From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Dec 3 18:15:31 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 18:15:31 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Engine Articles 4 U Message-ID: <3588DBF3-EBC8-4E97-99AD-1E1F062ED88C@rustyiron.com> For a long time I've been wanting to add some stuff to the web page. My old layout was clunky and getting hard to manage, so I neglected the site entirely. Since we've had more than our share of rain over the past couple weeks, there was plenty of "indoors time," and I got the opportunity to tackle the problem. Most everything is the same as it's been for a while, but the biggest addition was some articles that might be of interest to SEL and OldEngine folks. http://rustyiron.com/articles.html From kosh at ncweb.com Fri Dec 3 21:50:20 2010 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 00:50:20 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Engine Articles 4 U In-Reply-To: <3588DBF3-EBC8-4E97-99AD-1E1F062ED88C@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20101204004915.043f4b50@ncweb.com> Very spiffy pages. Would have sworn they were PDF. ...really substantial content too! Dave Merchant At 09:15 PM 12/3/2010, you wrote: >For a long time I've been wanting to add some stuff to the web page. My >old layout was clunky and getting hard to manage, so I neglected the site >entirely. Since we've had more than our share of rain over the past >couple weeks, there was plenty of "indoors time," and I got the >opportunity to tackle the problem. > >Most everything is the same as it's been for a while, but the biggest >addition was some articles that might be of interest to SEL and OldEngine >folks. > >http://rustyiron.com/articles.html > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline." - Prof. Phil Jones - Director, Climatic Research Unit - School of Environmental Sciences - University of East Anglia - Norwich, UK - To: Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley, Malcolm Hughes From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com Fri Dec 3 23:59:46 2010 From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer) Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 07:59:46 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Engine Articles 4 U In-Reply-To: <3588DBF3-EBC8-4E97-99AD-1E1F062ED88C@rustyiron.com> References: <3588DBF3-EBC8-4E97-99AD-1E1F062ED88C@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Thanks Rob,liked the ageing tips. John > From: rob at rustyiron.com > Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 18:15:31 -0800 > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Engine Articles 4 U > > For a long time I've been wanting to add some stuff to the web page. My old layout was clunky and getting hard to manage, so I neglected the site entirely. Since we've had more than our share of rain over the past couple weeks, there was plenty of "indoors time," and I got the opportunity to tackle the problem. > > Most everything is the same as it's been for a while, but the biggest addition was some articles that might be of interest to SEL and OldEngine folks. > > http://rustyiron.com/articles.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jlb94 at juno.com Sat Dec 4 07:33:26 2010 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 15:33:26 GMT Subject: [SEL] Engine Articles 4 U Message-ID: <20101204.103326.22027.2@webmail22.vgs.untd.com> Nice site Rob, Very informative and easy to navigate. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "Merry Christmas, (_o_) Happy New Year" ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Rob Skinner To: "Oldengine.org" , Stationary-Engine ATIS Subject: [SEL] Engine Articles 4 U Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 18:15:31 -0800 For a long time I've been wanting to add some stuff to the web page. My old layout was clunky and getting hard to manage, so I neglected the site entirely. Since we've had more than our share of rain over the past couple weeks, there was plenty of "indoors time," and I got the opportunity to tackle the problem. Most everything is the same as it's been for a while, but the biggest addition was some articles that might be of interest to SEL and OldEngine folks. http://rustyiron.com/articles.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ SHOCKING: Samsung 46" 3D LED TV for $84.95 SPECIAL REPORT: High ticket items are being auctioned for an incredible 90% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4cfa5fae223085c5fbcst02vuc From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Dec 4 09:16:13 2010 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 12:16:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Engine Articles 4 U In-Reply-To: <3588DBF3-EBC8-4E97-99AD-1E1F062ED88C@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Very nice Rob. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:16 PM To: Oldengine.org; Stationary-Engine ATIS Subject: [SEL] Engine Articles 4 U For a long time I've been wanting to add some stuff to the web page. My old layout was clunky and getting hard to manage, so I neglected the site entirely. Since we've had more than our share of rain over the past couple weeks, there was plenty of "indoors time," and I got the opportunity to tackle the problem. Most everything is the same as it's been for a while, but the biggest addition was some articles that might be of interest to SEL and OldEngine folks. http://rustyiron.com/articles.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3294 - Release Date: 12/03/10 07:34:00 From rotigel at me.com Sat Dec 4 13:44:27 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 16:44:27 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Engine Articles 4 U In-Reply-To: <3588DBF3-EBC8-4E97-99AD-1E1F062ED88C@rustyiron.com> References: <3588DBF3-EBC8-4E97-99AD-1E1F062ED88C@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <8AE5B25A-9596-42D1-B0C1-4E0789009975@me.com> "...never been a strong writer" ???????????? BULL SHIT! Dave On Dec 3, 2010, at 9:15 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > For a long time I've been wanting to add some stuff to the web > page. My old layout was clunky and getting hard to manage, so I > neglected the site entirely. Since we've had more than our share of > rain over the past couple weeks, there was plenty of "indoors time," > and I got the opportunity to tackle the problem. > > Most everything is the same as it's been for a while, but the > biggest addition was some articles that might be of interest to SEL > and OldEngine folks. > > http://rustyiron.com/articles.html From dombros2 at clearmail.com.au Sun Dec 5 11:11:24 2010 From: dombros2 at clearmail.com.au (Ted & Sue Domeney) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 06:11:24 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Engine Articles 4U Message-ID: Thanks for the updated posting Rob, good stuff. Interested to see the story on Bean sprayers. I used them for many years, and theres two wrecks down the yard somewhere :-( I didn't realise the Bean Company started so early. I've only ever seen machines built post WWII in Australia. (But happy to be proved wrong!). They took a strong share of the market in the 1950s athrough 1970s. Thanks again Teddy From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Dec 5 13:53:58 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 21:53:58 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question Message-ID: We've got the trailer building hat on, and are looking at a new trailer, partly to carry the Ruston 1ZHR and also to provide a comfortable living area for us while we are at rallies/shows. In the UK, most folks go camping if they cannot bring a caravan along, as local hotels etc are pretty expensive. The overall length of the body is just over 6.6 metres or just over 21 feet. It will have three axles in a drawbar/front steering axle configuration, maximum weight is 3.5 tons all-up. We are allowed 7 metres for the class of towing vehicle that we have. So, we are limited to overrun braking (surge brakes) and probably mechanical. The front steering axle rotates on its centre pivot, the two axles at the back are in tandem and fixed to the chassis. To provide equalised braking, we have to fit two compensators, one between the front axle and the rear two axles, mechanically weighted to allow double the braking effort to go to the rear axles, and then another equaliser/compensator between the rear axles. To get an idea of the layout, see this image: http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Drawbar1Iss3.jpg What we are thinking about is the type of braking linkage: 1) Do we go for full hydraulic? Possible but nothing is type-approved. 2) Cables? Easier but they take a lot of maintenance unless you get the newer stainless types. 3) Rods and swivels? Less maintenance and friction, don't know if the parts are still made. Electric brakes are not approved in the EC, we have already looked into that one. With new-build trailers likely to need annual testing soon, we want to make sure that what we build isn't going to be a PITA to look after or get through its annual test, as and when that happens. The front axle pivots on a 75mm vertical steel bar which runs in two large flanged self-aligning bearings, with a thrust ball race taking the vertical loading. Any thought would be appreciated. Half a ton of box section is at the machine shop waiting for a few clear days.... The main body is going to be standard truck body extrusions in ali, with honeycomb sandwich side panelling. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rotigel at me.com Sun Dec 5 15:12:31 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 18:12:31 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46D57E1D-6C99-4BDE-B4D8-3267E8CD1B5B@me.com> Hi Peter, If you are allowed 7 meters, why make the trailer 6.6 meters? Dave PS, At least make it 6.66 meters! PPS, Electric brakes would be the way to go. Sorry 'bout your laws! PPPS, What kind of gun does Rita carry? On Dec 5, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Listerdiesel wrote: > We've got the trailer building hat on, and are looking at a new > trailer, partly to carry the Ruston 1ZHR and also to provide a > comfortable living area for us while we are at rallies/shows. In the > UK, most folks go camping if they cannot bring a caravan along, as > local hotels etc are pretty expensive. > > The overall length of the body is just over 6.6 metres or just over 21 > feet. It will have three axles in a drawbar/front steering axle > configuration, maximum weight is 3.5 tons all-up. We are allowed 7 > metres for the class of towing vehicle that we have. > > So, we are limited to overrun braking (surge brakes) and probably > mechanical. The front steering axle rotates on its centre pivot, the > two axles at the back are in tandem and fixed to the chassis. > > To provide equalised braking, we have to fit two compensators, one > between the front axle and the rear two axles, mechanically weighted > to allow double the braking effort to go to the rear axles, and then > another equaliser/compensator between the rear axles. > > To get an idea of the layout, see this image: > > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/ > Drawbar1Iss3.jpg > > What we are thinking about is the type of braking linkage: > > 1) Do we go for full hydraulic? Possible but nothing is type- > approved. > 2) Cables? Easier but they take a lot of maintenance unless you get > the newer stainless types. > 3) Rods and swivels? Less maintenance and friction, don't know if the > parts are still made. > > Electric brakes are not approved in the EC, we have already looked > into that one. > > With new-build trailers likely to need annual testing soon, we want to > make sure that what we build isn't going to be a PITA to look after or > get through its annual test, as and when that happens. > > The front axle pivots on a 75mm vertical steel bar which runs in two > large flanged self-aligning bearings, with a thrust ball race taking > the vertical loading. > > Any thought would be appreciated. Half a ton of box section is at the > machine shop waiting for a few clear days.... The main body is going > to be standard truck body extrusions in ali, with honeycomb sandwich > side panelling. > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Dec 5 21:25:23 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 00:25:23 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Why? That's just stupid. On Sun, December 5, 2010 4:53 pm, Listerdiesel wrote: > > Electric brakes are not approved in the EC, we have already looked > into that one. From sewell at ohio.edu Sun Dec 5 21:54:11 2010 From: sewell at ohio.edu (Steve Sewell) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 00:54:11 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19B99D227A7E2127EED968AD@[192.168.1.101]> > Electric brakes are not approved in the EC, we have already looked > into that one. > Peter: A good idea as Lucas Electric is made over there. Could you use them if I sent you brakes and a controller?? I would never pull a trailer without electric or air (big truck) brakes. _steve From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Dec 6 01:32:07 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 09:32:07 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: <19B99D227A7E2127EED968AD@192.168.1.101> References: <19B99D227A7E2127EED968AD@192.168.1.101> Message-ID: On 6 December 2010 05:54, Steve Sewell wrote: > Peter: A good idea as Lucas Electric is made over there. Could you use them > if I sent you brakes and a controller?? I would never pull a trailer > without electric or air (big truck) brakes. > > _steve Hi Steve: Nothing wrong with Lucas kit, as long as you buy the right parts. Most of their bad reputation came from components made for the mass market car manufacturers who wouldn't pay for a decent product. The Italians and French also had the same problems. Rolls-Royce used Lucas almost exclusively and had very little trouble, but they paid the right price for what they wanted. Thanks for the offer on the brakes, but as I said in the first post, we are introducing annual testing for trailers, and while it is not likely to look at type-tested components, I don't want to take the chance of having problems. The Australian disc electric brakes look good, but again we cannot use them. Air is an option on trailers below 3.5 tons and compulsory over 3.5 tons. I did look fleetingly at that, but the additional hassle of a compressor and air tanks and proportional sensing/control valves made it look a little awkward to implement, although with the standard brakes it would be fairly easily hooked up, especially with a small spring brake for parking. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From bill at antique-engines.com Mon Dec 6 06:07:56 2010 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 06:07:56 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8477139ddfa58d13cc73f12c4a2d4cfe.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> No kidding - what's up with no electric brakes? Why? I bought a new trailer this past spring - smartest thing I did - sell my old one with NO brakes and get one with brakes on both axles. I found it a DREAM to pull, and the brakes saved my bacon once already. I got a 20 footer for less than the price of a new 18 footer because it was "last years model" It's a bit far forward on this picture (should be back a few inches IMO), but my neighbor loaded it up for me since at that time, my bicep tendon wasn't connected to the bone yet.... http://theamcpages.com/images/javelin/jav-on-trailer-030.jpg My F20 will JUST fit (it's wide), the fenders pop off in minutes, of course the current battery backup for the electric brakes and all. I've made sides so I can load up engines and strap 'em in, and with it lower to the ground, loading them will be much easier than my bed-over-wheels trailer was. Bill > Why? That's just stupid. > > On Sun, December 5, 2010 4:53 pm, Listerdiesel wrote: >> >> Electric brakes are not approved in the EC, we have already looked >> into that one. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Mon Dec 6 07:33:10 2010 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 07:33:10 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question References: Message-ID: <357A27347E5E40BB9640F9A74C091689@Desktop> Hi Peter, since you can't have electric and don't like hydraulic it is pretty well narrows your options. If you bought a commercial trailer what kind of brakes would it be equipped with? Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes jd.kirkes at verizon.net From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Dec 6 09:07:06 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 17:07:06 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: <357A27347E5E40BB9640F9A74C091689@Desktop> References: <357A27347E5E40BB9640F9A74C091689@Desktop> Message-ID: On 6 December 2010 15:33, Jim Kirkes wrote: > Hi Peter, since you can't have electric and don't like > hydraulic it is pretty well narrows your options. ?If you > bought a commercial trailer what kind of brakes would it be > equipped with? > > Jim Hi Jim: It isn't that I don't like hydraulic, it's just that there aren't any ready-made slave cylinders to adapt to the brake-cable-pull type of brakes that we already have on the axles, plus we have to provide a handbrake with an energy store (gas spring usually) which implies mechanical linksages. I will ask Meredith & Eyre about hydraulics, they 'may' have something that I missed when we bought the three axles. A commercial trailer of this size would have cable brakes. Jim #2 (Jim Dunmyer): I agree in principal, Jim, and rod brakes are a preferred option, with just a cable between the front equaliser which is on the swivelling front axle, and the tear of the trailer. The front axle can rotate over 90 degrees each way, so there has to be enough slack for the cable to be able to do its job and not get screwed up. As there is a step in the frame, the cable will probably go to a long vertical swivel that takes it down under the bottom of the step. It wouold be neat to drill holes all the way through the chassis cross-members and run it out of harm's way, but that's probably a hole too far :-)) I've got the pivot assembly mostly drawn up now, the 75mm steel (304 stainless probably) pivot pin and the bearings. I'll convert that into something I can post and that everyone can view. Thanks for the thoughts and comnments so far, we hope to be getting some welding experience with our MIG welder on this project. Our youngest son, Philip, has rebuilt his Land Rover chassis using it, and is now working on his older brother's Landy as well. After years of stick welding, MIG is a big surprise the first time out, but I am just about used to it now. It's a 250A Oerlikon semi-industrial machine, with Argon/CO2 mix for the gas. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Dec 6 09:18:29 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 17:18:29 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6 December 2010 13:46, Jim Dunmyer wrote: > That whole arrangement kinda scares me. Backing one of those rigs is just > like backing a farm wagon: possible, with a lot of practice, but not nearly > as easy as backing a regular trailer. I can see why it's done that way, as > your stated weight of 3.5 tons should have a 3/4 ton truck in front of it, > and you guys don't have those real handy, do you? > > Your plans for a living/sleeping area are good, that's done by many here. The Discovery is 2.2tons unladen, 2.8 or so with full passenger load. The trailer weight allowed with one driver and one passenger is 3.5 tons. Our own trailer should be about 1.2 tons empty and the Ruston on its trolley goes 1.8 tons. With a bit of care over weights as we build, we should be able to keep it below 3 tons. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Dec 6 09:20:40 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 17:20:40 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: <4CFD1A4D.70006@xplornet.com> References: <000601cb9520$1fb46800$5f1d3800$@net.au> <4CFD1A4D.70006@xplornet.com> Message-ID: On 6 December 2010 17:15, Rupert wrote: > ? ? ? ?Is that system approved for road use? It doesn't appear that the > front axle is steered so my first thoughts without further study are that > that system is dangerous. What will happen if one of the front wheel brakes > grabs harder than the other side? My thoughts are that would cause the front > axle to pivot causing a side pull on the towing vehicle. The side pull could > make it very interesting indeed in slippery road conditions. > > Rupert Are you referring to the trailer drawing or the brake layout, Rupert? On both cases, the front axle is a centre-pivot type, Ackerman steering is not that nice to tow on a trailer. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Dec 6 10:31:40 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 18:31:40 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: <4CFD2296.7040307@xplornet.com> References: <000601cb9520$1fb46800$5f1d3800$@net.au> <4CFD1A4D.70006@xplornet.com> <4CFD2296.7040307@xplornet.com> Message-ID: On 6 December 2010 17:51, Rupert wrote: > ? ? ? ?I'm referring to the brake layout. The hitch appears to be attached > to the main frame. It would be a different matter if the hitch is attached > to the front axle thus controlling it's swing. A center pivot front axle > that has brakes with not steering control would scare me. > > Rupert If you look at the top view in that image, it shows the drawbar brake arrangement from the side. The drawbar is attached to the sub-frame with the slewing ring and front axle on it, not the main trailer frame. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rotigel at me.com Mon Dec 6 11:19:25 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:19:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0EE2887C-CBAA-462F-9631-C6B2CA654B23@me.com> > Peter, Are you, then, talking about total weight (ie vehicle AND trailer) or the total weight of the trailer only (ie trailer plus the load on the trailer.)? If the former (and the vehicle weighs 2.2 tons unladen) you won't get much on the trailer before you are overweight! Dave > > The trailer weight allowed with one driver and one passenger is 3.5 > tons. > Peter From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Mon Dec 6 11:40:59 2010 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:40:59 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Trailer brakes - question Message-ID: "Electric brakes are not approved in the EC, we have already looked into that one." Those mechanical brakes, outlawed for years in the Colonies, should be ok. I mean, the earth is flat... The Oz electric discs would be da bomb, but they are out, too. We haven't seen mechanically-linked brakes since the Ford Model A. Seriously, I cannot conceive of a system more likely to NOT work than what you must contrive. This is a long way of saying "dunno how much help we on the other side of pond can be, given we have no experience with such kit". What would be on a new, factory built trailer of similar specification? Can that system be purchased as a kit? Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway From MaytagTwin at aol.com Mon Dec 6 12:24:12 2010 From: MaytagTwin at aol.com (MaytagTwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 15:24:12 EST Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question...Lucus Message-ID: <22b403.285815ea.3a2ea06c@aol.com> Hi Peter, Lucas certainly earned disrespect here in the U.S. I think their crowning moment was the TR6 which gained a reputation for catching fire while sitting parked in the driveway, compliments of Lucas electrical. Whether or not they were responsible, they did get the blame. Regards, Ron Carroll Clearmont, MO USA PS: Who knows the most Lucas jokes? Prince of darkness, warm beer, and on and on In a message dated 12/6/2010 3:35:29 AM Central Standard Time, listerdiesel at gmail.com writes: Nothing wrong with Lucas kit, as long as you buy the right parts. Most of their bad reputation came from components made for the mass market car manufacturers who wouldn't pay for a decent product. The Italians and French also had the same problems. Rolls-Royce used Lucas almost exclusively and had very little trouble, but they paid the right price for what they wanted. From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Dec 6 12:36:14 2010 From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:36:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] Trailer brakes - question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <772482.92025.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Doesn't someone make disc breaks for a trailer ?Ron Perma Frost ??http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos ? ? --- On Mon, 12/6/10, Bruce Younger wrote: From: Bruce Younger Subject: [SEL] Trailer brakes - question To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:40 PM "Electric brakes are not approved in the EC, we have already looked into that one." Those mechanical brakes, outlawed for years in the Colonies, should be ok.? I mean, the earth is flat...???The Oz electric discs would be da bomb, but they are out, too. We haven't seen mechanically-linked brakes since the Ford Model A.? Seriously, I cannot conceive of a system more likely to NOT work than what you must contrive.? This is a long way of saying "dunno how much help we on the other side of pond can be, given we have no experience with such kit". What would be on a new, factory built trailer of similar specification?? Can that system be purchased as a kit? Bruce Younger??? 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68??? Madison, SD? sluggo54 at hotmail.com??? "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted??? armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter."??? E. Hemingway ??? ???????? ?????? ??? ? _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Dec 6 12:37:49 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 20:37:49 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: <0EE2887C-CBAA-462F-9631-C6B2CA654B23@me.com> References: <0EE2887C-CBAA-462F-9631-C6B2CA654B23@me.com> Message-ID: On 6 December 2010 19:19, Dave Rotigel wrote: >> > Peter, Are you, then, talking about total weight (ie vehicle AND > trailer) or the total weight of the trailer only (ie trailer plus the > load on the trailer.)? If the former (and the vehicle weighs 2.2 tons > unladen) you won't get much on the trailer before you are overweight! > ? ? ? ?Dave Sorry for my bad wording, Dave: The vehicle can weigh up to 2.8tons, but not if you want to pull the maximum trailer weight of 3.5 tons. 2.4 tons vehicle weight plus 3..5tons trailer weight = 5.9 tons gross train weight is the maximum allowed. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Dec 6 12:56:17 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 20:56:17 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: <4CFD4908.000003.00688@FRED-AD0BF44E2E> References: <4CFD4908.000003.00688@FRED-AD0BF44E2E> Message-ID: On 6 December 2010 20:35, FrednAli wrote: > > G'day?all; > > The easiest way to back the trailer is to have a hitch on the front of the towing vehicle, and when at destination, reverse the vehicle?and connect the front hitch and then you can place the trailer anywhere, steering the trailer this way, can out turn the front axle and you can see where you are going with a little assistance, have done this with dog trailers many times. > > My two bobs worth. > > Cheers > > Fred That's what most truckers do as well, Fred, we have a front-mounted quick-disconnect towball and hitch on the wish-list. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Dec 6 13:03:09 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 21:03:09 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question...Lucus In-Reply-To: <22b403.285815ea.3a2ea06c@aol.com> References: <22b403.285815ea.3a2ea06c@aol.com> Message-ID: On 6 December 2010 20:24, wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > Lucas certainly earned disrespect here in the ?U.S. ?I think their crowning > moment was the TR6 which gained a reputation ?for catching fire while > sitting parked in the driveway, compliments of Lucas ?electrical. ?Whether or not > they were responsible, they did get the ?blame. > Regards, > Ron Carroll There's worse than that if you look around, but generally I think they were unfairly singled out. If you want an interesting read, try and get hold of the Lucas history, it's in 2 volumes, green hardbacks, and really worth the money: "Lucas, The First Hundred Years', Harold Nockolds, published by David & Charles Ltd., 1976. ISBN 0 7153 7306 4, Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rfinksr at verizon.net Mon Dec 6 15:41:21 2010 From: rfinksr at verizon.net (rfinksr) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 18:41:21 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Trailer brakes - question References: <772482.92025.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6F45AB41491A4F0B974BD22756168B61@RichardFinkSr> Ron i will chime in on that one. I have a home built trailer total gross weight 5 tons.It has disk brakes on all four wheeles from a 1 ton chevy truck. surge system.it works good i think. just a pain to put in the lock out pin when backing up. Don't know if it is any thing like what Peter is explaining. R Fink PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Frost" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Trailer brakes - question Doesn't someone make disc breaks for a trailer Ron Perma Frost http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos --- On Mon, 12/6/10, Bruce Younger wrote: From: Bruce Younger Subject: [SEL] Trailer brakes - question To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:40 PM "Electric brakes are not approved in the EC, we have already looked into that one." Those mechanical brakes, outlawed for years in the Colonies, should be ok. I mean, the earth is flat... The Oz electric discs would be da bomb, but they are out, too. We haven't seen mechanically-linked brakes since the Ford Model A. Seriously, I cannot conceive of a system more likely to NOT work than what you must contrive. This is a long way of saying "dunno how much help we on the other side of pond can be, given we have no experience with such kit". What would be on a new, factory built trailer of similar specification? Can that system be purchased as a kit? Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rwenig2 at xplornet.com Mon Dec 6 16:41:04 2010 From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 17:41:04 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Trailer brakes - question In-Reply-To: <6F45AB41491A4F0B974BD22756168B61@RichardFinkSr> References: <772482.92025.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <6F45AB41491A4F0B974BD22756168B61@RichardFinkSr> Message-ID: <4CFD82A0.2060707@xplornet.com> They do make disk brakes for trailers. See Rupert > > Doesn't someone make disc breaks for a trailer > -- yvt Rupert Wenig Camrose, Alberta, Canada. email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com http://users.xplornet.com/~rwenig/Home/ From rotigel at me.com Mon Dec 6 18:54:21 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 21:54:21 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: References: <0EE2887C-CBAA-462F-9631-C6B2CA654B23@me.com> Message-ID: <769E23D0-A35F-474F-9B0D-BBCC2DF05C8D@me.com> I now understand Peter. THANKS! Dave PS, Say HI to that good lookin gal with whom you sleep! On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Listerdiesel wrote: > On 6 December 2010 19:19, Dave Rotigel wrote: >>> >> Peter, Are you, then, talking about total weight (ie vehicle AND >> trailer) or the total weight of the trailer only (ie trailer plus the >> load on the trailer.)? If the former (and the vehicle weighs 2.2 tons >> unladen) you won't get much on the trailer before you are overweight! >> Dave > > Sorry for my bad wording, Dave: > > The vehicle can weigh up to 2.8tons, but not if you want to pull the > maximum trailer weight of 3.5 tons. > > 2.4 tons vehicle weight plus 3..5tons trailer weight = 5.9 tons gross > train weight is the maximum allowed. > > Peter From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Dec 7 00:21:16 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 08:21:16 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: References: <4CFD4908.000003.00688@FRED-AD0BF44E2E> <3d2b59b5c9eefdbb83fa0d6e8ac6d694.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: On 6 December 2010 21:00, Roland Craven wrote: > Sounds fascinating - is the hoola-hoop powder-coated or just galvanised? > ttfn > Roland Craven They are supplied in self colour or primer. The low-maintenance versions are probably painted on assembly by the trailer makers, the rubber lip seals wouldn't like going through a powder coating oven. There is a Jost pdf file for their own turntable rings here: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Misc/Jost_1.pdf We are not using that type of pivot on our own trailer. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Dec 7 00:23:08 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 08:23:08 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: <769E23D0-A35F-474F-9B0D-BBCC2DF05C8D@me.com> References: <0EE2887C-CBAA-462F-9631-C6B2CA654B23@me.com> <769E23D0-A35F-474F-9B0D-BBCC2DF05C8D@me.com> Message-ID: On 7 December 2010 02:54, Dave Rotigel wrote: > I now understand Peter. THANKS! > ? ? ? ?Dave > PS, Say HI to that good lookin gal with whom you sleep! > Rita says hello, there's a (small) chance that we might sneak over to Zolfo, as we missed our usual trip over in October. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Tue Dec 7 11:20:38 2010 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 13:20:38 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Lucas Message-ID: http://www.mez.co.uk/lucas.html Lucas Information The three position Lucas switch - Dim, Flicker and Off. Alexander Graham Bell invented the Telephone.Thomas Edison invented the Light Bulb. Joseph Lucas invented the Short Circuit. You can get replacement Lucas smoke on this site, as well. Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway From rotigel at me.com Tue Dec 7 16:12:13 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2010 19:12:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes/now Zolfo In-Reply-To: References: <0EE2887C-CBAA-462F-9631-C6B2CA654B23@me.com> <769E23D0-A35F-474F-9B0D-BBCC2DF05C8D@me.com> Message-ID: <9154EFD8-BE32-4378-93EB-BE7DA6D2FA69@me.com> It would be good to see both of you at Zolfo! I should be in my usual place--hope you can make it! Dave On Dec 7, 2010, at 3:23 AM, Listerdiesel wrote: > On 7 December 2010 02:54, Dave Rotigel wrote: >> I now understand Peter. THANKS! >> Dave >> PS, Say HI to that good lookin gal with whom you sleep! >> > > Rita says hello, there's a (small) chance that we might sneak over to > Zolfo, as we missed our usual trip over in October. > > Peter From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Dec 8 04:56:03 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 07:56:03 EST Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT Message-ID: <347bc.19a13293.3a30da63@aol.com> Motorola cell phone charger has quit working. I have an older Motorola cell phone charger with the same identical plug in to phone. Both have output of 5.0v---550ma. Anybody know why the older charger will not work on the newer phone? Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Dec 8 05:34:38 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 08:34:38 -0500 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: <347bc.19a13293.3a30da63@aol.com> Message-ID: <6D7C0058ACC74111AEDCD4CCCC3EDB51@laruecounty.courthouse> The new phones have a "proprietary" charger. The older ones will fit but won't charge the phone. You have to use the new model charger. I ran into the same problem with a phone I got for my son. We went on a trip and I took the old auto charger with us but while it fit, it wouldn't charge the phone. I went to the local phone store and they told me only the new Motorola chargers would work even though the outlet was exactly the same on the old and the new phones. It's a way to make you buy an item you didn't think you needed and for Motorola to make some more $$$$. The "official" reason behind it was that the mini USB cable, which fits the Motorola phones, would sometime carry the incorrect voltage as the mini USB's can be used for a variety of purposes. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Germoamer at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 7:56 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT Motorola cell phone charger has quit working. I have an older Motorola cell phone charger with the same identical plug in to phone. Both have output of 5.0v---550ma. Anybody know why the older charger will not work on the newer phone? Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3303 - Release Date: 12/07/10 From rotigel at me.com Wed Dec 8 05:45:20 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 08:45:20 -0500 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: <347bc.19a13293.3a30da63@aol.com> References: <347bc.19a13293.3a30da63@aol.com> Message-ID: <68B89A86-027E-4881-8DD2-25042812C96C@me.com> The money is made on the "add ons" and NOT on the phone itself! Dave On Dec 8, 2010, at 7:56 AM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > Motorola cell phone charger has quit working. I have an older > Motorola > cell phone charger with the same identical plug in to phone. Both > have > output of 5.0v---550ma. Anybody know why the older charger will > not work on the > newer phone? > > Thanks, > > Tom Schmutz From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Dec 8 06:22:57 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 09:22:57 -0500 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: <68B89A86-027E-4881-8DD2-25042812C96C@me.com> Message-ID: <0841FF8D54E845E3A4BEEF979181AA6C@laruecounty.courthouse> Dave, Its sort of like a local Case dealer used to tell my dad. The dealer sold the heck out of new construction equipment and had a big shop where he worked on them. He was always cheaper on the purchase than anyone else and my dad asked him how he did it. He said "I don't make much on the sale, I make it on the service". Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave Rotigel Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:45 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] cell phone charging OT The money is made on the "add ons" and NOT on the phone itself! Dave On Dec 8, 2010, at 7:56 AM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > Motorola cell phone charger has quit working. I have an older > Motorola > cell phone charger with the same identical plug in to phone. Both > have > output of 5.0v---550ma. Anybody know why the older charger will > not work on the > newer phone? > > Thanks, > > Tom Schmutz _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3303 - Release Date: 12/07/10 From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Dec 8 06:52:45 2010 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 06:52:45 -0800 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: <0841FF8D54E845E3A4BEEF979181AA6C@laruecounty.courthouse> References: <0841FF8D54E845E3A4BEEF979181AA6C@laruecounty.courthouse> Message-ID: We got new android based LG phones, APEX models. We had older LG phones, analog/digital no web, no android. The SAME cables, chargers, car charger, etc. works on both models. Can't say for motorola, but it really depends on the battery more than anything. We were told that anything using the mini-usb (like these do) will interchange. I suspected as much as after-all - USB ALL uses the same voltage and pins. Since the phones will connect to the computer's USB port via the same connector as the charger does, then any of their chargers will work with any of their phones, old or new. At least that's LG. Bill > Dave, > Its sort of like a local Case dealer used to tell my dad. The > dealer sold the heck out of new construction equipment and had a big > shop where he worked on them. He was always cheaper on the purchase > than anyone else and my dad asked him how he did it. He said "I don't > make much on the sale, I make it on the service". > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave > Rotigel > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:45 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] cell phone charging OT > > The money is made on the "add ons" and NOT on the phone itself! > Dave > > On Dec 8, 2010, at 7:56 AM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > >> Motorola cell phone charger has quit working. I have an older >> Motorola >> cell phone charger with the same identical plug in to phone. Both >> have >> output of 5.0v---550ma. Anybody know why the older charger will >> not work on the >> newer phone? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tom Schmutz > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3303 - Release Date: 12/07/10 > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Dec 8 07:40:32 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 10:40:32 EST Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT Message-ID: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> Bill, Tommy, Dave, Bit the bullet and plugged the old charger in the newer phone. So far it says it is charging without any complications. We shall see what happens. Worst thing can happen is that Millie will have to buy me a new phone for Christmas! Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From rotigel at me.com Wed Dec 8 08:48:00 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:48:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> References: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> Message-ID: Both the wall charger that I got with my LG a year ago AND the one that I had for my phone just before that have the same end on them. When either is plugged into the wall and the LG phone a message comes up (on the phone) that tells me it "may be" the wrong charger for the LG. Both have worked just fine for about a year now! Dave On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > Bill, Tommy, Dave, > > Bit the bullet and plugged the old charger in the newer phone. So > far it > says it is charging without any complications. We shall see what > happens. > Worst thing can happen is that Millie will have to buy me a new > phone for > Christmas! > > Thanks, > > Tom Schmutz From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Dec 8 09:46:29 2010 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 09:46:29 -0800 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: References: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> Message-ID: <6f9b6258f9ffdd870773e19468c8bae1.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> LG's marketing department talking there. They seem to have more authority than the research and development or engineers....... Bill > Both the wall charger that I got with my LG a year ago AND the one > that I had for my phone just before that have the same end on them. > When either is plugged into the wall and the LG phone a message comes > up (on the phone) that tells me it "may be" the wrong charger for the > LG. Both have worked just fine for about a year now! > Dave > > On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > >> Bill, Tommy, Dave, >> >> Bit the bullet and plugged the old charger in the newer phone. So >> far it >> says it is charging without any complications. We shall see what >> happens. >> Worst thing can happen is that Millie will have to buy me a new >> phone for >> Christmas! >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tom Schmutz > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Wed Dec 8 10:47:35 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 13:47:35 -0500 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: <6f9b6258f9ffdd870773e19468c8bae1.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> References: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> <6f9b6258f9ffdd870773e19468c8bae1.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <354BD6BC-0A7A-4D0F-A886-17DFFF72FA4A@me.com> The phone is one of the best I've ever owned! Dave On Dec 8, 2010, at 12:46 PM, bill at antique-engines.com wrote: > LG's marketing department talking there. They seem to have more > authority > than the research and development or engineers....... > > Bill > >> Both the wall charger that I got with my LG a year ago AND the one >> that I had for my phone just before that have the same end on them. >> When either is plugged into the wall and the LG phone a message comes >> up (on the phone) that tells me it "may be" the wrong charger for the >> LG. Both have worked just fine for about a year now! >> Dave >> >> On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: >> >>> Bill, Tommy, Dave, >>> >>> Bit the bullet and plugged the old charger in the newer phone. So >>> far it >>> says it is charging without any complications. We shall see what >>> happens. >>> Worst thing can happen is that Millie will have to buy me a new >>> phone for >>> Christmas! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Tom Schmutz >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Dec 8 10:49:23 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 18:49:23 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes/now Zolfo In-Reply-To: <9154EFD8-BE32-4378-93EB-BE7DA6D2FA69@me.com> References: <0EE2887C-CBAA-462F-9631-C6B2CA654B23@me.com> <769E23D0-A35F-474F-9B0D-BBCC2DF05C8D@me.com> <9154EFD8-BE32-4378-93EB-BE7DA6D2FA69@me.com> Message-ID: On 8 December 2010 00:12, Dave Rotigel wrote: > It would be good to see both of you at Zolfo! I should be in my usual > place--hope you can make it! > ? ? ? ?Dave > Would be nice to have a few days of sunshine, and have another look at the gorgeous Saturn IV rocket at NASA! We are stacked out with work at the factory after a really cr*p first half-year, the recent cold weather has done us proud! :-)) Mostly for the rail operators. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Dec 8 11:09:02 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 19:09:02 +0000 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: <354BD6BC-0A7A-4D0F-A886-17DFFF72FA4A@me.com> References: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> <6f9b6258f9ffdd870773e19468c8bae1.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> <354BD6BC-0A7A-4D0F-A886-17DFFF72FA4A@me.com> Message-ID: On 8 December 2010 18:47, Dave Rotigel wrote: > The phone is one of the best I've ever owned! > ? ? ? ?Dave Ours last about a year, then they get replaced. We get hay in the keyboard or screws/nuts & bolts in my pocket scratch the screen, especially the stainless stuff we use, that seems to be very abrasive. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Dec 8 11:35:19 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 21:35:19 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Lucas In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208212211.024e6ff8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 07:00 PM 08/12/2010, you wrote: >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 13:20:38 -0600 >From: Bruce Younger >Subject: [SEL] Lucas >To: > >http://www.mez.co.uk/lucas.html > >Lucas Information > >The three position Lucas switch - Dim, Flicker and Off. > >Alexander Graham Bell invented the Telephone.Thomas Edison invented the >Light Bulb. Joseph Lucas invented the Short Circuit. > >You can get replacement Lucas smoke on this site, as well. > >Bruce Younger > Hi Bruce, Yes, Lucas have for a long time been the target of jibes eg. Q:Why do the Brits drink warm beer A: Because Lucas built their refrigerators!! Much like the "lists" that we belong to - we tease the members that we love for two reasons: i) We love them! ii) They are great guys and take the "ribbing". All for now. Jerry From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Dec 8 11:46:21 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 21:46:21 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208214407.024ec258@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 07:00 PM 08/12/2010, Tom wrote: >From: Germoamer at aol.com >Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > >Motorola cell phone charger has quit working. I have an older Motorola >cell phone charger with the same identical plug in to phone. Both have >output of 5.0v---550ma. Anybody know why the older charger will not work >on the >newer phone? > >Thanks, > >Tom Schmutz > >From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >Subject: Re: [SEL] cell phone charging OT >To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" > >Message-ID: <6D7C0058ACC74111AEDCD4CCCC3EDB51 at laruecounty.courthouse> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >The new phones have a "proprietary" charger. The older ones will fit >but won't charge the phone. You have to use the new model charger. I >ran into the same problem with a phone I got for my son. We went on a >trip and I took the old auto charger with us but while it fit, it >wouldn't charge the phone. I went to the local phone store and they >told me only the new Motorola chargers would work even though the outlet >was exactly the same on the old and the new phones. It's a way to make >you buy an item you didn't think you needed and for Motorola to make >some more $$$$. The "official" reason behind it was that the mini USB >cable, which fits the Motorola phones, would sometime carry the >incorrect voltage as the mini USB's can be used for a variety of >purposes. > >Tommy Turner >Magnolia, KY > Quite Simple Tom, You just got screwed by "Big Business". !!! Jerry From rotigel at me.com Wed Dec 8 12:04:38 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:04:38 -0500 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208214407.024ec258@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208214407.024ec258@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: <3955C89D-D464-4E70-B78A-E9CBA27CEB42@me.com> >> The "official" reason behind it was that the mini USB >> cable, which fits the Motorola phones, would sometime carry the >> incorrect voltage as the mini USB's can be used for a variety of >> purposes. >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY > Quite Simple Tom, > You just got screwed by "Big Business". !!! > Jerry But unlike Big Government (and the TSA) at least he got a kiss! Dave From flywheel at netconnect.com.au Wed Dec 8 12:59:04 2010 From: flywheel at netconnect.com.au (Mark Kennedy) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 07:59:04 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Lucas In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208212211.024e6ff8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208212211.024e6ff8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: <871B283A-4411-47C3-B98D-6196E0109A06@netconnect.com.au> Lucas, better known as the 'Prince of Darkness'. ;) Mark On Dec 9, 2010, at 6:35 AM, Jerry Evans wrote: > At 07:00 PM 08/12/2010, you wrote: >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 13:20:38 -0600 >> From: Bruce Younger >> Subject: [SEL] Lucas >> To: >> >> http://www.mez.co.uk/lucas.html >> >> Lucas Information >> >> The three position Lucas switch - Dim, Flicker and Off. >> >> Alexander Graham Bell invented the Telephone.Thomas Edison invented >> the >> Light Bulb. Joseph Lucas invented the Short Circuit. >> >> You can get replacement Lucas smoke on this site, as well. >> >> Bruce Younger >> > > Hi Bruce, > Yes, Lucas have for a long time been the target of jibes eg. > Q:Why do the Brits drink warm beer > A: Because Lucas built their refrigerators!! > > Much like the "lists" that we belong to - we tease the members > that we love for two reasons: > > i) We love them! > ii) They are great guys and take the "ribbing". > > All for now. > Jerry > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Mark Kennedy Ballarat, Victoria, Australia Registrar for the WING Gauge & Instrument Co. http://www.oldengine.org/members/kennedy 'Training Down Under with the majesty of the South Australian Railways' All aboard the Pichi Richi Railway! http://www.prr.org.au/ *********************************************************** Important - This email and any attachments are confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any effected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender. From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Wed Dec 8 13:28:08 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 08:28:08 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Lucas References: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208212211.024e6ff8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> <871B283A-4411-47C3-B98D-6196E0109A06@netconnect.com.au> Message-ID: Best I heard was Lucas made vacuum cleaners. It was the only thing they made that didn't suck!! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Kennedy" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Lucas > Lucas, better known as the 'Prince of Darkness'. > > ;) > > Mark > From swilliams268 at frontier.com Wed Dec 8 14:09:22 2010 From: swilliams268 at frontier.com (Steve W.) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:09:22 -0500 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: References: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> <6f9b6258f9ffdd870773e19468c8bae1.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> <354BD6BC-0A7A-4D0F-A886-17DFFF72FA4A@me.com> Message-ID: <4D000212.4040905@frontier.com> Listerdiesel wrote: > On 8 December 2010 18:47, Dave Rotigel wrote: >> The phone is one of the best I've ever owned! >> Dave > > Ours last about a year, then they get replaced. We get hay in the > keyboard or screws/nuts & bolts in my pocket scratch the screen, > especially the stainless stuff we use, that seems to be very abrasive. > > Peter Install some of the screen protectors that you can get for IPod type devices. I did that on my new one because I couldn't get a good case for it. -- Steve W. (\___/) (='.'=) (")_(") From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Wed Dec 8 15:47:00 2010 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack Watson) Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 07:47:00 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Lucas In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208212211.024e6ff8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> <871B283A-4411-47C3-B98D-6196E0109A06@netconnect.com.au> Message-ID: <4D0018F4.4070404@optusnet.com.au> On 9/12/2010 5:28 AM, Reg Ingold wrote: > Best I heard was Lucas made vacuum cleaners. It was the only thing they made > that didn't suck!! > Reg& Marg Ingold > Newcastle NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au Just about all the Ford Model A owners I know have replaced their Ford distributors with Lucas. Jack From rotigel at me.com Wed Dec 8 15:53:58 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 18:53:58 -0500 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: <4D000212.4040905@frontier.com> References: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> <6f9b6258f9ffdd870773e19468c8bae1.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> <354BD6BC-0A7A-4D0F-A886-17DFFF72FA4A@me.com> <4D000212.4040905@frontier.com> Message-ID: <5445AC86-28C7-4066-865E-4A536EEED37E@me.com> Hi Steve, What is an IPod? Dave On Dec 8, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Steve W. wrote: > Listerdiesel wrote: >> On 8 December 2010 18:47, Dave Rotigel wrote: >>> The phone is one of the best I've ever owned! >>> Dave >> >> Ours last about a year, then they get replaced. We get hay in the >> keyboard or screws/nuts & bolts in my pocket scratch the screen, >> especially the stainless stuff we use, that seems to be very >> abrasive. >> >> Peter > > Install some of the screen protectors that you can get for IPod type > devices. I did that on my new one because I couldn't get a good case > for it. > > -- > Steve W. From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Dec 8 16:07:55 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 16:07:55 -0800 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> References: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> Message-ID: On Dec 8, 2010, at 7:40 AM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > Bit the bullet and plugged the old charger in the newer phone. So far it > says it is charging without any complications. We shall see what happens. > Worst thing can happen is that Millie will have to buy me a new phone for > Christmas! Well, Tom. I don't think that's the worst thing that can happen. It's funny you should use the word "bullet" in your last post. From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Dec 8 16:08:18 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 16:08:18 -0800 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> References: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> Message-ID: http://goo.gl/Qc2TV From rotigel at me.com Wed Dec 8 16:11:00 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:11:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Lucas In-Reply-To: <4D0018F4.4070404@optusnet.com.au> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208212211.024e6ff8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> <871B283A-4411-47C3-B98D-6196E0109A06@netconnect.com.au> <4D0018F4.4070404@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <6DF8C723-FA4C-4E04-ADDF-5CD4679BA5DC@me.com> I once owned a Lucas equipped car. For the four years that I owned it I NEVER had to put a dime into it. No oil changes, no rotoers, no NOTHING. I bought it new and four years later sold it with under 200 miles on it. Damn thing just sat in the drive--never could start the damn thing! Dave On Dec 8, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Jack Watson wrote: >> > Just about all the Ford Model A owners I know have replaced their Ford > distributors with Lucas. > > Jack From solarrog at pacbell.net Wed Dec 8 16:34:49 2010 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 16:34:49 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Lucas In-Reply-To: <6DF8C723-FA4C-4E04-ADDF-5CD4679BA5DC@me.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208212211.024e6ff8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za><871B283A-4411-47C3-B98D-6196E0109A06@netconnect.com.au><4D0018F4.4070404@optusnet.com.au> <6DF8C723-FA4C-4E04-ADDF-5CD4679BA5DC@me.com> Message-ID: Not everybody, My model is totally stock >> > On Dec 8, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Jack Watson wrote: >>> >> Just about all the Ford Model A owners I know have replaced their Ford >> distributors with Lucas. >> >> Jack Roger DiRuscio 510-226-2414 office R.E. Realty Experts 41051 Mission Blvd Fremont, Ca. 94539. NABPOP MEMBER Broker Associate # 615513 510-676-3122 cell 510-623-6979 fax REO-PRO, RDC-PRO, Equator, Resnet, & Equi-trak certified. GRI ----- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Dec 9 04:06:33 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 07:06:33 EST Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 Message-ID: <18db04.4a353a7c.3a322049@aol.com> Old charger working just fine so far on the newer phone. Guess I lucked out this time. BUT-lost my regular glasses yesterday somewhere between home and several stops in town and fixing friends garage door. Had sun glasses on, regular ones in a hard case in coat pocket, missing when I got home late in afternoon. Made a number of phone calls and went looking last night for them to no avail. Time to sell out and head for old folks home! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Dec 9 13:54:48 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 21:54:48 +0000 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <18db04.4a353a7c.3a322049@aol.com> References: <18db04.4a353a7c.3a322049@aol.com> Message-ID: On 9 December 2010 12:06, wrote: > BUT-lost my regular glasses yesterday somewhere between home and several > stops in town and fixing friends garage door. ?Had sun ?glasses on, regular > ones in a hard case in coat pocket, missing when I got home ?late in > afternoon. ?Made a number of phone calls and went looking last ?night for them to no > avail. > > Time to sell out and head for old folks home! Tom: we are ALL getting there, you are NOT alone! I'm OK when we aren't too busy, but things are hectic at present with a lot of railways work coming through, so I start to 'lose' my mobile (cell) phone and have to call the damm thing to find out where I left it :-(( I'm on 24-hour call for the railway and utility customers, so have to have the phone with me 24/7. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Dec 9 14:43:17 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 17:43:17 -0500 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 References: <18db04.4a353a7c.3a322049@aol.com> Message-ID: <007501cb97f2$7942eca0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> I have my checkbook ready to help you Tom!!!! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 > Old charger working just fine so far on the newer phone. Guess I lucked > out this time. > > BUT-lost my regular glasses yesterday somewhere between home and several > stops in town and fixing friends garage door. Had sun glasses on, > regular > ones in a hard case in coat pocket, missing when I got home late in > afternoon. Made a number of phone calls and went looking last night for > them to no > avail. > > Time to sell out and head for old folks home! > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Dec 9 16:50:58 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 19:50:58 EST Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 Message-ID: <13a1da.60e67d20.3a32d372@aol.com> In a message dated 12/9/2010 5:48:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, mr at carolina.rr.com writes: I have my checkbook ready to help you Tom!!!! You boys need to stay in the Kentucky area. Virginia back woods fellows are not as tolerant as the Kentucky fellows and more likely to use guns quicker! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From andyglines at hotmail.com Fri Dec 10 08:03:51 2010 From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 11:03:51 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Rosin Message-ID: I have read about you folks making your own belt dressing. I want to make some dressing but I can't find a ready supply of rosin to use in it. Where is a good place to find some rosin? From oldironnut at windstream.net Fri Dec 10 09:01:33 2010 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:01:33 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Rosin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6E616532-9B1E-447E-831A-FA9B5846CE5F@windstream.net> On Dec 10, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Andy Glines wrote: > > I have read about you folks making your own belt dressing. I want to make some dressing but I can't find a ready supply of rosin to use in it. Where is a good place to find some rosin? Know any bull riders? If so check with them but if not a rodeo supply store like has it. Mike From ab4zr at yahoo.com Fri Dec 10 10:15:25 2010 From: ab4zr at yahoo.com (David Brook) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 10:15:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <795614.5799.qm@web33502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You can find rosin at a music store. They have several types. Dave Brook Cary NC --- On Fri, 12/10/10, sel-request at lists.stationary-engine.com wrote: > From: sel-request at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 8 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Friday, December 10, 2010, 12:00 PM > Send SEL mailing list submissions to > ??? sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > ??? http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' > to > ??? sel-request at lists.stationary-engine.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ??? sel-owner at lists.stationary-engine.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific > than "Re: Contents of SEL digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > ???1. Re: SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 > (Listerdiesel) > ???2. Re: SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 (Mike > Royster) > ???3. Re: SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 (Germoamer at aol.com) > ???4. Rosin (Andy Glines) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 21:54:48 +0000 > From: Listerdiesel > Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 > To: The SEL email discussion list > Message-ID: > ??? > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On 9 December 2010 12:06,? > wrote: > > BUT-lost my regular glasses yesterday somewhere > between home and several > > stops in town and fixing friends garage door. ?Had sun > ?glasses on, regular > > ones in a hard case in coat pocket, missing when I got > home ?late in > > afternoon. ?Made a number of phone calls and went > looking last ?night for them to no > > avail. > > > > Time to sell out and head for old folks home! > > Tom:? we are ALL getting there, you are NOT alone! > > I'm OK when we aren't too busy, but things are hectic at > present with > a lot of railways work coming through, so I start to 'lose' > my mobile > (cell) phone and have to call the damm thing to find out > where I left > it :-(( > > I'm on 24-hour call for the railway and utility customers, > so have to > have the phone with me 24/7. > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 17:43:17 -0500 > From: "Mike Royster" > Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Message-ID: > <007501cb97f2$7942eca0$0201a8c0 at mikecomp> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; > charset="iso-8859-1"; > ??? reply-type=original > > I have my checkbook ready to help you Tom!!!! > > MR > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 7:06 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 > > > > Old charger working just fine so far on the newer > phone.? Guess I? lucked > > out this time. > > > > BUT-lost my regular glasses yesterday somewhere > between home and several > > stops in town and fixing friends garage door.? > Had sun? glasses on, > > regular > > ones in a hard case in coat pocket, missing when I got > home? late in > > afternoon.? Made a number of phone calls and went > looking last? night for > > them to no > > avail. > > > > Time to sell out and head for old folks home! > > > > Tom? Schmutz > > Concord,? Va. > > germoamer at AOL.com > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 19:50:58 EST > From: Germoamer at aol.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Message-ID: <13a1da.60e67d20.3a32d372 at aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > In a message dated 12/9/2010 5:48:13 PM Eastern Standard > Time,? > mr at carolina.rr.com > writes: > > I have? my checkbook ready to help you Tom!!!! > > > > You boys need to stay in the Kentucky area.? Virginia > back woods? fellows > are not as tolerant as the Kentucky fellows and more likely > to use guns? > quicker! > > > Tom? Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 11:03:51 -0500 > From: Andy Glines > Subject: [SEL] Rosin > To: stationary engine > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > I have read about you folks making your own belt > dressing.? I want to make some dressing but I can't > find a ready supply of rosin to use in it.? Where is a > good place to find some rosin? ??? > ???????? > ?????? ??? > ? > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > End of SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 8 > ********************************** > From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Dec 11 09:23:29 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 12:23:29 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 15 HP IH Crank Dia. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208212211.024e6ff8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: Can someone on the list tell me what the crankshaft diameter is on a 15 HP Famous (or Titan, same crankshaft). Thanks. Tommy From skipl130 at yahoo.com Sat Dec 11 12:03:56 2010 From: skipl130 at yahoo.com (Skip Landis) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 12:03:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] 15 HP IH Crank Dia. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <221261.39098.qm@web112409.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Tommy, probably not much help, but my titan parts book lists the length as 39 1/4" & they are all different lengths according to the book.? skip ________________________________ From: Judge Tommy Turner To: The SEL email discussion list Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 10:23:29 AM Subject: [SEL] 15 HP IH Crank Dia. Can someone on the list tell me what the crankshaft diameter is on a 15 HP Famous (or Titan, same crankshaft).? Thanks. Tommy _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Dec 11 18:02:01 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 21:02:01 -0500 Subject: [SEL] IH SN question In-Reply-To: <46D57E1D-6C99-4BDE-B4D8-3267E8CD1B5B@me.com> Message-ID: <022CB31C92B143C18AE9CDE8674D899D@ckcsdb40cdd57a> My Grandfather ran a roller mill in my small community in the teens and twenties. He had a large IH engine that was used to power the mill. I recently found some info and on it was written the SN of the engine: UL 274. Any of you that have the IH info can you tell me something about what the SN means? Thanks. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From christison at coastalnet.com Sat Dec 11 18:18:03 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 21:18:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] IH SN question In-Reply-To: <022CB31C92B143C18AE9CDE8674D899D@ckcsdb40cdd57a> References: <022CB31C92B143C18AE9CDE8674D899D@ckcsdb40cdd57a> Message-ID: <4D0430DB.4090704@coastalnet.com> Tommy, This is most likely a 20HP engine built between 1912 and 1917, but the list I have doesn't show the UL http://www.oldiron-nut.com/ihc-numbers/ihc-5-a.jpg These are from the IHC factory records that were printed in GEM some time back. Perhaps someone has come up with that letter designation since. Take care, Ken On 12/11/2010 9:02 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > My Grandfather ran a roller mill in my small community in the teens and > twenties. He had a large IH engine that was used to power the mill. I > recently found some info and on it was written the SN of the engine: UL > 274. Any of you that have the IH info can you tell me something about > what the SN means? Thanks. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sun Dec 12 07:55:19 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 07:55:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video Message-ID: <873132.35515.qm@web111721.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Howdy folks, It isn't very good but it is engine related. ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhOhYUL8HbA ? Alan in Michigan From rholtzer at earthlink.net Sun Dec 12 08:38:27 2010 From: rholtzer at earthlink.net (Robert L. Holtzer) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 08:38:27 -0800 Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <873132.35515.qm@web111721.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <873132.35515.qm@web111721.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D04FA83.7070007@earthlink.net> On 12/12/2010 7:55 AM, Alan wrote: > Howdy folks, > It isn't very good but it is engine related. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhOhYUL8HbA > > Alan in Michigan > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > Looks good to me! Congrats! From FRM8198 at aol.com Sun Dec 12 08:57:38 2010 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:57:38 EST Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video Message-ID: <1a6b67.d8fb9b0.3a365902@aol.com> Thanks for taking the time to document this event. Francis In a message dated 12/12/2010 8:36:11 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, rustaholic777 at yahoo.com writes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhOhYUL8HbA From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Sun Dec 12 09:59:42 2010 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 09:59:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <873132.35515.qm@web111721.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <511806.38535.qm@web112618.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> That was a real nice video, good to see the youngsters at a show doing something other than sitting in a lawn chair looking bored. Thanks for posting. Joe Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Alan wrote: From: Alan Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video To: "The SEL email discussion list" Cc: "Old Engine.Org List" Date: Sunday, December 12, 2010, 9:55 AM Howdy folks, It isn't very good but it is engine related. ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhOhYUL8HbA ? Alan in Michigan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sun Dec 12 10:57:13 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 10:57:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <511806.38535.qm@web112618.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <513322.33384.qm@web111710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Those girls were my helpers. I shot that vid in the evening. Most of the day those gals were in one of the apple crates filling bushel baskets with ear corn. The two closest ones are my Great Nieces and the far one is from a family that was displaying about?200 feet from us. All day during the show my sheller is very busy and?I wouldn't have time to shoot a video. Behind where I was standing was another sheller much like mine. I had asked another guy to set his up next to mine. Each sheller did one crate of corn per day. We had six of them to do. It was a blast. BTW, I have done a timed run with me feeding that sheller. If I had four folks with fast hands my sheller could do all six crates in less than a half hour. I would need two folks loading baskets and getting them to the sheller, one to feed the sheller and one to empty the corn and cobs. ? Alan in Michigan --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Joe Prindle wrote: From: Joe Prindle Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Sunday, December 12, 2010, 12:59 PM That was a real nice video, good to see the youngsters at a show doing something other than sitting in a lawn chair looking bored. Thanks for posting. Joe Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Alan wrote: From: Alan Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video To: "The SEL email discussion list" Cc: "Old Engine.Org List" Date: Sunday, December 12, 2010, 9:55 AM Howdy folks, It isn't very good but it is engine related. ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhOhYUL8HbA ? Alan in Michigan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ? ? ? _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From christison at coastalnet.com Sun Dec 12 14:52:19 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:52:19 -0500 Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <873132.35515.qm@web111721.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <873132.35515.qm@web111721.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D055223.90509@coastalnet.com> Great video, Alan! It is always fun to see the young folks involved in the hobby. Thanks for sharing. Do you have any other patent info for Mountville Mfg. Co.? My two hole sheller is obviously a later model, having a rounded cast piece with the name at the back end instead of the angular wood that is on the Hero. It also has a double geared drive mechanism on the hand crank side which is on the opposite side as your sheller. I have searched for this info several times and can't seem to find this model. Ken On 12/12/2010 10:55 AM, Alan wrote: > Howdy folks, > It isn't very good but it is engine related. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhOhYUL8HbA > > Alan in Michigan > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From jlb94 at juno.com Sun Dec 12 15:35:15 2010 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 23:35:15 GMT Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video Message-ID: <20101212.183515.23219.0@webmail08.vgs.untd.com> Nice job Ken, Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "Merry Christmas, (_o_) Happy New Year" ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Ken Christison To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:52:19 -0500 Great video, Alan! It is always fun to see the young folks involved in the hobby. Thanks for sharing. Do you have any other patent info for Mountville Mfg. Co.? My two hole sheller is obviously a later model, having a rounded cast piece with the name at the back end instead of the angular wood that is on the Hero. It also has a double geared drive mechanism on the hand crank side which is on the opposite side as your sheller. I have searched for this info several times and can't seem to find this model. Ken On 12/12/2010 10:55 AM, Alan wrote: > Howdy folks, > It isn't very good but it is engine related. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhOhYUL8HbA > > Alan in Michigan > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sun Dec 12 15:54:09 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 15:54:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <4D055223.90509@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: <762590.42082.qm@web111709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> After I made that video I did some google patent searching and I found this sheller wasn't made very long. What happened is there were three different companies in York, Pennsylvania making simular shellers. None of them used the roller bearings that mine has and they were all geared much the same but they were all different than mine. By 1892 they were making shellers that still had the roller bearings but they were geared like the York ones and it apears like after that date they were all using parts from one company. The one that was set up next to mine was one of those York ones. It was a Hench & Dromgold. Patent number 239552 With no corn in them we flipped the belts off and mine took twice as long to coast down to a stop. One of the Mountville numbers is 472181. ? Alan --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Ken Christison wrote: From: Ken Christison Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Sunday, December 12, 2010, 5:52 PM Great video, Alan!? It is always fun to see the young folks involved in the hobby.? Thanks for sharing. Do you have any other patent info for Mountville Mfg. Co.? My two hole sheller is obviously a later model, having a rounded cast piece with the name at the back end instead of the angular wood that is on the Hero.? It also has a double geared drive mechanism on the hand crank side which is on the opposite side as your sheller. I have searched for this info several times and can't seem to find this model. Ken On 12/12/2010 10:55 AM, Alan wrote: > Howdy folks, > It isn't very good but it is engine related. >??? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhOhYUL8HbA >??? > Alan in Michigan > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sun Dec 12 15:56:34 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 15:56:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <4D055223.90509@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: <115332.7399.qm@web111721.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Mine is a Hero sheller because that is what they called their two hole shellers. They called their one hole shellers Pony. ? Alan --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Ken Christison wrote: From: Ken Christison Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Sunday, December 12, 2010, 5:52 PM Great video, Alan!? It is always fun to see the young folks involved in the hobby.? Thanks for sharing. Do you have any other patent info for Mountville Mfg. Co.? My two hole sheller is obviously a later model, having a rounded cast piece with the name at the back end instead of the angular wood that is on the Hero.? It also has a double geared drive mechanism on the hand crank side which is on the opposite side as your sheller. I have searched for this info several times and can't seem to find this model. Ken On 12/12/2010 10:55 AM, Alan wrote: > Howdy folks, > It isn't very good but it is engine related. >??? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhOhYUL8HbA >??? > Alan in Michigan > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bdb at mchsi.com Sun Dec 12 17:33:35 2010 From: bdb at mchsi.com (Barry) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 19:33:35 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Harry Matthews Message-ID: Hi, Does anyone have contact information for Harry Matthews. I am having trouble with engine ads and don't know what the problem is. If you don't want to give out info over the net please have him contact me at bdb at mchsi. Thanks Barry From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Sun Dec 12 19:13:21 2010 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 20:13:21 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Harry Matthews In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Did you login for enginead? Harry's email is on Stak. regards RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 6:33 PM Subject: [SEL] Harry Matthews > Hi, Does anyone have contact information for Harry Matthews. I am having > trouble with engine ads and don't know what the problem is. If you don't > want to give out info over the net please have him contact me at > bdb at mchsi. > Thanks > Barry > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bdb at mchsi.com Sun Dec 12 19:50:04 2010 From: bdb at mchsi.com (Barry) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 21:50:04 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Harry Matthews In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <588154FDF1C9405DA3121669D991FB6A@Buffystoy> Hi Rick. I can logon to Smokestack but I can't log on to engineads. ????????? Looked on smokestack and didn't see his email. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Strobel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Harry Matthews > Did you login for enginead? > > Harry's email is on Stak. > > regards > RickinMt. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barry" > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 6:33 PM > Subject: [SEL] Harry Matthews > > >> Hi, Does anyone have contact information for Harry Matthews. I am having >> trouble with engine ads and don't know what the problem is. If you don't >> want to give out info over the net please have him contact me at >> bdb at mchsi. >> Thanks >> Barry >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From christison at coastalnet.com Sun Dec 12 21:09:23 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 00:09:23 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Smith Motor Wheel stuff Message-ID: <4D05AA83.6070805@coastalnet.com> After Mark posted his plea for info on the Smith Motor Wheel, I did a bunch of searching in Google books, and wasn't able to find the info Mark was after, but did find some tidbits that might be of interest to those of us not real familiar with these interesting machines. Mostly advertising pages, but a few interesting articles and pictures. Most from around 1917. Hope the files aren't too large to those with dial-up. Many of the files are close to 500kb, so I will apologize ahead of time. Just go to: http://www.oldengine.org/members/christison/resources/smith/ Take care. Ken From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Dec 12 22:58:00 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 06:58:00 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Harry Matthews In-Reply-To: <588154FDF1C9405DA3121669D991FB6A@Buffystoy> References: <588154FDF1C9405DA3121669D991FB6A@Buffystoy> Message-ID: On 13 December 2010 03:50, Barry wrote: > Hi Rick. I can logon to Smokestack but I can't log on to engineads. > ????????? Looked on smokestack and didn't see his email. Thanks Have emailed you directly with Harry's email address. If you go to the Members List, you can click on his name and the option of sending an email or Private Message comes up. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From bdb at mchsi.com Sun Dec 12 23:16:09 2010 From: bdb at mchsi.com (Barry) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 01:16:09 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Harry Matthews In-Reply-To: References: <588154FDF1C9405DA3121669D991FB6A@Buffystoy> Message-ID: <2C721589C6334563BEBBC99CE29AC7CC@Buffystoy> Thanks Peter, the problem has been resolved. Thanks Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 12:58 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Harry Matthews > On 13 December 2010 03:50, Barry wrote: >> Hi Rick. I can logon to Smokestack but I can't log on to engineads. >> ????????? Looked on smokestack and didn't see his email. Thanks > > Have emailed you directly with Harry's email address. > > If you go to the Members List, you can click on his name and the > option of sending an email or Private Message comes up. > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From avanti_64 at juno.com Mon Dec 13 06:47:24 2010 From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 14:47:24 GMT Subject: [SEL] Joe Prindle where are you??? Message-ID: <20101213.094724.10960.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> Hey Joe, any progress on the R & V governor spring??? Thanks, Joe Kelley ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Mon Dec 13 08:13:30 2010 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 08:13:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] Joe Prindle where are you??? In-Reply-To: <20101213.094724.10960.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <867973.3057.qm@web112614.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> YES. Working on it, emailed you off list..... Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan --- On Mon, 12/13/10, avanti_64 at juno.com wrote: From: avanti_64 at juno.com Subject: [SEL] Joe Prindle where are you??? To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Date: Monday, December 13, 2010, 8:47 AM Hey Joe, any progress on the R & V governor spring??? Thanks, Joe Kelley ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From walking_tractor at yahoo.com Mon Dec 13 17:29:00 2010 From: walking_tractor at yahoo.com (David Myers) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 17:29:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <511806.38535.qm@web112618.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <928001.72062.qm@web55905.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Joe and all, ? I'm definitely NOT picking on anybody but you got me to thinking when you said that about the youngsters at the shows. ? I feel it's our responsibility to make sure there's fun things for the children to do.? They are children and fun for them is very different for them, as it should be.?? Our local show has had the blessings of?a couple that spend the whole show setting up and working the kids tractor games.? This last year we even had? couple of tractor parades just for the kids.? We have been adding on to our playground (appropriately themed, of course).? We have a Farm History Day for the school children in May.? ? I think I'm trying to say that the reason some of those kids are looking bored is because?I let them get bored.? If that is the case then shame on me.? Maybe I need to play a game for a bit or let them take me for a walk (and I can talk to my friends a bit later, thank you).??Don't forget to focus on what they are looking at , it will be so very much worth the time you take. ? Oh, thanks for the video also, the look on the children's face is priceless. ? Thank you ? David ? Off my soapbox now. --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Joe Prindle wrote: That was a real nice video, good to see the youngsters at a show doing something other than sitting in a lawn chair looking bored. Thanks for posting. From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Mon Dec 13 17:47:54 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 12:47:54 +1100 Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video References: <928001.72062.qm@web55905.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ha! David, at Oz engine shows, the PUBLIC, en masse, are only allowed to wander OUTSIDE ALL enclosures, with a slack look on their faces. Take part? Ya gotta be joking! They might get injured!! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Myers" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video Joe and all, I'm definitely NOT picking on anybody but you got me to thinking when you said that about the youngsters at the shows. I feel it's our responsibility to make sure there's fun things for the children to do. They are children and fun for them is very different for them, as it should be. Our local show has had the blessings of a couple that spend the whole show setting up and working the kids tractor games. This last year we even had couple of tractor parades just for the kids. We have been adding on to our playground (appropriately themed, of course). We have a Farm History Day for the school children in May. I think I'm trying to say that the reason some of those kids are looking bored is because I let them get bored. If that is the case then shame on me. Maybe I need to play a game for a bit or let them take me for a walk (and I can talk to my friends a bit later, thank you). Don't forget to focus on what they are looking at , it will be so very much worth the time you take. Oh, thanks for the video also, the look on the children's face is priceless. Thank you David Off my soapbox now. --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Joe Prindle wrote: That was a real nice video, good to see the youngsters at a show doing something other than sitting in a lawn chair looking bored. Thanks for posting. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From walking_tractor at yahoo.com Mon Dec 13 18:58:06 2010 From: walking_tractor at yahoo.com (David Myers) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 18:58:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <518361.60353.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Reg, ? That just sucks, big time.? There are many a time that the powers-that-be?SEEM to get in the way of common sense, but?once in a while they ACTUALLY?do!!? ? Just thought of a way to get around the rules.? Get this!? Get everyone involved with the hobby, then they aren't spectators, they're participants!!?? Neat, Huh?? (And just who is it that says I have to live in reality?? Surreality is much more to my liking). ? Now don't get me wrong, I am for responsible oversight of our displays and I want no one to get hurt, even if they are being stupid.? I have seen people "testing" the belts while the engine is pounding away under full power, freaky scary.? But we should be able to let people learn by doing, which means getting up close and personal and touching, no ropes. ? I feel for you down there.? I try to remember that as bad as I sometimes think we have it here, there is someplace that is worse off.?? I'm hoping that one of these days I will be able to realize one of my dreams and come down to personally see just how bad off you folks actually are.?? ? David ? ? --- On Mon, 12/13/10, Reg Ingold wrote: From: Reg Ingold Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Monday, December 13, 2010, 8:47 PM Ha! David, at Oz engine shows, the PUBLIC, en masse, are only allowed to wander OUTSIDE ALL enclosures, with a slack look on their faces. Take part? Ya gotta be joking! They might get injured!! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 14 02:43:39 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 02:43:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <322256.67963.qm@web111716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Thanks for the comment, Reg. Would a display like mine be allowed? Yes, There are a couple ways you COULD get hurt by that sheller. ? Alan --- On Mon, 12/13/10, Reg Ingold wrote: From: Reg Ingold Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Monday, December 13, 2010, 8:47 PM Ha! David, at Oz engine shows, the PUBLIC, en masse, are only allowed to wander OUTSIDE ALL enclosures, with a slack look on their faces. Take part? Ya gotta be joking! They might get injured!! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Myers" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video Joe and all, I'm definitely NOT picking on anybody but you got me to thinking when you said that about the youngsters at the shows. I feel it's our responsibility to make sure there's fun things for the children to do. They are children and fun for them is very different for them, as it should be. Our local show has had the blessings of a couple that spend the whole show setting up and working the kids tractor games. This last year we even had couple of tractor parades just for the kids. We have been adding on to our playground (appropriately themed, of course). We have a Farm History Day for the school children in May. I think I'm trying to say that the reason some of those kids are looking bored is because I let them get bored. If that is the case then shame on me. Maybe I need to play a game for a bit or let them take me for a walk (and I can talk to my friends a bit later, thank you). Don't forget to focus on what they are looking at , it will be so very much worth the time you take. Oh, thanks for the video also, the look on the children's face is priceless. Thank you David Off my soapbox now. --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Joe Prindle wrote: That was a real nice video, good to see the youngsters at a show doing something other than sitting in a lawn chair looking bored. Thanks for posting. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Tue Dec 14 03:08:11 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 22:08:11 +1100 Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video References: <322256.67963.qm@web111716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8C0965F837A44F7F820CC34DD641829B@regpc> Aint gunna happen here. ALL fenced, including non running tractors. ONLY exhibitors in any enclosed areas. No kids, wives, etc. allowed unless club members with insurance. No wonder interest is waning and few newcomers taking over. Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video Thanks for the comment, Reg. Would a display like mine be allowed? Yes, There are a couple ways you COULD get hurt by that sheller. Alan --- On Mon, 12/13/10, Reg Ingold wrote: From: Reg Ingold Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Monday, December 13, 2010, 8:47 PM Ha! David, at Oz engine shows, the PUBLIC, en masse, are only allowed to wander OUTSIDE ALL enclosures, with a slack look on their faces. Take part? Ya gotta be joking! They might get injured!! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Myers" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video Joe and all, I'm definitely NOT picking on anybody but you got me to thinking when you said that about the youngsters at the shows. I feel it's our responsibility to make sure there's fun things for the children to do. They are children and fun for them is very different for them, as it should be. Our local show has had the blessings of a couple that spend the whole show setting up and working the kids tractor games. This last year we even had couple of tractor parades just for the kids. We have been adding on to our playground (appropriately themed, of course). We have a Farm History Day for the school children in May. I think I'm trying to say that the reason some of those kids are looking bored is because I let them get bored. If that is the case then shame on me. Maybe I need to play a game for a bit or let them take me for a walk (and I can talk to my friends a bit later, thank you). Don't forget to focus on what they are looking at , it will be so very much worth the time you take. Oh, thanks for the video also, the look on the children's face is priceless. Thank you David Off my soapbox now. --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Joe Prindle wrote: That was a real nice video, good to see the youngsters at a show doing something other than sitting in a lawn chair looking bored. Thanks for posting. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Tue Dec 14 05:55:01 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 08:55:01 -0500 Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <8C0965F837A44F7F820CC34DD641829B@regpc> References: <322256.67963.qm@web111716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8C0965F837A44F7F820CC34DD641829B@regpc> Message-ID: <4CE487F8-9FF6-439B-A04F-529613C1D62A@me.com> But Reg, If it saves the life of just one child............! Dave On Dec 14, 2010, at 6:08 AM, Reg Ingold wrote: > Aint gunna happen here. ALL fenced, including non running tractors. > ONLY exhibitors in any enclosed areas. > No kids, wives, etc. allowed unless club members with insurance. > No wonder interest is waning and few newcomers taking over. > > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 9:43 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video > > > Thanks for the comment, Reg. > Would a display like mine be allowed? > Yes, There are a couple ways you COULD get hurt by that sheller. > > Alan > > --- On Mon, 12/13/10, Reg Ingold wrote: > > > From: Reg Ingold > Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Date: Monday, December 13, 2010, 8:47 PM > > > Ha! David, at Oz engine shows, the PUBLIC, en masse, are only > allowed to > wander OUTSIDE ALL enclosures, with a slack look on their faces. > Take part? Ya gotta be joking! They might get injured!! > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Myers" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:29 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video > > > Joe and all, > > I'm definitely NOT picking on anybody but you got me to thinking > when you > said that about the youngsters at the shows. > > I feel it's our responsibility to make sure there's fun things for the > children to do. They are children and fun for them is very different > for > them, as it should be. Our local show has had the blessings of a > couple that > spend the whole show setting up and working the kids tractor games. > This > last year we even had couple of tractor parades just for the kids. > We have > been adding on to our playground (appropriately themed, of course). > We have > a Farm History Day for the school children in May. > > I think I'm trying to say that the reason some of those kids are > looking > bored is because I let them get bored. If that is the case then > shame on me. > Maybe I need to play a game for a bit or let them take me for a walk > (and I > can talk to my friends a bit later, thank you). Don't forget to > focus on > what they are looking at , it will be so very much worth the time > you take. > > Oh, thanks for the video also, the look on the children's face is > priceless. > > Thank you > > David > > Off my soapbox now. > > --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Joe Prindle wrote: > > > > > That was a real nice video, good to see the youngsters at a show doing > something other than sitting in a lawn chair looking bored. > Thanks for posting. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From swebre at hotmail.com Tue Dec 14 10:09:32 2010 From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 18:09:32 +0000 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Reg, Know it's been discussed before, but I forgot the reason you folks don't tell the national body to get stuffed and start your own shows that ARE fun. Start small and let it grow... -Steve- From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Tue Dec 14 13:15:38 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:15:38 +1100 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 References: Message-ID: <41F85846AAE34CF6883C41D5643F3DE3@regpc> When I first stated my views on this, I was, and am still, condemned by my club as a troublemaker.(To the extent that some wanted me thrown out of the club). The show side of the hobby here, has lost its appeal for me. There are only a couple I bother with now. I am too old and busy with projects, to even give a thought to the future of shows here. I am past caring. (As are a lot of others) Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Webre" To: "sel" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 > > Hey Reg, Know it's been discussed before, but I forgot the reason you > folks don't tell the national body to get stuffed and start your own shows > that ARE fun. Start small and let it grow... -Steve- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Tue Dec 14 14:04:19 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 17:04:19 -0500 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: <41F85846AAE34CF6883C41D5643F3DE3@regpc> References: <41F85846AAE34CF6883C41D5643F3DE3@regpc> Message-ID: Hi Reg, On Dec 14, 2010, at 4:15 PM, Reg Ingold wrote: > When I first stated my views on this, I was, and am still, condemned > by my > club as a troublemaker.(To the extent that some wanted me thrown out > of the > club). You sell yourself short mate. It's NOT just some of your club members that think you are a "troublemaker" It's a lot of people WORLDWIDE believe that! (And we have photographic PROOF to back up our claims!) > The show side of the hobby here, has lost its appeal for me. There > are only a couple I bother with now. We are ALL glad that two of them are Baraboo and Portland! > > I am too old and busy with projects, to even give a thought to the > future of > shows here. Don't know about the "busy" part, but you are correct on the "old" part. (Hell, Marg told me some time ago that it takes you all night to do what you used to do all night!) > > I am past caring. (As are a lot of others) Ok, but keep in mind that a lot of people (worldwhide) still care about YOU! > > > Reg & Marg Ingold Dave From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 14 14:32:22 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 14:32:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <4CE487F8-9FF6-439B-A04F-529613C1D62A@me.com> Message-ID: <476859.90047.qm@web111723.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> It is hard to see but there is a single piece of twine across the front of that sheller. Three years ago I had to almost fight an out of control eight year old brat. He came under the twine and actually was trying to grab the belt. There I stood with my right arm around him fighting to hold him back until I grabbed his seat end with my left hand?and carried that wild mess back to his stupid parents that were just standing there looking. It is just a good thing I got to him on time. It looked like his parents knew it would do no good to tell him NO. I just told them that it wasn't my job to control their kid. Alan in Michigan --- On Tue, 12/14/10, Dave Rotigel wrote: From: Dave Rotigel Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 8:55 AM But Reg, If it saves the life of just one child............! ??? Dave On Dec 14, 2010, at 6:08 AM, Reg Ingold wrote: > Aint gunna happen here. ALL fenced, including non running tractors. > ONLY exhibitors in any enclosed areas. > No kids, wives, etc. allowed unless club members with insurance. > No wonder interest is waning and few newcomers taking over. > > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 9:43 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video > > > Thanks for the comment, Reg. > Would a display like mine be allowed? > Yes, There are a couple ways you COULD get hurt by that sheller. > > Alan > > --- On Mon, 12/13/10, Reg Ingold wrote: > > > From: Reg Ingold > Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Date: Monday, December 13, 2010, 8:47 PM > > > Ha! David, at Oz engine shows, the PUBLIC, en masse, are only? > allowed to > wander OUTSIDE ALL enclosures, with a slack look on their faces. > Take part? Ya gotta be joking! They might get injured!! > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Myers" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:29 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video > > > Joe and all, > > I'm definitely NOT picking on anybody but you got me to thinking? > when you > said that about the youngsters at the shows. > > I feel it's our responsibility to make sure there's fun things for the > children to do. They are children and fun for them is very different? > for > them, as it should be. Our local show has had the blessings of a? > couple that > spend the whole show setting up and working the kids tractor games.? > This > last year we even had couple of tractor parades just for the kids.? > We have > been adding on to our playground (appropriately themed, of course).? > We have > a Farm History Day for the school children in May. > > I think I'm trying to say that the reason some of those kids are? > looking > bored is because I let them get bored. If that is the case then? > shame on me. > Maybe I need to play a game for a bit or let them take me for a walk? > (and I > can talk to my friends a bit later, thank you). Don't forget to? > focus on > what they are looking at , it will be so very much worth the time? > you take. > > Oh, thanks for the video also, the look on the children's face is? > priceless. > > Thank you > > David > > Off my soapbox now. > > --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Joe Prindle wrote: > > > > > That was a real nice video, good to see the youngsters at a show doing > something other than sitting in a lawn chair looking bored. > Thanks for posting. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Dec 14 14:57:46 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 17:57:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <476859.90047.qm@web111723.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <476859.90047.qm@web111723.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00bf7f1614549f6945dbefaef0a1c0cc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Alan, You're probably lucky the "parents" didn't sue you for "molesting" their little precious. They sound like the clueless sort that would do that. See ya, Arnie On Tue, December 14, 2010 5:32 pm, Alan wrote: > It is hard to see but there is a single piece of twine across the front of that > sheller. > Three years ago I had to almost fight an out of control eight year old brat. > He came under the twine and actually was trying to grab the belt. > There I stood with my right arm around him fighting to hold him back until I grabbed > his seat end with my left hand?and carried that wild mess back to his stupid parents > that were just standing there looking. > It is just a good thing I got to him on time. > It looked like his parents knew it would do no good to tell him NO. > I just told them that it wasn't my job to control their kid. From rotigel at me.com Tue Dec 14 14:47:39 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 17:47:39 -0500 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think it's called NO BALLS Steve! Dave On Dec 14, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Steve Webre wrote: > > Hey Reg, Know it's been discussed before, but I forgot the reason > you folks don't tell the national body to get stuffed and start your > own shows that ARE fun. Start small and let it grow... -Steve- From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 14 16:18:27 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 16:18:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <00bf7f1614549f6945dbefaef0a1c0cc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <596271.54329.qm@web111709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I guess that is why I didn't put him over my knee and whip on him. I was more tempted to whip THEM. Either deal with the kid or give him another pill like most parents do with ADHD kids. ? Alan in Michigan --- On Tue, 12/14/10, Arnie Fero wrote: From: Arnie Fero Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 5:57 PM Alan,? You're probably lucky the "parents" didn't sue you for "molesting" their little precious.? They sound like the clueless sort that would do that. See ya,? Arnie On Tue, December 14, 2010 5:32 pm, Alan wrote: > It is hard to see but there is a single piece of twine across the front of that > sheller. > Three years ago I had to almost fight an out of control eight year old brat. > He came under the twine and actually was trying to grab the belt. > There I stood with my right arm around him fighting to hold him back until I grabbed > his seat end with my left hand?and carried that wild mess back to his stupid parents > that were just standing there looking. > It is just a good thing I got to him on time. > It looked like his parents knew it would do no good to tell him NO. > I just told them that it wasn't my job to control their kid. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Wed Dec 15 02:37:39 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 21:37:39 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 Message-ID: In my spare moments I have still been working on the Austral register. The updated totals can be seen at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austral%20history.html And a basic version of the register with engine images can be found at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austreg/australreg1210web.htm Enjoy! Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Wed Dec 15 02:39:00 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 21:39:00 +1100 Subject: [SEL] OT Our new helper Message-ID: We are slowly catching up on everything. Little Samuel is now over two weeks old and doing very well. Thanks to all who sent congratulations both on and off list. Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Dec 15 03:51:52 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 06:51:52 EST Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 Message-ID: <38b87.31b1eba1.3a3a05d8@aol.com> In a message dated 12/14/2010 5:17:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, rotigel at me.com writes: Ok, but keep in mind that a lot of people (worldwhide) still care about YOU! Dave, you sure are mellowing in your old age! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Dec 15 09:04:35 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:04:35 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9e239f3f79a401d2fd9db335dd3c022e.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> So Patrick, Is Sam listed in the register as the youngest Austral ownber in the world? 8-)) See ya, Arnie On Wed, December 15, 2010 5:37 am, Patrick Livingstone wrote: > In my spare moments I have still been working on the Austral register. The > updated totals can be seen at: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austral%20history.html > > And a basic version of the register with engine images can be found at: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austreg/australreg1210web.htm From rotigel at me.com Wed Dec 15 13:20:54 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:20:54 -0500 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: <38b87.31b1eba1.3a3a05d8@aol.com> References: <38b87.31b1eba1.3a3a05d8@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi Tom, It's just due to the season. Just wait until the first of the year! Dave On Dec 15, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > Dave, you sure are mellowing in your old age! > > Tom Schmutz From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Dec 15 16:35:08 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 19:35:08 EST Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 Message-ID: In a message dated 12/15/2010 4:25:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, rotigel at me.com writes: Just wait until the first of the year! Yep, winter will have set for a while! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From christison at coastalnet.com Fri Dec 17 05:29:12 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 08:29:12 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Another mystery engine Message-ID: <4D0B65A8.5020205@coastalnet.com> I received pictures and information about an engine made in the USA which found its way to the UK and the owner is trying to find info on it. Just go to: http://www.oldengine.org/members/christison/mystery/miles/ for pictures, etc. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Ken From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Dec 17 05:47:20 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 05:47:20 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Another mystery engine In-Reply-To: <4D0B65A8.5020205@coastalnet.com> References: <4D0B65A8.5020205@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: <4C84A063-C83D-46B5-800D-2C5BFA084A8F@rustyiron.com> On Dec 17, 2010, at 5:29 AM, Ken Christison wrote: > I received pictures and information about an engine made in the USA > which found its way to the UK and the owner is trying to find info > on it. Just go to: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/christison/mystery/miles/ > for pictures, etc. It's definitely a Howard. They built engines in the mid-40s, until they were bought out by Davey, Paxman, and Company in 1947. From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Dec 17 08:02:46 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 11:02:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: G'day Patrick, I like that "basic" version of the register. I think I'll do something similar with the Lorenz & Benz register to link in the photos. I can understand why Victoria has a lot of Australs being the home state. Is NSW a nearby border state or does it have a lot of population/farms/industry? Some reason for having so many Australs after Victoria? I was really surprised by how few were in the other states. It reminds me of the "California-built" engines that were never seen east of the Rocky Mountains until stationary engine collectors discovered the hobby and began moving old iron around. When you have some free time (ha-ha) it would be neat if you could add some words on the various business & logistics factors that led to the interesting distribution of Australs. Keep up the good work!! See ya, Arnie On Wed, December 15, 2010 5:37 am, Patrick Livingstone wrote: > In my spare moments I have still been working on the Austral register. The > updated totals can be seen at: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austral%20history.html > > And a basic version of the register with engine images can be found at: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austreg/australreg1210web.htm > > Enjoy! > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Fri Dec 17 09:50:52 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 04:50:52 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Arnie, I will probably have to write an article on Austral distribution at some point. The NSW agents for much of the production period of the sideshaft engines was Moffat-Virtue who were one of the biggest machinery agents in NSW (which does border Victoria). In that era NSW & Victoria had the biggest populations in Australia and (more importantly) had much of the agricultural wealth. Both states literally 'rode on the sheep's back' with many fortunes being made shipping wool to the UK. A large number of Australs spent their working life in shearing sheds. Ronaldson-Tippett also had agencies in Queensland, South Australia & Western Australia but they never exported the sideshaft engines as they had a big enough market at home. NSW & Victoria also had very good country rail freight networks at that time (except for the change of gauge at the border) so distribution was very effective. Patrick On 18/12/10 3:02 AM, "Arnie Fero" wrote: > G'day Patrick, > > I like that "basic" version of the register. I think I'll do something > similar with > the Lorenz & Benz register to link in the photos. > > I can understand why Victoria has a lot of Australs being the home state. Is > NSW a > nearby border state or does it have a lot of population/farms/industry? Some > reason > for having so many Australs after Victoria? I was really surprised by how few > were > in the other states. It reminds me of the "California-built" engines that > were > never seen east of the Rocky Mountains until stationary engine collectors > discovered > the hobby and began moving old iron around. > > When you have some free time (ha-ha) it would be neat if you could add some > words on > the various business & logistics factors that led to the interesting > distribution of > Australs. Keep up the good work!! > > See ya, Arnie > > On Wed, December 15, 2010 5:37 am, Patrick Livingstone wrote: >> In my spare moments I have still been working on the Austral register. The >> updated totals can be seen at: >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austral%20history.html >> >> And a basic version of the register with engine images can be found at: >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austreg/australreg1210web.htm >> >> Enjoy! >> >> Patrick M Livingstone >> Leichhardt NSW >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From oldironnut at windstream.net Fri Dec 17 11:27:24 2010 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 14:27:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > I like that "basic" version of the register. I think I'll do something similar with > the Lorenz & Benz register to link in the photos. Isn't this statement akin to Kelley telling us that she's gonna' start working on her Mustang!!! :-)) Mike From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Dec 17 12:21:59 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 15:21:59 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> QUICK!! Someone hold a pressure bandage on this wound... 8-)) On Fri, December 17, 2010 2:27 pm, Michael Tucker wrote: > On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: >> I like that "basic" version of the register. I think I'll do something similar >> with the Lorenz & Benz register to link in the photos. > > Isn't this statement akin to Kelley telling us that she's gonna' start working on > her Mustang!!! :-)) From rotigel at me.com Fri Dec 17 13:27:30 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 16:27:30 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Ad upload notification References: Message-ID: <5DA90ACF-2119-4184-BFEB-80B50EE6463F@me.com> I LOVE it! Dave Begin forwarded message: > From: classifieds at oldengine.net > Date: December 17, 2010 2:46:29 PM EST > To: rotigel at me.com > Subject: Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Ad upload > notification > > The Engine Merchant has uploaded one or more ads to a category you > subscribe to. > > Title: For Sale Magneto(Childs Toy Magneto) > Location: Chapel Hill, NC USA > > Do not click reply to this email. Visit Enginads at the link below. > > Description: "The shocker", sold as a child\'s toy, good > harmless fun, one child hold the metal handles, other one turns the > Crank wheel, the faster you turn the more "Juice" is > crated;It works as I have tried it, kinda reminds me of \'Snipe > Hunting\'All original, PP to any zip cod in L-48. To view several > Hit/Miss Engiines/Oilers/Dolls/and antique music boxes go to: www.TheEngineMerchant.com > > Link to the ad: http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=44746 > > See the Hottest Auctions on eBay: http://www.enginads.com/auctions.php > > To turn off subscriptions for this category, click on the following > link: > > http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/misc.php?action=subscribe&sub=2 > > The Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Team > http://www.enginads.com From rotigel at me.com Fri Dec 17 13:29:55 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 16:29:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: I've got your back Arnie! The wound IS in your back, is it not? Dave On Dec 17, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > QUICK!! Someone hold a pressure bandage on this wound... 8-)) > > On Fri, December 17, 2010 2:27 pm, Michael Tucker wrote: >> On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: >>> I like that "basic" version of the register. I think I'll do >>> something similar >>> with the Lorenz & Benz register to link in the photos. >> >> Isn't this statement akin to Kelley telling us that she's gonna' >> start working on >> her Mustang!!! :-)) From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Dec 17 14:31:43 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 17:31:43 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Ad upload notification In-Reply-To: <5DA90ACF-2119-4184-BFEB-80B50EE6463F@me.com> References: <5DA90ACF-2119-4184-BFEB-80B50EE6463F@me.com> Message-ID: <20101217223139.8F4DE9420@smtp.wcoil.com> Seems that the ad has been pulled already. Mark At 04:27 PM 12/17/2010, you wrote: >I LOVE it! > Dave > >Begin forwarded message: > > > The Engine Merchant has uploaded one or more ads to a category you > > subscribe to. > > > > Title: For Sale Magneto(Childs Toy Magneto) > > Location: Chapel Hill, NC USA > > > > Do not click reply to this email. Visit Enginads at the link below. > > > > Description: "The shocker", sold as a child\'s toy, good > > harmless fun, one child hold the metal handles, other one turns the > > Crank wheel, the faster you turn the more "Juice" is > > crated;It works as I have tried it, kinda reminds me of \'Snipe > > Hunting\'All original, PP to any zip cod in L-48. To view several > > Hit/Miss Engiines/Oilers/Dolls/and antique music boxes go > to: www.TheEngineMerchant.com > > > > Link to the ad: > http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=44746 > > Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From christison at coastalnet.com Fri Dec 17 14:48:13 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 17:48:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Ad upload notification In-Reply-To: <20101217223139.8F4DE9420@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <5DA90ACF-2119-4184-BFEB-80B50EE6463F@me.com> <20101217223139.8F4DE9420@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <4D0BE8AD.4090605@coastalnet.com> Still on his webpage: http://picasaweb.google.com/TheEngineMerchant/TheEngineMerchantSHMEnginesRelatedItemsForSale#5351050911436613058 Ken On 12/17/2010 5:31 PM, Mark Shulaw wrote: > > Seems that the ad has been pulled already. Mark > > > At 04:27 PM 12/17/2010, you wrote: >> I LOVE it! >> Dave >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> The Engine Merchant has uploaded one or more ads to a category you >>> subscribe to. >>> >>> Title: For Sale Magneto(Childs Toy Magneto) >>> Location: Chapel Hill, NC USA >>> >>> Do not click reply to this email. Visit Enginads at the link below. >>> >>> Description:"The shocker", sold as a child\'s toy, good >>> harmless fun, one child hold the metal handles, other one turns the >>> Crank wheel, the faster you turn the more"Juice" is >>> crated;It works as I have tried it, kinda reminds me of \'Snipe >>> Hunting\'All original, PP to any zip cod in L-48. To view several >>> Hit/Miss Engiines/Oilers/Dolls/and antique music boxes go >> to: www.TheEngineMerchant.com >>> Link to the ad: >> http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=44746 >> From mr at carolina.rr.com Fri Dec 17 15:26:35 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 18:26:35 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 References: Message-ID: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Is the new Lorenz registry coming before or after the completion of the FERO compressor? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Tucker" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 > On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > >> I like that "basic" version of the register. I think I'll do something >> similar with >> the Lorenz & Benz register to link in the photos. > > Isn't this statement akin to Kelley telling us that she's gonna' start > working on her Mustang!!! :-)) > > Mike > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From christison at coastalnet.com Fri Dec 17 15:46:46 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 18:46:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Ad upload notification In-Reply-To: <20101217223139.8F4DE9420@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <5DA90ACF-2119-4184-BFEB-80B50EE6463F@me.com> <20101217223139.8F4DE9420@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <4D0BF666.904@coastalnet.com> Dave, Here is a book you can download from google books that will show you how to make your own shocker toy. The use is described in about the same way as the one that Larry has. Electric toy making for amateurs: By Thomas O'Conor Sloane Ken >> I LOVE it! >> Dave >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> The Engine Merchant has uploaded one or more ads to a category you >>> subscribe to. >>> >>> Title: For Sale Magneto(Childs Toy Magneto) >>> Location: Chapel Hill, NC USA >>> >>> Do not click reply to this email. Visit Enginads at the link below. >>> >>> Description:"The shocker", sold as a child\'s toy, good >>> harmless fun, one child hold the metal handles, other one turns the >>> Crank wheel, the faster you turn the more"Juice" is >>> crated;It works as I have tried it, kinda reminds me of \'Snipe >>> Hunting\'All original, PP to any zip cod in L-48. To view several >>> Hit/Miss Engiines/Oilers/Dolls/and antique music boxes go >> to: www.TheEngineMerchant.com >>> Link to the ad: >> http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=44746 From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Dec 17 15:48:52 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 18:48:52 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Ad upload notification In-Reply-To: <4D0BE8AD.4090605@coastalnet.com> References: <5DA90ACF-2119-4184-BFEB-80B50EE6463F@me.com> <20101217223139.8F4DE9420@smtp.wcoil.com> <4D0BE8AD.4090605@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: <20101217234847.F3D1D9394@smtp.wcoil.com> Just not on engine adds. Mark At 05:48 PM 12/17/2010, you wrote: >Still on his webpage: >http://picasaweb.google.com/TheEngineMerchant/TheEngineMerchantSHMEnginesRelatedItemsForSale#5351050911436613058 > >Ken > >On 12/17/2010 5:31 PM, Mark Shulaw wrote: > > > > Seems that the ad has been pulled already. Mark > > > > > > At 04:27 PM 12/17/2010, you wrote: > >> I LOVE it! > >> Dave > >> > >> Begin forwarded message: > >> > >>> The Engine Merchant has uploaded one or more ads to a category you > >>> subscribe to. > >>> > >>> Title: For Sale Magneto(Childs Toy Magneto) > >>> Location: Chapel Hill, NC USA > >>> > >>> Do not click reply to this email. Visit Enginads at the link below. > >>> > >>> Description:"The shocker", sold as a child\'s toy, good > >>> harmless fun, one child hold the metal handles, other one turns the > >>> Crank wheel, the faster you turn the more"Juice" is > >>> crated;It works as I have tried it, kinda reminds me of \'Snipe > >>> Hunting\'All original, PP to any zip cod in L-48. To view several > >>> Hit/Miss Engiines/Oilers/Dolls/and antique music boxes go > >> to: www.TheEngineMerchant.com > >>> Link to the ad: > >> http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=44746 > >> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Dec 17 22:25:55 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 01:25:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp> References: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: <509d3a1fe2d3308d617c76c6b86579d2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hey Mike, With the major shed cleanout in progress, there will soon be Fero compressed air in the shop!! 8-)) See ya, Arnie PS - I think I'll let this latest wound bleed a bit. The color is so festive,,, On Fri, December 17, 2010 6:26 pm, Mike Royster wrote: > Is the new Lorenz registry coming before or after the completion of the FERO > compressor? > > BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! From solarrog at pacbell.net Fri Dec 17 22:27:35 2010 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 22:27:35 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 References: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp> <509d3a1fe2d3308d617c76c6b86579d2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <84A1891F552C4295A329C13B8BE7011E@D6R3D961> There is a company called Ferro than made Inboard marine engines and outboard motors in the teens and twenties Is this the same company or something else? I have never heard of a Fero compressor. Roger DiRuscio, Broker, RDC-PRO, GRI. Equi-Trax, Resnet AMP & Equator Certified REO,BPO R.E. Realty Experts fax 510-623-6979 41051 Mission Blvd. Alameda County. Fremont, Ca 94539 DRE #615513 510-676-3122 cell 510-226-2444 Office Ham radio KG6QKZ CERT volunteer Sales since 1977. NABPOP Member, VREP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Fero" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 > Hey Mike, > > With the major shed cleanout in progress, there will soon be Fero > compressed air in > the shop!! 8-)) > > See ya, Arnie > > PS - I think I'll let this latest wound bleed a bit. The color is so > festive,,, > > On Fri, December 17, 2010 6:26 pm, Mike Royster wrote: >> Is the new Lorenz registry coming before or after the completion of the >> FERO >> compressor? >> >> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Dec 18 04:06:06 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 12:06:06 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Ad upload notification In-Reply-To: <4D0BF666.904@coastalnet.com> References: <5DA90ACF-2119-4184-BFEB-80B50EE6463F@me.com> <20101217223139.8F4DE9420@smtp.wcoil.com> <4D0BF666.904@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: On 17 December 2010 23:46, Ken Christison wrote: > Dave, > > Here is a book you can download from google books that will show you > how to make your own shocker toy. ?The use is described in about the same > way as the one that Larry has. > > Electric toy making for amateurs: By Thomas O'Conor Sloane > > Ken A more sophisticated version was sold as a 'medicinal instrument', and still appear in the UK on ebay occasionally in the Collectables. Weather cr*p again, -10 C or so last night, just been up to feed the nags, water buckets frozen over with 1" thick slabs of ice on top. Nasty job that, breaking it up then fishing the bits out of the water :-(( Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From mr at carolina.rr.com Sat Dec 18 04:17:28 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 07:17:28 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 References: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp><509d3a1fe2d3308d617c76c6b86579d2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <84A1891F552C4295A329C13B8BE7011E@D6R3D961> Message-ID: <000801cb9ead$8a053900$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Roger: The company that made the Ferro engine is a different company. They made a marketable, dependable, economical unit and you can remember this by the 2 r's in Ferro. The Fero compressor folks were very nice people that made at least one compressor, but the family tree had a weak branch and they became international nooklear injumeers instead. Now, sadly, there are no known working Feros in operation. Compressors either! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger DiRuscio" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:27 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 > There is a company called Ferro than made Inboard marine engines and > outboard motors in the teens and twenties > Is this the same company or something else? > I have never heard of a Fero compressor. > > Roger DiRuscio, Broker, RDC-PRO, GRI. > Equi-Trax, Resnet AMP & Equator Certified REO,BPO > R.E. Realty Experts fax 510-623-6979 > 41051 Mission Blvd. Alameda County. > Fremont, Ca 94539 DRE #615513 > 510-676-3122 cell 510-226-2444 Office > Ham radio KG6QKZ CERT volunteer > Sales since 1977. NABPOP Member, VREP > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arnie Fero" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:25 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 > > >> Hey Mike, >> >> With the major shed cleanout in progress, there will soon be Fero >> compressed air in >> the shop!! 8-)) >> >> See ya, Arnie >> >> PS - I think I'll let this latest wound bleed a bit. The color is so >> festive,,, >> >> On Fri, December 17, 2010 6:26 pm, Mike Royster wrote: >>> Is the new Lorenz registry coming before or after the completion of the >>> FERO >>> compressor? >>> >>> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From oldironnut at windstream.net Sat Dec 18 05:20:25 2010 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 08:20:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net> On 12/17/10 3:21 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > QUICK!! Someone hold a pressure bandage on this wound... 8-)) Bwahahahahaha!!!! It's just tough love for you and Kelley! See ya', Mike > On Fri, December 17, 2010 2:27 pm, Michael Tucker wrote: >> On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: >>> I like that "basic" version of the register. I think I'll do something similar >>> with the Lorenz& Benz register to link in the photos. >> Isn't this statement akin to Kelley telling us that she's gonna' start working on >> her Mustang!!! :-)) > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From tchristoff at earthlink.net Sat Dec 18 07:07:41 2010 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 09:07:41 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 Message-ID: <8067935.1292684862035.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Ouch! Tim -----Original Message----- >From: Mike Royster >Sent: Dec 18, 2010 6:17 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 > >Roger: > > The company that made the Ferro engine is a different company. They made >a marketable, dependable, economical unit and you can remember this by the 2 >r's in Ferro. The Fero compressor folks were very nice people that made at >least one compressor, but the family tree had a weak branch and they became >international nooklear injumeers instead. Now, sadly, there are no known >working Feros in operation. Compressors either! > >MR Tim Christoff From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Dec 18 07:43:36 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 10:43:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: <000801cb9ead$8a053900$0201a8c0@mikecomp> References: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp><509d3a1fe2d3308d617c76c6b86579d2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <84A1891F552C4295A329C13B8BE7011E@D6R3D961> <000801cb9ead$8a053900$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: <06691a0ad358570595c93d7c6f2f100b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Roger, For some background on the Fero Air Pump business, check out this page. http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm And don't miss the outstanding tale of the recovery of the first Fero Air Pump now in my personal collection. The author is, of course, that cunning linguist, the GOOD Cloistered Oyster, Mike Royster. http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero2.htm I'm happy to say that I now have three Fero Air Punps now in my collection. As faw as I can tell, all three are runners. I typically get 3-4 emails a year from folks who still own Fero Air Pumps or who just acquired one who are looking for information and are asking the age-old "what's it worth" question. So, who knows, there might be a Fero Air Pump lurking in the back of that garage just down the road. The last one that I got was less than five miles from where I live! See ya, Arnie On Sat, December 18, 2010 7:17 am, Mike Royster wrote: > > The company that made the Ferro engine is a different company. They made > a marketable, dependable, economical unit and you can remember this by the 2 > r's in Ferro. The Fero compressor folks were very nice people that made at > least one compressor, but the family tree had a weak branch and they became > international nooklear injumeers instead. Now, sadly, there are no known > working Feros in operation. Compressors either! > > MR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger DiRuscio" > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:27 AM > >> There is a company called Ferro than made Inboard marine engines and >> outboard motors in the teens and twenties >> Is this the same company or something else? >> I have never heard of a Fero compressor. From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Dec 18 07:46:05 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 10:46:05 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: <4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net> References: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net> Message-ID: I FEEL the love... 8-)) On Sat, December 18, 2010 8:20 am, Michael Tucker wrote: > On 12/17/10 3:21 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: >> QUICK!! Someone hold a pressure bandage on this wound... 8-)) > > Bwahahahahaha!!!! It's just tough love for you and Kelley! From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sat Dec 18 07:40:44 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 07:40:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Ad upload notification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <899832.69650.qm@web111718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I have one Peter. I bought it off EBay several few years ago. (Several few is a term that means I have had it quite a while but I don't remember just when I got it) ? The funniest thing about mine is the company that sold it. It is something like,,, The Paine Medical Apparatus Company. ? Alan in Michigan --- On Sat, 12/18/10, Listerdiesel wrote: From: Listerdiesel Subject: Re: [SEL] Fwd: Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Ad upload notification To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Saturday, December 18, 2010, 7:06 AM On 17 December 2010 23:46, Ken Christison wrote: > Dave, > > Here is a book you can download from google books that will show you > how to make your own shocker toy. ?The use is described in about the same > way as the one that Larry has. > > Electric toy making for amateurs: By Thomas O'Conor Sloane > > Ken A more sophisticated version? was sold as a 'medicinal instrument', and still appear in the UK on ebay occasionally in the Collectables. Weather cr*p again, -10 C or so last night, just been up to feed the nags, water buckets frozen over with 1" thick slabs of ice on top. Nasty job that, breaking it up then fishing the bits out of the water :-(( Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From solarrog at pacbell.net Sat Dec 18 08:45:02 2010 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 08:45:02 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 References: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp><509d3a1fe2d3308d617c76c6b86579d2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><84A1891F552C4295A329C13B8BE7011E@D6R3D961> <000801cb9ead$8a053900$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: Let me guess It is a methane compressor and release Bio unit. Roger DiRuscio, Broker, RDC-PRO, GRI. Equi-Trax, Resnet AMP & Equator Certified REO,BPO R.E. Realty Experts fax 510-623-6979 41051 Mission Blvd. Alameda County. Fremont, Ca 94539 DRE #615513 510-676-3122 cell 510-226-2444 Office Ham radio KG6QKZ CERT volunteer Sales since 1977. NABPOP Member, VREP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 > Roger: > > The company that made the Ferro engine is a different company. They made > a marketable, dependable, economical unit and you can remember this by the > 2 > r's in Ferro. The Fero compressor folks were very nice people that made > at > least one compressor, but the family tree had a weak branch and they > became > international nooklear injumeers instead. Now, sadly, there are no known > working Feros in operation. Compressors either! > > MR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger DiRuscio" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:27 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 > > >> There is a company called Ferro than made Inboard marine engines and >> outboard motors in the teens and twenties >> Is this the same company or something else? >> I have never heard of a Fero compressor. >> >> Roger DiRuscio, Broker, RDC-PRO, GRI. >> Equi-Trax, Resnet AMP & Equator Certified REO,BPO >> R.E. Realty Experts fax 510-623-6979 >> 41051 Mission Blvd. Alameda County. >> Fremont, Ca 94539 DRE #615513 >> 510-676-3122 cell 510-226-2444 Office >> Ham radio KG6QKZ CERT volunteer >> Sales since 1977. NABPOP Member, VREP >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Arnie Fero" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:25 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 >> >> >>> Hey Mike, >>> >>> With the major shed cleanout in progress, there will soon be Fero >>> compressed air in >>> the shop!! 8-)) >>> >>> See ya, Arnie >>> >>> PS - I think I'll let this latest wound bleed a bit. The color is so >>> festive,,, >>> >>> On Fri, December 17, 2010 6:26 pm, Mike Royster wrote: >>>> Is the new Lorenz registry coming before or after the completion of the >>>> FERO >>>> compressor? >>>> >>>> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From mr at carolina.rr.com Sat Dec 18 10:08:09 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 13:08:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 References: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp><509d3a1fe2d3308d617c76c6b86579d2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><84A1891F552C4295A329C13B8BE7011E@D6R3D961><000801cb9ead$8a053900$0201a8c0@mikecomp> <06691a0ad358570595c93d7c6f2f100b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <004001cb9ede$877d3850$0201a8c0@mikecomp> This is my favorite quote from Arnie. " As far as I can tell, all three are runners." Translated into English = "they look like they might run, but as for now they are in a pile on the floor, and any minute now, I'm going to start on that. Where is the beer?" From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Dec 18 12:09:58 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:09:58 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: <004001cb9ede$877d3850$0201a8c0@mikecomp> References: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp><509d3a1fe2d3308d617c76c6b86579d2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><84A1891F552C4295A329C13B8BE7011E@D6R3D961><000801cb9ead$8a053900$0201a8c0@mikecomp> <06691a0ad358570595c93d7c6f2f100b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <004001cb9ede$877d3850$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: Damn, its TOUGH when you hang with these guys for YEARS.... 8-)) On Sat, December 18, 2010 1:08 pm, Mike Royster wrote: > This is my favorite quote from Arnie. " As far as I can tell, all three > are runners." Translated into English = "they look like they might run, > but as for now they are in a pile on the floor, and any minute now, I'm > going to start on that. Where is the beer?" From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Sat Dec 18 12:00:35 2010 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (Craig Morrison) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 20:00:35 -0000 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 References: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp><509d3a1fe2d3308d617c76c6b86579d2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><84A1891F552C4295A329C13B8BE7011E@D6R3D961><000801cb9ead$8a053900$0201a8c0@mikecomp><06691a0ad358570595c93d7c6f2f100b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <004001cb9ede$877d3850$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: <57B46C13F6884A8CADC338D42B3AF4B0@craig8b4f43368> Mike, Sure you don't mean where is the CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARR...................??? Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 > This is my favorite quote from Arnie. " As far as I can tell, all three > are runners." Translated into English = "they look like they might run, > but as for now they are in a pile on the floor, and any minute now, I'm > going to start on that. Where is the beer?" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Sat Dec 18 13:28:29 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 16:28:29 EST Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 Message-ID: In a message dated 12/18/2010 10:35:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, fero_ah at city-net.com writes: _http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm) Arnie That is a great family history to the past! My fathers grandfather had some kind of paper products business in Pittsburgh and when he passed away the family had a falling out over the business and all was discontinued. Probably predecessor to Weyerhaeuser or some other famous paper business and I could have been rich! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From Germoamer at aol.com Sat Dec 18 13:42:28 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 16:42:28 EST Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 Message-ID: In a message dated 12/18/2010 3:06:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, fero_ah at city-net.com writes: Translated into English = "they look like they might run, > but as for now they are in a pile on the floor, and any minute now, I'm > going to start on that. Where is the beer?" Arnie, Some advice from Dr. Phil for that problem: I am passing this on to you because it definitely works, and we could all use a little more calmness in our lives. By following simple advice heard on the Dr. Phil show, you too can find inner peace. Dr Phil proclaimed, "The way to achieve inner peace is to finish all the things you have started and have never finished." So, I looked around my house to see all the things I started and hadn't finished, and before leaving the house this morning, I finished off a bottle of White Zinfandel, a bottle of Bailey's Irish Cream, a package of Oreos, the remainder of my old Prozac prescription, the rest of the cheesecake, some Doritos, and a box of chocolates, and a half bottle of scotch. You have no idea how freaking good I feel right now. Pass this on to those whom you think might be in need of inner peace. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From mr at carolina.rr.com Sat Dec 18 14:13:24 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 17:13:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 References: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp><509d3a1fe2d3308d617c76c6b86579d2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><84A1891F552C4295A329C13B8BE7011E@D6R3D961><000801cb9ead$8a053900$0201a8c0@mikecomp><06691a0ad358570595c93d7c6f2f100b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><004001cb9ede$877d3850$0201a8c0@mikecomp> <57B46C13F6884A8CADC338D42B3AF4B0@craig8b4f43368> Message-ID: <00fe01cb9f00$ca67fca0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Ahhhhhhh, memories of Portland......... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Morrison" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 > Mike, > Sure you don't mean where is the > CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARR...................??? > > Craig > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Royster" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 6:08 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 > > >> This is my favorite quote from Arnie. " As far as I can tell, all three >> are runners." Translated into English = "they look like they might run, >> but as for now they are in a pile on the floor, and any minute now, I'm >> going to start on that. Where is the beer?" >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Dec 18 18:14:43 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 21:14:43 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9c4960b8bc602f40c643f04b23a76848.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> ROFLMAO!!! I love it! THAT sounds like a plan for the holiday. I think I'll start immediately. 8-)) See ya, Arnie On Sat, December 18, 2010 4:42 pm, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > Arnie, Some advice from Dr. Phil for that problem: > > I am passing this on to you because it definitely works, and we could all > use a little more calmness in our lives. By following simple advice heard > on the Dr. Phil show, you too can find inner peace. Dr Phil proclaimed, "The > way to achieve inner peace is to finish all the things you have started > and have never finished." > > So, I looked around my house to see all the things I started and hadn't > finished, and before leaving the house this morning, I finished off a bottle > of White Zinfandel, a bottle of Bailey's Irish Cream, a package of Oreos, > the remainder of my old Prozac prescription, the rest of the cheesecake, some > Doritos, and a box of chocolates, and a half bottle of scotch. > > You have no idea how freaking good I feel right now. > Pass this on to those whom you think might be in need of inner peace. From jerrye at databak.co.za Sun Dec 19 08:24:18 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 18:24:18 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Misfortune in Old Engine land. Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101219182148.00e1fa58@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Sorry all this went to the Oldengine List yesterday but I forgot to cc the S.E.L. list. Hi All, I've been off the net (and lists) for a few days. We've been having very heavy rain and flooding here. I live next to a small river and it rose to it's highest level in over 40 years. Fortunately my house and other buildings are high up and not in any danger of flooding at all. My only damage was a roof that started leaking and soaked my computer. I just finished fitting a new main board a few hours ago and am "catching up" on all the list mail. My good friend Neville Botha was not so fortunate. He lives about 6 or 7 Kms. downstream from me and was flooded out. I and a few other engine friends spent most of Thursday and Friday trying to move his possessions to safety. He lives in a split level home and most of his house as well as his engine museum/showroom is on the higher level and has never been threatened with flooding since he moved there (more than 40 years ago) so we concentrated on the lower level. Unfortunately, during a few hours on Thursday night the river rose by about 2.5 metres and entered the top level of his home as well as his workshops and museum. Most of the smaller engines seen in the above link were either fully or partially submerged. The larger Rustons and the Fielding which are mounted on concrete plinths were spared - he also has various vintage cars but apart from an E Type Jag which was flooded, the others came off lightly. I feel devastated for Neville - his collection has been built up over a lifetime and is one of the best in South Africa ! Making matters worse is that Neville injured his knee earlier in the year and is battling to recover - he has been using crutches for the last few months (he is well into his 70's). Anyway, both he and his wife are very positive people and have accepted what has happened very well. I called in at his place at about midday today and he had already drained all the oil and water out of his Petters (his passion) and was starting to get them cleaned up. His son is also helping him and was busy getting the "E" Type cleaned up and dry. This river only has it's source about 50 Kms north of us but due to the spread of urbanisation over the last 30 years or so the annual floods are becoming more severe. There are now more tarred roads and paved areas in it's catchment area as well as buildings so the rain no longer gets absorbed by the earth but rather is channelled to this small river. Should anyone want to send a personal message to Neville and Luann feel free to send it "Off List" to my address and I'll print it out and give it to them. I am sure he will appreciate this because I always tell him what great people we have on these lists. I did take pictures but Jacqui is flying on a commemorative flight for the "Dakota" today and has taken my camera - that was before my computer was fixed so I could not download the pics. I will do so as soon as she returns and put up a page on my site probably in a few hours time. Reg should have landed in South Africa by now - strangely, I had arranged to collect him on the 23rd and take him meet Neville ! More later friends. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jerrye at databak.co.za Sun Dec 19 08:26:34 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 18:26:34 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Misfortune in Old Engine land./Update Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101219182428.02705200@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi all, I've put the pics here: Thanks to all who sent private messages to Neville - I will deliver them tomorrow. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jerrye at databak.co.za Sun Dec 19 09:34:00 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:34:00 +0200 Subject: [SEL] News about Reg Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101219193047.00e15290@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi all, I spoke to Reg on the phone a few minutes ago. He's arrived safely in South Africa and is with his brother. He says he had an uncomfortable trip out in economy class but is going to change his return flight to business class. Otherwise he and Marg are well. I can't wait to eventually meet him personally. All for now. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jlb94 at juno.com Sun Dec 19 13:21:14 2010 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 21:21:14 GMT Subject: [SEL] Sort of rediculous - almost OT Message-ID: <20101219.162114.19408.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> Hi List, Check out the "Three Spout Yellow Dog Type Heater" I saw on eBay and just HAD to have it. Any idea as to what it would be used for other than the obvious? It looks too good to be a "hand made" item. http://oldengine.org/members/betz/yellow_dog.htm Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "Merry Christmas, (_o_) Happy New Year" ____________________________________________________________ How to Stay Asleep Cambridge Researchers have developed an all natural sleep aid just for you. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d0e778e27bb77ef2edst06vuc From rob at rustyiron.com Sun Dec 19 15:42:15 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 15:42:15 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Sort of rediculous - almost OT In-Reply-To: <20101219.162114.19408.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> References: <20101219.162114.19408.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: On Dec 19, 2010, at 1:21 PM, jlb94 at juno.com wrote: > Hi List, > Check out the "Three Spout Yellow Dog Type Heater" I saw on eBay and just HAD to have it. > Any idea as to what it would be used for other than the obvious? It looks too good to be a "hand made" item. > > http://oldengine.org/members/betz/yellow_dog.htm Pretty cool, Joe. I don't know if you'd call it a yellow DOG... maybe a yellow cerberus... or maybe yellow DOG that drinks from the cooling pond at the nuclear power plant. From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Mon Dec 20 02:28:27 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:28:27 +1100 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: <41F85846AAE34CF6883C41D5643F3DE3@regpc> Message-ID: Things are not as bad at rallies here as Reg's rosy picture seems to portray. Most rallies are very enjoyable with no trouble from officials or safety officers. Frequently the only trouble is if you go looking for it. Unfortunately some rallies have slightly over-zealous safety officers or officials. If they get too over the top the exhibitors simply don't come next time and the show has a unlamented demise. I personally find the Nationals are too over-regulated and most of the fun has gone from them, perhaps that is the nature of big events. The small and smaller big rallies are still pretty good fun. If I believed all I read on the list (and other forums) I would think that most US shows consisted of rows of motorhomes with the odd maytag sitting in front of them and I would be in danger of being run of by but-buggies driven by kids who are too lazy to walk. Of course this may be true but I don't think so. The spectre of of the evil national body is not as bad as it may appear through the looking glass of the list. Patrick On 15/12/10 8:15 AM, "Reg Ingold" wrote: > When I first stated my views on this, I was, and am still, condemned by my > club as a troublemaker.(To the extent that some wanted me thrown out of the > club). The show side of the hobby here, has lost its appeal for me. There > are only a couple I bother with now. > I am too old and busy with projects, to even give a thought to the future of > shows here. > I am past caring. (As are a lot of others) > > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Webre" > To: "sel" > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:09 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 > > >> >> Hey Reg, Know it's been discussed before, but I forgot the reason you >> folks don't tell the national body to get stuffed and start your own shows >> that ARE fun. Start small and let it grow... -Steve- >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From russell at ncable.com.au Mon Dec 20 02:58:52 2010 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:58:52 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas In-Reply-To: References: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net> Message-ID: <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> Well firstly let me say a very merry christmas to all our SEL friends. We are very busy these days and don't get much time to join in the discussions. Saying that we/I do try and keep up with what is happening. Well some time back we decided to import some mighty USA old iron; well partly old iron tossed with some tuperware. The engine result is my new toy which is running okay. I does seem to hunt a little and has run away on me a couple of times; (lucky for me I was hanging on to it) Looks nice sitting next to my Campbell but wont quick run a slow yet! I might have to buggerize around with the governor a little more. enjoy: http://community.webshots.com/album/579332934NPsrSI and Merry christmas to all. regards Russell and Carmel From rfinksr at verizon.net Mon Dec 20 03:34:42 2010 From: rfinksr at verizon.net (rfinksr) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 06:34:42 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Sort of rediculous - almost OT References: <20101219.162114.19408.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Hey Joe that maybe one of a kind. And worth a lot of money. Maybe your ship came in. lol R Fink ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:21 PM Subject: [SEL] Sort of rediculous - almost OT > Hi List, > Check out the "Three Spout Yellow Dog Type Heater" I saw on eBay and just > HAD to have it. > Any idea as to what it would be used for other than the obvious? It > looks too good to be a "hand made" item. > > http://oldengine.org/members/betz/yellow_dog.htm > > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ "Merry Christmas, > (_o_) Happy New Year" > > > ____________________________________________________________ > How to Stay Asleep > Cambridge Researchers have developed an all natural sleep aid just for > you. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d0e778e27bb77ef2edst06vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Dec 20 11:27:33 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:27:33 +0200 Subject: [SEL] A message to the Greatest People in the world !! Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101220202618.00de32f8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi to all my Friends on these lists, I want to thank you all for all the "Off List" messages that you sent to my friend Neville Botha on the occasion of his property being flooded. You have only served to reinforce the opinion that I have so often expressed and that is "Enginemen (and women) are the greatest people". Thank you, my friends, (and it is an honour to be able to call you "friends"). Allow me to explain! Neville is an "older gent" , he does not understand computers and the Internet - he only remembers the times that, if you wanted info on an engine it would take months (or even years) to get all that info via "snail mail". He cannot believe that so many people have written messages to him within so short a time of his misfortune. (That's all you guys). Neville has been collecting engines (and any other "vintage stuff") since his "teens" - long before many of us (or the Internet) were born. It's a passion with him as I've mentioned previously. (O.K. Maybe he is not as old as Dave :-)) Guys, I'd really like to describe to you all the look of surprise and joy on Neville's face when I presented him with a printout of all your messages but it was beyond description. I swear that it made him feel 10 years younger! His face beamed - he could not believe that so many "strangers" (although I've mentioned most of you over the years) could have written to him. So, once again, I say "Thank you very much" to my friends. You made an "older gent" very happy in this time of distress. I spent the whole day (today) at Neville's place - just trying to help out - I drained the oil (water included) from most of his "smaller/less illustrious engines and generally "did what I could". I will be back there tomorrow and with a bit of luck his showroom should be clean by tomorrow night. On Thursday I've scheduled to collect Reg and take him to meet Neville - Neville has already guaranteed that his big Ruston will run ! Guys (and your Gals) thank you once again for being the "Greatest People In The World" - You have made an Old Mans setbacks that much easier for him to bear. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From bethell at internode.on.net Mon Dec 20 12:10:34 2010 From: bethell at internode.on.net (Jim & Geraldine Bethell) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 07:10:34 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas In-Reply-To: <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> References: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net> <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <8267D81C194D4B2CB897D9C709D338FB@bethell> Hey Russell, Can't wait to see you pull up in the drive with it! regards Jimbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:58 PM Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas > Well firstly let me say a very merry christmas to all our SEL friends. We > are very busy these days and don't get much time to join in the > discussions. Saying that we/I do try and keep up with what is happening. > Well some time back we decided to import some mighty USA old iron; well > partly old iron tossed with some tuperware. The engine result is my new > toy which is running okay. I does seem to hunt a little and has run away > on me a couple of times; (lucky for me I was hanging on to it) Looks nice > sitting next to my Campbell but wont quick run a slow yet! I might have to > buggerize around with the governor a little more. enjoy: > http://community.webshots.com/album/579332934NPsrSI and Merry christmas to > all. > regards Russell and Carmel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Mon Dec 20 12:15:56 2010 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 07:15:56 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas In-Reply-To: <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> References: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net> <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <7C7ECF8FEDA24F6B870168D3CCDCA9D2@KerryPC> G'Day Mates She looks great (even if it hasn't got a blue oval 8-)) ) I think the governor problem would be associated with the link between the pedal and your bum. anyway you have done well, a fine piece of American iron Merry Christmas to you the girls and your mum and dad Kerry > Well firstly let me say a very merry christmas to all our SEL friends. We > are very busy these days and don't get much time to join in the > discussions. Saying that we/I do try and keep up with what is happening. > Well some time back we decided to import some mighty USA old iron; well > partly old iron tossed with some tuperware. The engine result is my new > toy which is running okay. I does seem to hunt a little and has run away > on me a couple of times; (lucky for me I was hanging on to it) Looks nice > sitting next to my Campbell but wont quick run a slow yet! I might have to > buggerize around with the governor a little more. enjoy: > http://community.webshots.com/album/579332934NPsrSI and Merry christmas to > all. > regards Russell and Carmel From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Dec 20 13:20:50 2010 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 16:20:50 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas In-Reply-To: <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> References: , , , <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>, <4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net>, , <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Hey Russell, Is that what you got for me and Mike to drive to engine shows while we are down under visiting you? Wow , thanks, you're the best engine pal ever!!! Steve > From: russell at ncable.com.au > Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:58:52 +1100 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas > > Well firstly let me say a very merry christmas to all our SEL friends. We are very busy these days and don't get much time to join in the discussions. Saying that we/I do try and keep up with what is happening. Well some time back we decided to import some mighty USA old iron; well partly old iron tossed with some tuperware. The engine result is my new toy which is running okay. I does seem to hunt a little and has run away on me a couple of times; (lucky for me I was hanging on to it) Looks nice sitting next to my Campbell but wont quick run a slow yet! I might have to buggerize around with the governor a little more. enjoy: http://community.webshots.com/album/579332934NPsrSI and Merry christmas to all. > regards Russell and Carmel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Dec 20 14:49:11 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:49:11 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas References: , , , <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>, <4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net>, , <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <001d01cba098$1edc7a70$0201a8c0@mikecomp> That is just so like Russell, no wonder he bought a gas pump last time he was here! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas > > Hey Russell, Is that what you got for me and Mike to drive to engine shows > while we are down under visiting you? Wow , thanks, you're the best > engine pal ever!!! Steve > >> From: russell at ncable.com.au >> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:58:52 +1100 >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas >> >> Well firstly let me say a very merry christmas to all our SEL friends. We >> are very busy these days and don't get much time to join in the >> discussions. Saying that we/I do try and keep up with what is happening. >> Well some time back we decided to import some mighty USA old iron; well >> partly old iron tossed with some tuperware. The engine result is my new >> toy which is running okay. I does seem to hunt a little and has run away >> on me a couple of times; (lucky for me I was hanging on to it) Looks nice >> sitting next to my Campbell but wont quick run a slow yet! I might have >> to buggerize around with the governor a little more. enjoy: >> http://community.webshots.com/album/579332934NPsrSI and Merry christmas >> to all. >> regards Russell and Carmel >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Mon Dec 20 15:31:49 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 10:31:49 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas In-Reply-To: <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Noice. Have a Merry Christmas. On 20/12/10 9:58 PM, "Russell" wrote: > Well firstly let me say a very merry christmas to all our SEL friends. We are > very busy these days and don't get much time to join in the discussions. > Saying that we/I do try and keep up with what is happening. Well some time > back we decided to import some mighty USA old iron; well partly old iron > tossed with some tuperware. The engine result is my new toy which is running > okay. I does seem to hunt a little and has run away on me a couple of times; > (lucky for me I was hanging on to it) Looks nice sitting next to my Campbell > but wont quick run a slow yet! I might have to buggerize around with the > governor a little more. enjoy: > http://community.webshots.com/album/579332934NPsrSI and Merry christmas to > all. > regards Russell and Carmel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From jbcast at charter.net Mon Dec 20 16:56:36 2010 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 19:56:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas Message-ID: <1540870951.1359211.1292892999673.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Wrap your ass in fiberglass. Nice looking car. I've finally got started on my 61 Vette, had it for 33 years. It's great the raise you get when the house is paid for and the kids are gone. J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA >> >> Well firstly let me say a very merry christmas to all our SEL >> friends. We are very busy these days and don't get much time to join >> in the discussions. Saying that we/I do try and keep up with what is >> happening. Well some time back we decided to import some mighty USA >> old iron; well partly old iron tossed with some tuperware. The engine >> result is my new toy which is running okay. I does seem to hunt a >> little and has run away on me a couple of times; (lucky for me I was >> hanging on to it) Looks nice sitting next to my Campbell but wont >> quick run a slow yet! I might have to buggerize around with the >> governor a little more. enjoy: >> http://community.webshots.com/album/579332934NPsrSI and Merry >> christmas to all. >> regards Russell and Carmel >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Mon Dec 20 17:03:17 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:03:17 -0800 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10A3B315-7715-4363-A80F-7A591FD24A68@rustyiron.com> On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote: > If I believed all I read on the list (and other forums) I would think that > most US shows consisted of rows of motorhomes with the odd maytag sitting in > front of them and I would be in danger of being run of by but-buggies driven > by kids who are too lazy to walk. Well, Patrick. That pretty much describes every American engine show. But you forgot to mention nearly getting trampled by the hordes of Australians and Englishmen flashing thick wads of cheap dollars and looking to pillage our priceless industrial heritage (not to mention our dwindling supply of muscle cars). Shouldn't you be changing diapers or something? :-) From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Dec 20 18:40:02 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:40:02 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas References: <1540870951.1359211.1292892999673.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Message-ID: <000c01cba0b8$5ef62f50$0201a8c0@mikecomp> I'm halfway there!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas > Wrap your ass in fiberglass. Nice looking car. I've finally got started > on my 61 Vette, had it for 33 years. It's great the raise you get when > the house is paid for and the kids are gone. > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA > > >>> >>> Well firstly let me say a very merry christmas to all our SEL >>> friends. We are very busy these days and don't get much time to join >>> in the discussions. Saying that we/I do try and keep up with what is >>> happening. Well some time back we decided to import some mighty USA >>> old iron; well partly old iron tossed with some tuperware. The engine >>> result is my new toy which is running okay. I does seem to hunt a >>> little and has run away on me a couple of times; (lucky for me I was >>> hanging on to it) Looks nice sitting next to my Campbell but wont >>> quick run a slow yet! I might have to buggerize around with the >>> governor a little more. enjoy: >>> http://community.webshots.com/album/579332934NPsrSI and Merry >>> christmas to all. >>> regards Russell and Carmel >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From christison at coastalnet.com Mon Dec 20 19:38:34 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 22:38:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas In-Reply-To: <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> References: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net> <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <4D10213A.7020500@coastalnet.com> Sweet ride, Russell. Congratulations! We couldn't afford one of these, so bought a little Solstice 3 1/2 years ago. It reminds me a bit of the 53-54 vette. Here is a picture of it taken 2 years ago today: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kenskritters/3122773961/ Merry Christmas to all in case I don't have anything else to reply to;-) Ken Christison Conway, NC On 12/20/2010 5:58 AM, Russell wrote: > Well firstly let me say a very merry christmas to all our SEL friends. We are very busy these days and don't get much time to join in the discussions. Saying that we/I do try and keep up with what is happening. Well some time back we decided to import some mighty USA old iron; well partly old iron tossed with some tuperware. The engine result is my new toy which is running okay. I does seem to hunt a little and has run away on me a couple of times; (lucky for me I was hanging on to it) Looks nice sitting next to my Campbell but wont quick run a slow yet! I might have to buggerize around with the governor a little more. enjoy: http://community.webshots.com/album/579332934NPsrSI and Merry christmas to all. > regards Russell and Carmel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Mon Dec 20 22:51:00 2010 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (Craig Morrison) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 06:51:00 -0000 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 References: <10A3B315-7715-4363-A80F-7A591FD24A68@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <20535F57E6F8488BB0334976F4D6D5CD@craig8b4f43368> Rob, Atleast you left us Scots men out of the equation. Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 > On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote: >> If I believed all I read on the list (and other forums) I would think >> that >> most US shows consisted of rows of motorhomes with the odd maytag sitting >> in >> front of them and I would be in danger of being run of by but-buggies >> driven >> by kids who are too lazy to walk. > > > Well, Patrick. That pretty much describes every American engine show. > But you forgot to mention nearly getting trampled by the hordes of > Australians and Englishmen flashing thick wads of cheap dollars and > looking to pillage our priceless industrial heritage (not to mention our > dwindling supply of muscle cars). > > Shouldn't you be changing diapers or something? > :-) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From enginepaul at gmail.com Tue Dec 21 09:15:55 2010 From: enginepaul at gmail.com (P. Johns) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 09:15:55 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas In-Reply-To: <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> References: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net> <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Nice car! And is tupaware anything like Tupperware? Paul in California PS: If you haven't heard George Jones sing the Corvette Song, go to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_-ABV05pvw&feature=related From russell at ncable.com.au Tue Dec 21 13:58:45 2010 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 08:58:45 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas In-Reply-To: References: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net> <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Nope, Tupperware is the modern plastic stuff girls have! Russell On 22/12/2010, at 4:15 AM, P. Johns wrote: > Nice car! > > And is tupaware anything like Tupperware? > > Paul in California > > PS: If you haven't heard George Jones sing the Corvette Song, go to: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_-ABV05pvw&feature=related > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Dec 22 07:08:45 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:08:45 -0500 Subject: [SEL] The Shock of the Old: Technology and Global History since 1900 Message-ID: <4f100a9e190f4f9cb7b717295c9a3149.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Folks, This looks like an interesting book by David Edgerton. http://www.hbs.edu/bhr/archives/bookreviews/82/dhochfelder.pdf $19 at Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Shock-Old-Technology-Global-History/dp/0195322835 See ya, Arnie From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Dec 22 14:56:31 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 00:56:31 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Just a bit early..... Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101222233451.026f64c8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi to all the members of these two great lists (actually 3 lists if you include the bcc to "Slick"), It's a few days early but I need to send this out now as I will be meeting Reg & Marg. in a few hours and assume that I will have my hands full protecting our ladies from "you know who" and will possibly not have time for e-mail once that happens. :-) Every year I try to send out a mail to all the friends I've made on these lists and it usually ends up as a "soppy, sentimental, I Love you all" kinda mail. Well, I've thought long and hard about this years message and guess what I've decided ? Damn, you guessed it again :-) , it's gonna be another one of those mails !!!!!! Thank you all for your friendship, support, camaraderie and for just darn well being there ! I joined the lists in late 2004 (or thereabouts) (could I stop calling myself a "newbie" now ?) and my life changed. I have derived so much pleasure from being a member of your (our) fraternity. Yes, sometimes the posts do get a bit "tense" and yes, sometimes they are "off topic" and yes, sometimes someone will post attachments that cause a lot of stress to the "dial uppers" but eventually, what counts is that we talk (write) to each other. Pretty much every "engine related" question I have ever posted gets answered and often by members who are not active and I meet new friends. I, as a South African, have often needed help in obtaining parts or help in getting parts. It has always amazed me as to how many of you guys have offered that help - without ever having met me. I need you guys to understand that I really appreciate your offers to help and really wish that I can return your kindness and trust someday. In the above I've referred a lot to "guys" but we do have a few active "gals" on the lists. The two that spring to mind are Helen (Dolly) and Kelley. Thank you girls - I love you to bits and thanks for your posts and friendship. Of course Marg also joins in whenever "him in the shed" allows her near the computer :-). I have learnt that I can rely on "engine people" to do good. As a case in point, my friend Neville Botha's recent flooding setback. I suggested personal notes to him - you guys outdid yourselves. There were so many messages sent to him. For 3 days I've delivered printouts to him and each time Neville "beamed" - he was so impressed to get so many messages from strangers. I swear that your messages made it all worthwhile for him. Thank you all so much. What also impressed him tremendously was the number of letters actually mentioning the great collection that he has built up - mention of individual engines (and condition) he has and suchlike made your letters so much more credible than a simple "Get well Soon" message. Thanks again. O.K. Guys and Gals - it's late and I must get my "Beauty Sleep" - have a great CHRISTmas and a prosperous 2011. Forget about those who feel the need to be P.C. - it's CHRISTmas. I look forward to corresponding with you all in 2011. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Thu Dec 23 03:32:36 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 22:32:36 +1100 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: <10A3B315-7715-4363-A80F-7A591FD24A68@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: It is looking good for us Aussies to bring some good American iron over here. The exchange rate is nice at the moment. Maybe Samuel would like a nice Mustang :) On 21/12/10 12:03 PM, "Rob Skinner" wrote: > On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote: >> If I believed all I read on the list (and other forums) I would think that >> most US shows consisted of rows of motorhomes with the odd maytag sitting in >> front of them and I would be in danger of being run of by but-buggies driven >> by kids who are too lazy to walk. > > > Well, Patrick. That pretty much describes every American engine show. But > you forgot to mention nearly getting trampled by the hordes of Australians and > Englishmen flashing thick wads of cheap dollars and looking to pillage our > priceless industrial heritage (not to mention our dwindling supply of muscle > cars). > > Shouldn't you be changing diapers or something? > :-) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Dec 23 04:59:38 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 22:59:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good to see our little Aussie battler ($$$) worth more than that Yankee greenback. It is looking good for us Aussies to bring some good American iron over here. The exchange rate is nice at the moment. Maybe Samuel would like a nice Mustang :) On 21/12/10 12:03 PM, "Rob Skinner" wrote: > On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote: >> If I believed all I read on the list (and other forums) I would think >> that >> most US shows consisted of rows of motorhomes with the odd maytag sitting >> in >> front of them and I would be in danger of being run of by but-buggies >> driven >> by kids who are too lazy to walk. > > > Well, Patrick. That pretty much describes every American engine show. > But > you forgot to mention nearly getting trampled by the hordes of Australians > and > Englishmen flashing thick wads of cheap dollars and looking to pillage our > priceless industrial heritage (not to mention our dwindling supply of > muscle > cars). > > Shouldn't you be changing diapers or something? > :-) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Dec 24 14:00:52 2010 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 09:00:52 +1100 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3A69D845-14CE-42C6-A278-F99617310EF1@ncable.com.au> It's a fun exersise Patrick. Also great to see/enjoy the end result. On 23/12/2010, at 10:32 PM, Patrick Livingstone wrote: > It is looking good for us Aussies to bring some good American iron over > here. The exchange rate is nice at the moment. > Maybe Samuel would like a nice Mustang :) > > > On 21/12/10 12:03 PM, "Rob Skinner" wrote: > >> On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote: >>> If I believed all I read on the list (and other forums) I would think that >>> most US shows consisted of rows of motorhomes with the odd maytag sitting in >>> front of them and I would be in danger of being run of by but-buggies driven >>> by kids who are too lazy to walk. >> >> >> Well, Patrick. That pretty much describes every American engine show. But >> you forgot to mention nearly getting trampled by the hordes of Australians and >> Englishmen flashing thick wads of cheap dollars and looking to pillage our >> priceless industrial heritage (not to mention our dwindling supply of muscle >> cars). >> >> Shouldn't you be changing diapers or something? >> :-) >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jneth3 at mac.com Fri Dec 24 16:43:11 2010 From: jneth3 at mac.com (John Neth) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 19:43:11 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Merry Christmas Message-ID: <7D35DB7A-2E27-4CEE-AC3C-8449D585F4BD@mac.com> My wife Linda and I would like to wish all a very merry Christmas, a prosperous and healthy new year, free from natural and man made disasters. If anyone is traveling thru upper east Tennessee, and need a place to hang your hat our home is available. It is small but hope to build a new one someday. John Sent from my iPhone From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Dec 24 16:44:39 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 02:44:39 +0200 Subject: [SEL] The Aussies arrive !!! Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101225024228.01e1f590@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi all, The Aussies arrived - look here: Jerry From rotigel at me.com Fri Dec 24 21:36:02 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 00:36:02 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Merry Christmas In-Reply-To: <7D35DB7A-2E27-4CEE-AC3C-8449D585F4BD@mac.com> References: <7D35DB7A-2E27-4CEE-AC3C-8449D585F4BD@mac.com> Message-ID: Good goD John, What the hell are "man made disasters?" Is that something like 9/11 when the f#(%ing Muslims attacked us? Get REAL and lets talk about playing "Cowboys and Muslims!" Dave PS. 1/20/2012--The End Of An ERROR! On Dec 24, 2010, at 7:43 PM, John Neth wrote: > My wife Linda and I would like to wish all a very merry Christmas, a prosperous and healthy new year, free from natural and man made disasters. If anyone is traveling thru upper east Tennessee, and need a place to hang your hat our home is available. It is small but hope to build a new one someday. > > John From rfinksr at verizon.net Sat Dec 25 04:06:19 2010 From: rfinksr at verizon.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 07:06:19 -0500 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ONE AND ALL THE FINK FAMILY From Germoamer at aol.com Sat Dec 25 05:00:09 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 08:00:09 EST Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: Wishing all of our relatives and friends around the world a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Light snow here the early morning in Concord, Va., and from the looks of the tree, Santa has been here. Tom and Millie Schmutz From jneth3 at mac.com Sat Dec 25 06:18:09 2010 From: jneth3 at mac.com (John Neth) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 09:18:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Merry Christmas In-Reply-To: References: <7D35DB7A-2E27-4CEE-AC3C-8449D585F4BD@mac.com> Message-ID: <1A62548D-6891-43A0-9C3B-D131845EB149@mac.com> Could be the big stuff or car accidents etc. Agree with the cowboy part. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > Good goD John, What the hell are "man made disasters?" Is that something like 9/11 when the f#(%ing Muslims attacked us? Get REAL and lets talk about playing "Cowboys and Muslims!" > Dave > PS. 1/20/2012--The End Of An ERROR! > > On Dec 24, 2010, at 7:43 PM, John Neth wrote: > >> My wife Linda and I would like to wish all a very merry Christmas, a prosperous and healthy new year, free from natural and man made disasters. If anyone is traveling thru upper east Tennessee, and need a place to hang your hat our home is available. It is small but hope to build a new one someday. >> >> John > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From enginepaul at gmail.com Sat Dec 25 09:36:58 2010 From: enginepaul at gmail.com (P. Johns) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 09:36:58 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Merry Christmas In-Reply-To: References: <7D35DB7A-2E27-4CEE-AC3C-8449D585F4BD@mac.com> Message-ID: As to: "What the hell are "man made disasters?" " Most of the laws passed by Congress. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Paul in California - raining and the wind is blowing, but I'm inside; so I'm happy. From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Sat Dec 25 10:34:28 2010 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 13:34:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Merry Christmas Message-ID: <108831.2aa4c264.3a479334@aol.com> A man made disaster is when you open your fidge and you rump roast farts at you. Happy Holidays KK In a message dated 12/25/2010 12:47:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, enginepaul at gmail.com writes: As to: "What the hell are "man made disasters?" " Most of the laws passed by Congress. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Paul in California - raining and the wind is blowing, but I'm inside; so I'm happy. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Dec 26 17:18:41 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 20:18:41 -0500 Subject: [SEL] sad notice Message-ID: <000a01cba564$002330d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> It is my sad duty to inform you that my brother Steve's fiancee Dawn passed away last night due to complications from liver cancer. Asheville, NC is under a foot of snow so there are no arrangements at this time. Steve is doing well as can be expected and appreciates your kindness and concern over the past few months. Mike From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Dec 26 18:10:18 2010 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 20:10:18 -0600 Subject: [SEL] sad notice In-Reply-To: <000a01cba564$002330d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> References: <000a01cba564$002330d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: Mike, Steve and Dawn have been and will continue to be in our prayers. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2010, at 7:18 PM, "Mike Royster" wrote: > It is my sad duty to inform you that my brother Steve's fiancee Dawn passed away last night due to complications from liver cancer. Asheville, NC is under a foot of snow so there are no arrangements at this time. Steve is doing well as can be expected and appreciates your kindness and concern over the past few months. > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From kkinney at herculesengines.com Sun Dec 26 18:28:20 2010 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 20:28:20 -0600 Subject: [SEL] sad notice In-Reply-To: <000a01cba564$002330d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> References: <000a01cba564$002330d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: <9189F46F-5E6B-4FFC-AD38-40049D58008A@herculesengines.com> Mike So sorry to hear this news. Please pass our condolences on to Steve. Keith On Dec 26, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Mike Royster wrote: > It is my sad duty to inform you that my brother Steve's fiancee Dawn passed away last night due to complications from liver cancer. Asheville, NC is under a foot of snow so there are no arrangements at this time. Steve is doing well as can be expected and appreciates your kindness and concern over the past few months. > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Sun Dec 26 19:25:36 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 14:25:36 +1100 Subject: [SEL] sad notice In-Reply-To: <000a01cba564$002330d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: Please pass on our deepest condolences to Steve at this sad time. Patrick & Ann On 27/12/10 12:18 PM, "Mike Royster" wrote: > It is my sad duty to inform you that my brother Steve's fiancee Dawn passed > away last night due to complications from liver cancer. Asheville, NC is > under a foot of snow so there are no arrangements at this time. Steve is > doing well as can be expected and appreciates your kindness and concern over > the past few months. > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Dec 27 01:17:07 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:17:07 +0000 Subject: [SEL] sad notice In-Reply-To: <000a01cba564$002330d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> References: <000a01cba564$002330d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: On 27 December 2010 01:18, Mike Royster wrote: > ?It is my sad duty to inform you that my brother Steve's fiancee Dawn passed away last night due to complications from liver cancer. ?Asheville, NC is under a foot of snow so there are no arrangements at this time. ?Steve is doing well as can be expected and appreciates your kindness and concern over the past few months. > > ?Mike Devastating news, Mike, our sincerest condolences to Steve and to Dawn's family. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From Germoamer at aol.com Mon Dec 27 05:10:07 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 08:10:07 EST Subject: [SEL] sad notice Message-ID: <1c5e9.45d4292d.3a49ea2f@aol.com> Mike, Very sorry to learn of the passing of Dawn. Condolences to Steve. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Dec 27 10:28:41 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 20:28:41 +0200 Subject: [SEL] sad notice In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101227202406.01d50b78@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Dear Mike, Terrible news. I have sent a message "off list" to you from Reg and I. I doubt that Steve will be checking his e-mail right now. Please look out for it and get it to him. Thanks my friend, Jerry (and also on behalf of Reg) At 07:00 PM 27/12/2010, you wrote: >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 20:18:41 -0500 >From: "Mike Royster" >Subject: [SEL] sad notice > > It is my sad duty to inform you that my brother Steve's fiancee Dawn > passed away last night due to complications from liver > cancer. Asheville, NC is under a foot of snow so there are no > arrangements at this time. Steve is doing well as can be expected and > appreciates your kindness and concern over the past few months. > > Mike From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Dec 27 14:57:42 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 17:57:42 -0500 Subject: [SEL] sad notice References: <000a01cba564$002330d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: <001001cba619$78b23810$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Thanks Tommy! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Cc: Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] sad notice > Mike, > > Steve and Dawn have been and will continue to be in our prayers. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Dec 26, 2010, at 7:18 PM, "Mike Royster" wrote: > >> It is my sad duty to inform you that my brother Steve's fiancee Dawn >> passed away last night due to complications from liver cancer. >> Asheville, NC is under a foot of snow so there are no arrangements at >> this time. Steve is doing well as can be expected and appreciates your >> kindness and concern over the past few months. >> >> Mike >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Dec 29 09:10:18 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 12:10:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: No Ashes Update? Message-ID: <05751f05acfc3d33eebf96d51687e4c1.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Gee, with all of the Brit and Ozzie members on these lists, I was certain that there would be at least ONE update on the Ashes. Dead silence..... 8-)) See ya, Arnie From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Wed Dec 29 11:17:09 2010 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (Craig Morrison) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 19:17:09 -0000 Subject: [SEL] OT: No Ashes Update? References: <05751f05acfc3d33eebf96d51687e4c1.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <37091FE59E7A4090ABB220C16B3165CB@craig8b4f43368> Arnie, I'm not a cricket fan (the term watching paint dry springs to mind) but it was unfortunate that the English retained the ashes . Seems it's the first time they have done so in OZ for a long time so there is plenty of bleating (and not sheep) about it on the TV. cheers, Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Fero" To: "Old Engine List" ; "Stationary Engine List" Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 5:10 PM Subject: [SEL] OT: No Ashes Update? > Gee, with all of the Brit and Ozzie members on these lists, I was certain > that there > would be at least ONE update on the Ashes. > > Dead silence..... 8-)) > > See ya, Arnie > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Dec 29 12:00:12 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 22:00:12 +0200 Subject: [SEL] The Aussie visit -- Updated Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101229215759.021363a0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi all, We had a great day again yesterday with Reg & Marg. It's the same webpage - just added text and more pics. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From christison at coastalnet.com Wed Dec 29 13:00:03 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 16:00:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] The Aussie visit -- Updated In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20101229215759.021363a0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20101229215759.021363a0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <4D1BA153.7050901@coastalnet.com> Great pics as usual, Jerry! These really brought a smile:-) Ken On 12/29/2010 3:00 PM, Jerry Evans wrote: > Hi all, > We had a great day again yesterday with Reg& Marg. > > It's the same webpage - just added text and more pics. > > > > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Dec 29 13:17:32 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (plowe at exemail.com.au) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 16:17:32 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Curt Andree Message-ID: <380-2201012329211732540@M2W107.mail2web.com> Hi Curt I am away at my Dad's place until Saturday, do not have your direct email, hence a message to the LIST, sorry guys. Will catch up in regards to your query then. Pete, Oz -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE ? Free email based on Microsoft? Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE From dombros2 at clearmail.com.au Wed Dec 29 13:56:44 2010 From: dombros2 at clearmail.com.au (Domeney Brothers) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 08:56:44 +1100 Subject: [SEL] OT No Ashes update Message-ID: Dead silenc?. Naaah, just dead! Teddy (Aussie supporter...........was!) From lew at lewslittlefarm.com Wed Dec 29 14:14:39 2010 From: lew at lewslittlefarm.com (Lew Best) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 16:14:39 -0600 Subject: [SEL] OT No Ashes update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009301cba7a5$d18ea4e0$74abeea0$@com> Well, since I have no idea what the ashes are about being American................. Lew near Waco, TX -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Domeney Brothers Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 3:57 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] OT No Ashes update Dead silenc?. Naaah, just dead! Teddy (Aussie supporter...........was!) _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Fri Dec 31 02:14:50 2010 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 21:14:50 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Happy New Year... even you 'Merikans who don't get yours until tomorrow :) Message-ID: <000001cba8d3$8f6e2fc0$ae4a8f40$@steamengine.com.au> I know this is a few hours early but I'm off to the city with the kids to see the fireworks. Might take a while to get home when everyone pours out of the city! May your year start well and for those who are going to crank up this year - long and loud. Regards Paul From plowe at exemail.com.au Fri Dec 31 05:17:18 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 23:17:18 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Happy New Year Message-ID: <888EA7F5942049A7BF2137E653D11AD8@PeterPC> Happy New Year from here in Oz. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Australia From peterwoodmore at aol.com Fri Dec 31 05:57:20 2010 From: peterwoodmore at aol.com (Peter Woodmore) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 08:57:20 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Happy New Year Message-ID: <8CD7709C737645B-1580-12C46@webmail-m015.sysops.aol.com> Happy new year from a very hot Sydney night Regards Peter & Marie Woodmore peterwoodmore at aol.com Skype name = woadmere From gop4evr at lsol.net Fri Dec 31 06:47:48 2010 From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 08:47:48 -0600 Subject: [SEL] New Year engine run? Message-ID: <4A2E3538-47AC-491B-B6D2-A158E783F794@lsol.net> How many of our "down under" friends are cranking up today? It should be a simple matter down there -- they don't have to shovel the snow to get at the engine shed. It's been awhile since I dragged out the Hercules. I may have to do a brief roll out tomorrow. I have done a New Year's engine run here most years with one of my more gamey (really) friends. What is the coldest weather anyone has cranked up their old iron in? A couple of years ago it was 4 deg. below zero (F) here. Thats the one that sticks in my mind. The Herc didn't start on the first flip of the wheels either. And I didn't stay out long . . . . Nelson Johnsrud Manitowoc WI (3hp Hercules) From asouth42 at embarqmail.com Fri Dec 31 07:41:55 2010 From: asouth42 at embarqmail.com (Arthur&Deana Southwell) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:41:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Greetings Message-ID: Happy New Year to all the Lists. Arthur Southwell Arcadia, FL 34266 USA From jlb94 at juno.com Fri Dec 31 07:44:37 2010 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 15:44:37 GMT Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: <20101231.104437.2481.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> I have sent an email to the list wishing everyone a Happy New Year. For some reason, it is being held because someone thinks it has "Explicit Destination" - - or something like that. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "Merry Christmas, (_o_) Happy New Year" ____________________________________________________________ Mortgage Rates Hit 2.99% If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Gov't Refi Programs http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d1dfaad893f5999e3ast06vuc From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Dec 31 08:43:22 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:43:22 -0500 Subject: [SEL] New Year engine run? In-Reply-To: <4A2E3538-47AC-491B-B6D2-A158E783F794@lsol.net> References: <4A2E3538-47AC-491B-B6D2-A158E783F794@lsol.net> Message-ID: <31e4c071a4289f84fc9e240526f4c458.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hey Nels, I vividly remember two New Year's crank-ups. One was COLD with knee-deep snow and I put a bucket of hot water in the Whitte hopper to help her start. The other one was 72 deg and SUNNY!! Cranked up in shorts & T-shirt, sat in a lawn chair with a beer to listen to 'em run. Never come close to those conditions again! I think the 3 hp Novo "S" and the 2-1/2 hp tulip top Bamford will "get the call" for this year's crank-up. See ya, Arnie On Fri, December 31, 2010 9:47 am, Nelson Johnsrud wrote: > > What is the coldest weather anyone has cranked up their old iron in? A couple of > years ago it was 4 deg. below zero (F) here. Thats the one that sticks in my mind. > The Herc didn't start on the first flip of the wheels either. And I didn't stay out > long . . . . From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Dec 31 08:47:06 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:47:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <20101231.104437.2481.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> References: <20101231.104437.2481.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Jeeze Joe, WHERE did you wish everyone would go to celebrate the New Year? 8-)) See ya, Arnie PS - Happy New Year to you too. Give Sylvia a cuddle for me? On Fri, December 31, 2010 10:44 am, jlb94 at juno.com wrote: > > I have sent an email to the list wishing everyone a Happy New Year. > For some reason, it is being held because someone thinks it has "Explicit > Destination" - - or something like that. > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Fri Dec 31 10:28:36 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:28:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] New Year engine run? In-Reply-To: <4A2E3538-47AC-491B-B6D2-A158E783F794@lsol.net> Message-ID: <198313.56670.qm@web111701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I did start my 1 3/4 Herc S and Cushman 1 1/2 HP model 21 type X one crisp New Year at -12 F. They fired right up too. Of couse there was a one hour prep to get that result. I started with 50 degree F tap water then went to 110 degree hot tap water for a while before I drained again and went with the nearly boiling water. Those engines seemed to think it was Summer time already. They fired up and ran sweetly. ? Alan in Michigan --- On Fri, 12/31/10, Nelson Johnsrud wrote: From: Nelson Johnsrud Subject: [SEL] New Year engine run? To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 9:47 AM How many of our "down under" friends are cranking up today?? It should be a simple matter down there -- they don't have to shovel the snow to get at the engine shed. It's been awhile since I dragged out the Hercules.? I may have to do a brief roll out tomorrow.? I have done a New Year's engine run here most years with one of my more gamey (really) friends. What is the coldest weather anyone has cranked up their old iron in?? A couple of years ago it was 4 deg. below zero (F) here.? Thats the one that sticks in my mind.? The Herc didn't start on the first flip of the wheels either.? And I didn't stay out long . . . . Nelson Johnsrud Manitowoc WI (3hp Hercules) _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Dec 31 13:46:47 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 23:46:47 +0200 Subject: [SEL] New Years greetings Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101231234340.027d4ff8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi to all the members, It's 15 minutes to 2011 here so we wish you all a Happy and successful New year. May 2011 be a great year for you all. Best regards from, Jerry & Jacqui Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Dec 31 13:52:27 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 23:52:27 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 28 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101231234959.027c9f98@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 07:00 PM 31/12/2010, you wrote: >Message: 6 >Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 15:44:37 GMT >From: "jlb94 at juno.com" >Subject: [SEL] (no subject) >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Message-ID: <20101231.104437.2481.1 at webmail03.vgs.untd.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > >I have sent an email to the list wishing everyone a Happy New Year. >For some reason, it is being held because someone thinks it has "Explicit >Destination" - - or something like that. > >Joe "Pip" Betz said that. >jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz >,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz >\/)"(\/ "Merry Christmas, >(_o_) Happy New Year" >____________________________________________________________ >Mortgage Rates Hit 2.99% >If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Gov't Refi Programs >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d1dfaad893f5999e3ast06vuc Hi Joe, Thanks and same to you. Your message is probably because of the free advertising that your e-mail provider (Juno) tacks on to the end of you mail (left intact above for you to see). Keep well, Jerry From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Fri Dec 31 14:02:34 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 09:02:34 +1100 Subject: [SEL] New Year engine run? In-Reply-To: <4A2E3538-47AC-491B-B6D2-A158E783F794@lsol.net> Message-ID: A little after midnight I fired up my old Fairbanks-Morse No.1 Eclipse to celebrate the New Year. It didn't even wake up the baby :) Happy New Year from Sydney Patrick On 1/1/11 1:47 AM, "Nelson Johnsrud" wrote: > How many of our "down under" friends are cranking up today? It should be a > simple matter down there -- they don't have to shovel the snow to get at the > engine shed. > > It's been awhile since I dragged out the Hercules. I may have to do a brief > roll out tomorrow. I have done a New Year's engine run here most years with > one of my more gamey (really) friends. > > What is the coldest weather anyone has cranked up their old iron in? A couple > of years ago it was 4 deg. below zero (F) here. Thats the one that sticks in > my mind. The Herc didn't start on the first flip of the wheels either. And I > didn't stay out long . . . . > > Nelson Johnsrud > Manitowoc WI > (3hp Hercules) > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From camaned at iinet.net.au Fri Dec 31 15:03:51 2010 From: camaned at iinet.net.au (Cam Grundy) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 10:03:51 +1100 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: Edwina and I would like to wish all a Happy and healthy New Year. Cam and Edwina Grundy Kariong NSW 2250 AUS From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Dec 3 18:15:31 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 18:15:31 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Engine Articles 4 U Message-ID: <3588DBF3-EBC8-4E97-99AD-1E1F062ED88C@rustyiron.com> For a long time I've been wanting to add some stuff to the web page. My old layout was clunky and getting hard to manage, so I neglected the site entirely. Since we've had more than our share of rain over the past couple weeks, there was plenty of "indoors time," and I got the opportunity to tackle the problem. Most everything is the same as it's been for a while, but the biggest addition was some articles that might be of interest to SEL and OldEngine folks. http://rustyiron.com/articles.html From kosh at ncweb.com Fri Dec 3 21:50:20 2010 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 00:50:20 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Engine Articles 4 U In-Reply-To: <3588DBF3-EBC8-4E97-99AD-1E1F062ED88C@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20101204004915.043f4b50@ncweb.com> Very spiffy pages. Would have sworn they were PDF. ...really substantial content too! Dave Merchant At 09:15 PM 12/3/2010, you wrote: >For a long time I've been wanting to add some stuff to the web page. My >old layout was clunky and getting hard to manage, so I neglected the site >entirely. Since we've had more than our share of rain over the past >couple weeks, there was plenty of "indoors time," and I got the >opportunity to tackle the problem. > >Most everything is the same as it's been for a while, but the biggest >addition was some articles that might be of interest to SEL and OldEngine >folks. > >http://rustyiron.com/articles.html > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline." - Prof. Phil Jones - Director, Climatic Research Unit - School of Environmental Sciences - University of East Anglia - Norwich, UK - To: Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley, Malcolm Hughes From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com Fri Dec 3 23:59:46 2010 From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer) Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 07:59:46 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Engine Articles 4 U In-Reply-To: <3588DBF3-EBC8-4E97-99AD-1E1F062ED88C@rustyiron.com> References: <3588DBF3-EBC8-4E97-99AD-1E1F062ED88C@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Thanks Rob,liked the ageing tips. John > From: rob at rustyiron.com > Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 18:15:31 -0800 > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Engine Articles 4 U > > For a long time I've been wanting to add some stuff to the web page. My old layout was clunky and getting hard to manage, so I neglected the site entirely. Since we've had more than our share of rain over the past couple weeks, there was plenty of "indoors time," and I got the opportunity to tackle the problem. > > Most everything is the same as it's been for a while, but the biggest addition was some articles that might be of interest to SEL and OldEngine folks. > > http://rustyiron.com/articles.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jlb94 at juno.com Sat Dec 4 07:33:26 2010 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 15:33:26 GMT Subject: [SEL] Engine Articles 4 U Message-ID: <20101204.103326.22027.2@webmail22.vgs.untd.com> Nice site Rob, Very informative and easy to navigate. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "Merry Christmas, (_o_) Happy New Year" ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Rob Skinner To: "Oldengine.org" , Stationary-Engine ATIS Subject: [SEL] Engine Articles 4 U Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 18:15:31 -0800 For a long time I've been wanting to add some stuff to the web page. My old layout was clunky and getting hard to manage, so I neglected the site entirely. Since we've had more than our share of rain over the past couple weeks, there was plenty of "indoors time," and I got the opportunity to tackle the problem. Most everything is the same as it's been for a while, but the biggest addition was some articles that might be of interest to SEL and OldEngine folks. http://rustyiron.com/articles.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ SHOCKING: Samsung 46" 3D LED TV for $84.95 SPECIAL REPORT: High ticket items are being auctioned for an incredible 90% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4cfa5fae223085c5fbcst02vuc From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Dec 4 09:16:13 2010 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 12:16:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Engine Articles 4 U In-Reply-To: <3588DBF3-EBC8-4E97-99AD-1E1F062ED88C@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Very nice Rob. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:16 PM To: Oldengine.org; Stationary-Engine ATIS Subject: [SEL] Engine Articles 4 U For a long time I've been wanting to add some stuff to the web page. My old layout was clunky and getting hard to manage, so I neglected the site entirely. Since we've had more than our share of rain over the past couple weeks, there was plenty of "indoors time," and I got the opportunity to tackle the problem. Most everything is the same as it's been for a while, but the biggest addition was some articles that might be of interest to SEL and OldEngine folks. http://rustyiron.com/articles.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3294 - Release Date: 12/03/10 07:34:00 From rotigel at me.com Sat Dec 4 13:44:27 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 16:44:27 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Engine Articles 4 U In-Reply-To: <3588DBF3-EBC8-4E97-99AD-1E1F062ED88C@rustyiron.com> References: <3588DBF3-EBC8-4E97-99AD-1E1F062ED88C@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <8AE5B25A-9596-42D1-B0C1-4E0789009975@me.com> "...never been a strong writer" ???????????? BULL SHIT! Dave On Dec 3, 2010, at 9:15 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > For a long time I've been wanting to add some stuff to the web > page. My old layout was clunky and getting hard to manage, so I > neglected the site entirely. Since we've had more than our share of > rain over the past couple weeks, there was plenty of "indoors time," > and I got the opportunity to tackle the problem. > > Most everything is the same as it's been for a while, but the > biggest addition was some articles that might be of interest to SEL > and OldEngine folks. > > http://rustyiron.com/articles.html From dombros2 at clearmail.com.au Sun Dec 5 11:11:24 2010 From: dombros2 at clearmail.com.au (Ted & Sue Domeney) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 06:11:24 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Engine Articles 4U Message-ID: Thanks for the updated posting Rob, good stuff. Interested to see the story on Bean sprayers. I used them for many years, and theres two wrecks down the yard somewhere :-( I didn't realise the Bean Company started so early. I've only ever seen machines built post WWII in Australia. (But happy to be proved wrong!). They took a strong share of the market in the 1950s athrough 1970s. Thanks again Teddy From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Dec 5 13:53:58 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 21:53:58 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question Message-ID: We've got the trailer building hat on, and are looking at a new trailer, partly to carry the Ruston 1ZHR and also to provide a comfortable living area for us while we are at rallies/shows. In the UK, most folks go camping if they cannot bring a caravan along, as local hotels etc are pretty expensive. The overall length of the body is just over 6.6 metres or just over 21 feet. It will have three axles in a drawbar/front steering axle configuration, maximum weight is 3.5 tons all-up. We are allowed 7 metres for the class of towing vehicle that we have. So, we are limited to overrun braking (surge brakes) and probably mechanical. The front steering axle rotates on its centre pivot, the two axles at the back are in tandem and fixed to the chassis. To provide equalised braking, we have to fit two compensators, one between the front axle and the rear two axles, mechanically weighted to allow double the braking effort to go to the rear axles, and then another equaliser/compensator between the rear axles. To get an idea of the layout, see this image: http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/Drawbar1Iss3.jpg What we are thinking about is the type of braking linkage: 1) Do we go for full hydraulic? Possible but nothing is type-approved. 2) Cables? Easier but they take a lot of maintenance unless you get the newer stainless types. 3) Rods and swivels? Less maintenance and friction, don't know if the parts are still made. Electric brakes are not approved in the EC, we have already looked into that one. With new-build trailers likely to need annual testing soon, we want to make sure that what we build isn't going to be a PITA to look after or get through its annual test, as and when that happens. The front axle pivots on a 75mm vertical steel bar which runs in two large flanged self-aligning bearings, with a thrust ball race taking the vertical loading. Any thought would be appreciated. Half a ton of box section is at the machine shop waiting for a few clear days.... The main body is going to be standard truck body extrusions in ali, with honeycomb sandwich side panelling. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rotigel at me.com Sun Dec 5 15:12:31 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 18:12:31 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46D57E1D-6C99-4BDE-B4D8-3267E8CD1B5B@me.com> Hi Peter, If you are allowed 7 meters, why make the trailer 6.6 meters? Dave PS, At least make it 6.66 meters! PPS, Electric brakes would be the way to go. Sorry 'bout your laws! PPPS, What kind of gun does Rita carry? On Dec 5, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Listerdiesel wrote: > We've got the trailer building hat on, and are looking at a new > trailer, partly to carry the Ruston 1ZHR and also to provide a > comfortable living area for us while we are at rallies/shows. In the > UK, most folks go camping if they cannot bring a caravan along, as > local hotels etc are pretty expensive. > > The overall length of the body is just over 6.6 metres or just over 21 > feet. It will have three axles in a drawbar/front steering axle > configuration, maximum weight is 3.5 tons all-up. We are allowed 7 > metres for the class of towing vehicle that we have. > > So, we are limited to overrun braking (surge brakes) and probably > mechanical. The front steering axle rotates on its centre pivot, the > two axles at the back are in tandem and fixed to the chassis. > > To provide equalised braking, we have to fit two compensators, one > between the front axle and the rear two axles, mechanically weighted > to allow double the braking effort to go to the rear axles, and then > another equaliser/compensator between the rear axles. > > To get an idea of the layout, see this image: > > http://www.stationary-engine.net/Forum/Images/Uploaded/ > Drawbar1Iss3.jpg > > What we are thinking about is the type of braking linkage: > > 1) Do we go for full hydraulic? Possible but nothing is type- > approved. > 2) Cables? Easier but they take a lot of maintenance unless you get > the newer stainless types. > 3) Rods and swivels? Less maintenance and friction, don't know if the > parts are still made. > > Electric brakes are not approved in the EC, we have already looked > into that one. > > With new-build trailers likely to need annual testing soon, we want to > make sure that what we build isn't going to be a PITA to look after or > get through its annual test, as and when that happens. > > The front axle pivots on a 75mm vertical steel bar which runs in two > large flanged self-aligning bearings, with a thrust ball race taking > the vertical loading. > > Any thought would be appreciated. Half a ton of box section is at the > machine shop waiting for a few clear days.... The main body is going > to be standard truck body extrusions in ali, with honeycomb sandwich > side panelling. > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Dec 5 21:25:23 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 00:25:23 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Why? That's just stupid. On Sun, December 5, 2010 4:53 pm, Listerdiesel wrote: > > Electric brakes are not approved in the EC, we have already looked > into that one. From sewell at ohio.edu Sun Dec 5 21:54:11 2010 From: sewell at ohio.edu (Steve Sewell) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 00:54:11 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19B99D227A7E2127EED968AD@[192.168.1.101]> > Electric brakes are not approved in the EC, we have already looked > into that one. > Peter: A good idea as Lucas Electric is made over there. Could you use them if I sent you brakes and a controller?? I would never pull a trailer without electric or air (big truck) brakes. _steve From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Dec 6 01:32:07 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 09:32:07 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: <19B99D227A7E2127EED968AD@192.168.1.101> References: <19B99D227A7E2127EED968AD@192.168.1.101> Message-ID: On 6 December 2010 05:54, Steve Sewell wrote: > Peter: A good idea as Lucas Electric is made over there. Could you use them > if I sent you brakes and a controller?? I would never pull a trailer > without electric or air (big truck) brakes. > > _steve Hi Steve: Nothing wrong with Lucas kit, as long as you buy the right parts. Most of their bad reputation came from components made for the mass market car manufacturers who wouldn't pay for a decent product. The Italians and French also had the same problems. Rolls-Royce used Lucas almost exclusively and had very little trouble, but they paid the right price for what they wanted. Thanks for the offer on the brakes, but as I said in the first post, we are introducing annual testing for trailers, and while it is not likely to look at type-tested components, I don't want to take the chance of having problems. The Australian disc electric brakes look good, but again we cannot use them. Air is an option on trailers below 3.5 tons and compulsory over 3.5 tons. I did look fleetingly at that, but the additional hassle of a compressor and air tanks and proportional sensing/control valves made it look a little awkward to implement, although with the standard brakes it would be fairly easily hooked up, especially with a small spring brake for parking. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From bill at antique-engines.com Mon Dec 6 06:07:56 2010 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 06:07:56 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8477139ddfa58d13cc73f12c4a2d4cfe.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> No kidding - what's up with no electric brakes? Why? I bought a new trailer this past spring - smartest thing I did - sell my old one with NO brakes and get one with brakes on both axles. I found it a DREAM to pull, and the brakes saved my bacon once already. I got a 20 footer for less than the price of a new 18 footer because it was "last years model" It's a bit far forward on this picture (should be back a few inches IMO), but my neighbor loaded it up for me since at that time, my bicep tendon wasn't connected to the bone yet.... http://theamcpages.com/images/javelin/jav-on-trailer-030.jpg My F20 will JUST fit (it's wide), the fenders pop off in minutes, of course the current battery backup for the electric brakes and all. I've made sides so I can load up engines and strap 'em in, and with it lower to the ground, loading them will be much easier than my bed-over-wheels trailer was. Bill > Why? That's just stupid. > > On Sun, December 5, 2010 4:53 pm, Listerdiesel wrote: >> >> Electric brakes are not approved in the EC, we have already looked >> into that one. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Mon Dec 6 07:33:10 2010 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 07:33:10 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question References: Message-ID: <357A27347E5E40BB9640F9A74C091689@Desktop> Hi Peter, since you can't have electric and don't like hydraulic it is pretty well narrows your options. If you bought a commercial trailer what kind of brakes would it be equipped with? Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes jd.kirkes at verizon.net From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Dec 6 09:07:06 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 17:07:06 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: <357A27347E5E40BB9640F9A74C091689@Desktop> References: <357A27347E5E40BB9640F9A74C091689@Desktop> Message-ID: On 6 December 2010 15:33, Jim Kirkes wrote: > Hi Peter, since you can't have electric and don't like > hydraulic it is pretty well narrows your options. ?If you > bought a commercial trailer what kind of brakes would it be > equipped with? > > Jim Hi Jim: It isn't that I don't like hydraulic, it's just that there aren't any ready-made slave cylinders to adapt to the brake-cable-pull type of brakes that we already have on the axles, plus we have to provide a handbrake with an energy store (gas spring usually) which implies mechanical linksages. I will ask Meredith & Eyre about hydraulics, they 'may' have something that I missed when we bought the three axles. A commercial trailer of this size would have cable brakes. Jim #2 (Jim Dunmyer): I agree in principal, Jim, and rod brakes are a preferred option, with just a cable between the front equaliser which is on the swivelling front axle, and the tear of the trailer. The front axle can rotate over 90 degrees each way, so there has to be enough slack for the cable to be able to do its job and not get screwed up. As there is a step in the frame, the cable will probably go to a long vertical swivel that takes it down under the bottom of the step. It wouold be neat to drill holes all the way through the chassis cross-members and run it out of harm's way, but that's probably a hole too far :-)) I've got the pivot assembly mostly drawn up now, the 75mm steel (304 stainless probably) pivot pin and the bearings. I'll convert that into something I can post and that everyone can view. Thanks for the thoughts and comnments so far, we hope to be getting some welding experience with our MIG welder on this project. Our youngest son, Philip, has rebuilt his Land Rover chassis using it, and is now working on his older brother's Landy as well. After years of stick welding, MIG is a big surprise the first time out, but I am just about used to it now. It's a 250A Oerlikon semi-industrial machine, with Argon/CO2 mix for the gas. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Dec 6 09:18:29 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 17:18:29 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6 December 2010 13:46, Jim Dunmyer wrote: > That whole arrangement kinda scares me. Backing one of those rigs is just > like backing a farm wagon: possible, with a lot of practice, but not nearly > as easy as backing a regular trailer. I can see why it's done that way, as > your stated weight of 3.5 tons should have a 3/4 ton truck in front of it, > and you guys don't have those real handy, do you? > > Your plans for a living/sleeping area are good, that's done by many here. The Discovery is 2.2tons unladen, 2.8 or so with full passenger load. The trailer weight allowed with one driver and one passenger is 3.5 tons. Our own trailer should be about 1.2 tons empty and the Ruston on its trolley goes 1.8 tons. With a bit of care over weights as we build, we should be able to keep it below 3 tons. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Dec 6 09:20:40 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 17:20:40 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: <4CFD1A4D.70006@xplornet.com> References: <000601cb9520$1fb46800$5f1d3800$@net.au> <4CFD1A4D.70006@xplornet.com> Message-ID: On 6 December 2010 17:15, Rupert wrote: > ? ? ? ?Is that system approved for road use? It doesn't appear that the > front axle is steered so my first thoughts without further study are that > that system is dangerous. What will happen if one of the front wheel brakes > grabs harder than the other side? My thoughts are that would cause the front > axle to pivot causing a side pull on the towing vehicle. The side pull could > make it very interesting indeed in slippery road conditions. > > Rupert Are you referring to the trailer drawing or the brake layout, Rupert? On both cases, the front axle is a centre-pivot type, Ackerman steering is not that nice to tow on a trailer. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Dec 6 10:31:40 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 18:31:40 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: <4CFD2296.7040307@xplornet.com> References: <000601cb9520$1fb46800$5f1d3800$@net.au> <4CFD1A4D.70006@xplornet.com> <4CFD2296.7040307@xplornet.com> Message-ID: On 6 December 2010 17:51, Rupert wrote: > ? ? ? ?I'm referring to the brake layout. The hitch appears to be attached > to the main frame. It would be a different matter if the hitch is attached > to the front axle thus controlling it's swing. A center pivot front axle > that has brakes with not steering control would scare me. > > Rupert If you look at the top view in that image, it shows the drawbar brake arrangement from the side. The drawbar is attached to the sub-frame with the slewing ring and front axle on it, not the main trailer frame. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rotigel at me.com Mon Dec 6 11:19:25 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:19:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0EE2887C-CBAA-462F-9631-C6B2CA654B23@me.com> > Peter, Are you, then, talking about total weight (ie vehicle AND trailer) or the total weight of the trailer only (ie trailer plus the load on the trailer.)? If the former (and the vehicle weighs 2.2 tons unladen) you won't get much on the trailer before you are overweight! Dave > > The trailer weight allowed with one driver and one passenger is 3.5 > tons. > Peter From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Mon Dec 6 11:40:59 2010 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:40:59 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Trailer brakes - question Message-ID: "Electric brakes are not approved in the EC, we have already looked into that one." Those mechanical brakes, outlawed for years in the Colonies, should be ok. I mean, the earth is flat... The Oz electric discs would be da bomb, but they are out, too. We haven't seen mechanically-linked brakes since the Ford Model A. Seriously, I cannot conceive of a system more likely to NOT work than what you must contrive. This is a long way of saying "dunno how much help we on the other side of pond can be, given we have no experience with such kit". What would be on a new, factory built trailer of similar specification? Can that system be purchased as a kit? Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway From MaytagTwin at aol.com Mon Dec 6 12:24:12 2010 From: MaytagTwin at aol.com (MaytagTwin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 15:24:12 EST Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question...Lucus Message-ID: <22b403.285815ea.3a2ea06c@aol.com> Hi Peter, Lucas certainly earned disrespect here in the U.S. I think their crowning moment was the TR6 which gained a reputation for catching fire while sitting parked in the driveway, compliments of Lucas electrical. Whether or not they were responsible, they did get the blame. Regards, Ron Carroll Clearmont, MO USA PS: Who knows the most Lucas jokes? Prince of darkness, warm beer, and on and on In a message dated 12/6/2010 3:35:29 AM Central Standard Time, listerdiesel at gmail.com writes: Nothing wrong with Lucas kit, as long as you buy the right parts. Most of their bad reputation came from components made for the mass market car manufacturers who wouldn't pay for a decent product. The Italians and French also had the same problems. Rolls-Royce used Lucas almost exclusively and had very little trouble, but they paid the right price for what they wanted. From ron217_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Dec 6 12:36:14 2010 From: ron217_2000 at yahoo.com (Ron Frost) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:36:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] Trailer brakes - question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <772482.92025.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Doesn't someone make disc breaks for a trailer ?Ron Perma Frost ??http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos ? ? --- On Mon, 12/6/10, Bruce Younger wrote: From: Bruce Younger Subject: [SEL] Trailer brakes - question To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:40 PM "Electric brakes are not approved in the EC, we have already looked into that one." Those mechanical brakes, outlawed for years in the Colonies, should be ok.? I mean, the earth is flat...???The Oz electric discs would be da bomb, but they are out, too. We haven't seen mechanically-linked brakes since the Ford Model A.? Seriously, I cannot conceive of a system more likely to NOT work than what you must contrive.? This is a long way of saying "dunno how much help we on the other side of pond can be, given we have no experience with such kit". What would be on a new, factory built trailer of similar specification?? Can that system be purchased as a kit? Bruce Younger??? 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68??? Madison, SD? sluggo54 at hotmail.com??? "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted??? armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter."??? E. Hemingway ??? ???????? ?????? ??? ? _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Dec 6 12:37:49 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 20:37:49 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: <0EE2887C-CBAA-462F-9631-C6B2CA654B23@me.com> References: <0EE2887C-CBAA-462F-9631-C6B2CA654B23@me.com> Message-ID: On 6 December 2010 19:19, Dave Rotigel wrote: >> > Peter, Are you, then, talking about total weight (ie vehicle AND > trailer) or the total weight of the trailer only (ie trailer plus the > load on the trailer.)? If the former (and the vehicle weighs 2.2 tons > unladen) you won't get much on the trailer before you are overweight! > ? ? ? ?Dave Sorry for my bad wording, Dave: The vehicle can weigh up to 2.8tons, but not if you want to pull the maximum trailer weight of 3.5 tons. 2.4 tons vehicle weight plus 3..5tons trailer weight = 5.9 tons gross train weight is the maximum allowed. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Dec 6 12:56:17 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 20:56:17 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: <4CFD4908.000003.00688@FRED-AD0BF44E2E> References: <4CFD4908.000003.00688@FRED-AD0BF44E2E> Message-ID: On 6 December 2010 20:35, FrednAli wrote: > > G'day?all; > > The easiest way to back the trailer is to have a hitch on the front of the towing vehicle, and when at destination, reverse the vehicle?and connect the front hitch and then you can place the trailer anywhere, steering the trailer this way, can out turn the front axle and you can see where you are going with a little assistance, have done this with dog trailers many times. > > My two bobs worth. > > Cheers > > Fred That's what most truckers do as well, Fred, we have a front-mounted quick-disconnect towball and hitch on the wish-list. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Dec 6 13:03:09 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 21:03:09 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question...Lucus In-Reply-To: <22b403.285815ea.3a2ea06c@aol.com> References: <22b403.285815ea.3a2ea06c@aol.com> Message-ID: On 6 December 2010 20:24, wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > Lucas certainly earned disrespect here in the ?U.S. ?I think their crowning > moment was the TR6 which gained a reputation ?for catching fire while > sitting parked in the driveway, compliments of Lucas ?electrical. ?Whether or not > they were responsible, they did get the ?blame. > Regards, > Ron Carroll There's worse than that if you look around, but generally I think they were unfairly singled out. If you want an interesting read, try and get hold of the Lucas history, it's in 2 volumes, green hardbacks, and really worth the money: "Lucas, The First Hundred Years', Harold Nockolds, published by David & Charles Ltd., 1976. ISBN 0 7153 7306 4, Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rfinksr at verizon.net Mon Dec 6 15:41:21 2010 From: rfinksr at verizon.net (rfinksr) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 18:41:21 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Trailer brakes - question References: <772482.92025.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6F45AB41491A4F0B974BD22756168B61@RichardFinkSr> Ron i will chime in on that one. I have a home built trailer total gross weight 5 tons.It has disk brakes on all four wheeles from a 1 ton chevy truck. surge system.it works good i think. just a pain to put in the lock out pin when backing up. Don't know if it is any thing like what Peter is explaining. R Fink PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Frost" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Trailer brakes - question Doesn't someone make disc breaks for a trailer Ron Perma Frost http://picasaweb.google.com/ronfrost217/MyPhotos --- On Mon, 12/6/10, Bruce Younger wrote: From: Bruce Younger Subject: [SEL] Trailer brakes - question To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:40 PM "Electric brakes are not approved in the EC, we have already looked into that one." Those mechanical brakes, outlawed for years in the Colonies, should be ok. I mean, the earth is flat... The Oz electric discs would be da bomb, but they are out, too. We haven't seen mechanically-linked brakes since the Ford Model A. Seriously, I cannot conceive of a system more likely to NOT work than what you must contrive. This is a long way of saying "dunno how much help we on the other side of pond can be, given we have no experience with such kit". What would be on a new, factory built trailer of similar specification? Can that system be purchased as a kit? Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rwenig2 at xplornet.com Mon Dec 6 16:41:04 2010 From: rwenig2 at xplornet.com (Rupert) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 17:41:04 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Trailer brakes - question In-Reply-To: <6F45AB41491A4F0B974BD22756168B61@RichardFinkSr> References: <772482.92025.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <6F45AB41491A4F0B974BD22756168B61@RichardFinkSr> Message-ID: <4CFD82A0.2060707@xplornet.com> They do make disk brakes for trailers. See Rupert > > Doesn't someone make disc breaks for a trailer > -- yvt Rupert Wenig Camrose, Alberta, Canada. email: rwenig2 at xplornet.com http://users.xplornet.com/~rwenig/Home/ From rotigel at me.com Mon Dec 6 18:54:21 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 21:54:21 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: References: <0EE2887C-CBAA-462F-9631-C6B2CA654B23@me.com> Message-ID: <769E23D0-A35F-474F-9B0D-BBCC2DF05C8D@me.com> I now understand Peter. THANKS! Dave PS, Say HI to that good lookin gal with whom you sleep! On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Listerdiesel wrote: > On 6 December 2010 19:19, Dave Rotigel wrote: >>> >> Peter, Are you, then, talking about total weight (ie vehicle AND >> trailer) or the total weight of the trailer only (ie trailer plus the >> load on the trailer.)? If the former (and the vehicle weighs 2.2 tons >> unladen) you won't get much on the trailer before you are overweight! >> Dave > > Sorry for my bad wording, Dave: > > The vehicle can weigh up to 2.8tons, but not if you want to pull the > maximum trailer weight of 3.5 tons. > > 2.4 tons vehicle weight plus 3..5tons trailer weight = 5.9 tons gross > train weight is the maximum allowed. > > Peter From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Dec 7 00:21:16 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 08:21:16 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: References: <4CFD4908.000003.00688@FRED-AD0BF44E2E> <3d2b59b5c9eefdbb83fa0d6e8ac6d694.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: On 6 December 2010 21:00, Roland Craven wrote: > Sounds fascinating - is the hoola-hoop powder-coated or just galvanised? > ttfn > Roland Craven They are supplied in self colour or primer. The low-maintenance versions are probably painted on assembly by the trailer makers, the rubber lip seals wouldn't like going through a powder coating oven. There is a Jost pdf file for their own turntable rings here: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Misc/Jost_1.pdf We are not using that type of pivot on our own trailer. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Dec 7 00:23:08 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 08:23:08 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes - Question In-Reply-To: <769E23D0-A35F-474F-9B0D-BBCC2DF05C8D@me.com> References: <0EE2887C-CBAA-462F-9631-C6B2CA654B23@me.com> <769E23D0-A35F-474F-9B0D-BBCC2DF05C8D@me.com> Message-ID: On 7 December 2010 02:54, Dave Rotigel wrote: > I now understand Peter. THANKS! > ? ? ? ?Dave > PS, Say HI to that good lookin gal with whom you sleep! > Rita says hello, there's a (small) chance that we might sneak over to Zolfo, as we missed our usual trip over in October. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Tue Dec 7 11:20:38 2010 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 13:20:38 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Lucas Message-ID: http://www.mez.co.uk/lucas.html Lucas Information The three position Lucas switch - Dim, Flicker and Off. Alexander Graham Bell invented the Telephone.Thomas Edison invented the Light Bulb. Joseph Lucas invented the Short Circuit. You can get replacement Lucas smoke on this site, as well. Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway From rotigel at me.com Tue Dec 7 16:12:13 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2010 19:12:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes/now Zolfo In-Reply-To: References: <0EE2887C-CBAA-462F-9631-C6B2CA654B23@me.com> <769E23D0-A35F-474F-9B0D-BBCC2DF05C8D@me.com> Message-ID: <9154EFD8-BE32-4378-93EB-BE7DA6D2FA69@me.com> It would be good to see both of you at Zolfo! I should be in my usual place--hope you can make it! Dave On Dec 7, 2010, at 3:23 AM, Listerdiesel wrote: > On 7 December 2010 02:54, Dave Rotigel wrote: >> I now understand Peter. THANKS! >> Dave >> PS, Say HI to that good lookin gal with whom you sleep! >> > > Rita says hello, there's a (small) chance that we might sneak over to > Zolfo, as we missed our usual trip over in October. > > Peter From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Dec 8 04:56:03 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 07:56:03 EST Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT Message-ID: <347bc.19a13293.3a30da63@aol.com> Motorola cell phone charger has quit working. I have an older Motorola cell phone charger with the same identical plug in to phone. Both have output of 5.0v---550ma. Anybody know why the older charger will not work on the newer phone? Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Dec 8 05:34:38 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 08:34:38 -0500 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: <347bc.19a13293.3a30da63@aol.com> Message-ID: <6D7C0058ACC74111AEDCD4CCCC3EDB51@laruecounty.courthouse> The new phones have a "proprietary" charger. The older ones will fit but won't charge the phone. You have to use the new model charger. I ran into the same problem with a phone I got for my son. We went on a trip and I took the old auto charger with us but while it fit, it wouldn't charge the phone. I went to the local phone store and they told me only the new Motorola chargers would work even though the outlet was exactly the same on the old and the new phones. It's a way to make you buy an item you didn't think you needed and for Motorola to make some more $$$$. The "official" reason behind it was that the mini USB cable, which fits the Motorola phones, would sometime carry the incorrect voltage as the mini USB's can be used for a variety of purposes. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Germoamer at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 7:56 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT Motorola cell phone charger has quit working. I have an older Motorola cell phone charger with the same identical plug in to phone. Both have output of 5.0v---550ma. Anybody know why the older charger will not work on the newer phone? Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3303 - Release Date: 12/07/10 From rotigel at me.com Wed Dec 8 05:45:20 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 08:45:20 -0500 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: <347bc.19a13293.3a30da63@aol.com> References: <347bc.19a13293.3a30da63@aol.com> Message-ID: <68B89A86-027E-4881-8DD2-25042812C96C@me.com> The money is made on the "add ons" and NOT on the phone itself! Dave On Dec 8, 2010, at 7:56 AM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > Motorola cell phone charger has quit working. I have an older > Motorola > cell phone charger with the same identical plug in to phone. Both > have > output of 5.0v---550ma. Anybody know why the older charger will > not work on the > newer phone? > > Thanks, > > Tom Schmutz From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Dec 8 06:22:57 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 09:22:57 -0500 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: <68B89A86-027E-4881-8DD2-25042812C96C@me.com> Message-ID: <0841FF8D54E845E3A4BEEF979181AA6C@laruecounty.courthouse> Dave, Its sort of like a local Case dealer used to tell my dad. The dealer sold the heck out of new construction equipment and had a big shop where he worked on them. He was always cheaper on the purchase than anyone else and my dad asked him how he did it. He said "I don't make much on the sale, I make it on the service". Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave Rotigel Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:45 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] cell phone charging OT The money is made on the "add ons" and NOT on the phone itself! Dave On Dec 8, 2010, at 7:56 AM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > Motorola cell phone charger has quit working. I have an older > Motorola > cell phone charger with the same identical plug in to phone. Both > have > output of 5.0v---550ma. Anybody know why the older charger will > not work on the > newer phone? > > Thanks, > > Tom Schmutz _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3303 - Release Date: 12/07/10 From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Dec 8 06:52:45 2010 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 06:52:45 -0800 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: <0841FF8D54E845E3A4BEEF979181AA6C@laruecounty.courthouse> References: <0841FF8D54E845E3A4BEEF979181AA6C@laruecounty.courthouse> Message-ID: We got new android based LG phones, APEX models. We had older LG phones, analog/digital no web, no android. The SAME cables, chargers, car charger, etc. works on both models. Can't say for motorola, but it really depends on the battery more than anything. We were told that anything using the mini-usb (like these do) will interchange. I suspected as much as after-all - USB ALL uses the same voltage and pins. Since the phones will connect to the computer's USB port via the same connector as the charger does, then any of their chargers will work with any of their phones, old or new. At least that's LG. Bill > Dave, > Its sort of like a local Case dealer used to tell my dad. The > dealer sold the heck out of new construction equipment and had a big > shop where he worked on them. He was always cheaper on the purchase > than anyone else and my dad asked him how he did it. He said "I don't > make much on the sale, I make it on the service". > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Dave > Rotigel > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:45 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] cell phone charging OT > > The money is made on the "add ons" and NOT on the phone itself! > Dave > > On Dec 8, 2010, at 7:56 AM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > >> Motorola cell phone charger has quit working. I have an older >> Motorola >> cell phone charger with the same identical plug in to phone. Both >> have >> output of 5.0v---550ma. Anybody know why the older charger will >> not work on the >> newer phone? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tom Schmutz > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3303 - Release Date: 12/07/10 > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Dec 8 07:40:32 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 10:40:32 EST Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT Message-ID: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> Bill, Tommy, Dave, Bit the bullet and plugged the old charger in the newer phone. So far it says it is charging without any complications. We shall see what happens. Worst thing can happen is that Millie will have to buy me a new phone for Christmas! Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From rotigel at me.com Wed Dec 8 08:48:00 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:48:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> References: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> Message-ID: Both the wall charger that I got with my LG a year ago AND the one that I had for my phone just before that have the same end on them. When either is plugged into the wall and the LG phone a message comes up (on the phone) that tells me it "may be" the wrong charger for the LG. Both have worked just fine for about a year now! Dave On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > Bill, Tommy, Dave, > > Bit the bullet and plugged the old charger in the newer phone. So > far it > says it is charging without any complications. We shall see what > happens. > Worst thing can happen is that Millie will have to buy me a new > phone for > Christmas! > > Thanks, > > Tom Schmutz From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Dec 8 09:46:29 2010 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 09:46:29 -0800 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: References: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> Message-ID: <6f9b6258f9ffdd870773e19468c8bae1.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> LG's marketing department talking there. They seem to have more authority than the research and development or engineers....... Bill > Both the wall charger that I got with my LG a year ago AND the one > that I had for my phone just before that have the same end on them. > When either is plugged into the wall and the LG phone a message comes > up (on the phone) that tells me it "may be" the wrong charger for the > LG. Both have worked just fine for about a year now! > Dave > > On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > >> Bill, Tommy, Dave, >> >> Bit the bullet and plugged the old charger in the newer phone. So >> far it >> says it is charging without any complications. We shall see what >> happens. >> Worst thing can happen is that Millie will have to buy me a new >> phone for >> Christmas! >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tom Schmutz > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Wed Dec 8 10:47:35 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 13:47:35 -0500 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: <6f9b6258f9ffdd870773e19468c8bae1.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> References: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> <6f9b6258f9ffdd870773e19468c8bae1.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <354BD6BC-0A7A-4D0F-A886-17DFFF72FA4A@me.com> The phone is one of the best I've ever owned! Dave On Dec 8, 2010, at 12:46 PM, bill at antique-engines.com wrote: > LG's marketing department talking there. They seem to have more > authority > than the research and development or engineers....... > > Bill > >> Both the wall charger that I got with my LG a year ago AND the one >> that I had for my phone just before that have the same end on them. >> When either is plugged into the wall and the LG phone a message comes >> up (on the phone) that tells me it "may be" the wrong charger for the >> LG. Both have worked just fine for about a year now! >> Dave >> >> On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: >> >>> Bill, Tommy, Dave, >>> >>> Bit the bullet and plugged the old charger in the newer phone. So >>> far it >>> says it is charging without any complications. We shall see what >>> happens. >>> Worst thing can happen is that Millie will have to buy me a new >>> phone for >>> Christmas! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Tom Schmutz >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Dec 8 10:49:23 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 18:49:23 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Trailer Brakes/now Zolfo In-Reply-To: <9154EFD8-BE32-4378-93EB-BE7DA6D2FA69@me.com> References: <0EE2887C-CBAA-462F-9631-C6B2CA654B23@me.com> <769E23D0-A35F-474F-9B0D-BBCC2DF05C8D@me.com> <9154EFD8-BE32-4378-93EB-BE7DA6D2FA69@me.com> Message-ID: On 8 December 2010 00:12, Dave Rotigel wrote: > It would be good to see both of you at Zolfo! I should be in my usual > place--hope you can make it! > ? ? ? ?Dave > Would be nice to have a few days of sunshine, and have another look at the gorgeous Saturn IV rocket at NASA! We are stacked out with work at the factory after a really cr*p first half-year, the recent cold weather has done us proud! :-)) Mostly for the rail operators. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Dec 8 11:09:02 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 19:09:02 +0000 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: <354BD6BC-0A7A-4D0F-A886-17DFFF72FA4A@me.com> References: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> <6f9b6258f9ffdd870773e19468c8bae1.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> <354BD6BC-0A7A-4D0F-A886-17DFFF72FA4A@me.com> Message-ID: On 8 December 2010 18:47, Dave Rotigel wrote: > The phone is one of the best I've ever owned! > ? ? ? ?Dave Ours last about a year, then they get replaced. We get hay in the keyboard or screws/nuts & bolts in my pocket scratch the screen, especially the stainless stuff we use, that seems to be very abrasive. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Dec 8 11:35:19 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 21:35:19 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Lucas In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208212211.024e6ff8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 07:00 PM 08/12/2010, you wrote: >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 13:20:38 -0600 >From: Bruce Younger >Subject: [SEL] Lucas >To: > >http://www.mez.co.uk/lucas.html > >Lucas Information > >The three position Lucas switch - Dim, Flicker and Off. > >Alexander Graham Bell invented the Telephone.Thomas Edison invented the >Light Bulb. Joseph Lucas invented the Short Circuit. > >You can get replacement Lucas smoke on this site, as well. > >Bruce Younger > Hi Bruce, Yes, Lucas have for a long time been the target of jibes eg. Q:Why do the Brits drink warm beer A: Because Lucas built their refrigerators!! Much like the "lists" that we belong to - we tease the members that we love for two reasons: i) We love them! ii) They are great guys and take the "ribbing". All for now. Jerry From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Dec 8 11:46:21 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 21:46:21 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208214407.024ec258@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 07:00 PM 08/12/2010, Tom wrote: >From: Germoamer at aol.com >Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > >Motorola cell phone charger has quit working. I have an older Motorola >cell phone charger with the same identical plug in to phone. Both have >output of 5.0v---550ma. Anybody know why the older charger will not work >on the >newer phone? > >Thanks, > >Tom Schmutz > >From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >Subject: Re: [SEL] cell phone charging OT >To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" > >Message-ID: <6D7C0058ACC74111AEDCD4CCCC3EDB51 at laruecounty.courthouse> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >The new phones have a "proprietary" charger. The older ones will fit >but won't charge the phone. You have to use the new model charger. I >ran into the same problem with a phone I got for my son. We went on a >trip and I took the old auto charger with us but while it fit, it >wouldn't charge the phone. I went to the local phone store and they >told me only the new Motorola chargers would work even though the outlet >was exactly the same on the old and the new phones. It's a way to make >you buy an item you didn't think you needed and for Motorola to make >some more $$$$. The "official" reason behind it was that the mini USB >cable, which fits the Motorola phones, would sometime carry the >incorrect voltage as the mini USB's can be used for a variety of >purposes. > >Tommy Turner >Magnolia, KY > Quite Simple Tom, You just got screwed by "Big Business". !!! Jerry From rotigel at me.com Wed Dec 8 12:04:38 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:04:38 -0500 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208214407.024ec258@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208214407.024ec258@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: <3955C89D-D464-4E70-B78A-E9CBA27CEB42@me.com> >> The "official" reason behind it was that the mini USB >> cable, which fits the Motorola phones, would sometime carry the >> incorrect voltage as the mini USB's can be used for a variety of >> purposes. >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY > Quite Simple Tom, > You just got screwed by "Big Business". !!! > Jerry But unlike Big Government (and the TSA) at least he got a kiss! Dave From flywheel at netconnect.com.au Wed Dec 8 12:59:04 2010 From: flywheel at netconnect.com.au (Mark Kennedy) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 07:59:04 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Lucas In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208212211.024e6ff8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208212211.024e6ff8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: <871B283A-4411-47C3-B98D-6196E0109A06@netconnect.com.au> Lucas, better known as the 'Prince of Darkness'. ;) Mark On Dec 9, 2010, at 6:35 AM, Jerry Evans wrote: > At 07:00 PM 08/12/2010, you wrote: >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 13:20:38 -0600 >> From: Bruce Younger >> Subject: [SEL] Lucas >> To: >> >> http://www.mez.co.uk/lucas.html >> >> Lucas Information >> >> The three position Lucas switch - Dim, Flicker and Off. >> >> Alexander Graham Bell invented the Telephone.Thomas Edison invented >> the >> Light Bulb. Joseph Lucas invented the Short Circuit. >> >> You can get replacement Lucas smoke on this site, as well. >> >> Bruce Younger >> > > Hi Bruce, > Yes, Lucas have for a long time been the target of jibes eg. > Q:Why do the Brits drink warm beer > A: Because Lucas built their refrigerators!! > > Much like the "lists" that we belong to - we tease the members > that we love for two reasons: > > i) We love them! > ii) They are great guys and take the "ribbing". > > All for now. > Jerry > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Mark Kennedy Ballarat, Victoria, Australia Registrar for the WING Gauge & Instrument Co. http://www.oldengine.org/members/kennedy 'Training Down Under with the majesty of the South Australian Railways' All aboard the Pichi Richi Railway! http://www.prr.org.au/ *********************************************************** Important - This email and any attachments are confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any effected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender. From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Wed Dec 8 13:28:08 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 08:28:08 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Lucas References: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208212211.024e6ff8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> <871B283A-4411-47C3-B98D-6196E0109A06@netconnect.com.au> Message-ID: Best I heard was Lucas made vacuum cleaners. It was the only thing they made that didn't suck!! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Kennedy" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Lucas > Lucas, better known as the 'Prince of Darkness'. > > ;) > > Mark > From swilliams268 at frontier.com Wed Dec 8 14:09:22 2010 From: swilliams268 at frontier.com (Steve W.) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:09:22 -0500 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: References: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> <6f9b6258f9ffdd870773e19468c8bae1.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> <354BD6BC-0A7A-4D0F-A886-17DFFF72FA4A@me.com> Message-ID: <4D000212.4040905@frontier.com> Listerdiesel wrote: > On 8 December 2010 18:47, Dave Rotigel wrote: >> The phone is one of the best I've ever owned! >> Dave > > Ours last about a year, then they get replaced. We get hay in the > keyboard or screws/nuts & bolts in my pocket scratch the screen, > especially the stainless stuff we use, that seems to be very abrasive. > > Peter Install some of the screen protectors that you can get for IPod type devices. I did that on my new one because I couldn't get a good case for it. -- Steve W. (\___/) (='.'=) (")_(") From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Wed Dec 8 15:47:00 2010 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack Watson) Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 07:47:00 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Lucas In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208212211.024e6ff8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> <871B283A-4411-47C3-B98D-6196E0109A06@netconnect.com.au> Message-ID: <4D0018F4.4070404@optusnet.com.au> On 9/12/2010 5:28 AM, Reg Ingold wrote: > Best I heard was Lucas made vacuum cleaners. It was the only thing they made > that didn't suck!! > Reg& Marg Ingold > Newcastle NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au Just about all the Ford Model A owners I know have replaced their Ford distributors with Lucas. Jack From rotigel at me.com Wed Dec 8 15:53:58 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 18:53:58 -0500 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: <4D000212.4040905@frontier.com> References: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> <6f9b6258f9ffdd870773e19468c8bae1.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> <354BD6BC-0A7A-4D0F-A886-17DFFF72FA4A@me.com> <4D000212.4040905@frontier.com> Message-ID: <5445AC86-28C7-4066-865E-4A536EEED37E@me.com> Hi Steve, What is an IPod? Dave On Dec 8, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Steve W. wrote: > Listerdiesel wrote: >> On 8 December 2010 18:47, Dave Rotigel wrote: >>> The phone is one of the best I've ever owned! >>> Dave >> >> Ours last about a year, then they get replaced. We get hay in the >> keyboard or screws/nuts & bolts in my pocket scratch the screen, >> especially the stainless stuff we use, that seems to be very >> abrasive. >> >> Peter > > Install some of the screen protectors that you can get for IPod type > devices. I did that on my new one because I couldn't get a good case > for it. > > -- > Steve W. From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Dec 8 16:07:55 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 16:07:55 -0800 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> References: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> Message-ID: On Dec 8, 2010, at 7:40 AM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > Bit the bullet and plugged the old charger in the newer phone. So far it > says it is charging without any complications. We shall see what happens. > Worst thing can happen is that Millie will have to buy me a new phone for > Christmas! Well, Tom. I don't think that's the worst thing that can happen. It's funny you should use the word "bullet" in your last post. From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Dec 8 16:08:18 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 16:08:18 -0800 Subject: [SEL] cell phone charging OT In-Reply-To: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> References: <2b7d0.3b22a8b.3a3100f0@aol.com> Message-ID: http://goo.gl/Qc2TV From rotigel at me.com Wed Dec 8 16:11:00 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:11:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Lucas In-Reply-To: <4D0018F4.4070404@optusnet.com.au> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208212211.024e6ff8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> <871B283A-4411-47C3-B98D-6196E0109A06@netconnect.com.au> <4D0018F4.4070404@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <6DF8C723-FA4C-4E04-ADDF-5CD4679BA5DC@me.com> I once owned a Lucas equipped car. For the four years that I owned it I NEVER had to put a dime into it. No oil changes, no rotoers, no NOTHING. I bought it new and four years later sold it with under 200 miles on it. Damn thing just sat in the drive--never could start the damn thing! Dave On Dec 8, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Jack Watson wrote: >> > Just about all the Ford Model A owners I know have replaced their Ford > distributors with Lucas. > > Jack From solarrog at pacbell.net Wed Dec 8 16:34:49 2010 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 16:34:49 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Lucas In-Reply-To: <6DF8C723-FA4C-4E04-ADDF-5CD4679BA5DC@me.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208212211.024e6ff8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za><871B283A-4411-47C3-B98D-6196E0109A06@netconnect.com.au><4D0018F4.4070404@optusnet.com.au> <6DF8C723-FA4C-4E04-ADDF-5CD4679BA5DC@me.com> Message-ID: Not everybody, My model is totally stock >> > On Dec 8, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Jack Watson wrote: >>> >> Just about all the Ford Model A owners I know have replaced their Ford >> distributors with Lucas. >> >> Jack Roger DiRuscio 510-226-2414 office R.E. Realty Experts 41051 Mission Blvd Fremont, Ca. 94539. NABPOP MEMBER Broker Associate # 615513 510-676-3122 cell 510-623-6979 fax REO-PRO, RDC-PRO, Equator, Resnet, & Equi-trak certified. GRI ----- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Dec 9 04:06:33 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 07:06:33 EST Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 Message-ID: <18db04.4a353a7c.3a322049@aol.com> Old charger working just fine so far on the newer phone. Guess I lucked out this time. BUT-lost my regular glasses yesterday somewhere between home and several stops in town and fixing friends garage door. Had sun glasses on, regular ones in a hard case in coat pocket, missing when I got home late in afternoon. Made a number of phone calls and went looking last night for them to no avail. Time to sell out and head for old folks home! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From listerdiesel at gmail.com Thu Dec 9 13:54:48 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 21:54:48 +0000 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <18db04.4a353a7c.3a322049@aol.com> References: <18db04.4a353a7c.3a322049@aol.com> Message-ID: On 9 December 2010 12:06, wrote: > BUT-lost my regular glasses yesterday somewhere between home and several > stops in town and fixing friends garage door. ?Had sun ?glasses on, regular > ones in a hard case in coat pocket, missing when I got home ?late in > afternoon. ?Made a number of phone calls and went looking last ?night for them to no > avail. > > Time to sell out and head for old folks home! Tom: we are ALL getting there, you are NOT alone! I'm OK when we aren't too busy, but things are hectic at present with a lot of railways work coming through, so I start to 'lose' my mobile (cell) phone and have to call the damm thing to find out where I left it :-(( I'm on 24-hour call for the railway and utility customers, so have to have the phone with me 24/7. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Dec 9 14:43:17 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 17:43:17 -0500 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 References: <18db04.4a353a7c.3a322049@aol.com> Message-ID: <007501cb97f2$7942eca0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> I have my checkbook ready to help you Tom!!!! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 > Old charger working just fine so far on the newer phone. Guess I lucked > out this time. > > BUT-lost my regular glasses yesterday somewhere between home and several > stops in town and fixing friends garage door. Had sun glasses on, > regular > ones in a hard case in coat pocket, missing when I got home late in > afternoon. Made a number of phone calls and went looking last night for > them to no > avail. > > Time to sell out and head for old folks home! > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Dec 9 16:50:58 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 19:50:58 EST Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 Message-ID: <13a1da.60e67d20.3a32d372@aol.com> In a message dated 12/9/2010 5:48:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, mr at carolina.rr.com writes: I have my checkbook ready to help you Tom!!!! You boys need to stay in the Kentucky area. Virginia back woods fellows are not as tolerant as the Kentucky fellows and more likely to use guns quicker! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From andyglines at hotmail.com Fri Dec 10 08:03:51 2010 From: andyglines at hotmail.com (Andy Glines) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 11:03:51 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Rosin Message-ID: I have read about you folks making your own belt dressing. I want to make some dressing but I can't find a ready supply of rosin to use in it. Where is a good place to find some rosin? From oldironnut at windstream.net Fri Dec 10 09:01:33 2010 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:01:33 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Rosin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6E616532-9B1E-447E-831A-FA9B5846CE5F@windstream.net> On Dec 10, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Andy Glines wrote: > > I have read about you folks making your own belt dressing. I want to make some dressing but I can't find a ready supply of rosin to use in it. Where is a good place to find some rosin? Know any bull riders? If so check with them but if not a rodeo supply store like has it. Mike From ab4zr at yahoo.com Fri Dec 10 10:15:25 2010 From: ab4zr at yahoo.com (David Brook) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 10:15:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <795614.5799.qm@web33502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You can find rosin at a music store. They have several types. Dave Brook Cary NC --- On Fri, 12/10/10, sel-request at lists.stationary-engine.com wrote: > From: sel-request at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 8 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Friday, December 10, 2010, 12:00 PM > Send SEL mailing list submissions to > ??? sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > ??? http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' > to > ??? sel-request at lists.stationary-engine.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ??? sel-owner at lists.stationary-engine.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific > than "Re: Contents of SEL digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > ???1. Re: SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 > (Listerdiesel) > ???2. Re: SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 (Mike > Royster) > ???3. Re: SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 (Germoamer at aol.com) > ???4. Rosin (Andy Glines) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 21:54:48 +0000 > From: Listerdiesel > Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 > To: The SEL email discussion list > Message-ID: > ??? > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On 9 December 2010 12:06,? > wrote: > > BUT-lost my regular glasses yesterday somewhere > between home and several > > stops in town and fixing friends garage door. ?Had sun > ?glasses on, regular > > ones in a hard case in coat pocket, missing when I got > home ?late in > > afternoon. ?Made a number of phone calls and went > looking last ?night for them to no > > avail. > > > > Time to sell out and head for old folks home! > > Tom:? we are ALL getting there, you are NOT alone! > > I'm OK when we aren't too busy, but things are hectic at > present with > a lot of railways work coming through, so I start to 'lose' > my mobile > (cell) phone and have to call the damm thing to find out > where I left > it :-(( > > I'm on 24-hour call for the railway and utility customers, > so have to > have the phone with me 24/7. > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 17:43:17 -0500 > From: "Mike Royster" > Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Message-ID: > <007501cb97f2$7942eca0$0201a8c0 at mikecomp> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; > charset="iso-8859-1"; > ??? reply-type=original > > I have my checkbook ready to help you Tom!!!! > > MR > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 7:06 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 > > > > Old charger working just fine so far on the newer > phone.? Guess I? lucked > > out this time. > > > > BUT-lost my regular glasses yesterday somewhere > between home and several > > stops in town and fixing friends garage door.? > Had sun? glasses on, > > regular > > ones in a hard case in coat pocket, missing when I got > home? late in > > afternoon.? Made a number of phone calls and went > looking last? night for > > them to no > > avail. > > > > Time to sell out and head for old folks home! > > > > Tom? Schmutz > > Concord,? Va. > > germoamer at AOL.com > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 19:50:58 EST > From: Germoamer at aol.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Message-ID: <13a1da.60e67d20.3a32d372 at aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > In a message dated 12/9/2010 5:48:13 PM Eastern Standard > Time,? > mr at carolina.rr.com > writes: > > I have? my checkbook ready to help you Tom!!!! > > > > You boys need to stay in the Kentucky area.? Virginia > back woods? fellows > are not as tolerant as the Kentucky fellows and more likely > to use guns? > quicker! > > > Tom? Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 11:03:51 -0500 > From: Andy Glines > Subject: [SEL] Rosin > To: stationary engine > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > I have read about you folks making your own belt > dressing.? I want to make some dressing but I can't > find a ready supply of rosin to use in it.? Where is a > good place to find some rosin? ??? > ???????? > ?????? ??? > ? > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > End of SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 8 > ********************************** > From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Dec 11 09:23:29 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 12:23:29 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 15 HP IH Crank Dia. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20101208212211.024e6ff8@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Message-ID: Can someone on the list tell me what the crankshaft diameter is on a 15 HP Famous (or Titan, same crankshaft). Thanks. Tommy From skipl130 at yahoo.com Sat Dec 11 12:03:56 2010 From: skipl130 at yahoo.com (Skip Landis) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 12:03:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] 15 HP IH Crank Dia. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <221261.39098.qm@web112409.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Tommy, probably not much help, but my titan parts book lists the length as 39 1/4" & they are all different lengths according to the book.? skip ________________________________ From: Judge Tommy Turner To: The SEL email discussion list Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 10:23:29 AM Subject: [SEL] 15 HP IH Crank Dia. Can someone on the list tell me what the crankshaft diameter is on a 15 HP Famous (or Titan, same crankshaft).? Thanks. Tommy _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Dec 11 18:02:01 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 21:02:01 -0500 Subject: [SEL] IH SN question In-Reply-To: <46D57E1D-6C99-4BDE-B4D8-3267E8CD1B5B@me.com> Message-ID: <022CB31C92B143C18AE9CDE8674D899D@ckcsdb40cdd57a> My Grandfather ran a roller mill in my small community in the teens and twenties. He had a large IH engine that was used to power the mill. I recently found some info and on it was written the SN of the engine: UL 274. Any of you that have the IH info can you tell me something about what the SN means? Thanks. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From christison at coastalnet.com Sat Dec 11 18:18:03 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 21:18:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] IH SN question In-Reply-To: <022CB31C92B143C18AE9CDE8674D899D@ckcsdb40cdd57a> References: <022CB31C92B143C18AE9CDE8674D899D@ckcsdb40cdd57a> Message-ID: <4D0430DB.4090704@coastalnet.com> Tommy, This is most likely a 20HP engine built between 1912 and 1917, but the list I have doesn't show the UL http://www.oldiron-nut.com/ihc-numbers/ihc-5-a.jpg These are from the IHC factory records that were printed in GEM some time back. Perhaps someone has come up with that letter designation since. Take care, Ken On 12/11/2010 9:02 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > My Grandfather ran a roller mill in my small community in the teens and > twenties. He had a large IH engine that was used to power the mill. I > recently found some info and on it was written the SN of the engine: UL > 274. Any of you that have the IH info can you tell me something about > what the SN means? Thanks. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sun Dec 12 07:55:19 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 07:55:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video Message-ID: <873132.35515.qm@web111721.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Howdy folks, It isn't very good but it is engine related. ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhOhYUL8HbA ? Alan in Michigan From rholtzer at earthlink.net Sun Dec 12 08:38:27 2010 From: rholtzer at earthlink.net (Robert L. Holtzer) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 08:38:27 -0800 Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <873132.35515.qm@web111721.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <873132.35515.qm@web111721.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D04FA83.7070007@earthlink.net> On 12/12/2010 7:55 AM, Alan wrote: > Howdy folks, > It isn't very good but it is engine related. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhOhYUL8HbA > > Alan in Michigan > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > Looks good to me! Congrats! From FRM8198 at aol.com Sun Dec 12 08:57:38 2010 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:57:38 EST Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video Message-ID: <1a6b67.d8fb9b0.3a365902@aol.com> Thanks for taking the time to document this event. Francis In a message dated 12/12/2010 8:36:11 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, rustaholic777 at yahoo.com writes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhOhYUL8HbA From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Sun Dec 12 09:59:42 2010 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 09:59:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <873132.35515.qm@web111721.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <511806.38535.qm@web112618.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> That was a real nice video, good to see the youngsters at a show doing something other than sitting in a lawn chair looking bored. Thanks for posting. Joe Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Alan wrote: From: Alan Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video To: "The SEL email discussion list" Cc: "Old Engine.Org List" Date: Sunday, December 12, 2010, 9:55 AM Howdy folks, It isn't very good but it is engine related. ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhOhYUL8HbA ? Alan in Michigan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sun Dec 12 10:57:13 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 10:57:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <511806.38535.qm@web112618.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <513322.33384.qm@web111710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Those girls were my helpers. I shot that vid in the evening. Most of the day those gals were in one of the apple crates filling bushel baskets with ear corn. The two closest ones are my Great Nieces and the far one is from a family that was displaying about?200 feet from us. All day during the show my sheller is very busy and?I wouldn't have time to shoot a video. Behind where I was standing was another sheller much like mine. I had asked another guy to set his up next to mine. Each sheller did one crate of corn per day. We had six of them to do. It was a blast. BTW, I have done a timed run with me feeding that sheller. If I had four folks with fast hands my sheller could do all six crates in less than a half hour. I would need two folks loading baskets and getting them to the sheller, one to feed the sheller and one to empty the corn and cobs. ? Alan in Michigan --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Joe Prindle wrote: From: Joe Prindle Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Sunday, December 12, 2010, 12:59 PM That was a real nice video, good to see the youngsters at a show doing something other than sitting in a lawn chair looking bored. Thanks for posting. Joe Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Alan wrote: From: Alan Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video To: "The SEL email discussion list" Cc: "Old Engine.Org List" Date: Sunday, December 12, 2010, 9:55 AM Howdy folks, It isn't very good but it is engine related. ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhOhYUL8HbA ? Alan in Michigan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ? ? ? _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From christison at coastalnet.com Sun Dec 12 14:52:19 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:52:19 -0500 Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <873132.35515.qm@web111721.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <873132.35515.qm@web111721.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D055223.90509@coastalnet.com> Great video, Alan! It is always fun to see the young folks involved in the hobby. Thanks for sharing. Do you have any other patent info for Mountville Mfg. Co.? My two hole sheller is obviously a later model, having a rounded cast piece with the name at the back end instead of the angular wood that is on the Hero. It also has a double geared drive mechanism on the hand crank side which is on the opposite side as your sheller. I have searched for this info several times and can't seem to find this model. Ken On 12/12/2010 10:55 AM, Alan wrote: > Howdy folks, > It isn't very good but it is engine related. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhOhYUL8HbA > > Alan in Michigan > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From jlb94 at juno.com Sun Dec 12 15:35:15 2010 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 23:35:15 GMT Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video Message-ID: <20101212.183515.23219.0@webmail08.vgs.untd.com> Nice job Ken, Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "Merry Christmas, (_o_) Happy New Year" ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Ken Christison To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:52:19 -0500 Great video, Alan! It is always fun to see the young folks involved in the hobby. Thanks for sharing. Do you have any other patent info for Mountville Mfg. Co.? My two hole sheller is obviously a later model, having a rounded cast piece with the name at the back end instead of the angular wood that is on the Hero. It also has a double geared drive mechanism on the hand crank side which is on the opposite side as your sheller. I have searched for this info several times and can't seem to find this model. Ken On 12/12/2010 10:55 AM, Alan wrote: > Howdy folks, > It isn't very good but it is engine related. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhOhYUL8HbA > > Alan in Michigan > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sun Dec 12 15:54:09 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 15:54:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <4D055223.90509@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: <762590.42082.qm@web111709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> After I made that video I did some google patent searching and I found this sheller wasn't made very long. What happened is there were three different companies in York, Pennsylvania making simular shellers. None of them used the roller bearings that mine has and they were all geared much the same but they were all different than mine. By 1892 they were making shellers that still had the roller bearings but they were geared like the York ones and it apears like after that date they were all using parts from one company. The one that was set up next to mine was one of those York ones. It was a Hench & Dromgold. Patent number 239552 With no corn in them we flipped the belts off and mine took twice as long to coast down to a stop. One of the Mountville numbers is 472181. ? Alan --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Ken Christison wrote: From: Ken Christison Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Sunday, December 12, 2010, 5:52 PM Great video, Alan!? It is always fun to see the young folks involved in the hobby.? Thanks for sharing. Do you have any other patent info for Mountville Mfg. Co.? My two hole sheller is obviously a later model, having a rounded cast piece with the name at the back end instead of the angular wood that is on the Hero.? It also has a double geared drive mechanism on the hand crank side which is on the opposite side as your sheller. I have searched for this info several times and can't seem to find this model. Ken On 12/12/2010 10:55 AM, Alan wrote: > Howdy folks, > It isn't very good but it is engine related. >??? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhOhYUL8HbA >??? > Alan in Michigan > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sun Dec 12 15:56:34 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 15:56:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <4D055223.90509@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: <115332.7399.qm@web111721.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Mine is a Hero sheller because that is what they called their two hole shellers. They called their one hole shellers Pony. ? Alan --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Ken Christison wrote: From: Ken Christison Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Sunday, December 12, 2010, 5:52 PM Great video, Alan!? It is always fun to see the young folks involved in the hobby.? Thanks for sharing. Do you have any other patent info for Mountville Mfg. Co.? My two hole sheller is obviously a later model, having a rounded cast piece with the name at the back end instead of the angular wood that is on the Hero.? It also has a double geared drive mechanism on the hand crank side which is on the opposite side as your sheller. I have searched for this info several times and can't seem to find this model. Ken On 12/12/2010 10:55 AM, Alan wrote: > Howdy folks, > It isn't very good but it is engine related. >??? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhOhYUL8HbA >??? > Alan in Michigan > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bdb at mchsi.com Sun Dec 12 17:33:35 2010 From: bdb at mchsi.com (Barry) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 19:33:35 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Harry Matthews Message-ID: Hi, Does anyone have contact information for Harry Matthews. I am having trouble with engine ads and don't know what the problem is. If you don't want to give out info over the net please have him contact me at bdb at mchsi. Thanks Barry From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Sun Dec 12 19:13:21 2010 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 20:13:21 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Harry Matthews In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Did you login for enginead? Harry's email is on Stak. regards RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 6:33 PM Subject: [SEL] Harry Matthews > Hi, Does anyone have contact information for Harry Matthews. I am having > trouble with engine ads and don't know what the problem is. If you don't > want to give out info over the net please have him contact me at > bdb at mchsi. > Thanks > Barry > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bdb at mchsi.com Sun Dec 12 19:50:04 2010 From: bdb at mchsi.com (Barry) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 21:50:04 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Harry Matthews In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <588154FDF1C9405DA3121669D991FB6A@Buffystoy> Hi Rick. I can logon to Smokestack but I can't log on to engineads. ????????? Looked on smokestack and didn't see his email. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Strobel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Harry Matthews > Did you login for enginead? > > Harry's email is on Stak. > > regards > RickinMt. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barry" > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 6:33 PM > Subject: [SEL] Harry Matthews > > >> Hi, Does anyone have contact information for Harry Matthews. I am having >> trouble with engine ads and don't know what the problem is. If you don't >> want to give out info over the net please have him contact me at >> bdb at mchsi. >> Thanks >> Barry >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From christison at coastalnet.com Sun Dec 12 21:09:23 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 00:09:23 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Smith Motor Wheel stuff Message-ID: <4D05AA83.6070805@coastalnet.com> After Mark posted his plea for info on the Smith Motor Wheel, I did a bunch of searching in Google books, and wasn't able to find the info Mark was after, but did find some tidbits that might be of interest to those of us not real familiar with these interesting machines. Mostly advertising pages, but a few interesting articles and pictures. Most from around 1917. Hope the files aren't too large to those with dial-up. Many of the files are close to 500kb, so I will apologize ahead of time. Just go to: http://www.oldengine.org/members/christison/resources/smith/ Take care. Ken From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Dec 12 22:58:00 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 06:58:00 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Harry Matthews In-Reply-To: <588154FDF1C9405DA3121669D991FB6A@Buffystoy> References: <588154FDF1C9405DA3121669D991FB6A@Buffystoy> Message-ID: On 13 December 2010 03:50, Barry wrote: > Hi Rick. I can logon to Smokestack but I can't log on to engineads. > ????????? Looked on smokestack and didn't see his email. Thanks Have emailed you directly with Harry's email address. If you go to the Members List, you can click on his name and the option of sending an email or Private Message comes up. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From bdb at mchsi.com Sun Dec 12 23:16:09 2010 From: bdb at mchsi.com (Barry) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 01:16:09 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Harry Matthews In-Reply-To: References: <588154FDF1C9405DA3121669D991FB6A@Buffystoy> Message-ID: <2C721589C6334563BEBBC99CE29AC7CC@Buffystoy> Thanks Peter, the problem has been resolved. Thanks Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Listerdiesel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 12:58 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Harry Matthews > On 13 December 2010 03:50, Barry wrote: >> Hi Rick. I can logon to Smokestack but I can't log on to engineads. >> ????????? Looked on smokestack and didn't see his email. Thanks > > Have emailed you directly with Harry's email address. > > If you go to the Members List, you can click on his name and the > option of sending an email or Private Message comes up. > > Peter > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From avanti_64 at juno.com Mon Dec 13 06:47:24 2010 From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 14:47:24 GMT Subject: [SEL] Joe Prindle where are you??? Message-ID: <20101213.094724.10960.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> Hey Joe, any progress on the R & V governor spring??? Thanks, Joe Kelley ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Mon Dec 13 08:13:30 2010 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 08:13:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] Joe Prindle where are you??? In-Reply-To: <20101213.094724.10960.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <867973.3057.qm@web112614.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> YES. Working on it, emailed you off list..... Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan --- On Mon, 12/13/10, avanti_64 at juno.com wrote: From: avanti_64 at juno.com Subject: [SEL] Joe Prindle where are you??? To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Date: Monday, December 13, 2010, 8:47 AM Hey Joe, any progress on the R & V governor spring??? Thanks, Joe Kelley ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From walking_tractor at yahoo.com Mon Dec 13 17:29:00 2010 From: walking_tractor at yahoo.com (David Myers) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 17:29:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <511806.38535.qm@web112618.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <928001.72062.qm@web55905.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Joe and all, ? I'm definitely NOT picking on anybody but you got me to thinking when you said that about the youngsters at the shows. ? I feel it's our responsibility to make sure there's fun things for the children to do.? They are children and fun for them is very different for them, as it should be.?? Our local show has had the blessings of?a couple that spend the whole show setting up and working the kids tractor games.? This last year we even had? couple of tractor parades just for the kids.? We have been adding on to our playground (appropriately themed, of course).? We have a Farm History Day for the school children in May.? ? I think I'm trying to say that the reason some of those kids are looking bored is because?I let them get bored.? If that is the case then shame on me.? Maybe I need to play a game for a bit or let them take me for a walk (and I can talk to my friends a bit later, thank you).??Don't forget to focus on what they are looking at , it will be so very much worth the time you take. ? Oh, thanks for the video also, the look on the children's face is priceless. ? Thank you ? David ? Off my soapbox now. --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Joe Prindle wrote: That was a real nice video, good to see the youngsters at a show doing something other than sitting in a lawn chair looking bored. Thanks for posting. From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Mon Dec 13 17:47:54 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 12:47:54 +1100 Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video References: <928001.72062.qm@web55905.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ha! David, at Oz engine shows, the PUBLIC, en masse, are only allowed to wander OUTSIDE ALL enclosures, with a slack look on their faces. Take part? Ya gotta be joking! They might get injured!! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Myers" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video Joe and all, I'm definitely NOT picking on anybody but you got me to thinking when you said that about the youngsters at the shows. I feel it's our responsibility to make sure there's fun things for the children to do. They are children and fun for them is very different for them, as it should be. Our local show has had the blessings of a couple that spend the whole show setting up and working the kids tractor games. This last year we even had couple of tractor parades just for the kids. We have been adding on to our playground (appropriately themed, of course). We have a Farm History Day for the school children in May. I think I'm trying to say that the reason some of those kids are looking bored is because I let them get bored. If that is the case then shame on me. Maybe I need to play a game for a bit or let them take me for a walk (and I can talk to my friends a bit later, thank you). Don't forget to focus on what they are looking at , it will be so very much worth the time you take. Oh, thanks for the video also, the look on the children's face is priceless. Thank you David Off my soapbox now. --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Joe Prindle wrote: That was a real nice video, good to see the youngsters at a show doing something other than sitting in a lawn chair looking bored. Thanks for posting. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From walking_tractor at yahoo.com Mon Dec 13 18:58:06 2010 From: walking_tractor at yahoo.com (David Myers) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 18:58:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <518361.60353.qm@web55904.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Reg, ? That just sucks, big time.? There are many a time that the powers-that-be?SEEM to get in the way of common sense, but?once in a while they ACTUALLY?do!!? ? Just thought of a way to get around the rules.? Get this!? Get everyone involved with the hobby, then they aren't spectators, they're participants!!?? Neat, Huh?? (And just who is it that says I have to live in reality?? Surreality is much more to my liking). ? Now don't get me wrong, I am for responsible oversight of our displays and I want no one to get hurt, even if they are being stupid.? I have seen people "testing" the belts while the engine is pounding away under full power, freaky scary.? But we should be able to let people learn by doing, which means getting up close and personal and touching, no ropes. ? I feel for you down there.? I try to remember that as bad as I sometimes think we have it here, there is someplace that is worse off.?? I'm hoping that one of these days I will be able to realize one of my dreams and come down to personally see just how bad off you folks actually are.?? ? David ? ? --- On Mon, 12/13/10, Reg Ingold wrote: From: Reg Ingold Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Monday, December 13, 2010, 8:47 PM Ha! David, at Oz engine shows, the PUBLIC, en masse, are only allowed to wander OUTSIDE ALL enclosures, with a slack look on their faces. Take part? Ya gotta be joking! They might get injured!! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 14 02:43:39 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 02:43:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <322256.67963.qm@web111716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Thanks for the comment, Reg. Would a display like mine be allowed? Yes, There are a couple ways you COULD get hurt by that sheller. ? Alan --- On Mon, 12/13/10, Reg Ingold wrote: From: Reg Ingold Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Monday, December 13, 2010, 8:47 PM Ha! David, at Oz engine shows, the PUBLIC, en masse, are only allowed to wander OUTSIDE ALL enclosures, with a slack look on their faces. Take part? Ya gotta be joking! They might get injured!! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Myers" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video Joe and all, I'm definitely NOT picking on anybody but you got me to thinking when you said that about the youngsters at the shows. I feel it's our responsibility to make sure there's fun things for the children to do. They are children and fun for them is very different for them, as it should be. Our local show has had the blessings of a couple that spend the whole show setting up and working the kids tractor games. This last year we even had couple of tractor parades just for the kids. We have been adding on to our playground (appropriately themed, of course). We have a Farm History Day for the school children in May. I think I'm trying to say that the reason some of those kids are looking bored is because I let them get bored. If that is the case then shame on me. Maybe I need to play a game for a bit or let them take me for a walk (and I can talk to my friends a bit later, thank you). Don't forget to focus on what they are looking at , it will be so very much worth the time you take. Oh, thanks for the video also, the look on the children's face is priceless. Thank you David Off my soapbox now. --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Joe Prindle wrote: That was a real nice video, good to see the youngsters at a show doing something other than sitting in a lawn chair looking bored. Thanks for posting. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Tue Dec 14 03:08:11 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 22:08:11 +1100 Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video References: <322256.67963.qm@web111716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8C0965F837A44F7F820CC34DD641829B@regpc> Aint gunna happen here. ALL fenced, including non running tractors. ONLY exhibitors in any enclosed areas. No kids, wives, etc. allowed unless club members with insurance. No wonder interest is waning and few newcomers taking over. Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video Thanks for the comment, Reg. Would a display like mine be allowed? Yes, There are a couple ways you COULD get hurt by that sheller. Alan --- On Mon, 12/13/10, Reg Ingold wrote: From: Reg Ingold Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Monday, December 13, 2010, 8:47 PM Ha! David, at Oz engine shows, the PUBLIC, en masse, are only allowed to wander OUTSIDE ALL enclosures, with a slack look on their faces. Take part? Ya gotta be joking! They might get injured!! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Myers" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video Joe and all, I'm definitely NOT picking on anybody but you got me to thinking when you said that about the youngsters at the shows. I feel it's our responsibility to make sure there's fun things for the children to do. They are children and fun for them is very different for them, as it should be. Our local show has had the blessings of a couple that spend the whole show setting up and working the kids tractor games. This last year we even had couple of tractor parades just for the kids. We have been adding on to our playground (appropriately themed, of course). We have a Farm History Day for the school children in May. I think I'm trying to say that the reason some of those kids are looking bored is because I let them get bored. If that is the case then shame on me. Maybe I need to play a game for a bit or let them take me for a walk (and I can talk to my friends a bit later, thank you). Don't forget to focus on what they are looking at , it will be so very much worth the time you take. Oh, thanks for the video also, the look on the children's face is priceless. Thank you David Off my soapbox now. --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Joe Prindle wrote: That was a real nice video, good to see the youngsters at a show doing something other than sitting in a lawn chair looking bored. Thanks for posting. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Tue Dec 14 05:55:01 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 08:55:01 -0500 Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <8C0965F837A44F7F820CC34DD641829B@regpc> References: <322256.67963.qm@web111716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8C0965F837A44F7F820CC34DD641829B@regpc> Message-ID: <4CE487F8-9FF6-439B-A04F-529613C1D62A@me.com> But Reg, If it saves the life of just one child............! Dave On Dec 14, 2010, at 6:08 AM, Reg Ingold wrote: > Aint gunna happen here. ALL fenced, including non running tractors. > ONLY exhibitors in any enclosed areas. > No kids, wives, etc. allowed unless club members with insurance. > No wonder interest is waning and few newcomers taking over. > > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 9:43 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video > > > Thanks for the comment, Reg. > Would a display like mine be allowed? > Yes, There are a couple ways you COULD get hurt by that sheller. > > Alan > > --- On Mon, 12/13/10, Reg Ingold wrote: > > > From: Reg Ingold > Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Date: Monday, December 13, 2010, 8:47 PM > > > Ha! David, at Oz engine shows, the PUBLIC, en masse, are only > allowed to > wander OUTSIDE ALL enclosures, with a slack look on their faces. > Take part? Ya gotta be joking! They might get injured!! > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Myers" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:29 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video > > > Joe and all, > > I'm definitely NOT picking on anybody but you got me to thinking > when you > said that about the youngsters at the shows. > > I feel it's our responsibility to make sure there's fun things for the > children to do. They are children and fun for them is very different > for > them, as it should be. Our local show has had the blessings of a > couple that > spend the whole show setting up and working the kids tractor games. > This > last year we even had couple of tractor parades just for the kids. > We have > been adding on to our playground (appropriately themed, of course). > We have > a Farm History Day for the school children in May. > > I think I'm trying to say that the reason some of those kids are > looking > bored is because I let them get bored. If that is the case then > shame on me. > Maybe I need to play a game for a bit or let them take me for a walk > (and I > can talk to my friends a bit later, thank you). Don't forget to > focus on > what they are looking at , it will be so very much worth the time > you take. > > Oh, thanks for the video also, the look on the children's face is > priceless. > > Thank you > > David > > Off my soapbox now. > > --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Joe Prindle wrote: > > > > > That was a real nice video, good to see the youngsters at a show doing > something other than sitting in a lawn chair looking bored. > Thanks for posting. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From swebre at hotmail.com Tue Dec 14 10:09:32 2010 From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 18:09:32 +0000 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Reg, Know it's been discussed before, but I forgot the reason you folks don't tell the national body to get stuffed and start your own shows that ARE fun. Start small and let it grow... -Steve- From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Tue Dec 14 13:15:38 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:15:38 +1100 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 References: Message-ID: <41F85846AAE34CF6883C41D5643F3DE3@regpc> When I first stated my views on this, I was, and am still, condemned by my club as a troublemaker.(To the extent that some wanted me thrown out of the club). The show side of the hobby here, has lost its appeal for me. There are only a couple I bother with now. I am too old and busy with projects, to even give a thought to the future of shows here. I am past caring. (As are a lot of others) Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Webre" To: "sel" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 > > Hey Reg, Know it's been discussed before, but I forgot the reason you > folks don't tell the national body to get stuffed and start your own shows > that ARE fun. Start small and let it grow... -Steve- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Tue Dec 14 14:04:19 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 17:04:19 -0500 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: <41F85846AAE34CF6883C41D5643F3DE3@regpc> References: <41F85846AAE34CF6883C41D5643F3DE3@regpc> Message-ID: Hi Reg, On Dec 14, 2010, at 4:15 PM, Reg Ingold wrote: > When I first stated my views on this, I was, and am still, condemned > by my > club as a troublemaker.(To the extent that some wanted me thrown out > of the > club). You sell yourself short mate. It's NOT just some of your club members that think you are a "troublemaker" It's a lot of people WORLDWIDE believe that! (And we have photographic PROOF to back up our claims!) > The show side of the hobby here, has lost its appeal for me. There > are only a couple I bother with now. We are ALL glad that two of them are Baraboo and Portland! > > I am too old and busy with projects, to even give a thought to the > future of > shows here. Don't know about the "busy" part, but you are correct on the "old" part. (Hell, Marg told me some time ago that it takes you all night to do what you used to do all night!) > > I am past caring. (As are a lot of others) Ok, but keep in mind that a lot of people (worldwhide) still care about YOU! > > > Reg & Marg Ingold Dave From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 14 14:32:22 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 14:32:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <4CE487F8-9FF6-439B-A04F-529613C1D62A@me.com> Message-ID: <476859.90047.qm@web111723.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> It is hard to see but there is a single piece of twine across the front of that sheller. Three years ago I had to almost fight an out of control eight year old brat. He came under the twine and actually was trying to grab the belt. There I stood with my right arm around him fighting to hold him back until I grabbed his seat end with my left hand?and carried that wild mess back to his stupid parents that were just standing there looking. It is just a good thing I got to him on time. It looked like his parents knew it would do no good to tell him NO. I just told them that it wasn't my job to control their kid. Alan in Michigan --- On Tue, 12/14/10, Dave Rotigel wrote: From: Dave Rotigel Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 8:55 AM But Reg, If it saves the life of just one child............! ??? Dave On Dec 14, 2010, at 6:08 AM, Reg Ingold wrote: > Aint gunna happen here. ALL fenced, including non running tractors. > ONLY exhibitors in any enclosed areas. > No kids, wives, etc. allowed unless club members with insurance. > No wonder interest is waning and few newcomers taking over. > > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 9:43 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video > > > Thanks for the comment, Reg. > Would a display like mine be allowed? > Yes, There are a couple ways you COULD get hurt by that sheller. > > Alan > > --- On Mon, 12/13/10, Reg Ingold wrote: > > > From: Reg Ingold > Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Date: Monday, December 13, 2010, 8:47 PM > > > Ha! David, at Oz engine shows, the PUBLIC, en masse, are only? > allowed to > wander OUTSIDE ALL enclosures, with a slack look on their faces. > Take part? Ya gotta be joking! They might get injured!! > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Myers" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:29 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video > > > Joe and all, > > I'm definitely NOT picking on anybody but you got me to thinking? > when you > said that about the youngsters at the shows. > > I feel it's our responsibility to make sure there's fun things for the > children to do. They are children and fun for them is very different? > for > them, as it should be. Our local show has had the blessings of a? > couple that > spend the whole show setting up and working the kids tractor games.? > This > last year we even had couple of tractor parades just for the kids.? > We have > been adding on to our playground (appropriately themed, of course).? > We have > a Farm History Day for the school children in May. > > I think I'm trying to say that the reason some of those kids are? > looking > bored is because I let them get bored. If that is the case then? > shame on me. > Maybe I need to play a game for a bit or let them take me for a walk? > (and I > can talk to my friends a bit later, thank you). Don't forget to? > focus on > what they are looking at , it will be so very much worth the time? > you take. > > Oh, thanks for the video also, the look on the children's face is? > priceless. > > Thank you > > David > > Off my soapbox now. > > --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Joe Prindle wrote: > > > > > That was a real nice video, good to see the youngsters at a show doing > something other than sitting in a lawn chair looking bored. > Thanks for posting. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Dec 14 14:57:46 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 17:57:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <476859.90047.qm@web111723.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <476859.90047.qm@web111723.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00bf7f1614549f6945dbefaef0a1c0cc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Alan, You're probably lucky the "parents" didn't sue you for "molesting" their little precious. They sound like the clueless sort that would do that. See ya, Arnie On Tue, December 14, 2010 5:32 pm, Alan wrote: > It is hard to see but there is a single piece of twine across the front of that > sheller. > Three years ago I had to almost fight an out of control eight year old brat. > He came under the twine and actually was trying to grab the belt. > There I stood with my right arm around him fighting to hold him back until I grabbed > his seat end with my left hand?and carried that wild mess back to his stupid parents > that were just standing there looking. > It is just a good thing I got to him on time. > It looked like his parents knew it would do no good to tell him NO. > I just told them that it wasn't my job to control their kid. From rotigel at me.com Tue Dec 14 14:47:39 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 17:47:39 -0500 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think it's called NO BALLS Steve! Dave On Dec 14, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Steve Webre wrote: > > Hey Reg, Know it's been discussed before, but I forgot the reason > you folks don't tell the national body to get stuffed and start your > own shows that ARE fun. Start small and let it grow... -Steve- From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 14 16:18:27 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 16:18:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] My first Youtube Video In-Reply-To: <00bf7f1614549f6945dbefaef0a1c0cc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <596271.54329.qm@web111709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I guess that is why I didn't put him over my knee and whip on him. I was more tempted to whip THEM. Either deal with the kid or give him another pill like most parents do with ADHD kids. ? Alan in Michigan --- On Tue, 12/14/10, Arnie Fero wrote: From: Arnie Fero Subject: Re: [SEL] My first Youtube Video To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 5:57 PM Alan,? You're probably lucky the "parents" didn't sue you for "molesting" their little precious.? They sound like the clueless sort that would do that. See ya,? Arnie On Tue, December 14, 2010 5:32 pm, Alan wrote: > It is hard to see but there is a single piece of twine across the front of that > sheller. > Three years ago I had to almost fight an out of control eight year old brat. > He came under the twine and actually was trying to grab the belt. > There I stood with my right arm around him fighting to hold him back until I grabbed > his seat end with my left hand?and carried that wild mess back to his stupid parents > that were just standing there looking. > It is just a good thing I got to him on time. > It looked like his parents knew it would do no good to tell him NO. > I just told them that it wasn't my job to control their kid. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Wed Dec 15 02:37:39 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 21:37:39 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 Message-ID: In my spare moments I have still been working on the Austral register. The updated totals can be seen at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austral%20history.html And a basic version of the register with engine images can be found at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austreg/australreg1210web.htm Enjoy! Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Wed Dec 15 02:39:00 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 21:39:00 +1100 Subject: [SEL] OT Our new helper Message-ID: We are slowly catching up on everything. Little Samuel is now over two weeks old and doing very well. Thanks to all who sent congratulations both on and off list. Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Dec 15 03:51:52 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 06:51:52 EST Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 Message-ID: <38b87.31b1eba1.3a3a05d8@aol.com> In a message dated 12/14/2010 5:17:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, rotigel at me.com writes: Ok, but keep in mind that a lot of people (worldwhide) still care about YOU! Dave, you sure are mellowing in your old age! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Dec 15 09:04:35 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:04:35 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9e239f3f79a401d2fd9db335dd3c022e.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> So Patrick, Is Sam listed in the register as the youngest Austral ownber in the world? 8-)) See ya, Arnie On Wed, December 15, 2010 5:37 am, Patrick Livingstone wrote: > In my spare moments I have still been working on the Austral register. The > updated totals can be seen at: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austral%20history.html > > And a basic version of the register with engine images can be found at: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austreg/australreg1210web.htm From rotigel at me.com Wed Dec 15 13:20:54 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:20:54 -0500 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: <38b87.31b1eba1.3a3a05d8@aol.com> References: <38b87.31b1eba1.3a3a05d8@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi Tom, It's just due to the season. Just wait until the first of the year! Dave On Dec 15, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > Dave, you sure are mellowing in your old age! > > Tom Schmutz From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Dec 15 16:35:08 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 19:35:08 EST Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 Message-ID: In a message dated 12/15/2010 4:25:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, rotigel at me.com writes: Just wait until the first of the year! Yep, winter will have set for a while! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From christison at coastalnet.com Fri Dec 17 05:29:12 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 08:29:12 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Another mystery engine Message-ID: <4D0B65A8.5020205@coastalnet.com> I received pictures and information about an engine made in the USA which found its way to the UK and the owner is trying to find info on it. Just go to: http://www.oldengine.org/members/christison/mystery/miles/ for pictures, etc. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Ken From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Dec 17 05:47:20 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 05:47:20 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Another mystery engine In-Reply-To: <4D0B65A8.5020205@coastalnet.com> References: <4D0B65A8.5020205@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: <4C84A063-C83D-46B5-800D-2C5BFA084A8F@rustyiron.com> On Dec 17, 2010, at 5:29 AM, Ken Christison wrote: > I received pictures and information about an engine made in the USA > which found its way to the UK and the owner is trying to find info > on it. Just go to: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/christison/mystery/miles/ > for pictures, etc. It's definitely a Howard. They built engines in the mid-40s, until they were bought out by Davey, Paxman, and Company in 1947. From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Dec 17 08:02:46 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 11:02:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: G'day Patrick, I like that "basic" version of the register. I think I'll do something similar with the Lorenz & Benz register to link in the photos. I can understand why Victoria has a lot of Australs being the home state. Is NSW a nearby border state or does it have a lot of population/farms/industry? Some reason for having so many Australs after Victoria? I was really surprised by how few were in the other states. It reminds me of the "California-built" engines that were never seen east of the Rocky Mountains until stationary engine collectors discovered the hobby and began moving old iron around. When you have some free time (ha-ha) it would be neat if you could add some words on the various business & logistics factors that led to the interesting distribution of Australs. Keep up the good work!! See ya, Arnie On Wed, December 15, 2010 5:37 am, Patrick Livingstone wrote: > In my spare moments I have still been working on the Austral register. The > updated totals can be seen at: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austral%20history.html > > And a basic version of the register with engine images can be found at: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austreg/australreg1210web.htm > > Enjoy! > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Fri Dec 17 09:50:52 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 04:50:52 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Arnie, I will probably have to write an article on Austral distribution at some point. The NSW agents for much of the production period of the sideshaft engines was Moffat-Virtue who were one of the biggest machinery agents in NSW (which does border Victoria). In that era NSW & Victoria had the biggest populations in Australia and (more importantly) had much of the agricultural wealth. Both states literally 'rode on the sheep's back' with many fortunes being made shipping wool to the UK. A large number of Australs spent their working life in shearing sheds. Ronaldson-Tippett also had agencies in Queensland, South Australia & Western Australia but they never exported the sideshaft engines as they had a big enough market at home. NSW & Victoria also had very good country rail freight networks at that time (except for the change of gauge at the border) so distribution was very effective. Patrick On 18/12/10 3:02 AM, "Arnie Fero" wrote: > G'day Patrick, > > I like that "basic" version of the register. I think I'll do something > similar with > the Lorenz & Benz register to link in the photos. > > I can understand why Victoria has a lot of Australs being the home state. Is > NSW a > nearby border state or does it have a lot of population/farms/industry? Some > reason > for having so many Australs after Victoria? I was really surprised by how few > were > in the other states. It reminds me of the "California-built" engines that > were > never seen east of the Rocky Mountains until stationary engine collectors > discovered > the hobby and began moving old iron around. > > When you have some free time (ha-ha) it would be neat if you could add some > words on > the various business & logistics factors that led to the interesting > distribution of > Australs. Keep up the good work!! > > See ya, Arnie > > On Wed, December 15, 2010 5:37 am, Patrick Livingstone wrote: >> In my spare moments I have still been working on the Austral register. The >> updated totals can be seen at: >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austral%20history.html >> >> And a basic version of the register with engine images can be found at: >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austreg/australreg1210web.htm >> >> Enjoy! >> >> Patrick M Livingstone >> Leichhardt NSW >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From oldironnut at windstream.net Fri Dec 17 11:27:24 2010 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 14:27:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > I like that "basic" version of the register. I think I'll do something similar with > the Lorenz & Benz register to link in the photos. Isn't this statement akin to Kelley telling us that she's gonna' start working on her Mustang!!! :-)) Mike From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Dec 17 12:21:59 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 15:21:59 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> QUICK!! Someone hold a pressure bandage on this wound... 8-)) On Fri, December 17, 2010 2:27 pm, Michael Tucker wrote: > On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: >> I like that "basic" version of the register. I think I'll do something similar >> with the Lorenz & Benz register to link in the photos. > > Isn't this statement akin to Kelley telling us that she's gonna' start working on > her Mustang!!! :-)) From rotigel at me.com Fri Dec 17 13:27:30 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 16:27:30 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Ad upload notification References: Message-ID: <5DA90ACF-2119-4184-BFEB-80B50EE6463F@me.com> I LOVE it! Dave Begin forwarded message: > From: classifieds at oldengine.net > Date: December 17, 2010 2:46:29 PM EST > To: rotigel at me.com > Subject: Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Ad upload > notification > > The Engine Merchant has uploaded one or more ads to a category you > subscribe to. > > Title: For Sale Magneto(Childs Toy Magneto) > Location: Chapel Hill, NC USA > > Do not click reply to this email. Visit Enginads at the link below. > > Description: "The shocker", sold as a child\'s toy, good > harmless fun, one child hold the metal handles, other one turns the > Crank wheel, the faster you turn the more "Juice" is > crated;It works as I have tried it, kinda reminds me of \'Snipe > Hunting\'All original, PP to any zip cod in L-48. To view several > Hit/Miss Engiines/Oilers/Dolls/and antique music boxes go to: www.TheEngineMerchant.com > > Link to the ad: http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=44746 > > See the Hottest Auctions on eBay: http://www.enginads.com/auctions.php > > To turn off subscriptions for this category, click on the following > link: > > http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/misc.php?action=subscribe&sub=2 > > The Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Team > http://www.enginads.com From rotigel at me.com Fri Dec 17 13:29:55 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 16:29:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: I've got your back Arnie! The wound IS in your back, is it not? Dave On Dec 17, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > QUICK!! Someone hold a pressure bandage on this wound... 8-)) > > On Fri, December 17, 2010 2:27 pm, Michael Tucker wrote: >> On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: >>> I like that "basic" version of the register. I think I'll do >>> something similar >>> with the Lorenz & Benz register to link in the photos. >> >> Isn't this statement akin to Kelley telling us that she's gonna' >> start working on >> her Mustang!!! :-)) From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Dec 17 14:31:43 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 17:31:43 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Ad upload notification In-Reply-To: <5DA90ACF-2119-4184-BFEB-80B50EE6463F@me.com> References: <5DA90ACF-2119-4184-BFEB-80B50EE6463F@me.com> Message-ID: <20101217223139.8F4DE9420@smtp.wcoil.com> Seems that the ad has been pulled already. Mark At 04:27 PM 12/17/2010, you wrote: >I LOVE it! > Dave > >Begin forwarded message: > > > The Engine Merchant has uploaded one or more ads to a category you > > subscribe to. > > > > Title: For Sale Magneto(Childs Toy Magneto) > > Location: Chapel Hill, NC USA > > > > Do not click reply to this email. Visit Enginads at the link below. > > > > Description: "The shocker", sold as a child\'s toy, good > > harmless fun, one child hold the metal handles, other one turns the > > Crank wheel, the faster you turn the more "Juice" is > > crated;It works as I have tried it, kinda reminds me of \'Snipe > > Hunting\'All original, PP to any zip cod in L-48. To view several > > Hit/Miss Engiines/Oilers/Dolls/and antique music boxes go > to: www.TheEngineMerchant.com > > > > Link to the ad: > http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=44746 > > Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From christison at coastalnet.com Fri Dec 17 14:48:13 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 17:48:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Ad upload notification In-Reply-To: <20101217223139.8F4DE9420@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <5DA90ACF-2119-4184-BFEB-80B50EE6463F@me.com> <20101217223139.8F4DE9420@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <4D0BE8AD.4090605@coastalnet.com> Still on his webpage: http://picasaweb.google.com/TheEngineMerchant/TheEngineMerchantSHMEnginesRelatedItemsForSale#5351050911436613058 Ken On 12/17/2010 5:31 PM, Mark Shulaw wrote: > > Seems that the ad has been pulled already. Mark > > > At 04:27 PM 12/17/2010, you wrote: >> I LOVE it! >> Dave >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> The Engine Merchant has uploaded one or more ads to a category you >>> subscribe to. >>> >>> Title: For Sale Magneto(Childs Toy Magneto) >>> Location: Chapel Hill, NC USA >>> >>> Do not click reply to this email. Visit Enginads at the link below. >>> >>> Description:"The shocker", sold as a child\'s toy, good >>> harmless fun, one child hold the metal handles, other one turns the >>> Crank wheel, the faster you turn the more"Juice" is >>> crated;It works as I have tried it, kinda reminds me of \'Snipe >>> Hunting\'All original, PP to any zip cod in L-48. To view several >>> Hit/Miss Engiines/Oilers/Dolls/and antique music boxes go >> to: www.TheEngineMerchant.com >>> Link to the ad: >> http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=44746 >> From mr at carolina.rr.com Fri Dec 17 15:26:35 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 18:26:35 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 References: Message-ID: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Is the new Lorenz registry coming before or after the completion of the FERO compressor? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Tucker" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 > On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > >> I like that "basic" version of the register. I think I'll do something >> similar with >> the Lorenz & Benz register to link in the photos. > > Isn't this statement akin to Kelley telling us that she's gonna' start > working on her Mustang!!! :-)) > > Mike > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From christison at coastalnet.com Fri Dec 17 15:46:46 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 18:46:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Ad upload notification In-Reply-To: <20101217223139.8F4DE9420@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <5DA90ACF-2119-4184-BFEB-80B50EE6463F@me.com> <20101217223139.8F4DE9420@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <4D0BF666.904@coastalnet.com> Dave, Here is a book you can download from google books that will show you how to make your own shocker toy. The use is described in about the same way as the one that Larry has. Electric toy making for amateurs: By Thomas O'Conor Sloane Ken >> I LOVE it! >> Dave >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> The Engine Merchant has uploaded one or more ads to a category you >>> subscribe to. >>> >>> Title: For Sale Magneto(Childs Toy Magneto) >>> Location: Chapel Hill, NC USA >>> >>> Do not click reply to this email. Visit Enginads at the link below. >>> >>> Description:"The shocker", sold as a child\'s toy, good >>> harmless fun, one child hold the metal handles, other one turns the >>> Crank wheel, the faster you turn the more"Juice" is >>> crated;It works as I have tried it, kinda reminds me of \'Snipe >>> Hunting\'All original, PP to any zip cod in L-48. To view several >>> Hit/Miss Engiines/Oilers/Dolls/and antique music boxes go >> to: www.TheEngineMerchant.com >>> Link to the ad: >> http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=44746 From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Dec 17 15:48:52 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 18:48:52 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Ad upload notification In-Reply-To: <4D0BE8AD.4090605@coastalnet.com> References: <5DA90ACF-2119-4184-BFEB-80B50EE6463F@me.com> <20101217223139.8F4DE9420@smtp.wcoil.com> <4D0BE8AD.4090605@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: <20101217234847.F3D1D9394@smtp.wcoil.com> Just not on engine adds. Mark At 05:48 PM 12/17/2010, you wrote: >Still on his webpage: >http://picasaweb.google.com/TheEngineMerchant/TheEngineMerchantSHMEnginesRelatedItemsForSale#5351050911436613058 > >Ken > >On 12/17/2010 5:31 PM, Mark Shulaw wrote: > > > > Seems that the ad has been pulled already. Mark > > > > > > At 04:27 PM 12/17/2010, you wrote: > >> I LOVE it! > >> Dave > >> > >> Begin forwarded message: > >> > >>> The Engine Merchant has uploaded one or more ads to a category you > >>> subscribe to. > >>> > >>> Title: For Sale Magneto(Childs Toy Magneto) > >>> Location: Chapel Hill, NC USA > >>> > >>> Do not click reply to this email. Visit Enginads at the link below. > >>> > >>> Description:"The shocker", sold as a child\'s toy, good > >>> harmless fun, one child hold the metal handles, other one turns the > >>> Crank wheel, the faster you turn the more"Juice" is > >>> crated;It works as I have tried it, kinda reminds me of \'Snipe > >>> Hunting\'All original, PP to any zip cod in L-48. To view several > >>> Hit/Miss Engiines/Oilers/Dolls/and antique music boxes go > >> to: www.TheEngineMerchant.com > >>> Link to the ad: > >> http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=44746 > >> > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Dec 17 22:25:55 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 01:25:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp> References: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: <509d3a1fe2d3308d617c76c6b86579d2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hey Mike, With the major shed cleanout in progress, there will soon be Fero compressed air in the shop!! 8-)) See ya, Arnie PS - I think I'll let this latest wound bleed a bit. The color is so festive,,, On Fri, December 17, 2010 6:26 pm, Mike Royster wrote: > Is the new Lorenz registry coming before or after the completion of the FERO > compressor? > > BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! From solarrog at pacbell.net Fri Dec 17 22:27:35 2010 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 22:27:35 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 References: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp> <509d3a1fe2d3308d617c76c6b86579d2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <84A1891F552C4295A329C13B8BE7011E@D6R3D961> There is a company called Ferro than made Inboard marine engines and outboard motors in the teens and twenties Is this the same company or something else? I have never heard of a Fero compressor. Roger DiRuscio, Broker, RDC-PRO, GRI. Equi-Trax, Resnet AMP & Equator Certified REO,BPO R.E. Realty Experts fax 510-623-6979 41051 Mission Blvd. Alameda County. Fremont, Ca 94539 DRE #615513 510-676-3122 cell 510-226-2444 Office Ham radio KG6QKZ CERT volunteer Sales since 1977. NABPOP Member, VREP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Fero" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 > Hey Mike, > > With the major shed cleanout in progress, there will soon be Fero > compressed air in > the shop!! 8-)) > > See ya, Arnie > > PS - I think I'll let this latest wound bleed a bit. The color is so > festive,,, > > On Fri, December 17, 2010 6:26 pm, Mike Royster wrote: >> Is the new Lorenz registry coming before or after the completion of the >> FERO >> compressor? >> >> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Dec 18 04:06:06 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 12:06:06 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Ad upload notification In-Reply-To: <4D0BF666.904@coastalnet.com> References: <5DA90ACF-2119-4184-BFEB-80B50EE6463F@me.com> <20101217223139.8F4DE9420@smtp.wcoil.com> <4D0BF666.904@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: On 17 December 2010 23:46, Ken Christison wrote: > Dave, > > Here is a book you can download from google books that will show you > how to make your own shocker toy. ?The use is described in about the same > way as the one that Larry has. > > Electric toy making for amateurs: By Thomas O'Conor Sloane > > Ken A more sophisticated version was sold as a 'medicinal instrument', and still appear in the UK on ebay occasionally in the Collectables. Weather cr*p again, -10 C or so last night, just been up to feed the nags, water buckets frozen over with 1" thick slabs of ice on top. Nasty job that, breaking it up then fishing the bits out of the water :-(( Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From mr at carolina.rr.com Sat Dec 18 04:17:28 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 07:17:28 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 References: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp><509d3a1fe2d3308d617c76c6b86579d2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <84A1891F552C4295A329C13B8BE7011E@D6R3D961> Message-ID: <000801cb9ead$8a053900$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Roger: The company that made the Ferro engine is a different company. They made a marketable, dependable, economical unit and you can remember this by the 2 r's in Ferro. The Fero compressor folks were very nice people that made at least one compressor, but the family tree had a weak branch and they became international nooklear injumeers instead. Now, sadly, there are no known working Feros in operation. Compressors either! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger DiRuscio" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:27 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 > There is a company called Ferro than made Inboard marine engines and > outboard motors in the teens and twenties > Is this the same company or something else? > I have never heard of a Fero compressor. > > Roger DiRuscio, Broker, RDC-PRO, GRI. > Equi-Trax, Resnet AMP & Equator Certified REO,BPO > R.E. Realty Experts fax 510-623-6979 > 41051 Mission Blvd. Alameda County. > Fremont, Ca 94539 DRE #615513 > 510-676-3122 cell 510-226-2444 Office > Ham radio KG6QKZ CERT volunteer > Sales since 1977. NABPOP Member, VREP > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arnie Fero" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:25 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 > > >> Hey Mike, >> >> With the major shed cleanout in progress, there will soon be Fero >> compressed air in >> the shop!! 8-)) >> >> See ya, Arnie >> >> PS - I think I'll let this latest wound bleed a bit. The color is so >> festive,,, >> >> On Fri, December 17, 2010 6:26 pm, Mike Royster wrote: >>> Is the new Lorenz registry coming before or after the completion of the >>> FERO >>> compressor? >>> >>> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From oldironnut at windstream.net Sat Dec 18 05:20:25 2010 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 08:20:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net> On 12/17/10 3:21 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > QUICK!! Someone hold a pressure bandage on this wound... 8-)) Bwahahahahaha!!!! It's just tough love for you and Kelley! See ya', Mike > On Fri, December 17, 2010 2:27 pm, Michael Tucker wrote: >> On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: >>> I like that "basic" version of the register. I think I'll do something similar >>> with the Lorenz& Benz register to link in the photos. >> Isn't this statement akin to Kelley telling us that she's gonna' start working on >> her Mustang!!! :-)) > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From tchristoff at earthlink.net Sat Dec 18 07:07:41 2010 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 09:07:41 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 Message-ID: <8067935.1292684862035.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Ouch! Tim -----Original Message----- >From: Mike Royster >Sent: Dec 18, 2010 6:17 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 > >Roger: > > The company that made the Ferro engine is a different company. They made >a marketable, dependable, economical unit and you can remember this by the 2 >r's in Ferro. The Fero compressor folks were very nice people that made at >least one compressor, but the family tree had a weak branch and they became >international nooklear injumeers instead. Now, sadly, there are no known >working Feros in operation. Compressors either! > >MR Tim Christoff From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Dec 18 07:43:36 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 10:43:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: <000801cb9ead$8a053900$0201a8c0@mikecomp> References: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp><509d3a1fe2d3308d617c76c6b86579d2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <84A1891F552C4295A329C13B8BE7011E@D6R3D961> <000801cb9ead$8a053900$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: <06691a0ad358570595c93d7c6f2f100b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Roger, For some background on the Fero Air Pump business, check out this page. http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm And don't miss the outstanding tale of the recovery of the first Fero Air Pump now in my personal collection. The author is, of course, that cunning linguist, the GOOD Cloistered Oyster, Mike Royster. http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero2.htm I'm happy to say that I now have three Fero Air Punps now in my collection. As faw as I can tell, all three are runners. I typically get 3-4 emails a year from folks who still own Fero Air Pumps or who just acquired one who are looking for information and are asking the age-old "what's it worth" question. So, who knows, there might be a Fero Air Pump lurking in the back of that garage just down the road. The last one that I got was less than five miles from where I live! See ya, Arnie On Sat, December 18, 2010 7:17 am, Mike Royster wrote: > > The company that made the Ferro engine is a different company. They made > a marketable, dependable, economical unit and you can remember this by the 2 > r's in Ferro. The Fero compressor folks were very nice people that made at > least one compressor, but the family tree had a weak branch and they became > international nooklear injumeers instead. Now, sadly, there are no known > working Feros in operation. Compressors either! > > MR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger DiRuscio" > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:27 AM > >> There is a company called Ferro than made Inboard marine engines and >> outboard motors in the teens and twenties >> Is this the same company or something else? >> I have never heard of a Fero compressor. From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Dec 18 07:46:05 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 10:46:05 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: <4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net> References: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net> Message-ID: I FEEL the love... 8-)) On Sat, December 18, 2010 8:20 am, Michael Tucker wrote: > On 12/17/10 3:21 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: >> QUICK!! Someone hold a pressure bandage on this wound... 8-)) > > Bwahahahahaha!!!! It's just tough love for you and Kelley! From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sat Dec 18 07:40:44 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 07:40:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] Fwd: Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Ad upload notification In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <899832.69650.qm@web111718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I have one Peter. I bought it off EBay several few years ago. (Several few is a term that means I have had it quite a while but I don't remember just when I got it) ? The funniest thing about mine is the company that sold it. It is something like,,, The Paine Medical Apparatus Company. ? Alan in Michigan --- On Sat, 12/18/10, Listerdiesel wrote: From: Listerdiesel Subject: Re: [SEL] Fwd: Antique Tractors + Hit and Miss Engines Ad upload notification To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Saturday, December 18, 2010, 7:06 AM On 17 December 2010 23:46, Ken Christison wrote: > Dave, > > Here is a book you can download from google books that will show you > how to make your own shocker toy. ?The use is described in about the same > way as the one that Larry has. > > Electric toy making for amateurs: By Thomas O'Conor Sloane > > Ken A more sophisticated version? was sold as a 'medicinal instrument', and still appear in the UK on ebay occasionally in the Collectables. Weather cr*p again, -10 C or so last night, just been up to feed the nags, water buckets frozen over with 1" thick slabs of ice on top. Nasty job that, breaking it up then fishing the bits out of the water :-(( Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From solarrog at pacbell.net Sat Dec 18 08:45:02 2010 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 08:45:02 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 References: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp><509d3a1fe2d3308d617c76c6b86579d2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><84A1891F552C4295A329C13B8BE7011E@D6R3D961> <000801cb9ead$8a053900$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: Let me guess It is a methane compressor and release Bio unit. Roger DiRuscio, Broker, RDC-PRO, GRI. Equi-Trax, Resnet AMP & Equator Certified REO,BPO R.E. Realty Experts fax 510-623-6979 41051 Mission Blvd. Alameda County. Fremont, Ca 94539 DRE #615513 510-676-3122 cell 510-226-2444 Office Ham radio KG6QKZ CERT volunteer Sales since 1977. NABPOP Member, VREP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 > Roger: > > The company that made the Ferro engine is a different company. They made > a marketable, dependable, economical unit and you can remember this by the > 2 > r's in Ferro. The Fero compressor folks were very nice people that made > at > least one compressor, but the family tree had a weak branch and they > became > international nooklear injumeers instead. Now, sadly, there are no known > working Feros in operation. Compressors either! > > MR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger DiRuscio" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:27 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 > > >> There is a company called Ferro than made Inboard marine engines and >> outboard motors in the teens and twenties >> Is this the same company or something else? >> I have never heard of a Fero compressor. >> >> Roger DiRuscio, Broker, RDC-PRO, GRI. >> Equi-Trax, Resnet AMP & Equator Certified REO,BPO >> R.E. Realty Experts fax 510-623-6979 >> 41051 Mission Blvd. Alameda County. >> Fremont, Ca 94539 DRE #615513 >> 510-676-3122 cell 510-226-2444 Office >> Ham radio KG6QKZ CERT volunteer >> Sales since 1977. NABPOP Member, VREP >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Arnie Fero" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:25 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 >> >> >>> Hey Mike, >>> >>> With the major shed cleanout in progress, there will soon be Fero >>> compressed air in >>> the shop!! 8-)) >>> >>> See ya, Arnie >>> >>> PS - I think I'll let this latest wound bleed a bit. The color is so >>> festive,,, >>> >>> On Fri, December 17, 2010 6:26 pm, Mike Royster wrote: >>>> Is the new Lorenz registry coming before or after the completion of the >>>> FERO >>>> compressor? >>>> >>>> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From mr at carolina.rr.com Sat Dec 18 10:08:09 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 13:08:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 References: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp><509d3a1fe2d3308d617c76c6b86579d2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><84A1891F552C4295A329C13B8BE7011E@D6R3D961><000801cb9ead$8a053900$0201a8c0@mikecomp> <06691a0ad358570595c93d7c6f2f100b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <004001cb9ede$877d3850$0201a8c0@mikecomp> This is my favorite quote from Arnie. " As far as I can tell, all three are runners." Translated into English = "they look like they might run, but as for now they are in a pile on the floor, and any minute now, I'm going to start on that. Where is the beer?" From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Dec 18 12:09:58 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:09:58 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: <004001cb9ede$877d3850$0201a8c0@mikecomp> References: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp><509d3a1fe2d3308d617c76c6b86579d2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><84A1891F552C4295A329C13B8BE7011E@D6R3D961><000801cb9ead$8a053900$0201a8c0@mikecomp> <06691a0ad358570595c93d7c6f2f100b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <004001cb9ede$877d3850$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: Damn, its TOUGH when you hang with these guys for YEARS.... 8-)) On Sat, December 18, 2010 1:08 pm, Mike Royster wrote: > This is my favorite quote from Arnie. " As far as I can tell, all three > are runners." Translated into English = "they look like they might run, > but as for now they are in a pile on the floor, and any minute now, I'm > going to start on that. Where is the beer?" From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Sat Dec 18 12:00:35 2010 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (Craig Morrison) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 20:00:35 -0000 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 References: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp><509d3a1fe2d3308d617c76c6b86579d2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><84A1891F552C4295A329C13B8BE7011E@D6R3D961><000801cb9ead$8a053900$0201a8c0@mikecomp><06691a0ad358570595c93d7c6f2f100b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <004001cb9ede$877d3850$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: <57B46C13F6884A8CADC338D42B3AF4B0@craig8b4f43368> Mike, Sure you don't mean where is the CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARR...................??? Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 > This is my favorite quote from Arnie. " As far as I can tell, all three > are runners." Translated into English = "they look like they might run, > but as for now they are in a pile on the floor, and any minute now, I'm > going to start on that. Where is the beer?" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Sat Dec 18 13:28:29 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 16:28:29 EST Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 Message-ID: In a message dated 12/18/2010 10:35:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, fero_ah at city-net.com writes: _http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/arnie/fero.htm) Arnie That is a great family history to the past! My fathers grandfather had some kind of paper products business in Pittsburgh and when he passed away the family had a falling out over the business and all was discontinued. Probably predecessor to Weyerhaeuser or some other famous paper business and I could have been rich! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From Germoamer at aol.com Sat Dec 18 13:42:28 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 16:42:28 EST Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 Message-ID: In a message dated 12/18/2010 3:06:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, fero_ah at city-net.com writes: Translated into English = "they look like they might run, > but as for now they are in a pile on the floor, and any minute now, I'm > going to start on that. Where is the beer?" Arnie, Some advice from Dr. Phil for that problem: I am passing this on to you because it definitely works, and we could all use a little more calmness in our lives. By following simple advice heard on the Dr. Phil show, you too can find inner peace. Dr Phil proclaimed, "The way to achieve inner peace is to finish all the things you have started and have never finished." So, I looked around my house to see all the things I started and hadn't finished, and before leaving the house this morning, I finished off a bottle of White Zinfandel, a bottle of Bailey's Irish Cream, a package of Oreos, the remainder of my old Prozac prescription, the rest of the cheesecake, some Doritos, and a box of chocolates, and a half bottle of scotch. You have no idea how freaking good I feel right now. Pass this on to those whom you think might be in need of inner peace. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From mr at carolina.rr.com Sat Dec 18 14:13:24 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 17:13:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 References: <005e01cb9e41$d9158480$0201a8c0@mikecomp><509d3a1fe2d3308d617c76c6b86579d2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><84A1891F552C4295A329C13B8BE7011E@D6R3D961><000801cb9ead$8a053900$0201a8c0@mikecomp><06691a0ad358570595c93d7c6f2f100b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><004001cb9ede$877d3850$0201a8c0@mikecomp> <57B46C13F6884A8CADC338D42B3AF4B0@craig8b4f43368> Message-ID: <00fe01cb9f00$ca67fca0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Ahhhhhhh, memories of Portland......... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Morrison" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 > Mike, > Sure you don't mean where is the > CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARR...................??? > > Craig > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Royster" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 6:08 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 > > >> This is my favorite quote from Arnie. " As far as I can tell, all three >> are runners." Translated into English = "they look like they might run, >> but as for now they are in a pile on the floor, and any minute now, I'm >> going to start on that. Where is the beer?" >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Dec 18 18:14:43 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 21:14:43 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Austral register December 2010 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9c4960b8bc602f40c643f04b23a76848.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> ROFLMAO!!! I love it! THAT sounds like a plan for the holiday. I think I'll start immediately. 8-)) See ya, Arnie On Sat, December 18, 2010 4:42 pm, Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > Arnie, Some advice from Dr. Phil for that problem: > > I am passing this on to you because it definitely works, and we could all > use a little more calmness in our lives. By following simple advice heard > on the Dr. Phil show, you too can find inner peace. Dr Phil proclaimed, "The > way to achieve inner peace is to finish all the things you have started > and have never finished." > > So, I looked around my house to see all the things I started and hadn't > finished, and before leaving the house this morning, I finished off a bottle > of White Zinfandel, a bottle of Bailey's Irish Cream, a package of Oreos, > the remainder of my old Prozac prescription, the rest of the cheesecake, some > Doritos, and a box of chocolates, and a half bottle of scotch. > > You have no idea how freaking good I feel right now. > Pass this on to those whom you think might be in need of inner peace. From jerrye at databak.co.za Sun Dec 19 08:24:18 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 18:24:18 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Misfortune in Old Engine land. Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101219182148.00e1fa58@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Sorry all this went to the Oldengine List yesterday but I forgot to cc the S.E.L. list. Hi All, I've been off the net (and lists) for a few days. We've been having very heavy rain and flooding here. I live next to a small river and it rose to it's highest level in over 40 years. Fortunately my house and other buildings are high up and not in any danger of flooding at all. My only damage was a roof that started leaking and soaked my computer. I just finished fitting a new main board a few hours ago and am "catching up" on all the list mail. My good friend Neville Botha was not so fortunate. He lives about 6 or 7 Kms. downstream from me and was flooded out. I and a few other engine friends spent most of Thursday and Friday trying to move his possessions to safety. He lives in a split level home and most of his house as well as his engine museum/showroom is on the higher level and has never been threatened with flooding since he moved there (more than 40 years ago) so we concentrated on the lower level. Unfortunately, during a few hours on Thursday night the river rose by about 2.5 metres and entered the top level of his home as well as his workshops and museum. Most of the smaller engines seen in the above link were either fully or partially submerged. The larger Rustons and the Fielding which are mounted on concrete plinths were spared - he also has various vintage cars but apart from an E Type Jag which was flooded, the others came off lightly. I feel devastated for Neville - his collection has been built up over a lifetime and is one of the best in South Africa ! Making matters worse is that Neville injured his knee earlier in the year and is battling to recover - he has been using crutches for the last few months (he is well into his 70's). Anyway, both he and his wife are very positive people and have accepted what has happened very well. I called in at his place at about midday today and he had already drained all the oil and water out of his Petters (his passion) and was starting to get them cleaned up. His son is also helping him and was busy getting the "E" Type cleaned up and dry. This river only has it's source about 50 Kms north of us but due to the spread of urbanisation over the last 30 years or so the annual floods are becoming more severe. There are now more tarred roads and paved areas in it's catchment area as well as buildings so the rain no longer gets absorbed by the earth but rather is channelled to this small river. Should anyone want to send a personal message to Neville and Luann feel free to send it "Off List" to my address and I'll print it out and give it to them. I am sure he will appreciate this because I always tell him what great people we have on these lists. I did take pictures but Jacqui is flying on a commemorative flight for the "Dakota" today and has taken my camera - that was before my computer was fixed so I could not download the pics. I will do so as soon as she returns and put up a page on my site probably in a few hours time. Reg should have landed in South Africa by now - strangely, I had arranged to collect him on the 23rd and take him meet Neville ! More later friends. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jerrye at databak.co.za Sun Dec 19 08:26:34 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 18:26:34 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Misfortune in Old Engine land./Update Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101219182428.02705200@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi all, I've put the pics here: Thanks to all who sent private messages to Neville - I will deliver them tomorrow. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jerrye at databak.co.za Sun Dec 19 09:34:00 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:34:00 +0200 Subject: [SEL] News about Reg Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101219193047.00e15290@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi all, I spoke to Reg on the phone a few minutes ago. He's arrived safely in South Africa and is with his brother. He says he had an uncomfortable trip out in economy class but is going to change his return flight to business class. Otherwise he and Marg are well. I can't wait to eventually meet him personally. All for now. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jlb94 at juno.com Sun Dec 19 13:21:14 2010 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 21:21:14 GMT Subject: [SEL] Sort of rediculous - almost OT Message-ID: <20101219.162114.19408.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> Hi List, Check out the "Three Spout Yellow Dog Type Heater" I saw on eBay and just HAD to have it. Any idea as to what it would be used for other than the obvious? It looks too good to be a "hand made" item. http://oldengine.org/members/betz/yellow_dog.htm Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "Merry Christmas, (_o_) Happy New Year" ____________________________________________________________ How to Stay Asleep Cambridge Researchers have developed an all natural sleep aid just for you. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d0e778e27bb77ef2edst06vuc From rob at rustyiron.com Sun Dec 19 15:42:15 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 15:42:15 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Sort of rediculous - almost OT In-Reply-To: <20101219.162114.19408.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> References: <20101219.162114.19408.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: On Dec 19, 2010, at 1:21 PM, jlb94 at juno.com wrote: > Hi List, > Check out the "Three Spout Yellow Dog Type Heater" I saw on eBay and just HAD to have it. > Any idea as to what it would be used for other than the obvious? It looks too good to be a "hand made" item. > > http://oldengine.org/members/betz/yellow_dog.htm Pretty cool, Joe. I don't know if you'd call it a yellow DOG... maybe a yellow cerberus... or maybe yellow DOG that drinks from the cooling pond at the nuclear power plant. From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Mon Dec 20 02:28:27 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:28:27 +1100 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: <41F85846AAE34CF6883C41D5643F3DE3@regpc> Message-ID: Things are not as bad at rallies here as Reg's rosy picture seems to portray. Most rallies are very enjoyable with no trouble from officials or safety officers. Frequently the only trouble is if you go looking for it. Unfortunately some rallies have slightly over-zealous safety officers or officials. If they get too over the top the exhibitors simply don't come next time and the show has a unlamented demise. I personally find the Nationals are too over-regulated and most of the fun has gone from them, perhaps that is the nature of big events. The small and smaller big rallies are still pretty good fun. If I believed all I read on the list (and other forums) I would think that most US shows consisted of rows of motorhomes with the odd maytag sitting in front of them and I would be in danger of being run of by but-buggies driven by kids who are too lazy to walk. Of course this may be true but I don't think so. The spectre of of the evil national body is not as bad as it may appear through the looking glass of the list. Patrick On 15/12/10 8:15 AM, "Reg Ingold" wrote: > When I first stated my views on this, I was, and am still, condemned by my > club as a troublemaker.(To the extent that some wanted me thrown out of the > club). The show side of the hobby here, has lost its appeal for me. There > are only a couple I bother with now. > I am too old and busy with projects, to even give a thought to the future of > shows here. > I am past caring. (As are a lot of others) > > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Webre" > To: "sel" > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:09 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 > > >> >> Hey Reg, Know it's been discussed before, but I forgot the reason you >> folks don't tell the national body to get stuffed and start your own shows >> that ARE fun. Start small and let it grow... -Steve- >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From russell at ncable.com.au Mon Dec 20 02:58:52 2010 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:58:52 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas In-Reply-To: References: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net> Message-ID: <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> Well firstly let me say a very merry christmas to all our SEL friends. We are very busy these days and don't get much time to join in the discussions. Saying that we/I do try and keep up with what is happening. Well some time back we decided to import some mighty USA old iron; well partly old iron tossed with some tuperware. The engine result is my new toy which is running okay. I does seem to hunt a little and has run away on me a couple of times; (lucky for me I was hanging on to it) Looks nice sitting next to my Campbell but wont quick run a slow yet! I might have to buggerize around with the governor a little more. enjoy: http://community.webshots.com/album/579332934NPsrSI and Merry christmas to all. regards Russell and Carmel From rfinksr at verizon.net Mon Dec 20 03:34:42 2010 From: rfinksr at verizon.net (rfinksr) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 06:34:42 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Sort of rediculous - almost OT References: <20101219.162114.19408.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Hey Joe that maybe one of a kind. And worth a lot of money. Maybe your ship came in. lol R Fink ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:21 PM Subject: [SEL] Sort of rediculous - almost OT > Hi List, > Check out the "Three Spout Yellow Dog Type Heater" I saw on eBay and just > HAD to have it. > Any idea as to what it would be used for other than the obvious? It > looks too good to be a "hand made" item. > > http://oldengine.org/members/betz/yellow_dog.htm > > > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ "Merry Christmas, > (_o_) Happy New Year" > > > ____________________________________________________________ > How to Stay Asleep > Cambridge Researchers have developed an all natural sleep aid just for > you. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d0e778e27bb77ef2edst06vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Dec 20 11:27:33 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:27:33 +0200 Subject: [SEL] A message to the Greatest People in the world !! Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101220202618.00de32f8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi to all my Friends on these lists, I want to thank you all for all the "Off List" messages that you sent to my friend Neville Botha on the occasion of his property being flooded. You have only served to reinforce the opinion that I have so often expressed and that is "Enginemen (and women) are the greatest people". Thank you, my friends, (and it is an honour to be able to call you "friends"). Allow me to explain! Neville is an "older gent" , he does not understand computers and the Internet - he only remembers the times that, if you wanted info on an engine it would take months (or even years) to get all that info via "snail mail". He cannot believe that so many people have written messages to him within so short a time of his misfortune. (That's all you guys). Neville has been collecting engines (and any other "vintage stuff") since his "teens" - long before many of us (or the Internet) were born. It's a passion with him as I've mentioned previously. (O.K. Maybe he is not as old as Dave :-)) Guys, I'd really like to describe to you all the look of surprise and joy on Neville's face when I presented him with a printout of all your messages but it was beyond description. I swear that it made him feel 10 years younger! His face beamed - he could not believe that so many "strangers" (although I've mentioned most of you over the years) could have written to him. So, once again, I say "Thank you very much" to my friends. You made an "older gent" very happy in this time of distress. I spent the whole day (today) at Neville's place - just trying to help out - I drained the oil (water included) from most of his "smaller/less illustrious engines and generally "did what I could". I will be back there tomorrow and with a bit of luck his showroom should be clean by tomorrow night. On Thursday I've scheduled to collect Reg and take him to meet Neville - Neville has already guaranteed that his big Ruston will run ! Guys (and your Gals) thank you once again for being the "Greatest People In The World" - You have made an Old Mans setbacks that much easier for him to bear. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From bethell at internode.on.net Mon Dec 20 12:10:34 2010 From: bethell at internode.on.net (Jim & Geraldine Bethell) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 07:10:34 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas In-Reply-To: <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> References: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net> <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <8267D81C194D4B2CB897D9C709D338FB@bethell> Hey Russell, Can't wait to see you pull up in the drive with it! regards Jimbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:58 PM Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas > Well firstly let me say a very merry christmas to all our SEL friends. We > are very busy these days and don't get much time to join in the > discussions. Saying that we/I do try and keep up with what is happening. > Well some time back we decided to import some mighty USA old iron; well > partly old iron tossed with some tuperware. The engine result is my new > toy which is running okay. I does seem to hunt a little and has run away > on me a couple of times; (lucky for me I was hanging on to it) Looks nice > sitting next to my Campbell but wont quick run a slow yet! I might have to > buggerize around with the governor a little more. enjoy: > http://community.webshots.com/album/579332934NPsrSI and Merry christmas to > all. > regards Russell and Carmel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Mon Dec 20 12:15:56 2010 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 07:15:56 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas In-Reply-To: <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> References: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net> <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <7C7ECF8FEDA24F6B870168D3CCDCA9D2@KerryPC> G'Day Mates She looks great (even if it hasn't got a blue oval 8-)) ) I think the governor problem would be associated with the link between the pedal and your bum. anyway you have done well, a fine piece of American iron Merry Christmas to you the girls and your mum and dad Kerry > Well firstly let me say a very merry christmas to all our SEL friends. We > are very busy these days and don't get much time to join in the > discussions. Saying that we/I do try and keep up with what is happening. > Well some time back we decided to import some mighty USA old iron; well > partly old iron tossed with some tuperware. The engine result is my new > toy which is running okay. I does seem to hunt a little and has run away > on me a couple of times; (lucky for me I was hanging on to it) Looks nice > sitting next to my Campbell but wont quick run a slow yet! I might have to > buggerize around with the governor a little more. enjoy: > http://community.webshots.com/album/579332934NPsrSI and Merry christmas to > all. > regards Russell and Carmel From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Dec 20 13:20:50 2010 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 16:20:50 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas In-Reply-To: <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> References: , , , <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>, <4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net>, , <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Hey Russell, Is that what you got for me and Mike to drive to engine shows while we are down under visiting you? Wow , thanks, you're the best engine pal ever!!! Steve > From: russell at ncable.com.au > Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:58:52 +1100 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas > > Well firstly let me say a very merry christmas to all our SEL friends. We are very busy these days and don't get much time to join in the discussions. Saying that we/I do try and keep up with what is happening. Well some time back we decided to import some mighty USA old iron; well partly old iron tossed with some tuperware. The engine result is my new toy which is running okay. I does seem to hunt a little and has run away on me a couple of times; (lucky for me I was hanging on to it) Looks nice sitting next to my Campbell but wont quick run a slow yet! I might have to buggerize around with the governor a little more. enjoy: http://community.webshots.com/album/579332934NPsrSI and Merry christmas to all. > regards Russell and Carmel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Dec 20 14:49:11 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:49:11 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas References: , , , <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com>, <4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net>, , <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <001d01cba098$1edc7a70$0201a8c0@mikecomp> That is just so like Russell, no wonder he bought a gas pump last time he was here! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas > > Hey Russell, Is that what you got for me and Mike to drive to engine shows > while we are down under visiting you? Wow , thanks, you're the best > engine pal ever!!! Steve > >> From: russell at ncable.com.au >> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:58:52 +1100 >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas >> >> Well firstly let me say a very merry christmas to all our SEL friends. We >> are very busy these days and don't get much time to join in the >> discussions. Saying that we/I do try and keep up with what is happening. >> Well some time back we decided to import some mighty USA old iron; well >> partly old iron tossed with some tuperware. The engine result is my new >> toy which is running okay. I does seem to hunt a little and has run away >> on me a couple of times; (lucky for me I was hanging on to it) Looks nice >> sitting next to my Campbell but wont quick run a slow yet! I might have >> to buggerize around with the governor a little more. enjoy: >> http://community.webshots.com/album/579332934NPsrSI and Merry christmas >> to all. >> regards Russell and Carmel >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Mon Dec 20 15:31:49 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 10:31:49 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas In-Reply-To: <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Noice. Have a Merry Christmas. On 20/12/10 9:58 PM, "Russell" wrote: > Well firstly let me say a very merry christmas to all our SEL friends. We are > very busy these days and don't get much time to join in the discussions. > Saying that we/I do try and keep up with what is happening. Well some time > back we decided to import some mighty USA old iron; well partly old iron > tossed with some tuperware. The engine result is my new toy which is running > okay. I does seem to hunt a little and has run away on me a couple of times; > (lucky for me I was hanging on to it) Looks nice sitting next to my Campbell > but wont quick run a slow yet! I might have to buggerize around with the > governor a little more. enjoy: > http://community.webshots.com/album/579332934NPsrSI and Merry christmas to > all. > regards Russell and Carmel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From jbcast at charter.net Mon Dec 20 16:56:36 2010 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 19:56:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas Message-ID: <1540870951.1359211.1292892999673.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Wrap your ass in fiberglass. Nice looking car. I've finally got started on my 61 Vette, had it for 33 years. It's great the raise you get when the house is paid for and the kids are gone. J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA >> >> Well firstly let me say a very merry christmas to all our SEL >> friends. We are very busy these days and don't get much time to join >> in the discussions. Saying that we/I do try and keep up with what is >> happening. Well some time back we decided to import some mighty USA >> old iron; well partly old iron tossed with some tuperware. The engine >> result is my new toy which is running okay. I does seem to hunt a >> little and has run away on me a couple of times; (lucky for me I was >> hanging on to it) Looks nice sitting next to my Campbell but wont >> quick run a slow yet! I might have to buggerize around with the >> governor a little more. enjoy: >> http://community.webshots.com/album/579332934NPsrSI and Merry >> christmas to all. >> regards Russell and Carmel >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Mon Dec 20 17:03:17 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:03:17 -0800 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10A3B315-7715-4363-A80F-7A591FD24A68@rustyiron.com> On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote: > If I believed all I read on the list (and other forums) I would think that > most US shows consisted of rows of motorhomes with the odd maytag sitting in > front of them and I would be in danger of being run of by but-buggies driven > by kids who are too lazy to walk. Well, Patrick. That pretty much describes every American engine show. But you forgot to mention nearly getting trampled by the hordes of Australians and Englishmen flashing thick wads of cheap dollars and looking to pillage our priceless industrial heritage (not to mention our dwindling supply of muscle cars). Shouldn't you be changing diapers or something? :-) From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Dec 20 18:40:02 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:40:02 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas References: <1540870951.1359211.1292892999673.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Message-ID: <000c01cba0b8$5ef62f50$0201a8c0@mikecomp> I'm halfway there!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas > Wrap your ass in fiberglass. Nice looking car. I've finally got started > on my 61 Vette, had it for 33 years. It's great the raise you get when > the house is paid for and the kids are gone. > J.B. Castagnos > Belle Rose, LA > > >>> >>> Well firstly let me say a very merry christmas to all our SEL >>> friends. We are very busy these days and don't get much time to join >>> in the discussions. Saying that we/I do try and keep up with what is >>> happening. Well some time back we decided to import some mighty USA >>> old iron; well partly old iron tossed with some tuperware. The engine >>> result is my new toy which is running okay. I does seem to hunt a >>> little and has run away on me a couple of times; (lucky for me I was >>> hanging on to it) Looks nice sitting next to my Campbell but wont >>> quick run a slow yet! I might have to buggerize around with the >>> governor a little more. enjoy: >>> http://community.webshots.com/album/579332934NPsrSI and Merry >>> christmas to all. >>> regards Russell and Carmel >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From christison at coastalnet.com Mon Dec 20 19:38:34 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 22:38:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas In-Reply-To: <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> References: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net> <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: <4D10213A.7020500@coastalnet.com> Sweet ride, Russell. Congratulations! We couldn't afford one of these, so bought a little Solstice 3 1/2 years ago. It reminds me a bit of the 53-54 vette. Here is a picture of it taken 2 years ago today: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kenskritters/3122773961/ Merry Christmas to all in case I don't have anything else to reply to;-) Ken Christison Conway, NC On 12/20/2010 5:58 AM, Russell wrote: > Well firstly let me say a very merry christmas to all our SEL friends. We are very busy these days and don't get much time to join in the discussions. Saying that we/I do try and keep up with what is happening. Well some time back we decided to import some mighty USA old iron; well partly old iron tossed with some tuperware. The engine result is my new toy which is running okay. I does seem to hunt a little and has run away on me a couple of times; (lucky for me I was hanging on to it) Looks nice sitting next to my Campbell but wont quick run a slow yet! I might have to buggerize around with the governor a little more. enjoy: http://community.webshots.com/album/579332934NPsrSI and Merry christmas to all. > regards Russell and Carmel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Mon Dec 20 22:51:00 2010 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (Craig Morrison) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 06:51:00 -0000 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 References: <10A3B315-7715-4363-A80F-7A591FD24A68@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <20535F57E6F8488BB0334976F4D6D5CD@craig8b4f43368> Rob, Atleast you left us Scots men out of the equation. Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 > On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote: >> If I believed all I read on the list (and other forums) I would think >> that >> most US shows consisted of rows of motorhomes with the odd maytag sitting >> in >> front of them and I would be in danger of being run of by but-buggies >> driven >> by kids who are too lazy to walk. > > > Well, Patrick. That pretty much describes every American engine show. > But you forgot to mention nearly getting trampled by the hordes of > Australians and Englishmen flashing thick wads of cheap dollars and > looking to pillage our priceless industrial heritage (not to mention our > dwindling supply of muscle cars). > > Shouldn't you be changing diapers or something? > :-) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From enginepaul at gmail.com Tue Dec 21 09:15:55 2010 From: enginepaul at gmail.com (P. Johns) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 09:15:55 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas In-Reply-To: <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> References: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net> <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Nice car! And is tupaware anything like Tupperware? Paul in California PS: If you haven't heard George Jones sing the Corvette Song, go to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_-ABV05pvw&feature=related From russell at ncable.com.au Tue Dec 21 13:58:45 2010 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 08:58:45 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Tupaware Christmas In-Reply-To: References: <392b6e478f561f32cdb13a316a147515.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <4D0CB519.2000609@windstream.net> <90B7E82C-0677-4F71-861F-035890D3D4F1@ncable.com.au> Message-ID: Nope, Tupperware is the modern plastic stuff girls have! Russell On 22/12/2010, at 4:15 AM, P. Johns wrote: > Nice car! > > And is tupaware anything like Tupperware? > > Paul in California > > PS: If you haven't heard George Jones sing the Corvette Song, go to: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_-ABV05pvw&feature=related > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Dec 22 07:08:45 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:08:45 -0500 Subject: [SEL] The Shock of the Old: Technology and Global History since 1900 Message-ID: <4f100a9e190f4f9cb7b717295c9a3149.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Folks, This looks like an interesting book by David Edgerton. http://www.hbs.edu/bhr/archives/bookreviews/82/dhochfelder.pdf $19 at Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Shock-Old-Technology-Global-History/dp/0195322835 See ya, Arnie From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Dec 22 14:56:31 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 00:56:31 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Just a bit early..... Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101222233451.026f64c8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi to all the members of these two great lists (actually 3 lists if you include the bcc to "Slick"), It's a few days early but I need to send this out now as I will be meeting Reg & Marg. in a few hours and assume that I will have my hands full protecting our ladies from "you know who" and will possibly not have time for e-mail once that happens. :-) Every year I try to send out a mail to all the friends I've made on these lists and it usually ends up as a "soppy, sentimental, I Love you all" kinda mail. Well, I've thought long and hard about this years message and guess what I've decided ? Damn, you guessed it again :-) , it's gonna be another one of those mails !!!!!! Thank you all for your friendship, support, camaraderie and for just darn well being there ! I joined the lists in late 2004 (or thereabouts) (could I stop calling myself a "newbie" now ?) and my life changed. I have derived so much pleasure from being a member of your (our) fraternity. Yes, sometimes the posts do get a bit "tense" and yes, sometimes they are "off topic" and yes, sometimes someone will post attachments that cause a lot of stress to the "dial uppers" but eventually, what counts is that we talk (write) to each other. Pretty much every "engine related" question I have ever posted gets answered and often by members who are not active and I meet new friends. I, as a South African, have often needed help in obtaining parts or help in getting parts. It has always amazed me as to how many of you guys have offered that help - without ever having met me. I need you guys to understand that I really appreciate your offers to help and really wish that I can return your kindness and trust someday. In the above I've referred a lot to "guys" but we do have a few active "gals" on the lists. The two that spring to mind are Helen (Dolly) and Kelley. Thank you girls - I love you to bits and thanks for your posts and friendship. Of course Marg also joins in whenever "him in the shed" allows her near the computer :-). I have learnt that I can rely on "engine people" to do good. As a case in point, my friend Neville Botha's recent flooding setback. I suggested personal notes to him - you guys outdid yourselves. There were so many messages sent to him. For 3 days I've delivered printouts to him and each time Neville "beamed" - he was so impressed to get so many messages from strangers. I swear that your messages made it all worthwhile for him. Thank you all so much. What also impressed him tremendously was the number of letters actually mentioning the great collection that he has built up - mention of individual engines (and condition) he has and suchlike made your letters so much more credible than a simple "Get well Soon" message. Thanks again. O.K. Guys and Gals - it's late and I must get my "Beauty Sleep" - have a great CHRISTmas and a prosperous 2011. Forget about those who feel the need to be P.C. - it's CHRISTmas. I look forward to corresponding with you all in 2011. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Thu Dec 23 03:32:36 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 22:32:36 +1100 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: <10A3B315-7715-4363-A80F-7A591FD24A68@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: It is looking good for us Aussies to bring some good American iron over here. The exchange rate is nice at the moment. Maybe Samuel would like a nice Mustang :) On 21/12/10 12:03 PM, "Rob Skinner" wrote: > On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote: >> If I believed all I read on the list (and other forums) I would think that >> most US shows consisted of rows of motorhomes with the odd maytag sitting in >> front of them and I would be in danger of being run of by but-buggies driven >> by kids who are too lazy to walk. > > > Well, Patrick. That pretty much describes every American engine show. But > you forgot to mention nearly getting trampled by the hordes of Australians and > Englishmen flashing thick wads of cheap dollars and looking to pillage our > priceless industrial heritage (not to mention our dwindling supply of muscle > cars). > > Shouldn't you be changing diapers or something? > :-) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Dec 23 04:59:38 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 22:59:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good to see our little Aussie battler ($$$) worth more than that Yankee greenback. It is looking good for us Aussies to bring some good American iron over here. The exchange rate is nice at the moment. Maybe Samuel would like a nice Mustang :) On 21/12/10 12:03 PM, "Rob Skinner" wrote: > On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote: >> If I believed all I read on the list (and other forums) I would think >> that >> most US shows consisted of rows of motorhomes with the odd maytag sitting >> in >> front of them and I would be in danger of being run of by but-buggies >> driven >> by kids who are too lazy to walk. > > > Well, Patrick. That pretty much describes every American engine show. > But > you forgot to mention nearly getting trampled by the hordes of Australians > and > Englishmen flashing thick wads of cheap dollars and looking to pillage our > priceless industrial heritage (not to mention our dwindling supply of > muscle > cars). > > Shouldn't you be changing diapers or something? > :-) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Dec 24 14:00:52 2010 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 09:00:52 +1100 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3A69D845-14CE-42C6-A278-F99617310EF1@ncable.com.au> It's a fun exersise Patrick. Also great to see/enjoy the end result. On 23/12/2010, at 10:32 PM, Patrick Livingstone wrote: > It is looking good for us Aussies to bring some good American iron over > here. The exchange rate is nice at the moment. > Maybe Samuel would like a nice Mustang :) > > > On 21/12/10 12:03 PM, "Rob Skinner" wrote: > >> On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Patrick Livingstone wrote: >>> If I believed all I read on the list (and other forums) I would think that >>> most US shows consisted of rows of motorhomes with the odd maytag sitting in >>> front of them and I would be in danger of being run of by but-buggies driven >>> by kids who are too lazy to walk. >> >> >> Well, Patrick. That pretty much describes every American engine show. But >> you forgot to mention nearly getting trampled by the hordes of Australians and >> Englishmen flashing thick wads of cheap dollars and looking to pillage our >> priceless industrial heritage (not to mention our dwindling supply of muscle >> cars). >> >> Shouldn't you be changing diapers or something? >> :-) >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jneth3 at mac.com Fri Dec 24 16:43:11 2010 From: jneth3 at mac.com (John Neth) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 19:43:11 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Merry Christmas Message-ID: <7D35DB7A-2E27-4CEE-AC3C-8449D585F4BD@mac.com> My wife Linda and I would like to wish all a very merry Christmas, a prosperous and healthy new year, free from natural and man made disasters. If anyone is traveling thru upper east Tennessee, and need a place to hang your hat our home is available. It is small but hope to build a new one someday. John Sent from my iPhone From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Dec 24 16:44:39 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 02:44:39 +0200 Subject: [SEL] The Aussies arrive !!! Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101225024228.01e1f590@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi all, The Aussies arrived - look here: Jerry From rotigel at me.com Fri Dec 24 21:36:02 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (Dave Rotigel) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 00:36:02 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Merry Christmas In-Reply-To: <7D35DB7A-2E27-4CEE-AC3C-8449D585F4BD@mac.com> References: <7D35DB7A-2E27-4CEE-AC3C-8449D585F4BD@mac.com> Message-ID: Good goD John, What the hell are "man made disasters?" Is that something like 9/11 when the f#(%ing Muslims attacked us? Get REAL and lets talk about playing "Cowboys and Muslims!" Dave PS. 1/20/2012--The End Of An ERROR! On Dec 24, 2010, at 7:43 PM, John Neth wrote: > My wife Linda and I would like to wish all a very merry Christmas, a prosperous and healthy new year, free from natural and man made disasters. If anyone is traveling thru upper east Tennessee, and need a place to hang your hat our home is available. It is small but hope to build a new one someday. > > John From rfinksr at verizon.net Sat Dec 25 04:06:19 2010 From: rfinksr at verizon.net (Richard Fink Sr) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 07:06:19 -0500 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ONE AND ALL THE FINK FAMILY From Germoamer at aol.com Sat Dec 25 05:00:09 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 08:00:09 EST Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: Wishing all of our relatives and friends around the world a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Light snow here the early morning in Concord, Va., and from the looks of the tree, Santa has been here. Tom and Millie Schmutz From jneth3 at mac.com Sat Dec 25 06:18:09 2010 From: jneth3 at mac.com (John Neth) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 09:18:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Merry Christmas In-Reply-To: References: <7D35DB7A-2E27-4CEE-AC3C-8449D585F4BD@mac.com> Message-ID: <1A62548D-6891-43A0-9C3B-D131845EB149@mac.com> Could be the big stuff or car accidents etc. Agree with the cowboy part. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Dave Rotigel wrote: > Good goD John, What the hell are "man made disasters?" Is that something like 9/11 when the f#(%ing Muslims attacked us? Get REAL and lets talk about playing "Cowboys and Muslims!" > Dave > PS. 1/20/2012--The End Of An ERROR! > > On Dec 24, 2010, at 7:43 PM, John Neth wrote: > >> My wife Linda and I would like to wish all a very merry Christmas, a prosperous and healthy new year, free from natural and man made disasters. If anyone is traveling thru upper east Tennessee, and need a place to hang your hat our home is available. It is small but hope to build a new one someday. >> >> John > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From enginepaul at gmail.com Sat Dec 25 09:36:58 2010 From: enginepaul at gmail.com (P. Johns) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 09:36:58 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Merry Christmas In-Reply-To: References: <7D35DB7A-2E27-4CEE-AC3C-8449D585F4BD@mac.com> Message-ID: As to: "What the hell are "man made disasters?" " Most of the laws passed by Congress. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Paul in California - raining and the wind is blowing, but I'm inside; so I'm happy. From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Sat Dec 25 10:34:28 2010 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 13:34:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Merry Christmas Message-ID: <108831.2aa4c264.3a479334@aol.com> A man made disaster is when you open your fidge and you rump roast farts at you. Happy Holidays KK In a message dated 12/25/2010 12:47:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, enginepaul at gmail.com writes: As to: "What the hell are "man made disasters?" " Most of the laws passed by Congress. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Paul in California - raining and the wind is blowing, but I'm inside; so I'm happy. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Dec 26 17:18:41 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 20:18:41 -0500 Subject: [SEL] sad notice Message-ID: <000a01cba564$002330d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> It is my sad duty to inform you that my brother Steve's fiancee Dawn passed away last night due to complications from liver cancer. Asheville, NC is under a foot of snow so there are no arrangements at this time. Steve is doing well as can be expected and appreciates your kindness and concern over the past few months. Mike From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Dec 26 18:10:18 2010 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 20:10:18 -0600 Subject: [SEL] sad notice In-Reply-To: <000a01cba564$002330d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> References: <000a01cba564$002330d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: Mike, Steve and Dawn have been and will continue to be in our prayers. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2010, at 7:18 PM, "Mike Royster" wrote: > It is my sad duty to inform you that my brother Steve's fiancee Dawn passed away last night due to complications from liver cancer. Asheville, NC is under a foot of snow so there are no arrangements at this time. Steve is doing well as can be expected and appreciates your kindness and concern over the past few months. > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From kkinney at herculesengines.com Sun Dec 26 18:28:20 2010 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 20:28:20 -0600 Subject: [SEL] sad notice In-Reply-To: <000a01cba564$002330d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> References: <000a01cba564$002330d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: <9189F46F-5E6B-4FFC-AD38-40049D58008A@herculesengines.com> Mike So sorry to hear this news. Please pass our condolences on to Steve. Keith On Dec 26, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Mike Royster wrote: > It is my sad duty to inform you that my brother Steve's fiancee Dawn passed away last night due to complications from liver cancer. Asheville, NC is under a foot of snow so there are no arrangements at this time. Steve is doing well as can be expected and appreciates your kindness and concern over the past few months. > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Sun Dec 26 19:25:36 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 14:25:36 +1100 Subject: [SEL] sad notice In-Reply-To: <000a01cba564$002330d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: Please pass on our deepest condolences to Steve at this sad time. Patrick & Ann On 27/12/10 12:18 PM, "Mike Royster" wrote: > It is my sad duty to inform you that my brother Steve's fiancee Dawn passed > away last night due to complications from liver cancer. Asheville, NC is > under a foot of snow so there are no arrangements at this time. Steve is > doing well as can be expected and appreciates your kindness and concern over > the past few months. > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From listerdiesel at gmail.com Mon Dec 27 01:17:07 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:17:07 +0000 Subject: [SEL] sad notice In-Reply-To: <000a01cba564$002330d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> References: <000a01cba564$002330d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: On 27 December 2010 01:18, Mike Royster wrote: > ?It is my sad duty to inform you that my brother Steve's fiancee Dawn passed away last night due to complications from liver cancer. ?Asheville, NC is under a foot of snow so there are no arrangements at this time. ?Steve is doing well as can be expected and appreciates your kindness and concern over the past few months. > > ?Mike Devastating news, Mike, our sincerest condolences to Steve and to Dawn's family. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From Germoamer at aol.com Mon Dec 27 05:10:07 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 08:10:07 EST Subject: [SEL] sad notice Message-ID: <1c5e9.45d4292d.3a49ea2f@aol.com> Mike, Very sorry to learn of the passing of Dawn. Condolences to Steve. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Dec 27 10:28:41 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 20:28:41 +0200 Subject: [SEL] sad notice In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101227202406.01d50b78@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> Dear Mike, Terrible news. I have sent a message "off list" to you from Reg and I. I doubt that Steve will be checking his e-mail right now. Please look out for it and get it to him. Thanks my friend, Jerry (and also on behalf of Reg) At 07:00 PM 27/12/2010, you wrote: >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 20:18:41 -0500 >From: "Mike Royster" >Subject: [SEL] sad notice > > It is my sad duty to inform you that my brother Steve's fiancee Dawn > passed away last night due to complications from liver > cancer. Asheville, NC is under a foot of snow so there are no > arrangements at this time. Steve is doing well as can be expected and > appreciates your kindness and concern over the past few months. > > Mike From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Dec 27 14:57:42 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 17:57:42 -0500 Subject: [SEL] sad notice References: <000a01cba564$002330d0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: <001001cba619$78b23810$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Thanks Tommy! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Cc: Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] sad notice > Mike, > > Steve and Dawn have been and will continue to be in our prayers. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Dec 26, 2010, at 7:18 PM, "Mike Royster" wrote: > >> It is my sad duty to inform you that my brother Steve's fiancee Dawn >> passed away last night due to complications from liver cancer. >> Asheville, NC is under a foot of snow so there are no arrangements at >> this time. Steve is doing well as can be expected and appreciates your >> kindness and concern over the past few months. >> >> Mike >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Dec 29 09:10:18 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 12:10:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: No Ashes Update? Message-ID: <05751f05acfc3d33eebf96d51687e4c1.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Gee, with all of the Brit and Ozzie members on these lists, I was certain that there would be at least ONE update on the Ashes. Dead silence..... 8-)) See ya, Arnie From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Wed Dec 29 11:17:09 2010 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (Craig Morrison) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 19:17:09 -0000 Subject: [SEL] OT: No Ashes Update? References: <05751f05acfc3d33eebf96d51687e4c1.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <37091FE59E7A4090ABB220C16B3165CB@craig8b4f43368> Arnie, I'm not a cricket fan (the term watching paint dry springs to mind) but it was unfortunate that the English retained the ashes . Seems it's the first time they have done so in OZ for a long time so there is plenty of bleating (and not sheep) about it on the TV. cheers, Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Fero" To: "Old Engine List" ; "Stationary Engine List" Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 5:10 PM Subject: [SEL] OT: No Ashes Update? > Gee, with all of the Brit and Ozzie members on these lists, I was certain > that there > would be at least ONE update on the Ashes. > > Dead silence..... 8-)) > > See ya, Arnie > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Dec 29 12:00:12 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 22:00:12 +0200 Subject: [SEL] The Aussie visit -- Updated Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101229215759.021363a0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi all, We had a great day again yesterday with Reg & Marg. It's the same webpage - just added text and more pics. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From christison at coastalnet.com Wed Dec 29 13:00:03 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 16:00:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] The Aussie visit -- Updated In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20101229215759.021363a0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20101229215759.021363a0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <4D1BA153.7050901@coastalnet.com> Great pics as usual, Jerry! These really brought a smile:-) Ken On 12/29/2010 3:00 PM, Jerry Evans wrote: > Hi all, > We had a great day again yesterday with Reg& Marg. > > It's the same webpage - just added text and more pics. > > > > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Dec 29 13:17:32 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (plowe at exemail.com.au) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 16:17:32 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Curt Andree Message-ID: <380-2201012329211732540@M2W107.mail2web.com> Hi Curt I am away at my Dad's place until Saturday, do not have your direct email, hence a message to the LIST, sorry guys. Will catch up in regards to your query then. Pete, Oz -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE ? Free email based on Microsoft? Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE From dombros2 at clearmail.com.au Wed Dec 29 13:56:44 2010 From: dombros2 at clearmail.com.au (Domeney Brothers) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 08:56:44 +1100 Subject: [SEL] OT No Ashes update Message-ID: Dead silenc?. Naaah, just dead! Teddy (Aussie supporter...........was!) From lew at lewslittlefarm.com Wed Dec 29 14:14:39 2010 From: lew at lewslittlefarm.com (Lew Best) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 16:14:39 -0600 Subject: [SEL] OT No Ashes update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009301cba7a5$d18ea4e0$74abeea0$@com> Well, since I have no idea what the ashes are about being American................. Lew near Waco, TX -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Domeney Brothers Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 3:57 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] OT No Ashes update Dead silenc?. Naaah, just dead! Teddy (Aussie supporter...........was!) _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Fri Dec 31 02:14:50 2010 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 21:14:50 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Happy New Year... even you 'Merikans who don't get yours until tomorrow :) Message-ID: <000001cba8d3$8f6e2fc0$ae4a8f40$@steamengine.com.au> I know this is a few hours early but I'm off to the city with the kids to see the fireworks. Might take a while to get home when everyone pours out of the city! May your year start well and for those who are going to crank up this year - long and loud. Regards Paul From plowe at exemail.com.au Fri Dec 31 05:17:18 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 23:17:18 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Happy New Year Message-ID: <888EA7F5942049A7BF2137E653D11AD8@PeterPC> Happy New Year from here in Oz. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Australia From peterwoodmore at aol.com Fri Dec 31 05:57:20 2010 From: peterwoodmore at aol.com (Peter Woodmore) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 08:57:20 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Happy New Year Message-ID: <8CD7709C737645B-1580-12C46@webmail-m015.sysops.aol.com> Happy new year from a very hot Sydney night Regards Peter & Marie Woodmore peterwoodmore at aol.com Skype name = woadmere From gop4evr at lsol.net Fri Dec 31 06:47:48 2010 From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 08:47:48 -0600 Subject: [SEL] New Year engine run? Message-ID: <4A2E3538-47AC-491B-B6D2-A158E783F794@lsol.net> How many of our "down under" friends are cranking up today? It should be a simple matter down there -- they don't have to shovel the snow to get at the engine shed. It's been awhile since I dragged out the Hercules. I may have to do a brief roll out tomorrow. I have done a New Year's engine run here most years with one of my more gamey (really) friends. What is the coldest weather anyone has cranked up their old iron in? A couple of years ago it was 4 deg. below zero (F) here. Thats the one that sticks in my mind. The Herc didn't start on the first flip of the wheels either. And I didn't stay out long . . . . Nelson Johnsrud Manitowoc WI (3hp Hercules) From asouth42 at embarqmail.com Fri Dec 31 07:41:55 2010 From: asouth42 at embarqmail.com (Arthur&Deana Southwell) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:41:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Greetings Message-ID: Happy New Year to all the Lists. Arthur Southwell Arcadia, FL 34266 USA From jlb94 at juno.com Fri Dec 31 07:44:37 2010 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 15:44:37 GMT Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: <20101231.104437.2481.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> I have sent an email to the list wishing everyone a Happy New Year. For some reason, it is being held because someone thinks it has "Explicit Destination" - - or something like that. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ "Merry Christmas, (_o_) Happy New Year" ____________________________________________________________ Mortgage Rates Hit 2.99% If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Gov't Refi Programs http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d1dfaad893f5999e3ast06vuc From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Dec 31 08:43:22 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:43:22 -0500 Subject: [SEL] New Year engine run? In-Reply-To: <4A2E3538-47AC-491B-B6D2-A158E783F794@lsol.net> References: <4A2E3538-47AC-491B-B6D2-A158E783F794@lsol.net> Message-ID: <31e4c071a4289f84fc9e240526f4c458.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hey Nels, I vividly remember two New Year's crank-ups. One was COLD with knee-deep snow and I put a bucket of hot water in the Whitte hopper to help her start. The other one was 72 deg and SUNNY!! Cranked up in shorts & T-shirt, sat in a lawn chair with a beer to listen to 'em run. Never come close to those conditions again! I think the 3 hp Novo "S" and the 2-1/2 hp tulip top Bamford will "get the call" for this year's crank-up. See ya, Arnie On Fri, December 31, 2010 9:47 am, Nelson Johnsrud wrote: > > What is the coldest weather anyone has cranked up their old iron in? A couple of > years ago it was 4 deg. below zero (F) here. Thats the one that sticks in my mind. > The Herc didn't start on the first flip of the wheels either. And I didn't stay out > long . . . . From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Dec 31 08:47:06 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:47:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <20101231.104437.2481.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> References: <20101231.104437.2481.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Jeeze Joe, WHERE did you wish everyone would go to celebrate the New Year? 8-)) See ya, Arnie PS - Happy New Year to you too. Give Sylvia a cuddle for me? On Fri, December 31, 2010 10:44 am, jlb94 at juno.com wrote: > > I have sent an email to the list wishing everyone a Happy New Year. > For some reason, it is being held because someone thinks it has "Explicit > Destination" - - or something like that. > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Fri Dec 31 10:28:36 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:28:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] New Year engine run? In-Reply-To: <4A2E3538-47AC-491B-B6D2-A158E783F794@lsol.net> Message-ID: <198313.56670.qm@web111701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I did start my 1 3/4 Herc S and Cushman 1 1/2 HP model 21 type X one crisp New Year at -12 F. They fired right up too. Of couse there was a one hour prep to get that result. I started with 50 degree F tap water then went to 110 degree hot tap water for a while before I drained again and went with the nearly boiling water. Those engines seemed to think it was Summer time already. They fired up and ran sweetly. ? Alan in Michigan --- On Fri, 12/31/10, Nelson Johnsrud wrote: From: Nelson Johnsrud Subject: [SEL] New Year engine run? To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 9:47 AM How many of our "down under" friends are cranking up today?? It should be a simple matter down there -- they don't have to shovel the snow to get at the engine shed. It's been awhile since I dragged out the Hercules.? I may have to do a brief roll out tomorrow.? I have done a New Year's engine run here most years with one of my more gamey (really) friends. What is the coldest weather anyone has cranked up their old iron in?? A couple of years ago it was 4 deg. below zero (F) here.? Thats the one that sticks in my mind.? The Herc didn't start on the first flip of the wheels either.? And I didn't stay out long . . . . Nelson Johnsrud Manitowoc WI (3hp Hercules) _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Dec 31 13:46:47 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 23:46:47 +0200 Subject: [SEL] New Years greetings Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101231234340.027d4ff8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi to all the members, It's 15 minutes to 2011 here so we wish you all a Happy and successful New year. May 2011 be a great year for you all. Best regards from, Jerry & Jacqui Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Dec 31 13:52:27 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 23:52:27 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 81, Issue 28 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101231234959.027c9f98@mail.vaal3hoek.co.za> At 07:00 PM 31/12/2010, you wrote: >Message: 6 >Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 15:44:37 GMT >From: "jlb94 at juno.com" >Subject: [SEL] (no subject) >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Message-ID: <20101231.104437.2481.1 at webmail03.vgs.untd.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > >I have sent an email to the list wishing everyone a Happy New Year. >For some reason, it is being held because someone thinks it has "Explicit >Destination" - - or something like that. > >Joe "Pip" Betz said that. >jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz >,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz >\/)"(\/ "Merry Christmas, >(_o_) Happy New Year" >____________________________________________________________ >Mortgage Rates Hit 2.99% >If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Gov't Refi Programs >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d1dfaad893f5999e3ast06vuc Hi Joe, Thanks and same to you. Your message is probably because of the free advertising that your e-mail provider (Juno) tacks on to the end of you mail (left intact above for you to see). Keep well, Jerry From patrick.livingstone at gmail.com Fri Dec 31 14:02:34 2010 From: patrick.livingstone at gmail.com (Patrick Livingstone) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 09:02:34 +1100 Subject: [SEL] New Year engine run? In-Reply-To: <4A2E3538-47AC-491B-B6D2-A158E783F794@lsol.net> Message-ID: A little after midnight I fired up my old Fairbanks-Morse No.1 Eclipse to celebrate the New Year. It didn't even wake up the baby :) Happy New Year from Sydney Patrick On 1/1/11 1:47 AM, "Nelson Johnsrud" wrote: > How many of our "down under" friends are cranking up today? It should be a > simple matter down there -- they don't have to shovel the snow to get at the > engine shed. > > It's been awhile since I dragged out the Hercules. I may have to do a brief > roll out tomorrow. I have done a New Year's engine run here most years with > one of my more gamey (really) friends. > > What is the coldest weather anyone has cranked up their old iron in? A couple > of years ago it was 4 deg. below zero (F) here. Thats the one that sticks in > my mind. The Herc didn't start on the first flip of the wheels either. And I > didn't stay out long . . . . > > Nelson Johnsrud > Manitowoc WI > (3hp Hercules) > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From camaned at iinet.net.au Fri Dec 31 15:03:51 2010 From: camaned at iinet.net.au (Cam Grundy) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 10:03:51 +1100 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: Edwina and I would like to wish all a Happy and healthy New Year. Cam and Edwina Grundy Kariong NSW 2250 AUS