From jopeter at omninet.net.au Sun Mar 1 02:55:35 2009 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:55:35 +0900 Subject: [SEL] re Pioneer Gen-E-Motor Message-ID: <89BE6DAD3A58481FB17AC9F5F706108E@acer8ff47bfe9a> THanks Peter ,and Jerry, mine is a 15 v, 20 amp ,300 watt .....model BD-12 BDC I dont think I will ever get a Briggs N but fitting the Mk 10 Villiers will be interesting. From plowe at exemail.com.au Sun Mar 1 03:30:20 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:30:20 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Ebay question for US collectors MEA Magneto Message-ID: Hi all I have a rare MEA four (4) cylinder magneto, the same type use on the Wright Bros first flight engine I want to sell. I want to sell it on US Ebay. Do I just log into Ebay.com to do this or can I tick a box somewhere in Ebay.com.au?? http://www.wrightexperience.com/artifact/V420.htm You can see the mag on the back left side of the engine.. If I sell it here in Oz and overseas buyers do not tick the International box they might not see it. This thing sure throws a very mean spark. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From jerrye at databak.co.za Sun Mar 1 10:43:27 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:43:27 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Pioneer Gen-E-Motor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090301202555.02179008@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 07:20:37 +0900 >From: "peter ogborne" >Subject: Re: [SEL] Pioneer Gen-E-Motor > >Thanks Jerry, a picture of the Briggs engine would be great .It would help >me in my search for one....maybe I'll be lucky . I will press ahead with the >Villiers conversion anyway .It would not be the first US /Pom marriage. Hi Peter, My Briggs NP is stripped and in a box at present (waiting for parts) but there is a pic and information about halfway down this page: (Mine is not a kickstart version as per this pic - rope start or, when coupled to the genny, electric start.) The Anglo-American thing should look good though. The Briggs was pretty common in the US but maybe you will battle in Aus. When I got mine the carb was missing but an American friend found me a complete (albeit very rusty) engine at Portland 2 years ago for US$ 5.00 - he sent me the carb and a few small bits I needed and kept the rest for spares. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jopeter at omninet.net.au Sun Mar 1 14:36:15 2009 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:36:15 +0900 Subject: [SEL] Pioneer Gen-E-Motor References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090301202555.02179008@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Thanks Jerry .....very difficult to find that model Briggs .I was interested to read through the list and see an engine that was derived from the Smiths Motor Wheel . I have a SMW ,not yet restored but as I now belong to a Vintage M/C club I will make an effort to get it going.....should make an interesting entry in the local hill climb! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Evans" To: Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:43 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Pioneer Gen-E-Motor > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 07:20:37 +0900 >>From: "peter ogborne" >>Subject: Re: [SEL] Pioneer Gen-E-Motor >> >>Thanks Jerry, a picture of the Briggs engine would be great .It would help >>me in my search for one....maybe I'll be lucky . I will press ahead with >>the >>Villiers conversion anyway .It would not be the first US /Pom marriage. > > Hi Peter, > My Briggs NP is stripped and in a box at present (waiting for > parts) but there is a pic and information about halfway down this page: > > (Mine is not a kickstart version as per this pic - rope start or, when > coupled to the genny, electric start.) > The Anglo-American thing should look good though. > The Briggs was pretty common in the US but maybe you will battle > in Aus. When I got mine the carb was missing but an American friend found > me a complete (albeit very rusty) engine at Portland 2 years ago for US$ > 5.00 - he sent me the carb and a few small bits I needed and kept the rest > for spares. > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 1 17:20:45 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:20:45 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? Message-ID: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL> Looking for someone that knows how to sanitize some old plastic barrels that once contained acetone. Thanks, Paul From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 1 18:09:16 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:09:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] Off Old Iron Message-ID: <471213.77807.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks, Bob.I could probably spend a couple days watching all his videos. Alan in Michigan --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Bob W7AVK wrote: From: Bob W7AVK Subject: [SEL] Off Old Iron To: "The SEL email discussion list" , stationary-engine at oldengine.org Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 9:02 AM Good Day - Interested in CNC or new things, check this. **Presented by Jay Leno.? ? ** ******_http://widgets.nbc.com/o/47f1317f105123ad/49930a9fc57c735f/47fe70d4555df05a/9b5b999b/-cpid/ba4377d3bfd6c81 _** Regards, Bob R. WA USA **__****__********** _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Jim at hardmanfamily.net Sun Mar 1 18:13:08 2009 From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net (Jim Hardman) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:13:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? In-Reply-To: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL> References: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL> Message-ID: <04E552BBBA0B4243B521B43393AA9107@JamesDesktop> Paul, acetone is highly soluble in water. Hose the drums out and wash with soap & water if necessary. Dry wih air, perhaps using an old vacuum cleaner. Jim in Vermont ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:20 PM Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? > Looking for someone that knows how to sanitize some old plastic barrels > that once contained acetone. > > Thanks, > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 1 18:42:51 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:42:51 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? References: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL> <04E552BBBA0B4243B521B43393AA9107@JamesDesktop> Message-ID: <8292ABB6142B42768E11AFC4D5E08295@PAUL> Jim the man that had these said that he had water in them and he had them for about nine years. Do you think washing them out good with soap and water and then maybe using a 10% bleach solution to wash them and then rinse them thoroughly they would be OK for collecting rain water in for my backyard garden? Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hardman" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? > Paul, acetone is highly soluble in water. Hose the drums out and wash > with > soap & water if necessary. Dry wih air, perhaps using an old vacuum > cleaner. > > Jim in Vermont > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:20 PM > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? > > >> Looking for someone that knows how to sanitize some old plastic barrels >> that once contained acetone. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From peter at loud-n-clear.net Sun Mar 1 23:25:18 2009 From: peter at loud-n-clear.net (Peter Scales) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:25:18 -0000 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? In-Reply-To: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL> References: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL> Message-ID: <03ed01c99b08$0a581c40$8335c53e@doc> If acetone was all they contained, then a wash with water and a blow-dry with air will do it. Acetone is very volatile (and inflammable!) so best to do it out-of-doors and not to use a hair-dryer :-) As far as I know, acetone hasn't got any particularly unpleasant characteristics (it's a major component of nail varnish remover) so leaving a small amount in the barrel should only result in a strong smell. All the best Pete -- Peter Scales > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of > paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > Sent: 02 March 2009 01:21 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? > > Looking for someone that knows how to sanitize some old > plastic barrels that once contained acetone. > > Thanks, > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Mar 2 02:29:33 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:29:33 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Can anyone identify this mower Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090302122632.00bcb6f8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi All, I've put a page here; with a few pics of a small walk behind sickle bar mower. Please have a look and see if you can identify it for me. Thanks in advance Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Mar 2 03:18:41 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:18:41 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Can anyone identify this mower Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090302131019.00c2b520@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Further to my previous post: I did a bit of Googling and think it may have started off life as an older "Jari" from: made in the USA. Does anyone have parts lists or manuals please? Thanks Jerry Hi All, I've put a page here; with a few pics of a small walk behind sickle bar mower. Please have a look and see if you can identify it for me. Thanks in advance Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 2 03:43:41 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:43:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? Message-ID: <487700.7526.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Paul,After nine years can you still smell Acetone????It seems to me that your soap and water then bleach water and a rinse should clean them out very good. Alan in Michigan --- On Sun, 3/1/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 9:42 PM Jim the man that had these said that he had water in them and he had them for about nine years. Do you think washing them out good with soap and water and then maybe using a 10% bleach solution to wash them and then rinse them thoroughly they would be OK for collecting rain water in for my backyard garden? Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hardman" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? > Paul, acetone is highly soluble in water.? Hose the drums out and wash > with > soap & water if necessary.? Dry wih air, perhaps using an old vacuum > cleaner. > > Jim in Vermont > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:20 PM > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? > > >> Looking for someone that knows how to sanitize some old plastic barrels >> that once contained acetone. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul From Jim at hardmanfamily.net Mon Mar 2 05:21:49 2009 From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net (Jim Hardman) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:21:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? In-Reply-To: <03ed01c99b08$0a581c40$8335c53e@doc> References: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL> <03ed01c99b08$0a581c40$8335c53e@doc> Message-ID: <24EDF35806AF44BCAA6A9675528F844C@JamesDesktop> Paul, the real question about any residual solvent is whether or not it was repackaged. Commercial solvents, after use and contamination, are normally shipped to disposal centers where they are incinerated. The costs are high and sometimes, drums "get lost" and are found elsewhere a long time later. If your drums or containers contained straight acetone which was emptied out in the manufacture of nail polish or lacquer thinner, your drums are uncontaminated and a water wash will carry any residual acetone away. If, after a water wash, there is still "stuff" in the drums, you have drums which held recycled solvent and who knows what might be in there. Try the water wash. If the drums come out clean, your job is done and the drums will be fine for collecting rain water. Acetone is so volatile that any trace amounts will evaporate with initail drying. Peter's comments below are correct. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Scales" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 2:25 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? > If acetone was all they contained, then a wash with water and a blow-dry > with air will do it. Acetone is very volatile (and inflammable!) so best > to > do it out-of-doors and not to use a hair-dryer :-) As far as I know, > acetone hasn't got any particularly unpleasant characteristics (it's a > major > component of nail varnish remover) so leaving a small amount in the barrel > should only result in a strong smell. > > All the best > > Pete > -- > Peter Scales > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of >> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >> Sent: 02 March 2009 01:21 >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? >> >> Looking for someone that knows how to sanitize some old >> plastic barrels that once contained acetone. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Mar 2 13:58:24 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:58:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? In-Reply-To: <8292ABB6142B42768E11AFC4D5E08295@PAUL> References: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL> <04E552BBBA0B4243B521B43393AA9107@JamesDesktop> <8292ABB6142B42768E11AFC4D5E08295@PAUL> Message-ID: <7e260c8de68f28d1def2966d8a713868.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Paul, Let me make sure that I understand. You're concerned about the trace residual chemical that may still be on the inside of these barrels after they have been filled with water for nine years? Moreover, you're concerned about what may be still left and manages to leach into the rainwater you'll collect in the barrels. But, not really worried about what gets into THAT water, but really worried about what manages to percolate down to the root zone of plants you have growing in your backyard garden? And REALLY not worried about that either, but about the tiny fraction that makes it up into the plant and gets incorporated into the part that you'll eat? Is that a fair summation? Man, if I were you, I think that you should spend your time worrying about the REALLY high probability events; maybe like having a large meteorite squish you like a bug while you're spreading rainwater on your garden. See ya, Arnie PS - I think the toxicity of the rainwater BEFORE it gets to your rain barrels is a much greater concern. You should probably take some samples to the lab and have it tested for lead and mercury before putting it on your garden. On Sun, March 1, 2009 9:42 pm, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: > Jim the man that had these said that he had water in them and he had them > for about nine years. Do you think washing them out good with soap and water > and then maybe using a 10% bleach solution to wash them and then rinse them > thoroughly they would be OK for collecting rain water in for my backyard > garden? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 2 16:29:48 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:29:48 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? References: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL><04E552BBBA0B4243B521B43393AA9107@JamesDesktop><8292ABB6142B42768E11AFC4D5E08295@PAUL> <7e260c8de68f28d1def2966d8a713868.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Darn it Arnie, now you have given me something else to worry about, I never gave a runaway meteorite a thought. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Fero" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? > Paul, > > Let me make sure that I understand. You're concerned about the trace > residual > chemical that may still be on the inside of these barrels after they have > been > filled with water for nine years? > > Moreover, you're concerned about what may be still left and manages to > leach into > the rainwater you'll collect in the barrels. > > But, not really worried about what gets into THAT water, but really > worried about > what manages to percolate down to the root zone of plants you have growing > in your > backyard garden? > > And REALLY not worried about that either, but about the tiny fraction that > makes it > up into the plant and gets incorporated into the part that you'll eat? > > From falcon at telenet.net Mon Mar 2 17:59:50 2009 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:59:50 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? In-Reply-To: References: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL><04E552BBBA0B4243B521B43393AA9107@JamesDesktop><8292ABB6142B42768E11AFC4D5E08295@PAUL> <7e260c8de68f28d1def2966d8a713868.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <49AC8F16.1040005@telenet.net> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: > Darn it Arnie, now you have given me something else to worry about, I never > gave a runaway meteorite a thought. > > Paul One just missed the Earth by 40K miles http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,503164,00.html Wait! Did you hear that whooshing sound? A small asteroid buzzed by Earth Monday, though only real astronomy geeks in the Pacific would have noticed. The rock, estimated to be no more than 200 feet wide, zoomed past our planet at an altitude of 40,000 miles at 1:44 p.m. universal time ? or 8:44 EST. Dubbed 2009 DD45, it was discovered only on Friday by Australian astronomers. Forty thousand miles may sound like a lot, but it's only about one-seventh of the way to the moon, and less than twice as far out as many telecommunications satellites. Had 2009 DD45 hit the Earth, it would have exploded on or near the surface with the force of a large nuclear blast ? not very reassuring when you consider humanity had only about three days' notice. According to the Australian news Web site Crikey, the asteroid is likely to be drawn in by Earth's gravity, meaning it may return for many more near misses in the future. -- Steve From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 2 18:27:31 2009 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:27:31 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? References: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL><04E552BBBA0B4243B521B43393AA9107@JamesDesktop><8292ABB6142B42768E11AFC4D5E08295@PAUL> <7e260c8de68f28d1def2966d8a713868.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <49AC8F16.1040005@telenet.net> Message-ID: <002301c99ba7$9b671e80$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> One just missed the Earth by 40K miles ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// Andromeda is not going to miss ! and boy , is that gonna leave a mark ! http://www.kahl.net/astro/graphics/hubble_twospirals.jpg From jdohagan at comcast.net Mon Mar 2 19:01:01 2009 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:01:01 -0800 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? In-Reply-To: <002301c99ba7$9b671e80$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> Message-ID: <20090303030100.89F434C8D3F@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Chuck, Is it going to hit before the auction in Hart Tx on the 26-28 of march? Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Balyeat Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 6:28 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? One just missed the Earth by 40K miles ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// Andromeda is not going to miss ! and boy , is that gonna leave a mark ! http://www.kahl.net/astro/graphics/hubble_twospirals.jpg _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Mon Mar 2 20:05:45 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:05:45 -0800 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? In-Reply-To: <002301c99ba7$9b671e80$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> References: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL><04E552BBBA0B4243B521B43393AA9107@JamesDesktop><8292ABB6142B42768E11AFC4D5E08295@PAUL> <7e260c8de68f28d1def2966d8a713868.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <49AC8F16.1040005@telenet.net> <002301c99ba7$9b671e80$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> Message-ID: <6A2469DA-80B8-4859-91B9-6A47C71BC243@rustyiron.com> > > Andromeda is not going to miss ! and boy , is that gonna leave a > mark ! > > http://www.kahl.net/astro/graphics/hubble_twospirals.jpg Hey, Chuck. Give me a call the day before they collide, so I'll know to stay up and get a good look. From rob at rustyiron.com Mon Mar 2 20:08:18 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:08:18 -0800 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? In-Reply-To: <20090303030100.89F434C8D3F@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> References: <20090303030100.89F434C8D3F@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <197B3EBD-D19E-49C5-9801-125C0EA932F6@rustyiron.com> On Mar 2, 2009, at 7:01 PM, Jim O'Hagan wrote: > Chuck, Is it going to hit before the auction in Hart Tx on the 26-28 > of > march? Heya, Jimmy. The astrophysicists can't agree if it will be March 28 or 29. Just be be safe, better wear your hat in case any of the debris rains down on Hart. From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Mar 3 07:41:28 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:41:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? In-Reply-To: <20090303030100.89F434C8D3F@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> References: <20090303030100.89F434C8D3F@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <08bc4911f4828b7c1905de34004bc743.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Now THAT'S a practical question!! 8-))) On Mon, March 2, 2009 10:01 pm, Jim O'Hagan wrote: > Chuck, Is it going to hit before the auction in Hart Tx on the 26-28 of > march? > > ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > Andromeda is not going to miss ! and boy , is that gonna leave a mark ! > http://www.kahl.net/astro/graphics/hubble_twospirals.jpg -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Mar 3 13:49:02 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:49:02 +1100 Subject: [SEL] What engine is it ??? reply from seller Message-ID: I emailed the guy selling this item and he knows nothing about it. It is Ebay items 280317040799 copy and paste this number into Ebay search bar. Here is his reply below. Peter Dear sir , there are no marking on it what I can see . There is a cab which is a motor mower which was with it when I got it. Also a pipe which looks like it belongs to the exhaust side of the motor. It also has a base plate below the top water tank and above the sump. Hope this helps cheers Donald. From jdohagan at comcast.net Tue Mar 3 15:51:46 2009 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:51:46 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Nixon auction in Hart Tx. Message-ID: <20090303235145.DADD9444850@in04.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Hi, Anyone going to the Armstrong auction in hart Tx. on March 26-28 th. If your driving to it and might have some extra space coming back toward the west coast ,I'd like to talk to you about hauling an engine for me MAYBE .Any location between Hart and San Francisco will help..Thanks Jimmy O'Hagan,415 892 0236 Jim O'Hagan From christison at coastalnet.com Tue Mar 3 15:54:55 2009 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:54:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Neat catalogue find. Message-ID: <49ADC34F.5070209@coastalnet.com> While browsing google books for information on a shingle mill, I ran across a very nice catalog which can be downloaded free. Not a lot of engine reference, but it does have several pages of Foos engines. The catalog is from 1911 and is for a company named Cameron and Barkley and described as: CAMERON & BARKLEY COMPANY, MACHINERY AND SUPPLIES FOR SAW MILLS, PHOSPHATE MINES, FERTILIZER FACTORIES, OIL MILLS, RAILROADS, CONTRACTORS, MACHINISTS, PLUMBERS, ETC. Simply go to google books, in search box type in: "Machinery and Supplies for Saw Mills" Look for the Cameron and Barkley listing with the full view. It takes a while if you are on dial-up like myself, but it is well worth the time. Take care. Ken From rotigel at me.com Tue Mar 3 18:50:10 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:50:10 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? In-Reply-To: <08bc4911f4828b7c1905de34004bc743.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <20090303030100.89F434C8D3F@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> <08bc4911f4828b7c1905de34004bc743.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <6129BF9F-8997-433B-9E65-A13525ADFE3A@me.com> I concur Arnie, but why does it take a chemist to answer it? Dave On Mar 3, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Now THAT'S a practical question!! 8-))) > > On Mon, March 2, 2009 10:01 pm, Jim O'Hagan wrote: >> Chuck, Is it going to hit before the auction in Hart Tx on the >> 26-28 of >> march? >> >> ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// >> >> Andromeda is not going to miss ! and boy , is that gonna leave a >> mark ! >> http://www.kahl.net/astro/graphics/hubble_twospirals.jpg > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jlb94 at juno.com Tue Mar 3 20:34:29 2009 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:34:29 -0500 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: <20090303.233523.1456.2.jlb94> Hi List. There is someone out there that has used Audacity to record music. I have downloaded Audacity and have NO IDEA how to use it. Can anyone help me ? Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ (_o_) "There is more to life than increasing its speed." ____________________________________________________________ Click here to save cash and find low rates on auto loans. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLaW1AIJ2xNp3UN5mp8qltaxY2K6qpJfumq4kl3R4OZhodS4hjxVu/ From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Mar 4 03:11:31 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:11:31 +1100 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) References: <20090303.233523.1456.2.jlb94> Message-ID: <52DC97B65D134D1B8C32F618975F649D@peterlowe> Great program, use it all the time, what do you want to know. Regards Peter > Hi List. > > There is someone out there that has used Audacity to record music. > > I have downloaded Audacity and have NO IDEA how to use it. > > Can anyone help me ? > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ > (_o_) "There is more to life than increasing its speed." > ____________________________________________________________ > Click here to save cash and find low rates on auto loans. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLaW1AIJ2xNp3UN5mp8qltaxY2K6qpJfumq4kl3R4OZhodS4hjxVu/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Frank at lbpinc.com Thu Mar 5 14:15:53 2009 From: Frank at lbpinc.com (Frank DeWitt) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:15:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Home made "JD" engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090305221734.06289598D7@gw1.nlenet.net> I ran across this amazing model of a 2 cyl John Deere It is a air engine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5Hcl9L9wlY&eurl=http://www.homemodelenginemachinist.com/index.php?topic=1985.45 Here is the whole story http://www.homemodelenginemachinist.com/index.php?topic=1985.0 Frank +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ HONOR GOD SERVE PEOPLE DEVELOP EXCELLENCE GROW PROFITABLE FOLLOWING BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES Frank DeWitt | mailto:frank at lbpinc.com Mechanical Design | Phone: 585 624 3052 LBP INC. | Fax 585 624 1038 2365 Cox Rd. | N 42.9130 W 77.5164| Bloomfield NY 14469 |Web http://www.lbpinc.com/ From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Thu Mar 5 15:50:29 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:50:29 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Austral Shipping figures Message-ID: <9B67D16B15F84FD7B38BFAEFF8E916E3@PATRICK> As ever, I am plowing through the data I have on the sideshaft Australs and slowly getting it all into the computer for easy retrieval. Now that I have most of the NSW & QLD shipping records into the computer I have the totals for the various sizes shipped to those states. I have put the info on my site at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austreg/australnswqldtotals.html It is interesting to note the number of big engines shipped to NSW. As well as the large number of 3hp engines shipped to Qld. I can feel another article for TOMM coming... Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From lfevans at pacbell.net Thu Mar 5 16:00:58 2009 From: lfevans at pacbell.net (Larry Evans) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:00:58 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Worthington Catalog Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20090305155958.037cb238@pop.att.yahoo.com> Hi...... For anyone interested I've just put a page on my web site with high resolution scans of a 1921 Worthington catalog dealing primarily with their kerosene engines. The pages print out real nice. This catalog is interesting in that there are several nice exploded views and quite a bit of text explaining their design philosophy. Feel free to download anything you are interested in for personal use. You can find it at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/worthcat/ Regards, Larry Evans Larry Evans MailTo:LFEVANS at pacbell.net http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ From jnyost at yahoo.com Thu Mar 5 16:13:07 2009 From: jnyost at yahoo.com (James Yost) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:13:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] Estero Florida Show Message-ID: <497543.87260.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ? Hey SEL ? It's been long time since I have written or even had much time to be on the SEL. ? My wife and I are going to be in Florida while the Florida Flywheelers Antique Engine Show is going on in Estero. ? We will be in Ft. Lauderdale then and I was just wondering how many engines are at this show and if it has swap/flea market etc. ? Any info would be much appreciated. ? Thanks, Jim ? Jim and Janna Yost Utica, Ohio USA jnyost at yahoo.com From edstoller at earthlink.net Thu Mar 5 16:55:58 2009 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 19:55:58 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Home made "JD" engine References: <20090305221734.06289598D7@gw1.nlenet.net> Message-ID: <4002D0EF78694C009DDF44C2D7821DA3@Ed> Thanks Frank, I hope to get back to my little Johnny Popper made from two Briggs mode 6 s. Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank DeWitt" To: Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:15 PM Subject: [SEL] Home made "JD" engine >I ran across this amazing model of a 2 cyl John Deere It is a air engine. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5Hcl9L9wlY&eurl=http://www.homemodelenginemachinist.com/index.php?topic=1985.45 > > Here is the whole story > http://www.homemodelenginemachinist.com/index.php?topic=1985.0 > > Frank > > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > HONOR GOD > SERVE PEOPLE > DEVELOP EXCELLENCE > GROW PROFITABLE > FOLLOWING BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES > > Frank DeWitt | mailto:frank at lbpinc.com > Mechanical Design | Phone: 585 624 3052 > LBP INC. | Fax 585 624 1038 > 2365 Cox Rd. | N 42.9130 W > 77.5164| > Bloomfield NY 14469 |Web http://www.lbpinc.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Mar 5 18:50:46 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:50:46 +1100 Subject: [SEL] gasket thickness advice Message-ID: <6B27D5B45130421598C3168C9E522110@loungeroom> Hi all Can some of you learned members please tell me the correct gasket thickness for the gasket on the removable main bearing side of my R&V vertical. The bearing plate that houses one of the main bearings come off to remove the crankshaft. 1/64", 1/32", 1/16"????? I am getting all my measurents ready to pour my main bearings and then machine them to the correct tollerances. Thanks Peter, Oz From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Mar 5 21:32:24 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:32:24 +1100 Subject: [SEL] bearing clearances Message-ID: <1326C7E75BE348CEAF9467D314DAD5F7@loungeroom> Hi All I know we have spoken about this before, but I did not log the answers. I am making two (2) cylindrical one piece bearings, 4.500" long, crankshaft diameter 1.450", how many thousanths of an inch clearance should I allow for when boring out the bearing to take the crankshaft? I have brand new crank arms and want a nice snug fit with no play, but not too tight so it will seize, the correct clearance in other words. Lubrication on this early model is grease. Also does anyone in Oz know of a source for 9/16" square steel bar. The early R&V's had all square head bolts and will have to make all new ones, NO they are not set screws etc etc etc, we have been there. These bolt are NO longer available, will post that info to my web site tonight. Regards Peter, Oz From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Fri Mar 6 03:05:32 2009 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:05:32 +0900 Subject: [SEL] bearing clearances In-Reply-To: <1326C7E75BE348CEAF9467D314DAD5F7@loungeroom> References: <1326C7E75BE348CEAF9467D314DAD5F7@loungeroom> Message-ID: <49B1037C.1070503@optusnet.com.au> Peter Lowe wrote: > Hi All > > I know we have spoken about this before, but I did not log the answers. > > I am making two (2) cylindrical one piece bearings, 4.500" long, crankshaft diameter 1.450", how many thousanths of an inch clearance should I allow for when boring out the bearing to take the crankshaft? I have brand new crank arms and want a nice snug fit with no play, but not too tight so it will seize, the correct clearance in other words. Lubrication on this early model is grease. > > Also does anyone in Oz know of a source for 9/16" square steel bar. The early R&V's had all square head bolts and will have to make all new ones, NO they are not set screws etc etc etc, we have been there. These bolt are NO longer available, will post that info to my web site tonight. > > Regards > Peter, Oz > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Peter, 9/16" square key steel is fairly readily available, if you can't find anything cheaper, and no, is is not too hard. Jack From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Fri Mar 6 03:25:46 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:25:46 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Austral register totals Message-ID: Now that I have put enough information into the databases I am starting to get info back out easily. Of interest is the total numbers, by horsepower, on the register: Count of HP HP Total 3 141 3.5 20 4 181 4.5 7 5 128 5.5 34 6 210 6.5 27 7 53 7.5 11 8 105 8.5 22 8.8 1 9 5 9.5 2 10 15 10.5 1 11 75 12 3 15 4 16 17 20 18 25 2 26 1 32 1 ? 78 Total 1162 Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From jbcast at charter.net Fri Mar 6 04:02:11 2009 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 4:02:11 -0800 Subject: [SEL] bearing clearances In-Reply-To: <1326C7E75BE348CEAF9467D314DAD5F7@loungeroom> Message-ID: <20090306070211.E00I0.2038448.root@mp17> ---- Peter Lowe wrote: > Hi All > > I know we have spoken about this before, but I did not log the answers. > > I am making two (2) cylindrical one piece bearings, 4.500" long, crankshaft diameter 1.450", how many thousanths of an inch clearance should I allow for when boring out the bearing to take the crankshaft? I have brand new crank arms and want a nice snug fit with no play, but not too tight so it will seize, the correct clearance in other words. Lubrication on this early model is grease. > > Also does anyone in Oz know of a source for 9/16" square steel bar. The early R&V's had all square head bolts and will have to make all new ones, NO they are not set screws etc etc etc, we have been there. These bolt are NO longer available, will post that info to my web site tonight. > > Regards > Peter, Oz > I would go for .002" on the bearings but things may change if alignment is not perfect. Is this a split bearing with a cap and shims or is it installed in one piece? 14MM is pretty close to 9/16", it would work for your bolts. J.B. Castagnos From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Mar 6 04:37:59 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 07:37:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] bearing clearances Message-ID: G'day Peter, >> Also does anyone in Oz know of a source for 9/16" square steel bar. The early >> R&V's had all square head bolts and will have to make all new ones, NO they are >> not set screws etc etc etc, we have been there. These bolt are NO longer >> available, will post that info to my web site tonight. If you're looking for a project, then make your own. But if you just want to get your R&V restored, why not buy plain-finish square head bolts? McMaster-Carr lists 'em in sizes from 1/4"-20 TPI up to 1"-8 TPI and lengths from 3/4" to 12". I use 'em all the time on engine cart projects. They also have matching square nuts. If you need 9/16"-square heads, that would be a 3/8"-16 TPI bolt available in 8 lengths from 1" to 3-1/2". Since Mc-M is a catalog house, I'd guss that there are a bunch of folks who make 'em. Let me know if you'd like for me to order you some and ship 'em to ya. See ya, Arnie PS - They also carry 9/16" plain steel square stock in 24", 36", and 72" lengths if you'd REALLY rather make your own. 8-)) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Fri Mar 6 06:34:08 2009 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:34:08 -0800 Subject: [SEL] bearing clearances References: <1326C7E75BE348CEAF9467D314DAD5F7@loungeroom> Message-ID: Hi Peter, 1 opr 2 thousands ought to work ok. I would make the bolts out of round stock and mill the head square. Finding 9/16 will be tough and when you do it will be expensive. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes Hemet, California U.S.A. jd.kirkes at verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Lowe To: ATIS ; oldengine.org Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:32 PM Subject: bearing clearances Hi All I know we have spoken about this before, but I did not log the answers. I am making two (2) cylindrical one piece bearings, 4.500" long, crankshaft diameter 1.450", how many thousanths of an inch clearance should I allow for when boring out the bearing to take the crankshaft? I have brand new crank arms and want a nice snug fit with no play, but not too tight so it will seize, the correct clearance in other words. Lubrication on this early model is grease. Also does anyone in Oz know of a source for 9/16" square steel bar. The early R&V's had all square head bolts and will have to make all new ones, NO they are not set screws etc etc etc, we have been there. These bolt are NO longer available, will post that info to my web site tonight. Regards Peter, Oz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1986 - Release Date: 03/05/09 19:32:00 From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Mar 6 07:05:51 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:05:51 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back In-Reply-To: <9B67D16B15F84FD7B38BFAEFF8E916E3@PATRICK> References: <9B67D16B15F84FD7B38BFAEFF8E916E3@PATRICK> Message-ID: <20090306150547.5916F3C0794@mail02.wcoil.com> I am starting to feel like the computer Gods are picking on me. I have lost two hard drives and all the data on them in the last two months. Both were mechanical failures of the drive, not any virus as far as what the repairman says. The first drive only lost a weeks worth of data for me. This time I lost 2 months of data. I still have the old drive from my old computer that I supposedly upgraded from so I was able to at least get what I had up till the end of December 2008. But all of my emails and documents since then are locked on the dead drive. One minute it was working fine the next minute the computer would just not recognize the drive and it was making a clicking noise. QUESTION, does anyone have the ability to swap the disks from one drive to the next? I am told that the companies that does this is way expensive. And from looking at the internals of another dead hard drive and seeing how they are asembled its definately a project beyond my knowledge, skills and tools. Mark Mark Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 From George_Best at adp.com Fri Mar 6 07:12:09 2009 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:12:09 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Austral register totals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590A26616A@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Arnie, How about posting the below information from your Czech engine register? ;-) Shouldn't take too much effort as I'm sure you'd be dealing with much smaller numbers :-) Oh... on our trip we're planning on visiting the collector I bought my green Lorenz from. I've never been to his place but was told he has some early Czech engines with vertical governors. See ya ;-) George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 3:26 AM To: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org; The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Austral register totals Now that I have put enough information into the databases I am starting to get info back out easily. Of interest is the total numbers, by horsepower, on the register: Count of HP HP Total 3 141 3.5 20 4 181 4.5 7 5 128 5.5 34 6 210 6.5 27 7 53 7.5 11 8 105 8.5 22 8.8 1 9 5 9.5 2 10 15 10.5 1 11 75 12 3 15 4 16 17 20 18 25 2 26 1 32 1 ? 78 Total 1162 Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From JMGRIVNA at aol.com Fri Mar 6 07:29:12 2009 From: JMGRIVNA at aol.com (JMGRIVNA at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:29:12 EST Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back Message-ID: Mark, search a website called "cnet". If I recall they did an article on just such a procedure a couple of months ago and tested some fairly inexpensive software for the process. I also heard once that putting the drive in your freezer overnight sometimes works but I've never tried it. PS, thanks for the good parts service in the past. Still looking for a Maytag Upright with Magneto manual. Mike ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219957551x1201325337/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hm pgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From don.h at wcoil.com Fri Mar 6 07:37:03 2009 From: don.h at wcoil.com (Don Heringhaus) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:37:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back In-Reply-To: <20090306150547.5916F3C0794@mail02.wcoil.com> References: <9B67D16B15F84FD7B38BFAEFF8E916E3@PATRICK> <20090306150547.5916F3C0794@mail02.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Heck if you can fix a Maytag you ought to be able to fix a hard drive,,Have you taken any apart ?? There just a couple platters in there ( Disks) about like a cd.I would thick the only thing you would have to very careful is with the arm mech that travels back and forth there is not a lot of clearance there.I would try to fix it for you but right now I,m trying to move my shop out of the high water area .Iv taken a lot of drives apart for the nice magnets in them but then I wasn't to careful on how I smashed things ha ha I think if you take one apart you will see there is not much to them ( again just like changing points on a Maytag. do you no of anybody looking for a nice mill/drill its heavy not a Harbor Frt I got it from EDCO in lima a few yrs ago Don in Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Shulaw" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:05 AM Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back >I am starting to feel like the computer Gods are picking on me. I > have lost two hard drives and all the data on them in the last two > months. Both were mechanical failures of the drive, not any virus as > far as what the repairman says. > The first drive only lost a weeks worth of data for me. This time I > lost 2 months of data. I still have the old drive from my old > computer that I supposedly upgraded from so I was able to at least > get what I had up till the end of December 2008. But all of my emails > and documents since then are locked on the dead drive. One minute it > was working fine the next minute the computer would just not > recognize the drive and it was making a clicking noise. > QUESTION, does anyone have the ability to swap the disks from one > drive to the next? I am told that the companies that does this is way > expensive. And from looking at the internals of another dead hard > drive and seeing how they are asembled its definately a project > beyond my knowledge, skills and tools. Mark > > > > > Mark Shulaw > Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From JMGRIVNA at aol.com Fri Mar 6 07:41:56 2009 From: JMGRIVNA at aol.com (JMGRIVNA at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:41:56 EST Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back Message-ID: Mark, try "zdnet" as well for information. Mike ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219957551x1201325337/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hm pgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From jlb94 at juno.com Fri Mar 6 08:38:32 2009 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:38:32 -0500 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: <20090306.113832.1484.0.jlb94> Great program, use it all the time, what do you want to know. = = = = = = = = = = Hi Peter, Thanks for the comeback. I am totally confused. I installed Audacity and all I seem to be able to get is the Audacity window once I open the program. I can't seem to get anything to record. Or - I can't get any sound into the program. On the Mixer Toolbar, there are two sliders. The Left for output and the right for input. Then there is a little window to choose the input source. I have nothing in that little window and don't know how to get anything to that little window. Hence, if I try to record anything, I get dead space recording. then I click play and, again, dead space playback. How can I get something to show in the "Input Device Selection" ? I have sound coming in to the computer via the line-in on the back of the midtower. Any help? Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ (_o_) "There is more to life than increasing its speed." ____________________________________________________________ Purify your water with professional water treatment. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTK8PGDaK9TV98EZBVfO1CmWYZ9BHpWdhcdn9WL6kN0CmgW4w7CCeU/ From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Mar 6 08:54:11 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:54:11 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back In-Reply-To: References: <9B67D16B15F84FD7B38BFAEFF8E916E3@PATRICK> <20090306150547.5916F3C0794@mail02.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <20090306165406.6F5191D0CC6@mail04.wcoil.com> HI Don, Yah I kinda though about doing it myself at first till I got a look inside one last night and realized the need for a clean room. Its not like we see on the tv cop shows with some dude sitting at a bench in a open common work area playing swap a disc. They tell me this has to be done in a clean environment, dust free, one speck of dust and it may not read. And if in removing the disc it rubs the read arms either the arm is ruined or the disc is scratched and ruined. Just thought maybe someone on the list might work along these lines and I could beg a big favor. I will keep your Mill-Drill in mind if anyone asks. Make up a flier I can print out on an 8.5 X 11" page and I will post it at Bluffton Aire the Air Compressor shop in Lima. Mark At 10:37 AM 3/6/2009, you wrote: >Heck if you can fix a Maytag you ought to be able to fix a hard drive,,Have >you taken any apart ?? There just a couple platters in there ( Disks) about >like a cd.I would thick the only thing you would have to very careful is >with the arm mech that travels back and forth there is not a lot of >clearance there.I would try to fix it for you but right now I,m trying to >move my shop out of the high water area .Iv taken a lot of drives apart for >the nice magnets in them but then I wasn't to careful on how I smashed >things ha ha >I think if you take one apart you will see there is not much to them ( again >just like changing points on a Maytag. >do you no of anybody looking for a nice mill/drill its heavy not a Harbor >Frt I got it from EDCO in lima a few yrs ago >Don in Ottawa >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Shulaw" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:05 AM >Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back > > > >I am starting to feel like the computer Gods are picking on me. I > > have lost two hard drives and all the data on them in the last two > > months. Both were mechanical failures of the drive, not any virus as > > far as what the repairman says. > > The first drive only lost a weeks worth of data for me. This time I > > lost 2 months of data. I still have the old drive from my old > > computer that I supposedly upgraded from so I was able to at least > > get what I had up till the end of December 2008. But all of my emails > > and documents since then are locked on the dead drive. One minute it > > was working fine the next minute the computer would just not > > recognize the drive and it was making a clicking noise. > > QUESTION, does anyone have the ability to swap the disks from one > > drive to the next? I am told that the companies that does this is way > > expensive. And from looking at the internals of another dead hard > > drive and seeing how they are asembled its definately a project > > beyond my knowledge, skills and tools. Mark > > > > > > > > > > Mark Shulaw > > Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: >03/06/09 07:20:00 Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com 419.358.5206 Home 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 6 10:03:21 2009 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:03:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] bearing clearances In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <499058.94394.qm@web31505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I agree with Jim. I have a set of el cheapo chinese 5C collets and a couple of blocks that they will fit it, make your bolt from round stock, part it off, put it in the collet block and mill the flats in the mill. If you have a collet closer on your lathe, you could use a square collet and square stock, but lining up the square stock in the 4 jaw is a PITA, especially if you have many to make. Here is a link to what I am talking about, lower right hand side of the page: http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INPDFF?PMPAGE=453&PARTPG=INLMK3&PMITEM=891-6016 I have the set of square and hex collet blocks and they are very handy. What size bolts do you need and how many? I could get them and mail them to you if you would like. Later, Joe Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Jim Kirkes wrote: > From: Jim Kirkes > Subject: Re: [SEL] bearing clearances > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org, "ATIS" > Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 8:34 AM > Hi Peter, > > 1 opr 2 thousands ought to work ok. I would make the bolts > out of round stock and mill the head square. Finding 9/16 > will be tough and when you do > it will be expensive. > > Jim > > Jim and Diane Kirkes > Hemet, California U.S.A. > jd.kirkes at verizon.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Peter Lowe > To: ATIS ; oldengine.org > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:32 PM > Subject: bearing clearances > > > Hi All > > I know we have spoken about this before, but I did not > log the answers. > > I am making two (2) cylindrical one piece bearings, > 4.500" long, crankshaft diameter 1.450", how many > thousanths of an inch clearance should I allow for when > boring out the bearing to take the crankshaft? I have brand > new crank arms and want a nice snug fit with no play, but > not too tight so it will seize, the correct clearance in > other words. Lubrication on this early model is grease. > > Also does anyone in Oz know of a source for 9/16" > square steel bar. The early R&V's had all square > head bolts and will have to make all new ones, NO they are > not set screws etc etc etc, we have been there. These bolt > are NO longer available, will post that info to my web site > tonight. > > Regards > Peter, Oz > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1986 - > Release Date: 03/05/09 19:32:00 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Mar 6 10:50:09 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:50:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Lorenz & Benz Register Totals Message-ID: <78e5d675ab7372b9b3a90982a9158cae.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hi George, I'll bet you thought you weren't gonna get a response. 8-)) You are correct, the total numbers (98) of the HIGH QUALITY Lorenz and Benz engines are far smaller than those COMMON Australs; only about one tenth as many known. 8-)) Plus for the Czech engines we totally lack any sort of factory data. Lorenz Engines - 58 total 3-4 hp - 32 4-5 hp - 8 4-6 hp - 2 3 hp - 4 3-3.5 hp - 1 4 hp - 1 Unknown - 9 Benz Engines - 40 total 3-4 hp - 12 3-5 hp - 1 4-5 hp - 13 4-6 hp - 2 5-6 hp - 4 5-7 hp - 1 8-10 hp - 1 3 hp - 1 4 hp - 1 5 hp - 1 Unknown - 3 So if anyone on the lists has a Lorenz or Benz engine (or knows of one), please send me the details (and photos if possible). Vertical governors 'eh? That'll be a first for the Lorenz & Benz register! I do have two early ones that are ignitor fired and one really old diesel Lorenz. I think those are the most odd in the register to date. See ya, Arnie On Fri, March 6, 2009 10:12 am, Best, George wrote: > > How about posting the below information from your Czech engine register? > Shouldn't take too much effort as I'm sure you'd be dealing with much > smaller numbers :-) > > Oh... on our trip we're planning on visiting the collector I bought my > green Lorenz from. I've never been to his place but was told he has > some early Czech engines with vertical governors. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From stevebarr at ameritech.net Fri Mar 6 10:51:56 2009 From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:51:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <334350.37367.qm@web82007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mark I have used the freezer trick in the past....I have a cable setup that connects via USB that I have used. Sometimes it works, other times it doesn't. It all depends on the type of failure. I had a friend who restored my data files from a hard drive for me a few years ago, but it took a month. Steve --- On Fri, 3/6/09, JMGRIVNA at aol.com wrote: > From: JMGRIVNA at aol.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Im Back > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 9:29 AM > Mark, search a website called "cnet". If I recall they did an article on just such a procedure a couple of months ago and tested some fairly inexpensive software for the process. I also heard once that putting the drive in your freezer overnight sometimes works but I've never tried it. > > > Mike From George_Best at adp.com Fri Mar 6 11:00:20 2009 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:00:20 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Lorenz & Benz Register Totals In-Reply-To: <78e5d675ab7372b9b3a90982a9158cae.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <78e5d675ab7372b9b3a90982a9158cae.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590A26686F@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Arnie, Just curious if you could say how many Lorenz and Benz engines are in the U.S.? I'm guessing the majority in your registery are outside the U.S. George Ps... and yes I was surprised you were able to provide the below information so quickly. Good work! -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:50 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Cc: stationary-engine at oldengine.org Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz & Benz Register Totals Hi George, I'll bet you thought you weren't gonna get a response. 8-)) You are correct, the total numbers (98) of the HIGH QUALITY Lorenz and Benz engines are far smaller than those COMMON Australs; only about one tenth as many known. 8-)) Plus for the Czech engines we totally lack any sort of factory data. Lorenz Engines - 58 total 3-4 hp - 32 4-5 hp - 8 4-6 hp - 2 3 hp - 4 3-3.5 hp - 1 4 hp - 1 Unknown - 9 Benz Engines - 40 total 3-4 hp - 12 3-5 hp - 1 4-5 hp - 13 4-6 hp - 2 5-6 hp - 4 5-7 hp - 1 8-10 hp - 1 3 hp - 1 4 hp - 1 5 hp - 1 Unknown - 3 So if anyone on the lists has a Lorenz or Benz engine (or knows of one), please send me the details (and photos if possible). Vertical governors 'eh? That'll be a first for the Lorenz & Benz register! I do have two early ones that are ignitor fired and one really old diesel Lorenz. I think those are the most odd in the register to date. See ya, Arnie On Fri, March 6, 2009 10:12 am, Best, George wrote: > > How about posting the below information from your Czech engine register? > Shouldn't take too much effort as I'm sure you'd be dealing with much > smaller numbers :-) > > Oh... on our trip we're planning on visiting the collector I bought my > green Lorenz from. I've never been to his place but was told he has > some early Czech engines with vertical governors. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From Ken.Erman at mastercam.com Fri Mar 6 11:06:43 2009 From: Ken.Erman at mastercam.com (Ken Erman) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:06:43 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back Message-ID: Mark, On the bright side you can use the old disk plates to make wonderful sounding wind chimes. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. CNC Software, Inc. www.mastercam.com ********************************************************************** From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Mar 6 11:27:14 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:27:14 +0200 Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back/HDD recovery In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090306201821.027aeff0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 07:00 PM 06/03/2009, you wrote: >Message: 13 >Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:05:51 -0500 >From: Mark Shulaw >Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back > >I am starting to feel like the computer Gods are picking on me. I >have lost two hard drives and all the data on them in the last two >months. Both were mechanical failures of the drive, not any virus as >far as what the repairman says. >The first drive only lost a weeks worth of data for me. This time I >lost 2 months of data. I still have the old drive from my old >computer that I supposedly upgraded from so I was able to at least >get what I had up till the end of December 2008. But all of my emails >and documents since then are locked on the dead drive. One minute it >was working fine the next minute the computer would just not >recognize the drive and it was making a clicking noise. >QUESTION, does anyone have the ability to swap the disks from one >drive to the next? I am told that the companies that does this is way >expensive. And from looking at the internals of another dead hard >drive and seeing how they are asembled its definately a project >beyond my knowledge, skills and tools. Mark Hi Mark, As you probably know, I only get the SEL digest version and it's just came in. I've read the other posts but will just answer all here. It's not a Maytag - do not attempt any internal stuff without the knowledge or correct equipment which includes a Class 100 Clean room. You are correct about the dust - it can scratch the platters. The heads turn at 7200 RPM in most drives today. The head skims over them and all that keeps it off the platters is the thin "film" of air or "air cushion" created between it and the platters by the speed of the spinning platters. The dust problem is that a bit of dust could get caught between the head and platter and scratch the platter destroying your data permanently. When you switch off your computer these heads automatically "park" in a safe area. (Remember how you had to "park" the hard drive on the old PC's and XT's if you planned to move the computer.) Also the density of todays magnetic media is much higher than in the old drives and "re-aligning" the heads is pretty specialised. I've been doing "data recovery" since 1998 and it is getting more difficult all the time. I do not have a clean room but have an arrangement with someone who does and send all my drives with head crashes there. He gets the thing sorted out for me and then I can do the recovery. If the problem is external ie. on the control board I can sometimes fix this provided spares are available but this often means buying a new hard drive that was made in the same batch and at the same factory as the damaged drive (head changes present similar problems). You can imagine how difficult it is to be that accurate - it's not like going to a spares shop for a new set of plugs!! Someone mentioned "freeze it" - been there done that and had some success with it but that was always on the older hard drives - specifically the Fujitsu drives that gave so much trouble a few years back. Nobody knew for definite why it worked but it did sometimes (not every time). there were 2 schools of thought: i) These drives had a faulty chip that was prone to "shorting out internally" (for want of a better description) and much like an overheated Maytag coil - it would work O.K. but only for a short while when cold. If we got the drive running we would recover everything off the disk as quickly as possible because it would fail again. ii) The second "school of thought" was that this freezing would loosen a stuck part somewhere but I never went with this one. Freezing will not work for your drive if it has clicking noises.The clicking noise you hear is the head trying to initialise and the more you allow this to happen the more difficult will it become to eventually recover the data. (Like an engine - a bearing knock is east to fix if done in time but when left until the rod has gone through the side of the block - not so easy.) My clean room guy charges me approx. ZAR 2000.00 to 2500.00 for these repairs (I can sometimes get him to give me a bit of discount as a personal favour but I cannot make any promises). With our exchange rate being as low as it is this may be a proposition for you as I imagine that similar work would cost a lot in the US. You would still need to courier or post the drive to me. (Our exchange rate is particularly low just now - check it out). I would not charge you for the actual Data recovery once the drive is working (apart from a bit of postage and a few DVD's to copy the data to.) Someone also mentioned software you can download - there is a lot and I could even supply some but this is all for drives that are working correctly - not for mechanically damaged drives. It works if your data on the drive (I'll not go into details here) has become corrupted and your "operating system" such as Windows can no longer read the data on the drive BUT the actual drive HAS to be working correctly for it to do this. Contact me "Off List" if you want to take this further. I must just warn you that I'm about to go to bed soon and will be out for most of the morning tomorrow so do not be alarmed if you do not get an immediate reply. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Mar 6 12:33:01 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:33:01 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090306203257.23DAC3C071D@mail02.wcoil.com> Supposedly they help keep the birds out of the cherry tree too. GRINN Mark At 02:06 PM 3/6/2009, you wrote: >Mark, > On the bright side you can use the old disk plates to make wonderful >sounding wind chimes. > > >********************************************************************** >This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they >are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify >the system manager. > >This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by >MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. > >CNC Software, Inc. >www.mastercam.com >********************************************************************** > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: >03/06/09 07:20:00 Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com 419.358.5206 Home 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Mar 6 12:31:52 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:31:52 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back In-Reply-To: <334350.37367.qm@web82007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <334350.37367.qm@web82007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090306203147.A5C833C076F@mail02.wcoil.com> Already been in the freezer :-( Mark At 01:51 PM 3/6/2009, you wrote: >Mark > >I have used the freezer trick in the past....I have a cable setup >that connects via USB that I have used. Sometimes it works, other >times it doesn't. It all depends on the type of failure. I had a >friend who restored my data files from a hard drive for me a few >years ago, but it took a month. > >Steve > >--- On Fri, 3/6/09, JMGRIVNA at aol.com wrote: > > > From: JMGRIVNA at aol.com > > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Im Back > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 9:29 AM > > Mark, search a website called "cnet". If I recall they did an > article on just such a procedure a couple of months ago and tested > some fairly inexpensive software for the process. I also heard > once that putting the drive in your freezer overnight sometimes > works but I've never tried it. > > > > > > Mike > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: >03/06/09 07:20:00 Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com 419.358.5206 Home 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Mar 6 14:35:57 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:35:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Lorenz & Benz Register Totals Message-ID: <99f4316916d80b943e066b3cb09fb5f8.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hi George, 19 Lorenz engines are in the US (two more in Canada) and one in SA. 13 Benz engines are in the US (two more in Canada). All the rest of the Lorenz & Benz engines are in Europe. > Lorenz Engines - 58 total > Benz Engines - 40 total Arnie On Fri, March 6, 2009 2:00 pm, Best, George wrote: > > Just curious if you could say how many Lorenz and Benz engines are in > the U.S.? > > I'm guessing the majority in your registery are outside the U.S. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From jnyost at yahoo.com Fri Mar 6 16:00:45 2009 From: jnyost at yahoo.com (James Yost) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:00:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] Question Message-ID: <991822.73654.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ?I am not receiving any SEL emails. What do I need to do to get these? Jim and Janna Yost Utica, Ohio USA jnyost at yahoo.com From JMGRIVNA at aol.com Fri Mar 6 19:26:02 2009 From: JMGRIVNA at aol.com (JMGRIVNA at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:26:02 EST Subject: [SEL] Question Message-ID: Hi Jim. If you get this one, we're still around. Mike & Cherie Grivna ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219957551x1201325337/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3F sc%3D668072%26hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 7 01:54:08 2009 From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 20:54:08 +1100 Subject: [SEL] PETTER ANGLO QUESTION Message-ID: Hi All, hoping some one out there in engine land can help me,i am working on a 5hp petter anglo horizontal engine,the problems is i cant work out the fuel system[carby] on it,it appears to have been modified as the way i got it it just cant work,what i need is the length of the fuel needle,some close up pictures of the internals would be good also,looking forward to getting it running,cheers Dave _________________________________________________________________ Find out what?s new with your friends Download the new Windows Live Messenger http://download.live.com/ From cgandree at mchsi.com Sat Mar 7 03:50:28 2009 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:50:28 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Lorenz & Benz Register Totals In-Reply-To: <99f4316916d80b943e066b3cb09fb5f8.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <030720091150.21347.49B25F840004EE6400005363223045151403010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Hi Arnie, Unless requested by their owners can you list the Lorenz folks along with contact info? Wouldn't mind comunicating with them to make comparisons, advice,etc. thanks, Curt Andree -------------- Original message from "Arnie Fero" : -------------- > Hi George, > > 19 Lorenz engines are in the US (two more in Canada) and one in SA. > 13 Benz engines are in the US (two more in Canada). > All the rest of the Lorenz & Benz engines are in Europe. > > > Lorenz Engines - 58 total > > Benz Engines - 40 total > > Arnie > > On Fri, March 6, 2009 2:00 pm, Best, George wrote: > > > > Just curious if you could say how many Lorenz and Benz engines are in > > the U.S.? > > > > I'm guessing the majority in your registery are outside the U.S. > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Mar 7 07:41:54 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:41:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Lorenz & Benz Register Totals In-Reply-To: <030720091150.21347.49B25F840004EE6400005363223045151403010CD2079C080C 03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <030720091150.21347.49B25F840004EE6400005363223045151403010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <60a77c05ae85615240a19e52a24d9cee.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Curt, All I gather in the way of "contact info" is the owner's name and city / state / country if that's available. Many of the entries in the register are just photos, S/N, and other technical info gleaned from observing the engine on the rally field. Sorry. Arnie On Sat, March 7, 2009 6:50 am, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > Unless requested by their owners can you list the Lorenz folks along with contact > info? Wouldn't mind comunicating with them to make comparisons, advice,etc. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From russell at ncable.com.au Sat Mar 7 16:08:53 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:08:53 +1100 Subject: [SEL] PETTER ANGLO QUESTION In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090308000823.BB1CD9022E@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> Dave you will need to have a chat with John Palmer from the UK, he will show up on the list soon enough. The fuel stem is apparently always a major problem :-) http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/555136787szkzzX check the above link Niko to see the pic's of mine. It may help you out a little regards Russell At 08:54 PM 7/03/2009, you wrote: >Hi All, hoping some one out there in engine land can help me,i am >working on a 5hp petter anglo horizontal engine,the problems is i >cant work out the fuel system[carby] on it,it appears to have been >modified as the way i got it it just cant work,what i need is the >length of the fuel needle,some close up pictures of the internals >would be good also,looking forward to getting it running,cheers Dave >_________________________________________________________________ >Find out what's new with your friends Download the new Windows Live Messenger >http://download.live.com/ >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 7 18:36:18 2009 From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 13:36:18 +1100 Subject: [SEL] PETTER ANGLO QUESTION In-Reply-To: <20090308000823.BB1CD9022E@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> References: <20090308000823.BB1CD9022E@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: Hi Russell, thanks for the link to your pictures,is that a burgandy colour that remains on the engine as it is hard to find out what the original colour scheme is,cheers Dave > Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:08:53 +1100 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > From: russell at ncable.com.au > Subject: Re: [SEL] PETTER ANGLO QUESTION > > Dave you will need to have a chat with John Palmer from the UK, he > will show up on the list soon enough. The fuel stem is apparently > always a major problem :-) > http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/555136787szkzzX check the > above link Niko to see the pic's of mine. It may help you out a little > > regards Russell > > > > At 08:54 PM 7/03/2009, you wrote: > > >Hi All, hoping some one out there in engine land can help me,i am > >working on a 5hp petter anglo horizontal engine,the problems is i > >cant work out the fuel system[carby] on it,it appears to have been > >modified as the way i got it it just cant work,what i need is the > >length of the fuel needle,some close up pictures of the internals > >would be good also,looking forward to getting it running,cheers Dave > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Find out what's new with your friends Download the new Windows Live Messenger > >http://download.live.com/ > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Find out what?s new with your friends Download the new Windows Live Messenger http://download.live.com/ From endacomm10 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 7 19:49:20 2009 From: endacomm10 at yahoo.com (S. Work) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 19:49:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back Message-ID: <405355.74558.qm@web65403.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Before you go opening up the drive mechanish, Try swapping the Small curcuit board on the underside of the drive with one from another (As Near identical drive) as possible. ? ? Without more information EG: Drive Manufacturer, Model# or atleast Size range, I can't give you more specific instructions. But keep this in mind. 95% of the time a Clicking drive is simple a failure in the drive Electronics, Not the drive mechanics. ? ? Transplanting the "Controler" from a working drive Will usually give you atleast READ Access to the data on the drive (From which you can repair small gaps in files (If Any) Using a sector editor (If a Binary File) or using a Text editor for raw ascii files, Like MS-Excel documents , etc.Feel free to contact me Off-List if you need more specific Info ? ? Sincerely, ???? Steve Work (Endacomm10 at yahoo.com) ??? of Endacomm Computer Services? (EST:1979) 'IN GOD WE TRUST' --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Mark Shulaw wrote: From: Mark Shulaw Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 10:05 AM I am starting to feel like the computer Gods are picking on me. I have lost two hard drives and all the data on them in the last two months. Both were mechanical failures of the drive, not any virus as far as what the repairman says. The first? drive only lost a weeks worth of data for me. This time I lost 2 months of data. I still have the old drive from my old computer that I supposedly upgraded from so I was able to at least get what I had up till the end of December 2008. But all of my emails and documents since then are locked on the dead drive.? One minute it was working fine the next minute the computer would just not recognize the drive and it was making a clicking noise. QUESTION, does anyone have the ability to swap the disks from one drive to the next? I am told that the companies that does this is way expensive. And from looking at the internals of another dead hard drive and seeing how they are asembled its definately a project beyond my knowledge, skills and tools.? ? ? Mark Mark Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Sun Mar 8 03:14:57 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:14:57 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Crankshaft end float Message-ID: <37995A83AE014781893A2A4C5549D52B@peterlowe> Hi all Thanks for the replies on bearing clearance and square head bolts. Another question: How much end float clearance should I allow on the crankshaft between the crank web and main bearing? Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com Sun Mar 8 07:50:47 2009 From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:50:47 +0000 Subject: [SEL] PETTER ANGLO QUESTION In-Reply-To: References: <20090308000823.BB1CD9022E@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: David,can you give me a picture of your fuel inlet and then I should be able to give the info you need. John > From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 13:36:18 +1100 > Subject: Re: [SEL] PETTER ANGLO QUESTION > > > Hi Russell, thanks for the link to your pictures,is that a burgandy colour that remains on the engine as it is hard to find out what the original colour scheme is,cheers Dave > > > Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:08:53 +1100 > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > From: russell at ncable.com.au > > Subject: Re: [SEL] PETTER ANGLO QUESTION > > > > Dave you will need to have a chat with John Palmer from the UK, he > > will show up on the list soon enough. The fuel stem is apparently > > always a major problem :-) > > http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/555136787szkzzX check the > > above link Niko to see the pic's of mine. It may help you out a little > > > > regards Russell > > > > > > > > At 08:54 PM 7/03/2009, you wrote: > > > > >Hi All, hoping some one out there in engine land can help me,i am > > >working on a 5hp petter anglo horizontal engine,the problems is i > > >cant work out the fuel system[carby] on it,it appears to have been > > >modified as the way i got it it just cant work,what i need is the > > >length of the fuel needle,some close up pictures of the internals > > >would be good also,looking forward to getting it running,cheers Dave > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Find out what's new with your friends Download the new Windows Live Messenger > > >http://download.live.com/ > > >_______________________________________________ > > >SEL mailing list > > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find out what?s new with your friends Download the new Windows Live Messenger > http://download.live.com/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ All your Twitter and other social updates in one place http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ From jnyost at yahoo.com Sun Mar 8 12:35:05 2009 From: jnyost at yahoo.com (James Yost) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] test Message-ID: <672199.66830.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jim and Janna Yost Utica, Ohio USA jnyost at yahoo.com From enginman1 at verizon.net Sun Mar 8 20:10:54 2009 From: enginman1 at verizon.net (Jeff Parks) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:10:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] New Gas Engine Website to Checkout Message-ID: > Hello All, > > Thought I would make everyone aware of a new gas engine > website. Please enjoy the virtual tour thru part of the collection > shown and check back as things will be updated. > > www.parksmotors.net > > Thanks, > > Jeff Parks > enginman1 at verizon.net > From George_Best at adp.com Mon Mar 9 08:28:46 2009 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:28:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Lorenz & Benz Register Totals In-Reply-To: <030720091150.21347.49B25F840004EE6400005363223045151403010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <99f4316916d80b943e066b3cb09fb5f8.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <030720091150.21347.49B25F840004EE6400005363223045151403010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590A299519@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Curt, What size and type of Lorenz do you have? Also serial number. I currently have 2 Lorenz engines and had a 3rd one several years ago. I wouldn't consider myself an expert, but have a fair amount of experience with the ones I have. Plus have seen a lot of them in my travels. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of cgandree at mchsi.com Hi Arnie, Unless requested by their owners can you list the Lorenz folks along with contact info? Wouldn't mind comunicating with them to make comparisons, advice,etc. thanks, Curt Andree This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Mar 9 09:49:41 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:49:41 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Home made "JD" engine In-Reply-To: <20090305221734.06289598D7@gw1.nlenet.net> Message-ID: Frank: Sounds just like one of them-there Johnny poppers. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Frank > DeWitt > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 04:16 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Home made "JD" engine > > > I ran across this amazing model of a 2 cyl John > Deere It is a air engine. From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Mar 9 09:52:52 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:52:52 -0500 Subject: [SEL] bearing clearances In-Reply-To: <1326C7E75BE348CEAF9467D314DAD5F7@loungeroom> Message-ID: Peter: I've been successful with brass/bronze bearings by fitting them just a shade on the snug side then, when first running them, monitor for tightness and heat. When they get noticeably warm or begin to bind, stop and let them cool. Lubricate again and repeat the process. When they're broken-in, they will run continuously without undue heating. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Peter Lowe > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 PM > To: ATIS; oldengine.org > Subject: [SEL] bearing clearances > > > Hi All > > I know we have spoken about this before, but I > did not log the answers. > > I am making two (2) cylindrical one piece > bearings, 4.500" long, crankshaft diameter > 1.450", how many thousanths of an inch clearance > should I allow for when boring out the bearing to > take the crankshaft? I have brand new crank arms > and want a nice snug fit with no play, but not > too tight so it will seize, the correct clearance > in other words. Lubrication on this early model is grease. > > Also does anyone in Oz know of a source for 9/16" > square steel bar. The early R&V's had all square > head bolts and will have to make all new ones, NO > they are not set screws etc etc etc, we have been > there. These bolt are NO longer available, will > post that info to my web site tonight. > > Regards > Peter, Oz From james.kangas at timken.com Mon Mar 9 12:00:24 2009 From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:00:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] test References: <672199.66830.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: loud and clear in Nothern New England Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of James Yost Sent: Sun 3/8/2009 3:35 PM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] test Jim and Janna Yost Utica, Ohio USA jnyost at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. 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Subject: Re: [SEL] test To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 3:00 PM loud and clear in Nothern New England Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of James Yost Sent: Sun 3/8/2009 3:35 PM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] test Jim and Janna Yost Utica, Ohio USA jnyost at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From avanti_64 at juno.com Mon Mar 9 17:39:58 2009 From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:39:58 GMT Subject: [SEL] ATTN: British list members Message-ID: <20090309.203958.2108.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> Joe Kelley here. I am trying to find the owner of an Associated 3 1/2HP Throttle Governed engine serial #515421. 3 pictures of it are listed on the Associated Web Site by Keith Smigle. I would like to correspond with the owner. I am currently restoring the same model engine and have questions. Any help would be appreciated. Direct email is wildirishman52 at gmail.com Thanks ____________________________________________________________ Click to compare life insurance rates. Great rates, quick and easy. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsHFB6xRp9BBAlEyhYn08uJUHce3LmbPHYVl2vvMxQ4TvS8JgsmwvO/ From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Mar 10 05:26:55 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:26:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] ATTN: British list members In-Reply-To: <20090309.203958.2108.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> References: <20090309.203958.2108.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Joe, What's the URL of that Associated web site? Arnie On Mon, March 9, 2009 8:39 pm, avanti_64 at juno.com wrote: > Joe Kelley here. I am trying to find the owner of an Associated 3 1/2HP Throttle > Governed engine serial #515421. 3 pictures of it are listed on the Associated Web > Site by Keith Smigle. > I would like to correspond with the owner. I am currently restoring the same model > engine and have questions. Any help would be appreciated. > Direct email is wildirishman52 at gmail.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Mar 10 05:33:33 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:33:33 +1100 Subject: [SEL] ATTN: British list members References: <20090309.203958.2108.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <8B031BA248AC4703881A2A04A3D7443F@peterlowe> Let your fingers do the talking Mr Fero http://www.oldengine.org/members/smigle/associatedpageindex.htm Peter, Oz > Joe, > > What's the URL of that Associated web site? > > Arnie > > On Mon, March 9, 2009 8:39 pm, avanti_64 at juno.com wrote: >> Joe Kelley here. I am trying to find the owner of an Associated 3 1/2HP >> Throttle >> Governed engine serial #515421. 3 pictures of it are listed on the >> Associated Web >> Site by Keith Smigle. >> I would like to correspond with the owner. I am currently restoring the >> same model >> engine and have questions. Any help would be appreciated. >> Direct email is wildirishman52 at gmail.com > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue Mar 10 05:36:06 2009 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:36:06 -0000 Subject: [SEL] ATTN: British list members References: <20090309.203958.2108.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <002301c9a17c$cfdc55b0$3a290556@intrepid> ----- Original Message ----- To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] ATTN: British list members > On Mon, March 9, 2009 8:39 pm, avanti_64 at juno.com wrote: >> Joe Kelley here. I am trying to find the owner of an Associated 3 1/2HP Throttle >> Governed engine serial #515421. 3 pictures of it are listed on the Associated Web >> Site by Keith Smigle. >> I would like to correspond with the owner. I am currently restoring the same model >> engine and have questions. Any help would be appreciated. >> Direct email is wildirishman52 at gmail.com From: "Arnie Fero" > Joe, > What's the URL of that Associated web site? > Arnie Arnie, I have put it on the UK engine list & below is my latest posting on the subject! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I have been digging around and found the origional photo's at http://www.oldengine.org/members/smigle/associatedpage15.htm They are under "3 HP & 3 1/2 HP Iowa Oversize Engines" http://www.oldengine.org/members/smigle/Associated%20pics/serials/515421.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/smigle/Associated%20pics/serials/515421a.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/smigle/Associated%20pics/serials/515421b.jpg In the last photo the engine seems to be for sale at ?600. Possibly at good few years ago for that price? Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Mar 10 06:15:37 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:15:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] ATTN: British list members In-Reply-To: <8B031BA248AC4703881A2A04A3D7443F@peterlowe> References: <20090309.203958.2108.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> <8B031BA248AC4703881A2A04A3D7443F@peterlowe> Message-ID: <91aa9592ee128f367b928544f9cc2978.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> GREAT website. Thanks!! On Tue, March 10, 2009 8:33 am, Peter Lowe wrote: > Let your fingers do the talking Mr Fero > http://www.oldengine.org/members/smigle/associatedpageindex.htm -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From avanti_64 at juno.com Tue Mar 10 16:37:00 2009 From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:37:00 GMT Subject: [SEL] ATTN: British list members Message-ID: <20090310.193700.5301.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Hi Arnie, here is the link to the exact engine www.oldengine.org/members/smigle/Associated pics/serials/515421.jpg Here is the link to the Associated Site www.oldengine.org/members/smigle/associatedpageindex.htm Thanks, Joe ____________________________________________________________ Hit it out of the park with a new bat. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsL78uY9fp9vCN2KDwdsssiDb73jpgSEnoYKJnwDAuqzsWHW2E4ZUE/ From avanti_64 at juno.com Tue Mar 10 16:48:26 2009 From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:48:26 GMT Subject: [SEL] ATTN: British list members Message-ID: <20090310.194826.5301.2@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Arnie, I guess I was a little late on getting the info to ya! Joe ____________________________________________________________ Criminal Lawyers - Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsMx6wp699u8scelTH4QpZ3tBlNcXWY1rJLZADqv1kqTVhMBRhb588/ From kevin.karch at att.net Tue Mar 10 18:46:38 2009 From: kevin.karch at att.net (Kevin Karch) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] So just where in the world IS Glenn Karch? Message-ID: <799760.95869.qm@web83814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi ? ? My name is Kevin Karch; I'm the youngest son of Glenn Karch, of which I'm sure many of you are friends or acquaintances.? I spoke with Keith?Kinney a little while back, and he noted some folks on the list were curious as to where my Dad has been as of late.? That's where I come in.? I debated quite a while on whether to say anything or what to say...I ended up figuring the best thing is just to talk about it, plain and simple. ? The short story:??Dad?is?currently?not checking up on his e-mails as he is dealing with brain cancer.? He wrapped up his last chemo and radiation treatments a few weeks ago, and the side effects of treatment have made using?the?computer?a little too frustrating at this point.?The good news is the last doctor appointment said the treatment has at least slowed if not stopped the progression. ? In the meantime,?until he's back on his feet (keyboard?),?I suggest that you direct any engine-related (Hercules, Economy, Jaeger, Thermoil, etc.)?questions to Keith Kinney at kkinney at HerculesEngines.com.? Other questions can be directed to me at kevin.karch at att.net, although please understand I probably will not be checking my e-mail quite as regularly as Dad (I?m not retired!) .? We appreciate you keeping Dad in your thoughts and prayers. ? Best Regards, Kevin Karch From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 10 19:29:30 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:29:30 -0600 Subject: [SEL] So just where in the world IS Glenn Karch? References: <799760.95869.qm@web83814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9E4E705F98B1414C834FB2FAE1850A67@PAUL> Kevin this is shocking news to hear that your dad is dealing with brain cancer. The last time I saw him I had went to his house to pick up an old garden tractor. He seemed in the best of health. Please tell your Dad that we will all be praying for his speedy recovery and he will be in our constant thoughts. Thanks for letting us know about your dad, he is a very special man to all of us. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Karch" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:46 PM Subject: [SEL] So just where in the world IS Glenn Karch? Hi ? My name is Kevin Karch; I'm the youngest son of Glenn Karch, of which I'm sure many of you are friends or acquaintances. I spoke with Keith Kinney a little while back, and he noted some folks on the list were curious as to where my Dad has been as of late. That's where I come in. I debated quite a while on whether to say anything or what to say...I ended up figuring the best thing is just to talk about it, plain and simple. The short story: Dad is currently not checking up on his e-mails as he is dealing with brain cancer. He wrapped up his last chemo and radiation treatments a few weeks ago, and the side effects of treatment have made using the computer a little too frustrating at this point. The good news is the last doctor appointment said the treatment has at least slowed if not stopped the progression. In the meantime, until he's back on his feet (keyboard?), I suggest that you direct any engine-related (Hercules, Economy, Jaeger, Thermoil, etc.) questions to Keith Kinney at kkinney at HerculesEngines.com. Other questions can be directed to me at kevin.karch at att.net, although please understand I probably will not be checking my e-mail quite as regularly as Dad (I?m not retired!) . We appreciate you keeping Dad in your thoughts and prayers. Best Regards, Kevin Karch _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Mar 11 04:15:19 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:15:19 +1100 Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Glen_Karch_get_well?= Message-ID: <076D968C7A534D81A57E89AF2B3C80C6@peterlowe> Hi guys Would it be prudent to send Glen an international get well card from both engine lists?? Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Wed Mar 11 04:20:30 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:20:30 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Glen Karch get well In-Reply-To: <076D968C7A534D81A57E89AF2B3C80C6@peterlowe> Message-ID: Absolutely! Sign me up. I hope his health keeps improving & he is back on his feet soon. On 11/3/09 10:15 PM, "Peter Lowe" wrote: > Hi guys > > Would it be prudent to send Glen an international get well card from both > engine lists?? > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From avanti_64 at juno.com Wed Mar 11 05:33:45 2009 From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:33:45 GMT Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Re=3A__Spam=3E_Glen_Karch_get_well?= Message-ID: <20090311.083345.2860.1@webmail23.vgs.untd.com> Definitely! Joe ____________________________________________________________ Come clean with a brand new shower. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsE4zZvKbSdnsXdOO2q7qpJvQBsdJ9LL9bVrq8osv42ESlLDBYw5g8/ From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Mar 11 08:31:05 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:31:05 -0500 Subject: [SEL] So just where in the world IS Glenn Karch? In-Reply-To: <799760.95869.qm@web83814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Kevin: Please convey my best wishes to your Dad. I've never met him but he's considered an important part of our hobby. Take care - Elden DuRand edurand at mchsi.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Kevin Karch > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 08:47 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Cc: kurt.karch at yahoo.com > Subject: [SEL] So just where in the world IS Glenn Karch? From jlb94 at juno.com Wed Mar 11 20:21:13 2009 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:21:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: <20090311.224149.1460.1.jlb94> Kevin: Please convey my best wishes to your Dad. Glenn has always played a major part in the Gas Engine hobby. We all wish him a speedy recovery and will keep him in our prayers. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ (_o_) "There is more to life than increasing its speed." ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find the perfect picture with our powerful photo search features. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTEuJDm6ZnFa7aZyCI1nurnv59rhvfcSKdbvadMx0KuqbiCdVc6bEM/ From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Mar 12 03:41:11 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:41:11 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch Message-ID: <625E72B4F48F4B14B8DF9A85E9A740BE@peterlowe> Hi All No one has jumped in, I will buy a large get well card and post it from Australia. I want everyone to send me an email to plowe at exemail.com.au NOT to the LISTS. Click on the blue email address link here in the email if you are not sure what to do. Place "Get Well" into the subject line of your email. I want your full name and state in the email, I will then type up a list and insert it into the card. You have until Monday to get your details to me. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu Mar 12 04:16:52 2009 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:16:52 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys Message-ID: Over the years I have heard many people ask how to remove a Jib Key, I have recently removed the most difficult one I have seen, and of all the methods I have tried including drilling 5 inches to get one out, the method I used was by far the best. I had added HINTS to my web page http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/National%20Key.html Kerry From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Mar 12 04:54:18 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:54:18 EDT Subject: [SEL] So just where in the world IS Glenn Karch? Message-ID: Kevin, We will pray that your father has a speedy recovery. Just a couple of months ago he helped me with an engine I was working on and sent me some copies of engine details to help me out. He is always a great source of information in the old engine hobby and ready to help in any way. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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John > From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:16:52 +1100 > Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys > > Over the years I have heard many people ask how to remove a Jib Key, I have > recently removed the most difficult one I have seen, and of all the methods > I have tried including drilling 5 inches to get one out, the method I used > was by far the best. > I had added HINTS to my web page > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/National%20Key.html > > Kerry > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place ? 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But where is the picture of the WHOLE National? I looked at your web page, and couldn't find it. Is it 1486 (early!) or 14860 (still pretty early)? Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com On Mar 12, 2009, at 4:16 AM, Kerry wrote: > Over the years I have heard many people ask how to remove a Jib Key, > I have > recently removed the most difficult one I have seen, and of all the > methods > I have tried including drilling 5 inches to get one out, the method > I used > was by far the best. > I had added HINTS to my web page > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/National%20Key.html > > Kerry From alanwh at iinet.net.au Thu Mar 12 13:47:49 2009 From: alanwh at iinet.net.au (Alan Wheaton) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:47:49 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5E5EB300CEE94F899B62D1FBD1FDF5FD@shack> Good job Kerry Like the idea of the pipe Worked very well Alan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2009 10:17 PM To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys Over the years I have heard many people ask how to remove a Jib Key, I have recently removed the most difficult one I have seen, and of all the methods I have tried including drilling 5 inches to get one out, the method I used was by far the best. I had added HINTS to my web page http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/National%20Key.html Kerry _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu Mar 12 15:03:56 2009 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:03:56 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys In-Reply-To: <54CFEAAA-1945-43EF-BD26-5479C057D562@rustyiron.com> References: <54CFEAAA-1945-43EF-BD26-5479C057D562@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <0491BF30127D49AF9E01C4DA3BFA2C11@KerryPC> Thanks to Peter I will get reference to GIB key corrected, one of those things I have been calling incorrect for all these years. The National is 14830 and I think somewhere between 1901 - 1905 but properly closer to 1905, the engine was stripped but largely complete and yesterday started the rebuild program she is one heavy beast for its HP. Many strange things with this engine and will have story and photos later Kerry > Nice work, Kerry. But where is the picture of the WHOLE National? I > looked at your web page, and couldn't find it. Is it 1486 (early!) or > 14860 (still pretty early)? > From rotigel at me.com Thu Mar 12 15:56:44 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:56:44 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01166539-2AA7-41BA-8F43-3C2AB1408E07@me.com> THANKS Kerry! Got that one bookmarked! Dave On Mar 12, 2009, at 7:16 AM, Kerry wrote: > Over the years I have heard many people ask how to remove a Jib Key, > I have > recently removed the most difficult one I have seen, and of all the > methods > I have tried including drilling 5 inches to get one out, the method > I used > was by far the best. > I had added HINTS to my web page > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/National%20Key.html > > Kerry > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From steve_royster at hotmail.com Thu Mar 12 16:17:08 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:17:08 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys In-Reply-To: <01166539-2AA7-41BA-8F43-3C2AB1408E07@me.com> References: <01166539-2AA7-41BA-8F43-3C2AB1408E07@me.com> Message-ID: >Darn Kerry, I never had a problem getting them out, We can't keep them In! Little brother and I were out side running the latest acquisition when it quietly stopped running..... didn't take much inspection to realize the flywheel and Gib key had wandered the timing gears apart. Good thing the flywheel didn't wander down the driveway and into the pond. Do you think they make flywheel strength loctite or should I just drill the hub full of set screws??? Maybe Knurl the end of the crank with an 8 lb sledge? Steve, the good CloisteredOyster > > Over the years I have heard many people ask how to remove a Jib Key, > > I have > > recently removed the most difficult one I have seen, and of all the > > methods > > I have tried including drilling 5 inches to get one out, the method > > I used > > was by far the best. > > I had added HINTS to my web page > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/National%20Key.html > > > > Kerry > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 From jdohagan at comcast.net Thu Mar 12 17:21:15 2009 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:21:15 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090313002126.8A1724056BC@in03.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Steve if the hub isn't the split type with a bolt to cinch it up,squeezing the key, didn't the manufactures use a tapered key ,being real careful not to split the hub. Cya, Jimmy O'Hagan Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve Royster Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:17 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys >Darn Kerry, I never had a problem getting them out, We can't keep them In! Little brother and I were out side running the latest acquisition when it quietly stopped running..... didn't take much inspection to realize the flywheel and Gib key had wandered the timing gears apart. Good thing the flywheel didn't wander down the driveway and into the pond. Do you think they make flywheel strength loctite or should I just drill the hub full of set screws??? Maybe Knurl the end of the crank with an 8 lb sledge? Steve, the good CloisteredOyster > > Over the years I have heard many people ask how to remove a Jib Key, > > I have > > recently removed the most difficult one I have seen, and of all the > > methods > > I have tried including drilling 5 inches to get one out, the method > > I used > > was by far the best. > > I had added HINTS to my web page > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/National%20Key.html > > > > Kerry > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows LiveT Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdi at rochester.rr.com Fri Mar 13 04:43:56 2009 From: rdi at rochester.rr.com (Rick I.) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:43:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Pioneer Gas Engine Association Crankup photos online References: Message-ID: I've (finally!) got some engine photos up from last May's Pioneer Gas Engine Association Crankup (Marion, NY) at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/inzero/crankup2008/index.html Includes pix of an uncommon LaZier Neverstop which was running that day. -Rick I. (Rick's Taylor Vacuum Engine) From Germoamer at aol.com Fri Mar 13 05:35:37 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:35:37 EDT Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys Message-ID: Steve, I did not think tapered keys had a tendency to loosen unless there was something not quite fitting up correctly, like slot bigger than key or taper not quite correct. I have "blued" keys, loosely driving them in and retracting to see where they rubbed and filing to make a good metal to metal fit along the length of the key. If the shaft to hub bore has too much clearance from some "loosening" wear might also cause this problem. Jimmy mentioned split with straight keys versus solid hubs with tapered keys. Would all the problems over the years with us trying to remove tapered keys been solved by everyone using split hubs? Could a split hub have used with a tapered key? Kerry sure had some good "Yankee" ingenuity in removing his key. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219671244x1201345076/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From gastzt at aol.com Fri Mar 13 07:24:49 2009 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:24:49 EDT Subject: [SEL] Pioneer Gas Engine Association Crankup photos online Message-ID: In a message dated 3/13/2009 6:53:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, rdi at rochester.rr.com writes: http://www.oldengine.org/members/inzero/crankup2008/index.html WOW--such great pics--I love the Hercules pic--I have one exactly like it--gee thanks for a job WELL done Stan Zettner Pleasanton, Texas (Stovers and Hercules) ha **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000005) From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Mar 13 08:02:40 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:02:40 +0200 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Postal charges (USA) Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090313165913.00c52e88@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi Guys, Can anyone give me a link to where I can find USPS postal charges. I want to bring some things in from the USA and want to work out my budgets. Many thanks. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. 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Postal charges (USA) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090313165913.00c52e88@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090313165913.00c52e88@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <6f6025160903130820x7f50fc2l146e9af5b0b66c98@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/13 Jerry Evans : > Hi Guys, > Can anyone give me a link to where I can find USPS postal charges. > > I want to bring some things in from the USA and want to work out > my budgets. > Many thanks. > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans http://www.usps.com Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From obise at moscow.com Fri Mar 13 08:20:01 2009 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:20:01 -0700 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Postal charges (USA) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090313165913.00c52e88@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <200903131520.n2DFKCXF031659@mail-gw.fsr.net> Give this a try, Jerry. http://www.usps.com/ Click on "Calculate Postage." Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:03 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] O.T. Postal charges (USA) Hi Guys, Can anyone give me a link to where I can find USPS postal charges. I want to bring some things in from the USA and want to work out my budgets. Many thanks. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Mar 13 09:04:45 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:04:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Postal charges (USA) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090313165913.00c52e88@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090313165913.00c52e88@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <20090313160443.EFD161475C4@mail01.wcoil.com> Hi Jerry, Heres the location of the shipping calculator I use. http://postcalc.usps.gov/ You can calculate international charges from there. Mark At 11:02 AM 3/13/2009, you wrote: >Hi Guys, > Can anyone give me a link to where I can find USPS postal charges. > > I want to bring some things in from the USA and want to work out >my budgets. >Many thanks. > >Keep the revs up (or down) >Jerry Evans >Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/1999 - Release Date: >03/13/09 05:59:00 Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. Check out the Maytag Collectors Club web site www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Mar 13 09:37:15 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:37:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Postal charges (USA) Message-ID: <20090313163714.5700E76B834E@mail07.wcoil.com> Hi Jerry, Heres the location of the shipping calculator I use. http://postcalc.usps.gov/ You can calculate international charges directly from there. Mark At 11:02 AM 3/13/2009, you wrote: >Hi Guys, > Can anyone give me a link to where I can find USPS postal charges. > > I want to bring some things in from the USA and want to work out >my budgets. >Many thanks. > >Keep the revs up (or down) >Jerry Evans >Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/1999 - Release Date: >03/13/09 05:59:00 Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. Check out the Maytag Collectors Club web site www.Maytagclub.com From steve_royster at hotmail.com Fri Mar 13 10:18:46 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:18:46 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tom, The answer of course was something not fitting correctly! Slot was bigger than the key and will have to be fitted with a larger key which I will pick up at the next show. The hub was solid and not split however. See you at Reidsville show next month. Thanks Steve > From: Germoamer at aol.com > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:35:37 -0400 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys > > Steve, > > I did not think tapered keys had a tendency to loosen unless there was > something not quite fitting up correctly, like slot bigger than key or taper not > quite correct. I have "blued" keys, loosely driving them in and retracting to > see where they rubbed and filing to make a good metal to metal fit along the > length of the key. If the shaft to hub bore has too much clearance from some > "loosening" wear might also cause this problem. > > Jimmy mentioned split with straight keys versus solid hubs with tapered > keys. Would all the problems over the years with us trying to remove tapered > keys been solved by everyone using split hubs? Could a split hub have used with > a tapered key? > > Kerry sure had some good "Yankee" ingenuity in removing his key. > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219671244x1201345076/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID > %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 From Germoamer at aol.com Fri Mar 13 13:57:44 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:57:44 EDT Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys Message-ID: In a message dated 3/13/2009 1:23:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, steve_royster at hotmail.com writes: See you at Reidsville show next month Steve, Yes, Reidsville show not far away. Hopefully I will have an engine that runs all day! HA! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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Regards Paul From plowe at exemail.com.au Sat Mar 14 05:33:22 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:33:22 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Was: Removing Damaged Jib Keys - Now, remember the FAQ References: <49BB53B9.9020903@steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: <4CF36801A9B445C598A16212C3B5A6D7@peterlowe> Maybe be so, and it is a valuable resource, but there is nothing like seeing pictures of how others have struggled with this age old problem and over come it. I good picture is worth a thousand words (old Chinese proverb and modernised by Fred R. Barnard ) Peter, Oz > This seems like a timely time to remind the members of the FAQ for this > mailing list which covers questions like this and plenty more. > > http://www.steamengine.com.au/ic/faq/index.html > > The FAQ was started in 1995 with this lists predecessor but hasn't had a > lot of updates in recent times and we've not covered everything yet - so > if anyone wants to contribute please let me know. > > Regards > Paul From Germoamer at aol.com Sat Mar 14 05:37:58 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 08:37:58 EDT Subject: [SEL] Was: Removing Damaged Jib Keys - Now, remember the FAQ Message-ID: In a message dated 3/14/2009 2:53:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, pjp08 at steamengine.com.au writes: This seems like a timely time to remind the members of the FAQ for this mailing list which covers questions like this and plenty more. Paul, Thanks for reminding us. Lots of good info there! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From gastzt at aol.com Sat Mar 14 07:37:42 2009 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:37:42 EDT Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys Message-ID: Hello Tom--- where is the Reidsville show at--- I mean by that,which state/area??? Gee thanks Stan Z Pleasanton, Tex **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000005) From Germoamer at aol.com Sat Mar 14 08:45:41 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:45:41 EDT Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys Message-ID: Stan, Antique Engine Association show is in Reidsville, North Carolina, north of Greensboro, just off Route 29. It is the earliest show in this area and always nice to see your old engine buddies after the winter. Held on April 24/25. It is a small show, but lots of good stuff to look at. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From gastzt at aol.com Sat Mar 14 11:16:25 2009 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:16:25 EDT Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys Message-ID: Tom-- Oh gee thanks SO much for the info--- was up that way about 3 yrs ago---went to go haul back an old Dodge truck with the fluid drive---! They are as fun as the old engines! I have an old 1-ton Dodge (I had for 50 yrs) that I use for engine hauling-- this one I got is for parts! Well, anyway thanks again for the info--- maybe meet some more of you guys sometime---- Stan Pleasanton, Tx **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000005) From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 12:01:34 2009 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:01:34 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Springs Show Pictures Message-ID: <6f6025160903141201p31097751qed0bddc4ce280356@mail.gmail.com> We have got 140+ pictures up on the websites: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Zolfo09/Zolfo09Menu1.htm http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Zolfo09/Zolfo09Menu1.htm Just working on the Kennedy Space Center pictures now. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Mar 14 12:43:03 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:43:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Springs Show Pictures In-Reply-To: <6f6025160903141201p31097751qed0bddc4ce280356@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160903141201p31097751qed0bddc4ce280356@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Nice sunny pics Peter. Dave & the boys are lookin' good down there. See ya, Arnie On Sat, March 14, 2009 3:01 pm, Listerdiesel wrote: > We have got 140+ pictures up on the websites: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Zolfo09/Zolfo09Menu1.htm -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 14:21:34 2009 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:21:34 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Springs Show Pictures In-Reply-To: References: <6f6025160903141201p31097751qed0bddc4ce280356@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160903141421r38ce5d91q5eaf4421bd7cc8bf@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/14 Arnie Fero : > Nice sunny pics Peter. ?Dave & the boys are lookin' good down there. > > See ya, ?Arnie Yes, we couldn't have asked for better weather, it was 85 F the day we left for home. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rotigel at me.com Sat Mar 14 20:02:38 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:02:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Was: Removing Damaged Jib Keys - Now, remember the FAQ In-Reply-To: <49BB53B9.9020903@steamengine.com.au> References: <49BB53B9.9020903@steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: <2C00010F-8D9B-41A4-B246-C1D1D8F49BB5@me.com> Your site has provided a wealth of good advice over the years Paul! THANKS!!!!! Dave On Mar 14, 2009, at 2:50 AM, Paul Pavlinovich wrote: > This seems like a timely time to remind the members of the FAQ for > this > mailing list which covers questions like this and plenty more. > > http://www.steamengine.com.au/ic/faq/index.html > > The FAQ was started in 1995 with this lists predecessor but hasn't > had a > lot of updates in recent times and we've not covered everything yet > - so > if anyone wants to contribute please let me know. > > Regards > Paul > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Sat Mar 14 21:24:41 2009 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 15:24:41 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Was: Removing Damaged Jib Keys - Now, remember the FAQ In-Reply-To: <4CF36801A9B445C598A16212C3B5A6D7@peterlowe> References: <49BB53B9.9020903@steamengine.com.au> <4CF36801A9B445C598A16212C3B5A6D7@peterlowe> Message-ID: <49BC8309.3070709@steamengine.com.au> I agree completely Peter. Pictures are wonderful. The FAQ layout is a little old school and does show its age :). Regards Paul Peter Lowe wrote: > Maybe be so, and it is a valuable resource, but there is nothing like seeing > pictures of how others have struggled with this age old problem and over > come it. > I good picture is worth a thousand words (old Chinese proverb and modernised > by Fred R. Barnard ) > Peter, Oz > > From rotigel at me.com Sat Mar 14 21:59:30 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 00:59:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Was: Removing Damaged Jib Keys - Now, remember the FAQ In-Reply-To: <49BC8309.3070709@steamengine.com.au> References: <49BB53B9.9020903@steamengine.com.au> <4CF36801A9B445C598A16212C3B5A6D7@peterlowe> <49BC8309.3070709@steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: <04A7C550-D185-4D00-8AE6-987297116CB4@me.com> Both of you must keep in mind tha BtHO said on 8 AUGUST, 2009 that a "proper" word is worth a thousand pictures! Dave On Mar 15, 2009, at 12:24 AM, Paul Pavlinovich wrote: > I agree completely Peter. Pictures are wonderful. The FAQ layout is a > little old school and does show its age :). > > Regards > Paul > > Peter Lowe wrote: >> Maybe be so, and it is a valuable resource, but there is nothing >> like seeing >> pictures of how others have struggled with this age old problem and >> over >> come it. >> I good picture is worth a thousand words (old Chinese proverb and >> modernised >> by Fred R. Barnard ) >> Peter, Oz >> >> From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Sun Mar 15 01:37:33 2009 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:37:33 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Was: Removing Damaged Jib Keys - Now, remember the FAQ In-Reply-To: <04A7C550-D185-4D00-8AE6-987297116CB4@me.com> References: <49BB53B9.9020903@steamengine.com.au> <4CF36801A9B445C598A16212C3B5A6D7@peterlowe> <49BC8309.3070709@steamengine.com.au> <04A7C550-D185-4D00-8AE6-987297116CB4@me.com> Message-ID: <49BCBE4D.1080507@steamengine.com.au> Do you remember everything that was ever said Dave? You certainly seem to :). Hehehe Regards Paul David Rotigel wrote: > Both of you must keep in mind tha BtHO said on 8 AUGUST, 2009 that a > "proper" word is worth a thousand pictures! > Dave > On Mar 15, 2009, at 12:24 AM, Paul Pavlinovich wrote: > > >> I agree completely Peter. Pictures are wonderful. The FAQ layout is a >> little old school and does show its age :). >> >> Regards >> Paul >> >> Peter Lowe wrote: >> >>> Maybe be so, and it is a valuable resource, but there is nothing >>> like seeing >>> pictures of how others have struggled with this age old problem and >>> over >>> come it. >>> I good picture is worth a thousand words (old Chinese proverb and >>> modernised >>> by Fred R. Barnard ) >>> Peter, Oz >>> >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 06:54:00 > > From plowe at exemail.com.au Sun Mar 15 02:46:08 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:46:08 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Was: Removing Damaged Jib Keys - Now, remember the FAQ References: <49BB53B9.9020903@steamengine.com.au><4CF36801A9B445C598A16212C3B5A6D7@peterlowe> <49BC8309.3070709@steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: <5EBBD50B102A43F2B4407135133839D8@peterlowe> Not to take away from your efforts Paul, it is still a valuable source for newbies and old hands alike. Peter, Oz >I agree completely Peter. Pictures are wonderful. The FAQ layout is a > little old school and does show its age :). > > Regards > Paul > > Peter Lowe wrote: >> Maybe be so, and it is a valuable resource, but there is nothing like >> seeing >> pictures of how others have struggled with this age old problem and over >> come it. >> I good picture is worth a thousand words (old Chinese proverb and >> modernised >> by Fred R. Barnard ) >> Peter, Oz >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Germoamer at aol.com Sun Mar 15 06:11:01 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:11:01 EDT Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Springs Show Pictures Message-ID: Peter, Thanks for the great photos. Sorry that Millie and I could not make it to Zoflo this year. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From rotigel at me.com Sun Mar 15 17:44:52 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:44:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Was: Removing Damaged Jib Keys - Now, remember the FAQ In-Reply-To: <49BCBE4D.1080507@steamengine.com.au> References: <49BB53B9.9020903@steamengine.com.au> <4CF36801A9B445C598A16212C3B5A6D7@peterlowe> <49BC8309.3070709@steamengine.com.au> <04A7C550-D185-4D00-8AE6-987297116CB4@me.com> <49BCBE4D.1080507@steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: Only going back to several years before Plato. Dave On Mar 15, 2009, at 4:37 AM, Paul Pavlinovich wrote: > Do you remember everything that was ever said Dave? You certainly seem > to :). > > Hehehe > > Regards > Paul > > David Rotigel wrote: >> Both of you must keep in mind tha BtHO said on 8 AUGUST, 2009 that a >> "proper" word is worth a thousand pictures! >> Dave >> On Mar 15, 2009, at 12:24 AM, Paul Pavlinovich wrote: >> >> >>> I agree completely Peter. Pictures are wonderful. The FAQ layout >>> is a >>> little old school and does show its age :). >>> >>> Regards >>> Paul >>> >>> Peter Lowe wrote: >>> >>>> Maybe be so, and it is a valuable resource, but there is nothing >>>> like seeing >>>> pictures of how others have struggled with this age old problem and >>>> over >>>> come it. >>>> I good picture is worth a thousand words (old Chinese proverb and >>>> modernised >>>> by Fred R. Barnard ) >>>> Peter, Oz >>>> >>>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: >> 03/14/09 06:54:00 >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Mon Mar 16 04:55:17 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:55:17 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Auction in Hart, Texas Message-ID: <1C44FCA5A29941EB92358E608FD694FC@peterlowe> Hi guys Anyone going to this auction in Hart, Texas next week??? MARCH 26 - 28, 2009 9:00 AM EACH DAY It is a 3 day auction so if your into engines you might to need to find when the engines are being auctioned. Couple of R&V's for sale that I would like to see what they go for and contact the new owners and get good clear photos if anyone goes. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From plowe at exemail.com.au Mon Mar 16 05:01:03 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:01:03 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Auction in Hart, Texas Message-ID: <204D7B5ADAA14FEA937C4060A7314188@peterlowe> Sorry, forgot to place the link to the auction page, it is now below. Hi guys Anyone going to this auction in Hart, Texas next week??? MARCH 26 - 28, 2009 9:00 AM EACH DAY It is a 3 day auction so if your into engines you might to need to find when the engines are being auctioned. http://www.nixonauctioneers.com/listings/armstrong_listing.html Couple of R&V's for sale that I would like to see what they go for and contact the new owners and get good clear photos if anyone goes. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 16 17:36:13 2009 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:36:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Hart, TX auction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's 653 miles for me, but only 584 for Chuck. Maybe he can run up there... Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway > Sorry, forgot to place the link to the auction page, it is now below. > > > Hi guys > > Anyone going to this auction in Hart, Texas next week??? MARCH 26 - 28, 2009 9:00 AM EACH DAY > It is a 3 day auction so if your into engines you might to need to find when the engines are being auctioned. > http://www.nixonauctioneers.com/listings/armstrong_listing.html > Couple of R&V's for sale that I would like to see what they go for and contact the new owners and get good clear photos if anyone goes. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > > _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme From plowe at exemail.com.au Mon Mar 16 19:50:28 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:50:28 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Hart, TX auction References: Message-ID: <964B2262B089401F8A206A377B716792@peterlowe> No special trips, only if someone is going. I have the serial number from those two R&V's for sale already. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm It's 653 miles for me, but only 584 for Chuck. Maybe he can run up there... Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway > Sorry, forgot to place the link to the auction page, it is now below. > > > Hi guys > > Anyone going to this auction in Hart, Texas next week??? MARCH 26 - 28, > 2009 9:00 AM EACH DAY > It is a 3 day auction so if your into engines you might to need to find > when the engines are being auctioned. > http://www.nixonauctioneers.com/listings/armstrong_listing.html > Couple of R&V's for sale that I would like to see what they go for and > contact the new owners and get good clear photos if anyone goes. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > > _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Mon Mar 16 20:36:05 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:36:05 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Message-ID: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> Hi All I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow 4pm Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be included in the Card. There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good engine mate up and all join in. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From page at velocitynet.com.au Mon Mar 16 20:47:58 2009 From: page at velocitynet.com.au (page at velocitynet.com.au) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:47:58 +1100 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> Message-ID: <60422.124.187.19.110.1237261678.squirrel@webmail.velocity.net.au> Hi Peter You can add my name to the card. Ron Page ACT > Hi All > > I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow 4pm > Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be > included in the Card. > There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good > engine mate up and all join in. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Mon Mar 16 20:48:55 2009 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:48:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> Message-ID: <00f601c9a6b3$4ce96210$e6bc2630$@net> Hey Peter On the back channel (off list); Lew Best near Waco, TX USA -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:36 PM To: ATIS; Oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Hi All I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow 4pm Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be included in the Card. There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good engine mate up and all join in. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Mon Mar 16 20:54:27 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:54:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> Message-ID: <49D0048F-03C7-4F62-9B07-A1149F9818B3@me.com> Thank You Peter for doing what you do! Dave On Mar 16, 2009, at 11:36 PM, Peter Lowe wrote: > Hi All > > I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it > tomorrow 4pm Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name > and state to be included in the Card. > There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a > good engine mate up and all join in. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Mon Mar 16 20:56:28 2009 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:56:28 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: <00f601c9a6b3$4ce96210$e6bc2630$@net> References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> <00f601c9a6b3$4ce96210$e6bc2630$@net> Message-ID: <00fa01c9a6b4$5b462ea0$11d28be0$@net> Oops! Thought I sent it off list (no big deal to me but thought it might create less clutter on the list) Lew -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Lew Best Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:49 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: Re: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Hey Peter On the back channel (off list); Lew Best near Waco, TX USA -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:36 PM To: ATIS; Oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Hi All I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow 4pm Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be included in the Card. There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good engine mate up and all join in. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Mon Mar 16 21:01:14 2009 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:01:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> Message-ID: <003701c9a6b5$048646d0$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Add Rick Rowlands, Youngstown, OH to the card. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:36 PM Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card > Hi All > > I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow 4pm > Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be > included in the Card. > There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good > engine mate up and all join in. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Mon Mar 16 21:16:35 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:16:35 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> <003701c9a6b5$048646d0$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: Thanks Rck Peter > Add Rick Rowlands, Youngstown, OH to the card. > > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Lowe" > To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:36 PM > Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card > > >> Hi All >> >> I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow >> 4pm >> Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be >> included in the Card. >> There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good >> engine mate up and all join in. >> >> Regards >> Peter Lowe >> R&V Engine Registrar >> Australia >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bdb at mchsi.com Mon Mar 16 21:18:55 2009 From: bdb at mchsi.com (Barry) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:18:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> Message-ID: <4FDA632F7F3245A6A6E414A4C7CF0275@Buffystoy> Hi Peter . Please add Barry Buchanan Ottumwa Ia. to Glenn's card. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:36 PM Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card > Hi All > > I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow 4pm > Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be > included in the Card. > There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good > engine mate up and all join in. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From cooperjb at aapt.net.au Mon Mar 16 21:20:42 2009 From: cooperjb at aapt.net.au (John & Beryl Cooper) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:20:42 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> Message-ID: <008901c9a6b7$bc64abf0$0201010a@JBCooper> Hi Peter, If it's not too late add me to the list. Cheers, John Cooper, Bega, N.S.W. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:36 PM Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card > > Hi All > > I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow 4pm > Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be > included in the Card. > There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good > engine mate up and all join in. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2005 - Release Date: 03/16/09 19:01:00 From solarrog at pacbell.net Mon Mar 16 21:56:39 2009 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:56:39 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> <60422.124.187.19.110.1237261678.squirrel@webmail.velocity.net.au> Message-ID: <6D346D7E7BA34F56B50371E3011C8DB3@D6R3D961> Please add my name Roger DiRuscio Fremont, Ca 94539 510-226-2414 ofc message line website, scrapologist.com Ham radio KG6QKZ (gen) Fremont CERT volunteer "Ardenwood" ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Glenn Karch card > Hi Peter > > You can add my name to the card. > > Ron Page > ACT > >> > > Hi All >> >> I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow >> 4pm >> Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be >> included in the Card. >> There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good >> engine mate up and all join in. >> >> Regards >> Peter Lowe >> R&V Engine Registrar >> Australia >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Mon Mar 16 23:29:09 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:29:09 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> <60422.124.187.19.110.1237261678.squirrel@webmail.velocity.net.au> Message-ID: Thanks Ron Peter > Hi Peter > > You can add my name to the card. > > Ron Page > ACT > >> > > Hi All >> >> I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow >> 4pm >> Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be >> included in the Card. >> There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good >> engine mate up and all join in. >> >> Regards >> Peter Lowe >> R&V Engine Registrar >> Australia >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Mon Mar 16 23:33:31 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:33:31 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Message-ID: <2A2BDD1B46474DB3A80C5DAA89C54073@peterlowe> Hi All PLEASE READ THIS GUYS. Please contact me here, click on my email address right here plowe at exemail.com.au and supply me with your name and state, NOT to the LISTS Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From plowe at exemail.com.au Mon Mar 16 23:46:43 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:46:43 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Logos for LIST Message-ID: <193BE95AFBDC4C3B9E35D0A4EBEAA4AA@peterlowe> Hi all Does oldengine.org (Jim's List) have a logo or only SEL with the blue background and engine driven computer.??? Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From rustyjnk at ncbb.net Tue Mar 17 00:06:17 2009 From: rustyjnk at ncbb.net (norman karde) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:06:17 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> <003701c9a6b5$048646d0$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <49BF4BE9.8050202@ncbb.net> I will piggy back, Please add Norm Karde, Loomis California Peter Lowe wrote: > Thanks Rck > Peter > > > >> Add Rick Rowlands, Youngstown, OH to the card. >> >> Rick >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter Lowe" >> To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" >> >> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:36 PM >> Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card >> >> >> >>> Hi All >>> >>> I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow >>> 4pm >>> Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be >>> included in the Card. >>> There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good >>> engine mate up and all join in. >>> >>> Regards >>> Peter Lowe >>> R&V Engine Registrar >>> Australia >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 03/16/09 07:04:00 > > From FRM8198 at aol.com Tue Mar 17 00:29:16 2009 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:29:16 EDT Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Message-ID: Peter, Please add my name and state to the list. Thanks, Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA 93454 In a message dated 3/16/2009 8:43:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, plowe at exemail.com.au writes: I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow 4pm Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be included in the Card. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219850974x1201371016/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62) From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Mar 17 02:14:32 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:14:32 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card References: Message-ID: Thanks Francis Peter > Peter, > Please add my name and state to the list. > > Thanks, > > > Francis Maciel > Santa Maria, CA 93454 > > > > In a message dated 3/16/2009 8:43:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > plowe at exemail.com.au writes: > > I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow > 4pm > Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be > included in the Card. > > > > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 > easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219850974x1201371016/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID > %3D62%26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62) > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bmatthews at matthewsfarm.com Tue Mar 17 04:16:57 2009 From: bmatthews at matthewsfarm.com (Bob Matthews) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 07:16:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: <4FDA632F7F3245A6A6E414A4C7CF0275@Buffystoy> References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> <4FDA632F7F3245A6A6E414A4C7CF0275@Buffystoy> Message-ID: <49BF86A9.7060301@matthewsfarm.com> Hi Peter . Please add Bob Matthews to Glenn's card. -- << Bob Matthews, NW Ohio >> From wmlyoung at yahoo.com Tue Mar 17 05:55:31 2009 From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 05:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Message-ID: <723912.77879.qm@web110303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Peter-san, Here is mine: ? William L. Young Tako, Chiba Prefecture, Japan ? From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Tue Mar 17 06:18:14 2009 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:18:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Logos for LIST References: <193BE95AFBDC4C3B9E35D0A4EBEAA4AA@peterlowe> Message-ID: <004601c9a702$d67c8df0$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Speaking of the SEL logo, does anyone have a high resolution (300 dpi good enough) digital image of the engine driven computer logo? Thanks Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:46 AM Subject: [SEL] Logos for LIST > Hi all > > Does oldengine.org (Jim's List) have a logo or only SEL with the blue > background and engine driven computer.??? > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Mar 17 06:25:24 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:25:24 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Logos for LIST References: <193BE95AFBDC4C3B9E35D0A4EBEAA4AA@peterlowe> <004601c9a702$d67c8df0$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: I will send it OFF LIST as you can't send pics to SEL Peter > Speaking of the SEL logo, does anyone have a high resolution (300 dpi good > enough) digital image of the engine driven computer logo? > > Thanks > > Rick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Lowe" > To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" > > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:46 AM > Subject: [SEL] Logos for LIST > > >> Hi all >> >> Does oldengine.org (Jim's List) have a logo or only SEL with the blue >> background and engine driven computer.??? >> >> Regards >> Peter Lowe >> R&V Engine Registrar >> Australia >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bill at antique-engines.com Tue Mar 17 06:10:52 2009 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 06:10:52 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Logos for LIST In-Reply-To: <193BE95AFBDC4C3B9E35D0A4EBEAA4AA@peterlowe> References: <193BE95AFBDC4C3B9E35D0A4EBEAA4AA@peterlowe> Message-ID: <28ef060ee2d6d63d3754c8f52dc6df72@dickerson-design.com> I thought that was a mac, not a computer......... Just kidding! Bill On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:46:43 +1100, "Peter Lowe" wrote: > Hi all > > Does oldengine.org (Jim's List) have a logo or only SEL with the blue > background and engine driven computer.??? > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pja at ralph.lafayette.la.us Tue Mar 17 06:45:34 2009 From: pja at ralph.lafayette.la.us (Pete Alleman) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:45:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> Message-ID: <1237297534.10090.13.camel@hebe.cctechnol.com> Hi Peter, Please add: Pete and Ruth Alleman, Lafayete, Louisiana Thanks, Pete. On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 14:36 +1100, Peter Lowe wrote: > Hi All > > I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow 4pm Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be included in the Card. > There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good engine mate up and all join in. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -- Pete Alleman pja at ralph.lafayette.la.us Lafayette, Louisiana USA From WinkAndGinger at aol.com Tue Mar 17 07:18:58 2009 From: WinkAndGinger at aol.com (WinkAndGinger at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:18:58 EDT Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Message-ID: Hi Peter, Wink and Ginger, California Thanks, Wink & Ginger Thornton, Yucca Valley Ca., USA KG6TVW, KG6TVV The older the violin....the sweeter the music! ************** Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) From George_Best at adp.com Tue Mar 17 08:19:01 2009 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:19:01 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: <1237297534.10090.13.camel@hebe.cctechnol.com> References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> <1237297534.10090.13.camel@hebe.cctechnol.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590A42D371@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> I suppose this is a bit late, but I'm wondering why we're not just sending individual cards to Glenn. Seems that receiving 100 cards is better than getting a card with 100 names listed on it. Only cost 42 cents in the U.S. to mail a card to Glenn and the cost of the card is whatever you want to spend. This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From MBellar at aol.com Tue Mar 17 08:34:41 2009 From: MBellar at aol.com (MBellar at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:34:41 EDT Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Message-ID: In a message dated 3/16/2009 11:43:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, plowe at exemail.com.au writes: There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good engine mate up and all join in. Peter; Please add Tom Bellar Cincinnati, Ohio Thank you; Tom **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219850974x1201371016/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62) From steve_royster at hotmail.com Tue Mar 17 08:59:11 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:59:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590A42D371@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> <1237297534.10090.13.camel@hebe.cctechnol.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590A42D371@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: George, I think we should do that as well as the big card. Could someone please post Glenns Address to the list? thanks Steve > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:19:01 -0500 > From: George_Best at adp.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Glenn Karch card > > I suppose this is a bit late, but I'm wondering why we're not just > sending individual cards to Glenn. Seems that receiving 100 cards is > better than getting a card with 100 names listed on it. Only cost 42 > cents in the U.S. to mail a card to Glenn and the cost of the card is > whatever you want to spend. > > > > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 From kkinney at herculesengines.com Tue Mar 17 09:15:05 2009 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:15:05 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> <1237297534.10090.13.camel@hebe.cctechnol.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590A42D371@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <42373055-A103-4365-AA05-6402E711C283@herculesengines.com> I'm sure cards would be appreciated. 20601 Old State Road Haubstadt, IN 47639 Keith On Mar 17, 2009, at 10:59 AM, Steve Royster wrote: > > George, I think we should do that as well as the big card. Could > someone please post Glenns Address to the list? thanks Steve > > > > > > > >> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:19:01 -0500 >> From: George_Best at adp.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Glenn Karch card >> >> I suppose this is a bit late, but I'm wondering why we're not just >> sending individual cards to Glenn. Seems that receiving 100 cards is >> better than getting a card with 100 names listed on it. Only cost 42 >> cents in the U.S. to mail a card to Glenn and the cost of the card is >> whatever you want to spend. >> >> >> >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups > to meet. > http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From jneth3 at mac.com Tue Mar 17 09:29:37 2009 From: jneth3 at mac.com (John Neth) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:29:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: <49BF4BE9.8050202@ncbb.net> References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> <003701c9a6b5$048646d0$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <49BF4BE9.8050202@ncbb.net> Message-ID: Add John Neth , Johnson City Tennessee, USA Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2009, at 3:06 AM, norman karde wrote: > I will piggy back, Please add Norm Karde, Loomis California > > Peter Lowe wrote: >> Thanks Rck >> Peter >> >> >> >>> Add Rick Rowlands, Youngstown, OH to the card. >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peter Lowe" >>> To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" >>> >>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:36 PM >>> Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi All >>>> >>>> I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it >>>> tomorrow >>>> 4pm >>>> Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state >>>> to be >>>> included in the Card. >>>> There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a >>>> good >>>> engine mate up and all join in. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Peter Lowe >>>> R&V Engine Registrar >>>> Australia >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> --- >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 03/16/09 07 >> :04:00 >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Mar 17 11:11:17 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:11:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Logos for LIST In-Reply-To: <004601c9a702$d67c8df0$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> References: <193BE95AFBDC4C3B9E35D0A4EBEAA4AA@peterlowe> <004601c9a702$d67c8df0$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <08596dc610086c6790a335b75c45b7f9.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/SE_Logo/SE_Logo.html On Tue, March 17, 2009 9:18 am, Tod Engine Foundation wrote: > Speaking of the SEL logo, does anyone have a high resolution (300 dpi good > enough) digital image of the engine driven computer logo? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Mar 17 11:19:11 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:19:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request Message-ID: <396118548ad5fdd682a1251ea028bd26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Folks, I need your help. One of my power plant customers in Sweden recently had her daughter get married. Her daughter has had one of her wedding pictures selected for a "best bride picture" contest. I'd really appreciate it if y'all could help out with a little ballot box stuffing. At this point she just needs 25 more votes to take over the lead. She's picture #19 and really is a lovely bride and it is a very nice picture. You can only vote once from a given computer. 8-)) THANKS!! Arnie --------------------------------- Original Message --------------------------------- Best regards, Eva-Lena PS. My daughter is chosen to be in a competition with the best bride picture of the year:-) I would be very happy if you could give some votes from the US. The address is following http://www.brollopsmagasinet.se/?id=10554 and her picture is number 19. The pictures are further down on that page. --------------------------------- Original Message --------------------------------- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From rotigel at me.com Tue Mar 17 13:07:30 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:07:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request In-Reply-To: <396118548ad5fdd682a1251ea028bd26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <396118548ad5fdd682a1251ea028bd26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <22011C4C-C43F-4EB3-9ADB-974F3B57443F@me.com> Chick # 19 is now w/in 8 votes of being the LEADER. Last night I sent a request for votes for # 19 to most of those in my address boob. I urge you all to do the same--Arnie's job depends upon #19 winning this contest! Dave PS, EARLY AND OFTEN is fine, but it must be done from different 'puters! On Mar 17, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I need your help. One of my power plant customers in Sweden > recently had her > daughter get married. Her daughter has had one of her wedding > pictures selected > for a "best bride picture" contest. > > I'd really appreciate it if y'all could help out with a little > ballot box stuffing. > At this point she just needs 25 more votes to take over the lead. > > She's picture #19 and really is a lovely bride and it is a very nice > picture. You > can only vote once from a given computer. 8-)) > > THANKS!! Arnie > > --------------------------------- Original Message > --------------------------------- > > Best regards, Eva-Lena > > PS. My daughter is chosen to be in a competition with the best bride > picture of the > year:-) I would be very happy if you could give some votes from the > US. The address > is following http://www.brollopsmagasinet.se/?id=10554 and her > picture is number 19. > The pictures are further down on that page. > > --------------------------------- Original Message > --------------------------------- > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Mar 17 14:11:40 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:11:40 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe><1237297534.10090.13.camel@hebe.cctechnol.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590A42D371@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: What ever you think is right George, this is just on behlaf of everyone Peter >I suppose this is a bit late, but I'm wondering why we're not just > sending individual cards to Glenn. Seems that receiving 100 cards is > better than getting a card with 100 names listed on it. Only cost 42 > cents in the U.S. to mail a card to Glenn and the cost of the card is > whatever you want to spend. > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments > from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Mar 17 14:22:09 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:22:09 +1100 Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request References: <396118548ad5fdd682a1251ea028bd26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <22011C4C-C43F-4EB3-9ADB-974F3B57443F@me.com> Message-ID: <93248E86DDC64333ACC53261057DBE48@peterlowe> I just voted 6 time myself, if you know how to do it. Peter > Chick # 19 is now w/in 8 votes of being the LEADER. Last night I sent > a request for votes for # 19 to most of those in my address boob. I > urge you all to do the same--Arnie's job depends upon #19 winning this > contest! > Dave > PS, EARLY AND OFTEN is fine, but it must be done from different 'puters! > > On Mar 17, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> I need your help. One of my power plant customers in Sweden >> recently had her >> daughter get married. Her daughter has had one of her wedding >> pictures selected >> for a "best bride picture" contest. >> >> I'd really appreciate it if y'all could help out with a little >> ballot box stuffing. >> At this point she just needs 25 more votes to take over the lead. >> >> She's picture #19 and really is a lovely bride and it is a very nice >> picture. You >> can only vote once from a given computer. 8-)) >> >> THANKS!! Arnie >> >> --------------------------------- Original Message >> --------------------------------- >> >> Best regards, Eva-Lena >> >> PS. My daughter is chosen to be in a competition with the best bride >> picture of the >> year:-) I would be very happy if you could give some votes from the >> US. The address >> is following http://www.brollopsmagasinet.se/?id=10554 and her >> picture is number 19. >> The pictures are further down on that page. >> >> --------------------------------- Original Message >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From frappi at wcoil.com Tue Mar 17 17:08:32 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:08:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request In-Reply-To: <93248E86DDC64333ACC53261057DBE48@peterlowe> References: <396118548ad5fdd682a1251ea028bd26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <22011C4C-C43F-4EB3-9ADB-974F3B57443F@me.com> <93248E86DDC64333ACC53261057DBE48@peterlowe> Message-ID: <20090318000830.7459D3A83E4@mail03.wcoil.com> Now shes 13 plus votes. At 05:22 PM 3/17/2009, you wrote: >I just voted 6 time myself, if you know how to do it. >Peter > > > Chick # 19 is now w/in 8 votes of being the LEADER. Last night I sent > > a request for votes for # 19 to most of those in my address boob. I > > urge you all to do the same--Arnie's job depends upon #19 winning this > > contest! > > Dave > > PS, EARLY AND OFTEN is fine, but it must be done from different 'puters! > > > > On Mar 17, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > > > >> Hi Folks, > >> > >> I need your help. One of my power plant customers in Sweden > >> recently had her > >> daughter get married. Her daughter has had one of her wedding > >> pictures selected > >> for a "best bride picture" contest. > >> > >> I'd really appreciate it if y'all could help out with a little > >> ballot box stuffing. > >> At this point she just needs 25 more votes to take over the lead. > >> > >> She's picture #19 and really is a lovely bride and it is a very nice > >> picture. You > >> can only vote once from a given computer. 8-)) > >> > >> THANKS!! Arnie > >> Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. Check out the Maytag Collectors Club web site www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Tue Mar 17 17:13:22 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:13:22 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request In-Reply-To: <93248E86DDC64333ACC53261057DBE48@peterlowe> References: <396118548ad5fdd682a1251ea028bd26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <22011C4C-C43F-4EB3-9ADB-974F3B57443F@me.com> <93248E86DDC64333ACC53261057DBE48@peterlowe> Message-ID: <20090318001319.21BAA3C0392@mail02.wcoil.com> Sombody needs to vote for poor # 23 just so they don't get skunked. They have no votes. I tried to vote again without luck, how did you vote multiple times Peter?? Mark At 05:22 PM 3/17/2009, you wrote: >I just voted 6 time myself, if you know how to do it. >Peter > > > > > > Chick # 19 is now w/in 8 votes of being the LEADER. Last night I sent > > a request for votes for # 19 to most of those in my address boob. I > > urge you all to do the same--Arnie's job depends upon #19 winning this > > contest! > > Dave > > PS, EARLY AND OFTEN is fine, but it must be done from different 'puters! > > > > On Mar 17, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > > > >> Hi Folks, > >> > >> I need your help. One of my power plant customers in Sweden > >> recently had her > >> daughter get married. Her daughter has had one of her wedding > >> pictures selected > >> for a "best bride picture" contest. > >> > >> I'd really appreciate it if y'all could help out with a little > >> ballot box stuffing. > >> At this point she just needs 25 more votes to take over the lead. > >> > >> She's picture #19 and really is a lovely bride and it is a very nice > >> picture. You > >> can only vote once from a given computer. 8-)) > >> > >> THANKS!! Arnie > >> > >> --------------------------------- Original Message > >> --------------------------------- > >> > >> Best regards, Eva-Lena > >> > >> PS. My daughter is chosen to be in a competition with the best bride > >> picture of the > >> year:-) I would be very happy if you could give some votes from the > >> US. The address > >> is following http://www.brollopsmagasinet.se/?id=10554 and her > >> picture is number 19. > >> The pictures are further down on that page. > >> > >> --------------------------------- Original Message > >> --------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> -- > >> This message has been scanned for viruses and > >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > >> believed to be clean. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: >03/17/09 07:23:00 Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. Check out the Maytag Collectors Club web site www.Maytagclub.com From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Mar 17 17:50:17 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:50:17 +1100 Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request References: <396118548ad5fdd682a1251ea028bd26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><22011C4C-C43F-4EB3-9ADB-974F3B57443F@me.com><93248E86DDC64333ACC53261057DBE48@peterlowe> <20090318001319.21BAA3C0392@mail02.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <09FEDAA5060B4B40B03FFDA946FCB4CA@peterlowe> Dump your cookies, dump your temp internet files and history, refresh page and vote. I have given her 8 votes, that is all the time I have now. Peter > Sombody needs to vote for poor # 23 just so they don't get skunked. > They have no votes. I tried to vote again without luck, how did you > vote multiple times Peter?? Mark > > > > At 05:22 PM 3/17/2009, you wrote: >>I just voted 6 time myself, if you know how to do it. >>Peter >> >> >> >> >> > Chick # 19 is now w/in 8 votes of being the LEADER. Last night I sent >> > a request for votes for # 19 to most of those in my address boob. I >> > urge you all to do the same--Arnie's job depends upon #19 winning this >> > contest! >> > Dave >> > PS, EARLY AND OFTEN is fine, but it must be done from different >> > 'puters! >> > >> > On Mar 17, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Folks, >> >> >> >> I need your help. One of my power plant customers in Sweden >> >> recently had her >> >> daughter get married. Her daughter has had one of her wedding >> >> pictures selected >> >> for a "best bride picture" contest. >> >> >> >> I'd really appreciate it if y'all could help out with a little >> >> ballot box stuffing. >> >> At this point she just needs 25 more votes to take over the lead. >> >> >> >> She's picture #19 and really is a lovely bride and it is a very nice >> >> picture. You >> >> can only vote once from a given computer. 8-)) >> >> >> >> THANKS!! Arnie >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- Original Message >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Best regards, Eva-Lena >> >> >> >> PS. My daughter is chosen to be in a competition with the best bride >> >> picture of the >> >> year:-) I would be very happy if you could give some votes from the >> >> US. The address >> >> is following http://www.brollopsmagasinet.se/?id=10554 and her >> >> picture is number 19. >> >> The pictures are further down on that page. >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- Original Message >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> >> believed to be clean. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SEL mailing list >> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SEL mailing list >> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: >>03/17/09 07:23:00 > > Mark Shulaw > 454 Co. Rd. 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > Check out the Maytag Collectors Club web site www.Maytagclub.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 17 18:14:00 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:14:00 -0600 Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request References: <396118548ad5fdd682a1251ea028bd26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <349E18BF7B0F404590DB368718C2053E@PAUL> Done Arnie, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Fero" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request > Hi Folks, > > I need your help. One of my power plant customers in Sweden recently had > her > daughter get married. Her daughter has had one of her wedding pictures > selected > for a "best bride picture" contest. > > I'd really appreciate it if y'all could help out with a little ballot box > stuffing. > At this point she just needs 25 more votes to take over the lead. > > She's picture #19 and really is a lovely bride and it is a very nice > picture. You > can only vote once from a given computer. 8-)) > > THANKS!! Arnie > > --------------------------------- Original > Message --------------------------------- > > Best regards, Eva-Lena > > PS. My daughter is chosen to be in a competition with the best bride > picture of the > year:-) I would be very happy if you could give some votes from the US. > The address > is following http://www.brollopsmagasinet.se/?id=10554 and her picture is > number 19. > The pictures are further down on that page. > > --------------------------------- Original > Message --------------------------------- > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Tue Mar 17 18:23:20 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:23:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request In-Reply-To: <20090318001319.21BAA3C0392@mail02.wcoil.com> References: <396118548ad5fdd682a1251ea028bd26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <22011C4C-C43F-4EB3-9ADB-974F3B57443F@me.com> <93248E86DDC64333ACC53261057DBE48@peterlowe> <20090318001319.21BAA3C0392@mail02.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <85A55C3C-4DCD-4F15-BE4E-200E74D2F4C6@me.com> My understanding is that you need "multiple peters" to do so! Dave On Mar 17, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Mark Shulaw wrote: > ......., how did you > vote multiple times Peter?? Mark > > > > At 05:22 PM 3/17/2009, you wrote: >> I just voted 6 time myself, if you know how to do it. >> Peter >> >> >> >> >>> Chick # 19 is now w/in 8 votes of being the LEADER. Last night I >>> sent >>> a request for votes for # 19 to most of those in my address boob. I >>> urge you all to do the same--Arnie's job depends upon #19 winning >>> this >>> contest! >>> Dave >>> PS, EARLY AND OFTEN is fine, but it must be done from different >>> 'puters! >>> >>> On Mar 17, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Folks, >>>> >>>> I need your help. One of my power plant customers in Sweden >>>> recently had her >>>> daughter get married. Her daughter has had one of her wedding >>>> pictures selected >>>> for a "best bride picture" contest. >>>> >>>> I'd really appreciate it if y'all could help out with a little >>>> ballot box stuffing. >>>> At this point she just needs 25 more votes to take over the lead. >>>> >>>> She's picture #19 and really is a lovely bride and it is a very >>>> nice >>>> picture. You >>>> can only vote once from a given computer. 8-)) >>>> >>>> THANKS!! Arnie >>>> >>>> --------------------------------- Original Message >>>> --------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Best regards, Eva-Lena >>>> >>>> PS. My daughter is chosen to be in a competition with the best >>>> bride >>>> picture of the >>>> year:-) I would be very happy if you could give some votes from the >>>> US. The address >>>> is following http://www.brollopsmagasinet.se/?id=10554 and her >>>> picture is number 19. >>>> The pictures are further down on that page. >>>> >>>> --------------------------------- Original Message >>>> --------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>>> believed to be clean. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: >> 03/17/09 07:23:00 > > Mark Shulaw > 454 Co. Rd. 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > Check out the Maytag Collectors Club web site www.Maytagclub.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mrengine at comcast.net Tue Mar 17 18:33:34 2009 From: mrengine at comcast.net (mrengine at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1390868507.8340451237340014802.JavaMail.root@sz0012a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Please add Frank Brymer Knoxville TN USA Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Neth" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:29:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Add John Neth , Johnson City Tennessee, USA Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2009, at 3:06 AM, norman karde wrote: > I will piggy back, Please add Norm Karde, Loomis California > > Peter Lowe wrote: >> Thanks Rck >> Peter >> >> >> >>> Add Rick Rowlands, Youngstown, OH to the card. >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peter Lowe" >>> To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" >>> >>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:36 PM >>> Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi All >>>> >>>> I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it ? >>>> tomorrow >>>> 4pm >>>> Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state ? >>>> to be >>>> included in the Card. >>>> There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a ? >>>> good >>>> engine mate up and all join in. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Peter Lowe >>>> R&V Engine Registrar >>>> Australia >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> --- >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 03/16/09 07 >> :04:00 >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Mar 17 18:35:04 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:35:04 +1100 Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request References: <396118548ad5fdd682a1251ea028bd26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><22011C4C-C43F-4EB3-9ADB-974F3B57443F@me.com><93248E86DDC64333ACC53261057DBE48@peterlowe><20090318001319.21BAA3C0392@mail02.wcoil.com> <85A55C3C-4DCD-4F15-BE4E-200E74D2F4C6@me.com> Message-ID: <7E103ECAFCDE46A1897CD7B644D9F3C7@peterlowe> I am in a room with 8 computers Peter > My understanding is that you need "multiple peters" to do so! > Dave > > On Mar 17, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Mark Shulaw wrote: > >> ......., how did you >> vote multiple times Peter?? Mark >> >> >> >> At 05:22 PM 3/17/2009, you wrote: >>> I just voted 6 time myself, if you know how to do it. >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Chick # 19 is now w/in 8 votes of being the LEADER. Last night I >>>> sent >>>> a request for votes for # 19 to most of those in my address boob. I >>>> urge you all to do the same--Arnie's job depends upon #19 winning >>>> this >>>> contest! >>>> Dave >>>> PS, EARLY AND OFTEN is fine, but it must be done from different >>>> 'puters! >>>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Folks, >>>>> >>>>> I need your help. One of my power plant customers in Sweden >>>>> recently had her >>>>> daughter get married. Her daughter has had one of her wedding >>>>> pictures selected >>>>> for a "best bride picture" contest. >>>>> >>>>> I'd really appreciate it if y'all could help out with a little >>>>> ballot box stuffing. >>>>> At this point she just needs 25 more votes to take over the lead. >>>>> >>>>> She's picture #19 and really is a lovely bride and it is a very >>>>> nice >>>>> picture. You >>>>> can only vote once from a given computer. 8-)) >>>>> >>>>> THANKS!! Arnie >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------- Original Message >>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, Eva-Lena >>>>> >>>>> PS. My daughter is chosen to be in a competition with the best >>>>> bride >>>>> picture of the >>>>> year:-) I would be very happy if you could give some votes from the >>>>> US. The address >>>>> is following http://www.brollopsmagasinet.se/?id=10554 and her >>>>> picture is number 19. >>>>> The pictures are further down on that page. >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------- Original Message >>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>>>> believed to be clean. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SEL mailing list >>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: >>> 03/17/09 07:23:00 >> >> Mark Shulaw >> 454 Co. Rd. 33 >> Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA >> >> Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. >> Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. >> Check out the Maytag Collectors Club web site www.Maytagclub.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 17 20:04:29 2009 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:04:29 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Hart, TX auction References: Message-ID: <00fb01c9a776$414ee9c0$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> It's 653 miles for me, but only 584 for Chuck. Maybe he can run up there... Bruce Younger //// Jiminy........ just look at the pivots ! http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=plainview%20texas&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Tue Mar 17 21:04:58 2009 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:04:58 EDT Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Message-ID: Add Kevin Kusel New Jersey at BIGFLYWHEEL.COM In a message dated 3/17/2009 9:43:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mrengine at comcast.net writes: Please add Frank Brymer Knoxville TN USA Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Neth" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:29:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Add John Neth , Johnson City Tennessee, USA Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2009, at 3:06 AM, norman karde wrote: > I will piggy back, Please add Norm Karde, Loomis California > > Peter Lowe wrote: >> Thanks Rck >> Peter >> >> >> >>> Add Rick Rowlands, Youngstown, OH to the card. >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peter Lowe" >>> To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" >>> >>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:36 PM >>> Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi All >>>> >>>> I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it >>>> tomorrow >>>> 4pm >>>> Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state >>>> to be >>>> included in the Card. >>>> There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a >>>> good >>>> engine mate up and all join in. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Peter Lowe >>>> R&V Engine Registrar >>>> Australia >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> --- >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 03/16/09 07 >> :04:00 >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) From kkinney at herculesengines.com Tue Mar 17 21:22:39 2009 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:22:39 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch update In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20090311103129.03d77fb8@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <0A0EF5F642EA448EA2B568E1B09B4D43@peterlowe> <925070.4619.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20090311103129.03d77fb8@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello all. I talked to Glenn's wife, Marian, today to see how they were doing. She said it would be OK to update you all on his health. To bring you up to date on what has been going on. The first Glenn knew he had a problem was the first week of October. On a Wednesday or Thursday morning Glenn and Marian were packing the car to travel to the Cotton Ginning Days show in Gastonia, NC. Things were going fine when he approached Marian unable to speak understandably. He knew what he wanted to say but couldn't get the words out. He finally got a pencil and paper and wrote a note for Marian to call an ambulance. We were going to Cotton Ginning Days too and got a call from their son saying that they wouldn't be able to attend the show as his dad was in the hospital with a suspected stroke. Over the next week or two it was determined that it was probably not a stroke as they had found 3 lesions in his brain. His speech returned to normal after a few days and he appeared to be in pretty good health until a month or two ago when he lost his appetite, had little energy, and had trouble concentrating. He went through a long round of chemo and radiation treatments which ended about a month ago which hopefully are the cause of his symptoms. The good news is that the MRI he had a couple of weeks ago showed that the tumors have not grown since the previous MRI which had been done before his round of chemo and radiation treatments. Glenn seems to be doing a little better the last few days being more mobile, watching some TV and having a better appetite. He started a new round of chemo this week. It is a 6 month treatment where he takes a chemo pill everyday for a week then none for 3 weeks then pills for another week, etc. One reason he has not been one the list for a while is that either the tumors or the treatments has affected his eye site and it is difficult for him to read the screen, newspaper, etc. Today he had an eye doctors appointment and they found that his eye sight has changed and they have ordered him some new glasses which hopefully will help this problem. Marian said he is board from being confined to the house but doesn't fill well enough to go out to the shop. Hopefully this will bring everyone up to speed on what's going on with Glenn. I plan to print off some of the messages that have been posted here and share with Glenn when I visit in a few days. Keep the prayers coming . Keith > Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 00:03:11 2009 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:03:11 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch update In-Reply-To: References: <0A0EF5F642EA448EA2B568E1B09B4D43@peterlowe> <925070.4619.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20090311103129.03d77fb8@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160903180003j4608b75fk77ed179a931c1a62@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/18 Keith Kinney : > Hello all. > > I talked to Glenn's wife, Marian, today to see how they were doing. ?She > said it would be OK to update you all on his health. Thanks for the update, keith, much appreciated. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 18 04:40:52 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 05:40:52 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch update References: <0A0EF5F642EA448EA2B568E1B09B4D43@peterlowe><925070.4619.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6.0.1.1.2.20090311103129.03d77fb8@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <690CDE56D010442C91DC8F74985AF5AD@PAUL> Thanks Keith for the update on our friend Glenn. Please tell Glenn that we are al pulling for him and that he and his family will be in our constant prayers asking the Great Physician to heal Glenn and to take care of his family through this ordeal. "Holy Father, we ask that you apply your healing hands to Glenn, that Father you would remove this cancer from his body, restore his health and give us back a Glenn who is well and healthy and who has been a such a friend to all of us. We ask that you provide support and a peace that surpasses all understanding to his wife and family as they stand by him through this. Father, you tell us in your Holy Word that we have not because we ask not, so I, in company with all of his friends and family, now ask that You restore Glenn's health to him and we will give You all the Glory" Amen Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Kinney" To: ; "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:22 PM Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch update > Hello all. > > I talked to Glenn's wife, Marian, today to see how they were doing. > She said it would be OK to update you all on his health. > > To bring you up to date on what has been going on. The first Glenn > knew he had a problem was the first week of October. On a Wednesday > or Thursday morning Glenn and Marian were packing the car to travel to > the Cotton Ginning Days show in Gastonia, NC. Things were going fine > when he approached Marian unable to speak understandably. He knew > what he wanted to say but couldn't get the words out. He finally got > a pencil and paper and wrote a note for Marian to call an ambulance. > We were going to Cotton Ginning Days too and got a call from their son > saying that they wouldn't be able to attend the show as his dad was in > the hospital with a suspected stroke. Over the next week or two it > was determined that it was probably not a stroke as they had found 3 > lesions in his brain. His speech returned to normal after a few days > and he appeared to be in pretty good health until a month or two ago > when he lost his appetite, had little energy, and had trouble > concentrating. He went through a long round of chemo and radiation > treatments which ended about a month ago which hopefully are the cause > of his symptoms. > > The good news is that the MRI he had a couple of weeks ago showed that > the tumors have not grown since the previous MRI which had been done > before his round of chemo and radiation treatments. > > Glenn seems to be doing a little better the last few days being more > mobile, watching some TV and having a better appetite. He started a > new round of chemo this week. It is a 6 month treatment where he > takes a chemo pill everyday for a week then none for 3 weeks then > pills for another week, etc. > > One reason he has not been one the list for a while is that either the > tumors or the treatments has affected his eye site and it is difficult > for him to read the screen, newspaper, etc. Today he had an eye > doctors appointment and they found that his eye sight has changed and > they have ordered him some new glasses which hopefully will help this > problem. > > Marian said he is board from being confined to the house but doesn't > fill well enough to go out to the shop. > > Hopefully this will bring everyone up to speed on what's going on with > Glenn. I plan to print off some of the messages that have been posted > here and share with Glenn when I visit in a few days. Keep the > prayers coming . > > Keith >> > > Keith Kinney > kkinney at herculesengines.com > WWW.HerculesEngines.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Mar 18 05:24:02 2009 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:24:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch update In-Reply-To: <690CDE56D010442C91DC8F74985AF5AD@PAUL> Message-ID: Thanks Keith for the update. We'll add Glenn to our prayer list at church. Glenn contacted me around the first of the year in regards to a part I was going to borrow from him. He told me I should come on down and get it to have it copied. He didn't mention any problems when we talked. Its good to hear that the Drs. are pleased with his progress. We pray it continues. Tommy Turner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Kinney" To: ; "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:22 PM Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch update > Hello all. > > I talked to Glenn's wife, Marian, today to see how they were doing. > She said it would be OK to update you all on his health. > > To bring you up to date on what has been going on. The first Glenn > knew he had a problem was the first week of October. On a Wednesday > or Thursday morning Glenn and Marian were packing the car to travel to > the Cotton Ginning Days show in Gastonia, NC. Things were going fine > when he approached Marian unable to speak understandably. He knew > what he wanted to say but couldn't get the words out. He finally got > a pencil and paper and wrote a note for Marian to call an ambulance. > We were going to Cotton Ginning Days too and got a call from their son > saying that they wouldn't be able to attend the show as his dad was in > the hospital with a suspected stroke. Over the next week or two it > was determined that it was probably not a stroke as they had found 3 > lesions in his brain. His speech returned to normal after a few days > and he appeared to be in pretty good health until a month or two ago > when he lost his appetite, had little energy, and had trouble > concentrating. He went through a long round of chemo and radiation > treatments which ended about a month ago which hopefully are the cause > of his symptoms. > > The good news is that the MRI he had a couple of weeks ago showed that > the tumors have not grown since the previous MRI which had been done > before his round of chemo and radiation treatments. > > Glenn seems to be doing a little better the last few days being more > mobile, watching some TV and having a better appetite. He started a > new round of chemo this week. It is a 6 month treatment where he > takes a chemo pill everyday for a week then none for 3 weeks then > pills for another week, etc. > > One reason he has not been one the list for a while is that either the > tumors or the treatments has affected his eye site and it is difficult > for him to read the screen, newspaper, etc. Today he had an eye > doctors appointment and they found that his eye sight has changed and > they have ordered him some new glasses which hopefully will help this > problem. > > Marian said he is board from being confined to the house but doesn't > fill well enough to go out to the shop. > > Hopefully this will bring everyone up to speed on what's going on with > Glenn. I plan to print off some of the messages that have been posted > here and share with Glenn when I visit in a few days. Keep the > prayers coming . > > Keith >> > > Keith Kinney > kkinney at herculesengines.com > WWW.HerculesEngines.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Mar 18 10:55:32 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:55:32 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 60, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090318195303.029aca90@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 18/03/2009, you wrote: >Message: 10 >Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:50:17 +1100 >From: "Peter Lowe" >Subject: Re: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request > >Dump your cookies, dump your temp internet files and history, refresh page >and vote. I have given her 8 votes, that is all the time I have now. >Peter. Thanks Peter, I've copied this to the Slick and Oldengine lists as well - there is also a lot of activity there and I think that your advice will be put to good use. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 18 17:36:27 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:36:27 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Message-ID: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What would be the dimensions of this box? Thanks, Paul From MaytagTwin at aol.com Wed Mar 18 17:50:45 2009 From: MaytagTwin at aol.com (MaytagTwin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:50:45 EDT Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Message-ID: In a message dated 3/18/2009 7:43:28 PM Central Daylight Time, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net writes: Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What would be the dimensions of this box? Thanks, Paul Hi Paul, If you make each inside dimension 1.5874 feet the volume will be 3.999992 cubic feet. Is that close enough for your work? Ron **************Great Deals on Dell 15" Laptops - Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433363x1201394532/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doub leclick.net%2Fclk%3B212935224%3B34245239%3Bb) From james.kangas at timken.com Wed Mar 18 17:51:13 2009 From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:51:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: A box two feet by two feet by one foot deep would work.Just imagine four blocks that are one foot by one foot by one foot. Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sent: Wed 3/18/2009 8:36 PM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What would be the dimensions of this box? Thanks, Paul _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Wed Mar 18 17:53:35 2009 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:53:35 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: <020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> 1x1x4 or 2x2x1 will get you there ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What > would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Mar 18 17:54:56 2009 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:54:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: 3 feet tall by 6 feet square. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What would be the dimensions of this box? Thanks, Paul _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Mar 18 18:55:36 2009 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:55:36 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Kohler ID Message-ID: <20090318.175537.1516.3.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi all. Can any of you list members tell me the HP of a Kohler single vertical cylinder air cooled engine with these numbers on the ID tag? 2007158 on top and 47238B below. Thanks. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Digital Photography - Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTDvmQDQwA1F5OdahrpuOo1wg9sX3Zyz11pyWXW66iX2BlRU4f53rS/ From al.harris at rustic-engines.com Wed Mar 18 18:07:21 2009 From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:07:21 +1100 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: <49C19AC9.5030805@rustic-engines.com> 2x2x1 Cheers, Al Harris Summer Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 18 18:09:31 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:09:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: <8B232BB6-C8EA-4D61-9909-EA835F036427@me.com> Hi Paul, There is an INFINITE number of solutions to your question! Dave PS, Two by one by two would be one of them. One by two by two would be another. Two by two by one would be, yet, a third. PPS, I don't have the time to figure out all the other possibilities-- perhaps Arnie can do that at work tomorrow! PPPS, Give Arnie a bit of help an tell him ONE of the dimensions. PPPPS, If you provide Arnie with TWO of the dimensions then there is ONLY ONE solution to your inquiry! PPPPPS, Arnie--rotsa ruck! On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:36 PM, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. > What would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Wed Mar 18 18:09:44 2009 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:09:44 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: Message-ID: <021f01c9a82f$63ea5280$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Tommy you just built a two cubic yard box! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >3 feet tall by 6 feet square. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of > paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What > would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Wed Mar 18 18:10:12 2009 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:10:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: Message-ID: <022201c9a82f$748544b0$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Four cubic yards I mean! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >3 feet tall by 6 feet square. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of > paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What > would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 18 18:12:09 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:12:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <346C4088-F252-426B-9E5A-87612BF1917C@me.com> ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dave PS, Tommy to replace RBG when she turns ROOM TEMPERATURE! On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:54 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > 3 feet tall by 6 feet square. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of > paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What > would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 18 18:12:51 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:12:51 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, compost, sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my raised beds in the garden and I needed a way to measure out the material. The idea is you measure out the various materials per the recipe and pour them onto a large 12' X 12' tarp and then get two people, one on each side and you roll the material back and forth over itself until it is well mixed and then put it in the beds. Thanks for the help. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tod Engine Foundation" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > 1x1x4 or > 2x2x1 will get you there > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >> would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 18 18:15:00 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:15:00 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <8B232BB6-C8EA-4D61-9909-EA835F036427@me.com> Message-ID: <5FD70D4D96F94ECAAE33E9EB72D26151@PAUL> Dave I was waiting on your illustrious reply as I just knew it would be forthcoming. I appreciate your help. I will not bother Arnie with this delicate issue now as he is caught up in the ballot stuffing for the Swedish bride and would not have time to apply atomic ciphering to this. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Hi Paul, There is an INFINITE number of solutions to your question! > Dave > PS, Two by one by two would be one of them. One by two by two would be > another. Two by two by one would be, yet, a third. > PPS, I don't have the time to figure out all the other possibilities-- > perhaps Arnie can do that at work tomorrow! > PPPS, Give Arnie a bit of help an tell him ONE of the dimensions. > PPPPS, If you provide Arnie with TWO of the dimensions then there is > ONLY ONE solution to your inquiry! > PPPPPS, Arnie--rotsa ruck! > > On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:36 PM, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. >> What would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, > > From edstoller at earthlink.net Wed Mar 18 18:17:29 2009 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:17:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: <8575EFE43AEB45F28103B903DEC241F9@Ed> Paul, Try 2 ' X 2 'X 1 '. But, if you wanted to make a cylindered " box"" it would be 2 ' 3" in diameter and 1 foot high. Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What > would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 18 18:14:58 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:14:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: <40C2E55B-E282-4D0A-8FEA-A9D0BB61C5B2@me.com> And keep in mind--WHAT YOU CAN IMAGINE YOU CAN BE! Dave On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:51 PM, Kangas, James G. wrote: > A box two feet by two feet by one foot deep would work.Just imagine > four blocks that are one foot by one foot by one foot. > Jim K. > > ________________________________ > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Wed 3/18/2009 8:36 PM > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. > What would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or > entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please > do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to > others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, > and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The > Timken Corporation _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 18 18:16:13 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:16:13 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <022201c9a82f$748544b0$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: I thought there was a hitch in that measurement. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tod Engine Foundation" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Four cubic yards I mean! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judge Tommy Turner" > To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:54 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >>3 feet tall by 6 feet square. >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of >> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >> would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 18 18:19:37 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:19:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <021f01c9a82f$63ea5280$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> References: <021f01c9a82f$63ea5280$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <535BFB3E-91D3-456F-AC8C-EF2870169406@me.com> WOULD THAT BE THE SAME AS 54 CUBIC FEET? Dave On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Tod Engine Foundation wrote: > Tommy you just built a two cubic yard box! > > Rick > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judge Tommy Turner" > To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" engine.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:54 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> 3 feet tall by 6 feet square. >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of >> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >> would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From blcksmth at wcnet.org Wed Mar 18 18:20:01 2009 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:20:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: <482CB107EA3C465D85949296E806AF28@Eagle> How about 2' X 2' X 1'. Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What would be the dimensions of this box? Thanks, Paul _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Mar 18 18:26:28 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:26:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: <002601c9a831$bd426a00$66674b47@mikecomp> No No No, my brother Steve (the custom home builder) said it would be 4x5x6. Plus it will cost $242.00 a square foot to build and it will take him 3 months, plus engineering fees, architectural drawings and a rain clause. It also wouldn't hurt if doughnuts and coffee found their way to the job site daily, along with tacos and burritos for lunch. Best always! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What > would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Wed Mar 18 18:32:59 2009 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:32:59 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL><020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <024b01c9a832$a3450350$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> I would probably use the five gallon bucket as the standard of measurement for your application. I don't know how many cubic feet a bucket is, and I'm not dressed to go out and find one to measure one right now. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, > compost, > sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my raised > beds in the garden and I needed a way to measure out the material. The > idea > is you measure out the various materials per the recipe and pour them onto > a > large 12' X 12' tarp and then get two people, one on each side and you > roll > the material back and forth over itself until it is well mixed and then > put > it in the beds. > > Thanks for the help. > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tod Engine Foundation" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:53 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> 1x1x4 or >> 2x2x1 will get you there >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >>> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >>> would be the dimensions of this box? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 18 18:33:31 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:33:31 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <8575EFE43AEB45F28103B903DEC241F9@Ed> Message-ID: Thanks Ed, I think I have got it now as the boys have been sending me all sorts of options. I just posted a message of what I am trying to do and why I need this box. Man O Man, just a simple O.T has awaken the SEL members, getting a flood of responses which is great. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed stoller" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Paul, > > Try 2 ' X 2 'X 1 '. > > But, if you wanted to make a cylindered " box"" it would be 2 ' 3" in > diameter and 1 foot high. > > Ed Stoller > New Fairfield, CT > http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >> would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 18 18:37:23 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:37:23 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <002601c9a831$bd426a00$66674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <3B37518F2A33473693B2A72A2D2295CC@PAUL> Darn it Mike, just when I though I had this situation under control you come along and drop a bomb on my head. Since I have helped bail out every CEO and EXEC in the country I may have to forget this project as $242.00 is a little stiff for this poor ole Southern Boy. Sure hate to get this message, I thought I was going to be able to build me a little plywood box and get on with the project, I never figured in all of these extra fees and benefits, it is enough to make a good man cry. Sad and Broken Hearted in the South, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > No No No, my brother Steve (the custom home builder) said it would be > 4x5x6. Plus it will cost $242.00 a square foot to build and it will take > him 3 months, plus engineering fees, architectural drawings and a rain > clause. It also wouldn't hurt if doughnuts and coffee found their way to > the job site daily, along with tacos and burritos for lunch. > > Best always! > > MR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >> would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From al.harris at rustic-engines.com Wed Mar 18 18:38:46 2009 From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:38:46 +1100 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <535BFB3E-91D3-456F-AC8C-EF2870169406@me.com> References: <021f01c9a82f$63ea5280$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <535BFB3E-91D3-456F-AC8C-EF2870169406@me.com> Message-ID: <49C1A226.4050108@rustic-engines.com> 108 - I believe. Although I am getting confused here. Cheers, Al Harris Summer Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com David Rotigel wrote: > WOULD THAT BE THE SAME AS 54 CUBIC FEET? > Dave > > On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Tod Engine Foundation wrote: > > >> Tommy you just built a two cubic yard box! >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" > engine.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:54 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >> >>> 3 feet tall by 6 feet square. >>> >>> Tommy Turner >>> Magnolia, KY >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of >>> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >>> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >>> >>> >>> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >>> would be the dimensions of this box? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> > From gastzt at aol.com Wed Mar 18 18:39:09 2009 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:39:09 EDT Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Message-ID: This make GOOD insulation for a 8hp Stover engine--will keep it QUIETER! ha Stan **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) From james.kangas at timken.com Wed Mar 18 18:49:08 2009 From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:49:08 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <40C2E55B-E282-4D0A-8FEA-A9D0BB61C5B2@me.com> Message-ID: Yes I know,nothing is impossible if you can imagine it, too bad imagination is becoming so scarce. Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of David Rotigel Sent: Wed 3/18/2009 9:14 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert And keep in mind--WHAT YOU CAN IMAGINE YOU CAN BE! Dave On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:51 PM, Kangas, James G. wrote: > A box two feet by two feet by one foot deep would work.Just imagine > four blocks that are one foot by one foot by one foot. > Jim K. > > ________________________________ > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Wed 3/18/2009 8:36 PM > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. > What would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or > entity named above. 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The Timken Company / The > Timken Corporation _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 18 18:53:28 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:53:28 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL><020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <024b01c9a832$a3450350$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: Rick according to my input 1 cu ft = 7.48 gal so this would not be practical for me, I wish it was. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tod Engine Foundation" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >I would probably use the five gallon bucket as the standard of measurement > for your application. I don't know how many cubic feet a bucket is, and > I'm not dressed to go out and find one to measure one right now. > > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:12 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > From MaytagTwin at aol.com Wed Mar 18 18:54:05 2009 From: MaytagTwin at aol.com (MaytagTwin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:54:05 EDT Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Message-ID: In a message dated 3/18/2009 8:43:37 PM Central Daylight Time, rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com writes: I would probably use the five gallon bucket as the standard of measurement for your application. I don't know how many cubic feet a bucket is, and I'm not dressed to go out and find one to measure one right now. Rick Hi Rick, You can use this conversion factor: gallons (USA) cubic feet x 0.1337 take your 5 gallon bucket times 0.1337 to arrive at 0.6685 cubic feet. I think your idea of using a bucket as the standard is excellent as it doesn't weigh as much as a full cubic foot plus it comes with a handle and is readily available at little or no cost. Since the formula calls for cubic feet units, a five gallon bucket can be substituted so long as the bucket is used for each ingredient. Ron **************Great Deals on Dell 15" Laptops - Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433363x1201394532/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doub leclick.net%2Fclk%3B212935224%3B34245239%3Bb) From riga_fire at yahoo.com Wed Mar 18 18:54:14 2009 From: riga_fire at yahoo.com (Paul Russell) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <702837.35705.qm@web31802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Wouldn't it be easier to figure the ratio and use the five gallon bucket? ________________________________ From: "paulmaples at sbcglobal.net" To: The SEL email discussion list Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:12:51 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, compost, sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my raised beds in the garden and I needed a way to measure out the material. The idea is you measure out the various materials per the recipe and pour them onto a large 12' X 12' tarp and then get two people, one on each side and you roll the material back and forth over itself until it is well mixed and then put it in the beds. Thanks for the help. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tod Engine Foundation" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > 1x1x4 or > 2x2x1 will get you there > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >> would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Mar 18 19:08:53 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:08:53 -0700 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: Cube root of four Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com On Mar 18, 2009, at 5:36 PM, wrote: > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. > What would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Mar 18 19:09:00 2009 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:09:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <535BFB3E-91D3-456F-AC8C-EF2870169406@me.com> Message-ID: No Rick, a box 6 feet wide by 6 feet long (6 feet square in other words) by 3 feet high is 4 cubic yards. I thought he was asking for yards (I didn't carefully read the question where he asked for cubic feet). The ice storm has left a tremendous amount of limb and brush debris around here. All the companies cleaning up have quoted me a price per cubic yard to clean up my place. I guess I had yards on the mind. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:20 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert WOULD THAT BE THE SAME AS 54 CUBIC FEET? Dave On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Tod Engine Foundation wrote: > Tommy you just built a two cubic yard box! > > Rick > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judge Tommy Turner" > To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" engine.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:54 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> 3 feet tall by 6 feet square. >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of >> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >> would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Wed Mar 18 19:14:03 2009 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:14:03 +1100 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL><020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <702837.35705.qm@web31802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49D481C6AB124AC5B02264E21599FE82@bd32d875216e74> cut the bucket and reshape in one foot square box.? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Russell" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Wouldn't it be easier to figure the ratio and use the five gallon bucket? > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "paulmaples at sbcglobal.net" > To: The SEL email discussion list > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:12:51 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, > compost, > sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my raised > beds in the garden and I needed a way to measure out the material. The > idea > is you measure out the various materials per the recipe and pour them onto > a > large 12' X 12' tarp and then get two people, one on each side and you > roll > the material back and forth over itself until it is well mixed and then > put > it in the beds. > > Thanks for the help. > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tod Engine Foundation" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:53 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> 1x1x4 or >> 2x2x1 will get you there >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >>> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >>> would be the dimensions of this box? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Wed Mar 18 19:14:48 2009 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:14:48 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL><020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <024b01c9a832$a3450350$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <00a601c9a838$7f8fb850$7eaf28f0$@net> Maybe more practical than you think; 1.5 buckets awful close to 1 cuft so 6 buckets=4 about cuft :) Lew -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Rick according to my input 1 cu ft = 7.48 gal so this would not be practical for me, I wish it was. Paul From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Mar 18 19:17:54 2009 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:17:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <560C81354AFD4EE9AFC0FB1B9D3EA78B@tommydk7hxjr4h> Are you speaking of Imperial or US Gallons? Gallons by volume or weight? I have to make a gas tank for a small engine and I'd like for it to hold 2 gallons. If the interior width of my base is 8 inches and the maximum height the tank can be is 6 inches, how long does the tank need to be? ..... Just kidding folks! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Rick according to my input 1 cu ft = 7.48 gal so this would not be practical for me, I wish it was. Paul From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Mar 18 19:38:47 2009 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:38:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <49D481C6AB124AC5B02264E21599FE82@bd32d875216e74> Message-ID: <7C6F0E00271A4CF396F7A424B395BED6@tommydk7hxjr4h> Couldn't you just fill the hopper of a ZD Fairbanks and then dump it out? They're about 1 foot square aren't they? Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY cut the bucket and reshape in one foot square box.? > Wouldn't it be easier to figure the ratio and use the five gallon > bucket? > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What > would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > From riga_fire at yahoo.com Wed Mar 18 19:47:46 2009 From: riga_fire at yahoo.com (Paul Russell) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <560C81354AFD4EE9AFC0FB1B9D3EA78B@tommydk7hxjr4h> References: <560C81354AFD4EE9AFC0FB1B9D3EA78B@tommydk7hxjr4h> Message-ID: <183686.51288.qm@web31803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> US gallon?? 9.625" UK Gallon? 11.55914303" :-) ________________________________ From: Judge Tommy Turner To: The SEL email discussion list Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:17:54 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Are you speaking of Imperial or US Gallons? Gallons by volume or weight? I have to make a gas tank for a small engine and I'd like for it to hold 2 gallons.? If the interior width of my base is 8 inches and the maximum height the tank can be is 6 inches, how long does the tank need to be? ..... Just kidding folks! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Rick according to my input 1 cu ft = 7.48 gal so this would not be practical for me, I wish it was. Paul _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From falcon at telenet.net Wed Mar 18 20:19:47 2009 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:19:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <49C1B9D3.1020503@telenet.net> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: > Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, compost, > sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my raised > beds in the garden and I needed a way to measure out the material. The idea > is you measure out the various materials per the recipe and pour them onto a > large 12' X 12' tarp and then get two people, one on each side and you roll > the material back and forth over itself until it is well mixed and then put > it in the beds. > > Thanks for the help. > > Paul Use the bed itself. Measure the height X width X length. Use those numbers to calculate the amounts and use a standard 12" bucket for the measuring device. Keep in mind that your end result depends a LOT on what the moisture content is in the ingredients AND the compost size. All of my raised beds have a simple mix. They are 12'X3'X18" Each gets one large bale of peat, 100 pounds of humus soil, 100 pounds of compost and 50 pounds of sand. Makes a great media that grew tomato plants last year that produced over 100 pounds off SIX plants!!! I have to relocate my chives though, I started them 2 years ago, they are now taking over in one bed. I'm planning on using a tractor tire for them this year. -- Steve Williams From falcon at telenet.net Wed Mar 18 20:24:47 2009 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:24:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL><020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <024b01c9a832$a3450350$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <49C1BAFF.4020604@telenet.net> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: > Rick according to my input 1 cu ft = 7.48 gal so this would not be practical > for me, I wish it was. > > Paul Forgot to mention, Make a screening sieve for your compost. Makes it easier than digging out the big chunks all the time. -- Steve Williams From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 18 20:33:41 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:33:41 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL><020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <024b01c9a832$a3450350$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <49C1BAFF.4020604@telenet.net> Message-ID: Ok Steve, what size of the openings do you recommend in the screen? Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve W." To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: >> Rick according to my input 1 cu ft = 7.48 gal so this would not be >> practical >> for me, I wish it was. >> >> Paul > > Forgot to mention, Make a screening sieve for your compost. Makes it > easier than digging out the big chunks all the time. > > -- > Steve Williams > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 18 20:47:35 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:47:35 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <49C1A226.4050108@rustic-engines.com> References: <021f01c9a82f$63ea5280$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <535BFB3E-91D3-456F-AC8C-EF2870169406@me.com> <49C1A226.4050108@rustic-engines.com> Message-ID: (3X3=9)X3=27. 27X2=54! Dave PS, I Know you have 12 fingers--but for now just use 10 of them! On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:38 PM, Al Harris wrote: > 108 - I believe. > > Although I am getting confused here. > > Cheers, > > Al Harris > Summer Clarence Coast NSW Oz > > al.harris at rustic-engines.com > > > > David Rotigel wrote: >> WOULD THAT BE THE SAME AS 54 CUBIC FEET? >> Dave >> >> On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Tod Engine Foundation wrote: >> >> >>> Tommy you just built a two cubic yard box! >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >>> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" >> engine.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:54 PM >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >>> >>> >>> >>>> 3 feet tall by 6 feet square. >>>> >>>> Tommy Turner >>>> Magnolia, KY >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of >>>> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >>>> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >>>> >>>> >>>> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. >>>> What >>>> would be the dimensions of this box? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From al.harris at rustic-engines.com Wed Mar 18 21:17:49 2009 From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:17:49 +1100 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: <021f01c9a82f$63ea5280$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <535BFB3E-91D3-456F-AC8C-EF2870169406@me.com> <49C1A226.4050108@rustic-engines.com> Message-ID: <49C1C76D.3030008@rustic-engines.com> Use your feet as well and try 27X4=108 Now I am confused. :-\ Cheers, Al Harris Summer Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com David Rotigel wrote: > (3X3=9)X3=27. 27X2=54! > Dave > PS, I Know you have 12 fingers--but for now just use 10 of them! > > On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:38 PM, Al Harris wrote: > > >> 108 - I believe. >> >> Although I am getting confused here. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Al Harris >> Summer Clarence Coast NSW Oz >> >> al.harris at rustic-engines.com >> >> >> >> David Rotigel wrote: >> >>> WOULD THAT BE THE SAME AS 54 CUBIC FEET? >>> Dave >>> >>> On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Tod Engine Foundation wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Tommy you just built a two cubic yard box! >>>> >>>> Rick >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >>>> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" >>> engine.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:54 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> 3 feet tall by 6 feet square. >>>>> >>>>> Tommy Turner >>>>> Magnolia, KY >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of >>>>> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >>>>> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. >>>>> What >>>>> would be the dimensions of this box? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 18 21:34:20 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:34:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <024b01c9a832$a3450350$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <024b01c9a832$a3450350$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: A 5 gal. bucket appears to be about 12 in. in dia. and about 14' high. PI =3.14159265 (when dry.)(If the Pi is wet it is closer to 3.1415965!) PiXr2 =PiX(6x6) or 3.1415965X36=113.09747 113.09747 x14=1583.3645 cu inches. 12X12x12=1728 cu inches. 1728 is plenty close enought to 1583.3645 for givernment work! Argo, 4, five gallon buckets will be plenty cloce to the 4 cu feet of material that Paul needs! (This is even more true given that Paul is a rether sloppy bloke and tends to spill ~145 cu inches out of each bucket while carrying it to thr point of loading! Dave On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:32 PM, Tod Engine Foundation wrote: > I would probably use the five gallon bucket as the standard of > measurement > for your application. I don't know how many cubic feet a bucket > is, and > I'm not dressed to go out and find one to measure one right now. > > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:12 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, >> compost, >> sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my >> raised >> beds in the garden and I needed a way to measure out the material. >> The >> idea >> is you measure out the various materials per the recipe and pour >> them onto >> a >> large 12' X 12' tarp and then get two people, one on each side and >> you >> roll >> the material back and forth over itself until it is well mixed and >> then >> put >> it in the beds. >> >> Thanks for the help. >> >> Paul >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tod Engine Foundation" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:53 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >>> 1x1x4 or >>> 2x2x1 will get you there >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >>> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >>> >>> >>>> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. >>>> What >>>> would be the dimensions of this box? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 18 21:38:54 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:38:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <40C2E55B-E282-4D0A-8FEA-A9D0BB61C5B2@me.com> Message-ID: You believe this and still you tell someone to imagine a 1X1X1square block? Dave On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Kangas, James G. wrote: > Yes I know,nothing is impossible if you can imagine it, too bad > imagination is becoming so scarce. > Jim K. > > ________________________________ > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of David > Rotigel > Sent: Wed 3/18/2009 9:14 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > > And keep in mind--WHAT YOU CAN IMAGINE YOU CAN BE! > Dave > > On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:51 PM, Kangas, James G. wrote: > >> A box two feet by two feet by one foot deep would work.Just imagine >> four blocks that are one foot by one foot by one foot. >> Jim K. >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >> Sent: Wed 3/18/2009 8:36 PM >> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >> >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. >> What would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------- >> This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or >> entity named above. 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The Timken Company / The >> Timken Corporation _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 18 21:42:40 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:42:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <702837.35705.qm@web31802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <702837.35705.qm@web31802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good doG, the man can't figure out a 3rd grade squaring problem and already you want to have him move to 5th grade ratio? You are evil Paul--EVILL!!!!!!!!! Dave On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:54 PM, Paul Russell wrote: > Wouldn't it be easier to figure the ratio and use the five gallon > bucket? > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "paulmaples at sbcglobal.net" > To: The SEL email discussion list > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:12:51 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, > compost, > sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my > raised > beds in the garden and I needed a way to measure out the material. > The idea > is you measure out the various materials per the recipe and pour > them onto a > large 12' X 12' tarp and then get two people, one on each side and > you roll > the material back and forth over itself until it is well mixed and > then put > it in the beds. > > Thanks for the help. > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tod Engine Foundation" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:53 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> 1x1x4 or >> 2x2x1 will get you there >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >>> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. >>> What >>> would be the dimensions of this box? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 18 21:49:01 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:49:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3CD71EA0-21F6-43DD-91F6-1E25FFF0F8C5@me.com> Tommy, Wouldn't it be less money if you can get them to give you a pricr by thr cubic foot? Dave On Mar 18, 2009, at 10:09 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > No Rick, a box 6 feet wide by 6 feet long (6 feet square in other > words) > by 3 feet high is 4 cubic yards. I thought he was asking for yards (I > didn't carefully read the question where he asked for cubic feet). > The > ice storm has left a tremendous amount of limb and brush debris around > here. All the companies cleaning up have quoted me a price per cubic > yard to clean up my place. I guess I had yards on the mind. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David > Rotigel > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:20 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > WOULD THAT BE THE SAME AS 54 CUBIC FEET? > Dave > > On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Tod Engine Foundation wrote: > >> Tommy you just built a two cubic yard box! >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" > engine.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:54 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >>> 3 feet tall by 6 feet square. >>> >>> Tommy Turner >>> Magnolia, KY >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of >>> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >>> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >>> >>> >>> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. >>> What > >>> would be the dimensions of this box? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 19 03:39:30 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Message-ID: <546502.97582.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Wow, Paul I?just throw all the parts into my cement mixer. Alan --- On Wed, 3/18/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 9:12 PM Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, compost, sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my raised beds in the garden and I needed a way to measure out the material. The idea is you measure out the various materials per the recipe and pour them onto a large 12' X 12' tarp and then get two people, one on each side and you roll the material back and forth over itself until it is well mixed and then put it in the beds. Thanks for the help. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tod Engine Foundation" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > 1x1x4 or > 2x2x1 will get you there > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >> would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Mar 19 03:40:24 2009 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 06:40:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <3CD71EA0-21F6-43DD-91F6-1E25FFF0F8C5@me.com> Message-ID: Actually I think I'm going to print out some of the suggestions that have been posted on the SEL in regards to Paul's question. I'll ask them to quote it the various ways that have been listed. It will probably be cheaper for them to do it for free than to spend the time figuring! Tommy Turner -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:49 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Tommy, Wouldn't it be less money if you can get them to give you a pricr by thr cubic foot? Dave On Mar 18, 2009, at 10:09 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > No Rick, a box 6 feet wide by 6 feet long (6 feet square in other > words) > by 3 feet high is 4 cubic yards. I thought he was asking for yards (I > didn't carefully read the question where he asked for cubic feet). > The > ice storm has left a tremendous amount of limb and brush debris around > here. All the companies cleaning up have quoted me a price per cubic > yard to clean up my place. I guess I had yards on the mind. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David > Rotigel > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:20 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > WOULD THAT BE THE SAME AS 54 CUBIC FEET? > Dave > > On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Tod Engine Foundation wrote: > >> Tommy you just built a two cubic yard box! >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" > engine.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:54 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >>> 3 feet tall by 6 feet square. >>> >>> Tommy Turner >>> Magnolia, KY >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of >>> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >>> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >>> >>> >>> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. >>> What > >>> would be the dimensions of this box? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From galoway4 at hughes.net Thu Mar 19 03:51:13 2009 From: galoway4 at hughes.net (Arthur Buchanan) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:51:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <49C1B9D3.1020503@telenet.net> References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <49C1B9D3.1020503@telenet.net> Message-ID: <42D60257453E473F9D682334F71B0456@jokerB> Paul: Be sure to put hardware cloth in the bottom of beds to keep out gophers. - From: "Steve W." To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: >> Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, >> compost, >> sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my >> raised >> beds in the garden and I needed a way to measure out the material. The >> idea >> is you measure out the various materials per the recipe and pour them >> onto a >> large 12' X 12' tarp and then get two people, one on each side and you >> roll >> the material back and forth over itself until it is well mixed and then >> put >> it in the beds. >> >> Thanks for the help. >> >> Paul > > Use the bed itself. Measure the height X width X length. > Use those numbers to calculate the amounts and use a standard 12" bucket > for the measuring device. > Keep in mind that your end result depends a LOT on what the moisture > content is in the ingredients AND the compost size. > All of my raised beds have a simple mix. They are 12'X3'X18" > Each gets one large bale of peat, 100 pounds of humus soil, 100 pounds > of compost and 50 pounds of sand. Makes a great media that grew tomato > plants last year that produced over 100 pounds off SIX plants!!! > > I have to relocate my chives though, I started them 2 years ago, they > are now taking over in one bed. I'm planning on using a tractor tire for > them this year. > > -- > Steve Williams > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 19 06:04:06 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:04:06 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL><020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289><024b01c9a832$a3450350$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: You got it right Master Dave, sloppy is a good descriptive word for me. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >A 5 gal. bucket appears to be about 12 in. in dia. and about 14' high. > PI =3.14159265 (when dry.)(If the Pi is wet it is closer to 3.1415965!) > PiXr2 =PiX(6x6) or 3.1415965X36=113.09747 > 113.09747 x14=1583.3645 cu inches. > 12X12x12=1728 cu inches. > 1728 is plenty close enought to 1583.3645 for givernment work! > Argo, 4, five gallon buckets will be plenty cloce to the 4 cu feet of > material that Paul needs! (This is even more true given that Paul is a > rether sloppy bloke and tends to spill ~145 cu inches out of each > bucket while carrying it to thr point of loading! > Dave > > On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:32 PM, Tod Engine Foundation wrote: > >> I would probably use the five gallon bucket as the standard of >> measurement From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 19 06:09:00 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:09:00 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <546502.97582.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <955B672F903F4F4FA4C7483E45E18FD7@PAUL> Understand Alan and right now I am trying to find a used concrete mixer. The wife says I have gone crazy and need medical help as I am getting too involved in building these two small garden plots. I am trying to track down some good top soil, a used leaf shredder/chipper, used composter or I will have to build one, and a used concrete mixer. Oh well Dad always told me if I was going to be a bear to be a grizzly. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:39 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Wow, Paul I just throw all the parts into my cement mixer. Alan --- On Wed, 3/18/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 9:12 PM Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, compost, sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my raised From edstoller at earthlink.net Thu Mar 19 05:26:38 2009 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:26:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL><8575EFE43AEB45F28103B903DEC241F9@Ed> Message-ID: <4476817B49DC464A91D78AE5FE155C55@Ed> Actually Paul, we should turn this topic back to OLD IRON before the cabin fever is over. If you have an old 55 gal drum, measure the inside diameter and we can tell you how high it needs to be. Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Thanks Ed, I think I have got it now as the boys have been sending me all > sorts of options. I just posted a message of what I am trying to do and > why > I need this box. > > Man O Man, just a simple O.T has awaken the SEL members, getting a flood > of > responses which is great. > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed stoller" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:17 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> Paul, >> >> Try 2 ' X 2 'X 1 '. >> >> But, if you wanted to make a cylindered " box"" it would be 2 ' 3" in >> diameter and 1 foot high. >> >> Ed Stoller >> New Fairfield, CT >> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >>> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >>> would be the dimensions of this box? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Thu Mar 19 06:34:55 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:34:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <955B672F903F4F4FA4C7483E45E18FD7@PAUL> References: <546502.97582.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <955B672F903F4F4FA4C7483E45E18FD7@PAUL> Message-ID: <08A54700-7909-40AD-9D1C-F02B94A613DC@me.com> YOUR WIFE SEEMS TO BE A VERY PRECEPTIVE WOMEN! Dave On Mar 19, 2009, at 9:09 AM, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: > Understand Alan and right now I am trying to find a used concrete > mixer. The > wife says I have gone crazy and need medical help > > Paul From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Mar 19 07:59:33 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:59:33 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: Paul: An easy way is to make up a little 1" x 1" cube with the top open. Now, carefully fill the cube and pour the contents into your tarp and do this exactly 6,912 times. You will have precisely four cubic feet of rotten garbage......er, compost in your pile. Simple! Or you could just build a container with a capacity of exactly 0.1481481 cubic yards and fill it only once with the rotte........er, compost to get your four cubic feet. Now, is that compressed or loose? Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 07:36 PM > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 > cubic feet of soil. What would be the dimensions > of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From enginepaul at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 10:00:26 2009 From: enginepaul at gmail.com (P. Johns) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:00:26 -0700 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: <8d3c36fb0903191000i4f9a671dt61cc9046d39760fb@mail.gmail.com> My mom's dad had a farm in PA, and I visited it when I was a kid and thought it was an OK place. No one mentioned all this paper work and calculating going on to take care of garbage. At least us city folk consider what you people call 'compost' to be garbage. So while others are telling you to get a measuring tape and/or a hammer and saw, cement mixer and all that; I say move to the city. Paul in the city of Vallejo, CA - where I happen to have a house for rent From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Mar 19 13:31:02 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:31:02 EDT Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Message-ID: In a message dated 3/18/2009 9:33:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mr at carolina.rr.com writes: Plus it will cost $242.00 a square foot to build and it will take him 3 months, plus engineering fees, architectural drawings and a rain clause. There is dirt involved, so you have to have a soil disturbance permit and the person who does the actual digging must have a license to do so! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************Great Deals on Dell 15" Laptops - Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220029050x1201385914/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doub leclick.net%2Fclk%3B212974460%3B34272906%3Bh) From ncs0821 at rit.edu Thu Mar 19 15:15:27 2009 From: ncs0821 at rit.edu (Nicholas Stanley (RIT Student)) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:15:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: <466D2D6C1AED0C40BF3CE7B18914E3B4E52C6F@svits27.main.ad.rit.edu> The equation for the volume of a rectangular box is: V=L?w?h Where L, w, and h are the length, width, and height, respectively, of the inside of the box, if you want the internal volume. A cube (or square box) is just a special case where the length, width, and height are equal. So, if the length of a side of the cubic box is 's': V=s? Or if you want to know what the dimension of the side of a cubic box that holds a given amount, you take the cube root of the volume you want: s=??V If you need a box that holds a certain number of yards, convert the number of cubic yards you want to cubic feet. One cubic yard equals 27 cubic feet. So just multiply the number of cubic yards you want by 27 to get cubic feet. Perhaps a little easier than F-M water hoppers and pails. Hope this helps! -- Nick Stanley ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sent: Wed 3/18/2009 8:36 PM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What would be the dimensions of this box? Thanks, Paul _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Mar 19 16:00:17 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:00:17 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Brass spec plates Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090320001953.00c2d360@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi guys and Gals, 12.30 pm here and I'm just waiting for some plates to finish etching and then to bed. I thought that I'd use the time to let you all know that I've sorted out the problems that I had making these plates and for the last 3 weeks have been catching up on all my work in every free moment I've had. Within an hour of now I will be totally up to date and the last order that was placed with me 3 days ago will be ready for posting. I've posted plates to Aus, Britain, USA and locally the in the last 3 weeks and most have already reached their destination but I'm still waiting for 2 confirmations (Luke & Elden are you reading this :-)?) I'd like to thank all you guys who have supported me and thanks also for all the nice comments about my work. I've had the chance to make many beautiful plates (I mean the original design was beautiful - not my work) since I started making these in early 2005. I've never updated my "brass plate" webpage with new pictures but that's high on my list and will keep you informed. I now have artwork for a good number of different engine plates. Now for some unashamed promotion. If there is anyone out there needing plates and you have a good pic of an original now would be a good time to contact me. I'm also waiting for pictures and instructions from a certain member of these lists who won one (or was it two?) plates on the the S.E.L. Christmas Charity auction 2 years ago (or was it 3 years ago?). No names, no pack drill but JUDGING by how long he is taking he must be a very busy gentleman :-). All for now and thanks again for the support and friendship. I really do appreciate it. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From rotigel at me.com Thu Mar 19 16:02:50 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:02:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <466D2D6C1AED0C40BF3CE7B18914E3B4E52C6F@svits27.main.ad.rit.edu> References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <466D2D6C1AED0C40BF3CE7B18914E3B4E52C6F@svits27.main.ad.rit.edu> Message-ID: Good doG Nick, you lost him right after the first "L!" Dave PS, What's a "RIT?" On Mar 19, 2009, at 6:15 PM, Nicholas Stanley (RIT Student) wrote: > The equation for the volume of a rectangular box is: > > V=L?w?h > > Where L, w, and h are the length, width, and height, respectively, > of the inside of the box, if you want the internal volume. A cube > (or square box) is just a special case where the length, width, and > height are equal. > So, if the length of a side of the cubic box is 's': > > V=s? > > Or if you want to know what the dimension of the side of a cubic box > that holds a given amount, you take the cube root of the volume you > want: > > s=??V > > If you need a box that holds a certain number of yards, convert the > number of cubic yards you want to cubic feet. One cubic yard equals > 27 cubic feet. So just multiply the number of cubic yards you want > by 27 to get cubic feet. > > Perhaps a little easier than F-M water hoppers and pails. Hope this > helps! > > -- > Nick Stanley > > > > ________________________________ > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Wed 3/18/2009 8:36 PM > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. > What would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Mar 19 17:14:36 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:14:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Brass spec plates In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090320001953.00c2d360@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: My plates have not as yet arrived. I am patient, though. I'll give you a shout as soon as they get here. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jerry Evans > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 06:00 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Cc: stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Subject: [SEL] Brass spec plates > > > Hi guys and Gals, ......................snip............................ > I've posted plates to Aus, Britain, USA > and locally the in the > last 3 weeks and most have already reached their > destination but I'm still > waiting for 2 confirmations (Luke & Elden are you > reading this :-)?) ......................snip............................ > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Mar 19 16:52:23 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:52:23 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Brass spec plates/Oops! Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090320015101.029b98c8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi guys and Gals, 12.30 pm here and I'm just waiting for some plates to finish etching and then to bed. Sorry - typo that should have read 12.30 am (after midnight) Jerry From al.harris at rustic-engines.com Thu Mar 19 17:29:13 2009 From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:29:13 +1100 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <466D2D6C1AED0C40BF3CE7B18914E3B4E52C6F@svits27.main.ad.rit.edu> Message-ID: <49C2E359.3010809@rustic-engines.com> However Dave, you did notice it was 27X4, didn't you??????? Cheers, Al Harris Summer Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com David Rotigel wrote: > Good doG Nick, you lost him right after the first "L!" > Dave > PS, What's a "RIT?" > > On Mar 19, 2009, at 6:15 PM, Nicholas Stanley (RIT Student) wrote: > > >> The equation for the volume of a rectangular box is: >> >> V=L?w?h >> >> Where L, w, and h are the length, width, and height, respectively, >> of the inside of the box, if you want the internal volume. A cube >> (or square box) is just a special case where the length, width, and >> height are equal. >> So, if the length of a side of the cubic box is 's': >> >> V=s? >> >> Or if you want to know what the dimension of the side of a cubic box >> that holds a given amount, you take the cube root of the volume you >> want: >> >> s=??V >> >> If you need a box that holds a certain number of yards, convert the >> number of cubic yards you want to cubic feet. One cubic yard equals >> 27 cubic feet. So just multiply the number of cubic yards you want >> by 27 to get cubic feet. >> >> Perhaps a little easier than F-M water hoppers and pails. Hope this >> helps! >> >> -- >> Nick Stanley >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >> Sent: Wed 3/18/2009 8:36 PM >> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >> >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. >> What would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> > From rotigel at me.com Thu Mar 19 18:31:13 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:31:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass spec plates/Oops! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090320015101.029b98c8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090320015101.029b98c8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <27E3845A-9481-4220-9927-D79F556C4A4D@me.com> On Mar 19, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Jerry Evans wrote: > Hi guys and Gals, > Sorry - typo that should have read 12.30 am (after midnight) > Jerry WOW Jerry, That's what "am" means here also. What a small world! Dave From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 19 18:31:56 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Message-ID: <782012.2880.qm@web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have an extra?chipper/shredder that needs a engine. If YOU want it you can come pick it up. 8>)) Alan way up here in Michigan --- On Thu, 3/19/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 9:09 AM Understand Alan and right now I am trying to find a used concrete mixer. The wife says I have gone crazy and need medical help as I am getting too involved in building these two small garden plots. I am trying to track down some good top soil, a used leaf shredder/chipper, used composter or I will have to build one, and a used concrete mixer. Oh well Dad always told me if I was going to be a bear to be a grizzly. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:39 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Wow, Paul I just throw all the parts into my cement mixer. Alan --- On Wed, 3/18/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 9:12 PM Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, compost, sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my raised _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Thu Mar 19 20:29:59 2009 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:29:59 +1100 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <782012.2880.qm@web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20F177492A6742499AFA06BC9293E349@REG> Listen to your wife! Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert I have an extra chipper/shredder that needs a engine. If YOU want it you can come pick it up. 8>)) Alan way up here in Michigan --- On Thu, 3/19/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 9:09 AM Understand Alan and right now I am trying to find a used concrete mixer. The wife says I have gone crazy and need medical help as I am getting too involved in building these two small garden plots. I am trying to track down some good top soil, a used leaf shredder/chipper, used composter or I will have to build one, and a used concrete mixer. Oh well Dad always told me if I was going to be a bear to be a grizzly. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:39 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Wow, Paul I just throw all the parts into my cement mixer. Alan --- On Wed, 3/18/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 9:12 PM Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, compost, sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my raised _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Thu Mar 19 20:31:02 2009 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:31:02 +0900 Subject: [SEL] Brass spec plates/Oops! In-Reply-To: <27E3845A-9481-4220-9927-D79F556C4A4D@me.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090320015101.029b98c8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <27E3845A-9481-4220-9927-D79F556C4A4D@me.com> Message-ID: <49C30DF6.1030801@optusnet.com.au> David Rotigel wrote: > On Mar 19, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Jerry Evans wrote: > > >> Hi guys and Gals, >> Sorry - typo that should have read 12.30 am (after midnight) >> Jerry >> > > WOW Jerry, That's what "am" means here also. What a small world! > Dave > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Here, AM and PM mean Anti Meridian and Post Meridian, respectively JW? (but it's still a small world and we love it) From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 19 21:44:23 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:44:23 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <782012.2880.qm@web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20F177492A6742499AFA06BC9293E349@REG> Message-ID: Reg, I thought you were my supporter, now my wife's. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "R & M Ingold" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Listen to your wife! > Reg & Marg Ingold. > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 12:31 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > I have an extra chipper/shredder that needs a engine. > If YOU want it you can come pick it up. 8>)) > Alan way up here in Michigan > > --- On Thu, 3/19/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > wrote: > > > From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 9:09 AM > > > Understand Alan and right now I am trying to find a used concrete mixer. > The > wife says I have gone crazy and need medical help as I am getting too > involved in building these two small garden plots. I am trying to track > down > some good top soil, a used leaf shredder/chipper, used composter or I will > have to build one, and a used concrete mixer. Oh well Dad always told me > if > I was going to be a bear to be a grizzly. > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:39 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > Wow, Paul > I just throw all the parts into my cement mixer. > Alan > > --- On Wed, 3/18/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > wrote: > > > From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 9:12 PM > > > Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, > compost, > sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my raised > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From flywheelin at hotmail.com Fri Mar 20 03:52:23 2009 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:52:23 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Brass spec plates In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090320001953.00c2d360@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090320001953.00c2d360@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Hi Jerry, I still haven't seen it in the mail box. Will let you know as soon as it shows up. Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ============================= > Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:00:17 +0200 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > From: jerrye at databak.co.za > CC: stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Subject: [SEL] Brass spec plates > > Hi guys and Gals, > 12.30 pm here and I'm just waiting for some plates to finish > etching and then to bed. > > I thought that I'd use the time to let you all know that I've > sorted out the problems that I had making these plates and for the last 3 > weeks have been catching up on all my work in every free moment I've had. > Within an hour of now I will be totally up to date and the last order that > was placed with me 3 days ago will be ready for posting. > > I've posted plates to Aus, Britain, USA and locally the in the > last 3 weeks and most have already reached their destination but I'm still > waiting for 2 confirmations (Luke & Elden are you reading this :-)?) > > I'd like to thank all you guys who have supported me and thanks > also for all the nice comments about my work. I've had the chance to make > many beautiful plates (I mean the original design was beautiful - not my > work) since I started making these in early 2005. I've never updated my > "brass plate" webpage with new pictures but that's high on my list and will > keep you informed. I now have artwork for a good number of different engine > plates. > > Now for some unashamed promotion. If there is anyone out there > needing plates and you have a good pic of an original now would be a good > time to contact me. > > I'm also waiting for pictures and instructions from a certain > member of these lists who won one (or was it two?) plates on the the S.E.L. > Christmas Charity auction 2 years ago (or was it 3 years ago?). No names, > no pack drill but JUDGING by how long he is taking he must be a very busy > gentleman :-). > > All for now and thanks again for the support and friendship. I > really do appreciate it. > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_032009 From plowe at exemail.com.au Fri Mar 20 03:54:44 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:54:44 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Dom Miller's address wanted Message-ID: <4DC1806D2A7442B985CB3CA80351E29F@peterlowe> Hi All I am after Don Miller's email address, this one bounces: bjdeere1935 at sbcglobal.net Does anyone out there know who is making ignitors, I am after 2hp R&V ignitors. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Fri Mar 20 04:05:37 2009 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:05:37 +1100 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <782012.2880.qm@web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com><20F177492A6742499AFA06BC9293E349@REG> Message-ID: Aw, ya just cannot trust ANYONE these days!!! Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Reg, I thought you were my supporter, now my wife's. > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "R & M Ingold" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:29 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> Listen to your wife! >> Reg & Marg Ingold. >> Newcastle, NSW, Australia. >> randmingold at hotkey.net.au >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alan" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 12:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >> I have an extra chipper/shredder that needs a engine. >> If YOU want it you can come pick it up. 8>)) >> Alan way up here in Michigan >> >> --- On Thu, 3/19/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >> wrote: >> >> >> From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 9:09 AM >> >> >> Understand Alan and right now I am trying to find a used concrete mixer. >> The >> wife says I have gone crazy and need medical help as I am getting too >> involved in building these two small garden plots. I am trying to track >> down >> some good top soil, a used leaf shredder/chipper, used composter or I >> will >> have to build one, and a used concrete mixer. Oh well Dad always told me >> if >> I was going to be a bear to be a grizzly. >> >> Paul >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alan" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >> Wow, Paul >> I just throw all the parts into my cement mixer. >> Alan >> >> --- On Wed, 3/18/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >> wrote: >> >> >> From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 9:12 PM >> >> >> Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, >> compost, >> sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my >> raised >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Fri Mar 20 04:20:20 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:20:20 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Brian Wells phone number in Oz Message-ID: <038C369BD5B54CE090A42B29421BD868@peterlowe> Hi all Is the name of the guy that has all the Lister parts in Oz called Brian Wells, he lived near Tamworth area somewhere. Used to advertise in TOMM. If you know who I mean, did he only sell Lister or did he also sell Petter parts. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From bethell at internode.on.net Fri Mar 20 05:15:47 2009 From: bethell at internode.on.net (Jim&Geraldine Bethell) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:15:47 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Brian Wells phone number in Oz In-Reply-To: <038C369BD5B54CE090A42B29421BD868@peterlowe> References: <038C369BD5B54CE090A42B29421BD868@peterlowe> Message-ID: Peter, Brians advert is on page 55 of the last TOMM. He is still in business and he does supply Petter parts as well as Lister. I have dealt with him in the past and he is only too willing to assist. regards Jim Jim & Geraldine Bethell 12 Fush Place Mildura Victoria 3500 03-50213414 0427-213414 http://community.webshots.com/user/jimsiron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 10:20 PM Subject: [SEL] Brian Wells phone number in Oz > Hi all > > Is the name of the guy that has all the Lister parts in Oz called Brian > Wells, he lived near Tamworth area somewhere. Used to advertise in TOMM. > If you know who I mean, did he only sell Lister or did he also sell Petter > parts. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Fri Mar 20 05:27:48 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:27:48 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Brian Wells phone number in Oz References: <038C369BD5B54CE090A42B29421BD868@peterlowe> Message-ID: Thanks a lot Jim, I must have missed the advert, not like me ;-)) Regards Peter > Peter, > Brians advert is on page 55 of the last TOMM. He is still in business and > he > does supply Petter parts as well as Lister. I have dealt with him in the > past and he is only too willing to assist. > regards > Jim > > > Jim & Geraldine Bethell > 12 Fush Place > Mildura Victoria 3500 > 03-50213414 > 0427-213414 > http://community.webshots.com/user/jimsiron > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Lowe" > To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" > > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 10:20 PM > Subject: [SEL] Brian Wells phone number in Oz > > >> Hi all >> >> Is the name of the guy that has all the Lister parts in Oz called Brian >> Wells, he lived near Tamworth area somewhere. Used to advertise in TOMM. >> If you know who I mean, did he only sell Lister or did he also sell >> Petter >> parts. >> >> Regards >> Peter Lowe >> R&V Engine Registrar >> Australia >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From tchristoff at earthlink.net Fri Mar 20 06:20:00 2009 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:20:00 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [SEL] Dom Miller's address wanted Message-ID: <7417749.1237555200410.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Don Miller - bjdeere1935ignnitor at sbcglobal.net Tim Christoff Basehor Kansas -----Original Message----- >From: Peter Lowe >Sent: Mar 20, 2009 3:54 AM >To: ATIS , "Oldengine.org" >Subject: [SEL] Dom Miller's address wanted > >Hi All > >I am after Don Miller's email address, this one bounces: bjdeere1935 at sbcglobal.net > >Does anyone out there know who is making ignitors, I am after 2hp R&V ignitors. > >Regards >Peter Lowe >R&V Engine Registrar >Australia >http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Mar 21 12:34:45 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:34:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Show Directorys For sale?? In-Reply-To: References: <20090318.175537.1516.3.rdhaskell@juno.com> <6f6025160903210100mcdaf3fby5fe6ca1cba6948c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090321193441.C6D2F3E43DB@mail05.wcoil.com> Is anyone on the list selling show directories? I know they are available on line thru Ogden but I would just as soon patronize a list member. Can't let Ogden (Farm Collector) make all the money. Mark Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. Check out the Maytag Collectors Club web site www.Maytagclub.com From jdohagan at comcast.net Sat Mar 21 16:01:32 2009 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:01:32 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Field and Brundage Message-ID: <20090321230132.EBAC265B441@in02.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Hi, Does anyone have any paper on early Field Brundage engines sold in the early 1900's The information may also be included in early Fairbanks Morse catalogs and manuals because F.M. rebadged Fields and sold them under their Fairbanks brand.I'd gladly contribute towards your "shim stock fund" for any copies. Thanks for looking, Jimmy O'Hagan,415 892 0236 Novato, Ca.USA. Jim O'Hagan From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Sat Mar 21 20:59:44 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:59:44 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Field and Brundage In-Reply-To: <20090321230132.EBAC265B441@in02.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: Aren't 'Fairbanks Morse' and 'Fairbanks' two different and unrelated companies? On 22/3/09 10:01 AM, "Jim O'Hagan" wrote: > Hi, Does anyone have any paper on early Field Brundage engines sold in the > early 1900's The information may also be included in early Fairbanks Morse > catalogs and manuals because F.M. rebadged Fields and sold them under their > Fairbanks brand.I'd gladly contribute towards your "shim stock fund" for any > copies. Thanks for looking, Jimmy O'Hagan,415 892 0236 Novato, Ca.USA. > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Mar 21 21:17:22 2009 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:17:22 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Field and Brundage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9B8ABA2401CF4D849C08F45E9CCEF420@tommydk7hxjr4h> Yeah. The Field Brundage engines were sold by the Fairbanks Supply Company and Fairbanks put their name on them. Fairbanks Supply and Faibanks Morse were two totally separate companies. Fairbanks Supply also bought Callahan engines, Bates and Edmonds engines and others. The tags they placed on them said "Fairbanks Company". I've got a Callahan engine that has the Fairbanks tag on it rather than a Callahan tag. When a friend found the engine he told me he had found a "Fairbanks Morse sideshaft". Its an easy mistake to make. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:00 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Field and Brundage Aren't 'Fairbanks Morse' and 'Fairbanks' two different and unrelated companies? On 22/3/09 10:01 AM, "Jim O'Hagan" wrote: > Hi, Does anyone have any paper on early Field Brundage engines sold > in the early 1900's The information may also be included in early > Fairbanks Morse catalogs and manuals because F.M. rebadged Fields and > sold them under their Fairbanks brand.I'd gladly contribute towards > your "shim stock fund" for any copies. Thanks for looking, Jimmy > O'Hagan,415 892 0236 Novato, Ca.USA. > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Sun Mar 22 00:16:01 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:16:01 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Engine ignitors wanted Message-ID: <3DEB8FCE66F544A0B792E69A4B6B3180@peterlowe> Hi all I am after makers of ignitors other than Don Miller (who seems to be very busy) that can and will make good ignitors. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 12:44:33 2009 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:44:33 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Bearings (Ball and Roller) Message-ID: <6f6025160903221244u35c13c5dobc163f220e351914@mail.gmail.com> Looking for some replacement bearings for the Carrier Wheels, we found that the correct bearings were no longer available, and the dimensional replacement was ?40 a throw ($56.00) However, looking at the dimensions, we were able to find a much cheaper bearing by increasing the ID, which gave us a bearing price of ?5 or about $6.50. Two ebay vendors had them available. We have only had to increase the stub axle diameter from 40mm to 50mm to get into a volume priced bearing that is more than up to the job. Worth thinking about if you are able to modify an application, or when designing something new, go for the volume bearings, not the specials. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jdohagan at comcast.net Sun Mar 22 14:47:20 2009 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:47:20 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Field and Brundage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090322214721.4442F4054C2@in03.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> OOPS!, You guys are right! The last manual that I saw listed on Ebay was listed as a Fairbanks Morse book and I didn't catch the mistake. So does anyone have a "Fairbanks Co." manual that covers the Field Brundage fngines? JimmyO'Hagan 415 892 0236 Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:00 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Field and Brundage Aren't 'Fairbanks Morse' and 'Fairbanks' two different and unrelated companies? On 22/3/09 10:01 AM, "Jim O'Hagan" wrote: > Hi, Does anyone have any paper on early Field Brundage engines sold in the > early 1900's The information may also be included in early Fairbanks Morse > catalogs and manuals because F.M. rebadged Fields and sold them under their > Fairbanks brand.I'd gladly contribute towards your "shim stock fund" for any > copies. Thanks for looking, Jimmy O'Hagan,415 892 0236 Novato, Ca.USA. > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From blcksmth at wcnet.org Sun Mar 22 16:35:38 2009 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:35:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Northwest Ohio Blacksmiths at the Wood County Museum In-Reply-To: <6f6025160903221244u35c13c5dobc163f220e351914@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160903221244u35c13c5dobc163f220e351914@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Saturday April 04 the Northwest Ohio Blacksmiths will host an open forge at the Wood County Historical Society near Bowling Green, Ohio. This is the opening day for the Wood County Museum's 2009 season. The museum blacksmith shop is located next to the boiler for the steam powered oil drilling rig which I hear will be under steam power and the S.M. Jones gas engine oil pumping power display. We will have several portable forges operating in addition to the museum blacksmith shop. We plan to have some project for the smiths to make. The museum exhibits will be open. NOB activities start around 08:30 AM and the Museum opens between 09:00 and 10:00. The museum is located on US-6 just East of I-75 Southeast of Bowling Green, Ohio. You can see the oil drilling derrick from I-75 if you know where to look and it is easy to spot the from US-6. If you can come, all are welcome. www.woodcountyhistory.org www.nob-blacksmiths.org Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Mar 23 00:55:08 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:55:08 +0200 Subject: [SEL] What are you doing today? Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090323094622.028e21c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi All, It's 9:45am here and I'm just waiting for a mate to pick me up and then we are going flying in his restored 1946 SAAB Safire. (4 seater trainer.) (Darn thing is older than I am!!) According to reps of the SAAB factory who came to look at it a few years ago it is the best restored version of this aircraft around today so we should be quite safe :-) He builds and repairs aircraft so I'm really quite confident of his abilities. He is emigrating to Australia (Melbourne) and leaves tomorrow so this will be his last flight for a few months. He will be back in a few months to dismantle the plane and ship it off to AUS. I'll post pics when (if ??) I get back. Have a good day. Jerry From kosh at ncweb.com Mon Mar 23 01:33:41 2009 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 04:33:41 -0400 Subject: [SEL] What are you doing today? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090323094622.028e21c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20090323043214.0d21a400@ncweb.com> Here it is, the SAAB 91: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_91_Safir We used to have a couple SAAB 99's, but they didn't fly too good. Dave Merchant At 03:55 AM 3/23/2009, you wrote: >Hi All, > It's 9:45am here and I'm just waiting for a mate to pick me up > and then we >are going flying in his restored 1946 SAAB Safire. (4 seater trainer.) >(Darn thing is older than I am!!) > > According to reps of the SAAB factory who came to look at it a > few years >ago it is the best restored version of this aircraft around today so we >should be quite safe :-) > > He builds and repairs aircraft so I'm really quite confident of his >abilities. He is emigrating to Australia (Melbourne) and leaves tomorrow so >this will be his last flight for a few months. He will be back in a few >months to dismantle the plane and ship it off to AUS. > > I'll post pics when (if ??) I get back. >Have a good day. >Jerry > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From cgandree at mchsi.com Mon Mar 23 04:47:32 2009 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:47:32 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information Message-ID: <032320091147.2428.49C776D40003CB340000097C223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Hi Guys, Is there any one that lives close to American Fork, Utah? Need someone to help look at an engine for me. Thank you in advance, Curt Andree From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Mar 23 15:11:03 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:11:03 +0200 Subject: [SEL] What are you doing today? Update Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090323234152.028f4828@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi All, Further to my earlier post. A) I got back in 1 piece (Not that I ever doubted :-) !!) What a great experience - this is really a beautiful aeroplane. I flew in her in 2005 as well but that is so long ago that I'd forgotten how beautiful she was. Re the aircraft. Changes to my earlier post (and thanks for the replies). She is a 1947 (not 1946 as mentioned earlier) SAAB Safir 91C trainer (military/civilian) originally used by the "Ethiopian (sp.)Imperial Air Force" (Thats those skinny black dudes who smoke grass and listen to Bob Marley music :-)). Her No. in Ethiopia was 141 Her call signal is "ZU-DES" and a Google for ("SAAB Safir" "ZU-DES") will get lots of results. Her original Lycoming engine is now obsolete and she was refitted with a Continental engine. (I'm not sure of the specs.). I've put some pics here: Please look at them. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jdohagan at comcast.net Mon Mar 23 15:30:32 2009 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:30:32 -0700 Subject: [SEL] What are you doing today? Update In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090323234152.028f4828@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <20090323223033.E63A84C8CC8@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Jerry, Nice plane,but what's the Butt Buggy? Jimmy O'Hagan Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 3:11 PM To: slick at toltbbs.com Cc: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] What are you doing today? Update Hi All, Further to my earlier post. A) I got back in 1 piece (Not that I ever doubted :-) !!) What a great experience - this is really a beautiful aeroplane. I flew in her in 2005 as well but that is so long ago that I'd forgotten how beautiful she was. Re the aircraft. Changes to my earlier post (and thanks for the replies). She is a 1947 (not 1946 as mentioned earlier) SAAB Safir 91C trainer (military/civilian) originally used by the "Ethiopian (sp.)Imperial Air Force" (Thats those skinny black dudes who smoke grass and listen to Bob Marley music :-)). Her No. in Ethiopia was 141 Her call signal is "ZU-DES" and a Google for ("SAAB Safir" "ZU-DES") will get lots of results. Her original Lycoming engine is now obsolete and she was refitted with a Continental engine. (I'm not sure of the specs.). I've put some pics here: Please look at them. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ashpow at westnet.com.au Mon Mar 23 18:22:55 2009 From: ashpow at westnet.com.au (Ash Powell) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:22:55 +1100 Subject: [SEL] BMS 2 stroke engine? Message-ID: Hey all Ive picked up an old lawnmower (?) engine for free but cant find any info on it. Its a "BMS Series 10" It has a ratchet pull start with "Lawn Patrol" written on it. Any ideas of age, any info? Cheers Ash From rotigel at me.com Mon Mar 23 18:39:00 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:39:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information In-Reply-To: <032320091147.2428.49C776D40003CB340000097C223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <032320091147.2428.49C776D40003CB340000097C223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <823B17CC-21A4-4112-B003-0D2E56C86F47@me.com> Hi Curt, YES! Dave On Mar 23, 2009, at 7:47 AM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > Hi Guys, > Is there any one that lives close to American Fork, Utah? > Curt Andree From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Mon Mar 23 20:56:04 2009 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:56:04 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information In-Reply-To: <823B17CC-21A4-4112-B003-0D2E56C86F47@me.com> References: <032320091147.2428.49C776D40003CB340000097C223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> <823B17CC-21A4-4112-B003-0D2E56C86F47@me.com> Message-ID: Hey Dave, about 27,000 Kerry > Hi Curt, YES! > Dave > > On Mar 23, 2009, at 7:47 AM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > >> Hi Guys, >> Is there any one that lives close to American Fork, Utah? >> Curt Andree > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.25/2019 - Release Date: 03/23/09 18:51:00 From rotigel at me.com Tue Mar 24 13:16:36 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:16:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information In-Reply-To: References: <032320091147.2428.49C776D40003CB340000097C223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> <823B17CC-21A4-4112-B003-0D2E56C86F47@me.com> Message-ID: <88F1D243-96BB-4033-A72F-F97BE94CFA41@me.com> Damn, You would think AT LEAST one of them would respond to Curt! Dave On Mar 23, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Kerry wrote: > Hey Dave, about 27,000 > Kerry > > > > >> Hi Curt, YES! >> Dave >> >> On Mar 23, 2009, at 7:47 AM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: >> >>> Hi Guys, >>> Is there any one that lives close to American Fork, Utah? >>> Curt Andree >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.25/2019 - Release Date: > 03/23/09 > 18:51:00 > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From cgandree at mchsi.com Wed Mar 25 04:56:52 2009 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:56:52 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information In-Reply-To: <88F1D243-96BB-4033-A72F-F97BE94CFA41@me.com> References: <032320091147.2428.49C776D40003CB340000097C223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com><823B17CC-21A4-4112-B003-0D2E56C86F47@me.com> <88F1D243-96BB-4033-A72F-F97BE94CFA41@me.com> Message-ID: <032520091156.12597.49CA1C040007237B00003135223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Dave, Can not believe we don't have at least one member who is lurking on our list who can't help me out. Just want someone to take a few pics of the engine and get some details. The old coot who owns the engine has a large collection of other engines and tractors to look at a enjoys the company of other engine collectors. Who knows one might beable to buy a new prize if he is willing to sell. Please respond if you can help! Curt -------------- Original message from David Rotigel : -------------- > Damn, You would think AT LEAST one of them would respond to Curt! > Dave > > On Mar 23, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Kerry wrote: > > > Hey Dave, about 27,000 > > Kerry > > > > > > > > > >> Hi Curt, YES! > >> Dave > >> > >> On Mar 23, 2009, at 7:47 AM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Guys, > >>> Is there any one that lives close to American Fork, Utah? > >>> Curt Andree > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.25/2019 - Release Date: > > 03/23/09 > > 18:51:00 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Mar 25 05:08:18 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:08:18 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information References: <032320091147.2428.49C776D40003CB340000097C223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com><823B17CC-21A4-4112-B003-0D2E56C86F47@me.com><88F1D243-96BB-4033-A72F-F97BE94CFA41@me.com> <032520091156.12597.49CA1C040007237B00003135223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <8B51B3058FBC4629B2555F3371EE87DF@loungeroom> Curt When I used to run the LIST atlas with all List members pinned to the Atlas, I had no members in Utah at all, or anywhere near there.. Peter, Oz > Dave, > Can not believe we don't have at least one member who is lurking on our > list who can't help me out. > Just want someone to take a few pics of the engine and get some details. > The old coot who owns the engine has a large collection of other engines > and tractors to look at a enjoys the company of other engine collectors. > Who knows one might beable to buy a new prize if he is willing to sell. > Please respond if you can help! > Curt > -------------- Original message from David Rotigel > : -------------- > > >> Damn, You would think AT LEAST one of them would respond to Curt! >> Dave >> >> On Mar 23, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Kerry wrote: >> >> > Hey Dave, about 27,000 >> > Kerry >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> Hi Curt, YES! >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> On Mar 23, 2009, at 7:47 AM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi Guys, >> >>> Is there any one that lives close to American Fork, Utah? >> >>> Curt Andree >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SEL mailing list >> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > >> > > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.25/2019 - Release Date: >> > 03/23/09 >> > 18:51:00 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SEL mailing list >> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Mar 25 09:44:54 2009 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:44:54 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information Message-ID: <20090325.084454.660.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi Curt. Map quest says I am 627 miles away, is that close enough? Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:56:52 +0000 cgandree at mchsi.com writes: > Dave, > Can not believe we don't have at least one member who is lurking on > our list who can't help me out. > Just want someone to take a few pics of the engine and get some > details. The old coot who owns the engine has a large collection of > other engines and tractors to look at a enjoys the company of other > engine collectors. Who knows one might beable to buy a new prize if > he is willing to sell. > Please respond if you can help! > Curt ____________________________________________________________ Click here for free information on how to become certified as a project management professional. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTOZAmnvWp8tpJexvqwyCHWEfSrGrHVww6CxfMrSSWxh88MyHx9w3m/ From George_Best at adp.com Wed Mar 25 09:46:03 2009 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:46:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information In-Reply-To: <20090325.084454.660.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> References: <20090325.084454.660.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590A57A4F6@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> I'm 811 miles from there, so Ron it looks like it is closer for you! ;-) Curt, too bad you didn't post this last week or someone contacted me while I was in Arizona at the Cottonwood show. We could have easily driving past American Fork UT on our way back home and visiting collectors is something I enjoy doing. Coming back through Utah was one of our options and was what Garmin was telling us to do. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rdhaskell at juno.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:45 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information Hi Curt. Map quest says I am 627 miles away, is that close enough? Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:56:52 +0000 cgandree at mchsi.com writes: > Dave, > Can not believe we don't have at least one member who is lurking on > our list who can't help me out. > Just want someone to take a few pics of the engine and get some > details. The old coot who owns the engine has a large collection of > other engines and tractors to look at a enjoys the company of other > engine collectors. Who knows one might beable to buy a new prize if > he is willing to sell. > Please respond if you can help! > Curt ____________________________________________________________ Click here for free information on how to become certified as a project management professional. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTOZAmnvWp8tpJexvqwyCHW EfSrGrHVww6CxfMrSSWxh88MyHx9w3m/ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Mar 26 03:54:19 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:54:19 +1100 Subject: [SEL] R&V manuals wanted Message-ID: <08E88FFC78E14A9980E2E315E1B941C9@peterlowe> Hi all Does anyone out there have an "original copy" of this booklet: Price List of "R&V" Horizontal Hit-and-Miss Governing Engine Parts If so could you please contact me OFF LIST at plowe at exemail.com.au , (that means click here) I have an original copy missing pages 11 & 12, I am working on Chapter 7 of my R&V book covering the Hit & Miss Horizontals. I would also like to talk to those who also have other R&V original manuals. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From cgandree at mchsi.com Thu Mar 26 05:51:21 2009 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:51:21 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information In-Reply-To: <20090325.084454.660.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <032620091251.14316.49CB7A490006FBC3000037EC223045151403010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Ron, So far you re nearest to the old boys farm. Guess its up to you if you want to make the roady, might be worth your while. The only payment would be a big THANK YOU as I am just after research info and not interested in buying anything. Contact me off list or I could give you a phone call. thank you, Curt -------------- Original message from rdhaskell at juno.com: -------------- > Hi Curt. Map quest says I am 627 miles away, is that close enough? > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:56:52 +0000 cgandree at mchsi.com writes: > > Dave, > > Can not believe we don't have at least one member who is lurking on > > our list who can't help me out. > > Just want someone to take a few pics of the engine and get some > > details. The old coot who owns the engine has a large collection of > > other engines and tractors to look at a enjoys the company of other > > engine collectors. Who knows one might beable to buy a new prize if > > he is willing to sell. > > Please respond if you can help! > > Curt > ____________________________________________________________ Click here for free information on how to become certified as a project > management professional. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTOZAmnvWp8tpJexvqwyCHWEfSrGrHV > ww6CxfMrSSWxh88MyHx9w3m/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Thu Mar 26 08:11:03 2009 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:11:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information In-Reply-To: <032620091251.14316.49CB7A490006FBC3000037EC223045151403010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <20090325.084454.660.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> <032620091251.14316.49CB7A490006FBC3000037EC223045151403010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590A5A8E2D@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Curt, Try contacting DirtbikePilot at hotmail.com. He's a young engine collector in the Salt Lake City area. You could probably talk him into going to visit the old coot. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of cgandree at mchsi.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:51 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information Ron, So far you re nearest to the old boys farm. Guess its up to you if you want to make the roady, might be worth your while. The only payment would be a big THANK YOU as I am just after research info and not interested in buying anything. Contact me off list or I could give you a phone call. thank you, Curt -------------- Original message from rdhaskell at juno.com: -------------- > Hi Curt. Map quest says I am 627 miles away, is that close enough? > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:56:52 +0000 cgandree at mchsi.com writes: > > Dave, > > Can not believe we don't have at least one member who is lurking on > > our list who can't help me out. > > Just want someone to take a few pics of the engine and get some > > details. The old coot who owns the engine has a large collection of > > other engines and tractors to look at a enjoys the company of other > > engine collectors. Who knows one might beable to buy a new prize if > > he is willing to sell. > > Please respond if you can help! > > Curt > ____________________________________________________________ Click here for free information on how to become certified as a project > management professional. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTOZAmnvWp8tpJexvqwyCHW EfSrGrHV > ww6CxfMrSSWxh88MyHx9w3m/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Sat Mar 28 21:27:12 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:27:12 +1100 Subject: [SEL] A couple of toys running Message-ID: Having a productive weekend at home I fired up a couple of engines that have not had any attention for a while. The 2hp R&V has only run for short periods since I got it running. I pulled fuel lines and carby off, cleaned eveything especially giving the check valve lots of attention. It is now running well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpvP557yOAc My F&J Farm Pumper has been buried for some years so it was due to come out. The fuel smells really bad but it does run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7EV2mQ_Moo Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Sat Mar 28 23:24:08 2009 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:24:08 +1100 Subject: [SEL] A couple of toys running References: Message-ID: The fuel we have to contend with these days, after a shortish time, has a smell that would, ..............I dunno quite WHAT to say about it! It aint what we used to run our toys on, thats for flamin sure. For what it costs us, when evaporated, it should have a golden glint! Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick" To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine" Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 3:27 PM Subject: [SEL] A couple of toys running > Having a productive weekend at home I fired up a couple of engines that > have > not had any attention for a while. > The 2hp R&V has only run for short periods since I got it running. I > pulled > fuel lines and carby off, cleaned eveything especially giving the check > valve lots of attention. It is now running well: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpvP557yOAc > > My F&J Farm Pumper has been buried for some years so it was due to come > out. > The fuel smells really bad but it does run: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7EV2mQ_Moo > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Sun Mar 29 02:04:42 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:04:42 +1100 Subject: [SEL] A couple of toys running References: Message-ID: <82ABCDB334904F4285935AD6225E5B22@peterlowe> Both my common Moffat Virtues will not start unless the unleaded fuel was baked that morning, it must be fresh fuel or you will crank your arm off. Kaye's Maytag naturally runs on anything, first time ;-)) Peter, Oz > The fuel we have to contend with these days, after a shortish time, has a > smell that would, ..............I dunno quite WHAT to say about it! > It aint what we used to run our toys on, thats for flamin sure. > For what it costs us, when evaporated, it should have a golden glint! > Reg & Marg Ingold. > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick" > To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine" > > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 3:27 PM > Subject: [SEL] A couple of toys running > > >> Having a productive weekend at home I fired up a couple of engines that >> have >> not had any attention for a while. >> The 2hp R&V has only run for short periods since I got it running. I >> pulled >> fuel lines and carby off, cleaned eveything especially giving the check >> valve lots of attention. It is now running well: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpvP557yOAc >> >> My F&J Farm Pumper has been buried for some years so it was due to come >> out. >> The fuel smells really bad but it does run: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7EV2mQ_Moo >> >> >> Patrick M Livingstone >> Leichhardt NSW >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Mar 29 08:09:11 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:09:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] A couple of toys running In-Reply-To: <82ABCDB334904F4285935AD6225E5B22@peterlowe> References: <82ABCDB334904F4285935AD6225E5B22@peterlowe> Message-ID: Damn right. It doesn't matter HOW old the smoke & mirrors are... On Sun, March 29, 2009 5:04 am, Peter Lowe wrote: > > Kaye's Maytag naturally runs on anything, first time ;-)) > > Peter, Oz -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From rdhaskell at juno.com Sun Mar 29 11:24:09 2009 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:24:09 -0800 Subject: [SEL] First show of the season Message-ID: <20090329.102411.1052.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi all. My local club WAPA (Western Antique Power Associates) was invited to participate in the Highland Citrus Festival in Highland CA. Here are some pictures of our display. It was a beautiful Southern California day, with temps in the low 80's, clear skies, and gentle breezes, and best of all good friends. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/HighlandCitrusFestoval2009?authkey =Gv1sRgCMexx6qmyZ6b2gE# Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Hit the slopes! Click now for great packages for your ski vacation! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLw9V9wuDlam6Tf5Yy3yDfJZ7mZHzZv7OoRgC0nkOveXEVLCYVHEU/ From rob at rustyiron.com Sun Mar 29 10:55:17 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:55:17 -0700 Subject: [SEL] First show of the season In-Reply-To: References: <20090329.102411.1052.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <897EF2DC-2BDB-4D0C-8CCA-D1A80ABCB5B5@rustyiron.com> Hi, Frank. Oftentimes the List Server software splits a URL. It's easy to paste the to lines back into one. Try this, I did it for you: http://tinyurl.com/dckjr3 Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com On Mar 29, 2009, at 10:46 AM, frank skinner wrote: > Ron; > google 500 internal server error, couldnt view the pix > > Franklin S. Skinner > Marine Surveyor & Consultant > 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 > 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West > PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > > Hi all. > > My local club WAPA (Western Antique Power Associates) was invited to > > participate in the Highland Citrus Festival in Highland CA. Here are > > some pictures of our display. It was a beautiful Southern California > > day, with temps in the low 80's, clear skies, and gentle breezes, > and > > best of all good friends. > > > > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/HighlandCitrusFestoval2009?authkey > > =Gv1sRgCMexx6qmyZ6b2gE# > > > > Ron Haskell > > rdhaskell at juno.com > > Riverside, California USA > > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Sun Mar 29 12:32:17 2009 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:32:17 +0100 Subject: [SEL] First show of the season References: <20090329.102411.1052.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <003501c9b0a5$1328c060$3a290556@intrepid> Hi Ron, If you are using Outlook Express I find the setting to use in O.E. is to set Tools/Options/Send/Mail Text Formats/Plain Text Setting to 132. You can then hit return to get a wrap when you want it! See http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/HighlandCitrusFestoval2009?authkey=Gv1sRgCMexx6qmyZ6b2gE# Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 7:24 PM Subject: [SEL] First show of the season > Hi all. > My local club WAPA (Western Antique Power Associates) was invited to > participate in the Highland Citrus Festival in Highland CA. Here are > some pictures of our display. It was a beautiful Southern California > day, with temps in the low 80's, clear skies, and gentle breezes, and > best of all good friends. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/HighlandCitrusFestoval2009?authkey > =Gv1sRgCMexx6qmyZ6b2gE# > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > ____________________________________________________________ > Hit the slopes! Click now for great packages for your ski vacation! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLw9V9wuDlam6Tf5Yy3yDfJZ7mZHzZv7OoRgC0nkOveXEVLCYVHEU/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.285 / Virus Database: 270.11.31/2028 - Release Date: 03/28/09 07:16:00 From rdhaskell at juno.com Sun Mar 29 14:06:14 2009 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:06:14 -0800 Subject: [SEL] First show of the season Message-ID: <20090329.130614.1864.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Thanks Dave. I am not using Outlook Express. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:32:17 +0100 "Dave Croft" writes: > Hi Ron, If you are using Outlook Express I find the setting to use in > O.E. > is to set Tools/Options/Send/Mail Text Formats/Plain Text Setting to > 132. > You can then hit return to get a wrap when you want it! See > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/HighlandCitrusFestoval2009?authkey =Gv1sRgCMexx6qmyZ6b2gE# > Dave Croft > Warrington > http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > ____________________________________________________________ Click to compare refinance loan offers from national lenders. Apply fast & easy online. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTFDGKInisxsyZJXH3t2LetKwekMmvYmVGwdJbz1pUgVZvym74ZB2Q/ From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Sun Mar 29 17:34:27 2009 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:34:27 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? Message-ID: <49D01393.9080109@optusnet.com.au> I'm becoming convinced that my workshop lies in an area overlapped by an alternative universe and ours. Evidence: Case 1. Quite regularly pieces of my equipment (e.g., tools, parts, instruments), simply disappear if I take my eyes off them for an instant. Shortly afterwards, they reappear, often now to be found in a place nearby but where certainly I did not put them. Case 2. If I drop a part, usually a small screw or similar article, it is useless to look for it immediately. It has been spirited away for examination, possible even to be reproduced for their own projects, then replaced quite soon after, quite undamaged but often feeling slightly warm - they must be quick workers. I have learned not to bother to look for anything I have dropped immediately, but after a short while it may be found, but not always exactly where a reasonable person would expect it to be. Conclusion: The inhabitants of this universe seem to be mischievious but so far, irritating but harmless to me. I have theorised that they may even be engaged in the restoration of old machinery, even to the extent of projects identical with mine, as they seem to take a keen interest in my projects. Queries: 1. How do I block a worm-hole? 2. Has this phenomenon been experienced elsewhere or is there a better explanation for these perplexing happenings which have been increasing in frequency in recent years? 3. Mrs JW claims occasionally to have spotted an old man with a long white beard and carrying a scythe in the vicinity. Any co-relationshsip? JW? From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Mar 29 17:55:18 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:55:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? References: <49D01393.9080109@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <004701c9b0d2$3252d5c0$66674b47@mikecomp> Odd, we must be on the same parallel. I just assumned it was only happening to me, then just last week the same things occurred to me as you, and my brother was no where around to have stolen, I mean moved these things. It could be magnetism and old iron!. MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 8:34 PM Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? I'm becoming convinced that my workshop lies in an area overlapped by an alternative universe and ours. Evidence: Case 1. Quite regularly pieces of my equipment (e.g., tools, parts, instruments), simply disappear if I take my eyes off them for an instant. Shortly afterwards, they reappear, often now to be found in a place nearby but where certainly I did not put them. Case 2. If I drop a part, usually a small screw or similar article, it is useless to look for it immediately. It has been spirited away for examination, possible even to be reproduced for their own projects, then replaced quite soon after, quite undamaged but often feeling slightly warm - they must be quick workers. I have learned not to bother to look for anything I have dropped immediately, but after a short while it may be found, but not always exactly where a reasonable person would expect it to be. Conclusion: The inhabitants of this universe seem to be mischievious but so far, irritating but harmless to me. I have theorised that they may even be engaged in the restoration of old machinery, even to the extent of projects identical with mine, as they seem to take a keen interest in my projects. Queries: 1. How do I block a worm-hole? 2. Has this phenomenon been experienced elsewhere or is there a better explanation for these perplexing happenings which have been increasing in frequency in recent years? 3. Mrs JW claims occasionally to have spotted an old man with a long white beard and carrying a scythe in the vicinity. Any co-relationshsip? JW? _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jopeter at omninet.net.au Sun Mar 29 20:39:00 2009 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:39:00 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? References: <49D01393.9080109@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <65ABB9597B5D497F8723BB56F0F1A4A1@your9e74d7efa7> Jack ,it is called ''Old Age'' BTW how are you apart from the stated problem ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:34 AM Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? > I'm becoming convinced that my workshop lies in an area overlapped by an > alternative universe and ours. > > Evidence: > Case 1. Quite regularly pieces of my equipment (e.g., tools, parts, > instruments), simply disappear if I take my eyes off them for an > instant. Shortly afterwards, they reappear, often now to be found in a > place nearby but where certainly I did not put them. > > Case 2. If I drop a part, usually a small screw or similar article, it > is useless to look for it immediately. It has been spirited away for > examination, possible even to be reproduced for their own projects, then > replaced quite soon after, quite undamaged but often feeling slightly > warm - they must be quick workers. I have learned not to bother to look > for anything I have dropped immediately, but after a short while it may > be found, but not always exactly where a reasonable person would expect > it to be. > > Conclusion: The inhabitants of this universe seem to be mischievious but > so far, irritating but harmless to me. I have theorised that they may > even be engaged in the restoration of old machinery, even to the extent > of projects identical with mine, as they seem to take a keen interest in > my projects. > > Queries: > 1. How do I block a worm-hole? > 2. Has this phenomenon been experienced elsewhere or is there a better > explanation for these perplexing happenings which have been increasing > in frequency in recent years? > 3. Mrs JW claims occasionally to have spotted an old man with a long > white beard and carrying a scythe in the vicinity. Any co-relationshsip? > > JW? > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From gibsongus at earthlink.net Sun Mar 29 22:30:44 2009 From: gibsongus at earthlink.net (Gus) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 01:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] First show of the season Message-ID: <27682854.1238391044416.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Ron I can't see the pics. all I get is server error... GUS -----Original Message----- >From: rdhaskell at juno.com >Sent: Mar 29, 2009 5:06 PM >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Subject: Re: [SEL] First show of the season > >Thanks Dave. I am not using Outlook Express. > >Ron Haskell >rdhaskell at juno.com >Riverside, California USA >http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > >On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:32:17 +0100 "Dave Croft" >writes: >> Hi Ron, If you are using Outlook Express I find the setting to use in >> O.E. >> is to set Tools/Options/Send/Mail Text Formats/Plain Text Setting to >> 132. >> You can then hit return to get a wrap when you want it! See >> >http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/HighlandCitrusFestoval2009?authkey >=Gv1sRgCMexx6qmyZ6b2gE# >> Dave Croft >> Warrington >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ >> http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv >> >____________________________________________________________ >Click to compare refinance loan offers from national lenders. Apply fast & easy online. >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTFDGKInisxsyZJXH3t2LetKwekMmvYmVGwdJbz1pUgVZvym74ZB2Q/ >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------- Gus Whittier, CA From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Mon Mar 30 03:00:01 2009 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:00:01 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? OT. In-Reply-To: <004701c9b0d2$3252d5c0$66674b47@mikecomp> References: <49D01393.9080109@optusnet.com.au> <004701c9b0d2$3252d5c0$66674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <1C112416B0A0441CA3D63AA0B96D366A@KerryPC> Mike you must be on some different parallel to me as you answered Jack at 12.15pm Sydney time but Jack only asked the question at 12.59pm. cannot blame the good Oyster this time. Kerry > Odd, we must be on the same parallel. I just assumned it was only > happening > to me, then just last week the same things occurred to me as you, and my > brother was no where around to have stolen, I mean moved these things. It > could be magnetism and old iron!. From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Mar 30 09:50:31 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:50:31 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090330184341.027186e0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 30/03/2009, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:39:00 +0800 >From: "peter ogborne" >Subject: Re: [SEL] Parallel Universe? > >Jack ,it is called ''Old Age'' BTW how are you apart from the stated >problem ? No Peter, I think you have it wrong there! The same thing happens to me and even did when I was much younger! The frustrating part is that it usually only happens with tools or parts of which you only have "1 in stock". These characters often "return" it straight after I've driven 20 miles and back to buy a replacement :-) Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From Germoamer at aol.com Mon Mar 30 13:38:43 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:38:43 EDT Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? Message-ID: In a message dated 3/29/2009 8:43:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nadejack at optusnet.com.au writes: I drop a part, usually a small screw or similar article, it is useless to look for it immediately I have a large horseshoe magnet that helps to confuse the universe's parallel lines and locate dropped parts! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> This mornings parallel visit, I decided to change the blade of a Stanley knife, all went well new blade, two halves back together, put the screw in, where's the screw that I pulled out a minute ago, after cleaning the bench down, sweeping the workshop floor and on hands and knees looking at all places it could have fallen then redoing it all again. 1 1/2 hr later I found it, yes in the garbage bin with the old blade, must have thrown both away I was 60 yesterday so I think old age is now with me :-(( Kerry > > > I have a large horseshoe magnet that helps to confuse the universe's > parallel lines and locate dropped parts! From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Mar 30 16:41:26 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:41:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> References: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> Message-ID: Happy Birthday Kerry!!! you're still a youngster! Steve > From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:14:22 +1100 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Parallel Universe? > > This mornings parallel visit, I decided to change the blade of a Stanley > knife, all went well new blade, two halves back together, put the screw in, > where's the screw that I pulled out a minute ago, after cleaning the bench > down, sweeping the workshop floor and on hands and knees looking at all > places it could have fallen then redoing it all again. 1 1/2 hr later I > found it, yes in the garbage bin with the old blade, must have thrown both > away > I was 60 yesterday so I think old age is now with me :-(( > > Kerry > > > > > > > > > I have a large horseshoe magnet that helps to confuse the universe's > > parallel lines and locate dropped parts! > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_032009 From page at velocitynet.com.au Mon Mar 30 16:50:30 2009 From: page at velocitynet.com.au (Ron Page) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:50:30 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> Message-ID: <000b01c9b192$4f3f9b80$6c3bfea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> Hey Kerry 60 isn't old. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2009 9:14 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Parallel Universe? This mornings parallel visit, I decided to change the blade of a Stanley knife, all went well new blade, two halves back together, put the screw in, where's the screw that I pulled out a minute ago, after cleaning the bench down, sweeping the workshop floor and on hands and knees looking at all places it could have fallen then redoing it all again. 1 1/2 hr later I found it, yes in the garbage bin with the old blade, must have thrown both away I was 60 yesterday so I think old age is now with me :-(( Kerry > > > I have a large horseshoe magnet that helps to confuse the universe's > parallel lines and locate dropped parts! _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - Release Date: 20/03/2009 7:01 PM From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Mar 30 18:29:53 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:29:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? References: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> Message-ID: <002601c9b1a0$316e3680$66674b47@mikecomp> Fear not Kerry. I spent the weekend with Steve working on engines and I heard him on many occasion ask where he left the adjustable wrench! Pictures to follow in a bit. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Parallel Universe? > This mornings parallel visit, I decided to change the blade of a Stanley > knife, all went well new blade, two halves back together, put the screw > in, > where's the screw that I pulled out a minute ago, after cleaning the bench > down, sweeping the workshop floor and on hands and knees looking at all > places it could have fallen then redoing it all again. 1 1/2 hr later I > found it, yes in the garbage bin with the old blade, must have thrown both > away > I was 60 yesterday so I think old age is now with me :-(( > > Kerry > > > >> >> >> I have a large horseshoe magnet that helps to confuse the universe's >> parallel lines and locate dropped parts! > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Mon Mar 30 18:36:03 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:36:03 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> Message-ID: Happy Birthday Kerry! Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From endacomm10 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 30 20:11:58 2009 From: endacomm10 at yahoo.com (S. Work) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? Message-ID: <870399.59976.qm@web65402.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> 'IN GOD WE TRUST' --- On Mon, 3/30/09, Jerry Evans wrote: From: Jerry Evans Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 12:50 PM At 06:00 PM 30/03/2009, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:39:00 +0800 >From: "peter ogborne" >Subject: Re: [SEL] Parallel Universe? > >Jack ,it is called ''Old Age''???BTW how are you apart from the stated >problem ? No Peter, ? ? ? ???I think you have it wrong there! The same thing happens to me and even did when I was much younger! ? ? ? ???The frustrating part is that it usually only happens with tools or parts of which you only have "1 in stock". These characters often "return" it straight after I've driven 20 miles and back to buy a replacement :-) ? Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Tue Mar 31 01:15:59 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:15:59 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: <000b01c9b192$4f3f9b80$6c3bfea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> References: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> <000b01c9b192$4f3f9b80$6c3bfea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> Message-ID: <20090331081558.DB0EB3B442B@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> Bull shit it aint OLD hahahaha LOL Russ At 10:50 AM 31/03/2009, you wrote: >Hey Kerry 60 isn't old. > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry >Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2009 9:14 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] Parallel Universe? > >This mornings parallel visit, I decided to change the blade of a Stanley >knife, all went well new blade, two halves back together, put the screw in, >where's the screw that I pulled out a minute ago, after cleaning the bench >down, sweeping the workshop floor and on hands and knees looking at all >places it could have fallen then redoing it all again. 1 1/2 hr later I >found it, yes in the garbage bin with the old blade, must have thrown both >away >I was 60 yesterday so I think old age is now with me :-(( > >Kerry > > > > > > > > > I have a large horseshoe magnet that helps to confuse the universe's > > parallel lines and locate dropped parts! > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >-- >Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - Release Date: 20/03/2009 >7:01 PM > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fbi at insulate.co.uk Tue Mar 31 02:05:56 2009 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:05:56 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> References: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> Message-ID: <49D1DCF4.1020208@insulate.co.uk> Rubbish, Kerry - just look at Dave! Now THAT's old. Happy birthday for yesterday! Jim & Dolly Kerry wrote: > I was 60 yesterday so I think old age is now with me :-(( > > Kerry > > > -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Tue Mar 31 03:43:31 2009 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:43:31 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: <49D1DCF4.1020208@insulate.co.uk> References: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> <49D1DCF4.1020208@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <619E1434CB8F483BABF51F2C1268820C@KerryPC> Ain't that the truth > Rubbish, Kerry - just look at Dave! Now THAT's old. > From cgandree at mchsi.com Tue Mar 31 04:02:14 2009 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:02:14 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> References: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> Message-ID: <033120091102.21560.49D1F836000E1FA900005438223045151403010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Hey mate so long as you can keep enjoying all the "porn" you send out you're not too old yet! "HAPPY BIRTHDAY" and many more. Curt -------------- Original message from "Kerry" : -------------- > This mornings parallel visit, I decided to change the blade of a Stanley > knife, all went well new blade, two halves back together, put the screw in, > where's the screw that I pulled out a minute ago, after cleaning the bench > down, sweeping the workshop floor and on hands and knees looking at all > places it could have fallen then redoing it all again. 1 1/2 hr later I > found it, yes in the garbage bin with the old blade, must have thrown both > away > I was 60 yesterday so I think old age is now with me :-(( > > Kerry > > > > > > > > > I have a large horseshoe magnet that helps to confuse the universe's > > parallel lines and locate dropped parts! > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Tue Mar 31 04:27:09 2009 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:27:09 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: <65ABB9597B5D497F8723BB56F0F1A4A1@your9e74d7efa7> References: <49D01393.9080109@optusnet.com.au> <65ABB9597B5D497F8723BB56F0F1A4A1@your9e74d7efa7> Message-ID: <49D1FE0D.3040603@optusnet.com.au> peter ogborne wrote: > Jack ,it is called ''Old Age'' BTW how are you apart from the stated > problem ? > Old? Pshaw! I had my nineteenth and a quarter birthday on the last day of February - but then, I only get a birthday every 4 years . . . But thanks for the message. JW? From Germoamer at aol.com Tue Mar 31 04:43:39 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 07:43:39 EDT Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? Message-ID: In a message dated 3/30/2009 6:24:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ozengine at optusnet.com.au writes: I found it, yes in the garbage bin with the old blade That is why they put "car finders" on your key chain now. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Mar 31 09:57:00 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:57:00 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 60, Issue 27 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090331185536.01f1e730@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 31/03/2009, you wrote: >From: "Kerry" >Subject: Re: [SEL] Parallel Universe? > >I was 60 yesterday so I think old age is now with me :-(( >Kerry Happy (belated) Birthday Kerry, You beat me to it by a few months. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jneth3 at mac.com Tue Mar 31 10:42:39 2009 From: jneth3 at mac.com (John Neth) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:42:39 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: <49D1DCF4.1020208@insulate.co.uk> References: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> <49D1DCF4.1020208@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: You know you are getting old when the kid at the fast food place gives you the senior discount before you ask. Just hit 62. And if they question if you are a senior citizen you are so impressed by your youthful look you pay full price. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 31, 2009, at 5:05 AM, Jim French wrote: > Rubbish, Kerry - just look at Dave! Now THAT's old. > > Happy birthday for yesterday! > > Jim & Dolly > > > Kerry wrote: >> I was 60 yesterday so I think old age is now with me :-(( >> >> Kerry >> >> >> > > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Tue Mar 31 15:02:27 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:02:27 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: <619E1434CB8F483BABF51F2C1268820C@KerryPC> References: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> <49D1DCF4.1020208@insulate.co.uk> <619E1434CB8F483BABF51F2C1268820C@KerryPC> Message-ID: <20090331220225.BE28931863D@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Kerry only because we are good pals I must let you in a secrete, We have some fellow engine collectors who very much take grate pride & enjoy with their VINTAGE (OLD) stationary engines built in the 40's !!! Sorry to all you OLD Codgers out there but it looks like the numbers are against you! :-) PS: just remember; when you feel like that older than you hunk of iron is getting a bit much for you, let me (a much younger collector) know, I can help you get it out the way At 09:43 PM 31/03/2009, you wrote: >Ain't that the truth > > > > Rubbish, Kerry - just look at Dave! Now THAT's old. > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ozengine at yahoo.com.au Tue Mar 31 20:43:25 2009 From: ozengine at yahoo.com.au (Graham Harris) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] 60 Message-ID: <834171.88111.qm@web32208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Shit Kerry, I'm 55 this month and I thought that was old. Happy birthday for yesterday, old timer. Graham Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:14:22 +1100 From: "Kerry" Subject: Re: [SEL] Parallel Universe? I was 60 yesterday so I think old age is now with me :-(( Kerry The new Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7: Faster, Safer, Easier. From jopeter at omninet.net.au Sun Mar 1 02:55:35 2009 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:55:35 +0900 Subject: [SEL] re Pioneer Gen-E-Motor Message-ID: <89BE6DAD3A58481FB17AC9F5F706108E@acer8ff47bfe9a> THanks Peter ,and Jerry, mine is a 15 v, 20 amp ,300 watt .....model BD-12 BDC I dont think I will ever get a Briggs N but fitting the Mk 10 Villiers will be interesting. From plowe at exemail.com.au Sun Mar 1 03:30:20 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:30:20 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Ebay question for US collectors MEA Magneto Message-ID: Hi all I have a rare MEA four (4) cylinder magneto, the same type use on the Wright Bros first flight engine I want to sell. I want to sell it on US Ebay. Do I just log into Ebay.com to do this or can I tick a box somewhere in Ebay.com.au?? http://www.wrightexperience.com/artifact/V420.htm You can see the mag on the back left side of the engine.. If I sell it here in Oz and overseas buyers do not tick the International box they might not see it. This thing sure throws a very mean spark. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From jerrye at databak.co.za Sun Mar 1 10:43:27 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:43:27 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Pioneer Gen-E-Motor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090301202555.02179008@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 07:20:37 +0900 >From: "peter ogborne" >Subject: Re: [SEL] Pioneer Gen-E-Motor > >Thanks Jerry, a picture of the Briggs engine would be great .It would help >me in my search for one....maybe I'll be lucky . I will press ahead with the >Villiers conversion anyway .It would not be the first US /Pom marriage. Hi Peter, My Briggs NP is stripped and in a box at present (waiting for parts) but there is a pic and information about halfway down this page: (Mine is not a kickstart version as per this pic - rope start or, when coupled to the genny, electric start.) The Anglo-American thing should look good though. The Briggs was pretty common in the US but maybe you will battle in Aus. When I got mine the carb was missing but an American friend found me a complete (albeit very rusty) engine at Portland 2 years ago for US$ 5.00 - he sent me the carb and a few small bits I needed and kept the rest for spares. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jopeter at omninet.net.au Sun Mar 1 14:36:15 2009 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:36:15 +0900 Subject: [SEL] Pioneer Gen-E-Motor References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090301202555.02179008@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Thanks Jerry .....very difficult to find that model Briggs .I was interested to read through the list and see an engine that was derived from the Smiths Motor Wheel . I have a SMW ,not yet restored but as I now belong to a Vintage M/C club I will make an effort to get it going.....should make an interesting entry in the local hill climb! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Evans" To: Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:43 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Pioneer Gen-E-Motor > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 07:20:37 +0900 >>From: "peter ogborne" >>Subject: Re: [SEL] Pioneer Gen-E-Motor >> >>Thanks Jerry, a picture of the Briggs engine would be great .It would help >>me in my search for one....maybe I'll be lucky . I will press ahead with >>the >>Villiers conversion anyway .It would not be the first US /Pom marriage. > > Hi Peter, > My Briggs NP is stripped and in a box at present (waiting for > parts) but there is a pic and information about halfway down this page: > > (Mine is not a kickstart version as per this pic - rope start or, when > coupled to the genny, electric start.) > The Anglo-American thing should look good though. > The Briggs was pretty common in the US but maybe you will battle > in Aus. When I got mine the carb was missing but an American friend found > me a complete (albeit very rusty) engine at Portland 2 years ago for US$ > 5.00 - he sent me the carb and a few small bits I needed and kept the rest > for spares. > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 1 17:20:45 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:20:45 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? Message-ID: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL> Looking for someone that knows how to sanitize some old plastic barrels that once contained acetone. Thanks, Paul From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 1 18:09:16 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:09:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] Off Old Iron Message-ID: <471213.77807.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks, Bob.I could probably spend a couple days watching all his videos. Alan in Michigan --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Bob W7AVK wrote: From: Bob W7AVK Subject: [SEL] Off Old Iron To: "The SEL email discussion list" , stationary-engine at oldengine.org Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 9:02 AM Good Day - Interested in CNC or new things, check this. **Presented by Jay Leno.? ? ** ******_http://widgets.nbc.com/o/47f1317f105123ad/49930a9fc57c735f/47fe70d4555df05a/9b5b999b/-cpid/ba4377d3bfd6c81 _** Regards, Bob R. WA USA **__****__********** _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Jim at hardmanfamily.net Sun Mar 1 18:13:08 2009 From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net (Jim Hardman) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:13:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? In-Reply-To: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL> References: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL> Message-ID: <04E552BBBA0B4243B521B43393AA9107@JamesDesktop> Paul, acetone is highly soluble in water. Hose the drums out and wash with soap & water if necessary. Dry wih air, perhaps using an old vacuum cleaner. Jim in Vermont ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:20 PM Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? > Looking for someone that knows how to sanitize some old plastic barrels > that once contained acetone. > > Thanks, > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 1 18:42:51 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:42:51 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? References: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL> <04E552BBBA0B4243B521B43393AA9107@JamesDesktop> Message-ID: <8292ABB6142B42768E11AFC4D5E08295@PAUL> Jim the man that had these said that he had water in them and he had them for about nine years. Do you think washing them out good with soap and water and then maybe using a 10% bleach solution to wash them and then rinse them thoroughly they would be OK for collecting rain water in for my backyard garden? Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hardman" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? > Paul, acetone is highly soluble in water. Hose the drums out and wash > with > soap & water if necessary. Dry wih air, perhaps using an old vacuum > cleaner. > > Jim in Vermont > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:20 PM > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? > > >> Looking for someone that knows how to sanitize some old plastic barrels >> that once contained acetone. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From peter at loud-n-clear.net Sun Mar 1 23:25:18 2009 From: peter at loud-n-clear.net (Peter Scales) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:25:18 -0000 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? In-Reply-To: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL> References: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL> Message-ID: <03ed01c99b08$0a581c40$8335c53e@doc> If acetone was all they contained, then a wash with water and a blow-dry with air will do it. Acetone is very volatile (and inflammable!) so best to do it out-of-doors and not to use a hair-dryer :-) As far as I know, acetone hasn't got any particularly unpleasant characteristics (it's a major component of nail varnish remover) so leaving a small amount in the barrel should only result in a strong smell. All the best Pete -- Peter Scales > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of > paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > Sent: 02 March 2009 01:21 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? > > Looking for someone that knows how to sanitize some old > plastic barrels that once contained acetone. > > Thanks, > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Mar 2 02:29:33 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:29:33 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Can anyone identify this mower Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090302122632.00bcb6f8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi All, I've put a page here; with a few pics of a small walk behind sickle bar mower. Please have a look and see if you can identify it for me. Thanks in advance Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Mar 2 03:18:41 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:18:41 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Can anyone identify this mower Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090302131019.00c2b520@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Further to my previous post: I did a bit of Googling and think it may have started off life as an older "Jari" from: made in the USA. Does anyone have parts lists or manuals please? Thanks Jerry Hi All, I've put a page here; with a few pics of a small walk behind sickle bar mower. Please have a look and see if you can identify it for me. Thanks in advance Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 2 03:43:41 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:43:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? Message-ID: <487700.7526.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Paul,After nine years can you still smell Acetone????It seems to me that your soap and water then bleach water and a rinse should clean them out very good. Alan in Michigan --- On Sun, 3/1/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 9:42 PM Jim the man that had these said that he had water in them and he had them for about nine years. Do you think washing them out good with soap and water and then maybe using a 10% bleach solution to wash them and then rinse them thoroughly they would be OK for collecting rain water in for my backyard garden? Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hardman" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? > Paul, acetone is highly soluble in water.? Hose the drums out and wash > with > soap & water if necessary.? Dry wih air, perhaps using an old vacuum > cleaner. > > Jim in Vermont > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:20 PM > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? > > >> Looking for someone that knows how to sanitize some old plastic barrels >> that once contained acetone. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul From Jim at hardmanfamily.net Mon Mar 2 05:21:49 2009 From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net (Jim Hardman) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:21:49 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? In-Reply-To: <03ed01c99b08$0a581c40$8335c53e@doc> References: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL> <03ed01c99b08$0a581c40$8335c53e@doc> Message-ID: <24EDF35806AF44BCAA6A9675528F844C@JamesDesktop> Paul, the real question about any residual solvent is whether or not it was repackaged. Commercial solvents, after use and contamination, are normally shipped to disposal centers where they are incinerated. The costs are high and sometimes, drums "get lost" and are found elsewhere a long time later. If your drums or containers contained straight acetone which was emptied out in the manufacture of nail polish or lacquer thinner, your drums are uncontaminated and a water wash will carry any residual acetone away. If, after a water wash, there is still "stuff" in the drums, you have drums which held recycled solvent and who knows what might be in there. Try the water wash. If the drums come out clean, your job is done and the drums will be fine for collecting rain water. Acetone is so volatile that any trace amounts will evaporate with initail drying. Peter's comments below are correct. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Scales" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 2:25 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? > If acetone was all they contained, then a wash with water and a blow-dry > with air will do it. Acetone is very volatile (and inflammable!) so best > to > do it out-of-doors and not to use a hair-dryer :-) As far as I know, > acetone hasn't got any particularly unpleasant characteristics (it's a > major > component of nail varnish remover) so leaving a small amount in the barrel > should only result in a strong smell. > > All the best > > Pete > -- > Peter Scales > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of >> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >> Sent: 02 March 2009 01:21 >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? >> >> Looking for someone that knows how to sanitize some old >> plastic barrels that once contained acetone. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Mar 2 13:58:24 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:58:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? In-Reply-To: <8292ABB6142B42768E11AFC4D5E08295@PAUL> References: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL> <04E552BBBA0B4243B521B43393AA9107@JamesDesktop> <8292ABB6142B42768E11AFC4D5E08295@PAUL> Message-ID: <7e260c8de68f28d1def2966d8a713868.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Paul, Let me make sure that I understand. You're concerned about the trace residual chemical that may still be on the inside of these barrels after they have been filled with water for nine years? Moreover, you're concerned about what may be still left and manages to leach into the rainwater you'll collect in the barrels. But, not really worried about what gets into THAT water, but really worried about what manages to percolate down to the root zone of plants you have growing in your backyard garden? And REALLY not worried about that either, but about the tiny fraction that makes it up into the plant and gets incorporated into the part that you'll eat? Is that a fair summation? Man, if I were you, I think that you should spend your time worrying about the REALLY high probability events; maybe like having a large meteorite squish you like a bug while you're spreading rainwater on your garden. See ya, Arnie PS - I think the toxicity of the rainwater BEFORE it gets to your rain barrels is a much greater concern. You should probably take some samples to the lab and have it tested for lead and mercury before putting it on your garden. On Sun, March 1, 2009 9:42 pm, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: > Jim the man that had these said that he had water in them and he had them > for about nine years. Do you think washing them out good with soap and water > and then maybe using a 10% bleach solution to wash them and then rinse them > thoroughly they would be OK for collecting rain water in for my backyard > garden? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 2 16:29:48 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:29:48 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? References: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL><04E552BBBA0B4243B521B43393AA9107@JamesDesktop><8292ABB6142B42768E11AFC4D5E08295@PAUL> <7e260c8de68f28d1def2966d8a713868.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Darn it Arnie, now you have given me something else to worry about, I never gave a runaway meteorite a thought. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Fero" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? > Paul, > > Let me make sure that I understand. You're concerned about the trace > residual > chemical that may still be on the inside of these barrels after they have > been > filled with water for nine years? > > Moreover, you're concerned about what may be still left and manages to > leach into > the rainwater you'll collect in the barrels. > > But, not really worried about what gets into THAT water, but really > worried about > what manages to percolate down to the root zone of plants you have growing > in your > backyard garden? > > And REALLY not worried about that either, but about the tiny fraction that > makes it > up into the plant and gets incorporated into the part that you'll eat? > > From falcon at telenet.net Mon Mar 2 17:59:50 2009 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:59:50 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? In-Reply-To: References: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL><04E552BBBA0B4243B521B43393AA9107@JamesDesktop><8292ABB6142B42768E11AFC4D5E08295@PAUL> <7e260c8de68f28d1def2966d8a713868.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <49AC8F16.1040005@telenet.net> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: > Darn it Arnie, now you have given me something else to worry about, I never > gave a runaway meteorite a thought. > > Paul One just missed the Earth by 40K miles http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,503164,00.html Wait! Did you hear that whooshing sound? A small asteroid buzzed by Earth Monday, though only real astronomy geeks in the Pacific would have noticed. The rock, estimated to be no more than 200 feet wide, zoomed past our planet at an altitude of 40,000 miles at 1:44 p.m. universal time ? or 8:44 EST. Dubbed 2009 DD45, it was discovered only on Friday by Australian astronomers. Forty thousand miles may sound like a lot, but it's only about one-seventh of the way to the moon, and less than twice as far out as many telecommunications satellites. Had 2009 DD45 hit the Earth, it would have exploded on or near the surface with the force of a large nuclear blast ? not very reassuring when you consider humanity had only about three days' notice. According to the Australian news Web site Crikey, the asteroid is likely to be drawn in by Earth's gravity, meaning it may return for many more near misses in the future. -- Steve From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 2 18:27:31 2009 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:27:31 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? References: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL><04E552BBBA0B4243B521B43393AA9107@JamesDesktop><8292ABB6142B42768E11AFC4D5E08295@PAUL> <7e260c8de68f28d1def2966d8a713868.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <49AC8F16.1040005@telenet.net> Message-ID: <002301c99ba7$9b671e80$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> One just missed the Earth by 40K miles ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// Andromeda is not going to miss ! and boy , is that gonna leave a mark ! http://www.kahl.net/astro/graphics/hubble_twospirals.jpg From jdohagan at comcast.net Mon Mar 2 19:01:01 2009 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:01:01 -0800 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? In-Reply-To: <002301c99ba7$9b671e80$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> Message-ID: <20090303030100.89F434C8D3F@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Chuck, Is it going to hit before the auction in Hart Tx on the 26-28 of march? Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Balyeat Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 6:28 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? One just missed the Earth by 40K miles ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// Andromeda is not going to miss ! and boy , is that gonna leave a mark ! http://www.kahl.net/astro/graphics/hubble_twospirals.jpg _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Mon Mar 2 20:05:45 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:05:45 -0800 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? In-Reply-To: <002301c99ba7$9b671e80$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> References: <0F7D633542F84B309FBEF9115148E154@PAUL><04E552BBBA0B4243B521B43393AA9107@JamesDesktop><8292ABB6142B42768E11AFC4D5E08295@PAUL> <7e260c8de68f28d1def2966d8a713868.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <49AC8F16.1040005@telenet.net> <002301c99ba7$9b671e80$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> Message-ID: <6A2469DA-80B8-4859-91B9-6A47C71BC243@rustyiron.com> > > Andromeda is not going to miss ! and boy , is that gonna leave a > mark ! > > http://www.kahl.net/astro/graphics/hubble_twospirals.jpg Hey, Chuck. Give me a call the day before they collide, so I'll know to stay up and get a good look. From rob at rustyiron.com Mon Mar 2 20:08:18 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:08:18 -0800 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? In-Reply-To: <20090303030100.89F434C8D3F@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> References: <20090303030100.89F434C8D3F@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <197B3EBD-D19E-49C5-9801-125C0EA932F6@rustyiron.com> On Mar 2, 2009, at 7:01 PM, Jim O'Hagan wrote: > Chuck, Is it going to hit before the auction in Hart Tx on the 26-28 > of > march? Heya, Jimmy. The astrophysicists can't agree if it will be March 28 or 29. Just be be safe, better wear your hat in case any of the debris rains down on Hart. From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Mar 3 07:41:28 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:41:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? In-Reply-To: <20090303030100.89F434C8D3F@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> References: <20090303030100.89F434C8D3F@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <08bc4911f4828b7c1905de34004bc743.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Now THAT'S a practical question!! 8-))) On Mon, March 2, 2009 10:01 pm, Jim O'Hagan wrote: > Chuck, Is it going to hit before the auction in Hart Tx on the 26-28 of > march? > > ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > Andromeda is not going to miss ! and boy , is that gonna leave a mark ! > http://www.kahl.net/astro/graphics/hubble_twospirals.jpg -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Mar 3 13:49:02 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:49:02 +1100 Subject: [SEL] What engine is it ??? reply from seller Message-ID: I emailed the guy selling this item and he knows nothing about it. It is Ebay items 280317040799 copy and paste this number into Ebay search bar. Here is his reply below. Peter Dear sir , there are no marking on it what I can see . There is a cab which is a motor mower which was with it when I got it. Also a pipe which looks like it belongs to the exhaust side of the motor. It also has a base plate below the top water tank and above the sump. Hope this helps cheers Donald. From jdohagan at comcast.net Tue Mar 3 15:51:46 2009 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:51:46 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Nixon auction in Hart Tx. Message-ID: <20090303235145.DADD9444850@in04.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Hi, Anyone going to the Armstrong auction in hart Tx. on March 26-28 th. If your driving to it and might have some extra space coming back toward the west coast ,I'd like to talk to you about hauling an engine for me MAYBE .Any location between Hart and San Francisco will help..Thanks Jimmy O'Hagan,415 892 0236 Jim O'Hagan From christison at coastalnet.com Tue Mar 3 15:54:55 2009 From: christison at coastalnet.com (Ken Christison) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:54:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Neat catalogue find. Message-ID: <49ADC34F.5070209@coastalnet.com> While browsing google books for information on a shingle mill, I ran across a very nice catalog which can be downloaded free. Not a lot of engine reference, but it does have several pages of Foos engines. The catalog is from 1911 and is for a company named Cameron and Barkley and described as: CAMERON & BARKLEY COMPANY, MACHINERY AND SUPPLIES FOR SAW MILLS, PHOSPHATE MINES, FERTILIZER FACTORIES, OIL MILLS, RAILROADS, CONTRACTORS, MACHINISTS, PLUMBERS, ETC. Simply go to google books, in search box type in: "Machinery and Supplies for Saw Mills" Look for the Cameron and Barkley listing with the full view. It takes a while if you are on dial-up like myself, but it is well worth the time. Take care. Ken From rotigel at me.com Tue Mar 3 18:50:10 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:50:10 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T. O.T. - any chemist on the List? In-Reply-To: <08bc4911f4828b7c1905de34004bc743.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <20090303030100.89F434C8D3F@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> <08bc4911f4828b7c1905de34004bc743.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <6129BF9F-8997-433B-9E65-A13525ADFE3A@me.com> I concur Arnie, but why does it take a chemist to answer it? Dave On Mar 3, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Now THAT'S a practical question!! 8-))) > > On Mon, March 2, 2009 10:01 pm, Jim O'Hagan wrote: >> Chuck, Is it going to hit before the auction in Hart Tx on the >> 26-28 of >> march? >> >> ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// >> >> Andromeda is not going to miss ! and boy , is that gonna leave a >> mark ! >> http://www.kahl.net/astro/graphics/hubble_twospirals.jpg > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jlb94 at juno.com Tue Mar 3 20:34:29 2009 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:34:29 -0500 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: <20090303.233523.1456.2.jlb94> Hi List. There is someone out there that has used Audacity to record music. I have downloaded Audacity and have NO IDEA how to use it. Can anyone help me ? Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ (_o_) "There is more to life than increasing its speed." ____________________________________________________________ Click here to save cash and find low rates on auto loans. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLaW1AIJ2xNp3UN5mp8qltaxY2K6qpJfumq4kl3R4OZhodS4hjxVu/ From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Mar 4 03:11:31 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:11:31 +1100 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) References: <20090303.233523.1456.2.jlb94> Message-ID: <52DC97B65D134D1B8C32F618975F649D@peterlowe> Great program, use it all the time, what do you want to know. Regards Peter > Hi List. > > There is someone out there that has used Audacity to record music. > > I have downloaded Audacity and have NO IDEA how to use it. > > Can anyone help me ? > > Joe "Pip" Betz said that. > jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz > ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz > \/)"(\/ > (_o_) "There is more to life than increasing its speed." > ____________________________________________________________ > Click here to save cash and find low rates on auto loans. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLaW1AIJ2xNp3UN5mp8qltaxY2K6qpJfumq4kl3R4OZhodS4hjxVu/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Frank at lbpinc.com Thu Mar 5 14:15:53 2009 From: Frank at lbpinc.com (Frank DeWitt) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:15:53 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Home made "JD" engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090305221734.06289598D7@gw1.nlenet.net> I ran across this amazing model of a 2 cyl John Deere It is a air engine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5Hcl9L9wlY&eurl=http://www.homemodelenginemachinist.com/index.php?topic=1985.45 Here is the whole story http://www.homemodelenginemachinist.com/index.php?topic=1985.0 Frank +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ HONOR GOD SERVE PEOPLE DEVELOP EXCELLENCE GROW PROFITABLE FOLLOWING BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES Frank DeWitt | mailto:frank at lbpinc.com Mechanical Design | Phone: 585 624 3052 LBP INC. | Fax 585 624 1038 2365 Cox Rd. | N 42.9130 W 77.5164| Bloomfield NY 14469 |Web http://www.lbpinc.com/ From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Thu Mar 5 15:50:29 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick M Livingstone) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:50:29 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Austral Shipping figures Message-ID: <9B67D16B15F84FD7B38BFAEFF8E916E3@PATRICK> As ever, I am plowing through the data I have on the sideshaft Australs and slowly getting it all into the computer for easy retrieval. Now that I have most of the NSW & QLD shipping records into the computer I have the totals for the various sizes shipped to those states. I have put the info on my site at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austreg/australnswqldtotals.html It is interesting to note the number of big engines shipped to NSW. As well as the large number of 3hp engines shipped to Qld. I can feel another article for TOMM coming... Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From lfevans at pacbell.net Thu Mar 5 16:00:58 2009 From: lfevans at pacbell.net (Larry Evans) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:00:58 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Worthington Catalog Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20090305155958.037cb238@pop.att.yahoo.com> Hi...... For anyone interested I've just put a page on my web site with high resolution scans of a 1921 Worthington catalog dealing primarily with their kerosene engines. The pages print out real nice. This catalog is interesting in that there are several nice exploded views and quite a bit of text explaining their design philosophy. Feel free to download anything you are interested in for personal use. You can find it at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/worthcat/ Regards, Larry Evans Larry Evans MailTo:LFEVANS at pacbell.net http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ From jnyost at yahoo.com Thu Mar 5 16:13:07 2009 From: jnyost at yahoo.com (James Yost) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:13:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] Estero Florida Show Message-ID: <497543.87260.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ? Hey SEL ? It's been long time since I have written or even had much time to be on the SEL. ? My wife and I are going to be in Florida while the Florida Flywheelers Antique Engine Show is going on in Estero. ? We will be in Ft. Lauderdale then and I was just wondering how many engines are at this show and if it has swap/flea market etc. ? Any info would be much appreciated. ? Thanks, Jim ? Jim and Janna Yost Utica, Ohio USA jnyost at yahoo.com From edstoller at earthlink.net Thu Mar 5 16:55:58 2009 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 19:55:58 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Home made "JD" engine References: <20090305221734.06289598D7@gw1.nlenet.net> Message-ID: <4002D0EF78694C009DDF44C2D7821DA3@Ed> Thanks Frank, I hope to get back to my little Johnny Popper made from two Briggs mode 6 s. Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank DeWitt" To: Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:15 PM Subject: [SEL] Home made "JD" engine >I ran across this amazing model of a 2 cyl John Deere It is a air engine. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5Hcl9L9wlY&eurl=http://www.homemodelenginemachinist.com/index.php?topic=1985.45 > > Here is the whole story > http://www.homemodelenginemachinist.com/index.php?topic=1985.0 > > Frank > > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > HONOR GOD > SERVE PEOPLE > DEVELOP EXCELLENCE > GROW PROFITABLE > FOLLOWING BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES > > Frank DeWitt | mailto:frank at lbpinc.com > Mechanical Design | Phone: 585 624 3052 > LBP INC. | Fax 585 624 1038 > 2365 Cox Rd. | N 42.9130 W > 77.5164| > Bloomfield NY 14469 |Web http://www.lbpinc.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Mar 5 18:50:46 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:50:46 +1100 Subject: [SEL] gasket thickness advice Message-ID: <6B27D5B45130421598C3168C9E522110@loungeroom> Hi all Can some of you learned members please tell me the correct gasket thickness for the gasket on the removable main bearing side of my R&V vertical. The bearing plate that houses one of the main bearings come off to remove the crankshaft. 1/64", 1/32", 1/16"????? I am getting all my measurents ready to pour my main bearings and then machine them to the correct tollerances. Thanks Peter, Oz From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Mar 5 21:32:24 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:32:24 +1100 Subject: [SEL] bearing clearances Message-ID: <1326C7E75BE348CEAF9467D314DAD5F7@loungeroom> Hi All I know we have spoken about this before, but I did not log the answers. I am making two (2) cylindrical one piece bearings, 4.500" long, crankshaft diameter 1.450", how many thousanths of an inch clearance should I allow for when boring out the bearing to take the crankshaft? I have brand new crank arms and want a nice snug fit with no play, but not too tight so it will seize, the correct clearance in other words. Lubrication on this early model is grease. Also does anyone in Oz know of a source for 9/16" square steel bar. The early R&V's had all square head bolts and will have to make all new ones, NO they are not set screws etc etc etc, we have been there. These bolt are NO longer available, will post that info to my web site tonight. Regards Peter, Oz From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Fri Mar 6 03:05:32 2009 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:05:32 +0900 Subject: [SEL] bearing clearances In-Reply-To: <1326C7E75BE348CEAF9467D314DAD5F7@loungeroom> References: <1326C7E75BE348CEAF9467D314DAD5F7@loungeroom> Message-ID: <49B1037C.1070503@optusnet.com.au> Peter Lowe wrote: > Hi All > > I know we have spoken about this before, but I did not log the answers. > > I am making two (2) cylindrical one piece bearings, 4.500" long, crankshaft diameter 1.450", how many thousanths of an inch clearance should I allow for when boring out the bearing to take the crankshaft? I have brand new crank arms and want a nice snug fit with no play, but not too tight so it will seize, the correct clearance in other words. Lubrication on this early model is grease. > > Also does anyone in Oz know of a source for 9/16" square steel bar. The early R&V's had all square head bolts and will have to make all new ones, NO they are not set screws etc etc etc, we have been there. These bolt are NO longer available, will post that info to my web site tonight. > > Regards > Peter, Oz > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Peter, 9/16" square key steel is fairly readily available, if you can't find anything cheaper, and no, is is not too hard. Jack From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Fri Mar 6 03:25:46 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:25:46 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Austral register totals Message-ID: Now that I have put enough information into the databases I am starting to get info back out easily. Of interest is the total numbers, by horsepower, on the register: Count of HP HP Total 3 141 3.5 20 4 181 4.5 7 5 128 5.5 34 6 210 6.5 27 7 53 7.5 11 8 105 8.5 22 8.8 1 9 5 9.5 2 10 15 10.5 1 11 75 12 3 15 4 16 17 20 18 25 2 26 1 32 1 ? 78 Total 1162 Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From jbcast at charter.net Fri Mar 6 04:02:11 2009 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 4:02:11 -0800 Subject: [SEL] bearing clearances In-Reply-To: <1326C7E75BE348CEAF9467D314DAD5F7@loungeroom> Message-ID: <20090306070211.E00I0.2038448.root@mp17> ---- Peter Lowe wrote: > Hi All > > I know we have spoken about this before, but I did not log the answers. > > I am making two (2) cylindrical one piece bearings, 4.500" long, crankshaft diameter 1.450", how many thousanths of an inch clearance should I allow for when boring out the bearing to take the crankshaft? I have brand new crank arms and want a nice snug fit with no play, but not too tight so it will seize, the correct clearance in other words. Lubrication on this early model is grease. > > Also does anyone in Oz know of a source for 9/16" square steel bar. The early R&V's had all square head bolts and will have to make all new ones, NO they are not set screws etc etc etc, we have been there. These bolt are NO longer available, will post that info to my web site tonight. > > Regards > Peter, Oz > I would go for .002" on the bearings but things may change if alignment is not perfect. Is this a split bearing with a cap and shims or is it installed in one piece? 14MM is pretty close to 9/16", it would work for your bolts. J.B. Castagnos From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Mar 6 04:37:59 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 07:37:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] bearing clearances Message-ID: G'day Peter, >> Also does anyone in Oz know of a source for 9/16" square steel bar. The early >> R&V's had all square head bolts and will have to make all new ones, NO they are >> not set screws etc etc etc, we have been there. These bolt are NO longer >> available, will post that info to my web site tonight. If you're looking for a project, then make your own. But if you just want to get your R&V restored, why not buy plain-finish square head bolts? McMaster-Carr lists 'em in sizes from 1/4"-20 TPI up to 1"-8 TPI and lengths from 3/4" to 12". I use 'em all the time on engine cart projects. They also have matching square nuts. If you need 9/16"-square heads, that would be a 3/8"-16 TPI bolt available in 8 lengths from 1" to 3-1/2". Since Mc-M is a catalog house, I'd guss that there are a bunch of folks who make 'em. Let me know if you'd like for me to order you some and ship 'em to ya. See ya, Arnie PS - They also carry 9/16" plain steel square stock in 24", 36", and 72" lengths if you'd REALLY rather make your own. 8-)) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From jd.kirkes at verizon.net Fri Mar 6 06:34:08 2009 From: jd.kirkes at verizon.net (Jim Kirkes) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:34:08 -0800 Subject: [SEL] bearing clearances References: <1326C7E75BE348CEAF9467D314DAD5F7@loungeroom> Message-ID: Hi Peter, 1 opr 2 thousands ought to work ok. I would make the bolts out of round stock and mill the head square. Finding 9/16 will be tough and when you do it will be expensive. Jim Jim and Diane Kirkes Hemet, California U.S.A. jd.kirkes at verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Lowe To: ATIS ; oldengine.org Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:32 PM Subject: bearing clearances Hi All I know we have spoken about this before, but I did not log the answers. I am making two (2) cylindrical one piece bearings, 4.500" long, crankshaft diameter 1.450", how many thousanths of an inch clearance should I allow for when boring out the bearing to take the crankshaft? I have brand new crank arms and want a nice snug fit with no play, but not too tight so it will seize, the correct clearance in other words. Lubrication on this early model is grease. Also does anyone in Oz know of a source for 9/16" square steel bar. The early R&V's had all square head bolts and will have to make all new ones, NO they are not set screws etc etc etc, we have been there. These bolt are NO longer available, will post that info to my web site tonight. Regards Peter, Oz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1986 - Release Date: 03/05/09 19:32:00 From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Mar 6 07:05:51 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:05:51 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back In-Reply-To: <9B67D16B15F84FD7B38BFAEFF8E916E3@PATRICK> References: <9B67D16B15F84FD7B38BFAEFF8E916E3@PATRICK> Message-ID: <20090306150547.5916F3C0794@mail02.wcoil.com> I am starting to feel like the computer Gods are picking on me. I have lost two hard drives and all the data on them in the last two months. Both were mechanical failures of the drive, not any virus as far as what the repairman says. The first drive only lost a weeks worth of data for me. This time I lost 2 months of data. I still have the old drive from my old computer that I supposedly upgraded from so I was able to at least get what I had up till the end of December 2008. But all of my emails and documents since then are locked on the dead drive. One minute it was working fine the next minute the computer would just not recognize the drive and it was making a clicking noise. QUESTION, does anyone have the ability to swap the disks from one drive to the next? I am told that the companies that does this is way expensive. And from looking at the internals of another dead hard drive and seeing how they are asembled its definately a project beyond my knowledge, skills and tools. Mark Mark Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 From George_Best at adp.com Fri Mar 6 07:12:09 2009 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:12:09 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Austral register totals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590A26616A@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Arnie, How about posting the below information from your Czech engine register? ;-) Shouldn't take too much effort as I'm sure you'd be dealing with much smaller numbers :-) Oh... on our trip we're planning on visiting the collector I bought my green Lorenz from. I've never been to his place but was told he has some early Czech engines with vertical governors. See ya ;-) George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 3:26 AM To: stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org; The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Austral register totals Now that I have put enough information into the databases I am starting to get info back out easily. Of interest is the total numbers, by horsepower, on the register: Count of HP HP Total 3 141 3.5 20 4 181 4.5 7 5 128 5.5 34 6 210 6.5 27 7 53 7.5 11 8 105 8.5 22 8.8 1 9 5 9.5 2 10 15 10.5 1 11 75 12 3 15 4 16 17 20 18 25 2 26 1 32 1 ? 78 Total 1162 Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From JMGRIVNA at aol.com Fri Mar 6 07:29:12 2009 From: JMGRIVNA at aol.com (JMGRIVNA at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:29:12 EST Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back Message-ID: Mark, search a website called "cnet". If I recall they did an article on just such a procedure a couple of months ago and tested some fairly inexpensive software for the process. I also heard once that putting the drive in your freezer overnight sometimes works but I've never tried it. PS, thanks for the good parts service in the past. Still looking for a Maytag Upright with Magneto manual. Mike ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219957551x1201325337/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hm pgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From don.h at wcoil.com Fri Mar 6 07:37:03 2009 From: don.h at wcoil.com (Don Heringhaus) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:37:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back In-Reply-To: <20090306150547.5916F3C0794@mail02.wcoil.com> References: <9B67D16B15F84FD7B38BFAEFF8E916E3@PATRICK> <20090306150547.5916F3C0794@mail02.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Heck if you can fix a Maytag you ought to be able to fix a hard drive,,Have you taken any apart ?? There just a couple platters in there ( Disks) about like a cd.I would thick the only thing you would have to very careful is with the arm mech that travels back and forth there is not a lot of clearance there.I would try to fix it for you but right now I,m trying to move my shop out of the high water area .Iv taken a lot of drives apart for the nice magnets in them but then I wasn't to careful on how I smashed things ha ha I think if you take one apart you will see there is not much to them ( again just like changing points on a Maytag. do you no of anybody looking for a nice mill/drill its heavy not a Harbor Frt I got it from EDCO in lima a few yrs ago Don in Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Shulaw" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:05 AM Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back >I am starting to feel like the computer Gods are picking on me. I > have lost two hard drives and all the data on them in the last two > months. Both were mechanical failures of the drive, not any virus as > far as what the repairman says. > The first drive only lost a weeks worth of data for me. This time I > lost 2 months of data. I still have the old drive from my old > computer that I supposedly upgraded from so I was able to at least > get what I had up till the end of December 2008. But all of my emails > and documents since then are locked on the dead drive. One minute it > was working fine the next minute the computer would just not > recognize the drive and it was making a clicking noise. > QUESTION, does anyone have the ability to swap the disks from one > drive to the next? I am told that the companies that does this is way > expensive. And from looking at the internals of another dead hard > drive and seeing how they are asembled its definately a project > beyond my knowledge, skills and tools. Mark > > > > > Mark Shulaw > Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From JMGRIVNA at aol.com Fri Mar 6 07:41:56 2009 From: JMGRIVNA at aol.com (JMGRIVNA at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:41:56 EST Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back Message-ID: Mark, try "zdnet" as well for information. Mike ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219957551x1201325337/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hm pgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From jlb94 at juno.com Fri Mar 6 08:38:32 2009 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:38:32 -0500 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: <20090306.113832.1484.0.jlb94> Great program, use it all the time, what do you want to know. = = = = = = = = = = Hi Peter, Thanks for the comeback. I am totally confused. I installed Audacity and all I seem to be able to get is the Audacity window once I open the program. I can't seem to get anything to record. Or - I can't get any sound into the program. On the Mixer Toolbar, there are two sliders. The Left for output and the right for input. Then there is a little window to choose the input source. I have nothing in that little window and don't know how to get anything to that little window. Hence, if I try to record anything, I get dead space recording. then I click play and, again, dead space playback. How can I get something to show in the "Input Device Selection" ? I have sound coming in to the computer via the line-in on the back of the midtower. Any help? Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ (_o_) "There is more to life than increasing its speed." ____________________________________________________________ Purify your water with professional water treatment. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTK8PGDaK9TV98EZBVfO1CmWYZ9BHpWdhcdn9WL6kN0CmgW4w7CCeU/ From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Mar 6 08:54:11 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:54:11 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back In-Reply-To: References: <9B67D16B15F84FD7B38BFAEFF8E916E3@PATRICK> <20090306150547.5916F3C0794@mail02.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <20090306165406.6F5191D0CC6@mail04.wcoil.com> HI Don, Yah I kinda though about doing it myself at first till I got a look inside one last night and realized the need for a clean room. Its not like we see on the tv cop shows with some dude sitting at a bench in a open common work area playing swap a disc. They tell me this has to be done in a clean environment, dust free, one speck of dust and it may not read. And if in removing the disc it rubs the read arms either the arm is ruined or the disc is scratched and ruined. Just thought maybe someone on the list might work along these lines and I could beg a big favor. I will keep your Mill-Drill in mind if anyone asks. Make up a flier I can print out on an 8.5 X 11" page and I will post it at Bluffton Aire the Air Compressor shop in Lima. Mark At 10:37 AM 3/6/2009, you wrote: >Heck if you can fix a Maytag you ought to be able to fix a hard drive,,Have >you taken any apart ?? There just a couple platters in there ( Disks) about >like a cd.I would thick the only thing you would have to very careful is >with the arm mech that travels back and forth there is not a lot of >clearance there.I would try to fix it for you but right now I,m trying to >move my shop out of the high water area .Iv taken a lot of drives apart for >the nice magnets in them but then I wasn't to careful on how I smashed >things ha ha >I think if you take one apart you will see there is not much to them ( again >just like changing points on a Maytag. >do you no of anybody looking for a nice mill/drill its heavy not a Harbor >Frt I got it from EDCO in lima a few yrs ago >Don in Ottawa >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Shulaw" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:05 AM >Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back > > > >I am starting to feel like the computer Gods are picking on me. I > > have lost two hard drives and all the data on them in the last two > > months. Both were mechanical failures of the drive, not any virus as > > far as what the repairman says. > > The first drive only lost a weeks worth of data for me. This time I > > lost 2 months of data. I still have the old drive from my old > > computer that I supposedly upgraded from so I was able to at least > > get what I had up till the end of December 2008. But all of my emails > > and documents since then are locked on the dead drive. One minute it > > was working fine the next minute the computer would just not > > recognize the drive and it was making a clicking noise. > > QUESTION, does anyone have the ability to swap the disks from one > > drive to the next? I am told that the companies that does this is way > > expensive. And from looking at the internals of another dead hard > > drive and seeing how they are asembled its definately a project > > beyond my knowledge, skills and tools. Mark > > > > > > > > > > Mark Shulaw > > Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: >03/06/09 07:20:00 Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com 419.358.5206 Home 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 6 10:03:21 2009 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:03:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] bearing clearances In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <499058.94394.qm@web31505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I agree with Jim. I have a set of el cheapo chinese 5C collets and a couple of blocks that they will fit it, make your bolt from round stock, part it off, put it in the collet block and mill the flats in the mill. If you have a collet closer on your lathe, you could use a square collet and square stock, but lining up the square stock in the 4 jaw is a PITA, especially if you have many to make. Here is a link to what I am talking about, lower right hand side of the page: http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INPDFF?PMPAGE=453&PARTPG=INLMK3&PMITEM=891-6016 I have the set of square and hex collet blocks and they are very handy. What size bolts do you need and how many? I could get them and mail them to you if you would like. Later, Joe Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Jim Kirkes wrote: > From: Jim Kirkes > Subject: Re: [SEL] bearing clearances > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org, "ATIS" > Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 8:34 AM > Hi Peter, > > 1 opr 2 thousands ought to work ok. I would make the bolts > out of round stock and mill the head square. Finding 9/16 > will be tough and when you do > it will be expensive. > > Jim > > Jim and Diane Kirkes > Hemet, California U.S.A. > jd.kirkes at verizon.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Peter Lowe > To: ATIS ; oldengine.org > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:32 PM > Subject: bearing clearances > > > Hi All > > I know we have spoken about this before, but I did not > log the answers. > > I am making two (2) cylindrical one piece bearings, > 4.500" long, crankshaft diameter 1.450", how many > thousanths of an inch clearance should I allow for when > boring out the bearing to take the crankshaft? I have brand > new crank arms and want a nice snug fit with no play, but > not too tight so it will seize, the correct clearance in > other words. Lubrication on this early model is grease. > > Also does anyone in Oz know of a source for 9/16" > square steel bar. The early R&V's had all square > head bolts and will have to make all new ones, NO they are > not set screws etc etc etc, we have been there. These bolt > are NO longer available, will post that info to my web site > tonight. > > Regards > Peter, Oz > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1986 - > Release Date: 03/05/09 19:32:00 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Mar 6 10:50:09 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:50:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Lorenz & Benz Register Totals Message-ID: <78e5d675ab7372b9b3a90982a9158cae.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hi George, I'll bet you thought you weren't gonna get a response. 8-)) You are correct, the total numbers (98) of the HIGH QUALITY Lorenz and Benz engines are far smaller than those COMMON Australs; only about one tenth as many known. 8-)) Plus for the Czech engines we totally lack any sort of factory data. Lorenz Engines - 58 total 3-4 hp - 32 4-5 hp - 8 4-6 hp - 2 3 hp - 4 3-3.5 hp - 1 4 hp - 1 Unknown - 9 Benz Engines - 40 total 3-4 hp - 12 3-5 hp - 1 4-5 hp - 13 4-6 hp - 2 5-6 hp - 4 5-7 hp - 1 8-10 hp - 1 3 hp - 1 4 hp - 1 5 hp - 1 Unknown - 3 So if anyone on the lists has a Lorenz or Benz engine (or knows of one), please send me the details (and photos if possible). Vertical governors 'eh? That'll be a first for the Lorenz & Benz register! I do have two early ones that are ignitor fired and one really old diesel Lorenz. I think those are the most odd in the register to date. See ya, Arnie On Fri, March 6, 2009 10:12 am, Best, George wrote: > > How about posting the below information from your Czech engine register? > Shouldn't take too much effort as I'm sure you'd be dealing with much > smaller numbers :-) > > Oh... on our trip we're planning on visiting the collector I bought my > green Lorenz from. I've never been to his place but was told he has > some early Czech engines with vertical governors. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From stevebarr at ameritech.net Fri Mar 6 10:51:56 2009 From: stevebarr at ameritech.net (Steve Barr) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:51:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <334350.37367.qm@web82007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mark I have used the freezer trick in the past....I have a cable setup that connects via USB that I have used. Sometimes it works, other times it doesn't. It all depends on the type of failure. I had a friend who restored my data files from a hard drive for me a few years ago, but it took a month. Steve --- On Fri, 3/6/09, JMGRIVNA at aol.com wrote: > From: JMGRIVNA at aol.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Im Back > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 9:29 AM > Mark, search a website called "cnet". If I recall they did an article on just such a procedure a couple of months ago and tested some fairly inexpensive software for the process. I also heard once that putting the drive in your freezer overnight sometimes works but I've never tried it. > > > Mike From George_Best at adp.com Fri Mar 6 11:00:20 2009 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:00:20 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Lorenz & Benz Register Totals In-Reply-To: <78e5d675ab7372b9b3a90982a9158cae.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <78e5d675ab7372b9b3a90982a9158cae.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590A26686F@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Arnie, Just curious if you could say how many Lorenz and Benz engines are in the U.S.? I'm guessing the majority in your registery are outside the U.S. George Ps... and yes I was surprised you were able to provide the below information so quickly. Good work! -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:50 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Cc: stationary-engine at oldengine.org Subject: Re: [SEL] Lorenz & Benz Register Totals Hi George, I'll bet you thought you weren't gonna get a response. 8-)) You are correct, the total numbers (98) of the HIGH QUALITY Lorenz and Benz engines are far smaller than those COMMON Australs; only about one tenth as many known. 8-)) Plus for the Czech engines we totally lack any sort of factory data. Lorenz Engines - 58 total 3-4 hp - 32 4-5 hp - 8 4-6 hp - 2 3 hp - 4 3-3.5 hp - 1 4 hp - 1 Unknown - 9 Benz Engines - 40 total 3-4 hp - 12 3-5 hp - 1 4-5 hp - 13 4-6 hp - 2 5-6 hp - 4 5-7 hp - 1 8-10 hp - 1 3 hp - 1 4 hp - 1 5 hp - 1 Unknown - 3 So if anyone on the lists has a Lorenz or Benz engine (or knows of one), please send me the details (and photos if possible). Vertical governors 'eh? That'll be a first for the Lorenz & Benz register! I do have two early ones that are ignitor fired and one really old diesel Lorenz. I think those are the most odd in the register to date. See ya, Arnie On Fri, March 6, 2009 10:12 am, Best, George wrote: > > How about posting the below information from your Czech engine register? > Shouldn't take too much effort as I'm sure you'd be dealing with much > smaller numbers :-) > > Oh... on our trip we're planning on visiting the collector I bought my > green Lorenz from. I've never been to his place but was told he has > some early Czech engines with vertical governors. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From Ken.Erman at mastercam.com Fri Mar 6 11:06:43 2009 From: Ken.Erman at mastercam.com (Ken Erman) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:06:43 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back Message-ID: Mark, On the bright side you can use the old disk plates to make wonderful sounding wind chimes. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. CNC Software, Inc. www.mastercam.com ********************************************************************** From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Mar 6 11:27:14 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:27:14 +0200 Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back/HDD recovery In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090306201821.027aeff0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 07:00 PM 06/03/2009, you wrote: >Message: 13 >Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:05:51 -0500 >From: Mark Shulaw >Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back > >I am starting to feel like the computer Gods are picking on me. I >have lost two hard drives and all the data on them in the last two >months. Both were mechanical failures of the drive, not any virus as >far as what the repairman says. >The first drive only lost a weeks worth of data for me. This time I >lost 2 months of data. I still have the old drive from my old >computer that I supposedly upgraded from so I was able to at least >get what I had up till the end of December 2008. But all of my emails >and documents since then are locked on the dead drive. One minute it >was working fine the next minute the computer would just not >recognize the drive and it was making a clicking noise. >QUESTION, does anyone have the ability to swap the disks from one >drive to the next? I am told that the companies that does this is way >expensive. And from looking at the internals of another dead hard >drive and seeing how they are asembled its definately a project >beyond my knowledge, skills and tools. Mark Hi Mark, As you probably know, I only get the SEL digest version and it's just came in. I've read the other posts but will just answer all here. It's not a Maytag - do not attempt any internal stuff without the knowledge or correct equipment which includes a Class 100 Clean room. You are correct about the dust - it can scratch the platters. The heads turn at 7200 RPM in most drives today. The head skims over them and all that keeps it off the platters is the thin "film" of air or "air cushion" created between it and the platters by the speed of the spinning platters. The dust problem is that a bit of dust could get caught between the head and platter and scratch the platter destroying your data permanently. When you switch off your computer these heads automatically "park" in a safe area. (Remember how you had to "park" the hard drive on the old PC's and XT's if you planned to move the computer.) Also the density of todays magnetic media is much higher than in the old drives and "re-aligning" the heads is pretty specialised. I've been doing "data recovery" since 1998 and it is getting more difficult all the time. I do not have a clean room but have an arrangement with someone who does and send all my drives with head crashes there. He gets the thing sorted out for me and then I can do the recovery. If the problem is external ie. on the control board I can sometimes fix this provided spares are available but this often means buying a new hard drive that was made in the same batch and at the same factory as the damaged drive (head changes present similar problems). You can imagine how difficult it is to be that accurate - it's not like going to a spares shop for a new set of plugs!! Someone mentioned "freeze it" - been there done that and had some success with it but that was always on the older hard drives - specifically the Fujitsu drives that gave so much trouble a few years back. Nobody knew for definite why it worked but it did sometimes (not every time). there were 2 schools of thought: i) These drives had a faulty chip that was prone to "shorting out internally" (for want of a better description) and much like an overheated Maytag coil - it would work O.K. but only for a short while when cold. If we got the drive running we would recover everything off the disk as quickly as possible because it would fail again. ii) The second "school of thought" was that this freezing would loosen a stuck part somewhere but I never went with this one. Freezing will not work for your drive if it has clicking noises.The clicking noise you hear is the head trying to initialise and the more you allow this to happen the more difficult will it become to eventually recover the data. (Like an engine - a bearing knock is east to fix if done in time but when left until the rod has gone through the side of the block - not so easy.) My clean room guy charges me approx. ZAR 2000.00 to 2500.00 for these repairs (I can sometimes get him to give me a bit of discount as a personal favour but I cannot make any promises). With our exchange rate being as low as it is this may be a proposition for you as I imagine that similar work would cost a lot in the US. You would still need to courier or post the drive to me. (Our exchange rate is particularly low just now - check it out). I would not charge you for the actual Data recovery once the drive is working (apart from a bit of postage and a few DVD's to copy the data to.) Someone also mentioned software you can download - there is a lot and I could even supply some but this is all for drives that are working correctly - not for mechanically damaged drives. It works if your data on the drive (I'll not go into details here) has become corrupted and your "operating system" such as Windows can no longer read the data on the drive BUT the actual drive HAS to be working correctly for it to do this. Contact me "Off List" if you want to take this further. I must just warn you that I'm about to go to bed soon and will be out for most of the morning tomorrow so do not be alarmed if you do not get an immediate reply. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Mar 6 12:33:01 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:33:01 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090306203257.23DAC3C071D@mail02.wcoil.com> Supposedly they help keep the birds out of the cherry tree too. GRINN Mark At 02:06 PM 3/6/2009, you wrote: >Mark, > On the bright side you can use the old disk plates to make wonderful >sounding wind chimes. > > >********************************************************************** >This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they >are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify >the system manager. > >This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by >MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. > >CNC Software, Inc. >www.mastercam.com >********************************************************************** > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: >03/06/09 07:20:00 Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com 419.358.5206 Home 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Mar 6 12:31:52 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:31:52 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back In-Reply-To: <334350.37367.qm@web82007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <334350.37367.qm@web82007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090306203147.A5C833C076F@mail02.wcoil.com> Already been in the freezer :-( Mark At 01:51 PM 3/6/2009, you wrote: >Mark > >I have used the freezer trick in the past....I have a cable setup >that connects via USB that I have used. Sometimes it works, other >times it doesn't. It all depends on the type of failure. I had a >friend who restored my data files from a hard drive for me a few >years ago, but it took a month. > >Steve > >--- On Fri, 3/6/09, JMGRIVNA at aol.com wrote: > > > From: JMGRIVNA at aol.com > > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT: Im Back > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 9:29 AM > > Mark, search a website called "cnet". If I recall they did an > article on just such a procedure a couple of months ago and tested > some fairly inexpensive software for the process. I also heard > once that putting the drive in your freezer overnight sometimes > works but I've never tried it. > > > > > > Mike > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: >03/06/09 07:20:00 Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com 419.358.5206 Home 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Mar 6 14:35:57 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:35:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Lorenz & Benz Register Totals Message-ID: <99f4316916d80b943e066b3cb09fb5f8.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hi George, 19 Lorenz engines are in the US (two more in Canada) and one in SA. 13 Benz engines are in the US (two more in Canada). All the rest of the Lorenz & Benz engines are in Europe. > Lorenz Engines - 58 total > Benz Engines - 40 total Arnie On Fri, March 6, 2009 2:00 pm, Best, George wrote: > > Just curious if you could say how many Lorenz and Benz engines are in > the U.S.? > > I'm guessing the majority in your registery are outside the U.S. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From jnyost at yahoo.com Fri Mar 6 16:00:45 2009 From: jnyost at yahoo.com (James Yost) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:00:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] Question Message-ID: <991822.73654.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ?I am not receiving any SEL emails. What do I need to do to get these? Jim and Janna Yost Utica, Ohio USA jnyost at yahoo.com From JMGRIVNA at aol.com Fri Mar 6 19:26:02 2009 From: JMGRIVNA at aol.com (JMGRIVNA at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:26:02 EST Subject: [SEL] Question Message-ID: Hi Jim. If you get this one, we're still around. Mike & Cherie Grivna ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219957551x1201325337/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3F sc%3D668072%26hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 7 01:54:08 2009 From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 20:54:08 +1100 Subject: [SEL] PETTER ANGLO QUESTION Message-ID: Hi All, hoping some one out there in engine land can help me,i am working on a 5hp petter anglo horizontal engine,the problems is i cant work out the fuel system[carby] on it,it appears to have been modified as the way i got it it just cant work,what i need is the length of the fuel needle,some close up pictures of the internals would be good also,looking forward to getting it running,cheers Dave _________________________________________________________________ Find out what?s new with your friends Download the new Windows Live Messenger http://download.live.com/ From cgandree at mchsi.com Sat Mar 7 03:50:28 2009 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:50:28 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Lorenz & Benz Register Totals In-Reply-To: <99f4316916d80b943e066b3cb09fb5f8.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <030720091150.21347.49B25F840004EE6400005363223045151403010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Hi Arnie, Unless requested by their owners can you list the Lorenz folks along with contact info? Wouldn't mind comunicating with them to make comparisons, advice,etc. thanks, Curt Andree -------------- Original message from "Arnie Fero" : -------------- > Hi George, > > 19 Lorenz engines are in the US (two more in Canada) and one in SA. > 13 Benz engines are in the US (two more in Canada). > All the rest of the Lorenz & Benz engines are in Europe. > > > Lorenz Engines - 58 total > > Benz Engines - 40 total > > Arnie > > On Fri, March 6, 2009 2:00 pm, Best, George wrote: > > > > Just curious if you could say how many Lorenz and Benz engines are in > > the U.S.? > > > > I'm guessing the majority in your registery are outside the U.S. > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Mar 7 07:41:54 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:41:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Lorenz & Benz Register Totals In-Reply-To: <030720091150.21347.49B25F840004EE6400005363223045151403010CD2079C080C 03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <030720091150.21347.49B25F840004EE6400005363223045151403010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <60a77c05ae85615240a19e52a24d9cee.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Curt, All I gather in the way of "contact info" is the owner's name and city / state / country if that's available. Many of the entries in the register are just photos, S/N, and other technical info gleaned from observing the engine on the rally field. Sorry. Arnie On Sat, March 7, 2009 6:50 am, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > Unless requested by their owners can you list the Lorenz folks along with contact > info? Wouldn't mind comunicating with them to make comparisons, advice,etc. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From russell at ncable.com.au Sat Mar 7 16:08:53 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:08:53 +1100 Subject: [SEL] PETTER ANGLO QUESTION In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090308000823.BB1CD9022E@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> Dave you will need to have a chat with John Palmer from the UK, he will show up on the list soon enough. The fuel stem is apparently always a major problem :-) http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/555136787szkzzX check the above link Niko to see the pic's of mine. It may help you out a little regards Russell At 08:54 PM 7/03/2009, you wrote: >Hi All, hoping some one out there in engine land can help me,i am >working on a 5hp petter anglo horizontal engine,the problems is i >cant work out the fuel system[carby] on it,it appears to have been >modified as the way i got it it just cant work,what i need is the >length of the fuel needle,some close up pictures of the internals >would be good also,looking forward to getting it running,cheers Dave >_________________________________________________________________ >Find out what's new with your friends Download the new Windows Live Messenger >http://download.live.com/ >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 7 18:36:18 2009 From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 13:36:18 +1100 Subject: [SEL] PETTER ANGLO QUESTION In-Reply-To: <20090308000823.BB1CD9022E@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> References: <20090308000823.BB1CD9022E@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: Hi Russell, thanks for the link to your pictures,is that a burgandy colour that remains on the engine as it is hard to find out what the original colour scheme is,cheers Dave > Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:08:53 +1100 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > From: russell at ncable.com.au > Subject: Re: [SEL] PETTER ANGLO QUESTION > > Dave you will need to have a chat with John Palmer from the UK, he > will show up on the list soon enough. The fuel stem is apparently > always a major problem :-) > http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/555136787szkzzX check the > above link Niko to see the pic's of mine. It may help you out a little > > regards Russell > > > > At 08:54 PM 7/03/2009, you wrote: > > >Hi All, hoping some one out there in engine land can help me,i am > >working on a 5hp petter anglo horizontal engine,the problems is i > >cant work out the fuel system[carby] on it,it appears to have been > >modified as the way i got it it just cant work,what i need is the > >length of the fuel needle,some close up pictures of the internals > >would be good also,looking forward to getting it running,cheers Dave > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Find out what's new with your friends Download the new Windows Live Messenger > >http://download.live.com/ > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Find out what?s new with your friends Download the new Windows Live Messenger http://download.live.com/ From endacomm10 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 7 19:49:20 2009 From: endacomm10 at yahoo.com (S. Work) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 19:49:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back Message-ID: <405355.74558.qm@web65403.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Before you go opening up the drive mechanish, Try swapping the Small curcuit board on the underside of the drive with one from another (As Near identical drive) as possible. ? ? Without more information EG: Drive Manufacturer, Model# or atleast Size range, I can't give you more specific instructions. But keep this in mind. 95% of the time a Clicking drive is simple a failure in the drive Electronics, Not the drive mechanics. ? ? Transplanting the "Controler" from a working drive Will usually give you atleast READ Access to the data on the drive (From which you can repair small gaps in files (If Any) Using a sector editor (If a Binary File) or using a Text editor for raw ascii files, Like MS-Excel documents , etc.Feel free to contact me Off-List if you need more specific Info ? ? Sincerely, ???? Steve Work (Endacomm10 at yahoo.com) ??? of Endacomm Computer Services? (EST:1979) 'IN GOD WE TRUST' --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Mark Shulaw wrote: From: Mark Shulaw Subject: [SEL] OT: Im Back To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 10:05 AM I am starting to feel like the computer Gods are picking on me. I have lost two hard drives and all the data on them in the last two months. Both were mechanical failures of the drive, not any virus as far as what the repairman says. The first? drive only lost a weeks worth of data for me. This time I lost 2 months of data. I still have the old drive from my old computer that I supposedly upgraded from so I was able to at least get what I had up till the end of December 2008. But all of my emails and documents since then are locked on the dead drive.? One minute it was working fine the next minute the computer would just not recognize the drive and it was making a clicking noise. QUESTION, does anyone have the ability to swap the disks from one drive to the next? I am told that the companies that does this is way expensive. And from looking at the internals of another dead hard drive and seeing how they are asembled its definately a project beyond my knowledge, skills and tools.? ? ? Mark Mark Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Sun Mar 8 03:14:57 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:14:57 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Crankshaft end float Message-ID: <37995A83AE014781893A2A4C5549D52B@peterlowe> Hi all Thanks for the replies on bearing clearance and square head bolts. Another question: How much end float clearance should I allow on the crankshaft between the crank web and main bearing? Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com Sun Mar 8 07:50:47 2009 From: ottoslidevalve at hotmail.com (john palmer) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:50:47 +0000 Subject: [SEL] PETTER ANGLO QUESTION In-Reply-To: References: <20090308000823.BB1CD9022E@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: David,can you give me a picture of your fuel inlet and then I should be able to give the info you need. John > From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 13:36:18 +1100 > Subject: Re: [SEL] PETTER ANGLO QUESTION > > > Hi Russell, thanks for the link to your pictures,is that a burgandy colour that remains on the engine as it is hard to find out what the original colour scheme is,cheers Dave > > > Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:08:53 +1100 > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > From: russell at ncable.com.au > > Subject: Re: [SEL] PETTER ANGLO QUESTION > > > > Dave you will need to have a chat with John Palmer from the UK, he > > will show up on the list soon enough. The fuel stem is apparently > > always a major problem :-) > > http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/555136787szkzzX check the > > above link Niko to see the pic's of mine. It may help you out a little > > > > regards Russell > > > > > > > > At 08:54 PM 7/03/2009, you wrote: > > > > >Hi All, hoping some one out there in engine land can help me,i am > > >working on a 5hp petter anglo horizontal engine,the problems is i > > >cant work out the fuel system[carby] on it,it appears to have been > > >modified as the way i got it it just cant work,what i need is the > > >length of the fuel needle,some close up pictures of the internals > > >would be good also,looking forward to getting it running,cheers Dave > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Find out what's new with your friends Download the new Windows Live Messenger > > >http://download.live.com/ > > >_______________________________________________ > > >SEL mailing list > > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find out what?s new with your friends Download the new Windows Live Messenger > http://download.live.com/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ All your Twitter and other social updates in one place http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ From jnyost at yahoo.com Sun Mar 8 12:35:05 2009 From: jnyost at yahoo.com (James Yost) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] test Message-ID: <672199.66830.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jim and Janna Yost Utica, Ohio USA jnyost at yahoo.com From enginman1 at verizon.net Sun Mar 8 20:10:54 2009 From: enginman1 at verizon.net (Jeff Parks) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:10:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] New Gas Engine Website to Checkout Message-ID: > Hello All, > > Thought I would make everyone aware of a new gas engine > website. Please enjoy the virtual tour thru part of the collection > shown and check back as things will be updated. > > www.parksmotors.net > > Thanks, > > Jeff Parks > enginman1 at verizon.net > From George_Best at adp.com Mon Mar 9 08:28:46 2009 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:28:46 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Lorenz & Benz Register Totals In-Reply-To: <030720091150.21347.49B25F840004EE6400005363223045151403010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <99f4316916d80b943e066b3cb09fb5f8.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <030720091150.21347.49B25F840004EE6400005363223045151403010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590A299519@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Curt, What size and type of Lorenz do you have? Also serial number. I currently have 2 Lorenz engines and had a 3rd one several years ago. I wouldn't consider myself an expert, but have a fair amount of experience with the ones I have. Plus have seen a lot of them in my travels. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of cgandree at mchsi.com Hi Arnie, Unless requested by their owners can you list the Lorenz folks along with contact info? Wouldn't mind comunicating with them to make comparisons, advice,etc. thanks, Curt Andree This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Mar 9 09:49:41 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:49:41 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Home made "JD" engine In-Reply-To: <20090305221734.06289598D7@gw1.nlenet.net> Message-ID: Frank: Sounds just like one of them-there Johnny poppers. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Frank > DeWitt > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 04:16 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Home made "JD" engine > > > I ran across this amazing model of a 2 cyl John > Deere It is a air engine. From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Mar 9 09:52:52 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:52:52 -0500 Subject: [SEL] bearing clearances In-Reply-To: <1326C7E75BE348CEAF9467D314DAD5F7@loungeroom> Message-ID: Peter: I've been successful with brass/bronze bearings by fitting them just a shade on the snug side then, when first running them, monitor for tightness and heat. When they get noticeably warm or begin to bind, stop and let them cool. Lubricate again and repeat the process. When they're broken-in, they will run continuously without undue heating. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Peter Lowe > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 PM > To: ATIS; oldengine.org > Subject: [SEL] bearing clearances > > > Hi All > > I know we have spoken about this before, but I > did not log the answers. > > I am making two (2) cylindrical one piece > bearings, 4.500" long, crankshaft diameter > 1.450", how many thousanths of an inch clearance > should I allow for when boring out the bearing to > take the crankshaft? I have brand new crank arms > and want a nice snug fit with no play, but not > too tight so it will seize, the correct clearance > in other words. Lubrication on this early model is grease. > > Also does anyone in Oz know of a source for 9/16" > square steel bar. The early R&V's had all square > head bolts and will have to make all new ones, NO > they are not set screws etc etc etc, we have been > there. These bolt are NO longer available, will > post that info to my web site tonight. > > Regards > Peter, Oz From james.kangas at timken.com Mon Mar 9 12:00:24 2009 From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:00:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] test References: <672199.66830.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: loud and clear in Nothern New England Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of James Yost Sent: Sun 3/8/2009 3:35 PM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] test Jim and Janna Yost Utica, Ohio USA jnyost at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. 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The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From avanti_64 at juno.com Mon Mar 9 17:39:58 2009 From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:39:58 GMT Subject: [SEL] ATTN: British list members Message-ID: <20090309.203958.2108.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> Joe Kelley here. I am trying to find the owner of an Associated 3 1/2HP Throttle Governed engine serial #515421. 3 pictures of it are listed on the Associated Web Site by Keith Smigle. I would like to correspond with the owner. I am currently restoring the same model engine and have questions. Any help would be appreciated. Direct email is wildirishman52 at gmail.com Thanks ____________________________________________________________ Click to compare life insurance rates. Great rates, quick and easy. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsHFB6xRp9BBAlEyhYn08uJUHce3LmbPHYVl2vvMxQ4TvS8JgsmwvO/ From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Mar 10 05:26:55 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:26:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] ATTN: British list members In-Reply-To: <20090309.203958.2108.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> References: <20090309.203958.2108.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Joe, What's the URL of that Associated web site? Arnie On Mon, March 9, 2009 8:39 pm, avanti_64 at juno.com wrote: > Joe Kelley here. I am trying to find the owner of an Associated 3 1/2HP Throttle > Governed engine serial #515421. 3 pictures of it are listed on the Associated Web > Site by Keith Smigle. > I would like to correspond with the owner. I am currently restoring the same model > engine and have questions. Any help would be appreciated. > Direct email is wildirishman52 at gmail.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Mar 10 05:33:33 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:33:33 +1100 Subject: [SEL] ATTN: British list members References: <20090309.203958.2108.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <8B031BA248AC4703881A2A04A3D7443F@peterlowe> Let your fingers do the talking Mr Fero http://www.oldengine.org/members/smigle/associatedpageindex.htm Peter, Oz > Joe, > > What's the URL of that Associated web site? > > Arnie > > On Mon, March 9, 2009 8:39 pm, avanti_64 at juno.com wrote: >> Joe Kelley here. I am trying to find the owner of an Associated 3 1/2HP >> Throttle >> Governed engine serial #515421. 3 pictures of it are listed on the >> Associated Web >> Site by Keith Smigle. >> I would like to correspond with the owner. I am currently restoring the >> same model >> engine and have questions. Any help would be appreciated. >> Direct email is wildirishman52 at gmail.com > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Tue Mar 10 05:36:06 2009 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:36:06 -0000 Subject: [SEL] ATTN: British list members References: <20090309.203958.2108.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <002301c9a17c$cfdc55b0$3a290556@intrepid> ----- Original Message ----- To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] ATTN: British list members > On Mon, March 9, 2009 8:39 pm, avanti_64 at juno.com wrote: >> Joe Kelley here. I am trying to find the owner of an Associated 3 1/2HP Throttle >> Governed engine serial #515421. 3 pictures of it are listed on the Associated Web >> Site by Keith Smigle. >> I would like to correspond with the owner. I am currently restoring the same model >> engine and have questions. Any help would be appreciated. >> Direct email is wildirishman52 at gmail.com From: "Arnie Fero" > Joe, > What's the URL of that Associated web site? > Arnie Arnie, I have put it on the UK engine list & below is my latest posting on the subject! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I have been digging around and found the origional photo's at http://www.oldengine.org/members/smigle/associatedpage15.htm They are under "3 HP & 3 1/2 HP Iowa Oversize Engines" http://www.oldengine.org/members/smigle/Associated%20pics/serials/515421.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/smigle/Associated%20pics/serials/515421a.jpg http://www.oldengine.org/members/smigle/Associated%20pics/serials/515421b.jpg In the last photo the engine seems to be for sale at ?600. Possibly at good few years ago for that price? Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Mar 10 06:15:37 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:15:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] ATTN: British list members In-Reply-To: <8B031BA248AC4703881A2A04A3D7443F@peterlowe> References: <20090309.203958.2108.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> <8B031BA248AC4703881A2A04A3D7443F@peterlowe> Message-ID: <91aa9592ee128f367b928544f9cc2978.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> GREAT website. Thanks!! On Tue, March 10, 2009 8:33 am, Peter Lowe wrote: > Let your fingers do the talking Mr Fero > http://www.oldengine.org/members/smigle/associatedpageindex.htm -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From avanti_64 at juno.com Tue Mar 10 16:37:00 2009 From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:37:00 GMT Subject: [SEL] ATTN: British list members Message-ID: <20090310.193700.5301.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Hi Arnie, here is the link to the exact engine www.oldengine.org/members/smigle/Associated pics/serials/515421.jpg Here is the link to the Associated Site www.oldengine.org/members/smigle/associatedpageindex.htm Thanks, Joe ____________________________________________________________ Hit it out of the park with a new bat. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsL78uY9fp9vCN2KDwdsssiDb73jpgSEnoYKJnwDAuqzsWHW2E4ZUE/ From avanti_64 at juno.com Tue Mar 10 16:48:26 2009 From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:48:26 GMT Subject: [SEL] ATTN: British list members Message-ID: <20090310.194826.5301.2@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Arnie, I guess I was a little late on getting the info to ya! Joe ____________________________________________________________ Criminal Lawyers - Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsMx6wp699u8scelTH4QpZ3tBlNcXWY1rJLZADqv1kqTVhMBRhb588/ From kevin.karch at att.net Tue Mar 10 18:46:38 2009 From: kevin.karch at att.net (Kevin Karch) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] So just where in the world IS Glenn Karch? Message-ID: <799760.95869.qm@web83814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi ? ? My name is Kevin Karch; I'm the youngest son of Glenn Karch, of which I'm sure many of you are friends or acquaintances.? I spoke with Keith?Kinney a little while back, and he noted some folks on the list were curious as to where my Dad has been as of late.? That's where I come in.? I debated quite a while on whether to say anything or what to say...I ended up figuring the best thing is just to talk about it, plain and simple. ? The short story:??Dad?is?currently?not checking up on his e-mails as he is dealing with brain cancer.? He wrapped up his last chemo and radiation treatments a few weeks ago, and the side effects of treatment have made using?the?computer?a little too frustrating at this point.?The good news is the last doctor appointment said the treatment has at least slowed if not stopped the progression. ? In the meantime,?until he's back on his feet (keyboard?),?I suggest that you direct any engine-related (Hercules, Economy, Jaeger, Thermoil, etc.)?questions to Keith Kinney at kkinney at HerculesEngines.com.? Other questions can be directed to me at kevin.karch at att.net, although please understand I probably will not be checking my e-mail quite as regularly as Dad (I?m not retired!) .? We appreciate you keeping Dad in your thoughts and prayers. ? Best Regards, Kevin Karch From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 10 19:29:30 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:29:30 -0600 Subject: [SEL] So just where in the world IS Glenn Karch? References: <799760.95869.qm@web83814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9E4E705F98B1414C834FB2FAE1850A67@PAUL> Kevin this is shocking news to hear that your dad is dealing with brain cancer. The last time I saw him I had went to his house to pick up an old garden tractor. He seemed in the best of health. Please tell your Dad that we will all be praying for his speedy recovery and he will be in our constant thoughts. Thanks for letting us know about your dad, he is a very special man to all of us. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Karch" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:46 PM Subject: [SEL] So just where in the world IS Glenn Karch? Hi ? My name is Kevin Karch; I'm the youngest son of Glenn Karch, of which I'm sure many of you are friends or acquaintances. I spoke with Keith Kinney a little while back, and he noted some folks on the list were curious as to where my Dad has been as of late. That's where I come in. I debated quite a while on whether to say anything or what to say...I ended up figuring the best thing is just to talk about it, plain and simple. The short story: Dad is currently not checking up on his e-mails as he is dealing with brain cancer. He wrapped up his last chemo and radiation treatments a few weeks ago, and the side effects of treatment have made using the computer a little too frustrating at this point. The good news is the last doctor appointment said the treatment has at least slowed if not stopped the progression. In the meantime, until he's back on his feet (keyboard?), I suggest that you direct any engine-related (Hercules, Economy, Jaeger, Thermoil, etc.) questions to Keith Kinney at kkinney at HerculesEngines.com. Other questions can be directed to me at kevin.karch at att.net, although please understand I probably will not be checking my e-mail quite as regularly as Dad (I?m not retired!) . We appreciate you keeping Dad in your thoughts and prayers. Best Regards, Kevin Karch _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Mar 11 04:15:19 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:15:19 +1100 Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Glen_Karch_get_well?= Message-ID: <076D968C7A534D81A57E89AF2B3C80C6@peterlowe> Hi guys Would it be prudent to send Glen an international get well card from both engine lists?? Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Wed Mar 11 04:20:30 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:20:30 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Glen Karch get well In-Reply-To: <076D968C7A534D81A57E89AF2B3C80C6@peterlowe> Message-ID: Absolutely! Sign me up. I hope his health keeps improving & he is back on his feet soon. On 11/3/09 10:15 PM, "Peter Lowe" wrote: > Hi guys > > Would it be prudent to send Glen an international get well card from both > engine lists?? > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From avanti_64 at juno.com Wed Mar 11 05:33:45 2009 From: avanti_64 at juno.com (avanti_64 at juno.com) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:33:45 GMT Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spam=3E_Re=3A__Spam=3E_Glen_Karch_get_well?= Message-ID: <20090311.083345.2860.1@webmail23.vgs.untd.com> Definitely! Joe ____________________________________________________________ Come clean with a brand new shower. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsE4zZvKbSdnsXdOO2q7qpJvQBsdJ9LL9bVrq8osv42ESlLDBYw5g8/ From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Mar 11 08:31:05 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:31:05 -0500 Subject: [SEL] So just where in the world IS Glenn Karch? In-Reply-To: <799760.95869.qm@web83814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Kevin: Please convey my best wishes to your Dad. I've never met him but he's considered an important part of our hobby. Take care - Elden DuRand edurand at mchsi.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Kevin Karch > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 08:47 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Cc: kurt.karch at yahoo.com > Subject: [SEL] So just where in the world IS Glenn Karch? From jlb94 at juno.com Wed Mar 11 20:21:13 2009 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:21:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: <20090311.224149.1460.1.jlb94> Kevin: Please convey my best wishes to your Dad. Glenn has always played a major part in the Gas Engine hobby. We all wish him a speedy recovery and will keep him in our prayers. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ (_o_) "There is more to life than increasing its speed." ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find the perfect picture with our powerful photo search features. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTEuJDm6ZnFa7aZyCI1nurnv59rhvfcSKdbvadMx0KuqbiCdVc6bEM/ From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Mar 12 03:41:11 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:41:11 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch Message-ID: <625E72B4F48F4B14B8DF9A85E9A740BE@peterlowe> Hi All No one has jumped in, I will buy a large get well card and post it from Australia. I want everyone to send me an email to plowe at exemail.com.au NOT to the LISTS. Click on the blue email address link here in the email if you are not sure what to do. Place "Get Well" into the subject line of your email. I want your full name and state in the email, I will then type up a list and insert it into the card. You have until Monday to get your details to me. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu Mar 12 04:16:52 2009 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:16:52 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys Message-ID: Over the years I have heard many people ask how to remove a Jib Key, I have recently removed the most difficult one I have seen, and of all the methods I have tried including drilling 5 inches to get one out, the method I used was by far the best. I had added HINTS to my web page http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/National%20Key.html Kerry From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Mar 12 04:54:18 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:54:18 EDT Subject: [SEL] So just where in the world IS Glenn Karch? Message-ID: Kevin, We will pray that your father has a speedy recovery. Just a couple of months ago he helped me with an engine I was working on and sent me some copies of engine details to help me out. He is always a great source of information in the old engine hobby and ready to help in any way. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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John > From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au > To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:16:52 +1100 > Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys > > Over the years I have heard many people ask how to remove a Jib Key, I have > recently removed the most difficult one I have seen, and of all the methods > I have tried including drilling 5 inches to get one out, the method I used > was by far the best. > I had added HINTS to my web page > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/National%20Key.html > > Kerry > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place ? Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ From FRM8198 at aol.com Thu Mar 12 07:22:37 2009 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:22:37 EDT Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys Message-ID: Thanks for sharing. Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA 93454 In a message dated 3/12/2009 4:23:01 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ozengine at optusnet.com.au writes: I had added HINTS to my web page **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219671244x1201345076/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Mar 12 07:34:09 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:34:09 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54CFEAAA-1945-43EF-BD26-5479C057D562@rustyiron.com> Nice work, Kerry. But where is the picture of the WHOLE National? I looked at your web page, and couldn't find it. Is it 1486 (early!) or 14860 (still pretty early)? Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com On Mar 12, 2009, at 4:16 AM, Kerry wrote: > Over the years I have heard many people ask how to remove a Jib Key, > I have > recently removed the most difficult one I have seen, and of all the > methods > I have tried including drilling 5 inches to get one out, the method > I used > was by far the best. > I had added HINTS to my web page > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/National%20Key.html > > Kerry From alanwh at iinet.net.au Thu Mar 12 13:47:49 2009 From: alanwh at iinet.net.au (Alan Wheaton) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:47:49 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5E5EB300CEE94F899B62D1FBD1FDF5FD@shack> Good job Kerry Like the idea of the pipe Worked very well Alan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2009 10:17 PM To: stationary-engine at oldengine.org; sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys Over the years I have heard many people ask how to remove a Jib Key, I have recently removed the most difficult one I have seen, and of all the methods I have tried including drilling 5 inches to get one out, the method I used was by far the best. I had added HINTS to my web page http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/National%20Key.html Kerry _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu Mar 12 15:03:56 2009 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:03:56 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys In-Reply-To: <54CFEAAA-1945-43EF-BD26-5479C057D562@rustyiron.com> References: <54CFEAAA-1945-43EF-BD26-5479C057D562@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <0491BF30127D49AF9E01C4DA3BFA2C11@KerryPC> Thanks to Peter I will get reference to GIB key corrected, one of those things I have been calling incorrect for all these years. The National is 14830 and I think somewhere between 1901 - 1905 but properly closer to 1905, the engine was stripped but largely complete and yesterday started the rebuild program she is one heavy beast for its HP. Many strange things with this engine and will have story and photos later Kerry > Nice work, Kerry. But where is the picture of the WHOLE National? I > looked at your web page, and couldn't find it. Is it 1486 (early!) or > 14860 (still pretty early)? > From rotigel at me.com Thu Mar 12 15:56:44 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:56:44 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01166539-2AA7-41BA-8F43-3C2AB1408E07@me.com> THANKS Kerry! Got that one bookmarked! Dave On Mar 12, 2009, at 7:16 AM, Kerry wrote: > Over the years I have heard many people ask how to remove a Jib Key, > I have > recently removed the most difficult one I have seen, and of all the > methods > I have tried including drilling 5 inches to get one out, the method > I used > was by far the best. > I had added HINTS to my web page > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/National%20Key.html > > Kerry > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From steve_royster at hotmail.com Thu Mar 12 16:17:08 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:17:08 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys In-Reply-To: <01166539-2AA7-41BA-8F43-3C2AB1408E07@me.com> References: <01166539-2AA7-41BA-8F43-3C2AB1408E07@me.com> Message-ID: >Darn Kerry, I never had a problem getting them out, We can't keep them In! Little brother and I were out side running the latest acquisition when it quietly stopped running..... didn't take much inspection to realize the flywheel and Gib key had wandered the timing gears apart. Good thing the flywheel didn't wander down the driveway and into the pond. Do you think they make flywheel strength loctite or should I just drill the hub full of set screws??? Maybe Knurl the end of the crank with an 8 lb sledge? Steve, the good CloisteredOyster > > Over the years I have heard many people ask how to remove a Jib Key, > > I have > > recently removed the most difficult one I have seen, and of all the > > methods > > I have tried including drilling 5 inches to get one out, the method > > I used > > was by far the best. > > I had added HINTS to my web page > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/National%20Key.html > > > > Kerry > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 From jdohagan at comcast.net Thu Mar 12 17:21:15 2009 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:21:15 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090313002126.8A1724056BC@in03.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Steve if the hub isn't the split type with a bolt to cinch it up,squeezing the key, didn't the manufactures use a tapered key ,being real careful not to split the hub. Cya, Jimmy O'Hagan Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve Royster Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:17 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys >Darn Kerry, I never had a problem getting them out, We can't keep them In! Little brother and I were out side running the latest acquisition when it quietly stopped running..... didn't take much inspection to realize the flywheel and Gib key had wandered the timing gears apart. Good thing the flywheel didn't wander down the driveway and into the pond. Do you think they make flywheel strength loctite or should I just drill the hub full of set screws??? Maybe Knurl the end of the crank with an 8 lb sledge? Steve, the good CloisteredOyster > > Over the years I have heard many people ask how to remove a Jib Key, > > I have > > recently removed the most difficult one I have seen, and of all the > > methods > > I have tried including drilling 5 inches to get one out, the method > > I used > > was by far the best. > > I had added HINTS to my web page > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/National%20Key.html > > > > Kerry > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows LiveT Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdi at rochester.rr.com Fri Mar 13 04:43:56 2009 From: rdi at rochester.rr.com (Rick I.) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:43:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Pioneer Gas Engine Association Crankup photos online References: Message-ID: I've (finally!) got some engine photos up from last May's Pioneer Gas Engine Association Crankup (Marion, NY) at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/inzero/crankup2008/index.html Includes pix of an uncommon LaZier Neverstop which was running that day. -Rick I. (Rick's Taylor Vacuum Engine) From Germoamer at aol.com Fri Mar 13 05:35:37 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:35:37 EDT Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys Message-ID: Steve, I did not think tapered keys had a tendency to loosen unless there was something not quite fitting up correctly, like slot bigger than key or taper not quite correct. I have "blued" keys, loosely driving them in and retracting to see where they rubbed and filing to make a good metal to metal fit along the length of the key. If the shaft to hub bore has too much clearance from some "loosening" wear might also cause this problem. Jimmy mentioned split with straight keys versus solid hubs with tapered keys. Would all the problems over the years with us trying to remove tapered keys been solved by everyone using split hubs? Could a split hub have used with a tapered key? Kerry sure had some good "Yankee" ingenuity in removing his key. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219671244x1201345076/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From gastzt at aol.com Fri Mar 13 07:24:49 2009 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:24:49 EDT Subject: [SEL] Pioneer Gas Engine Association Crankup photos online Message-ID: In a message dated 3/13/2009 6:53:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, rdi at rochester.rr.com writes: http://www.oldengine.org/members/inzero/crankup2008/index.html WOW--such great pics--I love the Hercules pic--I have one exactly like it--gee thanks for a job WELL done Stan Zettner Pleasanton, Texas (Stovers and Hercules) ha **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000005) From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Mar 13 08:02:40 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:02:40 +0200 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Postal charges (USA) Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090313165913.00c52e88@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi Guys, Can anyone give me a link to where I can find USPS postal charges. I want to bring some things in from the USA and want to work out my budgets. Many thanks. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 08:20:03 2009 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:20:03 +0000 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Postal charges (USA) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090313165913.00c52e88@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090313165913.00c52e88@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <6f6025160903130820x7f50fc2l146e9af5b0b66c98@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/13 Jerry Evans : > Hi Guys, > Can anyone give me a link to where I can find USPS postal charges. > > I want to bring some things in from the USA and want to work out > my budgets. > Many thanks. > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans http://www.usps.com Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From obise at moscow.com Fri Mar 13 08:20:01 2009 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:20:01 -0700 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Postal charges (USA) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090313165913.00c52e88@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <200903131520.n2DFKCXF031659@mail-gw.fsr.net> Give this a try, Jerry. http://www.usps.com/ Click on "Calculate Postage." Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:03 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] O.T. Postal charges (USA) Hi Guys, Can anyone give me a link to where I can find USPS postal charges. I want to bring some things in from the USA and want to work out my budgets. Many thanks. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Mar 13 09:04:45 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:04:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Postal charges (USA) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090313165913.00c52e88@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090313165913.00c52e88@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <20090313160443.EFD161475C4@mail01.wcoil.com> Hi Jerry, Heres the location of the shipping calculator I use. http://postcalc.usps.gov/ You can calculate international charges from there. Mark At 11:02 AM 3/13/2009, you wrote: >Hi Guys, > Can anyone give me a link to where I can find USPS postal charges. > > I want to bring some things in from the USA and want to work out >my budgets. >Many thanks. > >Keep the revs up (or down) >Jerry Evans >Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/1999 - Release Date: >03/13/09 05:59:00 Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. Check out the Maytag Collectors Club web site www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Fri Mar 13 09:37:15 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:37:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T. Postal charges (USA) Message-ID: <20090313163714.5700E76B834E@mail07.wcoil.com> Hi Jerry, Heres the location of the shipping calculator I use. http://postcalc.usps.gov/ You can calculate international charges directly from there. Mark At 11:02 AM 3/13/2009, you wrote: >Hi Guys, > Can anyone give me a link to where I can find USPS postal charges. > > I want to bring some things in from the USA and want to work out >my budgets. >Many thanks. > >Keep the revs up (or down) >Jerry Evans >Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/1999 - Release Date: >03/13/09 05:59:00 Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. Check out the Maytag Collectors Club web site www.Maytagclub.com From steve_royster at hotmail.com Fri Mar 13 10:18:46 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:18:46 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tom, The answer of course was something not fitting correctly! Slot was bigger than the key and will have to be fitted with a larger key which I will pick up at the next show. The hub was solid and not split however. See you at Reidsville show next month. Thanks Steve > From: Germoamer at aol.com > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:35:37 -0400 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys > > Steve, > > I did not think tapered keys had a tendency to loosen unless there was > something not quite fitting up correctly, like slot bigger than key or taper not > quite correct. I have "blued" keys, loosely driving them in and retracting to > see where they rubbed and filing to make a good metal to metal fit along the > length of the key. If the shaft to hub bore has too much clearance from some > "loosening" wear might also cause this problem. > > Jimmy mentioned split with straight keys versus solid hubs with tapered > keys. Would all the problems over the years with us trying to remove tapered > keys been solved by everyone using split hubs? Could a split hub have used with > a tapered key? > > Kerry sure had some good "Yankee" ingenuity in removing his key. > > Tom Schmutz > Concord, Va. > germoamer at AOL.com > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219671244x1201345076/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID > %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 From Germoamer at aol.com Fri Mar 13 13:57:44 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:57:44 EDT Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys Message-ID: In a message dated 3/13/2009 1:23:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, steve_royster at hotmail.com writes: See you at Reidsville show next month Steve, Yes, Reidsville show not far away. Hopefully I will have an engine that runs all day! HA! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Fri Mar 13 23:50:33 2009 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:50:33 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Was: Removing Damaged Jib Keys - Now, remember the FAQ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49BB53B9.9020903@steamengine.com.au> This seems like a timely time to remind the members of the FAQ for this mailing list which covers questions like this and plenty more. http://www.steamengine.com.au/ic/faq/index.html The FAQ was started in 1995 with this lists predecessor but hasn't had a lot of updates in recent times and we've not covered everything yet - so if anyone wants to contribute please let me know. Regards Paul From plowe at exemail.com.au Sat Mar 14 05:33:22 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:33:22 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Was: Removing Damaged Jib Keys - Now, remember the FAQ References: <49BB53B9.9020903@steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: <4CF36801A9B445C598A16212C3B5A6D7@peterlowe> Maybe be so, and it is a valuable resource, but there is nothing like seeing pictures of how others have struggled with this age old problem and over come it. I good picture is worth a thousand words (old Chinese proverb and modernised by Fred R. Barnard ) Peter, Oz > This seems like a timely time to remind the members of the FAQ for this > mailing list which covers questions like this and plenty more. > > http://www.steamengine.com.au/ic/faq/index.html > > The FAQ was started in 1995 with this lists predecessor but hasn't had a > lot of updates in recent times and we've not covered everything yet - so > if anyone wants to contribute please let me know. > > Regards > Paul From Germoamer at aol.com Sat Mar 14 05:37:58 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 08:37:58 EDT Subject: [SEL] Was: Removing Damaged Jib Keys - Now, remember the FAQ Message-ID: In a message dated 3/14/2009 2:53:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, pjp08 at steamengine.com.au writes: This seems like a timely time to remind the members of the FAQ for this mailing list which covers questions like this and plenty more. Paul, Thanks for reminding us. Lots of good info there! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From gastzt at aol.com Sat Mar 14 07:37:42 2009 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:37:42 EDT Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys Message-ID: Hello Tom--- where is the Reidsville show at--- I mean by that,which state/area??? Gee thanks Stan Z Pleasanton, Tex **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000005) From Germoamer at aol.com Sat Mar 14 08:45:41 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:45:41 EDT Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys Message-ID: Stan, Antique Engine Association show is in Reidsville, North Carolina, north of Greensboro, just off Route 29. It is the earliest show in this area and always nice to see your old engine buddies after the winter. Held on April 24/25. It is a small show, but lots of good stuff to look at. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From gastzt at aol.com Sat Mar 14 11:16:25 2009 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:16:25 EDT Subject: [SEL] Removing Damaged Jib Keys Message-ID: Tom-- Oh gee thanks SO much for the info--- was up that way about 3 yrs ago---went to go haul back an old Dodge truck with the fluid drive---! They are as fun as the old engines! I have an old 1-ton Dodge (I had for 50 yrs) that I use for engine hauling-- this one I got is for parts! Well, anyway thanks again for the info--- maybe meet some more of you guys sometime---- Stan Pleasanton, Tx **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000005) From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 12:01:34 2009 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:01:34 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Springs Show Pictures Message-ID: <6f6025160903141201p31097751qed0bddc4ce280356@mail.gmail.com> We have got 140+ pictures up on the websites: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Zolfo09/Zolfo09Menu1.htm http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Zolfo09/Zolfo09Menu1.htm Just working on the Kennedy Space Center pictures now. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From fero_ah at city-net.com Sat Mar 14 12:43:03 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:43:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Springs Show Pictures In-Reply-To: <6f6025160903141201p31097751qed0bddc4ce280356@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160903141201p31097751qed0bddc4ce280356@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Nice sunny pics Peter. Dave & the boys are lookin' good down there. See ya, Arnie On Sat, March 14, 2009 3:01 pm, Listerdiesel wrote: > We have got 140+ pictures up on the websites: > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Zolfo09/Zolfo09Menu1.htm -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 14:21:34 2009 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:21:34 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Springs Show Pictures In-Reply-To: References: <6f6025160903141201p31097751qed0bddc4ce280356@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160903141421r38ce5d91q5eaf4421bd7cc8bf@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/14 Arnie Fero : > Nice sunny pics Peter. ?Dave & the boys are lookin' good down there. > > See ya, ?Arnie Yes, we couldn't have asked for better weather, it was 85 F the day we left for home. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rotigel at me.com Sat Mar 14 20:02:38 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:02:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Was: Removing Damaged Jib Keys - Now, remember the FAQ In-Reply-To: <49BB53B9.9020903@steamengine.com.au> References: <49BB53B9.9020903@steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: <2C00010F-8D9B-41A4-B246-C1D1D8F49BB5@me.com> Your site has provided a wealth of good advice over the years Paul! THANKS!!!!! Dave On Mar 14, 2009, at 2:50 AM, Paul Pavlinovich wrote: > This seems like a timely time to remind the members of the FAQ for > this > mailing list which covers questions like this and plenty more. > > http://www.steamengine.com.au/ic/faq/index.html > > The FAQ was started in 1995 with this lists predecessor but hasn't > had a > lot of updates in recent times and we've not covered everything yet > - so > if anyone wants to contribute please let me know. > > Regards > Paul > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Sat Mar 14 21:24:41 2009 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 15:24:41 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Was: Removing Damaged Jib Keys - Now, remember the FAQ In-Reply-To: <4CF36801A9B445C598A16212C3B5A6D7@peterlowe> References: <49BB53B9.9020903@steamengine.com.au> <4CF36801A9B445C598A16212C3B5A6D7@peterlowe> Message-ID: <49BC8309.3070709@steamengine.com.au> I agree completely Peter. Pictures are wonderful. The FAQ layout is a little old school and does show its age :). Regards Paul Peter Lowe wrote: > Maybe be so, and it is a valuable resource, but there is nothing like seeing > pictures of how others have struggled with this age old problem and over > come it. > I good picture is worth a thousand words (old Chinese proverb and modernised > by Fred R. Barnard ) > Peter, Oz > > From rotigel at me.com Sat Mar 14 21:59:30 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 00:59:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Was: Removing Damaged Jib Keys - Now, remember the FAQ In-Reply-To: <49BC8309.3070709@steamengine.com.au> References: <49BB53B9.9020903@steamengine.com.au> <4CF36801A9B445C598A16212C3B5A6D7@peterlowe> <49BC8309.3070709@steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: <04A7C550-D185-4D00-8AE6-987297116CB4@me.com> Both of you must keep in mind tha BtHO said on 8 AUGUST, 2009 that a "proper" word is worth a thousand pictures! Dave On Mar 15, 2009, at 12:24 AM, Paul Pavlinovich wrote: > I agree completely Peter. Pictures are wonderful. The FAQ layout is a > little old school and does show its age :). > > Regards > Paul > > Peter Lowe wrote: >> Maybe be so, and it is a valuable resource, but there is nothing >> like seeing >> pictures of how others have struggled with this age old problem and >> over >> come it. >> I good picture is worth a thousand words (old Chinese proverb and >> modernised >> by Fred R. Barnard ) >> Peter, Oz >> >> From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Sun Mar 15 01:37:33 2009 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:37:33 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Was: Removing Damaged Jib Keys - Now, remember the FAQ In-Reply-To: <04A7C550-D185-4D00-8AE6-987297116CB4@me.com> References: <49BB53B9.9020903@steamengine.com.au> <4CF36801A9B445C598A16212C3B5A6D7@peterlowe> <49BC8309.3070709@steamengine.com.au> <04A7C550-D185-4D00-8AE6-987297116CB4@me.com> Message-ID: <49BCBE4D.1080507@steamengine.com.au> Do you remember everything that was ever said Dave? You certainly seem to :). Hehehe Regards Paul David Rotigel wrote: > Both of you must keep in mind tha BtHO said on 8 AUGUST, 2009 that a > "proper" word is worth a thousand pictures! > Dave > On Mar 15, 2009, at 12:24 AM, Paul Pavlinovich wrote: > > >> I agree completely Peter. Pictures are wonderful. The FAQ layout is a >> little old school and does show its age :). >> >> Regards >> Paul >> >> Peter Lowe wrote: >> >>> Maybe be so, and it is a valuable resource, but there is nothing >>> like seeing >>> pictures of how others have struggled with this age old problem and >>> over >>> come it. >>> I good picture is worth a thousand words (old Chinese proverb and >>> modernised >>> by Fred R. Barnard ) >>> Peter, Oz >>> >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: 03/14/09 06:54:00 > > From plowe at exemail.com.au Sun Mar 15 02:46:08 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:46:08 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Was: Removing Damaged Jib Keys - Now, remember the FAQ References: <49BB53B9.9020903@steamengine.com.au><4CF36801A9B445C598A16212C3B5A6D7@peterlowe> <49BC8309.3070709@steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: <5EBBD50B102A43F2B4407135133839D8@peterlowe> Not to take away from your efforts Paul, it is still a valuable source for newbies and old hands alike. Peter, Oz >I agree completely Peter. Pictures are wonderful. The FAQ layout is a > little old school and does show its age :). > > Regards > Paul > > Peter Lowe wrote: >> Maybe be so, and it is a valuable resource, but there is nothing like >> seeing >> pictures of how others have struggled with this age old problem and over >> come it. >> I good picture is worth a thousand words (old Chinese proverb and >> modernised >> by Fred R. Barnard ) >> Peter, Oz >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Germoamer at aol.com Sun Mar 15 06:11:01 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:11:01 EDT Subject: [SEL] Zolfo Springs Show Pictures Message-ID: Peter, Thanks for the great photos. Sorry that Millie and I could not make it to Zoflo this year. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From rotigel at me.com Sun Mar 15 17:44:52 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:44:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Was: Removing Damaged Jib Keys - Now, remember the FAQ In-Reply-To: <49BCBE4D.1080507@steamengine.com.au> References: <49BB53B9.9020903@steamengine.com.au> <4CF36801A9B445C598A16212C3B5A6D7@peterlowe> <49BC8309.3070709@steamengine.com.au> <04A7C550-D185-4D00-8AE6-987297116CB4@me.com> <49BCBE4D.1080507@steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: Only going back to several years before Plato. Dave On Mar 15, 2009, at 4:37 AM, Paul Pavlinovich wrote: > Do you remember everything that was ever said Dave? You certainly seem > to :). > > Hehehe > > Regards > Paul > > David Rotigel wrote: >> Both of you must keep in mind tha BtHO said on 8 AUGUST, 2009 that a >> "proper" word is worth a thousand pictures! >> Dave >> On Mar 15, 2009, at 12:24 AM, Paul Pavlinovich wrote: >> >> >>> I agree completely Peter. Pictures are wonderful. The FAQ layout >>> is a >>> little old school and does show its age :). >>> >>> Regards >>> Paul >>> >>> Peter Lowe wrote: >>> >>>> Maybe be so, and it is a valuable resource, but there is nothing >>>> like seeing >>>> pictures of how others have struggled with this age old problem and >>>> over >>>> come it. >>>> I good picture is worth a thousand words (old Chinese proverb and >>>> modernised >>>> by Fred R. Barnard ) >>>> Peter, Oz >>>> >>>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/2001 - Release Date: >> 03/14/09 06:54:00 >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Mon Mar 16 04:55:17 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:55:17 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Auction in Hart, Texas Message-ID: <1C44FCA5A29941EB92358E608FD694FC@peterlowe> Hi guys Anyone going to this auction in Hart, Texas next week??? MARCH 26 - 28, 2009 9:00 AM EACH DAY It is a 3 day auction so if your into engines you might to need to find when the engines are being auctioned. Couple of R&V's for sale that I would like to see what they go for and contact the new owners and get good clear photos if anyone goes. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From plowe at exemail.com.au Mon Mar 16 05:01:03 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:01:03 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Auction in Hart, Texas Message-ID: <204D7B5ADAA14FEA937C4060A7314188@peterlowe> Sorry, forgot to place the link to the auction page, it is now below. Hi guys Anyone going to this auction in Hart, Texas next week??? MARCH 26 - 28, 2009 9:00 AM EACH DAY It is a 3 day auction so if your into engines you might to need to find when the engines are being auctioned. http://www.nixonauctioneers.com/listings/armstrong_listing.html Couple of R&V's for sale that I would like to see what they go for and contact the new owners and get good clear photos if anyone goes. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 16 17:36:13 2009 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:36:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Hart, TX auction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's 653 miles for me, but only 584 for Chuck. Maybe he can run up there... Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway > Sorry, forgot to place the link to the auction page, it is now below. > > > Hi guys > > Anyone going to this auction in Hart, Texas next week??? MARCH 26 - 28, 2009 9:00 AM EACH DAY > It is a 3 day auction so if your into engines you might to need to find when the engines are being auctioned. > http://www.nixonauctioneers.com/listings/armstrong_listing.html > Couple of R&V's for sale that I would like to see what they go for and contact the new owners and get good clear photos if anyone goes. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > > _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme From plowe at exemail.com.au Mon Mar 16 19:50:28 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:50:28 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Hart, TX auction References: Message-ID: <964B2262B089401F8A206A377B716792@peterlowe> No special trips, only if someone is going. I have the serial number from those two R&V's for sale already. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm It's 653 miles for me, but only 584 for Chuck. Maybe he can run up there... Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway > Sorry, forgot to place the link to the auction page, it is now below. > > > Hi guys > > Anyone going to this auction in Hart, Texas next week??? MARCH 26 - 28, > 2009 9:00 AM EACH DAY > It is a 3 day auction so if your into engines you might to need to find > when the engines are being auctioned. > http://www.nixonauctioneers.com/listings/armstrong_listing.html > Couple of R&V's for sale that I would like to see what they go for and > contact the new owners and get good clear photos if anyone goes. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > > _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Mon Mar 16 20:36:05 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:36:05 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Message-ID: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> Hi All I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow 4pm Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be included in the Card. There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good engine mate up and all join in. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From page at velocitynet.com.au Mon Mar 16 20:47:58 2009 From: page at velocitynet.com.au (page at velocitynet.com.au) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:47:58 +1100 (EST) Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> Message-ID: <60422.124.187.19.110.1237261678.squirrel@webmail.velocity.net.au> Hi Peter You can add my name to the card. Ron Page ACT > Hi All > > I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow 4pm > Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be > included in the Card. > There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good > engine mate up and all join in. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Mon Mar 16 20:48:55 2009 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:48:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> Message-ID: <00f601c9a6b3$4ce96210$e6bc2630$@net> Hey Peter On the back channel (off list); Lew Best near Waco, TX USA -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:36 PM To: ATIS; Oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Hi All I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow 4pm Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be included in the Card. There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good engine mate up and all join in. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Mon Mar 16 20:54:27 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:54:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> Message-ID: <49D0048F-03C7-4F62-9B07-A1149F9818B3@me.com> Thank You Peter for doing what you do! Dave On Mar 16, 2009, at 11:36 PM, Peter Lowe wrote: > Hi All > > I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it > tomorrow 4pm Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name > and state to be included in the Card. > There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a > good engine mate up and all join in. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Mon Mar 16 20:56:28 2009 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:56:28 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: <00f601c9a6b3$4ce96210$e6bc2630$@net> References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> <00f601c9a6b3$4ce96210$e6bc2630$@net> Message-ID: <00fa01c9a6b4$5b462ea0$11d28be0$@net> Oops! Thought I sent it off list (no big deal to me but thought it might create less clutter on the list) Lew -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Lew Best Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:49 PM To: 'The SEL email discussion list' Subject: Re: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Hey Peter On the back channel (off list); Lew Best near Waco, TX USA -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lowe Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:36 PM To: ATIS; Oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Hi All I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow 4pm Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be included in the Card. There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good engine mate up and all join in. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Mon Mar 16 21:01:14 2009 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:01:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> Message-ID: <003701c9a6b5$048646d0$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Add Rick Rowlands, Youngstown, OH to the card. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:36 PM Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card > Hi All > > I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow 4pm > Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be > included in the Card. > There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good > engine mate up and all join in. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Mon Mar 16 21:16:35 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:16:35 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> <003701c9a6b5$048646d0$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: Thanks Rck Peter > Add Rick Rowlands, Youngstown, OH to the card. > > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Lowe" > To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:36 PM > Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card > > >> Hi All >> >> I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow >> 4pm >> Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be >> included in the Card. >> There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good >> engine mate up and all join in. >> >> Regards >> Peter Lowe >> R&V Engine Registrar >> Australia >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bdb at mchsi.com Mon Mar 16 21:18:55 2009 From: bdb at mchsi.com (Barry) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:18:55 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> Message-ID: <4FDA632F7F3245A6A6E414A4C7CF0275@Buffystoy> Hi Peter . Please add Barry Buchanan Ottumwa Ia. to Glenn's card. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:36 PM Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card > Hi All > > I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow 4pm > Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be > included in the Card. > There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good > engine mate up and all join in. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From cooperjb at aapt.net.au Mon Mar 16 21:20:42 2009 From: cooperjb at aapt.net.au (John & Beryl Cooper) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:20:42 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> Message-ID: <008901c9a6b7$bc64abf0$0201010a@JBCooper> Hi Peter, If it's not too late add me to the list. Cheers, John Cooper, Bega, N.S.W. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:36 PM Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card > > Hi All > > I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow 4pm > Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be > included in the Card. > There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good > engine mate up and all join in. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2005 - Release Date: 03/16/09 19:01:00 From solarrog at pacbell.net Mon Mar 16 21:56:39 2009 From: solarrog at pacbell.net (Roger DiRuscio) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:56:39 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> <60422.124.187.19.110.1237261678.squirrel@webmail.velocity.net.au> Message-ID: <6D346D7E7BA34F56B50371E3011C8DB3@D6R3D961> Please add my name Roger DiRuscio Fremont, Ca 94539 510-226-2414 ofc message line website, scrapologist.com Ham radio KG6QKZ (gen) Fremont CERT volunteer "Ardenwood" ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Glenn Karch card > Hi Peter > > You can add my name to the card. > > Ron Page > ACT > >> > > Hi All >> >> I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow >> 4pm >> Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be >> included in the Card. >> There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good >> engine mate up and all join in. >> >> Regards >> Peter Lowe >> R&V Engine Registrar >> Australia >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Mon Mar 16 23:29:09 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:29:09 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> <60422.124.187.19.110.1237261678.squirrel@webmail.velocity.net.au> Message-ID: Thanks Ron Peter > Hi Peter > > You can add my name to the card. > > Ron Page > ACT > >> > > Hi All >> >> I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow >> 4pm >> Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be >> included in the Card. >> There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good >> engine mate up and all join in. >> >> Regards >> Peter Lowe >> R&V Engine Registrar >> Australia >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Mon Mar 16 23:33:31 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:33:31 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Message-ID: <2A2BDD1B46474DB3A80C5DAA89C54073@peterlowe> Hi All PLEASE READ THIS GUYS. Please contact me here, click on my email address right here plowe at exemail.com.au and supply me with your name and state, NOT to the LISTS Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From plowe at exemail.com.au Mon Mar 16 23:46:43 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:46:43 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Logos for LIST Message-ID: <193BE95AFBDC4C3B9E35D0A4EBEAA4AA@peterlowe> Hi all Does oldengine.org (Jim's List) have a logo or only SEL with the blue background and engine driven computer.??? Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From rustyjnk at ncbb.net Tue Mar 17 00:06:17 2009 From: rustyjnk at ncbb.net (norman karde) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:06:17 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> <003701c9a6b5$048646d0$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <49BF4BE9.8050202@ncbb.net> I will piggy back, Please add Norm Karde, Loomis California Peter Lowe wrote: > Thanks Rck > Peter > > > >> Add Rick Rowlands, Youngstown, OH to the card. >> >> Rick >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter Lowe" >> To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" >> >> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:36 PM >> Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card >> >> >> >>> Hi All >>> >>> I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow >>> 4pm >>> Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be >>> included in the Card. >>> There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good >>> engine mate up and all join in. >>> >>> Regards >>> Peter Lowe >>> R&V Engine Registrar >>> Australia >>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 03/16/09 07:04:00 > > From FRM8198 at aol.com Tue Mar 17 00:29:16 2009 From: FRM8198 at aol.com (FRM8198 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:29:16 EDT Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Message-ID: Peter, Please add my name and state to the list. Thanks, Francis Maciel Santa Maria, CA 93454 In a message dated 3/16/2009 8:43:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, plowe at exemail.com.au writes: I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow 4pm Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be included in the Card. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219850974x1201371016/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62) From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Mar 17 02:14:32 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:14:32 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card References: Message-ID: Thanks Francis Peter > Peter, > Please add my name and state to the list. > > Thanks, > > > Francis Maciel > Santa Maria, CA 93454 > > > > In a message dated 3/16/2009 8:43:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > plowe at exemail.com.au writes: > > I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow > 4pm > Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be > included in the Card. > > > > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 > easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219850974x1201371016/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID > %3D62%26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62) > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bmatthews at matthewsfarm.com Tue Mar 17 04:16:57 2009 From: bmatthews at matthewsfarm.com (Bob Matthews) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 07:16:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: <4FDA632F7F3245A6A6E414A4C7CF0275@Buffystoy> References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> <4FDA632F7F3245A6A6E414A4C7CF0275@Buffystoy> Message-ID: <49BF86A9.7060301@matthewsfarm.com> Hi Peter . Please add Bob Matthews to Glenn's card. -- << Bob Matthews, NW Ohio >> From wmlyoung at yahoo.com Tue Mar 17 05:55:31 2009 From: wmlyoung at yahoo.com (William Young) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 05:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Message-ID: <723912.77879.qm@web110303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Peter-san, Here is mine: ? William L. Young Tako, Chiba Prefecture, Japan ? From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Tue Mar 17 06:18:14 2009 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:18:14 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Logos for LIST References: <193BE95AFBDC4C3B9E35D0A4EBEAA4AA@peterlowe> Message-ID: <004601c9a702$d67c8df0$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Speaking of the SEL logo, does anyone have a high resolution (300 dpi good enough) digital image of the engine driven computer logo? Thanks Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:46 AM Subject: [SEL] Logos for LIST > Hi all > > Does oldengine.org (Jim's List) have a logo or only SEL with the blue > background and engine driven computer.??? > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Mar 17 06:25:24 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:25:24 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Logos for LIST References: <193BE95AFBDC4C3B9E35D0A4EBEAA4AA@peterlowe> <004601c9a702$d67c8df0$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: I will send it OFF LIST as you can't send pics to SEL Peter > Speaking of the SEL logo, does anyone have a high resolution (300 dpi good > enough) digital image of the engine driven computer logo? > > Thanks > > Rick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Lowe" > To: "Oldengine.org" ; "ATIS" > > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:46 AM > Subject: [SEL] Logos for LIST > > >> Hi all >> >> Does oldengine.org (Jim's List) have a logo or only SEL with the blue >> background and engine driven computer.??? >> >> Regards >> Peter Lowe >> R&V Engine Registrar >> Australia >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From bill at antique-engines.com Tue Mar 17 06:10:52 2009 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 06:10:52 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Logos for LIST In-Reply-To: <193BE95AFBDC4C3B9E35D0A4EBEAA4AA@peterlowe> References: <193BE95AFBDC4C3B9E35D0A4EBEAA4AA@peterlowe> Message-ID: <28ef060ee2d6d63d3754c8f52dc6df72@dickerson-design.com> I thought that was a mac, not a computer......... Just kidding! Bill On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:46:43 +1100, "Peter Lowe" wrote: > Hi all > > Does oldengine.org (Jim's List) have a logo or only SEL with the blue > background and engine driven computer.??? > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pja at ralph.lafayette.la.us Tue Mar 17 06:45:34 2009 From: pja at ralph.lafayette.la.us (Pete Alleman) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:45:34 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> Message-ID: <1237297534.10090.13.camel@hebe.cctechnol.com> Hi Peter, Please add: Pete and Ruth Alleman, Lafayete, Louisiana Thanks, Pete. On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 14:36 +1100, Peter Lowe wrote: > Hi All > > I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it tomorrow 4pm Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state to be included in the Card. > There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good engine mate up and all join in. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -- Pete Alleman pja at ralph.lafayette.la.us Lafayette, Louisiana USA From WinkAndGinger at aol.com Tue Mar 17 07:18:58 2009 From: WinkAndGinger at aol.com (WinkAndGinger at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:18:58 EDT Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Message-ID: Hi Peter, Wink and Ginger, California Thanks, Wink & Ginger Thornton, Yucca Valley Ca., USA KG6TVW, KG6TVV The older the violin....the sweeter the music! ************** Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) From George_Best at adp.com Tue Mar 17 08:19:01 2009 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:19:01 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: <1237297534.10090.13.camel@hebe.cctechnol.com> References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> <1237297534.10090.13.camel@hebe.cctechnol.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590A42D371@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> I suppose this is a bit late, but I'm wondering why we're not just sending individual cards to Glenn. Seems that receiving 100 cards is better than getting a card with 100 names listed on it. Only cost 42 cents in the U.S. to mail a card to Glenn and the cost of the card is whatever you want to spend. This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From MBellar at aol.com Tue Mar 17 08:34:41 2009 From: MBellar at aol.com (MBellar at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:34:41 EDT Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Message-ID: In a message dated 3/16/2009 11:43:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, plowe at exemail.com.au writes: There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a good engine mate up and all join in. Peter; Please add Tom Bellar Cincinnati, Ohio Thank you; Tom **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219850974x1201371016/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62) From steve_royster at hotmail.com Tue Mar 17 08:59:11 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:59:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590A42D371@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> <1237297534.10090.13.camel@hebe.cctechnol.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590A42D371@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: George, I think we should do that as well as the big card. Could someone please post Glenns Address to the list? thanks Steve > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:19:01 -0500 > From: George_Best at adp.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Glenn Karch card > > I suppose this is a bit late, but I'm wondering why we're not just > sending individual cards to Glenn. Seems that receiving 100 cards is > better than getting a card with 100 names listed on it. Only cost 42 > cents in the U.S. to mail a card to Glenn and the cost of the card is > whatever you want to spend. > > > > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 From kkinney at herculesengines.com Tue Mar 17 09:15:05 2009 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:15:05 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> <1237297534.10090.13.camel@hebe.cctechnol.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590A42D371@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <42373055-A103-4365-AA05-6402E711C283@herculesengines.com> I'm sure cards would be appreciated. 20601 Old State Road Haubstadt, IN 47639 Keith On Mar 17, 2009, at 10:59 AM, Steve Royster wrote: > > George, I think we should do that as well as the big card. Could > someone please post Glenns Address to the list? thanks Steve > > > > > > > >> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:19:01 -0500 >> From: George_Best at adp.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Glenn Karch card >> >> I suppose this is a bit late, but I'm wondering why we're not just >> sending individual cards to Glenn. Seems that receiving 100 cards is >> better than getting a card with 100 names listed on it. Only cost 42 >> cents in the U.S. to mail a card to Glenn and the cost of the card is >> whatever you want to spend. >> >> >> >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups > to meet. > http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From jneth3 at mac.com Tue Mar 17 09:29:37 2009 From: jneth3 at mac.com (John Neth) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:29:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: <49BF4BE9.8050202@ncbb.net> References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe> <003701c9a6b5$048646d0$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <49BF4BE9.8050202@ncbb.net> Message-ID: Add John Neth , Johnson City Tennessee, USA Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2009, at 3:06 AM, norman karde wrote: > I will piggy back, Please add Norm Karde, Loomis California > > Peter Lowe wrote: >> Thanks Rck >> Peter >> >> >> >>> Add Rick Rowlands, Youngstown, OH to the card. >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peter Lowe" >>> To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" >>> >>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:36 PM >>> Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi All >>>> >>>> I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it >>>> tomorrow >>>> 4pm >>>> Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state >>>> to be >>>> included in the Card. >>>> There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a >>>> good >>>> engine mate up and all join in. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Peter Lowe >>>> R&V Engine Registrar >>>> Australia >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> --- >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 03/16/09 07 >> :04:00 >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Mar 17 11:11:17 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:11:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Logos for LIST In-Reply-To: <004601c9a702$d67c8df0$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> References: <193BE95AFBDC4C3B9E35D0A4EBEAA4AA@peterlowe> <004601c9a702$d67c8df0$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <08596dc610086c6790a335b75c45b7f9.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> http://www.oldengine.org/members/rotigel/SE_Logo/SE_Logo.html On Tue, March 17, 2009 9:18 am, Tod Engine Foundation wrote: > Speaking of the SEL logo, does anyone have a high resolution (300 dpi good > enough) digital image of the engine driven computer logo? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Mar 17 11:19:11 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:19:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request Message-ID: <396118548ad5fdd682a1251ea028bd26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Folks, I need your help. One of my power plant customers in Sweden recently had her daughter get married. Her daughter has had one of her wedding pictures selected for a "best bride picture" contest. I'd really appreciate it if y'all could help out with a little ballot box stuffing. At this point she just needs 25 more votes to take over the lead. She's picture #19 and really is a lovely bride and it is a very nice picture. You can only vote once from a given computer. 8-)) THANKS!! Arnie --------------------------------- Original Message --------------------------------- Best regards, Eva-Lena PS. My daughter is chosen to be in a competition with the best bride picture of the year:-) I would be very happy if you could give some votes from the US. The address is following http://www.brollopsmagasinet.se/?id=10554 and her picture is number 19. The pictures are further down on that page. --------------------------------- Original Message --------------------------------- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From rotigel at me.com Tue Mar 17 13:07:30 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:07:30 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request In-Reply-To: <396118548ad5fdd682a1251ea028bd26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <396118548ad5fdd682a1251ea028bd26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <22011C4C-C43F-4EB3-9ADB-974F3B57443F@me.com> Chick # 19 is now w/in 8 votes of being the LEADER. Last night I sent a request for votes for # 19 to most of those in my address boob. I urge you all to do the same--Arnie's job depends upon #19 winning this contest! Dave PS, EARLY AND OFTEN is fine, but it must be done from different 'puters! On Mar 17, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I need your help. One of my power plant customers in Sweden > recently had her > daughter get married. Her daughter has had one of her wedding > pictures selected > for a "best bride picture" contest. > > I'd really appreciate it if y'all could help out with a little > ballot box stuffing. > At this point she just needs 25 more votes to take over the lead. > > She's picture #19 and really is a lovely bride and it is a very nice > picture. You > can only vote once from a given computer. 8-)) > > THANKS!! Arnie > > --------------------------------- Original Message > --------------------------------- > > Best regards, Eva-Lena > > PS. My daughter is chosen to be in a competition with the best bride > picture of the > year:-) I would be very happy if you could give some votes from the > US. The address > is following http://www.brollopsmagasinet.se/?id=10554 and her > picture is number 19. > The pictures are further down on that page. > > --------------------------------- Original Message > --------------------------------- > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Mar 17 14:11:40 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:11:40 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card References: <48282E8C4624407CBE432B2620FB5D4E@peterlowe><1237297534.10090.13.camel@hebe.cctechnol.com> <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590A42D371@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: What ever you think is right George, this is just on behlaf of everyone Peter >I suppose this is a bit late, but I'm wondering why we're not just > sending individual cards to Glenn. Seems that receiving 100 cards is > better than getting a card with 100 names listed on it. Only cost 42 > cents in the U.S. to mail a card to Glenn and the cost of the card is > whatever you want to spend. > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please > notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments > from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Mar 17 14:22:09 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:22:09 +1100 Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request References: <396118548ad5fdd682a1251ea028bd26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <22011C4C-C43F-4EB3-9ADB-974F3B57443F@me.com> Message-ID: <93248E86DDC64333ACC53261057DBE48@peterlowe> I just voted 6 time myself, if you know how to do it. Peter > Chick # 19 is now w/in 8 votes of being the LEADER. Last night I sent > a request for votes for # 19 to most of those in my address boob. I > urge you all to do the same--Arnie's job depends upon #19 winning this > contest! > Dave > PS, EARLY AND OFTEN is fine, but it must be done from different 'puters! > > On Mar 17, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> I need your help. One of my power plant customers in Sweden >> recently had her >> daughter get married. Her daughter has had one of her wedding >> pictures selected >> for a "best bride picture" contest. >> >> I'd really appreciate it if y'all could help out with a little >> ballot box stuffing. >> At this point she just needs 25 more votes to take over the lead. >> >> She's picture #19 and really is a lovely bride and it is a very nice >> picture. You >> can only vote once from a given computer. 8-)) >> >> THANKS!! Arnie >> >> --------------------------------- Original Message >> --------------------------------- >> >> Best regards, Eva-Lena >> >> PS. My daughter is chosen to be in a competition with the best bride >> picture of the >> year:-) I would be very happy if you could give some votes from the >> US. The address >> is following http://www.brollopsmagasinet.se/?id=10554 and her >> picture is number 19. >> The pictures are further down on that page. >> >> --------------------------------- Original Message >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From frappi at wcoil.com Tue Mar 17 17:08:32 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:08:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request In-Reply-To: <93248E86DDC64333ACC53261057DBE48@peterlowe> References: <396118548ad5fdd682a1251ea028bd26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <22011C4C-C43F-4EB3-9ADB-974F3B57443F@me.com> <93248E86DDC64333ACC53261057DBE48@peterlowe> Message-ID: <20090318000830.7459D3A83E4@mail03.wcoil.com> Now shes 13 plus votes. At 05:22 PM 3/17/2009, you wrote: >I just voted 6 time myself, if you know how to do it. >Peter > > > Chick # 19 is now w/in 8 votes of being the LEADER. Last night I sent > > a request for votes for # 19 to most of those in my address boob. I > > urge you all to do the same--Arnie's job depends upon #19 winning this > > contest! > > Dave > > PS, EARLY AND OFTEN is fine, but it must be done from different 'puters! > > > > On Mar 17, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > > > >> Hi Folks, > >> > >> I need your help. One of my power plant customers in Sweden > >> recently had her > >> daughter get married. Her daughter has had one of her wedding > >> pictures selected > >> for a "best bride picture" contest. > >> > >> I'd really appreciate it if y'all could help out with a little > >> ballot box stuffing. > >> At this point she just needs 25 more votes to take over the lead. > >> > >> She's picture #19 and really is a lovely bride and it is a very nice > >> picture. You > >> can only vote once from a given computer. 8-)) > >> > >> THANKS!! Arnie > >> Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. Check out the Maytag Collectors Club web site www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Tue Mar 17 17:13:22 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:13:22 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request In-Reply-To: <93248E86DDC64333ACC53261057DBE48@peterlowe> References: <396118548ad5fdd682a1251ea028bd26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <22011C4C-C43F-4EB3-9ADB-974F3B57443F@me.com> <93248E86DDC64333ACC53261057DBE48@peterlowe> Message-ID: <20090318001319.21BAA3C0392@mail02.wcoil.com> Sombody needs to vote for poor # 23 just so they don't get skunked. They have no votes. I tried to vote again without luck, how did you vote multiple times Peter?? Mark At 05:22 PM 3/17/2009, you wrote: >I just voted 6 time myself, if you know how to do it. >Peter > > > > > > Chick # 19 is now w/in 8 votes of being the LEADER. Last night I sent > > a request for votes for # 19 to most of those in my address boob. I > > urge you all to do the same--Arnie's job depends upon #19 winning this > > contest! > > Dave > > PS, EARLY AND OFTEN is fine, but it must be done from different 'puters! > > > > On Mar 17, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > > > >> Hi Folks, > >> > >> I need your help. One of my power plant customers in Sweden > >> recently had her > >> daughter get married. Her daughter has had one of her wedding > >> pictures selected > >> for a "best bride picture" contest. > >> > >> I'd really appreciate it if y'all could help out with a little > >> ballot box stuffing. > >> At this point she just needs 25 more votes to take over the lead. > >> > >> She's picture #19 and really is a lovely bride and it is a very nice > >> picture. You > >> can only vote once from a given computer. 8-)) > >> > >> THANKS!! Arnie > >> > >> --------------------------------- Original Message > >> --------------------------------- > >> > >> Best regards, Eva-Lena > >> > >> PS. My daughter is chosen to be in a competition with the best bride > >> picture of the > >> year:-) I would be very happy if you could give some votes from the > >> US. The address > >> is following http://www.brollopsmagasinet.se/?id=10554 and her > >> picture is number 19. > >> The pictures are further down on that page. > >> > >> --------------------------------- Original Message > >> --------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> -- > >> This message has been scanned for viruses and > >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > >> believed to be clean. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: >03/17/09 07:23:00 Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. Check out the Maytag Collectors Club web site www.Maytagclub.com From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Mar 17 17:50:17 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:50:17 +1100 Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request References: <396118548ad5fdd682a1251ea028bd26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><22011C4C-C43F-4EB3-9ADB-974F3B57443F@me.com><93248E86DDC64333ACC53261057DBE48@peterlowe> <20090318001319.21BAA3C0392@mail02.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <09FEDAA5060B4B40B03FFDA946FCB4CA@peterlowe> Dump your cookies, dump your temp internet files and history, refresh page and vote. I have given her 8 votes, that is all the time I have now. Peter > Sombody needs to vote for poor # 23 just so they don't get skunked. > They have no votes. I tried to vote again without luck, how did you > vote multiple times Peter?? Mark > > > > At 05:22 PM 3/17/2009, you wrote: >>I just voted 6 time myself, if you know how to do it. >>Peter >> >> >> >> >> > Chick # 19 is now w/in 8 votes of being the LEADER. Last night I sent >> > a request for votes for # 19 to most of those in my address boob. I >> > urge you all to do the same--Arnie's job depends upon #19 winning this >> > contest! >> > Dave >> > PS, EARLY AND OFTEN is fine, but it must be done from different >> > 'puters! >> > >> > On Mar 17, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Folks, >> >> >> >> I need your help. One of my power plant customers in Sweden >> >> recently had her >> >> daughter get married. Her daughter has had one of her wedding >> >> pictures selected >> >> for a "best bride picture" contest. >> >> >> >> I'd really appreciate it if y'all could help out with a little >> >> ballot box stuffing. >> >> At this point she just needs 25 more votes to take over the lead. >> >> >> >> She's picture #19 and really is a lovely bride and it is a very nice >> >> picture. You >> >> can only vote once from a given computer. 8-)) >> >> >> >> THANKS!! Arnie >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- Original Message >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Best regards, Eva-Lena >> >> >> >> PS. My daughter is chosen to be in a competition with the best bride >> >> picture of the >> >> year:-) I would be very happy if you could give some votes from the >> >> US. The address >> >> is following http://www.brollopsmagasinet.se/?id=10554 and her >> >> picture is number 19. >> >> The pictures are further down on that page. >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- Original Message >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> >> believed to be clean. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SEL mailing list >> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SEL mailing list >> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: >>03/17/09 07:23:00 > > Mark Shulaw > 454 Co. Rd. 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > Check out the Maytag Collectors Club web site www.Maytagclub.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 17 18:14:00 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:14:00 -0600 Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request References: <396118548ad5fdd682a1251ea028bd26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <349E18BF7B0F404590DB368718C2053E@PAUL> Done Arnie, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Fero" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request > Hi Folks, > > I need your help. One of my power plant customers in Sweden recently had > her > daughter get married. Her daughter has had one of her wedding pictures > selected > for a "best bride picture" contest. > > I'd really appreciate it if y'all could help out with a little ballot box > stuffing. > At this point she just needs 25 more votes to take over the lead. > > She's picture #19 and really is a lovely bride and it is a very nice > picture. You > can only vote once from a given computer. 8-)) > > THANKS!! Arnie > > --------------------------------- Original > Message --------------------------------- > > Best regards, Eva-Lena > > PS. My daughter is chosen to be in a competition with the best bride > picture of the > year:-) I would be very happy if you could give some votes from the US. > The address > is following http://www.brollopsmagasinet.se/?id=10554 and her picture is > number 19. > The pictures are further down on that page. > > --------------------------------- Original > Message --------------------------------- > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Tue Mar 17 18:23:20 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:23:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request In-Reply-To: <20090318001319.21BAA3C0392@mail02.wcoil.com> References: <396118548ad5fdd682a1251ea028bd26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <22011C4C-C43F-4EB3-9ADB-974F3B57443F@me.com> <93248E86DDC64333ACC53261057DBE48@peterlowe> <20090318001319.21BAA3C0392@mail02.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <85A55C3C-4DCD-4F15-BE4E-200E74D2F4C6@me.com> My understanding is that you need "multiple peters" to do so! Dave On Mar 17, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Mark Shulaw wrote: > ......., how did you > vote multiple times Peter?? Mark > > > > At 05:22 PM 3/17/2009, you wrote: >> I just voted 6 time myself, if you know how to do it. >> Peter >> >> >> >> >>> Chick # 19 is now w/in 8 votes of being the LEADER. Last night I >>> sent >>> a request for votes for # 19 to most of those in my address boob. I >>> urge you all to do the same--Arnie's job depends upon #19 winning >>> this >>> contest! >>> Dave >>> PS, EARLY AND OFTEN is fine, but it must be done from different >>> 'puters! >>> >>> On Mar 17, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Folks, >>>> >>>> I need your help. One of my power plant customers in Sweden >>>> recently had her >>>> daughter get married. Her daughter has had one of her wedding >>>> pictures selected >>>> for a "best bride picture" contest. >>>> >>>> I'd really appreciate it if y'all could help out with a little >>>> ballot box stuffing. >>>> At this point she just needs 25 more votes to take over the lead. >>>> >>>> She's picture #19 and really is a lovely bride and it is a very >>>> nice >>>> picture. You >>>> can only vote once from a given computer. 8-)) >>>> >>>> THANKS!! Arnie >>>> >>>> --------------------------------- Original Message >>>> --------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Best regards, Eva-Lena >>>> >>>> PS. My daughter is chosen to be in a competition with the best >>>> bride >>>> picture of the >>>> year:-) I would be very happy if you could give some votes from the >>>> US. The address >>>> is following http://www.brollopsmagasinet.se/?id=10554 and her >>>> picture is number 19. >>>> The pictures are further down on that page. >>>> >>>> --------------------------------- Original Message >>>> --------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>>> believed to be clean. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: >> 03/17/09 07:23:00 > > Mark Shulaw > 454 Co. Rd. 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > Check out the Maytag Collectors Club web site www.Maytagclub.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mrengine at comcast.net Tue Mar 17 18:33:34 2009 From: mrengine at comcast.net (mrengine at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1390868507.8340451237340014802.JavaMail.root@sz0012a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Please add Frank Brymer Knoxville TN USA Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Neth" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:29:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Add John Neth , Johnson City Tennessee, USA Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2009, at 3:06 AM, norman karde wrote: > I will piggy back, Please add Norm Karde, Loomis California > > Peter Lowe wrote: >> Thanks Rck >> Peter >> >> >> >>> Add Rick Rowlands, Youngstown, OH to the card. >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peter Lowe" >>> To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" >>> >>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:36 PM >>> Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi All >>>> >>>> I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it ? >>>> tomorrow >>>> 4pm >>>> Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state ? >>>> to be >>>> included in the Card. >>>> There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a ? >>>> good >>>> engine mate up and all join in. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Peter Lowe >>>> R&V Engine Registrar >>>> Australia >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> --- >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 03/16/09 07 >> :04:00 >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Tue Mar 17 18:35:04 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:35:04 +1100 Subject: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request References: <396118548ad5fdd682a1251ea028bd26.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><22011C4C-C43F-4EB3-9ADB-974F3B57443F@me.com><93248E86DDC64333ACC53261057DBE48@peterlowe><20090318001319.21BAA3C0392@mail02.wcoil.com> <85A55C3C-4DCD-4F15-BE4E-200E74D2F4C6@me.com> Message-ID: <7E103ECAFCDE46A1897CD7B644D9F3C7@peterlowe> I am in a room with 8 computers Peter > My understanding is that you need "multiple peters" to do so! > Dave > > On Mar 17, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Mark Shulaw wrote: > >> ......., how did you >> vote multiple times Peter?? Mark >> >> >> >> At 05:22 PM 3/17/2009, you wrote: >>> I just voted 6 time myself, if you know how to do it. >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Chick # 19 is now w/in 8 votes of being the LEADER. Last night I >>>> sent >>>> a request for votes for # 19 to most of those in my address boob. I >>>> urge you all to do the same--Arnie's job depends upon #19 winning >>>> this >>>> contest! >>>> Dave >>>> PS, EARLY AND OFTEN is fine, but it must be done from different >>>> 'puters! >>>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Folks, >>>>> >>>>> I need your help. One of my power plant customers in Sweden >>>>> recently had her >>>>> daughter get married. Her daughter has had one of her wedding >>>>> pictures selected >>>>> for a "best bride picture" contest. >>>>> >>>>> I'd really appreciate it if y'all could help out with a little >>>>> ballot box stuffing. >>>>> At this point she just needs 25 more votes to take over the lead. >>>>> >>>>> She's picture #19 and really is a lovely bride and it is a very >>>>> nice >>>>> picture. You >>>>> can only vote once from a given computer. 8-)) >>>>> >>>>> THANKS!! Arnie >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------- Original Message >>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, Eva-Lena >>>>> >>>>> PS. My daughter is chosen to be in a competition with the best >>>>> bride >>>>> picture of the >>>>> year:-) I would be very happy if you could give some votes from the >>>>> US. The address >>>>> is following http://www.brollopsmagasinet.se/?id=10554 and her >>>>> picture is number 19. >>>>> The pictures are further down on that page. >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------- Original Message >>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>>>> believed to be clean. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SEL mailing list >>>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.16/2006 - Release Date: >>> 03/17/09 07:23:00 >> >> Mark Shulaw >> 454 Co. Rd. 33 >> Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA >> >> Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. >> Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. >> Check out the Maytag Collectors Club web site www.Maytagclub.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From kerogas at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 17 20:04:29 2009 From: kerogas at sbcglobal.net (Chuck Balyeat) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:04:29 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Hart, TX auction References: Message-ID: <00fb01c9a776$414ee9c0$1001a8c0@gatewayf7e8d8b> It's 653 miles for me, but only 584 for Chuck. Maybe he can run up there... Bruce Younger //// Jiminy........ just look at the pivots ! http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=plainview%20texas&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Tue Mar 17 21:04:58 2009 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:04:58 EDT Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Message-ID: Add Kevin Kusel New Jersey at BIGFLYWHEEL.COM In a message dated 3/17/2009 9:43:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mrengine at comcast.net writes: Please add Frank Brymer Knoxville TN USA Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Neth" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:29:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [SEL] Glenn Karch card Add John Neth , Johnson City Tennessee, USA Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2009, at 3:06 AM, norman karde wrote: > I will piggy back, Please add Norm Karde, Loomis California > > Peter Lowe wrote: >> Thanks Rck >> Peter >> >> >> >>> Add Rick Rowlands, Youngstown, OH to the card. >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peter Lowe" >>> To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" >>> >>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:36 PM >>> Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch card >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi All >>>> >>>> I have 66 names and states from List members, I am posting it >>>> tomorrow >>>> 4pm >>>> Australian time so you have 14 hrs to give me your name and state >>>> to be >>>> included in the Card. >>>> There are more than 66 LIST members on both LISTS to lets cheer a >>>> good >>>> engine mate up and all join in. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Peter Lowe >>>> R&V Engine Registrar >>>> Australia >>>> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> --- >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2004 - Release Date: 03/16/09 07 >> :04:00 >> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) From kkinney at herculesengines.com Tue Mar 17 21:22:39 2009 From: kkinney at herculesengines.com (Keith Kinney) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:22:39 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch update In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20090311103129.03d77fb8@pop.att.yahoo.com> References: <0A0EF5F642EA448EA2B568E1B09B4D43@peterlowe> <925070.4619.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20090311103129.03d77fb8@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello all. I talked to Glenn's wife, Marian, today to see how they were doing. She said it would be OK to update you all on his health. To bring you up to date on what has been going on. The first Glenn knew he had a problem was the first week of October. On a Wednesday or Thursday morning Glenn and Marian were packing the car to travel to the Cotton Ginning Days show in Gastonia, NC. Things were going fine when he approached Marian unable to speak understandably. He knew what he wanted to say but couldn't get the words out. He finally got a pencil and paper and wrote a note for Marian to call an ambulance. We were going to Cotton Ginning Days too and got a call from their son saying that they wouldn't be able to attend the show as his dad was in the hospital with a suspected stroke. Over the next week or two it was determined that it was probably not a stroke as they had found 3 lesions in his brain. His speech returned to normal after a few days and he appeared to be in pretty good health until a month or two ago when he lost his appetite, had little energy, and had trouble concentrating. He went through a long round of chemo and radiation treatments which ended about a month ago which hopefully are the cause of his symptoms. The good news is that the MRI he had a couple of weeks ago showed that the tumors have not grown since the previous MRI which had been done before his round of chemo and radiation treatments. Glenn seems to be doing a little better the last few days being more mobile, watching some TV and having a better appetite. He started a new round of chemo this week. It is a 6 month treatment where he takes a chemo pill everyday for a week then none for 3 weeks then pills for another week, etc. One reason he has not been one the list for a while is that either the tumors or the treatments has affected his eye site and it is difficult for him to read the screen, newspaper, etc. Today he had an eye doctors appointment and they found that his eye sight has changed and they have ordered him some new glasses which hopefully will help this problem. Marian said he is board from being confined to the house but doesn't fill well enough to go out to the shop. Hopefully this will bring everyone up to speed on what's going on with Glenn. I plan to print off some of the messages that have been posted here and share with Glenn when I visit in a few days. Keep the prayers coming . Keith > Keith Kinney kkinney at herculesengines.com WWW.HerculesEngines.com From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 00:03:11 2009 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:03:11 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch update In-Reply-To: References: <0A0EF5F642EA448EA2B568E1B09B4D43@peterlowe> <925070.4619.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20090311103129.03d77fb8@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160903180003j4608b75fk77ed179a931c1a62@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/18 Keith Kinney : > Hello all. > > I talked to Glenn's wife, Marian, today to see how they were doing. ?She > said it would be OK to update you all on his health. Thanks for the update, keith, much appreciated. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 18 04:40:52 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 05:40:52 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch update References: <0A0EF5F642EA448EA2B568E1B09B4D43@peterlowe><925070.4619.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6.0.1.1.2.20090311103129.03d77fb8@pop.att.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <690CDE56D010442C91DC8F74985AF5AD@PAUL> Thanks Keith for the update on our friend Glenn. Please tell Glenn that we are al pulling for him and that he and his family will be in our constant prayers asking the Great Physician to heal Glenn and to take care of his family through this ordeal. "Holy Father, we ask that you apply your healing hands to Glenn, that Father you would remove this cancer from his body, restore his health and give us back a Glenn who is well and healthy and who has been a such a friend to all of us. We ask that you provide support and a peace that surpasses all understanding to his wife and family as they stand by him through this. Father, you tell us in your Holy Word that we have not because we ask not, so I, in company with all of his friends and family, now ask that You restore Glenn's health to him and we will give You all the Glory" Amen Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Kinney" To: ; "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:22 PM Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch update > Hello all. > > I talked to Glenn's wife, Marian, today to see how they were doing. > She said it would be OK to update you all on his health. > > To bring you up to date on what has been going on. The first Glenn > knew he had a problem was the first week of October. On a Wednesday > or Thursday morning Glenn and Marian were packing the car to travel to > the Cotton Ginning Days show in Gastonia, NC. Things were going fine > when he approached Marian unable to speak understandably. He knew > what he wanted to say but couldn't get the words out. He finally got > a pencil and paper and wrote a note for Marian to call an ambulance. > We were going to Cotton Ginning Days too and got a call from their son > saying that they wouldn't be able to attend the show as his dad was in > the hospital with a suspected stroke. Over the next week or two it > was determined that it was probably not a stroke as they had found 3 > lesions in his brain. His speech returned to normal after a few days > and he appeared to be in pretty good health until a month or two ago > when he lost his appetite, had little energy, and had trouble > concentrating. He went through a long round of chemo and radiation > treatments which ended about a month ago which hopefully are the cause > of his symptoms. > > The good news is that the MRI he had a couple of weeks ago showed that > the tumors have not grown since the previous MRI which had been done > before his round of chemo and radiation treatments. > > Glenn seems to be doing a little better the last few days being more > mobile, watching some TV and having a better appetite. He started a > new round of chemo this week. It is a 6 month treatment where he > takes a chemo pill everyday for a week then none for 3 weeks then > pills for another week, etc. > > One reason he has not been one the list for a while is that either the > tumors or the treatments has affected his eye site and it is difficult > for him to read the screen, newspaper, etc. Today he had an eye > doctors appointment and they found that his eye sight has changed and > they have ordered him some new glasses which hopefully will help this > problem. > > Marian said he is board from being confined to the house but doesn't > fill well enough to go out to the shop. > > Hopefully this will bring everyone up to speed on what's going on with > Glenn. I plan to print off some of the messages that have been posted > here and share with Glenn when I visit in a few days. Keep the > prayers coming . > > Keith >> > > Keith Kinney > kkinney at herculesengines.com > WWW.HerculesEngines.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Mar 18 05:24:02 2009 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:24:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch update In-Reply-To: <690CDE56D010442C91DC8F74985AF5AD@PAUL> Message-ID: Thanks Keith for the update. We'll add Glenn to our prayer list at church. Glenn contacted me around the first of the year in regards to a part I was going to borrow from him. He told me I should come on down and get it to have it copied. He didn't mention any problems when we talked. Its good to hear that the Drs. are pleased with his progress. We pray it continues. Tommy Turner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Kinney" To: ; "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:22 PM Subject: [SEL] Glenn Karch update > Hello all. > > I talked to Glenn's wife, Marian, today to see how they were doing. > She said it would be OK to update you all on his health. > > To bring you up to date on what has been going on. The first Glenn > knew he had a problem was the first week of October. On a Wednesday > or Thursday morning Glenn and Marian were packing the car to travel to > the Cotton Ginning Days show in Gastonia, NC. Things were going fine > when he approached Marian unable to speak understandably. He knew > what he wanted to say but couldn't get the words out. He finally got > a pencil and paper and wrote a note for Marian to call an ambulance. > We were going to Cotton Ginning Days too and got a call from their son > saying that they wouldn't be able to attend the show as his dad was in > the hospital with a suspected stroke. Over the next week or two it > was determined that it was probably not a stroke as they had found 3 > lesions in his brain. His speech returned to normal after a few days > and he appeared to be in pretty good health until a month or two ago > when he lost his appetite, had little energy, and had trouble > concentrating. He went through a long round of chemo and radiation > treatments which ended about a month ago which hopefully are the cause > of his symptoms. > > The good news is that the MRI he had a couple of weeks ago showed that > the tumors have not grown since the previous MRI which had been done > before his round of chemo and radiation treatments. > > Glenn seems to be doing a little better the last few days being more > mobile, watching some TV and having a better appetite. He started a > new round of chemo this week. It is a 6 month treatment where he > takes a chemo pill everyday for a week then none for 3 weeks then > pills for another week, etc. > > One reason he has not been one the list for a while is that either the > tumors or the treatments has affected his eye site and it is difficult > for him to read the screen, newspaper, etc. Today he had an eye > doctors appointment and they found that his eye sight has changed and > they have ordered him some new glasses which hopefully will help this > problem. > > Marian said he is board from being confined to the house but doesn't > fill well enough to go out to the shop. > > Hopefully this will bring everyone up to speed on what's going on with > Glenn. I plan to print off some of the messages that have been posted > here and share with Glenn when I visit in a few days. Keep the > prayers coming . > > Keith >> > > Keith Kinney > kkinney at herculesengines.com > WWW.HerculesEngines.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Mar 18 10:55:32 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:55:32 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 60, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090318195303.029aca90@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 18/03/2009, you wrote: >Message: 10 >Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:50:17 +1100 >From: "Peter Lowe" >Subject: Re: [SEL] OFF TOPIC - Ballot Box Stuffing Request > >Dump your cookies, dump your temp internet files and history, refresh page >and vote. I have given her 8 votes, that is all the time I have now. >Peter. Thanks Peter, I've copied this to the Slick and Oldengine lists as well - there is also a lot of activity there and I think that your advice will be put to good use. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 18 17:36:27 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:36:27 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Message-ID: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What would be the dimensions of this box? Thanks, Paul From MaytagTwin at aol.com Wed Mar 18 17:50:45 2009 From: MaytagTwin at aol.com (MaytagTwin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:50:45 EDT Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Message-ID: In a message dated 3/18/2009 7:43:28 PM Central Daylight Time, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net writes: Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What would be the dimensions of this box? Thanks, Paul Hi Paul, If you make each inside dimension 1.5874 feet the volume will be 3.999992 cubic feet. Is that close enough for your work? Ron **************Great Deals on Dell 15" Laptops - Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433363x1201394532/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doub leclick.net%2Fclk%3B212935224%3B34245239%3Bb) From james.kangas at timken.com Wed Mar 18 17:51:13 2009 From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:51:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: A box two feet by two feet by one foot deep would work.Just imagine four blocks that are one foot by one foot by one foot. Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sent: Wed 3/18/2009 8:36 PM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What would be the dimensions of this box? Thanks, Paul _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Wed Mar 18 17:53:35 2009 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:53:35 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: <020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> 1x1x4 or 2x2x1 will get you there ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What > would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Mar 18 17:54:56 2009 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:54:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: 3 feet tall by 6 feet square. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What would be the dimensions of this box? Thanks, Paul _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Mar 18 18:55:36 2009 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:55:36 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Kohler ID Message-ID: <20090318.175537.1516.3.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi all. Can any of you list members tell me the HP of a Kohler single vertical cylinder air cooled engine with these numbers on the ID tag? 2007158 on top and 47238B below. Thanks. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Digital Photography - Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTDvmQDQwA1F5OdahrpuOo1wg9sX3Zyz11pyWXW66iX2BlRU4f53rS/ From al.harris at rustic-engines.com Wed Mar 18 18:07:21 2009 From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:07:21 +1100 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: <49C19AC9.5030805@rustic-engines.com> 2x2x1 Cheers, Al Harris Summer Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 18 18:09:31 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:09:31 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: <8B232BB6-C8EA-4D61-9909-EA835F036427@me.com> Hi Paul, There is an INFINITE number of solutions to your question! Dave PS, Two by one by two would be one of them. One by two by two would be another. Two by two by one would be, yet, a third. PPS, I don't have the time to figure out all the other possibilities-- perhaps Arnie can do that at work tomorrow! PPPS, Give Arnie a bit of help an tell him ONE of the dimensions. PPPPS, If you provide Arnie with TWO of the dimensions then there is ONLY ONE solution to your inquiry! PPPPPS, Arnie--rotsa ruck! On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:36 PM, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. > What would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Wed Mar 18 18:09:44 2009 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:09:44 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: Message-ID: <021f01c9a82f$63ea5280$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Tommy you just built a two cubic yard box! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >3 feet tall by 6 feet square. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of > paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What > would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Wed Mar 18 18:10:12 2009 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:10:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: Message-ID: <022201c9a82f$748544b0$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Four cubic yards I mean! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >3 feet tall by 6 feet square. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of > paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What > would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 18 18:12:09 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:12:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <346C4088-F252-426B-9E5A-87612BF1917C@me.com> ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dave PS, Tommy to replace RBG when she turns ROOM TEMPERATURE! On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:54 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > 3 feet tall by 6 feet square. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of > paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What > would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 18 18:12:51 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:12:51 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, compost, sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my raised beds in the garden and I needed a way to measure out the material. The idea is you measure out the various materials per the recipe and pour them onto a large 12' X 12' tarp and then get two people, one on each side and you roll the material back and forth over itself until it is well mixed and then put it in the beds. Thanks for the help. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tod Engine Foundation" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > 1x1x4 or > 2x2x1 will get you there > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >> would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 18 18:15:00 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:15:00 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <8B232BB6-C8EA-4D61-9909-EA835F036427@me.com> Message-ID: <5FD70D4D96F94ECAAE33E9EB72D26151@PAUL> Dave I was waiting on your illustrious reply as I just knew it would be forthcoming. I appreciate your help. I will not bother Arnie with this delicate issue now as he is caught up in the ballot stuffing for the Swedish bride and would not have time to apply atomic ciphering to this. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Hi Paul, There is an INFINITE number of solutions to your question! > Dave > PS, Two by one by two would be one of them. One by two by two would be > another. Two by two by one would be, yet, a third. > PPS, I don't have the time to figure out all the other possibilities-- > perhaps Arnie can do that at work tomorrow! > PPPS, Give Arnie a bit of help an tell him ONE of the dimensions. > PPPPS, If you provide Arnie with TWO of the dimensions then there is > ONLY ONE solution to your inquiry! > PPPPPS, Arnie--rotsa ruck! > > On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:36 PM, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. >> What would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, > > From edstoller at earthlink.net Wed Mar 18 18:17:29 2009 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:17:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: <8575EFE43AEB45F28103B903DEC241F9@Ed> Paul, Try 2 ' X 2 'X 1 '. But, if you wanted to make a cylindered " box"" it would be 2 ' 3" in diameter and 1 foot high. Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What > would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 18 18:14:58 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:14:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: <40C2E55B-E282-4D0A-8FEA-A9D0BB61C5B2@me.com> And keep in mind--WHAT YOU CAN IMAGINE YOU CAN BE! Dave On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:51 PM, Kangas, James G. wrote: > A box two feet by two feet by one foot deep would work.Just imagine > four blocks that are one foot by one foot by one foot. > Jim K. > > ________________________________ > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Wed 3/18/2009 8:36 PM > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. > What would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or > entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please > do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to > others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, > and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The > Timken Corporation _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 18 18:16:13 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:16:13 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <022201c9a82f$748544b0$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: I thought there was a hitch in that measurement. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tod Engine Foundation" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Four cubic yards I mean! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judge Tommy Turner" > To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:54 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >>3 feet tall by 6 feet square. >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of >> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >> would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 18 18:19:37 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:19:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <021f01c9a82f$63ea5280$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> References: <021f01c9a82f$63ea5280$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <535BFB3E-91D3-456F-AC8C-EF2870169406@me.com> WOULD THAT BE THE SAME AS 54 CUBIC FEET? Dave On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Tod Engine Foundation wrote: > Tommy you just built a two cubic yard box! > > Rick > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judge Tommy Turner" > To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" engine.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:54 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> 3 feet tall by 6 feet square. >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of >> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >> would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From blcksmth at wcnet.org Wed Mar 18 18:20:01 2009 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:20:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: <482CB107EA3C465D85949296E806AF28@Eagle> How about 2' X 2' X 1'. Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What would be the dimensions of this box? Thanks, Paul _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Mar 18 18:26:28 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:26:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: <002601c9a831$bd426a00$66674b47@mikecomp> No No No, my brother Steve (the custom home builder) said it would be 4x5x6. Plus it will cost $242.00 a square foot to build and it will take him 3 months, plus engineering fees, architectural drawings and a rain clause. It also wouldn't hurt if doughnuts and coffee found their way to the job site daily, along with tacos and burritos for lunch. Best always! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What > would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Wed Mar 18 18:32:59 2009 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:32:59 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL><020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <024b01c9a832$a3450350$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> I would probably use the five gallon bucket as the standard of measurement for your application. I don't know how many cubic feet a bucket is, and I'm not dressed to go out and find one to measure one right now. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, > compost, > sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my raised > beds in the garden and I needed a way to measure out the material. The > idea > is you measure out the various materials per the recipe and pour them onto > a > large 12' X 12' tarp and then get two people, one on each side and you > roll > the material back and forth over itself until it is well mixed and then > put > it in the beds. > > Thanks for the help. > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tod Engine Foundation" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:53 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> 1x1x4 or >> 2x2x1 will get you there >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >>> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >>> would be the dimensions of this box? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 18 18:33:31 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:33:31 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <8575EFE43AEB45F28103B903DEC241F9@Ed> Message-ID: Thanks Ed, I think I have got it now as the boys have been sending me all sorts of options. I just posted a message of what I am trying to do and why I need this box. Man O Man, just a simple O.T has awaken the SEL members, getting a flood of responses which is great. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed stoller" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Paul, > > Try 2 ' X 2 'X 1 '. > > But, if you wanted to make a cylindered " box"" it would be 2 ' 3" in > diameter and 1 foot high. > > Ed Stoller > New Fairfield, CT > http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >> would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 18 18:37:23 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:37:23 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <002601c9a831$bd426a00$66674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <3B37518F2A33473693B2A72A2D2295CC@PAUL> Darn it Mike, just when I though I had this situation under control you come along and drop a bomb on my head. Since I have helped bail out every CEO and EXEC in the country I may have to forget this project as $242.00 is a little stiff for this poor ole Southern Boy. Sure hate to get this message, I thought I was going to be able to build me a little plywood box and get on with the project, I never figured in all of these extra fees and benefits, it is enough to make a good man cry. Sad and Broken Hearted in the South, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > No No No, my brother Steve (the custom home builder) said it would be > 4x5x6. Plus it will cost $242.00 a square foot to build and it will take > him 3 months, plus engineering fees, architectural drawings and a rain > clause. It also wouldn't hurt if doughnuts and coffee found their way to > the job site daily, along with tacos and burritos for lunch. > > Best always! > > MR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >> would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From al.harris at rustic-engines.com Wed Mar 18 18:38:46 2009 From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:38:46 +1100 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <535BFB3E-91D3-456F-AC8C-EF2870169406@me.com> References: <021f01c9a82f$63ea5280$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <535BFB3E-91D3-456F-AC8C-EF2870169406@me.com> Message-ID: <49C1A226.4050108@rustic-engines.com> 108 - I believe. Although I am getting confused here. Cheers, Al Harris Summer Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com David Rotigel wrote: > WOULD THAT BE THE SAME AS 54 CUBIC FEET? > Dave > > On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Tod Engine Foundation wrote: > > >> Tommy you just built a two cubic yard box! >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" > engine.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:54 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >> >>> 3 feet tall by 6 feet square. >>> >>> Tommy Turner >>> Magnolia, KY >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of >>> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >>> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >>> >>> >>> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >>> would be the dimensions of this box? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> > From gastzt at aol.com Wed Mar 18 18:39:09 2009 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:39:09 EDT Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Message-ID: This make GOOD insulation for a 8hp Stover engine--will keep it QUIETER! ha Stan **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) From james.kangas at timken.com Wed Mar 18 18:49:08 2009 From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:49:08 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <40C2E55B-E282-4D0A-8FEA-A9D0BB61C5B2@me.com> Message-ID: Yes I know,nothing is impossible if you can imagine it, too bad imagination is becoming so scarce. Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of David Rotigel Sent: Wed 3/18/2009 9:14 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert And keep in mind--WHAT YOU CAN IMAGINE YOU CAN BE! Dave On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:51 PM, Kangas, James G. wrote: > A box two feet by two feet by one foot deep would work.Just imagine > four blocks that are one foot by one foot by one foot. > Jim K. > > ________________________________ > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Wed 3/18/2009 8:36 PM > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. > What would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or > entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please > do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to > others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, > and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The > Timken Corporation _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 18 18:53:28 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:53:28 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL><020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <024b01c9a832$a3450350$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: Rick according to my input 1 cu ft = 7.48 gal so this would not be practical for me, I wish it was. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tod Engine Foundation" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >I would probably use the five gallon bucket as the standard of measurement > for your application. I don't know how many cubic feet a bucket is, and > I'm not dressed to go out and find one to measure one right now. > > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:12 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > From MaytagTwin at aol.com Wed Mar 18 18:54:05 2009 From: MaytagTwin at aol.com (MaytagTwin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:54:05 EDT Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Message-ID: In a message dated 3/18/2009 8:43:37 PM Central Daylight Time, rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com writes: I would probably use the five gallon bucket as the standard of measurement for your application. I don't know how many cubic feet a bucket is, and I'm not dressed to go out and find one to measure one right now. Rick Hi Rick, You can use this conversion factor: gallons (USA) cubic feet x 0.1337 take your 5 gallon bucket times 0.1337 to arrive at 0.6685 cubic feet. I think your idea of using a bucket as the standard is excellent as it doesn't weigh as much as a full cubic foot plus it comes with a handle and is readily available at little or no cost. Since the formula calls for cubic feet units, a five gallon bucket can be substituted so long as the bucket is used for each ingredient. Ron **************Great Deals on Dell 15" Laptops - Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433363x1201394532/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doub leclick.net%2Fclk%3B212935224%3B34245239%3Bb) From riga_fire at yahoo.com Wed Mar 18 18:54:14 2009 From: riga_fire at yahoo.com (Paul Russell) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <702837.35705.qm@web31802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Wouldn't it be easier to figure the ratio and use the five gallon bucket? ________________________________ From: "paulmaples at sbcglobal.net" To: The SEL email discussion list Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:12:51 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, compost, sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my raised beds in the garden and I needed a way to measure out the material. The idea is you measure out the various materials per the recipe and pour them onto a large 12' X 12' tarp and then get two people, one on each side and you roll the material back and forth over itself until it is well mixed and then put it in the beds. Thanks for the help. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tod Engine Foundation" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > 1x1x4 or > 2x2x1 will get you there > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >> would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Mar 18 19:08:53 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:08:53 -0700 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: Cube root of four Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com On Mar 18, 2009, at 5:36 PM, wrote: > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. > What would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Mar 18 19:09:00 2009 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:09:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <535BFB3E-91D3-456F-AC8C-EF2870169406@me.com> Message-ID: No Rick, a box 6 feet wide by 6 feet long (6 feet square in other words) by 3 feet high is 4 cubic yards. I thought he was asking for yards (I didn't carefully read the question where he asked for cubic feet). The ice storm has left a tremendous amount of limb and brush debris around here. All the companies cleaning up have quoted me a price per cubic yard to clean up my place. I guess I had yards on the mind. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:20 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert WOULD THAT BE THE SAME AS 54 CUBIC FEET? Dave On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Tod Engine Foundation wrote: > Tommy you just built a two cubic yard box! > > Rick > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judge Tommy Turner" > To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" engine.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:54 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> 3 feet tall by 6 feet square. >> >> Tommy Turner >> Magnolia, KY >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of >> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >> would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From briwatt at optusnet.com.au Wed Mar 18 19:14:03 2009 From: briwatt at optusnet.com.au (Brian Watts) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:14:03 +1100 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL><020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <702837.35705.qm@web31802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49D481C6AB124AC5B02264E21599FE82@bd32d875216e74> cut the bucket and reshape in one foot square box.? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Russell" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Wouldn't it be easier to figure the ratio and use the five gallon bucket? > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "paulmaples at sbcglobal.net" > To: The SEL email discussion list > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:12:51 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, > compost, > sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my raised > beds in the garden and I needed a way to measure out the material. The > idea > is you measure out the various materials per the recipe and pour them onto > a > large 12' X 12' tarp and then get two people, one on each side and you > roll > the material back and forth over itself until it is well mixed and then > put > it in the beds. > > Thanks for the help. > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tod Engine Foundation" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:53 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> 1x1x4 or >> 2x2x1 will get you there >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >>> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >>> would be the dimensions of this box? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bee_keeper at earthlink.net Wed Mar 18 19:14:48 2009 From: bee_keeper at earthlink.net (Lew Best) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:14:48 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL><020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <024b01c9a832$a3450350$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <00a601c9a838$7f8fb850$7eaf28f0$@net> Maybe more practical than you think; 1.5 buckets awful close to 1 cuft so 6 buckets=4 about cuft :) Lew -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Rick according to my input 1 cu ft = 7.48 gal so this would not be practical for me, I wish it was. Paul From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Mar 18 19:17:54 2009 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:17:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <560C81354AFD4EE9AFC0FB1B9D3EA78B@tommydk7hxjr4h> Are you speaking of Imperial or US Gallons? Gallons by volume or weight? I have to make a gas tank for a small engine and I'd like for it to hold 2 gallons. If the interior width of my base is 8 inches and the maximum height the tank can be is 6 inches, how long does the tank need to be? ..... Just kidding folks! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Rick according to my input 1 cu ft = 7.48 gal so this would not be practical for me, I wish it was. Paul From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Wed Mar 18 19:38:47 2009 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:38:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <49D481C6AB124AC5B02264E21599FE82@bd32d875216e74> Message-ID: <7C6F0E00271A4CF396F7A424B395BED6@tommydk7hxjr4h> Couldn't you just fill the hopper of a ZD Fairbanks and then dump it out? They're about 1 foot square aren't they? Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY cut the bucket and reshape in one foot square box.? > Wouldn't it be easier to figure the ratio and use the five gallon > bucket? > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What > would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > From riga_fire at yahoo.com Wed Mar 18 19:47:46 2009 From: riga_fire at yahoo.com (Paul Russell) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <560C81354AFD4EE9AFC0FB1B9D3EA78B@tommydk7hxjr4h> References: <560C81354AFD4EE9AFC0FB1B9D3EA78B@tommydk7hxjr4h> Message-ID: <183686.51288.qm@web31803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> US gallon?? 9.625" UK Gallon? 11.55914303" :-) ________________________________ From: Judge Tommy Turner To: The SEL email discussion list Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:17:54 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Are you speaking of Imperial or US Gallons? Gallons by volume or weight? I have to make a gas tank for a small engine and I'd like for it to hold 2 gallons.? If the interior width of my base is 8 inches and the maximum height the tank can be is 6 inches, how long does the tank need to be? ..... Just kidding folks! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY Rick according to my input 1 cu ft = 7.48 gal so this would not be practical for me, I wish it was. Paul _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From falcon at telenet.net Wed Mar 18 20:19:47 2009 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:19:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <49C1B9D3.1020503@telenet.net> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: > Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, compost, > sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my raised > beds in the garden and I needed a way to measure out the material. The idea > is you measure out the various materials per the recipe and pour them onto a > large 12' X 12' tarp and then get two people, one on each side and you roll > the material back and forth over itself until it is well mixed and then put > it in the beds. > > Thanks for the help. > > Paul Use the bed itself. Measure the height X width X length. Use those numbers to calculate the amounts and use a standard 12" bucket for the measuring device. Keep in mind that your end result depends a LOT on what the moisture content is in the ingredients AND the compost size. All of my raised beds have a simple mix. They are 12'X3'X18" Each gets one large bale of peat, 100 pounds of humus soil, 100 pounds of compost and 50 pounds of sand. Makes a great media that grew tomato plants last year that produced over 100 pounds off SIX plants!!! I have to relocate my chives though, I started them 2 years ago, they are now taking over in one bed. I'm planning on using a tractor tire for them this year. -- Steve Williams From falcon at telenet.net Wed Mar 18 20:24:47 2009 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:24:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL><020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <024b01c9a832$a3450350$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <49C1BAFF.4020604@telenet.net> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: > Rick according to my input 1 cu ft = 7.48 gal so this would not be practical > for me, I wish it was. > > Paul Forgot to mention, Make a screening sieve for your compost. Makes it easier than digging out the big chunks all the time. -- Steve Williams From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 18 20:33:41 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:33:41 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL><020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <024b01c9a832$a3450350$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <49C1BAFF.4020604@telenet.net> Message-ID: Ok Steve, what size of the openings do you recommend in the screen? Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve W." To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: >> Rick according to my input 1 cu ft = 7.48 gal so this would not be >> practical >> for me, I wish it was. >> >> Paul > > Forgot to mention, Make a screening sieve for your compost. Makes it > easier than digging out the big chunks all the time. > > -- > Steve Williams > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 18 20:47:35 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:47:35 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <49C1A226.4050108@rustic-engines.com> References: <021f01c9a82f$63ea5280$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <535BFB3E-91D3-456F-AC8C-EF2870169406@me.com> <49C1A226.4050108@rustic-engines.com> Message-ID: (3X3=9)X3=27. 27X2=54! Dave PS, I Know you have 12 fingers--but for now just use 10 of them! On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:38 PM, Al Harris wrote: > 108 - I believe. > > Although I am getting confused here. > > Cheers, > > Al Harris > Summer Clarence Coast NSW Oz > > al.harris at rustic-engines.com > > > > David Rotigel wrote: >> WOULD THAT BE THE SAME AS 54 CUBIC FEET? >> Dave >> >> On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Tod Engine Foundation wrote: >> >> >>> Tommy you just built a two cubic yard box! >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >>> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" >> engine.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:54 PM >>> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >>> >>> >>> >>>> 3 feet tall by 6 feet square. >>>> >>>> Tommy Turner >>>> Magnolia, KY >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of >>>> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >>>> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >>>> >>>> >>>> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. >>>> What >>>> would be the dimensions of this box? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> >> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From al.harris at rustic-engines.com Wed Mar 18 21:17:49 2009 From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:17:49 +1100 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: <021f01c9a82f$63ea5280$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <535BFB3E-91D3-456F-AC8C-EF2870169406@me.com> <49C1A226.4050108@rustic-engines.com> Message-ID: <49C1C76D.3030008@rustic-engines.com> Use your feet as well and try 27X4=108 Now I am confused. :-\ Cheers, Al Harris Summer Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com David Rotigel wrote: > (3X3=9)X3=27. 27X2=54! > Dave > PS, I Know you have 12 fingers--but for now just use 10 of them! > > On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:38 PM, Al Harris wrote: > > >> 108 - I believe. >> >> Although I am getting confused here. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Al Harris >> Summer Clarence Coast NSW Oz >> >> al.harris at rustic-engines.com >> >> >> >> David Rotigel wrote: >> >>> WOULD THAT BE THE SAME AS 54 CUBIC FEET? >>> Dave >>> >>> On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Tod Engine Foundation wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Tommy you just built a two cubic yard box! >>>> >>>> Rick >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >>>> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" >>> engine.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:54 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> 3 feet tall by 6 feet square. >>>>> >>>>> Tommy Turner >>>>> Magnolia, KY >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of >>>>> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >>>>> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>>> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. >>>>> What >>>>> would be the dimensions of this box? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 18 21:34:20 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:34:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <024b01c9a832$a3450350$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <024b01c9a832$a3450350$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: A 5 gal. bucket appears to be about 12 in. in dia. and about 14' high. PI =3.14159265 (when dry.)(If the Pi is wet it is closer to 3.1415965!) PiXr2 =PiX(6x6) or 3.1415965X36=113.09747 113.09747 x14=1583.3645 cu inches. 12X12x12=1728 cu inches. 1728 is plenty close enought to 1583.3645 for givernment work! Argo, 4, five gallon buckets will be plenty cloce to the 4 cu feet of material that Paul needs! (This is even more true given that Paul is a rether sloppy bloke and tends to spill ~145 cu inches out of each bucket while carrying it to thr point of loading! Dave On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:32 PM, Tod Engine Foundation wrote: > I would probably use the five gallon bucket as the standard of > measurement > for your application. I don't know how many cubic feet a bucket > is, and > I'm not dressed to go out and find one to measure one right now. > > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:12 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, >> compost, >> sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my >> raised >> beds in the garden and I needed a way to measure out the material. >> The >> idea >> is you measure out the various materials per the recipe and pour >> them onto >> a >> large 12' X 12' tarp and then get two people, one on each side and >> you >> roll >> the material back and forth over itself until it is well mixed and >> then >> put >> it in the beds. >> >> Thanks for the help. >> >> Paul >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tod Engine Foundation" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:53 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >>> 1x1x4 or >>> 2x2x1 will get you there >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >>> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >>> >>> >>>> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. >>>> What >>>> would be the dimensions of this box? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 18 21:38:54 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:38:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <40C2E55B-E282-4D0A-8FEA-A9D0BB61C5B2@me.com> Message-ID: You believe this and still you tell someone to imagine a 1X1X1square block? Dave On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Kangas, James G. wrote: > Yes I know,nothing is impossible if you can imagine it, too bad > imagination is becoming so scarce. > Jim K. > > ________________________________ > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of David > Rotigel > Sent: Wed 3/18/2009 9:14 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > > And keep in mind--WHAT YOU CAN IMAGINE YOU CAN BE! > Dave > > On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:51 PM, Kangas, James G. wrote: > >> A box two feet by two feet by one foot deep would work.Just imagine >> four blocks that are one foot by one foot by one foot. >> Jim K. >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >> Sent: Wed 3/18/2009 8:36 PM >> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >> >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. >> What would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------- >> This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or >> entity named above. 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The Timken Company / The >> Timken Corporation _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 18 21:42:40 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:42:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <702837.35705.qm@web31802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <702837.35705.qm@web31802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good doG, the man can't figure out a 3rd grade squaring problem and already you want to have him move to 5th grade ratio? You are evil Paul--EVILL!!!!!!!!! Dave On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:54 PM, Paul Russell wrote: > Wouldn't it be easier to figure the ratio and use the five gallon > bucket? > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "paulmaples at sbcglobal.net" > To: The SEL email discussion list > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:12:51 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, > compost, > sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my > raised > beds in the garden and I needed a way to measure out the material. > The idea > is you measure out the various materials per the recipe and pour > them onto a > large 12' X 12' tarp and then get two people, one on each side and > you roll > the material back and forth over itself until it is well mixed and > then put > it in the beds. > > Thanks for the help. > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tod Engine Foundation" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:53 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> 1x1x4 or >> 2x2x1 will get you there >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >>> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. >>> What >>> would be the dimensions of this box? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Wed Mar 18 21:49:01 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:49:01 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3CD71EA0-21F6-43DD-91F6-1E25FFF0F8C5@me.com> Tommy, Wouldn't it be less money if you can get them to give you a pricr by thr cubic foot? Dave On Mar 18, 2009, at 10:09 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > No Rick, a box 6 feet wide by 6 feet long (6 feet square in other > words) > by 3 feet high is 4 cubic yards. I thought he was asking for yards (I > didn't carefully read the question where he asked for cubic feet). > The > ice storm has left a tremendous amount of limb and brush debris around > here. All the companies cleaning up have quoted me a price per cubic > yard to clean up my place. I guess I had yards on the mind. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David > Rotigel > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:20 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > WOULD THAT BE THE SAME AS 54 CUBIC FEET? > Dave > > On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Tod Engine Foundation wrote: > >> Tommy you just built a two cubic yard box! >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" > engine.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:54 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >>> 3 feet tall by 6 feet square. >>> >>> Tommy Turner >>> Magnolia, KY >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of >>> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >>> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >>> >>> >>> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. >>> What > >>> would be the dimensions of this box? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 19 03:39:30 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Message-ID: <546502.97582.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Wow, Paul I?just throw all the parts into my cement mixer. Alan --- On Wed, 3/18/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 9:12 PM Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, compost, sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my raised beds in the garden and I needed a way to measure out the material. The idea is you measure out the various materials per the recipe and pour them onto a large 12' X 12' tarp and then get two people, one on each side and you roll the material back and forth over itself until it is well mixed and then put it in the beds. Thanks for the help. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tod Engine Foundation" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > 1x1x4 or > 2x2x1 will get you there > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >> would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Thu Mar 19 03:40:24 2009 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 06:40:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <3CD71EA0-21F6-43DD-91F6-1E25FFF0F8C5@me.com> Message-ID: Actually I think I'm going to print out some of the suggestions that have been posted on the SEL in regards to Paul's question. I'll ask them to quote it the various ways that have been listed. It will probably be cheaper for them to do it for free than to spend the time figuring! Tommy Turner -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:49 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Tommy, Wouldn't it be less money if you can get them to give you a pricr by thr cubic foot? Dave On Mar 18, 2009, at 10:09 PM, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > No Rick, a box 6 feet wide by 6 feet long (6 feet square in other > words) > by 3 feet high is 4 cubic yards. I thought he was asking for yards (I > didn't carefully read the question where he asked for cubic feet). > The > ice storm has left a tremendous amount of limb and brush debris around > here. All the companies cleaning up have quoted me a price per cubic > yard to clean up my place. I guess I had yards on the mind. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David > Rotigel > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:20 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > WOULD THAT BE THE SAME AS 54 CUBIC FEET? > Dave > > On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Tod Engine Foundation wrote: > >> Tommy you just built a two cubic yard box! >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judge Tommy Turner" >> To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" > engine.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:54 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >>> 3 feet tall by 6 feet square. >>> >>> Tommy Turner >>> Magnolia, KY >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of >>> paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >>> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >>> >>> >>> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. >>> What > >>> would be the dimensions of this box? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From galoway4 at hughes.net Thu Mar 19 03:51:13 2009 From: galoway4 at hughes.net (Arthur Buchanan) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:51:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <49C1B9D3.1020503@telenet.net> References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> <49C1B9D3.1020503@telenet.net> Message-ID: <42D60257453E473F9D682334F71B0456@jokerB> Paul: Be sure to put hardware cloth in the bottom of beds to keep out gophers. - From: "Steve W." To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: >> Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, >> compost, >> sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my >> raised >> beds in the garden and I needed a way to measure out the material. The >> idea >> is you measure out the various materials per the recipe and pour them >> onto a >> large 12' X 12' tarp and then get two people, one on each side and you >> roll >> the material back and forth over itself until it is well mixed and then >> put >> it in the beds. >> >> Thanks for the help. >> >> Paul > > Use the bed itself. Measure the height X width X length. > Use those numbers to calculate the amounts and use a standard 12" bucket > for the measuring device. > Keep in mind that your end result depends a LOT on what the moisture > content is in the ingredients AND the compost size. > All of my raised beds have a simple mix. They are 12'X3'X18" > Each gets one large bale of peat, 100 pounds of humus soil, 100 pounds > of compost and 50 pounds of sand. Makes a great media that grew tomato > plants last year that produced over 100 pounds off SIX plants!!! > > I have to relocate my chives though, I started them 2 years ago, they > are now taking over in one bed. I'm planning on using a tractor tire for > them this year. > > -- > Steve Williams > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 19 06:04:06 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:04:06 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL><020f01c9a82d$237b7d20$0201a8c0@PC126411058289><024b01c9a832$a3450350$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: You got it right Master Dave, sloppy is a good descriptive word for me. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >A 5 gal. bucket appears to be about 12 in. in dia. and about 14' high. > PI =3.14159265 (when dry.)(If the Pi is wet it is closer to 3.1415965!) > PiXr2 =PiX(6x6) or 3.1415965X36=113.09747 > 113.09747 x14=1583.3645 cu inches. > 12X12x12=1728 cu inches. > 1728 is plenty close enought to 1583.3645 for givernment work! > Argo, 4, five gallon buckets will be plenty cloce to the 4 cu feet of > material that Paul needs! (This is even more true given that Paul is a > rether sloppy bloke and tends to spill ~145 cu inches out of each > bucket while carrying it to thr point of loading! > Dave > > On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:32 PM, Tod Engine Foundation wrote: > >> I would probably use the five gallon bucket as the standard of >> measurement From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 19 06:09:00 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:09:00 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <546502.97582.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <955B672F903F4F4FA4C7483E45E18FD7@PAUL> Understand Alan and right now I am trying to find a used concrete mixer. The wife says I have gone crazy and need medical help as I am getting too involved in building these two small garden plots. I am trying to track down some good top soil, a used leaf shredder/chipper, used composter or I will have to build one, and a used concrete mixer. Oh well Dad always told me if I was going to be a bear to be a grizzly. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:39 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Wow, Paul I just throw all the parts into my cement mixer. Alan --- On Wed, 3/18/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 9:12 PM Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, compost, sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my raised From edstoller at earthlink.net Thu Mar 19 05:26:38 2009 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:26:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL><8575EFE43AEB45F28103B903DEC241F9@Ed> Message-ID: <4476817B49DC464A91D78AE5FE155C55@Ed> Actually Paul, we should turn this topic back to OLD IRON before the cabin fever is over. If you have an old 55 gal drum, measure the inside diameter and we can tell you how high it needs to be. Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Thanks Ed, I think I have got it now as the boys have been sending me all > sorts of options. I just posted a message of what I am trying to do and > why > I need this box. > > Man O Man, just a simple O.T has awaken the SEL members, getting a flood > of > responses which is great. > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed stoller" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:17 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> Paul, >> >> Try 2 ' X 2 'X 1 '. >> >> But, if you wanted to make a cylindered " box"" it would be 2 ' 3" in >> diameter and 1 foot high. >> >> Ed Stoller >> New Fairfield, CT >> http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:36 PM >> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >>> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What >>> would be the dimensions of this box? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Thu Mar 19 06:34:55 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:34:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <955B672F903F4F4FA4C7483E45E18FD7@PAUL> References: <546502.97582.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <955B672F903F4F4FA4C7483E45E18FD7@PAUL> Message-ID: <08A54700-7909-40AD-9D1C-F02B94A613DC@me.com> YOUR WIFE SEEMS TO BE A VERY PRECEPTIVE WOMEN! Dave On Mar 19, 2009, at 9:09 AM, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: > Understand Alan and right now I am trying to find a used concrete > mixer. The > wife says I have gone crazy and need medical help > > Paul From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Mar 19 07:59:33 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:59:33 -0500 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: Paul: An easy way is to make up a little 1" x 1" cube with the top open. Now, carefully fill the cube and pour the contents into your tarp and do this exactly 6,912 times. You will have precisely four cubic feet of rotten garbage......er, compost in your pile. Simple! Or you could just build a container with a capacity of exactly 0.1481481 cubic yards and fill it only once with the rotte........er, compost to get your four cubic feet. Now, is that compressed or loose? Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 07:36 PM > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 > cubic feet of soil. What would be the dimensions > of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From enginepaul at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 10:00:26 2009 From: enginepaul at gmail.com (P. Johns) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:00:26 -0700 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: <8d3c36fb0903191000i4f9a671dt61cc9046d39760fb@mail.gmail.com> My mom's dad had a farm in PA, and I visited it when I was a kid and thought it was an OK place. No one mentioned all this paper work and calculating going on to take care of garbage. At least us city folk consider what you people call 'compost' to be garbage. So while others are telling you to get a measuring tape and/or a hammer and saw, cement mixer and all that; I say move to the city. Paul in the city of Vallejo, CA - where I happen to have a house for rent From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Mar 19 13:31:02 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:31:02 EDT Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Message-ID: In a message dated 3/18/2009 9:33:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mr at carolina.rr.com writes: Plus it will cost $242.00 a square foot to build and it will take him 3 months, plus engineering fees, architectural drawings and a rain clause. There is dirt involved, so you have to have a soil disturbance permit and the person who does the actual digging must have a license to do so! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************Great Deals on Dell 15" Laptops - Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220029050x1201385914/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doub leclick.net%2Fclk%3B212974460%3B34272906%3Bh) From ncs0821 at rit.edu Thu Mar 19 15:15:27 2009 From: ncs0821 at rit.edu (Nicholas Stanley (RIT Student)) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:15:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> Message-ID: <466D2D6C1AED0C40BF3CE7B18914E3B4E52C6F@svits27.main.ad.rit.edu> The equation for the volume of a rectangular box is: V=L?w?h Where L, w, and h are the length, width, and height, respectively, of the inside of the box, if you want the internal volume. A cube (or square box) is just a special case where the length, width, and height are equal. So, if the length of a side of the cubic box is 's': V=s? Or if you want to know what the dimension of the side of a cubic box that holds a given amount, you take the cube root of the volume you want: s=??V If you need a box that holds a certain number of yards, convert the number of cubic yards you want to cubic feet. One cubic yard equals 27 cubic feet. So just multiply the number of cubic yards you want by 27 to get cubic feet. Perhaps a little easier than F-M water hoppers and pails. Hope this helps! -- Nick Stanley ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sent: Wed 3/18/2009 8:36 PM To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. What would be the dimensions of this box? Thanks, Paul _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Mar 19 16:00:17 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:00:17 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Brass spec plates Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090320001953.00c2d360@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi guys and Gals, 12.30 pm here and I'm just waiting for some plates to finish etching and then to bed. I thought that I'd use the time to let you all know that I've sorted out the problems that I had making these plates and for the last 3 weeks have been catching up on all my work in every free moment I've had. Within an hour of now I will be totally up to date and the last order that was placed with me 3 days ago will be ready for posting. I've posted plates to Aus, Britain, USA and locally the in the last 3 weeks and most have already reached their destination but I'm still waiting for 2 confirmations (Luke & Elden are you reading this :-)?) I'd like to thank all you guys who have supported me and thanks also for all the nice comments about my work. I've had the chance to make many beautiful plates (I mean the original design was beautiful - not my work) since I started making these in early 2005. I've never updated my "brass plate" webpage with new pictures but that's high on my list and will keep you informed. I now have artwork for a good number of different engine plates. Now for some unashamed promotion. If there is anyone out there needing plates and you have a good pic of an original now would be a good time to contact me. I'm also waiting for pictures and instructions from a certain member of these lists who won one (or was it two?) plates on the the S.E.L. Christmas Charity auction 2 years ago (or was it 3 years ago?). No names, no pack drill but JUDGING by how long he is taking he must be a very busy gentleman :-). All for now and thanks again for the support and friendship. I really do appreciate it. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From rotigel at me.com Thu Mar 19 16:02:50 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:02:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: <466D2D6C1AED0C40BF3CE7B18914E3B4E52C6F@svits27.main.ad.rit.edu> References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <466D2D6C1AED0C40BF3CE7B18914E3B4E52C6F@svits27.main.ad.rit.edu> Message-ID: Good doG Nick, you lost him right after the first "L!" Dave PS, What's a "RIT?" On Mar 19, 2009, at 6:15 PM, Nicholas Stanley (RIT Student) wrote: > The equation for the volume of a rectangular box is: > > V=L?w?h > > Where L, w, and h are the length, width, and height, respectively, > of the inside of the box, if you want the internal volume. A cube > (or square box) is just a special case where the length, width, and > height are equal. > So, if the length of a side of the cubic box is 's': > > V=s? > > Or if you want to know what the dimension of the side of a cubic box > that holds a given amount, you take the cube root of the volume you > want: > > s=??V > > If you need a box that holds a certain number of yards, convert the > number of cubic yards you want to cubic feet. One cubic yard equals > 27 cubic feet. So just multiply the number of cubic yards you want > by 27 to get cubic feet. > > Perhaps a little easier than F-M water hoppers and pails. Hope this > helps! > > -- > Nick Stanley > > > > ________________________________ > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > Sent: Wed 3/18/2009 8:36 PM > To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > > Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. > What would be the dimensions of this box? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Mar 19 17:14:36 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:14:36 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Brass spec plates In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090320001953.00c2d360@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: My plates have not as yet arrived. I am patient, though. I'll give you a shout as soon as they get here. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jerry Evans > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 06:00 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Cc: stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Subject: [SEL] Brass spec plates > > > Hi guys and Gals, ......................snip............................ > I've posted plates to Aus, Britain, USA > and locally the in the > last 3 weeks and most have already reached their > destination but I'm still > waiting for 2 confirmations (Luke & Elden are you > reading this :-)?) ......................snip............................ > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Mar 19 16:52:23 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:52:23 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Brass spec plates/Oops! Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090320015101.029b98c8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi guys and Gals, 12.30 pm here and I'm just waiting for some plates to finish etching and then to bed. Sorry - typo that should have read 12.30 am (after midnight) Jerry From al.harris at rustic-engines.com Thu Mar 19 17:29:13 2009 From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:29:13 +1100 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert In-Reply-To: References: <3279E49972264B47BDAB2353FAA9F18D@PAUL> <466D2D6C1AED0C40BF3CE7B18914E3B4E52C6F@svits27.main.ad.rit.edu> Message-ID: <49C2E359.3010809@rustic-engines.com> However Dave, you did notice it was 27X4, didn't you??????? Cheers, Al Harris Summer Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com David Rotigel wrote: > Good doG Nick, you lost him right after the first "L!" > Dave > PS, What's a "RIT?" > > On Mar 19, 2009, at 6:15 PM, Nicholas Stanley (RIT Student) wrote: > > >> The equation for the volume of a rectangular box is: >> >> V=L?w?h >> >> Where L, w, and h are the length, width, and height, respectively, >> of the inside of the box, if you want the internal volume. A cube >> (or square box) is just a special case where the length, width, and >> height are equal. >> So, if the length of a side of the cubic box is 's': >> >> V=s? >> >> Or if you want to know what the dimension of the side of a cubic box >> that holds a given amount, you take the cube root of the volume you >> want: >> >> s=??V >> >> If you need a box that holds a certain number of yards, convert the >> number of cubic yards you want to cubic feet. One cubic yard equals >> 27 cubic feet. So just multiply the number of cubic yards you want >> by 27 to get cubic feet. >> >> Perhaps a little easier than F-M water hoppers and pails. Hope this >> helps! >> >> -- >> Nick Stanley >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >> Sent: Wed 3/18/2009 8:36 PM >> To: SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >> >> Folks I need to build a box that will hold 4 cubic feet of soil. >> What would be the dimensions of this box? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> > From rotigel at me.com Thu Mar 19 18:31:13 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:31:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Brass spec plates/Oops! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090320015101.029b98c8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090320015101.029b98c8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <27E3845A-9481-4220-9927-D79F556C4A4D@me.com> On Mar 19, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Jerry Evans wrote: > Hi guys and Gals, > Sorry - typo that should have read 12.30 am (after midnight) > Jerry WOW Jerry, That's what "am" means here also. What a small world! Dave From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 19 18:31:56 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Message-ID: <782012.2880.qm@web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have an extra?chipper/shredder that needs a engine. If YOU want it you can come pick it up. 8>)) Alan way up here in Michigan --- On Thu, 3/19/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 9:09 AM Understand Alan and right now I am trying to find a used concrete mixer. The wife says I have gone crazy and need medical help as I am getting too involved in building these two small garden plots. I am trying to track down some good top soil, a used leaf shredder/chipper, used composter or I will have to build one, and a used concrete mixer. Oh well Dad always told me if I was going to be a bear to be a grizzly. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:39 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Wow, Paul I just throw all the parts into my cement mixer. Alan --- On Wed, 3/18/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 9:12 PM Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, compost, sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my raised _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Thu Mar 19 20:29:59 2009 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:29:59 +1100 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <782012.2880.qm@web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20F177492A6742499AFA06BC9293E349@REG> Listen to your wife! Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert I have an extra chipper/shredder that needs a engine. If YOU want it you can come pick it up. 8>)) Alan way up here in Michigan --- On Thu, 3/19/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 9:09 AM Understand Alan and right now I am trying to find a used concrete mixer. The wife says I have gone crazy and need medical help as I am getting too involved in building these two small garden plots. I am trying to track down some good top soil, a used leaf shredder/chipper, used composter or I will have to build one, and a used concrete mixer. Oh well Dad always told me if I was going to be a bear to be a grizzly. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:39 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert Wow, Paul I just throw all the parts into my cement mixer. Alan --- On Wed, 3/18/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net wrote: From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 9:12 PM Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, compost, sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my raised _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Thu Mar 19 20:31:02 2009 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:31:02 +0900 Subject: [SEL] Brass spec plates/Oops! In-Reply-To: <27E3845A-9481-4220-9927-D79F556C4A4D@me.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090320015101.029b98c8@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <27E3845A-9481-4220-9927-D79F556C4A4D@me.com> Message-ID: <49C30DF6.1030801@optusnet.com.au> David Rotigel wrote: > On Mar 19, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Jerry Evans wrote: > > >> Hi guys and Gals, >> Sorry - typo that should have read 12.30 am (after midnight) >> Jerry >> > > WOW Jerry, That's what "am" means here also. What a small world! > Dave > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > Here, AM and PM mean Anti Meridian and Post Meridian, respectively JW? (but it's still a small world and we love it) From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 19 21:44:23 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:44:23 -0600 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <782012.2880.qm@web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20F177492A6742499AFA06BC9293E349@REG> Message-ID: Reg, I thought you were my supporter, now my wife's. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "R & M Ingold" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Listen to your wife! > Reg & Marg Ingold. > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 12:31 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > I have an extra chipper/shredder that needs a engine. > If YOU want it you can come pick it up. 8>)) > Alan way up here in Michigan > > --- On Thu, 3/19/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > wrote: > > > From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 9:09 AM > > > Understand Alan and right now I am trying to find a used concrete mixer. > The > wife says I have gone crazy and need medical help as I am getting too > involved in building these two small garden plots. I am trying to track > down > some good top soil, a used leaf shredder/chipper, used composter or I will > have to build one, and a used concrete mixer. Oh well Dad always told me > if > I was going to be a bear to be a grizzly. > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:39 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > > Wow, Paul > I just throw all the parts into my cement mixer. > Alan > > --- On Wed, 3/18/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > wrote: > > > From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 9:12 PM > > > Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, > compost, > sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my raised > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From flywheelin at hotmail.com Fri Mar 20 03:52:23 2009 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:52:23 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Brass spec plates In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090320001953.00c2d360@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090320001953.00c2d360@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Hi Jerry, I still haven't seen it in the mail box. Will let you know as soon as it shows up. Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ============================= > Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:00:17 +0200 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > From: jerrye at databak.co.za > CC: stationary-engine at oldengine.org > Subject: [SEL] Brass spec plates > > Hi guys and Gals, > 12.30 pm here and I'm just waiting for some plates to finish > etching and then to bed. > > I thought that I'd use the time to let you all know that I've > sorted out the problems that I had making these plates and for the last 3 > weeks have been catching up on all my work in every free moment I've had. > Within an hour of now I will be totally up to date and the last order that > was placed with me 3 days ago will be ready for posting. > > I've posted plates to Aus, Britain, USA and locally the in the > last 3 weeks and most have already reached their destination but I'm still > waiting for 2 confirmations (Luke & Elden are you reading this :-)?) > > I'd like to thank all you guys who have supported me and thanks > also for all the nice comments about my work. I've had the chance to make > many beautiful plates (I mean the original design was beautiful - not my > work) since I started making these in early 2005. I've never updated my > "brass plate" webpage with new pictures but that's high on my list and will > keep you informed. I now have artwork for a good number of different engine > plates. > > Now for some unashamed promotion. If there is anyone out there > needing plates and you have a good pic of an original now would be a good > time to contact me. > > I'm also waiting for pictures and instructions from a certain > member of these lists who won one (or was it two?) plates on the the S.E.L. > Christmas Charity auction 2 years ago (or was it 3 years ago?). No names, > no pack drill but JUDGING by how long he is taking he must be a very busy > gentleman :-). > > All for now and thanks again for the support and friendship. I > really do appreciate it. > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. > Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_032009 From plowe at exemail.com.au Fri Mar 20 03:54:44 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:54:44 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Dom Miller's address wanted Message-ID: <4DC1806D2A7442B985CB3CA80351E29F@peterlowe> Hi All I am after Don Miller's email address, this one bounces: bjdeere1935 at sbcglobal.net Does anyone out there know who is making ignitors, I am after 2hp R&V ignitors. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Fri Mar 20 04:05:37 2009 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:05:37 +1100 Subject: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert References: <782012.2880.qm@web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com><20F177492A6742499AFA06BC9293E349@REG> Message-ID: Aw, ya just cannot trust ANYONE these days!!! Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > Reg, I thought you were my supporter, now my wife's. > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "R & M Ingold" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:29 PM > Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert > > >> Listen to your wife! >> Reg & Marg Ingold. >> Newcastle, NSW, Australia. >> randmingold at hotkey.net.au >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alan" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 12:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >> I have an extra chipper/shredder that needs a engine. >> If YOU want it you can come pick it up. 8>)) >> Alan way up here in Michigan >> >> --- On Thu, 3/19/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >> wrote: >> >> >> From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 9:09 AM >> >> >> Understand Alan and right now I am trying to find a used concrete mixer. >> The >> wife says I have gone crazy and need medical help as I am getting too >> involved in building these two small garden plots. I am trying to track >> down >> some good top soil, a used leaf shredder/chipper, used composter or I >> will >> have to build one, and a used concrete mixer. Oh well Dad always told me >> if >> I was going to be a bear to be a grizzly. >> >> Paul >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alan" >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> >> >> Wow, Paul >> I just throw all the parts into my cement mixer. >> Alan >> >> --- On Wed, 3/18/09, paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >> wrote: >> >> >> From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net >> Subject: Re: [SEL] O.T O.T O.T Need to talk to a math expert >> To: "The SEL email discussion list" >> Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 9:12 PM >> >> >> Getting a lot of excellent options. Guys I am mixing together soil, >> compost, >> sand, and humus (peat) to make a good growing medium to put into my >> raised >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Fri Mar 20 04:20:20 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:20:20 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Brian Wells phone number in Oz Message-ID: <038C369BD5B54CE090A42B29421BD868@peterlowe> Hi all Is the name of the guy that has all the Lister parts in Oz called Brian Wells, he lived near Tamworth area somewhere. Used to advertise in TOMM. If you know who I mean, did he only sell Lister or did he also sell Petter parts. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From bethell at internode.on.net Fri Mar 20 05:15:47 2009 From: bethell at internode.on.net (Jim&Geraldine Bethell) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:15:47 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Brian Wells phone number in Oz In-Reply-To: <038C369BD5B54CE090A42B29421BD868@peterlowe> References: <038C369BD5B54CE090A42B29421BD868@peterlowe> Message-ID: Peter, Brians advert is on page 55 of the last TOMM. He is still in business and he does supply Petter parts as well as Lister. I have dealt with him in the past and he is only too willing to assist. regards Jim Jim & Geraldine Bethell 12 Fush Place Mildura Victoria 3500 03-50213414 0427-213414 http://community.webshots.com/user/jimsiron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lowe" To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 10:20 PM Subject: [SEL] Brian Wells phone number in Oz > Hi all > > Is the name of the guy that has all the Lister parts in Oz called Brian > Wells, he lived near Tamworth area somewhere. Used to advertise in TOMM. > If you know who I mean, did he only sell Lister or did he also sell Petter > parts. > > Regards > Peter Lowe > R&V Engine Registrar > Australia > http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Fri Mar 20 05:27:48 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:27:48 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Brian Wells phone number in Oz References: <038C369BD5B54CE090A42B29421BD868@peterlowe> Message-ID: Thanks a lot Jim, I must have missed the advert, not like me ;-)) Regards Peter > Peter, > Brians advert is on page 55 of the last TOMM. He is still in business and > he > does supply Petter parts as well as Lister. I have dealt with him in the > past and he is only too willing to assist. > regards > Jim > > > Jim & Geraldine Bethell > 12 Fush Place > Mildura Victoria 3500 > 03-50213414 > 0427-213414 > http://community.webshots.com/user/jimsiron > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Lowe" > To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine.org" > > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 10:20 PM > Subject: [SEL] Brian Wells phone number in Oz > > >> Hi all >> >> Is the name of the guy that has all the Lister parts in Oz called Brian >> Wells, he lived near Tamworth area somewhere. Used to advertise in TOMM. >> If you know who I mean, did he only sell Lister or did he also sell >> Petter >> parts. >> >> Regards >> Peter Lowe >> R&V Engine Registrar >> Australia >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From tchristoff at earthlink.net Fri Mar 20 06:20:00 2009 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:20:00 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [SEL] Dom Miller's address wanted Message-ID: <7417749.1237555200410.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Don Miller - bjdeere1935ignnitor at sbcglobal.net Tim Christoff Basehor Kansas -----Original Message----- >From: Peter Lowe >Sent: Mar 20, 2009 3:54 AM >To: ATIS , "Oldengine.org" >Subject: [SEL] Dom Miller's address wanted > >Hi All > >I am after Don Miller's email address, this one bounces: bjdeere1935 at sbcglobal.net > >Does anyone out there know who is making ignitors, I am after 2hp R&V ignitors. > >Regards >Peter Lowe >R&V Engine Registrar >Australia >http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frappi at wcoil.com Sat Mar 21 12:34:45 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:34:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Show Directorys For sale?? In-Reply-To: References: <20090318.175537.1516.3.rdhaskell@juno.com> <6f6025160903210100mcdaf3fby5fe6ca1cba6948c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090321193441.C6D2F3E43DB@mail05.wcoil.com> Is anyone on the list selling show directories? I know they are available on line thru Ogden but I would just as soon patronize a list member. Can't let Ogden (Farm Collector) make all the money. Mark Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. Check out the Maytag Collectors Club web site www.Maytagclub.com From jdohagan at comcast.net Sat Mar 21 16:01:32 2009 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:01:32 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Field and Brundage Message-ID: <20090321230132.EBAC265B441@in02.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Hi, Does anyone have any paper on early Field Brundage engines sold in the early 1900's The information may also be included in early Fairbanks Morse catalogs and manuals because F.M. rebadged Fields and sold them under their Fairbanks brand.I'd gladly contribute towards your "shim stock fund" for any copies. Thanks for looking, Jimmy O'Hagan,415 892 0236 Novato, Ca.USA. Jim O'Hagan From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Sat Mar 21 20:59:44 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:59:44 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Field and Brundage In-Reply-To: <20090321230132.EBAC265B441@in02.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: Aren't 'Fairbanks Morse' and 'Fairbanks' two different and unrelated companies? On 22/3/09 10:01 AM, "Jim O'Hagan" wrote: > Hi, Does anyone have any paper on early Field Brundage engines sold in the > early 1900's The information may also be included in early Fairbanks Morse > catalogs and manuals because F.M. rebadged Fields and sold them under their > Fairbanks brand.I'd gladly contribute towards your "shim stock fund" for any > copies. Thanks for looking, Jimmy O'Hagan,415 892 0236 Novato, Ca.USA. > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sat Mar 21 21:17:22 2009 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:17:22 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Field and Brundage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9B8ABA2401CF4D849C08F45E9CCEF420@tommydk7hxjr4h> Yeah. The Field Brundage engines were sold by the Fairbanks Supply Company and Fairbanks put their name on them. Fairbanks Supply and Faibanks Morse were two totally separate companies. Fairbanks Supply also bought Callahan engines, Bates and Edmonds engines and others. The tags they placed on them said "Fairbanks Company". I've got a Callahan engine that has the Fairbanks tag on it rather than a Callahan tag. When a friend found the engine he told me he had found a "Fairbanks Morse sideshaft". Its an easy mistake to make. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:00 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Field and Brundage Aren't 'Fairbanks Morse' and 'Fairbanks' two different and unrelated companies? On 22/3/09 10:01 AM, "Jim O'Hagan" wrote: > Hi, Does anyone have any paper on early Field Brundage engines sold > in the early 1900's The information may also be included in early > Fairbanks Morse catalogs and manuals because F.M. rebadged Fields and > sold them under their Fairbanks brand.I'd gladly contribute towards > your "shim stock fund" for any copies. Thanks for looking, Jimmy > O'Hagan,415 892 0236 Novato, Ca.USA. > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Sun Mar 22 00:16:01 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:16:01 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Engine ignitors wanted Message-ID: <3DEB8FCE66F544A0B792E69A4B6B3180@peterlowe> Hi all I am after makers of ignitors other than Don Miller (who seems to be very busy) that can and will make good ignitors. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From listerdiesel at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 12:44:33 2009 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:44:33 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Bearings (Ball and Roller) Message-ID: <6f6025160903221244u35c13c5dobc163f220e351914@mail.gmail.com> Looking for some replacement bearings for the Carrier Wheels, we found that the correct bearings were no longer available, and the dimensional replacement was ?40 a throw ($56.00) However, looking at the dimensions, we were able to find a much cheaper bearing by increasing the ID, which gave us a bearing price of ?5 or about $6.50. Two ebay vendors had them available. We have only had to increase the stub axle diameter from 40mm to 50mm to get into a volume priced bearing that is more than up to the job. Worth thinking about if you are able to modify an application, or when designing something new, go for the volume bearings, not the specials. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jdohagan at comcast.net Sun Mar 22 14:47:20 2009 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:47:20 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Field and Brundage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090322214721.4442F4054C2@in03.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> OOPS!, You guys are right! The last manual that I saw listed on Ebay was listed as a Fairbanks Morse book and I didn't catch the mistake. So does anyone have a "Fairbanks Co." manual that covers the Field Brundage fngines? JimmyO'Hagan 415 892 0236 Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:00 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Field and Brundage Aren't 'Fairbanks Morse' and 'Fairbanks' two different and unrelated companies? On 22/3/09 10:01 AM, "Jim O'Hagan" wrote: > Hi, Does anyone have any paper on early Field Brundage engines sold in the > early 1900's The information may also be included in early Fairbanks Morse > catalogs and manuals because F.M. rebadged Fields and sold them under their > Fairbanks brand.I'd gladly contribute towards your "shim stock fund" for any > copies. Thanks for looking, Jimmy O'Hagan,415 892 0236 Novato, Ca.USA. > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From blcksmth at wcnet.org Sun Mar 22 16:35:38 2009 From: blcksmth at wcnet.org (Bob Willman) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:35:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Northwest Ohio Blacksmiths at the Wood County Museum In-Reply-To: <6f6025160903221244u35c13c5dobc163f220e351914@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f6025160903221244u35c13c5dobc163f220e351914@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Saturday April 04 the Northwest Ohio Blacksmiths will host an open forge at the Wood County Historical Society near Bowling Green, Ohio. This is the opening day for the Wood County Museum's 2009 season. The museum blacksmith shop is located next to the boiler for the steam powered oil drilling rig which I hear will be under steam power and the S.M. Jones gas engine oil pumping power display. We will have several portable forges operating in addition to the museum blacksmith shop. We plan to have some project for the smiths to make. The museum exhibits will be open. NOB activities start around 08:30 AM and the Museum opens between 09:00 and 10:00. The museum is located on US-6 just East of I-75 Southeast of Bowling Green, Ohio. You can see the oil drilling derrick from I-75 if you know where to look and it is easy to spot the from US-6. If you can come, all are welcome. www.woodcountyhistory.org www.nob-blacksmiths.org Bob Willman Bowling Green, Ohio The Eagle's Anvil WB8NQW From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Mar 23 00:55:08 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:55:08 +0200 Subject: [SEL] What are you doing today? Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090323094622.028e21c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi All, It's 9:45am here and I'm just waiting for a mate to pick me up and then we are going flying in his restored 1946 SAAB Safire. (4 seater trainer.) (Darn thing is older than I am!!) According to reps of the SAAB factory who came to look at it a few years ago it is the best restored version of this aircraft around today so we should be quite safe :-) He builds and repairs aircraft so I'm really quite confident of his abilities. He is emigrating to Australia (Melbourne) and leaves tomorrow so this will be his last flight for a few months. He will be back in a few months to dismantle the plane and ship it off to AUS. I'll post pics when (if ??) I get back. Have a good day. Jerry From kosh at ncweb.com Mon Mar 23 01:33:41 2009 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 04:33:41 -0400 Subject: [SEL] What are you doing today? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090323094622.028e21c0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20090323043214.0d21a400@ncweb.com> Here it is, the SAAB 91: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_91_Safir We used to have a couple SAAB 99's, but they didn't fly too good. Dave Merchant At 03:55 AM 3/23/2009, you wrote: >Hi All, > It's 9:45am here and I'm just waiting for a mate to pick me up > and then we >are going flying in his restored 1946 SAAB Safire. (4 seater trainer.) >(Darn thing is older than I am!!) > > According to reps of the SAAB factory who came to look at it a > few years >ago it is the best restored version of this aircraft around today so we >should be quite safe :-) > > He builds and repairs aircraft so I'm really quite confident of his >abilities. He is emigrating to Australia (Melbourne) and leaves tomorrow so >this will be his last flight for a few months. He will be back in a few >months to dismantle the plane and ship it off to AUS. > > I'll post pics when (if ??) I get back. >Have a good day. >Jerry > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From cgandree at mchsi.com Mon Mar 23 04:47:32 2009 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:47:32 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information Message-ID: <032320091147.2428.49C776D40003CB340000097C223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Hi Guys, Is there any one that lives close to American Fork, Utah? Need someone to help look at an engine for me. Thank you in advance, Curt Andree From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Mar 23 15:11:03 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:11:03 +0200 Subject: [SEL] What are you doing today? Update Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090323234152.028f4828@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi All, Further to my earlier post. A) I got back in 1 piece (Not that I ever doubted :-) !!) What a great experience - this is really a beautiful aeroplane. I flew in her in 2005 as well but that is so long ago that I'd forgotten how beautiful she was. Re the aircraft. Changes to my earlier post (and thanks for the replies). She is a 1947 (not 1946 as mentioned earlier) SAAB Safir 91C trainer (military/civilian) originally used by the "Ethiopian (sp.)Imperial Air Force" (Thats those skinny black dudes who smoke grass and listen to Bob Marley music :-)). Her No. in Ethiopia was 141 Her call signal is "ZU-DES" and a Google for ("SAAB Safir" "ZU-DES") will get lots of results. Her original Lycoming engine is now obsolete and she was refitted with a Continental engine. (I'm not sure of the specs.). I've put some pics here: Please look at them. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jdohagan at comcast.net Mon Mar 23 15:30:32 2009 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:30:32 -0700 Subject: [SEL] What are you doing today? Update In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090323234152.028f4828@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <20090323223033.E63A84C8CC8@in01.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Jerry, Nice plane,but what's the Butt Buggy? Jimmy O'Hagan Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Evans Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 3:11 PM To: slick at toltbbs.com Cc: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; stationary-engine at oldengine.org Subject: [SEL] What are you doing today? Update Hi All, Further to my earlier post. A) I got back in 1 piece (Not that I ever doubted :-) !!) What a great experience - this is really a beautiful aeroplane. I flew in her in 2005 as well but that is so long ago that I'd forgotten how beautiful she was. Re the aircraft. Changes to my earlier post (and thanks for the replies). She is a 1947 (not 1946 as mentioned earlier) SAAB Safir 91C trainer (military/civilian) originally used by the "Ethiopian (sp.)Imperial Air Force" (Thats those skinny black dudes who smoke grass and listen to Bob Marley music :-)). Her No. in Ethiopia was 141 Her call signal is "ZU-DES" and a Google for ("SAAB Safir" "ZU-DES") will get lots of results. Her original Lycoming engine is now obsolete and she was refitted with a Continental engine. (I'm not sure of the specs.). I've put some pics here: Please look at them. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ashpow at westnet.com.au Mon Mar 23 18:22:55 2009 From: ashpow at westnet.com.au (Ash Powell) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:22:55 +1100 Subject: [SEL] BMS 2 stroke engine? Message-ID: Hey all Ive picked up an old lawnmower (?) engine for free but cant find any info on it. Its a "BMS Series 10" It has a ratchet pull start with "Lawn Patrol" written on it. Any ideas of age, any info? Cheers Ash From rotigel at me.com Mon Mar 23 18:39:00 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:39:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information In-Reply-To: <032320091147.2428.49C776D40003CB340000097C223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <032320091147.2428.49C776D40003CB340000097C223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <823B17CC-21A4-4112-B003-0D2E56C86F47@me.com> Hi Curt, YES! Dave On Mar 23, 2009, at 7:47 AM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > Hi Guys, > Is there any one that lives close to American Fork, Utah? > Curt Andree From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Mon Mar 23 20:56:04 2009 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:56:04 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information In-Reply-To: <823B17CC-21A4-4112-B003-0D2E56C86F47@me.com> References: <032320091147.2428.49C776D40003CB340000097C223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> <823B17CC-21A4-4112-B003-0D2E56C86F47@me.com> Message-ID: Hey Dave, about 27,000 Kerry > Hi Curt, YES! > Dave > > On Mar 23, 2009, at 7:47 AM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > >> Hi Guys, >> Is there any one that lives close to American Fork, Utah? >> Curt Andree > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.25/2019 - Release Date: 03/23/09 18:51:00 From rotigel at me.com Tue Mar 24 13:16:36 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:16:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information In-Reply-To: References: <032320091147.2428.49C776D40003CB340000097C223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> <823B17CC-21A4-4112-B003-0D2E56C86F47@me.com> Message-ID: <88F1D243-96BB-4033-A72F-F97BE94CFA41@me.com> Damn, You would think AT LEAST one of them would respond to Curt! Dave On Mar 23, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Kerry wrote: > Hey Dave, about 27,000 > Kerry > > > > >> Hi Curt, YES! >> Dave >> >> On Mar 23, 2009, at 7:47 AM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: >> >>> Hi Guys, >>> Is there any one that lives close to American Fork, Utah? >>> Curt Andree >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.25/2019 - Release Date: > 03/23/09 > 18:51:00 > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From cgandree at mchsi.com Wed Mar 25 04:56:52 2009 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:56:52 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information In-Reply-To: <88F1D243-96BB-4033-A72F-F97BE94CFA41@me.com> References: <032320091147.2428.49C776D40003CB340000097C223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com><823B17CC-21A4-4112-B003-0D2E56C86F47@me.com> <88F1D243-96BB-4033-A72F-F97BE94CFA41@me.com> Message-ID: <032520091156.12597.49CA1C040007237B00003135223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Dave, Can not believe we don't have at least one member who is lurking on our list who can't help me out. Just want someone to take a few pics of the engine and get some details. The old coot who owns the engine has a large collection of other engines and tractors to look at a enjoys the company of other engine collectors. Who knows one might beable to buy a new prize if he is willing to sell. Please respond if you can help! Curt -------------- Original message from David Rotigel : -------------- > Damn, You would think AT LEAST one of them would respond to Curt! > Dave > > On Mar 23, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Kerry wrote: > > > Hey Dave, about 27,000 > > Kerry > > > > > > > > > >> Hi Curt, YES! > >> Dave > >> > >> On Mar 23, 2009, at 7:47 AM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Guys, > >>> Is there any one that lives close to American Fork, Utah? > >>> Curt Andree > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.25/2019 - Release Date: > > 03/23/09 > > 18:51:00 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Mar 25 05:08:18 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:08:18 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information References: <032320091147.2428.49C776D40003CB340000097C223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com><823B17CC-21A4-4112-B003-0D2E56C86F47@me.com><88F1D243-96BB-4033-A72F-F97BE94CFA41@me.com> <032520091156.12597.49CA1C040007237B00003135223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <8B51B3058FBC4629B2555F3371EE87DF@loungeroom> Curt When I used to run the LIST atlas with all List members pinned to the Atlas, I had no members in Utah at all, or anywhere near there.. Peter, Oz > Dave, > Can not believe we don't have at least one member who is lurking on our > list who can't help me out. > Just want someone to take a few pics of the engine and get some details. > The old coot who owns the engine has a large collection of other engines > and tractors to look at a enjoys the company of other engine collectors. > Who knows one might beable to buy a new prize if he is willing to sell. > Please respond if you can help! > Curt > -------------- Original message from David Rotigel > : -------------- > > >> Damn, You would think AT LEAST one of them would respond to Curt! >> Dave >> >> On Mar 23, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Kerry wrote: >> >> > Hey Dave, about 27,000 >> > Kerry >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> Hi Curt, YES! >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> On Mar 23, 2009, at 7:47 AM, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi Guys, >> >>> Is there any one that lives close to American Fork, Utah? >> >>> Curt Andree >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SEL mailing list >> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > >> > > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.25/2019 - Release Date: >> > 03/23/09 >> > 18:51:00 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SEL mailing list >> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Mar 25 09:44:54 2009 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:44:54 -0800 Subject: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information Message-ID: <20090325.084454.660.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi Curt. Map quest says I am 627 miles away, is that close enough? Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:56:52 +0000 cgandree at mchsi.com writes: > Dave, > Can not believe we don't have at least one member who is lurking on > our list who can't help me out. > Just want someone to take a few pics of the engine and get some > details. The old coot who owns the engine has a large collection of > other engines and tractors to look at a enjoys the company of other > engine collectors. Who knows one might beable to buy a new prize if > he is willing to sell. > Please respond if you can help! > Curt ____________________________________________________________ Click here for free information on how to become certified as a project management professional. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTOZAmnvWp8tpJexvqwyCHWEfSrGrHVww6CxfMrSSWxh88MyHx9w3m/ From George_Best at adp.com Wed Mar 25 09:46:03 2009 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:46:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information In-Reply-To: <20090325.084454.660.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> References: <20090325.084454.660.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590A57A4F6@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> I'm 811 miles from there, so Ron it looks like it is closer for you! ;-) Curt, too bad you didn't post this last week or someone contacted me while I was in Arizona at the Cottonwood show. We could have easily driving past American Fork UT on our way back home and visiting collectors is something I enjoy doing. Coming back through Utah was one of our options and was what Garmin was telling us to do. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rdhaskell at juno.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:45 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information Hi Curt. Map quest says I am 627 miles away, is that close enough? Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:56:52 +0000 cgandree at mchsi.com writes: > Dave, > Can not believe we don't have at least one member who is lurking on > our list who can't help me out. > Just want someone to take a few pics of the engine and get some > details. The old coot who owns the engine has a large collection of > other engines and tractors to look at a enjoys the company of other > engine collectors. Who knows one might beable to buy a new prize if > he is willing to sell. > Please respond if you can help! > Curt ____________________________________________________________ Click here for free information on how to become certified as a project management professional. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTOZAmnvWp8tpJexvqwyCHW EfSrGrHVww6CxfMrSSWxh88MyHx9w3m/ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From plowe at exemail.com.au Thu Mar 26 03:54:19 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:54:19 +1100 Subject: [SEL] R&V manuals wanted Message-ID: <08E88FFC78E14A9980E2E315E1B941C9@peterlowe> Hi all Does anyone out there have an "original copy" of this booklet: Price List of "R&V" Horizontal Hit-and-Miss Governing Engine Parts If so could you please contact me OFF LIST at plowe at exemail.com.au , (that means click here) I have an original copy missing pages 11 & 12, I am working on Chapter 7 of my R&V book covering the Hit & Miss Horizontals. I would also like to talk to those who also have other R&V original manuals. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm From cgandree at mchsi.com Thu Mar 26 05:51:21 2009 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:51:21 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information In-Reply-To: <20090325.084454.660.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <032620091251.14316.49CB7A490006FBC3000037EC223045151403010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Ron, So far you re nearest to the old boys farm. Guess its up to you if you want to make the roady, might be worth your while. The only payment would be a big THANK YOU as I am just after research info and not interested in buying anything. Contact me off list or I could give you a phone call. thank you, Curt -------------- Original message from rdhaskell at juno.com: -------------- > Hi Curt. Map quest says I am 627 miles away, is that close enough? > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:56:52 +0000 cgandree at mchsi.com writes: > > Dave, > > Can not believe we don't have at least one member who is lurking on > > our list who can't help me out. > > Just want someone to take a few pics of the engine and get some > > details. The old coot who owns the engine has a large collection of > > other engines and tractors to look at a enjoys the company of other > > engine collectors. Who knows one might beable to buy a new prize if > > he is willing to sell. > > Please respond if you can help! > > Curt > ____________________________________________________________ Click here for free information on how to become certified as a project > management professional. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTOZAmnvWp8tpJexvqwyCHWEfSrGrHV > ww6CxfMrSSWxh88MyHx9w3m/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From George_Best at adp.com Thu Mar 26 08:11:03 2009 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:11:03 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information In-Reply-To: <032620091251.14316.49CB7A490006FBC3000037EC223045151403010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <20090325.084454.660.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> <032620091251.14316.49CB7A490006FBC3000037EC223045151403010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <20D5FDABEE7B514B8BA9F136E64010590A5A8E2D@EXCHANGEDS01.ds.ad.adp.com> Curt, Try contacting DirtbikePilot at hotmail.com. He's a young engine collector in the Salt Lake City area. You could probably talk him into going to visit the old coot. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of cgandree at mchsi.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:51 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Need Help with Engine information Ron, So far you re nearest to the old boys farm. Guess its up to you if you want to make the roady, might be worth your while. The only payment would be a big THANK YOU as I am just after research info and not interested in buying anything. Contact me off list or I could give you a phone call. thank you, Curt -------------- Original message from rdhaskell at juno.com: -------------- > Hi Curt. Map quest says I am 627 miles away, is that close enough? > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > > On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:56:52 +0000 cgandree at mchsi.com writes: > > Dave, > > Can not believe we don't have at least one member who is lurking on > > our list who can't help me out. > > Just want someone to take a few pics of the engine and get some > > details. The old coot who owns the engine has a large collection of > > other engines and tractors to look at a enjoys the company of other > > engine collectors. Who knows one might beable to buy a new prize if > > he is willing to sell. > > Please respond if you can help! > > Curt > ____________________________________________________________ Click here for free information on how to become certified as a project > management professional. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTOZAmnvWp8tpJexvqwyCHW EfSrGrHV > ww6CxfMrSSWxh88MyHx9w3m/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Sat Mar 28 21:27:12 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:27:12 +1100 Subject: [SEL] A couple of toys running Message-ID: Having a productive weekend at home I fired up a couple of engines that have not had any attention for a while. The 2hp R&V has only run for short periods since I got it running. I pulled fuel lines and carby off, cleaned eveything especially giving the check valve lots of attention. It is now running well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpvP557yOAc My F&J Farm Pumper has been buried for some years so it was due to come out. The fuel smells really bad but it does run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7EV2mQ_Moo Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Sat Mar 28 23:24:08 2009 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:24:08 +1100 Subject: [SEL] A couple of toys running References: Message-ID: The fuel we have to contend with these days, after a shortish time, has a smell that would, ..............I dunno quite WHAT to say about it! It aint what we used to run our toys on, thats for flamin sure. For what it costs us, when evaporated, it should have a golden glint! Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick" To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine" Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 3:27 PM Subject: [SEL] A couple of toys running > Having a productive weekend at home I fired up a couple of engines that > have > not had any attention for a while. > The 2hp R&V has only run for short periods since I got it running. I > pulled > fuel lines and carby off, cleaned eveything especially giving the check > valve lots of attention. It is now running well: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpvP557yOAc > > My F&J Farm Pumper has been buried for some years so it was due to come > out. > The fuel smells really bad but it does run: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7EV2mQ_Moo > > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Sun Mar 29 02:04:42 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:04:42 +1100 Subject: [SEL] A couple of toys running References: Message-ID: <82ABCDB334904F4285935AD6225E5B22@peterlowe> Both my common Moffat Virtues will not start unless the unleaded fuel was baked that morning, it must be fresh fuel or you will crank your arm off. Kaye's Maytag naturally runs on anything, first time ;-)) Peter, Oz > The fuel we have to contend with these days, after a shortish time, has a > smell that would, ..............I dunno quite WHAT to say about it! > It aint what we used to run our toys on, thats for flamin sure. > For what it costs us, when evaporated, it should have a golden glint! > Reg & Marg Ingold. > Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > randmingold at hotkey.net.au > http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick" > To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine" > > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 3:27 PM > Subject: [SEL] A couple of toys running > > >> Having a productive weekend at home I fired up a couple of engines that >> have >> not had any attention for a while. >> The 2hp R&V has only run for short periods since I got it running. I >> pulled >> fuel lines and carby off, cleaned eveything especially giving the check >> valve lots of attention. It is now running well: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpvP557yOAc >> >> My F&J Farm Pumper has been buried for some years so it was due to come >> out. >> The fuel smells really bad but it does run: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7EV2mQ_Moo >> >> >> Patrick M Livingstone >> Leichhardt NSW >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Mar 29 08:09:11 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:09:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] A couple of toys running In-Reply-To: <82ABCDB334904F4285935AD6225E5B22@peterlowe> References: <82ABCDB334904F4285935AD6225E5B22@peterlowe> Message-ID: Damn right. It doesn't matter HOW old the smoke & mirrors are... On Sun, March 29, 2009 5:04 am, Peter Lowe wrote: > > Kaye's Maytag naturally runs on anything, first time ;-)) > > Peter, Oz -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From rdhaskell at juno.com Sun Mar 29 11:24:09 2009 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:24:09 -0800 Subject: [SEL] First show of the season Message-ID: <20090329.102411.1052.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi all. My local club WAPA (Western Antique Power Associates) was invited to participate in the Highland Citrus Festival in Highland CA. Here are some pictures of our display. It was a beautiful Southern California day, with temps in the low 80's, clear skies, and gentle breezes, and best of all good friends. http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/HighlandCitrusFestoval2009?authkey =Gv1sRgCMexx6qmyZ6b2gE# Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Hit the slopes! Click now for great packages for your ski vacation! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLw9V9wuDlam6Tf5Yy3yDfJZ7mZHzZv7OoRgC0nkOveXEVLCYVHEU/ From rob at rustyiron.com Sun Mar 29 10:55:17 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:55:17 -0700 Subject: [SEL] First show of the season In-Reply-To: References: <20090329.102411.1052.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <897EF2DC-2BDB-4D0C-8CCA-D1A80ABCB5B5@rustyiron.com> Hi, Frank. Oftentimes the List Server software splits a URL. It's easy to paste the to lines back into one. Try this, I did it for you: http://tinyurl.com/dckjr3 Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com On Mar 29, 2009, at 10:46 AM, frank skinner wrote: > Ron; > google 500 internal server error, couldnt view the pix > > Franklin S. Skinner > Marine Surveyor & Consultant > 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 > 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West > PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > > Hi all. > > My local club WAPA (Western Antique Power Associates) was invited to > > participate in the Highland Citrus Festival in Highland CA. Here are > > some pictures of our display. It was a beautiful Southern California > > day, with temps in the low 80's, clear skies, and gentle breezes, > and > > best of all good friends. > > > > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/HighlandCitrusFestoval2009?authkey > > =Gv1sRgCMexx6qmyZ6b2gE# > > > > Ron Haskell > > rdhaskell at juno.com > > Riverside, California USA > > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Sun Mar 29 12:32:17 2009 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:32:17 +0100 Subject: [SEL] First show of the season References: <20090329.102411.1052.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <003501c9b0a5$1328c060$3a290556@intrepid> Hi Ron, If you are using Outlook Express I find the setting to use in O.E. is to set Tools/Options/Send/Mail Text Formats/Plain Text Setting to 132. You can then hit return to get a wrap when you want it! See http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/HighlandCitrusFestoval2009?authkey=Gv1sRgCMexx6qmyZ6b2gE# Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 7:24 PM Subject: [SEL] First show of the season > Hi all. > My local club WAPA (Western Antique Power Associates) was invited to > participate in the Highland Citrus Festival in Highland CA. Here are > some pictures of our display. It was a beautiful Southern California > day, with temps in the low 80's, clear skies, and gentle breezes, and > best of all good friends. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/HighlandCitrusFestoval2009?authkey > =Gv1sRgCMexx6qmyZ6b2gE# > > Ron Haskell > rdhaskell at juno.com > Riverside, California USA > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > ____________________________________________________________ > Hit the slopes! Click now for great packages for your ski vacation! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLw9V9wuDlam6Tf5Yy3yDfJZ7mZHzZv7OoRgC0nkOveXEVLCYVHEU/ > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.285 / Virus Database: 270.11.31/2028 - Release Date: 03/28/09 07:16:00 From rdhaskell at juno.com Sun Mar 29 14:06:14 2009 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:06:14 -0800 Subject: [SEL] First show of the season Message-ID: <20090329.130614.1864.0.rdhaskell@juno.com> Thanks Dave. I am not using Outlook Express. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:32:17 +0100 "Dave Croft" writes: > Hi Ron, If you are using Outlook Express I find the setting to use in > O.E. > is to set Tools/Options/Send/Mail Text Formats/Plain Text Setting to > 132. > You can then hit return to get a wrap when you want it! See > http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/HighlandCitrusFestoval2009?authkey =Gv1sRgCMexx6qmyZ6b2gE# > Dave Croft > Warrington > http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > ____________________________________________________________ Click to compare refinance loan offers from national lenders. Apply fast & easy online. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTFDGKInisxsyZJXH3t2LetKwekMmvYmVGwdJbz1pUgVZvym74ZB2Q/ From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Sun Mar 29 17:34:27 2009 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:34:27 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? Message-ID: <49D01393.9080109@optusnet.com.au> I'm becoming convinced that my workshop lies in an area overlapped by an alternative universe and ours. Evidence: Case 1. Quite regularly pieces of my equipment (e.g., tools, parts, instruments), simply disappear if I take my eyes off them for an instant. Shortly afterwards, they reappear, often now to be found in a place nearby but where certainly I did not put them. Case 2. If I drop a part, usually a small screw or similar article, it is useless to look for it immediately. It has been spirited away for examination, possible even to be reproduced for their own projects, then replaced quite soon after, quite undamaged but often feeling slightly warm - they must be quick workers. I have learned not to bother to look for anything I have dropped immediately, but after a short while it may be found, but not always exactly where a reasonable person would expect it to be. Conclusion: The inhabitants of this universe seem to be mischievious but so far, irritating but harmless to me. I have theorised that they may even be engaged in the restoration of old machinery, even to the extent of projects identical with mine, as they seem to take a keen interest in my projects. Queries: 1. How do I block a worm-hole? 2. Has this phenomenon been experienced elsewhere or is there a better explanation for these perplexing happenings which have been increasing in frequency in recent years? 3. Mrs JW claims occasionally to have spotted an old man with a long white beard and carrying a scythe in the vicinity. Any co-relationshsip? JW? From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Mar 29 17:55:18 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:55:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? References: <49D01393.9080109@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <004701c9b0d2$3252d5c0$66674b47@mikecomp> Odd, we must be on the same parallel. I just assumned it was only happening to me, then just last week the same things occurred to me as you, and my brother was no where around to have stolen, I mean moved these things. It could be magnetism and old iron!. MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 8:34 PM Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? I'm becoming convinced that my workshop lies in an area overlapped by an alternative universe and ours. Evidence: Case 1. Quite regularly pieces of my equipment (e.g., tools, parts, instruments), simply disappear if I take my eyes off them for an instant. Shortly afterwards, they reappear, often now to be found in a place nearby but where certainly I did not put them. Case 2. If I drop a part, usually a small screw or similar article, it is useless to look for it immediately. It has been spirited away for examination, possible even to be reproduced for their own projects, then replaced quite soon after, quite undamaged but often feeling slightly warm - they must be quick workers. I have learned not to bother to look for anything I have dropped immediately, but after a short while it may be found, but not always exactly where a reasonable person would expect it to be. Conclusion: The inhabitants of this universe seem to be mischievious but so far, irritating but harmless to me. I have theorised that they may even be engaged in the restoration of old machinery, even to the extent of projects identical with mine, as they seem to take a keen interest in my projects. Queries: 1. How do I block a worm-hole? 2. Has this phenomenon been experienced elsewhere or is there a better explanation for these perplexing happenings which have been increasing in frequency in recent years? 3. Mrs JW claims occasionally to have spotted an old man with a long white beard and carrying a scythe in the vicinity. Any co-relationshsip? JW? _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jopeter at omninet.net.au Sun Mar 29 20:39:00 2009 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:39:00 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? References: <49D01393.9080109@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <65ABB9597B5D497F8723BB56F0F1A4A1@your9e74d7efa7> Jack ,it is called ''Old Age'' BTW how are you apart from the stated problem ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:34 AM Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? > I'm becoming convinced that my workshop lies in an area overlapped by an > alternative universe and ours. > > Evidence: > Case 1. Quite regularly pieces of my equipment (e.g., tools, parts, > instruments), simply disappear if I take my eyes off them for an > instant. Shortly afterwards, they reappear, often now to be found in a > place nearby but where certainly I did not put them. > > Case 2. If I drop a part, usually a small screw or similar article, it > is useless to look for it immediately. It has been spirited away for > examination, possible even to be reproduced for their own projects, then > replaced quite soon after, quite undamaged but often feeling slightly > warm - they must be quick workers. I have learned not to bother to look > for anything I have dropped immediately, but after a short while it may > be found, but not always exactly where a reasonable person would expect > it to be. > > Conclusion: The inhabitants of this universe seem to be mischievious but > so far, irritating but harmless to me. I have theorised that they may > even be engaged in the restoration of old machinery, even to the extent > of projects identical with mine, as they seem to take a keen interest in > my projects. > > Queries: > 1. How do I block a worm-hole? > 2. Has this phenomenon been experienced elsewhere or is there a better > explanation for these perplexing happenings which have been increasing > in frequency in recent years? > 3. Mrs JW claims occasionally to have spotted an old man with a long > white beard and carrying a scythe in the vicinity. Any co-relationshsip? > > JW? > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From gibsongus at earthlink.net Sun Mar 29 22:30:44 2009 From: gibsongus at earthlink.net (Gus) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 01:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] First show of the season Message-ID: <27682854.1238391044416.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Ron I can't see the pics. all I get is server error... GUS -----Original Message----- >From: rdhaskell at juno.com >Sent: Mar 29, 2009 5:06 PM >To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >Subject: Re: [SEL] First show of the season > >Thanks Dave. I am not using Outlook Express. > >Ron Haskell >rdhaskell at juno.com >Riverside, California USA >http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell > >On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:32:17 +0100 "Dave Croft" >writes: >> Hi Ron, If you are using Outlook Express I find the setting to use in >> O.E. >> is to set Tools/Options/Send/Mail Text Formats/Plain Text Setting to >> 132. >> You can then hit return to get a wrap when you want it! See >> >http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell/HighlandCitrusFestoval2009?authkey >=Gv1sRgCMexx6qmyZ6b2gE# >> Dave Croft >> Warrington >> http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ >> http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv >> >____________________________________________________________ >Click to compare refinance loan offers from national lenders. Apply fast & easy online. >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTFDGKInisxsyZJXH3t2LetKwekMmvYmVGwdJbz1pUgVZvym74ZB2Q/ >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------- Gus Whittier, CA From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Mon Mar 30 03:00:01 2009 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:00:01 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? OT. In-Reply-To: <004701c9b0d2$3252d5c0$66674b47@mikecomp> References: <49D01393.9080109@optusnet.com.au> <004701c9b0d2$3252d5c0$66674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <1C112416B0A0441CA3D63AA0B96D366A@KerryPC> Mike you must be on some different parallel to me as you answered Jack at 12.15pm Sydney time but Jack only asked the question at 12.59pm. cannot blame the good Oyster this time. Kerry > Odd, we must be on the same parallel. I just assumned it was only > happening > to me, then just last week the same things occurred to me as you, and my > brother was no where around to have stolen, I mean moved these things. It > could be magnetism and old iron!. From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Mar 30 09:50:31 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:50:31 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090330184341.027186e0@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 30/03/2009, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:39:00 +0800 >From: "peter ogborne" >Subject: Re: [SEL] Parallel Universe? > >Jack ,it is called ''Old Age'' BTW how are you apart from the stated >problem ? No Peter, I think you have it wrong there! The same thing happens to me and even did when I was much younger! The frustrating part is that it usually only happens with tools or parts of which you only have "1 in stock". These characters often "return" it straight after I've driven 20 miles and back to buy a replacement :-) Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From Germoamer at aol.com Mon Mar 30 13:38:43 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:38:43 EDT Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? Message-ID: In a message dated 3/29/2009 8:43:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nadejack at optusnet.com.au writes: I drop a part, usually a small screw or similar article, it is useless to look for it immediately I have a large horseshoe magnet that helps to confuse the universe's parallel lines and locate dropped parts! Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> This mornings parallel visit, I decided to change the blade of a Stanley knife, all went well new blade, two halves back together, put the screw in, where's the screw that I pulled out a minute ago, after cleaning the bench down, sweeping the workshop floor and on hands and knees looking at all places it could have fallen then redoing it all again. 1 1/2 hr later I found it, yes in the garbage bin with the old blade, must have thrown both away I was 60 yesterday so I think old age is now with me :-(( Kerry > > > I have a large horseshoe magnet that helps to confuse the universe's > parallel lines and locate dropped parts! From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Mar 30 16:41:26 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:41:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> References: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> Message-ID: Happy Birthday Kerry!!! you're still a youngster! Steve > From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:14:22 +1100 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Parallel Universe? > > This mornings parallel visit, I decided to change the blade of a Stanley > knife, all went well new blade, two halves back together, put the screw in, > where's the screw that I pulled out a minute ago, after cleaning the bench > down, sweeping the workshop floor and on hands and knees looking at all > places it could have fallen then redoing it all again. 1 1/2 hr later I > found it, yes in the garbage bin with the old blade, must have thrown both > away > I was 60 yesterday so I think old age is now with me :-(( > > Kerry > > > > > > > > > I have a large horseshoe magnet that helps to confuse the universe's > > parallel lines and locate dropped parts! > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_032009 From page at velocitynet.com.au Mon Mar 30 16:50:30 2009 From: page at velocitynet.com.au (Ron Page) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:50:30 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> Message-ID: <000b01c9b192$4f3f9b80$6c3bfea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> Hey Kerry 60 isn't old. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2009 9:14 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Parallel Universe? This mornings parallel visit, I decided to change the blade of a Stanley knife, all went well new blade, two halves back together, put the screw in, where's the screw that I pulled out a minute ago, after cleaning the bench down, sweeping the workshop floor and on hands and knees looking at all places it could have fallen then redoing it all again. 1 1/2 hr later I found it, yes in the garbage bin with the old blade, must have thrown both away I was 60 yesterday so I think old age is now with me :-(( Kerry > > > I have a large horseshoe magnet that helps to confuse the universe's > parallel lines and locate dropped parts! _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - Release Date: 20/03/2009 7:01 PM From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Mar 30 18:29:53 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:29:53 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? References: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> Message-ID: <002601c9b1a0$316e3680$66674b47@mikecomp> Fear not Kerry. I spent the weekend with Steve working on engines and I heard him on many occasion ask where he left the adjustable wrench! Pictures to follow in a bit. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Parallel Universe? > This mornings parallel visit, I decided to change the blade of a Stanley > knife, all went well new blade, two halves back together, put the screw > in, > where's the screw that I pulled out a minute ago, after cleaning the bench > down, sweeping the workshop floor and on hands and knees looking at all > places it could have fallen then redoing it all again. 1 1/2 hr later I > found it, yes in the garbage bin with the old blade, must have thrown both > away > I was 60 yesterday so I think old age is now with me :-(( > > Kerry > > > >> >> >> I have a large horseshoe magnet that helps to confuse the universe's >> parallel lines and locate dropped parts! > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Mon Mar 30 18:36:03 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:36:03 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> Message-ID: Happy Birthday Kerry! Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From endacomm10 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 30 20:11:58 2009 From: endacomm10 at yahoo.com (S. Work) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? Message-ID: <870399.59976.qm@web65402.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> 'IN GOD WE TRUST' --- On Mon, 3/30/09, Jerry Evans wrote: From: Jerry Evans Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 12:50 PM At 06:00 PM 30/03/2009, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:39:00 +0800 >From: "peter ogborne" >Subject: Re: [SEL] Parallel Universe? > >Jack ,it is called ''Old Age''???BTW how are you apart from the stated >problem ? No Peter, ? ? ? ???I think you have it wrong there! The same thing happens to me and even did when I was much younger! ? ? ? ???The frustrating part is that it usually only happens with tools or parts of which you only have "1 in stock". These characters often "return" it straight after I've driven 20 miles and back to buy a replacement :-) ? Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Tue Mar 31 01:15:59 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:15:59 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: <000b01c9b192$4f3f9b80$6c3bfea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> References: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> <000b01c9b192$4f3f9b80$6c3bfea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> Message-ID: <20090331081558.DB0EB3B442B@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> Bull shit it aint OLD hahahaha LOL Russ At 10:50 AM 31/03/2009, you wrote: >Hey Kerry 60 isn't old. > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry >Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2009 9:14 AM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] Parallel Universe? > >This mornings parallel visit, I decided to change the blade of a Stanley >knife, all went well new blade, two halves back together, put the screw in, >where's the screw that I pulled out a minute ago, after cleaning the bench >down, sweeping the workshop floor and on hands and knees looking at all >places it could have fallen then redoing it all again. 1 1/2 hr later I >found it, yes in the garbage bin with the old blade, must have thrown both >away >I was 60 yesterday so I think old age is now with me :-(( > >Kerry > > > > > > > > > I have a large horseshoe magnet that helps to confuse the universe's > > parallel lines and locate dropped parts! > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > >-- >Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.22/2015 - Release Date: 20/03/2009 >7:01 PM > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fbi at insulate.co.uk Tue Mar 31 02:05:56 2009 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:05:56 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> References: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> Message-ID: <49D1DCF4.1020208@insulate.co.uk> Rubbish, Kerry - just look at Dave! Now THAT's old. Happy birthday for yesterday! Jim & Dolly Kerry wrote: > I was 60 yesterday so I think old age is now with me :-(( > > Kerry > > > -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Tue Mar 31 03:43:31 2009 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:43:31 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: <49D1DCF4.1020208@insulate.co.uk> References: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> <49D1DCF4.1020208@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <619E1434CB8F483BABF51F2C1268820C@KerryPC> Ain't that the truth > Rubbish, Kerry - just look at Dave! Now THAT's old. > From cgandree at mchsi.com Tue Mar 31 04:02:14 2009 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:02:14 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> References: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> Message-ID: <033120091102.21560.49D1F836000E1FA900005438223045151403010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Hey mate so long as you can keep enjoying all the "porn" you send out you're not too old yet! "HAPPY BIRTHDAY" and many more. Curt -------------- Original message from "Kerry" : -------------- > This mornings parallel visit, I decided to change the blade of a Stanley > knife, all went well new blade, two halves back together, put the screw in, > where's the screw that I pulled out a minute ago, after cleaning the bench > down, sweeping the workshop floor and on hands and knees looking at all > places it could have fallen then redoing it all again. 1 1/2 hr later I > found it, yes in the garbage bin with the old blade, must have thrown both > away > I was 60 yesterday so I think old age is now with me :-(( > > Kerry > > > > > > > > > I have a large horseshoe magnet that helps to confuse the universe's > > parallel lines and locate dropped parts! > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Tue Mar 31 04:27:09 2009 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:27:09 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: <65ABB9597B5D497F8723BB56F0F1A4A1@your9e74d7efa7> References: <49D01393.9080109@optusnet.com.au> <65ABB9597B5D497F8723BB56F0F1A4A1@your9e74d7efa7> Message-ID: <49D1FE0D.3040603@optusnet.com.au> peter ogborne wrote: > Jack ,it is called ''Old Age'' BTW how are you apart from the stated > problem ? > Old? Pshaw! I had my nineteenth and a quarter birthday on the last day of February - but then, I only get a birthday every 4 years . . . But thanks for the message. JW? From Germoamer at aol.com Tue Mar 31 04:43:39 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 07:43:39 EDT Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? Message-ID: In a message dated 3/30/2009 6:24:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ozengine at optusnet.com.au writes: I found it, yes in the garbage bin with the old blade That is why they put "car finders" on your key chain now. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Mar 31 09:57:00 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:57:00 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 60, Issue 27 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090331185536.01f1e730@mail.cyberserv.co.za> At 06:00 PM 31/03/2009, you wrote: >From: "Kerry" >Subject: Re: [SEL] Parallel Universe? > >I was 60 yesterday so I think old age is now with me :-(( >Kerry Happy (belated) Birthday Kerry, You beat me to it by a few months. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jneth3 at mac.com Tue Mar 31 10:42:39 2009 From: jneth3 at mac.com (John Neth) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:42:39 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: <49D1DCF4.1020208@insulate.co.uk> References: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> <49D1DCF4.1020208@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: You know you are getting old when the kid at the fast food place gives you the senior discount before you ask. Just hit 62. And if they question if you are a senior citizen you are so impressed by your youthful look you pay full price. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 31, 2009, at 5:05 AM, Jim French wrote: > Rubbish, Kerry - just look at Dave! Now THAT's old. > > Happy birthday for yesterday! > > Jim & Dolly > > > Kerry wrote: >> I was 60 yesterday so I think old age is now with me :-(( >> >> Kerry >> >> >> > > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Tue Mar 31 15:02:27 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:02:27 +1100 Subject: [SEL] Parallel Universe? In-Reply-To: <619E1434CB8F483BABF51F2C1268820C@KerryPC> References: <65BD33EA37FC48F8BA61C4831B7D91C4@KerryPC> <49D1DCF4.1020208@insulate.co.uk> <619E1434CB8F483BABF51F2C1268820C@KerryPC> Message-ID: <20090331220225.BE28931863D@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Kerry only because we are good pals I must let you in a secrete, We have some fellow engine collectors who very much take grate pride & enjoy with their VINTAGE (OLD) stationary engines built in the 40's !!! Sorry to all you OLD Codgers out there but it looks like the numbers are against you! :-) PS: just remember; when you feel like that older than you hunk of iron is getting a bit much for you, let me (a much younger collector) know, I can help you get it out the way At 09:43 PM 31/03/2009, you wrote: >Ain't that the truth > > > > Rubbish, Kerry - just look at Dave! Now THAT's old. > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From ozengine at yahoo.com.au Tue Mar 31 20:43:25 2009 From: ozengine at yahoo.com.au (Graham Harris) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] 60 Message-ID: <834171.88111.qm@web32208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Shit Kerry, I'm 55 this month and I thought that was old. Happy birthday for yesterday, old timer. Graham Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:14:22 +1100 From: "Kerry" Subject: Re: [SEL] Parallel Universe? I was 60 yesterday so I think old age is now with me :-(( Kerry The new Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7: Faster, Safer, Easier.