional.  All she
lacks now are some long high-crown hex bolts to finish her off.
And the hex stock is even sitting on the bench by the lathe.

My first engine was a 1-1/2 HP IHC "M" that I bought in 1996.
The seller ran it for me by putting some gas in the mixer bowl.
After I got it home, I cleaned it well and decided to build a
proper "M" cart.  That project took a while and when finished
I decided to give the "M" a good run.  Poured gas in the tank
and it ran out the bottom faster than it was going in.  I decided
that tank replacement was a job for "another day" and the engine
went under the bench (and became the second entry on the "vintage"
list.  That one finally came off the list when I converted the
engine to propane and hot tube ignition in time for the 2006
Coolspring show.  She's been a regular at shows ever since.

My second engine is STILL on the projects list.  This is a 3-1/2 HP
United, TG kero burner.  That was a 1996 auction purchase that
had been "cobbled" to high tension ignition by a previous owner.
I decided to restore it to original features.  The bronze body
mag was a pricy hunt and the ignitor was also a lengthy hunt.
I'm currently "working" on the plumbing for the fuel system, the
two compartment tank, and building the ignitor trip linkage.
One day she'll be a runner...  8-))

So, how 'bout you?  Have you got any of those "vintage" projects
on YOUR list that just keep getting better with age?  Don't be
shy, you're NOT alone!

See ya,  Arnie

Arnie Fero
Pittsburgh, PA
fero_ah at city-net.com

> On Tue, January 5, 2010 1:00 pm, Best, George wrote:
>> We all appreciate Arnie's legendary procrastination skills. I even admit to having
>> used him as an example to make my own procrastination look trivial.  I have
>> unfinished projects in both engines and tractors that I seem to never find time to
>> work on.  Thanks to Arnie, I don't feel the need to complete them.
>>
>> Unfortunately, Arnie does find time to read these postings and most likely we have
>> only encouraged him to seek even higher levels of procrastination.  The Lorenz
>> Registry is surely doomed now.
>




From langer5 at sympatico.ca  Sat Jan  9 09:47:59 2010
From: langer5 at sympatico.ca (Larry Anger)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 12:47:59 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Sultan of Slackness
References: <a27a006481a9642173c270d6e7d3af81.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP79FA3673ADE4E9EE8E0B5A976F0@phx.gbl>

Arnie - Sorry to say but I am much much worse off than you. I have a whole 
barn full of projects that I just can't seem to find the time to get to. The 
biggest project I guess is a 20HP Reid that I have been hoping to get to our 
local show for years but just haven't quite got it finished yet. It has to 
have a dedicated trailer which is still a long way from finished. I really 
don't think if I lived to be 200 I'd be finished the list.

Larry Anger
163926 Brownsville Rd.
R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario
Canada N4G 4G8
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Sultan of Slackness


> George's post got me to thinking (as many of his posts do).
>
> Now I'm guessing that I'm more like most of the folks on the
> list in terms of having a "projects list" that will probably
> outlast me.  And it has a couple of projects that can surely
> be considered "vintage" as they've been "on the list" as long
> as I've been in the hobby.
>
> So, the thread topic for a cold winter day with the snow
> drifting ever higher against the shed, what are the "vintage
> projects" on YOUR projects list?  These are those projects that,
> like fine wine or good cheese, just get better and better the
> longer they sit.  I'll start out with a couple of mine...
>
> I'd been a fan of old engines for years before I got my first
> piece of rusty old iron.  That first project was a really sad
> old two-cylinder duplex water pump that I got at auction for
> $10 back in 1994.  That's what started the acquiring phase
> of my participation in the hobby.
>
> That ol' water pump is STILL on the list; but it is NEARLY done.
> She's all restored, painted, and fully functional.  All she
> lacks now are some long high-crown hex bolts to finish her off.
> And the hex stock is even sitting on the bench by the lathe.
>
> My first engine was a 1-1/2 HP IHC "M" that I bought in 1996.
> The seller ran it for me by putting some gas in the mixer bowl.
> After I got it home, I cleaned it well and decided to build a
> proper "M" cart.  That project took a while and when finished
> I decided to give the "M" a good run.  Poured gas in the tank
> and it ran out the bottom faster than it was going in.  I decided
> that tank replacement was a job for "another day" and the engine
> went under the bench (and became the second entry on the "vintage"
> list.  That one finally came off the list when I converted the
> engine to propane and hot tube ignition in time for the 2006
> Coolspring show.  She's been a regular at shows ever since.
>
> My second engine is STILL on the projects list.  This is a 3-1/2 HP
> United, TG kero burner.  That was a 1996 auction purchase that
> had been "cobbled" to high tension ignition by a previous owner.
> I decided to restore it to original features.  The bronze body
> mag was a pricy hunt and the ignitor was also a lengthy hunt.
> I'm currently "working" on the plumbing for the fuel system, the
> two compartment tank, and building the ignitor trip linkage.
> One day she'll be a runner...  8-))
>
> So, how 'bout you?  Have you got any of those "vintage" projects
> on YOUR list that just keep getting better with age?  Don't be
> shy, you're NOT alone!
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> Arnie Fero
> Pittsburgh, PA
> fero_ah at city-net.com
>
>> On Tue, January 5, 2010 1:00 pm, Best, George wrote:
>>> We all appreciate Arnie's legendary procrastination skills. I even admit 
>>> to having
>>> used him as an example to make my own procrastination look trivial.  I 
>>> have
>>> unfinished projects in both engines and tractors that I seem to never 
>>> find time to
>>> work on.  Thanks to Arnie, I don't feel the need to complete them.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, Arnie does find time to read these postings and most 
>>> likely we have
>>> only encouraged him to seek even higher levels of procrastination.  The 
>>> Lorenz
>>> Registry is surely doomed now.
>>
>
>
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From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Sat Jan  9 11:20:12 2010
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 14:20:12 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Sultan of Slackness
In-Reply-To: <a27a006481a9642173c270d6e7d3af81.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <a27a006481a9642173c270d6e7d3af81.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <COL112-W371CDB3BD7D47EF0A30840956F0@phx.gbl>


Arnie, The shop is full of unfinished projects but engineprojects, lets see.... There is the 6hp Foos waiting on a cart to go under it. There is the 6hp Gade needing new fuel lines
There is the 3 hp Stickney that need the paint stripped off it and the fuel pump castings machined. And  now the 2hp National is disassembled all over the shop and slowly going back together as each rusty part comes out of the electrolysis bucket.  Oh I forgot about the Samson waiting to be put back together after its sailing voyage last month.   But I'll be done by Coolspring in June!   Steve

 

 

 

 
> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 11:42:41 -0500
> From: fero_ah at city-net.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Sultan of Slackness
> 
> George's post got me to thinking (as many of his posts do).
> 
> Now I'm guessing that I'm more like most of the folks on the
> list in terms of having a "projects list" that will probably
> outlast me. And it has a couple of projects that can surely
> be considered "vintage" as they've been "on the list" as long
> as I've been in the hobby.
> 
> So, the thread topic for a cold winter day with the snow
> drifting ever higher against the shed, what are the "vintage
> projects" on YOUR projects list? These are those projects that,
> like fine wine or good cheese, just get better and better the
> longer they sit. I'll start out with a couple of mine...
> 
> I'd been a fan of old engines for years before I got my first
> piece of rusty old iron. That first project was a really sad
> old two-cylinder duplex water pump that I got at auction for
> $10 back in 1994. That's what started the acquiring phase
> of my participation in the hobby.
> 
> That ol' water pump is STILL on the list; but it is NEARLY done.
> She's all restored, painted, and fully functional. All she
> lacks now are some long high-crown hex bolts to finish her off.
> And the hex stock is even sitting on the bench by the lathe.
> 
> My first engine was a 1-1/2 HP IHC "M" that I bought in 1996.
> The seller ran it for me by putting some gas in the mixer bowl.
> After I got it home, I cleaned it well and decided to build a
> proper "M" cart. That project took a while and when finished
> I decided to give the "M" a good run. Poured gas in the tank
> and it ran out the bottom faster than it was going in. I decided
> that tank replacement was a job for "another day" and the engine
> went under the bench (and became the second entry on the "vintage"
> list. That one finally came off the list when I converted the
> engine to propane and hot tube ignition in time for the 2006
> Coolspring show. She's been a regular at shows ever since.
> 
> My second engine is STILL on the projects list. This is a 3-1/2 HP
> United, TG kero burner. That was a 1996 auction purchase that
> had been "cobbled" to high tension ignition by a previous owner.
> I decided to restore it to original features. The bronze body
> mag was a pricy hunt and the ignitor was also a lengthy hunt.
> I'm currently "working" on the plumbing for the fuel system, the
> two compartment tank, and building the ignitor trip linkage.
> One day she'll be a runner... 8-))
> 
> So, how 'bout you? Have you got any of those "vintage" projects
> on YOUR list that just keep getting better with age? Don't be
> shy, you're NOT alone!
> 
> See ya, Arnie
> 
> Arnie Fero
> Pittsburgh, PA
> fero_ah at city-net.com
> 
> > On Tue, January 5, 2010 1:00 pm, Best, George wrote:
> >> We all appreciate Arnie's legendary procrastination skills. I even admit to having
> >> used him as an example to make my own procrastination look trivial. I have
> >> unfinished projects in both engines and tractors that I seem to never find time to
> >> work on. Thanks to Arnie, I don't feel the need to complete them.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, Arnie does find time to read these postings and most likely we have
> >> only encouraged him to seek even higher levels of procrastination. The Lorenz
> >> Registry is surely doomed now.
> >
> 
> 
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From dombros2 at clearmail.com.au  Sat Jan  9 11:46:58 2010
From: dombros2 at clearmail.com.au (Ted & Sue Domeney)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 06:46:58 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Sultan of Slackness
Message-ID: <1238F72687654853B2E6D5661CE3CFA2@HOUSE>

Hey there
Does it have to be engines? This is OT, but here we go.
I married near on 44 years ago and moved from my Dad and Mum's house, to the original (Grandpa's) house on the farm.I started out on painting the house, which was a big wooden building going back to 1880.

30 years later, family grown and gone, my wife said "we're moving to your father's house". He and Mum had now passed on. I objected. We moved.

The old house still stands, painting still unfinished.

Teddy
(Sorry, no snow, warm, dry 70 to 80 degrees daily.)

From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat Jan  9 12:12:37 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 22:12:37 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Sultan of Slackness
In-Reply-To: <a27a006481a9642173c270d6e7d3af81.squirrel@webmail.city-net .com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100109212013.02806518@mail.atech.co.za>

Great Topic Arnie,
         Heres my story. As most of you know, I've only been involved in 
this hobby since about 2004 but had the interest for many years before 
that. I grew up on a farm and my Dad had a small Lister "D" coupled to a 32 
volt genny for lights in the house. I was at boarding school but during 
school holidays it was my job to start the engine every evening. That 
"doef, doef, doef" sound every night was as much a part of farm life as the 
squeaky windmill.

         I moved to the city but always longed for a Lister D to restore - 
just to be able to run it occasionally for the nostalgia. Then about 25 
years ago living in the suburbs finally got too much for me and I bought a 
smallholding about 30 miles from Johannesburg. The first thing I bought was 
a Massey Ferguson 35 tractor which was running but in bad condition - I 
restored it which was a pretty easy job, the most it needed apart from 
painting was a new clutch and wiring. (If you live in the country you've 
gotta have a tractor - not so). My Dad had farmed with MF 35 X's (the 
diesel version - mine was a petrol paraffin model).

         Then in about 1985 I found a Massey Harris Pony which I just had 
to have. It was complete (but painted grey) with its single furrow 
(manually operated) plough (plow) but not running. I brought it home as a 
"future project". I had a business in town and time was very short for 
hobby projects and it stood outdoors for nearly 20 years. I had many people 
enquiring to buy it during that time but it was "Not for sale!". I even 
earned the nickname Jerry "Not For Sale" Evans !!

         Horrors, I've just realised that I almost became a FATG !!

         Then in about 2004 I made the discovery that collecting vintage 
stationary engines and restoring them was a world wide phenomenon and very 
popular. I met a few local collectors and the bug bit - I caught the 
sickness for which there is no cure :-)

         I decided to get started on an engine or two purely as a precursor 
to restoring the Massey Harris Pony. Well the rest is history. I've done 
quite a few engines in that time and have more than 50 "future projects" in 
the shed most of which I will probably not get done in my lifetime (but 
they are safe from the scrappie there - that's my story and I'm sticking to 
it :-))

         Oh, and the Massey Harris Pony - well, it's still a future project 
but at least it is now under cover and on blocks - also safe from the 
scrappie. I have not removed one bolt or nut from it - it will remain that 
way until the day arrives (if ever) that I know that I can afford the money 
and time to start the project and see it through to completion. I have seen 
too many similar projects started by the unwary end up in boxes never to be 
completed. I have also, since acquired a Massey Harris Sunshine Harvester 
which will one day make a great display with the Pony but it's also a 
"future project" and also under cover - safe from the scrappie.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.

P.S. It's frightening to suddenly realise that I was so close to being a 
FATG :-)



At 06:42 PM 09/01/2010, you wrote:
>George's post got me to thinking (as many of his posts do).
>
>Now I'm guessing that I'm more like most of the folks on the
>list in terms of having a "projects list" that will probably
>outlast me.  And it has a couple of projects that can surely
>be considered "vintage" as they've been "on the list" as long
>as I've been in the hobby.
>
>So, the thread topic for a cold winter day with the snow
>drifting ever higher against the shed, what are the "vintage
>projects" on YOUR projects list?  These are those projects that,
>like fine wine or good cheese, just get better and better the
>longer they sit.  I'll start out with a couple of mine...
>
>I'd been a fan of old engines for years before I got my first
>piece of rusty old iron.  That first project was a really sad
>old two-cylinder duplex water pump that I got at auction for
>$10 back in 1994.  That's what started the acquiring phase
>of my participation in the hobby.
>
>That ol' water pump is STILL on the list; but it is NEARLY done.
>She's all restored, painted, and fully functional.  All she
>lacks now are some long high-crown hex bolts to finish her off.
>And the hex stock is even sitting on the bench by the lathe.
>
>My first engine was a 1-1/2 HP IHC "M" that I bought in 1996.
>The seller ran it for me by putting some gas in the mixer bowl.
>After I got it home, I cleaned it well and decided to build a
>proper "M" cart.  That project took a while and when finished
>I decided to give the "M" a good run.  Poured gas in the tank
>and it ran out the bottom faster than it was going in.  I decided
>that tank replacement was a job for "another day" and the engine
>went under the bench (and became the second entry on the "vintage"
>list.  That one finally came off the list when I converted the
>engine to propane and hot tube ignition in time for the 2006
>Coolspring show.  She's been a regular at shows ever since.
>
>My second engine is STILL on the projects list.  This is a 3-1/2 HP
>United, TG kero burner.  That was a 1996 auction purchase that
>had been "cobbled" to high tension ignition by a previous owner.
>I decided to restore it to original features.  The bronze body
>mag was a pricy hunt and the ignitor was also a lengthy hunt.
>I'm currently "working" on the plumbing for the fuel system, the
>two compartment tank, and building the ignitor trip linkage.
>One day she'll be a runner...  8-))
>
>So, how 'bout you?  Have you got any of those "vintage" projects
>on YOUR list that just keep getting better with age?  Don't be
>shy, you're NOT alone!
>
>See ya,  Arnie
>
>Arnie Fero
>Pittsburgh, PA
>fero_ah at city-net.com
>
> > On Tue, January 5, 2010 1:00 pm, Best, George wrote:
> >> We all appreciate Arnie's legendary procrastination skills. I even 
> admit to having
> >> used him as an example to make my own procrastination look trivial.  I 
> have
> >> unfinished projects in both engines and tractors that I seem to never 
> find time to
> >> work on.  Thanks to Arnie, I don't feel the need to complete them.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, Arnie does find time to read these postings and most 
> likely we have
> >> only encouraged him to seek even higher levels of 
> procrastination.  The Lorenz
> >> Registry is surely doomed now.
> >
>
>
>
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Sat Jan  9 12:25:27 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 15:25:27 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Sultan of Slackness
References: <a27a006481a9642173c270d6e7d3af81.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<COL112-W371CDB3BD7D47EF0A30840956F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <005501ca9169$e1b96e20$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Hmmm, let's see.  Paint the house this spring, remodel the upstairs 
bathroom, clean out the attic, rearrange my shop, put SEVERAL engines on 
carts, finish and engine or two, finish assembling the 4 Lorenz engines that 
just came across the pond, but it is 12 degrees out this am and they are in 
an unheated warehouse.  Dang, I have Fero Fever!!!!!!!

MR


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Royster" <steve_royster at hotmail.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Sultan of Slackness



Arnie, The shop is full of unfinished projects but engineprojects, lets 
see.... There is the 6hp Foos waiting on a cart to go under it. There is the 
6hp Gade needing new fuel lines
There is the 3 hp Stickney that need the paint stripped off it and the fuel 
pump castings machined. And  now the 2hp National is disassembled all over 
the shop and slowly going back together as each rusty part comes out of the 
electrolysis bucket.  Oh I forgot about the Samson waiting to be put back 
together after its sailing voyage last month.   But I'll be done by 
Coolspring in June!   Steve








> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 11:42:41 -0500
> From: fero_ah at city-net.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Sultan of Slackness
>
> George's post got me to thinking (as many of his posts do).
>
> Now I'm guessing that I'm more like most of the folks on the
> list in terms of having a "projects list" that will probably
> outlast me. And it has a couple of projects that can surely
> be considered "vintage" as they've been "on the list" as long
> as I've been in the hobby.
>
> So, the thread topic for a cold winter day with the snow
> drifting ever higher against the shed, what are the "vintage
> projects" on YOUR projects list? These are those projects that,
> like fine wine or good cheese, just get better and better the
> longer they sit. I'll start out with a couple of mine...
>
> I'd been a fan of old engines for years before I got my first
> piece of rusty old iron. That first project was a really sad
> old two-cylinder duplex water pump that I got at auction for
> $10 back in 1994. That's what started the acquiring phase
> of my participation in the hobby.
>
> That ol' water pump is STILL on the list; but it is NEARLY done.
> She's all restored, painted, and fully functional. All she
> lacks now are some long high-crown hex bolts to finish her off.
> And the hex stock is even sitting on the bench by the lathe.
>
> My first engine was a 1-1/2 HP IHC "M" that I bought in 1996.
> The seller ran it for me by putting some gas in the mixer bowl.
> After I got it home, I cleaned it well and decided to build a
> proper "M" cart. That project took a while and when finished
> I decided to give the "M" a good run. Poured gas in the tank
> and it ran out the bottom faster than it was going in. I decided
> that tank replacement was a job for "another day" and the engine
> went under the bench (and became the second entry on the "vintage"
> list. That one finally came off the list when I converted the
> engine to propane and hot tube ignition in time for the 2006
> Coolspring show. She's been a regular at shows ever since.
>
> My second engine is STILL on the projects list. This is a 3-1/2 HP
> United, TG kero burner. That was a 1996 auction purchase that
> had been "cobbled" to high tension ignition by a previous owner.
> I decided to restore it to original features. The bronze body
> mag was a pricy hunt and the ignitor was also a lengthy hunt.
> I'm currently "working" on the plumbing for the fuel system, the
> two compartment tank, and building the ignitor trip linkage.
> One day she'll be a runner... 8-))
>
> So, how 'bout you? Have you got any of those "vintage" projects
> on YOUR list that just keep getting better with age? Don't be
> shy, you're NOT alone!
>
> See ya, Arnie
>
> Arnie Fero
> Pittsburgh, PA
> fero_ah at city-net.com
>
> > On Tue, January 5, 2010 1:00 pm, Best, George wrote:
> >> We all appreciate Arnie's legendary procrastination skills. I even 
> >> admit to having
> >> used him as an example to make my own procrastination look trivial. I 
> >> have
> >> unfinished projects in both engines and tractors that I seem to never 
> >> find time to
> >> work on. Thanks to Arnie, I don't feel the need to complete them.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, Arnie does find time to read these postings and most 
> >> likely we have
> >> only encouraged him to seek even higher levels of procrastination. The 
> >> Lorenz
> >> Registry is surely doomed now.
> >
>
>
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From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com  Sun Jan 10 17:02:01 2010
From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 20:02:01 EST
Subject: [SEL] Crossley Engine
Message-ID: <cf6.6b947f44.387bd289@aol.com>

I have just bought a Crossley Type M engine with serial number   55302.  
Can any of you SEL members tell me when it was built and a little  history on 
the engine. 
Thank You
Kevin K 
 
BIGFLYWHEEL at AOL.COM


From rob at rustyiron.com  Mon Jan 11 15:36:01 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:36:01 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Crossley Engine
In-Reply-To: <cf6.6b947f44.387bd289@aol.com>
References: <cf6.6b947f44.387bd289@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6999519A-5E6B-47B5-9A59-C8463854C66E@rustyiron.com>

My guess would be about 1905.  If you send Geoff Challinor twenty  
quid, he'll have Margaret look it up in the book for you.

	
Rob Skinner
Antique Stationary Engines
La Habra, California

rob at rustyiron.com
www.rustyiron.com





On Jan 10, 2010, at 5:02 PM, BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote:

> I have just bought a Crossley Type M engine with serial number    
> 55302.
> Can any of you SEL members tell me when it was built and a little   
> history on
> the engine.



From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Mon Jan 11 19:06:47 2010
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:06:47 -0500
Subject: [SEL] A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?
Message-ID: <028a01ca9334$4792dcb0$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>

Well, I found another big engine to save!  

http://news.webshots.com/album/550717992EAkmQg

Donation of the engine is about 90% certain.  18' flywheel, approx. 100 ton total engine weight.  Its a little guy compared to the Tod.  Looking for volunteers for a second "Wrecking Crew".    Engine is located in Steubenville, OH and removal would begin in the spring.  It will be hauled to Youngstown and reassembled behind the Tod Engine, where it will forever be known as the "little engine"!

The engine was built approx. 1902 by Mesta Machine in Homestead, PA to drive a generator to provide the DC power for the Labelle Iron Works, later Wheeling Pittsburgh Steel.  Its probably been out of service for fifty years.  I discovered it in 2006 on a plant tour.  Imagine my surprise when I walked into the building to see a big flywheel looking back at me! 

Need help!  Arnie, Dave, can I sign you on as consultants?  We'll get some younger guys to wield the wrenches.

Rick Rowlands
Tod Engine Heritage Park
Youngstown, OH

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Jan 11 20:46:33 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:46:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?
In-Reply-To: <028a01ca9334$4792dcb0$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>
References: <028a01ca9334$4792dcb0$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>
Message-ID: <102f78076141ad6b946438b6ae0102be.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Damn Rick, when you add another engine to your collection, you might consider a
little one; maybe 1-1/2 hp?  8-))

NICE find!!  Here's hoping that you secure  the donation!!

See ya,  Arnie

On Mon, January 11, 2010 10:06 pm, Rick Rowlands wrote:
> Well, I found another big engine to save!
>
> http://news.webshots.com/album/550717992EAkmQg
>
> Donation of the engine is about 90% certain.  18' flywheel, approx. 100 ton total
> engine weight.  Its a little guy compared to the Tod.  Looking for volunteers for a
> second "Wrecking Crew".    Engine is located in Steubenville, OH and removal would
> begin in the spring.





From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Mon Jan 11 21:20:06 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:20:06 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Crossley Engine
In-Reply-To: <cf6.6b947f44.387bd289@aol.com>
Message-ID: <C77251B6.383D%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

Hi Kevin,
There was a Crossley M at the Sydney Rally in 2005. Some pics at:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc052.html



Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 12 00:42:17 2010
From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:42:17 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Crossley Engine
In-Reply-To: <cf6.6b947f44.387bd289@aol.com>
References: <cf6.6b947f44.387bd289@aol.com>
Message-ID: <SNT107-W13CE943BE5F0524BE82161D06C0@phx.gbl>


Kevin,I have an M No 45944 and it left the factory on 13-6-02.  So 1905-06 would be about right. But as Rob said Geoff is your man.  John
 
> From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com
> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 20:02:01 -0500
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] Crossley Engine
> 
> I have just bought a Crossley Type M engine with serial number 55302. 
> Can any of you SEL members tell me when it was built and a little history on 
> the engine. 
> Thank You
> Kevin K 
> 
> BIGFLYWHEEL at AOL.COM
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From peterwoodmore at aol.com  Tue Jan 12 02:39:35 2010
From: peterwoodmore at aol.com (peterwoodmore at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 05:39:35 EST
Subject: [SEL] Crossley Engine
Message-ID: <730.569284c3.387dab67@aol.com>

Kevin 
according to my list of numbers I would date it in 1907

Peter Woodmore. 
NSW Australia


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Jan 12 10:33:25 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:33:25 +0200
Subject: [SEL]  A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1263315602.12155.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za>

At 07:00 PM 12/01/2010, you wrote:
>Message: 3
>Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:06:47 -0500
>From: "Rick Rowlands" <rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com>
>Subject: [SEL] A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Message-ID: <028a01ca9334$4792dcb0$6401a8c0 at PC179134136174>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Well, I found another big engine to save!

<snip>

>Need help!  Arnie, Dave, can I sign you on as consultants?  We'll get some 
>younger guys to wield the wenches.
>
>Rick Rowlands

Hi Rick,
         Well done on the acquisition but don't you think that Dave and 
Arnie deserve to get to "wield the wenches" - why give the best job to some 
young 'uns.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>
P.S. This is a Dave type joke :-) 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Jan 12 11:12:17 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:12:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za>
Message-ID: <bd78a709f6bdce4b89cd712df8e2f2b9.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Jerry,

On Tue, January 12, 2010 1:33 pm, Jerry Evans wrote:
>>Need help!  Arnie, Dave, can I sign you on as consultants?  We'll get some
>>younger guys to wield the wenches.
>>
>          Well done on the acquisition but don't you think that Dave and
> Arnie deserve to get to "wield the wenches" - why give the best job to some
> young 'uns.

Rick knows what he's doing.  Dave and I will do a good job from the lawn chairs with
a cooler of beer between us offering the Wrecking Crew sage advice through a
bullhorn like "Righty tighty - lefty loosy."  Ya just can't have too much of that
sage advice.  8-))  Besides, someone needs to be Fire Watch when they're using the
rosebuds on the dogbones and flame cutting the foundation bolts.

See ya,  Arnie




From kosh at ncweb.com  Tue Jan 12 11:42:26 2010
From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:42:26 -0500
Subject: [SEL] A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?
In-Reply-To: <bd78a709f6bdce4b89cd712df8e2f2b9.squirrel@webmail.city-net .com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za>
	<5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20100112144113.0c7dda10@ncweb.com>

Can somebody post the original message?

I'm only getting the replies, guess the original poster is blacklisted.

Dave Merchant


At 02:12 PM 1/12/2010, you wrote:
>Hi Jerry,
>
>On Tue, January 12, 2010 1:33 pm, Jerry Evans wrote:
> >>Need help!  Arnie, Dave, can I sign you on as consultants?  We'll get some
> >>younger guys to wield the wenches.
> >>
> >          Well done on the acquisition but don't you think that Dave and
> > Arnie deserve to get to "wield the wenches" - why give the best job to some
> > young 'uns.
>
>Rick knows what he's doing.  Dave and I will do a good job from the lawn 
>chairs with
>a cooler of beer between us offering the Wrecking Crew sage advice through a
>bullhorn like "Righty tighty - lefty loosy."  Ya just can't have too much 
>of that
>sage advice.  8-))  Besides, someone needs to be Fire Watch when they're 
>using the
>rosebuds on the dogbones and flame cutting the foundation bolts.
>
>See ya,  Arnie
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Dave Merchant
kosh at nesys.com
nesys_com at ameritech.net
dmerchant at layerzero.com

http://www.nesys.com
http://www.nesys.org
YouTube: SteamCrane

"I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps
to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards)
and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline."
         - Prof. Phil Jones
         - Director, Climatic Research Unit
         - School of Environmental Sciences
         - University of East Anglia
         - Norwich, UK
         - To: Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley, Malcolm Hughes



From james.kangas at timken.com  Tue Jan 12 12:51:04 2010
From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:51:04 -0500
Subject: [SEL] A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za><5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za>
	<5.2.0.9.0.20100112144113.0c7dda10@ncweb.com>
Message-ID: <BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A687903D70879@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>

Well, I found another big engine to save! 

http://news.webshots.com/album/550717992EAkmQg <https://www.owa.tasp.inside.tkr/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://news.webshots.com/album/550717992EAkmQg> 

Donation of the engine is about 90% certain.  18' flywheel, approx. 100 ton total engine weight.  Its a little guy compared to the Tod.  Looking for volunteers for a second "Wrecking Crew".    Engine is located in Steubenville, OH and removal would begin in the spring.  It will be hauled to Youngstown and reassembled behind the Tod Engine, where it will forever be known as the "little engine"!

The engine was built approx. 1902 by Mesta Machine in Homestead, PA to drive a generator to provide the DC power for the Labelle Iron Works, later Wheeling Pittsburgh Steel.  Its probably been out of service for fifty years.  I discovered it in 2006 on a plant tour.  Imagine my surprise when I walked into the building to see a big flywheel looking back at me!

Need help!  Arnie, Dave, can I sign you on as consultants?  We'll get some younger guys to wield the wrenches.

Rick Rowlands
Tod Engine Heritage Park
Youngstown, OH

Here's the orginal post.
   Jim K.

________________________________

From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Dave Merchant
Sent: Tue 1/12/2010 2:42 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?



Can somebody post the original message?

I'm only getting the replies, guess the original poster is blacklisted.

Dave Merchant


At 02:12 PM 1/12/2010, you wrote:
>Hi Jerry,
>
>On Tue, January 12, 2010 1:33 pm, Jerry Evans wrote:
> >>Need help!  Arnie, Dave, can I sign you on as consultants?  We'll get some
> >>younger guys to wield the wenches.
> >>
> >          Well done on the acquisition but don't you think that Dave and
> > Arnie deserve to get to "wield the wenches" - why give the best job to some
> > young 'uns.
>
>Rick knows what he's doing.  Dave and I will do a good job from the lawn
>chairs with
>a cooler of beer between us offering the Wrecking Crew sage advice through a
>bullhorn like "Righty tighty - lefty loosy."  Ya just can't have too much
>of that
>sage advice.  8-))  Besides, someone needs to be Fire Watch when they're
>using the
>rosebuds on the dogbones and flame cutting the foundation bolts.
>
>See ya,  Arnie
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Dave Merchant
kosh at nesys.com
nesys_com at ameritech.net
dmerchant at layerzero.com

http://www.nesys.com <http://www.nesys.com/> 
http://www.nesys.org <http://www.nesys.org/> 
YouTube: SteamCrane

"I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps
to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards)
and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline."
         - Prof. Phil Jones
         - Director, Climatic Research Unit
         - School of Environmental Sciences
         - University of East Anglia
         - Norwich, UK
         - To: Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley, Malcolm Hughes

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From bigflywheel at aol.com  Tue Jan 12 12:53:29 2010
From: bigflywheel at aol.com (bigflywheel at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:53:29 EST
Subject: [SEL] Crossley Engine
Message-ID: <1083b.135d4528.387e3b49@aol.com>

I would like to get the date and shipping information if some one has it on 
 this engine.
Thanks 
Kevin K 
 
BIGFLYWHEEL at AOL.COM
 
 
In a message dated 1/12/2010 5:46:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
peterwoodmore at aol.com writes:

Kevin  
according to my list of numbers I would date it in 1907

Peter  Woodmore. 
NSW  Australia
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From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Tue Jan 12 13:11:16 2010
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:11:16 -0500
Subject: [SEL] A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za><5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za>
	<5.2.0.9.0.20100112144113.0c7dda10@ncweb.com>
Message-ID: <042801ca93cb$c7b85130$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>

I've been blacklisted!  Usually i'm only blacklisted by liberals!

Rick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Merchant" <kosh at ncweb.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?


> Can somebody post the original message?
>
> I'm only getting the replies, guess the original poster is blacklisted.
>
> Dave Merchant
>
>
> At 02:12 PM 1/12/2010, you wrote:
>>Hi Jerry,
>>
>>On Tue, January 12, 2010 1:33 pm, Jerry Evans wrote:
>> >>Need help!  Arnie, Dave, can I sign you on as consultants?  We'll get 
>> >>some
>> >>younger guys to wield the wenches.
>> >>
>> >          Well done on the acquisition but don't you think that Dave and
>> > Arnie deserve to get to "wield the wenches" - why give the best job to 
>> > some
>> > young 'uns.
>>
>>Rick knows what he's doing.  Dave and I will do a good job from the lawn
>>chairs with
>>a cooler of beer between us offering the Wrecking Crew sage advice through 
>>a
>>bullhorn like "Righty tighty - lefty loosy."  Ya just can't have too much
>>of that
>>sage advice.  8-))  Besides, someone needs to be Fire Watch when they're
>>using the
>>rosebuds on the dogbones and flame cutting the foundation bolts.
>>
>>See ya,  Arnie
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> Dave Merchant
> kosh at nesys.com
> nesys_com at ameritech.net
> dmerchant at layerzero.com
>
> http://www.nesys.com
> http://www.nesys.org
> YouTube: SteamCrane
>
> "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps
> to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards)
> and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline."
>         - Prof. Phil Jones
>         - Director, Climatic Research Unit
>         - School of Environmental Sciences
>         - University of East Anglia
>         - Norwich, UK
>         - To: Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley, Malcolm Hughes
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From bigflywheel at aol.com  Tue Jan 12 13:31:59 2010
From: bigflywheel at aol.com (bigflywheel at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:31:59 EST
Subject: [SEL] Oliver Chilled Plow Works cast iron seat
Message-ID: <11c43.40c2412b.387e444f@aol.com>

You tractor boy might want to look at this on Ebay. Oliver Chilled Plow  
Works cast iron seat. I will ship over seas.    Ebay item  #    220539206044
 
Kevin K 
 
_BIGFLYWHEEL at AOL.COM_ (mailto:BIGFLYWHEEL at AOL.COM) 


From marinesurveys at msn.com  Tue Jan 12 14:53:07 2010
From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:53:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tongue in cheek mechanical education
In-Reply-To: <46120880E65E4417BE3A13D30B502AFA@zen>
References: <46120880E65E4417BE3A13D30B502AFA@zen>
Message-ID: <COL106-W50808FDE00C5C44B8A2040B46C0@phx.gbl>


Dave the Turbo-Encabulator was great.

 

On another subject any of you guys looking for bearing scrapers

for Babbit { Poured } bearings look at the item 250558999888

on E-Bay it's a lot of 23 scrapers up for grabs.

 

                B, Rgds


        Franklin S. Skinner 
    Marine Surveyor & Consultant 
3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 
       34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West 
PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470



 
> From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com
> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> CC: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
> Subject: Tongue in cheek mechanical education
> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:06:49 +0000
> 
> The Turbo-Encabulator
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXW0bx_Ooq4
> For these cold days. 8^)
> Dave Croft
> Warrington
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/
> http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
> 
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From marinesurveys at msn.com  Tue Jan 12 14:56:46 2010
From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:56:46 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Oliver Chilled Plow Works cast iron seat
In-Reply-To: <11c43.40c2412b.387e444f@aol.com>
References: <11c43.40c2412b.387e444f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <COL106-W46E6207D5B48D293F8CAD7B46C0@phx.gbl>


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, <<<<<<<, ponders could this be fatg butt cooler ;-}

        Franklin S. Skinner 
    Marine Surveyor & Consultant 
3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 
       34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West 
PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470



 
> From: bigflywheel at aol.com
> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:31:59 -0500
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] Oliver Chilled Plow Works cast iron seat
> 
> You tractor boy might want to look at this on Ebay. Oliver Chilled Plow 
> Works cast iron seat. I will ship over seas. Ebay item # 220539206044
> 
> Kevin K 
> 
> _BIGFLYWHEEL at AOL.COM_ (mailto:BIGFLYWHEEL at AOL.COM) 
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From bigflywheel at aol.com  Tue Jan 12 15:13:41 2010
From: bigflywheel at aol.com (bigflywheel at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:13:41 EST
Subject: [SEL] Crossley Engine
Message-ID: <14e73.4489b506.387e5c25@aol.com>

Rob you have email or contact for Geoff C 
KK
 
 
In a message dated 1/11/2010 6:47:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
rob at rustyiron.com writes:

My guess  would be about 1905.  If you send Geoff Challinor twenty  
quid,  he'll have Margaret look it up in the book for you.


Rob Skinner
Antique Stationary Engines
La Habra,  California

rob at rustyiron.com
www.rustyiron.com





On  Jan 10, 2010, at 5:02 PM, BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote:

> I have just  bought a Crossley Type M engine with serial number    
>  55302.
> Can any of you SEL members tell me when it was built and a  little   
> history on
> the  engine.

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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Jan 12 16:19:53 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:19:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Crossley Engine
In-Reply-To: <14e73.4489b506.387e5c25@aol.com>
References: <14e73.4489b506.387e5c25@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8ce917d05dfad95b636fa89f1d209789.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

geoff at enginemuseum.org

On Tue, January 12, 2010 6:13 pm, bigflywheel at aol.com wrote:
> Rob you have email or contact for Geoff C
> KK
>
>
> In a message dated 1/11/2010 6:47:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> rob at rustyiron.com writes:
>
> My guess  would be about 1905.  If you send Geoff Challinor twenty
> quid,  he'll have Margaret look it up in the book for you.
>
>
> Rob Skinner
> Antique Stationary Engines
> La Habra,  California
>
> rob at rustyiron.com
> www.rustyiron.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On  Jan 10, 2010, at 5:02 PM, BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote:
>
>> I have just  bought a Crossley Type M engine with serial number
>>  55302.
>> Can any of you SEL members tell me when it was built and a  little
>> history on
>> the  engine.
>
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From bigflywheel at aol.com  Tue Jan 12 17:15:44 2010
From: bigflywheel at aol.com (bigflywheel at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:15:44 EST
Subject: [SEL] Crossley Engine
Message-ID: <1890f.5c15b15b.387e78c0@aol.com>

Thank You
KK
 
 
In a message dated 1/12/2010 7:19:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
fero_ah at city-net.com writes:

geoff at enginemuseum.org

On Tue, January 12, 2010 6:13 pm,  bigflywheel at aol.com wrote:
> Rob you have email or contact for Geoff  C
> KK
>
>
> In a message dated 1/11/2010 6:47:09 P.M.  Eastern Standard Time,
> rob at rustyiron.com writes:
>
> My  guess  would be about 1905.  If you send Geoff Challinor  twenty
> quid,  he'll have Margaret look it up in the book for  you.
>
>
> Rob Skinner
> Antique Stationary  Engines
> La Habra,  California
>
>  rob at rustyiron.com
>  www.rustyiron.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On  Jan  10, 2010, at 5:02 PM, BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote:
>
>> I have  just  bought a Crossley Type M engine with serial  number
>>  55302.
>> Can any of you SEL members tell me  when it was built and a  little
>> history on
>>  the  engine.
>
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Wed Jan 13 10:42:41 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:42:41 +0200
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 70, Issue 11
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1263402002.30925.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100113204125.028bbc08@mail.atech.co.za>

At 07:00 PM 13/01/2010, you wrote:
>Message: 2
>Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:12:17 -0500 (EST)
>From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?
>
>
>Hi Jerry,
>
>On Tue, January 12, 2010 1:33 pm, Jerry Evans wrote:
> >>Need help!  Arnie, Dave, can I sign you on as consultants?  We'll get some
> >>younger guys to wield the wenches.
> >>
> >          Well done on the acquisition but don't you think that Dave and
> > Arnie deserve to get to "wield the wenches" - why give the best job to some
> > young 'uns.
>
>Rick knows what he's doing.  Dave and I will do a good job from the lawn 
>chairs with
>a cooler of beer between us offering the Wrecking Crew sage advice through a
>bullhorn like "Righty tighty - lefty loosy."  Ya just can't have too much 
>of that
>sage advice.  8-))  Besides, someone needs to be Fire Watch when they're 
>using the
>rosebuds on the dogbones and flame cutting the foundation bolts.
>
>See ya,  Arnie


Hi Arnie,
         I guess you did'nt notice that I removed the "r" from wrenches ?? :-)
Jerry




From mls543 at ntelos.net  Sun Jan 17 07:36:17 2010
From: mls543 at ntelos.net (Mark Shattuck)
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:36:17 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <4B532E71.2060209@ntelos.net>

Server Went Down Bounced  All Mail . Checking out new settings Thanks .


                                                                           Mark L Shattuck
                                                                           Waynesboro Va.


From germoamer at aol.com  Sun Jan 17 08:37:52 2010
From: germoamer at aol.com (germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 11:37:52 EST
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <17007.23f38bdd.388496e0@aol.com>

Test OK  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sun Jan 17 19:36:39 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:36:39 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Still here and working on engines
Message-ID: <C77A2277.3935%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

I was a little late for the new year crank up but I have been getting a few
jobs done on the engines at home (when I have not been painting the house).
The model Eclipse was first. I pulled it out of its hidey hole a couple of
days after new year. It had not been run for a while so it needed a little
TLC to get it back up to scratch. It is now cleaned up and running like a
clock.
The next job was to fix up old no.1 engine: the F-M Eclipse. The governor
had been playing up at the Young rally so it did some repairs and another
slight modification and it is running a lot better. It is an early model so
the govenor detent is different to the later ones and not as positive in its
action. I can see why it was changed.
Yesterday I dug out the 2nd 1hp R&V and got it running as well. It is still
not running as well as my other 1hp but a little more work will sort it out!

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From rotigel at me.com  Wed Jan 20 01:13:28 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:13:28 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za>
Message-ID: <B938B612-BC61-45E9-8FDF-B4C20C1DCD73@me.com>

60 - 1 = 59! There will be even less in the near future!!!!!
	Dave



From rob at rustyiron.com  Tue Jan 19 22:32:59 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:32:59 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
In-Reply-To: <B938B612-BC61-45E9-8FDF-B4C20C1DCD73@me.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za>
	<B938B612-BC61-45E9-8FDF-B4C20C1DCD73@me.com>
Message-ID: <D0118BAB-196D-4B36-965D-A715CB360F18@rustyiron.com>

On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:13 AM, David Rotigel wrote:

> 60 - 1 = 59! There will be even less in the near future!!!!!
> 	Dave


Fewer.

















From clemsweller at etczone.com  Wed Jan 20 02:30:33 2010
From: clemsweller at etczone.com (Chuck Emsweller)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:30:33 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <B938B612-BC61-45E9-8FDF-B4C20C1DCD73@me.com>
Message-ID: <201001200530495.SM375120@ChuckDesktopPC>

The people of Mass. have sent a strong message with this one!  Just a shame
the rest of us can't do the same until this fall.

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:13 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!

60 - 1 = 59! There will be even less in the near future!!!!!
	Dave

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From marinesurveys at msn.com  Wed Jan 20 02:44:09 2010
From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:44:09 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <201001200530495.SM375120@ChuckDesktopPC>
References: <B938B612-BC61-45E9-8FDF-B4C20C1DCD73@me.com>,
	<201001200530495.SM375120@ChuckDesktopPC>
Message-ID: <COL106-W1570E3B4EA1CB6C85C3C7BB4640@phx.gbl>


Chuck;

Thats a fact !!!!

        Franklin S. Skinner 
    Marine Surveyor & Consultant 
3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 
       34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West 
PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470



 
> From: clemsweller at etczone.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:30:33 -0500
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
> 
> The people of Mass. have sent a strong message with this one! Just a shame
> the rest of us can't do the same until this fall.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:13 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
> 
> 60 - 1 = 59! There will be even less in the near future!!!!!
> Dave
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
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From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Wed Jan 20 03:44:34 2010
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:44:34 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za>
	<B938B612-BC61-45E9-8FDF-B4C20C1DCD73@me.com>
Message-ID: <056f01ca99c5$f06bbcc0$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>

Barack and the Dems will be singing this today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCXycgAUNWI

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:13 AM
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!


> 60 - 1 = 59! There will be even less in the near future!!!!!
> Dave
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>


From edurand at mchsi.com  Wed Jan 20 06:42:03 2010
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:42:03 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
In-Reply-To: <B938B612-BC61-45E9-8FDF-B4C20C1DCD73@me.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOEBCIKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Dave:

I do believe the folks spoke!  More to come.

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of David
> Rotigel
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 03:13 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
> 
> 
> 60 - 1 = 59! There will be even less in the near 
> future!!!!!
> 	Dave




From rotigel at me.com  Wed Jan 20 13:21:11 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:21:11 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOEBCIKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOEBCIKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <9E30E077-46CD-40F3-A4F4-A386B4706E36@me.com>


On Jan 20, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Elden DuRand wrote:
> Dave:
> I do believe the folks spoke!  More to come.
> Take care - Elden

Elden, This one was for Mary Jo!
	Dave


From kimmell at verizon.net  Wed Jan 20 10:29:22 2010
From: kimmell at verizon.net (kimmell at verizon.net)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:29:22 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
Message-ID: <907401564-1264012246-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-849372676-@bda835.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Right on!
Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect



From edurand at mchsi.com  Wed Jan 20 14:53:00 2010
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:53:00 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
In-Reply-To: <9E30E077-46CD-40F3-A4F4-A386B4706E36@me.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOEBGIKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Dave:

I never thought about it exactly like that but it is apropos and LONG overdue.

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of David
> Rotigel
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 03:21 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 20, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Elden DuRand wrote:
> > Dave:
> > I do believe the folks spoke!  More to come.
> > Take care - Elden
> 
> Elden, This one was for Mary Jo!
> 	Dave




From germoamer at aol.com  Wed Jan 20 14:31:10 2010
From: germoamer at aol.com (germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:31:10 EST
Subject: [SEL] shootings OT
Message-ID: <144ca.51c7a849.3888de2e@aol.com>

In case any of you watch the national news, a man killed 8 including 3 high 
 school kids yesterday, and had bombs set in his woods.  Also shot a state  
trooper helicopter down. He walked out of his woods and turned himself in  
just after daylight this morning after spending the  night there. It is in 
Appomattox, Virginia where I live.  It  is a very small town and a real 
tragedy.  The man must have gone completely  off his rocker.  So far I do not 
know anybody personally.   

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Wed Jan 20 14:44:25 2010
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:44:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] shootings OT
References: <144ca.51c7a849.3888de2e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <065801ca9a22$1dcc1500$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>

Unless it happened in Haiti we won't see it on the news around here.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <germoamer at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:31 PM
Subject: [SEL] shootings OT


> In case any of you watch the national news, a man killed 8 including 3 
> high
> school kids yesterday, and had bombs set in his woods.  Also shot a state
> trooper helicopter down. He walked out of his woods and turned himself in
> just after daylight this morning after spending the  night there. It is in
> Appomattox, Virginia where I live.  It  is a very small town and a real
> tragedy.  The man must have gone completely  off his rocker.  So far I do 
> not
> know anybody personally.
>
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord,  Va.
> germoamer at AOL.com
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From falcon at telenet.net  Wed Jan 20 17:25:42 2010
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:25:42 -0500
Subject: [SEL] shootings OT
In-Reply-To: <144ca.51c7a849.3888de2e@aol.com>
References: <144ca.51c7a849.3888de2e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4B57AD16.1090901@telenet.net>

germoamer at aol.com wrote:
> In case any of you watch the national news, a man killed 8 including 3 high 
>  school kids yesterday, and had bombs set in his woods.  Also shot a state  
> trooper helicopter down. He walked out of his woods and turned himself in  
> just after daylight this morning after spending the  night there. It is in 
> Appomattox, Virginia where I live.  It  is a very small town and a real 
> tragedy.  The man must have gone completely  off his rocker.  So far I do not 
> know anybody personally.   
> 
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord,  Va.
> germoamer at AOL.com
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> 

Good thing you don't know anyone.

Bad thing is that they let him give up. Should have shot him down as he
stepped out...

-- 
Steve W.



From solarrog at pacbell.net  Wed Jan 20 17:37:52 2010
From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:37:52 -0800
Subject: [SEL] shootings OT
In-Reply-To: <4B57AD16.1090901@telenet.net>
References: <144ca.51c7a849.3888de2e@aol.com> <4B57AD16.1090901@telenet.net>
Message-ID: <38527866A2894E6D9D4E1D2DD888701C@RogerDiRusciPC>

Now they will psychoanalyze him to see if he was a bed wetter, If his mommy 
abused him, or if he was an engine collector. It will take 15 years and 
millions of dollars to take him out of the gene pool

Roger DiRuscio 510-226-2414 office
R.E. Realty Experts of Fremont, Ca. # 414413
Broker Associate # 615513
sales since 1977 ham call KG6QKZ
510-676-3122 cell
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] shootings OT


> germoamer at aol.com wrote:
>> In case any of you watch the national news, a man killed 8 including 3 
>> high
>>  school kids yesterday, and had bombs set in his woods.  Also shot a 
>> state
>> trooper helicopter down. He walked out of his woods and turned himself in
>> just after daylight this morning after spending the  night there. It is 
>> in
>> Appomattox, Virginia where I live.  It  is a very small town and a real
>> tragedy.  The man must have gone completely  off his rocker.  So far I do 
>> not
>> know anybody personally.
>>
>> Tom  Schmutz
>> Concord,  Va.
>> germoamer at AOL.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
>
> Good thing you don't know anyone.
>
> Bad thing is that they let him give up. Should have shot him down as he
> stepped out...
>
> -- 
> Steve W.
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From riga_fire at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 20 18:31:51 2010
From: riga_fire at yahoo.com (Paul Russell)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:31:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] shootings OT
In-Reply-To: <144ca.51c7a849.3888de2e@aol.com>
References: <144ca.51c7a849.3888de2e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <665103.27134.qm@web31814.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://www.lawofficer.com/news-and-articles/news/2010/01/virginia_gunman_surrenders_to_police.html

Link to some info on it if interested.




________________________________
From: "germoamer at aol.com" <germoamer at aol.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 5:31:10 PM
Subject: [SEL] shootings OT

In case any of you watch the national news, a man killed 8 including 3 high 
school kids yesterday, and had bombs set in his woods.? Also shot a state? 
trooper helicopter down. He walked out of his woods and turned himself in? 
just after daylight this morning after spending the? night there. It is in 
Appomattox, Virginia where I live.? It? is a very small town and a real 
tragedy.? The man must have gone completely? off his rocker.? So far I do not 
know anybody personally.? 

Tom? Schmutz
Concord,? Va.
germoamer at AOL.com
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From jbcast at charter.net  Wed Jan 20 19:11:42 2010
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:11:42 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Port Wing, WI
Message-ID: <20100120221142.80MJC.2500108.root@mp13>

Any list members near Port Wing, WI?
J.B. Castagnos
Belle Rose, LA


From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 21 03:15:31 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 03:15:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
In-Reply-To: <056f01ca99c5$f06bbcc0$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>
Message-ID: <241067.71393.qm@web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks, Rick.
I think this one fits too.
big time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZNGPRX_W88&feature=related
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Wed, 1/20/10, Rick Rowlands <rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com> wrote:


From: Rick Rowlands <rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 6:44 AM


Barack and the Dems will be singing this today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCXycgAUNWI

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:13 AM
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!


> 60 - 1 = 59! There will be even less in the near future!!!!!
> Dave
> 
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Jan 21 11:53:17 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:53:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <201001200530495.SM375120@ChuckDesktopPC>
References: <201001200530495.SM375120@ChuckDesktopPC>
Message-ID: <9341fcc25303cba1a1a5dbafc6b3dbfa.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Why not?  All the US Reps and 1/3 of the Senate are up for election.
Throw the bums out!!

On Wed, January 20, 2010 5:30 am, Chuck Emsweller wrote:
> The people of Mass. have sent a strong message with this one!  Just a shame
> the rest of us can't do the same until this fall.




From clemsweller at etczone.com  Thu Jan 21 17:08:01 2010
From: clemsweller at etczone.com (Chuck Emsweller)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:08:01 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <9341fcc25303cba1a1a5dbafc6b3dbfa.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>

I fully agree with you on throwing them out!  Just have to wait until
election day for it to happen.  They aint like rabbits or quail and have an
open season

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:53 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT

Why not?  All the US Reps and 1/3 of the Senate are up for election.
Throw the bums out!!

On Wed, January 20, 2010 5:30 am, Chuck Emsweller wrote:
> The people of Mass. have sent a strong message with this one!  Just a
shame
> the rest of us can't do the same until this fall.


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From rotigel at me.com  Thu Jan 21 22:04:11 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:04:11 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>
Message-ID: <C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>

Hi Chuck, Would this take a constitutional amendment, or do you think  
it's a state by state decision?
	Dave

On Jan 21, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Chuck Emsweller wrote:

>   They aint like rabbits or quail and have an
> open season
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie  
> Fero
> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:53 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
>
> Why not?  All the US Reps and 1/3 of the Senate are up for election.
> Throw the bums out!!
>
> On Wed, January 20, 2010 5:30 am, Chuck Emsweller wrote:
>> The people of Mass. have sent a strong message with this one!  Just a
> shame
>> the rest of us can't do the same until this fall.


From clemsweller at etczone.com  Thu Jan 21 19:57:58 2010
From: clemsweller at etczone.com (Chuck Emsweller)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:57:58 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
Message-ID: <201001212258153.SM33903@ChuckDesktopPC>

State by state would probably be the quickest, but the surest would be
through constitutional amendment

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 1:04 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT

Hi Chuck, Would this take a constitutional amendment, or do you think  
it's a state by state decision?
	Dave

On Jan 21, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Chuck Emsweller wrote:

>   They aint like rabbits or quail and have an
> open season
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie  
> Fero
> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:53 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
>
> Why not?  All the US Reps and 1/3 of the Senate are up for election.
> Throw the bums out!!
>
> On Wed, January 20, 2010 5:30 am, Chuck Emsweller wrote:
>> The people of Mass. have sent a strong message with this one!  Just a
> shame
>> the rest of us can't do the same until this fall.
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From kosh at ncweb.com  Thu Jan 21 20:38:28 2010
From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:38:28 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>
	<201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20100121233423.0b7181d0@ncweb.com>

State by state;;;

http://www.ehow.com/how_2096900_recall-us-senator.html

In many ways, the desired effect has already been achieved.
Any Dem legislator that wants to keep their seat past November
is going to be very cautious.

The anthill has been kicked over pretty good.

Dave Merchant


At 01:04 AM 1/22/2010, you wrote:
>Hi Chuck, Would this take a constitutional amendment, or do you think
>it's a state by state decision?
>         Dave
>
>On Jan 21, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Chuck Emsweller wrote:
>
> >   They aint like rabbits or quail and have an
> > open season
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie
> > Fero
> > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:53 PM
> > To: The SEL email discussion list
> > Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
> >
> > Why not?  All the US Reps and 1/3 of the Senate are up for election.
> > Throw the bums out!!
> >
> > On Wed, January 20, 2010 5:30 am, Chuck Emsweller wrote:
> >> The people of Mass. have sent a strong message with this one!  Just a
> > shame
> >> the rest of us can't do the same until this fall.
>_______________________________________________
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dmerchant at layerzero.com

http://www.nesys.com
http://www.nesys.org
YouTube: SteamCrane

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to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards)
and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline."
         - Prof. Phil Jones
         - Director, Climatic Research Unit
         - School of Environmental Sciences
         - University of East Anglia
         - Norwich, UK
         - To: Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley, Malcolm Hughes



From nadejack at optusnet.com.au  Thu Jan 21 20:57:36 2010
From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:57:36 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>
	<C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
Message-ID: <4B593040.2070002@optusnet.com.au>

Look as if this site has been hijacked by spammers.
It ain't what it uster be.
Time to unsubscribe, methinks

JW?


From rotigel at me.com  Fri Jan 22 00:46:24 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:46:24 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <201001212258153.SM33903@ChuckDesktopPC>
References: <201001212258153.SM33903@ChuckDesktopPC>
Message-ID: <02D50B31-BAE9-41F1-9F7A-8011A32A4B03@me.com>

But Chuck, State by state sinply maked possible individual effort for  
people hunting rabbits and quail. That could get the replacement  
process working LONG before the fall!
	Dave

On Jan 21, 2010, at 7:57 PM, Chuck Emsweller wrote:

> State by state would probably be the quickest, but the surest would be
> through constitutional amendment
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David  
> Rotigel
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 1:04 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
>
> Hi Chuck, Would this take a constitutional amendment, or do you think
> it's a state by state decision?
> 	Dave
>
> On Jan 21, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Chuck Emsweller wrote:
>
>>  They aint like rabbits or quail and have an
>> open season
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie
>> Fero
>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:53 PM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
>>
>> Why not?  All the US Reps and 1/3 of the Senate are up for election.
>> Throw the bums out!!
>>
>> On Wed, January 20, 2010 5:30 am, Chuck Emsweller wrote:
>>> The people of Mass. have sent a strong message with this one!   
>>> Just a
>> shame
>>> the rest of us can't do the same until this fall.
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From frappi at wcoil.com  Thu Jan 21 22:27:49 2010
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:27:49 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <4B593040.2070002@optusnet.com.au>
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>
	<C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
	<4B593040.2070002@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <20100122062736.89B7092FF@smtp.wcoil.com>


BY


At 11:57 PM 1/21/2010, you wrote:
>Look as if this site has been hijacked by spammers.
>It ain't what it uster be.
>Time to unsubscribe, methinks
>
>JW?
>Jack <nadejack at optusnet.com.au>

Mark & Christine Shulaw
Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601
USA
419.358.5206





From rotigel at me.com  Fri Jan 22 01:46:26 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:46:26 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <4B593040.2070002@optusnet.com.au>
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>
	<C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
	<4B593040.2070002@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <F8F133FC-3F42-4889-A26D-78C0FE5909CF@me.com>

Don't let the door hit you in the ass!
	Dave

On Jan 21, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Jack wrote:

> Look as if this site has been hijacked by spammers.
> It ain't what it uster be.
> Time to unsubscribe, methinks
>
> JW?
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Thu Jan 21 22:57:44 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:57:44 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <F8F133FC-3F42-4889-A26D-78C0FE5909CF@me.com>
Message-ID: <C77F9798.39FF%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

It is always nice to see the friendliness on the list.


On 22/1/10 8:46 PM, "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com> wrote:

> Don't let the door hit you in the ass!
> Dave


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Thu Jan 21 23:25:21 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg & Margaret Ingold)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:25:21 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
References: <C77F9798.39FF%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7EC493F4F49F4CAD9F4F091652910EB1@laptop>

It should have been on Slick. Dave should know better.
Reg & Marg Ingold (Ducking for cover)
Newcastle. NSW. Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT


> It is always nice to see the friendliness on the list.
> 
> 
> On 22/1/10 8:46 PM, "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Don't let the door hit you in the ass!
>> Dave
> 
> 
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>



From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Fri Jan 22 03:40:28 2010
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 06:40:28 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC><C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
	<4B593040.2070002@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <083a01ca9b57$b2525280$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>

Internet has been around for 20 years and still people don't know how to use 
the delete button on their email programs.   oyoyoyoyoyoy

Rick


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack" <nadejack at optusnet.com.au>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT


Look as if this site has been hijacked by spammers.
It ain't what it uster be.
Time to unsubscribe, methinks

JW?
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Jan 22 05:33:48 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:33:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>
	<C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
Message-ID: <7b6151a7439e5ae126e32f85f1ebb6f3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

ROFLMAO!!!!  Man, I'll bet THAT exchange got the Obamanation Domestic Surveillance
email sensors clanging!

On Fri, January 22, 2010 1:04 am, David Rotigel wrote:
> Hi Chuck, Would this take a constitutional amendment, or do you think
> it's a state by state decision?
> 	Dave
>
> On Jan 21, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Chuck Emsweller wrote:
>
>>   They aint like rabbits or quail and have an
>> open season
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>
>> Why not?  All the US Reps and 1/3 of the Senate are up for election.
>> Throw the bums out!!




From marinesurveys at msn.com  Fri Jan 22 05:49:50 2010
From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:49:50 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <7b6151a7439e5ae126e32f85f1ebb6f3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>,
	<C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>,
	<7b6151a7439e5ae126e32f85f1ebb6f3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <COL106-W19B5AE546B97577D597C36B4620@phx.gbl>


HMmmmmmmmmmm <<<<<<<< ponders , is tar & feather sill

in vogue ?  ;-}

        Franklin S. Skinner 
    Marine Surveyor & Consultant 
3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 
       34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West 
PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470



 
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:33:48 -0500
> From: fero_ah at city-net.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
> 
> ROFLMAO!!!! Man, I'll bet THAT exchange got the Obamanation Domestic Surveillance
> email sensors clanging!
> 
> On Fri, January 22, 2010 1:04 am, David Rotigel wrote:
> > Hi Chuck, Would this take a constitutional amendment, or do you think
> > it's a state by state decision?
> > Dave
> >
> > On Jan 21, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Chuck Emsweller wrote:
> >
> >> They aint like rabbits or quail and have an
> >> open season
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >>
> >> Why not? All the US Reps and 1/3 of the Senate are up for election.
> >> Throw the bums out!!
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Jan 22 06:36:57 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 09:36:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <4B593040.2070002@optusnet.com.au>
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>
	<C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
	<4B593040.2070002@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <c3c086de2bf6bbaa8600ac5eecf7735b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Jack (sic),

Glad to hear from you again.  How are YOUR engine projects going?
I'm currently working on refurbing an old cement mixer cart to go
under a HEAVY 4 hp Robertsonville.  Damn COLD in the unheated shed
though.  Or didn't you really want to talk about engines?

See ya,  Arnie

On Thu, January 21, 2010 11:57 pm, Jack wrote:
> Look as if this site has been hijacked by spammers.
> It ain't what it uster be.
> Time to unsubscribe, methinks
>
> JW?





From oldironnut at windstream.net  Fri Jan 22 06:52:01 2010
From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 09:52:01 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <c3c086de2bf6bbaa8600ac5eecf7735b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>
	<C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
	<4B593040.2070002@optusnet.com.au>
	<c3c086de2bf6bbaa8600ac5eecf7735b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <108642C4-5881-4C3B-AF60-58881850C08A@windstream.net>

On Jan 22, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:

> Hi Jack (sic),
> 
> Glad to hear from you again.  How are YOUR engine projects going?
> I'm currently working on refurbing an old cement mixer cart to go
> under a HEAVY 4 hp Robertsonville.

Ya had me there for a split second... I thought the cart was for your Fero compressor!  So Mike R, I guess risking life and limb to recover that compressor is still in vane!

See ya',
Mike




From rotigel at me.com  Fri Jan 22 10:20:43 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:20:43 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <7EC493F4F49F4CAD9F4F091652910EB1@laptop>
References: <C77F9798.39FF%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
	<7EC493F4F49F4CAD9F4F091652910EB1@laptop>
Message-ID: <F9B65E58-FA5D-49EC-BD35-DA9EA14E3401@me.com>

MY BAD FOLKS. I Thought (took for granted that) it was on Slick. SORRY!
	Dave

On Jan 21, 2010, at 11:25 PM, Reg & Margaret Ingold wrote:

> It should have been on Slick. Dave should know better.
> Reg & Marg Ingold (Ducking for cover)
> Newcastle. NSW. Australia
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
> To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 5:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
>
>
>> It is always nice to see the friendliness on the list.
>>
>>
>> On 22/1/10 8:46 PM, "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Don't let the door hit you in the ass!
>>> Dave
>>
>>
>> Patrick M Livingstone
>> Leichhardt NSW
>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Fri Jan 22 07:37:19 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (mr at carolina.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:37:19 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <108642C4-5881-4C3B-AF60-58881850C08A@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <20100122153719.6XVDN.215075.root@cdptpa-web17-z01>

I suspect the Fero Compressor is just a heap of rust over in the corner of the garage.  They weren't very well made anyway and we never really suspected to see it assembled and running anyway.  But, there is always the Fero Compressor Registry we can look at!  BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!

---- Michael Tucker <oldironnut at windstream.net> wrote: 
> On Jan 22, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
> 
> > Hi Jack (sic),
> > 
> > Glad to hear from you again.  How are YOUR engine projects going?
> > I'm currently working on refurbing an old cement mixer cart to go
> > under a HEAVY 4 hp Robertsonville.
> 
> Ya had me there for a split second... I thought the cart was for your Fero compressor!  So Mike R, I guess risking life and limb to recover that compressor is still in vane!
> 
> See ya',
> Mike
> 
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From rotigel at me.com  Fri Jan 22 11:54:54 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:54:54 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Show
Message-ID: <3571D628-81D8-4B83-A939-7AE88E50D609@me.com>

Hi Gang, Who will be at the Zolfo show this year? I should get there  
on March 2nd. I'll be in the usual place--EX 6.
	Dave



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Fri Jan 22 09:50:07 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:50:07 +0200
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 70, Issue 17
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1264179602.28885.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100122194830.00c89b88@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 07:00 PM 22/01/2010, you wrote:
>Message: 19
>Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:54:54 -0800
>From: David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
>Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Show
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Message-ID: <3571D628-81D8-4B83-A939-7AE88E50D609 at me.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
>Hi Gang, Who will be at the Zolfo show this year? I should get there
>on March 2nd. I'll be in the usual place--EX 6.
>         Dave

Oh Boy,
         An engine related post <very very big grin>.
         No Dave I'll not be there :-0
Jerry




From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 22 10:13:32 2010
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:13:32 -0500
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 70, Issue 17
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100122194830.00c89b88@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <mailman.3.1264179602.28885.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
Message-ID: <COL112-W19FF3DC6AD8EB8DEBB52AD95620@phx.gbl>


I won't be at Zolfo this year Dave, I'm saving up to go to Africa to watch the soccer match. Steve

 


 
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:50:07 +0200
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> From: jerrye at databak.co.za
> Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 70, Issue 17
> 
> At 07:00 PM 22/01/2010, you wrote:
> >Message: 19
> >Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:54:54 -0800
> >From: David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
> >Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Show
> >To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> >Message-ID: <3571D628-81D8-4B83-A939-7AE88E50D609 at me.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
> >
> >Hi Gang, Who will be at the Zolfo show this year? I should get there
> >on March 2nd. I'll be in the usual place--EX 6.
> > Dave
> 
> Oh Boy,
> An engine related post <very very big grin>.
> No Dave I'll not be there :-0
> Jerry
> 
> 
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From George_Best at adp.com  Fri Jan 22 10:16:08 2010
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:16:08 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Engines from France
In-Reply-To: <6999519A-5E6B-47B5-9A59-C8463854C66E@rustyiron.com>
References: <cf6.6b947f44.387bd289@aol.com>
	<6999519A-5E6B-47B5-9A59-C8463854C66E@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F348D859B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Just curious, any list members have engines in their collection that were made in France?
Or if you don't own a French engine do you know of any French engines in collections?

I currently have 3 French engines.

A Bernard air-cooled engine which is French, although not really a collector type engine.  So please limit responses to the flywheel type engines.

My other engines are a 1910 5hp vertical Ceres and a 1920's vertical 3hp(?) DUX.

I do know of a 3 or 4hp Japy in California.

I know of a questionable French sideshaft in Nebraska, but I say questionable as it had no tag.  The owner at that time had it shipped from France and thought it was a French engine although it was very much like the lesser known Czech engines I've seen.

Any other French engines?


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From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk  Fri Jan 22 12:28:36 2010
From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 20:28:36 -0000
Subject: [SEL] Engines from France
Message-ID: <82DB3935F31C414DB7EAF2780B1FA703@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>

George,

    At the moment we have 3 Jappy engines they are a twin flywheel 3 1/4hp model E13, a single flywheel  1hp model E13 this is a early version of this size as it has a split crank case and last year whilst at Neunen we purchased a 1 1/2hp? single flywheel vertical hot tube model E10 engine.
    This engine was totally seized solid and missing many parts (Arnie and the Cloistered Roysters can confirm this(Mike took many pictures and refers to it as his engine which we are looking after / restoring)) Work on this particular engine is progressing slowly all the missing parts have been cast and machined including a new flywheel as the original was found to be cracked across the hub and 2 spokes.The cylinder has been rebored and sleeved, new rings installed most of the external parts have now been freed off and refitted sop hopefully we shouldn't be to far away from seeing if it will run.

Cheers, Craig

From George_Best at adp.com  Fri Jan 22 12:57:58 2010
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:57:58 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Engines from France
In-Reply-To: <82DB3935F31C414DB7EAF2780B1FA703@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>
References: <82DB3935F31C414DB7EAF2780B1FA703@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3491C362@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Craig,

I recently had the chance to buy a 6hp Japy, but haven't moved on it.  Its an early one with 1 flywheel and a large pulley in place of the 2nd flywheel.  Although I know they sold 1 flywheel versions, I think the two flywheel engines look nicer.

Also the larger Japy engines don't have the 4 spoke flywheel that has kind of an interesting look and appeal.

Hope to see you at Nuenen in 2011.  Not much chance I'll be there this year although if current plans fall through I might talk myself into a quick Nuenen trip.

George



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of craig morrison
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 12:29 PM
To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Engines from France

George,

    At the moment we have 3 Jappy engines they are a twin flywheel 3 1/4hp model E13, a single flywheel  1hp model E13 this is a early version of this size as it has a split crank case and last year whilst at Neunen we purchased a 1 1/2hp? single flywheel vertical hot tube model E10 engine.
    This engine was totally seized solid and missing many parts (Arnie and the Cloistered Roysters can confirm this(Mike took many pictures and refers to it as his engine which we are looking after / restoring)) Work on this particular engine is progressing slowly all the missing parts have been cast and machined including a new flywheel as the original was found to be cracked across the hub and 2 spokes.The cylinder has been rebored and sleeved, new rings installed most of the external parts have now been freed off and refitted sop hopefully we shouldn't be to far away from seeing if it will run.

Cheers, Craig
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From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Fri Jan 22 14:07:42 2010
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:07:42 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Engines from France
In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F348D859B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
References: <cf6.6b947f44.387bd289@aol.com>	<6999519A-5E6B-47B5-9A59-C8463854C66E@rustyiron.com>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F348D859B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
Message-ID: <4B5A21AE.4090501@insulate.co.uk>

Hi George

ALL the engines in our collection are French engines.  We have a French 
half-breed oilfield engine, a French Maytag, a French Petter S ....
Oh, that's not what you meant!
Just the one then, a Bernard.  Small and cute.

Dolly

Best, George wrote:
> Just curious, any list members have engines in their collection that were made in France?
> Or if you don't own a French engine do you know of any French engines in collections?
>
> I currently have 3 French engines.
>
>   

-- 
Jim French
fbi at insulate.co.uk
http://www.insulate.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm



From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Fri Jan 22 14:33:47 2010
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 06:33:47 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC><C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
	<4B593040.2070002@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <BB6CDDF836974A72B3AB106180BD1C38@your9e74d7efa7>

I'am with you Jack .......not interested in this garbage anymore .
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack" <nadejack at optusnet.com.au>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT


> Look as if this site has been hijacked by spammers.
> It ain't what it uster be.
> Time to unsubscribe, methinks
>
> JW?
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From edurand at mchsi.com  Fri Jan 22 17:10:31 2010
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:10:31 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Show
In-Reply-To: <3571D628-81D8-4B83-A939-7AE88E50D609@me.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBCECGIKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Dave:

I plan to be there for at least a couple of days with the 2009 Algore Edition Green Hybrid Hoyt-Clagwell.  I'll look you up.  We can munch some goobers and swap lies.

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of David
> Rotigel
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 01:55 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Show
> 
> 
> Hi Gang, Who will be at the Zolfo show this year? 
> I should get there  
> on March 2nd. I'll be in the usual place--EX 6.
> 	Dave




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Jan 22 22:20:32 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 01:20:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 70, Issue 17
In-Reply-To: <COL112-W19FF3DC6AD8EB8DEBB52AD95620@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.3.1264179602.28885.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
	<COL112-W19FF3DC6AD8EB8DEBB52AD95620@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <b22ec3bb69029d87743bdb6a0b37c4dc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Don't forget your knife-proof vest...

On Fri, January 22, 2010 1:13 pm, Steve Royster wrote:
>
> I won't be at Zolfo this year Dave, I'm saving up to go to Africa to watch the
> soccer match. Steve




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Jan 22 22:41:05 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 01:41:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Engines from France
In-Reply-To: <4B5A21AE.4090501@insulate.co.uk>
References: <cf6.6b947f44.387bd289@aol.com>
	<6999519A-5E6B-47B5-9A59-C8463854C66E@rustyiron.com>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F348D859B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<4B5A21AE.4090501@insulate.co.uk>
Message-ID: <c07f379a690d4ded951198c98ed0cb40.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Sorta like you eh Dolly?  8-))

On Fri, January 22, 2010 5:07 pm, Jim French wrote:
> Hi George
>
> ALL the engines in our collection are French engines.  We have a French
> half-breed oilfield engine, a French Maytag, a French Petter S ....
> Oh, that's not what you meant!
> Just the one then, a Bernard.  Small and cute.
>
> Dolly




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Jan 22 22:59:08 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 01:59:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <BB6CDDF836974A72B3AB106180BD1C38@your9e74d7efa7>
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC><C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
	<4B593040.2070002@optusnet.com.au>
	<BB6CDDF836974A72B3AB106180BD1C38@your9e74d7efa7>
Message-ID: <ff6903e5a2de951b556e951ad77347de.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Peter,

I seem to have missed it.  Where were you describing your current engine projects?

See ya,  Arnie

On Fri, January 22, 2010 5:33 pm, peter ogborne wrote:
> I'am with you Jack .......not interested in this garbage anymore .
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack" <nadejack at optusnet.com.au>
>
>> Look as if this site has been hijacked by spammers.
>> It ain't what it uster be.
>> Time to unsubscribe, methinks





From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Fri Jan 22 23:04:05 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:04:05 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Engines from France
In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F348D859B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
Message-ID: <C780EA95.3A35%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

This Rejou Lerouge & Co. Paris engine was at our rally in September:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc09/pages/DSCF3528_JPG.htm


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 23 08:21:22 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 08:21:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Engines from France
In-Reply-To: <C780EA95.3A35%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <480466.58410.qm@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the engine post, Patrick.
Nice engine.
Do you know what cooling system it would have had originally?
Tank cooled?
Screen cooled?
I want one.? 8>))
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sat, 1/23/10, Patrick Livingstone <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Patrick Livingstone <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Engines from France
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 2:04 AM


This Rejou Lerouge & Co. Paris engine was at our rally in September:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc09/pages/DSCF3528_JPG.htm


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
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From george at irontrader.com  Sat Jan 23 15:24:23 2010
From: george at irontrader.com (George Best)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:24:23 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Engines from France
In-Reply-To: <C780EA95.3A35%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F348D859B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<C780EA95.3A35%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000901ca9c83$331a9770$994fc650$@com>

Wow!  That's a nice looking engine.  Would like to have one of those in my
collection.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick
Livingstone
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:04 PM
To: ATIS
Subject: Re: [SEL] Engines from France

This Rejou Lerouge & Co. Paris engine was at our rally in September:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc09/pages/DSCF3528_JPG.htm


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Leichhardt NSW
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From rob at rustyiron.com  Sat Jan 23 15:48:47 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:48:47 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Engines from France
In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3491C362@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
References: <82DB3935F31C414DB7EAF2780B1FA703@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3491C362@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
Message-ID: <0997AB5B-0EF4-40C0-A1BE-FA8CDE428FB0@rustyiron.com>

On Jan 22, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Best, George wrote:

>  but haven't moved on it.



I can read the words, George, but don't understand
what you're talking about.  Are you feeling ok?








From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Jan 23 15:58:44 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:58:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Videos on YouTube
Message-ID: <bc128c6da944d0475e4301ee69cc1404.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Folks,  I'm continuing to work on the Lorenz and
Benz Engine Register.  We're up to 89 identified
Lorenz Engines and 51 identified Benz Engines.

There are a number of Lorenz and Benz engines
on YouTube (a couple of which I recognize).

If any one knows any of these engines and can
provide me with contact info for their owners
I would appreciate it.

Thanks.

Arnie Fero
Pittsburgh, PA
fero_ah at city-net.com

3 hp Lorenz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn2I1J1x92Y

3 hp Lorenz with Chaff Cutter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2NJF6sOy6s

3 hp Lorenz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-oIOXUbrNU

3-4 hp Lorenz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MwMVDPP7PA

3-4 hp Lorenz (S/N: 7951 perhaps?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrAUct9uxco

3-4 hp Lorenz (I think I know this one...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_1k-wAo84k

3-4 hp Lorenz with Hacksaw (Rob Skinner's?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4rHkYJlut4

4 hp Lorenz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiODev7Kz1A

4 hp Lorenz (George Best's Engine?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiODev7Kz1A

Diesel Lorenz (Dolly's Video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSsbgXlLkAs

Lorenz with Rotary Saw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgv_dOyoRKE

Benz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zfQtqA4epo

Benz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvQXkPNqruc

Benz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqM0CJXX1U8

Benz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcCt0h-TlxY

Benz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZZbiZZZ9eU

Benz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An02R9eWc_4

4-5 hp Benz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXzq6GmYk8g




From rob at rustyiron.com  Sat Jan 23 16:37:38 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:37:38 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Videos on YouTube
In-Reply-To: <bc128c6da944d0475e4301ee69cc1404.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <bc128c6da944d0475e4301ee69cc1404.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <AF6EEE90-8C9A-433C-9E14-58549DA834A5@rustyiron.com>

On Jan 23, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:

> Folks,  I'm continuing to work on the Lorenz and
> Benz Engine Register.

Continuing?

What happens when you multiply "zero" by... "continuing?"



> 3-4 hp Lorenz with Hacksaw (Rob Skinner's?)
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4rHkYJlut4

Our engine is 3 h.p.

And here's an old video that I'll upload to YouTube just cuz you need  
it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weE8imPU3kY







From jbcast at charter.net  Sat Jan 23 18:08:44 2010
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:08:44 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Show
In-Reply-To: <3571D628-81D8-4B83-A939-7AE88E50D609@me.com>
Message-ID: <20100123210844.M2JZ6.87793.root@mp16>


---- David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote: 
> Hi Gang, Who will be at the Zolfo show this year? I should get there  
> on March 2nd. I'll be in the usual place--EX 6.
> 	Dave
The Louisiana gang is trying to get together and go.
J.B. Castagnos


From mr at carolina.rr.com  Sat Jan 23 19:09:53 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:09:53 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Videos on YouTube
References: <bc128c6da944d0475e4301ee69cc1404.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<AF6EEE90-8C9A-433C-9E14-58549DA834A5@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <000a01ca9ca2$b36535b0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

continually nothing????


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Skinner" <rob at rustyiron.com>
To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Cc: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: Lorenz and Benz Engine Videos on YouTube


> On Jan 23, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:
> 
>> Folks,  I'm continuing to work on the Lorenz and
>> Benz Engine Register.
> 
> Continuing?
> 
> What happens when you multiply "zero" by... "continuing?"
> 
> 
> 
>> 3-4 hp Lorenz with Hacksaw (Rob Skinner's?)
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4rHkYJlut4
> 
> Our engine is 3 h.p.
> 
> And here's an old video that I'll upload to YouTube just cuz you need  
> it.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weE8imPU3kY
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To UN-subscribe, send a message to:
> 
> stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org
> with:
> unsubscribe
> in the subject of the message. Nothing else, no SIGs, etc.


From edurand at mchsi.com  Sun Jan 24 07:05:03 2010
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:05:03 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Show
In-Reply-To: <20100123210844.M2JZ6.87793.root@mp16>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBCECOIKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

J.B.:

GREAT, J.B.!  It will be great to meet you and the Louisiana contingent.  Be sure to look me up.

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of
> jbcast at charter.net
> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 08:09 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Zolfo Show
> 
> 
> 
> ---- David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote: 
> > Hi Gang, Who will be at the Zolfo show this 
> year? I should get there  
> > on March 2nd. I'll be in the usual place--EX 6.
> > 	Dave
> The Louisiana gang is trying to get together and go.
> J.B. Castagnos




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sun Jan 24 10:25:00 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:25:00 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1264352402.16951.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100124194936.00d0bd98@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 07:00 PM 24/01/2010, you wrote:
>Message: 6
>Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:09:53 -0500
>From: "Mike Royster" <mr at carolina.rr.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Videos on YouTube
>continually nothing????


Hi List members,
         We've been through this all before. There is a "scammer" in our 
midst again! We went through this a year or so back (and for a few years 
prior to that as well).

         This scammer's "Modus Operandi" (sp.) is always the same - he's 
being doing it for a good number of years now. This scammer "hijacks" a 
list members e-mail address (usually a chap whose initials are "A.F" - 
actual name and address withheld to protect the innocent!).

         He makes promises that he (or his accomplice in Britain) is 
finally "writing" a page which promises to "update" the "Lorenz & Benz 
engine registry" (a non -existent webpage).

         In fact all he is doing is gathering your personal information 
(and address) to enable his henchmen to "uplift" your Lorenz or Benz engine.

         You are urged to ignore his (forged) e-mails. It's just a "scam" 
and, if you do reply, then do not say that you weren't warned when your 
"Lorenz or Benz" engine mysteriously disappears when you least expect it.

         There are other list members who are also aware of this "scam" and 
I'm sure that they will respond to my warning!

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>  



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sun Jan 24 11:23:07 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:23:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100124194936.00d0bd98@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100124194936.00d0bd98@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <bcb561c7f2be030e4a7cd2a3283af5cd.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Methinks Jerry has too much time on his hands, Jerry does.
8-))

On Sun, January 24, 2010 1:25 pm, Jerry Evans wrote:
> Hi List members,
>          We've been through this all before. There is a "scammer" in our
> midst again! We went through this a year or so back (and for a few years
> prior to that as well).
>
>          This scammer's "Modus Operandi" (sp.) is always the same - he's
> being doing it for a good number of years now. This scammer "hijacks" a
> list members e-mail address (usually a chap whose initials are "A.F" -
> actual name and address withheld to protect the innocent!).
>
>          He makes promises that he (or his accomplice in Britain) is
> finally "writing" a page which promises to "update" the "Lorenz & Benz
> engine registry" (a non -existent webpage).
>
>          In fact all he is doing is gathering your personal information
> (and address) to enable his henchmen to "uplift" your Lorenz or Benz engine.
>
>          You are urged to ignore his (forged) e-mails. It's just a "scam"
> and, if you do reply, then do not say that you weren't warned when your
> "Lorenz or Benz" engine mysteriously disappears when you least expect it.
>
>          There are other list members who are also aware of this "scam" and
> I'm sure that they will respond to my warning!




From mr at carolina.rr.com  Sun Jan 24 14:49:23 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:49:23 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100124194936.00d0bd98@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <00ee01ca9d47$7978d000$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Jerry:

  I feel your pain.  Just this week he scammed me out of serial numbers and 
stats, then videos, promising all the time to "put it in the registry for 
the pleasure, education and benefit of all."  Sadly, I fell for his sales 
pitch and now my information, like others, resides in the great Black Hole 
of Ferodom.  I feel so cheap and unclean.....

MR
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!


> Hi List members,
>         We've been through this all before. There is a "scammer" in our
> midst again! We went through this a year or so back (and for a few years
> prior to that as well).



From mbellar at aol.com  Sun Jan 24 14:59:16 2010
From: mbellar at aol.com (mbellar at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:59:16 EST
Subject: [SEL] Smoke and mirror elusion for Dave
Message-ID: <44d33.7f82a353.388e2ac4@aol.com>

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_pLF5JGAEI_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_pLF5JGAEI) 


From maytagtwin at aol.com  Sun Jan 24 15:43:25 2010
From: maytagtwin at aol.com (maytagtwin at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:43:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
In-Reply-To: <00ee01ca9d47$7978d000$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <00ee01ca9d47$7978d000$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <8CC6B66281F2E85-667C-77E1@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com>

Hi Mike,
?
How sad it is to hear how far our mutual acquaintance has fallen.? There was a time when we looked up to our resident nuke mechanic's wisdom, leadership and guidance.? But, like betrayed altar boys wondering why their favorite priest has gone to Arizona, we mill about looking for solace.? How is it we have come to this low point?? Was it our dis-belief that a smear of fresh goat blood can substitute for pilot sobriety?? Was it the long spring nights in PA with the love ewe?? Was it Dr. John's discovery that a governor can stick in the open position?? We are only sure that our Arnie, the one who makes the big bux pushing particles and living in parallel streams of engine dreams, has betrayed the trust of so many.? We should have known that when the boast of Reddy Kilowatt that electricity would become to cheap to bother to meter proved false,?other lies and mis-directions would surface as well.
?
We may never know the cause, and even if we did, we cannot change the past.? What we?must now do is look to our own government for leadership and guidance and apply the principles so gained to this situation.? With that in mind, I propose we nationalize the Fero Collection and redistribute it amongst ourselves so that we may better protect and enjoy it.? 
?
I would be happy to be in the party to go retrieve the collection, but I am busy that day and, besides, I hear Arnie keeps firearms.? You can just leave my share in the back shed on the McDowell County Maytag Refuge and I'll take it from there.
?
Be of good cheer,
?
Ron
PS:? Does Arnie still have the "fat bastard"???
?
?




-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Royster &lt;mr at carolina.rr.com&gt;
To: The SEL email discussion list &lt;sel at lists.stationary-engine.com&gt;
Sent: Sun, Jan 24, 2010 4:49 pm
Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!




Jerry: 
 
  I feel your pain.  Just this week he scammed me out of serial numbers and  
stats, then videos, promising all the time to "put it in the registry for  
the pleasure, education and benefit of all."  Sadly, I fell for his sales  
pitch and now my information, like others, resides in the great Black Hole  
of Ferodom.  I feel so cheap and unclean..... 
 
MR 
----- Original Message -----  
From: "Jerry Evans" &lt;jerrye at databak.co.za&gt; 
To: &lt;sel at lists.stationary-engine.com&gt; 
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 1:25 PM 
Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !! 
 
 
&gt; Hi List members, 
&gt;         We've been through this all before. There is a "scammer" in our 
&gt; midst again! We went through this a year or so back (and for a few years 
&gt; prior to that as well). 
 
_______________________________________________ 
SEL mailing list 
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com 
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sun Jan 24 17:15:56 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:15:56 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
References: <00ee01ca9d47$7978d000$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
	<8CC6B66281F2E85-667C-77E1@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <630B2CB7094E409780228DF6D2F905B2@regpc>

CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP!!
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle. NSW. Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <maytagtwin at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!


> Hi Mike,
> ?
> How sad it is to hear how far our mutual acquaintance has fallen.? There 
> was a time when we looked up to our resident nuke mechanic's wisdom, 
> leadership and guidance.? But, like betrayed altar boys wondering why 
> their favorite priest has gone to Arizona, we mill about looking for 
> solace.? How is it we have come to this low point?? Was it our dis-belief 
> that a smear of fresh goat blood can substitute for pilot sobriety?? Was 
> it the long spring nights in PA with the love ewe?? Was it Dr. John's 
> discovery that a governor can stick in the open position?? We are only 
> sure that our Arnie, the one who makes the big bux pushing particles and 
> living in parallel streams of engine dreams, has betrayed the trust of so 
> many.? We should have known that when the boast of Reddy Kilowatt that 
> electricity would become to cheap to bother to meter proved false,?other 
> lies and mis-directions would surface as well.
> ?
> We may never know the cause, and even if we did, we cannot change the 
> past.? What we?must now do is look to our own government for leadership 
> and guidance and apply the principles so gained to this situation.? With 
> that in mind, I propose we nationalize the Fero Collection and 
> redistribute it amongst ourselves so that we may better protect and enjoy 
> it.?
> ?
> I would be happy to be in the party to go retrieve the collection, but I 
> am busy that day and, besides, I hear Arnie keeps firearms.? You can just 
> leave my share in the back shed on the McDowell County Maytag Refuge and 
> I'll take it from there.
> ?
> Be of good cheer,
> ?
> Ron
> PS:? Does Arnie still have the "fat bastard"???
> ?
> ?
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Royster &lt;mr at carolina.rr.com&gt;
> To: The SEL email discussion list &lt;sel at lists.stationary-engine.com&gt;
> Sent: Sun, Jan 24, 2010 4:49 pm
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
>
>
>
>
> Jerry:
>
>  I feel your pain.  Just this week he scammed me out of serial numbers and
> stats, then videos, promising all the time to "put it in the registry for
> the pleasure, education and benefit of all."  Sadly, I fell for his sales
> pitch and now my information, like others, resides in the great Black Hole
> of Ferodom.  I feel so cheap and unclean.....
>
> MR
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Evans" &lt;jerrye at databak.co.za&gt;
> To: &lt;sel at lists.stationary-engine.com&gt;
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
>
>
> &gt; Hi List members,
> &gt;         We've been through this all before. There is a "scammer" in 
> our
> &gt; midst again! We went through this a year or so back (and for a few 
> years
> &gt; prior to that as well).
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sun Jan 24 18:05:35 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 21:05:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
In-Reply-To: <630B2CB7094E409780228DF6D2F905B2@regpc>
References: <00ee01ca9d47$7978d000$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
	<8CC6B66281F2E85-667C-77E1@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com>
	<630B2CB7094E409780228DF6D2F905B2@regpc>
Message-ID: <6cba3cbfed1d24a79c522442bca6a127.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Creative bunch ain't they?  8-))

On Sun, January 24, 2010 8:15 pm, Reg Ingold wrote:
> CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP!!




From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Sun Jan 24 18:34:13 2010
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:34:13 +1100
Subject: [SEL] OT     Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
In-Reply-To: <6cba3cbfed1d24a79c522442bca6a127.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <00ee01ca9d47$7978d000$0201a8c0@mikecomp><8CC6B66281F2E85-667C-77E1@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com><630B2CB7094E409780228DF6D2F905B2@regpc>
	<6cba3cbfed1d24a79c522442bca6a127.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <2860D70724344325AD9D7F270260E170@KerryPC>

Specially when there is so much TRUE material to work with 8-))

Kerry


> Creative bunch ain't they?  8-))
> 
> On Sun, January 24, 2010 8:15 pm, Reg Ingold wrote:
>> CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP!!



From mr at carolina.rr.com  Sun Jan 24 19:25:11 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 22:25:11 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
References: <00ee01ca9d47$7978d000$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
	<8CC6B66281F2E85-667C-77E1@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <013e01ca9d6e$00b58560$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Well said Ron.  As far as the Fat Bastard engine goes, well it probably 
belongs to Dave or Dolly and was just on loan.  Of course we could always 
check the the FB Registry!   BWAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!!

mr
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <maytagtwin at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!


> Hi Mike,
> ?
> How sad it is to hear how far our mutual acquaintance has fallen.? There 
> was a time when we looked up to our resident nuke mechanic's wisdom, 
> leadership and guidance.? But, like betrayed altar boys wondering why 
> their favorite priest has gone to Arizona, we mill about looking for 
> solace.? How is it we have come to this low point?? Was it our dis-belief 
> that a smear of fresh goat blood can substitute for pilot sobriety?? Was 
> it the long spring nights in PA with the love ewe?? Was it Dr. John's 
> discovery that a governor can stick in the open position?? We are only 
> sure that our Arnie, the one who makes the big bux pushing particles and 
> living in parallel streams of engine dreams, has betrayed the trust of so 
> many.? We should have known that when the boast of Reddy Kilowatt that 
> electricity would become to cheap to bother to meter proved false,?other 
> lies and mis-directions would surface as well.
> ?
> We may never know the cause, and even if we did, we cannot change the 
> past.? What we?must now do is look to our own government for leadership 
> and guidance and apply the principles so gained to this situation.? With 
> that in mind, I propose we nationalize the Fero Collection and 
> redistribute it amongst ourselves so that we may better protect and enjoy 
> it.?
> ?
> I would be happy to be in the party to go retrieve the collection, but I 
> am busy that day and, besides, I hear Arnie keeps firearms.? You can just 
> leave my share in the back shed on the McDowell County Maytag Refuge and 
> I'll take it from there.
> ?
> Be of good cheer,
> ?
> Ron
> PS:? Does Arnie still have the "fat bastard"???
> ?
> ?
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Royster &lt;mr at carolina.rr.com&gt;
> To: The SEL email discussion list &lt;sel at lists.stationary-engine.com&gt;
> Sent: Sun, Jan 24, 2010 4:49 pm
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
>
>
>
>
> Jerry:
>
>  I feel your pain.  Just this week he scammed me out of serial numbers and
> stats, then videos, promising all the time to "put it in the registry for
> the pleasure, education and benefit of all."  Sadly, I fell for his sales
> pitch and now my information, like others, resides in the great Black Hole
> of Ferodom.  I feel so cheap and unclean.....
>
> MR
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Evans" &lt;jerrye at databak.co.za&gt;
> To: &lt;sel at lists.stationary-engine.com&gt;
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
>
>
> &gt; Hi List members,
> &gt;         We've been through this all before. There is a "scammer" in 
> our
> &gt; midst again! We went through this a year or so back (and for a few 
> years
> &gt; prior to that as well).
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 25 10:48:59 2010
From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:48:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts
Message-ID: <194167.81623.qm@web110211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

http://steampunkwor kshop.com/ skinner-unaflow- steam-engine- needs-new- home

?Ron Frost  ??http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos  ?  Collector of other peoples cultured merchandise


      

From edstoller at earthlink.net  Mon Jan 25 12:55:25 2010
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed Stoller)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:55:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts
References: <194167.81623.qm@web110211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <46CBF6775B7C4304A3C07D0D160BCA4B@edbackup>

Hi Ron,

I could not get the link to work; it looks incomplete.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Frost" <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:48 PM
Subject: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts


http://steampunkwor kshop.com/ skinner-unaflow- steam-engine- needs-new- 
home

Ron Frost  http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos    Collector of 
other peoples cultured merchandise



_______________________________________________
SEL mailing list
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel




From oldironnut at windstream.net  Mon Jan 25 13:27:11 2010
From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:27:11 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts
In-Reply-To: <46CBF6775B7C4304A3C07D0D160BCA4B@edbackup>
References: <194167.81623.qm@web110211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<46CBF6775B7C4304A3C07D0D160BCA4B@edbackup>
Message-ID: <88505EB1-CC0B-4524-932B-ABDA2F0975EF@windstream.net>

On Jan 25, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Ed Stoller wrote:

> Hi Ron,
> 
> I could not get the link to work; it looks incomplete.

It has a few extra spaces in it.  Try <http://steampunkworkshop.com/skinner-unaflow-steam-engine-needs-new-home>

Mike


From Germoamer at aol.com  Mon Jan 25 13:29:28 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:29:28 EST
Subject: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts
Message-ID: <1bd58.47f2ceae.388f6738@aol.com>

<< I could not get the link to work; it looks  incomplete. >>  
 
  Try this:
 
_http://steampunkworkshop.com/_ (http://steampunkworkshop.com/)   

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 25 13:30:51 2010
From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:30:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts
In-Reply-To: <46CBF6775B7C4304A3C07D0D160BCA4B@edbackup>
Message-ID: <622080.17241.qm@web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Try this,

http://steampunkworkshop.com/skinner-unaflow-steam-engine-needs-new-home

Looks like it's still going to have to be copied and pasted.

?Ron Frost  ??http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos  ?  Collector of other peoples cultured merchandise

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, Ed Stoller <edstoller at earthlink.net> wrote:

From: Ed Stoller <edstoller at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 3:55 PM

Hi Ron,

I could not get the link to work; it looks incomplete.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Frost" <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:48 PM
Subject: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts


http://steampunkwor kshop.com/ skinner-unaflow- steam-engine- needs-new- 
home

Ron Frost? http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos? ? Collector of 
other peoples cultured merchandise



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From marinesurveys at msn.com  Mon Jan 25 13:41:52 2010
From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:41:52 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts
In-Reply-To: <46CBF6775B7C4304A3C07D0D160BCA4B@edbackup>
References: <194167.81623.qm@web110211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,
	<46CBF6775B7C4304A3C07D0D160BCA4B@edbackup>
Message-ID: <COL106-W639D3DAA1D563A90D7D9C2B45F0@phx.gbl>


Ed; copy paste into the search line

http://steampunkwor kshop.com          then look for the Skinner Uniflo

        Franklin S. Skinner 
    Marine Surveyor & Consultant 
3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 
       34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West 
PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470



 
> From: edstoller at earthlink.net
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:55:25 -0500
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts
> 
> Hi Ron,
> 
> I could not get the link to work; it looks incomplete.
> 
> Ed Stoller
> New Fairfield, CT
> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Frost" <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com>
> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:48 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts
> 
> 
> http://steampunkwor kshop.com/ skinner-unaflow- steam-engine- needs-new- 
> home
> 
> Ron Frost http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos Collector of 
> other peoples cultured merchandise
> 
> 
> 
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Mon Jan 25 14:30:09 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:30:09 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Happy Australia Day
Message-ID: <C78466A1.3AC5%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

A very Happy Australia Day to all my fellow Australians!

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Jan 25 14:57:22 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:57:22 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Happy Australia Day
References: <C78466A1.3AC5%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000401ca9e11$c1132350$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

and many more from the Yanks!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:30 PM
Subject: [SEL] Happy Australia Day


>A very Happy Australia Day to all my fellow Australians!
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
>
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Jan 25 14:59:47 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:59:47 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Webster mag brackets
Message-ID: <001d01ca9e12$17f9fea0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Posting this for Craig in Scotland.

        Do you know if there is anyone reproducing Webster brackets? I desperately need one for a WisconaPep engine of 1 1/2hp, as far as I know it is a 303M56 bracket ,Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks, 
Craig Morroson

From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au  Tue Jan 26 03:05:35 2010
From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:05:35 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Happy Australia Day
In-Reply-To: <C78466A1.3AC5%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <C78466A1.3AC5%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <02f801ca9e77$7bff82c0$73fe8840$@com.au>

Thanks Patrick - you too. I celebrated by cranking up one of the only
engines I have left... An Australian Southern Cross P 4HP. I hadn't had it
running for over three years. Amazing, I put some fresh fuel into the carby
and cranked it up - off it went, it even kept running on the old crap in the
fuel tank after the fresh stuff ran out. Cool. This came about because one
of my neighbours was fool enough to say it has been much quieter since I
sold my engines ;).

Regards
Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick
Livingstone
Sent: Tuesday, 26 January 2010 9:30 AM
To: ATIS; Oldengine
Subject: [SEL] Happy Australia Day

A very Happy Australia Day to all my fellow Australians!

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
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From edurand at mchsi.com  Tue Jan 26 07:34:14 2010
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:34:14 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Spam> RE:  Happy Australia Day
In-Reply-To: <02f801ca9e77$7bff82c0$73fe8840$@com.au>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBCEDJIKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Paul:

I hope you took the muffler off and pointed the exhaust pipe toward your neighbor's house.   :-)

Happy Australia Day!

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Paul
> Pavlinovich
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 05:06 AM
> To: 'The SEL email discussion list'
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Happy Australia Day
> 
....................snip.......................... 
> This came about because one
> of my neighbours was fool enough to say it has 
> been much quieter since I
> sold my engines ;).
> 
> Regards
> Paul




From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au  Wed Jan 27 19:42:14 2010
From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:42:14 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Spam> RE:  Happy Australia Day
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBCEDJIKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
References: <02f801ca9e77$7bff82c0$73fe8840$@com.au>
	<OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBCEDJIKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <000001ca9fcb$e216c140$a64443c0$@com.au>

Muffler? What are they for? It doesn't have a pipe on when it is in the shed
(too tall). The steel shed did vibrate with every chuff so I hope he enjoyed
it.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Elden DuRand
Sent: Wednesday, 27 January 2010 2:34 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Spam> RE: Happy Australia Day

Paul:

I hope you took the muffler off and pointed the exhaust pipe toward your
neighbor's house.   :-)

Happy Australia Day!

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Paul
> Pavlinovich
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 05:06 AM
> To: 'The SEL email discussion list'
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Happy Australia Day
> 
....................snip.......................... 
> This came about because one
> of my neighbours was fool enough to say it has 
> been much quieter since I
> sold my engines ;).
> 
> Regards
> Paul


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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Wed Jan 27 20:04:00 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:04:00 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Warning on TOMM website: Conman at work (again)
Message-ID: <C78757E0.3B4B%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

We have been contacted by a number of readers of the magazine letting us
know that there is a conman at work. Back in 2005, a person by the name of
Rodney Worth was contacting subscribers who were advertising in the magazine
under the wanted section. He would offer the part to the advertiser at a
good price and even offer to freight it to the buyer within a day or two,
also at a good price.
Already, in the last 2 days, one subscriber has lost $800, and another, who
became suspicious, nearly lost $1,500.
The name of the person contacting our readers is a Mr Gorman, who says he
lives in Sydney. He will ask you to deposit or transfer your money to Credit
Union of Australia,? CUA. He uses a mobile phone number.
If you have had contact with this person you should contact your local
police station first, and ask them to contact Illawarra? detectives? in NSW.
Areas that he has targeted so far, are Colac in Vic, and Wauchope, NSW.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html






From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au  Wed Jan 27 20:05:03 2010
From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:05:03 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Urgent! Large steamengines about to be scrapped - can you
	save them?
Message-ID: <000a01ca9fcf$120e1580$362a4080$@com.au>

 

Please see this article for details

 

http://www.steamengine.com.au/index.php/component/content/article/1-home/277
-large-steam-engines-about-to-be-scrapped-can-you-save-them

 

Paul



From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au  Wed Jan 27 20:44:13 2010
From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:44:13 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Warning on TOMM website: Conman at work (again)
In-Reply-To: <C78757E0.3B4B%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <C78757E0.3B4B%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001ca9fd4$8a97fca0$9fc7f5e0$@com.au>

The idiot is still using the same name? I guess he wants back inside for
another stretch.

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick
Livingstone
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 3:04 PM
To: ATIS; Oldengine
Subject: [SEL] Warning on TOMM website: Conman at work (again)

We have been contacted by a number of readers of the magazine letting us
know that there is a conman at work. Back in 2005, a person by the name of
Rodney Worth was contacting subscribers who were advertising in the magazine
under the wanted section. He would offer the part to the advertiser at a
good price and even offer to freight it to the buyer within a day or two,
also at a good price.
Already, in the last 2 days, one subscriber has lost $800, and another, who
became suspicious, nearly lost $1,500.
The name of the person contacting our readers is a Mr Gorman, who says he
lives in Sydney. He will ask you to deposit or transfer your money to Credit
Union of Australia,? CUA. He uses a mobile phone number.
If you have had contact with this person you should contact your local
police station first, and ask them to contact Illawarra? detectives? in NSW.
Areas that he has targeted so far, are Colac in Vic, and Wauchope, NSW.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
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From k_armstrong at arach.net.au  Wed Jan 27 21:20:33 2010
From: k_armstrong at arach.net.au (kevin armstrong)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:20:33 +0800
Subject: [SEL] sunshine engine
Message-ID: <B4E00BFB3B654AED9480A43B3E2DE11A@armstrong>

    Hello all,
 I have a 3 hp Sunshine 2 stroke type C petrol engine parts for sale

muffler complete with top
id plate s/n 3532
crank shaft
flywheels and governor assemble

contact me off list for photos etc
regards

Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong
Collectors of old things
Perth
WA 
Australia
Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member 
V.C.C. of WA. member 
k_armstrong at arach.net.au
www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong


From rustyiron1 at bigpond.com  Thu Jan 28 01:15:45 2010
From: rustyiron1 at bigpond.com (rustyiron1)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:15:45 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Warning on TOMM website: Conman at work (again)
References: <C78757E0.3B4B%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0D599C56EB214FEAA60DA6A2A0DB4318@Andy>

Thanks for the heads up Patrick, I was one of the ones that got caught by 
"Rodney Worth" in 2005.

Andy Nicholson
Brandon Qld
OZ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:04 PM
Subject: [SEL] Warning on TOMM website: Conman at work (again)


We have been contacted by a number of readers of the magazine letting us
know that there is a conman at work. Back in 2005, a person by the name of
Rodney Worth was contacting subscribers who were advertising in the magazine
under the wanted section. He would offer the part to the advertiser at a
good price and even offer to freight it to the buyer within a day or two,
also at a good price.
Already, in the last 2 days, one subscriber has lost $800, and another, who
became suspicious, nearly lost $1,500.
The name of the person contacting our readers is a Mr Gorman, who says he
lives in Sydney. He will ask you to deposit or transfer your money to Credit
Union of Australia, CUA. He uses a mobile phone number.
If you have had contact with this person you should contact your local
police station first, and ask them to contact Illawarra detectives in NSW.
Areas that he has targeted so far, are Colac in Vic, and Wauchope, NSW.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Thu Jan 28 02:14:38 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:14:38 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Warning on TOMM website: Conman at work (again)
References: <C78757E0.3B4B%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
	<0D599C56EB214FEAA60DA6A2A0DB4318@Andy>
Message-ID: <383D8504C4894330AD6ED43D8080BC4C@regpc>

ok. NOW, how CAN US, AS A GROUP, catch HIM?
Brains  in top gear lads. We surely can "can" this dude.
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle. NSW. Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "rustyiron1" <rustyiron1 at bigpond.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Warning on TOMM website: Conman at work (again)


> Thanks for the heads up Patrick, I was one of the ones that got caught by
> "Rodney Worth" in 2005.
>
> Andy Nicholson
> Brandon Qld
> OZ
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
> To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine"
> <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:04 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Warning on TOMM website: Conman at work (again)
>
>
> We have been contacted by a number of readers of the magazine letting us
> know that there is a conman at work. Back in 2005, a person by the name of
> Rodney Worth was contacting subscribers who were advertising in the 
> magazine
> under the wanted section. He would offer the part to the advertiser at a
> good price and even offer to freight it to the buyer within a day or two,
> also at a good price.
> Already, in the last 2 days, one subscriber has lost $800, and another, 
> who
> became suspicious, nearly lost $1,500.
> The name of the person contacting our readers is a Mr Gorman, who says he
> lives in Sydney. He will ask you to deposit or transfer your money to 
> Credit
> Union of Australia, CUA. He uses a mobile phone number.
> If you have had contact with this person you should contact your local
> police station first, and ask them to contact Illawarra detectives in NSW.
> Areas that he has targeted so far, are Colac in Vic, and Wauchope, NSW.
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
>
>
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From marinesurveys at msn.com  Fri Jan 29 05:48:35 2010
From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:48:35 -0500
Subject: [SEL] F-M timing gear / Gov.
In-Reply-To: <6715F08B244F44688FAB0E1430A9585E@BA8718F5>
References: <002101caa079$31c0b400$95421c00$@net>,
	<6715F08B244F44688FAB0E1430A9585E@BA8718F5>
Message-ID: <COL106-W64D3089A041B2EDC304DF7B45B0@phx.gbl>


for anyone intersted in the above , go to E-Bay  link below

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hit-Miss-Engine-Timing-Gear-Governor-Fairbanks-Morse_W0QQitemZ220546596761QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item335999ff99

 

or E-Bay item # 220546596761

        Franklin S. Skinner 
    Marine Surveyor & Consultant 
3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 
       34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West 
PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470



 


From: leo at bleedingartindustries.com
To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: RE: someone want this?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:38:12 -0700





Steam punk people are pretty genuine folk.  It is an art movement (like goth or punk or emo) based in the idea of what the world would have looked like without the gas engine if everything was run by steam.  It is a growing movement and you can usually tell which ones they are cause they look like something out of any Jules Verne novel walking down your street.  Unless you work in the entertainment industry, it can be kinda weird to spot.  They are highly creative with their props and do some fantastic work.  That said you really have to do your due diligence.  I would talk to him and see what he is all about.
 
Great photos and very good writing style.
 
L
www.engineutopia.com
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org [mailto:stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org] On Behalf Of William Miller
Sent: January 28, 2010 5:23 PM
To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: someone want this?
 
A friend sent me this link, just wonder if it?s genuine
 
 
http://steampunkworkshop.com/skinner-unaflow-steam-engine-needs-new-home
 
 
Bill Miller


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From falcon at telenet.net  Fri Jan 29 10:13:59 2010
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:13:59 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
Message-ID: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net>

For anyone interested in how they used to keep things cold prior to the
refrigerator.

http://millersmillsny.com/

If it stays cold for the next couple of weeks they should get some good
ice this year.

Oh, if you plan on coming wear good boots. It gets wet on the ice at
times. A set of ice cleats isn't a bad idea either...

-- 
Steve W.



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Fri Jan 29 14:21:28 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:21:28 +0200
Subject: [SEL] My club website
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100129234510.00cdbd78@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys 'n Gals,
         I've been appointed as the webmaster for our club and have just 
revamped the whole design of the site (which was a mess).

         It still has a long way to go and one or two of the links in the 
menu do not work (simply because I'm still waiting for information for 
those pages). (I'm beginning to understand how Dolly must feel waiting for 
Arnie to do the Lorenz Register :-)) The committee are real keen about some 
ideas but when it gets down to sending me information it's like drawing 
blood from a stone!)

         One pages is still filled with "Lorem ipsum" (That latin text that 
printers use when doing a rough layout) because, again, I'm waiting for 
others !!

         I'm quite proud of the "banner" on the top right - all my own work :-)

Please have a look:
<www.vaaloldwheels.org.za>

         I'd really appreciate some criticism and input.

         The pages are opitimised for monitors set to 1360 x 788 pixels so 
may not look too good on lower resolutions. I'd like to know what others think.

         Also, it was designed for a decent browser (Firefox) - That thing 
from Microsoft (IE) renders the colours in the menu incorrectly and also 
screws up some of the page formatting but I'll get down to sorting that out 
later.


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>  



From edurand at mchsi.com  Fri Jan 29 16:45:34 2010
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:45:34 -0600
Subject: [SEL] My club website
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100129234510.00cdbd78@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBGEEMIKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Jerry:

Nice site!

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Jerry Evans
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 04:21 PM
> To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; 
> sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Cc: slick at toltbbs.com
> Subject: [SEL] My club website




From rotigel at me.com  Fri Jan 29 16:06:04 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:06:04 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Fwd: [AT] Ice harvest coming up next month
References: <fc46da462fdef.4b6312d7@insightbb.com>
Message-ID: <D34B22DA-AF0E-48C9-9880-B342C2F26592@me.com>

This was a topic recently on the tractor List. Some of you might be  
interested in going to the site and looking at the video.
	Dave


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Larry Goss <rlgoss at insightbb.com>
> Date: January 29, 2010 5:54:47 PM EST
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com 
> >
> Subject: Re: [AT] Ice harvest coming up next month
> Reply-To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com 
> >
>
> Very interesting site, Steve.  It brings to mind entries in my  
> grandmother's diary where she describes the process of filling the  
> ice house on the farm in Colorado.  They lived on the St. Vrain  
> below Lyons, and had several irrigation lakes on the farm which were  
> fed by the river coming down from Estes Park.
>
> I was very interested in the particulars of the ice house in the  
> video.  It is smaller than I expected -- the one on the farm in  
> Colorado was at least twice as large in all dimensions -- 8 times as  
> much ice.  Dad said it got filled every winter, and they always had  
> ice available for an ice cream social every summer.
>
> I expected to see sawdust being used in conjunction with the  
> storage.  That's a detail that is missing from my father's  
> description, but he implied to me that they could not have done it  
> without sawdust.  By the time I was visiting on the farm during  
> summer vacations, refrigeration was well-established and the ice  
> house stood empty year-around.
>
> Larry
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
> Date: Friday, January 29, 2010 12:23
> Subject: [AT] Ice harvest coming up next month
> To: ATIS LIST <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>, Engine list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com 
> >
>
>> For anyone interested in how they used to keep things cold prior
>> to the
>> refrigerator.
>>
>> http://millersmillsny.com/
>>
>> If it stays cold for the next couple of weeks they should get
>> some good
>> ice this year.
>>
>> Oh, if you plan on coming wear good boots. It gets wet on the
>> ice at
>> times. A set of ice cleats isn't a bad idea either...
>>
>> -- 
>> Steve W.


From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Fri Jan 29 18:15:05 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:15:05 -0500
Subject: [SEL] My club website
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100129234510.00cdbd78@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <8A97937D3916449B86A150B3B50C7FB9@tommydk7hxjr4h>

Jerry,
	I like the layout and how you have the links set up.  While I'm
not a "web expert", I like it!

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY





Please have a look:
<www.vaaloldwheels.org.za>

         



From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Fri Jan 29 19:00:29 2010
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:00:29 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net>
References: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net>
Message-ID: <BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl>

Steve..do they use the ice plow pulled by the team?

Got a plow here, just need the handles.

RickinMt.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve W.<mailto:falcon at telenet.net> 
  To: ATIS LIST<mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com> ; Engine list<mailto:sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> 
  Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 11:13 AM
  Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month


  For anyone interested in how they used to keep things cold prior to the
  refrigerator.

  http://millersmillsny.com/<http://millersmillsny.com/>

  If it stays cold for the next couple of weeks they should get some good
  ice this year.

  Oh, if you plan on coming wear good boots. It gets wet on the ice at
  times. A set of ice cleats isn't a bad idea either...

  -- 
  Steve W.

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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Jan 29 21:24:58 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:24:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
Message-ID: <67865e072fac5ad31378c0ba1f1e3751.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Folks,

Wanna join a movement?  I read this really interesting article about a microbrewery
in Youngstown, Ohio located within spitting distance of the Tod Engine. 
http://www.todengine.org/

It's the Rust Belt Brewing Company.  http://www.rustybrew.com/
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031442-389.stm

The first thought that came to mind was that the Tod Engine would make for an
awesome label for one of their brews (a steam beer perhaps?).

The second thought that came to mind was that Rusty Brew could become the signature
beer for the stationary engine fans!

So, check 'em out, drop 'em a line at rustybrew at gmail.com, or join 'em on FaceBook.
I'd really like to see that Tod Engine beer!!

See ya,  Arnie

PS - If you're in the neighborhood of the Tod Engine, check out the establishment
that's been voted No. 2 best beer retailer in the world.
http://www.vintage-estate.com

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031444-389.stm





From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Fri Jan 29 21:53:10 2010
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:53:10 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl>
References: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net>
	<BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4B63C946.4070305@xplornet.com>

Hello Rick,
	Can you post a picture of the ice plow? I have never seen one as they 
used hand saws around here during the ice age. Rural power came in 
around here in the early '50s. Bye the way, most ice houses in this area 
were in the ground like shallow hand dug wells.

Rupert

On 1/29/2010 8:00 PM, Richard Strobel wrote:
> Steve..do they use the ice plow pulled by the team?
>
> Got a plow here, just need the handles.
>
> RickinMt.
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Steve W.<mailto:falcon at telenet.net>
>    To: ATIS LIST<mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>  ; Engine list<mailto:sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>    Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 11:13 AM
>    Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
>
>
>    For anyone interested in how they used to keep things cold prior to the
>    refrigerator.
>
>    http://millersmillsny.com/<http://millersmillsny.com/>
>
>    If it stays cold for the next couple of weeks they should get some good
>    ice this year.
>
>    Oh, if you plan on coming wear good boots. It gets wet on the ice at
>    times. A set of ice cleats isn't a bad idea either...
>
>    --
>    Steve W.
>
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yvt

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Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://users.xplornet.com/~rwenig/Home/


From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Sat Jan 30 02:05:58 2010
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:05:58 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net>
References: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net>
Message-ID: <C607B1C9F3CC4BFC97E2C5DAD5DBE627@KerryPC>

Thanks Steve, Dave
Something that is a totally different way of life to what we down here are 
used to

Kerry
Lithgow NSW Oz



> For anyone interested in how they used to keep things cold prior to the
> refrigerator.
>
> http://millersmillsny.com/
>



From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sat Jan 30 03:29:50 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 22:29:50 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Sessions Clock movement wanted OT
Message-ID: <D7CD295B7AC2458090513DCF5B79B019@peterlowe>

Hi all
OT but I want to ask you Yanks a question.
I have a Sessions Clock that was my grand mothers and the escapement movement bearings are badly worn, sufficiently enough that it will not keep running as the gears jam.
Do any of you seriously collect clocks that you might have a spare movement.
The model is a Session "Ardmore", it dings on the half hour and soft deep chime on the hour.
I guess I could silver solder up the old bearings and drill new holes :-((((
Any help would be appreciated.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Skype name: ozengines

From Germoamer at aol.com  Sat Jan 30 04:41:34 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 07:41:34 EST
Subject: [SEL] Sessions Clock movement wanted OT
Message-ID: <de4.365725fd.389582fe@aol.com>

Peter,
 
I would take it to a clock repair shop and have an estimate to  repair.  I 
have a friend in that business and it is amazing what they  rebuild.  Too 
bad you are not close as he is a great guy and very good at  what he does.  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From falcon at telenet.net  Sat Jan 30 05:39:07 2010
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 08:39:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl>
References: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net>
	<BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4B64367B.2000302@telenet.net>

Richard Strobel wrote:
> Steve..do they use the ice plow pulled by the team?
> 
> Got a plow here, just need the handles.
> 
> RickinMt.

It depends on the number of folks watching and working. If they have a
lot they do a progression type show where they demonstrate the oldest
technique, then the rotary plow and then the latest gear (which are
specially shielded chain saws using non toxic lube for the chain).

If they only have a smaller crowd they use the rotary plow.


-- 
Steve W.



From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Sat Jan 30 06:40:47 2010
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 07:40:47 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net><BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl>
	<4B63C946.4070305@xplornet.com>
References: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net><BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl>
	<4B63C946.4070305@xplornet.com>
Message-ID: <BAY113-DS9843AE6DA91A5884CA847BB5A0@phx.gbl>

Howdee Rupert;
    The last two pictures are of my plow and the first gives one a good idea of how they were used.  I believe it to be all hand forged..maybe not the cutting teeth.
   A friend of mine said that in many cases a small area was dyked up and flooded and harvested.  He says he can still show me the remains of some.  I have never seen one work up close and personal.

http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/561833262SwcYLc<http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/561833262SwcYLc>

Regards,
RickinMt.
PS:  Sorry for the html gang.  I don't know how to change that in a reply





  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rupert<mailto:rwenig2 at xplornet.com> 
  To: The SEL email discussion list<mailto:sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> 
  Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month


  Hello Rick,
  Can you post a picture of the ice plow? I have never seen one as they 
  used hand saws around here during the ice age. Rural power came in 
  around here in the early '50s. Bye the way, most ice houses in this area 
  were in the ground like shallow hand dug wells.

  Rupert

  On 1/29/2010 8:00 PM, Richard Strobel wrote:
  > Steve..do they use the ice plow pulled by the team?
  >
  > Got a plow here, just need the handles.
  >
  > RickinMt.
  >    ----- Original Message -----
  >    From: Steve W.<mailto:falcon at telenet.net<mailto:falcon at telenet.net>>
  >    To: ATIS LIST<mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com<mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>>  ; Engine list<mailto:sel at lists.stationary-engine.com<mailto:sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>>
  >    Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 11:13 AM
  >    Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
  >
  >
  >    For anyone interested in how they used to keep things cold prior to the
  >    refrigerator.
  >
  >    http://millersmillsny.com/<http://millersmillsny.com/<http://millersmillsny.com/%3Chttp://millersmillsny.com/>>
  >
  >    If it stays cold for the next couple of weeks they should get some good
  >    ice this year.
  >
  >    Oh, if you plan on coming wear good boots. It gets wet on the ice at
  >    times. A set of ice cleats isn't a bad idea either...
  >
  >    --
  >    Steve W.
  >
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  >    SEL mailing list
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  yvt

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From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Sat Jan 30 07:19:35 2010
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 08:19:35 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DS9843AE6DA91A5884CA847BB5A0@phx.gbl>
References: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net><BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl>	<4B63C946.4070305@xplornet.com>
	<BAY113-DS9843AE6DA91A5884CA847BB5A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4B644E07.8040309@xplornet.com>

	Thanks Rick. I don't think I've seen a plow like that before. Most ice 
was cut with hand saws around here.

Rupert

On 1/30/2010 7:40 AM, Richard Strobel wrote:
> Howdee Rupert;
>      The last two pictures are of my plow and the first gives one a good idea of how they were used.  I believe it to be all hand forged..maybe not the cutting teeth.
>     A friend of mine said that in many cases a small area was dyked up and flooded and harvested.  He says he can still show me the remains of some.  I have never seen one work up close and personal.
>
> http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/561833262SwcYLc<http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/561833262SwcYLc>
>
> Regards,
> RickinMt.
> PS:  Sorry for the html gang.  I don't know how to change that in a reply
>
-- 

yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://users.xplornet.com/~rwenig/Home/


From blcksmth at wcnet.org  Sat Jan 30 07:46:27 2010
From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:46:27 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Sessions Clock movement wanted OT
In-Reply-To: <D7CD295B7AC2458090513DCF5B79B019@peterlowe>
References: <D7CD295B7AC2458090513DCF5B79B019@peterlowe>
Message-ID: <C12E99EE65844CBA91270C0E77ED9295@Eagle>


	A clock repair shop should be able to insert new bushings for the
worn bearings. I had a grandfather clock repaired that way. 


Bob Willman
Bowling Green, Ohio
The Eagle's Anvil
WB8NQW

Before any man can be considered as a member of civil society, he must be
considered as a subject of the Governor of the Universe.
James Madison
-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:30 AM
To: ATIS; Oldengine.org
Subject: [SEL] Sessions Clock movement wanted OT

Hi all
OT but I want to ask you Yanks a question.
I have a Sessions Clock that was my grand mothers and the escapement
movement bearings are badly worn, sufficiently enough that it will not keep
running as the gears jam.
Do any of you seriously collect clocks that you might have a spare movement.
The model is a Session "Ardmore", it dings on the half hour and soft deep
chime on the hour.
I guess I could silver solder up the old bearings and drill new holes :-((((
Any help would be appreciated.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Skype name: ozengines
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SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Jan 30 08:28:56 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 11:28:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DS9843AE6DA91A5884CA847BB5A0@phx.gbl>
References: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net><BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl>
	<4B63C946.4070305@xplornet.com>
	<BAY113-DS9843AE6DA91A5884CA847BB5A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <d8000a9b6dfa35633db7993b52356122.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Rick,  That's a pretty nifty gadget.  I had been wondering how this "ice plow" would
work.  Thanks!!

See ya,  Arnie

On Sat, January 30, 2010 9:40 am, Richard Strobel wrote:
> Howdee Rupert;
>     The last two pictures are of my plow and the first gives one a good idea of how
> they were used.  I believe it to be all hand forged..maybe not the cutting
> teeth.
>    A friend of mine said that in many cases a small area was dyked up and flooded
> and harvested.  He says he can still show me the remains of some.  I have never
> seen one work up close and personal.
>
> http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/561833262SwcYLc<http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/561833262SwcYLc>





From bmatthews at matthewsfarm.com  Sat Jan 30 08:26:36 2010
From: bmatthews at matthewsfarm.com (Bob Matthews)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 11:26:36 -0500
Subject: [SEL] My club website
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100129234510.00cdbd78@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100129234510.00cdbd78@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <4B645DBC.2050009@matthewsfarm.com>

Jerry,
Nice website.  The only thing that I noticed was that the 
title-origin-banner at the top of the page seemed to blend in to the 
whole page and not stand out much.  Possibly adding color to the graphic 
, or it may just be my older monitor.


-- 
<< Bob Matthews, NW Ohio >>

Jerry Evans wrote:

> 
>          I'd really appreciate some criticism and input.
> 


From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Sat Jan 30 08:36:44 2010
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:36:44 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net><BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl><4B63C946.4070305@xplornet.com><BAY113-DS9843AE6DA91A5884CA847BB5A0@phx.gbl>
	<d8000a9b6dfa35633db7993b52356122.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net><BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl><4B63C946.4070305@xplornet.com><BAY113-DS9843AE6DA91A5884CA847BB5A0@phx.gbl>
	<d8000a9b6dfa35633db7993b52356122.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <BAY113-DS1EA790241E014CE334158BB5A0@phx.gbl>

yea..it's kinda kewl.  If you start at the front the teeth keep getting deeper.  I'd like to see how deep it would cut in one pass.  I might have more pictures to post on Webshots...will take a look.

later,
Rick
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Arnie Fero<mailto:fero_ah at city-net.com> 
  To: The SEL email discussion list<mailto:sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> 
  Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month


  Rick,  That's a pretty nifty gadget.  I had been wondering how this "ice plow" would
  work.  Thanks!!

  See ya,  Arnie

  On Sat, January 30, 2010 9:40 am, Richard Strobel wrote:
  > Howdee Rupert;
  >     The last two pictures are of my plow and the first gives one a good idea of how
  > they were used.  I believe it to be all hand forged..maybe not the cutting
  > teeth.
  >    A friend of mine said that in many cases a small area was dyked up and flooded
  > and harvested.  He says he can still show me the remains of some.  I have never
  > seen one work up close and personal.
  >
  > http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/561833262SwcYLc<http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/561833262SwcYLc<http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/561833262SwcYLc%3Chttp://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/561833262SwcYLc>>



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From rob at rustyiron.com  Sat Jan 30 08:37:25 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 08:37:25 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <67865e072fac5ad31378c0ba1f1e3751.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <67865e072fac5ad31378c0ba1f1e3751.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <3178CA1C-65F6-4D64-8BEF-57C621359688@rustyiron.com>

It appears that you might have discovered a new party spot for Tod  
enthusiasts when they visit the engine.  And it looks like Rick has  
already set up some kind of mutually beneficial agreement between  
himself and the brewery?check the web page.  Honestly, though, I  
seriously doubt that anyone can brew good beer east of the Rockies.   
Don't feel badly about it, though, it's the result of tradition.

As you know, the best engines in the world were built here in  
California.  In order to lure the best engineers, the best foundrymen,  
and the best machinists, engine manufacturers were forced to establish  
a brewing infrastructure based upon the world's finest hops, the most  
skilled brewmasters, and the most sophisticated breweries, which all  
produced the worlds best beer.  Now it's a tradition that has been  
passed down from generation to generation of western brewers.

So, Arnie, how many gallons per week is the current fee for  
experienced shills?

	
Rob Skinner
Antique Stationary Engines
La Habra, California

rob at rustyiron.com
www.rustyiron.com





On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> Wanna join a movement?  I read this really interesting article about  
> a microbrewery
> in Youngstown, Ohio located within spitting distance of the Tod  
> Engine.
> http://www.todengine.org/
>
> It's the Rust Belt Brewing Company.  http://www.rustybrew.com/
> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031442-389.stm
>
> The first thought that came to mind was that the Tod Engine would  
> make for an
> awesome label for one of their brews (a steam beer perhaps?).
>
> The second thought that came to mind was that Rusty Brew could  
> become the signature
> beer for the stationary engine fans!
>
> So, check 'em out, drop 'em a line at rustybrew at gmail.com, or join  
> 'em on FaceBook.
> I'd really like to see that Tod Engine beer!!
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> PS - If you're in the neighborhood of the Tod Engine, check out the  
> establishment
> that's been voted No. 2 best beer retailer in the world.
> http://www.vintage-estate.com
>
> Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031444-389.stm
>



From bgrimley at bellsouth.net  Sat Jan 30 09:06:38 2010
From: bgrimley at bellsouth.net (Bill Grimley)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:06:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <3178CA1C-65F6-4D64-8BEF-57C621359688@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <831209.78319.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Rob;
Have you seen this website?? Check out numbers 1 thru 4 - - - think those are east of MS.
Bill

http://ratebeer.com/Ratebeerbest/table_2010.asp?title=Best+Beers+of+the+United+States+2010&file=usa_beer_2010.csv

--- On Sat, 1/30/10, Rob Skinner <rob at rustyiron.com> wrote:

From: Rob Skinner <rob at rustyiron.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
To: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
Cc: "SEL ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>, "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 11:37 AM

It appears that you might have discovered a new party spot for Tod? 
enthusiasts when they visit the engine.? And it looks like Rick has? 
already set up some kind of mutually beneficial agreement between? 
himself and the brewery?check the web page.? Honestly, though, I? 
seriously doubt that anyone can brew good beer east of the Rockies.???
Don't feel badly about it, though, it's the result of tradition.

As you know, the best engines in the world were built here in? 
California.? In order to lure the best engineers, the best foundrymen,? 
and the best machinists, engine manufacturers were forced to establish? 
a brewing infrastructure based upon the world's finest hops, the most? 
skilled brewmasters, and the most sophisticated breweries, which all? 
produced the worlds best beer.? Now it's a tradition that has been? 
passed down from generation to generation of western brewers.

So, Arnie, how many gallons per week is the current fee for? 
experienced shills?

??? 
Rob Skinner
Antique Stationary Engines
La Habra, California

rob at rustyiron.com
www.rustyiron.com





On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> Wanna join a movement?? I read this really interesting article about? 
> a microbrewery
> in Youngstown, Ohio located within spitting distance of the Tod? 
> Engine.
> http://www.todengine.org/
>
> It's the Rust Belt Brewing Company.? http://www.rustybrew.com/
> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031442-389.stm
>
> The first thought that came to mind was that the Tod Engine would? 
> make for an
> awesome label for one of their brews (a steam beer perhaps?).
>
> The second thought that came to mind was that Rusty Brew could? 
> become the signature
> beer for the stationary engine fans!
>
> So, check 'em out, drop 'em a line at rustybrew at gmail.com, or join? 
> 'em on FaceBook.
> I'd really like to see that Tod Engine beer!!
>
> See ya,? Arnie
>
> PS - If you're in the neighborhood of the Tod Engine, check out the? 
> establishment
> that's been voted No. 2 best beer retailer in the world.
> http://www.vintage-estate.com
>
> Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031444-389.stm
>

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From Germoamer at aol.com  Sat Jan 30 09:13:38 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:13:38 EST
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
Message-ID: <7309.7e7d47d0.3895c2c2@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 1/30/2010 11:27:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,  
fero_ah at city-net.com writes:

A  friend of mine said that in many cases a small area was dyked up and  
flooded
> and harvested.  He says he can still show me the remains  of some.  I 
have never
> seen one work up close and  personal.

There are the remains of two small ice ponds here on our farm.  They  are 
located in a low area in the woods along a branch, and shaded by the North  
side of a hill.  The dug out ice house was filled in a number of years  ago.  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sat Jan 30 09:24:52 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:24:52 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DS9843AE6DA91A5884CA847BB5A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DA23596644524F18906B6A2A10CEAF2A@tommydk7hxjr4h>

There was a nice article on ice harvesting in Farm Collector magazine a
couple of years ago.  Pretty interesting to see what folks used to have
to do.  

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



From mr at carolina.rr.com  Sat Jan 30 09:34:48 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:34:48 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
References: <67865e072fac5ad31378c0ba1f1e3751.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<3178CA1C-65F6-4D64-8BEF-57C621359688@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <003c01caa1d2$889ff970$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

I think I'm gonna heave.....  all that "best of" is making me reel.....


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Skinner" <rob at rustyiron.com>
To: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
Cc: "SEL ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine.org" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew


It appears that you might have discovered a new party spot for Tod
enthusiasts when they visit the engine.  And it looks like Rick has
already set up some kind of mutually beneficial agreement between
himself and the brewery?check the web page.  Honestly, though, I
seriously doubt that anyone can brew good beer east of the Rockies.
Don't feel badly about it, though, it's the result of tradition.

As you know, the best engines in the world were built here in
California.  In order to lure the best engineers, the best foundrymen,
and the best machinists, engine manufacturers were forced to establish
a brewing infrastructure based upon the world's finest hops, the most
skilled brewmasters, and the most sophisticated breweries, which all
produced the worlds best beer.  Now it's a tradition that has been
passed down from generation to generation of western brewers.

So, Arnie, how many gallons per week is the current fee for
experienced shills?


Rob Skinner
Antique Stationary Engines
La Habra, California

rob at rustyiron.com
www.rustyiron.com





On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> Wanna join a movement?  I read this really interesting article about
> a microbrewery
> in Youngstown, Ohio located within spitting distance of the Tod
> Engine.
> http://www.todengine.org/
>
> It's the Rust Belt Brewing Company.  http://www.rustybrew.com/
> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031442-389.stm
>
> The first thought that came to mind was that the Tod Engine would
> make for an
> awesome label for one of their brews (a steam beer perhaps?).
>
> The second thought that came to mind was that Rusty Brew could
> become the signature
> beer for the stationary engine fans!
>
> So, check 'em out, drop 'em a line at rustybrew at gmail.com, or join
> 'em on FaceBook.
> I'd really like to see that Tod Engine beer!!
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> PS - If you're in the neighborhood of the Tod Engine, check out the
> establishment
> that's been voted No. 2 best beer retailer in the world.
> http://www.vintage-estate.com
>
> Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031444-389.stm
>

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From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sat Jan 30 09:40:32 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:40:32 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <831209.78319.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <14E25ACC58C745919BE5D9C83F267230@tommydk7hxjr4h>

Rob,
	The weak stuff may be best made in CA.  The REAL stuff is made
here in KY.  I can smell the mash out my back door!

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY




Honestly, though, I? 
seriously doubt that anyone can brew good beer east of the Rockies.???
Don't feel badly about it, though, it's the result of tradition.

Rob Skinner
Antique Stationary Engines
La Habra, California

rob at rustyiron.com
www.rustyiron.com





On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> Wanna join a movement?? I read this really interesting article about
> a microbrewery
> in Youngstown, Ohio located within spitting distance of the Tod? 
> Engine.
> http://www.todengine.org/
>
> It's the Rust Belt Brewing Company.? http://www.rustybrew.com/ 
> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031442-389.stm
>
> The first thought that came to mind was that the Tod Engine would
> make for an
> awesome label for one of their brews (a steam beer perhaps?).
>
> The second thought that came to mind was that Rusty Brew could
> become the signature
> beer for the stationary engine fans!
>
> So, check 'em out, drop 'em a line at rustybrew at gmail.com, or join
> 'em on FaceBook.
> I'd really like to see that Tod Engine beer!!
>
> See ya,? Arnie
>
> PS - If you're in the neighborhood of the Tod Engine, check out the
> establishment
> that's been voted No. 2 best beer retailer in the world.
> http://www.vintage-estate.com
>
> Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031444-389.stm
>

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From rob at rustyiron.com  Sat Jan 30 09:54:03 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:54:03 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <003c01caa1d2$889ff970$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <67865e072fac5ad31378c0ba1f1e3751.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<3178CA1C-65F6-4D64-8BEF-57C621359688@rustyiron.com>
	<003c01caa1d2$889ff970$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <1759490B-67C8-44A5-96C1-ACB06EC0AE24@rustyiron.com>


On Jan 30, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Mike Royster wrote:

>  all that "best of" is making me reel.....


So do you think Rustybrew is paying Arnie in pierogies and beer, or do  
you think that held out and struck a deal for beer and pierogies?







From rob at rustyiron.com  Sat Jan 30 10:33:01 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:33:01 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <14E25ACC58C745919BE5D9C83F267230@tommydk7hxjr4h>
References: <14E25ACC58C745919BE5D9C83F267230@tommydk7hxjr4h>
Message-ID: <D4DC8DA7-B8A0-40F3-B03E-08403F96197A@rustyiron.com>

On Jan 30, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:

> Rob,
> 	The weak stuff may be best made in CA.  The REAL stuff is made
> here in KY.  I can smell the mash out my back door!
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY


Hi, Tommy.

Perhaps what you say is true, but I still think mine is better.  Let's  
settle this disagreement is like gentlemen.  I'll ante up an engine,  
and you ante up an engine, just to make the contest interesting.  I'll  
quaff a pint of my local liquid refreshment, and then you'll quaff a  
pint of yours.  The better refreshment will be determined when the  
opposition decides that he's had enough of his own, and concedes.

After our recent visit to your neighborhood and sampling the local  
concoctions, I've been doing some taste testing.  Most recently, I did  
a side-by-side with Maker's Mark and Glenlivet.  Apples and oranges,  
but I wanted to compare the qualities of each.  The complexity of the  
bourbon was much more exciting than the scotch, which I found almost  
monodimensional.  I'm left wondering if that would be the case with  
all bourbons and all scotches.

Next on the agenda is a side-by-side of Maker's Mark and Woodford  
Reserve, the preferred libation of that engineman from Versailles.

Rob





From rotigel at me.com  Sat Jan 30 10:47:23 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:47:23 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <14E25ACC58C745919BE5D9C83F267230@tommydk7hxjr4h>
References: <14E25ACC58C745919BE5D9C83F267230@tommydk7hxjr4h>
Message-ID: <53AA8D07-3D93-4056-BFDE-0358782C8DFD@me.com>

Further, when you are a JUDGE, a POWERFUL man, AND a close friend of  
both POTUS and TOTUS, no one comes looking for the source of the smell!
	Dave

On Jan 30, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:

> Rob,
> 	The weak stuff may be best made in CA.  The REAL stuff is made
> here in KY.  I can smell the mash out my back door!
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
>
>
>
>
> Honestly, though, I
> seriously doubt that anyone can brew good beer east of the Rockies.
> Don't feel badly about it, though, it's the result of tradition.
>
> Rob Skinner
> Antique Stationary Engines
> La Habra, California
>
> rob at rustyiron.com
> www.rustyiron.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Wanna join a movement?  I read this really interesting article about
>> a microbrewery
>> in Youngstown, Ohio located within spitting distance of the Tod
>> Engine.
>> http://www.todengine.org/
>>
>> It's the Rust Belt Brewing Company.  http://www.rustybrew.com/
>> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031442-389.stm
>>
>> The first thought that came to mind was that the Tod Engine would
>> make for an
>> awesome label for one of their brews (a steam beer perhaps?).
>>
>> The second thought that came to mind was that Rusty Brew could
>> become the signature
>> beer for the stationary engine fans!
>>
>> So, check 'em out, drop 'em a line at rustybrew at gmail.com, or join
>> 'em on FaceBook.
>> I'd really like to see that Tod Engine beer!!
>>
>> See ya,  Arnie
>>
>> PS - If you're in the neighborhood of the Tod Engine, check out the
>> establishment
>> that's been voted No. 2 best beer retailer in the world.
>> http://www.vintage-estate.com
>>
>> Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031444-389.stm
>>
>
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From falcon at telenet.net  Sat Jan 30 10:49:16 2010
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:49:16 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DS1EA790241E014CE334158BB5A0@phx.gbl>
References: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net><BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl><4B63C946.4070305@xplornet.com><BAY113-DS9843AE6DA91A5884CA847BB5A0@phx.gbl>	<d8000a9b6dfa35633db7993b52356122.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<BAY113-DS1EA790241E014CE334158BB5A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4B647F2C.5070801@telenet.net>

Richard Strobel wrote:
> yea..it's kinda kewl.  If you start at the front the teeth keep
> getting deeper.  I'd like to see how deep it would cut in one pass.
> I might have more pictures to post on Webshots...will take a look.
> 
> later, Rick

It all depends on how hard the ice really is as to how far it cuts per
pass. The plow isn't made to cut completely through the ice sheet but to
score it deep enough that the cut guides the saw used later.The usual
depth of cut is around 8 inches or so.
When the ice is good solid ice it cuts nice.

-- 
Steve W.



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Jan 30 11:15:27 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:15:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <3178CA1C-65F6-4D64-8BEF-57C621359688@rustyiron.com>
References: <67865e072fac5ad31378c0ba1f1e3751.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<3178CA1C-65F6-4D64-8BEF-57C621359688@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <35faf5554bba5ef6c7736e5825c1bcbc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Gallons & Gallons.  8-))

On Sat, January 30, 2010 11:37 am, Rob Skinner wrote:
>
> So, Arnie, how many gallons per week is the current fee for
> experienced shills?




From Germoamer at aol.com  Sat Jan 30 11:19:05 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:19:05 EST
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
Message-ID: <9e4e.24153813.3895e029@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 1/30/2010 2:01:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
falcon at telenet.net writes:

The plow  isn't made to cut completely through the ice sheet but to
score it deep  enough that the cut guides the saw used later.


Steve,
 
Could it also have been to cut a "crack line" that a wedge would have been  
driven into and hit with a big hammer to break chunks off?  Just a  
thought.  
 
11 inches of snow and still falling!  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Jan 30 11:47:14 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:47:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <003c01caa1d2$889ff970$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <67865e072fac5ad31378c0ba1f1e3751.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<3178CA1C-65F6-4D64-8BEF-57C621359688@rustyiron.com>
	<003c01caa1d2$889ff970$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <82bf28e88f88a25cfde7d4461e53ace6.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

This from a guy who loves Miller Swill, er, Chill.
Need I say more?

On Sat, January 30, 2010 12:34 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> I think I'm gonna heave.....  all that "best of" is making me reel.....





From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Jan 30 11:53:59 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:53:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <D4DC8DA7-B8A0-40F3-B03E-08403F96197A@rustyiron.com>
References: <14E25ACC58C745919BE5D9C83F267230@tommydk7hxjr4h>
	<D4DC8DA7-B8A0-40F3-B03E-08403F96197A@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <dd27cf083221a548ec6b270168da25a9.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Rob,

Having enjoyed both, my vote is with the Woodford Reserve.  In fact I think I'll
sample some this evening and raise a toast to Mike's good health.

See ya,  Arnie

On Sat, January 30, 2010 1:33 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:

> Next on the agenda is a side-by-side of Maker's Mark and Woodford
> Reserve, the preferred libation of that engineman from Versailles.




From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sat Jan 30 12:04:40 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 15:04:40 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <D4DC8DA7-B8A0-40F3-B03E-08403F96197A@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <80CB05FEB1C74EDDA2241ABA4B542AB1@tommydk7hxjr4h>

Rob,
        Problem is, I don't drink the stuff.  I'm basing this just on
what I've been "told" by those who sample it by the barrel. Well, at
least some of them look like they've had a barrel of it.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY





Hi, Tommy.

Perhaps what you say is true, but I still think mine is better.  Let's 
settle this disagreement is like gentlemen.  I'll ante up an engine, 
and you ante up an engine, just to make the contest interesting.  I'll 
quaff a pint of my local liquid refreshment, and then you'll quaff a 
pint of yours.  The better refreshment will be determined when the 
opposition decides that he's had enough of his own, and concedes.

Rob



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From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Sat Jan 30 12:55:19 2010
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 15:55:19 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
References: <67865e072fac5ad31378c0ba1f1e3751.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <075f01caa1ee$88677390$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>

I've never met the proprietor of Rust Belt Brewing, but we have emailed once 
and when spring comes I hope to show him the engine.

I certainly would like to see them make a "Tod Engine Beer".That would be so 
cool, although I do not partake of the alcohol based beverages.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; <slick at toltbbs.com>; 
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:24 AM
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew


> Hi Folks,
>
> Wanna join a movement?  I read this really interesting article about a 
> microbrewery
> in Youngstown, Ohio located within spitting distance of the Tod Engine.
> http://www.todengine.org/
>
> It's the Rust Belt Brewing Company.  http://www.rustybrew.com/
> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031442-389.stm
>
> The first thought that came to mind was that the Tod Engine would make for 
> an
> awesome label for one of their brews (a steam beer perhaps?).
>
> The second thought that came to mind was that Rusty Brew could become the 
> signature
> beer for the stationary engine fans!
>
> So, check 'em out, drop 'em a line at rustybrew at gmail.com, or join 'em on 
> FaceBook.
> I'd really like to see that Tod Engine beer!!
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> PS - If you're in the neighborhood of the Tod Engine, check out the 
> establishment
> that's been voted No. 2 best beer retailer in the world.
> http://www.vintage-estate.com
>
> Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031444-389.stm
>
>
>
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Sat Jan 30 14:03:43 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:03:43 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
References: <14E25ACC58C745919BE5D9C83F267230@tommydk7hxjr4h><D4DC8DA7-B8A0-40F3-B03E-08403F96197A@rustyiron.com>
	<dd27cf083221a548ec6b270168da25a9.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <004c01caa1f8$171899d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

As we say all over the world in the universal toast, HTMH!!!!!!!!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew


> Rob,
>
> Having enjoyed both, my vote is with the Woodford Reserve.  In fact I 
> think I'll
> sample some this evening and raise a toast to Mike's good health.
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> On Sat, January 30, 2010 1:33 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:
>
>> Next on the agenda is a side-by-side of Maker's Mark and Woodford
>> Reserve, the preferred libation of that engineman from Versailles.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From mr at carolina.rr.com  Sat Jan 30 14:04:19 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:04:19 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
References: <67865e072fac5ad31378c0ba1f1e3751.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><3178CA1C-65F6-4D64-8BEF-57C621359688@rustyiron.com><003c01caa1d2$889ff970$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
	<82bf28e88f88a25cfde7d4461e53ace6.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <005301caa1f8$2bee0160$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

It was free, it was for me!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew


> This from a guy who loves Miller Swill, er, Chill.
> Need I say more?
> 
> On Sat, January 30, 2010 12:34 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
>> I think I'm gonna heave.....  all that "best of" is making me reel.....
> 
> 
> 
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Jan 30 14:26:35 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:26:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <004c01caa1f8$171899d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <14E25ACC58C745919BE5D9C83F267230@tommydk7hxjr4h><D4DC8DA7-B8A0-40F3-B03E-08403F96197A@rustyiron.com>
	<dd27cf083221a548ec6b270168da25a9.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<004c01caa1f8$171899d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <8102588195e1e7c918edc56e7bc89974.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Here's To Missy Holland ????

On Sat, January 30, 2010 5:03 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> As we say all over the world in the universal toast, HTMH!!!!!!!!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
>>
>> Having enjoyed both, my vote is with the Woodford Reserve.  In fact I
>> think I'll sample some this evening and raise a toast to Mike's good health.
>>
>> On Sat, January 30, 2010 1:33 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:
>>> Next on the agenda is a side-by-side of Maker's Mark and Woodford
>>> Reserve, the preferred libation of that engineman from Versailles.




From rotigel at me.com  Sat Jan 30 14:21:45 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:21:45 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <005301caa1f8$2bee0160$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <67865e072fac5ad31378c0ba1f1e3751.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<3178CA1C-65F6-4D64-8BEF-57C621359688@rustyiron.com>
	<003c01caa1d2$889ff970$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
	<82bf28e88f88a25cfde7d4461e53ace6.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<005301caa1f8$2bee0160$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <7B320123-5BEB-4C1B-9A57-CBFA939FDC34@me.com>

There is ONLY one reason for drinking beer--and NO MATTER WHAT anyone  
tells you, it's NOT for the taste!
	Dave

On Jan 30, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Mike Royster wrote:

> It was free, it was for me!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
>
>
>> This from a guy who loves Miller Swill, er, Chill.
>> Need I say more?
>>
>> On Sat, January 30, 2010 12:34 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
>>> I think I'm gonna heave.....  all that "best of" is making me  
>>> reel.....
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel



From rob at rustyiron.com  Sat Jan 30 14:29:39 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:29:39 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <80CB05FEB1C74EDDA2241ABA4B542AB1@tommydk7hxjr4h>
References: <80CB05FEB1C74EDDA2241ABA4B542AB1@tommydk7hxjr4h>
Message-ID: <E18C0F6B-25D4-4294-BED7-A0D4535A3F20@rustyiron.com>


On Jan 30, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:
>
>        Problem is, I don't drink the stuff.


SHUCKS!  I thought I had a sure fire plan to "pull a Royster" on you  
and help you divest yourself of that ol' H&R engine of yours.








From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sat Jan 30 14:51:59 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:51:59 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <E18C0F6B-25D4-4294-BED7-A0D4535A3F20@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <B4CA9181B8174C0487E9B5F6D6D83790@tommydk7hxjr4h>

Rob,
	I've learned a lot from the Roysters!  Dad used to tell me that
I'd learn my best lessons from something that burned me because you
don't forget pain.  Let me tell you, I've learned from them Royster
Boys....I'm still applying ointment!

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY

PS:  The H&R is in NC at the Roysters.....





On Jan 30, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:
>
>        Problem is, I don't drink the stuff.


SHUCKS!  I thought I had a sure fire plan to "pull a Royster" on you  
and help you divest yourself of that ol' H&R engine of yours.




From rob at rustyiron.com  Sat Jan 30 15:30:08 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 15:30:08 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <B4CA9181B8174C0487E9B5F6D6D83790@tommydk7hxjr4h>
References: <B4CA9181B8174C0487E9B5F6D6D83790@tommydk7hxjr4h>
Message-ID: <89DD289B-FA89-45EA-B080-EA4C3FD54136@rustyiron.com>

Seriously? That old pile of rust is now at the Roysters?  Suckers!
Rob




From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sat Jan 30 15:58:16 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:58:16 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <89DD289B-FA89-45EA-B080-EA4C3FD54136@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <89FBA933B46C479BA2C7584120C57A94@tommydk7hxjr4h>

No, just pulling your leg.  But, it they may get it on their next KY
trek!

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob
Skinner
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:30 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew


Seriously? That old pile of rust is now at the Roysters?  Suckers! Rob


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From falcon at telenet.net  Sat Jan 30 16:47:10 2010
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:47:10 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <9e4e.24153813.3895e029@aol.com>
References: <9e4e.24153813.3895e029@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4B64D30E.7040602@telenet.net>

Germoamer at aol.com wrote:
>  
> In a message dated 1/30/2010 2:01:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
> falcon at telenet.net writes:
> 
> The plow  isn't made to cut completely through the ice sheet but to
> score it deep  enough that the cut guides the saw used later.
> 
> 
> Steve,
>  
> Could it also have been to cut a "crack line" that a wedge would have been  
> driven into and hit with a big hammer to break chunks off?  Just a  
> thought.  
>  
> 11 inches of snow and still falling!  
> 
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord,  Va.
> germoamer at AOL.com

Tom,
 Not really. The ice has to be cut so it has square corners and straight
edges. Without them it is very hard to stack in the ice house. The plow
would cut down deep enough that the finish cutting was faster and straight.
Most ice houses were built to fit a certain number of blocks per layer
and each layer was stacked in a different direction to keep them stable.
Using a wedge would be faster, but there is no way to keep the cuts square.

-- 
Steve W.



From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Sat Jan 30 16:55:07 2010
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:55:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <dd27cf083221a548ec6b270168da25a9.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <14E25ACC58C745919BE5D9C83F267230@tommydk7hxjr4h>,
	<D4DC8DA7-B8A0-40F3-B03E-08403F96197A@rustyiron.com>,
	<dd27cf083221a548ec6b270168da25a9.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <COL112-W23C2D7C0FAA0F1F70AF56295590@phx.gbl>


Rob, Rob, Rob, Yer drinking dregs man. The best of Kentucky is  Bookers, Bakers,& Basil Hayden!  For Scotch...... Nothing better than Lagavulin and Macallan Cask Strength.  As for what The Larue County Judge drinks, That last Royster visit had My brother spiking the Judges Diet Pepsi with some clear mountain juice called "First Run".  If ya know the secret, He's easy to trade with!  Steve, the good Royster

 


 
> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:53:59 -0500
> From: fero_ah at city-net.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
> 
> Rob,
> 
> Having enjoyed both, my vote is with the Woodford Reserve. In fact I think I'll
> sample some this evening and raise a toast to Mike's good health.
> 
> See ya, Arnie
> 
> On Sat, January 30, 2010 1:33 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:
> 
> > Next on the agenda is a side-by-side of Maker's Mark and Woodford
> > Reserve, the preferred libation of that engineman from Versailles.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  
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From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sat Jan 30 17:39:39 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:39:39 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <COL112-W23C2D7C0FAA0F1F70AF56295590@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <3C44CFF5D35E4760A47DF2CE894B0F97@D2JYVHJ1>

AHA!  Now I know why I have a headache for a couple of days after a
visit from the NC version of the James gang!  And to think once when I
mentioned to Mike that I had a headache after he left he commented "must
have been from counting all that money I gave you".  Funny thing is, he
left a lot less than I paid for the old iron.

As for the Bookers brew, that's named for Booker Noe.  I knew Booker
well before his passing about 5 years ago (I wouldn't put it past him to
have slipped me a little something as well).  He was Jim Beam's Master
Brewer (and the original Jim Beam's grandson) and the one who held all
the mix and ingredients secrets.

This old country boy is learning the ropes!

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY




Rob, Rob, Rob, Yer drinking dregs man. The best of Kentucky is  Bookers,
Bakers,& Basil Hayden!  For Scotch...... Nothing better than Lagavulin
and Macallan Cask Strength.  As for what The Larue County Judge drinks,
That last Royster visit had My brother spiking the Judges Diet Pepsi
with some clear mountain juice called "First Run".  If ya know the
secret, He's easy to trade with!  Steve, the good Royster

 




From rob at rustyiron.com  Sat Jan 30 21:33:02 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:33:02 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <3C44CFF5D35E4760A47DF2CE894B0F97@D2JYVHJ1>
References: <3C44CFF5D35E4760A47DF2CE894B0F97@D2JYVHJ1>
Message-ID: <B2F10449-889C-4D46-9674-79F93FD6E4F8@rustyiron.com>

On Jan 30, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:

> AHA!  Now I know why I have a headache for a couple of days after a
> visit from the NC version of the James gang!

Tommy,
Them boys are from North Carolina.  Consider yourself lucky if it's only
your head that hurts after waking up from a dose of the Royster Roofies.


  
  


From rob at rustyiron.com  Sat Jan 30 21:34:22 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:34:22 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <COL112-W23C2D7C0FAA0F1F70AF56295590@phx.gbl>
References: <14E25ACC58C745919BE5D9C83F267230@tommydk7hxjr4h>,
	<D4DC8DA7-B8A0-40F3-B03E-08403F96197A@rustyiron.com>,
	<dd27cf083221a548ec6b270168da25a9.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<COL112-W23C2D7C0FAA0F1F70AF56295590@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <A4A04DAF-5470-4202-B52D-11CD7A8FDBF5@rustyiron.com>

With the endorsement of both you and the judge, Steve, I'm gonna give  
the Bookers a try.

	
Rob Skinner
Antique Stationary Engines
La Habra, California

rob at rustyiron.com
www.rustyiron.com





On Jan 30, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Steve Royster wrote:

>
> Rob, Rob, Rob, Yer drinking dregs man. The best of Kentucky is   
> Bookers, Bakers,& Basil Hayden!  For Scotch...... Nothing better  
> than Lagavulin and Macallan Cask Strength.  As for what The Larue  
> County Judge drinks, That last Royster visit had My brother spiking  
> the Judges Diet Pepsi with some clear mountain juice called "First  
> Run".  If ya know the secret, He's easy to trade with!  Steve, the  
> good Royster
>


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Jan 30 22:32:02 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 01:32:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <B2F10449-889C-4D46-9674-79F93FD6E4F8@rustyiron.com>
References: <3C44CFF5D35E4760A47DF2CE894B0F97@D2JYVHJ1>
	<B2F10449-889C-4D46-9674-79F93FD6E4F8@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <11caf018687ec04b4b2ce02dfdd5227c.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

ROFLMAO!!!  "Royster Roofies..."

On Sun, January 31, 2010 12:33 am, Rob Skinner wrote:

> Them boys are from North Carolina.  Consider yourself lucky if it's only
> your head that hurts after waking up from a dose of the Royster Roofies.





From gastzt at aol.com  Sun Jan 31 05:15:50 2010
From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 08:15:50 EST
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
Message-ID: <1e57.9c9343.3896dc86@aol.com>

GEEEeeeez!  MUST be good !  ha
 Stan Z
                   oldstovers


From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Sun Jan 31 06:43:08 2010
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:43:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
References: <831209.78319.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <080301caa283$b4586d70$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>

Arnie,

Your email worked.  Rust Belt Brewing is interested in making a Tod Engine 
Beer, and we are going to discuss it in the spring.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Grimley" <bgrimley at bellsouth.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew


> Rob;
> Have you seen this website? Check out numbers 1 thru 4 - - - think those 
> are east of MS.
> Bill
>
> http://ratebeer.com/Ratebeerbest/table_2010.asp?title=Best+Beers+of+the+United+States+2010&file=usa_beer_2010.csv
>
> --- On Sat, 1/30/10, Rob Skinner <rob at rustyiron.com> wrote:
>
> From: Rob Skinner <rob at rustyiron.com>
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
> To: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> Cc: "SEL ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>, "Oldengine.org" 
> <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 11:37 AM
>
> It appears that you might have discovered a new party spot for Tod
> enthusiasts when they visit the engine. And it looks like Rick has
> already set up some kind of mutually beneficial agreement between
> himself and the brewery?check the web page. Honestly, though, I
> seriously doubt that anyone can brew good beer east of the Rockies.
> Don't feel badly about it, though, it's the result of tradition.
>
> As you know, the best engines in the world were built here in
> California. In order to lure the best engineers, the best foundrymen,
> and the best machinists, engine manufacturers were forced to establish
> a brewing infrastructure based upon the world's finest hops, the most
> skilled brewmasters, and the most sophisticated breweries, which all
> produced the worlds best beer. Now it's a tradition that has been
> passed down from generation to generation of western brewers.
>
> So, Arnie, how many gallons per week is the current fee for
> experienced shills?
>
>
> Rob Skinner
> Antique Stationary Engines
> La Habra, California
>
> rob at rustyiron.com
> www.rustyiron.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Wanna join a movement? I read this really interesting article about
>> a microbrewery
>> in Youngstown, Ohio located within spitting distance of the Tod
>> Engine.
>> http://www.todengine.org/
>>
>> It's the Rust Belt Brewing Company. http://www.rustybrew.com/
>> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031442-389.stm
>>
>> The first thought that came to mind was that the Tod Engine would
>> make for an
>> awesome label for one of their brews (a steam beer perhaps?).
>>
>> The second thought that came to mind was that Rusty Brew could
>> become the signature
>> beer for the stationary engine fans!
>>
>> So, check 'em out, drop 'em a line at rustybrew at gmail.com, or join
>> 'em on FaceBook.
>> I'd really like to see that Tod Engine beer!!
>>
>> See ya, Arnie
>>
>> PS - If you're in the neighborhood of the Tod Engine, check out the
>> establishment
>> that's been voted No. 2 best beer retailer in the world.
>> http://www.vintage-estate.com
>>
>> Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031444-389.stm
>>
>
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> 



From rotigel at me.com  Sun Jan 31 07:19:28 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:19:28 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <080301caa283$b4586d70$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>
References: <831209.78319.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<080301caa283$b4586d70$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>
Message-ID: <2C41429B-C947-47D2-B0FE-366BDFF5E8DA@me.com>

Sumbich, that means we will have it in time for Portland Beer tasting  
AND the ATIS Auction!
	Dave
PS, Could you get them to add that "This is the OFFICIAL BEER of the  
ATIS Stationary Engine List?"

On Jan 31, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Rick Rowlands wrote:

> Arnie,
>
> Your email worked.  Rust Belt Brewing is interested in making a Tod  
> Engine
> Beer, and we are going to discuss it in the spring.
>
> Rick


From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com  Sun Jan 31 07:33:02 2010
From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:33:02 EST
Subject: [SEL] Fuel pump help needed
Message-ID: <4a6c.4457b9b0.3896fcae@aol.com>

I have a fuel pump that looks a lot like a IHC pump but not as big. The  
numbers on the pump are  K 229. 
Can anyone help out and identify this fuel pump? 
Thank You
KK


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sun Jan 31 07:50:27 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:50:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <080301caa283$b4586d70$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>
References: <831209.78319.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<080301caa283$b4586d70$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>
Message-ID: <0b52237705a1f976827426021ca047a0.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Rick, that's AWESOME news!!  Please keep us informed on the progress.
Who knows, maybe you can talk them into donating a piece of the profits to the Tod
Engine?  Oh, and I'm sure that it goes without saying...

If they need any taste-testers, you know how to reach us!  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

On Sun, January 31, 2010 9:43 am, Rick Rowlands wrote:

> Your email worked.  Rust Belt Brewing is interested in making a Tod Engine
> Beer, and we are going to discuss it in the spring.





From gastzt at aol.com  Sun Jan 31 08:15:35 2010
From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 11:15:35 EST
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
Message-ID: <541b.2e1c3c47.389706a7@aol.com>

hey you guys--I SPECIALIZE-  in test-tasting---ha!   (especially SHINER 
BOCK)--
 Stan
   old stovers
Pleasanton, Tex


From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sun Jan 31 09:30:04 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turrner)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:30:04 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Fuel pump help needed
In-Reply-To: <4a6c.4457b9b0.3896fcae@aol.com>
Message-ID: <B45B4C2485AC4D3CA61F55512D90CFF4@ckcsdb40cdd57a>

Kevin,
	Send me a photo of it on my personal email address.  I may be
able to ID it.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of
BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 10:33 AM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Fuel pump help needed

I have a fuel pump that looks a lot like a IHC pump but not as big. The

numbers on the pump are  K 229. 
Can anyone help out and identify this fuel pump? 
Thank You
KK
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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 31 16:25:47 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:25:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net>
Message-ID: <799570.96998.qm@web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I sure wish that was close enough that I could be there.
I have two ice saws.
One looks like a hand made one that should work good.
The other one appears to be an ice blade for a log saw.
?
Log saw I have.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Fri, 1/29/10, Steve W. <falcon at telenet.net> wrote:


From: Steve W. <falcon at telenet.net>
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
To: "ATIS LIST" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>, "Engine list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 1:13 PM


For anyone interested in how they used to keep things cold prior to the
refrigerator.

http://millersmillsny.com/

If it stays cold for the next couple of weeks they should get some good
ice this year.

Oh, if you plan on coming wear good boots. It gets wet on the ice at
times. A set of ice cleats isn't a bad idea either...

-- 
Steve W.

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From jd.kirkes at verizon.net  Sun Jan 31 16:26:39 2010
From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:26:39 -0800
Subject: [SEL] babbet
Message-ID: <9A3A1E9FADB441368BAA872D3D2FC370@Desktop>

Good babbet article
http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/babbet/babbet.html

Jim

Jim and Diane Kirkes
jd.kirkes at verizon.net


From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  1 12:02:29 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 12:02:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Webster Bracket Help Please
Message-ID: <32765.69841.qm@web37303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Greetings Folks and welcome to 2010.
?
Back in 2004 I spent a Saturday at the Portland engine show.
While there I picked up a Nelson Brothers built MacLeod with a Webster mag.
This is the Nelson Brothers 45 degree angled bracket.
?
It has always been a bad starter so I have not done anything with it until now.
For the Buckley show this year I need a couple more good running engines.
I pulled the Webster bracket off and the movable shaft has a bit of slop in it.
?
With the medical issues I have been through lately and the time missed at work I don't have much in the way of engine cash right now.
I can't afford what a shop here wants to charge for this.
I would like to send this to someone who would be willing and able to drill and bush the hole to take the slop out of it. I would be happy to pay a reasonable fee.
?
Alan in Michigan

From edurand at mchsi.com  Fri Jan  1 14:47:19 2010
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 16:47:19 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Webster Bracket Help Please
In-Reply-To: <32765.69841.qm@web37303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBKEKLIJAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Alan:

Do you have a photo of the bracket so I have some idea of whether I can do the job with my lathe and mill?

If I can, I'd do it for the cost of materials.

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Alan
> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 02:02 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Cc: Old Engine.Org List
> Subject: [SEL] Webster Bracket Help Please
> 
> 
> Greetings Folks and welcome to 2010.
> ?
> Back in 2004 I spent a Saturday at the Portland 
> engine show.
> While there I picked up a Nelson Brothers built 
> MacLeod with a Webster mag.
> This is the Nelson Brothers 45 degree angled bracket.
> ?
> It has always been a bad starter so I have not 
> done anything with it until now.
> For the Buckley show this year I need a couple 
> more good running engines.
> I pulled the Webster bracket off and the movable 
> shaft has a bit of slop in it.
> ?
> With the medical issues I have been through 
> lately and the time missed at work I don't have 
> much in the way of engine cash right now.
> I can't afford what a shop here wants to charge for this.
> I would like to send this to someone who would be 
> willing and able to drill and bush the hole to 
> take the slop out of it. I would be happy to pay 
> a reasonable fee.
> ?
> Alan in Michigan




From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Fri Jan  1 16:20:53 2010
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 19:20:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
Message-ID: <23201407.1262391653927.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I don't know where you all get your batteries but my NiCad's will eat them up all day long.  They will outlast them on run time, not die in a flash and will last longer overall.  I make my living by the life and death of cordless tools and will go side by side with any of the those POS Lithium's you can come up with.  If your a DIYer then they are probably great but on the job they are nothing but CRAP!  I agree that the NiCads will remember but if you would read the instructions that come with tools then you would know this and you can prevent this thus making the charge last longer.

Tim Christoff.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Pavlinovich <pjp08 at steamengine.com.au>
>Sent: Jan 1, 2010 1:15 AM
>To: 'The SEL email discussion list' <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
>
>Oh absolutely - Lithium over NiCd anytime! They last ages and charge quickly
>and most importantly do not have memory. If you repeatedly charge NiCd when
>they are not depleted they will start to "remember" this and fail much
>earlier than they should have. The Lithium will generally be a higher
>amp-hour battery for the same size (this means they work longer between
>charges).
>
>Regards
>Paul
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Alan
>Sent: Friday, 1 January 2010 12:15 PM
>To: The SEL email discussion list
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
>
>I will use them over ni-cads anytime.
>My lithiums recharge so fast it is crazy how long they will last.
>My 18 Volt drill has an auto shift that will kick it into low gear if it is
>needed.
>The only time I felt it kick in was when I was drilling through metal and
>when it penetrated the other side and bit off more than the bit could chew
>that drill jumped into low gear and kept going.
>?
>Alan in Michigan
>
>
>
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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  1 16:32:10 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 16:32:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Webster Bracket Help Please
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBKEKLIJAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <561301.21982.qm@web37303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thank you for the offer, Elden.
Another member emailed me directly one hour and thirty four minutes ahead of you.
This list is great !!!!!!
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Fri, 1/1/10, Elden DuRand <edurand at mchsi.com> wrote:


From: Elden DuRand <edurand at mchsi.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Webster Bracket Help Please
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 5:47 PM


Alan:

Do you have a photo of the bracket so I have some idea of whether I can do the job with my lathe and mill?

If I can, I'd do it for the cost of materials.

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>? Behalf Of Alan
> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 02:02 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Cc: Old Engine.Org List
> Subject: [SEL] Webster Bracket Help Please
> 
> 
> Greetings Folks and welcome to 2010.
> ?
> Back in 2004 I spent a Saturday at the Portland 
> engine show.
> While there I picked up a Nelson Brothers built 
> MacLeod with a Webster mag.
> This is the Nelson Brothers 45 degree angled bracket.
> ?
> It has always been a bad starter so I have not 
> done anything with it until now.
> For the Buckley show this year I need a couple 
> more good running engines.
> I pulled the Webster bracket off and the movable 
> shaft has a bit of slop in it.
> ?
> With the medical issues I have been through 
> lately and the time missed at work I don't have 
> much in the way of engine cash right now.
> I can't afford what a shop here wants to charge for this.
> I would like to send this to someone who would be 
> willing and able to drill and bush the hole to 
> take the slop out of it. I would be happy to pay 
> a reasonable fee.
> ?
> Alan in Michigan


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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  1 16:48:46 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 16:48:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
In-Reply-To: <23201407.1262391653927.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <314126.89301.qm@web37306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Make all the claims you want to.
I have been in the trades since 1975.
I am not into full time building right now but?I have spent 2 1/2 days driving 2 1/2" and 3" screws before the battery died.
I grabbed the one from that little MP3 playing radio and put the dead one on the charger.
Twenty minutes later it was charged and I had my music back.
?
I have seen way too many NICads puke out.
That is why I bought this great kit with real batteries.
?
Yup, I could make an adapter and plug in a cord to run my dead NiCad tools but why???
I already have a bunch of plug in drills and circular saws.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Fri, 1/1/10, Tim Christoff <tchristoff at earthlink.net> wrote:


From: Tim Christoff <tchristoff at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 7:20 PM


I don't know where you all get your batteries but my NiCad's will eat them up all day long.? They will outlast them on run time, not die in a flash and will last longer overall.? I make my living by the life and death of cordless tools and will go side by side with any of the those POS Lithium's you can come up with.? If your a DIYer then they are probably great but on the job they are nothing but CRAP!? I agree that the NiCads will remember but if you would read the instructions that come with tools then you would know this and you can prevent this thus making the charge last longer.

Tim Christoff.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Pavlinovich <pjp08 at steamengine.com.au>
>Sent: Jan 1, 2010 1:15 AM
>To: 'The SEL email discussion list' <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
>
>Oh absolutely - Lithium over NiCd anytime! They last ages and charge quickly
>and most importantly do not have memory. If you repeatedly charge NiCd when
>they are not depleted they will start to "remember" this and fail much
>earlier than they should have. The Lithium will generally be a higher
>amp-hour battery for the same size (this means they work longer between
>charges).
>
>Regards
>Paul
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Alan
>Sent: Friday, 1 January 2010 12:15 PM
>To: The SEL email discussion list
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
>
>I will use them over ni-cads anytime.
>My lithiums recharge so fast it is crazy how long they will last.
>My 18 Volt drill has an auto shift that will kick it into low gear if it is
>needed.
>The only time I felt it kick in was when I was drilling through metal and
>when it penetrated the other side and bit off more than the bit could chew
>that drill jumped into low gear and kept going.
>?
>Alan in Michigan
>
>
>
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From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Fri Jan  1 21:03:14 2010
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 00:03:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
Message-ID: <8799372.1262408594105.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>



-----Original Message-----
>From: Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Jan 1, 2010 7:48 PM
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
>
>Make all the claims you want to.
>I have been in the trades since 1975.

They didn't have cordless tools in 75 (at least not what were talking about) so you can't use that as a basis for the batteries

>I am not into full time building right now but?I have spent 2 1/2 days driving 2 1/2" and 3" screws before the battery died.

Not saying your wrong because I do know how fast they charge but when you start putting in an average of 15,000 screws a week you will be tossing those light weight batteries away.  In all the years that we have been using the cordless drills we (Myself and crew and they supply their own) have found that the best drill for screwing on metal is either the 14.4 volt or 18 volt NiCad Dewalts.  I actually find the 14.4 XRP to be the best one even though I have more than a few of each.  The biggest thing you find out when putting in that many screws is the Lith batteries don't weigh enough to offset the recoil of the tool when the screw hits home causing your wrist to twist farther than with the heavier NiCad's with can assorb more of it.  The only way to avoid this with the Lith batteries is to use the new impact drivers but they also have the draw back of not running fast enough.  You can put in 2 screws to 1 with the regular drills.

Your quick charging time is offset by the quick run down time and it is more than 2 to 1 so your charging 2 plus batteries to my 1.

Still don't believe me, join me for a day on a barn roof and you will see.  Until you use the tool like I do don't tell me I can make all the claims I want to, there not claims, there the truth.  

Tim



Tim Christoff



From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  2 06:14:00 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 06:14:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
In-Reply-To: <8799372.1262408594105.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <612484.33641.qm@web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

You are cute, Tim.
I am not going to continue this.
Please don't fall off a barn roof.
I don't spend much time on roofs any longer.
You like what you have and I will like what I have.
These 18 Volt Lithiums last longer and charge quicker than the 14 Volt NiCads that I just retired to the scrap heap.
Play safe.
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sat, 1/2/10, Tim Christoff <tchristoff at earthlink.net> wrote:


From: Tim Christoff <tchristoff at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 12:03 AM




-----Original Message-----
>From: Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Jan 1, 2010 7:48 PM
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
>
>Make all the claims you want to.
>I have been in the trades since 1975.

They didn't have cordless tools in 75 (at least not what were talking about) so you can't use that as a basis for the batteries

>I am not into full time building right now but?I have spent 2 1/2 days driving 2 1/2" and 3" screws before the battery died.

Not saying your wrong because I do know how fast they charge but when you start putting in an average of 15,000 screws a week you will be tossing those light weight batteries away.? In all the years that we have been using the cordless drills we (Myself and crew and they supply their own) have found that the best drill for screwing on metal is either the 14.4 volt or 18 volt NiCad Dewalts.? I actually find the 14.4 XRP to be the best one even though I have more than a few of each.? The biggest thing you find out when putting in that many screws is the Lith batteries don't weigh enough to offset the recoil of the tool when the screw hits home causing your wrist to twist farther than with the heavier NiCad's with can assorb more of it.? The only way to avoid this with the Lith batteries is to use the new impact drivers but they also have the draw back of not running fast enough.? You can put in 2 screws to 1 with the regular drills.

Your quick charging time is offset by the quick run down time and it is more than 2 to 1 so your charging 2 plus batteries to my 1.

Still don't believe me, join me for a day on a barn roof and you will see.? Until you use the tool like I do don't tell me I can make all the claims I want to, there not claims, there the truth.? 

Tim



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From edurand at mchsi.com  Sat Jan  2 08:07:32 2010
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 10:07:32 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Webster Bracket Help Please
In-Reply-To: <561301.21982.qm@web37303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBGEKOIJAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Alan:

Great!  Go for it!

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Alan
> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 06:32 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Webster Bracket Help Please
> 
> 
> Thank you for the offer, Elden.
> Another member emailed me directly one hour and 
> thirty four minutes ahead of you.
> This list is great !!!!!!




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Jan  2 12:51:34 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:51:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Craig Mathews and the WFITBHFPFTMCOTKU
Message-ID: <13c76f3818b7950a29baee7292615903.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Chuck,

I think the full name is the "World Famous Internationally Traveled Blue-Handled
Fence Pliers From The Magnetic Center Of The Known Universe."  8-))

AKA...

The WFITBHFPFTMCOTKU.

Maybe they could make their way to Portland 2010?  That Charity Auction still seems
to be alive and well.  I'm just happy that they've surfaced again.  I was afraid
that they'd been lost.

See ya,  Arnie

PS - Perhaps for a suitable charitable donation, Jerry Evans could get the
WFITBHFPFTMCOTKU some exposure on the Dark Continent and thus further increase their
value prior to Portland 2010?

PPS - Does anyone recall just which countries the WFITBHFPFTMCOTKU have visited?  I
know that they've been to Holland and Oz (maybe more than once?).  Canada?  New
Zealand?  England?  Scotland?  Japan?  Craig, I think there's a logbook with the
WFITBHFPFTMCOTKU?

On Sat, January 2, 2010 3:28 pm, Labpoop at aol.com wrote:
> I forget, what does the WFIT stand for?
>
> Chuck
>
>
> In a message dated 1/2/2010 7:22:37 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> shop at cccomm.net writes:
>
> You must be referring to the infamous blue  handled fence pliers! If my old
> brain remembers correctly they were first  initiated into the auction by
> Farmer. Lot of the newer folks on this list  don't know they've been to Europe
> and Australia. It would be fun to get that  going again.
> Dave E
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:  _Craig Mathews_ (mailto:rustaholic at sbcglobal.net)
> To: _stationary-engine at oldengine.org_
> (mailto:stationary-engine at oldengine.org)
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 1:55  PM
> Subject: Re: New Years crankup ??
>
>
> I will drag my International 1-1/2 to 2-1/2 LB pumpjack outfit  out and
> fire it at midnight PST. Yeah, whatever happened to the  auction. I still have
> the WFITBHFP's! More traveled now......
>
> Craig M.
> Northridge, CA 91325
>
> --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Jerry Evans  <_jerrye at databak.co.za_
> (mailto:jerrye at databak.co.za) >  wrote:
>
> From:  Jerry Evans <_jerrye at databak.co.za_ (mailto:jerrye at databak.co.za) >
> Subject:  New Years crankup ??
> To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org,  sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Date: Thursday, December 31,  2009, 10:24 AM
>
> Hi all,
> There's  been no talk of a New Year crankup this year - anyone having  one?
>
> I will not be as I will be  fast asleep at midnight. I worked until 5:00 am
> this morning and I'm  "Bushed" (or should that now be "Obama'd).
>
> As an alternative, I'll start my pickup's engine just  now so that I can
> park it in the workshop. I hope that's  acceptable:-)
>
> On the subject of  things falling by the wayside - whatever happened to the
> SEL Charity  Xmas Auction. Has it now died officially? Last year's auction
> seemed  to herald it's demise.
>
> I've only  just made the Brass Plate from last years auction - but that's
> only  because the pics to copy only arrived a few weeks ago but that's not  a
> problem as the winner and I have been in constant touch about  them,
> (before someone again accuses me of taking a year or more to  deliver plates <big
> grin>). There is no "time limit". Then  again I'm still waiting for pics for
> some plates that were won on  the 2007 (or could it have been 2006) auction
> - also no problem the  winner and I are in touch.
>
> O.K.  that's enough rambling - Happy New Year (again) to you  all.
>




From jbcast at charter.net  Sat Jan  2 13:04:20 2010
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 13:04:20 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Craig Mathews and the WFITBHFPFTMCOTKU
In-Reply-To: <13c76f3818b7950a29baee7292615903.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <20100102160420.U4W4Y.1491085.root@mp16>


---- Arnie Fero <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote: 
> Hi Chuck,
> 
> I think the full name is the "World Famous Internationally Traveled Blue-Handled
> Fence Pliers From The Magnetic Center Of The Known Universe."  8-))
> 
> AKA...
> 
> The WFITBHFPFTMCOTKU.
> 
> Maybe they could make their way to Portland 2010?  That Charity Auction still seems
> to be alive and well.  I'm just happy that they've surfaced again.  I was afraid
> that they'd been lost.
> 
> See ya,  Arnie
> 
> PS - Perhaps for a suitable charitable donation, Jerry Evans could get the
> WFITBHFPFTMCOTKU some exposure on the Dark Continent and thus further increase their
> value prior to Portland 2010?
> 
> PPS - Does anyone recall just which countries the WFITBHFPFTMCOTKU have visited?  I
> know that they've been to Holland and Oz (maybe more than once?).  Canada?  New
> Zealand?  England?  Scotland?  Japan?  Craig, I think there's a logbook with the
> WFITBHFPFTMCOTKU?
> 
> On Sat, January 2, 2010 3:28 pm, Labpoop at aol.com wrote:
> > I forget, what does the WFIT stand for?
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/2/2010 7:22:37 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> > shop at cccomm.net writes:
> >
> > You must be referring to the infamous blue  handled fence pliers! If my old
> > brain remembers correctly they were first  initiated into the auction by
> > Farmer. Lot of the newer folks on this list  don't know they've been to Europe
> > and Australia. It would be fun to get that  going again.
> > Dave E
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:  _Craig Mathews_ (mailto:rustaholic at sbcglobal.net)
> > To: _stationary-engine at oldengine.org_
> > (mailto:stationary-engine at oldengine.org)
> > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 1:55  PM
> > Subject: Re: New Years crankup ??
> >
> >
> > I will drag my International 1-1/2 to 2-1/2 LB pumpjack outfit  out and
> > fire it at midnight PST. Yeah, whatever happened to the  auction. I still have
> > the WFITBHFP's! More traveled now......
> >
> > Craig M.
> > Northridge, CA 91325
> >
> > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Jerry Evans  <_jerrye at databak.co.za_
> > (mailto:jerrye at databak.co.za) >  wrote:
> >
> > From:  Jerry Evans <_jerrye at databak.co.za_ (mailto:jerrye at databak.co.za) >
> > Subject:  New Years crankup ??
> > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org,  sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > Date: Thursday, December 31,  2009, 10:24 AM
> >
> > Hi all,
> > There's  been no talk of a New Year crankup this year - anyone having  one?
> >
> > I will not be as I will be  fast asleep at midnight. I worked until 5:00 am
> > this morning and I'm  "Bushed" (or should that now be "Obama'd).
> >
> > As an alternative, I'll start my pickup's engine just  now so that I can
> > park it in the workshop. I hope that's  acceptable:-)
> >
> > On the subject of  things falling by the wayside - whatever happened to the
> > SEL Charity  Xmas Auction. Has it now died officially? Last year's auction
> > seemed  to herald it's demise.
> >
> > I've only  just made the Brass Plate from last years auction - but that's
> > only  because the pics to copy only arrived a few weeks ago but that's not  a
> > problem as the winner and I have been in constant touch about  them,
> > (before someone again accuses me of taking a year or more to  deliver plates <big
> > grin>). There is no "time limit". Then  again I'm still waiting for pics for
> > some plates that were won on  the 2007 (or could it have been 2006) auction
> > - also no problem the  winner and I are in touch.
> >
> > O.K.  that's enough rambling - Happy New Year (again) to you  all.
> >
> 
> 
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From falcon at telenet.net  Sat Jan  2 18:47:52 2010
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:47:52 -0500
Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Engines_on_Craigslist?=
Message-ID: <4B400558.1010105@telenet.net>


Nothing to do with me but someone might be interested

http://utica.craigslist.org/tls/1533837789.html


approx 10 old stationary engines - $25 (rome)
Date: 2010-01-02, 10:53AM EST
Reply to: sale-s4j6e-1533837789 at craigslist.org [Errors when replying to
ads?]

Cleaning out garage have approx 10 to 15 old stationary engines some
running some not will sell 1 or all small engine man dream call
 315 533 7298 Bill



From tchristoff at earthlink.net  Sun Jan  3 07:21:49 2010
From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff)
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 10:21:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Cordless Tools (Semi-OT)
Message-ID: <2315739.1262532110043.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Sorry Alan, I like girls.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Alan <rustaholic777 at yahoo.com>

>You are cute, Tim.

>

Tim Christoff


From George_Best at adp.com  Mon Jan  4 08:59:01 2010
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 10:59:01 -0600
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

I posted a message on the 1st, but it never showed up on SEL, so here it again.

I ran my 4hp (large version) Lorenz for a few minutes on the 1st.  It's the one engine I have where I can walk into the barn and within a few seconds have it running.  Almost always starts on the first pull of the flywheel which is to trip the magneto.

I've got other engines that would also start easy, but they all need batteries and coils hooked up and I don't keep batteries with the engines.  Plus they also would need some fuel as I don't keep gas in their tanks as well.

The old trusty Lorenz is the one I keep gas in just in case I want to run a engine for myself or to show to a visitor.

This is the second oldest Lorenz that I know of in the USA.
I'm sure Arnie could quickly confirm this or not with that Lorenz registry he maintains so well. ;-)

There is a youtube clip I posted 3 years ago of this engine running, just search for "4hp Lorenz".  Can't post the youtube link at the moment, since I'm at work and youtube is one of the many sites they block access to from work.  Wonder why?  ;-)

George


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From langer5 at sympatico.ca  Mon Jan  4 09:51:15 2010
From: langer5 at sympatico.ca (Larry Anger)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:15 -0500
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP330A36446E6A13EA2B776197740@phx.gbl>

George - that Lorenz of yours is sure a sweet running machine.   - -  As far 
as the well maintained Lorenz registry produced and published by that 
infamous European traveler Arnie, well I have searched high and low and have 
determined that he has written all those many pages in invisible ink. I did 
see with my own eyes, hour upon hour of dedicated time, to climbing over, 
around, under, and through all kinds of rusty memorabilia with pen and 
notebook in hand supposedly making known to the engine collectors of the 
world the long awaited information from the Data plates of these great Czech 
engines. But Alas, is the year 2010 going to be another year where we 
wait!!!!! and wait!!!!! and wait!!!! only to be disappointed yet again??????

Larry Anger
163926 Brownsville Rd.
R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario
Canada N4G 4G8
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Best, George" <George_Best at adp.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??


>I posted a message on the 1st, but it never showed up on SEL, so here it 
>again.
>
> I ran my 4hp (large version) Lorenz for a few minutes on the 1st.  It's 
> the one engine I have where I can walk into the barn and within a few 
> seconds have it running.  Almost always starts on the first pull of the 
> flywheel which is to trip the magneto.
>
> I've got other engines that would also start easy, but they all need 
> batteries and coils hooked up and I don't keep batteries with the engines. 
> Plus they also would need some fuel as I don't keep gas in their tanks as 
> well.
>
> The old trusty Lorenz is the one I keep gas in just in case I want to run 
> a engine for myself or to show to a visitor.
>
> This is the second oldest Lorenz that I know of in the USA.
> I'm sure Arnie could quickly confirm this or not with that Lorenz registry 
> he maintains so well. ;-)
>
> There is a youtube clip I posted 3 years ago of this engine running, just 
> search for "4hp Lorenz".  Can't post the youtube link at the moment, since 
> I'm at work and youtube is one of the many sites they block access to from 
> work.  Wonder why?  ;-)
>
> George
>
>
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Jan  4 10:28:40 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 13:28:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
Message-ID: <175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi George,

Aren't those Lorenz engines just the SWEETEST runners?

BTW, if any list members out there have Lorenz or Benz engines that are NOT in the
registry, please send me the details.  I need your name, city, state, and country,
engine HP & S/N, plus a listing of any unsual features and comments on overall
condition.  Pictures are a bonus.

Please get me that info.  You don't want to be left out of the SOON TO BE RELEASED
major 2010 updated release of the Lorenz & Benz Registry!!

See ya,  Arnie

Arnie Fero
Pittsburgh, PA
Keeper of the Lorenz & Benz Engine Registry
fero_ah at city-net.com



On Mon, January 4, 2010 11:59 am, Best, George wrote:
> I posted a message on the 1st, but it never showed up on SEL, so here it again.
>
> I ran my 4hp (large version) Lorenz for a few minutes on the 1st.  It's the one
> engine I have where I can walk into the barn and within a few seconds have it
> running.  Almost always starts on the first pull of the flywheel which is to trip
> the magneto.
>
> I've got other engines that would also start easy, but they all need batteries and
> coils hooked up and I don't keep batteries with the engines.  Plus they also would
> need some fuel as I don't keep gas in their tanks as well.
>
> The old trusty Lorenz is the one I keep gas in just in case I want to run a engine
> for myself or to show to a visitor.
>
> This is the second oldest Lorenz that I know of in the USA.
> I'm sure Arnie could quickly confirm this or not with that Lorenz registry he
> maintains so well. ;-)
>
> There is a youtube clip I posted 3 years ago of this engine running, just search for
> "4hp Lorenz".  Can't post the youtube link at the moment, since I'm at work and
> youtube is one of the many sites they block access to from work.  Wonder why?  ;-)





From George_Best at adp.com  Mon Jan  4 10:43:45 2010
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:43:45 -0600
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
In-Reply-To: <175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6941@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Arnie,

I must admit when I first got my Czech engines I thought the Benz engines were better than the Lorenz.  However, after years of having both I must say my early Lorenz is the favorite of the three Czech engines in my barn.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 10:29 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??

Hi George,

Aren't those Lorenz engines just the SWEETEST runners?

See ya,  Arnie


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From rob at rustyiron.com  Mon Jan  4 11:02:49 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 11:02:49 -0800
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
In-Reply-To: <175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com>

On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>
> Arnie Fero
> Pittsburgh, PA
> Keeper of the Secret Lorenz & Benz Engine Registry

Plan A:  OS X comes with iWeb, a fairly capable web page editor.
Plan B:  Bevmo accepts online orders and can ship Pimms to the UK.
Plan C:  Sell your Lorenz and start a Briggs & Stratton registry.

Rob

P.S.
You seem to be getting slow in your old age.
Youthful Arnie never would have poked his head
up long enough to allow for such a clean shot.




From edstoller at earthlink.net  Mon Jan  4 10:56:29 2010
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 13:56:29 -0500
Subject: [SEL] LEORI Engine
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <916586D23FD14BDAB2A9DB1DB672A475@Ed>

I have been ask to help finding a gear for a small 2 cylinder Leroi  engine 
ser. #  146740. The engine belongs to the Stephenson County Antique Engine 
Club in Vermont, but the engine is in Illinois.  The magneto gear is fine, 
but 4 or 5  teeth on the drive gear are missing. It's about a 4 inch gear. 
The numbers on the gear are: A13-398  and  26-2-4.

The name 'Leori' is strange to me, so I wonder if that is correct. I would 
think it would be "Leroy".  I don't know if the engine is gas or diesel.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/


 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Jan  4 11:30:09 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:30:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Re=3A__New_Years_crankup_=3F=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <90b8de78ba15ff304ef2a4680c1e36b3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Ever play Whac-A-Mole?  8-))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whac-A-Mole

On Mon, January 4, 2010 2:02 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:
> On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>> Keeper of the Secret Lorenz & Benz Engine Registry
>
> You seem to be getting slow in your old age.
> Youthful Arnie never would have poked his head
> up long enough to allow for such a clean shot.





From sluggo54 at hotmail.com  Mon Jan  4 12:06:08 2010
From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:06:08 -0600
Subject: [SEL] George Best
Message-ID: <BAY127-W198812C0B81A038702C4ACCB740@phx.gbl>


George, seeing your post on the 4 hp Lorenz reminded me of something.  Last week, on RFD's Classic Tractors, I saw a tour of the Mehmke Farm Museum.  The man giving the tour showed a 1917 Russell, then mentioned that it is only run when the man he bought it from George Best, stops by to run it.

http://steamtraction.farmcollector.com/Farm-Shows/Mehmke-Museum-In-Montana.aspx

Bruce Younger   

05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68   

Madison, SD  

sluggo54 at hotmail.com   



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armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter."   

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From jlb94 at juno.com  Mon Jan  4 12:04:01 2010
From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 20:04:01 GMT
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <20100104.150401.21058.4@webmail03.vgs.untd.com>

I am sending this out to see if I am still a subscriber to the SEL.
I have NOT received the regular, first of the month reminder, for the SEL but I HAVE received it for the OLD-IRON list.
I have tried to contact the owner-lists but get back e-mails that don't make a lot of sense to me.
So - This is an attempt to contact someone on the list other than responding to the usual threads.

Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
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From Germoamer at aol.com  Mon Jan  4 12:22:44 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 15:22:44 EST
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <ccc.650c65f1.3873a814@aol.com>

Joe,
 
I got my monthly reminder the other day with the below text:
 
This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about  your
lists.stationary-engine.com mailing list memberships.  It  includes
your subscription info and how to use it to change it or  unsubscribe
from a list.

<<You can visit the URLs to change your  membership status or
configuration, including unsubscribing, setting  digest-style delivery
or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a  vacation), and so on.

In addition to the URL interfaces, you can also use  email to make such
changes.  For more info, send a message to the  '-request' address of
the list (for example,  mailman-request at lists.stationary-engine.com)
containing just the word 'help'  in the message body, and an email
message will be sent to you with  instructions.

If you have questions, problems, comments, etc, send them  to
mailman-owner at lists.stationary-engine.com.  Thanks!>>
 
Tom  Schmutz
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From George_Best at adp.com  Mon Jan  4 12:58:08 2010
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:58:08 -0600
Subject: [SEL] George Best
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W198812C0B81A038702C4ACCB740@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY127-W198812C0B81A038702C4ACCB740@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3400C71F@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Yep, most every time I visited Carl I'd start up that tractor.

Ran it last in September 2008.

Carl passed away last year and I don't know what will happen to his collection.  Haven't talked to his son yet to find out.

Sure wish I still had that Russell although I could never afford to buy it if was ever auctioned off.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Younger
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 12:06 PM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] George Best


George, seeing your post on the 4 hp Lorenz reminded me of something.  Last week, on RFD's Classic Tractors, I saw a tour of the Mehmke Farm Museum.  The man giving the tour showed a 1917 Russell, then mentioned that it is only run when the man he bought it from George Best, stops by to run it.

http://steamtraction.farmcollector.com/Farm-Shows/Mehmke-Museum-In-Montana.aspx

Bruce Younger   

05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68   

Madison, SD  

sluggo54 at hotmail.com   



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armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter."   

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From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Mon Jan  4 14:30:33 2010
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 22:30:33 -0000
Subject: [SEL] LEORI Engine
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed stoller" <edstoller at earthlink.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Cc: <joekaelin at msn.com>; <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:56 PM
Subject: [SEL] LEORI Engine


>I have been ask to help finding a gear for a small 2 cylinder Leroi  engine 
> ser. #  146740. The engine belongs to the Stephenson County Antique Engine 
> Club in Vermont, but the engine is in Illinois.  The magneto gear is fine, 
> but 4 or 5  teeth on the drive gear are missing. It's about a 4 inch gear. 
> The numbers on the gear are: A13-398  and  26-2-4.
> 
> The name 'Leori' is strange to me, so I wonder if that is correct. I would 
> think it would be "Leroy".  I don't know if the engine is gas or diesel.
> 
> Ed Stoller
> New Fairfield, CT
> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/

Hi Edd, The correct engine name is Leroi  meaning "The King" in French.
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv



From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Jan  4 15:00:14 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 18:00:14 -0500
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <002a01ca8d91$ad26dca0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Soon to be released, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??


> Hi George,
>
> Aren't those Lorenz engines just the SWEETEST runners?
>
> BTW, if any list members out there have Lorenz or Benz engines that are 
> NOT in the
> registry, please send me the details.  I need your name, city, state, and 
> country,
> engine HP & S/N, plus a listing of any unsual features and comments on 
> overall
> condition.  Pictures are a bonus.
>
> Please get me that info.  You don't want to be left out of the SOON TO BE 
> RELEASED
> major 2010 updated release of the Lorenz & Benz Registry!!
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> Arnie Fero
> Pittsburgh, PA
> Keeper of the Lorenz & Benz Engine Registry
> fero_ah at city-net.com
>
>
>
> On Mon, January 4, 2010 11:59 am, Best, George wrote:
>> I posted a message on the 1st, but it never showed up on SEL, so here it 
>> again.
>>
>> I ran my 4hp (large version) Lorenz for a few minutes on the 1st.  It's 
>> the one
>> engine I have where I can walk into the barn and within a few seconds 
>> have it
>> running.  Almost always starts on the first pull of the flywheel which is 
>> to trip
>> the magneto.
>>
>> I've got other engines that would also start easy, but they all need 
>> batteries and
>> coils hooked up and I don't keep batteries with the engines.  Plus they 
>> also would
>> need some fuel as I don't keep gas in their tanks as well.
>>
>> The old trusty Lorenz is the one I keep gas in just in case I want to run 
>> a engine
>> for myself or to show to a visitor.
>>
>> This is the second oldest Lorenz that I know of in the USA.
>> I'm sure Arnie could quickly confirm this or not with that Lorenz 
>> registry he
>> maintains so well. ;-)
>>
>> There is a youtube clip I posted 3 years ago of this engine running, just 
>> search for
>> "4hp Lorenz".  Can't post the youtube link at the moment, since I'm at 
>> work and
>> youtube is one of the many sites they block access to from work.  Wonder 
>> why?  ;-)
>
>
>
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From rotigel at me.com  Mon Jan  4 18:27:48 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:27:48 -0800
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??/now L&B Registry
In-Reply-To: <002a01ca8d91$ad26dca0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<002a01ca8d91$ad26dca0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <E7204F1E-B352-4B6C-949D-53EF2E7A11E1@me.com>

What Arnie has not told many of you is that his L&B Registry List is  
NOT free. Please send me $50.00 and I'll forward your name and address  
to Arnie!
	Dave

On Jan 4, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Mike Royster wrote:

> Soon to be released, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
>
>
>> Hi George,
>>
>> Aren't those Lorenz engines just the SWEETEST runners?
>>
>> BTW, if any list members out there have Lorenz or Benz engines that  
>> are
>> NOT in the
>> registry, please send me the details.  I need your name, city,  
>> state, and
>> country,
>> engine HP & S/N, plus a listing of any unsual features and comments  
>> on
>> overall
>> condition.  Pictures are a bonus.
>>
>> Please get me that info.  You don't want to be left out of the SOON  
>> TO BE
>> RELEASED
>> major 2010 updated release of the Lorenz & Benz Registry!!
>>
>> See ya,  Arnie
>>
>> Arnie Fero
>> Pittsburgh, PA
>> Keeper of the Lorenz & Benz Engine Registry
>> fero_ah at city-net.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, January 4, 2010 11:59 am, Best, George wrote:
>>> I posted a message on the 1st, but it never showed up on SEL, so  
>>> here it
>>> again.
>>>
>>> I ran my 4hp (large version) Lorenz for a few minutes on the 1st.   
>>> It's
>>> the one
>>> engine I have where I can walk into the barn and within a few  
>>> seconds
>>> have it
>>> running.  Almost always starts on the first pull of the flywheel  
>>> which is
>>> to trip
>>> the magneto.
>>>
>>> I've got other engines that would also start easy, but they all need
>>> batteries and
>>> coils hooked up and I don't keep batteries with the engines.  Plus  
>>> they
>>> also would
>>> need some fuel as I don't keep gas in their tanks as well.
>>>
>>> The old trusty Lorenz is the one I keep gas in just in case I want  
>>> to run
>>> a engine
>>> for myself or to show to a visitor.
>>>
>>> This is the second oldest Lorenz that I know of in the USA.
>>> I'm sure Arnie could quickly confirm this or not with that Lorenz
>>> registry he
>>> maintains so well. ;-)
>>>
>>> There is a youtube clip I posted 3 years ago of this engine  
>>> running, just
>>> search for
>>> "4hp Lorenz".  Can't post the youtube link at the moment, since  
>>> I'm at
>>> work and
>>> youtube is one of the many sites they block access to from work.   
>>> Wonder
>>> why?  ;-)
>>
>>
>>
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From edstoller at earthlink.net  Mon Jan  4 15:28:02 2010
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 18:28:02 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Leroi Engine, corrected
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<916586D23FD14BDAB2A9DB1DB672A475@Ed>
	<0C4431CB50A14CE7B6DAE4BF00976792@zen>
Message-ID: <0B56B1FF45CE42DFBE5E375D1C5A8160@Ed>

I have been accused of being lecdistic, so it got me again.

Bob, any idea of what make of tractor?

Ed
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Croft" <dave.croft at ntlworld.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Cc: <joekaelin at msn.com>; <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] LEORI Engine


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ed stoller" <edstoller at earthlink.net>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Cc: <joekaelin at msn.com>; <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:56 PM
> Subject: [SEL] LEORI Engine
>
>
>>I have been ask to help finding a gear for a small 2 cylinder Leroi 
>>engine ser. #  146740. The engine belongs to the Stephenson County Antique 
>>Engine Club in Vermont, but the engine is in Illinois.  The magneto gear 
>>is fine, but 4 or 5  teeth on the drive gear are missing. It's about a 4 
>>inch gear. The numbers on the gear are: A13-398  and  26-2-4.
>>
>> The name 'Leori' is strange to me, so I wonder if that is correct. I 
>> would think it would be "Leroy".  I don't know if the engine is gas or 
>> diesel.
>>
>> Ed Stoller
>> New Fairfield, CT
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/
>
> Hi Edd, The correct engine name is Leroi  meaning "The King" in French.
> Dave Croft
> Warrington
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> http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
>
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From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Mon Jan  4 16:24:52 2010
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 19:24:52 -0500
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP330A36446E6A13EA2B776197740@phx.gbl>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>,
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>,
	<BLU0-SMTP330A36446E6A13EA2B776197740@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <COL112-W2295A582BF4DDBC030DA0E95730@phx.gbl>


Larry ,  the registry was once open for all to seen and enjoy, until one day I send in pics and numbers for my Lorenz........ At that point  the keeper of the registry realized my Lorenz was the fairest of them all, even prettier than Sophia....... then the registry disappeared into invisibleness so no longer could anyone see that grand registry or my beautiful engine.  so so sad.  Maybe we should start a counter list! My brother got a copy of Arnies notes that day he slept through Belgium and most of Holland.  ps keep this under your hat,  Steve
 
> From: langer5 at sympatico.ca
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:15 -0500
> Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
> 
> George - that Lorenz of yours is sure a sweet running machine. - - As far 
> as the well maintained Lorenz registry produced and published by that 
> infamous European traveler Arnie, well I have searched high and low and have 
> determined that he has written all those many pages in invisible ink. I did 
> see with my own eyes, hour upon hour of dedicated time, to climbing over, 
> around, under, and through all kinds of rusty memorabilia with pen and 
> notebook in hand supposedly making known to the engine collectors of the 
> world the long awaited information from the Data plates of these great Czech 
> engines. But Alas, is the year 2010 going to be another year where we 
> wait!!!!! and wait!!!!! and wait!!!! only to be disappointed yet again??????
> 
> Larry Anger
> 163926 Brownsville Rd.
> R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario
> Canada N4G 4G8
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Best, George" <George_Best at adp.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 11:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
> 
> 
> >I posted a message on the 1st, but it never showed up on SEL, so here it 
> >again.
> >
> > I ran my 4hp (large version) Lorenz for a few minutes on the 1st. It's 
> > the one engine I have where I can walk into the barn and within a few 
> > seconds have it running. Almost always starts on the first pull of the 
> > flywheel which is to trip the magneto.
> >
> > I've got other engines that would also start easy, but they all need 
> > batteries and coils hooked up and I don't keep batteries with the engines. 
> > Plus they also would need some fuel as I don't keep gas in their tanks as 
> > well.
> >
> > The old trusty Lorenz is the one I keep gas in just in case I want to run 
> > a engine for myself or to show to a visitor.
> >
> > This is the second oldest Lorenz that I know of in the USA.
> > I'm sure Arnie could quickly confirm this or not with that Lorenz registry 
> > he maintains so well. ;-)
> >
> > There is a youtube clip I posted 3 years ago of this engine running, just 
> > search for "4hp Lorenz". Can't post the youtube link at the moment, since 
> > I'm at work and youtube is one of the many sites they block access to from 
> > work. Wonder why? ;-)
> >
> > George
> >
> >
> > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the 
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> > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments 
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From jlb94 at juno.com  Mon Jan  4 16:54:33 2010
From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 00:54:33 GMT
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <20100104.195433.25314.3@webmail14.vgs.untd.com>

Hi Tom,
Yes - THat's the one I didn't get.
I got the one from old-Iron though.
Plus - I tried to send out a thread about a week ago and got a message that I wasn't a subscriber.   I'm glad that message went out.  At least this time it didn't bounce back.


Joe "Pip" Betz said that. 
jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz
,-._,-.      http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz
\/)"(\/       
(_o_)    "Man will bury himself in plastic"
      
                


---------- Original Message ----------
From: Germoamer at aol.com
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: Re: [SEL] Test
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 15:22:44 EST

Joe,

I got my monthly reminder the other day with the below text:

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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Jan  4 17:59:09 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 20:59:09 -0500
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>,
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>,
	<BLU0-SMTP330A36446E6A13EA2B776197740@phx.gbl>
	<COL112-W2295A582BF4DDBC030DA0E95730@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <005b01ca8daa$ab7eefa0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

and oddly enough, the 4 Lorenz engines Harry and I just brought over are 
serial numbers 101,102,103 and 104.  Is this good that they are so old 
Arnie?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Royster" <steve_royster at hotmail.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??


>
> Larry ,  the registry was once open for all to seen and enjoy, until one 
> day I send in pics and numbers for my Lorenz........ At that point  the 
> keeper of the registry realized my Lorenz was the fairest of them all, 
> even prettier than Sophia....... then the registry disappeared into 
> invisibleness so no longer could anyone see that grand registry or my 
> beautiful engine.  so so sad.  Maybe we should start a counter list! My 
> brother got a copy of Arnies notes that day he slept through Belgium and 
> most of Holland.  ps keep this under your hat,  Steve
>
>> From: langer5 at sympatico.ca
>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:15 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
>>
>> George - that Lorenz of yours is sure a sweet running machine. - - As far
>> as the well maintained Lorenz registry produced and published by that
>> infamous European traveler Arnie, well I have searched high and low and 
>> have
>> determined that he has written all those many pages in invisible ink. I 
>> did
>> see with my own eyes, hour upon hour of dedicated time, to climbing over,
>> around, under, and through all kinds of rusty memorabilia with pen and
>> notebook in hand supposedly making known to the engine collectors of the
>> world the long awaited information from the Data plates of these great 
>> Czech
>> engines. But Alas, is the year 2010 going to be another year where we
>> wait!!!!! and wait!!!!! and wait!!!! only to be disappointed yet 
>> again??????
>>
>> Larry Anger
>> 163926 Brownsville Rd.
>> R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario
>> Canada N4G 4G8
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Best, George" <George_Best at adp.com>
>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 11:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
>>
>>
>> >I posted a message on the 1st, but it never showed up on SEL, so here it
>> >again.
>> >
>> > I ran my 4hp (large version) Lorenz for a few minutes on the 1st. It's
>> > the one engine I have where I can walk into the barn and within a few
>> > seconds have it running. Almost always starts on the first pull of the
>> > flywheel which is to trip the magneto.
>> >
>> > I've got other engines that would also start easy, but they all need
>> > batteries and coils hooked up and I don't keep batteries with the 
>> > engines.
>> > Plus they also would need some fuel as I don't keep gas in their tanks 
>> > as
>> > well.
>> >
>> > The old trusty Lorenz is the one I keep gas in just in case I want to 
>> > run
>> > a engine for myself or to show to a visitor.
>> >
>> > This is the second oldest Lorenz that I know of in the USA.
>> > I'm sure Arnie could quickly confirm this or not with that Lorenz 
>> > registry
>> > he maintains so well. ;-)
>> >
>> > There is a youtube clip I posted 3 years ago of this engine running, 
>> > just
>> > search for "4hp Lorenz". Can't post the youtube link at the moment, 
>> > since
>> > I'm at work and youtube is one of the many sites they block access to 
>> > from
>> > work. Wonder why? ;-)
>> >
>> > George
>> >
>> >
>> > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the
>> > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and 
>> > confidential.
>> > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an
>> > authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby
>> > notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly
>> > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please
>> > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any 
>> > attachments
>> > from your system.
>> >
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From jneth3 at mac.com  Mon Jan  4 18:16:49 2010
From: jneth3 at mac.com (John Neth)
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:16:49 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Re:  New Years crankup ??
In-Reply-To: <90b8de78ba15ff304ef2a4680c1e36b3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
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	<F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com>
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One of the few arcade games I was good at.  Took grandkids to Chucky Cheese in MD last week hoping to play a little.  All they had was an electronic version.  No fun at all.  Wacking that mole is a lot more fun than taping a lit button.  Got to find one of those that is still working.  Still need to make time to get one or two of my fathers engines cranking.  Wanted to have them all ready for this new years but didn't make it.  Maybe next year.

John

John W. Neth III

228 Old Milligan Highway
Johnson City, TN  37601
423-434-0978




 
On Monday, January 04, 2010, at 02:30PM, "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
>Ever play Whac-A-Mole?  8-))
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whac-A-Mole
>
>On Mon, January 4, 2010 2:02 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:
>> On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>>> Keeper of the Secret Lorenz & Benz Engine Registry
>>
>> You seem to be getting slow in your old age.
>> Youthful Arnie never would have poked his head
>> up long enough to allow for such a clean shot.
>
>
>
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Jan  4 19:04:03 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 22:04:03 -0500
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <002601ca8db3$bec5fff0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Now wait a minute, I think you guys are too hard on Arnie.  I like to think 
of him as my benchmark of "slackness."  Just the other day it occurred to me 
that I have had a very original 1.5hp Novo sitting on my workbench for 
several years and the last time I saw it run was when my brother Steve 
leaned into the spark plug as he was trying to crank it and it lit him up so 
good he danced around the shop cussing up a storm.  Then I'll be darned if 
he didn't lean into it again on the nest round and I thought he was 
reenacting the scene from "The Green Mile" where they lit up the prisoner in 
the electric chair.  I still see him dancing and shouting to this day.  Ahh, 
memories.  Oh, back to Arnie.  So anyway, last Fri I put it all back 
together, took it outside and ran it for the New Years day crank up in 
Arnie's honor.  After all, if I can have something in pieces for years and 
still beat, "The Yank Returns" or the restoration of the "Fero Compressor" 
or the "Lorenz Registry",  then I at least am "not as slack as Arnie." 
Isn't that the universal cry of engine men and women everywhere?  Every Sat 
morning all over the world we as a group are putting things together and 
making them run, and in the back of our minds you are repressing yelling 
out, "by Ned, at least I am not as slack as Arnie."  Once again cementing 
the common bond we all share, that no matter how bad it gets, when we run 
out of money, injure yourself on a cord or cordless drill, or you just put 
it off a bit, you always have the luxury of saying, "at least I'm not as 
slack as Arnie."  Well gentlemen and ladies, I don't take that luxury 
lightly or for granted.  So here's to you Arnie, a toast to the Potentate of 
Procrastinators, the Emperor of Excuses.  You my friend, make us all look 
just a little bit better and I for one say thank you, oh Sultan of 
Slackness!!!!

MR
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Skinner" <rob at rustyiron.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??


> On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>>
>> Arnie Fero
>> Pittsburgh, PA
>> Keeper of the Secret Lorenz & Benz Engine Registry
>
> Plan A:  OS X comes with iWeb, a fairly capable web page editor.
> Plan B:  Bevmo accepts online orders and can ship Pimms to the UK.
> Plan C:  Sell your Lorenz and start a Briggs & Stratton registry.
>
> Rob
>
> P.S.
> You seem to be getting slow in your old age.
> Youthful Arnie never would have poked his head
> up long enough to allow for such a clean shot.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Jan  4 19:05:51 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 22:05:51 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Spam> Re:  New Years crankup ??
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com><90b8de78ba15ff304ef2a4680c1e36b3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<20441716316909560616508089142741822255-Webmail@me.com>
Message-ID: <002d01ca8db4$0032cf40$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Don't you worry John, you will still beat Arnie no matter when you finish! 
:)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Neth" <jneth3 at mac.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Spam> Re: New Years crankup ??


> One of the few arcade games I was good at.  Took grandkids to Chucky 
> Cheese in MD last week hoping to play a little.  All they had was an 
> electronic version.  No fun at all.  Wacking that mole is a lot more fun 
> than taping a lit button.  Got to find one of those that is still working. 
> Still need to make time to get one or two of my fathers engines cranking. 
> Wanted to have them all ready for this new years but didn't make it. 
> Maybe next year.
>
> John
>
> John W. Neth III
>
> 228 Old Milligan Highway
> Johnson City, TN  37601
> 423-434-0978
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 04, 2010, at 02:30PM, "Arnie Fero" 
> <fero_ah at city-net.com> wrote:
>>Ever play Whac-A-Mole?  8-))
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whac-A-Mole
>>
>>On Mon, January 4, 2010 2:02 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:
>>> On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>>>> Keeper of the Secret Lorenz & Benz Engine Registry
>>>
>>> You seem to be getting slow in your old age.
>>> Youthful Arnie never would have poked his head
>>> up long enough to allow for such a clean shot.
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Mon Jan  4 20:08:29 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 15:08:29 +1100
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com>
	<002601ca8db3$bec5fff0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <0FFF63BBC70B4038A2673E9428EEF791@regpc>

Bugger you Mike! Another keyboard stuffed!!
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle. NSW. Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Royster" <mr at carolina.rr.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??


> Now wait a minute, I think you guys are too hard on Arnie.  I like to 
> think
> of him as my benchmark of "slackness."  Just the other day it occurred to 
> me
> that I have had a very original 1.5hp Novo sitting on my workbench for
> several years and the last time I saw it run was when my brother Steve
> leaned into the spark plug as he was trying to crank it and it lit him up 
> so
> good he danced around the shop cussing up a storm.  Then I'll be darned if
> he didn't lean into it again on the nest round and I thought he was
> reenacting the scene from "The Green Mile" where they lit up the prisoner 
> in
> the electric chair.  I still see him dancing and shouting to this day. 
> Ahh,
> memories.  Oh, back to Arnie.  So anyway, last Fri I put it all back
> together, took it outside and ran it for the New Years day crank up in
> Arnie's honor.  After all, if I can have something in pieces for years and
> still beat, "The Yank Returns" or the restoration of the "Fero Compressor"
> or the "Lorenz Registry",  then I at least am "not as slack as Arnie."
> Isn't that the universal cry of engine men and women everywhere?  Every 
> Sat
> morning all over the world we as a group are putting things together and
> making them run, and in the back of our minds you are repressing yelling
> out, "by Ned, at least I am not as slack as Arnie."  Once again cementing
> the common bond we all share, that no matter how bad it gets, when we run
> out of money, injure yourself on a cord or cordless drill, or you just put
> it off a bit, you always have the luxury of saying, "at least I'm not as
> slack as Arnie."  Well gentlemen and ladies, I don't take that luxury
> lightly or for granted.  So here's to you Arnie, a toast to the Potentate 
> of
> Procrastinators, the Emperor of Excuses.  You my friend, make us all look
> just a little bit better and I for one say thank you, oh Sultan of
> Slackness!!!!
>
> MR
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rob Skinner" <rob at rustyiron.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
>
>
>> On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>>>
>>> Arnie Fero
>>> Pittsburgh, PA
>>> Keeper of the Secret Lorenz & Benz Engine Registry
>>
>> Plan A:  OS X comes with iWeb, a fairly capable web page editor.
>> Plan B:  Bevmo accepts online orders and can ship Pimms to the UK.
>> Plan C:  Sell your Lorenz and start a Briggs & Stratton registry.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> P.S.
>> You seem to be getting slow in your old age.
>> Youthful Arnie never would have poked his head
>> up long enough to allow for such a clean shot.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SEL mailing list
>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From Germoamer at aol.com  Tue Jan  5 04:54:19 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 07:54:19 EST
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
Message-ID: <cf7.6c6267ee.3874907b@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 1/4/2010 10:07:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
mr at carolina.rr.com writes:

So  here's to you Arnie, a toast to the Potentate of 
Procrastinators, the  Emperor of Excuses.


Seems that the winter doldrums have arrived with gusto!  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com



From George_Best at adp.com  Tue Jan  5 10:00:43 2010
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 12:00:43 -0600
Subject: [SEL] OT: Sultan of Slackness
In-Reply-To: <002601ca8db3$bec5fff0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com>
	<002601ca8db3$bec5fff0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3407DEF0@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Mike,

We all appreciate Arnie's legendary procrastination skills. I even admit to having used him as an example to make my own procrastination look trivial.  I have unfinished projects in both engines and tractors that I seem to never find time to work on.  Thanks to Arnie, I don't feel the need to complete them.

Unfortunately, Arnie does find time to read these postings and most likely we have only encouraged him to seek even higher levels of procrastination.  The Lorenz Registry is surely doomed now.

George
  

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mike Royster
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 7:04 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??

Now wait a minute, I think you guys are too hard on Arnie.  I like to think 
of him as my benchmark of "slackness."  Just the other day it occurred to me 
that I have had a very original 1.5hp Novo sitting on my workbench for 
several years and the last time I saw it run was when my brother Steve 
leaned into the spark plug as he was trying to crank it and it lit him up so 
good he danced around the shop cussing up a storm.  Then I'll be darned if 
he didn't lean into it again on the nest round and I thought he was 
reenacting the scene from "The Green Mile" where they lit up the prisoner in 
the electric chair.  I still see him dancing and shouting to this day.  Ahh, 
memories.  Oh, back to Arnie.  So anyway, last Fri I put it all back 
together, took it outside and ran it for the New Years day crank up in 
Arnie's honor.  After all, if I can have something in pieces for years and 
still beat, "The Yank Returns" or the restoration of the "Fero Compressor" 
or the "Lorenz Registry",  then I at least am "not as slack as Arnie." 
Isn't that the universal cry of engine men and women everywhere?  Every Sat 
morning all over the world we as a group are putting things together and 
making them run, and in the back of our minds you are repressing yelling 
out, "by Ned, at least I am not as slack as Arnie."  Once again cementing 
the common bond we all share, that no matter how bad it gets, when we run 
out of money, injure yourself on a cord or cordless drill, or you just put 
it off a bit, you always have the luxury of saying, "at least I'm not as 
slack as Arnie."  Well gentlemen and ladies, I don't take that luxury 
lightly or for granted.  So here's to you Arnie, a toast to the Potentate of 
Procrastinators, the Emperor of Excuses.  You my friend, make us all look 
just a little bit better and I for one say thank you, oh Sultan of 
Slackness!!!!

MR


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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Jan  5 10:27:14 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:27:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] OT: Sultan of Slackness
In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3407DEF0@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com>
	<002601ca8db3$bec5fff0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3407DEF0@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
Message-ID: <a433d2d2579872df0215a2159e66af39.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

How did Mel Brooks put it?  "Its GOOD to be da king."

BTW, I like the sound of that; "Sultan of Slackness."
Does this mean I get a Portland harem of my own like Dave's?
http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/portland2001/people/davesharem.jpg
http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/portland03/sel/davesharem2.jpg
http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/usa05/portland/60.jpg

See ya,  Arnie

On Tue, January 5, 2010 1:00 pm, Best, George wrote:
> We all appreciate Arnie's legendary procrastination skills. I even admit to having
> used him as an example to make my own procrastination look trivial.  I have
> unfinished projects in both engines and tractors that I seem to never find time to
> work on.  Thanks to Arnie, I don't feel the need to complete them.
>
> Unfortunately, Arnie does find time to read these postings and most likely we have
> only encouraged him to seek even higher levels of procrastination.  The Lorenz
> Registry is surely doomed now.





From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  5 10:58:43 2010
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:58:43 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT: Sultan of Slackness
In-Reply-To: <a433d2d2579872df0215a2159e66af39.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>,
	<F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com>,
	<002601ca8db3$bec5fff0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>,
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3407DEF0@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>,
	<a433d2d2579872df0215a2159e66af39.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <COL112-W227FE5F7CCBC8BFEE9466795730@phx.gbl>


Arnie, My Man, you'll get your harem at Portland allright, but you need to think more like the Ladies of Salamonia Diner  instead of the quality of Dave's ladies!  Sackness does have it's own rewards!  Steve

 

 


 
> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:27:14 -0500
> From: fero_ah at city-net.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Sultan of Slackness
> 
> How did Mel Brooks put it? "Its GOOD to be da king."
> 
> BTW, I like the sound of that; "Sultan of Slackness."
> Does this mean I get a Portland harem of my own like Dave's?
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/portland2001/people/davesharem.jpg
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/portland03/sel/davesharem2.jpg
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/usa05/portland/60.jpg
> 
> See ya, Arnie
> 
> On Tue, January 5, 2010 1:00 pm, Best, George wrote:
> > We all appreciate Arnie's legendary procrastination skills. I even admit to having
> > used him as an example to make my own procrastination look trivial. I have
> > unfinished projects in both engines and tractors that I seem to never find time to
> > work on. Thanks to Arnie, I don't feel the need to complete them.
> >
> > Unfortunately, Arnie does find time to read these postings and most likely we have
> > only encouraged him to seek even higher levels of procrastination. The Lorenz
> > Registry is surely doomed now.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
 		 	   		  
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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Tue Jan  5 12:06:56 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 07:06:56 +1100
Subject: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
References: <cf7.6c6267ee.3874907b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <28E7523D995948FD8FA685988BCEC782@regpc>

Hey, ya still got the onset of Cabin Fever to come!
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle. NSW. Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Germoamer at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??


> 
> In a message dated 1/4/2010 10:07:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
> mr at carolina.rr.com writes:
> 
> So  here's to you Arnie, a toast to the Potentate of 
> Procrastinators, the  Emperor of Excuses.
> 
> 
> Seems that the winter doldrums have arrived with gusto!  
> 
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord,  Va.
> germoamer at AOL.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel


From mr at carolina.rr.com  Tue Jan  5 14:29:20 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 17:29:20 -0500
Subject: [SEL] OT: Sultan of Slackness
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20091231200428.028a8ac0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F33FB6459@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com><175b28c78e27820af26940eb8b266bf2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><F4DB7683-71B7-49C1-BDBE-5F6F7D4E0383@rustyiron.com><002601ca8db3$bec5fff0$0201a8c0@mikecomp><0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3407DEF0@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
	<a433d2d2579872df0215a2159e66af39.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <001c01ca8e56$86967760$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Sure it does, as soon as you get around to organizing the sign up sheet!!!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Sultan of Slackness


> How did Mel Brooks put it?  "Its GOOD to be da king."
>
> BTW, I like the sound of that; "Sultan of Slackness."
> Does this mean I get a Portland harem of my own like Dave's?
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/portland2001/people/davesharem.jpg
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/portland03/sel/davesharem2.jpg
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/usa05/portland/60.jpg
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> On Tue, January 5, 2010 1:00 pm, Best, George wrote:
>> We all appreciate Arnie's legendary procrastination skills. I even admit 
>> to having
>> used him as an example to make my own procrastination look trivial.  I 
>> have
>> unfinished projects in both engines and tractors that I seem to never 
>> find time to
>> work on.  Thanks to Arnie, I don't feel the need to complete them.
>>
>> Unfortunately, Arnie does find time to read these postings and most 
>> likely we have
>> only encouraged him to seek even higher levels of procrastination.  The 
>> Lorenz
>> Registry is surely doomed now.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From swebre at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  5 17:48:17 2010
From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:48:17 +0000
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 70, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1262710802.2087.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
References: <mailman.0.1262710802.2087.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com>
Message-ID: <SNT125-W60CB79477F2D40D9135AFDB720@phx.gbl>


Hey Arnie!! 

How much more can you take?  :)

-Steve- 



--Forwarded Message Attachment--
From: mr at carolina.rr.com
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 22:04:03 -0500
Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??

Now wait a minute, I think you guys are too hard on Arnie.  I like to think 
of him as my benchmark of "slackness."  Just the other day it occurred to me 
that I have had a very original 1.5hp Novo sitting on my workbench for 
several years and the last time I saw it run was when my brother Steve 
leaned into the spark plug as he was trying to crank it and it lit him up so 
good he danced around the shop cussing up a storm.  Then I'll be darned if 
he didn't lean into it again on the nest round and I thought he was 
reenacting the scene from "The Green Mile" where they lit up the prisoner in 
the electric chair.  I still see him dancing and shouting to this day.  Ahh, 
memories.  Oh, back to Arnie.  So anyway, last Fri I put it all back 
together, took it outside and ran it for the New Years day crank up in 
Arnie's honor.  After all, if I can have something in pieces for years and 
still beat, "The Yank Returns" or the restoration of the "Fero Compressor" 
or the "Lorenz Registry",  then I at least am "not as slack as Arnie." 
Isn't that the universal cry of engine men and women everywhere?  Every Sat 
morning all over the world we as a group are putting things together and 
making them run, and in the back of our minds you are repressing yelling 
out, "by Ned, at least I am not as slack as Arnie."  Once again cementing 
the common bond we all share, that no matter how bad it gets, when we run 
out of money, injure yourself on a cord or cordless drill, or you just put 
it off a bit, you always have the luxury of saying, "at least I'm not as 
slack as Arnie."  Well gentlemen and ladies, I don't take that luxury 
lightly or for granted.  So here's to you Arnie, a toast to the Potentate of 
Procrastinators, the Emperor of Excuses.  You my friend, make us all look 
just a little bit better and I for one say thank you, oh Sultan of 
Slackness!!!!
 
MR
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Skinner" <rob at rustyiron.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] New Years crankup ??
 
 
> On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>>
>> Arnie Fero
>> Pittsburgh, PA
>> Keeper of the Secret Lorenz & Benz Engine Registry
>
> Plan A:  OS X comes with iWeb, a fairly capable web page editor.
> Plan B:  Bevmo accepts online orders and can ship Pimms to the UK.
> Plan C:  Sell your Lorenz and start a Briggs & Stratton registry.
>
> Rob
>
> P.S.
> You seem to be getting slow in your old age.
> Youthful Arnie never would have poked his head
> up long enough to allow for such a clean shot.
>
 
 		 	   		  

From jd.kirkes at verizon.net  Wed Jan  6 02:37:10 2010
From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes)
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:37:10 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Marv Hedburg
Message-ID: <FB4ECA04867A40EF94E6006BC6821A10@Desktop>

Does anybody have a current email address for Marv?

Jim 

Jim and Diane Kirkes
jd.kirkes at verizon.net


From asouth42 at embarqmail.com  Wed Jan  6 05:22:13 2010
From: asouth42 at embarqmail.com (Arthur Southwell)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 08:22:13 -0500
Subject: [SEL] O.T. 7.3L Ford Diesel
Message-ID: <PLEDKPBKJICPFJKIOMLFOEBFCGAA.asouth42@embarqmail.com>

Hello list(s)

Several folks on the list have Ford 7.3L Diesels and from time to time have
little problems and ask for opinions or help. Here's a money saving tip for
you who can do your known repairs.

Monday we had a little cold snap here in mid-Florida. Thirty-one degrees F.
I waited until things warmed up a bit, 36F, then drove three miles to the
Court House to turn in a lic. tag. When I returned to the parking lot, I
noticed a rather large puddle under my truck. I knew I hadn't been running
the A/C, so it couldn't be good news. And it wasn't; it was diesel fuel. I
sped back to the shop and popped the hood. Investigation lead to a leaking
drain valve on the fuel filter.

I called Ford Parts Dept. and was informed that it is common for the valve
to leak during a cold snap an the fix was a complete new valve assembly. I
asked the price and almost spit out my teeth. My cost was $51.75 with a list
of $75 and change. They told me they had sold 4 valves that morning and were
out of stock for a few days.

 That turned out to be good luck for me.

I had looked in the shop manual at an Illustration of the fuel filter body
assembly and knew there were two "O" rings tom seal the valve body to the
filter can. Of course F-O-R-D doesn't sell the "O" rings.

I removed the valve for a look-see. I noticed the "O" ring was thick and
almost a "square cut" outside and the inside hole was beveled on both sides.
I cleaned off the flaking yellow dye coating, turned the "O" rings over.
This made the "O" ring "stand" off a few thousandths and I knew it would
seal against the "ball" on the spool valve. I removed the "spool" valve,
removed the "O" ring and replaces it with a common xxx108 "O" ring and
reassembled the valve and re-installed the valve on the filter can. Walla,
no leaking fuel and I'm $51.00 better off.

I hope this little bit of information will help one of you some day if your
valve goes to leaking.

C'ya,

Arthur Southwell
Arthur Southwell Repair
Arthur Southwell Rebuilding
Arcadia, FL 34266 USA

Asouth42 at embarqmail.com



From edurand at mchsi.com  Wed Jan  6 07:00:53 2010
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 09:00:53 -0600
Subject: [SEL] O.T. 7.3L Ford Diesel
In-Reply-To: <PLEDKPBKJICPFJKIOMLFOEBFCGAA.asouth42@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBKEMBIJAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

'Ya done good, Art!

I always like it when I can repair something and "cheat the junk man".

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Arthur
> Southwell
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 07:22 AM
> To: 
> antique-johndeere-request at lists.antique-tractor.co
> m; ATIS-SEL;
> antique-tractor at atis.net; Antique Tractor List; 
> Old Engine.org; JDAT_new
> Subject: [SEL] O.T. 7.3L Ford Diesel




From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Wed Jan  6 11:59:45 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 06:59:45 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Marv Hedburg
References: <FB4ECA04867A40EF94E6006BC6821A10@Desktop>
Message-ID: <07C7A137FB4E4945A690DF8FFA892C56@regpc>

Here is what I have.
  marvhed at gmail.com


Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle. NSW. Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Kirkes" <jd.kirkes at verizon.net>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Old_Engine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 9:37 PM
Subject: [SEL] Marv Hedburg


> Does anybody have a current email address for Marv?
>
> Jim
>
> Jim and Diane Kirkes
> jd.kirkes at verizon.net
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From dave.croft at ntlworld.com  Thu Jan  7 05:06:49 2010
From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:06:49 -0000
Subject: [SEL] Tongue in cheek mechanical education
Message-ID: <46120880E65E4417BE3A13D30B502AFA@zen>

The Turbo-Encabulator
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXW0bx_Ooq4
For these cold days. 8^)
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv


From edurand at mchsi.com  Thu Jan  7 08:25:14 2010
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:25:14 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Tongue in cheek mechanical education
In-Reply-To: <46120880E65E4417BE3A13D30B502AFA@zen>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBKEMHIJAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Wow!  I need to get one of those Turbo-Encabulators for the 2009 Algore Edition Green Hybrid Hoyt-Clagwell!

I think, though, that I will include a transluctance bicromulator and indicating lamp (kerosene fueled) to make it more interesting to the user.

Ahhh.  Ain't science teriffic!

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Dave Croft
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 07:07 AM
> To: atis
> Cc: Oldengine.org
> Subject: [SEL] Tongue in cheek mechanical education
> 
> 
> The Turbo-Encabulator
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXW0bx_Ooq4
> For these cold days. 8^)
> Dave Croft




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Jan  9 08:42:41 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 11:42:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Sultan of Slackness
Message-ID: <a27a006481a9642173c270d6e7d3af81.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

George's post got me to thinking (as many of his posts do).

Now I'm guessing that I'm more like most of the folks on the
list in terms of having a "projects list" that will probably
outlast me.  And it has a couple of projects that can surely
be considered "vintage" as they've been "on the list" as long
as I've been in the hobby.

So, the thread topic for a cold winter day with the snow
drifting ever higher against the shed, what are the "vintage
projects" on YOUR projects list?  These are those projects that,
like fine wine or good cheese, just get better and better the
longer they sit.  I'll start out with a couple of mine...

I'd been a fan of old engines for years before I got my first
piece of rusty old iron.  That first project was a really sad
old two-cylinder duplex water pump that I got at auction for
$10 back in 1994.  That's what started the acquiring phase
of my participation in the hobby.

That ol' water pump is STILL on the list; but it is NEARLY done.
She's all restored, painted, and fully functional.  All she
lacks now are some long high-crown hex bolts to finish her off.
And the hex stock is even sitting on the bench by the lathe.

My first engine was a 1-1/2 HP IHC "M" that I bought in 1996.
The seller ran it for me by putting some gas in the mixer bowl.
After I got it home, I cleaned it well and decided to build a
proper "M" cart.  That project took a while and when finished
I decided to give the "M" a good run.  Poured gas in the tank
and it ran out the bottom faster than it was going in.  I decided
that tank replacement was a job for "another day" and the engine
went under the bench (and became the second entry on the "vintage"
list.  That one finally came off the list when I converted the
engine to propane and hot tube ignition in time for the 2006
Coolspring show.  She's been a regular at shows ever since.

My second engine is STILL on the projects list.  This is a 3-1/2 HP
United, TG kero burner.  That was a 1996 auction purchase that
had been "cobbled" to high tension ignition by a previous owner.
I decided to restore it to original features.  The bronze body
mag was a pricy hunt and the ignitor was also a lengthy hunt.
I'm currently "working" on the plumbing for the fuel system, the
two compartment tank, and building the ignitor trip linkage.
One day she'll be a runner...  8-))

So, how 'bout you?  Have you got any of those "vintage" projects
on YOUR list that just keep getting better with age?  Don't be
shy, you're NOT alone!

See ya,  Arnie

Arnie Fero
Pittsburgh, PA
fero_ah at city-net.com

> On Tue, January 5, 2010 1:00 pm, Best, George wrote:
>> We all appreciate Arnie's legendary procrastination skills. I even admit to having
>> used him as an example to make my own procrastination look trivial.  I have
>> unfinished projects in both engines and tractors that I seem to never find time to
>> work on.  Thanks to Arnie, I don't feel the need to complete them.
>>
>> Unfortunately, Arnie does find time to read these postings and most likely we have
>> only encouraged him to seek even higher levels of procrastination.  The Lorenz
>> Registry is surely doomed now.
>




From langer5 at sympatico.ca  Sat Jan  9 09:47:59 2010
From: langer5 at sympatico.ca (Larry Anger)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 12:47:59 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Sultan of Slackness
References: <a27a006481a9642173c270d6e7d3af81.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP79FA3673ADE4E9EE8E0B5A976F0@phx.gbl>

Arnie - Sorry to say but I am much much worse off than you. I have a whole 
barn full of projects that I just can't seem to find the time to get to. The 
biggest project I guess is a 20HP Reid that I have been hoping to get to our 
local show for years but just haven't quite got it finished yet. It has to 
have a dedicated trailer which is still a long way from finished. I really 
don't think if I lived to be 200 I'd be finished the list.

Larry Anger
163926 Brownsville Rd.
R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario
Canada N4G 4G8
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Sultan of Slackness


> George's post got me to thinking (as many of his posts do).
>
> Now I'm guessing that I'm more like most of the folks on the
> list in terms of having a "projects list" that will probably
> outlast me.  And it has a couple of projects that can surely
> be considered "vintage" as they've been "on the list" as long
> as I've been in the hobby.
>
> So, the thread topic for a cold winter day with the snow
> drifting ever higher against the shed, what are the "vintage
> projects" on YOUR projects list?  These are those projects that,
> like fine wine or good cheese, just get better and better the
> longer they sit.  I'll start out with a couple of mine...
>
> I'd been a fan of old engines for years before I got my first
> piece of rusty old iron.  That first project was a really sad
> old two-cylinder duplex water pump that I got at auction for
> $10 back in 1994.  That's what started the acquiring phase
> of my participation in the hobby.
>
> That ol' water pump is STILL on the list; but it is NEARLY done.
> She's all restored, painted, and fully functional.  All she
> lacks now are some long high-crown hex bolts to finish her off.
> And the hex stock is even sitting on the bench by the lathe.
>
> My first engine was a 1-1/2 HP IHC "M" that I bought in 1996.
> The seller ran it for me by putting some gas in the mixer bowl.
> After I got it home, I cleaned it well and decided to build a
> proper "M" cart.  That project took a while and when finished
> I decided to give the "M" a good run.  Poured gas in the tank
> and it ran out the bottom faster than it was going in.  I decided
> that tank replacement was a job for "another day" and the engine
> went under the bench (and became the second entry on the "vintage"
> list.  That one finally came off the list when I converted the
> engine to propane and hot tube ignition in time for the 2006
> Coolspring show.  She's been a regular at shows ever since.
>
> My second engine is STILL on the projects list.  This is a 3-1/2 HP
> United, TG kero burner.  That was a 1996 auction purchase that
> had been "cobbled" to high tension ignition by a previous owner.
> I decided to restore it to original features.  The bronze body
> mag was a pricy hunt and the ignitor was also a lengthy hunt.
> I'm currently "working" on the plumbing for the fuel system, the
> two compartment tank, and building the ignitor trip linkage.
> One day she'll be a runner...  8-))
>
> So, how 'bout you?  Have you got any of those "vintage" projects
> on YOUR list that just keep getting better with age?  Don't be
> shy, you're NOT alone!
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> Arnie Fero
> Pittsburgh, PA
> fero_ah at city-net.com
>
>> On Tue, January 5, 2010 1:00 pm, Best, George wrote:
>>> We all appreciate Arnie's legendary procrastination skills. I even admit 
>>> to having
>>> used him as an example to make my own procrastination look trivial.  I 
>>> have
>>> unfinished projects in both engines and tractors that I seem to never 
>>> find time to
>>> work on.  Thanks to Arnie, I don't feel the need to complete them.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, Arnie does find time to read these postings and most 
>>> likely we have
>>> only encouraged him to seek even higher levels of procrastination.  The 
>>> Lorenz
>>> Registry is surely doomed now.
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 



From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Sat Jan  9 11:20:12 2010
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 14:20:12 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Sultan of Slackness
In-Reply-To: <a27a006481a9642173c270d6e7d3af81.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <a27a006481a9642173c270d6e7d3af81.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <COL112-W371CDB3BD7D47EF0A30840956F0@phx.gbl>


Arnie, The shop is full of unfinished projects but engineprojects, lets see.... There is the 6hp Foos waiting on a cart to go under it. There is the 6hp Gade needing new fuel lines
There is the 3 hp Stickney that need the paint stripped off it and the fuel pump castings machined. And  now the 2hp National is disassembled all over the shop and slowly going back together as each rusty part comes out of the electrolysis bucket.  Oh I forgot about the Samson waiting to be put back together after its sailing voyage last month.   But I'll be done by Coolspring in June!   Steve

 

 

 

 
> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 11:42:41 -0500
> From: fero_ah at city-net.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Sultan of Slackness
> 
> George's post got me to thinking (as many of his posts do).
> 
> Now I'm guessing that I'm more like most of the folks on the
> list in terms of having a "projects list" that will probably
> outlast me. And it has a couple of projects that can surely
> be considered "vintage" as they've been "on the list" as long
> as I've been in the hobby.
> 
> So, the thread topic for a cold winter day with the snow
> drifting ever higher against the shed, what are the "vintage
> projects" on YOUR projects list? These are those projects that,
> like fine wine or good cheese, just get better and better the
> longer they sit. I'll start out with a couple of mine...
> 
> I'd been a fan of old engines for years before I got my first
> piece of rusty old iron. That first project was a really sad
> old two-cylinder duplex water pump that I got at auction for
> $10 back in 1994. That's what started the acquiring phase
> of my participation in the hobby.
> 
> That ol' water pump is STILL on the list; but it is NEARLY done.
> She's all restored, painted, and fully functional. All she
> lacks now are some long high-crown hex bolts to finish her off.
> And the hex stock is even sitting on the bench by the lathe.
> 
> My first engine was a 1-1/2 HP IHC "M" that I bought in 1996.
> The seller ran it for me by putting some gas in the mixer bowl.
> After I got it home, I cleaned it well and decided to build a
> proper "M" cart. That project took a while and when finished
> I decided to give the "M" a good run. Poured gas in the tank
> and it ran out the bottom faster than it was going in. I decided
> that tank replacement was a job for "another day" and the engine
> went under the bench (and became the second entry on the "vintage"
> list. That one finally came off the list when I converted the
> engine to propane and hot tube ignition in time for the 2006
> Coolspring show. She's been a regular at shows ever since.
> 
> My second engine is STILL on the projects list. This is a 3-1/2 HP
> United, TG kero burner. That was a 1996 auction purchase that
> had been "cobbled" to high tension ignition by a previous owner.
> I decided to restore it to original features. The bronze body
> mag was a pricy hunt and the ignitor was also a lengthy hunt.
> I'm currently "working" on the plumbing for the fuel system, the
> two compartment tank, and building the ignitor trip linkage.
> One day she'll be a runner... 8-))
> 
> So, how 'bout you? Have you got any of those "vintage" projects
> on YOUR list that just keep getting better with age? Don't be
> shy, you're NOT alone!
> 
> See ya, Arnie
> 
> Arnie Fero
> Pittsburgh, PA
> fero_ah at city-net.com
> 
> > On Tue, January 5, 2010 1:00 pm, Best, George wrote:
> >> We all appreciate Arnie's legendary procrastination skills. I even admit to having
> >> used him as an example to make my own procrastination look trivial. I have
> >> unfinished projects in both engines and tractors that I seem to never find time to
> >> work on. Thanks to Arnie, I don't feel the need to complete them.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, Arnie does find time to read these postings and most likely we have
> >> only encouraged him to seek even higher levels of procrastination. The Lorenz
> >> Registry is surely doomed now.
> >
> 
> 
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From dombros2 at clearmail.com.au  Sat Jan  9 11:46:58 2010
From: dombros2 at clearmail.com.au (Ted & Sue Domeney)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 06:46:58 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Sultan of Slackness
Message-ID: <1238F72687654853B2E6D5661CE3CFA2@HOUSE>

Hey there
Does it have to be engines? This is OT, but here we go.
I married near on 44 years ago and moved from my Dad and Mum's house, to the original (Grandpa's) house on the farm.I started out on painting the house, which was a big wooden building going back to 1880.

30 years later, family grown and gone, my wife said "we're moving to your father's house". He and Mum had now passed on. I objected. We moved.

The old house still stands, painting still unfinished.

Teddy
(Sorry, no snow, warm, dry 70 to 80 degrees daily.)

From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sat Jan  9 12:12:37 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 22:12:37 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Sultan of Slackness
In-Reply-To: <a27a006481a9642173c270d6e7d3af81.squirrel@webmail.city-net .com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100109212013.02806518@mail.atech.co.za>

Great Topic Arnie,
         Heres my story. As most of you know, I've only been involved in 
this hobby since about 2004 but had the interest for many years before 
that. I grew up on a farm and my Dad had a small Lister "D" coupled to a 32 
volt genny for lights in the house. I was at boarding school but during 
school holidays it was my job to start the engine every evening. That 
"doef, doef, doef" sound every night was as much a part of farm life as the 
squeaky windmill.

         I moved to the city but always longed for a Lister D to restore - 
just to be able to run it occasionally for the nostalgia. Then about 25 
years ago living in the suburbs finally got too much for me and I bought a 
smallholding about 30 miles from Johannesburg. The first thing I bought was 
a Massey Ferguson 35 tractor which was running but in bad condition - I 
restored it which was a pretty easy job, the most it needed apart from 
painting was a new clutch and wiring. (If you live in the country you've 
gotta have a tractor - not so). My Dad had farmed with MF 35 X's (the 
diesel version - mine was a petrol paraffin model).

         Then in about 1985 I found a Massey Harris Pony which I just had 
to have. It was complete (but painted grey) with its single furrow 
(manually operated) plough (plow) but not running. I brought it home as a 
"future project". I had a business in town and time was very short for 
hobby projects and it stood outdoors for nearly 20 years. I had many people 
enquiring to buy it during that time but it was "Not for sale!". I even 
earned the nickname Jerry "Not For Sale" Evans !!

         Horrors, I've just realised that I almost became a FATG !!

         Then in about 2004 I made the discovery that collecting vintage 
stationary engines and restoring them was a world wide phenomenon and very 
popular. I met a few local collectors and the bug bit - I caught the 
sickness for which there is no cure :-)

         I decided to get started on an engine or two purely as a precursor 
to restoring the Massey Harris Pony. Well the rest is history. I've done 
quite a few engines in that time and have more than 50 "future projects" in 
the shed most of which I will probably not get done in my lifetime (but 
they are safe from the scrappie there - that's my story and I'm sticking to 
it :-))

         Oh, and the Massey Harris Pony - well, it's still a future project 
but at least it is now under cover and on blocks - also safe from the 
scrappie. I have not removed one bolt or nut from it - it will remain that 
way until the day arrives (if ever) that I know that I can afford the money 
and time to start the project and see it through to completion. I have seen 
too many similar projects started by the unwary end up in boxes never to be 
completed. I have also, since acquired a Massey Harris Sunshine Harvester 
which will one day make a great display with the Pony but it's also a 
"future project" and also under cover - safe from the scrappie.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.

P.S. It's frightening to suddenly realise that I was so close to being a 
FATG :-)



At 06:42 PM 09/01/2010, you wrote:
>George's post got me to thinking (as many of his posts do).
>
>Now I'm guessing that I'm more like most of the folks on the
>list in terms of having a "projects list" that will probably
>outlast me.  And it has a couple of projects that can surely
>be considered "vintage" as they've been "on the list" as long
>as I've been in the hobby.
>
>So, the thread topic for a cold winter day with the snow
>drifting ever higher against the shed, what are the "vintage
>projects" on YOUR projects list?  These are those projects that,
>like fine wine or good cheese, just get better and better the
>longer they sit.  I'll start out with a couple of mine...
>
>I'd been a fan of old engines for years before I got my first
>piece of rusty old iron.  That first project was a really sad
>old two-cylinder duplex water pump that I got at auction for
>$10 back in 1994.  That's what started the acquiring phase
>of my participation in the hobby.
>
>That ol' water pump is STILL on the list; but it is NEARLY done.
>She's all restored, painted, and fully functional.  All she
>lacks now are some long high-crown hex bolts to finish her off.
>And the hex stock is even sitting on the bench by the lathe.
>
>My first engine was a 1-1/2 HP IHC "M" that I bought in 1996.
>The seller ran it for me by putting some gas in the mixer bowl.
>After I got it home, I cleaned it well and decided to build a
>proper "M" cart.  That project took a while and when finished
>I decided to give the "M" a good run.  Poured gas in the tank
>and it ran out the bottom faster than it was going in.  I decided
>that tank replacement was a job for "another day" and the engine
>went under the bench (and became the second entry on the "vintage"
>list.  That one finally came off the list when I converted the
>engine to propane and hot tube ignition in time for the 2006
>Coolspring show.  She's been a regular at shows ever since.
>
>My second engine is STILL on the projects list.  This is a 3-1/2 HP
>United, TG kero burner.  That was a 1996 auction purchase that
>had been "cobbled" to high tension ignition by a previous owner.
>I decided to restore it to original features.  The bronze body
>mag was a pricy hunt and the ignitor was also a lengthy hunt.
>I'm currently "working" on the plumbing for the fuel system, the
>two compartment tank, and building the ignitor trip linkage.
>One day she'll be a runner...  8-))
>
>So, how 'bout you?  Have you got any of those "vintage" projects
>on YOUR list that just keep getting better with age?  Don't be
>shy, you're NOT alone!
>
>See ya,  Arnie
>
>Arnie Fero
>Pittsburgh, PA
>fero_ah at city-net.com
>
> > On Tue, January 5, 2010 1:00 pm, Best, George wrote:
> >> We all appreciate Arnie's legendary procrastination skills. I even 
> admit to having
> >> used him as an example to make my own procrastination look trivial.  I 
> have
> >> unfinished projects in both engines and tractors that I seem to never 
> find time to
> >> work on.  Thanks to Arnie, I don't feel the need to complete them.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, Arnie does find time to read these postings and most 
> likely we have
> >> only encouraged him to seek even higher levels of 
> procrastination.  The Lorenz
> >> Registry is surely doomed now.
> >
>
>
>
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Sat Jan  9 12:25:27 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 15:25:27 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Sultan of Slackness
References: <a27a006481a9642173c270d6e7d3af81.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<COL112-W371CDB3BD7D47EF0A30840956F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <005501ca9169$e1b96e20$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Hmmm, let's see.  Paint the house this spring, remodel the upstairs 
bathroom, clean out the attic, rearrange my shop, put SEVERAL engines on 
carts, finish and engine or two, finish assembling the 4 Lorenz engines that 
just came across the pond, but it is 12 degrees out this am and they are in 
an unheated warehouse.  Dang, I have Fero Fever!!!!!!!

MR


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Royster" <steve_royster at hotmail.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Sultan of Slackness



Arnie, The shop is full of unfinished projects but engineprojects, lets 
see.... There is the 6hp Foos waiting on a cart to go under it. There is the 
6hp Gade needing new fuel lines
There is the 3 hp Stickney that need the paint stripped off it and the fuel 
pump castings machined. And  now the 2hp National is disassembled all over 
the shop and slowly going back together as each rusty part comes out of the 
electrolysis bucket.  Oh I forgot about the Samson waiting to be put back 
together after its sailing voyage last month.   But I'll be done by 
Coolspring in June!   Steve








> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 11:42:41 -0500
> From: fero_ah at city-net.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Sultan of Slackness
>
> George's post got me to thinking (as many of his posts do).
>
> Now I'm guessing that I'm more like most of the folks on the
> list in terms of having a "projects list" that will probably
> outlast me. And it has a couple of projects that can surely
> be considered "vintage" as they've been "on the list" as long
> as I've been in the hobby.
>
> So, the thread topic for a cold winter day with the snow
> drifting ever higher against the shed, what are the "vintage
> projects" on YOUR projects list? These are those projects that,
> like fine wine or good cheese, just get better and better the
> longer they sit. I'll start out with a couple of mine...
>
> I'd been a fan of old engines for years before I got my first
> piece of rusty old iron. That first project was a really sad
> old two-cylinder duplex water pump that I got at auction for
> $10 back in 1994. That's what started the acquiring phase
> of my participation in the hobby.
>
> That ol' water pump is STILL on the list; but it is NEARLY done.
> She's all restored, painted, and fully functional. All she
> lacks now are some long high-crown hex bolts to finish her off.
> And the hex stock is even sitting on the bench by the lathe.
>
> My first engine was a 1-1/2 HP IHC "M" that I bought in 1996.
> The seller ran it for me by putting some gas in the mixer bowl.
> After I got it home, I cleaned it well and decided to build a
> proper "M" cart. That project took a while and when finished
> I decided to give the "M" a good run. Poured gas in the tank
> and it ran out the bottom faster than it was going in. I decided
> that tank replacement was a job for "another day" and the engine
> went under the bench (and became the second entry on the "vintage"
> list. That one finally came off the list when I converted the
> engine to propane and hot tube ignition in time for the 2006
> Coolspring show. She's been a regular at shows ever since.
>
> My second engine is STILL on the projects list. This is a 3-1/2 HP
> United, TG kero burner. That was a 1996 auction purchase that
> had been "cobbled" to high tension ignition by a previous owner.
> I decided to restore it to original features. The bronze body
> mag was a pricy hunt and the ignitor was also a lengthy hunt.
> I'm currently "working" on the plumbing for the fuel system, the
> two compartment tank, and building the ignitor trip linkage.
> One day she'll be a runner... 8-))
>
> So, how 'bout you? Have you got any of those "vintage" projects
> on YOUR list that just keep getting better with age? Don't be
> shy, you're NOT alone!
>
> See ya, Arnie
>
> Arnie Fero
> Pittsburgh, PA
> fero_ah at city-net.com
>
> > On Tue, January 5, 2010 1:00 pm, Best, George wrote:
> >> We all appreciate Arnie's legendary procrastination skills. I even 
> >> admit to having
> >> used him as an example to make my own procrastination look trivial. I 
> >> have
> >> unfinished projects in both engines and tractors that I seem to never 
> >> find time to
> >> work on. Thanks to Arnie, I don't feel the need to complete them.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, Arnie does find time to read these postings and most 
> >> likely we have
> >> only encouraged him to seek even higher levels of procrastination. The 
> >> Lorenz
> >> Registry is surely doomed now.
> >
>
>
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From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com  Sun Jan 10 17:02:01 2010
From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 20:02:01 EST
Subject: [SEL] Crossley Engine
Message-ID: <cf6.6b947f44.387bd289@aol.com>

I have just bought a Crossley Type M engine with serial number   55302.  
Can any of you SEL members tell me when it was built and a little  history on 
the engine. 
Thank You
Kevin K 
 
BIGFLYWHEEL at AOL.COM


From rob at rustyiron.com  Mon Jan 11 15:36:01 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:36:01 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Crossley Engine
In-Reply-To: <cf6.6b947f44.387bd289@aol.com>
References: <cf6.6b947f44.387bd289@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6999519A-5E6B-47B5-9A59-C8463854C66E@rustyiron.com>

My guess would be about 1905.  If you send Geoff Challinor twenty  
quid, he'll have Margaret look it up in the book for you.

	
Rob Skinner
Antique Stationary Engines
La Habra, California

rob at rustyiron.com
www.rustyiron.com





On Jan 10, 2010, at 5:02 PM, BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote:

> I have just bought a Crossley Type M engine with serial number    
> 55302.
> Can any of you SEL members tell me when it was built and a little   
> history on
> the engine.



From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Mon Jan 11 19:06:47 2010
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:06:47 -0500
Subject: [SEL] A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?
Message-ID: <028a01ca9334$4792dcb0$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>

Well, I found another big engine to save!  

http://news.webshots.com/album/550717992EAkmQg

Donation of the engine is about 90% certain.  18' flywheel, approx. 100 ton total engine weight.  Its a little guy compared to the Tod.  Looking for volunteers for a second "Wrecking Crew".    Engine is located in Steubenville, OH and removal would begin in the spring.  It will be hauled to Youngstown and reassembled behind the Tod Engine, where it will forever be known as the "little engine"!

The engine was built approx. 1902 by Mesta Machine in Homestead, PA to drive a generator to provide the DC power for the Labelle Iron Works, later Wheeling Pittsburgh Steel.  Its probably been out of service for fifty years.  I discovered it in 2006 on a plant tour.  Imagine my surprise when I walked into the building to see a big flywheel looking back at me! 

Need help!  Arnie, Dave, can I sign you on as consultants?  We'll get some younger guys to wield the wrenches.

Rick Rowlands
Tod Engine Heritage Park
Youngstown, OH

From fero_ah at city-net.com  Mon Jan 11 20:46:33 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:46:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?
In-Reply-To: <028a01ca9334$4792dcb0$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>
References: <028a01ca9334$4792dcb0$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>
Message-ID: <102f78076141ad6b946438b6ae0102be.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Damn Rick, when you add another engine to your collection, you might consider a
little one; maybe 1-1/2 hp?  8-))

NICE find!!  Here's hoping that you secure  the donation!!

See ya,  Arnie

On Mon, January 11, 2010 10:06 pm, Rick Rowlands wrote:
> Well, I found another big engine to save!
>
> http://news.webshots.com/album/550717992EAkmQg
>
> Donation of the engine is about 90% certain.  18' flywheel, approx. 100 ton total
> engine weight.  Its a little guy compared to the Tod.  Looking for volunteers for a
> second "Wrecking Crew".    Engine is located in Steubenville, OH and removal would
> begin in the spring.





From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Mon Jan 11 21:20:06 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:20:06 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Crossley Engine
In-Reply-To: <cf6.6b947f44.387bd289@aol.com>
Message-ID: <C77251B6.383D%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

Hi Kevin,
There was a Crossley M at the Sydney Rally in 2005. Some pics at:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc052.html



Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 12 00:42:17 2010
From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:42:17 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Crossley Engine
In-Reply-To: <cf6.6b947f44.387bd289@aol.com>
References: <cf6.6b947f44.387bd289@aol.com>
Message-ID: <SNT107-W13CE943BE5F0524BE82161D06C0@phx.gbl>


Kevin,I have an M No 45944 and it left the factory on 13-6-02.  So 1905-06 would be about right. But as Rob said Geoff is your man.  John
 
> From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com
> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 20:02:01 -0500
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] Crossley Engine
> 
> I have just bought a Crossley Type M engine with serial number 55302. 
> Can any of you SEL members tell me when it was built and a little history on 
> the engine. 
> Thank You
> Kevin K 
> 
> BIGFLYWHEEL at AOL.COM
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From peterwoodmore at aol.com  Tue Jan 12 02:39:35 2010
From: peterwoodmore at aol.com (peterwoodmore at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 05:39:35 EST
Subject: [SEL] Crossley Engine
Message-ID: <730.569284c3.387dab67@aol.com>

Kevin 
according to my list of numbers I would date it in 1907

Peter Woodmore. 
NSW Australia


From jerrye at databak.co.za  Tue Jan 12 10:33:25 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:33:25 +0200
Subject: [SEL]  A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1263315602.12155.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za>

At 07:00 PM 12/01/2010, you wrote:
>Message: 3
>Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:06:47 -0500
>From: "Rick Rowlands" <rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com>
>Subject: [SEL] A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?
>To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Message-ID: <028a01ca9334$4792dcb0$6401a8c0 at PC179134136174>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Well, I found another big engine to save!

<snip>

>Need help!  Arnie, Dave, can I sign you on as consultants?  We'll get some 
>younger guys to wield the wenches.
>
>Rick Rowlands

Hi Rick,
         Well done on the acquisition but don't you think that Dave and 
Arnie deserve to get to "wield the wenches" - why give the best job to some 
young 'uns.

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>
P.S. This is a Dave type joke :-) 



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Jan 12 11:12:17 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:12:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za>
Message-ID: <bd78a709f6bdce4b89cd712df8e2f2b9.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Jerry,

On Tue, January 12, 2010 1:33 pm, Jerry Evans wrote:
>>Need help!  Arnie, Dave, can I sign you on as consultants?  We'll get some
>>younger guys to wield the wenches.
>>
>          Well done on the acquisition but don't you think that Dave and
> Arnie deserve to get to "wield the wenches" - why give the best job to some
> young 'uns.

Rick knows what he's doing.  Dave and I will do a good job from the lawn chairs with
a cooler of beer between us offering the Wrecking Crew sage advice through a
bullhorn like "Righty tighty - lefty loosy."  Ya just can't have too much of that
sage advice.  8-))  Besides, someone needs to be Fire Watch when they're using the
rosebuds on the dogbones and flame cutting the foundation bolts.

See ya,  Arnie




From kosh at ncweb.com  Tue Jan 12 11:42:26 2010
From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:42:26 -0500
Subject: [SEL] A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?
In-Reply-To: <bd78a709f6bdce4b89cd712df8e2f2b9.squirrel@webmail.city-net .com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za>
	<5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20100112144113.0c7dda10@ncweb.com>

Can somebody post the original message?

I'm only getting the replies, guess the original poster is blacklisted.

Dave Merchant


At 02:12 PM 1/12/2010, you wrote:
>Hi Jerry,
>
>On Tue, January 12, 2010 1:33 pm, Jerry Evans wrote:
> >>Need help!  Arnie, Dave, can I sign you on as consultants?  We'll get some
> >>younger guys to wield the wenches.
> >>
> >          Well done on the acquisition but don't you think that Dave and
> > Arnie deserve to get to "wield the wenches" - why give the best job to some
> > young 'uns.
>
>Rick knows what he's doing.  Dave and I will do a good job from the lawn 
>chairs with
>a cooler of beer between us offering the Wrecking Crew sage advice through a
>bullhorn like "Righty tighty - lefty loosy."  Ya just can't have too much 
>of that
>sage advice.  8-))  Besides, someone needs to be Fire Watch when they're 
>using the
>rosebuds on the dogbones and flame cutting the foundation bolts.
>
>See ya,  Arnie
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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Dave Merchant
kosh at nesys.com
nesys_com at ameritech.net
dmerchant at layerzero.com

http://www.nesys.com
http://www.nesys.org
YouTube: SteamCrane

"I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps
to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards)
and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline."
         - Prof. Phil Jones
         - Director, Climatic Research Unit
         - School of Environmental Sciences
         - University of East Anglia
         - Norwich, UK
         - To: Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley, Malcolm Hughes



From james.kangas at timken.com  Tue Jan 12 12:51:04 2010
From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:51:04 -0500
Subject: [SEL] A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za><5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za>
	<5.2.0.9.0.20100112144113.0c7dda10@ncweb.com>
Message-ID: <BFC5A3B5B97887468E3B3215DF9A687903D70879@CTNHEXBE03.corp.timken.com>

Well, I found another big engine to save! 

http://news.webshots.com/album/550717992EAkmQg <https://www.owa.tasp.inside.tkr/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://news.webshots.com/album/550717992EAkmQg> 

Donation of the engine is about 90% certain.  18' flywheel, approx. 100 ton total engine weight.  Its a little guy compared to the Tod.  Looking for volunteers for a second "Wrecking Crew".    Engine is located in Steubenville, OH and removal would begin in the spring.  It will be hauled to Youngstown and reassembled behind the Tod Engine, where it will forever be known as the "little engine"!

The engine was built approx. 1902 by Mesta Machine in Homestead, PA to drive a generator to provide the DC power for the Labelle Iron Works, later Wheeling Pittsburgh Steel.  Its probably been out of service for fifty years.  I discovered it in 2006 on a plant tour.  Imagine my surprise when I walked into the building to see a big flywheel looking back at me!

Need help!  Arnie, Dave, can I sign you on as consultants?  We'll get some younger guys to wield the wrenches.

Rick Rowlands
Tod Engine Heritage Park
Youngstown, OH

Here's the orginal post.
   Jim K.

________________________________

From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of Dave Merchant
Sent: Tue 1/12/2010 2:42 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?



Can somebody post the original message?

I'm only getting the replies, guess the original poster is blacklisted.

Dave Merchant


At 02:12 PM 1/12/2010, you wrote:
>Hi Jerry,
>
>On Tue, January 12, 2010 1:33 pm, Jerry Evans wrote:
> >>Need help!  Arnie, Dave, can I sign you on as consultants?  We'll get some
> >>younger guys to wield the wenches.
> >>
> >          Well done on the acquisition but don't you think that Dave and
> > Arnie deserve to get to "wield the wenches" - why give the best job to some
> > young 'uns.
>
>Rick knows what he's doing.  Dave and I will do a good job from the lawn
>chairs with
>a cooler of beer between us offering the Wrecking Crew sage advice through a
>bullhorn like "Righty tighty - lefty loosy."  Ya just can't have too much
>of that
>sage advice.  8-))  Besides, someone needs to be Fire Watch when they're
>using the
>rosebuds on the dogbones and flame cutting the foundation bolts.
>
>See ya,  Arnie
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SEL mailing list
>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel

Dave Merchant
kosh at nesys.com
nesys_com at ameritech.net
dmerchant at layerzero.com

http://www.nesys.com <http://www.nesys.com/> 
http://www.nesys.org <http://www.nesys.org/> 
YouTube: SteamCrane

"I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps
to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards)
and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline."
         - Prof. Phil Jones
         - Director, Climatic Research Unit
         - School of Environmental Sciences
         - University of East Anglia
         - Norwich, UK
         - To: Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley, Malcolm Hughes

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From bigflywheel at aol.com  Tue Jan 12 12:53:29 2010
From: bigflywheel at aol.com (bigflywheel at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:53:29 EST
Subject: [SEL] Crossley Engine
Message-ID: <1083b.135d4528.387e3b49@aol.com>

I would like to get the date and shipping information if some one has it on 
 this engine.
Thanks 
Kevin K 
 
BIGFLYWHEEL at AOL.COM
 
 
In a message dated 1/12/2010 5:46:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
peterwoodmore at aol.com writes:

Kevin  
according to my list of numbers I would date it in 1907

Peter  Woodmore. 
NSW  Australia
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From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Tue Jan 12 13:11:16 2010
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:11:16 -0500
Subject: [SEL] A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za><5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za>
	<5.2.0.9.0.20100112144113.0c7dda10@ncweb.com>
Message-ID: <042801ca93cb$c7b85130$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>

I've been blacklisted!  Usually i'm only blacklisted by liberals!

Rick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Merchant" <kosh at ncweb.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?


> Can somebody post the original message?
>
> I'm only getting the replies, guess the original poster is blacklisted.
>
> Dave Merchant
>
>
> At 02:12 PM 1/12/2010, you wrote:
>>Hi Jerry,
>>
>>On Tue, January 12, 2010 1:33 pm, Jerry Evans wrote:
>> >>Need help!  Arnie, Dave, can I sign you on as consultants?  We'll get 
>> >>some
>> >>younger guys to wield the wenches.
>> >>
>> >          Well done on the acquisition but don't you think that Dave and
>> > Arnie deserve to get to "wield the wenches" - why give the best job to 
>> > some
>> > young 'uns.
>>
>>Rick knows what he's doing.  Dave and I will do a good job from the lawn
>>chairs with
>>a cooler of beer between us offering the Wrecking Crew sage advice through 
>>a
>>bullhorn like "Righty tighty - lefty loosy."  Ya just can't have too much
>>of that
>>sage advice.  8-))  Besides, someone needs to be Fire Watch when they're
>>using the
>>rosebuds on the dogbones and flame cutting the foundation bolts.
>>
>>See ya,  Arnie
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>SEL mailing list
>>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> Dave Merchant
> kosh at nesys.com
> nesys_com at ameritech.net
> dmerchant at layerzero.com
>
> http://www.nesys.com
> http://www.nesys.org
> YouTube: SteamCrane
>
> "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps
> to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards)
> and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline."
>         - Prof. Phil Jones
>         - Director, Climatic Research Unit
>         - School of Environmental Sciences
>         - University of East Anglia
>         - Norwich, UK
>         - To: Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley, Malcolm Hughes
>
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From bigflywheel at aol.com  Tue Jan 12 13:31:59 2010
From: bigflywheel at aol.com (bigflywheel at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:31:59 EST
Subject: [SEL] Oliver Chilled Plow Works cast iron seat
Message-ID: <11c43.40c2412b.387e444f@aol.com>

You tractor boy might want to look at this on Ebay. Oliver Chilled Plow  
Works cast iron seat. I will ship over seas.    Ebay item  #    220539206044
 
Kevin K 
 
_BIGFLYWHEEL at AOL.COM_ (mailto:BIGFLYWHEEL at AOL.COM) 


From marinesurveys at msn.com  Tue Jan 12 14:53:07 2010
From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:53:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tongue in cheek mechanical education
In-Reply-To: <46120880E65E4417BE3A13D30B502AFA@zen>
References: <46120880E65E4417BE3A13D30B502AFA@zen>
Message-ID: <COL106-W50808FDE00C5C44B8A2040B46C0@phx.gbl>


Dave the Turbo-Encabulator was great.

 

On another subject any of you guys looking for bearing scrapers

for Babbit { Poured } bearings look at the item 250558999888

on E-Bay it's a lot of 23 scrapers up for grabs.

 

                B, Rgds


        Franklin S. Skinner 
    Marine Surveyor & Consultant 
3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 
       34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West 
PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470



 
> From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com
> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> CC: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
> Subject: Tongue in cheek mechanical education
> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:06:49 +0000
> 
> The Turbo-Encabulator
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXW0bx_Ooq4
> For these cold days. 8^)
> Dave Croft
> Warrington
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/
> http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv
> 
> To UN-subscribe, send a message to:
> 
> stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org
> with:
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From marinesurveys at msn.com  Tue Jan 12 14:56:46 2010
From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:56:46 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Oliver Chilled Plow Works cast iron seat
In-Reply-To: <11c43.40c2412b.387e444f@aol.com>
References: <11c43.40c2412b.387e444f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <COL106-W46E6207D5B48D293F8CAD7B46C0@phx.gbl>


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, <<<<<<<, ponders could this be fatg butt cooler ;-}

        Franklin S. Skinner 
    Marine Surveyor & Consultant 
3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 
       34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West 
PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470



 
> From: bigflywheel at aol.com
> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:31:59 -0500
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: [SEL] Oliver Chilled Plow Works cast iron seat
> 
> You tractor boy might want to look at this on Ebay. Oliver Chilled Plow 
> Works cast iron seat. I will ship over seas. Ebay item # 220539206044
> 
> Kevin K 
> 
> _BIGFLYWHEEL at AOL.COM_ (mailto:BIGFLYWHEEL at AOL.COM) 
> _______________________________________________
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From bigflywheel at aol.com  Tue Jan 12 15:13:41 2010
From: bigflywheel at aol.com (bigflywheel at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:13:41 EST
Subject: [SEL] Crossley Engine
Message-ID: <14e73.4489b506.387e5c25@aol.com>

Rob you have email or contact for Geoff C 
KK
 
 
In a message dated 1/11/2010 6:47:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
rob at rustyiron.com writes:

My guess  would be about 1905.  If you send Geoff Challinor twenty  
quid,  he'll have Margaret look it up in the book for you.


Rob Skinner
Antique Stationary Engines
La Habra,  California

rob at rustyiron.com
www.rustyiron.com





On  Jan 10, 2010, at 5:02 PM, BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote:

> I have just  bought a Crossley Type M engine with serial number    
>  55302.
> Can any of you SEL members tell me when it was built and a  little   
> history on
> the  engine.

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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Tue Jan 12 16:19:53 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:19:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Crossley Engine
In-Reply-To: <14e73.4489b506.387e5c25@aol.com>
References: <14e73.4489b506.387e5c25@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8ce917d05dfad95b636fa89f1d209789.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

geoff at enginemuseum.org

On Tue, January 12, 2010 6:13 pm, bigflywheel at aol.com wrote:
> Rob you have email or contact for Geoff C
> KK
>
>
> In a message dated 1/11/2010 6:47:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> rob at rustyiron.com writes:
>
> My guess  would be about 1905.  If you send Geoff Challinor twenty
> quid,  he'll have Margaret look it up in the book for you.
>
>
> Rob Skinner
> Antique Stationary Engines
> La Habra,  California
>
> rob at rustyiron.com
> www.rustyiron.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On  Jan 10, 2010, at 5:02 PM, BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote:
>
>> I have just  bought a Crossley Type M engine with serial number
>>  55302.
>> Can any of you SEL members tell me when it was built and a  little
>> history on
>> the  engine.
>
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From bigflywheel at aol.com  Tue Jan 12 17:15:44 2010
From: bigflywheel at aol.com (bigflywheel at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:15:44 EST
Subject: [SEL] Crossley Engine
Message-ID: <1890f.5c15b15b.387e78c0@aol.com>

Thank You
KK
 
 
In a message dated 1/12/2010 7:19:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
fero_ah at city-net.com writes:

geoff at enginemuseum.org

On Tue, January 12, 2010 6:13 pm,  bigflywheel at aol.com wrote:
> Rob you have email or contact for Geoff  C
> KK
>
>
> In a message dated 1/11/2010 6:47:09 P.M.  Eastern Standard Time,
> rob at rustyiron.com writes:
>
> My  guess  would be about 1905.  If you send Geoff Challinor  twenty
> quid,  he'll have Margaret look it up in the book for  you.
>
>
> Rob Skinner
> Antique Stationary  Engines
> La Habra,  California
>
>  rob at rustyiron.com
>  www.rustyiron.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On  Jan  10, 2010, at 5:02 PM, BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote:
>
>> I have  just  bought a Crossley Type M engine with serial  number
>>  55302.
>> Can any of you SEL members tell me  when it was built and a  little
>> history on
>>  the  engine.
>
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From jerrye at databak.co.za  Wed Jan 13 10:42:41 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:42:41 +0200
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 70, Issue 11
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1263402002.30925.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100113204125.028bbc08@mail.atech.co.za>

At 07:00 PM 13/01/2010, you wrote:
>Message: 2
>Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:12:17 -0500 (EST)
>From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] A Repeat of the Tod Engine Project?
>
>
>Hi Jerry,
>
>On Tue, January 12, 2010 1:33 pm, Jerry Evans wrote:
> >>Need help!  Arnie, Dave, can I sign you on as consultants?  We'll get some
> >>younger guys to wield the wenches.
> >>
> >          Well done on the acquisition but don't you think that Dave and
> > Arnie deserve to get to "wield the wenches" - why give the best job to some
> > young 'uns.
>
>Rick knows what he's doing.  Dave and I will do a good job from the lawn 
>chairs with
>a cooler of beer between us offering the Wrecking Crew sage advice through a
>bullhorn like "Righty tighty - lefty loosy."  Ya just can't have too much 
>of that
>sage advice.  8-))  Besides, someone needs to be Fire Watch when they're 
>using the
>rosebuds on the dogbones and flame cutting the foundation bolts.
>
>See ya,  Arnie


Hi Arnie,
         I guess you did'nt notice that I removed the "r" from wrenches ?? :-)
Jerry




From mls543 at ntelos.net  Sun Jan 17 07:36:17 2010
From: mls543 at ntelos.net (Mark Shattuck)
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:36:17 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <4B532E71.2060209@ntelos.net>

Server Went Down Bounced  All Mail . Checking out new settings Thanks .


                                                                           Mark L Shattuck
                                                                           Waynesboro Va.


From germoamer at aol.com  Sun Jan 17 08:37:52 2010
From: germoamer at aol.com (germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 11:37:52 EST
Subject: [SEL] Test
Message-ID: <17007.23f38bdd.388496e0@aol.com>

Test OK  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Sun Jan 17 19:36:39 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:36:39 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Still here and working on engines
Message-ID: <C77A2277.3935%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

I was a little late for the new year crank up but I have been getting a few
jobs done on the engines at home (when I have not been painting the house).
The model Eclipse was first. I pulled it out of its hidey hole a couple of
days after new year. It had not been run for a while so it needed a little
TLC to get it back up to scratch. It is now cleaned up and running like a
clock.
The next job was to fix up old no.1 engine: the F-M Eclipse. The governor
had been playing up at the Young rally so it did some repairs and another
slight modification and it is running a lot better. It is an early model so
the govenor detent is different to the later ones and not as positive in its
action. I can see why it was changed.
Yesterday I dug out the 2nd 1hp R&V and got it running as well. It is still
not running as well as my other 1hp but a little more work will sort it out!

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From rotigel at me.com  Wed Jan 20 01:13:28 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:13:28 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za>
Message-ID: <B938B612-BC61-45E9-8FDF-B4C20C1DCD73@me.com>

60 - 1 = 59! There will be even less in the near future!!!!!
	Dave



From rob at rustyiron.com  Tue Jan 19 22:32:59 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:32:59 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
In-Reply-To: <B938B612-BC61-45E9-8FDF-B4C20C1DCD73@me.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za>
	<B938B612-BC61-45E9-8FDF-B4C20C1DCD73@me.com>
Message-ID: <D0118BAB-196D-4B36-965D-A715CB360F18@rustyiron.com>

On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:13 AM, David Rotigel wrote:

> 60 - 1 = 59! There will be even less in the near future!!!!!
> 	Dave


Fewer.

















From clemsweller at etczone.com  Wed Jan 20 02:30:33 2010
From: clemsweller at etczone.com (Chuck Emsweller)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:30:33 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <B938B612-BC61-45E9-8FDF-B4C20C1DCD73@me.com>
Message-ID: <201001200530495.SM375120@ChuckDesktopPC>

The people of Mass. have sent a strong message with this one!  Just a shame
the rest of us can't do the same until this fall.

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:13 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!

60 - 1 = 59! There will be even less in the near future!!!!!
	Dave

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From marinesurveys at msn.com  Wed Jan 20 02:44:09 2010
From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:44:09 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <201001200530495.SM375120@ChuckDesktopPC>
References: <B938B612-BC61-45E9-8FDF-B4C20C1DCD73@me.com>,
	<201001200530495.SM375120@ChuckDesktopPC>
Message-ID: <COL106-W1570E3B4EA1CB6C85C3C7BB4640@phx.gbl>


Chuck;

Thats a fact !!!!

        Franklin S. Skinner 
    Marine Surveyor & Consultant 
3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 
       34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West 
PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470



 
> From: clemsweller at etczone.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:30:33 -0500
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
> 
> The people of Mass. have sent a strong message with this one! Just a shame
> the rest of us can't do the same until this fall.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:13 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
> 
> 60 - 1 = 59! There will be even less in the near future!!!!!
> Dave
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
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From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Wed Jan 20 03:44:34 2010
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:44:34 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100112202927.033dabb0@mail.atech.co.za>
	<B938B612-BC61-45E9-8FDF-B4C20C1DCD73@me.com>
Message-ID: <056f01ca99c5$f06bbcc0$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>

Barack and the Dems will be singing this today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCXycgAUNWI

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:13 AM
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!


> 60 - 1 = 59! There will be even less in the near future!!!!!
> Dave
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>


From edurand at mchsi.com  Wed Jan 20 06:42:03 2010
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:42:03 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
In-Reply-To: <B938B612-BC61-45E9-8FDF-B4C20C1DCD73@me.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOEBCIKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Dave:

I do believe the folks spoke!  More to come.

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of David
> Rotigel
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 03:13 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
> 
> 
> 60 - 1 = 59! There will be even less in the near 
> future!!!!!
> 	Dave




From rotigel at me.com  Wed Jan 20 13:21:11 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:21:11 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOEBCIKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
References: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOEBCIKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <9E30E077-46CD-40F3-A4F4-A386B4706E36@me.com>


On Jan 20, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Elden DuRand wrote:
> Dave:
> I do believe the folks spoke!  More to come.
> Take care - Elden

Elden, This one was for Mary Jo!
	Dave


From kimmell at verizon.net  Wed Jan 20 10:29:22 2010
From: kimmell at verizon.net (kimmell at verizon.net)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:29:22 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
Message-ID: <907401564-1264012246-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-849372676-@bda835.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Right on!
Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect



From edurand at mchsi.com  Wed Jan 20 14:53:00 2010
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:53:00 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
In-Reply-To: <9E30E077-46CD-40F3-A4F4-A386B4706E36@me.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBOEBGIKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Dave:

I never thought about it exactly like that but it is apropos and LONG overdue.

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of David
> Rotigel
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 03:21 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 20, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Elden DuRand wrote:
> > Dave:
> > I do believe the folks spoke!  More to come.
> > Take care - Elden
> 
> Elden, This one was for Mary Jo!
> 	Dave




From germoamer at aol.com  Wed Jan 20 14:31:10 2010
From: germoamer at aol.com (germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:31:10 EST
Subject: [SEL] shootings OT
Message-ID: <144ca.51c7a849.3888de2e@aol.com>

In case any of you watch the national news, a man killed 8 including 3 high 
 school kids yesterday, and had bombs set in his woods.  Also shot a state  
trooper helicopter down. He walked out of his woods and turned himself in  
just after daylight this morning after spending the  night there. It is in 
Appomattox, Virginia where I live.  It  is a very small town and a real 
tragedy.  The man must have gone completely  off his rocker.  So far I do not 
know anybody personally.   

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Wed Jan 20 14:44:25 2010
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:44:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] shootings OT
References: <144ca.51c7a849.3888de2e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <065801ca9a22$1dcc1500$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>

Unless it happened in Haiti we won't see it on the news around here.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <germoamer at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:31 PM
Subject: [SEL] shootings OT


> In case any of you watch the national news, a man killed 8 including 3 
> high
> school kids yesterday, and had bombs set in his woods.  Also shot a state
> trooper helicopter down. He walked out of his woods and turned himself in
> just after daylight this morning after spending the  night there. It is in
> Appomattox, Virginia where I live.  It  is a very small town and a real
> tragedy.  The man must have gone completely  off his rocker.  So far I do 
> not
> know anybody personally.
>
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord,  Va.
> germoamer at AOL.com
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From falcon at telenet.net  Wed Jan 20 17:25:42 2010
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:25:42 -0500
Subject: [SEL] shootings OT
In-Reply-To: <144ca.51c7a849.3888de2e@aol.com>
References: <144ca.51c7a849.3888de2e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4B57AD16.1090901@telenet.net>

germoamer at aol.com wrote:
> In case any of you watch the national news, a man killed 8 including 3 high 
>  school kids yesterday, and had bombs set in his woods.  Also shot a state  
> trooper helicopter down. He walked out of his woods and turned himself in  
> just after daylight this morning after spending the  night there. It is in 
> Appomattox, Virginia where I live.  It  is a very small town and a real 
> tragedy.  The man must have gone completely  off his rocker.  So far I do not 
> know anybody personally.   
> 
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord,  Va.
> germoamer at AOL.com
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 
> 

Good thing you don't know anyone.

Bad thing is that they let him give up. Should have shot him down as he
stepped out...

-- 
Steve W.



From solarrog at pacbell.net  Wed Jan 20 17:37:52 2010
From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:37:52 -0800
Subject: [SEL] shootings OT
In-Reply-To: <4B57AD16.1090901@telenet.net>
References: <144ca.51c7a849.3888de2e@aol.com> <4B57AD16.1090901@telenet.net>
Message-ID: <38527866A2894E6D9D4E1D2DD888701C@RogerDiRusciPC>

Now they will psychoanalyze him to see if he was a bed wetter, If his mommy 
abused him, or if he was an engine collector. It will take 15 years and 
millions of dollars to take him out of the gene pool

Roger DiRuscio 510-226-2414 office
R.E. Realty Experts of Fremont, Ca. # 414413
Broker Associate # 615513
sales since 1977 ham call KG6QKZ
510-676-3122 cell
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] shootings OT


> germoamer at aol.com wrote:
>> In case any of you watch the national news, a man killed 8 including 3 
>> high
>>  school kids yesterday, and had bombs set in his woods.  Also shot a 
>> state
>> trooper helicopter down. He walked out of his woods and turned himself in
>> just after daylight this morning after spending the  night there. It is 
>> in
>> Appomattox, Virginia where I live.  It  is a very small town and a real
>> tragedy.  The man must have gone completely  off his rocker.  So far I do 
>> not
>> know anybody personally.
>>
>> Tom  Schmutz
>> Concord,  Va.
>> germoamer at AOL.com
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>>
>
> Good thing you don't know anyone.
>
> Bad thing is that they let him give up. Should have shot him down as he
> stepped out...
>
> -- 
> Steve W.
>
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From riga_fire at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 20 18:31:51 2010
From: riga_fire at yahoo.com (Paul Russell)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:31:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] shootings OT
In-Reply-To: <144ca.51c7a849.3888de2e@aol.com>
References: <144ca.51c7a849.3888de2e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <665103.27134.qm@web31814.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://www.lawofficer.com/news-and-articles/news/2010/01/virginia_gunman_surrenders_to_police.html

Link to some info on it if interested.




________________________________
From: "germoamer at aol.com" <germoamer at aol.com>
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 5:31:10 PM
Subject: [SEL] shootings OT

In case any of you watch the national news, a man killed 8 including 3 high 
school kids yesterday, and had bombs set in his woods.? Also shot a state? 
trooper helicopter down. He walked out of his woods and turned himself in? 
just after daylight this morning after spending the? night there. It is in 
Appomattox, Virginia where I live.? It? is a very small town and a real 
tragedy.? The man must have gone completely? off his rocker.? So far I do not 
know anybody personally.? 

Tom? Schmutz
Concord,? Va.
germoamer at AOL.com
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From jbcast at charter.net  Wed Jan 20 19:11:42 2010
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:11:42 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Port Wing, WI
Message-ID: <20100120221142.80MJC.2500108.root@mp13>

Any list members near Port Wing, WI?
J.B. Castagnos
Belle Rose, LA


From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 21 03:15:31 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 03:15:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
In-Reply-To: <056f01ca99c5$f06bbcc0$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>
Message-ID: <241067.71393.qm@web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks, Rick.
I think this one fits too.
big time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZNGPRX_W88&feature=related
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Wed, 1/20/10, Rick Rowlands <rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com> wrote:


From: Rick Rowlands <rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 6:44 AM


Barack and the Dems will be singing this today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCXycgAUNWI

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:13 AM
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE!


> 60 - 1 = 59! There will be even less in the near future!!!!!
> Dave
> 
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Thu Jan 21 11:53:17 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:53:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <201001200530495.SM375120@ChuckDesktopPC>
References: <201001200530495.SM375120@ChuckDesktopPC>
Message-ID: <9341fcc25303cba1a1a5dbafc6b3dbfa.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Why not?  All the US Reps and 1/3 of the Senate are up for election.
Throw the bums out!!

On Wed, January 20, 2010 5:30 am, Chuck Emsweller wrote:
> The people of Mass. have sent a strong message with this one!  Just a shame
> the rest of us can't do the same until this fall.




From clemsweller at etczone.com  Thu Jan 21 17:08:01 2010
From: clemsweller at etczone.com (Chuck Emsweller)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:08:01 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <9341fcc25303cba1a1a5dbafc6b3dbfa.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>

I fully agree with you on throwing them out!  Just have to wait until
election day for it to happen.  They aint like rabbits or quail and have an
open season

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:53 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT

Why not?  All the US Reps and 1/3 of the Senate are up for election.
Throw the bums out!!

On Wed, January 20, 2010 5:30 am, Chuck Emsweller wrote:
> The people of Mass. have sent a strong message with this one!  Just a
shame
> the rest of us can't do the same until this fall.


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From rotigel at me.com  Thu Jan 21 22:04:11 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:04:11 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>
Message-ID: <C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>

Hi Chuck, Would this take a constitutional amendment, or do you think  
it's a state by state decision?
	Dave

On Jan 21, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Chuck Emsweller wrote:

>   They aint like rabbits or quail and have an
> open season
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie  
> Fero
> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:53 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
>
> Why not?  All the US Reps and 1/3 of the Senate are up for election.
> Throw the bums out!!
>
> On Wed, January 20, 2010 5:30 am, Chuck Emsweller wrote:
>> The people of Mass. have sent a strong message with this one!  Just a
> shame
>> the rest of us can't do the same until this fall.


From clemsweller at etczone.com  Thu Jan 21 19:57:58 2010
From: clemsweller at etczone.com (Chuck Emsweller)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:57:58 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
Message-ID: <201001212258153.SM33903@ChuckDesktopPC>

State by state would probably be the quickest, but the surest would be
through constitutional amendment

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 1:04 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT

Hi Chuck, Would this take a constitutional amendment, or do you think  
it's a state by state decision?
	Dave

On Jan 21, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Chuck Emsweller wrote:

>   They aint like rabbits or quail and have an
> open season
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie  
> Fero
> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:53 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
>
> Why not?  All the US Reps and 1/3 of the Senate are up for election.
> Throw the bums out!!
>
> On Wed, January 20, 2010 5:30 am, Chuck Emsweller wrote:
>> The people of Mass. have sent a strong message with this one!  Just a
> shame
>> the rest of us can't do the same until this fall.
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From kosh at ncweb.com  Thu Jan 21 20:38:28 2010
From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:38:28 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>
	<201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20100121233423.0b7181d0@ncweb.com>

State by state;;;

http://www.ehow.com/how_2096900_recall-us-senator.html

In many ways, the desired effect has already been achieved.
Any Dem legislator that wants to keep their seat past November
is going to be very cautious.

The anthill has been kicked over pretty good.

Dave Merchant


At 01:04 AM 1/22/2010, you wrote:
>Hi Chuck, Would this take a constitutional amendment, or do you think
>it's a state by state decision?
>         Dave
>
>On Jan 21, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Chuck Emsweller wrote:
>
> >   They aint like rabbits or quail and have an
> > open season
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie
> > Fero
> > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:53 PM
> > To: The SEL email discussion list
> > Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
> >
> > Why not?  All the US Reps and 1/3 of the Senate are up for election.
> > Throw the bums out!!
> >
> > On Wed, January 20, 2010 5:30 am, Chuck Emsweller wrote:
> >> The people of Mass. have sent a strong message with this one!  Just a
> > shame
> >> the rest of us can't do the same until this fall.
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         - School of Environmental Sciences
         - University of East Anglia
         - Norwich, UK
         - To: Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley, Malcolm Hughes



From nadejack at optusnet.com.au  Thu Jan 21 20:57:36 2010
From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:57:36 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>
	<C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
Message-ID: <4B593040.2070002@optusnet.com.au>

Look as if this site has been hijacked by spammers.
It ain't what it uster be.
Time to unsubscribe, methinks

JW?


From rotigel at me.com  Fri Jan 22 00:46:24 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:46:24 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <201001212258153.SM33903@ChuckDesktopPC>
References: <201001212258153.SM33903@ChuckDesktopPC>
Message-ID: <02D50B31-BAE9-41F1-9F7A-8011A32A4B03@me.com>

But Chuck, State by state sinply maked possible individual effort for  
people hunting rabbits and quail. That could get the replacement  
process working LONG before the fall!
	Dave

On Jan 21, 2010, at 7:57 PM, Chuck Emsweller wrote:

> State by state would probably be the quickest, but the surest would be
> through constitutional amendment
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David  
> Rotigel
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 1:04 AM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
>
> Hi Chuck, Would this take a constitutional amendment, or do you think
> it's a state by state decision?
> 	Dave
>
> On Jan 21, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Chuck Emsweller wrote:
>
>>  They aint like rabbits or quail and have an
>> open season
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie
>> Fero
>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:53 PM
>> To: The SEL email discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
>>
>> Why not?  All the US Reps and 1/3 of the Senate are up for election.
>> Throw the bums out!!
>>
>> On Wed, January 20, 2010 5:30 am, Chuck Emsweller wrote:
>>> The people of Mass. have sent a strong message with this one!   
>>> Just a
>> shame
>>> the rest of us can't do the same until this fall.
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
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>
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From frappi at wcoil.com  Thu Jan 21 22:27:49 2010
From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:27:49 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <4B593040.2070002@optusnet.com.au>
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>
	<C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
	<4B593040.2070002@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <20100122062736.89B7092FF@smtp.wcoil.com>


BY


At 11:57 PM 1/21/2010, you wrote:
>Look as if this site has been hijacked by spammers.
>It ain't what it uster be.
>Time to unsubscribe, methinks
>
>JW?
>Jack <nadejack at optusnet.com.au>

Mark & Christine Shulaw
Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601
USA
419.358.5206





From rotigel at me.com  Fri Jan 22 01:46:26 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:46:26 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <4B593040.2070002@optusnet.com.au>
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>
	<C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
	<4B593040.2070002@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <F8F133FC-3F42-4889-A26D-78C0FE5909CF@me.com>

Don't let the door hit you in the ass!
	Dave

On Jan 21, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Jack wrote:

> Look as if this site has been hijacked by spammers.
> It ain't what it uster be.
> Time to unsubscribe, methinks
>
> JW?
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Thu Jan 21 22:57:44 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:57:44 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <F8F133FC-3F42-4889-A26D-78C0FE5909CF@me.com>
Message-ID: <C77F9798.39FF%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

It is always nice to see the friendliness on the list.


On 22/1/10 8:46 PM, "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com> wrote:

> Don't let the door hit you in the ass!
> Dave


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Thu Jan 21 23:25:21 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg & Margaret Ingold)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:25:21 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
References: <C77F9798.39FF%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7EC493F4F49F4CAD9F4F091652910EB1@laptop>

It should have been on Slick. Dave should know better.
Reg & Marg Ingold (Ducking for cover)
Newcastle. NSW. Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT


> It is always nice to see the friendliness on the list.
> 
> 
> On 22/1/10 8:46 PM, "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Don't let the door hit you in the ass!
>> Dave
> 
> 
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
> 
> 
> 
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From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Fri Jan 22 03:40:28 2010
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 06:40:28 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC><C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
	<4B593040.2070002@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <083a01ca9b57$b2525280$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>

Internet has been around for 20 years and still people don't know how to use 
the delete button on their email programs.   oyoyoyoyoyoy

Rick


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack" <nadejack at optusnet.com.au>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT


Look as if this site has been hijacked by spammers.
It ain't what it uster be.
Time to unsubscribe, methinks

JW?
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Jan 22 05:33:48 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:33:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>
	<C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
Message-ID: <7b6151a7439e5ae126e32f85f1ebb6f3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

ROFLMAO!!!!  Man, I'll bet THAT exchange got the Obamanation Domestic Surveillance
email sensors clanging!

On Fri, January 22, 2010 1:04 am, David Rotigel wrote:
> Hi Chuck, Would this take a constitutional amendment, or do you think
> it's a state by state decision?
> 	Dave
>
> On Jan 21, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Chuck Emsweller wrote:
>
>>   They aint like rabbits or quail and have an
>> open season
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>>
>> Why not?  All the US Reps and 1/3 of the Senate are up for election.
>> Throw the bums out!!




From marinesurveys at msn.com  Fri Jan 22 05:49:50 2010
From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:49:50 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <7b6151a7439e5ae126e32f85f1ebb6f3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>,
	<C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>,
	<7b6151a7439e5ae126e32f85f1ebb6f3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <COL106-W19B5AE546B97577D597C36B4620@phx.gbl>


HMmmmmmmmmmm <<<<<<<< ponders , is tar & feather sill

in vogue ?  ;-}

        Franklin S. Skinner 
    Marine Surveyor & Consultant 
3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 
       34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West 
PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470



 
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:33:48 -0500
> From: fero_ah at city-net.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
> 
> ROFLMAO!!!! Man, I'll bet THAT exchange got the Obamanation Domestic Surveillance
> email sensors clanging!
> 
> On Fri, January 22, 2010 1:04 am, David Rotigel wrote:
> > Hi Chuck, Would this take a constitutional amendment, or do you think
> > it's a state by state decision?
> > Dave
> >
> > On Jan 21, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Chuck Emsweller wrote:
> >
> >> They aint like rabbits or quail and have an
> >> open season
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >>
> >> Why not? All the US Reps and 1/3 of the Senate are up for election.
> >> Throw the bums out!!
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Jan 22 06:36:57 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 09:36:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <4B593040.2070002@optusnet.com.au>
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Hi Jack (sic),

Glad to hear from you again.  How are YOUR engine projects going?
I'm currently working on refurbing an old cement mixer cart to go
under a HEAVY 4 hp Robertsonville.  Damn COLD in the unheated shed
though.  Or didn't you really want to talk about engines?

See ya,  Arnie

On Thu, January 21, 2010 11:57 pm, Jack wrote:
> Look as if this site has been hijacked by spammers.
> It ain't what it uster be.
> Time to unsubscribe, methinks
>
> JW?





From oldironnut at windstream.net  Fri Jan 22 06:52:01 2010
From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 09:52:01 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <c3c086de2bf6bbaa8600ac5eecf7735b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC>
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Message-ID: <108642C4-5881-4C3B-AF60-58881850C08A@windstream.net>

On Jan 22, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:

> Hi Jack (sic),
> 
> Glad to hear from you again.  How are YOUR engine projects going?
> I'm currently working on refurbing an old cement mixer cart to go
> under a HEAVY 4 hp Robertsonville.

Ya had me there for a split second... I thought the cart was for your Fero compressor!  So Mike R, I guess risking life and limb to recover that compressor is still in vane!

See ya',
Mike




From rotigel at me.com  Fri Jan 22 10:20:43 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:20:43 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <7EC493F4F49F4CAD9F4F091652910EB1@laptop>
References: <C77F9798.39FF%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
	<7EC493F4F49F4CAD9F4F091652910EB1@laptop>
Message-ID: <F9B65E58-FA5D-49EC-BD35-DA9EA14E3401@me.com>

MY BAD FOLKS. I Thought (took for granted that) it was on Slick. SORRY!
	Dave

On Jan 21, 2010, at 11:25 PM, Reg & Margaret Ingold wrote:

> It should have been on Slick. Dave should know better.
> Reg & Marg Ingold (Ducking for cover)
> Newcastle. NSW. Australia
> randmingold at hotkey.net.au
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
> To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 5:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
>
>
>> It is always nice to see the friendliness on the list.
>>
>>
>> On 22/1/10 8:46 PM, "David Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Don't let the door hit you in the ass!
>>> Dave
>>
>>
>> Patrick M Livingstone
>> Leichhardt NSW
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Fri Jan 22 07:37:19 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (mr at carolina.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:37:19 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <108642C4-5881-4C3B-AF60-58881850C08A@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <20100122153719.6XVDN.215075.root@cdptpa-web17-z01>

I suspect the Fero Compressor is just a heap of rust over in the corner of the garage.  They weren't very well made anyway and we never really suspected to see it assembled and running anyway.  But, there is always the Fero Compressor Registry we can look at!  BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!

---- Michael Tucker <oldironnut at windstream.net> wrote: 
> On Jan 22, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Arnie Fero wrote:
> 
> > Hi Jack (sic),
> > 
> > Glad to hear from you again.  How are YOUR engine projects going?
> > I'm currently working on refurbing an old cement mixer cart to go
> > under a HEAVY 4 hp Robertsonville.
> 
> Ya had me there for a split second... I thought the cart was for your Fero compressor!  So Mike R, I guess risking life and limb to recover that compressor is still in vane!
> 
> See ya',
> Mike
> 
> 
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From rotigel at me.com  Fri Jan 22 11:54:54 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:54:54 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Show
Message-ID: <3571D628-81D8-4B83-A939-7AE88E50D609@me.com>

Hi Gang, Who will be at the Zolfo show this year? I should get there  
on March 2nd. I'll be in the usual place--EX 6.
	Dave



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Fri Jan 22 09:50:07 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:50:07 +0200
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 70, Issue 17
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1264179602.28885.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100122194830.00c89b88@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 07:00 PM 22/01/2010, you wrote:
>Message: 19
>Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:54:54 -0800
>From: David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
>Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Show
>To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>Message-ID: <3571D628-81D8-4B83-A939-7AE88E50D609 at me.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
>Hi Gang, Who will be at the Zolfo show this year? I should get there
>on March 2nd. I'll be in the usual place--EX 6.
>         Dave

Oh Boy,
         An engine related post <very very big grin>.
         No Dave I'll not be there :-0
Jerry




From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 22 10:13:32 2010
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:13:32 -0500
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 70, Issue 17
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100122194830.00c89b88@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <mailman.3.1264179602.28885.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
Message-ID: <COL112-W19FF3DC6AD8EB8DEBB52AD95620@phx.gbl>


I won't be at Zolfo this year Dave, I'm saving up to go to Africa to watch the soccer match. Steve

 


 
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:50:07 +0200
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> From: jerrye at databak.co.za
> Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 70, Issue 17
> 
> At 07:00 PM 22/01/2010, you wrote:
> >Message: 19
> >Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:54:54 -0800
> >From: David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
> >Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Show
> >To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> >Message-ID: <3571D628-81D8-4B83-A939-7AE88E50D609 at me.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
> >
> >Hi Gang, Who will be at the Zolfo show this year? I should get there
> >on March 2nd. I'll be in the usual place--EX 6.
> > Dave
> 
> Oh Boy,
> An engine related post <very very big grin>.
> No Dave I'll not be there :-0
> Jerry
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From George_Best at adp.com  Fri Jan 22 10:16:08 2010
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:16:08 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Engines from France
In-Reply-To: <6999519A-5E6B-47B5-9A59-C8463854C66E@rustyiron.com>
References: <cf6.6b947f44.387bd289@aol.com>
	<6999519A-5E6B-47B5-9A59-C8463854C66E@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F348D859B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Just curious, any list members have engines in their collection that were made in France?
Or if you don't own a French engine do you know of any French engines in collections?

I currently have 3 French engines.

A Bernard air-cooled engine which is French, although not really a collector type engine.  So please limit responses to the flywheel type engines.

My other engines are a 1910 5hp vertical Ceres and a 1920's vertical 3hp(?) DUX.

I do know of a 3 or 4hp Japy in California.

I know of a questionable French sideshaft in Nebraska, but I say questionable as it had no tag.  The owner at that time had it shipped from France and thought it was a French engine although it was very much like the lesser known Czech engines I've seen.

Any other French engines?


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From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk  Fri Jan 22 12:28:36 2010
From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 20:28:36 -0000
Subject: [SEL] Engines from France
Message-ID: <82DB3935F31C414DB7EAF2780B1FA703@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>

George,

    At the moment we have 3 Jappy engines they are a twin flywheel 3 1/4hp model E13, a single flywheel  1hp model E13 this is a early version of this size as it has a split crank case and last year whilst at Neunen we purchased a 1 1/2hp? single flywheel vertical hot tube model E10 engine.
    This engine was totally seized solid and missing many parts (Arnie and the Cloistered Roysters can confirm this(Mike took many pictures and refers to it as his engine which we are looking after / restoring)) Work on this particular engine is progressing slowly all the missing parts have been cast and machined including a new flywheel as the original was found to be cracked across the hub and 2 spokes.The cylinder has been rebored and sleeved, new rings installed most of the external parts have now been freed off and refitted sop hopefully we shouldn't be to far away from seeing if it will run.

Cheers, Craig

From George_Best at adp.com  Fri Jan 22 12:57:58 2010
From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:57:58 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Engines from France
In-Reply-To: <82DB3935F31C414DB7EAF2780B1FA703@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>
References: <82DB3935F31C414DB7EAF2780B1FA703@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>
Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3491C362@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>

Craig,

I recently had the chance to buy a 6hp Japy, but haven't moved on it.  Its an early one with 1 flywheel and a large pulley in place of the 2nd flywheel.  Although I know they sold 1 flywheel versions, I think the two flywheel engines look nicer.

Also the larger Japy engines don't have the 4 spoke flywheel that has kind of an interesting look and appeal.

Hope to see you at Nuenen in 2011.  Not much chance I'll be there this year although if current plans fall through I might talk myself into a quick Nuenen trip.

George



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of craig morrison
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 12:29 PM
To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Engines from France

George,

    At the moment we have 3 Jappy engines they are a twin flywheel 3 1/4hp model E13, a single flywheel  1hp model E13 this is a early version of this size as it has a split crank case and last year whilst at Neunen we purchased a 1 1/2hp? single flywheel vertical hot tube model E10 engine.
    This engine was totally seized solid and missing many parts (Arnie and the Cloistered Roysters can confirm this(Mike took many pictures and refers to it as his engine which we are looking after / restoring)) Work on this particular engine is progressing slowly all the missing parts have been cast and machined including a new flywheel as the original was found to be cracked across the hub and 2 spokes.The cylinder has been rebored and sleeved, new rings installed most of the external parts have now been freed off and refitted sop hopefully we shouldn't be to far away from seeing if it will run.

Cheers, Craig
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From fbi at insulate.co.uk  Fri Jan 22 14:07:42 2010
From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:07:42 +0000
Subject: [SEL] Engines from France
In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F348D859B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
References: <cf6.6b947f44.387bd289@aol.com>	<6999519A-5E6B-47B5-9A59-C8463854C66E@rustyiron.com>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F348D859B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
Message-ID: <4B5A21AE.4090501@insulate.co.uk>

Hi George

ALL the engines in our collection are French engines.  We have a French 
half-breed oilfield engine, a French Maytag, a French Petter S ....
Oh, that's not what you meant!
Just the one then, a Bernard.  Small and cute.

Dolly

Best, George wrote:
> Just curious, any list members have engines in their collection that were made in France?
> Or if you don't own a French engine do you know of any French engines in collections?
>
> I currently have 3 French engines.
>
>   

-- 
Jim French
fbi at insulate.co.uk
http://www.insulate.co.uk
http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm



From jopeter at omninet.net.au  Fri Jan 22 14:33:47 2010
From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 06:33:47 +0800
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC><C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
	<4B593040.2070002@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <BB6CDDF836974A72B3AB106180BD1C38@your9e74d7efa7>

I'am with you Jack .......not interested in this garbage anymore .
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack" <nadejack at optusnet.com.au>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT


> Look as if this site has been hijacked by spammers.
> It ain't what it uster be.
> Time to unsubscribe, methinks
>
> JW?
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From edurand at mchsi.com  Fri Jan 22 17:10:31 2010
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:10:31 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Show
In-Reply-To: <3571D628-81D8-4B83-A939-7AE88E50D609@me.com>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBCECGIKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Dave:

I plan to be there for at least a couple of days with the 2009 Algore Edition Green Hybrid Hoyt-Clagwell.  I'll look you up.  We can munch some goobers and swap lies.

Take care - Elden 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of David
> Rotigel
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 01:55 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Show
> 
> 
> Hi Gang, Who will be at the Zolfo show this year? 
> I should get there  
> on March 2nd. I'll be in the usual place--EX 6.
> 	Dave




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Jan 22 22:20:32 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 01:20:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 70, Issue 17
In-Reply-To: <COL112-W19FF3DC6AD8EB8DEBB52AD95620@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.3.1264179602.28885.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
	<COL112-W19FF3DC6AD8EB8DEBB52AD95620@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <b22ec3bb69029d87743bdb6a0b37c4dc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Don't forget your knife-proof vest...

On Fri, January 22, 2010 1:13 pm, Steve Royster wrote:
>
> I won't be at Zolfo this year Dave, I'm saving up to go to Africa to watch the
> soccer match. Steve




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Jan 22 22:41:05 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 01:41:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Engines from France
In-Reply-To: <4B5A21AE.4090501@insulate.co.uk>
References: <cf6.6b947f44.387bd289@aol.com>
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Sorta like you eh Dolly?  8-))

On Fri, January 22, 2010 5:07 pm, Jim French wrote:
> Hi George
>
> ALL the engines in our collection are French engines.  We have a French
> half-breed oilfield engine, a French Maytag, a French Petter S ....
> Oh, that's not what you meant!
> Just the one then, a Bernard.  Small and cute.
>
> Dolly




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Jan 22 22:59:08 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 01:59:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Between Barac and a HARD PLACE! - OT
In-Reply-To: <BB6CDDF836974A72B3AB106180BD1C38@your9e74d7efa7>
References: <201001212008358.SM28080@ChuckDesktopPC><C0828A32-213F-4864-845A-5F7AFA89AFED@me.com>
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Message-ID: <ff6903e5a2de951b556e951ad77347de.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Peter,

I seem to have missed it.  Where were you describing your current engine projects?

See ya,  Arnie

On Fri, January 22, 2010 5:33 pm, peter ogborne wrote:
> I'am with you Jack .......not interested in this garbage anymore .
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack" <nadejack at optusnet.com.au>
>
>> Look as if this site has been hijacked by spammers.
>> It ain't what it uster be.
>> Time to unsubscribe, methinks





From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Fri Jan 22 23:04:05 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:04:05 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Engines from France
In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F348D859B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
Message-ID: <C780EA95.3A35%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

This Rejou Lerouge & Co. Paris engine was at our rally in September:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc09/pages/DSCF3528_JPG.htm


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 23 08:21:22 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 08:21:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Engines from France
In-Reply-To: <C780EA95.3A35%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <480466.58410.qm@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the engine post, Patrick.
Nice engine.
Do you know what cooling system it would have had originally?
Tank cooled?
Screen cooled?
I want one.? 8>))
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Sat, 1/23/10, Patrick Livingstone <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Patrick Livingstone <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Engines from France
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 2:04 AM


This Rejou Lerouge & Co. Paris engine was at our rally in September:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc09/pages/DSCF3528_JPG.htm


Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
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From george at irontrader.com  Sat Jan 23 15:24:23 2010
From: george at irontrader.com (George Best)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:24:23 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Engines from France
In-Reply-To: <C780EA95.3A35%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F348D859B@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
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Message-ID: <000901ca9c83$331a9770$994fc650$@com>

Wow!  That's a nice looking engine.  Would like to have one of those in my
collection.

George

-----Original Message-----
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Livingstone
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:04 PM
To: ATIS
Subject: Re: [SEL] Engines from France

This Rejou Lerouge & Co. Paris engine was at our rally in September:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/samc09/pages/DSCF3528_JPG.htm


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Leichhardt NSW
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From rob at rustyiron.com  Sat Jan 23 15:48:47 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:48:47 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Engines from France
In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3491C362@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
References: <82DB3935F31C414DB7EAF2780B1FA703@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>
	<0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3491C362@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com>
Message-ID: <0997AB5B-0EF4-40C0-A1BE-FA8CDE428FB0@rustyiron.com>

On Jan 22, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Best, George wrote:

>  but haven't moved on it.



I can read the words, George, but don't understand
what you're talking about.  Are you feeling ok?








From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Jan 23 15:58:44 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:58:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Videos on YouTube
Message-ID: <bc128c6da944d0475e4301ee69cc1404.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Folks,  I'm continuing to work on the Lorenz and
Benz Engine Register.  We're up to 89 identified
Lorenz Engines and 51 identified Benz Engines.

There are a number of Lorenz and Benz engines
on YouTube (a couple of which I recognize).

If any one knows any of these engines and can
provide me with contact info for their owners
I would appreciate it.

Thanks.

Arnie Fero
Pittsburgh, PA
fero_ah at city-net.com

3 hp Lorenz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn2I1J1x92Y

3 hp Lorenz with Chaff Cutter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2NJF6sOy6s

3 hp Lorenz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-oIOXUbrNU

3-4 hp Lorenz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MwMVDPP7PA

3-4 hp Lorenz (S/N: 7951 perhaps?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrAUct9uxco

3-4 hp Lorenz (I think I know this one...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_1k-wAo84k

3-4 hp Lorenz with Hacksaw (Rob Skinner's?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4rHkYJlut4

4 hp Lorenz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiODev7Kz1A

4 hp Lorenz (George Best's Engine?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiODev7Kz1A

Diesel Lorenz (Dolly's Video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSsbgXlLkAs

Lorenz with Rotary Saw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgv_dOyoRKE

Benz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zfQtqA4epo

Benz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvQXkPNqruc

Benz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqM0CJXX1U8

Benz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcCt0h-TlxY

Benz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZZbiZZZ9eU

Benz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An02R9eWc_4

4-5 hp Benz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXzq6GmYk8g




From rob at rustyiron.com  Sat Jan 23 16:37:38 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:37:38 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Videos on YouTube
In-Reply-To: <bc128c6da944d0475e4301ee69cc1404.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <bc128c6da944d0475e4301ee69cc1404.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <AF6EEE90-8C9A-433C-9E14-58549DA834A5@rustyiron.com>

On Jan 23, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:

> Folks,  I'm continuing to work on the Lorenz and
> Benz Engine Register.

Continuing?

What happens when you multiply "zero" by... "continuing?"



> 3-4 hp Lorenz with Hacksaw (Rob Skinner's?)
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4rHkYJlut4

Our engine is 3 h.p.

And here's an old video that I'll upload to YouTube just cuz you need  
it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weE8imPU3kY







From jbcast at charter.net  Sat Jan 23 18:08:44 2010
From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:08:44 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Show
In-Reply-To: <3571D628-81D8-4B83-A939-7AE88E50D609@me.com>
Message-ID: <20100123210844.M2JZ6.87793.root@mp16>


---- David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote: 
> Hi Gang, Who will be at the Zolfo show this year? I should get there  
> on March 2nd. I'll be in the usual place--EX 6.
> 	Dave
The Louisiana gang is trying to get together and go.
J.B. Castagnos


From mr at carolina.rr.com  Sat Jan 23 19:09:53 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:09:53 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Videos on YouTube
References: <bc128c6da944d0475e4301ee69cc1404.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<AF6EEE90-8C9A-433C-9E14-58549DA834A5@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <000a01ca9ca2$b36535b0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

continually nothing????


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Skinner" <rob at rustyiron.com>
To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Cc: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: Lorenz and Benz Engine Videos on YouTube


> On Jan 23, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:
> 
>> Folks,  I'm continuing to work on the Lorenz and
>> Benz Engine Register.
> 
> Continuing?
> 
> What happens when you multiply "zero" by... "continuing?"
> 
> 
> 
>> 3-4 hp Lorenz with Hacksaw (Rob Skinner's?)
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4rHkYJlut4
> 
> Our engine is 3 h.p.
> 
> And here's an old video that I'll upload to YouTube just cuz you need  
> it.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weE8imPU3kY
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To UN-subscribe, send a message to:
> 
> stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org
> with:
> unsubscribe
> in the subject of the message. Nothing else, no SIGs, etc.


From edurand at mchsi.com  Sun Jan 24 07:05:03 2010
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:05:03 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Show
In-Reply-To: <20100123210844.M2JZ6.87793.root@mp16>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBCECOIKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

J.B.:

GREAT, J.B.!  It will be great to meet you and the Louisiana contingent.  Be sure to look me up.

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of
> jbcast at charter.net
> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 08:09 PM
> To: The SEL email discussion list
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Zolfo Show
> 
> 
> 
> ---- David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote: 
> > Hi Gang, Who will be at the Zolfo show this 
> year? I should get there  
> > on March 2nd. I'll be in the usual place--EX 6.
> > 	Dave
> The Louisiana gang is trying to get together and go.
> J.B. Castagnos




From jerrye at databak.co.za  Sun Jan 24 10:25:00 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:25:00 +0200
Subject: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1264352402.16951.sel@lists.stationary-engine.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100124194936.00d0bd98@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

At 07:00 PM 24/01/2010, you wrote:
>Message: 6
>Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:09:53 -0500
>From: "Mike Royster" <mr at carolina.rr.com>
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Videos on YouTube
>continually nothing????


Hi List members,
         We've been through this all before. There is a "scammer" in our 
midst again! We went through this a year or so back (and for a few years 
prior to that as well).

         This scammer's "Modus Operandi" (sp.) is always the same - he's 
being doing it for a good number of years now. This scammer "hijacks" a 
list members e-mail address (usually a chap whose initials are "A.F" - 
actual name and address withheld to protect the innocent!).

         He makes promises that he (or his accomplice in Britain) is 
finally "writing" a page which promises to "update" the "Lorenz & Benz 
engine registry" (a non -existent webpage).

         In fact all he is doing is gathering your personal information 
(and address) to enable his henchmen to "uplift" your Lorenz or Benz engine.

         You are urged to ignore his (forged) e-mails. It's just a "scam" 
and, if you do reply, then do not say that you weren't warned when your 
"Lorenz or Benz" engine mysteriously disappears when you least expect it.

         There are other list members who are also aware of this "scam" and 
I'm sure that they will respond to my warning!

Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>  



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sun Jan 24 11:23:07 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:23:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100124194936.00d0bd98@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100124194936.00d0bd98@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <bcb561c7f2be030e4a7cd2a3283af5cd.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Methinks Jerry has too much time on his hands, Jerry does.
8-))

On Sun, January 24, 2010 1:25 pm, Jerry Evans wrote:
> Hi List members,
>          We've been through this all before. There is a "scammer" in our
> midst again! We went through this a year or so back (and for a few years
> prior to that as well).
>
>          This scammer's "Modus Operandi" (sp.) is always the same - he's
> being doing it for a good number of years now. This scammer "hijacks" a
> list members e-mail address (usually a chap whose initials are "A.F" -
> actual name and address withheld to protect the innocent!).
>
>          He makes promises that he (or his accomplice in Britain) is
> finally "writing" a page which promises to "update" the "Lorenz & Benz
> engine registry" (a non -existent webpage).
>
>          In fact all he is doing is gathering your personal information
> (and address) to enable his henchmen to "uplift" your Lorenz or Benz engine.
>
>          You are urged to ignore his (forged) e-mails. It's just a "scam"
> and, if you do reply, then do not say that you weren't warned when your
> "Lorenz or Benz" engine mysteriously disappears when you least expect it.
>
>          There are other list members who are also aware of this "scam" and
> I'm sure that they will respond to my warning!




From mr at carolina.rr.com  Sun Jan 24 14:49:23 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:49:23 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100124194936.00d0bd98@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <00ee01ca9d47$7978d000$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Jerry:

  I feel your pain.  Just this week he scammed me out of serial numbers and 
stats, then videos, promising all the time to "put it in the registry for 
the pleasure, education and benefit of all."  Sadly, I fell for his sales 
pitch and now my information, like others, resides in the great Black Hole 
of Ferodom.  I feel so cheap and unclean.....

MR
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!


> Hi List members,
>         We've been through this all before. There is a "scammer" in our
> midst again! We went through this a year or so back (and for a few years
> prior to that as well).



From mbellar at aol.com  Sun Jan 24 14:59:16 2010
From: mbellar at aol.com (mbellar at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:59:16 EST
Subject: [SEL] Smoke and mirror elusion for Dave
Message-ID: <44d33.7f82a353.388e2ac4@aol.com>

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_pLF5JGAEI_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_pLF5JGAEI) 


From maytagtwin at aol.com  Sun Jan 24 15:43:25 2010
From: maytagtwin at aol.com (maytagtwin at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:43:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
In-Reply-To: <00ee01ca9d47$7978d000$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <00ee01ca9d47$7978d000$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <8CC6B66281F2E85-667C-77E1@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com>

Hi Mike,
?
How sad it is to hear how far our mutual acquaintance has fallen.? There was a time when we looked up to our resident nuke mechanic's wisdom, leadership and guidance.? But, like betrayed altar boys wondering why their favorite priest has gone to Arizona, we mill about looking for solace.? How is it we have come to this low point?? Was it our dis-belief that a smear of fresh goat blood can substitute for pilot sobriety?? Was it the long spring nights in PA with the love ewe?? Was it Dr. John's discovery that a governor can stick in the open position?? We are only sure that our Arnie, the one who makes the big bux pushing particles and living in parallel streams of engine dreams, has betrayed the trust of so many.? We should have known that when the boast of Reddy Kilowatt that electricity would become to cheap to bother to meter proved false,?other lies and mis-directions would surface as well.
?
We may never know the cause, and even if we did, we cannot change the past.? What we?must now do is look to our own government for leadership and guidance and apply the principles so gained to this situation.? With that in mind, I propose we nationalize the Fero Collection and redistribute it amongst ourselves so that we may better protect and enjoy it.? 
?
I would be happy to be in the party to go retrieve the collection, but I am busy that day and, besides, I hear Arnie keeps firearms.? You can just leave my share in the back shed on the McDowell County Maytag Refuge and I'll take it from there.
?
Be of good cheer,
?
Ron
PS:? Does Arnie still have the "fat bastard"???
?
?




-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Royster &lt;mr at carolina.rr.com&gt;
To: The SEL email discussion list &lt;sel at lists.stationary-engine.com&gt;
Sent: Sun, Jan 24, 2010 4:49 pm
Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!




Jerry: 
 
  I feel your pain.  Just this week he scammed me out of serial numbers and  
stats, then videos, promising all the time to "put it in the registry for  
the pleasure, education and benefit of all."  Sadly, I fell for his sales  
pitch and now my information, like others, resides in the great Black Hole  
of Ferodom.  I feel so cheap and unclean..... 
 
MR 
----- Original Message -----  
From: "Jerry Evans" &lt;jerrye at databak.co.za&gt; 
To: &lt;sel at lists.stationary-engine.com&gt; 
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 1:25 PM 
Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !! 
 
 
&gt; Hi List members, 
&gt;         We've been through this all before. There is a "scammer" in our 
&gt; midst again! We went through this a year or so back (and for a few years 
&gt; prior to that as well). 
 
_______________________________________________ 
SEL mailing list 
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com 
http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Sun Jan 24 17:15:56 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:15:56 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
References: <00ee01ca9d47$7978d000$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
	<8CC6B66281F2E85-667C-77E1@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <630B2CB7094E409780228DF6D2F905B2@regpc>

CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP!!
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle. NSW. Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <maytagtwin at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!


> Hi Mike,
> ?
> How sad it is to hear how far our mutual acquaintance has fallen.? There 
> was a time when we looked up to our resident nuke mechanic's wisdom, 
> leadership and guidance.? But, like betrayed altar boys wondering why 
> their favorite priest has gone to Arizona, we mill about looking for 
> solace.? How is it we have come to this low point?? Was it our dis-belief 
> that a smear of fresh goat blood can substitute for pilot sobriety?? Was 
> it the long spring nights in PA with the love ewe?? Was it Dr. John's 
> discovery that a governor can stick in the open position?? We are only 
> sure that our Arnie, the one who makes the big bux pushing particles and 
> living in parallel streams of engine dreams, has betrayed the trust of so 
> many.? We should have known that when the boast of Reddy Kilowatt that 
> electricity would become to cheap to bother to meter proved false,?other 
> lies and mis-directions would surface as well.
> ?
> We may never know the cause, and even if we did, we cannot change the 
> past.? What we?must now do is look to our own government for leadership 
> and guidance and apply the principles so gained to this situation.? With 
> that in mind, I propose we nationalize the Fero Collection and 
> redistribute it amongst ourselves so that we may better protect and enjoy 
> it.?
> ?
> I would be happy to be in the party to go retrieve the collection, but I 
> am busy that day and, besides, I hear Arnie keeps firearms.? You can just 
> leave my share in the back shed on the McDowell County Maytag Refuge and 
> I'll take it from there.
> ?
> Be of good cheer,
> ?
> Ron
> PS:? Does Arnie still have the "fat bastard"???
> ?
> ?
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Royster &lt;mr at carolina.rr.com&gt;
> To: The SEL email discussion list &lt;sel at lists.stationary-engine.com&gt;
> Sent: Sun, Jan 24, 2010 4:49 pm
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
>
>
>
>
> Jerry:
>
>  I feel your pain.  Just this week he scammed me out of serial numbers and
> stats, then videos, promising all the time to "put it in the registry for
> the pleasure, education and benefit of all."  Sadly, I fell for his sales
> pitch and now my information, like others, resides in the great Black Hole
> of Ferodom.  I feel so cheap and unclean.....
>
> MR
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Evans" &lt;jerrye at databak.co.za&gt;
> To: &lt;sel at lists.stationary-engine.com&gt;
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
>
>
> &gt; Hi List members,
> &gt;         We've been through this all before. There is a "scammer" in 
> our
> &gt; midst again! We went through this a year or so back (and for a few 
> years
> &gt; prior to that as well).
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
>
> _______________________________________________
> SEL mailing list
> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel
> 




From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sun Jan 24 18:05:35 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 21:05:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
In-Reply-To: <630B2CB7094E409780228DF6D2F905B2@regpc>
References: <00ee01ca9d47$7978d000$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
	<8CC6B66281F2E85-667C-77E1@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com>
	<630B2CB7094E409780228DF6D2F905B2@regpc>
Message-ID: <6cba3cbfed1d24a79c522442bca6a127.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Creative bunch ain't they?  8-))

On Sun, January 24, 2010 8:15 pm, Reg Ingold wrote:
> CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP!!




From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Sun Jan 24 18:34:13 2010
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:34:13 +1100
Subject: [SEL] OT     Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
In-Reply-To: <6cba3cbfed1d24a79c522442bca6a127.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <00ee01ca9d47$7978d000$0201a8c0@mikecomp><8CC6B66281F2E85-667C-77E1@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com><630B2CB7094E409780228DF6D2F905B2@regpc>
	<6cba3cbfed1d24a79c522442bca6a127.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <2860D70724344325AD9D7F270260E170@KerryPC>

Specially when there is so much TRUE material to work with 8-))

Kerry


> Creative bunch ain't they?  8-))
> 
> On Sun, January 24, 2010 8:15 pm, Reg Ingold wrote:
>> CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP!!



From mr at carolina.rr.com  Sun Jan 24 19:25:11 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 22:25:11 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
References: <00ee01ca9d47$7978d000$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
	<8CC6B66281F2E85-667C-77E1@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <013e01ca9d6e$00b58560$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Well said Ron.  As far as the Fat Bastard engine goes, well it probably 
belongs to Dave or Dolly and was just on loan.  Of course we could always 
check the the FB Registry!   BWAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!!

mr
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <maytagtwin at aol.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!


> Hi Mike,
> ?
> How sad it is to hear how far our mutual acquaintance has fallen.? There 
> was a time when we looked up to our resident nuke mechanic's wisdom, 
> leadership and guidance.? But, like betrayed altar boys wondering why 
> their favorite priest has gone to Arizona, we mill about looking for 
> solace.? How is it we have come to this low point?? Was it our dis-belief 
> that a smear of fresh goat blood can substitute for pilot sobriety?? Was 
> it the long spring nights in PA with the love ewe?? Was it Dr. John's 
> discovery that a governor can stick in the open position?? We are only 
> sure that our Arnie, the one who makes the big bux pushing particles and 
> living in parallel streams of engine dreams, has betrayed the trust of so 
> many.? We should have known that when the boast of Reddy Kilowatt that 
> electricity would become to cheap to bother to meter proved false,?other 
> lies and mis-directions would surface as well.
> ?
> We may never know the cause, and even if we did, we cannot change the 
> past.? What we?must now do is look to our own government for leadership 
> and guidance and apply the principles so gained to this situation.? With 
> that in mind, I propose we nationalize the Fero Collection and 
> redistribute it amongst ourselves so that we may better protect and enjoy 
> it.?
> ?
> I would be happy to be in the party to go retrieve the collection, but I 
> am busy that day and, besides, I hear Arnie keeps firearms.? You can just 
> leave my share in the back shed on the McDowell County Maytag Refuge and 
> I'll take it from there.
> ?
> Be of good cheer,
> ?
> Ron
> PS:? Does Arnie still have the "fat bastard"???
> ?
> ?
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Royster &lt;mr at carolina.rr.com&gt;
> To: The SEL email discussion list &lt;sel at lists.stationary-engine.com&gt;
> Sent: Sun, Jan 24, 2010 4:49 pm
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
>
>
>
>
> Jerry:
>
>  I feel your pain.  Just this week he scammed me out of serial numbers and
> stats, then videos, promising all the time to "put it in the registry for
> the pleasure, education and benefit of all."  Sadly, I fell for his sales
> pitch and now my information, like others, resides in the great Black Hole
> of Ferodom.  I feel so cheap and unclean.....
>
> MR
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Evans" &lt;jerrye at databak.co.za&gt;
> To: &lt;sel at lists.stationary-engine.com&gt;
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz and Benz Engine Registry /Warning !!
>
>
> &gt; Hi List members,
> &gt;         We've been through this all before. There is a "scammer" in 
> our
> &gt; midst again! We went through this a year or so back (and for a few 
> years
> &gt; prior to that as well).
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From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 25 10:48:59 2010
From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:48:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts
Message-ID: <194167.81623.qm@web110211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

http://steampunkwor kshop.com/ skinner-unaflow- steam-engine- needs-new- home

?Ron Frost  ??http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos  ?  Collector of other peoples cultured merchandise


      

From edstoller at earthlink.net  Mon Jan 25 12:55:25 2010
From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed Stoller)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:55:25 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts
References: <194167.81623.qm@web110211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <46CBF6775B7C4304A3C07D0D160BCA4B@edbackup>

Hi Ron,

I could not get the link to work; it looks incomplete.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Frost" <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:48 PM
Subject: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts


http://steampunkwor kshop.com/ skinner-unaflow- steam-engine- needs-new- 
home

Ron Frost  http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos    Collector of 
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From oldironnut at windstream.net  Mon Jan 25 13:27:11 2010
From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:27:11 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts
In-Reply-To: <46CBF6775B7C4304A3C07D0D160BCA4B@edbackup>
References: <194167.81623.qm@web110211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<46CBF6775B7C4304A3C07D0D160BCA4B@edbackup>
Message-ID: <88505EB1-CC0B-4524-932B-ABDA2F0975EF@windstream.net>

On Jan 25, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Ed Stoller wrote:

> Hi Ron,
> 
> I could not get the link to work; it looks incomplete.

It has a few extra spaces in it.  Try <http://steampunkworkshop.com/skinner-unaflow-steam-engine-needs-new-home>

Mike


From Germoamer at aol.com  Mon Jan 25 13:29:28 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:29:28 EST
Subject: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts
Message-ID: <1bd58.47f2ceae.388f6738@aol.com>

<< I could not get the link to work; it looks  incomplete. >>  
 
  Try this:
 
_http://steampunkworkshop.com/_ (http://steampunkworkshop.com/)   

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 25 13:30:51 2010
From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:30:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts
In-Reply-To: <46CBF6775B7C4304A3C07D0D160BCA4B@edbackup>
Message-ID: <622080.17241.qm@web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Try this,

http://steampunkworkshop.com/skinner-unaflow-steam-engine-needs-new-home

Looks like it's still going to have to be copied and pasted.

?Ron Frost  ??http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos  ?  Collector of other peoples cultured merchandise

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, Ed Stoller <edstoller at earthlink.net> wrote:

From: Ed Stoller <edstoller at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 3:55 PM

Hi Ron,

I could not get the link to work; it looks incomplete.

Ed Stoller
New Fairfield, CT
http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Frost" <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com>
To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:48 PM
Subject: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts


http://steampunkwor kshop.com/ skinner-unaflow- steam-engine- needs-new- 
home

Ron Frost? http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos? ? Collector of 
other peoples cultured merchandise



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From marinesurveys at msn.com  Mon Jan 25 13:41:52 2010
From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:41:52 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts
In-Reply-To: <46CBF6775B7C4304A3C07D0D160BCA4B@edbackup>
References: <194167.81623.qm@web110211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,
	<46CBF6775B7C4304A3C07D0D160BCA4B@edbackup>
Message-ID: <COL106-W639D3DAA1D563A90D7D9C2B45F0@phx.gbl>


Ed; copy paste into the search line

http://steampunkwor kshop.com          then look for the Skinner Uniflo

        Franklin S. Skinner 
    Marine Surveyor & Consultant 
3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 
       34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West 
PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470



 
> From: edstoller at earthlink.net
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:55:25 -0500
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts
> 
> Hi Ron,
> 
> I could not get the link to work; it looks incomplete.
> 
> Ed Stoller
> New Fairfield, CT
> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Frost" <ron217_2000 at yahoo.com>
> To: <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:48 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Here is one for you engine nuts
> 
> 
> http://steampunkwor kshop.com/ skinner-unaflow- steam-engine- needs-new- 
> home
> 
> Ron Frost http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos Collector of 
> other peoples cultured merchandise
> 
> 
> 
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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Mon Jan 25 14:30:09 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:30:09 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Happy Australia Day
Message-ID: <C78466A1.3AC5%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

A very Happy Australia Day to all my fellow Australians!

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html





From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Jan 25 14:57:22 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:57:22 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Happy Australia Day
References: <C78466A1.3AC5%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000401ca9e11$c1132350$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

and many more from the Yanks!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:30 PM
Subject: [SEL] Happy Australia Day


>A very Happy Australia Day to all my fellow Australians!
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
>
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Mon Jan 25 14:59:47 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:59:47 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Webster mag brackets
Message-ID: <001d01ca9e12$17f9fea0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

Posting this for Craig in Scotland.

        Do you know if there is anyone reproducing Webster brackets? I desperately need one for a WisconaPep engine of 1 1/2hp, as far as I know it is a 303M56 bracket ,Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks, 
Craig Morroson

From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au  Tue Jan 26 03:05:35 2010
From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:05:35 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Happy Australia Day
In-Reply-To: <C78466A1.3AC5%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <C78466A1.3AC5%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <02f801ca9e77$7bff82c0$73fe8840$@com.au>

Thanks Patrick - you too. I celebrated by cranking up one of the only
engines I have left... An Australian Southern Cross P 4HP. I hadn't had it
running for over three years. Amazing, I put some fresh fuel into the carby
and cranked it up - off it went, it even kept running on the old crap in the
fuel tank after the fresh stuff ran out. Cool. This came about because one
of my neighbours was fool enough to say it has been much quieter since I
sold my engines ;).

Regards
Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick
Livingstone
Sent: Tuesday, 26 January 2010 9:30 AM
To: ATIS; Oldengine
Subject: [SEL] Happy Australia Day

A very Happy Australia Day to all my fellow Australians!

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
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From edurand at mchsi.com  Tue Jan 26 07:34:14 2010
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:34:14 -0600
Subject: [SEL] Spam> RE:  Happy Australia Day
In-Reply-To: <02f801ca9e77$7bff82c0$73fe8840$@com.au>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBCEDJIKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Paul:

I hope you took the muffler off and pointed the exhaust pipe toward your neighbor's house.   :-)

Happy Australia Day!

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Paul
> Pavlinovich
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 05:06 AM
> To: 'The SEL email discussion list'
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Happy Australia Day
> 
....................snip.......................... 
> This came about because one
> of my neighbours was fool enough to say it has 
> been much quieter since I
> sold my engines ;).
> 
> Regards
> Paul




From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au  Wed Jan 27 19:42:14 2010
From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:42:14 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Spam> RE:  Happy Australia Day
In-Reply-To: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBCEDJIKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
References: <02f801ca9e77$7bff82c0$73fe8840$@com.au>
	<OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBCEDJIKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <000001ca9fcb$e216c140$a64443c0$@com.au>

Muffler? What are they for? It doesn't have a pipe on when it is in the shed
(too tall). The steel shed did vibrate with every chuff so I hope he enjoyed
it.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Elden DuRand
Sent: Wednesday, 27 January 2010 2:34 AM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: [SEL] Spam> RE: Happy Australia Day

Paul:

I hope you took the muffler off and pointed the exhaust pipe toward your
neighbor's house.   :-)

Happy Australia Day!

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Paul
> Pavlinovich
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 05:06 AM
> To: 'The SEL email discussion list'
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Happy Australia Day
> 
....................snip.......................... 
> This came about because one
> of my neighbours was fool enough to say it has 
> been much quieter since I
> sold my engines ;).
> 
> Regards
> Paul


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From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com  Wed Jan 27 20:04:00 2010
From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:04:00 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Warning on TOMM website: Conman at work (again)
Message-ID: <C78757E0.3B4B%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>

We have been contacted by a number of readers of the magazine letting us
know that there is a conman at work. Back in 2005, a person by the name of
Rodney Worth was contacting subscribers who were advertising in the magazine
under the wanted section. He would offer the part to the advertiser at a
good price and even offer to freight it to the buyer within a day or two,
also at a good price.
Already, in the last 2 days, one subscriber has lost $800, and another, who
became suspicious, nearly lost $1,500.
The name of the person contacting our readers is a Mr Gorman, who says he
lives in Sydney. He will ask you to deposit or transfer your money to Credit
Union of Australia,? CUA. He uses a mobile phone number.
If you have had contact with this person you should contact your local
police station first, and ask them to contact Illawarra? detectives? in NSW.
Areas that he has targeted so far, are Colac in Vic, and Wauchope, NSW.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html






From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au  Wed Jan 27 20:05:03 2010
From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:05:03 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Urgent! Large steamengines about to be scrapped - can you
	save them?
Message-ID: <000a01ca9fcf$120e1580$362a4080$@com.au>

 

Please see this article for details

 

http://www.steamengine.com.au/index.php/component/content/article/1-home/277
-large-steam-engines-about-to-be-scrapped-can-you-save-them

 

Paul



From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au  Wed Jan 27 20:44:13 2010
From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:44:13 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Warning on TOMM website: Conman at work (again)
In-Reply-To: <C78757E0.3B4B%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
References: <C78757E0.3B4B%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001ca9fd4$8a97fca0$9fc7f5e0$@com.au>

The idiot is still using the same name? I guess he wants back inside for
another stretch.

-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick
Livingstone
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 3:04 PM
To: ATIS; Oldengine
Subject: [SEL] Warning on TOMM website: Conman at work (again)

We have been contacted by a number of readers of the magazine letting us
know that there is a conman at work. Back in 2005, a person by the name of
Rodney Worth was contacting subscribers who were advertising in the magazine
under the wanted section. He would offer the part to the advertiser at a
good price and even offer to freight it to the buyer within a day or two,
also at a good price.
Already, in the last 2 days, one subscriber has lost $800, and another, who
became suspicious, nearly lost $1,500.
The name of the person contacting our readers is a Mr Gorman, who says he
lives in Sydney. He will ask you to deposit or transfer your money to Credit
Union of Australia,? CUA. He uses a mobile phone number.
If you have had contact with this person you should contact your local
police station first, and ask them to contact Illawarra? detectives? in NSW.
Areas that he has targeted so far, are Colac in Vic, and Wauchope, NSW.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
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From k_armstrong at arach.net.au  Wed Jan 27 21:20:33 2010
From: k_armstrong at arach.net.au (kevin armstrong)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:20:33 +0800
Subject: [SEL] sunshine engine
Message-ID: <B4E00BFB3B654AED9480A43B3E2DE11A@armstrong>

    Hello all,
 I have a 3 hp Sunshine 2 stroke type C petrol engine parts for sale

muffler complete with top
id plate s/n 3532
crank shaft
flywheels and governor assemble

contact me off list for photos etc
regards

Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong
Collectors of old things
Perth
WA 
Australia
Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member 
V.C.C. of WA. member 
k_armstrong at arach.net.au
www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong


From rustyiron1 at bigpond.com  Thu Jan 28 01:15:45 2010
From: rustyiron1 at bigpond.com (rustyiron1)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:15:45 +1000
Subject: [SEL] Warning on TOMM website: Conman at work (again)
References: <C78757E0.3B4B%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0D599C56EB214FEAA60DA6A2A0DB4318@Andy>

Thanks for the heads up Patrick, I was one of the ones that got caught by 
"Rodney Worth" in 2005.

Andy Nicholson
Brandon Qld
OZ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:04 PM
Subject: [SEL] Warning on TOMM website: Conman at work (again)


We have been contacted by a number of readers of the magazine letting us
know that there is a conman at work. Back in 2005, a person by the name of
Rodney Worth was contacting subscribers who were advertising in the magazine
under the wanted section. He would offer the part to the advertiser at a
good price and even offer to freight it to the buyer within a day or two,
also at a good price.
Already, in the last 2 days, one subscriber has lost $800, and another, who
became suspicious, nearly lost $1,500.
The name of the person contacting our readers is a Mr Gorman, who says he
lives in Sydney. He will ask you to deposit or transfer your money to Credit
Union of Australia, CUA. He uses a mobile phone number.
If you have had contact with this person you should contact your local
police station first, and ask them to contact Illawarra detectives in NSW.
Areas that he has targeted so far, are Colac in Vic, and Wauchope, NSW.

Patrick M Livingstone
Leichhardt NSW
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From randmingold at hotkey.net.au  Thu Jan 28 02:14:38 2010
From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:14:38 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Warning on TOMM website: Conman at work (again)
References: <C78757E0.3B4B%patrick.livingstone@gmail.com>
	<0D599C56EB214FEAA60DA6A2A0DB4318@Andy>
Message-ID: <383D8504C4894330AD6ED43D8080BC4C@regpc>

ok. NOW, how CAN US, AS A GROUP, catch HIM?
Brains  in top gear lads. We surely can "can" this dude.
Reg & Marg Ingold
Newcastle. NSW. Australia
randmingold at hotkey.net.au
http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "rustyiron1" <rustyiron1 at bigpond.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Warning on TOMM website: Conman at work (again)


> Thanks for the heads up Patrick, I was one of the ones that got caught by
> "Rodney Worth" in 2005.
>
> Andy Nicholson
> Brandon Qld
> OZ
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Patrick Livingstone" <patrick.livingstone at gmail.com>
> To: "ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine"
> <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:04 PM
> Subject: [SEL] Warning on TOMM website: Conman at work (again)
>
>
> We have been contacted by a number of readers of the magazine letting us
> know that there is a conman at work. Back in 2005, a person by the name of
> Rodney Worth was contacting subscribers who were advertising in the 
> magazine
> under the wanted section. He would offer the part to the advertiser at a
> good price and even offer to freight it to the buyer within a day or two,
> also at a good price.
> Already, in the last 2 days, one subscriber has lost $800, and another, 
> who
> became suspicious, nearly lost $1,500.
> The name of the person contacting our readers is a Mr Gorman, who says he
> lives in Sydney. He will ask you to deposit or transfer your money to 
> Credit
> Union of Australia, CUA. He uses a mobile phone number.
> If you have had contact with this person you should contact your local
> police station first, and ask them to contact Illawarra detectives in NSW.
> Areas that he has targeted so far, are Colac in Vic, and Wauchope, NSW.
>
> Patrick M Livingstone
> Leichhardt NSW
> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html
>
>
>
>
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From marinesurveys at msn.com  Fri Jan 29 05:48:35 2010
From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:48:35 -0500
Subject: [SEL] F-M timing gear / Gov.
In-Reply-To: <6715F08B244F44688FAB0E1430A9585E@BA8718F5>
References: <002101caa079$31c0b400$95421c00$@net>,
	<6715F08B244F44688FAB0E1430A9585E@BA8718F5>
Message-ID: <COL106-W64D3089A041B2EDC304DF7B45B0@phx.gbl>


for anyone intersted in the above , go to E-Bay  link below

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hit-Miss-Engine-Timing-Gear-Governor-Fairbanks-Morse_W0QQitemZ220546596761QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item335999ff99

 

or E-Bay item # 220546596761

        Franklin S. Skinner 
    Marine Surveyor & Consultant 
3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 
       34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West 
PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470



 


From: leo at bleedingartindustries.com
To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: RE: someone want this?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:38:12 -0700





Steam punk people are pretty genuine folk.  It is an art movement (like goth or punk or emo) based in the idea of what the world would have looked like without the gas engine if everything was run by steam.  It is a growing movement and you can usually tell which ones they are cause they look like something out of any Jules Verne novel walking down your street.  Unless you work in the entertainment industry, it can be kinda weird to spot.  They are highly creative with their props and do some fantastic work.  That said you really have to do your due diligence.  I would talk to him and see what he is all about.
 
Great photos and very good writing style.
 
L
www.engineutopia.com
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org [mailto:stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org] On Behalf Of William Miller
Sent: January 28, 2010 5:23 PM
To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org
Subject: someone want this?
 
A friend sent me this link, just wonder if it?s genuine
 
 
http://steampunkworkshop.com/skinner-unaflow-steam-engine-needs-new-home
 
 
Bill Miller


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From falcon at telenet.net  Fri Jan 29 10:13:59 2010
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:13:59 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
Message-ID: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net>

For anyone interested in how they used to keep things cold prior to the
refrigerator.

http://millersmillsny.com/

If it stays cold for the next couple of weeks they should get some good
ice this year.

Oh, if you plan on coming wear good boots. It gets wet on the ice at
times. A set of ice cleats isn't a bad idea either...

-- 
Steve W.



From jerrye at databak.co.za  Fri Jan 29 14:21:28 2010
From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:21:28 +0200
Subject: [SEL] My club website
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100129234510.00cdbd78@mail.cyberserv.co.za>

Hi Guys 'n Gals,
         I've been appointed as the webmaster for our club and have just 
revamped the whole design of the site (which was a mess).

         It still has a long way to go and one or two of the links in the 
menu do not work (simply because I'm still waiting for information for 
those pages). (I'm beginning to understand how Dolly must feel waiting for 
Arnie to do the Lorenz Register :-)) The committee are real keen about some 
ideas but when it gets down to sending me information it's like drawing 
blood from a stone!)

         One pages is still filled with "Lorem ipsum" (That latin text that 
printers use when doing a rough layout) because, again, I'm waiting for 
others !!

         I'm quite proud of the "banner" on the top right - all my own work :-)

Please have a look:
<www.vaaloldwheels.org.za>

         I'd really appreciate some criticism and input.

         The pages are opitimised for monitors set to 1360 x 788 pixels so 
may not look too good on lower resolutions. I'd like to know what others think.

         Also, it was designed for a decent browser (Firefox) - That thing 
from Microsoft (IE) renders the colours in the menu incorrectly and also 
screws up some of the page formatting but I'll get down to sorting that out 
later.


Keep the revs up (or down)
Jerry Evans
Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
<www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>  



From edurand at mchsi.com  Fri Jan 29 16:45:34 2010
From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:45:34 -0600
Subject: [SEL] My club website
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100129234510.00cdbd78@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <OIEFKKHCGPIPGBDJOBHBGEEMIKAA.edurand@mchsi.com>

Jerry:

Nice site!

Take care - Elden
http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand 

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On
>  Behalf Of Jerry Evans
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 04:21 PM
> To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; 
> sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Cc: slick at toltbbs.com
> Subject: [SEL] My club website




From rotigel at me.com  Fri Jan 29 16:06:04 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:06:04 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Fwd: [AT] Ice harvest coming up next month
References: <fc46da462fdef.4b6312d7@insightbb.com>
Message-ID: <D34B22DA-AF0E-48C9-9880-B342C2F26592@me.com>

This was a topic recently on the tractor List. Some of you might be  
interested in going to the site and looking at the video.
	Dave


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Larry Goss <rlgoss at insightbb.com>
> Date: January 29, 2010 5:54:47 PM EST
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com 
> >
> Subject: Re: [AT] Ice harvest coming up next month
> Reply-To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com 
> >
>
> Very interesting site, Steve.  It brings to mind entries in my  
> grandmother's diary where she describes the process of filling the  
> ice house on the farm in Colorado.  They lived on the St. Vrain  
> below Lyons, and had several irrigation lakes on the farm which were  
> fed by the river coming down from Estes Park.
>
> I was very interested in the particulars of the ice house in the  
> video.  It is smaller than I expected -- the one on the farm in  
> Colorado was at least twice as large in all dimensions -- 8 times as  
> much ice.  Dad said it got filled every winter, and they always had  
> ice available for an ice cream social every summer.
>
> I expected to see sawdust being used in conjunction with the  
> storage.  That's a detail that is missing from my father's  
> description, but he implied to me that they could not have done it  
> without sawdust.  By the time I was visiting on the farm during  
> summer vacations, refrigeration was well-established and the ice  
> house stood empty year-around.
>
> Larry
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
> Date: Friday, January 29, 2010 12:23
> Subject: [AT] Ice harvest coming up next month
> To: ATIS LIST <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>, Engine list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com 
> >
>
>> For anyone interested in how they used to keep things cold prior
>> to the
>> refrigerator.
>>
>> http://millersmillsny.com/
>>
>> If it stays cold for the next couple of weeks they should get
>> some good
>> ice this year.
>>
>> Oh, if you plan on coming wear good boots. It gets wet on the
>> ice at
>> times. A set of ice cleats isn't a bad idea either...
>>
>> -- 
>> Steve W.


From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Fri Jan 29 18:15:05 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:15:05 -0500
Subject: [SEL] My club website
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100129234510.00cdbd78@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <8A97937D3916449B86A150B3B50C7FB9@tommydk7hxjr4h>

Jerry,
	I like the layout and how you have the links set up.  While I'm
not a "web expert", I like it!

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY





Please have a look:
<www.vaaloldwheels.org.za>

         



From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Fri Jan 29 19:00:29 2010
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:00:29 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net>
References: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net>
Message-ID: <BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl>

Steve..do they use the ice plow pulled by the team?

Got a plow here, just need the handles.

RickinMt.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve W.<mailto:falcon at telenet.net> 
  To: ATIS LIST<mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com> ; Engine list<mailto:sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> 
  Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 11:13 AM
  Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month


  For anyone interested in how they used to keep things cold prior to the
  refrigerator.

  http://millersmillsny.com/<http://millersmillsny.com/>

  If it stays cold for the next couple of weeks they should get some good
  ice this year.

  Oh, if you plan on coming wear good boots. It gets wet on the ice at
  times. A set of ice cleats isn't a bad idea either...

  -- 
  Steve W.

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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Fri Jan 29 21:24:58 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:24:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
Message-ID: <67865e072fac5ad31378c0ba1f1e3751.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Hi Folks,

Wanna join a movement?  I read this really interesting article about a microbrewery
in Youngstown, Ohio located within spitting distance of the Tod Engine. 
http://www.todengine.org/

It's the Rust Belt Brewing Company.  http://www.rustybrew.com/
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031442-389.stm

The first thought that came to mind was that the Tod Engine would make for an
awesome label for one of their brews (a steam beer perhaps?).

The second thought that came to mind was that Rusty Brew could become the signature
beer for the stationary engine fans!

So, check 'em out, drop 'em a line at rustybrew at gmail.com, or join 'em on FaceBook.
I'd really like to see that Tod Engine beer!!

See ya,  Arnie

PS - If you're in the neighborhood of the Tod Engine, check out the establishment
that's been voted No. 2 best beer retailer in the world.
http://www.vintage-estate.com

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031444-389.stm





From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Fri Jan 29 21:53:10 2010
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:53:10 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl>
References: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net>
	<BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4B63C946.4070305@xplornet.com>

Hello Rick,
	Can you post a picture of the ice plow? I have never seen one as they 
used hand saws around here during the ice age. Rural power came in 
around here in the early '50s. Bye the way, most ice houses in this area 
were in the ground like shallow hand dug wells.

Rupert

On 1/29/2010 8:00 PM, Richard Strobel wrote:
> Steve..do they use the ice plow pulled by the team?
>
> Got a plow here, just need the handles.
>
> RickinMt.
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Steve W.<mailto:falcon at telenet.net>
>    To: ATIS LIST<mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>  ; Engine list<mailto:sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
>    Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 11:13 AM
>    Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
>
>
>    For anyone interested in how they used to keep things cold prior to the
>    refrigerator.
>
>    http://millersmillsny.com/<http://millersmillsny.com/>
>
>    If it stays cold for the next couple of weeks they should get some good
>    ice this year.
>
>    Oh, if you plan on coming wear good boots. It gets wet on the ice at
>    times. A set of ice cleats isn't a bad idea either...
>
>    --
>    Steve W.
>
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yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://users.xplornet.com/~rwenig/Home/


From ozengine at optusnet.com.au  Sat Jan 30 02:05:58 2010
From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:05:58 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net>
References: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net>
Message-ID: <C607B1C9F3CC4BFC97E2C5DAD5DBE627@KerryPC>

Thanks Steve, Dave
Something that is a totally different way of life to what we down here are 
used to

Kerry
Lithgow NSW Oz



> For anyone interested in how they used to keep things cold prior to the
> refrigerator.
>
> http://millersmillsny.com/
>



From plowe at exemail.com.au  Sat Jan 30 03:29:50 2010
From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 22:29:50 +1100
Subject: [SEL] Sessions Clock movement wanted OT
Message-ID: <D7CD295B7AC2458090513DCF5B79B019@peterlowe>

Hi all
OT but I want to ask you Yanks a question.
I have a Sessions Clock that was my grand mothers and the escapement movement bearings are badly worn, sufficiently enough that it will not keep running as the gears jam.
Do any of you seriously collect clocks that you might have a spare movement.
The model is a Session "Ardmore", it dings on the half hour and soft deep chime on the hour.
I guess I could silver solder up the old bearings and drill new holes :-((((
Any help would be appreciated.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Skype name: ozengines

From Germoamer at aol.com  Sat Jan 30 04:41:34 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 07:41:34 EST
Subject: [SEL] Sessions Clock movement wanted OT
Message-ID: <de4.365725fd.389582fe@aol.com>

Peter,
 
I would take it to a clock repair shop and have an estimate to  repair.  I 
have a friend in that business and it is amazing what they  rebuild.  Too 
bad you are not close as he is a great guy and very good at  what he does.  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From falcon at telenet.net  Sat Jan 30 05:39:07 2010
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 08:39:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl>
References: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net>
	<BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4B64367B.2000302@telenet.net>

Richard Strobel wrote:
> Steve..do they use the ice plow pulled by the team?
> 
> Got a plow here, just need the handles.
> 
> RickinMt.

It depends on the number of folks watching and working. If they have a
lot they do a progression type show where they demonstrate the oldest
technique, then the rotary plow and then the latest gear (which are
specially shielded chain saws using non toxic lube for the chain).

If they only have a smaller crowd they use the rotary plow.


-- 
Steve W.



From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Sat Jan 30 06:40:47 2010
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 07:40:47 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net><BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl>
	<4B63C946.4070305@xplornet.com>
References: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net><BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl>
	<4B63C946.4070305@xplornet.com>
Message-ID: <BAY113-DS9843AE6DA91A5884CA847BB5A0@phx.gbl>

Howdee Rupert;
    The last two pictures are of my plow and the first gives one a good idea of how they were used.  I believe it to be all hand forged..maybe not the cutting teeth.
   A friend of mine said that in many cases a small area was dyked up and flooded and harvested.  He says he can still show me the remains of some.  I have never seen one work up close and personal.

http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/561833262SwcYLc<http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/561833262SwcYLc>

Regards,
RickinMt.
PS:  Sorry for the html gang.  I don't know how to change that in a reply





  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rupert<mailto:rwenig2 at xplornet.com> 
  To: The SEL email discussion list<mailto:sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> 
  Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month


  Hello Rick,
  Can you post a picture of the ice plow? I have never seen one as they 
  used hand saws around here during the ice age. Rural power came in 
  around here in the early '50s. Bye the way, most ice houses in this area 
  were in the ground like shallow hand dug wells.

  Rupert

  On 1/29/2010 8:00 PM, Richard Strobel wrote:
  > Steve..do they use the ice plow pulled by the team?
  >
  > Got a plow here, just need the handles.
  >
  > RickinMt.
  >    ----- Original Message -----
  >    From: Steve W.<mailto:falcon at telenet.net<mailto:falcon at telenet.net>>
  >    To: ATIS LIST<mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com<mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>>  ; Engine list<mailto:sel at lists.stationary-engine.com<mailto:sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>>
  >    Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 11:13 AM
  >    Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
  >
  >
  >    For anyone interested in how they used to keep things cold prior to the
  >    refrigerator.
  >
  >    http://millersmillsny.com/<http://millersmillsny.com/<http://millersmillsny.com/%3Chttp://millersmillsny.com/>>
  >
  >    If it stays cold for the next couple of weeks they should get some good
  >    ice this year.
  >
  >    Oh, if you plan on coming wear good boots. It gets wet on the ice at
  >    times. A set of ice cleats isn't a bad idea either...
  >
  >    --
  >    Steve W.
  >
  >    _______________________________________________
  >    SEL mailing list
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  Camrose, Alberta, Canada. 

  email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com<mailto:rwenig2 at xplornet.com>

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From rwenig2 at xplornet.com  Sat Jan 30 07:19:35 2010
From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 08:19:35 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DS9843AE6DA91A5884CA847BB5A0@phx.gbl>
References: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net><BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl>	<4B63C946.4070305@xplornet.com>
	<BAY113-DS9843AE6DA91A5884CA847BB5A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4B644E07.8040309@xplornet.com>

	Thanks Rick. I don't think I've seen a plow like that before. Most ice 
was cut with hand saws around here.

Rupert

On 1/30/2010 7:40 AM, Richard Strobel wrote:
> Howdee Rupert;
>      The last two pictures are of my plow and the first gives one a good idea of how they were used.  I believe it to be all hand forged..maybe not the cutting teeth.
>     A friend of mine said that in many cases a small area was dyked up and flooded and harvested.  He says he can still show me the remains of some.  I have never seen one work up close and personal.
>
> http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/561833262SwcYLc<http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/561833262SwcYLc>
>
> Regards,
> RickinMt.
> PS:  Sorry for the html gang.  I don't know how to change that in a reply
>
-- 

yvt

Rupert Wenig
Camrose, Alberta, Canada.	

email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com
	
http://users.xplornet.com/~rwenig/Home/


From blcksmth at wcnet.org  Sat Jan 30 07:46:27 2010
From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:46:27 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Sessions Clock movement wanted OT
In-Reply-To: <D7CD295B7AC2458090513DCF5B79B019@peterlowe>
References: <D7CD295B7AC2458090513DCF5B79B019@peterlowe>
Message-ID: <C12E99EE65844CBA91270C0E77ED9295@Eagle>


	A clock repair shop should be able to insert new bushings for the
worn bearings. I had a grandfather clock repaired that way. 


Bob Willman
Bowling Green, Ohio
The Eagle's Anvil
WB8NQW

Before any man can be considered as a member of civil society, he must be
considered as a subject of the Governor of the Universe.
James Madison
-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:30 AM
To: ATIS; Oldengine.org
Subject: [SEL] Sessions Clock movement wanted OT

Hi all
OT but I want to ask you Yanks a question.
I have a Sessions Clock that was my grand mothers and the escapement
movement bearings are badly worn, sufficiently enough that it will not keep
running as the gears jam.
Do any of you seriously collect clocks that you might have a spare movement.
The model is a Session "Ardmore", it dings on the half hour and soft deep
chime on the hour.
I guess I could silver solder up the old bearings and drill new holes :-((((
Any help would be appreciated.

Regards
Peter Lowe
R&V Engine Registrar
Australia
http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm
Skype name: ozengines
_______________________________________________
SEL mailing list
SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Jan 30 08:28:56 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 11:28:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DS9843AE6DA91A5884CA847BB5A0@phx.gbl>
References: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net><BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl>
	<4B63C946.4070305@xplornet.com>
	<BAY113-DS9843AE6DA91A5884CA847BB5A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <d8000a9b6dfa35633db7993b52356122.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Rick,  That's a pretty nifty gadget.  I had been wondering how this "ice plow" would
work.  Thanks!!

See ya,  Arnie

On Sat, January 30, 2010 9:40 am, Richard Strobel wrote:
> Howdee Rupert;
>     The last two pictures are of my plow and the first gives one a good idea of how
> they were used.  I believe it to be all hand forged..maybe not the cutting
> teeth.
>    A friend of mine said that in many cases a small area was dyked up and flooded
> and harvested.  He says he can still show me the remains of some.  I have never
> seen one work up close and personal.
>
> http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/561833262SwcYLc<http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/561833262SwcYLc>





From bmatthews at matthewsfarm.com  Sat Jan 30 08:26:36 2010
From: bmatthews at matthewsfarm.com (Bob Matthews)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 11:26:36 -0500
Subject: [SEL] My club website
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100129234510.00cdbd78@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100129234510.00cdbd78@mail.cyberserv.co.za>
Message-ID: <4B645DBC.2050009@matthewsfarm.com>

Jerry,
Nice website.  The only thing that I noticed was that the 
title-origin-banner at the top of the page seemed to blend in to the 
whole page and not stand out much.  Possibly adding color to the graphic 
, or it may just be my older monitor.


-- 
<< Bob Matthews, NW Ohio >>

Jerry Evans wrote:

> 
>          I'd really appreciate some criticism and input.
> 


From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com  Sat Jan 30 08:36:44 2010
From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:36:44 -0700
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net><BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl><4B63C946.4070305@xplornet.com><BAY113-DS9843AE6DA91A5884CA847BB5A0@phx.gbl>
	<d8000a9b6dfa35633db7993b52356122.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net><BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl><4B63C946.4070305@xplornet.com><BAY113-DS9843AE6DA91A5884CA847BB5A0@phx.gbl>
	<d8000a9b6dfa35633db7993b52356122.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <BAY113-DS1EA790241E014CE334158BB5A0@phx.gbl>

yea..it's kinda kewl.  If you start at the front the teeth keep getting deeper.  I'd like to see how deep it would cut in one pass.  I might have more pictures to post on Webshots...will take a look.

later,
Rick
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Arnie Fero<mailto:fero_ah at city-net.com> 
  To: The SEL email discussion list<mailto:sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> 
  Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month


  Rick,  That's a pretty nifty gadget.  I had been wondering how this "ice plow" would
  work.  Thanks!!

  See ya,  Arnie

  On Sat, January 30, 2010 9:40 am, Richard Strobel wrote:
  > Howdee Rupert;
  >     The last two pictures are of my plow and the first gives one a good idea of how
  > they were used.  I believe it to be all hand forged..maybe not the cutting
  > teeth.
  >    A friend of mine said that in many cases a small area was dyked up and flooded
  > and harvested.  He says he can still show me the remains of some.  I have never
  > seen one work up close and personal.
  >
  > http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/561833262SwcYLc<http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/561833262SwcYLc<http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/561833262SwcYLc%3Chttp://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/561833262SwcYLc>>



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From rob at rustyiron.com  Sat Jan 30 08:37:25 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 08:37:25 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <67865e072fac5ad31378c0ba1f1e3751.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <67865e072fac5ad31378c0ba1f1e3751.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <3178CA1C-65F6-4D64-8BEF-57C621359688@rustyiron.com>

It appears that you might have discovered a new party spot for Tod  
enthusiasts when they visit the engine.  And it looks like Rick has  
already set up some kind of mutually beneficial agreement between  
himself and the brewery?check the web page.  Honestly, though, I  
seriously doubt that anyone can brew good beer east of the Rockies.   
Don't feel badly about it, though, it's the result of tradition.

As you know, the best engines in the world were built here in  
California.  In order to lure the best engineers, the best foundrymen,  
and the best machinists, engine manufacturers were forced to establish  
a brewing infrastructure based upon the world's finest hops, the most  
skilled brewmasters, and the most sophisticated breweries, which all  
produced the worlds best beer.  Now it's a tradition that has been  
passed down from generation to generation of western brewers.

So, Arnie, how many gallons per week is the current fee for  
experienced shills?

	
Rob Skinner
Antique Stationary Engines
La Habra, California

rob at rustyiron.com
www.rustyiron.com





On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> Wanna join a movement?  I read this really interesting article about  
> a microbrewery
> in Youngstown, Ohio located within spitting distance of the Tod  
> Engine.
> http://www.todengine.org/
>
> It's the Rust Belt Brewing Company.  http://www.rustybrew.com/
> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031442-389.stm
>
> The first thought that came to mind was that the Tod Engine would  
> make for an
> awesome label for one of their brews (a steam beer perhaps?).
>
> The second thought that came to mind was that Rusty Brew could  
> become the signature
> beer for the stationary engine fans!
>
> So, check 'em out, drop 'em a line at rustybrew at gmail.com, or join  
> 'em on FaceBook.
> I'd really like to see that Tod Engine beer!!
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> PS - If you're in the neighborhood of the Tod Engine, check out the  
> establishment
> that's been voted No. 2 best beer retailer in the world.
> http://www.vintage-estate.com
>
> Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031444-389.stm
>



From bgrimley at bellsouth.net  Sat Jan 30 09:06:38 2010
From: bgrimley at bellsouth.net (Bill Grimley)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:06:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <3178CA1C-65F6-4D64-8BEF-57C621359688@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <831209.78319.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Rob;
Have you seen this website?? Check out numbers 1 thru 4 - - - think those are east of MS.
Bill

http://ratebeer.com/Ratebeerbest/table_2010.asp?title=Best+Beers+of+the+United+States+2010&file=usa_beer_2010.csv

--- On Sat, 1/30/10, Rob Skinner <rob at rustyiron.com> wrote:

From: Rob Skinner <rob at rustyiron.com>
Subject: Re: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
To: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
Cc: "SEL ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>, "Oldengine.org" <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 11:37 AM

It appears that you might have discovered a new party spot for Tod? 
enthusiasts when they visit the engine.? And it looks like Rick has? 
already set up some kind of mutually beneficial agreement between? 
himself and the brewery?check the web page.? Honestly, though, I? 
seriously doubt that anyone can brew good beer east of the Rockies.???
Don't feel badly about it, though, it's the result of tradition.

As you know, the best engines in the world were built here in? 
California.? In order to lure the best engineers, the best foundrymen,? 
and the best machinists, engine manufacturers were forced to establish? 
a brewing infrastructure based upon the world's finest hops, the most? 
skilled brewmasters, and the most sophisticated breweries, which all? 
produced the worlds best beer.? Now it's a tradition that has been? 
passed down from generation to generation of western brewers.

So, Arnie, how many gallons per week is the current fee for? 
experienced shills?

??? 
Rob Skinner
Antique Stationary Engines
La Habra, California

rob at rustyiron.com
www.rustyiron.com





On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> Wanna join a movement?? I read this really interesting article about? 
> a microbrewery
> in Youngstown, Ohio located within spitting distance of the Tod? 
> Engine.
> http://www.todengine.org/
>
> It's the Rust Belt Brewing Company.? http://www.rustybrew.com/
> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031442-389.stm
>
> The first thought that came to mind was that the Tod Engine would? 
> make for an
> awesome label for one of their brews (a steam beer perhaps?).
>
> The second thought that came to mind was that Rusty Brew could? 
> become the signature
> beer for the stationary engine fans!
>
> So, check 'em out, drop 'em a line at rustybrew at gmail.com, or join? 
> 'em on FaceBook.
> I'd really like to see that Tod Engine beer!!
>
> See ya,? Arnie
>
> PS - If you're in the neighborhood of the Tod Engine, check out the? 
> establishment
> that's been voted No. 2 best beer retailer in the world.
> http://www.vintage-estate.com
>
> Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031444-389.stm
>

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From Germoamer at aol.com  Sat Jan 30 09:13:38 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:13:38 EST
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
Message-ID: <7309.7e7d47d0.3895c2c2@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 1/30/2010 11:27:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,  
fero_ah at city-net.com writes:

A  friend of mine said that in many cases a small area was dyked up and  
flooded
> and harvested.  He says he can still show me the remains  of some.  I 
have never
> seen one work up close and  personal.

There are the remains of two small ice ponds here on our farm.  They  are 
located in a low area in the woods along a branch, and shaded by the North  
side of a hill.  The dug out ice house was filled in a number of years  ago.  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sat Jan 30 09:24:52 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:24:52 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DS9843AE6DA91A5884CA847BB5A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DA23596644524F18906B6A2A10CEAF2A@tommydk7hxjr4h>

There was a nice article on ice harvesting in Farm Collector magazine a
couple of years ago.  Pretty interesting to see what folks used to have
to do.  

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



From mr at carolina.rr.com  Sat Jan 30 09:34:48 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:34:48 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
References: <67865e072fac5ad31378c0ba1f1e3751.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<3178CA1C-65F6-4D64-8BEF-57C621359688@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <003c01caa1d2$889ff970$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

I think I'm gonna heave.....  all that "best of" is making me reel.....


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Skinner" <rob at rustyiron.com>
To: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
Cc: "SEL ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>; "Oldengine.org" 
<stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew


It appears that you might have discovered a new party spot for Tod
enthusiasts when they visit the engine.  And it looks like Rick has
already set up some kind of mutually beneficial agreement between
himself and the brewery?check the web page.  Honestly, though, I
seriously doubt that anyone can brew good beer east of the Rockies.
Don't feel badly about it, though, it's the result of tradition.

As you know, the best engines in the world were built here in
California.  In order to lure the best engineers, the best foundrymen,
and the best machinists, engine manufacturers were forced to establish
a brewing infrastructure based upon the world's finest hops, the most
skilled brewmasters, and the most sophisticated breweries, which all
produced the worlds best beer.  Now it's a tradition that has been
passed down from generation to generation of western brewers.

So, Arnie, how many gallons per week is the current fee for
experienced shills?


Rob Skinner
Antique Stationary Engines
La Habra, California

rob at rustyiron.com
www.rustyiron.com





On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> Wanna join a movement?  I read this really interesting article about
> a microbrewery
> in Youngstown, Ohio located within spitting distance of the Tod
> Engine.
> http://www.todengine.org/
>
> It's the Rust Belt Brewing Company.  http://www.rustybrew.com/
> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031442-389.stm
>
> The first thought that came to mind was that the Tod Engine would
> make for an
> awesome label for one of their brews (a steam beer perhaps?).
>
> The second thought that came to mind was that Rusty Brew could
> become the signature
> beer for the stationary engine fans!
>
> So, check 'em out, drop 'em a line at rustybrew at gmail.com, or join
> 'em on FaceBook.
> I'd really like to see that Tod Engine beer!!
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> PS - If you're in the neighborhood of the Tod Engine, check out the
> establishment
> that's been voted No. 2 best beer retailer in the world.
> http://www.vintage-estate.com
>
> Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031444-389.stm
>

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From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sat Jan 30 09:40:32 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:40:32 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <831209.78319.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <14E25ACC58C745919BE5D9C83F267230@tommydk7hxjr4h>

Rob,
	The weak stuff may be best made in CA.  The REAL stuff is made
here in KY.  I can smell the mash out my back door!

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY




Honestly, though, I? 
seriously doubt that anyone can brew good beer east of the Rockies.???
Don't feel badly about it, though, it's the result of tradition.

Rob Skinner
Antique Stationary Engines
La Habra, California

rob at rustyiron.com
www.rustyiron.com





On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> Wanna join a movement?? I read this really interesting article about
> a microbrewery
> in Youngstown, Ohio located within spitting distance of the Tod? 
> Engine.
> http://www.todengine.org/
>
> It's the Rust Belt Brewing Company.? http://www.rustybrew.com/ 
> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031442-389.stm
>
> The first thought that came to mind was that the Tod Engine would
> make for an
> awesome label for one of their brews (a steam beer perhaps?).
>
> The second thought that came to mind was that Rusty Brew could
> become the signature
> beer for the stationary engine fans!
>
> So, check 'em out, drop 'em a line at rustybrew at gmail.com, or join
> 'em on FaceBook.
> I'd really like to see that Tod Engine beer!!
>
> See ya,? Arnie
>
> PS - If you're in the neighborhood of the Tod Engine, check out the
> establishment
> that's been voted No. 2 best beer retailer in the world.
> http://www.vintage-estate.com
>
> Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031444-389.stm
>

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From rob at rustyiron.com  Sat Jan 30 09:54:03 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:54:03 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <003c01caa1d2$889ff970$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <67865e072fac5ad31378c0ba1f1e3751.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<3178CA1C-65F6-4D64-8BEF-57C621359688@rustyiron.com>
	<003c01caa1d2$889ff970$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <1759490B-67C8-44A5-96C1-ACB06EC0AE24@rustyiron.com>


On Jan 30, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Mike Royster wrote:

>  all that "best of" is making me reel.....


So do you think Rustybrew is paying Arnie in pierogies and beer, or do  
you think that held out and struck a deal for beer and pierogies?







From rob at rustyiron.com  Sat Jan 30 10:33:01 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:33:01 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <14E25ACC58C745919BE5D9C83F267230@tommydk7hxjr4h>
References: <14E25ACC58C745919BE5D9C83F267230@tommydk7hxjr4h>
Message-ID: <D4DC8DA7-B8A0-40F3-B03E-08403F96197A@rustyiron.com>

On Jan 30, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:

> Rob,
> 	The weak stuff may be best made in CA.  The REAL stuff is made
> here in KY.  I can smell the mash out my back door!
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY


Hi, Tommy.

Perhaps what you say is true, but I still think mine is better.  Let's  
settle this disagreement is like gentlemen.  I'll ante up an engine,  
and you ante up an engine, just to make the contest interesting.  I'll  
quaff a pint of my local liquid refreshment, and then you'll quaff a  
pint of yours.  The better refreshment will be determined when the  
opposition decides that he's had enough of his own, and concedes.

After our recent visit to your neighborhood and sampling the local  
concoctions, I've been doing some taste testing.  Most recently, I did  
a side-by-side with Maker's Mark and Glenlivet.  Apples and oranges,  
but I wanted to compare the qualities of each.  The complexity of the  
bourbon was much more exciting than the scotch, which I found almost  
monodimensional.  I'm left wondering if that would be the case with  
all bourbons and all scotches.

Next on the agenda is a side-by-side of Maker's Mark and Woodford  
Reserve, the preferred libation of that engineman from Versailles.

Rob





From rotigel at me.com  Sat Jan 30 10:47:23 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:47:23 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <14E25ACC58C745919BE5D9C83F267230@tommydk7hxjr4h>
References: <14E25ACC58C745919BE5D9C83F267230@tommydk7hxjr4h>
Message-ID: <53AA8D07-3D93-4056-BFDE-0358782C8DFD@me.com>

Further, when you are a JUDGE, a POWERFUL man, AND a close friend of  
both POTUS and TOTUS, no one comes looking for the source of the smell!
	Dave

On Jan 30, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:

> Rob,
> 	The weak stuff may be best made in CA.  The REAL stuff is made
> here in KY.  I can smell the mash out my back door!
>
> Tommy Turner
> Magnolia, KY
>
>
>
>
> Honestly, though, I
> seriously doubt that anyone can brew good beer east of the Rockies.
> Don't feel badly about it, though, it's the result of tradition.
>
> Rob Skinner
> Antique Stationary Engines
> La Habra, California
>
> rob at rustyiron.com
> www.rustyiron.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Wanna join a movement?  I read this really interesting article about
>> a microbrewery
>> in Youngstown, Ohio located within spitting distance of the Tod
>> Engine.
>> http://www.todengine.org/
>>
>> It's the Rust Belt Brewing Company.  http://www.rustybrew.com/
>> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031442-389.stm
>>
>> The first thought that came to mind was that the Tod Engine would
>> make for an
>> awesome label for one of their brews (a steam beer perhaps?).
>>
>> The second thought that came to mind was that Rusty Brew could
>> become the signature
>> beer for the stationary engine fans!
>>
>> So, check 'em out, drop 'em a line at rustybrew at gmail.com, or join
>> 'em on FaceBook.
>> I'd really like to see that Tod Engine beer!!
>>
>> See ya,  Arnie
>>
>> PS - If you're in the neighborhood of the Tod Engine, check out the
>> establishment
>> that's been voted No. 2 best beer retailer in the world.
>> http://www.vintage-estate.com
>>
>> Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031444-389.stm
>>
>
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From falcon at telenet.net  Sat Jan 30 10:49:16 2010
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:49:16 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-DS1EA790241E014CE334158BB5A0@phx.gbl>
References: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net><BAY113-DS2ECA35767F2755521030FBB5A0@phx.gbl><4B63C946.4070305@xplornet.com><BAY113-DS9843AE6DA91A5884CA847BB5A0@phx.gbl>	<d8000a9b6dfa35633db7993b52356122.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<BAY113-DS1EA790241E014CE334158BB5A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4B647F2C.5070801@telenet.net>

Richard Strobel wrote:
> yea..it's kinda kewl.  If you start at the front the teeth keep
> getting deeper.  I'd like to see how deep it would cut in one pass.
> I might have more pictures to post on Webshots...will take a look.
> 
> later, Rick

It all depends on how hard the ice really is as to how far it cuts per
pass. The plow isn't made to cut completely through the ice sheet but to
score it deep enough that the cut guides the saw used later.The usual
depth of cut is around 8 inches or so.
When the ice is good solid ice it cuts nice.

-- 
Steve W.



From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Jan 30 11:15:27 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:15:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <3178CA1C-65F6-4D64-8BEF-57C621359688@rustyiron.com>
References: <67865e072fac5ad31378c0ba1f1e3751.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<3178CA1C-65F6-4D64-8BEF-57C621359688@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <35faf5554bba5ef6c7736e5825c1bcbc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Gallons & Gallons.  8-))

On Sat, January 30, 2010 11:37 am, Rob Skinner wrote:
>
> So, Arnie, how many gallons per week is the current fee for
> experienced shills?




From Germoamer at aol.com  Sat Jan 30 11:19:05 2010
From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:19:05 EST
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
Message-ID: <9e4e.24153813.3895e029@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 1/30/2010 2:01:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
falcon at telenet.net writes:

The plow  isn't made to cut completely through the ice sheet but to
score it deep  enough that the cut guides the saw used later.


Steve,
 
Could it also have been to cut a "crack line" that a wedge would have been  
driven into and hit with a big hammer to break chunks off?  Just a  
thought.  
 
11 inches of snow and still falling!  

Tom  Schmutz
Concord,  Va.
germoamer at AOL.com


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Jan 30 11:47:14 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:47:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <003c01caa1d2$889ff970$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <67865e072fac5ad31378c0ba1f1e3751.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<3178CA1C-65F6-4D64-8BEF-57C621359688@rustyiron.com>
	<003c01caa1d2$889ff970$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <82bf28e88f88a25cfde7d4461e53ace6.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

This from a guy who loves Miller Swill, er, Chill.
Need I say more?

On Sat, January 30, 2010 12:34 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> I think I'm gonna heave.....  all that "best of" is making me reel.....





From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Jan 30 11:53:59 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:53:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <D4DC8DA7-B8A0-40F3-B03E-08403F96197A@rustyiron.com>
References: <14E25ACC58C745919BE5D9C83F267230@tommydk7hxjr4h>
	<D4DC8DA7-B8A0-40F3-B03E-08403F96197A@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <dd27cf083221a548ec6b270168da25a9.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Rob,

Having enjoyed both, my vote is with the Woodford Reserve.  In fact I think I'll
sample some this evening and raise a toast to Mike's good health.

See ya,  Arnie

On Sat, January 30, 2010 1:33 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:

> Next on the agenda is a side-by-side of Maker's Mark and Woodford
> Reserve, the preferred libation of that engineman from Versailles.




From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sat Jan 30 12:04:40 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 15:04:40 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <D4DC8DA7-B8A0-40F3-B03E-08403F96197A@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <80CB05FEB1C74EDDA2241ABA4B542AB1@tommydk7hxjr4h>

Rob,
        Problem is, I don't drink the stuff.  I'm basing this just on
what I've been "told" by those who sample it by the barrel. Well, at
least some of them look like they've had a barrel of it.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY





Hi, Tommy.

Perhaps what you say is true, but I still think mine is better.  Let's 
settle this disagreement is like gentlemen.  I'll ante up an engine, 
and you ante up an engine, just to make the contest interesting.  I'll 
quaff a pint of my local liquid refreshment, and then you'll quaff a 
pint of yours.  The better refreshment will be determined when the 
opposition decides that he's had enough of his own, and concedes.

Rob



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From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Sat Jan 30 12:55:19 2010
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 15:55:19 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
References: <67865e072fac5ad31378c0ba1f1e3751.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <075f01caa1ee$88677390$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>

I've never met the proprietor of Rust Belt Brewing, but we have emailed once 
and when spring comes I hope to show him the engine.

I certainly would like to see them make a "Tod Engine Beer".That would be so 
cool, although I do not partake of the alcohol based beverages.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; <slick at toltbbs.com>; 
<sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:24 AM
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew


> Hi Folks,
>
> Wanna join a movement?  I read this really interesting article about a 
> microbrewery
> in Youngstown, Ohio located within spitting distance of the Tod Engine.
> http://www.todengine.org/
>
> It's the Rust Belt Brewing Company.  http://www.rustybrew.com/
> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031442-389.stm
>
> The first thought that came to mind was that the Tod Engine would make for 
> an
> awesome label for one of their brews (a steam beer perhaps?).
>
> The second thought that came to mind was that Rusty Brew could become the 
> signature
> beer for the stationary engine fans!
>
> So, check 'em out, drop 'em a line at rustybrew at gmail.com, or join 'em on 
> FaceBook.
> I'd really like to see that Tod Engine beer!!
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> PS - If you're in the neighborhood of the Tod Engine, check out the 
> establishment
> that's been voted No. 2 best beer retailer in the world.
> http://www.vintage-estate.com
>
> Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031444-389.stm
>
>
>
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From mr at carolina.rr.com  Sat Jan 30 14:03:43 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:03:43 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
References: <14E25ACC58C745919BE5D9C83F267230@tommydk7hxjr4h><D4DC8DA7-B8A0-40F3-B03E-08403F96197A@rustyiron.com>
	<dd27cf083221a548ec6b270168da25a9.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <004c01caa1f8$171899d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

As we say all over the world in the universal toast, HTMH!!!!!!!!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew


> Rob,
>
> Having enjoyed both, my vote is with the Woodford Reserve.  In fact I 
> think I'll
> sample some this evening and raise a toast to Mike's good health.
>
> See ya,  Arnie
>
> On Sat, January 30, 2010 1:33 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:
>
>> Next on the agenda is a side-by-side of Maker's Mark and Woodford
>> Reserve, the preferred libation of that engineman from Versailles.
>
>
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> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel 



From mr at carolina.rr.com  Sat Jan 30 14:04:19 2010
From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:04:19 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
References: <67865e072fac5ad31378c0ba1f1e3751.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><3178CA1C-65F6-4D64-8BEF-57C621359688@rustyiron.com><003c01caa1d2$889ff970$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
	<82bf28e88f88a25cfde7d4461e53ace6.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <005301caa1f8$2bee0160$0201a8c0@mikecomp>

It was free, it was for me!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew


> This from a guy who loves Miller Swill, er, Chill.
> Need I say more?
> 
> On Sat, January 30, 2010 12:34 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
>> I think I'm gonna heave.....  all that "best of" is making me reel.....
> 
> 
> 
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From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Jan 30 14:26:35 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:26:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <004c01caa1f8$171899d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <14E25ACC58C745919BE5D9C83F267230@tommydk7hxjr4h><D4DC8DA7-B8A0-40F3-B03E-08403F96197A@rustyiron.com>
	<dd27cf083221a548ec6b270168da25a9.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<004c01caa1f8$171899d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <8102588195e1e7c918edc56e7bc89974.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Here's To Missy Holland ????

On Sat, January 30, 2010 5:03 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
> As we say all over the world in the universal toast, HTMH!!!!!!!!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
>>
>> Having enjoyed both, my vote is with the Woodford Reserve.  In fact I
>> think I'll sample some this evening and raise a toast to Mike's good health.
>>
>> On Sat, January 30, 2010 1:33 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:
>>> Next on the agenda is a side-by-side of Maker's Mark and Woodford
>>> Reserve, the preferred libation of that engineman from Versailles.




From rotigel at me.com  Sat Jan 30 14:21:45 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:21:45 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <005301caa1f8$2bee0160$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
References: <67865e072fac5ad31378c0ba1f1e3751.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<3178CA1C-65F6-4D64-8BEF-57C621359688@rustyiron.com>
	<003c01caa1d2$889ff970$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
	<82bf28e88f88a25cfde7d4461e53ace6.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<005301caa1f8$2bee0160$0201a8c0@mikecomp>
Message-ID: <7B320123-5BEB-4C1B-9A57-CBFA939FDC34@me.com>

There is ONLY one reason for drinking beer--and NO MATTER WHAT anyone  
tells you, it's NOT for the taste!
	Dave

On Jan 30, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Mike Royster wrote:

> It was free, it was for me!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
>
>
>> This from a guy who loves Miller Swill, er, Chill.
>> Need I say more?
>>
>> On Sat, January 30, 2010 12:34 pm, Mike Royster wrote:
>>> I think I'm gonna heave.....  all that "best of" is making me  
>>> reel.....
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com
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From rob at rustyiron.com  Sat Jan 30 14:29:39 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:29:39 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <80CB05FEB1C74EDDA2241ABA4B542AB1@tommydk7hxjr4h>
References: <80CB05FEB1C74EDDA2241ABA4B542AB1@tommydk7hxjr4h>
Message-ID: <E18C0F6B-25D4-4294-BED7-A0D4535A3F20@rustyiron.com>


On Jan 30, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:
>
>        Problem is, I don't drink the stuff.


SHUCKS!  I thought I had a sure fire plan to "pull a Royster" on you  
and help you divest yourself of that ol' H&R engine of yours.








From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sat Jan 30 14:51:59 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:51:59 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <E18C0F6B-25D4-4294-BED7-A0D4535A3F20@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <B4CA9181B8174C0487E9B5F6D6D83790@tommydk7hxjr4h>

Rob,
	I've learned a lot from the Roysters!  Dad used to tell me that
I'd learn my best lessons from something that burned me because you
don't forget pain.  Let me tell you, I've learned from them Royster
Boys....I'm still applying ointment!

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY

PS:  The H&R is in NC at the Roysters.....





On Jan 30, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:
>
>        Problem is, I don't drink the stuff.


SHUCKS!  I thought I had a sure fire plan to "pull a Royster" on you  
and help you divest yourself of that ol' H&R engine of yours.




From rob at rustyiron.com  Sat Jan 30 15:30:08 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 15:30:08 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <B4CA9181B8174C0487E9B5F6D6D83790@tommydk7hxjr4h>
References: <B4CA9181B8174C0487E9B5F6D6D83790@tommydk7hxjr4h>
Message-ID: <89DD289B-FA89-45EA-B080-EA4C3FD54136@rustyiron.com>

Seriously? That old pile of rust is now at the Roysters?  Suckers!
Rob




From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sat Jan 30 15:58:16 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:58:16 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <89DD289B-FA89-45EA-B080-EA4C3FD54136@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <89FBA933B46C479BA2C7584120C57A94@tommydk7hxjr4h>

No, just pulling your leg.  But, it they may get it on their next KY
trek!

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



-----Original Message-----
From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob
Skinner
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:30 PM
To: The SEL email discussion list
Subject: Re: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew


Seriously? That old pile of rust is now at the Roysters?  Suckers! Rob


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From falcon at telenet.net  Sat Jan 30 16:47:10 2010
From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:47:10 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <9e4e.24153813.3895e029@aol.com>
References: <9e4e.24153813.3895e029@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4B64D30E.7040602@telenet.net>

Germoamer at aol.com wrote:
>  
> In a message dated 1/30/2010 2:01:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
> falcon at telenet.net writes:
> 
> The plow  isn't made to cut completely through the ice sheet but to
> score it deep  enough that the cut guides the saw used later.
> 
> 
> Steve,
>  
> Could it also have been to cut a "crack line" that a wedge would have been  
> driven into and hit with a big hammer to break chunks off?  Just a  
> thought.  
>  
> 11 inches of snow and still falling!  
> 
> Tom  Schmutz
> Concord,  Va.
> germoamer at AOL.com

Tom,
 Not really. The ice has to be cut so it has square corners and straight
edges. Without them it is very hard to stack in the ice house. The plow
would cut down deep enough that the finish cutting was faster and straight.
Most ice houses were built to fit a certain number of blocks per layer
and each layer was stacked in a different direction to keep them stable.
Using a wedge would be faster, but there is no way to keep the cuts square.

-- 
Steve W.



From steve_royster at hotmail.com  Sat Jan 30 16:55:07 2010
From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:55:07 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <dd27cf083221a548ec6b270168da25a9.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
References: <14E25ACC58C745919BE5D9C83F267230@tommydk7hxjr4h>,
	<D4DC8DA7-B8A0-40F3-B03E-08403F96197A@rustyiron.com>,
	<dd27cf083221a548ec6b270168da25a9.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
Message-ID: <COL112-W23C2D7C0FAA0F1F70AF56295590@phx.gbl>


Rob, Rob, Rob, Yer drinking dregs man. The best of Kentucky is  Bookers, Bakers,& Basil Hayden!  For Scotch...... Nothing better than Lagavulin and Macallan Cask Strength.  As for what The Larue County Judge drinks, That last Royster visit had My brother spiking the Judges Diet Pepsi with some clear mountain juice called "First Run".  If ya know the secret, He's easy to trade with!  Steve, the good Royster

 


 
> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:53:59 -0500
> From: fero_ah at city-net.com
> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
> 
> Rob,
> 
> Having enjoyed both, my vote is with the Woodford Reserve. In fact I think I'll
> sample some this evening and raise a toast to Mike's good health.
> 
> See ya, Arnie
> 
> On Sat, January 30, 2010 1:33 pm, Rob Skinner wrote:
> 
> > Next on the agenda is a side-by-side of Maker's Mark and Woodford
> > Reserve, the preferred libation of that engineman from Versailles.
> 
> 
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From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sat Jan 30 17:39:39 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:39:39 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <COL112-W23C2D7C0FAA0F1F70AF56295590@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <3C44CFF5D35E4760A47DF2CE894B0F97@D2JYVHJ1>

AHA!  Now I know why I have a headache for a couple of days after a
visit from the NC version of the James gang!  And to think once when I
mentioned to Mike that I had a headache after he left he commented "must
have been from counting all that money I gave you".  Funny thing is, he
left a lot less than I paid for the old iron.

As for the Bookers brew, that's named for Booker Noe.  I knew Booker
well before his passing about 5 years ago (I wouldn't put it past him to
have slipped me a little something as well).  He was Jim Beam's Master
Brewer (and the original Jim Beam's grandson) and the one who held all
the mix and ingredients secrets.

This old country boy is learning the ropes!

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY




Rob, Rob, Rob, Yer drinking dregs man. The best of Kentucky is  Bookers,
Bakers,& Basil Hayden!  For Scotch...... Nothing better than Lagavulin
and Macallan Cask Strength.  As for what The Larue County Judge drinks,
That last Royster visit had My brother spiking the Judges Diet Pepsi
with some clear mountain juice called "First Run".  If ya know the
secret, He's easy to trade with!  Steve, the good Royster

 




From rob at rustyiron.com  Sat Jan 30 21:33:02 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:33:02 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <3C44CFF5D35E4760A47DF2CE894B0F97@D2JYVHJ1>
References: <3C44CFF5D35E4760A47DF2CE894B0F97@D2JYVHJ1>
Message-ID: <B2F10449-889C-4D46-9674-79F93FD6E4F8@rustyiron.com>

On Jan 30, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote:

> AHA!  Now I know why I have a headache for a couple of days after a
> visit from the NC version of the James gang!

Tommy,
Them boys are from North Carolina.  Consider yourself lucky if it's only
your head that hurts after waking up from a dose of the Royster Roofies.


  
  


From rob at rustyiron.com  Sat Jan 30 21:34:22 2010
From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:34:22 -0800
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <COL112-W23C2D7C0FAA0F1F70AF56295590@phx.gbl>
References: <14E25ACC58C745919BE5D9C83F267230@tommydk7hxjr4h>,
	<D4DC8DA7-B8A0-40F3-B03E-08403F96197A@rustyiron.com>,
	<dd27cf083221a548ec6b270168da25a9.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>
	<COL112-W23C2D7C0FAA0F1F70AF56295590@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <A4A04DAF-5470-4202-B52D-11CD7A8FDBF5@rustyiron.com>

With the endorsement of both you and the judge, Steve, I'm gonna give  
the Bookers a try.

	
Rob Skinner
Antique Stationary Engines
La Habra, California

rob at rustyiron.com
www.rustyiron.com





On Jan 30, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Steve Royster wrote:

>
> Rob, Rob, Rob, Yer drinking dregs man. The best of Kentucky is   
> Bookers, Bakers,& Basil Hayden!  For Scotch...... Nothing better  
> than Lagavulin and Macallan Cask Strength.  As for what The Larue  
> County Judge drinks, That last Royster visit had My brother spiking  
> the Judges Diet Pepsi with some clear mountain juice called "First  
> Run".  If ya know the secret, He's easy to trade with!  Steve, the  
> good Royster
>


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sat Jan 30 22:32:02 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 01:32:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <B2F10449-889C-4D46-9674-79F93FD6E4F8@rustyiron.com>
References: <3C44CFF5D35E4760A47DF2CE894B0F97@D2JYVHJ1>
	<B2F10449-889C-4D46-9674-79F93FD6E4F8@rustyiron.com>
Message-ID: <11caf018687ec04b4b2ce02dfdd5227c.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

ROFLMAO!!!  "Royster Roofies..."

On Sun, January 31, 2010 12:33 am, Rob Skinner wrote:

> Them boys are from North Carolina.  Consider yourself lucky if it's only
> your head that hurts after waking up from a dose of the Royster Roofies.





From gastzt at aol.com  Sun Jan 31 05:15:50 2010
From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 08:15:50 EST
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
Message-ID: <1e57.9c9343.3896dc86@aol.com>

GEEEeeeez!  MUST be good !  ha
 Stan Z
                   oldstovers


From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com  Sun Jan 31 06:43:08 2010
From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:43:08 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
References: <831209.78319.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <080301caa283$b4586d70$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>

Arnie,

Your email worked.  Rust Belt Brewing is interested in making a Tod Engine 
Beer, and we are going to discuss it in the spring.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Grimley" <bgrimley at bellsouth.net>
To: "The SEL email discussion list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew


> Rob;
> Have you seen this website? Check out numbers 1 thru 4 - - - think those 
> are east of MS.
> Bill
>
> http://ratebeer.com/Ratebeerbest/table_2010.asp?title=Best+Beers+of+the+United+States+2010&file=usa_beer_2010.csv
>
> --- On Sat, 1/30/10, Rob Skinner <rob at rustyiron.com> wrote:
>
> From: Rob Skinner <rob at rustyiron.com>
> Subject: Re: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
> To: "Arnie Fero" <fero_ah at city-net.com>
> Cc: "SEL ATIS" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>, "Oldengine.org" 
> <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>
> Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 11:37 AM
>
> It appears that you might have discovered a new party spot for Tod
> enthusiasts when they visit the engine. And it looks like Rick has
> already set up some kind of mutually beneficial agreement between
> himself and the brewery?check the web page. Honestly, though, I
> seriously doubt that anyone can brew good beer east of the Rockies.
> Don't feel badly about it, though, it's the result of tradition.
>
> As you know, the best engines in the world were built here in
> California. In order to lure the best engineers, the best foundrymen,
> and the best machinists, engine manufacturers were forced to establish
> a brewing infrastructure based upon the world's finest hops, the most
> skilled brewmasters, and the most sophisticated breweries, which all
> produced the worlds best beer. Now it's a tradition that has been
> passed down from generation to generation of western brewers.
>
> So, Arnie, how many gallons per week is the current fee for
> experienced shills?
>
>
> Rob Skinner
> Antique Stationary Engines
> La Habra, California
>
> rob at rustyiron.com
> www.rustyiron.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Arnie Fero wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Wanna join a movement? I read this really interesting article about
>> a microbrewery
>> in Youngstown, Ohio located within spitting distance of the Tod
>> Engine.
>> http://www.todengine.org/
>>
>> It's the Rust Belt Brewing Company. http://www.rustybrew.com/
>> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031442-389.stm
>>
>> The first thought that came to mind was that the Tod Engine would
>> make for an
>> awesome label for one of their brews (a steam beer perhaps?).
>>
>> The second thought that came to mind was that Rusty Brew could
>> become the signature
>> beer for the stationary engine fans!
>>
>> So, check 'em out, drop 'em a line at rustybrew at gmail.com, or join
>> 'em on FaceBook.
>> I'd really like to see that Tod Engine beer!!
>>
>> See ya, Arnie
>>
>> PS - If you're in the neighborhood of the Tod Engine, check out the
>> establishment
>> that's been voted No. 2 best beer retailer in the world.
>> http://www.vintage-estate.com
>>
>> Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10028/1031444-389.stm
>>
>
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From rotigel at me.com  Sun Jan 31 07:19:28 2010
From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:19:28 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <080301caa283$b4586d70$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>
References: <831209.78319.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<080301caa283$b4586d70$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>
Message-ID: <2C41429B-C947-47D2-B0FE-366BDFF5E8DA@me.com>

Sumbich, that means we will have it in time for Portland Beer tasting  
AND the ATIS Auction!
	Dave
PS, Could you get them to add that "This is the OFFICIAL BEER of the  
ATIS Stationary Engine List?"

On Jan 31, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Rick Rowlands wrote:

> Arnie,
>
> Your email worked.  Rust Belt Brewing is interested in making a Tod  
> Engine
> Beer, and we are going to discuss it in the spring.
>
> Rick


From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com  Sun Jan 31 07:33:02 2010
From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:33:02 EST
Subject: [SEL] Fuel pump help needed
Message-ID: <4a6c.4457b9b0.3896fcae@aol.com>

I have a fuel pump that looks a lot like a IHC pump but not as big. The  
numbers on the pump are  K 229. 
Can anyone help out and identify this fuel pump? 
Thank You
KK


From fero_ah at city-net.com  Sun Jan 31 07:50:27 2010
From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:50:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
In-Reply-To: <080301caa283$b4586d70$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>
References: <831209.78319.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<080301caa283$b4586d70$6401a8c0@PC179134136174>
Message-ID: <0b52237705a1f976827426021ca047a0.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>

Rick, that's AWESOME news!!  Please keep us informed on the progress.
Who knows, maybe you can talk them into donating a piece of the profits to the Tod
Engine?  Oh, and I'm sure that it goes without saying...

If they need any taste-testers, you know how to reach us!  8-))

See ya,  Arnie

On Sun, January 31, 2010 9:43 am, Rick Rowlands wrote:

> Your email worked.  Rust Belt Brewing is interested in making a Tod Engine
> Beer, and we are going to discuss it in the spring.





From gastzt at aol.com  Sun Jan 31 08:15:35 2010
From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 11:15:35 EST
Subject: [SEL] Tod Engine Beer & Rusty Brew
Message-ID: <541b.2e1c3c47.389706a7@aol.com>

hey you guys--I SPECIALIZE-  in test-tasting---ha!   (especially SHINER 
BOCK)--
 Stan
   old stovers
Pleasanton, Tex


From Lcjudge at scrtc.com  Sun Jan 31 09:30:04 2010
From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turrner)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:30:04 -0500
Subject: [SEL] Fuel pump help needed
In-Reply-To: <4a6c.4457b9b0.3896fcae@aol.com>
Message-ID: <B45B4C2485AC4D3CA61F55512D90CFF4@ckcsdb40cdd57a>

Kevin,
	Send me a photo of it on my personal email address.  I may be
able to ID it.

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY



-----Original Message-----
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BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 10:33 AM
To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
Subject: [SEL] Fuel pump help needed

I have a fuel pump that looks a lot like a IHC pump but not as big. The

numbers on the pump are  K 229. 
Can anyone help out and identify this fuel pump? 
Thank You
KK
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From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 31 16:25:47 2010
From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:25:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
In-Reply-To: <4B632567.3050105@telenet.net>
Message-ID: <799570.96998.qm@web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I sure wish that was close enough that I could be there.
I have two ice saws.
One looks like a hand made one that should work good.
The other one appears to be an ice blade for a log saw.
?
Log saw I have.
?
Alan in Michigan

--- On Fri, 1/29/10, Steve W. <falcon at telenet.net> wrote:


From: Steve W. <falcon at telenet.net>
Subject: [SEL] Ice harvest coming up next month
To: "ATIS LIST" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>, "Engine list" <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 1:13 PM


For anyone interested in how they used to keep things cold prior to the
refrigerator.

http://millersmillsny.com/

If it stays cold for the next couple of weeks they should get some good
ice this year.

Oh, if you plan on coming wear good boots. It gets wet on the ice at
times. A set of ice cleats isn't a bad idea either...

-- 
Steve W.

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From jd.kirkes at verizon.net  Sun Jan 31 16:26:39 2010
From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:26:39 -0800
Subject: [SEL] babbet
Message-ID: <9A3A1E9FADB441368BAA872D3D2FC370@Desktop>

Good babbet article
http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/babbet/babbet.html

Jim

Jim and Diane Kirkes
jd.kirkes at verizon.net