From page at velocitynet.com.au Wed Jul 1 00:30:59 2009 From: page at velocitynet.com.au (Ron Page) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:30:59 +1000 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road In-Reply-To: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <003d01c9fa1d$e12feda0$6c3bfea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> Hi Russell The times I have driven in the US I found that sitting in the left sit and driving on the RH side of the road the most natural of situations and had no problems with the turns or entries to freeways. The only piece of advice I was given before going over there was to think about the inside rear vision mirror - we automatically look up to the left, over there you have to think up to the right. Best advice I was given. Ron Canberra -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell Gilbert Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 8:36 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road G'day All, just asking for some thoughts of those who may be in the know. We are still planing (trying to at least) our road trip from Chicago to Buffalo, back to Detroit, Across the lake on the ferry to Baraboo!. I have had plenty say driving is easy because of all the great roads/freeways. We have plenty of time to poke about have a sticky nose at all kinds of things. Saying this I'm sure these great roads by-pass many great points of interest. Anyone having some suggestion on when to take a left or right hand turn off the freeways to perhaps pass by some good old looking towns etc please feel free to contact us off list russell at ncable.com.au PS: thanks to Arnie we have a great collection of maps and travel planers and continually check them over. Just always good to hear from some of the locals? regards Russell _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Wed Jul 1 01:38:25 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:38:25 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Twin cylinder Bartram In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The twin cylinder Bartram belongs to a fellow collector. I have a single cylinder 5hp Bartram. http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Graphics/bartrtamt1.JPG The twin cylinder engine is made up of two 5hp cylinders on a common crank. Bartram engines were made for J Bartram & Son, Melbourne by Kelly & Lewis. > Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Jul 1 03:30:18 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 06:30:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Zippers References: <410-2200973133048343@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <002b01c9fa36$ee80b480$83674b47@mikecomp> I'll be there. Bring the twin! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Christoff" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Zippers > Too late Steve, my eyes have now been opened to whatever that thing was > that you so lovingly call Zippers. I must say Dude, get some help! That > is nasty. Though I can see one good side to it, just think of the all > around coverage you can get from that, provided both halfs can work > independently of one another. Mike, untarp those engines and bring them > to > Portland and we can work a deal, your brother seems to be "Split" on lifes > choices. > > Tim > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Steve Royster >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Date: 6/30/2009 11:41:13 AM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Zippers >> >> >> I claim temporary amnesia and hope no one on the EHOWT trip has pictures > to prove otherwise! Steve >> >> >> >> >> >> > From: tchristoff at earthlink.net >> > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:13:15 -0500 >> > Subject: Re: [SEL] Zippers >> > >> > >> > What say you Steve? >> > >> > > [Original Message] >> > > From: Arnie Fero >> > > To: The SEL email discussion list >> > > Date: 6/27/2009 10:48:57 AM >> > > >> > > What happened in Belgium, stays in Belgium. Now if Steve wants to >> > > post >> > pics... >> > > >> > > >> > >> > Tim >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SEL mailing list >> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. >> > http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria > l_Storage_062009 >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From flywheelin at hotmail.com Wed Jul 1 04:22:17 2009 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:22:17 +0000 Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT In-Reply-To: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop> References: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop> Message-ID: I've seen that one before......... I ran across this one yesterday and was the first time I heard it....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqXZt0aQvvM Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ============================ > From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:06:50 -0400 > Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > Off topic, but just worthwhile... > > http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094 > > > Jim in Vermont > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jul 1 04:40:38 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:40:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road In-Reply-To: <1D2AA3BA-7C0B-4127-ABFC-93655EFD95A3@me.com> References: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <1D2AA3BA-7C0B-4127-ABFC-93655EFD95A3@me.com> Message-ID: <20090701114035.90F23FC18A@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> Dave it reminds me of a few thoughts I have had since planing the trip! I was wondering just what plan of action I should take if I was to accidently drive down the WRONG street into a non friendly neighborhood. I might need to come buy your place to freshen up my self defence skills before wondering off into the great big US of A! At 09:25 AM 1/07/2009, you wrote: >Hi Russ, Be sure to stop by Cody 9th Grade Academy while in Detriot. I >understand that thinge are wild there from time to time! (See: >http://freep.com/article/20090630/NEWS01/90630050/Gunfire+wounds+7+Detroit+teens++3+critically) > Dave > >On Jun 30, 2009, at 6:36 PM, Russell Gilbert wrote: > > > G'day All, just asking for some thoughts of those who may be in the > > know. We are still planing (trying to at least) our road trip from > > Chicago to Buffalo, back to Detroit, Across the lake on the ferry to > > Baraboo!. I have had plenty say driving is easy because of all the > > great roads/freeways. We have plenty of time to poke about have a > > sticky nose at all kinds of things. Saying this I'm sure these great > > roads by-pass many great points of interest. Anyone having some > > suggestion on when to take a left or right hand turn off the freeways > > to perhaps pass by some good old looking towns etc please feel free > > to contact us off list russell at ncable.com.au > > > > PS: thanks to Arnie we have a great collection of maps and travel > > planers and continually check them over. Just always good to hear > > from some of the locals? > > > > regards Russell >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jul 1 04:46:40 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:46:40 +1000 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20090630200311.0c2e7840@ncweb.com> References: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <5.2.0.9.0.20090630200311.0c2e7840@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <20090701114635.144CA198835@gex-cn01.ncable.net.au> Thanks Dave, just the kind of response we were hoping for. Some good ideas there and will give us some more searching on google etc. I Helen is reading; I have been trying to con Carmel into doing the white water rafting thing! She recons she will stay home if we are gonna do that :-( bOO hOO Keep em coming if you wish. Cheers, Russ At 10:43 AM 1/07/2009, you wrote: >Depending on the timing, there are a lot of shows all over the place >at this time of year. Many people focus on the big event shows, >but there's usually something interesting at even the smaller ones. > >Also, many shows spill back into midweek, so you don't need to >catch them on a weekend. > >One item is to take the coal fired steam ferry from Ludington >to Manitowoc, instead of the shiny new boring one to Baraboo, >although the big circus museum in Baraboo is worthwhile. > >On the west edge of Manitowoc is the Manitowoc crane factory >and training facility, with always a bunch of ginormous machines >sitting out to look at...ie, a lowboy trailer filled with a single crawler >track. >Their licensed toy store is there too, where you can spend big $$$ easily. > >Also depending on the time you have allotted, you could do the >Lake Erie Circle Tour, which circles the lake shore on very well >paved 2-lane roads near the lake shore. You can make good time >on these roads, with plenty of scenery all along the way. >The tour route is designated and marked with signs. >Note that the Great Lakes are not lakes in the usual sense, >but big freshwater seas. There are wineries all along >the Lake Erie shore, especially east of Erie. > >If you're into railroads, one of the busiest, fastest, and highest >tonnage main lines in the world runs from Chicago to Buffalo, >ex New York Central, always within a couple miles of the lake, >paralleled by a second, more picturesque line, ex Nickel Plate. > >There are a series of lake ports along the Ohio shore where you >can see really old freighters, some still steam, or diesel conversions >that still use steam for the winches and auxiliaries. The oldest, >homeported Milwaukee, is from 1906, the second oldest >is from 1929, and many are from the 1940's. > >Toledo has a lake freighter museum from the 1920's, Cleveland >has a WW-II sub in unmodified condition, and a lake freighter >from 1926, Erie has the Brig Niagara, unless it is out on tour, >and a big machinery museum, and Buffalo has a naval museum >with 3 good ships. Just west of the city dock in Erie is an old >water works, with one of the original big triple expansion steam >pumping engines still there to see, although not "presented". > >North of Buffalo, is the Welland canal, which has plenty >of both laker and salties traffic. > >This is quite a list, and barely scratches the surface. > >Have fun! >Dave Merchant > > >At 06:36 PM 6/30/2009, Russell Gilbert wrote: > >G'day All, just asking for some thoughts of those who may be in the > >know. We are still planing (trying to at least) our road trip from > >Chicago to Buffalo, back to Detroit, Across the lake on the ferry to > >Baraboo!. I have had plenty say driving is easy because of all the > >great roads/freeways. We have plenty of time to poke about have a > >sticky nose at all kinds of things. Saying this I'm sure these great > >roads by-pass many great points of interest. Anyone having some > >suggestion on when to take a left or right hand turn off the freeways > >to perhaps pass by some good old looking towns etc please feel free > >to contact us off list russell at ncable.com.au > > > >PS: thanks to Arnie we have a great collection of maps and travel > >planers and continually check them over. Just always good to hear > >from some of the locals? > > > >regards Russell > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >Dave Merchant >kosh at nesys.com >nesys_com at ameritech.net >dmerchant at layerzero.com > >http://www.nesys.com >http://www.nesys.org >YouTube: SteamCrane > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edstoller at earthlink.net Wed Jul 1 04:55:54 2009 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:55:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Connecticut show References: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <8CBC80D863E48D0-16F8-1E6C@Webmail-mg20.sim.aol.com> Message-ID: <4294209CE86F484683ED6BE9DDDE232C@Ed> I don't see it on my Yankee Show List, 2009. Snail mail them: Nutmeg State Flywheelers P.O. Box 6164 Wolcott, CT 07616 Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Connecticut show > ?There will be an engine and tractor?show at Bethany airport?July 10-12.? > We are trying to get a large group of antique lawn and garden stuff.?There > is plenty of room.??This show is not in the show directory. > > ? > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From fbi at insulate.co.uk Wed Jul 1 06:46:27 2009 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:46:27 +0100 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road In-Reply-To: <20090701114635.144CA198835@gex-cn01.ncable.net.au> References: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <5.2.0.9.0.20090630200311.0c2e7840@ncweb.com> <20090701114635.144CA198835@gex-cn01.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <4A4B68B3.3040405@insulate.co.uk> Hi Russell Tell her it's great fun. Especially when everyone else falls in the water!!! On our last trip, one woman insisted on being taken to the shore so she could get out because she was getting WET! Can you believe it? Sometimes you just have to be a little adventurous, and it was a treat for our boys in return for them putting up with a lot of engines during the trip. Dolly Russell Gilbert wrote: > I Helen is reading; I have been trying to con Carmel into doing the > white water rafting thing! She recons she will stay home if we are > gonna do that :-( bOO hOO > > -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Jul 1 07:59:42 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:59:42 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road In-Reply-To: <20090701114035.90F23FC18A@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> References: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <1D2AA3BA-7C0B-4127-ABFC-93655EFD95A3@me.com> <20090701114035.90F23FC18A@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <41E77DF9-B783-4445-99A1-D9CE143B8332@rustyiron.com> Russ watches a lot of movies, he does. But if it makes you and the missus feel better, we can hook you up with parachutes and scary black rifles. Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com On Jul 1, 2009, at 4:40 AM, Russell Gilbert wrote: > Dave it reminds me of a few thoughts I have had since planing the > trip! I was wondering just what plan of action I should take if I was > to accidently drive down the WRONG street into a non friendly > neighborhood. I might need to come buy your place to freshen up my > self defence skills before wondering off into the great big US of A! From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Wed Jul 1 09:20:10 2009 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:20:10 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Pictures from 1000 egine at Astle Park & Ansons Museum Message-ID: <004301c9fa67$d13e5b30$42920556@intrepid> Last weekend. see http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ullerman/1000Engine09# for the show & http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ullerman/AnsonMuseum09# for a little of the museum. The museum has increased quite a lot in the last year. Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From rotigel at me.com Wed Jul 1 10:51:44 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:51:44 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road In-Reply-To: <20090701114035.90F23FC18A@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> References: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <1D2AA3BA-7C0B-4127-ABFC-93655EFD95A3@me.com> <20090701114035.90F23FC18A@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: Hi Russ, I can provide everything you need. There are two problems, however. First, in most states in the USA you cannot get a concealed carry permit if you are a foreign national here for only a short time. Second, since you have little current experience in marksmenship, you probably should be armed with an auto piece. Not to worry, however, for there is a solution to these problems. While it is true that here in the USA YOU will not be able to get a CC permit, YOU can carry OPENLY in most places. (This is because we still have freedom here and can even drive on the right side of the road!) The second problem is also easily solved. We will outfit you with a MAC 10 with a sling on it! You put the sling over your shoulder and the piece is in the open and thus you are breaking no laws! Dave PS, Seriously, you will have no problem here in the USA. Stay out of the inner cities and you will find EVERYONE friendly and helpful! PPS, You aren't going to Kansas, are you? There is a farmer there (who has a 16 year old daughter and a 2 year old grandchild) who is still looking for some guy with a funny accent and and bad knees from OZ. He would probably NOT be too friendly! On Jul 1, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Russell Gilbert wrote: > Dave it reminds me of a few thoughts I have had since planing the > trip! I was wondering just what plan of action I should take if I was > to accidently drive down the WRONG street into a non friendly > neighborhood. I might need to come buy your place to freshen up my > self defence skills before wondering off into the great big US of A! > > At 09:25 AM 1/07/2009, you wrote: >> Hi Russ, Be sure to stop by Cody 9th Grade Academy while in >> Detriot. I >> understand that thinge are wild there from time to time! (See: >> http://freep.com/article/20090630/NEWS01/90630050/Gunfire+wounds+7+Detroit+teens++3+critically) >> Dave >> >> On Jun 30, 2009, at 6:36 PM, Russell Gilbert wrote: >> >>> G'day All, just asking for some thoughts of those who may be in the >>> know. We are still planing (trying to at least) our road trip from >>> Chicago to Buffalo, back to Detroit, Across the lake on the ferry to >>> Baraboo!. I have had plenty say driving is easy because of all the >>> great roads/freeways. We have plenty of time to poke about have a >>> sticky nose at all kinds of things. Saying this I'm sure these >>> great >>> roads by-pass many great points of interest. Anyone having some >>> suggestion on when to take a left or right hand turn off the >>> freeways >>> to perhaps pass by some good old looking towns etc please feel free >>> to contact us off list russell at ncable.com.au >>> >>> PS: thanks to Arnie we have a great collection of maps and travel >>> planers and continually check them over. Just always good to hear >>> from some of the locals? >>> >>> regards Russell >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Jul 1 11:20:48 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:20:48 EDT Subject: [SEL] Pictures from 1000 egine at Astle Park & Ansons Museum Message-ID: Dave, Some great looking engines there! Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************Dell Laptops: Huge Savings on Popular Laptops ? Deals starting at $399(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222883570x1201497211/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D0) From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Jul 1 15:29:57 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:29:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT References: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop> Message-ID: <000d01c9fa9b$773f93e0$83674b47@mikecomp> Where have you been???? This is over a year old. Obviously you been listening to that devil hippie rock and roll nonsense!!! Come on over to country boy!!!! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Tonneberger" To: "Engine List" Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT I've seen that one before......... I ran across this one yesterday and was the first time I heard it....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqXZt0aQvvM Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ============================ > From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:06:50 -0400 > Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > Off topic, but just worthwhile... > > http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094 > > > Jim in Vermont > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jul 1 15:50:15 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 08:50:15 +1000 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road In-Reply-To: <41E77DF9-B783-4445-99A1-D9CE143B8332@rustyiron.com> References: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <1D2AA3BA-7C0B-4127-ABFC-93655EFD95A3@me.com> <20090701114035.90F23FC18A@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> <41E77DF9-B783-4445-99A1-D9CE143B8332@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <20090701225008.93D3E3181D7@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Hey Rob LOLROF :-) Mate I was thinking I will have to find some place to go (like Nasty Daves!) and get dressed in some war paint, drive down the road in his red truck and have some photo's of us having fun with a makeshift drive by! Imagin the mileage I can get with some happy snaps back home then. Russ At 12:59 AM 2/07/2009, you wrote: >Russ watches a lot of movies, he does. But if it makes you and the >missus feel better, we can hook you up with parachutes and scary black >rifles. > > >Rob Skinner >Antique Stationary Engines >La Habra, California > >rob at rustyiron.com >www.rustyiron.com > > > > > >On Jul 1, 2009, at 4:40 AM, Russell Gilbert wrote: > > > Dave it reminds me of a few thoughts I have had since planing the > > trip! I was wondering just what plan of action I should take if I was > > to accidently drive down the WRONG street into a non friendly > > neighborhood. I might need to come buy your place to freshen up my > > self defence skills before wondering off into the great big US of A! > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mathjr at optusnet.com.au Wed Jul 1 22:48:14 2009 From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au (Renee Mathieson) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:48:14 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Mogul 4H.P. Message-ID: Can anyone tell me how much a 4 H.P. hopper cooled IHC Mogul on transport weighs please? Cheers John From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com Wed Jul 1 23:54:58 2009 From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:54:58 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Mogul 4H.P. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi John, going by my book the shipping weight for a 4hp portable mogul is 1950lbs,cheers Dave ps the breather is on its way to me. > From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:48:14 +1000 > Subject: [SEL] Mogul 4H.P. > > Can anyone tell me how much a 4 H.P. hopper cooled IHC Mogul on transport weighs please? Cheers John > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Looking for a new car this winter? Let us help with car news, reviews and more http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT From mathjr at optusnet.com.au Thu Jul 2 02:58:38 2009 From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au (Renee Mathieson) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:58:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Mogul 4H.P. References: Message-ID: <774752C95FCA4A56B23E082A223D8839@lightning> HiDave, Thanks on both counts. I drove past your place last Monday but it looked deserted. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Nicolson" To: "sel list" Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Mogul 4H.P. > > Hi John, going by my book the shipping weight for a 4hp portable mogul is > 1950lbs,cheers Dave ps the breather is on its way to me. > >> From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:48:14 +1000 >> Subject: [SEL] Mogul 4H.P. >> >> Can anyone tell me how much a 4 H.P. hopper cooled IHC Mogul on transport >> weighs please? Cheers John >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Looking for a new car this winter? Let us help with car news, reviews and > more > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From flywheelin at hotmail.com Thu Jul 2 04:56:18 2009 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:56:18 +0000 Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT In-Reply-To: <000d01c9fa9b$773f93e0$83674b47@mikecomp> References: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop> <000d01c9fa9b$773f93e0$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: Maybe it's a sign I'm beginning to get old :-) Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ==================== > From: mr at carolina.rr.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:29:57 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > Where have you been???? This is over a year old. Obviously you been > listening to that devil hippie rock and roll nonsense!!! Come on over to > country boy!!!! > > MR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Luke Tonneberger" > To: "Engine List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:22 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > I've seen that one before......... > > > > I ran across this one yesterday and was the first time I heard it....... > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqXZt0aQvvM > > Luke Tonneberger > > Rockford, Michigan > > USA > > ============================ > > > From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:06:50 -0400 > > Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > Off topic, but just worthwhile... > > > > http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094 > > > > > > Jim in Vermont _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Thu Jul 2 05:09:16 2009 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:09:16 +1000 Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT References: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop> <000d01c9fa9b$773f93e0$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <0569201AAA904827B35A1B9AE9015676@REG> Surely not!!? Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Tonneberger" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT Maybe it's a sign I'm beginning to get old :-) Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ==================== > From: mr at carolina.rr.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:29:57 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > Where have you been???? This is over a year old. Obviously you been > listening to that devil hippie rock and roll nonsense!!! Come on over to > country boy!!!! > > MR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Luke Tonneberger" > To: "Engine List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:22 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > I've seen that one before......... > > > > I ran across this one yesterday and was the first time I heard it....... > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqXZt0aQvvM > > Luke Tonneberger > > Rockford, Michigan > > USA > > ============================ > > > From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:06:50 -0400 > > Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > Off topic, but just worthwhile... > > > > http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094 > > > > > > Jim in Vermont _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From k_armstrong at arach.net.au Thu Jul 2 05:11:48 2009 From: k_armstrong at arach.net.au (kevin armstrong) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:11:48 +0800 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road References: <003d01c9fa1d$e12feda0$6c3bfea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> Message-ID: <761F3E379C8C4846A3BFAE396C6B3E4E@armstrong> Ron, Sit on the right hand side and let someone else drive (you know who), this would allow you to be able to point out all the things to see of interest and advise how to drive etc Been there done that Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong Collectors of old things Perth WA Australia Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member V.C.C. of WA. member k_armstrong at arach.net.au www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Page" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road > Hi Russell > > The times I have driven in the US I found that sitting in the left sit and > driving on the RH side of the road the most natural of situations and had > no > problems with the turns or entries to freeways. The only piece of advice > I > was given before going over there was to think about the inside rear > vision > mirror - we automatically look up to the left, over there you have to > think > up to the right. Best advice I was given. > > Ron > Canberra > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell > Gilbert > Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 8:36 AM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road > > G'day All, just asking for some thoughts of those who may be in the > know. We are still planing (trying to at least) our road trip from > Chicago to Buffalo, back to Detroit, Across the lake on the ferry to > Baraboo!. I have had plenty say driving is easy because of all the > great roads/freeways. We have plenty of time to poke about have a > sticky nose at all kinds of things. Saying this I'm sure these great > roads by-pass many great points of interest. Anyone having some > suggestion on when to take a left or right hand turn off the freeways > to perhaps pass by some good old looking towns etc please feel free > to contact us off list russell at ncable.com.au > > PS: thanks to Arnie we have a great collection of maps and travel > planers and continually check them over. Just always good to hear > from some of the locals? > > regards Russell > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Thu Jul 2 10:24:54 2009 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:24:54 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road Message-ID: "PPS, You aren't going to Kansas, are you? There is a farmer there (who has a 16 year old daughter and a 2 year old grandchild) who is still looking for some guy with a funny accent and and bad knees from OZ. He would probably NOT be too friendly!"No worries, Mate - I am currently in Colorado! That grandchild DOES look a lot like you, though. Damned unfortunate, too, as she is a girl. Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD, or Kansas, or Texas, or Colorado. Now and then Missouri, rarely Illinois. sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009 From jneth3 at mac.com Thu Jul 2 12:32:11 2009 From: jneth3 at mac.com (John Neth) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:32:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] engine in wheel Message-ID: <157939651343864266096388292858157080620-Webmail@me.com> A tractor collector friend just stopped by with a request. Someone asked him about the value of a garden tractor with an engine in the tire. He thinks the engine may be hit and miss as it had a magneto. Any ideas of what it is or where to look for information. Thanks John John W. Neth III 228 Old Milligan Highway Johnson City, TN 37601 423-434-0978 or 634 Elm St. Groveport, OH 43125-1216 614-836-3465 From james.kangas at timken.com Thu Jul 2 12:49:18 2009 From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:49:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Mogul 4H.P. References: Message-ID: It's interesting to see how times change. They call an engine that weighs almost a ton"portable". Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of David Nicolson Sent: Thu 7/2/2009 2:54 AM To: sel list Subject: Re: [SEL] Mogul 4H.P. Hi John, going by my book the shipping weight for a 4hp portable mogul is 1950lbs,cheers Dave ps the breather is on its way to me. > From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:48:14 +1000 > Subject: [SEL] Mogul 4H.P. > > Can anyone tell me how much a 4 H.P. hopper cooled IHC Mogul on transport weighs please? Cheers John > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Looking for a new car this winter? 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The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation From dtallman at accnorwalk.com Thu Jul 2 13:11:46 2009 From: dtallman at accnorwalk.com (Doug Tallman) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:11:46 -0400 Subject: [SEL] engine in wheel In-Reply-To: <157939651343864266096388292858157080620-Webmail@me.com> References: <157939651343864266096388292858157080620-Webmail@me.com> Message-ID: <4A4D1482.8020006@accnorwalk.com> John, sounds like it is probably a Kinkaid built by American Farm Machinery Corp. I'd need to see a picture to be sure. They made 5 different models and 4 had external mags. None were hit and miss governed. Doug Tallman John Neth wrote: > A tractor collector friend just stopped by with a request. Someone asked him about the value of a garden tractor with an engine in the tire. He thinks the engine may be hit and miss as it had a magneto. Any ideas of what it is or where to look for information. > > Thanks John > > > John W. Neth III > > 228 Old Milligan Highway > Johnson City, TN 37601 > 423-434-0978 > > > or > 634 Elm St. > Groveport, OH 43125-1216 > 614-836-3465 > _______________________________________________ > > From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Jul 2 13:48:00 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:48:00 EDT Subject: [SEL] Mogul 4H.P. Message-ID: In a message dated 7/2/2009 3:55:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, james.kangas at timken.com writes: It's interesting to see how times change. They call an engine that weighs almost a ton"portable". The "old people" were strong workers and not referred to as FATG. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************Dell Summer Savings: Cool Deals on Popular Laptops ? Shop Now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222696924x1201468348/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D1) From gastzt at aol.com Thu Jul 2 16:48:46 2009 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:48:46 EDT Subject: [SEL] engine in wheel Message-ID: Doug-- are you by some chance kin to a Pat Tallman in San Antonio>>>? Also I think I have one of those little garden plow things----engine in the wheel---will have to go see---too dang hot right now ha! Stan Zettner Old Stovers Pleasanton, Tx **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005) From jopeter at omninet.net.au Fri Jul 3 01:41:40 2009 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:41:40 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members Message-ID: Is there anyone please who is familier with this engine .It is the vertical two stroke . I would like an explanation of the governor and the carburator. From dtallman at accnorwalk.com Fri Jul 3 04:25:35 2009 From: dtallman at accnorwalk.com (Doug Tallman) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:25:35 -0400 Subject: [SEL] engine in wheel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A4DEAAF.4030002@accnorwalk.com> No relation that I know of, Stan. There was also another engine in the wheel cultivator called a Unitractor. It just used a Briggs engine mounted on rollers inside the wheel and drove with a belt. The Kinkaid units were built into the drive. Doug T gastzt at aol.com wrote: > Doug-- are you by some chance kin to a Pat Tallman in San Antonio>>>? > Also I think I have one of those little garden plow things----engine in > the wheel---will have to go see---too dang hot right now ha! > Stan Zettner > Old Stovers > Pleasanton, Tx > > From jdohagan at comcast.net Fri Jul 3 09:57:07 2009 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:57:07 -0700 Subject: [SEL] on line manuals Message-ID: <20090703165703.BF4F265B5A5@in02.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Happy holidays everyone. There was someone a while back that put a lot of manuals on line .Is it still available? I need the procedure for timing the magneto on a overstrike model international 1 ? horse ?M? . .Oh! while I?m here does anyone know of a source for medium size ?pot? mufflers? I could use one with a 2 ?? pipe intake. Thanks in advance for any help. Jimmy O?Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato,Ca. USA. Jim O'Hagan From mr at carolina.rr.com Fri Jul 3 10:07:55 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:07:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT References: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop> <000d01c9fa9b$773f93e0$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <007f01c9fc00$d3665b70$83674b47@mikecomp> Naaaaa, I bet with Brooke in the car you know every children's song there is!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Tonneberger" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT Maybe it's a sign I'm beginning to get old :-) Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ==================== > From: mr at carolina.rr.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:29:57 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > Where have you been???? This is over a year old. Obviously you been > listening to that devil hippie rock and roll nonsense!!! Come on over to > country boy!!!! > > MR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Luke Tonneberger" > To: "Engine List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:22 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > I've seen that one before......... > > > > I ran across this one yesterday and was the first time I heard it....... > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqXZt0aQvvM > > Luke Tonneberger > > Rockford, Michigan > > USA > > ============================ > > > From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:06:50 -0400 > > Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > Off topic, but just worthwhile... > > > > http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094 > > > > > > Jim in Vermont _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Fri Jul 3 10:21:49 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:21:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Pictures from 1000 egine at Astle Park & Ansons Museum References: <004301c9fa67$d13e5b30$42920556@intrepid> Message-ID: <008f01c9fc02$bfd17840$83674b47@mikecomp> Great pictures Dave! Having just completed the EHOWT I was glad to see some engines in your photos we got to see in person. Real beauties. Mike Royster ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Croft" To: "atis" Cc: "Oldengine.org" Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:20 PM Subject: Pictures from 1000 egine at Astle Park & Ansons Museum > Last weekend. see http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ullerman/1000Engine09# > for the show & > http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ullerman/AnsonMuseum09# > for a little of the museum. > The museum has increased quite a lot in the last year. > Dave Croft > Warrington > http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > > > To UN-subscribe, send a message to: > > stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org > with: > unsubscribe > in the subject of the message. Nothing else, no SIGs, etc. From kosh at ncweb.com Fri Jul 3 23:34:50 2009 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:34:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rumsey Gas Engine, Binghamton NY - YouTube Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20090704011714.0cca3d50@ncweb.com> Spent some quality time with a 12 hp Rumsey-Williams vertical portable today. Built by Rumsey Gas Engine, Binghamton NY, apparently late 1890's. Owner claims there are a total of 2 of these, the other is a 6 hp. Fascinating engine, with the entire portable carriage cast integral with the crank, beautiful sweeping casting. The valve + firing mechanicals are a bit different too... It looks slightly small to be a 12 hp, but that's how it's labeled. This is at the Ashtabula County engine show, Wayne Ohio. Guy will be there Saturday, but not Sunday as he's Amish, but I believe he plans to leave the engine there, and may get somebody to run it for him. Here are 2 YouTubes of it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uokwyDBy1xo&feature=channel_page http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6uFeqEdWDw&feature=channel_page Planning to go out there again Saturday, hopefully the light will be better. This just might be the most beautiful engine I've ever seen, your mileage may vary. Dave Merchant Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From kosh at ncweb.com Sat Jul 4 00:19:36 2009 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 03:19:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rumsey Gas Engine, Binghamton NY - YouTube Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20090704031931.0b839ec0@ncweb.com> Spent some quality time with a 12 hp Rumsey-Williams vertical portable today. Built by Rumsey Gas Engine, Binghamton NY, apparently late 1890's. Owner claims there are a total of 2 of these, the other is a 6 hp. Fascinating engine, with the entire portable carriage cast integral with the crank, beautiful sweeping casting. The valve + firing mechanicals are a bit different too... It looks slightly small to be a 12 hp, but that's how it's labeled. This is at the Ashtabula County engine show, Wayne Ohio. Guy will be there Saturday, but not Sunday as he's Amish, but I believe he plans to leave the engine there, and may get somebody to run it for him. Here are 2 YouTubes of it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uokwyDBy1xo&feature=channel_page http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6uFeqEdWDw&feature=channel_page Planning to go out there again Saturday, hopefully the light will be better. This just might be the most beautiful engine I've ever seen, your mileage may vary. Dave Merchant Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From rob at rustyiron.com Sat Jul 4 07:06:56 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 07:06:56 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Rumsey Gas Engine, Binghamton NY - YouTube In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20090704011714.0cca3d50@ncweb.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090704011714.0cca3d50@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <7A32B45E-17EB-40FD-9FCB-1D8979F3D390@rustyiron.com> That "unibody" design sure is an attention grabber. Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com On Jul 3, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Dave Merchant wrote: > Spent some quality time with a 12 hp Rumsey-Williams vertical > portable today. From steve_royster at hotmail.com Sat Jul 4 09:33:09 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 12:33:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rumsey Gas Engine, Binghamton NY - YouTube In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20090704031931.0b839ec0@ncweb.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090704031931.0b839ec0@ncweb.com> Message-ID: Hi Dave, Thanks for posting those videos of a most unusual engine, I believe there might be more than two however, I have seen two others besides this one, One in NY and one in Conn. I wish one were in my engine shed. Steve > Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 03:19:36 -0400 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > From: kosh at ncweb.com > Subject: [SEL] Rumsey Gas Engine, Binghamton NY - YouTube > > Spent some quality time with a 12 hp Rumsey-Williams vertical portable today. > > Built by Rumsey Gas Engine, Binghamton NY, apparently late 1890's. > Owner claims there are a total of 2 of these, the other is a 6 hp. > > Fascinating engine, with the entire portable carriage cast integral > with the crank, beautiful sweeping casting. > > The valve + firing mechanicals are a bit different too... > > It looks slightly small to be a 12 hp, but that's how it's labeled. > > This is at the Ashtabula County engine show, Wayne Ohio. > > Guy will be there Saturday, but not Sunday as he's Amish, > but I believe he plans to leave the engine there, and may > get somebody to run it for him. > > Here are 2 YouTubes of it... > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uokwyDBy1xo&feature=channel_page > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6uFeqEdWDw&feature=channel_page > > Planning to go out there again Saturday, hopefully the light will be better. > > This just might be the most beautiful engine I've ever seen, your mileage > may vary. > > Dave Merchant > > Dave Merchant > kosh at nesys.com > nesys_com at ameritech.net > dmerchant at layerzero.com > > http://www.nesys.com > http://www.nesys.org > YouTube: SteamCrane > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Sat Jul 4 17:35:59 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:35:59 +1000 Subject: [SEL] 4 th July In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090704213711.0222ae58@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Happy 4th of July from Oz. Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From jerrye at databak.co.za Sat Jul 4 12:55:18 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:55:18 +0200 Subject: [SEL] 4 th July Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090704213711.0222ae58@mail.cyberserv.co.za> To all my American friends, It's a bit late in the day (locally) but I hope that you all celebrated (or will celebrate) "Independence Day" in the way best befitting your own needs. I was quite amazed at the "quietness" leading up to this day this year. Not even "Google" changed their "banner" here (in South Africa) - in the past it has been "Stars & Stripes" and "Fireworks" - I wonder why ? Could this all be part of "Big Brother's" plan to discredit America (as in the U.S.A.) !! Not to worry, you still have many friends here - enjoy your celebrations. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From kosh at ncweb.com Sat Jul 4 23:16:57 2009 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:16:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 4 th July In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090704213711.0222ae58@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20090705003523.0cb35e20@ncweb.com> This is the first time in my life that we didn't celebrate the 4th. Things are pretty edgy here. Most recent polls indicate the US is now extremely polarized, with 33% "strongly approve", 35% "strongly disapprove", leaving less than 1/3 in the middle. Google "Tea Party". Dave Merchant At 03:55 PM 7/4/2009, you wrote: >To all my American friends, > It's a bit late in the day (locally) but I hope that you all >celebrated (or will celebrate) "Independence Day" in the way best befitting >your own needs. > > I was quite amazed at the "quietness" leading up to this day this >year. Not even "Google" changed their "banner" here (in South Africa) - in >the past it has been "Stars & Stripes" and "Fireworks" - I wonder why ? >Could this all be part of "Big Brother's" plan to discredit America (as in >the U.S.A.) !! > > Not to worry, you still have many friends here - enjoy your >celebrations. > >Keep the revs up (or down) >Jerry Evans >Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 5 05:21:42 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 05:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] 4 th July Message-ID: <276773.72842.qm@web37301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We didn't celebrate the 4th either. We just went to Mom's house and I set set up my 18' X 40' canopy and thirty some folks showed up with food. We ate and had fun watching the kids. Then they picked up their kids and stuff and I took my canopy down and came home. It was like Work, Fun, Work.? 8>)) Alan in Michigan --- On Sun, 7/5/09, Dave Merchant wrote: From: Dave Merchant Subject: Re: [SEL] 4 th July To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 2:16 AM This is the first time in my life that we didn't celebrate the 4th. Things are pretty edgy here. Most recent polls indicate the US is now extremely polarized, with 33% "strongly approve", 35% "strongly disapprove", leaving less than 1/3 in the middle. Google "Tea Party". Dave Merchant At 03:55 PM 7/4/2009, you wrote: >To all my American friends, >? ? ? ? ? It's a bit late in the day (locally) but I hope that you all >celebrated (or will celebrate) "Independence Day" in the way best befitting >your own needs. > >? ? ? ? ? I was quite amazed at the "quietness" leading up to this day this >year. Not even "Google" changed their "banner" here (in South Africa) - in >the past it has been "Stars & Stripes" and "Fireworks" - I wonder why ? >Could this all be part of "Big Brother's" plan to discredit America (as in >the U.S.A.) !! > >? ? ? ? ? Not to worry, you still have many friends here - enjoy your >celebrations. > >Keep the revs up (or down) >Jerry Evans >Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Sun Jul 5 07:12:07 2009 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 10:12:07 EDT Subject: [SEL] 1 HP National Engine Message-ID: Looking for a pulley for a 1 HP National engine can any of you boys over the pond help out. Thanks Kevin K _http://s975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/cwise83/Lewis%20Engines/_ (http://s975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/cwise83/Lewis%20Engines/) **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005) From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Jul 5 08:25:16 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 10:25:16 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 4 th July In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090704213711.0222ae58@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: Thank you for your kind comments on our beleaguered nation. I'm really concerned that we are going the way of other countries that have repeated the same mistakes that have been made many times over time. Soon, we could become a nation warring with itself and doomed to "salvation" by dictatorial rule. Maybe I won't live long enough to see it happen. Happy Independence Day........... Soon to be Dependence Day. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jerry Evans > Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 02:55 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; > stationary-engine at oldengine.org; > slick at toltbbs.com > Subject: [SEL] 4 th July > > > To all my American friends, > It's a bit late in the day (locally) but > I hope that you all > celebrated (or will celebrate) "Independence Day" > in the way best befitting > your own needs. > > I was quite amazed at the "quietness" > leading up to this day this > year. Not even "Google" changed their "banner" > here (in South Africa) - in > the past it has been "Stars & Stripes" and > "Fireworks" - I wonder why ? > Could this all be part of "Big Brother's" plan to > discredit America (as in > the U.S.A.) !! > > Not to worry, you still have many > friends here - enjoy your > celebrations. > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Mon Jul 6 05:08:52 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:08:52 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes Message-ID: Now a topic that I am sure will result in differing views; The definition of 'working clothes'. It is one that is seen and heard a lot these days but the definition seems fairly fluid. >From engines I have seen in their original working environments it can range from immaculately maintained to covered in muck and held together with bits of wire. Any opinions out there on 'working clothes'? Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon Jul 6 05:55:43 2009 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 08:55:43 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My view is working clothes means pulling it directly from the farm, factory or original setting and leaving it in its "natural" state including the grease, oil, gunk, etc. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 8:09 AM To: Oldengine; ATIS Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes Now a topic that I am sure will result in differing views; The definition of 'working clothes'. It is one that is seen and heard a lot these days but the definition seems fairly fluid. >From engines I have seen in their original working environments it can range from immaculately maintained to covered in muck and held together with bits of wire. Any opinions out there on 'working clothes'? Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bill at antique-engines.com Mon Jul 6 06:15:50 2009 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 06:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2770.165.206.180.130.1246886150.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> IMO, it "depends"......... Some original owners may have shedded an ending, kept it maintained according to the manual, never let it get scratched or used looking, much like some daily-driver cars can also be show cars. OTOH, some poorer farmer maybe had to keep it outside, do his best with makeshift repairs, didn't wipe it down because the grease and oil helped prevent rust, etc. So just like today's cars are maintained and used to different degrees, so were these engines. On one hand, every piece of wire, every weld, every patched tank is a piece of history - the history of that engine and the history of that owner. It's a part of what it was and who he/she was. I prefer concourse restorations to over-restored. I also enjoy seeing ORIGINAL - both at car shows and engine shows. My car is more show, part driver, so it's not a concourse restoration. If I get another one, it will be maintained to driver level. My engines are typically not over-restored. I don't aim for a mirror finish and chrome pipes where there was no chrome originally. I've got some that are fully gone over and repainted nicely, others are just like they were found, repaired only to make them run and work. A 1.5 hp Alamo has little paint, little original paint, is oily and greasy, but runs quite nicely. My chapman was SO bad, I had little choice! Same for the 1.5 hp M - it was total rust and everything about it was stuck. I like 'em both ways, and what I do with them depends on how I get them..... My opinions - you asked! Bill > My view is working clothes means pulling it directly from the farm, > factory or original setting and leaving it in its "natural" state > including the grease, oil, gunk, etc. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 8:09 AM > To: Oldengine; ATIS > Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes > > Now a topic that I am sure will result in differing views; The > definition of > 'working clothes'. It is one that is seen and heard a lot these days but > the > definition seems fairly fluid. >>From engines I have seen in their original working environments it can > range > from immaculately maintained to covered in muck and held together with > bits > of wire. > Any opinions out there on 'working clothes'? > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From falcon at telenet.net Mon Jul 6 07:23:26 2009 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:23:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A5208DE.1010607@telenet.net> Patrick wrote: > Now a topic that I am sure will result in differing views; The definition of > 'working clothes'. It is one that is seen and heard a lot these days but the > definition seems fairly fluid. >>From engines I have seen in their original working environments it can range > from immaculately maintained to covered in muck and held together with bits > of wire. > Any opinions out there on 'working clothes'? > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > I consider "working clothes" to mean a working machine. Not a high gloss trailer queen. Basically a machine pulled from actually doing it's job to come to the show. Maybe a quick wash job to get the worst of the mud/dirt/manure off and thats it. -- Steve Williams From flywheelin at hotmail.com Mon Jul 6 07:35:35 2009 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:35:35 +0000 Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT In-Reply-To: <007f01c9fc00$d3665b70$83674b47@mikecomp> References: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop> <000d01c9fa9b$773f93e0$83674b47@mikecomp> <007f01c9fc00$d3665b70$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: :-)) Yep, it's probably not a good thing when you know all the words to the Spongebob Square Pants theme song. Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ====================== > From: mr at carolina.rr.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:07:55 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > Naaaaa, I bet with Brooke in the car you know every children's song there > is!!!!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Luke Tonneberger" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:56 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > Maybe it's a sign I'm beginning to get old :-) > > Luke Tonneberger > > Rockford, Michigan > > USA > > ==================== > > > From: mr at carolina.rr.com > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:29:57 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > Where have you been???? This is over a year old. Obviously you been > > listening to that devil hippie rock and roll nonsense!!! Come on over to > > country boy!!!! > > > > MR > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Luke Tonneberger" > > To: "Engine List" > > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:22 AM > > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > > > > > I've seen that one before......... > > > > > > > > I ran across this one yesterday and was the first time I heard it....... > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqXZt0aQvvM > > > > Luke Tonneberger > > > > Rockford, Michigan > > > > USA > > > > ============================ > > > > > From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net > > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:06:50 -0400 > > > Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > > > Off topic, but just worthwhile... > > > > > > http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094 > > > > > > > > > Jim in Vermont _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 From bill at antique-engines.com Mon Jul 6 07:37:26 2009 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: <4A5208DE.1010607@telenet.net> References: <4A5208DE.1010607@telenet.net> Message-ID: <2910.165.206.180.130.1246891046.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> tsk-tsk-tsk - only if the run-off is captured in a holding area and disposed of properly. Bill >> > ............ Maybe a quick wash job to get the worst of the > mud/dirt/manure off and thats it. > > > -- > Steve Williams > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jlb94 at juno.com Mon Jul 6 07:47:03 2009 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:47:03 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes Message-ID: <20090706.074146.2464.13267@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com> IMO - "Working Clothes" is pretty much how you found it. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ (_o_) Keep Pennsylvania beautiful - Ban large pumpkin colored highway signs. On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:23:26 -0400 "Steve W." writes: > Patrick wrote: > > Now a topic that I am sure will result in differing views; The > definition of > > 'working clothes'. It is one that is seen and heard a lot these > days but the > > definition seems fairly fluid. > >>From engines I have seen in their original working environments it > can range > > from immaculately maintained to covered in muck and held together > with bits > > of wire. > > Any opinions out there on 'working clothes'? > > > > Patrick M Livingstone > > Leichhardt NSW > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > I consider "working clothes" to mean a working machine. Not a high > gloss > trailer queen. Basically a machine pulled from actually doing it's > job > to come to the show. Maybe a quick wash job to get the worst of the > mud/dirt/manure off and thats it. > > > -- > Steve Williams > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________ Find the right voice for your project by clicking here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTIbs9hTK9nVJsiTN8sMNwgP9gmOJHYTL3J7o4E43K47FolbIGRXbC/ From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Jul 6 09:37:06 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:37:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Patrick: I like 'em both ways. There's nothing nicer than a very old and fine engine that's restored to new condition. Some of those engines are really works of engineering art. Then, there's the engine that worked on a farm for a living and kept running with ingenuity and balin' wire. Those are nice to see, too. Although they look nice when over-restored, most of the commoner engines never were beauty queens. Even when they were new, they had pits and casting imperfections, sloppy paint and even some factory jury-rigging. To be authentic, they should not be restored to any better than they looked when they left the factory. Anyhoo - the engine belongs to the owner and he or she is free to do whatever rings their chimes. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Patrick > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 07:09 AM > To: Oldengine; ATIS > Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes ...................snip.................. > Any opinions out there on 'working clothes'? > > Patrick M Livingstone From falcon at telenet.net Mon Jul 6 09:16:59 2009 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:16:59 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: <2910.165.206.180.130.1246891046.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> References: <4A5208DE.1010607@telenet.net> <2910.165.206.180.130.1246891046.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <4A52237B.3080906@telenet.net> bill at antique-engines.com wrote: > tsk-tsk-tsk - only if the run-off is captured in a holding area and > disposed of properly. > > > Bill > Well if you want to consider the yard in front of the barn a "holding area" I guess that's your call..... -- Steve W From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Jul 6 11:09:21 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:09:21 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090706184638.0195d5f0@mail.atech.co.za> At 06:00 PM 06/07/2009, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:08:52 +1000 >From: Patrick >Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes > >Now a topic that I am sure will result in differing views; The definition of >'working clothes'. It is one that is seen and heard a lot these days but the >definition seems fairly fluid. > >From engines I have seen in their original working environments it can range >from immaculately maintained to covered in muck and held together with bits >of wire. >Any opinions out there on 'working clothes'? >Patrick M Livingstone >Leichhardt NSW >http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html Hi Patrick, Being a relative "newbie to this game, here is my opinion. I agree with all the previous answers. There is no correct answer to the question. If, as you mentioned, you are lucky enough to come across one that has been "immaculately maintained". Then show it like that. Those in the know will really appreciate it. Of course, if it has been "immaculately maintained" then it will have no grease, oil or other "muck" on it! If it has "bits of wire" holding it together then it's up to you. An engine with "farmers repairs" can also generate a lot of interest at shows if it is a relatively "rare" engine and you make a point of touting the fact that it has worked successfully for "xxx" years in that condition. Every owner has his own priorities and it depends on what he wants to do with the engine. (I loved Eldens reply :"Anyhoo - the engine belongs to the owner and he or she is free to do whatever rings their chimes." Are you restoring the engine for your own gratification and enjoyment or are you restoring it with a view to it being an "investment"? Even then, will you get a higher price for it from a "purist" or someone who appreciates the work you've put into it or the rarity of the machine? "Working clothes" in my opinion means just that - with all the grease, oil and other "gunk" intact and will attract attention at shows. In my experience, it attracts attention because some member of the public will say "Hey, look here's a really old one!!" That's my "tuppence ha'pennies" worth! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jdohagan at comcast.net Mon Jul 6 13:46:43 2009 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:46:43 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal Message-ID: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in smaller pipe sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to "black"? Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. Jim O'Hagan From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Jul 6 14:02:22 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:02:22 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal In-Reply-To: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> References: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: Jimmy, I mix muratic acid and water 50/50 in a plastic tub. Drop the parts in and leave until they quit fizzing. Then remove, wash with water and then neutralize with baking soda and water for an hour. Then you are ready to go with black fittings. Steve > From: jdohagan at comcast.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:46:43 -0700 > Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal > > Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in smaller pipe > sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My > question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to "black"? > Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 From rotigel at me.com Mon Jul 6 14:24:14 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:24:14 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal In-Reply-To: References: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: Do what you otter--add acid to water! Dave On Jul 6, 2009, at 2:02 PM, Steve Royster wrote: > > Jimmy, I mix muratic acid and water 50/50 in a plastic tub. Drop the > parts in and leave until they quit fizzing. Then remove, wash with > water and then neutralize with baking soda and water for an hour. > Then you are ready to go with black fittings. Steve > >> From: jdohagan at comcast.net >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:46:43 -0700 >> Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal >> >> Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in >> smaller pipe >> sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My >> question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to >> "black"? >> Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. >> >> >> >> Jim O'Hagan >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. > http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edstoller at earthlink.net Mon Jul 6 14:30:59 2009 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:30:59 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal References: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: In the winter, I have put them in a fire to burn the zinc off. Today, I would use electrolysis. Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim O'Hagan" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:46 PM Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal > Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in smaller pipe > sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My > question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to "black"? > Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Jul 6 14:26:58 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:26:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT References: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop><000d01c9fa9b$773f93e0$83674b47@mikecomp> <007f01c9fc00$d3665b70$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <002a01c9fe80$7e4d8b90$83674b47@mikecomp> Been there, done that. Come to think of it, Arnie sang that every morning on the EHOWT!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Tonneberger" To: "Engine List" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT :-)) Yep, it's probably not a good thing when you know all the words to the Spongebob Square Pants theme song. Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ====================== > From: mr at carolina.rr.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:07:55 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > Naaaaa, I bet with Brooke in the car you know every children's song there > is!!!!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Luke Tonneberger" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:56 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > Maybe it's a sign I'm beginning to get old :-) > > Luke Tonneberger > > Rockford, Michigan > > USA > > ==================== > > > From: mr at carolina.rr.com > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:29:57 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > Where have you been???? This is over a year old. Obviously you been > > listening to that devil hippie rock and roll nonsense!!! Come on over to > > country boy!!!! > > > > MR > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Luke Tonneberger" > > To: "Engine List" > > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:22 AM > > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > > > > > I've seen that one before......... > > > > > > > > I ran across this one yesterday and was the first time I heard it....... > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqXZt0aQvvM > > > > Luke Tonneberger > > > > Rockford, Michigan > > > > USA > > > > ============================ > > > > > From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net > > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:06:50 -0400 > > > Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > > > Off topic, but just worthwhile... > > > > > > http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094 > > > > > > > > > Jim in Vermont _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From marinesurveys at msn.com Mon Jul 6 14:31:37 2009 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:31:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal In-Reply-To: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> References: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: Jim; No problem with Blk Iron here in NC, it's a requirement on gas piping both Natural & LP Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: jdohagan at comcast.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:46:43 -0700 > Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal > > Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in smaller pipe > sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My > question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to "black"? > Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Mon Jul 6 14:44:16 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:44:16 -0700 Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT In-Reply-To: <002a01c9fe80$7e4d8b90$83674b47@mikecomp> References: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop> <000d01c9fa9b$773f93e0$83674b47@mikecomp> <007f01c9fc00$d3665b70$83674b47@mikecomp> <002a01c9fe80$7e4d8b90$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <8ADACA27-6973-4FAE-84B7-AE8C3803712E@me.com> Who/what is (a) Spongebob Square Pants? Dave On Jul 6, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Mike Royster wrote: > Been there, done that. Come to think of it, Arnie sang that every > morning > on the EHOWT!!!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Luke Tonneberger" > To: "Engine List" > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:35 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > :-)) Yep, it's probably not a good thing when you know all the words > to the > Spongebob Square Pants theme song. > > Luke Tonneberger From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Jul 6 14:46:37 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:46:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal References: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <009101c9fe83$3d4d5960$83674b47@mikecomp> Jimmy, it really works. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Galvanizing removal Jimmy, I mix muratic acid and water 50/50 in a plastic tub. Drop the parts in and leave until they quit fizzing. Then remove, wash with water and then neutralize with baking soda and water for an hour. Then you are ready to go with black fittings. Steve > From: jdohagan at comcast.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:46:43 -0700 > Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal > > Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in smaller pipe > sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My > question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to "black"? > Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Mon Jul 6 15:05:13 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:05:13 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal In-Reply-To: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> References: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: Jimmy, if you need, I can pick some up from the local hardware store and ship them out your way. However, it's probably cheaper just to order from McMaster-Carr. Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Jim O'Hagan wrote: > Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in smaller > pipe > sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My > question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to > "black"? > Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From james.kangas at timken.com Mon Jul 6 16:06:17 2009 From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:06:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT References: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop><000d01c9fa9b$773f93e0$83674b47@mikecomp><007f01c9fc00$d3665b70$83674b47@mikecomp><002a01c9fe80$7e4d8b90$83674b47@mikecomp> <8ADACA27-6973-4FAE-84B7-AE8C3803712E@me.com> Message-ID: It's a cartoon show on Nickelodeon T.V. Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of David Rotigel Sent: Mon 7/6/2009 5:44 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT Who/what is (a) Spongebob Square Pants? Dave On Jul 6, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Mike Royster wrote: > Been there, done that. Come to think of it, Arnie sang that every > morning > on the EHOWT!!!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Luke Tonneberger" > To: "Engine List" > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:35 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > :-)) Yep, it's probably not a good thing when you know all the words > to the > Spongebob Square Pants theme song. > > Luke Tonneberger _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Jul 6 16:27:59 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:27:59 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal In-Reply-To: References: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: However we don't run any 1/8 " black for gas piping, usually 3/4 is the smallest you will see for gas piping. Steve in NC > From: marinesurveys at msn.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:31:37 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Galvanizing removal > > > Jim; > > No problem with Blk Iron here in NC, it's a requirement on gas piping > > both Natural & LP > > Franklin S. Skinner > Marine Surveyor & Consultant > 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 > 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West > PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > > > > > > From: jdohagan at comcast.net > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:46:43 -0700 > > Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal > > > > Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in smaller pipe > > sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My > > question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to "black"? > > Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. > > > > > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 From Camaned at iinet.net.au Mon Jul 6 17:03:55 2009 From: Camaned at iinet.net.au (Cameron Grundy) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:03:55 +1000 Subject: [SEL] SIAM 2009 Pictures In-Reply-To: <3915021B-21AC-4625-8420-9451822ADC8C@me.com> References: <3915021B-21AC-4625-8420-9451822ADC8C@me.com> Message-ID: <000001c9fe96$6b872be0$429583a0$@net.au> Thanks very for sharing pics Dave, They are great. Cam -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2009 12:27 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] SIAM 2009 Pictures Hi All, AT LAST the pictures of the SIAM 2009 show are up. You can see them at: http://gallery.me.com/rotigel Dave PS, Keith, can you fine a way to get them to Marian? Thanks! _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From camaned at iinet.net.au Mon Jul 6 17:16:16 2009 From: camaned at iinet.net.au (Cam Grundy) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:16:16 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Pictures from 1000 egine at Astle Park & Ansons Museum In-Reply-To: <004301c9fa67$d13e5b30$42920556@intrepid> References: <004301c9fa67$d13e5b30$42920556@intrepid> Message-ID: Thanks for the photo's Dave I would like to go there one day. Cam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Croft" To: "atis" Cc: "Oldengine.org" Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:20 AM Subject: [SEL] Pictures from 1000 egine at Astle Park & Ansons Museum > Last weekend. see > http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ullerman/1000Engine09# > for the show & > http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ullerman/AnsonMuseum09# > for a little of the museum. > The museum has increased quite a lot in the last year. > Dave Croft > Warrington > http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 6 17:19:42 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal Message-ID: <359422.2945.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just today at work I was re-plumbing an air line water drain with 3/8" black pipe.? It was last Summer when I bought a piece of 1/8" black pipe for a project. ? Alan in Michigan --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Steve Royster wrote: From: Steve Royster Subject: Re: [SEL] Galvanizing removal To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 7:27 PM However we don't run any 1/8 " black for gas piping, usually 3/4 is the smallest you will see for gas piping. Steve in NC > From: marinesurveys at msn.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:31:37 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Galvanizing removal > > > Jim; > > No problem with Blk Iron here in NC, it's a requirement on gas piping > > both Natural & LP > > Franklin S. Skinner > Marine Surveyor & Consultant > 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 > 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West > PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > > > > > > From: jdohagan at comcast.net > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:46:43 -0700 > > Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal > > > > Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in smaller pipe > > sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My > > question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to "black"? > > Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. > > > > > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jdohagan at comcast.net Mon Jul 6 17:55:15 2009 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:55:15 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090707005515.9D03665B579@in02.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Franklin, In northern Ca. black iron is optional on interior applications but galvy is used both for interior and exterior. 1/8th and 1/4 are too small for gas so there isn't much demand for the small sizes. Jimmy Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of frank skinner Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 2:32 PM To: AA_OLD ENGINE Subject: Re: [SEL] Galvanizing removal Jim; No problem with Blk Iron here in NC, it's a requirement on gas piping both Natural & LP Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: jdohagan at comcast.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:46:43 -0700 > Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal > > Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in smaller pipe > sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My > question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to "black"? > Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jdohagan at comcast.net Mon Jul 6 17:59:40 2009 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:59:40 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090707005940.D89EE44496F@in04.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Thanks Rob, I have an Email into Hit and Miss, checking on their "steel" fittings. I'm not sure what that label means. Jimmy Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 3:05 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Galvanizing removal Jimmy, if you need, I can pick some up from the local hardware store and ship them out your way. However, it's probably cheaper just to order from McMaster-Carr. Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Jim O'Hagan wrote: > Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in smaller > pipe > sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My > question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to > "black"? > Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Mon Jul 6 18:01:55 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:01:55 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Once you guys get done with this one please consider how many OBAMA's can stand on the head of a pin! Dave PS, And then could someone please tell me how high is UP! On Jul 6, 2009, at 5:08 AM, Patrick wrote: > Now a topic that I am sure will result in differing views; The > definition of > 'working clothes'. It is one that is seen and heard a lot these days > but the > definition seems fairly fluid. >> From engines I have seen in their original working environments it >> can range > from immaculately maintained to covered in muck and held together > with bits > of wire. > Any opinions out there on 'working clothes'? > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Mon Jul 6 18:27:01 2009 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:27:01 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A52A465.2040904@optusnet.com.au> === As high as a piece of string, Dave JW? === David Rotigel wrote: > Once you guys get done with this .... > . . . PS, And then could someone please tell me how high is UP! > From flywheelin at hotmail.com Tue Jul 7 06:10:08 2009 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 13:10:08 +0000 Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT In-Reply-To: <8ADACA27-6973-4FAE-84B7-AE8C3803712E@me.com> References: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop> <000d01c9fa9b$773f93e0$83674b47@mikecomp> <007f01c9fc00$d3665b70$83674b47@mikecomp> <002a01c9fe80$7e4d8b90$83674b47@mikecomp> <8ADACA27-6973-4FAE-84B7-AE8C3803712E@me.com> Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj3zlCMNuXg theme song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrtadKnY5Ug a sample Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ======================== > From: rotigel at me.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:44:16 -0700 > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > Who/what is (a) Spongebob Square Pants? > Dave > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Jul 7 07:32:24 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:32:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oh, Dave! There you go again. Everyone knows an infinite number of Obamas can stand on the head of a pin, the other end of which is getting ready to poke us in the hiney! How high is up? As far as he can shove it. :-) Boy! I can't wait 'til they tell me I'm to old for health care. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of David > Rotigel > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 08:02 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Working Clothes > > > Once you guys get done with this one please > consider how many OBAMA's > can stand on the head of a pin! > Dave > PS, And then could someone please tell me how high is UP! From lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue Jul 7 07:19:04 2009 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:19:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <827D83D2FDC44598BB8A7411044CEEBE@tommyd0x52gkco> Elden, Well, keeping this a bit on a Presidential note as well as a twist on words, Abe Lincoln was once being mocked for his height. A reported asked "Mr. Lincoln, how long should a man's legs actually be?". Lincoln replied "I guess long enough to reach the ground" I just had a friend, who collects antique cars and has a couple of engines and is in his late 70's, stop by my office to see me. He said he now had proof how old he was looking. He had just been to the local nursing home visiting his aunt. He was walking up the hall and a lady was sort of staring at him. He walked up to her and said "Hi ma'am, you probably know who I am". She replied, "no, but if you'll go up to that nurses station they can probably tell you". Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY How high is up? As far as he can shove it. :-) From frappi at wcoil.com Tue Jul 7 08:39:04 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:39:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090707153852.DD3383C06F2@mail02.wcoil.com> Soylent Green here we come! Mark At 10:32 AM 7/7/2009, you wrote: >Oh, Dave! There you go again. Everyone knows an infinite number of >Obamas can stand on the head of a pin, the other end of which is >getting ready to poke us in the hiney! > >How high is up? As far as he can shove it. :-) > >Boy! I can't wait 'til they tell me I'm to old for health care. > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of David > > Rotigel > > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 08:02 PM > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Working Clothes > > > > > > Once you guys get done with this one please > > consider how many OBAMA's > > can stand on the head of a pin! > > Dave > > PS, And then could someone please tell me how high is UP! > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.7/2222 - Release Date: >07/07/09 05:53:00 Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 USA 419.358.5206 From gastzt at aol.com Tue Jul 7 09:19:39 2009 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 12:19:39 EDT Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes Message-ID: AMEN TO THAT!!!! Stan (old stovers) Pleasanton, Texas **************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003) From mr at carolina.rr.com Tue Jul 7 10:22:17 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 13:22:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes References: <20090707153852.DD3383C06F2@mail02.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <005101c9ff27$7a831c30$83674b47@mikecomp> It's people!!!!!! We're eating people!!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Shulaw" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Working Clothes > Soylent Green here we come! Mark > > > > At 10:32 AM 7/7/2009, you wrote: >>Oh, Dave! There you go again. Everyone knows an infinite number of >>Obamas can stand on the head of a pin, the other end of which is >>getting ready to poke us in the hiney! >> >>How high is up? As far as he can shove it. :-) >> >>Boy! I can't wait 'til they tell me I'm to old for health care. >> >>Take care - Elden >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> > Behalf Of David >> > Rotigel >> > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 08:02 PM >> > To: The SEL email discussion list >> > Subject: Re: [SEL] Working Clothes >> > >> > >> > Once you guys get done with this one please >> > consider how many OBAMA's >> > can stand on the head of a pin! >> > Dave >> > PS, And then could someone please tell me how high is UP! >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.7/2222 - Release Date: >>07/07/09 05:53:00 > > Mark & Christine Shulaw > Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 > USA > 419.358.5206 > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Jul 7 15:27:29 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:27:29 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: <20090707153852.DD3383C06F2@mail02.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Mark: Charleton Heston back in the '60's. I just hope the plankton holds out. "Omega Man" ring any bells? Ain't it wonderful what the future holds for us. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Mark Shulaw > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:39 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Working Clothes > > > Soylent Green here we come! Mark From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Tue Jul 7 22:07:46 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:07:46 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I like to leave engines with a lot of original paint and features alone. If an engine needs a major rebuild I will do a full paint job on it. It is nice to see a mixture of both unrestored and restored engines. I may be exaggerating but TOMM seems to label almost anything with little paint on it as 'working clothes'. Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From dombros2 at clearmail.com.au Wed Jul 8 01:46:53 2009 From: dombros2 at clearmail.com.au (Ted & Sue Domeney) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 18:46:53 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Mars diesel Message-ID: <140BAC51A26742D581257035A0908A8B@HOUSE> Hi there Bit of a newbie on this Forum, but I see some familiar names. Can anyone tell me the origin (country, manufacturer) of the little Mars diesel engine, please? I see one listing on Google that states they produced 3.5 hp at 650 rpm, but nothing on when or where they were built. I took a photo of one at our national Rally in South Australia this year, but could not track down the owner. Thanks in advance Tediesel Tasmania Australia From mathjr at optusnet.com.au Wed Jul 8 02:21:55 2009 From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au (Renee Mathieson) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:21:55 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes Message-ID: <1557F0DF42734233827C77C28B475429@lightning> I agree with you patrick. We are surpose to be restoreres not destroyers. If an engine has a fair amount of original paint and even some pinstriping leave it as it is. Coat it in turps and oil. I was about to buy an expencive engine from Murray Bridge and the seller mentioned that it had been sandblasted. I pulled out of the sale strait away. As far as I am concerned that engine has been destroyed. The before pics show pinstriping and a lot of original artwork and paint. I have bead blasted very rusty engines and oiled them up to try and get the old patina but would never paint or sandblast an engine that showed original paint etc. These engines are still in their working clothes. John Mathieson Eden NSW From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Wed Jul 8 02:38:38 2009 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:38:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Mars diesel In-Reply-To: <140BAC51A26742D581257035A0908A8B@HOUSE> References: <140BAC51A26742D581257035A0908A8B@HOUSE> Message-ID: G'Day Ted Mars were built in Brisbane see my page http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Austmakers.html the one shown is owned by a Sydney owner. Can get his name Kerry Lithgow NSW Oz > Hi there > Bit of a newbie on this Forum, but I see some familiar names. > Can anyone tell me the origin (country, manufacturer) of the little Mars > diesel engine, please? > I see one listing on Google that states they produced 3.5 hp at 650 rpm, > but nothing on when or where they were built. > I took a photo of one at our national Rally in South Australia this year, > but could not track down the owner. > > Thanks in advance > > Tediesel > Tasmania > Australia > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Wed Jul 8 02:48:57 2009 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:48:57 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Mars diesel In-Reply-To: <140BAC51A26742D581257035A0908A8B@HOUSE> References: <140BAC51A26742D581257035A0908A8B@HOUSE> Message-ID: <4A546B89.9020907@optusnet.com.au> There used to be a Mars Machine Tool company in The Valley, Brisbane Qld back in the 50s when I was there. Their lathes were well known. I don't know if they made diesel engines, but it is possible. JW? === Ted & Sue Domeney wrote: > Hi there > Bit of a newbie on this Forum, but I see some familiar names. > Can anyone tell me the origin (country, manufacturer) of the little Mars diesel engine, please? > I see one listing on Google that states they produced 3.5 hp at 650 rpm, but nothing on when or where they were built. > I took a photo of one at our national Rally in South Australia this year, but could not track down the owner. > > Thanks in advance > > Tediesel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Jul 8 03:14:46 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 20:14:46 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Moffat Virtue parts wanted Message-ID: Hi All I am trying to help a newbee to the hobby that has a 2 1/4 hp Moffat Virtue he is restoring. He needs some governor parts and carby parts. I am waiting for photos, but mean while if anyone has any parts for sale can they get back to me. Thanks in advance. Peter, Oz From ilifa at internode.on.net Wed Jul 8 03:37:52 2009 From: ilifa at internode.on.net (Eric Schulz) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 20:37:52 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Mars diesel In-Reply-To: <4A546B89.9020907@optusnet.com.au> References: <140BAC51A26742D581257035A0908A8B@HOUSE> <4A546B89.9020907@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: A bit more about Mars. Formerly trading as Rapson & Dutton, in about 1942 the company name was changed to Mars Machine Tools at Bridge St, Valley, Brisbane. As far as I know, during the war the horizontal Brons system engines continued under the Victor brand, and probably a 6hp vertical that goes back to the mid 30's. If an advertisement is to be believed, a new series of vertical engines was introduced in 1953 in 3, 5, and 8 hp sizes. The 3 and 5hp were very Lister-like. The engine at the National Rally was a 8hp size. If you want to read more about the lathes, go to www.lathes.co.uk/mars Mars was the mythical god Mars, not the planet. Eric >> Bit of a newbie on this Forum, but I see some familiar names. >> Can anyone tell me the origin (country, manufacturer) of the little >> Mars diesel engine, please? >> I see one listing on Google that states they produced 3.5 hp at 650 >> rpm, but nothing on when or where they were built. >> I took a photo of one at our national Rally in South Australia this >> year, but could not track down the owner. >> >> Tediesel From mike17257 at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 04:06:04 2009 From: mike17257 at gmail.com (michael young) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:06:04 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: <1557F0DF42734233827C77C28B475429@lightning> References: <1557F0DF42734233827C77C28B475429@lightning> Message-ID: <844af0290907080406u7052b7a9haae04131aa7c403e@mail.gmail.com> Hi,even if its got no original paint on them at all I prefer to not paint em. Do the mechanical work and don worry bout the paint. This might be cos I am s*** with the spray gun (true) an lazy (true as well) but mosly coz thats the way I like em. Sand blasting is a big no no with me as well. Mike Young On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Renee Mathieson wrote: > I agree with you patrick. We are surpose to be restoreres not destroyers. > If an engine has a fair amount of original paint and even some pinstriping > leave it as it is. Coat it in turps and oil. I was about to buy an expencive > engine from Murray Bridge and the seller mentioned that it had been > sandblasted. I pulled out of the sale strait away. As far as I am concerned > that engine has been destroyed. The before pics show pinstriping and a lot > of original artwork and paint. I have bead blasted very rusty engines and > oiled them up to try and get the old patina but would never paint or > sandblast an engine that showed original paint etc. These engines are still > in their working clothes. John Mathieson Eden NSW > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From oldengines at bigpond.com Wed Jul 8 04:16:49 2009 From: oldengines at bigpond.com (Ron Sullivan) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:16:49 +1000 Subject: [SEL] off topic info 1923 twin city tractors Message-ID: <002601c9ffbd$96598200$6500a8c0@ronliz> Hi all just looking 4 some info on 12 20 circa1923 Twin City tractors is there alot in oz and approx value of 1 retored and its brother 2 numbers later and original with rebuilt motor and a day to put back together with steel wheels as we are not tractor enriched at the moment but could be real soon thanks Ron & Liz Sullivan oldengines at bigpond.com From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Wed Jul 8 11:46:23 2009 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:46:23 +0100 Subject: [SEL] site for old English Engines Message-ID: <000a01c9fffc$65c87fd0$42920556@intrepid> Seen on the UK.REC.ENGINES.STATIONARY site. http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/wiki/Main_Page Not the best set out but it does have items of interest! Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From dombros2 at clearmail.com.au Thu Jul 9 01:57:59 2009 From: dombros2 at clearmail.com.au (Ted & Sue Domeney) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 18:57:59 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Mars diesel Message-ID: <7059E975086F4C4FB89884AF6420BB36@HOUSE> Thank you Kerry, Jack and Eric for your helpful replies. (Eric, Off Topic- regarding your comment in your reply, was not Mars [the planet] named after the (mythical) Roman god of war of the same name? I always assumed it was so.) Regards to all Tediesel From ilifa at internode.on.net Thu Jul 9 02:40:02 2009 From: ilifa at internode.on.net (Eric Schulz) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:40:02 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Mars diesel In-Reply-To: <7059E975086F4C4FB89884AF6420BB36@HOUSE> References: <7059E975086F4C4FB89884AF6420BB36@HOUSE> Message-ID: Ted & Sue Domeney wrote: > (Eric, Off Topic- regarding your comment in your reply, was not Mars > [the planet] named after the (mythical) Roman god of war of the same > name? I always assumed it was so.) Ted what you say makes sense. What made me say that was because the Mars trademark was the god's head. As I have a personal relationship with the living Creator God, I don't take that much interest in man- made ones. Even so, it's an impressive looking trademark. Eric From frappi at wcoil.com Thu Jul 9 09:41:50 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:41:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Maytag Needs Ride/ New Hampshire to points WEST In-Reply-To: <000a01c9fffc$65c87fd0$42920556@intrepid> References: <000a01c9fffc$65c87fd0$42920556@intrepid> Message-ID: <20090709164137.6CA7D1475C2@mail01.wcoil.com> We are looking to get a ride for a Maytag engine from New Hampshire to any points or any place in between the ultimate destination of NE Iowa 6 miles from the Minnesota border. Just don't want to trust the engine to the gentle handling of the shippers. We can use connections to Connecticut (Marks Magnetos) or New Jersey or Eastern PA. And then people there can get it to Portland Show in August. Or even events before that. Or we can use connections to several different points in Ohio. Or To Portland show straight from New Hampshire. I know people in most parts of Ohio or southern Michigan that it could be left with. What ever can be work out. Theres even a couple people in Southern Ontario that could take it and get it to Portland. Its a Maytag so it does not take a lot of room. Beer, soda or some gas money can be arraigned. We are always willing to help in a transport ourselves. Thanks, Mark Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for this Country! Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Thu Jul 9 09:55:28 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:55:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Maytag Needs Ride/ New Hampshire to points WEST Message-ID: <20090709165515.017E43E4477@mail05.wcoil.com> Almost forgot If we can get it from Bethleham NH to the Pepperell Mass show this weekend we have a ride for it to Marks Magnetos. My contact # 419.516.2996 Thanks, Mark We are looking to get a ride for a Maytag engine from New Hampshire to any points or any place in between the ultimate destination of NE Iowa 6 miles from the Minnesota border. Just don't want to trust the engine to the gentle handling of the shippers. We can use connections to Connecticut (Marks Magnetos) or New Jersey or Eastern PA. And then people there can get it to Portland Show in August. Or even events before that. Or we can use connections to several different points in Ohio. Or To Portland show straight from New Hampshire. I know people in most parts of Ohio or southern Michigan that it could be left with. What ever can be work out. Theres even a couple people in Southern Ontario that could take it and get it to Portland. Its a Maytag so it does not take a lot of room. Beer, soda or some gas money can be arraigned. We are always willing to help in a transport ourselves. Thanks, Mark Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for this Country! Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Fri Jul 10 19:38:36 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:38:36 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Austral register July 2009 Message-ID: Below are the totals on the Austral register as of July 2009. They have a pretty amazing survival rate. HP Total 3 143 3.5 20 4 183 4.5 7 5 131 5.5 35 6 213 6.5 28 7 52 7.5 11 8 111 8.5 23 9 5 9.5 2 10 15 11 78 12 3 15 4 16 17 20 18 25 2 26 1 32 1 ? 81 Grand Total 1184 Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From cgandree at mchsi.com Sat Jul 11 04:26:58 2009 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:26:58 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Searching for engineman Message-ID: <071120091126.6.4A587702000D112200000006223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Hi All, Does any one know how I can reach Mike Omally from Mass. Looking for his phone and email. thank you in advance, Curt Andree From fuller_johnson at yahoo.com Sat Jul 11 05:28:10 2009 From: fuller_johnson at yahoo.com (Fuller & Johnson) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Searching for engineman Message-ID: <763915.50572.qm@web52308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hitmiss at aol.com --- On Sat, 7/11/09, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: From: cgandree at mchsi.com Subject: [SEL] Searching for engineman To: "SEL Lists" Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 7:26 AM Hi All, Does any one know how I can reach Mike Omally from Mass.? Looking for his phone and email. thank you in advance, Curt Andree _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fbi at insulate.co.uk Sat Jul 11 08:19:02 2009 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:19:02 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 Message-ID: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> Hi All I realise I've been very slow in getting the webpages done for the Nuenen show, but at least I've got pictures available for everyone to enjoy before anyone who went on the EHOWT09 has done! http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/nuenen1.htm Dolly -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From rob at rustyiron.com Sat Jul 11 09:56:19 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:56:19 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <9E0FBA01-CCDC-44FE-A5AE-43B38087A039@rustyiron.com> Diggin' your pictures? You NEED a Dolle engine? That hot air contraption would be nice in your sewing room? and YES, Kov???k displays properly. I still have the other half to view, but the trails await. Thanks. Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com On Jul 11, 2009, at 8:19 AM, Jim French wrote: > Hi All > > I realise I've been very slow in getting the webpages done for the > Nuenen show, but at least I've got pictures available for everyone to > enjoy before anyone who went on the EHOWT09 has done! > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/nuenen1.htm > > Dolly From rdhaskell at juno.com Sat Jul 11 12:32:54 2009 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:32:54 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 Message-ID: <20090711.123255.1384.4.rdhaskell@juno.com> Outstanding pictures Dolly. Thanks. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:19:02 +0100 Jim French writes: > Hi All > > I realise I've been very slow in getting the webpages done for the > Nuenen show, but at least I've got pictures available for everyone > to > enjoy before anyone who went on the EHOWT09 has done! > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/nuenen1.htm > > Dolly > > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm ____________________________________________________________ Visit the City of Brotherly Love! 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(http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003) From camaned at iinet.net.au Sat Jul 11 15:53:35 2009 From: camaned at iinet.net.au (Cam Grundy) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:53:35 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Austral register July 2009 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6D4715224C05439CA86F2C41364E8C0D@CamPC> Thanks for that Patrick. Cam. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick" To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine" Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 12:38 PM Subject: [SEL] Austral register July 2009 > Below are the totals on the Austral register as of July 2009. They have a > pretty amazing survival rate. > > HP Total > 3 143 > 3.5 20 > 4 183 > 4.5 7 > 5 131 > 5.5 35 > 6 213 > 6.5 28 > 7 52 > 7.5 11 > 8 111 > 8.5 23 > 9 5 > 9.5 2 > 10 15 > 11 78 > 12 3 > 15 4 > 16 17 > 20 18 > 25 2 > 26 1 > 32 1 > ? 81 > > Grand Total 1184 > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edstoller at earthlink.net Sat Jul 11 18:36:58 2009 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:36:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Any Michigan Shows References: Message-ID: <49E9A95AA7F54303BF05527592BC202B@Ed> When and where are the engine shows in Michigan please?? Reference,Sharing_Small_Engine_Secrets at yahoogroups.com Thanks Ed, I got it now .... There are several shows around the Michigan area yearly and I did not know the true history and how they evolved .. I will make it a point to attend a show ... Who knows, there may be one around here this weekend ... Fred B ( moderator ) Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ From riga_fire at yahoo.com Sat Jul 11 19:50:55 2009 From: riga_fire at yahoo.com (Paul Russell) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Any Michigan Shows Message-ID: <887054.73490.qm@web31810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Send me an e-mail to: riga_fire at yahoo.com and I will send you a PDF of the show adds that are in the Farmers Advance for this year ? ________________________________ From: Ed stoller To: The SEL email discussion list Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:36:58 PM Subject: [SEL] Any Michigan Shows When and where are the engine shows in Michigan please?? Reference,Sharing_Small_Engine_Secrets at yahoogroups.com Thanks Ed,? I got it now ....? There are several shows around the Michigan area yearly and I did not know the true history and how they evolved .. I will make it a point to attend a show ... Who knows, there may be one around here this weekend ... Fred B? ( moderator ) Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bvandragt at comcast.net Sat Jul 11 21:12:24 2009 From: bvandragt at comcast.net (Brian VanDragt) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:12:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Any Michigan Shows In-Reply-To: <49E9A95AA7F54303BF05527592BC202B@Ed> Message-ID: July 16-18 Riverbend Steam and Gas Show - Allendale, MI www.riverbendsteamandgas.i8.com Aug 13-16 Buckley Old Engine Show - Buckley, MI www.buckleyoldengineshow.org Aug 21-23 Mid Michigan Old Gas Tractor Association Show - Oakley, MI http://mmogta.org Sept 10-13 Michigan Flywheelers Antique Engine and Tractor Show - South Haven, MI www.michiganflywheelers.org -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Ed stoller Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:37 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Any Michigan Shows When and where are the engine shows in Michigan please?? Reference,Sharing_Small_Engine_Secrets at yahoogroups.com Thanks Ed, I got it now .... There are several shows around the Michigan area yearly and I did not know the true history and how they evolved .. I will make it a point to attend a show ... Who knows, there may be one around here this weekend ... Fred B ( moderator ) Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Sat Jul 11 21:20:19 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:20:19 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Any Michigan Shows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EA0A366-9F01-40CF-91C7-3BEFC81A4186@me.com> There are MANY pages of MI shows in the _Show Directory_. Why not buy one? Dave On Jul 11, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Brian VanDragt wrote: > July 16-18 Riverbend Steam and Gas Show - Allendale, MI > www.riverbendsteamandgas.i8.com > Aug 13-16 Buckley Old Engine Show - Buckley, MI www.buckleyoldengineshow.org > Aug 21-23 Mid Michigan Old Gas Tractor Association Show - Oakley, MI > http://mmogta.org > Sept 10-13 Michigan Flywheelers Antique Engine and Tractor Show - > South > Haven, MI www.michiganflywheelers.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Ed > stoller > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:37 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: [SEL] Any Michigan Shows > > > When and where are the engine shows in Michigan please?? > > Reference,Sharing_Small_Engine_Secrets at yahoogroups.com > > Thanks Ed, I got it now .... There are several shows around the > Michigan > area yearly and I did not know the true history and how they > evolved .. I > will make it a point to attend a show ... Who knows, there may be > one around > here this weekend ... > > Fred B ( moderator ) > > Ed Stoller > New Fairfield, CT > http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Sun Jul 12 04:10:42 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:10:42 +1000 Subject: [SEL] auction bargain Message-ID: <3769846FCD564A5E9762276624F58FC0@peterlowe> Hi All How is this for an auction report from a lucky R&V buyer. He went with $1500 to buy the R&V and came back with more than a bargain. $400 for the 1hp "L", R & V, complete including original skids, battery box, coil and some old eveready No. 16 dry cells . 11/2 Fairbanks Morris headless on a nice waterloo Boy cart $550 2 HP witte with a new gas tank very good compression $350. IHC LA 1/12-2/12 complete $350. Economy 11/2 JK Parts engine $10.. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines From fbi at insulate.co.uk Sun Jul 12 06:12:31 2009 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:12:31 +0100 Subject: [SEL] My bad, was RE: Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <20090712040149.48AE8678447@secure.fsr.com> References: <20090712040149.48AE8678447@secure.fsr.com> Message-ID: <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> Hi Orrin I had a real struggle sorting the pictures out. Over the 3 days of the show, I took 400 pictures, and used over 200 of them on the website. I TRIED to be organised, and take pictures of display boards etc, but I kept forgetting. Also I'd take several pictures of the same engine on different days, so they weren't all neatly together. With the East German inverted display, I finally resorted to putting them all on the same page rather than trying to spot the difference! It was difficult to tell which of their engines were original and which were replicas. So many of the engines had stories to tell (one of the reasons why I tried to get more pictures this time of the owners with their engines; they are justifiably proud of what they've achieved), but I couldn't remember all the details. My favourite engine http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/83a.htm was the subject of an early 20th century legal dispute. The Czech maker had directly copied an American design (typically, I can't remember which one, but it reminds me a lot of a Fairbanks Morse T) and was sued by that manufacturer. So he paid his fine, stopped making them and promptly started copying another type of engine (possibly Amanco). The wonderful thing about Nuenen is that you're never sure how to cross the language barrier. Will the owner be English, Dutch, Belgian, French, German, Hungarian etc etc, and which language will they speak? It was amazing how much of a conversation could be had in two completely different languages, plus a lot of gestures! I also noticed during one conversation that the engine owner was familiar with technical engine terms, but struggled with some every day conversational language! Anyway, I'm glad you're enjoying the pictures, and hope they give some idea of what a very special show it is. Regards, Dolly Orrin B Iseminger wrote: > Dolly -- > > Ah, I get it now. My bad. > > Sorry to raise an alarm. > > Orrin > > Orrin Iseminger > > -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From frappi at wcoil.com Sun Jul 12 07:28:47 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:28:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] auction bargain In-Reply-To: <3769846FCD564A5E9762276624F58FC0@peterlowe> References: <3769846FCD564A5E9762276624F58FC0@peterlowe> Message-ID: <20090712142832.148E21D0CB8@mail04.wcoil.com> An IHC LA LB brings nearly as much as a 1 hp R&V Go Figure. Mark At 07:10 AM 7/12/2009, you wrote: >Hi All > >How is this for an auction report from a lucky R&V buyer. >He went with $1500 to buy the R&V and came back with more than a bargain. > >$400 for the 1hp "L", R & V, complete including original skids, >battery box, coil and some old eveready No. 16 dry cells . >11/2 Fairbanks Morris headless on a nice waterloo Boy cart $550 >2 HP witte with a new gas tank very good compression $350. >IHC LA 1/12-2/12 complete $350. >Economy 11/2 JK Parts engine $10.. > >Regards >Peter Lowe >R&V Engine Registrar >Australia >http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >Skype name: ozengines >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.11/2232 - Release Date: >07/11/09 17:56:00 Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for this Country! Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From obise at moscow.com Sun Jul 12 08:12:44 2009 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:12:44 -0700 Subject: [SEL] My bad, was RE: Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <20090712151304.8C9676787D2@secure.fsr.com> Dolly -- That's what I concluded when I finally saw the light. Thank you for your very interesting observations. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim French Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 6:13 AM To: ATIS Stationary Engine List Subject: Re: [SEL] My bad, was RE: Nuenen 2009 With the East German inverted display, I finally resorted to putting them all on the same page rather than trying to spot the difference! From rob at rustyiron.com Sun Jul 12 10:45:47 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:45:47 -0700 Subject: [SEL] My bad In-Reply-To: <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> References: <20090712040149.48AE8678447@secure.fsr.com> <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: On Jul 12, 2009, at 6:12 AM, Jim French wrote: > I had a real struggle sorting the pictures out. Yeah, with all those boring inverted engines, I can understand why you would "dustbin" them all onto one page ;-) It seems you're in your "critique" mode. Please allow me to spew some impressions. 1. The "additional views" along the top are a nice touch. The primary viewing experience is not overwhelmed by multiple pictures of the same engine, but more views are available for those viewers who have particular interest in an engine. It must have taken considerable effort to organize the images to such a degree. Nice work. 2. Your very pleasing use of color is not lost upon this troglodyte. I can't match a shirt and pants to save my life, but I recognize complementary tones when I see 'em. Very pretty. 3. Minor beef: the thumbnails are a bit "petite." I'd like to see them 50% larger. Even the main images could be larger, to get the full visual impact and detail. 4. The server is as slow as snot in molasses in January. One question: Did you bring your cleaning supplies to spiffy up the area around all the engines that you shot? Many times the photographer's challenge is finding an engine that isn't surrounded by half-eaten sandwiches, plastic oil cans, and dirty rags. Could it be that Euros are tidier than Yanks? Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com From marinesurveys at msn.com Sun Jul 12 11:26:27 2009 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:26:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] My bad In-Reply-To: References: <20090712040149.48AE8678447@secure.fsr.com> <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: "Cuz Rob" Very good "critique" & my comment is, "shirt and pants" matching, is not a requirement, being dressed however, is usually a social requirement :-) Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: rob at rustyiron.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:45:47 -0700 > Subject: Re: [SEL] My bad > > On Jul 12, 2009, at 6:12 AM, Jim French wrote: > > I had a real struggle sorting the pictures out. > > > Yeah, with all those boring inverted engines, I can understand why you > would "dustbin" them all onto one page ;-) > > It seems you're in your "critique" mode. Please allow me to spew some > impressions. > > 1. The "additional views" along the top are a nice touch. The > primary viewing experience is not overwhelmed by multiple pictures of > the same engine, but more views are available for those viewers who > have particular interest in an engine. It must have taken > considerable effort to organize the images to such a degree. Nice work. > > 2. Your very pleasing use of color is not lost upon this troglodyte. > I can't match a shirt and pants to save my life, but I recognize > complementary tones when I see 'em. Very pretty. > > 3. Minor beef: the thumbnails are a bit "petite." I'd like to see > them 50% larger. Even the main images could be larger, to get the > full visual impact and detail. > > 4. The server is as slow as snot in molasses in January. > > One question: Did you bring your cleaning supplies to spiffy up the > area around all the engines that you shot? Many times the > photographer's challenge is finding an engine that isn't surrounded by > half-eaten sandwiches, plastic oil cans, and dirty rags. Could it be > that Euros are tidier than Yanks? > > > Rob Skinner > Antique Stationary Engines > La Habra, California > > rob at rustyiron.com > www.rustyiron.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Sun Jul 12 11:27:45 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:27:45 -0700 Subject: [SEL] My bad In-Reply-To: References: <20090712040149.48AE8678447@secure.fsr.com> <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <64F76B8B-F7F3-4AFA-985E-2E3AD4FADC80@me.com> On Jul 12, 2009, at 10:45 AM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > > 3. Minor beef: the thumbnails are a bit "petite." I'd like to see > them 50% larger. Even the main images could be larger, to get the > full visual impact and detail. > Rob Skinner Hi Rob, They tell me that the eyes are ALWAYS the second thing to go! Dave From fbi at insulate.co.uk Sun Jul 12 11:37:52 2009 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:37:52 +0100 Subject: [SEL] My bad In-Reply-To: References: <20090712040149.48AE8678447@secure.fsr.com> <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <4A5A2D80.5080808@insulate.co.uk> Rob Skinner wrote: > > Yeah, with all those boring inverted engines, I can understand why you > would "dustbin" them all onto one page ;-) > You'd better prepare to be at Nuenen next year then. I think Anton said he was hoping to be able to make a line of at least 10 full size, original inverteds. > It seems you're in your "critique" mode. Please allow me to spew some > impressions. > Yes please. Pointers from a master are always much appreciated. > 1. The "additional views" along the top are a nice touch. The > primary viewing experience is not overwhelmed by multiple pictures of > the same engine, but more views are available for those viewers who > have particular interest in an engine. It must have taken > considerable effort to organize the images to such a degree. Nice work. > I'm quite sure that someone who knows what they're doing with web creation software could do it in minutes. Takes me hours!!!!! > 2. Your very pleasing use of color is not lost upon this troglodyte. > I can't match a shirt and pants to save my life, but I recognize > complementary tones when I see 'em. Very pretty. > http://www.coffeecup.com/color-schemer/ > 3. Minor beef: the thumbnails are a bit "petite." I'd like to see > them 50% larger. Even the main images could be larger, to get the > full visual impact and detail. > I've been wondering about sizes for a while. To be honest, I've not moved on much from advice you gave on list to budding webmasters a VERY long time ago. I think back then you recommended 80px for thumbnails at 400px for full size; I've moved up to 100px and 600px ... what's your recommendation for the 2009 standard of computing and internet speeds? > 4. The server is as slow as snot in molasses in January. > It usually is. But then, they say you get what you pay for and Oldengine.org is free, so I'm happy enough with it! > One question: Did you bring your cleaning supplies to spiffy up the > area around all the engines that you shot? Many times the > photographer's challenge is finding an engine that isn't surrounded by > half-eaten sandwiches, plastic oil cans, and dirty rags. Could it be > that Euros are tidier than Yanks? > We are a civilised part of the world you know. And the showground was out of town, so no danger of littering McD wrappers! My usual problem is trying to avoid plastic safety fencing, but Nuenen had only a single line of rope to protect innocent victims - I mean visitors - from attacking flywheels and such like. Dolly -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From steve_royster at hotmail.com Sun Jul 12 12:00:04 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:00:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: Great Job Dolly, Why you even beat Arnie getting his photos uploaded for us. ..... but he's working on the Lorenz Registry, right Arnie????? > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:19:02 +0100 > From: fbi at insulate.co.uk > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 > > Hi All > > I realise I've been very slow in getting the webpages done for the > Nuenen show, but at least I've got pictures available for everyone to > enjoy before anyone who went on the EHOWT09 has done! > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/nuenen1.htm > > Dolly > > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jul 12 12:35:40 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:35:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <006601ca0327$f089c8d0$83674b47@mikecomp> I was most impressed and it made want to go back. However Steve is wrong, Arnie is working on restoring the Fero compressor, the Lorenz registry comes way after that project. MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 Great Job Dolly, Why you even beat Arnie getting his photos uploaded for us. ..... but he's working on the Lorenz Registry, right Arnie????? > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:19:02 +0100 > From: fbi at insulate.co.uk > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 > > Hi All > > I realise I've been very slow in getting the webpages done for the > Nuenen show, but at least I've got pictures available for everyone to > enjoy before anyone who went on the EHOWT09 has done! > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/nuenen1.htm > > Dolly > > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jul 12 12:48:12 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] My bad, was RE: Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> References: <20090712040149.48AE8678447@secure.fsr.com> <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Dolly, You have indeed hit upon one of the really unique aspects of Nuenen. I've participated in a number of those conversations, EXACTLY as you describe. And both the engine owner and I parted ways happier for the experience. I can't wait till Nuenen 2010! EHOWT10 anyone? Meow!! 8-)) See ya, Arnie On Sun, July 12, 2009 9:12 am, Jim French wrote: > The wonderful thing about Nuenen is that you're never sure how to cross > the language barrier. Will the owner be English, Dutch, Belgian, > French, German, Hungarian etc etc, and which language will they speak? > It was amazing how much of a conversation could be had in two completely > different languages, plus a lot of gestures! I also noticed during one > conversation that the engine owner was familiar with technical engine > terms, but struggled with some every day conversational language! From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jul 12 12:55:40 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:55:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <2a9a5362b71ffa27c08117f3969cfd24.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Erp... Hmmmm. Damn, you caught me napping there. Now what was it we were talking about? On Sun, July 12, 2009 3:00 pm, Steve Royster wrote: > > Great Job Dolly, Why you even beat Arnie getting his photos uploaded for us. ..... > but he's working on the Lorenz Registry, right Arnie????? From fbi at insulate.co.uk Sun Jul 12 12:50:48 2009 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:50:48 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <006601ca0327$f089c8d0$83674b47@mikecomp> References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> <006601ca0327$f089c8d0$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <4A5A3E98.5070705@insulate.co.uk> I think you'll find that before ALL those things comes "The Yank Returns Again", the trip report from 2002. Then the various subsequant trips. Dolly Mike Royster wrote: > I was most impressed and it made want to go back. However Steve is wrong, > Arnie is working on restoring the Fero compressor, the Lorenz registry comes > way after that project. > > MR > -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From rob at rustyiron.com Sun Jul 12 12:52:47 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:52:47 -0700 Subject: [SEL] My bad In-Reply-To: References: <20090712040149.48AE8678447@secure.fsr.com> <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: Hey, Cuz. I never would have thought you hillbillies were so prudish. Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com On Jul 12, 2009, at 11:26 AM, frank skinner wrote: > being dressed however, is usually a social requirement :-) From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Jul 12 13:21:07 2009 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:21:07 -0400 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2FD9231E5AF74F5992FDF90971BFB9F4@DBTOA000> Steve, I hope you made it home from my place in one piece. Thanks. Tommy -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve Royster Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:00 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 Great Job Dolly, Why you even beat Arnie getting his photos uploaded for us. ..... but he's working on the Lorenz Registry, right Arnie????? > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:19:02 +0100 > From: fbi at insulate.co.uk > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 > > Hi All > > I realise I've been very slow in getting the webpages done for the > Nuenen show, but at least I've got pictures available for everyone to > enjoy before anyone who went on the EHOWT09 has done! > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/nuenen1.htm > > Dolly > > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows LiveT SkyDriveT: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Sun Jul 12 13:24:45 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:24:45 -0700 Subject: [SEL] My bad In-Reply-To: <4A5A2D80.5080808@insulate.co.uk> References: <20090712040149.48AE8678447@secure.fsr.com> <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> <4A5A2D80.5080808@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <2A646E27-EDCF-4E39-8AD8-9170D773DC12@rustyiron.com> > I've been wondering about sizes for a while. It's twue, it's twue! Sorry, Jim. > what's your > recommendation for the 2009 standard of computing and internet speeds? Translation: "Rob, take off your shirt and hold still while I paint this bullseye on your back." That's ok, I'll play. That was a long time ago, but my thought process is the same. Computer displays and internet speeds are improving exponentially, and a web page that is "ok" today will be totally lame in a couple years. Considering the amount of time required to build a good page, I prefer to "go big" to ensure that the web page will stay fresh a little longer. To answer your question numerically, on a web page I do by hand, I like the images to be 800x600 with compression that doesn't damage quality much. Sometimes I use an automated web page generator so I can get a fancy "pimped out" look. It displays the main picture at about 550 pixels wide and I can't adjust it. It does, however, let me serve up a full size image at 1280 wide. THAT is the size that I like to see pictures, but it's not practical for the main web page. The result of these ideas is that the pictures will look great for someone with a modern computer and high-speed internet access. For someone with an eight year old computer, it's likely to be an unsatisfying experience. > We are a civilised part of the world you know. And the showground was > out of town, so no danger of littering McD wrappers! My usual problem > is trying to avoid plastic safety fencing, but Nuenen had only a > single > line of rope to protect innocent victims - I mean visitors - from > attacking flywheels and such like. You mean Aussie style fence? Rope is easy?just ask the engine owner if you can take down the rope to get your shot. I've never been denied photograhic access. Even the most curmudgeonly engineman will acquiesce if there's a chance of being published or if the photographer is a cute lass who will add to the aesthetic component of his display. Rob From rob at rustyiron.com Sun Jul 12 13:31:52 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:31:52 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A5A3E98.5070705@insulate.co.uk> References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> <006601ca0327$f089c8d0$83674b47@mikecomp> <4A5A3E98.5070705@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <990B69F7-33EB-415C-BE50-82463EB51C57@rustyiron.com> On Jul 12, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Jim French wrote: > I think you'll find that before ALL those things comes "The Yank > Returns > Again", the trip report from 2002. Then the various subsequant trips. > > Dolly Arnie, Just take your digital camera to Walmart and have them make some prints. Then type out your story on your computer (edlin?), and print it out on your dot matrix printer. Stick it all in a 9x12 envelope and send it off to Dolly. She can turn it into a web page for you. Rob http://tinyurl.com/k3qi From marinesurveys at msn.com Sun Jul 12 13:47:07 2009 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:47:07 -0400 Subject: [SEL] My bad In-Reply-To: References: <20090712040149.48AE8678447@secure.fsr.com> <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: Well Rob,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, its really all those pesky bugs :-} Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: rob at rustyiron.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:52:47 -0700 > Subject: Re: [SEL] My bad > > Hey, Cuz. I never would have thought you hillbillies were so prudish. > > > Rob Skinner > Antique Stationary Engines > La Habra, California > > rob at rustyiron.com > www.rustyiron.com > > > > > > On Jul 12, 2009, at 11:26 AM, frank skinner wrote: > > > being dressed however, is usually a social requirement :-) > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jul 12 14:26:55 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:26:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A5A3E98.5070705@insulate.co.uk> References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> <006601ca0327$f089c8d0$83674b47@mikecomp> <4A5A3E98.5070705@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <5490be3c6122ddea218f6f6603dd02de.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> I think I need an assistant... On Sun, July 12, 2009 3:50 pm, Jim French wrote: > I think you'll find that before ALL those things comes "The Yank Returns > Again", the trip report from 2002. Then the various subsequant trips. > > Dolly > > Mike Royster wrote: >> I was most impressed and it made want to go back. However Steve is wrong, >> Arnie is working on restoring the Fero compressor, the Lorenz registry comes >> way after that project. From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jul 12 14:31:19 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:31:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder In-Reply-To: <2FD9231E5AF74F5992FDF90971BFB9F4@DBTOA000> References: <2FD9231E5AF74F5992FDF90971BFB9F4@DBTOA000> Message-ID: <0f7c67a4213ec1ce0fc290601173de5b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hey Tommy, There's a rumor going around that the plunder that left your place with those two scalliwag Cloistered Oysters was SUCH a haul that they're taking all back roads going home to avoid troopers with portable scales. Can you shed any light on the weekend's events? Pictures (or mug shots) would be even better. See ya, Arnie On Sun, July 12, 2009 4:21 pm, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > > Steve, I hope you made it home from my place in one piece. Thanks. From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jul 12 14:33:21 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <990B69F7-33EB-415C-BE50-82463EB51C57@rustyiron.com> References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> <006601ca0327$f089c8d0$83674b47@mikecomp> <4A5A3E98.5070705@insulate.co.uk> <990B69F7-33EB-415C-BE50-82463EB51C57@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <5b0666f5a1d291d96ab8e23a2f95f447.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hmmmmm, methinks I'm being abused.... On Sun, July 12, 2009 4:31 pm, Rob Skinner wrote: > Just take your digital camera to Walmart and have them make some > prints. Then type out your story on your computer (edlin?), and print > it out on your dot matrix printer. Stick it all in a 9x12 envelope > and send it off to Dolly. She can turn it into a web page for you. From rotigel at me.com Sun Jul 12 14:46:21 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:46:21 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: On Jul 11, 2009, at 8:19 AM, Jim French wrote: > Hi All > > I realise I've been very slow in getting the webpages done for the > Nuenen show, but at least I've got pictures available for everyone to > enjoy before anyone who went on the EHOWT09 has done! > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/nuenen1.htm > > Dolly Hi Dolly, GREAT pictures. I really enjoyed them! I do wish, however, that when someone posts engine pictures that they would not include pictures of people with the engines. It really gets in the way of enjoying the finer points of the engines, and after all that's why most of us go to shows! Dave PS, Tell Jim I said THANKS for his letting you use HIS computer! (You surely have a loving and caring husband there!) From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Jul 12 14:58:29 2009 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:58:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder In-Reply-To: <0f7c67a4213ec1ce0fc290601173de5b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Well Arnie, all I can tell you is I went to the shop yesterday morning and didn't have room to park a push mower. This morning I went up there and now I can park a semi in it! Not sure if someone spiked my Diet Pepsi while I wasn't looking yesterday or what. All I can say is watch those guys from NC! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:31 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder Hey Tommy, There's a rumor going around that the plunder that left your place with those two scalliwag Cloistered Oysters was SUCH a haul that they're taking all back roads going home to avoid troopers with portable scales. Can you shed any light on the weekend's events? Pictures (or mug shots) would be even better. See ya, Arnie On Sun, July 12, 2009 4:21 pm, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > > Steve, I hope you made it home from my place in one piece. Thanks. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Sun Jul 12 15:14:06 2009 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:14:06 EDT Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder Message-ID: Tommy I am always looking to empty a few pieces out of a guys shop. You need to make some more room? KK In a message dated 7/12/2009 3:05:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: Well Arnie, all I can tell you is I went to the shop yesterday morning and didn't have room to park a push mower. This morning I went up there and now I can park a semi in it! Not sure if someone spiked my Diet Pepsi while I wasn't looking yesterday or what. All I can say is watch those guys from NC! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:31 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder Hey Tommy, There's a rumor going around that the plunder that left your place with those two scalliwag Cloistered Oysters was SUCH a haul that they're taking all back roads going home to avoid troopers with portable scales. Can you shed any light on the weekend's events? Pictures (or mug shots) would be even better. See ya, Arnie On Sun, July 12, 2009 4:21 pm, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > > Steve, I hope you made it home from my place in one piece. Thanks. **************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003) From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jul 12 15:31:20 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:31:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder References: Message-ID: <002b01ca0340$7b423fd0$83674b47@mikecomp> It was the dangdest thing. Steve and Tommy hunkered down over in the corner and went to swapping dollars, then I saw Steve and Tommy toast the deal with some diet Pepsis Steve had in his cooler. Next thing I know Tommy is all swimmy headed and sits down over in the lounge chair and gets real sleepy like. Steve then tells me he and Tommy struck a new deal and we were to hook up to Tommy's big trailer and load the truck and trailer. Before you know it, we had a load of Hagans, Geisers and Ottos (oh my) and some of the nicest carts too. But before we left, Steve went over and drug Tommy under the shade so he wouldn't burn in that hot sun. My brother is considerate like that. As we drove out the driveway Tommy decided he was through napping and started waiving something fierce, you could tell he was choked up a bit and staggering a might too. Well, being southern and all, we waived back and hollered back too. I could here him saying "Yall come back here!!" He was already missing us something powerful. And then Steve muttered something soft like "oh we will Tommy, we sure will." This engine friendship is a powerful bond. My brother has that effect on folks......... MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder > Well Arnie, all I can tell you is I went to the shop yesterday morning > and didn't have room to park a push mower. This morning I went up there > and now I can park a semi in it! Not sure if someone spiked my Diet > Pepsi while I wasn't looking yesterday or what. All I can say is watch > those guys from NC! > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:31 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder > > Hey Tommy, > > There's a rumor going around that the plunder that left your place with > those two > scalliwag Cloistered Oysters was SUCH a haul that they're taking all > back roads > going home to avoid troopers with portable scales. > > Can you shed any light on the weekend's events? Pictures (or mug shots) > would be > even better. > > See ya, Arnie > > On Sun, July 12, 2009 4:21 pm, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: >> >> Steve, I hope you made it home from my place in one piece. Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 12 16:04:14 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:04:14 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <3BEF0333DB1E4A20A44866A5C3262D2A@PAUL> Great pictures and captions Dolly, thanks for taking the time and effort to put this together so those of us who were not fortunate enough to attend could see the fine engine displays. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim French" To: "ATIS Stationary Engine List" Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:19 AM Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 > Hi All > > I realise I've been very slow in getting the webpages done for the > Nuenen show, but at least I've got pictures available for everyone to > enjoy before anyone who went on the EHOWT09 has done! > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/nuenen1.htm > > Dolly > > -- > From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Jul 12 16:16:49 2009 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:16:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder In-Reply-To: <002b01ca0340$7b423fd0$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: Darn Mike, I want to be hospitable...... but!!!!! The last fellas that came in here were from California. I tried to be hospitable to them and gave 'em some hunks of cheese and crackers. With you NC boys, I gave you some hunks of iron and got cracked! What's the world coming to? Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mike Royster Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 6:31 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder It was the dangdest thing. Steve and Tommy hunkered down over in the corner and went to swapping dollars, then I saw Steve and Tommy toast the deal with some diet Pepsis Steve had in his cooler. Next thing I know Tommy is all swimmy headed and sits down over in the lounge chair and gets real sleepy like. Steve then tells me he and Tommy struck a new deal and we were to hook up to Tommy's big trailer and load the truck and trailer. Before you know it, we had a load of Hagans, Geisers and Ottos (oh my) and some of the nicest carts too. But before we left, Steve went over and drug Tommy under the shade so he wouldn't burn in that hot sun. My brother is considerate like that. As we drove out the driveway Tommy decided he was through napping and started waiving something fierce, you could tell he was choked up a bit and staggering a might too. Well, being southern and all, we waived back and hollered back too. I could here him saying "Yall come back here!!" He was already missing us something powerful. And then Steve muttered something soft like "oh we will Tommy, we sure will." This engine friendship is a powerful bond. My brother has that effect on folks......... MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder > Well Arnie, all I can tell you is I went to the shop yesterday morning > and didn't have room to park a push mower. This morning I went up there > and now I can park a semi in it! Not sure if someone spiked my Diet > Pepsi while I wasn't looking yesterday or what. All I can say is watch > those guys from NC! > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:31 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder > > Hey Tommy, > > There's a rumor going around that the plunder that left your place with > those two > scalliwag Cloistered Oysters was SUCH a haul that they're taking all > back roads > going home to avoid troopers with portable scales. > > Can you shed any light on the weekend's events? Pictures (or mug shots) > would be > even better. > > See ya, Arnie > > On Sun, July 12, 2009 4:21 pm, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: >> >> Steve, I hope you made it home from my place in one piece. Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.6/2221 - Release Date: 07/12/09 08:20:00 From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Sun Jul 12 16:29:28 2009 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:29:28 EDT Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder Message-ID: Moon shine Tommy. Those NC mountains are always smokin. KK In a message dated 7/12/2009 7:25:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: Darn Mike, I want to be hospitable...... but!!!!! The last fellas that came in here were from California. I tried to be hospitable to them and gave 'em some hunks of cheese and crackers. With you NC boys, I gave you some hunks of iron and got cracked! What's the world coming to? Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY **************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003) From flywheelin at hotmail.com Sun Jul 12 16:50:28 2009 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:50:28 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Any Michigan Shows In-Reply-To: <49E9A95AA7F54303BF05527592BC202B@Ed> References: <49E9A95AA7F54303BF05527592BC202B@Ed> Message-ID: Hi Ed, My local show is this coming weekend. July 16, 17, 18. It is located just west of Grand Rapids, MI. http://riverbendsteamandgas.i8.com/tyshow.html If steam is your thing there is a really good one in Mason August 1. Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ==================================== > From: edstoller at earthlink.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:36:58 -0400 > Subject: [SEL] Any Michigan Shows > > When and where are the engine shows in Michigan please?? > > Reference,Sharing_Small_Engine_Secrets at yahoogroups.com > > Thanks Ed, I got it now .... There are several shows around the Michigan > area yearly and I did not know the true history and how they evolved .. I > will make it a point to attend a show ... Who knows, there may be one around > here this weekend ... > > Fred B ( moderator ) > > Ed Stoller > New Fairfield, CT > http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 From steve_royster at hotmail.com Sun Jul 12 17:00:00 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:00:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <2FD9231E5AF74F5992FDF90971BFB9F4@DBTOA000> References: <2FD9231E5AF74F5992FDF90971BFB9F4@DBTOA000> Message-ID: Well Tommy, Ya forgot to tell us about those Kentucky constables, We encountered alittle resistance trying to haul off your old reject iron, but my brother,the silver tongued devil he is, soon had us on our way again and we made it home with the loot just fine. We even had a crankup this morning after we got the ignitor unstuck and the dirt daubers out of the mixer. I'll let Mike tell the rest of the story. Thanks for a great day. Steve > From: lcjudge at scrtc.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:21:07 -0400 > Subject: [SEL] (no subject) > > Steve, I hope you made it home from my place in one piece. Thanks. > > Tommy > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve > Royster > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:00 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 > > > Great Job Dolly, Why you even beat Arnie getting his photos uploaded for > us. ..... but he's working on the Lorenz Registry, right Arnie????? > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:19:02 +0100 > > From: fbi at insulate.co.uk > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 > > > > Hi All > > > > I realise I've been very slow in getting the webpages done for the > > Nuenen show, but at least I've got pictures available for everyone to > > enjoy before anyone who went on the EHOWT09 has done! > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/nuenen1.htm > > > > Dolly > > > > -- > > Jim French > > fbi at insulate.co.uk > > http://www.insulate.co.uk > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows LiveT SkyDriveT: Get 25 GB of free online storage. > http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Sun Jul 12 17:06:56 2009 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:06:56 EDT Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: Steve I probably have missed half the story what did Tommy let go? Getting into KY is good but getting out with old iron MMMMMMMMMMMM. KK In a message dated 7/12/2009 5:05:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, steve_royster at hotmail.com writes: Well Tommy, Ya forgot to tell us about those Kentucky constables, We encountered alittle resistance trying to haul off your old reject iron, but my brother,the silver tongued devil he is, soon had us on our way again and we made it home with the loot just fine. We even had a crankup this morning after we got the ignitor unstuck and the dirt daubers out of the mixer. I'll let Mike tell the rest of the story. Thanks for a great day. Steve **************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003) From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jul 12 19:40:27 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8b3a7aec8f2cc8c98ead4e164ce55336.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Well Tommy, I do feel bad. I should have warned you. I spent the better part of two weeks visiting high-end engine collectors in the Netherlands, Germany, and Belgium with those Cloistered Oyster scamps. At every stop, there they'd be off in a corner, a plottin' and a schemin', pointin' this way and that. I think the only thing that saved those collections was the fact that George & Harry didn't have a trailer draggin' behind that van. So after two weeks of that full-time temptation... Meow! Well, it must be like that good ol' boy who agreed to watch the titty bar for his friend who was the owner. After two weeks of being able to look but not touch, well he was fit to explode. I think that's the condition the Cloistered Oysters were it. They had you out matched Tommy. And no one warned you. Sorry 'bout that. See ya, Arnie On Sun, July 12, 2009 5:58 pm, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Well Arnie, all I can tell you is I went to the shop yesterday morning > and didn't have room to park a push mower. This morning I went up there > and now I can park a semi in it! Not sure if someone spiked my Diet > Pepsi while I wasn't looking yesterday or what. All I can say is watch > those guys from NC! > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:31 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder > > Hey Tommy, > > There's a rumor going around that the plunder that left your place with > those two > scalliwag Cloistered Oysters was SUCH a haul that they're taking all > back roads > going home to avoid troopers with portable scales. > > Can you shed any light on the weekend's events? Pictures (or mug shots) > would be > even better. > > See ya, Arnie > > On Sun, July 12, 2009 4:21 pm, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: >> >> Steve, I hope you made it home from my place in one piece. Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Jul 12 21:05:16 2009 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:05:16 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder In-Reply-To: <8b3a7aec8f2cc8c98ead4e164ce55336.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <679FA2B88D464A6C99628E91930398C1@DBTOA000> Darn right they did Arnie! These two worked together as well as any wrestling tag team I've ever seen. They also pulled a bit of the "good cop/bad cop" routine.... although I've yet to figure out which one was truly the "good" one (they both hosed me over pretty good I think). Oh well, its just live and learn around the Turner engine shed. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY They had you out matched Tommy. And no one warned you. Sorry 'bout that. See ya, Arnie From al.harris at rustic-engines.com Sun Jul 12 21:52:23 2009 From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:52:23 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Ignition paper for Field Marshall In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A5ABD87.3010306@rustic-engines.com> Attn everybody, an owner of a FM tractor is running low on ignition strips (touch paper) to start it. Does anybody (silly me) know the strength of saltpetre solution (potassium nitrate) to soak the blotting paper in, so that the right amount of crystals are left in the dried paper to give a good burn. TIA, Al Harris Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com From plowe at exemail.com.au Sun Jul 12 23:52:15 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:52:15 +1000 Subject: [SEL] auction bargain References: <3769846FCD564A5E9762276624F58FC0@peterlowe> <20090712142832.148E21D0CB8@mail04.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <38E959F4E03C4358807954E1A92EA295@peterlowe> A pig is worth as much as an R&V, very strange ;-))) Peter, Oz > An IHC LA LB brings nearly as much as a 1 hp R&V Go Figure. Mark > > > At 07:10 AM 7/12/2009, you wrote: >>Hi All >> >>How is this for an auction report from a lucky R&V buyer. >>He went with $1500 to buy the R&V and came back with more than a bargain. >> >>$400 for the 1hp "L", R & V, complete including original skids, >>battery box, coil and some old eveready No. 16 dry cells . >>11/2 Fairbanks Morris headless on a nice waterloo Boy cart $550 >>2 HP witte with a new gas tank very good compression $350. >>IHC LA 1/12-2/12 complete $350. >>Economy 11/2 JK Parts engine $10.. >> >>Regards >>Peter Lowe >>R&V Engine Registrar >>Australia >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>Skype name: ozengines >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.11/2232 - Release Date: >>07/11/09 17:56:00 > > Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for > this Country! > > Mark Shulaw > 454 Co. Rd. 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Jul 13 03:48:55 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:48:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder References: <679FA2B88D464A6C99628E91930398C1@DBTOA000> Message-ID: <001701ca03a7$852078c0$83674b47@mikecomp> Why it's as easy to tell as the French twins. Steve (evil) has that souless eye stare hypnotizing look, and Mike (good) looks like a choir boy, some say you can even see the halo over him and hear harp music while around him. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder > Darn right they did Arnie! These two worked together as well as any > wrestling tag team I've ever seen. They also pulled a bit of the "good > cop/bad cop" routine.... although I've yet to figure out which one was > truly the "good" one (they both hosed me over pretty good I think). Oh > well, its just live and learn around the Turner engine shed. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > > They had you out matched Tommy. And no one warned you. Sorry 'bout > that. > > See ya, Arnie > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From marinesurveys at msn.com Mon Jul 13 04:02:32 2009 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:02:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] auction bargain In-Reply-To: <38E959F4E03C4358807954E1A92EA295@peterlowe> References: <3769846FCD564A5E9762276624F58FC0@peterlowe> <20090712142832.148E21D0CB8@mail04.wcoil.com> <38E959F4E03C4358807954E1A92EA295@peterlowe> Message-ID: But you can train a pig to do what a good R/V can do ;-} Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: plowe at exemail.com.au > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:52:15 +1000 > Subject: Re: [SEL] auction bargain > > A pig is worth as much as an R&V, very strange ;-))) > Peter, Oz > > > > > An IHC LA LB brings nearly as much as a 1 hp R&V Go Figure. Mark > > > > > > At 07:10 AM 7/12/2009, you wrote: > >>Hi All > >> > >>How is this for an auction report from a lucky R&V buyer. > >>He went with $1500 to buy the R&V and came back with more than a bargain. > >> > >>$400 for the 1hp "L", R & V, complete including original skids, > >>battery box, coil and some old eveready No. 16 dry cells . > >>11/2 Fairbanks Morris headless on a nice waterloo Boy cart $550 > >>2 HP witte with a new gas tank very good compression $350. > >>IHC LA 1/12-2/12 complete $350. > >>Economy 11/2 JK Parts engine $10.. > >> > >>Regards > >>Peter Lowe > >>R&V Engine Registrar > >>Australia > >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > >>Skype name: ozengines > >>_______________________________________________ > >>SEL mailing list > >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> > >>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.11/2232 - Release Date: > >>07/11/09 17:56:00 > > > > Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for > > this Country! > > > > Mark Shulaw > > 454 Co. Rd. 33 > > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > > USA > > > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Mon Jul 13 04:23:18 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:23:18 +1000 Subject: [SEL] My bad, was RE: Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Dolly, your 'favourite engine' looks to be a copy of the IHC Famous vertical engine. Thanks for the great pictures. Patrick Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon Jul 13 04:27:09 2009 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:27:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder In-Reply-To: <001701ca03a7$852078c0$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: Come to think of it, I do remember faintly hearing music. Around Steve, I could hear the theme from Jaws. Thanks for straightening me out on this (Saint) Mike. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mike Royster Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 6:49 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder Why it's as easy to tell as the French twins. Steve (evil) has that souless eye stare hypnotizing look, and Mike (good) looks like a choir boy, some say you can even see the halo over him and hear harp music while around him. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder > Darn right they did Arnie! These two worked together as well as any > wrestling tag team I've ever seen. They also pulled a bit of the "good > cop/bad cop" routine.... although I've yet to figure out which one was > truly the "good" one (they both hosed me over pretty good I think). Oh > well, its just live and learn around the Turner engine shed. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > > They had you out matched Tommy. And no one warned you. Sorry 'bout > that. > > See ya, Arnie > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.374 / Virus Database: 270.12.69/2176 - Release Date: 07/12/09 17:56:00 From fbi at insulate.co.uk Mon Jul 13 07:38:12 2009 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:38:12 +0100 Subject: [SEL] My bad, was RE: Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A5B46D4.6040702@insulate.co.uk> I think you're right, Patrick - I am absolutely useless at remembering the names! Dolly Patrick wrote: > Hi Dolly, > your 'favourite engine' looks to be a copy of the IHC Famous vertical > engine. > Thanks for the great pictures. > Patrick > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From fbi at insulate.co.uk Mon Jul 13 07:45:01 2009 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:45:01 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <4A5B486D.6010903@insulate.co.uk> Hi Dave I have apologised for my shortcomings in this regard, and will happily do so again. That's what you get when you let a woman loose with a camera at an engine show. I now have an added problem this situation causes. I tend to go round shows on my own, and at Astle Park recently, Jim was some way behind. Someone I have never met complained to him that I'd walked past his engine and not taken a photograph of it! I can see I'm going to have to start taking pictures of every single engine, to avoid causing offence! Dolly PS Thinking about it, letting a woman loose with a camera is perhaps better in some ways than, say, letting Arnie loose at an engine show. At least you have a chance of seeing SOME of the pictures, eventually. David Rotigel wrote: > Hi Dolly, > GREAT pictures. I really enjoyed them! I do wish, however, that when > someone posts engine pictures that they would not include pictures of > people with the engines. It really gets in the way of enjoying the > finer points of the engines, and after all that's why most of us go to > shows! > Dave > PS, Tell Jim I said THANKS for his letting you use HIS computer! (You > surely have a loving and caring husband there!) > _______________________________________________ > -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From falcon at telenet.net Mon Jul 13 08:08:02 2009 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:08:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Ignition paper for Field Marshall In-Reply-To: <4A5ABD87.3010306@rustic-engines.com> References: <4A5ABD87.3010306@rustic-engines.com> Message-ID: <4A5B4DD2.4030804@telenet.net> Al Harris wrote: > Attn everybody, > > an owner of a FM tractor is running low on ignition strips (touch paper) > to start it. > > Does anybody (silly me) know the strength of saltpetre solution > (potassium nitrate) to soak the blotting paper in, so that the right > amount of crystals are left in the dried paper to give a good burn. > > TIA, > > Al Harris > Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz > > al.harris at rustic-engines.com > > I think the mix is 200 grams to 800 CC of distilled water. -- Steve W From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Jul 13 11:26:49 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:26:49 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090713201558.0184d6a8@mail.atech.co.za> At 06:00 PM 13/07/2009, you wrote: >Message: 13 >Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:31:52 -0700 >From: Rob Skinner >Subject: Re: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 >To: The SEL email discussion list > >On Jul 12, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Jim French wrote: > > > I think you'll find that before ALL those things comes "The Yank > > Returns > > Again", the trip report from 2002. Then the various subsequant trips. > > > > Dolly > > >Arnie, >Just take your digital camera to Walmart and have them make some >prints. Then type out your story on your computer (edlin?), and print >it out on your dot matrix printer. Stick it all in a 9x12 envelope >and send it off to Dolly. She can turn it into a web page for you. > >Rob >http://tinyurl.com/k3qi "edlin" ?????? Wow I Haven't seen that command for years !!!! Rob, I thought you were on "Mac" !! Jerry P.S. (Between you and I - I DID get your point.) From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Jul 13 11:35:33 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:35:33 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090713203019.0182e848@mail.atech.co.za> At 06:00 PM 13/07/2009, you wrote: >Message: 17 >From: "Arnie Fero" > >Hmmmmm, methinks I'm being abused.... Seriously !!!!! With a capital "C" (Sorry - it's a South African thing.) Jerry From rolfb at accima.com Mon Jul 13 12:07:54 2009 From: rolfb at accima.com (Bob W7AVK) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:07:54 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Lister SL-3 Help Message-ID: <4A5B860A.2070103@accima.com> Hi - Have been a list lunker for a couple years. Finally started a project of refurbishing a Lister SL-3. But have run into a problem. The engine had been sitting outside for years and is frozen. When the heads were removed found water in two cylinders. Both cylinder walls are rusted and pitted with one being much worse than the other. Seems to be where the engine is frozen, but haven't been able to pull the pistons yet. That's the next job. I'm open to suggestions as to how to proceed? What can be done to repair the cylinder? Can the cylinders be bored and over sized pistons fitted? Do such over size parts exist? And where are standard parts available, on the cheap, for the SL3? :-) Thanks for reading. Regards, Bob R Moses Lake, WA. USA From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Jul 13 13:09:36 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:09:36 +0200 Subject: [SEL] : Re: My bad-Rob/Helen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090713203836.0184aec0@mail.atech.co.za> At 06:00 PM 13/07/2009, you wrote: >From: Rob Skinner >Subject: Re: [SEL] My bad >On Jul 12, 2009, at 6:12 AM, Jim French wrote: > > I had a real struggle sorting the pictures out. > >Rob Skinner >Antique Stationary Engines >La Habra, California BUT ----------- I do agree with what ROB is saying - many years ago when I wrote my first webpage a monitor size of 640 x 480 pixels (VGA) was considered "BIG" . Then came 800 x 600 (we all said "WOW") then came something bigger - then even bigger et al (I do not want to even go there!). Monitors became "higher resolution". On my first webpages a picture (we are all only interested in looking at the pictures after all - not so) of 640 x 480 provided a really nice picture that we could all see "detail" on. Then came "Broadband" and higher Internet Connection speeds combined with higher "Monitor Resolution" which meant that many of us could download (remember that "Downloading" does not necessarily mean "saving to disk" - even "looking" at the pic in your Browser (before saving) - it means "data (or kilobytes) transferred from your server to your computer (the system has to move "bytes" or "kilobytes or "megabytes" or "whatever" and this is what you pay for). I understand that costs may differ depending on your "Global position" - In South Africa (where I am) we are limited to a "cap" (in my case 2 Gigabytes per month for the amount of money I pay) Broadband has become a lot cheaper but we, on the "oldengine" or "SEL" lists still have to consider our members who cannot access "broadband" (I was one of them until recently). I know and understand that we cannot be limited by those of us that are not lucky enough to have "broadband access". SO, Where to from here ? Sorry guys but I do not have the answer- My personal feeling is (in spite of having been a "dial-up" user for many years) - Forward (the Internet will never go backwards). Helen, I'm thinking, make your "thumbnail" a lot bigger (at least 250 pixels wide) and put 2 links to it - 1 for "low resolution" (for the "non-broadband" users) and 1 (high resolution for those of us lucky enough to have broadband). I know it's a lot of extra work (that's why I have not gone there yet) but you are, after all, our favourite "Webmistress" and we all love you. That's my bit for tonight !!!! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From lfevans at pacbell.net Mon Jul 13 16:30:33 2009 From: lfevans at pacbell.net (Larry Evans) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:30:33 -0700 Subject: [SEL] : Re: My bad-Rob/Helen In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090713203836.0184aec0@mail.atech.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090713203836.0184aec0@mail.atech.co.za> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20090713155820.04464288@pop.att.yahoo.com> Hi........... In regards to Jerry's thoughts on web page picture size here is a small page I put together about a year ago: http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/thrall/index.htm I was kind of experimenting with image sizes and tried the thumbnails at 320 x 240 pixels. They are big enough in their own right to see pretty good detail and the file sizes average around 30 KB. Clicking on the thumbnail doubles the dimensions to 640 x 480 and the file size is around 90 KB. On the pages with the larger pictures I have a link to the original full size pictures which are 2272 x 1704 pixels and probably average around 2 MB per picture. I'd be interested in thoughts (especially from dial-up users) regarding this general format for future pages. Regards, Larry (the other Evans) At 01:09 PM 7/13/2009, you wrote: > Helen, I'm thinking, make your "thumbnail" a lot bigger (at least >250 pixels wide) and put 2 links to it - 1 for "low resolution" (for the >"non-broadband" users) and 1 (high resolution for those of us lucky enough >to have broadband). I know it's a lot of extra work (that's why I have not >gone there yet) but you are, after all, our favourite "Webmistress" and we >all love you. >That's my bit for tonight !!!! > >Keep the revs up (or down) >Jerry Evans >Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Larry Evans MailTo:LFEVANS at pacbell.net http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ From al.harris at rustic-engines.com Mon Jul 13 18:03:03 2009 From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:03:03 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Ignition paper for Field Marshall In-Reply-To: <4A5B4DD2.4030804@telenet.net> References: <4A5ABD87.3010306@rustic-engines.com> <4A5B4DD2.4030804@telenet.net> Message-ID: <4A5BD947.8050100@rustic-engines.com> Thanks Steve, and those "off list". I know have to figure out which faction is correct. 2 ounces to a pint (56.68 gms to 470cc) - equivalent to (96.48gms to 800cc) or 200gms to 800cc I'm not splitting hairs here. One is twice the strength of the other. Does it matter? Cheers, Al Harris Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com Steve W. wrote: > Al Harris wrote: > >> Attn everybody, >> >> an owner of a FM tractor is running low on ignition strips (touch paper) >> to start it. >> >> Does anybody (silly me) know the strength of saltpetre solution >> (potassium nitrate) to soak the blotting paper in, so that the right >> amount of crystals are left in the dried paper to give a good burn. >> >> TIA, >> >> Al Harris >> Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz >> >> al.harris at rustic-engines.com >> >> >> > > I think the mix is > 200 grams to 800 CC of distilled water. > > From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Mon Jul 13 23:24:37 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:24:37 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Austral register July 2009 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A further update online for the register. I have added some more engines and engine pictures to the online version of the register at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austreg/australreg0709web.htm Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From cgandree at mchsi.com Tue Jul 14 04:21:39 2009 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:21:39 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <071420091121.15953.4A5C6A4300009FCD00003E51223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Hi Helen, Excellent job as always in your photo collection and webshot narrative. Always enjoy your display of pictures and especially the additional ones of who was all there. Kind of brings the whole world alot closer for those of us that are unable to attend. Thank you and keep up the good work! Curt Andree -------------- Original message from Jim French : -------------- > Hi All > > I realise I've been very slow in getting the webpages done for the > Nuenen show, but at least I've got pictures available for everyone to > enjoy before anyone who went on the EHOWT09 has done! > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/nuenen1.htm > > Dolly > > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Jul 14 05:28:24 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:28:24 +0200 Subject: [SEL] For Elden DuRand Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi Guys, Apologies for using the list for this private message to Elden. Hi Elden, mail from me to you is bouncing from your server - seems like it may be blocked. Please contact your ISP and check. Do you have another email address that I could use? Please reply "off list" to the normal address you use - I'm getting your mail just fine. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Tue Jul 14 06:12:08 2009 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (pjp08 at steamengine.com.au) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:12:08 +1000 (EST) Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf is me Paul From jlb94 at juno.com Tue Jul 14 07:21:40 2009 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:21:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Lister SL-3 Help Message-ID: <20090714.071725.21852.38629@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> Hi Bob, Been sitting' here waiting for some response to your problem. Haven't seen any. I'm not sure what kind of engine a Lister SL-3 is but, being on the SEL, I'm hoping it's a flywheel engine. My suggestion would be a lot of patience and a little common sense. I would probably try soaking the pistons with some sort of penetrant. Wether it be transmission fluid - kerosene - WD-40 - or a mixture you've made yourself. I would probably try "rocking" the flywheels however so slightly till you get a little movement. You might also try reinstalling the heads, making a Zirk Grease Fitting to fit the spark plug hole and pump grease into the cylinder. Again - A lot of patience and a little common sense. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ (_o_) Keep Pennsylvania beautiful - Ban large pumpkin colored highway signs. On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:07:54 -0700 Bob W7AVK writes: > Hi - Have been a list lunker for a couple years. Finally started a > project of refurbishing a Lister SL-3. But have run into a problem. > > The engine had been sitting outside for years and is frozen. When > the > heads were removed found water in two cylinders. Both cylinder > walls > are rusted and pitted with one being much worse than the other. > Seems > to be where the engine is frozen, but haven't been able to pull the > > pistons yet. That's the next job. > > > I'm open to suggestions as to how to proceed? What can be done to > > repair the cylinder? Can the cylinders be bored and over sized > pistons > fitted? Do such over size parts exist? And where are standard > parts > available, on the cheap, for the SL3? :-) > > > Thanks for reading. > > > Regards, > > > Bob R > Moses Lake, WA. USA > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________ Visit the City of Brotherly Love! Click now for great vacation packages to Philadelphia! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTMwIDZtfecGt8J0n7eMflgE1GCiV07gZzKXBQFoxT907FadNKUf9e/ From enginepaul at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 07:46:42 2009 From: enginepaul at gmail.com (P. Johns) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:46:42 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <8d3c36fb0907140746y7ab9bf9bt2f1e11ffc329e201@mail.gmail.com> Thank you for the pictures. It will be a while before I can travel to shows, so these pictures (great pictures at that) are as close to being there as possible for me. Paul in California From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Jul 14 10:00:58 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:00:58 +0200 Subject: [SEL] : Re: My bad-Rob/Helen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714183544.02a68e98@mail.atech.co.za> At 06:00 PM 14/07/2009, you wrote: >Message: 5 >Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:30:33 -0700 >From: Larry Evans >Subject: Re: [SEL] : Re: My bad-Rob/Helen >To: The SEL email discussion list >Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20090713155820.04464288 at pop.att.yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > >Hi........... > >In regards to Jerry's thoughts on web page picture size here is a small >page I put together about a year ago: > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/thrall/index.htm > >I was kind of experimenting with image sizes and tried the thumbnails at >320 x 240 pixels. They are big enough in their own right to see pretty >good detail and the file sizes average around 30 KB. Clicking on the >thumbnail doubles the dimensions to 640 x 480 and the file size is around >90 KB. On the pages with the larger pictures I have a link to the original >full size pictures which are 2272 x 1704 pixels and probably average around >2 MB per picture. > >I'd be interested in thoughts (especially from dial-up users) regarding >this general format for future pages. > >Regards, >Larry (the other Evans) Hi Larry, I like it. It's a bit more work but well worth it. The thumbnails are big enough to see if you want to look at the pic - the 2nd size is nice and if you want to see real detail you can go to the third size and use up a bit of bandwidth. I think that's even acceptable to dialup users - it's their choice if they want to see the pic. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From kimmell at verizon.net Tue Jul 14 10:41:00 2009 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:41:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] auction bargain In-Reply-To: <20090712142832.148E21D0CB8@mail04.wcoil.com> References: <3769846FCD564A5E9762276624F58FC0@peterlowe> <20090712142832.148E21D0CB8@mail04.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <0KMS00HER94P7750@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> At 09:28 AM 7/12/2009, you wrote: >An IHC LA LB brings nearly as much as a 1 hp R&V Go Figure. Mark No kidding... those things are everywhere, and are not interesting at all. Guess someone really wanted it. I wouldn't pay that much for an LA/LB unless it was totally restored. LOL -Tony From kimmell at verizon.net Tue Jul 14 10:52:10 2009 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:52:10 -0500 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscout s.org.au> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> Message-ID: <0KMS00FV49NBUP20@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> I have one too. Never thought the subject of Facebook would come up in this group. lol http://www.facebook.com/tony.kimmell -Tony At 08:12 AM 7/14/2009, you wrote: >Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... > >http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf > >is me > >Paul From fbi at insulate.co.uk Tue Jul 14 11:03:24 2009 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:03:24 +0100 Subject: [SEL] : Re: My bad-Rob/Helen In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714183544.02a68e98@mail.atech.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714183544.02a68e98@mail.atech.co.za> Message-ID: <4A5CC86C.6040701@insulate.co.uk> Thanks for all the advice - that system of Larry's does work well, but I'll have to do a test version to see how much extra time it takes. It's a great way to keep everyone happy. Dolly -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Jul 14 16:10:46 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:10:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder In-Reply-To: <001701ca03a7$852078c0$83674b47@mikecomp> References: <679FA2B88D464A6C99628E91930398C1@DBTOA000> <001701ca03a7$852078c0$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <46938e4f7d80f03de6da613b765aba85.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hey Tommy, And don't forget Mike's dimples. They're usually most prominent when he has that BIG smile on his face as he stands there jawin' with you, one hand on your shoulder (to keep you from reaching for your carry piece) while his OTHER hand is softly plucking your wallet out of your pocket, slipping out the cash and credit cards, and carefully putting it back in your pocket. Yep, all one handed. He's that good. As a very young buck Mike used to practice unhooking a womans bra. One handed. >From outside her blouse. While talking to her. Yes, he's THAT good. Bless his heart. 8->>> See ya, Arnie On Mon, July 13, 2009 6:48 am, Mike Royster wrote: > Why it's as easy to tell as the French twins. Steve (evil) has that souless > eye stare hypnotizing look, and Mike (good) looks like a choir boy, some say > you can even see the halo over him and hear harp music while around him. From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Jul 14 16:17:35 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:17:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction Message-ID: Hey Dave, Whassup with Portland and the Thursday night dinner & Charity Auction at the Back Forty? It's not that far away, and I don't think I've seen anything on the lists about it. Also would someone send me Bob Matthews' email addy? I thought I had it, but... Thanks. See ya, Arnie From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Jul 14 16:37:09 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A5B486D.6010903@insulate.co.uk> References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> <4A5B486D.6010903@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <2a7822abf55bd12e9088005c6876a6a9.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Rimshot! Badda-Bing! Budda-Boom! 8-)) On Mon, July 13, 2009 10:45 am, Jim French wrote: > PS Thinking about it, letting a woman loose with a camera is perhaps > better in some ways than, say, letting Arnie loose at an engine show. > At least you have a chance of seeing SOME of the pictures, eventually. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 13:30:14 2009 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:30:14 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Lister SL-3 Help In-Reply-To: <20090714.071725.21852.38629@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> References: <20090714.071725.21852.38629@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160907151330w4153d345o9a417113317561d8@mail.gmail.com> 2009/7/14 jlb94 : > Hi Bob, > Been sitting' here waiting for some response to your problem. > Haven't seen any. > I'm not sure what kind of engine a Lister SL-3 is but, being on the SEL, > I'm hoping it's a flywheel engine. Unfortunately not, or they would all be in collector's hands! The SL is one of the earliest air-cooled Lister engines, developed at the same time as the LD diesel. The LD was designed to have the same mounting centres and shaft height and diameter as the Lister D petrol engine. The SL is an LD with a bigger bore by memory, I haven't had time to dig the manual out. I think you have the option of a crankcase access plate so you could possibly get inside and undo the big ends and lift off the cylinder with piston and conrod. Spares are available, but by no means plentiful, especially in the USA. OK, while looking for something else, I have found the manual: 3-3/16" X 3-1/2" bore and stroke. 12.75hp @ 1800 rpm. 27.90 cu in per cylinder. 513 lbs(#) weight or 233 kg Manual is Book 353/865 that will be August 1965 publication. The book shows a crankcase inspection cover and the big ends are split level and horizontal. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Jul 15 15:47:28 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:47:28 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Coborn Engine - One for the Brits Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090716001811.01a58990@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi All, Lists are terribly quiet so I'll put this in. I found an air cooled Coborn engine about a year ago (British made - from memory similar type design to Wolseley, Wisconsin, Ronaldson & Tippet et. al.) In fact, it's the second one I found the - first is on my webpage here: (excuse the wrong spelling in this case) but this guy wanted too much moola for it. This one that I've found (and bought) will be collected for me by some friends in the next few weeks (no pictures yet). It's even attached to a water pump! ( I bought a Johnson Iron Horse in the same deal). Anyway, when I first did some research on it, the only mention I found was on a U.K. site - Peter Forbes, Roland Craven and Nick Holden were members (this from memory). The thread was started by a guy who had bought a bunch of literature which included a "Coborn" operators manual and he was wondering if it was worth keeping?? (This is all on backup "somewhere"!!!). (Googling for it tonight I found the thread but not on the original site). Although not a flywheel engine it's still quite unusual (rare?) and worth having. Do any of you guys (mentioned above) or anyone else remember who this was and do you know if he ever scanned the manual. I'd really like to get a copy or better still, buy the original from him - he did not seem to keen on keeping it! If I could get the original I would scan it and make it available on my website. Thanks, in advance, for any help. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From rotigel at me.com Wed Jul 15 18:25:02 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:25:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> Message-ID: <00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D@me.com> What's a facebook? Dave On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:12 AM, pjp08 at steamengine.com.au wrote: > Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... > > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf > > is me > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com Wed Jul 15 18:17:13 2009 From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:17:13 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Allen bros engine?????? Message-ID: Hi All, i would like to know what hp ratings allen bros engines were made in as i have located an engine i think could be an allen but it is only about 2-3hp,it also has a pedestal fuel tank but the rest looks like an allen,it has no markings and only one flywheel,thank in advance Dave _________________________________________________________________ Looking for a place to rent, share or buy this winter? Find your next place with Ninemsn?property http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Edomain%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Fs%5Fcid%3DFDMedia%3ANineMSN%5FHotmail%5FTagline&_t=774152450&_r=Domain_tagline&_m=EXT From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Wed Jul 15 18:35:48 2009 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:35:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za><50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D@me.com> Message-ID: <008701ca05b5$bf583950$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> I tried the facebook thing, and so far I have found utterly no use for it whatsoever. A couple SEL members are on Facebook but I don't think they wish to reveal themselves! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? > What's a facebook? > Dave > > On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:12 AM, pjp08 at steamengine.com.au wrote: > >> Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... >> >> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf >> >> is me >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 15 18:50:27 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D@me.com> Message-ID: <572817.14613.qm@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Buy em books Send um to skool what do they due??? Da eet da boocs. ? Dave,,, Follow the link he gave. --- On Wed, 7/15/09, David Rotigel wrote: From: David Rotigel Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 9:25 PM What's a facebook? ??? Dave On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:12 AM, pjp08 at steamengine.com.au wrote: > Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... > > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf > > is me > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Wed Jul 15 18:50:54 2009 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:50:54 EDT Subject: [SEL] on facebook? Message-ID: Rick the only thing I have ever heard about it the crooks pulling of you face and make fake IDS. Good Luck Kevin K In a message dated 7/15/2009 9:45:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com writes: I tried the facebook thing, and so far I have found utterly no use for it whatsoever. A couple SEL members are on Facebook but I don't think they wish to reveal themselves! Rick **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now. (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships/?ncid=emlweu slove00000001) From james.kangas at timken.com Wed Jul 15 18:59:07 2009 From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:59:07 -0400 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za><50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D@me.com> Message-ID: It's a social networking site. It's similar to Myspace but geared towards a more older audience. Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of David Rotigel Sent: Wed 7/15/2009 9:25 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? What's a facebook? Dave On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:12 AM, pjp08 at steamengine.com.au wrote: > Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... > > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf > > is me > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation From pwaugh at embarqmail.com Wed Jul 15 19:13:21 2009 From: pwaugh at embarqmail.com (Paul Waugh) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:13:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za><50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au><00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D@me.com> Message-ID: <8A4DBC8BD72044EC9FD148B055327449@PAULDESKTOP> Good, that leaves me out, cause I am only 69, and also have found no use for it ..maybe in the future when I get older. Paul - IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kangas, James G." To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? It's a social networking site. It's similar to Myspace but geared towards a more older audience. Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of David Rotigel Sent: Wed 7/15/2009 9:25 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? What's a facebook? Dave On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:12 AM, pjp08 at steamengine.com.au wrote: > Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... > > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf > > is me > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Wed Jul 15 19:35:47 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:35:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <572817.14613.qm@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <572817.14613.qm@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Alan, Thanks, but what's a "link?" Dave On Jul 15, 2009, at 9:50 PM, Alan wrote: > Buy em books > Send um to skool > what do they due??? > Da eet da boocs. > > Dave,,, Follow the link he gave. > > --- On Wed, 7/15/09, David Rotigel wrote: > > > From: David Rotigel > Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 9:25 PM > > > What's a facebook? > Dave > > On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:12 AM, pjp08 at steamengine.com.au wrote: > >> Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... >> >> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf >> >> is me >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Wed Jul 15 19:57:24 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:57:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D@me.com> Message-ID: <9E8F5470-232B-451E-BC8C-D00B31576357@me.com> Hi Jim, Is there, then, a geared and a gearless facebook? Dave PS, Is "social networking" something like talking to people? On Jul 15, 2009, at 9:59 PM, Kangas, James G. wrote: > It's a social networking site. It's similar to Myspace but geared > towards a more older audience. > Jim K. > > ________________________________ > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of David > Rotigel > Sent: Wed 7/15/2009 9:25 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? > > > > What's a facebook? > Dave > > On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:12 AM, pjp08 at steamengine.com.au wrote: > >> Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... >> >> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf >> >> is me >> >> Paul >> From rotigel at me.com Wed Jul 15 20:15:13 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:15:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Don't know what to say Arnie. I posted the announcement of the ATIS dinner and Charity Auction to BOTH lists about a month ago and have had THREE replies so far! Perhaps the 'event' has outlived it's usefulness and we should just forget about it. Dave PS, I had several people tell me at SIAM that they would be attending, but I should "know that" and, therefore, they didn't need respond to my request for an RSVP. That SURE as hell helps me get an idea as to how many we will have so that I can let the Back 40 know! On Jul 14, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Hey Dave, > > Whassup with Portland and the Thursday night dinner & Charity > Auction at the Back > Forty? It's not that far away, and I don't think I've seen anything > on the lists > about it. > > See ya, Arnie From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Jul 15 20:36:45 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:36:45 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Allen bros engine?????? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40456822-0411-4692-BB50-5DDE978D00FE@rustyiron.com> Pictures? I have two manuals on my web page that might help you. Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com On Jul 15, 2009, at 6:17 PM, David Nicolson wrote: > > Hi All, i would like to know what hp ratings allen bros engines were > made in as i have located an engine i think could be an allen but it > is only about 2-3hp,it also has a pedestal fuel tank but the rest > looks like an allen,it has no markings and only one flywheel,thank > in advance Dave From frappi at wcoil.com Wed Jul 15 22:02:47 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:02:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <9E8F5470-232B-451E-BC8C-D00B31576357@me.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D@me.com> <9E8F5470-232B-451E-BC8C-D00B31576357@me.com> Message-ID: <20090716050246.C5A7133C03D6@mail06.wcoil.com> Talk to people? Eww I'd rather text then get so personal, Disgusting. GRINNN Mark At 10:57 PM 7/15/2009, you wrote: >Hi Jim, Is there, then, a geared and a gearless facebook? > Dave >PS, Is "social networking" something like talking to people? > >On Jul 15, 2009, at 9:59 PM, Kangas, James G. wrote: > > > It's a social networking site. It's similar to Myspace but geared > > towards a more older audience. > > Jim K. > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of David > > Rotigel > > Sent: Wed 7/15/2009 9:25 PM > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? > >> What's a facebook? > > Dave > >> On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:12 AM, pjp08 at steamengine.com.au wrote: > >>> Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... > >>> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf > >>> is me > >>> Paul > >> Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 USA 419.358.5206 From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jul 15 23:20:29 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:20:29 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090716062021.9A13B338172@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au> Best count us in Dave, 3 x spots as I can't see me cooking much that night! The lack of competition with the auction could mean we are in for some bargains! (thats if the numbers stay the same) Russ At 01:15 PM 16/07/2009, you wrote: >Don't know what to say Arnie. I posted the announcement of the ATIS >dinner and Charity Auction to BOTH lists about a month ago and have >had THREE replies so far! Perhaps the 'event' has outlived it's >usefulness and we should just forget about it. > Dave >PS, I had several people tell me at SIAM that they would be attending, >but I should "know that" and, therefore, they didn't need respond to >my request for an RSVP. That SURE as hell helps me get an idea >as to >how many we will have so that I can let the Back 40 know! > >On Jul 14, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > > > Hey Dave, > > > > Whassup with Portland and the Thursday night dinner & Charity > > Auction at the Back > > Forty? It's not that far away, and I don't think I've seen anything > > on the lists > > about it. > > > > See ya, Arnie > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Thu Jul 16 01:37:21 2009 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:37:21 +1000 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <008701ca05b5$bf583950$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za><50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D@me.com> <008701ca05b5$bf583950$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <4A5EE6C1.7050808@steamengine.com.au> I've found about 40 so far. Tod Engine Foundation wrote: > I tried the facebook thing, and so far I have found utterly no use for it > whatsoever. A couple SEL members are on Facebook but I don't think they > wish to reveal themselves! > > Rick > > From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Thu Jul 16 01:40:45 2009 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:40:45 +1000 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? - to Kevin K In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> Hi Kevin, this could happen from your SEL postings too - who says everyone here is an engine person. The trick is to give only the minimum information that someone could already know from say the whitepages phonebook (or its electronic equivalent). Anyone who posts personal or secret information publicly is simply a fool waiting to be conned. Bring on the etheopians with their surplus bank balances :). I probably have more information about myself on www.steamengine.com.au than I do on facebook. I agree that facebook is really a marketing machine - but that is easy - so they target ads at you. So what? You don't have to look at them. No-one makes you. I'm not an evangalist by any means and for a long time resisted joining for much the same reason you give - then I realised it was entirely up to me just how much I tell them. Regards Paul BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote: > Rick the only thing I have ever heard about it the crooks pulling of you > face and make fake IDS. > Good Luck > Kevin K > > > From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Jul 16 06:28:10 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:28:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] on facebook? - to Kevin K - OT In-Reply-To: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> References: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: <9f5217b83084aba22b8bd06066149820.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> What cracks me up about FaceBook are the number of people (like my daughters) who have iPhones (or equivalent) and are 'FaceBook addicted', posting the minutia of their daily lives on a minute-by-minute basis (and responding to their friend's similiar posts). Add to that the games and quizzes, etc. that FaceBook offers and the 'heavy users' can spend their entire waking lives accomplishing nothing, but posting much. Some get so involved that they just unthinkingly disclose too much. "I'm going to be away for a month on holiday." "We just haven't decided on how to safely store Bobbie's gold coin collection, so it's STILL sitting on the kitchen table! That really makes me nervous cos it's worth MILLIONS." "Do you have our latest address; it's 69 Dumbo Lane, in LaLa Land." "Did I tell you how much trouble we had finding a kennel to board our two pit bulls for our holiday trip?" "I'm SOOO excited, we finally leave TOMORROW! A whole month out of the country!" You get the idea... See ya, Arnie On Thu, July 16, 2009 4:40 am, Paul Pavlinovich wrote: > Hi Kevin, this could happen from your SEL postings too - who says > everyone here is an engine person. The trick is to give only the minimum > information that someone could already know from say the whitepages > phonebook (or its electronic equivalent). > > Anyone who posts personal or secret information publicly is simply a > fool waiting to be conned. Bring on the etheopians with their surplus > bank balances :). From rotigel at me.com Thu Jul 16 07:57:28 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:57:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? - to Kevin K - OT In-Reply-To: <9f5217b83084aba22b8bd06066149820.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> <9f5217b83084aba22b8bd06066149820.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <429031C2-B4B4-4B23-AA23-168763471650@me.com> On Jul 16, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > "I'm going to > be away for a month on holiday." "We just haven't decided on how to > safely store > Bobbie's gold coin collection, so it's STILL sitting on the kitchen > table! That > really makes me nervous cos it's worth MILLIONS." "Do you have our > latest address; > it's 69 Dumbo Lane, in LaLa Land." "Did I tell you how much trouble > we had finding > a kennel to board our two pit bulls for our holiday trip?" "I'm > SOOO excited, we > finally leave TOMORROW! A whole month out of the country!" > > You get the idea... > > See ya, Arnie Hi Arnie, I knew you were going to the beach sometime later this summer, but I thought you had someone coming in to feed the pit bulls. My offer to do so is still open! Dave From steve_royster at hotmail.com Thu Jul 16 07:55:13 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:55:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction In-Reply-To: <20090716062021.9A13B338172@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au> References: <20090716062021.9A13B338172@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: Hi Dave, I didn't see the info about the auction either, but we need 3 spots as well. Thanks Steve > > > > >how many we will have so that I can let the Back 40 know! > > > >On Jul 14, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > > > > > Hey Dave, > > > > > > Whassup with Portland and the Thursday night dinner & Charity > > > Auction at the Back > > > Forty? It's not that far away, and I don't think I've seen anything > > > on the lists > > > about it. > > > > > > See ya, Arnie > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that?s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Jul 16 09:04:08 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:04:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D@me.com> Message-ID: Dave: It's like, when you - you know, dude, like insult someone's Maytag fogger a bit too much and they smash you in the face with a phone book. You know - like chill, man. Wake up and smell the smoke! Cool. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of David > Rotigel > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 08:25 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? > > > What's a facebook? > Dave From rbackus at ogdenpubs.com Thu Jul 16 10:09:15 2009 From: rbackus at ogdenpubs.com (Richard Backus) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:09:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 64, Issue 16 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Dave, count us for 2. Not sure yet if I'll be there, but Christian and Terri will be. Richard/GEM Message: 12 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:15:13 -0400 From: David Rotigel Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction To: The SEL email discussion list Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Don't know what to say Arnie. I posted the announcement of the ATIS dinner and Charity Auction to BOTH lists about a month ago and have had THREE replies so far! Perhaps the 'event' has outlived it's usefulness and we should just forget about it. Dave PS, I had several people tell me at SIAM that they would be attending, but I should "know that" and, therefore, they didn't need respond to my request for an RSVP. That SURE as hell helps me get an idea as to how many we will have so that I can let the Back 40 know! From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Jul 16 11:40:30 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:40:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <79dc824f63488f592e6861210100892f.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> FaceBook is like a Maytag? Or are you saying that a Maytag is like FaceBook? On Thu, July 16, 2009 12:04 pm, Elden DuRand wrote: > It's like, when you - you know, dude, like insult someone's Maytag fogger a > bit too much and they smash you in the face with a phone book. > You know - like chill, man. Wake up and smell the smoke! > Cool. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> What's a facebook? >> Dave From james.kangas at timken.com Thu Jul 16 12:00:11 2009 From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:00:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za><50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au><00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D@me.com> <9E8F5470-232B-451E-BC8C-D00B31576357@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Dave, Yes there is a geared and gearless facebook,but to belong to the gearless you need to be Olds( bad pun I know). Yes, social networking is how the Net generation talk to each other. To them the concept of actually speaking to a person, especially face to face, is quite foreign or even disturbing Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of David Rotigel Sent: Wed 7/15/2009 10:57 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? Hi Jim, Is there, then, a geared and a gearless facebook? Dave PS, Is "social networking" something like talking to people? On Jul 15, 2009, at 9:59 PM, Kangas, James G. wrote: > It's a social networking site. It's similar to Myspace but geared > towards a more older audience. > Jim K. > > ________________________________ > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of David > Rotigel > Sent: Wed 7/15/2009 9:25 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? > > > > What's a facebook? > Dave > > On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:12 AM, pjp08 at steamengine.com.au wrote: > >> Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... >> >> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf >> >> is me >> >> Paul >> _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Jul 16 12:32:24 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:32:24 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 64, Issue 16 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090716212722.0224b380@mail.atech.co.za> At 06:00 PM 16/07/2009, you wrote: >Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? >To: The SEL email discussion list >Message-ID: <00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D at me.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > >What's a facebook? > Dave Hi Dave, It's the latest (??) thing on "Social Networking" - Don't ask what that is as I do not have a clue but if you do subscribe to it you can rest assured that your Spam email box will fill up a lot faster. Jerry From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Jul 16 12:44:38 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:44:38 +0200 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090716213911.02278b00@mail.atech.co.za> >From: "Elden DuRand" >Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Dave: >It's like, when you - you know, dude, like insult someone's Maytag fogger >a bit too much and they smash you in the face with a phone book. You know >- like chill, man. Wake up and smell the smoke! >Cool. >Take care - Elden Elden, Excellent! Like Wow, you said it like it are! Loved your reply dude. Not a place for real people or engine men. Us Old Farts should just stick to SEL and "Oldengine". Jerry From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Jul 16 13:08:54 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction In-Reply-To: References: <20090716062021.9A13B338172@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <80255443cc8b9d9add07576f645b5b6d.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hey Steve, Does this mean that Dawn is FINALLY gonna come to Portland? 8-)) Or has Mike talked Ann into coming? Or is he bringing Sonja instead? Enguiring minds and all that.... See ya, Arnie On Thu, July 16, 2009 10:55 am, Steve Royster wrote: > > Hi Dave, I didn't see the info about the auction either, but we need 3 spots as > well. Thanks Steve From steve_royster at hotmail.com Thu Jul 16 13:17:10 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:17:10 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction In-Reply-To: <80255443cc8b9d9add07576f645b5b6d.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <20090716062021.9A13B338172@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au> <80255443cc8b9d9add07576f645b5b6d.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Arnie, I think it will be a cold day in the hot place when Dawn or Ann come to Portland! The third seat will be Bill Bird, our traveling companion this time. Sonja who??? > Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:08:54 -0400 > From: fero_ah at city-net.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction > > Hey Steve, > > Does this mean that Dawn is FINALLY gonna come to Portland? 8-)) > Or has Mike talked Ann into coming? Or is he bringing Sonja instead? > > Enguiring minds and all that.... > > See ya, Arnie > > On Thu, July 16, 2009 10:55 am, Steve Royster wrote: > > > > Hi Dave, I didn't see the info about the auction either, but we need 3 spots as > > well. Thanks Steve > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009 From rotigel at me.com Thu Jul 16 13:39:33 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:39:33 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction In-Reply-To: <20090716062021.9A13B338172@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au> References: <20090716062021.9A13B338172@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <3DC28537-AF51-4A99-A436-B7CF1B62877C@me.com> Got you down for 3 Russ. Thanks! Dave On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:20 AM, Russell Gilbert wrote: > Best count us in Dave, 3 x spots as I can't see me cooking much > that night! > The lack of competition with the auction could mean we are in for > some bargains! (thats if the numbers stay the same) > Russ > > > At 01:15 PM 16/07/2009, you wrote: >> Don't know what to say Arnie. I posted the announcement of the ATIS >> dinner and Charity Auction to BOTH lists about a month ago and have >> had THREE replies so far! Perhaps the 'event' has outlived it's >> usefulness and we should just forget about it. >> Dave >> PS, I had several people tell me at SIAM that they would be >> attending, >> but I should "know that" and, therefore, they didn't need respond to >> my request for an RSVP. That SURE as hell helps me get an idea >> as to >> how many we will have so that I can let the Back 40 know! >> >> On Jul 14, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: >> >>> Hey Dave, >>> >>> Whassup with Portland and the Thursday night dinner & Charity >>> Auction at the Back >>> Forty? It's not that far away, and I don't think I've seen anything >>> on the lists >>> about it. >>> >>> See ya, Arnie >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Thu Jul 16 13:42:38 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:42:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 64, Issue 16 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <68CE393E-F05D-49C1-A69F-9008AAA7C0DD@me.com> Hi Richard, Got you down. We are now up to 16 who will be attending! Dave On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:09 PM, Richard Backus wrote: > Hey Dave, count us for 2. Not sure yet if I'll be there, but Christian > and Terri will be. > > Richard/GEM > > Message: 12 > Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:15:13 -0400 > From: David Rotigel > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction > To: The SEL email discussion list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Don't know what to say Arnie. I posted the announcement of the ATIS > dinner and Charity Auction to BOTH lists about a month ago and have > had THREE replies so far! Perhaps the 'event' has outlived it's > usefulness and we should just forget about it. > Dave > PS, I had several people tell me at SIAM that they would be attending, > but I should "know that" and, therefore, they didn't need respond to > my request for an RSVP. That SURE as hell helps me get an idea as > to > how many we will have so that I can let the Back 40 know! From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Jul 16 13:52:09 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:52:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction In-Reply-To: References: <20090716062021.9A13B338172@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au> <80255443cc8b9d9add07576f645b5b6d.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <363ba970e58f1ca479b49062787c8bc2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> heh-heh-heh Wasn't that Mike's line (Sonja who???) when Ann heard about his new dive buddy. 8->>> See ya, Arnie PS - Good news that Bill is coming along. Are ya gonna put one of his engines on the trailer? On Thu, July 16, 2009 4:17 pm, Steve Royster wrote: > > Arnie, I think it will be a cold day in the hot place when Dawn or Ann come to > Portland! The third seat will be Bill Bird, our traveling companion this time. > Sonja who??? From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Jul 16 14:36:25 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:36:25 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction References: <20090716062021.9A13B338172@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <004901ca065d$78a847e0$83674b47@mikecomp> I already replied for us Steve. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction Hi Dave, I didn't see the info about the auction either, but we need 3 spots as well. Thanks Steve > > > > >how many we will have so that I can let the Back 40 know! > > > >On Jul 14, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > > > > > Hey Dave, > > > > > > Whassup with Portland and the Thursday night dinner & Charity > > > Auction at the Back > > > Forty? It's not that far away, and I don't think I've seen anything > > > on the lists > > > about it. > > > > > > See ya, Arnie > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that?s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Jul 16 14:41:17 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:41:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction References: <20090716062021.9A13B338172@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au> <80255443cc8b9d9add07576f645b5b6d.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <00a001ca065e$26d55c90$83674b47@mikecomp> Of course Dawn, Ann and Sonja won't be at Portland, Missy will be there!!!!!! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Fero" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction > Hey Steve, > > Does this mean that Dawn is FINALLY gonna come to Portland? 8-)) > Or has Mike talked Ann into coming? Or is he bringing Sonja instead? > > Enguiring minds and all that.... > > See ya, Arnie > > On Thu, July 16, 2009 10:55 am, Steve Royster wrote: >> >> Hi Dave, I didn't see the info about the auction either, but we need 3 >> spots as >> well. Thanks Steve > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Jul 16 16:15:18 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:15:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090716213911.02278b00@mail.atech.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: Righteous, dude! Ehhhh....... OLD dude! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jerry Evans > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 02:45 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? > > > > >From: "Elden DuRand" > >Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? > >To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > >Dave: > >It's like, when you - you know, dude, like > insult someone's Maytag fogger > >a bit too much and they smash you in the face > with a phone book. You know > >- like chill, man. Wake up and smell the smoke! > >Cool. > >Take care - Elden > > Elden, > Excellent! Like Wow, you said it like > it are! Loved your reply dude. > Not a place for real people or engine men. > Us Old Farts should just stick to SEL > and "Oldengine". > Jerry From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Jul 16 16:19:54 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:19:54 -0500 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <79dc824f63488f592e6861210100892f.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Arnie: Hey, man - like whatever! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Arnie Fero > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 01:41 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? > > > FaceBook is like a Maytag? Or are you saying that > a Maytag is like FaceBook? > > On Thu, July 16, 2009 12:04 pm, Elden DuRand wrote: > > It's like, when you - you know, dude, like > insult someone's Maytag fogger a > > bit too much and they smash you in the face > with a phone book. > > You know - like chill, man. Wake up and smell the smoke! > > Cool. From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Thu Jul 16 17:17:14 2009 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:17:14 EDT Subject: [SEL] on facebook? - to Kevin K - OT Message-ID: Arnie have a great trip. KK In a message dated 7/16/2009 9:26:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, fero_ah at city-net.com writes: What cracks me up about FaceBook are the number of people (like my daughters) who have iPhones (or equivalent) and are 'FaceBook addicted', posting the minutia of their daily lives on a minute-by-minute basis (and responding to their friend's similiar posts). Add to that the games and quizzes, etc. that FaceBook offers and the 'heavy users' can spend their entire waking lives accomplishing nothing, but posting much. Some get so involved that they just unthinkingly disclose too much. "I'm going to be away for a month on holiday." "We just haven't decided on how to safely store Bobbie's gold coin collection, so it's STILL sitting on the kitchen table! That really makes me nervous cos it's worth MILLIONS." "Do you have our latest address; it's 69 Dumbo Lane, in LaLa Land." "Did I tell you how much trouble we had finding a kennel to board our two pit bulls for our holiday trip?" "I'm SOOO excited, we finally leave TOMORROW! A whole month out of the country!" You get the idea... See ya, Arnie **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now. (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships/?ncid=emlweu slove00000001) From toadhill at aeroinc.net Fri Jul 17 14:13:42 2009 From: toadhill at aeroinc.net (Joe&Jewel Maurer) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:13:42 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Charity Auction Message-ID: <5676F95A23194726AA7B6B23204F247E@joe5599c86d812> Don't know what to say Arnie. I posted the announcement of the ATIS dinner and Charity Auction to BOTH lists about a month ago and have had THREE replies so far! Perhaps the 'event' has outlived it's usefulness and we should just forget about it. Dave PS, I had several people tell me at SIAM that they would be attending, but I should "know that" and, therefore, they didn't need respond to my request for an RSVP. That SURE as hell helps me get an idea as to how many we will have so that I can let the Back 40 know! Dave, Sorry about the delay. Please put me down for two. Joe Maurer From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Fri Jul 17 17:15:34 2009 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:15:34 +1000 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? - to Kevin K - OT In-Reply-To: <9f5217b83084aba22b8bd06066149820.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> <9f5217b83084aba22b8bd06066149820.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <4A611426.4060705@steamengine.com.au> Absolutely share your amazement Arnie, but it isn't new to facebook. It used to happen on the old dial up bulliten boards and internal chat systems. A friend of mine built the first interactive chat system that I ever knew about long before the web existed on a CDC Cyber 970 mainframe. This thing kept about 40% of the population of my and interconnected universities amused and it was no different then. People like to talk and they like to talk about themselves. Some people pause to listen on occasion - that is conversation. Those that never pause to listen are those most vulnerable to facebook. Is it different on this list? It is a public forum - there are hundreds of subscribers - do you know everyone here? No? Neither do I. There are people who read but never post. They might be innocents or they might have other motives. How many times have you told what you consider to be your collection or friends that you're going to Portland, or Baraboo, or even the big overseas trips. How many times have I done it? Plenty is the answer because we like to think that we're safe here. Regards Paul Arnie Fero wrote: > What cracks me up about FaceBook are the number of people (like my daughters) who > have iPhones (or equivalent) and are 'FaceBook addicted', posting the minutia of > their daily lives on a minute-by-minute basis (and responding to their friend's > similiar posts). Add to that the games and quizzes, etc. that FaceBook offers and > the 'heavy users' can spend their entire waking lives accomplishing nothing, but > posting much. > > Some get so involved that they just unthinkingly disclose too much. "I'm going to > be away for a month on holiday." "We just haven't decided on how to safely store > Bobbie's gold coin collection, so it's STILL sitting on the kitchen table! That > really makes me nervous cos it's worth MILLIONS." "Do you have our latest address; > it's 69 Dumbo Lane, in LaLa Land." "Did I tell you how much trouble we had finding > a kennel to board our two pit bulls for our holiday trip?" "I'm SOOO excited, we > finally leave TOMORROW! A whole month out of the country!" > > You get the idea... > > See ya, Arnie > > On Thu, July 16, 2009 4:40 am, Paul Pavlinovich wrote: > >> Hi Kevin, this could happen from your SEL postings too - who says >> everyone here is an engine person. The trick is to give only the minimum >> information that someone could already know from say the whitepages >> phonebook (or its electronic equivalent). >> >> Anyone who posts personal or secret information publicly is simply a >> fool waiting to be conned. Bring on the etheopians with their surplus >> bank balances :). >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From kimmell at verizon.net Fri Jul 17 17:43:15 2009 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:43:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> References: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: <0KMY004F4CO2V610@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> You can change the account settings so that your profile can only be viewed by your friends. Even so, I still don't put a whole lot of info on it. Just a few pics of the family and my various projects. The only reason I joined is because it's a nice convenient way to share pictures and stay in touch with your friends and family. Facebook has put me back in touch with at least a dozen of my old friends from school that I hadn't talked to in years. Of course, a lot of the older people won't take to it like the younger generation will. But then again, I remember back when the SEL was a new-fangled contraption to a lot of people. Nowadays it would be considered an archaic technology by most. A lot changes in only 10-15 years... -Tony At 03:40 AM 7/16/2009, you wrote: >Hi Kevin, this could happen from your SEL postings too - who says >everyone here is an engine person. The trick is to give only the minimum >information that someone could already know from say the whitepages >phonebook (or its electronic equivalent). > >Anyone who posts personal or secret information publicly is simply a >fool waiting to be conned. Bring on the etheopians with their surplus >bank balances :). > >I probably have more information about myself on www.steamengine.com.au >than I do on facebook. > >I agree that facebook is really a marketing machine - but that is easy - >so they target ads at you. So what? You don't have to look at them. >No-one makes you. > >I'm not an evangalist by any means and for a long time resisted joining >for much the same reason you give - then I realised it was entirely up >to me just how much I tell them. > >Regards >Paul From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Jul 17 18:06:34 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:06:34 -0700 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <0KMY004F4CO2V610@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> References: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> <0KMY004F4CO2V610@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <129BA5E2-74A6-4E79-B24F-B4E09305478C@rustyiron.com> On Jul 17, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Tony & Jackie wrote: > > Of course, a lot of the older people won't take to it Hi, Tony. They'll catch on as soon as they realize that Facebook's directed marketing will offer them discounts on plaid shorts, free samples of Metamucil and extended hours for the Early Bird Special at Denny's. [8-D From kimmell at verizon.net Fri Jul 17 18:30:18 2009 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:30:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <129BA5E2-74A6-4E79-B24F-B4E09305478C@rustyiron.com> References: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> <0KMY004F4CO2V610@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> <129BA5E2-74A6-4E79-B24F-B4E09305478C@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <0KMY00ER4EUG1610@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> Dude... 25% off select Medline incontinence shorts and Sunmaid Prunes! Score! At 08:06 PM 7/17/2009, you wrote: >Hi, Tony. They'll catch on as soon as they realize that Facebook's >directed marketing will offer them discounts on plaid shorts, free >samples of Metamucil and extended hours for the Early Bird Special at >Denny's. From enginepaul at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 22:10:52 2009 From: enginepaul at gmail.com (P. Johns) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:10:52 -0700 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <129BA5E2-74A6-4E79-B24F-B4E09305478C@rustyiron.com> References: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> <0KMY004F4CO2V610@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> <129BA5E2-74A6-4E79-B24F-B4E09305478C@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <8d3c36fb0907172210v4d494fe7ka09084b651a65c3e@mail.gmail.com> Rob: That's just rude. True. But still rude. > " Hi, Tony. They'll catch on as soon as they realize that Facebook's > directed marketing will offer them discounts on plaid shorts, free > samples of Metamucil and extended hours for the Early Bird Special at > Denny's. " > > I used facebook once to get a picture of a tenant that I was evicting to give to the process server; so it was useful to me. Paul in California From rotigel at me.com Sat Jul 18 16:38:55 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:38:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Charity Auction In-Reply-To: <5676F95A23194726AA7B6B23204F247E@joe5599c86d812> References: <5676F95A23194726AA7B6B23204F247E@joe5599c86d812> Message-ID: <848CA645-4548-4196-AAE3-E06A31451EA9@me.com> > Sorry about the delay. Please put me down for two. > > Joe Maurer Got you down for two Joe! Dave From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Sat Jul 18 22:10:51 2009 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:10:51 -0500 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? Message-ID: "Hi, Tony. They'll catch on as soon as they realize that Facebook's directed marketing will offer them discounts on plaid shorts, free samples of Metamucil and extended hours for the Early Bird Special at Denny's." Rob will one day realize that his choices are down to aging or not, and it may not be so funny. Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Store, access, and share your photos. See how. http://windowslive.com/Online/SkyDrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_SD_photos_072009 From rob at rustyiron.com Sat Jul 18 22:43:52 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:43:52 -0700 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7DD0397D-37C9-4E60-984F-9DE8DDA181BA@rustyiron.com> On Jul 18, 2009, at 10:10 PM, Bruce Younger wrote: > > Rob will one day realize that his choices are down to aging or not, > and it may not be so funny. > > Bruce Younger > > 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 If the day comes when I can no longer laugh, I hope that is the day I cease aging. To the curmudgeons who are quite vocal in their disdain for anything that has been invented since 1955, you amuse me a little. But more so, I'm sad for you... but not too sad, because that would bring me down. And Bruce, I apologize for my insensitive remark about plaid shorts. It seems that Target, REI, and Walmart all offer extensive collections of Plaid Shorts modeled by ripped young studs. So perhaps it is me who is tragically unhip. You can hold your head high, as you walk down he street in your fancy plaid shorts, white socks and sandals. Me? I'll continue to shuffle around in my raggedy Earth tones. Party on, dude. Rob From russell at ncable.com.au Sun Jul 19 16:00:38 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:00:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] My Campbell on youtube In-Reply-To: <848CA645-4548-4196-AAE3-E06A31451EA9@me.com> References: <5676F95A23194726AA7B6B23204F247E@joe5599c86d812> <848CA645-4548-4196-AAE3-E06A31451EA9@me.com> Message-ID: <20090719230038.B7F1E298051@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> For them who may interested my Campbell is now on youtube thanx to James Payne. I had a visit from a couple on engine nuts yesturday who are better at the digital age than myself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJNozFRa50c We had a good time for a few hours starting up many engines. A good way to spend a Sunday afternoon. regards Russell From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jul 19 18:39:58 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:39:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] on facebook? - to Kevin K - OT In-Reply-To: <4A611426.4060705@steamengine.com.au> References: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> <9f5217b83084aba22b8bd06066149820.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <4A611426.4060705@steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: Not to worry Paul. This is America not Oz. The heavily armed guard is still at home with instructions to shoot to kill and to keep firing until the weapons stop making noise. 8-)) See ya, Arnie On Fri, July 17, 2009 8:15 pm, Paul Pavlinovich wrote: > Is it different on this list? It is a public forum - there are hundreds > of subscribers - do you know everyone here? No? Neither do I. There are > people who read but never post. They might be innocents or they might > have other motives. How many times have you told what you consider to be > your collection or friends that you're going to Portland, or Baraboo, or > even the big overseas trips. How many times have I done it? Plenty is > the answer because we like to think that we're safe here. From rotigel at me.com Sun Jul 19 21:42:09 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:42:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road In-Reply-To: <20090701225008.93D3E3181D7@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> References: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <1D2AA3BA-7C0B-4127-ABFC-93655EFD95A3@me.com> <20090701114035.90F23FC18A@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> <41E77DF9-B783-4445-99A1-D9CE143B8332@rustyiron.com> <20090701225008.93D3E3181D7@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <18C3E1FB-2B38-4C93-9DAD-D3CF4382B111@me.com> On Jul 1, 2009, at 6:50 PM, Russell Gilbert wrote: > > Mate I was thinking I will have to find some place to go (like Nasty > Daves!) > and get dressed in some war paint, drive down the road in his red > truck and have some photo's of us having fun with a makeshift drive > by! Imagin the mileage I can get with some happy snaps back home then. > Russ All that has been arranged! We will have 3 (or 4 AR's and perhaps 2 SK as well here) Additionally there will be LOTS of hand guns for your use, Several .22's,. a .32, 3 or 4 .308's, several 9mm's and several . 44's, and a 1911 .45. Arnie is trying to hurry up his gunsmith so that he will have that FULLY AUTO by the time you are here. (There are also a few more in the gun safe that you might find to be fun,.) Earl says HIS FULLY AR) will be ready LONG BEFORE THAT! Currently we are practising on rabbits and the neighbors cats. Groundogs should be plentiful by the time you and your two daughters get here! Dave PS, Kerry will SHIT! PPS, ARNIE typed that first PS! PPPS, Did you know that the more time you drive over a cat, the FLATTER it gets? PPPPS, Did you know that's it's only KINKY THE FIRST TIME? PPPPPS, Damn, I LOVE to kill things! From plowe at exemail.com.au Mon Jul 20 05:51:12 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:51:12 +1000 Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Letters_=AD_Who_Built_This_Engine=3F?= Message-ID: <3F61E1676A2C486CB5A8A0DCAEE1E363@peterlowe> Hi All Anyone live near or know this guy. Vernon Hansmeier 3365 James Ave. Forest City, IA 50436 (641) 565-3244 If so can you contact him and tell him the engine in the link below is a Root & Vandervorrt and pass on my details to him please so he can contact me. http://www.farmcollector.com/letters/who-built-this-engine.aspx Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Jul 20 08:35:16 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:35:16 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road In-Reply-To: <18C3E1FB-2B38-4C93-9DAD-D3CF4382B111@me.com> Message-ID: Dave: You are a SICK puppy! Can I come along? :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of David > Rotigel > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 11:42 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 20 16:57:18 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <791563.99343.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> No, He is a terrible waster of good food. Them there cat should be on everyones table. 1,331,910,000 Chinese can't all be wrong. ? Alan in Michigan --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Elden DuRand wrote: From: Elden DuRand Subject: Re: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 11:35 AM Dave: You are a SICK puppy! Can I come along????:-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >? Behalf Of David > Rotigel > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 11:42 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Jul 20 18:07:49 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:07:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Findlay Show July 30-31 Aug 1&2 In-Reply-To: <18C3E1FB-2B38-4C93-9DAD-D3CF4382B111@me.com> References: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <1D2AA3BA-7C0B-4127-ABFC-93655EFD95A3@me.com> <20090701114035.90F23FC18A@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> <41E77DF9-B783-4445-99A1-D9CE143B8332@rustyiron.com> <20090701225008.93D3E3181D7@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <18C3E1FB-2B38-4C93-9DAD-D3CF4382B111@me.com> Message-ID: <20090721010747.06CED76B831B@mail07.wcoil.com> Hi All, Findlay show is fast approaching, I am looking forward to seeing everyone there again. Mark Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 USA 419.358.5206 From swork at endacomm.com Mon Jul 20 22:59:00 2009 From: swork at endacomm.com (S. Work) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:59:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road References: <791563.99343.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3BB779C20E7F4B8290F123F2F0BC6F40@ecsserverwebs> < WANA BET ? > No, He is a terrible waster of good food. Them there cat should be on everyones table. 1,331,910,000 Chinese can't all be wrong. Alan in Michigan -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.20/2250 - Release Date: 07/20/09 06:16:00 From rdhaskell at juno.com Tue Jul 21 12:09:10 2009 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:09:10 -0700 Subject: [SEL] An engine for Arnie Message-ID: <20090721.120911.2572.1.rdhaskell@juno.com> http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php/product/24831/cat/all Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Get your dream car or truck. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLa8vEPHwHEBNmPbHQoPOCqhFdIsbfx4bwCczKqImxR3BvhYS36gw/ From rotigel at me.com Tue Jul 21 12:44:20 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:44:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] An engine for Arnie In-Reply-To: <20090721.120911.2572.1.rdhaskell@juno.com> References: <20090721.120911.2572.1.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <148EC691-3D11-4D22-B119-D903858F81D9@me.com> Hi Ron, How did you know that Arnie likes a "separate piece?" Dave On Jul 21, 2009, at 3:09 PM, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote: > http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php/product/24831/cat/all > > Ron Haskell From George_Best at adp.com Tue Jul 21 12:30:17 2009 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:30:17 -0500 Subject: [SEL] An engine for Arnie In-Reply-To: <20090721.120911.2572.1.rdhaskell@juno.com> References: <20090721.120911.2572.1.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40A6C619F43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Interesting that the photographer thought it was more important to show the stand the engine was sitting on rather than showing the top of the engine that is for sale. ;-) George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rdhaskell at juno.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:09 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] An engine for Arnie http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php/product/24831/cat/all Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Get your dream car or truck. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLa8vEPHwHEBNmPbHQoPOCqhFdIsbfx4bwCczKqImxR3BvhYS36gw/ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From obise at moscow.com Tue Jul 21 12:59:46 2009 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:59:46 -0700 Subject: [SEL] An engine for Arnie In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40A6C619F43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <20090721195956.83272678BFC@secure.fsr.com> That sort of thing happens often. Have you ever noticed the propensity for people pictures to be cut off at the ankles, but the and top half of the photo is blue sky. Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:30 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] An engine for Arnie Interesting that the photographer thought it was more important to show the stand the engine was sitting on rather than showing the top of the engine that is for sale. ;-) George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rdhaskell at juno.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:09 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] An engine for Arnie http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php/product/24831/cat/all Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 21 16:04:32 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] An engine for Arnie In-Reply-To: <20090721195956.83272678BFC@secure.fsr.com> Message-ID: <29915.52904.qm@web37303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> No, if my sweet mother took the picture then the feet would be seen. The heads would all be cut off. ? Alan in Michigan --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Orrin B Iseminger wrote: From: Orrin B Iseminger Subject: Re: [SEL] An engine for Arnie To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 3:59 PM That sort of thing happens often.? Have you ever noticed the propensity for people pictures to be cut off at the ankles, but the and top half of the photo is blue sky. ??? Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects.? So little time.??? -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:30 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] An engine for Arnie Interesting that the photographer thought it was more important to show the stand the engine was sitting on rather than showing the top of the engine that is for sale. ;-) George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rdhaskell at juno.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:09 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] An engine for Arnie http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php/product/24831/cat/all Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From tchristoff at earthlink.net Tue Jul 21 16:22:58 2009 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:22:58 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [SEL] Charity Auction Message-ID: <10423458.1248218579134.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Put me down for one Dave. Tim Christoff -----Original Message----- >From: David Rotigel >Sent: Jul 18, 2009 4:38 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] Charity Auction > >> Sorry about the delay. Please put me down for two. >> >> Joe Maurer > >Got you down for two Joe! > Dave >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 21 17:48:10 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? Message-ID: <715912.25724.qm@web37303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Howdy, Has anyone been to this guy's show? http://www.edervillenc.com/ ? Alan in Michigan From mr at carolina.rr.com Tue Jul 21 18:08:56 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:08:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? References: <715912.25724.qm@web37303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002a01ca0a68$fc88a2d0$83674b47@mikecomp> Never heard of it. Might be interesting! Mike in NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:48 PM Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? Howdy, Has anyone been to this guy's show? http://www.edervillenc.com/ Alan in Michigan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bgrimley at bellsouth.net Tue Jul 21 18:14:48 2009 From: bgrimley at bellsouth.net (Bill Grimley) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? Message-ID: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Well it strikes me as unbelievable.? Never have seen so much stuff all in one place, but I never went to Oscar's.? Must be about 75-100 steam tractors, at least 500 gas tractors, most all of it running and under sheds. Lots of the bigger old big tractors. Plus many other related things.? Saw Bob Lefever there last November and think he was in shock also. Haven't seen any dates for an open house this year; might be first weekend in November. --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Alan wrote: From: Alan Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 8:48 PM Howdy, Has anyone been to this guy's show? http://www.edervillenc.com/ ? Alan in Michigan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Jul 21 19:18:45 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:18:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Findlay Show July 30-31 Aug 1&2 In-Reply-To: <20090721010747.06CED76B831B@mail07.wcoil.com> References: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <1D2AA3BA-7C0B-4127-ABFC-93655EFD95A3@me.com> <20090701114035.90F23FC18A@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> <41E77DF9-B783-4445-99A1-D9CE143B8332@rustyiron.com> <20090701225008.93D3E3181D7@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <18C3E1FB-2B38-4C93-9DAD-D3CF4382B111@me.com> <20090721010747.06CED76B831B@mail07.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <01da80fa8726bff6a45116c1cd3d9ea7.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Folks, If you've never been the the Findlay show, you're really missing a great show. It's one of my favorites. See ya, Arnie PS - Mark off the usual riverfront property in the Low Rent District for Dave & I. On Mon, July 20, 2009 9:07 pm, Mark Shulaw wrote: > Hi All, Findlay show is fast approaching, I am looking forward to > seeing everyone there again. Mark > > > > > > Mark & Christine Shulaw > Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 > USA > 419.358.5206 > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue Jul 21 19:16:38 2009 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:16:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? In-Reply-To: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <821B48D91EFD4F7283C8E06A02A95D9A@DBTOA000> Not sure when the show is this year but I chatted with Ken at Denton and he invited me down. Sadly I didn't write down the date. I've chatted with several folks who have been there and like Bill, they were very impressed. Ken has amassed a tremendous collection. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bill Grimley Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:15 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] North Carolina Show? Well it strikes me as unbelievable.? Never have seen so much stuff all in one place, but I never went to Oscar's.? Must be about 75-100 steam tractors, at least 500 gas tractors, most all of it running and under sheds. Lots of the bigger old big tractors. Plus many other related things.? Saw Bob Lefever there last November and think he was in shock also. Haven't seen any dates for an open house this year; might be first weekend in November. From jthall at worldnet.att.net Tue Jul 21 19:30:28 2009 From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:30:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? References: <715912.25724.qm@web37303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002501ca0a74$6181efb0$52d14c0c@D48VHZ61> We have been a couple times. It is unbelievable. It has got to be one of the largest collections in the world. Everything is kept in buildings--packed so tightly you would think it is a mall parking lot. Even if it is cold and raining you can still enjoy touring the buildings to see his collection. A lot of these tractors are one of only a few examples left. If you want to see tractors built after WWII, don't bother going--this is all about the prairie monsters and the first-generation small tractors. The last time I was there he still did not charge admission. And they ran his Stanley Steamer auto all day giving free rides. The car was so immaculately restored I was afraid to even touch it! Oh, and then there is the general store he built where you can buy penny candy. Do a search for Ken Eder on Smokestack and you should find some more info. and probably a link to some nice photo's. John Hall ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:48 PM Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? Howdy, Has anyone been to this guy's show? http://www.edervillenc.com/ Alan in Michigan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From steve_royster at hotmail.com Tue Jul 21 19:31:56 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:31:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? In-Reply-To: <002a01ca0a68$fc88a2d0$83674b47@mikecomp> References: <715912.25724.qm@web37303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002a01ca0a68$fc88a2d0$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: I have a friend that I see at Reidsville every year that goes. Says it has great stuff to see but it's all his stuff. You can't bring an engine and participate in the show , you just go and see his stuff. No camping, no bringing your engines, just go and look. Steve > From: mr at carolina.rr.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:08:56 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] North Carolina Show? > > Never heard of it. Might be interesting! > > Mike in NC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:48 PM > Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? > > > Howdy, > Has anyone been to this guy's show? > http://www.edervillenc.com/ > > Alan in Michigan > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. Click here. http://windowslive.com/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_MB_new_hotmail_072009 From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Jul 22 00:06:38 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:06:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Lucas N1 coil resistance wanted Message-ID: Hi all Does anyone know the typical coil resistance for a Lucas N1 Magneto please. Peter, Oz From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Jul 22 00:08:57 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:08:57 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Cooper/Stover KA spark plug type. Message-ID: <7FA4E8A1FC9B4B7FADF9DDA2A359953B@peterlowe> Hi all What is the correct spark plug number for a Cooper / Stover KA.? What is the thread size? Thanks Peter, Oz From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Wed Jul 22 07:20:42 2009 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:20:42 +0100 Subject: [SEL] OT 150 years of steam in Luxemberg Message-ID: <005801ca0ad7$99861c70$42920556@intrepid> I received this from a Belgian news group I am in & thought it would be of interest here even tho it is OT. http://net-tv.lu/Movies/Eisebunn10052009.wmv Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From rotigel at me.com Wed Jul 22 13:42:23 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:42:23 -0400 Subject: [SEL] An engine for Arnie In-Reply-To: <20090721195956.83272678BFC@secure.fsr.com> References: <20090721195956.83272678BFC@secure.fsr.com> Message-ID: That's one of the differences between a snapshot and a photograph! Dave On Jul 21, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Orrin B Iseminger wrote: > That sort of thing happens often. Have you ever noticed the > propensity for > people pictures to be cut off at the ankles, but the and top half of > the > photo is blue sky. > > Orrin Iseminger From rotigel at me.com Wed Jul 22 15:51:36 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:51:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Charity Auction In-Reply-To: <10423458.1248218579134.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <10423458.1248218579134.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <2B1B1A36-F34D-4EDD-B210-C629C0FB6C81@me.com> Got you down Tim! Dave PS, Anyone else? On Jul 21, 2009, at 7:22 PM, Tim Christoff wrote: > Put me down for one Dave. > > Tim Christoff > > -----Original Message----- >> From: David Rotigel >> Sent: Jul 18, 2009 4:38 PM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Charity Auction >> >>> Sorry about the delay. Please put me down for two. >>> >>> Joe Maurer >> >> Got you down for two Joe! >> Dave >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Jul 23 07:58:55 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:58:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? In-Reply-To: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> George / Harry / Steve / Mike / Larry, Why don't one of you post the link to that museum we saw on the EHOWT09? I think in terms of numbers and raw diversity its got to top this one. See ya, Arnie On Tue, July 21, 2009 9:14 pm, Bill Grimley wrote: > Well it strikes me as unbelievable.? Never have seen so much stuff all in one place, > but I never went to Oscar's.? Must be about 75-100 steam tractors, at least 500 gas > tractors, most all of it running and under sheds. Lots of the bigger old big > tractors. Plus many other related things.? Saw Bob Lefever there last November and > think he was in shock also. Haven't seen any dates for an open house this year; > might be first weekend in November. > > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Alan wrote: > > From: Alan > Has anyone been to this guy's show? > http://www.edervillenc.com/ > From George_Best at adp.com Thu Jul 23 09:35:09 2009 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:35:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? In-Reply-To: <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40A6C7D7D08@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Arnie is probably referring to the Wim van Schayik collection at Langenboom, Holland. I don't have a website link for it at the moment. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:59 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] North Carolina Show? George / Harry / Steve / Mike / Larry, Why don't one of you post the link to that museum we saw on the EHOWT09? I think in terms of numbers and raw diversity its got to top this one. See ya, Arnie On Tue, July 21, 2009 9:14 pm, Bill Grimley wrote: > Well it strikes me as unbelievable.? Never have seen so much stuff all in one place, > but I never went to Oscar's.? Must be about 75-100 steam tractors, at least 500 gas > tractors, most all of it running and under sheds. Lots of the bigger old big > tractors. Plus many other related things.? Saw Bob Lefever there last November and > think he was in shock also. Haven't seen any dates for an open house this year; > might be first weekend in November. > > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Alan wrote: > > From: Alan > Has anyone been to this guy's show? > http://www.edervillenc.com/ > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From steve_royster at hotmail.com Thu Jul 23 14:36:17 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:36:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40A6C7D7D08@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40A6C7D7D08@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: The new website link is www.tractortron.nl but it is only a brochure and doesn't cover much of the collections. I'll post pictures later so all can see them. Steve > From: George_Best at adp.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:35:09 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SEL] North Carolina Show? > > Arnie is probably referring to the Wim van Schayik collection at Langenboom, Holland. > > I don't have a website link for it at the moment. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:59 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] North Carolina Show? > > George / Harry / Steve / Mike / Larry, > > Why don't one of you post the link to that museum we saw on the EHOWT09? I think in > terms of numbers and raw diversity its got to top this one. > > See ya, Arnie > > On Tue, July 21, 2009 9:14 pm, Bill Grimley wrote: > > Well it strikes me as unbelievable. Never have seen so much stuff all in one place, > > but I never went to Oscar's. Must be about 75-100 steam tractors, at least 500 gas > > tractors, most all of it running and under sheds. Lots of the bigger old big > > tractors. Plus many other related things. Saw Bob Lefever there last November and > > think he was in shock also. Haven't seen any dates for an open house this year; > > might be first weekend in November. > > > > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Alan wrote: > > > > From: Alan > > Has anyone been to this guy's show? > > http://www.edervillenc.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 From frappi at wcoil.com Sun Jul 26 01:09:46 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:09:46 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Last British WW1 Vet Message-ID: <20090726080943.3B2C976B8310@mail07.wcoil.com> Condolences to our British friends and the loss of their last WW1 Vet. Harry Patch Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 USA 419.358.5206 From russell at ncable.com.au Mon Jul 27 00:02:43 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:02:43 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net .com> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your show. Can't wait. Russell From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Mon Jul 27 00:14:44 2009 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:14:44 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> Russell, mate, you WILL have a great time there. I am sorry I wont be along. STOP WORRYING!!!! Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell Gilbert Sent: Monday, 27 July 2009 5:03 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Portland Show Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your show. Can't wait. Russell _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Mon Jul 27 00:25:30 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:25:30 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> Message-ID: <20090727072530.314A530425A@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> Not worrying Reg, just a little excited Russ At 05:14 PM 27/07/2009, you wrote: >Russell, mate, you WILL have a great time there. >I am sorry I wont be along. >STOP WORRYING!!!! > >Reg & Marg Ingold. >Newcastle, NSW, Australia. >randmingold at hotkey.net.au >http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell >Gilbert >Sent: Monday, 27 July 2009 5:03 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: [SEL] Portland Show > >Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and >what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It >has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your >show. Can't wait. >Russell > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From marinesurveys at msn.com Mon Jul 27 02:34:12 2009 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:34:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <20090727072530.314A530425A@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> <20090727072530.314A530425A@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: Guys; would someone post the Portland show info, please. Thanks Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:25:30 +1000 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > From: russell at ncable.com.au > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show > > Not worrying Reg, just a little excited > Russ > At 05:14 PM 27/07/2009, you wrote: > >Russell, mate, you WILL have a great time there. > >I am sorry I wont be along. > >STOP WORRYING!!!! > > > >Reg & Marg Ingold. > >Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > >randmingold at hotkey.net.au > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell > >Gilbert > >Sent: Monday, 27 July 2009 5:03 PM > >To: The SEL email discussion list > >Subject: [SEL] Portland Show > > > >Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and > >what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It > >has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your > >show. Can't wait. > >Russell > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 27 03:15:53 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 03:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <215518.5136.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Is this what you were looking for Frank? http://www.tristategasengine-tractor.com/ ? Google is your friend. ? Alan in Michigan --- On Mon, 7/27/09, frank skinner wrote: From: frank skinner Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show To: "AA_OLD ENGINE" Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 5:34 AM Guys; would someone post the Portland show info, please. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Thanks ? ? ? ? Franklin S. Skinner ? ? Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 ? ? ???34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:25:30 +1000 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > From: russell at ncable.com.au > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show > > Not worrying Reg, just a little excited > Russ > At 05:14 PM 27/07/2009, you wrote: > >Russell, mate, you WILL have a great time there. > >I am sorry I wont be along. > >STOP WORRYING!!!! > > > >Reg & Marg Ingold. > >Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > >randmingold at hotkey.net.au > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell > >Gilbert > >Sent: Monday, 27 July 2009 5:03 PM > >To: The SEL email discussion list > >Subject: [SEL] Portland Show > > > >Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and > >what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It > >has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your > >show. Can't wait. > >Russell > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Mon Jul 27 05:33:54 2009 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:33:54 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <4A6D9EB2.9030802@steamengine.com.au> Hi Russell, you'll have a hell of a time. The members of this list, and in particular the Portland people - especially my best friends - you know who you are - are some of the most generous and welcoming people you will meet on this earth. Whether you choose the live in a hotel or camp in the camp ground alternative you will be spending time with some great folks. Try and get to both and make sure you get to the dinner and auction. You'll probably buy something so start trying to figure out how to bring it home now ;). Oh yeah, when someone tries to tell you a bloomin onion is Australian just nod and let it slide - they won't be convinced! ps. Go over to the grand stand at the edge of the show - some really nice pies are baked by some lovely older ladies. Ask the people you meet at Portland if they remember the crazy Australian that just kept on eating cherry pies. Oh, yeah, you MUST take a driz-a-bone. It is simply mandatory. If you want some friendship gifts for special people you meet - take Australian bush hats. Regards Paul Russell Gilbert wrote: > Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and > what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It > has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your > show. Can't wait. > Russell > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon Jul 27 05:46:43 2009 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:46:43 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <5FAF7ED98CFE436C882DF07A9529B66C@tommyd0x52gkco> Russell, I'll be there unless something happens between now and then. Its Ohio built engines to be the feature so I'll probably bring the Miami. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell Gilbert Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 3:03 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Portland Show Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your show. Can't wait. Russell _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Jul 27 05:49:26 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:49:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X In-Reply-To: <2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> Message-ID: <20090727124924.B77433E4477@mail05.wcoil.com> "Early" Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X Heres a question for ya'll. Have any of you noticed or have you got any twin Maytag engines with early serial numbers, numbers in the 810000-810100 range that has an X after the number. Not to be confused with the post war engines with serial numbers starting at 100000X and extending to 205427X . Been casually tracking these 810000 engines for years. I know of three so far. Anyone else got one? Its thought that maybe there were 100 engines so marked. Does anyone have engines in the same serial number range 810000-810100 without the X ? Thanks for reading, Mark Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for this Country! Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com Mon Jul 27 06:25:45 2009 From: skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com (SKIP CLEVELAND) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:25:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au><2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> <20090727124924.B77433E4477@mail05.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <5D253DC3A42341F98192ADBDE97B9301@YOURDA6F5028CB> Mark. For the record mine is 145933X. Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Shulaw" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 8:49 AM Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X > "Early" Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X > > > > Heres a question for ya'll. Have any of you noticed or have you got > any twin Maytag engines with early serial numbers, numbers in the > 810000-810100 range that has an X after the number. Not to be > confused with the post war engines with serial numbers starting at > 100000X and extending to 205427X . Been casually tracking these > 810000 engines for years. I know of three so far. Anyone else got > one? Its thought that maybe there were 100 engines so marked. Does > anyone have engines in the same serial number range 810000-810100 > without the X ? Thanks for reading, Mark > > > > > > Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for > this Country! > > Mark Shulaw > 454 Co. Rd. 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From curt at rustyiron.com Mon Jul 27 07:05:12 2009 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:05:12 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <5FAF7ED98CFE436C882DF07A9529B66C@tommyd0x52gkco> References: <5FAF7ED98CFE436C882DF07A9529B66C@tommyd0x52gkco> Message-ID: <59362.168.215.206.73.1248703512.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Tommy, Could you take a stab at listing Ohio built engines? Thanks, Curt Holland P.S. Is there a comprehensive "manufactured in" state by state listing of engines that you know of? > Russell, > I'll be there unless something happens between now and then. > Its Ohio built engines to be the feature so I'll probably bring the > Miami. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell > Gilbert > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 3:03 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: [SEL] Portland Show > > > Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and > what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It > has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your > show. Can't wait. > Russell > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Jul 27 08:00:35 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:00:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: G'day Russell, Mate, ya gots no worries. You'll NEVER see all the engines at Portland. You've only got a week. See ya, Arnie On Mon, July 27, 2009 3:02 am, Russell Gilbert wrote: > Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and > what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It > has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your > show. Can't wait. From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Jul 27 08:08:05 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with AXE In-Reply-To: <20090727124924.B77433E4477@mail05.wcoil.com> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> <20090727124924.B77433E4477@mail05.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <28a2cf7232d21820d94b05af4d39c948.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Mark, I think Dave may have one or two with an AXE. See ya, Arnie On Mon, July 27, 2009 8:49 am, Mark Shulaw wrote: > "Early" Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with AXE > > Heres a question for ya'll. Have any of you noticed or have you got > any twin Maytag engines with early serial numbers, numbers in the > 810000-810100 range that has an AXE after the number. Not to be > confused with the post war engines with serial numbers starting at > 100000X and extending to 205427X . Been casually tracking these > 810000 engines for years. I know of three so far. Anyone else got > one? Its thought that maybe there were 100 engines so marked. Does > anyone have engines in the same serial number range 810000-810100 > without the AXE ? Thanks for reading, Mark From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Jul 27 09:29:45 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:29:45 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090727182423.00bca410@mail.atech.co.za> >Message: 8 >Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:49:26 -0400 >From: Mark Shulaw >Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X > >"Early" Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X > >Heres a question for ya'll. Have any of you noticed or have you got >any twin Maytag engines with early serial numbers, numbers in the >810 000-810 100 range that has an X after the number. Not to be >confused with the post war engines with serial numbers starting at >100 000X and extending to 205 427X . Been casually tracking these >810 000 engines for years. I know of three so far. Anyone else got >one? Its thought that maybe there were 100 engines so marked. Does >anyone have engines in the same serial number range 810000-810100 >without the X ? Thanks for reading, Mark Nothing like that here Mark but, also for the record mine are 200607X and 117680X (This is the genset). Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Jul 27 10:05:52 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:05:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: Russell, You will be all right if you just remember one thing . When someone passes you a fruit jar of clear or charcoal colored liquid refreshment. Just take a sip and keep passing it around. Soon, you will be having the time of your life! Yeee Haaaa, I can't wait. Steve > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:02:43 +1000 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > From: russell at ncable.com.au > Subject: [SEL] Portland Show > > Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and > what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It > has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your > show. Can't wait. > Russell > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Jul 27 10:28:13 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:28:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X In-Reply-To: <5D253DC3A42341F98192ADBDE97B9301@YOURDA6F5028CB> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> <20090727124924.B77433E4477@mail05.wcoil.com> <5D253DC3A42341F98192ADBDE97B9301@YOURDA6F5028CB> Message-ID: <20090727172809.57E9433C0571@mail06.wcoil.com> Yes thats post war production dating to Dec 1947 the ones we are looking for is 1937 vintage with serial numbers in the 810000 range with an X after the number. Its believed that there were only 100 such engines numberd with the X from 810000 to 810100 Thank You, Mark At 09:25 AM 7/27/2009, you wrote: >Mark. For the record mine is 145933X. >Skip >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Shulaw" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 8:49 AM >Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X > > > > "Early" Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X > > > > > > > > Heres a question for ya'll. Have any of you noticed or have you got > > any twin Maytag engines with early serial numbers, numbers in the > > 810000-810100 range that has an X after the number. Not to be > > confused with the post war engines with serial numbers starting at > > 100000X and extending to 205427X . Been casually tracking these > > 810000 engines for years. I know of three so far. Anyone else got > > one? Its thought that maybe there were 100 engines so marked. Does > > anyone have engines in the same serial number range 810000-810100 > > without the X ? Thanks for reading, Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for > > this Country! > > > > Mark Shulaw > > 454 Co. Rd. 33 > > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > > USA > > > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.32/2266 - Release Date: >07/27/09 05:58:00 Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for this Country! Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From marinesurveys at msn.com Mon Jul 27 10:39:28 2009 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:39:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Kipps or simular lubricator In-Reply-To: <81E5F5ECA61A4B2FB15649266D6AAE8D@officedepotPC> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> <20090727072530.314A530425A@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <81E5F5ECA61A4B2FB15649266D6AAE8D@officedepotPC> Message-ID: Hi Folks; I have a friend that hunting for at least an 8 point lubricator to use on a "Navy K " steam engine. Please let me know if anyone may have one or know where I might locate one. A Kipps or simular would be great. Thanks Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 From flywheelin at hotmail.com Mon Jul 27 10:58:56 2009 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:58:56 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: Just keep your skivvies on..... Don't have too many sips or it'll be lights out. You might wake up in the morning with yer head poundin and wonder where you are. But then again, you can always recover the next day....... http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/port07/portland96.html http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/port07/portland94.html Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ======================== > From: steve_royster at hotmail.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:05:52 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show > > > Russell, You will be all right if you just remember one thing . When someone passes you a fruit jar of clear or charcoal colored liquid refreshment. Just take a sip and keep passing it around. Soon, you will be having the time of your life! Yeee Haaaa, I can't wait. Steve > > > > > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:02:43 +1000 > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > From: russell at ncable.com.au > > Subject: [SEL] Portland Show > > > > Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and > > what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It > > has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your > > show. Can't wait. > > Russell > > _________________________________________________________________ Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 From rotigel at me.com Mon Jul 27 13:11:22 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:11:22 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X In-Reply-To: <5D253DC3A42341F98192ADBDE97B9301@YOURDA6F5028CB> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> <20090727124924.B77433E4477@mail05.wcoil.com> <5D253DC3A42341F98192ADBDE97B9301@YOURDA6F5028CB> Message-ID: <48E4CDE9-81A5-45EE-A54B-C6BAF7DC2451@me.com> Mine is a SINGLE BLADE! Dave On Jul 27, 2009, at 9:25 AM, SKIP CLEVELAND wrote: > Mark. For the record mine is 145933X. > Skip > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Shulaw" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 8:49 AM > Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X > > >> "Early" Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X >> >> >> >> Heres a question for ya'll. Have any of you noticed or have you got >> any twin Maytag engines with early serial numbers, numbers in the >> 810000-810100 range that has an X after the number. Not to be >> confused with the post war engines with serial numbers starting at >> 100000X and extending to 205427X . Been casually tracking these >> 810000 engines for years. I know of three so far. Anyone else got >> one? Its thought that maybe there were 100 engines so marked. Does >> anyone have engines in the same serial number range 810000-810100 >> without the X ? Thanks for reading, Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for >> this Country! >> >> Mark Shulaw >> 454 Co. Rd. 33 >> Bluffton, OH. 45817 >> USA >> >> Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. >> Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. >> VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From kimmell at verizon.net Mon Jul 27 13:18:16 2009 From: kimmell at verizon.net (kimmell at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:18:16 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X In-Reply-To: <48E4CDE9-81A5-45EE-A54B-C6BAF7DC2451@me.com> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au><2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG><20090727124924.B77433E4477@mail05.wcoil.com><5D253DC3A42341F98192ADBDE97B9301@YOURDA6F5028CB><48E4CDE9-81A5-45EE-A54B-C6BAF7DC2451@me.com> Message-ID: <1542940360-1248726007-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-735444245-@bxe1176.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Some folks calls it a Kaiser blade... I calls it a sling blade. Mmm-hmmm... Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect -----Original Message----- From: David Rotigel Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:11:22 To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X Mine is a SINGLE BLADE! Dave On Jul 27, 2009, at 9:25 AM, SKIP CLEVELAND wrote: > Mark. For the record mine is 145933X. > Skip > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Shulaw" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 8:49 AM > Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X > > >> "Early" Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X >> >> >> >> Heres a question for ya'll. Have any of you noticed or have you got >> any twin Maytag engines with early serial numbers, numbers in the >> 810000-810100 range that has an X after the number. Not to be >> confused with the post war engines with serial numbers starting at >> 100000X and extending to 205427X . Been casually tracking these >> 810000 engines for years. I know of three so far. Anyone else got >> one? Its thought that maybe there were 100 engines so marked. Does >> anyone have engines in the same serial number range 810000-810100 >> without the X ? Thanks for reading, Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for >> this Country! >> >> Mark Shulaw >> 454 Co. Rd. 33 >> Bluffton, OH. 45817 >> USA >> >> Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. >> Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. >> VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Jul 27 15:59:39 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:59:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: Damn engine shows are GRUELING! It's a wonder that we even survive. 8-)) On Mon, July 27, 2009 1:58 pm, Luke Tonneberger wrote: > > Just keep your skivvies on..... Don't have too many sips or it'll be lights out. > You might wake up in the morning with yer head poundin and wonder where you are. > But then again, you can always recover the next day....... > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/port07/portland96.html > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/port07/portland94.html From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 28 08:31:37 2009 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show Message-ID: <671752.62469.qm@web112616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi, We are planning on going to the Marshalltown, IA show this Saturday. http://www.miapa.org It would be nice to meet up with any list members who are attending. We will have a barn fresh Associated hired man, an associated cream seperator and an 8 horse R & V. Maybe a few others, been spending the past few weeks dragging stuff out of the barn and seeing what will run. Last weekend we went to the Little Log House show in Hastings, MN. http://www.littleloghouseshow.com It is a very nice show, lots of stuff to see and do. The engine area is not huge, but the quality is good and there are things there for the kids and the missus to do. Later, Joe Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan From steve_royster at hotmail.com Tue Jul 28 13:12:18 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:12:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show In-Reply-To: <671752.62469.qm@web112616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <671752.62469.qm@web112616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Joe, We won't be able to attend that one but wondered if you were coming to Portland this year? We'd love to see you again. Steve Royster > Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:31:37 -0700 > From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show > > > Hi, > We are planning on going to the Marshalltown, IA show this Saturday. http://www.miapa.org It would be nice to meet up with any list members who are attending. We will have a barn fresh Associated hired man, an associated cream seperator and an 8 horse R & V. Maybe a few others, been spending the past few weeks dragging stuff out of the barn and seeing what will run. > Last weekend we went to the Little Log House show in Hastings, MN. http://www.littleloghouseshow.com It is a very nice show, lots of stuff to see and do. The engine area is not huge, but the quality is good and there are things there for the kids and the missus to do. > Later, > Joe > Joe Prindle > Baraboo, WI USA > "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?: Search, add, and share the web?s latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports From curt at rustyiron.com Tue Jul 28 13:16:26 2009 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:16:26 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <59356.168.215.206.73.1248812186.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Steve, Be assured I am working on another batch of jars to bring to Portland. Curt > > Russell, You will be all right if you just remember one thing . When > someone passes you a fruit jar of clear or charcoal colored liquid > refreshment. Just take a sip and keep passing it around. Soon, you will be > having the time of your life! Yeee Haaaa, I can't wait. Steve > > > > > > > >> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:02:43 +1000 >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> From: russell at ncable.com.au >> Subject: [SEL] Portland Show >> >> Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and >> what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It >> has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your >> show. Can't wait. >> Russell >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it > now. > http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From steve_royster at hotmail.com Tue Jul 28 14:05:05 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:05:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <59356.168.215.206.73.1248812186.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <59356.168.215.206.73.1248812186.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Great Curt, Christian and Terri will be there from GEM and they would be real sad if you didn't! > Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:16:26 -0600 > From: curt at rustyiron.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show > > Steve, > Be assured I am working on another batch of jars to bring to Portland. > Curt > > > > > > Russell, You will be all right if you just remember one thing . When > > someone passes you a fruit jar of clear or charcoal colored liquid > > refreshment. Just take a sip and keep passing it around. Soon, you will be > > having the time of your life! Yeee Haaaa, I can't wait. Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:02:43 +1000 > >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> From: russell at ncable.com.au > >> Subject: [SEL] Portland Show > >> > >> Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and > >> what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It > >> has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your > >> show. Can't wait. > >> Russell > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it > > now. > > http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 From rotigel at me.com Tue Jul 28 16:41:04 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:41:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <59356.168.215.206.73.1248812186.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Anyone else interested in Terri's blog? Its at http://www.farmcollector.com/blogs/blog-landing.aspx Just click on Happy Trails! Dave On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:05 PM, Steve Royster wrote: > > Great Curt, Christian and Terri will be there from GEM and they > would be real sad if you didn't! > > > >> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:16:26 -0600 >> From: curt at rustyiron.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show >> >> Steve, >> Be assured I am working on another batch of jars to bring to >> Portland. >> Curt >> >> >>> >>> Russell, You will be all right if you just remember one thing . When >>> someone passes you a fruit jar of clear or charcoal colored liquid >>> refreshment. Just take a sip and keep passing it around. Soon, you >>> will be >>> having the time of your life! Yeee Haaaa, I can't wait. Steve >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:02:43 +1000 >>>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> From: russell at ncable.com.au >>>> Subject: [SEL] Portland Show >>>> >>>> Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and >>>> what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to >>>> seeing. It >>>> has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your >>>> show. Can't wait. >>>> Russell >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. >>> Try it >>> now. >>> http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. > Try it now. > http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Tue Jul 28 17:36:56 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:36:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] GEM Blog Message-ID: <6E467432-41DB-46DA-8992-796AD555AFD7@me.com> Has everyone else already discovered the GEM blog at http://www.farmcollector.com/blogs/blog-landing.aspx and simply neglected to tell me? Richard, Terri, Christian et.al. They are all there! Dave PS, Give it a look. As that chick in the ad says--"This could be FUN!" PS, Be sure to check out Christian's albums! From rotigel at me.com Tue Jul 28 21:05:21 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:05:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend Message-ID: Hi All, Last week Arnie and I visited an old friend that we had not seen in years, Last time we saw him it didn't look real good. I really wasn't sure he would survive. I knew he had a very dedicated care giver, but one person can only do so much! It was with some fear that we drove from Pittsburgh to Youngstown for our visit, and to say the least we were impressed by the job Tod's care giver had done. Since pictures are worth a thousand words see http://www.me.com/gallery/#home (and click onTod 2009 for what we found in Youngstown.) I think our friend will be up and running before too long! Dave PS, You are doing ONE HELL OF A JOB Rick! From kosh at ncweb.com Tue Jul 28 22:51:21 2009 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:51:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> Would like to see the pix, but the site wants me to sign up to receive spam. Dave Merchant At 12:05 AM 7/29/2009, David Rotigel wrote: >Hi All, > Last week Arnie and I visited an old friend that we had not seen in >years, Last time we saw him it didn't look real good. I really wasn't >sure he would survive. I knew he had a very dedicated care giver, but >one person can only do so much! It was with some fear that we drove >from Pittsburgh to Youngstown for our visit, and to say the least we >were impressed by the job Tod's care giver had done. Since pictures >are worth a thousand words see http://www.me.com/gallery/#home (and >click onTod 2009 for what we found in Youngstown.) I think our friend >will be up and running before too long! > Dave >PS, You are doing ONE HELL OF A JOB Rick! >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Jul 28 22:59:45 2009 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:59:45 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> 2009/7/29 Dave Merchant : > Would like to see the pix, but the site wants me to sign up to receive spam. > > Dave Merchant Same here, requires sign-in/registration to view the pictures. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rotigel at me.com Wed Jul 29 06:13:29 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:13:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> What happens if you go directly to: http://www.me.com/gallery/#100034 Dave On Jul 29, 2009, at 1:59 AM, Listerdiesel wrote: > 2009/7/29 Dave Merchant : >> Would like to see the pix, but the site wants me to sign up to >> receive spam. >> >> Dave Merchant > > Same here, requires sign-in/registration to view the pictures. > > Peter From rolfb at accima.com Wed Jul 29 06:10:23 2009 From: rolfb at accima.com (Bob W7AVK) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:10:23 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> Message-ID: <4A704A3F.4050508@accima.com> David - Requires login / Password at below. Must sign up. Get enough spam, don't want more. Thank you NO. Regards, Bob R. David Rotigel wrote: > What happens if you go directly to: http://www.me.com/gallery/#100034 > Dave > > On Jul 29, 2009, at 1:59 AM, Listerdiesel wrote: > > >> 2009/7/29 Dave Merchant : >> >>> Would like to see the pix, but the site wants me to sign up to >>> receive spam. >>> >>> Dave Merchant >>> >> Same here, requires sign-in/registration to view the pictures. >> >> Peter >> > From marinesurveys at msn.com Wed Jul 29 06:10:20 2009 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:10:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> Message-ID: it sends you to https://auth.apple.com/authenticate?service=DockStatus&realm=primary-me&returnURL=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5tZS5jb20vd28vV2ViT2JqZWN0cy9Eb2NrU3RhdHVzLndvYS93YS90cmFtcG9saW5l&destinationUrl=/gallery&destinationAnchor=100034 Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: rotigel at me.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:13:29 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend > > What happens if you go directly to: http://www.me.com/gallery/#100034 > Dave > > On Jul 29, 2009, at 1:59 AM, Listerdiesel wrote: > > > 2009/7/29 Dave Merchant : > >> Would like to see the pix, but the site wants me to sign up to > >> receive spam. > >> > >> Dave Merchant > > > > Same here, requires sign-in/registration to view the pictures. > > > > Peter > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From curt at rustyiron.com Wed Jul 29 06:21:00 2009 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:21:00 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <59356.168.215.206.73.1248812186.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <59411.168.215.206.73.1248873660.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> I promised a pint for Terri and considered shipping it to her, but had reservations about doing so. Don't want to get busted. Curt > > Great Curt, Christian and Terri will be there from GEM and they would be > real sad if you didn't! > > > >> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:16:26 -0600 >> From: curt at rustyiron.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show >> >> Steve, >> Be assured I am working on another batch of jars to bring to Portland. >> Curt >> >> >> > >> > Russell, You will be all right if you just remember one thing . When >> > someone passes you a fruit jar of clear or charcoal colored liquid >> > refreshment. Just take a sip and keep passing it around. Soon, you >> will be >> > having the time of your life! Yeee Haaaa, I can't wait. Steve >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:02:43 +1000 >> >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >> From: russell at ncable.com.au >> >> Subject: [SEL] Portland Show >> >> >> >> Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and >> >> what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It >> >> has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your >> >> show. Can't wait. >> >> Russell >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SEL mailing list >> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try >> it >> > now. >> > http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SEL mailing list >> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it > now. > http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Jul 29 07:01:23 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:01:23 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Upside down Wizard mags Message-ID: Hi all Does anyone know if the upside down Wizard mags, as used on R&V engines and I guess others, give any particular problems out of the ordinary?? Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Jul 29 08:39:35 2009 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:39:35 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Upside down Wizard mags Message-ID: <20090729.083935.560.3.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi Peter. Weren't those developed just for use down under? It is up here they give trouble. Should work flawlessly down there. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:01:23 +1000 "Peter Lowe" writes: Hi all Does anyone know if the upside down Wizard mags, as used on R&V engines and I guess others, give any particular problems out of the ordinary?? Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines ____________________________________________________________ Workers Compensation Legal Advice. Click here http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTOcqG9avqDclehbhJbhuWKCJAcYmlkCd7wXCRioPFdtgR0FdrrYju/ From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Jul 29 12:49:06 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:49:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <59411.168.215.206.73.1248873660.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Curt: PLEASE don't ship that stuff. If the package gets dropped, it'll level the whole block! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > curt at rustyiron.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 08:21 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show > > > I promised a pint for Terri and considered > shipping it to her, but had > reservations about doing so. Don't want to get busted. > Curt From rotigel at me.com Wed Jul 29 12:27:55 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:27:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6ED876BB-0941-4DFF-8DB9-377B44702350@me.com> Sorry Guys! I think this one will work. Try: http://gallery.me.com/rotigel#100034 &bgcolor=black&view=grid Dave PS, Since I'm signed in, I can't tell for sure if others can now get in. Let me know. On Jul 29, 2009, at 1:59 AM, Listerdiesel wrote: > 2009/7/29 Dave Merchant : >> Would like to see the pix, but the site wants me to sign up to >> receive spam. >> >> Dave Merchant > > Same here, requires sign-in/registration to view the pictures. > > Peter From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 29 12:18:01 2009 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <966146.50622.qm@web112602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi Steve, I am not going to make Portland this year. I am running low on vacation time and it wouldn't make sense to go on Saturday since everyone will be packing it in. I burned most of my vacation time in late May and early June when my wife had our first child, a girl named Emma. Photos can be found here: http://www.1020titan.com/emma.htm . I am hoping to make it to the show in Marshalltown and then Baraboo, Edgar (great show for early tractors), Rock River Thresheree and Albany, MN. Next year I hope to make Findlay and Portland. Hope all is well in your part of the world. Thanks, Joe Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Steve Royster wrote: > From: Steve Royster > Subject: Re: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 3:12 PM > > Hi Joe,? We won't be able to attend that one but > wondered if you were coming to Portland this year? We'd love > to see you again. Steve Royster > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:31:37 -0700 > > From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Subject: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show > > > > > > Hi, > > We are planning on going to the Marshalltown, IA show > this Saturday. http://www.miapa.org It would be nice to meet up with > any list members who are attending. We will have a barn > fresh Associated hired man, an associated cream seperator > and an 8 horse R & V. Maybe a few others, been spending > the past few weeks dragging stuff out of the barn and seeing > what will run. > > Last weekend we went to the Little Log House show in > Hastings, MN. http://www.littleloghouseshow.com It is a > very nice show, lots of stuff to see and do. The engine area > is not huge, but the quality is good and there are things > there for the kids and the missus to do. > > Later, > > Joe > > Joe Prindle > > Baraboo, WI USA > > "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't > make me happy." Spike Milligan > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live? Hotmail?: Search, add, and share the > web?s latest sports videos. Check it out. > http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From carl_scott at hotmail.com Wed Jul 29 12:48:16 2009 From: carl_scott at hotmail.com (Carl ) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:48:16 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <6ED876BB-0941-4DFF-8DB9-377B44702350@me.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com><6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <6ED876BB-0941-4DFF-8DB9-377B44702350@me.com> Message-ID: Thanks Dave, pics are fast and clear. Carlton Sorry Guys! I think this one will work. Try: http://gallery.me.com/rotigel#100034 &bgcolor=black&view=grid Dave PS, Since I'm signed in, I can't tell for sure if others can now get in. Let me know. From steve_royster at hotmail.com Wed Jul 29 13:17:43 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:17:43 -0400 Subject: [SEL] GEM Blog In-Reply-To: <6E467432-41DB-46DA-8992-796AD555AFD7@me.com> References: <6E467432-41DB-46DA-8992-796AD555AFD7@me.com> Message-ID: HI Dave, We all knew about the blog but hesitated to let you in on the fun. You see, we just thought at your age you had enough to process with SEL and SLICK already. If you decide you can handle it go easy at first! Your concerned friends. ps, Curt is bringing Terri fruit jars to Portland this year, do you know why, is she doing a canning demonstration for farm collector? pps, Why isn't he bringing some for Richard and Christian? ppps, Did you reserve the Back Room at the Back 40 so we could auction some fruit jars again this year? Steve > From: rotigel at me.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:36:56 -0400 > Subject: [SEL] GEM Blog > > Has everyone else already discovered the GEM blog at http://www.farmcollector.com/blogs/blog-landing.aspx > and simply neglected to tell me? Richard, Terri, Christian et.al. > They are all there! > Dave > PS, Give it a look. As that chick in the ad says--"This could be FUN!" > PS, Be sure to check out Christian's albums! > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?: Search, add, and share the web?s latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jul 29 15:46:33 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:46:33 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> Message-ID: <20090729224628.697CB3180A3@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Dave I can't get in with any of the links posted to date. Russell At 11:13 PM 29/07/2009, you wrote: >What happens if you go directly to: http://www.me.com/gallery/#100034 > Dave > >On Jul 29, 2009, at 1:59 AM, Listerdiesel wrote: > > > 2009/7/29 Dave Merchant : > >> Would like to see the pix, but the site wants me to sign up to > >> receive spam. > >> > >> Dave Merchant > > > > Same here, requires sign-in/registration to view the pictures. > > > > Peter >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Jul 29 16:44:09 2009 From: bill at antique-engines.com (Bill Dickerson) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:44:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help pleasE? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sort of OT, sort of on. I do pull my flat bed with tractor and engines around and haul engines in the back.......... OK, 1995 Ford F250 3/4 ton 4x4 with 315 and automatic. Probably a heavy axle as it's got the larger of the lockout hubs on it - found that out when I busted a lockout 4 years after buying it. IT took the larger one. Brakes new about a year ago, tires not too bad, recently rotated. New pads, rotors turned. Was pulling a trailer with it when I realized that when you hit the brakes it felt like the left front was shaking or rather "jerking" back and forth, almost like a grabbing brake or a warped rotor, but then not really. Hard to tell for sure, but really felt like left side. Wouldn't go away with time, and it only does it when braking. Going down the road, turning, etc. no issues, good solid ride, but brake and it is almost scary. It does it with no trailer on behind now too. I raised the front end, pulled the wheels/tires and put my dial indicator on the rotors. Left side almost .001" runout, right side .0005" runout (note 3 zeros so not even 1 thousandth) Rotors and pads still look great and I was able to easily move the calipers back so I could spin the rotors. The calipers move smoothly with only hand or screwdriver. Nothing is stuck, rotors are really true, tires look ok. So I crawled under it and found the spring bushings are really weathered and cracked. Well, it's a 95 so it's almost 15 years old. But then I shone a light up into the front shackle area and found the top bushing for the left front spring shackle was really shot - in fact, bolt to metal, the bushing is split and moved away. Question - is that what I'm feeling? If this was a car I'd feel confident - I did front suspension work to help get through college and did many dozens of front end alignments and rebuilds and it was a full quarter in college, but I'm so out of touch with the larger trucks and their suspension and behaviour......... Thoughts???? Bill Runnells - cold and dry, record cold July From page at velocitynet.com.au Wed Jul 29 17:07:04 2009 From: page at velocitynet.com.au (Ron Page) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:07:04 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <6ED876BB-0941-4DFF-8DB9-377B44702350@me.com> Message-ID: <002301ca10a9$aba0a5b0$6c3bfea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> Worked well for me this time. Ron Canberra -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 5:28 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend Sorry Guys! I think this one will work. Try: http://gallery.me.com/rotigel#100034 &bgcolor=black&view=grid Dave PS, Since I'm signed in, I can't tell for sure if others can now get in. Let me know. On Jul 29, 2009, at 1:59 AM, Listerdiesel wrote: > 2009/7/29 Dave Merchant : >> Would like to see the pix, but the site wants me to sign up to >> receive spam. >> >> Dave Merchant > > Same here, requires sign-in/registration to view the pictures. > > Peter _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bboyce at swat.coop Wed Jul 29 17:33:50 2009 From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:33:50 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help pleasE? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help pleasE? bill,,,, i had a similar problem some time back on my dodge 3/4 ton,,, replaced all sorts of parts with no help,, finally an old parts salesman told me to replace the brake hose on that side, that it was collasping some sort of way and trapping the fluid on the rotor side of the hose,,, sounded way weird to me , but put a new one one, problem solved,,, hope this helps,,, bill boyce lost prairie, arkansas From jbcast at charter.net Wed Jul 29 18:11:38 2009 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:11:38 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help pleasE? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090729211138.THH89.2616931.root@mp18> Bill, any loose parts should be replaced. It still sounds more like a brake problem than a bad front end. Loose front end parts usually show up when hitting bumps, starting a side to side shaking. Does it have a shimmy dampener, a shock mounted on the tie rod. If so replace it, if not, purchase a kit and install it. Runout is not a critical factor on rotors, what you need to check is for fat and thin spots, with runout the caliper floats back and forth, possibly causing noise. If it has fat and thin spots it will grab and let go, causing pulsating. One cause of rotor damage is making a hard stop and holding your foot on the brake at a stop light. This cools the rotor in one spot while rest remains hot.In a sitiuation like this if you can let the vehicle creep it will help. J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Jul 29 20:04:59 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:04:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> Message-ID: <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> It doesn't recognize Internet Exploder 6.0. Dumb, lame Apple software. On Wed, July 29, 2009 9:13 am, David Rotigel wrote: > What happens if you go directly to: http://www.me.com/gallery/#100034 From rotigel at me.com Wed Jul 29 20:30:45 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:30:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Hi Arnie, Use : http://gallery.me.com/ rotigel#100034&bgcolor=black&view=grid. That one seemes to be working even on retarded puter systems! Dave On Jul 29, 2009, at 11:04 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > It doesn't recognize Internet Exploder 6.0. Dumb, lame Apple > software. > > On Wed, July 29, 2009 9:13 am, David Rotigel wrote: >> What happens if you go directly to: http://www.me.com/gallery/#100034 > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Jul 29 20:30:25 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:30:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show In-Reply-To: <966146.50622.qm@web112602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <966146.50622.qm@web112602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40738465744b3176569e3c9228fe1520.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Joe, Hey, CONGRATS!!! See ya at Baraboo. Arnie PS - Remember that grandkids are your reward for not killing and eating your young. On Wed, July 29, 2009 3:18 pm, Joe Prindle wrote: > > most of my vacation time in late May and early June when my wife had our first > child, a girl named Emma. Photos can be found here: > http://www.1020titan.com/emma.htm . From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Jul 29 21:24:42 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:24:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: No joy... On Wed, July 29, 2009 11:30 pm, David Rotigel wrote: > Hi Arnie, Use : http://gallery.me.com/ > rotigel#100034&bgcolor=black&view=grid. That one seemes to be working > even on retarded puter systems! From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Jul 29 21:52:16 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:52:16 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: On Jul 29, 2009, at 8:04 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > It doesn't recognize Internet Exploder 6.0. Dumb, lame Apple > software. Holy smokes, Arnie. You're running eight year old software that isn't intended to do anything more than the most rudimentary web browsing. It's about time that you converted some of those w?n (?) into American Greenbacks, and buy something functional. Rob P.S. Veronica is dead. From ilifa at internode.on.net Wed Jul 29 21:59:47 2009 From: ilifa at internode.on.net (Eric Schulz) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:59:47 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Might I suggest that IE6 is very outdated. It costs nothing to upgrade to the latest edition. You are better off downloading Firefox, also free. Microsoft products are regarded as virus magnets. I tried http://gallery.me.com/rotigel#100034 using an old version of IE I still have on my Mac and it would not open it either. Eric Arnie Fero wrote: > It doesn't recognize Internet Exploder 6.0. Dumb, lame Apple > software. From falcon at telenet.net Wed Jul 29 23:00:12 2009 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:00:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help pleasE? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A7136EC.1000603@telenet.net> Bill Dickerson wrote: > Sort of OT, sort of on. I do pull my flat bed with tractor and engines > around and haul engines in the back.......... > OK, 1995 Ford F250 3/4 ton 4x4 with 315 and automatic. Probably a heavy axle > as it's got the larger of the lockout hubs on it - found that out when I > busted a lockout 4 years after buying it. IT took the larger one. > > Brakes new about a year ago, tires not too bad, recently rotated. New pads, > rotors turned. > Was pulling a trailer with it when I realized that when you hit the brakes > it felt like the left front was shaking or rather "jerking" back and forth, > almost like a grabbing brake or a warped rotor, but then not really. Hard to > tell for sure, but really felt like left side. Wouldn't go away with time, > and it only does it when braking. Going down the road, turning, etc. no > issues, good solid ride, but brake and it is almost scary. > It does it with no trailer on behind now too. > I raised the front end, pulled the wheels/tires and put my dial indicator on > the rotors. Left side almost .001" runout, right side .0005" runout (note 3 > zeros so not even 1 thousandth) > Rotors and pads still look great and I was able to easily move the calipers > back so I could spin the rotors. The calipers move smoothly with only hand > or screwdriver. Nothing is stuck, rotors are really true, tires look ok. > So I crawled under it and found the spring bushings are really weathered and > cracked. Well, it's a 95 so it's almost 15 years old. But then I shone a > light up into the front shackle area and found the top bushing for the left > front spring shackle was really shot - in fact, bolt to metal, the bushing > is split and moved away. > Question - is that what I'm feeling? > If this was a car I'd feel confident - I did front suspension work to help > get through college and did many dozens of front end alignments and rebuilds > and it was a full quarter in college, but I'm so out of touch with the > larger trucks and their suspension and behaviour......... > > Thoughts???? > > Bill > Runnells - cold and dry, record cold July > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Being a solid axle truck gets you away from the common C bushing problems. First replace ALL the spring bushings. What your feeling could easily be caused by the bad bushing allowing the spring to shift under braking. Especially when it comes/goes with braking, and the front bushing is bad. What you are feeling is essentially the same thing as spring wrap in the rear of a leaf spring hot rod. You step on the brake and the axle reacts by trying to twist. With the bad mount the spring can move farther and then the spring returns and what you feel is the oscillation of the spring. -- Steve W. From falcon at telenet.net Wed Jul 29 23:57:40 2009 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:57:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <4A714464.5020309@telenet.net> Eric Schulz wrote: > Might I suggest that IE6 is very outdated. It costs nothing to upgrade > to the latest edition. You are better off downloading Firefox, also > free. Microsoft products are regarded as virus magnets. > I tried http://gallery.me.com/rotigel#100034 using an old version of > IE I still have on my Mac and it would not open it either. > > Eric > > Arnie Fero wrote: > >> It doesn't recognize Internet Exploder 6.0. Dumb, lame Apple >> software. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > No problem opening it here. Used the old box with IE5, one with IE6 and even the toy with Win7 on it didn't have a problem. Neither of the Linux rigs had problems either. Firefox 2,3 and the latest beta all worked fine. I don't bother updating software until I find a real reason or something that it is required for. And even then I'll look for a work around. -- Steve W. From k_armstrong at arach.net.au Thu Jul 30 04:36:06 2009 From: k_armstrong at arach.net.au (kevin armstrong) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:36:06 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members References: Message-ID: Hello peter, Did you get a reply for this email as i have one and in need of information regards Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong Collectors of old things Perth WA Australia Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member V.C.C. of WA. member k_armstrong at arach.net.au www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter ogborne" To: Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 4:41 PM Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members > Is there anyone please who is familier with this engine .It is the > vertical two stroke . I would like an explanation of the governor and the > carburator. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From cgandree at mchsi.com Thu Jul 30 04:41:13 2009 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:41:13 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show In-Reply-To: <966146.50622.qm@web112602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <966146.50622.qm@web112602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <073020091141.19806.4A7186D9000CA70B00004D5E223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Hey Joe hows come you waited so long to share those new baby pics with friends??? Cute little girl and congratulations to both of you! I expect to see her turning flywheels at Baraboo. Curt Andree-------------- Original message from Joe Prindle : -------------- > > Hi Steve, I am not going to make Portland this year. I am running low on vacation time and it wouldn't make sense to go on Saturday since everyone will be packing it in. I burned most of my vacation time in late May and early June when my wife had our first child, a girl named Emma. Photos can be found here: > http://www.1020titan.com/emma.htm . I am hoping to make it to the show in Marshalltown and then Baraboo, Edgar (great show for early tractors), Rock River Thresheree and Albany, MN. Next year > I hope to make Findlay and Portland. > Hope all is well in your part of the world. > Thanks, > Joe > Joe Prindle > Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike > Milligan > > > --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Steve Royster wrote: > > > From: Steve Royster > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show > > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 3:12 PM > > > > Hi Joe, We won't be able to attend that one but > > wondered if you were coming to Portland this year? We'd love > > to see you again. Steve Royster > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:31:37 -0700 > > > From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com > > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > > Subject: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > We are planning on going to the Marshalltown, IA show > > this Saturday. http://www.miapa.org It would be nice to meet up with > > any list members who are attending. We will have a barn > > fresh Associated hired man, an associated cream seperator > > and an 8 horse R & V. Maybe a few others, been spending > > the past few weeks dragging stuff out of the barn and seeing > > what will run. > > > Last weekend we went to the Little Log House show in > > Hastings, MN. http://www.littleloghouseshow.com It is a > > very nice show, lots of stuff to see and do. The engine area > > is not huge, but the quality is good and there are things > > there for the kids and the missus to do. > > > Later, > > > Joe > > > Joe Prindle > > > Baraboo, WI USA > > > "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't > > make me happy." Spike Milligan > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SEL mailing list > > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Windows Live? Hotmail?: Search, add, and share the > > web?s latest sports videos. Check it out. > > > http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA > _HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bill at antique-engines.com Thu Jul 30 06:22:00 2009 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help pleasE? In-Reply-To: <4A7136EC.1000603@telenet.net> References: <4A7136EC.1000603@telenet.net> Message-ID: <2808.165.206.180.130.1248960120.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> That's my initial thought. The brakes themselves are easily moved - the calipers can be slid by hand, the pistons are free. If there was much out of parallel, the outer surfaces on each/both rotors would not have been well under spec, IMO. If the outer surfaces are true, that means any out of parallel would have to be fully and totally on the inside surfaces. Hard to imagine, possible I suppose, but hard to imagine the outer remaining true while the inside only warps, esp with smooth moving calipers that move freely. Non-scientific, but I did move the calipers and pads to the point where they JUST touched the rotor surfaces and spun the rotors by hand - you didn't hear a touch, no touch, touch, no touch sound, it was solid and constant, touching consistently with each rotation. I'm quite familiar with spring wrap - my 68 Javelin suffering major wheel-hop solved with slapper bars on the leafs. Torque links with new bushings solve the issue on my current 1970- Javelin, not to mention new HD semi-elliptical springs on the rear. When I come to a stop slowly and just rest my foot on the pedal with real light braking, I feel no pulsation in the pedal at all - not even the slightest. The pedal is always smooth and firm with no pulse. The steering wheel doesn't shake side-to-side either. It's just a weird, hard to describe thing. And although trained as a mechanic in the 70's and working front ends and suspension for years, I never really dealt with trucks at all (other than changing kingpins and I hated that!), and got out of the business in the early 80's before this design. Bill >> > > Being a solid axle truck gets you away from the common C bushing problems. > > First replace ALL the spring bushings. What your feeling could easily be > caused by the bad bushing allowing the spring to shift under braking. > Especially when it comes/goes with braking, and the front bushing is bad. > What you are feeling is essentially the same thing as spring wrap in the > rear of a leaf spring hot rod. You step on the brake and the axle reacts > by trying to twist. With the bad mount the spring can move farther and > then the spring returns and what you feel is the oscillation of the > spring. > > > -- > Steve W. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Thu Jul 30 08:44:15 2009 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:44:15 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Marshalltown, IA Show In-Reply-To: <966146.50622.qm@web112602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <073020091141.19806.4A7186D9000CA70B00004D5E223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <966146.50622.qm@web112602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <073020091141.19806.4A7186D9000CA70B00004D5E223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: Atta boy Joe!! Congrat's to you and the Mom. My Aunt Emma was my second Mom and was one helluva gal!! Best Regards, RickinMt. From steve_royster at hotmail.com Thu Jul 30 09:30:20 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:30:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show In-Reply-To: <966146.50622.qm@web112602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <966146.50622.qm@web112602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Joe, She's a real cutie! Thanks for sharing the pics. Have you bought her first engine yet? Start em young and bring her to the shows . See you next portland hopefully, Steve _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports From bigtime64 at hotmail.com Thu Jul 30 09:51:46 2009 From: bigtime64 at hotmail.com (Ed Herreid) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:51:46 +0000 Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help pleasE? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bill, I had a similar intermittent problem like below on my Cummins truck. The caliper would stick and sometimes would heat up and sometimes would do like you describe. Usually after driving in stop and go traffic. Then when I would get on the road and moving it would act up. Stop and let things cool down and the problem would go away. I checked the caliper several times and could not find anything wrong. Finally changed it out anyway and the problem still came back again. Changed the hose on the advise of another old timer and it has not returned yet. Ed Herreid > From: bboyce at swat.coop > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:33:50 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help pleasE? > > Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help pleasE? > > bill,,,, i had a similar problem some time back on my dodge 3/4 ton,,, > replaced all sorts of parts with no help,, finally an old > parts salesman told me to replace the brake hose on that side, that it was > collasping some sort of way and trapping the > fluid on the rotor side of the hose,,, sounded way weird to me , but put a > new one one, problem solved,,, hope this helps,,, > bill boyce > lost prairie, arkansas > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. Click here. http://windowslive.com/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_MB_new_hotmail_072009 From kimmell at verizon.net Thu Jul 30 10:24:16 2009 From: kimmell at verizon.net (kimmell at verizon.net) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:24:16 +0000 Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help please? Message-ID: <1997202146-1248974770-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-520354320-@bxe1176.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Brake hoses can make crazy things happen. The hoses may look fine on the outside, but the inside breaks down over time and can clog up and cause the truck to pull one way or another or cause the caliper to lock up. I just got done replacing both front hoses on my old beater 1980 Chevy pickup a few days ago actually. The driver side caliper kept locking up and I figured it needed a new caliper. But the caliper let loose when I cracked the bleeder open... Clogged hose wasn't letting the pressure out after I let off the brake. -Tony Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect From jbcast at charter.net Thu Jul 30 10:37:49 2009 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:37:49 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help pleasE? In-Reply-To: <2808.165.206.180.130.1248960120.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <20090730133749.RUKSB.2675176.root@mp11> ---- bill at antique-engines.com wrote: > That's my initial thought. The brakes themselves are easily moved - the > calipers can be slid by hand, the pistons are free. If there was much out > of parallel, the outer surfaces on each/both rotors would not have been > well under spec, IMO. If the outer surfaces are true, that means any out > of parallel would have to be fully and totally on the inside surfaces. > Hard to imagine, possible I suppose, but hard to imagine the outer > remaining true while the inside only warps, esp with smooth moving > calipers that move freely. If this truck were in my shop I would resurface the rotors before doing anything else. If you look at how a rotor is made, the outside is a solid disc all the way into the hub. The inside is a small disc supported by the fins. Which side has the better heat sink? Spring wrap and wheel hop is a rear axle problem under hard acceleration. The springs wrap up under torque and when the wheels break loose they unwrap, causing them to hop. If your front rotors are smooth there shouldn't be a pulsing to cause the springs to wrap and unwrap. I would keep it simple, if that doesn't work look farther. The brake hoses that give trouble are the ones with a bracket clamped around them. The hose expands and where the bracket is clamped it can only go inward, constricting the line. J.B. From bill at antique-engines.com Thu Jul 30 10:47:13 2009 From: bill at antique-engines.com (Bill Dickerson) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:47:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help please? In-Reply-To: <1997202146-1248974770-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-520354320-@bxe1176.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <84CD30B337D04B89868DEFC8943E2E61@l2800> All of the steel lines front to back, side to side are new. It won't hurt to replace hoses - and it's not that hard a job. Might do it anyway, just so I can say "all new brakes" including all lines and hoses. Bill -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of kimmell at verizon.net Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:24 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help please? Brake hoses can make crazy things happen. The hoses may look fine on the outside, but the inside breaks down over time and can clog up and cause the truck to pull one way or another or cause the caliper to lock up. I just got done replacing both front hoses on my old beater 1980 Chevy pickup a few days ago actually. The driver side caliper kept locking up and I figured it needed a new caliper. But the caliper let loose when I cracked the bleeder open... Clogged hose wasn't letting the pressure out after I let off the brake. -Tony Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Jul 30 14:38:15 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:38:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show References: <966146.50622.qm@web112602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006501ca115e$0bed75b0$16614b47@mikecomp> Congrats Joe, but don't buy her one, I'll send you one of Steve's. I'm cleaning out his shed for him come Portland time........ Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show Hi Joe, She's a real cutie! Thanks for sharing the pics. Have you bought her first engine yet? Start em young and bring her to the shows . See you next portland hopefully, Steve _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jopeter at omninet.net.au Thu Jul 30 15:38:31 2009 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:38:31 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members References: Message-ID: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> Hi Kevin...........No response at all through SEL . I have given up with SEL ,it consists of US content mainly . Those Australians that are on it seem to completly absorbed in the US. However I have been able to contact a former member of the now defunct TOMMS Forum .This was done through a network of very good and helpful ex members .We are going to establish this network to help us with our questions and answers. If you are interested let me know and I will add your email address to the list. Regarding the Sunshine Engine , what information do you want, if I have it I will let you know regards Peter Ogborne. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin armstrong" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members > Hello peter, > Did you get a reply for this email as i have one and in need of > information > > regards > > Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong > Collectors of old things > Perth > WA > Australia > Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member > V.C.C. of WA. member > k_armstrong at arach.net.au > www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "peter ogborne" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 4:41 PM > Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members > > >> Is there anyone please who is familier with this engine .It is the >> vertical two stroke . I would like an explanation of the governor and the >> carburator. >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From russell at ncable.com.au Thu Jul 30 16:06:23 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:06:23 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members In-Reply-To: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> Message-ID: <20090730230615.8D388FC024@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> Interesting comments guys. Maybe some of us just don't know the answer! I know I don't. Many of the members from the TOMM forum have moved over to http://www.smokstak.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=115 Smokstak for Aussies. Maybe a good spot to try. Peter you asked me direct about a tomm list member. I replied in kind .... did you post and ask at the link I suggested? Maybe there is quite a bit of good help out and about. E-mail Mick Christie direct, he may also be able to help on sineshine engines. I'm sure he would reply once he gets an e-mail. He just might not live by the list Russell At 08:38 AM 31/07/2009, you wrote: >Hi Kevin...........No response at all through SEL . I have given up with >SEL ,it consists of US content mainly . Those Australians that are on it >seem to completly absorbed in the US. >However I have been able to contact a former member of the now defunct TOMMS >Forum .This was done through a network of very good and helpful ex members >.We are going to establish this network to help us with our questions and >answers. If you are interested let me know and I will add your email address >to the list. >Regarding the Sunshine Engine , what information do you want, if I have it I >will let you know >regards Peter Ogborne. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "kevin armstrong" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:36 PM >Subject: Re: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members > > > > Hello peter, > > Did you get a reply for this email as i have one and in need of > > information > > > > regards > > > > Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong > > Collectors of old things > > Perth > > WA > > Australia > > Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member > > V.C.C. of WA. member > > k_armstrong at arach.net.au > > www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "peter ogborne" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 4:41 PM > > Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members > > > > > >> Is there anyone please who is familier with this engine .It is the > >> vertical two stroke . I would like an explanation of the governor and the > >> carburator. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Jul 30 16:08:04 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:08:04 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members In-Reply-To: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> Message-ID: <6DDD0EAF-DC45-4095-919A-DF0914874747@rustyiron.com> On Jul 30, 2009, at 3:38 PM, peter ogborne wrote: > This was done through a network of very good and helpful ex members > .We are going to establish this network to help us with our > questions and > answers. If you are interested let me know and I will add your email > address > to the list. Why not answer the question here, so we can all benefit from your expertise, rather than making the poor bloke sign up to yet another list, and keeping your information secret from the rest of us? From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu Jul 30 16:30:27 2009 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:30:27 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members In-Reply-To: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> Message-ID: Peter Somewhat BS > No response at all through SEL . I have given up with > SEL ,it consists of US content mainly . Those Australians that are on it > seem to completly absorbed in the US. I did reply to your original question (although poor name spelling) as I was blocked? to your email so posted what I knew to both SEL and ORG. in which I had no reply from you for my effort. > However I have been able to contact a former member of the now defunct > TOMMS > Forum .This was done through a network of very good and helpful ex members > .We are going to establish this network to help us with our questions and > answers. If you are interested let me know and I will add your email > address > to the list. A lot of Aussies are on Smokestack Down Under, ask your question there Kerry From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu Jul 30 17:52:26 2009 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:52:26 +1000 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> Message-ID: G'Day All Question in general, is there a increasing lack of people getting involved in discussion where help is asked. know I have been there on both sides, and it is frustrating in not getting an answer (specially English Crossley and National questions). My thoughts on reasons. 1. I know little or nothing about a particular engine but will wait for an answer to increase my knowledge. 2. I don't care, I don't have that engine so just delete the post 3. others know better so let them answer (they have in the past). 4. last time I tried to help, I jot blasted by others, so stuff it. 5. last time I tried to help I got no reply so not wasting my time again, 6. I only read the list and seldom post even if I could help. 7. I don't like him so will not answer. I know No5 gets up my nose, as I get a lot of questions off list, and after digging data out and replying get no answer, I would say now 50% cannot be bothered to even thank you. These lists were set up to help others are we losing that. Your thoughts Kerry Morris Lithgow NSW Oz From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Jul 30 18:16:10 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:16:10 -0700 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> Message-ID: <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> So what do you need to know about the Crossley and the National, mate? If I don't know the answer, I'll make it up. Incidentally, I've been missing a National part for quite some time, and last Friday came across an engine with the exact same configuration. Problem solved. Rob On Jul 30, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Kerry wrote: > know I have been there on both sides, and it is frustrating in not > getting > an answer (specially English Crossley and National questions). From sndakitto at activ8.net.au Thu Jul 30 18:51:10 2009 From: sndakitto at activ8.net.au (Steven N Kitto) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:51:10 +1000 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> Message-ID: <001801ca1181$65006ae0$2f0140a0$@net.au> Kerry The list has changed a lot over the years that I have been on it. My knowledge on engines is not great. I have Ronnie N's, Delco and Villiers and a lot of 32volt stuff. I enjoy reading many of the posts and especially the ones from Oz because they are often about engines that I see around the place, or I have used over the years. I am interested in the tips to master problems and I store them for future reference. I have always enjoyed the lists Atis and Old engine for the friends that I have met on line. Some I have had the privilege of meeting in person. I have appreciated this especially when life takes you through some very dark moments. I am always willing to share the little information/expertise that I have. I guess the many other forums that are available contribute to the change. I see some of the dilemma as part of a reflection of the world we live in and I am not sure we are "progressing" in many areas. Enough rambling, I'm in danger of getting into preaching mode. At least Sunday's sermon is done. Steve Steve and Denise Kitto 95 Coleyville Road Mutdapilly QLD Australia 4307 Ph 07 54671541 As water reflects a face, so a man's heart reflects the man. Proverbs 27:19 -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Sent: Friday, 31 July 2009 10:52 To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] List Maners G'Day All Question in general, is there a increasing lack of people getting involved in discussion where help is asked. From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Jul 30 19:03:42 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:03:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] List Maners References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> Message-ID: <005801ca1183$21399410$16614b47@mikecomp> For me it's usually because if I don't know the answer, no need to comment. Also I rarely get to read the emails before 9 at night, so usually somebody that also knows has beat me to it. The rest I don't worry about, being flamed by Dr. Dave is much like a rite of passage! I have learned much from the SEl and encourage all to participate with no fear. I have an older brother, been corrected all my life, no big deal! Join in guys and gals, it's fun and even educational. All the best, Mike Royster ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:52 PM Subject: [SEL] List Maners > G'Day All > > Question in general, is there a increasing lack of people getting involved > in discussion where help is asked. > > know I have been there on both sides, and it is frustrating in not getting > an answer (specially English Crossley and National questions). > My thoughts on reasons. > 1. I know little or nothing about a particular engine but will wait for an > answer to increase my knowledge. > 2. I don't care, I don't have that engine so just delete the post > 3. others know better so let them answer (they have in the past). > 4. last time I tried to help, I jot blasted by others, so stuff it. > 5. last time I tried to help I got no reply so not wasting my time again, > 6. I only read the list and seldom post even if I could help. > 7. I don't like him so will not answer. > > I know No5 gets up my nose, as I get a lot of questions off list, and > after > digging data out and replying get no answer, I would say now 50% cannot be > bothered to even thank you. > > These lists were set up to help others are we losing that. > Your thoughts > > Kerry Morris > Lithgow NSW Oz > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Thu Jul 30 19:11:03 2009 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:11:03 EDT Subject: [SEL] List Maners Message-ID: Your opinion and thought should always be given on this site. Just remember no matter where one goes there are always bitchers and complainers KK In a message dated 7/30/2009 7:06:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mr at carolina.rr.com writes: For me it's usually because if I don't know the answer, no need to comment. Also I rarely get to read the emails before 9 at night, so usually somebody that also knows has beat me to it. The rest I don't worry about, being flamed by Dr. Dave is much like a rite of passage! I have learned much from the SEl and encourage all to participate with no fear. I have an older brother, been corrected all my life, no big deal! Join in guys and gals, it's fun and even educational. All the best, Mike Royster **************Hot Deals at Dell on Popular Laptops perfect for Back to School (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223105306x1201716871/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D9) From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Jul 30 19:24:50 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <186752d04c50e5674c009889901dadd3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Who's Veronica? Was she hot? Did SHE use IE 6.0? Is that what killed her? On Thu, July 30, 2009 12:52 am, Rob Skinner wrote: > On Jul 29, 2009, at 8:04 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > >> It doesn't recognize Internet Exploder 6.0. Dumb, lame Apple >> software. > > > Holy smokes, Arnie. You're running eight year old software that isn't > intended to do anything more than the most rudimentary web browsing. > It's about time that you converted some of those w??n (???) into > American Greenbacks, and buy something functional. > > Rob > > P.S. > Veronica is dead. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From george at irontrader.com Thu Jul 30 19:25:31 2009 From: george at irontrader.com (George Best) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:25:31 -0700 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> Message-ID: <000601ca1186$2eae38a0$8c0aa9e0$@com> Kerry, I think it's a combination of things. First of all there are fewer people posting messages to this list in general. We get very few messages compared to what we got many years ago. This is partly due to SmokStak becoming the more dominant forum for discussing engines and most of us use SmokStak as there is a better chance of getting a response to a question. Then there is also the matter of what engine(s) you post questions about. The less common an engine is, the less likely you'll get someone on this list to post a knowledgeable response. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:52 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] List Maners G'Day All Question in general, is there a increasing lack of people getting involved in discussion where help is asked. know I have been there on both sides, and it is frustrating in not getting an answer (specially English Crossley and National questions). My thoughts on reasons. 1. I know little or nothing about a particular engine but will wait for an answer to increase my knowledge. 2. I don't care, I don't have that engine so just delete the post 3. others know better so let them answer (they have in the past). 4. last time I tried to help, I jot blasted by others, so stuff it. 5. last time I tried to help I got no reply so not wasting my time again, 6. I only read the list and seldom post even if I could help. 7. I don't like him so will not answer. I know No5 gets up my nose, as I get a lot of questions off list, and after digging data out and replying get no answer, I would say now 50% cannot be bothered to even thank you. These lists were set up to help others are we losing that. Your thoughts Kerry Morris Lithgow NSW Oz _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Jul 30 20:35:28 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:35:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <2b69d2d71a39635f965a42b8bad149c8.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> OK, this is a test, right? Just seeing if folks actually read carefully what you wrote? See ya, Arnie On Thu, July 30, 2009 9:16 pm, Rob Skinner wrote: > So what do you need to know about the Crossley and the National, > mate? If I don't know the answer, I'll make it up. Incidentally, > I've been missing a National part for quite some time, and last Friday > came across an engine with the exact same configuration. Problem > solved. From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu Jul 30 21:19:45 2009 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:19:45 +1000 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: <2b69d2d71a39635f965a42b8bad149c8.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a><7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> <2b69d2d71a39635f965a42b8bad149c8.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Arnie I saw the bit "Ill make if up" and not sure how Rob got the bit, so not going any further with his post :-)) Kerry > OK, this is a test, right? > Just seeing if folks actually read carefully what you wrote? > > See ya, Arnie > > On Thu, July 30, 2009 9:16 pm, Rob Skinner wrote: >> So what do you need to know about the Crossley and the National, >> mate? If I don't know the answer, I'll make it up. Incidentally, >> I've been missing a National part for quite some time, and last Friday >> came across an engine with the exact same configuration. Problem >> solved. > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Jul 30 22:09:46 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:09:46 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <186752d04c50e5674c009889901dadd3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <186752d04c50e5674c009889901dadd3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: On Jul 30, 2009, at 7:24 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Who's Veronica? Was she hot? Did SHE use IE 6.0? > Is that what killed her? Yes, I suppose it could be said that Internet Explorer helped hammer the last nail into Veronica's coffin. From kosh at ncweb.com Thu Jul 30 23:05:38 2009 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:05:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: References: <186752d04c50e5674c009889901dadd3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <186752d04c50e5674c009889901dadd3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20090731020502.0c95e870@ncweb.com> I could answer this, but it's too much fun to watch. Dave Merchant At 01:09 AM 7/31/2009, you wrote: >On Jul 30, 2009, at 7:24 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > > > Who's Veronica? Was she hot? Did SHE use IE 6.0? > > Is that what killed her? > >Yes, I suppose it could be said that Internet Explorer helped hammer >the last nail into Veronica's coffin. > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From russell at ncable.com.au Thu Jul 30 23:25:03 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:25:03 +1000 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <20090731062454.94A723045D3@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> I thought no one answered Kerry's question because we just don't have any interest in Crossley's or Nationals! At 11:16 AM 31/07/2009, you wrote: >So what do you need to know about the Crossley and the National, >mate? If I don't know the answer, I'll make it up. Incidentally, >I've been missing a National part for quite some time, and last Friday >came across an engine with the exact same configuration. Problem >solved. > >Rob > > > > >On Jul 30, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Kerry wrote: > > know I have been there on both sides, and it is frustrating in not > > getting > > an answer (specially English Crossley and National questions). > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jopeter at omninet.net.au Fri Jul 31 02:01:34 2009 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:01:34 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> <20090730230615.8D388FC024@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: Russell I thought i had replied and thanked you as i always make a point of answering and thanking . No excuse if I did not so please accept my apoligy. I did attempt the link you gave me but no good .In the meantime as I said to Kevin Armstrong I was able to contact someone here in Australia ,Paul Newman. Paul had all the answers .These if I hear from Kevin Armstrong and what he wants to know I will certainly let him have it. I did not pursue my quest for information on the Sunshine Type C on SEL as it would be very surprising if anyone in the US could help . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Gilbert" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members > Interesting comments guys. Maybe some of us just don't know the > answer! I know I don't. Many of the members from the TOMM forum have > moved over to http://www.smokstak.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=115 > Smokstak for Aussies. Maybe a good spot to try. > > Peter you asked me direct about a tomm list member. I replied in kind > .... did you post and ask at the link I suggested? Maybe there is > quite a bit of good help out and about. E-mail Mick Christie direct, > he may also be able to help on sineshine engines. I'm sure he would > reply once he gets an e-mail. He just might not live by the list > Russell > > > At 08:38 AM 31/07/2009, you wrote: >>Hi Kevin...........No response at all through SEL . I have given up >>with >>SEL ,it consists of US content mainly . Those Australians that are on it >>seem to completly absorbed in the US. >>However I have been able to contact a former member of the now defunct >>TOMMS >>Forum .This was done through a network of very good and helpful ex members >>.We are going to establish this network to help us with our questions and >>answers. If you are interested let me know and I will add your email >>address >>to the list. >>Regarding the Sunshine Engine , what information do you want, if I have it >>I >>will let you know >>regards Peter Ogborne. >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "kevin armstrong" >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:36 PM >>Subject: Re: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members >> >> >> > Hello peter, >> > Did you get a reply for this email as i have one and in need of >> > information >> > >> > regards >> > >> > Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong >> > Collectors of old things >> > Perth >> > WA >> > Australia >> > Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member >> > V.C.C. of WA. member >> > k_armstrong at arach.net.au >> > www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "peter ogborne" >> > To: >> > Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 4:41 PM >> > Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members >> > >> > >> >> Is there anyone please who is familier with this engine .It is the >> >> vertical two stroke . I would like an explanation of the governor and >> >> the >> >> carburator. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SEL mailing list >> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SEL mailing list >> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From jopeter at omninet.net.au Fri Jul 31 02:15:43 2009 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:15:43 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> <6DDD0EAF-DC45-4095-919A-DF0914874747@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <690A7A09B9F5424BB16E40C0AC6B0112@acer8ff47bfe9a> Do I detect a note of sarcasm here ........if I get the question and I know the answer I will be only too pleased to let you have the benifit of my expertise / ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members > On Jul 30, 2009, at 3:38 PM, peter ogborne wrote: > >> This was done through a network of very good and helpful ex members >> .We are going to establish this network to help us with our >> questions and >> answers. If you are interested let me know and I will add your email >> address >> to the list. > > Why not answer the question here, so we can all benefit from your > expertise, rather than making the poor bloke sign up to yet another > list, and keeping your information secret from the rest of us? > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Jul 31 06:13:43 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:13:43 -0700 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: <20090731062454.94A723045D3@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> <20090731062454.94A723045D3@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: On Jul 30, 2009, at 11:25 PM, Russell Gilbert wrote: > I thought no one answered Kerry's question because we just don't have > any interest in Crossley's or Nationals! Didn't you read, mate? The SEL is a Yank list. We don't like those stinky Pom motors. Rob P.S. I'll send you some pics of both, offlist. From oldironnut at windstream.net Fri Jul 31 07:44:29 2009 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:44:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <4F1878A2-9227-4F4A-992E-11897027D66B@windstream.net> On Jul 30, 2009, at 9:16 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > Incidentally, I've been missing a National part for quite some > time, and last Friday > came across an engine with the exact same configuration. Problem > solved. > > Rob So does "problem solved" mean that you waited until the bloke left his engine and then you stole the part that you needed? Mike From flywheelin at hotmail.com Fri Jul 31 08:42:26 2009 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:42:26 +0000 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: <4F1878A2-9227-4F4A-992E-11897027D66B@windstream.net> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> <4F1878A2-9227-4F4A-992E-11897027D66B@windstream.net> Message-ID: Mike, I don't think he stole the part. He said it had the exact same configuration, which would mean the part was also missing on the other engine. I don't get the "problem solved" part either. Maybe he shot the guy? Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ====================== > From: oldironnut at windstream.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:44:29 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] List Maners > > On Jul 30, 2009, at 9:16 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > Incidentally, I've been missing a National part for quite some > > time, and last Friday > > came across an engine with the exact same configuration. Problem > > solved. > > > > Rob > > So does "problem solved" mean that you waited until the bloke left his > engine and then you stole the part that you needed? > > Mike > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?: Search, add, and share the web?s latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Jul 31 12:01:12 2009 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:01:12 +0100 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> Message-ID: <6f6025160907311201t5e55daao2baf6762df4542e7@mail.gmail.com> 2009/7/31 Kerry : > G'Day All > > Question in general, is there a increasing lack of people getting involved > in discussion where help is asked. Hi Kerry: Crossleys and Nationals are not that common here either, apart from the smaller twin side-shaft ones and the like. As has already been mentioned by George, the whole internet community has changed since the 1990's when a lot of us first got involved. Now we have Smokstak, Facebook, untold numbers of smaller forums and so on. Most days I just don't get the time to spend on all of them, so restrict myself to the two engine lists and the 'Stak. Our own small UK engine forum also takes up a lot of admin time for me, and we seem to be growing the membership steadily. Engine-wise I have more in the workshop than ever, mainly the Ruston 1ZHR which is going to be at Nuenen next year, plus a whole load of other bits and pieces that we are playing with. We won't be at Portland this year, had to give it a miss as we had spent a small fortune on getting the house rebuild done over the winter, and the recession has taken a lot of our income away for the short term. We get to go to SFO in October though, our two adopted granddaughters are coming over for a week or so to see the USA for the first time. Regards to all, Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Jul 31 12:09:13 2009 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:09:13 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160907311209t717616a2pa273ba29ea4bc2b5@mail.gmail.com> 2009/7/30 David Rotigel : > Hi Arnie, Use : http://gallery.me.com/ > rotigel#100034&bgcolor=black&view=grid. That one seemes to be working > even on retarded puter systems! > ? ? ? ?Dave > That opens OK, Dave, but there's a line break in the url, it should be: http://gallery.me.com/rotigel#100034&bgcolor=black&view=grid Your original had two spaces before rotigel#100034 etc. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Jul 31 14:45:06 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:45:06 +0200 Subject: [SEL] List Maners Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090731202614.0224ac78@mail.atech.co.za> At 06:00 PM 31/07/2009, you wrote: >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:52:26 +1000 >From: "Kerry" >Subject: [SEL] List Maners > >G'Day All > >Question in general, is there a increasing lack of people getting involved >in discussion where help is asked. > >know I have been there on both sides, and it is frustrating in not getting >an answer (specially English Crossley and National questions). >My thoughts on reasons. >1. I know little or nothing about a particular engine but will wait for an >answer to increase my knowledge. >2. I don't care, I don't have that engine so just delete the post >3. others know better so let them answer (they have in the past). >4. last time I tried to help, I jot blasted by others, so stuff it. >5. last time I tried to help I got no reply so not wasting my time again, >6. I only read the list and seldom post even if I could help. >7. I don't like him so will not answer. >I know No5 gets up my nose, as I get a lot of questions off list, and after >digging data out and replying get no answer, I would say now 50% cannot be >bothered to even thank you. >These lists were set up to help others are we losing that. >Your thoughts >Kerry Morris >Lithgow NSW Oz Hi Kerry and Peter, (Be prepared for a marathon answer.) Very interesting and relevant thread - sorry I'm only coming in at the end but I only get the "Digest version" of SEL and by that time there are already many answers (and sometimes the thread is already dead). As most you know, I'm still a newbie to both engine collecting/restoring and the lists (it's only been about 5 years - many of you have been here from the beginning) and I do not even have any really "glamorous" engines like many of you do but I love my engines and the hobby and the people I've met through it. Yes the lists (SEL & Oldengine) are getting quieter and places like "Smokstak" are livelier (sp.?) but I will never leave these 2 lists for the simple reason that I have made so many friends on them (even if we've never met in person) and have learnt so much from the members. Being a newbie I cannot answer many of the questions asked so obviously will not reply but that does not mean that I do not read each and every post. When I find one that I can offer an answer to I do so immediately. On the other hand, when I ask questions I get lots of help from guys who are far more experienced than me and I appreciate each and every one. I also try my best to write back and say "Thanks" to everyone (sometimes all in 1 post). Now, at the risk of being "flamed". Peter (Ogborne) you were the first person who flamed me (probably deservedly) on this list but I think that we overcame that and I consider you to be a friend today so allow me to say this. Peter, you posted a question about an Aussie made engine and got no replies. Well, don't blame the list, most of us know very little about Aussie engines (I know a little about my Ronnie N and it's a great little engine but that's all I know about Aussie engines -O.K. I've also got an Aussie Southern Cross AC A Southern Cross aircooled diesel and 2 Moffat Virtues awaiting restoration) but even if someone posted a question about the Moffats I would not be able to answer as I have not worked on them yet. That's probably why you got no answers - nobody, on this list, knew the answer. Yes, you are right, most of the "active" members on this list are Yanks. Aus has a few "active" members (at a guess I'd say less than 10), Britain has probably less than 5 "active" members and then there's me in South Africa and 1 guy in New Zealand. (Note the "quotes" - I mentioned "active" members - not lurkers.) I've also posted the odd question and not had an answer but that is very definitely in the minority. I have received unbelievable help from members of these lists and in many cases that help has gone much further than simply answering an email. You Aussies helped me tremendously when I restored the Ronnie N, I had a manual posted to me, someone else posted me an original muffler at no charge (when I saw the cost of postage I felt very guilty and wrote offering to at least reimburse him for that - he refused), I had drawings, a Ronaldson & Tippet Centennial Brochure, decals, Aussie flags and more posted to me. Of course I could also never forget that it was Reg who, following a request to the lists, actually found the engine for me. and set the whole thing in motion. Today, that little Ronnie N has a very special place in my collection (and my heart). Without these lists and their members that would never have happened. I have great appreciation for all the help I received. Then when I restored the Wolseley Type "R" (most of the surviving engines are in Aus) I had just as much help from Aussie members. Again, only because I had "met" them on these lists. More recently I needed to buy some coils from ebay for a Maytag and put an urgent plea out to the lists for help. The response was overwhelming - I'm not mentioning names (you all know who you are) but so many members offered their help - this to a stranger - I just could not believe that people could be so ready to help. These guys were all from the USA. (Yanks as we so lovingly call them). Thanks to you all. (Arnie and Dave -shuddup :-) Peter, do not take what I've said as a rebuke - these are just my feelings about these lists and their members. I think that they are the most helpful and friendly bunch of guys (and girls) around. O.K. that sorts out my answer to Peter. Now to Kerry, (Your question.) "Question in general, is there a increasing lack of people getting involved in discussion where help is asked. know I have been there on both sides, and it is frustrating in not getting an answer (specially English Crossley and National questions)." (My answer): Yes I believe there is but have no answer as to why this is so. Maybe it is because there are more specialised forums dealing with particular makes of engines or problems (like Smokstak) where you can post a question or start a new thread and only those people who have the knowledge or experience of that particular engine or problem will respond. Regarding Crossley and National - bear in mind that most of these went to the British colonies - and Aus probably has more "survivors" than even Britain - there cannot be too many in the USA - Britain must still have quite a few (but these lists do not have many "active" British members), South Africa has a few but most of our collectors who have engines like that are "Old Farts" who are not members of the "computer age" and do not participate in lists like this. (Your other questions answered below - as I see the answers) "My thoughts on reasons." 1. I know little or nothing about a particular engine but will wait for an answer to increase my knowledge. (My answer). Probably "Yes". There are many posts to the lists about engines that were never seen in South Africa (or elsewhere) but I always read them and learn. I cannot participate in the discussion. 2. I don't care, I don't have that engine so just delete the post. (My answer). Similar to the last answer except that I never delete engine post - it goes into a mailbox called "Engine Stuff" for later reference if needed. If the question relates to an engine that I do not know but maybe know of someone who owns a similar engine then I will watch the thread and if answers are not forthcoming then I will offer to ask the guy that I know. 3. others know better so let them answer (they have in the past). (My answer) Yes, if I cannot add to the thread then how can I answer. 4. last time I tried to help, I jot blasted by others, so stuff it. (My answer) Hard one to answer - why did you get blasted? If I can add any value I will answer. 5. last time I tried to help I got no reply so not wasting my time again, (My answer) Yes that happens and it's very bad manners not to say "Thanks" and I agree with you - but it's not the "list", it's just one bad mannered member.(see further down) 6. I only read the list and seldom post even if I could help. (My answer) They're called lurkers :-) 7. I don't like him so will not answer. (My answer) Yes, that happens. I know No5 gets up my nose, as I get a lot of questions off list, and after digging data out and replying get no answer, I would say now 50% cannot be bothered to even thank you. (My answer) Kerry, I feel very strongly about this and I could not agree with you more on this one. Because my webpage is probably the best known (or only) one in South Africa I get 1 or 2 emails a week from people who have found "such and such" and engine and "where can they buy parts" or "how do they fix this" or "how much is it worth?". I always go to great lengths to reply and often take photo's or scan pages from manuals, supply links to sites that will help them and suchlike. Many replies take me an hour or two to do. Then the "low life" bastard does not even have the courtesy to reply and say "Thank you". Who the hell does he think he is (or who I am). I have been seriously considering putting a BIG notice on my webpage using UGLY language to tell these "Arseholes" where to get off. (Apologies to you and the list for the heavy language but I feel very strongly about this.) I will go out of my way to help anyone - is a small "thank you" note too much to expect in return ? These lists were set up to help others are we losing that. (My answer) I do not really think so but maybe we are becoming a bit lazy in this respect. For my part I do not think "we are losing that" - as mentioned, I have received so much help and knowledge from list members. Unfortunately, as a newbie, I cannot contribute much but I sure as hell have learnt a lot. Thanks to all list members for your help and friendship. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 31 15:13:52 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: <6f6025160907311201t5e55daao2baf6762df4542e7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <790370.38004.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You get to go to SFO? And you are telling all of us? I googled it and was shocked to see where you were taking them. Serious Fraud Office | Welcome to the SFO 10 Jul 2009 ... The Serious Fraud Office is a government department and is part of the UK criminal justice system. Its aim is to investigate and prosecute ... www.sfo.gov.uk/ - ? Alan --- On Fri, 7/31/09, Listerdiesel wrote: From: Listerdiesel Subject: Re: [SEL] List Maners To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 3:01 PM 2009/7/31 Kerry : > G'Day All > > Question in general, is there a increasing lack of people getting involved > in discussion where help is asked. Hi Kerry: Crossleys and Nationals are not that common here either, apart from the smaller twin side-shaft ones and the like. As has already been mentioned by George, the whole internet community has changed since the 1990's when a lot of us first got involved. Now we have Smokstak, Facebook, untold numbers of smaller forums and so on. Most days I just don't get the time to spend on all of them, so restrict myself to the two engine lists and the 'Stak. Our own small UK engine forum also takes up a lot of admin time for me, and we seem to be growing the membership steadily. Engine-wise I have more in the workshop than ever, mainly the Ruston 1ZHR which is going to be at Nuenen next year, plus a whole load of other bits and pieces that we are playing with. We won't be at Portland this year, had to give it a miss as we had spent a small fortune on getting the house rebuild done over the winter, and the recession has taken a lot of our income away for the short term. We get to go to SFO in October though, our two adopted granddaughters are coming over for a week or so to see the USA for the first time. Regards to all, Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Jul 31 15:48:18 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 08:48:18 +1000 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> <4F1878A2-9227-4F4A-992E-11897027D66B@windstream.net> Message-ID: <20090731224807.B0098FC0AE@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> Luke Kerry's not big on guns. mmmm I'm thinking he may have pushed him down a mine shaft before he retired! Russell At 01:42 AM 1/08/2009, you wrote: >Mike, > > > >I don't think he stole the part. He said it had >the exact same configuration, which would mean >the part was also missing on the other engine. I >don't get the "problem solved" part either. Maybe he shot the guy? > >Luke Tonneberger > >Rockford, Michigan > >USA > >====================== > > > From: oldironnut at windstream.net > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:44:29 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [SEL] List Maners > > > > On Jul 30, 2009, at 9:16 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > > Incidentally, I've been missing a National part for quite some > > > time, and last Friday > > > came across an engine with the exact same configuration. Problem > > > solved. > > > > > > Rob > > > > So does "problem solved" mean that you waited until the bloke left his > > engine and then you stole the part that you needed? > > > > Mike > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Windows Live? Hotmail?: Search, add, and share >the web?s latest sports videos. Check it out. >http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Jul 31 16:19:39 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:19:39 -0700 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: <4F1878A2-9227-4F4A-992E-11897027D66B@windstream.net> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> <4F1878A2-9227-4F4A-992E-11897027D66B@windstream.net> Message-ID: <88BFBA6B-9F81-4BC6-A925-3758D0841D12@rustyiron.com> On Jul 31, 2009, at 7:44 AM, Michael Tucker wrote: > > So does "problem solved" mean that you waited until the bloke left his > engine and then you stole the part that you needed? > > Mike Mr. Tucker, if you ever pack up that lovely unwrinkled lass and head west of the Colorado, you will find that trustworthiness, loyalty, helpfulness, friendliness, courtesy, kindness, obedience, cheerfulness, thriftiness, bravery, cleanliness and reverence are qualities that are respected, valued, and adhered to by the majority of the population. From plowe at exemail.com.au Fri Jul 31 17:32:47 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:32:47 +1000 Subject: [SEL] List Maners References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090731202614.0224ac78@mail.atech.co.za> Message-ID: <1E42973CD20B4AC28B36DE68AC301756@peterlowe> > Hi Kerry and Peter, > (Be prepared for a marathon answer.) > Very interesting and relevant thread - sorry I'm only coming in at > the end but I only get the "Digest version" of SEL and by that time there > are already many answers (and sometimes the thread is already dead). Hi Jerry Well said mate. As a so called Newbie I can vouch that you have been more than active in helping where you can and it has been a pleasure in helping you where I can. I have been a List member for over 10 years, back in the Indiana.edu days. We have had our spats, our way off topic subjects, our rants and raves. As has been said, there are other forums also which reduce traffic. I run the International R&V Engine Register and the help from those guys is fantastic, when they get slack I give them a rev. Society in general is giving less of a stuff these days, not just the various forums, too much apathy in general. Recently I asked if anyone had an ignitor trip for my Stover KA, right away Ron Haskell stepped in, he had a spare for sale at a very reasonable price. I asked for help with the spark plug type, Curt Andree and others came back with the answer and offers of supplying. For those interested, the answer was Champion W14. Both question were not flooded with answers, but those who knew the answers or could help, did. and I am very appreciative to all concerned. The rest of the conversations were done OFF LIST. I make a habit of thanking all that post to me, if I occasionally miss someone then it was not intentional I can assure you. Some people sit of their computers all day and expect an answer immediately, well some of us work, some go to Shows, so be patient. I only go to SmokStak very occassionally, Patrick Livingstone has been very helpful in watching out for R&V adverts and questions for me of which I am also very appreciative. So all in all, I am very happy with BOTH LISTS. I always GOOGLE things I want to know first, if nothing shows up that I go to the LISTS. Kerry, if I knew about Crossley and National I would be first to help mate, but I don't., sorry ;-)) My $0.02 worth. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines From jopeter at omninet.net.au Fri Jul 31 18:30:46 2009 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 09:30:46 +0800 Subject: [SEL] List manners Message-ID: <05B17FB0ABAB46F1B79BEE3CF0D8D3D0@acer8ff47bfe9a> Jerry can I slip this in while you take breath? I dont feel that i was complaining mearly telling a fellow member who was asking me a question that I was not getting anywhere with SEL.on that particular question. Yes I had got back a couple of answers ,one from Kerry and one from Reg Ingold ,both appreciated but unfortunately not leading to any further help. As I have said I have through a ''Network'' obtained the help that I desired. I appreciate that if anyone on SEL had been able to help they would have Having said that I do feel that the SEL is not what it used to be .......of course the replies to that statement will go somewhere else! An interesting dilema arises ......should I quote an answer on SEL that is attributed to a non SEL member. I suppose if I re word it it is ethical....what do you think? From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Jul 31 20:02:31 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:02:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <186752d04c50e5674c009889901dadd3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <3d9b80d59fa4c3d516990ee1ea547a13.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Ahhh, a vampire then. Like True Blood perhaps? On Fri, July 31, 2009 1:09 am, Rob Skinner wrote: > On Jul 30, 2009, at 7:24 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > >> Who's Veronica? Was she hot? Did SHE use IE 6.0? >> Is that what killed her? > > Yes, I suppose it could be said that Internet Explorer helped hammer > the last nail into Veronica's coffin. From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Jul 31 20:35:33 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: <4F1878A2-9227-4F4A-992E-11897027D66B@windstream.net> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> <4F1878A2-9227-4F4A-992E-11897027D66B@windstream.net> Message-ID: No Mike, he couldn't. Remember that Rob said that the second engine he found was the same configuration as his; i.e. missing the SAME PART. 8-)) See ya, Arnie On Fri, July 31, 2009 10:44 am, Michael Tucker wrote: > On Jul 30, 2009, at 9:16 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: >> Incidentally, I've been missing a National part for quite some >> time, and last Friday >> came across an engine with the exact same configuration. Problem >> solved. >> Rob > > So does "problem solved" mean that you waited until the bloke left his > engine and then you stole the part that you needed? > > Mike From page at velocitynet.com.au Wed Jul 1 00:30:59 2009 From: page at velocitynet.com.au (Ron Page) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:30:59 +1000 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road In-Reply-To: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <003d01c9fa1d$e12feda0$6c3bfea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> Hi Russell The times I have driven in the US I found that sitting in the left sit and driving on the RH side of the road the most natural of situations and had no problems with the turns or entries to freeways. The only piece of advice I was given before going over there was to think about the inside rear vision mirror - we automatically look up to the left, over there you have to think up to the right. Best advice I was given. Ron Canberra -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell Gilbert Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 8:36 AM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road G'day All, just asking for some thoughts of those who may be in the know. We are still planing (trying to at least) our road trip from Chicago to Buffalo, back to Detroit, Across the lake on the ferry to Baraboo!. I have had plenty say driving is easy because of all the great roads/freeways. We have plenty of time to poke about have a sticky nose at all kinds of things. Saying this I'm sure these great roads by-pass many great points of interest. Anyone having some suggestion on when to take a left or right hand turn off the freeways to perhaps pass by some good old looking towns etc please feel free to contact us off list russell at ncable.com.au PS: thanks to Arnie we have a great collection of maps and travel planers and continually check them over. Just always good to hear from some of the locals? regards Russell _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Wed Jul 1 01:38:25 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:38:25 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Twin cylinder Bartram In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The twin cylinder Bartram belongs to a fellow collector. I have a single cylinder 5hp Bartram. http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Graphics/bartrtamt1.JPG The twin cylinder engine is made up of two 5hp cylinders on a common crank. Bartram engines were made for J Bartram & Son, Melbourne by Kelly & Lewis. > Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Jul 1 03:30:18 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 06:30:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Zippers References: <410-2200973133048343@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <002b01c9fa36$ee80b480$83674b47@mikecomp> I'll be there. Bring the twin! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Christoff" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Zippers > Too late Steve, my eyes have now been opened to whatever that thing was > that you so lovingly call Zippers. I must say Dude, get some help! That > is nasty. Though I can see one good side to it, just think of the all > around coverage you can get from that, provided both halfs can work > independently of one another. Mike, untarp those engines and bring them > to > Portland and we can work a deal, your brother seems to be "Split" on lifes > choices. > > Tim > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Steve Royster >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Date: 6/30/2009 11:41:13 AM >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Zippers >> >> >> I claim temporary amnesia and hope no one on the EHOWT trip has pictures > to prove otherwise! Steve >> >> >> >> >> >> > From: tchristoff at earthlink.net >> > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:13:15 -0500 >> > Subject: Re: [SEL] Zippers >> > >> > >> > What say you Steve? >> > >> > > [Original Message] >> > > From: Arnie Fero >> > > To: The SEL email discussion list >> > > Date: 6/27/2009 10:48:57 AM >> > > >> > > What happened in Belgium, stays in Belgium. Now if Steve wants to >> > > post >> > pics... >> > > >> > > >> > >> > Tim >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SEL mailing list >> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. >> > http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria > l_Storage_062009 >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From flywheelin at hotmail.com Wed Jul 1 04:22:17 2009 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:22:17 +0000 Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT In-Reply-To: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop> References: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop> Message-ID: I've seen that one before......... I ran across this one yesterday and was the first time I heard it....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqXZt0aQvvM Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ============================ > From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:06:50 -0400 > Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > Off topic, but just worthwhile... > > http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094 > > > Jim in Vermont > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jul 1 04:40:38 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:40:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road In-Reply-To: <1D2AA3BA-7C0B-4127-ABFC-93655EFD95A3@me.com> References: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <1D2AA3BA-7C0B-4127-ABFC-93655EFD95A3@me.com> Message-ID: <20090701114035.90F23FC18A@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> Dave it reminds me of a few thoughts I have had since planing the trip! I was wondering just what plan of action I should take if I was to accidently drive down the WRONG street into a non friendly neighborhood. I might need to come buy your place to freshen up my self defence skills before wondering off into the great big US of A! At 09:25 AM 1/07/2009, you wrote: >Hi Russ, Be sure to stop by Cody 9th Grade Academy while in Detriot. I >understand that thinge are wild there from time to time! (See: >http://freep.com/article/20090630/NEWS01/90630050/Gunfire+wounds+7+Detroit+teens++3+critically) > Dave > >On Jun 30, 2009, at 6:36 PM, Russell Gilbert wrote: > > > G'day All, just asking for some thoughts of those who may be in the > > know. We are still planing (trying to at least) our road trip from > > Chicago to Buffalo, back to Detroit, Across the lake on the ferry to > > Baraboo!. I have had plenty say driving is easy because of all the > > great roads/freeways. We have plenty of time to poke about have a > > sticky nose at all kinds of things. Saying this I'm sure these great > > roads by-pass many great points of interest. Anyone having some > > suggestion on when to take a left or right hand turn off the freeways > > to perhaps pass by some good old looking towns etc please feel free > > to contact us off list russell at ncable.com.au > > > > PS: thanks to Arnie we have a great collection of maps and travel > > planers and continually check them over. Just always good to hear > > from some of the locals? > > > > regards Russell >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jul 1 04:46:40 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:46:40 +1000 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20090630200311.0c2e7840@ncweb.com> References: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <5.2.0.9.0.20090630200311.0c2e7840@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <20090701114635.144CA198835@gex-cn01.ncable.net.au> Thanks Dave, just the kind of response we were hoping for. Some good ideas there and will give us some more searching on google etc. I Helen is reading; I have been trying to con Carmel into doing the white water rafting thing! She recons she will stay home if we are gonna do that :-( bOO hOO Keep em coming if you wish. Cheers, Russ At 10:43 AM 1/07/2009, you wrote: >Depending on the timing, there are a lot of shows all over the place >at this time of year. Many people focus on the big event shows, >but there's usually something interesting at even the smaller ones. > >Also, many shows spill back into midweek, so you don't need to >catch them on a weekend. > >One item is to take the coal fired steam ferry from Ludington >to Manitowoc, instead of the shiny new boring one to Baraboo, >although the big circus museum in Baraboo is worthwhile. > >On the west edge of Manitowoc is the Manitowoc crane factory >and training facility, with always a bunch of ginormous machines >sitting out to look at...ie, a lowboy trailer filled with a single crawler >track. >Their licensed toy store is there too, where you can spend big $$$ easily. > >Also depending on the time you have allotted, you could do the >Lake Erie Circle Tour, which circles the lake shore on very well >paved 2-lane roads near the lake shore. You can make good time >on these roads, with plenty of scenery all along the way. >The tour route is designated and marked with signs. >Note that the Great Lakes are not lakes in the usual sense, >but big freshwater seas. There are wineries all along >the Lake Erie shore, especially east of Erie. > >If you're into railroads, one of the busiest, fastest, and highest >tonnage main lines in the world runs from Chicago to Buffalo, >ex New York Central, always within a couple miles of the lake, >paralleled by a second, more picturesque line, ex Nickel Plate. > >There are a series of lake ports along the Ohio shore where you >can see really old freighters, some still steam, or diesel conversions >that still use steam for the winches and auxiliaries. The oldest, >homeported Milwaukee, is from 1906, the second oldest >is from 1929, and many are from the 1940's. > >Toledo has a lake freighter museum from the 1920's, Cleveland >has a WW-II sub in unmodified condition, and a lake freighter >from 1926, Erie has the Brig Niagara, unless it is out on tour, >and a big machinery museum, and Buffalo has a naval museum >with 3 good ships. Just west of the city dock in Erie is an old >water works, with one of the original big triple expansion steam >pumping engines still there to see, although not "presented". > >North of Buffalo, is the Welland canal, which has plenty >of both laker and salties traffic. > >This is quite a list, and barely scratches the surface. > >Have fun! >Dave Merchant > > >At 06:36 PM 6/30/2009, Russell Gilbert wrote: > >G'day All, just asking for some thoughts of those who may be in the > >know. We are still planing (trying to at least) our road trip from > >Chicago to Buffalo, back to Detroit, Across the lake on the ferry to > >Baraboo!. I have had plenty say driving is easy because of all the > >great roads/freeways. We have plenty of time to poke about have a > >sticky nose at all kinds of things. Saying this I'm sure these great > >roads by-pass many great points of interest. Anyone having some > >suggestion on when to take a left or right hand turn off the freeways > >to perhaps pass by some good old looking towns etc please feel free > >to contact us off list russell at ncable.com.au > > > >PS: thanks to Arnie we have a great collection of maps and travel > >planers and continually check them over. Just always good to hear > >from some of the locals? > > > >regards Russell > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >Dave Merchant >kosh at nesys.com >nesys_com at ameritech.net >dmerchant at layerzero.com > >http://www.nesys.com >http://www.nesys.org >YouTube: SteamCrane > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edstoller at earthlink.net Wed Jul 1 04:55:54 2009 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:55:54 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Connecticut show References: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <8CBC80D863E48D0-16F8-1E6C@Webmail-mg20.sim.aol.com> Message-ID: <4294209CE86F484683ED6BE9DDDE232C@Ed> I don't see it on my Yankee Show List, 2009. Snail mail them: Nutmeg State Flywheelers P.O. Box 6164 Wolcott, CT 07616 Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Connecticut show > ?There will be an engine and tractor?show at Bethany airport?July 10-12.? > We are trying to get a large group of antique lawn and garden stuff.?There > is plenty of room.??This show is not in the show directory. > > ? > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From fbi at insulate.co.uk Wed Jul 1 06:46:27 2009 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:46:27 +0100 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road In-Reply-To: <20090701114635.144CA198835@gex-cn01.ncable.net.au> References: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <5.2.0.9.0.20090630200311.0c2e7840@ncweb.com> <20090701114635.144CA198835@gex-cn01.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <4A4B68B3.3040405@insulate.co.uk> Hi Russell Tell her it's great fun. Especially when everyone else falls in the water!!! On our last trip, one woman insisted on being taken to the shore so she could get out because she was getting WET! Can you believe it? Sometimes you just have to be a little adventurous, and it was a treat for our boys in return for them putting up with a lot of engines during the trip. Dolly Russell Gilbert wrote: > I Helen is reading; I have been trying to con Carmel into doing the > white water rafting thing! She recons she will stay home if we are > gonna do that :-( bOO hOO > > -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Jul 1 07:59:42 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:59:42 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road In-Reply-To: <20090701114035.90F23FC18A@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> References: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <1D2AA3BA-7C0B-4127-ABFC-93655EFD95A3@me.com> <20090701114035.90F23FC18A@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <41E77DF9-B783-4445-99A1-D9CE143B8332@rustyiron.com> Russ watches a lot of movies, he does. But if it makes you and the missus feel better, we can hook you up with parachutes and scary black rifles. Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com On Jul 1, 2009, at 4:40 AM, Russell Gilbert wrote: > Dave it reminds me of a few thoughts I have had since planing the > trip! I was wondering just what plan of action I should take if I was > to accidently drive down the WRONG street into a non friendly > neighborhood. I might need to come buy your place to freshen up my > self defence skills before wondering off into the great big US of A! From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Wed Jul 1 09:20:10 2009 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:20:10 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Pictures from 1000 egine at Astle Park & Ansons Museum Message-ID: <004301c9fa67$d13e5b30$42920556@intrepid> Last weekend. see http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ullerman/1000Engine09# for the show & http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ullerman/AnsonMuseum09# for a little of the museum. The museum has increased quite a lot in the last year. Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From rotigel at me.com Wed Jul 1 10:51:44 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:51:44 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road In-Reply-To: <20090701114035.90F23FC18A@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> References: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <1D2AA3BA-7C0B-4127-ABFC-93655EFD95A3@me.com> <20090701114035.90F23FC18A@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: Hi Russ, I can provide everything you need. There are two problems, however. First, in most states in the USA you cannot get a concealed carry permit if you are a foreign national here for only a short time. Second, since you have little current experience in marksmenship, you probably should be armed with an auto piece. Not to worry, however, for there is a solution to these problems. While it is true that here in the USA YOU will not be able to get a CC permit, YOU can carry OPENLY in most places. (This is because we still have freedom here and can even drive on the right side of the road!) The second problem is also easily solved. We will outfit you with a MAC 10 with a sling on it! You put the sling over your shoulder and the piece is in the open and thus you are breaking no laws! Dave PS, Seriously, you will have no problem here in the USA. Stay out of the inner cities and you will find EVERYONE friendly and helpful! PPS, You aren't going to Kansas, are you? There is a farmer there (who has a 16 year old daughter and a 2 year old grandchild) who is still looking for some guy with a funny accent and and bad knees from OZ. He would probably NOT be too friendly! On Jul 1, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Russell Gilbert wrote: > Dave it reminds me of a few thoughts I have had since planing the > trip! I was wondering just what plan of action I should take if I was > to accidently drive down the WRONG street into a non friendly > neighborhood. I might need to come buy your place to freshen up my > self defence skills before wondering off into the great big US of A! > > At 09:25 AM 1/07/2009, you wrote: >> Hi Russ, Be sure to stop by Cody 9th Grade Academy while in >> Detriot. I >> understand that thinge are wild there from time to time! (See: >> http://freep.com/article/20090630/NEWS01/90630050/Gunfire+wounds+7+Detroit+teens++3+critically) >> Dave >> >> On Jun 30, 2009, at 6:36 PM, Russell Gilbert wrote: >> >>> G'day All, just asking for some thoughts of those who may be in the >>> know. We are still planing (trying to at least) our road trip from >>> Chicago to Buffalo, back to Detroit, Across the lake on the ferry to >>> Baraboo!. I have had plenty say driving is easy because of all the >>> great roads/freeways. We have plenty of time to poke about have a >>> sticky nose at all kinds of things. Saying this I'm sure these >>> great >>> roads by-pass many great points of interest. Anyone having some >>> suggestion on when to take a left or right hand turn off the >>> freeways >>> to perhaps pass by some good old looking towns etc please feel free >>> to contact us off list russell at ncable.com.au >>> >>> PS: thanks to Arnie we have a great collection of maps and travel >>> planers and continually check them over. Just always good to hear >>> from some of the locals? >>> >>> regards Russell >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From Germoamer at aol.com Wed Jul 1 11:20:48 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:20:48 EDT Subject: [SEL] Pictures from 1000 egine at Astle Park & Ansons Museum Message-ID: Dave, Some great looking engines there! Thanks, Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************Dell Laptops: Huge Savings on Popular Laptops ? Deals starting at $399(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222883570x1201497211/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D0) From mr at carolina.rr.com Wed Jul 1 15:29:57 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:29:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT References: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop> Message-ID: <000d01c9fa9b$773f93e0$83674b47@mikecomp> Where have you been???? This is over a year old. Obviously you been listening to that devil hippie rock and roll nonsense!!! Come on over to country boy!!!! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Tonneberger" To: "Engine List" Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT I've seen that one before......... I ran across this one yesterday and was the first time I heard it....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqXZt0aQvvM Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ============================ > From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:06:50 -0400 > Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > Off topic, but just worthwhile... > > http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094 > > > Jim in Vermont > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jul 1 15:50:15 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 08:50:15 +1000 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road In-Reply-To: <41E77DF9-B783-4445-99A1-D9CE143B8332@rustyiron.com> References: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <1D2AA3BA-7C0B-4127-ABFC-93655EFD95A3@me.com> <20090701114035.90F23FC18A@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> <41E77DF9-B783-4445-99A1-D9CE143B8332@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <20090701225008.93D3E3181D7@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Hey Rob LOLROF :-) Mate I was thinking I will have to find some place to go (like Nasty Daves!) and get dressed in some war paint, drive down the road in his red truck and have some photo's of us having fun with a makeshift drive by! Imagin the mileage I can get with some happy snaps back home then. Russ At 12:59 AM 2/07/2009, you wrote: >Russ watches a lot of movies, he does. But if it makes you and the >missus feel better, we can hook you up with parachutes and scary black >rifles. > > >Rob Skinner >Antique Stationary Engines >La Habra, California > >rob at rustyiron.com >www.rustyiron.com > > > > > >On Jul 1, 2009, at 4:40 AM, Russell Gilbert wrote: > > > Dave it reminds me of a few thoughts I have had since planing the > > trip! I was wondering just what plan of action I should take if I was > > to accidently drive down the WRONG street into a non friendly > > neighborhood. I might need to come buy your place to freshen up my > > self defence skills before wondering off into the great big US of A! > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mathjr at optusnet.com.au Wed Jul 1 22:48:14 2009 From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au (Renee Mathieson) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:48:14 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Mogul 4H.P. Message-ID: Can anyone tell me how much a 4 H.P. hopper cooled IHC Mogul on transport weighs please? Cheers John From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com Wed Jul 1 23:54:58 2009 From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:54:58 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Mogul 4H.P. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi John, going by my book the shipping weight for a 4hp portable mogul is 1950lbs,cheers Dave ps the breather is on its way to me. > From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:48:14 +1000 > Subject: [SEL] Mogul 4H.P. > > Can anyone tell me how much a 4 H.P. hopper cooled IHC Mogul on transport weighs please? Cheers John > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Looking for a new car this winter? Let us help with car news, reviews and more http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT From mathjr at optusnet.com.au Thu Jul 2 02:58:38 2009 From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au (Renee Mathieson) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:58:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Mogul 4H.P. References: Message-ID: <774752C95FCA4A56B23E082A223D8839@lightning> HiDave, Thanks on both counts. I drove past your place last Monday but it looked deserted. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Nicolson" To: "sel list" Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Mogul 4H.P. > > Hi John, going by my book the shipping weight for a 4hp portable mogul is > 1950lbs,cheers Dave ps the breather is on its way to me. > >> From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:48:14 +1000 >> Subject: [SEL] Mogul 4H.P. >> >> Can anyone tell me how much a 4 H.P. hopper cooled IHC Mogul on transport >> weighs please? Cheers John >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Looking for a new car this winter? Let us help with car news, reviews and > more > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From flywheelin at hotmail.com Thu Jul 2 04:56:18 2009 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:56:18 +0000 Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT In-Reply-To: <000d01c9fa9b$773f93e0$83674b47@mikecomp> References: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop> <000d01c9fa9b$773f93e0$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: Maybe it's a sign I'm beginning to get old :-) Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ==================== > From: mr at carolina.rr.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:29:57 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > Where have you been???? This is over a year old. Obviously you been > listening to that devil hippie rock and roll nonsense!!! Come on over to > country boy!!!! > > MR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Luke Tonneberger" > To: "Engine List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:22 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > I've seen that one before......... > > > > I ran across this one yesterday and was the first time I heard it....... > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqXZt0aQvvM > > Luke Tonneberger > > Rockford, Michigan > > USA > > ============================ > > > From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:06:50 -0400 > > Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > Off topic, but just worthwhile... > > > > http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094 > > > > > > Jim in Vermont _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Thu Jul 2 05:09:16 2009 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (R & M Ingold) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:09:16 +1000 Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT References: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop> <000d01c9fa9b$773f93e0$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <0569201AAA904827B35A1B9AE9015676@REG> Surely not!!? Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Tonneberger" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT Maybe it's a sign I'm beginning to get old :-) Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ==================== > From: mr at carolina.rr.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:29:57 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > Where have you been???? This is over a year old. Obviously you been > listening to that devil hippie rock and roll nonsense!!! Come on over to > country boy!!!! > > MR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Luke Tonneberger" > To: "Engine List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:22 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > I've seen that one before......... > > > > I ran across this one yesterday and was the first time I heard it....... > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqXZt0aQvvM > > Luke Tonneberger > > Rockford, Michigan > > USA > > ============================ > > > From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:06:50 -0400 > > Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > Off topic, but just worthwhile... > > > > http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094 > > > > > > Jim in Vermont _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From k_armstrong at arach.net.au Thu Jul 2 05:11:48 2009 From: k_armstrong at arach.net.au (kevin armstrong) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:11:48 +0800 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road References: <003d01c9fa1d$e12feda0$6c3bfea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> Message-ID: <761F3E379C8C4846A3BFAE396C6B3E4E@armstrong> Ron, Sit on the right hand side and let someone else drive (you know who), this would allow you to be able to point out all the things to see of interest and advise how to drive etc Been there done that Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong Collectors of old things Perth WA Australia Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member V.C.C. of WA. member k_armstrong at arach.net.au www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Page" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road > Hi Russell > > The times I have driven in the US I found that sitting in the left sit and > driving on the RH side of the road the most natural of situations and had > no > problems with the turns or entries to freeways. The only piece of advice > I > was given before going over there was to think about the inside rear > vision > mirror - we automatically look up to the left, over there you have to > think > up to the right. Best advice I was given. > > Ron > Canberra > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell > Gilbert > Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 8:36 AM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road > > G'day All, just asking for some thoughts of those who may be in the > know. We are still planing (trying to at least) our road trip from > Chicago to Buffalo, back to Detroit, Across the lake on the ferry to > Baraboo!. I have had plenty say driving is easy because of all the > great roads/freeways. We have plenty of time to poke about have a > sticky nose at all kinds of things. Saying this I'm sure these great > roads by-pass many great points of interest. Anyone having some > suggestion on when to take a left or right hand turn off the freeways > to perhaps pass by some good old looking towns etc please feel free > to contact us off list russell at ncable.com.au > > PS: thanks to Arnie we have a great collection of maps and travel > planers and continually check them over. Just always good to hear > from some of the locals? > > regards Russell > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Thu Jul 2 10:24:54 2009 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:24:54 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road Message-ID: "PPS, You aren't going to Kansas, are you? There is a farmer there (who has a 16 year old daughter and a 2 year old grandchild) who is still looking for some guy with a funny accent and and bad knees from OZ. He would probably NOT be too friendly!"No worries, Mate - I am currently in Colorado! That grandchild DOES look a lot like you, though. Damned unfortunate, too, as she is a girl. Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD, or Kansas, or Texas, or Colorado. Now and then Missouri, rarely Illinois. sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009 From jneth3 at mac.com Thu Jul 2 12:32:11 2009 From: jneth3 at mac.com (John Neth) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:32:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] engine in wheel Message-ID: <157939651343864266096388292858157080620-Webmail@me.com> A tractor collector friend just stopped by with a request. Someone asked him about the value of a garden tractor with an engine in the tire. He thinks the engine may be hit and miss as it had a magneto. Any ideas of what it is or where to look for information. Thanks John John W. Neth III 228 Old Milligan Highway Johnson City, TN 37601 423-434-0978 or 634 Elm St. Groveport, OH 43125-1216 614-836-3465 From james.kangas at timken.com Thu Jul 2 12:49:18 2009 From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:49:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Mogul 4H.P. References: Message-ID: It's interesting to see how times change. They call an engine that weighs almost a ton"portable". Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of David Nicolson Sent: Thu 7/2/2009 2:54 AM To: sel list Subject: Re: [SEL] Mogul 4H.P. Hi John, going by my book the shipping weight for a 4hp portable mogul is 1950lbs,cheers Dave ps the breather is on its way to me. > From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:48:14 +1000 > Subject: [SEL] Mogul 4H.P. > > Can anyone tell me how much a 4 H.P. hopper cooled IHC Mogul on transport weighs please? Cheers John > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Looking for a new car this winter? 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The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation From dtallman at accnorwalk.com Thu Jul 2 13:11:46 2009 From: dtallman at accnorwalk.com (Doug Tallman) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:11:46 -0400 Subject: [SEL] engine in wheel In-Reply-To: <157939651343864266096388292858157080620-Webmail@me.com> References: <157939651343864266096388292858157080620-Webmail@me.com> Message-ID: <4A4D1482.8020006@accnorwalk.com> John, sounds like it is probably a Kinkaid built by American Farm Machinery Corp. I'd need to see a picture to be sure. They made 5 different models and 4 had external mags. None were hit and miss governed. Doug Tallman John Neth wrote: > A tractor collector friend just stopped by with a request. Someone asked him about the value of a garden tractor with an engine in the tire. He thinks the engine may be hit and miss as it had a magneto. Any ideas of what it is or where to look for information. > > Thanks John > > > John W. Neth III > > 228 Old Milligan Highway > Johnson City, TN 37601 > 423-434-0978 > > > or > 634 Elm St. > Groveport, OH 43125-1216 > 614-836-3465 > _______________________________________________ > > From Germoamer at aol.com Thu Jul 2 13:48:00 2009 From: Germoamer at aol.com (Germoamer at aol.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:48:00 EDT Subject: [SEL] Mogul 4H.P. Message-ID: In a message dated 7/2/2009 3:55:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, james.kangas at timken.com writes: It's interesting to see how times change. They call an engine that weighs almost a ton"portable". The "old people" were strong workers and not referred to as FATG. Tom Schmutz Concord, Va. germoamer at AOL.com **************Dell Summer Savings: Cool Deals on Popular Laptops ? Shop Now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222696924x1201468348/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D1) From gastzt at aol.com Thu Jul 2 16:48:46 2009 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:48:46 EDT Subject: [SEL] engine in wheel Message-ID: Doug-- are you by some chance kin to a Pat Tallman in San Antonio>>>? Also I think I have one of those little garden plow things----engine in the wheel---will have to go see---too dang hot right now ha! Stan Zettner Old Stovers Pleasanton, Tx **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005) From jopeter at omninet.net.au Fri Jul 3 01:41:40 2009 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:41:40 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members Message-ID: Is there anyone please who is familier with this engine .It is the vertical two stroke . I would like an explanation of the governor and the carburator. From dtallman at accnorwalk.com Fri Jul 3 04:25:35 2009 From: dtallman at accnorwalk.com (Doug Tallman) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:25:35 -0400 Subject: [SEL] engine in wheel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A4DEAAF.4030002@accnorwalk.com> No relation that I know of, Stan. There was also another engine in the wheel cultivator called a Unitractor. It just used a Briggs engine mounted on rollers inside the wheel and drove with a belt. The Kinkaid units were built into the drive. Doug T gastzt at aol.com wrote: > Doug-- are you by some chance kin to a Pat Tallman in San Antonio>>>? > Also I think I have one of those little garden plow things----engine in > the wheel---will have to go see---too dang hot right now ha! > Stan Zettner > Old Stovers > Pleasanton, Tx > > From jdohagan at comcast.net Fri Jul 3 09:57:07 2009 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:57:07 -0700 Subject: [SEL] on line manuals Message-ID: <20090703165703.BF4F265B5A5@in02.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Happy holidays everyone. There was someone a while back that put a lot of manuals on line .Is it still available? I need the procedure for timing the magneto on a overstrike model international 1 ? horse ?M? . .Oh! while I?m here does anyone know of a source for medium size ?pot? mufflers? I could use one with a 2 ?? pipe intake. Thanks in advance for any help. Jimmy O?Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato,Ca. USA. Jim O'Hagan From mr at carolina.rr.com Fri Jul 3 10:07:55 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:07:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT References: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop> <000d01c9fa9b$773f93e0$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <007f01c9fc00$d3665b70$83674b47@mikecomp> Naaaaa, I bet with Brooke in the car you know every children's song there is!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Tonneberger" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT Maybe it's a sign I'm beginning to get old :-) Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ==================== > From: mr at carolina.rr.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:29:57 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > Where have you been???? This is over a year old. Obviously you been > listening to that devil hippie rock and roll nonsense!!! Come on over to > country boy!!!! > > MR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Luke Tonneberger" > To: "Engine List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:22 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > I've seen that one before......... > > > > I ran across this one yesterday and was the first time I heard it....... > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqXZt0aQvvM > > Luke Tonneberger > > Rockford, Michigan > > USA > > ============================ > > > From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:06:50 -0400 > > Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > Off topic, but just worthwhile... > > > > http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094 > > > > > > Jim in Vermont _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Fri Jul 3 10:21:49 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:21:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Pictures from 1000 egine at Astle Park & Ansons Museum References: <004301c9fa67$d13e5b30$42920556@intrepid> Message-ID: <008f01c9fc02$bfd17840$83674b47@mikecomp> Great pictures Dave! Having just completed the EHOWT I was glad to see some engines in your photos we got to see in person. Real beauties. Mike Royster ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Croft" To: "atis" Cc: "Oldengine.org" Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:20 PM Subject: Pictures from 1000 egine at Astle Park & Ansons Museum > Last weekend. see http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ullerman/1000Engine09# > for the show & > http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ullerman/AnsonMuseum09# > for a little of the museum. > The museum has increased quite a lot in the last year. > Dave Croft > Warrington > http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > > > To UN-subscribe, send a message to: > > stationary-engine-request at oldengine.org > with: > unsubscribe > in the subject of the message. Nothing else, no SIGs, etc. From kosh at ncweb.com Fri Jul 3 23:34:50 2009 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:34:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rumsey Gas Engine, Binghamton NY - YouTube Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20090704011714.0cca3d50@ncweb.com> Spent some quality time with a 12 hp Rumsey-Williams vertical portable today. Built by Rumsey Gas Engine, Binghamton NY, apparently late 1890's. Owner claims there are a total of 2 of these, the other is a 6 hp. Fascinating engine, with the entire portable carriage cast integral with the crank, beautiful sweeping casting. The valve + firing mechanicals are a bit different too... It looks slightly small to be a 12 hp, but that's how it's labeled. This is at the Ashtabula County engine show, Wayne Ohio. Guy will be there Saturday, but not Sunday as he's Amish, but I believe he plans to leave the engine there, and may get somebody to run it for him. Here are 2 YouTubes of it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uokwyDBy1xo&feature=channel_page http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6uFeqEdWDw&feature=channel_page Planning to go out there again Saturday, hopefully the light will be better. This just might be the most beautiful engine I've ever seen, your mileage may vary. Dave Merchant Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From kosh at ncweb.com Sat Jul 4 00:19:36 2009 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 03:19:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rumsey Gas Engine, Binghamton NY - YouTube Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20090704031931.0b839ec0@ncweb.com> Spent some quality time with a 12 hp Rumsey-Williams vertical portable today. Built by Rumsey Gas Engine, Binghamton NY, apparently late 1890's. Owner claims there are a total of 2 of these, the other is a 6 hp. Fascinating engine, with the entire portable carriage cast integral with the crank, beautiful sweeping casting. The valve + firing mechanicals are a bit different too... It looks slightly small to be a 12 hp, but that's how it's labeled. This is at the Ashtabula County engine show, Wayne Ohio. Guy will be there Saturday, but not Sunday as he's Amish, but I believe he plans to leave the engine there, and may get somebody to run it for him. Here are 2 YouTubes of it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uokwyDBy1xo&feature=channel_page http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6uFeqEdWDw&feature=channel_page Planning to go out there again Saturday, hopefully the light will be better. This just might be the most beautiful engine I've ever seen, your mileage may vary. Dave Merchant Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From rob at rustyiron.com Sat Jul 4 07:06:56 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 07:06:56 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Rumsey Gas Engine, Binghamton NY - YouTube In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20090704011714.0cca3d50@ncweb.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090704011714.0cca3d50@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <7A32B45E-17EB-40FD-9FCB-1D8979F3D390@rustyiron.com> That "unibody" design sure is an attention grabber. Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com On Jul 3, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Dave Merchant wrote: > Spent some quality time with a 12 hp Rumsey-Williams vertical > portable today. From steve_royster at hotmail.com Sat Jul 4 09:33:09 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 12:33:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Rumsey Gas Engine, Binghamton NY - YouTube In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20090704031931.0b839ec0@ncweb.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090704031931.0b839ec0@ncweb.com> Message-ID: Hi Dave, Thanks for posting those videos of a most unusual engine, I believe there might be more than two however, I have seen two others besides this one, One in NY and one in Conn. I wish one were in my engine shed. Steve > Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 03:19:36 -0400 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > From: kosh at ncweb.com > Subject: [SEL] Rumsey Gas Engine, Binghamton NY - YouTube > > Spent some quality time with a 12 hp Rumsey-Williams vertical portable today. > > Built by Rumsey Gas Engine, Binghamton NY, apparently late 1890's. > Owner claims there are a total of 2 of these, the other is a 6 hp. > > Fascinating engine, with the entire portable carriage cast integral > with the crank, beautiful sweeping casting. > > The valve + firing mechanicals are a bit different too... > > It looks slightly small to be a 12 hp, but that's how it's labeled. > > This is at the Ashtabula County engine show, Wayne Ohio. > > Guy will be there Saturday, but not Sunday as he's Amish, > but I believe he plans to leave the engine there, and may > get somebody to run it for him. > > Here are 2 YouTubes of it... > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uokwyDBy1xo&feature=channel_page > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6uFeqEdWDw&feature=channel_page > > Planning to go out there again Saturday, hopefully the light will be better. > > This just might be the most beautiful engine I've ever seen, your mileage > may vary. > > Dave Merchant > > Dave Merchant > kosh at nesys.com > nesys_com at ameritech.net > dmerchant at layerzero.com > > http://www.nesys.com > http://www.nesys.org > YouTube: SteamCrane > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Sat Jul 4 17:35:59 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:35:59 +1000 Subject: [SEL] 4 th July In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090704213711.0222ae58@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Happy 4th of July from Oz. Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From jerrye at databak.co.za Sat Jul 4 12:55:18 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:55:18 +0200 Subject: [SEL] 4 th July Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090704213711.0222ae58@mail.cyberserv.co.za> To all my American friends, It's a bit late in the day (locally) but I hope that you all celebrated (or will celebrate) "Independence Day" in the way best befitting your own needs. I was quite amazed at the "quietness" leading up to this day this year. Not even "Google" changed their "banner" here (in South Africa) - in the past it has been "Stars & Stripes" and "Fireworks" - I wonder why ? Could this all be part of "Big Brother's" plan to discredit America (as in the U.S.A.) !! Not to worry, you still have many friends here - enjoy your celebrations. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From kosh at ncweb.com Sat Jul 4 23:16:57 2009 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:16:57 -0400 Subject: [SEL] 4 th July In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090704213711.0222ae58@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20090705003523.0cb35e20@ncweb.com> This is the first time in my life that we didn't celebrate the 4th. Things are pretty edgy here. Most recent polls indicate the US is now extremely polarized, with 33% "strongly approve", 35% "strongly disapprove", leaving less than 1/3 in the middle. Google "Tea Party". Dave Merchant At 03:55 PM 7/4/2009, you wrote: >To all my American friends, > It's a bit late in the day (locally) but I hope that you all >celebrated (or will celebrate) "Independence Day" in the way best befitting >your own needs. > > I was quite amazed at the "quietness" leading up to this day this >year. Not even "Google" changed their "banner" here (in South Africa) - in >the past it has been "Stars & Stripes" and "Fireworks" - I wonder why ? >Could this all be part of "Big Brother's" plan to discredit America (as in >the U.S.A.) !! > > Not to worry, you still have many friends here - enjoy your >celebrations. > >Keep the revs up (or down) >Jerry Evans >Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 5 05:21:42 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 05:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] 4 th July Message-ID: <276773.72842.qm@web37301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We didn't celebrate the 4th either. We just went to Mom's house and I set set up my 18' X 40' canopy and thirty some folks showed up with food. We ate and had fun watching the kids. Then they picked up their kids and stuff and I took my canopy down and came home. It was like Work, Fun, Work.? 8>)) Alan in Michigan --- On Sun, 7/5/09, Dave Merchant wrote: From: Dave Merchant Subject: Re: [SEL] 4 th July To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 2:16 AM This is the first time in my life that we didn't celebrate the 4th. Things are pretty edgy here. Most recent polls indicate the US is now extremely polarized, with 33% "strongly approve", 35% "strongly disapprove", leaving less than 1/3 in the middle. Google "Tea Party". Dave Merchant At 03:55 PM 7/4/2009, you wrote: >To all my American friends, >? ? ? ? ? It's a bit late in the day (locally) but I hope that you all >celebrated (or will celebrate) "Independence Day" in the way best befitting >your own needs. > >? ? ? ? ? I was quite amazed at the "quietness" leading up to this day this >year. Not even "Google" changed their "banner" here (in South Africa) - in >the past it has been "Stars & Stripes" and "Fireworks" - I wonder why ? >Could this all be part of "Big Brother's" plan to discredit America (as in >the U.S.A.) !! > >? ? ? ? ? Not to worry, you still have many friends here - enjoy your >celebrations. > >Keep the revs up (or down) >Jerry Evans >Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Sun Jul 5 07:12:07 2009 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 10:12:07 EDT Subject: [SEL] 1 HP National Engine Message-ID: Looking for a pulley for a 1 HP National engine can any of you boys over the pond help out. Thanks Kevin K _http://s975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/cwise83/Lewis%20Engines/_ (http://s975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/cwise83/Lewis%20Engines/) **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005) From edurand at mchsi.com Sun Jul 5 08:25:16 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 10:25:16 -0500 Subject: [SEL] 4 th July In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090704213711.0222ae58@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: Thank you for your kind comments on our beleaguered nation. I'm really concerned that we are going the way of other countries that have repeated the same mistakes that have been made many times over time. Soon, we could become a nation warring with itself and doomed to "salvation" by dictatorial rule. Maybe I won't live long enough to see it happen. Happy Independence Day........... Soon to be Dependence Day. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jerry Evans > Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 02:55 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com; > stationary-engine at oldengine.org; > slick at toltbbs.com > Subject: [SEL] 4 th July > > > To all my American friends, > It's a bit late in the day (locally) but > I hope that you all > celebrated (or will celebrate) "Independence Day" > in the way best befitting > your own needs. > > I was quite amazed at the "quietness" > leading up to this day this > year. Not even "Google" changed their "banner" > here (in South Africa) - in > the past it has been "Stars & Stripes" and > "Fireworks" - I wonder why ? > Could this all be part of "Big Brother's" plan to > discredit America (as in > the U.S.A.) !! > > Not to worry, you still have many > friends here - enjoy your > celebrations. > > Keep the revs up (or down) > Jerry Evans > Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Mon Jul 6 05:08:52 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:08:52 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes Message-ID: Now a topic that I am sure will result in differing views; The definition of 'working clothes'. It is one that is seen and heard a lot these days but the definition seems fairly fluid. >From engines I have seen in their original working environments it can range from immaculately maintained to covered in muck and held together with bits of wire. Any opinions out there on 'working clothes'? Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon Jul 6 05:55:43 2009 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 08:55:43 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My view is working clothes means pulling it directly from the farm, factory or original setting and leaving it in its "natural" state including the grease, oil, gunk, etc. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 8:09 AM To: Oldengine; ATIS Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes Now a topic that I am sure will result in differing views; The definition of 'working clothes'. It is one that is seen and heard a lot these days but the definition seems fairly fluid. >From engines I have seen in their original working environments it can range from immaculately maintained to covered in muck and held together with bits of wire. Any opinions out there on 'working clothes'? Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bill at antique-engines.com Mon Jul 6 06:15:50 2009 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 06:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2770.165.206.180.130.1246886150.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> IMO, it "depends"......... Some original owners may have shedded an ending, kept it maintained according to the manual, never let it get scratched or used looking, much like some daily-driver cars can also be show cars. OTOH, some poorer farmer maybe had to keep it outside, do his best with makeshift repairs, didn't wipe it down because the grease and oil helped prevent rust, etc. So just like today's cars are maintained and used to different degrees, so were these engines. On one hand, every piece of wire, every weld, every patched tank is a piece of history - the history of that engine and the history of that owner. It's a part of what it was and who he/she was. I prefer concourse restorations to over-restored. I also enjoy seeing ORIGINAL - both at car shows and engine shows. My car is more show, part driver, so it's not a concourse restoration. If I get another one, it will be maintained to driver level. My engines are typically not over-restored. I don't aim for a mirror finish and chrome pipes where there was no chrome originally. I've got some that are fully gone over and repainted nicely, others are just like they were found, repaired only to make them run and work. A 1.5 hp Alamo has little paint, little original paint, is oily and greasy, but runs quite nicely. My chapman was SO bad, I had little choice! Same for the 1.5 hp M - it was total rust and everything about it was stuck. I like 'em both ways, and what I do with them depends on how I get them..... My opinions - you asked! Bill > My view is working clothes means pulling it directly from the farm, > factory or original setting and leaving it in its "natural" state > including the grease, oil, gunk, etc. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Patrick > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 8:09 AM > To: Oldengine; ATIS > Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes > > Now a topic that I am sure will result in differing views; The > definition of > 'working clothes'. It is one that is seen and heard a lot these days but > the > definition seems fairly fluid. >>From engines I have seen in their original working environments it can > range > from immaculately maintained to covered in muck and held together with > bits > of wire. > Any opinions out there on 'working clothes'? > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From falcon at telenet.net Mon Jul 6 07:23:26 2009 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:23:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A5208DE.1010607@telenet.net> Patrick wrote: > Now a topic that I am sure will result in differing views; The definition of > 'working clothes'. It is one that is seen and heard a lot these days but the > definition seems fairly fluid. >>From engines I have seen in their original working environments it can range > from immaculately maintained to covered in muck and held together with bits > of wire. > Any opinions out there on 'working clothes'? > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > I consider "working clothes" to mean a working machine. Not a high gloss trailer queen. Basically a machine pulled from actually doing it's job to come to the show. Maybe a quick wash job to get the worst of the mud/dirt/manure off and thats it. -- Steve Williams From flywheelin at hotmail.com Mon Jul 6 07:35:35 2009 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:35:35 +0000 Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT In-Reply-To: <007f01c9fc00$d3665b70$83674b47@mikecomp> References: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop> <000d01c9fa9b$773f93e0$83674b47@mikecomp> <007f01c9fc00$d3665b70$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: :-)) Yep, it's probably not a good thing when you know all the words to the Spongebob Square Pants theme song. Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ====================== > From: mr at carolina.rr.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:07:55 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > Naaaaa, I bet with Brooke in the car you know every children's song there > is!!!!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Luke Tonneberger" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:56 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > Maybe it's a sign I'm beginning to get old :-) > > Luke Tonneberger > > Rockford, Michigan > > USA > > ==================== > > > From: mr at carolina.rr.com > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:29:57 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > Where have you been???? This is over a year old. Obviously you been > > listening to that devil hippie rock and roll nonsense!!! Come on over to > > country boy!!!! > > > > MR > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Luke Tonneberger" > > To: "Engine List" > > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:22 AM > > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > > > > > I've seen that one before......... > > > > > > > > I ran across this one yesterday and was the first time I heard it....... > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqXZt0aQvvM > > > > Luke Tonneberger > > > > Rockford, Michigan > > > > USA > > > > ============================ > > > > > From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net > > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:06:50 -0400 > > > Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > > > Off topic, but just worthwhile... > > > > > > http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094 > > > > > > > > > Jim in Vermont _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 From bill at antique-engines.com Mon Jul 6 07:37:26 2009 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: <4A5208DE.1010607@telenet.net> References: <4A5208DE.1010607@telenet.net> Message-ID: <2910.165.206.180.130.1246891046.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> tsk-tsk-tsk - only if the run-off is captured in a holding area and disposed of properly. Bill >> > ............ Maybe a quick wash job to get the worst of the > mud/dirt/manure off and thats it. > > > -- > Steve Williams > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From jlb94 at juno.com Mon Jul 6 07:47:03 2009 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:47:03 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes Message-ID: <20090706.074146.2464.13267@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com> IMO - "Working Clothes" is pretty much how you found it. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ (_o_) Keep Pennsylvania beautiful - Ban large pumpkin colored highway signs. On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:23:26 -0400 "Steve W." writes: > Patrick wrote: > > Now a topic that I am sure will result in differing views; The > definition of > > 'working clothes'. It is one that is seen and heard a lot these > days but the > > definition seems fairly fluid. > >>From engines I have seen in their original working environments it > can range > > from immaculately maintained to covered in muck and held together > with bits > > of wire. > > Any opinions out there on 'working clothes'? > > > > Patrick M Livingstone > > Leichhardt NSW > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > I consider "working clothes" to mean a working machine. Not a high > gloss > trailer queen. Basically a machine pulled from actually doing it's > job > to come to the show. Maybe a quick wash job to get the worst of the > mud/dirt/manure off and thats it. > > > -- > Steve Williams > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________ Find the right voice for your project by clicking here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTIbs9hTK9nVJsiTN8sMNwgP9gmOJHYTL3J7o4E43K47FolbIGRXbC/ From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Jul 6 09:37:06 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:37:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Patrick: I like 'em both ways. There's nothing nicer than a very old and fine engine that's restored to new condition. Some of those engines are really works of engineering art. Then, there's the engine that worked on a farm for a living and kept running with ingenuity and balin' wire. Those are nice to see, too. Although they look nice when over-restored, most of the commoner engines never were beauty queens. Even when they were new, they had pits and casting imperfections, sloppy paint and even some factory jury-rigging. To be authentic, they should not be restored to any better than they looked when they left the factory. Anyhoo - the engine belongs to the owner and he or she is free to do whatever rings their chimes. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Patrick > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 07:09 AM > To: Oldengine; ATIS > Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes ...................snip.................. > Any opinions out there on 'working clothes'? > > Patrick M Livingstone From falcon at telenet.net Mon Jul 6 09:16:59 2009 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:16:59 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: <2910.165.206.180.130.1246891046.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> References: <4A5208DE.1010607@telenet.net> <2910.165.206.180.130.1246891046.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <4A52237B.3080906@telenet.net> bill at antique-engines.com wrote: > tsk-tsk-tsk - only if the run-off is captured in a holding area and > disposed of properly. > > > Bill > Well if you want to consider the yard in front of the barn a "holding area" I guess that's your call..... -- Steve W From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Jul 6 11:09:21 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:09:21 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090706184638.0195d5f0@mail.atech.co.za> At 06:00 PM 06/07/2009, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:08:52 +1000 >From: Patrick >Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes > >Now a topic that I am sure will result in differing views; The definition of >'working clothes'. It is one that is seen and heard a lot these days but the >definition seems fairly fluid. > >From engines I have seen in their original working environments it can range >from immaculately maintained to covered in muck and held together with bits >of wire. >Any opinions out there on 'working clothes'? >Patrick M Livingstone >Leichhardt NSW >http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html Hi Patrick, Being a relative "newbie to this game, here is my opinion. I agree with all the previous answers. There is no correct answer to the question. If, as you mentioned, you are lucky enough to come across one that has been "immaculately maintained". Then show it like that. Those in the know will really appreciate it. Of course, if it has been "immaculately maintained" then it will have no grease, oil or other "muck" on it! If it has "bits of wire" holding it together then it's up to you. An engine with "farmers repairs" can also generate a lot of interest at shows if it is a relatively "rare" engine and you make a point of touting the fact that it has worked successfully for "xxx" years in that condition. Every owner has his own priorities and it depends on what he wants to do with the engine. (I loved Eldens reply :"Anyhoo - the engine belongs to the owner and he or she is free to do whatever rings their chimes." Are you restoring the engine for your own gratification and enjoyment or are you restoring it with a view to it being an "investment"? Even then, will you get a higher price for it from a "purist" or someone who appreciates the work you've put into it or the rarity of the machine? "Working clothes" in my opinion means just that - with all the grease, oil and other "gunk" intact and will attract attention at shows. In my experience, it attracts attention because some member of the public will say "Hey, look here's a really old one!!" That's my "tuppence ha'pennies" worth! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From jdohagan at comcast.net Mon Jul 6 13:46:43 2009 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:46:43 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal Message-ID: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in smaller pipe sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to "black"? Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. Jim O'Hagan From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Jul 6 14:02:22 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:02:22 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal In-Reply-To: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> References: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: Jimmy, I mix muratic acid and water 50/50 in a plastic tub. Drop the parts in and leave until they quit fizzing. Then remove, wash with water and then neutralize with baking soda and water for an hour. Then you are ready to go with black fittings. Steve > From: jdohagan at comcast.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:46:43 -0700 > Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal > > Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in smaller pipe > sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My > question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to "black"? > Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 From rotigel at me.com Mon Jul 6 14:24:14 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:24:14 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal In-Reply-To: References: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: Do what you otter--add acid to water! Dave On Jul 6, 2009, at 2:02 PM, Steve Royster wrote: > > Jimmy, I mix muratic acid and water 50/50 in a plastic tub. Drop the > parts in and leave until they quit fizzing. Then remove, wash with > water and then neutralize with baking soda and water for an hour. > Then you are ready to go with black fittings. Steve > >> From: jdohagan at comcast.net >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:46:43 -0700 >> Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal >> >> Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in >> smaller pipe >> sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My >> question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to >> "black"? >> Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. >> >> >> >> Jim O'Hagan >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. > http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edstoller at earthlink.net Mon Jul 6 14:30:59 2009 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:30:59 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal References: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: In the winter, I have put them in a fire to burn the zinc off. Today, I would use electrolysis. Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim O'Hagan" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:46 PM Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal > Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in smaller pipe > sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My > question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to "black"? > Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Jul 6 14:26:58 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:26:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT References: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop><000d01c9fa9b$773f93e0$83674b47@mikecomp> <007f01c9fc00$d3665b70$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <002a01c9fe80$7e4d8b90$83674b47@mikecomp> Been there, done that. Come to think of it, Arnie sang that every morning on the EHOWT!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Tonneberger" To: "Engine List" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT :-)) Yep, it's probably not a good thing when you know all the words to the Spongebob Square Pants theme song. Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ====================== > From: mr at carolina.rr.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:07:55 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > Naaaaa, I bet with Brooke in the car you know every children's song there > is!!!!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Luke Tonneberger" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:56 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > Maybe it's a sign I'm beginning to get old :-) > > Luke Tonneberger > > Rockford, Michigan > > USA > > ==================== > > > From: mr at carolina.rr.com > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:29:57 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > Where have you been???? This is over a year old. Obviously you been > > listening to that devil hippie rock and roll nonsense!!! Come on over to > > country boy!!!! > > > > MR > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Luke Tonneberger" > > To: "Engine List" > > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:22 AM > > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > > > > > I've seen that one before......... > > > > > > > > I ran across this one yesterday and was the first time I heard it....... > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqXZt0aQvvM > > > > Luke Tonneberger > > > > Rockford, Michigan > > > > USA > > > > ============================ > > > > > From: Jim at hardmanfamily.net > > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:06:50 -0400 > > > Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > > > Off topic, but just worthwhile... > > > > > > http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094 > > > > > > > > > Jim in Vermont _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From marinesurveys at msn.com Mon Jul 6 14:31:37 2009 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:31:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal In-Reply-To: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> References: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: Jim; No problem with Blk Iron here in NC, it's a requirement on gas piping both Natural & LP Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: jdohagan at comcast.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:46:43 -0700 > Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal > > Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in smaller pipe > sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My > question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to "black"? > Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Mon Jul 6 14:44:16 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:44:16 -0700 Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT In-Reply-To: <002a01c9fe80$7e4d8b90$83674b47@mikecomp> References: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop> <000d01c9fa9b$773f93e0$83674b47@mikecomp> <007f01c9fc00$d3665b70$83674b47@mikecomp> <002a01c9fe80$7e4d8b90$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <8ADACA27-6973-4FAE-84B7-AE8C3803712E@me.com> Who/what is (a) Spongebob Square Pants? Dave On Jul 6, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Mike Royster wrote: > Been there, done that. Come to think of it, Arnie sang that every > morning > on the EHOWT!!!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Luke Tonneberger" > To: "Engine List" > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:35 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > :-)) Yep, it's probably not a good thing when you know all the words > to the > Spongebob Square Pants theme song. > > Luke Tonneberger From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Jul 6 14:46:37 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:46:37 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal References: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: <009101c9fe83$3d4d5960$83674b47@mikecomp> Jimmy, it really works. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Galvanizing removal Jimmy, I mix muratic acid and water 50/50 in a plastic tub. Drop the parts in and leave until they quit fizzing. Then remove, wash with water and then neutralize with baking soda and water for an hour. Then you are ready to go with black fittings. Steve > From: jdohagan at comcast.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:46:43 -0700 > Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal > > Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in smaller pipe > sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My > question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to "black"? > Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Mon Jul 6 15:05:13 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:05:13 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal In-Reply-To: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> References: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: Jimmy, if you need, I can pick some up from the local hardware store and ship them out your way. However, it's probably cheaper just to order from McMaster-Carr. Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Jim O'Hagan wrote: > Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in smaller > pipe > sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My > question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to > "black"? > Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From james.kangas at timken.com Mon Jul 6 16:06:17 2009 From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:06:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT References: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop><000d01c9fa9b$773f93e0$83674b47@mikecomp><007f01c9fc00$d3665b70$83674b47@mikecomp><002a01c9fe80$7e4d8b90$83674b47@mikecomp> <8ADACA27-6973-4FAE-84B7-AE8C3803712E@me.com> Message-ID: It's a cartoon show on Nickelodeon T.V. Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of David Rotigel Sent: Mon 7/6/2009 5:44 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT Who/what is (a) Spongebob Square Pants? Dave On Jul 6, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Mike Royster wrote: > Been there, done that. Come to think of it, Arnie sang that every > morning > on the EHOWT!!!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Luke Tonneberger" > To: "Engine List" > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:35 AM > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > > > :-)) Yep, it's probably not a good thing when you know all the words > to the > Spongebob Square Pants theme song. > > Luke Tonneberger _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Jul 6 16:27:59 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:27:59 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal In-Reply-To: References: <20090706204644.4B8BF3028EE@in05.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Message-ID: However we don't run any 1/8 " black for gas piping, usually 3/4 is the smallest you will see for gas piping. Steve in NC > From: marinesurveys at msn.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:31:37 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Galvanizing removal > > > Jim; > > No problem with Blk Iron here in NC, it's a requirement on gas piping > > both Natural & LP > > Franklin S. Skinner > Marine Surveyor & Consultant > 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 > 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West > PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > > > > > > From: jdohagan at comcast.net > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:46:43 -0700 > > Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal > > > > Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in smaller pipe > > sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My > > question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to "black"? > > Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. > > > > > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 From Camaned at iinet.net.au Mon Jul 6 17:03:55 2009 From: Camaned at iinet.net.au (Cameron Grundy) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:03:55 +1000 Subject: [SEL] SIAM 2009 Pictures In-Reply-To: <3915021B-21AC-4625-8420-9451822ADC8C@me.com> References: <3915021B-21AC-4625-8420-9451822ADC8C@me.com> Message-ID: <000001c9fe96$6b872be0$429583a0$@net.au> Thanks very for sharing pics Dave, They are great. Cam -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2009 12:27 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] SIAM 2009 Pictures Hi All, AT LAST the pictures of the SIAM 2009 show are up. You can see them at: http://gallery.me.com/rotigel Dave PS, Keith, can you fine a way to get them to Marian? Thanks! _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From camaned at iinet.net.au Mon Jul 6 17:16:16 2009 From: camaned at iinet.net.au (Cam Grundy) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:16:16 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Pictures from 1000 egine at Astle Park & Ansons Museum In-Reply-To: <004301c9fa67$d13e5b30$42920556@intrepid> References: <004301c9fa67$d13e5b30$42920556@intrepid> Message-ID: Thanks for the photo's Dave I would like to go there one day. Cam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Croft" To: "atis" Cc: "Oldengine.org" Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:20 AM Subject: [SEL] Pictures from 1000 egine at Astle Park & Ansons Museum > Last weekend. see > http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ullerman/1000Engine09# > for the show & > http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ullerman/AnsonMuseum09# > for a little of the museum. > The museum has increased quite a lot in the last year. > Dave Croft > Warrington > http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ > http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 6 17:19:42 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal Message-ID: <359422.2945.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just today at work I was re-plumbing an air line water drain with 3/8" black pipe.? It was last Summer when I bought a piece of 1/8" black pipe for a project. ? Alan in Michigan --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Steve Royster wrote: From: Steve Royster Subject: Re: [SEL] Galvanizing removal To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 7:27 PM However we don't run any 1/8 " black for gas piping, usually 3/4 is the smallest you will see for gas piping. Steve in NC > From: marinesurveys at msn.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:31:37 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Galvanizing removal > > > Jim; > > No problem with Blk Iron here in NC, it's a requirement on gas piping > > both Natural & LP > > Franklin S. Skinner > Marine Surveyor & Consultant > 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 > 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West > PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > > > > > > From: jdohagan at comcast.net > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:46:43 -0700 > > Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal > > > > Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in smaller pipe > > sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My > > question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to "black"? > > Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. > > > > > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jdohagan at comcast.net Mon Jul 6 17:55:15 2009 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:55:15 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090707005515.9D03665B579@in02.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Franklin, In northern Ca. black iron is optional on interior applications but galvy is used both for interior and exterior. 1/8th and 1/4 are too small for gas so there isn't much demand for the small sizes. Jimmy Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of frank skinner Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 2:32 PM To: AA_OLD ENGINE Subject: Re: [SEL] Galvanizing removal Jim; No problem with Blk Iron here in NC, it's a requirement on gas piping both Natural & LP Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: jdohagan at comcast.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:46:43 -0700 > Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal > > Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in smaller pipe > sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My > question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to "black"? > Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jdohagan at comcast.net Mon Jul 6 17:59:40 2009 From: jdohagan at comcast.net (Jim O'Hagan) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:59:40 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Galvanizing removal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090707005940.D89EE44496F@in04.sjc.mx.trendmicro.com> Thanks Rob, I have an Email into Hit and Miss, checking on their "steel" fittings. I'm not sure what that label means. Jimmy Jim O'Hagan -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Rob Skinner Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 3:05 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Galvanizing removal Jimmy, if you need, I can pick some up from the local hardware store and ship them out your way. However, it's probably cheaper just to order from McMaster-Carr. Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Jim O'Hagan wrote: > Hello, I'm having a tuff time finding black iron fittings in smaller > pipe > sizes so I guess I'll have to buy galvanized 1/8" pipe fittings. My > question is, how do you remove the plating to return the pipe to > "black"? > Thanks, Jimmy O'Hagan, 415 892 0236, Novato, Ca. > > > > Jim O'Hagan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Mon Jul 6 18:01:55 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:01:55 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Once you guys get done with this one please consider how many OBAMA's can stand on the head of a pin! Dave PS, And then could someone please tell me how high is UP! On Jul 6, 2009, at 5:08 AM, Patrick wrote: > Now a topic that I am sure will result in differing views; The > definition of > 'working clothes'. It is one that is seen and heard a lot these days > but the > definition seems fairly fluid. >> From engines I have seen in their original working environments it >> can range > from immaculately maintained to covered in muck and held together > with bits > of wire. > Any opinions out there on 'working clothes'? > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Mon Jul 6 18:27:01 2009 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:27:01 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A52A465.2040904@optusnet.com.au> === As high as a piece of string, Dave JW? === David Rotigel wrote: > Once you guys get done with this .... > . . . PS, And then could someone please tell me how high is UP! > From flywheelin at hotmail.com Tue Jul 7 06:10:08 2009 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 13:10:08 +0000 Subject: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT In-Reply-To: <8ADACA27-6973-4FAE-84B7-AE8C3803712E@me.com> References: <5339548553CE4EE6A788586CF00EED2C@JamesDesktop> <000d01c9fa9b$773f93e0$83674b47@mikecomp> <007f01c9fc00$d3665b70$83674b47@mikecomp> <002a01c9fe80$7e4d8b90$83674b47@mikecomp> <8ADACA27-6973-4FAE-84B7-AE8C3803712E@me.com> Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj3zlCMNuXg theme song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrtadKnY5Ug a sample Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ======================== > From: rotigel at me.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:44:16 -0700 > Subject: Re: [SEL] A Tractor's Song, OT > > Who/what is (a) Spongebob Square Pants? > Dave > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Jul 7 07:32:24 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:32:24 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oh, Dave! There you go again. Everyone knows an infinite number of Obamas can stand on the head of a pin, the other end of which is getting ready to poke us in the hiney! How high is up? As far as he can shove it. :-) Boy! I can't wait 'til they tell me I'm to old for health care. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of David > Rotigel > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 08:02 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Working Clothes > > > Once you guys get done with this one please > consider how many OBAMA's > can stand on the head of a pin! > Dave > PS, And then could someone please tell me how high is UP! From lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue Jul 7 07:19:04 2009 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:19:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <827D83D2FDC44598BB8A7411044CEEBE@tommyd0x52gkco> Elden, Well, keeping this a bit on a Presidential note as well as a twist on words, Abe Lincoln was once being mocked for his height. A reported asked "Mr. Lincoln, how long should a man's legs actually be?". Lincoln replied "I guess long enough to reach the ground" I just had a friend, who collects antique cars and has a couple of engines and is in his late 70's, stop by my office to see me. He said he now had proof how old he was looking. He had just been to the local nursing home visiting his aunt. He was walking up the hall and a lady was sort of staring at him. He walked up to her and said "Hi ma'am, you probably know who I am". She replied, "no, but if you'll go up to that nurses station they can probably tell you". Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY How high is up? As far as he can shove it. :-) From frappi at wcoil.com Tue Jul 7 08:39:04 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:39:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090707153852.DD3383C06F2@mail02.wcoil.com> Soylent Green here we come! Mark At 10:32 AM 7/7/2009, you wrote: >Oh, Dave! There you go again. Everyone knows an infinite number of >Obamas can stand on the head of a pin, the other end of which is >getting ready to poke us in the hiney! > >How high is up? As far as he can shove it. :-) > >Boy! I can't wait 'til they tell me I'm to old for health care. > >Take care - Elden >http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > > Behalf Of David > > Rotigel > > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 08:02 PM > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Working Clothes > > > > > > Once you guys get done with this one please > > consider how many OBAMA's > > can stand on the head of a pin! > > Dave > > PS, And then could someone please tell me how high is UP! > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.7/2222 - Release Date: >07/07/09 05:53:00 Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 USA 419.358.5206 From gastzt at aol.com Tue Jul 7 09:19:39 2009 From: gastzt at aol.com (gastzt at aol.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 12:19:39 EDT Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes Message-ID: AMEN TO THAT!!!! Stan (old stovers) Pleasanton, Texas **************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003) From mr at carolina.rr.com Tue Jul 7 10:22:17 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 13:22:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes References: <20090707153852.DD3383C06F2@mail02.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <005101c9ff27$7a831c30$83674b47@mikecomp> It's people!!!!!! We're eating people!!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Shulaw" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Working Clothes > Soylent Green here we come! Mark > > > > At 10:32 AM 7/7/2009, you wrote: >>Oh, Dave! There you go again. Everyone knows an infinite number of >>Obamas can stand on the head of a pin, the other end of which is >>getting ready to poke us in the hiney! >> >>How high is up? As far as he can shove it. :-) >> >>Boy! I can't wait 'til they tell me I'm to old for health care. >> >>Take care - Elden >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >> > Behalf Of David >> > Rotigel >> > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 08:02 PM >> > To: The SEL email discussion list >> > Subject: Re: [SEL] Working Clothes >> > >> > >> > Once you guys get done with this one please >> > consider how many OBAMA's >> > can stand on the head of a pin! >> > Dave >> > PS, And then could someone please tell me how high is UP! >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.7/2222 - Release Date: >>07/07/09 05:53:00 > > Mark & Christine Shulaw > Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 > USA > 419.358.5206 > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Tue Jul 7 15:27:29 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:27:29 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: <20090707153852.DD3383C06F2@mail02.wcoil.com> Message-ID: Mark: Charleton Heston back in the '60's. I just hope the plankton holds out. "Omega Man" ring any bells? Ain't it wonderful what the future holds for us. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Mark Shulaw > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:39 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Working Clothes > > > Soylent Green here we come! Mark From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Tue Jul 7 22:07:46 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:07:46 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I like to leave engines with a lot of original paint and features alone. If an engine needs a major rebuild I will do a full paint job on it. It is nice to see a mixture of both unrestored and restored engines. I may be exaggerating but TOMM seems to label almost anything with little paint on it as 'working clothes'. Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From dombros2 at clearmail.com.au Wed Jul 8 01:46:53 2009 From: dombros2 at clearmail.com.au (Ted & Sue Domeney) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 18:46:53 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Mars diesel Message-ID: <140BAC51A26742D581257035A0908A8B@HOUSE> Hi there Bit of a newbie on this Forum, but I see some familiar names. Can anyone tell me the origin (country, manufacturer) of the little Mars diesel engine, please? I see one listing on Google that states they produced 3.5 hp at 650 rpm, but nothing on when or where they were built. I took a photo of one at our national Rally in South Australia this year, but could not track down the owner. Thanks in advance Tediesel Tasmania Australia From mathjr at optusnet.com.au Wed Jul 8 02:21:55 2009 From: mathjr at optusnet.com.au (Renee Mathieson) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:21:55 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes Message-ID: <1557F0DF42734233827C77C28B475429@lightning> I agree with you patrick. We are surpose to be restoreres not destroyers. If an engine has a fair amount of original paint and even some pinstriping leave it as it is. Coat it in turps and oil. I was about to buy an expencive engine from Murray Bridge and the seller mentioned that it had been sandblasted. I pulled out of the sale strait away. As far as I am concerned that engine has been destroyed. The before pics show pinstriping and a lot of original artwork and paint. I have bead blasted very rusty engines and oiled them up to try and get the old patina but would never paint or sandblast an engine that showed original paint etc. These engines are still in their working clothes. John Mathieson Eden NSW From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Wed Jul 8 02:38:38 2009 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:38:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Mars diesel In-Reply-To: <140BAC51A26742D581257035A0908A8B@HOUSE> References: <140BAC51A26742D581257035A0908A8B@HOUSE> Message-ID: G'Day Ted Mars were built in Brisbane see my page http://www.oldengine.org/members/kmorris/Webpages/Austmakers.html the one shown is owned by a Sydney owner. Can get his name Kerry Lithgow NSW Oz > Hi there > Bit of a newbie on this Forum, but I see some familiar names. > Can anyone tell me the origin (country, manufacturer) of the little Mars > diesel engine, please? > I see one listing on Google that states they produced 3.5 hp at 650 rpm, > but nothing on when or where they were built. > I took a photo of one at our national Rally in South Australia this year, > but could not track down the owner. > > Thanks in advance > > Tediesel > Tasmania > Australia > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From nadejack at optusnet.com.au Wed Jul 8 02:48:57 2009 From: nadejack at optusnet.com.au (Jack) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:48:57 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Mars diesel In-Reply-To: <140BAC51A26742D581257035A0908A8B@HOUSE> References: <140BAC51A26742D581257035A0908A8B@HOUSE> Message-ID: <4A546B89.9020907@optusnet.com.au> There used to be a Mars Machine Tool company in The Valley, Brisbane Qld back in the 50s when I was there. Their lathes were well known. I don't know if they made diesel engines, but it is possible. JW? === Ted & Sue Domeney wrote: > Hi there > Bit of a newbie on this Forum, but I see some familiar names. > Can anyone tell me the origin (country, manufacturer) of the little Mars diesel engine, please? > I see one listing on Google that states they produced 3.5 hp at 650 rpm, but nothing on when or where they were built. > I took a photo of one at our national Rally in South Australia this year, but could not track down the owner. > > Thanks in advance > > Tediesel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Jul 8 03:14:46 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 20:14:46 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Moffat Virtue parts wanted Message-ID: Hi All I am trying to help a newbee to the hobby that has a 2 1/4 hp Moffat Virtue he is restoring. He needs some governor parts and carby parts. I am waiting for photos, but mean while if anyone has any parts for sale can they get back to me. Thanks in advance. Peter, Oz From ilifa at internode.on.net Wed Jul 8 03:37:52 2009 From: ilifa at internode.on.net (Eric Schulz) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 20:37:52 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Mars diesel In-Reply-To: <4A546B89.9020907@optusnet.com.au> References: <140BAC51A26742D581257035A0908A8B@HOUSE> <4A546B89.9020907@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: A bit more about Mars. Formerly trading as Rapson & Dutton, in about 1942 the company name was changed to Mars Machine Tools at Bridge St, Valley, Brisbane. As far as I know, during the war the horizontal Brons system engines continued under the Victor brand, and probably a 6hp vertical that goes back to the mid 30's. If an advertisement is to be believed, a new series of vertical engines was introduced in 1953 in 3, 5, and 8 hp sizes. The 3 and 5hp were very Lister-like. The engine at the National Rally was a 8hp size. If you want to read more about the lathes, go to www.lathes.co.uk/mars Mars was the mythical god Mars, not the planet. Eric >> Bit of a newbie on this Forum, but I see some familiar names. >> Can anyone tell me the origin (country, manufacturer) of the little >> Mars diesel engine, please? >> I see one listing on Google that states they produced 3.5 hp at 650 >> rpm, but nothing on when or where they were built. >> I took a photo of one at our national Rally in South Australia this >> year, but could not track down the owner. >> >> Tediesel From mike17257 at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 04:06:04 2009 From: mike17257 at gmail.com (michael young) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:06:04 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Working Clothes In-Reply-To: <1557F0DF42734233827C77C28B475429@lightning> References: <1557F0DF42734233827C77C28B475429@lightning> Message-ID: <844af0290907080406u7052b7a9haae04131aa7c403e@mail.gmail.com> Hi,even if its got no original paint on them at all I prefer to not paint em. Do the mechanical work and don worry bout the paint. This might be cos I am s*** with the spray gun (true) an lazy (true as well) but mosly coz thats the way I like em. Sand blasting is a big no no with me as well. Mike Young On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Renee Mathieson wrote: > I agree with you patrick. We are surpose to be restoreres not destroyers. > If an engine has a fair amount of original paint and even some pinstriping > leave it as it is. Coat it in turps and oil. I was about to buy an expencive > engine from Murray Bridge and the seller mentioned that it had been > sandblasted. I pulled out of the sale strait away. As far as I am concerned > that engine has been destroyed. The before pics show pinstriping and a lot > of original artwork and paint. I have bead blasted very rusty engines and > oiled them up to try and get the old patina but would never paint or > sandblast an engine that showed original paint etc. These engines are still > in their working clothes. John Mathieson Eden NSW > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From oldengines at bigpond.com Wed Jul 8 04:16:49 2009 From: oldengines at bigpond.com (Ron Sullivan) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:16:49 +1000 Subject: [SEL] off topic info 1923 twin city tractors Message-ID: <002601c9ffbd$96598200$6500a8c0@ronliz> Hi all just looking 4 some info on 12 20 circa1923 Twin City tractors is there alot in oz and approx value of 1 retored and its brother 2 numbers later and original with rebuilt motor and a day to put back together with steel wheels as we are not tractor enriched at the moment but could be real soon thanks Ron & Liz Sullivan oldengines at bigpond.com From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Wed Jul 8 11:46:23 2009 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:46:23 +0100 Subject: [SEL] site for old English Engines Message-ID: <000a01c9fffc$65c87fd0$42920556@intrepid> Seen on the UK.REC.ENGINES.STATIONARY site. http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/wiki/Main_Page Not the best set out but it does have items of interest! Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From dombros2 at clearmail.com.au Thu Jul 9 01:57:59 2009 From: dombros2 at clearmail.com.au (Ted & Sue Domeney) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 18:57:59 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Mars diesel Message-ID: <7059E975086F4C4FB89884AF6420BB36@HOUSE> Thank you Kerry, Jack and Eric for your helpful replies. (Eric, Off Topic- regarding your comment in your reply, was not Mars [the planet] named after the (mythical) Roman god of war of the same name? I always assumed it was so.) Regards to all Tediesel From ilifa at internode.on.net Thu Jul 9 02:40:02 2009 From: ilifa at internode.on.net (Eric Schulz) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:40:02 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Mars diesel In-Reply-To: <7059E975086F4C4FB89884AF6420BB36@HOUSE> References: <7059E975086F4C4FB89884AF6420BB36@HOUSE> Message-ID: Ted & Sue Domeney wrote: > (Eric, Off Topic- regarding your comment in your reply, was not Mars > [the planet] named after the (mythical) Roman god of war of the same > name? I always assumed it was so.) Ted what you say makes sense. What made me say that was because the Mars trademark was the god's head. As I have a personal relationship with the living Creator God, I don't take that much interest in man- made ones. Even so, it's an impressive looking trademark. Eric From frappi at wcoil.com Thu Jul 9 09:41:50 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:41:50 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Maytag Needs Ride/ New Hampshire to points WEST In-Reply-To: <000a01c9fffc$65c87fd0$42920556@intrepid> References: <000a01c9fffc$65c87fd0$42920556@intrepid> Message-ID: <20090709164137.6CA7D1475C2@mail01.wcoil.com> We are looking to get a ride for a Maytag engine from New Hampshire to any points or any place in between the ultimate destination of NE Iowa 6 miles from the Minnesota border. Just don't want to trust the engine to the gentle handling of the shippers. We can use connections to Connecticut (Marks Magnetos) or New Jersey or Eastern PA. And then people there can get it to Portland Show in August. Or even events before that. Or we can use connections to several different points in Ohio. Or To Portland show straight from New Hampshire. I know people in most parts of Ohio or southern Michigan that it could be left with. What ever can be work out. Theres even a couple people in Southern Ontario that could take it and get it to Portland. Its a Maytag so it does not take a lot of room. Beer, soda or some gas money can be arraigned. We are always willing to help in a transport ourselves. Thanks, Mark Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for this Country! Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From frappi at wcoil.com Thu Jul 9 09:55:28 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:55:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Maytag Needs Ride/ New Hampshire to points WEST Message-ID: <20090709165515.017E43E4477@mail05.wcoil.com> Almost forgot If we can get it from Bethleham NH to the Pepperell Mass show this weekend we have a ride for it to Marks Magnetos. My contact # 419.516.2996 Thanks, Mark We are looking to get a ride for a Maytag engine from New Hampshire to any points or any place in between the ultimate destination of NE Iowa 6 miles from the Minnesota border. Just don't want to trust the engine to the gentle handling of the shippers. We can use connections to Connecticut (Marks Magnetos) or New Jersey or Eastern PA. And then people there can get it to Portland Show in August. Or even events before that. Or we can use connections to several different points in Ohio. Or To Portland show straight from New Hampshire. I know people in most parts of Ohio or southern Michigan that it could be left with. What ever can be work out. Theres even a couple people in Southern Ontario that could take it and get it to Portland. Its a Maytag so it does not take a lot of room. Beer, soda or some gas money can be arraigned. We are always willing to help in a transport ourselves. Thanks, Mark Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for this Country! Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Fri Jul 10 19:38:36 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:38:36 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Austral register July 2009 Message-ID: Below are the totals on the Austral register as of July 2009. They have a pretty amazing survival rate. HP Total 3 143 3.5 20 4 183 4.5 7 5 131 5.5 35 6 213 6.5 28 7 52 7.5 11 8 111 8.5 23 9 5 9.5 2 10 15 11 78 12 3 15 4 16 17 20 18 25 2 26 1 32 1 ? 81 Grand Total 1184 Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From cgandree at mchsi.com Sat Jul 11 04:26:58 2009 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:26:58 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Searching for engineman Message-ID: <071120091126.6.4A587702000D112200000006223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Hi All, Does any one know how I can reach Mike Omally from Mass. Looking for his phone and email. thank you in advance, Curt Andree From fuller_johnson at yahoo.com Sat Jul 11 05:28:10 2009 From: fuller_johnson at yahoo.com (Fuller & Johnson) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Searching for engineman Message-ID: <763915.50572.qm@web52308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hitmiss at aol.com --- On Sat, 7/11/09, cgandree at mchsi.com wrote: From: cgandree at mchsi.com Subject: [SEL] Searching for engineman To: "SEL Lists" Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 7:26 AM Hi All, Does any one know how I can reach Mike Omally from Mass.? Looking for his phone and email. thank you in advance, Curt Andree _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fbi at insulate.co.uk Sat Jul 11 08:19:02 2009 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:19:02 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 Message-ID: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> Hi All I realise I've been very slow in getting the webpages done for the Nuenen show, but at least I've got pictures available for everyone to enjoy before anyone who went on the EHOWT09 has done! http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/nuenen1.htm Dolly -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From rob at rustyiron.com Sat Jul 11 09:56:19 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:56:19 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <9E0FBA01-CCDC-44FE-A5AE-43B38087A039@rustyiron.com> Diggin' your pictures? You NEED a Dolle engine? That hot air contraption would be nice in your sewing room? and YES, Kov???k displays properly. I still have the other half to view, but the trails await. Thanks. Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com On Jul 11, 2009, at 8:19 AM, Jim French wrote: > Hi All > > I realise I've been very slow in getting the webpages done for the > Nuenen show, but at least I've got pictures available for everyone to > enjoy before anyone who went on the EHOWT09 has done! > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/nuenen1.htm > > Dolly From rdhaskell at juno.com Sat Jul 11 12:32:54 2009 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:32:54 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 Message-ID: <20090711.123255.1384.4.rdhaskell@juno.com> Outstanding pictures Dolly. Thanks. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:19:02 +0100 Jim French writes: > Hi All > > I realise I've been very slow in getting the webpages done for the > Nuenen show, but at least I've got pictures available for everyone > to > enjoy before anyone who went on the EHOWT09 has done! > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/nuenen1.htm > > Dolly > > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm ____________________________________________________________ Visit the City of Brotherly Love! 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(http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003) From camaned at iinet.net.au Sat Jul 11 15:53:35 2009 From: camaned at iinet.net.au (Cam Grundy) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:53:35 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Austral register July 2009 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6D4715224C05439CA86F2C41364E8C0D@CamPC> Thanks for that Patrick. Cam. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick" To: "ATIS" ; "Oldengine" Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 12:38 PM Subject: [SEL] Austral register July 2009 > Below are the totals on the Austral register as of July 2009. They have a > pretty amazing survival rate. > > HP Total > 3 143 > 3.5 20 > 4 183 > 4.5 7 > 5 131 > 5.5 35 > 6 213 > 6.5 28 > 7 52 > 7.5 11 > 8 111 > 8.5 23 > 9 5 > 9.5 2 > 10 15 > 11 78 > 12 3 > 15 4 > 16 17 > 20 18 > 25 2 > 26 1 > 32 1 > ? 81 > > Grand Total 1184 > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From edstoller at earthlink.net Sat Jul 11 18:36:58 2009 From: edstoller at earthlink.net (Ed stoller) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:36:58 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Any Michigan Shows References: Message-ID: <49E9A95AA7F54303BF05527592BC202B@Ed> When and where are the engine shows in Michigan please?? Reference,Sharing_Small_Engine_Secrets at yahoogroups.com Thanks Ed, I got it now .... There are several shows around the Michigan area yearly and I did not know the true history and how they evolved .. I will make it a point to attend a show ... Who knows, there may be one around here this weekend ... Fred B ( moderator ) Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ From riga_fire at yahoo.com Sat Jul 11 19:50:55 2009 From: riga_fire at yahoo.com (Paul Russell) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Any Michigan Shows Message-ID: <887054.73490.qm@web31810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Send me an e-mail to: riga_fire at yahoo.com and I will send you a PDF of the show adds that are in the Farmers Advance for this year ? ________________________________ From: Ed stoller To: The SEL email discussion list Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:36:58 PM Subject: [SEL] Any Michigan Shows When and where are the engine shows in Michigan please?? Reference,Sharing_Small_Engine_Secrets at yahoogroups.com Thanks Ed,? I got it now ....? There are several shows around the Michigan area yearly and I did not know the true history and how they evolved .. I will make it a point to attend a show ... Who knows, there may be one around here this weekend ... Fred B? ( moderator ) Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bvandragt at comcast.net Sat Jul 11 21:12:24 2009 From: bvandragt at comcast.net (Brian VanDragt) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:12:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Any Michigan Shows In-Reply-To: <49E9A95AA7F54303BF05527592BC202B@Ed> Message-ID: July 16-18 Riverbend Steam and Gas Show - Allendale, MI www.riverbendsteamandgas.i8.com Aug 13-16 Buckley Old Engine Show - Buckley, MI www.buckleyoldengineshow.org Aug 21-23 Mid Michigan Old Gas Tractor Association Show - Oakley, MI http://mmogta.org Sept 10-13 Michigan Flywheelers Antique Engine and Tractor Show - South Haven, MI www.michiganflywheelers.org -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Ed stoller Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:37 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Any Michigan Shows When and where are the engine shows in Michigan please?? Reference,Sharing_Small_Engine_Secrets at yahoogroups.com Thanks Ed, I got it now .... There are several shows around the Michigan area yearly and I did not know the true history and how they evolved .. I will make it a point to attend a show ... Who knows, there may be one around here this weekend ... Fred B ( moderator ) Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Sat Jul 11 21:20:19 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:20:19 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Any Michigan Shows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EA0A366-9F01-40CF-91C7-3BEFC81A4186@me.com> There are MANY pages of MI shows in the _Show Directory_. Why not buy one? Dave On Jul 11, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Brian VanDragt wrote: > July 16-18 Riverbend Steam and Gas Show - Allendale, MI > www.riverbendsteamandgas.i8.com > Aug 13-16 Buckley Old Engine Show - Buckley, MI www.buckleyoldengineshow.org > Aug 21-23 Mid Michigan Old Gas Tractor Association Show - Oakley, MI > http://mmogta.org > Sept 10-13 Michigan Flywheelers Antique Engine and Tractor Show - > South > Haven, MI www.michiganflywheelers.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On Behalf Of Ed > stoller > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:37 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: [SEL] Any Michigan Shows > > > When and where are the engine shows in Michigan please?? > > Reference,Sharing_Small_Engine_Secrets at yahoogroups.com > > Thanks Ed, I got it now .... There are several shows around the > Michigan > area yearly and I did not know the true history and how they > evolved .. I > will make it a point to attend a show ... Who knows, there may be > one around > here this weekend ... > > Fred B ( moderator ) > > Ed Stoller > New Fairfield, CT > http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From plowe at exemail.com.au Sun Jul 12 04:10:42 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:10:42 +1000 Subject: [SEL] auction bargain Message-ID: <3769846FCD564A5E9762276624F58FC0@peterlowe> Hi All How is this for an auction report from a lucky R&V buyer. He went with $1500 to buy the R&V and came back with more than a bargain. $400 for the 1hp "L", R & V, complete including original skids, battery box, coil and some old eveready No. 16 dry cells . 11/2 Fairbanks Morris headless on a nice waterloo Boy cart $550 2 HP witte with a new gas tank very good compression $350. IHC LA 1/12-2/12 complete $350. Economy 11/2 JK Parts engine $10.. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines From fbi at insulate.co.uk Sun Jul 12 06:12:31 2009 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:12:31 +0100 Subject: [SEL] My bad, was RE: Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <20090712040149.48AE8678447@secure.fsr.com> References: <20090712040149.48AE8678447@secure.fsr.com> Message-ID: <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> Hi Orrin I had a real struggle sorting the pictures out. Over the 3 days of the show, I took 400 pictures, and used over 200 of them on the website. I TRIED to be organised, and take pictures of display boards etc, but I kept forgetting. Also I'd take several pictures of the same engine on different days, so they weren't all neatly together. With the East German inverted display, I finally resorted to putting them all on the same page rather than trying to spot the difference! It was difficult to tell which of their engines were original and which were replicas. So many of the engines had stories to tell (one of the reasons why I tried to get more pictures this time of the owners with their engines; they are justifiably proud of what they've achieved), but I couldn't remember all the details. My favourite engine http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/83a.htm was the subject of an early 20th century legal dispute. The Czech maker had directly copied an American design (typically, I can't remember which one, but it reminds me a lot of a Fairbanks Morse T) and was sued by that manufacturer. So he paid his fine, stopped making them and promptly started copying another type of engine (possibly Amanco). The wonderful thing about Nuenen is that you're never sure how to cross the language barrier. Will the owner be English, Dutch, Belgian, French, German, Hungarian etc etc, and which language will they speak? It was amazing how much of a conversation could be had in two completely different languages, plus a lot of gestures! I also noticed during one conversation that the engine owner was familiar with technical engine terms, but struggled with some every day conversational language! Anyway, I'm glad you're enjoying the pictures, and hope they give some idea of what a very special show it is. Regards, Dolly Orrin B Iseminger wrote: > Dolly -- > > Ah, I get it now. My bad. > > Sorry to raise an alarm. > > Orrin > > Orrin Iseminger > > -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From frappi at wcoil.com Sun Jul 12 07:28:47 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:28:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] auction bargain In-Reply-To: <3769846FCD564A5E9762276624F58FC0@peterlowe> References: <3769846FCD564A5E9762276624F58FC0@peterlowe> Message-ID: <20090712142832.148E21D0CB8@mail04.wcoil.com> An IHC LA LB brings nearly as much as a 1 hp R&V Go Figure. Mark At 07:10 AM 7/12/2009, you wrote: >Hi All > >How is this for an auction report from a lucky R&V buyer. >He went with $1500 to buy the R&V and came back with more than a bargain. > >$400 for the 1hp "L", R & V, complete including original skids, >battery box, coil and some old eveready No. 16 dry cells . >11/2 Fairbanks Morris headless on a nice waterloo Boy cart $550 >2 HP witte with a new gas tank very good compression $350. >IHC LA 1/12-2/12 complete $350. >Economy 11/2 JK Parts engine $10.. > >Regards >Peter Lowe >R&V Engine Registrar >Australia >http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >Skype name: ozengines >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.11/2232 - Release Date: >07/11/09 17:56:00 Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for this Country! Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From obise at moscow.com Sun Jul 12 08:12:44 2009 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:12:44 -0700 Subject: [SEL] My bad, was RE: Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <20090712151304.8C9676787D2@secure.fsr.com> Dolly -- That's what I concluded when I finally saw the light. Thank you for your very interesting observations. Best regards, Orrin Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Jim French Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 6:13 AM To: ATIS Stationary Engine List Subject: Re: [SEL] My bad, was RE: Nuenen 2009 With the East German inverted display, I finally resorted to putting them all on the same page rather than trying to spot the difference! From rob at rustyiron.com Sun Jul 12 10:45:47 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:45:47 -0700 Subject: [SEL] My bad In-Reply-To: <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> References: <20090712040149.48AE8678447@secure.fsr.com> <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: On Jul 12, 2009, at 6:12 AM, Jim French wrote: > I had a real struggle sorting the pictures out. Yeah, with all those boring inverted engines, I can understand why you would "dustbin" them all onto one page ;-) It seems you're in your "critique" mode. Please allow me to spew some impressions. 1. The "additional views" along the top are a nice touch. The primary viewing experience is not overwhelmed by multiple pictures of the same engine, but more views are available for those viewers who have particular interest in an engine. It must have taken considerable effort to organize the images to such a degree. Nice work. 2. Your very pleasing use of color is not lost upon this troglodyte. I can't match a shirt and pants to save my life, but I recognize complementary tones when I see 'em. Very pretty. 3. Minor beef: the thumbnails are a bit "petite." I'd like to see them 50% larger. Even the main images could be larger, to get the full visual impact and detail. 4. The server is as slow as snot in molasses in January. One question: Did you bring your cleaning supplies to spiffy up the area around all the engines that you shot? Many times the photographer's challenge is finding an engine that isn't surrounded by half-eaten sandwiches, plastic oil cans, and dirty rags. Could it be that Euros are tidier than Yanks? Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com From marinesurveys at msn.com Sun Jul 12 11:26:27 2009 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:26:27 -0400 Subject: [SEL] My bad In-Reply-To: References: <20090712040149.48AE8678447@secure.fsr.com> <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: "Cuz Rob" Very good "critique" & my comment is, "shirt and pants" matching, is not a requirement, being dressed however, is usually a social requirement :-) Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: rob at rustyiron.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:45:47 -0700 > Subject: Re: [SEL] My bad > > On Jul 12, 2009, at 6:12 AM, Jim French wrote: > > I had a real struggle sorting the pictures out. > > > Yeah, with all those boring inverted engines, I can understand why you > would "dustbin" them all onto one page ;-) > > It seems you're in your "critique" mode. Please allow me to spew some > impressions. > > 1. The "additional views" along the top are a nice touch. The > primary viewing experience is not overwhelmed by multiple pictures of > the same engine, but more views are available for those viewers who > have particular interest in an engine. It must have taken > considerable effort to organize the images to such a degree. Nice work. > > 2. Your very pleasing use of color is not lost upon this troglodyte. > I can't match a shirt and pants to save my life, but I recognize > complementary tones when I see 'em. Very pretty. > > 3. Minor beef: the thumbnails are a bit "petite." I'd like to see > them 50% larger. Even the main images could be larger, to get the > full visual impact and detail. > > 4. The server is as slow as snot in molasses in January. > > One question: Did you bring your cleaning supplies to spiffy up the > area around all the engines that you shot? Many times the > photographer's challenge is finding an engine that isn't surrounded by > half-eaten sandwiches, plastic oil cans, and dirty rags. Could it be > that Euros are tidier than Yanks? > > > Rob Skinner > Antique Stationary Engines > La Habra, California > > rob at rustyiron.com > www.rustyiron.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Sun Jul 12 11:27:45 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:27:45 -0700 Subject: [SEL] My bad In-Reply-To: References: <20090712040149.48AE8678447@secure.fsr.com> <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <64F76B8B-F7F3-4AFA-985E-2E3AD4FADC80@me.com> On Jul 12, 2009, at 10:45 AM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > > 3. Minor beef: the thumbnails are a bit "petite." I'd like to see > them 50% larger. Even the main images could be larger, to get the > full visual impact and detail. > Rob Skinner Hi Rob, They tell me that the eyes are ALWAYS the second thing to go! Dave From fbi at insulate.co.uk Sun Jul 12 11:37:52 2009 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:37:52 +0100 Subject: [SEL] My bad In-Reply-To: References: <20090712040149.48AE8678447@secure.fsr.com> <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <4A5A2D80.5080808@insulate.co.uk> Rob Skinner wrote: > > Yeah, with all those boring inverted engines, I can understand why you > would "dustbin" them all onto one page ;-) > You'd better prepare to be at Nuenen next year then. I think Anton said he was hoping to be able to make a line of at least 10 full size, original inverteds. > It seems you're in your "critique" mode. Please allow me to spew some > impressions. > Yes please. Pointers from a master are always much appreciated. > 1. The "additional views" along the top are a nice touch. The > primary viewing experience is not overwhelmed by multiple pictures of > the same engine, but more views are available for those viewers who > have particular interest in an engine. It must have taken > considerable effort to organize the images to such a degree. Nice work. > I'm quite sure that someone who knows what they're doing with web creation software could do it in minutes. Takes me hours!!!!! > 2. Your very pleasing use of color is not lost upon this troglodyte. > I can't match a shirt and pants to save my life, but I recognize > complementary tones when I see 'em. Very pretty. > http://www.coffeecup.com/color-schemer/ > 3. Minor beef: the thumbnails are a bit "petite." I'd like to see > them 50% larger. Even the main images could be larger, to get the > full visual impact and detail. > I've been wondering about sizes for a while. To be honest, I've not moved on much from advice you gave on list to budding webmasters a VERY long time ago. I think back then you recommended 80px for thumbnails at 400px for full size; I've moved up to 100px and 600px ... what's your recommendation for the 2009 standard of computing and internet speeds? > 4. The server is as slow as snot in molasses in January. > It usually is. But then, they say you get what you pay for and Oldengine.org is free, so I'm happy enough with it! > One question: Did you bring your cleaning supplies to spiffy up the > area around all the engines that you shot? Many times the > photographer's challenge is finding an engine that isn't surrounded by > half-eaten sandwiches, plastic oil cans, and dirty rags. Could it be > that Euros are tidier than Yanks? > We are a civilised part of the world you know. And the showground was out of town, so no danger of littering McD wrappers! My usual problem is trying to avoid plastic safety fencing, but Nuenen had only a single line of rope to protect innocent victims - I mean visitors - from attacking flywheels and such like. Dolly -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From steve_royster at hotmail.com Sun Jul 12 12:00:04 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:00:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: Great Job Dolly, Why you even beat Arnie getting his photos uploaded for us. ..... but he's working on the Lorenz Registry, right Arnie????? > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:19:02 +0100 > From: fbi at insulate.co.uk > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 > > Hi All > > I realise I've been very slow in getting the webpages done for the > Nuenen show, but at least I've got pictures available for everyone to > enjoy before anyone who went on the EHOWT09 has done! > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/nuenen1.htm > > Dolly > > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jul 12 12:35:40 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:35:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <006601ca0327$f089c8d0$83674b47@mikecomp> I was most impressed and it made want to go back. However Steve is wrong, Arnie is working on restoring the Fero compressor, the Lorenz registry comes way after that project. MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 Great Job Dolly, Why you even beat Arnie getting his photos uploaded for us. ..... but he's working on the Lorenz Registry, right Arnie????? > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:19:02 +0100 > From: fbi at insulate.co.uk > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 > > Hi All > > I realise I've been very slow in getting the webpages done for the > Nuenen show, but at least I've got pictures available for everyone to > enjoy before anyone who went on the EHOWT09 has done! > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/nuenen1.htm > > Dolly > > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jul 12 12:48:12 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] My bad, was RE: Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> References: <20090712040149.48AE8678447@secure.fsr.com> <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Dolly, You have indeed hit upon one of the really unique aspects of Nuenen. I've participated in a number of those conversations, EXACTLY as you describe. And both the engine owner and I parted ways happier for the experience. I can't wait till Nuenen 2010! EHOWT10 anyone? Meow!! 8-)) See ya, Arnie On Sun, July 12, 2009 9:12 am, Jim French wrote: > The wonderful thing about Nuenen is that you're never sure how to cross > the language barrier. Will the owner be English, Dutch, Belgian, > French, German, Hungarian etc etc, and which language will they speak? > It was amazing how much of a conversation could be had in two completely > different languages, plus a lot of gestures! I also noticed during one > conversation that the engine owner was familiar with technical engine > terms, but struggled with some every day conversational language! From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jul 12 12:55:40 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:55:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <2a9a5362b71ffa27c08117f3969cfd24.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Erp... Hmmmm. Damn, you caught me napping there. Now what was it we were talking about? On Sun, July 12, 2009 3:00 pm, Steve Royster wrote: > > Great Job Dolly, Why you even beat Arnie getting his photos uploaded for us. ..... > but he's working on the Lorenz Registry, right Arnie????? From fbi at insulate.co.uk Sun Jul 12 12:50:48 2009 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:50:48 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <006601ca0327$f089c8d0$83674b47@mikecomp> References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> <006601ca0327$f089c8d0$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <4A5A3E98.5070705@insulate.co.uk> I think you'll find that before ALL those things comes "The Yank Returns Again", the trip report from 2002. Then the various subsequant trips. Dolly Mike Royster wrote: > I was most impressed and it made want to go back. However Steve is wrong, > Arnie is working on restoring the Fero compressor, the Lorenz registry comes > way after that project. > > MR > -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From rob at rustyiron.com Sun Jul 12 12:52:47 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:52:47 -0700 Subject: [SEL] My bad In-Reply-To: References: <20090712040149.48AE8678447@secure.fsr.com> <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: Hey, Cuz. I never would have thought you hillbillies were so prudish. Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com On Jul 12, 2009, at 11:26 AM, frank skinner wrote: > being dressed however, is usually a social requirement :-) From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Jul 12 13:21:07 2009 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:21:07 -0400 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2FD9231E5AF74F5992FDF90971BFB9F4@DBTOA000> Steve, I hope you made it home from my place in one piece. Thanks. Tommy -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve Royster Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:00 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 Great Job Dolly, Why you even beat Arnie getting his photos uploaded for us. ..... but he's working on the Lorenz Registry, right Arnie????? > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:19:02 +0100 > From: fbi at insulate.co.uk > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 > > Hi All > > I realise I've been very slow in getting the webpages done for the > Nuenen show, but at least I've got pictures available for everyone to > enjoy before anyone who went on the EHOWT09 has done! > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/nuenen1.htm > > Dolly > > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows LiveT SkyDriveT: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Sun Jul 12 13:24:45 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:24:45 -0700 Subject: [SEL] My bad In-Reply-To: <4A5A2D80.5080808@insulate.co.uk> References: <20090712040149.48AE8678447@secure.fsr.com> <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> <4A5A2D80.5080808@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <2A646E27-EDCF-4E39-8AD8-9170D773DC12@rustyiron.com> > I've been wondering about sizes for a while. It's twue, it's twue! Sorry, Jim. > what's your > recommendation for the 2009 standard of computing and internet speeds? Translation: "Rob, take off your shirt and hold still while I paint this bullseye on your back." That's ok, I'll play. That was a long time ago, but my thought process is the same. Computer displays and internet speeds are improving exponentially, and a web page that is "ok" today will be totally lame in a couple years. Considering the amount of time required to build a good page, I prefer to "go big" to ensure that the web page will stay fresh a little longer. To answer your question numerically, on a web page I do by hand, I like the images to be 800x600 with compression that doesn't damage quality much. Sometimes I use an automated web page generator so I can get a fancy "pimped out" look. It displays the main picture at about 550 pixels wide and I can't adjust it. It does, however, let me serve up a full size image at 1280 wide. THAT is the size that I like to see pictures, but it's not practical for the main web page. The result of these ideas is that the pictures will look great for someone with a modern computer and high-speed internet access. For someone with an eight year old computer, it's likely to be an unsatisfying experience. > We are a civilised part of the world you know. And the showground was > out of town, so no danger of littering McD wrappers! My usual problem > is trying to avoid plastic safety fencing, but Nuenen had only a > single > line of rope to protect innocent victims - I mean visitors - from > attacking flywheels and such like. You mean Aussie style fence? Rope is easy?just ask the engine owner if you can take down the rope to get your shot. I've never been denied photograhic access. Even the most curmudgeonly engineman will acquiesce if there's a chance of being published or if the photographer is a cute lass who will add to the aesthetic component of his display. Rob From rob at rustyiron.com Sun Jul 12 13:31:52 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:31:52 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A5A3E98.5070705@insulate.co.uk> References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> <006601ca0327$f089c8d0$83674b47@mikecomp> <4A5A3E98.5070705@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <990B69F7-33EB-415C-BE50-82463EB51C57@rustyiron.com> On Jul 12, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Jim French wrote: > I think you'll find that before ALL those things comes "The Yank > Returns > Again", the trip report from 2002. Then the various subsequant trips. > > Dolly Arnie, Just take your digital camera to Walmart and have them make some prints. Then type out your story on your computer (edlin?), and print it out on your dot matrix printer. Stick it all in a 9x12 envelope and send it off to Dolly. She can turn it into a web page for you. Rob http://tinyurl.com/k3qi From marinesurveys at msn.com Sun Jul 12 13:47:07 2009 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:47:07 -0400 Subject: [SEL] My bad In-Reply-To: References: <20090712040149.48AE8678447@secure.fsr.com> <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: Well Rob,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, its really all those pesky bugs :-} Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: rob at rustyiron.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:52:47 -0700 > Subject: Re: [SEL] My bad > > Hey, Cuz. I never would have thought you hillbillies were so prudish. > > > Rob Skinner > Antique Stationary Engines > La Habra, California > > rob at rustyiron.com > www.rustyiron.com > > > > > > On Jul 12, 2009, at 11:26 AM, frank skinner wrote: > > > being dressed however, is usually a social requirement :-) > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jul 12 14:26:55 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:26:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A5A3E98.5070705@insulate.co.uk> References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> <006601ca0327$f089c8d0$83674b47@mikecomp> <4A5A3E98.5070705@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <5490be3c6122ddea218f6f6603dd02de.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> I think I need an assistant... On Sun, July 12, 2009 3:50 pm, Jim French wrote: > I think you'll find that before ALL those things comes "The Yank Returns > Again", the trip report from 2002. Then the various subsequant trips. > > Dolly > > Mike Royster wrote: >> I was most impressed and it made want to go back. However Steve is wrong, >> Arnie is working on restoring the Fero compressor, the Lorenz registry comes >> way after that project. From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jul 12 14:31:19 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:31:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder In-Reply-To: <2FD9231E5AF74F5992FDF90971BFB9F4@DBTOA000> References: <2FD9231E5AF74F5992FDF90971BFB9F4@DBTOA000> Message-ID: <0f7c67a4213ec1ce0fc290601173de5b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hey Tommy, There's a rumor going around that the plunder that left your place with those two scalliwag Cloistered Oysters was SUCH a haul that they're taking all back roads going home to avoid troopers with portable scales. Can you shed any light on the weekend's events? Pictures (or mug shots) would be even better. See ya, Arnie On Sun, July 12, 2009 4:21 pm, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > > Steve, I hope you made it home from my place in one piece. Thanks. From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jul 12 14:33:21 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <990B69F7-33EB-415C-BE50-82463EB51C57@rustyiron.com> References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> <006601ca0327$f089c8d0$83674b47@mikecomp> <4A5A3E98.5070705@insulate.co.uk> <990B69F7-33EB-415C-BE50-82463EB51C57@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <5b0666f5a1d291d96ab8e23a2f95f447.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hmmmmm, methinks I'm being abused.... On Sun, July 12, 2009 4:31 pm, Rob Skinner wrote: > Just take your digital camera to Walmart and have them make some > prints. Then type out your story on your computer (edlin?), and print > it out on your dot matrix printer. Stick it all in a 9x12 envelope > and send it off to Dolly. She can turn it into a web page for you. From rotigel at me.com Sun Jul 12 14:46:21 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:46:21 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: On Jul 11, 2009, at 8:19 AM, Jim French wrote: > Hi All > > I realise I've been very slow in getting the webpages done for the > Nuenen show, but at least I've got pictures available for everyone to > enjoy before anyone who went on the EHOWT09 has done! > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/nuenen1.htm > > Dolly Hi Dolly, GREAT pictures. I really enjoyed them! I do wish, however, that when someone posts engine pictures that they would not include pictures of people with the engines. It really gets in the way of enjoying the finer points of the engines, and after all that's why most of us go to shows! Dave PS, Tell Jim I said THANKS for his letting you use HIS computer! (You surely have a loving and caring husband there!) From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Jul 12 14:58:29 2009 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:58:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder In-Reply-To: <0f7c67a4213ec1ce0fc290601173de5b.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Well Arnie, all I can tell you is I went to the shop yesterday morning and didn't have room to park a push mower. This morning I went up there and now I can park a semi in it! Not sure if someone spiked my Diet Pepsi while I wasn't looking yesterday or what. All I can say is watch those guys from NC! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:31 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder Hey Tommy, There's a rumor going around that the plunder that left your place with those two scalliwag Cloistered Oysters was SUCH a haul that they're taking all back roads going home to avoid troopers with portable scales. Can you shed any light on the weekend's events? Pictures (or mug shots) would be even better. See ya, Arnie On Sun, July 12, 2009 4:21 pm, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > > Steve, I hope you made it home from my place in one piece. Thanks. _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Sun Jul 12 15:14:06 2009 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:14:06 EDT Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder Message-ID: Tommy I am always looking to empty a few pieces out of a guys shop. You need to make some more room? KK In a message dated 7/12/2009 3:05:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: Well Arnie, all I can tell you is I went to the shop yesterday morning and didn't have room to park a push mower. This morning I went up there and now I can park a semi in it! Not sure if someone spiked my Diet Pepsi while I wasn't looking yesterday or what. All I can say is watch those guys from NC! Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:31 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder Hey Tommy, There's a rumor going around that the plunder that left your place with those two scalliwag Cloistered Oysters was SUCH a haul that they're taking all back roads going home to avoid troopers with portable scales. Can you shed any light on the weekend's events? Pictures (or mug shots) would be even better. See ya, Arnie On Sun, July 12, 2009 4:21 pm, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > > Steve, I hope you made it home from my place in one piece. Thanks. **************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003) From mr at carolina.rr.com Sun Jul 12 15:31:20 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:31:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder References: Message-ID: <002b01ca0340$7b423fd0$83674b47@mikecomp> It was the dangdest thing. Steve and Tommy hunkered down over in the corner and went to swapping dollars, then I saw Steve and Tommy toast the deal with some diet Pepsis Steve had in his cooler. Next thing I know Tommy is all swimmy headed and sits down over in the lounge chair and gets real sleepy like. Steve then tells me he and Tommy struck a new deal and we were to hook up to Tommy's big trailer and load the truck and trailer. Before you know it, we had a load of Hagans, Geisers and Ottos (oh my) and some of the nicest carts too. But before we left, Steve went over and drug Tommy under the shade so he wouldn't burn in that hot sun. My brother is considerate like that. As we drove out the driveway Tommy decided he was through napping and started waiving something fierce, you could tell he was choked up a bit and staggering a might too. Well, being southern and all, we waived back and hollered back too. I could here him saying "Yall come back here!!" He was already missing us something powerful. And then Steve muttered something soft like "oh we will Tommy, we sure will." This engine friendship is a powerful bond. My brother has that effect on folks......... MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder > Well Arnie, all I can tell you is I went to the shop yesterday morning > and didn't have room to park a push mower. This morning I went up there > and now I can park a semi in it! Not sure if someone spiked my Diet > Pepsi while I wasn't looking yesterday or what. All I can say is watch > those guys from NC! > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:31 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder > > Hey Tommy, > > There's a rumor going around that the plunder that left your place with > those two > scalliwag Cloistered Oysters was SUCH a haul that they're taking all > back roads > going home to avoid troopers with portable scales. > > Can you shed any light on the weekend's events? Pictures (or mug shots) > would be > even better. > > See ya, Arnie > > On Sun, July 12, 2009 4:21 pm, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: >> >> Steve, I hope you made it home from my place in one piece. Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From paulmaples at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 12 16:04:14 2009 From: paulmaples at sbcglobal.net (paulmaples at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:04:14 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <3BEF0333DB1E4A20A44866A5C3262D2A@PAUL> Great pictures and captions Dolly, thanks for taking the time and effort to put this together so those of us who were not fortunate enough to attend could see the fine engine displays. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim French" To: "ATIS Stationary Engine List" Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:19 AM Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 > Hi All > > I realise I've been very slow in getting the webpages done for the > Nuenen show, but at least I've got pictures available for everyone to > enjoy before anyone who went on the EHOWT09 has done! > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/nuenen1.htm > > Dolly > > -- > From Lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Jul 12 16:16:49 2009 From: Lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:16:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder In-Reply-To: <002b01ca0340$7b423fd0$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: Darn Mike, I want to be hospitable...... but!!!!! The last fellas that came in here were from California. I tried to be hospitable to them and gave 'em some hunks of cheese and crackers. With you NC boys, I gave you some hunks of iron and got cracked! What's the world coming to? Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mike Royster Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 6:31 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder It was the dangdest thing. Steve and Tommy hunkered down over in the corner and went to swapping dollars, then I saw Steve and Tommy toast the deal with some diet Pepsis Steve had in his cooler. Next thing I know Tommy is all swimmy headed and sits down over in the lounge chair and gets real sleepy like. Steve then tells me he and Tommy struck a new deal and we were to hook up to Tommy's big trailer and load the truck and trailer. Before you know it, we had a load of Hagans, Geisers and Ottos (oh my) and some of the nicest carts too. But before we left, Steve went over and drug Tommy under the shade so he wouldn't burn in that hot sun. My brother is considerate like that. As we drove out the driveway Tommy decided he was through napping and started waiving something fierce, you could tell he was choked up a bit and staggering a might too. Well, being southern and all, we waived back and hollered back too. I could here him saying "Yall come back here!!" He was already missing us something powerful. And then Steve muttered something soft like "oh we will Tommy, we sure will." This engine friendship is a powerful bond. My brother has that effect on folks......... MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder > Well Arnie, all I can tell you is I went to the shop yesterday morning > and didn't have room to park a push mower. This morning I went up there > and now I can park a semi in it! Not sure if someone spiked my Diet > Pepsi while I wasn't looking yesterday or what. All I can say is watch > those guys from NC! > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:31 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder > > Hey Tommy, > > There's a rumor going around that the plunder that left your place with > those two > scalliwag Cloistered Oysters was SUCH a haul that they're taking all > back roads > going home to avoid troopers with portable scales. > > Can you shed any light on the weekend's events? Pictures (or mug shots) > would be > even better. > > See ya, Arnie > > On Sun, July 12, 2009 4:21 pm, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: >> >> Steve, I hope you made it home from my place in one piece. Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.6/2221 - Release Date: 07/12/09 08:20:00 From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Sun Jul 12 16:29:28 2009 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:29:28 EDT Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder Message-ID: Moon shine Tommy. Those NC mountains are always smokin. KK In a message dated 7/12/2009 7:25:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Lcjudge at scrtc.com writes: Darn Mike, I want to be hospitable...... but!!!!! The last fellas that came in here were from California. I tried to be hospitable to them and gave 'em some hunks of cheese and crackers. With you NC boys, I gave you some hunks of iron and got cracked! What's the world coming to? Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY **************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003) From flywheelin at hotmail.com Sun Jul 12 16:50:28 2009 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:50:28 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Any Michigan Shows In-Reply-To: <49E9A95AA7F54303BF05527592BC202B@Ed> References: <49E9A95AA7F54303BF05527592BC202B@Ed> Message-ID: Hi Ed, My local show is this coming weekend. July 16, 17, 18. It is located just west of Grand Rapids, MI. http://riverbendsteamandgas.i8.com/tyshow.html If steam is your thing there is a really good one in Mason August 1. Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ==================================== > From: edstoller at earthlink.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:36:58 -0400 > Subject: [SEL] Any Michigan Shows > > When and where are the engine shows in Michigan please?? > > Reference,Sharing_Small_Engine_Secrets at yahoogroups.com > > Thanks Ed, I got it now .... There are several shows around the Michigan > area yearly and I did not know the true history and how they evolved .. I > will make it a point to attend a show ... Who knows, there may be one around > here this weekend ... > > Fred B ( moderator ) > > Ed Stoller > New Fairfield, CT > http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/ > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 From steve_royster at hotmail.com Sun Jul 12 17:00:00 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:00:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <2FD9231E5AF74F5992FDF90971BFB9F4@DBTOA000> References: <2FD9231E5AF74F5992FDF90971BFB9F4@DBTOA000> Message-ID: Well Tommy, Ya forgot to tell us about those Kentucky constables, We encountered alittle resistance trying to haul off your old reject iron, but my brother,the silver tongued devil he is, soon had us on our way again and we made it home with the loot just fine. We even had a crankup this morning after we got the ignitor unstuck and the dirt daubers out of the mixer. I'll let Mike tell the rest of the story. Thanks for a great day. Steve > From: lcjudge at scrtc.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:21:07 -0400 > Subject: [SEL] (no subject) > > Steve, I hope you made it home from my place in one piece. Thanks. > > Tommy > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Steve > Royster > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:00 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 > > > Great Job Dolly, Why you even beat Arnie getting his photos uploaded for > us. ..... but he's working on the Lorenz Registry, right Arnie????? > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:19:02 +0100 > > From: fbi at insulate.co.uk > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 > > > > Hi All > > > > I realise I've been very slow in getting the webpages done for the > > Nuenen show, but at least I've got pictures available for everyone to > > enjoy before anyone who went on the EHOWT09 has done! > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/nuenen1.htm > > > > Dolly > > > > -- > > Jim French > > fbi at insulate.co.uk > > http://www.insulate.co.uk > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows LiveT SkyDriveT: Get 25 GB of free online storage. > http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Sun Jul 12 17:06:56 2009 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:06:56 EDT Subject: [SEL] (no subject) Message-ID: Steve I probably have missed half the story what did Tommy let go? Getting into KY is good but getting out with old iron MMMMMMMMMMMM. KK In a message dated 7/12/2009 5:05:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, steve_royster at hotmail.com writes: Well Tommy, Ya forgot to tell us about those Kentucky constables, We encountered alittle resistance trying to haul off your old reject iron, but my brother,the silver tongued devil he is, soon had us on our way again and we made it home with the loot just fine. We even had a crankup this morning after we got the ignitor unstuck and the dirt daubers out of the mixer. I'll let Mike tell the rest of the story. Thanks for a great day. Steve **************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003) From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jul 12 19:40:27 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8b3a7aec8f2cc8c98ead4e164ce55336.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Well Tommy, I do feel bad. I should have warned you. I spent the better part of two weeks visiting high-end engine collectors in the Netherlands, Germany, and Belgium with those Cloistered Oyster scamps. At every stop, there they'd be off in a corner, a plottin' and a schemin', pointin' this way and that. I think the only thing that saved those collections was the fact that George & Harry didn't have a trailer draggin' behind that van. So after two weeks of that full-time temptation... Meow! Well, it must be like that good ol' boy who agreed to watch the titty bar for his friend who was the owner. After two weeks of being able to look but not touch, well he was fit to explode. I think that's the condition the Cloistered Oysters were it. They had you out matched Tommy. And no one warned you. Sorry 'bout that. See ya, Arnie On Sun, July 12, 2009 5:58 pm, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: > Well Arnie, all I can tell you is I went to the shop yesterday morning > and didn't have room to park a push mower. This morning I went up there > and now I can park a semi in it! Not sure if someone spiked my Diet > Pepsi while I wasn't looking yesterday or what. All I can say is watch > those guys from NC! > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:31 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder > > Hey Tommy, > > There's a rumor going around that the plunder that left your place with > those two > scalliwag Cloistered Oysters was SUCH a haul that they're taking all > back roads > going home to avoid troopers with portable scales. > > Can you shed any light on the weekend's events? Pictures (or mug shots) > would be > even better. > > See ya, Arnie > > On Sun, July 12, 2009 4:21 pm, Judge Tommy Turner wrote: >> >> Steve, I hope you made it home from my place in one piece. Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Sun Jul 12 21:05:16 2009 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:05:16 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder In-Reply-To: <8b3a7aec8f2cc8c98ead4e164ce55336.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <679FA2B88D464A6C99628E91930398C1@DBTOA000> Darn right they did Arnie! These two worked together as well as any wrestling tag team I've ever seen. They also pulled a bit of the "good cop/bad cop" routine.... although I've yet to figure out which one was truly the "good" one (they both hosed me over pretty good I think). Oh well, its just live and learn around the Turner engine shed. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY They had you out matched Tommy. And no one warned you. Sorry 'bout that. See ya, Arnie From al.harris at rustic-engines.com Sun Jul 12 21:52:23 2009 From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:52:23 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Ignition paper for Field Marshall In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A5ABD87.3010306@rustic-engines.com> Attn everybody, an owner of a FM tractor is running low on ignition strips (touch paper) to start it. Does anybody (silly me) know the strength of saltpetre solution (potassium nitrate) to soak the blotting paper in, so that the right amount of crystals are left in the dried paper to give a good burn. TIA, Al Harris Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com From plowe at exemail.com.au Sun Jul 12 23:52:15 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:52:15 +1000 Subject: [SEL] auction bargain References: <3769846FCD564A5E9762276624F58FC0@peterlowe> <20090712142832.148E21D0CB8@mail04.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <38E959F4E03C4358807954E1A92EA295@peterlowe> A pig is worth as much as an R&V, very strange ;-))) Peter, Oz > An IHC LA LB brings nearly as much as a 1 hp R&V Go Figure. Mark > > > At 07:10 AM 7/12/2009, you wrote: >>Hi All >> >>How is this for an auction report from a lucky R&V buyer. >>He went with $1500 to buy the R&V and came back with more than a bargain. >> >>$400 for the 1hp "L", R & V, complete including original skids, >>battery box, coil and some old eveready No. 16 dry cells . >>11/2 Fairbanks Morris headless on a nice waterloo Boy cart $550 >>2 HP witte with a new gas tank very good compression $350. >>IHC LA 1/12-2/12 complete $350. >>Economy 11/2 JK Parts engine $10.. >> >>Regards >>Peter Lowe >>R&V Engine Registrar >>Australia >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm >>Skype name: ozengines >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.11/2232 - Release Date: >>07/11/09 17:56:00 > > Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for > this Country! > > Mark Shulaw > 454 Co. Rd. 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From mr at carolina.rr.com Mon Jul 13 03:48:55 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:48:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder References: <679FA2B88D464A6C99628E91930398C1@DBTOA000> Message-ID: <001701ca03a7$852078c0$83674b47@mikecomp> Why it's as easy to tell as the French twins. Steve (evil) has that souless eye stare hypnotizing look, and Mike (good) looks like a choir boy, some say you can even see the halo over him and hear harp music while around him. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder > Darn right they did Arnie! These two worked together as well as any > wrestling tag team I've ever seen. They also pulled a bit of the "good > cop/bad cop" routine.... although I've yet to figure out which one was > truly the "good" one (they both hosed me over pretty good I think). Oh > well, its just live and learn around the Turner engine shed. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > > They had you out matched Tommy. And no one warned you. Sorry 'bout > that. > > See ya, Arnie > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From marinesurveys at msn.com Mon Jul 13 04:02:32 2009 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:02:32 -0400 Subject: [SEL] auction bargain In-Reply-To: <38E959F4E03C4358807954E1A92EA295@peterlowe> References: <3769846FCD564A5E9762276624F58FC0@peterlowe> <20090712142832.148E21D0CB8@mail04.wcoil.com> <38E959F4E03C4358807954E1A92EA295@peterlowe> Message-ID: But you can train a pig to do what a good R/V can do ;-} Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: plowe at exemail.com.au > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:52:15 +1000 > Subject: Re: [SEL] auction bargain > > A pig is worth as much as an R&V, very strange ;-))) > Peter, Oz > > > > > An IHC LA LB brings nearly as much as a 1 hp R&V Go Figure. Mark > > > > > > At 07:10 AM 7/12/2009, you wrote: > >>Hi All > >> > >>How is this for an auction report from a lucky R&V buyer. > >>He went with $1500 to buy the R&V and came back with more than a bargain. > >> > >>$400 for the 1hp "L", R & V, complete including original skids, > >>battery box, coil and some old eveready No. 16 dry cells . > >>11/2 Fairbanks Morris headless on a nice waterloo Boy cart $550 > >>2 HP witte with a new gas tank very good compression $350. > >>IHC LA 1/12-2/12 complete $350. > >>Economy 11/2 JK Parts engine $10.. > >> > >>Regards > >>Peter Lowe > >>R&V Engine Registrar > >>Australia > >>http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm > >>Skype name: ozengines > >>_______________________________________________ > >>SEL mailing list > >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >> > >>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.11/2232 - Release Date: > >>07/11/09 17:56:00 > > > > Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for > > this Country! > > > > Mark Shulaw > > 454 Co. Rd. 33 > > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > > USA > > > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Mon Jul 13 04:23:18 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:23:18 +1000 Subject: [SEL] My bad, was RE: Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A59E13F.6040004@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Dolly, your 'favourite engine' looks to be a copy of the IHC Famous vertical engine. Thanks for the great pictures. Patrick Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon Jul 13 04:27:09 2009 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:27:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder In-Reply-To: <001701ca03a7$852078c0$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: Come to think of it, I do remember faintly hearing music. Around Steve, I could hear the theme from Jaws. Thanks for straightening me out on this (Saint) Mike. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Mike Royster Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 6:49 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder Why it's as easy to tell as the French twins. Steve (evil) has that souless eye stare hypnotizing look, and Mike (good) looks like a choir boy, some say you can even see the halo over him and hear harp music while around him. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Tommy Turner" To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder > Darn right they did Arnie! These two worked together as well as any > wrestling tag team I've ever seen. They also pulled a bit of the "good > cop/bad cop" routine.... although I've yet to figure out which one was > truly the "good" one (they both hosed me over pretty good I think). Oh > well, its just live and learn around the Turner engine shed. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > > They had you out matched Tommy. And no one warned you. Sorry 'bout > that. > > See ya, Arnie > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.374 / Virus Database: 270.12.69/2176 - Release Date: 07/12/09 17:56:00 From fbi at insulate.co.uk Mon Jul 13 07:38:12 2009 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:38:12 +0100 Subject: [SEL] My bad, was RE: Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A5B46D4.6040702@insulate.co.uk> I think you're right, Patrick - I am absolutely useless at remembering the names! Dolly Patrick wrote: > Hi Dolly, > your 'favourite engine' looks to be a copy of the IHC Famous vertical > engine. > Thanks for the great pictures. > Patrick > > Patrick M Livingstone > Leichhardt NSW > http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From fbi at insulate.co.uk Mon Jul 13 07:45:01 2009 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:45:01 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <4A5B486D.6010903@insulate.co.uk> Hi Dave I have apologised for my shortcomings in this regard, and will happily do so again. That's what you get when you let a woman loose with a camera at an engine show. I now have an added problem this situation causes. I tend to go round shows on my own, and at Astle Park recently, Jim was some way behind. Someone I have never met complained to him that I'd walked past his engine and not taken a photograph of it! I can see I'm going to have to start taking pictures of every single engine, to avoid causing offence! Dolly PS Thinking about it, letting a woman loose with a camera is perhaps better in some ways than, say, letting Arnie loose at an engine show. At least you have a chance of seeing SOME of the pictures, eventually. David Rotigel wrote: > Hi Dolly, > GREAT pictures. I really enjoyed them! I do wish, however, that when > someone posts engine pictures that they would not include pictures of > people with the engines. It really gets in the way of enjoying the > finer points of the engines, and after all that's why most of us go to > shows! > Dave > PS, Tell Jim I said THANKS for his letting you use HIS computer! (You > surely have a loving and caring husband there!) > _______________________________________________ > -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From falcon at telenet.net Mon Jul 13 08:08:02 2009 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:08:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Ignition paper for Field Marshall In-Reply-To: <4A5ABD87.3010306@rustic-engines.com> References: <4A5ABD87.3010306@rustic-engines.com> Message-ID: <4A5B4DD2.4030804@telenet.net> Al Harris wrote: > Attn everybody, > > an owner of a FM tractor is running low on ignition strips (touch paper) > to start it. > > Does anybody (silly me) know the strength of saltpetre solution > (potassium nitrate) to soak the blotting paper in, so that the right > amount of crystals are left in the dried paper to give a good burn. > > TIA, > > Al Harris > Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz > > al.harris at rustic-engines.com > > I think the mix is 200 grams to 800 CC of distilled water. -- Steve W From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Jul 13 11:26:49 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:26:49 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090713201558.0184d6a8@mail.atech.co.za> At 06:00 PM 13/07/2009, you wrote: >Message: 13 >Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:31:52 -0700 >From: Rob Skinner >Subject: Re: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 >To: The SEL email discussion list > >On Jul 12, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Jim French wrote: > > > I think you'll find that before ALL those things comes "The Yank > > Returns > > Again", the trip report from 2002. Then the various subsequant trips. > > > > Dolly > > >Arnie, >Just take your digital camera to Walmart and have them make some >prints. Then type out your story on your computer (edlin?), and print >it out on your dot matrix printer. Stick it all in a 9x12 envelope >and send it off to Dolly. She can turn it into a web page for you. > >Rob >http://tinyurl.com/k3qi "edlin" ?????? Wow I Haven't seen that command for years !!!! Rob, I thought you were on "Mac" !! Jerry P.S. (Between you and I - I DID get your point.) From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Jul 13 11:35:33 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:35:33 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090713203019.0182e848@mail.atech.co.za> At 06:00 PM 13/07/2009, you wrote: >Message: 17 >From: "Arnie Fero" > >Hmmmmm, methinks I'm being abused.... Seriously !!!!! With a capital "C" (Sorry - it's a South African thing.) Jerry From rolfb at accima.com Mon Jul 13 12:07:54 2009 From: rolfb at accima.com (Bob W7AVK) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:07:54 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Lister SL-3 Help Message-ID: <4A5B860A.2070103@accima.com> Hi - Have been a list lunker for a couple years. Finally started a project of refurbishing a Lister SL-3. But have run into a problem. The engine had been sitting outside for years and is frozen. When the heads were removed found water in two cylinders. Both cylinder walls are rusted and pitted with one being much worse than the other. Seems to be where the engine is frozen, but haven't been able to pull the pistons yet. That's the next job. I'm open to suggestions as to how to proceed? What can be done to repair the cylinder? Can the cylinders be bored and over sized pistons fitted? Do such over size parts exist? And where are standard parts available, on the cheap, for the SL3? :-) Thanks for reading. Regards, Bob R Moses Lake, WA. USA From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Jul 13 13:09:36 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:09:36 +0200 Subject: [SEL] : Re: My bad-Rob/Helen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090713203836.0184aec0@mail.atech.co.za> At 06:00 PM 13/07/2009, you wrote: >From: Rob Skinner >Subject: Re: [SEL] My bad >On Jul 12, 2009, at 6:12 AM, Jim French wrote: > > I had a real struggle sorting the pictures out. > >Rob Skinner >Antique Stationary Engines >La Habra, California BUT ----------- I do agree with what ROB is saying - many years ago when I wrote my first webpage a monitor size of 640 x 480 pixels (VGA) was considered "BIG" . Then came 800 x 600 (we all said "WOW") then came something bigger - then even bigger et al (I do not want to even go there!). Monitors became "higher resolution". On my first webpages a picture (we are all only interested in looking at the pictures after all - not so) of 640 x 480 provided a really nice picture that we could all see "detail" on. Then came "Broadband" and higher Internet Connection speeds combined with higher "Monitor Resolution" which meant that many of us could download (remember that "Downloading" does not necessarily mean "saving to disk" - even "looking" at the pic in your Browser (before saving) - it means "data (or kilobytes) transferred from your server to your computer (the system has to move "bytes" or "kilobytes or "megabytes" or "whatever" and this is what you pay for). I understand that costs may differ depending on your "Global position" - In South Africa (where I am) we are limited to a "cap" (in my case 2 Gigabytes per month for the amount of money I pay) Broadband has become a lot cheaper but we, on the "oldengine" or "SEL" lists still have to consider our members who cannot access "broadband" (I was one of them until recently). I know and understand that we cannot be limited by those of us that are not lucky enough to have "broadband access". SO, Where to from here ? Sorry guys but I do not have the answer- My personal feeling is (in spite of having been a "dial-up" user for many years) - Forward (the Internet will never go backwards). Helen, I'm thinking, make your "thumbnail" a lot bigger (at least 250 pixels wide) and put 2 links to it - 1 for "low resolution" (for the "non-broadband" users) and 1 (high resolution for those of us lucky enough to have broadband). I know it's a lot of extra work (that's why I have not gone there yet) but you are, after all, our favourite "Webmistress" and we all love you. That's my bit for tonight !!!! Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From lfevans at pacbell.net Mon Jul 13 16:30:33 2009 From: lfevans at pacbell.net (Larry Evans) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:30:33 -0700 Subject: [SEL] : Re: My bad-Rob/Helen In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090713203836.0184aec0@mail.atech.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090713203836.0184aec0@mail.atech.co.za> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20090713155820.04464288@pop.att.yahoo.com> Hi........... In regards to Jerry's thoughts on web page picture size here is a small page I put together about a year ago: http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/thrall/index.htm I was kind of experimenting with image sizes and tried the thumbnails at 320 x 240 pixels. They are big enough in their own right to see pretty good detail and the file sizes average around 30 KB. Clicking on the thumbnail doubles the dimensions to 640 x 480 and the file size is around 90 KB. On the pages with the larger pictures I have a link to the original full size pictures which are 2272 x 1704 pixels and probably average around 2 MB per picture. I'd be interested in thoughts (especially from dial-up users) regarding this general format for future pages. Regards, Larry (the other Evans) At 01:09 PM 7/13/2009, you wrote: > Helen, I'm thinking, make your "thumbnail" a lot bigger (at least >250 pixels wide) and put 2 links to it - 1 for "low resolution" (for the >"non-broadband" users) and 1 (high resolution for those of us lucky enough >to have broadband). I know it's a lot of extra work (that's why I have not >gone there yet) but you are, after all, our favourite "Webmistress" and we >all love you. >That's my bit for tonight !!!! > >Keep the revs up (or down) >Jerry Evans >Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. >Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Larry Evans MailTo:LFEVANS at pacbell.net http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/ From al.harris at rustic-engines.com Mon Jul 13 18:03:03 2009 From: al.harris at rustic-engines.com (Al Harris) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:03:03 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Ignition paper for Field Marshall In-Reply-To: <4A5B4DD2.4030804@telenet.net> References: <4A5ABD87.3010306@rustic-engines.com> <4A5B4DD2.4030804@telenet.net> Message-ID: <4A5BD947.8050100@rustic-engines.com> Thanks Steve, and those "off list". I know have to figure out which faction is correct. 2 ounces to a pint (56.68 gms to 470cc) - equivalent to (96.48gms to 800cc) or 200gms to 800cc I'm not splitting hairs here. One is twice the strength of the other. Does it matter? Cheers, Al Harris Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz al.harris at rustic-engines.com Steve W. wrote: > Al Harris wrote: > >> Attn everybody, >> >> an owner of a FM tractor is running low on ignition strips (touch paper) >> to start it. >> >> Does anybody (silly me) know the strength of saltpetre solution >> (potassium nitrate) to soak the blotting paper in, so that the right >> amount of crystals are left in the dried paper to give a good burn. >> >> TIA, >> >> Al Harris >> Winter Clarence Coast NSW Oz >> >> al.harris at rustic-engines.com >> >> >> > > I think the mix is > 200 grams to 800 CC of distilled water. > > From pml1 at bigpond.net.au Mon Jul 13 23:24:37 2009 From: pml1 at bigpond.net.au (Patrick) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:24:37 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Austral register July 2009 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A further update online for the register. I have added some more engines and engine pictures to the online version of the register at: http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/austreg/australreg0709web.htm Patrick M Livingstone Leichhardt NSW http://www.oldengine.org/members/pml/Index.html From cgandree at mchsi.com Tue Jul 14 04:21:39 2009 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:21:39 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <071420091121.15953.4A5C6A4300009FCD00003E51223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Hi Helen, Excellent job as always in your photo collection and webshot narrative. Always enjoy your display of pictures and especially the additional ones of who was all there. Kind of brings the whole world alot closer for those of us that are unable to attend. Thank you and keep up the good work! Curt Andree -------------- Original message from Jim French : -------------- > Hi All > > I realise I've been very slow in getting the webpages done for the > Nuenen show, but at least I've got pictures available for everyone to > enjoy before anyone who went on the EHOWT09 has done! > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/nuenen09/nuenen1.htm > > Dolly > > -- > Jim French > fbi at insulate.co.uk > http://www.insulate.co.uk > http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Jul 14 05:28:24 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:28:24 +0200 Subject: [SEL] For Elden DuRand Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi Guys, Apologies for using the list for this private message to Elden. Hi Elden, mail from me to you is bouncing from your server - seems like it may be blocked. Please contact your ISP and check. Do you have another email address that I could use? Please reply "off list" to the normal address you use - I'm getting your mail just fine. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Tue Jul 14 06:12:08 2009 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (pjp08 at steamengine.com.au) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:12:08 +1000 (EST) Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Message-ID: <50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf is me Paul From jlb94 at juno.com Tue Jul 14 07:21:40 2009 From: jlb94 at juno.com (jlb94) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:21:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Lister SL-3 Help Message-ID: <20090714.071725.21852.38629@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> Hi Bob, Been sitting' here waiting for some response to your problem. Haven't seen any. I'm not sure what kind of engine a Lister SL-3 is but, being on the SEL, I'm hoping it's a flywheel engine. My suggestion would be a lot of patience and a little common sense. I would probably try soaking the pistons with some sort of penetrant. Wether it be transmission fluid - kerosene - WD-40 - or a mixture you've made yourself. I would probably try "rocking" the flywheels however so slightly till you get a little movement. You might also try reinstalling the heads, making a Zirk Grease Fitting to fit the spark plug hole and pump grease into the cylinder. Again - A lot of patience and a little common sense. Joe "Pip" Betz said that. jlb94 at juno.com - - - www.oldengine.org/members/betz ,-._,-. http://community.webshots.com/user/pipbetz \/)"(\/ (_o_) Keep Pennsylvania beautiful - Ban large pumpkin colored highway signs. On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:07:54 -0700 Bob W7AVK writes: > Hi - Have been a list lunker for a couple years. Finally started a > project of refurbishing a Lister SL-3. But have run into a problem. > > The engine had been sitting outside for years and is frozen. When > the > heads were removed found water in two cylinders. Both cylinder > walls > are rusted and pitted with one being much worse than the other. > Seems > to be where the engine is frozen, but haven't been able to pull the > > pistons yet. That's the next job. > > > I'm open to suggestions as to how to proceed? What can be done to > > repair the cylinder? Can the cylinders be bored and over sized > pistons > fitted? Do such over size parts exist? And where are standard > parts > available, on the cheap, for the SL3? :-) > > > Thanks for reading. > > > Regards, > > > Bob R > Moses Lake, WA. USA > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > ____________________________________________________________ Visit the City of Brotherly Love! Click now for great vacation packages to Philadelphia! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTMwIDZtfecGt8J0n7eMflgE1GCiV07gZzKXBQFoxT907FadNKUf9e/ From enginepaul at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 07:46:42 2009 From: enginepaul at gmail.com (P. Johns) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:46:42 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <8d3c36fb0907140746y7ab9bf9bt2f1e11ffc329e201@mail.gmail.com> Thank you for the pictures. It will be a while before I can travel to shows, so these pictures (great pictures at that) are as close to being there as possible for me. Paul in California From jerrye at databak.co.za Tue Jul 14 10:00:58 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:00:58 +0200 Subject: [SEL] : Re: My bad-Rob/Helen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714183544.02a68e98@mail.atech.co.za> At 06:00 PM 14/07/2009, you wrote: >Message: 5 >Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:30:33 -0700 >From: Larry Evans >Subject: Re: [SEL] : Re: My bad-Rob/Helen >To: The SEL email discussion list >Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20090713155820.04464288 at pop.att.yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > >Hi........... > >In regards to Jerry's thoughts on web page picture size here is a small >page I put together about a year ago: > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/levans/thrall/index.htm > >I was kind of experimenting with image sizes and tried the thumbnails at >320 x 240 pixels. They are big enough in their own right to see pretty >good detail and the file sizes average around 30 KB. Clicking on the >thumbnail doubles the dimensions to 640 x 480 and the file size is around >90 KB. On the pages with the larger pictures I have a link to the original >full size pictures which are 2272 x 1704 pixels and probably average around >2 MB per picture. > >I'd be interested in thoughts (especially from dial-up users) regarding >this general format for future pages. > >Regards, >Larry (the other Evans) Hi Larry, I like it. It's a bit more work but well worth it. The thumbnails are big enough to see if you want to look at the pic - the 2nd size is nice and if you want to see real detail you can go to the third size and use up a bit of bandwidth. I think that's even acceptable to dialup users - it's their choice if they want to see the pic. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From kimmell at verizon.net Tue Jul 14 10:41:00 2009 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:41:00 -0500 Subject: [SEL] auction bargain In-Reply-To: <20090712142832.148E21D0CB8@mail04.wcoil.com> References: <3769846FCD564A5E9762276624F58FC0@peterlowe> <20090712142832.148E21D0CB8@mail04.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <0KMS00HER94P7750@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> At 09:28 AM 7/12/2009, you wrote: >An IHC LA LB brings nearly as much as a 1 hp R&V Go Figure. Mark No kidding... those things are everywhere, and are not interesting at all. Guess someone really wanted it. I wouldn't pay that much for an LA/LB unless it was totally restored. LOL -Tony From kimmell at verizon.net Tue Jul 14 10:52:10 2009 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:52:10 -0500 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscout s.org.au> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> Message-ID: <0KMS00FV49NBUP20@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> I have one too. Never thought the subject of Facebook would come up in this group. lol http://www.facebook.com/tony.kimmell -Tony At 08:12 AM 7/14/2009, you wrote: >Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... > >http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf > >is me > >Paul From fbi at insulate.co.uk Tue Jul 14 11:03:24 2009 From: fbi at insulate.co.uk (Jim French) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:03:24 +0100 Subject: [SEL] : Re: My bad-Rob/Helen In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714183544.02a68e98@mail.atech.co.za> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714183544.02a68e98@mail.atech.co.za> Message-ID: <4A5CC86C.6040701@insulate.co.uk> Thanks for all the advice - that system of Larry's does work well, but I'll have to do a test version to see how much extra time it takes. It's a great way to keep everyone happy. Dolly -- Jim French fbi at insulate.co.uk http://www.insulate.co.uk http://www.oldengine.org/members/dolly/index.htm From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Jul 14 16:10:46 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:10:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Kaintuck Plunder In-Reply-To: <001701ca03a7$852078c0$83674b47@mikecomp> References: <679FA2B88D464A6C99628E91930398C1@DBTOA000> <001701ca03a7$852078c0$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: <46938e4f7d80f03de6da613b765aba85.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hey Tommy, And don't forget Mike's dimples. They're usually most prominent when he has that BIG smile on his face as he stands there jawin' with you, one hand on your shoulder (to keep you from reaching for your carry piece) while his OTHER hand is softly plucking your wallet out of your pocket, slipping out the cash and credit cards, and carefully putting it back in your pocket. Yep, all one handed. He's that good. As a very young buck Mike used to practice unhooking a womans bra. One handed. >From outside her blouse. While talking to her. Yes, he's THAT good. Bless his heart. 8->>> See ya, Arnie On Mon, July 13, 2009 6:48 am, Mike Royster wrote: > Why it's as easy to tell as the French twins. Steve (evil) has that souless > eye stare hypnotizing look, and Mike (good) looks like a choir boy, some say > you can even see the halo over him and hear harp music while around him. From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Jul 14 16:17:35 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:17:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction Message-ID: Hey Dave, Whassup with Portland and the Thursday night dinner & Charity Auction at the Back Forty? It's not that far away, and I don't think I've seen anything on the lists about it. Also would someone send me Bob Matthews' email addy? I thought I had it, but... Thanks. See ya, Arnie From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Jul 14 16:37:09 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Nuenen 2009 In-Reply-To: <4A5B486D.6010903@insulate.co.uk> References: <4A58AD66.5060406@insulate.co.uk> <4A5B486D.6010903@insulate.co.uk> Message-ID: <2a7822abf55bd12e9088005c6876a6a9.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Rimshot! Badda-Bing! Budda-Boom! 8-)) On Mon, July 13, 2009 10:45 am, Jim French wrote: > PS Thinking about it, letting a woman loose with a camera is perhaps > better in some ways than, say, letting Arnie loose at an engine show. > At least you have a chance of seeing SOME of the pictures, eventually. From listerdiesel at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 13:30:14 2009 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:30:14 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Lister SL-3 Help In-Reply-To: <20090714.071725.21852.38629@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> References: <20090714.071725.21852.38629@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160907151330w4153d345o9a417113317561d8@mail.gmail.com> 2009/7/14 jlb94 : > Hi Bob, > Been sitting' here waiting for some response to your problem. > Haven't seen any. > I'm not sure what kind of engine a Lister SL-3 is but, being on the SEL, > I'm hoping it's a flywheel engine. Unfortunately not, or they would all be in collector's hands! The SL is one of the earliest air-cooled Lister engines, developed at the same time as the LD diesel. The LD was designed to have the same mounting centres and shaft height and diameter as the Lister D petrol engine. The SL is an LD with a bigger bore by memory, I haven't had time to dig the manual out. I think you have the option of a crankcase access plate so you could possibly get inside and undo the big ends and lift off the cylinder with piston and conrod. Spares are available, but by no means plentiful, especially in the USA. OK, while looking for something else, I have found the manual: 3-3/16" X 3-1/2" bore and stroke. 12.75hp @ 1800 rpm. 27.90 cu in per cylinder. 513 lbs(#) weight or 233 kg Manual is Book 353/865 that will be August 1965 publication. The book shows a crankcase inspection cover and the big ends are split level and horizontal. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jerrye at databak.co.za Wed Jul 15 15:47:28 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:47:28 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Coborn Engine - One for the Brits Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090716001811.01a58990@mail.cyberserv.co.za> Hi All, Lists are terribly quiet so I'll put this in. I found an air cooled Coborn engine about a year ago (British made - from memory similar type design to Wolseley, Wisconsin, Ronaldson & Tippet et. al.) In fact, it's the second one I found the - first is on my webpage here: (excuse the wrong spelling in this case) but this guy wanted too much moola for it. This one that I've found (and bought) will be collected for me by some friends in the next few weeks (no pictures yet). It's even attached to a water pump! ( I bought a Johnson Iron Horse in the same deal). Anyway, when I first did some research on it, the only mention I found was on a U.K. site - Peter Forbes, Roland Craven and Nick Holden were members (this from memory). The thread was started by a guy who had bought a bunch of literature which included a "Coborn" operators manual and he was wondering if it was worth keeping?? (This is all on backup "somewhere"!!!). (Googling for it tonight I found the thread but not on the original site). Although not a flywheel engine it's still quite unusual (rare?) and worth having. Do any of you guys (mentioned above) or anyone else remember who this was and do you know if he ever scanned the manual. I'd really like to get a copy or better still, buy the original from him - he did not seem to keen on keeping it! If I could get the original I would scan it and make it available on my website. Thanks, in advance, for any help. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From rotigel at me.com Wed Jul 15 18:25:02 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:25:02 -0400 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> Message-ID: <00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D@me.com> What's a facebook? Dave On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:12 AM, pjp08 at steamengine.com.au wrote: > Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... > > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf > > is me > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From dnicolson40 at hotmail.com Wed Jul 15 18:17:13 2009 From: dnicolson40 at hotmail.com (David Nicolson) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:17:13 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Allen bros engine?????? Message-ID: Hi All, i would like to know what hp ratings allen bros engines were made in as i have located an engine i think could be an allen but it is only about 2-3hp,it also has a pedestal fuel tank but the rest looks like an allen,it has no markings and only one flywheel,thank in advance Dave _________________________________________________________________ Looking for a place to rent, share or buy this winter? Find your next place with Ninemsn?property http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Edomain%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Fs%5Fcid%3DFDMedia%3ANineMSN%5FHotmail%5FTagline&_t=774152450&_r=Domain_tagline&_m=EXT From rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com Wed Jul 15 18:35:48 2009 From: rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com (Tod Engine Foundation) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:35:48 -0400 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za><50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D@me.com> Message-ID: <008701ca05b5$bf583950$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> I tried the facebook thing, and so far I have found utterly no use for it whatsoever. A couple SEL members are on Facebook but I don't think they wish to reveal themselves! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rotigel" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? > What's a facebook? > Dave > > On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:12 AM, pjp08 at steamengine.com.au wrote: > >> Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... >> >> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf >> >> is me >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 15 18:50:27 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D@me.com> Message-ID: <572817.14613.qm@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Buy em books Send um to skool what do they due??? Da eet da boocs. ? Dave,,, Follow the link he gave. --- On Wed, 7/15/09, David Rotigel wrote: From: David Rotigel Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 9:25 PM What's a facebook? ??? Dave On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:12 AM, pjp08 at steamengine.com.au wrote: > Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... > > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf > > is me > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Wed Jul 15 18:50:54 2009 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:50:54 EDT Subject: [SEL] on facebook? Message-ID: Rick the only thing I have ever heard about it the crooks pulling of you face and make fake IDS. Good Luck Kevin K In a message dated 7/15/2009 9:45:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rowlands1941 at roadrunner.com writes: I tried the facebook thing, and so far I have found utterly no use for it whatsoever. A couple SEL members are on Facebook but I don't think they wish to reveal themselves! Rick **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now. (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships/?ncid=emlweu slove00000001) From james.kangas at timken.com Wed Jul 15 18:59:07 2009 From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:59:07 -0400 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za><50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D@me.com> Message-ID: It's a social networking site. It's similar to Myspace but geared towards a more older audience. Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of David Rotigel Sent: Wed 7/15/2009 9:25 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? What's a facebook? Dave On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:12 AM, pjp08 at steamengine.com.au wrote: > Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... > > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf > > is me > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation From pwaugh at embarqmail.com Wed Jul 15 19:13:21 2009 From: pwaugh at embarqmail.com (Paul Waugh) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:13:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za><50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au><00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D@me.com> Message-ID: <8A4DBC8BD72044EC9FD148B055327449@PAULDESKTOP> Good, that leaves me out, cause I am only 69, and also have found no use for it ..maybe in the future when I get older. Paul - IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kangas, James G." To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? It's a social networking site. It's similar to Myspace but geared towards a more older audience. Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of David Rotigel Sent: Wed 7/15/2009 9:25 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? What's a facebook? Dave On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:12 AM, pjp08 at steamengine.com.au wrote: > Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... > > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf > > is me > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From rotigel at me.com Wed Jul 15 19:35:47 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:35:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <572817.14613.qm@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <572817.14613.qm@web37308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Alan, Thanks, but what's a "link?" Dave On Jul 15, 2009, at 9:50 PM, Alan wrote: > Buy em books > Send um to skool > what do they due??? > Da eet da boocs. > > Dave,,, Follow the link he gave. > > --- On Wed, 7/15/09, David Rotigel wrote: > > > From: David Rotigel > Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 9:25 PM > > > What's a facebook? > Dave > > On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:12 AM, pjp08 at steamengine.com.au wrote: > >> Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... >> >> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf >> >> is me >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Wed Jul 15 19:57:24 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:57:24 -0400 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D@me.com> Message-ID: <9E8F5470-232B-451E-BC8C-D00B31576357@me.com> Hi Jim, Is there, then, a geared and a gearless facebook? Dave PS, Is "social networking" something like talking to people? On Jul 15, 2009, at 9:59 PM, Kangas, James G. wrote: > It's a social networking site. It's similar to Myspace but geared > towards a more older audience. > Jim K. > > ________________________________ > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of David > Rotigel > Sent: Wed 7/15/2009 9:25 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? > > > > What's a facebook? > Dave > > On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:12 AM, pjp08 at steamengine.com.au wrote: > >> Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... >> >> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf >> >> is me >> >> Paul >> From rotigel at me.com Wed Jul 15 20:15:13 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:15:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Don't know what to say Arnie. I posted the announcement of the ATIS dinner and Charity Auction to BOTH lists about a month ago and have had THREE replies so far! Perhaps the 'event' has outlived it's usefulness and we should just forget about it. Dave PS, I had several people tell me at SIAM that they would be attending, but I should "know that" and, therefore, they didn't need respond to my request for an RSVP. That SURE as hell helps me get an idea as to how many we will have so that I can let the Back 40 know! On Jul 14, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Hey Dave, > > Whassup with Portland and the Thursday night dinner & Charity > Auction at the Back > Forty? It's not that far away, and I don't think I've seen anything > on the lists > about it. > > See ya, Arnie From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Jul 15 20:36:45 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:36:45 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Allen bros engine?????? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40456822-0411-4692-BB50-5DDE978D00FE@rustyiron.com> Pictures? I have two manuals on my web page that might help you. Rob Skinner Antique Stationary Engines La Habra, California rob at rustyiron.com www.rustyiron.com On Jul 15, 2009, at 6:17 PM, David Nicolson wrote: > > Hi All, i would like to know what hp ratings allen bros engines were > made in as i have located an engine i think could be an allen but it > is only about 2-3hp,it also has a pedestal fuel tank but the rest > looks like an allen,it has no markings and only one flywheel,thank > in advance Dave From frappi at wcoil.com Wed Jul 15 22:02:47 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:02:47 -0400 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <9E8F5470-232B-451E-BC8C-D00B31576357@me.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za> <50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D@me.com> <9E8F5470-232B-451E-BC8C-D00B31576357@me.com> Message-ID: <20090716050246.C5A7133C03D6@mail06.wcoil.com> Talk to people? Eww I'd rather text then get so personal, Disgusting. GRINNN Mark At 10:57 PM 7/15/2009, you wrote: >Hi Jim, Is there, then, a geared and a gearless facebook? > Dave >PS, Is "social networking" something like talking to people? > >On Jul 15, 2009, at 9:59 PM, Kangas, James G. wrote: > > > It's a social networking site. It's similar to Myspace but geared > > towards a more older audience. > > Jim K. > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of David > > Rotigel > > Sent: Wed 7/15/2009 9:25 PM > > To: The SEL email discussion list > > Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? > >> What's a facebook? > > Dave > >> On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:12 AM, pjp08 at steamengine.com.au wrote: > >>> Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... > >>> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf > >>> is me > >>> Paul > >> Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 USA 419.358.5206 From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jul 15 23:20:29 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:20:29 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090716062021.9A13B338172@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au> Best count us in Dave, 3 x spots as I can't see me cooking much that night! The lack of competition with the auction could mean we are in for some bargains! (thats if the numbers stay the same) Russ At 01:15 PM 16/07/2009, you wrote: >Don't know what to say Arnie. I posted the announcement of the ATIS >dinner and Charity Auction to BOTH lists about a month ago and have >had THREE replies so far! Perhaps the 'event' has outlived it's >usefulness and we should just forget about it. > Dave >PS, I had several people tell me at SIAM that they would be attending, >but I should "know that" and, therefore, they didn't need respond to >my request for an RSVP. That SURE as hell helps me get an idea >as to >how many we will have so that I can let the Back 40 know! > >On Jul 14, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > > > Hey Dave, > > > > Whassup with Portland and the Thursday night dinner & Charity > > Auction at the Back > > Forty? It's not that far away, and I don't think I've seen anything > > on the lists > > about it. > > > > See ya, Arnie > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Thu Jul 16 01:37:21 2009 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:37:21 +1000 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <008701ca05b5$bf583950$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za><50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au> <00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D@me.com> <008701ca05b5$bf583950$0201a8c0@PC126411058289> Message-ID: <4A5EE6C1.7050808@steamengine.com.au> I've found about 40 so far. Tod Engine Foundation wrote: > I tried the facebook thing, and so far I have found utterly no use for it > whatsoever. A couple SEL members are on Facebook but I don't think they > wish to reveal themselves! > > Rick > > From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Thu Jul 16 01:40:45 2009 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:40:45 +1000 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? - to Kevin K In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> Hi Kevin, this could happen from your SEL postings too - who says everyone here is an engine person. The trick is to give only the minimum information that someone could already know from say the whitepages phonebook (or its electronic equivalent). Anyone who posts personal or secret information publicly is simply a fool waiting to be conned. Bring on the etheopians with their surplus bank balances :). I probably have more information about myself on www.steamengine.com.au than I do on facebook. I agree that facebook is really a marketing machine - but that is easy - so they target ads at you. So what? You don't have to look at them. No-one makes you. I'm not an evangalist by any means and for a long time resisted joining for much the same reason you give - then I realised it was entirely up to me just how much I tell them. Regards Paul BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com wrote: > Rick the only thing I have ever heard about it the crooks pulling of you > face and make fake IDS. > Good Luck > Kevin K > > > From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Jul 16 06:28:10 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:28:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] on facebook? - to Kevin K - OT In-Reply-To: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> References: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: <9f5217b83084aba22b8bd06066149820.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> What cracks me up about FaceBook are the number of people (like my daughters) who have iPhones (or equivalent) and are 'FaceBook addicted', posting the minutia of their daily lives on a minute-by-minute basis (and responding to their friend's similiar posts). Add to that the games and quizzes, etc. that FaceBook offers and the 'heavy users' can spend their entire waking lives accomplishing nothing, but posting much. Some get so involved that they just unthinkingly disclose too much. "I'm going to be away for a month on holiday." "We just haven't decided on how to safely store Bobbie's gold coin collection, so it's STILL sitting on the kitchen table! That really makes me nervous cos it's worth MILLIONS." "Do you have our latest address; it's 69 Dumbo Lane, in LaLa Land." "Did I tell you how much trouble we had finding a kennel to board our two pit bulls for our holiday trip?" "I'm SOOO excited, we finally leave TOMORROW! A whole month out of the country!" You get the idea... See ya, Arnie On Thu, July 16, 2009 4:40 am, Paul Pavlinovich wrote: > Hi Kevin, this could happen from your SEL postings too - who says > everyone here is an engine person. The trick is to give only the minimum > information that someone could already know from say the whitepages > phonebook (or its electronic equivalent). > > Anyone who posts personal or secret information publicly is simply a > fool waiting to be conned. Bring on the etheopians with their surplus > bank balances :). From rotigel at me.com Thu Jul 16 07:57:28 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:57:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? - to Kevin K - OT In-Reply-To: <9f5217b83084aba22b8bd06066149820.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> <9f5217b83084aba22b8bd06066149820.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <429031C2-B4B4-4B23-AA23-168763471650@me.com> On Jul 16, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Arnie Fero wrote: > "I'm going to > be away for a month on holiday." "We just haven't decided on how to > safely store > Bobbie's gold coin collection, so it's STILL sitting on the kitchen > table! That > really makes me nervous cos it's worth MILLIONS." "Do you have our > latest address; > it's 69 Dumbo Lane, in LaLa Land." "Did I tell you how much trouble > we had finding > a kennel to board our two pit bulls for our holiday trip?" "I'm > SOOO excited, we > finally leave TOMORROW! A whole month out of the country!" > > You get the idea... > > See ya, Arnie Hi Arnie, I knew you were going to the beach sometime later this summer, but I thought you had someone coming in to feed the pit bulls. My offer to do so is still open! Dave From steve_royster at hotmail.com Thu Jul 16 07:55:13 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:55:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction In-Reply-To: <20090716062021.9A13B338172@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au> References: <20090716062021.9A13B338172@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: Hi Dave, I didn't see the info about the auction either, but we need 3 spots as well. Thanks Steve > > > > >how many we will have so that I can let the Back 40 know! > > > >On Jul 14, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > > > > > Hey Dave, > > > > > > Whassup with Portland and the Thursday night dinner & Charity > > > Auction at the Back > > > Forty? It's not that far away, and I don't think I've seen anything > > > on the lists > > > about it. > > > > > > See ya, Arnie > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that?s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Jul 16 09:04:08 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:04:08 -0500 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D@me.com> Message-ID: Dave: It's like, when you - you know, dude, like insult someone's Maytag fogger a bit too much and they smash you in the face with a phone book. You know - like chill, man. Wake up and smell the smoke! Cool. Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of David > Rotigel > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 08:25 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? > > > What's a facebook? > Dave From rbackus at ogdenpubs.com Thu Jul 16 10:09:15 2009 From: rbackus at ogdenpubs.com (Richard Backus) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:09:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 64, Issue 16 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Dave, count us for 2. Not sure yet if I'll be there, but Christian and Terri will be. Richard/GEM Message: 12 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:15:13 -0400 From: David Rotigel Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction To: The SEL email discussion list Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Don't know what to say Arnie. I posted the announcement of the ATIS dinner and Charity Auction to BOTH lists about a month ago and have had THREE replies so far! Perhaps the 'event' has outlived it's usefulness and we should just forget about it. Dave PS, I had several people tell me at SIAM that they would be attending, but I should "know that" and, therefore, they didn't need respond to my request for an RSVP. That SURE as hell helps me get an idea as to how many we will have so that I can let the Back 40 know! From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Jul 16 11:40:30 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:40:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <79dc824f63488f592e6861210100892f.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> FaceBook is like a Maytag? Or are you saying that a Maytag is like FaceBook? On Thu, July 16, 2009 12:04 pm, Elden DuRand wrote: > It's like, when you - you know, dude, like insult someone's Maytag fogger a > bit too much and they smash you in the face with a phone book. > You know - like chill, man. Wake up and smell the smoke! > Cool. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >> What's a facebook? >> Dave From james.kangas at timken.com Thu Jul 16 12:00:11 2009 From: james.kangas at timken.com (Kangas, James G.) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:00:11 -0400 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090714142653.01614110@mail.cyberserv.co.za><50773.218.214.134.238.1247577128.squirrel@www.emeraldscouts.org.au><00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D@me.com> <9E8F5470-232B-451E-BC8C-D00B31576357@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Dave, Yes there is a geared and gearless facebook,but to belong to the gearless you need to be Olds( bad pun I know). Yes, social networking is how the Net generation talk to each other. To them the concept of actually speaking to a person, especially face to face, is quite foreign or even disturbing Jim K. ________________________________ From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of David Rotigel Sent: Wed 7/15/2009 10:57 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? Hi Jim, Is there, then, a geared and a gearless facebook? Dave PS, Is "social networking" something like talking to people? On Jul 15, 2009, at 9:59 PM, Kangas, James G. wrote: > It's a social networking site. It's similar to Myspace but geared > towards a more older audience. > Jim K. > > ________________________________ > > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com on behalf of David > Rotigel > Sent: Wed 7/15/2009 9:25 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? > > > > What's a facebook? > Dave > > On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:12 AM, pjp08 at steamengine.com.au wrote: > >> Hi you lot... I've found some of you, but more must be hiding... >> >> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1027782880&ref=nf >> >> is me >> >> Paul >> _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel ----------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company / The Timken Corporation From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Jul 16 12:32:24 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:32:24 +0200 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 64, Issue 16 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090716212722.0224b380@mail.atech.co.za> At 06:00 PM 16/07/2009, you wrote: >Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? >To: The SEL email discussion list >Message-ID: <00EEB7D8-B046-49D9-ADD7-95026A4B483D at me.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > >What's a facebook? > Dave Hi Dave, It's the latest (??) thing on "Social Networking" - Don't ask what that is as I do not have a clue but if you do subscribe to it you can rest assured that your Spam email box will fill up a lot faster. Jerry From jerrye at databak.co.za Thu Jul 16 12:44:38 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:44:38 +0200 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090716213911.02278b00@mail.atech.co.za> >From: "Elden DuRand" >Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Dave: >It's like, when you - you know, dude, like insult someone's Maytag fogger >a bit too much and they smash you in the face with a phone book. You know >- like chill, man. Wake up and smell the smoke! >Cool. >Take care - Elden Elden, Excellent! Like Wow, you said it like it are! Loved your reply dude. Not a place for real people or engine men. Us Old Farts should just stick to SEL and "Oldengine". Jerry From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Jul 16 13:08:54 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction In-Reply-To: References: <20090716062021.9A13B338172@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <80255443cc8b9d9add07576f645b5b6d.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hey Steve, Does this mean that Dawn is FINALLY gonna come to Portland? 8-)) Or has Mike talked Ann into coming? Or is he bringing Sonja instead? Enguiring minds and all that.... See ya, Arnie On Thu, July 16, 2009 10:55 am, Steve Royster wrote: > > Hi Dave, I didn't see the info about the auction either, but we need 3 spots as > well. Thanks Steve From steve_royster at hotmail.com Thu Jul 16 13:17:10 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:17:10 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction In-Reply-To: <80255443cc8b9d9add07576f645b5b6d.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <20090716062021.9A13B338172@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au> <80255443cc8b9d9add07576f645b5b6d.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Arnie, I think it will be a cold day in the hot place when Dawn or Ann come to Portland! The third seat will be Bill Bird, our traveling companion this time. Sonja who??? > Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:08:54 -0400 > From: fero_ah at city-net.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction > > Hey Steve, > > Does this mean that Dawn is FINALLY gonna come to Portland? 8-)) > Or has Mike talked Ann into coming? Or is he bringing Sonja instead? > > Enguiring minds and all that.... > > See ya, Arnie > > On Thu, July 16, 2009 10:55 am, Steve Royster wrote: > > > > Hi Dave, I didn't see the info about the auction either, but we need 3 spots as > > well. Thanks Steve > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009 From rotigel at me.com Thu Jul 16 13:39:33 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:39:33 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction In-Reply-To: <20090716062021.9A13B338172@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au> References: <20090716062021.9A13B338172@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <3DC28537-AF51-4A99-A436-B7CF1B62877C@me.com> Got you down for 3 Russ. Thanks! Dave On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:20 AM, Russell Gilbert wrote: > Best count us in Dave, 3 x spots as I can't see me cooking much > that night! > The lack of competition with the auction could mean we are in for > some bargains! (thats if the numbers stay the same) > Russ > > > At 01:15 PM 16/07/2009, you wrote: >> Don't know what to say Arnie. I posted the announcement of the ATIS >> dinner and Charity Auction to BOTH lists about a month ago and have >> had THREE replies so far! Perhaps the 'event' has outlived it's >> usefulness and we should just forget about it. >> Dave >> PS, I had several people tell me at SIAM that they would be >> attending, >> but I should "know that" and, therefore, they didn't need respond to >> my request for an RSVP. That SURE as hell helps me get an idea >> as to >> how many we will have so that I can let the Back 40 know! >> >> On Jul 14, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: >> >>> Hey Dave, >>> >>> Whassup with Portland and the Thursday night dinner & Charity >>> Auction at the Back >>> Forty? It's not that far away, and I don't think I've seen anything >>> on the lists >>> about it. >>> >>> See ya, Arnie >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Thu Jul 16 13:42:38 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:42:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] SEL Digest, Vol 64, Issue 16 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <68CE393E-F05D-49C1-A69F-9008AAA7C0DD@me.com> Hi Richard, Got you down. We are now up to 16 who will be attending! Dave On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:09 PM, Richard Backus wrote: > Hey Dave, count us for 2. Not sure yet if I'll be there, but Christian > and Terri will be. > > Richard/GEM > > Message: 12 > Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:15:13 -0400 > From: David Rotigel > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction > To: The SEL email discussion list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Don't know what to say Arnie. I posted the announcement of the ATIS > dinner and Charity Auction to BOTH lists about a month ago and have > had THREE replies so far! Perhaps the 'event' has outlived it's > usefulness and we should just forget about it. > Dave > PS, I had several people tell me at SIAM that they would be attending, > but I should "know that" and, therefore, they didn't need respond to > my request for an RSVP. That SURE as hell helps me get an idea as > to > how many we will have so that I can let the Back 40 know! From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Jul 16 13:52:09 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:52:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction In-Reply-To: References: <20090716062021.9A13B338172@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au> <80255443cc8b9d9add07576f645b5b6d.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <363ba970e58f1ca479b49062787c8bc2.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> heh-heh-heh Wasn't that Mike's line (Sonja who???) when Ann heard about his new dive buddy. 8->>> See ya, Arnie PS - Good news that Bill is coming along. Are ya gonna put one of his engines on the trailer? On Thu, July 16, 2009 4:17 pm, Steve Royster wrote: > > Arnie, I think it will be a cold day in the hot place when Dawn or Ann come to > Portland! The third seat will be Bill Bird, our traveling companion this time. > Sonja who??? From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Jul 16 14:36:25 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:36:25 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction References: <20090716062021.9A13B338172@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <004901ca065d$78a847e0$83674b47@mikecomp> I already replied for us Steve. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction Hi Dave, I didn't see the info about the auction either, but we need 3 spots as well. Thanks Steve > > > > >how many we will have so that I can let the Back 40 know! > > > >On Jul 14, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > > > > > Hey Dave, > > > > > > Whassup with Portland and the Thursday night dinner & Charity > > > Auction at the Back > > > Forty? It's not that far away, and I don't think I've seen anything > > > on the lists > > > about it. > > > > > > See ya, Arnie > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that?s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Jul 16 14:41:17 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:41:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction References: <20090716062021.9A13B338172@gex-cn03.ncable.net.au> <80255443cc8b9d9add07576f645b5b6d.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <00a001ca065e$26d55c90$83674b47@mikecomp> Of course Dawn, Ann and Sonja won't be at Portland, Missy will be there!!!!!! MR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Fero" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Thursday Night Dinner & Auction > Hey Steve, > > Does this mean that Dawn is FINALLY gonna come to Portland? 8-)) > Or has Mike talked Ann into coming? Or is he bringing Sonja instead? > > Enguiring minds and all that.... > > See ya, Arnie > > On Thu, July 16, 2009 10:55 am, Steve Royster wrote: >> >> Hi Dave, I didn't see the info about the auction either, but we need 3 >> spots as >> well. Thanks Steve > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Jul 16 16:15:18 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:15:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090716213911.02278b00@mail.atech.co.za> Message-ID: Jerry: Righteous, dude! Ehhhh....... OLD dude! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Jerry Evans > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 02:45 PM > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? > > > > >From: "Elden DuRand" > >Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? > >To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > >Dave: > >It's like, when you - you know, dude, like > insult someone's Maytag fogger > >a bit too much and they smash you in the face > with a phone book. You know > >- like chill, man. Wake up and smell the smoke! > >Cool. > >Take care - Elden > > Elden, > Excellent! Like Wow, you said it like > it are! Loved your reply dude. > Not a place for real people or engine men. > Us Old Farts should just stick to SEL > and "Oldengine". > Jerry From edurand at mchsi.com Thu Jul 16 16:19:54 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:19:54 -0500 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <79dc824f63488f592e6861210100892f.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Arnie: Hey, man - like whatever! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of Arnie Fero > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 01:41 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] on facebook? > > > FaceBook is like a Maytag? Or are you saying that > a Maytag is like FaceBook? > > On Thu, July 16, 2009 12:04 pm, Elden DuRand wrote: > > It's like, when you - you know, dude, like > insult someone's Maytag fogger a > > bit too much and they smash you in the face > with a phone book. > > You know - like chill, man. Wake up and smell the smoke! > > Cool. From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Thu Jul 16 17:17:14 2009 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:17:14 EDT Subject: [SEL] on facebook? - to Kevin K - OT Message-ID: Arnie have a great trip. KK In a message dated 7/16/2009 9:26:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, fero_ah at city-net.com writes: What cracks me up about FaceBook are the number of people (like my daughters) who have iPhones (or equivalent) and are 'FaceBook addicted', posting the minutia of their daily lives on a minute-by-minute basis (and responding to their friend's similiar posts). Add to that the games and quizzes, etc. that FaceBook offers and the 'heavy users' can spend their entire waking lives accomplishing nothing, but posting much. Some get so involved that they just unthinkingly disclose too much. "I'm going to be away for a month on holiday." "We just haven't decided on how to safely store Bobbie's gold coin collection, so it's STILL sitting on the kitchen table! That really makes me nervous cos it's worth MILLIONS." "Do you have our latest address; it's 69 Dumbo Lane, in LaLa Land." "Did I tell you how much trouble we had finding a kennel to board our two pit bulls for our holiday trip?" "I'm SOOO excited, we finally leave TOMORROW! A whole month out of the country!" You get the idea... See ya, Arnie **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now. (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships/?ncid=emlweu slove00000001) From toadhill at aeroinc.net Fri Jul 17 14:13:42 2009 From: toadhill at aeroinc.net (Joe&Jewel Maurer) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:13:42 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Charity Auction Message-ID: <5676F95A23194726AA7B6B23204F247E@joe5599c86d812> Don't know what to say Arnie. I posted the announcement of the ATIS dinner and Charity Auction to BOTH lists about a month ago and have had THREE replies so far! Perhaps the 'event' has outlived it's usefulness and we should just forget about it. Dave PS, I had several people tell me at SIAM that they would be attending, but I should "know that" and, therefore, they didn't need respond to my request for an RSVP. That SURE as hell helps me get an idea as to how many we will have so that I can let the Back 40 know! Dave, Sorry about the delay. Please put me down for two. Joe Maurer From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Fri Jul 17 17:15:34 2009 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:15:34 +1000 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? - to Kevin K - OT In-Reply-To: <9f5217b83084aba22b8bd06066149820.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> <9f5217b83084aba22b8bd06066149820.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <4A611426.4060705@steamengine.com.au> Absolutely share your amazement Arnie, but it isn't new to facebook. It used to happen on the old dial up bulliten boards and internal chat systems. A friend of mine built the first interactive chat system that I ever knew about long before the web existed on a CDC Cyber 970 mainframe. This thing kept about 40% of the population of my and interconnected universities amused and it was no different then. People like to talk and they like to talk about themselves. Some people pause to listen on occasion - that is conversation. Those that never pause to listen are those most vulnerable to facebook. Is it different on this list? It is a public forum - there are hundreds of subscribers - do you know everyone here? No? Neither do I. There are people who read but never post. They might be innocents or they might have other motives. How many times have you told what you consider to be your collection or friends that you're going to Portland, or Baraboo, or even the big overseas trips. How many times have I done it? Plenty is the answer because we like to think that we're safe here. Regards Paul Arnie Fero wrote: > What cracks me up about FaceBook are the number of people (like my daughters) who > have iPhones (or equivalent) and are 'FaceBook addicted', posting the minutia of > their daily lives on a minute-by-minute basis (and responding to their friend's > similiar posts). Add to that the games and quizzes, etc. that FaceBook offers and > the 'heavy users' can spend their entire waking lives accomplishing nothing, but > posting much. > > Some get so involved that they just unthinkingly disclose too much. "I'm going to > be away for a month on holiday." "We just haven't decided on how to safely store > Bobbie's gold coin collection, so it's STILL sitting on the kitchen table! That > really makes me nervous cos it's worth MILLIONS." "Do you have our latest address; > it's 69 Dumbo Lane, in LaLa Land." "Did I tell you how much trouble we had finding > a kennel to board our two pit bulls for our holiday trip?" "I'm SOOO excited, we > finally leave TOMORROW! A whole month out of the country!" > > You get the idea... > > See ya, Arnie > > On Thu, July 16, 2009 4:40 am, Paul Pavlinovich wrote: > >> Hi Kevin, this could happen from your SEL postings too - who says >> everyone here is an engine person. The trick is to give only the minimum >> information that someone could already know from say the whitepages >> phonebook (or its electronic equivalent). >> >> Anyone who posts personal or secret information publicly is simply a >> fool waiting to be conned. Bring on the etheopians with their surplus >> bank balances :). >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > From kimmell at verizon.net Fri Jul 17 17:43:15 2009 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:43:15 -0500 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> References: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: <0KMY004F4CO2V610@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> You can change the account settings so that your profile can only be viewed by your friends. Even so, I still don't put a whole lot of info on it. Just a few pics of the family and my various projects. The only reason I joined is because it's a nice convenient way to share pictures and stay in touch with your friends and family. Facebook has put me back in touch with at least a dozen of my old friends from school that I hadn't talked to in years. Of course, a lot of the older people won't take to it like the younger generation will. But then again, I remember back when the SEL was a new-fangled contraption to a lot of people. Nowadays it would be considered an archaic technology by most. A lot changes in only 10-15 years... -Tony At 03:40 AM 7/16/2009, you wrote: >Hi Kevin, this could happen from your SEL postings too - who says >everyone here is an engine person. The trick is to give only the minimum >information that someone could already know from say the whitepages >phonebook (or its electronic equivalent). > >Anyone who posts personal or secret information publicly is simply a >fool waiting to be conned. Bring on the etheopians with their surplus >bank balances :). > >I probably have more information about myself on www.steamengine.com.au >than I do on facebook. > >I agree that facebook is really a marketing machine - but that is easy - >so they target ads at you. So what? You don't have to look at them. >No-one makes you. > >I'm not an evangalist by any means and for a long time resisted joining >for much the same reason you give - then I realised it was entirely up >to me just how much I tell them. > >Regards >Paul From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Jul 17 18:06:34 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:06:34 -0700 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <0KMY004F4CO2V610@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> References: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> <0KMY004F4CO2V610@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <129BA5E2-74A6-4E79-B24F-B4E09305478C@rustyiron.com> On Jul 17, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Tony & Jackie wrote: > > Of course, a lot of the older people won't take to it Hi, Tony. They'll catch on as soon as they realize that Facebook's directed marketing will offer them discounts on plaid shorts, free samples of Metamucil and extended hours for the Early Bird Special at Denny's. [8-D From kimmell at verizon.net Fri Jul 17 18:30:18 2009 From: kimmell at verizon.net (Tony & Jackie) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:30:18 -0500 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <129BA5E2-74A6-4E79-B24F-B4E09305478C@rustyiron.com> References: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> <0KMY004F4CO2V610@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> <129BA5E2-74A6-4E79-B24F-B4E09305478C@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <0KMY00ER4EUG1610@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> Dude... 25% off select Medline incontinence shorts and Sunmaid Prunes! Score! At 08:06 PM 7/17/2009, you wrote: >Hi, Tony. They'll catch on as soon as they realize that Facebook's >directed marketing will offer them discounts on plaid shorts, free >samples of Metamucil and extended hours for the Early Bird Special at >Denny's. From enginepaul at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 22:10:52 2009 From: enginepaul at gmail.com (P. Johns) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:10:52 -0700 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: <129BA5E2-74A6-4E79-B24F-B4E09305478C@rustyiron.com> References: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> <0KMY004F4CO2V610@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> <129BA5E2-74A6-4E79-B24F-B4E09305478C@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <8d3c36fb0907172210v4d494fe7ka09084b651a65c3e@mail.gmail.com> Rob: That's just rude. True. But still rude. > " Hi, Tony. They'll catch on as soon as they realize that Facebook's > directed marketing will offer them discounts on plaid shorts, free > samples of Metamucil and extended hours for the Early Bird Special at > Denny's. " > > I used facebook once to get a picture of a tenant that I was evicting to give to the process server; so it was useful to me. Paul in California From rotigel at me.com Sat Jul 18 16:38:55 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:38:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Charity Auction In-Reply-To: <5676F95A23194726AA7B6B23204F247E@joe5599c86d812> References: <5676F95A23194726AA7B6B23204F247E@joe5599c86d812> Message-ID: <848CA645-4548-4196-AAE3-E06A31451EA9@me.com> > Sorry about the delay. Please put me down for two. > > Joe Maurer Got you down for two Joe! Dave From sluggo54 at hotmail.com Sat Jul 18 22:10:51 2009 From: sluggo54 at hotmail.com (Bruce Younger) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:10:51 -0500 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? Message-ID: "Hi, Tony. They'll catch on as soon as they realize that Facebook's directed marketing will offer them discounts on plaid shorts, free samples of Metamucil and extended hours for the Early Bird Special at Denny's." Rob will one day realize that his choices are down to aging or not, and it may not be so funny. Bruce Younger 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 Madison, SD sluggo54 at hotmail.com "There is no hunting like the hunting of a man and those that have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." E. Hemingway _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Store, access, and share your photos. See how. http://windowslive.com/Online/SkyDrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_SD_photos_072009 From rob at rustyiron.com Sat Jul 18 22:43:52 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:43:52 -0700 Subject: [SEL] on facebook? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7DD0397D-37C9-4E60-984F-9DE8DDA181BA@rustyiron.com> On Jul 18, 2009, at 10:10 PM, Bruce Younger wrote: > > Rob will one day realize that his choices are down to aging or not, > and it may not be so funny. > > Bruce Younger > > 05G HHC 313 RR Bn 3/67-4/68 If the day comes when I can no longer laugh, I hope that is the day I cease aging. To the curmudgeons who are quite vocal in their disdain for anything that has been invented since 1955, you amuse me a little. But more so, I'm sad for you... but not too sad, because that would bring me down. And Bruce, I apologize for my insensitive remark about plaid shorts. It seems that Target, REI, and Walmart all offer extensive collections of Plaid Shorts modeled by ripped young studs. So perhaps it is me who is tragically unhip. You can hold your head high, as you walk down he street in your fancy plaid shorts, white socks and sandals. Me? I'll continue to shuffle around in my raggedy Earth tones. Party on, dude. Rob From russell at ncable.com.au Sun Jul 19 16:00:38 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:00:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] My Campbell on youtube In-Reply-To: <848CA645-4548-4196-AAE3-E06A31451EA9@me.com> References: <5676F95A23194726AA7B6B23204F247E@joe5599c86d812> <848CA645-4548-4196-AAE3-E06A31451EA9@me.com> Message-ID: <20090719230038.B7F1E298051@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> For them who may interested my Campbell is now on youtube thanx to James Payne. I had a visit from a couple on engine nuts yesturday who are better at the digital age than myself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJNozFRa50c We had a good time for a few hours starting up many engines. A good way to spend a Sunday afternoon. regards Russell From fero_ah at city-net.com Sun Jul 19 18:39:58 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:39:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] on facebook? - to Kevin K - OT In-Reply-To: <4A611426.4060705@steamengine.com.au> References: <4A5EE78D.5040800@steamengine.com.au> <9f5217b83084aba22b8bd06066149820.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <4A611426.4060705@steamengine.com.au> Message-ID: Not to worry Paul. This is America not Oz. The heavily armed guard is still at home with instructions to shoot to kill and to keep firing until the weapons stop making noise. 8-)) See ya, Arnie On Fri, July 17, 2009 8:15 pm, Paul Pavlinovich wrote: > Is it different on this list? It is a public forum - there are hundreds > of subscribers - do you know everyone here? No? Neither do I. There are > people who read but never post. They might be innocents or they might > have other motives. How many times have you told what you consider to be > your collection or friends that you're going to Portland, or Baraboo, or > even the big overseas trips. How many times have I done it? Plenty is > the answer because we like to think that we're safe here. From rotigel at me.com Sun Jul 19 21:42:09 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:42:09 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road In-Reply-To: <20090701225008.93D3E3181D7@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> References: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <1D2AA3BA-7C0B-4127-ABFC-93655EFD95A3@me.com> <20090701114035.90F23FC18A@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> <41E77DF9-B783-4445-99A1-D9CE143B8332@rustyiron.com> <20090701225008.93D3E3181D7@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <18C3E1FB-2B38-4C93-9DAD-D3CF4382B111@me.com> On Jul 1, 2009, at 6:50 PM, Russell Gilbert wrote: > > Mate I was thinking I will have to find some place to go (like Nasty > Daves!) > and get dressed in some war paint, drive down the road in his red > truck and have some photo's of us having fun with a makeshift drive > by! Imagin the mileage I can get with some happy snaps back home then. > Russ All that has been arranged! We will have 3 (or 4 AR's and perhaps 2 SK as well here) Additionally there will be LOTS of hand guns for your use, Several .22's,. a .32, 3 or 4 .308's, several 9mm's and several . 44's, and a 1911 .45. Arnie is trying to hurry up his gunsmith so that he will have that FULLY AUTO by the time you are here. (There are also a few more in the gun safe that you might find to be fun,.) Earl says HIS FULLY AR) will be ready LONG BEFORE THAT! Currently we are practising on rabbits and the neighbors cats. Groundogs should be plentiful by the time you and your two daughters get here! Dave PS, Kerry will SHIT! PPS, ARNIE typed that first PS! PPPS, Did you know that the more time you drive over a cat, the FLATTER it gets? PPPPS, Did you know that's it's only KINKY THE FIRST TIME? PPPPPS, Damn, I LOVE to kill things! From plowe at exemail.com.au Mon Jul 20 05:51:12 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:51:12 +1000 Subject: [SEL] =?iso-8859-1?q?Letters_=AD_Who_Built_This_Engine=3F?= Message-ID: <3F61E1676A2C486CB5A8A0DCAEE1E363@peterlowe> Hi All Anyone live near or know this guy. Vernon Hansmeier 3365 James Ave. Forest City, IA 50436 (641) 565-3244 If so can you contact him and tell him the engine in the link below is a Root & Vandervorrt and pass on my details to him please so he can contact me. http://www.farmcollector.com/letters/who-built-this-engine.aspx Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines From edurand at mchsi.com Mon Jul 20 08:35:16 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:35:16 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road In-Reply-To: <18C3E1FB-2B38-4C93-9DAD-D3CF4382B111@me.com> Message-ID: Dave: You are a SICK puppy! Can I come along? :-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of David > Rotigel > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 11:42 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 20 16:57:18 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <791563.99343.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> No, He is a terrible waster of good food. Them there cat should be on everyones table. 1,331,910,000 Chinese can't all be wrong. ? Alan in Michigan --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Elden DuRand wrote: From: Elden DuRand Subject: Re: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 11:35 AM Dave: You are a SICK puppy! Can I come along????:-) Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On >? Behalf Of David > Rotigel > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 11:42 PM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Jul 20 18:07:49 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:07:49 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Findlay Show July 30-31 Aug 1&2 In-Reply-To: <18C3E1FB-2B38-4C93-9DAD-D3CF4382B111@me.com> References: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <1D2AA3BA-7C0B-4127-ABFC-93655EFD95A3@me.com> <20090701114035.90F23FC18A@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> <41E77DF9-B783-4445-99A1-D9CE143B8332@rustyiron.com> <20090701225008.93D3E3181D7@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <18C3E1FB-2B38-4C93-9DAD-D3CF4382B111@me.com> Message-ID: <20090721010747.06CED76B831B@mail07.wcoil.com> Hi All, Findlay show is fast approaching, I am looking forward to seeing everyone there again. Mark Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 USA 419.358.5206 From swork at endacomm.com Mon Jul 20 22:59:00 2009 From: swork at endacomm.com (S. Work) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:59:00 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT the hi road or the low road References: <791563.99343.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3BB779C20E7F4B8290F123F2F0BC6F40@ecsserverwebs> < WANA BET ? > No, He is a terrible waster of good food. Them there cat should be on everyones table. 1,331,910,000 Chinese can't all be wrong. Alan in Michigan -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.20/2250 - Release Date: 07/20/09 06:16:00 From rdhaskell at juno.com Tue Jul 21 12:09:10 2009 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:09:10 -0700 Subject: [SEL] An engine for Arnie Message-ID: <20090721.120911.2572.1.rdhaskell@juno.com> http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php/product/24831/cat/all Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Get your dream car or truck. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLa8vEPHwHEBNmPbHQoPOCqhFdIsbfx4bwCczKqImxR3BvhYS36gw/ From rotigel at me.com Tue Jul 21 12:44:20 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:44:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] An engine for Arnie In-Reply-To: <20090721.120911.2572.1.rdhaskell@juno.com> References: <20090721.120911.2572.1.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <148EC691-3D11-4D22-B119-D903858F81D9@me.com> Hi Ron, How did you know that Arnie likes a "separate piece?" Dave On Jul 21, 2009, at 3:09 PM, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote: > http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php/product/24831/cat/all > > Ron Haskell From George_Best at adp.com Tue Jul 21 12:30:17 2009 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:30:17 -0500 Subject: [SEL] An engine for Arnie In-Reply-To: <20090721.120911.2572.1.rdhaskell@juno.com> References: <20090721.120911.2572.1.rdhaskell@juno.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40A6C619F43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Interesting that the photographer thought it was more important to show the stand the engine was sitting on rather than showing the top of the engine that is for sale. ;-) George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rdhaskell at juno.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:09 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] An engine for Arnie http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php/product/24831/cat/all Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ Get your dream car or truck. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLa8vEPHwHEBNmPbHQoPOCqhFdIsbfx4bwCczKqImxR3BvhYS36gw/ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From obise at moscow.com Tue Jul 21 12:59:46 2009 From: obise at moscow.com (Orrin B Iseminger) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:59:46 -0700 Subject: [SEL] An engine for Arnie In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40A6C619F43@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: <20090721195956.83272678BFC@secure.fsr.com> That sort of thing happens often. Have you ever noticed the propensity for people pictures to be cut off at the ankles, but the and top half of the photo is blue sky. Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects. So little time. -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:30 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] An engine for Arnie Interesting that the photographer thought it was more important to show the stand the engine was sitting on rather than showing the top of the engine that is for sale. ;-) George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rdhaskell at juno.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:09 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] An engine for Arnie http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php/product/24831/cat/all Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 21 16:04:32 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] An engine for Arnie In-Reply-To: <20090721195956.83272678BFC@secure.fsr.com> Message-ID: <29915.52904.qm@web37303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> No, if my sweet mother took the picture then the feet would be seen. The heads would all be cut off. ? Alan in Michigan --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Orrin B Iseminger wrote: From: Orrin B Iseminger Subject: Re: [SEL] An engine for Arnie To: "'The SEL email discussion list'" Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 3:59 PM That sort of thing happens often.? Have you ever noticed the propensity for people pictures to be cut off at the ankles, but the and top half of the photo is blue sky. ??? Orrin Iseminger Colton, Washington, USA http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/menu.htm So many projects.? So little time.??? -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Best, George Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:30 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] An engine for Arnie Interesting that the photographer thought it was more important to show the stand the engine was sitting on rather than showing the top of the engine that is for sale. ;-) George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of rdhaskell at juno.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:09 PM To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com Subject: [SEL] An engine for Arnie http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/showproduct.php/product/24831/cat/all Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell ____________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From tchristoff at earthlink.net Tue Jul 21 16:22:58 2009 From: tchristoff at earthlink.net (Tim Christoff) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:22:58 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [SEL] Charity Auction Message-ID: <10423458.1248218579134.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Put me down for one Dave. Tim Christoff -----Original Message----- >From: David Rotigel >Sent: Jul 18, 2009 4:38 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: Re: [SEL] Charity Auction > >> Sorry about the delay. Please put me down for two. >> >> Joe Maurer > >Got you down for two Joe! > Dave >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 21 17:48:10 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? Message-ID: <715912.25724.qm@web37303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Howdy, Has anyone been to this guy's show? http://www.edervillenc.com/ ? Alan in Michigan From mr at carolina.rr.com Tue Jul 21 18:08:56 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:08:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? References: <715912.25724.qm@web37303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002a01ca0a68$fc88a2d0$83674b47@mikecomp> Never heard of it. Might be interesting! Mike in NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:48 PM Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? Howdy, Has anyone been to this guy's show? http://www.edervillenc.com/ Alan in Michigan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bgrimley at bellsouth.net Tue Jul 21 18:14:48 2009 From: bgrimley at bellsouth.net (Bill Grimley) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? Message-ID: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Well it strikes me as unbelievable.? Never have seen so much stuff all in one place, but I never went to Oscar's.? Must be about 75-100 steam tractors, at least 500 gas tractors, most all of it running and under sheds. Lots of the bigger old big tractors. Plus many other related things.? Saw Bob Lefever there last November and think he was in shock also. Haven't seen any dates for an open house this year; might be first weekend in November. --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Alan wrote: From: Alan Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 8:48 PM Howdy, Has anyone been to this guy's show? http://www.edervillenc.com/ ? Alan in Michigan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Tue Jul 21 19:18:45 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:18:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Findlay Show July 30-31 Aug 1&2 In-Reply-To: <20090721010747.06CED76B831B@mail07.wcoil.com> References: <20090630223623.333DC304166@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <1D2AA3BA-7C0B-4127-ABFC-93655EFD95A3@me.com> <20090701114035.90F23FC18A@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> <41E77DF9-B783-4445-99A1-D9CE143B8332@rustyiron.com> <20090701225008.93D3E3181D7@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <18C3E1FB-2B38-4C93-9DAD-D3CF4382B111@me.com> <20090721010747.06CED76B831B@mail07.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <01da80fa8726bff6a45116c1cd3d9ea7.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Folks, If you've never been the the Findlay show, you're really missing a great show. It's one of my favorites. See ya, Arnie PS - Mark off the usual riverfront property in the Low Rent District for Dave & I. On Mon, July 20, 2009 9:07 pm, Mark Shulaw wrote: > Hi All, Findlay show is fast approaching, I am looking forward to > seeing everyone there again. Mark > > > > > > Mark & Christine Shulaw > Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 > USA > 419.358.5206 > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Tue Jul 21 19:16:38 2009 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:16:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? In-Reply-To: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <821B48D91EFD4F7283C8E06A02A95D9A@DBTOA000> Not sure when the show is this year but I chatted with Ken at Denton and he invited me down. Sadly I didn't write down the date. I've chatted with several folks who have been there and like Bill, they were very impressed. Ken has amassed a tremendous collection. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Bill Grimley Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:15 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] North Carolina Show? Well it strikes me as unbelievable.? Never have seen so much stuff all in one place, but I never went to Oscar's.? Must be about 75-100 steam tractors, at least 500 gas tractors, most all of it running and under sheds. Lots of the bigger old big tractors. Plus many other related things.? Saw Bob Lefever there last November and think he was in shock also. Haven't seen any dates for an open house this year; might be first weekend in November. From jthall at worldnet.att.net Tue Jul 21 19:30:28 2009 From: jthall at worldnet.att.net (John Hall) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:30:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? References: <715912.25724.qm@web37303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002501ca0a74$6181efb0$52d14c0c@D48VHZ61> We have been a couple times. It is unbelievable. It has got to be one of the largest collections in the world. Everything is kept in buildings--packed so tightly you would think it is a mall parking lot. Even if it is cold and raining you can still enjoy touring the buildings to see his collection. A lot of these tractors are one of only a few examples left. If you want to see tractors built after WWII, don't bother going--this is all about the prairie monsters and the first-generation small tractors. The last time I was there he still did not charge admission. And they ran his Stanley Steamer auto all day giving free rides. The car was so immaculately restored I was afraid to even touch it! Oh, and then there is the general store he built where you can buy penny candy. Do a search for Ken Eder on Smokestack and you should find some more info. and probably a link to some nice photo's. John Hall ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:48 PM Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? Howdy, Has anyone been to this guy's show? http://www.edervillenc.com/ Alan in Michigan _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From steve_royster at hotmail.com Tue Jul 21 19:31:56 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:31:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? In-Reply-To: <002a01ca0a68$fc88a2d0$83674b47@mikecomp> References: <715912.25724.qm@web37303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002a01ca0a68$fc88a2d0$83674b47@mikecomp> Message-ID: I have a friend that I see at Reidsville every year that goes. Says it has great stuff to see but it's all his stuff. You can't bring an engine and participate in the show , you just go and see his stuff. No camping, no bringing your engines, just go and look. Steve > From: mr at carolina.rr.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:08:56 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] North Carolina Show? > > Never heard of it. Might be interesting! > > Mike in NC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:48 PM > Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? > > > Howdy, > Has anyone been to this guy's show? > http://www.edervillenc.com/ > > Alan in Michigan > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. Click here. http://windowslive.com/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_MB_new_hotmail_072009 From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Jul 22 00:06:38 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:06:38 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Lucas N1 coil resistance wanted Message-ID: Hi all Does anyone know the typical coil resistance for a Lucas N1 Magneto please. Peter, Oz From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Jul 22 00:08:57 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:08:57 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Cooper/Stover KA spark plug type. Message-ID: <7FA4E8A1FC9B4B7FADF9DDA2A359953B@peterlowe> Hi all What is the correct spark plug number for a Cooper / Stover KA.? What is the thread size? Thanks Peter, Oz From dave.croft at ntlworld.com Wed Jul 22 07:20:42 2009 From: dave.croft at ntlworld.com (Dave Croft) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:20:42 +0100 Subject: [SEL] OT 150 years of steam in Luxemberg Message-ID: <005801ca0ad7$99861c70$42920556@intrepid> I received this from a Belgian news group I am in & thought it would be of interest here even tho it is OT. http://net-tv.lu/Movies/Eisebunn10052009.wmv Dave Croft Warrington http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/ http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv From rotigel at me.com Wed Jul 22 13:42:23 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:42:23 -0400 Subject: [SEL] An engine for Arnie In-Reply-To: <20090721195956.83272678BFC@secure.fsr.com> References: <20090721195956.83272678BFC@secure.fsr.com> Message-ID: That's one of the differences between a snapshot and a photograph! Dave On Jul 21, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Orrin B Iseminger wrote: > That sort of thing happens often. Have you ever noticed the > propensity for > people pictures to be cut off at the ankles, but the and top half of > the > photo is blue sky. > > Orrin Iseminger From rotigel at me.com Wed Jul 22 15:51:36 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:51:36 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Charity Auction In-Reply-To: <10423458.1248218579134.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <10423458.1248218579134.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <2B1B1A36-F34D-4EDD-B210-C629C0FB6C81@me.com> Got you down Tim! Dave PS, Anyone else? On Jul 21, 2009, at 7:22 PM, Tim Christoff wrote: > Put me down for one Dave. > > Tim Christoff > > -----Original Message----- >> From: David Rotigel >> Sent: Jul 18, 2009 4:38 PM >> To: The SEL email discussion list >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Charity Auction >> >>> Sorry about the delay. Please put me down for two. >>> >>> Joe Maurer >> >> Got you down for two Joe! >> Dave >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Jul 23 07:58:55 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:58:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? In-Reply-To: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> George / Harry / Steve / Mike / Larry, Why don't one of you post the link to that museum we saw on the EHOWT09? I think in terms of numbers and raw diversity its got to top this one. See ya, Arnie On Tue, July 21, 2009 9:14 pm, Bill Grimley wrote: > Well it strikes me as unbelievable.? Never have seen so much stuff all in one place, > but I never went to Oscar's.? Must be about 75-100 steam tractors, at least 500 gas > tractors, most all of it running and under sheds. Lots of the bigger old big > tractors. Plus many other related things.? Saw Bob Lefever there last November and > think he was in shock also. Haven't seen any dates for an open house this year; > might be first weekend in November. > > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Alan wrote: > > From: Alan > Has anyone been to this guy's show? > http://www.edervillenc.com/ > From George_Best at adp.com Thu Jul 23 09:35:09 2009 From: George_Best at adp.com (Best, George) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:35:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? In-Reply-To: <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40A6C7D7D08@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Arnie is probably referring to the Wim van Schayik collection at Langenboom, Holland. I don't have a website link for it at the moment. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:59 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] North Carolina Show? George / Harry / Steve / Mike / Larry, Why don't one of you post the link to that museum we saw on the EHOWT09? I think in terms of numbers and raw diversity its got to top this one. See ya, Arnie On Tue, July 21, 2009 9:14 pm, Bill Grimley wrote: > Well it strikes me as unbelievable.? Never have seen so much stuff all in one place, > but I never went to Oscar's.? Must be about 75-100 steam tractors, at least 500 gas > tractors, most all of it running and under sheds. Lots of the bigger old big > tractors. Plus many other related things.? Saw Bob Lefever there last November and > think he was in shock also. Haven't seen any dates for an open house this year; > might be first weekend in November. > > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Alan wrote: > > From: Alan > Has anyone been to this guy's show? > http://www.edervillenc.com/ > _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. From steve_royster at hotmail.com Thu Jul 23 14:36:17 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:36:17 -0400 Subject: [SEL] North Carolina Show? In-Reply-To: <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40A6C7D7D08@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <0CD5F60B52A040428A5B5EED0CB45DD40A6C7D7D08@DSMAIL2HE.ds.ad.adp.com> Message-ID: The new website link is www.tractortron.nl but it is only a brochure and doesn't cover much of the collections. I'll post pictures later so all can see them. Steve > From: George_Best at adp.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:35:09 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SEL] North Carolina Show? > > Arnie is probably referring to the Wim van Schayik collection at Langenboom, Holland. > > I don't have a website link for it at the moment. > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Arnie Fero > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:59 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] North Carolina Show? > > George / Harry / Steve / Mike / Larry, > > Why don't one of you post the link to that museum we saw on the EHOWT09? I think in > terms of numbers and raw diversity its got to top this one. > > See ya, Arnie > > On Tue, July 21, 2009 9:14 pm, Bill Grimley wrote: > > Well it strikes me as unbelievable. Never have seen so much stuff all in one place, > > but I never went to Oscar's. Must be about 75-100 steam tractors, at least 500 gas > > tractors, most all of it running and under sheds. Lots of the bigger old big > > tractors. Plus many other related things. Saw Bob Lefever there last November and > > think he was in shock also. Haven't seen any dates for an open house this year; > > might be first weekend in November. > > > > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Alan wrote: > > > > From: Alan > > Has anyone been to this guy's show? > > http://www.edervillenc.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 From frappi at wcoil.com Sun Jul 26 01:09:46 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:09:46 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Last British WW1 Vet Message-ID: <20090726080943.3B2C976B8310@mail07.wcoil.com> Condolences to our British friends and the loss of their last WW1 Vet. Harry Patch Mark & Christine Shulaw Bluffton, OH. 45817-9601 USA 419.358.5206 From russell at ncable.com.au Mon Jul 27 00:02:43 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:02:43 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net .com> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your show. Can't wait. Russell From randmingold at hotkey.net.au Mon Jul 27 00:14:44 2009 From: randmingold at hotkey.net.au (Reg Ingold) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:14:44 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> Russell, mate, you WILL have a great time there. I am sorry I wont be along. STOP WORRYING!!!! Reg & Marg Ingold. Newcastle, NSW, Australia. randmingold at hotkey.net.au http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell Gilbert Sent: Monday, 27 July 2009 5:03 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Portland Show Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your show. Can't wait. Russell _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From russell at ncable.com.au Mon Jul 27 00:25:30 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:25:30 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> Message-ID: <20090727072530.314A530425A@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> Not worrying Reg, just a little excited Russ At 05:14 PM 27/07/2009, you wrote: >Russell, mate, you WILL have a great time there. >I am sorry I wont be along. >STOP WORRYING!!!! > >Reg & Marg Ingold. >Newcastle, NSW, Australia. >randmingold at hotkey.net.au >http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > >-----Original Message----- >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell >Gilbert >Sent: Monday, 27 July 2009 5:03 PM >To: The SEL email discussion list >Subject: [SEL] Portland Show > >Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and >what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It >has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your >show. Can't wait. >Russell > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From marinesurveys at msn.com Mon Jul 27 02:34:12 2009 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:34:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <20090727072530.314A530425A@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> <20090727072530.314A530425A@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: Guys; would someone post the Portland show info, please. Thanks Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:25:30 +1000 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > From: russell at ncable.com.au > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show > > Not worrying Reg, just a little excited > Russ > At 05:14 PM 27/07/2009, you wrote: > >Russell, mate, you WILL have a great time there. > >I am sorry I wont be along. > >STOP WORRYING!!!! > > > >Reg & Marg Ingold. > >Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > >randmingold at hotkey.net.au > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell > >Gilbert > >Sent: Monday, 27 July 2009 5:03 PM > >To: The SEL email discussion list > >Subject: [SEL] Portland Show > > > >Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and > >what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It > >has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your > >show. Can't wait. > >Russell > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 27 03:15:53 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 03:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <215518.5136.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Is this what you were looking for Frank? http://www.tristategasengine-tractor.com/ ? Google is your friend. ? Alan in Michigan --- On Mon, 7/27/09, frank skinner wrote: From: frank skinner Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show To: "AA_OLD ENGINE" Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 5:34 AM Guys; would someone post the Portland show info, please. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Thanks ? ? ? ? Franklin S. Skinner ? ? Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 ? ? ???34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:25:30 +1000 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > From: russell at ncable.com.au > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show > > Not worrying Reg, just a little excited > Russ > At 05:14 PM 27/07/2009, you wrote: > >Russell, mate, you WILL have a great time there. > >I am sorry I wont be along. > >STOP WORRYING!!!! > > > >Reg & Marg Ingold. > >Newcastle, NSW, Australia. > >randmingold at hotkey.net.au > >http://www.oldengine.org/members/randmingold > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > >[mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell > >Gilbert > >Sent: Monday, 27 July 2009 5:03 PM > >To: The SEL email discussion list > >Subject: [SEL] Portland Show > > > >Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and > >what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It > >has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your > >show. Can't wait. > >Russell > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SEL mailing list > >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From pjp08 at steamengine.com.au Mon Jul 27 05:33:54 2009 From: pjp08 at steamengine.com.au (Paul Pavlinovich) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:33:54 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <4A6D9EB2.9030802@steamengine.com.au> Hi Russell, you'll have a hell of a time. The members of this list, and in particular the Portland people - especially my best friends - you know who you are - are some of the most generous and welcoming people you will meet on this earth. Whether you choose the live in a hotel or camp in the camp ground alternative you will be spending time with some great folks. Try and get to both and make sure you get to the dinner and auction. You'll probably buy something so start trying to figure out how to bring it home now ;). Oh yeah, when someone tries to tell you a bloomin onion is Australian just nod and let it slide - they won't be convinced! ps. Go over to the grand stand at the edge of the show - some really nice pies are baked by some lovely older ladies. Ask the people you meet at Portland if they remember the crazy Australian that just kept on eating cherry pies. Oh, yeah, you MUST take a driz-a-bone. It is simply mandatory. If you want some friendship gifts for special people you meet - take Australian bush hats. Regards Paul Russell Gilbert wrote: > Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and > what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It > has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your > show. Can't wait. > Russell > > From lcjudge at scrtc.com Mon Jul 27 05:46:43 2009 From: lcjudge at scrtc.com (Judge Tommy Turner) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:46:43 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <5FAF7ED98CFE436C882DF07A9529B66C@tommyd0x52gkco> Russell, I'll be there unless something happens between now and then. Its Ohio built engines to be the feature so I'll probably bring the Miami. Tommy Turner Magnolia, KY -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell Gilbert Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 3:03 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] Portland Show Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your show. Can't wait. Russell _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Jul 27 05:49:26 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:49:26 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X In-Reply-To: <2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> Message-ID: <20090727124924.B77433E4477@mail05.wcoil.com> "Early" Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X Heres a question for ya'll. Have any of you noticed or have you got any twin Maytag engines with early serial numbers, numbers in the 810000-810100 range that has an X after the number. Not to be confused with the post war engines with serial numbers starting at 100000X and extending to 205427X . Been casually tracking these 810000 engines for years. I know of three so far. Anyone else got one? Its thought that maybe there were 100 engines so marked. Does anyone have engines in the same serial number range 810000-810100 without the X ? Thanks for reading, Mark Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for this Country! Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com Mon Jul 27 06:25:45 2009 From: skipcleveland at cfl.rr.com (SKIP CLEVELAND) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:25:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au><2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> <20090727124924.B77433E4477@mail05.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <5D253DC3A42341F98192ADBDE97B9301@YOURDA6F5028CB> Mark. For the record mine is 145933X. Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Shulaw" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 8:49 AM Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X > "Early" Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X > > > > Heres a question for ya'll. Have any of you noticed or have you got > any twin Maytag engines with early serial numbers, numbers in the > 810000-810100 range that has an X after the number. Not to be > confused with the post war engines with serial numbers starting at > 100000X and extending to 205427X . Been casually tracking these > 810000 engines for years. I know of three so far. Anyone else got > one? Its thought that maybe there were 100 engines so marked. Does > anyone have engines in the same serial number range 810000-810100 > without the X ? Thanks for reading, Mark > > > > > > Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for > this Country! > > Mark Shulaw > 454 Co. Rd. 33 > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > USA > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From curt at rustyiron.com Mon Jul 27 07:05:12 2009 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:05:12 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <5FAF7ED98CFE436C882DF07A9529B66C@tommyd0x52gkco> References: <5FAF7ED98CFE436C882DF07A9529B66C@tommyd0x52gkco> Message-ID: <59362.168.215.206.73.1248703512.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Tommy, Could you take a stab at listing Ohio built engines? Thanks, Curt Holland P.S. Is there a comprehensive "manufactured in" state by state listing of engines that you know of? > Russell, > I'll be there unless something happens between now and then. > Its Ohio built engines to be the feature so I'll probably bring the > Miami. > > Tommy Turner > Magnolia, KY > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Russell > Gilbert > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 3:03 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: [SEL] Portland Show > > > Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and > what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It > has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your > show. Can't wait. > Russell > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Jul 27 08:00:35 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:00:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: G'day Russell, Mate, ya gots no worries. You'll NEVER see all the engines at Portland. You've only got a week. See ya, Arnie On Mon, July 27, 2009 3:02 am, Russell Gilbert wrote: > Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and > what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It > has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your > show. Can't wait. From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Jul 27 08:08:05 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with AXE In-Reply-To: <20090727124924.B77433E4477@mail05.wcoil.com> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> <20090727124924.B77433E4477@mail05.wcoil.com> Message-ID: <28a2cf7232d21820d94b05af4d39c948.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Mark, I think Dave may have one or two with an AXE. See ya, Arnie On Mon, July 27, 2009 8:49 am, Mark Shulaw wrote: > "Early" Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with AXE > > Heres a question for ya'll. Have any of you noticed or have you got > any twin Maytag engines with early serial numbers, numbers in the > 810000-810100 range that has an AXE after the number. Not to be > confused with the post war engines with serial numbers starting at > 100000X and extending to 205427X . Been casually tracking these > 810000 engines for years. I know of three so far. Anyone else got > one? Its thought that maybe there were 100 engines so marked. Does > anyone have engines in the same serial number range 810000-810100 > without the AXE ? Thanks for reading, Mark From jerrye at databak.co.za Mon Jul 27 09:29:45 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:29:45 +0200 Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090727182423.00bca410@mail.atech.co.za> >Message: 8 >Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:49:26 -0400 >From: Mark Shulaw >Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X > >"Early" Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X > >Heres a question for ya'll. Have any of you noticed or have you got >any twin Maytag engines with early serial numbers, numbers in the >810 000-810 100 range that has an X after the number. Not to be >confused with the post war engines with serial numbers starting at >100 000X and extending to 205 427X . Been casually tracking these >810 000 engines for years. I know of three so far. Anyone else got >one? Its thought that maybe there were 100 engines so marked. Does >anyone have engines in the same serial number range 810000-810100 >without the X ? Thanks for reading, Mark Nothing like that here Mark but, also for the record mine are 200607X and 117680X (This is the genset). Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From steve_royster at hotmail.com Mon Jul 27 10:05:52 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:05:52 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: Russell, You will be all right if you just remember one thing . When someone passes you a fruit jar of clear or charcoal colored liquid refreshment. Just take a sip and keep passing it around. Soon, you will be having the time of your life! Yeee Haaaa, I can't wait. Steve > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:02:43 +1000 > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > From: russell at ncable.com.au > Subject: [SEL] Portland Show > > Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and > what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It > has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your > show. Can't wait. > Russell > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 From frappi at wcoil.com Mon Jul 27 10:28:13 2009 From: frappi at wcoil.com (Mark Shulaw) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:28:13 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X In-Reply-To: <5D253DC3A42341F98192ADBDE97B9301@YOURDA6F5028CB> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> <20090727124924.B77433E4477@mail05.wcoil.com> <5D253DC3A42341F98192ADBDE97B9301@YOURDA6F5028CB> Message-ID: <20090727172809.57E9433C0571@mail06.wcoil.com> Yes thats post war production dating to Dec 1947 the ones we are looking for is 1937 vintage with serial numbers in the 810000 range with an X after the number. Its believed that there were only 100 such engines numberd with the X from 810000 to 810100 Thank You, Mark At 09:25 AM 7/27/2009, you wrote: >Mark. For the record mine is 145933X. >Skip >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Shulaw" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 8:49 AM >Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X > > > > "Early" Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X > > > > > > > > Heres a question for ya'll. Have any of you noticed or have you got > > any twin Maytag engines with early serial numbers, numbers in the > > 810000-810100 range that has an X after the number. Not to be > > confused with the post war engines with serial numbers starting at > > 100000X and extending to 205427X . Been casually tracking these > > 810000 engines for years. I know of three so far. Anyone else got > > one? Its thought that maybe there were 100 engines so marked. Does > > anyone have engines in the same serial number range 810000-810100 > > without the X ? Thanks for reading, Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for > > this Country! > > > > Mark Shulaw > > 454 Co. Rd. 33 > > Bluffton, OH. 45817 > > USA > > > > Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. > > Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. > > VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.32/2266 - Release Date: >07/27/09 05:58:00 Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for this Country! Mark Shulaw 454 Co. Rd. 33 Bluffton, OH. 45817 USA Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com From marinesurveys at msn.com Mon Jul 27 10:39:28 2009 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:39:28 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Kipps or simular lubricator In-Reply-To: <81E5F5ECA61A4B2FB15649266D6AAE8D@officedepotPC> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> <20090727072530.314A530425A@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> <81E5F5ECA61A4B2FB15649266D6AAE8D@officedepotPC> Message-ID: Hi Folks; I have a friend that hunting for at least an 8 point lubricator to use on a "Navy K " steam engine. Please let me know if anyone may have one or know where I might locate one. A Kipps or simular would be great. Thanks Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 From flywheelin at hotmail.com Mon Jul 27 10:58:56 2009 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:58:56 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: Just keep your skivvies on..... Don't have too many sips or it'll be lights out. You might wake up in the morning with yer head poundin and wonder where you are. But then again, you can always recover the next day....... http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/port07/portland96.html http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/port07/portland94.html Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ======================== > From: steve_royster at hotmail.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:05:52 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show > > > Russell, You will be all right if you just remember one thing . When someone passes you a fruit jar of clear or charcoal colored liquid refreshment. Just take a sip and keep passing it around. Soon, you will be having the time of your life! Yeee Haaaa, I can't wait. Steve > > > > > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:02:43 +1000 > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > From: russell at ncable.com.au > > Subject: [SEL] Portland Show > > > > Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and > > what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It > > has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your > > show. Can't wait. > > Russell > > _________________________________________________________________ Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 From rotigel at me.com Mon Jul 27 13:11:22 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:11:22 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X In-Reply-To: <5D253DC3A42341F98192ADBDE97B9301@YOURDA6F5028CB> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG> <20090727124924.B77433E4477@mail05.wcoil.com> <5D253DC3A42341F98192ADBDE97B9301@YOURDA6F5028CB> Message-ID: <48E4CDE9-81A5-45EE-A54B-C6BAF7DC2451@me.com> Mine is a SINGLE BLADE! Dave On Jul 27, 2009, at 9:25 AM, SKIP CLEVELAND wrote: > Mark. For the record mine is 145933X. > Skip > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Shulaw" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 8:49 AM > Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X > > >> "Early" Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X >> >> >> >> Heres a question for ya'll. Have any of you noticed or have you got >> any twin Maytag engines with early serial numbers, numbers in the >> 810000-810100 range that has an X after the number. Not to be >> confused with the post war engines with serial numbers starting at >> 100000X and extending to 205427X . Been casually tracking these >> 810000 engines for years. I know of three so far. Anyone else got >> one? Its thought that maybe there were 100 engines so marked. Does >> anyone have engines in the same serial number range 810000-810100 >> without the X ? Thanks for reading, Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for >> this Country! >> >> Mark Shulaw >> 454 Co. Rd. 33 >> Bluffton, OH. 45817 >> USA >> >> Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. >> Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. >> VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From kimmell at verizon.net Mon Jul 27 13:18:16 2009 From: kimmell at verizon.net (kimmell at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:18:16 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X In-Reply-To: <48E4CDE9-81A5-45EE-A54B-C6BAF7DC2451@me.com> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com><20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au><2EE05C67432E4F8B8E47D0AB7814399B@REG><20090727124924.B77433E4477@mail05.wcoil.com><5D253DC3A42341F98192ADBDE97B9301@YOURDA6F5028CB><48E4CDE9-81A5-45EE-A54B-C6BAF7DC2451@me.com> Message-ID: <1542940360-1248726007-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-735444245-@bxe1176.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Some folks calls it a Kaiser blade... I calls it a sling blade. Mmm-hmmm... Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect -----Original Message----- From: David Rotigel Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:11:22 To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X Mine is a SINGLE BLADE! Dave On Jul 27, 2009, at 9:25 AM, SKIP CLEVELAND wrote: > Mark. For the record mine is 145933X. > Skip > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Shulaw" > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 8:49 AM > Subject: [SEL] Early Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X > > >> "Early" Maytag Twin Cylinder engines with X >> >> >> >> Heres a question for ya'll. Have any of you noticed or have you got >> any twin Maytag engines with early serial numbers, numbers in the >> 810000-810100 range that has an X after the number. Not to be >> confused with the post war engines with serial numbers starting at >> 100000X and extending to 205427X . Been casually tracking these >> 810000 engines for years. I know of three so far. Anyone else got >> one? Its thought that maybe there were 100 engines so marked. Does >> anyone have engines in the same serial number range 810000-810100 >> without the X ? Thanks for reading, Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> Remember the founding Fathers and their Original hopes and dreams for >> this Country! >> >> Mark Shulaw >> 454 Co. Rd. 33 >> Bluffton, OH. 45817 >> USA >> >> Frappi at wcoil.com / 419.358.5206 Home / 419.516.2996 Ver. Cell. >> Hobby Collector and Dealer in Maytag Multi-Motor Engine parts. >> VISIT the Maytag Collectors Club at www.Maytagclub.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Mon Jul 27 15:59:39 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:59:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: Damn engine shows are GRUELING! It's a wonder that we even survive. 8-)) On Mon, July 27, 2009 1:58 pm, Luke Tonneberger wrote: > > Just keep your skivvies on..... Don't have too many sips or it'll be lights out. > You might wake up in the morning with yer head poundin and wonder where you are. > But then again, you can always recover the next day....... > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/port07/portland96.html > http://www.oldengine.org/members/luket/port07/portland94.html From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 28 08:31:37 2009 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show Message-ID: <671752.62469.qm@web112616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi, We are planning on going to the Marshalltown, IA show this Saturday. http://www.miapa.org It would be nice to meet up with any list members who are attending. We will have a barn fresh Associated hired man, an associated cream seperator and an 8 horse R & V. Maybe a few others, been spending the past few weeks dragging stuff out of the barn and seeing what will run. Last weekend we went to the Little Log House show in Hastings, MN. http://www.littleloghouseshow.com It is a very nice show, lots of stuff to see and do. The engine area is not huge, but the quality is good and there are things there for the kids and the missus to do. Later, Joe Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan From steve_royster at hotmail.com Tue Jul 28 13:12:18 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:12:18 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show In-Reply-To: <671752.62469.qm@web112616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <671752.62469.qm@web112616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Joe, We won't be able to attend that one but wondered if you were coming to Portland this year? We'd love to see you again. Steve Royster > Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:31:37 -0700 > From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show > > > Hi, > We are planning on going to the Marshalltown, IA show this Saturday. http://www.miapa.org It would be nice to meet up with any list members who are attending. We will have a barn fresh Associated hired man, an associated cream seperator and an 8 horse R & V. Maybe a few others, been spending the past few weeks dragging stuff out of the barn and seeing what will run. > Last weekend we went to the Little Log House show in Hastings, MN. http://www.littleloghouseshow.com It is a very nice show, lots of stuff to see and do. The engine area is not huge, but the quality is good and there are things there for the kids and the missus to do. > Later, > Joe > Joe Prindle > Baraboo, WI USA > "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?: Search, add, and share the web?s latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports From curt at rustyiron.com Tue Jul 28 13:16:26 2009 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:16:26 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: <59356.168.215.206.73.1248812186.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Steve, Be assured I am working on another batch of jars to bring to Portland. Curt > > Russell, You will be all right if you just remember one thing . When > someone passes you a fruit jar of clear or charcoal colored liquid > refreshment. Just take a sip and keep passing it around. Soon, you will be > having the time of your life! Yeee Haaaa, I can't wait. Steve > > > > > > > >> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:02:43 +1000 >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> From: russell at ncable.com.au >> Subject: [SEL] Portland Show >> >> Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and >> what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It >> has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your >> show. Can't wait. >> Russell >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it > now. > http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From steve_royster at hotmail.com Tue Jul 28 14:05:05 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:05:05 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <59356.168.215.206.73.1248812186.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <59356.168.215.206.73.1248812186.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Great Curt, Christian and Terri will be there from GEM and they would be real sad if you didn't! > Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:16:26 -0600 > From: curt at rustyiron.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show > > Steve, > Be assured I am working on another batch of jars to bring to Portland. > Curt > > > > > > Russell, You will be all right if you just remember one thing . When > > someone passes you a fruit jar of clear or charcoal colored liquid > > refreshment. Just take a sip and keep passing it around. Soon, you will be > > having the time of your life! Yeee Haaaa, I can't wait. Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:02:43 +1000 > >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> From: russell at ncable.com.au > >> Subject: [SEL] Portland Show > >> > >> Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and > >> what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It > >> has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your > >> show. Can't wait. > >> Russell > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it > > now. > > http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 From rotigel at me.com Tue Jul 28 16:41:04 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:41:04 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <59356.168.215.206.73.1248812186.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Anyone else interested in Terri's blog? Its at http://www.farmcollector.com/blogs/blog-landing.aspx Just click on Happy Trails! Dave On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:05 PM, Steve Royster wrote: > > Great Curt, Christian and Terri will be there from GEM and they > would be real sad if you didn't! > > > >> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:16:26 -0600 >> From: curt at rustyiron.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show >> >> Steve, >> Be assured I am working on another batch of jars to bring to >> Portland. >> Curt >> >> >>> >>> Russell, You will be all right if you just remember one thing . When >>> someone passes you a fruit jar of clear or charcoal colored liquid >>> refreshment. Just take a sip and keep passing it around. Soon, you >>> will be >>> having the time of your life! Yeee Haaaa, I can't wait. Steve >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:02:43 +1000 >>>> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> From: russell at ncable.com.au >>>> Subject: [SEL] Portland Show >>>> >>>> Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and >>>> what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to >>>> seeing. It >>>> has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your >>>> show. Can't wait. >>>> Russell >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SEL mailing list >>>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. >>> Try it >>> now. >>> http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SEL mailing list >>> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. > Try it now. > http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rotigel at me.com Tue Jul 28 17:36:56 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:36:56 -0400 Subject: [SEL] GEM Blog Message-ID: <6E467432-41DB-46DA-8992-796AD555AFD7@me.com> Has everyone else already discovered the GEM blog at http://www.farmcollector.com/blogs/blog-landing.aspx and simply neglected to tell me? Richard, Terri, Christian et.al. They are all there! Dave PS, Give it a look. As that chick in the ad says--"This could be FUN!" PS, Be sure to check out Christian's albums! From rotigel at me.com Tue Jul 28 21:05:21 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:05:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend Message-ID: Hi All, Last week Arnie and I visited an old friend that we had not seen in years, Last time we saw him it didn't look real good. I really wasn't sure he would survive. I knew he had a very dedicated care giver, but one person can only do so much! It was with some fear that we drove from Pittsburgh to Youngstown for our visit, and to say the least we were impressed by the job Tod's care giver had done. Since pictures are worth a thousand words see http://www.me.com/gallery/#home (and click onTod 2009 for what we found in Youngstown.) I think our friend will be up and running before too long! Dave PS, You are doing ONE HELL OF A JOB Rick! From kosh at ncweb.com Tue Jul 28 22:51:21 2009 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:51:21 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> Would like to see the pix, but the site wants me to sign up to receive spam. Dave Merchant At 12:05 AM 7/29/2009, David Rotigel wrote: >Hi All, > Last week Arnie and I visited an old friend that we had not seen in >years, Last time we saw him it didn't look real good. I really wasn't >sure he would survive. I knew he had a very dedicated care giver, but >one person can only do so much! It was with some fear that we drove >from Pittsburgh to Youngstown for our visit, and to say the least we >were impressed by the job Tod's care giver had done. Since pictures >are worth a thousand words see http://www.me.com/gallery/#home (and >click onTod 2009 for what we found in Youngstown.) I think our friend >will be up and running before too long! > Dave >PS, You are doing ONE HELL OF A JOB Rick! >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From listerdiesel at gmail.com Tue Jul 28 22:59:45 2009 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:59:45 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> 2009/7/29 Dave Merchant : > Would like to see the pix, but the site wants me to sign up to receive spam. > > Dave Merchant Same here, requires sign-in/registration to view the pictures. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From rotigel at me.com Wed Jul 29 06:13:29 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:13:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> What happens if you go directly to: http://www.me.com/gallery/#100034 Dave On Jul 29, 2009, at 1:59 AM, Listerdiesel wrote: > 2009/7/29 Dave Merchant : >> Would like to see the pix, but the site wants me to sign up to >> receive spam. >> >> Dave Merchant > > Same here, requires sign-in/registration to view the pictures. > > Peter From rolfb at accima.com Wed Jul 29 06:10:23 2009 From: rolfb at accima.com (Bob W7AVK) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:10:23 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> Message-ID: <4A704A3F.4050508@accima.com> David - Requires login / Password at below. Must sign up. Get enough spam, don't want more. Thank you NO. Regards, Bob R. David Rotigel wrote: > What happens if you go directly to: http://www.me.com/gallery/#100034 > Dave > > On Jul 29, 2009, at 1:59 AM, Listerdiesel wrote: > > >> 2009/7/29 Dave Merchant : >> >>> Would like to see the pix, but the site wants me to sign up to >>> receive spam. >>> >>> Dave Merchant >>> >> Same here, requires sign-in/registration to view the pictures. >> >> Peter >> > From marinesurveys at msn.com Wed Jul 29 06:10:20 2009 From: marinesurveys at msn.com (frank skinner) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:10:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> Message-ID: it sends you to https://auth.apple.com/authenticate?service=DockStatus&realm=primary-me&returnURL=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5tZS5jb20vd28vV2ViT2JqZWN0cy9Eb2NrU3RhdHVzLndvYS93YS90cmFtcG9saW5l&destinationUrl=/gallery&destinationAnchor=100034 Franklin S. Skinner Marine Surveyor & Consultant 3428 Talon Court Wilmington NC 28409 34'10.9 North 74'52.4 West PH 910-791-8870 Cell 910-612-7470 > From: rotigel at me.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:13:29 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend > > What happens if you go directly to: http://www.me.com/gallery/#100034 > Dave > > On Jul 29, 2009, at 1:59 AM, Listerdiesel wrote: > > > 2009/7/29 Dave Merchant : > >> Would like to see the pix, but the site wants me to sign up to > >> receive spam. > >> > >> Dave Merchant > > > > Same here, requires sign-in/registration to view the pictures. > > > > Peter > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From curt at rustyiron.com Wed Jul 29 06:21:00 2009 From: curt at rustyiron.com (curt at rustyiron.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:21:00 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: References: <184576.18205.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <10ca7a55959d4162bdc35699ea43f5c3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <20090727070243.4AC0F298012@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> <59356.168.215.206.73.1248812186.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <59411.168.215.206.73.1248873660.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> I promised a pint for Terri and considered shipping it to her, but had reservations about doing so. Don't want to get busted. Curt > > Great Curt, Christian and Terri will be there from GEM and they would be > real sad if you didn't! > > > >> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:16:26 -0600 >> From: curt at rustyiron.com >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show >> >> Steve, >> Be assured I am working on another batch of jars to bring to Portland. >> Curt >> >> >> > >> > Russell, You will be all right if you just remember one thing . When >> > someone passes you a fruit jar of clear or charcoal colored liquid >> > refreshment. Just take a sip and keep passing it around. Soon, you >> will be >> > having the time of your life! Yeee Haaaa, I can't wait. Steve >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:02:43 +1000 >> >> To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >> From: russell at ncable.com.au >> >> Subject: [SEL] Portland Show >> >> >> >> Gee it's very quiet you guys! Who going to Portland this year and >> >> what are you taking? I want to know I can look forwards to seeing. It >> >> has been quite a few years in the planing for us to make it to your >> >> show. Can't wait. >> >> Russell >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SEL mailing list >> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try >> it >> > now. >> > http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SEL mailing list >> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it > now. > http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From plowe at exemail.com.au Wed Jul 29 07:01:23 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:01:23 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Upside down Wizard mags Message-ID: Hi all Does anyone know if the upside down Wizard mags, as used on R&V engines and I guess others, give any particular problems out of the ordinary?? Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines From rdhaskell at juno.com Wed Jul 29 08:39:35 2009 From: rdhaskell at juno.com (rdhaskell at juno.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:39:35 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Upside down Wizard mags Message-ID: <20090729.083935.560.3.rdhaskell@juno.com> Hi Peter. Weren't those developed just for use down under? It is up here they give trouble. Should work flawlessly down there. Ron Haskell rdhaskell at juno.com Riverside, California USA http://picasaweb.google.com/RonHaskell On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:01:23 +1000 "Peter Lowe" writes: Hi all Does anyone know if the upside down Wizard mags, as used on R&V engines and I guess others, give any particular problems out of the ordinary?? Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines ____________________________________________________________ Workers Compensation Legal Advice. Click here http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTOcqG9avqDclehbhJbhuWKCJAcYmlkCd7wXCRioPFdtgR0FdrrYju/ From edurand at mchsi.com Wed Jul 29 12:49:06 2009 From: edurand at mchsi.com (Elden DuRand) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:49:06 -0500 Subject: [SEL] Portland Show In-Reply-To: <59411.168.215.206.73.1248873660.squirrel@www.rustyiron.com> Message-ID: Curt: PLEASE don't ship that stuff. If the package gets dropped, it'll level the whole block! Take care - Elden http://www.oldengine.org/members/durand > -----Original Message----- > From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com > [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com]On > Behalf Of > curt at rustyiron.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 08:21 AM > To: The SEL email discussion list > Subject: Re: [SEL] Portland Show > > > I promised a pint for Terri and considered > shipping it to her, but had > reservations about doing so. Don't want to get busted. > Curt From rotigel at me.com Wed Jul 29 12:27:55 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:27:55 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6ED876BB-0941-4DFF-8DB9-377B44702350@me.com> Sorry Guys! I think this one will work. Try: http://gallery.me.com/rotigel#100034 &bgcolor=black&view=grid Dave PS, Since I'm signed in, I can't tell for sure if others can now get in. Let me know. On Jul 29, 2009, at 1:59 AM, Listerdiesel wrote: > 2009/7/29 Dave Merchant : >> Would like to see the pix, but the site wants me to sign up to >> receive spam. >> >> Dave Merchant > > Same here, requires sign-in/registration to view the pictures. > > Peter From joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 29 12:18:01 2009 From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com (Joe Prindle) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <966146.50622.qm@web112602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi Steve, I am not going to make Portland this year. I am running low on vacation time and it wouldn't make sense to go on Saturday since everyone will be packing it in. I burned most of my vacation time in late May and early June when my wife had our first child, a girl named Emma. Photos can be found here: http://www.1020titan.com/emma.htm . I am hoping to make it to the show in Marshalltown and then Baraboo, Edgar (great show for early tractors), Rock River Thresheree and Albany, MN. Next year I hope to make Findlay and Portland. Hope all is well in your part of the world. Thanks, Joe Joe Prindle Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike Milligan --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Steve Royster wrote: > From: Steve Royster > Subject: Re: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 3:12 PM > > Hi Joe,? We won't be able to attend that one but > wondered if you were coming to Portland this year? We'd love > to see you again. Steve Royster > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:31:37 -0700 > > From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Subject: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show > > > > > > Hi, > > We are planning on going to the Marshalltown, IA show > this Saturday. http://www.miapa.org It would be nice to meet up with > any list members who are attending. We will have a barn > fresh Associated hired man, an associated cream seperator > and an 8 horse R & V. Maybe a few others, been spending > the past few weeks dragging stuff out of the barn and seeing > what will run. > > Last weekend we went to the Little Log House show in > Hastings, MN. http://www.littleloghouseshow.com It is a > very nice show, lots of stuff to see and do. The engine area > is not huge, but the quality is good and there are things > there for the kids and the missus to do. > > Later, > > Joe > > Joe Prindle > > Baraboo, WI USA > > "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't > make me happy." Spike Milligan > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live? Hotmail?: Search, add, and share the > web?s latest sports videos. Check it out. > http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From carl_scott at hotmail.com Wed Jul 29 12:48:16 2009 From: carl_scott at hotmail.com (Carl ) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:48:16 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <6ED876BB-0941-4DFF-8DB9-377B44702350@me.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com><6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <6ED876BB-0941-4DFF-8DB9-377B44702350@me.com> Message-ID: Thanks Dave, pics are fast and clear. Carlton Sorry Guys! I think this one will work. Try: http://gallery.me.com/rotigel#100034 &bgcolor=black&view=grid Dave PS, Since I'm signed in, I can't tell for sure if others can now get in. Let me know. From steve_royster at hotmail.com Wed Jul 29 13:17:43 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:17:43 -0400 Subject: [SEL] GEM Blog In-Reply-To: <6E467432-41DB-46DA-8992-796AD555AFD7@me.com> References: <6E467432-41DB-46DA-8992-796AD555AFD7@me.com> Message-ID: HI Dave, We all knew about the blog but hesitated to let you in on the fun. You see, we just thought at your age you had enough to process with SEL and SLICK already. If you decide you can handle it go easy at first! Your concerned friends. ps, Curt is bringing Terri fruit jars to Portland this year, do you know why, is she doing a canning demonstration for farm collector? pps, Why isn't he bringing some for Richard and Christian? ppps, Did you reserve the Back Room at the Back 40 so we could auction some fruit jars again this year? Steve > From: rotigel at me.com > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:36:56 -0400 > Subject: [SEL] GEM Blog > > Has everyone else already discovered the GEM blog at http://www.farmcollector.com/blogs/blog-landing.aspx > and simply neglected to tell me? Richard, Terri, Christian et.al. > They are all there! > Dave > PS, Give it a look. As that chick in the ad says--"This could be FUN!" > PS, Be sure to check out Christian's albums! > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?: Search, add, and share the web?s latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports From russell at ncable.com.au Wed Jul 29 15:46:33 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:46:33 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> Message-ID: <20090729224628.697CB3180A3@gex-cn05.ncable.net.au> Dave I can't get in with any of the links posted to date. Russell At 11:13 PM 29/07/2009, you wrote: >What happens if you go directly to: http://www.me.com/gallery/#100034 > Dave > >On Jul 29, 2009, at 1:59 AM, Listerdiesel wrote: > > > 2009/7/29 Dave Merchant : > >> Would like to see the pix, but the site wants me to sign up to > >> receive spam. > >> > >> Dave Merchant > > > > Same here, requires sign-in/registration to view the pictures. > > > > Peter >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bill at antique-engines.com Wed Jul 29 16:44:09 2009 From: bill at antique-engines.com (Bill Dickerson) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:44:09 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help pleasE? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sort of OT, sort of on. I do pull my flat bed with tractor and engines around and haul engines in the back.......... OK, 1995 Ford F250 3/4 ton 4x4 with 315 and automatic. Probably a heavy axle as it's got the larger of the lockout hubs on it - found that out when I busted a lockout 4 years after buying it. IT took the larger one. Brakes new about a year ago, tires not too bad, recently rotated. New pads, rotors turned. Was pulling a trailer with it when I realized that when you hit the brakes it felt like the left front was shaking or rather "jerking" back and forth, almost like a grabbing brake or a warped rotor, but then not really. Hard to tell for sure, but really felt like left side. Wouldn't go away with time, and it only does it when braking. Going down the road, turning, etc. no issues, good solid ride, but brake and it is almost scary. It does it with no trailer on behind now too. I raised the front end, pulled the wheels/tires and put my dial indicator on the rotors. Left side almost .001" runout, right side .0005" runout (note 3 zeros so not even 1 thousandth) Rotors and pads still look great and I was able to easily move the calipers back so I could spin the rotors. The calipers move smoothly with only hand or screwdriver. Nothing is stuck, rotors are really true, tires look ok. So I crawled under it and found the spring bushings are really weathered and cracked. Well, it's a 95 so it's almost 15 years old. But then I shone a light up into the front shackle area and found the top bushing for the left front spring shackle was really shot - in fact, bolt to metal, the bushing is split and moved away. Question - is that what I'm feeling? If this was a car I'd feel confident - I did front suspension work to help get through college and did many dozens of front end alignments and rebuilds and it was a full quarter in college, but I'm so out of touch with the larger trucks and their suspension and behaviour......... Thoughts???? Bill Runnells - cold and dry, record cold July From page at velocitynet.com.au Wed Jul 29 17:07:04 2009 From: page at velocitynet.com.au (Ron Page) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:07:04 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <6ED876BB-0941-4DFF-8DB9-377B44702350@me.com> Message-ID: <002301ca10a9$aba0a5b0$6c3bfea9@ronhh5b8az2uaq> Worked well for me this time. Ron Canberra -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of David Rotigel Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2009 5:28 AM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend Sorry Guys! I think this one will work. Try: http://gallery.me.com/rotigel#100034 &bgcolor=black&view=grid Dave PS, Since I'm signed in, I can't tell for sure if others can now get in. Let me know. On Jul 29, 2009, at 1:59 AM, Listerdiesel wrote: > 2009/7/29 Dave Merchant : >> Would like to see the pix, but the site wants me to sign up to >> receive spam. >> >> Dave Merchant > > Same here, requires sign-in/registration to view the pictures. > > Peter _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bboyce at swat.coop Wed Jul 29 17:33:50 2009 From: bboyce at swat.coop (bill boyce) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:33:50 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help pleasE? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help pleasE? bill,,,, i had a similar problem some time back on my dodge 3/4 ton,,, replaced all sorts of parts with no help,, finally an old parts salesman told me to replace the brake hose on that side, that it was collasping some sort of way and trapping the fluid on the rotor side of the hose,,, sounded way weird to me , but put a new one one, problem solved,,, hope this helps,,, bill boyce lost prairie, arkansas From jbcast at charter.net Wed Jul 29 18:11:38 2009 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:11:38 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help pleasE? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090729211138.THH89.2616931.root@mp18> Bill, any loose parts should be replaced. It still sounds more like a brake problem than a bad front end. Loose front end parts usually show up when hitting bumps, starting a side to side shaking. Does it have a shimmy dampener, a shock mounted on the tie rod. If so replace it, if not, purchase a kit and install it. Runout is not a critical factor on rotors, what you need to check is for fat and thin spots, with runout the caliper floats back and forth, possibly causing noise. If it has fat and thin spots it will grab and let go, causing pulsating. One cause of rotor damage is making a hard stop and holding your foot on the brake at a stop light. This cools the rotor in one spot while rest remains hot.In a sitiuation like this if you can let the vehicle creep it will help. J.B. Castagnos Belle Rose, LA From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Jul 29 20:04:59 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:04:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> Message-ID: <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> It doesn't recognize Internet Exploder 6.0. Dumb, lame Apple software. On Wed, July 29, 2009 9:13 am, David Rotigel wrote: > What happens if you go directly to: http://www.me.com/gallery/#100034 From rotigel at me.com Wed Jul 29 20:30:45 2009 From: rotigel at me.com (David Rotigel) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:30:45 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Hi Arnie, Use : http://gallery.me.com/ rotigel#100034&bgcolor=black&view=grid. That one seemes to be working even on retarded puter systems! Dave On Jul 29, 2009, at 11:04 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > It doesn't recognize Internet Exploder 6.0. Dumb, lame Apple > software. > > On Wed, July 29, 2009 9:13 am, David Rotigel wrote: >> What happens if you go directly to: http://www.me.com/gallery/#100034 > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Jul 29 20:30:25 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:30:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show In-Reply-To: <966146.50622.qm@web112602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <966146.50622.qm@web112602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40738465744b3176569e3c9228fe1520.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Hi Joe, Hey, CONGRATS!!! See ya at Baraboo. Arnie PS - Remember that grandkids are your reward for not killing and eating your young. On Wed, July 29, 2009 3:18 pm, Joe Prindle wrote: > > most of my vacation time in late May and early June when my wife had our first > child, a girl named Emma. Photos can be found here: > http://www.1020titan.com/emma.htm . From fero_ah at city-net.com Wed Jul 29 21:24:42 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:24:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: No joy... On Wed, July 29, 2009 11:30 pm, David Rotigel wrote: > Hi Arnie, Use : http://gallery.me.com/ > rotigel#100034&bgcolor=black&view=grid. That one seemes to be working > even on retarded puter systems! From rob at rustyiron.com Wed Jul 29 21:52:16 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:52:16 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: On Jul 29, 2009, at 8:04 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > It doesn't recognize Internet Exploder 6.0. Dumb, lame Apple > software. Holy smokes, Arnie. You're running eight year old software that isn't intended to do anything more than the most rudimentary web browsing. It's about time that you converted some of those w?n (?) into American Greenbacks, and buy something functional. Rob P.S. Veronica is dead. From ilifa at internode.on.net Wed Jul 29 21:59:47 2009 From: ilifa at internode.on.net (Eric Schulz) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:59:47 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Might I suggest that IE6 is very outdated. It costs nothing to upgrade to the latest edition. You are better off downloading Firefox, also free. Microsoft products are regarded as virus magnets. I tried http://gallery.me.com/rotigel#100034 using an old version of IE I still have on my Mac and it would not open it either. Eric Arnie Fero wrote: > It doesn't recognize Internet Exploder 6.0. Dumb, lame Apple > software. From falcon at telenet.net Wed Jul 29 23:00:12 2009 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:00:12 -0400 Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help pleasE? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A7136EC.1000603@telenet.net> Bill Dickerson wrote: > Sort of OT, sort of on. I do pull my flat bed with tractor and engines > around and haul engines in the back.......... > OK, 1995 Ford F250 3/4 ton 4x4 with 315 and automatic. Probably a heavy axle > as it's got the larger of the lockout hubs on it - found that out when I > busted a lockout 4 years after buying it. IT took the larger one. > > Brakes new about a year ago, tires not too bad, recently rotated. New pads, > rotors turned. > Was pulling a trailer with it when I realized that when you hit the brakes > it felt like the left front was shaking or rather "jerking" back and forth, > almost like a grabbing brake or a warped rotor, but then not really. Hard to > tell for sure, but really felt like left side. Wouldn't go away with time, > and it only does it when braking. Going down the road, turning, etc. no > issues, good solid ride, but brake and it is almost scary. > It does it with no trailer on behind now too. > I raised the front end, pulled the wheels/tires and put my dial indicator on > the rotors. Left side almost .001" runout, right side .0005" runout (note 3 > zeros so not even 1 thousandth) > Rotors and pads still look great and I was able to easily move the calipers > back so I could spin the rotors. The calipers move smoothly with only hand > or screwdriver. Nothing is stuck, rotors are really true, tires look ok. > So I crawled under it and found the spring bushings are really weathered and > cracked. Well, it's a 95 so it's almost 15 years old. But then I shone a > light up into the front shackle area and found the top bushing for the left > front spring shackle was really shot - in fact, bolt to metal, the bushing > is split and moved away. > Question - is that what I'm feeling? > If this was a car I'd feel confident - I did front suspension work to help > get through college and did many dozens of front end alignments and rebuilds > and it was a full quarter in college, but I'm so out of touch with the > larger trucks and their suspension and behaviour......... > > Thoughts???? > > Bill > Runnells - cold and dry, record cold July > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > Being a solid axle truck gets you away from the common C bushing problems. First replace ALL the spring bushings. What your feeling could easily be caused by the bad bushing allowing the spring to shift under braking. Especially when it comes/goes with braking, and the front bushing is bad. What you are feeling is essentially the same thing as spring wrap in the rear of a leaf spring hot rod. You step on the brake and the axle reacts by trying to twist. With the bad mount the spring can move farther and then the spring returns and what you feel is the oscillation of the spring. -- Steve W. From falcon at telenet.net Wed Jul 29 23:57:40 2009 From: falcon at telenet.net (Steve W.) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:57:40 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <4A714464.5020309@telenet.net> Eric Schulz wrote: > Might I suggest that IE6 is very outdated. It costs nothing to upgrade > to the latest edition. You are better off downloading Firefox, also > free. Microsoft products are regarded as virus magnets. > I tried http://gallery.me.com/rotigel#100034 using an old version of > IE I still have on my Mac and it would not open it either. > > Eric > > Arnie Fero wrote: > >> It doesn't recognize Internet Exploder 6.0. Dumb, lame Apple >> software. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > No problem opening it here. Used the old box with IE5, one with IE6 and even the toy with Win7 on it didn't have a problem. Neither of the Linux rigs had problems either. Firefox 2,3 and the latest beta all worked fine. I don't bother updating software until I find a real reason or something that it is required for. And even then I'll look for a work around. -- Steve W. From k_armstrong at arach.net.au Thu Jul 30 04:36:06 2009 From: k_armstrong at arach.net.au (kevin armstrong) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:36:06 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members References: Message-ID: Hello peter, Did you get a reply for this email as i have one and in need of information regards Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong Collectors of old things Perth WA Australia Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member V.C.C. of WA. member k_armstrong at arach.net.au www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter ogborne" To: Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 4:41 PM Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members > Is there anyone please who is familier with this engine .It is the > vertical two stroke . I would like an explanation of the governor and the > carburator. > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From cgandree at mchsi.com Thu Jul 30 04:41:13 2009 From: cgandree at mchsi.com (cgandree at mchsi.com) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:41:13 +0000 Subject: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show In-Reply-To: <966146.50622.qm@web112602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <966146.50622.qm@web112602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <073020091141.19806.4A7186D9000CA70B00004D5E223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Hey Joe hows come you waited so long to share those new baby pics with friends??? Cute little girl and congratulations to both of you! I expect to see her turning flywheels at Baraboo. Curt Andree-------------- Original message from Joe Prindle : -------------- > > Hi Steve, I am not going to make Portland this year. I am running low on vacation time and it wouldn't make sense to go on Saturday since everyone will be packing it in. I burned most of my vacation time in late May and early June when my wife had our first child, a girl named Emma. Photos can be found here: > http://www.1020titan.com/emma.htm . I am hoping to make it to the show in Marshalltown and then Baraboo, Edgar (great show for early tractors), Rock River Thresheree and Albany, MN. Next year > I hope to make Findlay and Portland. > Hope all is well in your part of the world. > Thanks, > Joe > Joe Prindle > Baraboo, WI USA "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy." Spike > Milligan > > > --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Steve Royster wrote: > > > From: Steve Royster > > Subject: Re: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show > > To: "The SEL email discussion list" > > Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 3:12 PM > > > > Hi Joe, We won't be able to attend that one but > > wondered if you were coming to Portland this year? We'd love > > to see you again. Steve Royster > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:31:37 -0700 > > > From: joe_prindle2001 at yahoo.com > > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > > Subject: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > We are planning on going to the Marshalltown, IA show > > this Saturday. http://www.miapa.org It would be nice to meet up with > > any list members who are attending. We will have a barn > > fresh Associated hired man, an associated cream seperator > > and an 8 horse R & V. Maybe a few others, been spending > > the past few weeks dragging stuff out of the barn and seeing > > what will run. > > > Last weekend we went to the Little Log House show in > > Hastings, MN. http://www.littleloghouseshow.com It is a > > very nice show, lots of stuff to see and do. The engine area > > is not huge, but the quality is good and there are things > > there for the kids and the missus to do. > > > Later, > > > Joe > > > Joe Prindle > > > Baraboo, WI USA > > > "All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't > > make me happy." Spike Milligan > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SEL mailing list > > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Windows Live? Hotmail?: Search, add, and share the > > web?s latest sports videos. Check it out. > > > http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA > _HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From bill at antique-engines.com Thu Jul 30 06:22:00 2009 From: bill at antique-engines.com (bill at antique-engines.com) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help pleasE? In-Reply-To: <4A7136EC.1000603@telenet.net> References: <4A7136EC.1000603@telenet.net> Message-ID: <2808.165.206.180.130.1248960120.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> That's my initial thought. The brakes themselves are easily moved - the calipers can be slid by hand, the pistons are free. If there was much out of parallel, the outer surfaces on each/both rotors would not have been well under spec, IMO. If the outer surfaces are true, that means any out of parallel would have to be fully and totally on the inside surfaces. Hard to imagine, possible I suppose, but hard to imagine the outer remaining true while the inside only warps, esp with smooth moving calipers that move freely. Non-scientific, but I did move the calipers and pads to the point where they JUST touched the rotor surfaces and spun the rotors by hand - you didn't hear a touch, no touch, touch, no touch sound, it was solid and constant, touching consistently with each rotation. I'm quite familiar with spring wrap - my 68 Javelin suffering major wheel-hop solved with slapper bars on the leafs. Torque links with new bushings solve the issue on my current 1970- Javelin, not to mention new HD semi-elliptical springs on the rear. When I come to a stop slowly and just rest my foot on the pedal with real light braking, I feel no pulsation in the pedal at all - not even the slightest. The pedal is always smooth and firm with no pulse. The steering wheel doesn't shake side-to-side either. It's just a weird, hard to describe thing. And although trained as a mechanic in the 70's and working front ends and suspension for years, I never really dealt with trucks at all (other than changing kingpins and I hated that!), and got out of the business in the early 80's before this design. Bill >> > > Being a solid axle truck gets you away from the common C bushing problems. > > First replace ALL the spring bushings. What your feeling could easily be > caused by the bad bushing allowing the spring to shift under braking. > Especially when it comes/goes with braking, and the front bushing is bad. > What you are feeling is essentially the same thing as spring wrap in the > rear of a leaf spring hot rod. You step on the brake and the axle reacts > by trying to twist. With the bad mount the spring can move farther and > then the spring returns and what you feel is the oscillation of the > spring. > > > -- > Steve W. > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com Thu Jul 30 08:44:15 2009 From: Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com (Richard Strobel) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:44:15 -0600 Subject: [SEL] Marshalltown, IA Show In-Reply-To: <966146.50622.qm@web112602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <073020091141.19806.4A7186D9000CA70B00004D5E223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> References: <966146.50622.qm@web112602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <073020091141.19806.4A7186D9000CA70B00004D5E223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF0A0A9D0B020E090C@mchsi.com> Message-ID: Atta boy Joe!! Congrat's to you and the Mom. My Aunt Emma was my second Mom and was one helluva gal!! Best Regards, RickinMt. From steve_royster at hotmail.com Thu Jul 30 09:30:20 2009 From: steve_royster at hotmail.com (Steve Royster) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:30:20 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show In-Reply-To: <966146.50622.qm@web112602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <966146.50622.qm@web112602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Joe, She's a real cutie! Thanks for sharing the pics. Have you bought her first engine yet? Start em young and bring her to the shows . See you next portland hopefully, Steve _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports From bigtime64 at hotmail.com Thu Jul 30 09:51:46 2009 From: bigtime64 at hotmail.com (Ed Herreid) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:51:46 +0000 Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help pleasE? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bill, I had a similar intermittent problem like below on my Cummins truck. The caliper would stick and sometimes would heat up and sometimes would do like you describe. Usually after driving in stop and go traffic. Then when I would get on the road and moving it would act up. Stop and let things cool down and the problem would go away. I checked the caliper several times and could not find anything wrong. Finally changed it out anyway and the problem still came back again. Changed the hose on the advise of another old timer and it has not returned yet. Ed Herreid > From: bboyce at swat.coop > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:33:50 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help pleasE? > > Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help pleasE? > > bill,,,, i had a similar problem some time back on my dodge 3/4 ton,,, > replaced all sorts of parts with no help,, finally an old > parts salesman told me to replace the brake hose on that side, that it was > collasping some sort of way and trapping the > fluid on the rotor side of the hose,,, sounded way weird to me , but put a > new one one, problem solved,,, hope this helps,,, > bill boyce > lost prairie, arkansas > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel _________________________________________________________________ NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. Click here. http://windowslive.com/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_MB_new_hotmail_072009 From kimmell at verizon.net Thu Jul 30 10:24:16 2009 From: kimmell at verizon.net (kimmell at verizon.net) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:24:16 +0000 Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help please? Message-ID: <1997202146-1248974770-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-520354320-@bxe1176.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Brake hoses can make crazy things happen. The hoses may look fine on the outside, but the inside breaks down over time and can clog up and cause the truck to pull one way or another or cause the caliper to lock up. I just got done replacing both front hoses on my old beater 1980 Chevy pickup a few days ago actually. The driver side caliper kept locking up and I figured it needed a new caliper. But the caliper let loose when I cracked the bleeder open... Clogged hose wasn't letting the pressure out after I let off the brake. -Tony Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect From jbcast at charter.net Thu Jul 30 10:37:49 2009 From: jbcast at charter.net (jbcast at charter.net) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:37:49 -0700 Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help pleasE? In-Reply-To: <2808.165.206.180.130.1248960120.squirrel@www.antique-engines.com> Message-ID: <20090730133749.RUKSB.2675176.root@mp11> ---- bill at antique-engines.com wrote: > That's my initial thought. The brakes themselves are easily moved - the > calipers can be slid by hand, the pistons are free. If there was much out > of parallel, the outer surfaces on each/both rotors would not have been > well under spec, IMO. If the outer surfaces are true, that means any out > of parallel would have to be fully and totally on the inside surfaces. > Hard to imagine, possible I suppose, but hard to imagine the outer > remaining true while the inside only warps, esp with smooth moving > calipers that move freely. If this truck were in my shop I would resurface the rotors before doing anything else. If you look at how a rotor is made, the outside is a solid disc all the way into the hub. The inside is a small disc supported by the fins. Which side has the better heat sink? Spring wrap and wheel hop is a rear axle problem under hard acceleration. The springs wrap up under torque and when the wheels break loose they unwrap, causing them to hop. If your front rotors are smooth there shouldn't be a pulsing to cause the springs to wrap and unwrap. I would keep it simple, if that doesn't work look farther. The brake hoses that give trouble are the ones with a bracket clamped around them. The hose expands and where the bracket is clamped it can only go inward, constricting the line. J.B. From bill at antique-engines.com Thu Jul 30 10:47:13 2009 From: bill at antique-engines.com (Bill Dickerson) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:47:13 -0500 Subject: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help please? In-Reply-To: <1997202146-1248974770-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-520354320-@bxe1176.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <84CD30B337D04B89868DEFC8943E2E61@l2800> All of the steel lines front to back, side to side are new. It won't hurt to replace hoses - and it's not that hard a job. Might do it anyway, just so I can say "all new brakes" including all lines and hoses. Bill -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of kimmell at verizon.net Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:24 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: Re: [SEL] OT - 3/4 ton truck question (for the pros) Help please? Brake hoses can make crazy things happen. The hoses may look fine on the outside, but the inside breaks down over time and can clog up and cause the truck to pull one way or another or cause the caliper to lock up. I just got done replacing both front hoses on my old beater 1980 Chevy pickup a few days ago actually. The driver side caliper kept locking up and I figured it needed a new caliper. But the caliper let loose when I cracked the bleeder open... Clogged hose wasn't letting the pressure out after I let off the brake. -Tony Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Jul 30 14:38:15 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:38:15 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show References: <966146.50622.qm@web112602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006501ca115e$0bed75b0$16614b47@mikecomp> Congrats Joe, but don't buy her one, I'll send you one of Steve's. I'm cleaning out his shed for him come Portland time........ Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Royster" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Spam> Marshalltown, IA Show Hi Joe, She's a real cutie! Thanks for sharing the pics. Have you bought her first engine yet? Start em young and bring her to the shows . See you next portland hopefully, Steve _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jopeter at omninet.net.au Thu Jul 30 15:38:31 2009 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:38:31 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members References: Message-ID: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> Hi Kevin...........No response at all through SEL . I have given up with SEL ,it consists of US content mainly . Those Australians that are on it seem to completly absorbed in the US. However I have been able to contact a former member of the now defunct TOMMS Forum .This was done through a network of very good and helpful ex members .We are going to establish this network to help us with our questions and answers. If you are interested let me know and I will add your email address to the list. Regarding the Sunshine Engine , what information do you want, if I have it I will let you know regards Peter Ogborne. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin armstrong" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members > Hello peter, > Did you get a reply for this email as i have one and in need of > information > > regards > > Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong > Collectors of old things > Perth > WA > Australia > Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member > V.C.C. of WA. member > k_armstrong at arach.net.au > www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "peter ogborne" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 4:41 PM > Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members > > >> Is there anyone please who is familier with this engine .It is the >> vertical two stroke . I would like an explanation of the governor and the >> carburator. >> _______________________________________________ >> SEL mailing list >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From russell at ncable.com.au Thu Jul 30 16:06:23 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:06:23 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members In-Reply-To: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> Message-ID: <20090730230615.8D388FC024@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> Interesting comments guys. Maybe some of us just don't know the answer! I know I don't. Many of the members from the TOMM forum have moved over to http://www.smokstak.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=115 Smokstak for Aussies. Maybe a good spot to try. Peter you asked me direct about a tomm list member. I replied in kind .... did you post and ask at the link I suggested? Maybe there is quite a bit of good help out and about. E-mail Mick Christie direct, he may also be able to help on sineshine engines. I'm sure he would reply once he gets an e-mail. He just might not live by the list Russell At 08:38 AM 31/07/2009, you wrote: >Hi Kevin...........No response at all through SEL . I have given up with >SEL ,it consists of US content mainly . Those Australians that are on it >seem to completly absorbed in the US. >However I have been able to contact a former member of the now defunct TOMMS >Forum .This was done through a network of very good and helpful ex members >.We are going to establish this network to help us with our questions and >answers. If you are interested let me know and I will add your email address >to the list. >Regarding the Sunshine Engine , what information do you want, if I have it I >will let you know >regards Peter Ogborne. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "kevin armstrong" >To: "The SEL email discussion list" >Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:36 PM >Subject: Re: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members > > > > Hello peter, > > Did you get a reply for this email as i have one and in need of > > information > > > > regards > > > > Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong > > Collectors of old things > > Perth > > WA > > Australia > > Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member > > V.C.C. of WA. member > > k_armstrong at arach.net.au > > www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "peter ogborne" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 4:41 PM > > Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members > > > > > >> Is there anyone please who is familier with this engine .It is the > >> vertical two stroke . I would like an explanation of the governor and the > >> carburator. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SEL mailing list > >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SEL mailing list > > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Jul 30 16:08:04 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:08:04 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members In-Reply-To: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> Message-ID: <6DDD0EAF-DC45-4095-919A-DF0914874747@rustyiron.com> On Jul 30, 2009, at 3:38 PM, peter ogborne wrote: > This was done through a network of very good and helpful ex members > .We are going to establish this network to help us with our > questions and > answers. If you are interested let me know and I will add your email > address > to the list. Why not answer the question here, so we can all benefit from your expertise, rather than making the poor bloke sign up to yet another list, and keeping your information secret from the rest of us? From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu Jul 30 16:30:27 2009 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:30:27 +1000 Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members In-Reply-To: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> Message-ID: Peter Somewhat BS > No response at all through SEL . I have given up with > SEL ,it consists of US content mainly . Those Australians that are on it > seem to completly absorbed in the US. I did reply to your original question (although poor name spelling) as I was blocked? to your email so posted what I knew to both SEL and ORG. in which I had no reply from you for my effort. > However I have been able to contact a former member of the now defunct > TOMMS > Forum .This was done through a network of very good and helpful ex members > .We are going to establish this network to help us with our questions and > answers. If you are interested let me know and I will add your email > address > to the list. A lot of Aussies are on Smokestack Down Under, ask your question there Kerry From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu Jul 30 17:52:26 2009 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:52:26 +1000 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> Message-ID: G'Day All Question in general, is there a increasing lack of people getting involved in discussion where help is asked. know I have been there on both sides, and it is frustrating in not getting an answer (specially English Crossley and National questions). My thoughts on reasons. 1. I know little or nothing about a particular engine but will wait for an answer to increase my knowledge. 2. I don't care, I don't have that engine so just delete the post 3. others know better so let them answer (they have in the past). 4. last time I tried to help, I jot blasted by others, so stuff it. 5. last time I tried to help I got no reply so not wasting my time again, 6. I only read the list and seldom post even if I could help. 7. I don't like him so will not answer. I know No5 gets up my nose, as I get a lot of questions off list, and after digging data out and replying get no answer, I would say now 50% cannot be bothered to even thank you. These lists were set up to help others are we losing that. Your thoughts Kerry Morris Lithgow NSW Oz From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Jul 30 18:16:10 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:16:10 -0700 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> Message-ID: <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> So what do you need to know about the Crossley and the National, mate? If I don't know the answer, I'll make it up. Incidentally, I've been missing a National part for quite some time, and last Friday came across an engine with the exact same configuration. Problem solved. Rob On Jul 30, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Kerry wrote: > know I have been there on both sides, and it is frustrating in not > getting > an answer (specially English Crossley and National questions). From sndakitto at activ8.net.au Thu Jul 30 18:51:10 2009 From: sndakitto at activ8.net.au (Steven N Kitto) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:51:10 +1000 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> Message-ID: <001801ca1181$65006ae0$2f0140a0$@net.au> Kerry The list has changed a lot over the years that I have been on it. My knowledge on engines is not great. I have Ronnie N's, Delco and Villiers and a lot of 32volt stuff. I enjoy reading many of the posts and especially the ones from Oz because they are often about engines that I see around the place, or I have used over the years. I am interested in the tips to master problems and I store them for future reference. I have always enjoyed the lists Atis and Old engine for the friends that I have met on line. Some I have had the privilege of meeting in person. I have appreciated this especially when life takes you through some very dark moments. I am always willing to share the little information/expertise that I have. I guess the many other forums that are available contribute to the change. I see some of the dilemma as part of a reflection of the world we live in and I am not sure we are "progressing" in many areas. Enough rambling, I'm in danger of getting into preaching mode. At least Sunday's sermon is done. Steve Steve and Denise Kitto 95 Coleyville Road Mutdapilly QLD Australia 4307 Ph 07 54671541 As water reflects a face, so a man's heart reflects the man. Proverbs 27:19 -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Sent: Friday, 31 July 2009 10:52 To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] List Maners G'Day All Question in general, is there a increasing lack of people getting involved in discussion where help is asked. From mr at carolina.rr.com Thu Jul 30 19:03:42 2009 From: mr at carolina.rr.com (Mike Royster) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:03:42 -0400 Subject: [SEL] List Maners References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> Message-ID: <005801ca1183$21399410$16614b47@mikecomp> For me it's usually because if I don't know the answer, no need to comment. Also I rarely get to read the emails before 9 at night, so usually somebody that also knows has beat me to it. The rest I don't worry about, being flamed by Dr. Dave is much like a rite of passage! I have learned much from the SEl and encourage all to participate with no fear. I have an older brother, been corrected all my life, no big deal! Join in guys and gals, it's fun and even educational. All the best, Mike Royster ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:52 PM Subject: [SEL] List Maners > G'Day All > > Question in general, is there a increasing lack of people getting involved > in discussion where help is asked. > > know I have been there on both sides, and it is frustrating in not getting > an answer (specially English Crossley and National questions). > My thoughts on reasons. > 1. I know little or nothing about a particular engine but will wait for an > answer to increase my knowledge. > 2. I don't care, I don't have that engine so just delete the post > 3. others know better so let them answer (they have in the past). > 4. last time I tried to help, I jot blasted by others, so stuff it. > 5. last time I tried to help I got no reply so not wasting my time again, > 6. I only read the list and seldom post even if I could help. > 7. I don't like him so will not answer. > > I know No5 gets up my nose, as I get a lot of questions off list, and > after > digging data out and replying get no answer, I would say now 50% cannot be > bothered to even thank you. > > These lists were set up to help others are we losing that. > Your thoughts > > Kerry Morris > Lithgow NSW Oz > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com Thu Jul 30 19:11:03 2009 From: BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com (BIGFLYWHEEL at aol.com) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:11:03 EDT Subject: [SEL] List Maners Message-ID: Your opinion and thought should always be given on this site. Just remember no matter where one goes there are always bitchers and complainers KK In a message dated 7/30/2009 7:06:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mr at carolina.rr.com writes: For me it's usually because if I don't know the answer, no need to comment. Also I rarely get to read the emails before 9 at night, so usually somebody that also knows has beat me to it. The rest I don't worry about, being flamed by Dr. Dave is much like a rite of passage! I have learned much from the SEl and encourage all to participate with no fear. I have an older brother, been corrected all my life, no big deal! Join in guys and gals, it's fun and even educational. All the best, Mike Royster **************Hot Deals at Dell on Popular Laptops perfect for Back to School (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223105306x1201716871/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D9) From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Jul 30 19:24:50 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <186752d04c50e5674c009889901dadd3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Who's Veronica? Was she hot? Did SHE use IE 6.0? Is that what killed her? On Thu, July 30, 2009 12:52 am, Rob Skinner wrote: > On Jul 29, 2009, at 8:04 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > >> It doesn't recognize Internet Exploder 6.0. Dumb, lame Apple >> software. > > > Holy smokes, Arnie. You're running eight year old software that isn't > intended to do anything more than the most rudimentary web browsing. > It's about time that you converted some of those w??n (???) into > American Greenbacks, and buy something functional. > > Rob > > P.S. > Veronica is dead. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > From george at irontrader.com Thu Jul 30 19:25:31 2009 From: george at irontrader.com (George Best) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:25:31 -0700 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> Message-ID: <000601ca1186$2eae38a0$8c0aa9e0$@com> Kerry, I think it's a combination of things. First of all there are fewer people posting messages to this list in general. We get very few messages compared to what we got many years ago. This is partly due to SmokStak becoming the more dominant forum for discussing engines and most of us use SmokStak as there is a better chance of getting a response to a question. Then there is also the matter of what engine(s) you post questions about. The less common an engine is, the less likely you'll get someone on this list to post a knowledgeable response. George -----Original Message----- From: sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com [mailto:sel-bounces at lists.stationary-engine.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:52 PM To: The SEL email discussion list Subject: [SEL] List Maners G'Day All Question in general, is there a increasing lack of people getting involved in discussion where help is asked. know I have been there on both sides, and it is frustrating in not getting an answer (specially English Crossley and National questions). My thoughts on reasons. 1. I know little or nothing about a particular engine but will wait for an answer to increase my knowledge. 2. I don't care, I don't have that engine so just delete the post 3. others know better so let them answer (they have in the past). 4. last time I tried to help, I jot blasted by others, so stuff it. 5. last time I tried to help I got no reply so not wasting my time again, 6. I only read the list and seldom post even if I could help. 7. I don't like him so will not answer. I know No5 gets up my nose, as I get a lot of questions off list, and after digging data out and replying get no answer, I would say now 50% cannot be bothered to even thank you. These lists were set up to help others are we losing that. Your thoughts Kerry Morris Lithgow NSW Oz _______________________________________________ SEL mailing list SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From fero_ah at city-net.com Thu Jul 30 20:35:28 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:35:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <2b69d2d71a39635f965a42b8bad149c8.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> OK, this is a test, right? Just seeing if folks actually read carefully what you wrote? See ya, Arnie On Thu, July 30, 2009 9:16 pm, Rob Skinner wrote: > So what do you need to know about the Crossley and the National, > mate? If I don't know the answer, I'll make it up. Incidentally, > I've been missing a National part for quite some time, and last Friday > came across an engine with the exact same configuration. Problem > solved. From ozengine at optusnet.com.au Thu Jul 30 21:19:45 2009 From: ozengine at optusnet.com.au (Kerry) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:19:45 +1000 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: <2b69d2d71a39635f965a42b8bad149c8.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a><7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> <2b69d2d71a39635f965a42b8bad149c8.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: Arnie I saw the bit "Ill make if up" and not sure how Rob got the bit, so not going any further with his post :-)) Kerry > OK, this is a test, right? > Just seeing if folks actually read carefully what you wrote? > > See ya, Arnie > > On Thu, July 30, 2009 9:16 pm, Rob Skinner wrote: >> So what do you need to know about the Crossley and the National, >> mate? If I don't know the answer, I'll make it up. Incidentally, >> I've been missing a National part for quite some time, and last Friday >> came across an engine with the exact same configuration. Problem >> solved. > > > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Thu Jul 30 22:09:46 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:09:46 -0700 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: <186752d04c50e5674c009889901dadd3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <186752d04c50e5674c009889901dadd3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: On Jul 30, 2009, at 7:24 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > Who's Veronica? Was she hot? Did SHE use IE 6.0? > Is that what killed her? Yes, I suppose it could be said that Internet Explorer helped hammer the last nail into Veronica's coffin. From kosh at ncweb.com Thu Jul 30 23:05:38 2009 From: kosh at ncweb.com (Dave Merchant) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:05:38 -0400 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: References: <186752d04c50e5674c009889901dadd3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <186752d04c50e5674c009889901dadd3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20090731020502.0c95e870@ncweb.com> I could answer this, but it's too much fun to watch. Dave Merchant At 01:09 AM 7/31/2009, you wrote: >On Jul 30, 2009, at 7:24 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > > > Who's Veronica? Was she hot? Did SHE use IE 6.0? > > Is that what killed her? > >Yes, I suppose it could be said that Internet Explorer helped hammer >the last nail into Veronica's coffin. > > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel Dave Merchant kosh at nesys.com nesys_com at ameritech.net dmerchant at layerzero.com http://www.nesys.com http://www.nesys.org YouTube: SteamCrane From russell at ncable.com.au Thu Jul 30 23:25:03 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:25:03 +1000 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <20090731062454.94A723045D3@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> I thought no one answered Kerry's question because we just don't have any interest in Crossley's or Nationals! At 11:16 AM 31/07/2009, you wrote: >So what do you need to know about the Crossley and the National, >mate? If I don't know the answer, I'll make it up. Incidentally, >I've been missing a National part for quite some time, and last Friday >came across an engine with the exact same configuration. Problem >solved. > >Rob > > > > >On Jul 30, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Kerry wrote: > > know I have been there on both sides, and it is frustrating in not > > getting > > an answer (specially English Crossley and National questions). > >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From jopeter at omninet.net.au Fri Jul 31 02:01:34 2009 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:01:34 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> <20090730230615.8D388FC024@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: Russell I thought i had replied and thanked you as i always make a point of answering and thanking . No excuse if I did not so please accept my apoligy. I did attempt the link you gave me but no good .In the meantime as I said to Kevin Armstrong I was able to contact someone here in Australia ,Paul Newman. Paul had all the answers .These if I hear from Kevin Armstrong and what he wants to know I will certainly let him have it. I did not pursue my quest for information on the Sunshine Type C on SEL as it would be very surprising if anyone in the US could help . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Gilbert" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members > Interesting comments guys. Maybe some of us just don't know the > answer! I know I don't. Many of the members from the TOMM forum have > moved over to http://www.smokstak.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=115 > Smokstak for Aussies. Maybe a good spot to try. > > Peter you asked me direct about a tomm list member. I replied in kind > .... did you post and ask at the link I suggested? Maybe there is > quite a bit of good help out and about. E-mail Mick Christie direct, > he may also be able to help on sineshine engines. I'm sure he would > reply once he gets an e-mail. He just might not live by the list > Russell > > > At 08:38 AM 31/07/2009, you wrote: >>Hi Kevin...........No response at all through SEL . I have given up >>with >>SEL ,it consists of US content mainly . Those Australians that are on it >>seem to completly absorbed in the US. >>However I have been able to contact a former member of the now defunct >>TOMMS >>Forum .This was done through a network of very good and helpful ex members >>.We are going to establish this network to help us with our questions and >>answers. If you are interested let me know and I will add your email >>address >>to the list. >>Regarding the Sunshine Engine , what information do you want, if I have it >>I >>will let you know >>regards Peter Ogborne. >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "kevin armstrong" >>To: "The SEL email discussion list" >>Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:36 PM >>Subject: Re: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members >> >> >> > Hello peter, >> > Did you get a reply for this email as i have one and in need of >> > information >> > >> > regards >> > >> > Kevin & Lorraine Armstrong >> > Collectors of old things >> > Perth >> > WA >> > Australia >> > Vintage Tractor & Machinery Association member >> > V.C.C. of WA. member >> > k_armstrong at arach.net.au >> > www.oldengine.org/members/armstrong >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "peter ogborne" >> > To: >> > Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 4:41 PM >> > Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members >> > >> > >> >> Is there anyone please who is familier with this engine .It is the >> >> vertical two stroke . I would like an explanation of the governor and >> >> the >> >> carburator. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SEL mailing list >> >> SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> >> http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SEL mailing list >> > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >> > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SEL mailing list >>SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >>http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From jopeter at omninet.net.au Fri Jul 31 02:15:43 2009 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:15:43 +0800 Subject: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> <6DDD0EAF-DC45-4095-919A-DF0914874747@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <690A7A09B9F5424BB16E40C0AC6B0112@acer8ff47bfe9a> Do I detect a note of sarcasm here ........if I get the question and I know the answer I will be only too pleased to let you have the benifit of my expertise / ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Skinner" To: "The SEL email discussion list" Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [SEL] Sunshine engine ....Australian members > On Jul 30, 2009, at 3:38 PM, peter ogborne wrote: > >> This was done through a network of very good and helpful ex members >> .We are going to establish this network to help us with our >> questions and >> answers. If you are interested let me know and I will add your email >> address >> to the list. > > Why not answer the question here, so we can all benefit from your > expertise, rather than making the poor bloke sign up to yet another > list, and keeping your information secret from the rest of us? > > _______________________________________________ > SEL mailing list > SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com > http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Jul 31 06:13:43 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:13:43 -0700 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: <20090731062454.94A723045D3@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> <20090731062454.94A723045D3@gex-cn02.ncable.net.au> Message-ID: On Jul 30, 2009, at 11:25 PM, Russell Gilbert wrote: > I thought no one answered Kerry's question because we just don't have > any interest in Crossley's or Nationals! Didn't you read, mate? The SEL is a Yank list. We don't like those stinky Pom motors. Rob P.S. I'll send you some pics of both, offlist. From oldironnut at windstream.net Fri Jul 31 07:44:29 2009 From: oldironnut at windstream.net (Michael Tucker) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:44:29 -0400 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> Message-ID: <4F1878A2-9227-4F4A-992E-11897027D66B@windstream.net> On Jul 30, 2009, at 9:16 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > Incidentally, I've been missing a National part for quite some > time, and last Friday > came across an engine with the exact same configuration. Problem > solved. > > Rob So does "problem solved" mean that you waited until the bloke left his engine and then you stole the part that you needed? Mike From flywheelin at hotmail.com Fri Jul 31 08:42:26 2009 From: flywheelin at hotmail.com (Luke Tonneberger) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:42:26 +0000 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: <4F1878A2-9227-4F4A-992E-11897027D66B@windstream.net> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> <4F1878A2-9227-4F4A-992E-11897027D66B@windstream.net> Message-ID: Mike, I don't think he stole the part. He said it had the exact same configuration, which would mean the part was also missing on the other engine. I don't get the "problem solved" part either. Maybe he shot the guy? Luke Tonneberger Rockford, Michigan USA ====================== > From: oldironnut at windstream.net > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:44:29 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SEL] List Maners > > On Jul 30, 2009, at 9:16 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > Incidentally, I've been missing a National part for quite some > > time, and last Friday > > came across an engine with the exact same configuration. Problem > > solved. > > > > Rob > > So does "problem solved" mean that you waited until the bloke left his > engine and then you stole the part that you needed? > > Mike > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?: Search, add, and share the web?s latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Jul 31 12:01:12 2009 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:01:12 +0100 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> Message-ID: <6f6025160907311201t5e55daao2baf6762df4542e7@mail.gmail.com> 2009/7/31 Kerry : > G'Day All > > Question in general, is there a increasing lack of people getting involved > in discussion where help is asked. Hi Kerry: Crossleys and Nationals are not that common here either, apart from the smaller twin side-shaft ones and the like. As has already been mentioned by George, the whole internet community has changed since the 1990's when a lot of us first got involved. Now we have Smokstak, Facebook, untold numbers of smaller forums and so on. Most days I just don't get the time to spend on all of them, so restrict myself to the two engine lists and the 'Stak. Our own small UK engine forum also takes up a lot of admin time for me, and we seem to be growing the membership steadily. Engine-wise I have more in the workshop than ever, mainly the Ruston 1ZHR which is going to be at Nuenen next year, plus a whole load of other bits and pieces that we are playing with. We won't be at Portland this year, had to give it a miss as we had spent a small fortune on getting the house rebuild done over the winter, and the recession has taken a lot of our income away for the short term. We get to go to SFO in October though, our two adopted granddaughters are coming over for a week or so to see the USA for the first time. Regards to all, Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From listerdiesel at gmail.com Fri Jul 31 12:09:13 2009 From: listerdiesel at gmail.com (Listerdiesel) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:09:13 +0100 Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <6f6025160907311209t717616a2pa273ba29ea4bc2b5@mail.gmail.com> 2009/7/30 David Rotigel : > Hi Arnie, Use : http://gallery.me.com/ > rotigel#100034&bgcolor=black&view=grid. That one seemes to be working > even on retarded puter systems! > ? ? ? ?Dave > That opens OK, Dave, but there's a line break in the url, it should be: http://gallery.me.com/rotigel#100034&bgcolor=black&view=grid Your original had two spaces before rotigel#100034 etc. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From jerrye at databak.co.za Fri Jul 31 14:45:06 2009 From: jerrye at databak.co.za (Jerry Evans) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:45:06 +0200 Subject: [SEL] List Maners Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090731202614.0224ac78@mail.atech.co.za> At 06:00 PM 31/07/2009, you wrote: >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:52:26 +1000 >From: "Kerry" >Subject: [SEL] List Maners > >G'Day All > >Question in general, is there a increasing lack of people getting involved >in discussion where help is asked. > >know I have been there on both sides, and it is frustrating in not getting >an answer (specially English Crossley and National questions). >My thoughts on reasons. >1. I know little or nothing about a particular engine but will wait for an >answer to increase my knowledge. >2. I don't care, I don't have that engine so just delete the post >3. others know better so let them answer (they have in the past). >4. last time I tried to help, I jot blasted by others, so stuff it. >5. last time I tried to help I got no reply so not wasting my time again, >6. I only read the list and seldom post even if I could help. >7. I don't like him so will not answer. >I know No5 gets up my nose, as I get a lot of questions off list, and after >digging data out and replying get no answer, I would say now 50% cannot be >bothered to even thank you. >These lists were set up to help others are we losing that. >Your thoughts >Kerry Morris >Lithgow NSW Oz Hi Kerry and Peter, (Be prepared for a marathon answer.) Very interesting and relevant thread - sorry I'm only coming in at the end but I only get the "Digest version" of SEL and by that time there are already many answers (and sometimes the thread is already dead). As most you know, I'm still a newbie to both engine collecting/restoring and the lists (it's only been about 5 years - many of you have been here from the beginning) and I do not even have any really "glamorous" engines like many of you do but I love my engines and the hobby and the people I've met through it. Yes the lists (SEL & Oldengine) are getting quieter and places like "Smokstak" are livelier (sp.?) but I will never leave these 2 lists for the simple reason that I have made so many friends on them (even if we've never met in person) and have learnt so much from the members. Being a newbie I cannot answer many of the questions asked so obviously will not reply but that does not mean that I do not read each and every post. When I find one that I can offer an answer to I do so immediately. On the other hand, when I ask questions I get lots of help from guys who are far more experienced than me and I appreciate each and every one. I also try my best to write back and say "Thanks" to everyone (sometimes all in 1 post). Now, at the risk of being "flamed". Peter (Ogborne) you were the first person who flamed me (probably deservedly) on this list but I think that we overcame that and I consider you to be a friend today so allow me to say this. Peter, you posted a question about an Aussie made engine and got no replies. Well, don't blame the list, most of us know very little about Aussie engines (I know a little about my Ronnie N and it's a great little engine but that's all I know about Aussie engines -O.K. I've also got an Aussie Southern Cross AC A Southern Cross aircooled diesel and 2 Moffat Virtues awaiting restoration) but even if someone posted a question about the Moffats I would not be able to answer as I have not worked on them yet. That's probably why you got no answers - nobody, on this list, knew the answer. Yes, you are right, most of the "active" members on this list are Yanks. Aus has a few "active" members (at a guess I'd say less than 10), Britain has probably less than 5 "active" members and then there's me in South Africa and 1 guy in New Zealand. (Note the "quotes" - I mentioned "active" members - not lurkers.) I've also posted the odd question and not had an answer but that is very definitely in the minority. I have received unbelievable help from members of these lists and in many cases that help has gone much further than simply answering an email. You Aussies helped me tremendously when I restored the Ronnie N, I had a manual posted to me, someone else posted me an original muffler at no charge (when I saw the cost of postage I felt very guilty and wrote offering to at least reimburse him for that - he refused), I had drawings, a Ronaldson & Tippet Centennial Brochure, decals, Aussie flags and more posted to me. Of course I could also never forget that it was Reg who, following a request to the lists, actually found the engine for me. and set the whole thing in motion. Today, that little Ronnie N has a very special place in my collection (and my heart). Without these lists and their members that would never have happened. I have great appreciation for all the help I received. Then when I restored the Wolseley Type "R" (most of the surviving engines are in Aus) I had just as much help from Aussie members. Again, only because I had "met" them on these lists. More recently I needed to buy some coils from ebay for a Maytag and put an urgent plea out to the lists for help. The response was overwhelming - I'm not mentioning names (you all know who you are) but so many members offered their help - this to a stranger - I just could not believe that people could be so ready to help. These guys were all from the USA. (Yanks as we so lovingly call them). Thanks to you all. (Arnie and Dave -shuddup :-) Peter, do not take what I've said as a rebuke - these are just my feelings about these lists and their members. I think that they are the most helpful and friendly bunch of guys (and girls) around. O.K. that sorts out my answer to Peter. Now to Kerry, (Your question.) "Question in general, is there a increasing lack of people getting involved in discussion where help is asked. know I have been there on both sides, and it is frustrating in not getting an answer (specially English Crossley and National questions)." (My answer): Yes I believe there is but have no answer as to why this is so. Maybe it is because there are more specialised forums dealing with particular makes of engines or problems (like Smokstak) where you can post a question or start a new thread and only those people who have the knowledge or experience of that particular engine or problem will respond. Regarding Crossley and National - bear in mind that most of these went to the British colonies - and Aus probably has more "survivors" than even Britain - there cannot be too many in the USA - Britain must still have quite a few (but these lists do not have many "active" British members), South Africa has a few but most of our collectors who have engines like that are "Old Farts" who are not members of the "computer age" and do not participate in lists like this. (Your other questions answered below - as I see the answers) "My thoughts on reasons." 1. I know little or nothing about a particular engine but will wait for an answer to increase my knowledge. (My answer). Probably "Yes". There are many posts to the lists about engines that were never seen in South Africa (or elsewhere) but I always read them and learn. I cannot participate in the discussion. 2. I don't care, I don't have that engine so just delete the post. (My answer). Similar to the last answer except that I never delete engine post - it goes into a mailbox called "Engine Stuff" for later reference if needed. If the question relates to an engine that I do not know but maybe know of someone who owns a similar engine then I will watch the thread and if answers are not forthcoming then I will offer to ask the guy that I know. 3. others know better so let them answer (they have in the past). (My answer) Yes, if I cannot add to the thread then how can I answer. 4. last time I tried to help, I jot blasted by others, so stuff it. (My answer) Hard one to answer - why did you get blasted? If I can add any value I will answer. 5. last time I tried to help I got no reply so not wasting my time again, (My answer) Yes that happens and it's very bad manners not to say "Thanks" and I agree with you - but it's not the "list", it's just one bad mannered member.(see further down) 6. I only read the list and seldom post even if I could help. (My answer) They're called lurkers :-) 7. I don't like him so will not answer. (My answer) Yes, that happens. I know No5 gets up my nose, as I get a lot of questions off list, and after digging data out and replying get no answer, I would say now 50% cannot be bothered to even thank you. (My answer) Kerry, I feel very strongly about this and I could not agree with you more on this one. Because my webpage is probably the best known (or only) one in South Africa I get 1 or 2 emails a week from people who have found "such and such" and engine and "where can they buy parts" or "how do they fix this" or "how much is it worth?". I always go to great lengths to reply and often take photo's or scan pages from manuals, supply links to sites that will help them and suchlike. Many replies take me an hour or two to do. Then the "low life" bastard does not even have the courtesy to reply and say "Thank you". Who the hell does he think he is (or who I am). I have been seriously considering putting a BIG notice on my webpage using UGLY language to tell these "Arseholes" where to get off. (Apologies to you and the list for the heavy language but I feel very strongly about this.) I will go out of my way to help anyone - is a small "thank you" note too much to expect in return ? These lists were set up to help others are we losing that. (My answer) I do not really think so but maybe we are becoming a bit lazy in this respect. For my part I do not think "we are losing that" - as mentioned, I have received so much help and knowledge from list members. Unfortunately, as a newbie, I cannot contribute much but I sure as hell have learnt a lot. Thanks to all list members for your help and friendship. Keep the revs up (or down) Jerry Evans Near Johannesburg in Sunny South Africa. Etched Brass Engine Plates made to order: From rustaholic777 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 31 15:13:52 2009 From: rustaholic777 at yahoo.com (Alan) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: <6f6025160907311201t5e55daao2baf6762df4542e7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <790370.38004.qm@web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You get to go to SFO? And you are telling all of us? I googled it and was shocked to see where you were taking them. Serious Fraud Office | Welcome to the SFO 10 Jul 2009 ... The Serious Fraud Office is a government department and is part of the UK criminal justice system. Its aim is to investigate and prosecute ... www.sfo.gov.uk/ - ? Alan --- On Fri, 7/31/09, Listerdiesel wrote: From: Listerdiesel Subject: Re: [SEL] List Maners To: "The SEL email discussion list" Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 3:01 PM 2009/7/31 Kerry : > G'Day All > > Question in general, is there a increasing lack of people getting involved > in discussion where help is asked. Hi Kerry: Crossleys and Nationals are not that common here either, apart from the smaller twin side-shaft ones and the like. As has already been mentioned by George, the whole internet community has changed since the 1990's when a lot of us first got involved. Now we have Smokstak, Facebook, untold numbers of smaller forums and so on. Most days I just don't get the time to spend on all of them, so restrict myself to the two engine lists and the 'Stak. Our own small UK engine forum also takes up a lot of admin time for me, and we seem to be growing the membership steadily. Engine-wise I have more in the workshop than ever, mainly the Ruston 1ZHR which is going to be at Nuenen next year, plus a whole load of other bits and pieces that we are playing with. We won't be at Portland this year, had to give it a miss as we had spent a small fortune on getting the house rebuild done over the winter, and the recession has taken a lot of our income away for the short term. We get to go to SFO in October though, our two adopted granddaughters are coming over for a week or so to see the USA for the first time. Regards to all, Peter -- Peter A Forbes Email: listerdiesel at gmail.com http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel http://stationary-engine.co.uk http://www.oldengine.co.uk From russell at ncable.com.au Fri Jul 31 15:48:18 2009 From: russell at ncable.com.au (Russell Gilbert) Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 08:48:18 +1000 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> <4F1878A2-9227-4F4A-992E-11897027D66B@windstream.net> Message-ID: <20090731224807.B0098FC0AE@gex-cn04.ncable.net.au> Luke Kerry's not big on guns. mmmm I'm thinking he may have pushed him down a mine shaft before he retired! Russell At 01:42 AM 1/08/2009, you wrote: >Mike, > > > >I don't think he stole the part. He said it had >the exact same configuration, which would mean >the part was also missing on the other engine. I >don't get the "problem solved" part either. Maybe he shot the guy? > >Luke Tonneberger > >Rockford, Michigan > >USA > >====================== > > > From: oldironnut at windstream.net > > To: sel at lists.stationary-engine.com > > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:44:29 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [SEL] List Maners > > > > On Jul 30, 2009, at 9:16 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: > > > Incidentally, I've been missing a National part for quite some > > > time, and last Friday > > > came across an engine with the exact same configuration. Problem > > > solved. > > > > > > Rob > > > > So does "problem solved" mean that you waited until the bloke left his > > engine and then you stole the part that you needed? > > > > Mike > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Windows Live? Hotmail?: Search, add, and share >the web?s latest sports videos. Check it out. >http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports >_______________________________________________ >SEL mailing list >SEL at lists.stationary-engine.com >http://www.stationary-engine.com/mailman/listinfo/sel From rob at rustyiron.com Fri Jul 31 16:19:39 2009 From: rob at rustyiron.com (Rob Skinner) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:19:39 -0700 Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: <4F1878A2-9227-4F4A-992E-11897027D66B@windstream.net> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> <4F1878A2-9227-4F4A-992E-11897027D66B@windstream.net> Message-ID: <88BFBA6B-9F81-4BC6-A925-3758D0841D12@rustyiron.com> On Jul 31, 2009, at 7:44 AM, Michael Tucker wrote: > > So does "problem solved" mean that you waited until the bloke left his > engine and then you stole the part that you needed? > > Mike Mr. Tucker, if you ever pack up that lovely unwrinkled lass and head west of the Colorado, you will find that trustworthiness, loyalty, helpfulness, friendliness, courtesy, kindness, obedience, cheerfulness, thriftiness, bravery, cleanliness and reverence are qualities that are respected, valued, and adhered to by the majority of the population. From plowe at exemail.com.au Fri Jul 31 17:32:47 2009 From: plowe at exemail.com.au (Peter Lowe) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:32:47 +1000 Subject: [SEL] List Maners References: <5.2.1.1.2.20090731202614.0224ac78@mail.atech.co.za> Message-ID: <1E42973CD20B4AC28B36DE68AC301756@peterlowe> > Hi Kerry and Peter, > (Be prepared for a marathon answer.) > Very interesting and relevant thread - sorry I'm only coming in at > the end but I only get the "Digest version" of SEL and by that time there > are already many answers (and sometimes the thread is already dead). Hi Jerry Well said mate. As a so called Newbie I can vouch that you have been more than active in helping where you can and it has been a pleasure in helping you where I can. I have been a List member for over 10 years, back in the Indiana.edu days. We have had our spats, our way off topic subjects, our rants and raves. As has been said, there are other forums also which reduce traffic. I run the International R&V Engine Register and the help from those guys is fantastic, when they get slack I give them a rev. Society in general is giving less of a stuff these days, not just the various forums, too much apathy in general. Recently I asked if anyone had an ignitor trip for my Stover KA, right away Ron Haskell stepped in, he had a spare for sale at a very reasonable price. I asked for help with the spark plug type, Curt Andree and others came back with the answer and offers of supplying. For those interested, the answer was Champion W14. Both question were not flooded with answers, but those who knew the answers or could help, did. and I am very appreciative to all concerned. The rest of the conversations were done OFF LIST. I make a habit of thanking all that post to me, if I occasionally miss someone then it was not intentional I can assure you. Some people sit of their computers all day and expect an answer immediately, well some of us work, some go to Shows, so be patient. I only go to SmokStak very occassionally, Patrick Livingstone has been very helpful in watching out for R&V adverts and questions for me of which I am also very appreciative. So all in all, I am very happy with BOTH LISTS. I always GOOGLE things I want to know first, if nothing shows up that I go to the LISTS. Kerry, if I knew about Crossley and National I would be first to help mate, but I don't., sorry ;-)) My $0.02 worth. Regards Peter Lowe R&V Engine Registrar Australia http://www.oldengine.org/members/plowe/rv-engines/rvpage.htm Skype name: ozengines From jopeter at omninet.net.au Fri Jul 31 18:30:46 2009 From: jopeter at omninet.net.au (peter ogborne) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 09:30:46 +0800 Subject: [SEL] List manners Message-ID: <05B17FB0ABAB46F1B79BEE3CF0D8D3D0@acer8ff47bfe9a> Jerry can I slip this in while you take breath? I dont feel that i was complaining mearly telling a fellow member who was asking me a question that I was not getting anywhere with SEL.on that particular question. Yes I had got back a couple of answers ,one from Kerry and one from Reg Ingold ,both appreciated but unfortunately not leading to any further help. As I have said I have through a ''Network'' obtained the help that I desired. I appreciate that if anyone on SEL had been able to help they would have Having said that I do feel that the SEL is not what it used to be .......of course the replies to that statement will go somewhere else! An interesting dilema arises ......should I quote an answer on SEL that is attributed to a non SEL member. I suppose if I re word it it is ethical....what do you think? From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Jul 31 20:02:31 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:02:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] Visiting An Old Friend In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.9.0.20090729015023.0bdcdcc0@ncweb.com> <6f6025160907282259x2a71b53dr14eb4b79cd7cf2ac@mail.gmail.com> <91297A31-8735-4B0A-8DFA-0CE592FBF3A6@me.com> <90297b4c7d57c9e6e9489885faa48ddc.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> <186752d04c50e5674c009889901dadd3.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Message-ID: <3d9b80d59fa4c3d516990ee1ea547a13.squirrel@webmail.city-net.com> Ahhh, a vampire then. Like True Blood perhaps? On Fri, July 31, 2009 1:09 am, Rob Skinner wrote: > On Jul 30, 2009, at 7:24 PM, Arnie Fero wrote: > >> Who's Veronica? Was she hot? Did SHE use IE 6.0? >> Is that what killed her? > > Yes, I suppose it could be said that Internet Explorer helped hammer > the last nail into Veronica's coffin. From fero_ah at city-net.com Fri Jul 31 20:35:33 2009 From: fero_ah at city-net.com (Arnie Fero) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SEL] List Maners In-Reply-To: <4F1878A2-9227-4F4A-992E-11897027D66B@windstream.net> References: <49034796B92A4798AEFBA22859EBCA22@acer8ff47bfe9a> <7A5D10EF-D91D-42A5-8952-E5CFBD38F756@rustyiron.com> <4F1878A2-9227-4F4A-992E-11897027D66B@windstream.net> Message-ID: No Mike, he couldn't. Remember that Rob said that the second engine he found was the same configuration as his; i.e. missing the SAME PART. 8-)) See ya, Arnie On Fri, July 31, 2009 10:44 am, Michael Tucker wrote: > On Jul 30, 2009, at 9:16 PM, Rob Skinner wrote: >> Incidentally, I've been missing a National part for quite some >> time, and last Friday >> came across an engine with the exact same configuration. Problem >> solved. >> Rob > > So does "problem solved" mean that you waited until the bloke left his > engine and then you stole the part that you needed? > > Mike