[SEL] Lister 5-1 progress/ it's first show
Renee Mathieson
mathjr at optusnet.com.au
Fri Nov 27 15:49:11 PST 2009
Hi Jerry, I have used a pepper grinder to grind course pepper into a tractor
radiator and it is still holding 3 years on cheers John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Evans" <jerrye at databak.co.za>
To: <stationary-engine at oldengine.org>; <sel at lists.stationary-engine.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 8:41 AM
Subject: [SEL] Lister 5-1 progress/ it's first show
> Hi all you great Guys and Girls in engine land,
>
> Tonight I'm having a few quiet "Brandy & Cokes" by myself in
> celebration.
>
> The Lister 5-1 is finished (O.K. it still needs the radiator leaks
> fixed and a trolley).
>
> About 2 hours ago I got back home after offloading it at my friend
> Neville Botha's house in preparation for tomorrows show - "Neville's Open
> Day" an important date on our calendar.
>
> Neville is a great friend and one of South Africa's foremost
> collectors and restorers (and probably my mentor in this crazy hobby that
> we all share).
>
> When I found and bought this engine, it was Neville who went with
> me to collect and help load it on the 17th August:
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/lister51/index.htm>
>
> I decided at that time that it would have it's first showing at
> his annual open day (tomorrow 28th November)and although this may seem
> like
> more than enough time to some list members I am not on the "seven day
> weekend" yet so it was quite tight.
>
> This is my first diesel engine (although I have the 12 HP Witte CD
> just waiting to be completed) and I have to say that "I'm thrilled. I've
> learnt so much about diesel engines on this project and I absolutely love
> this Lister (although maybe not as illustrious as many engines restored
> and
> owned by other list members) this Lister diesel embodies everything that I
> love about this hobby:
> a) It runs beautifully - "just thumps away" with a beat that is
> breathtaking.
>
> b) It is historically significant - development began in about
> 1929 and production only ended in the late 1970's (not counting
> "Listeroids"). One of the most successful engines ever produced.
>
> c) It's "build and design" is typical of how the "Old Guys" built
> stuff - big and strong and meant to last a lifetime or more.
>
> d) It's rugged and tough. These engines were capable of doing
> their duty even when badly maintained (unlike todays high performance
> engines which need "expert" maintenance and cost "megabucks" to service).
>
> e) The whole design and operation is simple and basic. Even
> someone like me can quite easily learn to maintain and operate one of them
> !! (:-)
>
> Today I sorted out a few problems with the governor linkages
> (mostly to do with my own inexperience - like paint on the wrong parts -
> and fitted a new (in this case "weaker") governor spring to allow for
> slower running.
>
> I then ran the engine for about 3 hours with "Barrs Leaks" in a
> vain attempt to sort out the radiator leaks. In this time the engine never
> missed a beat! Wow - diesel is beautiful. I kept "topping up" the radiator
> with hot water while running and also allowed the water level to drop to
> below the leaks a few times hoping to get some of those "cork bits" to
> reach those lower parts.
>
> The "Barrs Leaks" closed some of the radiator leaks but there are
> still 3 or 4 bad ones. I do realise that these "easy fix" things are not
> the answer especially for a system that is "thermo syphon" (no water pump)
> but was prepared to try anything at that time.
>
> "Barrs Leaks" contains chunks of compressed cork in a solution of
> soluble oil and it appears that the idea is that once introduced into the
> radiator these chunks of cork get stuck in the holes and, as the soluble
> oil is dispersed, the cork "bits" absorb water and swell to close the
> holes
> (leaks).
>
> To my inexperienced brain it would appear as though this would
> work quite well (as a temporary fix) in a motor car where there is a water
> pump forcing the water (and the "chunks" of cork) to circulate . A thermo
> syphon system is quite different - no force applied. To my thinking, this
> would result in the chunks of cork (the sealing medium) to just float on
> top of the water in the top radiator reservoir and never reach the leaks
> lower down - (hot water rises - cold water falls et.al.)
>
> I did allow the radiator to "leak" to the stage where the water
> level was below the holes quite a few times (these Lister engines run very
> cold on low revs - so I never allowed the engine to overheat while doing
> this,).
>
> Comments and suggestions from the "Gurus" will be appreciated.
>
> Another question:
> "Indian Head radiator Cement" (Now made by "Loctite").
> Does anyone have any comments as to it's use.
> What I've been able to find out is that this (powder) when added
> to a radiator starts to harden when exposed to air. My questions are:
> 1) How good is it ?
> 2) Can it be used after "Barrs Leaks" ("Barrs Leaks" contains
> soluble oil).
> 3) Will it work on a "thermo syphon system) ?
>
> Anyway, Guys and Gals, I'm digressing (as often).
>
> Tonight I loaded the Lister onto a flat bed pickup and planted it
> in Neville's garden for tomorrows "show".
>
> I'm ecstatic - I made the deadline - the engine is lovely.
> Pic here:
> <http://www.oldengine.org/members/evans/lister51/done1.jpg
> >
>
>
>
>
> Keep the revs up (or down)
> Jerry Evans
> Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa.
> Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order:
> <www.oldengine.org/members/evans/plates/index.htm>
>
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