From edstoller at earthlink.net Thu Apr 1 18:44:18 2010 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed Stoller) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 21:44:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Beckman & Simpson Manuals References: Message-ID: Hi Elden, I don't need those manuals , but do need manual for a Conar Volt meter Model 212. Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT, USA http:/home.earthlink.net/~estoller/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "Stationary Engine List" Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:32 PM Subject: [SEL] Beckman & Simpson Manuals > Gang: > > I've been cleaning out some old files and found manuals for the following > meters that I no longer own. > > Simpson Model 260 Series 5 and 5M Operator's Manual. > Beckman Tech 300 and Tech 310 Digital Multimeters. > > If anyone wants these, they're free!! :-) > > Otherwise, I'll deep six 'em. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 1 06:51:45 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:51:45 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - RE: Beckman & Simpson Manuals In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ed: Sorry, I don't have that manual although someone here may have it. Since I retired I've gotten rid of some of my test gear but have kept the Tek 468 'scope, the Weston 1240 (Nixie tube display), function generator, Fluke counter, etc. as I still use 'em occasionally. I think I paid about $7,000 for the Tektronix 'scope when it was new. Last time I checked on Ebay, they were bringing a couple hundred bucks. At that price, I can use it 'til it croaks then junk it. :-) Stuff I shouldn't have gotten rid of includes my H-P harmonic distortion analyzer (bought new, sold for $150), my Hickock tube tester and several other small items that I find that I could occasionally use. Oh, well ........ Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Ed Stoller > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 08:44 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Beckman & Simpson Manuals > > > Hi Elden, > > I don't need those manuals , but do need manual > for a Conar Volt meter Model > 212. > > Ed Stoller > New Fairfield, CT, USA > http:/home.earthlink.net/~estoller/ From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Thu Apr 1 09:33:45 2010 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 10:33:45 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel Message-ID: Need some help gang. How does one cut/form flat plate spring steel? We need one for the dog on the ratchet that advances the bolt of wood on our shingle mill. Pix at; http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2794526910039077051PBYOMo "Thanks for looking" RickinMt. PS: Thinking about using the flat stock off an ole putty knife ???? From christison at coastalnet.com Thu Apr 1 09:53:32 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 12:53:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BB4CF8C.5020905@coastalnet.com> Hi Richard, The mill is lookin' good! Have you thought of perhaps using a short length cut from an 8 day clock mainspring? I have used these with success for similar projects in the past. Take care. Ken Richard Strobel wrote: > Need some help gang. How does one cut/form flat plate spring steel? We > need one for the dog on the ratchet that advances the bolt of wood on our > shingle mill. > > Pix at; > > http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2794526910039077051PBYOMo > > "Thanks for looking" > > RickinMt. > > PS: Thinking about using the flat stock off an ole putty knife ???? > > _______________________________________________ > > > > From maytagtwin at aol.com Thu Apr 1 10:09:51 2010 From: maytagtwin at aol.com (maytagtwin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 13:09:51 -0400 Subject: [SEL] : Spring Steel Message-ID: <8CC9FD546E8A394-58C8-1E9B2@Webmail-d109.sysops.aol.com> Re: [SEL] Spring Steel From:maytagtwin at aol.commaytagtwin@aol.com To:Richard_Strobel7 at msn.comDate:Thu, Apr 1, 2010 12:04 pmHi Rick, If you have a Dremel hand held rotary tool you can use a small stone and easily cut spring steel.? If you have a damp sponge or rag, you can prevent loss of temper, too.? ? Your putty knife should work.? Other sources I have used are recoil springs from lawn mower engines and the flat steel from sewer snakes.? ? Regards, Ron -----Original Message----- From: Richard Strobel <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com> To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Sent: Thu, Apr 1, 2010 11:33 am Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel Need some help gang. How does one cut/form flat plate spring steel? We need one for the dog on the ratchet that advances the bolt of wood on our shingle mill. Pix at; http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2794526910039077051PBYOMo "Thanks for looking" RickinMt. PS: Thinking about using the flat stock off an ole putty knife ???? _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Apr 1 10:22:59 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:22:59 EDT Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel Message-ID: <2e69f.5ee3ba0.38e63073@aol.com> The old putty knife probably would work ok. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From frappi at wcoil.com Thu Apr 1 10:28:24 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 13:28:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100401172820.5090B92BE@smtp.wcoil.com> HI Rick, I don't know he exact particulars but you will have to heat it and take the spring out of it (Anneal) do your changes and then retreat it into spring. A putty knife I think is what's called hardened and tempered. You will probably have to anneal it and do the shaping and changing of the steel then re-temper and harden. You should be able to find some specifics if you do a Google search on how to go about it. Its a fairly complex or exacting science. Someone experienced at it makes it look easy. Know a black smith in your area? Get the time and temp wrong and you loose. You may have to try it on two or three pieces till you get it right. You will need some type of way to evenly heat the metal to probably about 1500 degrees and let it cool to anneal the metal. This softens it. Do your shaping and then heat again to about the same temp then quench in some type of oil or brine. That gives you a very basic idea of what's needed. Not hot enough and no spring, too hot and the metal gets too brittle I think. TTYL, Mark At 12:33 PM 4/1/2010, you wrote: >Need some help gang. How does one cut/form flat plate spring steel? We >need one for the dog on the ratchet that advances the bolt of wood on our >shingle mill. > >Pix at; > >http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2794526910039077051PBYOMo > >"Thanks for looking" > >RickinMt. > >PS: Thinking about using the flat stock off an ole putty knife ???? > >____ Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From don.h at wcoil.com Thu Apr 1 11:44:30 2010 From: don.h at wcoil.com (Gus) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 14:44:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Re=3A__Spring_Steel?= In-Reply-To: <20100401172820.5090B92BE@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20100401172820.5090B92BE@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <46F1D4F981FC48CB91D8E7F17B098EA7@gusPC> go get some strapping stock they use to bind crates together I got some 1 1/2 wide you can just rivet several pieces together to make it stronger I bet a tractor dealer would have all kinds of this stuff off there crates ect.( you cant use any that green parts came in only red parts ( Like Farmal) Gus From falcon at telenet.net Thu Apr 1 11:48:19 2010 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:48:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BB4EA73.9090202@telenet.net> Richard Strobel wrote: > Need some help gang. How does one cut/form flat plate spring steel? We > need one for the dog on the ratchet that advances the bolt of wood on our > shingle mill. > > Pix at; > > http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2794526910039077051PBYOMo > > "Thanks for looking" > > RickinMt. > > PS: Thinking about using the flat stock off an ole putty knife ???? > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > What is the final shape you need? If the putty knife is one of the super flexible types it should work OK. Usually you anneal the steel, perform whatever you need to do then heat treat it back. BUT to cut it you can use a carbide blade in a saw or a dremel cut off. To drill it the easy way is to spot anneal using a simple method. Reverse a drill bit, spin it at high speed then use it to heat the spots you need to drill. Then drill the hole when it cools. Or you can punch the holes. -- Steve W. From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Apr 1 19:34:10 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 13:34:10 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show Message-ID: <3FE75DEC29C446179967C1BF5FE0D9F2@peterlowe> Hi Guys What day does the Mt Pleasant Show wind down. It runs from Thursday 2nd Sept, to Monday 6th Sept. I will be flying home right after Mt Pleasant We have an R&V Factory Tour happening again, it will be from Mt Pleasant to East Moline on the 1st Sept, bookings are a must to get bus numbers. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines From d.fleming at sasktel.net Thu Apr 1 20:22:01 2010 From: d.fleming at sasktel.net (Don Fleming) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 21:22:01 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show References: <3FE75DEC29C446179967C1BF5FE0D9F2@peterlowe> Message-ID: <000701cad213$aba6d710$4200a8c0@2S4KN5K0H3> Hi Peter: Is Kaye going to be there also?? Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:34 PM Subject: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show > Hi Guys > > What day does the Mt Pleasant Show wind down. It runs from Thursday 2nd > Sept, to Monday 6th Sept. > I will be flying home right after Mt Pleasant > > We have an R&V Factory Tour happening again, it will be from Mt Pleasant > to East Moline on the 1st Sept, bookings are a must to get bus numbers. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > Skype name: ozengines > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Apr 1 22:14:28 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 16:14:28 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show References: <3FE75DEC29C446179967C1BF5FE0D9F2@peterlowe> <000701cad213$aba6d710$4200a8c0@2S4KN5K0H3> Message-ID: Hi Kay No, just little old me ;-))) She had a vacation in Thailand a few weeks ago, now it is my turn. Pete > Hi Peter: > > Is Kaye going to be there also?? > > Kay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Lowe" > To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" > > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:34 PM > Subject: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show > > >> Hi Guys >> >> What day does the Mt Pleasant Show wind down. It runs from Thursday 2nd >> Sept, to Monday 6th Sept. >> I will be flying home right after Mt Pleasant >> >> We have an R&V Factory Tour happening again, it will be from Mt Pleasant >> to East Moline on the 1st Sept, bookings are a must to get bus numbers. >> >> Regards >> Peter Lowe >> R&V Engine Registrar >> Australia >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >> Skype name: ozengines >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Thu Apr 1 23:44:08 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 17:44:08 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show References: <3FE75DEC29C446179967C1BF5FE0D9F2@peterlowe><000701cad213$aba6d710$4200a8c0@2S4KN5K0H3> Message-ID: Dave, dont you DARE line up Bambi and the other girls!! Kaye will never forgive you! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show > Hi Kay > No, just little old me ;-))) > She had a vacation in Thailand a few weeks ago, now it is my turn. > > Pete > > > > >> Hi Peter: >> >> Is Kaye going to be there also?? >> >> Kay >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter Lowe" >> To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" >> >> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:34 PM >> Subject: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show >> >> >>> Hi Guys >>> >>> What day does the Mt Pleasant Show wind down. It runs from Thursday 2nd >>> Sept, to Monday 6th Sept. >>> I will be flying home right after Mt Pleasant >>> >>> We have an R&V Factory Tour happening again, it will be from Mt Pleasant >>> to East Moline on the 1st Sept, bookings are a must to get bus numbers. >>> >>> Regards >>> Peter Lowe >>> R&V Engine Registrar >>> Australia >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>> Skype name: ozengines >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Fri Apr 2 06:58:57 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:58:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show In-Reply-To: References: <3FE75DEC29C446179967C1BF5FE0D9F2@peterlowe> <000701cad213$aba6d710$4200a8c0@2S4KN5K0H3> Message-ID: <13E929C4-D165-4B0F-8F80-B74955101EF4@me.com> You know the rule Reg--What Happens At Mt. Pleasant Stays At Mt. Pleasant! Dave On Apr 2, 2010, at 2:44 AM, Reg Ingold wrote: > Dave, dont you DARE line up Bambi and the other girls!! > Kaye will never forgive you! > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle.NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Lowe" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 4:14 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show > > >> Hi Kay >> No, just little old me ;-))) >> She had a vacation in Thailand a few weeks ago, now it is my turn. >> >> Pete >> >> >> >> >>> Hi Peter: >>> >>> Is Kaye going to be there also?? >>> >>> Kay >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peter Lowe" >>> To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:34 PM >>> Subject: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show >>> >>> >>>> Hi Guys >>>> >>>> What day does the Mt Pleasant Show wind down. It runs from >>>> Thursday 2nd >>>> Sept, to Monday 6th Sept. >>>> I will be flying home right after Mt Pleasant >>>> >>>> We have an R&V Factory Tour happening again, it will be from Mt >>>> Pleasant >>>> to East Moline on the 1st Sept, bookings are a must to get bus >>>> numbers. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Peter Lowe >>>> R&V Engine Registrar >>>> Australia >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>>> Skype name: ozengines >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ddotto at cableone.net Fri Apr 2 08:26:54 2010 From: ddotto at cableone.net (Dave Otto) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 09:26:54 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5DFC8792735E45BD98AD79C21D0A1A06@shop> HI Rick Here is one option; http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26219/Product/NO__149_FLAT_SPRING_STOCK This material so dead soft; cut form, and drill to your liking. Then have someone with a furnace heat treat it and temper it to the proper springiness for you. Dave Dave Otto Boise, Idaho -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard Strobel Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 10:34 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel Need some help gang. How does one cut/form flat plate spring steel? We need one for the dog on the ratchet that advances the bolt of wood on our shingle mill. Pix at; http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2794526910039077051PBYOMo "Thanks for looking" RickinMt. PS: Thinking about using the flat stock off an ole putty knife ???? _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4910 (20100302) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4910 (20100302) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4910 (20100302) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 08:52:18 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 11:52:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OK folks, watch the video in the link below. If Guam gets too many people on it that it can cause it to "tip over", then if there is too much iron in one location it could do the same thing. I went on line and found a study of "weights" of locations in the US. To my amazement, the "lightest" area of the world is centered around central KY. Do your part to save the earth, start sending your old heavy iron this way. I will sacrifice the couple hundred acres I own to place these items on. For mags, ignitors, etc, you can ship by mail. For entire engines, send your address and we'll have them picked up or shipped (you pay the freight of course). I've heard some of the heaviest items are those with slide valves and sideshafts. They should immediately be shipped (I'll pay freight on them to help you out)! Do your part to save the earth. This may be your only chance! http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93533?fp=1 Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From edurand at mchsi.com Fri Apr 2 10:31:16 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 12:31:16 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Tommy: You are a man among men - a gentleman and a scholar - a fine person ........ AND a scoundrel! Don't you know that the Panhandle of Florida is the center of the universe and, in order to keep the universe balanced, all the especially old and fine iron (copper and brass included) should be shipped here. :-) Of course everybody knows that the older the iron and the finer, the higher it's density and weight are. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Judge Tommy > Turner > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 10:52 AM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > > > OK folks, watch the video in the link below. If > Guam gets too many > people on it that it can cause it to "tip over", > then if there is too > much iron in one location it could do the same thing. > > I went on line and found a study of "weights" of > locations in the US. > To my amazement, the "lightest" area of the world > is centered around > central KY. Do your part to save the earth, > start sending your old > heavy iron this way. I will sacrifice the couple > hundred acres I own to > place these items on. > > For mags, ignitors, etc, you can ship by mail. > For entire engines, send > your address and we'll have them picked up or > shipped (you pay the > freight of course). > > I've heard some of the heaviest items are those > with slide valves and > sideshafts. They should immediately be shipped > (I'll pay freight on > them to help you out)! Do your part to save the > earth. This may be your > only chance! > > http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93533?fp=1 > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Apr 2 09:32:46 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 09:32:46 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <118CDB80-C7EC-4B35-915C-0BBF896C8814@rustyiron.com> On Apr 2, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > > I've heard some of the heaviest items are those with slide valves and > sideshafts. They should immediately be shipped (I'll pay freight on > them to help you out)! Do your part to save the earth. This may be > your > only chance! Your intentions may be noble Tommy, but we shouldn't risk capsizing the Guam of the Appalachians. Rob P.S. Besides, your efforts aren't to save the Earth, just Kentucky. As I sit here, I wonder, "why?" From mr at carolina.rr.com Fri Apr 2 09:34:27 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 12:34:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY References: Message-ID: <004e01cad282$5c9e2550$0201a8c0@mikecomp> You are a little too far N/W in your calculations and must take into consideration Mammoth Cave. Being that huge underground cavern is empty, that makes your area actually too light and you could "sink Kentucky" with too much iron. Oddly enough, Shelby NC has the perfect balance of lightness and the geographic substructure to support "New Iron." Quick, divert those trailers before KY disappears like a gigantic sinkhole. MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:52 AM Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > OK folks, watch the video in the link below. If Guam gets too many > people on it that it can cause it to "tip over", then if there is too > much iron in one location it could do the same thing. > > I went on line and found a study of "weights" of locations in the US. > To my amazement, the "lightest" area of the world is centered around > central KY. Do your part to save the earth, start sending your old > heavy iron this way. I will sacrifice the couple hundred acres I own to > place these items on. > > For mags, ignitors, etc, you can ship by mail. For entire engines, send > your address and we'll have them picked up or shipped (you pay the > freight of course). > > I've heard some of the heaviest items are those with slide valves and > sideshafts. They should immediately be shipped (I'll pay freight on > them to help you out)! Do your part to save the earth. This may be your > only chance! > > http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93533?fp=1 > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Apr 2 10:03:17 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 13:03:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100402170310.EA98692A3@smtp.wcoil.com> Now Now, everyone knows NW Ohio has the Lime stone foundation to support it all. And pretty level in most places too so there will a reduced need for cribbing so we will not have to cut down so many trees for support of the base. Also we have newly discovered gas and oil for fuel and lubrication so the transportation cost and carbon foot print of transporting the fuel to the end user is reduced as well. No Volcanoes like out west. We are geologically stable, and well above sea level for when global climate change totally melts the ice. After all of the slides and sides get here we will take the pushers and two cycles too. Maytags first in the 2 cycles. Mark PS: Gods it gave me hives using lib arguing points. But we must sacrifice for the Iron. My cross to bear. At 01:31 PM 4/2/2010, you wrote: >Tommy: > >You are a man among men - a gentleman and a scholar - a fine person ........ > >AND a scoundrel! > >Don't you know that the Panhandle of Florida is the center of the >universe and, in order to keep the universe balanced, all the >especially old and fine iron (copper and brass included) should be >shipped here. :-) > >Of course everybody knows that the older the iron and the finer, the >higher it's density and weight are. > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of Judge Tommy > > Turner > > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 10:52 AM > > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > > Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > > > > > > OK folks, watch the video in the link below. If > > Guam gets too many > > people on it that it can cause it to "tip over", > > then if there is too > > much iron in one location it could do the same thing. > > > > I went on line and found a study of "weights" of > > locations in the US. > > To my amazement, the "lightest" area of the world > > is centered around > > central KY. Do your part to save the earth, > > start sending your old > > heavy iron this way. I will sacrifice the couple > > hundred acres I own to > > place these items on. > > > > For mags, ignitors, etc, you can ship by mail. > > For entire engines, send > > your address and we'll have them picked up or > > shipped (you pay the > > freight of course). > > > > I've heard some of the heaviest items are those > > with slide valves and > > sideshafts. They should immediately be shipped > > (I'll pay freight on > > them to help you out)! Do your part to save the > > earth. This may be your > > only chance! > > > > http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93533?fp=1 > > > > Tommy Turner > > Magnolia, KY > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2785 - Release Date: >04/02/10 06:32:00 Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Apr 2 10:04:19 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 13:04:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio Message-ID: <20100402170413.350FB92A3@smtp.wcoil.com> Now Now, everyone knows NW Ohio has the Lime stone foundation to support it all. And pretty level in most places too so there will a reduced need for cribbing so we will not have to cut down so many trees for support of the base. Also we have newly discovered gas and oil for fuel and lubrication so the transportation cost and carbon foot print of transporting the fuel to the end user is reduced as well. No Volcanoes like out west. We are geologically stable, and well above sea level for when global climate change totally melts the ice. After all of the slides and sides get here we will take the pushers and two cycles too. Maytags first in the 2 cycles. Mark PS: Gods it gave me hives using lib arguing points. But we must sacrifice for the Iron. My cross to bear. At 01:31 PM 4/2/2010, you wrote: >Tommy: > >You are a man among men - a gentleman and a scholar - a fine person ........ > >AND a scoundrel! > >Don't you know that the Panhandle of Florida is the center of the >universe and, in order to keep the universe balanced, all the >especially old and fine iron (copper and brass included) should be >shipped here. :-) > >Of course everybody knows that the older the iron and the finer, the >higher it's density and weight are. > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of Judge Tommy > > Turner > > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 10:52 AM > > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > > Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > > > > > > OK folks, watch the video in the link below. If > > Guam gets too many > > people on it that it can cause it to "tip over", > > then if there is too > > much iron in one location it could do the same thing. > > > > I went on line and found a study of "weights" of > > locations in the US. > > To my amazement, the "lightest" area of the world > > is centered around > > central KY. Do your part to save the earth, > > start sending your old > > heavy iron this way. I will sacrifice the couple > > hundred acres I own to > > place these items on. > > > > For mags, ignitors, etc, you can ship by mail. > > For entire engines, send > > your address and we'll have them picked up or > > shipped (you pay the > > freight of course). > > > > I've heard some of the heaviest items are those > > with slide valves and > > sideshafts. They should immediately be shipped > > (I'll pay freight on > > them to help you out)! Do your part to save the > > earth. This may be your > > only chance! > > > > http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93533?fp=1 > > > > Tommy Turner > > Magnolia, KY > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2785 - Release Date: >04/02/10 06:32:00 Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 11:07:37 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 14:07:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <004e01cad282$5c9e2550$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: Mike, I've confirmed 2 loads are on their way and will be here soon. I had the Univ. of KY do some calculations and its true, your area is one of the "lighter" areas of the US (significantly heavier though than KY). But your close proximity to the Atlantic would more than likely cause NC to simply tip into the ocean should much additional weight be placed in your state. I've had reservations about UK's number crunching though. They haven't figured out that 3 is larger than 2 (as in 3 point field goals vs. 2 point field goals). Maybe we should consult the Univ. of WV on this matter. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY You are a little too far N/W in your calculations and must take into consideration Mammoth Cave. Being that huge underground cavern is empty, that makes your area actually too light and you could "sink Kentucky" with too much iron. Oddly enough, Shelby NC has the perfect balance of lightness and the geographic substructure to support "New Iron." Quick, divert those trailers before KY disappears like a gigantic sinkhole. MR From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 11:09:45 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 14:09:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3CF6F8A0010F4A2C9AB05606DFC1ECBB@laruecounty.courthouse> Elden, With Florida's low sea level elevations, it would be under water when only a few loads were hauled in. I'm on high ground. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Don't you know that the Panhandle of Florida is the center of the universe and, in order to keep the universe balanced, all the especially old and fine iron (copper and brass included) should be shipped here. :-) Of course everybody knows that the older the iron and the finer, the higher it's density and weight are. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand //www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 11:12:48 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 14:12:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <118CDB80-C7EC-4B35-915C-0BBF896C8814@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <6761194AA004445287B947224E9AE0B0@laruecounty.courthouse> Should I possibly run for Congress Rob? It sounds like I could fit in as I apparently have the attitude that most there have: "I'll take care of myself and to heck with the rest" Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY P.S. Besides, your efforts aren't to save the Earth, just Kentucky. As I sit here, I wonder, "why?" _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 11:21:50 2010 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 14:21:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <20100402170310.EA98692A3@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Mark, You've somewhat convinced me. Everyone, ship the Maytags to OH, the rest to KY. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Maytags first in the 2 cycles. Mark From oldironnut at windstream.net Fri Apr 2 11:41:33 2010 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 14:41:33 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41FF0D2E-9C16-4002-A7E8-EFDE6F581417@windstream.net> On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > I've heard some of the heaviest items are those with slide valves and > sideshafts. They should immediately be shipped (I'll pay freight on > them to help you out)! Do your part to save the earth. This may be your > only chance! Tommy, To maintain a proper East/West balance, some of the iron shipments should come to our place here in Versailles. We only have 10 acres so to counterbalance your couple of hundred acres, those heavy slide valves and sideshafts should come to our place and the lighter Hercules and such can be stored at your place. Just trying to do my part to save the world, Mike ______________________ Michael Tucker oldironnut at windstream.net Versailles, Kentucky, USA ______________________ From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Apr 2 11:43:07 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 14:43:07 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio In-Reply-To: References: <20100402170310.EA98692A3@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <20100402184310.870A092E5@smtp.wcoil.com> Works for me!! At 02:21 PM 4/2/2010, you wrote: >Mark, > You've somewhat convinced me. Everyone, ship the Maytags to OH, >the rest to KY. >Tommy Turner >Magnolia, KY > >>Now Now, everyone knows NW Ohio has the Lime stone foundation to >>support it all. And pretty level in most places too so there will a >>reduced need for cribbing so we will not have to cut down so many >>trees for support of the base. Also we have newly discovered gas >>and oil for fuel and lubrication so the transportation cost and >>carbon foot print of transporting the fuel to the end user is >>reduced as well. No Volcanoes like out west. We are geologically >>stable, and well above sea level for when global climate change >>totally melts the ice. After all of the slides and sides get here >>we will take the pushers and two cycles too. Maytags first in the >>2 cycles. Mark >> >>PS: Gods it gave me hives using lib arguing points. But we must >>sacrifice for the Iron. My cross to bear. Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 12:22:36 2010 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 15:22:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <41FF0D2E-9C16-4002-A7E8-EFDE6F581417@windstream.net> Message-ID: You're a generous guy Mike. We'll do this, once my property is full, we'll let you have the overflow. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Michael Tucker Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 2:42 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > I've heard some of the heaviest items are those with slide valves and > sideshafts. They should immediately be shipped (I'll pay freight on > them to help you out)! Do your part to save the earth. This may be your > only chance! Tommy, To maintain a proper East/West balance, some of the iron shipments should come to our place here in Versailles. We only have 10 acres so to counterbalance your couple of hundred acres, those heavy slide valves and sideshafts should come to our place and the lighter Hercules and such can be stored at your place. Just trying to do my part to save the world, Mike ______________________ Michael Tucker oldironnut at windstream.net Versailles, Kentucky, USA ______________________ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2743 - Release Date: 04/02/10 06:32:00 From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 12:23:21 2010 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 15:23:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio In-Reply-To: <20100402184310.870A092E5@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: It's a deal Mark! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Works for me!! At 02:21 PM 4/2/2010, you wrote: >Mark, > You've somewhat convinced me. Everyone, ship the Maytags to OH, >the rest to KY. From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Fri Apr 2 12:47:07 2010 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 06:47:07 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <490B26CABCF843CD890ED75DC0D255AF@KerryPC> Typical Judge. understand the law and not real life 8-)) Tommy if you want the world to stay upright the way it is now, more weight has to go to the bottom to keep centre of gravity correct, when things travel south of the equator things get gravitated so that they cannot fall off the earth. So I think as a leading citizen up your way send some of the STUFF you have down this way to keep things just right Kerry Lithgow NSW Oz > OK folks, watch the video in the link below. If Guam gets too many > people on it that it can cause it to "tip over", then if there is too > much iron in one location it could do the same thing. > > I went on line and found a study of "weights" of locations in the US. > To my amazement, the "lightest" area of the world is centered around > central KY. Do your part to save the earth, start sending your old > heavy iron this way. I will sacrifice the couple hundred acres I own to > place these items on. > > For mags, ignitors, etc, you can ship by mail. For entire engines, send > your address and we'll have them picked up or shipped (you pay the > freight of course). > > I've heard some of the heaviest items are those with slide valves and > sideshafts. They should immediately be shipped (I'll pay freight on > them to help you out)! Do your part to save the earth. This may be your > only chance! From Germoamer at aol.com Fri Apr 2 13:01:47 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 16:01:47 EDT Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY Message-ID: <26e72.24287a44.38e7a72b@aol.com> China's Three Gorges Dam has caused the earth to tilt 1 inch on it's axis. This has led to global warming, earthquakes, more sever storms, and lots of other earthly stuff we do not know about yet. This needs to be corrected as soon as possible. In studying the direct opposite of this damn, one comes up with a tract of farm land near the middle of Virginia where I happen to live. Please send this heavy equipment to my address so that it may be strategically placed around the farm to start correcting this environmental catastrophe as soon as possible. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Apr 2 13:03:52 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 16:03:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio In-Reply-To: References: <20100402184310.870A092E5@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <20100402200345.322E492ED@smtp.wcoil.com> All right now were talking, You write and approve the bill I'll sign it into law and then get Rotigel and Arnie to enforce it. Mark At 03:23 PM 4/2/2010, you wrote: >It's a deal Mark! > >Tommy Turner >Magnolia, KY > > > >Works for me!! > > >At 02:21 PM 4/2/2010, you wrote: > >Mark, > > You've somewhat convinced me. Everyone, ship the Maytags to >OH, > >the rest to KY. > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2785 - Release Date: >04/02/10 06:32:00 Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From rotigel at me.com Fri Apr 2 14:12:17 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 17:12:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's one of the more intelligent statements from someone in your party that I've heard for a LONG time Tommy! Dave On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Do your part to save the earth. This may be your > only chance! > > http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93533?fp=1 > > Tommy Turner From edurand at mchsi.com Fri Apr 2 15:50:24 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 17:50:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <3CF6F8A0010F4A2C9AB05606DFC1ECBB@laruecounty.courthouse> Message-ID: Tommy: As soon as the state begins to sink, we'll bet the Guvmint to "hep us". That will bring billions and billions of dollars so we can pump-in concrete to shore it up. AND, the extra weight of the iron and concrete will firmly anchor us to the rest of the U.S. so we don't float away. With that iron in your part of KY, it might sink into a previously undiscovered cave! You wouldn't want that to happen, wouldya?? Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Judge Tommy > Turner > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 01:10 PM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > > > Elden, > With Florida's low sea level elevations, it > would be under water > when only a few loads were hauled in. I'm on high ground. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > Don't you know that the Panhandle of Florida is > the center of the > universe and, in order to keep the universe > balanced, all the especially > old and fine iron (copper and brass included) > should be shipped here. > :-) > > Of course everybody knows that the older the iron > and the finer, the > higher it's density and weight are. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand From tchristoff at earthlink.net Fri Apr 2 15:31:29 2010 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 18:31:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY Message-ID: <17718081.1270247489422.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I really can't beleive how wrong you all are. If you place all that heavy stuff in the areas stated your going to cause some major tilting of the US. All that stuff needs to be placed here in the middle of the country to keep things in balance. We have plenty of room, lots of open ground, no underground caves to cause sinking, oceans to flood the land or any of those nasty mountains which make storage difficult since everything would be at an angle. If all this stuff was placed in the eastern parts Calf. would gain more ground as it would rise up due to the heavy load in the east. Now do we really need more land on the west coast, the place is in deep debt as it is now, they couldn't handle any more expense. No, I think the simple solution is to bring it all to Kansas where there is land of plenty and friendly people to take care of it. Tim -----Original Message----- >From: Elden DuRand >Sent: Apr 2, 2010 6:50 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > >Tommy: > >As soon as the state begins to sink, we'll bet the Guvmint to "hep us". That will bring billions and billions of dollars so we can pump-in concrete to shore it up. AND, the extra weight of the iron and concrete will firmly anchor us to the rest of the U.S. so we don't float away. > >With that iron in your part of KY, it might sink into a previously undiscovered cave! You wouldn't want that to happen, wouldya?? > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of Judge Tommy >> Turner >> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 01:10 PM >> To: 'The SEL email discussion list' >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY >> >> >> Elden, >> With Florida's low sea level elevations, it >> would be under water >> when only a few loads were hauled in. I'm on high ground. >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY >> >> >> >> >> Don't you know that the Panhandle of Florida is >> the center of the >> universe and, in order to keep the universe >> balanced, all the especially >> old and fine iron (copper and brass included) >> should be shipped here. >> :-) >> >> Of course everybody knows that the older the iron >> and the finer, the >> higher it's density and weight are. >> >> Take care - Elden >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Fri Apr 2 15:55:47 2010 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 18:55:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio References: <20100402184310.870A092E5@smtp.wcoil.com> <20100402200345.322E492ED@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <007e01cad2b7$a2681a20$6401a8c0@PC179134136174> ALL stationary steam engines of 100 ton or more are to be shipped (via as many trucks as needed) to Youngstown, OH. I'll pay the freight. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Shulaw" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio > > All right now were talking, You write and approve the bill I'll sign > it into law and then get Rotigel and Arnie to enforce it. Mark > > > At 03:23 PM 4/2/2010, you wrote: >>It's a deal Mark! >> >>Tommy Turner >>Magnolia, KY >> >> >> >>Works for me!! >> >> >>At 02:21 PM 4/2/2010, you wrote: >> >Mark, >> > You've somewhat convinced me. Everyone, ship the Maytags to >>OH, >> >the rest to KY. >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2785 - Release Date: >>04/02/10 06:32:00 > > > Mark Shulaw > 454 County Road 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 16:05:37 2010 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 19:05:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes, and to think he switched parties just last year! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 5:12 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY That's one of the more intelligent statements from someone in your party that I've heard for a LONG time Tommy! Dave From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 16:56:34 2010 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 19:56:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio In-Reply-To: <007e01cad2b7$a2681a20$6401a8c0@PC179134136174> Message-ID: <271B3912AAD8420493E73364FC40182F@D2JYVHJ1> Rick, We're already trying to determine how to balance out the weight on that BIG hunk of iron there in Youngstown already. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick Rowlands Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:56 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio ALL stationary steam engines of 100 ton or more are to be shipped (via as many trucks as needed) to Youngstown, OH. I'll pay the freight. Rick From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 17:25:08 2010 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:25:08 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8A167A3D62144ADEBA3D1B54F4D643DB@D2JYVHJ1> Well Elden, a gov'met bail out would be in order. Except in this case it will be in the form of new sheds on my place to store all the iron that's headed this way. In fact, the "stimulus" has already started. Some of you have been to my place and you've seen the two buildings full of junk that I have here. We'll there's now a third one going up (and room for a 4th, 5th, 6th, etc). Here's a photo of building #3. Since this photo was made last week they've got the concrete poured. I'm getting ready! http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/NewBuilding#5455695661512072274 The building on the left in the photo is 62' x 126'. The second one is 48' x 60' and the new one is 42' x 60'. http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/NewBuilding#5455695663217424802 I told the wife around Christmas time that I either had to get rid of some junk or build another building. She said "that sounds like an easy one to answer". It was, I called the builder the following day and signed the contract on the new one. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Elden DuRand Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:50 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY Tommy: As soon as the state begins to sink, we'll bet the Guvmint to "hep us". That will bring billions and billions of dollars so we can pump-in concrete to shore it up. AND, the extra weight of the iron and concrete will firmly anchor us to the rest of the U.S. so we don't float away. With that iron in your part of KY, it might sink into a previously undiscovered cave! You wouldn't want that to happen, wouldya?? Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Fri Apr 2 17:37:52 2010 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio References: <271B3912AAD8420493E73364FC40182F@D2JYVHJ1> Message-ID: <00a601cad2c5$e52507c0$6401a8c0@PC179134136174> You must not have heard about the second big chunk of iron that is coming to Youngstown. Its a 26" x 54" x 48" cross compound generating engine built by Westinghouse Machine Co. in 1905. 18' flywheel ,estimated weight 150 tons. http://news.webshots.com/photo/2509985150033749120bRkwaV So you now only have about 400 tons worth of engines to balance out! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio > Rick, > We're already trying to determine how to balance out the weight > on that BIG hunk of iron there in Youngstown already. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Rowlands > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:56 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio > > ALL stationary steam engines of 100 ton or more are to be shipped (via > as > many trucks as needed) to Youngstown, OH. I'll pay the freight. > > Rick > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jbcast at charter.net Fri Apr 2 17:57:23 2010 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 17:57:23 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working Message-ID: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> We had our spring kickoff last weekend, weather was good, good food and great people. There's a link to pictures below and some you tube videos. http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/4/136989.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iirpza4iqc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywhfbbWco0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpl-Vkjo3c J.B. Castagnos From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 17:58:24 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:58:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio In-Reply-To: <00a601cad2c5$e52507c0$6401a8c0@PC179134136174> Message-ID: Looks like we're also going to have to get some iron from overseas to my place in order to balance out northern Ohio! Tommy Turner -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick Rowlands Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:38 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio You must not have heard about the second big chunk of iron that is coming to Youngstown. Its a 26" x 54" x 48" cross compound generating engine built by Westinghouse Machine Co. in 1905. 18' flywheel ,estimated weight 150 tons. http://news.webshots.com/photo/2509985150033749120bRkwaV So you now only have about 400 tons worth of engines to balance out! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio > Rick, > We're already trying to determine how to balance out the weight > on that BIG hunk of iron there in Youngstown already. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Rowlands > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:56 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio > > ALL stationary steam engines of 100 ton or more are to be shipped (via > as > many trucks as needed) to Youngstown, OH. I'll pay the freight. > > Rick > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Fri Apr 2 19:15:56 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 21:15:56 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <8A167A3D62144ADEBA3D1B54F4D643DB@D2JYVHJ1> Message-ID: Tommy: Lucky guy! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Judge Tommy > Turner > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 07:25 PM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > > > Well Elden, a gov'met bail out would be in order. > Except in this case > it will be in the form of new sheds on my place > to store all the iron > that's headed this way. In fact, the "stimulus" > has already started. From steve_royster at hotmail.com Fri Apr 2 18:17:14 2010 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 21:17:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <8A167A3D62144ADEBA3D1B54F4D643DB@D2JYVHJ1> References: , <8A167A3D62144ADEBA3D1B54F4D643DB@D2JYVHJ1> Message-ID: Hey Tommy, When you get building three built and filled up give me and Mike a call and we'll come for a visit. I've got some cool refreshing pepsi for you and we can sit in the shade of those Oak trees and talk about cleaning out your sheds...... I mean cleaning up those ole rusty engines of yours. Yer pal in North Carolina, Steve > From: lcjudge at scrtc.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:25:08 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > > Well Elden, a gov'met bail out would be in order. Except in this case > it will be in the form of new sheds on my place to store all the iron > that's headed this way. In fact, the "stimulus" has already started. > > Some of you have been to my place and you've seen the two buildings full > of junk that I have here. We'll there's now a third one going up (and > room for a 4th, 5th, 6th, etc). > > Here's a photo of building #3. Since this photo was made last week > they've got the concrete poured. I'm getting ready! > > http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/NewBuilding#5455695661512072274 > > The building on the left in the photo is 62' x 126'. The second one is > 48' x 60' and the new one is 42' x 60'. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/NewBuilding#5455695663217424802 > > I told the wife around Christmas time that I either had to get rid of > some junk or build another building. She said "that sounds like an easy > one to answer". It was, I called the builder the following day and > signed the contract on the new one. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Elden > DuRand > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:50 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > > Tommy: > > As soon as the state begins to sink, we'll bet the Guvmint to "hep us". > That will bring billions and billions of dollars so we can pump-in > concrete to shore it up. AND, the extra weight of the iron and concrete > will firmly anchor us to the rest of the U.S. so we don't float away. > > With that iron in your part of KY, it might sink into a previously > undiscovered cave! You wouldn't want that to happen, wouldya?? > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From flywheel at netconnect.com.au Fri Apr 2 18:21:05 2010 From: flywheel at netconnect.com.au (Mark Kennedy) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 12:21:05 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Downunder In-Reply-To: <271B3912AAD8420493E73364FC40182F@D2JYVHJ1> References: <271B3912AAD8420493E73364FC40182F@D2JYVHJ1> Message-ID: <04F1B516-6E3C-4CE7-891F-F1413AE17B01@netconnect.com.au> With all this iron going to KY I think there needs to be some consideration to sending some 'Downunder' so as to re balance the world again, especially as we are selling all of our mineral ore as fast and as cheaply as we can to China. So in the interests of saving the planet, I humbly volunteer to receive any donations of 'old iron' and keep it safe for generations to come... :) Regards, Mark > Mark Kennedy Ballarat, Victoria, Australia Registrar for the WING Gauge & Instrument Co. http://www.oldengine.org/members/kennedy 'Training Down Under with the majesty of the South Australian Railways' All aboard the Pichi Richi Railway! http://www.prr.org.au/ *********************************************************** Important - This email and any attachments are confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any effected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender. From edurand at mchsi.com Fri Apr 2 19:21:28 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 21:21:28 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> Message-ID: JB: All of 'em looked like souped-up Maytags except for the V8-60! All that putt-putt'ing and one VAROOOOOOOM! :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > jbcast at charter.net > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 07:57 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working From rotigel at me.com Fri Apr 2 19:12:06 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 22:12:06 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> References: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> Message-ID: <00C3C4A4-C62E-47DC-942E-0D4E9320C0FC@me.com> Happy birthday JB! That smile on your daughter's face (in the first picture) says it all! Dave PS, Neat boats as well! On Apr 2, 2010, at 8:57 PM, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > We had our spring kickoff last weekend, weather was good, good food > and great people. There's a link to pictures below and some you tube > videos. > > > > > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/4/136989.html > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iirpza4iqc > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywhfbbWco0 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpl-Vkjo3c > > J.B. Castagnos From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Fri Apr 2 20:03:31 2010 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 23:03:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Downunder Message-ID: <86e01.3ced2060.38e80a03@aol.com> By gosh there is way to much rare iron on the Blue Grass State. I here there just sitting around down there in the recliners and the good engines just show up at there door's. Old farmers just giving that iron away. PS don't worry about that cheep iron ore over yonder, were giving cash out over here. KK In a message dated 4/2/2010 9:35:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, flywheel at netconnect.com.au writes: With all this iron going to KY I think there needs to be some consideration to sending some 'Downunder' so as to re balance the world again, especially as we are selling all of our mineral ore as fast and as cheaply as we can to China. So in the interests of saving the planet, I humbly volunteer to receive any donations of 'old iron' and keep it safe for generations to come... :) Regards, Mark > Mark Kennedy Ballarat, Victoria, Australia Registrar for the WING Gauge & Instrument Co. http://www.oldengine.org/members/kennedy 'Training Down Under with the majesty of the South Australian Railways' All aboard the Pichi Richi Railway! http://www.prr.org.au/ *********************************************************** Important - This email and any attachments are confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any effected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 20:48:39 2010 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 23:48:39 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Downunder In-Reply-To: <04F1B516-6E3C-4CE7-891F-F1413AE17B01@netconnect.com.au> Message-ID: <6BC982ED1D994D1B91B03032A708C027@D2JYVHJ1> Hey Mark, I see all the Rally reports from down under. There's gotten to be so much iron in Australia that my compass won't work right any more. Tommy Turner So in the interests of saving the planet, I humbly volunteer to receive any donations of 'old iron' and keep it safe for generations to come... :) Regards, Mark > Mark Kennedy Ballarat, Victoria, Australia From FRM8198 at aol.com Fri Apr 2 21:11:55 2010 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 00:11:55 EDT Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working Message-ID: <9681a.4f8120ab.38e81a0b@aol.com> J.B., Thanks for sharing. Francis In a message dated 4/2/2010 6:05:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jbcast at charter.net writes: We had our spring kickoff last weekend, weather was good, good food and great people. There's a link to pictures below and some you tube videos. From kkinney at herculesengines.com Fri Apr 2 21:14:15 2010 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 23:14:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> References: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> Message-ID: J.B. WOW! What a great time you guys must have had. Thanks for posting the great photo's and videos. Keith Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From mr at carolina.rr.com Sat Apr 3 05:47:30 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 08:47:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working References: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> Message-ID: <001e01cad32b$d31d07b0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Man that looks like a ton of fun. And happy birthday I see! Best to you and all your buddies JB. MR ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:57 PM Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working > We had our spring kickoff last weekend, weather was good, good food and > great people. There's a link to pictures below and some you tube videos. > > > > > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/4/136989.html > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iirpza4iqc > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywhfbbWco0 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpl-Vkjo3c > > J.B. Castagnos > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Sat Apr 3 06:30:18 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 06:30:18 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> References: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> Message-ID: On Apr 2, 2010, at 5:57 PM, wrote: > We had our spring kickoff last weekend, weather was good, good food > and great people. There's a link to pictures below and some you tube > videos. > > > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/4/136989.html > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iirpza4iqc > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywhfbbWco0 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpl-Vkjo3c > > J.B. Castagnos That sure looks like a hoot, JB. The bateaux are cool contraptions, but the one that I really want to copy is your bent coathanger. Rob From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Apr 3 07:04:13 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 10:04:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <8A167A3D62144ADEBA3D1B54F4D643DB@D2JYVHJ1> References: <8A167A3D62144ADEBA3D1B54F4D643DB@D2JYVHJ1> Message-ID: <8e2abadfc45cc9bde0f7629a8041012e.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Tommy, I think you've got the right thing going here. Whenever Dave and Jennie have that discussion it seems her diamond collection grows larger. 8-)) Of course, in her defense, they don't take up NEARLY as much room as a 10 or 15 hp engine. See ya, Arnie On Fri, April 2, 2010 8:25 pm, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > I told the wife around Christmas time that I either had to get rid of > some junk or build another building. She said "that sounds like an easy > one to answer". It was, I called the builder the following day and > signed the contract on the new one. From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Apr 3 07:12:27 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 10:12:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <17718081.1270247489422.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net > References: <17718081.1270247489422.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <600846f9642bd504dc5f27d5047c06f2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Tim, You are SO wrong. Recall that we're trying to RESTORE balance. That means that all this good ol' iron and steel needs to back to where it was born; The Steel City, Pittsburgh! As a lifelong resident of the Steel City I do hereby pledge to be a faithful caretaker of this incoming old iron. And in keeping with prior arrangements, any Maytags that get mixed in will be shuttled off to Maytag Mark for safe-keeping. See ya, Arnie On Fri, April 2, 2010 6:31 pm, Tim Christoff wrote: > I really can't believe how wrong you all are. If you place all that heavy stuff in > the areas stated your going to cause some major tilting of the US. All that stuff > needs to be placed here in the middle of the country to keep things in balance. We > have plenty of room, lots of open ground, no underground caves to cause sinking, > oceans to flood the land or any of those nasty mountains which make storage > difficult since everything would be at an angle. If all this stuff was placed in > the eastern parts Calf. would gain more ground as it would rise up due to the heavy > load in the east. Now do we really need more land on the west coast, the place is > in deep debt as it is now, they couldn't handle any more expense. No, I think the > simple solution is to bring it all to Kansas where there is land of plenty and > friendly people to take care of it. From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Apr 3 07:17:49 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 10:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <490B26CABCF843CD890ED75DC0D255AF@KerryPC> References: <490B26CABCF843CD890ED75DC0D255AF@KerryPC> Message-ID: Good'un Kerry!! The ol' "keel effect." On Fri, April 2, 2010 3:47 pm, Kerry wrote: > Typical Judge. understand the law and not real life 8-)) > > Tommy if you want the world to stay upright the way it is now, more weight > has to go to the bottom to keep centre of gravity correct, when things > travel south of the equator things get gravitated so that they cannot fall > off the earth. > So I think as a leading citizen up your way send some of the STUFF you have > down this way to keep things just right From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Apr 3 07:10:38 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 10:10:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Very nice J.B. Looks like a lot of fun. I've never had a boat with an antique marine engine but you make me want one. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > We had our spring kickoff last weekend, weather was good, good food > and great people. There's a link to pictures below and some you tube > videos. > > > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/4/136989.html > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iirpza4iqc > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywhfbbWco0 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpl-Vkjo3c > > J.B. Castagnos From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Apr 3 07:30:43 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 10:30:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> References: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> Message-ID: <0728c5ed8e3c97b3551f4e30efd27be0.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hiya J.B., DAMN, that looks like a super good time. I assume y'all put a proper end to those HUGE crawdads? BTW, there was ONE of those boat engines that looked just a teensy bit different from the others. Is that one rigged for water skiing? 8-)) Happy Birthday, ya young pup. See ya, Arnie On Fri, April 2, 2010 8:57 pm, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > We had our spring kickoff last weekend, weather was good, good food and great > people. There's a link to pictures below and some you tube videos. > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/4/136989.html From weolson at wiktel.com Sat Apr 3 07:47:16 2010 From: weolson at wiktel.com (William Olson) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 09:47:16 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <600846f9642bd504dc5f27d5047c06f2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <17718081.1270247489422.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <600846f9642bd504dc5f27d5047c06f2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <937175856.20100403094716@wiktel.com> Hi Arnie, Saturday, April 3, 2010, 9:12:27 AM, you wrote: AF> Tim, AF> You are SO wrong. Recall that we're trying to RESTORE balance. That means that all AF> this good ol' iron and steel needs to back to where it was born; The Steel City, AF> Pittsburgh! As a lifelong resident of the Steel City I do hereby pledge to be a AF> faithful caretaker of this incoming old iron. And in keeping with prior AF> arrangements, any Maytags that get mixed in will be shuttled off to Maytag Mark for AF> safe-keeping. AF> See ya, Arnie AF> SEL mailing list AF> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com AF> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Come on now, you should know that with the source in mind, it should all be returned to Minnesota where most of the iron ore came from in the first place to build those engines. -- One Old Swede, William Olson, Roosevelt, MN USA mailto:weolson at wiktel.com Outgoing mail checked by Comodo AntiVirus From gastzt at aol.com Sat Apr 3 08:21:49 2010 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 11:21:49 EDT Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working Message-ID: <8f6b0.487be256.38e8b70d@aol.com> In a message dated 4/3/2010 8:32:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, rob at rustyiron.com writes: http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/4/136989.html These are GREAT pics---wow! thanks! Stan Old Stovers From jerrye at databak.co.za Sat Apr 3 10:22:45 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:22:45 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100403192053.00d077e8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 03/04/2010, you wrote: >Message: 39 >Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 10:12:27 -0400 (EDT) >From: "Arnie Fero" >Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Message-ID: > <600846f9642bd504dc5f27d5047c06f2.squirrel at webmail.city-net.com> >Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > >Tim, > >You are SO wrong. Recall that we're trying to RESTORE balance. That >means that all >this good ol' iron and steel needs to back to where it was born; The Steel >City, >Pittsburgh! As a lifelong resident of the Steel City I do hereby pledge >to be a >faithful caretaker of this incoming old ................................ Note to Mike & Steve, Ever heard this line before ?? Think Lorenz register :-) Jerry From jbcast at charter.net Sat Apr 3 11:03:54 2010 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:03:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100403140354.PHV02.1661065.root@mp05> > > That sure looks like a hoot, JB. The bateaux are cool contraptions, > but the one that I really want to copy is your bent coathanger. > > Rob > Rob, go to the link below and see where the gearless trans got started, there's a you tube video of it working. J.B. http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3441/136893.html From tchristoff at earthlink.net Sat Apr 3 11:05:26 2010 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:05:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY Message-ID: <27459668.1270317926967.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Does that mean I have to drive back to PA and return the 2000 lbs of rusty iron I hauled out of there last weekend? Tim -----Original Message----- >From: Arnie Fero >Sent: Apr 3, 2010 10:12 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > >Tim, > >You are SO wrong. Recall that we're trying to RESTORE balance. That means that all >this good ol' iron and steel needs to back to where it was born; The Steel City, >Pittsburgh! As a lifelong resident of the Steel City I do hereby pledge to be a >faithful caretaker of this incoming old iron. And in keeping with prior >arrangements, any Maytags that get mixed in will be shuttled off to Maytag Mark for >safe-keeping. > >See ya, Arnie > Tim Christoff From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Apr 3 11:49:48 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:49:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <27459668.1270317926967.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <27459668.1270317926967.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Yep. 8-)) On Sat, April 3, 2010 2:05 pm, Tim Christoff wrote: > > Does that mean I have to drive back to PA and return the 2000 lbs of rusty iron I > hauled out of there last weekend? From swebre at hotmail.com Sat Apr 3 12:36:04 2010 From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 19:36:04 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What JB failed to mention is that the two days before, he lead 15 engine guys (locals, some Yankees and a even some Canadians) around the area visiting engine collections big and small. I missed the Friday excursion but someone said they had seen ~200+ engines in two days! The final gathering at JB's camp, getting the boats wet and eating excellent food was the crowning event. A great group w/ lots of fun had by all. -Steve- > We had our spring kickoff last weekend, weather was good, good food > and great people. There's a link to pictures below and some you tube > videos. > > > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/4/136989.html > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iirpza4iqc > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywhfbbWco0 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpl-Vkjo3c > > J.B. Castagnos From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Apr 3 13:19:19 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 16:19:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3c8444f6642a259c4fe96ca172e29173.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Sounds like a "Hell on Wheels Tour" - Cajun Style. On Sat, April 3, 2010 3:36 pm, Steve Webre wrote: > > What JB failed to mention is that the two days before, he lead 15 engine guys > (locals, some Yankees and a even some Canadians) around the area visiting engine > collections big and small. I missed the Friday excursion but someone said they had > seen ~200+ engines in two days! > > The final gathering at JB's camp, getting the boats wet and eating excellent food > was the crowning event. > > A great group w/ lots of fun had by all. > >> http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/4/136989.html From rotigel at me.com Sat Apr 3 13:45:06 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 16:45:06 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: <20100403140354.PHV02.1661065.root@mp05> References: <20100403140354.PHV02.1661065.root@mp05> Message-ID: That is NEAT J.B.! Sure one hell of a lot simpler that the Turbo Encabulator on which Arnie is working. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLDgQg6bq7o Dave On Apr 3, 2010, at 2:03 PM, jbcast at charter.net wrote: Dave >> >> That sure looks like a hoot, JB. The bateaux are cool contraptions, >> but the one that I really want to copy is your bent coathanger. >> >> Rob >> > Rob, go to the link below and see where the gearless trans got > started, there's a you tube video of it working. > J.B. > > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3441/136893.html From mr at carolina.rr.com Sat Apr 3 14:56:34 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:56:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100403192053.00d077e8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <003201cad378$87102940$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Now that's funny Jerry!!!!!!!!!!!! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Evans" To: Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > At 06:00 PM 03/04/2010, you wrote: >>Message: 39 >>Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 10:12:27 -0400 (EDT) >>From: "Arnie Fero" >>Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>Message-ID: >> <600846f9642bd504dc5f27d5047c06f2.squirrel at webmail.city-net.com> >>Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 >> >>Tim, >> >>You are SO wrong. Recall that we're trying to RESTORE balance. That >>means that all >>this good ol' iron and steel needs to back to where it was born; The Steel >>City, >>Pittsburgh! As a lifelong resident of the Steel City I do hereby pledge >>to be a >>faithful caretaker of this incoming old ................................ > > > Note to Mike & Steve, > Ever heard this line before ?? Think Lorenz register :-) > Jerry > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Sat Apr 3 15:07:19 2010 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 23:07:19 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY References: <27459668.1270317926967.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4486C0B41DBD4A729ACAEF5F1190E530@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Guys, Guys the best way to RESTORE the balance would be to place all those really lovely engines into containers and ship them to SCOTLAND where they will be looked after very well . We can also arrange to post pictures of the collection as it grows, I'm sure that this proposal would help restore the balance. Cheers, Craig > -----Original Message----- >>From: Arnie Fero >>Sent: Apr 3, 2010 10:12 AM >>To: The SEL email discussion list >>Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY >> >>Tim, >> >>You are SO wrong. Recall that we're trying to RESTORE balance. That >>means that all >>this good ol' iron and steel needs to back to where it was born; The Steel >>City, >>Pittsburgh! As a lifelong resident of the Steel City I do hereby pledge >>to be a >>faithful caretaker of this incoming old iron. And in keeping with prior >>arrangements, any Maytags that get mixed in will be shuttled off to Maytag >>Mark for >>safe-keeping. >> >>See ya, Arnie >> > > > > Tim Christoff > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2787 - Release Date: 04/03/10 06:32:00 From jbcast at charter.net Sat Apr 3 16:05:12 2010 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 16:05:12 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100403190512.OFRP9.4061275.root@mp06> ---- Steve Webre wrote: > > > > What JB failed to mention is that the two days before, he lead 15 engine guys (locals, some Yankees and a even some Canadians) around the area visiting engine collections big and small. I missed the Friday excursion but someone said they had seen ~200+ engines in two days! > > > > The final gathering at JB's camp, getting the boats wet and eating excellent food was the crowning event. > > > > A great group w/ lots of fun had by all. > > > > -Steve- > We call it the power tour, we left 7AM Friday, got home just before 10PM. Coverd 250 miles that day, 10 stops. Steve and Mel Webre were the second to last stop, they had coffe and snacks waiting. J.B. From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 3 17:01:32 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <982174.49205.qm@web111720.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> How about the little Snow engine we just got up to the Buckley show grounds last Summer? ? I don't remember the exacy weight right now but it was close to half a million pounds. something like 454,000 pounds of iron. ? Alan in Michigan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick Rowlands Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:38 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio You must not have heard about the second big chunk of iron that is coming to Youngstown.???Its a 26" x 54" x 48" cross compound generating engine built by Westinghouse Machine Co. in 1905.? 18' flywheel ,estimated weight 150 tons. http://news.webshots.com/photo/2509985150033749120bRkwaV So you now only have about 400 tons worth of engines to balance out! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio > Rick, > We're already trying to determine how to balance out the weight > on that BIG hunk of iron there in Youngstown already. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Rowlands > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:56 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio > > ALL stationary steam engines of 100 ton or more are to be shipped (via > as > many trucks as needed) to Youngstown, OH.? I'll pay the freight. > > Rick > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Apr 3 17:19:12 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 20:19:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <27459668.1270317926967.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <6738A8BEEAC24D90A2650CB79283A611@tommydk7hxjr4h> No Tim, don't pay any attention to Arnie. You don't have to drive all the way to PA, you can just drop it off in KY. Tommy Turner Does that mean I have to drive back to PA and return the 2000 lbs of rusty iron I hauled out of there last weekend? Tim From tchristoff at earthlink.net Sat Apr 3 21:49:13 2010 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 00:49:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY Message-ID: <14761904.1270356553330.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net> That would be closer (that is a long drive to PA.) and after leaving all that east coast iron at your place I will gladly remove anything that came from the west side of the Mississippi River and return it closer to where it should be, that is providing you might have a KC haypress engine lying around, do you? Tim -----Original Message----- >From: Judge Tommy Turner >Sent: Apr 3, 2010 8:19 PM >To: 'The SEL email discussion list' >Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > >No Tim, don't pay any attention to Arnie. You don't have to drive all >the way to PA, you can just drop it off in KY. > >Tommy Turner > > > > >Does that mean I have to drive back to PA and return the 2000 lbs of >rusty iron I hauled out of there last weekend? > >Tim > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Apr 4 05:33:24 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:33:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <14761904.1270356553330.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3134184CDCBC47FEAE9DF3688D8CB715@tommydk7hxjr4h> Yeah Tim, a couple of them in fact. But, moving them west will upset the global balance of iron. We still have a considerable amount of weight to gather here! Tommy Turner That would be closer (that is a long drive to PA.) and after leaving all that east coast iron at your place I will gladly remove anything that came from the west side of the Mississippi River and return it closer to where it should be, that is providing you might have a KC haypress engine lying around, do you? Tim From steve_royster at hotmail.com Sun Apr 4 11:08:45 2010 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 14:08:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Engine Literature In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: >Hi from N.C. If any of you knows who bought the Gilson E catalog on Ebay or the Chapman Economizer Catalog last week, I'd sure love to have a photocopy of them. I'm also looking for literature on National Engineering Co engines. Thanks Steve _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Sun Apr 4 11:14:08 2010 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 12:14:08 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel In-Reply-To: <5DFC8792735E45BD98AD79C21D0A1A06@shop> References: <5DFC8792735E45BD98AD79C21D0A1A06@shop> Message-ID: Thank you all and Happy Easter. I guess we will go with the brownells at the link below. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Otto" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Spring Steel > HI Rick > > Here is one option; > > http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26219/Product/NO__149_FLAT_SPRING_STOCK > > This material so dead soft; cut form, and drill to your liking. Then have > someone with a furnace heat treat it and temper it to the proper > springiness > for you. > > Dave > > > Dave Otto > Boise, Idaho > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard > Strobel > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 10:34 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel > > Need some help gang. How does one cut/form flat plate spring steel? We > need one for the dog on the ratchet that advances the bolt of wood on our > shingle mill. > > Pix at; > > http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2794526910039077051PBYOMo > > "Thanks for looking" > > RickinMt. > > PS: Thinking about using the flat stock off an ole putty knife ???? > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4910 (20100302) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4910 (20100302) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4910 (20100302) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From flywheelin at hotmail.com Mon Apr 5 04:51:31 2010 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 11:51:31 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> References: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> Message-ID: Great pictures. Loved the videos! Thanks for taking the time to take and post them. Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ---------------------------------------- > Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 17:57:23 -0700 > From: jbcast at charter.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working > > We had our spring kickoff last weekend, weather was good, good food and great people. There's a link to pictures below and some you tube videos. > > > > > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/4/136989.html > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iirpza4iqc > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywhfbbWco0 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpl-Vkjo3c > > J.B. Castagnos > _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From George_Best at adp.com Mon Apr 5 08:47:11 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:47:11 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Norm Karde In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39D404DC@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Anyone got an email address for Norm Karde in Loomis CA? The email address I had is no longer working. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Apr 5 10:04:31 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:04:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Norm Karde In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39D404DC@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad .adp.com> References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39D404DC@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <20100405170427.D3E409212@smtp.wcoil.com> At 11:47 AM 4/5/2010, you wrote: >Anyone got an email address for Norm Karde in Loomis CA? > >The email address I had is no longer working. > >George George, The last I have is from 09 norman karde Mark Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Apr 5 10:14:03 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:14:03 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing Message-ID: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> Has any one noticed an unusually long delay in the time it takes for a post to appear once you send it? Not a bid deal per say. But for example when I see a question asked and I can answer it, I do if nobody else has replied. Then later I see others have answered with time stamps from before I answered. Yet they were not there before I answered. My email program refreshes every two minutes. So thats not the delay point . Like I said not a big deal but it wastes time and clutters up the list to answer when someone else already has. Is this a problem with my ISP or a list peculiarity? Mark Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 USA 419.358.5206 From George_Best at adp.com Mon Apr 5 10:14:37 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:14:37 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Norm Karde In-Reply-To: <20100405170427.D3E409212@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39D404DC@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <20100405170427.D3E409212@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39D40841@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Thanks Mark! I've give that one a try. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark Shulaw Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:05 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Norm Karde At 11:47 AM 4/5/2010, you wrote: >Anyone got an email address for Norm Karde in Loomis CA? > >The email address I had is no longer working. > >George George, The last I have is from 09 norman karde Mark Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Apr 5 10:39:38 2010 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:39:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Hi Mark, Several responses I have sent lately never showed up at all, and sometimes I don't get original posts. I catch part of a thread with no idea of it's start. Steve > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:14:03 -0400 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > From: frappi at wcoil.com > Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > Has any one noticed an unusually long delay in the time it takes for > a post to appear once you send it? Not a bid deal per say. But for > example when I see a question asked and I can answer it, I do if > nobody else has replied. Then later I see others have answered with > time stamps from before I answered. Yet they were not there before I > answered. My email program refreshes every two minutes. So thats not > the delay point . Like I said not a big deal but it wastes time and > clutters up the list to answer when someone else already has. Is this > a problem with my ISP or a list peculiarity? Mark > > > Mark & Christine Shulaw > Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 > USA > 419.358.5206 > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From George_Best at adp.com Mon Apr 5 11:08:36 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:08:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39D40A49@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Steve, Depends on the BS level settings you are using on your email filters. If you have a low BS tolerance level, then a lot of the Royster messages get dropped ;-) George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve Royster Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:40 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing Hi Mark, Several responses I have sent lately never showed up at all, and sometimes I don't get original posts. I catch part of a thread with no idea of it's start. Steve This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From Germoamer at aol.com Mon Apr 5 11:25:55 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:25:55 EDT Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing Message-ID: In a message dated 4/5/2010 2:16:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, George_Best at adp.com writes: If you have a low BS tolerance level, then a lot of the Royster messages get dropped And here I thought it was because I still have a slow country dial-up system! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From rotigel at me.com Mon Apr 5 11:27:18 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:27:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <02734641-8292-4614-8D5B-9DE238B72809@me.com> On Apr 5, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Steve Royster wrote: > > Hi Mark, I catch part of a thread with no idea of it's start. Steve Damn Steve, I had no idea you were a DEMOCRAT! Dave From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Apr 5 12:44:11 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:44:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <20100405194407.5EEB6928D@smtp.wcoil.com> Now that you mention it I have noticed the missing original post too. Mark At 01:39 PM 4/5/2010, you wrote: >Hi Mark, Several responses I have sent lately never showed up at >all, and sometimes I don't get original posts. I catch part of a >thread with no idea of it's start. Steve > > > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:14:03 -0400 > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > From: frappi at wcoil.com > > Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > > > Has any one noticed an unusually long delay in the time it takes for > > a post to appear once you send it? Not a bid deal per say. But for > > example when I see a question asked and I can answer it, I do if > > nobody else has replied. Then later I see others have answered with > > time stamps from before I answered. Yet they were not there before I > > answered. My email program refreshes every two minutes. So thats not > > the delay point . Like I said not a big deal but it wastes time and > > clutters up the list to answer when someone else already has. Is this > > a problem with my ISP or a list peculiarity? Mark > > > > > > Mark & Christine Shulaw > > Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 > > USA > > 419.358.5206 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >_________________________________________________________________ >The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts >with Hotmail. >http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2792 - Release Date: >04/05/10 06:32:00 Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Apr 5 12:45:14 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:45:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39D40A49@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad .adp.com> References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39D40A49@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <20100405194510.0FF5A8D72@smtp.wcoil.com> I have my BS level settings at Zero so I can get them all to learn from the master. Mark At 02:08 PM 4/5/2010, you wrote: >Steve, > >Depends on the BS level settings you are using on your email >filters. If you have a low BS tolerance level, then a lot of the >Royster messages get dropped ;-) > >George > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve Royster >Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:40 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > >Hi Mark, Several responses I have sent lately never showed up at >all, and sometimes I don't get original posts. I catch part of a >thread with no idea of it's start. Steve > > > >This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of >the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and >confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended >recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, >you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication >is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in >error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message >and any attachments from your system. > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2792 - Release Date: >04/05/10 06:32:00 Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Apr 5 12:59:48 2010 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:59:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: <02734641-8292-4614-8D5B-9DE238B72809@me.com> References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com>, , <02734641-8292-4614-8D5B-9DE238B72809@me.com> Message-ID: Geee whizzz, I'm getting all teary eyed, I can just feel the love from all my pals on the list! , It makes me want to give away rare engines. Steve, the good Royster > From: rotigel at me.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:27:18 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > On Apr 5, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Steve Royster wrote: > > > > > Hi Mark, I catch part of a thread with no idea of it's start. Steve > > Damn Steve, I had no idea you were a DEMOCRAT! > Dave > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Mon Apr 5 13:35:35 2010 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:35:35 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com>, , <02734641-8292-4614-8D5B-9DE238B72809@me.com> Message-ID: <7AE2B73C29054B82BC3882B5EB20A5BE@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Steve, If you want to give some engines away just put the National Engineering and something else that's really nice in one of that steel crates that Mike has and ship them to Scotland, where they will be very well cared for . Cheers, Craig. P.S; I'll PM you my details so you can ship them safely without Mike knowing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > Geee whizzz, I'm getting all teary eyed, I can just feel the love from all > my pals on the list! , It makes me want to give away rare engines. > Steve, the good Royster > >> From: rotigel at me.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:27:18 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing >> >> >> On Apr 5, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Steve Royster wrote: >> >> > >> > Hi Mark, I catch part of a thread with no idea of it's start. Steve >> >> Damn Steve, I had no idea you were a DEMOCRAT! >> Dave >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2792 - Release Date: 04/05/10 06:32:00 From langer5 at xplornet.ca Mon Apr 5 14:20:48 2010 From: langer5 at xplornet.ca (Larry Anger) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:20:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Steve - I also get a lot of posts where the original message is missing and you don't know where the thread originated. That has been happening for a long time. Larry Anger 163926 Brownsville Rd. R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario Canada N4G 4G8 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > Hi Mark, Several responses I have sent lately never showed up at all, and > sometimes I don't get original posts. I catch part of a thread with no > idea of it's start. Steve > >> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:14:03 -0400 >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> From: frappi at wcoil.com >> Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing >> >> >> Has any one noticed an unusually long delay in the time it takes for >> a post to appear once you send it? Not a bid deal per say. But for >> example when I see a question asked and I can answer it, I do if >> nobody else has replied. Then later I see others have answered with >> time stamps from before I answered. Yet they were not there before I >> answered. My email program refreshes every two minutes. So thats not >> the delay point . Like I said not a big deal but it wastes time and >> clutters up the list to answer when someone else already has. Is this >> a problem with my ISP or a list peculiarity? Mark >> >> >> Mark & Christine Shulaw >> Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 >> USA >> 419.358.5206 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Mon Apr 5 15:02:38 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:02:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com>, , <02734641-8292-4614-8D5B-9DE238B72809@me.com> Message-ID: <355625386A5B4A7B8540953AA509CC6D@regpc> I cannot type for laughing!!! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 5:59 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > Geee whizzz, I'm getting all teary eyed, I can just feel the love from all > my pals on the list! , It makes me want to give away rare engines. > Steve, the good Royster > >> From: rotigel at me.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:27:18 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing >> >> >> On Apr 5, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Steve Royster wrote: >> >> > >> > Hi Mark, I catch part of a thread with no idea of it's start. Steve >> >> Damn Steve, I had no idea you were a DEMOCRAT! >> Dave >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lfevans at pacbell.net Mon Apr 5 16:27:01 2010 From: lfevans at pacbell.net (Larry Evans) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:27:01 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20100405161752.04419ac8@pop.att.yahoo.com> Larry, I think that what is happening is that some folks that are on both this and Jim Dunmyer's list on OldEngine.org might send a reply to both lists to a message that appeared originally on just one list. It can be confusing but probably results in more people getting involved. Larry Evans At 02:20 PM 4/5/2010, you wrote: >Steve - I also get a lot of posts where the original message is missing and >you don't know where the thread originated. That has been happening for a >long time. > >Larry Anger >163926 Brownsville Rd. >R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario >Canada N4G 4G8 Larry Evans MailTo:LFEVANS at pacbell.net http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Apr 5 17:52:14 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:52:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com>, , <02734641-8292-4614-8D5B-9DE238B72809@me.com> <355625386A5B4A7B8540953AA509CC6D@regpc> Message-ID: <003e01cad523$66332540$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Yeah, "Steve the good Royster" is pretty darn hilarious!!!!!!!! Mike ( the truly good ) Royster ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reg Ingold" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing >I cannot type for laughing!!! > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle.NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Royster" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 5:59 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > >> >> Geee whizzz, I'm getting all teary eyed, I can just feel the love from >> all >> my pals on the list! , It makes me want to give away rare engines. >> Steve, the good Royster >> >>> From: rotigel at me.com >>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:27:18 -0400 >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing >>> >>> >>> On Apr 5, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Steve Royster wrote: >>> >>> > >>> > Hi Mark, I catch part of a thread with no idea of it's start. Steve >>> >>> Damn Steve, I had no idea you were a DEMOCRAT! >>> Dave >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your >> inbox. >> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From kkinney at herculesengines.com Mon Apr 5 18:17:38 2010 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:17:38 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <817368BD-0F3D-4BA2-A300-7DDD61C43ED7@herculesengines.com> Yep, have that problem all the time. Keith On Apr 5, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Mark Shulaw wrote: > Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Apr 5 18:39:52 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:39:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20100405161752.04419ac8@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20100405161752.04419ac8@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100406013947.0055792E4@smtp.wcoil.com> I already thought of this but I am on both lists. So bust on that idea. Mark At 07:27 PM 4/5/2010, you wrote: >Larry, > >I think that what is happening is that some folks that are on both this and >Jim Dunmyer's list on OldEngine.org might send a reply to both lists to a >message that appeared originally on just one list. It can be confusing but >probably results in more people getting involved. > >Larry Evans > >At 02:20 PM 4/5/2010, you wrote: > >Steve - I also get a lot of posts where the original message is missing and > >you don't know where the thread originated. That has been happening for a > >long time. > > > >Larry Anger > >163926 Brownsville Rd. > >R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario > >Canada N4G 4G8 > >Larry Evans >MailTo:LFEVANS at pacbell.net >http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2793 - Release Date: >04/05/10 18:32:00 Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From langer5 at xplornet.ca Mon Apr 5 19:48:55 2010 From: langer5 at xplornet.ca (Larry Anger) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:48:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com><6.0.1.1.2.20100405161752.04419ac8@pop.att.yahoo.com> <20100406013947.0055792E4@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <2DD446D75DB84BCDBFB0A1BDB001FAF4@larryf92159205> I didn't even get my own message back through the list so I don't have any idea what is happening. Larry Anger 163926 Brownsville Rd. R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario Canada N4G 4G8 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Shulaw" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing >I already thought of this but I am on both lists. So bust on that idea. >Mark > > At 07:27 PM 4/5/2010, you wrote: >>Larry, >> >>I think that what is happening is that some folks that are on both this >>and >>Jim Dunmyer's list on OldEngine.org might send a reply to both lists to a >>message that appeared originally on just one list. It can be confusing but >>probably results in more people getting involved. >> >>Larry Evans >> >>At 02:20 PM 4/5/2010, you wrote: >> >Steve - I also get a lot of posts where the original message is missing >> >and >> >you don't know where the thread originated. That has been happening for >> >a >> >long time. >> > >> >Larry Anger >> >163926 Brownsville Rd. >> >R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario >> >Canada N4G 4G8 >> >>Larry Evans >>MailTo:LFEVANS at pacbell.net >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2793 - Release Date: >>04/05/10 18:32:00 > > > Mark Shulaw > 454 County Road 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Mon Apr 5 20:54:10 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 23:54:10 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: <2DD446D75DB84BCDBFB0A1BDB001FAF4@larryf92159205> References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20100405161752.04419ac8@pop.att.yahoo.com> <20100406013947.0055792E4@smtp.wcoil.com> <2DD446D75DB84BCDBFB0A1BDB001FAF4@larryf92159205> Message-ID: <1F5F6391-DC9E-4313-92AE-B2D853DB3A1E@me.com> Damn, ANOTHER democrat! Dave On Apr 5, 2010, at 10:48 PM, Larry Anger wrote: > I don't have any > idea what is happening. > > Larry Anger From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Apr 6 06:54:41 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:54:41 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: <7AE2B73C29054B82BC3882B5EB20A5BE@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Message-ID: Steve: Don't let that Scot sweet talk you into sending your McVicker overseas! Not for all the haggis in Scotland, I say! Instead, send it to me here in the good 'ol Redneck Riviera where I will fully appreciate it. The most important reason is so I can study it for my version, The McVickerish Engine. Make sure you crate it securely and email the tracking number as soon as the truck leaves so I'll have some idea of when it will arrive. Thank you so much for showing such kindness to a fellow Collector of Oddball Iron. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of craig > morrison > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 03:36 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > Steve, > If you want to give some engines away > just put the National > Engineering and something else that's really nice > in one of that steel > crates that Mike has and ship them to Scotland, > where they will be very well > cared for . > Cheers, Craig. > P.S; I'll PM you my details so you can ship them > safely without Mike > knowing. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Royster" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:59 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > > > Geee whizzz, I'm getting all teary eyed, I can > just feel the love from all > > my pals on the list! , It makes me want to give > away rare engines. > > Steve, the good Royster From marinesurveys at msn.com Tue Apr 6 06:59:12 2010 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 09:59:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: References: <7AE2B73C29054B82BC3882B5EB20A5BE@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>, Message-ID: Hey Elden; I recieved the simpson book & thanks, the other one I didnt have a meter for, should I return that one? Many thanks Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: edurand at mchsi.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:54:41 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > Steve: > > Don't let that Scot sweet talk you into sending your McVicker overseas! Not for all the haggis in Scotland, I say! > > Instead, send it to me here in the good 'ol Redneck Riviera where I will fully appreciate it. The most important reason is so I can study it for my version, The McVickerish Engine. > > Make sure you crate it securely and email the tracking number as soon as the truck leaves so I'll have some idea of when it will arrive. > > Thank you so much for showing such kindness to a fellow Collector of Oddball Iron. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of craig > > morrison > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 03:36 PM > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > > > Steve, > > If you want to give some engines away > > just put the National > > Engineering and something else that's really nice > > in one of that steel > > crates that Mike has and ship them to Scotland, > > where they will be very well > > cared for . > > Cheers, Craig. > > P.S; I'll PM you my details so you can ship them > > safely without Mike > > knowing. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steve Royster" > > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:59 PM > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > > > > > > > Geee whizzz, I'm getting all teary eyed, I can > > just feel the love from all > > > my pals on the list! , It makes me want to give > > away rare engines. > > > Steve, the good Royster > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From steve_royster at hotmail.com Tue Apr 6 08:44:30 2010 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:44:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: References: <7AE2B73C29054B82BC3882B5EB20A5BE@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>, Message-ID: Don't worry Elden, Scotland will never see that engine. As it is Craig has so much Iron accumulated that I fear it will break off and sink into the sea. To restore world balance, he should be sending iron back to the USA! Steve > From: edurand at mchsi.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:54:41 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > Steve: > > Don't let that Scot sweet talk you into sending your McVicker overseas! Not for all the haggis in Scotland, I say! > > Instead, send it to me here in the good 'ol Redneck Riviera where I will fully appreciate it. The most important reason is so I can study it for my version, The McVickerish Engine. > > Make sure you crate it securely and email the tracking number as soon as the truck leaves so I'll have some idea of when it will arrive. > > Thank you so much for showing such kindness to a fellow Collector of Oddball Iron. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of craig > > morrison > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 03:36 PM > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > > > Steve, > > If you want to give some engines away > > just put the National > > Engineering and something else that's really nice > > in one of that steel > > crates that Mike has and ship them to Scotland, > > where they will be very well > > cared for . > > Cheers, Craig. > > P.S; I'll PM you my details so you can ship them > > safely without Mike > > knowing. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steve Royster" > > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:59 PM > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > > > > > > > Geee whizzz, I'm getting all teary eyed, I can > > just feel the love from all > > > my pals on the list! , It makes me want to give > > away rare engines. > > > Steve, the good Royster > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Apr 6 10:03:15 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 19:03:15 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100406185624.00ceddf0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 06/04/2010, you wrote: >Message: 12 >Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:20:48 -0400 >From: "Larry Anger" >Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >Steve - I also get a lot of posts where the original message is missing and >you don't know where the thread originated. That has been happening for a >long time. > >Larry Anger Hi Larry (and all), That does occasionally happen to me (but more often on the "Oldengine list"). I only get the Digest version of this (S.E.L.) list so often topics are already sorted out before I get it (like this one). My affliction (verbal diarrhea) still makes me post useless posts like this one :-) even "after the fact" Keep well Guys 'n Gals Jerry From rotigel at me.com Tue Apr 6 13:52:39 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:52:39 -0400 Subject: [SEL] John Cullom??????/Galloway List Message-ID: I need John Cullom's e-address and/or his snail. Any help will be appreciated! he needs to see/record the guarantee at: http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=35634 Dave From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Apr 6 17:42:27 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 19:42:27 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Frank: I'm glad you have a use for the manual but you have to keep (or dispose of) the other one. I really don't need to have it back. Enjoy! Take care - Elden > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of frank > skinner > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 08:59 AM > To: AA_OLD ENGINE > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > Hey Elden; > > I recieved the simpson book & thanks, the other > one I didnt have a meter for, > > should I return that one? From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Apr 6 17:46:08 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 19:46:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Now, Steve, You need to remember that the center of gravity is too far north and, to save the earth from tipping over (not to mention globular warming), that engine needs to be down here so we can restore the precious balance. I'm waiting. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Steve > Royster > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:45 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > Don't worry Elden, Scotland will never see that > engine. As it is Craig has so much Iron > accumulated that I fear it will break off and > sink into the sea. To restore world balance, he > should be sending iron back to the USA! Steve > > > From: edurand at mchsi.com > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:54:41 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > Steve: > > > > Don't let that Scot sweet talk you into sending > your McVicker overseas! Not for all the haggis in > Scotland, I say! > > > > Instead, send it to me here in the good 'ol > Redneck Riviera where I will fully appreciate it. > The most important reason is so I can study it > for my version, The McVickerish Engine. > > > > Make sure you crate it securely and email the > tracking number as soon as the truck leaves so > I'll have some idea of when it will arrive. > > > > Thank you so much for showing such kindness to > a fellow Collector of Oddball Iron. > > > > Take care - Elden > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > > Behalf Of craig > > > morrison > > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 03:36 PM > > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > > > > > > Steve, > > > If you want to give some engines away > > > just put the National > > > Engineering and something else that's really nice > > > in one of that steel > > > crates that Mike has and ship them to Scotland, > > > where they will be very well > > > cared for . > > > Cheers, Craig. > > > P.S; I'll PM you my details so you can ship them > > > safely without Mike > > > knowing. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Steve Royster" > > > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:59 PM > > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geee whizzz, I'm getting all teary eyed, I can > > > just feel the love from all > > > > my pals on the list! , It makes me want to give > > > away rare engines. > > > > Steve, the good Royster > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > __________________________________________________ > _______________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New > Busy. Get more from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?oci d=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From oldironnut at windstream.net Wed Apr 7 06:14:19 2010 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:14:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] John Cullom??????/Galloway List In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <58555037-B0A9-4AFA-9020-2D822A202D7D@windstream.net> Dave, Assuming he's still living at the same place as he was when I visited him ~10 years ago his snail is: 1606 Exeter Rd Westminster, MD 21157 I also did a search at anywho.com for him and thats the address that came up and it maps to the same house that I visited. Sorry, I don't have his email. See ya', Mike On Apr 6, 2010, at 4:52 PM, David Rotigel wrote: > I need John Cullom's e-address and/or his snail. Any help will be > appreciated! he needs to see/record the guarantee at: http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=35634 > Dave ______________________ Michael Tucker oldironnut at windstream.net Versailles, Kentucky, USA ______________________ From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 06:36:40 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:36:40 +0100 Subject: [SEL] John Cullom??????/Galloway List In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6 April 2010 21:52, David Rotigel wrote: > I need John Cullom's e-address and/or his snail. Any help will be > appreciated! he needs to see/record the guarantee at: http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=35634 > ? ? ? ?Dave Try this one. Dave: jcullom at adelphia.net Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Apr 7 20:49:55 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:49:55 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New engine cart Message-ID: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> Hi all. The cart for the 12 hp headless Witte is finished except for sandblasting and painting. This one has automobile type steering that was inspired by a picture posted on oldengine. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/WitteCart# You may have to add the # symbol on the end. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ 2550% Penny Stock Gains? Our last pick exploded 2550% - Join our newsletter for free picks! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bbd5295c65e316d5fast02vuc From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Apr 7 21:12:42 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:12:42 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New engine cart In-Reply-To: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <327B064E-7BC3-410F-8D58-96014DDB59A2@rustyiron.com> On Apr 7, 2010, at 8:49 PM, rdhaskell wrote: > Hi all. > The cart for the 12 hp headless Witte is finished except for > sandblasting > and painting. This one has automobile type steering that was > inspired by > a picture posted on oldengine. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/WitteCart# Fancy metal workin' there, Ron. Will she be ready for next week? Rob From FRM8198 at aol.com Wed Apr 7 21:40:04 2010 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:40:04 EDT Subject: [SEL] New engine cart Message-ID: <41f6b.27289561.38eeb824@aol.com> Thanks for sharing. Francis In a message dated 4/7/2010 8:52:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rdhaskell at juno.com writes: The cart for the 12 hp headless Witte is finished except for sandblasting and painting From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Apr 8 04:29:35 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 07:29:35 EDT Subject: [SEL] New engine cart Message-ID: <79cd.e53ea26.38ef181f@aol.com> Hey Ron, That is a lot of nice work there. What are all the stickers on the wheels, store bar codes? Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From winkandginger at aol.com Thu Apr 8 06:04:31 2010 From: winkandginger at aol.com (winkandginger at aol.com) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:04:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] New engine cart In-Reply-To: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <8CCA53329911BB2-62C-1CB0@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> Another example of your quality workmanship! Wink -----Original Message----- From: rdhaskell To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org Sent: Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:49 pm Subject: [SEL] New engine cart Hi all. The cart for the 12 hp headless Witte is finished except for sandblasting and painting. This one has automobile type steering that was inspired by a picture posted on oldengine. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/WitteCart# You may have to add the # symbol on the end. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ 2550% Penny Stock Gains? Our last pick exploded 2550% - Join our newsletter for free picks! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bbd5295c65e316d5fast02vuc _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frappi at wcoil.com Thu Apr 8 07:10:37 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:10:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coal Mines Message-ID: <20100408141032.396F4938F@smtp.wcoil.com> Do we have any fellow iron collectors connected with the mine accident in Whitesville West Virginia? Mark Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 USA 419.358.5206 From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Apr 8 07:21:42 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 07:21:42 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New engine cart In-Reply-To: <8CCA53329911BB2-62C-1CB0@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> References: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> <8CCA53329911BB2-62C-1CB0@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Apr 8, 2010, at 6:04 AM, WinkAndGinger at aol.com wrote: > Another example of your quality workmanship! > > Wink Hey, Wink. Will you and your bride be coming down from the hills next week? Dick & Maureen will be making breakfast, if you get up early enough. From jlb94 at juno.com Thu Apr 8 07:53:02 2010 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:53:02 GMT Subject: [SEL] New engine cart Message-ID: <20100408.105302.18845.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com> Excellent job, Ron. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Be kinder than necessary - - - (_o_) everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: rdhaskell To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com, stationary-engine at oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] New engine cart Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:49:55 -0700 Hi all. The cart for the 12 hp headless Witte is finished except for sandblasting and painting. This one has automobile type steering that was inspired by a picture posted on oldengine. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/WitteCart# You may have to add the # symbol on the end. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ 2550% Penny Stock Gains? Our last pick exploded 2550% - Join our newsletter for free picks! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bbd5295c65e316d5fast02vuc _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frappi at wcoil.com Thu Apr 8 07:55:41 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:55:41 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in Posts appearing In-Reply-To: <20100408141032.396F4938F@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20100408141032.396F4938F@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <20100408145536.16280938F@smtp.wcoil.com> The coal mine post is another example of delays in posts appearing. I sent two notes one to the SEL the other to Old Engines at the same time. The post to Old Engines appeared within 2 minutes, the SEL post did not return for about 40 minutes. Mark At 10:10 AM 4/8/2010, you wrote: >Do we have any fellow iron collectors connected with the mine >accident in Whitesville West Virginia? Mark > > > >Mark & Christine Shulaw >Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 >USA >419.358.5206 Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 USA 419.358.5206 From kosh at ncweb.com Thu Apr 8 08:14:47 2010 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 11:14:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coal Mines In-Reply-To: <20100408141032.396F4938F@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20100408111127.0dcb2540@ncweb.com> I have a couple friends that work underground in southern Ohio. Makes you think. Note, all mines tend to have a large number of violations at any given time. Most are nit-picky, but handy to bring up to put the blame on the owners at times like this. Dave Merchant At 10:10 AM 4/8/2010, you wrote: >Do we have any fellow iron collectors connected with the mine >accident in Whitesville West Virginia? Mark > > > >Mark & Christine Shulaw >Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 >USA >419.358.5206 > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline." - Prof. Phil Jones - Director, Climatic Research Unit - School of Environmental Sciences - University of East Anglia - Norwich, UK - To: Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley, Malcolm Hughes From rdhaskell at juno.com Thu Apr 8 08:39:22 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:39:22 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New engine cart Message-ID: <20100408.083924.1000.40157@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> Thanks Tom. The stickers are masking tape with vital measurements of the wheels on them. They listed the width of each hub from center and the width of the rim. The castings were not even close to being the same size. Had to really pay attention to what I was doing. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 07:29:35 EDT Germoamer at aol.com writes: > Hey Ron, > > That is a lot of nice work there. What are all the stickers on the > > wheels, store bar codes? > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com ____________________________________________________________ "Your Government Bailout" USA Gov gave billions to stimulate economy & relieve DEBT. Claim yours http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bbdf8c1a40b917d7e8st02vuc From winkandginger at aol.com Thu Apr 8 09:23:12 2010 From: winkandginger at aol.com (winkandginger at aol.com) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 12:23:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] New engine cart In-Reply-To: References: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com><8CCA53329911BB2-62C-1CB0@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CCA54EEB29CC42-2348-4EDF@webmail-d037.sysops.aol.com> Hey Rob, We intend to "come off the hills" to attend Tulare if we can get someone to watch the animals. ......wonder if all that iron in Tulare Kalifornia will effect the balance? Wink -----Original Message----- From: Rob Skinner To: The SEL email discussion list Sent: Thu, Apr 8, 2010 7:21 am Subject: Re: [SEL] New engine cart On Apr 8, 2010, at 6:04 AM, WinkAndGinger at aol.com wrote: > Another example of your quality workmanship! > > Wink Hey, Wink. Will you and your bride be coming down from the hills next week? Dick & Maureen will be making breakfast, if you get up early enough. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From r7734g at hotmail.com Thu Apr 8 09:31:28 2010 From: r7734g at hotmail.com (Ron Gerlach) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:31:28 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New engine cart In-Reply-To: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Ron Excellent design and implementation! RonG > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:49:55 -0700 > From: rdhaskell at juno.com > Subject: [SEL] New engine cart > > Hi all. > The cart for the 12 hp headless Witte is finished except for sandblasting > and painting. This one has automobile type steering that was inspired by > a picture posted on oldengine. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/WitteCart# > > You may have to add the # symbol on the end. > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > ____________________________________________________________ > 2550% Penny Stock Gains? > Our last pick exploded 2550% - Join our newsletter for free picks! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bbd5295c65e316d5fast02vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From George_Best at adp.com Thu Apr 8 09:43:04 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 11:43:04 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Tulare show In-Reply-To: <8CCA54EEB29CC42-2348-4EDF@webmail-d037.sysops.aol.com> References: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com><8CCA53329911BB2-62C-1CB0@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> <8CCA54EEB29CC42-2348-4EDF@webmail-d037.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39F09D8F@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Next week at this time I'll be on the road on my way to Tulare. Its been a few years since I last attended the Tulare show, so I'm really looking forward to being there again. Will probably stop Thursday afternoon and Friday morning to visit a few collectors on the way down and breakup the 800+ miles each way trip. I know several members of the SEL list regularly attend this show and expect to see them there. Just wondering if there are any first timers going to Tulare? I'll be set up with Branch 27 as I have in the past and am planning on bringing my 3hp Gade. Mostly because it fits in the back of the pickup and I won't need to pull a trailer that far although I've done it many times. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From rotigel at me.com Thu Apr 8 11:13:29 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 14:13:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] New engine cart In-Reply-To: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Very, VEry, VERy, VERY nice! Dave On Apr 7, 2010, at 11:49 PM, rdhaskell wrote: > Hi all. > The cart for the 12 hp headless Witte is finished except for > sandblasting > and painting. This one has automobile type steering that was > inspired by > a picture posted on oldengine. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/WitteCart# > > You may have to add the # symbol on the end. > > Ron Haskell From rdhaskell at juno.com Thu Apr 8 13:40:26 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:40:26 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New engine cart Message-ID: <20100408.134036.5900.395082@mailpop02.vgs.untd.com> Thanks Dave. The different front axle was a challenge. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 14:13:29 -0400 David Rotigel writes: > Very, VEry, VERy, VERY nice! > Dave ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bbe3f5517d4516b2a8st04vuc From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Apr 8 17:39:40 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:39:40 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New engine cart In-Reply-To: <8CCA54EEB29CC42-2348-4EDF@webmail-d037.sysops.aol.com> References: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com><8CCA53329911BB2-62C-1CB0@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> <8CCA54EEB29CC42-2348-4EDF@webmail-d037.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <81B1B2C6-4C56-4587-8C93-2784F6E219D0@rustyiron.com> On Apr 8, 2010, at 9:23 AM, WinkAndGinger at aol.com wrote: > > ......wonder if all that iron in Tulare Kalifornia will effect the > balance? > Most of the people attending Tulare are VERY unbalanced. From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Apr 9 06:13:47 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 09:13:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spencer Yost In-Reply-To: <20100408145536.16280938F@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20100408141032.396F4938F@smtp.wcoil.com> <20100408145536.16280938F@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <20100409131341.F0DE392C9@smtp.wcoil.com> Does anyone know whats up with Spencer? Is he on vacation or off to a show? Sent him an email through Atis to the yostsw at atis.net address a couple days ago and no work back yet. Thanks, Mark Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From George_Best at adp.com Fri Apr 9 08:19:32 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:19:32 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Spencer Yost In-Reply-To: <20100409131341.F0DE392C9@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20100408141032.396F4938F@smtp.wcoil.com> <20100408145536.16280938F@smtp.wcoil.com> <20100409131341.F0DE392C9@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39F56126@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> I don't know as Spencer doesn't answer my emails, but I think he is too busy with his work and possibly other family issues. In any case he doesn't seem to have any time for this hobby and is no longer actively involved with this list or even the forums he set up and doesn't support. I was a strong supporter of the forums he set up until his latest changes around Christmas. He has only addressed one problem the forum had and then disappeared again. Not very good at supporting his forums. I've basically given up on him. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark Shulaw Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:14 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Spencer Yost Does anyone know whats up with Spencer? Is he on vacation or off to a show? Sent him an email through Atis to the yostsw at atis.net address a couple days ago and no work back yet. Thanks, Mark Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From curt at rustyiron.com Fri Apr 9 08:57:15 2010 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:57:15 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4a2a117890454ca806267f0d27ea721b.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Rick, Can't really tell from the link which part you are trying to make, but I've had very good success laser cutting spring steel. This will work up to about 1/4" thick on most laser machines. Here is a thinner part I has cut from blued spring steel. Wire EDM also works great, you just can't do holes like you can w/ laser. Curt Holland > Need some help gang. How does one cut/form flat plate spring steel? We > need one for the dog on the ratchet that advances the bolt of wood on our > shingle mill. > > Pix at; > > http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2794526910039077051PBYOMo > > "Thanks for looking" > > RickinMt. > > PS: Thinking about using the flat stock off an ole putty knife ???? > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Apr 9 09:54:41 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:54:41 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spencer Yost In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39F56126@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad .adp.com> References: <20100408141032.396F4938F@smtp.wcoil.com> <20100408145536.16280938F@smtp.wcoil.com> <20100409131341.F0DE392C9@smtp.wcoil.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39F56126@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <20100409165441.E9615920B@smtp.wcoil.com> Hi George, Thanks for the info. I hope the issues he has is not family or health related just job maybe. I take it then that since you didn't mention anyone else you do not know of anyone else to contact to deal with list issues? Thanks, Mark At 11:19 AM 4/9/2010, you wrote: >I don't know as Spencer doesn't answer my emails, but I think he is >too busy with his work and possibly other family issues. In any >case he doesn't seem to have any time for this hobby and is no >longer actively involved with this list or even the forums he set up >and doesn't support. > >I was a strong supporter of the forums he set up until his latest >changes around Christmas. He has only addressed one problem the >forum had and then disappeared again. Not very good at supporting >his forums. I've basically given up on him. > >George > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark Shulaw >Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:14 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: [SEL] Spencer Yost > >Does anyone know whats up with Spencer? Is he on vacation or off to a >show? Sent him an email through Atis to the >yostsw at atis.net address a couple days ago and no work back >yet. Thanks, Mark > > > > > > >Mark Shulaw >454 County Road 33 >Bluffton, OH. 45817 >USA > >Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. >Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. >VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of >the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and >confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended >recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, >you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication >is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in >error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message >and any attachments from your system. > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2800 - Release Date: >04/09/10 06:32:00 Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From christison at coastalnet.com Sun Apr 11 05:51:40 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:51:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Great read. In-Reply-To: <4BC12263.7040007@coastalnet.com> References: <4BC12263.7040007@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: <4BC1C5DC.1010400@coastalnet.com> In case anyone is confused by the page I sent a link to, this is a download page to volume 33 of Cassier's Magazine. It is a .pdf file of about 90mb. Just click on the "download" button to get it. There are some really neat pictures and articles on large power plants especially, and includes examples in the UK, US, and Australia. Take care. Ken Ken Christison wrote: > Here is a great book to download free in google books A lot of great > pictures > and info and history, (up to 1908) Might be a little large download > for dial-up > since it is a little under 90MB in size. > > Just go to: http://books.google.com/books?id=gJQEAAAAYAAJ to download. > > From christison at coastalnet.com Sun Apr 11 05:56:56 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:56:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Great read.- oops! In-Reply-To: <4BC1C5DC.1010400@coastalnet.com> References: <4BC12263.7040007@coastalnet.com> <4BC1C5DC.1010400@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: <4BC1C718.4030203@coastalnet.com> I just noticed the "button" is for reading online. There is a link to download the PDF file just below the button. Sorry for the confusion. Remember, I am almost as old as Dave;-) Ken Ken Christison wrote: > In case anyone is confused by the page I sent a link to, this is a > download page > to volume 33 of Cassier's Magazine. It is a .pdf file of about 90mb. > Just click > on the "download" button to get it. There are some really neat > pictures and > articles on large power plants especially, and includes examples in > the UK, US, > and Australia. > > Take care. > > Ken > > Ken Christison wrote: >> Here is a great book to download free in google books A lot of >> great pictures >> and info and history, (up to 1908) Might be a little large download >> for dial-up >> since it is a little under 90MB in size. >> >> Just go to: http://books.google.com/books?id=gJQEAAAAYAAJ to download. >> >> > > > To UN-subscribe, send a message to: > > stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org > with: > unsubscribe > in the subject of the message. Nothing else, no SIGs, etc. > > From rob at rustyiron.com Sun Apr 11 07:31:42 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:31:42 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Great read. In-Reply-To: <4BC1C5DC.1010400@coastalnet.com> References: <4BC12263.7040007@coastalnet.com> <4BC1C5DC.1010400@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: On Apr 11, 2010, at 5:51 AM, Ken Christison wrote: > In case anyone is confused by the page I sent a link to, this is a > download page > to volume 33 of Cassier's Magazine. It is a .pdf file of about > 90mb. Just click > on the "download" button to get it. There are some really neat > pictures and > articles on large power plants especially, and includes examples in > the UK, US, > and Australia. That's really cool, Ken. I have a modest collection of Cassier's magazines, and originals don't come cheaply. It's amazing that Google goes to all the trouble to scan these, and make them available to everyone. When people and governments demonize Google, they're railing against the benefits that we are enjoying right now. On page 74 (74 of the scans, not necessarily page 74 of the magazines) there is an article titled, "The Development of the Large Gas Engine in America." Good stuff... From rotigel at me.com Sun Apr 11 21:12:42 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 00:12:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Great read.- oops! In-Reply-To: <4BC1C718.4030203@coastalnet.com> References: <4BC12263.7040007@coastalnet.com> <4BC1C5DC.1010400@coastalnet.com> <4BC1C718.4030203@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: <483BE7C3-0CE0-4F7A-B72C-F1A71E2EBC9D@me.com> That's a bunch of CRAP Ken, and you know it. You don't look a day over 86! Dave On Apr 11, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Ken Christison wrote: > > Sorry for the confusion. Remember, I am almost as old as Dave;-) > > Ken From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Mon Apr 12 15:21:39 2010 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:21:39 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Sad News References: <004d01cada3e$3ab10e30$b0132a90$@co.uk> Message-ID: WOW, Steve what upsetting news. I will be praying for Arnie and his family and asking the Good Lord to be with Arnie and help him get through this.....I am reminded of a verse on the Bible that says "Life is but a vapor, here today and gone tomorrow". How true it is. Lately even my mortality has been weighing on my mind and I feel a need more than ever to be sure that each day I try and brighten someone's world with a kind deed, kind word, or kind thought. With that being said I want to tell all of my engine friends how much I appreciate each of you and that you will never know what an impact you have had on my life. Arnie I am so sorry my friend, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Kinney To: Steve Royster Cc: bert juffer ; craig morrison ; Curt Holland ; george best ; harry terpsrtra ; Holland Missy ; Joe Prindle ; johnny nuttin ; larry anger ; Luke Tonneberger ; Nev Beaty ; paulmaples at sbcglobal.net ; Steve Barr Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:28 AM Subject: Re: Sad News Steve Shocking news, how tragic. Please let us know if you hear more about the arrangements. Thanks for letting us know. Keith On Apr 12, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Steve Royster wrote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: helen at insulate.co.uk To: rotigel at me.com; swebre at hotmail.com; melwebre at hotmail.com; rob at rustyiron.com; kgarcia at rustyiron.com; randmingold at hotkey.net.au; ozengine at optusnet.com.au;mr at carolina.rr.com; steve_royster at hotmail.com; oldironnut at windstream.net; sltucker4 at windstream.net Subject: Sad News Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:46:53 +0100 Folks, Please pass this news on as you think fit ? I?m sure I?ve left some people out. I just heard that Arnie?s wife, Nancy, passed away last night. It was very sudden, and very unexpected ? a complication from her long term illness, probably. I rang Arnie, and he?s in shock, understandably. He?s not had time to make any arrangements yet, but I thought his closest friends should know. Dolly -- Helen French helen at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.dollyfrench.com/ http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm http://freespace.virgin.net/french.bros/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Learn more. Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From gastzt at aol.com Mon Apr 12 16:42:10 2010 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:42:10 EDT Subject: [SEL] Sad News Message-ID: <23e66.1cedf3bd.38f509d2@aol.com> OH MY GOSH---- read the sad news---thanks Paul! By the way----are you any kin to Hugh Maples----Seguin, Texas? Electrician friend of mine----! Thanks again Stan Zettner (Old Stovers, Pleasanton, Texas) I know I have not met a lot of you guys, but feel like I knew ya'll forever! From Germoamer at aol.com Mon Apr 12 17:03:09 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:03:09 EDT Subject: [SEL] Sad News Message-ID: <5eff4.5868d483.38f50ebd@aol.com> I am very sorry to hear of the sudden passing of Arnie's wife. May God be with him in these times. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. _germoamer at AOL.com_ (mailto:germoamer at AOL.com) On a different note, I now seem to be missing the initial emails about some posts, the latest being this one. I did not get Ken Christison's latest one either. From rex002 at centurytel.net Mon Apr 12 17:28:20 2010 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:28:20 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Sad News References: <23e66.1cedf3bd.38f509d2@aol.com> Message-ID: <4BB77238FEB34EAC84A666DFD4823FF4@homebase> Very sad news indeed , My thoughts prayers are with Arnie and His family From langer5 at xplornet.ca Mon Apr 12 18:00:53 2010 From: langer5 at xplornet.ca (Larry Anger) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:00:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Sad News References: <5eff4.5868d483.38f50ebd@aol.com> Message-ID: <26B285E8FDEC40BBA6C373FFC9FE1C3A@larryf92159205> Arnie - I'm totally shocked to hear of Nancy's passing. I ask that God give you strength at this time to deal with all the details and for the days and weeks ahead to comfort you when all seems hopeless! Tom - I don't get the initial emails from the list either, only responses from other members. My server must somehow be blocking these emails. I don't get my own emails to the list back either for some reason. Larry Anger 163926 Brownsville Rd. R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario Canada N4G 4G8 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Sad News >I am very sorry to hear of the sudden passing of Arnie's wife. May God be > with him in these times. > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > _germoamer at AOL.com_ (mailto:germoamer at AOL.com) > > On a different note, I now seem to be missing the initial emails about > some > posts, the latest being this one. I did not get Ken Christison's latest > one either. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Mon Apr 12 18:49:31 2010 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:49:31 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Sad News References: <23e66.1cedf3bd.38f509d2@aol.com> Message-ID: <790114621C2E425E90CA41C5A9F5DCE8@PAUL> I don't know of any Hugh Maples but who knows? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Sad News > OH MY GOSH---- read the sad news---thanks Paul! > By the way----are you any kin to Hugh Maples----Seguin, Texas? > Electrician friend of mine----! Thanks again > Stan Zettner > (Old Stovers, Pleasanton, Texas) > I know I have not met a lot of you guys, but feel like I knew ya'll > forever! > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edstoller at earthlink.net Tue Apr 13 06:05:25 2010 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed Stoller) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 09:05:25 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Sad News References: <5eff4.5868d483.38f50ebd@aol.com> Message-ID: <91515400BAC649079C4D6F4A7DA89BC6@edlaptop> Arnie, When my first wife left me to join the communion of saints, it was on Holy Thursday. Her service was on the Monday after the great feast of the Resurrection , the only day of the year when the church will not use funeral prayers. So the priest used the prayers from the vigil of the Resurrection, we call it Pasca for Pass over, some say Easter. I think it was a way of the LORD reassuring me that she was with Him now. I hope you too can look forward to your own special saint. Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT, USA http:/home.earthlink.net/~estoller/ From FRM8198 at aol.com Tue Apr 13 17:39:53 2010 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:39:53 EDT Subject: [SEL] Tulare Show Message-ID: Here is the web site for the 2010 California Antique Farm Equipment Show, April 16 - 18. It will be held in Tulare at the International Agri-Center. _http://campaign.constantcontact.com/render?v=001907B4yRClb82fN8M5HbLRvcXYaA iug28xoZELHcyRyCaRcGgMOR6QzcgY8L31PWPmnkoZKK1e3_0JLSfpZLY0KUNerTN2KIeJ3XZAOy Lt6yW7nsTp729y2-zwbBBxeB-ZxNuvJN487g%3D_ (http://campaign.constantcontact.com/render?v=001907B4yRClb82fN8M5HbLRvcXYaAiug28xoZELHcyRyCaRcGgMOR6QzcgY8L31P WPmnkoZKK1e3_0JLSfpZLY0KUNerTN2KIeJ3XZAOyLt6yW7nsTp729y2-zwbBBxeB-ZxNuvJN487 g=) Francis Maciel 514 E. Taft Street Santa Maria, CA 93454 From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Wed Apr 14 06:26:16 2010 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:26:16 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel In-Reply-To: <4a2a117890454ca806267f0d27ea721b.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> References: <4a2a117890454ca806267f0d27ea721b.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the info, Curt. I don't believe we have any laser cutters around here. Looks like my partner in crime has a handle on it tho. Regards RickinMt. PS: We haven't forgot about the Economy piston that we talked about a few months back. Just waiting for you to get settled in. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Spring Steel > > Rick, > Can't really tell from the link which part you are trying to make, but > I've had very good success laser cutting spring steel. This will work up > to about 1/4" thick on most laser machines. > Here is a thinner part I has cut from blued spring steel. > > Wire EDM also works great, you just can't do holes like you can w/ laser. > Curt Holland > > > > Need some help gang. How does one cut/form flat plate spring steel? We > > need one for the dog on the ratchet that advances the bolt of wood on > > our > > shingle mill. > > > > Pix at; > > > > http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2794526910039077051PBYOMo > > > > "Thanks for looking" > > > > RickinMt. > > > > PS: Thinking about using the flat stock off an ole putty knife ???? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Wed Apr 14 08:04:27 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:04:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Arnie's Wife, Nancy Message-ID: Hi All, I believe that by now most of you know that Arnie's wife, Nancy, passed away very unexpectedly last Sunday in the early morning hours. Arnie's daughters have been with him and the family is doing as well as can be expected. There will be a very informal memorial get- together for Nancy at Mark's Grill (925 Penn Ave.) Pittsburgh, PA from 5-8 on Thursday evening (April 15th.) The family has suggested that any donations in Nancy's name can be sent to either The Plum Food Pantry (81 Sand Dune Drive, Plum PA) or The Plum Library (445 Center-New Texas Rd. Plum Borough, PA 15239) Both of these institutions were very near and dear to Nancy and she spent a lot of time doing volunteer work with them . Arnie's home address is: Arnie Fero 7050 Leechburg Rd. New Kensington, PA 15068 His cell phone # is 412.848.6277 (Don't be surprised if one of his daughter's answers) Dave From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Apr 14 09:31:34 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:31:34 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100414181024.02f353f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi Everyone, I'll be etching a new batch of engine plates within the next 10 days or so. This post is just to ask list members if there is anyone who is waiting for plates and has not heard from me recently (or maybe needs some plates - now would be a good time to tell me). If so then please contact me "Off List" (use the address on this post). As many of you know, I only etch plates when I have a worthwhile batch to make. In the last 18 months or so this seems to have been every 3 to 4 months. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: P.S. There is still one gentleman (no names will be mentioned) on the list who won (and paid for) a plate (or was it a few plates) on the SEL Xmas Charity Auction a few years ago but he has not found the time to send me the details - I have not forgotten but he had better hurry up ! I do not intend to live forever...... :-) Maybe the engines he needed the plates for were "lifted" by those naughty Roysters after they had fed him a harmless "North Carolina Brew" :-) From steve_royster at hotmail.com Wed Apr 14 09:52:31 2010 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:52:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100414181024.02f353f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100414181024.02f353f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: >> Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates > >> P.S. There is still one gentleman > who won (and paid for) a plate (or was it a few plates) on the SEL Xmas > Charity Auction a few years ago but he has not found the time to send me > the details -> Hi Jerrry, Since you already have his money and I have sent my tag order, why not just apply his payment to my Tags until we are even. See how simple it is to do business with a Royster! Steve _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From b2 at chooka.net Wed Apr 14 11:40:03 2010 From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:40:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100414181024.02f353f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100414181024.02f353f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <000901cadc01$e568a940$b039fbc0$@net> Jerry has made several brass plates for me. For those of you who may not have seen the work that Jerry does, I can tell it is truly first class craftsmanship. You'll be proud to have his workmanship to finish out your project. If he ever moves into aluminum plates I'll have an order of those for him. But it sounds like the engine crowd is keeping him busy enough with the brass for now. All the best to ya, Jerry! Bill Brueck Pine Island, MN USA -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 11:32 AM To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates Hi Everyone, I'll be etching a new batch of engine plates within the next 10 days or so. This post is just to ask list members if there is anyone who is waiting for plates and has not heard from me recently (or maybe needs some plates - now would be a good time to tell me). If so then please contact me "Off List" (use the address on this post). As many of you know, I only etch plates when I have a worthwhile batch to make. In the last 18 months or so this seems to have been every 3 to 4 months. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: P.S. There is still one gentleman (no names will be mentioned) on the list who won (and paid for) a plate (or was it a few plates) on the SEL Xmas Charity Auction a few years ago but he has not found the time to send me the details - I have not forgotten but he had better hurry up ! I do not intend to live forever...... :-) Maybe the engines he needed the plates for were "lifted" by those naughty Roysters after they had fed him a harmless "North Carolina Brew" :-) _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Apr 14 18:55:11 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:55:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100414181024.02f353f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <003301cadc3e$b2472310$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Jerry, I need a Lorenz plate! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Evans" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:31 PM Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates > Hi Everyone, > I'll be etching a new batch of engine plates within the next 10 > days or so. > > This post is just to ask list members if there is anyone who is > waiting for plates and has not heard from me recently (or maybe needs some > plates - now would be a good time to tell me). If so then please contact > me > "Off List" (use the address on this post). > > As many of you know, I only etch plates when I have a worthwhile > batch to make. In the last 18 months or so this seems to have been every 3 > to 4 months. > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > P.S. There is still one gentleman (no names will be mentioned) on the list > who won (and paid for) a plate (or was it a few plates) on the SEL Xmas > Charity Auction a few years ago but he has not found the time to send me > the details - I have not forgotten but he had better hurry up ! I do not > intend to live forever...... :-) > Maybe the engines he needed the plates for were "lifted" by those > naughty Roysters after they had fed him a harmless "North Carolina Brew" > :-) > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From cgandree at mchsi.com Thu Apr 15 02:40:55 2010 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 04:40:55 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates In-Reply-To: <003301cadc3e$b2472310$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: <965508087.2485111271324455009.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Mike, Would you like me to take detailed pics of my Lorenz plate, or do you already have some? Curt Andree ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 8:55:11 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass engine plates Jerry, I need a Lorenz plate! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Evans" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:31 PM Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates > Hi Everyone, > I'll be etching a new batch of engine plates within the next 10 > days or so. > > This post is just to ask list members if there is anyone who is > waiting for plates and has not heard from me recently (or maybe needs some > plates - now would be a good time to tell me). If so then please contact > me > "Off List" (use the address on this post). > > As many of you know, I only etch plates when I have a worthwhile > batch to make. In the last 18 months or so this seems to have been every 3 > to 4 months. > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > P.S. There is still one gentleman (no names will be mentioned) on the list > who won (and paid for) a plate (or was it a few plates) on the SEL Xmas > Charity Auction a few years ago but he has not found the time to send me > the details - I have not forgotten but he had better hurry up ! I do not > intend to live forever...... :-) > Maybe the engines he needed the plates for were "lifted" by those > naughty Roysters after they had fed him a harmless "North Carolina Brew" > :-) > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 15 03:43:53 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 06:43:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates References: <965508087.2485111271324455009.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <000901cadc88$8b31f350$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Curt: Thank you for the kind offer, I appreciate your generosity. Fortunately I was able to get some good photos off of the ones we brought over from "the tour." I believe we can go with these but if not I may need you as backup. Thanks for offering! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:40 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass engine plates > Mike, > Would you like me to take detailed pics of my Lorenz plate, or do you > already have some? > Curt Andree > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Royster" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 8:55:11 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass engine plates > > Jerry, I need a Lorenz plate! > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Evans" > To: ; > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:31 PM > Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates > > >> Hi Everyone, >> I'll be etching a new batch of engine plates within the next 10 >> days or so. >> >> This post is just to ask list members if there is anyone who is >> waiting for plates and has not heard from me recently (or maybe needs >> some >> plates - now would be a good time to tell me). If so then please contact >> me >> "Off List" (use the address on this post). >> >> As many of you know, I only etch plates when I have a worthwhile >> batch to make. In the last 18 months or so this seems to have been every >> 3 >> to 4 months. >> >> Keep the revs up (or down) >> Jerry Evans >> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: >> >> >> P.S. There is still one gentleman (no names will be mentioned) on the >> list >> who won (and paid for) a plate (or was it a few plates) on the SEL Xmas >> Charity Auction a few years ago but he has not found the time to send me >> the details - I have not forgotten but he had better hurry up ! I do not >> intend to live forever...... :-) >> Maybe the engines he needed the plates for were "lifted" by those >> naughty Roysters after they had fed him a harmless "North Carolina Brew" >> :-) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 15 08:56:12 2010 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 08:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Gilson Catalog on eBay? Message-ID: <292951.77046.qm@web112607.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Who was asking about the Gilson catalog on eBay a while back? I think that the catalog you want was bought by my buddy Kevin Behnke, up in Wausau, WI. He will make you a copy of the pages you want if you contact him. Contact me off list for his contact details. Joe Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 15 11:09:57 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 13:09:57 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Tips 'n Tricks In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100219090420.00d08448@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: Here is one that I have seen used and it works as well as the "store bought" units. --------------------------------------------------- To test the cracking pressure of Diesel injectors without having to either pay to have an injection service shop do it or buy a "store bought" tester, you can do it the Redneck Way. Get a lever type grease gun (one of the big two-handed ones). Mount it so the "can" faces up. Remove the cartridge cap, cartridge piston and spring. THOROUGHLY clean the gun of grease and dirt. If I've described it right so far, you have the open end of the cartridge cylinder facing up. Remove the hose and zerk fitting. Add a street elbow and a close nipple. To this connect one end of a tee fitting and to the other end connect the adapter pipe to the injector you want to test. Into the center of the tee fitting, screw an appropriate hydraulic pressure gauge. To test an injector, - Loosely couple it to the adapter and fill the cartridge cylinder with good, -clean- Diesel fuel. - Pump the handle of the gun until the air is out of the line. - Tighten the adapter fitting to the injector under test. - Slowly pump the handle, noting the pressure when the injector cracks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's it, Jerry. I know you have the real thing but a lot of folks have to rely on a shop to do this simple test. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jerry Evans > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 02:37 AM > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; > sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Tips 'n Tricks > > > Hi everyone, > I need help again :-) > > On our club website > I have a section > called "Tips 'n Tricks". This is for any good > ideas/ shortcuts/workarounds > and the like. > > This is supposed to be supported by club > members but they seem to > be a pretty useless lot when it comes to > contributing to the web pages and > the only "Tip" up there so far is my "Gib Key Puller" > > > Now, seeing as that these lists are made > up of the greatest engine > people in the world (unashamed flattery/bribery > but true) I'm appealing to > you to members to help me fill the page. From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Apr 15 11:31:08 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:31:08 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100415200804.00cc0148@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 15/04/2010, you wrote: >Message: 2 >Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:52:31 -0400 >From: Steve Royster >Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass engine plates > >> Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates > > > >> P.S. There is still one gentleman > who won (and paid for) a plate (or > was it a few plates) on the SEL Xmas > > Charity Auction a few years ago but he has not found the time to send me > > the details -> > >Hi Jerrry, Since you already have his money and I have sent my tag order, >why not just apply his payment to my Tags until we are even. See how >simple it is to do business with a Royster! Steve Ha Ha Steve, What makes you think his money is enough to pay for your plate ?? :-) Actually his money was also paid to the charity auction - not me. I think I'll just keep the arrangements as they are - see how easy it is to deal with an Evans. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Apr 15 11:36:34 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:36:34 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100415203149.02c48998@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 15/04/2010, you wrote: >Message: 3 >Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:40:03 -0500 >From: "Bill Brueck" >Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass engine plates > > >Jerry has made several brass plates for me. For those of you who may not >have seen the work that Jerry does, I can tell it is truly first class >craftsmanship. You'll be proud to have his workmanship to finish out your >project. > >If he ever moves into aluminum plates I'll have an order of those for him. >But it sounds like the engine crowd is keeping him busy enough with the >brass for now. > >All the best to ya, Jerry! > >Bill Brueck > Pine Island, MN USA Thanks for the nice words Bill, Unfortunately no aluminium plates in the foreseeable future but I have not written them off, if I'm correct you wanted some for a JD. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Apr 15 11:38:23 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:38:23 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100415203655.00d0f308@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 15/04/2010, you wrote: >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:55:11 -0400 >From: "Mike Royster" >Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass engine plates > >Jerry, I need a Lorenz plate! >Mike Mike I have done one design for Lorenz but I do not think it's the same as yours. I'll send a pic "Off List" Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From Germoamer at aol.com Sun Apr 18 13:51:19 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 16:51:19 EDT Subject: [SEL] Prentiss vise Message-ID: <3ba2b.4c116278.38fccac7@aol.com> I took apart, cleaned, and ready to paint and old Prentiss vise, Model 181. Anybody have an idea as to the age? _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/vise.jpg_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/vise.jpg) Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From christison at coastalnet.com Sun Apr 18 14:19:13 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:19:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Prentiss vise In-Reply-To: <3ba2b.4c116278.38fccac7@aol.com> References: <3ba2b.4c116278.38fccac7@aol.com> Message-ID: <4BCB7751.2000802@coastalnet.com> Hi Tom, I have it shown in two of my catalogs, 1920 and 1928 Take care. Ken Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > I took apart, cleaned, and ready to paint and old Prentiss vise, Model > 181. Anybody have an idea as to the age? > > _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/vise.jpg_ > (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/vise.jpg) > > > Thanks, > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > > From frappi at wcoil.com Sun Apr 18 20:16:56 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:16:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Engine in Allen Park Michigan Post Office Message-ID: <20100419031652.AB91D92ED@smtp.wcoil.com> Are there any engine collectors in Allen Park Michigan that can pick up a Briggs from the post office there? A buddy of mine (not on the list) shipped an engine and it got as far as there before some oil staining appeared on the box and the transport was halted by the postal service. He needs someone to get it before they pitch it. Can anyone help? Mark Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 USA 419.358.5206 From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 19 11:02:03 2010 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Bringing Iron Back From Canada Message-ID: <60461.44410.qm@web112609.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi, I am planning on going to an auction in Saskatchewan in July to try to buy a tractor or two. I have not been up that way for a while and am wondering if any of you have had any recent experience bringing big ticket items back from Canada and what those experiences are. Specifically, I am wondering about customs clearing at the boarder and what, if any, duty they charged. Thanks, Joe Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Apr 19 11:31:47 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:31:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Bringing Iron Back From Canada In-Reply-To: <60461.44410.qm@web112609.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <60461.44410.qm@web112609.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100419183142.EA5A29330@smtp.wcoil.com> If it was made in the US and has a name tag on it to prove it easily on the spot you should not have any trouble bringing it back. And if you paid sales tax at the sale don't forget to file for your refund. What kinda tractor you after? Knowing that will help to determine what troubles you may have if any. If its foreign built and they realize that the US border guys might cause some trouble. It really depends on who your border agent is that you get and what they know or realize and if they got laid that night or not. So many variables. Mark At 02:02 PM 4/19/2010, you wrote: >Hi, >I am planning on going to an auction in Saskatchewan in July to try >to buy a tractor or two. I have not been up that way for a while and >am wondering if any of you have had any recent experience bringing >big ticket items back from Canada and what those experiences are. >Specifically, I am wondering about customs clearing at the boarder >and what, if any, duty they charged. >Thanks, >Joe > >Joe Prindle >Baraboo, WI USA >"All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." >Spike Milligan > > Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Apr 21 11:56:03 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:56:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Thanks for All of the Support Message-ID: <6fed638873f2b27d29c0528bdccf3469.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Folks, I want to offer my deepest thanks to all of you who provided my daughters and me with messages of support and sympathy for the loss of my wife Nancy. Between the messages, emails, phone calls, cards, and food packages, it's been nearly overwhelming. It's been a real comfort to know that so many people are thinking of us. It has also been wonderful to read the small stories of how Nancy touched people's lives. Some of these stories I knew, but a great many I didn't know. Her mantra in life has always been "Because Nice Matters." She was a truly amazing woman and I miss her terribly. But with the love and support of Kerry and Courtney and friends, I'm well along the path of establishing a new "normal." Thanks again everyone! Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Apr 21 12:33:56 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:33:56 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100421201114.00d0f858@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi all you Guys and Gals out there, The lists are pretty quiet at the moment so I do not feel too bad about posting the following "Off Topic" question to the "Assembled Knowledge Base" out there (that's all of you). (Delete key is bottom right on most keyboards). I've recently being getting my office in order (this happens every 10 years or so - clean out the ashtrays - tidy the desk - get the filing sorted out - wash the floor etc. I'm sure you know the drill). My whole computer system is powered by a really big old UPS (Interruptible Power Supply). Nothing like these nice modern shoebox size UPS units. This one was bought on an auction about 18 years ago and used to power ICL's complete PABX telephone system. It is big - footprint of 300 x 350 mm and stands 660 mm high. Without looking at all the specs. It is basically a battery charger which charges 4 small motorcycle sized batteries (12 volt each = total 48 volts) and an inverter that takes this 48 volts from the batteries and supplies 220 volts to my computer. (There is a P.C. board inside it which does all of this). My problem at the moment is that the batteries need replacing and the unit is causing a "buzz" on my telephone which can get pretty annoying. The main purpose of a UPS is to be give the user a chance to backup his work and switch the computer off - I still have this, the UPS will still power the computer for at least 15 minutes (previously it was about 45 minutes) in case of a power failure. I had the same problem about 6 or 7 years ago and put new batteries into the UPS and this sorted out the "Buzz" on my phone.(This "buzz" is not only audible on my phone handset, the person on the other end of the call can also hear it). O.K. the above is the explanation so here are my questions: i) Right now, I cannot afford to replace the batteries in the UPS so my first question is: "Will it help if I move the UPS further away?" I could move it up to about 40' to 45' away and run a heavy extension cable to the computer. ii) The UPS supplies the power to my computer as well as my "DSL Router" (to which my telephone and computer is/are also connected). The "DSL Router" could be supplied with (dirty) power from another circuit in my workshop by means of an extension cable. This would be a different "Phase" of my 3 Phase power supply and the "DSL Router" does have a "filter and surge protector" between it and the power source. O.K. that's about all the info I can give you experts right now. (if needs be I could take the UPS apart and find other specs. but maybe I've given you enough info for now :-)) Apologies to list members to whom these questions mean nothing but I do know that there are members out there who can answer them - the lists are quiet at the moment so "what the heck". Thanks guys 'n gals for the help I always receive from these two very special lists. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. P.S. I'm totally STUPID when it comes to electronics - does it show ????? From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Apr 21 12:49:21 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:49:21 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Thanks for All of the Support In-Reply-To: <6fed638873f2b27d29c0528bdccf3469.squirrel@webmail.city-net .com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100421213705.04424138@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Dear Arnie, Although we have never met personally, we have become friends. Jacqui and I were devastated by the news as I'm sure other list members were. It's good to see a post from you again - We wish you only the best and remind you that we do "feel" for you in this terrible time. Words always fail me in cases like this. I know that anything I say cannot heal the hurt you are feeling so please just accept that you are thought of and constantly remembered. Jerry At 08:56 PM 21/04/2010, Arnie Fero wrote: >Folks, I want to offer my deepest thanks to all of you >who provided my daughters and me with messages of support >and sympathy for the loss of my wife Nancy. Between the >messages, emails, phone calls, cards, and food packages, >it's been nearly overwhelming. It's been a real comfort >to know that so many people are thinking of us. It has >also been wonderful to read the small stories of how Nancy >touched people's lives. Some of these stories I knew, >but a great many I didn't know. Her mantra in life has >always been "Because Nice Matters." She was a truly >amazing woman and I miss her terribly. But with the >love and support of Kerry and Courtney and friends, >I'm well along the path of establishing a new "normal." > >Thanks again everyone! > >Arnie > >Arnie Fero >Pittsburgh, PA >fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > >To UN-subscribe, send a message to: > >stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org >with: >unsubscribe >in the subject of the message. Nothing else, no SIGs, etc. From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Apr 21 12:55:49 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:55:49 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100421201114.00d0f858@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100421201114.00d0f858@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry, do you know any lift guys? Alarm guys? IT guys? On systems that matter, batteries get changed out long before they go bad. -- Rob Skinner On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Jerry Evans wrote: > I had the same problem about 6 or 7 years ago and put new > From blcksmth at wcnet.org Wed Apr 21 13:38:34 2010 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:38:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100421201114.00d0f858@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100421201114.00d0f858@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <26196A5EAEE44D7CA7CDC33181D611FC@Eagle> The buzz is probably from the charger having to supply a continuous high current to batteries that never reach a full charge which would normally then reduce the charge current to a small value to keep the batteries charged. I would guess that moving the UPS would not make much difference. Bob Willman The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW Bowling Green, Ohio America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. Abraham Lincoln -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:34 PM To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Hi all you Guys and Gals out there, The lists are pretty quiet at the moment so I do not feel too bad about posting the following "Off Topic" question to the "Assembled Knowledge Base" out there (that's all of you). (Delete key is bottom right on most keyboards). I've recently being getting my office in order (this happens every 10 years or so - clean out the ashtrays - tidy the desk - get the filing sorted out - wash the floor etc. I'm sure you know the drill). My whole computer system is powered by a really big old UPS (Interruptible Power Supply). Nothing like these nice modern shoebox size UPS units. This one was bought on an auction about 18 years ago and used to power ICL's complete PABX telephone system. It is big - footprint of 300 x 350 mm and stands 660 mm high. Without looking at all the specs. It is basically a battery charger which charges 4 small motorcycle sized batteries (12 volt each = total 48 volts) and an inverter that takes this 48 volts from the batteries and supplies 220 volts to my computer. (There is a P.C. board inside it which does all of this). My problem at the moment is that the batteries need replacing and the unit is causing a "buzz" on my telephone which can get pretty annoying. The main purpose of a UPS is to be give the user a chance to backup his work and switch the computer off - I still have this, the UPS will still power the computer for at least 15 minutes (previously it was about 45 minutes) in case of a power failure. I had the same problem about 6 or 7 years ago and put new batteries into the UPS and this sorted out the "Buzz" on my phone.(This "buzz" is not only audible on my phone handset, the person on the other end of the call can also hear it). O.K. the above is the explanation so here are my questions: i) Right now, I cannot afford to replace the batteries in the UPS so my first question is: "Will it help if I move the UPS further away?" I could move it up to about 40' to 45' away and run a heavy extension cable to the computer. ii) The UPS supplies the power to my computer as well as my "DSL Router" (to which my telephone and computer is/are also connected). The "DSL Router" could be supplied with (dirty) power from another circuit in my workshop by means of an extension cable. This would be a different "Phase" of my 3 Phase power supply and the "DSL Router" does have a "filter and surge protector" between it and the power source. O.K. that's about all the info I can give you experts right now. (if needs be I could take the UPS apart and find other specs. but maybe I've given you enough info for now :-)) Apologies to list members to whom these questions mean nothing but I do know that there are members out there who can answer them - the lists are quiet at the moment so "what the heck". Thanks guys 'n gals for the help I always receive from these two very special lists. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. P.S. I'm totally STUPID when it comes to electronics - does it show ????? _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Apr 21 14:30:47 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:30:47 EDT Subject: [SEL] Prentiss Vise update Message-ID: <2f1e4.28dd9f8e.3900c887@aol.com> Here are a couple of pictures of my vise after painting. The pipe jaws are removable and reversible. The face jaws are held on with an oversize 1/4-20 flat head countersunk machine screw. By oversize the thread diameter measures .264, which I think may have equate to a #14-20, a now obsolete thread. One of the screws was broken and so I found a socket head cap screw that had the same head diameter as the original screw. The taper is also unusual in that it is 140 degrees included. Longer screw is the cap screw I machined. Wonder what the 181-191 means on it? _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/vise2.jpg_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/vise2.jpg) _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/vise3.jpg_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/vise3.jpg) _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/vise4.jpg Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com _ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/vise4.jpg) From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Apr 21 16:08:49 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:08:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Prentiss Vise update In-Reply-To: <2f1e4.28dd9f8e.3900c887@aol.com> Message-ID: Tom: I just scrapped an old vise that may have been a Prentiss. I saved the jaws and the one pipe jaw that were on it PLUS the screws. They look a LOT like the ones in your photo. If you want them, all it will cost you is whatever the postage will be. Let me know. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > Germoamer at aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 04:31 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Prentiss Vise update > > > Here are a couple of pictures of my vise after > painting. The pipe jaws > are removable and reversible. The face jaws are > held on with an oversize > 1/4-20 flat head countersunk machine screw. By > oversize the thread diameter > measures .264, which I think may have equate to a > #14-20, a now obsolete > thread. One of the screws was broken and so I > found a socket head cap screw > that had the same head diameter as the original > screw. The taper is also > unusual in that it is 140 degrees included. > Longer screw is the cap screw I > machined. From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Apr 21 16:32:58 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:32:58 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100421201114.00d0f858@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: I agree that moving the UPS most likely won't cure the problem. If the buzz is low pitched (at the power line frequency), the problem could be that the filter capacitors in the unit are losing capacity. If the buzz is high pitched, it could be that something has gone wonky with the charging circuit itself. The batteries should all have between 2.25 and 2.3 volts per cell or 13.5 volts and 13.8 volts per 12 volt battery while charging. That equates to between 54 volts and 55.2 volts for the complete battery pack. A clue as to whether the batteries are really going south is to see if any one or a small number of the cells are using a lot more water than the others. Instead of motorcycle batteries, any lead-acid battery can be used. They might not fit but you could use four of the little 12 volt lead-acid lawnmower batteries. Remember, Jerry - my advice is free and worth every bit you paid for it. :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jerry Evans > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 02:34 PM > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; > sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > ....................snippety, snip........................... > > My problem at the moment is that the > batteries need replacing and > the unit is causing a "buzz" on my telephone > which can get pretty annoying .......................snippety, snip...................... From rotigel at me.com Wed Apr 21 16:17:15 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:17:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <05CC8CD3-A51E-46B1-8A80-A8C4DA0DCB15@me.com> You are ABSOLUTELY WRONG on this Elden! Moving the UPS a goodly distance (Say 15,000-20,000 km) away would surly stop the buzz! Dave PS, Jerry, I'll be sending you a bill for my advice! On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Elden DuRand wrote: > Jerry: > > I agree that moving the UPS most likely won't cure the problem. > > Take care - Elden From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Apr 21 16:41:02 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:41:02 EDT Subject: [SEL] Prentiss Vise update Message-ID: <3432e.45f345dd.3900e70e@aol.com> Elden, Being one who has a hard time parting with apiece of scrap paper, I will be glad to give the stuff a home. Hopefully the screws will match and the vise will have a complete set of original ones. Tom Schmutz 1656 Beckham Rd. Concord, Va. 24538 _germoamer at AOL.com_ (mailto:germoamer at AOL.com) Let me know what the shipping is. Thanks, Tom From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Apr 21 17:45:07 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:45:07 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <05CC8CD3-A51E-46B1-8A80-A8C4DA0DCB15@me.com> Message-ID: Dave: I admit I was wrong in theory (big of me, ain't it?). You bein' a former college professor (philosophy, phrenology, crapology or somethin') I would expect an answer like that. The only problem is that with the size of wiring that would be required for that distance, the cost would most likely be in the multiple zillions of dollars (rand??!!) and getting the right-of-way would also be just a teensy problem. Only you could afford to do it that way - - - - BUT, you're too cheap! :-) Take care - Elden (just a dumb Kaintuck hick) http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand P.S.: Please send the bill to my address on Mars. Once I receive it, I will promptly remit in Martian Zabroznicks. > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of David > Rotigel > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 06:17 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > You are ABSOLUTELY WRONG on this Elden! Moving > the UPS a goodly > distance (Say 15,000-20,000 km) away would surly > stop the buzz! > Dave > PS, Jerry, I'll be sending you a bill for my advice! > > On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Elden DuRand wrote: > > > Jerry: > > > > I agree that moving the UPS most likely won't > cure the problem. From solarrog at pacbell.net Wed Apr 21 16:57:11 2010 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:57:11 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. References: Message-ID: <5F578396FDDD45A0A13EC90B31CAA157@D6R3D961> UNLESS OF COURSE ITS TINNITUS LOL Roger DiRuscio R.E. Realty Experts Broker Associate #615513 Fremont, Ca 94539 510-226-2414 ofc message line Ham radio KG6QKZ (gen) Fremont CERT volunteer "Ardenwood" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > Dave: > > I admit I was wrong in theory (big of me, ain't it?). You bein' a former > college professor (philosophy, phrenology, crapology or somethin') I would > expect an answer like that. > > The only problem is that with the size of wiring that would be required > for that distance, the cost would most likely be in the multiple zillions > of dollars (rand??!!) and getting the right-of-way would also be just a > teensy problem. > > Only you could afford to do it that way - - - - BUT, you're too cheap! > :-) > > Take care - Elden (just a dumb Kaintuck hick) > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > P.S.: Please send the bill to my address on Mars. Once I receive it, I > will promptly remit in Martian Zabroznicks. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of David >> Rotigel >> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 06:17 PM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> >> >> You are ABSOLUTELY WRONG on this Elden! Moving >> the UPS a goodly >> distance (Say 15,000-20,000 km) away would surly >> stop the buzz! >> Dave >> PS, Jerry, I'll be sending you a bill for my advice! >> >> On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Elden DuRand wrote: >> >> > Jerry: >> > >> > I agree that moving the UPS most likely won't >> cure the problem. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Apr 21 18:12:13 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:12:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Prentiss Vise update In-Reply-To: <3432e.45f345dd.3900e70e@aol.com> Message-ID: Tom: I'll try to remember to get the stuff packed up and to the P.O. tomorrow. I'll just throw it into one of those small flat rate boxes. Take care - Elden DuRand edurand at mchsi.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > Germoamer at aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 06:41 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Prentiss Vise update > > > Elden, > > Being one who has a hard time parting with apiece > of scrap paper, I will be > glad to give the stuff a home. Hopefully the > screws will match and the > vise will have a complete set of original ones. > > Tom Schmutz > 1656 Beckham Rd. > Concord, Va. 24538 > _germoamer at AOL.com_ (mailto:germoamer at AOL.com) > > Let me know what the shipping is. > > Thanks, > > Tom From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Apr 21 18:14:04 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:14:04 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <5F578396FDDD45A0A13EC90B31CAA157@D6R3D961> Message-ID: Roger: Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears is actin' up somepin' terrible this evenin'. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Roger > DiRuscio > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 06:57 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > UNLESS OF COURSE ITS TINNITUS > LOL > > Roger DiRuscio R.E. Realty Experts > Broker Associate #615513 > Fremont, Ca 94539 > 510-226-2414 ofc message line > Ham radio KG6QKZ (gen) > Fremont CERT volunteer "Ardenwood" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elden DuRand" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:45 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > Dave: > > > > I admit I was wrong in theory (big of me, ain't > it?). You bein' a former > > college professor (philosophy, phrenology, > crapology or somethin') I would > > expect an answer like that. > > > > The only problem is that with the size of > wiring that would be required > > for that distance, the cost would most likely > be in the multiple zillions > > of dollars (rand??!!) and getting the > right-of-way would also be just a > > teensy problem. > > > > Only you could afford to do it that way - - - - > BUT, you're too cheap! > > :-) From solarrog at pacbell.net Wed Apr 21 17:50:13 2010 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:50:13 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. References: Message-ID: <95F07706F26A411EB1F69AAB65B32F74@D6R3D961> answer the darn phone Roger DiRuscio R.E. Realty Experts Broker Associate #615513 Fremont, Ca 94539 510-226-2414 ofc message line Ham radio KG6QKZ (gen) Fremont CERT volunteer "Ardenwood" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > Roger: > > Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears is actin' up somepin' > terrible this evenin'. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of Roger >> DiRuscio >> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 06:57 PM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> >> >> UNLESS OF COURSE ITS TINNITUS >> LOL >> >> Roger DiRuscio R.E. Realty Experts >> Broker Associate #615513 >> Fremont, Ca 94539 >> 510-226-2414 ofc message line >> Ham radio KG6QKZ (gen) >> Fremont CERT volunteer "Ardenwood" >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Elden DuRand" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:45 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> >> >> > Dave: >> > >> > I admit I was wrong in theory (big of me, ain't >> it?). You bein' a former >> > college professor (philosophy, phrenology, >> crapology or somethin') I would >> > expect an answer like that. >> > >> > The only problem is that with the size of >> wiring that would be required >> > for that distance, the cost would most likely >> be in the multiple zillions >> > of dollars (rand??!!) and getting the >> right-of-way would also be just a >> > teensy problem. >> > >> > Only you could afford to do it that way - - - - >> BUT, you're too cheap! >> > :-) > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jbcast at charter.net Wed Apr 21 18:02:34 2010 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:02:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100421210234.UDVOB.2063754.root@mp08> ---- Elden DuRand wrote: > Roger: > > Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears is actin' up somepin' terrible this evenin'.<< Elden, I have it. I tell my wife I have two problems, hard of hearing and hard of listening. J.B. Castagnos From falcon at telenet.net Wed Apr 21 20:40:54 2010 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:40:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <20100421210234.UDVOB.2063754.root@mp08> References: <20100421210234.UDVOB.2063754.root@mp08> Message-ID: <4BCFC546.4030505@telenet.net> jbcast at charter.net wrote: > ---- Elden DuRand wrote: >> Roger: >> >> Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears is actin' up somepin' terrible this evenin'.<< > > Elden, > I have it. I tell my wife I have two problems, hard of hearing and hard of listening. > J.B. Castagnos I developed this lovely condition about a month ago. Currently in the right ear only. Strange thing is that it comes/goes. Seems worse when I wake up in the morning. Same time it started I also got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and hypertension... Man getting old isn't fun......... -- Steve W. From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Apr 22 04:42:08 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:42:08 EDT Subject: [SEL] Prentiss Vise update Message-ID: <4e930.19e76f1d.39019010@aol.com> In a message dated 4/21/2010 8:26:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, edurand at mchsi.com writes: I'll try to remember to get the stuff packed up and to the P.O. tomorrow. Elden, Thanks and no hurry for it. Tom From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 07:15:06 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:15:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <95F07706F26A411EB1F69AAB65B32F74@D6R3D961> Message-ID: "RINNNNNGGGGGG! Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! You don't say! Who was it? He didn't say!" Now, the question of the day is, where did that scene come from? Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Roger > DiRuscio > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 07:50 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > answer the darn phone > > Roger DiRuscio R.E. Realty Experts > Broker Associate #615513 > Fremont, Ca 94539 > 510-226-2414 ofc message line > Ham radio KG6QKZ (gen) > Fremont CERT volunteer "Ardenwood" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elden DuRand" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 6:14 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > Roger: > > > > Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears > is actin' up somepin' > > terrible this evenin'. From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 07:17:34 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:17:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <4BCFC546.4030505@telenet.net> Message-ID: Steve: I've had my tinnitus since about the time recorded music went from vinyl to CD's. Before, the rumble and surface noise of the records bothered me. Now, I can't hear it 'cause it's drowned out by the high pitched singing (inside my head). Life ain't fair! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Steve W. > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:41 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > ---- Elden DuRand wrote: > >> Roger: > >> > >> Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears > is actin' up somepin' terrible this evenin'.<< > > > > Elden, > > I have it. I tell my wife I have two problems, > hard of hearing and hard of listening. > > J.B. Castagnos > > > I developed this lovely condition about a month > ago. Currently in the > right ear only. Strange thing is that it > comes/goes. Seems worse when I > wake up in the morning. > > Same time it started I also got diagnosed with > type 2 diabetes and > hypertension... > > Man getting old isn't fun......... > > -- > Steve W. From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Thu Apr 22 06:37:49 2010 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:37:49 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Anyone have any luck with this stuff? http://www.quietrelief.com/ RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > Steve: > > I've had my tinnitus since about the time recorded music went from vinyl > to CD's. Before, the rumble and surface noise of the records bothered me. > Now, I can't hear it 'cause it's drowned out by the high pitched singing > (inside my head). > > Life ain't fair! > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of Steve W. > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:41 PM > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > > ---- Elden DuRand wrote: > > >> Roger: > > >> > > >> Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears > > is actin' up somepin' terrible this evenin'.<< > > > > > > Elden, > > > I have it. I tell my wife I have two problems, > > hard of hearing and hard of listening. > > > J.B. Castagnos > > > > > > I developed this lovely condition about a month > > ago. Currently in the > > right ear only. Strange thing is that it > > comes/goes. Seems worse when I > > wake up in the morning. > > > > Same time it started I also got diagnosed with > > type 2 diabetes and > > hypertension... > > > > Man getting old isn't fun......... > > > > -- > > Steve W. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From falcon at telenet.net Thu Apr 22 06:47:21 2010 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:47:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BD05369.4040205@telenet.net> Elden DuRand wrote: > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! You don't say! > > Who was it? > > He didn't say!" > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that scene come from? > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand Sounds like a line from a Bob Hope+Bing Crosby Road Picture. I know I've seen it but not sure if that was where. -- Steve W. (\___/) (='.'=) (")_(") From skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com Thu Apr 22 07:07:59 2010 From: skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com (SKIP CLEVELAND) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:07:59 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. References: Message-ID: <0773AF12AF6148D6BBCA8FE4A41A08F1@YOURDA6F5028CB> Benny Hill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! You don't say! > > Who was it? > > He didn't say!" > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that scene come from? > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of Roger >> DiRuscio >> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 07:50 PM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> >> >> answer the darn phone >> >> Roger DiRuscio R.E. Realty Experts >> Broker Associate #615513 >> Fremont, Ca 94539 >> 510-226-2414 ofc message line >> Ham radio KG6QKZ (gen) >> Fremont CERT volunteer "Ardenwood" >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Elden DuRand" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 6:14 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> >> >> > Roger: >> > >> > Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears >> is actin' up somepin' >> > terrible this evenin'. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jlb94 at juno.com Thu Apr 22 07:16:38 2010 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:16:38 GMT Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Message-ID: <20100422.101638.15364.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com> Hi List. I see that someone has started a thread on Tinnitus. I've had the ringing, crickets, birds, bells, Humming (all at once) for about as long as I can remember. When I was young, I figured everyone had this noise going on in their ears. First you have to understand where it comes from - It's caused by the dying of nerve endings in the ear. Or - If you will - Imagine several nerve endings standing straight up like blades of grass. As you get older, the nerve endings tend to bend over at the top making it harder to hear as the nerve endings dye out and making the Tinnitus louder. Anyone that has it knows that it is louder than anything else. If you are running a grinder, the Tinnitus will be heard over the sound of the grinder - or - If you are listening to music, it will be louder than the music - or any other source of noise or sound. Someone gave me a brochure on this "Quietus". I would be willing to try it but I am not willing to spend $99.95 + $9.95 S&H for something that (probably) doesn't work. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Be kinder than necessary - - - (_o_) everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Richard Strobel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:37:49 -0600 Anyone have any luck with this stuff? http://www.quietrelief.com/ RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > Steve: > > I've had my tinnitus since about the time recorded music went from vinyl > to CD's. Before, the rumble and surface noise of the records bothered me. > Now, I can't hear it 'cause it's drowned out by the high pitched singing > (inside my head). > > Life ain't fair! > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of Steve W. > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:41 PM > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > > ---- Elden DuRand wrote: > > >> Roger: > > >> > > >> Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears > > is actin' up somepin' terrible this evenin'.<< > > > > > > Elden, > > > I have it. I tell my wife I have two problems, > > hard of hearing and hard of listening. > > > J.B. Castagnos > > > > > > I developed this lovely condition about a month > > ago. Currently in the > > right ear only. Strange thing is that it > > comes/goes. Seems worse when I > > wake up in the morning. > > > > Same time it started I also got diagnosed with > > type 2 diabetes and > > hypertension... > > > > Man getting old isn't fun......... > > > > -- > > Steve W. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bd05abc6b4e89a328st06vuc From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 08:23:04 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:23:04 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <0773AF12AF6148D6BBCA8FE4A41A08F1@YOURDA6F5028CB> Message-ID: Steve and Skip: Wrong so far. About the vintage of Hope/Crosby but lots too early for Benny Hill. Any more guesses? I could give hints but that would be too easy. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of SKIP > CLEVELAND > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 09:08 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > Benny Hill > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elden DuRand" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:15 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > You don't say! > > > > Who was it? > > > > He didn't say!" > > > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that > scene come from? From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 08:26:20 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:26:20 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Rick: I haven't tried it but just could be convinced to do so if someone else gives it a shot and survives. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Richard > Strobel > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 08:38 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > Anyone have any luck with this stuff? > > http://www.quietrelief.com/ > > RickinMt. From skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com Thu Apr 22 09:11:30 2010 From: skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com (SKIP CLEVELAND) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:11:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. References: Message-ID: <320366298CD84E909BBD7716DB8593B4@YOURDA6F5028CB> I remember it too but , I was able to Google it and the link says Benny Hill and a mate used it. It ain't Abbot and Costello http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/34/messages/214.html > Skip Steve and Skip: > > Wrong so far. About the vintage of Hope/Crosby but lots too early for Benny Hill. > > Any more guesses? > > I could give hints but that would be too easy. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of SKIP >> CLEVELAND >> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 09:08 AM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> >> >> Benny Hill >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Elden DuRand" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> >> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:15 AM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> >> >> > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! >> > >> > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! >> You don't say! >> > >> > Who was it? >> > >> > He didn't say!" >> > >> > Now, the question of the day is, where did that >> scene come from? > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Apr 22 09:20:56 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:20:56 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <20100422.101638.15364.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100422.101638.15364.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: On Apr 22, 2010, at 7:16 AM, jlb94 at juno.com wrote: > Hi List. > I see that someone has started a thread on Tinnitus. Joe, I don't know if tinnitius is genetic or an effect of environmental conditions. Perhaps it's both. But here's something to think about. Many enginemen have youngins around when we run engines, run machine tools, bust a cap in the groundhogs, etc. We're doing them harm if we do so without supplying them with proper hearing protection. This is 2010, and we're a lot smarter than we were 50 years ago. Many of the maladies that we suffer today could have been prevented. Don't doom your kids to a life of ringing in their ears. Rob From bigtime64 at hotmail.com Thu Apr 22 10:28:02 2010 From: bigtime64 at hotmail.com (Ed Herreid) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:28:02 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: <0773AF12AF6148D6BBCA8FE4A41A08F1@YOURDA6F5028CB>, Message-ID: I am pretty sure that would be Three Stooges. Ed Herreid > From: edurand at mchsi.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:23:04 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > Steve and Skip: > > Wrong so far. About the vintage of Hope/Crosby but lots too early for Benny Hill. > > Any more guesses? > > I could give hints but that would be too easy. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of SKIP > > CLEVELAND > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 09:08 AM > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > Benny Hill > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Elden DuRand" > > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:15 AM > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > > > > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > > You don't say! > > > > > > Who was it? > > > > > > He didn't say!" > > > > > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that > > scene come from? > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From gop4evr at lsol.net Thu Apr 22 10:47:31 2010 From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:47:31 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: <0773AF12AF6148D6BBCA8FE4A41A08F1@YOURDA6F5028CB>, Message-ID: <4BD08BB3.3050702@lsol.net> That's a winner, but I can't say exactly which movie. I do have the Larry, Moe, & Curly (and Shemp) DVD collection on the shelf. Don't make me dust it off. ;-) Nels Johnsrud Manitowoc WI 3hp Herc Also a shed full of David Bradley walk-behinds (but that's another subject) Ed Herreid wrote: > > > I am pretty sure that would be Three Stooges. > > > > Ed Herreid > > > > >> From: edurand at mchsi.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:23:04 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> >> Steve and Skip: >> >> Wrong so far. About the vintage of Hope/Crosby but lots too early for Benny Hill. >> >> Any more guesses? >> >> I could give hints but that would be too easy. >> >> Take care - Elden >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >>> Behalf Of SKIP >>> CLEVELAND >>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 09:08 AM >>> To: The SEL email discussion list >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >>> >>> >>> Benny Hill >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Elden DuRand" >>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:15 AM >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >>> >>> >>> >>>> "RINNNNNGGGGGG! >>>> >>>> Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! >>>> >>> You don't say! >>> >>>> Who was it? >>>> >>>> He didn't say!" >>>> >>>> Now, the question of the day is, where did that >>>> >>> scene come from? >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From kosh at ncweb.com Thu Apr 22 10:47:47 2010 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:47:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: <0773AF12AF6148D6BBCA8FE4A41A08F1@YOURDA6F5028CB> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20100422134409.0cd650c0@ncweb.com> Used by Ghoulardi, on Cleveland TV, 1960's. Knock knock! I hear a ka-nocking on my phone. Hello! You don't say! You don't say! YOU DON'T SAY! [hangup] Who was it, Ernie? He didn't say. ...Possibly copied from elsewhere. Dave Merchant At 01:28 PM 4/22/2010, Ed Herreid wrote: > > >I am pretty sure that would be Three Stooges. > > > >Ed Herreid > > > > > From: edurand at mchsi.com > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:23:04 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > Steve and Skip: > > > > Wrong so far. About the vintage of Hope/Crosby but lots too early for > Benny Hill. > > > > Any more guesses? > > > > I could give hints but that would be too easy. > > > > Take care - Elden > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > > Behalf Of SKIP > > > CLEVELAND > > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 09:08 AM > > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > > > > Benny Hill > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Elden DuRand" > > > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:15 AM > > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > > > > > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > > > > > > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > > > You don't say! > > > > > > > > Who was it? > > > > > > > > He didn't say!" > > > > > > > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that > > > scene come from? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >_________________________________________________________________ >Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your >inbox. >http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline." - Prof. Phil Jones - Director, Climatic Research Unit - School of Environmental Sciences - University of East Anglia - Norwich, UK - To: Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley, Malcolm Hughes From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 12:05:10 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:05:10 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <20100422.101638.15364.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Joe: Sorta what I thought! "If it seems too good to be true, it probably is." Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > jlb94 at juno.com > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 09:17 AM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > Hi List. .............snip.................. > Someone gave me a brochure on this "Quietus". I > would be willing to try it but I am not willing > to spend $99.95 + $9.95 S&H for something that > (probably) doesn't work. > Joe "Pip" Betz said that From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 12:07:13 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:07:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <320366298CD84E909BBD7716DB8593B4@YOURDA6F5028CB> Message-ID: Skip: It was about the time of Abbott & Costello (but not them) and, if it was used by Benny Hill, he "borrowed" it from the original artist. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of SKIP > CLEVELAND > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:12 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > I remember it too but , I was able to Google it > and the link says Benny Hill and a mate used it. > It ain't Abbot and Costello > >> > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > >> > > >> > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > >> You don't say! > >> > > >> > Who was it? > >> > > >> > He didn't say!" > >> > > >> > Now, the question of the day is, where did that > >> scene come from? From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 12:08:38 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:08:38 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If I'da knowed I'd'a lived this long, I'da took better care of m'self! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Rob Skinner > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:21 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > On Apr 22, 2010, at 7:16 AM, jlb94 at juno.com wrote: > > > Hi List. > > I see that someone has started a thread on Tinnitus. > > Joe, > I don't know if tinnitius is genetic or an effect > of environmental > conditions. Perhaps it's both. But here's > something to think about. > Many enginemen have youngins around when we run > engines, run machine > tools, bust a cap in the groundhogs, etc. We're > doing them harm if we > do so without supplying them with proper hearing > protection. > > This is 2010, and we're a lot smarter than we > were 50 years ago. Many > of the maladies that we suffer today could have > been prevented. Don't > doom your kids to a life of ringing in their ears. > > Rob From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 12:10:03 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:10:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ed: Sorry. Again, it is in the heyday of The Three Stooges but it weren't them. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Ed Herreid > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:28 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > I am pretty sure that would be Three Stooges. > > > > Ed Herreid ..................snip....................... > > > > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > > > > > > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > > > You don't say! > > > > > > > > Who was it? > > > > > > > > He didn't say!" > > > > > > > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that > > > scene come from? From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 12:11:44 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:11:44 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20100422134409.0cd650c0@ncweb.com> Message-ID: Dave: You are about a decade too late. Am I gonna have to give you ignert Geezers a clue??!! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Dave > Merchant > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:48 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list; > sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > Used by Ghoulardi, on Cleveland TV, 1960's. > > Knock knock! > > I hear a ka-nocking on my phone. > > Hello! > > You don't say! > > You don't say! > > YOU DON'T SAY! > > [hangup] > > Who was it, Ernie? > > He didn't say. > > ...Possibly copied from elsewhere. > > Dave Merchant .......................snip..................... > > > > > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > > > > > > > > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > > > > You don't say! > > > > > > > > > > Who was it? > > > > > > > > > > He didn't say!" > > > > > > > > > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that > > > > scene come from? From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Apr 22 11:10:43 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:10:43 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100422200730.02ae9050@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi All, Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I'll be looking at the problem this weekend. Now that the thread has changed to Tinnitus - I have suffered from it for quite a few years as well. It's worse in the morning and much worse if I have a hangover :-). The buzzing on the phone is not tinnitus !! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 12:14:46 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:14:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <4BD08BB3.3050702@lsol.net> Message-ID: Nels: Now, you've got me questioning what I know about the act. Since The Three Stooges are in the same era as where I heard it (and can reproduce it!), it could have been from them but I don't think so. Do I have to give you guys a clue? Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Nelson > Johnsrud > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:48 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > That's a winner, but I can't say exactly which > movie. I do have the > Larry, Moe, & Curly (and Shemp) DVD collection on > the shelf. Don't make > me dust it off. ;-) > > Nels Johnsrud > Manitowoc WI ...................snip.......................... > >>>> "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > >>>> > >>>> Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > >>>> > >>> You don't say! > >>> > >>>> Who was it? > >>>> > >>>> He didn't say!" > >>>> > >>>> Now, the question of the day is, where did that > >>>> > >>> scene come from? From gop4evr at lsol.net Thu Apr 22 11:21:59 2010 From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:21:59 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BD093C7.6070202@lsol.net> They DID use it though. I got proof! ;-) Elden DuRand wrote: > Ed: > > Sorry. Again, it is in the heyday of The Three Stooges but it weren't them. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of Ed Herreid >> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:28 PM >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> >> >> >> >> >> I am pretty sure that would be Three Stooges. >> >> >> >> Ed Herreid >> > > ..................snip....................... > > >>>>> "RINNNNNGGGGGG! >>>>> >>>>> Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! >>>>> >>>> You don't say! >>>> >>>>> Who was it? >>>>> >>>>> He didn't say!" >>>>> >>>>> Now, the question of the day is, where did that >>>>> >>>> scene come from? >>>> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From bigtime64 at hotmail.com Thu Apr 22 11:41:58 2010 From: bigtime64 at hotmail.com (Ed Herreid) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:41:58 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Guess number two would be "Get Smart" I can picture Don adams talking into his shoe doing that routine. I found a collection of stooges quotes but could not find the one in question. http://www.threestooges.net/quotes.php Lots of good ones though Ed > From: edurand at mchsi.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:10:03 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > Ed: > > Sorry. Again, it is in the heyday of The Three Stooges but it weren't them. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of Ed Herreid > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:28 PM > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am pretty sure that would be Three Stooges. > > > > > > > > Ed Herreid > > ..................snip....................... > > > > > > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > > > > > > > > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > > > > You don't say! > > > > > > > > > > Who was it? > > > > > > > > > > He didn't say!" > > > > > > > > > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that > > > > scene come from? > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From blcksmth at wcnet.org Thu Apr 22 11:54:39 2010 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:54:39 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <20100422.101638.15364.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100422.101638.15364.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <206E5ECCC1F5498EBAC391EEFC06DE44@Eagle> My tinnitus was caused by high powered firearms - especially the 357 magnum without hearing protection. Who knew back then! Bob Willman The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW Bowling Green, Ohio America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. Abraham Lincoln -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of jlb94 at juno.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:17 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Hi List. I see that someone has started a thread on Tinnitus. I've had the ringing, crickets, birds, bells, Humming (all at once) for about as long as I can remember. When I was young, I figured everyone had this noise going on in their ears. First you have to understand where it comes from - It's caused by the dying of nerve endings in the ear. Or - If you will - Imagine several nerve endings standing straight up like blades of grass. As you get older, the nerve endings tend to bend over at the top making it harder to hear as the nerve endings dye out and making the Tinnitus louder. Anyone that has it knows that it is louder than anything else. If you are running a grinder, the Tinnitus will be heard over the sound of the grinder - or - If you are listening to music, it will be louder than the music - or any other source of noise or sound. Someone gave me a brochure on this "Quietus". I would be willing to try it but I am not willing to spend $99.95 + $9.95 S&H for something that (probably) doesn't work. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Be kinder than necessary - - - (_o_) everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Richard Strobel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:37:49 -0600 Anyone have any luck with this stuff? http://www.quietrelief.com/ RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > Steve: > > I've had my tinnitus since about the time recorded music went from vinyl > to CD's. Before, the rumble and surface noise of the records bothered me. > Now, I can't hear it 'cause it's drowned out by the high pitched singing > (inside my head). > > Life ain't fair! > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of Steve W. > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:41 PM > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > > ---- Elden DuRand wrote: > > >> Roger: > > >> > > >> Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears > > is actin' up somepin' terrible this evenin'.<< > > > > > > Elden, > > > I have it. I tell my wife I have two problems, > > hard of hearing and hard of listening. > > > J.B. Castagnos > > > > > > I developed this lovely condition about a month > > ago. Currently in the > > right ear only. Strange thing is that it > > comes/goes. Seems worse when I > > wake up in the morning. > > > > Same time it started I also got diagnosed with > > type 2 diabetes and > > hypertension... > > > > Man getting old isn't fun......... > > > > -- > > Steve W. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bd05abc6b4e89a328st06vuc _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 22 12:23:05 2010 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:23:05 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Message-ID: <312447.83209.qm@smtp102-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Spike Jones and His City Slickers. I believe it was from their version of the song "My old flame". I have the 78 of it on my Wurlitzer 1015. Joe Sent from my U.S. Cellular? Windows? phone. -----Original Message----- From: Steve W. Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:47 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Elden DuRand wrote: > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! You don't say! > > Who was it? > > He didn't say!" > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that scene come from? > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand Sounds like a line from a Bob Hope+Bing Crosby Road Picture. I know I've seen it but not sure if that was where. -- Steve W. (\___/) (='.'=) (")_(") _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Thu Apr 22 13:35:33 2010 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:35:33 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. References: <20100422.101638.15364.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com> <206E5ECCC1F5498EBAC391EEFC06DE44@Eagle> Message-ID: <767BD2CD155743B7AC7CC02FF9B13240@Desktop> Once upon a time I was in the army going through basic. One of the things we did was fire a 30 cal. machine gun. The procedure was to split us into groups of two, one fired the gun the other looked into his eyes to see if he was flinching. This looking into was done by laying prone in the front of the gun with your legs spread out and out of the field of fire. Your head was only about a foot from the muzzle when firing. My ears rang for two weeks after this. We did not wear any hearing protection as that was considered wimpy. I think this is partly the cause of being somewhat deaf today as I have very little high freq hearing left. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes jd.kirkes at verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Willman" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. My tinnitus was caused by high powered firearms - especially the 357 magnum without hearing protection. Who knew back then! Bob Willman The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW Bowling Green, Ohio America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. Abraham Lincoln -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of jlb94 at juno.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:17 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Hi List. I see that someone has started a thread on Tinnitus. I've had the ringing, crickets, birds, bells, Humming (all at once) for about as long as I can remember. When I was young, I figured everyone had this noise going on in their ears. First you have to understand where it comes from - It's caused by the dying of nerve endings in the ear. Or - If you will - Imagine several nerve endings standing straight up like blades of grass. As you get older, the nerve endings tend to bend over at the top making it harder to hear as the nerve endings dye out and making the Tinnitus louder. Anyone that has it knows that it is louder than anything else. If you are running a grinder, the Tinnitus will be heard over the sound of the grinder - or - If you are listening to music, it will be louder than the music - or any other source of noise or sound. Someone gave me a brochure on this "Quietus". I would be willing to try it but I am not willing to spend $99.95 + $9.95 S&H for something that (probably) doesn't work. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Be kinder than necessary - - - (_o_) everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Richard Strobel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:37:49 -0600 Anyone have any luck with this stuff? http://www.quietrelief.com/ RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > Steve: > > I've had my tinnitus since about the time recorded music > went from vinyl > to CD's. Before, the rumble and surface noise of the > records bothered me. > Now, I can't hear it 'cause it's drowned out by the high > pitched singing > (inside my head). > > Life ain't fair! > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of Steve W. > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:41 PM > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > > ---- Elden DuRand wrote: > > >> Roger: > > >> > > >> Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears > > is actin' up somepin' terrible this evenin'.<< > > > > > > Elden, > > > I have it. I tell my wife I have two problems, > > hard of hearing and hard of listening. > > > J.B. Castagnos > > > > > > I developed this lovely condition about a month > > ago. Currently in the > > right ear only. Strange thing is that it > > comes/goes. Seems worse when I > > wake up in the morning. > > > > Same time it started I also got diagnosed with > > type 2 diabetes and > > hypertension... > > > > Man getting old isn't fun......... > > > > -- > > Steve W. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bd05abc6b4e89a328st06vuc _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bigtime64 at hotmail.com Thu Apr 22 13:48:28 2010 From: bigtime64 at hotmail.com (Ed Herreid) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:48:28 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Guess number two would be "Get Smart" I can picture Don adams talking into his shoe doing that routine. I found a collection of stooges quotes but could not find the one in question. http://www.threestooges.net/quotes.php Lots of good ones though Ed > From: edurand at mchsi.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:10:03 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > Ed: > > Sorry. Again, it is in the heyday of The Three Stooges but it weren't them. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of Ed Herreid > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:28 PM > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am pretty sure that would be Three Stooges. > > > > > > > > Ed Herreid > > ..................snip....................... > > > > > > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > > > > > > > > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > > > > You don't say! > > > > > > > > > > Who was it? > > > > > > > > > > He didn't say!" > > > > > > > > > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that > > > > scene come from? > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Learn more. _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Thu Apr 22 13:56:30 2010 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:56:30 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Message-ID: I know exactly where it came from. Uncle Sam's Rifle Club insisted I learn International Morse Code. It was taught roughly, by screaming instructors (yes, literally). They had to be heard over the "cans" - earphones - through which the machine-generated code came. The sound level was not adjustable. It was LOUD. I have been through a couple of audiology examinations. The conclusion is that aids can make the rest of the sounds louder, but when they are louder than the tinnitus, the entirety is more than I can bear. The civilian audiologist told me the aids I needed were $6200, four years ago. I don't remember if that was for one or two; didn't matter - they won't guarantee they will help. My entire MOS (O5G) suffers from hearing loss and tinnitus. Most get a little disability for it, 10% each affliction. I don't; the DVA decided my hearing problems were not service-related. The battery of 8" guns next door to our base near Nha Trang was also unhelpful, but that's just my opinion. The older I get, the more obtrusive the tinnitus becomes. Those around me are even more tired of it than I am. Eh? Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life wrote a blank check made payable to ?The United States of America ? for an amount of ?up to and including my life.? That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.? _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From solarrog at pacbell.net Thu Apr 22 13:56:58 2010 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:56:58 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. References: , Message-ID: <74E9297D67E2401499AE2D34035FD2C4@D6R3D961> Abbott and Costello???????? Roger DiRuscio R.E. Realty Experts Broker Associate #615513 Fremont, Ca 94539 510-226-2414 ofc message line Ham radio KG6QKZ (gen) Fremont CERT volunteer "Ardenwood" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Herreid" To: Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:48 PM Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > Guess number two would be "Get Smart" I can picture Don adams talking > into his shoe doing that routine. > > I found a collection of stooges quotes but could not find the one in > question. > > http://www.threestooges.net/quotes.php > > Lots of good ones though > > Ed > >> From: edurand at mchsi.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:10:03 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> >> Ed: >> >> Sorry. Again, it is in the heyday of The Three Stooges but it weren't >> them. >> >> Take care - Elden >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> > Behalf Of Ed Herreid >> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:28 PM >> > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I am pretty sure that would be Three Stooges. >> > >> > >> > >> > Ed Herreid >> >> ..................snip....................... >> >> > > > > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! >> > > > > >> > > > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! >> > > > You don't say! >> > > > > >> > > > > Who was it? >> > > > > >> > > > > He didn't say!" >> > > > > >> > > > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that >> > > > scene come from? >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your > inbox. Learn more. > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From solarrog at pacbell.net Thu Apr 22 14:12:26 2010 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:12:26 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. References: Message-ID: <5285DF5F82BB4C96A957618E96ABB3EE@D6R3D961> Interesting Bruce, I was a O5H2F aviation morse interceptor, with some other duties also 146th aviation co. Long Thanh north 71-72 I never tied my tinnitus with the morse code. or the noise of the planes. but I guess its possible Roger DiRuscio R.E. Realty Experts Broker Associate #615513 Fremont, Ca 94539 510-226-2414 ofc message line Ham radio KG6QKZ (gen) Fremont CERT volunteer "Ardenwood" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Younger" To: Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. I know exactly where it came from. Uncle Sam's Rifle Club insisted I learn International Morse Code. It was taught roughly, by screaming instructors (yes, literally). They had to be heard over the "cans" - earphones - through which the machine-generated code came. The sound level was not adjustable. It was LOUD. I have been through a couple of audiology examinations. The conclusion is that aids can make the rest of the sounds louder, but when they are louder than the tinnitus, the entirety is more than I can bear. The civilian audiologist told me the aids I needed were $6200, four years ago. I don't remember if that was for one or two; didn't matter - they won't guarantee they will help. My entire MOS (O5G) suffers from hearing loss and tinnitus. Most get a little disability for it, 10% each affliction. I don't; the DVA decided my hearing problems were not service-related. The battery of 8" guns next door to our base near Nha Trang was also unhelpful, but that's just my opinion. The older I get, the more obtrusive the tinnitus becomes. Those around me are even more tired of it than I am. Eh? Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life wrote a blank check made payable to ?The United States of America ? for an amount of ?up to and including my life.? That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.? _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 16:18:45 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:18:45 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <4BD093C7.6070202@lsol.net> Message-ID: Nels: I got proof, too! So there! 'Ya give up yet? Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Nelson > Johnsrud > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 01:22 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > They DID use it though. I got proof! ;-) > > Elden DuRand wrote: > > Ed: > > > > Sorry. Again, it is in the heyday of The Three > Stooges but it weren't them. > > > > Take care - Elden > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > >> Behalf Of Ed Herreid > >> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:28 PM > >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> I am pretty sure that would be Three Stooges. > >> > >> > >> > >> Ed Herreid > >> > > > > ..................snip....................... > > > > > >>>>> "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > >>>>> > >>>>> Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > >>>>> > >>>> You don't say! > >>>> > >>>>> Who was it? > >>>>> > >>>>> He didn't say!" > >>>>> > >>>>> Now, the question of the day is, where did that > >>>>> > >>>> scene come from? From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 16:20:10 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:20:10 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <206E5ECCC1F5498EBAC391EEFC06DE44@Eagle> Message-ID: Bob: Mine was caused by about a zillion shots from, of all things, a .22 target rifle. I fired on an NRA rifle team while in high school. The tinnitus didn't show up for about 20 years. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Bob Willman > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 01:55 PM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > My tinnitus was caused by high powered > firearms - especially the 357 > magnum without hearing protection. Who knew back then! > > > Bob Willman > The Eagle's Anvil > WB8NQW > Bowling Green, Ohio From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 16:24:09 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:24:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <312447.83209.qm@smtp102-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Joe: You are so close, I'll give you the distinction of being the winner. Actually, it was from the same record by Spike Jones And His City Slickers but it wasn't "My Old Flame" (Sung with a Peter Lorey voice). The skit was from "Chloe". I've had the record for decades, the 45 version. I also use another snippet from the record as the intro sound for my webpage. ....... "Nightshade's falling ..... KEEEEERASH!". Geez, that sure wasted bandwidth ....... But it DID bring out some lurkers! :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Joe Prindle > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 02:23 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > Spike Jones and His City Slickers. I believe it > was from their version of the song "My old flame". > I have the 78 of it on my Wurlitzer 1015. > Joe > > Sent from my U.S. Cellular? Windows? phone. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve W. > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:47 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > Elden DuRand wrote: > > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > You don't say! > > > > Who was it? > > > > He didn't say!" > > > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that > scene come from? From falcon at telenet.net Thu Apr 22 15:45:17 2010 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:45:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BD0D17D.90002@telenet.net> Elden DuRand wrote: > Bob: > > Mine was caused by about a zillion shots from, of all things, a .22 > target rifle. I fired on an NRA rifle team while in high school. > The tinnitus didn't show up for about 20 years. > > Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > Not sure what is the problem with mine. Currently it still seems to fade in/out. The doc isn't real concerned about it yet. He is more concerned with how much money he can get from referrals to other doctors for my other problems. Although he is a bit miffed that my blood tests showed normal cholesterol! One less prescription to get paid for! Reading about it online it seems that there really isn't one cause for it and that each type is a little different. Some are nerve related at the ear while others are related to the brain itself. Too much aspirin can cause it as well as most other NSAID drugs. As can a myriad of other conditions like high blood pressure, infections and external things like loud noises, repetitive sounds and many other things. -- Steve W. (\___/) (='.'=) (")_(") From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 22 16:07:44 2010 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 16:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <959162.69781.qm@web112610.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> No, I am runner up. As soon as I posted that reply, I got an offlist email from Ken Christison? saying it was the Spike Jones rendition of "Chloe". Ken said he had been trying to send a reply to the list with a link to a Youtube video of it, but his emails wouldn't go through. So, Ken gets the kudos and I am in good company as a runner up. I was a weird kid, which should come as no surprise to those who really know me, and I used to listen to the radio on Tuesday nights when the Dr. Demento show was on. It was there I first heard Spike Jones. I think I was about 13 when I bought a couple of Spike Jones 78's at the Baraboo show flea market. That got me started in collecting 78's and cylinders and the machines that play them. Just like our old engines, the prices of good phonographs with good original horns, have skyrocketed since the early 80's when I got into the hobby. I wish I would not have passed up all the stuff that a $100 dollar bill would once buy, "saying it would never be worth that". C'est La Vie, Joe Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan --- On Thu, 4/22/10, Elden DuRand wrote: From: Elden DuRand Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 6:24 PM Joe: You are so close, I'll give you the distinction of being the winner. Actually, it was from the same record by Spike Jones And His City Slickers but it wasn't "My Old Flame" (Sung with a Peter Lorey voice). The skit was from "Chloe".? I've had the record for decades, the 45 version.? I also use another snippet from the record as the intro sound for my webpage.? .......? "Nightshade's falling ..... KEEEEERASH!". Geez, that sure wasted bandwidth .......? But it DID bring out some lurkers!? ? :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >? Behalf Of Joe Prindle > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 02:23 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > Spike Jones and His City Slickers. I believe it > was from their version of the song "My old flame". > I have the 78 of it on my Wurlitzer 1015. > Joe > > Sent from my U.S. Cellular? Windows? phone. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve W. > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:47 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > Elden DuRand wrote: > > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > > > Hello? ......? You don't say?? You don't say?!? > You don't say! > > > > Who was it? > > > > He didn't say!" > > > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that > scene come from? _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 17:25:45 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:25:45 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <959162.69781.qm@web112610.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Joe: You and Ken can share the kudos! I, too, was a wierd kid. I liked Spike Jones and later, Stan Freeburg and still have some of their records. A few years ago, I used a piece of Spike's "Dance of The Hours" in an answering machine outgoing message. It was the part with the gunshots (I announced a little musical interlude so they could compose their message). People would call for a legitimate business purpose then, everybody in their offices had to hear what made the caller laugh so much. I had to retire that message after only a few days as the machine constantly filled-up with people calling to hear the message. MOst of what I got was laughs and hang-ups. Sometimes, being inventive has it's shortcomings. Take care - Elden edurand at mchsi.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Joe Prindle > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 06:08 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > No, I am runner up. As soon as I posted that > reply, I got an offlist email from Ken Christison? > saying it was the Spike Jones rendition of > "Chloe". Ken said he had been trying to send a > reply to the list with a link to a Youtube video > of it, but his emails wouldn't go through. So, > Ken gets the kudos and I am in good company as a > runner up. From tchristoff at earthlink.net Thu Apr 22 19:15:16 2010 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:15:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Two shows and transportation Message-ID: <11076672.1271988916665.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi all, for the first time in all the years I have been playing with the rusted iron I have found myself in need so some transportation. I need a clutch pulley picked up at Coolsprings in June and brought to Portland in August where I can retrieve it. It is a small one, fits on a 4 hp Myrick so weight and space should not be a problem. I will galdly pay for any expenses incurred and if requested can provide the payment in the form of liquid if so desired. I will be going to the Coolsprings swap in Oct so I can always pick it up then if nothing should work out. Tim Christoff Basehor, KS. Tim Christoff From gop4evr at lsol.net Thu Apr 22 21:31:03 2010 From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 23:31:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Two shows and transportation In-Reply-To: <11076672.1271988916665.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <11076672.1271988916665.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4BD12287.1090905@lsol.net> At the end of next week I will be taking my truck on a tour of the iron belt. I will pass through Chicago, Toledo, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Harrisburg, and York, then up to Buffalo & Niagara Falls, and return on I-90. I'm willing to alter the route within reason to make a pickup or drop. Is this any help? Nels Johnsrud Manitowoc WI Tim Christoff wrote: > Hi all, for the first time in all the years I have been playing with the rusted iron I have found myself in need so some transportation. I need a clutch pulley picked up at Coolsprings in June and brought to Portland in August where I can retrieve it. It is a small one, fits on a 4 hp Myrick so weight and space should not be a problem. I will galdly pay for any expenses incurred and if requested can provide the payment in the form of liquid if so desired. I will be going to the Coolsprings swap in Oct so I can always pick it up then if nothing should work out. > > Tim Christoff > Basehor, KS. > > Tim Christoff > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 00:48:38 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 08:48:38 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: <959162.69781.qm@web112610.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 23 April 2010 01:25, Elden DuRand wrote: > Joe: > > You and Ken can share the kudos! > > I, too, was a wierd kid. ?I liked Spike Jones and later, Stan Freeburg and still have some of their records. > We have the Stan Freburg LP still, apart from the obvious and popular skits, some of the other stuff is good as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Freberg Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From clemsweller at etczone.com Fri Apr 23 03:43:51 2010 From: clemsweller at etczone.com (Chuck Emsweller) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 06:43:51 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Hillbilly Flywheelers In-Reply-To: <4BD12287.1090905@lsol.net> References: <11076672.1271988916665.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4BD12287.1090905@lsol.net> Message-ID: <157093AD719F465F8068CF62E426247B@ChuckDesktopPC> Headed out the door to the Hillbilly Flywheeler's engine show in Irvine Ky. Loading up the 7 HP waterloo and Dad will be taking his 6 HP fairbanks. Chances of rain all weekend, but we will still be spinning the flywheels! Hope to see some of you there. chuck From edurand at mchsi.com Fri Apr 23 08:01:18 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:01:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Peter: In keeping with the off-topic nature of this thread, I will add that I can brag on having TWO Stan Freeburg albums! One is "A Child's Garden of Freeburg", which is a compendium of some of his spoofs of popular tunes of the day, The other is "Stan Freeburg Proudly Presents The United States of America". This is a musical comedy about the founding of the United States. Irreverent and witty with, among others, songs about Thanksgiving, "Take An Indian To Lunch Today". Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > Listerdiesel > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 02:49 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > On 23 April 2010 01:25, Elden DuRand > wrote: > > Joe: > > > > You and Ken can share the kudos! > > > > I, too, was a wierd kid. ?I liked Spike Jones > and later, Stan Freeburg and still have some of > their records. > > > > We have the Stan Freburg LP still, apart from the > obvious and popular > skits, some of the other stuff is good as well. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Freberg From edurand at mchsi.com Fri Apr 23 08:02:26 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:02:26 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Hillbilly Flywheelers In-Reply-To: <157093AD719F465F8068CF62E426247B@ChuckDesktopPC> Message-ID: Chuck: Have a great time despite the rain! I've wanted to go to that show for several years but, alas, I don't think I'll get the chance. Take care - Elden edurand at mchsi.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Chuck > Emsweller > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 05:44 AM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: [SEL] Hillbilly Flywheelers > > > Headed out the door to the Hillbilly Flywheeler's > engine show in Irvine Ky. > Loading up the 7 HP waterloo and Dad will be > taking his 6 HP fairbanks. > Chances of rain all weekend, but we will still be > spinning the flywheels! > Hope to see some of you there. > > chuck From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Apr 23 10:07:38 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 19:07:38 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100423183824.024db120@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 23/04/2010, you wrote: >Message: 2 >Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:20:56 -0700 >From: Rob Skinner >Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > Hi List. > > I see that someone has started a thread on Tinnitus. > >Joe, >I don't know if tinnitius is genetic or an effect of environmental >conditions. Perhaps it's both. But here's something to think about. >Many enginemen have youngins around when we run engines, run machine >tools, bust a cap in the groundhogs, etc. We're doing them harm if we >do so without supplying them with proper hearing protection. > >This is 2010, and we're a lot smarter than we were 50 years ago. Many >of the maladies that we suffer today could have been prevented. Don't >doom your kids to a life of ringing in their ears. > >Rob Hi Rob, You are so right. I think mine came from unclipping the wall speakers of my HiFi from the wall and standing them on the carpet, facing each other, about 2' apart. My head went between them and Niel Diamond, Roger Whittaker and others were played "VERY LOUD". Various adult beverages completed the experience. There WILL be many people suffering from tinnitus in the future with the high powered music players that are fitted to motor cars today. I think some of these actually produce more power than the cars engine and would propel the car by vibration alone. It's amazing how many times I have heard a car in traffic on the highway and thought that it was the car next to me only to discover that it was 5 or 6 cars behind me!! (and that's with the windows closed). Of course, most of it is "Boom Boom" non-music which makes matters worse. Now, back to the "Topic" which is "Off Topic" :-) Wow, it's good too see that all you guys are still out there. I originally started this "Off Topic" thread with the buzz on my telephone. The lists were so quiet that I was beginning to think that most of you "Yanks" had "gone to that big engine room in the sky" in that cold winter you had just experienced or worse, "unsubscribed" (horrors)!! Good to see you are still all there even if it took an "off Topic" post to get you back :-) Keep well, Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 23 15:56:08 2010 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:56:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Tinnitus Message-ID: "Interesting Bruce, I was a O5H2F aviation morse interceptor, with some other duties also 146th aviation co. Long Thanh north 71-72 I never tied my tinnitus with the morse code. or the noise of the planes. but I guess its possible Roger DiRuscio R.E. Realty Experts" You were a few years behind me, Roger. Maybe "Ditty City" was a more humane place by then; I hope so. My hearing was so poor that I seldom worked my MOS in RVN. I spent most of my time as a crypto facility inspector. It's not that I can't hear normal (non-tinnitus) sounds; I can. It's just darned difficult to separate them from the tinnitus much of the time. I know it's as frustrating for people around me as it is for me, but I refuse to become a "nod and smiler" sort. ASA, Sir! Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From rotigel at me.com Fri Apr 23 19:32:56 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:32:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Two shows and transportation In-Reply-To: <11076672.1271988916665.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <11076672.1271988916665.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <57664540-4049-48B2-B240-40AA61D74567@me.com> Hi Tim, Give us the particulars and tell the seller that Arnie and I will be in the second row at the end near the trees. I will have the 16 HP Galloway and probably the baby Reid! Dave On Apr 22, 2010, at 10:15 PM, Tim Christoff wrote: > Hi all, for the first time in all the years I have been playing with > the rusted iron I have found myself in need so some transportation. > I need a clutch pulley picked up at Coolsprings in June and brought > to Portland in August where I can retrieve it. It is a small one, > fits on a 4 hp Myrick so weight and space should not be a problem. > I will galdly pay for any expenses incurred and if requested can > provide the payment in the form of liquid if so desired. I will be > going to the Coolsprings swap in Oct so I can always pick it up then > if nothing should work out. > > Tim Christoff > Basehor, KS. > > Tim Christoff > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Sat Apr 24 01:18:01 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:18:01 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Travel time to engine shows USA Message-ID: Hi all Google maps says it takes 7 hours 33 minutes from Portland, IN to Mount Pleasant, IA. Is this time very conservative?? What would it take if I hooned along right on the speed limit?? being good and not attracting the men in blue of course. Peter, Oz From plowe at exemail.com.au Sat Apr 24 03:42:57 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:42:57 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Accommodation at Portland Show Message-ID: Hi All Does anyone have a bulk accommodation booking with a spare room close to Portland Indiana for the Portland Show, nights wanted are Fri 27th - Sat 28th August. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines From bdb at mchsi.com Sat Apr 24 07:19:00 2010 From: bdb at mchsi.com (Barry) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:19:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Travel time to engine shows USA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Peter I live 45 miles on the other side of Mount Pleasant and I can make the Portland trip from Ottumwa Ia to Portland in under 8 hours pulling a loaded 18' car trailer and stopping for lunch. Usually the men in blue won't bother you for 5 over unless you are weaving in and out of traffic or driving erratically. I can't guarantee that you won't get stopped but I drive 5 to 10 over and have gotten away with it for years. Barry P.SO. we drive on the right side of the road ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 3:18 AM Subject: [SEL] Travel time to engine shows USA > Hi all > > Google maps says it takes 7 hours 33 minutes from Portland, IN to Mount > Pleasant, IA. Is this time very conservative?? > What would it take if I hooned along right on the speed limit?? being good > and not attracting the men in blue of course. > > Peter, Oz > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From alkamminga at hotmail.com Sat Apr 24 08:27:47 2010 From: alkamminga at hotmail.com (Al Kamminga) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:27:47 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Travel time to engine shows USA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My GPS route indicates the trip from Mt Pleasant to Portland is 421 miles and takes 7 hours 23 minutes using the fastest route. I always use just a bit under the speed limit to calculate the time. With fuel stops, road construction, slow traffic, and potty breaks I can usually make the estimate or beat it by a few minutes. Driving 5 mph over the speed limit might save 20 minutes or so and will usually not attract berries and cherries (red and blue lights). The interstate speed limit is 65 in Illinois, 70 in Indiana and Iowa. All other roads are 55 mph. I have noticed in Indiana the last month they have been stopping many more speeders. I think with the economy being down, this is a way to increase revenue for states and cities that are loosing income tax revenue. Just my opinion. Al in Indiana > From: plowe at exemail.com.au > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:18:01 +1000 > Subject: [SEL] Travel time to engine shows USA > > Hi all > > Google maps says it takes 7 hours 33 minutes from Portland, IN to Mount Pleasant, IA. Is this time very conservative?? > What would it take if I hooned along right on the speed limit?? being good and not attracting the men in blue of course. > > Peter, Oz > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From jerrye at databak.co.za Sat Apr 24 09:54:22 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:54:22 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Modern Briggs & Stratton engine question, Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100424182603.00c87cc0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi All, A friend recently bought a used (but in excellent condition) ride-on mower with a 12 HP Briggs & Stratton I/C engine (vertical shaft). It is approximately 10 to 12 years old and has not been used very much. The Model numbers etc. from the engine (for those who know) are: 291707 400302 91011531. I have often downloaded manuals from the Briggs site without any problem but these numbers just seem to draw a blank ! Does anyone have a manual or a link to one? What happens is that the engine starts easily and runs well but if it is stopped or stalls it is very difficult to start afterwards. A few hours later, when cold, it will start easily again. Can anyone please give me any "pointers" as to where to start looking for the problem? Many thanks in advance for any suggestions. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From edurand at mchsi.com Sat Apr 24 12:31:25 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 14:31:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Modern Briggs & Stratton engine question, In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100424182603.00c87cc0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: I dunno about the manual but I'd suspect the ignition condenser. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jerry Evans > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 11:54 AM > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; > sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Modern Briggs & Stratton engine question From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Apr 24 12:29:52 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:29:52 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Ruston & Hornsby 1ZHR Running Message-ID: After a few years laying dormant, and a fairly busy last 12 months, we had the Ruston running yesterday and today. We are still bringing the whole trolley/generator together, but we are probably 85% there. There is an 18mb video file: On the UK server: http://www.stationary-engine.net/For.../Ruston491.mpg on the US Oldengine site: http://www.oldengine.org/members/die.../Ruston491.mpg or on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXNR6UvyaBY I'll remember to take the digicam with me tomorrow! Video was shot with my Sony still camera. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From marinesurveys at msn.com Sat Apr 24 12:51:05 2010 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 15:51:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Ruston & Hornsby 1ZHR Running In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Peter; Thats awesome, what RPM was it turning, looks like a lot Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:29:52 +0100 > From: listerdiesel at gmail.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > CC: stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Subject: [SEL] Ruston & Hornsby 1ZHR Running > > After a few years laying dormant, and a fairly busy last 12 months, we > had the Ruston running yesterday and today. > > We are still bringing the whole trolley/generator together, but we are > probably 85% there. > > There is an 18mb video file: > > On the UK server: > http://www.stationary-engine.net/For.../Ruston491.mpg > > on the US Oldengine site: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/die.../Ruston491.mpg > > or on Youtube: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXNR6UvyaBY > > I'll remember to take the digicam with me tomorrow! Video was shot > with my Sony still camera. > > Peter > > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Apr 24 13:08:03 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 21:08:03 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Ruston & Hornsby 1ZHR Running In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 24 April 2010 20:51, frank skinner wrote: > > Peter; > > Thats awesome, what RPM was it turning, looks like a lot > > ? ? ? ?Franklin S. Skinner Don't know, to be truthful, I left the rev-counter at home with the video camera! :-(( The engine also has its own mechanicasl rev-counter but it isn't rigged up yet. It is supposed to be 375rpm, but does sound quicker in the video. I'll check it tomorrow. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From plowe at exemail.com.au Sat Apr 24 15:57:56 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 08:57:56 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Travel time to engine shows USA References: Message-ID: Barry Are you coming to the R&V show at Mount Pleasant?? Peter > Hi Peter > > I live 45 miles on the other side of Mount Pleasant and I can make the > Portland trip from Ottumwa Ia to Portland in under 8 hours pulling a > loaded > 18' car trailer and stopping for lunch. Usually the men in blue won't > bother > you for 5 over unless you are weaving in and out of traffic or driving > erratically. I can't guarantee that you won't get stopped but I drive 5 to > 10 over and have gotten away with it for years. > Barry > P.SO. we drive on the right side of the road > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Lowe" > To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" > > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 3:18 AM > Subject: [SEL] Travel time to engine shows USA > > >> Hi all >> >> Google maps says it takes 7 hours 33 minutes from Portland, IN to Mount >> Pleasant, IA. Is this time very conservative?? >> What would it take if I hooned along right on the speed limit?? being >> good >> and not attracting the men in blue of course. >> >> Peter, Oz >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Sun Apr 25 05:30:38 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:30:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2010 Message-ID: <4761C84C5D2041BCB517C56C8D56503D@peterlowe> Hi All My son and I are coming over in August for the Mount Pleasant Show. We are trying to also get there for the Friday and Saturday of Portland before we head on down to Iowa. We are after accommodation for the 27th and 28th August close to Portland if anyone can help. I do not care where I sleep nor does my son if anyone can help out. If not we will come over a few days later. Flight seats with Virgin are filling fast and I do not want to miss out booking for Mount Pleasant Sept 2 to 6. We prefer non smoking, just to be fussy ;-)) Please also spread the word around to all R&V engine owners that we would like you all to come to Mount Pleasant as R&V is the feature engine this year. Also there will be a bus trip back to East Moline, Illinois to the original factory, like the 2003 centenary tour, for those who missed out then. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Apr 25 08:25:21 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:25:21 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Ruston & Hornsby 1ZHR Running In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 24 April 2010 20:51, frank skinner wrote: > > Peter; > > Thats awesome, what RPM was it turning, looks like a lot > > ? ? ? ?Franklin 500rpm, a bit over its recommended speed. Have adjusted it down now. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Apr 26 13:42:29 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:42:29 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Ruston & Hornsby 1ZHR Running In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Peter: I think you Limeys have a very nice saying for that show. Brilliant! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > Listerdiesel > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 02:30 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Cc: Stationary-Engine > Subject: [SEL] Ruston & Hornsby 1ZHR Running From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Apr 26 13:44:50 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 22:44:50 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Interesting exercise/ my B&S question. Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100426200257.02b51df8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi all, This could maybe be marked as "Off Topic" (remember your "delete" key) but it stems from the recent post I made for help on a modern Briggs & Stratton engine and I think that some of you may find it interesting.(This post may or may not be quite long - I'm just starting it! :-) I may sometimes come across as a "skinflint" (which I probably am) but, often posts are made to the effect of "Just replace this or that part". "Just" being the operative word in the above statement.This infers taking a "Few Bucks" out of your pocket at the local dealer and buying the new part. This is NOT usually the case where I come from. You guys in the USA and other "civilised countries" do not realise how lucky you are to have a genuine "free market" economy where prices are determined by the amount of competition in the marketplace. That is not the case in a smaller (shitty??) economy like ours which has very little "competition" in certain areas (I do understand the concept of "supply and demand"). (All this since the "New South Africa" happened). The case in point is Mark's very good suggestion that I install a new "Carby kit". (Note to Mark - I'm not in any way "knocking" your suggestion it was good and I'm going to use your advice - I'm only using it as an example). I phoned the local dealers for a price on the "kit". (the engine is about 10 years old - not obsolete by any means and I had the correct Model number etc.). First dealer "Sorry - nothing on my list - Can you bring in a sample?" (I want to do the job tomorrow - that's why I'm looking for parts today!!!) Second dealer "Sorry our "parts guy" is not in today - please call back on Wednesday (tomorrow is Tuesday, a public holiday, and I want the parts to do it tomorrow.) Third dealer "Our parts guy is out - leave your number and he will call you back - I'm still waiting (8:45 pm). O.K. so I decide to call the "Main Dealer" Briggs & Stratton (South Africa). Spend half an hour finding their telephone number (not listed on B&S.com site). Eventually look in my backups and find it from 2 years ago when I was looking for a Briggs coil for my Maytag conversion. Call them - no problem there - they are very helpful and "Vic" (same guy I spoke to 2 years ago) sure knows his job - gives me all the info and part numbers I need. A pleasure to deal with. So back to the dealers. The only one where I actually got to speak to a human - dealer No. 1. Give him the Part # (which he could not find previously - I had to call Head Office for it). Oh yes, that's on the system, but not in stock - you can have it by Thursday. !!!!!!!!!!! Me: O.K. How much is it ? Him: "Hang on a minute, ill find the price" Him Again (5 minutes later): "It's ZAR 428.00" Me again (after picking myself up from the floor). "O.K. Don't order it, I will get back to you". Now comes the real reason for my post (sorry I took so long to get to the point but that's just me). The price!! Currency conversions are not a good way of determining prices (most of you do not know anything about our currency) but, if you can relate it to some other cost in your country that you are familiar with then it will begin to make some kind of sense. I'm going to compare this with the average cost of a 340ml bottle of good beer and maybe you guys will get an idea of the problems facing me/us when it comes to something as simple as buying a "carb kit". I Googled the part # and came up with the following prices all converted to US$): "Briggs & Stratton.com" = $ 22.95 "Briggs & Stratton (South Africa) = $ 58.33 "Sjmparts.com" = $16.54 (Obviously a "Pirate" part - not B&S OEM). "lawnmowerstuff.com" = $16.75 (Obviously a "Pirate" part - not B&S OEM). "Pressureparts.com" = $16.00 (Obviously a "Pirate" part - not B&S OEM). Then I calculated how many South African beers this "carby kit" would cost me. Here are the results. (These figures based on South African beer and then converted with a currency converter.) USA (B&S Original): = 15.61 beers. Sjmparts (non OEM) = 11.25 beers South Africa (B&S Original): 39.66 beers. Another "Google" brought up these figures. The average South African has to work for an hour and five minutes to earn enough to buy a beer, whereas it takes a US worker only 10 minutes. se: O.K. all for now - just some figures that I thought you guys may find interesting - how big business screws us small guys - maybe it should have gone to "Slick" :-) Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Apr 26 15:22:27 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:22:27 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Interesting exercise/ my B&S question. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100426200257.02b51df8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: Oh, goodie, goodie! Look what we get to look forward to! Can't wait. :-( You have my condolences. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jerry Evans > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 03:45 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; > stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Subject: [SEL] Interesting exercise/ my B&S question. > > > Hi all, > This could maybe be marked as "Off > Topic" (remember your "delete" > key) but it stems from the recent post I made for > help on a modern Briggs & > Stratton engine and I think that some of you may > find it interesting.(This > post may or may not be quite long - I'm just > starting it! :-) > > I may sometimes come across as a > "skinflint" (which I probably am) > but, often posts are made to the effect of "Just > replace this or that part". > > "Just" being the operative word in the > above statement.This infers > taking a "Few Bucks" out of your pocket at the > local dealer and buying the > new part. > > This is NOT usually the case where I > come from. You guys in the > USA and other "civilised countries" do not > realise how lucky you are to > have a genuine "free market" economy where prices > are determined by the > amount of competition in the marketplace. > > That is not the case in a smaller > (shitty??) economy like ours > which has very little "competition" in certain > areas (I do understand the > concept of "supply and demand"). (All this since > the "New South Africa" > happened). > > The case in point is Mark's very good > suggestion that I install a > new "Carby kit". (Note to Mark - I'm not in any > way "knocking" your > suggestion it was good and I'm going to use your > advice - I'm only using it > as an example). > > I phoned the local dealers for a price > on the "kit". (the engine > is about 10 years old - not obsolete by any means > and I had the correct > Model number etc.). > > First dealer "Sorry - nothing on my list - Can > you bring in a sample?" (I > want to do the job tomorrow - that's why I'm > looking for parts today!!!) > > Second dealer "Sorry our "parts guy" is not in > today - please call back on > Wednesday (tomorrow is Tuesday, a public holiday, > and I want the parts to > do it tomorrow.) > > Third dealer "Our parts guy is out - leave your > number and he will call you > back - I'm still waiting (8:45 pm). > > O.K. so I decide to call the "Main > Dealer" Briggs & Stratton > (South Africa). Spend half an hour finding their > telephone number (not > listed on B&S.com site). Eventually look in my > backups and find it from 2 > years ago when I was looking for a Briggs coil > for my Maytag conversion. > > Call them - no problem there - they are > very helpful and "Vic" > (same guy I spoke to 2 years ago) sure knows his > job - gives me all the > info and part numbers I need. A pleasure to deal with. > > So back to the dealers. The only one > where I actually got to speak > to a human - dealer No. 1. > > Give him the Part # (which he could not > find previously - I had to > call Head Office for it). Oh yes, that's on the > system, but not in stock - > you can have it by Thursday. !!!!!!!!!!! > > Me: O.K. How much is it ? > > Him: "Hang on a minute, ill find the price" > > Him Again (5 minutes later): "It's ZAR 428.00" > > Me again (after picking myself up from > the floor). "O.K. Don't > order it, I will get back to you". > > Now comes the real reason for my post > (sorry I took so long to get > to the point but that's just me). The price!! > > Currency conversions are not a good way > of determining prices > (most of you do not know anything about our > currency) but, if you can > relate it to some other cost in your country that > you are familiar with > then it will begin to make some kind of sense. > > I'm going to compare this with the > average cost of a 340ml bottle > of good beer and maybe you guys will get an idea > of the problems facing > me/us when it comes to something as simple as > buying a "carb kit". > > I Googled the part # and came up with > the following prices all > converted to US$): > > "Briggs & Stratton.com" = $ 22.95 > "Briggs & Stratton (South Africa) = $ 58.33 > "Sjmparts.com" = $16.54 (Obviously a "Pirate" > part - not B&S OEM). > "lawnmowerstuff.com" = $16.75 (Obviously a > "Pirate" part - not B&S OEM). > "Pressureparts.com" = $16.00 (Obviously a > "Pirate" part - not B&S OEM). > > Then I calculated how many South African > beers this "carby kit" > would cost me. Here are the results. (These > figures based on South African > beer and then converted with a currency converter.) > > USA (B&S Original): = 15.61 beers. > Sjmparts (non OEM) = 11.25 beers > South Africa (B&S Original): 39.66 beers. > > > Another "Google" brought up these > figures. The average South > African has to work for an hour and five minutes > to earn enough to buy a > beer, whereas it takes a US worker only 10 minutes. > se: > > > > O.K. all for now - just some figures > that I thought you guys may > find interesting - how big business screws us > small guys - maybe it should > have gone to "Slick" :-) > > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From falcon at telenet.net Mon Apr 26 17:08:16 2010 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:08:16 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Interesting exercise/ my B&S question. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100426200257.02b51df8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100426200257.02b51df8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <4BD62AF0.8050201@telenet.net> Jerry Evans wrote: > Hi all, > This could maybe be marked as "Off Topic" (remember your "delete" > key) but it stems from the recent post I made for help on a modern Briggs & > Stratton engine and I think that some of you may find it interesting.(This > post may or may not be quite long - I'm just starting it! :-) > > I may sometimes come across as a "skinflint" (which I probably am) > but, often posts are made to the effect of "Just replace this or that part". > > "Just" being the operative word in the above statement.This infers > taking a "Few Bucks" out of your pocket at the local dealer and buying the > new part. > > This is NOT usually the case where I come from. You guys in the > USA and other "civilised countries" do not realise how lucky you are to > have a genuine "free market" economy where prices are determined by the > amount of competition in the marketplace. > > That is not the case in a smaller (shitty??) economy like ours > which has very little "competition" in certain areas (I do understand the > concept of "supply and demand"). (All this since the "New South Africa" > happened). > > The case in point is Mark's very good suggestion that I install a > new "Carby kit". (Note to Mark - I'm not in any way "knocking" your > suggestion it was good and I'm going to use your advice - I'm only using it > as an example). > > I phoned the local dealers for a price on the "kit". (the engine > is about 10 years old - not obsolete by any means and I had the correct > Model number etc.). > > First dealer "Sorry - nothing on my list - Can you bring in a sample?" (I > want to do the job tomorrow - that's why I'm looking for parts today!!!) > > Second dealer "Sorry our "parts guy" is not in today - please call back on > Wednesday (tomorrow is Tuesday, a public holiday, and I want the parts to > do it tomorrow.) > > Third dealer "Our parts guy is out - leave your number and he will call you > back - I'm still waiting (8:45 pm). > > O.K. so I decide to call the "Main Dealer" Briggs & Stratton > (South Africa). Spend half an hour finding their telephone number (not > listed on B&S.com site). Eventually look in my backups and find it from 2 > years ago when I was looking for a Briggs coil for my Maytag conversion. > > Call them - no problem there - they are very helpful and "Vic" > (same guy I spoke to 2 years ago) sure knows his job - gives me all the > info and part numbers I need. A pleasure to deal with. > > So back to the dealers. The only one where I actually got to speak > to a human - dealer No. 1. > > Give him the Part # (which he could not find previously - I had to > call Head Office for it). Oh yes, that's on the system, but not in stock - > you can have it by Thursday. !!!!!!!!!!! > > Me: O.K. How much is it ? > > Him: "Hang on a minute, ill find the price" > > Him Again (5 minutes later): "It's ZAR 428.00" > > Me again (after picking myself up from the floor). "O.K. Don't > order it, I will get back to you". > > Now comes the real reason for my post (sorry I took so long to get > to the point but that's just me). The price!! > > Currency conversions are not a good way of determining prices > (most of you do not know anything about our currency) but, if you can > relate it to some other cost in your country that you are familiar with > then it will begin to make some kind of sense. > > I'm going to compare this with the average cost of a 340ml bottle > of good beer and maybe you guys will get an idea of the problems facing > me/us when it comes to something as simple as buying a "carb kit". > > I Googled the part # and came up with the following prices all > converted to US$): > > "Briggs & Stratton.com" = $ 22.95 > "Briggs & Stratton (South Africa) = $ 58.33 > "Sjmparts.com" = $16.54 (Obviously a "Pirate" part - not B&S OEM). > "lawnmowerstuff.com" = $16.75 (Obviously a "Pirate" part - not B&S OEM). > "Pressureparts.com" = $16.00 (Obviously a "Pirate" part - not B&S OEM). The parts you call a pirate part are likely Stens parts. They make a LOT of aftermarket parts for just about every small engine out there. Many are as good or better than the factory stuff. Some (pistons and rods come to mind) depend on where they had the part made. > > Then I calculated how many South African beers this "carby kit" > would cost me. Here are the results. (These figures based on South African > beer and then converted with a currency converter.) > > USA (B&S Original): = 15.61 beers. > Sjmparts (non OEM) = 11.25 beers > South Africa (B&S Original): 39.66 beers. > > > Another "Google" brought up these figures. The average South > African has to work for an hour and five minutes to earn enough to buy a > beer, whereas it takes a US worker only 10 minutes. > se: > > > O.K. all for now - just some figures that I thought you guys may > find interesting - how big business screws us small guys - maybe it should > have gone to "Slick" :-) > > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > How much of a problem would it be to have parts shipped to you directly from the US from say another member of the list? -- Steve W. (\___/) (='.'=) (")_(") From rob at rustyiron.com Mon Apr 26 19:54:45 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 19:54:45 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker Message-ID: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> Have you SEEN this engine collector on Facebook? What's up with that guy, anyway? http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=743264506 From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Mon Apr 26 20:14:18 2010 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 23:14:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <17a401cae5b7$b953c050$6401a8c0@PC179134136174> Some lunatic TEA Partier fanatic if you ask me! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "Stationary-Engine ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:54 PM Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker > Have you SEEN this engine collector on Facebook? > What's up with that guy, anyway? > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=743264506 > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon Apr 26 20:16:42 2010 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 23:16:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Looks like a cool dude to me! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:55 PM To: Stationary-Engine ATIS; Oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker Have you SEEN this engine collector on Facebook? What's up with that guy, anyway? http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=743264506 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2820 - Release Date: 04/26/10 06:31:00 From solarrog at pacbell.net Mon Apr 26 20:32:08 2010 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:32:08 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <59EB5FAE02A844999DDDF44880F8B54A@D6R3D961> what's you point? it brings up my page Roger DiRuscio R.E. Realty Experts Broker Associate #615513 Fremont, Ca 94539 510-226-2414 ofc message line Ham radio KG6QKZ (gen) Fremont CERT volunteer "Ardenwood" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "Stationary-Engine ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 7:54 PM Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker > Have you SEEN this engine collector on Facebook? > What's up with that guy, anyway? > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=743264506 > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From gop4evr at lsol.net Mon Apr 26 21:24:55 2010 From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 23:24:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <59EB5FAE02A844999DDDF44880F8B54A@D6R3D961> References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> <59EB5FAE02A844999DDDF44880F8B54A@D6R3D961> Message-ID: <4BD66717.7090809@lsol.net> > what's you point? > it brings up my page > > Doh! ;-) From solarrog at pacbell.net Mon Apr 26 21:42:22 2010 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 21:42:22 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com><59EB5FAE02A844999DDDF44880F8B54A@D6R3D961> <4BD66717.7090809@lsol.net> Message-ID: <566E2AB3EF9E4AEB8834717B8A2838BE@D6R3D961> Doh! ;-) now thats funny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelson Johnsrud" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker > >> what's your point? >> it brings up my page >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue Apr 27 00:46:16 2010 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:46:16 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <87081F2AA18C481C90EDBBB48DEFDE83@morpheus> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "Stationary-Engine ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:54 AM Subject: Facebook Joker > Have you SEEN this engine collector on Facebook? > What's up with that guy, anyway? > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=743264506 Hi Rob, I don't even remember having those two photo's taken but when I see the daft expression on my face I understand why I don't remember. I can tell by the fact of me wearing my Bowler Hat that it was the second Wednesday of a month and I had spent the evening at the "Sons of the Desert" meeting, laughing and drinking to the old movies of Stan and Ollie!! Dave Croft Warrington. http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ullerman/OnslowPark09# From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 27 03:13:09 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 03:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <125614.14151.qm@web111718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Watch it Rob!!! I resemble that remark. Alan in Michigan --- On Mon, 4/26/10, Rob Skinner wrote: From: Rob Skinner Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker To: "Stationary-Engine ATIS" , "Oldengine.org" Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 10:54 PM Have you SEEN this engine collector on Facebook? What's up with that guy, anyway? http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=743264506 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Apr 27 06:04:10 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:04:10 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year Message-ID: Hi All Is there a LIST dinner at the Back40 Decatur Saturday night during the Portland show this year. Need to know ASAP as there are plenty of rooms still in Decatur, one is next door to Back40. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines From rotigel at me.com Tue Apr 27 07:15:23 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:15:23 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Apparently you need to sign up on Facebook in order to view this page. Since I don't have the time to tell the world every time I fart I guess I'll pass on this one! Dave On Apr 26, 2010, at 10:54 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > Have you SEEN this engine collector on Facebook? > What's up with that guy, anyway? > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=743264506 From b2 at chooka.net Tue Apr 27 07:50:49 2010 From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:50:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <000301cae619$0681a110$1384e330$@net> Clever, Rob. You had me wondering for a bit there... Bill Brueck Pine Island, MN USA -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:55 PM To: Stationary-Engine ATIS; Oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker Have you SEEN this engine collector on Facebook? What's up with that guy, anyway? http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=743264506 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Apr 27 09:10:54 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:10:54 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You can tell us, Dave. We care. Also, we want to be forewarned so we can get outta the vicinity. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of David > Rotigel > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 09:15 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker > > > Apparently you need to sign up on Facebook in > order to view this page. > Since I don't have the time to tell the world > every time I fart I > guess I'll pass on this one! > Dave From rob at rustyiron.com Tue Apr 27 08:38:02 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:38:02 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <000301cae619$0681a110$1384e330$@net> References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> <000301cae619$0681a110$1384e330$@net> Message-ID: On Apr 27, 2010, at 7:50 AM, Bill Brueck wrote: > Clever, Rob. You had me wondering for a bit there... Heh, heh, heh. Someone got me good, too. Just thought it was clever enough to pass on. From George_Best at adp.com Tue Apr 27 08:52:46 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:52:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> <000301cae619$0681a110$1384e330$@net> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3A6B7837@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Maybe a facebook user could tell us non-facebook users what you're seeing. Like Dave, I have no interest in signing up for Facebook. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:38 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker On Apr 27, 2010, at 7:50 AM, Bill Brueck wrote: > Clever, Rob. You had me wondering for a bit there... Heh, heh, heh. Someone got me good, too. Just thought it was clever enough to pass on. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From rob at rustyiron.com Tue Apr 27 09:48:39 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:48:39 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3A6B7837@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> <000301cae619$0681a110$1384e330$@net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3A6B7837@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <80D6A231-1590-45C5-ACA3-D9DEAB2B7603@rustyiron.com> On Apr 27, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Best, George wrote: > Maybe a facebook user could tell us non-facebook users what you're > seeing. > > Like Dave, I have no interest in signing up for Facebook. Nah, you wouldn't get it, George. It's an inside joker sort of thing. You kinda had to be there. :-) Rob From gop4evr at lsol.net Tue Apr 27 10:42:24 2010 From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 12:42:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3A6B7837@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> <000301cae619$0681a110$1384e330$@net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3A6B7837@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <4BD72200.8040409@lsol.net> > Maybe a facebook user could tell us non-facebook users what you're seeing. > > Like Dave, I have no interest in signing up for Facebook. Think of it as a web-based mirror. Very creepy . . . . . Nels Johnsrud Manitowoc WI From rotigel at me.com Tue Apr 27 13:24:22 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:24:22 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3A6B7837@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> <000301cae619$0681a110$1384e330$@net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3A6B7837@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: Hi George, I think some engine collector in KA farted! Dave On Apr 27, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Best, George wrote: > Maybe a facebook user could tell us non-facebook users what you're > seeing. > > Like Dave, I have no interest in signing up for Facebook. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > ] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:38 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker > > > On Apr 27, 2010, at 7:50 AM, Bill Brueck wrote: > >> Clever, Rob. You had me wondering for a bit there... > > Heh, heh, heh. Someone got me good, too. Just thought it was clever > enough to pass on. > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of > the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and > confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended > recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, > you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication > is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in > error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message > and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Apr 27 13:49:18 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:49:18 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100427223859.00cd71b0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 27/04/2010, you wrote: >Message: 14 >Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:15:23 -0400 >From: David Rotigel >Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker >To: The SEL email discussion list > >Apparently you need to sign up on Facebook in order to view this page. >Since I don't have the time to tell the world every time I fart I >guess I'll pass on this one! > Dave Hi Dave, My sentiments exactly and I'm nowhere near as old as you!! Is all this modern technology passing me by?!! I actually did "sign up" (with a disposable addy) to see what this post was all about but never managed to get to the link. While there I did a little searching - quite amazing how many list members names I found!! Oh well!! I reckon I'll just stay with SEL and Oldengine. Great people and all the friends I need. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: P.S. Does this qualify me as a dinosaur ? From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Apr 27 14:16:43 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:16:43 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year References: <20100427084051.ym20nn6c0ccw4484@100megs28.com> Message-ID: <2719426FEB134BBF90462EE8B93E7140@peterlowe> OK, bummer, we are gettng there Friday Saturday, might try and change that. I now have a room in Decatur Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines > Peter, > > Last I knew the dinner was on Thursday night. > > They might have changed since its been awhile since I've gone to Portland. > > George > > > Quoting Peter Lowe : > >> Hi All >> Is there a LIST dinner at the Back40 Decatur Saturday night during the >> Portland show this year. >> Need to know ASAP as there are plenty of rooms still in Decatur, one is >> next door to Back40. >> >> Regards >> Peter Lowe >> R&V Engine Registrar >> Australia >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >> Skype name: ozengines >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > > From rotigel at me.com Tue Apr 27 14:40:50 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:40:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Travel time to engine shows USA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Google figures actual driving time. If you plan to stop to urinate you will need to add that to the 7 hours 33 minutes. Dave PS, Anymore Arnie and I ADD about 17.69% to the suggested driving time! On Apr 24, 2010, at 4:18 AM, Peter Lowe wrote: > Hi all > > Google maps says it takes 7 hours 33 minutes from Portland, IN to > Mount Pleasant, IA. Is this time very conservative?? > What would it take if I hooned along right on the speed limit?? > being good and not attracting the men in blue of course. > > Peter, Oz From rotigel at me.com Tue Apr 27 15:11:30 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:11:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7D159C0D-99AC-4078-9191-FA4B9A003511@me.com> The dinner will (once again) be on Thursday. I'll be announcing it soon. Dave On Apr 27, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Peter Lowe wrote: > Hi All > Is there a LIST dinner at the Back40 Decatur Saturday night during > the Portland show this year. > Need to know ASAP as there are plenty of rooms still in Decatur, one > is next door to Back40. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > Skype name: ozengines > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Tue Apr 27 15:38:00 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 08:38:00 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100427223859.00cd71b0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <337F1109DF0D40DD9B1EA489748A3DF0@regpc> Jerry, I just signed up yesterday. I will give it a go and form my own opinions on it. If I find it irksome, I can always drop it. It will be interesting to learn what its about. Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Evans" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:49 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker > At 06:00 PM 27/04/2010, you wrote: >>Message: 14 >>Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:15:23 -0400 >>From: David Rotigel >>Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker >>To: The SEL email discussion list >> >>Apparently you need to sign up on Facebook in order to view this page. >>Since I don't have the time to tell the world every time I fart I >>guess I'll pass on this one! >> Dave > > Hi Dave, > My sentiments exactly and I'm nowhere near as old as you!! Is all > this modern technology passing me by?!! > > I actually did "sign up" (with a disposable addy) to see what this > post was all about but never managed to get to the link. While there I did > a little searching - quite amazing how many list members names I found!! > > Oh well!! I reckon I'll just stay with SEL and Oldengine. Great > people and all the friends I need. > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > P.S. Does this qualify me as a dinosaur ? > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Tue Apr 27 16:10:01 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:10:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <337F1109DF0D40DD9B1EA489748A3DF0@regpc> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100427223859.00cd71b0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <337F1109DF0D40DD9B1EA489748A3DF0@regpc> Message-ID: <4FD6F1C2-A4F3-4BFE-A015-757F217B0D1A@me.com> Hell Reg, You said the same thing about AIDS and THAT didn't work out so well! Dave On Apr 27, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Reg Ingold wrote: > Jerry, I just signed up yesterday. I will give it a go and form my own > opinions on it. If I find it irksome, I can always drop it. > It will be interesting to learn what its about. > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle.NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Evans" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:49 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker > > >> At 06:00 PM 27/04/2010, you wrote: >>> Message: 14 >>> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:15:23 -0400 >>> From: David Rotigel >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker >>> To: The SEL email discussion list >>> >>> Apparently you need to sign up on Facebook in order to view this >>> page. >>> Since I don't have the time to tell the world every time I fart I >>> guess I'll pass on this one! >>> Dave >> >> Hi Dave, >> My sentiments exactly and I'm nowhere near as old as you!! >> Is all >> this modern technology passing me by?!! >> >> I actually did "sign up" (with a disposable addy) to see >> what this >> post was all about but never managed to get to the link. While >> there I did >> a little searching - quite amazing how many list members names I >> found!! >> >> Oh well!! I reckon I'll just stay with SEL and Oldengine. >> Great >> people and all the friends I need. >> >> Keep the revs up (or down) >> Jerry Evans >> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: >> >> >> P.S. Does this qualify me as a dinosaur ? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Tue Apr 27 17:28:01 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:28:01 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100427223859.00cd71b0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><337F1109DF0D40DD9B1EA489748A3DF0@regpc> <4FD6F1C2-A4F3-4BFE-A015-757F217B0D1A@me.com> Message-ID: <808E0943A4AF4029B1A2E8F88BF27662@regpc> Your point? Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker > Hell Reg, You said the same thing about AIDS and THAT didn't work out > so well! > Dave > > On Apr 27, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Reg Ingold wrote: > >> Jerry, I just signed up yesterday. I will give it a go and form my own >> opinions on it. If I find it irksome, I can always drop it. >> It will be interesting to learn what its about. >> Reg & Marg Ingold >> Newcastle.NSW Australia >> randmingold at hotkey.net.au >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jerry Evans" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:49 AM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker >> >> >>> At 06:00 PM 27/04/2010, you wrote: >>>> Message: 14 >>>> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:15:23 -0400 >>>> From: David Rotigel >>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker >>>> To: The SEL email discussion list >>>> >>>> Apparently you need to sign up on Facebook in order to view this >>>> page. >>>> Since I don't have the time to tell the world every time I fart I >>>> guess I'll pass on this one! >>>> Dave >>> >>> Hi Dave, >>> My sentiments exactly and I'm nowhere near as old as you!! >>> Is all >>> this modern technology passing me by?!! >>> >>> I actually did "sign up" (with a disposable addy) to see >>> what this >>> post was all about but never managed to get to the link. While >>> there I did >>> a little searching - quite amazing how many list members names I >>> found!! >>> >>> Oh well!! I reckon I'll just stay with SEL and Oldengine. >>> Great >>> people and all the friends I need. >>> >>> Keep the revs up (or down) >>> Jerry Evans >>> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >>> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: >>> >>> >>> P.S. Does this qualify me as a dinosaur ? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Tue Apr 27 17:39:35 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:39:35 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <808E0943A4AF4029B1A2E8F88BF27662@regpc> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100427223859.00cd71b0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <337F1109DF0D40DD9B1EA489748A3DF0@regpc> <4FD6F1C2-A4F3-4BFE-A015-757F217B0D1A@me.com> <808E0943A4AF4029B1A2E8F88BF27662@regpc> Message-ID: <8B952127-5AB1-432E-AB44-94E880BC585F@me.com> Protect your PRIVATE PARTS at all times! Dave On Apr 27, 2010, at 8:28 PM, Reg Ingold wrote: > Your point? > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle.NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Rotigel" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 9:10 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker > > >> Hell Reg, You said the same thing about AIDS and THAT didn't work out >> so well! >> Dave >> >> On Apr 27, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Reg Ingold wrote: >> >>> Jerry, I just signed up yesterday. I will give it a go and form my >>> own >>> opinions on it. If I find it irksome, I can always drop it. >>> It will be interesting to learn what its about. >>> Reg & Marg Ingold >>> Newcastle.NSW Australia >>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jerry Evans" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:49 AM >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker >>> >>> >>>> At 06:00 PM 27/04/2010, you wrote: >>>>> Message: 14 >>>>> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:15:23 -0400 >>>>> From: David Rotigel >>>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker >>>>> To: The SEL email discussion list >>>> engine.com> >>>>> >>>>> Apparently you need to sign up on Facebook in order to view this >>>>> page. >>>>> Since I don't have the time to tell the world every time I fart I >>>>> guess I'll pass on this one! >>>>> Dave >>>> >>>> Hi Dave, >>>> My sentiments exactly and I'm nowhere near as old as you!! >>>> Is all >>>> this modern technology passing me by?!! >>>> >>>> I actually did "sign up" (with a disposable addy) to see >>>> what this >>>> post was all about but never managed to get to the link. While >>>> there I did >>>> a little searching - quite amazing how many list members names I >>>> found!! >>>> >>>> Oh well!! I reckon I'll just stay with SEL and Oldengine. >>>> Great >>>> people and all the friends I need. >>>> >>>> Keep the revs up (or down) >>>> Jerry Evans >>>> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >>>> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: >>>> >>>> >>>> P.S. Does this qualify me as a dinosaur ? >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Tue Apr 27 17:46:11 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:46:11 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100427223859.00cd71b0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><337F1109DF0D40DD9B1EA489748A3DF0@regpc><4FD6F1C2-A4F3-4BFE-A015-757F217B0D1A@me.com><808E0943A4AF4029B1A2E8F88BF27662@regpc> <8B952127-5AB1-432E-AB44-94E880BC585F@me.com> Message-ID: I dont see the point in protecting the un employed! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker > Protect your PRIVATE PARTS at all times! > Dave > > On Apr 27, 2010, at 8:28 PM, Reg Ingold wrote: > >> Your point? >> Reg & Marg Ingold >> Newcastle.NSW Australia >> randmingold at hotkey.net.au >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Rotigel" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 9:10 AM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker >> >> >>> Hell Reg, You said the same thing about AIDS and THAT didn't work out >>> so well! >>> Dave >>> >>> On Apr 27, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Reg Ingold wrote: >>> >>>> Jerry, I just signed up yesterday. I will give it a go and form my >>>> own >>>> opinions on it. If I find it irksome, I can always drop it. >>>> It will be interesting to learn what its about. >>>> Reg & Marg Ingold >>>> Newcastle.NSW Australia >>>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Jerry Evans" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:49 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker >>>> >>>> >>>>> At 06:00 PM 27/04/2010, you wrote: >>>>>> Message: 14 >>>>>> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:15:23 -0400 >>>>>> From: David Rotigel >>>>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker >>>>>> To: The SEL email discussion list >>>>> engine.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> Apparently you need to sign up on Facebook in order to view this >>>>>> page. >>>>>> Since I don't have the time to tell the world every time I fart I >>>>>> guess I'll pass on this one! >>>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> Hi Dave, >>>>> My sentiments exactly and I'm nowhere near as old as you!! >>>>> Is all >>>>> this modern technology passing me by?!! >>>>> >>>>> I actually did "sign up" (with a disposable addy) to see >>>>> what this >>>>> post was all about but never managed to get to the link. While >>>>> there I did >>>>> a little searching - quite amazing how many list members names I >>>>> found!! >>>>> >>>>> Oh well!! I reckon I'll just stay with SEL and Oldengine. >>>>> Great >>>>> people and all the friends I need. >>>>> >>>>> Keep the revs up (or down) >>>>> Jerry Evans >>>>> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >>>>> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> P.S. Does this qualify me as a dinosaur ? >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SEL mailing list >>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue Apr 27 18:35:55 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 21:35:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0BCC11521BBF4A12BDE750EDC51E406C@laruecounty.courthouse> But Reg here in the US you can draw unemployment for a long time. One guy I chatted with the other day said "I like it better than working". Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY I dont see the point in protecting the un employed! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > Protect your PRIVATE PARTS at all times! > Dave > > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 22:52:17 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 06:52:17 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year In-Reply-To: <7D159C0D-99AC-4078-9191-FA4B9A003511@me.com> References: <7D159C0D-99AC-4078-9191-FA4B9A003511@me.com> Message-ID: On 27 April 2010 23:11, David Rotigel wrote: > The dinner will (once again) be on Thursday. I'll be announcing it soon. > ? ? ? ?Dave I'll need to go and find some King Dick spanners for the auction then :-)) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From tchristoff at earthlink.net Wed Apr 28 10:33:14 2010 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 13:33:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year Message-ID: <19509584.1272475994310.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Better bring more than one Peter, more than one person may like to bid on them agian this year. Tim -----Original Message----- >From: Listerdiesel >Sent: Apr 28, 2010 1:52 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year > >On 27 April 2010 23:11, David Rotigel wrote: >> The dinner will (once again) be on Thursday. I'll be announcing it soon. >> ? ? ? ?Dave > >I'll need to go and find some King Dick spanners for the auction then :-)) > >Peter >-- >Peter A Forbes >Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com >http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel >http://stationary-engine.co.uk >http://www.oldengine.co.uk > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From George_Best at adp.com Wed Apr 28 10:41:36 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:41:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year In-Reply-To: <19509584.1272475994310.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <19509584.1272475994310.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3A7472ED@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Tim, Isn't that the point of an auction? To have multiple people bidding on a single item. ;-) If you have enough for everyone to get one, there is no incentive to bid the price higher to get one. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tim Christoff Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:33 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year Better bring more than one Peter, more than one person may like to bid on them agian this year. Tim This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From tchristoff at earthlink.net Wed Apr 28 11:04:58 2010 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:04:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year Message-ID: <5128301.1272477898362.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Very true George, I just don't want to get my butt kicked by a little girl again. The stare that I kept getting from her last year everytime I bid her up was more than I could take. Tim -----Original Message----- >From: "Best, George" >Sent: Apr 28, 2010 1:41 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year > >Tim, > >Isn't that the point of an auction? To have multiple people bidding on a single item. ;-) > >If you have enough for everyone to get one, there is no incentive to bid the price higher to get one. > >George > > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tim Christoff >Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:33 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year > >Better bring more than one Peter, more than one person may like to bid on them agian this year. > >Tim > > >This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From rotigel at me.com Wed Apr 28 12:12:01 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:12:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3A7472ED@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <19509584.1272475994310.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3A7472ED@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: On Apr 28, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Best, George wrote: > Tim, > If you have enough for everyone to get one, there is no incentive to > bid the price higher to get one. > > George That, George, depends GREATLY on how much beer has been consumed AND who might have stolen (Hi Dolly) my bid card! Dave From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Apr 28 21:44:11 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:44:11 -0700 Subject: [SEL] More Witte cart. Message-ID: <20100428.214450.1097.81938@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> Hi all. Yesterday I sand blasted the Witte cart, today I sanded it smooth and took to powder coater. I added some pictures after blasting to show details of construction. This is the one with the automotive type steering. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/WitteCart# Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 From weolson at wiktel.com Wed Apr 28 21:50:08 2010 From: weolson at wiktel.com (William Olson) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:50:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker, OT In-Reply-To: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <1107372525.20100428235008@wiktel.com> Hi Rob, Monday, April 26, 2010, 9:54:45 PM, you wrote: RS> Have you SEEN this engine collector on Facebook? RS> What's up with that guy, anyway? RS> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=743264506 RS> _______________________________________________ RS> SEL mailing list RS> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com RS> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel He's just fed up with the all the liberals in charge who are spending our and our grandchildren's money, which they don't yet have, on things that we don't need, can't afford and don't want. Our deficit is out of sight and getting worse. -- Thanks, William mailto:weolson at wiktel.com Outgoing mail checked by Comodo AntiVirus From marinesurveys at msn.com Thu Apr 29 02:06:01 2010 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 05:06:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] More Witte cart. In-Reply-To: <20100428.214450.1097.81938@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100428.214450.1097.81938@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Awesome job Ron, congrats Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:44:11 -0700 > From: rdhaskell at juno.com > Subject: [SEL] More Witte cart. > > Hi all. > Yesterday I sand blasted the Witte cart, today I sanded it smooth and > took to powder coater. I added some pictures after blasting to show > details of construction. This is the one with the automotive type > steering. > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/WitteCart# > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! > http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Apr 29 15:23:15 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:23:15 EDT Subject: [SEL] More Witte cart. Message-ID: <83f1f.2541f01b.390b60d3@aol.com> Nice job there Ron. Lots of time and work involved. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From rdhaskell at juno.com Thu Apr 29 16:00:08 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:00:08 -0700 Subject: [SEL] More Witte cart. Message-ID: <20100429.160046.965.153518@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> Thanks Tom. Yes I spent more time designing the front axle than on all other operations combined. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:23:15 EDT Germoamer at aol.com writes: > Nice job there Ron. Lots of time and work involved. > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com ____________________________________________________________ 2547% Penny Stock Picks? Our last pick exploded 2547% - Join our free newsletter today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bda0fb4813ea1cee3dst03vuc From falcon at telenet.net Thu Apr 29 20:34:57 2010 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 23:34:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] New Harbor Freight website it has a major security hole. Message-ID: <4BDA4FE1.3000103@telenet.net> DO NOT USE IT!!!! I went there and looked it over. Yes it's slow. They have a notice that if you had an account prior to the 19 you need to sign up for a new one. I clicked the account button to create a new account. Instead of getting any type of account log in or sign-up page I was sent to the account of a person who lives in the 914 area of NY. It listed the name,address,phone numbers and recent orders for this person. Thinking this was a glitch I tried to exit and reload the page. It brought up a new page with the account information of a person in Wisconsin! I closed down the browser, flushed the memory and went back to the site to see if I could get in. Went to the same "secure" section of the site and tried the account button again. It took me to yet another members account information! I just sent the customer service an E-mail about it but don't know if they will take action. -- Steve W. (\___/) (='.'=) (")_(") From edstoller at earthlink.net Thu Apr 1 18:44:18 2010 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed Stoller) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 21:44:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Beckman & Simpson Manuals References: Message-ID: Hi Elden, I don't need those manuals , but do need manual for a Conar Volt meter Model 212. Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT, USA http:/home.earthlink.net/~estoller/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "Stationary Engine List" Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:32 PM Subject: [SEL] Beckman & Simpson Manuals > Gang: > > I've been cleaning out some old files and found manuals for the following > meters that I no longer own. > > Simpson Model 260 Series 5 and 5M Operator's Manual. > Beckman Tech 300 and Tech 310 Digital Multimeters. > > If anyone wants these, they're free!! :-) > > Otherwise, I'll deep six 'em. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 1 06:51:45 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:51:45 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - RE: Beckman & Simpson Manuals In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ed: Sorry, I don't have that manual although someone here may have it. Since I retired I've gotten rid of some of my test gear but have kept the Tek 468 'scope, the Weston 1240 (Nixie tube display), function generator, Fluke counter, etc. as I still use 'em occasionally. I think I paid about $7,000 for the Tektronix 'scope when it was new. Last time I checked on Ebay, they were bringing a couple hundred bucks. At that price, I can use it 'til it croaks then junk it. :-) Stuff I shouldn't have gotten rid of includes my H-P harmonic distortion analyzer (bought new, sold for $150), my Hickock tube tester and several other small items that I find that I could occasionally use. Oh, well ........ Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Ed Stoller > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 08:44 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Beckman & Simpson Manuals > > > Hi Elden, > > I don't need those manuals , but do need manual > for a Conar Volt meter Model > 212. > > Ed Stoller > New Fairfield, CT, USA > http:/home.earthlink.net/~estoller/ From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Thu Apr 1 09:33:45 2010 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 10:33:45 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel Message-ID: Need some help gang. How does one cut/form flat plate spring steel? We need one for the dog on the ratchet that advances the bolt of wood on our shingle mill. Pix at; http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2794526910039077051PBYOMo "Thanks for looking" RickinMt. PS: Thinking about using the flat stock off an ole putty knife ???? From christison at coastalnet.com Thu Apr 1 09:53:32 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 12:53:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BB4CF8C.5020905@coastalnet.com> Hi Richard, The mill is lookin' good! Have you thought of perhaps using a short length cut from an 8 day clock mainspring? I have used these with success for similar projects in the past. Take care. Ken Richard Strobel wrote: > Need some help gang. How does one cut/form flat plate spring steel? We > need one for the dog on the ratchet that advances the bolt of wood on our > shingle mill. > > Pix at; > > http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2794526910039077051PBYOMo > > "Thanks for looking" > > RickinMt. > > PS: Thinking about using the flat stock off an ole putty knife ???? > > _______________________________________________ > > > > From maytagtwin at aol.com Thu Apr 1 10:09:51 2010 From: maytagtwin at aol.com (maytagtwin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 13:09:51 -0400 Subject: [SEL] : Spring Steel Message-ID: <8CC9FD546E8A394-58C8-1E9B2@Webmail-d109.sysops.aol.com> Re: [SEL] Spring Steel From:maytagtwin at aol.commaytagtwin@aol.com To:Richard_Strobel7 at msn.comDate:Thu, Apr 1, 2010 12:04 pmHi Rick, If you have a Dremel hand held rotary tool you can use a small stone and easily cut spring steel.? If you have a damp sponge or rag, you can prevent loss of temper, too.? ? Your putty knife should work.? Other sources I have used are recoil springs from lawn mower engines and the flat steel from sewer snakes.? ? Regards, Ron -----Original Message----- From: Richard Strobel <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com> To: The SEL email discussion list <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Sent: Thu, Apr 1, 2010 11:33 am Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel Need some help gang. How does one cut/form flat plate spring steel? We need one for the dog on the ratchet that advances the bolt of wood on our shingle mill. Pix at; http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2794526910039077051PBYOMo "Thanks for looking" RickinMt. PS: Thinking about using the flat stock off an ole putty knife ???? _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Apr 1 10:22:59 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:22:59 EDT Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel Message-ID: <2e69f.5ee3ba0.38e63073@aol.com> The old putty knife probably would work ok. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From frappi at wcoil.com Thu Apr 1 10:28:24 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 13:28:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100401172820.5090B92BE@smtp.wcoil.com> HI Rick, I don't know he exact particulars but you will have to heat it and take the spring out of it (Anneal) do your changes and then retreat it into spring. A putty knife I think is what's called hardened and tempered. You will probably have to anneal it and do the shaping and changing of the steel then re-temper and harden. You should be able to find some specifics if you do a Google search on how to go about it. Its a fairly complex or exacting science. Someone experienced at it makes it look easy. Know a black smith in your area? Get the time and temp wrong and you loose. You may have to try it on two or three pieces till you get it right. You will need some type of way to evenly heat the metal to probably about 1500 degrees and let it cool to anneal the metal. This softens it. Do your shaping and then heat again to about the same temp then quench in some type of oil or brine. That gives you a very basic idea of what's needed. Not hot enough and no spring, too hot and the metal gets too brittle I think. TTYL, Mark At 12:33 PM 4/1/2010, you wrote: >Need some help gang. How does one cut/form flat plate spring steel? We >need one for the dog on the ratchet that advances the bolt of wood on our >shingle mill. > >Pix at; > >http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2794526910039077051PBYOMo > >"Thanks for looking" > >RickinMt. > >PS: Thinking about using the flat stock off an ole putty knife ???? > >____ Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From don.h at wcoil.com Thu Apr 1 11:44:30 2010 From: don.h at wcoil.com (Gus) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 14:44:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Re=3A__Spring_Steel?= In-Reply-To: <20100401172820.5090B92BE@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20100401172820.5090B92BE@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <46F1D4F981FC48CB91D8E7F17B098EA7@gusPC> go get some strapping stock they use to bind crates together I got some 1 1/2 wide you can just rivet several pieces together to make it stronger I bet a tractor dealer would have all kinds of this stuff off there crates ect.( you cant use any that green parts came in only red parts ( Like Farmal) Gus From falcon at telenet.net Thu Apr 1 11:48:19 2010 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:48:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BB4EA73.9090202@telenet.net> Richard Strobel wrote: > Need some help gang. How does one cut/form flat plate spring steel? We > need one for the dog on the ratchet that advances the bolt of wood on our > shingle mill. > > Pix at; > > http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2794526910039077051PBYOMo > > "Thanks for looking" > > RickinMt. > > PS: Thinking about using the flat stock off an ole putty knife ???? > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > What is the final shape you need? If the putty knife is one of the super flexible types it should work OK. Usually you anneal the steel, perform whatever you need to do then heat treat it back. BUT to cut it you can use a carbide blade in a saw or a dremel cut off. To drill it the easy way is to spot anneal using a simple method. Reverse a drill bit, spin it at high speed then use it to heat the spots you need to drill. Then drill the hole when it cools. Or you can punch the holes. -- Steve W. From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Apr 1 19:34:10 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 13:34:10 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show Message-ID: <3FE75DEC29C446179967C1BF5FE0D9F2@peterlowe> Hi Guys What day does the Mt Pleasant Show wind down. It runs from Thursday 2nd Sept, to Monday 6th Sept. I will be flying home right after Mt Pleasant We have an R&V Factory Tour happening again, it will be from Mt Pleasant to East Moline on the 1st Sept, bookings are a must to get bus numbers. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines From d.fleming at sasktel.net Thu Apr 1 20:22:01 2010 From: d.fleming at sasktel.net (Don Fleming) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 21:22:01 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show References: <3FE75DEC29C446179967C1BF5FE0D9F2@peterlowe> Message-ID: <000701cad213$aba6d710$4200a8c0@2S4KN5K0H3> Hi Peter: Is Kaye going to be there also?? Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:34 PM Subject: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show > Hi Guys > > What day does the Mt Pleasant Show wind down. It runs from Thursday 2nd > Sept, to Monday 6th Sept. > I will be flying home right after Mt Pleasant > > We have an R&V Factory Tour happening again, it will be from Mt Pleasant > to East Moline on the 1st Sept, bookings are a must to get bus numbers. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > Skype name: ozengines > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Apr 1 22:14:28 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 16:14:28 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show References: <3FE75DEC29C446179967C1BF5FE0D9F2@peterlowe> <000701cad213$aba6d710$4200a8c0@2S4KN5K0H3> Message-ID: Hi Kay No, just little old me ;-))) She had a vacation in Thailand a few weeks ago, now it is my turn. Pete > Hi Peter: > > Is Kaye going to be there also?? > > Kay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Lowe" > To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" > > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:34 PM > Subject: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show > > >> Hi Guys >> >> What day does the Mt Pleasant Show wind down. It runs from Thursday 2nd >> Sept, to Monday 6th Sept. >> I will be flying home right after Mt Pleasant >> >> We have an R&V Factory Tour happening again, it will be from Mt Pleasant >> to East Moline on the 1st Sept, bookings are a must to get bus numbers. >> >> Regards >> Peter Lowe >> R&V Engine Registrar >> Australia >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >> Skype name: ozengines >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Thu Apr 1 23:44:08 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 17:44:08 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show References: <3FE75DEC29C446179967C1BF5FE0D9F2@peterlowe><000701cad213$aba6d710$4200a8c0@2S4KN5K0H3> Message-ID: Dave, dont you DARE line up Bambi and the other girls!! Kaye will never forgive you! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show > Hi Kay > No, just little old me ;-))) > She had a vacation in Thailand a few weeks ago, now it is my turn. > > Pete > > > > >> Hi Peter: >> >> Is Kaye going to be there also?? >> >> Kay >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter Lowe" >> To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" >> >> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:34 PM >> Subject: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show >> >> >>> Hi Guys >>> >>> What day does the Mt Pleasant Show wind down. It runs from Thursday 2nd >>> Sept, to Monday 6th Sept. >>> I will be flying home right after Mt Pleasant >>> >>> We have an R&V Factory Tour happening again, it will be from Mt Pleasant >>> to East Moline on the 1st Sept, bookings are a must to get bus numbers. >>> >>> Regards >>> Peter Lowe >>> R&V Engine Registrar >>> Australia >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>> Skype name: ozengines >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Fri Apr 2 06:58:57 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:58:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show In-Reply-To: References: <3FE75DEC29C446179967C1BF5FE0D9F2@peterlowe> <000701cad213$aba6d710$4200a8c0@2S4KN5K0H3> Message-ID: <13E929C4-D165-4B0F-8F80-B74955101EF4@me.com> You know the rule Reg--What Happens At Mt. Pleasant Stays At Mt. Pleasant! Dave On Apr 2, 2010, at 2:44 AM, Reg Ingold wrote: > Dave, dont you DARE line up Bambi and the other girls!! > Kaye will never forgive you! > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle.NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Lowe" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 4:14 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show > > >> Hi Kay >> No, just little old me ;-))) >> She had a vacation in Thailand a few weeks ago, now it is my turn. >> >> Pete >> >> >> >> >>> Hi Peter: >>> >>> Is Kaye going to be there also?? >>> >>> Kay >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peter Lowe" >>> To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:34 PM >>> Subject: [SEL] Mt Pleasant Show >>> >>> >>>> Hi Guys >>>> >>>> What day does the Mt Pleasant Show wind down. It runs from >>>> Thursday 2nd >>>> Sept, to Monday 6th Sept. >>>> I will be flying home right after Mt Pleasant >>>> >>>> We have an R&V Factory Tour happening again, it will be from Mt >>>> Pleasant >>>> to East Moline on the 1st Sept, bookings are a must to get bus >>>> numbers. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Peter Lowe >>>> R&V Engine Registrar >>>> Australia >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>>> Skype name: ozengines >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ddotto at cableone.net Fri Apr 2 08:26:54 2010 From: ddotto at cableone.net (Dave Otto) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 09:26:54 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5DFC8792735E45BD98AD79C21D0A1A06@shop> HI Rick Here is one option; http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26219/Product/NO__149_FLAT_SPRING_STOCK This material so dead soft; cut form, and drill to your liking. Then have someone with a furnace heat treat it and temper it to the proper springiness for you. Dave Dave Otto Boise, Idaho -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard Strobel Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 10:34 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel Need some help gang. How does one cut/form flat plate spring steel? We need one for the dog on the ratchet that advances the bolt of wood on our shingle mill. Pix at; http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2794526910039077051PBYOMo "Thanks for looking" RickinMt. PS: Thinking about using the flat stock off an ole putty knife ???? _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4910 (20100302) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4910 (20100302) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4910 (20100302) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 08:52:18 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 11:52:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OK folks, watch the video in the link below. If Guam gets too many people on it that it can cause it to "tip over", then if there is too much iron in one location it could do the same thing. I went on line and found a study of "weights" of locations in the US. To my amazement, the "lightest" area of the world is centered around central KY. Do your part to save the earth, start sending your old heavy iron this way. I will sacrifice the couple hundred acres I own to place these items on. For mags, ignitors, etc, you can ship by mail. For entire engines, send your address and we'll have them picked up or shipped (you pay the freight of course). I've heard some of the heaviest items are those with slide valves and sideshafts. They should immediately be shipped (I'll pay freight on them to help you out)! Do your part to save the earth. This may be your only chance! http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93533?fp=1 Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY From edurand at mchsi.com Fri Apr 2 10:31:16 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 12:31:16 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Tommy: You are a man among men - a gentleman and a scholar - a fine person ........ AND a scoundrel! Don't you know that the Panhandle of Florida is the center of the universe and, in order to keep the universe balanced, all the especially old and fine iron (copper and brass included) should be shipped here. :-) Of course everybody knows that the older the iron and the finer, the higher it's density and weight are. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Judge Tommy > Turner > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 10:52 AM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > > > OK folks, watch the video in the link below. If > Guam gets too many > people on it that it can cause it to "tip over", > then if there is too > much iron in one location it could do the same thing. > > I went on line and found a study of "weights" of > locations in the US. > To my amazement, the "lightest" area of the world > is centered around > central KY. Do your part to save the earth, > start sending your old > heavy iron this way. I will sacrifice the couple > hundred acres I own to > place these items on. > > For mags, ignitors, etc, you can ship by mail. > For entire engines, send > your address and we'll have them picked up or > shipped (you pay the > freight of course). > > I've heard some of the heaviest items are those > with slide valves and > sideshafts. They should immediately be shipped > (I'll pay freight on > them to help you out)! Do your part to save the > earth. This may be your > only chance! > > http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93533?fp=1 > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Apr 2 09:32:46 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 09:32:46 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <118CDB80-C7EC-4B35-915C-0BBF896C8814@rustyiron.com> On Apr 2, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > > I've heard some of the heaviest items are those with slide valves and > sideshafts. They should immediately be shipped (I'll pay freight on > them to help you out)! Do your part to save the earth. This may be > your > only chance! Your intentions may be noble Tommy, but we shouldn't risk capsizing the Guam of the Appalachians. Rob P.S. Besides, your efforts aren't to save the Earth, just Kentucky. As I sit here, I wonder, "why?" From mr at carolina.rr.com Fri Apr 2 09:34:27 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 12:34:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY References: Message-ID: <004e01cad282$5c9e2550$0201a8c0@mikecomp> You are a little too far N/W in your calculations and must take into consideration Mammoth Cave. Being that huge underground cavern is empty, that makes your area actually too light and you could "sink Kentucky" with too much iron. Oddly enough, Shelby NC has the perfect balance of lightness and the geographic substructure to support "New Iron." Quick, divert those trailers before KY disappears like a gigantic sinkhole. MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:52 AM Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > OK folks, watch the video in the link below. If Guam gets too many > people on it that it can cause it to "tip over", then if there is too > much iron in one location it could do the same thing. > > I went on line and found a study of "weights" of locations in the US. > To my amazement, the "lightest" area of the world is centered around > central KY. Do your part to save the earth, start sending your old > heavy iron this way. I will sacrifice the couple hundred acres I own to > place these items on. > > For mags, ignitors, etc, you can ship by mail. For entire engines, send > your address and we'll have them picked up or shipped (you pay the > freight of course). > > I've heard some of the heaviest items are those with slide valves and > sideshafts. They should immediately be shipped (I'll pay freight on > them to help you out)! Do your part to save the earth. This may be your > only chance! > > http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93533?fp=1 > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Apr 2 10:03:17 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 13:03:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100402170310.EA98692A3@smtp.wcoil.com> Now Now, everyone knows NW Ohio has the Lime stone foundation to support it all. And pretty level in most places too so there will a reduced need for cribbing so we will not have to cut down so many trees for support of the base. Also we have newly discovered gas and oil for fuel and lubrication so the transportation cost and carbon foot print of transporting the fuel to the end user is reduced as well. No Volcanoes like out west. We are geologically stable, and well above sea level for when global climate change totally melts the ice. After all of the slides and sides get here we will take the pushers and two cycles too. Maytags first in the 2 cycles. Mark PS: Gods it gave me hives using lib arguing points. But we must sacrifice for the Iron. My cross to bear. At 01:31 PM 4/2/2010, you wrote: >Tommy: > >You are a man among men - a gentleman and a scholar - a fine person ........ > >AND a scoundrel! > >Don't you know that the Panhandle of Florida is the center of the >universe and, in order to keep the universe balanced, all the >especially old and fine iron (copper and brass included) should be >shipped here. :-) > >Of course everybody knows that the older the iron and the finer, the >higher it's density and weight are. > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of Judge Tommy > > Turner > > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 10:52 AM > > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > > Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > > > > > > OK folks, watch the video in the link below. If > > Guam gets too many > > people on it that it can cause it to "tip over", > > then if there is too > > much iron in one location it could do the same thing. > > > > I went on line and found a study of "weights" of > > locations in the US. > > To my amazement, the "lightest" area of the world > > is centered around > > central KY. Do your part to save the earth, > > start sending your old > > heavy iron this way. I will sacrifice the couple > > hundred acres I own to > > place these items on. > > > > For mags, ignitors, etc, you can ship by mail. > > For entire engines, send > > your address and we'll have them picked up or > > shipped (you pay the > > freight of course). > > > > I've heard some of the heaviest items are those > > with slide valves and > > sideshafts. They should immediately be shipped > > (I'll pay freight on > > them to help you out)! Do your part to save the > > earth. This may be your > > only chance! > > > > http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93533?fp=1 > > > > Tommy Turner > > Magnolia, KY > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2785 - Release Date: >04/02/10 06:32:00 Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Apr 2 10:04:19 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 13:04:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio Message-ID: <20100402170413.350FB92A3@smtp.wcoil.com> Now Now, everyone knows NW Ohio has the Lime stone foundation to support it all. And pretty level in most places too so there will a reduced need for cribbing so we will not have to cut down so many trees for support of the base. Also we have newly discovered gas and oil for fuel and lubrication so the transportation cost and carbon foot print of transporting the fuel to the end user is reduced as well. No Volcanoes like out west. We are geologically stable, and well above sea level for when global climate change totally melts the ice. After all of the slides and sides get here we will take the pushers and two cycles too. Maytags first in the 2 cycles. Mark PS: Gods it gave me hives using lib arguing points. But we must sacrifice for the Iron. My cross to bear. At 01:31 PM 4/2/2010, you wrote: >Tommy: > >You are a man among men - a gentleman and a scholar - a fine person ........ > >AND a scoundrel! > >Don't you know that the Panhandle of Florida is the center of the >universe and, in order to keep the universe balanced, all the >especially old and fine iron (copper and brass included) should be >shipped here. :-) > >Of course everybody knows that the older the iron and the finer, the >higher it's density and weight are. > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of Judge Tommy > > Turner > > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 10:52 AM > > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > > Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > > > > > > OK folks, watch the video in the link below. If > > Guam gets too many > > people on it that it can cause it to "tip over", > > then if there is too > > much iron in one location it could do the same thing. > > > > I went on line and found a study of "weights" of > > locations in the US. > > To my amazement, the "lightest" area of the world > > is centered around > > central KY. Do your part to save the earth, > > start sending your old > > heavy iron this way. I will sacrifice the couple > > hundred acres I own to > > place these items on. > > > > For mags, ignitors, etc, you can ship by mail. > > For entire engines, send > > your address and we'll have them picked up or > > shipped (you pay the > > freight of course). > > > > I've heard some of the heaviest items are those > > with slide valves and > > sideshafts. They should immediately be shipped > > (I'll pay freight on > > them to help you out)! Do your part to save the > > earth. This may be your > > only chance! > > > > http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93533?fp=1 > > > > Tommy Turner > > Magnolia, KY > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2785 - Release Date: >04/02/10 06:32:00 Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 11:07:37 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 14:07:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <004e01cad282$5c9e2550$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: Mike, I've confirmed 2 loads are on their way and will be here soon. I had the Univ. of KY do some calculations and its true, your area is one of the "lighter" areas of the US (significantly heavier though than KY). But your close proximity to the Atlantic would more than likely cause NC to simply tip into the ocean should much additional weight be placed in your state. I've had reservations about UK's number crunching though. They haven't figured out that 3 is larger than 2 (as in 3 point field goals vs. 2 point field goals). Maybe we should consult the Univ. of WV on this matter. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY You are a little too far N/W in your calculations and must take into consideration Mammoth Cave. Being that huge underground cavern is empty, that makes your area actually too light and you could "sink Kentucky" with too much iron. Oddly enough, Shelby NC has the perfect balance of lightness and the geographic substructure to support "New Iron." Quick, divert those trailers before KY disappears like a gigantic sinkhole. MR From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 11:09:45 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 14:09:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3CF6F8A0010F4A2C9AB05606DFC1ECBB@laruecounty.courthouse> Elden, With Florida's low sea level elevations, it would be under water when only a few loads were hauled in. I'm on high ground. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Don't you know that the Panhandle of Florida is the center of the universe and, in order to keep the universe balanced, all the especially old and fine iron (copper and brass included) should be shipped here. :-) Of course everybody knows that the older the iron and the finer, the higher it's density and weight are. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand //www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 11:12:48 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 14:12:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <118CDB80-C7EC-4B35-915C-0BBF896C8814@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <6761194AA004445287B947224E9AE0B0@laruecounty.courthouse> Should I possibly run for Congress Rob? It sounds like I could fit in as I apparently have the attitude that most there have: "I'll take care of myself and to heck with the rest" Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY P.S. Besides, your efforts aren't to save the Earth, just Kentucky. As I sit here, I wonder, "why?" _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 11:21:50 2010 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 14:21:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <20100402170310.EA98692A3@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Mark, You've somewhat convinced me. Everyone, ship the Maytags to OH, the rest to KY. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Maytags first in the 2 cycles. Mark From oldironnut at windstream.net Fri Apr 2 11:41:33 2010 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 14:41:33 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41FF0D2E-9C16-4002-A7E8-EFDE6F581417@windstream.net> On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > I've heard some of the heaviest items are those with slide valves and > sideshafts. They should immediately be shipped (I'll pay freight on > them to help you out)! Do your part to save the earth. This may be your > only chance! Tommy, To maintain a proper East/West balance, some of the iron shipments should come to our place here in Versailles. We only have 10 acres so to counterbalance your couple of hundred acres, those heavy slide valves and sideshafts should come to our place and the lighter Hercules and such can be stored at your place. Just trying to do my part to save the world, Mike ______________________ Michael Tucker oldironnut at windstream.net Versailles, Kentucky, USA ______________________ From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Apr 2 11:43:07 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 14:43:07 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio In-Reply-To: References: <20100402170310.EA98692A3@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <20100402184310.870A092E5@smtp.wcoil.com> Works for me!! At 02:21 PM 4/2/2010, you wrote: >Mark, > You've somewhat convinced me. Everyone, ship the Maytags to OH, >the rest to KY. >Tommy Turner >Magnolia, KY > >>Now Now, everyone knows NW Ohio has the Lime stone foundation to >>support it all. And pretty level in most places too so there will a >>reduced need for cribbing so we will not have to cut down so many >>trees for support of the base. Also we have newly discovered gas >>and oil for fuel and lubrication so the transportation cost and >>carbon foot print of transporting the fuel to the end user is >>reduced as well. No Volcanoes like out west. We are geologically >>stable, and well above sea level for when global climate change >>totally melts the ice. After all of the slides and sides get here >>we will take the pushers and two cycles too. Maytags first in the >>2 cycles. Mark >> >>PS: Gods it gave me hives using lib arguing points. But we must >>sacrifice for the Iron. My cross to bear. Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 12:22:36 2010 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 15:22:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <41FF0D2E-9C16-4002-A7E8-EFDE6F581417@windstream.net> Message-ID: You're a generous guy Mike. We'll do this, once my property is full, we'll let you have the overflow. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Michael Tucker Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 2:42 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > I've heard some of the heaviest items are those with slide valves and > sideshafts. They should immediately be shipped (I'll pay freight on > them to help you out)! Do your part to save the earth. This may be your > only chance! Tommy, To maintain a proper East/West balance, some of the iron shipments should come to our place here in Versailles. We only have 10 acres so to counterbalance your couple of hundred acres, those heavy slide valves and sideshafts should come to our place and the lighter Hercules and such can be stored at your place. Just trying to do my part to save the world, Mike ______________________ Michael Tucker oldironnut at windstream.net Versailles, Kentucky, USA ______________________ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2743 - Release Date: 04/02/10 06:32:00 From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 12:23:21 2010 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 15:23:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio In-Reply-To: <20100402184310.870A092E5@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: It's a deal Mark! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Works for me!! At 02:21 PM 4/2/2010, you wrote: >Mark, > You've somewhat convinced me. Everyone, ship the Maytags to OH, >the rest to KY. From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Fri Apr 2 12:47:07 2010 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 06:47:07 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <490B26CABCF843CD890ED75DC0D255AF@KerryPC> Typical Judge. understand the law and not real life 8-)) Tommy if you want the world to stay upright the way it is now, more weight has to go to the bottom to keep centre of gravity correct, when things travel south of the equator things get gravitated so that they cannot fall off the earth. So I think as a leading citizen up your way send some of the STUFF you have down this way to keep things just right Kerry Lithgow NSW Oz > OK folks, watch the video in the link below. If Guam gets too many > people on it that it can cause it to "tip over", then if there is too > much iron in one location it could do the same thing. > > I went on line and found a study of "weights" of locations in the US. > To my amazement, the "lightest" area of the world is centered around > central KY. Do your part to save the earth, start sending your old > heavy iron this way. I will sacrifice the couple hundred acres I own to > place these items on. > > For mags, ignitors, etc, you can ship by mail. For entire engines, send > your address and we'll have them picked up or shipped (you pay the > freight of course). > > I've heard some of the heaviest items are those with slide valves and > sideshafts. They should immediately be shipped (I'll pay freight on > them to help you out)! Do your part to save the earth. This may be your > only chance! From Germoamer at aol.com Fri Apr 2 13:01:47 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 16:01:47 EDT Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY Message-ID: <26e72.24287a44.38e7a72b@aol.com> China's Three Gorges Dam has caused the earth to tilt 1 inch on it's axis. This has led to global warming, earthquakes, more sever storms, and lots of other earthly stuff we do not know about yet. This needs to be corrected as soon as possible. In studying the direct opposite of this damn, one comes up with a tract of farm land near the middle of Virginia where I happen to live. Please send this heavy equipment to my address so that it may be strategically placed around the farm to start correcting this environmental catastrophe as soon as possible. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Apr 2 13:03:52 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 16:03:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio In-Reply-To: References: <20100402184310.870A092E5@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <20100402200345.322E492ED@smtp.wcoil.com> All right now were talking, You write and approve the bill I'll sign it into law and then get Rotigel and Arnie to enforce it. Mark At 03:23 PM 4/2/2010, you wrote: >It's a deal Mark! > >Tommy Turner >Magnolia, KY > > > >Works for me!! > > >At 02:21 PM 4/2/2010, you wrote: > >Mark, > > You've somewhat convinced me. Everyone, ship the Maytags to >OH, > >the rest to KY. > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2785 - Release Date: >04/02/10 06:32:00 Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From rotigel at me.com Fri Apr 2 14:12:17 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 17:12:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's one of the more intelligent statements from someone in your party that I've heard for a LONG time Tommy! Dave On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Do your part to save the earth. This may be your > only chance! > > http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93533?fp=1 > > Tommy Turner From edurand at mchsi.com Fri Apr 2 15:50:24 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 17:50:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <3CF6F8A0010F4A2C9AB05606DFC1ECBB@laruecounty.courthouse> Message-ID: Tommy: As soon as the state begins to sink, we'll bet the Guvmint to "hep us". That will bring billions and billions of dollars so we can pump-in concrete to shore it up. AND, the extra weight of the iron and concrete will firmly anchor us to the rest of the U.S. so we don't float away. With that iron in your part of KY, it might sink into a previously undiscovered cave! You wouldn't want that to happen, wouldya?? Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Judge Tommy > Turner > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 01:10 PM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > > > Elden, > With Florida's low sea level elevations, it > would be under water > when only a few loads were hauled in. I'm on high ground. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > Don't you know that the Panhandle of Florida is > the center of the > universe and, in order to keep the universe > balanced, all the especially > old and fine iron (copper and brass included) > should be shipped here. > :-) > > Of course everybody knows that the older the iron > and the finer, the > higher it's density and weight are. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand From tchristoff at earthlink.net Fri Apr 2 15:31:29 2010 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 18:31:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY Message-ID: <17718081.1270247489422.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I really can't beleive how wrong you all are. If you place all that heavy stuff in the areas stated your going to cause some major tilting of the US. All that stuff needs to be placed here in the middle of the country to keep things in balance. We have plenty of room, lots of open ground, no underground caves to cause sinking, oceans to flood the land or any of those nasty mountains which make storage difficult since everything would be at an angle. If all this stuff was placed in the eastern parts Calf. would gain more ground as it would rise up due to the heavy load in the east. Now do we really need more land on the west coast, the place is in deep debt as it is now, they couldn't handle any more expense. No, I think the simple solution is to bring it all to Kansas where there is land of plenty and friendly people to take care of it. Tim -----Original Message----- >From: Elden DuRand >Sent: Apr 2, 2010 6:50 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > >Tommy: > >As soon as the state begins to sink, we'll bet the Guvmint to "hep us". That will bring billions and billions of dollars so we can pump-in concrete to shore it up. AND, the extra weight of the iron and concrete will firmly anchor us to the rest of the U.S. so we don't float away. > >With that iron in your part of KY, it might sink into a previously undiscovered cave! You wouldn't want that to happen, wouldya?? > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of Judge Tommy >> Turner >> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 01:10 PM >> To: 'The SEL email discussion list' >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY >> >> >> Elden, >> With Florida's low sea level elevations, it >> would be under water >> when only a few loads were hauled in. I'm on high ground. >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY >> >> >> >> >> Don't you know that the Panhandle of Florida is >> the center of the >> universe and, in order to keep the universe >> balanced, all the especially >> old and fine iron (copper and brass included) >> should be shipped here. >> :-) >> >> Of course everybody knows that the older the iron >> and the finer, the >> higher it's density and weight are. >> >> Take care - Elden >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Fri Apr 2 15:55:47 2010 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 18:55:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio References: <20100402184310.870A092E5@smtp.wcoil.com> <20100402200345.322E492ED@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <007e01cad2b7$a2681a20$6401a8c0@PC179134136174> ALL stationary steam engines of 100 ton or more are to be shipped (via as many trucks as needed) to Youngstown, OH. I'll pay the freight. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Shulaw" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio > > All right now were talking, You write and approve the bill I'll sign > it into law and then get Rotigel and Arnie to enforce it. Mark > > > At 03:23 PM 4/2/2010, you wrote: >>It's a deal Mark! >> >>Tommy Turner >>Magnolia, KY >> >> >> >>Works for me!! >> >> >>At 02:21 PM 4/2/2010, you wrote: >> >Mark, >> > You've somewhat convinced me. Everyone, ship the Maytags to >>OH, >> >the rest to KY. >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2785 - Release Date: >>04/02/10 06:32:00 > > > Mark Shulaw > 454 County Road 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 16:05:37 2010 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 19:05:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes, and to think he switched parties just last year! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 5:12 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY That's one of the more intelligent statements from someone in your party that I've heard for a LONG time Tommy! Dave From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 16:56:34 2010 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 19:56:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio In-Reply-To: <007e01cad2b7$a2681a20$6401a8c0@PC179134136174> Message-ID: <271B3912AAD8420493E73364FC40182F@D2JYVHJ1> Rick, We're already trying to determine how to balance out the weight on that BIG hunk of iron there in Youngstown already. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick Rowlands Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:56 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio ALL stationary steam engines of 100 ton or more are to be shipped (via as many trucks as needed) to Youngstown, OH. I'll pay the freight. Rick From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 17:25:08 2010 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:25:08 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8A167A3D62144ADEBA3D1B54F4D643DB@D2JYVHJ1> Well Elden, a gov'met bail out would be in order. Except in this case it will be in the form of new sheds on my place to store all the iron that's headed this way. In fact, the "stimulus" has already started. Some of you have been to my place and you've seen the two buildings full of junk that I have here. We'll there's now a third one going up (and room for a 4th, 5th, 6th, etc). Here's a photo of building #3. Since this photo was made last week they've got the concrete poured. I'm getting ready! http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/NewBuilding#5455695661512072274 The building on the left in the photo is 62' x 126'. The second one is 48' x 60' and the new one is 42' x 60'. http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/NewBuilding#5455695663217424802 I told the wife around Christmas time that I either had to get rid of some junk or build another building. She said "that sounds like an easy one to answer". It was, I called the builder the following day and signed the contract on the new one. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Elden DuRand Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:50 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY Tommy: As soon as the state begins to sink, we'll bet the Guvmint to "hep us". That will bring billions and billions of dollars so we can pump-in concrete to shore it up. AND, the extra weight of the iron and concrete will firmly anchor us to the rest of the U.S. so we don't float away. With that iron in your part of KY, it might sink into a previously undiscovered cave! You wouldn't want that to happen, wouldya?? Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Fri Apr 2 17:37:52 2010 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:37:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio References: <271B3912AAD8420493E73364FC40182F@D2JYVHJ1> Message-ID: <00a601cad2c5$e52507c0$6401a8c0@PC179134136174> You must not have heard about the second big chunk of iron that is coming to Youngstown. Its a 26" x 54" x 48" cross compound generating engine built by Westinghouse Machine Co. in 1905. 18' flywheel ,estimated weight 150 tons. http://news.webshots.com/photo/2509985150033749120bRkwaV So you now only have about 400 tons worth of engines to balance out! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio > Rick, > We're already trying to determine how to balance out the weight > on that BIG hunk of iron there in Youngstown already. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Rowlands > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:56 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio > > ALL stationary steam engines of 100 ton or more are to be shipped (via > as > many trucks as needed) to Youngstown, OH. I'll pay the freight. > > Rick > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jbcast at charter.net Fri Apr 2 17:57:23 2010 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 17:57:23 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working Message-ID: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> We had our spring kickoff last weekend, weather was good, good food and great people. There's a link to pictures below and some you tube videos. http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/4/136989.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iirpza4iqc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywhfbbWco0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpl-Vkjo3c J.B. Castagnos From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 17:58:24 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:58:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio In-Reply-To: <00a601cad2c5$e52507c0$6401a8c0@PC179134136174> Message-ID: Looks like we're also going to have to get some iron from overseas to my place in order to balance out northern Ohio! Tommy Turner -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick Rowlands Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:38 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio You must not have heard about the second big chunk of iron that is coming to Youngstown. Its a 26" x 54" x 48" cross compound generating engine built by Westinghouse Machine Co. in 1905. 18' flywheel ,estimated weight 150 tons. http://news.webshots.com/photo/2509985150033749120bRkwaV So you now only have about 400 tons worth of engines to balance out! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio > Rick, > We're already trying to determine how to balance out the weight > on that BIG hunk of iron there in Youngstown already. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Rowlands > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:56 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio > > ALL stationary steam engines of 100 ton or more are to be shipped (via > as > many trucks as needed) to Youngstown, OH. I'll pay the freight. > > Rick > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Fri Apr 2 19:15:56 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 21:15:56 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <8A167A3D62144ADEBA3D1B54F4D643DB@D2JYVHJ1> Message-ID: Tommy: Lucky guy! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Judge Tommy > Turner > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 07:25 PM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > > > Well Elden, a gov'met bail out would be in order. > Except in this case > it will be in the form of new sheds on my place > to store all the iron > that's headed this way. In fact, the "stimulus" > has already started. From steve_royster at hotmail.com Fri Apr 2 18:17:14 2010 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 21:17:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <8A167A3D62144ADEBA3D1B54F4D643DB@D2JYVHJ1> References: , <8A167A3D62144ADEBA3D1B54F4D643DB@D2JYVHJ1> Message-ID: Hey Tommy, When you get building three built and filled up give me and Mike a call and we'll come for a visit. I've got some cool refreshing pepsi for you and we can sit in the shade of those Oak trees and talk about cleaning out your sheds...... I mean cleaning up those ole rusty engines of yours. Yer pal in North Carolina, Steve > From: lcjudge at scrtc.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:25:08 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > > Well Elden, a gov'met bail out would be in order. Except in this case > it will be in the form of new sheds on my place to store all the iron > that's headed this way. In fact, the "stimulus" has already started. > > Some of you have been to my place and you've seen the two buildings full > of junk that I have here. We'll there's now a third one going up (and > room for a 4th, 5th, 6th, etc). > > Here's a photo of building #3. Since this photo was made last week > they've got the concrete poured. I'm getting ready! > > http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/NewBuilding#5455695661512072274 > > The building on the left in the photo is 62' x 126'. The second one is > 48' x 60' and the new one is 42' x 60'. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/Lcjudge/NewBuilding#5455695663217424802 > > I told the wife around Christmas time that I either had to get rid of > some junk or build another building. She said "that sounds like an easy > one to answer". It was, I called the builder the following day and > signed the contract on the new one. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Elden > DuRand > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:50 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > > Tommy: > > As soon as the state begins to sink, we'll bet the Guvmint to "hep us". > That will bring billions and billions of dollars so we can pump-in > concrete to shore it up. AND, the extra weight of the iron and concrete > will firmly anchor us to the rest of the U.S. so we don't float away. > > With that iron in your part of KY, it might sink into a previously > undiscovered cave! You wouldn't want that to happen, wouldya?? > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From flywheel at netconnect.com.au Fri Apr 2 18:21:05 2010 From: flywheel at netconnect.com.au (Mark Kennedy) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 12:21:05 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Downunder In-Reply-To: <271B3912AAD8420493E73364FC40182F@D2JYVHJ1> References: <271B3912AAD8420493E73364FC40182F@D2JYVHJ1> Message-ID: <04F1B516-6E3C-4CE7-891F-F1413AE17B01@netconnect.com.au> With all this iron going to KY I think there needs to be some consideration to sending some 'Downunder' so as to re balance the world again, especially as we are selling all of our mineral ore as fast and as cheaply as we can to China. So in the interests of saving the planet, I humbly volunteer to receive any donations of 'old iron' and keep it safe for generations to come... :) Regards, Mark > Mark Kennedy Ballarat, Victoria, Australia Registrar for the WING Gauge & Instrument Co. http://www.oldengine.org/members/kennedy 'Training Down Under with the majesty of the South Australian Railways' All aboard the Pichi Richi Railway! http://www.prr.org.au/ *********************************************************** Important - This email and any attachments are confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any effected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender. From edurand at mchsi.com Fri Apr 2 19:21:28 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 21:21:28 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> Message-ID: JB: All of 'em looked like souped-up Maytags except for the V8-60! All that putt-putt'ing and one VAROOOOOOOM! :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > jbcast at charter.net > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 07:57 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working From rotigel at me.com Fri Apr 2 19:12:06 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 22:12:06 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> References: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> Message-ID: <00C3C4A4-C62E-47DC-942E-0D4E9320C0FC@me.com> Happy birthday JB! That smile on your daughter's face (in the first picture) says it all! Dave PS, Neat boats as well! On Apr 2, 2010, at 8:57 PM, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > We had our spring kickoff last weekend, weather was good, good food > and great people. There's a link to pictures below and some you tube > videos. > > > > > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/4/136989.html > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iirpza4iqc > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywhfbbWco0 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpl-Vkjo3c > > J.B. Castagnos From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Fri Apr 2 20:03:31 2010 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 23:03:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Downunder Message-ID: <86e01.3ced2060.38e80a03@aol.com> By gosh there is way to much rare iron on the Blue Grass State. I here there just sitting around down there in the recliners and the good engines just show up at there door's. Old farmers just giving that iron away. PS don't worry about that cheep iron ore over yonder, were giving cash out over here. KK In a message dated 4/2/2010 9:35:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, flywheel at netconnect.com.au writes: With all this iron going to KY I think there needs to be some consideration to sending some 'Downunder' so as to re balance the world again, especially as we are selling all of our mineral ore as fast and as cheaply as we can to China. So in the interests of saving the planet, I humbly volunteer to receive any donations of 'old iron' and keep it safe for generations to come... :) Regards, Mark > Mark Kennedy Ballarat, Victoria, Australia Registrar for the WING Gauge & Instrument Co. http://www.oldengine.org/members/kennedy 'Training Down Under with the majesty of the South Australian Railways' All aboard the Pichi Richi Railway! http://www.prr.org.au/ *********************************************************** Important - This email and any attachments are confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any effected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Fri Apr 2 20:48:39 2010 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 23:48:39 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Downunder In-Reply-To: <04F1B516-6E3C-4CE7-891F-F1413AE17B01@netconnect.com.au> Message-ID: <6BC982ED1D994D1B91B03032A708C027@D2JYVHJ1> Hey Mark, I see all the Rally reports from down under. There's gotten to be so much iron in Australia that my compass won't work right any more. Tommy Turner So in the interests of saving the planet, I humbly volunteer to receive any donations of 'old iron' and keep it safe for generations to come... :) Regards, Mark > Mark Kennedy Ballarat, Victoria, Australia From FRM8198 at aol.com Fri Apr 2 21:11:55 2010 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 00:11:55 EDT Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working Message-ID: <9681a.4f8120ab.38e81a0b@aol.com> J.B., Thanks for sharing. Francis In a message dated 4/2/2010 6:05:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jbcast at charter.net writes: We had our spring kickoff last weekend, weather was good, good food and great people. There's a link to pictures below and some you tube videos. From kkinney at herculesengines.com Fri Apr 2 21:14:15 2010 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 23:14:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> References: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> Message-ID: J.B. WOW! What a great time you guys must have had. Thanks for posting the great photo's and videos. Keith Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From mr at carolina.rr.com Sat Apr 3 05:47:30 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 08:47:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working References: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> Message-ID: <001e01cad32b$d31d07b0$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Man that looks like a ton of fun. And happy birthday I see! Best to you and all your buddies JB. MR ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:57 PM Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working > We had our spring kickoff last weekend, weather was good, good food and > great people. There's a link to pictures below and some you tube videos. > > > > > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/4/136989.html > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iirpza4iqc > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywhfbbWco0 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpl-Vkjo3c > > J.B. Castagnos > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Sat Apr 3 06:30:18 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 06:30:18 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> References: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> Message-ID: On Apr 2, 2010, at 5:57 PM, wrote: > We had our spring kickoff last weekend, weather was good, good food > and great people. There's a link to pictures below and some you tube > videos. > > > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/4/136989.html > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iirpza4iqc > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywhfbbWco0 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpl-Vkjo3c > > J.B. Castagnos That sure looks like a hoot, JB. The bateaux are cool contraptions, but the one that I really want to copy is your bent coathanger. Rob From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Apr 3 07:04:13 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 10:04:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <8A167A3D62144ADEBA3D1B54F4D643DB@D2JYVHJ1> References: <8A167A3D62144ADEBA3D1B54F4D643DB@D2JYVHJ1> Message-ID: <8e2abadfc45cc9bde0f7629a8041012e.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Tommy, I think you've got the right thing going here. Whenever Dave and Jennie have that discussion it seems her diamond collection grows larger. 8-)) Of course, in her defense, they don't take up NEARLY as much room as a 10 or 15 hp engine. See ya, Arnie On Fri, April 2, 2010 8:25 pm, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > I told the wife around Christmas time that I either had to get rid of > some junk or build another building. She said "that sounds like an easy > one to answer". It was, I called the builder the following day and > signed the contract on the new one. From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Apr 3 07:12:27 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 10:12:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <17718081.1270247489422.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net > References: <17718081.1270247489422.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <600846f9642bd504dc5f27d5047c06f2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Tim, You are SO wrong. Recall that we're trying to RESTORE balance. That means that all this good ol' iron and steel needs to back to where it was born; The Steel City, Pittsburgh! As a lifelong resident of the Steel City I do hereby pledge to be a faithful caretaker of this incoming old iron. And in keeping with prior arrangements, any Maytags that get mixed in will be shuttled off to Maytag Mark for safe-keeping. See ya, Arnie On Fri, April 2, 2010 6:31 pm, Tim Christoff wrote: > I really can't believe how wrong you all are. If you place all that heavy stuff in > the areas stated your going to cause some major tilting of the US. All that stuff > needs to be placed here in the middle of the country to keep things in balance. We > have plenty of room, lots of open ground, no underground caves to cause sinking, > oceans to flood the land or any of those nasty mountains which make storage > difficult since everything would be at an angle. If all this stuff was placed in > the eastern parts Calf. would gain more ground as it would rise up due to the heavy > load in the east. Now do we really need more land on the west coast, the place is > in deep debt as it is now, they couldn't handle any more expense. No, I think the > simple solution is to bring it all to Kansas where there is land of plenty and > friendly people to take care of it. From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Apr 3 07:17:49 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 10:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <490B26CABCF843CD890ED75DC0D255AF@KerryPC> References: <490B26CABCF843CD890ED75DC0D255AF@KerryPC> Message-ID: Good'un Kerry!! The ol' "keel effect." On Fri, April 2, 2010 3:47 pm, Kerry wrote: > Typical Judge. understand the law and not real life 8-)) > > Tommy if you want the world to stay upright the way it is now, more weight > has to go to the bottom to keep centre of gravity correct, when things > travel south of the equator things get gravitated so that they cannot fall > off the earth. > So I think as a leading citizen up your way send some of the STUFF you have > down this way to keep things just right From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Apr 3 07:10:38 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 10:10:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Very nice J.B. Looks like a lot of fun. I've never had a boat with an antique marine engine but you make me want one. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY > We had our spring kickoff last weekend, weather was good, good food > and great people. There's a link to pictures below and some you tube > videos. > > > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/4/136989.html > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iirpza4iqc > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywhfbbWco0 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpl-Vkjo3c > > J.B. Castagnos From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Apr 3 07:30:43 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 10:30:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> References: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> Message-ID: <0728c5ed8e3c97b3551f4e30efd27be0.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hiya J.B., DAMN, that looks like a super good time. I assume y'all put a proper end to those HUGE crawdads? BTW, there was ONE of those boat engines that looked just a teensy bit different from the others. Is that one rigged for water skiing? 8-)) Happy Birthday, ya young pup. See ya, Arnie On Fri, April 2, 2010 8:57 pm, jbcast at charter.net wrote: > We had our spring kickoff last weekend, weather was good, good food and great > people. There's a link to pictures below and some you tube videos. > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/4/136989.html From weolson at wiktel.com Sat Apr 3 07:47:16 2010 From: weolson at wiktel.com (William Olson) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 09:47:16 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <600846f9642bd504dc5f27d5047c06f2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <17718081.1270247489422.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <600846f9642bd504dc5f27d5047c06f2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <937175856.20100403094716@wiktel.com> Hi Arnie, Saturday, April 3, 2010, 9:12:27 AM, you wrote: AF> Tim, AF> You are SO wrong. Recall that we're trying to RESTORE balance. That means that all AF> this good ol' iron and steel needs to back to where it was born; The Steel City, AF> Pittsburgh! As a lifelong resident of the Steel City I do hereby pledge to be a AF> faithful caretaker of this incoming old iron. And in keeping with prior AF> arrangements, any Maytags that get mixed in will be shuttled off to Maytag Mark for AF> safe-keeping. AF> See ya, Arnie AF> SEL mailing list AF> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com AF> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Come on now, you should know that with the source in mind, it should all be returned to Minnesota where most of the iron ore came from in the first place to build those engines. -- One Old Swede, William Olson, Roosevelt, MN USA mailto:weolson at wiktel.com Outgoing mail checked by Comodo AntiVirus From gastzt at aol.com Sat Apr 3 08:21:49 2010 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 11:21:49 EDT Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working Message-ID: <8f6b0.487be256.38e8b70d@aol.com> In a message dated 4/3/2010 8:32:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, rob at rustyiron.com writes: http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/4/136989.html These are GREAT pics---wow! thanks! Stan Old Stovers From jerrye at databak.co.za Sat Apr 3 10:22:45 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:22:45 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100403192053.00d077e8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 03/04/2010, you wrote: >Message: 39 >Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 10:12:27 -0400 (EDT) >From: "Arnie Fero" >Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Message-ID: > <600846f9642bd504dc5f27d5047c06f2.squirrel at webmail.city-net.com> >Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > >Tim, > >You are SO wrong. Recall that we're trying to RESTORE balance. That >means that all >this good ol' iron and steel needs to back to where it was born; The Steel >City, >Pittsburgh! As a lifelong resident of the Steel City I do hereby pledge >to be a >faithful caretaker of this incoming old ................................ Note to Mike & Steve, Ever heard this line before ?? Think Lorenz register :-) Jerry From jbcast at charter.net Sat Apr 3 11:03:54 2010 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:03:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100403140354.PHV02.1661065.root@mp05> > > That sure looks like a hoot, JB. The bateaux are cool contraptions, > but the one that I really want to copy is your bent coathanger. > > Rob > Rob, go to the link below and see where the gearless trans got started, there's a you tube video of it working. J.B. http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3441/136893.html From tchristoff at earthlink.net Sat Apr 3 11:05:26 2010 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:05:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY Message-ID: <27459668.1270317926967.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Does that mean I have to drive back to PA and return the 2000 lbs of rusty iron I hauled out of there last weekend? Tim -----Original Message----- >From: Arnie Fero >Sent: Apr 3, 2010 10:12 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > >Tim, > >You are SO wrong. Recall that we're trying to RESTORE balance. That means that all >this good ol' iron and steel needs to back to where it was born; The Steel City, >Pittsburgh! As a lifelong resident of the Steel City I do hereby pledge to be a >faithful caretaker of this incoming old iron. And in keeping with prior >arrangements, any Maytags that get mixed in will be shuttled off to Maytag Mark for >safe-keeping. > >See ya, Arnie > Tim Christoff From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Apr 3 11:49:48 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:49:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <27459668.1270317926967.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <27459668.1270317926967.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Yep. 8-)) On Sat, April 3, 2010 2:05 pm, Tim Christoff wrote: > > Does that mean I have to drive back to PA and return the 2000 lbs of rusty iron I > hauled out of there last weekend? From swebre at hotmail.com Sat Apr 3 12:36:04 2010 From: swebre at hotmail.com (Steve Webre) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 19:36:04 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What JB failed to mention is that the two days before, he lead 15 engine guys (locals, some Yankees and a even some Canadians) around the area visiting engine collections big and small. I missed the Friday excursion but someone said they had seen ~200+ engines in two days! The final gathering at JB's camp, getting the boats wet and eating excellent food was the crowning event. A great group w/ lots of fun had by all. -Steve- > We had our spring kickoff last weekend, weather was good, good food > and great people. There's a link to pictures below and some you tube > videos. > > > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/4/136989.html > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iirpza4iqc > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywhfbbWco0 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpl-Vkjo3c > > J.B. Castagnos From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Apr 3 13:19:19 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 16:19:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3c8444f6642a259c4fe96ca172e29173.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Sounds like a "Hell on Wheels Tour" - Cajun Style. On Sat, April 3, 2010 3:36 pm, Steve Webre wrote: > > What JB failed to mention is that the two days before, he lead 15 engine guys > (locals, some Yankees and a even some Canadians) around the area visiting engine > collections big and small. I missed the Friday excursion but someone said they had > seen ~200+ engines in two days! > > The final gathering at JB's camp, getting the boats wet and eating excellent food > was the crowning event. > > A great group w/ lots of fun had by all. > >> http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/4/136989.html From rotigel at me.com Sat Apr 3 13:45:06 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 16:45:06 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: <20100403140354.PHV02.1661065.root@mp05> References: <20100403140354.PHV02.1661065.root@mp05> Message-ID: That is NEAT J.B.! Sure one hell of a lot simpler that the Turbo Encabulator on which Arnie is working. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLDgQg6bq7o Dave On Apr 3, 2010, at 2:03 PM, jbcast at charter.net wrote: Dave >> >> That sure looks like a hoot, JB. The bateaux are cool contraptions, >> but the one that I really want to copy is your bent coathanger. >> >> Rob >> > Rob, go to the link below and see where the gearless trans got > started, there's a you tube video of it working. > J.B. > > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3441/136893.html From mr at carolina.rr.com Sat Apr 3 14:56:34 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:56:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100403192053.00d077e8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <003201cad378$87102940$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Now that's funny Jerry!!!!!!!!!!!! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Evans" To: Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > At 06:00 PM 03/04/2010, you wrote: >>Message: 39 >>Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 10:12:27 -0400 (EDT) >>From: "Arnie Fero" >>Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>Message-ID: >> <600846f9642bd504dc5f27d5047c06f2.squirrel at webmail.city-net.com> >>Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 >> >>Tim, >> >>You are SO wrong. Recall that we're trying to RESTORE balance. That >>means that all >>this good ol' iron and steel needs to back to where it was born; The Steel >>City, >>Pittsburgh! As a lifelong resident of the Steel City I do hereby pledge >>to be a >>faithful caretaker of this incoming old ................................ > > > Note to Mike & Steve, > Ever heard this line before ?? Think Lorenz register :-) > Jerry > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Sat Apr 3 15:07:19 2010 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 23:07:19 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY References: <27459668.1270317926967.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4486C0B41DBD4A729ACAEF5F1190E530@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Guys, Guys the best way to RESTORE the balance would be to place all those really lovely engines into containers and ship them to SCOTLAND where they will be looked after very well . We can also arrange to post pictures of the collection as it grows, I'm sure that this proposal would help restore the balance. Cheers, Craig > -----Original Message----- >>From: Arnie Fero >>Sent: Apr 3, 2010 10:12 AM >>To: The SEL email discussion list >>Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY >> >>Tim, >> >>You are SO wrong. Recall that we're trying to RESTORE balance. That >>means that all >>this good ol' iron and steel needs to back to where it was born; The Steel >>City, >>Pittsburgh! As a lifelong resident of the Steel City I do hereby pledge >>to be a >>faithful caretaker of this incoming old iron. And in keeping with prior >>arrangements, any Maytags that get mixed in will be shuttled off to Maytag >>Mark for >>safe-keeping. >> >>See ya, Arnie >> > > > > Tim Christoff > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2787 - Release Date: 04/03/10 06:32:00 From jbcast at charter.net Sat Apr 3 16:05:12 2010 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 16:05:12 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100403190512.OFRP9.4061275.root@mp06> ---- Steve Webre wrote: > > > > What JB failed to mention is that the two days before, he lead 15 engine guys (locals, some Yankees and a even some Canadians) around the area visiting engine collections big and small. I missed the Friday excursion but someone said they had seen ~200+ engines in two days! > > > > The final gathering at JB's camp, getting the boats wet and eating excellent food was the crowning event. > > > > A great group w/ lots of fun had by all. > > > > -Steve- > We call it the power tour, we left 7AM Friday, got home just before 10PM. Coverd 250 miles that day, 10 stops. Steve and Mel Webre were the second to last stop, they had coffe and snacks waiting. J.B. From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 3 17:01:32 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <982174.49205.qm@web111720.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> How about the little Snow engine we just got up to the Buckley show grounds last Summer? ? I don't remember the exacy weight right now but it was close to half a million pounds. something like 454,000 pounds of iron. ? Alan in Michigan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick Rowlands Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:38 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio You must not have heard about the second big chunk of iron that is coming to Youngstown.???Its a 26" x 54" x 48" cross compound generating engine built by Westinghouse Machine Co. in 1905.? 18' flywheel ,estimated weight 150 tons. http://news.webshots.com/photo/2509985150033749120bRkwaV So you now only have about 400 tons worth of engines to balance out! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio > Rick, > We're already trying to determine how to balance out the weight > on that BIG hunk of iron there in Youngstown already. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Rowlands > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:56 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY - Actually Ohio > > ALL stationary steam engines of 100 ton or more are to be shipped (via > as > many trucks as needed) to Youngstown, OH.? I'll pay the freight. > > Rick > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Apr 3 17:19:12 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 20:19:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <27459668.1270317926967.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <6738A8BEEAC24D90A2650CB79283A611@tommydk7hxjr4h> No Tim, don't pay any attention to Arnie. You don't have to drive all the way to PA, you can just drop it off in KY. Tommy Turner Does that mean I have to drive back to PA and return the 2000 lbs of rusty iron I hauled out of there last weekend? Tim From tchristoff at earthlink.net Sat Apr 3 21:49:13 2010 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 00:49:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY Message-ID: <14761904.1270356553330.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net> That would be closer (that is a long drive to PA.) and after leaving all that east coast iron at your place I will gladly remove anything that came from the west side of the Mississippi River and return it closer to where it should be, that is providing you might have a KC haypress engine lying around, do you? Tim -----Original Message----- >From: Judge Tommy Turner >Sent: Apr 3, 2010 8:19 PM >To: 'The SEL email discussion list' >Subject: Re: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY > >No Tim, don't pay any attention to Arnie. You don't have to drive all >the way to PA, you can just drop it off in KY. > >Tommy Turner > > > > >Does that mean I have to drive back to PA and return the 2000 lbs of >rusty iron I hauled out of there last weekend? > >Tim > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Apr 4 05:33:24 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:33:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Why Old Iron Should be Brought to KY In-Reply-To: <14761904.1270356553330.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3134184CDCBC47FEAE9DF3688D8CB715@tommydk7hxjr4h> Yeah Tim, a couple of them in fact. But, moving them west will upset the global balance of iron. We still have a considerable amount of weight to gather here! Tommy Turner That would be closer (that is a long drive to PA.) and after leaving all that east coast iron at your place I will gladly remove anything that came from the west side of the Mississippi River and return it closer to where it should be, that is providing you might have a KC haypress engine lying around, do you? Tim From steve_royster at hotmail.com Sun Apr 4 11:08:45 2010 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 14:08:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Engine Literature In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: >Hi from N.C. If any of you knows who bought the Gilson E catalog on Ebay or the Chapman Economizer Catalog last week, I'd sure love to have a photocopy of them. I'm also looking for literature on National Engineering Co engines. Thanks Steve _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Sun Apr 4 11:14:08 2010 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 12:14:08 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel In-Reply-To: <5DFC8792735E45BD98AD79C21D0A1A06@shop> References: <5DFC8792735E45BD98AD79C21D0A1A06@shop> Message-ID: Thank you all and Happy Easter. I guess we will go with the brownells at the link below. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Otto" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Spring Steel > HI Rick > > Here is one option; > > http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26219/Product/NO__149_FLAT_SPRING_STOCK > > This material so dead soft; cut form, and drill to your liking. Then have > someone with a furnace heat treat it and temper it to the proper > springiness > for you. > > Dave > > > Dave Otto > Boise, Idaho > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Richard > Strobel > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 10:34 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel > > Need some help gang. How does one cut/form flat plate spring steel? We > need one for the dog on the ratchet that advances the bolt of wood on our > shingle mill. > > Pix at; > > http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2794526910039077051PBYOMo > > "Thanks for looking" > > RickinMt. > > PS: Thinking about using the flat stock off an ole putty knife ???? > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4910 (20100302) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4910 (20100302) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4910 (20100302) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From flywheelin at hotmail.com Mon Apr 5 04:51:31 2010 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 11:51:31 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working In-Reply-To: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> References: <20100402205723.PEVUF.4061021.root@mp07> Message-ID: Great pictures. Loved the videos! Thanks for taking the time to take and post them. Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ---------------------------------------- > Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 17:57:23 -0700 > From: jbcast at charter.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Spring kickoff - engines working > > We had our spring kickoff last weekend, weather was good, good food and great people. There's a link to pictures below and some you tube videos. > > > > > http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/4/136989.html > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iirpza4iqc > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywhfbbWco0 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpl-Vkjo3c > > J.B. Castagnos > _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From George_Best at adp.com Mon Apr 5 08:47:11 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:47:11 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Norm Karde In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39D404DC@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Anyone got an email address for Norm Karde in Loomis CA? The email address I had is no longer working. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Apr 5 10:04:31 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:04:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Norm Karde In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39D404DC@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad .adp.com> References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39D404DC@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <20100405170427.D3E409212@smtp.wcoil.com> At 11:47 AM 4/5/2010, you wrote: >Anyone got an email address for Norm Karde in Loomis CA? > >The email address I had is no longer working. > >George George, The last I have is from 09 norman karde Mark Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Apr 5 10:14:03 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:14:03 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing Message-ID: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> Has any one noticed an unusually long delay in the time it takes for a post to appear once you send it? Not a bid deal per say. But for example when I see a question asked and I can answer it, I do if nobody else has replied. Then later I see others have answered with time stamps from before I answered. Yet they were not there before I answered. My email program refreshes every two minutes. So thats not the delay point . Like I said not a big deal but it wastes time and clutters up the list to answer when someone else already has. Is this a problem with my ISP or a list peculiarity? Mark Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 USA 419.358.5206 From George_Best at adp.com Mon Apr 5 10:14:37 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:14:37 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Norm Karde In-Reply-To: <20100405170427.D3E409212@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39D404DC@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> <20100405170427.D3E409212@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39D40841@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Thanks Mark! I've give that one a try. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark Shulaw Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:05 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Norm Karde At 11:47 AM 4/5/2010, you wrote: >Anyone got an email address for Norm Karde in Loomis CA? > >The email address I had is no longer working. > >George George, The last I have is from 09 norman karde Mark Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Apr 5 10:39:38 2010 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:39:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Hi Mark, Several responses I have sent lately never showed up at all, and sometimes I don't get original posts. I catch part of a thread with no idea of it's start. Steve > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:14:03 -0400 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > From: frappi at wcoil.com > Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > Has any one noticed an unusually long delay in the time it takes for > a post to appear once you send it? Not a bid deal per say. But for > example when I see a question asked and I can answer it, I do if > nobody else has replied. Then later I see others have answered with > time stamps from before I answered. Yet they were not there before I > answered. My email program refreshes every two minutes. So thats not > the delay point . Like I said not a big deal but it wastes time and > clutters up the list to answer when someone else already has. Is this > a problem with my ISP or a list peculiarity? Mark > > > Mark & Christine Shulaw > Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 > USA > 419.358.5206 > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From George_Best at adp.com Mon Apr 5 11:08:36 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:08:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39D40A49@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Steve, Depends on the BS level settings you are using on your email filters. If you have a low BS tolerance level, then a lot of the Royster messages get dropped ;-) George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve Royster Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:40 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing Hi Mark, Several responses I have sent lately never showed up at all, and sometimes I don't get original posts. I catch part of a thread with no idea of it's start. Steve This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From Germoamer at aol.com Mon Apr 5 11:25:55 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:25:55 EDT Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing Message-ID: In a message dated 4/5/2010 2:16:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, George_Best at adp.com writes: If you have a low BS tolerance level, then a lot of the Royster messages get dropped And here I thought it was because I still have a slow country dial-up system! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From rotigel at me.com Mon Apr 5 11:27:18 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:27:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <02734641-8292-4614-8D5B-9DE238B72809@me.com> On Apr 5, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Steve Royster wrote: > > Hi Mark, I catch part of a thread with no idea of it's start. Steve Damn Steve, I had no idea you were a DEMOCRAT! Dave From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Apr 5 12:44:11 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:44:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <20100405194407.5EEB6928D@smtp.wcoil.com> Now that you mention it I have noticed the missing original post too. Mark At 01:39 PM 4/5/2010, you wrote: >Hi Mark, Several responses I have sent lately never showed up at >all, and sometimes I don't get original posts. I catch part of a >thread with no idea of it's start. Steve > > > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:14:03 -0400 > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > From: frappi at wcoil.com > > Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > > > Has any one noticed an unusually long delay in the time it takes for > > a post to appear once you send it? Not a bid deal per say. But for > > example when I see a question asked and I can answer it, I do if > > nobody else has replied. Then later I see others have answered with > > time stamps from before I answered. Yet they were not there before I > > answered. My email program refreshes every two minutes. So thats not > > the delay point . Like I said not a big deal but it wastes time and > > clutters up the list to answer when someone else already has. Is this > > a problem with my ISP or a list peculiarity? Mark > > > > > > Mark & Christine Shulaw > > Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 > > USA > > 419.358.5206 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >_________________________________________________________________ >The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts >with Hotmail. >http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2792 - Release Date: >04/05/10 06:32:00 Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Apr 5 12:45:14 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:45:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39D40A49@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad .adp.com> References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39D40A49@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <20100405194510.0FF5A8D72@smtp.wcoil.com> I have my BS level settings at Zero so I can get them all to learn from the master. Mark At 02:08 PM 4/5/2010, you wrote: >Steve, > >Depends on the BS level settings you are using on your email >filters. If you have a low BS tolerance level, then a lot of the >Royster messages get dropped ;-) > >George > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve Royster >Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:40 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > >Hi Mark, Several responses I have sent lately never showed up at >all, and sometimes I don't get original posts. I catch part of a >thread with no idea of it's start. Steve > > > >This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of >the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and >confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended >recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, >you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication >is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in >error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message >and any attachments from your system. > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2792 - Release Date: >04/05/10 06:32:00 Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Apr 5 12:59:48 2010 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:59:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: <02734641-8292-4614-8D5B-9DE238B72809@me.com> References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com>, , <02734641-8292-4614-8D5B-9DE238B72809@me.com> Message-ID: Geee whizzz, I'm getting all teary eyed, I can just feel the love from all my pals on the list! , It makes me want to give away rare engines. Steve, the good Royster > From: rotigel at me.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:27:18 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > On Apr 5, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Steve Royster wrote: > > > > > Hi Mark, I catch part of a thread with no idea of it's start. Steve > > Damn Steve, I had no idea you were a DEMOCRAT! > Dave > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From benzengines at tiscali.co.uk Mon Apr 5 13:35:35 2010 From: benzengines at tiscali.co.uk (craig morrison) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:35:35 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com>, , <02734641-8292-4614-8D5B-9DE238B72809@me.com> Message-ID: <7AE2B73C29054B82BC3882B5EB20A5BE@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Steve, If you want to give some engines away just put the National Engineering and something else that's really nice in one of that steel crates that Mike has and ship them to Scotland, where they will be very well cared for . Cheers, Craig. P.S; I'll PM you my details so you can ship them safely without Mike knowing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > Geee whizzz, I'm getting all teary eyed, I can just feel the love from all > my pals on the list! , It makes me want to give away rare engines. > Steve, the good Royster > >> From: rotigel at me.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:27:18 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing >> >> >> On Apr 5, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Steve Royster wrote: >> >> > >> > Hi Mark, I catch part of a thread with no idea of it's start. Steve >> >> Damn Steve, I had no idea you were a DEMOCRAT! >> Dave >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2792 - Release Date: 04/05/10 06:32:00 From langer5 at xplornet.ca Mon Apr 5 14:20:48 2010 From: langer5 at xplornet.ca (Larry Anger) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:20:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Steve - I also get a lot of posts where the original message is missing and you don't know where the thread originated. That has been happening for a long time. Larry Anger 163926 Brownsville Rd. R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario Canada N4G 4G8 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > Hi Mark, Several responses I have sent lately never showed up at all, and > sometimes I don't get original posts. I catch part of a thread with no > idea of it's start. Steve > >> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:14:03 -0400 >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> From: frappi at wcoil.com >> Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing >> >> >> Has any one noticed an unusually long delay in the time it takes for >> a post to appear once you send it? Not a bid deal per say. But for >> example when I see a question asked and I can answer it, I do if >> nobody else has replied. Then later I see others have answered with >> time stamps from before I answered. Yet they were not there before I >> answered. My email program refreshes every two minutes. So thats not >> the delay point . Like I said not a big deal but it wastes time and >> clutters up the list to answer when someone else already has. Is this >> a problem with my ISP or a list peculiarity? Mark >> >> >> Mark & Christine Shulaw >> Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 >> USA >> 419.358.5206 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Mon Apr 5 15:02:38 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:02:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com>, , <02734641-8292-4614-8D5B-9DE238B72809@me.com> Message-ID: <355625386A5B4A7B8540953AA509CC6D@regpc> I cannot type for laughing!!! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 5:59 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > Geee whizzz, I'm getting all teary eyed, I can just feel the love from all > my pals on the list! , It makes me want to give away rare engines. > Steve, the good Royster > >> From: rotigel at me.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:27:18 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing >> >> >> On Apr 5, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Steve Royster wrote: >> >> > >> > Hi Mark, I catch part of a thread with no idea of it's start. Steve >> >> Damn Steve, I had no idea you were a DEMOCRAT! >> Dave >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lfevans at pacbell.net Mon Apr 5 16:27:01 2010 From: lfevans at pacbell.net (Larry Evans) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:27:01 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20100405161752.04419ac8@pop.att.yahoo.com> Larry, I think that what is happening is that some folks that are on both this and Jim Dunmyer's list on OldEngine.org might send a reply to both lists to a message that appeared originally on just one list. It can be confusing but probably results in more people getting involved. Larry Evans At 02:20 PM 4/5/2010, you wrote: >Steve - I also get a lot of posts where the original message is missing and >you don't know where the thread originated. That has been happening for a >long time. > >Larry Anger >163926 Brownsville Rd. >R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario >Canada N4G 4G8 Larry Evans MailTo:LFEVANS at pacbell.net http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Apr 5 17:52:14 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:52:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com>, , <02734641-8292-4614-8D5B-9DE238B72809@me.com> <355625386A5B4A7B8540953AA509CC6D@regpc> Message-ID: <003e01cad523$66332540$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Yeah, "Steve the good Royster" is pretty darn hilarious!!!!!!!! Mike ( the truly good ) Royster ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reg Ingold" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing >I cannot type for laughing!!! > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle.NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Royster" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 5:59 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > >> >> Geee whizzz, I'm getting all teary eyed, I can just feel the love from >> all >> my pals on the list! , It makes me want to give away rare engines. >> Steve, the good Royster >> >>> From: rotigel at me.com >>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:27:18 -0400 >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing >>> >>> >>> On Apr 5, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Steve Royster wrote: >>> >>> > >>> > Hi Mark, I catch part of a thread with no idea of it's start. Steve >>> >>> Damn Steve, I had no idea you were a DEMOCRAT! >>> Dave >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your >> inbox. >> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From kkinney at herculesengines.com Mon Apr 5 18:17:38 2010 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:17:38 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <817368BD-0F3D-4BA2-A300-7DDD61C43ED7@herculesengines.com> Yep, have that problem all the time. Keith On Apr 5, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Mark Shulaw wrote: > Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Apr 5 18:39:52 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:39:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20100405161752.04419ac8@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20100405161752.04419ac8@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100406013947.0055792E4@smtp.wcoil.com> I already thought of this but I am on both lists. So bust on that idea. Mark At 07:27 PM 4/5/2010, you wrote: >Larry, > >I think that what is happening is that some folks that are on both this and >Jim Dunmyer's list on OldEngine.org might send a reply to both lists to a >message that appeared originally on just one list. It can be confusing but >probably results in more people getting involved. > >Larry Evans > >At 02:20 PM 4/5/2010, you wrote: > >Steve - I also get a lot of posts where the original message is missing and > >you don't know where the thread originated. That has been happening for a > >long time. > > > >Larry Anger > >163926 Brownsville Rd. > >R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario > >Canada N4G 4G8 > >Larry Evans >MailTo:LFEVANS at pacbell.net >http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2793 - Release Date: >04/05/10 18:32:00 Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From langer5 at xplornet.ca Mon Apr 5 19:48:55 2010 From: langer5 at xplornet.ca (Larry Anger) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:48:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com><6.0.1.1.2.20100405161752.04419ac8@pop.att.yahoo.com> <20100406013947.0055792E4@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <2DD446D75DB84BCDBFB0A1BDB001FAF4@larryf92159205> I didn't even get my own message back through the list so I don't have any idea what is happening. Larry Anger 163926 Brownsville Rd. R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario Canada N4G 4G8 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Shulaw" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing >I already thought of this but I am on both lists. So bust on that idea. >Mark > > At 07:27 PM 4/5/2010, you wrote: >>Larry, >> >>I think that what is happening is that some folks that are on both this >>and >>Jim Dunmyer's list on OldEngine.org might send a reply to both lists to a >>message that appeared originally on just one list. It can be confusing but >>probably results in more people getting involved. >> >>Larry Evans >> >>At 02:20 PM 4/5/2010, you wrote: >> >Steve - I also get a lot of posts where the original message is missing >> >and >> >you don't know where the thread originated. That has been happening for >> >a >> >long time. >> > >> >Larry Anger >> >163926 Brownsville Rd. >> >R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario >> >Canada N4G 4G8 >> >>Larry Evans >>MailTo:LFEVANS at pacbell.net >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2793 - Release Date: >>04/05/10 18:32:00 > > > Mark Shulaw > 454 County Road 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Mon Apr 5 20:54:10 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 23:54:10 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: <2DD446D75DB84BCDBFB0A1BDB001FAF4@larryf92159205> References: <20100405171359.CDC759286@smtp.wcoil.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20100405161752.04419ac8@pop.att.yahoo.com> <20100406013947.0055792E4@smtp.wcoil.com> <2DD446D75DB84BCDBFB0A1BDB001FAF4@larryf92159205> Message-ID: <1F5F6391-DC9E-4313-92AE-B2D853DB3A1E@me.com> Damn, ANOTHER democrat! Dave On Apr 5, 2010, at 10:48 PM, Larry Anger wrote: > I don't have any > idea what is happening. > > Larry Anger From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Apr 6 06:54:41 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:54:41 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: <7AE2B73C29054B82BC3882B5EB20A5BE@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O> Message-ID: Steve: Don't let that Scot sweet talk you into sending your McVicker overseas! Not for all the haggis in Scotland, I say! Instead, send it to me here in the good 'ol Redneck Riviera where I will fully appreciate it. The most important reason is so I can study it for my version, The McVickerish Engine. Make sure you crate it securely and email the tracking number as soon as the truck leaves so I'll have some idea of when it will arrive. Thank you so much for showing such kindness to a fellow Collector of Oddball Iron. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of craig > morrison > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 03:36 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > Steve, > If you want to give some engines away > just put the National > Engineering and something else that's really nice > in one of that steel > crates that Mike has and ship them to Scotland, > where they will be very well > cared for . > Cheers, Craig. > P.S; I'll PM you my details so you can ship them > safely without Mike > knowing. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Royster" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:59 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > > > Geee whizzz, I'm getting all teary eyed, I can > just feel the love from all > > my pals on the list! , It makes me want to give > away rare engines. > > Steve, the good Royster From marinesurveys at msn.com Tue Apr 6 06:59:12 2010 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 09:59:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: References: <7AE2B73C29054B82BC3882B5EB20A5BE@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>, Message-ID: Hey Elden; I recieved the simpson book & thanks, the other one I didnt have a meter for, should I return that one? Many thanks Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: edurand at mchsi.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:54:41 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > Steve: > > Don't let that Scot sweet talk you into sending your McVicker overseas! Not for all the haggis in Scotland, I say! > > Instead, send it to me here in the good 'ol Redneck Riviera where I will fully appreciate it. The most important reason is so I can study it for my version, The McVickerish Engine. > > Make sure you crate it securely and email the tracking number as soon as the truck leaves so I'll have some idea of when it will arrive. > > Thank you so much for showing such kindness to a fellow Collector of Oddball Iron. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of craig > > morrison > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 03:36 PM > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > > > Steve, > > If you want to give some engines away > > just put the National > > Engineering and something else that's really nice > > in one of that steel > > crates that Mike has and ship them to Scotland, > > where they will be very well > > cared for . > > Cheers, Craig. > > P.S; I'll PM you my details so you can ship them > > safely without Mike > > knowing. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steve Royster" > > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:59 PM > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > > > > > > > Geee whizzz, I'm getting all teary eyed, I can > > just feel the love from all > > > my pals on the list! , It makes me want to give > > away rare engines. > > > Steve, the good Royster > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From steve_royster at hotmail.com Tue Apr 6 08:44:30 2010 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:44:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: References: <7AE2B73C29054B82BC3882B5EB20A5BE@OWNER2M2YK7Y6O>, Message-ID: Don't worry Elden, Scotland will never see that engine. As it is Craig has so much Iron accumulated that I fear it will break off and sink into the sea. To restore world balance, he should be sending iron back to the USA! Steve > From: edurand at mchsi.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:54:41 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > Steve: > > Don't let that Scot sweet talk you into sending your McVicker overseas! Not for all the haggis in Scotland, I say! > > Instead, send it to me here in the good 'ol Redneck Riviera where I will fully appreciate it. The most important reason is so I can study it for my version, The McVickerish Engine. > > Make sure you crate it securely and email the tracking number as soon as the truck leaves so I'll have some idea of when it will arrive. > > Thank you so much for showing such kindness to a fellow Collector of Oddball Iron. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of craig > > morrison > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 03:36 PM > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > > > Steve, > > If you want to give some engines away > > just put the National > > Engineering and something else that's really nice > > in one of that steel > > crates that Mike has and ship them to Scotland, > > where they will be very well > > cared for . > > Cheers, Craig. > > P.S; I'll PM you my details so you can ship them > > safely without Mike > > knowing. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steve Royster" > > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:59 PM > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > > > > > > > Geee whizzz, I'm getting all teary eyed, I can > > just feel the love from all > > > my pals on the list! , It makes me want to give > > away rare engines. > > > Steve, the good Royster > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Apr 6 10:03:15 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 19:03:15 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100406185624.00ceddf0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 06/04/2010, you wrote: >Message: 12 >Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:20:48 -0400 >From: "Larry Anger" >Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >Steve - I also get a lot of posts where the original message is missing and >you don't know where the thread originated. That has been happening for a >long time. > >Larry Anger Hi Larry (and all), That does occasionally happen to me (but more often on the "Oldengine list"). I only get the Digest version of this (S.E.L.) list so often topics are already sorted out before I get it (like this one). My affliction (verbal diarrhea) still makes me post useless posts like this one :-) even "after the fact" Keep well Guys 'n Gals Jerry From rotigel at me.com Tue Apr 6 13:52:39 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:52:39 -0400 Subject: [SEL] John Cullom??????/Galloway List Message-ID: I need John Cullom's e-address and/or his snail. Any help will be appreciated! he needs to see/record the guarantee at: http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=35634 Dave From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Apr 6 17:42:27 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 19:42:27 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Frank: I'm glad you have a use for the manual but you have to keep (or dispose of) the other one. I really don't need to have it back. Enjoy! Take care - Elden > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of frank > skinner > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 08:59 AM > To: AA_OLD ENGINE > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > Hey Elden; > > I recieved the simpson book & thanks, the other > one I didnt have a meter for, > > should I return that one? From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Apr 6 17:46:08 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 19:46:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Now, Steve, You need to remember that the center of gravity is too far north and, to save the earth from tipping over (not to mention globular warming), that engine needs to be down here so we can restore the precious balance. I'm waiting. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Steve > Royster > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:45 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > Don't worry Elden, Scotland will never see that > engine. As it is Craig has so much Iron > accumulated that I fear it will break off and > sink into the sea. To restore world balance, he > should be sending iron back to the USA! Steve > > > From: edurand at mchsi.com > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:54:41 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > Steve: > > > > Don't let that Scot sweet talk you into sending > your McVicker overseas! Not for all the haggis in > Scotland, I say! > > > > Instead, send it to me here in the good 'ol > Redneck Riviera where I will fully appreciate it. > The most important reason is so I can study it > for my version, The McVickerish Engine. > > > > Make sure you crate it securely and email the > tracking number as soon as the truck leaves so > I'll have some idea of when it will arrive. > > > > Thank you so much for showing such kindness to > a fellow Collector of Oddball Iron. > > > > Take care - Elden > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > > Behalf Of craig > > > morrison > > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 03:36 PM > > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > > > > > > Steve, > > > If you want to give some engines away > > > just put the National > > > Engineering and something else that's really nice > > > in one of that steel > > > crates that Mike has and ship them to Scotland, > > > where they will be very well > > > cared for . > > > Cheers, Craig. > > > P.S; I'll PM you my details so you can ship them > > > safely without Mike > > > knowing. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Steve Royster" > > > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:59 PM > > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Delays in posts Appearing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geee whizzz, I'm getting all teary eyed, I can > > > just feel the love from all > > > > my pals on the list! , It makes me want to give > > > away rare engines. > > > > Steve, the good Royster > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > __________________________________________________ > _______________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New > Busy. Get more from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?oci d=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From oldironnut at windstream.net Wed Apr 7 06:14:19 2010 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:14:19 -0400 Subject: [SEL] John Cullom??????/Galloway List In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <58555037-B0A9-4AFA-9020-2D822A202D7D@windstream.net> Dave, Assuming he's still living at the same place as he was when I visited him ~10 years ago his snail is: 1606 Exeter Rd Westminster, MD 21157 I also did a search at anywho.com for him and thats the address that came up and it maps to the same house that I visited. Sorry, I don't have his email. See ya', Mike On Apr 6, 2010, at 4:52 PM, David Rotigel wrote: > I need John Cullom's e-address and/or his snail. Any help will be > appreciated! he needs to see/record the guarantee at: http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=35634 > Dave ______________________ Michael Tucker oldironnut at windstream.net Versailles, Kentucky, USA ______________________ From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 06:36:40 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:36:40 +0100 Subject: [SEL] John Cullom??????/Galloway List In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6 April 2010 21:52, David Rotigel wrote: > I need John Cullom's e-address and/or his snail. Any help will be > appreciated! he needs to see/record the guarantee at: http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=35634 > ? ? ? ?Dave Try this one. Dave: jcullom at adelphia.net Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Apr 7 20:49:55 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:49:55 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New engine cart Message-ID: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> Hi all. The cart for the 12 hp headless Witte is finished except for sandblasting and painting. This one has automobile type steering that was inspired by a picture posted on oldengine. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/WitteCart# You may have to add the # symbol on the end. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ 2550% Penny Stock Gains? Our last pick exploded 2550% - Join our newsletter for free picks! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bbd5295c65e316d5fast02vuc From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Apr 7 21:12:42 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:12:42 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New engine cart In-Reply-To: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <327B064E-7BC3-410F-8D58-96014DDB59A2@rustyiron.com> On Apr 7, 2010, at 8:49 PM, rdhaskell wrote: > Hi all. > The cart for the 12 hp headless Witte is finished except for > sandblasting > and painting. This one has automobile type steering that was > inspired by > a picture posted on oldengine. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/WitteCart# Fancy metal workin' there, Ron. Will she be ready for next week? Rob From FRM8198 at aol.com Wed Apr 7 21:40:04 2010 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:40:04 EDT Subject: [SEL] New engine cart Message-ID: <41f6b.27289561.38eeb824@aol.com> Thanks for sharing. Francis In a message dated 4/7/2010 8:52:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rdhaskell at juno.com writes: The cart for the 12 hp headless Witte is finished except for sandblasting and painting From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Apr 8 04:29:35 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 07:29:35 EDT Subject: [SEL] New engine cart Message-ID: <79cd.e53ea26.38ef181f@aol.com> Hey Ron, That is a lot of nice work there. What are all the stickers on the wheels, store bar codes? Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From winkandginger at aol.com Thu Apr 8 06:04:31 2010 From: winkandginger at aol.com (winkandginger at aol.com) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:04:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] New engine cart In-Reply-To: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <8CCA53329911BB2-62C-1CB0@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> Another example of your quality workmanship! Wink -----Original Message----- From: rdhaskell To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org Sent: Wed, Apr 7, 2010 8:49 pm Subject: [SEL] New engine cart Hi all. The cart for the 12 hp headless Witte is finished except for sandblasting and painting. This one has automobile type steering that was inspired by a picture posted on oldengine. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/WitteCart# You may have to add the # symbol on the end. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ 2550% Penny Stock Gains? Our last pick exploded 2550% - Join our newsletter for free picks! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bbd5295c65e316d5fast02vuc _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frappi at wcoil.com Thu Apr 8 07:10:37 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:10:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coal Mines Message-ID: <20100408141032.396F4938F@smtp.wcoil.com> Do we have any fellow iron collectors connected with the mine accident in Whitesville West Virginia? Mark Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 USA 419.358.5206 From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Apr 8 07:21:42 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 07:21:42 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New engine cart In-Reply-To: <8CCA53329911BB2-62C-1CB0@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> References: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> <8CCA53329911BB2-62C-1CB0@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Apr 8, 2010, at 6:04 AM, WinkAndGinger at aol.com wrote: > Another example of your quality workmanship! > > Wink Hey, Wink. Will you and your bride be coming down from the hills next week? Dick & Maureen will be making breakfast, if you get up early enough. From jlb94 at juno.com Thu Apr 8 07:53:02 2010 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:53:02 GMT Subject: [SEL] New engine cart Message-ID: <20100408.105302.18845.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com> Excellent job, Ron. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Be kinder than necessary - - - (_o_) everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: rdhaskell To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com, stationary-engine at oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] New engine cart Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:49:55 -0700 Hi all. The cart for the 12 hp headless Witte is finished except for sandblasting and painting. This one has automobile type steering that was inspired by a picture posted on oldengine. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/WitteCart# You may have to add the # symbol on the end. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ 2550% Penny Stock Gains? Our last pick exploded 2550% - Join our newsletter for free picks! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bbd5295c65e316d5fast02vuc _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frappi at wcoil.com Thu Apr 8 07:55:41 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:55:41 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Delays in Posts appearing In-Reply-To: <20100408141032.396F4938F@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20100408141032.396F4938F@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <20100408145536.16280938F@smtp.wcoil.com> The coal mine post is another example of delays in posts appearing. I sent two notes one to the SEL the other to Old Engines at the same time. The post to Old Engines appeared within 2 minutes, the SEL post did not return for about 40 minutes. Mark At 10:10 AM 4/8/2010, you wrote: >Do we have any fellow iron collectors connected with the mine >accident in Whitesville West Virginia? Mark > > > >Mark & Christine Shulaw >Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 >USA >419.358.5206 Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 USA 419.358.5206 From kosh at ncweb.com Thu Apr 8 08:14:47 2010 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 11:14:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Coal Mines In-Reply-To: <20100408141032.396F4938F@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20100408111127.0dcb2540@ncweb.com> I have a couple friends that work underground in southern Ohio. Makes you think. Note, all mines tend to have a large number of violations at any given time. Most are nit-picky, but handy to bring up to put the blame on the owners at times like this. Dave Merchant At 10:10 AM 4/8/2010, you wrote: >Do we have any fellow iron collectors connected with the mine >accident in Whitesville West Virginia? Mark > > > >Mark & Christine Shulaw >Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 >USA >419.358.5206 > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline." - Prof. Phil Jones - Director, Climatic Research Unit - School of Environmental Sciences - University of East Anglia - Norwich, UK - To: Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley, Malcolm Hughes From rdhaskell at juno.com Thu Apr 8 08:39:22 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:39:22 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New engine cart Message-ID: <20100408.083924.1000.40157@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> Thanks Tom. The stickers are masking tape with vital measurements of the wheels on them. They listed the width of each hub from center and the width of the rim. The castings were not even close to being the same size. Had to really pay attention to what I was doing. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 07:29:35 EDT Germoamer at aol.com writes: > Hey Ron, > > That is a lot of nice work there. What are all the stickers on the > > wheels, store bar codes? > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com ____________________________________________________________ "Your Government Bailout" USA Gov gave billions to stimulate economy & relieve DEBT. Claim yours http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bbdf8c1a40b917d7e8st02vuc From winkandginger at aol.com Thu Apr 8 09:23:12 2010 From: winkandginger at aol.com (winkandginger at aol.com) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 12:23:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] New engine cart In-Reply-To: References: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com><8CCA53329911BB2-62C-1CB0@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CCA54EEB29CC42-2348-4EDF@webmail-d037.sysops.aol.com> Hey Rob, We intend to "come off the hills" to attend Tulare if we can get someone to watch the animals. ......wonder if all that iron in Tulare Kalifornia will effect the balance? Wink -----Original Message----- From: Rob Skinner To: The SEL email discussion list Sent: Thu, Apr 8, 2010 7:21 am Subject: Re: [SEL] New engine cart On Apr 8, 2010, at 6:04 AM, WinkAndGinger at aol.com wrote: > Another example of your quality workmanship! > > Wink Hey, Wink. Will you and your bride be coming down from the hills next week? Dick & Maureen will be making breakfast, if you get up early enough. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From r7734g at hotmail.com Thu Apr 8 09:31:28 2010 From: r7734g at hotmail.com (Ron Gerlach) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:31:28 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New engine cart In-Reply-To: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Ron Excellent design and implementation! RonG > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:49:55 -0700 > From: rdhaskell at juno.com > Subject: [SEL] New engine cart > > Hi all. > The cart for the 12 hp headless Witte is finished except for sandblasting > and painting. This one has automobile type steering that was inspired by > a picture posted on oldengine. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/WitteCart# > > You may have to add the # symbol on the end. > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > ____________________________________________________________ > 2550% Penny Stock Gains? > Our last pick exploded 2550% - Join our newsletter for free picks! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bbd5295c65e316d5fast02vuc > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From George_Best at adp.com Thu Apr 8 09:43:04 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 11:43:04 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Tulare show In-Reply-To: <8CCA54EEB29CC42-2348-4EDF@webmail-d037.sysops.aol.com> References: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com><8CCA53329911BB2-62C-1CB0@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> <8CCA54EEB29CC42-2348-4EDF@webmail-d037.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39F09D8F@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Next week at this time I'll be on the road on my way to Tulare. Its been a few years since I last attended the Tulare show, so I'm really looking forward to being there again. Will probably stop Thursday afternoon and Friday morning to visit a few collectors on the way down and breakup the 800+ miles each way trip. I know several members of the SEL list regularly attend this show and expect to see them there. Just wondering if there are any first timers going to Tulare? I'll be set up with Branch 27 as I have in the past and am planning on bringing my 3hp Gade. Mostly because it fits in the back of the pickup and I won't need to pull a trailer that far although I've done it many times. George This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From rotigel at me.com Thu Apr 8 11:13:29 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 14:13:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] New engine cart In-Reply-To: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Very, VEry, VERy, VERY nice! Dave On Apr 7, 2010, at 11:49 PM, rdhaskell wrote: > Hi all. > The cart for the 12 hp headless Witte is finished except for > sandblasting > and painting. This one has automobile type steering that was > inspired by > a picture posted on oldengine. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/WitteCart# > > You may have to add the # symbol on the end. > > Ron Haskell From rdhaskell at juno.com Thu Apr 8 13:40:26 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:40:26 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New engine cart Message-ID: <20100408.134036.5900.395082@mailpop02.vgs.untd.com> Thanks Dave. The different front axle was a challenge. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 14:13:29 -0400 David Rotigel writes: > Very, VEry, VERy, VERY nice! > Dave ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bbe3f5517d4516b2a8st04vuc From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Apr 8 17:39:40 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:39:40 -0700 Subject: [SEL] New engine cart In-Reply-To: <8CCA54EEB29CC42-2348-4EDF@webmail-d037.sysops.aol.com> References: <20100407.205015.965.104448@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com><8CCA53329911BB2-62C-1CB0@webmail-m052.sysops.aol.com> <8CCA54EEB29CC42-2348-4EDF@webmail-d037.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <81B1B2C6-4C56-4587-8C93-2784F6E219D0@rustyiron.com> On Apr 8, 2010, at 9:23 AM, WinkAndGinger at aol.com wrote: > > ......wonder if all that iron in Tulare Kalifornia will effect the > balance? > Most of the people attending Tulare are VERY unbalanced. From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Apr 9 06:13:47 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 09:13:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spencer Yost In-Reply-To: <20100408145536.16280938F@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20100408141032.396F4938F@smtp.wcoil.com> <20100408145536.16280938F@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <20100409131341.F0DE392C9@smtp.wcoil.com> Does anyone know whats up with Spencer? Is he on vacation or off to a show? Sent him an email through Atis to the yostsw at atis.net address a couple days ago and no work back yet. Thanks, Mark Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From George_Best at adp.com Fri Apr 9 08:19:32 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:19:32 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Spencer Yost In-Reply-To: <20100409131341.F0DE392C9@smtp.wcoil.com> References: <20100408141032.396F4938F@smtp.wcoil.com> <20100408145536.16280938F@smtp.wcoil.com> <20100409131341.F0DE392C9@smtp.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39F56126@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> I don't know as Spencer doesn't answer my emails, but I think he is too busy with his work and possibly other family issues. In any case he doesn't seem to have any time for this hobby and is no longer actively involved with this list or even the forums he set up and doesn't support. I was a strong supporter of the forums he set up until his latest changes around Christmas. He has only addressed one problem the forum had and then disappeared again. Not very good at supporting his forums. I've basically given up on him. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark Shulaw Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:14 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Spencer Yost Does anyone know whats up with Spencer? Is he on vacation or off to a show? Sent him an email through Atis to the yostsw at atis.net address a couple days ago and no work back yet. Thanks, Mark Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From curt at rustyiron.com Fri Apr 9 08:57:15 2010 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:57:15 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4a2a117890454ca806267f0d27ea721b.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Rick, Can't really tell from the link which part you are trying to make, but I've had very good success laser cutting spring steel. This will work up to about 1/4" thick on most laser machines. Here is a thinner part I has cut from blued spring steel. Wire EDM also works great, you just can't do holes like you can w/ laser. Curt Holland > Need some help gang. How does one cut/form flat plate spring steel? We > need one for the dog on the ratchet that advances the bolt of wood on our > shingle mill. > > Pix at; > > http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2794526910039077051PBYOMo > > "Thanks for looking" > > RickinMt. > > PS: Thinking about using the flat stock off an ole putty knife ???? > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Apr 9 09:54:41 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:54:41 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spencer Yost In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39F56126@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad .adp.com> References: <20100408141032.396F4938F@smtp.wcoil.com> <20100408145536.16280938F@smtp.wcoil.com> <20100409131341.F0DE392C9@smtp.wcoil.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F39F56126@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <20100409165441.E9615920B@smtp.wcoil.com> Hi George, Thanks for the info. I hope the issues he has is not family or health related just job maybe. I take it then that since you didn't mention anyone else you do not know of anyone else to contact to deal with list issues? Thanks, Mark At 11:19 AM 4/9/2010, you wrote: >I don't know as Spencer doesn't answer my emails, but I think he is >too busy with his work and possibly other family issues. In any >case he doesn't seem to have any time for this hobby and is no >longer actively involved with this list or even the forums he set up >and doesn't support. > >I was a strong supporter of the forums he set up until his latest >changes around Christmas. He has only addressed one problem the >forum had and then disappeared again. Not very good at supporting >his forums. I've basically given up on him. > >George > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark Shulaw >Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:14 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: [SEL] Spencer Yost > >Does anyone know whats up with Spencer? Is he on vacation or off to a >show? Sent him an email through Atis to the >yostsw at atis.net address a couple days ago and no work back >yet. Thanks, Mark > > > > > > >Mark Shulaw >454 County Road 33 >Bluffton, OH. 45817 >USA > >Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. >Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. >VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of >the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and >confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended >recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, >you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication >is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in >error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message >and any attachments from your system. > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2800 - Release Date: >04/09/10 06:32:00 Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From christison at coastalnet.com Sun Apr 11 05:51:40 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:51:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Great read. In-Reply-To: <4BC12263.7040007@coastalnet.com> References: <4BC12263.7040007@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: <4BC1C5DC.1010400@coastalnet.com> In case anyone is confused by the page I sent a link to, this is a download page to volume 33 of Cassier's Magazine. It is a .pdf file of about 90mb. Just click on the "download" button to get it. There are some really neat pictures and articles on large power plants especially, and includes examples in the UK, US, and Australia. Take care. Ken Ken Christison wrote: > Here is a great book to download free in google books A lot of great > pictures > and info and history, (up to 1908) Might be a little large download > for dial-up > since it is a little under 90MB in size. > > Just go to: http://books.google.com/books?id=gJQEAAAAYAAJ to download. > > From christison at coastalnet.com Sun Apr 11 05:56:56 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:56:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Great read.- oops! In-Reply-To: <4BC1C5DC.1010400@coastalnet.com> References: <4BC12263.7040007@coastalnet.com> <4BC1C5DC.1010400@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: <4BC1C718.4030203@coastalnet.com> I just noticed the "button" is for reading online. There is a link to download the PDF file just below the button. Sorry for the confusion. Remember, I am almost as old as Dave;-) Ken Ken Christison wrote: > In case anyone is confused by the page I sent a link to, this is a > download page > to volume 33 of Cassier's Magazine. It is a .pdf file of about 90mb. > Just click > on the "download" button to get it. There are some really neat > pictures and > articles on large power plants especially, and includes examples in > the UK, US, > and Australia. > > Take care. > > Ken > > Ken Christison wrote: >> Here is a great book to download free in google books A lot of >> great pictures >> and info and history, (up to 1908) Might be a little large download >> for dial-up >> since it is a little under 90MB in size. >> >> Just go to: http://books.google.com/books?id=gJQEAAAAYAAJ to download. >> >> > > > To UN-subscribe, send a message to: > > stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org > with: > unsubscribe > in the subject of the message. Nothing else, no SIGs, etc. > > From rob at rustyiron.com Sun Apr 11 07:31:42 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:31:42 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Great read. In-Reply-To: <4BC1C5DC.1010400@coastalnet.com> References: <4BC12263.7040007@coastalnet.com> <4BC1C5DC.1010400@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: On Apr 11, 2010, at 5:51 AM, Ken Christison wrote: > In case anyone is confused by the page I sent a link to, this is a > download page > to volume 33 of Cassier's Magazine. It is a .pdf file of about > 90mb. Just click > on the "download" button to get it. There are some really neat > pictures and > articles on large power plants especially, and includes examples in > the UK, US, > and Australia. That's really cool, Ken. I have a modest collection of Cassier's magazines, and originals don't come cheaply. It's amazing that Google goes to all the trouble to scan these, and make them available to everyone. When people and governments demonize Google, they're railing against the benefits that we are enjoying right now. On page 74 (74 of the scans, not necessarily page 74 of the magazines) there is an article titled, "The Development of the Large Gas Engine in America." Good stuff... From rotigel at me.com Sun Apr 11 21:12:42 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 00:12:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Great read.- oops! In-Reply-To: <4BC1C718.4030203@coastalnet.com> References: <4BC12263.7040007@coastalnet.com> <4BC1C5DC.1010400@coastalnet.com> <4BC1C718.4030203@coastalnet.com> Message-ID: <483BE7C3-0CE0-4F7A-B72C-F1A71E2EBC9D@me.com> That's a bunch of CRAP Ken, and you know it. You don't look a day over 86! Dave On Apr 11, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Ken Christison wrote: > > Sorry for the confusion. Remember, I am almost as old as Dave;-) > > Ken From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Mon Apr 12 15:21:39 2010 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:21:39 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Sad News References: <004d01cada3e$3ab10e30$b0132a90$@co.uk> Message-ID: WOW, Steve what upsetting news. I will be praying for Arnie and his family and asking the Good Lord to be with Arnie and help him get through this.....I am reminded of a verse on the Bible that says "Life is but a vapor, here today and gone tomorrow". How true it is. Lately even my mortality has been weighing on my mind and I feel a need more than ever to be sure that each day I try and brighten someone's world with a kind deed, kind word, or kind thought. With that being said I want to tell all of my engine friends how much I appreciate each of you and that you will never know what an impact you have had on my life. Arnie I am so sorry my friend, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Kinney To: Steve Royster Cc: bert juffer ; craig morrison ; Curt Holland ; george best ; harry terpsrtra ; Holland Missy ; Joe Prindle ; johnny nuttin ; larry anger ; Luke Tonneberger ; Nev Beaty ; paulmaples at sbcglobal.net ; Steve Barr Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:28 AM Subject: Re: Sad News Steve Shocking news, how tragic. Please let us know if you hear more about the arrangements. Thanks for letting us know. Keith On Apr 12, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Steve Royster wrote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: helen at insulate.co.uk To: rotigel at me.com; swebre at hotmail.com; melwebre at hotmail.com; rob at rustyiron.com; kgarcia at rustyiron.com; randmingold at hotkey.net.au; ozengine at optusnet.com.au;mr at carolina.rr.com; steve_royster at hotmail.com; oldironnut at windstream.net; sltucker4 at windstream.net Subject: Sad News Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:46:53 +0100 Folks, Please pass this news on as you think fit ? I?m sure I?ve left some people out. I just heard that Arnie?s wife, Nancy, passed away last night. It was very sudden, and very unexpected ? a complication from her long term illness, probably. I rang Arnie, and he?s in shock, understandably. He?s not had time to make any arrangements yet, but I thought his closest friends should know. Dolly -- Helen French helen at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.dollyfrench.com/ http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm http://freespace.virgin.net/french.bros/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Learn more. Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From gastzt at aol.com Mon Apr 12 16:42:10 2010 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:42:10 EDT Subject: [SEL] Sad News Message-ID: <23e66.1cedf3bd.38f509d2@aol.com> OH MY GOSH---- read the sad news---thanks Paul! By the way----are you any kin to Hugh Maples----Seguin, Texas? Electrician friend of mine----! Thanks again Stan Zettner (Old Stovers, Pleasanton, Texas) I know I have not met a lot of you guys, but feel like I knew ya'll forever! From Germoamer at aol.com Mon Apr 12 17:03:09 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:03:09 EDT Subject: [SEL] Sad News Message-ID: <5eff4.5868d483.38f50ebd@aol.com> I am very sorry to hear of the sudden passing of Arnie's wife. May God be with him in these times. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. _germoamer at AOL.com_ (mailto:germoamer at AOL.com) On a different note, I now seem to be missing the initial emails about some posts, the latest being this one. I did not get Ken Christison's latest one either. From rex002 at centurytel.net Mon Apr 12 17:28:20 2010 From: rex002 at centurytel.net (Rex Hinz) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:28:20 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Sad News References: <23e66.1cedf3bd.38f509d2@aol.com> Message-ID: <4BB77238FEB34EAC84A666DFD4823FF4@homebase> Very sad news indeed , My thoughts prayers are with Arnie and His family From langer5 at xplornet.ca Mon Apr 12 18:00:53 2010 From: langer5 at xplornet.ca (Larry Anger) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:00:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Sad News References: <5eff4.5868d483.38f50ebd@aol.com> Message-ID: <26B285E8FDEC40BBA6C373FFC9FE1C3A@larryf92159205> Arnie - I'm totally shocked to hear of Nancy's passing. I ask that God give you strength at this time to deal with all the details and for the days and weeks ahead to comfort you when all seems hopeless! Tom - I don't get the initial emails from the list either, only responses from other members. My server must somehow be blocking these emails. I don't get my own emails to the list back either for some reason. Larry Anger 163926 Brownsville Rd. R.R. 3 Tillsonburg, Ontario Canada N4G 4G8 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Sad News >I am very sorry to hear of the sudden passing of Arnie's wife. May God be > with him in these times. > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > _germoamer at AOL.com_ (mailto:germoamer at AOL.com) > > On a different note, I now seem to be missing the initial emails about > some > posts, the latest being this one. I did not get Ken Christison's latest > one either. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Mon Apr 12 18:49:31 2010 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:49:31 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Sad News References: <23e66.1cedf3bd.38f509d2@aol.com> Message-ID: <790114621C2E425E90CA41C5A9F5DCE8@PAUL> I don't know of any Hugh Maples but who knows? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Sad News > OH MY GOSH---- read the sad news---thanks Paul! > By the way----are you any kin to Hugh Maples----Seguin, Texas? > Electrician friend of mine----! Thanks again > Stan Zettner > (Old Stovers, Pleasanton, Texas) > I know I have not met a lot of you guys, but feel like I knew ya'll > forever! > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edstoller at earthlink.net Tue Apr 13 06:05:25 2010 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed Stoller) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 09:05:25 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Sad News References: <5eff4.5868d483.38f50ebd@aol.com> Message-ID: <91515400BAC649079C4D6F4A7DA89BC6@edlaptop> Arnie, When my first wife left me to join the communion of saints, it was on Holy Thursday. Her service was on the Monday after the great feast of the Resurrection , the only day of the year when the church will not use funeral prayers. So the priest used the prayers from the vigil of the Resurrection, we call it Pasca for Pass over, some say Easter. I think it was a way of the LORD reassuring me that she was with Him now. I hope you too can look forward to your own special saint. Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT, USA http:/home.earthlink.net/~estoller/ From FRM8198 at aol.com Tue Apr 13 17:39:53 2010 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:39:53 EDT Subject: [SEL] Tulare Show Message-ID: Here is the web site for the 2010 California Antique Farm Equipment Show, April 16 - 18. It will be held in Tulare at the International Agri-Center. _http://campaign.constantcontact.com/render?v=001907B4yRClb82fN8M5HbLRvcXYaA iug28xoZELHcyRyCaRcGgMOR6QzcgY8L31PWPmnkoZKK1e3_0JLSfpZLY0KUNerTN2KIeJ3XZAOy Lt6yW7nsTp729y2-zwbBBxeB-ZxNuvJN487g%3D_ (http://campaign.constantcontact.com/render?v=001907B4yRClb82fN8M5HbLRvcXYaAiug28xoZELHcyRyCaRcGgMOR6QzcgY8L31P WPmnkoZKK1e3_0JLSfpZLY0KUNerTN2KIeJ3XZAOyLt6yW7nsTp729y2-zwbBBxeB-ZxNuvJN487 g=) Francis Maciel 514 E. Taft Street Santa Maria, CA 93454 From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Wed Apr 14 06:26:16 2010 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:26:16 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Spring Steel In-Reply-To: <4a2a117890454ca806267f0d27ea721b.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> References: <4a2a117890454ca806267f0d27ea721b.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the info, Curt. I don't believe we have any laser cutters around here. Looks like my partner in crime has a handle on it tho. Regards RickinMt. PS: We haven't forgot about the Economy piston that we talked about a few months back. Just waiting for you to get settled in. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Spring Steel > > Rick, > Can't really tell from the link which part you are trying to make, but > I've had very good success laser cutting spring steel. This will work up > to about 1/4" thick on most laser machines. > Here is a thinner part I has cut from blued spring steel. > > Wire EDM also works great, you just can't do holes like you can w/ laser. > Curt Holland > > > > Need some help gang. How does one cut/form flat plate spring steel? We > > need one for the dog on the ratchet that advances the bolt of wood on > > our > > shingle mill. > > > > Pix at; > > > > http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2794526910039077051PBYOMo > > > > "Thanks for looking" > > > > RickinMt. > > > > PS: Thinking about using the flat stock off an ole putty knife ???? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Wed Apr 14 08:04:27 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:04:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Arnie's Wife, Nancy Message-ID: Hi All, I believe that by now most of you know that Arnie's wife, Nancy, passed away very unexpectedly last Sunday in the early morning hours. Arnie's daughters have been with him and the family is doing as well as can be expected. There will be a very informal memorial get- together for Nancy at Mark's Grill (925 Penn Ave.) Pittsburgh, PA from 5-8 on Thursday evening (April 15th.) The family has suggested that any donations in Nancy's name can be sent to either The Plum Food Pantry (81 Sand Dune Drive, Plum PA) or The Plum Library (445 Center-New Texas Rd. Plum Borough, PA 15239) Both of these institutions were very near and dear to Nancy and she spent a lot of time doing volunteer work with them . Arnie's home address is: Arnie Fero 7050 Leechburg Rd. New Kensington, PA 15068 His cell phone # is 412.848.6277 (Don't be surprised if one of his daughter's answers) Dave From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Apr 14 09:31:34 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:31:34 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100414181024.02f353f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi Everyone, I'll be etching a new batch of engine plates within the next 10 days or so. This post is just to ask list members if there is anyone who is waiting for plates and has not heard from me recently (or maybe needs some plates - now would be a good time to tell me). If so then please contact me "Off List" (use the address on this post). As many of you know, I only etch plates when I have a worthwhile batch to make. In the last 18 months or so this seems to have been every 3 to 4 months. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: P.S. There is still one gentleman (no names will be mentioned) on the list who won (and paid for) a plate (or was it a few plates) on the SEL Xmas Charity Auction a few years ago but he has not found the time to send me the details - I have not forgotten but he had better hurry up ! I do not intend to live forever...... :-) Maybe the engines he needed the plates for were "lifted" by those naughty Roysters after they had fed him a harmless "North Carolina Brew" :-) From steve_royster at hotmail.com Wed Apr 14 09:52:31 2010 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:52:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100414181024.02f353f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100414181024.02f353f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: >> Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates > >> P.S. There is still one gentleman > who won (and paid for) a plate (or was it a few plates) on the SEL Xmas > Charity Auction a few years ago but he has not found the time to send me > the details -> Hi Jerrry, Since you already have his money and I have sent my tag order, why not just apply his payment to my Tags until we are even. See how simple it is to do business with a Royster! Steve _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From b2 at chooka.net Wed Apr 14 11:40:03 2010 From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:40:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100414181024.02f353f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100414181024.02f353f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <000901cadc01$e568a940$b039fbc0$@net> Jerry has made several brass plates for me. For those of you who may not have seen the work that Jerry does, I can tell it is truly first class craftsmanship. You'll be proud to have his workmanship to finish out your project. If he ever moves into aluminum plates I'll have an order of those for him. But it sounds like the engine crowd is keeping him busy enough with the brass for now. All the best to ya, Jerry! Bill Brueck Pine Island, MN USA -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 11:32 AM To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates Hi Everyone, I'll be etching a new batch of engine plates within the next 10 days or so. This post is just to ask list members if there is anyone who is waiting for plates and has not heard from me recently (or maybe needs some plates - now would be a good time to tell me). If so then please contact me "Off List" (use the address on this post). As many of you know, I only etch plates when I have a worthwhile batch to make. In the last 18 months or so this seems to have been every 3 to 4 months. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: P.S. There is still one gentleman (no names will be mentioned) on the list who won (and paid for) a plate (or was it a few plates) on the SEL Xmas Charity Auction a few years ago but he has not found the time to send me the details - I have not forgotten but he had better hurry up ! I do not intend to live forever...... :-) Maybe the engines he needed the plates for were "lifted" by those naughty Roysters after they had fed him a harmless "North Carolina Brew" :-) _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Apr 14 18:55:11 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:55:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100414181024.02f353f0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <003301cadc3e$b2472310$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Jerry, I need a Lorenz plate! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Evans" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:31 PM Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates > Hi Everyone, > I'll be etching a new batch of engine plates within the next 10 > days or so. > > This post is just to ask list members if there is anyone who is > waiting for plates and has not heard from me recently (or maybe needs some > plates - now would be a good time to tell me). If so then please contact > me > "Off List" (use the address on this post). > > As many of you know, I only etch plates when I have a worthwhile > batch to make. In the last 18 months or so this seems to have been every 3 > to 4 months. > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > P.S. There is still one gentleman (no names will be mentioned) on the list > who won (and paid for) a plate (or was it a few plates) on the SEL Xmas > Charity Auction a few years ago but he has not found the time to send me > the details - I have not forgotten but he had better hurry up ! I do not > intend to live forever...... :-) > Maybe the engines he needed the plates for were "lifted" by those > naughty Roysters after they had fed him a harmless "North Carolina Brew" > :-) > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From cgandree at mchsi.com Thu Apr 15 02:40:55 2010 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 04:40:55 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates In-Reply-To: <003301cadc3e$b2472310$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Message-ID: <965508087.2485111271324455009.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Mike, Would you like me to take detailed pics of my Lorenz plate, or do you already have some? Curt Andree ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 8:55:11 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass engine plates Jerry, I need a Lorenz plate! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Evans" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:31 PM Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates > Hi Everyone, > I'll be etching a new batch of engine plates within the next 10 > days or so. > > This post is just to ask list members if there is anyone who is > waiting for plates and has not heard from me recently (or maybe needs some > plates - now would be a good time to tell me). If so then please contact > me > "Off List" (use the address on this post). > > As many of you know, I only etch plates when I have a worthwhile > batch to make. In the last 18 months or so this seems to have been every 3 > to 4 months. > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > P.S. There is still one gentleman (no names will be mentioned) on the list > who won (and paid for) a plate (or was it a few plates) on the SEL Xmas > Charity Auction a few years ago but he has not found the time to send me > the details - I have not forgotten but he had better hurry up ! I do not > intend to live forever...... :-) > Maybe the engines he needed the plates for were "lifted" by those > naughty Roysters after they had fed him a harmless "North Carolina Brew" > :-) > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 15 03:43:53 2010 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 06:43:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates References: <965508087.2485111271324455009.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs11> Message-ID: <000901cadc88$8b31f350$0201a8c0@mikecomp> Curt: Thank you for the kind offer, I appreciate your generosity. Fortunately I was able to get some good photos off of the ones we brought over from "the tour." I believe we can go with these but if not I may need you as backup. Thanks for offering! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:40 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass engine plates > Mike, > Would you like me to take detailed pics of my Lorenz plate, or do you > already have some? > Curt Andree > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Royster" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 8:55:11 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass engine plates > > Jerry, I need a Lorenz plate! > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Evans" > To: ; > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:31 PM > Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates > > >> Hi Everyone, >> I'll be etching a new batch of engine plates within the next 10 >> days or so. >> >> This post is just to ask list members if there is anyone who is >> waiting for plates and has not heard from me recently (or maybe needs >> some >> plates - now would be a good time to tell me). If so then please contact >> me >> "Off List" (use the address on this post). >> >> As many of you know, I only etch plates when I have a worthwhile >> batch to make. In the last 18 months or so this seems to have been every >> 3 >> to 4 months. >> >> Keep the revs up (or down) >> Jerry Evans >> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: >> >> >> P.S. There is still one gentleman (no names will be mentioned) on the >> list >> who won (and paid for) a plate (or was it a few plates) on the SEL Xmas >> Charity Auction a few years ago but he has not found the time to send me >> the details - I have not forgotten but he had better hurry up ! I do not >> intend to live forever...... :-) >> Maybe the engines he needed the plates for were "lifted" by those >> naughty Roysters after they had fed him a harmless "North Carolina Brew" >> :-) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 15 08:56:12 2010 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 08:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Gilson Catalog on eBay? Message-ID: <292951.77046.qm@web112607.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Who was asking about the Gilson catalog on eBay a while back? I think that the catalog you want was bought by my buddy Kevin Behnke, up in Wausau, WI. He will make you a copy of the pages you want if you contact him. Contact me off list for his contact details. Joe Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 15 11:09:57 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 13:09:57 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Tips 'n Tricks In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100219090420.00d08448@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: Here is one that I have seen used and it works as well as the "store bought" units. --------------------------------------------------- To test the cracking pressure of Diesel injectors without having to either pay to have an injection service shop do it or buy a "store bought" tester, you can do it the Redneck Way. Get a lever type grease gun (one of the big two-handed ones). Mount it so the "can" faces up. Remove the cartridge cap, cartridge piston and spring. THOROUGHLY clean the gun of grease and dirt. If I've described it right so far, you have the open end of the cartridge cylinder facing up. Remove the hose and zerk fitting. Add a street elbow and a close nipple. To this connect one end of a tee fitting and to the other end connect the adapter pipe to the injector you want to test. Into the center of the tee fitting, screw an appropriate hydraulic pressure gauge. To test an injector, - Loosely couple it to the adapter and fill the cartridge cylinder with good, -clean- Diesel fuel. - Pump the handle of the gun until the air is out of the line. - Tighten the adapter fitting to the injector under test. - Slowly pump the handle, noting the pressure when the injector cracks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's it, Jerry. I know you have the real thing but a lot of folks have to rely on a shop to do this simple test. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jerry Evans > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 02:37 AM > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; > sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Tips 'n Tricks > > > Hi everyone, > I need help again :-) > > On our club website > I have a section > called "Tips 'n Tricks". This is for any good > ideas/ shortcuts/workarounds > and the like. > > This is supposed to be supported by club > members but they seem to > be a pretty useless lot when it comes to > contributing to the web pages and > the only "Tip" up there so far is my "Gib Key Puller" > > > Now, seeing as that these lists are made > up of the greatest engine > people in the world (unashamed flattery/bribery > but true) I'm appealing to > you to members to help me fill the page. From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Apr 15 11:31:08 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:31:08 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100415200804.00cc0148@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 15/04/2010, you wrote: >Message: 2 >Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:52:31 -0400 >From: Steve Royster >Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass engine plates > >> Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates > > > >> P.S. There is still one gentleman > who won (and paid for) a plate (or > was it a few plates) on the SEL Xmas > > Charity Auction a few years ago but he has not found the time to send me > > the details -> > >Hi Jerrry, Since you already have his money and I have sent my tag order, >why not just apply his payment to my Tags until we are even. See how >simple it is to do business with a Royster! Steve Ha Ha Steve, What makes you think his money is enough to pay for your plate ?? :-) Actually his money was also paid to the charity auction - not me. I think I'll just keep the arrangements as they are - see how easy it is to deal with an Evans. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Apr 15 11:36:34 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:36:34 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100415203149.02c48998@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 15/04/2010, you wrote: >Message: 3 >Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:40:03 -0500 >From: "Bill Brueck" >Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass engine plates > > >Jerry has made several brass plates for me. For those of you who may not >have seen the work that Jerry does, I can tell it is truly first class >craftsmanship. You'll be proud to have his workmanship to finish out your >project. > >If he ever moves into aluminum plates I'll have an order of those for him. >But it sounds like the engine crowd is keeping him busy enough with the >brass for now. > >All the best to ya, Jerry! > >Bill Brueck > Pine Island, MN USA Thanks for the nice words Bill, Unfortunately no aluminium plates in the foreseeable future but I have not written them off, if I'm correct you wanted some for a JD. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Apr 15 11:38:23 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:38:23 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Brass engine plates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100415203655.00d0f308@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 15/04/2010, you wrote: >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:55:11 -0400 >From: "Mike Royster" >Subject: Re: [SEL] Brass engine plates > >Jerry, I need a Lorenz plate! >Mike Mike I have done one design for Lorenz but I do not think it's the same as yours. I'll send a pic "Off List" Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From Germoamer at aol.com Sun Apr 18 13:51:19 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 16:51:19 EDT Subject: [SEL] Prentiss vise Message-ID: <3ba2b.4c116278.38fccac7@aol.com> I took apart, cleaned, and ready to paint and old Prentiss vise, Model 181. Anybody have an idea as to the age? _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/vise.jpg_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/vise.jpg) Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From christison at coastalnet.com Sun Apr 18 14:19:13 2010 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:19:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Prentiss vise In-Reply-To: <3ba2b.4c116278.38fccac7@aol.com> References: <3ba2b.4c116278.38fccac7@aol.com> Message-ID: <4BCB7751.2000802@coastalnet.com> Hi Tom, I have it shown in two of my catalogs, 1920 and 1928 Take care. Ken Germoamer at aol.com wrote: > I took apart, cleaned, and ready to paint and old Prentiss vise, Model > 181. Anybody have an idea as to the age? > > _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/vise.jpg_ > (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/vise.jpg) > > > Thanks, > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > > From frappi at wcoil.com Sun Apr 18 20:16:56 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:16:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Engine in Allen Park Michigan Post Office Message-ID: <20100419031652.AB91D92ED@smtp.wcoil.com> Are there any engine collectors in Allen Park Michigan that can pick up a Briggs from the post office there? A buddy of mine (not on the list) shipped an engine and it got as far as there before some oil staining appeared on the box and the transport was halted by the postal service. He needs someone to get it before they pitch it. Can anyone help? Mark Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 USA 419.358.5206 From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 19 11:02:03 2010 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Bringing Iron Back From Canada Message-ID: <60461.44410.qm@web112609.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi, I am planning on going to an auction in Saskatchewan in July to try to buy a tractor or two. I have not been up that way for a while and am wondering if any of you have had any recent experience bringing big ticket items back from Canada and what those experiences are. Specifically, I am wondering about customs clearing at the boarder and what, if any, duty they charged. Thanks, Joe Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Apr 19 11:31:47 2010 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:31:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Bringing Iron Back From Canada In-Reply-To: <60461.44410.qm@web112609.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <60461.44410.qm@web112609.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100419183142.EA5A29330@smtp.wcoil.com> If it was made in the US and has a name tag on it to prove it easily on the spot you should not have any trouble bringing it back. And if you paid sales tax at the sale don't forget to file for your refund. What kinda tractor you after? Knowing that will help to determine what troubles you may have if any. If its foreign built and they realize that the US border guys might cause some trouble. It really depends on who your border agent is that you get and what they know or realize and if they got laid that night or not. So many variables. Mark At 02:02 PM 4/19/2010, you wrote: >Hi, >I am planning on going to an auction in Saskatchewan in July to try >to buy a tractor or two. I have not been up that way for a while and >am wondering if any of you have had any recent experience bringing >big ticket items back from Canada and what those experiences are. >Specifically, I am wondering about customs clearing at the boarder >and what, if any, duty they charged. >Thanks, >Joe > >Joe Prindle >Baraboo, WI USA >"All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." >Spike Milligan > > Mark Shulaw 454 County Road 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Apr 21 11:56:03 2010 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:56:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Thanks for All of the Support Message-ID: <6fed638873f2b27d29c0528bdccf3469.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Folks, I want to offer my deepest thanks to all of you who provided my daughters and me with messages of support and sympathy for the loss of my wife Nancy. Between the messages, emails, phone calls, cards, and food packages, it's been nearly overwhelming. It's been a real comfort to know that so many people are thinking of us. It has also been wonderful to read the small stories of how Nancy touched people's lives. Some of these stories I knew, but a great many I didn't know. Her mantra in life has always been "Because Nice Matters." She was a truly amazing woman and I miss her terribly. But with the love and support of Kerry and Courtney and friends, I'm well along the path of establishing a new "normal." Thanks again everyone! Arnie Arnie Fero Pittsburgh, PA fero_ah at city-net.com From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Apr 21 12:33:56 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:33:56 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100421201114.00d0f858@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi all you Guys and Gals out there, The lists are pretty quiet at the moment so I do not feel too bad about posting the following "Off Topic" question to the "Assembled Knowledge Base" out there (that's all of you). (Delete key is bottom right on most keyboards). I've recently being getting my office in order (this happens every 10 years or so - clean out the ashtrays - tidy the desk - get the filing sorted out - wash the floor etc. I'm sure you know the drill). My whole computer system is powered by a really big old UPS (Interruptible Power Supply). Nothing like these nice modern shoebox size UPS units. This one was bought on an auction about 18 years ago and used to power ICL's complete PABX telephone system. It is big - footprint of 300 x 350 mm and stands 660 mm high. Without looking at all the specs. It is basically a battery charger which charges 4 small motorcycle sized batteries (12 volt each = total 48 volts) and an inverter that takes this 48 volts from the batteries and supplies 220 volts to my computer. (There is a P.C. board inside it which does all of this). My problem at the moment is that the batteries need replacing and the unit is causing a "buzz" on my telephone which can get pretty annoying. The main purpose of a UPS is to be give the user a chance to backup his work and switch the computer off - I still have this, the UPS will still power the computer for at least 15 minutes (previously it was about 45 minutes) in case of a power failure. I had the same problem about 6 or 7 years ago and put new batteries into the UPS and this sorted out the "Buzz" on my phone.(This "buzz" is not only audible on my phone handset, the person on the other end of the call can also hear it). O.K. the above is the explanation so here are my questions: i) Right now, I cannot afford to replace the batteries in the UPS so my first question is: "Will it help if I move the UPS further away?" I could move it up to about 40' to 45' away and run a heavy extension cable to the computer. ii) The UPS supplies the power to my computer as well as my "DSL Router" (to which my telephone and computer is/are also connected). The "DSL Router" could be supplied with (dirty) power from another circuit in my workshop by means of an extension cable. This would be a different "Phase" of my 3 Phase power supply and the "DSL Router" does have a "filter and surge protector" between it and the power source. O.K. that's about all the info I can give you experts right now. (if needs be I could take the UPS apart and find other specs. but maybe I've given you enough info for now :-)) Apologies to list members to whom these questions mean nothing but I do know that there are members out there who can answer them - the lists are quiet at the moment so "what the heck". Thanks guys 'n gals for the help I always receive from these two very special lists. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. P.S. I'm totally STUPID when it comes to electronics - does it show ????? From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Apr 21 12:49:21 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:49:21 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Thanks for All of the Support In-Reply-To: <6fed638873f2b27d29c0528bdccf3469.squirrel@webmail.city-net .com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100421213705.04424138@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Dear Arnie, Although we have never met personally, we have become friends. Jacqui and I were devastated by the news as I'm sure other list members were. It's good to see a post from you again - We wish you only the best and remind you that we do "feel" for you in this terrible time. Words always fail me in cases like this. I know that anything I say cannot heal the hurt you are feeling so please just accept that you are thought of and constantly remembered. Jerry At 08:56 PM 21/04/2010, Arnie Fero wrote: >Folks, I want to offer my deepest thanks to all of you >who provided my daughters and me with messages of support >and sympathy for the loss of my wife Nancy. Between the >messages, emails, phone calls, cards, and food packages, >it's been nearly overwhelming. It's been a real comfort >to know that so many people are thinking of us. It has >also been wonderful to read the small stories of how Nancy >touched people's lives. Some of these stories I knew, >but a great many I didn't know. Her mantra in life has >always been "Because Nice Matters." She was a truly >amazing woman and I miss her terribly. But with the >love and support of Kerry and Courtney and friends, >I'm well along the path of establishing a new "normal." > >Thanks again everyone! > >Arnie > >Arnie Fero >Pittsburgh, PA >fero_ah at city-net.com > > > > >To UN-subscribe, send a message to: > >stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org >with: >unsubscribe >in the subject of the message. Nothing else, no SIGs, etc. From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Apr 21 12:55:49 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:55:49 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100421201114.00d0f858@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100421201114.00d0f858@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry, do you know any lift guys? Alarm guys? IT guys? On systems that matter, batteries get changed out long before they go bad. -- Rob Skinner On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Jerry Evans wrote: > I had the same problem about 6 or 7 years ago and put new > From blcksmth at wcnet.org Wed Apr 21 13:38:34 2010 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:38:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100421201114.00d0f858@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100421201114.00d0f858@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <26196A5EAEE44D7CA7CDC33181D611FC@Eagle> The buzz is probably from the charger having to supply a continuous high current to batteries that never reach a full charge which would normally then reduce the charge current to a small value to keep the batteries charged. I would guess that moving the UPS would not make much difference. Bob Willman The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW Bowling Green, Ohio America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. Abraham Lincoln -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:34 PM To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Hi all you Guys and Gals out there, The lists are pretty quiet at the moment so I do not feel too bad about posting the following "Off Topic" question to the "Assembled Knowledge Base" out there (that's all of you). (Delete key is bottom right on most keyboards). I've recently being getting my office in order (this happens every 10 years or so - clean out the ashtrays - tidy the desk - get the filing sorted out - wash the floor etc. I'm sure you know the drill). My whole computer system is powered by a really big old UPS (Interruptible Power Supply). Nothing like these nice modern shoebox size UPS units. This one was bought on an auction about 18 years ago and used to power ICL's complete PABX telephone system. It is big - footprint of 300 x 350 mm and stands 660 mm high. Without looking at all the specs. It is basically a battery charger which charges 4 small motorcycle sized batteries (12 volt each = total 48 volts) and an inverter that takes this 48 volts from the batteries and supplies 220 volts to my computer. (There is a P.C. board inside it which does all of this). My problem at the moment is that the batteries need replacing and the unit is causing a "buzz" on my telephone which can get pretty annoying. The main purpose of a UPS is to be give the user a chance to backup his work and switch the computer off - I still have this, the UPS will still power the computer for at least 15 minutes (previously it was about 45 minutes) in case of a power failure. I had the same problem about 6 or 7 years ago and put new batteries into the UPS and this sorted out the "Buzz" on my phone.(This "buzz" is not only audible on my phone handset, the person on the other end of the call can also hear it). O.K. the above is the explanation so here are my questions: i) Right now, I cannot afford to replace the batteries in the UPS so my first question is: "Will it help if I move the UPS further away?" I could move it up to about 40' to 45' away and run a heavy extension cable to the computer. ii) The UPS supplies the power to my computer as well as my "DSL Router" (to which my telephone and computer is/are also connected). The "DSL Router" could be supplied with (dirty) power from another circuit in my workshop by means of an extension cable. This would be a different "Phase" of my 3 Phase power supply and the "DSL Router" does have a "filter and surge protector" between it and the power source. O.K. that's about all the info I can give you experts right now. (if needs be I could take the UPS apart and find other specs. but maybe I've given you enough info for now :-)) Apologies to list members to whom these questions mean nothing but I do know that there are members out there who can answer them - the lists are quiet at the moment so "what the heck". Thanks guys 'n gals for the help I always receive from these two very special lists. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. P.S. I'm totally STUPID when it comes to electronics - does it show ????? _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Apr 21 14:30:47 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:30:47 EDT Subject: [SEL] Prentiss Vise update Message-ID: <2f1e4.28dd9f8e.3900c887@aol.com> Here are a couple of pictures of my vise after painting. The pipe jaws are removable and reversible. The face jaws are held on with an oversize 1/4-20 flat head countersunk machine screw. By oversize the thread diameter measures .264, which I think may have equate to a #14-20, a now obsolete thread. One of the screws was broken and so I found a socket head cap screw that had the same head diameter as the original screw. The taper is also unusual in that it is 140 degrees included. Longer screw is the cap screw I machined. Wonder what the 181-191 means on it? _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/vise2.jpg_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/vise2.jpg) _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/vise3.jpg_ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/vise3.jpg) _http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/vise4.jpg Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com _ (http://www.oldengine.org/members/schmutz/images/vise4.jpg) From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Apr 21 16:08:49 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:08:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Prentiss Vise update In-Reply-To: <2f1e4.28dd9f8e.3900c887@aol.com> Message-ID: Tom: I just scrapped an old vise that may have been a Prentiss. I saved the jaws and the one pipe jaw that were on it PLUS the screws. They look a LOT like the ones in your photo. If you want them, all it will cost you is whatever the postage will be. Let me know. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > Germoamer at aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 04:31 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Prentiss Vise update > > > Here are a couple of pictures of my vise after > painting. The pipe jaws > are removable and reversible. The face jaws are > held on with an oversize > 1/4-20 flat head countersunk machine screw. By > oversize the thread diameter > measures .264, which I think may have equate to a > #14-20, a now obsolete > thread. One of the screws was broken and so I > found a socket head cap screw > that had the same head diameter as the original > screw. The taper is also > unusual in that it is 140 degrees included. > Longer screw is the cap screw I > machined. From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Apr 21 16:32:58 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:32:58 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100421201114.00d0f858@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: I agree that moving the UPS most likely won't cure the problem. If the buzz is low pitched (at the power line frequency), the problem could be that the filter capacitors in the unit are losing capacity. If the buzz is high pitched, it could be that something has gone wonky with the charging circuit itself. The batteries should all have between 2.25 and 2.3 volts per cell or 13.5 volts and 13.8 volts per 12 volt battery while charging. That equates to between 54 volts and 55.2 volts for the complete battery pack. A clue as to whether the batteries are really going south is to see if any one or a small number of the cells are using a lot more water than the others. Instead of motorcycle batteries, any lead-acid battery can be used. They might not fit but you could use four of the little 12 volt lead-acid lawnmower batteries. Remember, Jerry - my advice is free and worth every bit you paid for it. :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jerry Evans > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 02:34 PM > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; > sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > ....................snippety, snip........................... > > My problem at the moment is that the > batteries need replacing and > the unit is causing a "buzz" on my telephone > which can get pretty annoying .......................snippety, snip...................... From rotigel at me.com Wed Apr 21 16:17:15 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:17:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <05CC8CD3-A51E-46B1-8A80-A8C4DA0DCB15@me.com> You are ABSOLUTELY WRONG on this Elden! Moving the UPS a goodly distance (Say 15,000-20,000 km) away would surly stop the buzz! Dave PS, Jerry, I'll be sending you a bill for my advice! On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Elden DuRand wrote: > Jerry: > > I agree that moving the UPS most likely won't cure the problem. > > Take care - Elden From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Apr 21 16:41:02 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:41:02 EDT Subject: [SEL] Prentiss Vise update Message-ID: <3432e.45f345dd.3900e70e@aol.com> Elden, Being one who has a hard time parting with apiece of scrap paper, I will be glad to give the stuff a home. Hopefully the screws will match and the vise will have a complete set of original ones. Tom Schmutz 1656 Beckham Rd. Concord, Va. 24538 _germoamer at AOL.com_ (mailto:germoamer at AOL.com) Let me know what the shipping is. Thanks, Tom From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Apr 21 17:45:07 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:45:07 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <05CC8CD3-A51E-46B1-8A80-A8C4DA0DCB15@me.com> Message-ID: Dave: I admit I was wrong in theory (big of me, ain't it?). You bein' a former college professor (philosophy, phrenology, crapology or somethin') I would expect an answer like that. The only problem is that with the size of wiring that would be required for that distance, the cost would most likely be in the multiple zillions of dollars (rand??!!) and getting the right-of-way would also be just a teensy problem. Only you could afford to do it that way - - - - BUT, you're too cheap! :-) Take care - Elden (just a dumb Kaintuck hick) http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand P.S.: Please send the bill to my address on Mars. Once I receive it, I will promptly remit in Martian Zabroznicks. > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of David > Rotigel > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 06:17 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > You are ABSOLUTELY WRONG on this Elden! Moving > the UPS a goodly > distance (Say 15,000-20,000 km) away would surly > stop the buzz! > Dave > PS, Jerry, I'll be sending you a bill for my advice! > > On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Elden DuRand wrote: > > > Jerry: > > > > I agree that moving the UPS most likely won't > cure the problem. From solarrog at pacbell.net Wed Apr 21 16:57:11 2010 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:57:11 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. References: Message-ID: <5F578396FDDD45A0A13EC90B31CAA157@D6R3D961> UNLESS OF COURSE ITS TINNITUS LOL Roger DiRuscio R.E. Realty Experts Broker Associate #615513 Fremont, Ca 94539 510-226-2414 ofc message line Ham radio KG6QKZ (gen) Fremont CERT volunteer "Ardenwood" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > Dave: > > I admit I was wrong in theory (big of me, ain't it?). You bein' a former > college professor (philosophy, phrenology, crapology or somethin') I would > expect an answer like that. > > The only problem is that with the size of wiring that would be required > for that distance, the cost would most likely be in the multiple zillions > of dollars (rand??!!) and getting the right-of-way would also be just a > teensy problem. > > Only you could afford to do it that way - - - - BUT, you're too cheap! > :-) > > Take care - Elden (just a dumb Kaintuck hick) > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > P.S.: Please send the bill to my address on Mars. Once I receive it, I > will promptly remit in Martian Zabroznicks. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of David >> Rotigel >> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 06:17 PM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> >> >> You are ABSOLUTELY WRONG on this Elden! Moving >> the UPS a goodly >> distance (Say 15,000-20,000 km) away would surly >> stop the buzz! >> Dave >> PS, Jerry, I'll be sending you a bill for my advice! >> >> On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Elden DuRand wrote: >> >> > Jerry: >> > >> > I agree that moving the UPS most likely won't >> cure the problem. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Apr 21 18:12:13 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:12:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Prentiss Vise update In-Reply-To: <3432e.45f345dd.3900e70e@aol.com> Message-ID: Tom: I'll try to remember to get the stuff packed up and to the P.O. tomorrow. I'll just throw it into one of those small flat rate boxes. Take care - Elden DuRand edurand at mchsi.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > Germoamer at aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 06:41 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Prentiss Vise update > > > Elden, > > Being one who has a hard time parting with apiece > of scrap paper, I will be > glad to give the stuff a home. Hopefully the > screws will match and the > vise will have a complete set of original ones. > > Tom Schmutz > 1656 Beckham Rd. > Concord, Va. 24538 > _germoamer at AOL.com_ (mailto:germoamer at AOL.com) > > Let me know what the shipping is. > > Thanks, > > Tom From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Apr 21 18:14:04 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:14:04 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <5F578396FDDD45A0A13EC90B31CAA157@D6R3D961> Message-ID: Roger: Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears is actin' up somepin' terrible this evenin'. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Roger > DiRuscio > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 06:57 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > UNLESS OF COURSE ITS TINNITUS > LOL > > Roger DiRuscio R.E. Realty Experts > Broker Associate #615513 > Fremont, Ca 94539 > 510-226-2414 ofc message line > Ham radio KG6QKZ (gen) > Fremont CERT volunteer "Ardenwood" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elden DuRand" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:45 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > Dave: > > > > I admit I was wrong in theory (big of me, ain't > it?). You bein' a former > > college professor (philosophy, phrenology, > crapology or somethin') I would > > expect an answer like that. > > > > The only problem is that with the size of > wiring that would be required > > for that distance, the cost would most likely > be in the multiple zillions > > of dollars (rand??!!) and getting the > right-of-way would also be just a > > teensy problem. > > > > Only you could afford to do it that way - - - - > BUT, you're too cheap! > > :-) From solarrog at pacbell.net Wed Apr 21 17:50:13 2010 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:50:13 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. References: Message-ID: <95F07706F26A411EB1F69AAB65B32F74@D6R3D961> answer the darn phone Roger DiRuscio R.E. Realty Experts Broker Associate #615513 Fremont, Ca 94539 510-226-2414 ofc message line Ham radio KG6QKZ (gen) Fremont CERT volunteer "Ardenwood" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > Roger: > > Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears is actin' up somepin' > terrible this evenin'. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of Roger >> DiRuscio >> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 06:57 PM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> >> >> UNLESS OF COURSE ITS TINNITUS >> LOL >> >> Roger DiRuscio R.E. Realty Experts >> Broker Associate #615513 >> Fremont, Ca 94539 >> 510-226-2414 ofc message line >> Ham radio KG6QKZ (gen) >> Fremont CERT volunteer "Ardenwood" >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Elden DuRand" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:45 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> >> >> > Dave: >> > >> > I admit I was wrong in theory (big of me, ain't >> it?). You bein' a former >> > college professor (philosophy, phrenology, >> crapology or somethin') I would >> > expect an answer like that. >> > >> > The only problem is that with the size of >> wiring that would be required >> > for that distance, the cost would most likely >> be in the multiple zillions >> > of dollars (rand??!!) and getting the >> right-of-way would also be just a >> > teensy problem. >> > >> > Only you could afford to do it that way - - - - >> BUT, you're too cheap! >> > :-) > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jbcast at charter.net Wed Apr 21 18:02:34 2010 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:02:34 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20100421210234.UDVOB.2063754.root@mp08> ---- Elden DuRand wrote: > Roger: > > Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears is actin' up somepin' terrible this evenin'.<< Elden, I have it. I tell my wife I have two problems, hard of hearing and hard of listening. J.B. Castagnos From falcon at telenet.net Wed Apr 21 20:40:54 2010 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:40:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <20100421210234.UDVOB.2063754.root@mp08> References: <20100421210234.UDVOB.2063754.root@mp08> Message-ID: <4BCFC546.4030505@telenet.net> jbcast at charter.net wrote: > ---- Elden DuRand wrote: >> Roger: >> >> Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears is actin' up somepin' terrible this evenin'.<< > > Elden, > I have it. I tell my wife I have two problems, hard of hearing and hard of listening. > J.B. Castagnos I developed this lovely condition about a month ago. Currently in the right ear only. Strange thing is that it comes/goes. Seems worse when I wake up in the morning. Same time it started I also got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and hypertension... Man getting old isn't fun......... -- Steve W. From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Apr 22 04:42:08 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:42:08 EDT Subject: [SEL] Prentiss Vise update Message-ID: <4e930.19e76f1d.39019010@aol.com> In a message dated 4/21/2010 8:26:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, edurand at mchsi.com writes: I'll try to remember to get the stuff packed up and to the P.O. tomorrow. Elden, Thanks and no hurry for it. Tom From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 07:15:06 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:15:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <95F07706F26A411EB1F69AAB65B32F74@D6R3D961> Message-ID: "RINNNNNGGGGGG! Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! You don't say! Who was it? He didn't say!" Now, the question of the day is, where did that scene come from? Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Roger > DiRuscio > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 07:50 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > answer the darn phone > > Roger DiRuscio R.E. Realty Experts > Broker Associate #615513 > Fremont, Ca 94539 > 510-226-2414 ofc message line > Ham radio KG6QKZ (gen) > Fremont CERT volunteer "Ardenwood" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elden DuRand" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 6:14 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > Roger: > > > > Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears > is actin' up somepin' > > terrible this evenin'. From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 07:17:34 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:17:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <4BCFC546.4030505@telenet.net> Message-ID: Steve: I've had my tinnitus since about the time recorded music went from vinyl to CD's. Before, the rumble and surface noise of the records bothered me. Now, I can't hear it 'cause it's drowned out by the high pitched singing (inside my head). Life ain't fair! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Steve W. > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:41 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > ---- Elden DuRand wrote: > >> Roger: > >> > >> Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears > is actin' up somepin' terrible this evenin'.<< > > > > Elden, > > I have it. I tell my wife I have two problems, > hard of hearing and hard of listening. > > J.B. Castagnos > > > I developed this lovely condition about a month > ago. Currently in the > right ear only. Strange thing is that it > comes/goes. Seems worse when I > wake up in the morning. > > Same time it started I also got diagnosed with > type 2 diabetes and > hypertension... > > Man getting old isn't fun......... > > -- > Steve W. From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Thu Apr 22 06:37:49 2010 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:37:49 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Anyone have any luck with this stuff? http://www.quietrelief.com/ RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > Steve: > > I've had my tinnitus since about the time recorded music went from vinyl > to CD's. Before, the rumble and surface noise of the records bothered me. > Now, I can't hear it 'cause it's drowned out by the high pitched singing > (inside my head). > > Life ain't fair! > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of Steve W. > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:41 PM > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > > ---- Elden DuRand wrote: > > >> Roger: > > >> > > >> Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears > > is actin' up somepin' terrible this evenin'.<< > > > > > > Elden, > > > I have it. I tell my wife I have two problems, > > hard of hearing and hard of listening. > > > J.B. Castagnos > > > > > > I developed this lovely condition about a month > > ago. Currently in the > > right ear only. Strange thing is that it > > comes/goes. Seems worse when I > > wake up in the morning. > > > > Same time it started I also got diagnosed with > > type 2 diabetes and > > hypertension... > > > > Man getting old isn't fun......... > > > > -- > > Steve W. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From falcon at telenet.net Thu Apr 22 06:47:21 2010 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:47:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BD05369.4040205@telenet.net> Elden DuRand wrote: > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! You don't say! > > Who was it? > > He didn't say!" > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that scene come from? > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand Sounds like a line from a Bob Hope+Bing Crosby Road Picture. I know I've seen it but not sure if that was where. -- Steve W. (\___/) (='.'=) (")_(") From skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com Thu Apr 22 07:07:59 2010 From: skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com (SKIP CLEVELAND) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:07:59 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. References: Message-ID: <0773AF12AF6148D6BBCA8FE4A41A08F1@YOURDA6F5028CB> Benny Hill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! You don't say! > > Who was it? > > He didn't say!" > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that scene come from? > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of Roger >> DiRuscio >> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 07:50 PM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> >> >> answer the darn phone >> >> Roger DiRuscio R.E. Realty Experts >> Broker Associate #615513 >> Fremont, Ca 94539 >> 510-226-2414 ofc message line >> Ham radio KG6QKZ (gen) >> Fremont CERT volunteer "Ardenwood" >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Elden DuRand" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 6:14 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> >> >> > Roger: >> > >> > Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears >> is actin' up somepin' >> > terrible this evenin'. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jlb94 at juno.com Thu Apr 22 07:16:38 2010 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94 at juno.com) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:16:38 GMT Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Message-ID: <20100422.101638.15364.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com> Hi List. I see that someone has started a thread on Tinnitus. I've had the ringing, crickets, birds, bells, Humming (all at once) for about as long as I can remember. When I was young, I figured everyone had this noise going on in their ears. First you have to understand where it comes from - It's caused by the dying of nerve endings in the ear. Or - If you will - Imagine several nerve endings standing straight up like blades of grass. As you get older, the nerve endings tend to bend over at the top making it harder to hear as the nerve endings dye out and making the Tinnitus louder. Anyone that has it knows that it is louder than anything else. If you are running a grinder, the Tinnitus will be heard over the sound of the grinder - or - If you are listening to music, it will be louder than the music - or any other source of noise or sound. Someone gave me a brochure on this "Quietus". I would be willing to try it but I am not willing to spend $99.95 + $9.95 S&H for something that (probably) doesn't work. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Be kinder than necessary - - - (_o_) everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Richard Strobel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:37:49 -0600 Anyone have any luck with this stuff? http://www.quietrelief.com/ RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > Steve: > > I've had my tinnitus since about the time recorded music went from vinyl > to CD's. Before, the rumble and surface noise of the records bothered me. > Now, I can't hear it 'cause it's drowned out by the high pitched singing > (inside my head). > > Life ain't fair! > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of Steve W. > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:41 PM > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > > ---- Elden DuRand wrote: > > >> Roger: > > >> > > >> Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears > > is actin' up somepin' terrible this evenin'.<< > > > > > > Elden, > > > I have it. I tell my wife I have two problems, > > hard of hearing and hard of listening. > > > J.B. Castagnos > > > > > > I developed this lovely condition about a month > > ago. Currently in the > > right ear only. Strange thing is that it > > comes/goes. Seems worse when I > > wake up in the morning. > > > > Same time it started I also got diagnosed with > > type 2 diabetes and > > hypertension... > > > > Man getting old isn't fun......... > > > > -- > > Steve W. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bd05abc6b4e89a328st06vuc From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 08:23:04 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:23:04 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <0773AF12AF6148D6BBCA8FE4A41A08F1@YOURDA6F5028CB> Message-ID: Steve and Skip: Wrong so far. About the vintage of Hope/Crosby but lots too early for Benny Hill. Any more guesses? I could give hints but that would be too easy. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of SKIP > CLEVELAND > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 09:08 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > Benny Hill > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elden DuRand" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:15 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > You don't say! > > > > Who was it? > > > > He didn't say!" > > > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that > scene come from? From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 08:26:20 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:26:20 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Rick: I haven't tried it but just could be convinced to do so if someone else gives it a shot and survives. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Richard > Strobel > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 08:38 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > Anyone have any luck with this stuff? > > http://www.quietrelief.com/ > > RickinMt. From skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com Thu Apr 22 09:11:30 2010 From: skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com (SKIP CLEVELAND) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:11:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. References: Message-ID: <320366298CD84E909BBD7716DB8593B4@YOURDA6F5028CB> I remember it too but , I was able to Google it and the link says Benny Hill and a mate used it. It ain't Abbot and Costello http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/34/messages/214.html > Skip Steve and Skip: > > Wrong so far. About the vintage of Hope/Crosby but lots too early for Benny Hill. > > Any more guesses? > > I could give hints but that would be too easy. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of SKIP >> CLEVELAND >> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 09:08 AM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> >> >> Benny Hill >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Elden DuRand" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> >> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:15 AM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> >> >> > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! >> > >> > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! >> You don't say! >> > >> > Who was it? >> > >> > He didn't say!" >> > >> > Now, the question of the day is, where did that >> scene come from? > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Apr 22 09:20:56 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:20:56 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <20100422.101638.15364.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100422.101638.15364.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: On Apr 22, 2010, at 7:16 AM, jlb94 at juno.com wrote: > Hi List. > I see that someone has started a thread on Tinnitus. Joe, I don't know if tinnitius is genetic or an effect of environmental conditions. Perhaps it's both. But here's something to think about. Many enginemen have youngins around when we run engines, run machine tools, bust a cap in the groundhogs, etc. We're doing them harm if we do so without supplying them with proper hearing protection. This is 2010, and we're a lot smarter than we were 50 years ago. Many of the maladies that we suffer today could have been prevented. Don't doom your kids to a life of ringing in their ears. Rob From bigtime64 at hotmail.com Thu Apr 22 10:28:02 2010 From: bigtime64 at hotmail.com (Ed Herreid) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:28:02 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: <0773AF12AF6148D6BBCA8FE4A41A08F1@YOURDA6F5028CB>, Message-ID: I am pretty sure that would be Three Stooges. Ed Herreid > From: edurand at mchsi.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:23:04 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > Steve and Skip: > > Wrong so far. About the vintage of Hope/Crosby but lots too early for Benny Hill. > > Any more guesses? > > I could give hints but that would be too easy. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of SKIP > > CLEVELAND > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 09:08 AM > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > Benny Hill > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Elden DuRand" > > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:15 AM > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > > > > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > > You don't say! > > > > > > Who was it? > > > > > > He didn't say!" > > > > > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that > > scene come from? > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From gop4evr at lsol.net Thu Apr 22 10:47:31 2010 From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:47:31 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: <0773AF12AF6148D6BBCA8FE4A41A08F1@YOURDA6F5028CB>, Message-ID: <4BD08BB3.3050702@lsol.net> That's a winner, but I can't say exactly which movie. I do have the Larry, Moe, & Curly (and Shemp) DVD collection on the shelf. Don't make me dust it off. ;-) Nels Johnsrud Manitowoc WI 3hp Herc Also a shed full of David Bradley walk-behinds (but that's another subject) Ed Herreid wrote: > > > I am pretty sure that would be Three Stooges. > > > > Ed Herreid > > > > >> From: edurand at mchsi.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:23:04 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> >> Steve and Skip: >> >> Wrong so far. About the vintage of Hope/Crosby but lots too early for Benny Hill. >> >> Any more guesses? >> >> I could give hints but that would be too easy. >> >> Take care - Elden >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >>> Behalf Of SKIP >>> CLEVELAND >>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 09:08 AM >>> To: The SEL email discussion list >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >>> >>> >>> Benny Hill >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Elden DuRand" >>> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:15 AM >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >>> >>> >>> >>>> "RINNNNNGGGGGG! >>>> >>>> Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! >>>> >>> You don't say! >>> >>>> Who was it? >>>> >>>> He didn't say!" >>>> >>>> Now, the question of the day is, where did that >>>> >>> scene come from? >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From kosh at ncweb.com Thu Apr 22 10:47:47 2010 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:47:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: <0773AF12AF6148D6BBCA8FE4A41A08F1@YOURDA6F5028CB> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20100422134409.0cd650c0@ncweb.com> Used by Ghoulardi, on Cleveland TV, 1960's. Knock knock! I hear a ka-nocking on my phone. Hello! You don't say! You don't say! YOU DON'T SAY! [hangup] Who was it, Ernie? He didn't say. ...Possibly copied from elsewhere. Dave Merchant At 01:28 PM 4/22/2010, Ed Herreid wrote: > > >I am pretty sure that would be Three Stooges. > > > >Ed Herreid > > > > > From: edurand at mchsi.com > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:23:04 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > Steve and Skip: > > > > Wrong so far. About the vintage of Hope/Crosby but lots too early for > Benny Hill. > > > > Any more guesses? > > > > I could give hints but that would be too easy. > > > > Take care - Elden > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > > Behalf Of SKIP > > > CLEVELAND > > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 09:08 AM > > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > > > > Benny Hill > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Elden DuRand" > > > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:15 AM > > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > > > > > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > > > > > > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > > > You don't say! > > > > > > > > Who was it? > > > > > > > > He didn't say!" > > > > > > > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that > > > scene come from? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >_________________________________________________________________ >Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your >inbox. >http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline." - Prof. Phil Jones - Director, Climatic Research Unit - School of Environmental Sciences - University of East Anglia - Norwich, UK - To: Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley, Malcolm Hughes From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 12:05:10 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:05:10 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <20100422.101638.15364.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Joe: Sorta what I thought! "If it seems too good to be true, it probably is." Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > jlb94 at juno.com > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 09:17 AM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > Hi List. .............snip.................. > Someone gave me a brochure on this "Quietus". I > would be willing to try it but I am not willing > to spend $99.95 + $9.95 S&H for something that > (probably) doesn't work. > Joe "Pip" Betz said that From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 12:07:13 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:07:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <320366298CD84E909BBD7716DB8593B4@YOURDA6F5028CB> Message-ID: Skip: It was about the time of Abbott & Costello (but not them) and, if it was used by Benny Hill, he "borrowed" it from the original artist. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of SKIP > CLEVELAND > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:12 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > I remember it too but , I was able to Google it > and the link says Benny Hill and a mate used it. > It ain't Abbot and Costello > >> > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > >> > > >> > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > >> You don't say! > >> > > >> > Who was it? > >> > > >> > He didn't say!" > >> > > >> > Now, the question of the day is, where did that > >> scene come from? From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 12:08:38 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:08:38 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If I'da knowed I'd'a lived this long, I'da took better care of m'self! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Rob Skinner > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:21 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > On Apr 22, 2010, at 7:16 AM, jlb94 at juno.com wrote: > > > Hi List. > > I see that someone has started a thread on Tinnitus. > > Joe, > I don't know if tinnitius is genetic or an effect > of environmental > conditions. Perhaps it's both. But here's > something to think about. > Many enginemen have youngins around when we run > engines, run machine > tools, bust a cap in the groundhogs, etc. We're > doing them harm if we > do so without supplying them with proper hearing > protection. > > This is 2010, and we're a lot smarter than we > were 50 years ago. Many > of the maladies that we suffer today could have > been prevented. Don't > doom your kids to a life of ringing in their ears. > > Rob From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 12:10:03 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:10:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ed: Sorry. Again, it is in the heyday of The Three Stooges but it weren't them. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Ed Herreid > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:28 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > I am pretty sure that would be Three Stooges. > > > > Ed Herreid ..................snip....................... > > > > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > > > > > > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > > > You don't say! > > > > > > > > Who was it? > > > > > > > > He didn't say!" > > > > > > > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that > > > scene come from? From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 12:11:44 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:11:44 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20100422134409.0cd650c0@ncweb.com> Message-ID: Dave: You are about a decade too late. Am I gonna have to give you ignert Geezers a clue??!! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Dave > Merchant > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:48 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list; > sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > Used by Ghoulardi, on Cleveland TV, 1960's. > > Knock knock! > > I hear a ka-nocking on my phone. > > Hello! > > You don't say! > > You don't say! > > YOU DON'T SAY! > > [hangup] > > Who was it, Ernie? > > He didn't say. > > ...Possibly copied from elsewhere. > > Dave Merchant .......................snip..................... > > > > > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > > > > > > > > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > > > > You don't say! > > > > > > > > > > Who was it? > > > > > > > > > > He didn't say!" > > > > > > > > > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that > > > > scene come from? From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Apr 22 11:10:43 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:10:43 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100422200730.02ae9050@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi All, Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I'll be looking at the problem this weekend. Now that the thread has changed to Tinnitus - I have suffered from it for quite a few years as well. It's worse in the morning and much worse if I have a hangover :-). The buzzing on the phone is not tinnitus !! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 12:14:46 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:14:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <4BD08BB3.3050702@lsol.net> Message-ID: Nels: Now, you've got me questioning what I know about the act. Since The Three Stooges are in the same era as where I heard it (and can reproduce it!), it could have been from them but I don't think so. Do I have to give you guys a clue? Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Nelson > Johnsrud > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:48 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > That's a winner, but I can't say exactly which > movie. I do have the > Larry, Moe, & Curly (and Shemp) DVD collection on > the shelf. Don't make > me dust it off. ;-) > > Nels Johnsrud > Manitowoc WI ...................snip.......................... > >>>> "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > >>>> > >>>> Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > >>>> > >>> You don't say! > >>> > >>>> Who was it? > >>>> > >>>> He didn't say!" > >>>> > >>>> Now, the question of the day is, where did that > >>>> > >>> scene come from? From gop4evr at lsol.net Thu Apr 22 11:21:59 2010 From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:21:59 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BD093C7.6070202@lsol.net> They DID use it though. I got proof! ;-) Elden DuRand wrote: > Ed: > > Sorry. Again, it is in the heyday of The Three Stooges but it weren't them. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> Behalf Of Ed Herreid >> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:28 PM >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> >> >> >> >> >> I am pretty sure that would be Three Stooges. >> >> >> >> Ed Herreid >> > > ..................snip....................... > > >>>>> "RINNNNNGGGGGG! >>>>> >>>>> Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! >>>>> >>>> You don't say! >>>> >>>>> Who was it? >>>>> >>>>> He didn't say!" >>>>> >>>>> Now, the question of the day is, where did that >>>>> >>>> scene come from? >>>> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From bigtime64 at hotmail.com Thu Apr 22 11:41:58 2010 From: bigtime64 at hotmail.com (Ed Herreid) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:41:58 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Guess number two would be "Get Smart" I can picture Don adams talking into his shoe doing that routine. I found a collection of stooges quotes but could not find the one in question. http://www.threestooges.net/quotes.php Lots of good ones though Ed > From: edurand at mchsi.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:10:03 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > Ed: > > Sorry. Again, it is in the heyday of The Three Stooges but it weren't them. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of Ed Herreid > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:28 PM > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am pretty sure that would be Three Stooges. > > > > > > > > Ed Herreid > > ..................snip....................... > > > > > > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > > > > > > > > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > > > > You don't say! > > > > > > > > > > Who was it? > > > > > > > > > > He didn't say!" > > > > > > > > > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that > > > > scene come from? > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From blcksmth at wcnet.org Thu Apr 22 11:54:39 2010 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:54:39 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <20100422.101638.15364.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100422.101638.15364.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <206E5ECCC1F5498EBAC391EEFC06DE44@Eagle> My tinnitus was caused by high powered firearms - especially the 357 magnum without hearing protection. Who knew back then! Bob Willman The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW Bowling Green, Ohio America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. Abraham Lincoln -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of jlb94 at juno.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:17 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Hi List. I see that someone has started a thread on Tinnitus. I've had the ringing, crickets, birds, bells, Humming (all at once) for about as long as I can remember. When I was young, I figured everyone had this noise going on in their ears. First you have to understand where it comes from - It's caused by the dying of nerve endings in the ear. Or - If you will - Imagine several nerve endings standing straight up like blades of grass. As you get older, the nerve endings tend to bend over at the top making it harder to hear as the nerve endings dye out and making the Tinnitus louder. Anyone that has it knows that it is louder than anything else. If you are running a grinder, the Tinnitus will be heard over the sound of the grinder - or - If you are listening to music, it will be louder than the music - or any other source of noise or sound. Someone gave me a brochure on this "Quietus". I would be willing to try it but I am not willing to spend $99.95 + $9.95 S&H for something that (probably) doesn't work. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Be kinder than necessary - - - (_o_) everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Richard Strobel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:37:49 -0600 Anyone have any luck with this stuff? http://www.quietrelief.com/ RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > Steve: > > I've had my tinnitus since about the time recorded music went from vinyl > to CD's. Before, the rumble and surface noise of the records bothered me. > Now, I can't hear it 'cause it's drowned out by the high pitched singing > (inside my head). > > Life ain't fair! > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of Steve W. > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:41 PM > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > > ---- Elden DuRand wrote: > > >> Roger: > > >> > > >> Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears > > is actin' up somepin' terrible this evenin'.<< > > > > > > Elden, > > > I have it. I tell my wife I have two problems, > > hard of hearing and hard of listening. > > > J.B. Castagnos > > > > > > I developed this lovely condition about a month > > ago. Currently in the > > right ear only. Strange thing is that it > > comes/goes. Seems worse when I > > wake up in the morning. > > > > Same time it started I also got diagnosed with > > type 2 diabetes and > > hypertension... > > > > Man getting old isn't fun......... > > > > -- > > Steve W. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bd05abc6b4e89a328st06vuc _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 22 12:23:05 2010 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:23:05 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Message-ID: <312447.83209.qm@smtp102-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Spike Jones and His City Slickers. I believe it was from their version of the song "My old flame". I have the 78 of it on my Wurlitzer 1015. Joe Sent from my U.S. Cellular? Windows? phone. -----Original Message----- From: Steve W. Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:47 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Elden DuRand wrote: > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! You don't say! > > Who was it? > > He didn't say!" > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that scene come from? > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand Sounds like a line from a Bob Hope+Bing Crosby Road Picture. I know I've seen it but not sure if that was where. -- Steve W. (\___/) (='.'=) (")_(") _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Thu Apr 22 13:35:33 2010 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:35:33 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. References: <20100422.101638.15364.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com> <206E5ECCC1F5498EBAC391EEFC06DE44@Eagle> Message-ID: <767BD2CD155743B7AC7CC02FF9B13240@Desktop> Once upon a time I was in the army going through basic. One of the things we did was fire a 30 cal. machine gun. The procedure was to split us into groups of two, one fired the gun the other looked into his eyes to see if he was flinching. This looking into was done by laying prone in the front of the gun with your legs spread out and out of the field of fire. Your head was only about a foot from the muzzle when firing. My ears rang for two weeks after this. We did not wear any hearing protection as that was considered wimpy. I think this is partly the cause of being somewhat deaf today as I have very little high freq hearing left. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes jd.kirkes at verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Willman" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. My tinnitus was caused by high powered firearms - especially the 357 magnum without hearing protection. Who knew back then! Bob Willman The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW Bowling Green, Ohio America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. Abraham Lincoln -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of jlb94 at juno.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:17 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Hi List. I see that someone has started a thread on Tinnitus. I've had the ringing, crickets, birds, bells, Humming (all at once) for about as long as I can remember. When I was young, I figured everyone had this noise going on in their ears. First you have to understand where it comes from - It's caused by the dying of nerve endings in the ear. Or - If you will - Imagine several nerve endings standing straight up like blades of grass. As you get older, the nerve endings tend to bend over at the top making it harder to hear as the nerve endings dye out and making the Tinnitus louder. Anyone that has it knows that it is louder than anything else. If you are running a grinder, the Tinnitus will be heard over the sound of the grinder - or - If you are listening to music, it will be louder than the music - or any other source of noise or sound. Someone gave me a brochure on this "Quietus". I would be willing to try it but I am not willing to spend $99.95 + $9.95 S&H for something that (probably) doesn't work. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ Be kinder than necessary - - - (_o_) everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Richard Strobel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:37:49 -0600 Anyone have any luck with this stuff? http://www.quietrelief.com/ RickinMt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elden DuRand" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > Steve: > > I've had my tinnitus since about the time recorded music > went from vinyl > to CD's. Before, the rumble and surface noise of the > records bothered me. > Now, I can't hear it 'cause it's drowned out by the high > pitched singing > (inside my head). > > Life ain't fair! > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of Steve W. > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:41 PM > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > jbcast at charter.net wrote: > > > ---- Elden DuRand wrote: > > >> Roger: > > >> > > >> Whut did 'ya say??!! That ringin' in my ears > > is actin' up somepin' terrible this evenin'.<< > > > > > > Elden, > > > I have it. I tell my wife I have two problems, > > hard of hearing and hard of listening. > > > J.B. Castagnos > > > > > > I developed this lovely condition about a month > > ago. Currently in the > > right ear only. Strange thing is that it > > comes/goes. Seems worse when I > > wake up in the morning. > > > > Same time it started I also got diagnosed with > > type 2 diabetes and > > hypertension... > > > > Man getting old isn't fun......... > > > > -- > > Steve W. > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bd05abc6b4e89a328st06vuc _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bigtime64 at hotmail.com Thu Apr 22 13:48:28 2010 From: bigtime64 at hotmail.com (Ed Herreid) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:48:28 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Guess number two would be "Get Smart" I can picture Don adams talking into his shoe doing that routine. I found a collection of stooges quotes but could not find the one in question. http://www.threestooges.net/quotes.php Lots of good ones though Ed > From: edurand at mchsi.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:10:03 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > Ed: > > Sorry. Again, it is in the heyday of The Three Stooges but it weren't them. > > Take care - Elden > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of Ed Herreid > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:28 PM > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am pretty sure that would be Three Stooges. > > > > > > > > Ed Herreid > > ..................snip....................... > > > > > > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > > > > > > > > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > > > > You don't say! > > > > > > > > > > Who was it? > > > > > > > > > > He didn't say!" > > > > > > > > > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that > > > > scene come from? > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Learn more. _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Thu Apr 22 13:56:30 2010 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:56:30 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. Message-ID: I know exactly where it came from. Uncle Sam's Rifle Club insisted I learn International Morse Code. It was taught roughly, by screaming instructors (yes, literally). They had to be heard over the "cans" - earphones - through which the machine-generated code came. The sound level was not adjustable. It was LOUD. I have been through a couple of audiology examinations. The conclusion is that aids can make the rest of the sounds louder, but when they are louder than the tinnitus, the entirety is more than I can bear. The civilian audiologist told me the aids I needed were $6200, four years ago. I don't remember if that was for one or two; didn't matter - they won't guarantee they will help. My entire MOS (O5G) suffers from hearing loss and tinnitus. Most get a little disability for it, 10% each affliction. I don't; the DVA decided my hearing problems were not service-related. The battery of 8" guns next door to our base near Nha Trang was also unhelpful, but that's just my opinion. The older I get, the more obtrusive the tinnitus becomes. Those around me are even more tired of it than I am. Eh? Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life wrote a blank check made payable to ?The United States of America ? for an amount of ?up to and including my life.? That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.? _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From solarrog at pacbell.net Thu Apr 22 13:56:58 2010 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:56:58 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. References: , Message-ID: <74E9297D67E2401499AE2D34035FD2C4@D6R3D961> Abbott and Costello???????? Roger DiRuscio R.E. Realty Experts Broker Associate #615513 Fremont, Ca 94539 510-226-2414 ofc message line Ham radio KG6QKZ (gen) Fremont CERT volunteer "Ardenwood" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Herreid" To: Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:48 PM Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > Guess number two would be "Get Smart" I can picture Don adams talking > into his shoe doing that routine. > > I found a collection of stooges quotes but could not find the one in > question. > > http://www.threestooges.net/quotes.php > > Lots of good ones though > > Ed > >> From: edurand at mchsi.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:10:03 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> >> Ed: >> >> Sorry. Again, it is in the heyday of The Three Stooges but it weren't >> them. >> >> Take care - Elden >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> > Behalf Of Ed Herreid >> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:28 PM >> > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I am pretty sure that would be Three Stooges. >> > >> > >> > >> > Ed Herreid >> >> ..................snip....................... >> >> > > > > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! >> > > > > >> > > > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! >> > > > You don't say! >> > > > > >> > > > > Who was it? >> > > > > >> > > > > He didn't say!" >> > > > > >> > > > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that >> > > > scene come from? >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your > inbox. Learn more. > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From solarrog at pacbell.net Thu Apr 22 14:12:26 2010 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:12:26 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. References: Message-ID: <5285DF5F82BB4C96A957618E96ABB3EE@D6R3D961> Interesting Bruce, I was a O5H2F aviation morse interceptor, with some other duties also 146th aviation co. Long Thanh north 71-72 I never tied my tinnitus with the morse code. or the noise of the planes. but I guess its possible Roger DiRuscio R.E. Realty Experts Broker Associate #615513 Fremont, Ca 94539 510-226-2414 ofc message line Ham radio KG6QKZ (gen) Fremont CERT volunteer "Ardenwood" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Younger" To: Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. I know exactly where it came from. Uncle Sam's Rifle Club insisted I learn International Morse Code. It was taught roughly, by screaming instructors (yes, literally). They had to be heard over the "cans" - earphones - through which the machine-generated code came. The sound level was not adjustable. It was LOUD. I have been through a couple of audiology examinations. The conclusion is that aids can make the rest of the sounds louder, but when they are louder than the tinnitus, the entirety is more than I can bear. The civilian audiologist told me the aids I needed were $6200, four years ago. I don't remember if that was for one or two; didn't matter - they won't guarantee they will help. My entire MOS (O5G) suffers from hearing loss and tinnitus. Most get a little disability for it, 10% each affliction. I don't; the DVA decided my hearing problems were not service-related. The battery of 8" guns next door to our base near Nha Trang was also unhelpful, but that's just my opinion. The older I get, the more obtrusive the tinnitus becomes. Those around me are even more tired of it than I am. Eh? Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life wrote a blank check made payable to ?The United States of America ? for an amount of ?up to and including my life.? That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.? _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 16:18:45 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:18:45 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <4BD093C7.6070202@lsol.net> Message-ID: Nels: I got proof, too! So there! 'Ya give up yet? Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Nelson > Johnsrud > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 01:22 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > They DID use it though. I got proof! ;-) > > Elden DuRand wrote: > > Ed: > > > > Sorry. Again, it is in the heyday of The Three > Stooges but it weren't them. > > > > Take care - Elden > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > >> Behalf Of Ed Herreid > >> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:28 PM > >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> I am pretty sure that would be Three Stooges. > >> > >> > >> > >> Ed Herreid > >> > > > > ..................snip....................... > > > > > >>>>> "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > >>>>> > >>>>> Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > >>>>> > >>>> You don't say! > >>>> > >>>>> Who was it? > >>>>> > >>>>> He didn't say!" > >>>>> > >>>>> Now, the question of the day is, where did that > >>>>> > >>>> scene come from? From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 16:20:10 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:20:10 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <206E5ECCC1F5498EBAC391EEFC06DE44@Eagle> Message-ID: Bob: Mine was caused by about a zillion shots from, of all things, a .22 target rifle. I fired on an NRA rifle team while in high school. The tinnitus didn't show up for about 20 years. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Bob Willman > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 01:55 PM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > > My tinnitus was caused by high powered > firearms - especially the 357 > magnum without hearing protection. Who knew back then! > > > Bob Willman > The Eagle's Anvil > WB8NQW > Bowling Green, Ohio From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 16:24:09 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:24:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <312447.83209.qm@smtp102-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Joe: You are so close, I'll give you the distinction of being the winner. Actually, it was from the same record by Spike Jones And His City Slickers but it wasn't "My Old Flame" (Sung with a Peter Lorey voice). The skit was from "Chloe". I've had the record for decades, the 45 version. I also use another snippet from the record as the intro sound for my webpage. ....... "Nightshade's falling ..... KEEEEERASH!". Geez, that sure wasted bandwidth ....... But it DID bring out some lurkers! :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Joe Prindle > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 02:23 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > Spike Jones and His City Slickers. I believe it > was from their version of the song "My old flame". > I have the 78 of it on my Wurlitzer 1015. > Joe > > Sent from my U.S. Cellular? Windows? phone. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve W. > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:47 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > Elden DuRand wrote: > > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > > > Hello? ...... You don't say? You don't say?! > You don't say! > > > > Who was it? > > > > He didn't say!" > > > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that > scene come from? From falcon at telenet.net Thu Apr 22 15:45:17 2010 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:45:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BD0D17D.90002@telenet.net> Elden DuRand wrote: > Bob: > > Mine was caused by about a zillion shots from, of all things, a .22 > target rifle. I fired on an NRA rifle team while in high school. > The tinnitus didn't show up for about 20 years. > > Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > Not sure what is the problem with mine. Currently it still seems to fade in/out. The doc isn't real concerned about it yet. He is more concerned with how much money he can get from referrals to other doctors for my other problems. Although he is a bit miffed that my blood tests showed normal cholesterol! One less prescription to get paid for! Reading about it online it seems that there really isn't one cause for it and that each type is a little different. Some are nerve related at the ear while others are related to the brain itself. Too much aspirin can cause it as well as most other NSAID drugs. As can a myriad of other conditions like high blood pressure, infections and external things like loud noises, repetitive sounds and many other things. -- Steve W. (\___/) (='.'=) (")_(") From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 22 16:07:44 2010 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 16:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <959162.69781.qm@web112610.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> No, I am runner up. As soon as I posted that reply, I got an offlist email from Ken Christison? saying it was the Spike Jones rendition of "Chloe". Ken said he had been trying to send a reply to the list with a link to a Youtube video of it, but his emails wouldn't go through. So, Ken gets the kudos and I am in good company as a runner up. I was a weird kid, which should come as no surprise to those who really know me, and I used to listen to the radio on Tuesday nights when the Dr. Demento show was on. It was there I first heard Spike Jones. I think I was about 13 when I bought a couple of Spike Jones 78's at the Baraboo show flea market. That got me started in collecting 78's and cylinders and the machines that play them. Just like our old engines, the prices of good phonographs with good original horns, have skyrocketed since the early 80's when I got into the hobby. I wish I would not have passed up all the stuff that a $100 dollar bill would once buy, "saying it would never be worth that". C'est La Vie, Joe Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan --- On Thu, 4/22/10, Elden DuRand wrote: From: Elden DuRand Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 6:24 PM Joe: You are so close, I'll give you the distinction of being the winner. Actually, it was from the same record by Spike Jones And His City Slickers but it wasn't "My Old Flame" (Sung with a Peter Lorey voice). The skit was from "Chloe".? I've had the record for decades, the 45 version.? I also use another snippet from the record as the intro sound for my webpage.? .......? "Nightshade's falling ..... KEEEEERASH!". Geez, that sure wasted bandwidth .......? But it DID bring out some lurkers!? ? :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >? Behalf Of Joe Prindle > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 02:23 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > Spike Jones and His City Slickers. I believe it > was from their version of the song "My old flame". > I have the 78 of it on my Wurlitzer 1015. > Joe > > Sent from my U.S. Cellular? Windows? phone. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve W. > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:47 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > Elden DuRand wrote: > > "RINNNNNGGGGGG! > > > > Hello? ......? You don't say?? You don't say?!? > You don't say! > > > > Who was it? > > > > He didn't say!" > > > > Now, the question of the day is, where did that > scene come from? _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Apr 22 17:25:45 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:25:45 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: <959162.69781.qm@web112610.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Joe: You and Ken can share the kudos! I, too, was a wierd kid. I liked Spike Jones and later, Stan Freeburg and still have some of their records. A few years ago, I used a piece of Spike's "Dance of The Hours" in an answering machine outgoing message. It was the part with the gunshots (I announced a little musical interlude so they could compose their message). People would call for a legitimate business purpose then, everybody in their offices had to hear what made the caller laugh so much. I had to retire that message after only a few days as the machine constantly filled-up with people calling to hear the message. MOst of what I got was laughs and hang-ups. Sometimes, being inventive has it's shortcomings. Take care - Elden edurand at mchsi.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Joe Prindle > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 06:08 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > No, I am runner up. As soon as I posted that > reply, I got an offlist email from Ken Christison? > saying it was the Spike Jones rendition of > "Chloe". Ken said he had been trying to send a > reply to the list with a link to a Youtube video > of it, but his emails wouldn't go through. So, > Ken gets the kudos and I am in good company as a > runner up. From tchristoff at earthlink.net Thu Apr 22 19:15:16 2010 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:15:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Two shows and transportation Message-ID: <11076672.1271988916665.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi all, for the first time in all the years I have been playing with the rusted iron I have found myself in need so some transportation. I need a clutch pulley picked up at Coolsprings in June and brought to Portland in August where I can retrieve it. It is a small one, fits on a 4 hp Myrick so weight and space should not be a problem. I will galdly pay for any expenses incurred and if requested can provide the payment in the form of liquid if so desired. I will be going to the Coolsprings swap in Oct so I can always pick it up then if nothing should work out. Tim Christoff Basehor, KS. Tim Christoff From gop4evr at lsol.net Thu Apr 22 21:31:03 2010 From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 23:31:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Two shows and transportation In-Reply-To: <11076672.1271988916665.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <11076672.1271988916665.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4BD12287.1090905@lsol.net> At the end of next week I will be taking my truck on a tour of the iron belt. I will pass through Chicago, Toledo, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Harrisburg, and York, then up to Buffalo & Niagara Falls, and return on I-90. I'm willing to alter the route within reason to make a pickup or drop. Is this any help? Nels Johnsrud Manitowoc WI Tim Christoff wrote: > Hi all, for the first time in all the years I have been playing with the rusted iron I have found myself in need so some transportation. I need a clutch pulley picked up at Coolsprings in June and brought to Portland in August where I can retrieve it. It is a small one, fits on a 4 hp Myrick so weight and space should not be a problem. I will galdly pay for any expenses incurred and if requested can provide the payment in the form of liquid if so desired. I will be going to the Coolsprings swap in Oct so I can always pick it up then if nothing should work out. > > Tim Christoff > Basehor, KS. > > Tim Christoff > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 00:48:38 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 08:48:38 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: References: <959162.69781.qm@web112610.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 23 April 2010 01:25, Elden DuRand wrote: > Joe: > > You and Ken can share the kudos! > > I, too, was a wierd kid. ?I liked Spike Jones and later, Stan Freeburg and still have some of their records. > We have the Stan Freburg LP still, apart from the obvious and popular skits, some of the other stuff is good as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Freberg Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From clemsweller at etczone.com Fri Apr 23 03:43:51 2010 From: clemsweller at etczone.com (Chuck Emsweller) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 06:43:51 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Hillbilly Flywheelers In-Reply-To: <4BD12287.1090905@lsol.net> References: <11076672.1271988916665.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4BD12287.1090905@lsol.net> Message-ID: <157093AD719F465F8068CF62E426247B@ChuckDesktopPC> Headed out the door to the Hillbilly Flywheeler's engine show in Irvine Ky. Loading up the 7 HP waterloo and Dad will be taking his 6 HP fairbanks. Chances of rain all weekend, but we will still be spinning the flywheels! Hope to see some of you there. chuck From edurand at mchsi.com Fri Apr 23 08:01:18 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:01:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Peter: In keeping with the off-topic nature of this thread, I will add that I can brag on having TWO Stan Freeburg albums! One is "A Child's Garden of Freeburg", which is a compendium of some of his spoofs of popular tunes of the day, The other is "Stan Freeburg Proudly Presents The United States of America". This is a musical comedy about the founding of the United States. Irreverent and witty with, among others, songs about Thanksgiving, "Take An Indian To Lunch Today". Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > Listerdiesel > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 02:49 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > > On 23 April 2010 01:25, Elden DuRand > wrote: > > Joe: > > > > You and Ken can share the kudos! > > > > I, too, was a wierd kid. ?I liked Spike Jones > and later, Stan Freeburg and still have some of > their records. > > > > We have the Stan Freburg LP still, apart from the > obvious and popular > skits, some of the other stuff is good as well. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Freberg From edurand at mchsi.com Fri Apr 23 08:02:26 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:02:26 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Hillbilly Flywheelers In-Reply-To: <157093AD719F465F8068CF62E426247B@ChuckDesktopPC> Message-ID: Chuck: Have a great time despite the rain! I've wanted to go to that show for several years but, alas, I don't think I'll get the chance. Take care - Elden edurand at mchsi.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Chuck > Emsweller > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 05:44 AM > To: 'The SEL email discussion list' > Subject: [SEL] Hillbilly Flywheelers > > > Headed out the door to the Hillbilly Flywheeler's > engine show in Irvine Ky. > Loading up the 7 HP waterloo and Dad will be > taking his 6 HP fairbanks. > Chances of rain all weekend, but we will still be > spinning the flywheels! > Hope to see some of you there. > > chuck From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Apr 23 10:07:38 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 19:07:38 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100423183824.024db120@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 23/04/2010, you wrote: >Message: 2 >Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:20:56 -0700 >From: Rob Skinner >Subject: Re: [SEL] Totally "Off Topic" question. > > Hi List. > > I see that someone has started a thread on Tinnitus. > >Joe, >I don't know if tinnitius is genetic or an effect of environmental >conditions. Perhaps it's both. But here's something to think about. >Many enginemen have youngins around when we run engines, run machine >tools, bust a cap in the groundhogs, etc. We're doing them harm if we >do so without supplying them with proper hearing protection. > >This is 2010, and we're a lot smarter than we were 50 years ago. Many >of the maladies that we suffer today could have been prevented. Don't >doom your kids to a life of ringing in their ears. > >Rob Hi Rob, You are so right. I think mine came from unclipping the wall speakers of my HiFi from the wall and standing them on the carpet, facing each other, about 2' apart. My head went between them and Niel Diamond, Roger Whittaker and others were played "VERY LOUD". Various adult beverages completed the experience. There WILL be many people suffering from tinnitus in the future with the high powered music players that are fitted to motor cars today. I think some of these actually produce more power than the cars engine and would propel the car by vibration alone. It's amazing how many times I have heard a car in traffic on the highway and thought that it was the car next to me only to discover that it was 5 or 6 cars behind me!! (and that's with the windows closed). Of course, most of it is "Boom Boom" non-music which makes matters worse. Now, back to the "Topic" which is "Off Topic" :-) Wow, it's good too see that all you guys are still out there. I originally started this "Off Topic" thread with the buzz on my telephone. The lists were so quiet that I was beginning to think that most of you "Yanks" had "gone to that big engine room in the sky" in that cold winter you had just experienced or worse, "unsubscribed" (horrors)!! Good to see you are still all there even if it took an "off Topic" post to get you back :-) Keep well, Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 23 15:56:08 2010 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:56:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Tinnitus Message-ID: "Interesting Bruce, I was a O5H2F aviation morse interceptor, with some other duties also 146th aviation co. Long Thanh north 71-72 I never tied my tinnitus with the morse code. or the noise of the planes. but I guess its possible Roger DiRuscio R.E. Realty Experts" You were a few years behind me, Roger. Maybe "Ditty City" was a more humane place by then; I hope so. My hearing was so poor that I seldom worked my MOS in RVN. I spent most of my time as a crypto facility inspector. It's not that I can't hear normal (non-tinnitus) sounds; I can. It's just darned difficult to separate them from the tinnitus much of the time. I know it's as frustrating for people around me as it is for me, but I refuse to become a "nod and smiler" sort. ASA, Sir! Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From rotigel at me.com Fri Apr 23 19:32:56 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:32:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Two shows and transportation In-Reply-To: <11076672.1271988916665.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <11076672.1271988916665.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <57664540-4049-48B2-B240-40AA61D74567@me.com> Hi Tim, Give us the particulars and tell the seller that Arnie and I will be in the second row at the end near the trees. I will have the 16 HP Galloway and probably the baby Reid! Dave On Apr 22, 2010, at 10:15 PM, Tim Christoff wrote: > Hi all, for the first time in all the years I have been playing with > the rusted iron I have found myself in need so some transportation. > I need a clutch pulley picked up at Coolsprings in June and brought > to Portland in August where I can retrieve it. It is a small one, > fits on a 4 hp Myrick so weight and space should not be a problem. > I will galdly pay for any expenses incurred and if requested can > provide the payment in the form of liquid if so desired. I will be > going to the Coolsprings swap in Oct so I can always pick it up then > if nothing should work out. > > Tim Christoff > Basehor, KS. > > Tim Christoff > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Sat Apr 24 01:18:01 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:18:01 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Travel time to engine shows USA Message-ID: Hi all Google maps says it takes 7 hours 33 minutes from Portland, IN to Mount Pleasant, IA. Is this time very conservative?? What would it take if I hooned along right on the speed limit?? being good and not attracting the men in blue of course. Peter, Oz From plowe at exemail.com.au Sat Apr 24 03:42:57 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:42:57 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Accommodation at Portland Show Message-ID: Hi All Does anyone have a bulk accommodation booking with a spare room close to Portland Indiana for the Portland Show, nights wanted are Fri 27th - Sat 28th August. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines From bdb at mchsi.com Sat Apr 24 07:19:00 2010 From: bdb at mchsi.com (Barry) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:19:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Travel time to engine shows USA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Peter I live 45 miles on the other side of Mount Pleasant and I can make the Portland trip from Ottumwa Ia to Portland in under 8 hours pulling a loaded 18' car trailer and stopping for lunch. Usually the men in blue won't bother you for 5 over unless you are weaving in and out of traffic or driving erratically. I can't guarantee that you won't get stopped but I drive 5 to 10 over and have gotten away with it for years. Barry P.SO. we drive on the right side of the road ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 3:18 AM Subject: [SEL] Travel time to engine shows USA > Hi all > > Google maps says it takes 7 hours 33 minutes from Portland, IN to Mount > Pleasant, IA. Is this time very conservative?? > What would it take if I hooned along right on the speed limit?? being good > and not attracting the men in blue of course. > > Peter, Oz > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From alkamminga at hotmail.com Sat Apr 24 08:27:47 2010 From: alkamminga at hotmail.com (Al Kamminga) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:27:47 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Travel time to engine shows USA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My GPS route indicates the trip from Mt Pleasant to Portland is 421 miles and takes 7 hours 23 minutes using the fastest route. I always use just a bit under the speed limit to calculate the time. With fuel stops, road construction, slow traffic, and potty breaks I can usually make the estimate or beat it by a few minutes. Driving 5 mph over the speed limit might save 20 minutes or so and will usually not attract berries and cherries (red and blue lights). The interstate speed limit is 65 in Illinois, 70 in Indiana and Iowa. All other roads are 55 mph. I have noticed in Indiana the last month they have been stopping many more speeders. I think with the economy being down, this is a way to increase revenue for states and cities that are loosing income tax revenue. Just my opinion. Al in Indiana > From: plowe at exemail.com.au > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:18:01 +1000 > Subject: [SEL] Travel time to engine shows USA > > Hi all > > Google maps says it takes 7 hours 33 minutes from Portland, IN to Mount Pleasant, IA. Is this time very conservative?? > What would it take if I hooned along right on the speed limit?? being good and not attracting the men in blue of course. > > Peter, Oz > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 From jerrye at databak.co.za Sat Apr 24 09:54:22 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:54:22 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Modern Briggs & Stratton engine question, Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100424182603.00c87cc0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi All, A friend recently bought a used (but in excellent condition) ride-on mower with a 12 HP Briggs & Stratton I/C engine (vertical shaft). It is approximately 10 to 12 years old and has not been used very much. The Model numbers etc. from the engine (for those who know) are: 291707 400302 91011531. I have often downloaded manuals from the Briggs site without any problem but these numbers just seem to draw a blank ! Does anyone have a manual or a link to one? What happens is that the engine starts easily and runs well but if it is stopped or stalls it is very difficult to start afterwards. A few hours later, when cold, it will start easily again. Can anyone please give me any "pointers" as to where to start looking for the problem? Many thanks in advance for any suggestions. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From edurand at mchsi.com Sat Apr 24 12:31:25 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 14:31:25 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Modern Briggs & Stratton engine question, In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100424182603.00c87cc0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: I dunno about the manual but I'd suspect the ignition condenser. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jerry Evans > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 11:54 AM > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; > sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Modern Briggs & Stratton engine question From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Apr 24 12:29:52 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:29:52 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Ruston & Hornsby 1ZHR Running Message-ID: After a few years laying dormant, and a fairly busy last 12 months, we had the Ruston running yesterday and today. We are still bringing the whole trolley/generator together, but we are probably 85% there. There is an 18mb video file: On the UK server: http://www.stationary-engine.net/For.../Ruston491.mpg on the US Oldengine site: http://www.oldengine.org/members/die.../Ruston491.mpg or on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXNR6UvyaBY I'll remember to take the digicam with me tomorrow! Video was shot with my Sony still camera. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From marinesurveys at msn.com Sat Apr 24 12:51:05 2010 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 15:51:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Ruston & Hornsby 1ZHR Running In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Peter; Thats awesome, what RPM was it turning, looks like a lot Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:29:52 +0100 > From: listerdiesel at gmail.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > CC: stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Subject: [SEL] Ruston & Hornsby 1ZHR Running > > After a few years laying dormant, and a fairly busy last 12 months, we > had the Ruston running yesterday and today. > > We are still bringing the whole trolley/generator together, but we are > probably 85% there. > > There is an 18mb video file: > > On the UK server: > http://www.stationary-engine.net/For.../Ruston491.mpg > > on the US Oldengine site: > http://www.oldengine.org/members/die.../Ruston491.mpg > > or on Youtube: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXNR6UvyaBY > > I'll remember to take the digicam with me tomorrow! Video was shot > with my Sony still camera. > > Peter > > -- > Peter A Forbes > Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel > http://stationary-engine.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Apr 24 13:08:03 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 21:08:03 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Ruston & Hornsby 1ZHR Running In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 24 April 2010 20:51, frank skinner wrote: > > Peter; > > Thats awesome, what RPM was it turning, looks like a lot > > ? ? ? ?Franklin S. Skinner Don't know, to be truthful, I left the rev-counter at home with the video camera! :-(( The engine also has its own mechanicasl rev-counter but it isn't rigged up yet. It is supposed to be 375rpm, but does sound quicker in the video. I'll check it tomorrow. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From plowe at exemail.com.au Sat Apr 24 15:57:56 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 08:57:56 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Travel time to engine shows USA References: Message-ID: Barry Are you coming to the R&V show at Mount Pleasant?? Peter > Hi Peter > > I live 45 miles on the other side of Mount Pleasant and I can make the > Portland trip from Ottumwa Ia to Portland in under 8 hours pulling a > loaded > 18' car trailer and stopping for lunch. Usually the men in blue won't > bother > you for 5 over unless you are weaving in and out of traffic or driving > erratically. I can't guarantee that you won't get stopped but I drive 5 to > 10 over and have gotten away with it for years. > Barry > P.SO. we drive on the right side of the road > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Lowe" > To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" > > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 3:18 AM > Subject: [SEL] Travel time to engine shows USA > > >> Hi all >> >> Google maps says it takes 7 hours 33 minutes from Portland, IN to Mount >> Pleasant, IA. Is this time very conservative?? >> What would it take if I hooned along right on the speed limit?? being >> good >> and not attracting the men in blue of course. >> >> Peter, Oz >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Sun Apr 25 05:30:38 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:30:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland 2010 Message-ID: <4761C84C5D2041BCB517C56C8D56503D@peterlowe> Hi All My son and I are coming over in August for the Mount Pleasant Show. We are trying to also get there for the Friday and Saturday of Portland before we head on down to Iowa. We are after accommodation for the 27th and 28th August close to Portland if anyone can help. I do not care where I sleep nor does my son if anyone can help out. If not we will come over a few days later. Flight seats with Virgin are filling fast and I do not want to miss out booking for Mount Pleasant Sept 2 to 6. We prefer non smoking, just to be fussy ;-)) Please also spread the word around to all R&V engine owners that we would like you all to come to Mount Pleasant as R&V is the feature engine this year. Also there will be a bus trip back to East Moline, Illinois to the original factory, like the 2003 centenary tour, for those who missed out then. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Apr 25 08:25:21 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:25:21 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Ruston & Hornsby 1ZHR Running In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 24 April 2010 20:51, frank skinner wrote: > > Peter; > > Thats awesome, what RPM was it turning, looks like a lot > > ? ? ? ?Franklin 500rpm, a bit over its recommended speed. Have adjusted it down now. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Apr 26 13:42:29 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:42:29 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Ruston & Hornsby 1ZHR Running In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Peter: I think you Limeys have a very nice saying for that show. Brilliant! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > Listerdiesel > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 02:30 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Cc: Stationary-Engine > Subject: [SEL] Ruston & Hornsby 1ZHR Running From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Apr 26 13:44:50 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 22:44:50 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Interesting exercise/ my B&S question. Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100426200257.02b51df8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi all, This could maybe be marked as "Off Topic" (remember your "delete" key) but it stems from the recent post I made for help on a modern Briggs & Stratton engine and I think that some of you may find it interesting.(This post may or may not be quite long - I'm just starting it! :-) I may sometimes come across as a "skinflint" (which I probably am) but, often posts are made to the effect of "Just replace this or that part". "Just" being the operative word in the above statement.This infers taking a "Few Bucks" out of your pocket at the local dealer and buying the new part. This is NOT usually the case where I come from. You guys in the USA and other "civilised countries" do not realise how lucky you are to have a genuine "free market" economy where prices are determined by the amount of competition in the marketplace. That is not the case in a smaller (shitty??) economy like ours which has very little "competition" in certain areas (I do understand the concept of "supply and demand"). (All this since the "New South Africa" happened). The case in point is Mark's very good suggestion that I install a new "Carby kit". (Note to Mark - I'm not in any way "knocking" your suggestion it was good and I'm going to use your advice - I'm only using it as an example). I phoned the local dealers for a price on the "kit". (the engine is about 10 years old - not obsolete by any means and I had the correct Model number etc.). First dealer "Sorry - nothing on my list - Can you bring in a sample?" (I want to do the job tomorrow - that's why I'm looking for parts today!!!) Second dealer "Sorry our "parts guy" is not in today - please call back on Wednesday (tomorrow is Tuesday, a public holiday, and I want the parts to do it tomorrow.) Third dealer "Our parts guy is out - leave your number and he will call you back - I'm still waiting (8:45 pm). O.K. so I decide to call the "Main Dealer" Briggs & Stratton (South Africa). Spend half an hour finding their telephone number (not listed on B&S.com site). Eventually look in my backups and find it from 2 years ago when I was looking for a Briggs coil for my Maytag conversion. Call them - no problem there - they are very helpful and "Vic" (same guy I spoke to 2 years ago) sure knows his job - gives me all the info and part numbers I need. A pleasure to deal with. So back to the dealers. The only one where I actually got to speak to a human - dealer No. 1. Give him the Part # (which he could not find previously - I had to call Head Office for it). Oh yes, that's on the system, but not in stock - you can have it by Thursday. !!!!!!!!!!! Me: O.K. How much is it ? Him: "Hang on a minute, ill find the price" Him Again (5 minutes later): "It's ZAR 428.00" Me again (after picking myself up from the floor). "O.K. Don't order it, I will get back to you". Now comes the real reason for my post (sorry I took so long to get to the point but that's just me). The price!! Currency conversions are not a good way of determining prices (most of you do not know anything about our currency) but, if you can relate it to some other cost in your country that you are familiar with then it will begin to make some kind of sense. I'm going to compare this with the average cost of a 340ml bottle of good beer and maybe you guys will get an idea of the problems facing me/us when it comes to something as simple as buying a "carb kit". I Googled the part # and came up with the following prices all converted to US$): "Briggs & Stratton.com" = $ 22.95 "Briggs & Stratton (South Africa) = $ 58.33 "Sjmparts.com" = $16.54 (Obviously a "Pirate" part - not B&S OEM). "lawnmowerstuff.com" = $16.75 (Obviously a "Pirate" part - not B&S OEM). "Pressureparts.com" = $16.00 (Obviously a "Pirate" part - not B&S OEM). Then I calculated how many South African beers this "carby kit" would cost me. Here are the results. (These figures based on South African beer and then converted with a currency converter.) USA (B&S Original): = 15.61 beers. Sjmparts (non OEM) = 11.25 beers South Africa (B&S Original): 39.66 beers. Another "Google" brought up these figures. The average South African has to work for an hour and five minutes to earn enough to buy a beer, whereas it takes a US worker only 10 minutes. se: O.K. all for now - just some figures that I thought you guys may find interesting - how big business screws us small guys - maybe it should have gone to "Slick" :-) Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Apr 26 15:22:27 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:22:27 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Interesting exercise/ my B&S question. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100426200257.02b51df8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: Oh, goodie, goodie! Look what we get to look forward to! Can't wait. :-( You have my condolences. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jerry Evans > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 03:45 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; > stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Subject: [SEL] Interesting exercise/ my B&S question. > > > Hi all, > This could maybe be marked as "Off > Topic" (remember your "delete" > key) but it stems from the recent post I made for > help on a modern Briggs & > Stratton engine and I think that some of you may > find it interesting.(This > post may or may not be quite long - I'm just > starting it! :-) > > I may sometimes come across as a > "skinflint" (which I probably am) > but, often posts are made to the effect of "Just > replace this or that part". > > "Just" being the operative word in the > above statement.This infers > taking a "Few Bucks" out of your pocket at the > local dealer and buying the > new part. > > This is NOT usually the case where I > come from. You guys in the > USA and other "civilised countries" do not > realise how lucky you are to > have a genuine "free market" economy where prices > are determined by the > amount of competition in the marketplace. > > That is not the case in a smaller > (shitty??) economy like ours > which has very little "competition" in certain > areas (I do understand the > concept of "supply and demand"). (All this since > the "New South Africa" > happened). > > The case in point is Mark's very good > suggestion that I install a > new "Carby kit". (Note to Mark - I'm not in any > way "knocking" your > suggestion it was good and I'm going to use your > advice - I'm only using it > as an example). > > I phoned the local dealers for a price > on the "kit". (the engine > is about 10 years old - not obsolete by any means > and I had the correct > Model number etc.). > > First dealer "Sorry - nothing on my list - Can > you bring in a sample?" (I > want to do the job tomorrow - that's why I'm > looking for parts today!!!) > > Second dealer "Sorry our "parts guy" is not in > today - please call back on > Wednesday (tomorrow is Tuesday, a public holiday, > and I want the parts to > do it tomorrow.) > > Third dealer "Our parts guy is out - leave your > number and he will call you > back - I'm still waiting (8:45 pm). > > O.K. so I decide to call the "Main > Dealer" Briggs & Stratton > (South Africa). Spend half an hour finding their > telephone number (not > listed on B&S.com site). Eventually look in my > backups and find it from 2 > years ago when I was looking for a Briggs coil > for my Maytag conversion. > > Call them - no problem there - they are > very helpful and "Vic" > (same guy I spoke to 2 years ago) sure knows his > job - gives me all the > info and part numbers I need. A pleasure to deal with. > > So back to the dealers. The only one > where I actually got to speak > to a human - dealer No. 1. > > Give him the Part # (which he could not > find previously - I had to > call Head Office for it). Oh yes, that's on the > system, but not in stock - > you can have it by Thursday. !!!!!!!!!!! > > Me: O.K. How much is it ? > > Him: "Hang on a minute, ill find the price" > > Him Again (5 minutes later): "It's ZAR 428.00" > > Me again (after picking myself up from > the floor). "O.K. Don't > order it, I will get back to you". > > Now comes the real reason for my post > (sorry I took so long to get > to the point but that's just me). The price!! > > Currency conversions are not a good way > of determining prices > (most of you do not know anything about our > currency) but, if you can > relate it to some other cost in your country that > you are familiar with > then it will begin to make some kind of sense. > > I'm going to compare this with the > average cost of a 340ml bottle > of good beer and maybe you guys will get an idea > of the problems facing > me/us when it comes to something as simple as > buying a "carb kit". > > I Googled the part # and came up with > the following prices all > converted to US$): > > "Briggs & Stratton.com" = $ 22.95 > "Briggs & Stratton (South Africa) = $ 58.33 > "Sjmparts.com" = $16.54 (Obviously a "Pirate" > part - not B&S OEM). > "lawnmowerstuff.com" = $16.75 (Obviously a > "Pirate" part - not B&S OEM). > "Pressureparts.com" = $16.00 (Obviously a > "Pirate" part - not B&S OEM). > > Then I calculated how many South African > beers this "carby kit" > would cost me. Here are the results. (These > figures based on South African > beer and then converted with a currency converter.) > > USA (B&S Original): = 15.61 beers. > Sjmparts (non OEM) = 11.25 beers > South Africa (B&S Original): 39.66 beers. > > > Another "Google" brought up these > figures. The average South > African has to work for an hour and five minutes > to earn enough to buy a > beer, whereas it takes a US worker only 10 minutes. > se: > > > > O.K. all for now - just some figures > that I thought you guys may > find interesting - how big business screws us > small guys - maybe it should > have gone to "Slick" :-) > > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From falcon at telenet.net Mon Apr 26 17:08:16 2010 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:08:16 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Interesting exercise/ my B&S question. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20100426200257.02b51df8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100426200257.02b51df8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <4BD62AF0.8050201@telenet.net> Jerry Evans wrote: > Hi all, > This could maybe be marked as "Off Topic" (remember your "delete" > key) but it stems from the recent post I made for help on a modern Briggs & > Stratton engine and I think that some of you may find it interesting.(This > post may or may not be quite long - I'm just starting it! :-) > > I may sometimes come across as a "skinflint" (which I probably am) > but, often posts are made to the effect of "Just replace this or that part". > > "Just" being the operative word in the above statement.This infers > taking a "Few Bucks" out of your pocket at the local dealer and buying the > new part. > > This is NOT usually the case where I come from. You guys in the > USA and other "civilised countries" do not realise how lucky you are to > have a genuine "free market" economy where prices are determined by the > amount of competition in the marketplace. > > That is not the case in a smaller (shitty??) economy like ours > which has very little "competition" in certain areas (I do understand the > concept of "supply and demand"). (All this since the "New South Africa" > happened). > > The case in point is Mark's very good suggestion that I install a > new "Carby kit". (Note to Mark - I'm not in any way "knocking" your > suggestion it was good and I'm going to use your advice - I'm only using it > as an example). > > I phoned the local dealers for a price on the "kit". (the engine > is about 10 years old - not obsolete by any means and I had the correct > Model number etc.). > > First dealer "Sorry - nothing on my list - Can you bring in a sample?" (I > want to do the job tomorrow - that's why I'm looking for parts today!!!) > > Second dealer "Sorry our "parts guy" is not in today - please call back on > Wednesday (tomorrow is Tuesday, a public holiday, and I want the parts to > do it tomorrow.) > > Third dealer "Our parts guy is out - leave your number and he will call you > back - I'm still waiting (8:45 pm). > > O.K. so I decide to call the "Main Dealer" Briggs & Stratton > (South Africa). Spend half an hour finding their telephone number (not > listed on B&S.com site). Eventually look in my backups and find it from 2 > years ago when I was looking for a Briggs coil for my Maytag conversion. > > Call them - no problem there - they are very helpful and "Vic" > (same guy I spoke to 2 years ago) sure knows his job - gives me all the > info and part numbers I need. A pleasure to deal with. > > So back to the dealers. The only one where I actually got to speak > to a human - dealer No. 1. > > Give him the Part # (which he could not find previously - I had to > call Head Office for it). Oh yes, that's on the system, but not in stock - > you can have it by Thursday. !!!!!!!!!!! > > Me: O.K. How much is it ? > > Him: "Hang on a minute, ill find the price" > > Him Again (5 minutes later): "It's ZAR 428.00" > > Me again (after picking myself up from the floor). "O.K. Don't > order it, I will get back to you". > > Now comes the real reason for my post (sorry I took so long to get > to the point but that's just me). The price!! > > Currency conversions are not a good way of determining prices > (most of you do not know anything about our currency) but, if you can > relate it to some other cost in your country that you are familiar with > then it will begin to make some kind of sense. > > I'm going to compare this with the average cost of a 340ml bottle > of good beer and maybe you guys will get an idea of the problems facing > me/us when it comes to something as simple as buying a "carb kit". > > I Googled the part # and came up with the following prices all > converted to US$): > > "Briggs & Stratton.com" = $ 22.95 > "Briggs & Stratton (South Africa) = $ 58.33 > "Sjmparts.com" = $16.54 (Obviously a "Pirate" part - not B&S OEM). > "lawnmowerstuff.com" = $16.75 (Obviously a "Pirate" part - not B&S OEM). > "Pressureparts.com" = $16.00 (Obviously a "Pirate" part - not B&S OEM). The parts you call a pirate part are likely Stens parts. They make a LOT of aftermarket parts for just about every small engine out there. Many are as good or better than the factory stuff. Some (pistons and rods come to mind) depend on where they had the part made. > > Then I calculated how many South African beers this "carby kit" > would cost me. Here are the results. (These figures based on South African > beer and then converted with a currency converter.) > > USA (B&S Original): = 15.61 beers. > Sjmparts (non OEM) = 11.25 beers > South Africa (B&S Original): 39.66 beers. > > > Another "Google" brought up these figures. The average South > African has to work for an hour and five minutes to earn enough to buy a > beer, whereas it takes a US worker only 10 minutes. > se: > > > O.K. all for now - just some figures that I thought you guys may > find interesting - how big business screws us small guys - maybe it should > have gone to "Slick" :-) > > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > How much of a problem would it be to have parts shipped to you directly from the US from say another member of the list? -- Steve W. (\___/) (='.'=) (")_(") From rob at rustyiron.com Mon Apr 26 19:54:45 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 19:54:45 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker Message-ID: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> Have you SEEN this engine collector on Facebook? What's up with that guy, anyway? http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=743264506 From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Mon Apr 26 20:14:18 2010 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Rick Rowlands) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 23:14:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <17a401cae5b7$b953c050$6401a8c0@PC179134136174> Some lunatic TEA Partier fanatic if you ask me! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "Stationary-Engine ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:54 PM Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker > Have you SEEN this engine collector on Facebook? > What's up with that guy, anyway? > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=743264506 > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon Apr 26 20:16:42 2010 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 23:16:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Looks like a cool dude to me! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:55 PM To: Stationary-Engine ATIS; Oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker Have you SEEN this engine collector on Facebook? What's up with that guy, anyway? http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=743264506 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2820 - Release Date: 04/26/10 06:31:00 From solarrog at pacbell.net Mon Apr 26 20:32:08 2010 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:32:08 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <59EB5FAE02A844999DDDF44880F8B54A@D6R3D961> what's you point? it brings up my page Roger DiRuscio R.E. Realty Experts Broker Associate #615513 Fremont, Ca 94539 510-226-2414 ofc message line Ham radio KG6QKZ (gen) Fremont CERT volunteer "Ardenwood" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "Stationary-Engine ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 7:54 PM Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker > Have you SEEN this engine collector on Facebook? > What's up with that guy, anyway? > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=743264506 > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From gop4evr at lsol.net Mon Apr 26 21:24:55 2010 From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 23:24:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <59EB5FAE02A844999DDDF44880F8B54A@D6R3D961> References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> <59EB5FAE02A844999DDDF44880F8B54A@D6R3D961> Message-ID: <4BD66717.7090809@lsol.net> > what's you point? > it brings up my page > > Doh! ;-) From solarrog at pacbell.net Mon Apr 26 21:42:22 2010 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 21:42:22 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com><59EB5FAE02A844999DDDF44880F8B54A@D6R3D961> <4BD66717.7090809@lsol.net> Message-ID: <566E2AB3EF9E4AEB8834717B8A2838BE@D6R3D961> Doh! ;-) now thats funny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelson Johnsrud" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker > >> what's your point? >> it brings up my page >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue Apr 27 00:46:16 2010 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:46:16 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <87081F2AA18C481C90EDBBB48DEFDE83@morpheus> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "Stationary-Engine ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:54 AM Subject: Facebook Joker > Have you SEEN this engine collector on Facebook? > What's up with that guy, anyway? > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=743264506 Hi Rob, I don't even remember having those two photo's taken but when I see the daft expression on my face I understand why I don't remember. I can tell by the fact of me wearing my Bowler Hat that it was the second Wednesday of a month and I had spent the evening at the "Sons of the Desert" meeting, laughing and drinking to the old movies of Stan and Ollie!! Dave Croft Warrington. http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ullerman/OnslowPark09# From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 27 03:13:09 2010 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 03:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <125614.14151.qm@web111718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Watch it Rob!!! I resemble that remark. Alan in Michigan --- On Mon, 4/26/10, Rob Skinner wrote: From: Rob Skinner Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker To: "Stationary-Engine ATIS" , "Oldengine.org" Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 10:54 PM Have you SEEN this engine collector on Facebook? What's up with that guy, anyway? http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=743264506 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Apr 27 06:04:10 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:04:10 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year Message-ID: Hi All Is there a LIST dinner at the Back40 Decatur Saturday night during the Portland show this year. Need to know ASAP as there are plenty of rooms still in Decatur, one is next door to Back40. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines From rotigel at me.com Tue Apr 27 07:15:23 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:15:23 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Apparently you need to sign up on Facebook in order to view this page. Since I don't have the time to tell the world every time I fart I guess I'll pass on this one! Dave On Apr 26, 2010, at 10:54 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > Have you SEEN this engine collector on Facebook? > What's up with that guy, anyway? > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=743264506 From b2 at chooka.net Tue Apr 27 07:50:49 2010 From: b2 at chooka.net (Bill Brueck) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:50:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <000301cae619$0681a110$1384e330$@net> Clever, Rob. You had me wondering for a bit there... Bill Brueck Pine Island, MN USA -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:55 PM To: Stationary-Engine ATIS; Oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker Have you SEEN this engine collector on Facebook? What's up with that guy, anyway? http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=743264506 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Apr 27 09:10:54 2010 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:10:54 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You can tell us, Dave. We care. Also, we want to be forewarned so we can get outta the vicinity. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of David > Rotigel > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 09:15 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker > > > Apparently you need to sign up on Facebook in > order to view this page. > Since I don't have the time to tell the world > every time I fart I > guess I'll pass on this one! > Dave From rob at rustyiron.com Tue Apr 27 08:38:02 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:38:02 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <000301cae619$0681a110$1384e330$@net> References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> <000301cae619$0681a110$1384e330$@net> Message-ID: On Apr 27, 2010, at 7:50 AM, Bill Brueck wrote: > Clever, Rob. You had me wondering for a bit there... Heh, heh, heh. Someone got me good, too. Just thought it was clever enough to pass on. From George_Best at adp.com Tue Apr 27 08:52:46 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:52:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> <000301cae619$0681a110$1384e330$@net> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3A6B7837@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Maybe a facebook user could tell us non-facebook users what you're seeing. Like Dave, I have no interest in signing up for Facebook. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:38 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker On Apr 27, 2010, at 7:50 AM, Bill Brueck wrote: > Clever, Rob. You had me wondering for a bit there... Heh, heh, heh. Someone got me good, too. Just thought it was clever enough to pass on. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From rob at rustyiron.com Tue Apr 27 09:48:39 2010 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:48:39 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3A6B7837@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> <000301cae619$0681a110$1384e330$@net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3A6B7837@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <80D6A231-1590-45C5-ACA3-D9DEAB2B7603@rustyiron.com> On Apr 27, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Best, George wrote: > Maybe a facebook user could tell us non-facebook users what you're > seeing. > > Like Dave, I have no interest in signing up for Facebook. Nah, you wouldn't get it, George. It's an inside joker sort of thing. You kinda had to be there. :-) Rob From gop4evr at lsol.net Tue Apr 27 10:42:24 2010 From: gop4evr at lsol.net (Nelson Johnsrud) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 12:42:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3A6B7837@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> <000301cae619$0681a110$1384e330$@net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3A6B7837@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <4BD72200.8040409@lsol.net> > Maybe a facebook user could tell us non-facebook users what you're seeing. > > Like Dave, I have no interest in signing up for Facebook. Think of it as a web-based mirror. Very creepy . . . . . Nels Johnsrud Manitowoc WI From rotigel at me.com Tue Apr 27 13:24:22 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:24:22 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3A6B7837@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> <000301cae619$0681a110$1384e330$@net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3A6B7837@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: Hi George, I think some engine collector in KA farted! Dave On Apr 27, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Best, George wrote: > Maybe a facebook user could tell us non-facebook users what you're > seeing. > > Like Dave, I have no interest in signing up for Facebook. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > ] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:38 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker > > > On Apr 27, 2010, at 7:50 AM, Bill Brueck wrote: > >> Clever, Rob. You had me wondering for a bit there... > > Heh, heh, heh. Someone got me good, too. Just thought it was clever > enough to pass on. > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of > the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and > confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended > recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, > you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication > is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in > error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message > and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Apr 27 13:49:18 2010 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:49:18 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20100427223859.00cd71b0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 27/04/2010, you wrote: >Message: 14 >Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:15:23 -0400 >From: David Rotigel >Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker >To: The SEL email discussion list > >Apparently you need to sign up on Facebook in order to view this page. >Since I don't have the time to tell the world every time I fart I >guess I'll pass on this one! > Dave Hi Dave, My sentiments exactly and I'm nowhere near as old as you!! Is all this modern technology passing me by?!! I actually did "sign up" (with a disposable addy) to see what this post was all about but never managed to get to the link. While there I did a little searching - quite amazing how many list members names I found!! Oh well!! I reckon I'll just stay with SEL and Oldengine. Great people and all the friends I need. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: P.S. Does this qualify me as a dinosaur ? From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Apr 27 14:16:43 2010 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:16:43 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year References: <20100427084051.ym20nn6c0ccw4484@100megs28.com> Message-ID: <2719426FEB134BBF90462EE8B93E7140@peterlowe> OK, bummer, we are gettng there Friday Saturday, might try and change that. I now have a room in Decatur Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines > Peter, > > Last I knew the dinner was on Thursday night. > > They might have changed since its been awhile since I've gone to Portland. > > George > > > Quoting Peter Lowe : > >> Hi All >> Is there a LIST dinner at the Back40 Decatur Saturday night during the >> Portland show this year. >> Need to know ASAP as there are plenty of rooms still in Decatur, one is >> next door to Back40. >> >> Regards >> Peter Lowe >> R&V Engine Registrar >> Australia >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >> Skype name: ozengines >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > > From rotigel at me.com Tue Apr 27 14:40:50 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:40:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Travel time to engine shows USA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Google figures actual driving time. If you plan to stop to urinate you will need to add that to the 7 hours 33 minutes. Dave PS, Anymore Arnie and I ADD about 17.69% to the suggested driving time! On Apr 24, 2010, at 4:18 AM, Peter Lowe wrote: > Hi all > > Google maps says it takes 7 hours 33 minutes from Portland, IN to > Mount Pleasant, IA. Is this time very conservative?? > What would it take if I hooned along right on the speed limit?? > being good and not attracting the men in blue of course. > > Peter, Oz From rotigel at me.com Tue Apr 27 15:11:30 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:11:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7D159C0D-99AC-4078-9191-FA4B9A003511@me.com> The dinner will (once again) be on Thursday. I'll be announcing it soon. Dave On Apr 27, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Peter Lowe wrote: > Hi All > Is there a LIST dinner at the Back40 Decatur Saturday night during > the Portland show this year. > Need to know ASAP as there are plenty of rooms still in Decatur, one > is next door to Back40. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > Skype name: ozengines > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Tue Apr 27 15:38:00 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 08:38:00 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100427223859.00cd71b0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <337F1109DF0D40DD9B1EA489748A3DF0@regpc> Jerry, I just signed up yesterday. I will give it a go and form my own opinions on it. If I find it irksome, I can always drop it. It will be interesting to learn what its about. Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Evans" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:49 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker > At 06:00 PM 27/04/2010, you wrote: >>Message: 14 >>Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:15:23 -0400 >>From: David Rotigel >>Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker >>To: The SEL email discussion list >> >>Apparently you need to sign up on Facebook in order to view this page. >>Since I don't have the time to tell the world every time I fart I >>guess I'll pass on this one! >> Dave > > Hi Dave, > My sentiments exactly and I'm nowhere near as old as you!! Is all > this modern technology passing me by?!! > > I actually did "sign up" (with a disposable addy) to see what this > post was all about but never managed to get to the link. While there I did > a little searching - quite amazing how many list members names I found!! > > Oh well!! I reckon I'll just stay with SEL and Oldengine. Great > people and all the friends I need. > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > P.S. Does this qualify me as a dinosaur ? > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Tue Apr 27 16:10:01 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:10:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <337F1109DF0D40DD9B1EA489748A3DF0@regpc> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100427223859.00cd71b0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <337F1109DF0D40DD9B1EA489748A3DF0@regpc> Message-ID: <4FD6F1C2-A4F3-4BFE-A015-757F217B0D1A@me.com> Hell Reg, You said the same thing about AIDS and THAT didn't work out so well! Dave On Apr 27, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Reg Ingold wrote: > Jerry, I just signed up yesterday. I will give it a go and form my own > opinions on it. If I find it irksome, I can always drop it. > It will be interesting to learn what its about. > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle.NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Evans" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:49 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker > > >> At 06:00 PM 27/04/2010, you wrote: >>> Message: 14 >>> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:15:23 -0400 >>> From: David Rotigel >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker >>> To: The SEL email discussion list >>> >>> Apparently you need to sign up on Facebook in order to view this >>> page. >>> Since I don't have the time to tell the world every time I fart I >>> guess I'll pass on this one! >>> Dave >> >> Hi Dave, >> My sentiments exactly and I'm nowhere near as old as you!! >> Is all >> this modern technology passing me by?!! >> >> I actually did "sign up" (with a disposable addy) to see >> what this >> post was all about but never managed to get to the link. While >> there I did >> a little searching - quite amazing how many list members names I >> found!! >> >> Oh well!! I reckon I'll just stay with SEL and Oldengine. >> Great >> people and all the friends I need. >> >> Keep the revs up (or down) >> Jerry Evans >> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: >> >> >> P.S. Does this qualify me as a dinosaur ? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Tue Apr 27 17:28:01 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:28:01 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100427223859.00cd71b0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><337F1109DF0D40DD9B1EA489748A3DF0@regpc> <4FD6F1C2-A4F3-4BFE-A015-757F217B0D1A@me.com> Message-ID: <808E0943A4AF4029B1A2E8F88BF27662@regpc> Your point? Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker > Hell Reg, You said the same thing about AIDS and THAT didn't work out > so well! > Dave > > On Apr 27, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Reg Ingold wrote: > >> Jerry, I just signed up yesterday. I will give it a go and form my own >> opinions on it. If I find it irksome, I can always drop it. >> It will be interesting to learn what its about. >> Reg & Marg Ingold >> Newcastle.NSW Australia >> randmingold at hotkey.net.au >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jerry Evans" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:49 AM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker >> >> >>> At 06:00 PM 27/04/2010, you wrote: >>>> Message: 14 >>>> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:15:23 -0400 >>>> From: David Rotigel >>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker >>>> To: The SEL email discussion list >>>> >>>> Apparently you need to sign up on Facebook in order to view this >>>> page. >>>> Since I don't have the time to tell the world every time I fart I >>>> guess I'll pass on this one! >>>> Dave >>> >>> Hi Dave, >>> My sentiments exactly and I'm nowhere near as old as you!! >>> Is all >>> this modern technology passing me by?!! >>> >>> I actually did "sign up" (with a disposable addy) to see >>> what this >>> post was all about but never managed to get to the link. While >>> there I did >>> a little searching - quite amazing how many list members names I >>> found!! >>> >>> Oh well!! I reckon I'll just stay with SEL and Oldengine. >>> Great >>> people and all the friends I need. >>> >>> Keep the revs up (or down) >>> Jerry Evans >>> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >>> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: >>> >>> >>> P.S. Does this qualify me as a dinosaur ? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Tue Apr 27 17:39:35 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:39:35 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: <808E0943A4AF4029B1A2E8F88BF27662@regpc> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100427223859.00cd71b0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <337F1109DF0D40DD9B1EA489748A3DF0@regpc> <4FD6F1C2-A4F3-4BFE-A015-757F217B0D1A@me.com> <808E0943A4AF4029B1A2E8F88BF27662@regpc> Message-ID: <8B952127-5AB1-432E-AB44-94E880BC585F@me.com> Protect your PRIVATE PARTS at all times! Dave On Apr 27, 2010, at 8:28 PM, Reg Ingold wrote: > Your point? > Reg & Marg Ingold > Newcastle.NSW Australia > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Rotigel" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 9:10 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker > > >> Hell Reg, You said the same thing about AIDS and THAT didn't work out >> so well! >> Dave >> >> On Apr 27, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Reg Ingold wrote: >> >>> Jerry, I just signed up yesterday. I will give it a go and form my >>> own >>> opinions on it. If I find it irksome, I can always drop it. >>> It will be interesting to learn what its about. >>> Reg & Marg Ingold >>> Newcastle.NSW Australia >>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jerry Evans" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:49 AM >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker >>> >>> >>>> At 06:00 PM 27/04/2010, you wrote: >>>>> Message: 14 >>>>> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:15:23 -0400 >>>>> From: David Rotigel >>>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker >>>>> To: The SEL email discussion list >>>> engine.com> >>>>> >>>>> Apparently you need to sign up on Facebook in order to view this >>>>> page. >>>>> Since I don't have the time to tell the world every time I fart I >>>>> guess I'll pass on this one! >>>>> Dave >>>> >>>> Hi Dave, >>>> My sentiments exactly and I'm nowhere near as old as you!! >>>> Is all >>>> this modern technology passing me by?!! >>>> >>>> I actually did "sign up" (with a disposable addy) to see >>>> what this >>>> post was all about but never managed to get to the link. While >>>> there I did >>>> a little searching - quite amazing how many list members names I >>>> found!! >>>> >>>> Oh well!! I reckon I'll just stay with SEL and Oldengine. >>>> Great >>>> people and all the friends I need. >>>> >>>> Keep the revs up (or down) >>>> Jerry Evans >>>> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >>>> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: >>>> >>>> >>>> P.S. Does this qualify me as a dinosaur ? >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Tue Apr 27 17:46:11 2010 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:46:11 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker References: <5.2.1.1.2.20100427223859.00cd71b0@mail.cyberserv.co.za><337F1109DF0D40DD9B1EA489748A3DF0@regpc><4FD6F1C2-A4F3-4BFE-A015-757F217B0D1A@me.com><808E0943A4AF4029B1A2E8F88BF27662@regpc> <8B952127-5AB1-432E-AB44-94E880BC585F@me.com> Message-ID: I dont see the point in protecting the un employed! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker > Protect your PRIVATE PARTS at all times! > Dave > > On Apr 27, 2010, at 8:28 PM, Reg Ingold wrote: > >> Your point? >> Reg & Marg Ingold >> Newcastle.NSW Australia >> randmingold at hotkey.net.au >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Rotigel" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 9:10 AM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker >> >> >>> Hell Reg, You said the same thing about AIDS and THAT didn't work out >>> so well! >>> Dave >>> >>> On Apr 27, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Reg Ingold wrote: >>> >>>> Jerry, I just signed up yesterday. I will give it a go and form my >>>> own >>>> opinions on it. If I find it irksome, I can always drop it. >>>> It will be interesting to learn what its about. >>>> Reg & Marg Ingold >>>> Newcastle.NSW Australia >>>> randmingold at hotkey.net.au >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Jerry Evans" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:49 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker >>>> >>>> >>>>> At 06:00 PM 27/04/2010, you wrote: >>>>>> Message: 14 >>>>>> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:15:23 -0400 >>>>>> From: David Rotigel >>>>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] Facebook Joker >>>>>> To: The SEL email discussion list >>>>> engine.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> Apparently you need to sign up on Facebook in order to view this >>>>>> page. >>>>>> Since I don't have the time to tell the world every time I fart I >>>>>> guess I'll pass on this one! >>>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> Hi Dave, >>>>> My sentiments exactly and I'm nowhere near as old as you!! >>>>> Is all >>>>> this modern technology passing me by?!! >>>>> >>>>> I actually did "sign up" (with a disposable addy) to see >>>>> what this >>>>> post was all about but never managed to get to the link. While >>>>> there I did >>>>> a little searching - quite amazing how many list members names I >>>>> found!! >>>>> >>>>> Oh well!! I reckon I'll just stay with SEL and Oldengine. >>>>> Great >>>>> people and all the friends I need. >>>>> >>>>> Keep the revs up (or down) >>>>> Jerry Evans >>>>> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >>>>> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> P.S. Does this qualify me as a dinosaur ? >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SEL mailing list >>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue Apr 27 18:35:55 2010 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 21:35:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0BCC11521BBF4A12BDE750EDC51E406C@laruecounty.courthouse> But Reg here in the US you can draw unemployment for a long time. One guy I chatted with the other day said "I like it better than working". Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY I dont see the point in protecting the un employed! Reg & Marg Ingold Newcastle.NSW Australia randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > Protect your PRIVATE PARTS at all times! > Dave > > From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 22:52:17 2010 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 06:52:17 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year In-Reply-To: <7D159C0D-99AC-4078-9191-FA4B9A003511@me.com> References: <7D159C0D-99AC-4078-9191-FA4B9A003511@me.com> Message-ID: On 27 April 2010 23:11, David Rotigel wrote: > The dinner will (once again) be on Thursday. I'll be announcing it soon. > ? ? ? ?Dave I'll need to go and find some King Dick spanners for the auction then :-)) Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From tchristoff at earthlink.net Wed Apr 28 10:33:14 2010 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 13:33:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year Message-ID: <19509584.1272475994310.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Better bring more than one Peter, more than one person may like to bid on them agian this year. Tim -----Original Message----- >From: Listerdiesel >Sent: Apr 28, 2010 1:52 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year > >On 27 April 2010 23:11, David Rotigel wrote: >> The dinner will (once again) be on Thursday. I'll be announcing it soon. >> ? ? ? ?Dave > >I'll need to go and find some King Dick spanners for the auction then :-)) > >Peter >-- >Peter A Forbes >Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com >http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel >http://stationary-engine.co.uk >http://www.oldengine.co.uk > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From George_Best at adp.com Wed Apr 28 10:41:36 2010 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:41:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year In-Reply-To: <19509584.1272475994310.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <19509584.1272475994310.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3A7472ED@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Tim, Isn't that the point of an auction? To have multiple people bidding on a single item. ;-) If you have enough for everyone to get one, there is no incentive to bid the price higher to get one. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tim Christoff Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:33 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year Better bring more than one Peter, more than one person may like to bid on them agian this year. Tim This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From tchristoff at earthlink.net Wed Apr 28 11:04:58 2010 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:04:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year Message-ID: <5128301.1272477898362.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Very true George, I just don't want to get my butt kicked by a little girl again. The stare that I kept getting from her last year everytime I bid her up was more than I could take. Tim -----Original Message----- >From: "Best, George" >Sent: Apr 28, 2010 1:41 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year > >Tim, > >Isn't that the point of an auction? To have multiple people bidding on a single item. ;-) > >If you have enough for everyone to get one, there is no incentive to bid the price higher to get one. > >George > > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Tim Christoff >Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:33 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year > >Better bring more than one Peter, more than one person may like to bid on them agian this year. > >Tim > > >This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Tim Christoff From rotigel at me.com Wed Apr 28 12:12:01 2010 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:12:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Is there a dinner sat night Portland this year In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3A7472ED@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <19509584.1272475994310.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40F3A7472ED@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: On Apr 28, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Best, George wrote: > Tim, > If you have enough for everyone to get one, there is no incentive to > bid the price higher to get one. > > George That, George, depends GREATLY on how much beer has been consumed AND who might have stolen (Hi Dolly) my bid card! Dave From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Apr 28 21:44:11 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:44:11 -0700 Subject: [SEL] More Witte cart. Message-ID: <20100428.214450.1097.81938@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> Hi all. Yesterday I sand blasted the Witte cart, today I sanded it smooth and took to powder coater. I added some pictures after blasting to show details of construction. This is the one with the automotive type steering. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/WitteCart# Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 From weolson at wiktel.com Wed Apr 28 21:50:08 2010 From: weolson at wiktel.com (William Olson) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:50:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Facebook Joker, OT In-Reply-To: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> References: <0D5374D7-F098-4C78-8838-699C4C1AA3E7@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <1107372525.20100428235008@wiktel.com> Hi Rob, Monday, April 26, 2010, 9:54:45 PM, you wrote: RS> Have you SEEN this engine collector on Facebook? RS> What's up with that guy, anyway? RS> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=743264506 RS> _______________________________________________ RS> SEL mailing list RS> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com RS> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel He's just fed up with the all the liberals in charge who are spending our and our grandchildren's money, which they don't yet have, on things that we don't need, can't afford and don't want. Our deficit is out of sight and getting worse. -- Thanks, William mailto:weolson at wiktel.com Outgoing mail checked by Comodo AntiVirus From marinesurveys at msn.com Thu Apr 29 02:06:01 2010 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 05:06:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] More Witte cart. In-Reply-To: <20100428.214450.1097.81938@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> References: <20100428.214450.1097.81938@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Awesome job Ron, congrats Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:44:11 -0700 > From: rdhaskell at juno.com > Subject: [SEL] More Witte cart. > > Hi all. > Yesterday I sand blasted the Witte cart, today I sanded it smooth and > took to powder coater. I added some pictures after blasting to show > details of construction. This is the one with the automotive type > steering. > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/WitteCart# > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! > http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Apr 29 15:23:15 2010 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:23:15 EDT Subject: [SEL] More Witte cart. Message-ID: <83f1f.2541f01b.390b60d3@aol.com> Nice job there Ron. Lots of time and work involved. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com From rdhaskell at juno.com Thu Apr 29 16:00:08 2010 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:00:08 -0700 Subject: [SEL] More Witte cart. Message-ID: <20100429.160046.965.153518@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> Thanks Tom. Yes I spent more time designing the front axle than on all other operations combined. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:23:15 EDT Germoamer at aol.com writes: > Nice job there Ron. Lots of time and work involved. > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com ____________________________________________________________ 2547% Penny Stock Picks? Our last pick exploded 2547% - Join our free newsletter today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bda0fb4813ea1cee3dst03vuc From falcon at telenet.net Thu Apr 29 20:34:57 2010 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 23:34:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] New Harbor Freight website it has a major security hole. Message-ID: <4BDA4FE1.3000103@telenet.net> DO NOT USE IT!!!! I went there and looked it over. Yes it's slow. They have a notice that if you had an account prior to the 19 you need to sign up for a new one. I clicked the account button to create a new account. Instead of getting any type of account log in or sign-up page I was sent to the account of a person who lives in the 914 area of NY. It listed the name,address,phone numbers and recent orders for this person. Thinking this was a glitch I tried to exit and reload the page. It brought up a new page with the account information of a person in Wisconsin! I closed down the browser, flushed the memory and went back to the site to see if I could get in. Went to the same "secure" section of the site and tried the account button again. It took me to yet another members account information! I just sent the customer service an E-mail about it but don't know if they will take action. -- Steve W. (\___/) (='.'=) (")_(")