[SEL] Dealing Etiquette
Mark Shulaw
frappi at wcoil.com
Sun May 24 14:01:12 PDT 2009
Now if ever theres a jerk that deserves to be pistol whipped that's the one.
And if you would have he would have wondered what he did wrong.
Sometimes the people that get their arses beat deserved it and are too
crooked or stupid to know why.
Mark
At 04:15 PM 5/24/2009, you wrote:
>Boy, what a jerk Mark. I had a guy call me once that had a 10 HP Mogul
>and an 8 HP Famous that I had been trying to buy. He asked what I would
>give. I told him and he said OK when do you want to come and get them?
>I said how about Saturday? He said OK. I drove about 2 hours and got
>to his place and he said to come in. We went in the house and he said
>"I have to get the other guy on the line". I asked what he meant and he
>said "the other guy that I'm trying to sell them to". When he dialed
>the number and the other guy answered he said "I've got an offer of X
>for the Mogul and Famous and wanted to see what you would give". I
>spoke up, loud enough that the person on the other end of the line could
>hear me and said "but you've already sold them to me, I made you an
>offer and you accepted it and now I'm here to pick them up". The person
>on the other end of the line recognized my voice and said he wouldn't
>pay as much as my offer. That night after I got home the other buyer
>called me and said the seller had called and said he would call him on
>Saturday morning to get an offer on the Mogul and Famous. He didn't
>know he was being placed in the middle of this scheme by the seller.
>
>Tommy Turner
>Magnolia, KY
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
>[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark
>Shulaw
>Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 3:24 PM
>To: The SEL email discussion list
>Subject: Re: [SEL] Dealing Etiquette
>
>
>How told me about it Friday evening we agreed to price and then
>Saturday morning he backed out. No time to do anything. Mark
>
>
>At 01:48 PM 5/24/2009, you wrote:
> >Mark
> > The other fella may not have known another deal was in the
> >works. I'd place the majority of the blame on the seller. Anytime
> >that I make a deal with someone like your deal with this person, I give
>
> >them a down payment. If its over the phone I drop them a check in the
> >mail the next day for a portion of the purchase price and quote the
> >details on the check (for example, if I buy something for $1000 I might
>
> >send a check for $200 and note on the "for" line "4 HP Stover engine,
> >$800 balance owed". I've only had to call on this one time when I
> >purchased an engine off a gent. I told him when he priced it to me
> >that it would be several months before I could pick it up. He said no
> >problem. I told him I was going to send him $500 down on it and he
> >said not to but I insisted and that when he got the check to please
> >initial the memo line in regards to our deal. When I went to get it I
> >counted out the cash for the balance. He said "you're $500 short". I
> >told him that was the price we agreed to. I pulled out the canceled
> >check and showed him. He apologized that he was wrong and everything
> >was fine.
> >
> >Tommy Turner
> >Magnolia, KY
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mark
> >Shulaw
> >Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 11:56 AM
> >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com
> >Subject: [SEL] Dealing Etiquette
> >
> >
> >Hi All,
> > What ever happened to a little trading or dealing etiquette? When I
> >came into the engine hobby back in the late 70s there was a few
> >unwritten rules that everyone seemed to follow. #1 was, Never interrupt
>
> >a negotiation in progress. #2 If a price is mutually agreed to the deal
>
> >is done, neither backed out both honored the deal. These were amongst
> >the top of the unwritten rules. Heres what set this question in motion.
>
> >Friday I was talking to a
> >
> >fellow that I buy engines from occasionally (Nationally known US engine
>
> >parts dealer fellow who shall remain nameless) and he told me of a
> >engine he got the other day, It was for sale. I asked for a price and
> >he quoted and after a few minutes of discussion of the engines
> >condition I accepted the offer he made without dickering the price. It
> >was a fair price and when a price is fair I do not like to dicker. Well
>
> >I got the rug yanked out from under me. Remember he quoted me the price
>
> >and I accepted that price. Then he called me yesterday to say he got a
> >"Better offer then Mine" from another fellow and he accepted it.
> >Needless to say I was a little browned off to say the least. First I
> >told him was I had not offered the price that was agreed to, He had
> >offered the price I accepted. And that I had thought the deal closed.
> >He didn't even give me the insulting courtesy of a call for a second
> >chance.
> > Now when I offer someone a price and they accept it, that's it the
> >sale is complete pending payment in a reasonable time period as they
> >say. I do not yank the rug out from under them. What ever happened to
> >integrity in engine dealing? Is everyone just throwing their word and
> >honor out the window now? Its been getting worse for a few years now.
> >Its almost like there is no honor in dealing any more. Like a mans word
>
> >means nothing.
> > Also these last few years theres a growing problem of people
> >interrupting a deal in progress to butt in. Used to be the etiquette
> >was if two people were dealing you stayed out of their negotiating till
>
> >the dealing fell thru then you could start to deal, Or walk away if
> >they come to terms. YOU NEVER BUTTED INTO the middle of negotiations in
>
> >progress! The other fellow was there first. Did not matter if you would
>
> >pay a higher price then was being negotiated!
> > What's the matter, Am I wrong now a days. Do I need to throw the
> >old unwritten rules-integrity out the window and go ruthless? Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >For those passed we remember this Memorial Day.
> >
> >Mark Shulaw
> >454 Co. Rd. 33
> >Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA
> >
> >Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby
> >Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
> >Check out the Maytag Collectors Club web site www.Maytagclub.com
> >
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>For those passed we remember this Memorial Day.
>
>Mark Shulaw
>454 Co. Rd. 33
>Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA
>
>Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby
>Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
>Check out the Maytag Collectors Club web site www.Maytagclub.com
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For those passed we remember this Memorial Day.
Mark Shulaw
454 Co. Rd. 33
Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA
Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell.
Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts.
Check out the Maytag Collectors Club web site www.Maytagclub.com
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