[SEL] question about oil engines

Judge Tommy Turner Lcjudge at scrtc.com
Thu Feb 5 04:13:59 PST 2009


Thanks John for that explanation.  I've often wondered about the
terminology used  by some of the English builders in regards to the fuel
powering their engines.  I now know!

Tommy Turner
Magnolia, KY USA




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The oil that the early engines used here in England,such as
Hornsby,Crossley,Campbell,Petter,etc,etc,All used without exception what
we called 'lamp oil'.What you guys call kerosene,we also called it
paraffin. They all again without exception were low compression engines
that relied on retained heat in the vapouriser to effect ignition.
Hornsby claimed to preempt Dr Diesel which was ridiculous but that
jealousy still exist to some extent today hear in good old England.
Cummins called these engines an interim solution,they were a stop gap
till the Diesel was commercially acceptable.they were either too hot or
too cold,I would not like to have used them commercially.It was not till
later 1910? that the heavier oils such as Gas oil was used.The term Gas
oil was used because it was used in gas industry to enrich coal gas.It
was what we term today Diesel Fuel.About this time light crude,boiler
fuel was used here as well.Semi Diesel is a term that came in around
1910,usually two stroke direct injection engines,with higher
pressures,by nowhere near a Diesel.> From: ilifa at internode.on.net> To:
sel at lists.stationary-engine.com> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:03:27 +1100>
Subject: Re: [SEL] question about oil engines> > > On 05/02/2009, at
10:19 AM, Rob Skinner wrote:> > > I did a more comprehensive, although
not nearly all-inclusive article> > that you can download:> >
http://engines.rustyiron.com/articles/AlternativeFuel.pdf> > Rob, as you
said, "oil" was a very flexible term. In Australia we even > had petrol
engines referred to as oil engines. It seems that any > petroleum
product fitted the bill.> > Had a look at your above article. One think
I am curious about is the > inclusion of the Australian Jelbart in your
photos. I say this because > it was a spark ignition engine and the
others, with the exception of > the Blackstone, are all lamp start.> >
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